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BlackpillHaplogroup L2a1b - the slav height genetic that makes them the tallest in the world
[ "Here is a picture of Crotica soldiers and Italian soldiers. Slavcels vs pizzacels.Blackops2cel came from there btwHaplogroup I (M170) is a Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup. It is a subgroup of haplogroup IJ, which itself is a derivative of the haplogroup IJK.I-M170 is one of the most numerous haplogroups among European males.[1] Subclades can be found in most present-day European populations, with peaks in some Northern European and South East European countries. Consequently, I-M170 represents up to one-fifth of the male population of Europe, being the continent's second major Y-DNA haplogroup (behind Haplogroup R).The haplogroup reaches its maximum frequency in the Balkans (with the highest concentration in present-day Herzegovina). It may be associated with unusually tall males, since those in the Dinaric Alps have been reported to be the tallest in the world, with an average male height of the range 180 cm (5 ft 11 in)-182 cm (6 ft 0 in) in the cantons of Bosnia, 184 cm (6 ft 0 in) in Sarajevo, 182 cm (6 ft 0 in)-186 cm (6 ft 1 in) in the cantons of Herzegovina.[2]Haplogroup I appears to have arisen in Europe, so far being found in Palaeolithic sites throughout Europe (Fu 2016), but not outside it. It diverged from common ancestor IJ* about 43,000 years B.P. (Karafet 2008). Early evidence for haplogroup J has been found in the Caucasus and Iran (Jones 2015, Fu 2016)In addition, living examples of the precursor Haplogroup IJ* have been found only in Iran, among the Mazandarani and ethnic Persians from Fars.[3] This may indicate that IJ originated in South West Asia.Haplogroup I: Reason Why Southern Slavs Are Taller Than West and East Slavs?To clear you up a bit on your genetic background and how you came to beby Boris V. 48.1k Views 3.4k Votes 5.5kSHARESFacebookTwitterShare Heplogroup I / Photo: Eupedia.comHuman height is know to be a result of multiple factors, be it from the genes that we inherit, to the food we eat and even what kind of environment we live in. But it was no joke when your ‘Baba’ used to tell you to drink that milk and eat enough so you could grow big. There is some truth in your Baba’s words, but some things are out of your power to influence them because you inherited them. We like to call them ‘genes’, but in this case even more precise it is Haplogroup I2.A haplotype is a group of genes in an organism that are inherited together from a single parent,[1][2] and a haplogroup (haploid from the Greek: ἁπλούς, haploûs, “onefold, simple” and English: group) is a group of similar haplotypes that share a common ancestor with a single-nucleotide polymorphism mutation.[3][4] More specifically, a haplogroup is a combination of alleles at different chromosomes regions that are closely linked and that tend to be inherited together. As a haplogroup consists of similar haplotypes, it is usually possible to predict a haplogroup from haplotypes. Haplogroups pertain to a single line of descent, usually dating back thousands of years.[5]As such, membership of a haplogroup, by any individual, relies on a relatively small proportion of the genetic material possessed by that individual. ~ states Wikipedia articleHaplogroup R1a subclade – “Slavic genes” distribution across Europe:Haplogroup R1a / Photo: EUpedia.comAmong Slavs two type of Haplogroups are predominant, the Haplogroup R1a which is also dubbed as “Slavic haplogroup” or the genetic code of the Indo-European Slavic (also Sarmatian Indo-Iranian) tribes that brought us the Slavic languages, culture and our present day heritage while Scytho-Sarmatian (indo-Iranian) R1a subclade of tribes who ruled the Slavs for one period brought us the tribal names like Croats/Serbs and their military horse-riding skills. In Poland as a effect of Sarmat rule over Slavs a medieval movement “Sarmatism” was born believing the Slavic aristocracy or their “tribal leaders” have Sarmatian (Iranian) ancestry.Haplogroup I “native European” genes across EuropeHaplogroup I / Photo: EUpedia.comMain strain of Haplogroup I (parent of our I2 subclade) can also be found in northern Europe among present day Germanic people which is also a strain of earlier European settlers which were merged into the incoming Indo-European Germanic tribes that carried the R1b haplogroup.On the southern (Slavic) side stands Haplogroup I2 subclade which are the genes of the European ‘native’ people that were already present in Europe, usually dubbed as “Illyrian haplogroup” but later merged into incoming Slavic R1a tribes (Croats, Serbs and other minor Slavic tribes).Parent R1 haplogroup (R1a and R1b) – the Indo European settlers (before dubbed as Indo-Aryans)R1 haplogroup / Photo: EUpedia.comIt is evident the R1a (Balto-Slavic) and R1b (Celto-Germanic) tribes were culturally and military much more dominant and they successfully have spread their influence across Europe while the older European natives, members of Haplogroup I were left only to merge into the incoming dominant cultures of Indo-European settlers.Average height of European Nations:Netherlands – 1.838mMontenegro – 1.832mDenmark – 1.826mNorway – 1.824mSerbia – 1.82mGermany – 1.81mCroatia – 1.805mCzech Republic – 1.8031mSlovenia – 1.803mLuxembourg – 1.799mInfo sourceHowever members of Haplogroup I did leave one thing for us all today to inherit, it is their partial genes. Today some think that exactly these genes are the ones that are most to be thanked for the average height of some Slavic nations (Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Slovenia) and Germanic nations (Netherlands, German, Norway. Sweden, Austria).The haplogroup reaches its maximum frequency in the Balkans (with the highest concentration in present-day Herzegovina). It may be associated with unusually tall males, since those in the Dinaric Alps have been reported to be the tallest in the world ~ sourceAverage amount of Haplogroup I:Bosnia and Herzegovina: I haplogroups is 55%Montenegro: I haplogroups is 37%Serbia: I haplogroups is 42.5%Netherlands: I haplogroups is 24%Sweden: I haplogroups is 42%Lithuania: I haplogroups is 13%Austria: I haplogroups is 21.5%Finland: I haplogroups is 28.5%Croatia: I haplogroups is 43.5%Denmark: I haplogroups is 39.5%Slovenia: I haplogroups is 31%Czechia: I haplogroups is 19%Norway: I haplogroups is 36%Info sourceScandinavians and Southern Slavs were always considered taller than average since the men are on record as being the tallest in the world, with a male average height of 185.6 cm (6 ft 1.1 in). All of them are in European mainland and are a mixture of Indo-European R1 and native-European I haplogroup genetic pools.", "I never really got thew animosity between Germans and Slavs, most Slavs look pretty Aryan to me.", "Mainländer said:I never really got thew animosity between Germans and Slavs, most Slavs look pretty Aryan to me.Slavs have that unique look that is kinda hard to describe. That seems common in Russia but not in western Europe.", "AsiaCel said:Haplogroup I “native European” genes across EuropeAfrica really does begin at the Alps.AsiaCel said:Slavs have that unique look that is kinda hard to describe. That seems common in Russia but not in western Europe.fetal alcohol syndrome", "Tbh slavs are still offwhite tho cuz some look like mongolmixedexp. I knew a russian who looked like Ginger Jackie Chan(red hair, chinese like eyes, face somewhat similar to Jackie Chan, blue eyes)I also knew a serb foid who I thought was an albino curry at first(blonde hair blue eyes), and then iranian", "BigGhey said:Tbh slavs are still offwhite tho cuz some look like mongolmixedexp. I knew a russian who looked like Ginger Jackie Chan(red hair, chinese like eyes, face somewhat similar to Jackie Chan, blue eyes)I also knew a serb foid who I thought was an albino curry at first(blonde hair blue eyes), and then iranianWouldn’t albino curries just look white? I searched up albino Indians on google images", "angrycurrycel said:Wouldn’t albino curries just look white? I searched up albino Indians on google imagesno, this is a meme perpertrated by black supremacistssome may look white, majority still have curry features, may pass as slavs, but just a little", "BigGhey said:no, this is a meme perpertrated by black supremacistssome may look white, majority still have curry features, may pass as slavs, but just a littleBlack supremacists ?", "BigGhey said:no, this is a meme perpertrated by black supremacistssome may look white, majority still have curry features, may pass as slavs, but just a little", "Southern Europeans are genetic shit. Were basically ethnic whites.", "I thought the Dutch were the tallest", "Bad haplogroup, short men are superior, just femoids primitives", "Pizzacel soldiers look like toys.", "GeneticFilth said:Southern Europeans are genetic shit. Were basically ethnic whites.Lol at you Anglo cuckRollD20 said:Pizzacel soldiers look like toys.Sad. They are probably all southerners or sardinians tho where the average height is like 1.73 (Sardinia)", "How can I inject this haplogroup shit into me to grow", "ROFLThat photo is a fake made by some Yugoslav retard. There are various versions of it on the internet.If you backresearch it on Google, all links lead to south Slavic forums/chats.", "Odd though, when I was in Rome the police and soldiers on the streets were all like 5'10 +I did see a man on the street who was like 4'7 though. He wasn't a midget either.Lol it's fake actually. It did look a bit off. They aren't that small lmfao.", "Cybersex is our hope said:Lol at you Anglo cuckSad. They are probably all southerners or sardinians tho where the average height is like 1.73 (Sardinia)Cope, everyone is cucked except for the middle easterners.", "GeneticFilth said:the middle easterners.cope, they're cucked too", "SoyUnPerdedor said:cope, they're cucked tooHow? They even have arranged marriages.", "Keep in mind actual tallfags are generally concentrated in southern Croatia, northern Montenegro and Herzegovina. These areas have the highest l2 percentage. I was born in an area where 187.6cm (6'2) is the average height and let me tell you, I'm an absolute manlet at 182cm (just under 6'0.)190cm or 6'3 is a very common height, every other guy is over 6'3. I see 6'7+ guys every single day, 7'0 guys are quite common. I rarely see people below 5'11, I don't even remember the last time I saw a guy under 180cm or 5'11. Just about every young man is 6'1 - 6'5.", "Haplogroups are not determine one's race.Tallness in balkan regions is due to dinarid phenotype,they are predominant phenotype in balkan region. So eastern slavs are NOT tall.", "anon said:Keep in mind actual tallfags are generally concentrated in southern Croatia, northern Montenegro and Herzegovina. These areas have the highest l2 percentage. I was born in an area where 187.6cm (6'2) is the average height and let me tell you, I'm an absolute manlet at 182cm (just under 6'0.)190cm or 6'3 is a very common height, every other guy is over 6'3. I see 6'7+ guys every single day, 7'0 guys are quite common. I rarely see people below 5'11, I don't even remember the last time I saw a guy under 180cm or 5'11. Just about every young man is 6'1 - 6'5.I'm 1.84 and sometimes I feel heigtmogged big time by a lot of guys. I'm in the tallest area of Italy. Total suifuel", "GeneticFilth said:Southern Europeans are genetic shit. Were basically ethnic whites.massive cope. foids love the med phenotype.", "JFL at not having haplogroup L2A1B as a man in 2019", "angrycurrycel said:massive cope. foids love the med phenotype.How? Were the shortest and the darkest among whites.", "GeneticFilth said:How? Were the shortest and the darkest among whites.Yes among whites. You still mog ethnics", "GeneticFilth said:How? They even have arranged marriages.arranged marriages aren't even that common in the midddle east (iraq is the exception), you're thinking of pakis", "AsiaCel said:Here is a picture of Crotica soldiers and Italian soldiers.Slavcels vs pizzacels.Blackops2cel came from there btw 112443Haplogroup I (M170) is a Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup. It is a subgroup of haplogroup IJ, which itself is a derivative of the haplogroup IJK.I-M170 is one of the most numerous haplogroups among European males.[1] Subclades can be found in most present-day European populations, with peaks in some Northern European and South East European countries. Consequently, I-M170 represents up to one-fifth of the male population of Europe, being the continent's second major Y-DNA haplogroup (behind Haplogroup R).The haplogroup reaches its maximum frequency in the Balkans (with the highest concentration in present-day Herzegovina). It may be associated with unusually tall males, since those in the Dinaric Alps have been reported to be the tallest in the world, with an average male height of the range 180 cm (5 ft 11 in)-182 cm (6 ft 0 in) in the cantons of Bosnia, 184 cm (6 ft 0 in) in Sarajevo, 182 cm (6 ft 0 in)-186 cm (6 ft 1 in) in the cantons of Herzegovina.[2]Haplogroup I appears to have arisen in Europe, so far being found in Palaeolithic sites throughout Europe (Fu 2016), but not outside it. It diverged from common ancestor IJ* about 43,000 years B.P. (Karafet 2008). Early evidence for haplogroup J has been found in the Caucasus and Iran (Jones 2015, Fu 2016)In addition, living examples of the precursor Haplogroup IJ* have been found only in Iran, among the Mazandarani and ethnic Persians from Fars.[3] This may indicate that IJ originated in South West Asia.Haplogroup I: Reason Why Southern Slavs Are Taller Than West and East Slavs?To clear you up a bit on your genetic background and how you came to beby Boris V. 48.1k Views 3.4k Votes5.5kSHARESFacebookTwitterShare Heplogroup I / Photo: Eupedia.comHuman height is know to be a result of multiple factors, be it from the genes that we inherit, to the food we eat and even what kind of environment we live in. But it was no joke when your ‘Baba’ used to tell you to drink that milk and eat enough so you could grow big. There is some truth in your Baba’s words, but some things are out of your power to influence them because you inherited them. We like to call them ‘genes’, but in this case even more precise it is Haplogroup I2.Haplogroup R1a subclade – “Slavic genes” distribution across Europe:Haplogroup R1a / Photo: EUpedia.comAmong Slavs two type of Haplogroups are predominant, the Haplogroup R1a which is also dubbed as “Slavic haplogroup” or the genetic code of the Indo-European Slavic (also Sarmatian Indo-Iranian) tribes that brought us the Slavic languages, culture and our present day heritage while Scytho-Sarmatian (indo-Iranian) R1a subclade of tribes who ruled the Slavs for one period brought us the tribal names like Croats/Serbs and their military horse-riding skills. In Poland as a effect of Sarmat rule over Slavs a medieval movement “Sarmatism” was born believing the Slavic aristocracy or their “tribal leaders” have Sarmatian (Iranian) ancestry.Haplogroup I “native European” genes across EuropeHaplogroup I / Photo: EUpedia.comMain strain of Haplogroup I (parent of our I2 subclade) can also be found in northern Europe among present day Germanic people which is also a strain of earlier European settlers which were merged into the incoming Indo-European Germanic tribes that carried the R1b haplogroup.On the southern (Slavic) side stands Haplogroup I2 subclade which are the genes of the European ‘native’ people that were already present in Europe, usually dubbed as “Illyrian haplogroup” but later merged into incoming Slavic R1a tribes (Croats, Serbs and other minor Slavic tribes).Parent R1 haplogroup (R1a and R1b) – the Indo European settlers (before dubbed as Indo-Aryans)R1 haplogroup / Photo: EUpedia.comIt is evident the R1a (Balto-Slavic) and R1b (Celto-Germanic) tribes were culturally and military much more dominant and they successfully have spread their influence across Europe while the older European natives, members of Haplogroup I were left only to merge into the incoming dominant cultures of Indo-European settlers.Average height of European Nations:Netherlands – 1.838mMontenegro – 1.832mDenmark – 1.826mNorway – 1.824mSerbia – 1.82mGermany – 1.81mCroatia – 1.805mCzech Republic – 1.8031mSlovenia – 1.803mLuxembourg – 1.799mInfo sourceHowever members of Haplogroup I did leave one thing for us all today to inherit, it is their partial genes. Today some think that exactly these genes are the ones that are most to be thanked for the average height of some Slavic nations (Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Slovenia) and Germanic nations (Netherlands, German, Norway. Sweden, Austria).Average amount of Haplogroup I:Bosnia and Herzegovina: I haplogroups is 55%Montenegro: I haplogroups is 37%Serbia: I haplogroups is 42.5%Netherlands: I haplogroups is 24%Sweden: I haplogroups is 42%Lithuania: I haplogroups is 13%Austria: I haplogroups is 21.5%Finland: I haplogroups is 28.5%Croatia: I haplogroups is 43.5%Denmark: I haplogroups is 39.5%Slovenia: I haplogroups is 31%Czechia: I haplogroups is 19%Norway: I haplogroups is 36%Info sourceScandinavians and Southern Slavs were always considered taller than average since the men are on record as being the tallest in the world, with a male average height of 185.6 cm (6 ft 1.1 in). All of them are in European mainland and are a mixture of Indo-European R1 and native-European I haplogroup genetic pools.Nelitos are taller, with the average male being 6’4”.", "Dutch people are taller.", "RREEEEEEEEE said:Dutch people are taller.Dutch are 6’ avg, croats are like 6’1 range", "Napoleon de Geso said:Bad haplogroup, short men are superior, just femoids primitivesThat is actually true. They live longer+require+less food+need less space for items and clothing+agile+bones more sturdy.But this doesn't matter to a foid. Height is status and commanding, and this stimulates their primitive mating senses.", "Draestyn said:Dutch are 6’ avg, croats are like 6’1 rangeThere are also many more Dutch people compared to Croatians. If they had a similar population size, then that would go lower as well. Keeping that in mind, the Dutch are still no. 1 as far as that is concerned.", "Slav snow bunnies" ]
Based Currycels
[ " Some strong enERgy in this one curry", "he mogs me", "I see he's pulling off Michael Corleone.", "angrycurrycel said:he mogs meHe mogs every curry along with everyone here.", "seija said:He mogs every curry along with everyone here.High and stable T levels on this one. Nigga dont flinch when that murder case come knocking on the door", "Forgive me, proudweeb. This thread is only four years old.And, It's time for us to see it again." ]
LifeFuelYearly SEA Trip
[ "There should be yearly SEA trip where we go to SEA together.", "I think you should get on tinder and see how hard it actually is to get a girl to agree to meet you for potential sex before any incel goes to SEA.", "by we you mean whitecels.", "But how is possible to find waifu of culture, not just thots?", "angrycurrycel said:by we you mean whitecels.You welcome too. We could trick those hoes if they dont like ethnicels.", "Incline said:You welcome too. We could trick those hoes if they dont like ethnicels.might just michaeljacksonmaxx if i wanna tag along", "Oh boy, getting fawned for by a bunch of gold diggers and prostitutes.", "We'll start a GoFundMe.", "Michael15651 said:We'll start a GoFundMe.Good idea lmao", "Incels should travel in packs to scare everyone off", "Dionysus said:Incels should travel in packs to scare everyone off", "Michael15651 said:We'll start a GoFundMe.We'll hire some guy on fiverr to do a speech in front of the camere for us so we don't doxx ourselves, we gonna pitymaxx montage a video where a group of virgins (bluepilled, can not have any blackpills or normies won't pay us) just trynna get laid. The fiverr chad we will hire will have to be some unknown guy so nobody will recognize him and he will LARP as our friend and our voice who is trynna get us laid. Enjoy free holiday.", "not everyone on this forum is white and the plane tickets would cost way too much", "Lifefuel. I'm already in SEA", "Going to Thailand in August for 3 months", "BlackpilledTruecel said:Going to Thailand in August for 3 monthsReport your experience, I demand it.", "Suicidefuel I already live in Thailand", "Incline said:Report your experience, I demand it.Ascending via moving is labelled as bragging, I'd be banned like itsoverWettinghose said:Suicidefuel I already live in ThailandHow do you live there if you're from EU? Dual citizen?", "BlackpilledTruecel said:Ascending via moving is labelled as bragging, I'd be banned like itsoverHow do you live there if you're from EU? Dual citizen?I don't consider this ascending at all. How is this any different than hiring an escort or a prostitute? You simply pay them with your race instead of your credit card but I would never marry a noodlewhore who is with me only for my race that would be like the ultimate failure of my life. I rather die a virgin than do something like that.", "Incline said:I don't consider this ascending at all. How is this any different than hiring an escort or a prostitute? You simply pay them with your race instead of your credit card but I would never marry a noodlewhore who is with me only for my race that would be like the ultimate failure of my life. I rather die a virgin than do something like that.Illogical. All women choose men by looks.", "BlackpilledTruecel said:Illogical. All women choose men by looks.Race is looks in SEA.", "Incline said:Race is looks in SEA.yes, and getting females by your looks isnt escortcelling...........", "heading over there asap, planning to use my status there to get a comfy job and live the rest of my life happy away from shit western society.", "BlackpilledTruecel said:yes, and getting females by your looks isnt escortcelling...........You can keep lying to yourself and think you ascended when some noodlewhores just because they consider your race-looks as a social boost. True ascension is when you meet a women in your life who you like and she likes you back for who you are and your looks don't get in the way.", "I'm planning on going in November. All the footage on yt makes the whole place look like a shit hole though tbh and the nice places are apparantly just for couples and too quiet. I want to find a real girl who isn't a hooker.Wettinghose said:Suicidefuel I already live in ThailandWhere should I go that isn't a shit hole to find a real girl?", "What use of being white, if local indonesian metalhead mogs me at looking cool :<", "Michael15651 said:We'll start a GoFundMe.", "Incline said:You can keep lying to yourself and think you ascended when some noodlewhores just because they consider your race-looks as a social boost. True ascension is when you meet a women in your life who you like and she likes you back for who you are and your looks don't get in the way.You're just a lazy, coping volcel that doesnt take action.", "BlackpilledTruecel said:You're just a lazy, coping volcel that doesnt take action.What u mean.Sex to me is not ascending unless I do it with a partner of my choosing. If I need to fuck off to SEA in order to get somebody on my tiny cock then that's just humiliating. Besides sex to me is the least of my worries when it comes to Blackpill. I don't even mind it that much (sure it's fucking annoying being deprived of it). I don't judge others for going there and doing what they gotta do, I want to go there myself. But I would never call it ascending. If you feel otherwise, you are entitled to your own opinion and I respect it. If you feel you ascended then I'm genuinely happy for you.", "Incline said:What u mean.Sex to me is not ascending unless I do it with a partner of my choosing. If I need to fuck off to SEA in order to get somebody on my tiny cock then that's just humiliating. Besides sex to me is the least of my worries when it comes to Blackpill. I don't even mind it that much (sure it's fucking annoying being deprived of it). I don't judge others for going there and doing what they gotta do, I want to go there myself. But I would never call it ascending. If you feel otherwise, you are entitled to your own opinion and I respect it. If you feel you ascended then I'm genuinely happy for you.Lol.", "Jfl almost everyone in this thread is bannedbrutal SEAmaxxpilleverybody ascended and everybody SEAmaxxed except for meI cant SEAmaxxx I cant CREAMPIEITS OVERI WAS BORN AND ITS OVER LIKE HAMUDI SAIDSTUCK IN GENETIC PRISONIS IT EVEN WORTH MY TIME JFL I am too tired I cant continueits over", "Incline said:Jfl almost everyone in this thread is bannedbrutal SEAmaxxpilleverybody ascended and everybody SEAmaxxed except for meI cant SEAmaxxx I cant CREAMPIEITS OVERI WAS BORN AND ITS OVER LIKE HAMUDI SAIDSTUCK IN GENETIC PRISONIS IT EVEN WORTH MY TIME JFL I am too tired I cant continueits overAre you having a mental breakdown?", "Incline said:Jfl almost everyone in this thread is bannedbrutal SEAmaxxpilleverybody ascended and everybody SEAmaxxed except for meI cant SEAmaxxx I cant CREAMPIEITS OVERI WAS BORN AND ITS OVER LIKE HAMUDI SAIDSTUCK IN GENETIC PRISONIS IT EVEN WORTH MY TIME JFL I am too tired I cant continueits overur just a volcel for not getting an Asian gf, if she likes u for your race that same as she likes u for ur looks", "Twinkcel said:Are you having a mental breakdown?yesmanletogre said:ur just a volcel for not getting an Asian gf, if she likes u for your race that same as she likes u for ur looksnigga im barely even white its not so easy as to say go to some asian country jfl I dont have money and when I get there what am I gonna do I dont even know the language. My plan 3 years ago was to spend the 3 years learning a language then move there but I done NOTHING last 3 years i am still as far away from seamaxxing as I was 3 years ago its brutal... I dont have the strength anymore like imagine getting stabbed every day and then you need to keep going I cant keep going SEAmaxx was my only last cope on this earth... Its over", "Incline said:yesnigga im barely even whiteits not so easy as to say go to some asian country jfl I dont have money and when I get there what am I gonna do I dont even know the language. My plan 3 years ago was to spend the 3 years learning a language then move there but I done NOTHING last 3 yearsi am still as far away from seamaxxing as I was 3 years ago its brutal... I dont have the strength anymore like imagine getting stabbed every day and then you need to keep going I cant keep goingSEAmaxx was my only last cope on this earth... Its overDo you really think that every guy who went JBW learned the local language?Speaking english would be enough imoBut for the money problems, it's over ", "LeFrenchCel said:Do you really think that every guy who went JBW learned the local language?Speaking english would be enough imoBut for the money problems, it's over Im going to try to get an English teaching qualifications or something idk" ]
BasedDeathnik defends tradition while white soys are bragging
[ "This white guy filip is with a negro foid as you can see on his profile,just JFL he is fucking fat but still can get pussy, anyway just look at this two cultures and minds sets. Yes goyim babies are not awesome, well you better not make babies with negroid foid kids will be mulattocels", "This is not about race, it is the opinion of two individuals.", "saying that you must fuck only with the purpose of having children it's a bit excessive.as long as someone is married or in a ltr, he should have sex everytime he wants.(with the partner ofc)that's the way to avoid promiscuity and degeneracy", "TheReaper said:saying that you must fuck only with the purpose of having children it's a bit excessive.He is right though. It has to be raw and it has to hurt and it needs to bleed.", "The western people are the most brainwashed of all tbh, because the (((media))) have more influence and power in the west.", "LastGerman said:It has to be raw and it has to hurt and it needs to bleed.yes bro. like spitting blood at the gym.", "The fact that this obese possible-kike is not having children with his shitskin dwarf gf is a good thing, a mix like that would just create another incel. But you're right that this anti-child sentiment among people has spread a lot in the west. I used to think like that as well and thought to myself I'd never have children if I ever ended up ascending because children are annoying but honestly, the only reason why children are viewed upon as burdens in modern western society is because living in the west is expensive as fuck, even if you're just on your own. So the problem is not that children are annoying (they can be but not if you raise them right so they don't turn into little shits), the problem is that housing and education is overpriced as fuck which demovatives couples to create families. Of course this is done on purpose so whites don't have children while non-whites, who are generally too low-IQ to even think about the possible financial consequences of their actions, shit out like 6 kids.TheReaper said:as long as someone is married or in a ltr, he should have sex everytime he wants.(with the partner ofc)I agree with this sentiment. But on a societal scale, that kind of mindset can have negative consequences.", "Based molotovcel.", "TheReaper said:yes bro. like spitting blood at the gym.That is indeed arousing to me. Imagine the pain... Every muscle is pumped up to its absolute limits. This is truly a climax. We have to cum inside of the gym, we also have to cum inside of our favourite females.", "JFL at Mr. Soy Based ethnic", "Cuyen said: 113428 113429This white guy filip is with a negro foid as you can see on his profile,just JFL he is fucking fat but still can get pussy, anyway just look at this two cultures and minds sets.Yes goyim babies are not awesome, well you better not make babies with negroid foid kids will be mulattocelshe's pretty based in these posts but probably just slays random women in real life.", "Always gotta ruin everything.", "LastGerman said:That is indeed arousing to me. Imagine the pain... Every muscle is pumped up to its absolute limits. This is truly a climax. We have to cum inside of the gym, we also have to cum inside of our favourite females.", "LastGerman said:That is indeed arousing to me. Imagine the pain... Every muscle is pumped up to its absolute limits. This is truly a climax. We have to cum inside of the gym, we also have to cum inside of our favourite females.", "Deathnic This was global tradition until the last century." ]
Blackpillclownworld forced meme?
[ "[Blackpill] Not only is clown world a forced meme it's kinda soy tooThread starterIceCutterStart date12 minutes agoTagsNoneWatchIceCutterMasterJoinedAug 18, 2018Messages1,54212 minutes agoAdd bookmark#1Whenever I see guys posting about clown world or honk honk I do so with this image of themForced memes are cope and should be nipped in the bud and short lived", "Girls und Panzer der Clown", "Clown world and honkpill are legit srs", "Napoleon de Geso said:me leik yukari", "Icecutter aka nekostance aka inceldoBlacktarpill said:Icecutter aka nekostance aka inceldoNGL im not a big fan of the honkpill", "Forced meme and likely a psyop, I cringe anytime I see this honk honk shit", "Normies were triggered by it.", "Honk honk", "It’s not a forced meme if we live in a clown world.", "Sans said:It’s not a forced meme if we live in a clown world.", "Clown world is just laughing at the absurdity of modern society", "BlkPillPres said:Forced meme and likely a psyop, I cringe anytime I see this honk honk shit to expand...Have to agree tbh. It's an unfunny forced meme and bears no interesting commentary on any issue whatsoever. It's philosophy undergrad cringe.", "It's a representation of what we've come to.", "MarriedAndLookin4Fun said:Clown world and honkpill are legit srs", "Sans said:It’s not a forced meme if we live in a clown world.", "it is over", "It's pretty forced, but also true.", "Blacktarpill said:NGL im not a big fan of the honkpillwelcome to the clown world", "Weeb25 said:welcome to the clown worldweeb show fac3, cum to podcast.", "Blacktarpill said:weeb show fac3, cum to podcast.", "it is over", "BlkPillPres said:Forced meme and likely a psyop, I cringe anytime I see this honk honk shit to expand...Same", "Blacktarpill said:aka inceldoI miss my nigga", "BlkPillPres said:Forced meme", "That meme was created to make something ridiculous offensive and it worked.", "I also don't like this meme tbh.But when it makes some fellow incels happy or it helps them with coping, i am fine with it.", "MarriedAndLookin4Fun said:Clown world and honkpill are legit srs", "Forsed and purile attempt to reduce rightfull discontent with existence of people who see things as they are.", "Clown world seems like a way of dressing up the black pill as a way of saying Just laugh while the world burns to me.", "Napoleon de Geso said:Girls und Panzer der Clown 113545Why did I had to show you that anime?", "clown world to me is the opposite of forced meme very relevant", "ah", "Ritalincel said:ah", "Dregster said:Comical." ]
TeeHeeAlexandria Ocasio-Cortez Low Key Attacking Incels
[ "We all know there's some anti incel dogwhistling in this.There are people on this website who would vote for her too, JFL.Here's the link to the tweet if you want to respond", "She has nice big tits.", "Incel who would vote for her = Volcel soyboy", "Her looksmatch is beheaded by the cartels in mexico", "She means disempowerment in the sense of not being able to join Chad's harem.", "she looks like a horse", "Cuyen said:Her looksmatch is beheaded by the cartels in mexico", "Cucked America at it again, I hope a civilwar will break out in America.", "Cuyen said:Her looksmatch is beheaded by the cartels in mexico", "Cuyen said:Her looksmatch is beheaded by the cartels in mexicoHer looksmatch can be found on bestgore getting flayed while he is still alive.", "She publicized and later appeared on a video game live stream to help raise money for Mermaids, a charity for trans children.[/quote]I hope you'd get rid of them one day.", "Women have been disempowered naturally due to biology. The empowerment they are experiencing now is artificial - it has been gifted to them by men, and what is given can be taken away again.", "mental_out said:Tactical wording on her part to make her opposition seem more irrational, to word it properly it's actually due to female greed and the west putting women on a pedestal. The reason that economics creates celibacy in men is because women just use men as vehicles for them to gain supplies and money. When men can't be used as ATMs more end up celibate as women instead just gravitate to the most attractive men who usually have it all.thespanishcel said:Incel who would vote for her = Volcel soyboy", "She's a living freak.", "If they want females to be perfectly free and not bound by any social norms then sure by all means go for it, but then it's only fair if men are allowed to operate under the same freedom of his nature which means that sex will be claimed brutally by force instead of the civilized manners like marriages that they hate so much.", "Her father must have dis-empowered and silenced his wife to reproduce. If women were empowered and outspoken before Ocasio was born, she likely would never exist.", "For her personaly I am volcel and standardcel. What an ugly creature", "Cuyen said:Her looksmatch is beheaded by the cartels in mexico", "Well factually correct.It's more patriarchycel targeted tbh.", "Yes, people did rely on it dumb cunt. People rely on a lot of institutions and standards in order to live a happy, healthy life.", "thespanishcel said:Incel who would vote for her = Volcel soyboy*Incel who would vote for any foid = Volcel soyboy", "Holy fucking shitDaily reminder a 3.5/10 hambeast can have so many sex partners she can't even keep track", "mental_out said:Tactical wording on her part to make her opposition seem more irrational, to word it properly it's actually due to female greed and the west putting women on a pedestal. The reason that economics creates celibacy in men is because women just use men as vehicles for them to gain supplies and money. When men can't be used as ATMs more end up celibate as women instead just gravitate to the most attractive men who usually have it all.Phone Number IQ. Notice how when people talk about male problems like celibacy,they instantly get slandered as rapists, pedophiles, etc. They are always strawmanned. Notice how the moment you try to talk about trends in femoid behavior you are automatically a neckbeard, a misogynist, an incel yadda yadda buzzword. Nobody can even try and address common femoid immoralities out of fear of instantly being labeled as a insert useless buzzword. Cuyen said:Her looksmatch is beheaded by the cartels in mexico", "Cuyen said:Her looksmatch is beheaded by the cartels in mexicoshe's giving head on Tinderher lookmatcts losing head on BestGore", "BrendioEEE said:There are people on this website who would vote for her too, JFL.This. I’ll never understand incels who support the political left. They’re like jews who supported the Nazis.", "Macrocephalus said: 113619 113620Holy fucking shitDaily reminder a 3.5/10 hambeast can have so many sex partners she can't even keep trackWhat a disgusting creature.", "mental_out said:He is training for their special night", "Angry_runt said:Women have been disempowered naturally due to biology. The empowerment they are experiencing now is artificial - it has been gifted to them by men, and what is given can be taken away again.High IQ", "Macrocephalus said: 113619 113620Holy fucking shitDaily reminder a 3.5/10 hambeast can have so many sex partners she can't even keep tracksuicide fuel, her looksmatch is posting here", "I ironically support the ultra-progressive wing of politics for their shortsighted policies causing a Right-Wing reactionary effect.", "Cortacoz continues to spew nonsense and fill quotas to get/keep her job. You could play the piano with her teeth.", "I wish there was some serial killer who would go around killing these empowered sluts..", "These Millennial girls just don't give me a hard-on. It's ironic, because they're the most stuck up bitches of any generation, yet they're the least sexy.", "Considering what spawned her, her line would have ended eons ago.", "mental_out said:her BF is a soy as well no surprise 113615 113616of course she's dating a white dude.", "mental_out said:her BF is a soy as well no surprise 113615 113616andSpoilerwhite", "PotatoTomato said:she looks like a horseHer looksmatch is being executed by the cartel rn", "What aoc said was actually correct. The overwhelming majority of males are unattractive to females, and rely on being human ATMs in order to get relationships.Females know damn well that you have to be Chad in order to have a real relationship with a female.", "id vote for her", "She's cute. I wish she would be my gf. TFW no AOC gf ", "Her fingers are full of fat", "so many soyboys in her comments on twitter lol", "LiterallyASoyboy said:She means disempowerment in the sense of not being able to join Chad's harem.Exactly", "I hate this fucking whore. Virtue signaling whore and yet still dating a white soyboy", "LOL @ her throwing us under the bus and dating a white guyI wonder how shell spin this, tall white guys arent having any celibacy problems, her own racematches do", "I hate that leftist whore", "Enough said.", "JeffGoldblumInTheFly said:He is training for their special night", "LittleBoy said:Enough said.Reading that pissed me off. Because it's true.", "Everytime I see AOCs stupid ass opinions I get enraged because there is a high chance that her or someone like her is going to be president within the next decade. Then we will truly be fucked", "this is hell said:Reading that pissed me off. Because it's true.83 likes = winning. The fire burns.", "JeffGoldblumInTheFly said:mental_out said:He is training for their special night", "Arthas93 said:Economic crisis will get America far sooner than any civil war. Every day the Sovereign National Debt grows. A bubble waiting to explode. The Fed can't print money forever. If it does, inflation will destroy the dollar. One day one orange is 1$, the next it is 10$ and the next it is 100$. Until it becomes like Venezuela. Where you need 100 million bolivars to buy a single grape.That is the price of socialism. And socialism could only by achieved by giving the right to vote for females.The STD's are doing that just fine. Nature is wise. Soon those foids will get super gonorrhea and start dying off like flies.High IQ. This is how it's going to end. Inflation will eat almost everyone who doesn't have a lot of diverse investments, and even then it will eat a lot of those investments.", "Angry_runt said:Women have been disempowered naturally due to biology. The empowerment they are experiencing now is artificial - it has been gifted to them by men, and what is given can be taken away again.IQ high", "It's fully OVER", "Rofl. And AOC's bf is a white chadlite JFL. Ethnic foids are sad.", "Cuyen said:Her looksmatch is beheaded by the cartels in mexico ", "If you think your ‘celibacy’ is due to “female empowerment,” maybe it’s because far too many people relied on the disempowerment + silence of women to not be ‘celibate’ in the first place.Yeah sorry that I relied on society not throwing me under the bus because I'm ugly. But somehow they are still expecting us to contribute and pay taxes. Thank God I'm a neet.", "Cuyen said:Her looksmatch is beheaded by the cartels in mexico", "starcrapoo said:Rofl. And AOC's bf is a white chadlite JFL. Ethnic foids are sad.looks normie face", "mental_out said:Tactical wording on her part to make her opposition seem more irrational, to word it properly it's actually due to female greed and the west putting women on a pedestal. The reason that economics creates celibacy in men is because women just use men as vehicles for them to gain supplies and money. When men can't be used as ATMs more end up celibate as women instead just gravitate to the most attractive men who usually have it all.Based mod, that's exactly it ", "thats the problem for allowing women to become politicians.", "Society relies on people being disempowered to an extent to keep itself functioning. Civilisation takes away people's ability to kill, rape, steal so people can have safer and better lives. Just as society takes away the power for people to murder it took away the power of Chads and Foids to create harems so society could function properly. Nothing would work properly if we allowed people to just do whatever they felt like.", "Cuyen said:Her looksmatch is beheaded by the cartels in mexicoN-Digger said:Society relies on people being disempowered to an extent to keep itself functioning. Civilisation takes away people's ability to kill, rape, steal so people can have safer and better lives. Just as society takes away the power for people to murder it took away the power of Chads and Foids to create harems so society could function properly. Nothing would work properly if we allowed people to just do whatever they felt like.Good old: shut up non chad male, you aren't entitled to love or affection, Just work, pay taxes, watch shows and die.Kill ALL women please...", "Perish, cuck", "Cuyen said:Her looksmatch is beheaded by the cartels in mexico", "N-Digger said:Society relies on people being disempowered to an extent to keep itself functioning. Civilisation takes away people's ability to kill, rape, steal so people can have safer and better lives. Just as society takes away the power for people to murder it took away the power of Chads and Foids to create harems so society could function properly. Nothing would work properly if we allowed people to just do whatever they felt like.Exactly, but expect libertarians not to understand any of that, and look at you like you're Stalin for suggesting such things.And this post is proof enough of why AOC should be the enemy of every incel, and any incel that supports or votes for her is a fakecel soy. You're no different from the men who would allow themselves to be abused or dominated by foids, nor the soys who prop foids up on platforms like OnlyFans all the while the foid thinks nothing more of them than an ugly, leprosy-ridden ATM.", "bigantennaemay1 said:You're no different from the men who would allow themselves to be abused or dominated by foids, nor the soys who prop foids up on platforms like OnlyFansSpeak of the devil", "your personality said:Speak of the devil to expand...This is why nations fall when foids are given rights, and one of a thousand reasons the 19th amendment needs to be repealed.", "bigantennaemay1 said:one of a thousand reasons the 19th amendment needs to be repealed.", "thespanishcel said:Incel who would vote for her = Volcel soyboyfuck that horsefaced whore", "Bourbon said:fuck that horsefaced whoreI will", "Shannon is her loyal follower:", "It’s the fault of femoids that inceldom is still a thing.", "-BrettyBoy- said:It’s the fault of femoids that inceldom is still a thing.Just cure your autism and change your location bro" ]
BlackpillCommunism Is Inevitable, In Fact Its Preferable
[ "TBH I am only in favor of capitalism because I believe I can make it in this system and come out on topTo quote Ronald Wright - “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”Though I think it applies all over the world, not just america, everybody thinks they are going to make it, so they put up with the BS and cuckery, because - its only for now, I'll make my way to the topTo get to the point of this post now, here's why I say communism is INEVITABLE and PREFERABLEBeen watching Andrew Yang videos these days, and I didn't even know technology was progressing this quickly:Are Driverless Trucks Safe Enough to be the Next Big Thing in Logistics? - GlobalTranz Enterprises, LLC.Editor’s Note: Today’s blog is from our friend Justin Fox where he discusses the advancement of AI in driverless trucks and if it is safe enough for Logistics. The Internet […]cerasis.comThink about how many people are going to lose jobs, now understand that virtually every job at some point will be replaced by a robot or AISo, if the elites of society own the means of production, and they have no reason to hire anyone but a few specialized workers to maintain their robots and AI, where the fuck is everyone else going to get money to buy food, pay bills, etcThis is why I say communism is inevitable, Andrew Yang and his UBI (Universal Basic Income) plan is just a preview to the future, because if society and the way humans are valued in a society isn't adapted to the changes that are coming, most everyone is going to be jobless, worthless and poor.Without communism in such a world, society is literally going to fall apart (which would be kind of fun)The only reason people are against communism and for capitalism is because they exist in the current world, a world where they see a chance to work hard and build a better life for themselves, but at some point, the people who own the means to production won't even be offering jobs for you to work hard in, they'll have a cheap slave robot and/or AI that does the work for no pay, so why the fuck would they hire you, and they'll still be using various legal loopholes to pay virtually no taxes so society gets nothing out of their changes to the job market.Can anybody tell me how else such an issue could be managed other than communism, imagine a world where basically every job is being replaced by robotics and/or AI, please tell me if not communism, how every body who once would be working, will gain access to resources, when they can't get a job?", "Just starve to death theory.", "Counterpoint: Only women and children are going to get any of benefits of communism.Communism for incels = all their money and shit taken away but get nothing in return. Under pure capitalism, women get nothing from the government while incels keep their shit.Thinking the government is going to provide for incels is a pipe dream and will never happen.", "It's not real communism bro Stalin and Mao just did it wrong bro ", "Sadness said:Just starve to death theory.i'm starting to notice a trend with you, you literally don't read anything, you just read the title and reply, what is the point of using a forum like that, you should just set up some kind of bot to do posts for you or something, the end result with be the samemylifeistrash said:Counterpoint: Only women and children are going to get any of benefits of communism.Communism for incels = all their money and shit taken away but get nothing in return. Under pure capitalism, women get nothing from the government while incels keep their shit.Thinking the government is going to provide for incels is a pipe dream and will never happen.I don't even know how to address this, because you are aren't even making your arguments within the context of my post, in a world where basically nobody has a job, and all jobs are replaced by AI and/or robotics, you aren't going to have any fucking shit for the government to take, and if the government is taking from corporations to give to you, the same corporations that destroyed the job market by automating, you aren't going to care about the scraps that they government asks you for, because you'd be getting more relative to what was taken from you", "and if the government is taking from corporations to give to youincels won't get any benefits bro. zero. none. all of it will go to women. at least with capitalism you have the chance to make money", "Not just that, robots are a very lucrative option for industrialists, since they won't form any trade-unions and keep pestering with their businesses. You can use robots in risky and life-threatening positions without worrying about accidents and compensations. Not just only in private industries, robots are going to become a vital part in the army, war and shit.If you did not sign up for #YangGang yet, you are a complete moron. ", "mylifeistrash said:incels won't get any benefits bro. zero. none.all of it will go to women.at least with capitalism you have the chance to make moneyDude are you retarded or trolling me, there are incels on neetbux right now, in a communist society there is no box on a form to tick off stating incel and then you don't get shit, that's not how it works, I'm done arguing a fact of reality, there are many incels on this site that are on some kind of disability and receiving free money already (which is socialism).In a truly capitalist world, they wouldn't be getting anything, society is already partially communist, and as the economy and job market changes it will become more and more so", "BlkPillPres said:Dude are you retarded or trolling me, there are incels on neetbux right now, in a communist society there is no box on a form to tick off stating incel and then you don't get shit, that's not how it works, I'm done arguing a fact of reality, there are many incels on this site that are on some kind of disability and receiving free money already (which is socialism).In a truly capitalist world, they wouldn't be getting anything, society is already partially communist, and as the economy and job market changes it will become more and more sobro, disability in america (what you might call neetbux in the UK) is insanely hard to get and extremely rare.and even if you get it, it's based on your average wage for the past 10 years, which for an incel would put you around $800. no male is getting free money in america unless they were in the work force and got legit disabled.", "chudur-budur said:Not just that, robots are a very lucrative option for industrialists, since they won't form any trade-unions and keep pestering with their businesses. You can use robots in risky and life-threatening positions without worrying about accidents and compensations. Not just only in private industries, robots are going to become a vital part in the army, war and shit.If you did not sign up for #YangGang yet, you are a complete moron.Everytime I watch one of his videos I try to find something to disagree with him on, and then he goes into the stats and the data behind his plans, I look into it, and I'm thinking - shit he's right, it does pan outIn the coming decades, if you live in a developed nation, even having a job isn't an assured thing lol, capitalist greed may have reached its tipping point, when you try to push everyone out and maximize profit, you'll lose the support of everyone, and that's where corporations are heading, all the people sucking off capitalism today will be begging for communism tomorrow", "If everyone has the same. Looks will the only thing which matters in life.", "mylifeistrash said:no male is getting free money in america unless they were in the work force and got legit disabled.Shifting the goal post, proving that you are being disingenous, first it was - muh incels will never get anything, you will be discriminated againstNow its - well you have to meet X criteria firstYes idiot, and just existing as a citizen is the criteria for the UBI systemUgly_equals_Death said:If everyone has the same. Looks will the only thing which matters in life.You mean unlike right now, it pretty much already is all that matters, either way better than not being able to buy food", "Ugly_equals_Death said:If everyone has the same. Looks will the only thing which matters in life.You are not getting any pussy in either situation, so just get your motherfucking bag.", "Communism is cancer but it's preferable to the current system. Stalin outlawed homosexuality and promoted the nuclear family in propaganda, that sounds better than what the so-called conservatives of today offer us.", "chudur-budur said:You are not getting any pussy in either situation, so just get your motherfucking bag.Good point never thought about it that way", "BlkPillPres said:Shifting the goal post, proving that you are being disingenous, first is was - muh incels will never get anything, you will be discriminated againstNow its - well you have to meet X criteria firstYes idiot, and just existing as a citizen is the criteria for the UBI systemYou mean unlike right now, it pretty much already is all that matters, either way better than not being able to buy foodOkay, let me put it this way.In the USA, there are no social programs for men. Disability is all they can get it, and it's extremely hard to get. Neetbux is a UK thing.For women there's... near infinite social programs and all you need is a pulse to get them.Why would you think a communist gov would give men anything?", "self checkouts at stores are good examples of low end jobs getting automated.", "It's sad that the new left hates white men", "Frogcel said:It's sad that the new left hates white menthe foids still fuck you guys", "mylifeistrash said:Okay, let me put it this way.In the USA, there are no social programs for men. Disability is all they can get it, and it's extremely hard to get. Neetbux is a UK thing.For women there's... near infinite social programs and all you need is a pulse to get them.Why would you think a communist gov would give men anything?1. It feels like you are arguing against a strawman at this point, because its like you are asserting that I claimed men would be getting all these new social benefits like women do, I never claimed men would get benefits geared towards them, they'd just get the basic benefits in general, also the entire point of the thread is within the context of a society where you can't even get a job because AI and/or robots are fulfilling most job roles, you can't even argue within context, because you likely didn't even read the damn post.2. If you are going to reply to a thread, at least read the damn thread, I mentioned the UBI system Andrew Yang is trying to implement, please look into it before you say more stupid shit, it isn't gender restricted.", "communism ", "WE WILL RISE LIKE YODA (YODA)NOW I’M SCREAMING OUT “YOBA” (YOBA)NOW I HIT EM WITH THE YANG-GANG YANG GANG IS THE MOTIVEBOP-BOP ON THE SHOULDER,PLAYIN FORTNITE IM A NEETBUX SOLDIER", "I'm not surprised by the anti communist posts in this topic. When you advocate for communism, even if you have legit reasons to, people will react as if you're advocating pedophilia.As for the topic, no doubt that automation is taking over, at a much faster rate than predicted to boot. While I doubt he'll win, I'll still vote for Andrew Yang. He knows what's up.", "It's about throwing this system out.", "But communism was created by ((())) and capitalism too. So both ideologies suck. We need a third option.", "BlkPillPres said:TBH I am only in favor of capitalism because I believe I can make it in this system and come out on topTo quote Ronald Wright - “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”Though I think it applies all over the world, not just america, everybody thinks they are going to make it, so they put up with the BS and cuckery, because - its only for now, I'll make my way to the topTo get to the point of this post now, here's why I say communism is INEVITABLE and PREFERABLEBeen watching Andrew Yang videos these days, and I didn't even know technology was progressing this quickly:Are Driverless Trucks Safe Enough to be the Next Big Thing in Logistics? - GlobalTranz Enterprises, LLC.Editor’s Note: Today’s blog is from our friend Justin Fox where he discusses the advancement of AI in driverless trucks and if it is safe enough for Logistics. The Internet […]cerasis.comThink about how many people are going to lose jobs, now understand that virtually every job at some point will be replaced by a robot or AISo, if the elites of society own the means of production, and they have no reason to hire anyone but a few specialized workers to maintain their robots and AI, where the fuck is everyone else going to get money to buy food, pay bills, etcThis is why I say communism is inevitable, Andrew Yang and his UBI (Universal Basic Income) plan is just a preview to the future, because if society and the way humans are valued in a society isn't adapted to the changes that are coming, most everyone is going to be jobless, worthless and poor.Without communism in such a world, society is literally going to fall apart (which would be kind of fun)The only reason people are against communism and for capitalism is because they exist in the current world, a world where they see a chance to work hard and build a better life for themselves, but at some point, the people who own the means to production won't even be offering jobs for you to work hard in, they'll have a cheap slave robot and/or AI that does the work for no pay, so why the fuck would they hire you, and they'll still be using various legal loopholes to pay virtually no taxes so society gets nothing out of their changes to the job market.Can anybody tell me how else such an issue could be managed other than communism, imagine a world where basically every job is being replaced by robotics and/or AI, please tell me if not communism, how every body who once would be working, will gain access to resources, when they can't get a job?All incel oppose communism because prostitution and thus escortmaxxing is illegal and abolishedRomello Gaghan 2 said:It's not real communism bro Stalin and Mao just did it wrong bro 116216No one said that", "mylifeistrash said:Counterpoint: Only women and children are going to get any of benefits of communism.Communism for incels = all their money and shit taken away but get nothing in return. Under pure capitalism, women get nothing from the government while incels keep their shit.Thinking the government is going to provide for incels is a pipe dream and will never happen.Implying I have anything that can be taken away and im not a complete loser.", "“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” - Extremely true, which is why it will take a while for UBI to be implemented. For one, all the boomers and boomer spawn need to die. Hopefully ASAP. But UBI is inevitable. idk about actual communism but maybe", "angrycurrycel said:the foids still fuck you guysOnly Chads*", "BlkPillPres said:TBH I am only in favor of capitalism because I believe I can make it in this system and come out on topTo quote Ronald Wright - “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”Though I think it applies all over the world, not just america, everybody thinks they are going to make it, so they put up with the BS and cuckery, because - its only for now, I'll make my way to the topTo get to the point of this post now, here's why I say communism is INEVITABLE and PREFERABLEBeen watching Andrew Yang videos these days, and I didn't even know technology was progressing this quickly:Are Driverless Trucks Safe Enough to be the Next Big Thing in Logistics? - GlobalTranz Enterprises, LLC.Editor’s Note: Today’s blog is from our friend Justin Fox where he discusses the advancement of AI in driverless trucks and if it is safe enough for Logistics. The Internet […]cerasis.comThink about how many people are going to lose jobs, now understand that virtually every job at some point will be replaced by a robot or AISo, if the elites of society own the means of production, and they have no reason to hire anyone but a few specialized workers to maintain their robots and AI, where the fuck is everyone else going to get money to buy food, pay bills, etcThis is why I say communism is inevitable, Andrew Yang and his UBI (Universal Basic Income) plan is just a preview to the future, because if society and the way humans are valued in a society isn't adapted to the changes that are coming, most everyone is going to be jobless, worthless and poor.Without communism in such a world, society is literally going to fall apart (which would be kind of fun)The only reason people are against communism and for capitalism is because they exist in the current world, a world where they see a chance to work hard and build a better life for themselves, but at some point, the people who own the means to production won't even be offering jobs for you to work hard in, they'll have a cheap slave robot and/or AI that does the work for no pay, so why the fuck would they hire you, and they'll still be using various legal loopholes to pay virtually no taxes so society gets nothing out of their changes to the job market.Can anybody tell me how else such an issue could be managed other than communism, imagine a world where basically every job is being replaced by robotics and/or AI, please tell me if not communism, how every body who once would be working, will gain access to resources, when they can't get a job?I will be laconic as usual ; fuck off.", "chudur-budur said:Not just that, robots are a very lucrative option for industrialists, since they won't form any trade-unions and keep pestering with their businesses. You can use robots in risky and life-threatening positions without worrying about accidents and compensations. Not just only in private industries, robots are going to become a vital part in the army, war and shit.If you did not sign up for #YangGang yet, you are a complete moron.based", "I'd much rather live in a caliphate than under communism.Being an incel and having to wageslave sucks, but it's 1000 worse under communism. Communism is the ultimate inequality, the dictator and the Nomenklatura can do anything they want, from raping babies, to have huge harens, to kill millions of people for some petty dumb reason, while everyone else works/starves to death. There's no sane reason to want it unless you're planning to rope when the world begins to burn.BlkPillPres said:Without communism in such a world, society is literally going to fall apart (which would be kind of fun)Much preferable scenario than communism. If we can have a caliphate or a dark ages reload, it's 100 times preferable than communism.BlkPillPres said:The only reason people are against communism and for capitalism is because they exist in the current world, a world where they see a chance to work hard and build a better life for themselvesNo. I'm against communism because wageslaving as an incel in a non-communist country, as much as it sucks, is 1000 times better than living under communism.", "mylifeistrash said:Counterpoint: Only women and children are going to get any of benefits of communism.Communism for incels = all their money and shit taken away but get nothing in return. Under pure capitalism, women get nothing from the government while incels keep their shit.Thinking the government is going to provide for incels is a pipe dream and will never happen.Lmao it’s doesn’t matter if it’s a capitalism or communism, women always come out on top.In capitalism women capitalize on their vagina and sell it to cucks. In communism they get free shit from men", "WW1 and 2 redistributed wealth. We just need major societal upheaval, a war.", "Mainländer said:I'd much rather live in a caliphate than under communism.Being an incel and having to wageslave sucks, but it's 1000 worse under communism. Communism is the ultimate inequality, the dictator and the Nomenklatura can do anything they want, from raping babies, to have huge harens, to kill millions of people for some petty dumb reason, while everyone else works/starves to death. There's no sane reason to want it unless you're planning to rope when the world begins to burn.You guys keep constructing strawmen and arguing against them, who the hell has argued it should be a dictatorship type communism, why are you asserting that this is the only kind of communism that can exist.Mainländer said:No. I'm against communism because wageslaving as an incel in a non-communist country, as much as it sucks, is 1000 times better than living under communism.Yes, so long as you can wage slave, maybe not for you, but for people of the future, your labor won't be worth shit, you'll be replaced by a robot and//or AI, so you won't even have a chance to wage slave, that's my point, that's the entire point of this thread, communism is preferable to that capitalist state, where the rich are just raking in cash, and everyone else is basically broke and jobless", "BlkPillPres said:why are you asserting that this is the only kind of communism that can exist.Because communism was tried like 30 times and every single time that was what happened. So why would I believe that anything other that (brutal dictatorship and starvation) would happen?BlkPillPres said:where the rich are just raking in cash, and everyone else is basically broke and joblessIn communism the elite will not only live like kings but have unlimited power. Communism is concentration of power, the elite will have all the economical, political, military and cultural power, it creates a monster. Power corrupts.", "IamLost said:We need communism", "BlkPillPres said:Been watching Andrew YangLmao miss me with that gay shit", "mylifeistrash said:Under pure capitalism, women get nothing from the government while incels keep their shit.copeall your money for rent so you don't die of exposure thxpay debt thxall your money or the smart fridge doesn't open and you starve thx", "if you let the government have too much control then the freedom of the citizens will falter. communism works for tribes, not for countries.", "The problem with communism is that is feminist.", "It's all crap schemed up by a dirty [J-word.]Under 'Pure' Communism, there are supposed to be no central authority, no class distinctions, no private property, and everything is voluntarily shared equally amongst the people. Now, do you suppose that the uber Capitalists in Wall Street, who financed Lenin's coup (something that is well-documented), actually found such a state of affairs desirable? Strange then, that the descendants of these well-intentioned individuals continue to sit upon their billions of $s to this day.No, it was just an asset-stripping exercise the tykes used to destroy their competitors, and a premature attempt to take control of the goyim's resources, as prophesised by Isaiah. Yet there are still some sheeple who bleat on how Stalin, the supposed anti-Semite, (who conversed in Yiddish in his household, was involved with Jewish women, and made anti-Semitism a capital crime) betrayed the revolution by his policy of 'Socialism in One Country' (still didn't stop him invading half of Europe though--something the Bolsheviks had attempted to do a couple of decades earlier, only to be rebuffed by Pilsudski) and that the world has never seen 'true' Communism. And they are not wrong, the world HAS never seen Communism has Marx described it; but it never dawned on such people that perhaps he was a liar all along--the photographic portrait of Marx hiding his hand beneath his jacket (the Hidden Hand) suggests he may not be a man who always declared his true intentions.It seems Communism was doomed to failure from the outset, as that was the goal all along. Riddle me this: 1. Who owns all the wealth in Russia today? 2. Who controls all the wealth in the West today? 3. And who has lost vast amounts of power during the past century?Oligarchs with hook-noses.Bankers, CEOs and shareholders--also with hook-nosesSMEs and the self-employed.No, Communism is dead and it won't be coming back. It has been superceded by something much worse, which will reveal itself in due course . . .", "Just give me free cute adorable loli", "Marxists are wokeThe Right To Be LazyPaul Lafargue The Right To Be Lazy 1883 Written: Saint Pélagie Prison, 1883 Translated: Charles Kerr First Published: Charles Kerr and Co., Co-operative,...theanarchistlibrary.org", "Napoleon de Geso said:Just give me free cute adorable loliNot sure they provide them in FEMA camps, though you'll probably not be short of sexual attention anyway.", "Blkpillpress. How a communist society will be favourable for us. You didn't explain that properly.", "Kashayam said:Blkpillpress. How a communist society will be favourable for us. You didn't explain that properly.Read the thread overMy point is that at some point everything will become automated (robots, machinery, artificial intelligence)Companies will be hiring very few individuals, ostly just for maintenance of robotics, etcIn such an era communism would favorable, society will have to switch to a communist model because there basically won't be any jobs for anyone to work, you can't have a society of mostly unemployed people with no incomeYou can't have a capitalist society where robotics, machinery and AI dominates most jobs, capitalism only works when the majority of the workforce is human, and companies only employ humans because technology isn't advanced enough to sufficiently replace humans in the work force, one day it will beTherefore the companies themselves will have to be taxed and that tax distributed to the citizens of that country, barely anybody is going to be working, most citizens will be of a leisure class and everyone will basically have the same incomeIf society remains capitalist with the stated advances in tech, society will fall apart very shortly, there will be rampant crime and civil disobedience", "brainlet thread.1: separate the races and kill the Jews(the world is an ant colony and we need to separate the races)2: kill all women for robotic wombsif this isn’t in your new system I’m not buying it", "BlkPillPres said:Read the thread overMy point is that at some point everything will become automated (robots, machinery, artificial intelligence)Companies will be hiring very few individuals, ostly just for maintenance of robotics, etcIn such an era communism would favorable, society will have to switch to a communist model because there basically won't be any jobs for anyone to work, you can't have a society of mostly unemployed people with no incomeYou can't have a capitalist society where robotics, machinery and AI dominates most jobs, capitalism only works when the majority of the workforce is human, and companies only employ humans because technology isn't advanced enough to sufficiently replace humans in the work force, one day it will beTherefore the companies themselves will have to be taxed and that tax distributed to the citizens of that country, barely anybody is going to be working, most citizens will be of a leisure class and everyone will basically have the same incomeIf society remains capitalist with the stated advances in tech, society will fall apart very shortly, there will be rampant crime and civil disobedienceCoronavirus: Robot doctor could help with future outbreakExperts hope to create the first healthcare robot to hold a conversation with more than one person.www.bbc.comRobotic doctors are already being brought in to fight the corona virus. Makes you wonder, maybe the corona virus was biologically engineered by the elites of society as a reason to introduce automation into the job market.", "So frustrating how many idiots didn’t even read this post and just stated pointing to the failings of communism throughout the 20th century.You think the social democracy most of us enjoy now was possible in the 18th century or 19th centuries? The coming century will be most transformative in human history, it will look extremely different to what we have now and we will face a host of new problems as the ones we have faced for millennia are finally overcome.UBI in a post-labour world is not the same as the Marxist model for ‘communism’ in which the centralisation of workers is the predominant feature. There won’t even be any fucking workers, that is the point.A society where industry is entirely automated will have to be entirely different to one in which industrial production is still driven by human man-power.The detractors here aren’t considering that UBI will be a reaction to this automation, if you are going to be disparaging of it then you will need to think of another solution, otherwise you will have mass starvation of the general population while a small group of elites sit and watch the world burn from their techno-ivory towers.", "What about a neo-Keynesian model with UBI? Private businesses would still exist for services that can't be performed by A.I. The government would have to either tax these corporations to fund the UBI or issue their own money but private means of ownership would still exist.", "BummerDrummer said:brainlet thread.1: separate the races and kill the Jews(the world is an ant colony and we need to separate the races)2: kill all women for robotic wombsif this isn’t in your new system I’m not buying it1. the lowest IQ member of the forum calling a thread made my the highest IQ member brainlet thread is extremely ironic.2. Jews arent a race, they are a religion you dumb fuck.", "ColdLightOfDay said:There won’t even be any fucking workers, that is the pointExactly, and like you said, nobody ever really reads the thread, literally a few lines in you'd understand what the thread is about", "IncelKing said:1. the lowest IQ member of the forum calling a thread made my the highest IQ member brainlet thread is extremely ironic.2. Jews arent a race, they are a religion you dumb fuck.You’re a retard. Also lol @ your ass kissing. Look at this shit @Incel Gamer @Haywire @Personalityinkwell this guys got his tongue so far up this niggas ass he can taste his stomach acid2: Jews are a race. Sure it’s technically a religion but when 99% of that following is from the same place it’s really a race. No actual full blooded white is following Judaism. It’s all atleast somewhat asiatic Khazar and/or Semitic people.", "BummerDrummer said:You’re a retard. Also lol @ your ass kissing. Look at this shit @Incel Gamer @Haywire @Personalityinkwell this guys got his tongue so far up this niggas ass he can taste his stomach acid2: Jews are a race. Sure it’s technically a religion but when 99% of that following is from the same place it’s really a race. No actual full blooded white is following Judaism. It’s all atleast somewhat asiatic Khazar and/or Semitic people.once again insults coming from the guy with knajjd in his profile pic. Go eat knajjid's shit you cocksucking asslicker. I bet you'd allow knajjid to fuck your mother while you watch like a good little cuck.", "MENSA_IQcel said:Private businesses would still exist for services that can't be performed by A.I. YETFTFY, one day everything will be performed by AI, the idea that robots can't replace humans is a cope, every single thought, every single emotion can be quantified into a series of ones and zeros, and one day AI will be indistinguishable from a human mindBummerDrummer said:You’re a retard. Also lol @ your ass kissing. Look at this shit @Incel Gamer @Haywire @Personalityinkwell this guys got his tongue so far up this niggas ass he can taste his stomach acidThis is some highschool tier response (you must still be going to one)Hey guys come see this, calling in more people to see what I'm pointing out makes it trueBummerDrummer said:2: Jews are a race. Sure it’s technically a religion but when 99% of that following is from the same place it’s really a race. No actual full blooded white is following Judaism. It’s all atleast somewhat asiatic Khazar and/or Semitic people.1. No true Scotsman fallacy2. They aren't a race, its a religion, even I can become Jewish you idiot, you can even marry into JudaismTrumps daughter did that if I remember correctly", "IncelKing said:once again insults coming from the guy with knajjd in his profile pic. Go eat knajjid's shit you cocksucking asslicker. I bet you'd allow knajjid to fuck your mother while you watch like a good little cuck.Oh yes. Because my profile picture TOTALLY is me kissing his ass when if anything it should be taken as an insult. Just lol @ u.", "BlkPillPres said:FTFY, one day everything will be performed by AI, the idea that robots can't replace humans is a cope, every single thought, every single emotion can be quantified into a series of ones and zeros, and one day AI will be indistinguishable from a human mindI mean things like actors, escorts, therapists, artists, etc Stuff that people will still want but won't be performed by A.I", "BummerDrummer said:You’re a retard. Also lol @ your ass kissing. Look at this shit @Incel Gamer @Haywire @Personalityinkwell this guys got his tongue so far up this niggas ass he can taste his stomach acid2: Jews are a race. Sure it’s technically a religion but when 99% of that following is from the same place it’s really a race. No actual full blooded white is following Judaism. It’s all atleast somewhat asiatic Khazar and/or Semitic people.say this shit to my face in real life, i promise it'll be the last time you say anything to anyone. I'll literally kill you motherfucker.", "IncelKing said:say this shit to my face in real life, i promise it'll be the last time you say anything to anyone. I'll literally kill you motherfucker.Why would I say shit to your face when you already have blkpillpres’s?", "It's not going to be communism, it's going to be a technocracy. The world be controlled by unaccountable bureaucracy, like the European Union is currently. They'll implement a system where A.I. be used to track and trace everyone and almost every device you have will be connected to the internet. The government and these giant tech companies are pretty much one in the same now and their relationship will only get tighter.Once they have automation and most people lose jobs they will find a way to dispose of these people that are of no use to them. They're not going to give them free money, at least not for very long.", "BummerDrummer said: 227113Why would I say shit to your face when you already have blkpillpres’s?dude there's recordings of your voice all over this forum. Also, there's your youtube channel and discord account. You have left behind lots of digital footprints. Its not that difficult to track you down. When i pull up to your door-step, You'll be apologising to me like a good boy but it wont make a difference. I'll make you swallow your words.", "IncelKing said:dude there's recordings of your voice all over this forum. Also, there's your youtube channel and discord account. You have left behind lots of digital footprints. Its not that difficult to track you down.When i pull up to your door-step, You'll be apologising to me like a good boy but it wont make a difference. I'll make you swallow your words.Yeah no shit you fucktard of course I do. I make it known I live in Austin, Texas.once you come if you do I will destroylossus you", "MENSA_IQcel said:I mean things like actors, escorts, therapists, artists, etc Stuff that people will still want but won't be performed by A.IJFL if you think actors aren't going to be replaced by extremely realistic computer generated models which will be owned by companies, think Hatsune Miku (that's a good example of this), she's a performing artist owned by a company, never gets tired, never has to be paid, people pay to go see herIronically since these AI actors aren't human they'll all be perfect actors once the AI is advanced enoughAI is going to kill all industries, even porn, why pay a porn star, and pay for monthly STD test screening, deal with regulations, etc when you can just generate a scene on a computer and you're doneAn AI can do any of the things you just said even better if its advanced enough, you can say people won't want it performed by an AI, but what you mean is PEOPLE TODAY, those times will be different, people of the past would dislike autotune and say that they can't feel the spirit of the artist and other coping BS yet were alright with autotune today, masturbating to porn on a screen is weird as fuck if you look at it from the perspective of people in the past who would say its dehumanizing yet I'm sure you watch porn and a lot of people do todayThe people of the future will be more than alright with having AI do these things, just like there are people using self driving cars already", "lol at some saying jews are a race and some say they arent here and when searching online wtf is this shit", "BlkPillPres said:JFL if you think actors aren't going to be replaced by extremely realistic computer generated models which will be owned by companies, think Hatsune Miku (that's a good example of this), she's a performing artist owned by a company, never gets tired, never has to be paid, people pay to go see herIronically since these AI actors aren't human they'll all be perfect actors once the AI is advanced enoughAI is going to kill all industries, even porn, why pay a porn star, and pay for monthly STD test screening, deal with regulations, etc when you can just generate a scene on a computer and you're doneAn AI can do any of the things you just said even better if its advanced enough, you can say people won't want it performed by an AI, but what you mean is PEOPLE TODAY, those times will be different, people of the past would dislike autotune and say that they can't feel the spirit of the artist and other coping BS yet were alright with autotune today, masturbating to porn on a screen is weird as fuck if you look at it from the perspective of people in the past who would say its dehumanizing yet I'm sure you watch porn and a lot of people do todayThe people of the future will be more than alright with having AI do these things, just like there are people using self driving cars alreadytherapists can be replaced by AI now jfl. I don't have the source at the moment but there was a study done where they had people use a simple chatbot to act as a therapist for real people and people liked using it. The chatbot therapist basically just repeated what the person said and spit out prewritten messages and people actually liked it and wanted to use it even after the study jfl.", "BlkPillPres said:JFL if you think actors aren't going to be replaced by extremely realistic computer generated models which will be owned by companies, think Hatsune Miku (that's a good example of this), she's a performing artist owned by a company, never gets tired, never has to be paid, people pay to go see herIronically since these AI actors aren't human they'll all be perfect actors once the AI is advanced enoughAI is going to kill all industries, even porn, why pay a porn star, and pay for monthly STD test screening, deal with regulations, etc when you can just generate a scene on a computer and you're doneAn AI can do any of the things you just said even better if its advanced enough, you can say people won't want it performed by an AI, but what you mean is PEOPLE TODAY, those times will be different, people of the past would dislike autotune and say that they can't feel the spirit of the artist and other coping BS yet were alright with autotune today, masturbating to porn on a screen is weird as fuck if you look at it from the perspective of people in the past who would say its dehumanizing yet I'm sure you watch porn and a lot of people do todayThe people of the future will be more than alright with having AI do these things, just like there are people using self driving cars alreadyTerra-High-IQ and future-forecast-maxxed post. You have me convinced on everything except escorts, because I find it unfathomable that the majority of men will ever be satisfied with a sexbot. This could just be my minds inability to see the social dynamics of the future.", "MENSA_IQcel said:Terra-High-IQ and future-forecast-maxxed post. You have me convinced on everything except escorts, because I find it unfathomable that the majority of men will ever be satisfied with a sexbot.This could just be my minds inability to see the social dynamics of the future.once they are good enough I doubt most men will care.", "N-Digger said:Once they have automation and most people lose jobs they will find a way to dispose of these people that are of no use to themJFL dude you are watching too many dystopian sci-fi movies, do you know how expensive it would be to do all of this disposing, and it would be a waste of resources, they'd more likely enslave people than just dispose of them, and even that is pointless as it would just start a war, it just takes one guy to launch a nuke to fuck everything up and it just takes one virus to take out the mainframe of whatever AI they are using to control thingsThe elites can't literally go against millions, you can't stop a riot of millions of people, you can mow down as many as you want, if the conditions are intolerable enough, humans won't care, they will fightSlavery doesn't work in the long run, the reason why slavery in America was abolished likely wasn't because of humanitarian efforts, its because industrialization was just kicking off and it would be cheaper to invest in that than to house and feed a slave, the elites merely piggybacked onto the efforts of humanitarians and made it seem like the nation changed its waysIts cheaper to make a robot do everything and keep people docile than to try and enslave people and commit acts of violence, that's not really cost effective, the elites would more likely just pay people and keep them docile, they will have the majority of power and resources anyways, they'd have won at that point, there'd be no point in disposing of peopleIt sounds as if your mind is going into straight movie plot mode, its like a guy who rules the world and he just has to now destroy it, the elites aren't evil and expecting them to do the things you say is as a result of that idea (that they are evil), they are just pragmatic, resourceful and intelligent", "Fixing the economic inequality would just make the societal inequality much stronger worsening our situation, as for the AI i doubt it will take over because human labour from third world countries will always be cheaperCapitalism is retarded but communism is a mental disease especially for an incel, the only good political ideology is meritocracy like the one described by plato, but sadly that's only an utopia", "Communism is a bit too authoritarian for my liking. I prefer a mixed market approach. Capitalism but with regulations to ensure the CEOs don't hoard all the money; that their workers are fairly paid. I think the essential utilities such as healthcare, power generation, railways, telecoms etc should be publicly owned. Any industry that is essential should be owned by the state ie the tax payer. Private business for profit can produce anything deemed desirable but not essential. This pandemic, like the financial crash of 08 shows the ineptitude of the private sector to deal with a crisis. They pay out to shareholders when the times are good yet expect the taxpayer to bail them out when its not. This model has to end.", "I agree that communism is preferable to capitalism (I think actually everything is preferable to it), but it is an utopia. I know that sounds like the cliched arguments that is used against communism. I am against wageslavery and that is why I am also against capitalism and I would love to live in stateless and moneyless 'society', but I just don't think it is feasible in the real (current) world. The reason why I am also against the teleological line of thinking that x state of society is inevitable (any kind of utopia here whether it would a capitalist or communist one), because it just creates false hope and at the end nothing is changed and you are still miserable. Nothing is envitable in history in my opinion. But maybe that is me just being pessimistic as usual. I hope you understood what I wanted say correctly.", "MENSA_IQcel said:Terra-High-IQ and future-forecast-maxxed post. You have me convinced on everything except escorts, because I find it unfathomable that the majority of men will ever be satisfied with a sexbot.This could just be my minds inability to see the social dynamics of the future.Sex getting replaced will take a longer while though. that I dmit, longer than the other things, but there will likely be a clone black market, so even men who want sex, probably won't bother with datingImagine a world where you can just buy and fuck a beyonce clone or any other cliche known high tier woman that is overhyped lolOne day fucking a real woman will be seen as a fetish in of itself lol, there'll be an actual sex porn category (of course there'll be a term for it other than actual sex), that will be the niche porn of that era. If artificial wombs become advanced enough, reproducing as we do today would be considered ineffecient especialyl because you can't choose the genes, everybody elses child will have 200+ IQ and be 6ft tall, etc, having a regular baby would be seen as irresponsible, your child could not competeI wish I was born 1000 years later", "Communism is based af", "MENSA_IQcel said:Terra-High-IQ and future-forecast-maxxed post. You have me convinced on everything except escorts, because I find it unfathomable that the majority of men will ever be satisfied with a sexbot.This could just be my minds inability to see the social dynamics of the future.yeah i agree with this, men will still rather fuck actual women instead of some AI Robot, even if these robots are structured in a complex manner to replicate the female human body (skin, fat, muscle tissue, organs, bodily fluids etc. all of which are controlled by an AI chip instead of a brain) and engineered to replicate the female human mind (ability to speak, interact, communicate, express emotion etc). No matter to what degree technology will be able to replicate naturally existing phenomena, i dont believe it can create a 100 % identical version of something which is naturally occurring (although it be really close, like 99% similiar).In the same way Robots will be created solely for the purpose of production and economic output, women will be bred solely for the purpose of providing men with sexual pleasure. Womens' existential purpose will be reduced to being sex slaves for men. If they refuse, they will be killed, because in such a world they would have no value other than the pleasure provided by their bodies (even their reproductive value will be gone due to the introduction of artificial wombs). Women will just become living fuckmeats for men in such a world (a world which would make even the patriarchy seem like utopia, from a female perspective).", "BlkPillPres said:Sex getting replaced will take a longer while though. that I dmit, longer than the other things, but there will likely be a clone black market, so even men who want sex, probably won't bother with datingImagine a world where you can just buy and fuck a beyonce clone or any other cliche known high tier woman that is overhyped lolOne day fucking a real woman will be seen as a fetish in of itself lol, there'll be an actual sex porn category (of course there'll be a term for it other than actual sex), that will be the niche porn of that era. If artificial wombs become advanced enough, reproducing as we do today would be considered ineffecient especialyl because you can't choose the genes, everybody elses child will have 200+ IQ and be 6ft tall, etc, having a regular baby would be seen as irresponsible, your child could not competeI wish I was born 1000 years laterThis is actually crazy to think about its actually upsetting to think that i was born to early for all of this ai sex stuff", "I'm a temporarily embarrassed Chad", "IncelKing said:In the same way Robots will be created solely for the purpose of production and economic output, women will be bred solely for the purpose of providing men with sexual pleasure. Womens' existential purpose will be reduced to being sex slaves for men. If they refuse, they will be killed, because in such a world they would have no value other than the pleasure provided by their bodies (even their reproductive value will be gone due to the introduction of artificial wombs). Women will just become living fuckmeats for men in such a world (a world which would make even the patriarchy seem like utopia, from a female perspective).This is literally heaven", "BlkPillPres said:Sex getting replaced will take a longer while though. that I dmit, longer than the other things, but there will likely be a clone black market, so even men who want sex, probably won't bother with datingImagine a world where you can just buy and fuck a beyonce clone or any other cliche known high tier woman that is overhyped lolOne day fucking a real woman will be seen as a fetish in of itself lol, there'll be an actual sex porn category (of course there'll be a term for it other than actual sex), that will be the niche porn of that era. If artificial wombs become advanced enough, reproducing as we do today would be considered ineffecient especialyl because you can't choose the genes, everybody elses child will have 200+ IQ and be 6ft tall, etc, having a regular baby would be seen as irresponsible, your child could not competeI wish I was born 1000 years laterA 200IQ for everyone? Wow then in this world I would just be an average joe! JFL I'm kidding of course. I must say you have an amazing mind to be able to even imagine what type of culture will exist when this technology becomes readily available. I'm sure you're right too. Once this technology exists there is no reason why anyone will prefer to fuck a biological human other than it doesn't feel right with an A.I. Such people will be seen as boomers who can't keep up with new technology. I can definitely see something like that happening in the mid-future.Ultimatepassivecel said:Communism is based afMore like Chadduism. In communism there is no possible ways for people to compete with Chad since wealthmaxxing is forbidden. Communism allows Chad a TOTAL monopoly over the sexual market place as opposed to a stackelberg monopoly he has now.", "MENSA_IQcel said:More like Chadduism. In communism there is no possible ways for people to compete with Chad since wealthmaxxing is forbidden. Communism allows Chad a TOTAL monopoly over the sexual market place as opposed to a stackelberg monopoly he has now.Under communism women arent encouraged to be a bisexual twerking whore unlike liberal-feminism,they are encouraged to work hard and serve their country which means they cant go after Chad.Number of married women in East Germany was higher than west germany also.", "Ultimatepassivecel said:Under communism women arent encouraged to be a bisexual twerking whore unlike liberal-feminism,they are encouraged to work hard and serve their country which means they cant go after Chad.Number of married women in East Germany was higher than west germany also.COPE. Biology > Ideology. They were all fucking Chad on the side. Everytime some incel talks about how a different governmental system would stop hypergamy I encourage them to watch Gone with the Wind. The movie was made in the mid 1930s and is about 1860s Southern United States during the height of its traditionalist feudalistic regime. The women in that movie were ultra-promiscuous.", "BlkPillPres said:JFL dude you are watching too many dystopian sci-fi movies, do you know how expensive it would be to do all of this disposing, and it would be a waste of resources, they'd more likely enslave people than just dispose of them, and even that is pointless as it would just start a war, it just takes one guy to launch a nuke to fuck everything up and it just takes one virus to take out the mainframe of whatever AI they are using to control thingsThe elites can't literally go against millions, you can't stop a riot of millions of people, you can mow down as many as you want, if the conditions are intolerable enough, humans won't care, they will fightSlavery doesn't work in the long run, the reason why slavery in America was abolished likely wasn't because of humanitarian efforts, its because industrialization was just kicking off and it would be cheaper to invest in that than to house and feed a slave, the elites merely piggybacked onto the efforts of humanitarians and made it seem like the nation changed its waysIts cheaper to make a robot do everything and keep people docile than to try and enslave people and commit acts of violence, that's not really cost effective, the elites would more likely just pay people and keep them docile, they will have the majority of power and resources anyways, they'd have won at that point, there'd be no point in disposing of peopleIt sounds as if your mind is going into straight movie plot mode, its like a guy who rules the world and he just has to now destroy it, the elites aren't evil and expecting them to do the things you say is as a result of that idea (that they are evil), they are just pragmatic, resourceful and intelligentThere's a million ways that they could reduce the population other than going and round up people and killing them holocaust style. They are already pushing the idea that children are really bad for the environment and having one increases your carbon footprint. They might even implement something like a one child policy. Sure, if they decided to do that today no-one would stand for it because people value their freedom too much. They do it gradually and over a long period so no-one will notice. After they implement this UBI system no-one will be used to freedom anyway, the government would have complete control over their lives because they are the ones giving them the check every month. The whole automation UBI system sounds good but it would actually be a dystopia.", "MENSA_IQcel said:COPE. Biology > Ideology. They were all fucking Chad on the side. Everytime some incel talks about how a different governmental system would stop hypergamy I encourage them to watch Gone with the Wind. The movie was made in the mid 1930s and is about 1860s Southern United States during the height of its traditionalist feudalistic regime. The women in that movie were ultra-promiscuous.100% this, MENSAiqcel living up to his name once again", "mylifeistrash said:incels won't get any benefits bro. zero. none.all of it will go to women.at least with capitalism you have the chance to make moneyYes I agree but even recruiters want an employee to look good.", "wont be geeting neetbuxx in communism. boyos should always go for capitalism.", "Communism represents a delusional belief in class loyalty just as nationalism represents a delusional belief in tribal loyalty. The only practical way forward is to legitimize your profession, much as doctors, teachers, etc have done in the past. Every foid who wants flexibility to pop out chads' (note position of apostrophe) offspring and every tom, dick, and larry off on summer break can't just become doctors and teachers and steal their hours and erode the legitimacy and adult status of the profession.", "tankiecel uprising?", "sadtardcel said:wont be geeting neetbuxx in communism. boyos should always go for capitalism.you dont get neetbux in capitalism either lol. You get NEETbux in socialism.", "BlkPillPres said:TBH I am only in favor of capitalism because I believe I can make it in this system and come out on topTo quote Ronald Wright - “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”Though I think it applies all over the world, not just america, everybody thinks they are going to make it, so they put up with the BS and cuckery, because - its only for now, I'll make my way to the topTo get to the point of this post now, here's why I say communism is INEVITABLE and PREFERABLEBeen watching Andrew Yang videos these days, and I didn't even know technology was progressing this quickly:Are Driverless Trucks Safe Enough to be the Next Big Thing in Logistics? - GlobalTranz Enterprises, LLC.Editor’s Note: Today’s blog is from our friend Justin Fox where he discusses the advancement of AI in driverless trucks and if it is safe enough for Logistics. The Internet […]cerasis.comThink about how many people are going to lose jobs, now understand that virtually every job at some point will be replaced by a robot or AISo, if the elites of society own the means of production, and they have no reason to hire anyone but a few specialized workers to maintain their robots and AI, where the fuck is everyone else going to get money to buy food, pay bills, etcThis is why I say communism is inevitable, Andrew Yang and his UBI (Universal Basic Income) plan is just a preview to the future, because if society and the way humans are valued in a society isn't adapted to the changes that are coming, most everyone is going to be jobless, worthless and poor.Without communism in such a world, society is literally going to fall apart (which would be kind of fun)The only reason people are against communism and for capitalism is because they exist in the current world, a world where they see a chance to work hard and build a better life for themselves, but at some point, the people who own the means to production won't even be offering jobs for you to work hard in, they'll have a cheap slave robot and/or AI that does the work for no pay, so why the fuck would they hire you, and they'll still be using various legal loopholes to pay virtually no taxes so society gets nothing out of their changes to the job market.Can anybody tell me how else such an issue could be managed other than communism, imagine a world where basically every job is being replaced by robotics and/or AI, please tell me if not communism, how every body who once would be working, will gain access to resources, when they can't get a job?This is why UBI is inevitable.Capitalism has a contradiction: it drives efficiency that makes products cheaper by substitution labor with machines so that they don't have to pay wages. But wages have double nature - wage is simultaneously a cost (to the capitals) and an earning (to the worker). Consumption has the opposite nature: it is a cost for the worker (buying goods) and an earning for the Capitalis (selling what his factory is producing). Namely, Workers NEED wages to buy what the capitalist is producing. Both capitalists and workers are dependent on wages.UBI is an attempt to solve the problem of capitalism overproduction and in fact “save” capitalism and NOT to promote communism or socialism. UBI is the most capitalist shit ever! Now… UBI is NOT Socialism nor Communism. JFL at people who think UBI is either of them - Uttery illiterate normies.It is a long story…. I will write about that later.", "SEXUAL COMMUNISM NOW", "IncelKing said:say this shit to my face in real life, i promise it'll be the last time you say anything to anyone. I'll literally kill you motherfucker. ", "IncelKing said:you dont get neetbux in capitalism either lol. You get NEETbux in socialism.look at venezula, it went full communism and people got neetbuxx for certain time but now its collapsed. capitalism is balanced.", "sadtardcel said:look at venezula, it went full communism and people got neetbuxx for certain time but now its collapsed. capitalism is balanced.It collapsed because they didn't have the economy described in my post, a lot of you literally aren't reading the thread and then replyingThe setting is that pretty much all jobs have been replaced by robotics or AI so pretty much nobody has a job, in that setting those companies would have to be taxed heavily in order to get a kind of UBI (like yang suggested) and give to citizensCommunism in Venezuela failed because their economy is shit", "Have you read Kapital by any chance?Karl Marx already described how capitalism and capital accumulation is inherently contradictory, and will give rise to something else.Capitalism would have been over decades ago, the only thing keeping it alive right now is fictitious capital, debt, and the power of the US Military. Capitalism would not exist without force and indentured servitude.", "Incel_Because_Short said:Have you read Kapital by any chance?Karl Marx already described how capitalism and capital accumulation is inherently contradictory, and will give rise to something else.Capitalism would have been over decades ago, the only thing keeping it alive right now is fictitious capital, debt, and the power of the US Military. Capitalism would not exist without force and indentured servitude.Capitalism is currently to vital to society for it to collapse. Take China for example. If they just said fuck it and went AWOL then at least 60% of all world manufactured products from pencils to pace makers to phones would just stop being produced. Without these things capitalism would collapse and so would society.But capitalism won’t fail, so much as it will kill itself. With increasing automation around the world, there will come a point in the next few decades where the majority of people are jobless. This will subsequently lead to dissatisfaction with the capitalist system, which will lead to a socialist revolution which slowly converts to communism.", "I’m not a communist tbh", "Marquis de Sade said:Communism is a bit too authoritarian for my liking. I prefer a mixed market approach. Capitalism but with regulations to ensure the CEOs don't hoard all the money; that their workers are fairly paid. I think the essential utilities such as healthcare, power generation, railways, telecoms etc should be publicly owned. Any industry that is essential should be owned by the state ie the tax payer. Private business for profit can produce anything deemed desirable but not essential. This pandemic, like the financial crash of 08 shows the ineptitude of the private sector to deal with a crisis. They pay out to shareholders when the times are good yet expect the taxpayer to bail them out when its not. This model has to end.This is cope.Government regulation can be bought by the capitalists, and usually serves their interests by creating artificial barriers of entry that work in their interest. Think of the telecommunications industry in Canada or the Dairy industry.States work for the ruling class and serve to protect their interests in the class struggle. It has always been this way.", "IncelKing said:say this shit to my face in real life, i promise it'll be the last time you say anything to anyone. I'll literally kill you motherfucker.scary guy tbh", "I'll be alright if I get enough UBI to surgerymaxx and science and technology advance enough for me to be a transhuman chad. Everyone being provided with just the bare minimum to get by with no means of extra income would be a nightmare for incels and a dream fro foids and chads. I would hope that a program exists to provide American with personal means of production like 3D metal printers in their homes and shit like that so we can produce our own items and trade among each other.", "zangano1 said:communism ", "Sparrow's Song said:I'll be alright if I get enough UBI to surgerymaxx and science and technology advance enough for me to be a transhuman chad.Everyone being provided with just the bare minimum to get by with no means of extra income would be a nightmare for incels and a dream fro foids and chads. I would hope that a program exists to provide American with personal means of production like 3D metal printers in their homes and shit like that so we can produce our own items and trade among each other.This is a very good point that OP missed. Production is becoming increasingly decentralized as time goes on. The AI issue he presents is valid, but it ignores other fundamental changes im how things are made. The AI that runs a factory 3D printer can also run yours, provided it is open source. UBI will be implemented, but you must understand the majority of people are useless garbage. There will come a point in time where there will be a birth license or such issued, and you'll have to meet certain requirements to have kids.", "NoCopeNoHope said:This is a very good point that OP missed. Production is becoming increasingly decentralized as time goes on. The AI issue he presents is valid, but it ignores other fundamental changes im how things are made. The AI that runs a factory 3D printer can also run yours, provided it is open source. UBI will be implemented, but you must understand the majority of people are useless garbage. There will come a point in time where there will be a birth license or such issued, and you'll have to meet certain requirements to have kids.We can be sure that the issuing of these licenses will allow nearly all foids and almost no men to reproduce.", "The only real solution for any individual is to kill, rape and subjugate. All these systems promising to make you happy are just snake oil being sold to you by those very individuals trying to do those things with as little risk to themselves as possible.You're really just another mouth to feed, and if you want more than the meager amount you're getting, you have to get rid of the other mouths. It's that simple. The problem, really, is that we'll kill anyone who acts up. And gladly, because that's one less mouth to feed. But then 10 more mouths will just sprout up and play the game fairly. So that means even fewer portions for everyone but those who are at the top. Our birth rate is raw-dogging our death rate, and you just happened to be born in the exact time and place when human life is about as valuable as an expired condom on the ground.", "Society falling apart is my dream", "The thing about the system being proposed is that why would society spend resources on a population that isn't being productive; they're just going to be a useless burden to the elite plus why would they do anything if they can have their basic needs met without effort?I'm not saying that capitalism is okay because it's exploitative while the elites get to make the most money without any effort or providing value, but just questioning if society is willing to provide to the masses if they are no longer required to work even if robots can generate enough resources to support everyone (automated vertical farms, renewable electricity, etc.)If nobody needs to work to earn money then will women still be willing to become prostitutes? What about money and trade? Will people still trade goods and services? Would sex bots be free or would people have to buy one?", "90% of this thread just like 90% of America has no idea what communism is", "BlkPillPres said:TBH I am only in favor of capitalism because I believe I can make it in this system and come out on topTo quote Ronald Wright - “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”Though I think it applies all over the world, not just america, everybody thinks they are going to make it, so they put up with the BS and cuckery, because - its only for now, I'll make my way to the topTo get to the point of this post now, here's why I say communism is INEVITABLE and PREFERABLEBeen watching Andrew Yang videos these days, and I didn't even know technology was progressing this quickly:Are Driverless Trucks Safe Enough to be the Next Big Thing in Logistics? - GlobalTranz Enterprises, LLC.Editor’s Note: Today’s blog is from our friend Justin Fox where he discusses the advancement of AI in driverless trucks and if it is safe enough for Logistics. The Internet […]cerasis.comThink about how many people are going to lose jobs, now understand that virtually every job at some point will be replaced by a robot or AISo, if the elites of society own the means of production, and they have no reason to hire anyone but a few specialized workers to maintain their robots and AI, where the fuck is everyone else going to get money to buy food, pay bills, etcThis is why I say communism is inevitable, Andrew Yang and his UBI (Universal Basic Income) plan is just a preview to the future, because if society and the way humans are valued in a society isn't adapted to the changes that are coming, most everyone is going to be jobless, worthless and poor.Without communism in such a world, society is literally going to fall apart (which would be kind of fun)The only reason people are against communism and for capitalism is because they exist in the current world, a world where they see a chance to work hard and build a better life for themselves, but at some point, the people who own the means to production won't even be offering jobs for you to work hard in, they'll have a cheap slave robot and/or AI that does the work for no pay, so why the fuck would they hire you, and they'll still be using various legal loopholes to pay virtually no taxes so society gets nothing out of their changes to the job market.Can anybody tell me how else such an issue could be managed other than communism, imagine a world where basically every job is being replaced by robotics and/or AI, please tell me if not communism, how every body who once would be working, will gain access to resources, when they can't get a job?Yes Goyim we need communist revolution now!!!!!!!!!!After the revolution there will be Jewish one world dictatorship with Goyim all in slave labor camps while Jews like me live in extreme luxury having sex parties with JBs", "Communism wouldn't be realistically doable.If people had a collective consciousness and put the benefits of the community before their own benefits, yes, but realistically it's not the case.Capitalism isn't a good system either.We see with the state of the sexual market what a unregulated market can do, it is desastrous and it's the same concerning the economic system.", "TheDarkEnigma said:The thing about the system being proposed is that why would society spend resources on a population that isn't being productive; they're just going to be a useless burden to the elite plus why would they do anything if they can have their basic needs met without effort?Some people are passionate and genuinely want to save other peoples lives or protect them. Here's the truth, people have passions, but they can never pursue them because the world is set up so that you have to pursue money. Your parents push you in that direction, your teachers push you in that direction (depends on the teacher). I remember my art teacher being impressed by my earlier drawing skills and telling me that she wanted me to stick to art because she see's a lot of potential, but I didn't because you have to make money.Ironically I might have a job in some art field right now if I had stuck to it.I always liked music and art, but I went into fields related to computers because I felt like I could land me a stable job, I did it for security in this capitalist society. But ironically I don't even have a job right now. The illusion of job security is what I was sold, the truth is no such thing exists, the only security is owning your own means of production (having a business or passive income stream).Poverty was also another thing hanging over my head that pushed me to go with the safer choice. If UBI (Universal Basic Income) was already part of the system, I would have went into art and music, and I would have excelled in those fields (without a doubt, I know I have talent in both).I know people who genuinely wanted to be doctors because they wanted to save peoples lives (not sure if they are one right now), I'm sure there are people who genuinely want to be a police officer because they want to protect their community and the people they care about, etc, etc, etc.What we have now is a world where people just work out of necessity and not because of passion, and because of that, people half ass their job, corruption is rampant because if you are basically forced to do something for the money anyways, you might as well make some extra money on the side to look the other way.Not only that, people who are forced to work (slave away their lives) in this manner feel no allegiance or commitment towards society, and so they don't care about the greater good or society in any way. Capitalism creates an every man for himself culture, and it only SEEMS sustainable, but this is short term.In the long term as things progress, society is going to collapse.If you create a society where people do the things they genuinely enjoy doing, before they become bitter about life, then you'll have an all round better society.But it's too late for someone like me to have that mindset, I see society as my enemy, I feel no allegiance or commitment to society, I don't care about the greater good, I don't care about contributing to society, etc. I'm only out for myself, and that's because every opportunity that should have been there so that I could feel like a valued member of society was taken away.Also, do you know how much crime would go down if the average person knew they have a set amount of money coming in each month. A lot of people turn to crime for good reasons, not every criminal is just trying to have gold chains and expensive cars. Even the ones who ended up like that started off wanting to provide for their family.TheDarkEnigma said:I'm not saying that capitalism is okay because it's exploitative while the elites get to make the most money without any effort or providing value, but just questioning if society is willing to provide to the masses if they are no longer required to work even if robots can generate enough resources to support everyone (automated vertical farms, renewable electricity, etc.)I don't think you read my post, society WON'T HAVE A CHOICE because people en masse will turn to crime and civil unrest, the elites won't even be safe.TheDarkEnigma said:If nobody needs to work to earn money then will women still be willing to become prostitutes?Ironically yes, women are vain and they like buying a lot of pointless expensive shit. Most strippers and prostitutes are broke despite making a lot of money, because they spend their money frivolously, and therefore they have to keep working to maintain their lifestyle.TheDarkEnigma said:What about money and trade? Will people still trade goods and services? Would sex bots be free or would people have to buy one?People would still have to but products. The UBI would just be supplementary. You'd still have to get a job and work if you wanted more things out of life, but the UBI would make it so that people pursued their passions instead of pursuing job security because you don't want to starve.", "BlkPillPres said:TBH I am only in favor of capitalism because I believe I can make it in this system and come out on topTo quote Ronald Wright - “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”Though I think it applies all over the world, not just america, everybody thinks they are going to make it, so they put up with the BS and cuckery, because - its only for now, I'll make my way to the topTo get to the point of this post now, here's why I say communism is INEVITABLE and PREFERABLEBeen watching Andrew Yang videos these days, and I didn't even know technology was progressing this quickly:Are Driverless Trucks Safe Enough to be the Next Big Thing in Logistics? - GlobalTranz Enterprises, LLC.Editor’s Note: Today’s blog is from our friend Justin Fox where he discusses the advancement of AI in driverless trucks and if it is safe enough for Logistics. The Internet […]cerasis.comThink about how many people are going to lose jobs, now understand that virtually every job at some point will be replaced by a robot or AISo, if the elites of society own the means of production, and they have no reason to hire anyone but a few specialized workers to maintain their robots and AI, where the fuck is everyone else going to get money to buy food, pay bills, etcThis is why I say communism is inevitable, Andrew Yang and his UBI (Universal Basic Income) plan is just a preview to the future, because if society and the way humans are valued in a society isn't adapted to the changes that are coming, most everyone is going to be jobless, worthless and poor.Without communism in such a world, society is literally going to fall apart (which would be kind of fun)The only reason people are against communism and for capitalism is because they exist in the current world, a world where they see a chance to work hard and build a better life for themselves, but at some point, the people who own the means to production won't even be offering jobs for you to work hard in, they'll have a cheap slave robot and/or AI that does the work for no pay, so why the fuck would they hire you, and they'll still be using various legal loopholes to pay virtually no taxes so society gets nothing out of their changes to the job market.Can anybody tell me how else such an issue could be managed other than communism, imagine a world where basically every job is being replaced by robotics and/or AI, please tell me if not communism, how every body who once would be working, will gain access to resources, when they can't get a job?sexual socialism needs to be implanted ASAPeither that or sexual automation easily available to cels. sexbots, robot gfs etceverything is on the big computer locked behind a kike password", "LeFrenchCel said:Communism wouldn't be realistically doable.If people had a collective consciousness and put the benefits of the community before their own benefits, yes, but realistically it's not the case.You can literally just create laws to incentivize the behaviors you want, and deter the behaviors you don't. The government does this all the time. We like to think that humans are at a lot more self sufficient than they actually are, but if you set the rules up 99% of people will abide by it to be allowed the chance to live in society.", "BlkPillPres said:Ironically I might have a job in some art field right now if I had stuck to it.I always liked music and art, but I went into fields related to computers because I felt like I could land me a stable job, I did it for security in this capitalist society.I hope that you’ll find something good for you soon enough.A job that easy enough to let you have time to let you moneymaxx.Mine is good , but recently things kicked up a notch so much that I need to wake up very early to make time for my moneymaxxing projects.(4am)", "a means to an end said:I hope that you’ll find something good for you soon enough.A job that easy enough to let you have time to let you moneymaxx.I doubt that's going to happen, I'm going to have to make the money from moneymaxxing itself (using the free time I have now).", "tell me you're a kike without telling me you're a kike", "good", "@BlkPillPres what are your thoughts on technology like this:View: ", "TheDarkEnigma said:@BlkPillPres what are your thoughts on technology like this:View: to expand...It's great, it's inevitable, at some point there won't even be workers there, it will be robots doing the harvesting (but that's maybe hundreds to thousands of years in the future).This is what I mean by communism being inevitable, because at some point it will be more optimal to not employ people, and you can't have a system that runs on money when most people don't have a job, so a UBI system will have to be put in place where people get paid just to exist, or else people will turn to crime and rioting, and chaos will take root in society.", "BlkPillPres said:It's great, it's inevitable, at some point there won't even be workers there, it will be robots doing the harvesting (but that's maybe hundreds to thousands of years in the future).This is what I mean by communism being inevitable, because at some point it will be more optimal to not employ people, and you can't have a system that runs on money when most people don't have a job, so a UBI system will have to be put in place where people get paid just to exist, or else people will turn to crime and rioting, and chaos will take root in society.Yeah, basically it will be a post-scarcity society where people don't have to worry about going hungry or not having electricity. Food will be produced without the need for human labor, enough to feed everyone, and a facility can be built in a urban environment which would eliminate the logistics needed to transport food over long distances. Likewise, electricity production can be localize and make use of hydro or geothermal energy without having to burn scarce fossil fuels or produce waste.Maybe in the future, they will send robots to mine asteroids of rare minerals to make electronics.You still mention that foids will still turn to prostitution even if UBI is implemented and it provides them enough for necessities, prostitutes would still sell themselves even if they don't have to do it to survive. In that case, would UBI be enough for a man to buy sex or will foids still overinflate the sex market?", "kike kike kike kike kike kike kike kike kike", "TheDarkEnigma said:You still mention that foids will still turn to prostitution even if UBI is implemented and it provides them enough for necessities, prostitutes would still sell themselves even if they don't have to do it to survive. In that case, would UBI be enough for a man to buy sex or will foids still overinflate the sex market?Yep, because women always want luxury, just having minor conveniences won't be enough, but at some point these women will barely have customers because realistic sex androids will hit the market lol.", "BlkPillPres said:Yep, because women always want luxury, just having minor conveniences won't be enough, but at some point these women will barely have customers because realistic sex androids will hit the market lol.You mentioned also that most foids who become sex workers often had troubled childhoods that made them choose that path in life. If that's the case they aren't just doing it because it's simply lucrative. The only reason to defend prostitution is to keep the male incel population under control, but obviously foids would rather take the OnlyFans route where they can make money out of men's lust without actually having to meet them personally for sex.Also, I asked the question of what prostitution will be like under UBI if sex bots weren't invented, since I believe the social and economic changes to implement socialism is much easier and come sooner than trying to replicate a human female in robot form. UBI should be enough for someone to pay for basic needs, and that should include sex. However, unlike food, water, shelter, etc. foids will still control access to sex.", "Oy bey of course ((((((communism))))))))) is coming you stupid goyim with Jews in complete control BlkPillPres said:TBH I am only in favor of capitalism because I believe I can make it in this system and come out on topTo quote Ronald Wright - “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”Though I think it applies all over the world, not just america, everybody thinks they are going to make it, so they put up with the BS and cuckery, because - its only for now, I'll make my way to the topTo get to the point of this post now, here's why I say communism is INEVITABLE and PREFERABLEBeen watching Andrew Yang videos these days, and I didn't even know technology was progressing this quickly:Are Driverless Trucks Safe Enough to be the Next Big Thing in Logistics? - GlobalTranz Enterprises, LLC.Editor’s Note: Today’s blog is from our friend Justin Fox where he discusses the advancement of AI in driverless trucks and if it is safe enough for Logistics. The Internet […]cerasis.comThink about how many people are going to lose jobs, now understand that virtually every job at some point will be replaced by a robot or AISo, if the elites of society own the means of production, and they have no reason to hire anyone but a few specialized workers to maintain their robots and AI, where the fuck is everyone else going to get money to buy food, pay bills, etcThis is why I say communism is inevitable, Andrew Yang and his UBI (Universal Basic Income) plan is just a preview to the future, because if society and the way humans are valued in a society isn't adapted to the changes that are coming, most everyone is going to be jobless, worthless and poor.Without communism in such a world, society is literally going to fall apart (which would be kind of fun)The only reason people are against communism and for capitalism is because they exist in the current world, a world where they see a chance to work hard and build a better life for themselves, but at some point, the people who own the means to production won't even be offering jobs for you to work hard in, they'll have a cheap slave robot and/or AI that does the work for no pay, so why the fuck would they hire you, and they'll still be using various legal loopholes to pay virtually no taxes so society gets nothing out of their changes to the job market.Can anybody tell me how else such an issue could be managed other than communism, imagine a world where basically every job is being replaced by robotics and/or AI, please tell me if not communism, how every body who once would be working, will gain access to resources, when they can't get a job?", "As an nsdap the zio bolshevicks/commies are my opositionI am super in favor of unions and workers rights but the eventual goal of Marxism is abolishment of private property I own very little but if you try to take it........", "if the elites of society own the means of production, and they have no reason to hire anyone but a few specialized workers to maintain their robots and AI, where the fuck is everyone else going to get money to buy food, pay bills, etcSomeone already mentioned it but the means of production might not actually be centralized in the future. I might be that a lot of people will have their own 3d printers, ISPs, farms etc. Technology is a disrupter and can vaporize government enforced monopolies. Nobody is disputing less workers due to automation.This is why I say communism is inevitable, Andrew Yang and his UBI (Universal Basic Income) plan is just a preview to the future, because if society and the way humans are valued in a society isn't adapted to the changes that are coming, most everyone is going to be jobless, worthless and poor.I think some type of minimum resource distribution is coming but unsure if it is fiat money. If you give everyone 1000/month that just because the new 0, meaning people will just increase the price of rent and living to match the debasement of the money supply. Also I'm unsure if communism is inevitable and if it is whether it can be enforced with violence and subjugation in perpetuity. In any case it doesn't apply to us because we'll be dead before it happens and none of us will have descendants to see it. Without communism in such a world, society is literally going to fall apart (which would be kind of fun)Society is falling apart right now and we have the privilege of seeing it unfold during our lifetime. The only reason people are against communism and for capitalism is because they exist in the current world, a world where they see a chance to work hard and build a better life for themselves, but at some point, the people who own the means to production won't even be offering jobs for you to work hard in, they'll have a cheap slave robot and/or AI that does the work for no pay, so why the fuck would they hire you, and they'll still be using various legal loopholes to pay virtually no taxes so society gets nothing out of their changes to the job market.Most millennials and zoomers want communism or redistribution of wealth because they can't afford the standard of living their parents and grand parents had. This will be the trend for the next few decades. Governments will move to a taxation model where like you mentioned they begin confiscating assets and eventually the company itself. If this happens many will leave for different nation states, there will be different pockets with different economic strategies. I can draw a similar analogy for incels that want redistribution of foids, however I think this is such an embarrassing problem I can it being difficult for men to rally around. It is far more easier to rally and get violent for they took our jobs! than I have no gf! While it is 99% that will be living in poverty (in this future scenario) it is less than 80% of men that have trouble with foids and there are endless copes and lies to deal with that. From what I've observed most incels here are for government redistribution of resources. I am against it. Not on moral grounds but rather because I don't believe any government is capable of executing this operation in a fulfilling manner for people. I don't believe $1000/month (stipends) or government mandated gf will work out in the long run. Whatever the government touches always goes to shit. Can anybody tell me how else such an issue could be managed other than communismNot our problem. We don't have a stake in this society, like literally. If it works out fine, but we or our descendants will not be there for it. imagine a world where basically every job is being replaced by robotics and/or AI, please tell me if not communism, how every body who once would be working, will gain access to resources, when they can't get a job?If the technocrats own all the assets and don't need the excess why not cull the population and keep the bare minimum selected for their genes and not-yet replaceable skills? You don't have to enslave the population with traditional methods. The future is some sort of human zoo for the elites that are the keepers of it.", "The future is not looking goodIn the very near future we won't even be able to work hard to succeed, then probably only sex and genes would be valuedWe're all going to die broke lol, except the chads and stacies, unless sex bots become a thing: If this happens, I'm pro communism too", "BlkPillPres said:In the long term as things progress, society is going to collapse.This is where I disagree, we can't retaliate, if we're being honest there are tons of egoists who are alive and will take up the police force, being a doctor, all of this to protect others from our ugly assYou can't even expect people to kill themselves, almost all of us here don't kill themselves because they're afraid of pain, the slave system will still function and there will be an endless supply of exploited slavesBecause they HAVE TO survive, they'll keep working for the greater good of society, but I'm optimistic about corruption, corruption is necessary in this clownworld with shit lawsInfiltrate their database get hanged, it's all good, at least some impact will come out of it...idk the hope part but I hope something happens", "I agree communism (real one) is a way better system, along with the mating market.", "AsiaCel said:I agree communism (real one) is a way better system, along with the mating market.We need to end sexual capitalism. We need Marxism Rodgerism." ]
Its OverTake the wolfpill
[ "We made jokes about wolves having hunter eyes and how they are the Chads of dogs.It's no longer a joke.Source: I might be going mentally insane but does you understand how over it is for us!?A completely different species is doing something we'll never even experience.", "Wolf is just bad boy dog with hunter eyes.Remember hypergamy never stops.", "Stacey would rather ferociously lick into the mouth of a bubonic plague ridden wild wolfs mouth, than ever kiss you on the cheek", "This is some sick shit. Regardless of if you believe in the sexual version of the dogpill or not, nobody can deny femoids like having nasty dog slobber all over their rotten sewer lips.", "Whats next? Are stacys gonna jump in ponds and fuck gators", "damn that gif is pure sui fuel, wish that wolf would've bitter her face off", "Dionysus said:Whats next? Are stacys gonna jump in ponds and fuck gatorsDon't give the foids any ideas.", "Come to www.reddit.com/r/TheDogPill", "Wolfs are alpha af", "WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THEM", "seija said:Don't give the foids any ideas.Better gators than wolves tbh. Maybe they can get eaten", "hmmm she seems to submit to the wolf. bestiality with woman is more common than people think.", "Slayer ", "ihaveno1 said:damn that gif is pure sui fuel, wish that wolf would've bitter her face offTbhHaywire said:hmmm she seems to submit to the wolf. bestiality with woman is more common than people think.Wouldn't surprise me.Hence why I wish I was born a dog.the black dog said:WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THEMIt would be quicker to state what isn't wrong with them.What isn't wrong with them: PowerLevelCel said:Slayer JBW (Just be wolf)", "The wolfpill nuked me", "If you tried to force a kiss on her you'd catch a sexual assault charge, it's fucked up mate.", "Bitch is beyond insanity.", "The wolfpill is a step beyond the realm of the unpleasant well known dogpill, as wolves themselves are just dogs on steroids to say the least it's pretty obvious women would like to fuck them. They are kinda what Tyrone is to Chad, basically a more masculine and savage version of the latter inducing the femoids to like them much more than the former because of their high T fetishes.", "Caninepill obliterated me", "Hate_my_life said:We made jokes about wolves having hunter eyes and how they are the Chads of dogs.It's no longer a joke. 116226Source:I might be going mentally insane but does you understand how over it is for us!?A completely different species is doing something we'll never even experience.My dog used to do that NGL. I thought it was hilarious as a 10 yo, but an adult opening up her mouth with obvious sexual arousal? That’s the paragon of degeneracy.", "Hope the wolf didn’t catch herpes.", "Brutal wolfpillItsOver4cel said:They are kinda what Tyrone is to Chad", "And that is ok in this world ", "Tempus Edax Rerum said:Wolf is just bad boy dog with hunter eyes.Remember hypergamy never stops.It's over for dogs", "The wolf pill licked me", "Dogcels on suicide watch", "wolves are the uncucked version of dogs", "A reminder a quadruped animal can nonchalently come to her face and lick her tongue raw on the open.If you looked at her for too long in the subway, you would be on national watch list.Roasties, laidies and gents...", "This is not sexual. I saw that documentary on YouTube. She let him lick her to gain his trust. That’s how wolves greet new wolves and get to know them. If you don’t let a wolf lick you in the mouth it might view you as a threat and kill you.", "Silverandgold said:This is not sexual. I saw that documentary on YouTube. She let him lick her to gain his trust. That’s how wolves greet new wolves and get to know them. If you don’t let a wolf lick you in the mouth it might view you as a threat and kill you.??????????????? bruh", "Japs were years ahead of us yet again, prior to this 2019 thread was this spring 2016 scene from Konosuba's anime.Your browser is not able to display this video.Possibly even earlier since the novel series began in 2012 (manga in 2014) but I don't know if this wolf scene was in either of them.Silverandgold said:That’s how wolves greet new wolves and get to know them. If you don’t let a wolf lick you in the mouth it might view you as a threat and kill you.seems like an act of submission to me, like I'm giving you the chance to bite off and swallow my tongue, which shows I trust youItsOver4cel said:wolves themselves are just dogs on steroidsA better analogy would be that dogs are wolves on soyItsOver4cel said:They are kinda what Tyrone is to Chad, basically a more masculine and savage version of the latter inducing the femoids to like them much more than the former because of their high T fetishes.There's no evidence I've seen that the highest-T nigs have more test than the highest-T caucs.Just seems like black-fetishizing cope tbh", "bad breath", "tehgymcel420 said:Come to www.reddit.com/r/TheDogPillthis is banned so someone should start a wolfpill subreddit and see how long it lasts", "solblue said:Caninepill obliterated me", "Dionysus said:Whats next? Are stacys gonna jump in ponds and fuck gatorsSpoiler: this is a page from the comic Little Ego published in the 1980sGiardino knew all about the gatorpill", "Let me guess, the wolf has a nicer personality than me? Wizard32 said:Spoiler: this is a page from the comic Little Ego published in the 1980s 492544Giardino knew all about the gatorpillJFL The Alligator Has a Permanently Erect, Bungee PenisIn the video above, Brandon Moore from Louisiana Tech University is dissecting a freshly dead male alligator. You’re looking at the creature’s underside, near its hip area. As the sequence begins, Moore’s scalpel touches the alligator’s pelvic nerve.www.nationalgeographic.com" ]
Its OverCan you even comprehend having a Girlfriend?
[ "I legit can't imagine it actually being a thing for me. Especially now that I'm in my early 30s. I remember being a kid and assuming by 25 I'd be married with 3 kids and that it was just normal and natural for everyone, not a big deal, just something everyone does by a certain age, just by existing.Then interest from the opposite sex never came, and even as a kid/teen, I didn't even realise that everyone else around me was hooking up, it was as if everyone was keeping it a secret from me, the lack of interest turned to outright ridicule from peers, to the point where I became afraid, anxious and disconnected around people my own age, so I dropped out of society and never went back.I truly believe those formative years can make or break a person.", "I feel the same exact way. I will never understand how relationships happen.", "I pretend my doll is my girlfriend. She is very realistic.She is not like a stiff mannequin, she is very lifelike.I hug her, hold hands with her, stare into her eyes. Dimming the lights adds to the realism.", "anon said:I feel the same exact way. I will never understand how relationships happen.", "Honestly no. Sometimes I wish I still had blind faith like I used to. Then again the pain of being constantly let down destroyed me. I had oneitis a couple years ago. I wonder if I’ll ever have it again.FrustratedWhiteMale said:I pretend my doll is my girlfriend. She is very realistic.She is not like a stiff mannequin, she is very lifelike.I hug her, hold hands with her, stare into her eyes. Dimming the lights adds to the realism.I wonder if you left your doll somewhere if you would have the same feelings that you would for a foid. Like if you left her in a hotel or something. Or if you loaned her out to someone. Do you have more than one?", "VirginAutistManlet said:I legit can't imagine it actually being a thing for me.", "Not a 3D one.I seriously don't understand how it's supposed to happen. It really feels like I'm part of a different species from normies.", "Worst part was being a teen, and normies spotting me out as not having any female interest, and then foids playing games with each other by trolling me into thinking they want to be my GF, or giving fake positive comments and then turning it around and laughing with each other at my expense. This kind of stuff made me incapable of accepting any positive comments, I legit think all positive comments to me are an elaborate troll.Is there such thing as negative self-esteem?", "nope cannot comprehend it happening in my cursed life", "Not even a foid friend at this point", "angrycurrycel said:Not even a foid friend at this pointYeah I can't imagine that either.The only interaction I have with females isParentFormal situations (Receptionist at Doctors Office, Dentist, Psychologist)I have never had informal interaction with a female in my life (32 soon)", "The assholes in my life never give me a chance to prove that I can(atleast I think I can). Now it's just a pipe dream.muh entitlement am I right cucktears ", "Yeah, I wouldn't be able to do it. I'm even shy around my little sister's friends and they're like 10 years old. I wouldn't be able to be naked around my hypothetical girlfriend. I wouldn't be able to lay down next to her to sleep or anything like that. I'd be to self conscious.", "yes, I can comprehend it perfectly. hole, insert cock. the end. that's all a bitch is worth. girlfriend = doing elaborate cuckoldry acts to insert penis in vageenia", "I'm not even really sure how the whole gf thing works. The best I can picture it is as having a bad friend that you can hump every once in a while.", "The only way I can comprehend it is if she comes with a laundry list of mental disorders or some kind of an ulterior motive.", "Imagine a female being attracted to you and wanting to spend time with you for no other reason than she enjoys your company. The transaction of value is nothing more than your time for hers, instead of you trading money and favors for her to pretend she's not repulsed by you. This will never happen for you because you were born with subhuman shit genes, but it happens for most other people.", "LiterallyASoyboy said:It really feels like I'm part of a different species from normies.", "angrycurrycel said:Not even a foid friend at this pointThis. I don't want any foid friends dock, I'm not a cuck orbiter. I just want foids for fucking.", "They are disgusting. Easy for normoids, but for me waifu would be much bigger part of my world. And they to stupid for that, ungtatefullm unloyal, unfaithfull cunts. Only genetically egineeredd loli catgirl for domestic ownership, who cares only about master, can be truly good waifu", "I'm now at the pessimistic point (age 30) where if through some freak incident a foid wanted to be with me, I wouldn't be able to handle it, I wouldn't know what to even do or say, I'd be an emotional retard, acting how a 14 year old boy would with his first girl. Which is fine for a 14 year old boy, cause the girl will be as equally inexperienced, but when you're a grown man it will be humiliating. I would probably even spaz out and reject a girls advances out of fear, or the relationship would collapse within a few weeks after she realises how pathetic and stunted I am. Getting with a girl as an oldcel would be the most meaningful and memorable moment of my life, for the foid it's just a another dick of the dozens shes fucked and the serious LTR's she's been in, she would think wtf is wrong with this guy? It's so so so fucking over.", "No one here can comprehend having a gf, only chad has the luxury of a foid", "it's easy as fuck and a retard could do it, there's people who have gfs and wives and they get so drunk that they shit their fucking pants. and their gfs and wives put up with that and clean up after them and bathe their shitty asses to clean everything upof course i can fucking imagine it you just never get a chance to begin with.", "I can imagine it but it would require me to become a different person for it to really work tbh.", "UglyScotsman said:I'm now at the pessimistic point (age 30) where if through some freak incident a foid wanted to be with me, I wouldn't be able to handle it, I wouldn't know what to even do or say, I'd be an emotional retard, acting how a 14 year old boy would with his first girl. Which is fine for a 14 year old boy, cause the girl will be as equally inexperienced, but when you're a grown man it will be humiliating. I would probably even spaz out and reject a girls advances out of fear, or the relationship would collapse within a few weeks after she realises how pathetic and stunted I am.Getting with a girl as an oldcel would be the most meaningful and memorable moment of my life, for the foid it's just a another dick of the dozens shes fucked and the serious LTR's she's been in, she would think wtf is wrong with this guy?It's so so so fucking over.I told my Clinical Psychologist this exactly this, and she told me she understands, but she had no idea what to say or how to fix it. I like how she is honest about this, instead of being blue-pilled. I know you guys will hate me for seeing a Foid Clinical Psych, but the first 3 Clinical Psychs I had were all men, and they were all literally blue-pilled bro-tier (or CRP tier redpilled) and were much older than me 50+.The Foid Clinical Psych I am seeing is around my age (30) so me being 31 there's no generational gap. Shes working on my Autismbux, and it seems I am Black-Pilling her with everything we talk about.", "No, never. No.", "angrycurrycel said:Not even a foid friend at this pointFoids can't be friends with males.They're vapid, dull holes. They're only beneficial for our sexual satisfaction: beyond that they can't relate to men in any area.", "No. I feel like dating and relationships are part of a completely different world from which I'm permanently excluded.", "FrustratedWhiteMale said:I pretend my doll is my girlfriend. She is very realistic.She is not like a stiff mannequin, she is very lifelike.I hug her, hold hands with her, stare into her eyes. Dimming the lights adds to the realism.", "VirginAutistManlet said:I remember being a kid and assuming by 25 I'd be marriedAt 25 I thought I will be dating... but you know the rest of this story : /", "Hate_my_life said:Foids can't be friends with males.They're vapid, dull holes. They're only beneficial for our sexual satisfaction: beyond that they can't relate to men in any area.Yeah I doubt any would have the same interests as me", "VirginAutistManlet said:I told my Clinical Psychologist this exactly this, and she told me she understands, but she had no idea what to say or how to fix it. I like how she is honest about this, instead of being blue-pilled. I know you guys will hate me for seeing a Foid Clinical Psych, but the first 3 Clinical Psychs I had were all men, and they were all literally blue-pilled bro-tier (or CRP tier redpilled) and were much older than me 50+.The Foid Clinical Psych I am seeing is around my age (30) so me being 31 there's no generational gap. Shes working on my Autismbux, and it seems I am Black-Pilling her with everything we talk about.Oh my god stop being a cuck and don't go to therapy for fucks sakeIt's all conjecture-based bullshit. Therapy won't solve a single problem of yours.As for how I feel:Valiant Virgin said:No. I feel like dating and relationships are part of a completely different world from which I'm permanently excluded.", "I have absolutely no idea what it's like. It sounds like a completely alien fictional experience, as if I were someone reading a fantasy novel or movie. That's how bizarre it sounds to me to have a girlfriend that actually desires me on intimate levels, physically and emotionally.", "ReasonableResolver said:Oh my god stop being a cuck and don't go to therapy for fucks sakeIt's all conjecture-based bullshit. Therapy won't solve a single problem of yours.As for how I feel:Im only going for 2 reasons1. Autismbux2. Gives me someone to talk face to face about the reality of my life, its far more real to me when Im talking to someone face to face in person about it, talking about this stuff online doesn't feel anywhere near as real as in person.", "VirginAutistManlet said:Im only going for 2 reasons1. Autismbux2. Gives me someone to talk face to face about the reality of my life, its far more real to me when Im talking to someone face to face in person about it, talking about this stuff online doesn't feel anywhere near as real as in person.AutismbuxCase made. If you're making money out of it than it's justified. Scratch the 2nd though, as they don't give a flying fuck about you.", "It’s over for many men. Truly sucks. Let’s just hope it isn’t over for you too, man, because that would be some nasty shit.", "KingOfRome said:Imagine a female being attracted to you and wanting to spend time with you for no other reason than she enjoys your company. The transaction of value is nothing more than your time for hers, instead of you trading money and favors for her to pretend she's not repulsed by you. This will never happen for you because you were born with subhuman shit genes, but it happens for most other people.depressing and demotivating knowing there are men who can literally pick who they want.", "VirginAutistManlet said:Worst part was being a teen, and normies spotting me out as not having any female interest, and then foids playing games with each other by trolling me into thinking they want to be my GF, or giving fake positive comments and then turning it around and laughing with each other at my expense.This kind of stuff made me incapable of accepting any positive comments, I legit think all positive comments to me are an elaborate troll.Is there such thing as negative self-esteem?I know your pain bruh I has the exact same stuff happening to me , i guess its just fundamental part of being on the bottom of the dominance hierarchy .I dont trust any positive comments people give me and i dont trust any act of kindness .", "i would short-circuit if a girl asked me out srs. any chance i might have would disappear as soon as she saw me behave like an aspie, low social intelligence freak.thankfully i will never experience such awkwardness as i scare them all away.", "Only in dreams.", "I never thought about it that way, and no I can't even imagine what it's like to have someone care about or love me.", "VirginAutistManlet said:Worst part was being a teen, and normies spotting me out as not having any female interest, and then foids playing games with each other by trolling me into thinking they want to be my GF, or giving fake positive comments and then turning it around and laughing with each other at my expense.Women love to mock ugly men it makes them feel good, almost all did this to me when i was a kid. Women either mock me or ignore me they're only nice if they want something. They're truly vile beings", "A girlfriend seems such a juvenile concept to me now, most other men around my age have grown up kids and are in steady long term relationships.I don't have my youth or good looks, so everything else matters even more. I could maybe get my foot in the door somehow but having no sexual experiences at this age, low paid job, living with family still, its all against me more than ever! ", "low IQ people get into relationships and marriages." ]
SeriousWhat to do if you see your highschool bully?
[ "You walking down the street in the middle of the day and you see your highschool bully.What do you do?Personally i'm probably gonna try and get prepared to fight to the death if he tries to staunch me. I wanna at least castrate him before I die. My chances would be slim since he's 6'4. Should incels carry around knucklebusters for such situations?", "Never really had a single bully it was more so just being fucked with by people in general, hence my fear of people in general.It wasn't the same person, it was more like just being consistently fucked with by everybody.It's not that I can't handle the bants, its just that everybody seems to bants me, but if I try bants them back, I get attacked, so I guess its not really bants. Isn't Bants for people you're already bonded with? So then it's not bants it just fucking with someone for the fun of it. Thats the thing, I guess Im just an easy target for people to fuck with, but then if I ever fight back or say shit back, suddenly I'm the bad/crazy one.", "Make him lose balance and make him hit his head on the curb", "VirginAutistManlet said:Never really had a single bully it was more so just being fucked with people in general, hence my fear of people in general.It wasn't the same person, it was more like just being consistently fucked with by everybody.It's not that I can't handle the bants, its just that everybody seems to bants me, but if I try bants them back, I get attacked, so I guess its not really bants. Isn't Bants for people you're already bonded with? So then it's not bants it just fucking with someone for the fun of it. Thats the thing, I guess Im just an easy target for people to fuck with, but then if I ever fight back or say shit back, suddenly I'm the bad/crazy one.Can relate", "VirginAutistManlet said:Never really had a single bully it was more so just being fucked with by people in general, hence my fear of people in general.It wasn't the same person, it was more like just being consistently fucked with by everybody.This was my situation as well but I remember most of the people who wronged me and in a realistic setting I’d probably step on their foot. Most of them wouldn’t do anything and the others I could provoke into a confrontation. The possibilities for victory are endless in that scenario", "VirginAutistManlet said:Never really had a single bully it was more so just being fucked with by people in general, hence my fear of people in general.It wasn't the same person, it was more like just being consistently fucked with by everybody.It's not that I can't handle the bants, its just that everybody seems to bants me, but if I try bants them back, I get attacked, so I guess its not really bants. Isn't Bants for people you're already bonded with? So then it's not bants it just fucking with someone for the fun of it. Thats the thing, I guess Im just an easy target for people to fuck with, but then if I ever fight back or say shit back, suddenly I'm the bad/crazy one.", "Dont know about his physical and social abilities now. Then I was stronger, but he had bigger backup of friends", "Nothing bro he won't recognize me my face changed too much (for the worse).", "It has happened to me like three years ago, I ignored him. I wanted to kick the back of his head (he was sitting down), but it's not worth the consequences.", "VirginAutistManlet said:Never really had a single bully it was more so just being fucked with by people in general, hence my fear of people in general.It wasn't the same person, it was more like just being consistently fucked with by everybody.It's not that I can't handle the bants, its just that everybody seems to bants me, but if I try bants them back, I get attacked, so I guess its not really bants. Isn't Bants for people you're already bonded with? So then it's not bants it just fucking with someone for the fun of it. Thats the thing, I guess Im just an easy target for people to fuck with, but then if I ever fight back or say shit back, suddenly I'm the bad/crazy one.", "VirginAutistManlet said:Never really had a single bully it was more so just being fucked with by people in general, hence my fear of people in general.It wasn't the same person, it was more like just being consistently fucked with by everybody.It's not that I can't handle the bants, its just that everybody seems to bants me, but if I try bants them back, I get attacked, so I guess its not really bants. Isn't Bants for people you're already bonded with? So then it's not bants it just fucking with someone for the fun of it. Thats the thing, I guess Im just an easy target for people to fuck with, but then if I ever fight back or say shit back, suddenly I'm the bad/crazy one.Shut the fuck up and fight back you bitch. Thats what i did, cost me a week in the slammer but that fucker sure wont bully me again", "VirginAutistManlet said:Never really had a single bully it was more so just being fucked with by people in general, hence my fear of people in general.It wasn't the same person, it was more like just being consistently fucked with by everybody.It's not that I can't handle the bants, its just that everybody seems to bants me, but if I try bants them back, I get attacked, so I guess its not really bants. Isn't Bants for people you're already bonded with? So then it's not bants it just fucking with someone for the fun of it. Thats the thing, I guess Im just an easy target for people to fuck with, but then if I ever fight back or say shit back, suddenly I'm the bad/crazy one.Yeah i was never fucked by one or two guys, it was mostly everyone wanted to try me in some way or another. Although there are some specific people who took it a step further into physical bullying that honestly I would hope would die of brain cancer.", "arabce1 said:Should incels carry around knucklebusters for such situations?I usually carry a spring-loaded flip knife", "Saw mine ar Kroger the other day. The most annoying part is you know you could kill them easily, but the KKKuck pig cops would send you to jail, because defending yourself is a crime in the Jewnited States of America. And then the faggot gets to reap the the pussy and glory and I am subjugated to a life of a misery. Another one who thought he was better than me because he was rich wasshot in the head by a black guy and killed not too long ago which is lifefuel, because I was raised in squalor in the ghetto with black people. I love to see the white beckys who sided with him crying over his death while im sitting here laughing like whos the dumbass now.", "squirrelsonfire2 said:Saw mine ar Kroger the other day. The most annoying part is you know you could kill them easily, but the KKKuck pig cops would send you to jail, because defending yourself is a crime in the Jewnited States of America. And then the faggot gets to reap the the pussy and glory and I am subjugated to a life of a misery. Another one who thought he was better than me because he was rich wasshot in the head by a black guy and killed not too long ago which is lifefuel, because I was raised in squalor in the ghetto with black people. I love to see the white beckys who sided with him crying over his death while im sitting here laughing like whos the dumbass now.revenge is propably one of the best feels i swear", "Izayacel said:revenge is propably one of the best feels i swearYes kind of copey though, since his short life was 100x more worth living than mine probably will ever be", "Ignore him, like any other stranger", "I would just laugh at their pathetic wageslave lives.", "Mainländer said:It has happened to me like three years ago, I ignored him. I wanted to kick the back of his head (he was sitting down), but it's not worth the consequences.high T you should reproduce", "Throw something at him to grab his attention.", "He died already, I so would probably grab a flamethrower.", "I got revenge on mine when I grew bigger than him.", "A lot of my bullies were subhumans themselves so probably nothing.", "nothing would happen they would probably not even remember me", "VirginAutistManlet said:Never really had a single bully it was more so just being fucked with by people in general, hence my fear of people in general.It wasn't the same person, it was more like just being consistently fucked with by everybody.It's not that I can't handle the bants, its just that everybody seems to bants me, but if I try bants them back, I get attacked, so I guess its not really bants. Isn't Bants for people you're already bonded with? So then it's not bants it just fucking with someone for the fun of it. Thats the thing, I guess Im just an easy target for people to fuck with, but then if I ever fight back or say shit back, suddenly I'm the bad/crazy one.This. If you were bullied by just one guy/gal instead of a conglomerate of people you can't possibly recognize, you're a fakecel.Spoilerhyperbole obv", "If I was with friends and he called me out, I would use it as a way to humiliate himI had someone who pissed me of in college , He is 5 foot 6 and Pakistani, probably call him inbred and short", "VirginAutistManlet said:Thats the thing, I guess Im just an easy target for people to fuck with, but then if I ever fight back or say shit back, suddenly I'm the bad/crazy one.", "I'd end up doing life in prison.", "Beat the shit out of them, torture (if you want). Nothing stopped them back then, nobody should stop you now.AmIjustDreaming said:I'd end up doing life in prison.", "Napoleon de Geso said:Dont know about his physical and social abilities now. Then I was stronger, but he had bigger backup of friends", "probably wouldn't regonsie them due to my memory being so shit but if I did I'd probably try to avoid them like I avoid everyone when outside.", "Probably fantasise all kinds of shit in my head but keep my head down and avoid him/her while my hearts starts pounding in fear like the pathetic low t coward I am.", "Was thinking about one of my former school bully recently. I assumed at age 40 he would have a family by now, so to fuck him up properly, his offspring would need to become the target." ]
BlackpillJust look at who the Princess Of Norway is in love with...?
[ "She’s an ACTUAL PRINCESS and a Scandinavian Stacy. But look who she has settled for?I’ll just leave this here for others to figure out. Princess Martha Louise of Norway reveals new romance with American boyfriend: ‘I am so happy and blessed’Princess Martha Louise of Norway is showing the world her new romance.www.foxnews.com", "BBC Theory confirmed.", "JUST BE BLACK AND MARRY INTO ROYALTY ", "White woman and black man is the new standard.", "Just shamanmaxx bro", "BBC deniers ain't touching this one. If you're black or mixed with black. Lmao at not race bating a white foid with your exotic looks.What make her a princess anyways? Being filthy rich? , how does a noble family title even work these days with all these whores? The corporates are the only true Kings /lord/pharaohs of our times. The rest is a distraction.", "He has the most profound wisdom to share and all the bits in between from the diversity of his being Shaman Durek is merely a man I love spending my time with and who fulfills me... with his BBC.Love for holes = tall men with big dicks. Even better if they're foreign.", "Algeriancel said:BBC deniers ain't touching this one. If you're black or mixed with black. Lmao at not race bating a white foid with your exotic looks.What make her a princess anyways? Being filthy rich? , how does a noble family title even work these days with all these whores? The corporates are the only true Kings /lord/pharaohs of our times. The rest is a distraction.Just being born into a royal family makes the roastie a princess. She has done fuck all to earn the spot, she is a useless, bbc sucking parasite.", "JFL, Norway is getting cucked by Tyrone.", "PowerLevelCel said:Norway is getting cucked by Tyrone.", "Hope that coal burner pays the toal", "Hungry Hungry Hindu said:BBC Theory confirmed.Sperglord said:JUST BE BLACK AND MARRY INTO ROYALTY Ahh the BBC spammers are out in full force ITT, yet the other threads where foids openly expressed their hatred towards us ethnics, they were nowhere to be seen.Also for the last fucking time: Posting a TYRONE is not proof of JBB.Algeriancel said:BBC deniers ain't touching this one. If you're black or mixed with black. Lmao at not race bating a white foid with your exotic looks.All foids I've approached have been ethnic.In what world would being ethnic improve my SMV if my own kind doesn't even want me?", "MayorOfKekville said:She’s an ACTUAL PRINCESS and a Scandinavian Stacy. But look who she has settled for?I’ll just leave this here for others to figure out.Princess Martha Louise of Norway reveals new romance with American boyfriend: ‘I am so happy and blessed’Princess Martha Louise of Norway is showing the world her new romance.www.foxnews.comJFL @ calling that thing a stacy.", "Master said:Tyrone wins again", "MayorOfKekville said:She’s an ACTUAL PRINCESS and a Scandinavian Stacy. But look who she has settled for?I’ll just leave this here for others to figure out.Princess Martha Louise of Norway reveals new romance with American boyfriend: ‘I am so happy and blessed’Princess Martha Louise of Norway is showing the world her new romance.www.foxnews.com47 years old", "lmfao shes 47 aka post wall. She also has kids too", "Mass report to your thread. It'll be deleted in the next minutes.", "MSCW said:Mass report to your thread. It'll be deleted in the next minutes.Hope OP gets banned for cherry picking.", "Hate_my_life said:All foids I've approached have been ethnic.I explicitly said white foids", "Just be statistical outlier bro, works every time", "Algeriancel said:I explicitly said white foidsOh because I'd have better odds with white foids.", "Hate_my_life said:Oh because I'd have better odds with white foids.Volcel if you never tried", "Hungry Hungry Hindu said:BBC Theory confirmed.", "DaveBuster said:Just shamanmaxx bro", "Blackpill Rage said:JFL @ calling that thing a stacy.She's almost 50, post wall Stacy.", "Scandinavian foid in action doing what they all do here", "Algeriancel said:Volcel if you never triedWhat use is there trying?I've seen the disgust on foids' face when I'm sat on the back of the bus and they want to sit down but the only seats available are the ones next to me.", "angrycurrycel said:lmfao shes 47 aka post wall. She also has kids tooI would've taken her - even if she was broke.", "black guy marries 50 year old single mom BBC theory confirmed", "Hate_my_life said:What use is there trying?I've seen the disgust on foids' face when I'm sat on the back of the bus and they want to sit down but the only seats available are the ones next to me.White foids?. Why didn't you ask them out?. it's a win win situation for you if it's really over. You shouldn't be bothered if they reject you because you never had hope to begin with. And on the other hand you get to make her more disgusted and angry. Even play the race card if you can. Make a scene. If I were mixed or black in the western world I'd ascend in no time.mylifeistrash said:black guy marries 50 year old single momBBC theory confirmedYou take what you can get.", "Holy shit dude is not even Tyrone it's so fucking over everyone on suicide watch", "mylifeistrash said:black guy marries 50 year old single momBBC theory confirmedLol", "Just be BBC theory.", "Is the CuckTuber BasedShamen their kid who travelled from the future to make fun of us ?", "I hope that cunt dies", "we", "JFL. Norway is the most cucked place on earth. Full of cucks fat soycucks. I pitty the nordiccels, they did not deserve this", "Lmao at minority incels on this forum.Okay maybe asians but black and arab incels? No such thing.", "Master said:Def not a stacy. Tyrone wins again, of course.zangano1 said:JFL. Norway is the most cucked place on earth. Full of cucks fat soycucks. I pitty the nordiccels, they did not deserve thisCuyen said:Holy shit dude is not even Tyrone it's so fucking over everyone on suicide watchmylifeistrash said:black guy marries 50 year old single momBBC theory confirmed", "In true black guy - white woman fashion, how long before we see her having a black eye, pregnant and Shaman out the door just going for cigarettes?", "FrustratedWhiteMale said:I would've taken her - even if she was broke.You'd take anything.", "Just be black comfirmed", "MayorOfKekville said:She’s an ACTUAL PRINCESS and a Scandinavian Stacy. But look who she has settled for?I’ll just leave this here for others to figure out.Princess Martha Louise of Norway reveals new romance with American boyfriend: ‘I am so happy and blessed’Princess Martha Louise of Norway is showing the world her new romance.www.foxnews.comtyronelite at leastalso hes pretty tall, id say at least 6,2fthe worked as a modelso yeah, she married a tyrone, so what?even if im against interracial dating if the female is white, its ok.", "blockhead24 said:even if im against interracial dating if the female is white, its ok.If the Male is White, then inter-racial dating is OK.", "Blacks are gonna replace us pretty soon", "There is no limit for JBB", "blockhead24 said:even if im against interracial dating if the female is white, its ok.That's self contradiction. Are you against OR with intershite?", "JFL too much to be discussed but I'm not sure which one is more important. Tyrone marrying a divorced single mother of 3 or a Viking princess marrying BBC. Ragnar and Harald would be rolling in their graves", "She settled for a cuck.He is her cuck. Married with kids and postwall、he is a capn save a hoe", "Algeriancel said:That's self contradiction. Are you against OR with intershite?AgainstThe ok is difficult to type with my intent I guess that this describes it the bestFrustratedWhiteMale said:If the Male is White, then inter-racial dating is OK.Yes, this Typo A white man can fuck or date any other race but a white foid should only be able to date a white man", "I’m surprised this dumb thread is still up", "Ugly roastie anyway, but still disgusting to make this bad example", "When you are a female born into royalty, you can afford a low-iq negro to dick you.", "typical scandicuck shenanigans", "Disgusting. Race mixers should be PURGED from this Earth. One by one.", "MayorOfKekville said:a Scandinavian StacyYou’re kidding right", "The only legit racecopers are currycels and ricecels. I refuse to think a blackcel can exist.", "It reminds me of Gad Elmaleh that knocked up the daughter of Caroline princess of Hanover.The gym teacher that fucked Victoria princess of Sweden.", "Deleted member 1252 said:She’s an ACTUAL PRINCESS and a Scandinavian Stacy. But look who she has settled for?I’ll just leave this here for others to figure out.Princess Martha Louise of Norway reveals new romance with American boyfriend: ‘I am so happy and blessed’Princess Martha Louise of Norway is showing the world her new romance.www.foxnews.comWe should be waiting for her first Blacked.com scene.", "Deleted member 17883 said:The corporates are the only true Kings /lord/pharaohs of our times. The rest is a distraction.Well said.", "Braincel14w said:He has the most profound wisdom to share and all the bits in between from the diversity of his being Shaman Durek is merely a man I love spending my time with and who fulfills me... with his BBC.Love for holes = tall men with big dicks. Even better if they're foreign.", "Deleted member 17599 said:JFL, Norway is getting cucked by Tyrone.", "FrustratedWhiteMale said:I would've taken her - even if she was broke.", "Deleted member 1252 said:She’s an ACTUAL PRINCESS and a Scandinavian Stacy. But look who she has settled for?I’ll just leave this here for others to figure out.Princess Martha Louise of Norway reveals new romance with American boyfriend: ‘I am so happy and blessed’Princess Martha Louise of Norway is showing the world her new romance.www.foxnews.comI remember reading a story about an Egyptian Muslim man marrying a Danish princess/royal family member ,but I can't remember their names rnPut in mind that Denmark is one of the most anti-Muslim pigskin shitholes in the world LMAO" ]
SuicideFuelSmall penises dont please Stacy.
[ "For those that have a short penis, it's over. Even if we ascend, women will not accept a penis smaller than 4 inches. It's simply nothing compared to chad or Tyrone. They say size doesn't matter, but won't date men with a smaller penis.", "Suicide fuel for @outherebrothers", "Sub 6/10 males don't please foids anyways.It's over unless you are a fakecel", "ZhamgAsherTeo said:They say size doesn't matter, but won't date men with a smaller penis.They who say that are bluepilled coping dicklets, of course size matters but that doesn't mean at the same time you need a 18 inch penis though", "Stacies would rather fuck horses than men with small dicks.", "TheGambler2 said:Sub 6/10 males don't please foids anyways.It's over unless you are a fakecel", "Im in the average size range i guess and sometimes i feel okay THEN i see foids using a god damn 7 inch GIRTH dildo or DOUBLE dildos.", "Damo the incel said:Suicide fuel for @outherebrothers", "It's normies problem though. As incel you only have to worry about this when you go to hooker.", "RopeIsMyLove said:It's normies problem though. As incel you only have to worry about this when you go to hooker.do you look at guy girl porn or porn when the foids pulls out a large dildo? tell me how you block comparing the size out of your mind? are you average or small?", "Haywire said:do you look at guy girl porn or porn when the foids pulls out a large dildo?I try to stay away from porn as possible.Haywire said:tell me how you block comparing the size out of your mind?Dick size is a minor problem compare to my others: height, autism, ugly face,NWO1.If I would be able to fix those then I would be worrying about my dick size.", "Yeah because I'm so concerned with what Stacey is pleased with", "Humans drink water.", "Blackpilled Penis size chart (female gaze only, suicide warning)looksmax.org[warning]View: Attraction contestant wont sleep with man with penis smaller than iPhoneA solid nine inches...metro.co.ukAlmost 200 Pornstars Say Size Matters (Brutal dickpill)Alphabetical by first name A Aali Kali I like big cocks. Abella Danger I love being contracted to Brazzers because they’re size queens like me and only book me with big dicks. View...incels.isView: is LAW Megathread (sub-7 suifuel)Big dick = easy FWB relationship Guy records making a woman cum 14 times from his dick (audio now gone but thread is still up) Women are constantly gossiping about dick size Perfect guy with 4-5 dick = over. Also says that if you have a small dick thats all they will talk about...looksmax.orgINSANE DICKPILL REDDIT POSTS - 7 IS AVERAGE [SUIFUEL FOR RICECELS, BWC/BBC THEORY CONFIRMED] BIGGEST DICKPILL IN PSL HISTORY - GTFIHAsians as a race are hard-capped at 6.7 which we will see below, is average among some white/black populations. THERE IS MAYBE A HANDFUL OF CHINESE/KOREAN GUYS WITH 7+ DICKS IN THEIR ENTIRE COUNTRIES. A comprehensive, prospective study of penile dimensions in Chinese men of multiple...looksmax.org", "oZhamgAsherTeo said:For those that have a short penis, it's over. Even if we ascend, women will not accept a penis smaller than 4 inches. It's simply nothing compared to chad or Tyrone. They say size doesn't matter, but won't date men with a smaller penisyes they will. i used to know a blonde chad with a 4.5 inch penis and women would talk about it, but they still loved him", "nohope. said:oyes they will. i used to know a blonde chad with a 4.5 inch penis and women would talk about it, but they still loved himJust use dildo on her theory", "with the whale sour nowadays would need 7 just to get past the fat rolls", "I’m only 6 and a half It’s over", "ShadowSunshine88 said:Just use dildo on her theoryidk how he pleased them tbh. maybe he did fingering or some shit like that. or maybe he used a penis extender", "AcidTrip said:I’m only 6 and a half It’s overthat’s above average", "ZhamgAsherTeo said:women will not accept a penis smaller than 4 inches.You mean 7 inches. And even then she'll fantasize about Chad's 8 inch", "Haywire said:Im in the average size range i guess and sometimes i feel okay THEN i see foids using a god damn 7 inch GIRTH dildo or DOUBLE dildos.", "AcidTrip said:I’m only 6 and a half It’s overI'm the same size. So close yet so far." ]
RageFuelWho the fuck cares if you are KHHV, KHV, KV. Fact is we are all virgin.
[ "Only thing that matters is losing your virginity.There is a reason why “V” is in all those acronyms. Nobody complains KHh, KH, k.If you lost your virginity then other things don’t matter.Tired of ppl 1upping each other", "HighTGymcel said: 116642damn, source?", "I have to defend elitecelism.Well it does make a difference. A 28 y/o kissless hugless handholdless virgin(KHHV) such as my self, has suffered far more than just a regular virgin...I mean if you made out with a girl, I almost don't consider you a virgin, since you shared a very close form of intimacy with a female, even if it did not lead to penetration. You have been recognized and validated by a female, even if it wasn't through penetration.Someone like me(KHHV) has zero experiences with women. I've never been touched, recognized, I have been completely pushed out of society . The type of pain I experience you regular KV could never understand.Being a KHHV is the ultimate standard, the ideal incel, someone who never experienced any form of recognition. Someone completely removed from the fabric of society and from humanity. I think only a KHHV could ever truly be blackpilled.", "I think there is a huge difference between a V and a KHHV. I don't mind people using the distinction.", "KTHHV&TFO3Y checking in.Also chances are OP, if someone has been able to Kiss and Hug a foid: they're most likely not Involuntarily Celibate.", "Reddit_is_for_cucks said:Tired of ppl 1upping each otherAgreed, that's why I try not to engage in it, and will generally just cede if someone tries to one up me. Okay bro, I admit it, you're a bigger incel than me. Happy now? Does that make you feel good?Too much time is wasted on dividing 'cels, just like too much time is wasted dividing blackpillers/anti-NPCers in general. This division helps and supports the ruling class.", "Don't trivialize suffering of other incels, every additional letter to V is another layer of suffering and humiliation.", "mylifeistrash said:damn, source?dont know bro found it on google pictures", "I don't know how some people get so lucky to be able to kiss a girl", "Vermilioncore said:I don't know how some people get so lucky to be able to kiss a girlGet drunk and go to a party will happen eventually", "No manI've never held hands or hugged romanticallyNever kissedThose things are very important too, not just sex", "Reddit_is_for_cucks said:Get drunk and go to a party will happen eventuallyIt looks like you have some experience in that field ", "There are people here who claim that you can be incel without the V", "HighTGymcel said:", "only low IQ brainlets actually gaf about that", "im khhv ", "I couldn't tell you if there is an actual difference, as I've only ever been a khhv. However I do fantasize about kissing and cuddling a lot.", "Cope. Escortcels aren't virgins.", "im KHHV. I wouldnt even mind a kiss at this point or hug.", "Only fakecel normgroids like OP complain about this. If a girl kissed you it means you don't belong here.", "The more letters you lose, the closer you are to losing that V.", "A hug from any female would be nice.", "Vermilioncore said:I don't know how some people get so lucky to be able to kiss a girlYeah you can kiss some desperate fat bitch in a club in exchange for buying her drinks its nothing to be proud of. It's the ultimate form of disgusting soyboys.", "Total Imbecile said:There are people here who claim that you can be incel without the VYes and they are retards. Dry spells > Dry your whole fucking life(obviously I'm referring to genuine sex not escortcels).", "Tempus Edax Rerum said:.I mean if you made out with a girl, I almost don't consider you a virgin, since you shared a very close form of intimacy with a female, even if it did not lead to penetration.", "Nah, if you've kissed and hugged before, you already have gotten further than those who haven't. So it is important and an indicator as to how bad your incelibacy is.", "MarriedAndLookin4Fun said: 116665Why did he dab lmaoanon said:Only fakecel normgroids like OP complain about this. If a girl kissed you it means you don't belong here.Celibacy has nothing to do with kissing, it’s all about losing your virginity.", "Reddit_is_for_cucks said:Why did he dab lmaoCelibacy has nothing to do with kissing, it’s all about losing your virginity.I dont know man, kissing a girl is very fakecely", "Reddit_is_for_cucks said:Get drunk and go to a party will happen eventuallyThe last time I went to a party was like 6 months ago, all I did was sit in a corner and scroll through my phone. I had high hopes that I might be able to make out with a drunk foid, I wasn't even able to talk to one in the end.Total Imbecile said:I dont know man, kissing a girl is very fakecelyYeah, becaues you can't be fucking ugly if you're able to kiss a girl.But you can be ugly to hug a girl (a pity hug) or even to hold a girls hand. But I really doubt that a girl is going to make out with you if you're 5'6 and fucking ugly.", "I see your point but not everyone here is a virgin, like the topic title implies. There are members on the forum who had sex in the past and as far as I know, you can still be incel if you’re not a virgin as long as the sex was 6 months back or more and if you’re no longer able to receive any type of female attention. Etc.", "-BrettyBoy- said:I see your point but not everyone here is a virgin, like the topic title implies. There are members on the forum who had sex in the past and as far as I know, you can still be incel if you’re not a virgin as long as the sex was 6 months back or more and if you’re no longer able to receive any type of female attention. Etc.I envy anyone who has had sex (escort sex even)", "Vermilioncore said:I envy anyone who has had sex (escort sex even)Fair enough.", "KHHV's me", "I don’t like the 6 months rule used to define inceldom. You need to be a virgin at least to be an incel.", "yes, i am only virgin, hellish and infernal doom upon me, unluckyi​", "Tempus Edax Rerum said:I have to defend elitecelism.Well it does make a difference. A 28 y/o kissless hugless handholdless virgin(KHHV) such as my self, has suffered far more than just a regular virgin...I mean if you made out with a girl, I almost don't consider you a virgin, since you shared a very close form of intimacy with a female, even if it did not lead to penetration. You have been recognized and validated by a female, even if it wasn't through penetration.Someone like me(KHHV) has zero experiences with women. I've never been touched, recognized, I have been completely pushed out of society . The type of pain I experience you regular KV could never understand.Being a KHHV is the ultimate standard, the ideal incel, someone who never experienced any form of recognition. Someone completely removed from the fabric of society and from humanity. I think only a KHHV could ever truly be blackpilled.I’ve escortcelled more times than I can count with 14 or 15 different whores so I am still virgin or not? Never had unpaid intimacy or sex with a female ", "i am not a virgin ", "Reddit_is_for_cucks said:Only thing that matters is losing your virginity.There is a reason why “V” is in all those acronyms. Nobody complains KHh, KH, k.If you lost your virginity then other things don’t matter.Tired of ppl 1upping each otherExcept for the fakecels around", "Salustio said:I don’t like the 6 months rule used to define inceldom.You need to be a virgin at least to be an incel.It should be a 6 years rule", "calimero said:It should be a 6 years rulei just realized you came back after a long ass hiatus", "SlayerSlayer said:i just realized you came back after a long ass hiatusI got paranoid after an IT post about me so I deleted my account, and then I was also admitted in a mental asylum. And after that I came back yeah because im still conpletely alone", "Vermilioncore said:I don't know how some people get so lucky to be able to kiss a girlCertain drugs and medications cause disinhibition, such as benzodiazepines. If you're ever in a mental ward as a patient, you might happen upon a woman you can talk to a bit and when she gets her daily dose of benzos she may be very willing to cuddle and kiss. Just as a hypothetical scenario, nobody should ever drug a girl to get her into bed, that shit will send you to prison for a looooooooooooooooong time. Never worth it.", "Is it too much to ask for a French kiss from a Stacy?", "RuudVanNistelrooy said:Is it too much to ask for a hug from a 4/10Corrected it for you", "Tempus Edax Rerum said:I have to defend elitecelism.Well it does make a difference. A 28 y/o kissless hugless handholdless virgin(KHHV) such as my self, has suffered far more than just a regular virgin...I mean if you made out with a girl, I almost don't consider you a virgin, since you shared a very close form of intimacy with a female, even if it did not lead to penetration. You have been recognized and validated by a female, even if it wasn't through penetration.Someone like me(KHHV) has zero experiences with women. I've never been touched, recognized, I have been completely pushed out of society . The type of pain I experience you regular KV could never understand.Being a KHHV is the ultimate standard, the ideal incel, someone who never experienced any form of recognition. Someone completely removed from the fabric of society and from humanity. I think only a KHHV could ever truly be blackpilled.", "Let’s be frank if you can get someone to kiss you, to hug you and to hold your hand then there’s a BIG BIG chance you can ascend/ you don’t even bother at all." ]
this site sucks
[ "i hate it. no notifications. i feel like im talking to no one. its over", "we have notifications, retardcel", "torujo said:we have notifications, retardcelo shit ur rite my bad", "......", "...", "Oh fuck I remember this cuck. This is from that epic video (was it a Trump protest?) that spawned a million meme images, and basically started the entire woke liberal movement.Carl the Cuck and AIDS SkrillexCarl the Cuck and AIDS Skrillex are nicknames given to two unidentified young men featured in a viral video depicting a clash between supporters of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump and anti-Trump demonstrators. After clips of the two protesters began circulating on 4chan’s /pol/...knowyourmeme.com", "nov8 niggers be like", "Why are you niggas replying to a completely irrelevant thread from 2017? ", "MillionBashStream97 said:Why are you niggas replying to a completely irrelevant thread from 2017? truecel trait: necroposting", "MillionBashStream97 said:Why are you niggas replying to a completely irrelevant thread from 2017? just a Intellau _ Celistic thing", "InMemoriam said:just a Intellau _ Celistic thingAh yeah, just noticed...", "Intellau_Celistic said: 867349 867350 867351 867352... 867353 867354 867355... 867356 867357" ]
BlackpillThe Ironic Effects Of Modern Day Feminism On Womens Lives
[ "1. The #MeToo movement has made men as a collective less trusting of women, and begin to hate them. With it becoming common practice in the work place for men in managerial positions to avoid being alone in a room with a woman, and to avoid mentoring female workers, so ironically feminists have helped reinforce the glass ceiling they like to talk about2. The effect of feminism on advocating for the rights of other protected special groups has led to the transgender movement, and now women are facing the problem of MtF trans dominating them in the sports world, taking their awards, world records, scholarships, heck a fucking man (Bruce Jenner) got the woman of the year award in 2015, I'm betting that was the moment they knew they fucked up Which reminds me, this needs to be a focus for incels: just passed in the U.S. house of representatives3. The current one they are doing is the #SexStrike, this one is extremely ironic, because the very proposition is an admission that women are in fact aware and complicit in them being sexualized and objectified, and only have a problem with it, when it doesn't suit their own goals. Its an admission that women are only worth their holes, and feminists ironically don't seem to get that, it is also an admission that women have a monopoly over sexual resources and they do and have always restricted access to it to blackmail men into doing what they wantThere are so many layers of irony in this one, they are doing a sex strike against abortion laws. So they are refusing to have sex (prevents you from getting pregnant) because they aren't allowed to get an abortion (terminate a pregnancy). Makes perfect sense to a woman I guess. That would be like if guns were banned, and gun users did a gun strike and refused to by guns in protest against the gun ban, the other side literally would not care because you would be helping them, because from their perspective less people buying guns equals less gun deaths, same with abortions, less people having sex equals less abortionsWe all know that sex strike doesn't include high status males though, especially Chad, they will ironically just turn more blue pilled normie males into incels, and they'll start looking into the red pill, and find their way to the black pillGod damn women are fucking stupid, no foresight at all, its like they think nothing through, worst planners in existence. No logic at all, every act is like an impulse, virtually no thought goes into it.", "Foids don't think logically, they think emotionally. Which isn't needed in this society but they're trying to push their bullshit beliefs onto society. Unfortunately, it is working. (somehow)", "seija said:Unfortunately, it is working. (somehow)Its working because they are applying the same tactics on a larger scale that they are applying on point #3 in my post, using sex as a bargaining chip, utilizing the monopoly they have over sexual resources to strongarm society (the male collective) into letting them have their way, truth is women don't even have to be explicit about it, its implict by default, the very nature of the interaction between males and females implies that if men as a collective don't go along with certain rules women want, women as a collective will deny the male collective access to sex.", "seija said:Foids don't think logically, they think emotionally.That's really why they can't be trusted with anything. Their fragile feelings and small brains leads to sit around and bitch all day. Truly a waste of cells.", "BlkPillPres said:Its working because they are applying the same tactics on a larger scale that they are applying on point #3 in my post, using sex as a bargaining chip, utilizing the monopoly they have over sexual resources to strongarm society (the male collective) into letting them have their way, truth is women don't even have to be explicit about it, its implict by default, the very nature of the interaction between males and females implies that if men as a collective don't go along with certain rules women want, women as a collective will deny the male collective access to sex.I completely agree with this post. Women had nothing to offer men but sex & their bodies since the beginning of time and the beginning of mankind.", "#SexstrikeAKA: We LARP Ancient Greek history in order to try and seem intelligent because we have no original ideas of ur own", "“Every time I go to sleep and wake up, there is a new law in a state around us that is either restricting abortion further or essentially banning it,” she said. “If you told me this was going to happen a year ago, I would not have believed it.” --Dr. Erin King -- New York TimesFinally, stacies and beckies might have to access the brain matter outside of their lizard/reptilian brain before opening their legs up to Chads, Thugs, and Tyrones.", "Yeah agreed" ]
BlackpillTherapy Is For Illogical NPCs
[ "Therapy is a meme, paying a psychiatrist is literally paying someone to help you be honest with yourself and admit shortcomings and fears ABOUT YOURSELF TO YOURSELF.Can't you just save your money and do that shit by talking to yourself, if you need a therapist its likely a clear sign that you are a very dishonest person, so dishonest that you have to put yourself in a room with someone, who has to play mind games to coax you into being honest with yourself, its REALLY WEIRD when you think about it and look at it from an outside looking in perspective. If you are a logical person, and I believe black pillers are such people, can't you just rationalize these things yourself, can't you just come to these realizations yourself and not have to pay someone to trick you into doing it, its a waste of money.Therapy is useless period, and its only helpful for dishonest people who lack the ability to think introspectively and admit their own shortcomings to themselves, a therapy session is literally someone being paid to push you to be introspective JFL, if you need therapy then ironically therapy won't help you, because it isn't fixing the CORE PROBLEMS you have;Lacking the ability to think introspectivelyLacking self awarenessDishonestyEgoism (which prevents you from being honest with yourself)Emotional thought-frames and perspectives (which prevent you from thinking rationally)EtcTherapy is an unnecessary treatment, rather than the cure it is purported asTherapy is you paying someone to help you do something YOU NEED TO LEARN TO DO ON YOUR OWNTherapy is someone giving you a fish, rather than teaching you how to fish, these people don't train you on how you should think, their job is to help you arrive upon certain specific thoughts and realizations tailored to your life problems, so you will basically always be dependent on them. So when a new problem pops up that is a source of mental stress, off you go back to your therapist to be granted another revelation, something you could have done yourself by thinking a little.Last but not least, therapists are required under law to report on the mental health of their clients, and report to various authorities if they believe that person is a threat to themselves or others, so an incel going to a therapist to talking about their lives, in this day and age where sexually frustrated men are hated and feared as potential mass shooters, is a fucking idiot.I could not trust anyone who is undergoing or has undergone therapy with my life or anything for that matter, because that person is someone so dishonest, that they had to be coerced into being honest with themselves, that is a scary level of dishonesty, as that person essentially cannot trust themselves. On top of that, they lack self awareness, and the ability to be introspective, such a person would only impede my success if I involve them in my life, or worse yet destroy my success or possibly inconvenience my life, maybe even be the cause of my death", "Therapy does not work, if you tell a therapist what actually goes on in your head, you will most likely get shipped off to an asylum.", "ElliotRodgerGod said:Therapy does not work, if you tell a therapist what actually goes on in your head, you will most likely get shipped off to an asylum.Exactly, therapy is not something crafted to work, but to legally extort money and more importantly, control people. It's hilarious the fact that I observed some based friends of mine mindmog your run of the mill psychologist, when it comes to talking about an issue. Therapy solves nothing.There's no psychological counselling for your face. There's no rehabilitation for your genes.There's no conflict management for your looks.", "What therapy will ever work? As far as I know there is no therapy for your face.", "Why pay for a therapist when you could pay an escort who you can use as a GFE therapist while cuddling and fucking? They're probably close to the same price anyway.", "BodyFat10orRope said:Why pay for a therapist when you could pay an escort who you can use as a GFE therapist while cuddling and fucking? They're probably close to the same price anyway.High iq.", "BlkPillPres said:Therapy is a meme, paying a psychiatrist is literally paying someone to help you be honest with yourself and admit shortcomings and fears ABOUT YOURSELF TO YOURSELF.Can't you just save your money and do that shit by talking to yourself, if you need a therapist its likely a clear sign that you are a very dishonest person, so dishonest that you have to put yourself in a room with someone, who has to play mind games to coax you into being honest with yourself, its REALLY WEIRD when you think about it and look at it from an outside looking in perspective. If you are a logical person, and I believe black pillers are such people, can't you just rationalize these things yourself, can't you just come to these realizations yourself and not have to pay someone to trick you into doing it, its a waste of money.Therapy is useless period, and its only helpful for dishonest people who lack the ability to think introspectively and admit their own shortcomings to themselves, a therapy session is literally someone being paid to push you to be introspective JFL, if you need therapy then ironically therapy won't help you, because it isn't fixing the CORE PROBLEMS you have;Lacking the ability to think introspectivelyLacking self awarenessDishonestyEgoism (which prevents you from being honest with yourself)Emotional thought-frames and perspectives (which prevent you from thinking rationally)EtcTherapy is an unnecessary treatment, rather than the cure it is purported asTherapy is you paying someone to help you do something YOU NEED TO LEARN TO DO ON YOUR OWNTherapy is someone giving you a fish, rather than teaching you how to fish, these people don't train you on how you should think, their job is to help you arrive upon certain specific thoughts and realizations tailored to your life problems, so you will basically always be dependent on them. So when a new problem pops up that is a source of mental stress, off you go back to your therapist to be granted another revelation, something you could have done yourself by thinking a little.Last but not least, therapists are required under law to report on the mental health of their clients, and report to various authorities if they believe that person is a threat to themselves or others, so an incel going to a therapist to talking about their lives, in this day and age where sexually frustrated men are hated and feared as potential mass shooters, is a fucking idiot.I could not trust anyone who is undergoing or has undergone therapy with my life or anything for that matter, because that person is someone so dishonest, that they had to be coerced into being honest with themselves, that is a scary level of dishonesty, as that person essentially cannot trust themselves. On top of that, they lack self awareness, and the ability to be introspective, such a person would only impede my success if I involve them in my life, or worse yet destroy my success or possibly inconvenience my life, maybe even be the cause of my deathSuper Nova IQ, I've came to the exact fucking conclusion, why would you need someone else to tell you how to deal with your own mental state, I've always death with my problems through introspective thinking and logical deduction, sometimes when shit really hits the fan but I always eventually pull myself out of it, I never understand why people would think someone else would be better at understanding their own mind better than they can", "Therapy only works for people who are actually delusional to work as a fact check.If you're just depressed they tell you to get on the pill regime or LDAR.", "Yes, its so useless.BodyFat10orRope said:Why pay for a therapist when you could pay an escort who you can use as a GFE therapist while cuddling and fucking? They're probably close to the same price anyway.Life hack.", "Therapists aren't for sick people, they're for well people who think they are sick.", "The only therapy I need is physical therapy with a young fertile woman that doesn't use social media, and wants to pair bond.", "Frankenstein's M. said:I never understand why people would think someone else would be better at understanding their own mind better than they can", "Lubricure said:Exactly, therapy is not something crafted to work, but to legally extort money and more importantly, control people.It's hilarious the fact that I observed some based friends of mine mindmog your run of the mill psychologist, when it comes to talking about an issue.Therapy solves nothing.There's no psychological counselling for your face.There's no rehabilitation for your genes.There's no conflict management for your looks.Back in this day my normie friends used to come to me for free therapy Because I was researching phycology for a while, I basically tell them what they wanted to hear and they bought it ", "Lubricure said:Therapy solves nothing.There's no psychological counselling for your face.There's no rehabilitation for your genes.There's no conflict management for your looks.ultra iq", "Frankenstein's M. said:Back in this day my normie friends used to come to me for free therapy Because I was researching phycology for a while, I basically tell them what they wanted to hear and they bought it I did the same, back at the time I was reading some psychology book too. I remember to have quit after short time because I realized many of the things written on said books are mostly common sense, nothing groundbreaking. Moreover, I got fed up of playing the counselor without getting any pussy and stopped altogether.When I told them truth they were often like this: When I told them what they wanted to hear: Izayacel said:ultra iqThanks man. ", "Even my parents dont believe therapy is a good solution for me. It wont make me turn white so I dont blame them", "Yeah man" ]
BlackpillTinder didnt start the fire, it was always burning since the world was turning.
[ "What I'm about to say is basically water is wet to most of you, but there are some users here who romanticize the pre-tinder dating scene. They think most ugly guys were able to get sex/relationships prior to it's launch in 2012. Most of these users were not even adults when it came out, but when tinder was launched I was already 25. Furthermore, I've approached a lot of women, including many many sub4 women (very ugly or obese) and as you all know I was rejected every single time. The vast majority of those rejections (like 95+ percent) were from 2006-2010. I can tell you from personal experience and what I've observed my whole life, that hypergamy and juggernaut law were alive and well long before tinder (or smartphones for that matter) were a thing.In fact, hypergamy predates the internet, computers, electricity, and even the wheel or written language. Hypergamy is a naturally occurring phenomenon and there is mountains of evidence of this. Primarily the fact that most men in human history did not reproduce. have always been the ones who controlled sexual selection. Men want women vastly more than women want men. It's not just sexual, our instinct is to love, protect, and provide for women. Women, simply put, do not feel the same way about men. This is for very simple biological reasons.Thread inspired by @NEETAndTidy, who I always thought was pretty blackpilled, but made a shockingly bluepilled (and objectively inaccurate) declaration that ugly men could get women without betabuxxing before Tinder came out. Edit: Just to be clear, I fully acknowledge that Tinder has amplified hypergamy. But my point is that Tinder didn't create mass hypergamy, it just made things like 25 percent worse.", "Most females have overly sky high standards, which will only get worse.", "the idea is to restrict female nature to the extent that is possible in order to make life tolerable for both sexes. Dating apps such as Tinder does the opposite, and statistics attest to this. The dating climate is getting colder for men anually. It wasn't nearly this difficult 15 years ago even.", "Well I was 18 in 2012, didn't have any luck then, and that's when I was still trying with the online stuff. People repeatedly told me a was ugly as a kid, so I have no illusions about my appearance.", "Ryo_Hazuki said:declaration that ugly men could get women without betabuxxing.how did he justify that statement", "Hypergamy and juggernaut law were alive but severely suppressed from the lack of access to a high volume of superior genetics and high status males.Tinder and Facebook amplified these two things 10x fold.Haircuts, PUA, clothing, and money were potent enough to overcome genetic barriers.Those things are now completely obsolete as you now need the preferred race, height, and facial structure to break the success barrier in dating due to their plethora of options on every social media platform.Pre-tinder & facebook it was sub4 rule to be excluded from dating foids.It is now sub8.", "Women have become such cunts that my natural instincts towards them has done a 180 ...I used to want to love, protect, and provide. Now I just want to watch them burn instead.", "I don't think you guys can call me crazy if I predict we will see sub9 in our lifetime. Within 5-10 years we should hit this.7 and 8 males will still be elgible to date/hookup, but they will be treated like trash, pawns, and disrespected to the point that many will recognize that it really isn't worth it (doesn't this sound like japan?).", "I posted the same with a true story illustrating how bad it could be in the 90s, but was accused of larping, as if I don't have better things to do. You either turn women on or you don't. Someone who was successful with women back then would be successful now, just maybe get less action with all the distractions there are. Maybe a guy who managed to get laid a couple of times and then got dumped for a better looking guy would never get laid at all now, but for the most part I believe things haven't changed so much. I can't speak for pre 90s as I wasn't yet dating, but in the 90s looks were what it was all about.", "its utter cope to think sub4 men had a chance in any period of time, especially muh 50s", "Ryo_Hazuki said:Women have always been the ones who controlled sexual selection.Did women control sexual selection in prehistory? Maybe. Female sexual selection is almost universal in the animal kingdom, so it's possible, but not certain, that the earliest, most animalistic humans allowed females to freely choose their sexual partners.Did women control sexual selection during most historical time periods? Absolutely not. Almost all historical societies denied women the right to freely choose their sexual partners. There must have been some type of evolutionary advantage in controlling female sexuality because almost all societies that survived until modern times controlled it. Those societies that did not restrict female sexuality mostly did not survive until modern times. As Unwin has pointed out, the more severe the restrictions placed on female sexuality in any particular historical civilization, the more advanced that civilization was likely to be.In other words, female sexuality is primitive and animalistic. There is no benefit to allowing women to freely choose their sexual partners. To quote an infamous incel, “Women should not have the right to choose who to mate with. That choice should be made for them by civilized men of intelligence.”Ryo_Hazuki said:In fact, hypergamy predates the internet, computers, electricity, and even the wheel or written language. Hypergamy is a naturally occurring phenomenon and there is mountains of evidence of this. Primarily the fact that most men in human history did not reproduce. to expand...Hypergamy is not the main factor why most men in human history failed to reproduce. It was, at best, a contributing factor. In all of recorded history, there have been only around 300 years of peace and most of those years were used to prepare for more war. Most primitive human societies are in a constant state of warfare. When a tribe defeats another tribe, the women of the defeated tribe survive but all or most of the males get killed. It makes no sense to attribute the fact that most males did not pass on their genes to female hypergamy when it is much more readily explained by warfare.", "I’ve been saying this ever since I got here", "Ugly men really had it harder 15-25 years ago no shit about that.Average men had still some power within the dating dynamic (in the 90's until the late 2000's) but because of Tinder and smartphones, they become the new ugly as we often hear.4-5/10 men could ascend normally pre-2012, now they either have to date landwhales or rot/rope.", "Ive been thinking about the pros and cons of today and back then.Back on good ol patriarchy in order to get sex you have to marry the woman.Nowadays normie can string along foid for years and get husband privilege. Although the divorce court now favors foid, the fact that most normies can get their gf to have sex with them, blowjobs etc and then dump them after wasting years of their youth kinda makes up for it, dont you think?Now no man gonna marry a foid without the bf gf phase for at least 1/2 yrsAnd theres a good chance the men would just dump herAnd shed have to look againKinda life fuel tbhBack then when most marriage last a lifetime, and foids cant have jobs, rights to vote, etc, its damn near impossible to get ons, or sex outside of marriage, cause even the sluttiest, least disciplined foids know non virgin women cant find husband therefore theyll have to rely to parents for their whole life if they wanna fucj chad..So doesnt this mean things kinda even out ultimately? For normie at least Since incel can never get gf to begin with", "Ryo_Hazuki said:What I'm about to say is basically water is wet to most of you, but there are some users here who romanticize the pre-tinder dating scene. They think most ugly guys were able to get sex/relationships prior to it's launch in 2012. Most of these users were not even adults when it came out, but when tinder was launched I was already 25. Furthermore, I've approached a lot of women, including many many sub4 women (very ugly or obese) and as you all know I was rejected every single time. The vast majority of those rejections (like 95+ percent) were from 2006-2010. I can tell you from personal experience and what I've observed my whole life, that hypergamy and juggernaut law were alive and well long before tinder (or smartphones for that matter) were a thing.In fact, hypergamy predates the internet, computers, electricity, and even the wheel or written language. Hypergamy is a naturally occurring phenomenon and there is mountains of evidence of this. Primarily the fact that most men in human history did not reproduce. have always been the ones who controlled sexual selection. Men want women vastly more than women want men. It's not just sexual, our instinct is to love, protect, and provide for women. Women, simply put, do not feel the same way about men. This is for very simple biological reasons.Thread inspired by @NEETAndTidy, who I always thought was pretty blackpilled, but made a shockingly bluepilled (and objectively inaccurate) declaration that ugly men could get women without betabuxxing before Tinder came out.Edit: Just to be clear, I fully acknowledge that Tinder has amplified hypergamy. But my point is that Tinder didn't create mass hypergamy, it just made things like 25 percent worse.pre-tinder men had the illusion of hope and being able to get girls via PUApost-tinder, now a non-good looking man can't even talk to a woman without having the police come and beat his ass", "It's sad to see how some of you are clueless.Back in the 80s, they had dating videos. You filmed your ugly ass and hoped for the best.The problem, women who got your tape, laughed at the incels.For some men it never began.", "Agree with OP. Life was not vastly better pre-Tinder. By the mid to late 90's women already had high standards that disqualified average height men and ethnics. Average guys were getting blown out unless they had an edge (money, fame/status, roids, PUA game). Internet dating and Tinder just made everything a lot worse for the non-Chads. It's not so much Tinder but Technology as a whole that has rendered all of us redundant and given women endless options. You almost can't blame them for behaving like cunts. If you were a Chad you'd have limitless options with women only constrained by your time to bed them all. Naturally, you would become picky and disregard 80% of your matches.", "Tinder was just a gasoline poured on fire", "Great thread!A big factor not being talked about is the complete failure of marrige in society. Back in the 90's when I was a teen, women were still being pressured by society to get married unlike today.I think that is a big factor in the rise of inceldom, just as much as tinder or social media. Women are now being told it's more important to be happy and have a fulfilling career then get married these days. I can attest that sub 4 men had it real hard before but ugly women were being pressured to get married and would have to settle for thier looksmatch. This doesn't happen today at all, You can forget about that...", "I just think it was a very different game.For example my mom has a friend we can call johnJohn is 60. He is a slow adult (not retarded) and has never worked. He claims hes had sex twice.Hes not much taller than me and arguably uglier.When i see stuff like that it just shows standards were MUCH different.Obviously human nature didnt change when Tinder showed up.But the fact that women could start dating outside their social groups/longer distance with almost zero effortYeah that certainly exasperated the problem", "Things were hard when I turned legal age in the 90s, some say it's been harder since the 60s and the sexual revolution/liberation period only got foids and hippy chads more sex. All I know is things get more difficult and will continue to, while women's options keep increasing as more avenues become easily available, social media, connecting to guys she finds attractive worldwide, what will be next?", "FrameCell said:Hypergamy and juggernaut law were alive but severely suppressed from the lack of access to a high volume of superior genetics and high status males.Tinder and Facebook amplified these two things 10x fold.Haircuts, PUA, clothing, and money were potent enough to overcome genetic barriers.Those things are now completely obsolete as you now need the preferred race, height, and facial structure to break the success barrier in dating due to their plethora of options on every social media platform.Pre-tinder & facebook it was sub4 rule to be excluded from dating foids.It is now sub8.I agree with most of what OP said, but disagree that hypergamy was always as bad as it is now. Back in the pre industrial era where monogamous standards were strictly enforced and adhered to even 5/10 men stood a good chance at finding a partner if he had a steady income and could provide. He could probably find some ugly chunky women to settle with, but that's just not the case anymore. As you said, below sub8 men are considered sexually handicapped in today's dating market. So just fucking forget it if you're a 4/10. It's over for you.", "extremely legit", "Before tinder 7/10 men and above had to go to bars with friends.Now they order women to their door step" ]
SuicideFuelProstitution is much more expensive today than it was in the past
[ "The price of pussy has not just increased metaphorically since the advent of feminism, but also literally. In Victorian England, the average monthly income of a common laborer was about 180d. The average price of a low-tier prostitute during the same time period was about 4d. This means that an unskilled laborer would only have spent about 25% of his monthly income if he had sex with 11 low-tier prostitutes in one month. Prostitution was fairly affordable for low-status males.Compare that to modern England where the minimum wage is 1,453.3 € / month and the average price of a low-tier prostitute (who wouldn't allow you to do everything you want with her) is about 70€. In today's England, an unskilled laborer would have to spend more than 50% of his monthly income if he wants to have sex with 11 low-tier prostitutes per month. Before the 1960s, sex workers did not really have much control over what their clients did to them. Prostitutes needed pimps to protect them from abusive clients because no one else would take them seriously if they complained. Today's prostitutes, on the other hand, tightly regulate what sex acts clients are allowed to perform on them. For example, many prostitutes refuse to have oral sex without a condom or charge a much higher amount of money for condomless sex. Even though prostitution is illegal in many Western countries, prostitutes who complain about rape or abusive clients are allowed to file police reports because there no longer is a stigma on female promiscuity. Modern prostitutes extract large amounts of money from desperate, low-status men in exchange for often poor service. Like all other women, they take full advantage of the gynocentric system. Because they're in such high demand, they can afford not to treat their clients fairly or to provide poor service.", "Sex workers are vile and are demonic, the devil has claimed their souls, do not let the devil claim yours.", "Fuck I hate how women are so over valued now its sickening.", "It's sad that some like me can't perform sex any other way.", "What a bunch of disgusting fucking degenerates. NEO.", "The closest escorts I've seen are 20 miles away in the next town who charge at least £70 for a 15 minute fumble and they're 30+ ugly landwhales.I'm not sure I'd get it up for them and I'd rather wank tbh.", "Brutal ngl.I live in America and I've heard the escorts charge tons of money and are low quality. Only worth it in a poor country tbh. Or maybe one where it's regulated and thus cheaper.", "Sub 8 men are born to suffer. 2020 is time of gynocentrism", "Incellectual said:Fuck I hate how women are so over valued now its sickening.LMAOTRUE", "Can i get a refund on for escorts/whores?", "Normie and fakecel problem.", "Honk Honk World.", "and it's only getting worseprostitution will cost the earth in the near future thanks to simps, since foids won't need to fuck uggos to get their shekels. Onlyfans will be as devastating as tinder.", "Bots over thots.I'm ashamed to admit I probably put 5 to 10k into escorting over a 3 year period. My doll even factoring in clothing probably rang me 3 to 4k. Ridiculous.", "Every hole now are queen... what you expect.", "Will never pay", "I'd blame welfare and online strip teasing (twitch, onlyfans etc).Many women can suck money out of either the government or simps online. If they couldn't most of them would have no choice but resort to the oldest profession.Actual prostitutes today are expensive because they are much fewer than they used to, and they would not do it if it weren't more lucrative than the easier options.", "b-but prostitutes are victims! they are forced to sell their body!", "Incellectual said:Fuck I hate how women are so over valued now its sickening.", "VirginAutistManlet said:Sex workers are vile and are demonic, the devil has claimed their souls, do not let the devil claim yours.", "lifeisbullshit95 said:Every hole now are queen... what you expect.IT be like: you goo kween ", "Incellectual said:Fuck I hate how women are so over valued now its sickening.", "FUCKITALLREEE said:Normie and fakecel problem.Lmao what? That's stupid", "Grothendieck said:Lmao what? That's stupidIf you have the willpower and lowinhibit enough to go see a prostitute, you're a failed normie. Trucels can only understand this.", "FUCKITALLREEE said:If you have the willpower and lowinhibit enough to go see a prostitute, you're a failed normie. Trucels can only understand this.", "FUCKITALLREEE said:If you have the willpower and lowinhibit enough to go see a prostitute, you're a failed normie. Trucels can only understand this.Grothendieck said: 273662failed normie is a term that is used to disqualify anyone's inceldom because they aren't a 2/10", "FUCKITALLREEE said:If you have the willpower and lowinhibit enough to go see a prostitute, you're a failed normie. Trucels can only understand this.This", "VirginAutistManlet said:Sex workers are vile and are demonicAre they though? Because this thread just seems to be men lamenting that they can no longer do whatever they want with women. It's posts like these that really make me question whether I'm really on the right side.", "VirginAutistManlet said:Sex workers are vile and are demonic, the devil has claimed their souls, do not let the devil claim yours.Well, they are foids afterall.", "Personalityinkwell said:failed normie is a term that is used to disqualify anyone's inceldom because they aren't a 2/10Meanwhile most of us also are quick to call MGTOW incels in denial and to point out that incel just means involuntary celibate.Most of us agree that if you can't have sex and it's not your choice, you're an incel. That should mean our explication for our inceldom should not matter.Many blame their disgraceful face, other their short stature, other their ethnicity.I, for one, don't care anymore about finding out why I failed to get free sex in my life. Could be my personality actually. I'm getting old anyway so : don't know, don't care. I just know I can't do whatever normal people do and I gave up trying. I just want to pay at this point.", "Only because you thirsty cucks keep paying for it, at this rate having sex will cost you a house in no time.", "Incellectual said:Fuck I hate how women are so over valued now its sickening.", "FinnCel said:Sub 8 men are born to suffer.2020 is time of gynocentrism", "Braincel14w said:It's sad that some like me can't perform sex any other way.", "Demand has done nothing but go up. Now all these people have to do is sit around getting laid and getting paid, but people act like this is the worst thing that can happen to a woman but the only bad thing for western escorts is the shame of sleeping with a low value man.", "DeepSea said:The price of pussy has not just increased metaphorically since the advent of feminism, but also literally.In Victorian England, the average monthly income of a common laborer was about 180d. The average price of a low-tier prostitute during the same time period was about 4d. This means that an unskilled laborer would only have spent about 25% of his monthly income if he had sex with 11 low-tier prostitutes in one month. Prostitution was fairly affordable for low-status males.Compare that to modern England where the minimum wage is 1,453.3 € / month and the average price of a low-tier prostitute (who wouldn't allow you to do everything you want with her) is about 70€. In today's England, an unskilled laborer would have to spend more than 50% of his monthly income if he wants to have sex with 11 low-tier prostitutes per month. Before the 1960s, sex workers did not really have much control over what their clients did to them. Prostitutes needed pimps to protect them from abusive clients because no one else would take them seriously if they complained. Today's prostitutes, on the other hand, tightly regulate what sex acts clients are allowed to perform on them. For example, many prostitutes refuse to have oral sex without a condom or charge a much higher amount of money for condomless sex. Even though prostitution is illegal in many Western countries, prostitutes who complain about rape or abusive clients are allowed to file police reports because there no longer is a stigma on female promiscuity.Modern prostitutes extract large amounts of money from desperate, low-status men in exchange for often poor service. Like all other women, they take full advantage of the gynocentric system. Because they're in such high demand, they can afford not to treat their clients fairly or to provide poor service.This is like saying the cost of housing is more expensive today than in the past while you live in New York, of course it seems like that, if you go to other countries its barely any different than the past especially relative to the increase in the value of money5 dollars way back in the past could buy a lot more than 5 dollars today, places like SEA and EE are cheap as hell", "VirginAutistManlet said:Sex workers are vile and are demonic, it is like the devil has posessed their souls, do not let the devil possess yours.", "VirginAutistManlet said:Sex workers are vile and are demonic, the devil has claimed their souls, do not let the devil claim yours.JFL this sounds like when religious people tell boys your palms will get hairy or you'll go blind if you masturbate", "BlkPillPres said:JFL this sounds like when religious people tell boys your palms will get hairy or you'll go blind if you masturbateBig Lenny has to get his dick hole scraped by a surgeons scaple after his dick hole got infected after seeing a prostitute", "VirginAutistManlet said:Big Lenny has to get his dick hole scraped by a surgeons scaple after his dick hole got infected after seeing a prostitute 278018Your point is?Not all prostitutes have stds, especially not young ones, also I don't know what kind of shit Big Lenny was into, he could have been doing a cheap veteran crack whore", "VirginAutistManlet said:Sex workers are vile and are demonic, the devil has claimed their souls, do not let the devil claim yours.And the average non hooker foid isnt? Cope.", "VirginAutistManlet said:Sex workers are vile and are demonic, the devil has claimed their souls, do not let the devil claim yours.justfuckinglaughoutloud", "Yep. Increased inceldom rates and increased prostitution prices. We are getting kicked while we are on the ground. Gg society.", "Braincel14w said:It's sad that some like me can't perform sex any other way.It's even more sad that I'm so ugly even whores won't service me", "Legendarywristcel said:And the average non hooker foid isnt? Cope.Stds rate are higher in non hooker foids than prostitutes in the west. Also they hold on to bluepilled logic. I had sex with hundreds of men, but am not a whore becozz I never charge any money the equivalent of am a virgin Male but not incel", "In Australia the price is around $200 for 1 hour and can range from $200 to $800 depends in location and some other things but most them are overweight or Asian students the only attractive ones are the ones that cost the most and from what I read on there sites they refuse Indian and Asian men for some reason but will screw disabled and same sex or couples.", "I think it's expensive because females who for some reason can't get a real job have plenty of other options nowadays : welfare, porn, webcams, social medias, onlyfans...", "grondilu said:I think it's expensive because females who for some reason can't get a real job have other plenty of other options nowadays : welfare, porn, webcams, social medias, onlyfans...yes, FUCK SIMPS", "Incellectual said:Fuck I hate how women are so over valued now its sickening.", "Cucks are beyond retardation.", "Uk minimum wage is much lower than that", "Yeah the prices are ridiculous. I lost my virginity to an escort and paid an obscene amount. I didn't want to pay so much but I didn't want to settle for an ugly, out of shape, or postwall escort. I wanted a good experience. The experience was still blah. She was young and hot but her performance was lackluster and she didn't show much enthusiasm. I didn't want to feel like a loser paying for sex. I wanted to feel passion and like she was really enjoying her time. That's far from what I got. The government should legalize prostitution and ban whores from charging over $50 an hour. There are no unskilled professions out there that make more than $50 an hour so why do whores deserve to make that much? Some of these whores make more than doctors. What a joke.", "Whores be whoring whores should die xD", "grondilu said:I think it's expensive because females who for some reason can't get a real job have plenty of other options nowadays : welfare, porn, webcams, social medias, onlyfans...", "FUCKITALLREEE said:If you have the willpower and lowinhibit enough to go see a prostitute, you're a failed normie.So now the cause of inceldom is lack of willpower and inhibition? I thought the main one was ugliness.That sounds like PUA to me.", "Mainländer said:So now the cause of inceldom is lack of willpower and inhibition? I thought the main one was ugliness.That sounds like PUA to me.i don't think it's too different from.......i dunno......going through with a scary dental appointment?so i guess if you still have good teeth at age 30 then you're a failed normie.", "turbocuckcel_7000 said:i don't think it's too different from.......i dunno......going through with a scary dental appointment?What the hell what a weird comparison.You can say what you want about fucking a prostitute, but can we at least agree on it not being painful ?Jeez the point is to get pleasure, not pain.", "Mainländer said:So now the cause of inceldom is lack of willpower and inhibition? I thought the main one was ugliness.That sounds like PUA to me.If you have to go meet a prostitute and is cucked enough to pay to put your dick in a balloon to fuck a used fleshlight dripping with other man's cum, you are still bluepilled cuck and a failed normie that isn't blackpilled to the core.", "FUCKITALLREEE said:If you have to go meet a prostitute and is cucked enough to pay to put your dick in a balloon to fuck a used fleshlight dripping with other man's cum, you are still bluepilled cuck and a failed normie that isn't blackpilled to the core.You can argue that prostitution is cucked, ok. But that seeing prostitutes makes someone not an incel? Hardly.", "Alone75 said:The closest escorts I've seen are 20 miles away in the next town who charge at least £70 for a 15 minute fumble and they're 30+ ugly landwhales.I'm not sure I'd get it up for them and I'd rather wank tbh.It's amazing how ugly prostitutes actually are, you'd think they'd have caught up with the times, but nope. There's no real supply of hot prostitutes because they can just get resources off multiple orbiters instead.", "Honestly, even as a hookercel, I am happy to see what KungFlu is doing to the whores. The entire field was getting severely overvalued. Hopefully a lot of them die in ditches before the virus panic subsides, and those that remain are forced to drop prices to entice clients.", "Mainländer said:You can argue that prostitution is cucked, ok. But that seeing prostitutes makes someone not an incel? Hardly.True, i don't know where i was going with my shit, maybe i meant truecels, i need more sleep. ", "grondilu said:What the hell what a weird comparison.You can say what you want about fucking a prostitute, but can we at least agree on it not being painful ?Jeez the point is to get pleasure, not pain.we're talking about the inhib part", "FUCKITALLREEE said:True, i don't know where i was going with my shit, maybe i meant truecels, i need more sleep.I like your humbleness and sincerity and I think we ultimately agree. Prostitution is immoral and cucked but escortcels are still incels.", "Mainländer said:I like your humbleness and sincerity and I think we ultimately agree. Prostitution is immoral and cucked but escortcels are still incels.", "Personalityinkwell said:yes, FUCK SIMPS", "And they wonder why men rope/ go ER/ become rapists JFL", "grondilu said:I think it's expensive because females who for some reason can't get a real job have plenty of other options nowadays : welfare, porn, webcams, social medias, onlyfans...", "Incellectual said:Fuck I hate how women are so over valued now its sickening.What goes up must come down eventually ", "And it's all because of you cucks paying those prostitutes.", "It depends on where you live, and what your options are. I live in Russia, and use a top shelf 19 year old girl from Belarus as a cum rag once or twice per month and it only costs about 75$.A good bj from a 5/10 girl is about 20$.", "aaand life is still hell. What else is new?", "HopeCopeRope said:What goes up must come down eventually The question is how fast. Society tends to move at gentle lovemaking speed when it comes to these cycles rather than vigorous pump and dump speed, no matter how much accelerationists and anti-natalists claim otherwise.", "they are trying to eradicate us", "VirginAutistManlet said:Sex workers are vile and are demonic, the devil has claimed their souls, do not let the devil claim yours.At this rate most of the world is the same. I'm not a Bible pusher but the state of culture worshipping sex and vile things seems off-putting", "turbocuckcel_7000 said:scary dental appointmentJFL just be five years old......", "stravinsky said:JFL just be five years old......you see people with busted teeth everywhere. they have money but they put off painful dental visits anyway. it's a common thing, tough guy.", "turbocuckcel_7000 said:you see people with busted teeth everywhere.I really don't, not that I'm in public often.turbocuckcel_7000 said:they have money but they put off painful dental visits anyway. it's a common thing, tough guy.Okay, cucks are also a common thing. Point being what? There are few spots on the body as easy to numb as the mouth, if all you need is some root work or pulling out defective teeth I can't feel sympathy for you tbh. I have had a nightmare with my teeth during my youth due to narrow palate, impacted teeth (non-wisdom JFL) and extreme overbite. Try taking a bone marrow biopsy, that shit SUCKS. Keep coping with how scary it is.Not even trying to shit on you really, just pointing it out. Tooth repairs are really easy generally unless you get jaw bone infections or shit like that.", "stravinsky said:I really don't, not that I'm in public often.Okay, cucks are also a common thing. Point being what? There are few spots on the body as easy to numb as the mouth, if all you need is some root work or pulling out defective teeth I can't feel sympathy for you tbh. I have had a nightmare with my teeth during my youth due to narrow palate, impacted teeth (non-wisdom JFL) and extreme overbite. Try taking a bone marrow biopsy, that shit SUCKS. Keep coping with how scary it is.Numbing doesn't work the same for all people, I can't believe this needs explaining. I don't need any work done because it's all been solved before I even signed up here, and it matched the experiences of many people I talked to where the numbing was pretty hit and miss and the whole thing was an ordeal. You keep coping that you're some kind of superhero because your mouth goes numb easily.", "turbocuckcel_7000 said:Numbing doesn't work the same for all people, I can't believe this needs explaining. I don't need any work done because it's all been solved before I even signed up here, and it matched the experiences of many people I talked to where the numbing was pretty hit and miss and the whole thing was an ordeal. You keep coping that you're some kind of superhero because your mouth goes numb easily.Maybe it doesn't, and if you feel like explaining it you need to take subjectivity into account since there is no measure of pain that isn't self reported with all the issues that goes with it. Good for you that it was sorted, I hope it went good.I'm no sadist, I don't care to try and punch downward just for the sake of it. It just seems unlikely to me that your nerve endings respond completely different to *caine than everyone elses, it's probably more to do with an incompetent dentist than anything else. If I recall correctly you're in EE, that right? Might explain some of it, ngl.I'm so far from a superhero, JFL, but nice strawman cope right there. I couldn't even cope with the pain from my phimotic band-expansion with a shitty 3D-printed chinese tool while on so much heroin I tangentially nodded off. It's just obvious to me that nerve endings in your gums and below are much more sensitive to numbing chemicals than anywhere else, unfortunately I've had a few different experiences to compare it with.Maybe you're a complete outlier or your dentist annihilated you, I'm sorry for jumping to conclusions but the use of the word scary just made me laugh out loud. Even when they've failed to properly numb me I'd still rank tooth pain below top 3. I'm not trying to act tough, who the fuck cares. If anything it's an attempt at motivation, cringe as it might be.", "stravinsky said:Maybe it doesn't, and if you feel like explaining it you need to take subjectivity into account since there is no measure of pain that isn't self reported with all the issues that goes with it. Good for you that it was sorted, I hope it went good.I'm no sadist, I don't care to try and punch downward just for the sake of it. It just seems unlikely to me that your nerve endings respond completely different to *caine than everyone elses, it's probably more to do with an incompetent dentist than anything else. If I recall correctly you're in EE, that right? Might explain some of it, ngl.I'm so far from a superhero, JFL, but nice strawman cope right there. I couldn't even cope with the pain from my phimotic band-expansion with a shitty 3D-printed chinese tool while on so much heroin I tangentially nodded off. It's just obvious to me that nerve endings in your gums and below are much more sensitive to numbing chemicals than anywhere else, unfortunately I've had a few different experiences to compare it with.Maybe you're a complete outlier or your dentist annihilated you, I'm sorry for jumping to conclusions but the use of the word scary just made me laugh out loud. Even when they've failed to properly numb me I'd still rank tooth pain below top 3. I'm not trying to act tough, who the fuck cares. If anything it's an attempt at motivation, cringe as it might be.The EE thing is a factor, no doubt about it, but I've been to both cheap and expensive dentists and it was kind of the same thing. Loads of pain, especially when working on the upper teeth for whatever reason.I don't think it's that uncommon, everyone in my family hates the dentist, really everyone I know, and they've been through a lot, eye injuries, giant gashes, you name it, still hate the dentist.You've been through a lot, I hope you feel better and like you've achieved something, sounds like you avoided getting a circumcision which is great, it can easily fuck things up for a man.", "Personalityinkwell said:Only worth it in a poor country tbh. Or maybe one where it's regulated and thus cheaper.Pretty much, women in Latin american Countries look 100x better as well,", "Legalization would solve some of this", "Do we have long time-series from other countries?How has the price changed compared to average wage/minimum wage in other countries?", "Hookers where I live are like $500 and u aren't even guaranteed sex", "DeepSea said:The price of pussy has not just increased metaphorically since the advent of feminism, but also literally.In Victorian England, the average monthly income of a common laborer was about 180d. The average price of a low-tier prostitute during the same time period was about 4d. This means that an unskilled laborer would only have spent about 25% of his monthly income if he had sex with 11 low-tier prostitutes in one month. Prostitution was fairly affordable for low-status males.Compare that to modern England where the minimum wage is 1,453.3 € / month and the average price of a low-tier prostitute (who wouldn't allow you to do everything you want with her) is about 70€. In today's England, an unskilled laborer would have to spend more than 50% of his monthly income if he wants to have sex with 11 low-tier prostitutes per month. Before the 1960s, sex workers did not really have much control over what their clients did to them. Prostitutes needed pimps to protect them from abusive clients because no one else would take them seriously if they complained. Today's prostitutes, on the other hand, tightly regulate what sex acts clients are allowed to perform on them. For example, many prostitutes refuse to have oral sex without a condom or charge a much higher amount of money for condomless sex. Even though prostitution is illegal in many Western countries, prostitutes who complain about rape or abusive clients are allowed to file police reports because there no longer is a stigma on female promiscuity. Modern prostitutes extract large amounts of money from desperate, low-status men in exchange for often poor service. Like all other women, they take full advantage of the gynocentric system. Because they're in such high demand, they can afford not to treat their clients fairly or to provide poor service.LittleBoy said:Those street whores charge £20-£40=15 mins of PIV sex. So that's the same as an AW escort or brothel escort charging £50 for 20 mins. £10 = 5 min blow job so in effect that's still £100+ per hour. Other than their drug taking self indulgence & self harm how the fuck are they oppressed? So called pimps are just protection rackets that you'd pay for a private body guard or shop security guard. EtcBraincel14w said:It's sad that some like me can't perform sex any other way.Same", "uglyautisticrice said:Hookers where I live are like $500 and u aren't even guaranteed sexIn Europe?", "The ones in Dublin are usually English women on tour or Eastern Europeans. It would be around $250 including travel for me. I don't think I will use escorts much as my anxiety is too strong to enjoy such a thing. The reality is that masturbating alone in a room will always be the more enjoyable sexual act for me. Normies could never comprehend this as they have no idea what real anxiety is.", "ThracianGladiator said:In Europe?West coast usa", "The problem is making it illegal, it vastly made the prices increase due to supply being cut but the demand being high still.", "water is wet", "Back in time you just needed to have a job to have a wife to empty your balls.Now it's much more sophisticated, having a job is far from enough and many men just can't access sex for free even if they have relatively good situations.My cousin, a long time incel soycuck, has been alone until he was 29. Yet, when he was 26, he was already a good engineer winning a lot of money. Not enough. He ended up with a low-value woman and is planning to marry her rn.I don't even want to know her but I saw a picture and know this foid has had at least 30 sexual partners before the betabuxx. I'm sorry for him and hope not to end up like him.End even if you access it, the foid will say I'm not a sex person and you'll be priviledged if she agrees to fuck more than once a week.Better alone than with a old-slut who won't give you what she gave for free for a decade to any chad she'd see.", "To summarize: if you aren’t able to get a girlfriend who will do these things with you for free, you’re in for a very, very bad life. most time to rope.", "uglyautisticrice said:West coast usaNot surprising, it's probably California where the prices get skewed by:1. a large number of very high income earners from Hollywood and the tech industry in Silicon Valley2. artificial scarcity caused by the government not decriminalizing prostitution3. increased risks for the prostitute due to government criminalization (basically potential arrests and legal costs are priced in)I have no idea why anyone still stays there unless they're either an actor, a techie, a landlord or just obscenely rich. One of the most overrated overpriced places to live in the world.", "Fuck escortmaxxing, it's not worth it. Back in NYC in the 80s and early 90s, you could get a beautiful escort for 30 bucks. How far we are from that now.", "Eschewcel said:Back in time you just needed to have a job to have a wife to empty your balls.Now it's much more sophisticated, having a job is far from enough and many men just can't access sex for free even if they have relatively good situations.My cousin, a long time incel soycuck, has been alone until he was 29. Yet, when he was 26, he was already a good engineer winning a lot of money. Not enough. He ended up with a low-value woman and is planning to marry her rn.I don't even want to know her but I saw a picture and know this foid has had at least 30 sexual partners before the betabuxx. I'm sorry for him and hope not to end up like him.End even if you access it, the foid will say I'm not a sex person and you'll be priviledged if she agrees to fuck more than once a week.Better alone than with a old-slut who won't give you what she gave for free for a decade to any chad she'd see.high IQ, better incel than cuck or betabuxx", "Bro either way beta buxx or not, women are extremely expensive to get even jsut for casual sex. its getting more and more expensive. escort maxxing is a good cope if you can do it regularly, if you can only do it once a month or year it will jsut make u more depressed", "FUCKITALLREEE said:If you have the willpower and lowinhibit enough to go see a prostitute, you're a failed normie. Trucels can only understand this.FUCKITALLREEE said:If you have to go meet a prostitute and is cucked enough to pay to put your dick in a balloon to fuck a used fleshlight dripping with other man's cum, you are still bluepilled cuck and a failed normie that isn't blackpilled to the core.Bro what are you talking about? I live in NYC and around 80% of men are INCELS. Ugly 2/10 Rosie O’Donnells get treated like Sommer Ray and even High-Tier normies have difficulty in getting women here. Women won't even look at you or acknowledge your existence if you're less than an 8/10 Chad. You're acting like normies control their own destiny and can do erroneous Redpilled PUA B.S. to pick up women it don't work that way bud..they DO get treated slightly better than truecels but it's OVER for Normies as well, actually for all Sub8 men.", "DominicanDancecel91 said:Bro what are you talking about? I live in NYC and around 80% of men are INCELS. Ugly 2/10 Rosie O’Donnells get treated like Sommer Ray and even High-Tier normies have difficulty in getting women here. Women won't even look at you or acknowledge your existence if you're less than an 8/10 Chad. You're acting like normies control their own destiny and can do erroneous Redpilled PUA B.S. to pick up women it don't work that way bud..they DO get treated slightly better than truecels but it's OVER for Normies as well, actually for all Sub8 men.NY sounds like hell tbh.i think i was raging because i haven't slept well for 2-3 days, what i was saying is that escortmaxxing is only available for bluepilled normies, failed normies and incels, and as a truecel it is unavailable so only truecels know my pain, also that the act of paying to put your dick in a balloon, then to put it in a std filled axe wound is kind of cucked in itself.", "Cucks and their simping in direction of foids maked foids to take courage to trade price of pussy.Not if i myself would go for escorts. I would only have sex with foid who loves me ( which is physically, theoretically impossible ).", "Incellectual said:Fuck I hate how women are so over valued now its sickening.DominicanDancecel91 said:Bro what are you talking about? I live in NYC and around 80% of men are INCELS. Ugly 2/10 Rosie O’Donnells get treated like Sommer Ray and even High-Tier normies have difficulty in getting women here. Women won't even look at you or acknowledge your existence if you're less than an 8/10 Chad. You're acting like normies control their own destiny and can do erroneous Redpilled PUA B.S. to pick up women it don't work that way bud..they DO get treated slightly better than truecels but it's OVER for Normies as well, actually for all Sub8 men.Can't guys in NYC betabuxx? Pretty sure I've seen it on social media actually.", "DeepSea said:The price of pussy has not just increased metaphorically since the advent of feminism, but also literally.In Victorian England, the average monthly income of a common laborer was about 180d. The average price of a low-tier prostitute during the same time period was about 4d. This means that an unskilled laborer would only have spent about 25% of his monthly income if he had sex with 11 low-tier prostitutes in one month. Prostitution was fairly affordable for low-status males.Compare that to modern England where the minimum wage is 1,453.3 € / month and the average price of a low-tier prostitute (who wouldn't allow you to do everything you want with her) is about 70€. In today's England, an unskilled laborer would have to spend more than 50% of his monthly income if he wants to have sex with 11 low-tier prostitutes per month. Before the 1960s, sex workers did not really have much control over what their clients did to them. Prostitutes needed pimps to protect them from abusive clients because no one else would take them seriously if they complained. Today's prostitutes, on the other hand, tightly regulate what sex acts clients are allowed to perform on them. For example, many prostitutes refuse to have oral sex without a condom or charge a much higher amount of money for condomless sex. Even though prostitution is illegal in many Western countries, prostitutes who complain about rape or abusive clients are allowed to file police reports because there no longer is a stigma on female promiscuity.Modern prostitutes extract large amounts of money from desperate, low-status men in exchange for often poor service. Like all other women, they take full advantage of the gynocentric system. Because they're in such high demand, they can afford not to treat their clients fairly or to provide poor service.I allready noticed that. As someone who has not used prostitution yet (cause it will be traumatic as I starve for aaaffection still), but maybe in my more elder years I will need to use. I se it as something utterly expensive, specially for low financiall status men like me. Is unsustainable. Also they seem to give everyday poorer and poorer services.IT IS just rope material.", "VirginAutistManlet said:Sex workers are vile and are demonic, the devil has claimed their souls, do not let the devil claim yours.", "Yea, because cucks like you pay for it.", "MaxZM98 said:b-but prostitutes are victims! they are forced to sell their body!No they are lazy and make easy money", "MaxZM98 said:b-but prostitutes are victims! they are forced to sell their body!Jfl at low iq soy fags who act like they care about that to virtue signal to feminist landwhales.", "DeepSea said:The price of pussy has not just increased metaphorically since the advent of feminism, but also literally.In Victorian England, the average monthly income of a common laborer was about 180d. The average price of a low-tier prostitute during the same time period was about 4d. This means that an unskilled laborer would only have spent about 25% of his monthly income if he had sex with 11 low-tier prostitutes in one month. Prostitution was fairly affordable for low-status males.Compare that to modern England where the minimum wage is 1,453.3 € / month and the average price of a low-tier prostitute (who wouldn't allow you to do everything you want with her) is about 70€. In today's England, an unskilled laborer would have to spend more than 50% of his monthly income if he wants to have sex with 11 low-tier prostitutes per month. Before the 1960s, sex workers did not really have much control over what their clients did to them. Prostitutes needed pimps to protect them from abusive clients because no one else would take them seriously if they complained. Today's prostitutes, on the other hand, tightly regulate what sex acts clients are allowed to perform on them. For example, many prostitutes refuse to have oral sex without a condom or charge a much higher amount of money for condomless sex. Even though prostitution is illegal in many Western countries, prostitutes who complain about rape or abusive clients are allowed to file police reports because there no longer is a stigma on female promiscuity. Modern prostitutes extract large amounts of money from desperate, low-status men in exchange for often poor service. Like all other women, they take full advantage of the gynocentric system. Because they're in such high demand, they can afford not to treat their clients fairly or to provide poor service.I used to spend 10% of my wage when I used to work in factory. I used to spend that in 4-6 low tier escorts but I'm not from Europe but yes from South America. They are usually fat but white so they are a bit rare.However things usually get worse for low tier escorts once they surpass their 30s. While such things don't happen to unskilled workers.", "The prices have skyrocketed while the SMV has plummeted. Nearly every prostitute I could find in all the cities of my state were overweight middle-aged stoners. Only 30 to 40 years ago, prostitutes were usually moderately attractive and affordable.", "FUCKITALLREEE said:If you have the willpower and lowinhibit enough to go see a prostitute, you're a failed normie. Trucels can only understand this.I sadly understand this.", "Incellectual said:Fuck I hate how women are so over valued now its sickening.", "It's either you cope or rope when you're an incel, just so fucking brutal.", "FinnCel said:Sub 8 men are born to suffer.2020 is time of gynocentrismThis is the truth ", "Bad service is one of the reasons why I favor legalization. With legalization, johns would be able to talk to each other and point out who the good ones are and who to avoid. Vetting a hooker before seeing her would be FAR more effective than it is now. The bitch ones would have to either clean up their act or find a different line of work.", "BuyingANewFace said:Bad service is one of the reasons why I favor legalization. With legalization, johns would be able to talk to each other and point out who the good ones are and who to avoid. Vetting a hooker before seeing her would be FAR more effective than it is now. The bitch ones would have to either clean up their act or find a different line of work.", "Supply and Demand. Sex is harder to get than ever.", "At this rate, God bless you dudes", "If it becomes legal the price will go down because there will be more supply.", "nowadays they want way too much information - id, employer info, e.g. soon they will probably be collecting SSN and stool stamples too.", "imanuglysob said:nowadays they want way too much information - id, employer info, e.g. soon they will probably be collecting SSN and stool stamples too.WTF are you talking about? They just want your cash, for you to cum fast, and to do the least they can get away with to make that happen.", "based_meme said:WTF are you talking about? They just want your cash, for you to cum fast, and to do the least they can get away with to make that happen.maybe where you come from but look at places such as tryst, all of the 'verification' they do.", "wish i was rich", "VirginAutistManlet said:Sex workers are vile and are demonic, the devil has claimed their souls, do not let the devil claim yours. HIGH IQ", "Not even is it expensive, but they’re getting booked up so fast that you can’t even get an appointment.Fuck ‘em. I’m saving up my wage-slaving salary for a sex doll", "I should be thankful I am low T because I don't have much of an urge me see an escort. It would be painfully awkward for me as an autist, even opening the door and saying hi is an awkward experience for me never mind standing there naked.", "doFUCKITALLREEE said:If you have the willpower and lowinhibit enough to go see a prostitute, you're a failed normie. Trucels can only understand this.they are only hurting us. their lack of willpower and paying for pussy only reinforces that sex work is valid and that foids have inherent value.", "Very interesting analysis, yet another example of where the government intervening causes prices to go up. Prostitutes and online whores are the lowest beings in existence and i have absolutely zero respect for them.Never pay for sex or porn, try to avoid porn if you can, but if you do want to watch it always use ad blockers on porn sites and torrent any content you want, deprive the sex industry of wealth.", "FUCKITALLREEE said:If you have the willpower and lowinhibit enough to go see a prostitute, you're a failed normie. Trucels can only understand this. failed normie here and I totally get it.", "I don't want to pay for sex, but yes whores can charge higher amounts of money, because modern males are huge simps. I met a black foid in my Spanish class, who told me that she went on a date with a married white man... even black foids can wrap simps around their fingers!", "there's a reddit sub about pornstars who do escorting. your average OF hole think it has more worth than a pornstar", "It is called inflation. Everything is getting more expensive nowadays because the central bank jews are printing so much paper money.", "It is a mans world. The reason price for pussy is so expensive is because people willingly pay for it. There’s simps on this site that would pay 1k for a Belle Delphine fart in a jar. THOSE MEN are the reason foids make so much money on “sex work”. Half of them don’t even half to do anything sex related and men will Stil give them money. Personally I Blame society and the other incels who willingly give these foids money. Especially onlyfans and stuff", "titans9595 said:It is a mans world. The reason price for pussy is so expensive is because people willingly pay for it. There’s simps on this site that would pay 1k for a Belle Delphine fart in a jar. THOSE MEN are the reason foids make so much money on “sex work”. Half of them don’t even half to do anything sex related and men will Stil give them money. Personally I Blame society and the other incels who willingly give these foids money. Especially onlyfans and stuffThose are soyfags and cucks. They're not blackpilled incels.", "deathsh+rt said:$800", "Incellectual said:Fuck I hate how women are so over valued now its sickening.", "Its a conspiracy along with the government to keep the supply of pussy scarce so females can extract the Maximum amount of resources from men in exchange." ]
RageFuelFatcels are worst scum on earth.
[ "I just met up with my old time friend. He used to be a fatcel a proper one while we are at it. He always told me when we were hanging out back in the day that losing weight is pointless because his face is ugly anyway so its over for him. Yeah, guess what. I met up with him after a year and a half. HE IS A FUCKING CHAD NOW. Fucking absolute ragefuel I bet he only wanted to meet up to rub that shit in my face. I fucking hate fatcels so much. Fucker wouldn't stop going on about all the fucking girls he fucked on his party trip with his friends from work.I can tolerate youngcels even though I don't like them, some of them are alright but fucking fatcels are just scum on earth. 9 out of 10 of you fuckers are chads or high tier normies under all that fat I have seen it so many times, this fucking cycle of fat fucks complaining about their looks then losing weight and TADA MOTHERFUCKERS GAIN LIKE 3 POINTS. To specify, I only have problems with fatcels that never tried looksmaxxing before and are too lazy to stop eating. If you are fatcel after you were incel or because you are manlet, etc, I don't have a problem with you bro. Fucking fatcels need to rope asap. You better have good fucking excuse for not losing weight literally all u have to do is NOT EAT FUCKING FOOD.ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE U CUNTS.FOOD GOES INWEIGHT GOES UPFOOD DOESN'T GO INUUU GUESS WHATWEIGHT GOES DOWNGod damn, I'm a fucking genius.", "Fatcels are only redpiiled chadlites after working out IF they had good bone structure and 6ft+", "K", "Jal16 said:K", "Overprotective daddies of teen daughters are worse", "Yes, fat can definitely conceal good facial bones and structure if you already have them.", "a lot of chubby kids are chads in the making. the face gets longer with age so if you were like me and always had narrow face it only gets worse for you. if you have a super wide/fat face it can even out into a 2.0 fwhr face. this is young brad pitt (full chipmunk mode)Henry Cavill was teased for being fat. Gandy himself said he was fat growing up also.but as far as actual bf% as an adult, if you have never been under 20% you have NO room to talk. me I was always the opposite, being ridiculed as the skinny kid who now compensates by gymcelling. but i never fell for the bulk meme. that never makes you look better.", "I've been as low as 7%- of course I was 122 pounds, and still no facial bones showing. I'm not totally sure the gym's callipers were accurate, but I'm quite certain I was below 15% then. I think the Bradio guy or however you spell his name could ascend if he lost weight. I know 5'5 sucks, but I've also known good looking guys that height with gfs.", "Napoleon de Geso said:Overprotective daddies of teen daughters are worse", "Some fatcels used to be thincels who gave up because they were ugly.", "brunson said:I've been as low as 7%- of course I was 122 pounds, and still no facial bones showing. I'm not totally sure the gym's callipers were accurate, but I'm quite certain I was below 15% then. I think the Bradio guy or however you spell his name could ascend if he lost weight. I know 5'5 sucks, but I've also known good looking guys that height with gfs.I don't hate him hes a manlet but if he lost weight he could 100% slay in SEA he could SEAmaxx so hard his cock would fall off from all the girls he would get to fuck.MayorOfKekville said:Some fatcels used to be thincels who gave up because they were ugly.That is why I said I am ok with this kind of people. If you were fully developed and incel for a while and then became a fatcel because it was over anyway then I understand. But if you are fatcel since being a teen and come here and claim to be incel then fuck off.", "all fatcels end up having gigachad bone structure", "Incline said:I don't hate him his a manlet but if he lost weight he could 100% slay in SEA he could SEAmaxx so hard his cock would fall off from all the girls he would get to fuck.I don't hate him either, I just think he's wasting his time on here. With his looks I would be out there, or moving somewhere. He could definitely get a gf based on what I've seen in Asia even if he is socially awkward, they don't tend to notice that about white guys if they are at least somewhat decent looking or have status. Didn't work for me though, don't want to say the specific countries- I'll just say two east asian countries and one southeast Asian. One of the ones I really like committed suicide shortly after I asked her out, don't know if there was any connection....I'd still recommend a trip there if you have a modicum of street smarts, you may not get any free contact but if you have money you can get something.", "Nah, i was a thin cel with abs when i was 19-22, now i'm a 30 year old fat truelcel. I didn't get girls when i was thin because of my face and several girls rated me a 1/10. Why even bother? get fat and enjoy food.", "UglyScotsman said:Nah, i was a thin cel with abs when i was 19-22, now i'm a 30 year old fat truelcel. I didn't get girls when i was thin because of my face and several girls rated me a 1/10. Why even bother? get fat and enjoy food.Good bro, I support you. You are exactly the person I was talking about when I mentioned my exceptions. If you are incel then getting fat is a good cope what difference does it make if you couldn't attract girls anyway. Although I would never advise it because at least you could try SEAmaxxing before you do that bro.", "If he's a 1/10 he's not getting anything in Southeast Asia. I knew a guy like that who claimed the prostitutes even rejected him. While I have no idea how many he tried, I could believe it in his case. Besides being a mess of a human being, he didn't have good hygeine either.", "Guests: 83)Yes, yes. Welcome IT cucks and internet travellers. I hope you are enjoying this spectacle. It must feel addictive to dwell over lives of bunch of losers. But that wonder, that sense of superiority you perceive by absorbing our posts; I hope you do realize all of this is superficial. Because if you really felt that way you would have no need to come here and boost your ego by bouncing it off our misery. You are truly pathetic.brunson said:If he's a 1/10 he's not getting anything in Southeast Asia. I knew a guy like that who claimed the prostitutes even rejected him. While I have no idea how many he tried, I could believe it in his case. Besides being a mess of a human being, he didn't have good hygeine either.If hes truecel 1/10 for real then SEA won't work man. I think minimum requirement for SEA is 3/10 but I also heard 4/10. Need to confirm this.", "I think I'm a 3 and it didn't work for me. However, I did not go to the Phillipines, I was scared of getting kidnapped and murdered there. Silly I know, it was probably my best shot.", "brunson said:I think I'm a 3 and it didn't work for me. However, I did not go to the Phillipines, I was scared of getting kidnapped and murdered there. Silly I know, it was probably my best shot.Describe your experience in as much detail as you can please (without doxxing yourself) I am really curious. You can PM me instead if you would prefer that. I want to go myself, tell me where you went, what you tried, I want to hear everything.Please.", "My fatness actually made my eye area look better. More proportional with the rest of my face. But it made my mandible look recessed, so obviously, I was still incel.", "You're kind of new on here, as am I, but I'll pm you some information. Some of it is out of date, but I would imagine things would have gotten worse not better.", "For some fatcels I hope that coming here and reading stuff like this is motivation for them to make a real change in their lives. And move on... I don't hate them wasting their potential, nor do I resent them for temporarily thinking life sucks.God bless.", "Incline said:That is why I said I am ok with this kind of people. If you were fully developed and incel for a while and then became a fatcel because it was over anyway then I understand. But if you are fatcel since being a teen and come here and claim to be incel then fuck off.Well yeah, every man should looksmaxx at some point in their life - preferably when they’re young.", "I have no issues with fatcels, only the ones that rub it in people’s faces when they ascend after losing weight.", "-BrettyBoy- said:I have no issues with fatcels, only the ones that rub it in people’s faces when they ascend after losing weight.this includes 99% of fatcels", "FaceandHFD said:this includes 99% of fatcelsI see.", "Fucking cope. I'm a fat bastard and don't bother losing weight because I have subhuman eye area, ethnic (can't pass for white like I thought I could), and balding.", "Incline said:I just met up with my old time friend. He used to be a fatcel a proper one while we are at it. He always told me when we were hanging out back in the day that losing weight is pointless because his face is ugly anyway so its over for him. Yeah, guess what. I met up with him after a year and a half. HE IS A FUCKING CHAD NOW. Fucking absolute ragefuel I bet he only wanted to meet up to rub that shit in my face. I fucking hate fatcels so much. Fucker wouldn't stop going on about all the fucking girls he fucked on his party trip with his friends from work.I can tolerate youngcels even though I don't like them, some of them are alright but fucking fatcels are just scum on earth. 9 out of 10 of you fuckers are chads or high tier normies under all that fat I have seen it so many times, this fucking cycle of fat fucks complaining about their looks then losing weight and TADA MOTHERFUCKERS GAIN LIKE 3 POINTS. To specify, I only have problems with fatcels that never tried looksmaxxing before and are too lazy to stop eating. If you are fatcel after you were incel or because you are manlet, etc, I don't have a problem with you bro. Fucking fatcels need to rope asap. You better have good fucking excuse for not losing weight literally all u have to do is NOT EAT FUCKING FOOD.ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE U CUNTS.FOOD GOES INWEIGHT GOES UPFOOD DOESN'T GO INUUU GUESS WHATWEIGHT GOES DOWNGod damn, I'm a fucking genius.I remember when this forum was strict fatcel = volcel", "righteouscel said:I remember when this forum was strict fatcel = volcelI guess now we acknowledge if you are giga manlet and/or low tier ethnic, fatcel may not be volcel", "Incline said:I just met up with my old time friend. He used to be a fatcel a proper one while we are at it. He always told me when we were hanging out back in the day that losing weight is pointless because his face is ugly anyway so its over for him. Yeah, guess what. I met up with him after a year and a half. HE IS A FUCKING CHAD NOW. Fucking absolute ragefuel I bet he only wanted to meet up to rub that shit in my face. I fucking hate fatcels so much. Fucker wouldn't stop going on about all the fucking girls he fucked on his party trip with his friends from work.I can tolerate youngcels even though I don't like them, some of them are alright but fucking fatcels are just scum on earth. 9 out of 10 of you fuckers are chads or high tier normies under all that fat I have seen it so many times, this fucking cycle of fat fucks complaining about their looks then losing weight and TADA MOTHERFUCKERS GAIN LIKE 3 POINTS. To specify, I only have problems with fatcels that never tried looksmaxxing before and are too lazy to stop eating. If you are fatcel after you were incel or because you are manlet, etc, I don't have a problem with you bro. Fucking fatcels need to rope asap. You better have good fucking excuse for not losing weight literally all u have to do is NOT EAT FUCKING FOOD.ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE U CUNTS.FOOD GOES INWEIGHT GOES UPFOOD DOESN'T GO INUUU GUESS WHATWEIGHT GOES DOWNGod damn, I'm a fucking genius.I HATE GUY FRIENDS WHO BRAG ABOUT FUCKING WHORES TO ME IT'S ALL SUBCONSCIOUSLY A POWER TRIP FOR THEM. SICK ASSHOLES they fuck starfishes and rub it in your face", "Incline said:my old time friend.Ok friendshaver " ]
BlackpillIf You Are Self Conscious About Your Appearance (Especially Around Women) You Are Still Coping
[ "The reason why you feel so self conscious is because somewhere deep down you are still latching onto a thin thread of hope, that you have a chance, so you are thinking about how you appear because you don't want to look weird and ruin your chances, be it chances of being accepted, making friends, attracting a female, etc. I admitted to myself years ago that I have no chance, and even if I did I'm not bothering to try anymore (the effort is not worth the reward). Until you truly give up on the normie world your heart will always waver, at the slightest hint of a chance you will abandon all your principals and then when you fail again, you'll be even more depressed than before, and hate yourself even more for being so spineless and stupidThere are so many guys on this site who I am sure would fall for that cliche trick we see in TV shows, some cute girl lures the nerd to a supposedly secluded area with the implied promise of intimacy, and then when he goes in for the kiss out jumps out some normies to laugh and tease him, sometimes with cameras to capture the memory and spread around. I could never see myself falling for this shit, or any variation of it, because I don't think I have a chance at all, I'd refuse to even follow her, why bother, I'm not gonna get laid anyways, in fact I'd expect it was a prank, but a lot of youngcels on this site that are still in school would easily fall for this shit, because they aren't fully black pilled yet, they still have hopeA lot of people are on this site parroting its over but when it comes down it, they don't really believe that deep down, because they are still self conscious about things, and actively trying to self correct to appear better, they get stylish haircuts, they try to dress stylishly rather than just wear plain colours, they are conscious about their lack of eye contact and their ability to maintain it, they try not to come off as cheap or frugal when around normies (especially women) as though they are trying to present themselves as a good partner material.I blatantly tell co-workers, even female co-workers that I'm cheap, and not to expect anything from me lol, I dress plain as hell, I barely get any haircuts, I barely talk to anyone at all, I focus on my work and mostly ignore everyone, etc. I've already admitted to myself that it is truly over, so I completely stopped trying to present myself as anything other than guy #2342352 on the planet, the only people I want to impress are my bosses with my work ethicNow don't get me wrong and exaggerate the point I'm making, I'm not saying I can show up at work buck naked and be unshaped by it because I care so little lol, but what I am saying is if you are still self conscious about the tiny quirks you have (how you walk, how you eat, clothing, hair, speech patterns, etc) then you have not truly accepted that its over, if you had these things would not be bothering you", "low iqself improvement is never a bad thing, even if it doesnt get you a girl you can still feel better than u did before knowing you got better at something.", "Mostly true, though the halo and failo effects do affect things outside of dating, especially people-oriented work like sales. I can see an incel cognizant of that being self-conscious about his looks even if he knows it's over for him in the dating world, specifically.", "SaintElliotreeeee said:low iqself improvement is never a bad thing, even if it doesnt get you a girl you can still feel better than u did before knowing you got better at something.Self improvement is called coping if youre ugly, coping is pointless and pathetic", "SaintElliotreeeee said:low iqIts pride and ego that is low IQ, what is the point of self improvement that doesn't yield results, its just wasted effort, one should improve the aspects of their life that would actually benefit them, when you looksmax you have to HOPE you can make use of the end result, when I wealthmax I KNOW I can make use of the end result, so lets be specific about the kind of self improvement here, I'm talking about self improvement that is geared towards appearances, as in looking better and being more attractive, that's a complete waste of time.SaintElliotreeeee said:self improvement is never a bad thing, even if it doesnt get you a girl you can still feel better than u did before knowing you got better at something.Lol you know I argued this same idiotic point with another guy, you are exhibit A of the guys I'm talking about, literally fucking word for word you fit the archtype I parodied in the quote below - at least I feel better about my self and well at least I'm better than before at XBlkPillPres said:Pride is for fools, and the proof of that is how you've developed this coping mindset - at least I feel better about myselfFOR WHAT?For doing what 90% of men on the planet have already done, and in most cases, better than youPride is illogical, one should not be proud, one should be satisfied, being proud can blind you from making objective decisions that are actually to your own benefit, and worst of all pride breeds COMPLACENCY.Just as you are proud of what you did, there's some neet who is just as proud for leaving his house for the first time in years, who are you to argue that his single feat isn't equivalent to your many, that's the problem with subjective standards, that's why its better to focus on objective standards, not how proud you are, but how SATISFIED you are.When you put a ton of effort in, and you have nothing to show for it, that should be one's logical reality check to stop wasting their effort, and to pour that time and energy into things that would actually improve the aspects of their life that are lacking, but a prideful person will tell themselves - well at least I'm better than before at X and that's good enough for them, they'll keep investing wasted time and effort because they are proud of that insignificant thing, because pride has blinded them as to how insignificant it is.", "I would like to point out that, human decisions(neurology) are governed by probability curves, and not two atomized binary points that would give you yes or no answer.The probability curves never reach the complete confidence interval... They may go to the extremes of highly improbable/not worth investing energy in or to highly probably/worth investing energy in.I think when we say it's over, we are not talking about it in the absolute mathematical sense, of where the confidence interval tanks to 0 or to 1, we are talking about the numbers in-between.The only two times when I can imagine the confidence interval reaching the ceiling or the floor are death, confidence interval goes to 0. Or when an organism moves between different orders of being, like metamorphosis of larva turning into a butterfly. Inb4 cope", "Tempus Edax Rerum said:I would like to point out that, human decisions(neurology) are governed by probability curves, and not two atomized binary points that would give you yes or no answer.The probability curves never reach the complete confidence interval... They may go to the extremes of highly improbable/not worth investing energy in or to highly probably/worth investing energy in.I think when we say it's over, we are not talking about it in the absolute mathematical sense, of where the confidence interval tanks to 0 or to 1, we are talking about the numbers in-between.Inb4 copeThat seems like a lot of semantic BS to basically say nothing, also it has nothing to do with confidence, it has to do with levels of delusion, if you are truly an incel, then you have to be deluded to think you still have a chance, appearance should only matter to you, to an extent, but not to the extent where you are basically still trying, your effort should be going towards other things", "I just take the path of least resistance every single time. Looking uglier, dirtier and more ridiculous than I need would only make things harder, but at the same time, putting too much effort would not be worth it. I do the bare minimum about my appearance nowadays.", "true", "BlkPillPres said:Now don't get me wrong and exaggerate the point I'm making, I'm not saying I can show up at work buck naked and be unshaped by it because I care so little lol, but what I am saying is if you are still self conscious about the tiny quirks you have (how you walk, how you eat, clothing, hair, speech patterns, etc) then you have not truly accepted that its over, if you had these things would not be bothering youNot entirely true, a lot of the reason that stuff bothers me is because I'm reminded that I'm undesirable. It's not so much that I fool myself into thinking I have a chance, but rather that the idea of a romantic experience with a real foid isn't something that exists for me, and consequently I cease to devote energy to thinking about them. However the moment I see some qt foid, I'm reminded that I'm an undesirable virgin, and that other men get to experience all kinds of physicality with her on the regular, and then I get depressed again.", "There is no hope anywhere for the truly hideous such as myself. Some guys here aren't even ugly, therefore they should stop being faggots and go find someone to fuck", "Vermilioncore said:There is no hope anywhere for the truly hideous such as myself. Some guys here aren't even ugly, therefore they should stop being faggots and go find someone to fuckIts not all about looks. Try being an 4/10 ambiguous ethnic mutt in a red state city thats 85% white foids.", "Vermilioncore said:There is no hope anywhere for the truly hideous such as myself. Some guys here aren't even ugly, therefore they should stop being faggots and go find someone to fuckBased", "michael2222 said:Its not all about looks. Try being an 4/10 ambiguous ethnic mutt in a red state city thats 85% white foids.Yeah, but still, face > everything", "michael2222 said:Its not all about looks. Try being an 4/10 ambiguous ethnic mutt in a red state city thats 85% white foids.If you're only a locationcel, aspire to move if you really want to ascend", "Giga IQ", "TheSecondComing said:If you're only a locationcel, aspire to move if you really want to ascendI am trying to move believe me. White foids here wont even make eye contact with me. THey wont even acknowledge my existence. Every once in a while ill catch a black or mexican girl looking at me not romantically but out of curiousity because of my ambiguous race. Never ever does a white foid do that. I am completely invisible to them. And no im not thirsty for a white foid, the problem is they are 85% of the population here.im planning to move to southern california where i can blend in somewhat and my chances of ascending will move up from 0.", "LiterallyASoyboy said:However the moment I see some qt foid, I'm reminded that I'm an undesirable virgin, and that other men get to experience all kinds of physicality with her on the regular, and then I get depressed again.That has nothing to do with the thread, if what you do when you are reminded, is continue to waste time trying to adjust your appearance, THEN that would relate to the thread, the thread is not about feeling bad for being an incel, the thread is about still putting in effort to try as though you have a chance.I made no arguments about not feeling depressed because you stopped caring, my arguments are about not wasting effort and time trying to improve your appearance because you stopped caring.", "I put little to no effort into everything I do these days, I occasionally have feelings of hope but they're far and few between and they become less potent as the years go by", "I'm self conscious because I'm scared of being bullied or made fun of", "BlkPillPres said:The reason why you feel so self conscious is because somewhere deep down you are still latching onto a thin thread of hope, that you have a chance, so you are thinking about how you appear because you don't want to look weird and ruin your chances, be it chances of being accepted, making friends, attracting a female, etc. I admitted to myself years ago that I have no chance, and even if I did I'm not bothering to try anymore (the effort is not worth the reward). Until you truly give up on the normie world your heart will always waver, at the slightest hint of a chance you will abandon all your principals and then when you fail again, you'll be even more depressed than before, and hate yourself even more for being so spineless and stupidThere are so many guys on this site who I am sure would fall for that cliche trick we see in TV shows, some cute girl lures the nerd to a supposedly secluded area with the implied promise of intimacy, and then when he goes in for the kiss out jumps out some normies to laugh and tease him, sometimes with cameras to capture the memory and spread around. I could never see myself falling for this shit, or any variation of it, because I don't think I have a chance at all, I'd refuse to even follow her, why bother, I'm not gonna get laid anyways, in fact I'd expect it was a prank, but a lot of youngcels on this site that are still in school would easily fall for this shit, because they aren't fully black pilled yet, they still have hopeA lot of people are on this site parroting its over but when it comes down it, they don't really believe that deep down, because they are still self conscious about things, and actively trying to self correct to appear better, they get stylish haircuts, they try to dress stylishly rather than just wear plain colours, they are conscious about their lack of eye contact and their ability to maintain it, they try not to come off as cheap or frugal when around normies (especially women) as though they are trying to present themselves as a good partner material.I blatantly tell co-workers, even female co-workers that I'm cheap, and not to expect anything from me lol, I dress plain as hell, I barely get any haircuts, I barely talk to anyone at all, I focus on my work and mostly ignore everyone, etc. I've already admitted to myself that it is truly over, so I completely stopped trying to present myself as anything other than guy #2342352 on the planet, the only people I want to impress are my bosses with my work ethicNow don't get me wrong and exaggerate the point I'm making, I'm not saying I can show up at work buck naked and be unshaped by it because I care so little lol, but what I am saying is if you are still self conscious about the tiny quirks you have (how you walk, how you eat, clothing, hair, speech patterns, etc) then you have not truly accepted that its over, if you had these things would not be bothering youHighest IQ cel, I am not ashamed to admit that Iam a youngcel with hope, until I see that it's truly over for me I'll keep trying, but I must say I would never fall for those retarded pranks (anymore) Because ik my place in society and I almost never bother to second guess when foids particularly attractive ones look my direction, until I can hear it from the foids mouth and see it in her actions I'll never even think about vague IOIs", "Dionysus said:I'm self conscious because I'm scared of being bullied or made fun of", "tbh I think its only cope if you care about what foids think, I wanna make my voice deeper tbh", "fatmaxx for life", "Unfortunately many posters are likely fakecels underestimating their appearance to fit in on the forums. Everyone should pursue looksmaxxing once, but beyond that it is coping.", "High iq,but the thing is that most of this forum is of average or above looking mentalcels", "SaintElliotreeeee said:low iqself improvement is never a bad thing, even if it doesnt get you a girl you can still feel better than u did before knowing you got better at something.", "SaintElliotreeeee said:low iqself improvement is never a bad thing, even if it doesnt get you a girl you can still feel better than u did before knowing you got better at something.This. This is something that incels should do.", "Total Imbecile said:Self improvement is called coping if youre ugly, coping is pointless and patheticisn't some self improvement worth it to make your own personal reality more pleasant?", "This is something I realized as well. I would ask myself why I still care about how I'm perceived by girls around me and I realized I still have a deep subconscious grain of hope. It can't be helped although conciously I know it's over", "Cleftcel said:isn't some self improvement worth it to make your own personal reality more pleasant?Depends on what you are improving, things related to appearance, or things related to resourcesThings related to appearance are a waste of time for an incel and only copers bother with that shitthings related to resources will always improve your lifeHowever when most incels are talking about self improvement, its always BS about appearance, not wealthmaxxing, not investing, just go to the gym bro, sculpt a peak strength body nobody will fuckPeak strength is not required for surivial in this day and age, any of us can down a chad with a simple pull of a trigger, heck we can even fashion makeshift projectile weapons, any of us could even beat the average chad if we have some mace and a baton, strength is overrated in this day and age, and being muscular today is mostly about impressing women, we don't fight wars with swords and shields anymore, endurance and speed is more important that strengthThat is why when I start focusing on building my body, it will be more about being fit than being strong", "BlkPillPres said:That is why when I start focusing on building my body, it will be more about being fit than being strongyeah Im starting to go down that route tbh, what are you planning to do?", "Dionysus said:I'm self conscious because I'm scared of being bullied or made fun ofThis. If you got mocked on your looks for most of your teenhood that shit never leaves you", "It’s over for many men, man. Just not good.", "Cleftcel said:yeah Im starting to go down that route tbh, what are you planning to do?TBH I want to try the carnivore diet, can't do that living with my parents though, will start when I move out, i'll then do some kind of cardio programme, likely Athlean X, I downloaded a bit of his content, was hard to find, immediately backed it all up, that dude is the hardest exercise routine guy to find working downloads and torrents for, but his content is good and detailed, he really knows what he's talking about, he isn't some roided genetic freak who is really just strong thanks to genetics and is giving advice, the dude is legit, only fitness guru I've ever seen who goes into such detail about affecting key muscle groups, who those muscle groups work and interact with eachother, which exercises are effective on those groups or not, etc. I was surprised a guy like this even exists because all the others that I found were your cliche just work hard bro BS shit, no science behind their routines.", "Oh so when I give up and literally just LDAR and stop practicing basic hygeine I'm called a Volcel as you're not an Incel if you're not lookmaxxing 24/7, then when I decide to put in a little effort it's cope (and you're right OP) - what's the fucking point in continuing to shower and worrying about my appearance?Fuck it all.Although I have given up on looksmaxxing and I'm also just going to give up on anything that may help my looks tbh.", "Hate_my_life said:Oh so when I give up and literally just LDAR and stop practicing basic hygeine I'm called a Volcel as you're not an Incel if you're not lookmaxxing 24/7, then when I decide to put in a little effort it's cope (and you're right OP) - what's the fucking point in continuing to shower and worrying about my appearance?Fuck it all.Although I have given up on looksmaxxing and I'm also just going to give up on anything that may help my looks tbh.Its like you didn't even read the thread, where did I say anything about basic hygeine, you are acting like I said to stop fucing bathing or something, are you retarded.", "Dionysus said:I'm self conscious because I'm scared of being bullied or made fun of", "SameI laugh when my Mom talks about me wearing a shirt with a stain on it. I say who cares. She gets all upset and does the whole, But what if a girl sees you! Don't you want to look nice for them?im 30+ mom. ive been single my whole life. who the fuck would want me now?but no. she gets all defensive and acts as if i still have a shot with these vapid cunts.", "Isn't life and existence just an entire cope? At this point we're just trying to satisfy our emotions and our desires with minicopes. These minicopes will never allow us to experience the real thing.", "BlkPillPres said:Its like you didn't even read the thread, where did I say anything about basic hygeine, you are acting like I said to stop fucing bathing or something, are you retarded.The reason why you feel so self conscious is because somewhere deep down you are still latching onto a thin thread of hope.Surely this can also be applied to how you smell and shit?I'm not having a go at you or criticising any points you made as for the past 6-7 years I've been self-conscious about every aspect of my life for foids.It got to the point I was spending £60+ on expensive perfumes because I was that self-conscious about what every foid would think of me and ways of increasing my chance with success.There's been periods where my acne outbreak would just be horrendous but as you've stated is there any point in spending extensive amount of money if when it clears up it does not improve my chances significantly? As you've stated what's the pointed?If you're self conscious we still holding onto a glimmer of hope that doesn't exist.", "seija said:Isn't life and existence just an entire cope? At this point we're just trying to satisfy our emotions and our desires with minicopes. These minicopes will never allow us to experience the real thing.Please stop conflating copes with pleasure, its a misuse of the definition, a cope is something you do as an alternative to what you want to do, we all want to eat, we all want to drink, we all want to breathe, we all want to exist, these acts aren't copes, they are the very thing itself that we want to doPumkin said:SameI laugh when my Mom talks about me wearing a shirt with a stain on it. I say who cares. She gets all upset and does the whole, But what if a girl sees you! Don't you want to look nice for them?im 30+ mom. ive been single my whole life. who the fuck would want me now?but no. she gets all defensive and acts as if i still have a shot with these vapid cunts.Lol mom acts the same way, I already told her I'm never getting married and I'm not trying to attract anyone so why bother, the only reason I try and look proper in any way is because of my job setting, I want to keep by job.", "BlkPillPres said:Depends on what you are improving, things related to appearance, or things related to resourcesThings related to appearance are a waste of time for an incel and only copers bother with that shitthings related to resources will always improve your lifeHowever when most incels are talking about self improvement, its always BS about appearance, not wealthmaxxing, not investing, just go to the gym bro, sculpt a peak strength body nobody will fuckPeak strength is not required for surivial in this day and age, any of us can down a chad with a simple pull of a trigger, heck we can even fashion makeshift projectile weapons, any of us could even beat the average chad if we have some mace and a baton, strength is overrated in this day and age, and being muscular today is mostly about impressing women, we don't fight wars with swords and shields anymore, endurance and speed is more important that strengthThat is why when I start focusing on building my body, it will be more about being fit than being strongI gymcel for the T boost feeling tbh.", "VirtueSignaller said:I gymcel for the T boost feeling tbh.I'm sorry placebos don't work on me, nofap doesn't work, and I get no T boost feeling from weight lifting, I just feel pain, fatigue, and I see my muscle grow, that's it.", "BlkPillPres said:you don't want to look weirdI think thats pretty common and normal. Social pressure can suck hard tbh. I personally dont want to feel in that way bec. i feel like im getting more attention than the average person and it makes me stressed.", "Blacktarpill said:I think thats pretty common and normal. Social pressure can suck hard tbh. I personally dont want to feel in that way bec. i feel like im getting more attention than the average person and it makes me stressed.I'm no longer even looking to see if others are looking lol", "BlkPillPres said:I'm no longer even looking to see if others are looking lolOh, thats pretty alpha tbh. Maybe its just me.", "Blacktarpill said:Oh, thats pretty alpha tbh. Maybe its just me.The best way to emulate confidence as an incel, is to do the extreme exact opposite of confidence, stop giving a fuck, a confident person is aware of and cares about peoples perception of them, they just know that they meet the required standards, one can emulate that in a sense by doing the extreme opposite. Everybody will think you are confident and sure of yourself but they won't realize its more like you don't give a fuck about life anymore and don't care if you die, impress them, please them, etc.", "BlkPillPres said:The best way to emulate confidence as an incel, is to do the extreme exact opposite of confidence, stop giving a fuck, a confident person is aware of and cares about peoples perception of them, they just know that they meet the required standards, one can emulate that in a sense by doing the extreme opposite. Everybody will think you are confident and sure of yourself but they won't realize its more like you don't give a fuck about life anymore and don't care if you die, impress them, please them, etc.Thanks for the tip, it would be really hard for me to adapt that tbh, i lived my whole life as a high inhib person. I always wanted to be one of the cool guys (low inhib, chilled). I mean, i feel really stressed in certain situations and i always wanted to be the opposite.", "BlkPillPres said:The best way to emulate confidence as an incel, is to do the extreme exact opposite of confidence, stop giving a fuck, a confident person is aware of and cares about peoples perception of them, they just know that they meet the required standards, one can emulate that in a sense by doing the extreme opposite. Everybody will think you are confident and sure of yourself but they won't realize its more like you don't give a fuck about life anymore and don't care if you die, impress them, please them, etc.I verified this in real life, it works like described. Not investing emotional resources in society makes you disconnected and practically impervious to the emotional damage from social shunning. I realized long time ago I'll never be able to gain honest affection from a femoid, whatever thing I do. If the game is that rigged, it's useless even playing. Sometimes they told me yUr Zo kUnfIndentttt!, and when I told the thing above they were like: . But this is not confidence, it's absence of it, nontheless normiebrained people see only a black box process yet they notice the result.When I was looksmaxing to have a chance, I felt constantly anxious. Now, I feel nothing and a void inside. To win, more correctly, not to lose, you have to surrender.BlkPillPres said:I've already admitted to myself that it is truly over, so I completely stopped trying to present myself as anything other than guy #2342352 on the planet, the only people I want to impress are my bosses with my work ethicThe same, only opinions backed up by money or pussy have meaning. For us there's only the money generating opinions left.", "Lubricure said:Sometimes they told me yUr Zo kUnfIndentttt!, and when I told the thing above they were like: Lol same, once you completely give up, people think you are confident and have a personality, when its just you being you not trying to impress everyone, like everyone else is. They are seeing a genuine person for the first time in their life and it intrigues them, whenever I go into a new place of work within a few weeks everyone knows who I am, and start depending on me because I'm a consistent worker and I'm actually distinct so I'm not hard to rememberIts very easy to be a distinct person if you aren't a normie, because everyone else is the same and so fake, ironically I keep dressing plainer and plainer and people just still notice me and always ask questions, I need to complete my wealthmaxxing quickly so I can retreat away from the normie world, they are all so tiringI literally get frustrated listening to these idiots talk about their lives because I can easily point on the flaws in their life decisions and what they could do and could have done to prevent their current problems, they are all so blind, especially the men, which isn't really their fault, society indoctrinates men to make decisioins that are to their own detriment for the sake of society", "BlkPillPres said:Lol same, once you completely give up, people think you are confident and have a personality, when its just you being you not trying to impress everyone, like everyone else is. They are seeing a genuine person for the first time in their life and it intrigues them, whenever I go into a new place of work within a few weeks everyone knows who I am, and start depending on me because I'm a consistent worker and I'm actually distinct so I'm not hard to rememberIncredible, it literally corresponds to my experience. I don't get as much as recognition like your case, but I can reliably say that for a little number of younger blackpilled friends I've become a point of reference for this fact alone. Paradoxical, because there's nothing to learn, just to admit it's over once for all.BlkPillPres said:Its very easy to be a distinct person if you aren't a normie, because everyone else is the same and so fake, ironically I keep dressing plainer and plainer and people just still notice me and always ask questions, I need to complete my wealthmaxxing quickly so I can retreat away from the normie world, they are all so tiringI always keep good personal hygiene at all times, but I don't care very much about my clothing. I never got any questions about that, but I concur. Withdrawing from normieville is the sanest choice. Faking mental sanity I don't have is a full time job alone, thankless and unpaid.BlkPillPres said:I literally get frustrated listening to these idiots talk about their lives because I can easily point on the flaws in their life decisions and what they could do and could have done to prevent their current problems, they are all so blind, especially the men, which isn't really their fault, society indoctrinates men to make decisioins that are to their own detriment for the sake of societyHigh IQ, men are disposable nowadays and taught (brainwashed into) considering their own wellbeing as a secondary concern.I'm amused at their antics, they only thing bothering me is that every interaction with them yields no sex at all. Since I predict they would be going REEEE on me, I don't even start pointing at better decisions they should have taken. Unless it's a blackpilled brother, I would derive no benefit by helping them, unless it were with so much witnesses that it would net me a real social proof gain in the workplace.", "Lmfao @BlkPillPres preached TAILS content today this far back", "BlkPillPres said:I blatantly tell co-workers, even female co-workers that I'm cheap, and not to expect anything from me lol, I dress plain as hell, I barely get any haircuts, I barely talk to anyone at all, I focus on my work and mostly ignore everyone, etc. I've already admitted to myself that it is truly over, so I completely stopped trying to present myself as anything other than guy #2342352 on the planetBasedNot giving a shit (to a point) is what we should do or else we will always feel inadequate." ]
Psych Wards are like clubs
[ "The mental Stacies will flock around psycho Chad while the incel cies in the corner. Also, since wards are rather socially isolated, women have noreason to be discreet since noone outside it will know. Women, no matter how crazy they claim or seem to be, will ALWAYS desire Chad. Beinginstitutionized along with him is a HUGE TURN ON for them and makes the situation very kinky.When I was 20 I went to a psych ward because I was suicidal. I got even more suicidal in there. It's like a swinger's club. Chads and Stacies werefucking all over the place while incels woud cry themselves to sleep. I left after a few days since I couldn't take the sui fuel any more. It's only natural that Chad and Stacy will end up fucking if you put them in the same room.", "There was a psycho Chad druggie in my psych ward that would talk to every female. Most girls were receptive to him. The worst was how the 18-29 yo girls acted around him. Even fat, disgusting, unwashed warpigs think they're entitled to Chad, and you're nothing to them. This included the nurses. And then when I ask for a towel or something, I get death stares like I'm asking to rape them.", "Grotesque said:There was a psycho Chad druggie in my psych ward that would talk to every female. Most girls were receptive to him. The worst was how the 18-29 yo girls acted around him. Even fat, disgusting, unwashed warpigs think they're entitled to Chad, and you're nothing to them. This included the nurses. And then when I ask for a towel or something, I get death stares like I'm asking to rape them.Psych Wards are pure sui fuel just like outside world", "mentalcel said:I touched some pussy when birthing out of it but barely remember.Intellau_Celistic said:Group therapy. A certain mentally-ill morena would occasionally ask me if I was okay. I had stuttering/anxiety issues and she clearly viewed me as less than her, but she was kind and sympathetic.Hello Intellau(Sometimes)Intellau, did the group arguing today make you anxious?Intellau, shouldn't you wear your jacket?(The group was walking outside on a cold March day)Intellau, let me help you (I have motor problems and couldn't balance my body properly to complete a group activity)Near the end of my stint, I had stopped coming to group therapy for a few days due to appointments/anxiety. When I returned, I (reluctantly) participated by playing a game with the group. Most of them ignored me and one person actually spoke over me without regard for my turn to speak, but the morena was much kinder to me; she started fake laughing at my game answers to make me feel more comfortable and said Bye Intellau before I left. That was on her last day of group therapy.I very much wanted to chat with that woman and offer advice for her problems, but I was unable to; I was too anxious and prone to stuttering to befriend her during group therapy. We seemed to have very similar viewpoints and maturity levelsOutside of that, nothing at all. Meeting the morena helped me realize how superficial Shannon Rose Bosanac truly was; As S.R.B flirted with tall Chads in her group(Rule violation), the depressed morena sat quickly and respectfully for months.HenkkaH said:Memory mogs me.Skinlesscel said:Biggest friendzone ever eh?Logic55 said:Have a good day, brocelsIntellau_Celistic said:Yes. A pathetic, worthless whore who has had years of validation from beta orbiters. She once laughed at me while I was in the ward for suicidal patients and caused me to suffer needless bullying in group therapy.Human filth.NBAYoungBoy said:class “we’re in class to learn, not to make friends and date”aardvoaardvark said:It's impossible.Just give up.You'll never find a girlfriend.Intellau_Celistic said:Unless, of-course, you struggle with negative thoughts and body image problems that impact your sexual performance. I wasn't able to masturbate properly for several years because of autism and RSD/PTSD(Overlap).Whenever I'd start masturbating, I'd have compulsive thoughts of how inadequate(anxious, petite) I was compared to the taller, older males from group therapy and would feel so ashamed that I'd stop and start cringing out of anxiety and shame.Intellau_Celistic said:In 2016, I was an anxious 17-18 y/o who could barely leave his room to attend group therapy. I had crippling social anxiety and stuttering issues that made it difficult to function among other people. I kept my head down for four hours and had to close my eyes to speak normally.In 2016, anxious and depressed Shannon Rose Bosanac had 10+ orbiters and 4+ boyfriends lined up to support her at any given time. She was placed in the Afternoon Group to support her complex mental health history(She needed the extra support of her morning teachers).Intellau_Celistic said:You're reminding me of my first stint in group therapy. Youth would nearly always overlook me. Some blatantly insulted me and made statements such as Intellau, you know no one wants to partner with you. Go over to the table and sit alone, Tsk(Directed at me), No one likes him! He acts like a female! Why do I have to go to the 'Quiet Room'?.The only exception was when a certain kind youth joined my group. He treated me respectfully and showed concern for my obvious anxiety and social ineptitude; I was his partner for one group assignment, and it went very well.Yes, I remember my final day in group therapy well. I was heavily depressed, as usual. It was cloudy and raining. A certain Black youth told me, Intellau, go over there.(As usual), and I obeyed him out of a desire for peaceful group time. A kid by the name of Sean, another Black youth, criticized my writing and said Wow....Intellau's writing is terrible(He was handing out our goal sheets for the day); he also made sure to read my discharge certificate. I kept my discharge secret so I wouldn't be laughed at by my group mates.And as usual, on the drive home, the young girls in my transportation van started hitting me and drawing on me. Why? Simple:", "@Intellau_Celistic you're the jesus christ of this forum boyo, you always bring dead threads back to life. hallowed be thy name." ]
RageFuelNT people in university do these things
[ "My observations after 2 years at a UK university.almost every NT person here- drinks excessively. If you dont get drunk at nightclubs every weekend like a degenerate you are seen as some sort of weirdo, particularly in a university setting.- has their head buried in their phone and wears earphones. sometimes i like to stare out the window when i'm on the bus. no music or technology. but people think i'm weird because I dont have headphones in and i'm not looking at the newest Facebook pictures of Becky's trip to Magaluf from this weekend. 10-15 years ago in movies this behaviour was seen as nerdy but now you are immediately looked at as a freak if you dont live in internet land in 2019.- lost their virginity before 17. Even if any of us do ascend the likelihood of the girl cucking you because you were a late starter is enormous, as girls are massively turned off by the idea of being a guy's first. normal well adjusted men and women are losing their virginity in secondary school.- is a member of a sports or performance team. It is very easy to get on a team even as an unathletic kid in my college because they literally expect every single person to wear a sports/society-based sweater on campus. they will create a new sport or performing art if enough people (usually girls) complain about it.. i see 110lb pajeets with golf and table tennis sweaters, and enormous fat girls who are apparently members of various dancing groups. even if you are not interested in competitive sports, you are expected to magically find some activity really interesting and join a club based on it, or you stand out as the freak who doesnt belong to a club.- goes to dumb arts events. they show numerous movies, usually either old crappy black and white movies or the newest capeshit, in the cinema on the campus and if you dont watch this drivel you are seen as a failure. how grown men can spend 2 hours watching marvel in a crowded theatre baffles me but it is just one of the things people have to do if they want to be seen as normal.- takes time out of the school term to go to London or some nearby big city, sometimes even abroad. when i had to work in groups for an assessment people would just leave inexplicably for a week and then come back. i would ask why they went and they would just say i dunno just felt like it br0. skipping classes is not even seen as a sign of laziness, it is celebrated. people literally see no problem in shirking responsibility and just forgetting about work because they know i will do their part since i want a good grade. these are just some of the things everyone is expected to do here. I don't feel like doing any of it and this is just one of the many reasons i feel alone so often (the main reason being my face of course).", "Having a job is cucked tbh. And so is going to university", "We are the generation of degenerates, we will be hated so much by the next generation like never before.", "yup seems about accurate, everyone just wants to make fun of u for being different because everyone is all the same, and ppl always on their phones all the time pisses me off so much. I HATE NORMIES ", "wereqryan said:Why do brits drink so much?I also ask myself this question", "nice post man, especially the phone and headphones thing.being an aspie faggot that's always connected to technology will be the new NT soon, at least for the 18-30 bracket", "Boomers are bad they enjoyed their time and then jizzed and left our generation to become degenerates and fed them delusion. Now this generation is the most hated and easily the most annoying and degenerate. Fuck uni.", "I can confirm that is how all degenerates act, regardless of where you live or which university or college you go to. I know this sounds like a stupid question but what does NT stand for?", "seija said:I can confirm that is how all degenerates act, regardless of where you live or which university or college you go to. I know this sounds like a stupid question but what does NT stand for?neruotypicalor is it neruo-typicalgod, i hope i spelled that right", "builderseed said:neruotypicalor is it neruo-typicalgod, i hope i spelled that rightYou did spell it wrong and it is neurotypical. But NT means according to an immediate google search, people who aren't on the autism spectrum aka normalfags.", "seija said:You did spell it wrong and it is neurotypical. But NT means according to an immediate google search, people who aren't on the autism spectrum aka normalfags.sounding words out has failed me yet againactually no, i didn't sound it out. idk", "But aren’t people so self-obsessed that, even if they do look down on you for those things you mentioned (not staring at phone, not going out of town), they forget about it after a few seconds anyway?", "Saung-Hui Cho said:But aren’t people so self-obsessed that, even if they do look down on you for those things you mentioned (not staring at phone, not going out of town), they forget about it after a few seconds anyway?200 IQ observation", "NoMoreSlaving said:Having a job is cucked tbh. And so is going to universityHell yeah!", "wereqryan said:Why do brits drink so much?Everyone is a miserable sack of shit that cannot feel comfortable around each other & need to lower their inhibition through alcohol, it's expected as everyone else does it; typical herd mentality, it's a competition to show off who can drink more. I cannot stand the stuff, tastes vile, expensive & bad for your health. I like mixed spirits but I'm seen as odd,no one drinks that here, only lager, beer & wine. British ppl are fucking backwards. A very British thing is the notion that those drinking get annoyed if they cannot rope everyone around them into it, if you decline they get upset about it & think you're taking the moral high ground & judging them; I guess it never occurs to these ppl that like marmite some ppl hate it.This is a very big dog society & it's fucking telling, like dogs these ppl see nothing wrong with their invasive pushy attitudes & then lose interest in the blink of an eye, I swear the only reason Brits like dogs so much is 2 reasons:Icebreaker when out to get into a conversation, walking alone is weird; you could be a rapist or freak but with a dog you're a well balanced safe individual.Someone to boss around & feel like you own, the doggo never says no & doesn't disagree with your beliefs.Isn't it funny how pre social media internet users were geeks, nerds & unpopular yet now the ppl not sitting on their phone 24/7 are the freaks & weirdos.", "I hate having to deal with NT people in school. They make group assignments a pain. I got like 10 points taken off my last project because I didn't look over one of their parts of the paper.I don't understand the NT obsession with drinking and drugs. Its a primitive way to relieve stress and anxiety, and never results in anything good. All it does it leave you the chance to develop a dangerous addition.", "ihaveno1 said:yup seems about accurate, everyone just wants to make fun of u for being different because everyone is all the same, and ppl always on their phones all the time pisses me off so much.I HATE NORMIES They like to pretend they're interesting individuals yet they're all clones that attack anyone that is actually different.Chads all have the same skull/facial shape, the only difference is how many positive features they have on said faceSoyboys all look alike, same with feminist'sPop music on the charts is the same garbageLiberals promoting open borders & refugees live in the least diverse neighbourhoodsThey preach acceptance then like to gangup on & take the piss out of the most vulnerable in societyGiving money to a scam charity is preferable to giving directly to homeless.Ap0calypse said:I hate having to deal with NT people in school. They make group assignments a pain. I got like 10 points taken off my last project because I didn't look over one of their parts of the paper.I don't understand the NT obsession with drinking and drugs. Its a primitive way to relieve stress and anxiety, and never results in anything good. All it does it leave you the chance to develop a dangerous addition.The low iq way of coping & fitting in.", "SaintElliotreeeee said:- drinks excessively. If you dont get drunk at nightclubs every weekend like a degenerate you are seen as some sort of weirdo, particularly in a university setting.- has their head buried in their phone and wears earphones. sometimes i like to stare out the window when i'm on the bus. no music or technology. but people think i'm weird because I dont have headphones in and i'm not looking at the newest Facebook pictures of Becky's trip to Magaluf from this weekend. 10-15 years ago in movies this behaviour was seen as nerdy but now you are immediately looked at as a freak if you dont live in internet land in 2019.- lost their virginity before 17. Even if any of us do ascend the likelihood of the girl cucking you because you were a late starter is enormous, as girls are massively turned off by the idea of being a guy's first. normal well adjusted men and women are losing their virginity in secondary school.These three are especially accurate." ]
RageFuelTeenage girl gives birth at prom and throws kid in trash, only 3 years prison
[ " was in 1997 btw.Melissa Drexler, who was nicknamed in the media as The Prom Mom, is an American woman who, as a teenage high school student in 1997, delivered a baby in a restroom stall during her high school prom dance. She put the baby in the trash and then returned to the dance. Drexler pleaded guilty to aggravated manslaughter, and was sentenced to 15 years' imprisonment. After serving 37 months, she was released on parole.She should've been charged with murder and jailed for life FFS.On June 6, 1997, Drexler gave birth in a bathroom stall at her senior prom, twenty minutes after complaining of stomach cramps in the car she had arrived in. She retrieved the baby from the toilet bowl, placed it in a plastic bag, and deposited it in a trash can. It is thought that she severed the umbilical cord on the serrated edge of a sanitary napkin dispenser. According to the prosecutor, a friend asked if she was all right, and she replied I'll be done pretty soon. Go tell the boys we'll be right out. She then returned to the dance floor, ate a salad, and danced with her boyfriend.Foids always pick Chad over their own kid, as has been demonstrated countless times.Foids KILL and get away with it.And yet males are always the violent ones blamed in the media?", "soulartemis said: was in 1997 btw.She should've been charged with murder and jailed for life FFS.Foids always pick Chad over their own kid, as has been demonstrated countless times.Foids KILL and get away with it.And yet males are always the violent ones blamed in the media?Jfl family guy prom night dumpster baby skit was a true story...this is why i come here. Total psychos", "I hope she gets mangled in a car accident tbh.", "This bitch has TWO kids now. Someone please call CPS on this batshit crazy whore.", "im pro choice teehee", "Fuck her.", "That's so disgusting. It seems like if a foid kills her own baby that somehow makes it more okay in the eyes of the law ", "foids can kill us and get little to no prison sentence", "But elder men who want serious relations with teen waifu, want to save her from being fuck'n'dumped by fuckboys, are degenerates in this modern progressive enlightened civilisation", "PM_ME_STRIPPERS said:im pro choice teehee", "I wonder what would happen if a man killed his child so he doesn't pay child support. I think he would get of jail even faster!", "However, a fluke of timing spared Drexler potentially much more severe consequences. In June 1997, three days after the crime, the No Early Release Act took effect. Under the act, individuals who commit the crime Drexler pleaded guilty to were required to serve 85 percent of their sentence.Instead, by November 2001 she was released from prison on parole.Kek. Fuck this gay life smiling at newborns killers", "soulartemis said:Foids KILL and get away with it.Wow only 15 years lul ", "2340922 said:Wow only 15 years lul Foids start murdering their own creations early.", "Sgtpinkie said:Foids start murdering their own creations early.Like they care", "2340922 said:Like they careSuch a young thing deciding to throw a baby into the garbage, what kind of mentality do you need to throw your own creation into the garbage? This goes for abortions as well, how can foids willfully abort thier own creations without being somewhat guilty? Are they even human anymore, the more I read about it the more I'm convinced it's satan in physical form.", "Handflappingcel said:Jfl family guy prom night dumpster baby skit was a true story...this is why i come here. Total psychosI wish the babies in real life could sing like in that skit. Make the murderers feel horrible.", "Sgtpinkie said:abortionsTbh im sad my whore mum didnt do abortion on me why should kids be born in this shit world", "2340922 said:Tbh im sad my whore mum didnt do abortion on me why should kids be born in this shit world", "2340922 said:Tbh im sad my whore mum didnt do abortion on me why should kids be born in this shit worldRiping it out and not getting pregnant aren't the same thing", "Amazing to think that giving birth would somehow ruin this foid's night when she's going to go copulate with her boyfriend anyway. Teehee let me dance and drink for a bit it doesn't matter. RIP the kid would have been a fully grown person by now", "What a disgusting whore, foids don't care about their children at all.", "That is disgusting and scary", "Sitokirment said:", "Aaaand why Dylan and Eric didn't to something about it?.", "LiterallyASoyboy said:What a disgusting whore, foids don't care about their children at all.", "jerrycan dan said:Amazing to think that giving birth would somehow ruin this foid's night when she's going to go copulate with her boyfriend anyway. Teehee let me dance and drink for a bit it doesn't matter. RIP the kid would have been a fully grown person by nowJust imagine for the ascensioncels(liberal roastie) or escortcels, that they are most likely sticking their dick into a hole of death, where there was a corpse inside there. Feels disturbing, when you really think about it.", "PM_ME_STRIPPERS said:im pro choice teeheepro murder", "Muh the empathetic gender my arse.", "The thought of that makes me sick even today after all the shit I've seen on the internet.", "soulartemis said:This was in 1997 btw.Today she'd be hero. Invited on talkshows, washed up foid celebs would have a march in her honor, the whole thing.", "Holy fucking shit", "blockhead24 said:Holy fucking shitThe way it’s described like she was just throwing away a piece of trash and going about her day not giving a fuck", "If a man punches a pregnant woman in the stomach and the baby dies, he gets life in prison for murder.Roasties kill thousands of babies every day and they're encouraged.", "soulartemis said:The way it’s described like she was just throwing away a piece of trash and going about her day not giving a fuckGruesome Even tho I really dont like kids, that's just wrong", "She will probably get out for good behaviour after half that time, there is no justice.", "-BrettyBoy- said:Fuck her.I love ur Avi buddy boyo dedsrs.Also JFL at the cucked judicial system.", "Mega Coper said:I love ur Avi buddy boyo dedsrs.Also JFL at the cucked judicial system.Thanks, man.", "1997 my guy. Thats old, my guy", "Hikikomori said:I hope she gets mangled in a car accident tbh.", "LiterallyASoyboy said:What a disgusting whore, foids don't care about their children at all.", "HONK HONK", "think about what would happen if a man took his wife's newborn child and killed it.", "I wonder what the future holds", "The idea of having to spend time off the chad carosuel and having to raise her child instead was too traumatic for her to handle so she decided to leave the baby in a trash can instead so she could continue to live her life in debauchery. Society: what a brave and strong woman" ]
I have gone beyond saving, i think i am gay now
[ "I found myself refusing to masturbate to porn involving women and i only masturbate to shemales and traps now , HEEELP am i beyond saving ? have anyone of you  returned to normal if so how ?I also want to say that a big portion of truecels is lost, some are lurking in r/foreveralone and others are dead , so may them rest in peace .", "Traps arent gay dude.", "Watching shemale porn isn't gay imo.", "Pretty_When_I_Cry said:Traps arent gay dude.I like it when they are lubeled up with their pale skin, and their dick is small like  a clitty but the shaft of the balls is kinda long enough like in distance from the asshole. its weird how the base of their dick all after some distance you find balls", "As the above posters said, traps aren't gay.", "foreignincel said:I like it when they are lubeled up with their pale skin, and their dick is small like  a clitty but the shaft of the balls is kinda long enough like in distance from the asshole. its weird how the base of their dick all after some distance you find ballsYumm.", "11gaijin said:As the above posters said, traps aren't gay.Here in france escort celling cost a lot, like it's 80$ the hourPretty_When_I_Cry said:Yumm.i used to hear songs from lana Del rey and think about the lyrics and think about my waifi haha good times , i was a lot more suicidal before i found r/incels", "Then go get your ass fucked, faggots can't be incel.", "u prob just have a fetish for ppl you think would accept u. no shame in that.", "foreignincel said:Here in france escort celling cost a lot, like it's 80$ the hourtry australia where its pretty much double that for 30 mins", "weservenomsg said:u prob just have a fetish for ppl you think would accept u. no shame in that.tfw a feminine good looking very girly and affectionate trap liking me have more probability than any womin out there", "Trap porn is still straight porn, there is scientific evidence that straight ppl get attracted to traps and also statistical data that shows most trap porn is consumed by straight guys.Listen to me, i have actually fucked a trap and i mostly consume trap porn and yet i can't be with guys, i tried hooking up with guys and it just doesn't work, i can't get hard and i feel no attraction to guys, no excitement at all. The difference btw a proper trap and a guy is night and day, totally different vibe.I honestly wish i was gay, it would make getting laid easier and probably LTR too, but it just doesn't work that way, at least not for me.So i would probably say you are not gay, but there's one way to find out :x", "PM_ME_STRIPPERS said:try australia where its pretty much double that for 30 minsi want true consensual ultimate validation , only a girl from a western civilization where she can pick any chad she want can give me that validation by choosing me, a validation that is washed from all copes", "foreignincel said:i want true consensual ultimate validation , only a girl from a western civilization where she can pick any chad she want can give me that validation by choosing me, a validation that is washed from all copesnot denyin that, just pointing the difference in rates around the world, you should be lucky you live in a country with cheap FHOS who sell their bodies for roots, instead of living in a cucked out country like australia, where everything is expensive and roots cost an arm and a leg.Although prostitutes arent really my thing anyway...", "foreignincel said:I found myself refusing to masturbate to porn involving women and i only masturbate to shemales and traps now , HEEELP am i beyond saving ? have anyone of you  returned to normal if so how ?I also want to say that a big portion of truecels is lost, some are lurking in r/foreveralone and others are dead , so may them rest in peace .Do this brah, with like 30 sec before you cum ,put your finger between your asshole and balls, like almost near the asshole, and start  pushing there while jerking off, you will feel a different kind of pleasure. I do this from time to time, not too often bcs I feel gay after, mostly when I am bored of the basic masturbation", "Raver said:Do this brah, with like 30 sec before you cum ,put your finger between your asshole and balls, like almost near the asshole, and start  pushing there while jerking off, you will feel a different kind of pleasure. I do this from time to time, not too often bcs I feel gay after, mostly when I am bored of the basic masturbationI wanted to cross that line after i lose my virginity at least , i do not want to loose my ass virginity before my dick virginity that will be the ultimate suicidefuel", "foreignincel said:i want true consensual ultimate validation , only a girl from a western civilization where she can pick any chad she want can give me that validation by choosing me, a validation that is washed from all copesThis. This is also one of the things I hate about BDSM porn, btw: it's always just about sadism and masochism and rape fantasies. But I want SLAVES IN LOVE. I want a girl who WANTS to be a slave girl. Female rape fantasies have a kind of female power in it, because the idea is that the women has so much power over the man, that the man simply cannot resist and simply must rape her. Actual power would be if the woman WANTS to be one's slave girl etc. Also, the idea of having to pay someone just to touch you is just depressing. Every touch is a reminder that she would never do that willingly. You must pay her to feel what others get for free. I think that's fucking painful to imagine. I mean, maybe I WILL do it eventually because my cock isn't as sensitive as my brain and I will only feel shit afterwards, but still ... there's something depressing to it. And something that makes you angry at women and feminists, because they are like the borg. Men have so many different preferences but women are all the same and all want teh same things and men. But my anger towards women isn't sexualized in the same way. Hate, anger, revenge fantasies .... in my cases they are all rather unsexual and don't involve rape or something.", "foreignincel said:I wanted to cross that line after i lose my virginity at least , i do not want to loose my ass virginity before my dick virginity that will be the ultimate suicidefueellol, I don't touch my asshole while doing it", "If a guy liking traps is straight, what is it when a trap is straight and dates girls?", "id fuck a trap in about 3 seconds, 2 if i got a running start but its gay as fuck bro its over now", "Bro i have the same problem when im outside i only focused on males. I will look at their facial feautures and judge if they are a chad.When i see femoids i try to avoid eye contact cuz i hate them simple, i dont want give them that feeling that they are pretty or something. And i know im not gay but the blackpill made me like this.", "11gaijin said:As the above posters said, traps aren't gay.@11gaijin (LooksMax.org) is still unbanned, I see...This site was indeed once a LGBT paradise.", "The whole thread sounds gay as fuck. Fags.is", "eurocel said:Then go get your ass fucked, faggots can't be incel.your profile pic and your respond it matches to this post", "Pretty_When_I_Cry said:Traps arent gay dude.Glad this faggot got banned a long time ago.", "surprised the mods haven’t banned you for this thead", "just realised this is from 2017 wtf", "Incel_Dikshit said:Bro i have the same problem when im outside i only focused on males. I will look at their facial feautures and judge if they are a chad.When i see femoids i try to avoid eye contact cuz i hate them simple, i dont want give them that feeling that they are pretty or something. And i know im not gay but the blackpill made me like this." ]
VentingNone of you know the pain of being a redcel
[ "My face is red. My whole cheeks are always red, literally all the time, when I do exercise, get nervous, or when its too cold or too hot it gets even worse, Im a literall freak. I probably have some kind of extreme disease. Theres no truer incel than a redcel, I dont even belong in any particular race, Im white supposedly. If you are curry or asian you can at least have friends and a semi normal life without friends, I cant. People look at me in the streets, laugh at me,take pictures of me and they usually think Im mentally retarded. I constantly look around when Im outside and I never see any other redcel, and if I do they are always like 1/10 of my redness, jfl.You dont know true pain unless you are a true redcel. See this red faggot? I wish I was as redd as him, Im 10 times redder. The red area is similar (mine is a little bigger). Jfl its so fucking over.", "Literal redskin.", "Are you a brit by any chance?", "I would trade brown for red", "It's over for tomatocels", "It's over for rosaciacels", "DaveBuster said:Are you a brit by any chance?No", "Try being brown.", "Are you the devil or something?", "Nativecel or Ethnicel?", "Only foids can pull off the red look, it makes them look like they're blushing. As always men get the short end of the stick.", "Hellboymaxxed.", "I get called out all the time for my red face. Then even more people look at me to see how red my face is, so of course it gets even redder.People act like it’s something I can actually change. Honestly it’s the same as if an obese person walked into a room and everyone always pointed out “look at how fat you are.”", "Make a thread when you reach this level of redness tbh tbh", "Having red face seems annoying as fuck with that said, I'd trade my bad acne and its scars for a red face everytime. Believe me you dont want acne scars, it'll fuck your social life up!", "zangano1 said:My face is red. My whole cheeks are always red, literally all the time, when I do exercise, get nervous, or when its too cold or too hot it gets even worse, Im a literall freak. I probably have some kind of extreme disease. Theres no truer incel than a redcel, I dont even belong in any particular race, Im white supposedly. If you are curry or asian you can at least have friends and a semi normal life without friends, I cant. People look at me in the streets, laugh at me,take pictures of me and they usually think Im mentally retarded. I constantly look around when Im outside and I never see any other redcel, and if I do they are always like 1/10 of my redness, jfl.You dont know true pain unless you are a true redcel. 117035 See this red faggot? I wish I was as redd as him, Im 10 times redder. The red area is similar (mine is a little bigger). Jfl its so fucking over.I have the same problem and I also get nervous and blush pretty much during any kind of social interaction so it's always there I suspect it could be rosacea.", "Look on the bright side op. You can join RED Indians and ascend with a cute pocahontas.", "It can give you a weird halo but im not sure if its a good one. stravinsky said:Hellboymaxxed.", "Try not only having an asymmetrical face, but having hideous acne and acne scars as well. Life has been brutal.", "zangano1 said:My face is red. My whole cheeks are always red, literally all the time, when I do exercise, get nervous, or when its too cold or too hot it gets even worse, Im a literall freak. I probably have some kind of extreme disease. Theres no truer incel than a redcel, I dont even belong in any particular race, Im white supposedly. If you are curry or asian you can at least have friends and a semi normal life without friends, I cant. People look at me in the streets, laugh at me,take pictures of me and they usually think Im mentally retarded. I constantly look around when Im outside and I never see any other redcel, and if I do they are always like 1/10 of my redness, jfl.You dont know true pain unless you are a true redcel. 117035 See this red faggot? I wish I was as redd as him, Im 10 times redder. The red area is similar (mine is a little bigger). Jfl its so fucking over.Get treatment for rosacea.", "You can still run JBW .in Asia.", "Saung-Hui Cho said:Honestly it’s the same as if an obese person walked into a room and everyone always pointed out “look at how fat you are.”Except that being fat is something completely voluntary.", "@tomato", "Lets hope it isn’t over, man.", "What if u tannedmaxx?", "I’m not always red but as you, but I also become really red when exercising or embarked and people have mocked me for it in the past", "Gingers are treated the worst", "Red faced males are the most oppressed creature in the history of mankind" ]
I cant even bring myself to kill spiders anymore
[ "Even though I have a phobia of them, I don't feel like killing as I usually would even if there is one near me. I mean, the poor things don't deserve to be hated and quashed just because they appear frightening or ugly - I can empathize with them in a way.", "Blackpill is borderline Buddhism. I actually developed more empathy for living things like Spiders that are hated for no reason after taking it. Still no empathy for roasties though I much prefer them dead.", "Gas every spider, they repulse me.", "/pol/cel said:Blackpill is borderline Buddhism. I actually developed more empathy for living things like Spiders that are hated for no reason after taking it. Still no empathy for roasties though I much prefer them dead.It's ironic how the folks over at Inceltears paint us as these irredeemable psychopaths, yet being incels has only made us more empathetic. I remember back when I was a kid (Maybe 9 or 10) I was an ignorant asshole, I believed that those who were suffering had only themselves to blame. Then after I became depressed, I shed my black-and-white view of the world.I agree though, roasties are the worst.", "Minjaze said:It's ironic how the folks over at Inceltears paint us as these irredeemable psychopaths, yet being incels has only made us more empathetic. I remember back when I was a kid (Maybe 9 or 10) I was an ignorant asshole, I believed that those who were suffering had only themselves to blame. Then after I became depressed, I shed my black-and-white view of the world.I agree though, roasties are the worst.Thats not a new thing. One of the preludes to genocide and mass murder is dehumanizing the enemy to such an extent that killing them simply becomes a chore and not something that causes moral or ethical conflict. If they had their way modern society would take up machetes and go all Rwanda on us.", "/pol/cel said:Thats not a new thing. One of the preludes to genocide and mass murder is dehumanizing the enemy to such an extent that killing them simply becomes a chore and not something that causes moral or ethical conflict. If they had their way modern society would take up machetes and go all Rwanda on us.Well said.They paint us as these beings pure evil so their rabid persecution of us seems valid. It's easier to look at someone you hate as a single-trait stormtrooper caricature instead of a 3-dimensional person with thoughts and feelings.", "Sergeantincel said:I agree, but would you mind expanding how you see that view?>>It causes ego death>>Makes you detached from mainstream life>>May even bring you inner peace>>Feels like sone form of enlightenment. Realizing its hopeless and just letting go completely feels like a manifestation of nirvana.>>You may even gain an appreciation for other aspects of life like the OP.Maybe Buddha was actually blackpilled his whole objective was understanding the nature of suffering.", "/pol/cel said:Sergeantincel said:I agree, but would you mind expanding how you see that view?>>It causes ego death>>Makes you detached from mainstream life>>May even bring you inner peace>>Feels like sone form of enlightenment. Realizing its hopeless and just letting go completely feels like a manifestation of nirvana.>>You may even gain an appreciation for other aspects of life like the OP.Maybe Buddha was actually blackpilled his whole objective was understanding the nature of suffering.Well, he was a fat manlet. Makes sense.", "I have no regard for their life if they trespass into my house, same with any other pest. If they are outside, then I leave them alone.", "I know man, I have more love for these creatures than I do for most humans.", "if you arent killing spiders 24/7 its over xDDDDDDD", "Cope, those spiders have slayed more than you ever will. You're basically just a cuck for not killing them.", "Minjaze said:Even though I have a phobia of them, I don't feel like killing as I usually would even if there is one near me. I mean, the poor things don't deserve to be hated and quashed just because they appear frightening or ugly - I can empathize with them in a way.Most femorrhoids hate spiders, so I let them live.", "they are abominations, manifestations of Satan himself. They have far more in common with females than incels.", "I never kill spiders. Only insects I'll kill are mosquitoes, roaches, and flies.", "You're likely a sociopath. You may want to get that checked out.", "RREEEEEEEEE said:Well, he was a fat manlet. Makes sense.@RREEEEEEEEE Incorrect.The Buddha (Siddhartha Gautama) is said to be an exceptionally good-looking person. What you are referring is the Fat Buddha, named Hotei. He is a Chinese invention that came much later on.I hate it when people confuse the two...", "Spiders are evil incarnate. I'd like to travel and visit other countries but those bastards make it impossible.", "/pol/cel said:>>It causes ego death>>Makes you detached from mainstream life>>May even bring you inner peace>>Feels like sone form of enlightenment. Realizing its hopeless and just letting go completely feels like a manifestation of nirvana.>>You may even gain an appreciation for other aspects of life like the OP.Maybe Buddha was actually blackpilled his whole objective was understanding the nature of suffering.Beautifully said brother. Fucking beautiful, if it werent for some of you guys' posts like this I wouldve really lost it.", "Circlemarveljerk said:@RREEEEEEEEE Incorrect.The Buddha (Siddhartha Gautama) is said to be an exceptionally good-looking person. What you are referring is the Fat Buddha, named Hotei. He is a Chinese invention that came much later on.I hate it when people confuse the two...Thanks for clarifying. I'll remember this from now on.", "Every living creature has no value. It's insignificance is laughable.", "/pol/cel said:Blackpill is borderline Buddhism. I actually developed more empathy for living things like Spiders that are hated for no reason after taking it. Still no empathy for roasties though I much prefer them dead.Same, I have a strong case of arachnophobia. When I was younger(4-5), I use to step on them and kill them. Now I capture them in a glass container and release them, so they could live out their existence. I still very much hold strong feelings of aversion and discomfort when around these creatures, so capturing them in a glass container is no easy task. I have to exercise a strong form of self-control, that is due to the fact, that my body wants to naturally recoil from such a creature, when I push my hands closer to the spider, in an attempt to capture it in a glass container, I feel like bomb diffuser, one wrong misstep and the bomb explodes (or the spider jumps on my skin.)I feel it is unjust for me to exercise my power over this creature simply because I have some type of primordial preprogrammed aversion/fear to this creature. They are just another form of the will to live, they are life just like me, and no matter how inferior their existence is when compared to my higher human existence, it is not just to take away their existence from them.Furthermore, just like Immanuel Kant and Arthur Schopenhauer mentioned, when you harm animals(or lower forms of life), you do harm to yourself, you abandon your higher position as a higher animal and descended into the realm of lower animals, animals that are governed by lower emotions, by fear and pleasure.", "Minjaze said:the poor things don't deserve to be hated and quashed just because they appear frightening or ugly - I can empathize with them in a way.Foids OTOH steal their meals for fun and don't care about the starvation consequences.Your browser is not able to display this video.Spiders deserve to rape foids." ]
RageFuelThis movie scene enraged me to no end
[ "I just can't believe it. Chad in this scene is even named CHAD. JFL, if this was me I would kill him on the spot.", "consuming any form of popular media as an incel is a guarantee for high doses of suicidefuel.", "Isnt the protagonist or the actor some bluepilled normalfag that has a foid already?", "Poor Michael Cera, BTFO in bluepilled films", "wereqryan said:THIS is RUTHLESS!!I know, right? If it was me, I would fucking strangle him on the spot.", "Does that chad die in that movie?", "Brutal. That movie should come with a rope rather than tampons", "Blackpilled moment in bluepilled cuckwood film.", "mybodyisrotting said:Brutal. That movie should come with a rope rather than tamponsAbsolutely.", "The scene that gets me mad is from the movie Nymphomaniac when the character Seligman (an incel) tries to fuck the nymphomaniac slut who has fucked 1000s of men, but she refuses and kills him. He literally comes up to her with his dick in hand and she pushes him away and he says, b-b-but you fucked thousands of men but then she shoots him dead.Before this scene, he was acting like some emotional tampon just soaking up her stories of fucking strangers and being beaten by Chad. After he leaves her room, he comes back to find her asleep. That's when he attempts to fuck her. ", "It’s over for many men, man. Just not good, man.", "Reality tbh.", "damn that scene really sums the whole Intrasexual landscape up in less than 50 seconds", "funny thing is the roastie barely mogs the incel. she should be glad he talks to her since she's an aged, used slag with utterly subhuman pheno utter cuck cope at the end. the prick gets the girl", "I can’t believe May 2019 was already over 2 years ago " ]
BlackpillHoly shit:Depression shrinks your brain
[ "Chapter 6: What Happens inside Peoples Brains when theyre Depressed?Stress and depression can cause cells to shrink in the brains memory and emotion center (the hippocaumps and amygdala). Heres how.psycheducation.orgjust fucking lol....incels cant winyour brain is literally rotting as we speakit is OGRE", "Maybe I'll rope before this a problem", "Be happy incel, society needs you as cuck with bigger mental capacity", "It’s so over for many men. So what now? This isn’t good.", "-BrettyBoy- said:It’s so over for many men. So what now? This isn’t good.Either LDAR, rope, or uprising, you choose", "TheSecondComing said:Either LDAR, rope, or uprising, you chooseYou forgot cope as an option.", "TheSecondComing said:EithER LDAR, rope, or uprising, you choose", "TheSecondComing said:Maybe I'll rope before this a problemThis.i don't intend to live long enough for this to become a problem.", "-BrettyBoy- said:You forgot cope as an option.Cope ", "TheSecondComing said:Cope Society has gone to hell.", "iq is a shit cope. No mensa certificate for your recessed mandible", "TheSecondComing said:Maybe I'll rope before this a problemThere’s no way I won’t", "You can reverse it with exercise.", "I realized that it seems like with time I'm becoming dumber,turns out that's literally happening.Soon most men will become really dumb,dumber than foids.At that point the society will collapse", "TheSecondComing said:Maybe I'll rope before this a problem", "DeformAspergerCel said:iq is a shit cope. No mensa certificate for your recessed mandible", "Braincel14w said:You can reverse it with exercise.yeah it should reversible if you havent been in depressed for more than 3 years i guess.", "Holy shit that's why I couldn't concentrate at school.FaceandHFD said:yeah it should reversible if you havent been in depressed for more than 3 years i guess.Damn, I'm quite sure I've been depressed ever since I was 14... I'm 22 now.", "TheSecondComing said:Either LDAR, rope, or uprising, you choose", "From what i see from the graph it seems like they forced the linear fitting. Not enough data.I dont say there is no decline, but it probably saturates at some value.", "It's probably true because i can't think straight anymore,my mind is blank.", "Sennacherib said:It's probably true because i can't think straight anymore,my mind is blank.", "Braincel14w said:You can reverse it with exercise." ]
Is it creepy that I literally wanna lick a girl?
[ "Like lick her skin like you lick icecream or you know how cats like you, they must legit taste like chocolate especially JBs lets not lie to ourselves here, their tight skin looks so deliciousI feel like this makes me a creep, I can imaigne a girl reading this and going ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww", "They'll go ewwwww either way so you might as well creepmaxx.", "Angry_runt said:They'll go ewwwww either way so you might as well creepmaxx.No girl wants to let me do it, would legit lick everything but the pussy cause that shit gives you mouth cancer", "why stop at licking. might as well go all-in and bite the fuck out of her.", "Being ugly by default makes everything that you do creepy", "builderseed said:why stop at licking. might as well go all-in and bite the fuck out of her.", "JB's are lickable", "Wouldn't be weird if you were chad", "FinnCel said:Wouldn't be weird if you were chad", "I'd lick and suck on their nipples, would be cool. Cucks lick their armpits and other gross shit though.", "Emergency Manual said:I'd lick and suck on their nipples, would be cool. Cucks lick their armpits and other gross shit though.They do it in JAV, ngl it looks hot, and most if not all girls shave their armpits so its not that disgusting tbh", "If you were a chad they would be wet from you licking them", "No. I do too!", "Total Imbecile said:They do it in JAV, ngl it looks hot, and most if not all girls shave their armpits so its not that disgusting tbhI guess that's different, Japanese people don't have body odor or at least very little due to not having as many apocrine glands as other races. I just imagine licking a white girls armpit and getting my tongue coated in bacteria shit. Another reason why asians are superior to white women.", "Total Imbecile said:No girl wants to let me do it, would legit lick everything but the pussy cause that shit gives you mouth cancerThat's true, in fact the leading cause of oral cancer is HPV. It can sit idle for years, even decades, and one day a lump appears.Licking foids cunts is literally 9x more dangerous than using smokeless tobacco.", "Hikikomori said:That's true, in fact the leading cause of oral cancer is HPV. It can sit idle for years, even decades, and one day a lump appears.Licking foids cunts is literally 9x more dangerous than using smokeless tobacco.I was laughing out but its true eating a girls snatch is dangerous NEVER DO IT.licking a girls leg ngl pretty hot", "Creepy only if she ugly", "mybodyisrotting said:Being ugly by default makes everything that you do creepy", "builderseed said:why stop at licking. might as well go all-in and bite the fuck out of her.bite her ear off mike tyson style", "mybodyisrotting said:Being ugly by default makes everything that you do creepyThis! You could help an old Lady cross the street and everybody would be like: Ewww!! What a creep!!", "If you were chad they wouldn’t say EWbuilderseed said:why stop at licking. might as well go all-in and bite the fuck out of her.Just be ted bundy theory", "Licks me.", "jojos me", "No, perfectly normal.", "they think youre creepy because of looks anyway, so this doesnt matter.", "Total Imbecile said:Like lick her skin like you lick icecream or you know how cats like you, they must legit taste like chocolate especially JBs lets not lie to ourselves here, their tight skin looks so deliciousI feel like this makes me a creep, I can imaigne a girl reading this and going ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwThey go ewwwwwwwww every time they realise a sub6 male has a regular sexual drive", "No it's not i also would like to lick a jb's skin ngl, but if you would also want to lick there pussies you're a cuck ded srs.", "Maybe after a girl took a shower I'd lick her skin as a build up for sex but I dont see the appeal of just licking somebody", "Only if you're sub7 and sub6'0.", "Only chad is allowed to do that", "Only creepy if you're ugly", "normal tbh. being horny and not getting action makes you think all kinds of things.", "be low inhib and based and just go lick a hot girl's suntanned arm bro", "Total Imbecile said:Like lick her skin like you lick icecream or you know how cats like you, they must legit taste like chocolate especially JBs lets not lie to ourselves here, their tight skin looks so deliciousI feel like this makes me a creep, I can imaigne a girl reading this and going ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwdeprivation fucks your brain up over time , i want girls crushing animals with their heels while moan and laughing sadisticly , the best things are heel impalesthis fetish got from toys to living things in a span of 4-5 years , now i want the cruelest girls only . crushing without finesse isnt fun to watch anymore", "Not really tbh", "Macrocephalus said:They go ewwwwwwwww every time they realise a sub6 male has a regular sexual driveYup and suck chad and tyrone off everytime they do, fuck this gay earth", "Yes I want to as well. But we aren’t chad so it’s creepy", "builderseed said:why stop at licking. might as well go all-in and bite the fuck out of her.It is necassary for some protein.But no, it is not creepy at all. This is completely fine.Joelossus said:No it's not i also would like to lick a jb's skin ngl, but if you would also want to lick there pussies you're a cuck ded srs.No, you have to lick everything and then eat it. You have to eat everything. It is necessary for your protein intake.", "I forgot if it was an anime or what but I used to watch this series and in the series the main guy licks this girls underarms and ever since then I've wanted to lick a loli's smooth bare underarmsThen there's the obvious toe-sucking. Nipple biting/teasing. I want to suck on her nape. I want to feel her clavicles against my palms. I want to bite one of her butt cheeks. I want to lick her behind her knee. So many things I would be able to do if I was born better looking but now all of that is a fantasy and I will never know how a female tastes like.", "FinnCel said:Wouldn't be weird if you were chadFoids with love if Chad licked their bodies like a sweet donut, candy or ice cream cone.", "i fantasize about this all the time", "Pumkin said:ever since then I've wanted to lick a loli's smooth bare underarmsnow thats quality bait for IT kek", "It's not creepy its normal if your deprived of female contact like us", "Total Imbecile said:Like lick her skin like you lick icecream or you know how cats like you, they must legit taste like chocolate especially JBs lets not lie to ourselves here, their tight skin looks so deliciousI feel like this makes me a creep, I can imaigne a girl reading this and going ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwYep", "ihaveno1 said:i fantasize about this all the time", "Yes, it's creepy. (I overheard some foids talking about it once.) But I figure as long as you don't lick any fakeup it seems like a great idea! But it freaks foids out! That makes it sweeter!", "No not creepy. I assume most guys want to lick a foid some way or another.", "No, if you're Chad.", "I would lick a foid but nothing gross like feet, ass or armpits tbh", "I wanna lick a foids vagina", "Total Imbecile said:Like lick her skin like you lick icecream or you know how cats like you, they must legit taste like chocolate especially JBs lets not lie to ourselves here, their tight skin looks so deliciousYour browser is not able to display this video.presidential", "Total Imbecile said:Like lick her skin like you lick icecream or you know how cats like you, they must legit taste like chocolate especially JBs lets not lie to ourselves here, their tight skin looks so deliciousI feel like this makes me a creep, I can imaigne a girl reading this and going ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwLicking is natural" ]
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[ "deleted", "Diocel said: 472392based bump", "Banned", "insightful", "OP went ER.", "What did he wrote?", "Extremely based members will be banned ", "Miyanu said:What did he wrote?Im getting sucked off right now", "kikecel said:Im getting sucked off right nowI wish i didnt asked thx fren. I hope he gets syphilis", "Miyanu said:I wish i didnt asked thx fren. I hope he gets syphilisnot really I just made it up don't make yourself feel bad bro make yourself comfy", "kikecel said:not really I just made it up don't make yourself feel bad bro make yourself comfy thx i appreciate that" ]
BlackpillMy tribute to our saint. RIP Elliot Rodger
[ "5 years ago on this day, 22 year old Elliot Rodger killed 6 people and injured 14 others in the town of Isla Vista, Santa Barbara, before killing himself.Before his act of homicide/suicide, he left behind a 141 page manifesto titled My twisted World which contained more than 117 000 words. He detailed every experience of his life from birth to his final moments, in accordance to his superior memory.In a video just over 6 minutes long, he detailed his sexual frustrations and his anger at women for rejecting him.However, after reading his manifesto, it became apparent that contrary to the image created by the media of a sexually frustrated virgin killer, Elliot Rodger had problems well beyond not being able to obtain a partner for a romantic/sexual relationship.It came as no surprise that Elliot suffered from years of loneliness. While his mild autism hindered his ability to socialise, his social isolation was as a result of being continuously excluded by his peers in social interactions: he was humiliated by the girls in his grade for most of his school life; he was mocked, ridiculed and laughed at by classmates on a regular basis. He was shunned by teachers, while his bullies were given no punishment and free license to continue treating him like a piece of dog shit. When Elliot graduated from high school and went to college, he was no longer bullied. He was simply ignored and rejected without being given a chance to show himself worthy of friendship/companionship.The human survival instinct is incredible. No matter how much suffering a human being endures, their subconsciousness will always tell them to do whatever it takes to survive. For someone to commit suicide, it takes not only a great deal of courage but also suppression of this survival instinct. With this in mind, I've always been fascinated as to how someone can over-ride their subconscious mind and take their own lives.Every year around the world, 800 000 people are estimated to take their own lives. financial difficulties are a factor which can cause someone to commit suicide, majority of suicides can be attributed to breakdown of relationships/bullying. In the case of Elliot Rodger, bullying definitely played a significant role in determining the course of his short life.I don't condone Elliot Rodger's actions. No matter what, it is always wrong to take the lives of innocent people. The media was quick to condemn the loss of lives of these innocent people. But why is it that society only cares about the loss of innocent lives when a shooting rampage/mass murder occurs? Why is society silent while literally hundreds of thousands of innocent lives are lost every year around the world due to suicide? If Elliot Rodger had simply committed suicide without killing others, no one would have cared about his death. Other than his immediate family, no one would spare even a minute from their lives to pay tribute to him. He would just become another statistic in a world where facts/statistics are ignored/overlooked; while virtue-signalling and political correctness are prioritised.Whilst bullying is the major cause of suicide, it is unfortunately a significant factor behind homicides. Elliot Rodger is an example of the rare, yet increasingly common occurances in which an individual who has been bullied not only commits suicide, but commits suicide preceded by the act of homicide. When someone is backed into a corner, they will fight back. When someone is continuously pushed and pushed until they are at the edge, they will either fall by themselves to their death or they will reach out with their hand and bring down as many people as they can with them. What Elliot did is not justifiable, but it is understandable.Once again, what Elliot did was terrible. But if his actions lead to greater awareness of bullying and prevention of thousands more suicides in the long-run, then at least the 6 people who were killed and Elliot Rodger's lives would not have been lost in vain; at least something positive can be gained from such objectively negative chain of events. Sometimes lives must be sacrificed for the greatER good. Many lives were sacrificed in the past to enable the people of the present to live in safety, security and comfort. And likewise, lives will be sacrificed in the present for the generations of the future. This is just human nature.But the question arises, why do mass-murders need to happen for people to realise the deadly consequences of bullying? Why is it necessary for lives to be taken for people to start treating the members of their fellow species with basic respect? The lives lost in mass-murders in which the perpetrator was a victim of bullying, didnt need to be lost in the first place if people simply learnt to treat everyone, irregardless of their appearance or social standing, as human beings. Elliot Rodger may have pulled the trigger, but it was his bullies who pulled his strings. Murdering others and causing someone to murder others is the same thing, at least in my opinion. If Elliot's bullies had never bullied him, i really cant imagine him not being alive today. Elliot Rodger's bullies are just as responsible for the Isla Vista mass-murder as Elliot himself. Bullies deserve to be seriously punished.He was just an innocent person whose soul was slowly corrupted by the disgusting, wretched, depraved species which is humanity. Elliot Rodger may be dead, but he will be alive in memory. He will be alive in the hearts of those who will carry his legacy. He will never be forgotten. Society portrays him as a villain, but in a cruel and twisted world, the perceived villain is the real hERo. Society views him as a monster, but what most people dont realise is that monsters are not born, they are created.RIP Elliot Rodger (July 24, 1991 – May 23, 2014), the true victim of society.", "High IQ, but Elliot did nothing wrong", "Based and high iq", "jerrycan dan said:High IQ, but Elliot did nothing wrongwhat Elliot did was terrible^Added in that statement for any FBIcels in here.", "ER was a retard, but it's more the idea he represents, and that's why he's based", "jerrycan dan said:Elliot did nothing wrong", "IncelKing said:what Elliot did was terrible^Added in that statement for any FBIcels in here.Gotcha.TheSecondComing said:ER was a retard, but it's more the idea he represents, and that's why he's based", "TheSecondComing said:ER was a retard, but it's more the idea he represents, and that's why he's basedHe was very aware of the flawed nature of society for a retard i must say.", "IncelKing said:He was very aware of the flawed nature of society for a retard i must say.I personally don't think he was mentally handicapped. His ability to reflect on life generally came off as high average to high intellect.", "High iq and based", "IncelKing said:He was very aware of the flawed nature of society for a retard i must say.Yeah he was aware alright but I didn't mean literal mental retardation if that's what you're getting at", "ER was a low IQ aspie manlet dumbass, but he didn't allow himself to get cucked. RIP two ricecels who got in his way during his aspie rage.", "anon said:ER was a low IQ aspie manlet dumbass, but he didn't allow himself to get cucked. RIP two ricecels who got in his way during his aspie rage.Definitely. muh 10/10 blonde stacy ", "TheSecondComing said:ER was a retard, but it's more the idea he represents, and that's why he's based^This. He had so many opportunities to get revenge on the people who actually bullied and ostracized him, and he goes after some normies and ricecels. Pathetic imho, but I still honor him for being one of the first people to wake me up to the blackpill.", "TheSecondComing said:Yeah he was aware alright but I didn't mean literal mental retardation if that's what you're getting atIT didnt even come across my mind that you would be meaning literal mental retardation as he was clearly on the opposite end of the intelligence spectrum as compared to actual literal retards. I assumed you were just referring to the aspie psychological framework of his superior brain when using that derogatory and disrespectful term to refer to our Saint.Adolf_Hitler said:I personally don't think he was mentally handicapped. His ability to reflect on life generally came off as high average to high intellect.yeah when i used the word retard, i was using @TheSecondComings words, not my own. Anyone who reads Elliot's manifesto which contains content of enlightening nature written in a very sophisticated, intelligent and poetic way can understand that Elliot Rodger was a high IQ, based individual.", "Elliot said himself that it's lack of loving gf, not bullying, made him go er. Bullying would do nothing to you if you come home from school to loving stacy blonde jb gf. Foids simply hate people who typically get bullied (low value males), so it creates illusion that school shooters go er because of bullying.", "we love you Elliot.. no matter where you wound up, we know your story, struggle and life. We will rememberGangsta Rape said:Elliot said himself that it's lack of loving gf, not bullying, made him go er. Bullying would do nothing to you if you come home from school to loving stacy blonde jb gf. Foids simply hate people who typically get bullied (low value males), so it creates illusion that school shooters go er because of bullying.which I call bullshit on, he probably thought that it was ALL love, but it wasn't. He wanted to be validated, and in his mind only a female could give it to him. The validation need definitely comes from neglectful parents and bullyinganon said:ER was a low IQ aspie manlet dumbass, but he didn't allow himself to get cucked. RIP two ricecels who got in his way during his aspie rage.fuck you, those same ((incels)) bullied him. Fuck off", "Gangsta Rape said:Elliot said himself that it's lack of loving gf, not bullying, made him go er. Bullying would do nothing to you if you come home from school to loving stacy blonde jb gf. Foids simply hate people who typically get bullied (low value males), so it creates illusion that school shooters go er because of bullying.Gangsta RapeRecruit-Joined Nov 8, 2017Messages 69You yourself acknowledge the link between bullying and one's appearance, which is the primary cause of inceldom. If someone has been bullied significantly in their childhood, there's a high likelihood that they are of low genetic value and unable to find romantic/sexual relationships. Therefore if not having love/sex makes someone go ER and then you can say that in most of the cases being bullied makes someone go ER, as there is a strong positive correlation between the two variables", "IncelKing said:what Elliot did was terrible^Added in that statement for any FBIcels in here.High IQAlso mods won't ban you", "Rest in peace Elliot. You were a brave man forced to the point of self-destruction.. You are in a better place now. We shall keep your legacy alive for as long as we can, not just for you but for the rest of our brothers that are in the same situation.", "(Users: 27, Guests: 74)Hi IT cucks", "IncelKing said:(Users: 27, Guests: 74)Hi IT cucks Eat my shit fucking lurkers", "Only wrong things Elliot did, is killing those poor ricecels. But even that not wrong, if they were simpcucks. Sad not more chads ans stacies were taken out", "Napoleon de Geso said:Only wrong things Elliot did, is killing those poor ricecels. But even that not wrong, if they were simpcucks. Sad not more chads ans stacies were taken outBro this is the first comment i've seen you make in which you didnt mention wanting a cute loli waifu. Nice progress, St Elliot would be proud of you", "Happy St. Elliot's day. One of many more to come", "Woah i never knew he were born 91 like me. He would be an oldcel if he was alive today.", "IncelKing said:Bro this is the first comment i've seen you make in which you didnt mention wanting a cute loli waifu. Nice progress, St Elliot would be proud of youTo fix this: with Elliot's looks I could do better than him or me, because I would go after cute adorable alternative lolis. Imagine punkmaxxed or emomaxxed Elliot. What a cute emopunk boy, pusis of cute emopunkgirls be wet ¤_¤", "heroinfather said:which I call bullshit on, he probably thought that it was ALL love, but it wasn't. He wanted to be validated, and in his mind only a female could give it to him. The validation need definitely comes from neglectful parents and bullyingI'm not saying love is all, but it's most important, the second most popular reason for suicide (30%) after depression is problems in relationship, not bullying. It's not advantageous to say you go er because of no gf anyway, normies would sympathize with him more if he just said he go er because of bullying or because world is awful - like most school shooters did. But the reason he is so based is because he simply tell the truth. Who in the right mind would go er while having gf? Saying that er went er because of bullying is just normie appeasement at this point - they love to fake concern for victims of bullying, but they never even try to do the same for victims of females.", "bump", "St. Elliot Rodger (PBUH)", "DeformAspergerCel said:Happy St. Elliot's day. One of many more to come", "Good post. It is better than my corresponding one.", "TheSecondComing said:ER was a retard", "Gangsta Rape said:Bullying would do nothing to you if you come home from school to loving stacy blonde jb gf.", "Didn't read but this is very based", "Happy Saint Elliot's Day 2020!", "ER's struggles are relatable, but he is not my saint because the execution of his plan was woefully inept.It's similar to Christopher McCandless (from Into the Wild) who receives far more praise than he deserves for running away from civilization to live in the Alaskan bush when he only survived a few months during the warmest time of the year. Compare that to Dick Proenneke (from Alone in the Wilderness) who survived Alaska's unforgiving winters for decades.Getting back to ER, his numbers pale in comparison to Cho's. His targets weren't as good as Lapine's. He was maybe on the same level as Sodini, so why does he get more recognition and praise than the others? Perhaps because of his well-written manifesto for people who think that words speak louder than actions? Was it the media attention he received? Or maybe his boyish looks? I dunno.I await the day when we see an incel who can combine ER's backstory with Stephen Paddock's flawless execution. At that time, I will be ready to crown a new saint. But for now it's a toss-up between Lapine and Cho.", "Sexdoll Pioneer said:ER's struggles are relatable, but he is not my saint because the execution of his plan was woefully inept.It's similar to Christopher McCandless (from Into the Wild) who receives far more praise than he deserves for running away from civilization to live in the Alaskan bush when he only survived a few months during the warmest time of the year. Compare that to Dick Proenneke (from Alone in the Wilderness) who survived Alaska's unforgiving winters for decades.Getting back to ER, his numbers pale in comparison to Cho's. His targets weren't as good as Lapine's. He was maybe on the same level as Sodini, so why does he get more recognition and praise than the others? Perhaps because of his well-written manifesto for people who think that words speak louder than actions? Was it the media attention he received? Or maybe his boyish looks? I dunno.I await the day when we see an incel who can combine ER's backstory with Stephen Paddock's flawless execution. At that time, I will be ready to crown a new saint. But for now it's a toss-up between Lapine and Cho.only a low IQ idiot looks at kill count. I analyze the objective cost/benefit of their actions for the incel community.Cho was just a mass shooter who happened to be incel, he never left behind a manifesto clearly stating that it was his sexual frustration which led to his violent actions (unlike Elliot), Cho didnt do shit for the incel community. Elliot was the one who raised awareness of our issues and brought inceldom to the spotlight.", "IncelKing said:only a low IQ idiot looks at kill count. I analyze the objective cost/benefit of their actions for the incel community.Cho was just a mass shooter who happened to be incel, he never left behind a manifesto clearly stating that it was his sexual frustration which led to his violent actions (unlike Elliot), Cho didnt do shit for the incel community. Elliot was the one who raised awareness of our issues and brought inceldom to the spotlight.Only a low IQ idiot solely focuses on words while completely disregarding actions. The ideal saint would clearly lay out his reasons and then execute his plan a lot better than ER who couldn't even make his way into a fucking sorority house. If THAT's the guy you want to be your hero, fine, but I think we can do a lot better.Tbh, the incel saint title is still up for grabs. To repeat what I wrote in my last post: I await the day when we see an incel who can combine ER's backstory with Stephen Paddock's flawless execution. At that time, I will be ready to crown a new saint.", "Sexdoll Pioneer said:Only a low IQ idiot solely focuses on words while completely disregarding actions. The ideal saint would clearly lay out his reasons and then execute his plan a lot better than ER who couldn't even make his way into a fucking sorority house. If THAT's the guy you want to be your hero, fine, but I think we can do a lot better.Tbh, the incel saint title is still up for grabs. To repeat what I wrote in my last post: I await the day when we see an incel who can combine ER's backstory with Stephen Paddock's flawless execution. At that time, I will be ready to crown a new saint.You are focussing on ACTIONS, im focussing on OUTCOMES of ACTIONS. hey you low IQ retard read thisHeres Why Elliot Rodger Is Celebrated By Incels Over Others Who More Appropriately Fit The LabelI think many people misunderstand why Elliot is celebrated, often saying he was volcel and there were better individuals that deserve saint hood, well I cant speak for everyone, but for me personally it had to do with 3 things 1. Time - He just did his stuff in the right era, the media often...incels.is", "He chose death before dishonor which is understandable for our kind as what did his future truly have in store for him save for more sadness, humiliation, loneliness, cruelty and shame?Also his scumbag derelict parents and society would only get ever more bolder and strident about blaming him for his supposed shortcomings as he got older and demanding he “take responsibility” and “man up” even though they the hypocrites who would issue this challenge to him would never dare examine and take responsibility for their own lives and actions or lack of actions rather, that resulted in Elliot suffering so very badly.", "Didnt read, but rip ER", "zangano1 said:Didnt read, but rip ERif you didnt read then dont pollute threads with your shitty didnt read post-maxxing comments. People like you are the reason high IQ posters like blkpillpres are getting tired of the forum and very soon will leave the forum entirely.", "IncelKing said:if you didnt read then dont pollute threads with your shitty didnt read post-maxxing comments. People like you are the reason high IQ posters like blkpillpres are getting tired of the forum and very soon will leave the forum entirely.", "he had good ideas", "Gangsta Rape said:Elliot said himself that it's lack of loving gf, not bullying, made him go er. Bullying would do nothing to you if you come home from school to loving stacy blonde jb gf. Foids simply hate people who typically get bullied (low value males), so it creates illusion that school shooters go er because of bullying.Post ratio to hours online , just wow", "Vanilla latte tribute", "Bump, happy saint Elliot Rodger day", "jerrycan dan said:High IQ, but Elliot did nothing wrongThis", "Paid respects to the Prophet Rodger (Peace Be Upon Him) on this blessed day. May he be with us and provide his guidance when the beta revolution occurs. May he bring the hammer of justice down upon normies and sexhavers on Judgement Day.", "Elliot Rodger Zindabad!Happy Saint Elliot Rodger day fellowcels", "Misogynist Curry 卐 said:Elliot Rodger Zindabad!Happy Saint Elliot Rodger day fellowcelsLong live the saint", "TheSecondComing said:ER was a retard, but it's more the idea he represents, and that's why he's basedAgreed. It what he did. Not who he was. I guess." ]
BlackpillUnconditional Love Is A Misnomer
[ "First off love doesn't exist, its all physical attraction, but even within the context of love as it is portrayed in media, there is always a condition, be it personality, looks, wealth, simliar interests, etc, everything has a conditionI don't think people see the irony of a concept like unconditional love, if love was unconditional, then that means there is no security in it, because without conditions that you meet and others don't meet, what's to stop someone from unconditionally loving someone else lol. Since there are no conditions, they can just branch off to anyone else and love them based on no conditions too. Conditions means rules and criteria, without those, there is no stability, structure or security to a relationship. Of course normies don't actually use their fucking brains at all and are pretty much just NPC's being carried through life like a leaf through the breeze so they don't realize this.Normies just like the romanticism and feelings associated with the phrase so they toss it around a lot but they don't actually think about words, their meanings, the implication of their meanings, etc, normies just don't really think period.For blackpillers, life is like an action rpg, we assess our strengths and weaknesses and make decisions based on them, for normies its just an endles sequence of QTE's (Qiuck Time Events) and they just make a simple choice every now and then and just watch things play out, its like they aren't even conscious, I have conversations with some of them every once in a while and it feels like you are talking to a different species, they don't think for themselves when it comes to anything, they are completely devoid of introspective thought, I've met a rare few who are normies and yet they aren't completely NPC's, and those are very rare.", "hardest part of the blackpill to swallow. Foids arent capable of loving anyone unconditionally", "Of course normies don't actually use their fucking brains at all and are pretty much just NPC's being carried through life like a leaf through the breeze.@BlkPillPres 2019As a human, you cannot experience love.", "There is a chad only condition females tend to fall victim to have when they're given a choice" ]
JFLThey want danny devito to play wolverine.
[ " DeVito to play this tacitly proves that lookism/ judginess of looks is alive and well.Because to even to ahead and make this boldly happen implies all the hoops/ resistance still out there. Or else it wouldn't be a bold goal. Its implications should actually hurt baldcel manletcels italian currycels like him.", "Numales are obsessed with that cuck", "Only chads get to be the heroes", "Dionysus said:Only chads get to be the heroeswhat kind of cel do you round devito into", "Eugenicist said:what kind of cel do you round devito intoWell he is status maxxed and moneymaxxed but hes a manlet on the other hand. I think it's over for him tbh", "Dionysus said:Well he is status maxxed and moneymaxxed but hes a manlet on the other hand. I think it's over for him tbhtheres no recovering from being 4'10", "angrycurrycel said:theres no recovering from being 4'10I knew he was short but I didn't know it was that bad damn", "zangano1 said:Numales are obsessed with that cuckThey're coping", "I am going to be so sad for him when Pfeiffer does a surprise-cameo alongside Keaton in the upcoming Flash movie but he can't be in it because his char diedthough they could do a sort of Blackest Night which brings back Nicholson/DeVito as zombiescan't believe this is realGotham City Villains Anniversary Giant Vol 1 1The Penguin in Bird Cat Love: The synopsis for this issue has not yet been written. The ends dont justify the means. Not in my city. Batman (Bruce Wayne) Gotham City Villains Anniversary Giant #1 is a one-shot with a cover date of January, 2022. It was published on November 30, 2021...dc.fandom.comfound the full thing online if anyone wants to read (shitty site tho beware the popup ads)Gotham City Villains Anniversary Giant - Read Gotham City Villains Anniversary Giant comic online in high qualityRead Gotham City Villains Anniversary Giant comic online free and high quality. Unique reading type: All pages - just need to scroll to read next page.readcomiconline.li", "zangano1 said:Numales are obsessed with that cuck" ]
Only thing worser than being an incel is... (Animepil)
[ "Being an incel whos into animeIs there a more degenerate interest?", "Being a weeb is a common contributor toward being an incel.[img=198x194]", "I liked DBZ as a kid.", "DBZ is a normie show.", "Yu Yu Hakusho is the GOAT anime.", "Pretty sure anime cope has prevented me from suiciding many times so I'm okay with that", "legit its over", "Cannon Fodder said:DBZ is a normie show.Exactly. I don't cope with weeb activities.", "Major cope, if chad watches anime he's a nerdy chad. It's all about the face.", "eurocel said:Major cope, if chad watches anime he's a nerdy chad. It's all about the face.but chad doesnt watch chinese cartoons :huh:", "I used to be really big into it, but now I'm not.I only have this username because it was my username on r/Incels.", "a-virgin-nigger said:Yu Yu Hakusho is the GOAT anime.Just started watchin it, 5 episodes in. Love old anime that actually have substance and not braindead one-dimensional characters.And watching anime is the consequence, not the cause of inceldom.", "Everyone watches anime these days, especially niggers and spics (although I'm not sure why).", "Before I got blackpilled I ironically liked Welcome to the NHK and romanticised my shut-in existence. But by now every cope (anime, movies, Vidya, music, books) stopped working. T-minus 2 month tbh.", "a-virgin-nigger said:Yu Yu Hakusho is the GOAT anime." ]
Fakecels here are like healthy people in cancer patients support groups
[ "They have NO reason to be there. If you have had non paid sex with a willing female you are NOT an incel. You are some failed Normie and you couldimprove your quality of life if you tried. Instead, you just whine here about being lonely rather than manning up, realizing your superiority and takingaction. Just remember the time(s) you have had sex and let those memories boost your confidence. You have a CHANCE at a better life. Pursue it andlet us subhumans be.", "the failed normie life is identical to the incel life", "weservenomsg said:the failed normie life is identical to the incel lifePretty much, they will leave when they get their shit togather.", "The most important thing they don't realise to just NOT PARTICIPATE in DISCUSSIONS THAT INVOLVE ADMITTING THE FACT WHETHER YOU HAD SEX. Noone will know you're a fakecel if you don't go rubbing it around every 5th post you fucking make, so how about shut the fuck up and don't reveal the fact?", "incelkingkong said:The most important thing they don't realise to just NOT PARTICIPATE in DISCUSSIONS THAT INVOLVE ADMITTING THE FACT WHETHER YOU HAD SEX. Noone will know you're a fakecel if you don't go rubbing it around every 5th post you fucking make, so how about shut the fuck up and don't reveal the fact?They are that stupid apparently", "...", "...", "...View: ", "There are no fakecels on here." ]
Blackpill[Hard To Swallow Edition] - Women Were Not Happier Under A Patriarchy, They Are Happier Today More Than Ever Before
[ "This is another cope that needs to be ended, one that is widely held by traditionalistsToday women get to ride the cock carousel and still have a beta provider waiting for them at the end of it all, rather than having to immediately settle for and pair up with said beta provider in their early years. You have to be coping to believe the red pilled meme of women just want to have babies and be in committed relationships deep down, its society poisoning them Nope, women love fucking around, yes they want to have babies too, but now they can fuck around and have babies, and society foots the bill with taxes, women have barely any consequences to their actions today. You are coping if you think women of the past are happier than women today are, when with the swipe of a finger they can get gangbanged by chads, and have a beta pay all of their bills and support their lifestyle, all with barely any effortYou grab the average woman from the patriarchal past and place her in the present, and give her a year of living like a modern woman, and when presented with the option of going back, SHE WILL REFUSE, and it won't be because she'll miss the technological advancementsWOMEN OBVIOUSLY WEREN'T HAPPIER WITH RESTRICTIONS ON THEIR CHOICES, SEXUAL HABITS, WEALTH ACCUMULATION, ETC.Believing otherwise is just a cope men give themselves so they can think there is still hope of returning to the good times:If only we could just show women what they are missing out on and show them why they are now unhappy, its also a cope by men so that they can hold onto the false concept of the wholesome woman, that deep down they are good, and we just need to remind themJFL, they aren't unhappy, the only thing women have deep down is more room in their cunt for chad cockAny man who doesn't realize that women today are happier than they have ever been is LYING TO THEMSELVES They will site articles about women who had their eggs frozen to pursue their careers and now they can't have children because something went wrong, and they'll copeSEEEEE SEEEEEE, they only realize to late what they really wanted deep down, this is our revenge on women JFL, watch them suffer JFL at these copesNo you fucking idiot, they wanted both, they wanted to have their cake and eat it too, that failure in their life doesn't mean they didn't want to be a whore and fuck Chads endlessly, that failure doesn't mean they didn't enjoy the past successes (successes in their book)Coping idiots like to phrase scenarios like this as women realizing that they missed out on what they really wanted, when in actuality, it was just a woman chasing after the things she wanted in her best years, and being naive thinking that she still had time to pursue her SECONDARY GOALS.So to all the traditionalist copers, please stop it, for your own good, you know full well women are happier today, women regretting the end result of their whorish choices doesn't take away from the fact that they THOROUGHLY ENJOYED THOSE CHOICES, and if you asked any of them if they could do it over again, would they make the same choices, THEY WOULD ANSWER YES, or probably just get their beta provider earlier and cheat on him with Chad, so they can BOTH get to fuck chad and reproduce", "tldr, no stats included said:you can disagree with stats all you'd like lol, your nonsensical sophistry cooked up inside your peanut brain based on infantile assumptions of power dynamics with nothing more than empty dismissals behind it (as per expected) means absolutely nothing", "I couldnt care less about women happiness", "What about the researches that show female happiness levels are diminishing?BlkPillPres said:You grab the average woman from the patriarchal past and place her in the present, and give her a year of living like a modern woman, and when presented with the option of going back, SHE WILL REFUSE, and it won't be because she'll miss the technological advancementsThat's like saying that if you got a man and made him snort cocaine a couple of times, he would afterwards want to keep using it.What you want ins't always what makes you happy or even what's good for you, especially in the long run. A modern foid might have a blast with Chads while young, but I'd bet the old women from the past, looking at their huge families, were happier than old women are today with their cats or 2 betabuxx kids at best. And by old I mean 30-40+, not like 80+.", "DeformAspergerCel said:tldr, no stats included to expand...1. Dude everybody has stats, this is why things have to be rationalized with logic, a debate where people just toss studies, and stats back and forth doesn't prove anything, and doesn't convey the intelligence of those debating, it only conveys the intelligence of those who actually took part in creating the academic works being citedWomen are happier without children or a spouse, says happiness expertBehavioural scientist Paul Dolan says traditional markers of success no longer applywww.theguardian.com“Married people are happier than other population subgroups, but only when their spouse is in the room when they’re asked how happy they are. When the spouse is not present: fucking miserable,” he said.“We do have some good longitudinal data following the same people over time, but I am going to do a massive disservice to that science and just say: if you’re a man, you should probably get married; if you’re a woman, don’t bother.”Men benefited from marriage because they “calmed down”, he said. “You take less risks, you earn more money at work, and you live a little longer. She, on the other hand, has to put up with that, and dies sooner than if she never married. The healthiest and happiest population subgroup are women who never married or had children,” he said.Dolan’s latest book, Happy Ever After, cites evidence from the American Time Use Survey (ATUS), which compared levels of pleasure and misery in unmarried, married, divorced, separated and widowed individuals. The study found that levels of happiness reported by those who were married was higher than the unmarried, but only when their spouse was in the room. Unmarried individuals reported lower levels of misery than married individuals who were asked when their spouse was not present2. What was the criteria used to measure happiness in the stats you gave, that's extremely relevant, by what criteria is happiness being defined and how as the data collected, and can that data even be trusted based on its collection method, because we all know from personal experience people speak fondly about being in a relationship even when things are rocky, especially if their significant other is present", "Mainländer said:What about the researches that show female happiness levels are diminishing?That's like saying that if you got a man and made him snort cocaine a couple of times, he would afterwards want to keep using it.What you want ins't always what makes you happy or even what's good for you, especially in the long run. A modern foid might have a blast with Chads while young, but I'd bet the old women from the past, looking at their huge families, were happier than old women are today with their cats or 2 betabuxx kids at best. And by old I mean 30-40+, not like 80+.High iq and good analogy.", "BlkPillPres said:1. Dude everybody has stats, this is why things have to be rationalized with logic, a debate where people just toss studies, and stats back and forth doesn't prove anything, and doesn't convey the intelligence of those debating, it only conveys the intelligence of those who actually took part in creating the academic works being citedWomen are happier without children or a spouse, says happiness expertBehavioural scientist Paul Dolan says traditional markers of success no longer applywww.theguardian.com2. What was the criteria used to measure happiness in the stats you gave, that's extremely relevant, by what criteria is happiness being defined and how as the data collected, and can that data even be trusted based on its collection method, because we all know from personal experience people speak fondly about being in a relationship even when things are rocky, especially if their significant other is presentthe issue is that that's not what's being discussed. You specifically made the claim that women are happier now than they were under patriarchal rule, which is something that you need to prove using facts. Arguments back and forth mean nothing if your point of departure is ultimately incorrect. You can arrange a logical system (logical in the sense that it's internally consistent) but if some of the axioms that you set up in order to arrive at your conclusion are flawed, the conclusion obviously becomes incorrect in the sense that it doesn't map unto reality despite being logically consistent. For instance, if it is within the female nature to crave submission and there are no strong patriarchal forces in society to fulfill that need, is it not reasonable to expect some sort of malfunction in the way females feel? What you're assuming is that granting females autonomy always leads to more happiness, and I can think out a plethora of ways in which this COULD be incorrect. This is why studies are needed and from what I can find, they all seem to agree with the conclusion which you called moronic", "Mainländer said:What you want ins't always what makes you happy or even what's good for you, especially in the long run.False analogy, what if cocaine had no side effects, no withdrawal symptoms, it was like weed but with the high of cocaine, you enjoyed doing it, you wanted to do it badly, but if you didn't you could go without it for a while, even quit it, that's what being a modern woman is like, its not like a regualr drug addiction like you are trying to classify it, women face little to no consequences for being a whorish modern woman, there is no downside really and trulyMainländer said:A modern foid might have a blast with Chads while young, but I'd bet the old women from the past, looking at their huge families, were happier than old women are todayIts you deciding that they were happier with your own criteria for happiness, you're PROJECTING YOUR WANTS ONTO WOMENMainländer said:with their cats or 2 betabuxx kids at best. And by old I mean 30-40+, not like 80+.Literally what I was talking about in the thread, you guys are coping, that shit is the exception to the rule, most women today get to fuck chad and easily fall back onto their plan B beta provider, still get to have children and not die alone, and in some cases the children are Chads kids, paternity fraud is higher than ever than it was before, women are living a dream today, its a cope to tell yourself - they pay for it in the long run", "Maybe they are indeed happier (until they become middle-aged)", "DeformAspergerCel said:the issue is that that's not what's being discussed. You specifically made the claim that women are happier now than they were under patriarchal rule, which is something that you need to prove using facts. Arguments back and forth mean nothing if your point of departure is ultimately incorrect. You can arrange a logical system (logical in the sense that it's internally consistent) but if some of the axioms that you set up in order to arrive at your conclusion are flawed, the conclusion obviously becomes incorrect in the sense that it doesn't map unto reality despite being logically consistent. For instance, if it is within the female nature to crave submission and there are no strong patriarchal forces in society to fulfill that need, is it not reasonable to expect some sort of malfunction in the way females feel? What you're assuming is that granting females autonomy always leads to more happiness, and I can think out a plethora of ways in which this COULD be incorrect. This is why studies are needed and from what I can find, they all seem to agree with the conclusion which you called moronicIDK dude, I'm also going to assert that black people weren't happier during times of slavery or segregation, their family unit may have been more stable, but they weren't happier with MORE RESTRICTIONS, nobody is ever happier with MORE RESTRICTIONS ON THEIR LIFE CHOICES, if you are seriously arguing that a fucking study and statistical data is required to say something like this, then I don't know what to tell you, I'm not going to spend hours searching up and compiling stats to argue the obvious, something that can be argued with logic The african american community and segregation is a good parallel between women and women's rights, when both sides had their restrictions removed, their family units suffered, but their INDIVIDUAL LIVES improved, the end result of people being able to MAKE MORE CHOICES is OBVIOUSLY THE POSSIBILITY THAT MORE BAD CHOICES CAN BE MADE.Saying that women were happier in the past is like saying a caged animal is happier since it doesn't have to deal with much predators, mabye said animal sees having to deal with predators as a decent tradeoff to having actual freedomNormieKiller said:Maybe they are indeed happier (until they become middle-aged)Cope, this is just another variation of the old cat lady meme, most women just end up with a betabux, and reproduce, even have some of Chads kids unbeknownst to the beta provider, who never realizes till he gets them tested (if he ever does)", "BlkPillPres said:False analogy, what if cocaine had no side effects, no withdrawal symptoms, it was like weed but with the high of cocaine, you enjoyed doing it, you wanted to do it badly, but if you didn't you could go without it for a while, even quit it, that's what being a modern woman is like, its not like a regualr drug addiction like you are trying to classify it, women face little to no consequences for being a whorish modern woman, there is no downside really and trulyPromiscuity does have consequences, especially for women. Ok, they may not be as harsh as the ones from hard drugs, but they do exist.BlkPillPres said:Its you deciding that they were happier with your own criteria for happiness, you're PROJECTING YOUR WANTS ONTO WOMENI'm pretty sure women are more keen on having babies than men are, and suffer more negative effects on average when they don't do it.BlkPillPres said:Literally what I was talking about in the thread, you guys are coping, that shit is the exception to the rule, most women today get to fuck chad and easily fall back onto their plan B beta provider, still get to have children and not die alone, and in some cases the children are Chads kids, paternity fraud is higher than ever than it was before, women are living a dream today, its a cope to tell yourself - they pay for it in the long runWhat about all the talk about women's happiness declining then? It's all bullshit?", "BlkPillPres said:IDK dude, I'm also going to assert that black people weren't happier during times of slavery or segregation, their family unit may have been more stable, but they weren't happier with MORE RESTRICTIONS, nobody is ever happier with MORE RESTRICTIONS ON THEIR LIFE CHOICES, if you are seriously arguing that a fucking study and statistical data is required to say something like this, then I don't know what to tell you, I'm not going to spend hours searching up and compiling stats to argue the obvious, something that can be argued with logic The african american community and segregation is a good parallel between women and women's rights, when both sides had their restrictions removed, their family units suffered, but their INDIVIDUAL LIVES improved, the end result of people being able to MAKE MORE CHOICES is OBVIOUSLY THE POSSIBILITY THAT MORE BAD CHOICES CAN BE MADE.Saying that women were happier in the past is like saying a caged animal is happier since it doesn't have to deal with much predators, mabye said animal sees having to deal with predators as a decent tradeoff to having actual freedomBut you will make a thread calling everyone that disagrees with what you think is a water is wet statement retarded when it in fact seems to be highly controversial according to the researchers to say the least, if you're not entirely wrong", "Cope, antidepressant prescriptions for foids are now sky high tall, they are extremely depressed since without fucking they don't have anything else meaningful in life.", "I can't wait for a washed up generation of STD infected, wine chugging whores! Oh boy!", "Sad shit, man.", "I think that women who are mothers in a stable family are happier than women who are single mothers. Women who are in a system that encourages them to gracefully mature and be maternal become happier than women who just age into used up lonely fuckholes.It's like taking care of a dog, if you spill a bag of dog food on the floor the dog is just going to keep eating and eating. The dog is going to be happier while it's eating yes, but it's going to be really unhappy when it starts throwing up and having stomach problems later.Too much, uncontrolled access to sexuality is like spilling the bag of dog food on the floor. While they're indulging the women are going to be having fun but they're making themselves miserable long term.@Mainländer & @DeformAspergerCel , great posts! I totally agree. ", "Very few enjoy being caged", "BlkPillPres said:This is another cope that needs to be ended, one that is widely held by traditionalistsToday women get to ride the cock carousel and still have a beta provider waiting for them at the end of it all, rather than having to immediately settle for and pair up with said beta provider in their early years. You have to be coping to believe the red pilled meme of women just want to have babies and be in committed relationships deep down, its society poisoning them Nope, women love fucking around, yes they want to have babies too, but now they can fuck around and have babies, and society foots the bill with taxes, women have barely any consequences to their actions today. You are coping if you think women of the past are happier than women today are, when with the swipe of a finger they can get gangbanged by chads, and have a beta pay all of their bills and support their lifestyle, all with barely any effortYou grab the average woman from the patriarchal past and place her in the present, and give her a year of living like a modern woman, and when presented with the option of going back, SHE WILL REFUSE, and it won't be because she'll miss the technological advancementsWOMEN OBVIOUSLY WEREN'T HAPPIER WITH RESTRICTIONS ON THEIR CHOICES, SEXUAL HABITS, WEALTH ACCUMULATION, ETC.Believing otherwise is just a cope men give themselves so they can think there is still hope of returning to the good times:JFL, they aren't unhappy, the only thing women have deep down is more room in their cunt for chad cockAny man who doesn't realize that women today are happier than they have ever been is LYING TO THEMSELVESThey will site articles about women who had their eggs frozen to pursue their careers and now they can't have children because something went wrong, and they'll cope JFL at these copesNo you fucking idiot, they wanted both, they wanted to have their cake and eat it too, that failure in their life doesn't mean they didn't want to be a whore and fuck Chads endlessly, that failure doesn't mean they didn't enjoy the past successes (successes in their book)Coping idiots like to phrase scenarios like this as women realizing that they missed out on what they really wanted, when in actuality, it was just a woman chasing after the things she wanted in her best years, and being naive thinking that she still had time to pursue her SECONDARY GOALS.So to all the traditionalist copers, please stop it, for your own good, you know full well women are happier today, women regretting the end result of their whorish choices doesn't take away from the fact that they THOROUGHLY ENJOYED THOSE CHOICES, and if you asked any of them if they could do it over again, would they make the same choices, THEY WOULD ANSWER YES, or probably just get their beta provider earlier and cheat on him with Chad, so they can BOTH get to fuck chad and reproduceThis is the most brutal blackpill I've seen in a long time depressing tf out of me ", "Can't say I completely agree seeing promiscuous women statistically have far less happier and stable marriages, whilst being more likely to be depressed. Are they happy that they're given complete freedom that allows them to completely indulge themselves in egotistical hedonism? Yeah I guess so However, does it negatively impacts them in the long term? YesDespite this, they don't want to admit that this is the reality because that would threaten their privellages", "BlkPillPres said:nobody is ever happier with MORE RESTRICTIONS ON THEIR LIFE CHOICESWomen and children are the only exceptions to this rule. If society gave children the freedom to do whatever they want to do, do you seriously believe they would be happier in the long run than they would be if they were controlled by their parents? Many children would stay up all night to play video games, never go to school, and sacrifice long-term happiness for short-term pleasure.Because women are just as irrational as children, they're incapable of maximizing their long-term self-interest. If the average woman was rational, she would get into a long-term relationship with the highest quality man available to her when she is at the peak of her sexual attractiveness in her teens or early twenties. Instead of doing this, the average woman rides the cock carousel until the wheels fall off. Then she either settle for a betabux that she will divorce later or becomes a bitter single mom who cannot properly raise children. Most young women want to have children but they are incapable of understanding that they sacrifice their future offspring quality by delaying motherhood until their 30s. Younger women have healthier children on average than older women.The more educated a woman is, the higher the likelihood that she will die bitter and childless and never pass on her genes. Why is that the case? Because higher education often makes women extremely arrogant and conceited and convinces them that no man is good enough for them. The most intelligent women have the lowest birthrate. If even many of the smartest women are incapable of making sound life decisions, that is all the more reason to believe that patriarchy benefits women in the long-run.The african american community and segregation is a good parallel between women and women's rights, when both sides had their restrictions removed, their family units suffered, but their INDIVIDUAL LIVES improved, the end result of people being able to MAKE MORE CHOICES is OBVIOUSLY THE POSSIBILITY THAT MORE BAD CHOICES CAN BE MADE.The black single motherhood rate was much lower in the 1950s than the White single motherhood rate today. Most black women are obese, dysfunctional, welfare dependent single-moms who keep getting impregnated by low-life criminals. It's pretty obvious that black women would benefit from patriarchal discipline and control. By any objective measure, black women are worse off today than they were in the 1950s. They're literally uglier, stupider, and lazier than they were back then.When Lincoln abolished slavery, black women submitted to black men and monogamy became the norm in the black community until the 1960s. The black family unit benefited from the abolition of slavery. If feminism and women's rights never happened, there would be a lot less dysfunction and criminality in that community.", "yup coping if you don’t believe this", "It would be a cope if foids weren't retarded.You see foids getting to have their cake and eat it too. Objectively that's true. But what they feel is getting their cake, having it taken it away from them before they finish it, it being given to them, it being hidden away, on and on ad infinitum.They will never subconsciously get why Chad doesn't marry them and settle down. And it will irritate and embitter them beyond reason that they were used. Chad always wins, until he is no longer Chad (or gets falsely accused of rape).The reason foids are happier in the old school organized marital society is because Chad was never even on the table for them there to begin with. They're taught to know their place and be glad they're not getting ragdolled on the streets instead. The longing they feel for Chad in that scenario is no bigger a frustration than that I have over the fact that I'll never be rich.You're judging foid logic by the standards of male logic when the two are fundamentally different. We would just be happy we got to fuck at all. Women aren't because fucking is their birthright. It's fun but they're no more grateful for it than we are for oxygen.", "They are unhappy only when chad is not around", "Really the the thing about the black pill is that it's not just taking the most pessimistic stance by default. It's not about your common sense for social dynamics. It's about accepting observable evidence and research as the facts of life.And the same studies that confirm we are unfuckable also nigh universally claim that promiscuous women are less happy than monogamous women. They're depressed more often, they're bitter towards men more often, they have more regrets, and they commit suicide more often.You know the likes of the UN, academics, feminists would just LOVE to portray sexually liberated women are the happiest of all time, but even they're not cooking the books here.Choice is only good when you can handle making it. When a small baby is presented with two appealing toys at equal distance, they will react negatively, because they haven't developed to the point where they can choose one over the other yet. Women similarly cannot make the choice between a fuck buddy and a long-term mate; their heart is looking for both. Unlike the baby however, the woman doesn't grow out of this until like hard middle age.", "Quality thread, thought-provoking arugments on both sides", "Only cucks care about the opinions by toilets.", "BlkPillPres said:This is another cope that needs to be ended, one that is widely held by traditionalistsToday women get to ride the cock carousel and still have a beta provider waiting for them at the end of it all, rather than having to immediately settle for and pair up with said beta provider in their early years. You have to be coping to believe the red pilled meme of women just want to have babies and be in committed relationships deep down, its society poisoning them Nope, women love fucking around, yes they want to have babies too, but now they can fuck around and have babies, and society foots the bill with taxes, women have barely any consequences to their actions today. You are coping if you think women of the past are happier than women today are, when with the swipe of a finger they can get gangbanged by chads, and have a beta pay all of their bills and support their lifestyle, all with barely any effortYou grab the average woman from the patriarchal past and place her in the present, and give her a year of living like a modern woman, and when presented with the option of going back, SHE WILL REFUSE, and it won't be because she'll miss the technological advancementsWOMEN OBVIOUSLY WEREN'T HAPPIER WITH RESTRICTIONS ON THEIR CHOICES, SEXUAL HABITS, WEALTH ACCUMULATION, ETC.Believing otherwise is just a cope men give themselves so they can think there is still hope of returning to the good times:JFL, they aren't unhappy, the only thing women have deep down is more room in their cunt for chad cockAny man who doesn't realize that women today are happier than they have ever been is LYING TO THEMSELVESThey will site articles about women who had their eggs frozen to pursue their careers and now they can't have children because something went wrong, and they'll cope JFL at these copesNo you fucking idiot, they wanted both, they wanted to have their cake and eat it too, that failure in their life doesn't mean they didn't want to be a whore and fuck Chads endlessly, that failure doesn't mean they didn't enjoy the past successes (successes in their book)Coping idiots like to phrase scenarios like this as women realizing that they missed out on what they really wanted, when in actuality, it was just a woman chasing after the things she wanted in her best years, and being naive thinking that she still had time to pursue her SECONDARY GOALS.So to all the traditionalist copers, please stop it, for your own good, you know full well women are happier today, women regretting the end result of their whorish choices doesn't take away from the fact that they THOROUGHLY ENJOYED THOSE CHOICES, and if you asked any of them if they could do it over again, would they make the same choices, THEY WOULD ANSWER YES, or probably just get their beta provider earlier and cheat on him with Chad, so they can BOTH get to fuck chad and reproduceI never believed the women were happier in the past bullshit either. If women wanted a family and kids, they could easily have them at any age.They're happiest chasing chad cock.", "zangano1 said:I couldnt care less about women happiness", "BlkPillPres said:This is another cope that needs to be ended, one that is widely held by traditionalistsToday women get to ride the cock carousel and still have a beta provider waiting for them at the end of it all, rather than having to immediately settle for and pair up with said beta provider in their early years. You have to be coping to believe the red pilled meme of women just want to have babies and be in committed relationships deep down, its society poisoning them Nope, women love fucking around, yes they want to have babies too, but now they can fuck around and have babies, and society foots the bill with taxes, women have barely any consequences to their actions today. You are coping if you think women of the past are happier than women today are, when with the swipe of a finger they can get gangbanged by chads, and have a beta pay all of their bills and support their lifestyle, all with barely any effortYou grab the average woman from the patriarchal past and place her in the present, and give her a year of living like a modern woman, and when presented with the option of going back, SHE WILL REFUSE, and it won't be because she'll miss the technological advancementsWOMEN OBVIOUSLY WEREN'T HAPPIER WITH RESTRICTIONS ON THEIR CHOICES, SEXUAL HABITS, WEALTH ACCUMULATION, ETC.Believing otherwise is just a cope men give themselves so they can think there is still hope of returning to the good times:JFL, they aren't unhappy, the only thing women have deep down is more room in their cunt for chad cockAny man who doesn't realize that women today are happier than they have ever been is LYING TO THEMSELVESThey will site articles about women who had their eggs frozen to pursue their careers and now they can't have children because something went wrong, and they'll cope JFL at these copesNo you fucking idiot, they wanted both, they wanted to have their cake and eat it too, that failure in their life doesn't mean they didn't want to be a whore and fuck Chads endlessly, that failure doesn't mean they didn't enjoy the past successes (successes in their book)Coping idiots like to phrase scenarios like this as women realizing that they missed out on what they really wanted, when in actuality, it was just a woman chasing after the things she wanted in her best years, and being naive thinking that she still had time to pursue her SECONDARY GOALS.So to all the traditionalist copers, please stop it, for your own good, you know full well women are happier today, women regretting the end result of their whorish choices doesn't take away from the fact that they THOROUGHLY ENJOYED THOSE CHOICES, and if you asked any of them if they could do it over again, would they make the same choices, THEY WOULD ANSWER YES, or probably just get their beta provider earlier and cheat on him with Chad, so they can BOTH get to fuck chad and reproduceI don't think that the happiness that comes from chasing Chad as a woman is as consistence as settling down with a family. There is no way for the average foid to get a Chad to stay with her, she might experience some highs during her life with those ONS or short relations with Chad but that spoils her and every man after must live up to the previous Chad.", "acnescarcel said:yup coping if you don’t believe thisTrue, everyone who doesnt believe op is coping HARD", "EyesAreSoCold said:I don't think that the happiness that comes from chasing Chad as a woman is as consistence as settling down with a family.If that were true then apps like instagram and tinder would be replaced with apps to find beta bucks who look average, make good money and would be good family men.But no apps like that exist or will ever exist.", "Yeah that's why women are depressed and committing suicide en masse once they're not in their prime when they don't have a family and are a used up whore. That's why some of the much richest and powerful women are super unhappy right?I swear the Jews who were funding @Fontaine have to decided to start depositing $0.01 into your account for every thread you make like this. We all know the reason you attack traditionalism is because you're a rich fakecel escortcel, who can easily use his resources to find a traditional woman, but you'd rather live a hedonistic lifestyle having as much sex as possible while larping as an Incel.The Data simply doesn't add up with any of your arguments.", "Happiness is a retarded thing to measure. Also, as counter-intuitive as it seems, happiness isn't something most people strive for. People want to live passionate, purposeful lives, And with that comes strife. Although I think women are happier now than ever before, supposing if even that weren't the case, it's undeniable that they live more passionately, more purposefully, and with higher standard of living than men in these times.", "mylifeistrash said:If that were true then apps like instagram and tinder would be replaced with apps to find beta bucks who look average, make good money and would be good family men.But no apps like that exist or will ever exist.I don't think women really knows what's best for them. As they see it the absolute best thing is to have a gigachad that stays with them and that's fair but that is never gonna happen but since they get a little bit of chad from time to time they get addicted to it and their self esteem gets overinflated.", "High IQ thread. Foids no longer need most men for anything as they have been freed in all regards thanks to technology and laws and are completely free to whatever they want without consequence.Foids can get money from their own high paying jobs, cuck orbiters and welfare handouts. They can get children with attractive genes by fucking Chads and from sperm banks. They can get attention anywhere they go thanks to thirsty white knight orbiters, especially online. They can snap their fingers and have some thirsty orbiter to take care of the kids while they go out and fuck Chad.", "MGTOW on suicide watch.", "EyesAreSoCold said:I don't think women really knows what's best for them. As they see it the absolute best thing is to have a gigachad that stays with them and that's fair but that is never gonna happen but since they get a little bit of chad from time to time they get addicted to it and their self esteem gets overinflated.I think they know exactly what they want, however. They won't give average men a chance. Even below average women see themselves far about average men.It's not that women think beta bucks might be best for them. They actively despite beta bucks. They HATE non-chads.", "Those filthy creatures dont deserve happiness", "BrendioEEE said: 118149I'm one of the guys who used to be spamming this same chart, oh and all that chart shows is that the more sexual partners a woman has, the less likely she is to remain married, you are presupposing that being married and in a committed relationship makes one happy, and then projecting that presupposition onto the dataOne could look at this same chart and deduce that women are happier not being in a committed relationship and fucking around, hence why when they have more sexual experience, they are less likely to be satisfied by one man, so they leave himYou guys are copingInvalidusername said:Can't say I completely agree seeing promiscuous women statistically have far less happier and stable marriages, whilst being more likely to be depressed.JFL, please read over what you just said, they have less happier MARRAIGES, like @BrendioEEE , like I just told him, you are presupposing that being married would make women happy, clearly it doesn't, its ridiculous to argue - yes this person is happier doing X EVEN THOUGH I HAVE TO FORCE THEM TO DO IT WITH RESTRICTIONS lol, its a ridiculous cope, women don't like marriage, or comiited relationships, men like that shit, men like stability, women don't give a fuck, they just want to fuck Chad and do whatever they want whenever they want.Invalidusername said:However, does it negatively impacts them in the long term?YesHow, give me some examples, most women ride the cock carousel and then get a beta provider, how is that a loss, they got to have their cake and eat it to, and these days they are getting pregnant by Chad and cheating on the beta, while the beta helps raise the kids.", "BlkPillPres said:I'm one of the guys who used to be spamming this same chart, oh and all that chart shows is that the more sexual partners a woman has, the less likely she is to remain married, you are presupposing that being married and in a committed relationship makes one happy, and then projecting that presupposition onto the dataExcept that's not all the chart shows, the chart shows that the less partners a woman has, the more happy and fulfilled she is. Who's happier, the extreme minority of women who get Married and stay Married with the first guy they slept with until one of them dies, or the vast majority of women who are promiscuous and are reporting unhappiness levels and unfulfillment at extremely high levels the more their life progresses onward? Because the data shows in various different studies, whether it be the chart I showed there, or other data related to suicides, depression, unhappiness, etc, that its that second group that is experiencing unhappiness.We know from the data and science what makes women happy, and it's patriarchy, women may think they don't want it, but they do. They're very childlike and primitive when it comes to decision making, it's like a child who doesn't want to take a bath because they're not forced to. A Child will be happier when their body isn't rotting, and they aren't sick when they are forced to take care of themselves, but i'm sure there are many kids who don't want to.BlkPillPres said:One could look at this same chart and deduce that women are happier not being in a committed relationship and fucking around, hence why when they have more sexual experience, they are less likely to be satisfied by one man, so they leave himNo you really can't, we already know why women are more likely to initiate divorce after they have been with more than 1 man, or many men, it's usually the first guy who slept with and left her who committed the first evil, not her, he's the one who corrupted her, according to all the data in existence, women typically will not leave the first guy they sleep with in any sexual capacity, this is where the whole, Just be first meme comes into play, so when that guy leaves her, it fucks her mind hard, the more partners she then proceeds to get with, especially if they're Chad, or if they were Chad in the first place, makes her think her worth is of Chad, and her perception of her own self worth is highly twisted in her own mind because she thinks because Chad pumped and dumped her or various Chads pumped and dumped her, this must mean in her dumb femoid logic, that she's worthy of a long term relationship with Chad, she will never be satisfied until she has a partner who is as good as the best guy (looks or resources wise) who pumped and dumped her, it's not about her being happier by doing that, this logic leads to a very unfulfilling lifestyle, because her twisted dream will NEVER be fulfilled, because she is not and will never be worthy of Chad to settle down with her.BlkPillPres said:You guys are coping", "I bet a chimpanzee would be happy if society were to work in a way that benefited the chimpanzee's instinctive desires but it does not mean that it is just or good FOR the chimpanzee or everything else in general", "The more men feel sad the more women feels happy", "BrendioEEE said:Except that's not all the chart shows, the chart shows that the less partners a woman has, the more happy and fulfilled she is.Please tell me how the chart shows that, you are coping hard dude, its like you aren't even thinking your arguments throughWhat criteria was used to determine happiness or fulfillment?How as the data gathered?Please answer these questionsBecause happiness and fulfillment are very subjective things, so how did they gauge ones happiness and fulfillment, that's an extremely relevant question to ascertain if there is bias presentWhat kind of responses were documented as happy or unhappyThere are college campus studies done by feminists that show extremely ridiculous sexual assault stats, I think it was that famous 1 in 4 stat, women saying that they were grabbed by the shoulder and felt uncomfortable, etc had their responses added in as sexual assault, so they just broadened the scope to increase their numbers, and ended up with a stat saying - 1 in 4 women will be sexually assaulted on a college campusThis is why I call BS on such a study, happiness and fulfillment are not quantitative things, they are qualitative, so how did they quantify these things in a way in which they could state it as a stat.", "acnescarcel said:yup coping if you don’t believe this", "BrendioEEE said:it's usually the first guy who slept with and left her who committed the first evil, not her, he's the one who corrupted her, according to all the data in existence, women typically will not leave the first guy they sleep with in any sexual capacityGentlemen I present the mindset of the guys arguing against me on this topic, if you can't see how blue pilled this is, then you yourself are blue pilled, this is the typical mindset of a blue pilled traditionalist cuck1. At the end of the day its really just men's fault (its the man who committed the first evil and CORRUPTED the innocent and perfect woman, who definitely would never have been a whore if not for that corruption, she wasn't always like that too begin with2. Women are inherently good, and only become bad due to the influence of external forces (more infantalizing BS that gives women a pass on their actions)I half think you posted this line as a form of sarcasm, because noway you said this over to yourself, typed it out, read it, and said - yeah this is black pilled and logical, totally not blue pilled", "voiceoftreason said:MGTOW on suicide watch.kek But honestly high Iq thread with interesting arguments from both sides.I do believe that there are sluts out there,a minority of sluts who are truly happy chasing Cahds cock forever and are not striving for any kinds of married life with kids and a family.Where the real damage is done is the actual women who inherently wanted and dreamed to be mothers, wives at times stay at homes moms but who got brainwashed by the feminist narratives in College and followed the slut mass until they actually confess that they did regret it later.THERES A FUCK TON OF THEM on the RedPillWomen Subreddit.We called them the Reformed thots.Here's a reformed thots in the making getting brainwashed by the slut narrative:Pay attention to the asian on the right, what she asnwers and how unconfortable she is. she aboslutely does not fit the ''happy slut '' bill her friends are trying to print on her. probably a virgin waiting for the right guy...", "BlkPillPres said:Gentlemen I present the mindset of the guys arguing against me on this topic, if you can't see how blue pilled this is, then you yourself are blue pilled, this is the typical mindset of a blue pilled traditionalist cuck1. At the end of the day its really just men's fault (its the man who committed the first evil and CORRUPTED the innocent and perfect woman, who definitely would never have been a whore if not for that corruption, she wasn't always like that too begin with2. Women are inherently good, and only become bad due to the influence of external forces (more infantalizing BS that gives women a pass on their actions)I half think you posted this line as a form of sarcasm, because noway you said this over to yourself, typed it out, read it, and said - yeah this is black pilled and logical, totally not blue pilled", "BlkPillPres said:What criteria was used to determine happiness or fulfillment?How as the data gathered?Pretty sure its self reported, for example if I wanted to collect data on happiness in say a survey of around 100-1000 women, I would give them a questionnaire filled with various dummy questions, aswell as questions that pertain to the data I want to collect, such as how would you rate your happiness/fulfillment on this scale/chart/etcBlkPillPres said:Because happiness and fulfillment are very subjective things, so how did they gauge ones happiness and fulfillment, that's an extremely relevant question to ascertain if there is bias presentWhat kind of responses were documented as happy or unhappyThis is irrelevant, it doesn't matter if its subjective or not, if people more people are reporting they are happy, and people who are reporting they are happy are also reporting better and more active sex lives, and statistically are in longer marriages, aswell a myriad of other things. Sure are some of them lying? I'm sure they are, do some feel happiness in different ways? Sure, that's still irrelevant to the data/study. The only person coping, seems to be you by not being able to ascertain how this stuff works.BlkPillPres said:There are college campus studies done by feminists that show extremely ridiculous sexual assault stats, I think it was that famous 1 in 4 stat, women saying that they were grabbed by the shoulder and felt uncomfortable, etc had their responses added in as sexual assault, so they just broadened the scope to increase their numbers, and ended up with a stat saying - 1 in 4 women will be sexually assaulted on a college campusThis is why I call BS on such a study, happiness and fulfillment are not quantitative things, they are qualitative, so how did they quantify these things in a way in which they could state it as a stat.False equivalency, not all studies are equal, I autistically have read the intricacies of many studies, you're right that many studies are bullshit, this doesn't seem to be one of them, you just seem to be ignoring all data/statistics that point towards traditionalism being the right way, because you're a hedonistic degenerate who belongs on a cross.BlkPillPres said:Gentlemen I present the mindset of the guys arguing against me on this topic, if you can't see how blue pilled this is, then you yourself are blue pilled, this is the typical mindset of a blue pilled traditionalist cuck1. At the end of the day its really just men's fault (its the man who committed the first evil and CORRUPTED the innocent and perfect woman, who definitely would never have been a whore if not for that corruption, she wasn't always like that too begin with2. Women are inherently good, and only become bad due to the influence of external forces (more infantalizing BS that gives women a pass on their actions)I half think you posted this line as a form of sarcasm, because noway you said this over to yourself, typed it out, read it, and said - yeah this is black pilled and logical, totally not blue pilledLet's just ignore all data that show the inferiority of women's behavior and lack of ability to make rational decisions on their own, and pretend they're mentally equal to men and thus all their incorrect and evil decisions are their fault alone. Just swap out the word woman for child and look at how retarded what you just said is, because a woman and a child are almost equal in their inferiority.This has no scientific backing, it's truly no wonder, that a sex having fakecel like you, would defend a slutmaking degenerate non incel who pumps and dumps childlike foids, making inceldom and hypergamy worse for REAL incels.Also yeah, i'm totally bluepilled when I actively push against womens rights, get real, you never address any of these arguments in depth without massive amounts of logical fallacies and non arguments, because you can't. The next Hitler can't come soon enough.", "Mainländer said:What about the researches that show female happiness levels are diminishing?That's like saying that if you got a man and made him snort cocaine a couple of times, he would afterwards want to keep using it.What you want ins't always what makes you happy or even what's good for you, especially in the long run. A modern foid might have a blast with Chads while young, but I'd bet the old women from the past, looking at their huge families, were happier than old women are today with their cats or 2 betabuxx kids at best. And by old I mean 30-40+, not like 80+.Young woman want chad, older woman without sexual libido want big family numbers and social life, one doesn't disprove the other.Ofc single mother roasties with broken families with incel and whore kids aren't going to be happy.Do young woman were happier back then than the young woman of today? I doubt it.", "BrendioEEE said:Let's just ignore all data that show the inferiority of women's behavior and lack of ability to make rational decisions on their own, and pretend they're mentally equal to men and thus all their incorrect and evil decisions are their fault alone. Just swap out the word woman for child and look at how retarded what you just said is, because a woman and a child are almost equal in their inferiority.This has no scientific backing, it's truly no wonder, that a sex having fakecel like you, would defend a slutmaking degenerate non incel who pumps and dumps childlike foids, making inceldom and hypergamy worse for REAL incels.Also yeah, i'm totally bluepilled when I actively push against womens rights, get real, you never address any of these arguments in depth without massive amounts of logical fallacies and non arguments, because you can't. The next Hitler can't come soon enough.", "BlkPillPres said:", "BrendioEEE said:No you really can't, we already know why women are more likely to initiate divorce after they have been with more than 1 man, or many men,I live in pretty moderate muslim country, pretty sure my 50+ yo aunts was all virgins when they married, also the divorce court is not biased towards men here, maybe even the opposite, its a little baised towards women.Also theres no tinder / socmed when they were young.Even though I only met them a couple times a year, I noticed they bicker A LOT, theyre miserable as fuck and so is their husbands, if this is what successful marriage is. . . .JFLEven remember when I used to visit as a kid (10 years ago) my aunts used to yell at their husband, while the husband just takes it.Ill lose my mind if I have to live like that.even though all their husbands are moderately gl (7/10), one is also tall.one of them has successful, rich kids too. nothing seem to please them...even in pre tinder era, marriage is miserable for men and the foid.imagine now, and im nowhere near as gl as my uncles I dont wanna live my 'golden' years bickering with my wife near my kids.I have not a single example of happy marriage...so my pragmatic brain thinks its impossibleI think happiness is just a drug we got for following our biological imperativesand I doubt men and women are wired to be with one partner foreverand naturally women are supposed to go for chads and trash normiesso marriage would never work long term (>10yrs) virgin women or notwomen can only trulybe satisfied if they have chad and thats itif they dont age, thats what theyll do 4evernothing else can make em happy.maybe thats how nature designed em, they are put on earth ONLY to breed with the most aesthetic male availableso human species can keep evolving on a fast paceall my uncles are definitely fucking miserable. I kinda pity them even though they have a great life compared to me.And putting women back in their place is just a meme tbh it aint happeningSo what the solution? even if I can get virgin women to marry and the divorce laws isnt biased, its still gonna be a shyte marriage.", "ShyManlet said:women can only trulybe satisfied if they have chad and thats it", "there is a difference between instant gratification and happiness, also DeformAspergerCel said:tldr, no stats included said:you can disagree with stats all you'd like lol, your nonsensical sophistry cooked up inside your peanut brain based on infantile assumptions of power dynamics with nothing more than empty dismissals behind it (as per expected) means absolutely nothing", "you're probably right about a lot of women.but I think you give them too much credit when it comes to personal agency.women are groupthinkers and followers par excellence, far more than any men, this is why they should just be controlled and held fast from a young age, if you define what is good and great for them they will simply follow, and the groupthinking aspect will lead them to police each other into not being hypergamous whores, however unhappy deep down that might make them.it's the right thing to do for society's sake, otherwise you might as well just start running naked in the streets... well, you could say that many already are.", "DeformAspergerCel said:tldr, no stats included to expand...I used to think that womens' declining happiness was definitive proof for the return to patriarchy argument, but it recently dawned on me that women are probably more unhappy due to their sudden and relatively recent exposure to Chads and subsequent inability to lock the limited amount of Chads down.", "ShyManlet said:I live in pretty moderate muslim country, pretty sure my 50+ yo aunts was all virgins when they married, also the divorce court is not biased towards men here, maybe even the opposite, its a little baised towards women.Also theres no tinder / socmed when they were young.Even though I only met them a couple times a year, I noticed they bicker A LOT, theyre miserable as fuck and so is their husbands, if this is what successful marriage is. . . .JFLEven remember when I used to visit as a kid (10 years ago) my aunts used to yell at their husband, while the husband just takes it.Ill lose my mind if I have to live like that.Not all women/cultures are equal even if they're a virgin. This isn't news. I have a few friends, but lemme give two prominent examples. I have 1 friend who got with an Americanized Vietnamese spoiled rich girl, she's a little bitchy, and extremely needy, but what he had going for her was she was a confirmed 100% virgin, she'll never ever leave him. He's definitely not as happy as he could be hypothetically. Now compare this to another friend I know who got a virgin wife from Japan, she's very silent, respectful, basically does whatever he wants sexually, cooks daily, etc. They're both virgins yet one is still much more of a massive cunt than the other, virginity is only an end all be all for the woman staying in the relationship, and a lot of these studies and data were collected in western countries, obviously there's exceptions, but exceptions are exceptions for a reasonShyManlet said:I dont wanna live my 'golden' years bickering with my wife near my kids.I have not a single example of happy marriage...so my pragmatic brain thinks its impossibleOkay but that's selfish to your future family, other than that tho, also if I based everything about the world on where I live, I wouldn't even think virgin women are real, black men dominate every sexual market, and other things which clearly aren't the case everywhere in the world. I have seen plenty of examples of happy marriages, just not with people who got married to women around where I live, also marrying in your 50's is fucking retarded, virgin or not you're broken if you do so, male or female. Optimally you're supposed to get Married to a virgin and have 3 kids by 25, you can cope a bit and say 25-30 maybe, but if you can't do it voluntarily by 25 it's over, and if you can't do it by 30 voluntarily it's TRULY 100% over. ShyManlet said:I doubt men and women are wired to be with one partner foreverAnd yet there are many examples in the civilized western world of that happening and working properly. I'm sure more primitive civilizations may have evolved differently and may be more biologically inclined towards polygamy, but monogamy typically works just fine if done properly among at least the majority of Europeans/East Asians.ShyManlet said:women can only trulybe satisfied if they have chad and thats itif they dont age, thats what theyll do 4evernothing else can make em happy.Not according to the data, if that were true, as I said there wouldn't be so many examples of virgin women sticking around and reporting higher happiness levels when they stick with the first person they slept with forever, but yeah non virgin corrupted women will typically only be satisfied by Chad I can agree with that. ShyManlet said:And putting women back in their place is just a meme tbh it aint happeningIt's not a meme, it'll happen, don't worry, it make take a little longer than we'd like, but that's just the natural evolution of culture, and has been for over a thousand years. ShyManlet said:So what the solution? even if I can get virgin women to marry and the divorce laws isnt biased, its still gonna be a shyte marriage.Maybe don't marry a virgin woman who is in her 50's and you'll be fine?", "Honeypot said:Maybe don't marry a virgin woman who is in her 50's and you'll be fine?I wasnt talking about marrying women on their 50s, I meant 3 of my aunts are 50+ yo now, but they were already married at 20 somethingtheyre all miserable as shit now, picking a fight with their husband over stupid shit,and arent embarassed to do that in front of family & friends.they arent americanized / spoiled growing upBrendioEEE said:Now compare this to another friend I know who got a virgin wife from Japan, she's very silent, respectful, basically does whatever he wants sexually, cooks daily, etc.Find it hard to believe that Japanese or any asian women is obedient tbh, unless their husband is rich / chadAnd ones that live in poor countries, with no job / education opportunityand know theyd be in the gutter without their husband^THIS is the only women, youll have a good marriage withbe rich / chad / marry poor desolate women in a country that doesnt really care about woman's rightsBasically the only reason women were subservient back then was cause they have no choiceeither shes the subservient one or you are, at least this is the case from what Ive seenno other advice would work, marry 'decent', young, unspoiled, virgin dont worksex life is crap, probably got 1 starfish sex a week, with her being visibly uninterested by itthen itll dry up completely on your 40s,then deal with her nagging all day about how hard it is to cook and take care of the houseand how unappreciated she feelswihle you have to bust your ass working 9-5 to feed her and the kidsand like most husbands, your kids and wife prolly want nothing to do with you until they needed moneyI aint gonna fall for the grass is greener scam that desperate, lonely people fell intomaybe the grass aint greenerbesides noodles are ugly asf, its not even worth the trouble marrying them jflA lot of white men married noodlewhores thinking theyd be more subservient, loving, appreciative JFLthat typically dont last longnoodles are just better at hiding their true colors, also theyre greedy and calculative afBrendioEEE said:It's not a meme, it'll happen, don't worry, it make take a little longer than we'd like, but that's just the natural evolution of culture, and has been for over a thousand years.brah Ill be old asf or dead by the time this happen", "BlkPillPres said:Because happiness and fulfillment are very subjective things, so how did they gauge ones happiness and fulfillment, that's an extremely relevant question to ascertain if there is bias presentDo you seriously think it's just a coincidence that women belonging to the last remaining patriarchal subculture in the United States are less likely to suffer from depression or chronic stress than mainstream American women? It almost seems as if women, much like children, benefit in the long run from being controlled by their fathers and husbands.Compared with women in the general population, Amish women rated their physical health approximately at the same level, but reported less stress, fewer symptoms of depression, and had higher aggregate scores for mental health. Amish women reported low levels of intimate partner violence, high levels of social support, and they perceived low levels of unfair treatment owing to gender compared with the general population. to expand...ShyManlet said:women can only trulybe satisfied if they have chad and thats itnothing else can make em happy.Actually, you're wrong: are no limits to female hypergamy. Once a woman gets Chad to marry her, it's only a matter of time before she becomes unhappy and starts looking for an even better-looking man. Even top-tier men are at risk of being cheated upon or divorce raped. For a woman who feels entitled to Gigachad, chads become just as undesirable as incels. Women simply want the most attractive men they can get. If the most attractive man a woman can get is her looksmatch, she will settle for him. Many married women freely admit that they have a fear of better options. If monogamy was enforced, women would have improved peace of mind knowing that there are no better options out there for them.", "ShyManlet said:I wasnt talking about marrying women on their 50s, I meant 3 of my aunts are 50+ yo now, but they were already married at 20 somethingand theyre all miserable as shit now, picking a fight with their husband over stupid shit,and arent embarassed to do that in front of family & friends.and they arent americanized / spoiled growing upOkay well still as I said, not all virgins/cultures are equal. Most of these studies/data are done in western countries, some random anecdotal evidence from a Muslim country of an unverified virgin isn't really a way to disprove this stuff.ShyManlet said:Find it hard to believe that Japanese or any asian women is obedient tbh, unless their husband is rich / chadI don't know who is spreading the myth that Japanese women are somehow more shallow/require you to be Chad, from my research the only Asian women that seem to be pretty problematic in this realm are non virgins, and Chinese women, but in regards to Chinese women specifically, I feel like i'd need to do a bit more research on that front, but I have seen many examples of this and this most definitely not the case, the guy I know in my example is not even close to a Chad, and he most definitely is not rich. Pretty average on all counts.However I will say this, he is white, and everyone I know who is HAPPILY married to an Asian woman is white, so there might be some JBW halo/bias on that front that makes their life much easier in that department at least in regards to getting a good asian woman. ShyManlet said:And ones that live in poor countries, with no job / education opportunityand know theyd be in the gutter without their husband^THIS is the only women, youll have a good marriage withbe rich / chad / marry poor desolate women in a country that doesnt really care about woman's rightsThis can work, but this can also backfire if they're a not virgin, you see the virgin thing really is the be all end all. Lets say you're an average white guy, and you marry a poor girl from a slum in SEA or something, but she's not a virgin, you take her back to your country, and she see's tons of white guys all around her, because she's already been corrupted, the liklihood of her cheating on your is much much higher than if she wasn't a virgin, even if said virgin was from an average background and was a higher class asian such as a Japanese woman. ShyManlet said:no other advice would work, marry 'decent', young, unspoiled, virgin dont workAccording to the data it doesShyManlet said:sex life is crap, probably got 1 starfish sex a week, with her being visibly uninterested by itAccording to the data it's good, and while this specific anecdote i'm about to mention is...well...anecdotal, every man I know who has Married a virgin reports an active, DAILY, sex life with her, unless of course one of them is sick or something of that nature.ShyManlet said:then itll dry up completely on your 40s,This doesn't really seem to be the case either, we can take a look at older generations who are in very long term relations 20-30+ year relationships, yunno boomer types in the west who got married to their highschool sweetheart when they were both virgins and just out of highschool, and a lot of them have reported pretty active sex lives aswell, even up into their 40's, 50's, 60's. ShyManlet said:besides noodles are ugly asf, its not even worth the trouble marrying them jflMaybe if you go after a SEA Subhuman, a white guy going after his looksmatch in Japan typically will produce much better results. ShyManlet said:A lot of white men married noodlewhores thinking theyd be more subservient, loving, appreciative JFLthat typically dont last longnoodles are just better at hiding their true colors, also theyre greedy and calculative afA lot of white men married, non virgin, south east asian, subhuman whores, that's not really an argument lolShyManlet said:brah Ill be old asf or dead by the time this happenThe entire world hasn't been engulfed in marxism and degeneracy yet, unless you're a 1/10 truecel mentalcel, there's still sexual markets out there even for curries if you spend the time and resources into locationmaxxing and finding a good sexual market.", "BlkPillPres said:This is another cope that needs to be ended, one that is widely held by traditionalistsToday women get to ride the cock carousel and still have a beta provider waiting for them at the end of it all, rather than having to immediately settle for and pair up with said beta provider in their early years. You have to be coping to believe the red pilled meme of women just want to have babies and be in committed relationships deep down, its society poisoning them Nope, women love fucking around, yes they want to have babies too, but now they can fuck around and have babies, and society foots the bill with taxes, women have barely any consequences to their actions today. You are coping if you think women of the past are happier than women today are, when with the swipe of a finger they can get gangbanged by chads, and have a beta pay all of their bills and support their lifestyle, all with barely any effortYou grab the average woman from the patriarchal past and place her in the present, and give her a year of living like a modern woman, and when presented with the option of going back, SHE WILL REFUSE, and it won't be because she'll miss the technological advancementsWOMEN OBVIOUSLY WEREN'T HAPPIER WITH RESTRICTIONS ON THEIR CHOICES, SEXUAL HABITS, WEALTH ACCUMULATION, ETC.Believing otherwise is just a cope men give themselves so they can think there is still hope of returning to the good times:JFL, they aren't unhappy, the only thing women have deep down is more room in their cunt for chad cockAny man who doesn't realize that women today are happier than they have ever been is LYING TO THEMSELVESThey will site articles about women who had their eggs frozen to pursue their careers and now they can't have children because something went wrong, and they'll cope JFL at these copesNo you fucking idiot, they wanted both, they wanted to have their cake and eat it too, that failure in their life doesn't mean they didn't want to be a whore and fuck Chads endlessly, that failure doesn't mean they didn't enjoy the past successes (successes in their book)Coping idiots like to phrase scenarios like this as women realizing that they missed out on what they really wanted, when in actuality, it was just a woman chasing after the things she wanted in her best years, and being naive thinking that she still had time to pursue her SECONDARY GOALS.So to all the traditionalist copers, please stop it, for your own good, you know full well women are happier today, women regretting the end result of their whorish choices doesn't take away from the fact that they THOROUGHLY ENJOYED THOSE CHOICES, and if you asked any of them if they could do it over again, would they make the same choices, THEY WOULD ANSWER YES, or probably just get their beta provider earlier and cheat on him with Chad, so they can BOTH get to fuck chad and reproduceI like your posts", "BrendioEEE said:The entire world hasn't been engulfed in marxism and degeneracy yet, unless you're a 1/10 truecel mentalcel, there's still sexual markets out there even for curries if you spend the time and resources into locationmaxxing and finding a good sexual market.True..true..BrendioEEE said:every man I know who has Married a virgin reports an active, DAILY, sex life with her, unless of course one of them is sick or something of that nature. but this I find hard to believe...", "randomguy1235 said:I used to think that womens' declining happiness was definitive proof for the return to patriarchy argument, but it recently dawned on me that women are probably more unhappy due to their sudden and relatively recent exposure to Chads and subsequent inability to lock the limited amount of Chads down.Perhaps. What I will say is that ultimately it does not matter what the facts say or doesn't say when it comes to shaping society, facts only matter to the extent that they can either prove or disprove certain assertions made about reality. To 95% of modern foids patriarchy sounds like living hell which is all that matters. Perception is reality to almost everyone. The key to shaping society is to gain almost if not exclusive access to the media apparatus, it is not by informing emotionally driven femoids that they were actually better off during patriarchy. The nazis, communists and Jews all understood this. I am personally completely emotionally divorced from this argument and I don't care about women's happiness one way or the other, but if you make a claim that contradicts everything the researchers say on this topic, as OP did, you're obviously gonna get called out on it. It's nothing to do with coping", "Agreed" ]
JFLProstitute noodle bitch gets tired of caring for her kids and seals them in apartment to die
[ " Shimomura, a 23-year-old Japanese single mother in Osaka, sealed the door of her apartment shut, abandoning 3-year-old daughter Sakurako Hagi and 1-year-old son Kaede Hagi inside. Neighbors heard the children crying over many weeks until it suddenly subsided, but did not think anything more of this than simply children in a bad childhood phase. Since Shimomura did not come to work for several days, a colleague went to her place and noticed a strange smell beyond the door. When the police entered the apartment, they found the two children dead.Shimamura was arrested on 30 July 2010. She was reported to have wanted free time for herself and was quoted as saying that she had grown tired of feeding and bathing her two children on her own.The bitch in question:“I thought about a week later they might be dead,” she was quoted as telling the investigators. “I didn’t feel like I should return home to save them,” she added.She had moved to the apartment in January, when she began working at a sex parlor. The apartment at which she lived with her children is used as a dormitory by the sex parlor, they said.Eventually she came back home, and saw the children, ages 3 and 1, dead. She then left the house without telling anyone, as she had a date. She had sex the same night. Foids are not even human.", "Holy crap, it really was a mistake to give them rights. Fucking whores, i hope the lot of them gets fucking raped", "Putrid whore", "What are the odds of her getting out within the next 10 years?", "What is it about noodlewhores and their complete lack of empathy? Heck, most rekt videos from asia in general most people don't even give a shit about the toddler who was been torn to shreds by a faulty gas pipe that destroyed half the country.", "What a horrible fate for those two little kids. Absolutely soulless action.", "CrookedOzCel said:Putrid whore", "Wtf is wrong with those bitches?", "I can't stomach reading these stories of infant abuse by foids.Like Mein Fuhrer Adolf HitlER, I have compassion for animals and the vulnerable infants. Fuck a feminist cunt though. I would laugh if a Nazi dismembered a feminist cunt while alive, and without morphine or pain numbERs.", "perfect example of motherly love", "This is why you should scoff and laugh when foids claim they there are the empathetic gender. Are women even capable of loving their children? I mean that in the abstract ideal of the emotion of love. Can they care beyond the realm of the duty?", "Only noodlewhores are capable putting that off.", "old news but rly hope shes still in jail", "And somehow Alabama will be blamed this.", "frickin_cel said:Holy crap, it really was a mistake to give them rights. Fucking whores, i hope the lot of them gets fucking rapedshe would prob enjoy it tbh", "Sans said:What are the odds of her getting out within the next 10 years?Pretty good unfortunately", "soulartemis said: bitch in question: 118084Foids are not even human.Holy shit this is brutal", "I thought Oriental Women were better than this.At least The Japanese during World War II had pride.I respect them for that.This country would be better off if Japan had won The War.They showed World War II tonight on 60 minutes.I was amazed by how much honor The Japanese Men had.These people truly respected their country.They showed The War memorials in Japan.They showed on 60 minutes, after a Japanese soldier was killed, when they went though his wallet, he had pictures of his family. Now they won't see their son / brother coming home.Personally, I don't think I could kill a Japanese, or even a Nazi.", "Pure fucking evil. Not a single ounce of humanity, what a fucking pathetic excuse to kill your own children. “Tee hee I want more time with chad so I kill my own children Tee hee”", "Ah yes, the unconditional bond between mother and child", "Glast said:What is it about noodlewhores and their complete lack of empathy?They hate their children for not being white.FrustratedWhiteMale said:I thought Oriental Women were better than this.At least The Japanese during World War II had pride.I respect them for that.This country would be better off if Japan had won The War.They showed World War II tonight on 60 minutes.I was amazed by how much honor The Japanese Men had.These people truly respected their country.They showed The War memorials in Japan.They showed on 60 minutes, after a Japanese soldier was killed, when they went though his wallet, he had pictures of his family. Now they won't see their son / brother coming home.Personally, I don't think I could kill a Japanese, or even a Nazi.The wrong side won the war. The world would be better off if Hitler had won.", "Women love murdering their own children, if they could, they would make it completely legal.", "Stop noodle wroship!!", "FrustratedWhiteMale said:I thought Oriental Women were better than this.At least The Japanese during World War II had pride.I respect them for that.This country would be better off if Japan had won The War.They showed World War II tonight on 60 minutes.I was amazed by how much honor The Japanese Men had.These people truly respected their country.They showed The War memorials in Japan.They showed on 60 minutes, after a Japanese soldier was killed, when they went though his wallet, he had pictures of his family. Now they won't see their son / brother coming home.Personally, I don't think I could kill a Japanese, or even a Nazi.JFL at buying Propaganda. Yes every soldier fighting for Germany in world war 2 was a Nazi, there are no exceptions. EVERY soldier was a Nazi, including the ones that joined before Hitler’s rise to power", "An appropriate punishment would be to force her to service incels until she gets old and ugly.", "Miss me yet?", "She didn't do this. She was no longer in control of her body.She was demonically possessed (one doesn't have to be spazzing out or talking demonically to be under control of one).Demon's are attracted to death, murder, sex, drugs, the fast life and self-centeredness.No human is able to do this. Humans have empathy, compassion, and care for others... specially their own children.Many of you guys think i'm joking, but people that are aware there is more beyond the physical world know exactly what i'm talking about.", "Bone chilling. Especially the last bit.", "don't forget that women are our moral betters and future shepherds of the human race", "FrustratedWhiteMale said:I thought Oriental Women were better than this.At least The Japanese during World War II had pride.I respect them for that.This country would be better off if Japan had won The War.They showed World War II tonight on 60 minutes.I was amazed by how much honor The Japanese Men had.These people truly respected their country.They showed The War memorials in Japan.They showed on 60 minutes, after a Japanese soldier was killed, when they went though his wallet, he had pictures of his family. Now they won't see their son / brother coming home.Personally, I don't think I could kill a Japanese, or even a Nazi.Google Rape of Nanking and stop worshiping eusocial, soulless gooks.", "I'm so sick of taking care of my kids now I don't have time to get my ass filled with chad's cumFoid are more sensible than man", "Disgusting. These creatures don’t deserve any rights.", "hypergamy knows no bounds , most woman want fun and games till 40 , ofc someone wont settle at the mere age of 23", "women are child killers", "Whores should be sterilized so that we don't have to give them any more money for their bastard children they use to panhandle us, they are not my burden for responsibility, and that foids who choose to whore themselves out for money instead of finding security in a man should not have the right to reproduce and bring more children to single mothers for them to suffer.", "Deleted member 1783 said:Foids are not even human.Lmao water is wet", "Deleted member 1783 said:Foids are not even human.", "FrameCell said:She didn't do this. She was no longer in control of her body.She was demonically possessed (one doesn't have to be spazzing out or talking demonically to be under control of one).Demon's are attracted to death, murder, sex, drugs, the fast life and self-centeredness.No human is able to do this. Humans have empathy, compassion, and care for others... specially their own children.Many of you guys think i'm joking, but people that are aware there is more beyond the physical world know exactly what i'm talking about.simp schizo copefoids are like this when unchecked - that's why you're posting here.", "Deleted member 1783 said: bitch in question: 118084Foids are not even human.Women are a different level of disgusting because not only do they want to kill, but they don't understand mercy or accountability, they don't take responsibilityIf a father does this he'll shoot the children in the head to kill them quickly, but a woman will often drown their children, use a random poison that isn't even quick, or leave their children to starve to death or dehydrate to death in a carThey don't just kill their children, they kill them slowlyFrameCell said:She didn't do this. She was no longer in control of her body.She was demonically possessed (one doesn't have to be spazzing out or talking demonically to be under control of one).Demon's are attracted to death, murder, sex, drugs, the fast life and self-centeredness.No human is able to do this. Humans have empathy, compassion, and care for others... specially their own children.Many of you guys think i'm joking, but people that are aware there is more beyond the physical world know exactly what i'm talking about.Instantly added to my ignore list lol", "Just date Japanese girls bro! BlkPillPres said:Women are a different level of disgusting because not only do they want to kill, but they don't understand mercy or accountability, they don't take responsibilityIf a father does this he'll shoot the children in the head to kill them quickly, but a woman will often drown their children, use a random poison that isn't even quick, or leave their children to starve to death or dehydrate to death in a carThey don't just kill their children, they kill them slowlyThat's the scary thing about women, they haven't developed a sense of empathy even in adulthood. (To the point where they're basically sociopaths) Just like how a young child doesn't understand that hurting or killing a small animal is wrong, foids are incapable of seeing past what they're currently feeling. In this moment, she had grown tired of feeding and bathing so much like a child, she just left without thinking about the result of her actions. This is also why women are so eager to leave their boyfriend once chad comes along, just like a child they are quick to forget about their old toy once they see a brand new one. That is what separates us from them, the fact that they are basically toddlers mentally." ]
BlackpillAll Good Things Women Are Known For Were Ironically Roles Enforced By Men
[ "Do women see the irony of this, do feminists see the irony of this, women and feminists alike always go around touting these stereotypical labels (loving mothers, nurturers, etc) whilst at the same time protesting against the patriarchy that forced them into these roles, that created the stereotypes of women being kind, loving, nurturing, etc. Now in these times when they are no longer forced into those roles, we can see them for the degenerate, useless fucking holes that they always wereThink of all the good things women are culturally/stereotypically known for:Motherhood - Forced into this role by men, relegated to the household, could not workPacifist - Forced into this role by men, not allowed to fight in wars, etcChild loving - Abortions were illegal and being a mother was really all a woman could doKind - Kindness was a means to an end for women in those times, they had no power or resources, you had no choice but to be kind to get places in lifeBeautiful - A woman's toolset was her looks since they could not work or own property, so staying in shape and beautifying themselves was just part of survivalCommitted/Faithful - Being caught cheating in those times means your husband would leave you, you'd be without resources and you'd be socially ostracized on top of it, known as a promiscuous whore, and that would affect all aspects of your lifeEtcTHE ONLY THINGS THAT ARE GOOD ABOUT WOMEN, ARE THE THINGS THAT MEN FORCE THEM TO DONow look at those factors in modern times:Motherhood - Women save it for way later in life, don't even really want it, its more like a status symbol than a life calling, single motherhood is at record high and statistically children of single mothers are more likely to become criminals, commit suicide, use drugs, etc. Women were only good at motherhood when men were present guiding them and forcing them to do it a certain wayPacifist - Women have always been the most violent of the sexes, it is just natures cruel joke that they are also the weakest so they can't inflict as much harm, this is why women's violence is more social, and done in more underhanded ways than direct. If a woman doesn't like you she may not challenge you to a fight, but she may make a false rape/sexual assault claim.If we look at stats, women INITIATE more acts of domestic violence than menIn Brief: Domestic violence: Not always one sided - Harvard HealthA survey found that in certain situations of domestic disputes, women were more likely than men to have hit, pushed, or thrown something at their partner.www.health.harvard.eduWhen the violence was one-sided, both women and men said that women were the perpetrators about 70% of the time. Men were more likely to be injured in reciprocally violent relationships (25%) than were women when the violence was one-sided (20%).At the end of a fight, if you weren't present, all you see are the injuries and bruises, and that's why it seems like men are abusing women more than women abuse men, natures cruel joke against women, is making them emotional psychopaths with no self control, but also too weak to inflict much harm without resorting to extreme measures.Child loving - Do we even need to touch this one, women don't and never have loved children, they loved the security as an asset to a household that being a child bearer and rearer provided for them, and now that they no longer need that security, children are disposable, which is why women are aborting children left and right.Also statistically, children are abused and killed more by women than by men, especially in cases of parents killing childrenKind - Women are some of the most uncaring, sadistic, people I know, the kindest people I know are all men, women are vindictive, unreasonable, illogical, will try to put someone down and make fun of them at the slightest opportunity, and they are always speaking ill of others behind their backs, especially other womenOne of my funniest memories at a work place, were the interactions I observed between female workers, there were 3 in particular, for simplification, lets call them Hole A, Hole B and Hole CHole A & Hole B are together - Speak ill of Hole CHole A & Hole C are together - Speak ill of Hole BHole B & Hole C are together - Speak ill of Hole AHole A & Hole B & Hole C together - Speak ill of everyone else, laugh together and pretend to be the best of friendsWomen are the most disgusting fucking individuals on the planet, this is why there is no such thing as a female friend, even for females, most of these so called friends speak ill of eachother on a regular basis and work behind the scenes to negatively impact eachothers lives. Men don't do this shit, seriously what the fuck is wrong with womenBeautiful - JFL these days they don't even need to stay in shape to land themselves a Chad much less a beta provider, even landwhales demand a 6ft Chad, beauty is no longer a priority since they can work and gain resources and property for themselves, and to top it of the dating market is so skewed they can date well above their own leagueCommitted/Faithful - Women were always the ones who wanted to cheat most, there were just restrictions on them, now without those restrictions, female infidelity is through the roof, even rates of paternity fraud have gone up, getting married and having children in these times is a jokeEtcTHE ONLY THINGS THAT ARE GOOD ABOUT WOMEN, ARE THE THINGS THAT MEN FORCE THEM TO DO", "Foids are only as good as men force them to be.Today's cucked society allows women to be as degenerate as they like and still keep the blue-pilled sterotypes of being kinder and gentler than men. This is because blue-pilled men project on to women what they want them to be (loving, caring, compassionate) but in reality woman are incapable of empathy and it is men who really posses these empathetic qualities.", "LittleDarkAge said:Foids are only as good as men force them to be", "I'm glad this was bumped because it's very true.", "Chris_Jones said:revives me", "OP you have intergalactic level IQ", "BlkPillPres said:Do women see the irony of this, do feminists see the irony of this, women and feminists alike always go around touting these stereotypical labels (loving mothers, nurturers, etc) whilst at the same time protesting against the patriarchy that forced them into these roles, that created the stereotypes of women being kind, loving, nurturing, etc. Now in these times when they are no longer forced into those roles, we can see them for the degenerate, useless fucking holes that they always wereThink of all the good things women are culturally/stereotypically known for:Motherhood - Forced into this role by men, relegated to the household, could not workPacifist - Forced into this role by men, not allowed to fight in wars, etcChild loving - Abortions were illegal and being a mother was really all a woman could doKind - Kindness was a means to an end for women in those times, they had no power or resources, you had no choice but to be kind to get places in lifeBeautiful - A woman's toolset was her looks since they could not work or own property, so staying in shape and beautifying themselves was just part of survivalCommitted/Faithful - Being caught cheating in those times means your husband would leave you, you'd be without resources and you'd be socially ostracized on top of it, known as a promiscuous whore, and that would affect all aspects of your lifeEtcTHE ONLY THINGS THAT ARE GOOD ABOUT WOMEN, ARE THE THINGS THAT MEN FORCE THEM TO DONow look at those factors in modern times:Motherhood - Women save it for way later in life, don't even really want it, its more like a status symbol than a life calling, single motherhood is at record high and statistically children of single mothers are more likely to become criminals, commit suicide, use drugs, etc. Women were only good at motherhood when men were present guiding them and forcing them to do it a certain wayPacifist - Women have always been the most violent of the sexes, it is just natures cruel joke that they are also the weakest so they can't inflict as much harm, this is why women's violence is more social, and done in more underhanded ways than direct. If a woman doesn't like you she may not challenge you to a fight, but she may make a false rape/sexual assault claim.If we look at stats, women INITIATE more acts of domestic violence than menIn Brief: Domestic violence: Not always one sided - Harvard HealthA survey found that in certain situations of domestic disputes, women were more likely than men to have hit, pushed, or thrown something at their partner.www.health.harvard.eduAt the end of a fight, if you weren't present, all you see are the injuries and bruises, and that's why it seems like men are abusing women more than women abuse men, natures cruel joke against women, is making them emotional psychopaths with no self control, but also too weak to inflict much harm without resorting to extreme measures.Child loving - Do we even need to touch this one, women don't and never have loved children, they loved the security as an asset to a household that being a child bearer and rearer provided for them, and now that they no longer need that security, children are disposable, which is why women are aborting children left and right.Also statistically, children are abused and killed more by women than by men, especially in cases of parents killing childrenKind - Women are some of the most uncaring, sadistic, people I know, the kindest people I know are all men, women are vindictive, unreasonable, illogical, will try to put someone down and make fun of them at the slightest opportunity, and they are always speaking ill of others behind their backs, especially other womenOne of my funniest memories at a work place, were the interactions I observed between female workers, there were 3 in particular, for simplification, lets call them Hole A, Hole B and Hole CHole A & Hole B are together - Speak ill of Hole CHole A & Hole C are together - Speak ill of Hole BHole B & Hole C are together - Speak ill of Hole AHole A & Hole B & Hole C together - Speak ill of everyone else, laugh together and pretend to be the best of friendsWomen are the most disgusting fucking individuals on the planet, this is why there is no such thing as a female friend, even for females, most of these so called friends speak ill of eachother on a regular basis and work behind the scenes to negatively impact eachothers lives. Men don't do this shit, seriously what the fuck is wrong with womenBeautiful - JFL these days they don't even need to stay in shape to land themselves a Chad much less a beta provider, even landwhales demand a 6ft Chad, beauty is no longer a priority since they can work and gain resources and property for themselves, and to top it of the dating market is so skewed they can date well above their own leagueCommitted/Faithful - Women were always the ones who wanted to cheat most, there were just restrictions on them, now without those restrictions, female infidelity is through the roof, even rates of paternity fraud have gone up, getting married and having children in these times is a jokeEtcTHE ONLY THINGS THAT ARE GOOD ABOUT WOMEN, ARE THE THINGS THAT MEN FORCE THEM TO DODisturbingly High IQ.", "BlkPillPres said:THE ONLY THINGS THAT ARE GOOD ABOUT WOMEN, ARE THE THINGS THAT MEN FORCE THEM TO DOHigh IQ , deserve to be pinned.", "Another irony-fuel is that feminism can’t exist without male support. Men created feminism, men brainwashed feminist women and then supported them.", "FinnCel said:OP you have intergalactic level IQ", "Forced by nature you meanChris_Jones said:joker is a genius.Once in Russia, there was a big famine, one the survivors said that the 'good' ones were the first to die, since they refused to rob, to kill, to eat other humans, etc.", "Men was designed to advance the species, femoid designed to bear and raise future men thats it. Nature never intended for them to achieve anything.Its a specialized role. Because its much more effective to have one gender thats specialized for chilbearing (pretty damn dangerous task in the past), and one other gender designed to accomplish shit..rather than have only one gender that isnt really effective at either task. Edit : I didnt really read your post before I reply", "BlkPillPres said:Committed/Faithful - Being caught cheating in those times means your husband would leave you, you'd be without resources and you'd be socially ostracized on top of it, known as a promiscuous whore, and that would affect all aspects of your lifeBack when cheating had consequences as it should. Nowadays girls can cheat on their man i.e. break his heart and betray him in the worst way possible and there are absolutely nothing he can do about it he is just supposed to man up and get over it", "BlkPillPres said:Kind - Women are some of the most uncaring, sadistic, people I know, the kindest people I know are all men, women are vindictive, unreasonable, illogical, will try to put someone down and make fun of them at the slightest opportunity, and they are always speaking ill of others behind their backs, especially other womenOne of my funniest memories at a work place, were the interactions I observed between female workers, there were 3 in particular, for simplification, lets call them Hole A, Hole B and Hole CHole A & Hole B are together - Speak ill of Hole CHole A & Hole C are together - Speak ill of Hole BHole B & Hole C are together - Speak ill of Hole AHole A & Hole B & Hole C together - Speak ill of everyone else, laugh together and pretend to be the best of friendsWomen are the most disgusting fucking individuals on the planet, this is why there is no such thing as a female friend, even for females, most of these so called friends speak ill of eachother on a regular basis and work behind the scenes to negatively impact eachothers lives. Men don't do this shit, seriously what the fuck is wrong with womenI see this kind of behavior in foids everywhere it's almost comical. Lying is second nature to women, they do it so frequently and so often that there is really no reason to believe a foid is ever telling the truth. It's why I will always be dismissive of rape or sexual assault allegations, a woman will lose no sleep about sending a man to jail for 30 years over a lie.", "RegisterUserName said:I'm glad this was bumped because it's very true.", "Everything women do, machines will do better.", "Holes were meant to be controlled", "quinn24 said:RegisterUserName said:I'm glad this was bumped because it's very true.", "Alfen said:Disturbingly High IQ.", "FinnCel said:OP you have intergalactic level IQ", "[Blackpill] [Femoid Triggering Edition]", "Must-read content ngl@SergeantIncel", "JFL", "OwlGod said:Must-read content ngl" ]
BlackpillHuman Progress Is Significantly Impeded By Women Having A Say In Society
[ "WOMEN CANNOT HAVE A SAY IN SOCIETY FOR THE SPECIES TO PROGRESS, BECAUSE ANY ADVANCEMENT BY DEFAULT IS A THREAT TO THEIR POWER STRUCTURE, BECAUSE NATURE ITSELF IS AGAINST WOMEN HAVING ANY POWER, ANY ADVANCEMENT CAN UPSET THIS UNNATURAL BALANCE (IMBALANACE), BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T EXIST TO BEGIN WITHLets focus on the topic of two very important technological advancements, that if utilized, can benefit the humans in the realm of work and leisureArtificial Intelligence (paired up with robotics)Human CloningThese are both technologies that will be heavily protested against by women, due to the threat they hold to the monopoly women have over sexual and reproductive resourcesIf you can clone any woman you want and maintain ownership of said clone, then women become obsoleteIf you can have a realistic sex android with an AI that knows and will obey you, then women become obsoleteThere are already women protesting against sex robot technology and its in its infancy stages, isn't even worth looking at right now, and they are already this worried, its like a woman looking at a 1 year old girl and feeling threatened that she would seduce her husbandHowever outside of sex, these technologies would significantly benefit humanity as a whole, in various aspects of life, but women won't let that happen, and will get in the way of it, and slow down legal processes, and create pointless debating of the issue, because it is in their nature to do this shitLeftism itself is female minded, it functions like the female brain, this is why all these weird victimhood, give me special priviledges movements are on the left, its reflective of the female mind, because it revolves around it, and these are the groups always protesting about exploitationWomen are going to protest that an AI robot is being sexually exploited despite it not being aliveWomen are going to protest that a clone is being sexually exploited despite it wanting to be with youPeople are always wondering why advanced species (aliens) don't visit our planet and share their knowledge with us, I have an idea whyITS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT EQUIPPED TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE KNOWLEDGE ANYWAYSThese beings can observe our planet, our media, our culture, etc, and what can they see, monkeys bickering over subjective BS instead of making objective arguments and rationalizing what can and can't be doneAny knowledge that an advanced species graces us with, will be impeded by women and femininity itself (female mindedness)We can't make use of AI and robotics, because women will have the species wasting time contemplating whether were exploiting non-existent beingsWe can't make use of cloning technology (which can be used for creating compatible organs among many things) because women will have the species wasting time contemplating whether were exploiting beings that literally should not exist, and in most cases will be copies of us, if I use my cells, to create a female copy of myself, who the fuck can argue that I can't have sex with it, feminists that's whoIf a substance was created that boosted a persons libido and made them go from being infertile to fertile, women would not celebrate that advancement in technology, they would instead focus on the possibility that men might use it to trick women into being attracted to them by spiking their drinks with it, and it will create a new kind of rape, called voluntary rape, because he definitely isn't a Chad so its rape, I feel trickedWOMEN CANNOT HAVE A SAY IN SOCIETY FOR THE SPECIES TO PROGRESS, BECAUSE ANY ADVANCEMENT BY DEFAULT IS A THREAT TO THEIR POWER STRUCTURE, BECAUSE NATURE ITSELF IS AGAINST WOMEN HAVING ANY POWER, ANY ADVANCEMENT CAN UPSET THIS UNNATURAL BALANCE (IMBALANCE), BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T EXIST TO BEGIN WITH", "Women’s happiness depends on male sadness while men’s happiness can exist independently of women’s feelings. Women will become obsolete because we don’t really need them once we become advanced enough. At least that’s kind of what got from this. Correct me if I’m wrong.", "Ticcel said:Women’s happiness depends on male sadness while men’s happiness can exist independently of women’s feelings. Women will become obsolete because we don’t really need them once we become advanced enough. At least that’s kind of what got from this. Correct me if I’m wrong.True, that is the correct interpretation, you also added something in that I didn't (though it is inferred), that women's happiness depends on male sadness, whilst men can be happy independent from women, and that's because women are the objects that are acted upon, and men are the subjects who act, the actor can exist and function without objects, but an objects only purpose is to be acted upon, it is all that it can doMen don't need women, but women need men", "BlkPillPres said:WOMEN CANNOT HAVE A SAY IN SOCIETY FOR THE SPECIES TO PROGRESS, BECAUSE ANY ADVANCEMENT BY DEFAULT IS A THREAT TO THEIR POWER STRUCTURE, BECAUSE NATURE ITSELF IS AGAINST WOMEN HAVING ANY POWER, ANY ADVANCEMENT CAN UPSET THIS UNNATURAL BALANCE, BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T EXIST TO BEGIN WITHLets focus on the topic of two very important technological advancements, that if utilized, can benefit the humans in the realm of work and leisureArtificial Intelligence (paired up with robotics)Human CloningThese are both technologies that will be heavily protested against by women, due to the threat they hold to the monopoly women have over sexual and reproductive resourcesIf you can clone any woman you want and maintain ownership of said clone, then women become obsoleteIf you can have a realistic sex android with an AI that knows and will obey you, then women become obsoleteThere are already women protesting against sex robot technology and its in its infancy stages, isn't even worth looking at right now, and they are already this worried, its like a woman looking at a 1 year old girl and feeling threatened that she would seduce her husbandHowever outside of sex, these technologies would significantly benefit humanity as a whole, in various aspects of life, but women won't let that happen, and will get in the way of it, and slow down process, and creating pointless debating of the issue, because it is in their nature to do this shitLeftism itself is female minded, it functions like the female brain, this is why all these weird victimhood, give me special priviledges movements are on the left, its reflective of the female mind, because it revolves around it, and these are the groups always protesting about exploitationWomen are going to protest that an AI robot is being sexually exploited despite it not being aliveWomen are going to protest that a clone is being sexually exploited despite it wanting to be with youPeople are always wondering why advanced species (aliens) don't visit our planet and share their knowledge with us, I have an idea whyITS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT EQUIPPED TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE KNOWLEDGE ANYWAYSThese beings can observe our planet, our media, our culture, etc, and what can they see, monkeys bickering over subjective BS instead of making objective arguments and rationalizing what can and can't be doneAny knowledge that an advanced species graces us with, will be impeded by women and femininity itself (female mindedness)We can't make use of AI and robotics, because women will have the species wasting time contemplating whether were exploiting non-existent beingsWe can't make use of cloning technology (which can be used for creating compatible organs among many things) because women will have the species wasting time contemplating whether were exploiting beings that literally should not exist, and in most cases will be copies of us, if I use my cells, to create a female copy of myself, who the fuck can argue that I can't have sex with it, feminists that's whoIf a substance was created that boosted a persons libido and made them go from being infertile to fertile, women would not celebrate that advancement in technology, they would instead focus on the possibility that men might use it to trick women into being attracted to them by spiking their drinks with it, and it will create a new kind of rape, called voluntary rape, because he definitely isn't a Chad so its rape, I feel trickedWOMEN CANNOT HAVE A SAY IN SOCIETY FOR THE SPECIES TO PROGRESS, BECAUSE ANY ADVANCEMENT BY DEFAULT IS A THREAT TO THEIR POWER STRUCTURE, BECAUSE NATURE ITSELF IS AGAINST WOMEN HAVING ANY POWER, ANY ADVANCEMENT CAN UPSET THIS UNNATURAL BALANCE, BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T EXIST TO BEGIN WITHIt's been said a million times, but we need a system, ANYTHING, that takes away all women's rights. Anything less is complete failure.", "BlkPillPres said:True, that is the correct interpretation, you also added something in that I didn't (though it is inferred), that women's happiness depends on male sadness, whilst men can be happy independent from women, and that's because women are the objects that are acted upon, and men are the subjects who act, the actor can exist and function without objects, but an objects only purpose is to be acted upon, it is all that it can doMen don't need women, but women need menYou explained it really well tbh. High IQ.", "good thread. high IQ" ]
VentingHave you been an antisocial child? And was your social life shit before puberty?
[ "Did you had behavoural problems as a child? I was very violent allways got into fights with other kids and was a true alpha in my young years 3-12. I was faster developed and at the top of the pecking order before foids where involved. Which means in a world without sexuality i had no problem.Puberty and the fact that i lacked female validation ruined my life and made me to an social outcast.But my question is: Was your life especially your social life shit before you did hit puberty? Or was everything ok before foids used there vaginas to screw social hirarchy?", "My social life is and always has been nonexistent. Got beaten up and made fun of by pretty much anyone at school because I had such a pathetic body. Fuck the world", "I was always an outcast and had few friends and even fewer real ones, always invisible to foids", "It was shit but after becoming an adult, I got incel friends", "Holy shit, you actually used the word antisocial correctly, props to you man.I voted that I was an outcast, but you don't need to be violent to be an outcast. I was just mute in class from 9 onwards. Before I had tried being a jester and I wasn't witty enough for it. I only had a friend when I was 11 or so. Dropped him after he asked me if I was gay in a Skype group call.Thanks for subscribing to my blog.", "CrookedOzCel said:My social life is and always has been nonexistent. Got beaten up and made fun of by pretty much anyone at school because I had such a pathetic body. Fuck the worldSorry for beating guys like you up, i got beaten up by my brother and what i learned from him was to beat the weak.", "For the most part I was an outcast, I've met only 2 friends who I'd play vidya with online but they've probably roped or pissed off.", "it was pretty bad but i also fought against it and always had at least one friend at each life stagethe problem is there were never any romantic opportunities anyway where I could 'gather all my energy' and 'just be myself' to make the most of it", "At a very young age (6/7), I was very outgoing and would go up to strangers and talk with them whenever I wanted. I seemed to get that out at a young age, because by my early teens I had become very introverted.", "I hit puberty very early and was much bigger and stronger than everyone else in my year for a few years. For those few years I was treated much better by my peers and made friends easily. Before and after this period I am basically invisible, mediocre and forgettable to other people. I experienced the blackpill.", "Yes bro. I was violent as well and totally incompatible with other people when I was a kid. Now, I am high inhib and can at least barely pretend being a normie, but I could not control myself that way when I was younger.", "I used to be fine when I was a kid but puberty kicked in and foids ruined the hierarchy. Former friends that I used to relate to and have respect to have either gone to different schools or talk about holes or basic normalfag shit 24/7. Me and my current friends just dick around and sometimes play D&D.", "a lot of frensfrens ? ", "I was more social and low inhib before puberty fucked me up", "I wasn´t antisocial as a child, they made me like that. I was quiet, but I was also known to retaliate so aggressively that usually required the teachers to protect the bullies from me.My social life has been always crappy at best, the only saving grace is that I have a few trusted friends, that´s all.", "I was introverted but still had childhood low inhibition to help me out so I could usually manage socially to varying degrees. Then right at the start of highschool I got hit with severe acne which made me truly aware of my appearance for the first time (outside of being bullied over my height before). I still managed to make a few friends based around my hobbies but by senior year they were gone.As an adult I haven't had an acquaintance much less a friend, I think its because when you're a kid people are sometimes open to being around you just because you have vaguely similar interests but as an adult people usually have all the friends they'll ever want and only consider ok what can this person do for ME.", "From Kindergarten to 7th grade i was somewhat an outcast, but was atleast able to try to talk to some people back then. In highschool i was basically an outcast for sure, along with the other incel type teens. We had a small group of 3 or 4. In my last 2 years of highschool i basically was a DEFINITE outcast and only socialised if i had to talk in class or attempted to crack a joke infront of a room of normies. Looking back i just embarrassed myself.Now i'm a NEET who didn't graduate highschool, and only have 1 online friend, no IRL friends to speak of.", "Ugly_equals_Death said:Did you had behavoural problems as a child? I was very violent allways got into fights with other kids and was a true alpha in my young years 3-12. I was faster developed and at the top of the pecking order before foids where involved. Which means in a world without sexuality i had no problem.Puberty and the fact that i lacked female validation ruined my life and made me to an social outcast.But my question is: Was your life especially your social life shit before you did hit puberty? Or was everything ok before foids used there vaginas to screw social hirarchy?I was always the small and quiet kid and I had some experience of getting bullied but it was manageable, my life didn't really turn to shit until puberty tbh.", "I was bullied thus my reason for being anti-social, as I grew up my social life got worse.", "So far the chance is 30% that puberty made you an incel. ", "no before puberty i had a few friends even though i was very shy now i'm totally autistic", "I had friends and was integrated into the social group. But at a certain point after puberty, I started to deject myself. Friends became acquaintances. I ignored my male peers and they ignored me. I spend most of my free time playing video games and being in front of the computer. The lack of an allowance really pissed me off and depressed me. I was basically living without any money. I missed out on a lot of social trends that way.I started to not take care of myself as much. I wasn't encouraged to take up any hobbies or extra curricular skills.In addition to that puberty hit me really hard and kinda got crippling social anxiety. It might have been because of porn and fapping, I found out later.Girls still invited me to their birthday parties long after I became a complete loner and was already a Ghost for some reason, but I never went.", "MrIncelSaySo2000 said:I was bullied thus my reason for being anti-social, as I grew up my social life got worse.", "Im asocial because of my autism, and I have a decent verbal IQ but I'm mentally slower than average which cancels it out. So I was bullied because of looks and behaviour. I hate normies as much as I hate myself, but them bullying and isolating me is only part of human nature. I'm a subhuman because I'm too far from being a normie. A 70 IQ retard is less of a subhuman than me, if he can act like a normal human and/or looks like one. Thanks nature", "It was easy in childhood to have friends, in teen years social hell started", "I will never forget being ostracized since the first grade, when a group of stuck up rice and white bitches started mocking me while laughing at me for no reason.", "Always had very few irl friends, before puberty only had a couple", "I dont remember", "been an outcast since kindergarten. Very young age. My parents def had an effect on this", "I was asocial but girls sometimes seemed to like me before puberty (not a brag, I was not into them at that age) then puberty came along and I was a pariah.", "No. I was forced to adapt to that.", "Yeah, if you're not NT it's impossible to make friends even as a kid. My only friends are other incels", "I always had some friends in various chapters of my life but my pool of friends progressively decreased every stage of my life and usually just revolved around mildly autistic guys and retards. Also a couple of chads here and there.Lately I haven't met anyone new. I have no friends now. None. I am ok with that though. I am pretty sure it's hard to call any of my friends I knew 'real' friends. They were just people I hanged out with and done things together with but nobody I could speak freely to like I do here.That in fact, makes you guys my only real friends. And we don't even know each other. How ironic.", "I was really popular and had a good social life before puberty. Then it all stopped in 5th grade, when I moved.", "All my problems started around age 11 (beginning of puberty). I was a normal kid before that.", "yeah. my problems started around the age of 12 when i developed social anxiety out of nowhere and combine this with moving to another country and you have a recipe for disaster.", "Ever since I was a kid, I was a weirdo who used to stand by a far off tree by myself as all the future chads played football and basketball. I just stood by the tree thinking about movies and wanting to be home.", "Because I was handsome pre-puberty, I had a good social life until 5th grade. That was the first time I experienced lonelyness and sadness because of my lacking social life.", "Completely terrible, starting from kindergarten I was a quiet autistic weirdo. Luckily in middle school I formed a tight knit group of low status rejects. We've drifted apart but that got us all through school until we separated. After high school we coped with weed and just cruising around town at night, probably the only positive social stuff I had.", "Yep. Yet the cucks around me will insist I have a good life JFL. 99% of people in my area giga lifemog me to hell and back. Just one of the many reasons I hate normshits and foids.", "I lived a decent life and then I had to wear glasses and became ugly. After that my life ended because your life is a direct reflection of the way that you look.", "GeneticFilth said:I lived a decent life and then I had to wear glasses and became ugly. After that my life ended because your life is a direct reflection of the way that you look.The glassespill is brutal bro, If I didn't wear glasses I would've been a jock normie, I don't wear them anymore thankfully. Squintmaxxing is the way to go", "GetFucked said:The glassespill is brutal bro, If I didn't wear glasses I would've been a jock normie, I don't wear them anymore thankfully. Squintmaxxing is the way to goIt's so comically bad. Glasses are supposed to help your trash genes, but have the consequence of making you look ugly as fuck unless you have a decent-good forward grown maxilla and mandible. You can't even wear contacts when you're young because your eyes aren't done growing. Shit is cancer. Everyone that has bad eyesight wears contacts after puberty except for tallfags.", "GeneticFilth said:It's so comically bad. Glasses are supposed to help your trash genes, but have the consequence of making you look ugly as fuck unless you have a decent-good forward grown maxilla and mandible. You can't even wear contacts when you're young because your eyes aren't done growing. Shit is cancer. Everyone that has bad eyesight wears contacts after puberty except for tallfags.Too right man, plus everyone assumes you're intelligent and they can bum answers off you while in school. I stopped wearing glasses because I legit thought they we're making my vision worse, they do the exact fucking opposite of their intended use.", "Constant fights, against school authorities and everyone on school who tried to mock me or touch me to fight, but always idealized a life never meant since them; gladly, i never were nor will ever tolerate people in real life trying to put me down or submit me to their will at the expense of my autonomy and Ego. It is surprising i was not considered delinquent by their standards; Today, i know the risk that exists, so more cautious and less choleric approach, but i wish things were better back them, instead of choking, beating and cursing the hordes of classmates that wanted to bully me, this was 2017 to before." ]
Numales and cucks should be killed
[ "Cuckolds, white knights, male feminists, men who donate to female streamers, etc. I believe men that beta should be killed.", "I agree.Beta cucks should be purged from society for good.", "Lol so much cope, the day that happens is when pigs fly. Women feed on beta males, and retarded cucks giving them money. They seek validation, compliments and pretty much everything else. Even if women could kill these beta males, they wouldnt because beta males existing and contributing to the FHO's degeneracy is how WOMEN THRIVE in this degenerate society.", "PM_ME_STRIPPERS said:retarded cucks giving them money.There are many in our world.View: ", "water thread", "Based OG thread", "Re: Rule 1 of lifeAnonyAnonymousJoin Date: 2013-06-23Post Count: 6332#150780217Sunday, November 30, 2014 3:40 AM CSTThe severity of a problem doesn't necessarily depend on a person's Gender alone, simply because a person is a Female doesn't make any problems they're experiencing more significant than yours.View: ", "men's T is getting lower and lower, we aren't the same as our ancestors or even fathers", "glowIntheDark said:water threadI am a misogynist.", "Re: i wish i was a girl on OTAnonyAnonymousJoin Date: 2013-06-23Post Count: 6332#180838357Friday, January 01, 2016 12:02 PM CSTYes, female individuals regularly rely on the innate-attraction and submission of naive male individuals to manipulate social-interaction.This is evident throughout society.Re: social life: do you have one?AnonyAnonymousJoin Date: 2013-06-23Post Count: 6332#181237031Thursday, January 07, 2016 2:25 PM CSThey anony i see you still haven't grown upI presume you are a female individual, yes? If so, my argument is further validated.Re: Why does OT hate feminists?AnonyAnonymousJoin Date: 2013-06-23Post Count: 6332#181242283Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:04 PM CSTSimple: Feminists are narcissistic female individuals seeking to manipulate vulnerable males.Re: i wish i was a girl on OTAnonyAnonymousJoin Date: 2013-06-23Post Count: 6332#182187706Friday, January 22, 2016 5:11 PM CSTOT girls are so ugly irl thoughAny female individuals that provides photos of themselves over the Internet on a forum orientated around adolescent schoolchildren are merely an attention-garnering women.Re: ot i need help with womenAnonyAnonymousJoin Date: 2013-06-23Post Count: 6332#183146877Sunday, February 07, 2016 3:37 AM CSTI am concerned by your naivety.Resist your harmful instinctual desires. Female individuals are nothing more than puppeteers suffering from inherently-narcissistic desires. This is evident throughout leftist society.Private research of philosophy and mathematics is the only method that you should actively lust towards. Anything other than that is merely designed by society to manipulate you on a psychological-level.Re: My friend says she is doing a BDSM test.AnonyAnonymousJoin Date: 2013-06-23Post Count: 6332#183147405Sunday, February 07, 2016 4:11 AM CSTYes, all women love to engage in sadomasochistic behavior.It gives them a narcissistic boost knowing that naive male individuals will exert so much effort to pleasure them under the guise of punishment.Truly, the female individual is the dominant person during the interaction.", "View: ", "I don't promote violence, this was 6 years ago.", "View: ", "View: why are female oters so worshippedParadigmaticAnonJoin Date: 2016-01-25Post Count: 182#183476981Friday, February 12, 2016 8:55 PM CSTWesternized society as a whole is biased in favor of female individuals.Women are regularly conveyed as oppressed and given special privileges merely because of the presence of a pleasuring orifice.The individuals worshiping them are naive and impulsive adolescent males who regularly fantasize about receiving access to such splendid openings.Truly, it is a system of brownie-points.", "View: y do ppl think being a feminist is a bad thingParadigmaticAnonJoin Date: 2016-01-25Post Count: 182#182588736Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:03 PM CSTGenuine gender equality is merely a theoretical concept. It cannot exist within concrete-reality, due to obviously-restrictive criteria.Feminism is nothing more than a ideological-system designed to transition society into a matriarchy through the use of highly-magnified issues such as male favoritism or oppression of female s/ex/ual/ity. That is why it is favored by leftistic imbeciles, because it will make the process of governmental assimilation significantly easier.An individual who truly desires equality throughout society on a per-gender basis would not solely focus on a particular group, they would attempt to revise the negative flaws of each societal group accordingly.The flaws of feminism are evident throughout liberal media propaganda.", "View: y do ppl think being a feminist is a bad thingParadigmaticAnonJoin Date: 2016-01-25Post Count: 182#182590414Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:25 PM CSTmisogynistic jerksmisogynistic jerks? Misogyny is actually quite good. Female individuals manipulate society using the presence of an orifice.Society fares very well when female influence is restrained.", "View: Why Are Neuro-Typical Individual So Strange?ParadigmaticAnonJoin Date: 2016-01-25Post Count: 182#182592230Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:52 PM CSTPlease describe the reason for this behavior to me.I am frustrated by my interaction with beautiful, intelligent, neuro-typical Caucasian female individuals that continue to avoid explicitly stating their intentions.", "tehgymcel420 said:Cuckolds, white knights, male feminists, men who donate to female streamers, etc. I believe men that beta should be killed.I strongly disagree. First, if you think that men who donate to male streamers are fine, then men who donate to female streamers for similar reasons (e.g. they provide interesting content) should also be fine. Then, even I have been considered a white knight for defending a woman once. I still want to be able to defend or criticise everyone independent of gender purely based on their behaviour and intentions.", "View: Does anyone here remember SamanthaTheEvil?ParadigmaticAnonJoin Date: 2016-01-25Post Count: 182#182862082Monday, February 01, 2016 7:52 PM CSTTypical female adolescent schoolchild seeking attention from naive/idiotic male individuals over the Internet.", "...!I'll check further later.", "...", "...", "Beta slave males are an important asset. They’re the ones who follow orders and build civilisation. Imagine if everyone was an independent alpha male. Chaos. Absolute chaos and madness.", "I think we should post normally today....", "Repulsive123 said:men's T is getting lower and lower, we aren't the same as our ancestors or even fathersWelcome to soyland " ]
BlackpillWhy White Incels Tend To Have Racial Allegience (Theyve Yet To Experience Race Level Rejection)
[ "I'm pretty sure this experience is the same for all ethnics of the darker variety, our culture is weirdly monolithic, and if you don't fit into a mold, you face a kind of rejection that I just realized is probably foreign to whites; RACE LEVEL REJECTION - being rejected and excluded by your entire race for not being <insert race> enough (black enough, indian enough, etc) based on the cultural expectations of <insert race>.I only just realize this today, but it makes sense why white incels still see themselves as part of this race, all this time I've been raging at them, thinking that they are just being blue pilled by choice, but really and truly, they just haven't faced race level rejection and they likely never will, due to the difference in relationship dynamics of their race, there's nothing they have to do to be white enough, so they will never face a collective racial rejection for not reaching that standard.AS A WHITE MAN, YOU CAN FAIL AT BEING ATTRACTIVEAS AN ETHNIC MAN YOU CAN LITERALLY FAIL AT BEING YOUR RACE, ONTOP OF FAIL AT BEING ATTRACTIVEAs a black man, you aren't JUST BLACK, you have to BE BLACK, being black is a persona not a race, and if you aren't BLACK ENOUGH then you aren't ATTRACTIVE ENOUGHIn order for a black man to be the peak of attractiveness for his race he has to have certain attributes and/or skills that are representative of his race, this is why you see so many black men clamoring to all fit into the same mold, because if we don't, we don't get laidWhereas a white guy, just has to be white (hence JBW), and he's considered attractive, there is no criteria of whiteness that a white man has to live up to to be considered attractive, there is nothing culturally that is expected of whites OTHER THAN TO BE WHITE (have the physical features and genetics associated with being white).As long as a man is white, anything else from that point is being layered upon a strong foundation of attractiveness (especailly for ethnic women) and only makes him more attractive. I've seen white guys that act awkward and women (ethnic women) are still looking on at them in awe just because they a white, and no they weren't even a chad lite, average looking white guys, one I remember was tall though so I guess you could argue his tallness helped, but what about the rest who were my heightA black man has to BE BLACK (AS IN ACTIONS AND BEHAVIOR) to be attractiveA white man has to BE WHITE (AS IN JUST EXIST) to be attractiveIts a completely different dynamic, I'm sure white guys during their school days are worried about being popular, and fitting in, and hanging with the cool kids, etc. A black guy has all of the above, plus don't you dare like white music, or speak properly, or not be able to dance, or not like black music, or <insert different interest>, else you are no longer attractive and your chances to get a date go through the floor past earths bedrockIf you aren't black enough, you don't even count as part of your race, much more a prospective mateWhen I think about it, this is why I see so many white incels have racial allegiance, because they still see themselves AS PART OF THEIR RACE, and this is why ethnic incels, especially black incels, usually have no racial allegiance, because we've already been rejected by our entire race for not fitting into the mold of our respective ethnicities, white incels, just get rejected by society at a base level, the rejection ethnics face goes much deeper, you are literally like a rogue agent, your race doesn't accept you, and society as a whole doesn't accept you, if white incels faced the same dynamic as incels there wouldn't be so many lets save the white race retards on this site obsessed with racial allegiance, a lot of them still see themselves as white men rather than rejected men, because they've yet to be rejected on a racial level", "BlkPillPres said:A black man has to BE BLACK (AS IN ACTIONS AND BEHAVIOR) to be attractive", "White knighting is built into their dna, I'm an amerimutt so don't think I hate whites. Had a friend literally try to white knight for a random strung out heroin hobowhore, all i said was you really want to die bro?", "Just being rejected by modern women doesn't mean the whole race rejects someone", "Blackpill Rage said:I never claimed black chads needed to do this, so I think you may be responding against some strawman in your head, just posting a meme image and not elaborating on what exactly you disagree with doesn't make any points in your favor", "BlkPillPres said:A white man has to BE WHITE (AS IN JUST EXIST) to be attractive", "PectusManletScarCel said:Just being rejected by modern women doesn't mean the whole race rejects someoneI never made that claim", "BlkPillPres said:I'm pretty sure this experience is the same for all ethnics of the darker variety, our culture is weirdly monolithic, and if you don't fit into a mold, you face a kind of rejection that I just realized is probably foreign to whites; RACE LEVEL REJECTION - being rejected and excluded by your entire race for not being <insert race> enough (black enough, indian enough, etc) based on the cultural expectations of <insert race>.I only just realize this today, but it makes sense why white incels still see themselves as part of this race, all this time I've been raging at them, thinking that they are just being blue pilled by choice, but really and truly, they just haven't faced race level rejection and they likely never will, due to the difference in relationship dynamics of their race, there's nothing they have to do to be white enough, so they will never face a collection racial rejection for not reaching that standard.As a black man, you aren't JUST BLACK, you have to BE BLACK, being black is a persona not a race, and if you aren't BLACK ENOUGH then you aren't ATTRACTIVE ENOUGHIn order for a black man to be the peak of attractiveness for his race he has to have certain attributes and/or skills that are representative of his race, this is why you see so many black men clamoring to all fit into the same mold, because if we don't, we don't get laidWhereas a white guy, just has to be white (hence JBW), and he's considered attractive, there is no criteria of whiteness that a white man has to live up to to be considered attractive, there is nothing culturally that is expected of whites OTHER THAN TO BE WHITE (have the physical features and genetics associated with being white).As long as a man is white, anything else from that point is being layered upon a strong foundation of attractiveness (especailly for ethnic women) and only makes him more attractive. I've seen white guys that act awkward and women (ethnic women) are still looking on at them in awe just because they a white, and no they weren't even a chad lite, average looking white guys, one I remember was tall though so I guess you could argue his tallness helped, but what about the rest who were my heightA black man has to BE BLACK (AS IN ACTIONS AND BEHAVIOR) to be attractiveA white man has to BE WHITE (AS IN JUST EXIST) to be attractiveIts a completely different dynamic, I'm sure white guys during their school days are worried about being popular, and fitting in, and hanging with the cool kids, etc. A black guy has all of the above, plus don't you dare like white music, or speak properly, or not be able to dance, or not like black music, or <insert different interest>, else you are no longer attractive and your chances to get a date go through the floor past earths bedrockIf you aren't black enough, you don't even count as part of your race, much more a prospective mateWhen I think about it, this is why I see so many white incels have racial allegiance, because they still see themselves AS PART OF THEIR RACE, and this is why ethnic incels, especially black incels, usually have no racial allegiance, because we've already been rejected by our entire race for not fitting into the mold of our respective ethnicities, white incels, just get rejected by society at a base level, the rejection ethnics face goes much deeper, you are literally like a rogue agent, your race doesn't accept you, and society as a whole doesn't accept you, if white incels faced the same dynamic as incels there wouldn't be so many lets save the white race retards on this site obsessed with racial allegiance, a lot of them still see themselves as white men rather than rejected men, because they've yet to be rejected on a racial levelDo your relatives act more black than you?", "VirtueSignaller said:Do your relatives act more black than you?Yes", "Insomniac said: 118725I'm guessing BPP is working under the assumption that the non-white man in question has average looks. Behavior matters when you're in that middle ground between incel and Chad.", "Insomniac said: 118725I think you are misinterpreting that statement, I obviously don't mean all white men are attractive enough to get a date by default, by virtue of being white, else why would I use the term white incels in my postLike I told @Blackpill Rage BlkPillPres said:I think you may be responding against some strawman in your head, just posting a meme image and not elaborating on what exactly you disagree with doesn't make any points in your favor", "BlkPillPres said:YesKek I imagine you like a black Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory. Your mom making some fried chicken watching Oprah telling you to go to church. Your homies trying to peer pressure you into smoking crack whereas you instead decide to stay in your room devising your sinister plans to escape the unremitting hell which is inceldom kek.", "KingOfRome said:I'm guessing BPP is working under the assumption that the non-white man in question has average looks. Behavior matters when you're in that middle ground between incel and Chad.No, my point isn't that just by being white you are attractive enough to get laid or a date, my point is that just by being white you already have all your bases covered and everything else from that point on is cake, if you are white and have average looks you are set, if you are black and have average looks you still have to worry about not speaking white, not sounding too smart, speaking black enough, being too dark, not being athletic enough, not having black enough tastes in art, music, etc, etcWhite bases are covered automatically by virtue of existing, there is nothing expected of whites, by whites, OTHER THAN BEING WHITE, that's the point, whereas for blacks (and I'm sure other ethnic races) our bases have to be covered manually, there are standards you have to meet to be black enough, and THEN you can worry about being attractive enough. If you aren't black enough, you haven't met even the minimum requirements to get a black woman to be attracted to you (unless you are a Tyrone).VirtueSignaller said:Kek I imagine you like a black Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory. Your mom making some fried chicken watching Oprah telling you to go to church. Your homies trying to peer pressure you into smoking crack whereas you instead decide to stay in your room devising your sinister plans to escape the unremitting hell which is inceldom kek.Sometimes I feel like I was born in the wrong body, I am an anomaly, something that likely should not have happened, none of my family members are anything like me, and I sometimes doubt there's someone like me in my entire country. I use to be on poll for a bit, looking for my flag to see posts by others like myself, I was the only one of my flag I ever saw there lol, I'm fucking trapped dude, there is only me.", "BlkPillPres said:my point is that just by being white you already have all your bases covered and everything else from that point on is cake, if you are white and have average looks you are set, if you are black and have average looks you still have to worry about not speaking white, not sounding to smart, being too dark, not being athletic enough, not having black enough tastes in art, music, etc, etcI was literally clarifying that for you. I absolutely do not see why you're being argumentative unless you're also saying above-average-looking ethnics can be considered unattractive for not behaving ethnic enough.", "BlkPillPres said:No, my point isn't that just by being white you are attractive enough to get laid or a date, my point is that just by being white you already have all your bases covered and everything else from that point on is cake, if you are white and have average looks you are set, if you are black and have average looks you still have to worry about not speaking white, not sounding too smart, speaking black enough, being too dark, not being athletic enough, not having black enough tastes in art, music, etc, etcWhite bases are covered automatically by virtue of existing, there is nothing expected of whites, by whites, OTHER THAN BEING WHITE, that's the point, whereas for blacks (and I'm sure other ethnic races) our bases have to be covered manually, there are standards you have to meet to be black enough, and THEN you can worry about being attractive enough. If you aren't black enough, you haven't met even the minimum requirements to get a black woman to be attracted to you (unless you are a Tyrone).Sometimes I feel like I was born in the wrong body, I am an anomaly, something that likely should not have happened, none of my family members are anything like me, and I sometimes doubt there's someone like me in my entire country. I use to be on poll for a bit, looking for my flag to see posts by others like myself, I was the only one of my flag I ever saw there lol, I'm fucking trapped dude, there is only me.Be grateful you are higher iq than your fellow africancels. Men are unique. Foids are clones. I myself am very different. Only logical thing to do is embrace your own unique qualities.", "Idk man, group expectations are based on how the collective acts. Low IQ whites (sub85 IQ) probably have issues acting white, just like niggers above the 100 IQ threshold probably have issues acting black. If you deviate from the norm too much you're always gonna be in a rough spot unless we're talking about the high end of attractiveness and the things associated with it of course", "KingOfRome said:unless you're also saying above-average-looking ethnics can be considered unattractive for not behaving ethnic enough.No, I guess I misread what you were saying, sorryThough I would say there is some variance here, I'd argue:5/10 white > 6/10 ethnic (in ethnic women's eyes)6/10 white > 7/10 ethnic (in ethnic women's eyes)7/10 white > 8/10 ethnic (in ethnic women's eyes)And so on and so forthThat's another dynamic that ethnic incels have to deal with that whites really don't, whites are seen as the conqueror race, which makes white men a social status symbol for ethnic women, so getting a white man is a form of trading upSo its like you are always one league behind no matter whatOf course the race who bares the worst of this are asian men, I feel more sorry for asian men than any other group of incels, no group has been so betrayed by their women, so disenfranchised, so looked down upon culturally and teased for it, and basically told to just take it with stride and accept the joke, its fucking ridiculous, no wonder so many hapas and asians go ER.DeformAspergerCel said:Idk man, group expectations are based on how the collective acts. Low IQ whites (sub85 IQ) probably have issues acting white, just like niggers above the 100 IQ threshold probably have issues acting black. If you deviate from the norm you're always gonna be in a rough spotJFL some examples pleasenot speaking red neck broken english?not being able to hunt?Lol like come on dude, white don't have that same kind of dynamic in their race, I've never even heard of an example, every black person who is well spoken has heard the talking white line from blacks, what examples have whites heard that are a norm for them to hear?", "BlkPillPres said:No, I guess I misread what you were saying, sorryThough I would say there is some variance here, I'd argue:5/10 white > 6/10 ethnic (in ethnic women's eyes)6/10 white > 7/10 ethnic (in ethnic women's eyes)7/10 white > 8/10 ethnic (in ethnic women's eyes)And so on and so forthThat's another dynamic that ethnic incels have to deal with that whites really don't, whites are seen as the conqueror race, which makes white men a social status symbol for ethnic women, so getting a white man is a form of trading upSo its like you are always one league behind no matter whatOf course the race who bares the worst of this are asian men, I feel more sorry for asian men than any other group of incels, no group has been so betrayed by their women, so disenfranchised, so looked down upon culturally and teased for it, and basically told to just take it with stride and accept the joke, its fucking ridiculous, no wonder so many hapas and asians go ER.JFL some examples pleasenot speaking red neck broken english?not being able to hunt?Lol like come on dude, white don't have that same kind of dynamic in their race, I've never even heard of an example, every black person who is well spoken has heard the talking white line from blacks, what examples have whites heard that are a norm for them to hear?Yeah there is something wrong with asians, a lot of them are coping. Notice how not many of them are in this forum?", "Cope. The black man just has to be good looking, as does the white man. This “behaviour” shit is cope, you’re just not good looking", "VirginAutistManlet said:Cope. The black man just has to be good looking, as does the white man. This “behaviour” shit is cope, you’re just not good lookingI like that you've literally made no arguments against my points, try again, merely stating something doesn't make it right by virtue of you saying it, whats your validation?My point isn't that just by being white you are attractive enough to get laid or a date, my point is that just by being white you already have all your bases covered and everything else from that point on is cake, if you are white and have average looks you are set, if you are black and have average looks you still have to worry about not speaking white, not sounding too smart, speaking black enough, being too dark, not being athletic enough, not having black enough tastes in art, music, etc, etcWhite bases are covered automatically by virtue of existing, there is nothing expected of whites, by whites, OTHER THAN BEING WHITE, that's the point, whereas for blacks (and I'm sure other ethnic races) our bases have to be covered manually, there are standards you have to meet to be black enough, and THEN you can worry about being attractive enough. If you aren't black enough, you haven't met even the minimum requirements to get a black woman to be attracted to you (unless you are a Tyrone).You can't argue against that, any black guy who speaks proper english gets teased and rejected by other blacks from young for speaking white, if you can't dance, or sing, or aren't talented in some way that's some more points off your black card, don't act like a nigger, not thugging or affiliated with any gangs or street guys, that's some more points off the card, don't like black music same thing, on and on it goesWHITE MEN HAVE NO EQUIVALENT TO THIS DYNAMIC", "satoshisacuck said:Yeah there is something wrong with asians, a lot of them are coping. Notice how not many of them are in this forum?do you think they are slaying young white JB's by kpopmaxxing?", "satoshisacuck said:Yeah there is something wrong with asians, a lot of them are coping. Notice how not many of them are in this forum?I've never met an asian guy who talked about women or seemed to give even one fuck about them.", "mylifeistrash said:I've never met an asian guy who talked about women or seemed to give even one fuck about them.How do they do it?", "angrycurrycel said:How do they do it?I'd say it's pride but honestly they seem to just not give a fuck. Maybe their moms were assholes to them.", "VirginAutistManlet said:Cope. The black man just has to be good looking, as does the white man. This “behaviour” shit is cope, you’re just not good lookingmost black guys are ugly. they get laid because they thugmax", "satoshisacuck said:Yeah there is something wrong with asians, a lot of them are coping. Notice how not many of them are in this forum?satoshisacuck said:Yeah there is something wrong with asians, a lot of them are coping. Notice how not many of them are in this forum?Definetly agree. Very few asians seem woke yet they are one of the races most affected by racial hypergamy and lookism. When i was at uni, all the asians seemed to be masters at coping via anime and games. probably main reason they arent as enraged as whites and other ethnic races. I also notice very few hispanics here, once again i think hispanics cope very well too.", "shoji said:most black guys are ugly. they get laid because they thugmaxAnother thing I keep pointing out but people don't listen, the black race is not known for its facial attractiveness, and that's for a reason, blacks have more testosterone on average than other races, that's good for athleticism, but bad for facial attractiveness, it can usually result in very ogre tier facial features wide broad noses, big wide lips, things don't look very well proportioned, the symmetry is terribleYou'll also notice that there are ogre tier white incels who are usally tall and large, and their facial features are shit, its because they have more testosterone that averageThe women also tend to end up with man face, there are a lot of black women I have seen that literally just look like dudes with wigs onThis is why black attractiveness tends to revolve around other facets like being tall, being athletic and fit, having a large penis, etc.LDARBuddah said:Whitecels =FakecelsDon't troll", "BlkPillPres said:No, my point isn't that just by being white you are attractive enough to get laid or a date, my point is that just by being white you already have all your bases covered and everything else from that point on is cake, if you are white and have average looks you are set, if you are black and have average looks you still have to worry about not speaking white, not sounding too smart, speaking black enough, being too dark, not being athletic enough, not having black enough tastes in art, music, etc, etcWhite bases are covered automatically by virtue of existing, there is nothing expected of whites, by whites, OTHER THAN BEING WHITE, that's the point, whereas for blacks (and I'm sure other ethnic races) our bases have to be covered manually, there are standards you have to meet to be black enough, and THEN you can worry about being attractive enough. If you aren't black enough, you haven't met even the minimum requirements to get a black woman to be attracted to you (unless you are a Tyrone).Sometimes I feel like I was born in the wrong body, I am an anomaly, something that likely should not have happened, none of my family members are anything like me, and I sometimes doubt there's someone like me in my entire country. I use to be on poll for a bit, looking for my flag to see posts by others like myself, I was the only one of my flag I ever saw there lol, I'm fucking trapped dude, there is only me.So you're a normal guy trapped in a niggers body?", "Black men are automatically incel due to their women being fat and ugly, masculine, even if you do date outside your race your most likely to get some hamplanet/sloppy seconds.", "Race traitors are one of the biggest causes behind inceldom. If people feel some sort of allegiance towards their own race, it will prevent truecel mongrels from being born and people don't have to worry about their women being stolen by men of other races that mog them. Niggers ridicule racial allegiance because they have never known this concept, only the civilised races have. I swear, I'm getting so sick of black posters making these race-bait type threads. Even online, all you can do is cry about muh racist whitey.", "I don't know about any of that shit, I just know that personally speaking the majority of times I've received bullying or had ppl getting aggressive or being dicks in general it's been from blacks, Kurds & other assorted Muslims running racism game 'cos I'm not one of them, yeah had altercations with asshole whites too but they were the lowest scum chavs with a bright future of jail time prospects.Haven't had issues with other races tbf. White's in England segregate based on income bracket, drinkers v non drinkers & you have to NT chatty bastard.Sister was bullied by blacks in schoolFather was mugged at knifepoint by a blackHad a second cousin that was raped by a couple of blacksGood ol' London.", "Legit but you're wrong in one thing: A very masculine male of any race>beta male. If they are at the same level in looks. A 5/10 white guy who is into sports, doing drugs and other manly things > nerdy 5/10 white guy who is conservative and introvert.Being extrovert and manly is basically a requirement to be a black man. Other than that, you must have status/money or at least 8/10 in looks to overcome those limitations.", "BlkPillPres said:I like that you've literally made no arguments against my points, try again, merely stating something doesn't make it right by virtue of you saying it, whats your validation?My point isn't that just by being white you are attractive enough to get laid or a date, my point is that just by being white you already have all your bases covered and everything else from that point on is cake, if you are white and have average looks you are set, if you are black and have average looks you still have to worry about not speaking white, not sounding too smart, speaking black enough, being too dark, not being athletic enough, not having black enough tastes in art, music, etc, etcWhite bases are covered automatically by virtue of existing, there is nothing expected of whites, by whites, OTHER THAN BEING WHITE, that's the point, whereas for blacks (and I'm sure other ethnic races) our bases have to be covered manually, there are standards you have to meet to be black enough, and THEN you can worry about being attractive enough. If you aren't black enough, you haven't met even the minimum requirements to get a black woman to be attracted to you (unless you are a Tyrone).You can't argue against that, any black guy who speaks proper english gets teased and rejected by other blacks from young for speaking white, if you can't dance, or sing, or aren't talented in some way that's some more points off your black card, don't act like a nigger, not thugging or affiliated with any gangs or street guys, that's some more points off the card, don't like black music same thing, on and on it goesWHITE MEN HAVE NO EQUIVALENT TO THIS DYNAMICI actually got into a physical fight and fired from my job in the past because some fucking ghetto cunt hated me for not being black enough and working the position he wanted. However I dont believe being ghetto is a requirement to getting laid.Ive seen non ghetto blacks with girlfriends and they were skaters and their girlfriends were non ghetto black woman or of another race. African immigrants coming from Liberia and Nigeria arent ghetto either and date their fellow homeland Africans, they dont have to act like a typical American black.", "Jbw or BBC? Lol.Unfortunately there are no ethics near me that I should try to fuck. Except for obese latino moms. But I no comprende.As a mayo/cum-skin, I love my race EVEN THOUGH they hate me. They are my tribe. Whites are being genocided and are too jewed to know it! As much as I should hate them, I hate the (((scum))) that brainwashed them into stupidity more.As a black you should check out what Farrakhan and NOI (nation of Islam) says about the jews. = they brought blacks to America! (Hiding behind the Dutch flag.) And have brainwashed the blacks to act ghetto... Etc.I can say as a white incel I have sympathy for ethnics incels (but not violent niggers/ Somalis) since we are also a tribe. A tribe of the unloved.Even though your people hate you, and my people hate me, they are still our blood.Jfl that whites got it good. NOBODY HAS IT GOOD, EXCEPT CHAD AND TYRONE!", "It’s every whitecels duty to report faggot racebaiting bullshit like this.OP, go fuck yourself.", "BlkPillPres said:A white man has to BE WHITE (AS IN JUST EXIST) to be attractivehere we go again.", "Giegue said:here we go again.Yes, here we go again indeed, quoting one line out of context, and purposefully going out of your way not to understand my points due to personal biasRead morons, readBlkPillPres said:My point isn't that just by being white you are attractive enough to get laid or a date, my point is that just by being white you already have all your bases covered and everything else from that point on is cake, if you are white and have average looks you are set, if you are black and have average looks you still have to worry about not speaking white, not sounding too smart, speaking black enough, being too dark, not being athletic enough, not having black enough tastes in art, music, etc, etcWhite bases are covered automatically by virtue of existing, there is nothing expected of whites, by whites, OTHER THAN BEING WHITE, that's the point, whereas for blacks (and I'm sure other ethnic races) our bases have to be covered manually, there are standards you have to meet to be black enough, and THEN you can worry about being attractive enough. If you aren't black enough, you haven't met even the minimum requirements to get a black woman to be attracted to you (unless you are a Tyrone).You can't argue against that, any black guy who speaks proper english gets teased and rejected by other blacks from young for speaking white, if you can't dance, or sing, or aren't talented in some way that's some more points off your black card, don't act like a nigger, not thugging or affiliated with any gangs or street guys, that's some more points off the card, don't like black music same thing, on and on it goesWHITE MEN HAVE NO EQUIVALENT TO THIS DYNAMICNotQuiteChadLite said:It’s every whitecels duty to report faggot racebaiting bullshit like this.OP, go fuck yourself.I can tell you didn't even read the post at all lol", "To get accepted as a black by your fellow blacks you need to act like chimp", "Blackpill Rage said:I think it is pretty accurate bec. humans are sensitive to the halo effect. A black guy should act perfectly (like a typical black guy) to fulfill his role.", "Cuyen said:To get accepted as a black by your fellow blacks you need to act like chimpYep, that's the entire point of this thread, that whites don't have that same kind of racial dynamic, and that's why there are so many white incels that have allegiance to their race, because they haven't faced racial rejection for having not been white enough, so they still see themselves as white men + social rejects, where as incels like myself (and likely other ethnics) see ourselves as social rejects period as even our race has abandoned usBut idiots like @NotQuiteChadLite and @Giegue don't read, they just see a title and make low effort spam posts, you can immediately tell which users on this site are just here to postmax, and those who actually active users", "You talk about the whites but the ethniks are the same syndrome.", "Muh black card isn't working do you accept food stamps?" ]
ExperimentWhat is your IQ?
[ "I would assume most of us are above average in intelligence but lets see. Mine is 125", "How low can it go without being mentally retarded? I think I'm a few clicks above that.", "Lets do the mensa test again somebody link that shit.", "never done a proper IQ test, I took wonderlic once and scored 38 or so.", "Mine is 128 but this does mean nothing", "I don’t know, probably below average.FrothySolutions said:How low can it go without being mentally retarded? I think I'm a few clicks above that.You seem pretty intelligent to me tbh", "When it comes to school related stuff and driving I’m low IQ as fuck. I’m in the special education classes. But when it’s not school related stuff and stuff I’m interested I’m actually really high IQ. I don’t know what my IQ number is though. I’ve never taken an IQ test.", "I've scored in 120-140 range in the tests I've done. High IQ doesn't really translate into the real world though", "I did an online test (online tests are dogshit, don't rely on them) and I was on the high end. I wasn't a genius by any means, but my IQ was in the high percentile. I also did a proper IQ test a couple years ago, and my results were decent in everything except for processing speed (as I expected). As it turns out, processing speed is my brain's biggest bottleneck. I guess that explains why I'm slow IRL and look retarded in most social situations when thinking on the dime is required. DeformAspergerCel said:never done a proper IQ test, I took wonderlic once and scored 38 or so.How is that even possible? Lol.", "prob below average", "119 when i did mensa online testiq = cope ", "Looksmaxxcel said:I did an online test (online tests are dogshit, don't rely on them) and I was on the high end. I wasn't a genius by any means, but my IQ was in the high percentile.I also did a proper IQ test a couple years ago, and my results were decent in everything except for processing speed (as I expected). As it turns out, processing speed is my brain's biggest bottleneck. I guess that explains why I'm slow IRL and look retarded in most social situations when thinking on the dime is required.How is that even possible? Lol.38 on wonderlic roughly corresponds to 135 IQ", "DeformAspergerCel said:38 on wonderlic roughly corresponds to 135 IQAh, okay. I see. starystulejarz said:119 when i did mensa online testiq = cope Yeah unfortunately IQ is cope unless it translates to knowledge that can help or benefit you in some measurable way.", "really low, can't remember the exact number need to check it later", "dont know or care", "There’s a guy I know who has a 170+ IQ and he thought that despite having no friends his entire life and girls cringing at him that he won Homecoming King because people liked him... That it was a good idea to do online dating, send revealing pics, and leave identifying info in his photos... IQ is good for learning potential but not in common sense ability or how well you can connect with people. Einstein made very little money off of his concepts, many great geniuses died penniless or vastly underpaid. Steve Jobs was a smart guy but Wozniak was the brains behind early Apple, the former could sell big ideas and had much smarter Asians and Jews develop the iShit products while he raked in the big bucks. The latter was good with technical things but had no real ability to connect to people so he’s a guy that gets interviewed about early Apple whereas Jobs was seen as a visionary and is now an icon to many people.", "I once got my iq tested at a mental institution, scored a 106, which would put me in the average range, seems rather accurate in my opinion.", "Insomniac said:I don’t know, probably below average.You seem pretty intelligent to me tbhIQ, I thought, was how fast you can learn things and how long you can retain those things. I can't do either of those things.", "Likely between 9-13", "93rd percentile so 125 thereabouts", "112. I think it's accurate tbh.", "When I was in school I received one and was given 120 (roughly) but I was like 9 when the school tested us.So idfk probably 90 now", "probably pretty high", "Subhumanity comes in a package, life is just relentless", "200+", "Would say my knowledge is high, but my iq isnt that impress tbh. Im usually slower than average coming to conclusions", "I don't know my IQ because I never took an actual IQ test.", "LittleDarkAge said:I've scored in 120-140 range in the tests I've done. High IQ doesn't really translate into the real world though", "Dunno, probably very low.", "mine is 90. i took an iq test irl", "Did one of those tests on the net a long time ago, got 120, 118 on a more recent one.", "starystulejarz said:119 when i did mensa online testiq = cope IQ is worthless if you can't apply it to making money/power. What's the point of being smart, being analytical if all it leads to is more mental damage? The more mentally acute you are the more mental pain comes with our sexual handicapped state of existence.", "Dont know. I dont have the patience to do one.Also JFL at anyone who is LDARing and thinks they're high IQ. You're fucking delusional", "I don't know. I have a feeling I'm low iq though and I'm also very stuttery when I speak and I also don't know how to drive a car or make eye contact so maybe I'm low iq", "138 but it says nothing its just a bs jewtest to make slaves feel superior to other slaves. You can learn the test you have subjective criteria and those test differ to much its like everyone took a different test. I fucking hate those stupid IQ cope threads beleve in the IJEW tests and dont forget the jews are have the highest score ", "130-135 from the official test I took as a kid as well as in middle school but I’m not too sure about it.", "132", "Ugly_equals_Death said:138 but it says nothing its just a bs jewtest to make slaves feel superior to other slaves. You can learn the test you have subjective criteria and those test differ to much its like everyone took a different test. I fucking hate those stupid IQ cope threads beleve in the IJEW tests and dont forget the jews are have the highest score Yea somehow jews/east asians have a higher iq than everyone else on earth yet europeans pretty much invented 90 percent of all modern technology, music, art, philosophy, architecture, etc.. IQ tests are a joke.", "Interesting Connection Between Higher Intelegence and SexThere is a great deal of speculation about how people with high IQs are different than those of aver...www.geniusawakening.comHigh IQ makes you a subhuman.People with high IQ scores start later to have sex, and have fewer partners ", "I never knew what my Iq score was but I was put in a meme gifted program at my school which apparently requires 130+ so somewhere in that range.", "I was tested at 130 at one point but I think they missed a decimal point.", "I can build puzzles and lego at an exceptional level...But I'm underdeveloped socially.", "In school IQ tests I was high IQ and teachers was suprised of the fact that I have such a bad grades. Nowadays I feel like it dropped a lot", "Hopefully very low. I wish it was 50.", "75", "Tests gave results of 98-123 range, but english language IQ result of 77", "Like 90", "121 or something. I took the test online so dunno if its real ", "110 but I don't believe it lmao (Mensa's online test)", "126 when I did Mensa's online test.starystulejarz said:iq = cope ", "I find it funny when everyone says that they are 130+ IQ, because that would mean that, following the bell pattern on the IQ graph, there would be an equal number of people with sub 70 IQ who have also taken the test. I don't know what my IQ is tbh, but it's probably around the 105 mark I'd say, which is a little above average.", "i try some test just now and the numbers are 83 , 93 is average for my shithole .. when iv been kiddo other kids laught at me because they think im dumb . i think im not smart but not that dumb im just insane and those toxic pills fucked me up even morewast time when i go to job interview i have to done some test and i have like 50% done the test and they kick me out and this for part time job ....", "Intelligence is genetic and our genes are pure trash. High IQ people are usually good looking people", "Mine is in the 115-130 range. When do I get my successful life? What never? Oh yeah I'm below average looks and not NT.", "i got 123 on that shitty mensa test back in december, i usually score around that range whenever i do similar online tests", "when I was younger I did above average", "somewhere around 125-130 from what i remember doing shitty online testsfor the record this is not enough for you to make any serious intellectual inroads, but it is enough to make you weird to normiesworst of both worlds", "Ugly_equals_Death said:138 but it says nothing its just a bs jewtest to make slaves feel superior to other slaves.You mean like racism? ", "Mine is in the single digits ", "Honestly i think IQ tests and the concept of IQ is a piece of shit", "Obligatory sobering up comment about how his IQ is average. My IQ is average, it's in the 100-109 range, I'd go grab the test and post the exact number but I'm lazy.", "I never took one, but I think it'd be about average. I'm pretty good at numbers and logical thinking but whenever I talk to someone I can't speak a single coherent sentence. Maybe they balance each other out.", "i think im in the 80's.", "I doubt mines above average or even average or I wouldn't struggle so much with things and I would have done better academically. ", "115, but i couldn't even finish high-school and im on autismbux", "ElliotRodgerGod said:I would assume most of us are above average in intelligence but lets see. Mine is 125i've never taken an actual iq test that costs hundreds of dollars and probably never will, i don't see a reason for it. daily reminder that anything besides an actual iq test, for example anything online, is completely dogshit and means absolutely nothing.", "I did a test when they diagnosed me with autism. I scored very high on understanding written text/learning language skills etc but lower on images/communications lol", "i doit again and i have 106 i think this is not true", "Cybersex is our hope said:I did a test when they diagnosed me with autism. I scored very high on understanding written text/learning language skills etc but lower on images/communications lolQuite cool; so did I.However, I had some difficulties as well:A tale rarely told.", "Never had a genuine iq test IRL but according to the online tests my IQ is around the 122-129 range", "89", "112", "79", "Of course my IQ is 130+ just like everyone else on the internet ", "Higher than the monkeys around me" ]
ExperimentTake the deserted island pill
[ "Say you were on a deserted island with x number of foids, you are the only male. There is zero chance of rescue and you all know it. Also there is plenty of fresh food and water to survive a lifetime. How many foids would there have to be on the island with you for you to asend?", "1 as long as there are no dogs around... If there is no one else to mog you, women can't assess your subhumanity.", "Why would you need consent stranded on an island?", "5 is a good numberI misread the question tho kek", "Depends on the foid tbh. Most wouldn't want to be within 3 feet of me but I imagine that some might eventually come around if I were the only game in town", "Mik_TFL said:1 as long as there are no dogs aroundlol", "Dionysus said:Why would you need consent stranded on an island?edge of the universe IQ answer", "They would probably reject me because I'm not Tarzan Chad, so I would go ER on them.", "Ellsworth said:How many foids would there have to be on the island with you for you to asend?3 billion", "At least like 500", "Dionysus said:Why would you need consent stranded on an island?Based, but for the sake of the experiment let’s assume that is against your moral code for some reason.", "1Mik_TFL said:If there is no one else to mog you, women can't assess your subhumanity.", "Dionysus said:Why would you need consent stranded on an island?", "For those of you saying 1 ", "Mik_TFL said:1 as long as there are no dogs around... If there is no one else to mog you, women can't assess your subhumanity.Nah women will just go to water and fuck fishes", "Reddit_is_for_cucks said:Nah women will just go to water and fuck fishesSwallow the dolphinpill", "just rapemaxxx bro", "Imagine if you woke up on an island to thisYour browser is not able to display this video.what do?" ]
wouldnt it be better?
[ "If attractive men didn't lower their standards for average foids everything would've been easier, the fact that landwhales are accepted and being praised for being some greasy disgusting sluts instead of being ashamed is honestly beyond me, they even have the nerve to shit on overweight males even though they are in the same position.Men who are willing to whiteknight foids in exchange of sex ( even though the chances are almost nonexistent) thus giving them the impression that they are beyond what they actually are.Oh yeah and foids who change men like some pair of socks, absolutely disgusting.What happened to traditional women? they only had some simple tasks to do:Command and control of the householdFeeding the familyRaising the childrenTeaching the children and passing on cultureMaintaining and elevating the family's social statuswhy do you need to be ''independent'' when your life is so easy? just breed that's your whole purpose.I'm actually thinking that bringing islamism would be the best choice It's quite sexist and with the older mentality and It's arranged marriages (which is rare but possible in poor countries.Best society would be a society under sharia law, no rights, no privilege bringing shame upon them and using them as puppets, wouldn't it be just perfect?we are doomed at this point ", "I'll say it once and I'll say it again, foid suffrage should've never been taken seriously in the first place.", "Legit first post @copeHARD_", "LittleDarkAge said:Legit first post @copeHARD_haha yes", "it would also be better if foids didnt receive endless validation on social media", "Men are genetically programmed to fuck as much as possible, and women are genetically programmed to go for the most genetically fit male they can find. Together, we end up here.", "angrycurrycel said:it would also be better if foids didnt receive endless validation on social mediabetter if foids were not allowed to use social media, or even better if all social media was nuked", "DaveBuster said:Men are genetically programmed to fuck as much as possible, and women are genetically programmed to go for the most genetically fit male they can find. Together, we end up here.", "bump cuz true", "copeHARD_ said:haha yes", "ERadicator said:I'll say it once and I'll say it again, foid suffrage should've never been taken seriously in the first place.", "its religious teaching that made men do this. thus religion is gynocentric.", "Deleted member 16455 said:it would also be better if foids didnt receive endless validation on social media" ]
Blackpill[Hard To Swallow Edition] - It Is Contradictory To Value Female Validation Whilst Simultaneously Devaluing Females Themselves
[ "This is something that needs to be addressed, I'm seeing a lot of blue pilled posts against paying for sex, and the most frustrating part isn't their refusal, its the blatant contradiction in their arguments and their mindset, that female validation means more to them than sex, while at the same time speaking about women like they are lower than dirt, its the stupidity that is angering, these idiots can't see the obvious contradiction in their words, let me get to the pointIts completely contradictory to both acknowledge that women are basically instinct driven and illogical, and yet somehow value whether or not they admire you or think highly of youAsk yourself, of what value is a woman's evaluation of you, when you SUPPOSEDLY do not value her as a personHow can you devalue women as an existence, speak of them as illogical, emotional, less intelligent, etc, while at the same time claiming that their evaluation of you is something that matters (do you see the obvious contradiction yet?)THAT WOULD BE LIKE ME SAYING I HAVE A BROKEN MIRROR, YET I TRUST ITS ABILITY TO GIVE ME AN ACCURATE REFLECTIONOne should only value the evaluation given by someone relative to how much they value the logical integrity of said person, in other words, if you truly believe everything the black pill says about women, then by valuing female validation, you are putting stake in the competency of a group of individuals, that you yourself deem as incompetent (OBVIOUS CONTRADICTION)That's a huge contradiction, it doesn't make any sense, I seriously believe most of the guys saying this are posturing and they don't really think badly of women. They are coping and just calling them bad names so they can trick themselves (using mental gymnastics) into thinking that they don't care about women, so they don't feel powerless and trappedThese guys still have a reverence for women which is why they value their validation", "Ive seen a similar thread or post like this before. Nonetheless, it is 100% true. But the only reason we are that way is because our heterosexual biology as men is to be highly attracted to women for genetic immortality, but again, without that, your life as a man is practically an evolutionary failure and that doesnt sit well for some thirsty cucks so they place women on a pedestal, hoping they can attain said genetic immortality.", "hate is a powerful bond.when I see incels insulting women in every post I assume there's still a strong link between them and the opposite sex.(you don't care or feel emotions about something you deem irrelevant).someone who really belives in the blackpill should be completly indifferent towards women.", "TheReaper said:hate is a powerful bond.when I see incels insulting women in every post I assume there's still a strong link between them and the opposite sex.(you don't care or feel emotions about something you deem irrelevant).someone who really belives in the blackpill should be completly indifferent towards women.True, at most their as the OP, stated, retarded, primitive and instinct driven.But so are most cucks. So shit, different sides of the same coin here, the blackpill, is what will truly separate the wheat from the chaff.", "GeneticDysfunction said:Ive seen a similar thread or post like this before.Likely also mines, very few people want to point this out, everybody just seems to be tip toeing around it, and not pointing it out, and letting these comments pass on by like its normal[Hard To Swallow Edition] - Love & Happiness Dont Exist, Female Validation Is Not ValuableIll never understand the men (especially incels) who endlessly chase after these illusory concepts like love, happiness and female validation. LOVE: Love doesnt exist, not in the cultural sense, where its this deep meaningful thing, its just a series of chemical reactions used to...incels.is said:True, at most their as the OP, stated, retarded, primitive and instinct driven.But so are most cucks. So shit, different sides of the same coin here, the blackpill, is what will truly separate the wheat from the chaff.The more time I spend on this site, the more I start to realize one of the things I fear about the incel community, most of the men are a bunch of blue pillers that THINK they are black pilled, and they have likely went around blue pilling a bunch of young new comers, leading them down a cucked and illogical path, this shit is scary, its like were surrounded by sleeper agents, these guys are misleading young incels and they aren't even aware of what they are doingImagine if I had came to this site when I was 13 or something and its these idiots that I talked to often and heeded their advice, I'd likely have already killed myself or something, because the rule set these guys have set for their lives LEADS NOWHEREI once asked a user who said he'd refuse to pay for sex because he doesn't get validation, if he would pay for dates (to point out the obvious irony of paying to gamble rather than paying for a guarantee)His response was that he would not date eitherSO LETS GET THIS STRAIGHTYOU WON'T PAY A WHORE FOR SEXYOU WON'T TAKE AN AVERAGE WOMAN OUT ON A DATEYOU LITERALLY EXPECT WOMEN TO JUST WALK UP TO YOU AND FUCK YOU (because chad gets to do that)YET YOU AREN'T VOLCEL?Dude I feel like I'm being trolled on this site sometimes, there's no way people can be this stupid, there's just no way. These guys are worse than feminists when it comes to logic (in some cases) and that's a feat in of itself. They have all these weird mentalcel selfimposed restrictions that there is no way out of, you just have to remain a sexually starved virgin, these guys aren't operating on logic.A lot of these guys speak as though women are literally just supposed to fall out of the sky onto their cock, some of these give prove the entitlement meme feminists keep peddling around about incels, like they are larps doing it on purpose to spread a false narrative", "BlkPillPres said:Likely also mines, very few people want to point this out, everybody just seems to be tip toeing around it, and not pointing it out, and letting these comments pass on by like its normal[Hard To Swallow Edition] - Love & Happiness Dont Exist, Female Validation Is Not ValuableIll never understand the men (especially incels) who endlessly chase after these illusory concepts like love, happiness and female validation. LOVE: Love doesnt exist, not in the cultural sense, where its this deep meaningful thing, its just a series of chemical reactions used to...incels.is more time I spend on this site, the more I start to realize one of the things I fear about the incel community, most of the men are a bunch of blue pillers that THINK they are black pilled, and they have likely went around blue pilling a bunch of young new comers, leading them down a cucked and illogical path, this shit is scary, its like were surrounded by sleeper agents, these guys are misleading young incels and they aren't even aware of what they are doingImagine if I had came to this site when I was 13 or something and its these idiots that I talked to often and heeded their advice, I'd likely have already killed myself or something, because the rule set these guys have set for their lives LEADS NOWHEREI once asked a user who said he'd refuse to pay for sex because he doesn't get validation, if he would pay for dates (to point out the obvious irony of paying to gamble rather than paying for a guarantee)His response was that he would not date eitherSO LETS GET THIS STRAIGHTYOU WON'T PAY A WHORE FOR SEXYOU WON'T TAKE AN AVERAGE WOMAN OUT ON A DATEYOU LITERALLY EXPECT WOMEN TO JUST WALK UP TO YOU AND FUCK YOU (because chad gets to do that)YET YOU AREN'T VOLCEL?Dude I feel like I'm being trolled on this site sometimes, there's no way people can be this stupid, there's just no way. These guys are worse than feminists when it comes to logic (in some cases) and that's a feat in of itself. They have all these weird mentalcel selfimposed restrictions that there is no way out of, you just have to remain a sexually starved virgin, these guys aren't operating on logic.A lot of these guys speak as though women are literally just supposed to fall out of the sky onto their cock, some of these give prove the entitlement meme feminists keep peddling around about incels, like they are larps doing it on purpose to spread a false narrativeYou can go out on a date without spending money... The rest of your post I agree with.", "BlkPillPres said:This is something that needs to be addressed, I'm seeing a lot of blue pilled posts against paying for sex, and the most frustrating part isn't their refusal, its the blatant contradiction in their arguments and their mindset, that female validation means more to them than sex, while at the same time speaking about women like they are lower than dirt, its the stupidity that is angering, these idiots can't see the obvious contradiction in their words, let me get to the pointIts completely contradictory to both acknowledge that women are basically instinct driven and illogical, and yet somehow value whether or not they admire you or think highly of youAsk yourself, of what value is a woman's evaluation of you, when you SUPPOSEDLY do not value her as a personHow can you devalue women as an existence, speak of them as illogical, emotional, less intelligent, etc, while at the same time claiming that their evaluation of you is something that matters (do you see the obvious contradiction yet?)THAT WOULD BE LIKE ME SAYING I HAVE A BROKEN MIRROR, YET I TRUST ITS ABILITY TO GIVE ME AN ACCURATE REFLECTIONOne should only value the evaluation given by someone relative to how much they value the logical integrity of said person, in other words, if you truly believe everything the black pill says about women, then by valuing female validation, you are putting stake in the competency of a group of individuals, that you yourself deem as incompetent (OBVIOUS CONTRADICTION)That's a huge contradiction, it doesn't make any sense, I seriously believe most of the guys saying this are posturing and they don't really think badly of women. They are coping and just calling them bad names so they can trick themselves (using mental gymnastics) into thinking that they don't care about women, so they don't feel powerless and trappedThese guys still have a reverence for women which is why they value their validationI care for their admiration, I suppose you could say that I have an unconscious involuntarily reverence for them that I can't change. Just as you can't choose to feel sexually attracted to them.", "Read post, too low I.Q to understand.", "You can't honestly expect dudes who have been mocked their entire lives and crave ANY type of human validation (Male or female) to magically become completely indifferent to females.", "You're really hung up on this hooker thing aren't you? I think its fine if you want to pay some bitch to suck you off but its completely hypocritical to complain about females being whores when you are supporting their lifestyle. Either accept that you're bluepilled as fuck and continue throwing money at them or realize that the only reason they do this is because weak willed faggots let them get away with it", "EyesAreSoCold said:I care for their admiration, I suppose you could say that I have an unconscious involuntarily reverence for them that I can't change. Just as you can't choose to feel sexually attracted to them.False, comparing a biological sexual urge to a psychological want you were indoctrinated to chase after since birth as equal is completely false, your reverence for them IS NOT INVOLUNTARY, you are CHOOSING to do it, and YOU CAN SIMPLY STOPPlease don't conflate ones biological cravings and mental conditioning, its innate for men to WANT women, not innate for me to revere them, this mindset is something recent, the men of the past would laugh at how cucked men have become, we live in an age of female business owners and CEO's, would not even follow a female leader, your words contradict what we already know to be true, men respecting women and revering them IS NEW AGE BS, it was never like this, so don't speak like its just biology and you can't help yourself, how did the men of the past help themselves thenWe don't even have to go back to the past, how do the men in strict islamic countries help themselves, beating wives if they disrespect them, etc, do they have magic powers to resist those biological urges of reverence lol, like come on dude stop coping?tulasdanslos said:You can go out on a date without spending money... The rest of your post I agree with.I never claimed all dates require money, but if you are an incel, more likely than not it will, of course one could just go for a walk on the beach or some BS, but you're gonna have to eat at some point, and if you planned on getting lucky you'd have bought condoms, you'd try to ply her with alcohol to increase your chances, etcA date where no money has been spent, by an average guy, or especially an incel, is very likely not going to lead to sex", "we are simply a victim of our biology", "slaaneshcel said:You're really hung up on this hooker thing aren't you? I think its fine if you want to pay some bitch to suck you off but its completely hypocritical to complain about females being whores when you are supporting their lifestyle.Your entire post is a strawman, nobody actually complains about women JUST being whores (except moralfags, who are just operating on emotions not logic), all incels I know of (actual black pillers) complain about women being SELECTIVE WHORES (being whores for exclusively the top class of males)Here's the difference, you are a just an illogical moralfag, whilst my arguments about women revolve around logic, there is a collective detriment to the male populace if women are SELECTIVE WHORES, if women were EQUAL OPPORTUNITY WHORES nobody would hate whoredom because everybody would benefitIf someone released some virus that genetically altered women to have a male libido and male standards, do you think any man would be complaining about whoredom again, no, it would be a worldwide orgy, basically everybody would be getting laid, not the shit show we see todaySeems like you are being vague on purpose, what affects the sexual market negatively isn't women being whores, its women being whores for a small group of men and excluding the rest, because at the end of the day all women are whores, that pure virgin wife guys like you want is only that woman UP TO THAT POINT, after you guys fuck for the first time, that's it, she's going to be YOUR WHORE, no longer innocent and pure, no longer a virgin, women becoming whores is inevitable, the only variable that can be affected, is if said whoredom is being distributed in an equal manner or notAlso statistically women who are whores remain whores for quite a while, so what lifestyle is being supported, I'm gracing them with the ability to suck more incel cock, damn I sure am helping these women cheat the system. Don't act like paying some e-whore to flash her tits is the same as paying a woman to fuck you, paying e-whores is funding a woman's lifestyle, paying actual whores is making a woman earn an existence by pleasuring you directlyCome back when you actually have an argumentangrycurrycel said:we are simply a victim of our biologyPlease see my response to @tulasdanslosBlkPillPres said:False, comparing a biological sexual urge to a psychological want you were indoctrinated to chase after since birth as equal is completely false, your reverence for them IS NOT INVOLUNTARY, you are CHOOSING to do it, and YOU CAN SIMPLY STOPPlease don't conflate ones biological cravings and mental conditioning, its innate for men to WANT women, not innate for me to revere them, this mindset is something recent, the men of the past would laugh at how cucked men have become, we live in an age of female business owners and CEO's, would not even follow a female leader, your words contradict what we already know to be true, men respecting women and revering them IS NEW AGE BS, it was never like this, so don't speak like its just biology and you can't help yourself, how did the men of the past help themselves thenWe don't even have to go back to the past, how do the men in strict islamic countries help themselves, beating wives if they disrespect them, etc, do they have magic powers to resist those biological urges of reverance lol, like come on dude stop coping?", "Based outburst", "BlkPillPres said:Your entire post is a strawman, nobody actually complains about women JUST being whores, all incels complain about women being SELECTIVE WHORES (being whores for exclusively the top class of males)Here's the difference, you are a just an illogical moralfag, my arguments about women revolve around logic, there is a collective detriment to the male populace if women are SELECTIVE WHORES, if women were EQUAL OPPORTUNITY WHORES nobody would hate whoredomSeems like you are being vague on purpose, what affects the sexual market negatively isn't women being whores, its women being whores for a small group of men and excluding the rest, because at the end of the day all women are whores, that pure virgin wife guys like you want is only that woman UP TO THAT POINT, after you guys fuck for the first time, that's it, she's going to be YOUR WHORE, still a whore though.Also statistically women who are whores remain whores for quite a while, so what lifestyle is being supported, I'm gracing them with the ability to suck more incel cock, damn I sure am helping these women cheat the system. Don't act like paying some e-whore to flash her tits is the same as paying a woman to fuck you, paying e-whores is funding a woman's lifestlye, paying actual whores is making a woman earn an existence by pleasuring you directlyCome back when you actually have an argumentPlease see my response to @tulasdanslosYou are giving some bitch money for something she would give up for free if you were attractive. You are pathetically handing over your wallet and accepting your place. You are just like the bluepilled cucks that preach women's liberation you just try to put your own spin on it. There is a reason this isn't an issue in non cucked countries. Because the females are punished harshly and the sad supporters get the lashings too.", "The problem is that our rational mind is in conflict with our subconscious. Rationally, we think that women are lower than dirt, but subconsciously we crave to experience what Chad does.JFL if you think that cucking yourself by orbiting women will solve the problem.", "it's simple, every man hopes to find a chaste unicorn, and occassionally projects that image of a unicorn onto women they don't know very wellwhen the projection is successful, they are hurt by the woman's judgement, when it's not successful it's easy for them to hurl insults at her", "BlkPillPres said:False, comparing a biological sexual urge to a psychological want you were indoctinated to chase after since birth as equal is completely false, you reverence for them IS NOT INVOLUNTARY, you are CHOOSING to do it, and YOU CAN SIMPLY STOPWhy shouldn't it be biological? That sounds totally made up. It makes sense that we should enjoy to be liked by other people especially women whom we have to mate with.Please don't conflate ones biological cravings and mental conditioning, its innate for men to WANT women, not innate for me to revere them, this mindset is something recent, the men of the past would laugh at how cucked men have become, we live in an age of female business owners and CEO's, would not even follow a female leader, your words contradict what we already know to be true, men respecting women and revering them IS NEW AGE BS, it was never like this, so don't speak like its just biology and you can't help yourself, how did the men of the past help themselves thenWe don't even have to go back to the past, how do the men in strict islamic countries help themselves, beating wives if they disrespect them, etc, do they have magic powers to resist those biological urges of reverance lol, like come on dude stop coping?Yes I believe those men were just the same as us. Just because you have that desire doesn't mean you have to give in to it and worship women. You can be a faggot and still denounce homosexuality, and you can crave the love of women and still wish to have them subjugated because you think that is the right thing to do. How do Muslims fast during Ramadan? Do they have magic powers to resist the biological urge to eat?", "slaaneshcel said:You are giving some bitch money for something she would give up for free if you were attractive.The problem you guys have is that you still think of women as people, so you are still focused on who they are giving what to and how much easier it is for another person to get it, I don't care about those other people, I just care about getting what I want lolImagine there's fruit in a tall tree (well tall for you)A tall man can simply walk up to the tree and pick the fruitAn athletic yet short man (around your height) will climb up the tree and maneuver to reach and pick the fruitYou might be short and weak, so you'll have to go get tools, like a stool, a pole with a hook, or maybe buy a ladder to reach and pick the fruitEverybody wants that fruit, but not everybody is going to be equipped to get the fruit the same way, because there's criteria to be met to pick itSo you can do whats necessary to get the fruit based on your limitations, or you can waste your time endlessly complaining about the fact that you aren't tall enough to just pick the fruit or strong enough to scale the tree and pick itWhich seems more logical to you?slaaneshcel said:There is a reason this isn't an issue in non cucked countriesIronically its guys like you who just endlessly complain and never put any time or resources into moving to such countries, you are unwilling to sacrifice whatever freedoms you would lose as a tradeoff to have access to chaste women, whereas men like me see everything objective, everything is a deal, a bargain, and Islammaxxing actually is my Plan B, I am wealthmaxxing so I can move to a country with a cheap cost of living and cheap prostitution, but if I ever get tired of that life, my plan is to branch over into a religious strategy and move to a strict islamic state to look for a wifeSo I like how all guys like you ever do is talk, you are preaching to the choir, I already have plans revolving around the fact that certain places have more control over women, all guys like you ever do is whine and complain, sometimes I feel you do nothing on purpose just so that you can have something to complain aboutYou put forth a good point, ok, SO WHAT DO YOU PLAN ON DOING WITH THIS INFORMATIONOh wait, the same thing you always do, DO NOTHING AND COMPLAIN>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @EyesAreSoCold (I hate comment merging)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>EyesAreSoCold said:Why shouldn't it be biological?This isn't a matter of should or shouldn't, this is a matter of is or isn't, and you'll notice all heteosexual men universally crave and seek out sex, which means its biological, yet all heterosexual men DON'T crave and seek out female validation, so why would you think its biological, it differs from country to country, culture to culture, era to era, that's not how biology works.The fact that you said shouldn't rather than isn't is weird and makes it seem like you are coping, you are speaking about the subject as though we get to decide whether its true or not, as though if we decide in this argument that it should be biological, it will now be so. Or maybe english isn't your first language and I'm reading too much into your wordsEyesAreSoCold said:Yes I believe those men were just the same as us. Just because you have that desire doesn't mean you have to give in to it and worship women.You see its lines like this that make me feel I'm being trolled, because like I said to @GeneticDysfunction in this thread:BlkPillPres said:Dude I feel like I'm being trolled on this site sometimes, there's no way people can be this stupid, there's just no way. These guys are worse than feminists when it comes to logic (in some cases) and that's a feat in of itself.I value women's HOLESYou value women's OPINIONS OF YOUYou yourself said that you have a REVERENCE for womenEyesAreSoCold said:I care for their admiration, I suppose you could say that I have an unconscious involuntarily reverence for themPlease, please tell me you see the irony in you saying that paying women for sex is worshiping them, but REVERING THEM ISN'TI swear I feel like I'm dealing with idiots half the time on this site, you guys have to be doing this shit on purpose, why do you guys keep making these contradictory arguments, its so blatantly in your face, you have to have noticed it.EyesAreSoCold said:You can be a faggot and still denounce homosexuality, and you can crave the love of women and still wish to have them subjugated because you think that is the right thing to do. How do Muslims fast during Ramadan? Do they have magic powers to resist the biological urge to eat?I'm not doing anything based on it being right or wrong, I'm doing it based on objective reasons, not subjective reasons, whether its beneficial or detrimental, morality is subjective I care nothing for itYou are another one of those idiots who make the perfect slave for society, always striving to be better than others to attain some subjective standard of goodness, you clearly don't think for yourself, and ironically its guys like you that will claim you are black pilled", "BlkPillPres said:I value women's HOLESYou value women's OPINIONS OF YOU to expand...", "BlkPillPres said:This isn't a matter of should or shouldn't, this is a matter of is or isn't, and you'll notice all heteosexual men universally crave and seek out sex, which means its biological, yet all heterosexual men DON'T crave and seek out female validation, so why would you think its biological, it differs from country to country, culture to culture, era to era, that's not how biology works.The fact that you said shouldn't rather than isn't is weird and makes it seem like you are coping, you are speaking about the subject as though we get to decide whether its true or not, as though if we decide in this argument that it should be biological, it will now be so. Or maybe english isn't your first language and I'm reading too much into your wordsYou see its lines like this that make me feel I'm being trolled, because like I said to @GeneticDysfunction in this thread:I value women's HOLESYou value women's OPINIONS OF YOUYou yourself said that you have a REVERENCE for womenPlease, please tell me you see the irony in you saying that paying women for sex is worshiping them, but REVERING THEM ISN'TI swear I feel like I'm dealing with idiots half the time on this site, you guys have to be doing this shit on purpose, why do you guys keep making these contradictory arguments, its so blatantly in your face, you have to have noticed it.I'm not doing anything based on it being right or wrong, I'm doing it based on objective reasons, not subjective reasons, whether its beneficial or detrimental, morality is subjective I care nothing for itYou are another one of those idiots who make the perfect slave for society, always striving to be better than others to attain some subjective standard of goodness, you clearly don't think for yourself, and ironically its guys like you that will claim you are black pilled to expand...I still don't buy that seeking their validation isn't biological. Males fight amongst each other and do other things to impress women to win their validation and so it is for all animals. I value both their holes and some of their opinions of me involuntarily.", "BlkPillPres said:Its completely contradictory to both acknowledge that women are basically instinct driven and illogical, and yet somehow value whether or not they admire you or think highly of youpractically everyone in this planet worships females. even if you, yourself, don't feel the slightest positive thing about them, it is objectively a huge amount of validation if a creature which everyone else worships, a creature with an infinite amount of choices and opportunities, chooses to worship/orbit/(whatever else you want to call it) you.", "knajjd said:practically everyone in this planet worships females. even if you1. Speak for yourself, you can't tell me who I worship, what kind of ridiculous nonsense is that2. This is where we have to get specific, because a lot of people like to make vague BS semantic argumentsFor example, you could be saying worship, and your concept of worship, also includes desire, so just by me desiring women sexually you would classify that as worship by default. Even if I don't revere them at all and see them as objects to be acquired for use, it would still be worship under such a definition.So lets be specificWHAT DO YOU MEAN BY WORSHIP?You'll notice that the moment you answer this question, your entire argument that I also worship females will fall apart, because you will;A. Reveal that you have broad all encompassing criteria for worship, which makes your argument INHERENTLY DISINGENUOUSORB. Reveal that I don't meet your criteria of worship so you'll have to retract the statement", "BlkPillPres said:1. Speak for yourself, you can't tell me who I worship, what kind of ridiculous nonsense is thatthis is why i've said PRACTICALLY the entire planet, not the entire planet.BlkPillPres said:For example, you could be saying worship, and your concept of worship, also includes desire, so just by me desiring women sexually you would classify that as worship by default. Even if I don't revere them at all and see them as objects to be acquired for use, it would still be worship under such a definition.it doesn't matter what you believe in your mind. the fact is that you regularly pay money to females to merely spread their legs and lay in bed for half an hour, and you also try very, very hard to get other incels here to also engage in this cuckoldry, probably trying to convince yourself that you're not a worshipper. i don't see any difference between someone like you and a person who pays for premium snapchats of online females, really. it's the same sort of worship in my mind. you could just fuck your hand to free porn.", "knajjd said:it doesn't matter what you believe in your mindRight back at you lolknajjd said:The fact is that you regularly pay money to females to merely spread their legs and lay in bed for half an hourI've actually only done it once, wish I could do it regularly, i'll have to wealthmax and move to a cheap country first before things get that great for meknajjd said:you also try very, very hard to get other incels here to also do so, probably to try to convince yourself that you're not a worshipper.1. I'm doing it for the same reason guys on here are spreading nofap, they believe it will help make mens lives more enjoyable, my perspective just happens to be accurate unlike nofap which ironically just sexually starves men who will likely never get laidI'm not completely against nofap, I'm against nofap without a cause, for example before I start back escortcelling again I plan to do nofap for a few months for reset purposes so I can get more enjoyment out of it, but nofappers tell men on this site to sexually starve themselves with no end in sight for no goal or purpose whatsoever, there's no logic to it2. I don't think of myself as a worshipper so there's no reason to try and convince myself that I'm not one, also look at how disingenuously you are arguing, you don't see the irony in saying this while purposefully avoiding answering my question?WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY WORSHIP?You are telling me I'm trying to convince myself I'm not a worshipper but without your criteria I can't even properly assess that argument because I don't know what you think I'm trying to convince myself I'm not (I doubt you can even follow me right now lol)knajjd said:i don't see any difference between someone like you and a person who pays for premium snapchats of online females, really. it's the same sort of worship in my mind. you could just fuck your hand to free porn.If you can't see the difference, its because you are blinded by ego and emotionsThat's like saying you can't see the difference between someone who pays to watch roller coaster rides, and someone who pays to actually ride the rides, this is common sense, a child can understand the difference, clearly your bias is blinding you and making you dishonest1. JFL you keep using the word worship in weird ways, because like I said, you obviously have some personal definition based on criteria YOU'VE YET TO REVEAL, all I can do till I understand what you mean by worship is disagree and assert I am not worshiping women2. I had this friend from school who I told years ago that I don't get why men date, and that porn is satisfying enough, and I'll never feel the need to chase after sex, I had only been masturbating for about 1 year and a few months at that point, the thing you learn with the passage of time is that it gets olds, the orgasms are still great but you want to experience more, the more and more you see other men enjoying fucking women, the more you want to actually experience it for yourself rather than watch, so ironically porn is the reason I want to escortcel, I've seen too much enjoyable shit to not want to do it myself, after years and years of fapping, its no longer enoughAlso after your first fuck there's no going back, you can still fap to porn, but there's no going back to strictly porn, just like after years of fapping to HD videos I can't fap to black and white manga porn, its a complete relative downgrade", "BlkPillPres said:Right back at you lolI've actually only done it once, wish I could do it regularly, i'll have to wealthmax and move to a cheap country first before things get that great for me1. I'm doing it for the same reason guys on here are spreading nofap, they believe it will help make mens lives more enjoyable, my perspective just happens to be accurate unlike nofap which ironically just sexually starves men who will likely never get laidI'm not completely against nofap, I'm against nofap without a cause, for example before I start back escortcelling again I plan to do nofap for a few months for reset purposes so I can get more enjoyment out of it, but nofappers tell men on this site to sexually starve themselves with no end in sight for no goal or purpose whatsoever, there's no logic to it2. I don't think of myself as a worshipper so there's no reason to try and convince myself that I'm not one, also look at how disingenuously you are arguing, you don't see the irony in saying this while purposefully avoiding answering my question?WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY WORSHIP?You are telling me I'm trying to convince myself I'm not a worshipper but without your criteria I can't even properly assess that argument because I don't know what you think I'm trying to convince myself I'm not (I doubt you can even follow me right now lol)If you can't see the difference, its because you are blinded by ego and emotionsThat's like saying you can't see the difference between someone who pays to watch roller coaster rides, and someone who pays to actually ride the rides, this is common sense, a child can understand the difference, clearly your bias is blinding you and making you dishonest1. JFL you keep using the word worship in weird ways, because like I said, you obviously have some personal definition based on criteria YOU'VE YET TO REVEAL, all I can do till I understand what you mean by worship is disagree and assert I am not worshiping women2. I had this friend from school who I told years ago that I don't get why men date, and that porn is satisfying enough, and I'll never feel the need to chase after sex, I had only been masturbating for about 1 year and a few months at that point, the thing you learn with the passage of time is that it gets olds, the orgasms are still great but you want to experience more, the more and more you see other men enjoying fucking women, the more you want to actually experience it for yourself rather than watch, so ironically porn is the reason I want to escortcel, I've seen too much enjoyable shit to not want to do it myself, after years and years of fapping, its no longer enoughAlso after your first fuck there's no going back, you can still fap to porn, but there's no going back to strictly porn, just like after years of fapping to HD videos I can't fap to black and white manga porn, its a complete relative downgradei think that anyone who actively tries to get validation and/or sex from females is a female worshipper. it is very broad, sure, but it makes sense. a blackpilled person should be able to understand that they have no actual chance, that it is a weakness to fight against, that females have zero value to speak of, and that it is only their hormones controlling them to seek females and should at the very least try to fight against it.these two cannot be compared. avoiding masturbation doesn't involve you giving your money to a female simply because it has a vagina, which would be an absolutely repulsive idea for any self-respecting incel, and given enough time makes most grow disinterested in sex altogether, hence the flatline stuff. really, aren't you at all disgusted by yourself, making all these threads telling these people to give their hard earned money to prostitutes, of all things? incels should try to SUPPRESS these base urges however they can, not give into them and make whores even richer like you tell them to.exactly; there is no such thing as contentness where humans are concerned. fuck enough whores and you will stop feeling anything about paying for sex as well. the next thing you know, you're craving proper validation and are full-on orbiting so that you can get a girlfriend/free sex. there's no end to this sort of stuff. you have to pull it out by the roots, try to resist it completely, as hard it may sound. until then, you're a mindless drone, nothing more than a vessel for the selfish gene.", "knajjd said:i think that anyone who actively tries to get validation and/or sex from females is a female worshipper.So exactly like I said:BlkPillPres said:You'll notice that the moment you answer this question, your entire argument that I also worship females will fall apart, because you will;A. Reveal that you have broad all encompassing criteria for worship, which makes your argument INHERENTLY DISINGENUOUSDid you really have to beat around the bush to get to this point, you and I both knew you were being disingenuous Now apply that logic universally and you'll see how it doesn't make any senseBy your logic anyone who actively tries to get work experience and/or employment worships capitalismIts a ridiculously broad and pointless scope for a definition, it defeats the purpose of a term being definedYou have to realize how disingenuous your definition is, you are setting up the definitions ahead of time so that you are right no matter what and then making the argument, that's extremely fallaciousThat would be like me saying watching any porn is gay, and under my definition of gay, it includes seeing any man's erect penis. By default even straight porn is now gay, I'm setting up the definition ahead of time to make it that so no matter what anyone says I'm rightYour entire argument was BS built up upon a fallacious foundation from the startknajjd said:it is only their hormones controlling them to seek females and should at the very least try to fight against it1. Fight against it to what end?Please refer back to my argument against nofap, I'm not against nofap on the whole, I'm against the illogical purposeless kind of nofap that a lot of users peddle on this site, where you sexually starve yourself for no reason to achive placebo goals of increased energy and mental clarity.So tell me what is the end result of fighting against it, how does it benefit me, what is the purpose/goal, are you seriously telling me you just do things for the sake of doing them?2. Its just hormones making you do everything, why don't you stop eating good tasting foods and only eat based on nutrition, because you should just fight the urge to eat good tasting foods for no reason at all, since its just your body controlling you, you should resist its impulses", "BlkPillPres said:False, comparing a biological sexual urge to a psychological want you were indoctrinated to chase after since birth as equal is completely false, your reverence for them IS NOT INVOLUNTARY, you are CHOOSING to do it, and YOU CAN SIMPLY STOPPlease don't conflate ones biological cravings and mental conditioning, its innate for men to WANT women, not innate for me to revere them, this mindset is something recent, the men of the past would laugh at how cucked men have become, we live in an age of female business owners and CEO's, would not even follow a female leader, your words contradict what we already know to be true, men respecting women and revering them IS NEW AGE BS, it was never like this, so don't speak like its just biology and you can't help yourself, how did the men of the past help themselves thenWe don't even have to go back to the past, how do the men in strict islamic countries help themselves, beating wives if they disrespect them, etc, do they have magic powers to resist those biological urges of reverence lol, like come on dude stop coping?I never claimed all dates require money, but if you are an incel, more likely than not it will, of course one could just go for a walk on the beach or some BS, but you're gonna have to eat at some point, and if you planned on getting lucky you'd have bought condoms, you'd try to ply her with alcohol to increase your chances, etcA date where no money has been spent, by an average guy, or especially an incel, is very likely not going to lead to sexyou just profiled how normies get sex (drugs)", "satoshisacuck said:you just profiled how normies get sex (drugs)I've always seen alcohol as just a tool to get what you want, you lower the inhibitions of others so you can more easily manipulate them, I don't drink though, because I don't see any point of drinking outside of that manipulation", "There is no contradiction. Humans are wired to crave approval of others, not only women. Those who say they hate females, cucks etc. do this because they see how unfair they're to them - the rational part of the brain thinks that. At the same time there's that irrational craving for approval of others, which is present in (almost) every human being. It's just instinct and you can't stop it, just like you can't stop your sex drive. When incel see how IT user post something derisive about incels he feel enraged, not because he thinks highly of him or because he thinks he's right, but because of that instinctive craving for approval of others. It's like skydiving. You will feel fear even if you 100% convinced you would not crash. If you don't feel this craving you're having mental disorder just like someone who don't feel pain from anything is having illness. Or maybe you're just in denial.Now on prostitution. Here's my definition of female worship: Female worshipTransfer of something to female simply because she's femaleA cuck who constantly praising females, but not males for their work is female worshiper. He giving her praise simply because she's female, not because she's actually good worker.A cuck who pays to camwhore is female worshiper because he gives money to female because she's female.Prostitution is exactly the same. You give money to her and in few years she's driving sportcar and living in mansion simply because she's female, while you're at best without money you've given to her. There's no difference between camwhore cuck and you because pleasure you both get from the service is subjective. The camwhore cuck can easily feel more pleasure from jacking off to vid (while, probably, paying less) than you from fucking a whore. In the end you're both the same because both of you fund lavish, carefree lifestyle of female simply because she's female.", "Incels insulting foids whilst craving validation is really just a result of frustration and bitterness due to being rejected and neglected by the foids. I can understand why incels would want to have a loving and wholesome relationship with a foid instead or paying for a whore, despite how improbable obtaining such a relationship may be. Human beings in general crave validation and approval as it builds up self-esteem and results in a healthy mental state. When a human is denied validation and approval (whether it's from his family, his peers or the opposite gender) they tend to become mentally fucked and ultimately end up with low self-esteem, depression and other mental issues: or in other words they become disfunctional human beings. For example, you can see this happening when a person has no friends. They become really fucked up due to isolation and in result become disfunctional, depressed, anxious, socially inept, etc. What some of these incels want is long-term reinforcement of validation and approval from a foid as they're hardwired to want to feel accepted and loved. The lack of any validation and attention gradually eats away at the incel's mind as he feels like he's unworthy of being desired, thus resulting in low self-esteem. This explains why chads are so confident, outgoing and competent, its a result of being validated due to their looks. To some, the idea of incels giving their money to a whore seems unappealing to them because they're not actually being validated but rather paying money to momentarily satisfy their sexual urge. After this urge is satisfied, they return back to being depressed and disfunctional because they're still being neglected of validation and approval and therefore don't feel worthy. It's probably a bigger kick in the stomach seeing they have to pay for a whore to give them any sort of attention, which highlights how truly unworthy they are. It's not a coincidence that we see stories from escortcels still feeling depressed. So in short, it's normal for incels to want to be validated because it's just hardwired in us. Escortcelling works for some incels because they're getting their urges satisfied, but doesn't work for others because they're still lonely. Personally, I wouldn't give my money to some whore bc that's some cuck shit, bitch doesn't deserve my money for being a whore Ngl tbh idk lmao", "TheReaper said:hate is a powerful bond.when I see incels insulting women in every post I assume there's still a strong link between them and the opposite sex.(you don't care or feel emotions about something you deem irrelevant).someone who really belives in the blackpill should be completly indifferent towards women.Hate is good. Imagine if only one company made cars but refused to sell you a car. You can hate the car company while still wanting to drive their cars. You hate the company's attitude, not the product itself. Just like how we hate most roastie's attitudes, but we like their bodies. We're mad because we want them to be nicer and start giving us pussy. If we became indifferent to pussy then we'd either be gay or asexual, that's not blackpilled.", "Robtical said:Hate is good. Imagine if only one company made cars but refused to sell you a car. You can hate the car company while still wanting to drive their cars. You hate the company's attitude, not the product itself.I don't get why you are comparing the physiological need for sex to driving a car.anyway I don't need to hate the car company because I can find alternatives to owning a car.talking about women you don't need to hate them because you can simply bypass the valdation process by paying to fuck them.Robtical said:Just like how we hate most roastie's attitudes, but we like their bodiesif the only thing you like about females is thier body you could solve all your problems by buying a sex doll.Robtical said:We're mad because we want them to be nicer and start giving us pussy. If we became indifferent to pussy then we'd either be gay or asexual, that's not blackpilled.the feeling of hate is reserved for people you consider at your same level or above.contempt and disdain are better words for describing a negative feeling towards something you deem inferior.I don't hate women because their unworthy of being hated.also jfl at we want them to be nicer,that's exactly the point OP was addressing.", "TheReaper said:talking about women you don't need to hate them because you can simply bypass the valdation process by paying to fuck them.They're way too overpriced. They should only cost 20 dollars a nut, not hundreds.TheReaper said:if the only thing you like about females is thier body you could solve all your problems by buying a sex doll.Sex dolls aren't realistic enough yet, but when real looking ones come out most women will lose their betabuxxers.TheReaper said:the feeling of hate is reserved for people you consider at your same level or above.contempt and disdain are better words for describing a negative feeling towards something you deem inferior.That's not always true. I hate cops, but I don't think they're above me, same with foids. I typically hate things I deem inferior to myself, and I'm angry they have unearned power which must be taken away from them.TheReaper said:I don't hate women because their unworthy of being hated.I hate foids that are hypergamous and ride the cock carousel, while expecting to get married to a cuck in their 30's. They are the reason most men are incels, because they keep trying to get away with shit like that.", "I hate foids because they have NEVER GAVE me validation, not because they are not giving me validation in the present.I don't seek their validation anymore.Is this making me a volcel? No. Their disgusting nature traumatised me from my past experiences.However, sorry if I missed your point.", "TheReaper said:when", "BlkPillPres said:So exactly like I said:Did you really have to beat around the bush to get to this point, you and I both knew you were being disingenuous Now apply that logic universally and you'll see how it doesn't make any senseBy your logic anyone who actively tries to get work experience and/or employment worships capitalismIts a ridiculously broad and pointless scope for a definition, it defeats the purpose of a term being definedYou have to realize how disingenuous your definition is, you are setting up the definitions ahead of time so that you are right no matter what and then making the argument, that's extremely fallaciousThat would be like me saying watching any porn is gay, and under my definition of gay, it includes seeing any man's erect penis. By default even straight porn is now gay, I'm setting up the definition ahead of time to make it that so no matter what anyone says I'm rightYour entire argument was BS built up upon a fallacious foundation from the start1. Fight against it to what end?Please refer back to my argument against nofap, I'm not against nofap on the whole, I'm against the illogical purposeless kind of nofap that a lot of users peddle on this site, where you sexually starve yourself for no reason to achive placebo goals of increased energy and mental clarity.So tell me what is the end result of fighting against it, how does it benefit me, what is the purpose/goal, are you seriously telling me you just do things for the sake of doing them?2. Its just hormones making you do everything, why don't you stop eating good tasting foods and only eat based on nutrition, because you should just fight the urge to eat good tasting foods for no reason at all, since its just your body controlling you, you should resist its impulseswhat the fuck are you talking about by setting up the definitions ahead of time? there's no objective definition of these concepts, so of course mine could differ with yours. this is how i think of it: actively seeking validation from females is the definition of orbiting, which is worship. if you're attractive, they initiate with you, subtly or otherwise. doing this yourself is moronic and will lead nowhere. anyone blackpilled should understand this. that is why i think it makes sense.how would it not be beneficial to have weaker sexual urges, how would it not be beneficial to seek this goal? it is a huge weakness, the reason females can manipulate everyone without any effort. everyone should recognise it as such, trying their very hardest not to give into it. if you try not to, these urges certainly do get weaker and weaker in my experience.this food analogy makes no sense given the subject and since it's not really a weakness other people can count on exploiting in any way. but, sure, the less your lizard brain controls you, the better.", "knajjd said:what the fuck are you talking about by setting up the definitions ahead of time? there's no objective definition of these conceptsYes there is, you could literally google worship, there are dictionary definitionsOxford Languages | The Home of Language DataExplore Oxford Languages, the home of world-renowned language data.en.oxforddictionaries.comThe feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity.The guys who I am saying actually worship women (because they value their validation) are saying stuff like:EyesAreSoCold said:I care for their admiration, I suppose you could say that I have an unconscious involuntarily reverence for themThere are objective definitions for these concepts, you just don't want to acknowledge them due to personal bias, you are literally pretending like FUCKING COMMON WORDS AREN'T DEFINED ALREADY.knajjd said:so of course mine could differ with yours.You do realize that if we go with this logic, then nobody is right or wrong about anything, so I can also assert equally as much that I am not worshiping, just as you can equally assert that I am, which makes arguing pointless, and defeats the purpose of any debate or argument.However the difference is I'm going by a dictionary definition and you are going by a personal definition (WHICH IS PRONE TO PERSONAL BIAS)knajjd said:these urges certainly do get weaker and weaker in my experience.Not everybody is low T like you knajjd, why else do you think you look like a pretty boy fairy, you didn't have the genetics for higher levels of testosterone and that affected your growth and gave you neotenous features, that also likely affected your sex drive too", "You want to have unpaid sex but you forget that to achieve unpaid sex one must pay for many things that do not even guarantee it at the end of the day.", "Eskimocel said:You want to have unpaid sex but you forget that to achieve unpaid sex one must pay for many things that do not even guarantee it at the end of the day.Who is this directed towards?", "BlkPillPres said:Who is this directed towards?Nobody. It is just a general statement. Here let me phrase it better:Eskimocel said:People want to have unpaid sex but people forget that to achieve unpaid sex one must pay for many things that do not even guarantee it at the end of the day.You will have to take her out on many dates, pay for dinner, film, public attractions, ride home etcUnless you are Chad you just wont be able to get free sex.", "BlkPillPres said:The guys who I am saying actually worship women (because they value their validation) are saying stuff like:I might unwillingly feel reverence for them but there is no expression of it that could cause damage. It is harmless unlike in your case where your submission to your urges results in actual worship as you pay women lots of money and even encourages others to do the same.", "scortcel is a good cope but if we are here is because sex without pay is better. I think only a fallen normie that already has enjoyed teen sex, having gf, is done with scorts, while a virgin man never would fulfill that empty with a prostitute. I'm not saying that OP is a fallen normie , I think he is coping too hard with that and try to carry another men with him to reinforce his cope.", "littlemanhikicel said:while a virgin man never would fulfill that empty with a prostitute.Dude I know this is going to be hard for you to understand, because I'm starting to realize a lot of the users on this site are very egotistical and self absorbed, not everybody is obsessed with their ego, not everybody cares about being desired, some people literally just want something for what it is, they don't care that they earned it or deserved it, they just enjoy that thing for what it isYou likely go out everyday and buy meat foods to eat, a guy who is a hunter and takes pride in that, might only eat the animals that he kills, because his pride is staked in that task, whereas you just see a meal as a meal. The irony is you all think the same way I do, you just apply that logic to different aspects of your life, and its been so normalized to you, that you don't realize itIf you applied the same pride and ego you have for sex, towards food, you'd see how ridiculous it is, imagine a guy who won't eat anything that he didn't kill and/or prepare himself in this day and age when you can walk into a fast food place and get a meal in 15 minutes, that guy seems as deluded to you, as guys like you seem to melittlemanhikicel said:I think he is coping too hard with that and try to carry another men with him to reinforce his cope.Did all the escortcels I'd spoken to that led me to doing it try to carry me with them so they could reinforce their cope, or were they just giving a fellow man who shared the same plight as them, advice and an alternative path to satisfaction, I think its you guys who are coping, and unwilling to let go of your egoEyesAreSoCold said:I might unwillingly feel reverence for them but there is no expression of it that could cause damage. It is harmlessSpreading the mindset that men should revere women women is harmless, you are spreading a cucked mindset, and you don't see the contradiction in revering women and yet speaking ill of them, you are basically insulting yourself, because if you revere a being with all those negative qualities what does that say about youEyesAreSoCold said:unlike in your case where your submission to your urges results in actual worshipPlease cite a definition of worship here in your next response, you know what you're saying here is complete BS, you are literally just stringing words together veiled with your own personal definitions, nothing I do matches the ACTUAL DEFINITION of worship, you are just arbitrarily creating your own definition in your head and using it like its a factOxford Languages | The Home of Language DataExplore Oxford Languages, the home of world-renowned language data.en.oxforddictionaries.comWorship - The feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity.YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE HERE THAT HAS REVERENCE FOR AND/OR ADORATION FOR WOMENStop creating BS definitions in your head, your entire argument is fallaciousEyesAreSoCold said:as you pay women lots of money1. Cope, I've only had sex once and it was relatively cheap, cost as much as a dinner date ironically, so guys like you who would ironically spend that amount and more (on multiple dates) TO GAMBLE FOR SEX, I just paid that upfront (a single time) and got sex. No mind games, no trial and error, no chances, A GUARANTEE.2. The place I plan on moving to, you can get a half hour for around $30 US, you guys just like the cope of its too expensive so you can give yourself a reason not to try it, truth is every guy on this site could afford it, ironically some of these guys are going to buy all the consoles that come out, pre-order games, buy expansion packs, buy skins to decorate their character, etc all the while continuing to complain about being a virgin, you guys don't get ironyEyesAreSoCold said:and even encourages others to do the same.I'm just spreading a strategy that is logical and feasible for men to pursue, you guys are telling men to remain sexually starved permavirgins till their virgin waifu magically falls out of the sky onto their cock", "Most incels don't truly hate women, devaluation is just a coping mechanism. Most are just bitter about not being able to illicit a positive biological response in women. We aren't able to control what we desire.", "_incelinside said:Most incels don't truly hate women, devaluation is just a coping mechanism. Most are just bitter about not being able to illicit a positive biological response in women.True, that was also one of my pointsBlkPillPres said:I seriously believe most of the guys saying this are posturing and they don't really think badly of women. They are coping and just calling them bad names so they can trick themselves (using mental gymnastics) into thinking that they don't care about women, so they don't feel powerless and trappedThese guys still have a reverence for women which is why they value their validationThese guys are just posturing and really and truly they worship women and basically think of them as goddesses, which makes them calling themselves black pilled very ironic_incelinside said:We aren't able to control what we desire.You can't control WHAT you desire, but you can control HOW you desire itThese guys desire women in a way that requires mutual desire and admirationI and men like myself desire women in a way that requires no mutually reciprocation", "You still coping. You act like you are tough deceiving yourself ignoring been not enough in foids eyes and pretending been careless about the free stuff that they bring for free to another men.", "BlkPillPres said:Its completely contradictory to both acknowledge that women are basically instinct driven and illogical, and yet somehow value whether or not they admire you or think highly of youDogs/Cats are instinct driven and illogical, but you still feel happy when they greet you, are excited to see you, wag their tail/purr, etc.", "Detro said:Dogs/Cats are instinct driven and illogical, but you still feel happy when they greet you, are excited to see you, wag their tail/purr, etc.I actually don't feel happy by their meer greeting, of course your dog running around and playing with you is fun, because the act of playing is fun, but I'm not the kind of person that deludes themselves into thinking that there is something deeper to a dog having affection for you, you feed them and care for them so they like you, I don't think of it as something special", "High IQ thread", "OP is correct. It's a contradiction." ]
Blackpill[Hard To Swallow Edition] - Looksmaxxing As A Black Piller Is Ironic Since You Are Essentially Emulating That Which You Hate (Women)
[ "I've always found men looksmaxxing to be very ironic, because one of the things we often complain about is the female behaviour and mindset, and looksmaxxing is men essentially emulating thatI'm not saying men shouldn't trying to look good, but men are seriously taking this shit to feminine levels, deeply cosmetic, men knowing which colour clothing brings out their eyes and what hair style pairs well with what look, etc is feminine as fuck, men should not be focusing on such trivial shallow and pointless things, were becoming like women, which makes our criticism of them ever more ironic. At the current rate things are going, the next generation of men will begin trying to normalize men wearing makeup, then we'll be lying just as much as themIronically in our attempts to keep up with women and meet their standards, we are basically becoming them in the process, were becoming the bitchesMen beautifying themselves like bitches competing for looks points trying to 1up each other like women typically do is very pathetic and emasculating when you think about it, next thing you know guys are gonna be starting threads about what type of jeans makes their butt look goodThis is why I never took part in any of this looksmax nonsense, I just dressed regularly and practiced basic hygiene, all the other stuff just felt ironic and patheticThe worst part about it, is that even after all that, after betraying yourself and doing all that emasculating shit, you still aren't even guaranteed sex, after all that time and effort you can still be rejected, and if you are the average incel, you likely will be rejected, as many men's base looks mog your looksmaxxed self, its an endless uphill battleLooksmaxxing is a waste of time, money and dignity lol", "So instead of actually putting in your best effort to try and escape Inceldom, just give up because, lol women looksmaxx tooIncredible argument, but I guess a sex having fakecel wouldn't care much about improving their looks especially when they aren't interested in a real relationship.", "NVM Looksmaxxers arent a complete waste, they weed out the trucels from fakcels like fattallcels who become lean chadlite.", "gigacel123 said:Extreme above the average intelligence post. looksmaxxing is not worth it.Depending on how bad you look yeah. If you're a truecel tier 1-3/10 then looksmaxxing won't do you much good. If you're 4-5/10 then it might allow you to escortcel.", "StoicNihilist said:Depending on how bad you look yeah. If you're a truecel tier 1-3/10 then looksmaxxing won't do you much good. If you're 4-5/10 then it might allow you to escortcel.Edited my post. I still think looksmaxxing is a waste if you know you are trucel and hopeless. I guess if you really wanted an escort go for it", "gigacel123 said:Edited my post. I still think looksmaxxing is a waste if you know you are trucel and hopeless. I guess if you really wanted an escort go for itI agree that fatcel is volcel. Take a look at Boogie. You can tell beneath all that fat he has a decent bone structure. He's normie tier.", "I've said this multiple times. The ultimate black pill is that even if you ascend you will never be chad. In other words, your girl will most likely monkey branch from you eventually when the opportunity is right. That, and the black pill never leaves you. It's everywhere.", "BrendioEEE said:So instead of actually putting in your best effort to try and escape Inceldom, just give up because, lol women looksmaxx tooEscape inceldom into what?cuckdom?90% of the guys that ascend are just going to get cucked and/or cheated on anyways, whats the point of all that wasted time and effortAscension is a waste of time, its better to descendBrendioEEE said:Incredible argument, but I guess a sex having fakecel wouldn't care much about improving their looks especially when they aren't interested in a real relationship.I can have sex because I'm objective and I haven't placed illogical emotionally based egotistical mentalcel restrictions on myself, if you are unwilling to pay for sex because you want to feel wanted, then that's your fault for valuing things of subjective worth rather than things of objective worth, its not my fault you are an idiot lolLike I keep saying guys like you are InLon (Involuntarily Lonely) not InCel (Involuntarily Celibate), you are obsessed more with being in a relationship than actually getting sex, that's a mindset fit for being a cuck that's alright with his girl having a little fun as long as he gets some every now and thenYou might very well be the kind of guy I am talking about above, who ascends into cuckdom, that isn't an upgrade, like many users have said beforeBetter incel than cuckIlIlllllIlIl said:I've said this multiple times. The ultimate black pill is that even if you ascend you will never be chad. In other words, your girl will most likely monkey branch from you eventually when the opportunity is right. That, and the black pill never leaves you. It's everywhere.This, basically the same thing I just told @BrendioEEEI've made threads about how pointless ascension is:For Ascension Copers: Getting A GF Is The Easy Part (Its Better To Descend)My version of ascension, I call it descension, since I hated the term ascension for what it is used for (chasing a cope), and I wanted my concept of success after an incel life to be in opposition of that. Descension is the exact opposite of ascension, you could say its like the MGTOW...incels.isAscension Is Essentially Gambling To Win A Chance To Gamble In Other More Difficult GamesIll never get ascenders, they dont seem to understand how illogical their choices are, and that they are wasting all of their time and effort on a fruitless endeavor. APPROACHING FAILURE >Face constant rejections from multiple women, most even below your league >Rejection eats away at your...incels.is", "I think people should be healthmaxxing, that means not being fat.", "Interesting thread.I agree that the whole looksmaxing concept is far from being something of male essence but thing is, we're unfortunately living in a time where your only value as a man (sexually and even socially-wise) pertains more tham ever around how good-looking you are. Therefore, if you don't reach a certain threshold when it comes the physical appearance, you will simply be doomed. We're simply not the 1950's anymore.I don't think it's right for society to shame men who are willing to go full-escortcelling mode but at the same time, society shouldn't shame or ridicule men who wants to try to reach their full-potential by going to the looksmaxing route.", "satoshisacuck said:I think people should be healthmaxxing, that means not being fat.That I'd agree with, one should focus on improvements THAT ACTUALLY BENEFIT YOUR EXISTENCE, if only that was the primary focus of looksmaxxing, maybe I'd be a part of it, I do plan on healthmaxxing when I move out from my parents house, I want to try this carnivore diet thing and see if it goes anywhere", "BlkPillPres said:This, basically the same thing I just told @BrendioEEEI've made threads about how pointless ascension is:For Ascension Copers: Getting A GF Is The Easy Part (Its Better To Descend)My version of ascension, I call it descension, since I hated the term ascension for what it is used for (chasing a cope), and I wanted my concept of success after an incel life to be in opposition of that. Descension is the exact opposite of ascension, you could say its like the MGTOW...incels.isAscension Is Essentially Gambling To Win A Chance To Gamble In Other More Difficult GamesIll never get ascenders, they dont seem to understand how illogical their choices are, and that they are wasting all of their time and effort on a fruitless endeavor. APPROACHING FAILURE >Face constant rejections from multiple women, most even below your league >Rejection eats away at your...incels.isHigh IQ. That's the price of taking the black pill. You are succumbing to nihilistic thinking. Your best bet is to find a good cope that makes you happy and not worry about ascending. That is the best advice you can give anyone here.", "IlIlllllIlIl said:High IQ. That's the price of taking the black pill. You are succumbing to nihilistic thinking. Your best bet is to find a good cope that makes you happy and not worry about ascending. That is the best advice you can give anyone here.You just pointed out something obvious that I fail to mention in my threads against all these blue pilled arguments I see, the key trait all of these users are missing is NIHILISM, none of these guys are truly nihilistic yet, that's why they are coping like this, thats why they can't be indifferentIf you aren't a nihilist, then you haven't fully accepted the black pill", "BlkPillPres said:Escape inceldom into what?cuckdom?90% of the guys that ascend are just going to get cucked and/or cheated on anyways, whats the point of all that wasted time and effortAscension is a waste of time, its better to descendWe've gone through this so many times already. You only get cucked if you don't ascend with a virgin, you can cope and say virgins don't exist or love doesn't exist to justify your own fakecel hedonism, but it's just simply not according to the statistics of people who do marry virgins.So no ascension isn't a waste of time, at least proper ascension with a virgin woman, we have the data to back this up, really the only reason you would willfully deny this, is because you are happy having hedonistic sex because you're not an Incel, you are a sex having degenerate hedonist who is not interested in a relationship even if there is proof you can get one with a virgin and live happily ever after not getting cucked. BlkPillPres said:I can have sex because I'm objective and I haven't placed illogical emotionally based egotistical mentalcel restrictions on myself, if you are unwilling to pay for sex because you want to feel wanted, then that's your fault for valuing things of subjective worth rather than things of objective worth, its not my fault you are an idiot lolYou can have sex because you're a fakecelBlkPillPres said:Like I keep saying guys like you are InLon (Involuntarily Lonely) not InCel (Involuntarily Celibate), you are obsessed more with being in a relationship than actually getting sex, that's a mindset fit for being a cuck that's alright with his girl having a little fun as long as he gets some every now and thenYou might very well be the kind of guy I am talking about above, who ascends into cuckdom, that isn't an upgrade, like many users have said beforeCept you're not cucked if you're having sex daily with a girl you married as a virgin, again you can pretend these relationships can't happen, or they're not real, but this is simply not the case.BlkPillPres said:Better incel than cuckYeah I agree, that's why I wouldn't be a massive cuck fakecel like you who pays women for sex when he could use those resources and effort to get a relationship but chooses not to because he's not interested in one and pretends its not possible because he's satisfied with his hedonistic lifestyle.", "just look like shitmaxx bro", "BrendioEEE said:We've gone through this so many times already. You only get cucked if you don't ascend with a virginDude I have to go sleep for work tomorrow so I'll stop on that one and end my night on a good note with a good laugh, I won't be going at your entire post, I don't have enough time right nowI like how you just rolled that line out, like it can just be done, like its even plausible in this day and ageWith every response you guys prove to me that you are illogical and hopelessly chasing pipe dreamsGuys like you aren't even willing to become amish and go live with those people, to become a muslim and move to an islamic state, etc, you aren't willing to actually make any sacrifices to get what you want, all guys like you ever do is complain about what you don't have, because its easier to complainWhat are you even doing currently in your life to make your pursuits of a virgin wife possible?If the answer is nothing, then STFU about it, you aren't being realisticBrendioEEE said:chooses not to because he's not interested in one and pretends its not possible because he's satisfied with his hedonistic lifestyle.I swear my threads are made for illogical idiots like yourself who were indoctrinated by societyAnd yes you used the right words, SATISFACTION is my goal, not subjective BS, I don't want to be BETTER THAN anyone, I want to be BETTER OFF THAN them said:I don't have pride in anything period, pride is for egoists, it will only blind you and hold you back.Don't be proud of things, be SATISFIED with how much they benefit your existence, pride is just subjective BS that will lead to one making emotionally based decisions, rather than logically based decisions.BlkPillPres said:Happiness is based on the limitations one places on themselves (ego, goals, etc) and the limitations that life placed on them (birth place, physical/mental disabilities, etc)That's why I don't aspire to be happy, I aspire to be physically SATISFIED and stress free, that criteria is much more objective than being happy, because talk to the average person who says they are happy and they live stressful and problematic lives, and that's because their personal standards for themselves revolves around facing challenges, so they never stop chasing after more stresses in life, and they are always stuck wondering why they never feel truly satisfied. Its because they are playing the game wrong, life isn't an endless series of achievements to be met, and that's the mindset (((they))) have indoctrinated onto the masses to keep us happy and busy worker drones while they actually enjoy what a fulfilling life is aboue (peace and prosperity).", "Improving looks=improving chances", "StoicNihilist said:I agree that fatcel is volcel. Take a look at Boogie. You can tell beneath all that fat he has a decent bone structure. He's normie tier. 119524 119525If Boogie is above average height then he could definitely get a gf after losing weight. Being obese isn't good anyways, else youll end up on my 600 lbs life", "high IQ brolooksmaxxing is a huge cope unless you are a 6 or higher", "gigacel123 said:If Boogie is above average height then he could definitely get a gf after losing weight. Being obese isn't good anyways, else youll end up on my 600 lbs lifeAnd not live past 50... not that I want to anyways. But yeah, it's still better to just be healthy.", "BrendioEEE said:So instead of actually putting in your best effort to try and escape Inceldom, just give up because, lol women looksmaxx tooIncredible argument, but I guess a sex having fakecel wouldn't care much about improving their looks especially when they aren't interested in a real relationship.", "Looksmaxing and ascending will do what boyos? Take the black pill out of the world? Stop chad from getting all the women? Stop your girl from leaving you for the better deal?Make you a normie? What will it do? It's a blue pilled cope to think that looksmaxing will change anything. EVERYTHING is cope. When you accept the blackpill, you accept nihilism. Find your best cope that doesn't revolve around ascending that is all you can do as an incel.", "StoicNihilist said:Depending on how bad you look yeah. If you're a truecel tier 1-3/10 then looksmaxxing won't do you much good. If you're 4-5/10 then it might allow you to escortcel.I'd argue even if you are awful looking looksmaxxing is important. You will be treated better as a 3 than a 1.", "The only form of looksmaxxing that is legit for ugly men is surgery.", "Looksmaxing is legit my friend, but only if you're dedicated and want some real skin in the game. Softcore looksmaxing won't do shit for getting you any closer to getting laid. I don't do looksmaxing because I want to become a chad, I do it because I want a better life than the shit one that I currently have. I'm okay with not being the top tier man, I just want to have some experience with sex and to have an easier time getting a job. Even if looksmaxing doesn't bring in all the pussy, I'd say it's still worth it just because of the increase in self-confidence and better treatment you get from everyone. It also brings you closer to being able to get it without escorts. I actually went up to looking like a normie almost from looksmaxing, but I think that's because I didn't really take care of my skin or anything before. I just followed bluepilled normie advice such as just wash your face and shower and your acne will go away hurr and picked at my acne all the time.All I'm really doing at this point is trying to get rid of acne scars and trying to fix my bad teeth and poor jaw development. I'm hoping I'll ascend once I get in touch with some good orthotropists and get some appliances to change my facial development. I think it's kind of tragic that taking care of yourself should be seen as feminine and petty. It really isn't, and it shouldn't have to be either of those things.universallyabhorred said:The only form of looksmaxxing that is legit for ugly men is surgery.Also this. Like I've said, you have to be seriously committed if you want to actually ascend. I think that's why one article was so asshurt over men getting surgery, because it was good enough to genuinely fool them.", "Looksmaxxcel said:Looksmaxing is legit my friend, but only if you're dedicated and want some real skin in the game. Softcore looksmaxing won't do shit for getting you any closer to getting laid. I don't do looksmaxing because I want to become a chad, I do it because I want a better life than the shit one that I currently have. I'm okay with not being the top tier man, I just want to have some experience with sex and to have an easier time getting a job.Even if looksmaxing doesn't bring in all the pussy, I'd say it's still worth it just because of the increase in self-confidence and better treatment you get from everyone. It also brings you closer to being able to get it without escorts. I actually went up to looking like a normie almost from looksmaxing, but I think that's because I didn't really take care of my skin or anything before. I just followed bluepilled normie advice such as just wash your face and shower and your acne will go away hurr and picked at my acne all the time.All I'm really doing at this point is trying to get rid of acne scars and trying to fix my bad teeth and poor jaw development. I'm hoping I'll ascend once I get in touch with some good orthotropists and get some appliances to change my facial development.I think it's kind of tragic that taking care of yourself should be seen as feminine and petty. It really isn't, and it shouldn't have to be either of those things.Also this.Like I've said, you have to be seriously committed if you want to actually ascend. I think that's why one article was so asshurt over men getting surgery, because it was good enough to genuinely fool them.Bravo my friend. I couldn't say it better. I feel like those who say things like looksmaxing is cope or that it's useless are either incels that don't wish other to ascend via this route or are unfortunately too fucked looks-wise and they know that it isn't a viable option for them. Some are typical lazycels.In fact, you can reap the benefits of high level of looksmaxing (refering to surgeries) if in the first place, you are around a 4-5 on the looks scale. If you are a sub4, I'm not saying that it would be impossible but very difficult to reach the threshold to make it. For others, it's just absolutely pointless indeed.", "BlkPillPres said:The worst part about it, is that even after all that, after betraying yourself and doing all that emasculating shit, you still aren't even guaranteed sex, after all that time and effort you can still be rejected, and if you are the average incel, you likely will be rejected, as many men's base looks mog your looksmaxxed self, its an endless uphill battle", "BlkPillPres said:If you aren't a nihilist, then you haven't fully accepted the black pill", "The worst of all is that we cannot apply to them the same unrealistic demands that they make to us which makes it more rage inducing.", "satoshisacuck said:I think people should be healthmaxxing, that means not being fat.", "What I always wondered about incels possibly ascending through looksmaxxing is, what if you do get a gf or even a wife? Do you tell her that your current looks are a result of surgery? Do you show her what you looked like pre-surgery? Women feel attracted to attractive men because they want to create babies with them that carry their high-quality genes so I question if they'd still be sexually attracted to you if they knew what you'd really look like.", "the worst part about these retardmaxxed threads is that you post too many of them for it to be a jokethe thing that bothers me most about them is that the person making them either actually believes this or tells themselves that believing this stream of consciousness makes them high IQ for ego purposes. Either way I don't wish that retardation on anyone, including you man, so please get better soon. I don't think they do lobotomies anymore so you're out of luck when it comes to a quick fix.Incellectual said:I'd argue even if you are awful looking looksmaxxing is important. You will be treated better as a 3 than a 1.", "If foids fraud why men not? Of course is a waste of time if you don't get results, but maybe some incels can ascend through that way.", "BlkPillPres said:Dude I have to go sleep for work tomorrow so I'll stop on that one and end my night on a good note with a good laugh, I won't be going at your entire post, I don't have enough time right nowYou've never addressed any of my arguments without massive amount of coping/logical fallacies/etc, because you can't, it's clear that if you were forced to address my arguments from beginning to end without your emotional hedonistic degenerate lense, you would be forced to recognize your hypocrisy, and that you don't even belong in this community even as a non incel blackilled normie.", "Looksmaxxing is legit but give paycels a break, they are just trying to cope.", "BrendioEEE said:You've never addressed any of my arguments without massive amount of coping/logical fallacies/etc, because you can't, it's clear that if you were forced to address my arguments from beginning to end without your emotional hedonistic degenerate lense, you would be forced to recognize your hypocrisy, and that you don't even belong in this community even as a non incel blackilled normie.I don't think even you understand the words you are using, just seem like you are stringing together words lol, what hypocrisy?, please be specificAlso lets make this straight forward and simple, list your questions and i'll answer them, number them, for question one put 1., and so on, because we all know what you're saying is complete BS and guys like you avoid being precise and specific in your arguments for that very reason.", "BlkPillPres said:I've always found men looksmaxxing to be very ironic, because one of the things we often complain about is the female behaviour and mindset, and looksmaxxing is men essentially emulating thatI'm not saying men shouldn't trying to look good, but men are seriously taking this shit to feminine levels, deeply cosmetic, men knowing which colour clothing brings out their eyes and what hair style pairs well with what look, etc is feminine as fuck, men should not be focusing on such trivial shallow and pointless things, were becoming like women, which makes our criticism of them ever more ironic. At the current rate things are going, the next generation of men will begin trying to normalize men wearing makeup, then we'll be lying just as much as themIronically in our attempts to keep up with women and meet their standards, we are basically becoming them in the process, were becoming the bitchesMen beautifying themselves like bitches competing for looks points trying to 1up each other like women typically do is very pathetic and emasculating when you think about it, next thing you know guys are gonna be starting threads about what type of jeans makes their butt look goodThis is why I never took part in any of this looksmax nonsense, I just dressed regularly and practiced basic hygiene, all the other stuff just felt ironic and patheticThe worst part about it, is that even after all that, after betraying yourself and doing all that emasculating shit, you still aren't even guaranteed sex, after all that time and effort you can still be rejected, and if you are the average incel, you likely will be rejected, as many men's base looks mog your looksmaxxed self, its an endless uphill battleLooksmaxxing is a waste of time, money and dignity lolI agree that it's feminine. But we have no choice. We are trying to ascend lookswise in hopes of getting laid. If rape was legal I would give af about looksmaxxing. But honestly I'm still looksmaxxing", "YBP Yxngcel said:I agree that it's feminine. But we have no choice. We are trying to ascend lookswise in hopes of getting laid. If rape was legal I would give af about looksmaxxing. But honestly I'm still looksmaxxingI know of two choices:1. Locationmaxxing - If by ascend you mean marriage and a family, build your wealth and career, buy assets, move to a country with a strict traditional culture and community. It will be 100 times easier to find a wife and to date there, and depending on the laws you won't have to worry about being divorce raped. The women also don't expect you to beautify yourself, men are men and women are women in these cultures.Just talk to western men who have travelled to countries like Colombia, they never want to go back to the west but they don't have the resources to stay. The women there are submissive and understand their role (because they have to). Remember all women are the same, the only difference is the options they have available, the options determine their behavior. This is why you can't take that wife and bring her to the West.2. Prostitution - If by ascend you mean get laid, simply fuck prostitutes, you can do Locationmaxxing for that to so that you can get greater quality for way less money.", "BlkPillPres said:2. Prostitution - If by ascend you mean get laid, simply fuck prostitutes, you can do Locationmaxxing for that to so that you can get greater quality for way less money.What's the best place to locationmaxx for prostitutes (meaning where they are the cheapest you can get for the safest)? Thailand?", "BlkPillPres said:I know of two choices:1. Locationmaxxing - If by ascend you mean marriage and a family, build your wealth and career, buy assets, move to a country with a strict traditional culture and community. It will be 100 times easier to find a wife and to date there, and depending on the laws you won't have to worry about being divorce raped. The women also don't expect you to beautify yourself, men are men and women are women in these cultures.Just talk to western men who have travelled to countries like Colombia, they never want to go back to the west but they don't have the resources to stay. The women there are submissive and understand their role (because they have to). Remember all women are the same, the only difference is the options they have available, the options determine their behavior. This is why you can't take that wife and bring her to the West.2. Prostitution - If by ascend you mean get laid, simply fuck prostitutes, you can do Locationmaxxing for that to so that you can get greater quality for way less money.Anything short of locking women inside is a recipe for failure over the span of multiple generations. I'm not being edgy here, I seriously think that decline in sexual mores is inevitable without Ancient Greek style imprisonment of women.", "uo89997 said:What's the best place to locationmaxx for prostitutes (meaning where they are the cheapest you can get for the safest)? Thailand?I haven't done much research but based on what I've heard, I think it actually is Thailand.", "looksmaxxing is a waste as a sub-5I go around with my hair that needs a haircut since a month ago and I don't give a single fuck, I dress old clothes, etc.It's liberating in that sense.You see all these npc's busting their bodies at the gym while I am at home enjoying my nintendo switch emulator, then eating good pizza slices while smoking fat joints.fuck looksmaxxing, only foids should take care of being feminine, submissive pretty.cheers! ", "BeatsMonster23 said:I go around with my hair that needs a haircut since a month ago and I don't give a single fuck, I dress old clothes, etc.Same", "BeatsMonster23 said:looksmaxxing is a waste as a sub-5I go around with my hair that needs a haircut since a month ago and I don't give a single fuck, I dress old clothes, etc.It's liberating in that sense.You see all these npc's busting their bodies at the gym while I am at home enjoying my nintendo switch emulator, then eating good pizza slices while smoking fat joints.fuck looksmaxxing, only foids should take care of being feminine, submissive pretty.cheers! Only reason to work out is to not get bullied by normies, there's no hope of ascending", "mlcurrycel said:Only reason to work out is to not get bullied by normies, there's no hope of ascendingThis isn't even an issue for adults. There is no bullying in the adult world. Only full on violent crime, and having muscles isn't going to protect you from a knife or a gun.The only reason to work out is to be healthy for your own sake so you can enjoy life.", "SocialzERo said:Banned?I;m trying to figure out what happened" ]
ExperimentIf I was to walk up to IncelTears, hat in hand, and ask for their advice on how to be happy, would that be cause for my expulsion from Incels.co?
[ "If they're so smart, if they have the answers, I wanna put this to the test. If I can submit to them honestly and follow their word, but still not be happy, that would be something they would have to admit, right? That their method doesn't work for everyone?But if I was to do this, would I receive punishment under the No Bluepills provision of the rules? I wouldn't come here preaching bluepills, but I would sample the bluepill myself, personally. Because I'd like to be happy. But at the same time, if I can't be happy, what I want is for the people who told me to cheer up to realize that it's not as simple as they make it out to be.", "Sounds like a interesting social experiment, you don't have much to lose tbh.", "You can see the bullshit firsthand.", "Heres what will happen:They give you the usual canned adviceYou begin to follow itWeeks/months later you have nothing to show for itYou return to them to say its not working and you're still miserableThey say you didn't try hard enough/long enoughThey'll always have an out by playing the but you gave up! you should have kept going! card, basically you keep doing it until you run out of time and die of old age.", "The males on IT are just trying the failed male feminist mating strategy along with occasional humble bragging about their dating success by giving bluepilled advice. Like I said before, people only give bluepilled advice when they want to imply to others that they have dated in the past and are better than you genetically. Females on IT are there for one reason: to criminalize incel thinking. Blackpilled incels know that female hatred for non-goodlooking males stems from their biology. If this secret is spread to the mainstream media, female power in society would gradually weaken.", "You don't have to state your name. You can just use a alt to ask.", "AsiaCel said:You don't have to state your name. You can just use a alt to ask.I'm not afraid. And I honestly want help. I'll do anything.", "I wanna see screenshots after you ask them. I want to laugh at them.", "Ap0calypse said:Blackpilled incels know that female hatred for non-goodlooking males stems from their biology. If this secret is spread to the mainstream media, female power in society would gradually weaken.", "let them watch as you disprove them", "seija said:I wanna see screenshots after you ask them. I want to laugh at them.What, screenshots of the advice?", "FrothySolutions said:What, screenshots of the advice?Yeah.", "It would be pointless to do so but it wouldn’t be against the rules", "In this moment, we are all at the same table. ", "FrothySolutions said:I'm not afraid. And I honestly want help. I'll do anything.This ain't the answer. All advice you'll get is nice guy theory and just put yourself out there bro", "LittleDarkAge said:This ain't the answer. All advice you'll get is nice guy theory and just put yourself out there broSo I'll do that. And we'll see if it works.", "FrothySolutions said:So I'll do that. And we'll see if it works.Right now, we're currently waiting for a response. It will probably be some bluepilled normie-tier bullshit though.", "seija said:Right now, we're currently waiting for a response. It will probably be some bluepilled normie-tier bullshit though.I'm waiting on approval of the post. But what I'm thinking is gonna happen is, it's gonna be approved, but because it took so long to get approved it'll only appear way at the bottom of the subreddit, buried under other posts. And never be seen. I've been burned on that before.", "FrothySolutions said:I'm waiting on approval of the post. But what I'm thinking is gonna happen is, it's gonna be approved, but because it took so long to get approved it'll only appear way at the bottom of the subreddit, buried under other posts. And never be seen. I've been burned on that before.Whew, its over then. IT will probably not give a shit about your post or flame your ass out of their subreddit.", "They are incels in denial. Most of the men on there don't actually believe what they say.", "seija said:Whew, its over then. IT will probably not give a shit about your post or flame your ass out of their subreddit.You'd THINK they'd understand that I'm sincere. That I'm not trolling and I really want help. Crowdsourced help that I can verify. I've been over there before and I've been nothing but patient with them. In the face of some real jackasses.", "Asking IT for anything is JFLToppest of topkek", "FrothySolutions said:You'd THINK they'd understand that I'm sincere. That I'm not trolling and I really want help. Crowdsourced help that I can verify. I've been over there before and I've been nothing but patient with them. In the face of some real jackasses.Its IT, they don't care that your sincere to them. They'll flame your ass out regardless of what you say, thats the power of mob mentality & the majority.", "FrothySolutions said:If they're so smart, if they have the answers, I wanna put this to the test. If I can submit to them honestly and follow their word, but still not be happy, that would be something they would have to admit, right? That their method doesn't work for everyone?But if I was to do this, would I receive punishment under the No Bluepills provision of the rules? I wouldn't come here preaching bluepills, but I would sample the bluepill myself, personally. Because I'd like to be happy. But at the same time, if I can't be happy, what I want is for the people who told me to cheer up to realize that it's not as simple as they make it out to be.I literally tried this like a month ago and I got only 1 PM from someone who wanted a serious discussion about inceldom. And maybe like 20 PMs asking me to kill myself and calling me a pedophile and mass shooter sympathizer, shit like that.It ain't worth it. They are set in thier ways and view us as the lowest of the low scum.", "StoicNihilist said:I literally tried this like a month ago and I got only 1 PM from someone who wanted a serious discussion about inceldom. And maybe like 20 PMs asking me to kill myself and calling me a pedophile and mass shooter sympathizer, shit like that.It ain't worth it. They are set in thier ways and view us as the lowest of the low scum.Its because of this reply that wants me to make a reddit account just to ask and experiment with IT. You've just inspired me.", "seija said:Its because of this reply that wants me to make a reddit account just to ask and experiment with IT. You've just inspired me.Go ahead, I dont think you'll be banned for it. Just get ready for some disappointment.", "Me rn atm ", "Hell said:Heres what will happen:They give you the usual canned adviceYou begin to follow itWeeks/months later you have nothing to show for itYou return to them to say its not working and you're still miserableThey say you didn't try hard enough/long enoughThey'll always have an out by playing the but you gave up! you should have kept going! card, basically you keep doing it until you run out of time and die of old age.Bullseye. It's a holy grail chase & they know it.", "You know cucktears lurks this forum, right?For fuck's sake at least use the chat room or discord server to plan these lame social experiments.", "Just watch Captain Marvel theory.", "KingOfRome said:You know cucktears lurks this forum, right?For fuck's sake at least use the chat room or discord server to plan these lame social experiments.Not only am I not afraid of them spying on me, I want them to see this post.", "Tried it.I was insulted majority of the time or downvoted whenever I tried to have a calm debate with them.You won't get anywhere with them.", "ElliotRodgerGod said:You can see the bullshit firsthand.", "Hate_my_life said:Tried it.I was insulted majority of the time or downvoted whenever I tried to have a calm debate with them.You won't get anywhere with them.I don't wanna have a debate, I wanna follow their advice.", "if u want help just read TRP, just boils down to not being a pansy and and lifting though, heavy emphasis on the lifting", "Ricecel said:if u want help just read TRP, just boils down to not being a pansy and and lifting though, heavy emphasis on the liftingI'm already doing those things, probably.", "No, it's good to seek other opinions. This site is an echo chamber and is by no means the end all be all place of advice. If you are yo branch put you may learn some valuable information.", "KanashiiOtokonoko said:No, it's good to seek other opinions. This site is an echo chamber and is by no means the end all be all place of advice. If you are yo branch put you may learn some valuable information.Just get bluepilled advice from reddit bro", "KanashiiOtokonoko said:No, it's good to seek other opinions. This site is an echo chamber and is by no means the end all be all place of advice. If you are yo branch put you may learn some valuable information.Insomniac said:Just get bluepilled advice from reddit broThis place can be an echo chamber though. Serge comes by with some new ideas and people just shut 'em down.", "Insomniac said:Just get bluepilled advice from reddit broThis is why you are a brainlet.", "KanashiiOtokonoko said:This is why you are a brainlet.If the bluepill is wrong, I'll prove it. I'll be the example.", "KanashiiOtokonoko said:This is why you are a brainlet.still livin' in fuckin' lala land", "Insomniac said:still livin' in fuckin' lala landYou are an NPC, unironically. You fit the definition so perfectly it amazes me.FrothySolutions said:If the bluepill is wrong, I'll prove it. I'll be the example.I'm not saying it is right or wrong, all I am saying is that you should absorb information yourself and determine your own opinions on it. Not to be an NPC and blindly accept the opinions of randoms on the internet.", "Hate_my_life said:Tried it.I was insulted majority of the time or downvoted whenever I tried to have a calm debate with them.You won't get anywhere with them.Same here. I made so much calm arguments with them on one of my throwaways that they banned me.", "Fuck it. It all boils down to one thing. What do you have to lose?...if it doesn't work. Well. This place ain't going nowhere.", "Hell said:They say you didn't try hard enough/long enoughThis. They will always say this no matter what argument you give. Because that's also their cope for being virgins.", "RollD20 said:Sounds like a interesting social experiment, you don't have much to lose tbh.", "Dude, you know how they operate, they would just move the goalposts or alternatively use a Motte and Bailey argument.They will never ever admit they are wrong, because their goal has always been putting down others to experience a feeling of superiority." ]
BlackpillIf women cared about muh perceived fighting success, super masculine guys, etc. why dont they have MMA fighters and boxers on their wall?
[ "Everyone knows women have pictures of pretty boy pop stars, actors, and male models on their walls, but never bodybuilders, or heavyweight boxers.Only dudes (usually gymcels) have posters of MMA fighters, boxers, or bodybuilders.And combat sports fans are like 99 percent male. There would be a lot more women following boxing or UFC if they were turned on by fighting success.", "cause these pop star guys are mostly 7-8~ while fighters are 5~ if given the choice between masculinemaxed fighter and prettyboy of same rating i think most of them would pick fighter", "masculine chad will always mog effeminate prettyboy", "They don't. They only care about facial aesthetics and height. The reasoning is because there is a higher chance of GL offspring which means a higher chance their offspring will also procreate etc etc etc. Pretty basic.", "Insomniac said:masculine chad will always mog effeminate prettyboyPrettyboys get prime women(14-18),masculine chads after that.", "Cause with money chad can hire several bodyguards or a jew lawyer to put the mma guy in jail", "combat sports are targeted to a male audience and most of those dudes aren't attractive, women don't care about fighting success anyway", "Ryo_Hazuki said:Everyone knows women have pictures of pretty boy pop stars, actors, and male models on their walls, but never bodybuilders, or heavyweight boxers.Only dudes (usually gymcels) have posters of MMA fighters, boxers, or bodybuilders.And combat sports fans are like 99 percent male. There would be a lot more women following boxing or UFC if they were turned on by fighting success.good looking guys are masculine (meaning large skull, hunter eyes) but being masculine doesn't make you attractiveit's just one thing out of many required to get landwhale in 2019", "Bodybuilders just look worse than models/celebs with a sixpack and visible muscles of normal size.They overdo it, head-sized muscles just look grotesque.", "Weeb25 said:cause these pop star guys are mostly 7-8~ while fighters are 5~ if given the choice between masculinemaxed fighter and prettyboy of same rating i think most of them would pick fighterGood point ", "I agree, at least concerning the face alone, I always held the thought female preference is biased towards a global aesthetic evaluation of the male face, than its inherent masculinity. While masculine features are prone to be recognized as good in a male face, it´s not always the case. I think that masculine traits, especially if they´re taken to the extreme or their sum surpasses a certain threshold, they create facial disharmony, in spite of the fact they offer the maximum functionality (skull resistance + advertisement of genetic quality).Conversely, female traits have much more potential to produce a pleasant result in the appeal of a female face. What we would define a recessed jaw in a female, it might even look cute with the right facial traits compensating for that, or not unpleasant at all. It´s obvious there´s a loss of skull resistance as it´s not the highest priority in this case, indeed the most attractive female faces display a significant degree of neoteny.Moreover, femoids know by instinct that a masculine male will react much worse to manipulation attempts than the run of the mill aesthetic chad, now coming even in a faggotized package to satisfy even more facets of the female public.", "young girls believe in romantic love so they spend their time daydreaming about these pretty boys...but if we talk about basic sexual attraction I think high T and GL males have an actual advantage.", "Martial artists = coping volcels", "If I can't have good looks I'd rather look intimidating than weak. At least it saves some of my dignity. I gymcel and MMA so I'm ready in case I get assaulted by normie scum they'd be in for a rude awakening.5'5 rice manlet isn't weak... He been thru enough shit in his life from people that if you dare physically cross him you bet he'd whoop your ass... I'm not doing it to attract foids. Its for my own protection against a society that hates me.", "Fundamentally they would have pictures of soldiers & the like as well as military combatants who are skilled in all sorts of combat. Understood opening post though.Algeriancel said:Martial artists = coping volcelsI would beg to disagree as it's self defence.", "LittleBoy said:Fundamentally they would have pictures of soldiers & the like as well as military combatants who are skilled in all sorts of combat. Understood opening post though.I would beg to disagree as it's self defence.Cope. You can't defend yourself from a foid rape accusation with high kicks....I was just jk tbh. You're right", "An organism with low levels of fluctuating asymmetry will tend to be successful in it´s life cycle. And low fluctuating asymmetry is a strong indicator of developmental stability.Many people that are deep into weight-lifting or bodybuilding are probably lacking in complete and harmonious neurodevelopment.People who are coping with endeavours such as blood sports and gym-ratting don´t need a well developed differentiation ability, reaction ability, rhythmic ability, balance ability and orientation ability. Nor do they need the same coordination and reflexes that a dancer or musician exhibits. Muscle hypertrophy is not part of successful signaling theory in mating.", "Insomniac said:masculine chad will always mog effeminate prettyboyMaybe when it comes to attracting post wall roasties, while the effeminate pretty boy will slay prime girls between the age of 14 - 18.", "bottomline ispedigree that signals genetic refinement matters more than muscles that don't have the ethereal tidiness/ prestige to them like having chad bone structure/ rare colored features like blue eyes, and a full head of hair and sharp features.Joelossus said:Maybe when it comes to attracting post wall roasties, while the effeminate pretty boy will slay prime girls between the age of 14 - 18.the chad has to have some prettyboy features.this place can be so reductionist. It needs to be both.women don't wanna have a 6'5 tyrone more than a 5'8 zac efron.", "I somewhat disagree with the premise here. The only femoids who have posters of guys on their wall as far as I know are teens & maybe young adults. They pin up actors and what not, in part, just to fit in. That doesn't mean they aren't secretly into tough guys and fighting machines.", "All bodybuilders/powerlifters/fighters GFs/Wives are all ugly or fat usually, its usually an exception when they have a good looking woman.Thing is most guys get into these things because they aren't good looking to begin with, and they have no self esteem and try to use one of these ways to boost self esteem.Good looking guys don't need to do this, they can, but its not a requirement for them, they have sky high tier self esteem from decades of positive reinforcement, social success and constant attention from women.", "Eugenicist said:women don't wanna have a 6'5 tyrone more than a 5'8 zac efron.height > all", "Weeb25 said:cause these pop star guys are mostly 7-8~ while fighters are 5~ if given the choice between masculinemaxed fighter and prettyboy of same rating i think most of them would pick fighterpop star guys are more desired because they already look like they are winning in life. women don't think we live in the age of dog vs dog anymore. it's the age of sophistication and strategy like a chess game.if a guy has a good feature, say a refined jaw/ good facial features, and is white then they won the game more than any masculinemaxxed try-rone, or ethnic, or countryboy tier white. The popstar guys signal they don't have to bust ass in the gym to assert their worth. They already have the essentials, and muscles are a lot to manage and ruin your health at the end of the day/ your life. And the demeanor value boost of looking like you're lean muscle, rather than buff makes the physio-implication you're able to be dexterous rather than a roughneck. Makes you more able to rely on your mind/ superior reflexes than being an insecure guy who has shit reflexes and has to compensate with brute strength (women will make a little note that the shittier reflexes you have, or the things that make up for reflexes/ genetic size/ things that are basically subtle and unchangeable then the more of a worthless loser you started out as, so nonmalleable value/ the offhandarchy)real truecel said:height > allheight should not be underestimated but still, reductionist.plus taylor lautner although having good features is still somewhat ethnic.yes, his height does make him seem of low value to that particular valueset of girls but there's still a lot of girls down the line who would fuck a buffmax statusmaxed and pretty boy maxxed semi ethnic. It just depends though. Those olive-white stacies in particular probably have seen a lot of action, and probably have a very superficialistic valueset. So the stacies will want to get dopamine from the novelty of being with a complete set.Though it depends often where a girl is on the dopamine source pyramid.A lot of girls these days if they are low self esteem will settle for the primal value lautner has.Plus don't underestimate how that made them seem distinct to taylor lautner. But yes the valueset of girls really does make things more exacting.TheReaper said:young girls believe in romantic love so they spend their time daydreaming about these pretty boys...but if we talk about basic sexual attraction I think high T and GL males have an actual advantage.yes they do believe in that.women know that romantic love is just a reductionistic illusion though because it doesn't come without the guy wanting superficial value from her too which means that it's not necessarily as purely friendly/ harmonic/ compassionate as she wants.There's the nitty gritty/ nuts and bolts of every relationship which has to do with exchange value. Women though want to completely get that over and done with and skip on to their illusions. Women are in high need of cuteness and delight in their lives, and they just strafe through black pill realities/ blackpillishly aware activities on a subconscious level.Lubricure said:Moreover, femoids know by instinct that a masculine male will react much worse to manipulation attempts than the run of the mill aesthetic chad, now coming even in a faggotized package to satisfy even more facets of the female public.partially but I believe that they want it because they hate the masculine lifestyle of chads who would go to war for years without entertaining the girl. along with the dangerousness/ irritability of generically masculine men which makes women feel disconcerted. women go through cycles of wanting hot and sexy and dangerous/ unpredictable. it's all about the dopamine pendulum of extremes which primal desire is taken. but the problem is with masculinity as opposed to pop star hottie is that masculinity can be dangerous and not long lasting. think of the beta provider. women want a sophisticated pretty boy guy with the right lifestyle that isn't relying on muscle-building for distinction from the public. those traits that are born-bolted are unchangeable, and the guy is safe and steady. they'd rather be bored in power with high pedigree male than endangered with masculine guy.", "Ryo_Hazuki said:Only dudes (usually gymcels) have posters of MMA fighters, boxers, or bodybuilders.No bro I'm a gymcel and I have no posters posters are for girls and gays", "Obviously that was a theory for gymcels to cope, when there really is no gym for your face, you are either born with good genes or die a loser.IlIlllllIlIl said:They don't. They only care about facial aesthetics and height. The reasoning is because there is a higher chance of GL offspring which means a higher chance their offspring will also procreate etc etc etc. Pretty basic.", "They've never met the prettyboys in real life. Besides, females are not interested in combat sports like you said, so they don't have the time to develop a one way bond with them through a kind of forced proximity (them watching the fighter fight or whatever).", "MMA fighters and boxers possess learned skills that their offspring will not inherit. Therefore it’s irelevant. It’s all about immutable genetic traits that lend themselves to survival success.Ask any girl on earth the following questions:Tall guy or short guy?Broad shoulders or narrow shoulders?Large skull or small skull?Large robust jaw or small fragile jawRobust browridge or gracile forehead?Thick wrists of frail wrists?Large hands or small hands?Long arms or short arms?Large torso or small torso?Indicators of high test or indicators of low test?Physically capable of murder or incapable of murder?Every girl on earth will have the same answer to all these questions.. only question is whether or not it is a coincidence that these features that women select for also happen to Determine fighting success.. answer: it’s not a coincidence. Survival success and indicators of survival success are paramount to mate selection. survival success in males IS fighting success. The proof is sexual dimorphism itself. Would men have evolved to be large robust muscle bound killers if it didn’t lend itself to survival success? Men have evolved to be killing machines. Do you think the males of every other mammal species on earth are sexually selected based on fighting success, except for humans?Fighting success is PARAMOUNT for sexual market value. Marriage market value aka betabuxx is another story. Just because you see a low fighting success guy with a fuckable girl does not necessarily mean that she likes him, or that her pussy gets wet for him, or that’s he wouldn’t leave him the second a larger version of him shows up.No mercy. Mog or be mogged. Kill or be killed. That is the way of the jungle. The name of the game is genetic immortality. The offspring of Large high test killers are more likely to survive than the offspring of 5’2” narrow framed peanut skulled twinks. Will women still grant sexual access to low fighting success guys? Yes. For financial reasons / resources. Men serve 2 utilities for women: sperm quality and resources. part of their sexuality is to exploit their concealed ovulation and have consequence-free sex with men with lots of resources, regardless of the man’s genetic quality. The other part is to be impregnated by high quality sperm during peak fertility, regardless of the man’s resources. Its frowned upon to practice mate selection like that in modern times though. Women now have to settle for a man with an acceptable but compromising combination of sperm quality / resources.As with everything else, exceptions exist. The existence of exceptions does not disprove the rule though.Edit: being a pro fighter does increase your SMV though. A girl would pick a fighter over a normal guy, all things bein equal. But it’s similar to how they’ll pick a gymcel over a non gymcel all things being equal. It raises your SMV, but does not hold a candle to high quality genes. I.e. a foid would pick a scrawny tall broad shouldered guy over a manlet gymcel anyday. They’ll pick a naturally high fighting success guy over an artificially high fighting success guy. Genes > everything else", "non_factor said:Prettyboys get prime women(14-18),masculine chads after that.tbhtbh", "IlIlllllIlIl said:They don't. They only care about facial aesthetics and height. The reasoning is because there is a higher chance of GL offspring which means a higher chance their offspring will also procreate etc etc etc. Pretty basic.Makes no sense. There needs to be an initial priming, why chads are considered good looking in the first place. An evolutionary disadvantage in survival, that leads to offspring of foids without increased mating preference for chad to die off easier, causing the folllowing generations to carry less egalitarian attraction genes.This process happened in (pre-) stone age times under natural circumstances. No MMA training for incelgruggs.Facial male beauty is an indicator for bone strength and your natural hormonal setup. Broad attraction towards those came from alternative attraction patterns simply dying out in the long run.Chadgrugg was naturally superior in these times.", "Only thing being a pretty boy ever got me is being told you're cute tehee by random women, like a puppy or something, primal lust is reserved for men who can put them in their place, fear and insecurity is lust for them", "Gyros_Pretcel said:Makes no sense. There needs to be an initial priming, why chads are considered good looking in the first place. An evolutionary disadvantage in survival, that leads to offspring of foids without increased mating preference for chad to die off easier, causing the folllowing generations to carry less egalitarian attraction genes.This process happened in (pre-) stone age times under natural circumstances. No MMA training for incelgruggs.Facial male beauty is an indicator for bone strength and your natural hormonal setup. Broad attraction towards those came from alternative attraction patterns simply dying out in the long run.Chadgrugg was naturally superior in these times.Times have changed though. There are skinny lanklets that have good facial bones who get women left and right. Yes, there is truth in what you say that there is a primal urge to mate with the dominant men. But there is such thing as indoctrination of the youth by the media.I know of some guys who look like they couldn't hurt a fly, but their facial bones are insane. They always have women after them. The only thing most women/girls care about now is facial aesthetics and height, both being equal but complimentary of each other. As explained in my former post, this is because of a high chance of healthy, goodlooking offspring, which almost guarantees that offspring will also reproduce.Chads can be weak little lanklets, but it matters not because of their facial bones. Edit: in other words, high fighting success now a days means the ability to attract a mate consistently.", "SchrodingersDick said:MMA fighters and boxers possess learned skills that their offspring will not inherit. Therefore it’s irelevant. It’s all about immutable genetic traits that lend themselves to survival success.Ask any girl on earth the following questions:Tall guy or short guy?Broad shoulders or narrow shoulders?Large skull or small skull?Large robust jaw or small fragile jawRobust browridge or gracile forehead?Thick wrists of frail wrists?Large hands or small hands?Long arms or short arms?Large torso or small torso?Indicators of high test or indicators of low test?Physically capable of murder or incapable of murder?Every girl on earth will have the same answer to all these questions.. only question is whether or not it is a coincidence that these features that women select for also happen to Determine fighting success.. answer: it’s not a coincidence. Survival success and indicators of survival success are paramount to mate selection. survival success in males IS fighting success. The proof is sexual dimorphism itself. Would men have evolved to be large robust muscle bound killers if it didn’t lend itself to survival success? Men have evolved to be killing machines. Do you think the males of every other mammal species on earth are sexually selected based on fighting success, except for humans?Fighting success is PARAMOUNT for sexual market value. Marriage market value aka betabuxx is another story. Just because you see a low fighting success guy with a fuckable girl does not necessarily mean that she likes him, or that her pussy gets wet for him, or that’s he wouldn’t leave him the second a larger version of him shows up.No mercy. Mog or be mogged. Kill or be killed. That is the way of the jungle. The name of the game is genetic immortality. The offspring of Large high test killers are more likely to survive than the offspring of 5’2” narrow framed peanut skulled twinks. Will women still grant sexual access to low fighting success guys? Yes. For financial reasons / resources. Men serve 2 utilities for women: sperm quality and resources. part of their sexuality is to exploit their concealed ovulation and have consequence-free sex with men with lots of resources, regardless of the man’s genetic quality. The other part is to be impregnated by high quality sperm during peak fertility, regardless of the man’s resources. Its frowned upon to practice mate selection like that in modern times though. Women now have to settle for a man with an acceptable but compromising combination of sperm quality / resources.As with everything else, exceptions exist. The existence of exceptions does not disprove the rule though.Edit: being a pro fighter does increase your SMV though. A girl would pick a fighter over a normal guy, all things bein equal. But it’s similar to how they’ll pick a gymcel over a non gymcel all things being equal. It raises your SMV, but does not hold a candle to high quality genes. I.e. a foid would pick a scrawny tall broad shouldered guy over a manlet gymcel anyday. They’ll pick a naturally high fighting success guy over an artificially high fighting success guy. Genes > everything elseGreat post. People really can't comprehend what perceived fighting success represents/actually is.", "Most mma fighters/boxers/etc are barely normie on looks, they cope with bodybuilding because they aren't attractive, otherwise they would be banging girls and not lifting heavy objects.Fit Chad>Unfit Chad that's pretty logic also, bodybuilders aren't attractive that's true, because back in time no one in nature just started to lift heavy objects with no reason whatsoever, bodybuilding is another modern cope and degeneracy, go hunt boars if you want to bodybuild.", "I agree with you man, girls care more about face and style than muscular body. Porn for women usually includes two pretty boys, and for gay men - two muscular, high t chads.", "Females care about looks and thats it, nothing else", "Face and height >>>> Perceived fighting successWhen a sub 8 male hits the gym or does martial arts, he will be accused for overcompensating. If he is a manlet, he has short man syndrome.Pretty boys will always mog him to oblivion. Only if you are good-looking, gymmaxxing or MMAmaxxing will benefit you.Chad lifts to complete the look. Subhumans lift to cope.", "Anyone can be a mma fighter. Females want genetics, not things that are attainable.", "I think that I'm done with trying to understand women, or their interests or their preferences.", "they're all about the face (and height to some extend)masculinity = square jawyou could literally beat up chad and he still would be considered the dominant masculine one somehow (and it wouldn't work the other way around)", "IlIlllllIlIl said:They don't. They only care about facial aesthetics and height. The reasoning is because there is a higher chance of GL offspring which means a higher chance their offspring will also procreate etc etc etc. Pretty basic.PowerLevelCel said:Face and height >>>> Perceived fighting successWhen a sub 8 male hits the gym or does martial arts, he will be accused for overcompensating. If he is a manlet, he has short man syndrome.Pretty boys will always mog him to oblivion. Only if you are good-looking, gymmaxxing or MMAmaxxing will benefit you.Chad lifts to complete the look. Subhumans lift to cope.", "all they need is 7+ face and average height by country", "mylifeistrash said:it's just one thing out of many required to get landwhale in 2019lol", "Insane observatory skills", "Looks are glorified and dominate now because resources and protection(which most celebrity boxers and mma fighters can provide) are provided for by the government, police, military, etc. In any other era boxers and mma fighters would be gladiators fighting to the death for fame and glory. It's still true to this day(mma fighters and boxers are still celebrities at the end of the day) just less so compared to Chad celebrities. " ]
[Dogpill] Women who work with dogs are getting fucked by them
[ "Here's a comment made by a zoocuck on a beastforum knock off site describing how his wife loved dog dick so much she decided to turn it into a respectable career. l love the massive dogpill he drops along the way because it's something I've noticed in my research of this subject...we even moved to a location for her to work full time with another couple into the lifestyle that own a kennel and breed dogs and sell their frozen sperm around the country. so my wife gives doggy hand jobs and gets paid for it! the nice benefit is she gets to go into their cages after hours and let them pound her. now that she works at one we've gotten quite a bit of inside info about other girls that explore their bestiality curiosity by working at kennels! we've even been told about college girls that take up dog walking jobs so they can find one or two they can play around with. More girls out their getting done doggy style by k9 than you can even imagine! its much more common that you would think!I've hunted all kinds of dog fuckers out over the Internet for a while now and one thing that stands out among a number of them is there are overlapping characteristics that bundle them together. There are many but one of these things is that women who work with animals, like vets, groomers, and dog walkers are at much higher rates of dog fucking than most people would ever suspect. I've found numerous amounts of them who are even dumb enough to put up not so subtle names like k9 girl in their own business credentials with logos that show women and dogs embracing each other in odd ways. I tracked down one particular women who wrote a guide on the Internet on how to fuck dogs way back in 1997 and after constant googling I tracked her down on Facebook. Turns out she was a dog groomer living in Seattle and she's been working at her business since the early 90s. She's in her 50s now and has Lyme disease. Talked to her a bit but she got pissed when she found out I knew she wrote that guide. Everybody knows the stereotype of priests and camp counselors who molest children, and there's a reason why this is the case. People with weird sexual fetishes take the opportunity that they can to be in closer proximity to their targets. There are priests out there that fuck kids, and likewise there are veterinarians who also fuck dogs. So, just what percentage of these animal lovers in America are female?93% of dog groomers are female and 7% are maleNonfarm animal caretakers include those who exercise, groom and feed animals in a range of different settings, from zoos and aquariums to kennels and animal shelters. Since 2000, the number of women working as animal caretakers has more than doubled, and today, 71.4% of all workers in the occupation are female, a larger share than the majority of jobs on this list.As recently as 2000, the majority of animal trainers were male. Since then, the number of women in the occupation increased by about 6,000, while the number of men working as animal trainers increased by only about 600. As a result, 51.8% of all animal trainers in the United States are now female, up from 40.6% in 2000.No job has become dominated by women faster than veterinarians. The number of women employed as veterinarians has more than doubled since 2000, resulting in a 25 percentage point increase in the share of female vets.Going back to what the zoocuck said, more girls out their getting done doggy style by k9 than you can even imagine! its much more common than you would think! And there's that phrase again, it's more common than you think. It's funny how this consistently pops up from the mouths of the people involved in the lifestyle. People still think this shit never happens though. If you want to see what it looks like when a dog fucks a vet then go ahead and click the links below.NSFW12", "Hello soytears. I hope you include me in your screenshot", "dogpill said:People still think this shit never happens though.Because most men are pathetic and think of females as these clean angelic creatures who can do nothing wrong.When in fact they are the most degenerate, disgusting, devious, deceitful, disloyal creatures on this shitty planet.People also make the mistake of thinking about it from their own perspective, because most humans are inherently narcissistic (Especially in the modern world) Oh I would never do that, sex with an animal? that's disgusting we like to think everyone else is like ourselves because it makes us feel that we belong. They don't realise that there are others who do not share their moral code.", "no manpls noi can't deal with thisi want to spit out the dogpill...", "When I used to have an IG, I uploaded pics of me and my foid coworkers never liked them. When I uploaded a pic of my household dog, I got likes and comments by the foids", "the dogpill is ruff", "The dogpill is unreal, also whats with cucks nowadays. They would let anything fuck their wife besides their tiny micropenis.", "The dogpill is by far the most brutal blackpill", "ManletHalfCurry said:Because most men are pathetic and think of females as these clean angelic creatures who can do nothing wrong.When in fact they are the most degenerate, disgusting, devious, deceitful, disloyal creatures on this shitty planet.People also make the mistake of thinking about it from their own perspective, because most humans are inherently narcissistic (Especially in the modern world) Oh I would never do that, sex with an animal? that's disgusting we like to think everyone else is like ourselves because it makes us feel that we belong. They don't realise that there are others who do not share their moral code.High IQ post", "The female gender is the embodiment of mental illness itself", "AsiaCel said:The female gender is the embodiment of mental illness itselfpoor dogs ffs ", "shoji said:The dogpill is by far the most brutal blackpillI know, it's fucked up. I truly feel alone in my pursuit of this subject. Even here people have a hard time buying into it, and yet when I've talked to the guys who are into the lifestyle they tell me that 1/20 women are open to fucking a dog if you bring the subject up, and that around half (HALF) of the women out there are willing to try it out once if you gently talk them into it and show them some videos. It's unbelievable stuff but I don't think anyone really believes me. One day I'm going to do independent research on the subject, I'm in too deep now and I just want to know the truth.", "this is deranged furry fap fantasy postings. youre a fucking retard. cut your balls off", "johnnyb said:this is deranged furry fap fantasy postings. youre a fucking retard. cut your balls offYou wish. It really does happen. Here's a video of a girl in a kennel fucking a dog, amateur stuff. I know it's hard to believe but it really happens. Girls aren't like guys, they have they're own world of fucked up kinks. Nancy Friday researched women's top sexual fantasies and sex with a dog was a top ten fantasy.Spoiler: NSFWAlexis in kennel (fixed audio)Same version as previously posted but with synchronized audio. Alexis in kennel (fixed audio) PornSocketwww.pornsocket.com", "dogpill said:You wish. It really does happen. Here's a video of a girl in a kennel fucking a dog, amateur stuff. I know it's hard to believe but it really happens. Girls aren't like guys, they have they're own world of fucked up kinks. Nancy Friday researched women's top sexual fantasies and sex with a dog was a top ten fantasy.Spoiler: NSFWAlexis in kennel (fixed audio)Same version as previously posted but with synchronized audio. Alexis in kennel (fixed audio) PornSocketwww.pornsocket.comLOL im sure you could also find videos of guys fucking chickens assholes. and an article saying guys like to fuck chickens assholes. so that means guys fantasize of fucking chickens? get real. you've been on the internet far to long my friend.", "I believe OP, because I've seen research results about female sexual fantasy. They are into rape, and indeed dog fucking.Not all of them, but many of them are ... If you can't accept the research, then you can't truly accept the black pill.", "johnnyb said:LOL im sure you could also find videos of guys fucking chickens assholes. and an article saying guys like to fuck chickens assholes. so that means guys fantasize of fucking chickens? get real. you've been on the internet far to long my friend.Actually I've looked at the data and both men and women prefer male dogs, and occasionally horses. Female animals are rarer in usage. Animals like chickens are virtually unheard of but there are videos of it. I don't really care if you believe me, go back to sleep.", "dogpill said:Actually I've looked at the data and both men and women prefer male dogs, and occasionally horses. Female animals are rarer in usage. Animals like chickens are virtually unheard of but there are videos of it. I don't really care if you believe me, go back to sleep.youre beyond delusional and a complete dumb fuck if you think chicks with unlimited access to chads would prefer to be fucking dogs. have you even spoken to another person in real life in the last five years? you are so autistic it is almost unbelievable. MAYBE like 5% of females would consider doing some weird shit with a dog, and out of that only 5% of those would consider putting it in their pussies.", "OP you outdid yourself.Great research, high IQ.The dogpill will not be forgotten", "I respect and admire your devotion to advancing the dogpill.", "johnnyb said:youre beyond delusional and a complete dumb fuck if you think chicks with unlimited access to chads would prefer to be fucking dogs. have you even spoken to another person in real life in the last five years? you are so autistic it is almost unbelievable. MAYBE like 5% of females would consider doing some weird shit with a dog, and out of that only 5% of those would consider putting it in their pussies.Look, I don't want to get sucked into another drawn out conversation about the numbers but you're making yours up out of nothing. No data, no research, just reactionary outrage. The actual figures put the estimate as low as 0.6% and as high as 3.6% but there's other research on this that suggests that people lie, and they lie by quite a bit on this question. The 0.6% was the lowest figure ever recorded because it was a low sample study exclusively of undergraduate females in the 90s , so girls in there early twenties, but it's an isolated demographic and again, women lie. These are low estimate numbers and not high ones. The actual rate of occurrence is virtually unknowable but it's much higher than people like you think who can't wrap their heads around the vast ocean of female sexual desires.Nancy Friday's infamous 1973 collection of women's sexual fantasies, My Secret Garden[4], had 23 fantasies that included animals. Out of 190.This was back in the 70's, before the explosion of Internet porn started morphing human sexual interests in new ways. Just look at how much the cuckold and BDSM scene has exploded. Girls watch porn too, in fact the consumers of porn that depicts violence against women is overwhelmingly watched by a female audience and not a male one.I've been researching this topic for a long time now, I've had conversations with people who do it. I'm sorry if this shit makes you angry, but you're basing your points on nothing but feelings.", "The dogpill barked at me.", "The dogpill is real, JFL if you can't face reality", "Hail The Bloatlord said:The dogpill is real, JFL if you can't face reality", "Vantablack dogpill of almost indigestible proportions, you keep on delivering OP.", "AsiaCel said:The female gender is the embodiment of mental illness itselffoids need to get sterilized", "Zoophilia degenerates.Errghh!!!Poor bastards.", "ManletHalfCurry said:Because most men are pathetic and think of females as these clean angelic creatures who can do nothing wrong.When in fact they are the most degenerate, disgusting, devious, deceitful, disloyal creatures on this shitty planet.People also make the mistake of thinking about it from their own perspective, because most humans are inherently narcissistic (Especially in the modern world) Oh I would never do that, sex with an animal? that's disgusting we like to think everyone else is like ourselves because it makes us feel that we belong. They don't realise that there are others who do not share their moral code.There's a lot of truth in this. And while most people are correct in their understanding of bestiality as being disgusting and deviant, what they don't understand is that women love disgusting, deviant sexual acts. Of course the question that will inevitably arise is if women like disgusting sex then why aren't they sleeping with ugly men? The reason for this is because they are hard wired to look to look at low value men as sexually repulsive in an immutable way because what they represent is bad genetics. It's an odd gambit but it's one that they all have. Disgusting sex and sex with ugly low value men are mutually exclusive acts. It's just how they're wired.The kind of disgusting sex I'm talking about that women love involves things like rape, sex with murders, gangbangs, torture, older man/daddy fetish, sex with other women, glory holes, bikers/drug dealers/gang members, convicted felons, incest, their boss, their best friend's boyfriend or dad, and yes, even dogs. Women can have multiple sexual fantasies, they can both want to be spit roasted by a Chad and a Tyrone one night and want to fuck a dog the next. Not all of them, but most women are very sexually fluid and can enjoy a very wide pallette of sex.Generally they are conflicted between their sexual identity and their personal and social identity. They are at odds with one another. A woman understands that who she is sexually has the potential to ruin who she is socially. If her sexual identity is discovered she runs the risk of being seen as a low value women. This is why it's hard to get them to open up about who they are sexually. They understand internally that there is a risk involved in this exposure and it splits their brain in half. This is why you see so many of them marching for sexual freedom, they want the opportunity to engage in their most lustfull desires and to be free and open about without having to take the social hit their reputations will inevitably receive.Men on the other hand are more likely to be normal sexually. Most guys just want to fuck good looking women, his ultimate fantasy is to fuck two good looking women at the same time. By exposing his sexual identity he risks very little because of how normal he basically is. There's no risk involved socially. Although I do think this is changing a bit, Internet porn is likely sliding many men away from this and getting them into weirder stuff like cuckold and tranny porn.", "i wonder if the dogs enjoy it", "physicscel said:i wonder if the dogs enjoy itI'd say yes, dumb animal just wants to feel pleasure, couldn't give a shit about morals or whatever; they have none.Dogs only care about food, fucking & bullying scared creatures.", "I'm in the process of cooking up the most hardcore, brutal fucking dogpill of all time. Like, this shit is the most atomic, devastating fucking thing you will ever read on the subject. Once you see this shit you will never, NEVER doubt the dogpill. It's apocalyptic. I started working on it days ago and I'm already getting results that blew my fucking mind. I don't know how much data I want to collect on this thing before I post it but it could take another week or two. Depending on how much of a slam dunk case I want to present to all the doubters. STAY TUNED", "How did I miss this post? ", "Fuck me that guide about fucking dogs from 1997 was brutal. The dogpill is real", "Modus Coperandi said:no manpls noi can't deal with thisi want to spit out the dogpill...", "chudur-budur said:How did I miss this post? Jfl", "Women are attarcted to power.Understand this well. Power. And nothing else.Emmasculate your men? they will go after high-T dogs", "I first had sexualcontact with a dog when I was 14, and it continued off and onuntil I went to college. At the time, I always felt ashamed orweird and guilty, and that kind of ruined the experience. After Igraduated from college and had my own place, I got another dog.One night, I came home drunk and horny and ended up messingaround with Max the way I had with my other dog before I'd lefthome. Afterwards, the guilty feelings set in again, but I startedthinking about it at another level. I've always been a frequentmasturbator, and I'd come to realize that it is a woman's perfectright to please her body...there was nothing to feel guilty aboutacknowledging that I was sexual creature. Along the same lines, Irealized that Max was also a sexual creature, only he didn't haveany way to relieve himself the way humans do. Therefore, I couldnot think of any reason it would be wrong for me to please Max aswell as myself...if he wanted to do it, how could it be wrong? I am done thanks", "Here's a picture of a girl who works as a vet tech tonguing a dog. Wonder who took the picture?", "Dogchads slaying left and right tbh, must be their great personality", "No shit, same thing with pedos working around kids.", "@SergeantIncel arrest this man", "Dogpill barked at me and chewed out my entire existence ", "What's the scientific reason for foids wanting to fuck dogs? Never understood this.", "The Abyss said:I'd say yes, dumb animal just wants to feel pleasure, couldn't give a shit about morals or whatever; they have none.Dogs only care about food, fucking & bullying scared creatures.Yes they are just following their instincts. But still it's an animal abuse because if there was a female dog, he would mount that bitch, not a human roastie. He has no other option. It's like forcing an incel to fuck a female chimp or gorilla.", "The guide to fucking dogs is gold", "epillepsy said:What's the scientific reason for foids wanting to fuck dogs? Never understood this.This is a great question but it's not an easy one to answer. Unfortunately scientists have pretty terrible theories on many questions regarding sexuality. All the ones on homosexuality that I've read are pretty awful, imo. I have given a lot of thought on a number of these questions and have my own theories on what's going on but I don't really want them associated with my dogpill incel account here. I don't mind trying to answer this one here though, but I should mention that I'm not 100% on all of it.The first and pretty one dimensional answer I could give is that there are many men out there who are turned on by a woman who engages in extremely deviant sexual behavior. If a girl does something like kissing or finger fucking another girl, a man who sees or hears about it can become instantly sexually attracted to her to the point where he overlooks other women he could potentially sleep with even if those women have more desirable traits. In this instance, a girl who might be classified as a boring, basic 5, plain jane type of women can be more sexually desirable to a high ranking Chad type of man who gets harder and more aroused with the filthy 5 than the perfect 10. So, bisexuality in this instance becomes a sexual strategy that can overlook less than perfect genetic features a girl might be anchored with and allow her to become sexually active with a man who might otherwise be considered out of her league. Same deal with bestiality, there are many men out there that get incredibly turned on at just the idea of a girl that would fuck a dog, I'd imagine many of these men would overlook less than stable traits in one of these girls for the opportunity to engage in an intense sexual experience.In terms of why women are interested in it, it's just because the thought of it turns them on. They don't know the why part of it themselves, they just react to what they consider to be hot sex and act accordingly. It's just something that's programmed into them through evolution.I think that this answer is pretty simplistic and that there's much more to it than just this, but it's all I really feel like writing before I make this too long. Basically, it's complicated. Many abnormal sexual practices like homosexuality, bestiality, and incest are considered to be terrible acts that if practiced broadly would lead to the death of a species, however that doesn't mean that these risky acts don't come with hidden advantages most wouldn't consider. Risky sex tends to produce a rush in the individual that bypasses the logical part of the brain that says I shouldn't be doing this in order to flood them with sexual desire and get them to take a chance they ordinarily wouldn't do. That rush can get them to do things like cheat on their spouse, sleep with their dad, or blow a dog.", "dogpill said:This is a great question but it's not an easy one to answer. Unfortunately scientists have pretty terrible theories on many questions regarding sexuality. All the ones on homosexuality that I've read are pretty awful, imo. I have given a lot of thought on a number of these questions and have my own theories on what's going on but I don't really want them associated with my dogpill incel account here. I don't mind trying to answer this one here though, but I should mention that I'm not 100% on all of it.The first and pretty one dimensional answer I could give is that there are many men out there who are turned on by a woman who engages in extremely deviant sexual behavior. If a girl does something like kissing or finger fucking another girl, a man who sees or hears about it can become instantly sexually attracted to her to the point where he overlooks other women he could potentially sleep with even if those women have more desirable traits. In this instance, a girl who might be classified as a boring, basic 5, plain jane type of women can be more sexually desirable to a high ranking Chad type of man who gets harder and more aroused with the filthy 5 than the perfect 10. So, bisexuality in this instance becomes a sexual strategy that can overlook less than perfect genetic features a girl might be anchored with and allow her to become sexually active with a man who might otherwise be considered out of her league. Same deal with bestiality, there are many men out there that get incredibly turned on at just the idea of a girl that would fuck a dog, I'd imagine many of these men would overlook less than stable traits in one of these girls for the opportunity to engage in an intense sexual experience.In terms of why women are interested in it, it's just because the thought of it turns them on. They don't know the why part of it themselves, they just react to what they consider to be hot sex and act accordingly. It's just something that's programmed into them through evolution.I think that this answer is pretty simplistic and that there's much more to it than just this, but it's all I really feel like writing before I make this too long. Basically, it's complicated. Many abnormal sexual practices like homosexuality, bestiality, and incest are considered to be terrible acts that if practiced broadly would lead to the death of a species, however that doesn't mean that these risky acts don't come with hidden advantages most wouldn't consider. Risky sex tends to produce a rush in the individual that bypasses the logical part of the brain that says I shouldn't be doing this in order to flood them with sexual desire and get them to take a chance they ordinarily wouldn't do. That rush can get them to do things like cheat on their spouse, sleep with their dad, or blow a dog.Thanks for taking the time to respond.It is a complex issue. While other facets of foid behavior can easily be explained through evolutionary science, the reasons for this rampant bestiality among women (especially Caucasian women?) continues to elude me as a final piece of the puzzle.Your explanation explains a lot of the more exhibitionist forms of the dogpill -- like bestiality porn-- and also explains donkey shows in Tijuana, etc, as a kind of female peacocking to attract degenerate chads. But it's my understanding that a lot of foids fuck dogs in their spare time, without any sort of audience. Discounting the percentage of foids who are fucking dogs for practice or as a dry run for their real performance, it's hard to explain foids' sexual attraction to dogs without also asking, Why not fuck incels or ugly men? if the taboo aspect of dog fucking is such a turn-on to you?I don't really have an answer, but I think this is what makes me most angry: any logic that you apply toward dog fucking being okay can also be applied to incel fucking being okay.", "epillepsy said:But it's my understanding that a lot of foids fuck dogs in their spare time, without any sort of audience. Discounting the percentage of foids who are fucking dogs for practice or as a dry run for their real performance, it's hard to explain foids' sexual attraction to dogs without also asking, Why not fuck incels or ugly men? if the taboo aspect of dog fucking is such a turn-on to you?I don't really have an answer, but I think this is what makes me most angry: any logic that you apply toward dog fucking being okay can also be applied to incel fucking being okay.Sure, women fuck dogs in private mostly but the same is also true with women who sleep with other women, they do it without an audience of men around. They do it because it's hot for them, not for evolutionary reasons. The whole point of sex is to procreate but that's not why we do it, we do it because it feels good. If you have sex with a condom you're going against the purpose of the act from an evolutionary perspective but you would still do it to fulfill the pleasure principle.", "The depravity of modern foids truly knows no bounds. Your posts are too brutal for me", "epillepsy said:Thanks for taking the time to respond.It is a complex issue. While other facets of foid behavior can easily be explained through evolutionary science, the reasons for this rampant bestiality among women (especially Caucasian women?) continues to elude me as a final piece of the puzzle.Your explanation explains a lot of the more exhibitionist forms of the dogpill -- like bestiality porn-- and also explains donkey shows in Tijuana, etc, as a kind of female peacocking to attract degenerate chads.But it's my understanding that a lot of foids fuck dogs in their spare time, without any sort of audience. Discounting the percentage of foids who are fucking dogs for practice or as a dry run for their real performance, it's hard to explain foids' sexual attraction to dogs without also asking, Why not fuck incels or ugly men? if the taboo aspect of dog fucking is such a turn-on to you?I don't really have an answer, but I think this is what makes me most angry: any logic that you apply toward dog fucking being okay can also be applied to incel fucking being okay.Dog fucking;No pregnancy risk.Repeated ejaculations with no down time.The knot.Boundless energy.Primal rough fucking.Desire to be treated like a fuckhole that they wouldn't openly say for fear of judgement or shame.No emotional attachment to a dog like they would with a human that later leaves them, cheats or they grow to resent each other.Immoral aspect kink turning them on.Forward growth of a dog.Being dominated by a strong Male to the point they'd physically struggle to prevent that dick getting in their once pinned down.No awkward after thoughts/talk as it's a simpleton being no different than a dildo mounted on a piston machine.Shape of dickGirth.Basically they're embracing the primitive inner part of a human, the animal instincts that have been there since day 1 long before morality, laws & society put a collar on our neck in the form of a suit & moral standards that would get us kicked out of the group today (social media for example never goes away, what you did in the past haunts you now), they're receiving sex the way cavemen did it, raw & primal. The animalistic woman responds to that in body while her conscience says no I'm a strong woman, a human.Nothing turns a woman off more than a soyboy faggot reassuring her, oh I'm sorry, I didn't hurt you did I, oh does this feel good, are you ok, I hope I'm pleasing you.", "The dogpill has the power to destroy universes", "The Abyss said:Dog fucking;No pregnancy risk.Repeated ejaculations with no down time.The knot.Boundless energy.Primal rough fucking.Desire to be treated like a fuckhole that they wouldn't openly say for fear of judgement or shame.No emotional attachment to a dog like they would with a human that later leaves them, cheats or they grow to resent each other.Immoral aspect kink turning them on.Forward growth of a dog.Being dominated by a strong Male to the point they'd physically struggle to prevent that dick getting in their once pinned down.No awkward after thoughts/talk as it's a simpleton being no different than a dildo mounted on a piston machine.Shape of dickGirth.Basically they're embracing the primitive inner part of a human, the animal instincts that have been there since day 1 long before morality, laws & society put a collar on our neck in the form of a suit & moral standards that would get us kicked out of the group today (social media for example never goes away, what you did in the past haunts you now), they're receiving sex the way cavemen did it, raw & primal. The animalistic woman responds to that in body while her conscience says no I'm a strong woman, a human.Nothing turns a woman off more than a soyboy faggot reassuring her, oh I'm sorry, I didn't hurt you did I, oh does this feel good, are you ok, I hope I'm pleasing you.I never realized that the knot applied during human/dog coitus, but it makes sense. That clenching moment when she can't disengage her vagina from the dog's penis must arouse them, simply because she's pinned down in place and powerless. It's like a rape fantasy. Foids simply can't transcend their animal instincts, whereas I've never had the slightest desire to fuck a dog.", "epillepsy said:I never realized that the knot applied during human/dog coitus, but it makes sense. That clenching moment when she can't disengage her vagina from the dog's penis must arouse them, simply because she's pinned down in place and powerless. It's like a rape fantasy. Foids simply can't transcend their animal instincts, whereas I've never had the slightest desire to fuck a dog.The knot is very real, women love that thickness. Probably some level of arousal from the possibility of someone walking in & she can't cover up the act. The dog is in control & she's a bitch along for the ride.", "I still can't believe that this type of shit is getting accepted by our societies more and more everyday", "Here's a post made by a member of the bestiality forum zooville, she's the girl in the video I mentioned in the original post. The video is no longer up the dead link there but you can see it here. In her own words you can read about how she went from working with dogs to having sex with one. Kennel Queen, Kennel Girl, Vet, Caring Vet?????Who am I, why did I make that video??!! My heart races as I type this. I never imaged to be well known, or famous in the porn community much less a taboo community. I never imagined exposing myself in such a raw way like I did the moment I uploaded my video. Yet I’ve learned so much since that day. I learned what real beast work and porn was when I was fresh out of high school. I was 18, and I saw a tumblr post and I just couldn’t peel my eyes away. I had learned who cannibal cupcake was and I was speechless. I was not quiet to sure what I had just watched. And as time went on I grew more fond of the bond I was watching. Extremely influenced in that time of my life I began to really enjoy watching such passion. I never imagined having sex with a dog. It had never crossed my mind even though I enjoyed watching bestiality porn. I worked in the vet field, yes that is a correct statement. And as time goes on from when my video was made there are a lot of stories and media of what I actually did. I was never a veterinarian. And yes that’s a huge jump from where I was at. I was kind of the bottom of the food chain and nobody really saw me. I worked at night alone. And even then I never thought about actually interacting with a dog. I just did my job. I stayed quiet. About 3 months into a new job a lot of things happened in my life one was pure exhaustion, working nights had isolated me from reality, there’s nothing like animals around you who look at you because you feed them they are Truly the funniest animals in the world. I remember one night everything seemed different, it was darker then normal. Quieter then normal. A co worker kept me warned about this dog who kept marking his territory on the outside of his cage. Keep a towel on the ground because he continually marks his territory. I remember going to do my round and check every one. It was 12 am and I did not have enough coffee or energy drinks for how exhausted I was. Plugging through I picked up the towel and put it in the laundry, mopping up, yet oddly he didn’t pee, next to feed and fill his water. Usually he’s the first to A. Pee on us as assistants, or B. Knock his water over. So as I’m changing everything instead of his normal behavior to all of the techs and assistants, I thought it was really odd he was acting so different, jumping on me, spinning in circles, rubbing on me like he was. I remember not thinking anything of it, and as I was doing laundry I kept thinking about and his behavior. Couple hours later into my shift I went back in there again. Still no sign of marking his territory I went in to check his blanket and bent over, he instantly got on top of me. I felt uncomfortable, I wasn’t really sure what to think at first, so I left his cage and kept about doing my work, when I kept thinking about how eager he was, my blood started pumping, I could feel myself becoming aroused at the thought of him wanting me. I tried shaking the feeling until it too strong, I talked to myself about it, I thought about it and almost talked myself out of it, then I thought you know what, fuck it. I’m gonna try. I didn’t really think about it. I just went into his kennel and pulled my pants down, it happened so fast, I don’t know what brought me to even get my camera out. But some part of me did. I remember trying to set everything up while he was on top of me, I remember need to really lower my front half of my body for him. He was a natural, he just knew exactly what to do, his aim was spot on and before I knew it, faster then I could blink he was Humping me faster then I could process what was happening, feeling him pulse and thrust away, his thrust took my breathe away, he was so strong, he was so deterred. which later I found out, dogs don’t usually mount like that. It takes a lot more effort then just bending over and getting lucky. Any ways....I remember my vagina throbbing I was so turned on, I was in shock I think. I remember feeling him cumming, I remember how hott he was compared to a human. He had so much control and so much dominance, to be used for his pleasure, there was just something so raw and passionate I needed to get it on camera, I remember getting done and being so scared, almost ashamed, like I couldn’t believe I was able to indudlge in what became such a dirty pleasure. Getting up putting myself together I could smell his cum, it was distinct, I remember peeing and just watching the cum pour out of me. A lot of blogs and post I read that have gone on the internet, (oh yes I see what you guys are saying), the video I posted, that there was more to it, that was it, 1 minute 23 seconds. And from there people have taken in. That was all I got, minus some really blurry pictures. Originally it was just something I shared with my spouse. In reality, when I made that video, I held onto it for 3 months before posting it. Little did I know how easy it was for someone to Just take something and use it for themselves. I mean, I’m a small town girl, I know close to nothing at the time of internet and how liked bestiality is. I never imagined making a video that hundreds of thousands of people would see all over the world. I have stayed quiet for almost 2 years now because I don’t want to be known like that. I care about every person I’ve talked to. And I demand of a level of respect when I talk to my followers. When I posted this video it was because I am not scared of others judgements. Since then I have learned a lot about the internet. And I’ve read a lot of what you guys have to say. I took something that happened as a first time and I created an empire. ( I like to joke around with my close followers). I say I’ve created an empire because my secret to keep you quiet is learning to respect my followers for respecting me. Because I don’t want my content plastered world wide. I’ve learned I don’t like the big scene. I like having individual relations with my followers. I don’t like the stories people come up with. I like to keep some mystery. I like to be respected. So I don’t get mad when my stuff is stolen I just blast you to my followers and stalk the hell out of you and report you and have your stuff continually reported. I’ve learned to let it go. Because I feel bad for the rest of the followers who suffer from those who don’t have respect to follow rules.People tend to forget I’m a real person. I’m not a porn star that is set up with a contract and all these things. I have solely responded to every message and talked with every person. I’ve built relations with each person. I would never have a thought in my mind to ever harm, embraces, judge, lie or scam some one. However I believe social media has ruined our view to not judge some one. And to believe what you see at face value. Which leads into actually being hacked by Some one who I’ll just leave that name out. Which was a whole other ordeal. I remember being like a puppy watching these big time stars. Thinking am I really that popular (flask backs to high school hahaha) oh lord. I remember still being clueless, and dumb I guess or gullable would be better. I know I would never do something to another human like she did to me. Honestly a scam of a waste of space. I run my taboo community by myself. I love supporting others and I enjoy being a part of this community. I have grown so much since I made that video, and I’ve gained many different perspective from you guys. All I ask is if you don’t like me don’t talk to me. Don’t talk about me. If you want to talk to me respect me. And whatever you do. Don’t share my content around. If it’s not my kennel video. Report it. Thanks to every person whose supported me this far. ", "Can anyone confirm if those links are safe? It’s for research purposes.", "The Abyss said:Dog fucking;No pregnancy risk.Repeated ejaculations with no down time.The knot.Boundless energy.Primal rough fucking.Desire to be treated like a fuckhole that they wouldn't openly say for fear of judgement or shame.No emotional attachment to a dog like they would with a human that later leaves them, cheats or they grow to resent each other.Immoral aspect kink turning them on.Forward growth of a dog.Being dominated by a strong Male to the point they'd physically struggle to prevent that dick getting in their once pinned down.No awkward after thoughts/talk as it's a simpleton being no different than a dildo mounted on a piston machine.Shape of dickGirth.Basically they're embracing the primitive inner part of a human, the animal instincts that have been there since day 1 long before morality, laws & society put a collar on our neck in the form of a suit & moral standards that would get us kicked out of the group today (social media for example never goes away, what you did in the past haunts you now), they're receiving sex the way cavemen did it, raw & primal. The animalistic woman responds to that in body while her conscience says no I'm a strong woman, a human.Nothing turns a woman off more than a soyboy faggot reassuring her, oh I'm sorry, I didn't hurt you did I, oh does this feel good, are you ok, I hope I'm pleasing you." ]
SeriousWealthcels what has money given you that made you happy?
[ "Seriously, what are some good copes that money has allowed you to get so you can be happy?Im not sure some things are worth doing alone such as traveling. But what things could you now buy that improve your mood? Even if temporary.This would be pure motivation for me, someone that does not have much.", "I don't have money, but I know that if I had a million dollars I'd be the happiest man on Earth. I'd be able to stay NEET for the rest of my life in this country. I wouldn't have to worry about bills, work or any other normalfag problem. I'd buy a new guitar and a car. The rest I'd save or invest.", "I'm a poorcel but I would have probably travelmaxxed tbh. Most likely buy a fancy, expensive car since I'm a big fan of cars in general. And if I had money for life, I would have NEETmaxxed to oblivion.", "I kinda have a lot of money. We have a hot tub in our backyard which I enjoy relaxing in by myself and listen to music", "anon said:I don't have money, but I know that if I had a million dollars I'd be the happiest man on Earth. I'd be able to stay NEET for the rest of my life in this country. I wouldn't have to worry about bills, work or any other normalfag problem. I'd buy a new guitar and a car. The rest I'd save or invest.If per say, you didnt make millions and instead made thousands only to spend on yourself. Would you still be fairly happy?", "Eskimocel said:If per say, you didnt make millions and instead made thousands only to spend on yourself. Would you still be fairly happy?Maybe temporarily because thousands is nothing. I can ask my dad right now for that kind of money and he'd give it to me. I want to be NEET until I die. That's all I want from this life.", "Materialistic goods is an amazing cope.", "anon said:Maybe temporarily because thousands is nothing. I can ask my dad right now for that kind of money and he'd give it to me. I want to be NEET until I die. That's all I want from this life.Not thousands as in 1k or 5k. I am talking about over 20k per say, how would that be for you and would it make a major difference or it still wouldnt be enough?", "Eskimocel said:Not thousands as in 1k or 5k. I am talking about over 20k per say, how would that be for you and would it make a major difference or it still wouldnt be enough?It wouldn't make much of a difference other than a new guitar and maybe a car. I can't be NEET for life with just 20k.", "Didn’t do Elliot any good..", "anon said:I don't have money, but I know that if I had a million dollars I'd be the happiest man on Earth. I'd be able to stay NEET for the rest of my life in this country. I wouldn't have to worry about bills, work or any other normalfag problem. I'd buy a new guitar and a car. The rest I'd save or invest.I don’t think a mere million is enough in these degenerate days.You’ll probably need at least 20 mill at minimum to get by in NEET mode and live somewhat reasonably satisfied until you’re pushing daisies", "Phallusy said:I don’t think a mere million is enough in these degenerate days.I'm Croatian. Trust me, it's enough.", "If I wish a rich piece of shit I would buy:Top, end of the line gaming computer with the best & expensive parts and multiple monitors A gaming headset with a high-quality micA microphoneNumerous amounts of canned food & junk foodLots of gunsAfter that has been done, I can just NEETmax until I die.", "anon said:I want to be NEET until I die. That's all I want from this life.I too just want enough money that I can afford to do nothing but enjoy living, having thousands just means you still have to be a part of the rat race, and you'll still have to interact with normies a lot, a millionaire can go an entire week without even having to talk to a normie and still enjoy great food, entertainment and even sex (paid for of course).", "Eskimocel said:you can be happy?I cant be happyBut videogames are nice.", "seija said:If I wish a rich piece of shit I would buy:Top, end of the line gaming computer with the best & expensive parts and multiple monitorsA gaming headset with a high-quality micA microphoneNumerous amounts of canned food & junk foodLots of gunsAfter that has been done, I can just NEETmax until I die.LifeFuel.In fact.. this actually seems and sounds like a realistic option.", "seija said:If I wish a rich piece of shit I would buy:Top, end of the line gaming computer with the best & expensive parts and multiple monitorsA gaming headset with a high-quality micA microphoneNumerous amounts of canned food & junk foodLots of gunsAfter that has been done, I can just NEETmax until I die.If you became a millionaire I'm pretty sure after a few months of gaming you'd lose interest in it, I lost my spark for gaming years ago, because I started to look around and realize that everyone else was enjoying living life, and I was stuck behind a screen trying to escape, and no matter how many in game achievements and points I unlock, it isn't going to get me anything I want in real life or give me any actual enjoymentAfter playing games for a few months without end, you'll likely get bored of it as you'll realize you have all this money and free time, and there are a lot more enjoyable things for you to do, you'll start doing those things and gaming will become a minor pass time in your life that you do every now and thenAfter while gaming will start to feel monotonous because you'll realize its pretty much all the same shit, and hours and hours of your life are racing by with you still not enjoying any of the things you actually want, if I could go back in time I'd have replaced a significant amount of gaming hours with ours spent building skills like graphics design, or something, really wasted a lot of time gaming.I would only buy the guns if I lived in a house in a rich low crime area, and even then I will install a panic room in the house and that's where most all the guns will be stored", "BlkPillPres said:After playing games for a few months without end, you'll likely get bored of it as you'll realize you have all this money and free time, and there are a lot more enjoyable things for you to do.I am trying to find some things I can enjoy by myself, but ultimately most things are best done with others. I would figure people want some alone time after spending alot of time with friends, but for us the is the complete opposite. Obviously this isnt possible, so I am trying to figure out what things I could enjoy by myself.", "High quality sex doll.I don't even fuck her that much, just having her tits rub against my chest and a voluptuous booty is more than a good enough cope for me. I used to be an escortcel but honestly the sex doll is so much better than paying for occasional sex with a real woman.I also brought my own house, which gives me my privacy. Much better than an apartment because you can make as much noise as you want, and I have full control over what I want to do to my house.What else? I can afford as much booze as I want, but that is a shit-tier cope. I actualtually just got some drugs today from my doctor to help me cut back on my drinking because of how much of a shit tier cope booze is.I do have a nice gaymen PC, but I stopped caring about gaming as I aged. I do have an HTC vive but VR is too clunky to be enjoyable for me at the moment. I'll buy the wireless addon and knuclkes controller when they release later this year, tho. Maybe that is all I need to fully enjoy VR. I dunno, point is that I can afford to throw away money on shit like this.", "Not exactly wealthcel... $30-35k a yearNice food. Cooking is a good cope. I love making pasta, burritos, rice dishes. Not an expert cook but skill level enough for me to enjoy my food. I also enjoy sampling food around town. Video games. Escortcelling a couple times a month. Beer and liquor couple times a month-----I quit the escortcelling, alcohol, and video games since I became a Christian. Replaced it with trading stocks and just going to parks and hiking trails. Copes are good ", "Eskimocel said:I am trying to find some things I can enjoy by myself, but ultimately most things are best done with others. I would figure people want some alone time after spending alot of time with friends, but for us the is the complete opposite. Obviously this isnt possible, so I am trying to figure out what things I could enjoy by myself.1. Escortcel2. Things that interest youFor me those things would be the few things that always seemed interesting to me to try and you can also make money off of themSoftware development (not for a company, I want ot create my own personal software to sell online based on whatever I come up with)Mining (saw this video recently and knew I would enjoy something like this, its something you can do alone without disruption or dealing with normies, because its so obscure, and you can possibly make money from it)Using metal detectors at beaches and other places (another obscure fringe thing that allows you not to be disrupted)Etcblackcel said:I don't even fuck her that much, just having her tits rub against my chest and a voluptuous booty is more than a good enough cope for me. I used to be an escortcel but honestly the sex doll is so much better than paying for occasional sex with a real woman.I also want to try a sex doll, but I doubt it would be better than being with a real woman, especially for me, my years of hating women has made me somewhat sexually sadisitc, and I want to see the reactions on a whores face as I go into her, her frantic breathing, her wincing at the feeling of my touch, knowing that she doesn't really want to fuck me, but a deal has been struck so she just has to bare with it and think about Chad to cope as I ravage her holesSorry dude, a doll just isn't going to cut it, also another aspect about doll owning that isn't talked about and will be annoying to maintain, is warming the doll up, I hear guys talking about all kinds of tools and methods to do that shit, just to get it to feel like a living humans body, and that just seems ridiculous to meBetter to just move to a country where prostitution is cheap and fuck whores every week than spending thousands on a lifeless doll, if I just wanted to stick my dick into a hole, I'd just buy a flesh light, a doll is literally just a half measure, you are wasting your time, you know full well what your mind is craving if you are buying a doll, a more realistic and interactive sexual experience, and anything other than sex will always fall very short of thatEspecially for sexual sadistsGhost said:I quit the escortcelling, alcohol, and video games since I became a Christian.", "BlkPillPres said:also another aspect about doll owning that isn't talked about and will be annoying to maintain, is warming the doll up, I hear guys talking about all kinds of tools and methods to do that shit, just to get it to feel like a living humans body, and that just seems ridiculous to meHonestly all I do to clean her is give her a sponge bath once every two weeks. If I fuck her I douche out her vag with soap and water and stick a tampon in for it to dry. Really isn't that much work and she typically smells cleaner than I do. I used to do the whole baby oil + cornstarch baby powder treatment, but really a light dusting is all that is needed for the skin to feel satisfactory enough for me. This entire process takes maybe 20 or so minutes to do.The hardest part is if I want to keep her hair looking good, which requires me to shampoo and condition it, which is something I do only once a month. I brush the hair for about 30 min while I sit on the computer. If I don't do this it gets matted down, which isn't that big of a deal but I like to run my fingers through her hair.But I do agree that a sex doll isn't worth it if you managed to train yourself to get off on the reactions of the woman. My imagination is good enough for me and I actually prefer it this way since I no longer need to give a shit about how the foid reacts to my presence to get off.", "blackcel said:Honestly all I do to clean her is give her a sponge bath once every two weeks. If I fuck her I douche out her vag with soap and water and stick a tampon in for it to dry. Really isn't that much work and she typically smells cleaner than I do. I used to do the whole baby oil + cornstarch baby powder treatment, but really a light dusting is all that is needed for the skin to feel satisfactory enough for me. This entire process takes maybe 20 or so minutes to do.The hardest part is if I want to keep her hair looking good, which requires me to shampoo and condition it, which is something I do only once a month. I brush the hair for about 30 min while I sit on the computer.JFL dude I'm wealthmaxxing so that I have less work to do in life, this sounds like a lot of annoying micromanaging and very time consuming just to enjoy a single orgasm, in a way you've kind of made me appreciate whores more as they do all of that shit for me, now I feel like I'm paying them to practice hygiene so I can enjoy fucking them, it seems even more worth the money now Like dude seriously how do you even think all of this is even worth it at that point, I don't understand how you guys get so used to all that maintenance, what makes it weirder is you guys refer to the dolls as herLike you did in your initial post:blackcel said:I don't even fuck her that muchIt makes you sound deluded, its an it, not a herAlso its a good thing you don't fuck it that much, else you'd have that much more maintenance added on, if I got a doll that shit is going to become shit tier real quick, I'm not shampooing no dolls hair and shit, what the hell, you might as well pay a surrogate mother to bear your child and raise a kid if you are going to do all of that crap, also how weird is it that you have to buy tampons, I'm sure the cashiers all assume its for your GF/wife or something.I don't see how a guy goes from escortcelling to this, you must have had some bad experiences", "if i was multi millionaire i would be happy, 100% grantee it", "BlkPillPres said:[stuff]I don't think cleaning her is time consuming at all. You seem to make it a point to become detached from the doll. I call it a her cause I obviously fuck her, and since the doll looks like a human it is enough for me to call it a her. Yes, I am ultra aware that she is a doll but that doesn't stop me from calling it a her. I honestly don't care if anyone refers to my doll as an it or her, but to me it is just more natural to gender it as a female.I prefer t he doll over an escort because I can have the doll whenever I want. Escorts require more effort and money, which gets tiresome after a while. It is a preference, but it is a preference that I think most men will develop after enough years of escortcelling.", "If I were a richcel I would ascend through surgeries and become the next human Ken doll", "blackcel said:Escorts require more effort and moneyThe irony (especially for the effort part)A high end doll costs around $2000 plus, and that's me low balling it a shit ton, more like $3000+ especially to get all the accessories that make maintenance easy, like the appropriate lube for the specific kind of silicone/material used, a stand for positioning, etcEven if you don't go for the accessories, add in the maintenanes costs of shampoo, conditioner, tampons, etc. Your regiment isn't even as expensive or extreme as I've heard some other doll users explain, so maybe its cheaper for youYou literally have to put effort in to maintain it, there is no effort involved with fucking a whore other than showing up to where they are, and payingThe only upside I can see to a doll is zero risk of std's and sti's, so I guess that's a huge plus, but I think I'm going to have to fuck myself out of wanting whores, may take a while to get to the point where a doll seems like the better option.", "BlkPillPres said:You literally have to put effort in to maintain it, there is no effort involved with fucking a whore other than showing up to where they are, and payingThe whore isn't goint to spend the night with you or let you fuck and/or fondle her whenever you want. That is the biggest issue for me. When it comes to an escort I have to be pepared to fuck her and if I don't nut I feel as if I wasted my money. There is also the other small bullshit that the escort may nto want such as kissing her, or maybe some rough play. I can do whatever I want to a doll and not even feel cheated if I dont feel aroused enough to bust a nut. Things like that is what I consider valuable. The only step above that is having an actual wife who accepts my mannerisms, which is 100% unobtainable for an incel such as myself.", "blackcel said:The whore isn't goint to spend the night with youWhy would you want her to, you guys are looking for wives/GF's, not whores to fuckblackcel said:or let you fuck and/or fondle her whenever you want.You can do that, you'd just have to pay each time lolblackcel said:When it comes to an escort I have to be prepared to fuck her and if I don't nut I feel as if I wasted my money.If you aren't horny enough to nut, then why did you bother go see a whore, this is why I plan on doing nofap for some months before I start to escortcel again, I want to get my moneys worth, I'll need a mental reset from porn for thatblackcel said:There is also the other small bullshit that the escort may nto want such as kissing herI have also experienced this, my solution is for my next time, so simply visit a different kind of establishment, or go to a place where I know I can get rough and demand kissing, and she won't refuse. You are acting like this is common practice, it isn't you kinda got gamed, this happened to me too, small shit like kissing is supposed to be included, some like to refuse because it feels sacred to them, but I'm not having that shitblackcel said:The only step above that is having an actual wife who accepts my mannerisms, which is 100% unobtainable for an incel such as myself.Like I said, guys like you are looking for a wife/GF experience, the reason why you are disappointed with escorting is because it wasn't for you to begin with, you are going into it with the wrong mindset, so it will never be satisfying, but neither will a dollI'd recommend that you try and islammaxx with your wealth, move to a strict islamic country where there are legal loopholes to purchase a wife from her father, and get a wife who you can get to grow to love you since you are her source of sustenance and protectionStop torturing yourself, based on how you speak, you and I both know a doll is not enough, you are coping, trying and find a loophole to get a wife who has no choice but to be faithful, the only feasible one I know of is islammaxxing though, and you will have to sacrifice certain freedoms to get it, no more pork, or alcohol, etc, you'll have to pretend to be a true believer of the islamic faith, etcGood night", "BlkPillPres said:you are coping,Yes.The doll is a good enough cope for me. That is the point.", "blackcel said:Yes.The doll is a good enough cope for me. That is the point.Did you read the last part, about islammaxxing, really and truly you just want a GF/wife, and the only feasible way you could really get that and not lose it, is in a strict islamic community", "BlkPillPres said:Did you read the last part, about islammaxxing, really and truly you just want a GF/wife, and the only feasible way you could really get that and not lose it, is in a strict islamic communityYes.Sounds like a cope on top of another cope.", "blackcel said:Sounds like a cope on top of another cope.In what way?, as in its not feasible or as in it won't last", "Insomniac said:Didn’t do Elliot any good..Even so I’d rather be rich than have only a thousand or so after all of my expenses have had their way with my account", "BlkPillPres said:In what way?, as in its not feasible or as in it won't lastI suppose the thing is that am I fine with my manufactured fantasy or do I want to sacrifice a bit to have something that is realistic. There is also the fact that if I honestly try to go for something realistic and end up with nothing (i.e. devoting myself to a community and having no foids show interest in me, leaving me where I started).Tbh I am completely okay with the fantasy I created for myself.", "blackcel said:Tbh I am completely okay with the fantasy I created for myself.To quote you:blackcel said:Sounds like a cope on top of another cope.lol", "BlkPillPres said:The irony (especially for the effort part)A high end doll costs around $2000 plus, and that's me low balling it a shit ton, more like $3000+ especially to get all the accessories that make maintenance easy, like the appropriate lube for the specific kind of silicone/material used, a stand for positioning, etcEven if you don't go for the accessories, add in the maintenanes costs of shampoo, conditioner, tampons, etc. Your regiment isn't even as expensive or extreme as I've heard some other doll users explain, so maybe its cheaper for youYou literally have to put effort in to maintain it, there is no effort involved with fucking a whore other than showing up to where they are, and payingThe only upside I can see to a doll is zero risk of std's and sti's, so I guess that's a huge plus, but I think I'm going to have to fuck myself out of wanting whores, may take a while to get to the point where a doll seems like the better option.When do you plan on escortcelling and do you have reservations about falling in love with the escort? You said you have yellowfever so will you go to Thailand or Philippines?", "If I had money I wouldn't be Incel, and there's plenty of Richcels even in this thread who aren't Incel. If you can optimize your money to looksmaxx and locationmaxx you can easily escape Inceldom. I'd probably say wealth and status are more important if you know how to utilize them, and most people who don't utilize it are larping fakecels or are legitimate brainlets who got their wealth through luck.", "BlkPillPres said:MiningDamn, that looks so nice. I have an archeologist relative so i've been to places like that before but i only watched them capturing stuff.", "The difference between a poorcel and a wealthcel?The first is called weird the other excentric", "BrendioEEE said:If I had money I wouldn't be Incel, and there's plenty of Richcels even in this thread who aren't Incel. If you can optimize your money to looksmaxx and locationmaxx you can easily escape Inceldom. I'd probably say wealth and status are more important if you know how to utilize them, and most people who don't utilize it are larping fakecels or are legitimate brainlets who got their wealth through luck.This, richcel=volcel in my opinion. You can escortcel as much as you want which technically already makes you volcel if you don't participate in that because it literally allows you to not be celibate. You can looksmaxx in all sorts of ways (plastic surgery, using estrogen-blockers and steroids and that kind of stuff to become masculine and ripped, anti-acne medication, anti-balding medication). And you could go to SEA or some other place where foids are still kind of loyal and find yourself a good woman to betabuxx if you're into that (no, betabuxxing is not cucked if the foid is a virgin and actually does what a wife is supposed to do). ", "Blacktarpill said:Damn, that looks so nice. I have an archeologist relative so i've been to places like that before but i only watched them capturing stuff.Does your relative show you any of the things he finds?", "Ghost said:video games since I became a Christian.I get the others but is it a sin to play games now?", "Ethnic Natsoc said:This, richcel=volcel in my opinion.You can escortcel as much as you want which technically already makes you volcel if you don't participate in that because it literally allows you to not be celibate.You can looksmaxx in all sorts of ways (plastic surgery, using estrogen-blockers and steroids and that kind of stuff to become masculine and ripped, anti-acne medication, anti-balding medication).And you could go to SEA or some other place where foids are still kind of loyal and find yourself a good woman to betabuxx if you're into that (no, betabuxxing is not cucked if the foid is a virgin and actually does what a wife is supposed to do).Not even just that, you don't even have to cope with finding someone in SEA, there's still plenty of Rural areas you could locationmaxx to, you don't even have to display your wealth in a way that attracts golddiggers to betabuxx, and if you don't know how to do that or differentiate between attracting a woman using wealth naturally, and attracting a golddigger you're just a brainlet. I'd say wealth is the biggest determining factor of being a fakecel, because I have even seen 6/10 looking guys, who are stuck in hypergamous leftist hellholes where even subhuman fat old obese women reject them, men who are much better than I am, people who would be shocked to even consider them an Incel, but they are, because of where they live, and because they lack money, and ways to make money.", "VirtueSignaller said:When do you plan on escortcelling and do you have reservations about falling in love with the escort? You said you have yellowfever so will you go to Thailand or Philippines?Dude I don't even believe in love and I'm not a man that can be influenced by emotions, I'm pretty cold hearted, I'm not the kind of guy that could ever fall in love because I know it doesn't existThere's this user on the site who has spoken about going to either of those countries you mentioned frequently and he's an incel (I'm assuming), so I'm going to go with his advice and ask for guidance on where to go, rules, etc.Blacktarpill said:Damn, that looks so nice. I have an archeologist relative so i've been to places like that before but i only watched them capturing stuff.Dude go for it, see if you can get in on it, stuff like this always looked so fun and interesting to me, I always wanted to own a metal detector too, and just go around to various places, corners of beaches not frequented, etc and search for stuff, a lot of the time people even find lost jewelry, which you can take to a pawn shop and get some quick cash for, hobbies like these are fun and profitable", "BlkPillPres said:Dude I don't even believe in love and I'm not a man that can be influenced by emotions, I'm pretty cold hearted, I'm not the kind of guy that could ever fall in love because I know it doesn't existThere's this user on the site who has spoken about going to either of those countries you mentioned frequently and he's an incel (I'm assuming), so I'm going to go with his advice and ask for guidance on where to go, rules, etc.Dude go for it, see if you can get in on it, stuff like this always looked so fun and interesting to me, I always wanted to own a metal detector too, and just go around to various places, corners of beaches not frequented, etc and search for stuff, a lot of the time people even find lost jewelry, which you can take to a pawn shop and get some quick cash for, hobbies like these are fun and profitableProblem with Philippines is the genetic quality is lower than Thailand. But if you just want to escortcel then it won't be an issue.", "Onaholes are pretty good. I would recommend the Mouth of Truth and Venus Real soft.It's a nice stop-gap measure until sex bots come along.", "Food. I'm not that rich but i'm comfortable.", "wasted12years said:Food. I'm not that rich but i'm comfortable.This doesn't sound like being rich at all, I think you are stretching the definition a bit", "Everyone thinks their most imminent problem is the biggest problem. Once you get money you will still be lonely AF.I can't think of anything that I could buy that would improve my spirits if it didn't come with getting a loyal gf.", "BlkPillPres said:If you became a millionaire I'm pretty sure after a few months of gaming you'd lose interest in it, I lost my spark for gaming years ago,So you're a millionaire right? Jkkkk" ]
Jacob Baugh. A Neckbeard driven to insanity by lack of intimacy.
[ "He's been about for ages, has a few other channels which are mainly him ranting and venting about hating foids. This is his most recent, lack of sex with foids creates men like these.", "This is what awaits after several decades of inceldom", "I will sooner die by heroin overdose than reach that point.", "truecel future", "TheProphetMuscle said:This is what awaits after several decades of inceldomNo shit, he's got the exact same facial hair as me and is probably around my age. Now I've had a sleep I only just realised. ", "mental_out said:Is this that dude who made LSD in his basement? He looks familiarmental_out said:Is this that dude who made LSD in his basement? He looks familiarCould well be? He's got other videos up on different channels, mostly saying how much he hates women.", "outherebrothers said:Could well be? He's got other videos up on different channels, mostly saying how much he hates women.What are these other channels called?", "mental_out said:Is this that dude who made LSD in his basement? He looks familiarDo you have any links to that? (just curious)", "Voicemogs me", "TheLastSorrow said:What are these other channels called?jakecomesback2000www.youtube.comHe's got loads of video's on this one.", "Volcel if you have a neckbeard", "TheProphetMuscle said:This is what awaits after several decades of inceldom", "His brain has been fried by years of prolonged inceldom. SpoilerOr he's just an autistcel", "Every video of his is a lol. He's so intensely disturbed it's quite something to behold.", "Braincel14w said:Every video of his is a lol. He's so intensely disturbed it's quite something to behold.I feel bad that I almost loled a couple seconds in then I remember how fucked up he really is, and held back my laugh ", "I could be friends with him.", "ShyManlet said:I feel bad that I almost loled a couple seconds in then I remember how fucked up he really is, and held back my laugh Well it's either laugh or despair. I've had glimpses of that mentality in certain moments of my life. If I can't laugh about it then all I can do is feel shit.", "Braincel14w said:Every video of his is a lol. He's so intensely disturbed it's quite something to behold.", "outherebrothers said:does this dude still live in his parents basement?", "ShyManlet said:does this dude still live in his parents basement?Yes, he's lived there since 1996. The isolation and lack of decent human contact have driven him completely insane.outherebrothers said:jakecomesback2000www.youtube.comHe's got loads of video's on this one.Jake Baughwww.youtube.comJacobabout777www.youtube.com", "outherebrothers said:Yes, he's lived there since 1996. The isolation and lack of decent human contact have driven him completely insane. 120201his parents already dead though right?otherwise theyre a saint for putting up with his bsmy mother woulda kick me out if I was still neet at 25the agepill is the worst..if as a young men nobody caresas an old man im probably completely useless to societyand they would rather kill me if they could than having to see my creepy face everydayan old man literally trash in the eye of society", "Lol he said “I have never wanted to stick my dick inside a woman and cum” jfl at what happens to men after so long. The one and only biological desire a man has is literally withered away through pain and misery.", "ShyManlet said:his parents already dead though right?otherwise theyre a saint for putting up with his bsmy mother woulda kick me out if I was still neet at 25the agepill is the worst..if as a young men nobody caresas an old man im probably completely useless to societyand they would rather kill me if they could than having to see my creepy face everydayan old man literally trash in the eye of societyThey were still alive up to about 2 years ago as he mentioned them, presumeably they still are. I take your point, imagine being HIS mum and dad (which in itself is bad enough), but then have sleep above this 43 year old, completely useless, utter maniac screaming at 4:30am every night lol?! He had to post an apology on Youtube way back along (video is deleted now) as I think some of his family found his videos and seen what he was saying about them, and one in particular where he said about smelling the pussy on his Mom's caked, solid pants LMFAO!He's the original Neckbeard Basement Dweller ", " my favourite video of his tbh", "Damo the incel said: my favourite video of his tbhHahahaha! The guy is a goldmine of funny shit.My fav:", "outherebrothers said:He had to post an apology on Youtube way back along (video is deleted now) as I think some of his family found his videos and seen what he was saying about them, and one in particular where he said about smelling the pussy on his Mom's caked, solid pants LMFAO! this neet really lost it, I wouldve disowned him and told him to hit the road after thatoutherebrothers said:imagine being HIS mum and dad (which in itself is bad enough), but then have sleep above this 43 year old, completely useless, utter maniac screaming at 4:30am every night lol?! his parents are true saintmaybe hes the only child ", "ShyManlet said: this neet really lost it, I wouldve disowned him and told him to hit the road after thatYeah, he's a bit beyond help lol.", "GreaseCel said:Lol he said “I have never wanted to stick my dick inside a woman and cum” jfl at what happens to men after so long. The one and only biological desire a man has is literally withered away through pain and misery.All this dude has got is cope, otherwise he would've roped long ago for damn sure lol.", "outherebrothers said: 120336All this dude has got is cope, otherwise he would've roped long ago for damn sure lol.Coping so fucking hard lmao", "Based.Is he another hERo?", "Napoleon de Geso said:Voicemogs me", "Damo the incel said: my favourite video of his tbhThis one is epic, but my favourite was another one in which he rants about female women that are human and tells them to stay...WAY away that has been taken down due to JewTube's policy on hate speech... ", "Valiant Virgin said:This one is epic, but my favourite was another one in which he rants about female women that are human and tells them to stay...WAY away that has been taken down due to JewTube's policy on hate speech... I still get notifications about threads I made on my old, deleted account It's like the forum refuses to let me die lol Is this the video you were on about?View: aware he died a few years ago? R.I.P Jake ", "outherebrothers said:I still get notifications about threads I made on my old, deleted account 686133It's like the forum refuses to let me die lol Is this the video you were on about?View: aware he died a few years ago? R.I.P Jake That's the one - a true work of art! I'd heard of reports of his death and have just seen his online obituary. Such a shame, but his spirit and legacy lives on through his videos despite JewTube's attempts to censor him." ]
Blackpill[Hard To Swallow Edition] Indicators Of A Blue Piller In Denial
[ "This thread is very related to this one:Many Incels/Black Pillers Alike Are Suffering With Vestigial Bluepill Syndrome (VBS)?What is this ailment might you ask, look here: A lot of these guys here havent truly accepted they are incel, they are still very blue pilled, they are playing around with the black pill in their mouth, tasting it but never willing to swallow, how the hell can you be black pilled and still...incels.isThere are many so called black pillers on this site that are still very blue pilled, and I call this VBS (Vestigial Blue pill Syndrome)Here are what I have noticed are the indicators of a so called black piller, that is actually still blue pilled:ZERO is the highest level of blue pill, the lower the number, the less blue pilled the person is0. (reserved for the most elite of the blue pilled)Has fallen for various societal memes that have been indoctrinated into them via the cultural value systemsHard work is virtuous, one should take pride in the fact that they are a hard workerYou can only truly enjoy things that you exerted effort to attainI deserve X or I don't deserve X (believes in the concept of deserving things)Its not the destination that matters, its the journeyMorality is objectiveEtcMost men who have this rank 0 affliction of the blue pill, will more likely than not have many or all of the ones below1. Not nihilistic2. Values female validation over sex3. Refuses to pay for sex for moral and/or ego based reasons4. Values female validation period, but not more than sex5. Is religious (actually believing in a religion) as opposed to religionmaxxing (merely using religious affiliation as a tool to achieve specified goals)6. Most all women are X.... except <insert female family member>, they are exempt since they have treated me nicely in some situations7. Knows that getting a GF is the easiest part of ascension yet still wants to do it knowing what awaits him8. Thinks getting a GF is the hardest part of ascensionEtc, etc, these are just the cliche ones that come to mind that I see reoccuring a lot on the site, seriously there's some kind of blue pill plague spreading within the site, blue pillers are becoming bolder and braver, and saying shit out in the open they definitely would not have said on the site in its early days.I literally can't imagine seeing some of the posts I see today, in the days when I first arrived, there was a lot of strict gate keeping, and that was a good thing, all you'd see were high IQ threads that were very interesting and actual discussions took place.This new trend I'm seeing reminded me of the time when I told the mods that people should be banned for actively spreading blue pilled concepts (like female validation > sex), things that I mentioned above, and they said no, that would be too much policing, well look whats happening now, they allowed people to keep saying this shit and now its normalized and accepted, and many users are brazen enough to say blue pillled BS like this like they have no self awareness, even convincing themselves that they are black pilled while having these beliefs.", " High iq", "BlkPillPres said:1. Not nihilisticWhen you say nihilistic, do you mean existential nihilism, moral nihilism, or both? As I agree with the former, but don't subscribe to the latter. However that might just be an example of me being too passive and nice for my own good, despite the assertions of our detractors.BlkPillPres said:4. Values female validation period but not more than sexI'm not sure this makes sense tbh. I can recognize that a foid's opinion is irrelevant, but still can't help from feeling bad about being unwanted. It's not a rational feeling, and I'm not sure it's entirely voluntary. That said, I care about it a lot less than I used to, due to a concerted effort.I fully agree with the rest though.", "BlkPillPres said:Hard work is virtuous, one should take pride in the fact that they are a hard workerDoes this apply to all things in life or just women because ik women dgaf hardwork but I dont think there is anything wrong in priding oneself in their hard workBlkPillPres said:You can only truly enjoy things that you exerted effort to attaintbh I think this is BS when it comes to relationships, whats the point of working to acquire a foid who will eventually cuck you anyways and is probably chad leftoversI think its great for nonromantic shit tho tbhBlkPillPres said:I deserve X or I don't deserve X (believes in the concept of deserving things)JFL you cant really deserve sex or pussy or foids because you will have to accept being cucked sometime now or laterBlkPillPres said:Its not the destination that matters, its the journeywtf?BlkPillPres said:Morality is objectivetbh I think it is varied tbhone person's morality might be different than anotherIdk where I would fall at this point", "Is it bad that I agree with only number three?", "LiterallyASoyboy said:still can't help from feeling bad about being unwantedEverybody feels bad because of that, I don't think that's what valuing female validation is about, just feeling bad doesn't mean you value it, if a bunch of random people gather around and start insult you, you are going to feel bad about it, even though those random people mean nothing to you. Its about chasing after it female validation, and having it determine the decisions you make that establishes you value itFor example, I'm pretty sure guys that escortcel, including myself, feel somewhat bad that they are undesired (well me not so much lol), but we still pay for sex with no qualms. While a man who values female validation will feel bad about paying for sex, or not do it at all, because he feels like the sex is empty or worth less because he did to gain it through female validationyou'll notice that a lot of blue pills are connected, this female validation blue pill is connected to the zero rank blue pill, more specifically believing in the concept of deserving things and you can only truly enjoy things that you exerted effort to attainI lot of blue pilled users on this site don't realize they are handicapping themselves with all these weird mental restrictions and limit their choices in lifeRank Zero is the killer, once you have that, it will pretty much make you take on all the other blue pills, because the rest logically follow from societal indoctrination", "BlkPillPres said:I literally can't imagine seeing some of the posts I see today, in the days when I first arrived, there was a lot of strict gate keeping, and that was a good thing, all you'd see were high IQ threads that were very interesting and actual discussions took place.Better Days | Slow Cinematic Royalty Free Music | BensoundSlow ambient cinematic piece with a melancholic and sad feel. The minimalist guitar part is accompanied by soft strings.www.bensound.com", "seija said:Is it bad that I agree with only number three?If you have #3 you likely also have #2, so I'm confused as to what you mean, the ego part of not wanting to pay for sex, is staked in valuing female validation. So unless you are saying your opposition to paying for sex is strictly moral, then you also have #2Also either way if you are opposed to it for moral reasons, then you aren't a true nihilist, so you also have #1, I hope you noticed how I designed the list, most of them are connected in some way, if you have a lower one, more likely than not its connected to one above it", "BlkPillPres said:Everybody feels bad because of that, I don't think that's what valuing female validation is about, I think its about chasing after it, and having it determine the decisions you makeFor example, I'm pretty sure guys that escortcel, including myself, feel somewhat bad that they are undesired (well me not so much lol), but we still pay for sex with no qualms. While a man who values female validation will feel bad about paying for sex, or not do it at all, because he feels like the sex is empty or worth less because he did to gain it through female validationI see what you mean, and yeah, I'd agree that feeling bad about paying for sex is bluepilled. There are other reasons why one might not want to escortcel, but caring about the foid is a laughably cucked reason tbh.BlkPillPres said:you'll notice that a lot of blue pills are connected, this female validation blue pill is connected to the zero rank blue pill, more specifically believing in the concept of deserving things and you can only truly enjoy things that you exerted effort to attainThe problem with the idea of deserving something, is that regardless of personal feelings, that's just not how the world operates. Success or failure has nothing to do with whether or not you deserve the outcome, but rather both how lucky and determined you are, this is also why the concept of a just world is entirely false.", "BlkPillPres said:If you have #3 you likely also have #2, so I'm confused as to what you mean, the ego part of not wanting to pay for sex, is staked in valuing female validation. So unless you are saying your opposition to paying for sex is strictly moral, then you also have #2Also either way if you are opposed to it for moral reasons, then you aren't a true nihilist, so you also have #1, I hope you noticed how I designed the list, most of them are connected in some way, if you have a lower one, more likely than not its connected to one above itI personally don't care for female validation or sex anymore because of this fucking society, modern feminism and female hypergamy, I have personal hatred for most normalfags and foids. Theres no point to really trying or attempting to reach what is truly impossible. I'm personally not a true nihilist but I'm nihilist enough.", "How do you propose newer users become more educated on the blackpill, I see some of the stuff you're saying but I don't think the users that are posting that stuff are intentionally spreading bluepilled ideas", "Promotion of Nihilism is a psyop to make you apathetic to (((their))) agenda.", "When were you black pilled? How did your beliefs change after swallowing the black pill? I’m just curious.", "Ticcel said:When were you black pilled? How did your beliefs change after swallowing the black pill? I’m just curious.A lot of different shit over many years at various intervals in my life, you could say I was drip fed the black pill and then at certain points in my life got large intravenous dosages lolI got friendzoned around the age of 4 to 5, a few years later I got the oh cute rejection by a girl (she was way older, I was out of my league to be honest), and I also got black pilled about the importance of money to women on that day, summary belowBlkPillPres said:Unlike some of you guys I got black pilled really early, unsure if these events affected me mentally or not, but kinda glad they happened, kept me from wasting my time and making bad decisions.I was like 4 or 6, within that range (I know, kinda young to start liking girls but yeah that's me), there was this daughter of a male teacher (P.E Teacher) who would sometimes come to school, was probably 18 and up around that time, total stacey, beautiful. Me not having any concept of money (complete poorfag at the time), but still understanding that women liked gifts dug around my yard and found an old silver chain, cleaned it up in soap water, and was literally going to offer it to the girl (I know, completely oblivious)When I was going to give it to her my older sister happened to be walking by, asked me what I was doing, and basically said that the chain isn't worth crap, and I needed something more expensive, pretty sure I felt like absolute shit at that moment (because I wasnt cold hearted at that time in my life) and realized that its not the thought that counts, and I didn't even have a chance.I think later than same day, or some other time, I walked in on her and some other guys in a room making out, think they were taking turns with her, she was probably trying to get back at her dad or some shit. Think I remembered saying some lame shit like i'll tell and they just made fun of me, and she walked up and condescendingly patted me on the head, I remember one of the guys forcing me out of the room.Shit was probably traumatic to me, only partial memories, and the beginning of the hardening of my heart, my introduction into the black pilled world came earlier than a lot of you, I also probably started liking girls way before a lot of you, 4 years old, not joking, still remember the name of the mixed asian chick I really liked. I was really short and cute looking (still have a baby face, people often say I look way younger than I am) so the girls would often hug me and cuddle, I being naive thought it was a positive not know they didn't even see me as a choice for a mate, I was basically like that teddy bear girls have on their bed to go to sleep with.From then on it was constant rejection after rejection from women, and more and more friendzoning, yet I kept wasting my time approaching, trying different ways to approach, swapping personality types, etc, nothing worked.There was this trio of friends I was a part of, I thought it was going to be us against the world, I guess that was one of my copes, one of them killed themselves and the other is very blue pilled and I can't conceive of ever black pilling him, he is beyond help.I started to realize that I was truly alone, not just in the aspect of romantic relationships, but even platonic relationships, nobody else seems to have the mental fortitude to think the way I do and accept that as a reality, at a certain point I just realized that me and only me can create the life I desire for myself and I can't include anyone else as having a key role in that plan, I have to live my life as though its just me, because you can't really depend on anyone but yourselfEmergency Manual said:Promotion of Nihilism is a psyop to make you apathetic to (((their))) agenda.No, clown world is a psyop to make people complacent, nihilism just means not placing value in all the norms that a pre-established, it doesn't mean that you accept them, in fact its the exact opposite of accepting the world around you, I think people all to often conflate nihilism with doing nothing and letting the world walk all over you, and that's false, its turn the other cheek moralfags who have that mindset, a nihilist, someone who believes that nothing is sacred, is more likely to do some extreme shit that someone who is chained my rules.Nihilists have no rules because none of the rules matter to us, all that matters is the end goalYungguy said:I don't think the users that are posting that stuff are intentionally spreading bluepilled ideasWhether its intentional or not makes no difference, the end result is the sameIf we knew without a doubt that women weren't being intentionally hypergamous, would that make our inceldom now tolerable, would be now be like - oh ok, then its justified, carry on, you can't help yourselfOf course not, intention matters very little relative to the end result of an actionIf a mass shooter breaks into a school and a guy with a concealed carry opens fire on him, and mistakenly kills a 5 year old girl, he is fucked, his intention to protect the student body will matter very little, the media and society will demonize him, and the mass shooter will high five him ", "BlkPillPres said:7. Knows that getting a GF is the easiest part of ascension yet still wants to do it knowing what awaits himThis have no sense. Getting a gf or ONS is the hardest or imposible for an incel. Do you think that if you get a gf she wouldn't let you fuck her?", "BlkPillPres said:A lot of different shit over many years at various intervals in my life, you could say I was drip fed the black pill and then at certain points in my life got large intravenous dosages lolI got friendzoned around the age of 4 to 5, a few years later I got the oh cute rejection by a girl (she was way older, I was out of my league to be honest), and I also got black pilled about the importance of money to women on that day, summary belowFrom then on it was constant rejection after rejection from women, and more and more friendzoning, yet I kept wasting my time approaching, trying different ways to approach, swapping personality types, etc, nothing worked.There was this trio of friends I was a part of, I thought it was going to be us against the world, I guess that was one of my copes, one of them killed themselves and the other is very blue pilled and I can't conceive of ever black pilling him, he is beyond help.I started to realize that I was truly alone, not just in the aspect of romantic relationships, but even platonic relationships, nobody else seems to have the mental fortitude to think the way I do and accept that as a reality, at a certain point I just realized that me and only me can create the life I desire for myself and I can't include anyone else as having a key role in that plan, I have to live my life as though its just me, because you can't really depend on anyone but yourselfNo, clown world is a psyop to make people complacent, nihilism just means not placing value in all the norms that a pre-established, it doesn't mean that you accept them, in fact its the exact opposite of accepting the world around you, I think people all to often conflate nihilism with doing nothing and letting the world walk all over you, and that's false, its turn the other cheek moralfags who have that mindset, a nihilist, someone who believes that nothing is sacred, is more likely to do some extreme shit that someone who is chained my rules.Nihilists have no rules because none of the rules matter to us, all that matters is the end goalWhether its intentional or not makes no difference, the end result is the sameIf we knew without a doubt that women weren't being intentionally hypergamous, would that make our inceldom now tolerable, would be now be like - oh ok, then its justified, carry on, you can't help yourselfOf course not, intention matters very little relative to the end result of an actionIf a mass shooter breaks into a school and a guy with a concealed carry opens fire on him, and mistakenly kills a 5 year old girl, he is fucked, his intention to protect the student body will matter very little, the media and society will demonize him, and the mass shooter will high five him Damn. That’s explains a lot tbh. Unlike you, most of us were raised on the blue pill during the most impressionable part of our lives, the sensitive period. Most of us have to battle the bluepilled conditioning we were subjected to during our upbringing. I guess you’re immune to the blue pill because you weren’t really conditioned to believe in it. Tbh it’s hard for a lot of people here to be completely swallow black pilled due to they way they were raised. Maybe you should cut some of the people here some slack since they, unlike you, were raised believing the blue pill. Idk, I mean no offense. I’m a big believer in the idea that the sensitive periods pretty much molds your personality.", "littlemanhikicel said:Getting a gf or ONS is the hardest or imposible for an incel.My point exactly, you are misinterpreting the sentence, I'm not saying getting a GF is easy, its actually hard, I'm saying that its easier than what comes next, all the BS mind games you will have to play to keep said GF, all the stress to keep yourself from being cheated on and keeping her interested in you, its an endless uphill battle, your trials at ascending do not end at getting a GF, they only just beganlittlemanhikicel said:Do you think that if you get a gf she wouldn't let you fuck her?1. Who is to say you will even get to fuck her before she gets tired of you and trades up to a more attractive man, you could get a GF, and she is just leading you on because you are buying her nice things and making her feel special2. If your goal is just sex, then getting a GF makes even less sense, you could simply escortcel and skip all the BSTiccel said:Damn. That’s explains a lot tbh. Unlike you, most of us were raised on the blue pill during the most impressionable part of our livesYeah but still, it gets annoying seeing so many guys larp on but - I'm black pilled and they all still have blue pilled beliefs, it makes you wonder if they are just larps trolling, or they are unwilling to finally accept the black pill fully.Seriously how many more years of rejection and failure do they have to go through to finally get it through their heads, a lot of these guys are one IOI away from going full white knight to protect a bitch, that shit is pathetic, and it feels dangerous, like you are amongst a bunch of sleeper agents, you might become buddy buddy with one of the users here, give him key details about your life, he finally ascends and boom now he's posting about you on reddit and trying to dox youOr lets say you are planning to go ER, you told the user you trust the most about it, mabye even told them outside of the site on some other messaging platform, and unbeknownst to you, they finally got to kiss a girl recently and think they have a chance at ascending, so now they are playing team normie, guess who is going to report your assSorry these guys make the site feel not genuine, and it isn't safe with them around trying to play both sides and jump on whichever side seems like it is better for them, they have to be honest with themselves and make a choice.I respect cucks more than I respect the half baked black pillers on this site, because at least they are honest with themselves and they've chosen their side, these guys on this site are trying to play both sides like fucking bitches, pick a damn side, if you are still trying to ascend you are basically just a sleeper agent in waiting, and you cannot be trusted", "BlkPillPres said:My point exactly, you are misinterpreting the sentence, I'm not saying getting a GF is easy, its actually hard, I'm saying that its easier than what comes next, all the BS mind games you will have to play to keep said GF, all the stress to keep yourself from being cheated on and keeping her interested in you, its an endless uphill battle, your trials at ascending do not end at getting a GF, they only just began1. Who is to say you will even get to fuck her before she gets tired of you and trades up to a more attractive man, you could get a GF, and she is just leading you on because you are buying her nice things and making her feel special2. If your goal is just sex, then getting a GF makes even less sense, you could simply escortcel and skip all the BSSorry these guys make the site feel not genuine, and it isn't safe with them around trying to play both sides and jump on whichever side seems like it is better for them, they have to be honest with themselves and make a choice.I respect cucks more than I respect the half baked black pillers on this site, because at least they are honest with themselves and they've chosen their side, these guys on this site are trying to play both sides like fucking bitches, pick a damn side, if you are still trying to ascend you are basically just a sleeper agent in waiting, and you cannot be trustedImo, those here who were conditioned to believe the blue pill, including me, have two sides to them: the logical(blackpilled) side and the bluepilled(emotional side). I’m starting to believe that emotions and our knee-jerk reactions to things are based on programmed patterns of thinking that we resort to in a given situation. We were programmed to believe in the blue pill at a young age. As a result, that programming has developed into mental schemes that plague our logical thinking. I agree that this community should not condone blue pilled sentiments. I think logic and reason is the only way to overcome our conditioned blue pilled nature. I’ve have experimented with this idea myself. I used to be an extreme anxious person; however, after experimenting with nihilism and attempting to logically think my way out of anxiety, my anxiety has improved tremendously. Instead of allowing the programmed parts of brain to take over, I force myself to use the logical part of my brain. I like to think of emotions as chunks of code that basically follow a bunch of if-then statements, and the logical part of our brain like AI-code that is more logical and learning. This would only apply to those keep bouncing back and forwards between the pills. I’m sure many peolple here are trolls and infiltrators though. That’s just how I see all of this. Lol, maybe I’m just spewing none-sense though.I meant schemas not schemes", "1. Not nihilisticNihilism – A Meaningless WorldShakespeare’s Macbeth eloquently summarizes existential nihilism's perspective, disdaining life:Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player That struts and frets his hour upon the stage And then is heard no more; it is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.by this definition, if life is meaningless, those who havent commited suicide and succeed yet is still blue pilled according to your logic.none of us here choose to be born, we have no power over that decision.but those who choose the nihilistic path can choose to end their lives. The BlackPill is a concept based on sight , the eye and how it connect to the brain, simple as that. it's like breathing, whether they know it or not , doesnt matter. its what people do. you dont need some other pill ideology to expound on the BlackPill. ", "ExpiringAspirin said:by this definition, if life is meaningless, those who havent commited suicide and succeed yet is still blue pilled according to your logicNot that's by your logic, you are being disingenuous and attributing a set of actions to a mindset, it would be as if I said if you are a true pessimist, then by virtue of expecting the worst, you should give up on trying to do anything period, and if you go to work, practice hygiene, do anything with the intention of success at it, then you aren't a real pessimist according to your logicNot that's complete BS and you know it, you are attributing a set of actions to a belief systemAlso you pretty much went out of your way to find a very odd and specific definition to tailor your disingenous BS argument, one could simply google the word and get the oxford dictionary definition, which is plain and straight forwardOxford Languages | The Home of Language DataExplore Oxford Languages, the home of world-renowned language data.en.oxforddictionaries.comThe rejection of all religious and moral principles, in the belief that life is meaningless.Thinking that life is meaningless, doesn't by default mean - ok i'll end it thenThat is not the only choice one can make with this perspective, one could also decide to simply reject all morals, religion, rules etc and do only things that are to their benefit, to derive maximum pleasure and enjoyment from lifeWhat you are doing here is a false dichotomyYou are a nihilist so if you don't kill yourself you are blue pilledYou aren't a real nihilistIts completely fallacious, nihilism, pessimism, etc are PERSPECTIVES, there are no rule sets of actions attached to these perspectives that one MUST DO other than what specifically defines said perspective, you are trying to force made up restrictions onto a definition to suit your argumentI'll never get people who feel the need to argue dishonestly like this, you know full well what you are doing", "Nihilism original meaning just mean nothing from the Latin word Nihil, it was first coined by the Christians those who believed there is a God.but we know nothingness is a false concept, because matter and atoms exists. one must understand the etymology, and concept behind everything before expounding.Oxford is by no mean the authority of words and conceptswhen you try to determine how blackpilled people are, to me its like nitpicking this guy is not breathing hard enough because he is not running a 5 minute mile.mating is just one aspect of the BlackPill., am still seeking how the BlackPill affect things in other aspects of the world.", "ExpiringAspirin said:Nihilism original meaning just mean nothing from the Latin word Nihil, it was first coined by the Christians those who believed there is a God.but we know nothingness is a false concept, because matter and atoms exists.one must understand the etymology, and concept behind everything before expounding.Oxford is by no mean the authority of words and conceptswhen you try to determine how blackpilled people are, to me its like nitpicking this guy is not breathing hard enough because he is not running a 5 minute mile.mating is just one aspect of the BlackPill., am still seeking how the BlackPill affect things in other aspects of the world.Dude are you high or something, not one thing you said here pertains to the argument at hand or my response, its like you are trying to deflect from the argumentOxford is by no mean the authority of words and conceptsDefinitions of nihilism - OneLook Dictionary Searchwww.onelook.comHave your pick, not one of those definitions imposes the ridiculous restrictions onto a nihilistic perspective that you are trying to doLet me guess, none of those sources, even collectively are an authority, are you the authority then?Just be honest and admit you were arguing disingenuously, you know full well your definition isn't an actual definition and is just you attaching actions to a perspective, it would be like if I said - you aren't a real incel if you haven't or never plan on going ER.An incel is just a man who is involuntarily celibate, that's it", "It's funny I was this guy in my earlier daysThe blackpill really saved me a lot of pain, I was more an egoist and I really did care about how I appear more than anythingSomething I would still ask anyone (if they're reading this) because you obviously said goodbye couple of threads back; why do you think @BlkPillPres writes so well, puts his stuff together so well despite hating humanity and not caring about his appearance (i.e. how he appears to be online or otherwise, in text or otherwise)?" ]
TeeHeeOmegle Experiment- The Memes Fucking Write Themselves
[ "So I did a little Omegle experiment to both measure how blackpilled the masses are and their reactions to the blackpill. I posed a controversial leading question whose assumption was based on the blackpill being correct. Then I watched two strangers discuss my question. The best one screenshotted below displays Stranger1 (a red/purple/semi blackpilled possibly ugly or normie tier male) and stranger 2 ( a bluepilled female), the conversation starts with the male admitting the premise of the question as true. The foid then states this is false claiming this is only true for stuck up conceited women and announces its gender. The guy hilariously backtracks claiming exceptions exist. Then the foid claims it's special ofc a good and humble gal. The guy starts agreeing with everything the foid says like a brainless castrated cuck possibly in hopes of sniffing it's used up roastie. He then introduces himself with his name and she gives her name. Says his name is that of a friend she knows and the guy tries to press on asking her more about herself. Her answer is hilarious saying she's a mother of one proving females have no real purpose or interesting things in their lives outside of producing babies. He tries to press on about her possibly hoping to get closer to her, but knowing her mission of bluepilling him was complete she tells she needs to go to bed, possibly to get fucked by chad before going to sleep, and disconnects him.If you want to see more such experiments and hilarious responses and results DM me.", "Omegle is a shithole. It's worse than reddit or pretty much any mainstream social site I can think of. And what's even worse is that it's highly addictive to the lonely and to the bored. I'm thankful that I haven't used it for years now. It's seriously nothing but bullying normies and depressing lonely pricks staring awkwardly into a screen for all the world to see like zoo animals. It's a nightmarescape.", "Romello Gaghan 2 said:Omegle is a shithole. It's worse than reddit or pretty much any mainstream social site I can think of. And what's even worse is that it's highly addictive to the lonely and to the bored. I'm thankful that I haven't used it for years now. It's seriously nothing but bullying normies and depressing lonely pricks staring awkwardly into a screen for all the world to see like zoo animals. It's a nightmarescape.Some of the questions there are actually based. Also some people on there are interesting, it's a good way to practice talking to people through text, when you have no friends, so you can fraud social competence in the case of matching with a foid on dating or hookup apps or to generally improve conversation skills. The former is unfortunately just a pipe dream for incels ", "universallyabhorred said:Some of the questions there are actually based. Also some people on there are interesting, it's a good way to practice talking to people through text, when you have no friends, so you can fraud social competence in the case of matching with a foid on dating or hookup apps or to generally improve conversation skills. The former is unfortunately just a pipe dream for incels Yeah in theory I agree with you but for me, all it did was make my social problems 100 times worse.", "Romello Gaghan 2 said:Yeah in theory I agree with you but for me, all it did was make my social problems 100 times worse.How's that?", "universallyabhorred said:How's that?First of all, I had to spend a long time on there to find anyone who was based or interesting. & it made me feel desperate, as if it was obvious to everyone that I required some sort of supplementary alternative to normal social bonding. I hate feeling desperate.", "Romello Gaghan 2 said:Omegle is a shithole. It's worse than redditFull of boring normies. This site is trash and should die ", "2340922 said:Full of boring normies. This site is trash and should die ", "@Romello Gaghan 2 low effort post ", "Romello Gaghan 2 said:First of all, I had to spend a long time on there to find anyone who was based or interesting. & it made me feel desperate, as if it was obvious to everyone that I required some sort of supplementary alternative to normal social bonding. I hate feeling desperate.I talked to multiple females on there, the closest I had to success, was finding a female who was similar to me in terms of life situation, I got her to make a Discord account so we could talk even more and she did, which I friended. I messaged her again the next day on Discord and she never responded. She likely never logged in to that account ever again, after making it.", "Ropefuel", "2340922 said:@Romello Gaghan 2 low effort post Oh, too bad. I reposed you ass and you go an bite me in the back. We could have been buddys.", "Romello Gaghan 2 said:Oh, too bad. I reposed you ass and you go an bite me in the back. We could have been buddys. chill i dont report just warning u calm ur postcount", "universallyabhorred said:I talked to multiple females on there, the closest I had to success, was finding a female who was similar to me in terms of life situation, I got her to make a Discord account so we could talk even more and she did, which I friended. I messaged her again the next day on Discord and she never responded. She likely never logged in to that account ever again, after making it.Well keep that up and you might ascend. Who knows. Never worked for me. Every female either skipped me or said something totally rude about my appearance behind the shield of partial anonymity.", "Romello Gaghan 2 said:Well keep that up and you might ascend. Who knows. Never worked for me. Every female either skipped me or said something totally rude about my appearance behind the shield of partial anonymity.Online ascensions are near impossible, due to location issues and being ghosted 99% of the time. Also recall I never showed her any pics of myself, I wasn't doing video chat omegle, I was doing just text responding to questions.", "2340922 said: chill i dont report just warning u calm ur postcount90% of my posts are high effort as fuck bro. Even if you did report me for low effort nothing would happen, I promise. Consistent Low effort posting has never been an issue for me at all.universallyabhorred said:Online ascensions are near impossible, due to location issues and being ghosted 99% of the time. Also recall I never showed her any pics of myself, I wasn't doing video chat omegle, I was doing just text responding to questions.Oh I see. She might have been a larping trollcel even ", "Romello Gaghan 2 said:90% of my posts are high effort as fuck bro. Even if you did report me for low effort nothing would happen, I promise. Consistent Low effort posting has never been an issue for me at all.I dont want to try", "Romello Gaghan 2 said:Oh I see. She might have been a larping trollcel even Maybe, but she never seemed to explicitly mention her gender until I incorrectly guessed it was a guy or acted sexual at all. A trollcel would gain nothing from this.", "2340922 said:I dont want to tryGood. Snitchcels get stitchcels.universallyabhorred said:Maybe, but she never seemed to explicitly mention her gender until I incorrectly guessed it was a guy or acted sexual at all. A trollcel would gain nothing from this.Being ghosted is worse than direct rejection regardless. But hey, Im preaching to the choir with that one.", "Romello Gaghan 2 said:Being ghosted is worse than direct rejection regardless. But hey, Im preaching to the choir with that one.To be fair, I never expressed sexual interest in her and was trying to befriend her first. So it's not really sexual rejection.", "Amazing.Foids really love to give that bluepill ideology, in the hopes of turning more dudes who are actually getting the grasp of the situation, into little cuckolds by a few sentences that she approves of.Bitch deserves to be raped, just for teasing some poorcel.", "Bump", "universallyabhorred said:BumpEmpty bump, brocel. At least give us some new conversations.Hilarious shit, btw.", "based_meme said:Empty bump, brocel. At least give us some new conversations.Hilarious shit, btw.You people are absolutely pathetic and worthless. You demand threads from me while shitting on them. Go fuck yourself.", "universallyabhorred said:You people are absolutely pathetic and worthless. You demand threads from me while shitting on them. Go fuck yourself.WTF are you talking about, you fucking schizo? I never demanded any thread from you. KEKAnd I wasn't shitting on this thread. I was shitting on your vacuous bump, retard. This thread is fucking based, but you're being an idiot here, buddy boyo.", "based_meme said:WTF are you talking about, you fucking schizo? I never demanded any thread from you. KEKAnd I wasn't shitting on this thread. I was shitting on your vacuous bump, retard. This thread is fucking based, but you're being an idiot here, buddy boyo.You are telling me to make new content just because this is old, that's ridiculous. It deserves a bump because it's a good thread, cry more loser. You will never be capable of producing such quality content.", "universallyabhorred said:You are telling me to make new content just because this is old, that's ridiculous.Bro, I don't really care if you don't post new content. I'm saying you should, because you might get a warning for making a useless bump. But keep raging at me, boyo. JFLuniversallyabhorred said:It deserves a bump because it's a good thread, cry more loser. You will never be capable of producing such quality content.Shitskin nigger cope.", "universallyabhorred said:the guy tries to press on asking her more about herself. Her answer is hilarious saying she's a mother of one proving females have no real purpose or interesting things in their lives outside of producing babies.Imagine existing for decades and having no hobbies and no purpose and having absolutely nothing to say about yourself. Of course society only punishes this level of shallowness when it's men, if a foid is like that then it's fine", "Interesting read. Funny how people didn't want to admit a water is wet fact already in 2019, and it should be even worse now " ]
BlackpillThe Most Introspective Black Pilled Scene In Any Anime (Or Show Period)
[ "Anime: Aku no Hana (Flowers of Evil)I saw this years ago, and I never forgot it, decided I'd post it now since I've never seen anyone mention it, it was the most surprising anime series for me because of how honest it was about the human conditionion and how we all interact with eachother, especially in relation to sex, all humans do is lie, the basis for over very model of norms for interactions revolves around lyingThis is connected to another thread I made:The Term Euphemism Is A Euphemism For Lie (Our Species Culture Of Dishonesty)I only just realized how meta the term euphemism is, it only just dawned upon me, when you think about it, the term in of itself is a euphemism for lie, thats all that euphemisms are On that note, when we look at the culture of the entire species of humanity, dishonesty is inherent to every...incels.is16:00 minute in video (till 16:42)Watch Aku no Hana Episode 7 Stream @ AniWatcher.ComAku no Hana 7 High Quality Stream. Watch Aku no Hana 7 and upcoming episodes of Aku no Hana only at AniWatcheraniwatcher.comTakao Kasuga: I want to be normal!Sawa Nakamura:I'm disappointed.So, in the end, you're the same as them. (referencing normie classmates)When you talk, when you laugh, all that comes out is shit.You huddle up like shit in a bowl.Who likes who, who hates who...I hope you all drop dead!Just fucking disappear.All you do is spew your stupid bullshit to hide the fact that all you want to do is fuck!That was the truest, most honest shit about human interaction, especially about teens, that I ever saw in a show, it describes the entire reality about socializing between the sexes in a very objective way, were all just playing pointless mind games, smiling, pretending, when we know full well all we want to do is fuckWhy is it a normal part of human interaction, that a man has to pretend like he doesn't want to fuck a woman he is currently trying to fuck, what is the point of these ridiculous social norms and rules, once again you have to leave it to the japs to push the envelope in their art and media, you would never see this kind of honesty in an american tv show especially not a cartoon, or they would try to paint it in a light hearted way and joke about it rather than speak about it as something serious and annoying, something disgusting and fake.", "Brutal noreplypill .But I agree. We do all this pointless socialized bullshit to seem civilized. But feel down were horny animals who excrete feceas and urine. Return to monke theory jfl", "Only time blackpills come out are when they're making the blackpiller look like a cynical creep for comedic effect, like Robert California in The Office (US) or Chris Rock's shows. But the Japanese go just a little bit further, condemning the game itself rather than simply commenting on itEven comedians can't get away with being blackpilled in the West anymore. I had to stop watching Flowers of Evil because it got too depressing - but by god do I love the art style, getting away from the ridiculous big eyes of typical anime to something that looks like its from Japan" ]
Incelqueres are pathetic
[ "Most of their posters are roasties and white knight numales, no guy that uses that sub is in a healthy relationship, they are incels in denial", "People who populate subs that only exist to mock, complain about, or troll other subs (or other online communities) that have little to no relevance in real life obviously have a lot of issues. They're clearly not very happy with their lives, so they need others to look down on to feel better about themselves.The same is true for communities obsessed with lolcows. These are mostly people very close to the bottom of society, so they find the 1 percent of people who are even lower on the social ladder than they are because they need somebody to look at and tell themselves at least I'm not him. The more malicious ones that dox and harass lolcows are usually the angry loser types that got bullied a lot in real life and since they can't get revenge on those that bullied them in high school, they see lolcows as an opportunity to be on the other end of it. The people in these communities usually don't admit this outright, but at times they allude to it. And at other times you can read between the lines. The fact is, nobody remotely satisfied with their lives would be a part of those communities.", "subzero said:Just mock someone's even worse than you to feel better bro!OK!", "subzero said:Just mock someone's even worse than you to feel better bro!just punch down theory", "glad to see the oldest thread getting reactivated", "CuckTears is the lowest scum of humanity. May all of them get wiped out by Monkeypox. (in minecraft)", "This thread is precious and should be preserved", "Sigma said:This thread is precious and should be preservedno, kil it", "Greetings", "I found the oldest thread! ", "Posts 7,793Online 0m", "i can't even keep track of their degenerate users. if i have my facts right - doogy groomed princesskity when she was 13 and he was 24 or something? oh and that pizza man guy. jfl.", "subzero said:Just mock someone's even worse than you to feel better bro!find hot foids in neighbourhood that don't recognise you and say nasty things to them and run", "Wonder where this dude is now", "Mellatt said:Wonder where this dude is nowrentfree", "LDARbeforeROPE said:rentfreeare you him ", "Mellatt said:are you him no", "LDARbeforeROPE said:no", "Nigger", "I heard this is the oldest thread and have come to pay my respects.", "Fuck niggers and yids", "I destroy u anal flesh and eat it like caviar" ]
Saw a white female incel on the train
[ "was very surprised, to me they basically do not exist, not where I live anywayI would welcome her to post here, and be very happy for her to find a bf from our communitylooked like she was with her sisters maybe? (they were to her left) they also were quite ugly", "Ban OP please mods.", "jfl if you think she is an incel. She is probably getting pump/dumped by chads every night. WITH Looksmaxxing she can ascend to plain jane.", "I would welcome her on my cawk.", "incelman said:jfl if you think she is an incel. She is probably getting pump/dumped by chads every night. WITH Looksmaxxing she can ascend to plain jane.Welcome back BanCelman", "She’s not incel. Not even that terribly ugly tbh", "SaintMarcLepine said:Ban OP please mods.", "Wait til you see her with makeup on.This is what most women really look like.", "SaintMarcLepine said:Ban OP please mods.", "I prob would've fucked this girl if she had pleasant personality, no way she is incel - she could get sex with lots of men if she wanted.Your browser is not able to display this video.It's been a long time since I rode a train, I don't think I'd be low-inhib enough to photograph girls with my phone though.If OP is that low-inhib he should've tried to talk to her instead. Find out if her personality compensates for her looks.Dopecel said:Wait til you see her with makeup on.This is what most women really look like.the fact she doesn't wear makeup makes me like her more, it's like she's given up on attracting chad - that's hot", "Deleted member 279 said:Ban OP please mods.", "Deleted member 306 said:jfl if you think she is an incel. She is probably getting pump/dumped by chads every night. WITH Looksmaxxing she can ascend to plain jane.", "Deleted member 279 said:Ban OP please mods.KV3 said:She’s not incel. Not even that terribly ugly tbhI've had much worse reject me.", "She can't be an incel. She just lacks makeup and she could already be high-tier Becky. And women can't be incels, no way. Maybe with facial deformity and even then probably not.", "volcel if wouldnt", "A regular 4/10.", "She looks lil bit below average to me but not that ugly.", "there is no such thing as a female incel. she’s a chadcel", "How the fuck is it always 2017cels that are either bluepilled af or trannymaxxed?That bitch can get laid easily, doesnt even look that fat, it's just that she's not wearing makeup when every other foid looks like ", "Based creepshotcel", "Creepmaxxxxxxed" ]
Its OverWhy arent there women with fetishes for short men?
[ "I am legitimately confused by this. Although I don't have stats on it, based on the presence of stated sexual preferences you'll find on the internet in places that people will talk about them, short men are the most undesirable people there are compared to all other possible combinations of sex and body size/shape. Even on inceltears, where foids will cherrypick insanely improbable exceptions (which prove the rule) to make it look like they're attracted to anything other than Chad (even though the exception is seldom them), a short man will only be getting sex and a relationship DESPITE his height or with a 5 foot tall girlfriend who doesn't care that he's 5'7 (see you don't have to be 6 foot 2 teehee although I'm 4'11 and my boyfriend is). Foids who claim they don't care much about height just say that he needs to be taller than her; imagine what they're actually thinking most of the time. Not once have I even seen a foid say something along the lines of some women are really into short guys sweaty, my friend's mother's dog's caretaker's sister's sister-in-law actively seeks out short guys see no problem. It just doesn't happen.Let's look at men and women of different body sizes and shapes. Men and women who are muscular, tall, skinny, fat and short. It's very easy to find communities that are attracted to these people or pornography of these people directed towards a heterosexual target audience on imageboards and reddit.Muscular people of both genders are obviously in demand, a nice juicy ass from squats is obviously more attractive to most people than a flabby cellulite-ridden one. It is far more shapely. On the other end male muscle is hugely important, there's a reason people gymcel but they don't bonesmash.Tall people are in demand. With men it's self-explanatory, with women the only reason they have a hard time dating when tall is because men know being heightmogged by them is deadly (or the women demand men 5 inches taller than them). There are plenty of men who have amazon fetishes and would want nothing more than being snu snu'd by a voluptuous giantess, alternatively there are a bunch of men on imageboards attracted to tall skelly women.Skinny people are in demand. Some men are attracted to skinny women to the extent that they will encourage their anorexia. Not meme not eating a burger a day while being a US citizen anorexia either, actual anorexia, the type that makes women stop menstruating because they're so underweight. Women are attracted to lanklets, and will use this as their first line of defence against somebody claiming they are exclusively after the dicks of genetically-superior males who, for whatever reason, must be muscular.Fat people are in demand. Whether it's women teeheeing over thor's dad bod or men who are attracted to women who literally cannot get out of bed, there exists a subset of both genders that is attracted to people who are overweight or obese. This is clearly fucking retarded, much moreso than being attracted to short men would be. While short people are at a greater risk of Alzheimer's and heart disease (also type 2 diabetes but that appears to be purely the result of them needing less sugar to fry their pancreases), they seem to be less at risk of a variety of cancers and joint problems as they age. Short men actually live longer on average due to their genes, so what health problems they are predisposed to are part of a mixed bag as opposed to of being part of the many curses of manletism. Meanwhile fat fucks can't stop dying of the most retarded things possible - they lose limbs to the beetus, their arteries are more clogged than the cervix of your looksmatch as you read this, and their colons are full of cancer from eating chicken nuggets that are pink until the meat gets bleached in the factory. They can't even do one pullup when skellies can.Let's pretend for a second that sexual attraction is perfectly rational as opposed to being the result of natural selection throwing shit at the wall and seeing if it sticks. You might respond to this by saying that muscular people have better fitness overall, tall people are faster and stronger, skinny people show more bone definition because they're leaner and fat people have more energy stored on them. All of this doesn't explain why people are attracted to short women. As with poor facial bone structure, short height screams malnourishment (without the bone definition provided by attractive leanness), weakness, disease and death. However, even when the ideal relationship is one in which the man is 5 inches taller than the woman, many men still actively go out of their way to pursue the shortest women possible (it's not to even out their heights either, otherwise they wouldn't act so dumbfounded when their sons are manlets).I myself, despite generally preferring women around my height as a coping almost-5'8 manlet, remember getting a huge stiffy one time in high school when I met a girl on the bus that I hadn't seen in a few years and who I had obviously outgrown. I can't put into words why I felt attraction to her based on our height difference but I really wanted to fuck her there and then. Why?I think what it might be is that male height is a secondary sex characteristic. Women love talking about how 6'2 Chad makes them feel small which makes me uncomfortable, not just because I know I can't compete but also because I have a hard time empathising with women wanting to feel small as a heterosexual man. When I try to put myself in their shoes it just seems like big bubba is going to assrape me or I am getting bullied by an amazonian giantess (@Blacktarpill can probably tell you a lot more about this than I can) which I don't appreciate. However, women exist to be assraped and then impregnated by men who look kind of like big bubba. Maybe in this case it's less about being attracted to somebody who is fit to bear or sire a child, but moreso about us wanting to have sex with the nearest thing that looks the most like the opposite sex. Tall=man, short=woman, simple. Kind of like long hair on women (in all cultures, even pre-colonial African ones where women have crusty nappy hair that sticks to their head without placing lots of time and effort into it) even if long hair is a magnet for blood-sucking parasites (on the other hand, if you have nice, long, thick, silky hair you probably haven't had to worry about things sucking your blood or sapping your strength much, still though, if this is the case, why isn't long hair on men considered as sexually attractive? it's definitely a gendered thing).When I think to myself about being a drunk Irish convict in 1790s Australia with access to only Aboriginal pussy, it becomes clear that I would certainly opt for the short long-haired boongs instead of the big dykey boongs. At least I can be sure those are female when they have clothes on. I don't know how ugly women were everywhere else back when they were chucking sticks at things but I'd imagine it took us a great deal of selection back then to get women to where they are today.If this is true, it makes sense that the short man vs fat women comparison (short men can't voluntarily gain height so how are they less attractive than fat women who don't take care of themselves?) falls on deaf ears to people outside of this community. A fat woman can be soft and cuddly even if she has a big ol gut, but a short guy just looks like an unmasculine ftm tranny. Even if he gymcels he just becomes a muscle tranny, which is something most straight men want to look at about as much as you or I. Being short isn't comparable to being fat or a skelly or even tall as a woman, because it's such an important secondary sex characteristic for men in particular. Think of it as being a voicecel but ten times more brutal, it's voiceceldom if you were forced by your genes to shout in a twelve year old squeaker voice 24 hours a day. Or a woman getting a double mastectomy, but men have a wider range of sexual taste so I'm sure somebody would be all over her anyway whereas manlets are forced to rot.I don't know though, maybe I'm wrong, I doubt there's research on this because anthropologists and evolutionary psychologists don't want the people who buy their academic journals on jstor to rope. It definitely seems like something is up. What do you boyos reckon the cause for this is?", "Short men are not seen as men at all.", "In mammals, the male is larger than the female.", "gnomen1 said:In mammals, the male is larger than the female.should manlets eaglemaxx?", "jerrycan dan said:should manlets eaglemaxx?The mammalian dimorphism is hardwired into both male and female brain. Males naturally become insecure when they are short and females will forever be heightist. Best solution? Accept nature for what it is and don´t fight it.", "It has a lot to do with that big bubba part you wrote. Women want to be dominated, they want to feel like their mate can beat them up or kill them at any time because this signals high testosterone levels and physical strength which means her offspring will be strong with a high chance of survival. Women assume that any man smaller than her is weak and cannot physically dominate them, this can be seen in all those videos of foids taunting a manlet and then getting BTFO'd and acting all shocked. Maybe if we lived in a society where it was socially acceptable to beat foids as a man, women would be more open to dating men shorter than them.", "Women in general have less fetishes than men.Men are very accepting of diversity, women aren't", "Chad only", "Women don't have fetishes because they don't have the libidos men do. All fetishes (both the submissive and dominant ones) are almost exclusive to males.", "More like women don't have fetishes because they can get a Chad in a minute on tinder.Men can't get women so they cope by developing fetishes and masturbating to landwhale porn.", "Ryo_Hazuki said:Women don't have fetishes because they don't have the libidos men do. All fetishes (both the submissive and dominant ones) are almost exclusive to males.Are you sure women don't have the libidos men do? They get just as rowdy as us when Chad is around. What suggests they wouldn't be into particular things? I overhear skanks talking about men's hands a lot.", "Only a chad face and a big dick can save manlets", "Water is wet", "jerrycan dan said:Foids who claim they don't care much about height just say that he needs to be taller than herThose are the women who later dump the poor manlet for not being able to wear heels when with him and they say they don't feel like a real woman or something.", "whoman have no fetishes their a collective retarded hive mind", "Let's hope it isn't over, man.", "Because short men pass short genes on to their offspring, and are less able to dominate other men physically or socially, making both the female and the offspring vulnerable to those other men's aggression.Some girls like skinny guys because they tend to be tall (average-height men tend to be skinny fat), and because they're lean enough to have chiseled angular faces, which signal high testosterone.Muscular men are obviously in demand because muscularity makes a man more dominant, and it signals high testosterone.Chubby men are only in demand when they are also tall and broad-shouldered, e.g. Thor, who is muscular as well as chubby, i.e. built fat. Fat men with large frames are in the general category of large and menacing, as are lean men with large frames, who are even more in demand. Absolutely nobody likes the average man with a dad bod, with his average height, low muscle mass, and average face bloated by high body fat.You can say some men are attractive despite being short, but there's absolutely no reason why a female would be attracted to a man for being short.", "FinnCel said:Women in general have less fetishes than men.Men are very accepting of diversity, women aren'tUnhappy-Man said:Chad only", "my theory is that women are inherently autopedophilic in nature for whatever reasonI'm actually writing (well, started writing) a whole paper/book on it, but it's pretty obvious for anyone with an open mind and any observational skills: all this I want to feel smol, using childish language, pet names, preferring neotenous characteristics, daddy fetishism etc. etc. - I call this implicit cultural pedophilia", "If I was a foid, I want a short man I can dominate and turn into my sex slave. And he doesn't have to be Chad...", "TheNEET said:my theory is that women are inherently autopedophilic in nature for whatever reasonI'm actually writing (well, started writing) a whole paper/book on it, but it's pretty obvious for anyone with an open mind and any observational skills: all this I want to feel smol, using childish language, pet names, preferring neotenous characteristics, daddy fetishism etc. etc. - I call this implicit cultural pedophiliaThey also usually go for guys who are at least five or even ten years older.", "I heard some tall high t women like shorter men. 5'11+", "because society has told them tall is what they should go forbecause they want to feel submissivebetter genesbecause of the hive mind mentality, they don't want their friends to know that she's dating a short guy", "Gyros_Pretcel said:I heard some tall high t women like shorter men. 5'11+where?", "jerrycan dan said:where? redditBut the explanation was quite plausible. Confident masculine tall girls are supposedly lacking the evolutionary dread associated with short genes and don't have the need for a protector on a hormonal and practical level either.But you probably have to bring at least something else to the table because of their higher smv. So prolly only an option for chadlets.", "TheNEET said:my theory is that women are inherently autopedophilic in nature for whatever reasonI'm actually writing (well, started writing) a whole paper/book on it, but it's pretty obvious for anyone with an open mind and any observational skills: all this I want to feel smol, using childish language, pet names, preferring neotenous characteristics, daddy fetishism etc. etc. - I call this implicit cultural pedophiliaSchopenhauer said that the reason why women get along with children so well is because they're mentally children themselves.", "i remember some short comedian saying there was a fetish for shit but not for short menthat's how over it is.", "Gyros_Pretcel said: redditPost link bro", "jerrycan dan said:Post link broIt was some time ago. Some height related subreddit with women on it and comments with anecdotic evidence. But there are not so many tall girls, so it might be valid.", "FinnCel said:Women in general have less fetishes than men.Men are very accepting of diversity, women aren'tWomen all prefer the same type of guy (north atlantid phenotype )", "Its basic biology unfortunately as it goes back into when humans first inhabited the Earth. The only reasons foids would want a manlet is to use him for resources and it isn't that much different a million years ago or today.", "Sexual desire works differently for men and women. For men it's like an addiction, like eating or smoking. You crave it and the craving sometimes takes you to weird directions (the female body is like a fruit for a man, something to taste and savor. A ripe, sweet fruit will taste better but sometimes eating a weird looking fruit can be interesting as well, hence the variety in tastes) and it's easy to lower your standards to satisfy it, like eating stale food when you are hungry if that's all you have. For women, it's more about psychological stimulation. They crave the exceptional because the mundane is stale and boring, and since the need is not physical they have no reason to lower their standards. A smoker will go to the extend of picking up dirty butts from the streets if he can't afford to buy cigarettes (i had a friend in high school who did that a couple of times). Female sexual craving doesn't work like that at all. Their addiction is closer to that of a gambler. It's the dopamine release you get when you win big, when you are holding something valuable in your hands, and having an higher status good looking male is like possessing something precious, which is what excites them. So health, physical prowess, money, power, fame, everything that's deemed valuable either from a biological or social point of view is what they crave.", "Opus132 said:Sexual desire works differently for men and women. For men it's like an addiction, like eating or smoking. You crave it and the craving sometimes takes you to weird directions (the female body is like a fruit for a man, something to taste and savor. A ripe, sweet fruit will taste better but sometimes eating a weird looking fruit can be interesting as well, hence the variety in tastes) and it's easy to lower your standards to satisfy it, like eating stale food when you are hungry if that's all you have.For women, it's more about psychological stimulation. They crave the exceptional because the mundane is stale and boring, and since the need is not physical they have no reason to lower their standards. A smoker will go to the extend of picking up dirty butts from the streets if he can't afford to buy cigarettes (i had a friend in high school who did that a couple of times). Female sexual craving doesn't work like that at all. Their addiction is closer to that of a gambler. It's the dopamine release you get when you win big, when you are holding something valuable in your hands, and having an higher status good looking male is like possessing something precious, which is what excites them. So health, physical prowess, money, power, fame, everything that's deemed valuable either from a biological or social point of view is what they crave.high IQ tbh", "Cuyen said:Short men are not seen as men at all.IlIlllllIlIl said:because society has told them tall is what they should go forbecause they want to feel submissivebetter genesbecause of the hive mind mentality, they don't want their friends to know that she's dating a short guy", "Gyros_Pretcel said: reddit", "KingOfRome said:Because short men pass short genes on to their offspring, and are less able to dominate other men physically or socially, making both the female and the offspring vulnerable to those other men's aggression.", "Female nature prevents them from being atracted to manlets", "Gyros_Pretcel said: redditBut the explanation was quite plausible. Confident masculine tall girls are supposedly lacking the evolutionary dread associated with short genes and don't have the need for a protector on a hormonal and practical level either.But you probably have to bring at least something else to the table because of their higher smv. So prolly only an option for chadlets.Interesting theory" ]
If you had power, what would you do to cucks, numales, and feminists?
[ "Personally, I'd have them gathered in a public place where they would be flogged and tortured. So the truth about these people would be made clear and they would serve as an example to others.", "Is this your first thread? @tehgymcel420", "Rape foids, give them away to fellow brocels. Cucks and Chads are executed. (in GTA IV with God mode)", "TheDarkEnigma said:Rape foids, give them away to fellow brocels. Cucks and Chads are executed. (in GTA IV with God mode)This thread was really posted back in 2017 its been almost 5 years now", "Bury them alive", "Currycel69_ said:Is this your first thread? @tehgymcel420I was 16 and an idiot back then ", "iraqi-cel said:I was 16 and an idiot back then Same lol but i was gymmaxxing and studycelling i was kinda blackpilled back then as well", "I would make a human-zoo and place them there. They wouldn’t get any food, but i would make it allowed to feed them like animals and throw things at them. Also they would have to be naked all the time and sleep on the ground. They would be obligated to go outside during the day in the summer and in the winter, they would be behind a Glas, where everyone can watch them and make photos of them.Also i would castrate them, if they don’t follow my rules, the females, i would throw acid at their faces to humiliate them, so they remember to never be arrogant again.", "iraqi-cel said:I was 16 and an idiot back then I was 25 and on half the salary I am now. It was brutal in those years", "ilieknothing said:I was 25 and on half the salary I am now. It was brutal in those yearsSame here I was in bluepilled fantasy back then my bluepilled dreams got crushed by humiliating rejections", "i would castrate all men. they would be turned into wageslaves to support my lavish lifestyle. they will build the third temple in jeruselem. and also a palace to house my harem of gigastacys. all sub 10 foids will be spayed and turned into prostitutes to be the carrot on the stick for the wageslave cuck men", "Currycel69_ said:Is this your first thread? @tehgymcel420Probably, was just posting edgy shit to piss off normies.", "gas cucks enslave foids nuff said " ]
ExperimentDescribe your subhuman face and how life is as a result
[ "My face is a baby face. I have slightly fat cheeks, a smaller chin, low set cheekbones.People usually talk down to me because they assume I'm younger than I actually am. People are also usually extra nice but it's definitely fake. And of course, younger women give me no attention and don't mind treating me like shit.I fucking hate everybody and my face.", "I am ugly and it made my life not goodbye VRVRVEVR HRRVRVRRVOROOOOM SKSKRKRKRKRKRKRKRKRKRKR AKBBOOMMNPOW POW POS WHOSOSOAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHUUA PEOSOSOOSOSOWO", "I am an unattractive male and people hate me for it", "Fag face. Like no extremities, but result is problematic. Too childish and feminine for man, not cute enough for candyboy. At teen years was very good for atracting attention from bullies, often misgendered", "no cheekbones, no jaw, crooked nose.The result is my desire to rope", "Napoleon de Geso said:Fag face. Like no extremities, but result is problematic. Too childish and feminine for man, not cute enough for candyboy. At teen years was very good for atracting attention from bulliesBasically this.", "Round, large, childish baby face. No cheekbones, no angularity. I come across as way younger than I am.As a result I don't give any sexual vibes at all", "Macrocephalus said:Round, large, childish baby face. No cheekbones, no angularity. I come across as way younger than I am.As a result I don't give any sexual vibes at all", "Pear shaped bald head, no chin, rounded jaw, small cheekbones, flat nose.Actually for a large part of my life I couldn't mentally visualize my own face or body, I would look at the mirror and as soon as I left i couldn't remember how I looked.", "Recessed chinVery weak jawAsymmetrical eyes and noseBulbous noseFat negro lipsOmniVoid said:low set cheekbones.Long faceOmniVoid said:People usually talk down to me because they assume I'm younger than I actually am. People are also usually extra nice but it's definitely fake.", "I look like thisI've never had a good interaction with a human being because of it (unless it's their job to be nice). People always talk shit behind my back. Older girls call me sweetheart because of how pathetic and non threatening I look. Normies and above laugh at how ugly I am. I'm extremely mentally ill (have severe anxiety when doing anything around people to where I'm even more braindead than I already am) do to having this hideous face and non tallfag height.", "Me?Very poor facial harmony, with ogre features.Square jawProtruding zygos, even though they're low setPointy chinFat cheeks (just lean enough for jawline, but not for cheeks)At least normal lipsHigh fwhr, 1.97At least decent hairlineBad symmetryEyebrows a bit highMonolidsectomorph frame makes my big head look bobblehead", "Chubby cheeksRecessed chinAsymmetrical Acne Acne scars Life has been pain because of my face.", "Recessed chinWeak jawBug eyesNasal foldsForehead full of acneMy face and my manlet height (5'7) are the things that screwed my life.", "Shit skinCrooked, big noseNappy hairLazy eyeZit scarsBig head that no hat can fitBeta voice= Poor and KHHV", "Bad nose (mixture between a jew and a nigger nose, worst combination ever).Large ears that stick out5'9 manletAssymetrical eyes", "I have a shitty nose (jew nose with a huge curve) and my chin is set way too in the back. My frame is also fucked up and I look like a starving african child.", "Was rated as 4.5 by another user, I still have a babyface even though I'm in my mid 20s. Decent jawline and forward growth but my eye area is complete shit. I'm the only one in my family who picked up the rice eyes gene which makes me look completely subhuman. Literally got chink eye jokes for decades from my bros. Still got the best hairline at least. K selection genes will kill you bro", "Small asymmetrical ugly face with a lot of acne scars. Everyone, including family hates me for my ugly face. Some people even try to take pictures of me with their smartphones because they have never seen something this ugly.", "ugliest most subhuman smile in the world so i can never be happy", "My ugly subhuman facial features consist of:long horse facedbull frog facedogre faced ethnicwith bug eyesa janky jawnappy carpet hairnigger nosenigger lipssmall earsan irritating croaky alien voice.", "Curry, facial assymetry(major), bloatcel, voicecel, fatI have been a living meme to many foids", "I also have a baby face and it hurts.", "My face is above subhuman level, but it's dragged down by my humongous, crooked nose and dark circles under my eyes.", "MarriedAndLookin4Fun said:I am an unattractive male and people hate me for it", "My face is ethnic. That should say it all.", "Blackpill Rage said:My face is ethnic. That should say it all.brutal im ethnic as well", "Mine is also a baby face, with weak jaw. But I also have bad wrinkly skin with acne that belongs on a 40 year old and a negative canthal tilt + everything is just badly asymmetrical. Its over tbh", "NoMoreSlaving said:Mine is also a baby face, with weak jaw. But I also have bad wrinkly skin with acne that belongs on a 40 year old and a negative canthal tilt + everything is just badly asymmetrical. Its over tbhNo hope", "Large nose. Massive burn mark on the left of my face", "it made my life hel. god hadtes me so much. why does he have to hate me. please stop it" ]
(Serious) Im not fit for a relationship.
[ "(for some reason the prefix isn't working that's why I put Serious in paranthese) Real talk, I'm not cut for a relationship, having missed out on obtaining them during a very crucial part of mental and social development which is HS. I would always tell myself I know what I want in a mate, but that's only because of what I imagine of what my relationships might be like, but in reality it maybe very different from what I was hoping for, thus shaping up your expectations and sharpening your social development. Having not obtained relationships during HS I haven't learned the social cues of what's right or wrong, of what type of females to go for and to avoid.Basically I'm saying, I'm socially and emotionally stunted due to lack of relationships during developmental stages of life, believe it or not, relationships helps us learn more about ourselves as a person. Since I never obtained anything of the sort I never really learned too much about myself in terms of how I would be in a relationship. It's easy to think our relationships will be what we see in Anime or Disney movies, when in reality it's far different.Me being alone, always playing video games, jerking off, eating, and pretty much not caring about much, yeah I wouldn't be a good partner in a relationship. I'm not 100% sure if I'll be a stronger better person if I obtained a few relationships or if I would be worse, but I'll never know since I missed out on them during a very crucial development part of my life and sadly I think that applies to generally all men who missed out during HS.So what're your thoughts? Does this apply to you too? Am I wrong? Did I miss anything? Leave your thoughts below.", "same tbh. I only want sex anyway", "I want a relationship where the whore loves me and helps me despite the fact that Im obviously not ready for a relationship", "Dude if you've already been blackpilled its over you'll never trust a foid or live a happy normie life.There are only two paths left or get OVER it", "u should try some mmos i think they are good cope and help with social xp a bit", "You feel like you would be a bad partner. Do you know what a good partner is like?", "im too mentally stunted and emotionally drained to handle an actual one.", "I wish I had a gf that would walk me through dealing with people tbh", "I believe that I would become a better person than I am now if I got into a serious relationship. Of course, that would only be if she didn't leave me or cheat on me because if she did then I'd devolve even further mentally.If I had a girl that I could have sex with, this would give my life meaning, a point and thus it would drive me to do the things that I currently don't have the motivation for; find a job, get a driver licence, become more social etc. What reason do I have to archieve those things right now? I'm all alone, all I can do is escape the lonelines through copes. When you look at married men, they are okay with working hard and generally doing things I'd never do because they're doing it for their wife and their children (who are a product of them having sex with their wife), not for themselves. Humans require intimacy, that is a primal desire like our desire for food and sleep, as long as we do not statisfy this desire, we cannot move forward and focus on more important things.Would a starving man care about if he is a functional member of society? No, his mind is too focused on obtaining food for that.", "Most(if not all) incels over certain age(somewhere in middle 20's) becomes non fit to relationship, even if they were perfectly fit before that. It's not only about lack of experience, I think that could be reversed. But constant string of rejections, blackpill knowledge and often getting acustomed to life in solitary makes it pretty much impossible. When you are teen then even if you are not in relationship you are living with other people -> your parents and siblings. When you in college/uni you often live still with parents or in dorm or in some rented apartment but with few other people. After that and starting earning some cash you are living just by yourself, losing ability to have normal human contact. I mean sure you have it in work, but it's very shallow, based only in work(not counting talking about weather or football match). If you are neeting then you are usually still living with parents, but your relationship is changed because they DON'T want you to live with them. After a while your sexual drive can lower, which is happening to me at the ripe age of 30. I like living alone, but to be honest my mother was (and still is)manipulative, nagging witch that I have love/hate relationship. After a hundred of rejections I just have rather bad view on beutiful gender. I don't even know if I wanted sex if I could have it, I mean it would be so awkward.", "I am dead inside", "For starters having autism, I'm definitely not, it was over for before it began for me. Sometimes I wonder why I even bother looking at the double-standards and hypocrisy of women, dating, relationships, sex, etc, because I'm not even in the game, let a lone at the bottom of it. I guess I just have all the time in the world free, so I can just do whatever I want, and my mind has focused on these kinds of things in the last few years, so its what I spend most of my time thinking about.", "jerrycan dan said:I wish I had a gf that would walk me through dealing with people tbh", "jerrycan dan said:I wish I had a gf that would walk me through dealing with people tbhThis is how I use my psychologist.", "I would get cucked if I had a relationship, I'd be too nice and she would think I was a pussy. I don't have the ability to be assertive.Insomniac said:I am dead insideWe all are.", "Emergency Manual said:I would get cucked if I had a relationship, I'd be too nice and she would think I was a pussy. I don't have the ability to be assertive.We all are.I can see having 0 exp, you'd either get get cucked, or you'd be way over-bearing and push her away. We haven't learned how to have a healthy functioning relationship, this is something you learn when you're younger with experience and you're given the benefit of the doubt. But the older you get the less people are willing to put up with your lack of inexperience. Its a vicious cycle tbh.", "Weeb25 said:u should try some mmos i think they are good cope and help with social xp a bitMmos are a great cope, socializing in them is as bad as irl. Still normans behind those avatars.", "It's correct, here we all had a stunted social/emotional development, making us unable to manage relationships.That makes us either loners for life in the best case. In the worst we are the victims of choice of roasties looking for betabux.Knowing ones' limits is a strenght though.", "Same bro. Foids have nothing of value to contribute with but sex anyway though.", "zangano1 said:I want a relationship where the whore loves me and helps me", "You can do whatever you want, looks are everything. I knew a girl that complained about how all her boyfriend does is play cod back when that game was relevant. There were also girls on tinder talking about how fortnite stole their boyfriends from them.", "Same", "Same here Im too autistic to handle a relationship", "BraccusRex said:Dude if you've already been blackpilled its over you'll never trust a foid or live a happy normie life.Facts,foids are genetically engineered to cheat,to upgrade to a superior man.They're unreliable and worthless." ]
SeriousMarxism-Rodgerism sounds legit tbh
[ "Marxism-Rodgerism. Opinions?It may seem difficult to understand the realities of the blackpill. It may be hard to come to terms with how - and why - the world functions as it does. And even when you do, it is even harder to understand where to go next. But there is one set of techniques which shines a clear light on the...incels.isSeems pretty legit tbh. Why not unironically act on this by having a committee to centrally plan the distribution of women like one might centrally plan the distribution of food? You might think that this is retarded because more men are born than women, so a male surplus exists until people are around middle-aged, but the solution to this is the beauty of the system - men can be prioritised foids and receive better foids in comparison to their PSL standing than they would have otherwise as a result of their actions. WHAT YOU DO affects your ability to find a mate. Whether you get a good hole (or a hole at all, by not being at the bottom of the barrel) depends on your actions, dare I say maybe even your personality in a roundabout way. Ideally this wouldn't just mean people responsibly wielding power but also firefighters, doctors, surgeons, people in professions that require a high degree of skill/are greatly in demand would receive better foids. Men in professions with high cognitive demands could be paired with similarly intelligent foids by the state so they don't throw away their genes, and the same could be done to help self-starters who were lucky and quick on their feet but lacked intelligence beyond a standard deviation above the mean.Things that get you uglier women, fatter (although ideally there would be a state exercise program for both genders) women or women with histories of being fuckups include being a criminal, being lazy, being unproductive, being a degenerate, etc basically everything that should be penalised in a Marxist-Leninist single party state. Jeremy Meeks would be forced into inceldom by the state so he doesn't spread his high time preference retard genes along with drug addict normalfags who knife people, while the succulent-titted JBs fawning over Richard Ramirez would be redirected by the committee to soldiers and people who use violence in a productive way instead. If fat women still exist there could be an opt-in system for chubby chasers to fast-track themselves getting a fat foid (maybe with the choice of getting one possibly with or explicitly without a thyroid condition but idk because nobody really wants a sickly woman), which would have to save at least a few average-looking skinny foids for the everyday labourer who might have otherwise received a toothless ex-heroin addict. There's probably niggas who are into chicks with fucked up teeth, overbites, sunken eyes, very short height and what have you, let them opt in to that so the average man gets good genetic material and we can only pray that the opt-ins were opposites attracting. All in all there should be opt-ins for a bunch of generally-negative foid traits under the pretext that you would be allocated yours quicker and for less life success, I could certainly see myself opting for a foid that is a certain degree of overweight that isn't horrifying (although adding sub-categories into this could exacerbate the problems it set out to solve so maybe not), is tall enough to be considered undesirable by foid standards (for my genetic good) or that has high-functioning autism (less able to play foid games) if possible. I do however also hope that the state would have enough foids to compensate me with a decent one (no single motherhood, no stds, no hard drug abuse history) for being in a profession that requires skills slightly above those of the average bear in the socialist successor of a pozzed service economy by the time I apply (no more than an electrician in my case, I'm not Einstein, but then again tradies get hot wives here so it can't be that bad) and for not having any major heritable genetic diseases (my old relatives are all still kicking at the average death age).tbh this seems like lifefuel for STEMcels moreso than anything, but non-NEETcels would probably be pretty satisfied with what they get too and half the people here who are completely unproductive claim they would fuck anything that moves anyway. This seems like a better system than the current one, in which by the age of 30 a third more women have children than men do (Chads literally impregnating all the women and creating fucked up single mother households, there is an article in the Helsinki Times about it). Inkeltears is happy because being a decent human bean that self improves now gets you a foid, and inkels who are useless sacks of shit aren't rewarded for doing nothing. Chads have just as many, if not somewhat more, opportunities than the average Joe to succeed so it's not like they've been sent to death camps for their god-tier zygos, they should be happy. The younger generation that is only just beginning to enter the sexual marketplace, but that enters the worst one in recent history will become happier. Male feminist retards vocally opposed to this while it's being implemented won't be made happy but they won't be able to frown anymore. Women will probably be happier when they're not careerist whores even if the government treats them as resources, expect less antidepressants being pissed into the water supply. Shit tier women and men will be paired with eachother and be in conditions that make it harder for them to breed, instant eugenics.The men whose daughters are being allocated would be compensated in some way for raising them, preferrably by making their retirements better so they don't end up drowning their useless daughters en-masse for being unable to provide them that like a son can.Overall I don't see any downsides to this when the tinderisation of the sexual marketplace is the alternative. Why not just abolish the sexual market economy altogether? We have nothing to lose but our chains.", " TAJU SOY BUNSHIN NO JUTSUU!!! This is too long for PedoTears's small child molesting brains to handle so they'll just skim it and make you look EVIL.", "gigacel123 said: TAJU SOY BUNSHIN NO JUTSUU!!! This is too long for PedoTears's small child molesting brains to handle so they'll just skim it and make you look EVIL.The only part they need to read is the part about distributing women as a commodity. You can't just be like lol IncelTears. You have to explain to them why it makes sense to treat humans as sex slaves.", "Didn't read, but I thought the title said Maximum Rodgerism and it was going to be a thread about how you can maximise your... Rodgerism.", "This would motivate men to work and provide to society.Nowadays,more and more men are refusing to do so and become NEETs because there isn't any reward to wageslave.It is a good plan,but normie NPC brains are too dumb to realise it and will once again mock us for wanting to enslave and objectify wahmen ", "TheGambler2 said:will once again mock us for wanting to enslave and objectify wahmen The worst part of this is that women are already enslaving and objectifying themselves in front of them. It would be better if doing this was placed back into the hands of men who cared about society functioning like an engine that didn't damage its parts.", "This is the only solution - all the tradcon regression just leads to a few rich fucks at the top hoarding all the pussyWait how new is this thread? I don't wan to necro" ]
What is your opinion on black girls
[ "I heard they were considered the most undesirable for women because of there masculine like attitude towards men. What are your thoughts?", "black skincel 2 said:because of there masculine like attitude towards mendont you mean bc of their more masculine looks? Anyway Volcel if you wouldnt", "Most of them are ugly imo", "Would fuck, wouldn't breed.", "Not worth my time.", "I find them attractive. On average, they’re probably not as pretty as other races, but a really attractive black woman blows all other types of women away.", "shady account. dont care much for them because they dont want me, like all races of women", "Attractive black women blow all the others out of the water", "I would smash a black female ngl", "who was black skincel 1?", "Volcel if you're not into. While they have the highest percentage of unattractive foids of any race, most of them are good and fuckable. I don't get why the black pigment is a disqualifier for many.", "They disgust me tbh", "I have natural aversion to other races", "there loud but i would fuck them not date them", "PolishMisanthrope said:Volcel if you're not into. While they have the highest percentage of unattractive foids of any race, most of them are good and fuckable. I don't get why the black pigment is a disqualifier for many.Volcel if you wouldn't tbh but I can see why their attitudes are a turn off", "gigacel123 said:Attractive black women blow all the others out of the water", "I don't care about race as long as she is at least 4/10 and not fat", "@BRCel123 @wereqryan @NoMoreSlavingMods plz dont ban me (making a point)If anyone ITT wouldn't smash the foid above because she's black you're a volcel.Edit: Now that I think about it, you're a faggot if you wouldn't.", "Hey IT", "Not much different from white foids IMO. In terms of behaviour and personality nowadays. Some black foids could even be more traditional than white ones.", "There's not many attractive black women out there. The black women who are have white mixed in them or they have white features.", "Ugly faces but they have very nice asses. They may be a bit more agressive but some of the nicest foids I've met were black, they tend to have a very motherlike personality, it's a bit hard to put it into words properly. Less bitchy and more cheerful than white foids basically.Like most people here, I'd be happy to date/fuck them but I don't consider them LTR material because I don't want half-black children.", "The none obese ones are OK I suppose. I don't like their general attitudes though, like the ones who think they're queens who deserve the best [maybe that's true of most foids now though] and who are only after rich sports stars [footballers, basketball players] even if they're ugly fat ho's, but it's more American black foids that are like that. None would be interested in me anyway really.", "Hate_my_life said:", "My least favorite. Find them unattractive.", "Irrelevant to me, as all women regardless of color. Par for the course in terms of general foidery. Perhaps a little more honest about it, at least, which is something I guess.", "99% of black girl are ugly", "jerrycan dan said:who was black skincel 1?Doesn’t look like there was one.", "44 guest= 44th president Obama.Volcel if you wouldn’t. Unless there worn out and mean as shit.", "PolishMisanthrope said:Volcel if you're not into. While they have the highest percentage of unattractive foids of any race, most of them are good and fuckable. I don't get why the black pigment is a disqualifier for many.They have a low iq and high testosterone which makes them aggressive and loud. I guess you have never seen black women in real life.", "IamLost said:They have a low iq and high testosterone which makes them aggressive and loud. I guess you have never seen black women in real life.Have you ever seen a high IQ foid or one that isn't aggressive and loud with an incel?", "Some are really fucking hot. And others are really fucking ugly. Yes I know it's a video game character but Sheva Alomar from Resident Evil 5 is hot as balls to me.", "Hate_my_life said:faggot if you wouldn't.", "Volcel if you wouldn't.But from what I see on the internet (never knew a black woman irl) they are dumb as fuck, speak in a weird language, are interested only in their nails, often are morbidly obese and they seem to hate men under 180 cm even more than white stacies.", "Mavenes said:100% of black girls are ugly", "Not best at being cute adorable lolis of culture. Good at being loud annoying sluts", "Black girls are ulgy and annoying af", "Most of them are ugly.", "Nope. I find them very grotesque looking. Show me a random group of 20 black women, and I will only find 5 moderately attractive. In a same sample size, i would be attracted to 15 white or Hispanic foids. Then there’s that vile, disgusting, short tempered attitude that they have (SJW media calls this “sass”). The “nice” black women I have met are clearly fake, I can see through it. Source: grew up in a black neighborhood", "Ugly, low iq, obnoxious. The hot ones have Caucasian features. The fat nose, fat lip, etc.. traits they normally have are awful", "Hate_my_life said:@BRCel123 @wereqryan @NoMoreSlaving 120905Mods plz dont ban me (making a point)If anyone ITT wouldn't smash the foid above because she's black you're a volcel.Edit: Now that I think about it, you're a faggot if you wouldn't.I'd smash that. Nothing wrong with a bit of jungle fever", "Most of them are ugly and obnoxious from what I've seen", "LittleDarkAge said:Most of them are ugly and obnoxious from what I've seenThat’s majority of blacks in general. Whenever I go to break at work there is always a group laughing,talking, hollering very loud like fucking animals it’s ridiculous", "73 guests ", "Cuyen said:Would fuck, wouldn't breed.", "Black woman are the third most attractive in the world, as well as the only races more attractive than blacks are the whites and the mixeds between black and white.I dont understand the general hate against black woman here, black woman MOG TO HELL noodle and currywhores.", "I would fuck a tree if a vagina was attached to it.", "Cuyen said:Would fuck, wouldn't breed.", "By far the most obnoxious and unattractive foids", "Insomniac said:By far the most obnoxious and unattractive foidswould you fuck one ?", "real truecel said:speak in a weird languageprobably the best way I've seen ebonics referred to tbh", "Some of the ones at my Uni are attractive af", "Cuyen said:would you fuck one ?If she was attractive enough, yes bro.Most black foids are ugly though", "80% of the ones in my area are obese and obnoxious crazy ghetto bitches, never gotten hard to one but if i grew up in an environment where they were more classy i would have a much higher opinion of thembtw hope OP is not infiltrator from IT seems suspicious making this thread as his first post", "ihaveno1 said:80% of the ones in my area are obese and obnoxious crazy ghetto bitches, never gotten hard to one but if i grew up in an environment where they were more classy i would have a much higher opinion of thembtw hope OP is not infiltrator from IT seems suspicious making this thread as his first postI tried getting with one once since I heard they were easy to get, but got rejected hard after she said that she liked light skinned men", "HighTGymcel said:A lot of protein though.", "LastGerman said:A lot of protein though.too much bad fats and carbs", "black skincel 2 said:I heard they were considered the most undesirable for women because of there masculine like attitude towards men. What are your thoughts?The vast majority of black women are ugly not to mention have a nasty attitude. I have only ever liked one black girl in my life.", "BRCel123 said:Most of them are ugly imothey usually really bitchy ", "Hate_my_life said:@BRCel123 @wereqryan @NoMoreSlaving 120905Mods plz dont ban me (making a point)If anyone ITT wouldn't smash the foid above because she's black you're a volcel.Edit: Now that I think about it, you're a faggot if you wouldn't.that's honestly what I think too", "KilluminoidBR said:Black woman are the third most attractive in the world, as well as the only races more attractive than blacks are the whites and the mixeds between black and white.I dont understand the general hate against black woman here, black woman MOG TO HELL noodle and currywhores.Cope, Asian foids can be crazy hot where only a few black women I consider attractive", "I'd be happy to date a black woman", "Cuyen said:Would fuck, wouldn't breed.", "black skincel 2 said:I tried getting with one once since I heard they were easy to get, but got rejected hard after she said that she liked light skinned menTell us about the light vs. dark skinned divide in the black community. How real is it, how prevalent is it, is it openly discussed?", "DaveBuster said:Tell us about the light vs. dark skinned divide in the black community. How real is it, how prevalent is it, is it openly discussed?Yeah,especially at school. Apparently light skins are more desired since they are the closest thing to white people if they can't obtain one. Even Boondocks references how black woman or people in general prefer light skins than dark ones.", "Idc man you are volcel if you pick and choose. As long as its my looksmatch she can be any race.", "EcuntR said:Cope, Asian foids can be crazy hot where only a few black women I consider attractiveAsian foids have NO ASS faggot ", "Flat is the best", "If she breath", "Cuyen said:Would fuck, wouldn't breed.Based once again.", "Azaylias said:I really don't find them attractive, they're just too loud and masculine.Same. I'm black and I find black women to be the ugliest of all females. Fucking a black female is also risky since black women have the most STDs and on top of that, you can end up paying for a kid that might not be yours since black women never use birth control.", "some can be attractive but many are ghetto trash low iq probably std infected that are used to big dicks.", "KilluminoidBR said:e, black woman MOG TO HELL noodle and currywhores.Weird. is this just your opinion or does the majority here think like that. Personally :noodle > cumskins > curries > nigress", "Fat, crude, mean, and nearly all have veneral disease.No thanks.", "black skincel 2 said:I heard they were considered the most undesirable for women because of there masculine like attitude towards men. What are your thoughts?in my country, italy there are million african immigrants, but 90% of them are male.99% of the african girls I have seen here are extremely unattractive.", "If I could get a hoodrat gf with a weave and a good hip/waist ratio, I wouldn't be here.Inb4 Just thugmaxx br0. Cope.", "I'll let you know when i get one to talk to me.", "Unattractive. A decent amount of admixture from another race genes can redeem black genes in a mixed individual though.", "light skins are ok", "All of them are pretty ugly and they should improve their personalities and also shower", "i would date them without thinking twice", "I don't care about skin colour, I just want to be loved! If you wouldn't take a black chick you're 110% volcel.", "Hate_my_life said:@BRCel123 @wereqryan @NoMoreSlaving 120905Mods plz dont ban me (making a point)If anyone ITT wouldn't smash the foid above because she's black you're a volcel.Edit: Now that I think about it, you're a faggot if you wouldn't.damn that girl is fine", "I like em cause they got ass. Too bad they treat me like shit for no reason getting angry at me simply for saying ok. Like, I get it im a fucking low status male if you don't like me just leave me the fuck alone at least other foids leave me alone but black ones always want to make me suffer.", "The hood personality is the biggest turn off. It's not feminine at all.", "I don't find many of them attractive, but would date/have sex with one of the okay ones. Obviously I wouldn't marry one, but that isn't to do with race", "Hate_my_life said:@BRCel123 @wereqryan @NoMoreSlaving 120905Mods plz dont ban me (making a point)If anyone ITT wouldn't smash the foid above because she's black you're a volcel.Edit: Now that I think about it, you're a faggot if you wouldn't.For some reason I don’t find her attractive", "Well I think we have to classify black women as black from South Africa, aboriginal like Australia or...Black foids from South America. They are not so pure afro anymore, and can certainly be attractive.I used to be a SF cel, wasted the better part of my life by rejecting black foids.But now my priorities have changed, I know I will ascend soon and it will be with a black foid. I don't give a fuck what people say anymore.", "real truecel said:Volcel if you wouldn't.This", "Ask Tyrone.", "black skincel 2 said:I heard they were considered the most undesirable for women because of there masculine like attitude towards men. What are your thoughts?Fucking love them they are the most honest most black pilled and they happen to be pretty good looking if i was black i would go for them i', starting believe most curry cel's here are either larper's or self hater's their is no way an Indian man is gonna ramble on this much about fucking white women what is the appeal what is so interesting about them i never got this obsession same with Asian foid's have you seen some of these Asian bitches the only reason i go for them is cause i'm Asian i would go for black's but race mixing is a cancer to be fair dude i love their honesty their the most honest women you will ever find that is what i love about them.", "Pretty much all the escorts who've given me decent service have been black. One of my favorites was like an Oreo but in reverse (white outside black inside). In fact, out of the dozens of non-black escorts I've seen, I can only think of two exceptions besides the aforementioned Oreo girl.", "ordinaryotaku said:There's not many attractive black women out there. The black women who are have white mixed in them or they have white features.ThisI have had a friend site Beyonce as an example of an attractive black person, I then mentioned to him that it is the fact that she has white admixture that is attractive(I said all this irl btw)Also, my opinion is that black chicks are nice people, but some are sassy and rudeI also noticed the lighterskinned a blackchick is, the hotter she is, but the eviler she isexp. my ex oneitis was an octoroon and she was very evil", "Most of them are ugly as fuck but I find some cute as fuck. Ive been watching a lot of ebony porn lately, I would love to date a cute black girl, but as a whitecel I probably wouldnt do it. Not that I can anyway", "obese, ghetto attitudes,ugly faces, nappy hair, and they hate me.", "Not even black men seem to be attracted to them for the most part. Always found that weird.There are a few I find very attractive in porn but it's not common.", "There exists some very busty ebony hot girls.Yes indeed.But...From where i am from, there are none of them...", "Black chicks tend to be the nicest out of all the races . . . unless you a simpy nigga, then they treat you like shit.", "tanfeo said:wasted the better part of my life by rejecting black foidsWhat the fuck, people like you shouldn't be here.", "Ethnic Natsoc said:What the fuck, people like you shouldn't be here.The same can be said about escortcels. Was there anything else?", "Some black girls are hot but they're still foids. Honestly just don't want to deal with their estrogenic bullshit. Plus black girls tend to act a little too masculine", "No white girls only thanks.", "tanfeo said:The same can be said about escortcels.No because at least they are unable to have romantic relationships or sex without paying. You could have had both and rejected that thus you're not a real incel.", "there is a trend of ricecels hooking up with black women in New York City, since both are the lowest on the dating totem poll.", "ooga booga filthy nigger monkey ooga booga", "Ticcel said:I find them attractive. On average, they’re probably not as pretty as other races, but a really attractive black woman blows all other types of women away.most men agree to this.Also as a black guy, im more generally attarcted to them.", "Would prefer some loud mouthed sassy nigger with a fat ass over some meek robotic chinese gook with the figure of a teenage boy.", "black skincel 2 said:I heard they were considered the most undesirable for women because of there masculine like attitude towards men. What are your thoughts?Doggy style is alright. Don't gotta see the face and the booty is ripe for some smashing. Not that I would know.", "michael2222 said:The hood personality is the biggest turn off. It's not feminine at all." ]
ExperimentHey incel bros. Chadfish is back and he is about to show you the Do’s and Don’ts of tinder. And remember it’s all about confident.
[ "Alright let’s start with the # 1 mistake guys make! Being too sexual! Don’t do that, girls don’t like thirsty guys they like gentlemen’s. See the examples below:Next tip, you have to be nice to them and not a mean. Girls absolutely don’t like guys who are mean and disrespectful as you can see:And finally you can’t gotta give them attention!If you follow these tips, you too will have a inbox like this, full of girls willing to jump on your dick without even knowing your name!And remember, it’s not about looks at all! Women are not shallow! They just want a nice loving loyal guy!Gl bros. I am off to Stacy’s house. She really likes my personality.", "Reddit_is_for_cucks said: 120989Weighted blanket! She's special! ", "Reddit_is_for_cucks said: 120994Damn she really looks like Eggy.", "Wish me luck im trying these tips", "This is fucking ragefuel boyo. I'm pissed ngl.", "Reddit_is_for_cucks said:Did you just call me a Joe", "Pure ragefuel", "what happened to chadfishman tbh? was he banned or something?in any case, I've grown to enjoy these tbh.Seeing the true nature of roasties put things back in perspective...", "Potent ERfuel there.", "This is sick. Almost enough to send me to Emergency Room", "can you imagine all the ugly guys who worked on these apps programming them hoping it would get them laid, but just resulted in chads getting more sex and average men getting none. the graph of men who don't have sex started rising around the same time of social media.", "Reddit_is_for_cucks said: 120991She could tell how good his personality was just by looking at him.", "refmd said:can you imagine all the ugly guys who worked on these apps programming them hoping it would get them laid, but just resulted in chads getting more sex and average men getting none. the graph of men who don't have sex started rising around the same time of social media.Holy shit I never even thought of that, those guys must hate themselves right about now", "BraccusRex said:Pure ragefuelSecondComing said:Potent ERfuel there.", "Theres nothing we can do at this point.", "FrothySolutions said:Weighted blanket! She's special! What even is a weights blanket lmao", "Reddit_is_for_cucks said:What even is a weights blanket lmaoIt's for autistic children.", "Nah bBlkPillPres said:Holy shit I never even thought of that, those guys must hate themselves right about now nah bro they are all bluepilled cucks who are trying to improve their personality and take pictures in exotic places to improve their profile.Meanwhile chad takes a shirtless selfie in a bathroom and get 200 times the matches.These cucks are running on a self improvement hamster wheel that will only stop once they are dead", "Cucktears wont touch this", "refmd said:can you imagine all the ugly guys who worked on these apps programming them hoping it would get them laid, but just resulted in chads getting more sex and average men getting none. the graph of men who don't have sex started rising around the same time of social media.The incels who worked on tinder are the ultimate incel Toms", "It's depressing seeing how women behave around a man they are attracted to. I'll never experience that. It makes me sad", "BlkPillPres said:Holy shit I never even thought of that, those guys must hate themselves right about nowJews don't care, they made money.michael2222 said:It's depressing seeing how women behave around a man they are attracted to. I'll never experience that. It makes me sadJekyll & Hyde syndrome.", "tinder experiments are the most suifuel inducing", "Haha", "Well that sums it all up, doesn't it? 37 guest, hi cucktears!", "Absolute Ragefuel and Suicidefuel at the same time.", "Dont forget the ones who have in their bio Dont just write hey, send something unique and funny/ give me ur best pick up line teehee, meanwhile chad can just send hi and she replies.Lets also not ignore the same females who write the above bs, are the same ones who are hypocritical and will just send hey to get chads attention, and of course chad will apply because men are thirsty.", "Bitch really do look like eggy tho ", "I absolutelly love such content. It's golden.", "Godzuki said:Bitch really do look like eggy tho LOL. She thinks it's a compliment.", "you look like eggy ", "JFL, their true nature is enough to just make you want to throw up. ", "gigacel123 said: LOL. She thinks it's a compliment.Modus Coperandi said:you look like eggy Godzuki said:Bitch really do look like eggy tho Lmao that bitch legit looked like eggys looksmatch. Fact that normies and chadlites are messaging eggys looksmatch is the definition of it’s over", "you look like eggy ", "michael2222 said:It's depressing seeing how women behave around a man they are attracted to. I'll never experience that. It makes me sadI want to fucking die. What hope do men like us have against shit like this? It truly is over ", "Anytime I feel like trying to ascend I see a post like this I am reminded that no point on trying and Im back to my LDAR routine.", "Subhuman Gamercel said:Anytime I feel like trying to ascend I see a post like this I am reminded that no point on trying and Im back to my LDAR routine.", "Subhuman Gamercel said:Anytime I feel like trying to ascend I see a post like this I am reminded that no point on trying and Im back to my LDAR routine.No greater blackpill than chadfish...kills all hopeWhen I tried it each time a little piece of my soul died..OPs heart must be a black lump of coal after all he has done", "Reddit_is_for_cucks said: 120992 120994these are insane! lmaoooo meme gender.nice work bro ", "My fav threads: makes it easier for me to ignore women knowing it's this fucking hopeless today.", "Reddit_is_for_cucks said:Damn Eggy trapmaxxed", "I'm serious roping after seeing this.", "Reddit_is_for_cucks said:Alright let’s start with the # 1 mistake guys make! Being too sexual! Don’t do that, girls don’t like thirsty guys they like gentlemen’s. See the examples below: 120986 120987 120988 120989Next tip, you have to be nice to them and not a mean. Girls absolutely don’t like guys who are mean and disrespectful as you can see: 120991 120992 120993 120994And finally you can’t gotta give them attention! 120995 120996If you follow these tips, you too will have a inbox like this, full of girls willing to jump on your dick without even knowing your name! 120998 120997And remember, it’s not about looks at all! Women are not shallow! They just want a nice loving loyal guy!Gl bros. I am off to Stacy’s house. She really likes my personality.I tried something a lot like this and it didn't work, idk maybe tinder kept my old score; even Chad can't get matches with my abysmal visibility rating", "Godzuki said:Bitch really do look like eggy tho Modus Coperandi said:you look like eggy KEK eggy looksmatch is fucking chads on tinder is fuckiing over hey man I'm sure they liked you for your personality look how engaged they are on talking with you, there is no other explanation just show yourself to them I'm sure they will love to know you. ", "I might try some day, lifefuel", "No reason to breathe if you aren't chad", "real truecel said:Damn she really looks like Eggy.", "Reddit_is_for_cucks said:These cucks are running on a self improvement hamster wheel that will only stop once they are dead", "thanks for the advice bro!", "Incel801 said:No greater blackpill than chadfish...kills all hopeWhen I tried it each time a little piece of my soul died..OPs heart must be a black lump of coal after all he has doneIt’s brutal bro, that’s why I had to take a 1 year break cuz I became so suicidal after seeing the reality.It’s like someone gave a crystal ball to a homeless African kid where he see how billionaires in west live with unlimited food, big houses, hot girls everywhere (unlimited sex) , and etc.And then realizing my fault was being born in this body, if I was born in his body there would be no sufferingsepelion said:My fav threads: makes it easier for me to ignore women knowing it's this fucking hopeless today.It’s hopeless today? It’s hopeless everyday broooooooooo", "Reddit_is_for_cucks said:It’s brutal bro, that’s why I had to take a 1 year break cuz I became so suicidal after seeing the reality.It’s like someone gave a crystal ball to a homeless African kid where he see how billionaires in west live with unlimited food, big houses, hot girls everywhere (unlimited sex) , and etc.And then realizing my fault was being born in this body, if I was born in his body there would be no sufferingIt’s hopeless today? It’s hopeless everyday brooooooooooI've been chad fishing recently and it is quite painful to see the difference in my life based solely on my appearance.", "SecondComing said:Potent ERfuel there.", "JFL @ Eggywoman ", "Wow im follow your tips and now i have a date with a 16 years old stacy", "investigatorcel said:Wow im follow your tips and now i have a date with a 16 years old stacyGG boyo, remember to be confident on your first date! Or else she will sense your incel personality", "Jfl, EGGY'S LITERAL LOOKSMATCH IS ON TINDER WHORING FOR CHADS, THIS IS CONCRETE PROOF OF LOOKSMATCH THEORY@Reddit_is_for_cucks Which Chad did you use btw?", "Quality post.", "Log in after two weeks I've finally made it to CuckTearsChadfish is finally backit's a fucking good day bros", "Lonelycel said:Jfl, EGGY'S LITERAL LOOKSMATCH IS ON TINDER WHORING FOR CHADS, THIS IS CONCRETE PROOF OF LOOKSMATCH THEORY@Reddit_is_for_cucks Which Chad did you use btw?", "That Eggy lookalike really made my day. ", "Mik_TFL said:That Eggy lookalike really made my day. She really do be looking like eggy tho", "Reddit_is_for_cucks said:She really do be looking like eggy thoHaha based Necro", "Fucking chads having sex with every breathing thing dude ", "SecondComing said:Potent ERfuel there.", "This should be in Must-Read Content tbh.", "Reddit_is_for_cucks said:She really do be looking like eggy tho" ]
ExperimentAnyone like the person they become when drunk?
[ "I do. When sober I am very introverted, high inhib and anxiety riddled. But when I’m drunk I become NT, funnier, extroverted, and just overall a cool person. I can honestly say I like the person I become when I’m wasted.Meant to post this in off topic. Mods feel free to move.", "I fucking love being drunk. However I don't know what kind of person I become because I get drunk alone...in my room....and cope with video games. Other than that it's a good cope, in fact the best cope. Until you're sober again.", "Sometimes I can be angry and aggressive when drunkvso have to be careful", "I’ve only ever drank once. But it was nowhere near enough to get me drunk (about half a shot of whiskey). But I certainly want to try more. ", "IlIlllllIlIl said:I fucking love being drunk. However I don't know what kind of person I become because I get drunk alone...in my room....and cope with video games. Other than that it's a good cope, in fact the best cope. Until you're sober again.I can’t stand drinking by myself. I’m alone 99% of the time so when I do get drunk I like to be with a group to show off this different person I become. I like being the center of attention and making people laugh when drunk. Also to clarify I’m oldcel and very rarely get drunk anymore. But when I do this is what I enjoy about it.", "i am much better drunk", "never been drunk so i don't know. i would probably just be the way i am sober except more dizzy", "Ellsworth said:I do. When sober I am very introverted, high inhib and anxiety riddled. But when I’m drunk I become NT, funnier, extroverted, and just overall a cool person. I can honestly say I like the person I become when I’m wasted.Yes, I love being drunk it seems to make all my problems go away, all the pain and misery I feel about being ugly and alone for forever seems to disappear and I become a more social and I hate to say this but confident person. I know if I want to a party or club drunk and if I was at least an average looking white guy then I wouldn't be as suicidal as I already am.", "I start to feel better when I'm half drunk. I'm normal when I'm half drunk, but my brain is filled with more positive thoughts. But sometimes, a crushing angry death stare from a foid or seeing a young couple can take a hard blow at that and I become sad almost immediately.", "Not really, getting drunk makes me feel good but it doesn't make me more extroverted or cool, it just makes me more aggressive.", "I become more low inhib when I am drunk, but I must drink much to notice any big difference. I have quite high alcohol tolerance ngl. I didn't drink for a long time though.", "Yes, being drunk turns me into a really cool, low inhib, guy who is even capable of leading a conversation. MDMA me is also a quit interesting guy.", "Being drunk hasn't really such a big effect on me that I become another person.It's pretty much still me and in certain situations I can become more joking, open and low inhibitation without any alcohol, so it never really feels like alcohol does anything.I pretty much just because sluggish.But you know that might not be true, given that I am a social drinker and I am not really social. lol", "I become much more sad Im a total failure", "I become more chill. Normies just hate me more because of that, they don't like seeing subhuman chilling and laughing at their bluepilled coping.", "Ellsworth said:I do. When sober I am very introverted, high inhib and anxiety riddled. But when I’m drunk I become NT, funnier, extroverted, and just overall a cool person. I can honestly say I like the person I become when I’m wasted.Meant to post this in off topic. Mods feel free to move.Same.", "Drinking is just another cope. Don't delude yourselves into thinking it makes you more interesting, funny, or sociable. You're still a sub human and this thread reeks of larping faggots and alphabet agents cucks", "I don't drink because alcohol is for degenerates. Alcohol also ruins the mind because it fogs up the truth and doesn't allow for the person to face the world for what it truly is.", "I become a violent raving trigger-happy lunatic when I'm drunk. I'd be more likely to open fire on a female than open conversation.So naturally, when I drink, I do it alone.", "seija said:don't drink because alcohol is for degenerates.And you are underage man.", "seija said:I don't drink because alcohol is for degenerates", "I’m pretty much the same person when under the influence of anything with a few slightly exaggerated mannerisms", "Ive never been drunk because I don't have friends and Ive never been in any kind of social gathering. And I live with my parents so I can't get drunk alone", "Don't care too much.At least I won't feel like shit", "Booze is a double edged sword. I feel well medicated only during a very short window. The rest of the binge is just apparent alcohol abuse and it's not charming.", "I'm pissed up 24/7 as I'm a dependant alcoholic, don't remember what sober me is even like anymore.", "Blacktarpill said:And you are underage man.underage ", "I prefer me after a line of coke. Stimulants obliterate all social anxiety to the point of being a temporary currycel tier low inhib", "Joelossus said:Yes, being drunk turns me into a really cool, low inhib, guy who is even capable of leading a conversation. MDMA me is also a quit interesting guy.Sounds like alcohol has a similar effect on us. I always wanted to try Ecstasy when I was younger but never got around to it.", "I end up crying every time I drink.Happened to me once while at work. Got really drunk after helping with the sound on a private party at night." ]
TeeHeeThis post ACTUALLY details what an encounter with an incel is like
[ "Going back in time a bit when I landed in the UK - pre meeting that guy on Tinder - I was waiting in line to get through customs when this noticeably short guy bumped me from behind. I was standing still and the line wasn't moving, so it was kinda weird that it happened, but he was immediately like, oh man, sorry about that, so I told him it was alright. He bumped me in a way that made it so that he ended up a little in front of me, but after a second of what looked like hesitation more than anything else he let out a quiet oh shit, sorry, turned around, and shuffled back behind me. Was he trying to cut into the line? He had a recessed jaw, a fivehead, a snub nose and dark bags under his eyes even though his gaze was attentive and he seemed well-rested. I told him that it was alright a second time, although my response was delayed by my brief examination of his face.Now he was standing behind me, though, which felt weird. I felt the need to periodically turn my head around and glance at him to make sure he didn't try touching me or anything. After the first few times I did it he noticed and started looking down at the floor. He coughed once shortly after that and I really hoped he wouldn't start trying to make small talk with me. A what's your name?, what brings you to the UK? or a who are you visiting? would have made my time spend in line with this weirdo feel like an eternity. I think I heard him breathing wheezily at one point too (which would make sense, he certainly looked like he was in poor health).I wished to myself that the man waiting behind me would disappear into some atemporal realm from which he could never bother me again, but then I felt bad about that. That's not a nice way to feel about anyone, what would all my friends think if they heard me say stuff like that? Stacy would think I was such a bitch. I glanced back at him again and caught sight of his greasy forehead situated a couple of inches under mine. This guy really doesn't take care of himself, huh? He looks like one of the dudes you'd find on r/neckbeardstories or r/niceguys, yikes.He was using some kind of google phone I didn't recognise too. Get an iphone dude, an android maybe seeing as that'd be more up to your speed, but not this. What? Who are you dude, why are you so weird? He was browsing what looked like 4chan on his phone too, although he pretty quickly noticed I was watching him and jammed his phone into his pocket awkwardly without even pressing the button to turn off the screen.The help helpers I saw on the screen of his phone made me wonder - was this guy a misogynist racist incel? He certainly looked like one. Did he hate girls because they're selfish or whatever inkels say they are? I'm sure if this virgin tried smalltalk with me he would have some truly colourful openers. If his heart did harbour a burning hatred for 50% of humanity I could almost certainly smell it from here (metaphorically, of course; all I could smell was airport, although the incel standing behind me certainly looked like he smelled). He was probably everything I was worried my 4 year old son back in America would one day turn into - an angry, entitled permavirgin with no confidence who spent his time on imageboards instead of with friends or with a girlfriend like normal people choose to. I calmed myself down and tried not to pay attention to him anymore.Suddenly, the incel let out an excuse me that I could tell had been directed up at my ear. I turned around quickly, just in time before he tapped my shoulder with one of his spindly little fingers (his hands were smaller than mine), and let out a stern what? to make it clear I wasn't interested in being hit on. He sighed, hesitated for a second and then asked, Is this the non-UK passport line? When he spoke to me directly and didn't mumble I got to fully appreciate (in the same way that one appreciates the sound of nails on a chalkboard) the high-pitched, nasally voice that his small body managed to project out of his mouth. Regretting even asking him what he wanted, I quickly snapped back that it was indeed the non-UK passport line, and that he should look at the sign (even though the sign was blank on the side facing us and was only visible to people entering the line). He sounded intimidated by me, probably because I was a femoid.Two teenage girls standing behind us, both slightly taller than him, glanced at him when he spoke as if to say woah, that was a bit of a yikes. I'm no social genius, but maybe you should only try to strike up a conversation with somebody when they actually want to talk to you and it'll go better.I'm feeling really uncomfortable at this point. I thought it was weird he bumped me when the line wasn't moving, I thought it was weird he tried to manipulate the situation so I'd stand next to him or he could cut in, I thought it was weird that he used alt-right websites, also stop breathing so loudly please. I really hope he doesn't try to touch me again. I didn't feel unsafe or anything, because, I mean, customs at the airport is probably one of the safest and most security-guarded places you can be, and there are plenty of people around, but he's still a scraggy-looking napoleon complex weirdo in a hoodie with crazy in his eyes. It got quiet again because I wasnt really trying my hardest to keep up the conversation and it stayed that way, I think he got the message and decided to stay away from me.As I left the line I heard the two teenage girls jokingly tell him that it was nice meeting him and they called him a nerd. Serves him right.", "Why those creatures has access to wasting resources on creating stoopid girlie cartoons like this shit", "This is too much... She needs to be skinned alive.", "everyday my desire to murder these disgusting foids grows even stronger.", "Neither gonna read nor watch this, because i know it will ruin my day.", "Wow, pretty much what I thought goes through their brains.Would be interesting if the situation was exactly the same in every way except it was chad what her thoughts would be", "Joelossus said:Neither gonna read nor watch this, because i know it will ruin my day.", "That was a bit of a yikes ", "noticeably short guyHe had a recessed jaw, a fivehead, a snub nose and dark bags under his eyes even though his gaze was attentive and he seemed well-rested.I think I heard him breathing wheezily at one point too (which would make sense, he certainly looked like he was in poor health). This guy really doesn't take care of himself, huh? He looks like one of the dudes you'd find on r/neckbeardstories or r/niceguys, yikes. I could almost certainly smell it from here (metaphorically, of course; all I could smell was airport, although the incel standing behind me certainly looked like he smelled) When he spoke to me directly and didn't mumble I got to fully appreciate (in the same way that one appreciates the sound of nails on a chalkboard) the high-pitched, nasally voice that his small body managed to project out of his mouth. Two teenage girls standing behind us, both slightly taller than him, glanced at him when he spoke as if to say woah, that was a bit of a yikes. also stop breathing so loudly please. but he's still a scraggy-looking napoleon complex weirdo in a hoodie with crazy in his eyes.Holy shit.", "Just get an iPhone dude", "Used to watch that cunt back in the days. These Story Time youtubers really live boring livesto make over the top videos about mundane shit like that.He probably just tried his best. Than he gets mocked with a video from someone with over 6 mil subscribers ", "Incels are autistic chadlite PUAs now?", "Holy shit,i have a gut feeling that the blonde guy in that video is a low inhib MGTOWtard.That or the bitch is lying", "Hentai-Connoisseur said:. These Story Time youtubers really live boring livesto make over the top videos about mundane shit like that.cope, they lifemog the fuck out of me and probably you tooThe past few months of my life have been about as varied as one long ten minute period, it's a blur with only general trends. What you been up to in order to come up with a sentence like this?Akhnai said:Holy shit,i have a gut feeling that the blonde guy in that video is a low inhib MGTOWtard.That or the bitch is lyingMGTOW+being on the spectrum could equal this happening but it'd need to be pretty severe MGTOW and pretty severe tism.", "So many channels that make up bullshit stories just so they can get teenage girls to watch their shitty animations.", "i will fucking destroy all femoids. 213ioekwrmgvbe<srfbespxvjbh q<xv medxm buqwm bjcedxm, i deserve everything in this world and yet i get none. fucknuedsfuon edsuhwenfc djedsv cuidsjfbichoef dead is too little. 12edsctedcn iusejd i want to fucking torture them every single dayqdschuewdsv cewds ceudfn23euiwfdhq3 fuck your self u think u is in place to judge me? ewhdcnued you fucking go kill you self you fucking roastie i literally is the perfect guy and yet still im incel and all girls hate me only for my fucking looks i will destpoy all you foidis fuycking oifrhedj dont be surpricsed if i ER. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!", "jerrycan dan said:but maybe you should only try to strike up a conversation with somebody when they actually want to talk to you and it'll go better.Just approach br0lmao don't they realise that ALL people don't want to talk to us", "All these youtube animation channels that tell animated stories have the same formula for the same audience.", "jerrycan dan said:cope, they lifemog the fuck out of me and probably you tooThe past few months of my life have been about as varied as one long ten minute period, it's a blur with only general trends. What you been up to in order to come up with a sentence like this?a bit of a cope yes but we shouldnt just blindly fall in this trap to think that we are the only ones with boring lifes.if they actually had interesting lifes than why would they put out videos like this?Its the same shit with social media, most of it is just frauding.Ive been up to nothing special, just like you and most of them too:Sometimes I draw, watch anime, play games, go to the gym shit like this", "Joelossus said:Neither gonna read nor watch this, because i know it will ruin my day.", "jerrycan dan said:woah, that was a bit of a yikes", "I couldn't last more than 1 minute of listening to that foids unbearable voice.", "She was revealed for being a dumb attention whore about a year ago, but yer fans went berserk and shut it all down.", "truefaithneworder said:everyday my desire to murder these disgusting foids grows even stronger.", "Vocacel said:She was revealed for being a dumb attention whore about a year ago, but yer fans went berserk and shut it all down.how do you know about these thots?", "And they think we are exaggerating when we say women want incels put in deathcamps. How dare this disgusting subhuman be in the same line as milady / her majesty. Its literally impossible to even exist without being hated and pogromed.", "My lust for the blood of those disgusting foids rises even more each time I read something like this.I know that one day it will be too hard to handle.", "I'm literally shaking right now", "Sino-ricecel said:i will fucking destroy all femoids. 213ioekwrmgvbe<srfbespxvjbh q<xv medxm buqwm bjcedxm, i deserve everything in this world and yet i get none. fucknuedsfuon edsuhwenfc djedsv cuidsjfbichoef dead is too little. 12edsctedcn iusejd i want to fucking torture them every single dayqdschuewdsv cewds ceudfn23euiwfdhq3 fuck your self u think u is in place to judge me? ewhdcnued you fucking go kill you self you fucking roastie i literally is the perfect guy and yet still im incel and all girls hate me only for my fucking looks i will destpoy all you foidis fuycking oifrhedj dont be surpricsed if i ER. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!calm down.. get a vanilla latte... there's nothing you can do. if it gives you some hope , all the young foids now will be dead and rotting in 50 years.I mean thERe are things you can do... but do you really want to die or go to prison over some sluts who just happened to win the genetic lottery", "Jesus Christ that entire thing was based on his looks alone. The projection is fucking unreal. I genuinely can't express my shock and anger at these people.", "I'm so angry I've gone numb. What is it with whores and talking about themselves all the fucking time. I guarantee that if it was a Man having a problem with a crazy girl and telling people on the internet he'd be called a misogynist and reported to the Femistazis to have him banned immediately.", "She just had to humilate the guy by making a video on him did she? in front of 6 million people. Existing as an ugly male is a crime for these women. And the video got 200k likes... pure ragefuel", "I hate women", "Joelossus said:Neither gonna read nor watch this, because i know it will ruin my day.", "Was he asian?", "Bone is the most powerful substance on this earth", "Do I cut vertically or horizontally to ensure death?", "Robtical said:Incels are autistic chadlite PUAs now?she wouldn't be all that repulsed by a chadlite", "Incline said:She needs to be skinned alive.", "In reality she is a self-hating asian ethnik. She only feels better about herself on hating on inkels for no reason at all.I guess it's an easy fix when you're at the bottom.And lol at hating disorder...I don't understand why you do care about people like her.IncelTears is a place full of trannies and child molesters. More of them would go down in the future.The whole difference between this place.So if you read me Jaiden, thank you very much for the free publicity. You should be thankful you only met an evil incel.In fact I doubt a UK gang would care about your skinny butt.It says everything.", "truefaithneworder said:everyday my desire to murder these disgusting foids grows even stronger.", "jerrycan dan said:Going back in time a bit when I landed in the UK - pre meeting that guy on Tinder - I was waiting in line to get through customs when this noticeably short guy bumped me from behind. I was standing still and the line wasn't moving, so it was kinda weird that it happened, but he was immediately like, oh man, sorry about that, so I told him it was alright. He bumped me in a way that made it so that he ended up a little in front of me, but after a second of what looked like hesitation more than anything else he let out a quiet oh shit, sorry, turned around, and shuffled back behind me. Was he trying to cut into the line? He had a recessed jaw, a fivehead, a snub nose and dark bags under his eyes even though his gaze was attentive and he seemed well-rested. I told him that it was alright a second time, although my response was delayed by my brief examination of his face.Now he was standing behind me, though, which felt weird. I felt the need to periodically turn my head around and glance at him to make sure he didn't try touching me or anything. After the first few times I did it he noticed and started looking down at the floor. He coughed once shortly after that and I really hoped he wouldn't start trying to make small talk with me. A what's your name?, what brings you to the UK? or a who are you visiting? would have made my time spend in line with this weirdo feel like an eternity. I think I heard him breathing wheezily at one point too (which would make sense, he certainly looked like he was in poor health).I wished to myself that the man waiting behind me would disappear into some atemporal realm from which he could never bother me again, but then I felt bad about that. That's not a nice way to feel about anyone, what would all my friends think if they heard me say stuff like that? Stacy would think I was such a bitch. I glanced back at him again and caught sight of his greasy forehead situated a couple of inches under mine. This guy really doesn't take care of himself, huh? He looks like one of the dudes you'd find on r/neckbeardstories or r/niceguys, yikes.He was using some kind of google phone I didn't recognise too. Get an iphone dude, an android maybe seeing as that'd be more up to your speed, but not this. What? Who are you dude, why are you so weird? He was browsing what looked like 4chan on his phone too, although he pretty quickly noticed I was watching him and jammed his phone into his pocket awkwardly without even pressing the button to turn off the screen.The help helpers I saw on the screen of his phone made me wonder - was this guy a misogynist racist incel? He certainly looked like one. Did he hate girls because they're selfish or whatever inkels say they are? I'm sure if this virgin tried smalltalk with me he would have some truly colourful openers. If his heart did harbour a burning hatred for 50% of humanity I could almost certainly smell it from here (metaphorically, of course; all I could smell was airport, although the incel standing behind me certainly looked like he smelled). He was probably everything I was worried my 4 year old son back in America would one day turn into - an angry, entitled permavirgin with no confidence who spent his time on imageboards instead of with friends or with a girlfriend like normal people choose to. I calmed myself down and tried not to pay attention to him anymore.Suddenly, the incel let out an excuse me that I could tell had been directed up at my ear. I turned around quickly, just in time before he tapped my shoulder with one of his spindly little fingers (his hands were smaller than mine), and let out a stern what? to make it clear I wasn't interested in being hit on. He sighed, hesitated for a second and then asked, Is this the non-UK passport line? When he spoke to me directly and didn't mumble I got to fully appreciate (in the same way that one appreciates the sound of nails on a chalkboard) the high-pitched, nasally voice that his small body managed to project out of his mouth. Regretting even asking him what he wanted, I quickly snapped back that it was indeed the non-UK passport line, and that he should look at the sign (even though the sign was blank on the side facing us and was only visible to people entering the line). He sounded intimidated by me, probably because I was a femoid.Two teenage girls standing behind us, both slightly taller than him, glanced at him when he spoke as if to say woah, that was a bit of a yikes. I'm no social genius, but maybe you should only try to strike up a conversation with somebody when they actually want to talk to you and it'll go better.I'm feeling really uncomfortable at this point. I thought it was weird he bumped me when the line wasn't moving, I thought it was weird he tried to manipulate the situation so I'd stand next to him or he could cut in, I thought it was weird that he used alt-right websites, also stop breathing so loudly please. I really hope he doesn't try to touch me again. I didn't feel unsafe or anything, because, I mean, customs at the airport is probably one of the safest and most security-guarded places you can be, and there are plenty of people around, but he's still a scraggy-looking napoleon complex weirdo in a hoodie with crazy in his eyes. It got quiet again because I wasnt really trying my hardest to keep up the conversation and it stayed that way, I think he got the message and decided to stay away from me.As I left the line I heard the two teenage girls jokingly tell him that it was nice meeting him and they called him a nerd. Serves him right.There's no way this is real. A guy must have wrote this. I mean it's clearly a joke, right? R-right?..", "Vrthraghna said:There's no way this is real. A guy must have wrote this. I mean it's clearly a joke, right?R-right?..Ive read it and its clearly a larp written by a male." ]
SeriousTraveling somewhere as an incel shut-in
[ "Ive been thinking about it, I could just travel anywhere I wanted to right now, but is there any point? I never leave my house unless its to goto the doctor or something, but I do have a passport and the funds to do so.I play the scenario out in my head, and I just imagine landing in another country, and just twiddling my thumbs, looking for a place to stay, and then just sitting inside shit-posting on the internet, or at best I might go outside walking around by myself aimlessly, maybe get an uber to some historical site, and then thats it. I'd probably be super paranoid of getting robbed and would have high anxiety levels.Am I wrong to think me travelling would be completely pointless? what do people even do when they travel?", "Maybe. Atleast traveling itself could be more interesting than sitting at home all time :/", "VirginAutistManlet said:Am I wrong to think me travelling would be completely pointless?no. traveling alone is a waste of time and money. even if you go to a place like Amsterdam or SEA. it's just an expensive short term cope.better invest in something with more longevity, like a motorbike, sexdoll / fleshlight, new computer, etc.", "Napoleon de Geso said:Maybe. Atleast traveling itself could be more interesting than sitting at home all time :/I like Greek & Roman history, I was thinking of going to Greece and Italy to see historical sites. Wouldn't this be super autistic and pathetic to do this all by myself?", "If you're travelling looking for a chance to ascend. You'll never be happy. No matter where you end up unless you actually DO ascend which is highly unlikely if you're a truecel or a curry tbh. If you're high inhibit. Don't EVEN THINK ABOUT IT TBH.", "VirginAutistManlet said:Am I wrong to think me travelling would be completely pointless? what do people even do when they travel?People take trips to eat,take pictures and stuff. Ya could but ya have to be careful.", "Algeriancel said:If you're travelling looking for a chance to ascend. You'll never be happy. No matter where you end up unless you actually DO ascend which is highly unlikely if you're a truecel or a curry tbh.If you're high inhibit. Don't EVEN THINK ABOUT IT TBH.Foids aren't even a thought in this for me. Im high inhib autistic", "Traveling is for normies. I would not waste any money on that. I have only been in two other countries, because my parents brought me there.", "VirginAutistManlet said:Am I wrong to think me travelling would be completely pointless? what do people even do when they travel?You're not wrong. Every time i travel it's just a total nightmare. Normies like to go see the historical sites and monuments etc, i don't really know why.", "I would love to travel to japan one day in order to acsend ngl.", "Foids don't have that problem.", "no point of traveling all alone as an incel unless u know u will get laid wherever u go", "Angry_runt said:Foids don't have that problem.Amerimutt humor... ", "VirginAutistManlet said:Ive been thinking about it, I could just travel anywhere I wanted to right now, but is there any point? I never leave my house unless its to goto the doctor or something, but I do have a passport and the funds to do so.I play the scenario out in my head, and I just imagine landing in another country, and just twiddling my thumbs, looking for a place to stay, and then just sitting inside shit-posting on the internet, or at best I might go outside walking around by myself aimlessly, maybe get an uber to some historical site, and then thats it. I'd probably be super paranoid of getting robbed and would have high anxiety levels.Am I wrong to think me travelling would be completely pointless? what do people even do when they travel?Try it at least once.", "I can't even leave my house comfortably because of agoraphobia (srs) it's worse in places with a lot of people. I don't know how truecels can leave their house so easily without any anxiety.", "IlIlllllIlIl said:I can't even leave my house comfortably because of agoraphobia (srs) it's worse in places with a lot of people. I don't know how truecels can leave their house so easily without any anxiety.Big problem. I can't imagine doing this tbh. I just wish I could snap my fingers and be there, then snap my fingers back, and be back home again, not have to interact with anyone or go through all the logistics which involves long periods of being around normies", "IlIlllllIlIl said:I can't even leave my house comfortably because of agoraphobia (srs) it's worse in places with a lot of people. I don't know how truecels can leave their house so easily without any anxiety.Yes this is the same for me as well. I feel as though i'm burning, and walls are closing in when in public.", "try travel local in your coutry see rivers lakes mountains or just get bycycle and ride", "Hikikomori said:Yes this is the same for me as well. I feel as though i'm burning, and walls are closing in when in public.Even when I just go to the clinical psychologist or something, when I'm out of the house for a certain amount of time, I start to feel like I am vulnerable and a easy target, and I feel an urge in my head telling me to get back home ASAP, when I get home I feel like I made it home and it was an adventure for me, and I feel positive feelings that I survived and got home without any trouble, and I feel a sense of safety and comfyness being home again, like its going to be okay if im here. The problem is this fear and paranoia doesn't go away when i expose myself to going out more, it just becomes more intense the more I do it. Exposure therapy doesn't work for me. Last time I went out some random shit normie asked me for a smoke (I dont smoke) and for some reason it made me go full angry paranoia anxiety mode and I had to go home straight away.Man, I can't imagine ever being homeless, I would have to an hero straight away in that situation. I can't be outside for long, makes me believe all homeless are normies to actually stand being outside 24/7 in public spaces.", "VirginAutistManlet said:Even when I just go to the clinical psychologist or something, when I'm out of the house for a certain amount of time, I start to feel like I am vulnerable and a easy target, and I feel an urge in my head telling me to get back home ASAP, when I get home I feel like I made it home and it was an adventure for me, and I feel positive feelings that I survived and got home without any trouble, and I feel a sense of safety and comfyness being home again, like its going to be okay if im here.Man, I can't imagine ever being homeless, I would have to an hero straight away in that situation. I can't be outside for long, makes me believe all homeless are normies to actually stand being outside 24/7 in public spaces.i try to go in new places local ALONE and sleep in tent and its boring and scary tbh i like my computer", "alone said:i try to go in new places local ALONE and sleep in tent and its boring and scary tbh i like my computer", "VirginAutistManlet said:Even when I just go to the clinical psychologist or something, when I'm out of the house for a certain amount of time, I start to feel like I am vulnerable and a easy target, and I feel an urge in my head telling me to get back home ASAP, when I get home I feel like I made it home and it was an adventure for me, and I feel positive feelings that I survived and got home without any trouble, and I feel a sense of safety and comfyness being home again, like its going to be okay if im here. The problem is this fear and paranoia doesn't go away when i expose myself to going out more, it just becomes more intense the more I do it. Exposure therapy doesn't work for me. Last time I went out some random shit normie asked me for a smoke (I dont smoke) and for some reason it made me go full angry paranoia anxiety mode and I had to go home straight away.Man, I can't imagine ever being homeless, I would have to an hero straight away in that situation. I can't be outside for long, makes me believe all homeless are normies to actually stand being outside 24/7 in public spaces.Ah i see. I'm schizophrenic and have a voice that makes rapid suggestions that i need to go back home or bad things will happen to me.", "VirginAutistManlet said:yeah if i have revolver just in case i will sleep beter i can find comfy places for LDAR outdoor", "Hikikomori said:Ah i see. I'm schizophrenic and have a voice that makes rapid suggestions that i need to go back home or bad things will happen to me.Im not schizophrenic. Just a lot of paranoia and anxiety of outside world after a long time of being shut-in hermit (15+ years now), and the autism doesn't help.", "VirginAutistManlet said:Im not schizophrenic. Just a lot of paranoia and anxiety of outside world after a long time of being shut-in hermit (15+ years now), and the autism doesn't help.why you want need to go out?", "alone said:why you want need to go out?say again", "Joelossus said:I would love to travel to japan one day in order to acsend ngl.", "WHY WANT TO TRAVEL ?", "Waste of time bud. Spend the money on drugs or something.", "alone said:WHY WANT TO TRAVEL ?I like the history of places I want to go, and i wanna see where my came from, kind of autistic i think, maybe cope, not in reality.The Abyss said:Waste of time bud. Spend the money on drugs or something.I dont smoke, dont drugs, dont drink", "VirginAutistManlet said:I like the history of places I want to go, and i wanna see where my came from, kind of autistic i think, maybe cope, not in reality.I dont smoke, dont drugs, dont drinkok you want to go but your are high inhib and alone its over but this autistic need will bring more pain and misery", "alone said:ok you want to go but your are high inhib and alone its over but this autistic need will bring more pain and miseryYes, although I never had these thoughts or anything until recently, never wanted to travel at all for first 30+ years of my life, its not that I actually do, but I have been having recent thoughts that all I have to do is press a few buttons on my computer and phone, and few actions like going to the air-port, and I can be on a flight to another country in no time. My brain is trying to comprehend this.", "You don't.", "VirginAutistManlet said:Yes, although I never had these thoughts or anything until recently, never wanted to travel at all for first 30+ years of my life, its not that I actually do, but I have been having recent thoughts that all I have to do is press a few buttons on my computer and phone, and few actions like going to the air-port, and I can be on a flight to another country in no time. My brain is trying to comprehend this.if you have money you can do this money brings comfort and lower the anxiety but in reality you will be alone in new places surounded by normies whit your problems in your head you will end up in one room whit your phone and you fell boring emotions too because you will be alone and when you see couples or friends together oh boyo you will regreat it and when you are in your comfy home you will be happy , after days or weeks your autistic brain will want to do that again.....i have this problem i think it is form of wanderlust the delusion the grass is greener in the new place and you problems will be autamtic gone when you travel . if you have money go to SEA or balkans and spend money for copes that are expensive in your home townhistorical monuments and ruins can be found near you stop want to go to shitholes to see IRL how bad you can feel alone", "Joelossus said:I would love to travel to japan one day in order to acsend ngl.Angry_runt said:Foids don't have that problem." ]
BlackpillAn intellectual reflection on inceldom Part 1.
[ "For the last months I have been reading and listening to several articles, jornalistic reports, podcasts, debates and interviews about the incel phenomenon in modern society, and even if the majority of them were highly against incels, I should point out that their argumentations were either wildly imprecise or relatively easy to deconstruct, but whenever there was an incel present they would not be any better at argumentations, which is somewhat understandable for even if one passes trought a very specific situation it does not mean they are some type of professional debater that will be able to defend the views that he has acquired trougth personal experience in a suficiently articulated and convincing argumentative speech. It is my hope that by sharing my reflections on this topic that I may strengthen the arguments of incels so that we can have a more productive participation on the societal debate about incels.To begin this discussion we should observe that essentialy what inceldom is, is a symptom of the existence of sexual selection in the midst of human societal practices, I would say that to many people this is not so much of a problem to accept, and that would be true, but there is at least one group of people that this becomes somewhat of a taboo when they are beeing completely honest in the discussion, and those are the people that defend egalitarianism, sure what they usualy mean when they are defending egalitarian measures is that they don't agree with how in Captalism a person is arbitrarily born in either a rich family or a poor family and that the one born in a rich family has way more opportunities than someone born in a poor family, and how this makes many poor people work their entire lifes, many times not beeing able to leave poverty and reach the middle class while other people hardly work at all but have the privilege of beeing born into a rich family. On this note it is interesting to notice that what happened in every socialist country when they abolished Captalism and forcifully equalized the economy, instead of money being what people strived for, it became political power, for the political institutions would by then have become more stratified and with the most opportunities centralized around a political hierarchy of the state, and then again inequality emerged for those people with political power and those without, for people that were arbitrarily born into a more influent family and people that were born into a unrecognized family. Of couse, no coutry ever achieved this, but suposing one coutry were able to go trougth socialism without breaking, and were then able to implement comunism were there would be no state and therefore political power would then become equally distributed amongst the people what then would become the thing people would then strive for ? Well I am sure there could be many things but if I were to guess I would conjecture it would be sex, the differences in sexual hierarchies would be intensified creating caste systems where people that were arbitrarily born more attractive would be able to enjoy the status of a higher caste where they would have many opportunities and people that were born very unattractive would live lives as untouchables, members of the lowest caste were no opportunities would ever emerge. In this truly dystopian scenario, but nonetheless plausible for caste systems were very common in India and many other asiatic coutries, obviously there would never be any forced redistribution of sex, for it would be societal sanctioned rape which obviously is a crime ( even though every other forced redistribution of capital, and of political influence were also crimes, although one could argue that they were of different proportions) and therefore we would never really have any egalitarian utopia but only changes of through which medium inequality would arise.All this talk about socialism and comunism has made me remember Slavoj Zizek’s article about incels ( and how he commits the hilarious mathematical error of saying things like We would thus oppose the logic of universal human rights and the logic of social hierarchy as the two sides of a Moebius strip when one of the most notorius characteristic of a moebius strip is that it only has one side, it gets even worse when after that he says and focus on their point of intersection (« Facepalm » ) what does he mean ??? the whole strip ??? And when you think it couldn't get any worse he begins to talk about turning and reversing shapes which only have one side, it's like some sort of mathematical torture, I know he is a specialist in Hegel and that makes him by consequence a specialist in meaninglessness and in utterly nonsensical things but this is too much. It is nothing more than the screaming example of double standards at play and nothing more, only then could he make a distinction of two things that are the same, that is, there can be no true equality if it doesn't encompass every significant thing in a person's life and that includes politico-economic life and sex . Although until here it may seem that I am advocating that there should be some type of enforcement of sexual partners, I would like to express how utterly appalling I think such thing is, and if you think that would be the only way to achieve equality of sexual relationships amongst everyone, then you are agreeing much more with the so called incel black pill than you are openly expressing. It is funny how the incel-normie situation resembles that of the lumpenproletariat - proletariat situation, much like how the proletarian class looks at the bourgeois class with envy, the proletarians at the same time despise and fear the lumpenproletarians for they may envy the proletarians, just like how the proletarians envy the bourgeois, and in doing so they may undermine the legitimacy of the proletarians in the class struggle and in this way prevent the Proletarian revolution.This takes me to the question of do incels belive they are entitled to sex ? To which my answer would be : not any more than anyone else. I mean think for a minute, when an incel goes to declare himself to someone and ultimately gets rejected, the very rejection could only happen either because this person does not want to be in any relantionship ever, or because the person he declared himself to thinks they are entitled to someone better. Incels are not any more guilty, than they are victims of entitlement. And then one would say that there are no more reasons to belive that there should be any asymmetry between dating strategies of males and females, and that would perhaps be the case if humans layed eggs instead of adopting a gestational strategy in which the mother becomes vulnerable, which by itself, was a big problem since humans where nomadic for the greater part of our existence, and therefore there was evolutionary pressure to make females have higher standards whenever they would select their mates, to justify the risk they would have to pass through. Ok, so if this is something that has been this way since times immemorial why is inceldom a contemporary problem ? I would not say it is a contemporary problem, it is a problem which has been greatly amplified in comtemporary times in which everyone is having way fewer children because of the cost, and because it is only in contemporary times that we have seen the dismantlement of what feminists would call the patriarchy, and more conservative people would call the traditional family model and there is also the absolute abandonment of responsibility. Those things contribute first to women beeing more picky as a return to those more primordial instincts in these times in which it has become so expensive to have children, and along with the understanding that stability together with responsibility are in the decline, making women in general choose a much more select group of men, and beeing with any one of them by much less time. Creating a whole mass of women that have not been in many, if any, long therm relationships, a group of men that have relative easy acess to as many relationships as they desire and another group of men that have each time less and less chance of being in a relationship. Returning to the question of entitlement, if there is such a thing as a belief of entitlement to sex that is supported by a whole subsection of the population then we have to look for the origin of this belief, and although many people would go quite trigger happy to say that the source of this entitlement is this forum and others like it, I wouldn't be so sure of this, for a forum only reverberates opinions and narrative images that are already existent in society, this problem, if it exists at all, is much more profound than that, it has to do with the socialization process, and to better illustrate what I mean by saying that I will make reference to a personal experience, not because I think this will prove anything about how everyone behaves, for it is certainly statistically insignificant, nevertheless I belive this report will bring to light the superstructure of values and beliefs present in contemporary society that does much more to foster this entitlement than it does to sever it, that is to say that although statistically insignificant I belive my report not to be meaningfully insignificant.When I was in High School I remember that in the first of a series of classes about sex education there were phrases profered such as Since everyone in here will sooner or later have a sexual relationship ... and sex is a fundamental part of every healthy lifestyle and many other like-minded sentences, since in my family I have an uncle that, differently from every other adult in my family, was not married and I remember the day that I, as a young boy, asked my mother why that was and she said that he was never able to date anyone and that he had given up on actively search for love, but she was sure that one day the right person would show up in his life. To me he was always an example of person living an alternative lifestyle, one that was as much valid as any other, for he was, and still is, one of the happiest people that I have ever know.As I grew up I found out that he as a teenager studied in high school at morning and had began working part-time at evening, and once he had finished High school he began working full time in a factory and was living with my grandmother until he had saved enough money to buy his own house, but by his late twenties my grandfather died and he took the responsibility, as the oldest son, of economically helping my grandmother. Acording to my grandmother he never had had a girlfriend and she used to joke that because of that he had become grumpy. As time had passed he knew nothing but rejections in every declaration of love he had ever made, until he had enough of it and stopped caring about love all together. My uncle was what we would call today an incel. Today he is 78 years old and lives a simple retired life, he likes to buy old watches and repair them if so they need and then he sells them at slightly higher prices than for what he purchased, he goes on walks in parks and plays chess.When I was having the first class in sex education and the teacher kept implying that sex was a inevitability, initially I thought about myself and how I have never had a girlfriend or even any type of close relationship with a girl and how I couldn't imagine my future self being any better than my then current self in this regard, and then I thought about my uncle and how his situation was the perfect counterexample of what that teacher had said, and then, having become somewhat troubled by what she was saying, I asked : Teacher, you have been making several generalisations about how everyone will someday need to know all this information about sex, but what about those people that do not wish to have sex or what about the people that will never in fact be able to be in a sexual relationship ? Isn't this type of information useless to them ? I mean there are all kinds of important information about self preservation that we don't talk about, like airplanes or ships safety precautions or workplace safety procedures or even how to be careful about possible legal loopholes that might ruin someone's life, and yet we do not talk about these topics, probably because we do not think that they are applicable to everyone in here, so why is it that this classes are obligatory if there are people for which this information is useless and these classes are nothing more than lost time? and why is it that you have not mentioned abstinence as a prevention method ? to which she answered : It is important to learn about sex because even though presently you may not want to have sex, one day when you meet the right person this information will be useful, you may be doubting now about what I am talking but it is not as if we choose for whom we will fall for. this answer made me really unconfortable back then and reflecting about it made me realise that society as a whole is in large part to blame about people believing that they are entitled to sex, people feed hope of a better romantic future, many times in direct oposition to what every shred of evidence seems to indicate, to those who have difficulties with romance with talks like “ you don’t need to be worried about being rejected you just have to be yourself and one day someone who values you for what you are will appear.” and “you are a nice person you just need to wait until someone realises that.” and “ I’m sure that if you did X you would be much more in evidence and people would notice all the other great aspects about you” and “the right person for you is somewere out there you just have to find them” etc.We drown people with all these hopes and promises and then we become infuriated if they ever complain about how they think life is unfair for not manifesting love to them as it does to the vast majority of other people, we say to they then “you are not entitled to sex” and “of course nobody will want you if you have that attitude” among other things, this is simply a image of how hypocrite and full of double standards society really is, in a first moment out of pity and some times as a form of doing away with a annoying situation, we offer this blind hope to those people in such a way as to make we not need to feel guilty with ourselves for our accomplishments and to not have to deal with any annoying and complicated thing as the romantic frustrations of another person, but in fact we don’t know if any of those promisses we made will ever be fulfilled and to begin with there is no way we can know about those things, and when all this hope we gave to those people backlashes we become offended or we laugh and ridicule that which we ourselves fostered.That being said, I don’t tink there is anyone who actually thinks that they are entitled to sex in as much as there is people that recognise that intimacy is a type of fundamental human need and that people deserve to have such needs fulfilled. This understanding that intimacy is a fundamental human need can be very well observed in those people that go to psychologists and decide to talk about their romantic shortcomings, and the answer of the psychologist is never to say: “Get the hell out of my consultory! You are not entitled to sex or intimacy or romantic appreciation, if you have not yet understood this, I advise you to stop being a cry baby and deal with it !”. The problem about fundamental human needs and if these needs implicate rights is a difficult and important debate, especially for those that honestly hold a more egalitarian ethos, but it is not one that I will tackle in these reflections. To be completely fair then I will assume that someone that, trough the contrapositive of a belief arrive at another, that is to say, if someone believes that “I don’t deserve to live in solitude” it implies the belief that “I deserve companionship “, and since I consider that the original belief is as valid as the belief that “I don’t deserve anything “ that implies “I don’t deserve companionship “, leaves me to conclude that it is as fair to think that one does not deserve companionship as it is to think that one deserves.Another story from when I was in High School is about one day in which we, the students, were handed a survey about our future aspirations and some of the questions were in multiple choice format, in particular one of those questions were “What is your most important objective in life ?”, amongst the answers were things like having a successful career, having a comfortable life with many travels trough the world, living a balanced life with no lack’s and no excess, and also there was a option that said “to marry, establish a family and have kids.”, initially I had read this sentence with a certain disregard, perhaps because at that time I already had a notion, based on what I had witnessed by then, of how my future would be like, and It had made the very notion of “establishing a family” as not something one could ever strive for, that is to say, it wasn’t anything that one could ever direct any work or effort towards, people would just live their lives and dedicate themselves to their ambitions, and only if one such people had the luck of meeting with someone that not only they liked but that also liked them in return, would then one be able to “establish a family”, in a sense this were a random event that could or could not occur within one's person lifetime, it is not something that has a continuous progression and therefore it is not something that one could rush towards as a objective, because there isn’t even any direction to rush towards. In my mind only those emotionally needy people would choose that option, those people that don’t seem to be able to be alone for any amount of time, and that always seem to be dating someone, and that make periodic references to their significant other and how they wished they were together in that specific moment. These people seem to be afraid of being alone or of even loneliness itself, it is the type of people that would say that their biggest fear is to die alone, and in saying that forgets that in life the majority of people are born alone and die alone, and they kind of contemn the lives of those people that live their entire life in solitude. With my disregard towards people that would choose the alternative “to marry, establish a family and have kids.”, I openly expressed my opinion about what I thought of that to my two best friends, it so happened that one of them had chosen that option in his survey, we then entered a discussion about how in my opinion that was a pathetic objective, and my friend rightly pointed out that what is important to each person is subjective which put me in a position where I had to concede that he had won the argument, and although in that moment I still didn’t think that objective to be worthy of being the most important to anyone, that for me was still the aspirations of cattle not of (mostly) rational human beings, but as time went on I began to see from new points of perspective this aspiration and began to not think so lowly of people who thought of constituting a family as their main objective in life and in fact at some point I began to accept that as valid as any other objective people might have in life, things like thinking about how according to several economists one of the main factors that move the economy is in fact the establishment of families, which generates many demands that in turn creates jobs to increase the supply and in this way equilibrates prices, other perspective that was quite enlightening was that of looking towards my own parents to which I am indebted for the rest of my life for having cared for me throughout my whole childhood and adolescence and how they sacrificed many things in favor of securing better opportunities in life to me and my siblings, than that which they themselves had, and they did that because their biggest objective in life is the well-being of their family, having benefited myself from such a life ambition how could I criticize others that may wish to follow the same objective ?Obviously I can’t. And so I have come to terms with people who have their main ambition in life “to marry, establish a family and have kids.”, but immediately we arrive at a problem, take this friend of mine as a example, my social life in High School was mainly interacting with people who had the same problems to fit in with the rest of the class as myself, and this friend of mine was not different in this sense, I have kept in contact with the majority of my friends of High School and with my two best friends, and even now many years after we graduated High School and University none of us has ever had any relationships, even my friend which his biggest dream is to marry and constitute a family wasn’t able to even have a girlfriend in all of this time, so, even though it is not my life, I still think we have to reflect about this cases in which a person begins to see the years and years go by and their humble, if I may say so, life's dream appearing to be every time farther and farther away of being realized, can someone really be angry at the thought of someone in this situation gets disenchanted with life, and sometimes by doing so, begins to resent people in general ? Since I am talking so much about High School let me make an analogy with one of my particular experiences in High School, do any of you know how it feels like when you like something let’s say an group sport like soccer or basketball for example, but every time people would make the teams you were always the last one to be selected ? Well I know very well how this feels because that last person to be selected was always me, I used to like to play volleyball with my family in a volleyball court that was close to home, I never was very athletic but I liked to play, but as I began to play volleyball, any sport really but I liked volleyball in particular, in PE class in Middle School and High School I was always the last one to be chosen for any team and during the game all my teammates always treated me as some type of dead weight that they had to carry, and it was by observing their behavior towards me that little by little I not only stopped liking volleyball, but it became the sport that I hated, and still hate, the most. The feeling of being treated as if you are incapable of any positive collaboration to the victory of the team, the sporadic occasions in which a member of your team noticed how sad you were at not being able to participate in the game and purposely let you touch the ball, only to make themselves feel better for what they were doing, as if that was some act of charity they were performing. It all got to my nerves at some point and all I could feel every time I played volleyball was how little my classmates thought of me.One can make a parallel between my description of the games of volleyball on my School years to what happened to my friend that had as his main ambition in life “to marry, establish a family and have kids.” in his adult life, except that in life no one is obligated to accept you just because you have offered yourself, so were you to be the last to be selected, in fact you just wouldn’t be selected at all, and that is what happened to him ( it also happened to me ). And sometimes when his Parents or his work colleagues noticed how lonely he were they would try to arrange to him a date with some women, and when he ultimately didn’t succeed at making a girlfriend, they would go to him and criticize him for letting such a chance let go like that, as if they were doing some type of charity to him. Could you really get mad at him for resenting those people who always seemed to reject him and also those people that felt bad for seeing the contrast between their lives and that of my friend and “mercifully” decided to offer him some time of emotional charity by arranging a date with some single woman they knew, only to not have to witness the loneliness of others.Another topic that I have been thinking about was about how we model our understanding of the existence of incels in society, and since I have been watching several lectures of Jordan Peterson, I have been interested in the Jungian idea that at the most primitive and/or fundamental level we human beings model the world trough the use of archetypes, it then stimulated me to think about which character would best represent the incel archetype ? Thinking about it quite meticulously it came to mind at least two stories that had major characters that we would today categorize as incels, those would be The Hunchback of Notre Dame’s Quasimodo and Cyrano de Bergerac’s Cyrano. Although Each of the stories have their own qualities and defects, through the semiotics of inceldom both characters are the representation of one societal occurrence, that is the utterly bankruptcy of Ethics at the predilection of Aesthetics, and as such I ultimately would have to choose Quasimodo as the better representative of the incel archetype, given the genius of Victor Hugo there is actually a passage in which Quasimodo leaves two vases in the window of Esmeralda’s room “One was a very beautiful and very brilliant but cracked crystal vase. It had allowed the water with which it had been filled to escape, and the flowers which it contained were withered. The other was an earthenware pot, coarse and common, but which had preserved all its water, and its flowers remained fresh and crimson. I know not whether it was done intentionally, but Esmeralda takes the withered flowers from the crystal vase and presses them passionately on her heart for the entirety of the day.”. This symbolism represents almost perfectly the incel conundrum, this behavior of Esmeralda is the behavior of the vast majority of females, and although we cannot say that every incel can be described as a person that is internally akin to vibrant flowers that remained fresh and crimson, even if we were to exclude those that are morally corrupt, which seem to be homogeneously distributed trough all social groups, there would still be those that have scarred hearts from their previous failures, although the vast majority of incels have been naive and hopeful at some time in their lives, this naivety progressively becomes a presupposition of malice and this hope becomes scorn, that is to say, can one honesty believe that a unkept flower in a uncracked earthenware pot would not shrivel, dry and die ? Given that it’s necessities were not being fulfilled in a very long time (perhaps even never) ?The usual reading of The Hunchback of Notre Dame, from my experience, looks with disdain towards the indirect rejection he suffers from Esmeralda, some people look at that and categorize it as a simple sexist instance of “it’s tragic because he didn’t get the girl”, where the situation is not anywhere that straight up, to quote Jordan Peterson on rejection: “It is a real judgement, at best it would be like: while I don’t mind your physical presence, your genes should definitely not survive another generation”, and if that was all perhaps that would be okay, but that is not all that happens, Esmeralda chooses Phoebus instead of choosing Quasimodo or even not choosing anyone at all, she rejects Quasimodo despite all of his good intentions and chooses Phoebus regardless of his egotistical intent. Why does she do that ? This has already been answered in these reflections, it is because se makes an aesthetic judgement and not an ethical one, Quasimodo is judged for his ugly and deformed appearance, of which he had virtually no choice, and Phoebus is judged for his handsomeness, of which he had been gifted without having done anything to deserve such blessing. Other people see that as a pathetically obvious result: “what did he expect ? Esmeralda is way out of his league, he should just accept that and hope that he finds someone that is just as ugly and deformed as himself, if that is even possible, and why should I even care for such a story ? The vast majority of the population, including myself, is neither deformed or that ugly and never have passed or will pass though such a life.”, whilst ignoring it’s own connotation as wildly discriminatory and sickly eugenic, much like Plato in his Republic: “It follows from our former admissions that the best men must mate with the best women in as many cases as possible, while the opposite should hold of the worst men and women; and that the offspring of the former should be reared, but not that of the latter, if our flock is going to be an eminent one. And all this must occur without anyone knowing except the rulers ... So then, we will have to establish by law certain festivals and sacrifices at which we will bring together brides and bridegrooms, and our poets must compose suitable hymns for the marriages that take place. ... I imagine that some sophisticated lotteries will have to be created, then, so that the inferior man of that sort will blame chance rather than the rulers at each mating time. ... And presumably, the young men who are good at war or at other things must —among other prizes and awards — be given a greater opportunity to have sex with the women, in order that a pretext may also be created at the same time for having as many children as possible fathered by such men.”, this is said by Plato, one of the most influential philosophers of the western world, so it is not that strange that people with such eugenic thoughts still exist and many times do not even realize the dangerous similarities between these two views, to simply accept this imposed hierarchy is not any better than to be like sheep that cannot begin to fathom the intentions of the shepherd.That leaves us to think why is it exactly that almost every decision one can make is subjectable to ethics, with the notorious exception of romantic/sexual judgments, it is at this intersection between a unscrupulous pursuit of one’s desire and a prudent restriction towards ethical conduct, that the intellectual dishonesty begins, because there are considerable interests at stake, therefore the very notion of ethics in the judgment of romantic partners is discarded and this rustic, amorphous, sometimes even mystical, and a priori unprincipled imagery of what is love is pushed forward as a means to justify partial/biased judgment and to crush dissent among those that are at the margin in this aspect of life. This imagery is propaganda, and just like any propaganda, it seeks to create a narrative that encourages complacency towards the present status quo and vilifies the desistance of pursuit of those success goals that have been dictated by the narrative. That is why there are people that having been exposed to the narrative that effort is not only necessary, but sufficient to achieve economical success, for example, these people that take contemporary society to be a complete meritocracy, can pass by a homeless person and not only they become incapable of being sympathetic towards the difficult situation that those in misery pass through every day, but take that as a just sentence, for if those people had been committed and hardworking they wouldn’t be in this situation to begin with, as they are it can only mean that they haven’t been those things, that they haven’t put enough effort to free themselves from poverty in which case they are only experiencing that which they deserve and one should only feel repugnance and aversion towards those people.If anyone thinks that this is only exaggeration and a way to justify an inferiority complex, or as people in my country say a mutt complex, if you think so I suggest to you to make a thought experiment, imagine you had to cheer up Quasimodo that was sad because of his loneliness, could you honestly tell him things like “You just have to keep trying to find your soulmate, she is definitely out there.”, would you really think that was the case for someone that deformed ? And if you would say that what makes you think that this situation is any different from that which was jokingly pointed out by George Carlin in one of his jokes about prisons where he said something like “Everybody more or less agree that we need more prisons, some people even scream 'BUILD MORE PRISONS ! ... but not in here.' “. It is like those people that keep saying how people should be seeking love because they believe that society is full of bitter and resentful people , but then feel insulted if anyone they don’t fancy ever declare romantic feelings towards them. This characterizes a insidious cycle where society at large advocates for love as a fundamental element of having a successful life, and then there is a number of people that fail at that, and then society reaffirms love and then surprisingly enough more people seem to fail and then not only society reinforces this idea of love, they condemn those that fail at it, this is what is happening in Japan where an ever increasing number of men are not able to find female romantic partners, which then reflects negatively in the number of births which then begins to affect the economy of the country, another bizarre phenomenon that is happening there is that the number and popularity of female aimed brothels, or as they call it there Host clubs, that although also exist in the male oriented forms, they don’t reach the ridiculous proportion that the female oriented Host Clubs have achieved where there are literally huge billboards promoting the most popular “hosts”(gigolos) outdoors in clear day light , and then some people begin to complain that this situation is unique to Japan and that the situation on the vast majority of the world is different from that, and that may be true presently, but what they fail to see is that the demographics of present day Japan accurately represents the projections for the immediate future of all developed countries and that it already began to show in developing countries as well, so we would better learn what can be learned from Japan's situation because we will pass trough that soon enough.Returning to how ethics has lost to aesthetics in the dating landscape, we may depart from a rational ethical analysis from what we experience in our failed attempts at dating, and the most recurring basis for rejection is not behavior or education or dedication, these things only achieve critical importance once two people have already begun dating, the thing that really works like a filter is attractiveness, which fundamentally means looks, knowing this we may begin this ethical analysis by asking what it means to exert judgment on other people mainly trough aesthetics, and that is, what makes anyone more aesthetically pleasing than another person ? Is it the actions that one chooses to take ? Is it the way one thinks about things ? Is it the behavior one upholds ? Is it the personality one has developed throughout his life ? Or is it one's physical appearance which was primarily defined by his genetics at the moment of birth, and secondly by the environment in which he grew up, both of which are random events in which one doesn’t have any influence over ?Supposing one has honestly answered those previous questions can anyone say that the physical appearance is not a fundamental factor towards attractiveness ? If one still doesn’t agree then imagine yourself honestly telling that to Quasimodo, that is, if you were even capable of that. Still in this topic of attractiveness, a strange phenomenon that has been happening since about the 1990's when the percieved beauty standards for males changed radically. Generaly it is women that complain about the unattainability of such ideals, what is obviously a statistically and ethical valid complaint and one that I will take as a given, yet although unattainable they can hardly be said to be unfeminine, if for anything, the unattainability of such female standards arises from the exaggeration of the feminine to unrealistic levels, where as the contemporary beauty standard for males is almost entirely unmasculine in it's nature. The common feature shared by most male models of female oriented magazines is that, with the exception of their musculature and their jawbone that tend to be accentuated, they resemble some type of androgynous angel-like figure, having therefore more feminine traits in opposition to those biologically induced by characteristic masculine hormones like testosterone. In conclusion while women complaints of beauty standards are based in the fact that the cutoff region of what is considered attractive in the multivariate distribution of feminine aspects is so narrow that they become unrealistic, although the variables of the distribution are in principle still comparable throughout, if not all, the vast majority of women; Where as with men the problem lies in the fact that there is a break between men who have in their appearance those feminine dimensions capable of mustering an androgynous look, which has become attractive as of late, and those who doesn't have this dimension to them, and in this discrete, discontinuous classification we have men being forsaken not because they don't lie within some range on the scales of attractiveness, but because they are not even on many of those scales to begin with, that is, some times it is not only because someone is on the lower strata that they are rejected in favor of someone else, sometimes it is just because they aren't even comparable in the first place, and this is a big problem because, may people like it or not, there are way more people that look like Quasimodo than there are people that look like angels anyway.One fascinating exemple of how ethics becomes mixed with aesthetics occurs when a feminist calls all men pigs (or at least some portion of men), is the identification of a men with the figure of a pig a ethical judgement or an aesthetical one ? It almost seems as if the problem was not the actions perpetuated by those men but their aesthetics, that those actions would be somewhat acceptable, were practiced by some Christian Grey of Fifty Shades of Grey instead of some random creep. Still talking about those feminists, there is much talk about how women should just wear whatever they want and that they shouldn't be demurred by any possible sexual aggressor, after all the guilt of any aggression is always of the aggressor (which is a correct assessment, of course), nevertheless it should be pointed out that this type of discourse has many times promoted debauchery and demoted prudency, and this is a problem because, although the guilt of the aggression is of the aggressor, we have to remember ourselves that sexual impulses are not triggered by rationality and logic (hah, we wish that were the case, imagine if things were so simple and reasonable as solving numerous logic problems from a set of propositional calculi « See what i did there ? » ), but by instinct, so that it only takes a person with bad judgement for a tragedy to happen, is it really okay to encourage women to make themselves preferential prey to those molesters ? One thing is to envision an idealized society, another one entirely is to advocate unprudent behaviour in the real world. In the extreme end of feminism we find organizations such as Femen wich proclaims to fight against the malice of the patriarchy, only to do so with malice of their own and to fight malice with malice can only increase the total amount of malice in the world.So we have people judging other people mainly trough randomly assigned traits, considering, of course, that even those who can improve themselves into becoming more attractive have first to have the potential to become more attractive, and this potential is equally randomly assigned. We have then to ask ourselves if this is ethical, which it is not, for it is an arbitrary judgment, and knowing that we must ask ourselves what can be done to remedy this unjust behavior, obviously we could not force or coerce people to change this, for it would be equally not ethical, the only thing we can really do is to accept the way things are and to take our own judgment upon this unethical situation. One thing that I have seen recently that has made me a little irritated was this, rather vulgar, video by BuzzFeed (), the guy in the video is certainly not a very ethical person by what is portrayed of him thinking, but for a second forget what he thinks and what he does in his privacy, no one else in the real world would know that to begin with, what I think is the most irritating thing is the part where he buys a watch to gift to the coworker that he belives he is developing feelings for, even if it is in his own twisted way, and when he finally goes to give the gift to her, he freezes and is not able to say anything and she gets uncomfortable with that and walks away, at the next moment we see him in the HR being scolded for inappropriate behaviour, since when does trying to give a watch to someone constitutes inappropriate behaviour ? It is as Roger Scruton has once said (), as society is tending towards becoming less and less civilized, romantic relationships begin to stop requiring a previous period of courtship and become each time more dreadfully direct, or how Roger Scruton said “Nowadays, of course, sexual harassment just means sexual advances made by the unattractive, who are the majority, so you know, there is a huge injustice in this.”.Going back to the topic of how incels are seen by society, we may spend days and days arguing about how every time there is, for a lack of a better word, a public exhibition of the subject there is always a permeating hypocrisy of some sort, either they think we are just “bad losers” in a way, that just because we aren’t able to date anyone we think it is alright to be whining about how we couldn’t achieve that which we wished, and how this is only because the world is unjust and so on, when in fact the majority of them revert right back to this state whenever their established relationships crumble, and in this moment they don’t think that in fact they are just whining and that they should just “buckle up, kiddo”, or when people are so reductionist to the point that they say we incels are just frustrated because we can’t get laid and begin talking about how this is some justification for why prostitution should be legalized, when in fact just because something is illegal it doesn’t mean it is impossible to find, prostitution, much like illegal drugs, is not that difficult to find if you are actually looking for it, these people forget about the deepest existential question that is in fact what really desolate the incels, these people just say this because they have had the privilege of having had their emotional needs fulfilled and reassured by this they have taken the liberty of dissociating one thing with the other, and having had their emotional needs fulfilled they begin to only think about sex and their sexual desires instead of the more basic, humane, problem. In the last case people just assume that if someone is rejected by everyone they have ever approached, then that means they are some type of freaks that should just lay down and rot, after all the word of the people have been ushered, and the word of the people is law. But jokes aside, I wish to talk about one opinionated person in particular, Natalie Wynn the transexual woman of the YouTube channel ContraPoints, in her video about incels () to which many people took to be a pondered, even perhaps conciliatory, stand on the question of inceldom, yet, although better than the majority of the expositions of the topic she still makes fundamental mistakes about incels, in particular in the part about how the black pill is just catastrophizing, or how she exposed it as being defined by psychotherapists as “A cognitive distortion where anxiety or depression leads you to infer apocalyptic conclusions from mundane setbacks and anxieties.”, every incel reading this might instantly see where the problem in that is, it only gets worse when she gives the first example of such a situation, she says to consider a person that is late for work and that from that they get to the conclusion that they and their hole family are going to die because of that, later on she tries to show how the black pill is just another scenario of catastrophizing, except that it isn’t as simple, consider first her first example, sure one person who once got late may not get fired because of that, but what about someone that is always late ? In fact forget the whole scenario where this person is employed in the first place, this scenario is already too reassuring to begin with, consider instead someone that is unemployed and has always been and the reason that that is so is amongst other things that they seem to always get late to their work interviews, let’s say that happens because they live in a city that has a serious problem of traffic congestion, since this person has not been able to get a job until now it would not be strange if they accepted that their chances of being able to get a job are low, and if they aren’t able to get a job soon they and their family are soon enough starve to death, of course this put in this way has a simple solution, just wake up early!, but let’s talk about something more real, in Brazil there has been a economic crisis that has subsisted over the last five or so years, and that has generated a somewhat new class of labor force categorization, roughly speaking there are the employed, the unemployed and the dismayed (in portuguese “desalentados”) that have given up on looking for a job and that according to the IBGE (Brazilian Institute of Geography and Statistics) has estimated to be around 4.8 millions of Brazilians in the last year (2018) estimates. Which only demonstrates how giving up at situations of an overwhelming number of rejections is not some type of silly catastrophizing, it is something more close to a natural reaction towards this ubiquitous presence of rejection, but let’s go back to Natalie's description of the black pill, she begins with saying that experiences of rejection and isolation, where she doesn’t quantify this, making it seem as if it is just some experiences of rejection and isolation and not the only thing one has experienced, then she says one might infer that one’s unattractive to women, what may seem a plausible inference from someone that has had some experiences of rejection but is quite certain for someone who only has experienced this, then she goes on to say that from this one may conclude that they will be attractive to any woman, which again is a very big jump for someone who has had some experiences of rejection, but it is not that big of a inference jump for someone who was only experienced rejection, she then goes on to say things that are not inferences but deductions from the last inference in points 4-You will be forever alone; 5-You will always be Unhappy; and 6-Women did this to you. And then she goes on to talk about some points that can try to explain why would things be in such a way as to allow someone to come at those previous conclusions, that is points 7-feminism empowered women to do this to you; 8-The social trends that made this possible are only getting worse; And then there is that last conclusion that I will take the liberty of rewriting as 9-Humanity itself, as understood to be the association of every human being as equally “human” and therefore equally deserving of existence, nutrition, education, housing, friendships and love; is therefore Doomed. Having reach this conclusion is it really that strange if someone were to begin to think that the only thing that one can do in this overwhelming scenario where one is faced with nothing more than the perception and understanding of impotence towards the status quo of things ? That figuratively, in this scenario of powerlessness, the only thing one can do is to lie down and rot ? She then goes on to make rampant generalizations about how incels could stop being incels, or how she puts it “Mom the shit out of them.”, if they just socialized more, made some friends, ..., and many more standard discriminatory assumptions that people in general make and that they think they have the solution to. But to be frank I don’t dislike completely her video, compared to what other people have said she is almost comprehensive in this video, and if it were not for her latest video on Beauty ( I would probably not being criticizing her now, but in this video she simply tries to justify why when she makes a plastic surgery it is alright, but when it is an incel that does one it is not because of the pressures of society, it is purely because they want to have sex with women and that they think that by doing that they will have their lives become meaningful, not because perhaps they would wish some amount of love in their dispassionate lives, but then again there is that one frase Natalie said in her penultimate video, what was it again ? .... oh, right it was that it’s “just a privileged person with a platform punching down at a politically besieged group he understands nothing about.” (here it has to be noted that her video on Incels is her most seen video.), after all if you can point out to people that never had a relationship how meaningless it all is and how it wouldn’t bring any meaning into your life anyway, is it alright for her then if we just faced every couple head on and said that their affection towards one another is really just a delusion that their relationship will foster them with any meaning in their shallow meaningless lives, just like a proper cynic would do ? I suspect not !Another problem with Natalie exposition is that a part of the reason that she went through plastic surgery was because she wanted to be more beautiful and attractive, and how she wanted to look more like a woman, but that doesn’t seem to be ethically acceptable, if we were to consider a person who doesn’t like their ethnicity and would wish to make themselves look more like a ethnicity they liked more, would it be ethical to allow this person to pass trough treatments for skin whitening and facial reconstruction just to look more like a given ethnicity, would it not only be the expression of a societal racism that was then internalized by this person, and shouldn’t they be stopped and made understand that ethnicity is simply not something that should characterize anyone as this or that, and that they can in fact be whatever they want without having to reshape themselves to serve the perception of other people ? In this case shouldn’t Natalie just keep herself the way she was because of the same reasons ? What is it that really matters how one sees one’s self or how others see them or how one changes the way they see themselves based on how other people see them? These are difficult questions, but they are questions that demand answers as soon as possible because they are of fundamental importance to guarantee that everything is coherent. You see there was this very famous British mathematician called G.H. Hardy that, tell the stories, hated to look at his own face in the mirror and every time he would travel, he would ask for the hotel to cover all mirrors in his quarters with towels so that he wouldn’t have to keep staring at his own face. Some people today would certainly say that the cause for that is a psychological disorder and that he should go to a psychologist and solve thatHaving faced several rejections, the majority of which didn’t provide any constructive criticism, although there were several instances of conveyed disgust, one still has to hear criticism of this sort: “Your belief that you will never find anyone who would love you is absurd, you cannot give up, you just have to keep trying even if it takes a hundred or a thousand tries, once you find someone who accepts you that will be all that will matter and all those rejections will be meaningless.”. Although it is sad to burst the bubble of such a Happy go lucky though, we have to face the facts nevertheless, and the fact is that the more rejections one has the lowest are his chances of actually being accepted by someone, it is just basic probability theory, considering that for any given person the number of attempts to get a girlfriend is too low to estimate the exact probability of him being accepted at any given occasion, we have to use the best expectation of such a result that we can make with the limited number of trials such a person has experienced, and the way to do that is with Bayesian probabilities, that is by the use of Bayes’ Law to update the initial expectations. To better illustrate this I will present an example, let us say that a young and naive boy would like to find the probability of him being accepted or rejected by a girl when he confesses, because he is very naive his first expectation is that there is as much chance of him being accepted as there is of him being rejected as he thinks to himself: “I don’t think there is any particular reason for me being rejected as also there isn’t any for me being accepted.”, and then he experiences his first rejection and says to himself: “Well, although that was sad, according to my expectation that was as probable as any other outcome”. As time goes on he finds that all five of his confessions ended in rejections and thinks to himself that the chances of that would be about 3.1% with the assumptions he had made, it can be that he was just unlucky, but he decides to make use of Bayes’ Law to update his expectation values of acceptance and rejection, since those trials can only result in discrete combinations of yes or no answers and because the number of possible candidates is so large that we can make the small approximation that there is reposition, which implies the need of the use of a binomial distribution to represent the chances of being accepted in a given number of trials, which when put into Bayes' Law, with the use of the Product Law of probabilities, can then be easily shown to be proportional to the initial guess of distribution of the acceptance (or conversely of the rejection) times a beta distribution with a normalization factor, I took the liberty of plotting the graphs for a given initial distribution of the acceptance probability and its evolution as one keeps getting rejected, in blue we have the probability density of the acceptance probability and in green we have the cumulative of such a probability density: As one can see there is a clear tendency of the distribution to the right, that means that with every rejection the expected probability of a acceptance gets smaller and smaller, parting from a very conservative initial expectation distribution for the probability of an acceptance with a mean on 50% chance, we get that 15 consecutive rejections, and no acceptance since the beginning, later we have a 70% chance that the probability of being accepted is between 0% and 10%; and 20% of chance that the probability of being accepted is between 0% and 2%.Should one get 20 consecutive rejections with no acceptance since the beginning, we get that there is a 70% chance that the probability of being accepted is between 0% and 7%; with a 20% chance that the probability of being accepted is between 0% and 1%. It can be shown that this distribution uniformly converges to a class of distributions so called (Bounded) Pareto Distributions, which are sometimes mistakenly said to have the 80% to 20% rule, but this is only the case for exactly one Pareto Distribution and need not be the one we are getting.I had a friend that once told me he had 34 consecutive rejections since he had begun trying to get a girlfriend, so only for curiosity I made the calculations and there is a 90% chance that the probability of being accepted is between 0% and 7%; and a 20% chance that the probability of being accepted is between 0% and 0.7% that is to say that there is a 1/5 chance that on average* only 1 girl out of the next 142 girls he decides to declare to will accept., (*) considering as if the 0.7% were a larger concentration of probabilities, which is not the case, for it is in the 0% that there are bigger concentrations of probabilities. That may not seem soooo bad but we have to consider that we begun with a very naive and unrealistic guess at what the distribution of the acceptance probability would be like, had we begun with a homogeneous distribution or a distribution that was more centered at rejection we would have gotten way worse results. One funny paper that should not be taken as serious because the writer is too picky and his calculations are imprecise and uses outdated data is the paper entitled Why I will never have a girlfriend by Tristan Miller wich can be found at his web site at So if we can take anything from the last exposition is that it doesn't matter if my probabilities are precisely correct what really matters is that if one person were to be completely rational about it's prospects of finding a girlfriend the weight of all the rejections he had ever witnessed are in fact evidences that his chances are not any good, and that with every rejection his percieved chances of success can only get worse.", "What will you name this book?", "part 1 ", "An intellectual reflection on inceldom Part 2.Having come to this conclusion that past experiences suggest that any next attempt will probably not be successful and that by each rejection the percieved possibility of success will also diminish one begins to pounder when enough is enough, that is, at which point should one just give up. This matter brings to my mind a interesting topic, you see I live in Brazil, and from 1964 to 1985 Brazil was a Military dictatorship and when we study about this period in school the main thing we talk about is about the way in wich the regime implemented torture as a method of interrogation on vast scales and one of the most popular methods of torture was the Pau de Arara ( macaw's perch ) in wich a person was tied upside down by their knees and wrists, the main purpose of this technique is to put a person in a state of continuous discomfort and agony although more bland at any given moment than more traditional torture techniques, of couse there were occasions in which the Pau de Arara was used in combination with other torture techniques that were more intense in comparison, but even in cases were it was the sole method of torture there are accounts of completely innocent people alleging being part of terrorist organizations that had the intent of replacing the military dictatorship with another form of dictatorship, the dictatorship of the proletariat, those were the armed socialist/communist guerrilla groups in the euphemistically called armed struggle (Luta armada), and in fact there was not only that but there are also reports of completely innocent, not involved, people alleging that not only themselves were a part of such terrorist groups, but also that other family members, equally as innocent and not involved, were also a part of such groups, that is to say, not only there were people so affected by the Pau de Arara torture technique that they were accepting authorship of crimes that they didn't commit but they were also selling family members and close ones with the only purpose of getting rid of the torture through a quick execution. It is perplexing what people are capable of in situations were they are continually subjected to suffering for long periods of time. One may think that this type of torture is considerably mild in relation to the other torture techniques, one might even think that if it were they in that situation they would never do such a thing as those people did, and that perhaps would be true if they were subjected to only a couple of hours or so, but what about days ? or weeks ? or even months ? would they be so sure that they wouldn't be hoping for one thing, and one thing only, for it all to end ?Now I wish to talk about something that has made me feel really discomforted, this is how some people have taken the notions of female rights and have tried to imply that those are really universal, so much so that people have begun to cal them the Human Rights of sexual and reproductive health and rights (what is this ? Is it edible ?), and how this has nothing to do with strictly women's rights. They usually include things like how it is the right of all to make decisions concerning reproduction free of discrimination , coercion and violence, which seems to be really redundant because people already have the right not to be coerced which is already a generally well accepted right, so much that it is part of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, after this it is basically women's rights, which by themselves is nothing bad, women do need certain rights associated with their reproductive capabilities and no one on their right minds would deny that, what is problematic is this false narrative that reproductive rights can be something that can be universalized to women and men. Some declarations become painfully hypocritical such as declaration number 7 of the WAS Declaration of Sexual Rights: “The right to the highest attainable standard of health, including sexual health; with the possibility of pleasurable, satisfying, and safe sexual experiences.” and another problematic one is number 12 that says “The right to decide whether to have children, the number and spacing of children, and to have the information and the means to do so.”. So here we enter a bizarre territory because in the modern world if a man wishes to have a child he will have to begin a relationship with a woman and at some point they may decide together to have children and it is all well and good, now if a woman wants to simply have a child she may go to one of those sperm banks, the thought of which would make Heinrich Himmler open a smile from ear to ear, there they can select the sperm from a selection of donors all categorized by their height, weight, hair color, hair type, eye color, skin color, ascendency, nose type, IQ, ..., and so on. So where a man needs to basically constitute a family if they wish to have children, a woman may just go to a sperm bank and carefully select, with all the spirit of a Nazi, how half of their children genetics will be like, and no one seem to problematize this. Can there really be said that men have the same reproductive rights as women ? If a man wished to have something analog to what the sperm banks are to women, would they have the right to assume full juridical responsibility over the child that was created ? Should he ? Should anyone ?Another interesting situation worth talking about, mainly because of the imagery involved, takes place in the animal world, some time ago I was watching one of those wild life documentaries, the sort that are broadcast in the animal planet or in the BBC, and they were narrating the courtship behaviours of some small primate, the name of which I unfortunately can't seem to remember,it just so happens that courtship in that species occurs in a very specific time of the year and involves the unpaired male monkeys climbing a tree and from the height of the tree they display themselves to any interested female that might appear, once a female selects her mate, through visual selection, she climbs the tree and goes to the same branch to encounter her selected male before any other female decides to do the same, after they both are paired they leave the tree. The interesting thing is that even though there were roughly the same number of males and females, there were still some number of males standing on branches at dusk and according to the narrator there are always males that are left unpaired because the remaining females, faced with the leftover choices, find it better to wait to the next year or so when new males reach maturity to then choose a mate, and the leftover males find themselves also having to wait for another year to be selected. As the narrator was exposing those habits of this monkey species the camera had focused on one of the leftover monkeys, and althought I may be biased to think this way and probably be anthropomorphizing the monkey, I must say that he stood there on the branch facing forward for a time and then after some time he begun to look to the sides and I could swear that I saw on his face a look of despair from the realization that he would not be choosen on that day, that he had been judged unfit for reproduction, and that all his hopes and/or instincts where just crumbling to pieces right in front of him and he then got very agitated at having to face those prospects. Having had this imagery exposed to me i begun to think, well since that monkey had already been judged unfit once it probably will not be any more easy in the next year were he will have to compete with younger monkeys, in fact it will probably be more difficult, and probabilistic there is no reason to think that he will ever be able to be choosen especially given that monkeys in the wild are expected to have at most 15-20 years. At risk of anthropomorphizing the monkey again, would it really be that weird if one of those rejected monkeys simply decided to not wanting to have to bear the anxiety and humiliation involved in those mating rituals and instead to go do any other thing that proves to be more useful to him ? If this seems to be too anthropomorphic then we can simply go directly to the main question, what then about humans ? Should a human see himself in the same situation of that monkey, which we as incels can better appreciate for we are in a sense that monkey, would he be wrong to simply give up on that ? To weave a parallel with the end of the last paragraph, should we be obliged to keep ourselves within this torturous cycle of rejections ? Or will we be seen as Pathetic Weasels ? And if that is so where lies the guilt in the monkey, and where lies the guilt in us ?One of the most meaningfull philosopher to any given incel would probably be Arthur Schopenhauer, he would be the closest amongst the great philosophers to an philosopher who would understand inceldom, with one very important remark: he was a hypocrite, even though he could somewhat contemplate that wich we are facing, and that he had come to the conclusion that asceticism was that wich all had to adopt if so they desired to free themselves from suffering, he never had the will to actually hold any practice of asceticism. But since even a broken clock is right at least two times a day, we have to consider his arguments and reflections and judge them by their values not by his actions. This weird inversion of thought is particularly interesting, for those that seem to be afflicted by the shortcomings that are through us manifested in the world, or as he says: This great intensity of willing is in and by itself and directly a constant source of suffering, firstly because all willing as such springs from want, and hence from suffering. Secondly because, through the causal connexion of things, most desires must remain unfulfilled, and the will is much more often crossed than satisfied. Consequently, much intense willing always entails much intense suffering. For all suffering is simply nothing but unfulfilled and thwarted willing, and even the pain of the body, when this is injured or destroyed, is as such possible only by the fact that the body is nothing but the will itself become object. Nor for [this] reason much intense suffering is inseparable from much intense willing., the rise of asceticism as in: By the expression asceticism, which I have already used so often, I understand in the narrower sense this deliberate breaking of the will by refusing the agreeable and looking for the disagreeable, the voluntarily chosen way of life of penance and self-chastisement for the constant mortification of the will. and the understanding of that as a way to free ourselves from this very interaction of us with the world that brings us so much suffering as in his summary: Therefore, destined originally to serve the will for the achievement of its aims, knowledge [what I have called consciousness] remains almost throughout entirely subordinate to its service; this is the case with all animals and almost all men. However, we shall see in the third book how, in the case of individual persons, knowledge can withdraw from this subjection, throw off its yoke, and , free from all the aims of the will, exist purely for itself, simply as a clear mirror of the world; and this is the source of art. Finally, in the fourth book we shall see how, if this kind of knowledge reacts on the will, it can bring about the will's self-elimination, in other words, resignation. This is the ultimate goal, and indeed the innermost nature of all virtue and holiness, and is salvation from the world. .Such a stance is really commendable, for consider all those ignorant people, like those in this episode of Real Time with Bill Maher: () especially at the 2:40 minute mark, that think that the problem of incels is that we are not able to have sex through the development of a relationship with a girl and that all our problems would be solved if we just hired a prostitute or/and just contended ourselves that this is the only way in which we would ever be close to that which is, I belive, what the majority of us desires, that is, a fully fledged romantic relationship. Imagine what it would be like to simply dismiss such a notion with only such an assertion as that of Marcus Aurelius: as for sexual intercourse, it is only the friction of a piece of gut and, following a sort of convulsion, the expulsion of some mucus. or the impetus of Saint Thomas Aquinas when he allegedly drove away, by wielding a fire iron, a prostitute that his brothers had hired to seduce him and take his chastity away, making him no longer elegible to be a catholic priest. A unrelated topic that I have just remembered is that in the last years there has been an increase in the acceptance of the idea that human beings are not monogamous by nature and the practices of polyamory, open relationships and casual relationships are on the rise (as can be seen in especially at 9:14 and at ) and the very notion of social enforcement of monogamy (as in the Custodian of the Patriarchy article and it's subsequent discussions), we as incels can appreciate that to even be able to reach a romantic relationship with someone can be one of the hardest things in life and that if and when any of us should be gratified with such privilege that it should be treated with the utmost care and reverence, for it is to us a very rare situation and one we may hardly imagine occurring a second time, and then there are those privileged ones to wich relationships come and go all the time and as a means of justifying their own greed, lust and degenerate behaviours; It is the apex of a self-centered, self-serving attitude that only cares for one's own gratification and avoidance of any responsibility.In Mathematics and Economics there is a game theory problem know as the stable marriage problem in which there is an equal number of men and women, each with their own preference list of members of the opposite sex, all of which are monogamous and share the notion that a relationship with any given person is better than no relationship at all, we then pose the question if there are any configurations of marriages in which every marriage is stable, stable in the sense that even if in any given marriage, one, or even both of the members of the couple finds that they would be better off married with another given person, they are unable to change their partner because the other person is already with someone they would rather be to begin with. This problem was solved by Lloyd Shapley and David Gale in 1962, not only solving the existence problem but also coming up with an algorithm, the Gale–Shapley algorithm, to arrive at one such stable configuration which granted Shapley with the 2012 Nobel Prize in Economics (Gale had already died in 2008). It is important to know that the fundamental mechanism that ensures stability is monogamy, should that be removed then no stable arrangement exists at any given time, so that if we were to consider the time evolution of such system it would be chaotic, being better described by attractors and repellors in dynamical systems, and this is chaos, and it does not need to be a randomly almost homogeneous distribution, if anything we can be sure that there will be people with a very dense amount of partners and some with a vacuous amount. Humans tend not to react well with chaos especially if they are always on the losing end.We then get to the subject of terrorism and mass shootings, before anything I would like to express my total disapproval of violence, nothing can ever justify the use of violence against another person, no discrimination, no offense, not even another act of violence may ever make that wich is absolutely wrong anything other than absolutely wrong, and all shooters and killers are (to use a portuguese expression) the scoria of society (a escória da sociedade), they are the lowest anyone can ever go and the worst of all of us humans. Taking from the great brazilian philosopher Márcia Tiburi , sarcasm intended, who developed the exquisite idea of the existence of a logic of theft (in portuguese: , translated transcript: Márcia Tiburi: but people, ... heh ... It is also complicated to say I'm in favor or I'm against, if I say I am in favor, for example, let's say I am in favor of theft. interviewer: Are you in favor of theft ? Márcia Tiburi: [why] not ? I think like so: there is a logic of theft ... a logic in theft, there is something I need, I was contaminated by capitalism or so ... or I ... [you] should begin to think from the point of view of the inversion ... interviewer scornfully points out: I'm already begun ... so ... Márcia Tiburi: So ... then ... I will not talk in terms of what I am in favor, because ... There are many things that are so absurd that if you were to look at the internal logic of the process you would say: ... You know, this would be fair inside such an unfair context. [...] ) , we may ourselves try to trace the logic of incel terrorists (ugh, what an abject subject), to do so we go back to the 18 century when Goethe Published The Sorrows of Young Werther that told the history of a desolate young man that had to face large amounts of discontentment towards love, because of a particular unfulfilled love experience that little by little becomes the superlative origin of his suffering and at the end of the book he kills himself, the history of young Werther contained in Goethe's book was the trigger to a wave of mass suicide amongst young men in Europe that identified with the history of young Goethe, from there we go through the philosophical movement of existencialism, arriving finally at Jean-Paul Sartre when in his play No Exit where he ushered the iconic phrase Hell is other people, from this point onwards that which had majorly been internalised in the self begun to be externalised to the other, the idea that if one were to be by himself he would be emotionally fine, it is only because of the existence of the other that at times entice and at others disdainfully signalizes the incompleteness of the self. So when an frustrated person begins to fixate themselves into the reason of their frustration, much like the young Werther, they can sometimes find themselves in feedback loops of frustration and as the day closes they see themselves pretending to have lived at day time and then going to sleep at night, this can get to the point that to them there exists one purpose in life and one purpose only, that is to quench the source of their frustration, and when this prospect appears to manifest itself as impossible they get to the point of questioning the very life they live or that they will ever live, that is, are they alive or are they just living dead, and if so they might as well be dead, this is the suicidal resolution, many may simply stop at this point and simply take their own lives, and many do, but some may take it to another conclusion, if death is the only solution to this predicament that I have been afflicted with, why not to take out part of this system that has brought so much suffering to me before I go ? And so is born the terrorists and mass shooters, for in their mind they have nothing to lose since they have become so obsessed with the object of their frustration that everything else becomes meaningless.Still on this topic of psychiatric and/or psychological problems, one can point out that incels may get psychologically worse if they are consulted by a particular type of Psychologist, those are the ones adherents to the practice of Freudian psychology, this pseudoscience that finds it's ultimate expression on Freudian psychoanalysis is particularly damaging in it's one-dimensional evaluation of people's behaviour, depending only and making everything be about their sexual frustrations or achievements, this type of obsessive focus on one given point of one's life may, through their suggestions, bring into existence problems which weren't there in the beginning; As Nietzsche has once said [...] when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you., also since I entered this topic I might as well point out why did I call Freudian psychology a pseudoscience to begin with, firstly it is because of the recurrent use of ad hoc hypotheses what was once pointed out by Nobel Prize winning physicist Richard Feynman in his Messenger Lectures on The Character of Physical Law, more specifically at his last lecture entitled Seeking New Laws in which he says: [...] A hates his mother, the reason is, of course, because she didn't caress him or love him enough when he was a child. Actually, if you investigate, you find out that as a matter of fact, she did love him very much. And every thing was all right. Well, then, it's because she was overindulgent when he was young. So by having a vague theory, it's possible to get either result. Now wait, the cure for this one is the following. It would be possible to say if it were possible to state ahead of time how much love is not enough, and how much love is overindulgent exactly, then there would be a perfectly legitimate theory, against which you could make tests. It is usually said when this is pointed out, that how much love and so on, oh, you're dealing with psychological matters, and things can't be defined so precisely. Yes, but then you can't claim to know anything about it., the second reason is because it puts too much importance on the sexual aspects of life, and altough this may be useful in many ways to those self-serving bastards, to the majority of the population this becomes dubious at best and to the vast majority of the celibate clergy just plainly wrong.Adjoining to the last topic we may consider the way the media has been portraying incels as unstable and psychotic, using the examples of the 2014 Isla Vista killings and the Toronto van attack, as way to justify the argument that all incels are a threat and that these unsocialized, squarish, virgins that no one ever had any sympathy for to begin with, and that they all should just be fired from their jobs or even incarcerated by preventive detention. Not only that but now every massacre that happens gets blamed on incels before any information is even available about the perpetrators, as I said before I live in Brazil and throughout the time it tookme to write this text a massacre has happened in Brazil in a State school in the city of Suzano in the State of São Paulo, the massacre became know as the Suzano school shooting and before anyone could know anything about the perpetrators the Vice Media site www.vice.com posted an article (in portuguese: connecting that massacre with incels and the 2014 Isla Vista killings, and the Toronto van attack, it is not know if this was done out of ignorance or bad faith, considering that the police has not at any moment until now stated any relation between the shooters intentions and any amorous frustration on the part of the shooters, which has become the somewhat caracteristic reason for the so called incel killers, the only thing that has been alluded is the possible access of both killers to a channel called Dogolachan which is a generic dark web channel where all type of degenerates gather (although by this site standards, we also leave a lot to be desired in the sense of civilized discussions), but any way the people there are not necessarily incels, so much that the great societal debate has been focused mainly around bullying and the influence of violent video games. So we may from this case and from many others like this, infer that there is an agenda to vilify incels, and that this is pushed mainly by progressive leftist media, and in a sense this is really what we would expect, the left is famously know to advocate for the increase of state intervention on the economical life of people and to use policies of sexual liberation as a bargaining chip, obviously we have nothing to gain from those, we are the dots outside of the curve to them, we are the contradictory in their almost hippie ideal of free love, we are the rejected ones, the ones that should not exist, and yet, here we are; It is only to be expected that they would like to crush our dignity, to mock our suffering, to invalidate our perspective, to detain us and to put us away, we the pieces that don't fit anywhere in their jigsaw puzzle image of society.Immanuel Kant was a Prussian philosopher with not only a very interesting philosophy, but also a very interesting life history, Kant lived his whole life unmarried and whithout any romantic relationships, it is almost certain that he died as a virgin, don't be fooled by the recent historical revisionism of his life, it is the work of those who can't accept that anyone could live such an ascetic life, they are doing the same thing that they have tried to do to Newton when they begun to speculate that he was in fact gay and because of that kept his relationships in secret, they speculate this without any evidence to back it up, back to Kant we may ask ourselves how come the man that materializes through his writings, the very same that mesmerized Schopenhauer with his life story, Schopenhauer which by the way was 16 years old when Kant died, and the man that modern historians try to paint him as are so different ? Anyways when studying Kant's life I came in contact with the myth that he used to have a very strict daily routine, and that housekeepers would set their clocks by the time he set out to walk in the park, when I read that I thought to myself what a delightful habit to have perhaps I should try it myself, and in the next day i decided to take a walk in the closest park to my home, arriving there I walked for about 20 minutes until in the middle of the path I saw a used condom in the ground right in my front, it was one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen with my own eyes, what is the problem with people ? why is it that modern western society has become so demoralized ? Think of how Kant would have reacted, have people in the last 200 years forgotten the meaning of the categorical imperative, or even of simple hygiene, has everyone degraded themselves to a point where everything is hedonism ?I once was having a conversation with a friend and I was talking about what would be the right thing to do in a given situation, he simply answered that the right thing for one given person to do was that which gave them the most amount of pleasure, I retorted saying that if that were the case there would be no acts of generosity in the world, he retorted back saying that they would still exist, because people that realise acts of generosity are mainly doing so to feel better about themselves, when he said that I stopped for a couple of seconds and answered that he had to be a very crooked person to just blatantly defend Psychological hedonism, and later I was shocked to find out that his position was almost unanimously holded by my other friends. Don't get me wrong people are motivated by what motivates people, that is of course a tautology, now to go from there to say that what motivates people is always pleasure, is just wrong, let's say that I can't find my car keys because of the mess that is my house, therefore I'm motivated to organize my house so that I may find my keys, someone might say that I am only organizing my home for the pleasure of getting my keys, to which my cynical response is: of course, because every time I have ever picked my keys I have always got a surge of pleasure, haven't I ? , they may then back off and say that in fact the key is just a necessary step to be taken to be able to arrive at the location were the pleasure in fact lies, to which the obvious response is: what if I am going to someone's funeral ? It seems to me that you have quite the bad taste in jokes to be implying that I would feel pleasure for other people's death., having been cornered they might resort to say that in fact I have just organized my room because I didn't wan't to have to experience the agony of not finding my keys and therefore it would just be my desire to avoid pain, to which one can finish by saying That may be the case, but then again I could have just taken a tranquilizer instead of having to clean and organize an entire room..At the end of the day one might try to imagine what it would be like to achieve the ultimate psychological hedonist desire, that is, to maximize the amount of pleasure and minimize the amount of pain, some people might think that this would be their ideal lives, perhaps having a well paying job and a happy and united family, to live in a very safe city, etc ; But that isn't really maximizing pleasure and minimizing pain, something like that would be like being confined in a safe room with enough provisions to last a life time while having a surgically implanted releaser of a cocktail of pleasure inducing chemicals, like dopamine and oxytocin, attached directly into the brain with an outside button to regulate the release of those chemicals; Yet we can't look at something like that and not be nauseated, disturbed, agonized and sad, it is the most pure image of a dystopia. I remember having read that in some old experiment a team of biologists had once done something similar to that to some lab rats, and if I remember correctly they just kept pressing this button all day long, they would not eat, neither would they sleep, they would just keep pressing the button until they died of cardiac arrest, or starved themselves to death, or died of dehydration, or even just exhaustion.As far as definitions go, people are motivated by what motivates them, if you want to call that pleasure that is your choice, one could say any other thing and it would be equaly valid, my choice would be to say that people are motivated by what they perceive to be the right thing to do, for some people that might be achieving pleasure, to others it might be achieving order, to others yet it might be achieving high ethical standards, and to others it might be achieving the most logical resolution, and so on.I would like to point out that we as incels are, nevertheless, a minority, and as such we should take advantage of all those privileges that all those other minority groups claim to themselves, like how in debates minorities would evoke the power struggle between the majority that tries to impose their dominance and the minority that tries to resist the imposed subjugation and how they use this to justify their narrative, or how they try to invalidate other people's arguments by discrimination, by pointing out that those arguments are coming from a specific group (like the usual you white, middle class, heterosexual, cisgender, with college education, ... ), we should equally point out that the majority of the criticism that we incels recive come from people that think they know our situation better than we ourselves, they who haven't experienced being alone for five consecutive years in the entirety of their adult lives, in my country it has become popular to use the idea of a place of speech (lugar de fala), derived from the writings from french intellectuals such as Foucault and Bourdieu, it is the idea that only those which are immersed in a given social locus of an opressor-oppressed dynamics, making only valid the expressions from those in the situation of being oppressed, we again should take this argumentative advantage and use in our own benefit not only as a means to reinforce our narrative but also as a way to block that argumentative nonsense from those people that are not in our situation, a majority which never experienced anything that even resembles that which we have, and that think of themselves as so enlightened that think they know better than ourselves that which we are passing trough, and in their seamlessly infinite wisdom seem to always have an advice for what is our problem and for what we should do about it; Another thing we should be using in our favor is the idea of political correctness, I will explain what I mean by that, in many articles (such as in and ) incels have been called unfuckable and all sorts of mocking denominations to try to make a joke out of us, how dare they do so ? They don’t have any moral or even ethical entitlement to simply disregard us like that, so we should just use of political correctness to enforce at them the minimal amount of respect towards we fellow human beings. And from this we can escalate towards things like political representation, rights against discrimination, acceptance campaigns, etc. This strategy is such that if it were to succeed we would only have to gain from that, and were that to fail, we would “only” be undermining all those narrative privileges of other minorities from within.We now go back to matters of ethics and morality, as I have discussed before it is only when people, otherwise not mentally ill, have already come to see suicide as the only solution to their lives that they then may go into killing sprees, and then having a realistic image of how we, the ones which did not partake at such diabolical violence, respond to those barbarities. I if it was up to me to describe what this would be like, I would say that in such a Oppenheinian dilemma no description would be better than that of the own Oppenheimer (Robert Oppenheimer was the director of the Manhattan Project to develop the atomic bomb and when asked to describe the moment of the first detonation test he said: “We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, other people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds. I suppose we all thought that, one way or another.”). This description is obviously not that of an perfect ethical group of people, but it is a realistic description of the real world, and before anyone tries to say that I am making a apology to mass murderers, I have a very neat example of how apologetically worse other minorities are willing to go to push forward their cause, one such example is one of my country’s binational film cooperation with France, the film Madame Satã tells the story of a queer transgender cold blooded serial murderer that once said “ I didn’t kill him, it was the bullet.” and “ my act of firing only opened a hole in him, who really killed him was god.”, and they portray him as a poor victim of his circumstances in the film even going to such lengths as to exalt his image as that of a dignified person that only by the hellish reality of which he was immersed that made him take such actions. It is this hypocrisy, the same of those that glorify figures like Che Guevara, and so many others mass murderers only because they can somewhat identify themselves with they or with their situation, and when the same type of pathological things happens with incels, then suddenly it is the end of times and people begin to persecute an entire subsection of society because they glorify murderers, as if this nefarious practice never had happened in so many other subsections of society. So even murderer can be pardoned or even glorified if it is for the “right” cause, or in the “righteous” circumstances.To end this already long text I decided to make a proposal to all fellow incels, so long as we desire that which, as every shred of evidence has indicated, is not achievable we will continue to be in a subservient state towards those which are the sources of our suffering, almost like in Hegel’s master-slave dialectic, to break this tendency we have to make a weird inversion of thought and accept the systemic rejection targeted at us, and to understand that any group of individual that may have rejected us, and in doing so may have hurt our feelings, are only the instantiations of a much greater problem. Many people would say that almost by Occam's Razor, if you have two possibilities to explain a phenomenon such as : if a given person is rejected by everyone he has ever proposed to, then the problem lies in him, not in the other people and if a given person is rejected by everyone he has ever proposed to, then the problem lies in a systematic discrimination of those with the same characteristics of the person, and do not care for the individual merit or demerit, obviously the first frase is a more simple proposition, and therefore by Occam's Razor should be the preferential explanation, and yet, although this may really be the case for a section of incels, that is, there are certainly incels that only are incels because they behave unethically and fail to show the smallest amount of kindness towards others and so on, but I don't think anyone really advocates in favor of those people, in fact, the great indignation from us incels come not from a irrational feeling of deserving something just because we exist, but from the verification that no matter how much ethical, sympathetic, and nice one may try to hold himself to be, nothing of that seems to make any diference at the end of the day, when people that have not gone through such lengths end up being able to partake in a relationship, showing that in practice being a well behaved and nice person is, if anything, a second rate attribute when considering someone's attractiveness. Going back to the Occam's Razor problem, considering the first phrase to be right, so that ultimately means that one's self reflection is a meaningless exercise if it means that at last instance it doesn't matter if one thinks he is behaving properly what only matters is how other people come to see a person, and this is problematic for a very simple reason, consider any and all regimen of exception, for example Nazi Germany or Apartheidied South Africa, can one really make the point that if a jew in nazi germany found itself being accused, by literally all of the menbers of that society, of his own existence being improper to the progress of society, then he should perhaps take notion of the scale of the number of people that have made that comment and consider if all those people aren't really right and that he really is part of the problem and not the other way around, and the same thing for a black person in Apartheid, or an armenian in the Ottoman Empire, and so on, and so forth. Clearly one cannot simply take other people judgments about themselves as the ultimate indicator of one's inadequacy, for every systematic discrimination may be translated into a individual inadequacy problem, that is, one nazi may face a jew and say if only you had been born as a Aryan, you wouldn't need to pass through this. or a white person may face a black person in the Apartheid regime and say if only you had been born white you wouldn't need to pass through this. or a ottoman turk may have faced an armenian and said if only you were turk you wouldn't need to pass through this.; Therefore in this nefarious sense the two phrases are one and the same, but I will not take this road and I will consider that the vast majority of people are able to take self reflections upon their behaviours and decide if the opinion of others is valid or not, and yet an ever larger number of people seem to identify as incels, is it really intellectually honest to consider that all those people are incels because they are just blatantly inadequate ? And to do so, nevertheless, whithout any analysis of case studies that may or may not show this ?Even then, taking the liberty to express my own stance on the situation, I have several examples of friends that are some of the most considerate, sympathetic and mindful people I have ever met and they too have been rejected by everyone they have ever declared themselves to, could then one really say that it was because of their abject personalities, or bluntness, or unethical behaviours ? Because if so, I am sorry to say that in all my life I have never met such great towering pillars of composure, that would then seem to be needed for one to be in a relationship, and be informed that I know quite some people that are or have been in a relationship.Then again one might say “why make such a fuss about other people not liking you, one should only live by oneself and not depend on others for ones own happiness, if someone comes along that actually likes you for what you are, then great, but otherwise you shouldn’t be sad or angry by other people’s choices, after all those are things that are beyond your capabilities to influence, you should only focus to be the best of yourself and this will suffice to be happy, for it will be the greatest reward one could ever desire.”, to me this is one of the most constructive ways to arrive at the so called “black pill”, that is, the complete acceptance of one’s hopelessness when it comes to relationships, and to me this almost completely stoic view accomplishes at the same time a virtuous way to give up onAnd so, nevertheless, we have to face the reality of our situation and know that we cannot really do anything about it, for if we did that would be coercion in one way or another, we can only accept it and in this weird invertion of thought of our acceptance, to develop our own notion of our worth, ideally dedicating ourselves to living a life of virtue, so that even if someone may pity us, we may then proclaim: You pity me ? It is I who should be pitying you, if only I didn't think that to be disrespectful to begin with., we have to take the role of the Cynic that lives under the bridge and that flashes his lantern at anyone and everyone, always searching and vociferating it's search for a single example of a truly honest person, and he does this not because he thinks that he will actually find an absolutely honest person, but because he knows that by doing that he exposes the hypocrisies of society and makes people aware of their own flaws, and in doing that he disrupts the self righteous thoughts of others. We in our predicament must face the truth that life isn’t fair and needs not to be fair, and with that thought in mind, let us not make anyone’s life any fairer, let us be the great equalizers, maintaining, whenever in our power, a fair amount of misery in other people’s lives, accentuating, of course, towards those people that live those privileged lives, that don’t know the hustle of living without the empathy of anyone, at least they should know the antipathy of some.Another aspect which I wish to denounce in this text is about the instrumentalisation of critical thinking in contemporary society, which can be seen in its utmost contrast in Academia where postmodernists have parameterized the act of thinking critically through the so called “Critical Theory” from the Frankfurt School, and from this parametrization they were able to instrumentalize critical thought to serve only to deconstruct morality and to rationalize acts of selfishness, all under the banner of freedom, people are able of the most intricate argumentative juggling just to get their way with things and to not feel even slightly at fault, when in fact true critical thinking would also question the plans and the actions committed by people and not only locally critique restrictions and norms that may have a unperceived holistic importance in the grand scheme of things, in a sense there is a lack of the sort of realism that is conveyed by the aphorism You can’t eat your cake and have it too., too much has been done to justify the actions of people who usufruct of their desires from an ever greater amount of sources, and that at the same time seek the minimal amount of responsibility, so much that people seem to only be critical of their responsibilities, and never of their desires and actions, which can easily be seen in the majority of criticisms in general, it is always the imposition of others morals upon some, or it is the suffocating norms of society, and so forth and so on. When it is in the individual setting that criticism should be more pronounced, it is relatively easy to find problems in exterior things, but not so much in ourselves, and when people are faced with occasions where their personal objectives collide with that which is ethical, instead of making ample use of critical thinking to deconstruct their objectives and then come to terms with ethics, they either forget ethics all together or they try to distort ethics in such a way as to allow, or even imply, the actions that work in favor of their objectives. It is all very much dishonest and self centered, but then again, so are people in general.Consider now the trends that society has been following in the last years, it becomes increasingly evident that the path we are taking is not one of order and virtue, but instead one of hedonism. Consider how no one talks about what the virtuous thing to do would be, we only talk about what would be the pleasurable thing to do, this tendency towards hedonism is highly pathological and in what follows I will try to explain why.The problem with considering the maximisation of net pleasure as the main goal in existence is that at no moment there were, is, or will be a uniformity in the distribution of the attainability of pleasure, that is to say, that different people will always have different amounts of pleasure in their life and if we consider many of the possible sources of pleasure it becomes clear why, if we consider things like love for example we see that it is by its own nature exclusionary, this is in accordance with natural selection and more intimately related with the notion of sexual selection, one funny way one can realize this is by watching the film Crumb (1994) were there is a scene were Robert Crumb recalls his youth experiences in the 60’s and comments on how the image that was passed onwards of the 1960’s and it’s movements and his own memories of them are so dissonant, people have been made to believe that the movements of counterculture of the 60’s, such as the Hippies, embraced the different and how they were proponents of free love and etc. It becomes clear from Crumb's description that they didn’t embrace the different as much as they embraced a very particular type of different, and how the so called free love wasn’t so free after all, if something those movements were nothing more than the exposition of flashy ideas utilized by some people to facilitate and legitimize their abuse of other people and of other people to achieve their desire of being abused. So even in a environment where it was publicly stated that equality should be pursued as much as possible, it still happened that some people were more “equal” than others, which, amongst other things, means that whenever people set pleasure as their main objective, some people are able to reach more pleasures than others, and so we get a distribution, some would say that it is a Pareto distribution, of how much pleasure on average different people are experiencing, since there are finitely many people there must exist a global minimum and this minimum must be very low in general. Now we arrive at a critical point of the reasoning, some people within a neighborhood of this minimum will become much infuriated at this discrepancy between people that they begin to stop feeling pleasure from the small sources that are accessible to them and in their search for maximizing their pleasure might face that there exists pleasure at taking out the pleasure of other people, of robbing others of their pleasures, to christian people this is basically Cain and Abel where as for more laic people this can be seen in the French Revolution for example. So here we get that hedonism in it’s search of the maximization of pleasure will invariably fail at achieving that because the distortions it creates will in turn create a lot of suffering when the leveling of those same pleasures come by the hands of those which the pleasure of ending the pleasure of others becomes their main source of pleasure, and so hedonism is, by itself, destroyed.To summarize, incels are those people that are able to best see the world of romantic relationships as it really is, for we are exterior to this world and because we cannot gerrymander our positive experiences with our negative ones in such a way as to make us content with ourselves and with the world as it is, for we don’t have any positive experience to superimpose over our negative ones, and to us remains only to accept this gruesomeness and to swallow this caustic reality, for we don’t have, and probably never will have, the positive experience which would allow us to retroactively disregard all of our negative experiences and to make all seem much more fair than it had really been, just like how a gambler might quite suddenly change his view on the fairness of a game if after a long chain of losses he finally wins a little, of course nothing compared to what he had lost previously, but then he convinces himself that all those losses were just unluckiness and that since he had won now, he will have way more chances to win again. Nevertheless even if we were to achieve such a positive experience, it does not change the legitimacy of the criticism from those which were forsaken of such privilege, even if those people were hypothetical to begin with, which they are not.", "Will read later...", "Last image of the graphs was a zoom and did not got uploaded well", "Dude make a separate thread for part 2 TBH", "I would prefer if it were all together in one thread.", "My final message, goodb ye", "stop necroing this", "Read every single word bro, high effort post.", "not a single fucking word", "Yeah sorry boyo way too long no way I’m reading this.", "@MENSA_IQcel and @BlkPillPres eat your heart out. a greycel mogs you at making autistic long threads", "MountainGorilla said:@MENSA_IQcel and @BlkPillPres eat your heart out. a greycel mogs you at making autistic long threadsI respect this greycel, and I will read it.", "CopeToNotRope said:What will you name this book?MountainGorilla said:@MENSA_IQcel and @BlkPillPres eat your heart out. a greycel mogs you at making autistic long threadsYes he does, because my threads aren't autistic", "Dalek.Skaro said:For the last months I have been reading and listening to several articles, jornalistic reports, podcasts, debates and interviews about the incel phenomenon in modern society, and even if the majority of them were highly against incels, I should point out that their argumentations were either wildly imprecise or relatively easy to deconstruct, but whenever there was an incel present they would not be any better at argumentations, which is somewhat understandable for even if one passes trought a very specific situation it does not mean they are some type of professional debater that will be able to defend the views that he has acquired trougth personal experience in a suficiently articulated and convincing argumentative speech. It is my hope that by sharing my reflections on this topic that I may strengthen the arguments of incels so that we can have a more productive participation on the societal debate about incels.To begin this discussion we should observe that essentialy what inceldom is, is a symptom of the existence of sexual selection in the midst of human societal practices, I would say that to many people this is not so much of a problem to accept, and that would be true, but there is at least one group of people that this becomes somewhat of a taboo when they are beeing completely honest in the discussion, and those are the people that defend egalitarianism, sure what they usualy mean when they are defending egalitarian measures is that they don't agree with how in Captalism a person is arbitrarily born in either a rich family or a poor family and that the one born in a rich family has way more opportunities than someone born in a poor family, and how this makes many poor people work their entire lifes, many times not beeing able to leave poverty and reach the middle class while other people hardly work at all but have the privilege of beeing born into a rich family. On this note it is interesting to notice that what happened in every socialist country when they abolished Captalism and forcifully equalized the economy, instead of money being what people strived for, it became political power, for the political institutions would by then have become more stratified and with the most opportunities centralized around a political hierarchy of the state, and then again inequality emerged for those people with political power and those without, for people that were arbitrarily born into a more influent family and people that were born into a unrecognized family. Of couse, no coutry ever achieved this, but suposing one coutry were able to go trougth socialism without breaking, and were then able to implement comunism were there would be no state and therefore political power would then become equally distributed amongst the people what then would become the thing people would then strive for ? Well I am sure there could be many things but if I were to guess I would conjecture it would be sex, the differences in sexual hierarchies would be intensified creating caste systems where people that were arbitrarily born more attractive would be able to enjoy the status of a higher caste where they would have many opportunities and people that were born very unattractive would live lives as untouchables, members of the lowest caste were no opportunities would ever emerge. In this truly dystopian scenario, but nonetheless plausible for caste systems were very common in India and many other asiatic coutries, obviously there would never be any forced redistribution of sex, for it would be societal sanctioned rape which obviously is a crime ( even though every other forced redistribution of capital, and of political influence were also crimes, although one could argue that they were of different proportions) and therefore we would never really have any egalitarian utopia but only changes of through which medium inequality would arise.All this talk about socialism and comunism has made me remember Slavoj Zizek’s article about incels ( and how he commits the hilarious mathematical error of saying things like We would thus oppose the logic of universal human rights and the logic of social hierarchy as the two sides of a Moebius strip when one of the most notorius characteristic of a moebius strip is that it only has one side, it gets even worse when after that he says and focus on their point of intersection (« Facepalm » ) what does he mean ??? the whole strip ??? And when you think it couldn't get any worse he begins to talk about turning and reversing shapes which only have one side, it's like some sort of mathematical torture, I know he is a specialist in Hegel and that makes him by consequence a specialist in meaninglessness and in utterly nonsensical things but this is too much. It is nothing more than the screaming example of double standards at play and nothing more, only then could he make a distinction of two things that are the same, that is, there can be no true equality if it doesn't encompass every significant thing in a person's life and that includes politico-economic life and sex . Although until here it may seem that I am advocating that there should be some type of enforcement of sexual partners, I would like to express how utterly appalling I think such thing is, and if you think that would be the only way to achieve equality of sexual relationships amongst everyone, then you are agreeing much more with the so called incel black pill than you are openly expressing. It is funny how the incel-normie situation resembles that of the lumpenproletariat - proletariat situation, much like how the proletarian class looks at the bourgeois class with envy, the proletarians at the same time despise and fear the lumpenproletarians for they may envy the proletarians, just like how the proletarians envy the bourgeois, and in doing so they may undermine the legitimacy of the proletarians in the class struggle and in this way prevent the Proletarian revolution.This takes me to the question of do incels belive they are entitled to sex ? To which my answer would be : not any more than anyone else. I mean think for a minute, when an incel goes to declare himself to someone and ultimately gets rejected, the very rejection could only happen either because this person does not want to be in any relantionship ever, or because the person he declared himself to thinks they are entitled to someone better. Incels are not any more guilty, than they are victims of entitlement. And then one would say that there are no more reasons to belive that there should be any asymmetry between dating strategies of males and females, and that would perhaps be the case if humans layed eggs instead of adopting a gestational strategy in which the mother becomes vulnerable, which by itself, was a big problem since humans where nomadic for the greater part of our existence, and therefore there was evolutionary pressure to make females have higher standards whenever they would select their mates, to justify the risk they would have to pass through. Ok, so if this is something that has been this way since times immemorial why is inceldom a contemporary problem ? I would not say it is a contemporary problem, it is a problem which has been greatly amplified in comtemporary times in which everyone is having way fewer children because of the cost, and because it is only in contemporary times that we have seen the dismantlement of what feminists would call the patriarchy, and more conservative people would call the traditional family model and there is also the absolute abandonment of responsibility. Those things contribute first to women beeing more picky as a return to those more primordial instincts in these times in which it has become so expensive to have children, and along with the understanding that stability together with responsibility are in the decline, making women in general choose a much more select group of men, and beeing with any one of them by much less time. Creating a whole mass of women that have not been in many, if any, long therm relationships, a group of men that have relative easy acess to as many relationships as they desire and another group of men that have each time less and less chance of being in a relationship. Returning to the question of entitlement, if there is such a thing as a belief of entitlement to sex that is supported by a whole subsection of the population then we have to look for the origin of this belief, and although many people would go quite trigger happy to say that the source of this entitlement is this forum and others like it, I wouldn't be so sure of this, for a forum only reverberates opinions and narrative images that are already existent in society, this problem, if it exists at all, is much more profound than that, it has to do with the socialization process, and to better illustrate what I mean by saying that I will make reference to a personal experience, not because I think this will prove anything about how everyone behaves, for it is certainly statistically insignificant, nevertheless I belive this report will bring to light the superstructure of values and beliefs present in contemporary society that does much more to foster this entitlement than it does to sever it, that is to say that although statistically insignificant I belive my report not to be meaningfully insignificant.When I was in High School I remember that in the first of a series of classes about sex education there were phrases profered such as Since everyone in here will sooner or later have a sexual relationship ... and sex is a fundamental part of every healthy lifestyle and many other like-minded sentences, since in my family I have an uncle that, differently from every other adult in my family, was not married and I remember the day that I, as a young boy, asked my mother why that was and she said that he was never able to date anyone and that he had given up on actively search for love, but she was sure that one day the right person would show up in his life. To me he was always an example of person living an alternative lifestyle, one that was as much valid as any other, for he was, and still is, one of the happiest people that I have ever know.As I grew up I found out that he as a teenager studied in high school at morning and had began working part-time at evening, and once he had finished High school he began working full time in a factory and was living with my grandmother until he had saved enough money to buy his own house, but by his late twenties my grandfather died and he took the responsibility, as the oldest son, of economically helping my grandmother. Acording to my grandmother he never had had a girlfriend and she used to joke that because of that he had become grumpy. As time had passed he knew nothing but rejections in every declaration of love he had ever made, until he had enough of it and stopped caring about love all together. My uncle was what we would call today an incel. Today he is 78 years old and lives a simple retired life, he likes to buy old watches and repair them if so they need and then he sells them at slightly higher prices than for what he purchased, he goes on walks in parks and plays chess.When I was having the first class in sex education and the teacher kept implying that sex was a inevitability, initially I thought about myself and how I have never had a girlfriend or even any type of close relationship with a girl and how I couldn't imagine my future self being any better than my then current self in this regard, and then I thought about my uncle and how his situation was the perfect counterexample of what that teacher had said, and then, having become somewhat troubled by what she was saying, I asked : Teacher, you have been making several generalisations about how everyone will someday need to know all this information about sex, but what about those people that do not wish to have sex or what about the people that will never in fact be able to be in a sexual relationship ? Isn't this type of information useless to them ? I mean there are all kinds of important information about self preservation that we don't talk about, like airplanes or ships safety precautions or workplace safety procedures or even how to be careful about possible legal loopholes that might ruin someone's life, and yet we do not talk about these topics, probably because we do not think that they are applicable to everyone in here, so why is it that this classes are obligatory if there are people for which this information is useless and these classes are nothing more than lost time? and why is it that you have not mentioned abstinence as a prevention method ? to which she answered : It is important to learn about sex because even though presently you may not want to have sex, one day when you meet the right person this information will be useful, you may be doubting now about what I am talking but it is not as if we choose for whom we will fall for. this answer made me really unconfortable back then and reflecting about it made me realise that society as a whole is in large part to blame about people believing that they are entitled to sex, people feed hope of a better romantic future, many times in direct oposition to what every shred of evidence seems to indicate, to those who have difficulties with romance with talks like “ you don’t need to be worried about being rejected you just have to be yourself and one day someone who values you for what you are will appear.” and “you are a nice person you just need to wait until someone realises that.” and “ I’m sure that if you did X you would be much more in evidence and people would notice all the other great aspects about you” and “the right person for you is somewere out there you just have to find them” etc.We drown people with all these hopes and promises and then we become infuriated if they ever complain about how they think life is unfair for not manifesting love to them as it does to the vast majority of other people, we say to they then “you are not entitled to sex” and “of course nobody will want you if you have that attitude” among other things, this is simply a image of how hypocrite and full of double standards society really is, in a first moment out of pity and some times as a form of doing away with a annoying situation, we offer this blind hope to those people in such a way as to make we not need to feel guilty with ourselves for our accomplishments and to not have to deal with any annoying and complicated thing as the romantic frustrations of another person, but in fact we don’t know if any of those promisses we made will ever be fulfilled and to begin with there is no way we can know about those things, and when all this hope we gave to those people backlashes we become offended or we laugh and ridicule that which we ourselves fostered.That being said, I don’t tink there is anyone who actually thinks that they are entitled to sex in as much as there is people that recognise that intimacy is a type of fundamental human need and that people deserve to have such needs fulfilled. This understanding that intimacy is a fundamental human need can be very well observed in those people that go to psychologists and decide to talk about their romantic shortcomings, and the answer of the psychologist is never to say: “Get the hell out of my consultory! You are not entitled to sex or intimacy or romantic appreciation, if you have not yet understood this, I advise you to stop being a cry baby and deal with it !”. The problem about fundamental human needs and if these needs implicate rights is a difficult and important debate, especially for those that honestly hold a more egalitarian ethos, but it is not one that I will tackle in these reflections. To be completely fair then I will assume that someone that, trough the contrapositive of a belief arrive at another, that is to say, if someone believes that “I don’t deserve to live in solitude” it implies the belief that “I deserve companionship “, and since I consider that the original belief is as valid as the belief that “I don’t deserve anything “ that implies “I don’t deserve companionship “, leaves me to conclude that it is as fair to think that one does not deserve companionship as it is to think that one deserves.Another story from when I was in High School is about one day in which we, the students, were handed a survey about our future aspirations and some of the questions were in multiple choice format, in particular one of those questions were “What is your most important objective in life ?”, amongst the answers were things like having a successful career, having a comfortable life with many travels trough the world, living a balanced life with no lack’s and no excess, and also there was a option that said “to marry, establish a family and have kids.”, initially I had read this sentence with a certain disregard, perhaps because at that time I already had a notion, based on what I had witnessed by then, of how my future would be like, and It had made the very notion of “establishing a family” as not something one could ever strive for, that is to say, it wasn’t anything that one could ever direct any work or effort towards, people would just live their lives and dedicate themselves to their ambitions, and only if one such people had the luck of meeting with someone that not only they liked but that also liked them in return, would then one be able to “establish a family”, in a sense this were a random event that could or could not occur within one's person lifetime, it is not something that has a continuous progression and therefore it is not something that one could rush towards as a objective, because there isn’t even any direction to rush towards. In my mind only those emotionally needy people would choose that option, those people that don’t seem to be able to be alone for any amount of time, and that always seem to be dating someone, and that make periodic references to their significant other and how they wished they were together in that specific moment. These people seem to be afraid of being alone or of even loneliness itself, it is the type of people that would say that their biggest fear is to die alone, and in saying that forgets that in life the majority of people are born alone and die alone, and they kind of contemn the lives of those people that live their entire life in solitude. With my disregard towards people that would choose the alternative “to marry, establish a family and have kids.”, I openly expressed my opinion about what I thought of that to my two best friends, it so happened that one of them had chosen that option in his survey, we then entered a discussion about how in my opinion that was a pathetic objective, and my friend rightly pointed out that what is important to each person is subjective which put me in a position where I had to concede that he had won the argument, and although in that moment I still didn’t think that objective to be worthy of being the most important to anyone, that for me was still the aspirations of cattle not of (mostly) rational human beings, but as time went on I began to see from new points of perspective this aspiration and began to not think so lowly of people who thought of constituting a family as their main objective in life and in fact at some point I began to accept that as valid as any other objective people might have in life, things like thinking about how according to several economists one of the main factors that move the economy is in fact the establishment of families, which generates many demands that in turn creates jobs to increase the supply and in this way equilibrates prices, other perspective that was quite enlightening was that of looking towards my own parents to which I am indebted for the rest of my life for having cared for me throughout my whole childhood and adolescence and how they sacrificed many things in favor of securing better opportunities in life to me and my siblings, than that which they themselves had, and they did that because their biggest objective in life is the well-being of their family, having benefited myself from such a life ambition how could I criticize others that may wish to follow the same objective ?Obviously I can’t. And so I have come to terms with people who have their main ambition in life “to marry, establish a family and have kids.”, but immediately we arrive at a problem, take this friend of mine as a example, my social life in High School was mainly interacting with people who had the same problems to fit in with the rest of the class as myself, and this friend of mine was not different in this sense, I have kept in contact with the majority of my friends of High School and with my two best friends, and even now many years after we graduated High School and University none of us has ever had any relationships, even my friend which his biggest dream is to marry and constitute a family wasn’t able to even have a girlfriend in all of this time, so, even though it is not my life, I still think we have to reflect about this cases in which a person begins to see the years and years go by and their humble, if I may say so, life's dream appearing to be every time farther and farther away of being realized, can someone really be angry at the thought of someone in this situation gets disenchanted with life, and sometimes by doing so, begins to resent people in general ? Since I am talking so much about High School let me make an analogy with one of my particular experiences in High School, do any of you know how it feels like when you like something let’s say an group sport like soccer or basketball for example, but every time people would make the teams you were always the last one to be selected ? Well I know very well how this feels because that last person to be selected was always me, I used to like to play volleyball with my family in a volleyball court that was close to home, I never was very athletic but I liked to play, but as I began to play volleyball, any sport really but I liked volleyball in particular, in PE class in Middle School and High School I was always the last one to be chosen for any team and during the game all my teammates always treated me as some type of dead weight that they had to carry, and it was by observing their behavior towards me that little by little I not only stopped liking volleyball, but it became the sport that I hated, and still hate, the most. The feeling of being treated as if you are incapable of any positive collaboration to the victory of the team, the sporadic occasions in which a member of your team noticed how sad you were at not being able to participate in the game and purposely let you touch the ball, only to make themselves feel better for what they were doing, as if that was some act of charity they were performing. It all got to my nerves at some point and all I could feel every time I played volleyball was how little my classmates thought of me.One can make a parallel between my description of the games of volleyball on my School years to what happened to my friend that had as his main ambition in life “to marry, establish a family and have kids.” in his adult life, except that in life no one is obligated to accept you just because you have offered yourself, so were you to be the last to be selected, in fact you just wouldn’t be selected at all, and that is what happened to him ( it also happened to me ). And sometimes when his Parents or his work colleagues noticed how lonely he were they would try to arrange to him a date with some women, and when he ultimately didn’t succeed at making a girlfriend, they would go to him and criticize him for letting such a chance let go like that, as if they were doing some type of charity to him. Could you really get mad at him for resenting those people who always seemed to reject him and also those people that felt bad for seeing the contrast between their lives and that of my friend and “mercifully” decided to offer him some time of emotional charity by arranging a date with some single woman they knew, only to not have to witness the loneliness of others.Another topic that I have been thinking about was about how we model our understanding of the existence of incels in society, and since I have been watching several lectures of Jordan Peterson, I have been interested in the Jungian idea that at the most primitive and/or fundamental level we human beings model the world trough the use of archetypes, it then stimulated me to think about which character would best represent the incel archetype ? Thinking about it quite meticulously it came to mind at least two stories that had major characters that we would today categorize as incels, those would be The Hunchback of Notre Dame’s Quasimodo and Cyrano de Bergerac’s Cyrano. Although Each of the stories have their own qualities and defects, through the semiotics of inceldom both characters are the representation of one societal occurrence, that is the utterly bankruptcy of Ethics at the predilection of Aesthetics, and as such I ultimately would have to choose Quasimodo as the better representative of the incel archetype, given the genius of Victor Hugo there is actually a passage in which Quasimodo leaves two vases in the window of Esmeralda’s room “One was a very beautiful and very brilliant but cracked crystal vase. It had allowed the water with which it had been filled to escape, and the flowers which it contained were withered. The other was an earthenware pot, coarse and common, but which had preserved all its water, and its flowers remained fresh and crimson. I know not whether it was done intentionally, but Esmeralda takes the withered flowers from the crystal vase and presses them passionately on her heart for the entirety of the day.”. This symbolism represents almost perfectly the incel conundrum, this behavior of Esmeralda is the behavior of the vast majority of females, and although we cannot say that every incel can be described as a person that is internally akin to vibrant flowers that remained fresh and crimson, even if we were to exclude those that are morally corrupt, which seem to be homogeneously distributed trough all social groups, there would still be those that have scarred hearts from their previous failures, although the vast majority of incels have been naive and hopeful at some time in their lives, this naivety progressively becomes a presupposition of malice and this hope becomes scorn, that is to say, can one honesty believe that a unkept flower in a uncracked earthenware pot would not shrivel, dry and die ? Given that it’s necessities were not being fulfilled in a very long time (perhaps even never) ?The usual reading of The Hunchback of Notre Dame, from my experience, looks with disdain towards the indirect rejection he suffers from Esmeralda, some people look at that and categorize it as a simple sexist instance of “it’s tragic because he didn’t get the girl”, where the situation is not anywhere that straight up, to quote Jordan Peterson on rejection: “It is a real judgement, at best it would be like: while I don’t mind your physical presence, your genes should definitely not survive another generation”, and if that was all perhaps that would be okay, but that is not all that happens, Esmeralda chooses Phoebus instead of choosing Quasimodo or even not choosing anyone at all, she rejects Quasimodo despite all of his good intentions and chooses Phoebus regardless of his egotistical intent. Why does she do that ? This has already been answered in these reflections, it is because se makes an aesthetic judgement and not an ethical one, Quasimodo is judged for his ugly and deformed appearance, of which he had virtually no choice, and Phoebus is judged for his handsomeness, of which he had been gifted without having done anything to deserve such blessing. Other people see that as a pathetically obvious result: “what did he expect ? Esmeralda is way out of his league, he should just accept that and hope that he finds someone that is just as ugly and deformed as himself, if that is even possible, and why should I even care for such a story ? The vast majority of the population, including myself, is neither deformed or that ugly and never have passed or will pass though such a life.”, whilst ignoring it’s own connotation as wildly discriminatory and sickly eugenic, much like Plato in his Republic: “It follows from our former admissions that the best men must mate with the best women in as many cases as possible, while the opposite should hold of the worst men and women; and that the offspring of the former should be reared, but not that of the latter, if our flock is going to be an eminent one. And all this must occur without anyone knowing except the rulers ... So then, we will have to establish by law certain festivals and sacrifices at which we will bring together brides and bridegrooms, and our poets must compose suitable hymns for the marriages that take place. ... I imagine that some sophisticated lotteries will have to be created, then, so that the inferior man of that sort will blame chance rather than the rulers at each mating time. ... And presumably, the young men who are good at war or at other things must —among other prizes and awards — be given a greater opportunity to have sex with the women, in order that a pretext may also be created at the same time for having as many children as possible fathered by such men.”, this is said by Plato, one of the most influential philosophers of the western world, so it is not that strange that people with such eugenic thoughts still exist and many times do not even realize the dangerous similarities between these two views, to simply accept this imposed hierarchy is not any better than to be like sheep that cannot begin to fathom the intentions of the shepherd.That leaves us to think why is it exactly that almost every decision one can make is subjectable to ethics, with the notorious exception of romantic/sexual judgments, it is at this intersection between a unscrupulous pursuit of one’s desire and a prudent restriction towards ethical conduct, that the intellectual dishonesty begins, because there are considerable interests at stake, therefore the very notion of ethics in the judgment of romantic partners is discarded and this rustic, amorphous, sometimes even mystical, and a priori unprincipled imagery of what is love is pushed forward as a means to justify partial/biased judgment and to crush dissent among those that are at the margin in this aspect of life. This imagery is propaganda, and just like any propaganda, it seeks to create a narrative that encourages complacency towards the present status quo and vilifies the desistance of pursuit of those success goals that have been dictated by the narrative. That is why there are people that having been exposed to the narrative that effort is not only necessary, but sufficient to achieve economical success, for example, these people that take contemporary society to be a complete meritocracy, can pass by a homeless person and not only they become incapable of being sympathetic towards the difficult situation that those in misery pass through every day, but take that as a just sentence, for if those people had been committed and hardworking they wouldn’t be in this situation to begin with, as they are it can only mean that they haven’t been those things, that they haven’t put enough effort to free themselves from poverty in which case they are only experiencing that which they deserve and one should only feel repugnance and aversion towards those people.If anyone thinks that this is only exaggeration and a way to justify an inferiority complex, or as people in my country say a mutt complex, if you think so I suggest to you to make a thought experiment, imagine you had to cheer up Quasimodo that was sad because of his loneliness, could you honestly tell him things like “You just have to keep trying to find your soulmate, she is definitely out there.”, would you really think that was the case for someone that deformed ? And if you would say that what makes you think that this situation is any different from that which was jokingly pointed out by George Carlin in one of his jokes about prisons where he said something like “Everybody more or less agree that we need more prisons, some people even scream 'BUILD MORE PRISONS ! ... but not in here.' “. It is like those people that keep saying how people should be seeking love because they believe that society is full of bitter and resentful people , but then feel insulted if anyone they don’t fancy ever declare romantic feelings towards them. This characterizes a insidious cycle where society at large advocates for love as a fundamental element of having a successful life, and then there is a number of people that fail at that, and then society reaffirms love and then surprisingly enough more people seem to fail and then not only society reinforces this idea of love, they condemn those that fail at it, this is what is happening in Japan where an ever increasing number of men are not able to find female romantic partners, which then reflects negatively in the number of births which then begins to affect the economy of the country, another bizarre phenomenon that is happening there is that the number and popularity of female aimed brothels, or as they call it there Host clubs, that although also exist in the male oriented forms, they don’t reach the ridiculous proportion that the female oriented Host Clubs have achieved where there are literally huge billboards promoting the most popular “hosts”(gigolos) outdoors in clear day light , and then some people begin to complain that this situation is unique to Japan and that the situation on the vast majority of the world is different from that, and that may be true presently, but what they fail to see is that the demographics of present day Japan accurately represents the projections for the immediate future of all developed countries and that it already began to show in developing countries as well, so we would better learn what can be learned from Japan's situation because we will pass trough that soon enough.Returning to how ethics has lost to aesthetics in the dating landscape, we may depart from a rational ethical analysis from what we experience in our failed attempts at dating, and the most recurring basis for rejection is not behavior or education or dedication, these things only achieve critical importance once two people have already begun dating, the thing that really works like a filter is attractiveness, which fundamentally means looks, knowing this we may begin this ethical analysis by asking what it means to exert judgment on other people mainly trough aesthetics, and that is, what makes anyone more aesthetically pleasing than another person ? Is it the actions that one chooses to take ? Is it the way one thinks about things ? Is it the behavior one upholds ? Is it the personality one has developed throughout his life ? Or is it one's physical appearance which was primarily defined by his genetics at the moment of birth, and secondly by the environment in which he grew up, both of which are random events in which one doesn’t have any influence over ?Supposing one has honestly answered those previous questions can anyone say that the physical appearance is not a fundamental factor towards attractiveness ? If one still doesn’t agree then imagine yourself honestly telling that to Quasimodo, that is, if you were even capable of that. Still in this topic of attractiveness, a strange phenomenon that has been happening since about the 1990's when the percieved beauty standards for males changed radically. Generaly it is women that complain about the unattainability of such ideals, what is obviously a statistically and ethical valid complaint and one that I will take as a given, yet although unattainable they can hardly be said to be unfeminine, if for anything, the unattainability of such female standards arises from the exaggeration of the feminine to unrealistic levels, where as the contemporary beauty standard for males is almost entirely unmasculine in it's nature. The common feature shared by most male models of female oriented magazines is that, with the exception of their musculature and their jawbone that tend to be accentuated, they resemble some type of androgynous angel-like figure, having therefore more feminine traits in opposition to those biologically induced by characteristic masculine hormones like testosterone. In conclusion while women complaints of beauty standards are based in the fact that the cutoff region of what is considered attractive in the multivariate distribution of feminine aspects is so narrow that they become unrealistic, although the variables of the distribution are in principle still comparable throughout, if not all, the vast majority of women; Where as with men the problem lies in the fact that there is a break between men who have in their appearance those feminine dimensions capable of mustering an androgynous look, which has become attractive as of late, and those who doesn't have this dimension to them, and in this discrete, discontinuous classification we have men being forsaken not because they don't lie within some range on the scales of attractiveness, but because they are not even on many of those scales to begin with, that is, some times it is not only because someone is on the lower strata that they are rejected in favor of someone else, sometimes it is just because they aren't even comparable in the first place, and this is a big problem because, may people like it or not, there are way more people that look like Quasimodo than there are people that look like angels anyway.One fascinating exemple of how ethics becomes mixed with aesthetics occurs when a feminist calls all men pigs (or at least some portion of men), is the identification of a men with the figure of a pig a ethical judgement or an aesthetical one ? It almost seems as if the problem was not the actions perpetuated by those men but their aesthetics, that those actions would be somewhat acceptable, were practiced by some Christian Grey of Fifty Shades of Grey instead of some random creep. Still talking about those feminists, there is much talk about how women should just wear whatever they want and that they shouldn't be demurred by any possible sexual aggressor, after all the guilt of any aggression is always of the aggressor (which is a correct assessment, of course), nevertheless it should be pointed out that this type of discourse has many times promoted debauchery and demoted prudency, and this is a problem because, although the guilt of the aggression is of the aggressor, we have to remember ourselves that sexual impulses are not triggered by rationality and logic (hah, we wish that were the case, imagine if things were so simple and reasonable as solving numerous logic problems from a set of propositional calculi « See what i did there ? » ), but by instinct, so that it only takes a person with bad judgement for a tragedy to happen, is it really okay to encourage women to make themselves preferential prey to those molesters ? One thing is to envision an idealized society, another one entirely is to advocate unprudent behaviour in the real world. In the extreme end of feminism we find organizations such as Femen wich proclaims to fight against the malice of the patriarchy, only to do so with malice of their own and to fight malice with malice can only increase the total amount of malice in the world.So we have people judging other people mainly trough randomly assigned traits, considering, of course, that even those who can improve themselves into becoming more attractive have first to have the potential to become more attractive, and this potential is equally randomly assigned. We have then to ask ourselves if this is ethical, which it is not, for it is an arbitrary judgment, and knowing that we must ask ourselves what can be done to remedy this unjust behavior, obviously we could not force or coerce people to change this, for it would be equally not ethical, the only thing we can really do is to accept the way things are and to take our own judgment upon this unethical situation. One thing that I have seen recently that has made me a little irritated was this, rather vulgar, video by BuzzFeed (), the guy in the video is certainly not a very ethical person by what is portrayed of him thinking, but for a second forget what he thinks and what he does in his privacy, no one else in the real world would know that to begin with, what I think is the most irritating thing is the part where he buys a watch to gift to the coworker that he belives he is developing feelings for, even if it is in his own twisted way, and when he finally goes to give the gift to her, he freezes and is not able to say anything and she gets uncomfortable with that and walks away, at the next moment we see him in the HR being scolded for inappropriate behaviour, since when does trying to give a watch to someone constitutes inappropriate behaviour ? It is as Roger Scruton has once said (), as society is tending towards becoming less and less civilized, romantic relationships begin to stop requiring a previous period of courtship and become each time more dreadfully direct, or how Roger Scruton said “Nowadays, of course, sexual harassment just means sexual advances made by the unattractive, who are the majority, so you know, there is a huge injustice in this.”.Going back to the topic of how incels are seen by society, we may spend days and days arguing about how every time there is, for a lack of a better word, a public exhibition of the subject there is always a permeating hypocrisy of some sort, either they think we are just “bad losers” in a way, that just because we aren’t able to date anyone we think it is alright to be whining about how we couldn’t achieve that which we wished, and how this is only because the world is unjust and so on, when in fact the majority of them revert right back to this state whenever their established relationships crumble, and in this moment they don’t think that in fact they are just whining and that they should just “buckle up, kiddo”, or when people are so reductionist to the point that they say we incels are just frustrated because we can’t get laid and begin talking about how this is some justification for why prostitution should be legalized, when in fact just because something is illegal it doesn’t mean it is impossible to find, prostitution, much like illegal drugs, is not that difficult to find if you are actually looking for it, these people forget about the deepest existential question that is in fact what really desolate the incels, these people just say this because they have had the privilege of having had their emotional needs fulfilled and reassured by this they have taken the liberty of dissociating one thing with the other, and having had their emotional needs fulfilled they begin to only think about sex and their sexual desires instead of the more basic, humane, problem. In the last case people just assume that if someone is rejected by everyone they have ever approached, then that means they are some type of freaks that should just lay down and rot, after all the word of the people have been ushered, and the word of the people is law. But jokes aside, I wish to talk about one opinionated person in particular, Natalie Wynn the transexual woman of the YouTube channel ContraPoints, in her video about incels () to which many people took to be a pondered, even perhaps conciliatory, stand on the question of inceldom, yet, although better than the majority of the expositions of the topic she still makes fundamental mistakes about incels, in particular in the part about how the black pill is just catastrophizing, or how she exposed it as being defined by psychotherapists as “A cognitive distortion where anxiety or depression leads you to infer apocalyptic conclusions from mundane setbacks and anxieties.”, every incel reading this might instantly see where the problem in that is, it only gets worse when she gives the first example of such a situation, she says to consider a person that is late for work and that from that they get to the conclusion that they and their hole family are going to die because of that, later on she tries to show how the black pill is just another scenario of catastrophizing, except that it isn’t as simple, consider first her first example, sure one person who once got late may not get fired because of that, but what about someone that is always late ? In fact forget the whole scenario where this person is employed in the first place, this scenario is already too reassuring to begin with, consider instead someone that is unemployed and has always been and the reason that that is so is amongst other things that they seem to always get late to their work interviews, let’s say that happens because they live in a city that has a serious problem of traffic congestion, since this person has not been able to get a job until now it would not be strange if they accepted that their chances of being able to get a job are low, and if they aren’t able to get a job soon they and their family are soon enough starve to death, of course this put in this way has a simple solution, just wake up early!, but let’s talk about something more real, in Brazil there has been a economic crisis that has subsisted over the last five or so years, and that has generated a somewhat new class of labor force categorization, roughly speaking there are the employed, the unemployed and the dismayed (in portuguese “desalentados”) that have given up on looking for a job and that according to the IBGE (Brazilian Institute of Geography and Statistics) has estimated to be around 4.8 millions of Brazilians in the last year (2018) estimates. Which only demonstrates how giving up at situations of an overwhelming number of rejections is not some type of silly catastrophizing, it is something more close to a natural reaction towards this ubiquitous presence of rejection, but let’s go back to Natalie's description of the black pill, she begins with saying that experiences of rejection and isolation, where she doesn’t quantify this, making it seem as if it is just some experiences of rejection and isolation and not the only thing one has experienced, then she says one might infer that one’s unattractive to women, what may seem a plausible inference from someone that has had some experiences of rejection but is quite certain for someone who only has experienced this, then she goes on to say that from this one may conclude that they will be attractive to any woman, which again is a very big jump for someone who has had some experiences of rejection, but it is not that big of a inference jump for someone who was only experienced rejection, she then goes on to say things that are not inferences but deductions from the last inference in points 4-You will be forever alone; 5-You will always be Unhappy; and 6-Women did this to you. And then she goes on to talk about some points that can try to explain why would things be in such a way as to allow someone to come at those previous conclusions, that is points 7-feminism empowered women to do this to you; 8-The social trends that made this possible are only getting worse; And then there is that last conclusion that I will take the liberty of rewriting as 9-Humanity itself, as understood to be the association of every human being as equally “human” and therefore equally deserving of existence, nutrition, education, housing, friendships and love; is therefore Doomed. Having reach this conclusion is it really that strange if someone were to begin to think that the only thing that one can do in this overwhelming scenario where one is faced with nothing more than the perception and understanding of impotence towards the status quo of things ? That figuratively, in this scenario of powerlessness, the only thing one can do is to lie down and rot ? She then goes on to make rampant generalizations about how incels could stop being incels, or how she puts it “Mom the shit out of them.”, if they just socialized more, made some friends, ..., and many more standard discriminatory assumptions that people in general make and that they think they have the solution to. But to be frank I don’t dislike completely her video, compared to what other people have said she is almost comprehensive in this video, and if it were not for her latest video on Beauty ( I would probably not being criticizing her now, but in this video she simply tries to justify why when she makes a plastic surgery it is alright, but when it is an incel that does one it is not because of the pressures of society, it is purely because they want to have sex with women and that they think that by doing that they will have their lives become meaningful, not because perhaps they would wish some amount of love in their dispassionate lives, but then again there is that one frase Natalie said in her penultimate video, what was it again ? .... oh, right it was that it’s “just a privileged person with a platform punching down at a politically besieged group he understands nothing about.” (here it has to be noted that her video on Incels is her most seen video.), after all if you can point out to people that never had a relationship how meaningless it all is and how it wouldn’t bring any meaning into your life anyway, is it alright for her then if we just faced every couple head on and said that their affection towards one another is really just a delusion that their relationship will foster them with any meaning in their shallow meaningless lives, just like a proper cynic would do ? I suspect not !Another problem with Natalie exposition is that a part of the reason that she went through plastic surgery was because she wanted to be more beautiful and attractive, and how she wanted to look more like a woman, but that doesn’t seem to be ethically acceptable, if we were to consider a person who doesn’t like their ethnicity and would wish to make themselves look more like a ethnicity they liked more, would it be ethical to allow this person to pass trough treatments for skin whitening and facial reconstruction just to look more like a given ethnicity, would it not only be the expression of a societal racism that was then internalized by this person, and shouldn’t they be stopped and made understand that ethnicity is simply not something that should characterize anyone as this or that, and that they can in fact be whatever they want without having to reshape themselves to serve the perception of other people ? In this case shouldn’t Natalie just keep herself the way she was because of the same reasons ? What is it that really matters how one sees one’s self or how others see them or how one changes the way they see themselves based on how other people see them? These are difficult questions, but they are questions that demand answers as soon as possible because they are of fundamental importance to guarantee that everything is coherent. You see there was this very famous British mathematician called G.H. Hardy that, tell the stories, hated to look at his own face in the mirror and every time he would travel, he would ask for the hotel to cover all mirrors in his quarters with towels so that he wouldn’t have to keep staring at his own face. Some people today would certainly say that the cause for that is a psychological disorder and that he should go to a psychologist and solve thatHaving faced several rejections, the majority of which didn’t provide any constructive criticism, although there were several instances of conveyed disgust, one still has to hear criticism of this sort: “Your belief that you will never find anyone who would love you is absurd, you cannot give up, you just have to keep trying even if it takes a hundred or a thousand tries, once you find someone who accepts you that will be all that will matter and all those rejections will be meaningless.”. Although it is sad to burst the bubble of such a Happy go lucky though, we have to face the facts nevertheless, and the fact is that the more rejections one has the lowest are his chances of actually being accepted by someone, it is just basic probability theory, considering that for any given person the number of attempts to get a girlfriend is too low to estimate the exact probability of him being accepted at any given occasion, we have to use the best expectation of such a result that we can make with the limited number of trials such a person has experienced, and the way to do that is with Bayesian probabilities, that is by the use of Bayes’ Law to update the initial expectations. To better illustrate this I will present an example, let us say that a young and naive boy would like to find the probability of him being accepted or rejected by a girl when he confesses, because he is very naive his first expectation is that there is as much chance of him being accepted as there is of him being rejected as he thinks to himself: “I don’t think there is any particular reason for me being rejected as also there isn’t any for me being accepted.”, and then he experiences his first rejection and says to himself: “Well, although that was sad, according to my expectation that was as probable as any other outcome”. As time goes on he finds that all five of his confessions ended in rejections and thinks to himself that the chances of that would be about 3.1% with the assumptions he had made, it can be that he was just unlucky, but he decides to make use of Bayes’ Law to update his expectation values of acceptance and rejection, since those trials can only result in discrete combinations of yes or no answers and because the number of possible candidates is so large that we can make the small approximation that there is reposition, which implies the need of the use of a binomial distribution to represent the chances of being accepted in a given number of trials, which when put into Bayes' Law, with the use of the Product Law of probabilities, can then be easily shown to be proportional to the initial guess of distribution of the acceptance (or conversely of the rejection) times a beta distribution with a normalization factor, I took the liberty of plotting the graphs for a given initial distribution of the acceptance probability and its evolution as one keeps getting rejected, in blue we have the probability density of the acceptance probability and in green we have the cumulative of such a probability density: 121781 121784 121785 121786 121788 121789As one can see there is a clear tendency of the distribution to the right, that means that with every rejection the expected probability of a acceptance gets smaller and smaller, parting from a very conservative initial expectation distribution for the probability of an acceptance with a mean on 50% chance, we get that 15 consecutive rejections, and no acceptance since the beginning, later we have a 70% chance that the probability of being accepted is between 0% and 10%; and 20% of chance that the probability of being accepted is between 0% and 2%.Should one get 20 consecutive rejections with no acceptance since the beginning, we get that there is a 70% chance that the probability of being accepted is between 0% and 7%; with a 20% chance that the probability of being accepted is between 0% and 1%. It can be shown that this distribution uniformly converges to a class of distributions so called (Bounded) Pareto Distributions, which are sometimes mistakenly said to have the 80% to 20% rule, but this is only the case for exactly one Pareto Distribution and need not be the one we are getting.I had a friend that once told me he had 34 consecutive rejections since he had begun trying to get a girlfriend, so only for curiosity I made the calculations and there is a 90% chance that the probability of being accepted is between 0% and 7%; and a 20% chance that the probability of being accepted is between 0% and 0.7% that is to say that there is a 1/5 chance that on average* only 1 girl out of the next 142 girls he decides to declare to will accept., (*) considering as if the 0.7% were a larger concentration of probabilities, which is not the case, for it is in the 0% that there are bigger concentrations of probabilities. That may not seem soooo bad but we have to consider that we begun with a very naive and unrealistic guess at what the distribution of the acceptance probability would be like, had we begun with a homogeneous distribution or a distribution that was more centered at rejection we would have gotten way worse results. One funny paper that should not be taken as serious because the writer is too picky and his calculations are imprecise and uses outdated data is the paper entitled Why I will never have a girlfriend by Tristan Miller wich can be found at his web site at So if we can take anything from the last exposition is that it doesn't matter if my probabilities are precisely correct what really matters is that if one person were to be completely rational about it's prospects of finding a girlfriend the weight of all the rejections he had ever witnessed are in fact evidences that his chances are not any good, and that with every rejection his percieved chances of success can only get worse.Bookmarked and will read again. The part where you spoke about the probability of rejections reminds me of when uninstall did his 1000 approaches, and of my own time approaching. When you make goals to approach 100 or even ten women, it is not easy, I once had a goal to approach as much as I could until I'd get a date. By the second day I decided to put it aside, not to say I didn't continue asking women out, but without taking your time it is very soul crushing, and will fuck your self esteem all the way up.Good take on Jordan Peterson btw, I haven't seen him talked about too often here, but he's one of the few men out there who slightly understands our situation. It seems most of the people who dislike us aren't well educated, a lot of scholars are well aware of the rough times a man will go through because of his appearance and don't chalk everything up to personality or chance. A bunch of people will call you autistic and retarded on this post OP, although many of them have the attention span of a special ed kid with ADHD, meaning they likely barely read your post at all. Good job on the post ", "It is neverending...", "CopeToNotRope said:What will you name this book?", "Reprobus said:Bookmarked and will read again. The part where you spoke about the probability of rejections reminds me of when uninstall did his 1000 approaches, and of my own time approaching. When you make goals to approach 100 or even ten women, it is not easy, I once had a goal to approach as much as I could until I'd get a date. By the second day I decided to put it aside, not to say I didn't continue asking women out, but without taking your time it is very soul crushing, and will fuck your self esteem all the way up.Good take on Jordan Peterson btw, I haven't seen him talked about too often here, but he's one of the few men out there who slightly understands our situation. It seems most of the people who dislike us aren't well educated, a lot of scholars are well aware of the rough times a man will go through because of his appearance and don't chalk everything up to personality or chance.A bunch of people will call you autistic and retarded on this post OP, although many of them have the attention span of a special ed kid with ADHD, meaning they likely barely read your post at all. Good job on the post I’ll read it after cause my brain is in vegetation hibernation at the moment. But I agree we need more quality well thought out constructive intellectual posts more often in this forum then the occasional drivel spam we encounter very so often which gets far more attention.", "MENSA_IQcel said:I respect this greycel, and I will read it.", "ovrload said:I’ll read it after cause my brain is in vegetation hibernation at the moment. But I agree we need more quality well thought out constructive intellectual posts more often in this forum then the occasional drivel spam we encounter very so often which gets far more attention.Sadly there's a lot more meme posters here, I think they all came from Reddit tbh.", "Good post. Read it all. One suggestion tho, write all this on your personal blog and post the link in your bio.", "Dalek.Skaro said:but there is at least one group of people that this becomes somewhat of a taboo when they are beeing completely honest in the discussion, and those are the people that defend egalitarianism,People like to argue from how they think the world should be, not how the world is. High IQ post, will keep reading.", "Dalek.Skaro said:therefore we would never really have any egalitarian utopia but only changes of through which medium inequality would arise.Agreed. Good observstionDalek.Skaro said:This takes me to the question of do incels belive they are entitled to sex ? To which my answer would be : not any more than anyone else. I mean think for a minute, when an incel goes to declare himself to someone and ultimately gets rejected, the very rejection could only happen either because this person does not want to be in any relantionship ever, or because the person he declared himself to thinks they are entitled to someone better. Incels are not any more guilty, than they are victims of entitlement.Very interesting point. Entitlement is only an issue if it is the out group that is entitled. Also, it is a truism to say anyone feels entitled to anything. I think desire and aspiration necessarily lead to or stem from a sense of entitlement however small.Dalek.Skaro said:My uncle was what we would call today an incel. Today he is 78 years old and lives a simple retired life, he likes to buy old watches and repair them if so they need and then he sells them at slightly higher prices than for what he purchased, he goes on walks in parks and plays chess.Good example of what we as a community can do after the blackpill. I've felt suicidal many times, but I am starting to see that there are things that I want to live for that are not woman related.Dalek.Skaro said:Could you really get mad at him for resenting those people who always seemed to reject him and also those people that felt bad for seeing the contrast between their lives and that of my friend and “mercifully” decided to offer him some time of emotional charity by arranging a date with some single woman they knew, only to not have to witness the loneliness of others.One of IT's fundamental mistakes is thinking that the resentment and negative attitudes produce our failures in dating and not the other way around; that our failures beat us down.", "Dalek.Skaro said:So if we can take anything from the last exposition is that it doesn't matter if my probabilities are precisely correct what really matters is that if one person were to be completely rational about it's prospects of finding a girlfriend the weight of all the rejections he had ever witnessed are in fact evidences that his chances are not any good, and that with every rejection his percieved chances of success can only get worse.Never thought I'd see baysian stats on here. Also, it's funny how most of the people who say 'keep trying, it gets better' don't have the problem we do and haven't had the soul crushing experience of consecutive rejections. Mathematically, it's over. Will read part 2 later", "tl;dr", "lll said:not a single fucking word", "Didn’t read", "MountainGorilla said:@MENSA_IQcel and @BlkPillPres eat your heart out. a greycel mogs you at making autistic long threadsbasedthey all got IQ mogged by a GreycelBlkPillPres said:because my threads aren't autisticcope he IQ mogs most users tbh", "OP was part of mk ultra, he knew too much so men in black kidnapped him and are keeping him at area 51", "I read some", ">be greycel>lurk beyond all possible limits>become more enlightened than any other user>make 4 posts>mog every other forum user>???>profit.Spoiler: A high IQ greycel's stats at the time of posting this:Dalek.SkaroMay Kant tell us how to live a good life.-Joined Jan 3, 2019Posts 4 Online 0", "Best greycel thread of all time", "Rest in peace based braziliancel", "Kirito3 said:Best greycel thread of all time", "ovrload said:I’ll read it after cause my brain is in vegetation hibernation at the moment. But I agree we need more quality well thought out constructive intellectual posts more often in this forum then the occasional drivel spam we encounter very so often which gets far more attention.What we need is mid-length posts. Anybody who needs to write an essay to get their point across generally isn't high IQ it's just mental masturbation. If they need to write that much then they know how to format it generally so it's readable. Mensa_IQcel is someone who's just using it to troll the forum/get reactions.", "gymletethnicel said:", "Holy fuck... Not a single word", "I have no words. Thank you for sharing this. I hope you dont mind if i PM you.Keep writing if you can please. Dont leave.", "WithoutMe said: 24047719,000+ words. That's a lot to digest.36 fucking pages ", "Not digestible at all, try to be more concise next time.I'm about to sleep so I will read later, hope it is high IQ.", "I bookmarked this 2 months ago and since then not a single vowel was read@Zettacel what about you?", "nihility said:I bookmarked this 2 months ago and since then not a single vowel was read@Zettacel what about you?I've bookmarked this thread and will read it later.", "Zettacel said:I've bookmarked this thread and will read it later.", "Zettacel said:I've bookmarked this thread and will read it later.lies", "Wow! I'll just say wow!Can't even recognize the outward appearance of a guy transformed to a trans foid from the normal health care system, but get denied surgery for being a guy wanting to have a more masculine, chad physiognomy.", "tldrwill read later.", "DirtyCurryCell said:tldrwon't read later.", "need a tldr in here", "Red it all at once. This is the best thread I've seen in this forum. And ofc, IT won't touch this.", "soymonkcel said:Red it all at once.Larp", "muharremabi said:Larp", "Haven't gotten down to reading this yet, but I suspect I might need a name change after this one.", "Dalek.Skaro said:An intellectual reflection on inceldom Part 2.Having come to this conclusion that past experiences suggest that any next attempt will probably not be successful and that by each rejection the percieved possibility of success will also diminish one begins to pounder when enough is enough, that is, at which point should one just give up. This matter brings to my mind a interesting topic, you see I live in Brazil, and from 1964 to 1985 Brazil was a Military dictatorship and when we study about this period in school the main thing we talk about is about the way in wich the regime implemented torture as a method of interrogation on vast scales and one of the most popular methods of torture was the Pau de Arara ( macaw's perch ) in wich a person was tied upside down by their knees and wrists, the main purpose of this technique is to put a person in a state of continuous discomfort and agony although more bland at any given moment than more traditional torture techniques, of couse there were occasions in which the Pau de Arara was used in combination with other torture techniques that were more intense in comparison, but even in cases were it was the sole method of torture there are accounts of completely innocent people alleging being part of terrorist organizations that had the intent of replacing the military dictatorship with another form of dictatorship, the dictatorship of the proletariat, those were the armed socialist/communist guerrilla groups in the euphemistically called armed struggle (Luta armada), and in fact there was not only that but there are also reports of completely innocent, not involved, people alleging that not only themselves were a part of such terrorist groups, but also that other family members, equally as innocent and not involved, were also a part of such groups, that is to say, not only there were people so affected by the Pau de Arara torture technique that they were accepting authorship of crimes that they didn't commit but they were also selling family members and close ones with the only purpose of getting rid of the torture through a quick execution. It is perplexing what people are capable of in situations were they are continually subjected to suffering for long periods of time. One may think that this type of torture is considerably mild in relation to the other torture techniques, one might even think that if it were they in that situation they would never do such a thing as those people did, and that perhaps would be true if they were subjected to only a couple of hours or so, but what about days ? or weeks ? or even months ? would they be so sure that they wouldn't be hoping for one thing, and one thing only, for it all to end ?Now I wish to talk about something that has made me feel really discomforted, this is how some people have taken the notions of female rights and have tried to imply that those are really universal, so much so that people have begun to cal them the Human Rights of sexual and reproductive health and rights (what is this ? Is it edible ?), and how this has nothing to do with strictly women's rights. They usually include things like how it is the right of all to make decisions concerning reproduction free of discrimination , coercion and violence, which seems to be really redundant because people already have the right not to be coerced which is already a generally well accepted right, so much that it is part of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, after this it is basically women's rights, which by themselves is nothing bad, women do need certain rights associated with their reproductive capabilities and no one on their right minds would deny that, what is problematic is this false narrative that reproductive rights can be something that can be universalized to women and men. Some declarations become painfully hypocritical such as declaration number 7 of the WAS Declaration of Sexual Rights: “The right to the highest attainable standard of health, including sexual health; with the possibility of pleasurable, satisfying, and safe sexual experiences.” and another problematic one is number 12 that says “The right to decide whether to have children, the number and spacing of children, and to have the information and the means to do so.”. So here we enter a bizarre territory because in the modern world if a man wishes to have a child he will have to begin a relationship with a woman and at some point they may decide together to have children and it is all well and good, now if a woman wants to simply have a child she may go to one of those sperm banks, the thought of which would make Heinrich Himmler open a smile from ear to ear, there they can select the sperm from a selection of donors all categorized by their height, weight, hair color, hair type, eye color, skin color, ascendency, nose type, IQ, ..., and so on. So where a man needs to basically constitute a family if they wish to have children, a woman may just go to a sperm bank and carefully select, with all the spirit of a Nazi, how half of their children genetics will be like, and no one seem to problematize this. Can there really be said that men have the same reproductive rights as women ? If a man wished to have something analog to what the sperm banks are to women, would they have the right to assume full juridical responsibility over the child that was created ? Should he ? Should anyone ?Another interesting situation worth talking about, mainly because of the imagery involved, takes place in the animal world, some time ago I was watching one of those wild life documentaries, the sort that are broadcast in the animal planet or in the BBC, and they were narrating the courtship behaviours of some small primate, the name of which I unfortunately can't seem to remember,it just so happens that courtship in that species occurs in a very specific time of the year and involves the unpaired male monkeys climbing a tree and from the height of the tree they display themselves to any interested female that might appear, once a female selects her mate, through visual selection, she climbs the tree and goes to the same branch to encounter her selected male before any other female decides to do the same, after they both are paired they leave the tree. The interesting thing is that even though there were roughly the same number of males and females, there were still some number of males standing on branches at dusk and according to the narrator there are always males that are left unpaired because the remaining females, faced with the leftover choices, find it better to wait to the next year or so when new males reach maturity to then choose a mate, and the leftover males find themselves also having to wait for another year to be selected. As the narrator was exposing those habits of this monkey species the camera had focused on one of the leftover monkeys, and althought I may be biased to think this way and probably be anthropomorphizing the monkey, I must say that he stood there on the branch facing forward for a time and then after some time he begun to look to the sides and I could swear that I saw on his face a look of despair from the realization that he would not be choosen on that day, that he had been judged unfit for reproduction, and that all his hopes and/or instincts where just crumbling to pieces right in front of him and he then got very agitated at having to face those prospects. Having had this imagery exposed to me i begun to think, well since that monkey had already been judged unfit once it probably will not be any more easy in the next year were he will have to compete with younger monkeys, in fact it will probably be more difficult, and probabilistic there is no reason to think that he will ever be able to be choosen especially given that monkeys in the wild are expected to have at most 15-20 years. At risk of anthropomorphizing the monkey again, would it really be that weird if one of those rejected monkeys simply decided to not wanting to have to bear the anxiety and humiliation involved in those mating rituals and instead to go do any other thing that proves to be more useful to him ? If this seems to be too anthropomorphic then we can simply go directly to the main question, what then about humans ? Should a human see himself in the same situation of that monkey, which we as incels can better appreciate for we are in a sense that monkey, would he be wrong to simply give up on that ? To weave a parallel with the end of the last paragraph, should we be obliged to keep ourselves within this torturous cycle of rejections ? Or will we be seen as Pathetic Weasels ? And if that is so where lies the guilt in the monkey, and where lies the guilt in us ?One of the most meaningfull philosopher to any given incel would probably be Arthur Schopenhauer, he would be the closest amongst the great philosophers to an philosopher who would understand inceldom, with one very important remark: he was a hypocrite, even though he could somewhat contemplate that wich we are facing, and that he had come to the conclusion that asceticism was that wich all had to adopt if so they desired to free themselves from suffering, he never had the will to actually hold any practice of asceticism. But since even a broken clock is right at least two times a day, we have to consider his arguments and reflections and judge them by their values not by his actions. This weird inversion of thought is particularly interesting, for those that seem to be afflicted by the shortcomings that are through us manifested in the world, or as he says: This great intensity of willing is in and by itself and directly a constant source of suffering, firstly because all willing as such springs from want, and hence from suffering. Secondly because, through the causal connexion of things, most desires must remain unfulfilled, and the will is much more often crossed than satisfied. Consequently, much intense willing always entails much intense suffering. For all suffering is simply nothing but unfulfilled and thwarted willing, and even the pain of the body, when this is injured or destroyed, is as such possible only by the fact that the body is nothing but the will itself become object. Nor for [this] reason much intense suffering is inseparable from much intense willing., the rise of asceticism as in: By the expression asceticism, which I have already used so often, I understand in the narrower sense this deliberate breaking of the will by refusing the agreeable and looking for the disagreeable, the voluntarily chosen way of life of penance and self-chastisement for the constant mortification of the will. and the understanding of that as a way to free ourselves from this very interaction of us with the world that brings us so much suffering as in his summary: Therefore, destined originally to serve the will for the achievement of its aims, knowledge [what I have called consciousness] remains almost throughout entirely subordinate to its service; this is the case with all animals and almost all men. However, we shall see in the third book how, in the case of individual persons, knowledge can withdraw from this subjection, throw off its yoke, and , free from all the aims of the will, exist purely for itself, simply as a clear mirror of the world; and this is the source of art. Finally, in the fourth book we shall see how, if this kind of knowledge reacts on the will, it can bring about the will's self-elimination, in other words, resignation. This is the ultimate goal, and indeed the innermost nature of all virtue and holiness, and is salvation from the world. .Such a stance is really commendable, for consider all those ignorant people, like those in this episode of Real Time with Bill Maher: () especially at the 2:40 minute mark, that think that the problem of incels is that we are not able to have sex through the development of a relationship with a girl and that all our problems would be solved if we just hired a prostitute or/and just contended ourselves that this is the only way in which we would ever be close to that which is, I belive, what the majority of us desires, that is, a fully fledged romantic relationship. Imagine what it would be like to simply dismiss such a notion with only such an assertion as that of Marcus Aurelius: as for sexual intercourse, it is only the friction of a piece of gut and, following a sort of convulsion, the expulsion of some mucus. or the impetus of Saint Thomas Aquinas when he allegedly drove away, by wielding a fire iron, a prostitute that his brothers had hired to seduce him and take his chastity away, making him no longer elegible to be a catholic priest. A unrelated topic that I have just remembered is that in the last years there has been an increase in the acceptance of the idea that human beings are not monogamous by nature and the practices of polyamory, open relationships and casual relationships are on the rise (as can be seen in especially at 9:14 and at ) and the very notion of social enforcement of monogamy (as in the Custodian of the Patriarchy article and it's subsequent discussions), we as incels can appreciate that to even be able to reach a romantic relationship with someone can be one of the hardest things in life and that if and when any of us should be gratified with such privilege that it should be treated with the utmost care and reverence, for it is to us a very rare situation and one we may hardly imagine occurring a second time, and then there are those privileged ones to wich relationships come and go all the time and as a means of justifying their own greed, lust and degenerate behaviours; It is the apex of a self-centered, self-serving attitude that only cares for one's own gratification and avoidance of any responsibility.In Mathematics and Economics there is a game theory problem know as the stable marriage problem in which there is an equal number of men and women, each with their own preference list of members of the opposite sex, all of which are monogamous and share the notion that a relationship with any given person is better than no relationship at all, we then pose the question if there are any configurations of marriages in which every marriage is stable, stable in the sense that even if in any given marriage, one, or even both of the members of the couple finds that they would be better off married with another given person, they are unable to change their partner because the other person is already with someone they would rather be to begin with. This problem was solved by Lloyd Shapley and David Gale in 1962, not only solving the existence problem but also coming up with an algorithm, the Gale–Shapley algorithm, to arrive at one such stable configuration which granted Shapley with the 2012 Nobel Prize in Economics (Gale had already died in 2008). It is important to know that the fundamental mechanism that ensures stability is monogamy, should that be removed then no stable arrangement exists at any given time, so that if we were to consider the time evolution of such system it would be chaotic, being better described by attractors and repellors in dynamical systems, and this is chaos, and it does not need to be a randomly almost homogeneous distribution, if anything we can be sure that there will be people with a very dense amount of partners and some with a vacuous amount. Humans tend not to react well with chaos especially if they are always on the losing end.We then get to the subject of terrorism and mass shootings, before anything I would like to express my total disapproval of violence, nothing can ever justify the use of violence against another person, no discrimination, no offense, not even another act of violence may ever make that wich is absolutely wrong anything other than absolutely wrong, and all shooters and killers are (to use a portuguese expression) the scoria of society (a escória da sociedade), they are the lowest anyone can ever go and the worst of all of us humans. Taking from the great brazilian philosopher Márcia Tiburi , sarcasm intended, who developed the exquisite idea of the existence of a logic of theft (in portuguese: , translated transcript: Márcia Tiburi: but people, ... heh ... It is also complicated to say I'm in favor or I'm against, if I say I am in favor, for example, let's say I am in favor of theft. interviewer: Are you in favor of theft ? Márcia Tiburi: [why] not ? I think like so: there is a logic of theft ... a logic in theft, there is something I need, I was contaminated by capitalism or so ... or I ... [you] should begin to think from the point of view of the inversion ... interviewer scornfully points out: I'm already begun ... so ... Márcia Tiburi: So ... then ... I will not talk in terms of what I am in favor, because ... There are many things that are so absurd that if you were to look at the internal logic of the process you would say: ... You know, this would be fair inside such an unfair context. [...] ) , we may ourselves try to trace the logic of incel terrorists (ugh, what an abject subject), to do so we go back to the 18 century when Goethe Published The Sorrows of Young Werther that told the history of a desolate young man that had to face large amounts of discontentment towards love, because of a particular unfulfilled love experience that little by little becomes the superlative origin of his suffering and at the end of the book he kills himself, the history of young Werther contained in Goethe's book was the trigger to a wave of mass suicide amongst young men in Europe that identified with the history of young Goethe, from there we go through the philosophical movement of existencialism, arriving finally at Jean-Paul Sartre when in his play No Exit where he ushered the iconic phrase Hell is other people, from this point onwards that which had majorly been internalised in the self begun to be externalised to the other, the idea that if one were to be by himself he would be emotionally fine, it is only because of the existence of the other that at times entice and at others disdainfully signalizes the incompleteness of the self. So when an frustrated person begins to fixate themselves into the reason of their frustration, much like the young Werther, they can sometimes find themselves in feedback loops of frustration and as the day closes they see themselves pretending to have lived at day time and then going to sleep at night, this can get to the point that to them there exists one purpose in life and one purpose only, that is to quench the source of their frustration, and when this prospect appears to manifest itself as impossible they get to the point of questioning the very life they live or that they will ever live, that is, are they alive or are they just living dead, and if so they might as well be dead, this is the suicidal resolution, many may simply stop at this point and simply take their own lives, and many do, but some may take it to another conclusion, if death is the only solution to this predicament that I have been afflicted with, why not to take out part of this system that has brought so much suffering to me before I go ? And so is born the terrorists and mass shooters, for in their mind they have nothing to lose since they have become so obsessed with the object of their frustration that everything else becomes meaningless.Still on this topic of psychiatric and/or psychological problems, one can point out that incels may get psychologically worse if they are consulted by a particular type of Psychologist, those are the ones adherents to the practice of Freudian psychology, this pseudoscience that finds it's ultimate expression on Freudian psychoanalysis is particularly damaging in it's one-dimensional evaluation of people's behaviour, depending only and making everything be about their sexual frustrations or achievements, this type of obsessive focus on one given point of one's life may, through their suggestions, bring into existence problems which weren't there in the beginning; As Nietzsche has once said [...] when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you., also since I entered this topic I might as well point out why did I call Freudian psychology a pseudoscience to begin with, firstly it is because of the recurrent use of ad hoc hypotheses what was once pointed out by Nobel Prize winning physicist Richard Feynman in his Messenger Lectures on The Character of Physical Law, more specifically at his last lecture entitled Seeking New Laws in which he says: [...] A hates his mother, the reason is, of course, because she didn't caress him or love him enough when he was a child. Actually, if you investigate, you find out that as a matter of fact, she did love him very much. And every thing was all right. Well, then, it's because she was overindulgent when he was young. So by having a vague theory, it's possible to get either result. Now wait, the cure for this one is the following. It would be possible to say if it were possible to state ahead of time how much love is not enough, and how much love is overindulgent exactly, then there would be a perfectly legitimate theory, against which you could make tests. It is usually said when this is pointed out, that how much love and so on, oh, you're dealing with psychological matters, and things can't be defined so precisely. Yes, but then you can't claim to know anything about it., the second reason is because it puts too much importance on the sexual aspects of life, and altough this may be useful in many ways to those self-serving bastards, to the majority of the population this becomes dubious at best and to the vast majority of the celibate clergy just plainly wrong.Adjoining to the last topic we may consider the way the media has been portraying incels as unstable and psychotic, using the examples of the 2014 Isla Vista killings and the Toronto van attack, as way to justify the argument that all incels are a threat and that these unsocialized, squarish, virgins that no one ever had any sympathy for to begin with, and that they all should just be fired from their jobs or even incarcerated by preventive detention. Not only that but now every massacre that happens gets blamed on incels before any information is even available about the perpetrators, as I said before I live in Brazil and throughout the time it tookme to write this text a massacre has happened in Brazil in a State school in the city of Suzano in the State of São Paulo, the massacre became know as the Suzano school shooting and before anyone could know anything about the perpetrators the Vice Media site www.vice.com posted an article (in portuguese: connecting that massacre with incels and the 2014 Isla Vista killings, and the Toronto van attack, it is not know if this was done out of ignorance or bad faith, considering that the police has not at any moment until now stated any relation between the shooters intentions and any amorous frustration on the part of the shooters, which has become the somewhat caracteristic reason for the so called incel killers, the only thing that has been alluded is the possible access of both killers to a channel called Dogolachan which is a generic dark web channel where all type of degenerates gather (although by this site standards, we also leave a lot to be desired in the sense of civilized discussions), but any way the people there are not necessarily incels, so much that the great societal debate has been focused mainly around bullying and the influence of violent video games. So we may from this case and from many others like this, infer that there is an agenda to vilify incels, and that this is pushed mainly by progressive leftist media, and in a sense this is really what we would expect, the left is famously know to advocate for the increase of state intervention on the economical life of people and to use policies of sexual liberation as a bargaining chip, obviously we have nothing to gain from those, we are the dots outside of the curve to them, we are the contradictory in their almost hippie ideal of free love, we are the rejected ones, the ones that should not exist, and yet, here we are; It is only to be expected that they would like to crush our dignity, to mock our suffering, to invalidate our perspective, to detain us and to put us away, we the pieces that don't fit anywhere in their jigsaw puzzle image of society.Immanuel Kant was a Prussian philosopher with not only a very interesting philosophy, but also a very interesting life history, Kant lived his whole life unmarried and whithout any romantic relationships, it is almost certain that he died as a virgin, don't be fooled by the recent historical revisionism of his life, it is the work of those who can't accept that anyone could live such an ascetic life, they are doing the same thing that they have tried to do to Newton when they begun to speculate that he was in fact gay and because of that kept his relationships in secret, they speculate this without any evidence to back it up, back to Kant we may ask ourselves how come the man that materializes through his writings, the very same that mesmerized Schopenhauer with his life story, Schopenhauer which by the way was 16 years old when Kant died, and the man that modern historians try to paint him as are so different ? Anyways when studying Kant's life I came in contact with the myth that he used to have a very strict daily routine, and that housekeepers would set their clocks by the time he set out to walk in the park, when I read that I thought to myself what a delightful habit to have perhaps I should try it myself, and in the next day i decided to take a walk in the closest park to my home, arriving there I walked for about 20 minutes until in the middle of the path I saw a used condom in the ground right in my front, it was one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen with my own eyes, what is the problem with people ? why is it that modern western society has become so demoralized ? Think of how Kant would have reacted, have people in the last 200 years forgotten the meaning of the categorical imperative, or even of simple hygiene, has everyone degraded themselves to a point where everything is hedonism ?I once was having a conversation with a friend and I was talking about what would be the right thing to do in a given situation, he simply answered that the right thing for one given person to do was that which gave them the most amount of pleasure, I retorted saying that if that were the case there would be no acts of generosity in the world, he retorted back saying that they would still exist, because people that realise acts of generosity are mainly doing so to feel better about themselves, when he said that I stopped for a couple of seconds and answered that he had to be a very crooked person to just blatantly defend Psychological hedonism, and later I was shocked to find out that his position was almost unanimously holded by my other friends. Don't get me wrong people are motivated by what motivates people, that is of course a tautology, now to go from there to say that what motivates people is always pleasure, is just wrong, let's say that I can't find my car keys because of the mess that is my house, therefore I'm motivated to organize my house so that I may find my keys, someone might say that I am only organizing my home for the pleasure of getting my keys, to which my cynical response is: of course, because every time I have ever picked my keys I have always got a surge of pleasure, haven't I ? , they may then back off and say that in fact the key is just a necessary step to be taken to be able to arrive at the location were the pleasure in fact lies, to which the obvious response is: what if I am going to someone's funeral ? It seems to me that you have quite the bad taste in jokes to be implying that I would feel pleasure for other people's death., having been cornered they might resort to say that in fact I have just organized my room because I didn't wan't to have to experience the agony of not finding my keys and therefore it would just be my desire to avoid pain, to which one can finish by saying That may be the case, but then again I could have just taken a tranquilizer instead of having to clean and organize an entire room..At the end of the day one might try to imagine what it would be like to achieve the ultimate psychological hedonist desire, that is, to maximize the amount of pleasure and minimize the amount of pain, some people might think that this would be their ideal lives, perhaps having a well paying job and a happy and united family, to live in a very safe city, etc ; But that isn't really maximizing pleasure and minimizing pain, something like that would be like being confined in a safe room with enough provisions to last a life time while having a surgically implanted releaser of a cocktail of pleasure inducing chemicals, like dopamine and oxytocin, attached directly into the brain with an outside button to regulate the release of those chemicals; Yet we can't look at something like that and not be nauseated, disturbed, agonized and sad, it is the most pure image of a dystopia. I remember having read that in some old experiment a team of biologists had once done something similar to that to some lab rats, and if I remember correctly they just kept pressing this button all day long, they would not eat, neither would they sleep, they would just keep pressing the button until they died of cardiac arrest, or starved themselves to death, or died of dehydration, or even just exhaustion.As far as definitions go, people are motivated by what motivates them, if you want to call that pleasure that is your choice, one could say any other thing and it would be equaly valid, my choice would be to say that people are motivated by what they perceive to be the right thing to do, for some people that might be achieving pleasure, to others it might be achieving order, to others yet it might be achieving high ethical standards, and to others it might be achieving the most logical resolution, and so on.I would like to point out that we as incels are, nevertheless, a minority, and as such we should take advantage of all those privileges that all those other minority groups claim to themselves, like how in debates minorities would evoke the power struggle between the majority that tries to impose their dominance and the minority that tries to resist the imposed subjugation and how they use this to justify their narrative, or how they try to invalidate other people's arguments by discrimination, by pointing out that those arguments are coming from a specific group (like the usual you white, middle class, heterosexual, cisgender, with college education, ... ), we should equally point out that the majority of the criticism that we incels recive come from people that think they know our situation better than we ourselves, they who haven't experienced being alone for five consecutive years in the entirety of their adult lives, in my country it has become popular to use the idea of a place of speech (lugar de fala), derived from the writings from french intellectuals such as Foucault and Bourdieu, it is the idea that only those which are immersed in a given social locus of an opressor-oppressed dynamics, making only valid the expressions from those in the situation of being oppressed, we again should take this argumentative advantage and use in our own benefit not only as a means to reinforce our narrative but also as a way to block that argumentative nonsense from those people that are not in our situation, a majority which never experienced anything that even resembles that which we have, and that think of themselves as so enlightened that think they know better than ourselves that which we are passing trough, and in their seamlessly infinite wisdom seem to always have an advice for what is our problem and for what we should do about it; Another thing we should be using in our favor is the idea of political correctness, I will explain what I mean by that, in many articles (such as in and ) incels have been called unfuckable and all sorts of mocking denominations to try to make a joke out of us, how dare they do so ? They don’t have any moral or even ethical entitlement to simply disregard us like that, so we should just use of political correctness to enforce at them the minimal amount of respect towards we fellow human beings. And from this we can escalate towards things like political representation, rights against discrimination, acceptance campaigns, etc. This strategy is such that if it were to succeed we would only have to gain from that, and were that to fail, we would “only” be undermining all those narrative privileges of other minorities from within.We now go back to matters of ethics and morality, as I have discussed before it is only when people, otherwise not mentally ill, have already come to see suicide as the only solution to their lives that they then may go into killing sprees, and then having a realistic image of how we, the ones which did not partake at such diabolical violence, respond to those barbarities. I if it was up to me to describe what this would be like, I would say that in such a Oppenheinian dilemma no description would be better than that of the own Oppenheimer (Robert Oppenheimer was the director of the Manhattan Project to develop the atomic bomb and when asked to describe the moment of the first detonation test he said: “We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, other people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds. I suppose we all thought that, one way or another.”). This description is obviously not that of an perfect ethical group of people, but it is a realistic description of the real world, and before anyone tries to say that I am making a apology to mass murderers, I have a very neat example of how apologetically worse other minorities are willing to go to push forward their cause, one such example is one of my country’s binational film cooperation with France, the film Madame Satã tells the story of a queer transgender cold blooded serial murderer that once said “ I didn’t kill him, it was the bullet.” and “ my act of firing only opened a hole in him, who really killed him was god.”, and they portray him as a poor victim of his circumstances in the film even going to such lengths as to exalt his image as that of a dignified person that only by the hellish reality of which he was immersed that made him take such actions. It is this hypocrisy, the same of those that glorify figures like Che Guevara, and so many others mass murderers only because they can somewhat identify themselves with they or with their situation, and when the same type of pathological things happens with incels, then suddenly it is the end of times and people begin to persecute an entire subsection of society because they glorify murderers, as if this nefarious practice never had happened in so many other subsections of society. So even murderer can be pardoned or even glorified if it is for the “right” cause, or in the “righteous” circumstances.To end this already long text I decided to make a proposal to all fellow incels, so long as we desire that which, as every shred of evidence has indicated, is not achievable we will continue to be in a subservient state towards those which are the sources of our suffering, almost like in Hegel’s master-slave dialectic, to break this tendency we have to make a weird inversion of thought and accept the systemic rejection targeted at us, and to understand that any group of individual that may have rejected us, and in doing so may have hurt our feelings, are only the instantiations of a much greater problem. Many people would say that almost by Occam's Razor, if you have two possibilities to explain a phenomenon such as : if a given person is rejected by everyone he has ever proposed to, then the problem lies in him, not in the other people and if a given person is rejected by everyone he has ever proposed to, then the problem lies in a systematic discrimination of those with the same characteristics of the person, and do not care for the individual merit or demerit, obviously the first frase is a more simple proposition, and therefore by Occam's Razor should be the preferential explanation, and yet, although this may really be the case for a section of incels, that is, there are certainly incels that only are incels because they behave unethically and fail to show the smallest amount of kindness towards others and so on, but I don't think anyone really advocates in favor of those people, in fact, the great indignation from us incels come not from a irrational feeling of deserving something just because we exist, but from the verification that no matter how much ethical, sympathetic, and nice one may try to hold himself to be, nothing of that seems to make any diference at the end of the day, when people that have not gone through such lengths end up being able to partake in a relationship, showing that in practice being a well behaved and nice person is, if anything, a second rate attribute when considering someone's attractiveness. Going back to the Occam's Razor problem, considering the first phrase to be right, so that ultimately means that one's self reflection is a meaningless exercise if it means that at last instance it doesn't matter if one thinks he is behaving properly what only matters is how other people come to see a person, and this is problematic for a very simple reason, consider any and all regimen of exception, for example Nazi Germany or Apartheidied South Africa, can one really make the point that if a jew in nazi germany found itself being accused, by literally all of the menbers of that society, of his own existence being improper to the progress of society, then he should perhaps take notion of the scale of the number of people that have made that comment and consider if all those people aren't really right and that he really is part of the problem and not the other way around, and the same thing for a black person in Apartheid, or an armenian in the Ottoman Empire, and so on, and so forth. Clearly one cannot simply take other people judgments about themselves as the ultimate indicator of one's inadequacy, for every systematic discrimination may be translated into a individual inadequacy problem, that is, one nazi may face a jew and say if only you had been born as a Aryan, you wouldn't need to pass through this. or a white person may face a black person in the Apartheid regime and say if only you had been born white you wouldn't need to pass through this. or a ottoman turk may have faced an armenian and said if only you were turk you wouldn't need to pass through this.; Therefore in this nefarious sense the two phrases are one and the same, but I will not take this road and I will consider that the vast majority of people are able to take self reflections upon their behaviours and decide if the opinion of others is valid or not, and yet an ever larger number of people seem to identify as incels, is it really intellectually honest to consider that all those people are incels because they are just blatantly inadequate ? And to do so, nevertheless, whithout any analysis of case studies that may or may not show this ?Even then, taking the liberty to express my own stance on the situation, I have several examples of friends that are some of the most considerate, sympathetic and mindful people I have ever met and they too have been rejected by everyone they have ever declared themselves to, could then one really say that it was because of their abject personalities, or bluntness, or unethical behaviours ? Because if so, I am sorry to say that in all my life I have never met such great towering pillars of composure, that would then seem to be needed for one to be in a relationship, and be informed that I know quite some people that are or have been in a relationship.Then again one might say “why make such a fuss about other people not liking you, one should only live by oneself and not depend on others for ones own happiness, if someone comes along that actually likes you for what you are, then great, but otherwise you shouldn’t be sad or angry by other people’s choices, after all those are things that are beyond your capabilities to influence, you should only focus to be the best of yourself and this will suffice to be happy, for it will be the greatest reward one could ever desire.”, to me this is one of the most constructive ways to arrive at the so called “black pill”, that is, the complete acceptance of one’s hopelessness when it comes to relationships, and to me this almost completely stoic view accomplishes at the same time a virtuous way to give up onAnd so, nevertheless, we have to face the reality of our situation and know that we cannot really do anything about it, for if we did that would be coercion in one way or another, we can only accept it and in this weird invertion of thought of our acceptance, to develop our own notion of our worth, ideally dedicating ourselves to living a life of virtue, so that even if someone may pity us, we may then proclaim: You pity me ? It is I who should be pitying you, if only I didn't think that to be disrespectful to begin with., we have to take the role of the Cynic that lives under the bridge and that flashes his lantern at anyone and everyone, always searching and vociferating it's search for a single example of a truly honest person, and he does this not because he thinks that he will actually find an absolutely honest person, but because he knows that by doing that he exposes the hypocrisies of society and makes people aware of their own flaws, and in doing that he disrupts the self righteous thoughts of others. We in our predicament must face the truth that life isn’t fair and needs not to be fair, and with that thought in mind, let us not make anyone’s life any fairer, let us be the great equalizers, maintaining, whenever in our power, a fair amount of misery in other people’s lives, accentuating, of course, towards those people that live those privileged lives, that don’t know the hustle of living without the empathy of anyone, at least they should know the antipathy of some.Another aspect which I wish to denounce in this text is about the instrumentalisation of critical thinking in contemporary society, which can be seen in its utmost contrast in Academia where postmodernists have parameterized the act of thinking critically through the so called “Critical Theory” from the Frankfurt School, and from this parametrization they were able to instrumentalize critical thought to serve only to deconstruct morality and to rationalize acts of selfishness, all under the banner of freedom, people are able of the most intricate argumentative juggling just to get their way with things and to not feel even slightly at fault, when in fact true critical thinking would also question the plans and the actions committed by people and not only locally critique restrictions and norms that may have a unperceived holistic importance in the grand scheme of things, in a sense there is a lack of the sort of realism that is conveyed by the aphorism You can’t eat your cake and have it too., too much has been done to justify the actions of people who usufruct of their desires from an ever greater amount of sources, and that at the same time seek the minimal amount of responsibility, so much that people seem to only be critical of their responsibilities, and never of their desires and actions, which can easily be seen in the majority of criticisms in general, it is always the imposition of others morals upon some, or it is the suffocating norms of society, and so forth and so on. When it is in the individual setting that criticism should be more pronounced, it is relatively easy to find problems in exterior things, but not so much in ourselves, and when people are faced with occasions where their personal objectives collide with that which is ethical, instead of making ample use of critical thinking to deconstruct their objectives and then come to terms with ethics, they either forget ethics all together or they try to distort ethics in such a way as to allow, or even imply, the actions that work in favor of their objectives. It is all very much dishonest and self centered, but then again, so are people in general.Consider now the trends that society has been following in the last years, it becomes increasingly evident that the path we are taking is not one of order and virtue, but instead one of hedonism. Consider how no one talks about what the virtuous thing to do would be, we only talk about what would be the pleasurable thing to do, this tendency towards hedonism is highly pathological and in what follows I will try to explain why.The problem with considering the maximisation of net pleasure as the main goal in existence is that at no moment there were, is, or will be a uniformity in the distribution of the attainability of pleasure, that is to say, that different people will always have different amounts of pleasure in their life and if we consider many of the possible sources of pleasure it becomes clear why, if we consider things like love for example we see that it is by its own nature exclusionary, this is in accordance with natural selection and more intimately related with the notion of sexual selection, one funny way one can realize this is by watching the film Crumb (1994) were there is a scene were Robert Crumb recalls his youth experiences in the 60’s and comments on how the image that was passed onwards of the 1960’s and it’s movements and his own memories of them are so dissonant, people have been made to believe that the movements of counterculture of the 60’s, such as the Hippies, embraced the different and how they were proponents of free love and etc. It becomes clear from Crumb's description that they didn’t embrace the different as much as they embraced a very particular type of different, and how the so called free love wasn’t so free after all, if something those movements were nothing more than the exposition of flashy ideas utilized by some people to facilitate and legitimize their abuse of other people and of other people to achieve their desire of being abused. So even in a environment where it was publicly stated that equality should be pursued as much as possible, it still happened that some people were more “equal” than others, which, amongst other things, means that whenever people set pleasure as their main objective, some people are able to reach more pleasures than others, and so we get a distribution, some would say that it is a Pareto distribution, of how much pleasure on average different people are experiencing, since there are finitely many people there must exist a global minimum and this minimum must be very low in general. Now we arrive at a critical point of the reasoning, some people within a neighborhood of this minimum will become much infuriated at this discrepancy between people that they begin to stop feeling pleasure from the small sources that are accessible to them and in their search for maximizing their pleasure might face that there exists pleasure at taking out the pleasure of other people, of robbing others of their pleasures, to christian people this is basically Cain and Abel where as for more laic people this can be seen in the French Revolution for example. So here we get that hedonism in it’s search of the maximization of pleasure will invariably fail at achieving that because the distortions it creates will in turn create a lot of suffering when the leveling of those same pleasures come by the hands of those which the pleasure of ending the pleasure of others becomes their main source of pleasure, and so hedonism is, by itself, destroyed.To summarize, incels are those people that are able to best see the world of romantic relationships as it really is, for we are exterior to this world and because we cannot gerrymander our positive experiences with our negative ones in such a way as to make us content with ourselves and with the world as it is, for we don’t have any positive experience to superimpose over our negative ones, and to us remains only to accept this gruesomeness and to swallow this caustic reality, for we don’t have, and probably never will have, the positive experience which would allow us to retroactively disregard all of our negative experiences and to make all seem much more fair than it had really been, just like how a gambler might quite suddenly change his view on the fairness of a game if after a long chain of losses he finally wins a little, of course nothing compared to what he had lost previously, but then he convinces himself that all those losses were just unluckiness and that since he had won now, he will have way more chances to win again. Nevertheless even if we were to achieve such a positive experience, it does not change the legitimacy of the criticism from those which were forsaken of such privilege, even if those people were hypothetical to begin with, which they are not.Beenus", "ItsOver4cel said:stop necroing this", "SneakPower611 said:lmao u got warning for avi pic? no i didnt", "didnt watch the whole thing yet only 3 min so far just started in the middle but I definitely appreciate the effort done into learning about incels instead instead of the same old tired IT responses", "I wish I knew half the words you're using. Sounds very high IQ. Good work", "Please, no trannies here.", "Insomniac said: 121793", "Is that genuinely a legit post and not a copypasta? Holy shit.Didn't read in any case.", "I read 3 paragraphs and this fucking SHIT is an incoherent mess and rambling of politics. ORGANIZE YOUR PARAGRAPHS BETTER YOU PRETENTIOUS FAGGOT.WHAT KIND OF FUCKING HIGH SCHOOL KID ASKS THIS: Teacher, you have been making several generalisations about how everyone will someday need to know all this information about sex, but what about those people that do not wish to have sex or what about the people that will never in fact be able to be in a sexual relationship ? Isn't this type of information useless to them ? I mean there are all kinds of important information about self preservation that we don't talk about, like airplanes or ships safety precautions or workplace safety procedures or even how to be careful about possible legal loopholes that might ruin someone's life, and yet we do not talk about these topics, probably because we do not think that they are applicable to everyone in here, so why is it that this classes are obligatory if there are people for which this information is useless and these classes are nothing more than lost time? and why is it that you have not mentioned abstinence as a prevention method ?HOW DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT YOU ASKED ON THAT ONE DAY YEARS AGO VERBATIM?" ]
ExperimentMost well-deserved foid execution in history
[ "Which foid execution was the biggest [LifeFuel] for you?", "it's over for notknowinghistorycels", "PEETER said:it's over for notknowinghistorycels", "Marie Antoinette by far. Aileen Wuornos would be second.", "Marie Antoinetteshe reminds me of @knajjd ", "wereqryan said:Marie Antoinette was the worst because of her ignorance about the plight of the peasants.She was also the worst because she was French.", "Sans said:She was also the worst because she was French.High iq.", "I think the bitch is already dead, but the Canadian $10 bill had Sir John A. Macdonald .Some stupid useless cunt in now on the $10 bill. WTF!?She didn't have a job, she wasn't in parliment. She was a civil rights leader meaning she was some stupid fucking cunt?That supersedes historical government initiated figures?All Canadian bills were based with baldcels on them* Until now", "PEETER said:it's over for notknowinghistorycels", "Rosa Luxemburg. Fought for her childish form of socialism, consequences of which would be normies slaving themselves to death and Commie Party chads slaying all the foids. Thankfully, she was shot in the head by a based Freikorps soldier.", "Literally who", "PEETER said:it's over for notknowinghistorycels", "I should of stayed at school", "Joan of arc, the original tradthot. Roastie getting toasty.", "Marie Antoinette is the only one I have heard about.Sans said:She was also the worst because she was French.tbhtbh", "All of them look like caring mothers compared to modern foids who impose inceldom, eugenics, and asexuality to us. Can't decide. But if it has to be from that list Wuornos tbh for going ER to men she claimed raped her. Antoinette just a fool who couldn't decide what she should do. Rosenberg and her husband are agents so it's more political. And Ceausescu's case was also political as it's because of the revolution she got executed", "King Henry VIII was one of the greatest thot patrollers in history", "I dont know a single one but they deserve it", "All female executions are 100% deserved", "PolishMisanthrope said:Rosa Luxemburg. Fought for her childish form of socialism, consequences of which would be normies slaving themselves to death and Commie Party chads slaying all the foids. Thankfully, she was shot in the head by a based Freikorps soldier.A communist Jew, why is she not on the listPicked Rosenberg because she also was a communist jew", "I would say Rosenberg, that jewish traitor deserved even worse tbh.", "PEETER said:it's over for notknowinghistorycels", "All of the above tbh. But if I had to choose only one, I'd say Marie Antoinette.", "Amelia Dyer she murdered 100s of babies for financial gain", "PEETER said:it's over for notknowinghistorycelslol", "VirginAutistManlet said:Literally who", "Rosenberg. Communist scum.", "Rosenburg.! Dumb cunt", "Sadness said: 121925Herald the Great and Mighty Hammer of the Hammercel! KingOfRome said:King Henry VIII was one of the greatest thot patrollers in historyDefinitely.. he made Divorce legal for a Man to fuck a thot and GTFO if he needed to, sadly it has been grotesquely twisted to fit the Whores of todays society. We need to resurrect him to guide the Incel Revolution, destroy the Cucks and revoke Fem rights.", "Aileen Wuornos I guess.She was definitely an interesting serial killer though.", "I know none of them but I’m going for the one with the kike name", "zangano1 said:All female executions are 100% deserved", "Olympe de Gouges", "Rosa Luxemburg", "PEETER said:it's over for notknowinghistorycels" ]
Too bad all the threads are gone
[ "There were some really important threads and comments posted, is there any archive?", "Someone should be able to dig them up, i felt like roping tbh.", "Check archive.is, google cache, the wayback machine.", "i_a_m_i said:Check archive.is, google cache, the wayback machineThose don’t save every thread automatically, it must’ve been done manually", "Octopusgun2 said:i_a_m_i said:Check archive.is, google cache, the wayback machineThose don’t save every thread automatically, it must’ve been done manuallyGoogle cache and wayback machine are crawlers. They're automatic.Type this into Google site:reddit.com/r/incels, there are tons of archived threads.", "I had a ton of shit saved on reddit. Probably should have saved them differently in preparation of the inevitable ban.", "Here are a bunch of Alia_Harkonnen threads: ", "The imgur gallery is still there: fatpeoplehate was banned from reddit imgur scrubbed everything they cold find from it, so get at it while you can", "This one isn't gone though@FallenPrime", "Colvin76 said:This one isn't gone though@FallenPrimeYe @Colvin76" ]
RageFuelJewess gets pussy pass for running over homeless man in Toronto, sub8 males have NO RIGHTS!
[ "Crown drops one charge against fashion entrepreneur in accident that killed homeless man in TorontoThe decision indicates that the Crown is no longer able to prove that Michelle Shemilt showed reckless disregard for the safety of Michael Watts, who died after he was found with severe traumawww.theglobeandmail.comCrown drops one charge against fashion entrepreneur in accident that killed homeless man in TorontoTu Thanh HaPublished June 13, 2019 Updated 30 minutes agoThe Crown has dropped one of two criminal charges against Michelle Shemilt, a Toronto fashion entrepreneur prosecuted on allegations that she drove away after fatally running over a homeless man.Ms. Shemilt, 35, was initially charged with causing death by criminal negligence and failing to stop at the scene of an accident that involved death.At a brief court appearance Thursday morning, Crown Attorney Jennifer Armstrong said the prosecution was withdrawing the count for criminal negligence.“There is no realistic prospect of conviction,” Ms. Armstrong told the court.She made the announcement following a judicial pre-trial before Ontario Court Justice Mavin Wong.The remaining charge against Ms. Shemilt, leaving the scene of a fatal accident, will be dealt with at a 10-day trial starting April 20 next year.The decision indicates that the Crown is no longer able to prove that Ms. Shemilt showed reckless disregard for the safety of Michael Watts, who died after he was found with severe trauma in a back alley in Toronto’s Cabbagetown neighbourhood.“The evidence clearly shows that Ms. Shemilt was not criminally negligent and we welcome the Crown Attorney’s decision to withdraw that accusation,” defence lawyer Daniel Brown said in a statement.The fatal accident took place the afternoon of Sept. 21, 2018, on Nuthatch Lane, south of Carlton Street.According to a police affidavit, a home security camera recorded a cyclist, then two cars, an Audi and a black Dodge SUV, passing through the lane.Story continues below advertisementThe cyclist, local resident Danna Osbourne, later told investigators that she saw and spoke to a man who was sprawled on the ground and appeared intoxicated.The driver of the Audi, the novelist Michael Ondaatje, called 911 to report that the man was badly injured.Ms. Shemilt also called 911 about seeing the man. An ambulance took him to St. Michael’s Hospital, where he died an hour later. He was identified through his fingerprints as Mr. Watts, a 57-year-old with no fixed address.According to the police affidavit, investigators cleared Mr. Ondaatje since his Audi showed no signs of a collision.Detectives later obtained a warrant to search Ms. Shemilt’s vehicle, which they said matched the description of the black Dodge SUV. She was arrested on Jan. 3.A former bank equity trader, Ms. Shemilt founded the NUMI fashion firm, selling her own line of women’s undershirts. She has appeared on CBC’s Dragons’ Den to pitch her project and also wrote an article for The Globe and Mail about crowdfunding for startups.", "Alek Minassian got worldwide criticism, this cunt got praised. They did the exact same thing.", "It's because she's a fucking Jewess, and Jewish people have God-like status in Canada and other ZOG CUNTries.", "Six point privilege if you nose what I mean.", "I don't know why sub8's and especially sub5's still pay taxes when they're not protected by the law, and are more likely to be killed or arrested by cucked cops.", "Not surprised", "Toronto", "Homeless people are viewed as trash. It's like the places that put spikes on the sidewalks so the homeless have nowhere to sleep. Not only that but it sounds like she's wealthy and wealthy people are allowed to kill poor people in this society.", "Hate_my_life said: 121961 121962Weston404 said:It's because she's a fucking Jewess, and Jewish people have God-like status in Canada and other ZOG CUNTries.", "If this was a white cop and if the homeless man was black. There'd be international outcry.Society is still as hypocritical as ever.", "Rot in hell.", "Women are literally getting away with murder now just because of their enabler cucks. ", "I swear why do I still live in this country?", "Skin her alive.", "GAS YOURSELF WHORE SKANK. ", "Ragefuel , it's not far the day were foids would kill sub 7 men in the west legally tbh.", "Hate_my_life said: 121961 121962I'm a feminist. I believe all women have the right to have sex with me.", "This sums up the western world, guy in the gutter worth nothing while a slit groin gets off & can do no wrong; driving a tank on wheels. That bum would of been a family man with purpose in a bygone era.", "Weston404 said:Crown drops one charge against fashion entrepreneur in accident that killed homeless man in TorontoThe decision indicates that the Crown is no longer able to prove that Michelle Shemilt showed reckless disregard for the safety of Michael Watts, who died after he was found with severe traumawww.theglobeandmail.comCrown drops one charge against fashion entrepreneur in accident that killed homeless man in TorontoTu Thanh HaPublished June 13, 2019 Updated 30 minutes agoThe Crown has dropped one of two criminal charges against Michelle Shemilt, a Toronto fashion entrepreneur prosecuted on allegations that she drove away after fatally running over a homeless man.Ms. Shemilt, 35, was initially charged with causing death by criminal negligence and failing to stop at the scene of an accident that involved death.At a brief court appearance Thursday morning, Crown Attorney Jennifer Armstrong said the prosecution was withdrawing the count for criminal negligence.“There is no realistic prospect of conviction,” Ms. Armstrong told the court.She made the announcement following a judicial pre-trial before Ontario Court Justice Mavin Wong.The remaining charge against Ms. Shemilt, leaving the scene of a fatal accident, will be dealt with at a 10-day trial starting April 20 next year.The decision indicates that the Crown is no longer able to prove that Ms. Shemilt showed reckless disregard for the safety of Michael Watts, who died after he was found with severe trauma in a back alley in Toronto’s Cabbagetown neighbourhood.“The evidence clearly shows that Ms. Shemilt was not criminally negligent and we welcome the Crown Attorney’s decision to withdraw that accusation,” defence lawyer Daniel Brown said in a statement.The fatal accident took place the afternoon of Sept. 21, 2018, on Nuthatch Lane, south of Carlton Street.According to a police affidavit, a home security camera recorded a cyclist, then two cars, an Audi and a black Dodge SUV, passing through the lane.Story continues below advertisementThe cyclist, local resident Danna Osbourne, later told investigators that she saw and spoke to a man who was sprawled on the ground and appeared intoxicated.The driver of the Audi, the novelist Michael Ondaatje, called 911 to report that the man was badly injured.Ms. Shemilt also called 911 about seeing the man. An ambulance took him to St. Michael’s Hospital, where he died an hour later. He was identified through his fingerprints as Mr. Watts, a 57-year-old with no fixed address.According to the police affidavit, investigators cleared Mr. Ondaatje since his Audi showed no signs of a collision.Detectives later obtained a warrant to search Ms. Shemilt’s vehicle, which they said matched the description of the black Dodge SUV. She was arrested on Jan. 3.A former bank equity trader, Ms. Shemilt founded the NUMI fashion firm, selling her own line of women’s undershirts. She has appeared on CBC’s Dragons’ Den to pitch her project and also wrote an article for The Globe and Mail about crowdfunding for startups.Kosher roast beef is too powerful for us mortal beings.Thou Art Shall Worship Thee Chosen Ones.", "The Abyss said:This sums up the western world, guy in the gutter worth nothing while a slit groin gets off & can do no wrong; driving a tank on wheels. That bum would of been a family man with purpose in a bygone era.Family Court fucked him ovER.", "Free Alek !!! All hail the supreme van driver !!!", "DarkMTS_57 said:Kosher roast beef is too powerful for us mortal beings.Thou Art Shall Worship Thee Chosen Ones.I've heard of stories of Jewsess complain to police against innocent sub8 males, and the police would create hell for the accused, as if the Jewess wants to play God and punish those as if she is God.One day, Adolf HitlEr will deal with the Jewish problem once and for all.", "Weston404 said:I've heard of stories of Jewsess complain to police against innocent sub8 males, and the police would create hell for the accused, as if the Jewess wants to play God and punish those as if she is God.One day, Adolf HitlEr will deal with the Jewish problem once and for all.It will take some time, but they will be severely punished.Worthless vermin have no right to play the role of an upper class entity.Fuck. That. Shit.", "DarkMTS_57 said:It will take some time, but they will be severely punished.Worthless vermin have no right to play the role of an upper class entity.Fuck. That. Shit.She will be freed of the charges, and the internet will be forced to remove these types of stories. How the fuck did she not see someone while driving in an alleyway?I think that she purposely ran over this homeless man to play the role of God, as she, a fucking Jewish cunt from Toronto, looks down on sub8 males.Toronto Jewesses play the role of God, but one day, for sure, an Adolf HitlER will rise from the ashes of the Jewish hell of Toronto to shove bamboo up her Kosher roast beef curtains, that she will bleed Jewish evil from her nasty pussy and the demons of her Jewish whoredom will escape from her body like a flock of rats fleeing a burning grainhaus. The Jewish problem will be solved henceforth.", "The west is so fucking far gone", "Gas her with Zyklon B", "i wonder waht would happen if I ran over a homeless foid in my BMW", "Mad Baron said:Women are literally getting away with murder now just because of their enabler cucks. ElliotRodgerGod said:i wonder what would happen if I ran over a homeless foid in my BMW", "Honestly with the amount of foid worshipping this should have happened much time ago, society is starting to drop basic morals like justice equality.", "Killing ugly men in modern society is not a crime don’t you know", "God CHOse her people to rule the earth.", "The Abyss said:That bum would of been a family man with purpose in a bygone era.Today sub6 broke men aren't allowed to have families, the government and chad are foid's new family, and low status sub6 men are pushed down to being society's slave workhorses. They don't care if a member of the higher class kills one of the low status workhorses.", "FUCKSans said:Alek Minassian got worldwide criticism, this cunt got praised. They did the exact same thing.Dionysus said:Not surprisedMad Baron said:Women are literally getting away with murder now just because of their enabler cucks. ", "ElliotRodgerGod said:i wonder waht would happen if I ran over a homeless foid in my BMWThis would create national outrage, and the alleyway would be renamed in the foid's name and every year there would be anniversary mournings.Justina Turdeau will also be present in Toronto while his wife cucks him with Lil Tyrone on the side in a hotel.Robtical said:low status sub6 men are pushed down to being society's slave workhorses. They don't care if a member of the higher class kills one of the low status workhorses.It's because Toronto imports millions of sub8 workers & billionaire money launderers every year, which artificially increases the value of a feminist cunt. It's worse than LA because Toronto doesn't have jobs compared to LA, and the quality of LA women are higher than Toronto womyn. Would you rather be rejected by a blond Caucasian aspiring actress in LA or a gutter cunt who used to sort trash in her dump in India or Philippines?Hey, even the ugliest Mexican ladies in the USA are hotter and sexually liberated compared to Toronto womyn.", "One MAN tried to save us from them, too bad we were too dumb to realize it", "BRCel123 said:One MAN tried to save us from them, too bad we were too dumb to realize it", "Emba said:God CHOse her people to rule the earth.The Jews seem to act like they are working for Satan rather than God.", "A Jewish daughter of a Billionaire had a baby with Jeremy Meeks.A Jewish Daughter of a Billionaire in England had a baby with a Black Rapper.So while the fathers are busy thinking about earning money, their daughters are whoring around. This is what happens when you put money before your daughters.A Jewish girl who helped The Black Panthers kill three security guards in an armed robbery is about to go free from jail. Trust me, she'll go free.If a Black gets murdered the Jewish women protest. Murder is wrong, I get that.But if a White gets murdered, they won't say anything.", "She probably got paid to do it seeing how cucked all the governments are.", "josh said:Homeless people are viewed as trash.ElliotRodgerGod said:i wonder waht would happen if I ran over a homeless foid in my BMWYou’d need to write a high quality manifesto first", "seija said:I swear why do I still live in this country?Jfl at you", "Women shouldn’t be allowed to own SUV’s.", "ElliotRodgerGod said:i wonder waht would happen if I ran over a homeless foid in my BMWHomeless women exist?", "josh said:Homeless women exist?I once saw a young (20-something) homeless woman piss her pants in front of a McDonald's. She looked sad about it... I thought it was hot. Lol.She looked like some kind of junkie.", "Emba said:I once saw a young (20-something) homeless woman piss her pants in front of a McDonald's. She looked sad about it... I thought it was hot. Lol.She looked like some kind of junkie.She must've been mentally ill, if you're a woman you should just get a betabux if you're homeless.", "Mojosh said:She must've been mentally ill, if you're a woman you should just get a betabux if you're homeless.Most do.", "FrustratedWhiteMale said:If a Black gets murdered the Jewish women protest. Murder is wrong, I get that.But if a White gets murdered, they won't say anything.The Jewish woman is considered highER of God in Toronto.If any sub8 male is accused of offending a Jewish woman, his life has ended, figuratively.Adolf HitlER warned us of the Jewish imposition of God-like status.", "Weston404 said:If any sub8 male is accused of offending a Jewish woman, his life has ended, figuratively.Well my life is already ended. The Jewish Women already hate me.I had very bad experiences with them (The young ones)I see them marching at immigration rallies here in New York.I noticed it's mostly the Jewish Women promoting this filth, not the men.Jewish Women will defend anybody, who is not White.What about that Jewish Woman, Lori Berenson, an MIT student, went to Peru, to support the terrorists and overthrow The Government of Peru.What about that Jewish Woman who helped Black Panthers kill there security gods in the Brinks robbery back in 1981.", "Weston404 said:It's because she's a fucking Jewess, and Jewish people have God-like status in Canada and other ZOG CUNTries.No it's because she's an attractive foid, men, especially homeless men don't matter to anyone. When a crazy bitch tries to stab her bf to death she gets a goFundMe page and maybe 2 years in prison", "It's because she's a fucking Jewess, and Jewish people have God-like status in Canada and other ZOG CUNTries.Oy vey", "Femoids can do anything and get away with it in 2019. This female cop got acquitted after murdering this poor oldcel.", "Schizoidcel said:Femoids can do anything and get away with it in 2019. This female cop got acquitted after murdering this poor oldcel.Poor guy got caught being a sub8 in public by a feminist", "Unhappy-Man said:Poor guy got caught being a sub8 in public by a feminist", "Schizoidcel said:Femoids can do anything and get away with it in 2019. This female cop got acquitted after murdering this poor oldcel.She probably got a promotion.edit: she was acquitted of murderVideo shows police officer Lisa Mearkle shoot David Kassick dead | Da…archived 15 Mar 2017 14:33:28 UTCarchive.fo", "MSCW said:She probably got a promotion.She was congratulated by femicunts and is now getting gang banged by her chad harem.Fuck those thin blue line cop worshiping faggots in the jury who thought she was defending herself from a 60 year old man trying to run away from her.", "Robtical said:Fuck those thin blue line cop worshiping faggots in the jury who thought she was defending herself from a 60 year old man trying to run away from her.It's annoying that you even need to give these cop faggots your time. Like fuck off and mind your own business. Get a real job.", "BodyFat10orRope said:It's annoying that you even need to give these cop faggots your time. Like fuck off and mind your own business. Get a real job.They stop you is when you make an illegal turn or forget to signal, then they try to turn it into something way bigger. Fuck those thieving faggots. Hopefully they'll be gotten rid of like a piece of shit needing to be flushed after sitting in the toilet for decades.", "You have to remember, her kind, sUfFeRed 6 GoRliOn died", "toronto is a hell for men", "Incline said:Skin her alive.I would acid face her", "FrustratedWhiteMale said:Well my life is already ended. The Jewish Women already hate me.I had very bad experiences with them (The young ones)I see them marching at immigration rallies here in New York.I noticed it's mostly the Jewish Women promoting this filth, not the men.Jewish Women will defend anybody, who is not White.What about that Jewish Woman, Lori Berenson, an MIT student, went to Peru, to support the terrorists and overthrow The Government of Peru.What about that Jewish Woman who helped Black Panthers kill there security gods in the Brinks robbery back in 1981.Don't despair for the Jewess who plays God will meet a reincarnation of Adolf HitlER to put her in her place; HELL.Jew York is also a place which worships the God-like status of the Jewish roast beef curtains.", "Toronto cells, do you know what kind of light materials can safely contain battery acid for transport? I'll look it up for you.", "Free Alek Minassian tbh. There’s so many white knighting cucks in Toronto", "Pigman said:Free Alek Minassian tbh. There’s so many white knighting cucks in TorontoHis trial will be more secret than a Jewish synagogue planning to fleece a country in the Wiemar days.", "Weston404 said:Justina Turdeaufucking KEK ", "Sans said:Alek Minassian got worldwide criticism, this cunt got praised. They did the exact same thing.It's over for equality", "Weston404 said:It's because she's a fucking Jewess, and Jewish people have God-like status in Canada and other ZOG CUNTries." ]
Its OverAnyone let themselves go after finding out how over it really was?
[ "I used to work out nearly every day, and was a pretty fit guy. I had room to grow, but everyone noticed my imporvements. Guys gave me compliments, and I had finally gotten stuff like a six pack. Girls also acknowledged my body, but they didn't care. They had so much vehement hatred towards me. After finding out that a girl I had liked since middle school was ghosting me for 10 months and then told her sorority I was stalking her (I sent her one text in that six month period, for reference), I fell into a depression that lasted so long.That was a year ago. I was 5'9ish, 150 pounds, and in good shape. I'm now 5'10 175 pounds, and while I can still look decent, I'm nowhere near my peak, and people have noticed. I had to convince them I was bulking (cope, I was really just drowning out my misery with fast food bignes with my roommate and barely working out).\\Every time I try to work out, I think about pointless it is to try and improve myself, only to be viewed as less than dirt by women. I don't know what to do or how to get back into it. I'm going back to the gym again today and hope to get a good workout but I just hope I can maintain consistency.", "Yeah I stopped gymcelling cuz of that and I became fatter. I also saw my GPA tank spring semester", "I started working out around half a year ago and while I did lose weight and gain some muscle, I'm losing motivation. I've never been one to binge-eat and I don't even like high-calorie food that much but I do notice that I'm gaining a bit of weight on the belly area and I've been skipping workouts a bit more. It was nice to look in to the mirror and see a better version of my past self but it's useless if you can't use your improvement to get a gf. Even if I received the body of a god, it would still not cure my social anxiety or manletdom.", "this is the same reason why i stopped gymcoping", "angrycurrycel said:Yeah I stopped gymcelling cuz of that and I became fatter.", "When I started gymcelling, I was redpilled and thought that percieved fighting success was linked to SMV. When I became blackpilled and realized that it doesn't mean shit, I still continued gymcelling so I can strengthmog others.", "Yeah, shower a few times a year (though I do wipe my bits and pieces often enough), my teeth are rotten through my head from years of not brushing, can go 6 weeks+ without a clothes change, ain't had a haircut or a shave for 2+ years and fingernails are long and thick, same as toenails, don't trim them let them break off. Alcohol problem is so bad I have irreversible chronic pancreatitus and my liver is fucked.Basically this is looksmatch, except I'm maybe 5-8 years younger. I ain't hardly bullshitting.", "outherebrothers said:Yeah, shower a few times a year (though I do wipe my bits and pieces often enough), my teeth are rotten through my head from years of not brushing, can go 6 weeks+ without a clothes change, ain't had a haircut or a shave for 2+ years and fingernails are long and thick, same as toenails, don't trim them let them break off. Alcohol problem is so bad I have irreversible chronic pancreatitus and my liver is fucked.Basically this is looksmatch, except I'm maybe 5-8 years younger. I ain't hardly bullshitting. 122208 122209 122210", "Tbh I realised it was over when I was 17. That's when my life started to go downhill, especially my grades. If I had even been average looking, I'd be at a top uni rn. But oh well, nobody cares.", "outherebrothers said:Yeah, shower a few times a year (though I do wipe my bits and pieces often enough), my teeth are rotten through my head from years of not brushing, can go 6 weeks+ without a clothes change, ain't had a haircut or a shave for 2+ years and fingernails are long and thick, same as toenails, don't trim them let them break off. Alcohol problem is so bad I have irreversible chronic pancreatitus and my liver is fucked.Basically this is looksmatch, except I'm maybe 5-8 years younger. I ain't hardly bullshitting. 122208 122209 122210You are the most hardcore LDAR’er on this forum.", "yes man. Also I wish you'd quit hitting pepe like that", "I stopped hitting the gym as well due to depression and hopelessness of never ascending and for that I put on even more weight. All I do these days is LDAR.", "Absolutely. I was never ripped, but I was a bit buff. Now I wonder if I'm gonna go for a quarter pounder with cheese or the BLT after work", "Yeah man, motivation is a bitch when you realize nothing you do will make a difference.", "I need motivation but sometimes its hard to find.", "angrycurrycel said:Yeah I stopped gymcelling cuz of that and I became fatter. I also saw my GPA tank spring semesterThe fact that you're still in college means that you're still coping.", "I buzzed my head, other than that I still look pretty much the same, maybe less frequent shaving", "Blackpill Rage said:The fact that you're still in college means that you're still coping.Parents won’t let me drop out", "Its over for many gymcel gym membership subscriptions, man.", "yuuuupp, i was fat and overweight up until 21, I had a big belly and face fat. I looksmaxed and leanmaxed, got down to like 10% bodyfat with pecs and abs, I went from 195/200lbs, (5'7) down to 145/150lbs by age 23. thinking that would be the ticket to humanity. Nope, my subhuman facial genetics fucked me over, I've blown back up to about 185lbs now at 30.I just don't see the point in even trying. It's so fucking over. If I couldn't get girls thin and with muscle then what';s even the point. At least i can cry an eat chocolate cake in comfort.", "I haven't worked out in like a week or 2 hopefully I'll get back into the habit", "Ugh. Fuck. Yeah, it's getting really hard to keep gymcelling. Honestly, it's not bad when it's just me at 2am, but then the other super-early normies flood in, and there's always a roastie in tight spandex with an ass bending over in my face to the point I want to stick a dumbbell up her cunt and tell her lunge around the room now, bitch!", "I stopped all looksmaxxing this year BC there's no point, I'm starting to get more and more of my moms shit genes showing up and at this point I just want to not be in pain.", "I've gained 80 pounds in 5 months. Before that I just lost all my excess weight but then I realized why bother, I'm not going to get anything out of thinmaxxing but I want to eat pizza every night.", "Yep. Was a gymcel from mid highschool up until about four months ago when I finally fully gave it up. The blackpill killed all desire to excise. Only reason I continued to do it for another year after being blackpilled is out of sheer habitual Shit and trying to bluepill myself", "Deleted member 301 said:Yeah, shower a few times a year (though I do wipe my bits and pieces often enough), my teeth are rotten through my head from years of not brushing, can go 6 weeks+ without a clothes change, ain't had a haircut or a shave for 2+ years and fingernails are long and thick, same as toenails, don't trim them let them break off. Alcohol problem is so bad I have irreversible chronic pancreatitus and my liver is fucked.Basically this is looksmatch, except I'm maybe 5-8 years younger. I ain't hardly bullshitting. 122208 122209 122210Holy shit. ", "I’ve rotted my teeth" ]
Its OverNobody understands the art behind my posts!!!
[ "Its over everybody rejects me even here.I feel like an outsider tbh", "I think this is a high IQ quality post about the blackpill.I like all the credible sources you linked and how you structured your text its really easy on the eyes.more people here should take you as a example.", "Are you actually getting rejected or are you just looking for rejection boyo. We all get ignored for various reasons on these forums.", "IlIlllllIlIl said:Are you actually getting rejected or are you just looking for rejection boyo. We all get ignored for various reasons on these forums.Cope or RopeHentai-Connoisseur said:I think this is a high IQ quality post about the blackpill.I like all the credible sources you linked and how you structured your text its really easy on the eyes.more people here should take you as a example.loled thx bro", "It’s okay, I belong nowhere.", "HighTGymcel said:Cope or Ropeloled thx bro", "IlIlllllIlIl said:mogs me", "FukFeminism said:It’s okay, I belong nowhere......." ]
ExperimentThoughts on SEA?
[ "Is it just one big meme or is true that better life awaits there for incels? I am tired of living in the west. I don't feel alive here. It's very soul-crushing. I can't take it anymore. But I had so many people telling me that SEA is just one big meme I don't know what to believe anymore. I would do my own research and I will but I don't have time atm so I ask you.", "I think it works for anyone that originates from a rich, western country with money and education. If you are white and average you can probably get away with just existing thanks to centuries of European colonialism.", "It is just a meme bro. It only works for Chad like everywhere else.", "I read about a guy who mogs the guy in the youtube videos to hell and back and he never had even close to as much success at that guy.Even ItsOver never got laid that easily and with girls that hot. I used his best pics on tinder on a fake account and couldn't get any hot 18 year old matches.I call BS on all of those youtube videos from the past few days. I mean every single aspect of them, all 100% bullshit.", "PowerLevelCel said:It is just a meme bro", "Incline said:I am tired of living in the west", "I’m gonna be attempting SEAmaxx soon. If anything it can’t be worse than what I’m already experiencing.", "Just another form of betabuxx", "Only Chad can someone by SEAMaxxing.", "I think the only decent parts of Asia are Japan, SK and some areas of China. Thai and Filipino women look pretty ugly and trashy in my opinion. You're fucking the descendants of rice farmers! imagine having a child with someone like that. Anyway, if it's something you gotta do then do it, but I don't think it even counts as ascension. Ascension is building a stable and solid relationship with a woman of your own race and country and not fucking random gooks in some shithole country. This is my opinion though, others will probably disagree.", "Jbw is fully true in Philippines. In Thailand you should be atleast a 4 imo", "yes, it works. given that you are a 6 foot young white male at least 4/10.", "Nah theres sharks and shit in the sea", "No one wants mutants of any color.", "wizardcel said:I think the only decent parts of Asia are Japan, SK and some areas of China. Thai and Filipino women look pretty ugly and trashy in my opinion. You're fucking the descendants of rice farmers! imagine having a child with someone like that. Anyway, if it's something you gotta do then do it, but I don't think it even counts as ascension. Ascension is building a stable and solid relationship with a woman of your own race and country and not fucking random gooks in some shithole country. This is my opinion though, others will probably disagree.I agree with you. I am not looking at it as ascension never would but It's still better than the life in the west.", "i haven’t gone and never will go most likely. most people telling u to go are probably in the same position as me aka they have no idea if it will work and are just guessing. if i had to guess i would say it won’t work.", "Would try, if no anxieties and nontraveller upbringing. Dont know how to move in human world dont know blet", "it works if you're taller and less ethnic (white or lightskin whitepassing ethnic) than the locals there. so its legit if you're at least 5'5, 4/10 and white.", "PowerLevelCel said:It is just a meme bro. It only works for Chad like everywhere else.it works for normies too ", "No.", "It can be true for normie or upper normie whitesNot 100% tho.", "It works because people like this report so.", "If there is a gold mine that everyone knows about, do you think that there's gold left?Maybe SEAmaxxing works in some cases but I wouldn't gamble on it.", "Ofcourse i doesn't, sure if you;re white you have higher chances of getting laid in SEA than if uou're an ethnic. But if you're an incel it won't mattter much anyway.", "TheGambler2 said:It works because people like this report so. 122418This are high tier normies I am talking about real incels not this people obviously it will work for them they can probably fuck foids in western countries too if they were low inhib.", "Incline said:This are high tier normies I am talking about real incels not this people obviously it will work for them they can probably fuck foids in western countries too if they were low inhib.That's what I meant.These are the people that report JBW theory when they aren't incels.For incels it won't get any better there except foids might fake interest in you to get something (green card,or some gifts).Basically betabuxxing a noodlewhore.You an ask @AsiaCel since he lives there", "Sign up to a Filipino dating site and test it yourself", "I think it depends, it might work for some and might not work for others.F.e. Im 5 foot 7, Im nearly 10cm under the average height for men of the country I live in.In japan I would be around average, maybe with lifts and shoes I can fraud a few centimeters, that would make me above average. Also Im white, nothing special where I live but in a homogen country as japan, it is. You see, there might be a big difference in how attractive you are perceived depending on where you live.", "TheGambler2 said:Just another form of betabuxx", "Hentai-Connoisseur said:I think it depends, it might work for some and might not work for others.F.e. Im 5 foot 7, Im nearly 10cm under the average height for men of the country I live in.In japan I would be around average, maybe with lifts and shoes I can fraud a few centimeters, that would make me above average. Also Im white, nothing special where I live but in a homogen country as japan, it is. You see, there might be a big difference in how attractive you are perceived depending on where you live.People say Japan is the worst of Asian countries,even worse than the west", "SEasia has been ruined from too many old white guys going over there, it's also virtually impossible to get a job there unless you happen to be transferred there from an existing multinational company.africa is the new uncharted frontier for incel ascension hopes.", "TheGambler2 said:People say Japan is the worst of Asian countries,even worse than the westHentai-Connoisseur said:I think it depends, it might work for some and might not work for others.F.e. Im 5 foot 7, Im nearly 10cm under the average height for men of the country I live in.In japan I would be around average, maybe with lifts and shoes I can fraud a few centimeters, that would make me above average. Also Im white, nothing special where I live but in a homogen country as japan, it is. You see, there might be a big difference in how attractive you are perceived depending on where you live.Which one of this is true xD Hey Hentai-Connoisseur have u ever been to SEA", "Incline said:Which one of this is true xD Hey Hentai-Connoisseur have u ever been to SEAno I dont think I was.Also to say that japan is the worst would be a bit much I think, theres is still china and northkorea fe afterall", "jfl at people voting no, works for everyone hello shitskin copers. people who vote its a meme, are you retarded? the average male filipino hieght is 5 foot 3, and they have shit skin, and hardcore incel faces. youre telling me, some mostly pure white, ten inches above the average height, with prominent white facial features, in places that WORSHIP northern European blood, does not have a massive massive advantage? JFL at the level of delutional coping some of you fuck tards have as an excuse to continue LDARing jerking your meat all day instead of fucking saving up to get a ticket out of this shit hole. kill yourselves", "johnnyb said:yes, it works. given that you are a 6 foot young white male at least 4/10.@Insomniac", "Its over I cant even make a trip to SEA in 3 years here its brutally over for me I cant organize the trip I am oldcel now its too late now its over I must do it but its so over I cant anymore I cant do no more boyosits over its too brutalI dont want to be here anymore its over", "If you have money you are not a incel, SEA or not" ]
SeriousHow incel is TheReportOfTheWeek?
[ "When I think of incel reviewbruh definitely comes to mind, what would you guys rate him?", "Incel/10", "bug eyed chincelover/10", "JBW bro. ", "EcuntR said:When I think of incel reviewbruh definitely comes to mind, what would you guys rate him? 122614Vampirecel.He´s a cool dude.Best junk food reviewer on YTB.", "pretty incel tbh but at least he statusmaxxed", "I'd watch him review a hooker's vagina.", "definite truecel but he still has status and is rich so he can cope with thatI like him personally tbh", "He is incel but he is statusmaxxed", "BigGhey said:definite truecelbut he still has status and is rich so he can cope with thatI like him personally tbhHe's def a cool guy. Don't see how anyone can hate him for his personality. Would be his friend irl (srs)", "IlIlllllIlIl said:He's def a cool guy. Don't see how anyone can hate him for his personality. Would be his friend irl (srs)same tbhhe seems like a wise guy who could teach us a lot about professionalism", "IlIlllllIlIl said:He's def a cool guy. Don't see how anyone can hate him for his personality. Would be his friend irl (srs)Same here, he seems to be really sweet. I think he has a girlfriend though, didn't she appear in his cola taste test?", "DoctorBlythe said:Same here, he seems to be really sweet.I think he has a girlfriend though, didn't she appear in his cola taste test?No fuckin way, can you find that video? That would be truly mindblowingis this the video?", "DoctorBlythe said:Same here, he seems to be really sweet.I think he has a girlfriend though, didn't she appear in his cola taste test?If he does then good on him (lifefuel)", "he is incel as fuck, everyone doing weird shit online is incel as fuck or slumming it with ugly old womenmost of the time when you try to figure out how a male figure is doing, which is something i'm increasingly curious about, you find out it's either a total mystery or a disaster", "GeekCel", "Incline said:He is incel but he is statusmaxxed", "is a 4/10", "NoMoreSlaving said:No fuckin way, can you find that video? That would be truly mindblowingis this the video?That's the one, yeah. He also alluded to this in his radio shows and podcasts, but it would be harded to find now since he puts out a lot of content. I don't think it's surprising, he has a high trust pleasant face and a calm demeanor. Also, he obviously makes a lot of money.", "I would rate him to be a 3.5/10", "DoctorBlythe said:That's the one, yeah. He also alluded to this in his radio shows and podcasts, but it would be harded to find now since he puts out a lot of content. I don't think it's surprising, he has a high trust pleasant face and a calm demeanor. Also, he obviously makes a lot of money.But that's literally a death sentence though???", "Joelossus said:I would rate him to be a 3.5/10Mogs me", "Incline said:Mogs meWhich of his facial features are better than yours?", "NoMoreSlaving said:But that's literally a death sentence though???Some women dig the less masculine look, and I'm sure his money and fame helps him tremendously.", "Just get 1.5 million subscribers bro", "I like his reviews but its over for him", "Im pretty sure i saw a video where he admitted he as always alone and a incel.", "quite", "TheGambler2 said:Incel/10", "fucking insane stories of cucking and despondence and despair would pour out if you grabbed any internet figure and shook them hard enoughthink about eggy's story of working 5 jobs to pay a woman's college loans", "EcuntR said:When I think of incel reviewbruh definitely comes to mind, what would you guys rate him? 122614I love this man though you gotta respect him though", "he can statusmaxxxpretty sure he mogs me though", "Joelossus said:Which of his facial features are better than yours?Hair", "Height?Just checked, he's 6'4 and white, volcel.", "male internet figures unless they're pewdiepie or already married to some ugly old hag like h3h3, are all copers desperately trying to get a big break and make a few millions, so they can get sniped for betabux by some opportunistic older chick like Joakim Sandbergdiamond play button = official 'you may betabux a 38 year old' badge", "speedtypingincel said:Height?Just checked, he's 6'4 and white, volcel.That height is desirable but he has a really low tier face and big eyesturbocuckcel_7000 said:male internet figures unless they're pewdiepie or already married to some ugly old hag like h3h3, are all copers desperately trying to get a big break and make a few millions, so they can get sniped for betabux by some opportunistic older chick like Joakim Sandbergdiamond play button = official 'you may betabux a 38 year old' badgeh3h3 wife is really ugly, but they are both old", "@EcuntR The good old heighpill denying. Once again.", "He could easily ascend in SEA.In a first world country... he would struggle.", "EcuntR said:That height is desirable but he has a really low tier face and big eyesh3h3 wife is really ugly, but they are both oldoh ok so it's the typical 2019 couple where the woman's health practices and smoking makes her look 15 years older, no big surprise there", "speedtypingincel said:@EcuntR The good old heighpill denying. Once again.I think we can both agree that in terms of face he is an ogre. But yeah i can see the argument that if he goes to an asian country he can slay", "Recessed chin and bug eyes. It never began for him.", "PowerLevelCel said:Recessed chin and bug eyes. It never began for him.that's barely even scratching the surface", "He's invisible to women. The girl everyone is talking about is his mother. She appeared in some of his video, but I don't think she's ever shown her face.", "anon said:He's invisible to women. The girl everyone is talking about is his mother. She appeared in some of his video, but I don't think she's ever shown her face.I think reviewbruh is asexual and volcel.He seems esquizoid as fuck.", "Agatha_Chan said:I think reviewbruh is asexual and volcel.He seems esquizoid as fuck.Nice necro nigger", "littlemanhikicel said:is a 4/10" ]
/r/ForeverAlone is the most pathetic incel sub there is
[ "These guys post alongside foids who have boyfriends but complain about not being able to lock down Chad. I didn't know it was possible for men to be so bluepilled despite being rejected and treated like shit their entire lives. They ban anything even slightly misogynistic. They are also complete cucks.", "Can’t understand how these men can’t see the irony.", "Its fucking reddit, the entire website is a massive hugbox filled with LARPers.", "You are foreveralone (retro incel) if you have no dating options whatsoever.They need to define it and stand hy definition. No I can't get the one I want cuck bullshit.Said definition would purge literally all women.", "incel subLMAO, there's actual foids on there. That's an overstatement.", "SuperPerfectCel said:Said definition would purge literally all women.They won't change it because they are cucks", "they deserve everything they endure because they are cucks about it JFL at accepting those conditions.. a place for alone people allows foids with social lives and circles", "why do you stay on reddit? I understand going to specialized subs like AsianWomenHate or Happas or Braincels or something related to hobbies like JDorama. But why the fuck are you on a proven cucked subreddit?", "seija said:Its fucking reddit, the entire website is a massive hugbox filled with LARPers.I concur.IronMike said:why do you stay on reddit? I understand going to specialized subs like AsianWomenHate or Happas or Braincels or something related to hobbies like JDorama. But why the fuck are you on a proven cucked subreddit?I agree. I only go for comedy gold or things to back up our assertions since their virtue signalling masks always slips.", "All of Reddit is cucked, including r/braincels. I don't understand why any incel would choose Reddit to do their posting on. They get cucked beyond belief and are forced to argue with a gag in their mouth and both hands tied behind their backs. Meanwhile, their enemies on subreddits like cucktears are allowed to do whatever they want, including openly call for rape, torture, and genocide of male virgins, with no consequences whatsoever. Like seriously, can't one of Trump's FBI agents trace and round up those cucktears members who are making violent posts and chuck them into a cell to be buttraped by Tyrone?", "You spelt r/inceltears wrong", "IronMike said:why do you stay on reddit? I understand going to specialized subs like AsianWomenHate or Happas or Braincels or something related to hobbies like JDorama. But why the fuck are you on a proven cucked subreddit?I lurked on FA for a bit bit because I'm banned from /r/Braincels and I was banned here for a day.", "Banned me for misogyny", "GreaseCel said:Can’t understand how these men can’t see the irony.bluepilled. they thing its better having a whore gf then have no gf. ", "AsiaCel said:You spelt r/inceltears wrongI forgot about them, ya they are a little worse.", "To be fair I wouldn't have found out about r/incels if it wasn't for that place.", "They permabanned me for kindly suggesting them to ban all females jfl", "JFL at unironically browsing reddit.", "Yeah i got banned for making a rant post about how females can’t be incel", "They permabanned me after suggesting foids cant be ForeverAlone.", "NotQuiteChadLite said: 122673", "Unfortunately reddit has some great subs like /r/piracy and a bunch of other useful subs, so it sucks that we have to go there still.", "Between takei the 4'11 female on wheels and the other fat pig going to Africa to bag Tyrones, I don't know what the few men there think.", "mental_out said:There's a reason why all the incels on there left. They literally let chads in to come and brag to incels, it was fucking terrible.I imagine it's much worse these days after all the truecels left. Guy who runs it is a legit cuckold who went out of his way to smother all the upstart incel communities after people got sick of his shit.Napoleon de Geso said:Banned me for misogyny", "I think you have them beat as most pathetic ", ">redditlol" ]
Blackpill[Hard To Swallow Edition] More Than Zero Sexual Partners Equals A Whore (Any Other Value Is Arbitrary)
[ "I often see many users making these illogical arbitrary claims about which number of sexual partners makes a woman a whore, and all the pointless exceptions they have that make a woman eligible for marriage.Virgin is the only choice, saying any other number is just arbitrary, any guy saying 1 to 3 as that's reasonable doesn't seem to get that the guy saying 3 to 10 could also argue that's reasonable, and you'd both be arguing based on subjective arbitrary personal BS, the only objective standard, is an absolute standard, an absolute value, and that value is ZERO.#NoHymenNoDiamondAny other value is arbitrary and a matter of personal opinion, if you would give a woman with 1 partner a pass then you have no logical standing to tell a man not to give a woman with 100+ partners a pass, you can say - well one isn't much and he can say well 100 isn't much for this day and age.Let me show you with examples how its arbitrary:Scenario 1Male: VirginWoman: 1 Previous Sexual PartnerScenario 2Male: VirginWoman: 10 Previous Sexual PartnersScenario 3Male: 60 Previous Sexual PartnersWoman: 20 Previous Sexual PartnersAre you seeing how pointless it is to argue between which number is too high, the only logical number is ZERO, any number other than that is too high, arguing about anything else is arbitrary and based on personal opinions and experiences.The guy in Scenario 3 with 60 sexual partners won't mind that his wife had 20, because for him that's normal, in fact he likely expected she'd have as much as him or more, and he still would not mind because he had his fill, but the virgin male in Scenario 2 would say that he's a cuck for marrying a woman because its arbitrarily double the magic maximum number he has set in his head, and what he doesn't get is the virgin male of Scenario 1 would consider him a cuck for marrying a woman with double digits in her partner count.THEY ARE ALL CUCKEDLets do another scenarioScenario 4Man: VirginWoman: 20 Previous Sexual PartnersThis is basically the man of Scenario 3 as a virgin, but him being a virgin makes no difference because its about HER body count, Scenario 4 guy is no more cucked than Scenario 3 guy or any of them, because at the end of the day all of them have used women.Now take for instance these other two menScenario 5Man: 50 Previous Sexual PartnersWoman: VirginScenario 6Man: VirginWoman: VirginThe men of Scenario 5 and 6 both have quality wives, the matter at hand is the quality of the woman you are marrying, your body count is of no relevance to her body count, the value of a woman is her chastity and reproductive capabilities, so a low body count ensures that those qualities are still of high value. Those qualities do not apply to men, men are valued for their labor and material resourcesAnybody trying to argue that any woman's body count is too high based on any value other than ZERO, is making BS arbitrary arguments, if you'll marry a woman with 1 previous partner you can marry a woman with 100 previous partners, if you'd fuck a woman with 1 previous sexual partner you can fuck a woman with 100 previous partners, either way its a used hole.In fact lets propose some further scenarios as to why I say thisScenario 7Man: VirginWoman: 100 Previous Sexual Partners (all were around 4ft tall, with 4 inch penises and had below average income)Scenario 8Man: VirginWoman: 1 Previous Sexual Partner (10/10, 7ft tall, 10 inch dick having giga chad rich business man)Which woman would you feel safer marrying, which woman would be more likely to cheat, the woman who has had more partners, or the woman who has fucked a top %5 man, its all arbitrary once you include other factors, anything more than one is a huge possibilty of failure, that woman who many of you would prize for having just one partner could have been fucking a guy who extremely outclasses you in everything, so him being her only guy makes no difference", "Being a whore is directly link to the foids will to exploit you for ressources. If anything we would have to argue about the financial scope. This virgin or not thing is coping aside the question of alphawidowing.In my book it's reasonable to test out different partners.", "Stats say otherwise:(Not promoting marriage btw, but a low body count vs high bodycount is not some made up bs, its based in reality)", "I agree with every word you just posted. fuck whores", "The white dress used to represent virginity.I'm not planning on marrying anyways, if the government is involved you're gonna get cucked even if the marriage lasts until you die, there's no way around it.", "Damn surprised a blkpillpres post has so little replies", "I would say 1 partner or max 2 is okay if a woman made a stupid decision while young. However, 0 is certainly ideal.For example, a 26 year old woman who has had 1 partner 3 years ago would not be considered a whore in my opinion.", "TigerFestival said:Stats say otherwise: 601856(Not promoting marriage btw, but a low body count vs high bodycount is not some made up bs, its based in reality)This is what I would like to see more around here.Any normies watching don't care about what we have to say but these stats by official sources, must get them thinking at least a little bit. ", "TigerFestival said:Stats say otherwise: 601856(Not promoting marriage btw, but a low body count vs high bodycount is not some made up bs, its based in reality)I've seen those stats, and that chart ironically proves my point. Look at the huge difference between ONE previous sex partner and ZERO previous sex partners lol.You guys don't take into account quality, you only look at quantity. In these times with Tinder, social media, etc, women have access to top tier males. So that one guy she may have fucked was probably a top 5% man. The more partners a woman has, the morely like it is she would have been alpha-widowed and that's the real reason why a high body count is bad. It's because no average man can compete with the standards created by the average woman's sexual history.Women date and fuck up when it comes to genetics, but they marry up when it comes to wealth, so the guys they end up marrying are more likely than not their last choice.", "This isn't to mention that you have to take all self reported body counts from women with a grain of salt. Women will say what you want to hear. There's really no good way to know if a women has slept with 1 partner or with 1000, but there is a way to know if she has slept with at least 1.TigerFestival said:Stats say otherwise: 601856(Not promoting marriage btw, but a low body count vs high bodycount is not some made up bs, its based in reality)I think this just means that women that recognize that their purity has value lie about their bodycounts. Such women are probably from more conservative minded cultures that are less likely to divorce no matter what. Anything over 0 you should assume its 100.", "5'4Cel said:I think this just means that women that recognize that their purity has value lie about their bodycounts. Such women are probably from more conservative minded cultures that are less likely to divorce no matter what. Anything over 0 you should assume its 100.All women recognize purity matters. You are acting as if women are not aware of this. What are you, 12?You're gonna tell me tiojust assume all non virgins have giga high triple digit bodycounts?The only benefit of assuming such would be to avoid marrying a non virgin, because your mind may tell you its not bad to marry a low body count woman, so its a protective lie i suppose. but I dont need to tell lies to prevent bad decisions, I already dont want marriage.", "To add onto this, I actually think it's cucked when normies say dude shes a catch she has a low body count shes only had a couple relationships before. They are literally defending their girl having sex with other men which is cucked.", "Great thread @30klhlvwizard @Murder Mario", "Brootal truth.." ]
SuicideFuelI got caught taking a pic of a girls ass
[ "I was walking behind a girl on the street at sunset and pulled out my phone to take a pic of her 10/10 goddess tier ass in tight jeans. I took the pic, I thought it was still light enough outside that the flash wouldn't go off, JFL the flash went off AND it made the noise it makes when you take a picture, and she turned around and didn't even say anything and just crossed the road. JFL", "Oh, the Patriarchy!!! ", "you’re lucky not to be behind bars with Tyrone tbh", "bill00 said:I was walking behind a girl on the street at sunset and pulled out my phone to take a pic of her 10/10 goddess tier ass in tight jeans. I took the pic, I thought it was still light enough outside that the flash wouldn't go off, JFL the flash went off AND it made the noise it makes when you take a picture, and she turned around and didn't even say anything and just crossed the road. JFL\\", "Fucking amatuers", "StaroRavager said:Fucking amatuersI want to get a hidden camera or some shit but idk where to start", "bill00 said:I want to get a hidden camera or some shit but idk where to startHidden camera? I just used my phone during my foid photography phase", "You're a dumbass, OP. At least learn how to turn flash off. Next time take a page out of my Japanese friend's book and surreptitiously put a GoPro on a briefcase.", "BasedWhores complain about it but they purposely wear revealing clothing.Same as telling everyone you don't lock yoir car", "not turning flash and sound off as the first thing after getting a phone", "Low inhib mogs me. But that’s what they get for dressing like whores", "real truecel said:not turning flash and sound off as the first thing after getting a phoneget the CreepShot 9000 that has those as factory settings", "Was it worth it?", "Pm me the picture bro.", "They ask for it ... they dress like total whores, what do they expect ?", "post it", "bill00 said:I was walking behind a girl on the street at sunset and pulled out my phone to take a pic of her 10/10 goddess tier ass in tight jeans. I took the pic, I thought it was still light enough outside that the flash wouldn't go off, JFL the flash went off AND it made the noise it makes when you take a picture, and she turned around and didn't even say anything and just crossed the road. JFLThe Devil´s luck muh boy.", "Dionysus said:Was it worth it?where is the pic bro ", "post the pic", "They will give you capital punishment for that", "based and lowinhibpilled", "You're fucked boyo, also post pic.", "She's gonna tell the story and brag to all her slut friends Suifuel for me ", "truefaithneworder said:post the picThis is equivalent to rape you creepy inkwell", "Should've pretended you were taking a selfie or something", "LMAO this reminded me of that one time where I started masturbating as I was walking behind a girl in broad daylight when I was like 13", "First of all, the thread is useless without pics.", "NoMoreSlaving said:LMAO this reminded me of that one time where I started masturbating as I was walking behind a girl in broad daylight when I was like 13Did you get caught", "Reddit_is_for_cucks said:They will give you capital punishment for thatI can see that happening by 2030.", "TheGambler2 said:Did you get caughtNo, but I don't remember if she noticed or not. I was basiclly in my apartment looking out the window in summer and spanking it to random women walking by in the middle of the day. Then I saw that gigababe and basically ran downstairs from my apartment and started following her, while stroking my dick with my hand in pocket You do some weird shit when you're 13 and horny", "Should've just ran rape game at that point tbh", "Dropbox said:First of all, the thread is useless without pics.And you can always upload your pics to @Dropbox", "I was speaking with some people between exams I had to do, and I said look at this fucking faggot as a lady walked passed and she looked at me and started walking really quick and looking behind her, so I ended up looking like a rapist. Maybe she was a dyke idk..", "Wait post the pic you larpcel?No one can dox her with ass pic", "Guests: 115", "Why have you no posted it?", "Next step is to cum on the ass without being noticed.", "The Abyss said:Next step is to cum on the ass without being noticed.Telekinesis would come in handy here.", "Lololol what the fuck do they expect. It’s like waving heaps of money around in public and thinking you won’t get robbed", "truefaithneworder said:post the pic", "bill00 said:of her 10/10 goddess tier assShit comes out from there bro!", "Insomniac said:you’re lucky not to be behind bars with Tyrone tbh", "LMAO. I hope the pic came out well after all that.", "Based.", "Not as bad as when I got taking a picture of my oneitis's twin sister in the middle of class and got caught in front of everyone. The picture was blurry, and I just ended up deleting it when I went to the bathroom later that class. Came back, and she asked me if I had fun with the picture in the bathroom.That was probably the #1 most embarrassing moment in high school for me", "HarvesterOfInceldom said:Not as bad as when I got taking a picture of my oneitis's twin sister in the middle of class and got caught in front of everyone. The picture was blurry, and I just ended up deleting it when I went to the bathroom later that class. Came back, and she asked me if I had fun with the picture in the bathroom.That was probably the #1 most embarrassing moment in high school for meShould have responded - No, it was too blurry, and your sister is way cuter", "Post pic or larp", "no pic i say this is all BS", "Inappropriate tag. This is pretty funny.", "The Abyss said:Next step is to cum on the ass without being noticed.", "still got that pic?", "When are we gonna see this 10/10 ass? You can’t bring that shit up and not post it man", "What you did was based.In fact, she liked it.Today's girls are whores, whores that feast of your lust.", "I have a dash cam on my car. I've been using it to replay videos of hot girls I drove past.I need to get a higher resolution camera so I can zoom in on the more voluptuous asses.", "Idk why foids complain when they dress like slutsDont wanna get noticed, dont wear revealing clothingIts not that hard", "lol cucktears did not like thisView: ", "Insomniac said:you’re lucky not to be behind bars with Tyrone tbh", "NoMoreSlaving said:No, but I don't remember if she noticed or not. I was basiclly in my apartment looking out the window in summer and spanking it to random women walking by in the middle of the day. Then I saw that gigababe and basically ran downstairs from my apartment and started following her, while stroking my dick with my hand in pocket You do some weird shit when you're 13 and hornyLow inhib and based AF" ]
Experimentdo you find tall foids intimidating?
[ "whats the height at which you would consider a foid too imposing/intimidating?", "no lol", "My mother height mogs me so no", "185 is the cutoff. Too tall.", "Taller than me, and thats is 170. Maybe could deal with couple of centimeters, but 175 is too much", "I wouldn't say intimidating. I wouldn't mind a way taller gf.It's just after all that shit they write about short guys on the internet and swipe left if you are shorter than 180cm you know you are an asexual object to them.speedtypingincel said:185 is the cutoff. Too tall.Napoleon de Geso said:Taller than me, and thats is 170. Maybe could deal with couple of centimeters, but 175 is too muchVolcels pls", "Lol Im 5'7 so yes", "There's nothing worse than getting heightmoged by a foid", "zangano1 said:There's nothing worse than getting heightmoged by a foidAgreed. Tall foids shouldn't be allowed to exist, they are a genetic failure. Any woman taller than 5'6 is fucking disgusting. Being attracted to taller women is often a sign of being gay, as tall height is associated with masculinity. Any tall woman fills me with disgust and anger.", "No", "DoctorBlythe said:Agreed. Tall foids shouldn't be allowed to exist, they are a genetic failure. Any woman taller than 5'6 is fucking disgusting. Being attracted to taller women is often a sign of being gay, as tall height is associated with masculinity. Any tall woman fills me with disgust and anger.Low iq, that's the same mentality as women who say men under six feet are a genetic failure.", "No.", "Cuyen said:no lol", "No, because I have greater muscle density so I could still kill them with my hands. That's all that matters in intimidation really, if you can kill somebody in unarmed combat.", "real truecel said:Low iq, that's the same mentality as women who say men under six feet are a genetic failure.Spotted the faggot. Nothing worse than a tall foid.", "It's over for truecels when even tall volcels don't want tall girls and go for short ones. No girls left for manlets.", "Never noticed ever being heightmogged by a female tbh but I don't go outside anymore. Once a young Stacy (in heels) serving at a bar almost came to my nose and it felt quite strange, I almost felt like going on my tippy toes (autism). I feel uncomfortable no matter their height though.", "Yes I find tall foids intimidating, but I also want to have sex with them.", "No. I'm 6'4 and I can't remember ever seeing a girl as tall as me.", "there is no height that makes me intimidated by them.Foids are usually weak af why should I be afraid of them?And I hit the gym and get stronger and stronger, so physically I dont feel intimidated.But I hate it when people are bigger than me because it reminds me that Im a manlet.", "I'd prefer a tall foid.", "I wouldn't say so no", "Cuyen said:no lol", "I feel enraged that they are basically the female counterparts of male manlets yet have exceedingly higher smv than them on average.", "DoctorBlythe said:Agreed. Tall foids shouldn't be allowed to exist, they are a genetic failure. Any woman taller than 5'6 is fucking disgusting. Being attracted to taller women is often a sign of being gay, as tall height is associated with masculinity. Any tall woman fills me with disgust and anger.Exactly. A tall female should be the equivalent of a male manlet", "Intimidating is not the word I would use. I'd call them hypocritical, for whining that Chad discriminates against them because of their height, while they discriminate against short men.", "zangano1 said:Exactly. A tall female should be the equivalent of a male manletBut they are female CHADS.All models are tall. Women complain about being 165 and wear heels to be 180. Everyone wants to be tall.", "real truecel said:But they are female CHADS.All models are tall. Women complain about being 165 and wear heels to be 180. Everyone wants to be tall.Foid models are usually not that good. Only cucks want tall foids.", "I find them really attractive, especially really tall freaks that don't have that gigantism face going", "Cuyen said:no lol", "zangano1 said:There's nothing worse than getting heightmoged by a foidand then they see you as a child ", "real truecel said:DoctorBlythe said:Agreed. Tall foids shouldn't be allowed to exist, they are a genetic failure. Any woman taller than 5'6 is fucking disgusting. Being attracted to taller women is often a sign of being gay, as tall height is associated with masculinity. Any tall woman fills me with disgust and anger.Low iq, that's the same mentality as women who say men under six feet are a genetic failure.", "Not intimidating, but I'm not sexually attracted to them either.", "JFL, I am not intimidated by any foids.", "i'd say 5'7 is the perfect height for a foid. But anything over 5'10 is too tall for a foid and unattractive as being tall is a masculine trait.", "Tall + Skinny = ", "Not unless they’re like 7’0", "No, as a manlet, i'd like to fuck them even more. Not that i would ever get that chance lol.", "No. In fact, I'd love for a taller foid to wrap her legs around me and dominate me.", "If you're manlet a tall foid essential if you dont want your sons to end up as short as you.All manlets should be going for tall foids so they dont create more incels (unless your face is ugly too - then its over).", "I just want to fuck them", "DoctorBlythe said:Agreed. Tall foids shouldn't be allowed to exist, they are a genetic failure. Any woman taller than 5'6 is fucking disgusting. Being attracted to taller women is often a sign of being gay, as tall height is associated with masculinity. Any tall woman fills me with disgust and anger.lol what... they have a pussy.", "Only intimidating in a sense that they are female and could destroy my life at any moment due to a false accusation. I'm not intimidated by any female physical features or anything like that. I'm a manlet so the majority of women I meet are taller than me anyway. I would prefer a smaller petite girlfriend if I could ever get one but taller women seem like so much fun so either way I just want a girlfriend. Tall girls are especially fun to talk to because their breasts are usually at eye level for me. Another reason why tall women are sometimes more fun is when they wear dresses or skirts. Unless they get them tailored it is quite rare to have a good size for a tall woman thus when she sits down or starts to walk up stairs it is very common to see her panties and cameltoe.", "No brogod i wish that were me", "Pumkin said:Only intimidating in a sense that they are female and could destroy my life at any moment due to a false accusation.", "Yes sadly", "black_depresso said:whats the height at which you would consider a foid too imposing/intimidating?too imposing to talk to? never, but I don't approach women for dates", "I'd climb up that", "Cuyen said:no lol", "DoctorBlythe said:Being attracted to taller women is often a sign of being gayretard", "No but a foid heightmogging you is a billion times worse than a man heightmogging you", "No, tall women are hot and I wouldn't be insecure at all about her being taller.", "Most tall women look short to me.I find roid heads intimidating.", "VirginAutistManlet said:Yes I find tall foids intimidating, but I also want to have sex with them.", "i get height/framemogged by foids on a daily basis,and i can saywith absolute confidence,that in a self defense situation,i would PUNCH THE LIVING SHIT out of ANY biological w*man. so no i am not intimidated in any way shape or form of any femoid" ]
SeriousI got mogged by ladybugs
[ "A couple of days ago I went to work. On the way it happened. I saw two ladybugs flying around attached to each other. They just fucked in front of my eyes. I do not get only mogged in every kind of way by my own females, I get even life mogged by insects. Take the ladybug pill.", "wereqryan said:Just curious, why are you incel?Because he doesn't drive. Hes a Delusionalcel who thinks not driving is why hes an incel.", "a girl once pointed out that I had some flies fucking in my hair in 5th grade", "Take the insectpill", "VirginAutistManlet said:Because he doesn't drive. Hes a Delusionalcel who thinks not driving is why hes an incel.don't underestimate the driver license pill", "wereqryan said:Just curious, why are you incel?Because I get destroyed by everything.VirginAutistManlet said:Because he doesn't drive. Hes a Delusionalcel who thinks not driving is why hes an incel.False. I never have stated such thing. As I mentioned beforehand, it is just another attribute. it does not turn you into an incel, it is a trait.wereqryan said:Really?No.Sitokirment said:a girl once pointed out that I had some flies fucking in my hair in 5th gradeThe insect pill is strong.", "Just be an insect theory", "That was painfull to see from long ago, fukcing insects flying stuck together and fucking, but not me", "lmao gave me a chuckle", "VirginAutistManlet said:Because he doesn't drive. Hes a Delusionalcel who thinks not driving is why hes an incel.Nah the delusionalcel about driving license is @BrendioEEE who could lose weight and not be incel IMO.", "TheGambler2 said:Nah the delusionalcel about driving license is @BrendioEEE who could lose weight and not be incel IMO.I already lost over 100 pounds, and when I lose 200, i'll still be Incel because of where I live, being 5'5, and not having money. Also JFL at this fakecel cope of denying the Carpill.", "BrendioEEE said:Also JFL at this fakecel cope of denying the Carpill.Driving license is a criteria for women,but it isn't too important and if you are actual incel it won't change anything.But it is a good cope to be able to drive,ngl", "TheGambler2 said:Driving license is a criteria for women,but it isn't too important and if you are actual incel it won't change anything.But it is a good cope to be able to drive,nglHaving a drivers license or a car may not prevent you from being an Incel if you look like thisOr if you have a severe mental condition that impairs your ability to communicate or participate in human interaction, but the amount of Incels who fit in that category are probably less than 25% of Incels.", "BrendioEEE said:I already lost over 100 pounds, and when I lose 200, i'll still be Incel because of where I live, being 5'5, and not having money.Also JFL at this fakecel cope of denying the Carpill.Holy shit much did was your weight?", "Thats why i hate bugs ", "Darth Cialis said:Holy shit much did was your weight?At my worst, I was 330LB, and imagine that at 5'5, JFL. I would get exhausted from moving around on my bed. I'm much better now tho, still a bit overweight, but a lot of loose skin, nimble enough to bring my feet to my head (couldn't even touch my feet when I was super fat), do long bike rides outside daily (inb4 Mossad Assassins try and kill me during one of my rides now ), etc.", "BrendioEEE said:bike ride outside daily (inb4 Mossad Assassins try and kill me during one of my rides now), etc.We need a driver licence and a car.", "I wish I was a ladybug tbh", "LastGerman said:We need a driver licence and a car.Yes bro, I use a bike because I can't afford a car, it's over. Car Chad Volcels will deny this.", "BrendioEEE said:Car Chad Volcels will deny this.It is usually people who have already a driver licence and a ca ron top of that. So all those people would tell us the same blue pilled lies if they would have been successful with females.", "BrendioEEE said:At my worst, I was 330LB, and imagine that at 5'5, JFL. I would get exhausted from moving around on my bed. I'm much better now tho, still a bit overweight, but a lot of loose skin, nimble enough to bring my feet to my head (couldn't even touch my feet when I was super fat), do long bike rides outside daily (inb4 Mossad Assassins try and kill me during one of my rides now ), etc.Holy shit, you kinda risked your life being so fat I think. Perhaps you lost it too fast, Idk how you could have prevented the skin from going loose.", "Darth Cialis said:Idk how you could have prevented the skin from going loose.I don't know either, that wasn't even a thought in my mind. I was just like, I don't want to be fat anymore, I developed a massive fear of having a heart attack, (Still have it which is why I do Cardio Daily), and this shit needs to stop, so I started doing Cardio daily, ate less, etc. Sadly turns out loose skin is also just as detrimental to your looks as fat is, and sometimes can look almost exactly the same aswell, the only difference being you're technically physically healthier and more nimble and able, and the only way it can get fixed is with surgery which will still cause some pretty ugly fucking scars (costs tons of money), and people say you can't be Incel because you're poor, JFL, what a joke. I became fat underage, and once I became an adult and realized it was a problem it was over.", "BrendioEEE said:I don't know either, that wasn't even a thought in my mind. I was just like, I don't want to be fat anymore, I developed a massive fear of having a heart attack, (Still have it which is why I do Cardio Daily), and this shit needs to stop, so I started doing Cardio daily, ate less, etc. Sadly turns out loose skin is also just as detrimental to your looks as fat is, and sometimes can look almost exactly the same aswell, the only difference being you're technically physically healthier and more nimble and able, and the only way it can get fixed is with surgery which will still cause some pretty ugly fucking scars (costs tons of money), and people say you can't be Incel because you're poor, JFL, what a joke. I became fat underage, and once I became an adult and realized it was a problem it was over.Perhaps a more gradual leanmaxxing? Idk for sure tho.", "zangano1 said:I wish I was a ladybug tbhI wish I was a human sized bug flying around and impregnating bitches then flying away. Forcing those thots to bear my babies.", "FlyFace said:I wish I was a human sized bug flying around and impregnating bitches then flying away. Forcing those thots to bear my babies.That would be such lifefuel", "VirginAutistManlet said:Because he doesn't drive. Hes a Delusionalcel who thinks not driving is why hes an incel.THE DRIVING LICENSE PILL IS REAL AND THE REASON I JOINED THIS FORUM IN THE FIRST PLACE. IF YOU DONT BELIVE IN IT UR THE FAKECEL!!!!!!!!!!!!", "rightfulcel said:THE DRIVING LICENSE PILL IS REAL AND THE REASON I JOINED THIS FORUM IN THE FIRST PLACE. IF YOU DONT BELIVE IN IT UR THE FAKECEL!!!!!!!!!!!!I know several guys who are mid 30s now and have never had a drivers license that have been in at least 5 LTR's since their early 20s with 6-7/10 pretty women. Public transport and big city here. Don't you dare ever call me a fakecel, you locationcel.", "VirginAutistManlet said:I know several guys who are mid 30s now and have never had a drivers license that have been in at least 5 LTR's since their early 20s with 6-7/10 pretty women.And yet they still get mogged by 16 year old pretty faces whos dad has brought them insurance. What use is sleeping around when you get mogged in this way?", "truefaithneworder said:don't underestimate the driver license pillCarcel gang", "Sitokirment said:a girl once pointed out that I had some flies fucking in my hair in 5th gradeIt doesn’t get any more over than that", "I used to have a male cat that brutally mogged me on a daily basis, every night he went outside with a white female cat from a few houses down the street.", "truefaithneworder said:don't underestimate the driver license pill", "LastGerman said:Take the ladybug pill.Your browser is not able to display this video.the ladybug pill destroyed me" ]
LifeFuelBased sandcels lay down the law
[ "It had to be done Shocking moment Iranian woman is dragged across the street and beaten as crowd cheers - because she was dancing in public and did not wear a hijabThe woman was seen being dragged across a busy road in the city of RashtA crowd of men can be seen heckling her before a few approach the womanOne bundles her to the ground and then a loud cheer goes up as she is draggedAn Iranian activist said the woman had been dancing with her head uncovered By Ross Ibbetson For MailonlinePublished: 23:41 AEST, 18 June 2019 | Updated: 00:17 AEST, 19 June 2019 e-mail 5.3k shares 1View commentsThis is the shocking moment an Iranian woman is dragged across the street and beaten as the crowd cheers because she was dancing and not wearing a hijab.The woman can be seen standing in the central reservation of a busy road as she is jeered by men in the city of Rasht, on Iran's Caspian Sea coast. A crowd appear to be in a stand-off with the woman before a few men approach her, with one grabbing her around the head and forcing her to the ground.He then takes hold of her ankles and brutally drags her over the tarmac, prompting a massive cheer from the crowd of men.+4 The woman can be seen in a confrontation with the crowd of men as she stands in the central reservation of a busy street in the city of Rasht, Iran+4 A group approaches her and a loud holler goes up from a crowd of men as the woman is savagely dragged over the tarmacAfter she is released she gets to her feet and goes towards her attacker you knocks her onto her backside with a hit to the face. According to Iranian journalist and activist Masih Alinejad she was set upon because her head was uncovered and she was dancing. The victim can be heard shrieking throughout the footage as men laugh in the background.RELATED ARTICLESPrevious1Next Thousands of supporters offer prayers for Mohamed Morsi in... 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Share this articleShareThe video then cuts to her having been released and walking away, though clearly still traumatised by what has just gone on.The Islamic dress code, in place since the 1979 revolution, considers veiling obligatory for any female above 13 in Iran and says they should cover themselves from head to toe while disavowing any figure-hugging dress.Breaking the rules can result in fines of up to 500,000 rials (£17) and up to two months in prison.+4 One of the men bundles her to the ground before taking her by the ankles and dragging her across the ground+4 Men can be seen trying to talk to the woman before the violence breaks outPresident Hassan Rouhani, who came to power in 2013 promising a more moderate stance, has previously said it is not the job of police to enforce religious rules such as those forcing women to cover their hair.But in April 2016, officials said there were 7,000 undercover morality police reporting on things like 'bad hijab' - a blanket term usually referring to un-Islamic dress by women.Figures are rarely given, but Tehran's traffic police said in late 2015 they had dealt with 40,000 cases of bad hijab in cars, where women often let their headscarves drop around their necks.These cases generally led to fines and a temporary impounding of the vehicle.Share or comment on this article: Iranian woman dragged across street as crowd cheers - because she was dancing and did not wear hijab", "Based tbh", "It won't last.", "Thank fuck there are still some people who aren't cucks", "Meanwhile...WESTERN FEMINISTS STRONGLY DEFEND MUSLIM IMMIGRATION", "They should make this a legal profession in muslim countries a real thot patrol.", "Based Iranian men. Maybe that bitch can suck white cock like the egypsian whore who travel to cuckcanada", "I wonder how much pussy ISIS gets from all their harems of conquered women? You know they must have some harems somewhere.", "Europe in a few years. Nothing wrong with that and if you disagree with me, inkeltears, you guys are islamophobic fascists, okay?", "Thank god the thot patrol actually exists in the form of Iran.", "top fucking kek. like every ethnic foid she has already dyed her hair blonde and trying to emulate the west. i guess the jews really have won.", "why cant western men be like this?", "I just booked my plane tickets.", "Based sandniggers", "and the USA wants to start a fight with these people.", "Based. Sadly, the US will use this kind of stuff to provoke them into war further, they'll say shit like look how muhsoggyknees they are, we need to grant these poor Iranian foids freedom and democracy so they can twerk in public like in our country. Dionysus said:why cant western men be like this?Too much estrogen in our food and water supply (which is partly due to the contraception pill, something that is barely used in the ME due to a lack of pre-marital sex). The sad thing is that all men were as based as this centuries ago. Feudal Japan had laws regarding marriage that were very similar to that of the Islamic world and in Victorian England, foids were told to cover up as much of their body as possible, sometimes even their hair. All religions warn men of the dangers of female hypergamy but the truth has been suppressed by the elite.", "Dionysus said:why cant western men be like this?because they are pussy ass cuck faggots", "we must carpet bomb them to defend muh gender equality ", "Based sandcel.", "You reap what you sow", "What the fuck they were supposed to be peaceful and tolerant ", "Islam based as always", "Hell said:Meanwhile...WESTERN FEMINISTS STRONGLY DEFEND MUSLIM IMMIGRATION", "Ethnic Natsoc said:All religions warn men of the dangers of female hypergamy but the truth has been suppressed by the elite.Ethnic Natsoc said:The sad thing is that all men were as based as this centuries ago.Dionysus said:why cant western men be like this?Cuyen said:because they are pussy ass cuck faggotsEthnic Natsoc said:Too much estrogen in our food and water supply (which is partly due to the contraception pill, something that is barely used in the ME due to a lack of pre-marital sex).", "Although shiism is not my thing (it's actually not Islam) I'd rather see this then the whores on instacuck.", "based", "It's a breath of fresh air to see no white knights", "BlackpilledTruecel said:It's a breath of fresh air to see no white knights", "Hell said:Meanwhile...WESTERN FEMINISTS STRONGLY DEFEND MUSLIM IMMIGRATIONgood", "tanfeo said:Although shiism is not my thing (it's actually not Islam) I'd rather see this then the whores on instacuck.Same here, i dont agree with them on many theological issues but when it comes to social control and stuff related to society I dont have problems with them. Shiacels can be based at times just like in the video, women need to be put in their place.", "Dionysus said:why cant western men be like this?NeetSupremacist said:Same here, i dont agree with them on many theological issues but when it comes to social control and stuff related to society I dont have problems with them. Shiacels can be based at times just like in the video, women need to be put in their place.It's so satisfying seeing a foid being put in her place, beated and humiliated like that. Would be wonderful if European men acted the same", "Cybersex is our hope said:It's so satisfying seeing a foid being put in her place, beated and humiliated like that. Would be wonderful if European men acted the sameThe grammar in this post..makes me uncomfortable", "Shigechi said:Europe in a few years. Nothing wrong with that and if you disagree with me, inkeltears, you guys are islamophobic fascists, okay?Lol we have these jew cocksucking anti Islam cucks in this forum now?", "Ellsworth said:Based sandniggers", "SuperSaiyanGymcel said:Lol we have these jew cocksucking anti Islam cucks in these forum now?No, dumbfuck, read it again, i said there's nothing wrong with that and if they think so they are the terrible islamophobics they fear so much to be. I really don't give a fuck to what happens to Europe, good luck to you sandniggers invading there, it's really not my problem and the whites there probably deserve it.", "Shigechi said:No, dumbfuck, read it again, i said there's nothing wrong with that and if they think so they are the terrible islamophobics they fear so much to be. I really don't give a fuck to what happens to Europe, good luck to you sandniggers invading there, it's really not my problem and the whites there probably deserve it.Ok my bad motherfucker faggot", "Seeing a foid suffer is pleasure to my eyes", "fOreVER said:Seeing a foid suffer is pleasure to my eyes", "Based, hope we can finally have enough muslimcels in our country so we can vote shariah law in a democratic way and abolish that devils creation and cuckery for ever.Hell said:Meanwhile...WESTERN FEMINISTS STRONGLY DEFEND MUSLIM IMMIGRATIONThey are digging their own grave, basically what women always do.", "The Jewnited states will see to it that the final enemy of Israel, Iran, is corrupted with feminism.", "incels: normies: how terrible! we need to go to war with iran to liberate women this video was staged af. the west wants pubic support to invade and steal irans oil. inshallah islam will prevail", "MSCW said:It won't last.", "This is bad btw, after liberation, these women will see ethnic men as 'sexist' they will then go turbo JBW, and if there is a refugee crisis of Iranian women in Europe, then prepare for chad and Iranian couples", "Based Iranians.IncelCream said:This is bad btw, after liberation, these women will see ethnic men as 'sexist' they will then go turbo JBW, and if there is a refugee crisis of Iranian women in Europe, then prepare for chad and Iranian couplesThey will go JBW anyway, stop making soy excuses.", "Based necro sandcels and one of my fav posters, this is a hard one to argue with tbh..", "RickyFitts said:based" ]
RageFuelDo roastie cashiers make fun of you?
[ "I went to the convenience store down the road that I go to when I wanna food cope and this fucking korean roastie says to me uuuuu aRuwAYs cOmme here in a condescending tone while frowning.WHAT THNE FUCK DID I DO TO DESERVE THIS I WAS JUST MINDING MY OWN BUSINESS ", "I use self service checkout.They are not entitled to have a job.", "I use self service so I don't need to interact with cashiers. I tend to avoid stores that don't have it.", "One time i bought lube for my fleshlight and the towel head foid cashier had a smirk on her face, i felt like she was making fun of me", "Self-checkout crew.Remove the fucking cool down and I'd probably be faster than most roasties who've spent years working there (ded srs).It baffles me that there's people that struggle with checkout.It also baffles me that people get paid to scan an item.In any store where there isn't a self-checkout and I'm forced to interact with a roastie, they'd always do the entire process without saying a word to me, meanwhile to the guy before me: she'd ask him how was his day and treat him like a human.", "You should of punched her in the face or at least screamed out that she was being racist. The second best thing that is privileged in this society are foreigners and white 'people'. You could also use the self-service checkout next time.", "seija said:You should of punched her in the face or at least screamed out that she was being racist. The second best thing that is privileged in this society are foreigners and white 'people'. You could also use the self-service checkout next time.im not black so i cant use the race card lolracism against ricecels and currycels is basically socially accepted at this point", "MSCW said:I use self service checkout.They are not entitled to have a job.We dont have that in every place", "TheSecondComing said:One time i bought lube for my fleshlight and the towel head foid cashier had a smirk on her face, i felt like she was making fun of melow inhib god.I'm too high inhib to even buy condoms. I've endured enough looks of disgust in my life.", "JustinSane said:low inhib god.I'm too high inhib to even buy condoms.buy condoms for what lmao. i needed it bad and couldn't afford to wait for amazon", "TheSecondComing said:buy condoms for what lmao. i needed it bad and couldn't afford to wait for amazonI used it as an example. Any sex-related items I avoid.", "HighTGymcel said:We dont have that in every placeIf they don't have it, find a different place.", "No, but I noticed that they treat me significantly worse than the people before me.MSCW said:I use self service checkout.They are not entitled to have a job.I've never seen those here where i live.", "No, never but i always use self checkout.", "Azaylias said:jfl even the self checkout makes fun of meITS OVER", "Blacktarpill said:No, never but i always use self checkout.", "Azaylias said:jfl even the self checkout makes fun of metbh since self checkout now has those cameras that show your face. I hate those ones they piss me off, like I need to be reminded of how bad I look ", "Self service and when I'm done and paid for/bagged everything , I start tap the screen help button deliberately. It starts beaping and is annoying as fuck. It forces the check out attendent to come over and reset the machine which takes like 2 minutes. Meanwhile I walk out with m ythings.", "NOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT MY @pp183 LEAVE HIM ALONE", "Ancient thread, but my analysis is that OP is Chad and old gook was just trying to flirt with him.", "ShySaxon said:NOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT MY @pp183 LEAVE HIM ALONE", "Lol I've never self checked out and never will, fuck off some supermarket asking me the same prices but slicing half their employees. Also you're not some kinda hero fighting the feminists if you stop women at the bottom of their foodchain from not having jobs. Only once did some cashier bitch ask me if I stole the bag that I brought from home and didn't greet me either, but other than being surprised and wondering wtf her dumbfuck problem was I really couldn't give a shit.", "Every. Fucking. Time. The people that stand behind me also join in on making fun of me", "MSCW said:I use self service checkout.They are not entitled to have a job.Based and AiPilled.", "this make me raff", "If a grocery store doesnt have self-service checkout Im not supporting it. I want all roastie cashiers to lose their jobs", "MSCW said:They are not entitled to have a job.", "MSCW said:I use self service checkout.They are not entitled to have a job.", "Damn an old thread by pp183 with more than just a few letters or just emojis.Would have never been discovered if not for @Diocel", "My paycheck makes fun of her.", "Diocel said:BumpBased necro.pp183 said:this fucking korean roastie says to me uuuuu aRuwAYs cOmme here ", "Juice would have never been discovered if not for Diocel", "They don't make fun of me verbally, the look on their faces is enough indication.", "Incellectual said:tbh since self checkout now has those cameras that show your face. I hate those ones they piss me off, like I need to be reminded of how bad I look ", "MSCW said:I use self service checkout.They are not entitled to have a job.", "Just say i'll come on your face, if you want. What's she gonna do?", "agingmentalcel said:Just say i'll come on your face, if you want. What's she gonna do?Report you to the police or pretend to freak out, hoping that a nearby Chad white knight will beat you up.", "I hate checkout lines especially if it's a roastie. If it's a boomer or a poor wageslaving incel looking guy then Im okay with it it because they arent as judgemental or snide.Self-check out is the best." ]
Heres proof being NT gets you laid
[ "'She was wearing a mini skirt so she wants attention': Hungarian man who was tackled by a cop claims his grubby comments to a teen girl 'happen all the time in Europe'Man who was tackled by cop said girl he flirted with wanted attentionThe Hungarian man who was tackled by a police officer in Queensland after making inappropriate comments to a young woman has spoken out, saying the girl wants attention.www.dailymail.co.ukAnd by get you laid, I mean get you tackled and arrested by the police for merely talking to a woman.Is tinder real life yet?", "Based Hungarian man", "lol.i think we're pretty close to the time where an average unsexy guy walks into a room. and some white knight immediately walks up to a random woman in the room and asks her excuse me, lady, is this guy bothering you? while pointing at him", "turbocuckcel_7000 said:lol.i think we're pretty close to the time where an average unsexy guy walks into a room. and some white knight immediately walks up to a random woman in the room and asks her excuse me, lady, is this guy bothering you? while pointing at himcan't wait to read a new story daily about an innocent guy getting killed or arrested for looking at a young hot girl", "JFL roastie looks like 30.", "He is bald... what a surprise.Gyros_Pretcel said:JFL roastie looks like 30.They all look like her, she'll age like shit.", "mylifeistrash said:'She was wearing a mini skirt so she wants attention': Hungarian man who was tackled by a cop claims his grubby comments to a teen girl 'happen all the time in Europe'Man who was tackled by cop said girl he flirted with wanted attentionThe Hungarian man who was tackled by a police officer in Queensland after making inappropriate comments to a young woman has spoken out, saying the girl wants attention.www.dailymail.co.ukAnd by get you laid, I mean get you tackled and arrested by the police for merely talking to a woman.Is tinder real life yet?Clown World.", "Gyros_Pretcel said:JFL roastie looks like 30.subplot: our teenage women are eating so much processed food and snacks that they are basically chugging directly from a bottle of sunflower oil, and their face looks like a 38 year old's.mylifeistrash said:can't wait to read a new story daily about an innocent guy getting killed or arrested for looking at a young hot girlthe law where bald men are not allowed to approach indifferent of age/etc is being drafted as we speak", "Girl looks like babushka to me.", "turbocuckcel_7000 said:subplot: our teenage women are eating so much processed food and snacks that they are basically chugging directly from a bottle of sunflower oil, and their face looks like a 38 year old's.Tx for the answer. Reminded me that I wanted to make a thread about some experience on my way from therapy.", "turbocuckcel_7000 said:sunflower oilI don't get it, what effects does sunflower oil have?", "Ethnic Natsoc said:I don't get it, what effects does sunflower oil have?just search for 'industrial seed oils'", "Of course it had to be an ugly, bald guy.I don't hate cops in general, but it's a shame that most of them are whiteknights. In fact, you kinda have to be one to do something that forces you to be whiteknight professionally.", "Gyros_Pretcel said:JFL roastie looks like 30.Looks like a young single mother, not worth the trouble tbh.", "Based Viktor Orbancel", "Gyros_Pretcel said:JFL roastie looks like 30.lmao thats a teenager, holy shit foids age like milk so much these days", "DarkMTS_57 said:Clown World.", "DarkMTS_57 said:Clown World.", "The girl's father is also her pimp, and the stupid Hungarian tourist was haggling the going price for JBs.", "He made the mistake of trying to run rapefugee game while not being a muslim rapefugee", "im waiting for the flying turrets to shoot any sub8 male looking at foid", "i don't even know what to say about this anymore>19 year old teenager>tackled for speaking>we have laws you will live by or leave. ??????????soon it will be an imperative to keep your collagen and your hair, so you don't get randomly tackled when you speak to a 19 year old that looks 35NW0 will be like your papers in the USSR", "She's just a baby..", "It's now illegal to tell a girl she's pretty and ask her on a date while being old and ugly. Good game. We knew this day was coming.", "RageAgainstTDL said:It's now illegal to tell a girl she's pretty and ask her on a date while being old and ugly.Good game. We knew this day was coming.he's not even that old and ugly, he's 39 and has a general healthy look. Keanu Reeves is 54 years old in comparison and everyone would consider him a cool young dude.how long until balding men in their 20s are considered old creeps while women in their early 30s are considered teenagers that need task forces to protect them.", "turbocuckcel_7000 said:he's not even that old and ugly, he's 39 and has a general healthy look. Keanu Reeves is 54 years old in comparison and everyone would consider him a cool young dude.how long until balding men in their 20s are considered old creeps while women in their early 30s are considered teenagers that need task forces to protect them.Yeah i love the way they talk about her as a teenager as if that means anything. Is she a minor? Can she vote? Can she drive? She's legally an adult in every way until an unattractive man tries to compliment her. Then she's a child again.", "RageAgainstTDL said:Yeah i love the way they talk about her as a teenager as if that means anything. Is she a minor? Can she vote? Can she drive?She's legally an adult in every way until an unattractive man tries to compliment her. Then she's a child again.gaslighting society. there's no depth to the fact that she's technically a teenager, but you can gaslight people into thinking it's somehow relevant and outrageous.i've been noticing for a very long while that average individuals are taking on many qualities that used to belong to politicians, like brinksmanship and lying and gaslighting. nobody just minds their own fucking business anymore. it's all about stretching some little definition and never admitting you're wrong just to get anoter one of those tiny victories.", "foids should be grated they're not being regularly sexually assaulted considering the provocative way they dress tbh, men show a lot of self-restraint these days", "he was also fined, lolbald men approaching adult women = more government money", "Gyros_Pretcel said:JFL roastie looks like 30.disgusting.", "PUA shills *SHUT IT DOWN!!!* PUA stocks down today ", "Gyros_Pretcel said:Tx for the answer. Reminded me that I wanted to make a thread about some experience on my way from therapy.heads up dude. it's a network. don't reveal . talks to x talks to x. agents dude. agents.", "Joe Rogan really hit rock bottom.", "just ogremaxx bro ", "Dionysus said:im waiting for the flying turrets to shoot any sub8 male looking at foid" ]
SeriousI love the term Fuckmeat
[ "When i'm leering at foids in my car I find myself saying to myself whilst rubbing my genitals, mmm, you're a nice piece of fuck meat or that's a prime piece of fuck meat.I am very pro sex dolls because I believe they are just foids of a different material.", "CelticTruecel said:When i'm leering at foids in my car I find myself saying to myself whilst rubbing my genitals, mmm, you're a nice piece of fuck meat or that's a prime piece of fuck meat.", "What fuckmeat really means", "Insomniac said:", "mmm, you're a nice piece of fuck meat​that's a prime piece of fuck meat​", "DarkMTS_57 said:", "Very interesting bro.", "CelticTruecel said:I am very pro sex dolls because I believe they are just foids of a different material.That's a fair point ngl.", "It has a nice ring to it in a lofty sort of way", "I prefer cum dumpster or fuckdoll.", "CelticTruecel said:When i'm leering at foids in my car I find myself saying to myself whilst rubbing my genitals, mmm, you're a nice piece of fuck meat or that's a prime piece of fuck meat.I am very pro sex dolls because I believe they are just foids of a different material.Strong 65th post.", "very insightful into the modern plague", "seija said:I prefer cum dumpster or fuckdoll.i don't because girls like being called that stuff during sex.the only thing you should call a girl is cockroach", "imbored21 said:i don't because girls like being called that stuff during sex.the only thing you should call a girl is cockroachI got a better one, parasite.", "seija said:I got a better one, parasite.I got an even better one, vermin.", "PowerLevelCel said:What fuckmeat really means", "PowerLevelCel said:What fuckmeat really means", "CelticTruecel said:in my carMogs me into oblivion", "I loled hard ngl", "CelticTruecel said:When i'm leering at foids in my car I find myself saying to myself whilst rubbing my genitals, mmm, you're a nice piece of fuck meat or that's a prime piece of fuck meat.I am very pro sex dolls because I believe they are just foids of a different material.", "Very high IQ", "Celts me", "op is a glow in the dark", "CelticTruecel said:When i'm leering at foids in my car I find myself saying to myself whilst rubbing my genitals, mmm, you're a nice piece of fuck meat or that's a prime piece of fuck meat.I am very pro sex dolls because I believe they are just foids of a different material.Riiiiiiiiight. Sure you do.Fuck off fakecel infiltrator.", "Insomniac said:", "Hole is better tbh. Its simple yet effective.", "IAmWhatYouMadeMe9 said:Riiiiiiiiight. Sure you do.Fuck off fakecel infiltrator.This thread is the most obvious inceltears fake post I've ever seen, and I've actually seen it posted on incel tears today so now I'm really sure of it, this user needs to get banned", "IAmWhatYouMadeMe9 said:Riiiiiiiiight. Sure you do.Fuck off fakecel infiltrator.Jfl at the now banned user calling me a fakecel, also I need to add bikpillpress to my ignore list, jfl at him calling me an IT infiltrator", "meat fuck", "Insomniac said:Fucking saving this image ", "BlkPillPres said:This thread is the most obvious inceltears fake post I've ever seen, and I've actually seen it posted on incel tears today so now I'm really sure of it, this user needs to get bannedCelticTruecel said:Jfl at the now banned user calling me a fakecel, also I need to add bikpillpress to my ignore list, jfl at him calling me an IT infiltratorJfl", "Blacktarpill said:Hole is better tbh. Its simple yet effective.", "CelticTruecel said:Jfl at the now banned user calling me a fakecel, also I need to add bikpillpress to my ignore list, jfl at him calling me an IT infiltratorYour thread is retarded and cringey, it seems exactly like an incel tears post, how about you stop being such a try hard and less people will suspect you, I don't see how you didn't cringe to death while typing that shit outLook at how cool and edgy I am guys, I like to call women fuckmeat and leer at them, dark stuff huh? ", "Bruh", "PPEcel said:Bruheat meat", "you remind me of that guy who got banned and later arrested for day approaching", "Fucktoy, rapemeat and cumslut I wanna degrade a foid" ]
NewsCurrycel tricks Australian foid into going to Pakistan promising her a grand new life, he kidnaps her and keeps her as a sex slave.
[ "Lawyer, 30, was raped and imprisoned by her dream man in PakistanA LAWYER who travelled to Pakistan to meet a Muslim man who groomed her on Facebook, only to be imprisoned, beaten and raped has shared her horrific ordeal. Lara Hall, 30, flew to the city of Lahor…www.thesun.co.ukSajjad told her that he could offer her a “grand amazing happy life” if she was to consider him.Wanting shelter from her turbulent life in Sydney, Australia, Lara admitted she was “seduced” by his promises.She told Daily Mail Australia: “He said he had five houses, he showed a purchase contract for a Spanish house he said we could live in and that I could decorate however I wanted — he even sent me pictures of the house.“I was seduced by the promise of this amazing life with him. He would always say ‘I’ll fill all your blank spaces’.So on April 23 last year Lara flew to meet him, but was not met with the grand home she was expecting — there were twenty people crammed into five bedrooms.The filthy house was strewn with litter and looked nothing like the pictures of the Spanish inspired villa she was shown on Facebook.The 30-year-old was raped repeatedly by Sajjad, was beaten, starved for days and humiliated. She was forced to lie on her back with her legs open to “air out” her vagina and he smashed her head against a bathroom sink because she missed a bit of shampoo.", "She'd choose to have another go with him rather than let someone like me buy her dinner.", "stromcucks are mad", "she deserved it for being so retarded", "very based", "Dionysus said:she deserved it for being so retarded", "ihaveno1 said:very based", "Wish i was cutry those guys are extremely based ngl.", "What's up with this pathetic narrative about the foids self esteem?To sell her as the victim, when in fact she was just being a typical selfish hypergamous whore?", "Joelossus said:Wish i was cutry those guys are extremely based ngl.only pakistanis are based among curries tbh", "outherebrothers said:Lawyer, 30, was raped and imprisoned by her dream man in PakistanA LAWYER who travelled to Pakistan to meet a Muslim man who groomed her on Facebook, only to be imprisoned, beaten and raped has shared her horrific ordeal. Lara Hall, 30, flew to the city of Lahor…www.thesun.co.ukSajjad told her that he could offer her a “grand amazing happy life” if she was to consider him.Wanting shelter from her turbulent life in Sydney, Australia, Lara admitted she was “seduced” by his promises.She told Daily Mail Australia: “He said he had five houses, he showed a purchase contract for a Spanish house he said we could live in and that I could decorate however I wanted — he even sent me pictures of the house.“I was seduced by the promise of this amazing life with him. He would always say ‘I’ll fill all your blank spaces’.So on April 23 last year Lara flew to meet him, but was not met with the grand home she was expecting — there were twenty people crammed into five bedrooms.The filthy house was strewn with litter and looked nothing like the pictures of the Spanish inspired villa she was shown on Facebook.The 30-year-old was raped repeatedly by Sajjad, was beaten, starved for days and humiliated. She was forced to lie on her back with her legs open to “air out” her vagina and he smashed her head against a bathroom sink because she missed a bit of shampoo. 124252 124253 124254 124255 124256Low IQ Skank.", "Cuyen said:only pakistanis are based among curries tbhWhat about turk man? Are turk man based?", "Joelossus said:What about turk man? Are turk man based?yes broand curries look friendly nglI never met a curry irl though", "what a dumb fucking lawyerthey're supposed to be able to see through bullshit and potentially bogus cases", "Cuyen said:curries look friendly nglThat's their fucking problem, foids don't want friendly looking guys.", "Joelossus said:What about turk man? Are turk man based?No, they are the most cucked muslims in the world.", "Just be curry proven once again.", "IamLost said:No, they are the most cucked muslims in the world.@Cuyen what do you think about this?", "Joelossus said:That's their fucking problem, foids don't want friendly looking guys.i feel sorry for them tbhJoelossus said:@Cuyen what do you think about this?he probably dont know what he is talking about lol", "She's 30 years old , and the article is using the word groomed like it is a 7 year old child", "Is there a pic of the curry?", "I'm more concerned how she can practice law.", "woowee, imagine all of the guys who did this and never got caught", "DarkMTS_57 said:Low IQ Skank.From trying to make sense of this it sounds like a complete lie. It's inconstant and just a wild accusations. I would actually feel sympathy if she in fact wasn't the one lying the entire time. Typical western college education. Catasrophise any situation you feel like, whenever you feel like it. Gain blind support. I bet the guy was just a lot uglier in person, so she regretted sleeping with him. And fabricated this whole victim story.It's too common.", "FFXIcel said:From trying to make sense of this it sounds like a complete lie. It's inconstant and just a wild accusations.I would actually feel sympathy if she in fact wasn't the one lying the entire time.Typical western college education. Catasrophise any situation you feel like, whenever you feel like it. Gain blind support.I bet the guy was just a lot uglier in person, so she regretted sleeping with him. And fabricated this whole victim story.It's too common.Either way, foids are dumb asf.She gains a lot of social brony points, from this fabricated article.No question about it.", "just fritzlmaxx bro theoryMSCW said:I'm more concerned how she can practice law.mylifeistrash said:what a dumb fucking lawyer", "justice for golddiggers.", "No inhib curry.", "outherebrothers said:She was forced to lie on her back with her legs open to “air out” her vagina", "outherebrothers said:She was forced to lie on her back with her legs open to “air out” her vagina and he smashed her head against a bathroom sink because she missed a bit of shampoo.", "Gyros_Pretcel said:Just be curry proven once again.", "Is that herpes on her lip?And why are curries most of the time so low inhib? I'm so jealous.", "just be NT theory confirmed tbh", "Wish I was curry... .", "MSCW said:I'm more concerned how she can practice law.Two words: affirmative action", "just mansionmaxx in a third world shithole bro. women will come and be gulible about the possibilities", "outherebrothers said:He said he had five houses, he showed a purchase contract for a Spanish house he said we could live in and that I could decorate however I wantedMan of her dreams, wonder what she saw in him.Fucking just exist mode wasn't already easy enough.", "JFL how stupid can you be", "DaveBuster said:Man of her dreams, wonder what she saw in him.betabuxx material after getting pumped by chads", "Lots of bobs and vagene for him", "Stupid hoe", "[LifeFuel]", "HAHAHAHAHAHAHA", "lifefuel for pakicels", "Cuyen said:only pakistanis are based among curries tbhMuslim curries tbh which includes 15% of indians", "FFXIcel said:in fact she was just being a typical selfish hypergamous whore?", "outherebrothers said:The 30-year-old was raped repeatedly by Sajjad, was beaten, starved for days and humiliated. She was forced to lie on her back with her legs open to “air out” her vagina and he smashed her head against a bathroom sink because she missed a bit of shampoo.", "outherebrothers said:She was forced to lie on her back with her legs open to “air out” her vaginaHer roastie must have smelled terrible even by curryland standards.", "Gyros_Pretcel said:Is there a pic of the curry?is distorted, but I barely see and is ugly , maybe tall, but how he managed to meet her ? which app? that paki must have a lot of glibness", "This is lifefuel at its finest, of course the foids will take the bait because of what they see & believe in animated princess movies and believe that it will happen to them.", "Must have had a chad face or something. I mean what type of retard goes to pakistan to live with someone they don't know anything about.", "Take the catpill.", "Hahahaha. This made my day!", "Major lifefuel for currycels.", "Based curry.", "this is old news", "Dionysus said:she deserved it for being so retarded", "He delivered a new life for her as promised, what's wrong?", "Dionysus said:she deserved it for being so retarded", "Good to see our degenerate gold digging cumdumpsters being punished", "BASED and CURRYPILLED", "Good, stupid cunt, lawyer your way out of that one ha.", "Cuyen said:only pakistanis are based among curries tbhAs an Indian I can confirm this, I wish we were based like Pakistanis but my country people worship degenerate western culture and foids here dress like whores ", "Dionysus said:she deserved it for being so retarded", "XD", "Dionysus said:she deserved it for being so retardedlmao @ her ", "How the fuck did she become a lawyer?", "A grand new life in Pakistan Jfl at foids low IQ", "Deleted member 301 said:She was forced to lie on her back with her legs open to “air out” her vaginaI have this thread bookmarked just for this quote alone", "Why tf would anyone wanna move to a place like Pakistan. What a dumb bitch, I hope that guy is enjoying his slave they both deserve it.", "Hence proved. JBC is the law.", "cvury said:Why tf would anyone wanna move to a place like Pakistan. What a dumb bitch, I hope that guy is enjoying his slave they both deserve it.All these Disney movies have raised women that think some Ethnic Chad prince in a far away land will want them and only them because they are special, its also a combination of virtue signalling moral faggotry taken to the extreme - These places aren't shit hole countries, they have a beautiful and unique culture Its like a white guilt thing, like how a white person will see a group of aggressive looking black guys approaching them, but they won't cross the street to avoid them because that would be racist and then they end up getting robbed lolPeople lie to themselves for the sake of living up to some standard of virtue", "nice ", "cvury said:Why tf would anyone wanna move to a place like Pakistan. What a dumb bitch, I hope that guy is enjoying his slave they both deserve it.it's not a complete shithole, there's a lot of developed areas like clifton in karachi. it would be more developed and also all the other curry countries if the cumskin faggots didn't occupy south asia and steal $45 trillion.", "This is funny as fuck. Can't believe I'm finding this just now lmao" ]
Newsdude bangs 11 year old JB, gets no jail time
[ "No jail time for man who sexually assaulted 11-year-old girl and infected her with STD | Boing BoingJoseph Meili, a Missouri man who admitted sexually molesting an 11 year old girl, received five years’ probation and has a shot at getting the charge expunged. KFOR reports that his semen was…boingboing.netRules don't exist for these guys", "normie at best", "RoastieBeef said:No jail time for man who sexually assaulted 11-year-old girl and infected her with STD | Boing BoingJoseph Meili, a Missouri man who admitted sexually molesting an 11 year old girl, received five years’ probation and has a shot at getting the charge expunged. KFOR reports that his semen was…boingboing.netFor chad life is a game", "ryhan said:For chad life is a gameWith no dam rules", "RoastieBeef said:With no dam rulesExactly", "thats not a chad", "ElliotRodgerGod said:thats not a chad Chad lite", "Posted already fag.", "Much better looking than me.", "you would at least have to qualify for chadlite status if 11 year old foids want you", "Chad yet again living life on tutorial mode. My cousin got 7 years in prison and will be on another 15 years of probation for selling weed. Something that is now legal in many states. The US justice system is a complete clusterfuck.", "RoastieBeef said:Chad litenot really, more like normie", "mylifeistrash said:normie at besttbh, his eye area isn’t great", "StoicNihilist said:Chad yet again living life on tutorial mode. My cousin got 7 years in prison and will be on another 15 years of probation for selling weed. Something that is now legal in many states. The US justice system is a complete clusterfuck.If he looked like an incel, would this guy have been locked up?Insomniac said:tbh, his eye area isn’t greatThat's not what the 11 year old JB said", "the foid is going to be somebody's wife one day, and she will reminisce about this", "jerrycan dan said:the foid is going to be somebody's wife one day, and she will reminisce about thisyou did WHAT when you were 11?11 year old boys are in 4th grade playing with toys still", "RoastieBeef said:If he looked like an incel, would this guy have been locked up?Oh yeah he totally would have. He'd be facing 25 years at least. Attractive people get free passes in life.", "There's no way in America a dude got a slap on the wrist for fucking a girl this young. Either he's the son of a politician or jbw game is strong.", "Jal16 said:There's no way in America a dude got a slap on the wrist for fucking a girl this young. Either he's the son of a politician or jbw game is strong.It seems she tricked this guy into thinking she's older or something... She must look 18 or something and the judge saw that which begs the question- if someone looks and acts as an adult, how can a crime have been commited", "mylifeistrash said:normie at bestGive him mandibular angle implants and he mogs Gosling and many top actors.", "He’s normie looking but of course mogs me", "Seems fair", "An incel would get death sentence", "mylifeistrash said:normie at bestyungcel said:An incel would get death sentenceangrycurrycel said:He’s normie looking but of course mogs meRageAgainstTDL said:Give him mandibular angle implants and he mogs Gosling and many top actors.Also better eye area, his is betacuck tier.", "Of course he mogs everyone here, an incel pedophile would get raped in the showers and stabbed within 3 years. This is what the Chad genes do, its essentially a cheat code.", "This topic was already made, but I'll say it again, since he's a Chadlite, he's obviously going to get away with it, if this were a normie or below, then he'd recieve the death sentence, foids and chadlites and above can get away with anything, whereas normie men and below get hated on for so much as breathing in a foid's direction.", "GeneticDysfunction said:Also better eye area, his is betacuck tier.That's not what the JB said", "RoastieBeef said:That's not what the JB saidWho cares what foids think? All they see is BONES", "Just lol if you think that is chad.", "he just has good personality", "Shutup guys she’s just finding herself.Jfl at 11 year olds advertising their fertility on tinder.“She May wear makeup and be on tinder, but she’s just a child”Translation:“It might look like a duck and quack like a duck, but it’s not a duck “", "Why would you have sex with an 11 years old toilet? That's asking for trouble, unless you're 18 years old, I'm not even touching you.", "While he only got off for being a decent looking white man, if the kid actually lied about her age just to fuck Chad then she deserves the STD.", "30 years in prison if he was bald.", "ryhan said:For chad life is a game", "refmd said:you would at least have to qualify for chadlite status if 11 year old foids want you", "HOW DID HE DO IT. DOES ANYONE KNOW. SHE WANTED TO FUCK AT 11 SO SHE PRETENDED TO BE OLDER HOW DID HE DO IT", "He's high tier normie. Mugshots are done with shitty lighting so you look ugly most of the time. Only gods like Meek manage to look good on it.turbocuckcel_7000 said:30 years in prison if he was bald.True.", "mylifeistrash said:normie at best", "Looks like a kike. Maybe that's why he's not getting jail time.", "RoastieBeef said:you did WHAT when you were 11?11 year old boys are in 4th grade playing with toys still", "This just goes to show that chad could get away with literal murder if he really wanted to.It also proves that even young foids aren't innocent children as IT claims, considering she lied about her age. They are all degenerate whores, starting from the moment they come into existence. No exceptions.I was still collecting Pokemon cards back then while foids my age were participating in unprotected gangbangs. Jfl. ", "He's high tier normie. Mugshots are done with shitty lighting so you look ugly most of the time. Only gods like Meek manage to look good on it.", "remincel said:This just goes to show that chad could get away with literal murder if he really wanted to.It also proves that even young foids aren't innocent children as IT claims, considering she lied about her age. They are all degenerate whores, starting from the moment they come into existence. No exceptions.I was still collecting Pokemon cards back then while foids my age were participating in unprotected gangbangs. Jfl. Why did she lie about her age? Was her vagina tingling that bad?", "RoastieBeef said:Why did she lie about her age? Was her vagina tingling that bad?Foids don't think with their brains, they think based on what they are currently feeling between their legs.", "Satanael93 said:Why would you have sex with an 11 years old toilet? That's asking for trouble, unless you're 18 years old, I'm not even touching you.Another hill to climb for the attractive. There is no tethers to keep the attractive from doing anything they want. The laws don't apply to you if you have a good face. The whole justice system is in place to ensure the attractive have better lives and the ugly suffer greatly.", "FlyFace said:Another hill to climb for the attractive. There is no tethers to keep the attractive from doing anything they want. The laws don't apply to you if you have a good face. The whole justice system is in place to ensure the attractive have better lives and the ugly suffer greatly.", "He felt horrible, after fucking that tight pussy! ... Actually, it's probably a larp since they don't show the foid.", "Meanwhile Leuco got life sentence for trying to get a gf who was even older.", "RoastieBeef said:Rules don't exist for these guysuntrue: he did at least get five months probation, but it was certainly a light sentenceRob Beschizza said:infected her with STD​she tested positive for chlamydia after their encounterTesting positive for chlamydia doesn't mean Joseph Meili gave it to her, she might have gotten it from someone else.To be sure you'd need to see if he ALSO had it, and test the DNA of the virus to see if it matches.If she catfished him and lied about her age that's a valid defense, the only thing I don't like is that they apply this defense unequally depending on how attractive the guy is.Also if it's a valid defense why would you do a lighter sentence? You should be completely innocent/exonerated in that case. Either you know or you didn't.Calvin R. Holden and Scott Pierson are based defenders of justice.", "Mainländer said:Meanwhile Leuco got life sentence for trying to get a gf who was even older.", "Jal16 said:There's no way in America a dude got a slap on the wrist for fucking a girl this young. Either he's the son of a politician or jbw game is strong.", "Based", "He is unattractive", "people born in 2010 are having sex", "KFOR, He is probably a soldier in country they invaded that's why no one cares.", "11 year olds aren’t jb wtf that’s a little kid", "Living as a chad is an easy mode, living as a foid is a tutorialremincel said:This just goes to show that chad could get away with literal murder if he really wanted to.It also proves that even young foids aren't innocent children as IT claims, considering she lied about her age. They are all degenerate whores, starting from the moment they come into existence. No exceptions.I was still collecting Pokemon cards back then while foids my age were participating in unprotected gangbangs. Jfl. What age are you talking about? ", "LOLI BREEDING said:HOW DID HE DO IT. DOES ANYONE KNOW. SHE WANTED TO FUCK AT 11 SO SHE PRETENDED TO BE OLDER HOW DID HE DO ITBe white and tanned, strong brow ridge, sharp jawline, hollow cheeks, coloured eyes.", "Boba said:Be white and tanned, strong brow ridge, sharp jawline, hollow cheeks, coloured eyes.he looks below average ", "LOLI BREEDING said:he looks below average Idk his orange coloring and light eyes halos him to the moon. Lolis always go for average guys like him.", "FrustratedWhiteMale said:Much better looking than me.", "IncelGolem said:Most of you guys don't know what a big deal this is. I'd rather go to prison for a decade than this.Exactly, it's why sex offenders should be and very much do get light prison sentences. The register is like having a ball and chain around the ankles your entire life.But normies are the most cruel, unjust people who wants the outcasts to suffer and believe they all deserve death.", "Deleted member 14805 said:This topic was already made, but I'll say it again, since he's a Chadlite, he's obviously going to get away with it, if this were a normie or below, then he'd recieve the death sentence, foids and chadlites and above can get away with anything, whereas normie men and below get hated on for so much as breathing in a foid's direction.Not even a high-tier normie. Looks like shit, although good pheno. JFL at you, deleted member.", "It's over for @Napoleon de Geso ", "truefaithneworder said:It's over for @Napoleon de Geso If she makes my dick hard, she's old enough", "ryhan said:For chad life is a game" ]
Blackpill[Hard To Swallow Edition] Your Desire For Genuine Love & Affection Is Socialized NOT Biological
[ "I seriously think this mindset I see so many men expressing is due to socializing, masculinity itself has been feminized, and that's the trick of it all, all men are going around telling themselves - this is what a man wants based on the standard of masculinity they were raised and socialized on, which is a false standard to begin withThe men of the past weren't so obsessed with love as a concept, marrying for the sake of your family, for political reasons, or due to an arrangement seems foreign to men in our time, many would tell themselves - I could not do it, I wouldn't feel loved, that's complete BS, that's them going off of their programming, men of the past were able to do stuff like that just fine, because they adhered to a different standard of masculinity, and in that standard a man's ego is not staked in his ability to make a woman desire him, because what a woman thought of you did not matter, you had much bigger issues like wars, the social standing of your family, politics, etc than to worry about something as trivial as making a woman want you, what women wanted didn't matter, they were commodities being traded and passed aroundToday women play the game on tutorial mode, in the past they weren't even players, they were just another item in the gameWhat men want is to adhere to the standard of masculinity of their era, it just so happens that in our era that is more determined by ones genetics than ones actionsMany of you don't seem to get that modern masculinity has been feminized, so the mindset that you have now and think is masculine, is a feminized version of masculinity, men of the past weren't really chasing after love and female affection, fathers promised their daughters to men, because we understood that anyone can commit to virtually anyone, love doesn't mean anything, your wife will learn to love you, it doesn't matter who you marry, whether its for political reasons, business reasons, etcA lot of men have a female mindset and they don't even realize it, do you think in the past when warring tribes wanting to find peace for the sake of survival, IT JUST SO HAPPENED that the chiefs daughter and the son of the other tribes chief LOVED each other Do you guys believe in such fairy tale coincidences?Shit like this was normal, and the men had no problem with it, because whether a woman loved you or had affection for you WAS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT FOR THAT ERA (there was more urgent and important shit to focus on, and again a men weren't SOCIALIZED to stake their ego in their ability to invoke desire in the opposite sex)ALL YOU GUYS ON THIS SITE TALKING ABOUT BLACK PILL THIS, BLACK PILL THAT, IRONICALLY FLIP YOUR LOGIC SWITCH OFF WHEN IT COMES TO WOMEN AND RELATIONSHIPS, AND INSTANTLY FORGET THAT MODERN MALE NORMS ARE DIFFERENT TO THE PASTJust to give yourself an excuse for your mindset - I CAN'T HELP MYSELF THAT I WANT LOVE AND AFFECTION, ITS BIOLOGYWRONG!Biology is you wanting to have sex and reproduce, everything else is basically 90% socializationThe urge to pair bond (sex and reproduction) IS BIOLOGYHow one goes about the process of doing that IS SOCIALIZATIONI find too many incels on this site leave out the aspect of conditioning, they act as if the men of the past were as love obsessed as our current generation, the men of the way back past weren't pussy beggars, men prostrating themselves on one knee to beg women to spend their lives with them is relatively new to the history of manhood, yet so many men act like it was the norm EVEN IN THE PAST AND ITS NOT SOCIALIZED. Socialization is a huge aspect on influencing and creating ones behavioral patterns and mindsetSo whenever I hear guys on this site saying - I can't help myself, its biology, I want to be lovedI CALL BS BASED ON A HISTORY OF ARRANGED MARRIAGES, POLITICAL MARRIAGES, WIVES BEING BOUGHT AND SOLD, WOMEN BEING TAKEN AS BRIDES VIA CONQUEST OF LANDS AND PEOPLE, ETCTHOSE MARAUDERS OF THE PAST WHO RAIDED VILLAGES AND TOOK WOMEN FOR THEIR WIVES DIDN'T ASK THESE WOMEN IF IT WAS LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT (THEY DID NOT CARE, SUCH THINGS WERE IRRELEVANT TO THEM)SO IF ITS BIOLOGY, YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, WERE THE MEN OF THE PAST IGNORING THEIR BIOLOGY?THE MEN OF THE PAST DID NOT HAVE THE MODERN DAY CUCKED MINDSET MEN HAVE, THEY DID NOT GET OUR PATHETIC BRAND OF MASCULINITY VIA SOCIALIZATIONMASCULINITY HAS BEEN FEMINIZEDANYBODY WHO ARGUES THAT THEIR WANT OF LOVE IS BIOLOGICAL AND SOMETHING THEY CAN'T RESIST OR CHANGE, HAS IRONICALLY ARGUED IN THE DEFENSE OF FEMALE HYPERGAMY AND WOMEN'S UNREALISTIC STANDARDS (IF YOU CAN'T HELP YOURSELF THEN NEITHER CAN WOMEN)", "JUST RAID A VILLAGE AND CAPTURE A WAR BRIDE BROOO", "Absolutely wrong. At least read Richard III by Shakespear to see that it was so in the past.", "why are you so sure that they can control their will?it could work in the other way:maybe people are simply driven by their desires and it doesn't matter if they're biological or gained trough a social process.and yes I know that this argument justify the fact that women want chad.", "Starlink IQIn the 1950s in rural Italy marriages were often arranged by the parents and if you refused you'd have the whole community against (they'd throw stones at you, keep you awake at night etc), women just had to deal with it. In the 1970s in my town's factory there were people who would arrange marriages, they had a photobook with pictures of women from the poorer south and willing to marry and move over to the north. That's how my grandfather met his second wife. Same goes with the russian bride websites nowadays, those women are willing to marry a random westerner and start a family, I know people married that way and they are solid couples, they just learn to deal with each other over time for the sake of having a family and a comfortable lifestyle.", "I've never believed in this silly concept of love ever since I was a child. Had conviced myself that I felt it at the age of 17 but I knew from a subconscious level that it was fake.Love is a concept from the cucked white man. Us ethnics just want bobs and vagene and nothing else.", "Hail The Bloatlord said:they just learn to deal with each other over time for the sake of having a family and a comfortable lifestyle.That's my point exactly, one can literally learn to love anyone, and it has nothing to do with desperation, it has to do with biology, men and women want to pair bond, the want to have sex and reproduce, if you leave a man and a woman together long enough without other interference, if they are both at least average or even if there is a slight difference in looks, both of them will end up pairing up together and falling in love, love doesn't exist, urges and drives existThe reason why marriages are failing today is due to this false peddled belief of love, that if you are no longer feeling a spark its time to pack up and leave, older marriages lasted because marriage was seen as a commitment based on rules, not some magical fantasy of love revolving around intense desireIronically men have also fallen for this BS, even more ironically men who consider themselves black pilled", "BlkPillPres said:I seriously think this mindset I see so many men expressing is due to socializing, masculinity itself has been feminized, and that's the trick of it all, all men are going around telling themselves - this is what a man wants based on the standard of masculinity they were raised and socialized on, which is a false standard to begin withThe men of the past weren't so obsessed with love as a concept, marrying for the sake of your family, for political reasons, or due to an arrangement seems foreign to men in our time, many would tell themselves - I could not do it, I wouldn't feel loved, that's complete BS, that's them going off of their programming, men of the past were able to do stuff like that just fine, because they adhered to a different standard of masculinity, and in that standard a man's ego is not staked in his ability to make a woman desire him, because what a woman thought of you did not matter, you had much bigger issues like wars, the social standing of your family, politics, etc than to worry about something as trivial as making a woman want you, what women wanted didn't matter, they were commodities being traded and passed aroundToday women play the game on tutorial mode, in the past they weren't even players, they were just another item in the gameWhat men want is to adhere to the standard of masculinity of their era, it just so happens that in our era that is more determined by ones genetics than ones actionsMany of you don't seem to get that modern masculinity has been feminized, so the mindset that you have now and think is masculine, is a feminized version of masculinity, men of the past weren't really chasing after love and female affection, fathers promised their daughters to men, because we understood that anyone can commit to virtually anyone, love doesn't mean anything, your wife will learn to love you, it doesn't matter who you marry, whether its for political reasons, business reasons, etcA lot of men have a female mindset and they don't even realize it, do you think in the past when warring tribes wanting to find peace for the sake of survival, IT JUST SO HAPPENED that the chiefs daughter and the son of the other tribes chief LOVED each other Do you guys believe in such fairy tale coincidences?Shit like this was normal, and the men had no problem with it, because whether a woman loved you or had affection for you WAS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT FOR THAT ERA (there was more urgent and important shit to focus on, and again a men weren't SOCIALIZED to stake their ego in their ability to invoke desire in the opposite sex)ALL YOU GUYS ON THIS SITE TALKING ABOUT BLACK PILL THIS, BLACK PILL THAT, IRONICALLY FLIP YOUR LOGIC SWITCH OFF WHEN IT COMES TO WOMEN AND RELATIONSHIPS, AND INSTANTLY FORGET THAT MODERN MALE NORMS ARE DIFFERENT TO THE PASTJust to give yourself an excuse for your mindset - I CAN'T HELP MYSELF THAT I WANT LOVE AND AFFECTION, ITS BIOLOGYWRONG!Biology is you wanting to have sex and reproduce, everything else is basically 90% socializationThe urge to pair bond (sex and reproduction) IS BIOLOGYHow one goes about the process of doing that IS SOCIALIZATIONI find too many incels on this site leave out the aspect of conditioning, they act as if the men of the past were as love obsessed as our current generation, the men of the way back past weren't pussy beggars, men prostrating themselves on one knee to beg women to spend their lives with them is relatively new to the history of manhood, yet so many men act like it was the norm EVEN IN THE PAST AND ITS NOT SOCIALIZED. Socialization is a huge aspect on influencing and creating ones behavioral patterns and mindsetSo whenever I hear guys on this site saying - I can't help myself, its biology, I want to be lovedI CALL BS BASED ON A HISTORY OF ARRANGED MARRIAGES, POLITICAL MARRIAGES, WIVES BEING BOUGHT AND SOLD, WOMEN BEING TAKEN AS BRIDES VIA CONQUEST OF LANDS AND PEOPLE, ETCTHOSE MARAUDERS OF THE PAST WHO RAIDED VILLAGES AND TOOK WOMEN FOR THEIR WIVES DIDN'T ASK THESE WOMEN IF IT WAS LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT (THEY DID NOT CARE, SUCH THINGS WERE IRRELEVANT TO THEM)SO IF ITS BIOLOGY, YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, WERE THE MEN OF THE PAST IGNORING THEIR BIOLOGY?THE MEN OF THE PAST DID NOT HAVE THE MODERN DAY CUCKED MINDSET MEN HAVE, THEY DID NOT GET OUR PATHETIC BRAND OF MASCULINITY VIA SOCIALIZATIONMASCULINITY HAS BEEN FEMINIZEDANYBODY WHO ARGUES THAT THEIR WANT OF LOVE IS BIOLOGICAL AND SOMETHING THEY CAN'T RESIST OR CHANGE, HAS IRONICALLY ARGUED IN THE DEFENSE OF FEMALE HYPERGAMY AND WOMEN'S UNREALISTIC STANDARDS (IF YOU CAN'T HELP YOURSELF THEN NEITHER CAN WOMEN)Its all in our heads.I know.Still i would crave it, if it was in front of me.", "TheReaper said:why are you so sure that they can control their will?My point is that they didn't have to use their will to resist anything, this desire for love and affection did not exist because those men WEREN'T SOCIALIZED TO BELIEVE IN ITTheReaper said:yes I know that this argument justify the fact that women want chad.JFL exactly, if you guys are going to be blue pilled and say I can't help myself, its how I feel then don't contradict yourself and act as if women are being unreasonable, they can't help themselves either, stop complaining about hypergamy", "JFL @ not knowing they put chemicals in the food to pacify men.", "ScornedStoic said:Incredibly low IQ as usual.A lot of you are using this low IQ thing very ironicallyYour thread post history someone who makes such quality threads I'm sure your rating is of what is low IQ is of the utmost importanceFrom your most recent thread today: said:I wonder if I'm even well known here, since my posting isn't always very consistent and I don't make many threads.No, nobody knows who you are, I can't even remember seeing you till today, because based on that thread you are just some low IQ post maxxer who posts nothing of importanceNothingness said:Absolutely wrong.At least read Richard III by Shakespear to see that it was so in the past.Dude you really think writings of some faggot who appeals to the higher echelon of that time period reflects the general mindset of the average man in that era (especially peasants)By your logic, the people of our future should look back to the writings of known feminists to see how it was in the past and how the average man thought, the elites of society are far removed from it, especially the academic elites and those in the fields of art, music and literature", "Good post.", "IQ wasted.", "Lightyears IQSeriouslyI have seen many normies irl talk bad about arranged marriagesBut what they do not realize is that love based relationships were very rare in the past, and most did it out of honor, politics or familyAlso in an arranged marriage, you do not know your wife, overtime however, you do and without any outside interference you learn to love your wifeLove based relationships, as defined in the west, is all a ploy, a plot for foids to use men as betabuxx", "I blame the (((music))).The ancient meaning of the word, love, was desire and/or lust. Mostly as a physical thing.", "Not sure, I think its pretty well documented that humans need some socialization, to function normally. I won't say love as a construct necessary. But I do think we do release chemicals that make us happy when we have attention from the opposite gender that we find attractive not just physical attention.", "Love is bullshit but MOGGING is the only real good in life.TO MOG YOUR ENEMIESTO SEE THEM AS MANLETS BENEATH YOUAND HEAR THE LAMENTATIONS OF THEIR WOMEN", "mylifeistrash said:TO MOG YOUR ENEMIESTO SEE THEM AS MANLETS BENEATH YOUAND HEAR THE LAMENTATIONS OF THEIR WOMENJFL, I get the reference", "BlkPillPres said:JFL, I get the referenceWhat you say makes logical sense. Unfortunately you are coping hard. It is hardwired for men to seek female validation. If you ever experienced it you would soon change your tune. Your brain is coping and I don't blame you for that.", "VirtueSignaller said:What you say makes logical sense. Unfortunately you are coping hard. It is hardwired for men to seek female validation. If you ever experienced it you would soon change your tune. Your brain is coping and I don't blame you for that.yeah but eventually you learn it's all based on looks so it's better just to focus on the looks parteverything is a waste of time", "mylifeistrash said:yeah but eventually you learn it's all based on looks so it's better just to focus on the looks parteverything is a waste of timeYou can't focus on that if you are truecel or agepill has hit. Tbh this level of coping is the most logical way forward. But remember it's a cope at the end of the day.", "I’m actually in the process of undoing a lot of socialized thought patterns that are plaguing me atm. It’s a long road ahead.", "VirtueSignaller said:What you say makes logical sense. Unfortunately you are coping hard. It is hardwired for men to seek female validation. If you ever experienced it you would soon change your tune. Your brain is coping and I don't blame you for that.1. No it is hardwired for men to seek out sex and reproduction, it is only recently in our history that female validation has become the prerequisite for attaining sex and reproduction, again if the men of the past were hardwired to seek that out, why did they instead buy wives, have arranged marriages, kidnap and rape, why do rapists exist if what men are hardwired to want is female validation, seems to me that men really just want sex, and guys like you are projecting the MODERN PREREQUISITE onto that want because you don't want to think of yourself as weak minded and mentally cucked (but you are)2. Do you not see the obvious contradiction in your post, how the hell did you not see THIS:VirtueSignaller said:It is hardwired for men to seek female validationVirtueSignaller said:If you ever experienced it you would soon change your tuneSO THE MALE BRAIN IS HARDWIRED FOR MEN TO SEEK IT OUT, YET YOU ARE ASSERTING I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED ITSO EITHER I'M NOT A MAN (ELSE I'D HAVE EXPERIENCED IT SINCE ITS HARDWIRED) OR YOU JUST CONTRADICTED YOUR OWN ARGUMENT IN THE VERY SAME SENTENCE YOU MADE IT ", "BlkPillPres said:1. No it is hardwired for men to seek out sex and reproduction, it is only recently in our history that female validation has become the prerequisite for attaining sex and reproduction, again if the men of the past were hardwired to seek that out, why did they instead buy wives, have arranged marriages, kidnap and rape, why do rapists exist if what men are hardwired to want is female validation, seems to me that men really just want sex, and guys like you are projecting the MODERN PREREQUISITE onto that want because you don't want to think of yourself as weak minded and mentally cucked (but you are)2. Do you not see the obvious contradiction in your post, how the hell did you not see THIS:SO THE MALE BRAIN IS HARDWIRED FOR MEN TO SEEK IT OUT, YET YOU ARE ASSERTING I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED ITSO EITHER I'M NOT A MAN (ELSE I'D HAVE EXPERIENCED IT SINCE ITS HARDWIRED) OR YOU JUST CONTRADICTED YOUR OWN ARGUMENT IN THE VERY SAME SENTENCE YOU MADE IT As you have never experienced it your brain has gone cope silly and is trying to justify human companionship as purely transnational.If you did experience it from a 9/10 Stacy I think you would backtrack on what you are saying. But I MAY be wrong because you may have high narcissism and psychopathic tendencies (not insulting you just saying you might have a certian personality type) which I think may be true due to previous comments on your parents etc.Of course there are different levels of this. The average soy cuck will donate $$$$ to twitch thots for validation whereas man of culture may find it endearing if a 9/10 stacy gives him validation.Lots of men who have first hand experience of prostitution (unlike you) find they do not like it and are still depressed. Why is this?Furthermore if you want an evolutionary biological argument based on science men are hardwired to 'fall in love' and this mitigated (somewhat) them leaving a pregnant foid and fucking other foids.Moreover you do not need to experience something to know it's truth. Mammals know to instinctively mate.", "VirtueSignaller said:Lots of men who have first hand experience of prostitution (unlike you)I have fucked a prostitute, and I plan on escortcelling proficiently after wealthmaxxingVirtueSignaller said:find they do not like it and are still depressed. Why is this?I literally said why they feel like this in my post, they were indoctrinated to chase after female validation, the men of the past did not face such indoctrination, these men are choosing not to overwrite that programming, I chose to overwrite it, it took time, you think I was just always like this.You do realize in some cultures it was basically a right of passage for a father to take his son to his first whore right? JFLThe reason why these guys are depressed is because they were socialized to feel bad about paying for sex, if they were born in the past in a different culture, they would be alright with it, and even proud of it, guys like you are always talking about normies and how they lack introspection but you are no different than themVirtueSignaller said:Mammals know to instinctively mate.Yes, and that's it, love is a human concept, just like morality, its something you have to be thought, we see eating other humans and deplorable, in a cannibal tribe a father will sit next to his 10 year old son eating another human and everyone is all smiles like nothing fucked up is happening, because to them nothing fucked up is happening, most everything is socializedLike I said in my post:BlkPillPres said:Biology is you wanting to have sex and reproduce, everything else is basically 90% socializationThe urge to pair bond (sex and reproduction) IS BIOLOGYHow one goes about the process of doing that IS SOCIALIZATIONYou are conflating the MODERN DAY PROCESS OF PAIR BONDING WITH THE BIOLOGICAL URGE TO PAIR BONDIts like you are literally pretending as if we pair bonded the same way we do today 5000 years ago, quite obviously not, all this stuff of love and finding the one is modern BSLike @Hail The Bloatlord said:Hail The Bloatlord said:In the 1970s in my town's factory there were people who would arrange marriages, they had a photobook with pictures of women from the poorer south and willing to marry and move over to the north. That's how my grandfather met his second wife.comfortable lifestyle.Guys like you are the ones who are coping, you need to tell yourself that its hardwired for you to think the way you do SO THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS (IRONICALLY JUST LIKE A WOMAN)Also let me remind me of the last line in my post, because you've yet to address that part:BlkPillPres said:ANYBODY WHO ARGUES THAT THEIR WANT OF LOVE IS BIOLOGICAL AND SOMETHING THEY CAN'T RESIST OR CHANGE, HAS IRONICALLY ARGUED IN THE DEFENSE OF FEMALE HYPERGAMY AND WOMEN'S UNREALISTIC STANDARDS (IF YOU CAN'T HELP YOURSELF THEN NEITHER CAN WOMEN)If you are seriously going to argue that you can't help yourself, you can't change, its completely out of your hands, then good, argue the same for women, stop complaining about hypergamy, if you aren't accountable for your mindset when it comes to this topic then neither are women", "BlkPillPres said:I have fucked a prostitute, and I plan on escortcelling proficiently after wealthmaxxingI literally said why they feel like this in my post, they were indoctrinated to chase after female validation, the men of the past did not face such indoctrination, these men are choosing not to overwrite that programming, I chose to overwrite it, it took time, you think I was just always like this.Yes, and that's it, love is a human concept, just like morality, its something you have to be thought, we see eating other humans and deplorable, in a cannibal tribe a father will sit next to his 10 year old son eating another human and everyone is all smiles like nothing fucked up is happening, because to them nothing fucked up is happening, most everything is socializedLike I said in my post:You are conflating the MODERN DAY PROCESS OF PAIR BONDING WITH THE BIOLOGICAL URGE TO PAIR BONDIts like you are literally pretending as if we pair bonded the same way we do today 5000 years ago, quite obviously not, all this stuff of love and finding the one is modern BSLike @Hail The Bloatlord said:Guys like you are the ones who are coping, you need to tell yourself that its hardwired for you to think the way you do SO THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS (IRONICALLY JUST LIKE A WOMAN)Also let me remind me of the last line in my post, because you've yet to address that part:If you are seriously going to argue that you can't help yourself, you can't change, its completely out of your hands, then good, argue the same for women, stop complaining about hypergamy, if you aren't accountable for your mindset when it comes to this topic then neither are womenI agree with you to a certain extent.You said:The urge to pair bond (sex and reproduction) IS BIOLOGYSo correct me if I'm wrong but you are not just advocating reproduction you are advocating pair bonding. I agree you can see a pretty foid in a photo album and you could pair bond with her but do you really think you could pair bond with the same foid who look miserable to be around you and gives you starfish sex? In caveman times you would forcibly take her and she would pair-bond with you via Stockholm syndrome but this is NOT synonymous with paying for sexAnd I don't blame women for hypergamy. I blame the cucked matriarchal soys that have bestowed it upon us.", "VirtueSignaller said:So correct me if I'm wrong but you are not just advocating reproduction you are advocating pair bonding.The only thing I've advocating for, is that men use women like a resource and treat them as such, and stop being mentally cucked and emotional thinkersVirtueSignaller said:do you really think you could pair bond with the same foid who look miserable to be around you and gives you starfish sex?1. Yes, very easily, just like all our ancestors did, because I made the choice to stop thinking like a woman, and abandoned modern masculinity as a concept (which is nothing but feminized masculinity). Modern masculinity is literally just adapting female concepts and concepts that appeal to women, into the code of conduct for men to adhere too, modern masculinity is femininity, this is why men today are so focused on their looks, because like women we too now operate as though we have to pretty ourselves up for the opposite sex, we've basically become womenDo you think a man prostrating himself on one knee begging a woman to be with him is a masculine act?Of course it isn't, its pathetic and weak, but its what men do today, I understand as time goes on humans try to be less barbaric, but men have allowed this to go to far, modern masculinity is absolutely pathetic, there's no way to feel like a man if you are average because you'll be put down and taken advantage of at every turn2. Starfish sex only happens to men who don't have control over their women, and by control I mean fear and ownership. You think muslim men in islamic states get starfish sex, I doubt it, she'll ride that dick like pro or face the consequences JFL. The fact that you are speaking of good sex as something a woman must give you rather than something you demand IS EXACTLY MY POINT, masculinity has been feminized, its neutered, men are no longer in control, and taking part in the game is only screwing yourself overVirtueSignaller said:In caveman times you would forcibly take her and she would pair-bond with you via Stockholm syndrome but this is NOT synonymous with paying for sexOf course its not synonymous with paying for sex, its rape. But paying for sex has the same underlying principal, that a woman's body is something for you to use, rather than something you have to play mind games and jump through hoops to earn (dating)", "BlkPillPres said:The only thing I've advocating for, is that men use women like a resource and treat them as such, and stop being mentally cucked and emotional thinkers1. Yes, very easily, just like all our ancestors did, because I made the choice to stop thinking like woman, and abandoned modern masculinity as a concept (which is nothing but feminized masculinity)Do you think a man prostrating himself on one knee begging a woman to be with him is a masculine act?Of course it isn't, its pathetic and weak, but its what men do today, I understand as time goes on humans try to be less barbaric, but men have allowed this to go to far, modern masculinity is absolutely pathetic, there's no way to feel like a man if you are average because you'll be put down and taken advantage of at every turn2. Starfish sex only happens to men who don't have control over their women, and by control I mean fear and ownership. You think muslim men in islamic states get starfish sex, I doubt it, she'll ride that dick like pro or face the consequences JFL. The fact that you are speaking of good sex as something a woman must give you rather than something you demand IS EXACTLY MY POINT, masculinity has been feminized, its neutered, men are no longer in control, and taking part in the game is only screwing yourself overOf course its not synonymous with paying for sex, its rape. But paying for sex has the same underlying principal, that a woman's body is something for you to use, rather than something you have to play mind games and jump through hoops to earn (dating)Ok so good luck in Islamaxing then because paying for gook pussy which from what you've said is your first plan will not work because she knows she can cuck you. How is paying for sex in Thailand going to be different for you compared to other men? Most of the young Thai girls have a chad boyfriend on the side and cuck men like you for money. If you want to cope and think I'm getting sex so I win think again. Why do you think she is going to ride your cock like a pro? She will do ENOUGH for you to pathetically cling on to her and not enough for you to take her for granted. I sincerely hope you continue to post on the internet when you have 'decended,' I want to see how your psychological stances change over time due to your circumstances.", "BigGhey said:Lightyears IQSeriouslyI have seen many normies irl talk bad about arranged marriagesBut what they do not realize is that love based relationships were very rare in the past, and most did it out of honor, politics or familyAlso in an arranged marriage, you do not know your wife, overtime however, you do and without any outside interference you learn to love your wifeLove based relationships, as defined in the west, is all a ploy, a plot for foids to use men as betabuxx", "BlkPillPres said:The only thing I've advocating for, is that men use women like a resource and treat them as such, and stop being mentally cucked and emotional thinkers1. Yes, very easily, just like all our ancestors did, because I made the choice to stop thinking like a woman, and abandoned modern masculinity as a concept (which is nothing but feminized masculinity). Modern masculinity is literally just adapting female concepts and concepts that appeal to women, into the code of conduct for men to adhere too, modern masculinity is femininity, this is why men today are so focused on their looks, because like women we too now operate as though we have to pretty ourselves up for the opposite sex, we've basically become womenDo you think a man prostrating himself on one knee begging a woman to be with him is a masculine act?Of course it isn't, its pathetic and weak, but its what men do today, I understand as time goes on humans try to be less barbaric, but men have allowed this to go to far, modern masculinity is absolutely pathetic, there's no way to feel like a man if you are average because you'll be put down and taken advantage of at every turn2. Starfish sex only happens to men who don't have control over their women, and by control I mean fear and ownership. You think muslim men in islamic states get starfish sex, I doubt it, she'll ride that dick like pro or face the consequences JFL. The fact that you are speaking of good sex as something a woman must give you rather than something you demand IS EXACTLY MY POINT, masculinity has been feminized, its neutered, men are no longer in control, and taking part in the game is only screwing yourself overOf course its not synonymous with paying for sex, its rape. But paying for sex has the same underlying principal, that a woman's body is something for you to use, rather than something you have to play mind games and jump through hoops to earn (dating)Also what's your explanation for men taking longer to get over a breakup than foids? It's proven from a plethora of empirical evidence that foids can get over a breakup more easily due to being hardwired to move on to the next provider. Men kill themselves when they break up with the foid they pair bonded with. Are you saying this is purely because they've been brainwashed by mainstream media? No they fall into an instinctual deep depression.", "VirtueSignaller said:Ok so good luck in Islamaxing then because paying for gook pussy which from what you've said is your first plan will not work because she knows she can cuck you.Cuck me how, she's not by girlfriend, I'm paying to use her body, how do I get cucked?VirtueSignaller said:How is paying for sex in Thailand going to be different for you compared to other men? Most of the young Thai girls have a chad boyfriend on the side and cuck men like you for money.I seriously don't get what you're saying, what do you mean by cuck, that she won't have sex with me?, you do realize there are specific places you can go where whores are known to be around right, there are guides for stuff like that, I'm not just going to be approaching random women in thailand hoping one is willing to fuck for moneyVirtueSignaller said:If you want to cope and think I'm getting sex so I win think again. Why do you think she is going to ride your cock like a pro? She will do ENOUGH for you to pathetically cling on to her and not enough for you to take her for granted.I think you are confused, you are speaking as if I plan to date or marry these womenVirtueSignaller said:I sincerely hope you continue to post on the internet when you have 'decended,' I want to see how your psychological stances change over time due to your circumstances.I will continue to post, and you'll see that my mind won't change, in fact I'll be even more secure in my beliefsVirtueSignaller said:Also what's your explanation for men taking longer to get over a breakup than foids? It's proven from a plethora of empirical evidence that foids can get over a breakup more easily due to being hardwired to move on to the next provider.Men have to invest more into relationships than women do, for the most part all women invest are their holes, that's it, men have to do way more1. Men have to stake their dignity and approach, and face multiple rejections to finally succeed2. Men are the primary spenders in a relationship, having to pay most bills, for food, drinks, clothing, bills, contraception, etcI think the reason why men hurt more due to loss of a relationship IS BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY LOST SOMETHINGA woman gets cheated on, all she really got is hurt feelings, she can get another man in a week if she wanted toA man gets cheated on, he lost all of his time, money and effort invested up to that point, that is going to weight heavy on your mind especially when you contemplate that you now have to START ALL OVER AGAIN and likely put yourself through it again, more approaches to relive the feeling of rejection and failure, more money to spend on a different person, gambling and hoping you get sex, more stress and mind gamesVirtueSignaller said:Men kill themselves when they break up with the foid they pair bonded with. Are you saying this is purely because they've been brainwashed by mainstream media? No they fall into an instinctual deep depression.Yes its due to socialization, but mostly its due to investment, to compare a woman's loss to a man's loss is a COMPLETELY FALSE COMPARISONA woman loses the love of her life and she knows full well there are men lined up willing to take his place, that will spend money to do so too, so its easier to convince herself to move on, truth is there was nothing there to move on from, there was no real investmentA man loses the love of his life and he lost all the time, money and effort he put into getting her, on top of that he now has to go about the entire demoralizing process of getting another woman, like I said before, more rejection and failure, more self doubt, more money, time and effort being invested into what you know is a gambleThat shit weighs heavy on your mind and makes you stressed out, so no wonder some men decide they are tired of life and just want to end it, they don't want to repeat the entire processIf men had to invest as much into relationships as women did, the suicide rate for break ups would be the same between the sexes, men have to invest way more than women, women basically invest nothing into a relationshipHere's the difference:Men: House you built with your own hands, using your own money is burned downWomen: Apartment you were renting that had a nice view burned down", "BlkPillPres said:Cuck me how, she's not by girlfriend, I'm paying to use her body, how do I get cucked?I seriously don't get what you're saying, what do you mean by cuck, that she won't have sex with me?, you do realize there are specific places you can go where whores are known to be around right, there are guides for stuff like that, I'm not just going to be approaching random women in thailand hoping one is willing to fuck for moneyI think you are confused, you are speaking as if I plan to date or marry these womenI will continue to post, and you'll see that my mind won't change, in fact I'll be even more secure in my beliefsMen have to invest more into relationships than women do, for the most part all women invest are their holes, that's it, men have to do way more1. Men have to stake their dignity and approach, and face multiple rejections to finally succeed2. Men are the primary spenders in a relationship, having to pay most bills, for food, drinks, clothing, bills, contraception, etcI think the reason why men hurt more due to loss of a relationship IS BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY LOST SOMETHINGA woman gets cheated on, all she really got is hurt feelings, she can get another man in a week if she wanted toA man gets cheated on, he lost all of his time, money and effort invested up to that point, that is going to weight heavy on your mind especially when you contemplate that you now have to START ALL OVER AGAIN and likely put yourself through it again, more approaches to relive the feeling of rejection and failure, more money to spend on a different person, gambling and hoping you get sex, more stress and mind gamesYes its due to socialization, but mostly its due to investment, to compare a woman's loss to a man's loss is a COMPLETELY FALSE COMPARISONA woman loses the love of her life and she knows full well there are men lined up willing to take his place, that will spend money to do soA man loses the love of his life and he lost all the time, money and effort he put into getting her, on top of that he now has to go about the entire demoralizing process of getting another woman, like I said before, more rejection and failure, more self doubt, more money, time and effort being invested into what you know is a gambleThat shit weighs heavy on your mind and makes you stressed out, so no wonder some men decide they are tired of life and just want to end it, they don't want to repeat the entire processIf men had to invest as much into relationships as women did, the suicide rate for break ups would be the same between the sexes, men have to invest way more than women, women basically invest nothing into a relationshipHere's the difference:Men: House you built with your own hands, using your own money is burned downWomen: Apartment you were renting that had a nice view burned downThere are countless examples of men in their teens killing themselves who didn't pay a penny on the foid and just showed up. Male models have killed themselves over women. When a man pair bonds and that bond breaks it can seriously fuck him up. A lot of what you say is the truth but for every counter you come up with a remonstration that fits your agenda. Tbh your level of coping is admirable compared to those who just bitch and do nothing (which you have argued against in the past). I wish you the best of luck.", "So whats the solution?", "VirtueSignaller said:There are countless examples of men in their teens killing themselves who didn't pay a penny on the foid and just showed up. Male models have killed themselves over women.I never claimed it was just money invested, I clearly remember stating time and effort goes into the task, a man has to stake his dignity when approaching, of course there's a stronger psychological effect on men who lose women, their very ego was staked in attaining her, whereas with women there is nothing staked, they are judge, jury and executionerVirtueSignaller said:A lot of what you say is the truth but for every counter you come up with a remonstration that fits your agenda.I could say the same about youVirtueSignaller said:Tbh your level of coping is admirable compared to those who just bitch and do nothing (which you have argued against in the past). I wish you the best of luck.You can keep calling it coping all you want, that won't make it true, I'd argue its guys like you that a coping, you can keep telling yourself - its not my fault, I can't do anything and give yourself comfy pats on the back", "Hikage-best-knaifu said:So whats the solution?Short version: escortmax apparently.", "Hikage-best-knaifu said:So whats the solution?Just pay for prostitutes BROOO OP back at it again with his daily cucked delusions", "Hikage-best-knaifu said:So whats the solution?The only two solutions I have come up with is:1. Wealthmaxx + Islammaxx2. Wealthmaxx + ProstitutionmaxxChoose either or, but if you are going to choose both, you have to do #2 first and then abandon it forever when you go to #1Becoming a muslim in a strict islamic country/state is the only way to have access to guaranteed sex outside of prostitution, its the only reason its on the list, all other religions are pointless when it comes to securing sexual and reproductive resourcesRemember though, you can't bring the bitch back with you to any cucked westernized country, you better make up your mind to stay within the culture in which you have control over her, you have to make a decision, you can't go to the west after to get married to a woman within an Islamic state, you are just setting yourself up to be cucked", "BlkPillPres said:there's a stronger psychological effect on men who lose women, their very ego was staked in attaining her,Put simply I'm saying that psychological effect is ingrained in their psyche. I don't believe NPCs programme men to think this way. SOME men (not all) go in a very dark place when they lose their woman akin to losing a family member. Not because of the dearth of money or ego because they have a bond broken.BlkPillPres said:The only two solutions I have come up with is:1. Wealthmaxx + Islammaxx2. Wealthmaxx + ProstitutionmaxxChoose either or, but if you are going to choose both, you have to do #2 first and then abandon it forever when you go to #1Becoming a muslim in a strict islamic country/state is the only way to have access to guaranteed sex outside of prostitution, its the only reason its on the list, all other religions are pointless when it comes to securing sexual and reproductive resourcesSo all men reading this who want validation you should pick option 1. Shame there are no white muslim women.", "VirtueSignaller said:SOME men (not all) go in a very dark place when they lose their woman akin to losing a family member. Not because of the dearth of money or ego because they have a bond broken.Yes that's because modern men are socialized differently, we were born in nice times so our conditioning is more lax and nice, we don't have to be stern and ruthless in these times so men aren't socialized/conditioned to beMen are actually thought to be emotional and caring in these times, I'm not saying that men of the past would be unphased by a family member dying, but in certain times you were more accustomed to it, and basically thought to expect and accept it, you have to be a man and be strong and focus on the now for the sake of all those dependent on you that are still alive, you did not have the luxury of giving in to emotions and falling apartVirtueSignaller said:So all men who want validation you should pick option 1. Shame there are no white muslim women.I think its a good choice regardless of wanting validation, I care nothing of validation, it just seems convenient to me, to live in a society where I have control over the women I desire. I like the security and peace of mind that providesAlso what do you mean by shame, some arabic women but white women to shame, especially western white women, also arabs are basically caucasoids for the most partNoMoreSlaving said:Just pay for prostitutes BROOOOP back at it again with his daily cucked delusionsLearn to read bro, I know its hard for you bro", "NoMoreSlaving said:Just pay for prostitutes BROOOOP back at it again with his daily cucked delusionsHe is objectifying women to the point where any action they take will not affect him. His point on Islammaxing is legit because there's a chance for pair bonding. But how many here are going to Islammax? I don't want to Islammax. Guess I'm fucked.", "VirtueSignaller said:He is objectifying women to the point where any action they take will not affect him. His point on Islammaxing is legit because there's a chance for pair bonding. But how many here are going to Islammax? I don't want to Islammax. Guess I'm fucked.He is coping", "VirtueSignaller said:I don't want to Islammax. Guess I'm fucked.You could try joining the amish, I'm sure that will be more difficult though as women aren't treated like property as much, and also you'd better be white JFL. Actually amish wouldn't work, these people don't have much wealth and I'm not sure they'd let any man who is wealthmaxxed into their community for fear of him corrupting their nature.Why don't you want to Islammaxx?You'd only have to make a tiny sacrifice relative to what is gained", "NoMoreSlaving said:He is copingIf he has low empathy which I'm sure he does his cope is legit. Inb4 empathy is for cucks.", "NoMoreSlaving said:He is copingIn what way, please be specific, I find its too easy to just throw words around without an explanation on this site, why is anything I'm saying a cope?VirtueSignaller said:If he has low empathy which I'm sure he does his cope is legit. Inb4 empathy is for cucks.Empathy is for cucks JFL, abandon your ego and empathy, and you will find true freedomAlso yes I do have low empathy, but I didn't start off like that, I basically had to train the empathy out of me, teach myself to stop caring about peopleThis is why I hate seeing excuses like - I can't help how I feelReally then how did I change, magic?", "BlkPillPres said:You could try joining the amish, I'm sure that will be more difficult though as women aren't treated like property as much, and also you'd better be white JFL. Actually amish wouldn't work, these people don't have much wealth and I'm not sure they'd let any man who is wealthmaxxed into their community for fear of him corrupting their nature.Why don't you want to Islammaxx?You'd only have to make a tiny sacrifice relative to what is gainedI would prefer a white foid tbh. Also Islamaxing would require me to leave my job, learn a new language. I guess if you want it enough you would go but the same principle applies - they might view you as an outsider.", "BlkPillPres said:In what way, please be specific, I find its too easy to just throw words around without an explanation on this site, why is anything I'm saying a cope?Empathy is for cucks JFL, abandon your ego and empathy, and you will find true freedomAlso yes I do have low empathy, but I didn't start off like that, I basically had to train the empathy out of me, teach myself to stop caring about peopleI agree it is for cucks. I have fucked up in my past big time due to being too compassionate. I learnt the hard way. Agepill has got me now so I'm fucked. Any tips for teaching myself?", "VirtueSignaller said:I would prefer a white foid tbh. Also Islamaxing would require me to leave my job, learn a new language. I guess if you want it enough you would go but the same principle applies - they might view you as an outsider.Islam is a more accepting religion though than others, especially because of how strict it is, as long as you are strict and adhere to their rules, members will treat you like you are family, just don't slip up and eat pork in public or something lolI have no problem learning a new language (always wanted to), also that's why I say wealthmaxxing is important, you want to be resourceful before you move and leave your past life behindVirtueSignaller said:I agree it is for cucks. I have fucked up in my past big time due to being too compassionate. I learnt the hard way. Agepill has got me now so I'm fucked.Any tips for teaching myself?Dude you have no idea how much I fucked up in life due to caring and feeling, I cringe a lot of times, flashing back to past things I didWhat I did to empathize less with people was to binge browse 4chan gore, murder and accidental death threadsAt first its going to disgust and disturb you, and overtime its going to be like meh for you, and at some point you are even going to see the humor in certain deaths because it actually looked funny (something you'd be too disturbed to notice when you had now started)It won't take long tbh, a few months at most, incorporate it like a daily regiment, maybe even every night before you go to sleepAlso embrace feelings of hate, hold onto it, be goal focused, so that any obstacle ahead of you, including other people, will be seen as nothing in comparisonStop thinking of morality as something black and white, understand that its grey, subjective, and doesn't matterTBH I think I'm going to research further into this, I know I have a long ways to go, I want to make my thinking as robotic as possible, I want to be far removed from human thinking and humanity, its probably possible to make myself feel even less for humans and life in general, and I want to get to the point where nothing phases me", "I want them to suffer. I want to kill them and turn their bodies into mountains of skulls and rivers of blood. Is this biological or socialized? (Just kidding its satire)", "Ugly_equals_Death said:I want them to suffer. I want to kill them and turn their bodies into mountains of skulls and rivers of blood. Is this biological or socialized? (Just kidding its satire)You dare make light of the supreme gentleman's woooooooooords! ", "BlkPillPres said:Islam is a more accepting religion though than others, especially because of how strict it is, as long as you are strict and adhere to their rules, members will treat you like you are family, just don't slip up and eat pork in public or something lolI have no problem learning a new language (always wanted to), also that's why I say wealthmaxxing is important, you want to be resourceful before you move and leave your past life behindDude you have no idea how much I fucked up in life due to caring and feeling, I cringe a lot of times, flashing back to past things I didWhat I did to empathize less with people was to binge browse 4chan gore, murder and accidental death threadsAt first its going to disgust and disturb you, and overtime its going to be like meh for you, and at some point you are even going to see the humor in certain deaths because it actually looked funny (something you'd be too disturbed to notice when you had now started)It won't take long tbh, a few months at most, incorporate it like a daily regiment, maybe even every night before you go to sleepAlso embrace feelings of hate, hold onto it, be goal focused, so that any obstacle ahead of you, including other people, will be seen as nothing in comparisonStop thinking of morality as something black and white, understand that its grey, subjective, and doesn't matterTBH I think I'm going to research further into this, I know I have a long ways to go, I want to make my thinking as robotic as possible, I want to be far removed from human thinking and humanity, its probably possible to make myself feel even less for humans and life in general, and I want to get to the point where nothing phases meHaha I'm pretty desensitised to gore because there is no meaning behind it like slasher movies. I mean I get more emotional when I read a powerful novel or read someone's personal struggle but when I see starving children in Africa I rarely blink. Goal orientation is a great cope tbh. I feel sorry for those who have no direction in their life. Learning to toughen up reminds me of this MGTOW video on Tupac. It's by bar bar so it's worth watching:", "VirtueSignaller said:If he has low empathy which I'm sure he does his cope is legit. Inb4 empathy is for cucks.Think about this. Does your penis feel any different when you're jacking it vs having sex? No, not really. And even if vagina might be slightly better then you can use a fleshlight and it is exactly the same type of stimulation. But yet people like OP still would pay prostitutes. Why is that? Let me know what you think is the reason, as it cannot be for sexual pleasure due to the above explanation", "NoMoreSlaving said:Think about this. Does your penis feel any different when you're jacking it vs having sex? No, not really. And even if vagina might be slightly better then you can use a fleshlight and it is exactly the same type of stimulation.But yet people like OP still would pay prostitutes. Why is that? Let me know what you think is the reason, as it cannot be for sexual pleasure due to the above explanationI believe the sadistic nature of the male role in sex, makes sex more enjoyable than masturbation, both physically and mentallyWhen you are masturbating its enjoyable but its just you, there is no domination factor taking place, there's no power dynamicWhen you are having sex, and you holding a woman in a position, pounding into her, its a completely different experience, there's a cause and effect, you know which movements make her make a sound, what actions cause a response, etc, you can manipulate her, bend her to your will (figuratively and literally) its an interactive experienceThe difference between masturbation and sex, is like the difference between watching a mukbang video while eating ramen (youtube mukbang) and actually eating a ton of tasty food yourselfIf someone told you watching one of those videos while eating ramen is just as enjoyable as actually eating those foods, you know you'd call BS on that claim, so why does logic escape you now, its because you are coping, you just have to tell yourself and believe that masturbation is good enough, because if it isn't now you'll be missing out on something, and you'll have to put effort in to get it, this is a perfect example of the fox and the grapes storyI wish guys like you would just fuck a whore once (a good one, go petite, don't go for stacked bitches) so you'd realize the difference rather than just contemplating it and telling yourself - masturbation is definitely just as goodMasturbation really just feels boring and pointless in comparison to sex, it has its uses in waning off sexual starvation but it can't replace the act of sex, if there were realistic sex androids available I would not even be talking about prostitution, I'd be talking about saving up to buy one of those robotsNow I'm off to actually jerk off now JFL, it has its uses but it can't replace sex dude, it doesn't even come close, I can say that and I haven't even begun to enjoy myself sexually yet", "I completely agree with biology being in most part just reproducing and passing on your genes.I have also realized that love and validation is a byproduct of jealousy. Imagine if everyone got love and validation and were treated like the angel they are? Yea then it would only come down to sex. And the same thing would occur, people complaining that they have too much validation and they need sex. You are basically jealous of Chad and how society treats him and you want to be just like him. You want to be treated the way he is, you are JEALOUS of him because he got the better end of the stick.People have been socially deluded into this, just because Chad gets it doesn't mean you can. People were taught that everyone is equal and came to the big realization that nobody is equal so you become jealous of the people above you.And as for the sex part, it's impossible to get away with free sex as a sub 5 male. It's not ideal, but it's ideal in this situation society has put us in.", "BlkPillPres said:I believe the sadistic nature of the male role in sex, makes sex more enjoyable than masturbation, both physically and mentallyWhen you are masturbating its enjoyable but its just you, there is no domination factor taking place, there's no power dynamicWhen you are having sex, and you holding a woman in a position, pounding into her, its a completely different experience, there's a cause and effect, you know which movements make her make a sound, what actions cause a response, etc, you can manipulate her, bend her to your will (figuratively and literally) its an interactive experienceThe difference between masturbation and sex, is like the difference between watching a mukbang video while eating ramen (youtube mukbang) and actually eating a ton of tasty food yourselfIf someone told you watching one of those videos while eating ramen is just as enjoyable as actually eating those foods, you know you'd call BS on that claim, so why does logic escape you now, its because you are coping, you just have to tell yourself and believe that masturbation is good enough, because if it isn't now you'll be missing out on something, and you'll have to put effort in to get it, this is a perfect example of the fox and the grapes storyI wish guys like you would just fuck a whore once (a good one, go petite, don't go for stacked bitches) so you'd realize the difference rather than just contemplating it and telling yourself - masturbation is definitely just as goodMasturbation really just feels boring and pointless in comparison to sex, it has its uses in waning off sexual starvation but it can't replace the act of sex, if there were realistic sex androids available I would not even be talking about prostitution, I'd be talking about saving up to buy one of those robotsNow I'm off to actually jerk off now JFL, it has its uses but it can't replace sex dude, it doesn't even come close, I can say that and I haven't even begun to enjoy myself sexually yetWhat genre of porn to you fap to? I imagine BDSM or cuckoldry.", "incel-american said:Good post.Fuck peasants. When men are obssesed with survival they dont think of love i agree - but im interested in more developed stages of life than your cave men era or fucking peasantry.Web site is fucked up it is hard to even quote notmaly", "BlkPillPres said:I seriously think this mindset I see so many men expressing is due to socializing, masculinity itself has been feminized, and that's the trick of it all, all men are going around telling themselves - this is what a man wants based on the standard of masculinity they were raised and socialized on, which is a false standard to begin withThe men of the past weren't so obsessed with love as a concept, marrying for the sake of your family, for political reasons, or due to an arrangement seems foreign to men in our time, many would tell themselves - I could not do it, I wouldn't feel loved, that's complete BS, that's them going off of their programming, men of the past were able to do stuff like that just fine, because they adhered to a different standard of masculinity, and in that standard a man's ego is not staked in his ability to make a woman desire him, because what a woman thought of you did not matter, you had much bigger issues like wars, the social standing of your family, politics, etc than to worry about something as trivial as making a woman want you, what women wanted didn't matter, they were commodities being traded and passed aroundToday women play the game on tutorial mode, in the past they weren't even players, they were just another item in the gameWhat men want is to adhere to the standard of masculinity of their era, it just so happens that in our era that is more determined by ones genetics than ones actionsMany of you don't seem to get that modern masculinity has been feminized, so the mindset that you have now and think is masculine, is a feminized version of masculinity, men of the past weren't really chasing after love and female affection, fathers promised their daughters to men, because we understood that anyone can commit to virtually anyone, love doesn't mean anything, your wife will learn to love you, it doesn't matter who you marry, whether its for political reasons, business reasons, etcA lot of men have a female mindset and they don't even realize it, do you think in the past when warring tribes wanting to find peace for the sake of survival, IT JUST SO HAPPENED that the chiefs daughter and the son of the other tribes chief LOVED each other Do you guys believe in such fairy tale coincidences?Shit like this was normal, and the men had no problem with it, because whether a woman loved you or had affection for you WAS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT FOR THAT ERA (there was more urgent and important shit to focus on, and again a men weren't SOCIALIZED to stake their ego in their ability to invoke desire in the opposite sex)ALL YOU GUYS ON THIS SITE TALKING ABOUT BLACK PILL THIS, BLACK PILL THAT, IRONICALLY FLIP YOUR LOGIC SWITCH OFF WHEN IT COMES TO WOMEN AND RELATIONSHIPS, AND INSTANTLY FORGET THAT MODERN MALE NORMS ARE DIFFERENT TO THE PASTJust to give yourself an excuse for your mindset - I CAN'T HELP MYSELF THAT I WANT LOVE AND AFFECTION, ITS BIOLOGYWRONG!Biology is you wanting to have sex and reproduce, everything else is basically 90% socializationThe urge to pair bond (sex and reproduction) IS BIOLOGYHow one goes about the process of doing that IS SOCIALIZATIONI find too many incels on this site leave out the aspect of conditioning, they act as if the men of the past were as love obsessed as our current generation, the men of the way back past weren't pussy beggars, men prostrating themselves on one knee to beg women to spend their lives with them is relatively new to the history of manhood, yet so many men act like it was the norm EVEN IN THE PAST AND ITS NOT SOCIALIZED. Socialization is a huge aspect on influencing and creating ones behavioral patterns and mindsetSo whenever I hear guys on this site saying - I can't help myself, its biology, I want to be lovedI CALL BS BASED ON A HISTORY OF ARRANGED MARRIAGES, POLITICAL MARRIAGES, WIVES BEING BOUGHT AND SOLD, WOMEN BEING TAKEN AS BRIDES VIA CONQUEST OF LANDS AND PEOPLE, ETCTHOSE MARAUDERS OF THE PAST WHO RAIDED VILLAGES AND TOOK WOMEN FOR THEIR WIVES DIDN'T ASK THESE WOMEN IF IT WAS LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT (THEY DID NOT CARE, SUCH THINGS WERE IRRELEVANT TO THEM)SO IF ITS BIOLOGY, YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, WERE THE MEN OF THE PAST IGNORING THEIR BIOLOGY?THE MEN OF THE PAST DID NOT HAVE THE MODERN DAY CUCKED MINDSET MEN HAVE, THEY DID NOT GET OUR PATHETIC BRAND OF MASCULINITY VIA SOCIALIZATIONMASCULINITY HAS BEEN FEMINIZEDANYBODY WHO ARGUES THAT THEIR WANT OF LOVE IS BIOLOGICAL AND SOMETHING THEY CAN'T RESIST OR CHANGE, HAS IRONICALLY ARGUED IN THE DEFENSE OF FEMALE HYPERGAMY AND WOMEN'S UNREALISTIC STANDARDS (IF YOU CAN'T HELP YOURSELF THEN NEITHER CAN WOMEN)Wow this is an excellent post, I already agreed with most of what you're saying but you presented it very well in a way that changed my perspective.I think we need to bring back arranged marriage in the West, dating is a very modern concept and has proved to be disastrous.", "I mean i guess you could say biological and cultural evolution are somewhat intertwined what you were conditioned at 5 to 6 will be instrinsically linked to your personality for the rest of your life so it still is somewhat biological your correct most of history was 1 brutal shit show but being manly is not going out to murder steal kill and destroy to be manly is to be civil honor is not manliness honor is unearned guilt for being success full manliness is to be civil in law respecting other people's right's", "VirtueSignaller said:What genre of porn to you fap to? I imagine BDSM or cuckoldry.JFL cuckoldry?The reason why I want to escortcel is because I'm tired of watching other men fuck women rather than me, cuckoldry being a fetish of mine would be very ironicBDSM is a meme fetish for normies, its the fetish that wants to be rape but it isn't, its normies half assing their desires getting close enough to what they want but far enough that they don't think of themselves as immoralMy fav fetish is rape porn, but realistic scenes, not the scenes where you can see the woman smiling half of the time, or the scenes where halfway through she begins to enjoy herself and starts self inserting and shit, shit is so annoying. Once again its indicative of the moral delima faced by normies, rape is arousing, men want to force themselves on women, women want to controlled and be forcefully takenProblems with sexuality after sexual assault - PubMedIn this article, we review a number of studies on sexual functioning after sexual assault. Among the studies discussed, three different approaches can be distinguished: the descriptive analyses of sexual functioning and sexual problems, the exploration of factors which predict sexual problems...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov21% of women said they had a “physical response” to their assaults, and 10% felt attracted to their perpetrators - Considering how muc of a touchy issue this is and people don't like talking about it, its likely way moreWhat Science Says About Arousal During RapeYes, orgasms can happen to rape victims.www.popsci.comThere have been very few studies on orgasm during rape, but the research so far shows numbers from 10% to over 50% having this experienceTruth is there is no such thing as rape, it doesn't exist in nature, male animals force themselves upon female animals all the time, they don't get rounded up by other birds and stuck in a cage made of twigs, rape is an entirely made up human concept as a means to facility order, stability and a sense of fairness in societyHuman biology doesn't give a fuck about morals and that's the delima, rape will still arouse humans whether they find it immoral or not, so they create these different half measure forms of release so they they can experience the pleasure of rape without it actually being rape, that's why shit like BDSM exists", "The media influences society quite a bit. We live in a weird time where mass media is able to exist yet humanity hasn't really been able to deal with it. I think religion was humanity's solution to social problems, but there was no way for our ancestors to predict something like mass media. People today are taught that sex is basically some pleasurable act that is pretty standard from person to person, which is just a fucking lie. A lie that everyone repeats without even knowing it is a lie.I think love is a real thing, but not in the way that the media portrays it to be. It is a powerful emotion to some, just a passing thing to others. The media likes to make people think everyone experiences these emotions in the same way, but we don't.", "ryhan said:history was 1 brutal shit show but being manly is not going out to murder steal kill and destroy to be manly is to be civil honor is not manliness honor is unearned guilt for being success full manliness is to be civil in law respecting other people's right'sRight here what you just said is Exhibit A of what I'm talking about when it comes to socialization, the power of indoctrination, being thought a set of beliefs over and over for years, try and be introspective and realize that someone born during the shit show would think the exact opposite of you, and they would consider us a generation of weak pansies who can't survive in the real worldThere's no such thing as manliness, the moment who start falling for this BS you've already lost to society, what you are saying is no different than when a woman says A REAL MAN DOES XNo a real man is simply a biological human male, that's it, anything else is something adding on as a personal definition to suit someones personal beliefsThe way you speak indicates that your ego is staked in these rules you have set for manhood, you already have your mind in a box if that's how you are going about life, and you'll always be at the mercy of society, stop thinking like a normie, morality is subjective, manhood should be whatever yields the most benefit and control/power in your life, don't restrict yourself based on these pointless subjective rules", "BlkPillPres said:Right here what you just said is Exhibit A of what I'm talking about when it comes to socialization, the power of indoctrination, being thought a set of beliefs over and over for years, try and be introspective and realize that someone born during the shit show would think the exact opposite of you, and they would consider us a generation of weak pansies who can't survive in the real worldThere's no such thing as manliness, the moment who start falling for this BS you've already lost to society, what you are saying is no different than when a woman says A REAL MAN DOES XNo a real man is simply a biological human male, that's it, anything else is something adding on as a personal definition to suit someones personal beliefsThe way you speak indicates that your ego is staked in these rules you have set for manhood, you already have your mind in a box if that's how you are going about life, and you'll always be at the mercy of society, stop thinking like a normie, morality is subjective, manhood should be whatever yields the most benefit and control/power in your life, don't restrict yourself based on these pointless subjective rulesSo are you saying i'm not actually attracted to women just society convinces me i need relationship's ? cause that is what i'm getting from what your saying for the first point and it is somewhat genetic cause culture translate's down to our children or our idea's until our thought's come to mirror our ancestor's for instance men with warrior blood line's have a natural inclination for fighting men with my blood line are much more peaceful much more civil and they were richer from the noble bloodline's so i retain some of that DNA not much some so it somewhat is genetic your behaviour's get passed down to your children.I guess your correct i'm a gender abolitionist not a sexual abolitionist a gender abolitionist what is manly can be applied to both gender's sex is biological correct but i'm a gender abolitionist gender is up to society i agree that being attracted to women is not purely biological my central thesis is all human's have free will it is societal pressure that change's us.other point i am a gender abolitionist 2nd part of that statement moral's are objective are derive form objective premise from first princapel's thinking they are derived from logic and again first principal's moral's are very much so objective", "ryhan said:So are you saying i'm not actually attracted to women just society convinces me i need relationship's?This sentence here shows you are falsely conflating two things1. Being attracted to women2. Wanting to be in a relationshipThe two aren't mutually exclusiveWhat I'm saying is that society has convinced you that you want love and affection, you don't, you just want a woman period, you want sex.", "Handflappingcel said:JUST RAID A VILLAGE AND CAPTURE A WAR BRIDE BROOO 124501", "BlkPillPres said:This sentence here shows you are falsely conflating two things1. Being attracted to women2. Wanting to be in a relationshipThe two aren't mutually exclusiveWhat I'm saying is that society has convinced you that you want love and affection, you don't, you just want a woman period, you want sex.But the 2nd option would not come without the first why would you want a relationship without any attraction it's kind of mutually exclusive no one want's to be a part of a relationship for the hell of it 1 follow's from logically from the first.Well we all want love and affection we are all social creature's it make's logical sense", "ryhan said:Well we all want love and affectionNo we all want sex, don't conflate the modern prerequisites with the intended goalryhan said:we are all social creature's it make's logical senseThis right here is exactly the indoctrination I'm talking about, the same scientists that are saying were social creatures are the same scientists saying that technology is making us less social, what does that tell you, were not social, its just that being social was the ONLY form of entertainment till the modern era, today you can spend hours inside alone and be entertained with movies, games, etc, in the past the most entertaining and enjoyable things to do involved other peopleThat's another meme I keep seeing peddled around - were social animals, no we aren't, were conscious beings that seek out new stimuli, and in these times that's no longer tied to interacting with other humans so people are becoming less and less social, if we were social animals technology would not be having the effect it does on us culturally", "BlkPillPres said:No we all want sex, don't conflate the modern prerequisites with the intended goalThis right here is exactly the indoctrination I'm talking about, the same scientists that are saying were social creatures are the same scientists saying that technology is making us less social, what does that tell you, were not social, its just that being social was the ONLY form of entertainment till the modern era, today you can spend hours inside alone and be entertained with movies, games, etc, in the past the most entertaining and enjoyable things to do involved other peopleThat's another meme I keep seeing peddled around - were social animals, no we aren't, were conscious beings that seek out new stimuli, and in these times that's no longer tied to interacting with other humans so people are becoming less and less social, if we were social animals technology would not be having the effect it does on us culturallySex without emotion has no value to it having friend's vs having a quality friend are 2 different thing's yes we all want sex but we all also want the emotion behind it.We know human's need social interaction cause from studies and observation we have seen mind's start to go mad if deprived off contact.Also technology is actually increasing sociability but decreasing real life sociability the reason where 1 market is destroyed it alway's is outsourced somewhere else we are highly sociable online cause the modern man function's like a machine being social has alway's been a need for our mental health you can live without it but you can live without your arm's and leg's does that mean you should strive for that.Last point we still are social creature you need social contact you can live without it for a certain period's but long term effect's show us your brain deteriorates and no we are not becoming less social that's a lie we are becoming more social in other area's like online shit", "Ryhan shut the fuck up. I can't understand what you are sayign.", "ryhan said:Sex without emotion has no value to itDude you are hopeless when you are saying blue pilled cucked shit like this, you sound like a guy who still believes that women want nice guys, there's no point in me saying anything else, when you are this deep down the normie hole there is no helping you, some men can only learn things the hard way, just don't say later in life nobody warned you.", "damn i never thought of it like that", "BlkPillPres said:Dude you are hopeless when you are saying blue pilled cucked shit like this, you sound like a guy who still believes that women want nice guys, there's no point in me saying anything else, when you are this deep down the normie hole there is no helping you, some men can only learn things the hard way, just don't say later in life nobody warned you.Dude you think i'm blue pilled i'm black pilled on looks black pill on everything even just about everything but the biological part's it's muh muh determinism", "BlkPillPres said:do you really think writings of some faggot who appeals to the higher echelon of that time period reflects the general mindset of the average man in that era (especially peasants)By your logic, the people of our future should look back to the writings of known feminists to see how it was in the past and how the average man thought, the elites of society are far removed from it, especially the academic elites and those in the fields of art, music and literatureYour criticism of Shakespeare and the western conception of love and bonding show you are those you represent: a normie, npc, rooster in the Coolidge Effect.You don't hate the retarded constant cumming in random holes culture, you're just upset you aren't one of the prized pigs. L'homme machine", "sepelion said:Your criticism of Shakespeare and the western conception of love and bonding show you are those you represent: a normie, npc, rooster in the Coolidge Effect.I don't see how, and I googled coolidge effect and I don't see how that even applies to anything you said here (or even my post that you are responding too)sepelion said:You don't hate the retarded constant cumming in random holes culture, you're just upset you aren't one of the prized pigs.No I hate that there is no balance to it, if I was one of the prized pigs I'd still dislike the current system because there is no stability, of course I'd still be enjoying being a part of itI've often said that nobody hates whores, we only hate selective whores, if women were equal opportunity whores nobody would hate whoredom", "BlkPillPres said:That's another meme I keep seeing peddled around - were social animals, no we aren't,Wrong.1)The neurobiology of human social behaviour: an important but neglected topicwww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov2)The brain opioid theory of social attachment: a review of the evidenceAbstract The psychology of close human relationships is increasingly well understood and our understanding of the neurobiology of the onset of pairbonding behaviour in a range of species has benefited from the use of rodent-based models. However, the human literature has suffered from a lack of...brill.com3)NYAS Publicationsnyaspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.comDespite us having technology, even lonely incels managed to create a community where its users feel a sense of belonging lmao.Also, the majority of normalfags use technology for socialisation. The phone along with its social apps (with millions of users) is a clear example of this. People going to the cinemas in masses is another example. And you think normalfags watching Netflix are really watching it on their own, without showing off what they're watching to their friends? The people who are peddling this technology = bad thing is boomers", "Invalidusername said:Also, the majority of normalfags use technology for socialisation. The phone along with its social apps (with millions of users) is a clear example of this. People going to the cinemas in masses is another example. And you think normalfags watching Netflix are really watching it on their own, without showing off what they're watching to their friends? The people who are peddling this technology = bad thing is boomersTechnology has yet to reach its peakHow much socializing is going to take place when deep diving virtual reality devices become a norm?How much socializing is going to take place between the sexes when prostitution is legal and realistic sex androids can be ordered online?Socializing only really takes place because its still necessary to acquire the things needed in life to satisfy your basic needs, once those things can be acquired without socializing, you'll see less and less people doing so, and its going to start with men first.", "BlkPillPres said:Technology has yet to reach its peakHow much socializing is going to take place when deep diving virtual reality devices become a norm?How much socializing is going to take place between the sexes when prostitution is legal and realistic sex androids can be ordered online?Socializing only really takes place because its still necessary to acquire the things needed in life to satisfy your basic needs, once those things can be acquired without socializing, you'll see less and less people doing so, and its going to start with men first.Still going to have to disagree seeing 1) despite having technology, normgroids still socialise a lot 2) socialisation is even seen within incel communities such as this one 3) its scientifically backed up4) it's proved that brain size is correlated with social complexity 5) it plays an important role in brain development 6) oxytocin 7) it literally improves health 8) and so on", "I just want a cute soft gf to hold me", "I actually possibly agree with you now on this point where I might not have previously on the basis of the arguments we discussed here:How your looks shape your personalityWe tend to think of our looks as separate from who we are. But it turns out that physical traits like height or attractiveness may shape our personalities, behaviours, even politics.www.bbc.comDo you notice good looking men do not care one way or another how women see them? Or whether women love them or not? It is entirely meaningless to them because they have had so much of it it's entirely disposable to them.They treat women like pieces of meat because they have been socialized to. Same as we put women on pedestals because we have been socialized to.All you have to do to see the truth of this is know a few Chads and see how they treat and perceive women. It's not subtle at all.So it's either one of two things - either Chads are socialized not to care or were socialized to care. Or maybe a bit of both. Either way socialization clearly plays a role in how much you care.", "Low iq post...tbhtbhtbhtbhI can't believe you if you see a natural Stacy 8 or 9/10 you can't fall in love with.I can't believe you, if you say no I don't feel anything... you are a hypocrite and your whole thread is dumbLove exist only for Chad and Stacy.", "lifeisbullshit95 said:I can't believe you if you see a natural Stacy 8 or 9/10 you can't fall in love with.lifeisbullshit95 said:Love exist only for Chad and Stacy.You can't believe that I won't fall in love, yet you say love exists only for Chad and Stacy............. makes perfect sense I guess (How does one experience something that doesn't exist for them, so much mental gymnastics is required to be blue pilled JFL)", "BlkPillPres said:Islam is a more accepting religion though than others, especially because of how strict it is, as long as you are strict and adhere to their rules, members will treat you like you are family, just don't slip up and eat pork in public or something lolI have no problem learning a new language (always wanted to), also that's why I say wealthmaxxing is important, you want to be resourceful before you move and leave your past life behindDude you have no idea how much I fucked up in life due to caring and feeling, I cringe a lot of times, flashing back to past things I didWhat I did to empathize less with people was to binge browse 4chan gore, murder and accidental death threadsAt first its going to disgust and disturb you, and overtime its going to be like meh for you, and at some point you are even going to see the humor in certain deaths because it actually looked funny (something you'd be too disturbed to notice when you had now started)It won't take long tbh, a few months at most, incorporate it like a daily regiment, maybe even every night before you go to sleepAlso embrace feelings of hate, hold onto it, be goal focused, so that any obstacle ahead of you, including other people, will be seen as nothing in comparisonStop thinking of morality as something black and white, understand that its grey, subjective, and doesn't matterTBH I think I'm going to research further into this, I know I have a long ways to go, I want to make my thinking as robotic as possible, I want to be far removed from human thinking and humanity, its probably possible to make myself feel even less for humans and life in general, and I want to get to the point where nothing phases meWow,I would also like to learn how to lose feelings of empathy. Being empathetic fucked me up alot in the past aswell. They are times when I could have easily won a fight but I was too scared of injuring the person badly and getting in trouble. But looking back,I should have just fucked him up and not care about the consequences jfl. Teach me", "This is btw the same argument that the woke always use,jfl", "YBP Yxngcel said:Teach meThis is something that has to be experienced not taught.If anything I might say my hatred and disgust for humanity is so strong because I feel more strongly than most people. I don't think I'm a cold person at all, it's more like reality has disappointed me so much that my feelings don't hold any weight to me anymore.All I can do is try to feel less and less for people each day. I think it's learned behavior. The more years you spend being a misanthrope, the easier it gets and the more natural it becomes.I won't overestimate myself though. Some things you have to make your mind up about ahead of time and really think about it. A lot of things will come easier to others. For example I was always a loner, I've always enjoyed doing things alone. So when I say I'm going to leave my current life behind one day and never contact any friends or family again, it's easy for someone like myself to say that, because I never enjoyed the company of others much anyways.It will be a lot harder for an incel who loves being around people.", "BlkPillPres said:This is something that has to be experienced not taught.If anything I might say my hatred and disgust for humanity is so strong because I feel more strongly than most people. I don't think I'm a cold person at all, it's more like reality has disappointed me so much that my feelings don't hold any weight to me anymore.All I can do is try to feel less and less for people each day. I think it's learned behavior. The more years you spend being a misanthrope, the easier it gets and the more natural it becomes.I won't overestimate myself though. Some things you have to make your mind up about ahead of time and really think about it. A lot of things will come easier to others. For example I was always a loner, I've always enjoyed doing things alone. So when I say I'm going to leave my current life behind one day and never contact any friends or family again, it's easy for someone like myself to say that, because I never enjoyed the company of others much anyways.It will be a lot harder for an incel who loves being around people.I understand. It's different for everybody. Since you prefer being a loner,it will be easier to be less empathetic. A chad who is loved by people and he loves them will have a hard time learning how to be less empathetic and dosent need to." ]
GTFIH! 1960s Black pill.
[ "Oh, so THAT'S how that worked.", "Fucking hell", "Nature is just evil.", "Damn. Imagine how it is nowadays with internet and tinder. Being a soldier is being a cuck.", "JFL at being a cuck and (((serving))) so your wife can get plowed while you're away risking your life. Of course, it was like this too back then, women didn't just wake up one day and say let's all be hypergamous whores, it's been like this since day one, only the cat is out of the bag now", "Suicidefuel for lurking USAFcels. Your 'wives' are getting banged by Chad and Tyrone while you are lurking incel boards, JFL at ur life buddy boyo", "TheSecondComing said:JFL at being a cuck and (((serving))) so your wife can get plowed while you're away risking your life. Of course, it was like this too back then, women didn't just wake up one day and say let's all be hypergamous whores, it's been like this since day one, only the cat is out of the bag nowExactly. And it was even worse back then. If a woman gave birth to a child while being married the child is automatically considered to be the husband's biological offspring. Also keep in mind that DNA testing was not a thing in the 1960s.", "Mewcel said:Suicidefuel for lurking USAFcels. Your 'wives' are getting banged by Chad and Tyrone while you are lurking incel boards, JFL at ur life buddy boyoIt's not Chad or Tyrone. His name is Jody.", "Females are fucking deceptive and treacherous creatures", "Jfl at serving this shitty ass country. But IMO these are the most evil women, men who are sacrificing their lives (even if it's for israel) being cheated on by a bunch of thots", "How did this get pinned? Do the mods just surprise people with a pinning?", "Mewcel said:Suicidefuel for lurking USAFcels. Your 'wives' are getting banged by Chad and Tyrone while you are lurking incel boards, JFL at ur life buddy boyoREE.", "Shigechi said:Damn. Imagine how it is nowadays with internet and tinder. Being a soldier is being a cuck.TheIncredibleIncel said: 124678I'm saving this image, but can you please list a source", "jfl>b-b-but wahmen were good before feminism and tinderHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA", "I’m not surprised in the least", "Duel mating strategy is real and has been around since the begining.It's written in her DNA.She is going to do this given the opportunity, she feels no guilt. They don't think it be like it is, but it do.", "FrothySolutions said:How did this get pinned? Do the mods just surprise people with a pinning?pins me", "I don't get it, I understand that what is being said here is that the foids cheated while the men were out in the sea, but all I gathered from reading that was-They fucked just before the man left to the sea-The man was out in the sea for 6 months-When the man returned the foid was 6 months pregnantWtf isn't that how it's meant to go?", "... WOW", "fellofix said:I don't get it, I understand that what is being said here is that the foids cheated while the men were out in the sea, but all I gathered from reading that was-They fucked just before the man left to the sea-The man was out in the sea for 6 months-When the man returned the foid was 6 months pregnantWtf isn't that how it's meant to go?no nigger read again. the ship was goin to dock in 3 days but it was extended to 6 months. foids let there bfs cum inside them so when the sailors came home they cum inside the wives and they think the kids are theres. 800 got divorced bc of foids bein whores.", "Princel said:no nigger read again. the ship was goin to dock in 3 days but it was extended to 6 months. foids let there bfs cum inside them so when the sailors came home they cum inside the wives and they think the kids are theres. 800 got divorced bc of foids bein whores.Oh god dammit, I didn't recognize that there were two distinct men, the bf and the husband, but wow, fuck foids", "Women should be locked up so they can't cheat", "TheSecondComing said:JFL at being a cuck and (((serving))) so your wife can get plowed while you're away risking your life", "When the fuck will normies wake up and realise that women are demons in disguise", "You fight for Jews and they repay you encouraging your wife to cuck you.", "OHHHHHHHH bu-h bu-h go back to a tradcuck society guy's this would never hapen", "If this article was from 2019 it would be about 3000 divorces out of 5000 assuming 2000 were actually single ", "ryhan said:OHHHHHHHH bu-h bu-h go back to a tradcuck society guy's this would never hapen60s wasn't really traditional, by then they had already suffered at least 50 years of feminism. But it was still better than today.", "EyesAreSoCold said:60s wasn't really traditional, by then they had already suffered at least 50 years of feminism. But it was still better than today.It was just before the sexual revulation the 70's felt the pain of that the 60's baisically still was somewhat tradional", "This were the 1960s so this was before being promiscuous was the norm, now it would be more fucked since the cheating rate would likely be a lot higher, while the pregnancy rate would be drastically lower. Also, just lol at not posting a link to the article.", "tradcels on suicide watch", "fellofix said:I don't get it, I understand that what is being said here is that the foids cheated while the men were out in the sea, but all I gathered from reading that was-They fucked just before the man left to the sea-The man was out in the sea for 6 months-When the man returned the foid was 6 months pregnantWtf isn't that how it's meant to go?Read it again. Someone set the entire situation up. They weren't supposed to be out at sea for 6 months. They were supposed to come back way earlier but they came back way later and that's how a lot of women got caught.", "Women have been cucking men for centuries, at least now we have means of finding out about it.", "starystulejarz said:Nature is just evil.", "When you are from us navy/airforce and lurking on incels to make fun of us but you get blackpilled instead", "Reddit_is_for_cucks said:When you are from us navy/airforce and lurking on incels to make fun of us but you get blackpilled instead", "That's why I'd never leave my home for more than 2 days if I were a married man. Any man who is required by his job to be gone for half a year just shouldn't get married, what's the point.", "Source!", "Pic related", "sepelion said:Pic relatedStill my fav episode ngl.", "Mewcel said:Suicidefuel for lurking USAFcels. Your 'wives' are getting banged by Chad and Tyrone while you are lurking incel boards, JFL at ur life buddy boyo", "Subhuman gender", "the 60's is when 2nd wave feminism hit.", "angrycurrycel said:the 60's is when 2nd wave feminism hit.You can find similar behavior since the Victorian Era and since the dawn of Homo Sapiens. sepelion said:Pic relatedWhore is literally trying to make bank off of being a thot.", "TheIncredibleIncel said:You can find similar behavior since the Victorian Era and since the dawn of Homo Sapiens.its over for the male species.", "The female mating strategy: lock down a beta and pursue good genes on the side.", "starystulejarz said:Nature is just evil.", "By the way, good find.", "We should just all build rape dungeons. There's no point in having a relationship with a female on any level.", "Women are evil", "Yungguy said:Subhuman gender", "insecurity has a purpose or we wouldn't've evolved it.", "angrycurrycel said:its over for the male species.", "Eugenicist said:insecurity has a purpose or we wouldn't've evolved it.Couldn't agree more. Being blindly trusting is how you get manipulated.", "TheIncredibleIncel said:Couldn't agree more. Being blindly trusting is how you get manipulated.real reason insecurity is talked against is so people don't gain higher awareness.", "It's ovER for dotmilcucks.", "I Always said soldiers are cucks. Fuck fighting for any government ever.", "VincentVanCope said:Fucking hell", "I wonder how many cucks were made over the course of the invasion of Afghanistan." ]
RageFuelAfghanistan chad transfers to new school and females instantly start acting different
[ "tfw 80 kids", "The injustice...FUCK !!!", "tl;dr its over if youre not chad", "wish i was afghan", "Sound like current Europe.", "Nothing new.", "Just be white br0 its that easy br0Just be chad or its over.", "Blacktarpill said:Just be white br0 its that easy br0Just be chad or its over.notice how it was ethnic chad slaying ethnic foids and old white foids, no white foids the same age range as ethnic chad", "Is this story set in India?", "ColdLightOfDay said:Is this story set in India?He said before 9/11 so it likely happened in North America. The original post was deleted a few months ago but luckily I've gotten into the habit of taking screenshots of things that pique my interest.", "foids dont discriminate if your chad", "I cant stand this anymore.i just wanna grab and gun and mow down as many whores as i can.Fuck this shit.What has this world come to,there is no point being a good person.Elliot was way ahead of our time,he saw this degenerate world for what it was and knew there was only one solution to end this madness.", "Damn he managed to fuck and impregnate 2 teachers. Life is not fair.", "truefaithneworder said:I cant stand this anymore.i just wanna grab and gun and mow down as many whores as i can.Fuck this shit.What has this world come to,there is no point being a good person.Elliot was way ahead of our time,he saw this degenerate world for what it was and knew there was only one solution to end this madness.", "Hindu girl married her cousin , the fuck we don't do that", "truefaithneworder said:I cant stand this anymore.i just wanna grab and gun and mow down as many whores as i can.Fuck this shit.What has this world come to,there is no point being a good person.Elliot was way ahead of our time,he saw this degenerate world for what it was and knew there was only one solution to end this madness.", "I receive pleasurable feelings from my envious resentment of the instinctual desire that Chads provoke in females which I never in a million years could. However, I'm smart enough to limit my resentment of Chads and females. It's my fellow incel-tier males who hold the blackpill at arm's length that I fucking hate.", "truefaithneworder said:I cant stand this anymore.i just wanna grab and gun and mow down as many whores as i can.Fuck this shit.What has this world come to,there is no point being a good person.Elliot was way ahead of our time,he saw this degenerate world for what it was and knew there was only one solution to end this madness.Now now, dont ERmax until your copes are completely done", "angrycurrycel said:wish i was afghanYou wish you were anything but curry", "angrycurrycel said:wish i was afghanSame. A lot of them are white passing.", "This sounds like a troll thread", "The reason why he had such a deep voice and high-T levels is because the Afghan government doesn't have the money to pump their tapwater full with estrogen.TheIncredibleIncel said:He said before 9/11 so it likely happened in North America. The original post was deleted a few months ago but luckily I've gotten into the habit of taking screenshots of things that pique my interest.It could also be set in Europe since many Afghans moved there as well. I'm betting on Germany.", "Storm said:This sounds like a troll threadHow do you figure that?", "Ethnic Natsoc said:The reason why he had such a deep voice and high-T levels is because the Afghan government doesn't have the money to pump their tapwater full with estrogen.It could also be set in Europe since many Afghans moved there as well. I'm betting on Germany.Europe doesn't prevent Incest relationships either for fear of muh cultural identity race hate if certain groups do it.", "ordinaryotaku said:Same. A lot of them are white passing.same thing with persians though", "Storm said:This sounds like a troll threadTbh", "Storm said:This sounds like a troll threadMASSIVE cope.", "angrycurrycel said:same thing with persians thoughI wish I was full Persian though, I'm only have. And Kurd Persians are very dark skinned tbh, I don't think I'm that because I have light-ish skin, but I'm definitely not white passing because people ask me what I am.", "This how it is. It is not something you need to notice. Women open their legs for you when you have it and keep it closed when you dont have it.That is the reason why i dont really care anymore because i know it never will happen, i have accepted it. This how things actually are, people try to make something complicated out of it, but attraction is SIMPLE af.", "Chaddam completely fucks shit up with his scimitar-wielding seed. What a surprise.", "weirdguy22 said:This how it is. It is not something you need to notice. Women open their legs for you when you have it and keep it closed when you dont have it.That is the reason why i dont really care anymore because i know it never will happen, i have accepted it. This how things actually are, people try to make something complicated out of it, but attraction is SIMPLE af.People want to believe in the just-world fallacy. They want to believe they are in complete control of their lives.", "TheIncredibleIncel said:People want to believe in the just-world fallacy. They want to believe they are in complete control of their lives.KlaatuBaradahNnn...Necktie. Nectar. Nickel. Noodle.And that's how you raised this dead thread.", "MSCW said:Sound like current Europe.Yep, Chadullah always win.Arya said:Hindu girl married her cousin , the fuck we don't do thatThe fuck you talking about. Hindu whores from South India do exactly that. South Indians Hindus are very different from North Indian Hindus in their beliefs - especially Hindus from Tamil Nadu.It is extremely common and accepted in Tamil Nadu.Government must campaign against cousin marriages, experts say | Chennai News - Times of IndiaSince the genetic makeup of close relatives is similar, there is a greater chance that defective genes will manifest the defects in the children.timesofindia.indiatimes.com", "Sounds like a larp though.", "MSCW said:Sound like current Europe. ", "LARPITYARPCliffs: Odd fact pattern = False", "based_meme said:KlaatuBaradahNnn...Necktie. Nectar. Nickel. Noodle.And that's how you raised this dead thread.I see your Evil Dead reference. Groovy, baby.", "RREEEEEEEEE said:I see your Evil Dead reference. Groovy, baby.Hail to the king, baby.", "I wish I was the child of one of the girls he got pregnant so I could have Chad genes.", "Larp but could happen", "Deleted member 16359 said:I cant stand this anymore.i just wanna grab and gun and mow down as many whores as i can.Fuck this shit.What has this world come to,there is no point being a good person.Elliot was way ahead of our time,he saw this degenerate world for what it was and knew there was only one solution to end this madness.i was so fucked in the head lmao" ]
JFL if you think Islam can defeat feminism
[ "why some incels rely on islam?muslim countries of North Africa, SubSaharian Africa and middle East are economically and culturally undeveloped. (except Saudi and Turkey)this is why old traditional values of marriage and family are still popular: people get married at young age and whoever commits adultery gets terrible sentencies (in some countries adultery is even punished with death penalty the most traditionalist muslim countries the islamic law coincides with the state law.Are theese traditionalist laws still in force in all muslim countries?in last century many progressive muslim politician started making laws to make their countries more secular and westernized.in fact they removed most laws based on islamic law (sharia) and adopted new secular laws in family jurispriudence.the turkish leader Mustafa Kemal banned the hijab in 1920, the tunisian president Bourghiba banned the islamic talaq (a divorce in which men can kick out their wife from their home), banned male polygamy, legalized abortion in 1960 and tried to stop female segregation. Morocco recently banned the hijab for female soldiers. Even the most conservative country, Saudi Arabia, is making gender equality laws, for example the laws that assert women cannot take a drive licence and cannot go out without their husband have been abolished.many islamic leaders see westernization as sign of modernizationnowadays a big amount of women from Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Turkey, Azerbaijan don't wear hijab.Secular muslim countriesI don't need words to describe the society of theese countries. just look at the girls in theese locations: are they super-religious hijabi girls afraid of having extramarital sex or polygamous girls who dress like western women to attract chads?Tirana, Albania su Instagram • Foto e video1.1 mln post - Vedi le foto e i video di Instagram acquisti presso Tirana, Albaniawww.instagram.comPristina su Instagram • Foto e video446.5 mila post - Vedi le foto e i video di Instagram acquisti presso Pristinawww.instagram.comSarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina su Instagram • Foto e video1.2 mln post - Vedi le foto e i video di Instagram acquisti presso Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovinawww.instagram.comIstanbul, Turkey su Instagram • Foto e video24 mln post - Vedi le foto e i video di Instagram acquisti presso Istanbul, Turkeywww.instagram.comAnkara, Turkey su Instagram • Foto e video5.8 mln post - Vedi le foto e i video di Instagram acquisti presso Ankara, Turkeywww.instagram.comBaku, Azerbaijan su Instagram • Foto e video6.6 mln post - Vedi le foto e i video di Instagram acquisti presso Baku, Azerbaijanwww.instagram.comTunis, Tunisia su Instagram • Foto e video908.6 mila post - Vedi le foto e i video di Instagram acquisti presso Tunis, Tunisiawww.instagram.comDamascus, Syria su Instagram • Foto e video425.5 mila post - Vedi le foto e i video di Instagram acquisti presso Damascus, Syriawww.instagram.com", "Brak123 said:why some incels rely on islam?muslim countries of North Africa, SubSaharian Africa and middle East are economically and culturally undeveloped. (except Saudi and Turkey)this is why old traditional values of marriage and family are still popular: people get married at young age and whoever commits adultery gets terrible sentencies (in some countries adultery is even punished with death penalty the most traditionalist muslim countries the islamic law coincides with the state law.Are theese traditionalist laws still in force in all muslim countries?in last century many progressive muslim politician started making laws to make their countries more secular and westernized.in fact they removed most laws based on islamic law (sharia) and adopted new secular laws in family jurispriudence.the turkish leader Mustafa Kemal banned the hijab in 1920, the tunisian president Bourghiba banned the islamic talaq (a divorce in which men can kick out their wife from their home), banned male polygamy, legalized abortion in 1960 and tried to stop female segregation. Morocco recently banned the hijab for female soldiers. Even the most conservative country, Saudi Arabia, is making gender equality laws, for example the laws that assert women cannot take a drive licence and cannot go out without their husband have been abolished.many islamic leaders see westernization as sign of modernizationnowadays a big amount of women from Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Turkey, Azerbaijan don't wear hijab.Secular muslim countriesI don't need words to describe the society of theese countries. just look at the girls in theese locations: are they super-religious hijabi girls afraid of having extramarital sex or polygamous girls who dress like western women to attract chads?Tirana, Albania su Instagram • Foto e video1.1 mln post - Vedi le foto e i video di Instagram acquisti presso Tirana, Albaniawww.instagram.comPristina su Instagram • Foto e video446.5 mila post - Vedi le foto e i video di Instagram acquisti presso Pristinawww.instagram.comSarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina su Instagram • Foto e video1.2 mln post - Vedi le foto e i video di Instagram acquisti presso Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovinawww.instagram.comIstanbul, Turkey su Instagram • Foto e video24 mln post - Vedi le foto e i video di Instagram acquisti presso Istanbul, Turkeywww.instagram.comAnkara, Turkey su Instagram • Foto e video5.8 mln post - Vedi le foto e i video di Instagram acquisti presso Ankara, Turkeywww.instagram.comBaku, Azerbaijan su Instagram • Foto e video6.6 mln post - Vedi le foto e i video di Instagram acquisti presso Baku, Azerbaijanwww.instagram.comTunis, Tunisia su Instagram • Foto e video908.6 mila post - Vedi le foto e i video di Instagram acquisti presso Tunis, Tunisiawww.instagram.comDamascus, Syria su Instagram • Foto e video425.5 mila post - Vedi le foto e i video di Instagram acquisti presso Damascus, Syriawww.instagram.comthey will eventually turn back hopefully tbh. probably once they start having weird gay pride parades were the men wear leather bdsm and dog collars and people bring their kids. it will be meme'd when it happens and they just might be the only people left who can feel tribalistic shame. I mean if some guy can get pissed enough at Hebdo making some cartoons surely faggotry in the streets will make them wake up.it's probably just over.", "islam = the instagram whores sometimes have a hijaball men are cucks and will shit on their religion / culture for hairy used up cum filled infected pussy", "Handflappingcel said:they will eventually turn back hopefully tbh. probably once they start having weird gay pride parades were the men wear leather bdsm and dog collars and people bring their kids. it will be meme'd when it happens and they just might be the only people left who can feel tribalistic shame. I mean if some guy can get pissed enough at Hebdo making some cartoons surely faggotry in the streets will make them wake up.it's probably just over.Istanbul gay pride:the government has tried to ban the gay pride, but the pride marches go on", "Brak123 said:Istanbul gay pride: 125145 125146 125147 125148the government has tried to ban the gay pride, but the pride marches go onif you don't enforce religious law what's the point? im not saying be super strict. their can be a moderate approach but I don't think having public displays of non-sense is moderate.", "Brak123 said:Istanbul gay pride: 125145 125146 125147 125148the government has tried to ban the gay pride, but the pride marches go onIslam, enforce your religious laws already. Don't let the western turn your country into clown world.", "mylifeistrash said:all men are cucks and will shit on their religion / culture for hairy used up cum filled infected pussy", "most young muslims are feminists anyway", "Religion dies in the face of 1st world comforts", "StaroRavager said:Religion dies in the face of 1st world comfortshigh iq", "Islam is a low IQ cope, it's not stable, and doesn't work in the long run. We know what does work in the long run when there's no interference, and a proper patriarchy, and it's not Islam. However I can understand why people might be led to it. Simple people who are suffering think Islam is the simple solution.", "BrendioEEE said:Islam is a low IQ cope, it's not stable, and doesn't work in the long run. We know what does work in the long run when there's no interference, and a proper patriarchy, and it's not Islam. However I can understand why people might be led to it. Simple people who are suffering think Islam is the simple solution.Agreed. Any society that starts out as an Islamic patriarchy will simply devolve into an Islamic leftist shithole. Incels should not rely on religion to solve their problems because religion has the major flaw that it can be interpreted in many different ways which means that Islam can also be interpreted from a modern, pro-feminist perspective. You can this see for yourself by how after every terrorist attack there are people saying that the terrorists weren't real muslims after which they start quoting the peaceful parts of the Quran. But the terrorists themselves committed their acts because there are also violent verses in the Quran. So neither of these two people are technically wrong because the Quran is full of contradictions. This is partly because it was written over a timespan of many different years with the earlier, peaceful texts being written when Islam was just a small minority religion and the more violent verses being written when it had already overtaken Arabia.", "Many Muslims are extremely moderate and don't take their religion too seriously anyway, same as Christians in the West. They are more loyal to whatever customs are popular at the time than strictly to Islam. This is the way of most religions, in fact. Civilization and technological progress always dilutes religious authenticity, always.", "Ethnic Natsoc said:Agreed. Any society that starts out as an Islamic patriarchy will simply devolve into an Islamic leftist shithole. Incels should not rely on religion to solve their problems because religion has the major flaw that it can be interpreted in many different ways which means that Islam can also be interpreted from a modern, pro-feminist perspective.I disagree on this part in the sense that I do think for example a Religion that is, Traditionalist, Patriarchal, and Authoritarian can and has worked. For example Christianity can work very well if people didn't fall for the modern Prot or Catholic churches, both mainstream Protestant and Catholic churches were infiltrated harder by Marxism and Jews than any other Religion. You gotta wonder why Christianity in particular was attacked and subverted so hard.I think that a Christianity that is Authoritarian, maybe in a NatSoc or Monarchy type environment, would work out very well, especially if there were blatant anti marxist and infiltration counter measures. Western Society was evolving just fine under Christianity until Jews flooded the Catholic church with homosexuals, and made protestants passive Israel worshippers.The way I view it is, what do the people at the top hate the most? Christianity is at the top. I noticed this when I was an Atheist studying evolutionary biology, and then when I noticed a patriarchal system based on evolutionary biological determinism lines up perfectly with a traditionalist Christian system, I thought this probably wasn't a coincidence.", "BrendioEEE said:I disagree on this part in the sense that I do think for example a Religion that is, Traditionalist, Patriarchal, and Authoritarian can and has worked. For example Christianity can work very well if people didn't fall for the modern Prot or Catholic churches, both mainstream Protestant and Catholic churches were infiltrated harder by Marxism and Jews than any other Religion. You gotta wonder why Christianity in particular was attacked and subverted so hard.I think that a Christianity that is Authoritarian, maybe in a NatSoc or Monarchy type environment, would work out very well, especially if there were blatant anti marxist and infiltration counter measures. Western Society was evolving just fine under Christianity until Jews flooded the Catholic church with homosexuals, and made protestants passive Israel worshippers.The way I view it is, what do the people at the top hate the most? Christianity is at the top. I noticed this while I when I was an Atheist studying evolutionary biology, and then when I noticed a patriarchal system based on evolutionary biological determinism lines up perfectly with a traditionalist Christian system, I thought this probably wasn't a coincidence.A society can only be tradionalist and patriarchal if its leaders and people wish it to be and actively fight against subversion. Religion will not defend you against degeneracy, it can be used to teach people a sense of right and wrong but in the end morals need to be enforced by a non-religious entity (like the government). I think Christianity is too far gone now, Europeans on the right already realised this at the end of the 19th century and early 20th century; Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, potentially Hitler, Mussolini, Evola. These were all people who were looking for alternatives to fill the void that Christianity could no longer fill. Me personally, I think the reason for that is because Christianity was simply not made for Europeans but Semitic peoples, just like Islam. So Europeans need a religion that reflects their own racial characteristics more. Many Europeans on the right are turning to forms of Neo-Paganism so I wouldn't be surpised if that became a major religion in the west someday.", "Ethnic Natsoc said:A society can only be tradionalist and patriarchal if its leaders and people wish it to be and actively fight against subversion. Religion will not defend you against degeneracy, it can be used to teach people a sense of right and wrong but in the end morals need to be enforced by a non-religious entity (like the government).Completely agree, in some parts of Europe males are still the ones in control and will shame anything that steps out of line and is degenerate. Of course in return nowadays if you speak up against some things you will get jail time, but there are some based countries in Europe that still hold traditionalist values.Ethnic Natsoc said:I think Christianity is too far gone now, Europeans on the right already realised this at the end of the 19th century and early 20th century; Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, potentially Hitler, Mussolini, Evola. These were all people who were looking for alternatives to fill the void that Christianity could no longer fill. Me personally, I think the reason for that is because Christianity was simply not made for Europeans but Semitic peoples, just like Islam. So Europeans need a religion that reflects their own racial characteristics more. Many Europeans on the right are turning to forms of Neo-Paganism so I wouldn't be surpised if that became a major religion in the west someday.Christianity is lost, but I am still coping with the fact that it will come back. But I know for a fact it wont, especially with western influence and (((catholics))) taking over Eastern land and putting the younger generation through brainwashing media influence. Maybe a collapse is needed to wake up and make Christianity rise up again without soy idiots polluting the religion. But the conclusion still is we will be ruled under Satanists. But yea, Christianity is lost and I am looking for other options even though I will some day turn back to my Christian roots.", "Ethnic Natsoc said:A society can only be tradionalist and patriarchal if its leaders and people wish it to be and actively fight against subversion. Religion will not defend you against degeneracy, it can be used to teach people a sense of right and wrong but in the end morals need to be enforced by a non-religious entity (like the government).A Society will not defend itself against subversion, and degeneracy unless there is a solid foundation to base it on. I agree that Religion itself cannot do it, you need a government or system to back it up. You do need a Government to hold it up, however again if you imbue this Government with Religious tier tenants, almost as if the Government itself becomes a part of the Religion, this is how you gurantee its longevity and success.Ethnic Natsoc said:I think Christianity is too far gone now, Europeans on the right already realised this at the end of the 19th century and early 20th century; Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, potentially Hitler, Mussolini, Evola. These were all people who were looking for alternatives to fill the void that Christianity could no longer fill.Hitler specifically, and the third Reich were going to do exactly what I said, even tho some of them were less fond of Christianity than others, there was a plan for a Unified Protestant Reich Church.Some people like to pretend they were avidly pagan or they were just being deceptive, but I mean I can pull up quotes nearing the end of the war, aswell.Ethnic Natsoc said:Me personally, I think the reason for that is because Christianity was simply not made for Europeans but Semitic peoples, just like Islam. So Europeans need a religion that reflects their own racial characteristics more.That's not true depending on what your definition of Semetic is. Because for example, Galileans originated from Europe. A Judahite/Descendant of the Tribe of Judah. What we know of as Jews today have nothing to do genetically with Galileans, or the 12 Tribes mentioned in the bible, they're descendants of Canaanites, Edomites, and Babylonians, and they actually originate from the south of Israel. The genetic difference between Jews, and Galileans is the difference between a European and a Middle Easterner. Even Romans who had no reason to describe Jesus this way, a Galilean man, described him as this, If you ever meet him [Yeshua] you will know him. While he is nothing but a man, there is something about him that distinguishes him from every other man. He is the picture of his mother, only he has not her smooth, round face. His hair is a little more golden than hers, though it is as much from sunburn as anything else. He is tall, and his shoulders are a little drooped; his visage is thin and of a swarthy complexion, though this is from exposure. His eyes are large and a soft blue, and rather dull and heavy....' This Jew [Nazarite] is convinced that he is the Messiah of the world. ...this was the same person that was born of the virgin in Bethlehem some twenty-six years before...I don't really know of any Semites that fit that description, do you?Ethnic Natsoc said:Many Europeans on the right are turning to forms of Neo-Paganism so I wouldn't be surpised if that became a major religion in the west someday.The Modern pagan meme is part of the downfall of Europeans. Most Paganism is just Atheism, very very minor spirituality or values inherent to it, tons of rampant degeneracy, no core foundation, is typically from the same branch of infiltrators that brought (((siegefags)))Full of degenerate Sex Havers, Drug Users, Communist Sympathizers, Jewish Satanists, etc. People from the past who actually believed in ancient nordic mythology would be disgusted by what these larpers have turned it into.", "Romello Gaghan 2 said:Many Muslims are extremely moderate and don't take their religion too seriously anyway, same as Christians in the West. They are more loyal to whatever customs are popular at the time than strictly to Islam. This is the way of most religions, in fact. Civilization and technological progress always dilutes religious authenticity, always.most muslims in Albania give a fuck about religion, they eat pork and drink beeralso the sons of muslims immigrants in europe don't follow the quran correctly: most of them have a social life like westerns (binge drinking, going to clubs, being polygamous for chads and stacies)", "Brak123 said:most muslims in Albania give a fuck about religion, they eat pork and drink beeralso the sons of muslims immigrants in europe don't follow the quran correctly: most of them have a social life like westerns (binge drinking, going to clubs, being polygamous for chads and stacies)Lots of clean shaven Muslims too I've noticed.", "BrendioEEE said:Some people like to pretend they were avidly pagan or they were just being deceptive, but I mean I can pull up quotes nearing the end of the war, aswell.I'm not saying Hitler himself was a Pagan, he was even annoyed at certain times by the attempts at Pagan revivals of members such as Himmler. He was most likely a deist or agnostic, based on quotes from Hitler's Table Talk. I'm saying that because the way he talks about religion in those quotes reminds me of my own views on spirituality and such. I am almost sure he did not regard himself as a Christian but simply saw the religion as an useful tool to unify the German people and combat degeneracy.This page contains some excerpts from the book: Quotations:Originally, religion was merely a prop for human communities. It was a means, not an end in itself. It’s only gradually that it became transformed in this direction, with the object of maintaining the rule of the priests, who can live only to the detriment of society collectively.An educated man retains the sense of the mysteries of nature and bows before the unknowable. An uneducated man, on the other hand, runs the risk of going over to atheism (which is a return to the state of the animal) as soon as he perceives that the State, in sheer opportunism, is making use of false ideas in the matter of religion, whilst in other fields it bases everything on pure science.In any case, we shall learn to become familiar with the laws by which life is governed, and acquaintance with the laws of nature will guide us on the path of progress. As for the ‘why’ of these laws, we shall never know anything about it. A thing is so, and our understanding cannot conceive of other schemes.Fundamentally in everyone there is the feeling for this almighty, which we call ‘God’ (that is to say, the dominion of natural laws throughout the whole universe). The priests, who have always succeeded in exploiting this feeling, threaten punishments for the man who refuses to accept the creed they impose.The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity. Bolshevism practices a lie of the same nature, when it claims to bring liberty to men, whereas in reality it seeks only to enslave them. In the ancient world, the relations between men and gods were founded on an instinctive respect. It was a world enlightened by the idea of tolerance. Christianity was the first creed in the world to exterminate its adversaries in the name of love. Its keynote is intolerance.It seems to me that nothing would be more foolish than to reestablish the worship of Wotan. Our old mythology had ceased to be viable when Christianity implanted itself. Nothing dies unless it is moribund. At that period the ancient world was divided between the systems of philosophy and the worship of idols. It’s not desirable that the whole of humanity should be stultified — and the only way of getting rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.One may ask whether the disappearance of Christianity would entail the disappearance of belief in God. That’s not to be desired. The notion of divinity gives most men the opportunity to concretize the feeling they have of supernatural realities. Why should we destroy this wonderful power they have of incarnating the feeling for the divine that is within them?I envisage the future, therefore, as follows: First of all, to each man his private creed.BrendioEEE said:The Modern pagan meme is part of the downfall of Europeans. Most Paganism is just Atheism, very very minor spirituality or values inherent to it, tons of rampant degeneracy, no core foundation, is typically from the same branch of infiltrators that brought (((siegefags)))Yeah, a lot of Pagans view Paganism as a purely materialistic religion and think that the Gods are supposed to be nothing more than symbolism for the elements of nature. Others get into it purely for the aesthetic value. They basically go into Paganism with the mindset of what an Abrahamist views as Paganism.But I don't think all Pagans are like that, there are people who do their research and realise it should be treated as an actual worldview, like all religions, and not just as some form of historical reconstructionism. If you want to be serious about practicing it, you need to look at the spiritual foundations it was based on and not the pretty statues and rituals. That goes for all religions of course, there's lots of westerners who convert to Buddhism or Islam as well because of its 'exotic' aesthetic. If you want to look at a modern Pagan who does take his faith quite serious, I recommend a youtube channel called Survive the Jive who does videos on Indo-European religion and similar topics.Brak123 said:most muslims in Albania give a fuck about religion, they eat pork and drink beeralso the sons of muslims immigrants in europe don't follow the quran correctly: most of them have a social life like westerns (binge drinking, going to clubs, being polygamous for chads and stacies)Yeah, it's quite ironic, I'm not Muslim yet my lifestyle is more 'correct' according to Islamic law than that of a lot of people who do consider themselves Muslims. Most Muslims are massive hypocrites who constantly talk shit about the non-believers while breaking every rule of their own faith. That's what you get when a religion is mostly spread among low-IQ mongrels.", "Brak123 said:Istanbul gay pride: 125145 125146 125147 125148the government has tried to ban the gay pride, but the pride marches go onBro, we atleast tried.", "this is only a cope, there are not Western Muslim-majority countries and the tiny minorities of Muslim in Western countries is seen as a threat, there is no way to impose Sharia and however even in Muslim countries feminism and modernity hit, therichkidsofteheran are an example of this", "Secular muslims are as much muslims as fag worshiping christians are christians. The Gulf states are still based in comparison and they would not be as rich as they are now if they were feminist because foids would ruin everything then.", "brutal, its over.", "mylifeistrash said:islam = the instagram whores sometimes have a hijaball men are cucks and will shit on their religion / culture for hairy used up cum filled infected pussy" ]
Question for mods
[ "I know this website is 1 day old but will there be gifs? Gifs will make it a lot betterEDIT: Also one suggestion... Make Avatars bigger and they will have a lot more value.. Make the website image incuding tbh tbh", "torujo said:Legit it's awesome. Mods should make a thread on what gifs this website needs tbh tbhI hope they add cage tbhtbt", "Weed said:I know this website is 1 day old but will there be gifs? Gifs will make it a lot betterEDIT: Also one suggestion... Make Avatars bigger and they will have a lot more value.. Make the website image incuding tbh tbhOne of the things I never liked about lookism is that nearly half of the posts are one of the same 10 or so reaction gifs that get posted over and over.I do agree with making avatars bigger.  I think 200x200 would be a good maximum size.", "Ryo Hazuki said:Weed said:I know this website is 1 day old but will there be gifs? Gifs will make it a lot betterEDIT: Also one suggestion... Make Avatars bigger and they will have a lot more value.. Make the website image incuding tbh tbhOne of the things I never liked about lookism is that nearly half of the posts are one of the same 10 or so reaction gifs that get posted over and over.I do agree with making avatars bigger.  I think 200x200 would be a good maximum size.Make gifs usage limited ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯. People will use them anyways IMO because they make things a bit more entertaining.", "Based necropost", "don't talk to mods they are trannys and will move their 100% incel post to the sewers", "Free Weed " ]
VentingIs hard to be ephebophile of high culture
[ "Is easier to be ephebophile of low culture. Just go for stupid village girls with daddy issues, juts use them for sex, just use their love for getting sex. Its still hard, and dangerous, but in news constantly are featured not very good looking men even 40+, who seduced teen girlsBut is much more harder to be ephebophile of high culture, looking for teen girl who could be for serious relations, who is also cultured and interesting as personality, and wanting her love as value of its own, not just for getting something. Degenerates would say mature wahmen are interesting personalities, but that is not true, femoid's personality value decreases with each dick taken, and their are mostly wrong personalities,unplayfull and conformistic, social cunts, thats is boring, ir much more interesting undeveloped personality of teen girl, because it gives hope of them becoming right creature. They failing, and it is sad and painfull to see, them turning into ordinary roasties, but still can be hope. With mature femoid all hopes are lost, boring uninspiring creaturesThat was word for today, now going not internet again (gaming)", "You are a low T cuck if you would not go for cute adorable lolis ngl.", "humbert humbertmaxxing?", "Napoleon de Geso said:But is much more harder to be ephebophile of high culture, looking for teen girl who could be for serious relationsEphebophiles do not look for teen girls, they are homosexuals who look for teen boys:If you want a relationship with a teen girl that is hebephilia not ephebophiliadon't mix them up or you're literally making yourself a faggot", "Napoleon ", "Lv99_BixNood said:Napoleon Everyone above you in that thread got nuked ", "SoySupreme said:Everyone above you in that thread got nuked ", "Free them", "It was much easier to be a ephebophile a few decades ago, times change… for the worse " ]
BlackpillFemale Anorexia
[ "Femoids would rather starve themselves to thisfor Chad, than be fat and happy with a sub 5 male.(This example is particularly egregious since she's conventionally attractive anyway.)", "What Chad wants a holocaust Stacy anyways", "She has more smv than me.", "Eskimocel said:She has more smv than me.volcel if you wouldnt", "i remember that whore back when I was following jewtube drama. Anyways volcel if you wouldnt", "wereqryan said:Your obsessive coping with anorexia and leanmaxing is doing you no good. Same with @AsiaCelIf you don't have the right bone structure, reducing fat won't work.You don't know if you have the bone structure if you've never been at least lean-ish. I know it's over for me regardless of how lean I am, but that doesn't mean it is for everyone, and I hate being fat anyway.", "angrycurrycel said:i remember that whore back when I was following jewtube drama. Anyways volcel if you wouldntI would be afraid of killing her with the lightest thrust. god damn she looks frail", "im about that skinny as well", "Eugenia Clooney! My favorite twig.She's very snappy!!", "I think she starved herself on purpose for jewtube money.", "The lengths people will go to", "wereqryan said:Your obsessive coping with anorexia and leanmaxing is doing you no good. Same with @AsiaCelIf you don't have the right bone structure, reducing fat won't work.Call it a cope but I've been seeing progression on the anorexia maxxing. In 2018 I was 160lbs and had a full cheek and invisible ramus (jawline is visible though) and reduced to 140s lbs my ramus begins to appear and cheeks darked. Its at this point I developed bullmia and my progression is stalled hard.I want to go further to 120s lbs to see what I would be getting, if it's same as 140s, meh. If my face gets even leaner and more 'bonely' then great!.In my case, it is working for me and I'm happy with the results.", "Spoiled femoid huwhitey. Let them rot! The last race is the German. You created your own grave.", "angrycurrycel said:Anyways volcel if you wouldntI'd be pretty afraid of doing that tbh, she looks like she's made of glass. Still would try eh.", "wereqryan said:Your obsessive coping with anorexia and leanmaxing is doing you no good. Same with @AsiaCelIf you don't have the right bone structure, reducing fat won't work.True. I can confirm that with my low bmi.", "God sluts like her literally freak the shit out of me, I find her more repulsive than bed ridden landwhales", "I would want to fuck her and be able to wrap my hands round her arms and they might just snap but who cares; it just means she can't call the police so easily.", "She'd have more SMV if she weighed more. I hate people making stupid decisions like that.RegisterUserName said:I would want to fuck her and be able to wrap my hands round her arms and they might just snap but who cares; it just means she can't call the police so easily.", "KingOfRome said:Femoids would rather starve themselves to thisfor Chad, than be fat and happy with a sub 5 male.(This example is particularly egregious since she's conventionally attractive anyway.)Oh yes; quite true. Observe:Your browser is not able to display this video.She gave her body to a tall Hispanic man with several girlfriends on the side." ]
Experiment[Stratmaxxing] - Anybody Ever Try Debtmaxxing/Saviourmaxxing?
[ "Continuation Of This Thread - Level(Definitely a strat for guys who have a oneitis, I think that shit is cucked blue pilled BS, but hey this could work for you, there's obvious risk though, as you'll see)I know like two guys who have gotten GF's from scenarios like these, they just weren't staged like this will be, the first one is still dating (I think, haven't talked to them in years). The other one is a girl I knew (from a previous job) who has a guy friend who earned a friends with benefits position because she trusts him so much due to something like this, and no he is not a Chad or Tyrone, he's average looking (he is actually her EX, they dated and broke up, he saved her from a bad situation in her last relationships before they started dating, she kept him as side dick just because JFL)Lets say there's this foid you've had your eye on at work or some random foid and you know where she works or the route she takes home, if you have some crazy enough friends (I know, impossible for some of you), or you are willing to hire two low level thugsYou can pay them to harass that specific woman on her way home, slap her up a bit, feel her up, make her think she's going to get raped and robbed, and then when you show up out of the blue (as planned) they let you fight/scare them off (be realistic and plan it out though, if you are short and frail have a steel pipe or something in hand, so them fleeing looks at least plausible, better yet if you have a gun or can get your hands on one/ one of theirs reveal it with her looking at you and she'll see them run off)Make sure and advise them to take the cash she has and leave her jewelry, credit and debit cards, etcMake sure they wear masks and don't display any identifying marks (birth marks, tattoos, etc) or their personal jewelry (you want two generic cookie cutter thugs that she would not even bother reporting because she herself can't remember anything distinguishable)You could pay those guys $100 each to do 5% of what they do on a daily basis, plus they get to keep and split the cash of what they took from her, depending on where she works, it could be a good trade for themYou swoop in, help her up, walk her home/ travel with her (she won't refuse, because she feels safe around you, now you know where she lives), and here is THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTYOU OFFER HER YOUR NUMBER AND TELL HER TO CALL YOU IF SHE FEELS SCARED, OR WORRIED OR JUST WANTS TO TALKThat's the jedi mind trick of the entire debacle, you've essentially indirectly asked her for her number, but she will internalize the act as her needing your number and wanting your number and attention, more likely than not she will call, and from then on you can communicate, I'd say talk with her, but only when she messages you, never message to ask how she's doing unless she is being very honest with you about her mental state and how scared she is (make sure it becomes something common), let her do the messaging, it needs to be clear that SHE IS THE NEEDY HALF OF THE RELATIONSHIP, you want her to become DEPENDENT on your emotional supportAsk her out on a date after two weeks of communicationTBH I've always planned on doing something like this, I had this friend who I joked around with saying that we could do this for eachother and he agreed in a manner where he seemed quite serious, but I don't even have a target, if I did I'd probably contact him tbh JFLOf course you can't do this with a 10/10 and you are a 5 and expect this to work, it will only be likely to work with someone close to or within your looks league, Id say 1 above your looks league maximumThis strategy is basically leveraging someone feeling indebted to you, to get them to focus less on your looks, and more of what you did for them, the halo effect of being someones hero is almost as strong as the halo effect of being physically attractive, it could probably help a lot, even for some of you who want to get your oneitis.", "Would 100% work...for Chad. For incel, “ewwww get away from me, i didn’t ask for your help”", "VirtueSignaller said:Ellsworth said:Would 100% work...for Chad.For incel, “ewwww get away from me, i didn’t ask for your help”Your posts reminded me to add in the personal experience I have that led to me making this thread, I guess I should have known I'd get responses like thisBlkPillPres said:I know like two guys who have gotten GF's from scenarios like these, they just weren't staged like this will be, the first one is still dating (I think, haven't talked to them in years). The other one is a girl I knew (from a previous job) who has a guy friend who earned a friends with benefits position because she trusts him so much due to something like this, and no he is not a Chad or Tyrone, he's average looking (he is actually her EX, they dated and broke up, he saved her from a bad situation in her last relationships before they started dating, she kept him as side dick just because JFL)", "great way to get metood", "NoMoreSlaving said:great way to get metoodHow?I seriously thing a lot of you guys have your entire framework for how life works based on memes and not actual experiencesDurrrr haven't you heard of MeToo dudeI can't blame you though, you are probably living in america, a different culture, so maybe it is likely you'd get meetoo'd using this stratIDK what to tell you, don't be too persistent then, that's why I said in the strat:BlkPillPres said:I'd say talk with her, but only when she messages you, never message to ask how she's doing, let her do the messaging, it needs to be clear that SHE IS THE NEEDY HALF OF THE RELATIONSHIP, you want her to become DEPENDENT on your emotional support", "I thought you had gotten a Stratocaster ngl.", "BlkPillPres said:Your posts reminded me to add in the personal experience I have that led to me making this thread, I guess I should have known I'd get responses like thisYes and this extends to just being in the right place at the right time. Average men get with above average women just because they work together or they share the same social circle.", "Darth Cialis said:I thought you had gotten a Stratocaster ngl.?????VirtueSignaller said:Yes and this extends to just being in the right place at the right time. Average men get with above average women just because they work together or they share the same social circle.Exactly, so fuck the rules, don't wait for the right place and time, CREATE ITLet me repeat, i have no delusions of this working for some 2/10 truecel, I hope nobody is foolish enough to think I mean this, I'm already expecting a reply from some guy saying - I have X genetic condition and I'm only 5ft, you are a blue pilled coper this would never workMy Response:No, it just won't work for you, what would even make you think this was directed towards you", "BlkPillPres said:?????Exactly, so fuck the rules, don't wait for the right place and time, CREATE ITLet me repeat, i have no delusions of this working for some 2/10 truecel, I hope nobody is foolish enough to think I mean this, I'm already expecting a reply from some guy saying - I have X genetic condition and I'm only 5ft, you are a blue pilled coper this would never workMy Response:No, it just won't work for you, what would even make you think this was directed towards youI fully intend to create my own destiny. I don't subscribe to the LDAR lifestyle.", "Based Superman pill", "BlkPillPres said:Continuation Of This Thread - Level(Definitely a strat for guys who have a oneitis, I think that shit is cucked blue pilled BS, but hey this could work for you, there's obvious risk though, as you'll see)I know like two guys who have gotten GF's from scenarios like these, they just weren't staged like this will be, the first one is still dating (I think, haven't talked to them in years). The other one is a girl I knew (from a previous job) who has a guy friend who earned a friends with benefits position because she trusts him so much due to something like this, and no he is not a Chad or Tyrone, he's average looking (he is actually her EX, they dated and broke up, he saved her from a bad situation in her last relationships before they started dating, she kept him as side dick just because JFL)Lets say there's this foid you've had your eye on at work or some random foid and you know where she works or the route she takes home, if you have some crazy enough friends (I know, impossible for some of you), or you are willing to hire two low level thugsYou can pay them to harass that specific woman on her way home, slap her up a bit, feel her up, make her think she's going to get raped and robbed, and then when you show up out of the blue (as planned) they let you fight/scare them off (be realistic and plan it out though, if you are short and frail have a steel pipe or something in hand, so them fleeing looks at least plausible, better yet if you have a gun or can get your hands on one/ one of theirs reveal it with her looking at you and she'll see them run off)Make sure and advise them to take the cash she has and leave her jewelry, credit and debit cards, etcMake sure they wear masks and don't display any identifying marks (birth marks, tattoos, etc) or their personal jewelry (you want two generic cookie cutter thugs that she would not even bother reporting because she herself can't remember anything distinguishable)You could pay those guys $100 each to do 5% of what they do on a daily basis, plus they get to keep and split the cash of what they took from her, depending on where she works, it could be a good trade for themYou swoop in, help her up, walk her home/ travel with her (she won't refuse, because she feels safe around you, now you know where she lives), and here is THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTYOU OFFER HER YOUR NUMBER AND TELL HER TO CALL YOU IF SHE FEELS SCARED, OR WORRIED OR JUST WANTS TO TALKThat's the jedi mind trick of the entire debacle, you've essentially indirectly asked her for her number, but she will internalize the act as her needing your number and wanting your number and attention, more likely than not she will call, and from then on you can communicate, I'd say talk with her, but only when she messages you, never message to ask how she's doing unless she is being very honest with you about her mental state and how scared she is (make sure it becomes something common), let her do the messaging, it needs to be clear that SHE IS THE NEEDY HALF OF THE RELATIONSHIP, you want her to become DEPENDENT on your emotional supportAsk her out on a date after two weeks of communicationTBH I've always planned on doing something like this, I had this friend who I joked around with saying that we could do this for eachother and he agreed in a manner where he seemed quite serious, but I don't even have a target, if I did I'd probably contact him tbh JFLOf course you can't do this with a 10/10 and you are a 5 and expect this to work, it will only be likely to work with someone close to or within your looks league, Id say 1 above your looks league maximumThis strategy is basically leveraging someone feeling indebted to you, to get them to focus less on your looks, and more of what you did for them, the halo effect of being someones hero is almost as strong as the halo effect of being physically attractive, it could probably help a lot, even for some of you who want to get your oneitis.brilliant planid recommend you take it to the next level and enact out a scripted fight, females of the animal kingdom love when 2 alpha males clash, establish your dominance by having your thug/friend lose the fake fight and then have him scurry away from your domineering stature.A hero is every maidens wish, become the stallion of her fantasy, the gallant knight to which she yearns in her Dream....women also love the theatrics, make sure the scripted fight is outlandish as possible, id recommend studying wwe moves and chinese martial arts movies.to seal the deal, id also recommend writing a script so you can monologue your triumphant victory, remember you have to present yourself like a warrior prince that is sent by the gods.ideally it should be something like this from beginning to endthug1: stupid whore give us your bagthug2: takes out knife (prop/fake knife). better do as he saysgirl of interest: begins to complyyou: charges towards them from the horizon (the horizon is very important, it sets the scenery) (note: be sure you are dressed appropriately, preferably a suit of some sort, women love men in suits)you: SCUMS! extorting a lady, DO YOU HAVE NO SHAME (then followed by you standing in silence heroically)thug2: oh we have a hero, raises knife and points it towards youthug1: holy shit do you know who that is? proceeds to run away while tripping over himselfyou: @ thug2 better follow your friends lead, verminthug2: i-i-its you..but thats not p-possible visibly tremplbing from head to toe (have him pee himself for optimal effect), then charges towards youyou: if that is your choice then so be itthen the scripted fight ensue, it should last for 5 minutes at least, here you gotta display all the wwe moves and Chinese martial arts moves you studied, you also have to display your overwhelming strength, like your finishing move where you punch him and he fly back 10 feet (have him jump backwards)then when the fight is finished thug2 crawls away (yes crawls, remember your moves are so powerful he no longer has the strength to even stand)you: it is dangerous for a lady to be a lone in this part of town/city/whatever, let me escort you homegirl: eyes watering, and looking up towards you as if you are Herculesyou: Those scums are but a drop in the ocean, filth that reflects the sins of humanity, you vanquish 1 shadow, and 5 will be birthed in its place. Humans Dreams of a utopia, a paradise where joys are eternal, the foolish Delusion of a deviant creature. humans descended from heaven, for their touch marred the stars. falling from gods grace, the lesson was learnt, but eventually forgotten, with time the blessing of the lord eroded from the hearts of man, and finally the calling of god...can no longer be heard.", "Delusion said:brilliant planid recommend you take it to the next level and enact out a scripted fight Up to this point I could already tell you were trollingIf you aren't (and you are) its obvious that isn't realistic, anybody can scare some guys away with a gun, fighting some guys off is a different thing there's a lot of room for error and you're leaving too much to chance then, short and sweet is the better play, you don't need her to think you are a movie action hero, you need her to feel indebted to you saving her, that's it.", "It is boring as always and useless ...", "Wouldn't it be easier to just rape her together with the thugs?", "SirIncel said:Wouldn't it be easier to just rape her together with the thugs?1. Yeah but that's not the point of the strategy, the entire point of stratmaxxing is it isn't easy, its a fringe loophole to try and ascend/get what you want, its a strategy2. If I'm going to risk the jail time of rape, why the fuck would I share the rape?", "SirIncel said:Wouldn't it be easier to just rape her together with the thugs?try it and see how it works out for you kekonly strictly in minecraft though", "Yo muthafcuka" ]
Complete guide to escortcelling
[ "So as I promised in another thread, after the demands of some fellowcels, I post this guide for people who want to escortcel. I will try to make this guide as detailed but as clear as possible. I have been escortcelling for the past 2 years. I actually fucked 3 of them 3 years back when I was on an Intern to a foreign university but most others I have fucked in the last 2 years. I have fucked 21 of them till now. I don't do it very often now as I only do it on vacations as I have explained belowPS: If you don't want to escortcel or are against this practice, its fine. This guide is not for you. No hate please.Q) What is escortcelling?A) Escortcelling is fucking femoids in exchange of moneyQ) Why should I escortcel?A) For a number of reasons. One of them is if you are an incel who wants to have sex.Q) But it isn't morally right.A) Nigga, you serious?Q) But hookers are dirtyA) A hooker, unless you pick one from the street who smokes meth all day, is probably as clean as an average girl you would be willing to fuck in a bar. Most of themdo checkups regularly and are as concerned about their safety as you. Q) But what about STDs?A) Use a condom nigga. STDs from escortcelling is a bluepill meme propagated by normancucks and femoids so that you are forced to get into cuck relationships with landwhales instead of fucking a 8/10 stacy in exchange for money.Q) But I don't fear other STDs, I am afraid of HIV. That is too much of a riskA) Everything in life has some risk associated with it. You can die in an accident as soon as you walk out tomorrow. But catching HIV is very very rare. To give you an idea these are the chances of catching HIV if you have sex with an infected personWhat this means is that, HIV transmission for lets say, insertive vaginal sex (inserting the penis into the vagina) was estimated to be 0.04%, equivalent to 1 transmission per 2,500 exposures. For the mentalcels this is roughly saying that to get infected with HIV from an infected person you would need to fuck her pussy 2500 times on average. This is when you are fucking an HIV infected person without a condom. When you are using a condom, which are said to be effective 98-99% of the time and considering the factor that the femoid may or may not even have HIV you can imagine how low the odds are. I am not encouraging anyone to do bareback sex. I am just saying that the STD meme is norman bullshit which is overexxagerated.Q) But what about oral sex? I can get HIV if she sucks me?A) There is no documentaed case of HIV transmitted by oral sex so far. The conditions to be met to get HIV via oral are too muchQ) But people have said that they tried escortcelling and the sex was badA) They just met a bad hooker. Being an escort is a skill. Some escort girls are so good that they make you feel like a king, you almost fall in love. While other ones might shatter your belief in sex. I have met both types. Novices are usually more prone to run into the second type.Q) But she doesn't love me, she is just fucking me for moneyA) If validation is why you are visiting an escortgirl then you should not do so. You should instead put your money in tinder pro and set your location to Bangkok, that will give you validation.Q) How is the sex with a hooker?A) As I said earlier it depends on the girl. Some of them are greaaat. You will never forget the sex you had. SOme of them are shit and you won't like to remember the sex you had. I have met both types.Q) How do they look?A) They come in all types. I have definitely fucked lookswise 8-9/10 escortgirls. You can always choose.Q) How do I get a hooker?A) This depends on the place. Usually these are the optionsPermium escort website: You can find these by googling London Escorts if you live in London.Pros: Most of the time these websites have reviews of each escort so you would get better serviceSince these escorts are part of the agency they won't do bullshit as they risk losing their jobThese agencies are usually quite professional and for a newbie this is the best optionCons:Usually more expensiveCraigslist or Backpage: You can find escorts on Craigslist or BackpagePros:Cheaper than Premium escortsYou can get independent escortsCons:Quality of service isn't guaranteed You have to be more cautious (I live in Asia and I use Backpage but never had a problem, just don't be a stupidcel)BrothelsPros:CheapestCons:Usually the girls are not that good lookingQuality of service is usually mechanicalMost brothel's ambiance is not that goodVacationingThis is my preferred way of doing it. Whenever I take a holiday I usually go to Thailand or Philippines and fuck cheap hookers over there. Its a different scene in Thailand and one post isn't enough for that. They usually have many strip clubs and bars where girls work who you can take to your hotels after talking to them. Its more informal and fun. This website is dedicated to the escortcelling scene in ThailandQ) What's the complete process?A) If you are new to escortcelling you should go for option 1, that is escort websites. They won't disappoint you and are more professional. You will need to spend more money though.Once you book an escort ask her to come to your place. You can either go to hers or call her. I usually like calling them to my place or asking them to meet in a public place and then take them to my place after getting them drunk. Your place is the safer option for obvious reasons. Once she is at your place take out your condom, fuck her, cum in her mouth and ask her to swallow it. Give her the money and then she would leave.This is a great website which covers the escortcelling scene in most countries and major cities. When I first started escortcelling I used this website. The guy replies to all comments.If you have any other questions, shoot them.", "How did you feel after it happened? I'm scared that experiencing something i can never genuinly have might ruin me.", "With my luck I would contact every single possible STD from my very first escort.", "No amount of prostitution is going to fill the emptiness and lack of genuine human connection and feelings in your soul. Being with someone who truly loves you and cares for you as a fellow human being - for who you are - is priceless. But I digress, if you're into prostitution, then by all means go ahead. However know you will only further plunge yourself into a meaningless existence driven by self-loathe and temporary instant gratification. Think about how you'll feel about it 30-40 years from now when you're old and on your death bed.", "That's why you use rubbers, brahs. I recommend sticking to escort agencies.And there's a fair chance you won't be able to get it up due to performance anxiety and lack of suitable validation. But escortceling is still better than nothing. I probably would have gone ER otherwise.", "How do I get an escort if it's illegal where I live? Also how much do you usually pay for a hooker?", "sharkb8 said:How did you feel after it happened? I'm scared that experiencing something i can never genuinly have might ruin me.My first experience with a masseuse was so good that was the reason I started escortcelling. If that experience was bad I would probably never be an escortcel. After the sex my feelings depend on the kind of sex that happened. If it was bad, I feel bit annoyed. If it was good I feel happy. I can understand your dilemma. I just don't think about it that seriously. After all the dating field is not level. Not to mention femoids can fuck whenever they want. No harm in escortcelling.fagotonabike said:With my luck I would contact every single possible STD from my very first escort.kekpisapfa said:No amount of prostitution is going to fill the emptiness and lack of genuine human connection and feelings in your soul. Being with someone who truly loves you and cares for you as a fellow human being - for who you are - is priceless. But I digress, if you're into prostitution, then by all means go ahead. However know you will only further plunge yourself into a meaningless existence driven by self-loathe and temporary instant gratification. Think about how you'll feel about it 30-40 years from now when you're old and on your death bed.As I said, it isn't a replacement of a relationship. I treat it as a sport. I don't agree about the death bed part though. In all honesty I would think about my first escort experience with the Japanese masseuse which was the best 1 hour of my life so far.BlackPill47 said:That's why you use rubbers, brahs. I recommend sticking to escort agencies.And there's a fair chance you won't be able to get it up due to performance anxiety and lack of suitable validation. But escortceling is still better than nothing. I probably would have gone ER otherwise.I agree man. I can't say about the getting it up part though. That only happens with a lazy escort who also isn't good looking, kekCrustaciouse said:How do I get an escort if it's illegal where I live? Also how much do you usually pay for a hooker?I added a link to a website at the end of the post. You should visit it to see more details. He might have covered your area. In my area it is legal so you should get in touch with an escort buddy. Don't do anything illegal though. Cost again depends on the place and the type of escort.", ">tfw poorcel", "torujo said:>tfw poorcelOVER", "Are they offended if you demand they thoroughly wash their asshole and cunt beforehand?", "Damn that review site is great. Cheers", "existentialhack said:Are they offended if you demand they thoroughly wash their asshole and cunt beforehand?You need to be polite, just ask them to shower and you should take a shower too. If she is offended the sex would be bad which you don't want. In Thailand they all take shower and wash the said areas well themselves.", "11gaijin said:You need to be polite, just ask them to shower and you should take a shower too. If she is offended the sex would be bad which you don't want. In Thailand they all take shower and wash the said areas well themselves.A shower isn't good enough. A shower doesn't clean those areas, even a bath doesn't, and I don't care about body sweat, but the cunt and asshole get disgusting. Poop makes me vomit. I want to experience going down on a girl and I want her to be immaculately clean and shiny. Also, I don't see the point of having sex with a condom. It's completely pointless to me. So I'd have to sort out STI testing and shit, and pay extra for the privilege.", "existentialhack said:A shower isn't good enough. A shower doesn't clean those areas, even a bath doesn't, and I don't care about body sweat, but the cunt and asshole get disgusting. Poop makes me vomit. I want to experience going down on a girl and I want her to be immaculately clean and shiny. Also, I don't see the point of having sex with a condom. It's completely pointless to me. So I'd have to sort out STI testing and shit, and pay extra for the privilege.Yeah so just ask them to clean it well. Do you want to rim her ass too? Why do you talk about poop? Sex without condom with a hooker is playing Russian Roulette, don't do it. You can use extra thin condoms which are more expensive but which feel like bareback.Hikage-best-knaifu said:Damn that review site is great. CheersYeah man, cheers", " went to an escort after reading this site soooo many years ago, good reading and goes over what you need to know,,sorry for the terrible 90's internet formatting but thats the era it was written in hahagood luck!", "A spot on post. I myself am escortcel and have been for a long time. Although the professional sex industry is a bit different in the UK and most of Europe than it is for Americels. In the UK its legal to sell and pay for sex. Brothels are illegal (technically). Solicitation i.e kerb crawling is mostly illegal although the police sanction red light zones in some areas. Although most of the sex trade in on the internet these days. IndependentsThere are independent girls who will either have their own website or have a profile on Adultwork. Generally the girls who have their own websites are the cream of the crop. Adultwork has some quality girls but also some thieves, druggies and skanks. There are one or two other places like vivastreet and backpage where girls advertise. Adultwork has feedback and field reports unlike the other two. AgenciesMost big cities have an escort agency or two. There are dozens in London. These are again a bit of a mixed bag. Oddly enough working for an agency is legal but operating one is not. The ones which operate near me seem to have Spanish based call centres that divert the local numbers and they only have drivers and fixers over here. Lots of foreign girls. I used to use one run by a local woman who was a legendary prozza back in the day. All her girls were local and absolutely top notch. There was another one more expensive but also had quality girls. They are both gone now. I think the margins have been squeezed and its to much hassle now for decent providers. BrothelsThen there are the parlors or brothels. Even small towns will probably have one operating. There are half a dozen operating where i live at any one time. I've seen a couple come and go. Normally what happens is they open up and operate successfully. Then they either get noticed by their neighbours who being nosy buggers complain to the police and they get busted. Often times down in London they have made a show of dragging the girls they arrested there in front of the cameras. The most successful one i heard of around here operated in a building on an industrial estate so their neighbours never really doled them in. Problem was it got so popular they started having trouble there. The police got called out a few times. The straw that broke the camels back was a criminal gang abducted the owner and drove him around demanding a ransom payment of £500,000. So the police had to raid them and the owner got prosecuted by HMRC for tax evasion totaling several hundred thousand as well as prosecuted for profiting to the tune of £1.5 million from prostitution over 15 years. Even though the local police were well aware of its existence for most of that time. You get the massage parlors which offer happy endings and blow jobs. Often with foriegn girls. The seediest are the pop up brothels especially in the big cities. The Romanians are into this in a big way where they will rent a house of a subleter and then convert it into a brothel. A guy i know had this done to his property. He rented it out to what he thought was a nice family. Next thing the neighbour calls him up asking why the fuck he is running a brothel next door. He went through the courts to evict them and i joined him with the bailiffs for the eviction, we caught 2 random blokes stark naked with these Romanian slags. They had subdivided the house into 9 separate rooms and added two bathrooms and 3 showers. It took weeks and cost thousands to rip out what these cowboy builders did and i never was able to figure out exactly what they did to the electrics. Street walkersBottom of the barrel. Avoid at all costs. The police are always busting people for it and its the worst of the worst. Although some street walker trash have migrated into brothels and some of the sites for independents. There are various review services and forums which are devoted to reviewing sex workers. Looking on there can help you select a good one. Foreign Vs LocalI tend to prefer local women. My first time was actually with a lovely Czech girl. She was top notch. I've seen Czech, Polish, Russian and Hungarian as well as white native girls (an Aussie and a Canadian as well). The law says its illegal to use a girl who has been trafficked. With the foreign girls in some cases you cannot be 100% sure. The Czech girls are the best hands down. Although some of them don't have the best English. Over all there are plenty of great native girls available for a reasonable price and the odd top notch eastern European girl working independent. I think the foreign girls do hold the prices down a bit which haven't gone up that much since i started in 2009. ServicesI'm very vanilla. I tend to prefer GFE (Girlfriend Experience) so basically its as natural as possible. A quick chat. Paperwork out the way. Kissing. Caressing. Hugs. Get naked. Oral both ways. Typically without a condom. Protected sex in a few positions. Although a lot of the same girls who i do that with offer other services. Like Porn Star Experience which is some crazy stuff. Tie and tease. BDSM. Some advertise for pay pigs and don't provide sex at all. I honestly couldn't tell people much about that. PricesAs a rule of thumb if you want a 1hr incall of GFE (Girlfriend Experience) with a decent native girl you can expect to pay £150. Outcalls generally start at £170 for the hour. Some girls do both or only one. Then again there are girls I've seen who are pretty damn good at £100-£130 with most GFE services included. Some do half an hour for as little as £60. Some of the kinky stuff is more money. Extra hours are £100 after that. Overnight is generally £1000. Way beyond my budget. I did used to overnight with a girl i used to see when i worked and stayed up in Lincoln. She had an overnight special 8PM-8AM on her schedule with 7 hours sleep for £400. Everything costs more in London though, its harder to find decent service at national rates although i got lucky last time i went. There are also some girls with a really inflated opinion of themselves who will charge way over outside London. Some girls who are really high end also charge more. They cater to a different bit of the market and tend to go away with wealthy guys for holidays and trips and the bill probably runs into thousands for 3 weeks and they negotiate a price. STD'sThis is insanely overblown. Sufficed to say you are far less at risk of catching an infection from a professional sex worker than in the general population. They have a lower rate of infection (sex workers when you include all the dirty skanks and druggies which i have never gone near in 8 years) chances are the sex workers who have infections got them in their personal lives or sharing needles or going bare because they are dirty skanks. Generally penetrative sex is protected outside of a few risky individuals. Oral without isn't uncommon. A lot of girls i've seen don't do anal and i've never really wanted to try it myself. Most girls i see say they get tested every 1 or 2 weeks including oral swabs. The risks of infection from oral are minimal and the most likely transmission is probably going to be from man to woman and not the other way round. That being said any skin to skin contact has risks. Its so low as to not be a concern. I've never had a problem and i get checked every now and again just in case. Some advice for budding escortcelsDo your research. Get a phone specifically just for doing it with a number that can't be traced to you. You never know if you might come across a crazy girl or get caught up in blackmail. Nothing bad has ever happened to me, but i hear stories. Keep your wits about you. If something is to good to be true it probably is. Check reviews in multiple places. Ask around on the review forums. Some users are scammers and get fake reviews. Stick to agencies and independents. Use a condom. Oh and despite all the scorn poured on sex workers. They are professionals. No need to treat them like scum. Generally much nicer than the average roastie. I've always been treated with decency and respect and i always make sure to give it back. Other basic kindness is to be squeaky clean and minty fresh before you go and see one. No need to slack on hygiene just because you're paying. Some offer a shower at their place before and after. I always shower beforehand to save time i'm paying for. Some final adviceOne final thing i will say, is it really will help you to not go mad. It makes you long for an actual GF more though because you can only have the experience for an hour but you know other guys can get it a few times a week instead of once a month or every few months. It will clear up a lot of confusion about sex, there are even women who specialise in deflowering guys. If it is your first time find a girl who seems kind and understanding as opposed to the hottest girl you can find who may also be perfectly nice but could be a bit of a bitch or not be into it (you will be spoiled for choice for hot women) you can chase those later if you want.", "Some final adviceOne final thing i will say, is it really will help you to not go mad. It makes you long for an actual GF more though because you can only have the experience for an hour but you know other guys can get it a few times a week instead of once a month or every few months. It will clear up a lot of confusion about sex, there are even women who specialise in deflowering guys. If it is your first time find a girl who seems kind and understanding as opposed to the hottest girl you can find who may also be perfectly nice but could be a bit of a bitch or not be into it (you will be spoiled for choice for hot women) you can chase those later if you want.GREAT ADVISE!", "commander_zoidberg said:A spot on post. I myself am escortcel and have been for a long time. Although the professional sex industry is a bit different in the UK and most of Europe than it is for Americels. In the UK its legal to sell and pay for sex. Brothels are illegal (technically). Solicitation i.e kerb crawling is mostly illegal although the police sanction red light zones in some areas. Although most of the sex trade in on the internet these days. IndependentsThere are independent girls who will either have their own website or have a profile on Adultwork. Generally the girls who have their own websites are the cream of the crop. Adultwork has some quality girls but also some thieves, druggies and skanks. There are one or two other places like vivastreet and backpage where girls advertise. Adultwork has feedback and field reports unlike the other two. AgenciesMost big cities have an escort agency or two. There are dozens in London. These are again a bit of a mixed bag. Oddly enough working for an agency is legal but operating one is not. The ones which operate near me seem to have Spanish based call centres that divert the local numbers and they only have drivers and fixers over here. Lots of foreign girls. I used to use one run by a local woman who was a legendary prozza back in the day. All her girls were local and absolutely top notch. There was another one more expensive but also had quality girls. They are both gone now. I think the margins have been squeezed and its to much hassle now for decent providers. BrothelsThen there are the parlors or brothels. Even small towns will probably have one operating. There are half a dozen operating where i live at any one time. I've seen a couple come and go. Normally what happens is they open up and operate successfully. Then they either get noticed by their neighbours who being nosy buggers complain to the police and they get busted. Often times down in London they have made a show of dragging the girls they arrested there in front of the cameras. The most successful one i heard of around here operated in a building on an industrial estate so their neighbours never really doled them in. Problem was it got so popular they started having trouble there. The police got called out a few times. The straw that broke the camels back was a criminal gang abducted the owner and drove him around demanding a ransom payment of £500,000. So the police had to raid them and the owner got prosecuted by HMRC for tax evasion totaling several hundred thousand as well as prosecuted for profiting to the tune of £1.5 million from prostitution over 15 years. Even though the local police were well aware of its existence for most of that time. You get the massage parlors which offer happy endings and blow jobs. Often with foriegn girls. The seediest are the pop up brothels especially in the big cities. The Romanians are into this in a big way where they will rent a house of a subleter and then convert it into a brothel. A guy i know had this done to his property. He rented it out to what he thought was a nice family. Next thing the neighbour calls him up asking why the fuck he is running a brothel next door. He went through the courts to evict them and i joined him with the bailiffs for the eviction, we caught 2 random blokes stark naked with these Romanian slags. They had subdivided the house into 9 separate rooms and added two bathrooms and 3 showers. It took weeks and cost thousands to rip out what these cowboy builders did and i never was able to figure out exactly what they did to the electrics. Street walkersBottom of the barrel. Avoid at all costs. The police are always busting people for it and its the worst of the worst. Although some street walker trash have migrated into brothels and some of the sites for independents. There are various review services and forums which are devoted to reviewing sex workers. Looking on there can help you select a good one. Foreign Vs LocalI tend to prefer local women. My first time was actually with a lovely Czech girl. She was top notch. I've seen Czech, Polish, Russian and Hungarian as well as white native girls (an Aussie and a Canadian as well). The law says its illegal to use a girl who has been trafficked. With the foreign girls in some cases you cannot be 100% sure. The Czech girls are the best hands down. Although some of them don't have the best English. Over all there are plenty of great native girls available for a reasonable price and the odd top notch eastern European girl working independent. I think the foreign girls do hold the prices down a bit which haven't gone up that much since i started in 2009. ServicesI'm very vanilla. I tend to prefer GFE (Girlfriend Experience) so basically its as natural as possible. A quick chat. Paperwork out the way. Kissing. Caressing. Hugs. Get naked. Oral both ways. Typically without a condom. Protected sex in a few positions. Although a lot of the same girls who i do that with offer other services. Like Porn Star Experience which is some crazy stuff. Tie and tease. BDSM. Some advertise for pay pigs and don't provide sex at all. I honestly couldn't tell people much about that. PricesAs a rule of thumb if you want a 1hr incall of GFE (Girlfriend Experience) with a decent native girl you can expect to pay £150. Outcalls generally start at £170 for the hour. Some girls do both or only one. Then again there are girls I've seen who are pretty damn good at £100-£130 with most GFE services included. Some do half an hour for as little as £60. Some of the kinky stuff is more money. Extra hours are £100 after that. Overnight is generally £1000. Way beyond my budget. I did used to overnight with a girl i used to see when i worked and stayed up in Lincoln. She had an overnight special 8PM-8AM on her schedule with 7 hours sleep for £400. Everything costs more in London though, its harder to find decent service at national rates although i got lucky last time i went. There are also some girls with a really inflated opinion of themselves who will charge way over outside London. Some girls who are really high end also charge more. They cater to a different bit of the market and tend to go away with wealthy guys for holidays and trips and the bill probably runs into thousands for 3 weeks and they negotiate a price. STD'sThis is insanely overblown. Sufficed to say you are far less at risk of catching an infection from a professional sex worker than in the general population. They have a lower rate of infection (sex workers when you include all the dirty skanks and druggies which i have never gone near in 8 years) chances are the sex workers who have infections got them in their personal lives or sharing needles or going bare because they are dirty skanks. Generally penetrative sex is protected outside of a few risky individuals. Oral without isn't uncommon. A lot of girls i've seen don't do anal and i've never really wanted to try it myself. Most girls i see say they get tested every 1 or 2 weeks including oral swabs. The risks of infection from oral are minimal and the most likely transmission is probably going to be from man to woman and not the other way round. That being said any skin to skin contact has risks. Its so low as to not be a concern. I've never had a problem and i get checked every now and again just in case. Some advice for budding escortcelsDo your research. Get a phone specifically just for doing it with a number that can't be traced to you. You never know if you might come across a crazy girl or get caught up in blackmail. Nothing bad has ever happened to me, but i hear stories. Keep your wits about you. If something is to good to be true it probably is. Check reviews in multiple places. Ask around on the review forums. Some users are scammers and get fake reviews. Stick to agencies and independents. Use a condom. Oh and despite all the scorn poured on sex workers. They are professionals. No need to treat them like scum. Generally much nicer than the average roastie. I've always been treated with decency and respect and i always make sure to give it back. Other basic kindness is to be squeaky clean and minty fresh before you go and see one. No need to slack on hygiene just because you're paying. Some offer a shower at their place before and after. I always shower beforehand to save time i'm paying for. Some final adviceOne final thing i will say, is it really will help you to not go mad. It makes you long for an actual GF more though because you can only have the experience for an hour but you know other guys can get it a few times a week instead of once a month or every few months. It will clear up a lot of confusion about sex, there are even women who specialise in deflowering guys. If it is your first time find a girl who seems kind and understanding as opposed to the hottest girl you can find who may also be perfectly nice but could be a bit of a bitch or not be into it (you will be spoiled for choice for hot women) you can chase those later if you want.Great post man !!", "good post bro.I'm planning to see an agency girl soon. DATY and BBBJ are pretty standard where I'm from. What are your thoughts on this?", "fagotonabike said:With my luck I would contact every single possible STD from my very first escort.That'd be actually a good luck. You can give the STD to as many escorts as you can and ruin their lives and then you'd die and be put out of your misery.", "I would also recommend some arrangement websites. It's more personal (girls texting you and chatting etc before the meeting) and you're the only one that day and maybe that week. Plus you tend to go out (restaurant or bar) beforehand which I've never done before in 30 years of my life. Seriously expensive though €400 a meeting, but my studycelling and workcelling has to pay off a bit eventually....", "fukmylyf said:good post bro.I'm planning to see an agency girl soon. DATY and BBBJ are pretty standard where I'm from. What are your thoughts on this?Yeah, I get BBJ and do DATY, you'll be fine. But you should always be careful, like see if you feel any problem with the girl, I mean obvious problems with her skin or anything else.", "fukmylyf said:good post bro.I'm planning to see an agency girl soon. DATY and BBBJ are pretty standard where I'm from. What are your thoughts on this?I've been going down on escorts and getting OWO (Oral With Out) for 8 years and never had a problem. I stick to high end clean girls though. Although a few only do it covered and I've just gone straight to the main event. Most check your junk before they do it, the risk is more likely transmission from you to her than the other way round. Its one of the reasons i get tested once a year even though i only have protected sex with escorts. Just to make sure I'm still clean. Just as a professional courtesy.", "commander_zoidberg said:I've been going down on escorts and getting OWO (Oral With Out) for 8 years and never had a problem. I stick to high end clean girls though. Although a few only do it covered and I've just gone straight to the main event. Most check your junk before they do it, the risk is more likely transmission from you to her than the other way round. Its one of the reasons i get tested once a year even though i only have protected sex with escorts. Just to make sure I'm still clean. Just as a professional courtesy.Solid advice.", "IceCutter said:Lol @ OPLondon is the incel capital of the world -  NEVER FORGETWhy lol? London was just an example. Also it’s legal in UK", "The point about normies lying about STDs is right on point. Mostly every single thing that is preventing you from escotceling is from the normie propaganda you absorbed through the years. Fucking escorts may be the cure, not years of therapy, medication, and being yourself.As for the money issue (i.e. I'm not gonna spend $400 to just fuck a girl, brah.), normies spend this amount and more just to fuck a normal woman. Spending $100+ for a single date is not uncommon, and sex is never guaranteed after the date. There is also the fact that time = money and normies waste A LOT of time trying to get laid. Unless you are a Chad who can get sex from any woman he wants quickly, getting escorts is far more economical.", "IceCutter said:You live in London right? A large percentage of incel posters are always from London, it's the incel capital of the worldNah man. I am not from Londonpm_me_ur_metatarsals said:The point about normies lying about STDs is right on point. Mostly every single thing that is preventing you from escotceling is from the normie propaganda you absorbed through the years. Fucking escorts may be the cure, not years of therapy, medication, and being yourself.As for the money issue (i.e. I'm not gonna spend $400 to just fuck a girl, brah.), normies spend this amount and more just to fuck a normal woman. Spending $100+ for a single date is not uncommon, and sex is never guaranteed after the date. There is also the fact that time = money and normies waste A LOT of time trying to get laid. Unless you are a Chad who can get sex from any woman he wants quickly, getting escorts is far more economical.This 100% this", "IceCutter said:Lol @ OPLondon is the incel capital of the world -  NEVER FORGETI'm a Britcel. London is a shit hole. A bag of fish & chips can cost £10 down there. People have sticks up their arse. The women are trashy and its full of bloody foreigners. Plus an hour of decent GFE with an escort can run £200-£300. Where as you can get just as good service in Manchester, Birmingham, Liverpool, Leeds, Newcastle or Edinburgh for £150 or less.", "pm_me_ur_metatarsals said:The point about normies lying about STDs is right on point. Mostly every single thing that is preventing you from escotceling is from the normie propaganda you absorbed through the years. Fucking escorts may be the cure, not years of therapy, medication, and being yourself.As for the money issue (i.e. I'm not gonna spend $400 to just fuck a girl, brah.), normies spend this amount and more just to fuck a normal woman. Spending $100+ for a single date is not uncommon, and sex is never guaranteed after the date. There is also the fact that time = money and normies waste A LOT of time trying to get laid. Unless you are a Chad who can get sex from any woman he wants quickly, getting escorts is far more economical.Yeah. A lot of it is propaganda to an extent. Feminists really hate professional sex workers. Feminists are always screaming about womens choice and womens rights and all this other stuff. When it comes to sex work they literally melt down and seem to take the position that women can't make the choice and not that kind of freedom i even had one feminist who said women don't have the right to do sex work because Eva Braun chose Hitler yet those are probably the same kind of roasties going insane at Incels because we are apparently entitled. Some of it is just misinformation and old societal attitudes. Most escorts are paranoid about their health and cleanliness because if they get an issue they can't work and it really damages their reputation as well if someone says in a review she has herpes sores. etc Yeah. Escorts are pretty good value for money. Especially if you are a normie. You are going to spend quite a bit of money trying to bed a woman in the first place. You're spending it with no guarantee of return. Where as i can just call up a girl i go too regular (pretty brunette girl next door type) and ask for an hour incall at 10PM on Wednesday. Wear something nice. Go to her place. She will give me what i want. Its not a cure for inceldom. It is pretty effective treatment. Its the only thing that keeps me sane from month to month. Spot on analysis bloke.IceCutter said:nice, seasoned escort user? This industry is doing very well in UK, in a way I feel sorry for americans etc.Yes, I would have to agree with you about London, those other cities you mentioned I would say are great cities and I would liked to have lived in them, except maybe Birmingham which is also meant to be a bit of a tip. Those cities are cold in winter though lol, Newcastle now is famous for its sexy nightlife but I think it's just because it's so cold ugly people aren't strong enough to live there lol.Yes. 8 years now. Its treatment, not a cure. Overall. Very positive experiences. A few duds. Once every other year i seem to have averaged. I had a terrible experience my 3rd time with a Russian girl who gave me oral so hard she made my dick numb and i couldn't come and lost my erection. Next experience i had was with a ridiculously adorable petite 18YO brunette. That was incredible. I only got to see her the once. Still burns my bacon. I wasted time once going to see a girl who seemed pretty good on her profile but was a skank in a shitty terrible street and her house was disgusting. I walked away. That was an early lesson in 2010. Didn't cost me any money. Just half an hour of my time. Another time i saw a girl from one of the agencies, she looked beyond stunning from the pictures. They were a little photoshopped. She wasn't all that pretty and had a lot of hair and make up done. She was so tight i could barely even fuck her. Couldn't come at all. Last year i saw a girl from an agency who was nowhere near as pretty as her photoshopped pictures. I managed to come, but it was very robotic and pretty crappy to be honest. I do most of my escortcelling in Birmingham. Its the nearest major city. I've also used escorts in Milton Keynes, Lincoln, Leeds, Nottingham, Derby, Coventry, Liverpool, Newcastle, Aberdeen and Edinburgh. As well as once or twice in London (good service is HARD to find at an acceptable price believe me). I actually have seen a girl who gives good service for £150. I also used to see a girl on tour from London in Leeds who would service me for £150 an hour. As a city Birmingham is ok. Parts of it are DIRE. I used to work in one of the dire parts of it in my last job. The local high street was a shit hole. You would think you were in Pakistan if you didn't know better. I think its better than Manchester though. The gangs in Handsworth, Lozelles and Spark Brook are nowhere near as bad as Mossside in Manchester. No one does stuff in broad daylight. In Brum the shit goes down after dark 9 times out of 10. I like Newcastle. Mainly because I love taking the piss out of the Geordies.I do feel bad for the Yanks that its illegal. It shows what a retarded country they are that you have the constitutional right to buy and own as much deadly weaponry as you want. Yet you cannot buy a blow job or an hour of a womans time in the privacy of your own home.", "Good guide, it's a little harder for Yankcels, but them's the breaks. Be smart and always wear a rubber. Never do anything without a fucking rubber. If she lets you do it, she lets everyone else do it, and the guy before you might have been a diseased ex-con trucker.That's why you don't DATY either, ew.", "RichCel said:Good guide, it's a little harder for Yankcels, but them's the breaks. Be smart and always wear a rubber. Never do anything without a fucking rubber. If she lets you do it, she lets everyone else do it, and the guy before you might have been a diseased ex-con trucker.That's why you don't DATY either, ew.Condoms help a lot but the second you get naked with a women and start rubbing your skin together and kissing you are at about the same small risk of transferring some infections including the herp as getting oral without or going down on her (any kind can jump onto any moist fleshy part of your body). Even with a rubber on her juices will still get on the base of your cock and your crotch while fucking. Most people are thought to actually carry one of the HSV viruses somewhere on the body. Its just its dormant in most people and only a tiny fraction of people with it ever get symptoms. Condoms don't prevent the spread of HPV either. Although the risk is more on women with that than men. This risk is pretty small compared to other infections you get exposed to in every day life. There is being sensible and managing risk and then there is being insanely paranoid. Escorts I've been with generally wash and change in between being with men. You get the lower end who see bloke after bloke. But yes. Whatever you do with her, she does with other men. Its why you stick to high end girls who have standards for their clients. Girls I've seen have told me about rejecting clients because they were dirty, smelly, had sores on their mouths or crotches or warts or a bad smell. Rejected guys who were drunk and intoxicated. Guys who were under the influence of drugs like cocaine. Another one had a guy come to see her who was some musician who was acting strange and she looked on his arms and saw needle marks so she told him to leave. You have to avoid the low end skanks who would still see a bloke who was an ex con trucker with HIV and needle marks from IV drugs use on his arm.", "Well yeah. There's always a risk of catching SOMETHING unless you wear a hazmat suit. I just don't believe in sticking it  without a raincoat in a pussy that is a shared resource,  lol. The ex-con trucker was just an exaggerated example. IDK, for me it's just not worth rolling the dice for a small increase in sensation. But if you are desperate enough for a bareback fuck and she lets you and you DGAF about the increased possibility of an STD, more power to you then.", "RichCel said:Well yeah. There's always a risk of catching SOMETHING unless you wear a hazmat suit. I just don't believe in sticking it  without a raincoat in a pussy that is a shared resource,  lol. The ex-con trucker was just an exaggerated example. IDK, for me it's just not worth rolling the dice for a small increase in sensation. But if you are desperate enough for a bareback fuck and she lets you and you DGAF about the increased possibility of an STD, more power to you then.+1, Bareback with any girl is stupid, unless its your gf or wife. You can never say who is clean and who is not.", "RichCel said:Well yeah. There's always a risk of catching SOMETHING unless you wear a hazmat suit. I just don't believe in sticking it without a raincoat in a pussy that is a shared resource, lol. The ex-con trucker was just an exaggerated example.IDK, for me it's just not worth rolling the dice for a small increase in sensation. But if you are desperate enough for a bareback fuck and she lets you and you DGAF about the increased possibility of an STD, more power to you then.I don't do bareback sex. I always cover up for the main event. I'm just saying some people have the wrong ideas about just what the risks are and how they can protect themselves when it comes to other forms of sexual contact. When it comes to the risks of HIV i don't see girls who do anal. Whatever people claim a lot of people who get HIV either got it from anal sex or sharing needles. The main reasons to cover up are Gonorrhea, Clymidia and Syphilis if you ask me. Its a major fucking pain to have one of those infections and then have to get antibiotics if you have a severe infection. Apparently there is evidence these bugs are becoming antibiotic resistant like the hospital superbugs like MRSA. Soon you will not be able to treat some of them with any antibiotic. So you will have to suffer horribly every time you take a piss for a month or two while your immune system clears them out of your pee pee.", "the cost of London incel mens' insatiable appetite for prostitutes: boss Chad killedHe then reportedly moved to the UK - where he is said to have angered Romanian gangs already operating here.  A Romanian justice source told The Sun: 'Serbu tried to muscle in and imported around 100 prostitutes.The arrival of competition like that was always going to rock the boat.'The fast cash of workcelling men in big incel prison cities is serious business@[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]commander_zoidberg[/font]", "daily reminder that if you're not escortcelling you're a volcel because you're rejecting good sex", "NekoStance said:the cost of London incel mens' insatiable appetite for prostitutes: boss Chad killedThe fast cash of workcelling men in big incel prison cities is serious business@[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]commander_zoidberg[/font]He looks like an Incel Chad hybrid.oblivioncel said:daily reminder that if you're not escortcelling you're a volcel because you're rejecting good sexWhat if you don't want women to have more power of you (i.e paying for sex) ?", "CopingGymcel said:What if you don't want women to have more power of you (i.e paying for sex) ?in a way or another they'd still have power over you even in a conventional relationship (unless you're a chad), because you'd have to devote attention and time to them in order to keep getting laid", "oblivioncel said:in a way or another they'd still have power over you even in a conventional relationship (unless you're a chad), because you'd have to devote attention and time to them in order to keep getting laidBut if you can't get into a relationship to begin with, why still give them power over you?", "wish i had money to blow on escorts", "CopingGymcel said:But if you can't get into a relationship to begin with, why still give them power over you?because you still want to get laid and indulge in the illusion of being desired even if only for few moments", "oblivioncel said:because you still want to get laid and indulge in the illusion of being desired even if only for few momentsYou've had sex with a prostitute before?I think the main reason I wouldn't have sex with a prostitute other than giving women power over me is that I am not all comfortable with strangers. I can't imagine sharing such an intimate moment with someone I just met and have nothing in common with. I would at least have had to be friendly with them for some hours before that (i.e hooking up).", "CopingGymcel said:You've had sex with a prostitute before?no, i'm too awkward", "Good post bruh! Lifefuel! Who cares about betabuxing a 3/10 when it's cheaper to fuck a way hotter chick who submits to you! Either way they are not genuine if you aren't Chad.", "NekoStance said:the cost of London incel mens' insatiable appetite for prostitutes: boss Chad killedThe fast cash of workcelling men in big incel prison cities is serious business@[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]commander_zoidberg[/font]Doesn't surprise me one bit. The last few years the Romanians have taken a big chunk of the market in the UK. They probably make up nearly a 1/3 of all the local adultwork profiles in some cities. The low end pop up brothels tend to be Romanian operated with Romanian girls too. A few years ago Czech and Polish girls had a big slice of the market but now a lot of them have packed it in and are working elsewhere in Europe or back home where living is cheaper. The UK is pretty expensive and operating prostitution in a non criminal manner is pretty expensive when hourly rates are still what they are roughly 9-10 years ago. I stay away from Romanians because a lot of the girls are skanks and criminals. Have poor English. You want to talk about Fake-Up there is a picture thread on a reviews forum where they have got their hands on the verification photos of a lot of the adultwork profiles which tend to be without make up. Holding something with your profile ID no. and today's date on and passport. They look like fucking dogs compared to makeup and photoshop pictures. Disgusting. I also stay away because there is a risk that they are trafficked. I even notice a few areas around here where the red light districts have returned and are now Romanians when the trashy local whores abandoned them more than 20 years ago. To any observing Britfag budding escortcels: STAY AWAY FROM THE FUCKING ROMANIANS. FOR FUCKS SAKE. DON'T DO IT![font=Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif]Save[/font]", "commander_zoidberg said:Street walkersgive the best rate / experience", "quadRUPLE bogey said:give the best rate / experienceJFL whyd you bump this thread", "Legendarywristcel said:JFL whyd you bump this threadit's a good guide idk ", "quadRUPLE bogey said:it's a good guide idk True. Some wisdom from a 2017cel. Wonder what happened to most of these guys.", "Legendarywristcel said:Wonder what happened to most of these guys.they all used this guide to get pussy ", "quadRUPLE bogey said:they all used this guide to get pussy Based 2017cels. 2021cels are unfortunately not this based.", "Legendarywristcel said:Based 2017cels. 2021cels are unfortunately not this based.Miss my my nigga @11gaijin ... Top class dude. Haven't spoken to you since mid 2019.Ps @PPEcel & @BlkPillPres you may want to see this.", "LittleBoy said:Miss my my nigga @11gaijin ... Top class dude. Haven't spoken to you since mid 2019.Ps @PPEcel & @BlkPillPres you may want to see this.He prolly ascended. Was he a currycel living in the west?", "Legendarywristcel said:True. Some wisdom from a 2017cel. Wonder what happened to most of these guys.I'd bet more than 2/3rds have roped at this point", "HouseOfTarots2020 said:I'd bet more than 2/3rds have roped at this pointI doubt it. statistically a very small minority of cels actually end up roping.", "Legendarywristcel said:He prolly ascended. Was he a currycel living in the west?Currycel living in India.", "LittleBoy said:Currycel living in India.i c. I could follow his path then, if he has ascended. But who are we kidding, he prolly got an arranged marriage and is prolly wageslaving rn.", "commander_zoidberg said:Doesn't surprise me one bit. The last few years the Romanians have taken a big chunk of the market in the UK. They probably make up nearly a 1/3 of all the local adultwork profiles in some cities. The low end pop up brothels tend to be Romanian operated with Romanian girls too. A few years ago Czech and Polish girls had a big slice of the market but now a lot of them have packed it in and are working elsewhere in Europe or back home where living is cheaper. The UK is pretty expensive and operating prostitution in a non criminal manner is pretty expensive when hourly rates are still what they are roughly 9-10 years ago.I stay away from Romanians because a lot of the girls are skanks and criminals. Have poor English. You want to talk about Fake-Up there is a picture thread on a reviews forum where they have got their hands on the verification photos of a lot of the adultwork profiles which tend to be without make up. Holding something with your profile ID no. and today's date on and passport. They look like fucking dogs compared to makeup and photoshop pictures. Disgusting. I also stay away because there is a risk that they are trafficked. I even notice a few areas around here where the red light districts have returned and are now Romanians when the trashy local whores abandoned them more than 20 years ago.To any observing Britfag budding escortcels: STAY AWAY FROM THE FUCKING ROMANIANS. FOR FUCKS SAKE. DON'T DO IT![font=Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif]Save[/font]Well that's pretty fucked considering I lost my BB virginity to a Romanian Escort. Miss OP.", "HOLY FUCKING NECROTHREADS. I'm one of the only people not banned from when this thread was posted. LittleBoy said:Well that's pretty fucked considering I lost my BB virginity to a Romanian Escort.Miss OP.I'm surprised your dick didn't dissolve. ", "Romanian hookers in the UK are considered sub-human, they even lie about their nationality on listings because they know people hate them.", "Wow good guide", "11gaijin said:So as I promised in another thread, after the demands of some fellowcels, I post this guide for people who want to escortcel. I will try to make this guide as detailed but as clear as possible. I have been escortcelling for the past 2 years. I actually fucked 3 of them 3 years back when I was on an Intern to a foreign university but most others I have fucked in the last 2 years. I have fucked 21 of them till now. I don't do it very often now as I only do it on vacations as I have explained belowPS: If you don't want to escortcel or are against this practice, its fine. This guide is not for you. No hate please.Q) What is escortcelling?A) Escortcelling is fucking femoids in exchange of moneyQ) Why should I escortcel?A) For a number of reasons. One of them is if you are an incel who wants to have sex.Q) But it isn't morally right.A) Nigga, you serious?Q) But hookers are dirtyA) A hooker, unless you pick one from the street who smokes meth all day, is probably as clean as an average girl you would be willing to fuck in a bar. Most of themdo checkups regularly and are as concerned about their safety as you.Q) But what about STDs?A) Use a condom nigga. STDs from escortcelling is a bluepill meme propagated by normancucks and femoids so that you are forced to get into cuck relationships with landwhales instead of fucking a 8/10 stacy in exchange for money.Q) But I don't fear other STDs, I am afraid of HIV. That is too much of a riskA) Everything in life has some risk associated with it. You can die in an accident as soon as you walk out tomorrow. But catching HIV is very very rare. To give you an idea these are the chances of catching HIV if you have sex with an infected personWhat this means is that, HIV transmission for lets say, insertive vaginal sex (inserting the penis into the vagina) was estimated to be 0.04%, equivalent to 1 transmission per 2,500 exposures. For the mentalcels this is roughly saying that to get infected with HIV from an infected person you would need to fuck her pussy 2500 times on average. This is when you are fucking an HIV infected person without a condom. When you are using a condom, which are said to be effective 98-99% of the time and considering the factor that the femoid may or may not even have HIV you can imagine how low the odds are. I am not encouraging anyone to do bareback sex. I am just saying that the STD meme is norman bullshit which is overexxagerated.Q) But what about oral sex? I can get HIV if she sucks me?A) There is no documentaed case of HIV transmitted by oral sex so far. The conditions to be met to get HIV via oral are too muchQ) But people have said that they tried escortcelling and the sex was badA) They just met a bad hooker. Being an escort is a skill. Some escort girls are so good that they make you feel like a king, you almost fall in love. While other ones might shatter your belief in sex. I have met both types. Novices are usually more prone to run into the second type.Q) But she doesn't love me, she is just fucking me for moneyA) If validation is why you are visiting an escortgirl then you should not do so. You should instead put your money in tinder pro and set your location to Bangkok, that will give you validation.Q) How is the sex with a hooker?A) As I said earlier it depends on the girl. Some of them are greaaat. You will never forget the sex you had. SOme of them are shit and you won't like to remember the sex you had. I have met both types.Q) How do they look?A) They come in all types. I have definitely fucked lookswise 8-9/10 escortgirls. You can always choose.Q) How do I get a hooker?A) This depends on the place. Usually these are the optionsPermium escort website: You can find these by googling London Escorts if you live in London.Pros:Most of the time these websites have reviews of each escort so you would get better serviceSince these escorts are part of the agency they won't do bullshit as they risk losing their jobThese agencies are usually quite professional and for a newbie this is the best optionCons:Usually more expensiveCraigslist or Backpage: You can find escorts on Craigslist or BackpagePros:Cheaper than Premium escortsYou can get independent escortsCons:Quality of service isn't guaranteedYou have to be more cautious (I live in Asia and I use Backpage but never had a problem, just don't be a stupidcel)BrothelsPros:CheapestCons:Usually the girls are not that good lookingQuality of service is usually mechanicalMost brothel's ambiance is not that goodVacationingThis is my preferred way of doing it. Whenever I take a holiday I usually go to Thailand or Philippines and fuck cheap hookers over there. Its a different scene in Thailand and one post isn't enough for that. They usually have many strip clubs and bars where girls work who you can take to your hotels after talking to them. Its more informal and fun. This website is dedicated to the escortcelling scene in ThailandQ) What's the complete process?A) If you are new to escortcelling you should go for option 1, that is escort websites. They won't disappoint you and are more professional. You will need to spend more money though.Once you book an escort ask her to come to your place. You can either go to hers or call her. I usually like calling them to my place or asking them to meet in a public place and then take them to my place after getting them drunk. Your place is the safer option for obvious reasons. Once she is at your place take out your condom, fuck her, cum in her mouth and ask her to swallow it. Give her the money and then she would leave.This is a great website which covers the escortcelling scene in most countries and major cities. When I first started escortcelling I used this website. The guy replies to all comments.If you have any other questions, shoot them.1. Glad to see you posting again2. Great guide3. Glad you elaborated on the std part, its a cliche (and stupid) argument often used by anti-escortcels, I didn't even know the odds were so extremely low even without a condom (I just knew they were low with a condom), so if you use a condom you don't really have anything to worry about.STD's are pretty much a non-argument thenLittleBoy said:Miss my my nigga @11gaijin ... Top class dude. Haven't spoken to you since mid 2019.Ps @PPEcel & @BlkPillPres you may want to see this.Noted", "BlkPillPres said:1. Glad to see you posting again2. Great guide3. Glad you elaborated on the std part, its a cliche (and stupid) argument often used by anti-escortcels, I didn't even know the odds were so extremely low even without a condom (I just knew they were low with a condom), so if you use a condom you don't really have anything to worry about.STD's are pretty much a non-argument thenNotedMate its a Necrothread. He hasn't posted since 2019 I believe and yeah I had to tag you into this.commander_zoidberg said:HOLY FUCKING NECROTHREADS.I'm one of the only people not banned from when this thread was posted. I'm surprised your dick didn't dissolve. I was shit scared. Had to go and buy PReP straight after.", "LittleBoy said:Mate its a Necrothread. He hasn't posted since 2019 I believe and yeah I had to tag you into this.I was shit scared. Had to go and buy PReP straight after.JFL I didn't even bother to check the date, I just assumed he came back", "Damn some of the best escorts (looks and service) aren't working because of corona. All I see in my city are fake tits 5-6s.", "BodyFat10orRope said:Damn some of the best escorts (looks and service) aren't working because of corona. All I see in my city are fake tits 5-6s.They're still good.", "LittleBoy said:They're still good.Yeah maybe they would be. I'm not going to escorts though cause my libido is low from dieting.", "commander_zoidberg said:Some final adviceOne final thing i will say, is it really will help you to not go mad. It makes you long for an actual GF more though because you can only have the experience for an hour but you know other guys can get it a few times a week instead of once a month or every few months.True. I was with 3 escorts in a 3-day span about 2 weeks ago and even though I'm not suffering from my raging sex drive thanks to the orgasms experienced with them, a part of mind is starting to wonder about what chances I have for a relationship with some foid (zero of course, but the thought keeps crossing my mind over and over again).", "I fucked a russian escort in london yesterdayrope2cope said:Romanian hookers in the UK are considered sub-human, they even lie about their nationality on listings because they know people hate them.I have fucked Romanian (most likely means gypsy) hookers, the agency said they were polish.They were as good as any other escort.", "Unhappy-Man said:I have fucked Romanian (most likely means gypsy) hookers, the agency said they were polish.They were as good as any other escort.I concur. Lost my BB & CIP V card to 1.kampman said:True. I was with 3 escorts in a 3-day span about 2 weeks ago and even though I'm not suffering from my raging sex drive thanks to the orgasms experienced with them, a part of mind is starting to wonder about what chances I have for a relationship with some foid (zero of course, but the thought keeps crossing my mind over and over again).I've felt this but this is the only option I have though.", "kampman said:True. I was with 3 escorts in a 3-day span about 2 weeks ago and even though I'm not suffering from my raging sex drive thanks to the orgasms experienced with them, a part of mind is starting to wonder about what chances I have for a relationship with some foid (zero of course, but the thought keeps crossing my mind over and over again).That's exactly why I'm wealthmaxxingIf you retire early and move to a country with a low cost of living, then you can have sex multiple times a week and it would probably cost you less than it does the average guy to be in a relationship (depends on where you live though)Don't expect to live in new york and be able to do thatI think incels need to take advantage of the fact that poor countries exist while they still do exist lolOne day, all countries will be first world, there won't be any women that will have to fuck an incel landlord because they can't pay rent, or fuck an incel John because they have to prostitute themselves to surviveWe were born in a shitty era, but there are still some loopholes and exploits, if you think we have it bad, imagine how bad it will be for the incels who have to struggle to get laid even whilst being rich, and getting laid is breaking their wallets too, because the lack of poor women means their prices go up, because they can afford to price themselves higher", "need a youngcel escort guide tbh ", "kanyepilled said:need a youngcel escort guide tbh thailandor epstein island", "OwlGod said:thailandorepstein islandI could only pray for Thailand while on the flight ", "Thread like this are too rarethere needs to be pro-active threads , instead of LDAR nonsense.Best would be a moneymaxx thread :How to save and generate money with an incel lifestyle " ]
SeriousWhy Turks Only Know Red Pill/Where İs TurkİncelSite
[ "Very little people know black pill and this is very sad. I know 5-6 Turkish red pill blog but ı dont know blackpill or incel site. Only 1 TurkİncelDiscord server :/", "There are many Incels in Turkey, but I don't think they have any problems with girls...", "there is inci sözlük bro turkish incel website", "loserkarthusplayer said:there is inci sözlük bro turkish incel websiteWhere are you from? ? İNCİ SÖZLÜK BEST thanks", "LilHappyLilSad said:Where are you from? ? İNCİ SÖZLÜK BEST thanksTurkey from cuckistanbul", "@Cuyen @Blacktarpill", "ne var lan", "Turks once erdogan goes away prep yourselfes to become cuckeuropeans", "başka türkçe konuşan varmı başka", "Ben varımm reissCuyen said:başka türkçe konuşan varmı başkaReis bennn varım", "Type on YoutubeHamudi Ebalz, biggest Black Pill Incel Turkey", "LilHappyLilSad said:Ben varımm reissReis bennn varımBirada güzel sikiş dönüyor just go trukey and just be white br0", "Hamudi EbalzYoutube Bak Hamudi Ebalz Aha senin Türk Incel Gruoup", "LDARBuddah said:@Cuyen@Blacktarpill@HighTGymceltimikellner said:Type on YoutubeHamudi Ebalz, biggest Black Pill Incel Turkeyhe is arab", "HighTGymcel said:@HighTGymcelhe is arabArab degil, video bak, türk konusuyo", "timikellner said:Arab degil, video bak, türk konusuyoHayir, dogru düzgün turkce bile bilmiyor xd", "knajjd should join", "Blacktarpill said:Hayir, dogru düzgün turkce bile bilmiyor xdTurkmene Syrer", "timikellner said:Arab degil, video bak, türk konusuyoarap o amk suriyelitimikellner said:Turkmene Syrerwhere he says he is syrian turkmen ?", "Cuyen said:amk suriyelitbh", "BigGhey said:knajjd should joinI know knajjd ", "LilHappyLilSad said:I know knajjd irl?", "BigGhey said:irl?What?irl?", "LilHappyLilSad said:What?irl?in real life", "BigGhey said:in real lifeNo, discord ", "LilHappyLilSad said:No, discord oh okare you from Batman, Turkey?Is Batman popular in Turkey?", "Cuyen said:başka türkçe konuşan varmı başkaVar tabi olmaz mıBigGhey said:oh okare you from Batman, Turkey?Is Batman popular in Turkey?Not really, it is just another city in the southeast Turkey, most places in Turkey resemble each other to the point where there is no practical difference, with the exception of big cities", "BigGhey said:Batman, TurkeyWell I just learned something new", "BigGhey said:oh okare you from Batman, Turkey?Is Batman popular in Turkey?No, not popularDüzce ", "ananızın amını açın beyler", "You guys have it better, as a turk living in western europe its fucking torture. Although I doubt that it would be better in that country.", "Neggr said:You guys have it better, as a turk living in western europe its fucking torture. Although I doubt that it would be better in that country.tbh I dont think its any better in Turkey since its probably just as westernized", "Janusz_Pawulon said:There are many Incels in Turkey, but I don't think they have any problems with girls... 125516Why would you publically call yourself Incel?jesus, this is something that is supposed to stay on the internet, don't pride yourself in being an incel irl", "DerPreuße said:Why would you publically call yourself Incel?jesus, this is something that is supposed to stay on the internet, don't pride yourself in being an incel irlThis man not incel Surname: incel ", "LilHappyLilSad said:This man not incelSurname: incel I considered that. lolPoor guy.", "kebabcels unite NOW tüm berkecan ve pelinsuları ÖLDÜRECEĞİZ ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROSPU DEJENERE PİÇLER", "Neggr said:You guys have it better, as a turk living in western europe its fucking torture. Although I doubt that it would be better in that country.western ethnics will have it ultimately worse.", "Not EnglishVay amkTürkiye aslında inceldom a çok müsait bir ülke ama herkes bluepilledMesela ben ethnic lottery yi vurmuşum benim gibi çok var böyle yamulan ama hepsi white knight olmayı tercih ediyor ", "onurbaba said:Not EnglishVay amkTürkiye aslında inceldom a çok müsait bir ülke ama herkes bluepilledMesela ben ethnic lottery yi vurmuşum benim gibi çok var böyle yamulan ama hepsi white knight olmayı tercih ediyor Şükürcü enayiler çok bizim ülkede o yüzden. 1/10'sun ama elin ayağın tutuyo şükret Git herhangi bir Türk forumunda tipsizim diye konu aç konudaki yorumların hepsi %100 bluepilled olacak.Janusz_Pawulon said:There are many Incels in Turkey, but I don't think they have any problems with girls... 125516caged at this ngl", "There are some guys in the Turkish TRP community who are balatantly worshipped by the retarded red pill fanatics. These guys became very popular in 2017 by preaching red pill on eksisozluk.com and erkekadam.org and also twitter obviously. For a Turkcel who can't understand english well, there is no way for him to be properly introduced with blackpill. First they get brainwashed by the red pill lies and in time they become a fanatic. There is not a Black Pill source to be researched by turkcels who can't speak english, so they just fall for trp bullshit.", "amına kodumun kürtleri ölü başlığı hortlatmışsınız donanımhaber oldu aq jfl tbh ngl ded srs lol @ you subhumans , bilge burdaysan ses var amına kodumun neeti niye sildin beni aq", "This thread was necrobumped, check the date.", "retard_supreme0 said:This thread was necrobumped, check the date.i was just letting the dear untermensche turks know JFL @ them incelcon istanbul when?", "dankascholon said:i was just letting the dear untermensche turks know JFL @ them incelcon istanbul when?kanki biz subhumansak sen ne oluyorsun. Fakecel out!!", "dankascholon said:incelcon istanbul when?I would come nglretard_supreme0 said:This thread was necrobumped, check the date.Sorry for that it is great to find turkish incels in this forum.Eleftherios said:There are some guys in the Turkish TRP community who are balatantly worshipped by the retarded red pill fanatics. These guys became very popular in 2017 by preaching red pill on eksisozluk.com and erkekadam.org and also twitter obviously. For a Turkcel who can't understand english well, there is no way for him to be properly introduced with blackpill. First they get brainwashed by the red pill lies and in time they become a fanatic. There is not a Black Pill source to be researched by turkcels who can't speak english, so they just fall for trp bullshit.Based and PUAhatepilled", "400 abonesi olan türk incel subredditi biliyorum, ama inaktif:sad:", "Manlet subhuman said:400 abonesi olan türk incel subredditi biliyorum, ama inaktif:sad:sad shit, man", "retard_supreme0 said:This thread was necrobumped, check the date.who was the one who bumped it?!", "Manlet subhuman said:400 abonesi olan türk incel subredditi biliyorum, ama inaktif:sad:ben orda moddum aq", "R.İ.P Türkiye inceller kulübü", "Brutal necropill", "Machoo57 said:R.İ.P Türkiye inceller kulübümachoo amk seni her türk ve incel kelimesinin bir arada bulunduğu sayfalarda buluyorum bu arada yeni sub ya da discord serveri var mı", "Oha burda beklediğimden fazla Türk varmış Kadınların amını sikiyim", "MaskinjLovesPeople said:machoo amk seni her türk ve incel kelimesinin bir arada bulunduğu sayfalarda buluyorumbu arada yeni sub ya da discord serveri var mıDiscord gurubu var. Türkİncel disboard yaz çıkar", "BigGhey said:knajjd should joini think knajjd is Russian...", "Agoracel said:i think knajjd is Russian...No he turk", "AlwaysHungry said:Oha burda beklediğimden fazla Türk varmışNormal, çünkü genetik havuz çok sıkıştırıldı görücü usulü ile. Sonrasında batı stili gelince de ggwp, 80/20 kanunu zaten 90/10 başladı burada. Artık İngilizce bilenler de artıyor Türkiye'de, arayanlar da buluyor buraları." ]
Are you a wagecuck or a NEET?
[ "I sadly fall into the wagecuck category, how about you?", "NEET", "Most of the votes will go to NEETs and studycels", "NEET", "StaroRavager said:Most of the votes will go to NEETs and studycelsidk how most users here can be NEETs, my mother would kick me out right away if i didn't wagecuck.", "Part time wage cuck. I'd gr crazy having to do full time", "Temporarily wagecucking because school is out.", "NEET ofc", "NEET", "WawelDragon1683 said:idk how most users here can be NEETs, my mother would kick me out right away if i didn't wagecuck.Yeah, it’s a complicated matter of have and have nots. Some incels are lucky, some not, others in between", "WawelDragon1683 said:I sadly fall into the wagecuck categoryWawelDragon1683 said:idk how most users here can be NEETs, my mother would kick me out right away if i didn't wagecuck.Replace mother with father for me", "Wagecuck, but I work a white collar job that pays enough that it's preferable to NEETing for me. In a few more years I'll be able to move to the country and let society die.", "Neet for another two months before I go back to training college", "Im NEET for the summer boyo", "Wagecuck for the summer, and schoolmaxx in the fall. I skipped work today jfl", "I was a wagecuck ", "cuckmaxing", "The wagecuck life is worth than death tbh", "NEET POWERNEET pride worldwideNEETs have a right to existRobots will replace wagecucksWe must secure the existence of our NEETbuxx and a future for chicken tendies.", "Soon graduate university (software engineering degree)", "Life is NEET wanna eatMakin beats smoke and sleepFeeling down had enoughBut that sound pick me up", "Wagecuck who dreams of becoming NEET.", "NEET who dreams of becoming wagecuck. Too bad I am too old and an incel, so I can't find even parttimer job.", "20 years old boyos neet here", "Somewhere in between. I work part time so i have alot of free time.", "mexicel said:NEET POWERNEET pride worldwideNEETs have a right to existRobots will replace wagecucksWe must secure the existence of our NEETbuxx and a future for chicken tendies.", "Studycuck", "Neet", "@Diocel, @Idotms, and i are currently neets", "[UWSL]NEET POWER[/UWSL]mexicel said:NEET pride worldwideNEETs have a right to existRobots will replace wagecucksWe must secure the existence of our NEETbuxx and a future for chicken tendies.NHKnigger said:Life is NEET wanna eatMakin beats smoke and sleepFeeling down had enoughBut that sound pick me up", "metal said:NEET", "wagecuck, lifelong guard because braincucked", "metal said:NEET", "Full time wageslave.", "FamilyGuy1999 said:@Diocel, @Idotms, and i are currently neetswish I was", "NEET for several month， soon will go back to wageslaving", "NEET for around 2 years but have to return to the wageslave plantation in a couple of months.If my life wasn't so comfy i would honestly quit slaving and started crimemaxxing either dealing drugs or stealing shit from rich snobs and women." ]
Its Over(F) Remember this guy? Hes dead...
[ "Jacob Baugh Obituary - Louisville, KYCelebrate the life of Jacob Baugh, leave a kind word or memory and get funeral service information care of Arch L. Heady at Resthaven.www.dignitymemorial.comHe lived in his parement's basement his whole life. RIP truecel.", "RIP.I like the way Christians are so selective. He had a heart of gold and a good soul, loved All of God’s creatures - nope. Being incel takes away anyone's love after a while for All of God's creatures. Also he almost certainly killed himself which means he now has peace, joy, and love with his God and Savior - nope. According to Christians you burn in Hell for suicide.Anyway, too bad. More men continue to follow. Inceldom is deadly.", "I guess he missed the jbw memo.", "lmao a true wizard", "NO NO NO!!!!Why?!Why does all the good guys have to die and all the trash stays alive? Rest In Peace Brother.", "RageAgainstTDL said:Also he almost certainly killed himselfI doubt it. When I was looking into him, I found a soy podcast called Your Mom's House that had some kind of medical professional on. The hosts would show him videos of people, including benadryl jake, that their fans had sent to them, and the medical professional would try to identify what was wrong with them. The guy said that Jake probably had emphysema, because he was using his accessory muscles to breathe. The guy probably died of a collapsed lung or of other issues related to his breathing.", "How did he die?", "volume warning, much?", "STAAY AWAAAAAAY!!!", "No way man...FUCK!!!!!!Firefly said:NO NO NO!!!!Why?!Why does all the good guys have to die and all the trash stays alive? Rest In Peace Brother.Indeed...FUCK THIS SHIT!!!!", "Based avi and based video.", "rest in peace", "Forced loneliness kills.Was it suicide or? No cause of death is listed anywhere, that's how much no one cares about truecels dying, they just throw them in the garbage, to be forgotten the day after.He was a catcel Should have posted here.", "Imagine the kind of tortuous and lonely life this man lived. Truly a crime that society and women are responsible for.", "surprised he even made it to 43 tbh, no point of living that long as an incel", "I would take him SEA with me.", "It's over for him", "RIP brother", "Holy shit i remember his vids. What happened to him? Suicide?", "How do you know he's dead?", "VirtueSignaller said:How do you know he's dead?His obituary.", "could've got a noodle in SEA", "Schizoidcel said:Forced loneliness kills.Was it suicide or? No cause of death is listed anywhere, that's how much no one cares about truecels dying, they just throw them in the garbage, to be forgotten the day after.He was a catcel Should have posted here.What movie is your sig from? Don't ignore me a second time fag.", "Incline said:I would take him SEA with me.all white incels should save up money and move to thailand JFL", "Wow this breaks my hart, holy fuck.", "VirtueSignaller said:What movie is your sig from? Don't ignore me a second time fag.Don't know tbhihaveno1 said:surprised he even made it to 43 tbh, no point of living that long as an incelLooks like he didn't have what it takes to rope, 40's is around the time your body seems to start failing if you're a drugmaxxing truecel with a shitty diet like him.", "Shigechi said:He lived in his parement's basement his whole life.This is the future for all men. Also no car, no driver licence and hit work twice a day.", "FI don't imagine the mental strength he had to endure it so long.@Alone75@FACEandLMS@outherebrothers", "rest in peace. A miserable life like mine.", "Shigechi said: 125773Jacob Baugh Obituary - Louisville, KYCelebrate the life of Jacob Baugh, leave a kind word or memory and get funeral service information care of Arch L. Heady at Resthaven.www.dignitymemorial.comHe lived in his parement's basement his whole life. RIP truecel.Inceldom drove him to insanity. RIP", "Algeriancel said:I guess he missed the jbw memo.", "RIP", "I would've been his friend. What a nice guy. I hope it wasn't suicide. My condolences to him and his family.I don't know if he was a virgin, if so, a horrible way to go. He was a good looking guy, so who knows.", "He was never truly living tbf.", "RIP.skinnyfatcel", "FrustratedWhiteMale said:I would've been his friend. What a nice guy. I hope it wasn't suicide. My condolences to him and his family.I don't know if he was a virgin, if so, a horrible way to go. He was a good looking guy, so who knows.Just judging by his appearances. He probably was a virgin. And died so at 43. It’s a cruel world.", "sad world we live in", "Requiescat in pace", "He's free now. RIP", "ihaveno1 said:surprised he even made it to 43 tbh, no point of living that long as an incel", "F", "MSCW said:FI don't imagine the mental strength he had to endure it so long.@Alone75@FACEandLMS@outherebrothersThis man obviously has some mental problems and is not a good representative of any community that wants to be taken seriously.", "hänonlutka said:He's free now. RIP", "Someone on Kiwifarms said maybe he had colon cancer but they're not sure.", "FACEandLMS said:This man obviously has some mental problems and is not a good representative of any community that wants to be taken seriously.Yeah that dude was out there for sure.", " What can I say? He is a victim of our times. Times in which a man in the West is considered as somebody unworthy to be happy. Million of other men will die too. There is a war against us going on.", "I will miss this legend I didn't know he died.", "I just saw some of his art. He was actually pretty good", "ihaveno1 said:surprised he even made it to 43 tbh, no point of living that long as an incel", "FACEandLMS said:This man obviously has some mental problems and is not a good representative of any community that wants to be taken seriously.Being ugly for a long time causes you to be mentally ill. If you weren't a tallfag this would be you right now.", "RIP my guy he was truecel", "GeneticFilth said:Being ugly for a long time causes you to be mentally ill. If you weren't a tallfag this would be you right now.So are you trying to say that all ugly people SHOULD be treated like possible criminals or mentally-ill people? Think about your answer for a second.", "Meh, 1 minute into his videos and I can tell he has mental issues.", "FACEandLMS said:So are you trying to say that all ugly people SHOULD be treated like possible criminals or mentally-ill people?Think about your answer for a second.It's caused by the poor treatment people give genetic abomination truecels, so I don't get what you are saying.", "A true wizard, amen.Ngl he looks like a normalfag to me.", "He was too pure for this world, too woke. F", "Could have went SEARIP", "Rip, , now that I will be jobless this will probably my future unless I end my life sooner", "it is over", "He is free from this wretched Earth now. RIP.", "So much to unpack . Just in case you are here, you soyboy faggot, i will answer you: mental illness and being treated like shit by people like you. It's not hard to understand.", "R. I. P.Keep hating wymmen in heaven, bro.", "F, i actually remember his i hate woman video from a few years back, another life claimed by inceldom", "F", "RIP truecel.If only he’d been ethnic, he’d have Stacy riding his cock right now.", "he seemed like he was suffering i guess now he is passed that hell.", "His mother found him in his chair blue is all I have heard. She is witholding information from Jake's dad's side of the family, and disallowing us to attend his funeral. ", "Schizoidcel said:His mother found him in his chair blue is all I have heard. She is witholding information from Jake's dad's side of the family, and disallowing us to attend his funeral. Where did you hear this bro? Also I fucking LOOK LIKE HIM, ngl??!! And I'm dying with Chronic pancreatitus, fml. See you within 2-5 years Jacob Baugh. R.I.P.", "RIP.", "The Incel Dance of Seduction. R.I.P Jacob Baugh you brilliant Mentalcel @Damo the incel", "outherebrothers said:The Incel Dance of Seduction. R.I.P Jacob Baugh you brilliant Mentalcel @Damo the incelHis suffering has come to an end", "outherebrothers said:Where did you hear this bro? Also I fucking LOOK LIKE HIM, ngl??!! And I'm dying with Chronic pancreatitus, fml. See you within 2-5 years Jacob Baugh. R.I.P.Reddit", "FACEandLMS said:So are you trying to say that all ugly people SHOULD be treated like possible criminals or mentally-ill people?Think about your answer for a second.Whats with this faggot? Ugly people get worse treatment no matter what.", "RIP", "Did he live stream it?", "FinnCel said:Did he live stream it?He didn't kill himself, looks like he had a condition already. Good for him, he's free without having to rope.", "RIP dear brother", "Rest in peace... ", "outherebrothers said:The Incel Dance of Seduction. R.I.P Jacob Baugh you brilliant Mentalcel @Damo the incelHe is dancing in heaven now while all the angels sing for him ", "Shigechi said: 125773Jacob Baugh Obituary - Louisville, KYCelebrate the life of Jacob Baugh, leave a kind word or memory and get funeral service information care of Arch L. Heady at Resthaven.www.dignitymemorial.comHe lived in his parement's basement his whole life. RIP truecel." ]
BlackpillHow The Black Pill Evolves Your Mindset
[ "E.g.1 Morality4-13 - Morality is objective and absolute, there is no middle ground13-18 - Morality isn't black and white, its grey19+ - Morality isn't real, it doesn't exist, its an imaginary human concept, it differs from era to era, and country to country within eras, its completely arbitrary and its only purpose is to ensure social order within a society and control the massesE.g. 2 What it means to be a real man4-13 - To grow up and be liked by everyone, be strong and protect those around you, especially women, provide for future wife 13-18 - Be physically strong, attractive, wealthy, have people depend on you19+ - You've already failed as a being with the ability to think introspectively if you are even trying to abide be such a societal standard with limitations and restrictions intertwined into the criteria, don't try to be a real man, just try to get what you want, use any loop hole available to you, standards of manhood are the shackles society place on men to control them via their egoThe more and more you swallow black pills, the more objective, straight forward and ruthless your thinking becomes, looking back on how I used to think as a child to now, is a stark difference. Normies would say you must be unhappy, ironically in comparison to my teenage self I'm actually more happy (satisfied), less stressed out, and here's why, the things that frustrate a growing male the most is not being aware of how the world works, we've all been sold the lie of being nice makes women like you so it confuses our younger selves to no end when we see over and over douche bags and bullies getting all of the women, and we keep getting rejected, something like that builds up and takes route in your psyche and creates a habit of mistrust for authority figures and society as a collective, I would say the lies I've been told at every stage of my life is rooted in the extreme paranoia I have now, which is now a part of my personalityI would say the black pill is when a human truly becomes a human in the truest sense, when they truly stop being just another animal on this planet, when they can be honest about themselves, about the world, and about the human condition, and see the world for what it is. When a human takes the black pill, they finally take the blinders off, its like peaking behind the curtains of the magic show, its nice knowing how the tricks work, but what normies can't handle (people in general) is that it takes away the magic of livingYou see normies like the lies, they like the feeling of suspense and excitement that comes with concepts like love, they don't want to think of it as just brain chemicals even thought that's what they know it is, they don't want to think of it as love, because that ruins the magic of the experience, they are like animals who want to think of nothing but the now and live in the moment", "the blackpill was definitely brutal to swallow and one of the most relieving things at the same time tbh.knowing that some things are set in stone and predetermined already gives you a relief to not berate yourself about them.", "BlkPillPres said:You see normies like the lies, they like the feeling of suspense and excitement that comes with concepts like love, they don't want to think of it as just brain chemicals even thought that's what they know it is, they don't want to think of it as love, because that ruins the magic of the experience, they are like animals who want to think of nothing but the now and live in the momentHigh IQ, normies love to deceive themselves", "Are you completely over the fact that you are ugly, and the limits this has put on your potential? Do you feel bad looking at yourself at all? Do you ruminate about past mistakes? If you have reached that kind of calm detachment I am envious. I have not so far.What you have written could be easily compared to dropping acid in the right mood, and the feeling of peeking behind the curtain it can provide if done right. I agree, especially the not caring whatsoever about what others think of what you are doing. Exploit the clown world.", "Just turn low key dark triad autist (srs)", "IlIlllllIlIl said:Just turn low key dark triad autist (srs)JFL it's either that or doormat as a low quality male specimen.", "stravinsky said:Are you completely over the fact that you are ugly, and the limits this has put on your potential? Do you feel bad looking at yourself at all? Do you ruminate about past mistakes? If you have reached that kind of calm detachment I am envious. I have not so far.I'm almost there. But I relapse into deep depression once a month", "stravinsky said:Are you completely over the fact that you are ugly, and the limits this has put on your potential? Do you feel bad looking at yourself at all? Do you ruminate about past mistakes? If you have reached that kind of calm detachment I am envious. I have not so far.What you have written could be easily compared to dropping acid in the right mood, and the feeling of peeking behind the curtain it can provide if done right. I agree, especially the not caring whatsoever about what others think of what you are doing. Exploit the clown world.Ugliness may limit yourself(and all incels like me and you) in the dating/romantic(sexual) marketbut being ugliness also is not a disability if you do not particupate in the market yourselfthus rendering the market useless, and less worries about being uglyI was like you once, all worried about being ugly, whether or not it would get my exoneitis, I learn to except by ugliness, and in doing so, stopped myself from entering the sexual marketYou can free yourself too, my dudeStop focusing on getting a gf or wife or whatever and focus on what you want.", "stravinsky said:Are you completely over the fact that you are ugly and the limits this has put on your potential?Yes, my ego is dead, the only thing I'm focused on now is how to get what I want as quickly as possibleThe reason why you haven't gotten past where you are stuck mentally, is because you are still focused on normie goals, and tbh you won't get past that wall NO MATTER WHAT until you abandon your ego, so long as you are trying to live up to societal standards, and trying to think of yourself as a great person, etc, you'll always have a normie mentality, and you'll never be able to live up to that ruleset because you aren't attractiveThis is some good advice:BigGhey said:Ugliness may limit yourself(and all incels like me and you) in the dating/romantic(sexual) marketbut being ugliness also is not a disability if you do not particupate in the market yourselfthus rendering the market useless, and less worries about being uglyI was like you once, all worried about being ugly, whether or not it would get my exoneitis, I learn to except by ugliness, and in doing so, stopped myself from entering the sexual marketYou can free yourself too, my dudeStop focusing on getting a gf or wife or whatever and focus on what you want.", "BlkPillPres said:E.g.1 Morality4-13 - Morality is objective and absolute, there is no middle ground13-18 - Morality isn't black and white, its grey19+ - Morality isn't real, it doesn't exist, its an imaginary human concept, it differs from era to era, and country to country within eras, its completely arbitrary and its only purpose is to ensure social order within a society and control the massesE.g. 2 What it means to be a real man4-13 - To grow up and be liked by everyone, be strong and protect those around you, especially women, provide for future wife 13-18 - Be physically strong, attractive, wealthy, have people depend on you19+ - You've already failed as a being with the ability to think introspectively if you are even trying to abide be such a societal standard with limitations and restrictions intertwined into the criteria, don't try to be a real man, just try to get what you want, use any loop hole available to you, standards of manhood are the shackles society place on men to control them via their egoThe more and more you swallow black pills, the more objective, straight forward and ruthless your thinking becomes, looking back on how I used to think as a child to now, is a stark difference. Normies would say you must be unhappy, ironically in comparison to my teenage self I'm actually more happy (satisfied), less stressed out, and here's why, the things that frustrate a growing male the most is not being aware of how the world works, we've all been sold the lie of being nice makes women like you so it confuses our younger selves to no end when we see over and over douche bags and bullies getting all of the women, and we keep getting rejected, something like that builds up and takes route in your psyche and creates a habit of mistrust for authority figures and society as a collective, I would say the lies I've been told at every stage of my life is rooted in the extreme paranoia I have now, which is now a part of my personalityI would say the black pill is when a human truly becomes a human in the truest sense, when they truly stop being just another animal on this planet, when they can be honest about themselves, about the world, and about the human condition, and see the world for what it is. When a human takes the black pill, they finally take the blinders off, its like peaking behind the curtains of the magic show, its nice knowing how the tricks work, but what normies can't handle (people in general) is that it takes away the magic of livingYou see normies like the lies, they like the feeling of suspense and excitement that comes with concepts like love, they don't want to think of it as just brain chemicals even thought that's what they know it is, they don't want to think of it as love, because that ruins the magic of the experience, they are like animals who want to think of nothing but the now and live in the momentMODS IF YOU DONT STICKY THIS I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL KILL YOU ALL, THIS IS THE BEST FUCKING THREAD IVE EVER READ.IlIlllllIlIl said:Just turn low key dark triad autist (srs)Pretty much this. Better than being a deluded normie cuck,", "The blackpill didn't changed my mindset in such a way. The blackpill gave me proofs that I was 100% right, backed up by science every commonsensical anecdotes that was popular science for most males.", "GeneticDysfunction said:MODS IF YOU DONT STICKY THIS I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL KILL YOU ALL, THIS IS THE BEST FUCKING THREAD IVE EVER READ.Too extremist so it won't be stickied lol, remember the mods are trying to peddle black pill lite to normies in fear of triggering them into trying to get the site banned, threads like these they'd prefer fade into the background", "In the end we are free of there manipulation.", "BlkPillPres said:Too extremist so it won't be stickied lol, remember the mods are trying to peddle black pill lite to normies in fear of triggering them into trying to get the site banned, threads like these they'd prefer fade into the backgroundThis thread explains the philosophies and ideologies of the blackpill in a clear, concise and easy to understand manner. If anything, normies would understand what the blackpill is from this post more than any other post.", "BlkPillPres said:Too extremist so it won't be stickied lol, remember the mods are trying to peddle black pill lite to normies in fear of triggering them into trying to get the site banned, threads like these they'd prefer fade into the backgroundThats fucking gay, this thread is god iq tierIncelKing said:This thread explains the philosophies and ideologies of the blackpill in a clear, concise and easy to understand manner. If anything, normies would understand what the blackpill is from this post more than any other post.", "Bump for newfag greycels ", "GeneticDysfunction said:MODS IF YOU DONT STICKY THIS I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL KILL YOU ALL, THIS IS THE BEST FUCKING THREAD IVE EVER READ.Pretty much this. Better than being a deluded normie cuck,BlkPillPres said:Too extremist so it won't be stickied lol, remember the mods are trying to peddle black pill lite to normies in fear of triggering them into trying to get the site banned, threads like these they'd prefer fade into the background@your personality @WØLF thoughts? Perhaps the reason the blackpill can't go mainstream is because the mods censor anything that could blackpill the normies too much?" ]
SeriousI Relate To This Characters Motivations So Much (Garou - One Punch Man)
[ "Monsters have things they want, tooand monsters try really hard...So why do they always end up getting killed?I root for them!, What about what I think?!monsters are just coolerWhy should the popular win, while the hated lose?Its tragic!If that's how the world works...I'll become the strongest monster, and I will lose to no oneGarou has definitely made it into my fav anime characters list, basically the only reason I'm watching one punch man right nowI remember when I first watch the episode for that scene (Season 2 Episode 4), it caught me off guard, I never expected to see a scene like that in my entire life, it captured something I thought about the world perfectly, shit hit me harder than I thought possible, I legit felt myself about to tear upAs the years went on from my teens into adulthood I I started to see myself as the antagonist of this world, because the dreams I had, the things I wanted, were in direct conflict with the world, and were labelled as bad or evil. I noticed that I'd be rooting for villains in tv series and anime because their aspirations aligned with mines more, the goals and aspirations of the heroes were always cliche and surface level, they never aim for anything of true greatness, its always just about pointless simple things that lead nowhere for themInto my late teens and onward, I always had one impossible dream, to be the end of everything, if I could wipe out everything, the entire planet, I could die completely satisfiedThe real reason I likely haven't gone ER yet is because a few dozen people is not enough for me, nor is even millions and it never will be enough, I could never kill that few many people and tell myself that's good enough. I want billions, I want a humanity on the brink of extinction level feat, nobody even has to know that I caused it, I just need to know and that would be enough (but if I could make such a thing happen letting normies know and watching them rage and rush to kill me would be most satisfying, I would gladly accept my death then, them getting to kill me is the least I could offer them JFL)", "Garou is pretty based until you see Saitama unintentionally defeat him twice, still a cool character though", "TheSecondComing said:Garou is pretty based until you see Saitama unintentionally defeat him twice, still a cool character thoughI've already watched the most recent episode, I only hearkened back to it after seeing the scene where he deflected all the bullets from death gattling to protect the boy in the shedThat moment when he said: Watch carefully!, witness the moment when the monster is victorious!Reminded me of episode 4, went back to watch it again", "Literally sympathy for the devil.Relating to villains is an incel trait, I bet. I was, and am, this way as well.", "KekAnime is cope.", "Alfen said:KekAnime is cope.Its entertainment, but every once in a while you find an archtype character that stands out and you can related too, which you likely won't find in western cartoons or tv series tbh", "Hell said: 125911to go beyond this view point of good and evilBased garou as always, one of the most black pilled charactersPlease no spoilers though, I can tell this entire series will be animated over years and I want to witness all the greatness in HD", "BlkPillPres said:Based garou", "BlkPillPres said:to go beyond this view point of good and evilBased garou as always, one of the most black pilled charactersPlease no spoilers though, I can tell this entire series will be animated over years and I want to witness all the greatness in HDI'm pretty sure that part was from the last episode, I don't think they got his point across well enough.", "I got most of the comics but I still have a few volumes left to collect. I can relate to both Saitama and Garou and I can to relate to their character.", "seija said:I got most of the comics but I still have a few volumes left to collect. I can relate to both Saitama and Garou and I can to relate to their character.How can you relate to saitama?Someone who is so high tier he can breeze through life effortlessly and is bored because nothing is really a challenge to himSaitama is basically the personification of Chad in that series, they only made him bald and plain looking for comedic effect, but his persona is literally Chad, effortless victories in life, and insurmountable power that no amount of effort can ever reach, and he's oblivious as to why he is so powerful (like Chad, who often thinks its because he's a hard worker and a good person)", "BlkPillPres said:How can you relate to saitama?Someone who is so high tier he can breeze through life effortlessly and is bored because nothing is really a challenge to himSaitama is basically the personification of Chad in that series, the only made him bald and plain looking for comedic effect, but his persona is literally Chad, effortless victories in life, and insurmountable power that no amount of effort can ever reach, and he's oblivious as to why he is so powerful (like Chad, who often thinks its because he's a hard worker and a good person)It isn't because of his powers or his Chad-like appearance, its the satisfaction of finding something challenging to do finding something that challenges the very soul. This brings out a rush of dopamine & adrenaline that makes anybody feel good. Just take a look at Garou hes been through those situations & scenarios multiple times in the manga & anime and even the final fight in the webcomic shows this.I can relate to Saitama because of his goal to find something or someone to fight and give a challenge to him. Its because Saitama has a void inside of him and I can somewhat relate to that part of him specifically because I feel like that life won't ever become exciting or fulfilling in any sort of way that fill up that void.", "seija said:It isn't because of his powers or his Chad-like appearance, its the satisfaction of finding something challenging to do finding something that challenges the very soul. This brings out a rush of dopamine & adrenaline that makes anybody feel good. Just take a look at Garou hes been through those situations & scenarios multiple times in the manga & anime and even the final fight in the webcomic shows this.I can relate to Saitama because of his goal to find something or someone to fight and give a challenge to him. Its because Saitama has a void inside of him and I can somewhat relate to that part of him specifically because I feel like that life won't ever become exciting or fulfilling in any sort of way that fill up that void.JFL don't me you're one of those guys that believes you can only be happy in life if you are constantly jumping from problem to problem, calling these things challenges is really just misleading, challenge is just a euphemism for problem, a nice and optimisitic way of saying problem. If you like challenges so much then aren't you glad you are an incel, you have to face the ultimate challenge of a man born in this era, congratulations, aren't you satisfied everyday with how challenging this ordeal is?Are you feeling that dopamine and adrenaline rush of struggling in life?, do you feel good? Dude one of the most blue pilled cliche beliefs the average normie has, is that you can only enjoy things that you put effort in to get, that's complete BS, maybe someone who is ego obsessed gets that experience, but a black piller won't, if I earned a million dollars or I just woke up with a million dollars, its a million dollars all the same to me, I don't care about effort, I only care about the destination not the journey", "BlkPillPres said:JFL don't me you're one of those guys that believes you can only be happy in life if you are constantly jumping from problem to problem, calling these things challenges is really just misleading, challenge is just a euphemism for problem, a nice and optimisitic way of saying problem. If you like challenges so much then aren't you glad you are an incel, you have to face the ultimate challenge of a man born in this era, congratulations, aren't you satisfied everyday with how challenging this ordeal is?Are you feeling that dopamine and adrenaline rush of struggling in life?, do you feel good? Dude one of the most blue pilled cliche beliefs the average normie has, is that you can only enjoy things that you put effort in to get, that's complete BS, maybe someone who is ego obsessed gets that experience, but a black piller won't, if I earned a million dollars or I just woke up with a million dollars, its a million dollars all the same to me, I don't care about effort, I only care about the destination not the journeyI don't care about materialism or the reward or the journey at all. I don't even care about jumping into some sort of problem, I honestly just want a quiet life but the yearning for something to do and my ideals contradicts the quiet lifestyle that I want. I'm talking about fighting to the death, putting your life at risk every single day and being afraid of everything around you. This is the only thing that truly fills someones void and they realize their individuality by surviving, by being on top. I don't even value my own life and because of this I truly got nothing to lose, you don't care about losing your copes, your materialistic possessions and your family & friends because all you care about is yourself. Going ER is a great example of this.I was mostly talking about the fights in the anime and how they connect to the human psyche but this turned into something else entirely. But I'll say this, I truly believe in the survival of the fittest & Darwinism mentality. Unfortunately because of western society, we're so passive to the point that nobody will truly fight for what they stand for, they're absolute cowards. (aka Cucks)", "Garoucel want to fight back. ", "Salustio said:Garoucel want to fight back.", "yo" ]