An essay on why this is wrong

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by Spottedleaf73658 - opened

Let's be honest here. We don't really need AI. Just because we can be lazy doesn't mean we should be. Self-driving cars will crash and burn. Literally. People will stop proofreading code and accidentally release computer viruses onto the web. If you're not actually doing your homework, there's no point in going to school, so you should probably just drop out and accept that you'll be working as a Starbucks barista for the rest of your life if you don't actually do the work. This stuff makes people go absolutely crazy if they use it too much. They had to ban getting married to an AI in Ohio to prevent it from happening.

And, let's be really honest. Copyright infringement is stealing somebody's work without their consent. Feeding the URLs to a bot gives them the work that you stole. That gives them access to the actual work. Therefore, scraping is, in fact, stealing. Giving it a different name doesn't change the true nature. A lion and a bobcat are both still cats, even though they have different names. A cedar and a pine are still both trees, even if you call them different things. Somebody who scrapes websites is still a thief, even if you call them something different.

I'm about to get a little angry here:
There are tons of aspiring artists out there whose dreams have been crushed because nobody can just WAIT. You could draw it yourself. You can go online and find that there are BOATLOADS of artists with open commissions and requests. You could ACTUALLY TAKE TIME AND PUT EFFORT INTO WORK, OR YOU COULD FEED WHAT YOU WANT TO AN EMOTIONLESS BOT!!!!! I just wanted to make art. I just wanted to exist. But NO, NOBODY COULD LEAVE A SINGLE SOUL ALONE!!! INSTEAD, THEY HAVE TO STEAL OUR ART AND LEAVE US TO BE CALLED FAKE ARTISTS BECAUSE AI STOLE OUR FREAKING ART STYLES!!!!!!!!

Anyway, my crash-out is over (sorry about that, I'm on my period lol).
Thank you for reading this. If you have any arguments, we can debate.

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Just because I don't agree with your opinions doesn't mean I don't know as much. A BELIEF can't be wrong. A BELIEF is something that you back up through your words and actions. Maybe this data set WILL be used to train AI models. Maybe there ISN'T anything I can do about it. But that's a maybe. You can NEVER say WILL when people are taking a stand against something that they, as a community, believe. To you, maybe, you were talking to someone who wasn't going to stand up for themself. Honestly, if you hadn't started by calling me a retard, I probably WOULDN'T have responded. I know for a fact I'm younger than you are, and I wrote an ESSAY. You wrote two sentences and a word. That won't stop me. Why call me a retard when you're a chicken in wolf's clothing?

An essay is structured and coherent. Anyone can vomit out a rant like you have. I really hope you didn't spend more than a couple of minutes writing that, because an AI would've written a structurally sound appeal that isn't bile and anger in only a few seconds

Retard. Nobody here wants to discuss this and you won't change anyone's mind. This dataset will be used to train ai models (when suitable) and there is nothing you can do about it.

Then don't start crying even more than you AI-loving vermin already do when you get the hate and harassment you rightfully deserve.

Everyone here needs to calm down.

Calling people slurs is not acceptable, nor is brigading a huggingface dataset.

Yeah kind of weird after you guys called for "digital vandalism" in the wake of a highly publicized scraping event, then came here just to rage bait the Artists who are just trying to report the unauthorized use of their content. Your words "Retard. Nobody here wants to discuss this and you won't change anyone's mind. This dataset will be used to train ai models (when suitable) and there is nothing you can do about it.".

Yeah kind of weird after you guys called for "digital vandalism" in the wake of a highly publicized scraping event, then came here just to rage bait the Artists who are just trying to report the unauthorized use of their content. Your words "Retard. Nobody here wants to discuss this and you won't change anyone's mind. This dataset will be used to train ai models (when suitable) and there is nothing you can do about it.".

Who are you quoting?

Nope. You yourself already gave a partial confession, and you came here with malice and an intent to upset people. You can be the one to sweat now.

Nope. You yourself already gave a partial confession, and you came here with malice and an intent to upset people. You can be the one to sweat now.

Only time I ever sweat is when I'm working out or have a bad trip, if you're sweating over any of this (and this applies to anyone) reconsider your life path.

While I personally sympathize with you, and understand the person who made this dataset has done it explicitly in bad faith, coming to a platform dedicated to ML practitioners and telling us that our field is useless is a bit crass.
scraping publicly available data is not inherently stealing, though in this case in my opinion it is and at least unethical, your best bets are contacting hugging face and or reporting this dataset.
also kind of irresponsible of the platform you were using not to put in guard rails in place to avoid this kind of thing if it has placed such a big emphasis on being anti AI.
best of luck

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