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a: uh, you know whether you thought it was more of a biased or whatever a: but i, i guess you wouldn't. a: you probably, a: if you just watched it during the gulf war, that probably wouldn't wouldn't tell you much. b: yeah,
b: well during that small sample, i would think that everyone was just about, just about the same, except the three networks, radio television programming. a: yeah. b: so, if at a particular time, you wanted to get the latest and greatest news you could do that by, uh, turning on c n n a: yeah. b: and you,
a: anyway, uh b: how about you. b: what do you do with your budget? a: what do i do, a: uh, at the moment it's under chaos.
a: uh, right now i'm just, uh, a: i, i don't really have a budget per se. a: i'm, i, uh, it's called living within your means you know, which means at the moment, paying off the visa bill and keeping everything else under control and hoping the car doesn't collapse b: uh-huh. b: yeah.
b: that's true. a: uh, but, uh, no a: i don't really have a budget at the moment. a: uh, but i have uh, i have a rough feel for how much money i can afford to spend each month a: and then i don't, usually don't exceed that unless i, unless the visa bill gets out of hand for one reason or another, like if i have car expenses
a: and then that, then it goes through the moon, a: so. b: yeah, b: that's sort of a problem. a: yeah,
a: so uh, what do b: we're trying, we're trying to, uh, b: so far we are in the clear credit wise b: but, uh, the other side of it is, b: so, not much on that side of it to add to it.
b: we're trying to think of how to put away some savings and stuff like that b: but, a: so you can afford to get a house? b: yeah, b: we'd like to do that some day.
b: we have this dream. a: yeah. b: but, we don't know how long it will be a dream. b: we, we're kind of real, we're real happy that we don't have any debt, b: but we're at the same time we're real scared about incurring it in this, uh, economy right now
b: so we're stepping real careful and trying to see what's the best way to save what, the little bit that we do get, you know, on top of expenses every month. a: yeah. a: so, what do you and your husband do? b: we're missionaries actually. a: are you really?
b: yeah, b: uh-huh. b: and, uh, it will be easier once we get overseas cause we have, uh, like, uh, uh, support quota a: um. b: and it's cheaper to live overseas than it is to live here.
a: no kidding. b: and it doesn't get switched very easily once you come home. a: i see. b: so, a: overseas, where would you be going?
b: africa, b: nigeria. a: really. b: yeah. a: really.
a: how long would you be there? b: about four years. b: we're career b: so, we, we go over seas for four years b: and then we come back for a year.
b: we go over four, b: we come back for a year. a: with, with what church? b: uh, we're with wycliff bible translators. a: oh yes.
a: yes, b: so. a: i, uh, i know who they are. a: they, uh, they have an office, uh, in in costa mesa as i recall. b: yeah,
b: they could very well b: and, a: there, there was, uh, you know, there was a fairly large building that that was well that belongs to them. a: so, uh, are you, uh, are you, uh, active in translation? b: uh, we will be.
b: i was over, over four years doing language surveying which is the first step. b: you're kind of like the scout that goes ahead of the team and assesses the need. a: uh-huh b: and, uh, came home and got married b: and we will go back as translators cause we want to raise a family
b: and it is easier to raise a family as translators. b: well, i always wanted to do translation, b: but as long as i was single and foot loose so to speak it's easier. b: you know they really need surveyors cause you could, you're free to travel anywhere. b: you don't have kids hanging around you and stuff.
a: true, a: true enough. a: so, uh, what, what, uh, what languages do you speak besides english, of course? b: well, i have a smattering of about ten different ones, b: but there's,
b: i'm not bilingual in any of them because i kept switching from one area to the other, you know, b: since i did you know, complete a survey in one area, i'd switch to the other. a: uh-huh b: so i know the greetings in about ten, and how to do market stuff, b: but in about, uh, about five i guess, i can do better in it.
b: and my french is pretty good b: but it's, uh, french b: so, uh, i'm terrified to speak in, uh in france. a: in france. b: yeah,
b: because they're real snobby about their language b: and french is street french b: and i just picked it up off the street b: and i knew what i was, i knew what i was communicating, b: but i didn't know what i was saying.
b: i never sat there and got a direct translation b: and said something here when i came home and french to somebody b: and he paled and said, uh, i'm not going to tell you what you said. b: so, since then i have refrained from speaking any french b: so.
b: in a: uh, b: i don't know what i said to him b: but, uh, i didn't ask him either. a: must have been terrible.
a: the, uh, a: was it henry macon said that the, the, uh, language was like a man slowly bleeding to death. a: so they hemorrhaged him to death without new infusions that will eventually die a: and i, it just amazes me that the french don't recognize that. a: free style english is just,
a: takes on, a: uh, some of my things, a: i, i'd like to have a short work week you know, b: oh, okay. a: and and we need, you know, better health insurance and you know,
b: okay, b: we can start off there. b: let's just get started. a: okay. b: if you don't want to, you know, uh, talk about it now and then be bored when we get to it
a: okay. a: okay, a: so i just press one then a: right? b: right.
a: okay, a: ready? b: yep. a: okay b: so, so you think, uh, i think that a short work week is real nice.
b: uh, i have a thirty-seven hour work week. b: how about you? a: well, well right now, i, i'm just a student. a: i only work part time, a: but i've work in the job force before
b: uh-huh. a: and forty hours is just too long. a: you just don't have any time to do anything. a: it seems like, saturday you get get off, a: but sunday you're getting ready for monday.
a: and if we get have a if we could have a thirty-two hour work week, with that happen is that, for every four people we could give another job. b: uh-huh. b: right. a: and then that way everybody would have a three day holiday, okay. a: and that way that more, that would make a bigger market.
a: we'd have, uh, more recreation. a: people would have time to do it. a: there would be less of a stress level. a: we'd have, we'd have less crime. a: we'd have to we'd have to build less prisons, you know, less police force.
b: yeah, b: it all makes sense to me. b: although, there may be more crime. i mean if people have more leisure time. b: it's not clear. b: and that,
a: it, it, that's, that's a possibility. b: yeah. a: one, one of the problems they're facing now, a lot of people now, is that the health insurance is that the small business can't, can't offer health insurance b: uh-huh. a: and it, it's too costly
a: and what, what is happening is that they're on a policy where they have x amount of users in it, okay. a: so they get a specific rate. a: well what happens is that if people start becoming having chronic illness and, and things like that, a: what happened and where they really have to spend out a lot of money for one particular, b: right.
a: it's called a a group, a: well what will, well what happens then is that they cancel, because they just can't cancel an individual. a: so they, they have to cancel just like life insurance. a: they have to cancel everything. b: uh-huh.
a: so what they do is that, that they cancel the insurance a: and then all the people don't have any insurance coverage. b: right. b: so, a: but, i'm, i'm, you know, i'm, i'm satisfied with my job.
a: i'm, i'm an engineering student. b: right. a: and i work for my instructor a: and i'm i'm not a typical student. a: i'm, i'm older.
a: i'm, i'm in my thirties, okay. b: yeah. a: and so i have a lot of job experience a: and my instructor thrives on that because he can just tell me what he wants a: and he can give me access and tell me what to do and just turn me loose
b: yeah. a: but in, in the same token, it's a very, really enjoyable for me because i don't have to have, you know, nobody breathing down my back a: and and one of the things that i, i really hate about jobs. i don't, i don't like bosses that, that you know want to yell at you and you know are down on your back and all this and that. b: uh-huh. a: i, i just really can't deal with that
a: so, b: yeah a: what kind of, what kind of jobs have you done? b: well, well, i do uh, research in computer science b: and i've just been doing that for a few years now
b: so uh, i, my job has most of the benefits i want. a: uh-huh. b: uh, what i really like is, i like being, b: like they send me to conferences for instance, but probably not as much as i'd like b: but, uh, you know, that's just nice being, you know, having a company being able to give you time to do that sort of thing and sort of,
b: uh, they also, b: a really important thing to me is when they, uh, they pay for continuing education. b: like, i, i get night courses that they they'll cover right now b: and that's really good a: yeah,
a: that's just great. a: you have what you might call knowledge power b: right. a: you know, when when you work at a company whether you know it or not, is that you're categorized. a: some people can be let go and replaced like, uh, say, uh, a typist, uh, somebody who does data entry or answers the telephone or receptionist.
a: but if you're a person who, that's doing computer type things and you have the, you have the knowledge, you know what the system you've revised and revamped the system, well then you're you're vital to the company b: uh-huh. a: and you get more benefits a: so. that's where i, i, i'm like, a: i'm into computers too
a: and that's one of the things that i've found in any one, one of these jobs and anything i've done is that to have knowledge. a: when you have the knowledge, you're you're not going to, uh, you know, be let go, a: be one of the last ones to let go anyway. b: right. a: so what i,
a: well, what were you saying? b: okay. b: i, i think we're started now. a: oh, okay. b: uh, do you want to go ahead and start?
a: uh, well, i haven't really been up to date on a lot of music. a: i've been in school a: and i haven't really gone out, and bought any or listened to much on the, on the radio except for classical a: and, uh, b: well, you like classical music?
a: yes. b: uh, i like classical music. b: i like rock and roll. a: uh-huh. b: i like country and western
a: okay. b: uh, i, i like all kinds b: i like, i like different things about each one of them. a: well, i like most of them except for country music. b: oh you don't like country?
a: no. a: i think i, i might like dancing to it a: but i don't like listening to it. b: the, the kind of country i like is kind of the older country music. not the, not the kind like kenny rodgers and stuff like that. a: oh.
b: that's, uh, that's a little bit to, uh, b: they're trying to make it too much of a crossover thing, b: you know what i mean? a: uh-huh. a: what's the old country music like?
b: oh, like, like hank williams. b: like the old hank williams. b: even, even hank williams, junior is real good stuff. a: uh-huh. b: the kind that
a: oh, okay. b: uh, this stuff, makes you cry it sounds so sad b: i mean you a: that's the kind you like you mean? b: yeah.
b: sometimes i do. b: i mean, not all the time. a: oh. a: oh, okay. a: well, i guess i, i like the blues a lot
a: and i guess you could say it's similar as far as the kind of the way they do it. b: yes. b: and i i, i do too. b: i also like jazz. a: yeah.
a: me too, too. a: i guess i like a: except heavy metal a: and, uh, most rap i don't like. a: yeah.
b: yeah. b: you're, you're about like i am b: i, i can't, watch m t v anymore. b: i used to love m t v. a: oh, okay.
b: and i can, i can barely watch anymore because, uh, they have this heavy metal stuff on there b: and, and i can't even, you know, i can't like that. a: yeah. b: and, and i liked, uh, aerosmith and led zepplin and, uh you know, and, uh, jeez who else is there. van halen. a: uh-huh.
a: okay. a: okay. a: yeah. b: now i like, i like groups like that. b: but when you get, uh,
b: i, i even like guns and roses, some of their stuff. a: uh-huh. b: but, uh, some of these groups now like slaughter a: oh, i, i really haven't listened to that b: some of them are just really rough.
b: so, so you went to school then in, b: i'm surprised you didn't go to, to any parties or anything where they were playing a lot of music or stuff b: or, a: well, uh, i used to a long time ago a: but since i've started back into school now, i haven't really done that much.
a: i've been pretty busy. uh b: okay. a: but, uh, a: so no a: i haven't.
a: i, you know, i used to go out and dance a lot a: but i don't do that anymore either a: so. b: oh, i see. b: are you married at all?
a: no b: okay a: i've just been real busy with, with lots of other things. b: well, how old are you? a: twenty-eight.
b: okay. b: so, you, you were out of you went to school for awhile and quit. then went back. a: well, no. a: i, i went to school and got a degree a: and then i worked for awhile.
a: and then i just started, i started back a year and a half ago. a: changed directions. b: oh, okay. a: yeah. a: how old are you?
b: oh, i'm, uh, twenty-eight b: i was born in sixty-three b: i guess we're the same age then. a: oh, okay a: all right.
a: yeah. a: and, uh, i didn't really start getting into music until i went to college because, uh, my parents didn't really have music in the house. a: put it that way. b: oh, b: were they religious?
a: yes. b: uh, i see. b: i, a: so, i'm always behind. a: i'm, i'm not, i'm never really up to date on all that stuff.
a: but i know what i like when it's, uh, when i like a sound. a certain kind of sound, a: yeah. b: my parents were very musical. b: my mother had a piano in the, in the house. a: uh,
a: uh-huh. b: my father likes, uh, country western music. a: okay. b: he's from, uh, west virginia. b: so that's what he grew up listening to.
a: uh-huh. b: and he's always liked it b: and, and, you know, he's probably about fifty-three years old now, b: so he grew up like in the late fifties b: and you know, when they had that, the elvis presley music and stuff like that. and that kind of rock and roll
a: huh. a: yeah, a: yeah. b: so he likes that. b: and my mom always liked that kind of stuff.
b: my mom likes like, uh, doris day, you know. a: oh, really. b: she always had those, these old doris day records and stuff like that, though. a: oh, well. b: so, you know, i grew up listening to that stuff.
a: yeah. b: but, uh, i could see why you went, uh, you know, i could see why you were kind of sheltered i guess from, from music. a: yeah. a: well, i, i do play the piano, you know b: oh, okay.
a: but, uh, i, i like the, uh, early seventies, late sixties rock. kind of stuff, the old stuff. b: oh, okay. a: and, uh, b: yeah, b: so do i.
a: uh, b: do you like, uh, like van halen or anything like that? b: or how about brian adams? a: what kind of music is, does what songs does he play? b: it, it,
b: this love cuts like a knife. uh, summer of sixty-nine. a: uh-huh. a: i think i've heard summer of sixty-nine. b: yeah. b: he sings that.
a: yeah. b: he's, he's from canada. a: okay. a: i'm not, i'm not very good at remembering the, uh titles, b: the titles and artists.
a: yeah, a: but i can remember this, the song. a: yeah. b: well, do do you watch music television, m t v at all? or v h one? a: yeah
a: no, a: i don't watch t v much at all. b: okay. a: so. b: do, do you get cable?
a: no. b: oh, b: okay. b: that's, that's a: no.
b: you have to get cable to get those stations anyhow. a: yeah. a: so. b: but, uh, yeah. b: i like to watch rock and roll videos and any kind of videos.
a: uh-huh. b: i like watching that kind of thing. b: it's, a: do you like, uh, like someone recent? like enya? a: have you ever head of her.
a: she's not rock a: but she, she's from ireland. b: no, b: i haven't heard her. b: oh, okay.
a: and, uh, she's gotten some, uh, she's been on like the top ten, i guess, or whatever. b: oh, really. a: she, she did a: okay. b: so how serious is the, subject of crime in your area?
a: well, needless to say, here in washington, d c this is the war zone. a: uh, d c around here stands for drug capital or death capital. a: it's, uh, it's really bad here. a: uh, for example, the, uh, local high school, uh, they've already found two students with sawed off shotguns b: jeez.
a: and they're starting to, uh, get these hand held metal detectors so they can inspect the kids every morning when they come to school, of all things. a: so, b: well, luckily, it hasn't gotten that bad here. a: uh-huh. b: uh, san jose actually has a pretty good record in terms of being relatively low on violent crime.
a: uh-huh. b: uh, but it's on the uprise, especially in a lot of the, uh, outlying agricultural towns. uh, because you end up having a lot of gangs forming, uh, largely around the hispanic core. a: uh-huh. a: uh-huh. b: uh, it seems to be that, uh, gang warfare follows very rapidly on the heels of poverty conditions.
a: uh-huh, a: right. a: that's how they, uh, they bind themselves together in groups, i guess a: and, uh, b: yeah.
a: now, the, a: interestingly enough, i don't think we have here, a, a lot of gangs, but, uh, only a couple, uh of, not a whole large group of them, but, uh, just a few. most of them centered around, uh, drug territory. b: uh-huh. b: uh-huh. a: and so they're protecting their economic interests, i guess.
b: yeah a: and, uh, nowadays the latest thing i've, i've read about in the paper here that they're doing as far as, uh, crimes involving stealing cars is that, instead of stealing, uh, cars like at night, breaking into them or whatever, they will pick out a car that they want and wait until you show up, a: and then as you get out of the car, they just, uh, step up and, uh, take the keys off of you and drive the car away and leave you standing in front of your house. b: well, that's efficient. a: yeah,
a: that's the, uh, latest thing. a: that way there's no damage to the car or anything. a: they just wait for you to show up after they've picked out which one they want. b: they're decided they're completely unworried about being identified or anything of that sort. a: uh-huh.
a: right. a: just wait for you to drive to your house, a: you get out a: and they get in a: off they go with your car.
b: wow. a: so it's, a: uh, i think they call it car jacking around here b: yeah, b: yeah,
b: i'd heard that phrase. a: uh-huh, a: yeah, a: that's kind of the latest thing, a: but every year in the d c area it gets progressively worse as far as the number of homicides,
a: so it's, uh, it's unfortunate that we feel sometimes even that we have to bring our kids up in this area because we're not from around here, a: we're from, uh, i'm from ohio a: and my wife's from florida a: so, b: uh-huh.