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anything other than what I am? And that was to be a married man. Do you think that you could have a kind of relationship like you have with your wife, with another man? No. I tell him that these kind of long-term, marriage-like relationships are commonplace among the gay men I know. In the suburbs, it's not commonplace... |
when she realized that her father wasn't what he seemed. I suggested to Jerry that his own daughters might feel betrayed, might find it hard to trust him if someday they find out he's been less than candid about his sexuality. He didn't agree. Shall we take the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus in that context too, that you... |
a lot of the things that could hurt you, because they were your parents. Their job was to protect you. Her situation is that her father was, on the surface anyway, presented the image of being a family man, a very religious man-- Right. --was a musician in their church. And so there was this constant lie, because-- Whe... |
I think that was his privilege. How much do you need to know a person to love them, to live with them? Jerry says he talks to about 260 men a year in the support group he leads for gay and bisexual married men. He says he urges men to think very seriously about what they'll be giving up if they choose to quit their mar... |
we choose a theme, invite a variety of writers and artists to take a whack at that theme with monologues, documentaries, short fiction, short radio plays, anything we can think of. Today's program, Double Lives. Act Three, Lighten Up. Up until now, we've been hearing about pretty serious lies, told between parents and ... |
our theme today. It's by Greg Allen, a recent father himself. Twenty-one lies I will tell my children. Go. Number one. If you don't get down, you're going to break your neck. Two. Santa's coming. Three. Mommy was just, um, singing. Go back to bed. Four. I will never forget this for as long as I live. Five. I'm sure he ... |
that. Thirteen. No one is going to notice a little pimple. Fourteen. Sex is the expression of love and devotion. Fifteen. It doesn't matter about the new car. All that matters is that you're OK. Sixteen. I'm going to kill you. Seventeen. Sure. I like your boyfriend. He's just different. Eighteen. I was just closing my ... |
to sex. Recently, I had this experience. An ex-girlfriend was in the gym, looking through a copy of a Marie Claire magazine, a woman's magazine. And there was an article in it on women's fantasies, their sexual fantasies, "What Do Your Man's Dirty Daydreams Reveal About What He Wants from You?" In the article, six sexp... |
man wants a woman who excites him through her own excitement. You could stimulate yourself while he watches or let him participate by moving his hand to where you want it." Yeah. That's you being quoted in Marie Claire. [LAUGHTER] You're kidding. What issue? All I know is that Anaheed was at the gym. And she opens up M... |
it wasn't like you were a sexpert and you were keeping it from your family? Um. You're talking about my family, meaning my children, not my husband? Yeah. Because he knows that I'm a sexpert. And you can call him to verify that. I think I'm just going to let that go. But my children always seem embarrassed if I discuss... |
In fact, I even remember as a teenager understanding that and being kind of reassured by it. Uh-huh. Does that make any sense? It makes a little bit of sense. But it really doesn't cover all the situations, if I'm just telling a joke or talking about somebody else. And I think it has to do with boundaries. And I think ... |
feeling a profound-- Oh, actually I heard a wonderful-- Wait a minute, no-- I heard a wonderful joke, but I don't even know if it's a joke or story. Because this is like something that might be true. Uh-huh. That when Neil Armstrong walked on the moon, and he said, one giant step for man and one-- what is it? One giant... |
what did you mean when you said, "Good luck, Mr. Gorki? And he said, well, I can tell now, because Mr. Gorki died this year. When I was a little boy, Mr. Gorki was our next door neighbor. And I was playing outside one day. And their bedroom window was open. And I heard Mrs. Gorki say, "Oral sex? You want me to give you... |
let me read you some of your other quotes here. All right. In the fantasy of man dominates woman, you're quoted as saying-- says Dr. Glass, quote, "In a caring relationship, it's certainly not abusive or unhealthy if the fantasy is played out in a light, teasing way." You're also quoted extensively in fantasy number fi... |
Have you gone to a restaurant with Dad and pretended you didn't know each other? No. No. No. No. But if you did, you're saying that-- We've gone to restaurants with you and pretended we didn't know you. [LAUGHTER] What do you mean by that? Well, when you were younger and-- --let's say that your manner of dressing didn'... |
clothes. So now that I know that you're this big sexpert, do you have any sex advice for me? Find a nice girl and get married. That's not sex advice. We always end up this way, don't we? With that particular advice, yeah. That's the lady I know. I could ask you any question and that would be the advice. Well, that was ... |
does it do to children if parents tell a big lie for years? Part of Susan Bergman's book, Anonymity, is her trying to understand the two parts of her father, strict, religious, family man; promiscuous, gay, night clubber. His personality was split in half, she writes, into two irreconcilable halves. But part of her boo... |
moves around in my body. This is what I mean. You can't tell by looking. He makes love to her. He has asked her a question once or twice, and she has heard herself reply with an avoidance, "Is there anything you haven't told me? I want to know more of you, Susan." They spent last evening on opposite ends of the house, ... |
about between me and anyone here tonight. Most definitely nothing's up with Tom." She concentrates on slowing down, as she hangs up her belt and tosses her stockings in a basket of hand washing. "You're doing this jealous thing again. What kind of look?" "Do you have any secrets from me?" "A few." She'll keep it light.... |
truth. Two and more irreconcilable parts, which let me understand my father, or made me into him. Here was my father's ailment again, his dread of being known. There's a family with children on the line. I force my family to serve as the same kind of false front I was raised to be from my father. Our presence testified... |
and in the hurried tone of my voice, in the shape of my ribs. What if, lights on, as is, he had asked us to love him? I opened the book I had slipped into my jacket pocket and read, "Lord, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? Who shall dwell on thy holy hill? He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and spea... |
I had wronged, and whom I desperately wanted to love me, to cancel my ongoing lie, my maintaining the family pattern of dishonesty. My husband couldn't bear ever to look at me again. Hadn't my family put him through enough already? Wasn't I a hard pill he had to swallow and swallow? He would remarry within the year, a ... |
the question simply, the same one as before. That morning, I had sat in the sun, and read, and drunk my coffee, uninterrupted. Maybe it was a morning unlike any my father had ever been given. When Judson came home later that morning, is when he asked, "Is there something you'd like to tell me?" There was a reason my hu... |
as I knew it. "Whatever the consequence," I said inside my head to remind myself, breathing once. He could tell in the stillness of the pause between his question and my looking back up at him, that his life was changing too. Today's program was produced by Alix Spiegel and myself, with Dolores Wilber, Peter Clowney, a... |
sex? You want me to give you oral sex? You'll get oral sex from me the day that boy next door walks on the moon. I'm Ira Glass. Back next week, with more stories of This American Life. |
From WBEZ Chicago and Public Radio International, it's This American Life. I'm Ira Glass. And let me do something that I've never done before. Let me just reach out and retune your radio for you. You're on the air at WPLP. Good evening, Bob. I'm going to write more than one letter. I'm going to write the station. I'm g... |
of one voice. What could be more personal, even in another language? [SPEAKING INUIT] Hello to you, Barney and Rosie. Hello to you, Rose. I'm happy to you-- OK, I'm singing to you Ayatollah Khomeini [SPEAKING INUIT] [BEGINS SINGING] This recording off the radio is one of those things that got recorded and then was pass... |
a situation where the regular radio staff is on strike, and these are the replacement workers. Or it's possible that these are the regular workers who are about to go on strike, fed up, at the end of their rope. Or maybe that's not the story at all. That's actually one of the things that I like about this. Like a lot o... |
media, I think, that quality where it can seem so small and so fleeting. Ian Brown used to host the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation show Sunday Morning, and he was very great to listen to. He was smart and unpretentious and this great interviewer and writer. And when the show was revamped and he was taken off the air... |
to get him on our show-- on This American Life And I called him up, and he was not brusk but businesslike, very proper, formal. And it sounds ridiculous to say-- I feel sort of silly saying it-- but it was hard not to feel a little strange about it. It was hard not to feel a little bit like here is this friend who went... |
and for our hundredth show, we bring you an hour of stories about the medium in which we work . A program on radio-- what makes it great when it's great, what makes it terrible when it's terrible, which it often is. Act One of our program today, Brigadoon. Searching for an illegal radio station in Miami that keeps appe... |
over all day long, the consultants who make every radio station sound the same. In short, the thinking that makes most radio in America today so boring, and we defend those guys. Act Four, Noble Calling. A winner of the Nobel Peace Prize who says that when peace comes to his country of East Timor, he has just one wish.... |
it came from, and you don't know what it is, but you just cannot stop listening. We have this first story from Iggy Scam in Miami. My friend [? Sinclair ?] was the one who first found the Northside black power pirate radio station way down the left of the FM dial. You could only tune it in up on the Northside, so we'd ... |
the A-M-I. Sometimes, I've got to ask myself why." And then they'd play Tupac and then, every couple of beats, the DJs would just cut in over it and just scream, howl, or go "Uh!" And then the music would cut out completely. Most of the time, there'd be four or five DJs all in the room with the mic, all just talking an... |
of one time when they were taking calls, and this dude called up and said, check it out, man. Southern Bell van's been parked in front of my house for three days. There ain't nothing wrong with the goddamn phone. It's the white man spying on us and trying to keep us down. Like I said, it was a great station. Besides be... |
about it, really, and eventually, I just moved away from Miami. But after all my plans fell apart one by one last year, I found myself back in Miami trying to sort it all out. I ended up living back up on the Northside, off 79th Street. Good old 79th Street, home to the "Welcome To Miami" water tower and the INS buildi... |
of a good idea. Right away, I started trying to tune in to the station, but I couldn't seem to find it. I didn't know if my radio had bad reception or if they'd just gone off the air. I wasn't even sure of the exact frequency, really. I became sort of obsessed with finding out what happened to those guys, but there was... |
was trying to lure Major League Baseball into Miami. And even then, he built it way too small for the major leagues. The financier lost all his money eventually, backing Castro, and then later backing anti-Castro revolutionaries. By the 1980s, the stadium was only used as a shelter and processing center for Nicaraguan ... |
station. Down at the end of a dead-end street where almost certainly no one would see it, someone had spray painted "Tape Radio, 61.5 WEED." Now, 61.5 would seem to be a radio frequency. WEED would seem to be a station's call letters. Was this some kind of ad? How could it be a station, though, if the FM band doesn't e... |
a station, they were probably broadcasting from a warehouse on that very street and that the broadcasters themselves must have painted it. Later that same day, I found the exact same spray painted message in the same exact writing in black paint 30 blocks north in Little Haiti. I never did find out what it meant. But t... |
music, put the caller on the air and yell, what's up? Caller would say, I want to say it two times for Little Haiti. DJ Funky One would say, all right, baby. Little Haiti's in the house. What's up? Next caller wanted to say one time for the Larchmont clique. All right, what's up? One time for Arena Towers, one time for... |
drank some tall cans from the 79th and Biscayne gas station beer special and listened, and it felt like every radio in the Northside must be tuned in. Finally, after a while, I heard the phone number actually given out on the air. So one afternoon, when only music was on and they weren't taking calls, I called up anywa... |
hung up on me. Carol City was at the very north end of the county. It had originally been a white, suburban subdivision, but eventually, it was where city planners tried to get the rising black population of the '60s to move to when the city needed new slum land as far away from downtown as possible. These days, it's a... |
Carol City. So I think that DJ Funky One was probably lying about Carol City. So I started keeping my eyes open for any new clues on my ride home from the more wealthy southern parts of town, where I was working. It was a long ride home but always interesting. When you left downtown for the Northside, it was like cross... |
when the station was apparently having an on-air live promo party. DJ Funky One said, come on down. We've got all this great food down here at Mama's Kitchen. We've got the fried chicken plate for five bucks and Mama's conch dinner for seven bucks. Could it be? DJ Funky One and a pirate radio transmitter live in a rest... |
They looked at me like I was crazy and nodded. "This is Mama's Kitchen?" I could smell chicken. They said it was. I said, "But where's DJ Funky One? Where's the station?" They broke up laughing, and then one guy said, "Everyone wants to know that." So Mama's Kitchen was really just some guy's mom's kitchen. I ended up ... |
never find out more about the station because now it was time to move away from the Northside. But I had one last Saturday night with the station, one last night of the station sending out the Miami-style bass to be packaged and delivered to the suburbs via 79th Street in a great, rusted 1971 Oldsmobile. One last ride ... |
assistant city manager Virginia Dolloff resigned on Friday after two weeks of negotiations over severance issues. City manager Brian Martin disclosed that. Martin had asked -- Act Two, The Invisible Leading the Blind. So much radio listening happens in the car. This radio signal is one that our contributing editor Jack... |
And it was two elderly gentleman reading. It was unlike anything I'd heard all morning, or for that matter, for the last 30 years. Well, a good Monday morning to you, and welcome to the March 2 edition of The News, as being read to you by us volunteers, us being Mike-- That's me. --and yours truly, Gordon, Monday morni... |
it isn't. We just put it in to relieve or give ourselves a break and get us in the mood to read to you, because for the next two hours, we will be reading. You're listening to the Lowell Association for the Blind Talking Information Radio Reading Service coming to you-- The service is provided for the reading impaired.... |
news if we can-- Merrimack Valley news, southern New Hampshire, northern Massachusetts, anywhere within our listening audience. But it's always local news because we feel-- and I think, Mike, you'll agree with me-- they can hear the national and the international news on their regular radios or televisions. Yes, I agre... |
a quieter style. In this story, Mike reveals that the official statistics on domestic abuse are flawed because men simply don't report their beatings to police. And Mike explains why. Although both men and women are likely to be ashamed of being hit by a partner, many men are even more ashamed because they feel it show... |
can. Come on. That was a very serious story-- Yes, it was. --but we sort of made a little light of it at the end. And we're sort of informal here on our little radio station, and we hope you don't mind it. "Informal" is not quite the right word. The right word is "surreal." Even though the readings are as ordinary as a... |
Mrs. Anna E. [? Leckis-- ?] or Leekis-- [? Kunzler ?] of Lowell, wife of Charles E. [? Kunzler Sr. ?] Calling hours are at the-- no, this is another one. I'm sorry. She's evidently already been buried, Mrs. [? Kunzler. I could not turn the stories off, whether it was assistant city manager Virginia Dolloff getting fire... |
of the Dracut Water Supply District. It was rich in character and subterfuge, a mini Shakespearean drama. Essentially, three board members who faced pay cuts had packed the meeting with relatives. And in the end, they GOT raises. Graham's relatives at the meeting included his wife and about 10 brothers, sisters-in-laws... |
three police officers, and two from the sewer department. The disputed raise, by the way, was a mere $2,000. But the ferocity of the battle was apparent, and even the political tactics were strangely familiar. Like Bill Clinton or Newt Gingrich, the raise plotters pretended to be astonished that anyone would question t... |
attended with her husband. "This was my first water district meeting, and it strikes me as though the other side-- and I hate to use that tern-- it appears that there were some efforts to bring out a particular constituency." Mike? I think that should have been subtitled "All in the Family." And now, I'd like to introd... |
Lake Wobegon would be if real people lived there, and then broadcast their own show without Garrison Keillor. In this alternate universe, the men are not always strong. Rather, they are savagely beaten by their wives. And the children are not at all above average. From Tyngsboro, sophomores at three area technical high... |
of the town hog reeve. That's the guy charged with rounding up the village's pigs if they bust out of the pens. When you hear this program, you realize just how homogenized everything else on radio is. This is banter that hasn't been focus grouped or copied from another show with better ratings. Finding Mike and Gordon... |
things. Sal Mineo, eh? OK, Steve, thanks a lot. You're welcome. Back to the news, we are. Jack Hitt listens to the radio from his home in New Haven, Connecticut. Coming up in the second half of our program, we move from the radio we love to the radio that actually exists on most radio stations, plus, the Nobel Peace Pr... |
on that theme. Today's program, Radio. What makes it so great? What makes it so terrible? And we have arrived at Act Three, The Radio Most People Listen To. He can't even get it out. We start June 26. Free tickets? Myra, please. Well, I just thought I'd ask. Not for you. This is a recording of V103, WVAZ in Chicago. A ... |
much bigger profits. Twice as many adults listen to them as listen to Chicago's public radio station. The story of how Max and Tony did this, made their station number one, is the story of how radio works-- pretty much every commercial station on the dial. This is the science of modern radio. And it begins here, 15 blo... |
women rather than for men for a very simple reason, Tony Gray tells me. Women are more likely to actually fill out the Arbitron diaries, which ratings are based on. In most cases across the country, the stations target females because you know you can rely on the women to fill out the diaries. So they get these women o... |
Once you get a record on the air, you have to know when to take it off, because there's nothing that'll drive a person away from a station than a song that they're just tired of. Every week, a printout of the audience scores arrives on Max's desk. And he marks it up, dividing the songs into A songs, B songs, C songs. A... |
the target audience. For V103, that means Marvin Gaye's "Sexual Healing," anything by Anita Baker. On last week's list, Max crossed off six songs that just did not test well enough to stay on the station, one of them a sentimental favorite for Max by his favorite artist, an artist that he does not want me to name on th... |
interfere. No, it's not about me. It's about listeners. It's about playing what they want. You have your own radio station here. You can play whatever you want. That's my job. You said the most important thing. I have my own radio station at home. And I play all the stuff I want to play as often as I want to play it. I... |
has a song that scores lower with the audience and one of its competitors has a song that scores higher, V103 loses. Some programming tidbits I picked up during my visit to V103-- if you play rap music, you pretty much say goodbye to any adult audience. So even stations that target African-Americans usually don't play ... |
listeners, especially older listeners, are likely to say that they recognize and like your song. And radio stations will add your song to the playlist. One of the songs that Max is adding is a song called "Too Close," which has a sample in it. Oh, here it is. This is another song we were looking at. Normally, we would ... |
sure. This is a very familiar sound. If you're in the adult demo, it's not going to make you mad to hear this song because it's just so familiar. You know this song? What is this song? When they came to V103, Max and Tony made some changes in personnel, they tinkered with the station's slogans and promotions. They paid... |
experience has been, a short playlist always seems to fix the problem a lot quicker than, let's say, a more liberal playlist. When I went to visit V103, I had not been in a commercial radio station for 20 years. And I was curious about what it was going to be like, Chicago's number one station. Turns out it looks exact... |
started in radio as teenagers Ask them what they love about radio, and they talk about finding unknown songs, putting them on the air, watching them become hits. They talk about the satisfaction of watching the science of radio marketing actually work. And their lives are organized around one moment that happens every ... |
stations sound the same. It's why most radio is so boring, why we hear the same songs repeated over and over, everywhere on the dial, from city to city, why V103 can't even play Otis Redding. I should note that public radio does not stand above all this. Research has been driving it for years. The jazz played on Chicag... |
interesting radio shows I have ever heard. It jumps quickly from This Day in Black History to the three-minute radio soap opera It's Your World. From serious and semi-serious to straight-out comedy, it is surprising and just great by any measure. So we kind of made a little noise, huh, Mr. Novak? Indeed you did. You've... |
of mail to the Chicago newspaper that publishes Novak's syndicated column. And very, very quickly, Novak came onto Joyner's show to try to clarify his position for Joyner's audience. Some of our really fine citizens are African-Americans-- in government, in business, athletics and show business. You know how they got h... |
I didn't mean that. OK, what did you mean by that? I meant it's a logical problem that we wouldn't have-- One more thing about the scientific way of making radio-- it is weirdly democratic. Every song is chosen by polling. Here's this multimillion dollar business, all these well-groomed men and women and their expensiv... |
You've got it. CNN, Washington bureau. Well, of course, the science of radio-- the machine of modern radio-- takes as well as it gives. It breaks hearts. Lots of people and ideas get knocked off the air as programmers try things they think will more predictably and scientifically attract listeners. Ida Hakkila had a jo... |
that I am, personally. So it'd be like, AM 1480 Z-Rock! you know, like I was going to hurt somebody. So sometimes-- And were those instructions to you? Did they actually sit with you in the studio and they're like, "No, angrier. Make it sound angrier"? No. Actually, I did all the production. I just did everything. It w... |
was called Q104.3. What are you calling it? Butt rock. Butt rock? And I mean that in the most endearing way. I really love the music. It was AC/DC and Ozzy. And for some reason, the best way to describe it would be to call it butt rock. And the way commercial radio is, there's these very slight parameters. But this guy... |
fun with the listeners. So what happened? So how come you're not there? Oh, because in 1996, I guess Viacom could own more than one station, and they decided that they wanted to have a station that appealed to males age 25 to 54. So they changed the format from pure rock, which is what they called it, to classic rock. ... |
said, OK, I don't want to work here anymore. I hope they fire me. That's the sign that the Antichrist has arrived-- the Jimmy Buffett t-shirts. That's exactly it. Ida turned in her resignation. Then she looked for other jobs, including one at her first radio stations-- Z-Rock and K-Rock. But she decided she couldn't wo... |
liner, where they say, like, 20 songs in a row or your money back. Stuff like that. So really, like, middle of the road-- and these were people who were actually-- maybe 10 years before, they were the most vital and vibrant DJs, and they had just been beaten. They were people who were just absolutely beaten. They were ... |
song, you'll play this song? Yeah, it's basically a list. It's a list that says exactly what song comes at what time. So then, what's the pleasure of being a DJ? What is the thing that you're doing yourself? Somebody else has chosen the songs and all of that. I don't know why people become DJs. But I don't think that t... |
liked the listeners. All my phones lit up the whole show, and I just basically talked to people. And I'd talk about what people were doing at work. I'd talk about what they were eating at lunch. People would send me pictures of what they did. And it was this community. And if it was hot and people were working on roofs... |
so weird. It's like you were betrayed by radio itself. I just so don't want to sound like a bitter person. And there aren't very many people, if anybody, that understands what I've gone through, which is, I was saying, it's just like an open wound. Or I am just so heartbroken. This is something that I love so much. And... |
But the real reality of it is that I ran out of money. So I'm answering phones, and I waitressed for a while. And do you listen to the radio on your job? I actually tuned into some internet stations. There was a station that I really liked in Calgary that was-- they didn't even play good music, but the people just seem... |
You literally had to pull in a station from another country. Participating with sister stations KEX Portland, WKRC Cincinnati, and-- Let's address the issues on the ground that affect the daily lives of the people, people who are being killed or kidnapped or tortured. All of these problems-- Act Four, Noble Calling. Th... |
producer Edie Rubinowitz that someday, if peace comes to his country, he has another dream. He would like to do a radio program himself, one like Howard Stern's. He's seen Stern's movie, Private Parts, on an airplane. We reached Horta at the United Nations offices in Geneva. That's the kind of radio program I would do ... |
the hell this is, but I noticed the taxi driver would crack up, would laugh. And then I would join in, so after that, of course, I heard it many times whenever I could, yes. Let me play you a little clip from the Howard Stern Show, OK? Yeah. All right, here we go. This is a clip, he's talking about Arnold Schwarzenegge... |
me he gets a little thing on the side going with some girls. Oh, here we go. I'm tellling you. "Meet me in my trailer." "Jamie Lee, that was a good strip." "That was very nice. Now, let's go practice in private. Come here, Rosanne." So can you imagine that your own radio program in East Timor would go in this kind of d... |
When you describe it that way, it makes it sound like you'd have mostly a political show. You saw in Howard Stern's movie, Private Parts, he has, like, naked ladies in the studio. Would you do that? In our society, in our country, no, I couldn't do that. I don't think you'd find too many women in the Third World that w... |
Yeah. Bishop Carlos Filipe Ximenes Belo is an outstanding, courageous individual. And I don't think he would appreciate very much if I were to have a radio program exactly similar to Howard Stern when it comes to discussing sex. And let me ask you to explain, what's so appealing to you about Howard Stern? Well, he chal... |
say exactly what he wants. Exactly. Many diplomats feel like I do. You get frustrated with all this posturing at the United Nations. And sometimes, I lose my temper and I tell some people what I actually think of them. And if I were not constrained by the delicate work I do, if I were to have my own radio program, I te... |
They enjoy it. Most of them feel, well, that's exactly what I would like to say myself. And if only I could have a job where I were able to speak honestly like this. Exactly. Yes, yes. Now, over the last few weeks, knowing that we were going to do this interview, we've been trying to arrange to get you onto The Howard ... |
what? She probably thought I was calling from the East Side in New York. After, I tried to explain-- she even didn't know what the Nobel Peace Prize is all about. She had never heard of the Nobel Peace Prize? No. and then she pass on to the editors or the producer, whoever. And they say they don't know what you're talk... |
cruise, and we've got two tickets to give away. In other words, they're having a cruise, and it's going to be all porno actresses. And they're giving away tickets to it. But that again, is a joke, no? No, I think it's real. It's real? I think it's real. Well, OK, if it's a joke to joke people, I would. Many, many years... |
waiting for them. There was no boat, no Swedish women. You were ahead of your time. Thank you. In a certain way-- you're trying to get freedom for your homeland-- do you view this kind of speech, which, I have to say, Howard Stern is often criticized here in the States for the things he says and the way he is. Do you v... |
of This American Life was produced by Julie Snyder and myself with Alix Spiegel and Nancy Updike, senior editor Paul Tough, contributing editors Jack Hitt, Margy Rochlin, and Consigliere Sarah Vowell. Production help from Laura Doggett and [? Sahini ?] Davenport. To buy a cassette of this or any of our 100 shows, call ... |
In the 1830s, the area around Niagara Falls was still mostly wilderness. Railroads were just coming in, and already people were complaining about how commercialization was ruining Niagara Falls. Already there were cheesy attempts to make money off tourism. In 1827, promoters sent a ship full of animals over the falls. ... |
into the river. Bridges collapsed. Deals were struck that benefited no one. If the classic story of America is the story of people who started with nothing, pulled themselves up by their bootstraps, made something of themselves, the story of Niagara Falls is the opposite story. Here, they started with something, someth... |
factories that used that power, that cheap power, moved in. But then those factories left, decimated by the same economic forces that ravaged the industries in most of the Rust Belt states, forces so powerful they can destroy a town, even a town with one of the world's natural wonders in it. But that's not the story we... |
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