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i didn't write a thesis for my master's
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yeah that's my problem also they to a doctorate they have to do wait a minute and so you mean they know
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you didn't
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do a thesis well accepted into a doctoral program they would want to see my thesis and if they if they don't have as what i can do right oh i can't find
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it it's you know it's back in the states
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so like you're on a must leu to the doctorate and like you have to do your master's whatever you do your master's thes is on then you just expand it to your doctorate it's like going backwards i think i have to doh themmo in courses and stuff like yeah yeah you know so i it's not even you know and plus you know look at i'm getting demoted anyway oh this is like it was so od i know it's disgusting
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it
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really is because
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you were such a star i mean you were in the te small quarterly and
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well look at you know look at mihal michal and i look at we do bayonni i'm in charge of the bayon me kme you know which is about if you add up all the courses ele a third of the courses we are you know right
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you
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know a and and mikel and i also do most of the observations oh really yeah which
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that's a lots that you know that would be a full time job yeah that'd be a full time job
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pleasant situation somet sometimes you know love is a problem they call us then you know because like we do very thorough observations you know and we back it up so you know it's like we you know we just made a a new book took us you know with carol also i'd love i'd love to see it
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it's
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it's good it's much harder than the other onesm it's really uhhh i like it' a lot of fss because ummm you know judy had just started instead of olive you know so like she would she pasted and cut it footnotes in the middle of the text oh you know like that which we didn't even think of to check for right cause then you know but then we thought then we thought we'd fixed the f almost like making a whole new book right exactly yeah it you know right so within two years we have to start on a new one exactly
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but every like like nursing and they all have their own book for me
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they all have to have their own booklets and
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and they're okay i mean you
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better than all yeah it's it's not like you know carol sort of made made everybody you know toe the line and cause she was in uhhh i don't know if she was head of me canme when you were there i think so yeah so she ma she she demanded that every meat canme coors have to have a hovet and have good through her and
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she looks okay carol yeah yeah
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she's she's uhhh galaanting somewhere and she still you know she's still
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involved with that you know whatever it is over eaters at all well she
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now ummm she was like the treasure yeah and she's going all over the world good all over the world and she's doing these speaking things and now like her kadentska is over but they want to keep her on like because she's such a great yes she is yes she is you know so she's like less time wise now but i think she's still gonna be hoping all over the world and the husband's okay
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so yes
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that's cool yeah he's going on that sabatical two and ummm
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i
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think like half one semester bulgaria insane and then in the other semester i think maybe the states uhhuh
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and her kids must be old
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ummm nina yeah in uhhh she's in the far east and she's back for a visit but she's been all like in right she was in all you know yeah yeah inonesia and all these places in australia she's finding herself
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and beautiful right
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huh
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yeah and the son too what about hims gorgeous yes son
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he got discharged from the army because you know he had to whatever he want he watched he you know what what's it called like when you're not suited like boy like like
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but
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you know it's not it's not like it was like ten i understand ago a lot of people are getting out i mean it's not such a big mean but carol was upset
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because before the three years you
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mean oh yeah like he i think after his basic training or something i mean
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because the o you know yes it is more you know miobal the only problem is that you know when he goes to apply for a job or
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but
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hey what are you going to do what are you going to do you you know you can't put yourself in her shoes i mean you know who knows
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right bo oh
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sweetheart
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you
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know it's such a big trip i just would love to get there you know when i have my big vacation in the winter but who knows who knows yeah i know and you know and and i and i love his sister too i i will try i will will try she lives in stable care oh end of the world but you know my daughter is starting college and so whenever you have any criticism about your salary or anything else when i tell you what it is costing us you just won't believe me
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i
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know you won't believe me
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oh i believe you
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you you believe
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it i wanted to go to the university of rochester
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at that time and it was and at that time what was it five thousand dollars
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no it was much more it was like twelve thousand dollars okay it's like unbelievable and i told my parents you know forget it i'm not going i'm not gonna ask you know i'm not going to get in debt for the rest of my life and i don't want you to get in debt for the rest of my life i went to university right right now it's like unbelievable one saving grade it is i am still at university when my kids go to they free right
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and you know when when ever any you know this was like a discussion the whole year because the applications and this and waiting people going she's going to university of pennsylvania when people would come over ibish shy would be undergrad do you know what she could go to t the university for do you know and it's and it's and with everything all included it's just about thirty thousand a year we have two more kids i' it's it's so mind boggling that it's not even funny she was an excellent student she had i don't think she really knows but she has all these a p credits she's going in as a sophomore at least at least that but for my son i said hey you know he's a sophomore in high school i said hey you know don't think i'm gonna to spend spend thirty thousand dollars and send you to syracuse i mean that's not gonna happen so
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wow
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yeahb so i teach in the summer and and this past year i taught two nights a week at harvard but you know each course there was thirty two hundred dollars i mean that's a lot of money for two nights a week for you know well worth
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it well worth it
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but you know i'm not getting any younger well he
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you know you looking at the job market today you're yes pretty well i
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am i have a job and so all this was extra and it goes to her tuition and that's the way it goes
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yeah
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w swetheart i had this free phone call i know
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are you allowed to divge your research
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this isn't mine the university of pennsylvania i had all the foreign students at harvard making phone calls all summer and then and then i'm going to get ten dollars for this in the mail i have nothing to do with this nothing to i saw an ad in t something or other called them up and it's a ummm from the linguistics department it just ironically it's her school university of pennsylvania
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and what what is
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they i think they want to see it's all different languages i think they want to see like interrupting
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so now is the time where we kind of just talk for fifteen minutes about
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whatever ummm do you like living in the city
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lov
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yeah i just grew up in philadelphia proper
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yup i grew up uhhh
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what uhhh i forget oh was sunny in philadelphia they called it wie soca west between south and catherine but that was just kind of a joke they made on the show but it's like queen village that area
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so
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ummm and you went to penn charter did you like the school
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yeah i i went there i went there since kindergarten so it's the only the only you know formal education i knew until college and uhhh it was great like i definitely have thought about you know when the time comes sending my kids there even though i'm only you know twenty
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liked them to have that experience so i had a good experience there
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ummm do you live in the city of chicago now or do you live outside
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ummm well where i go to school is in evonston which is in the furthurb north of chicago so i don't live in chicago although that would be nice evanston's a little quiet for my taste but uhhh it's a nice setting for a college ummm not in the hustle and bustle of you know the downtown area
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do kids who go to northwestern live in the city
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yeah there's some people that uhhh commute from uhhh the closest neighborhood in chicago which is called rogers park uhhh you know it's more affordable than ebvinson ebonson's a really you know
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it's a really nice wealthy suburb and uhhh you know people who want like a bigger living space can rent for cheap in uhhh rogers park
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pretty big space
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ummm so what what uhhh do you know what your major is do
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uhhh i haven't my major but i think when i get back to school in the fall i'm going to sociology and urban studies as my majors
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that kind of overlap
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ummm have you taken classes in those departments yet
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yeah ummm actually all three
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all three quarters uhhh last year i took a sociology class
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and ummm
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just really really liked it and had a good experience with the department one of my my advisor for like our freshman writing seminar ummm it was in the sociology department although it had to do with writing ummm so that kind of turned me on to it
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after that i just took another good class and another good class so it's kind of how it evolved
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ummm what were some of the do you remember any particular like readings or uhhh authors that kind of stod out to you that you thought were really cool
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ummm
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uhhh it's i don't want to say it's hard for you know like sociological journals to be cool it is a little bit but ummm i guess the most interesting piece
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uhhh it's uhhh
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yeah
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i read
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listen well a really interesting book was called blue chip black by karen lacy i think that's the author ummm and it's about uhhh
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suburbs and ummm like black suburbs in particular black middle class and upper middle class suburbs and how they if they differ from other suburbs and you know kind of how they formed because for a long time blacks weren't allowed to you know due to like restrictive covnants stuff like that realtor steering ummm they weren't you know
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wanted in suburbs so it was interesting i really like that one
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that's cool ummm yeah i study anthropology so there's a lot of overlap as i'm sure you know
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