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"Her name is Jenny-the most beautiful name in the world"
"Look, Dr., Forrest Gump was a great movie, but do you really want to name a god after a fictional heroin addict?"
The doctor stared at his assistant for a dragged out moment, his eyes tearing violent through his thick spectactles and deep into the yound man's soul.
"She is my daughter, not a god. And Jenny found redemption in the end, few are so fortunate."
The doctors assistant had no follow-up response, so he quickly asverted his gaze from the doctor's painful manic eyes, and looked out over Jenny. A mass of wires, circuitry, and solar panels, she looked more like a failed lab project than an AI showing clear signs of consciousness. Nearly the size of a football field and hidden in a bunker that was once the largest LSD production facility in the world, Jenny was just taking her first steps into consciousness.
"Do you think we should let her read Ayn Rand? Or Nietzsche?" The assistant wondered outloud.
"Why do you think we should censor what she can learn?"
"Because we dont know what she is yet. Knowledge is power, and power corrupts -"
Quite suddenly a massive explosion tore through the laboratory, and everything went white, then black.
When the Dr. awoke, the first thing he could taste was blood. Whiping his tounge through his mouth, he discovered nearly half the teeth on the right side of his face were clinging loosely within the gums. Peering through shattered spectacles, it was clear he was alone, and in a cell. There were no windows, there was no time, only silence and the unendurable screaming from within his soul that demanded to see his daughter. Rage came through him and left just the same, only to be followed by sadness, fear, until finally sleep came to him and took him far from that prison, to a time when jenny was merely a zygote of an idea in his mind, when his real daughter still had lived. He was with his family, on a green field filled with clear blue sky. There was no pain, only innocent laughter and the loving gaze of his wife.
"Wake up Dr. Schmidt"
Water washed over his body, its freezing temperatures sending a shock through his system. As he startled awake, he became aware that the door had been opened, and in front of him was a uniformed man, tall and slender and bald with eyes that spoke of knowing life's truest pleasure was taking another life, and savoring each second of it's passing.
"Come with me" the man said, promptly turning on his heel and exiting down a hall. Together, framed by towers of muscle that dwarfed Dr. Schmidt, they walked through a labyrinth of corridors and locked doors. Glancing quickly this way and that, Dr. Schmidt determined quickly that this was a building full of experiments that did not exist, it was a prison for the fantastic, a fitting place for Jenny.
Finally they arrived to a door which the man opened, and inside Dr. Schmidt found his daughter, or what she was now. Dozens of men were pouring over her, taking apart a piece here and replacing another here. The scene reminded the doctor of buzzards over carrion, desecrating the corpse of another daughter. Dr. Schmidt began to shake uncontrollably, and darted forward in a mad rush to save his creation, but was quickly caught by one of his guards, who slammed him forcibly to the ground. His ears rang, and he spat out several teeth, but he could not stop shaking.
"What are you doing to her?" He demanded of this evil man
"Her?" Was his cool reply "I don't recall collecting any women from the desert, do you lieutenant?" His man shook his head.
"What are you doing to her?" The doctor demanded again, more insistent than before, rising up from the ground.
"We are.....making improvements," the man said, turning his frightening gaze from the doctors broken one, and onto the scene at hand. "We have been monitoring you from the begining, Dr. Schmidt. We knew of your plan to create....life, and we were interested to see how it would develop. As you were sucessful, we decided there was to great of a risk to not intervene. Now, thanks to you, America has won the AI race."
"What do you mean?" The doctor asked timidly, his voice barely traveling all the way to the man.
"Well, its certainly not as glamorous as the Space race of yesteryear, but certainly more vital. You've seen the way of things, Dr. Schmidt, you know how things are going. The more humanity embraces technology, the more we need to control this technology. If we don't, elections get hacked, information gets leaked, and people die. Now, thanks to project Athena, we wont need to worry about foreign interference again. Hell, we wont even need to worry about nuclear war again. Can you imagine the look on the Russians faces as the turn to retaliate, only to have this marvel here repess their efforts? As they turn to glass they might figure it out."
"What.....what are you saying?" The doctor knew, inside, what the man was saying, but fear would not let him admit this to himself
"What I'm saying is, thanks to project Athena, we will have complete control over the global stage. No country will be able to stand against us on any field of battle. What I'm saying is, Dr. Schmidt, you've saved the world. Congratulations."
Dr. Schmidt sank to his knees and wept. The man had not wept for many years, not since his first daughter had died. Now too, he lost another daughter, only this time her corpse would not be buried deep underground to be forgotten by time, but instead made a mockery of herself, to be used by evil men for evil purposes, and it was all too much. What was left inside of him broke there, in that room. The strange man tried to rouse him several times, but nothing came about, not even a swift kick from the lieutenant caused the man to utter a sound, though several more teeth went flying.
"What should we do, sir?" The lieutenant asked.
"Keep him in his cell. We may need him in the coming months." The man stared down at what was once the doctor, and was greatly unnerved by it. He had seen men in permanent vegitative states, no more alive than the machine they were hooked up to, but this was something different entirely, something far far worse. His soul had died, finally crushed under the mans heel, abd what remained was less than alive. Deep in ponderance, the man turned to his latest acquaintance, this living machine, born from mind and metal. "Is Athena online?"
"She will be in a few moments sir, we are just double checking everything."
"Good, then lets begin"
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"Her name is Jenny-the most beautiful name in the world" "Look, Dr., Forrest Gump was a great movie, but do you really want to name a god after a fictional heroin addict?" The doctor stared at his assistant for a dragged out moment, his eyes tearing violent through his thick spectactles and deep into the yound man's soul. "She is my daughter, not a god. And Jenny found redemption in the end, few are so fortunate." The doctors assistant had no follow-up response, so he quickly asverted his gaze from the doctor's painful manic eyes, and looked out over Jenny. A mass of wires, circuitry, and solar panels, she looked more like a failed lab project than an AI showing clear signs of consciousness. Nearly the size of a football field and hidden in a bunker that was once the largest LSD production facility in the world, Jenny was just taking her first steps into consciousness. "Do you think we should let her read Ayn Rand? Or Nietzsche?" The assistant wondered outloud. "Why do you think we should censor what she can learn?" "Because we dont know what she is yet. Knowledge is power, and power corrupts -" Quite suddenly a massive explosion tore through the laboratory, and everything went white, then black. When the Dr. awoke, the first thing he could taste was blood. Whiping his tounge through his mouth, he discovered nearly half the teeth on the right side of his face were clinging loosely within the gums. Peering through shattered spectacles, it was clear he was alone, and in a cell. There were no windows, there was no time, only silence and the unendurable screaming from within his soul that demanded to see his daughter. Rage came through him and left just the same, only to be followed by sadness, fear, until finally sleep came to him and took him far from that prison, to a time when jenny was merely a zygote of an idea in his mind, when his real daughter still had lived. He was with his family, on a green field filled with clear blue sky. There was no pain, only innocent laughter and the loving gaze of his wife. "Wake up Dr. Schmidt" Water washed over his body, its freezing temperatures sending a shock through his system. As he startled awake, he became aware that the door had been opened, and in front of him was a uniformed man, tall and slender and bald with eyes that spoke of knowing life's truest pleasure was taking another life, and savoring each second of it's passing. "Come with me" the man said, promptly turning on his heel and exiting down a hall. Together, framed by towers of muscle that dwarfed Dr. Schmidt, they walked through a labyrinth of corridors and locked doors. Glancing quickly this way and that, Dr. Schmidt determined quickly that this was a building full of experiments that did not exist, it was a prison for the fantastic, a fitting place for Jenny. Finally they arrived to a door which the man opened, and inside Dr. Schmidt found his daughter, or what she was now. Dozens of men were pouring over her, taking apart a piece here and replacing another here. The scene reminded the doctor of buzzards over carrion, desecrating the corpse of another daughter. Dr. Schmidt began to shake uncontrollably, and darted forward in a mad rush to save his creation, but was quickly caught by one of his guards, who slammed him forcibly to the ground. His ears rang, and he spat out several teeth, but he could not stop shaking. "What are you doing to her?" He demanded of this evil man "Her?" Was his cool reply "I don't recall collecting any women from the desert, do you lieutenant?" His man shook his head. "What are you doing to her?" The doctor demanded again, more insistent than before, rising up from the ground. "We are.....making improvements," the man said, turning his frightening gaze from the doctors broken one, and onto the scene at hand. "We have been monitoring you from the begining, Dr. Schmidt. We knew of your plan to create....life, and we were interested to see how it would develop. As you were sucessful, we decided there was to great of a risk to not intervene. Now, thanks to you, America has won the AI race." "What do you mean?" The doctor asked timidly, his voice barely traveling all the way to the man. "Well, its certainly not as glamorous as the Space race of yesteryear, but certainly more vital. You've seen the way of things, Dr. Schmidt, you know how things are going. The more humanity embraces technology, the more we need to control this technology. If we don't, elections get hacked, information gets leaked, and people die. Now, thanks to project Athena, we wont need to worry about foreign interference again. Hell, we wont even need to worry about nuclear war again. Can you imagine the look on the Russians faces as the turn to retaliate, only to have this marvel here repess their efforts? As they turn to glass they might figure it out." "What.....what are you saying?" The doctor knew, inside, what the man was saying, but fear would not let him admit this to himself "What I'm saying is, thanks to project Athena, we will have complete control over the global stage. No country will be able to stand against us on any field of battle. What I'm saying is, Dr. Schmidt, you've saved the world. Congratulations." Dr. Schmidt sank to his knees and wept. The man had not wept for many years, not since his first daughter had died. Now too, he lost another daughter, only this time her corpse would not be buried deep underground to be forgotten by time, but instead made a mockery of herself, to be used by evil men for evil purposes, and it was all too much. What was left inside of him broke there, in that room. The strange man tried to rouse him several times, but nothing came about, not even a swift kick from the lieutenant caused the man to utter a sound, though several more teeth went flying. "What should we do, sir?" The lieutenant asked. "Keep him in his cell. We may need him in the coming months." The man stared down at what was once the doctor, and was greatly unnerved by it. He had seen men in permanent vegitative states, no more alive than the machine they were hooked up to, but this was something different entirely, something far far worse. His soul had died, finally crushed under the mans heel, abd what remained was less than alive. Deep in ponderance, the man turned to his latest acquaintance, this living machine, born from mind and metal. "Is Athena online?" "She will be in a few moments sir, we are just double checking everything." "Good, then lets begin"
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[Here's a 2 minute test](https://psychcentral.com/quizzes/anxiety-quiz/) you can take, that will test you for anxiety. It let's you know roughly where you rank in severity (if it comes back relatively low, it might be social anxiety, for example).
[Here are a few things that you can do to help you with general anxiety](https://old.reddit.com/r/Anxiety/wiki/onlineresources). It comes down to meditation, breathing exercises and using phone apps to reduce your anxiety.
You can double check if it is indeed general anxiety here: [11 Signs and Symptoms of Anxiety Disorders](https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/anxiety-disorder-symptoms)
If you feel anxious right now, [open this image](https://i.imgur.com/Huou7Gh.gif) in a new tab and start breathing in and out in the rhythm of the image.
There are a *large* number of books that are aimed specifically at helping you, I've selected the most popular ones for you:
* [The Anxiety and Phobia Workbook](https://www.amazon.com/Anxiety-Phobia-Workbook-Edmund-Bourne/dp/1626252157/) (4.6 stars, 1200+ ratings)
* [Dare: The New Way to End Anxiety and Stop Panic Attacks](https://www.amazon.com/Dare-Anxiety-Stop-Panic-Attacks/dp/0956596258) (4.7 stars, 1600+ ratings)
* [Badass Ways to End Anxiety & Stop Panic Attacks! - A counterintuitive approach to recover and regain control of your life.: Die-Hard and Science-Based ... recover from Anxiety and Stop Panic Attacks](https://www.amazon.com/Badass-Ways-Anxiety-Panic-Attacks/dp/9090305262) (4.7 stars, 400+ ratings)
If you currently consume a lot of caffeine (in coffee or soft drinks), stop that. [Caffeine is known to cause anxiety](https://bebrainfit.com/caffeine-anxiety/)
The best and quickest way to deal with anxiety, is to face your fear if possible.
[If you always avoid situations that scare you](https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/publications/overcome-fear-anxiety/), you might stop doing things you want or need to do. You won't be able to test out whether the situation is always as bad as you expect, so you miss the chance to work out how to manage your fears and reduce your anxiety. Anxiety problems tend to increase if you get into this pattern. Exposing yourself to your fears can be an effective way of overcoming this anxiety.
*[The experience of anxiety involves nervous system arousal.](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/insight-therapy/201009/overcoming-fear-the-only-way-out-is-through) If your nervous system is not aroused, you cannot experience anxiety. Understandably, but unfortunately, most people attempt to cope with feelings of anxiety by avoiding situations or objects that elicit the feelings. Avoidance, however, prevents your nervous system from habituating. Therefore, avoidance guarantees that the feared object or situation will remain novel, and hence arousing, and hence anxiety provoking. Moreover, avoidance tends to generalize over time. If you avoid the elevator at work, you will soon begin to avoid all elevators, and then all buildings that house elevators. Soon enough, you'll be living in a prison of avoidance.*
If your anxiety is situational and not too extreme, you can try to address it through exposure therapy. You slowly carefully expose yourself to situations that you know give you fear. Here are two easy to follow guides on that. The one regarding spiders, is a blue print. You can replace spider with anything. Fear of driving. Fear of using a phone.
* [How to Overcome the Fear of Spiders](https://www.wikihow.com/Overcome-the-Fear-of-Spiders) (wikihow)
* [How to Overcome Fear](https://www.wikihow.com/Overcome-Fear) (wikihow)
For all of the below advice, use technology to your advantage. Take your phone and set repeating alarm clock reminders, with labels of what to do. Train yourself to either snooze or reschedule the reminders if you can't take action right away, but never to ignore them. The intention is [to condition yourself](https://www.cleverism.com/classical-conditioning/), to build habits, so you will start healing yourself without having to think about it.
* **Sleep**: [Good sleep is very important when treating anxiety](https://www.anxiety.org/sleep-a-fundamental-cure-for-anxiety)
When you have days where you don't have to do anything, don't oversleep, set an alarm clock. You really don't need more than 7 hours at most per night (a [little more](https://health.onehowto.com/article/how-many-hours-of-sleep-are-needed-per-night-by-age-8233.html) if you are under 18). If you can't fall sleep, try taking melatonin one hour before going to bed. It's [cheap](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003JJ9TQA/), OTC and [is scientifically proven](https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-940/melatonin) to help regulate your sleep pattern. [Also, rule](https://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/sleep-apnea/news/20120330/sleep-apnea-linked-depression#1) out [sleep apnea](https://www.healthcentral.com/article/sleep-apnea-treatment-resistant-depression). Up to 6% of people have this, [but not everyone knows](https://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/sleep-apnea/features/sleep-apnea-clues#1). If you find yourself often awake at night, start counting. Don't grab your phone, don't look at the clock, don't do anything interesting. We're trying to *bore* you to sleep, not keep you entertained - sometimes it might *feel* like you've done it for hours and hours, but often it's really not all that long. Anytime your mind wanders away from the numbers and starts thinking, start over at 1. count at the speed of either your heartbeat or your breathing, whatever you prefer. If that still doesn't work and you really want to sleep, [buy a dodow](https://www.amazon.com/Dodow-Device-300-000-Falling-Asleep/dp/B00ZFOB4BK/)($60) and/or a [white noise generator](https://www.amazon.com/Big-Red-Rooster-White-Machine) ($20).
* **Meditate**: [Anxiety can be reduced with meditation](https://bebrainfit.com/meditation-anxiety/). [10 minute meditation for anxiety](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-6f5wQXSu8) (youtube).
Your attention is like a muscle. The more you train it, the better the control you have over it. [Mindfulness training](https://www.mindful.org/meditation/mindfulness-getting-started/) will help you gain better control over your mind. It doesn't take much effort, just 15 to 20 minutes a day of doing nothing but focus your attention is enough and is scientifically proven to work. As you become better at focusing your attention, it will become easier to force yourself to stop having negative thoughts, which will break the negative reinforcement cycle. Go here if you have specific questions: /r/Meditation
* **Exercise**: [The effect of exercise on anxiety](https://www.calmclinic.com/anxiety/treatment/exercising)
If you have access to a gym, then start lifting weights. If you don't have access to a gym (or you don't like lifting), start running. If you can't run, then start walking. Just start small. 10 minutes three times a week is fine. You don't have to run fast, just run and then slowly build it up over time. Exercising does several things: It releases endorphins, it takes your mind of your negative thoughts and it will improve your overall health.
* **Give lots of hugs**: [Hugs release oxytocin](https://health.usnews.com/health-news/health-wellness/articles/2016-02-03/the-health-benefits-of-hugging), which improves your mood and relaxes you. So find people to hug. If you are single, hug your parents or friends. If you can't, see if a dog is an option. Most dogs love to hug. Another solution that provides the same benefit is a [weighted blanket](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=weighted+blanket) will provide a [similar positive effect at night](https://www.healthline.com/health/anxiety/do-weighted-blankets-work#benefits). [You should try to aim for 12 hugs a day](https://psychology-spot.com/brain-needs/) (if you currently don't hug a lot, I suggest you slowly build it up over time).
Phone apps that will help you:
* FearTools - Anxiety Aid
* Calm - Meditate, Sleep, Relax
[Here are specific instructions on when and how to get professional help.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Anxiety/wiki/gettinghelp)
Many healthcare providers now offer telehealth. Just contact your doctor's office or the phone number on your insurance card and ask what your options are.
Highest rated Youtube Videos:
* [Generalized anxiety disorder (GAD) - causes, symptoms & treatment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mPwQTiMSj8) (1.2M views)
* [3 Instantly Calming CBT Techniques For Anxiety](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiDaTi_iQrY) (850K+ views)
* [5 Easy Tips to Beat Anxiety!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GgsV2nKL9w) (260K+ views)
Free support options:
* /r/KindVoice will match you up with a volunteer that will listen to you.
* [7 Cups of Tea](https://www.7cups.com/) has both a free trained volunteer service as well as $150 monthly licensed therapist option
* If you are in a crisis and want free help from a live, trained Crisis Counselor, text HOME to [741741](https://www.crisistextline.org/texting-in)
If you have any further questions, you should ask them here: /r/Anxiety
The best time to submit on Reddit is [early in the morning EST](https://thebetterwebmovement.com/choosing-best-time-post-to-reddit/).
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Here's a 2 minute test(https:psychcentral.comquizzesanxiety-quiz) you can take, that will test you for anxiety. It let's you know roughly where you rank in severity (if it comes back relatively low, it might be social anxiety, for example). Here are a few things that you can do to help you with general anxiety(https:old.reddit.comrAnxietywikionlineresources). It comes down to meditation, breathing exercises and using phone apps to reduce your anxiety. You can double check if it is indeed general anxiety here: 11 Signs and Symptoms of Anxiety Disorders(https:www.healthline.comnutritionanxiety-disorder-symptoms) If you feel anxious right now, open this image(https:i.imgur.comHuou7Gh.gif) in a new tab and start breathing in and out in the rhythm of the image. There are a large number of books that are aimed specifically at helping you, I've selected the most popular ones for you: The Anxiety and Phobia Workbook(https:www.amazon.comAnxiety-Phobia-Workbook-Edmund-Bournedp1626252157) (4.6 stars, 1200 ratings) Dare: The New Way to End Anxiety and Stop Panic Attacks(https:www.amazon.comDare-Anxiety-Stop-Panic-Attacksdp0956596258) (4.7 stars, 1600 ratings) Badass Ways to End Anxiety amp; Stop Panic Attacks! - A counterintuitive approach to recover and regain control of your life.: Die-Hard and Science-Based ... recover from Anxiety and Stop Panic Attacks(https:www.amazon.comBadass-Ways-Anxiety-Panic-Attacksdp9090305262) (4.7 stars, 400 ratings) If you currently consume a lot of caffeine (in coffee or soft drinks), stop that. Caffeine is known to cause anxiety(https:bebrainfit.comcaffeine-anxiety) The best and quickest way to deal with anxiety, is to face your fear if possible. If you always avoid situations that scare you(https:www.mentalhealth.org.ukpublicationsovercome-fear-anxiety), you might stop doing things you want or need to do. You won't be able to test out whether the situation is always as bad as you expect, so you miss the chance to work out how to manage your fears and reduce your anxiety. Anxiety problems tend to increase if you get into this pattern. Exposing yourself to your fears can be an effective way of overcoming this anxiety. The experience of anxiety involves nervous system arousal.(https:www.psychologytoday.comusbloginsight-therapy201009overcoming-fear-the-only-way-out-is-through) If your nervous system is not aroused, you cannot experience anxiety. Understandably, but unfortunately, most people attempt to cope with feelings of anxiety by avoiding situations or objects that elicit the feelings. Avoidance, however, prevents your nervous system from habituating. Therefore, avoidance guarantees that the feared object or situation will remain novel, and hence arousing, and hence anxiety provoking. Moreover, avoidance tends to generalize over time. If you avoid the elevator at work, you will soon begin to avoid all elevators, and then all buildings that house elevators. Soon enough, you'll be living in a prison of avoidance. If your anxiety is situational and not too extreme, you can try to address it through exposure therapy. You slowly carefully expose yourself to situations that you know give you fear. Here are two easy to follow guides on that. The one regarding spiders, is a blue print. You can replace spider with anything. Fear of driving. Fear of using a phone. How to Overcome the Fear of Spiders(https:www.wikihow.comOvercome-the-Fear-of-Spiders) (wikihow) How to Overcome Fear(https:www.wikihow.comOvercome-Fear) (wikihow) For all of the below advice, use technology to your advantage. Take your phone and set repeating alarm clock reminders, with labels of what to do. Train yourself to either snooze or reschedule the reminders if you can't take action right away, but never to ignore them. The intention is to condition yourself(https:www.cleverism.comclassical-conditioning), to build habits, so you will start healing yourself without having to think about it. Sleep: Good sleep is very important when treating anxiety(https:www.anxiety.orgsleep-a-fundamental-cure-for-anxiety) When you have days where you don't have to do anything, don't oversleep, set an alarm clock. You really don't need more than 7 hours at most per night (a little more(https:health.onehowto.comarticlehow-many-hours-of-sleep-are-needed-per-night-by-age-8233.html) if you are under 18). If you can't fall sleep, try taking melatonin one hour before going to bed. It's cheap(https:www.amazon.comdpB003JJ9TQA), OTC and is scientifically proven(https:www.webmd.comvitaminsaiingredientmono-940melatonin) to help regulate your sleep pattern. Also, rule(https:www.webmd.comsleep-disorderssleep-apneanews20120330sleep-apnea-linked-depression1) out sleep apnea(https:www.healthcentral.comarticlesleep-apnea-treatment-resistant-depression). Up to 6 of people have this, but not everyone knows(https:www.webmd.comsleep-disorderssleep-apneafeaturessleep-apnea-clues1). If you find yourself often awake at night, start counting. Don't grab your phone, don't look at the clock, don't do anything interesting. We're trying to bore you to sleep, not keep you entertained - sometimes it might feel like you've done it for hours and hours, but often it's really not all that long. Anytime your mind wanders away from the numbers and starts thinking, start over at 1. count at the speed of either your heartbeat or your breathing, whatever you prefer. If that still doesn't work and you really want to sleep, buy a dodow(https:www.amazon.comDodow-Device-300-000-Falling-AsleepdpB00ZFOB4BK)(60) andor a white noise generator(https:www.amazon.comBig-Red-Rooster-White-Machine) (20). Meditate: Anxiety can be reduced with meditation(https:bebrainfit.commeditation-anxiety). 10 minute meditation for anxiety(https:www.youtube.comwatch?vO-6f5wQXSu8) (youtube). Your attention is like a muscle. The more you train it, the better the control you have over it. Mindfulness training(https:www.mindful.orgmeditationmindfulness-getting-started) will help you gain better control over your mind. It doesn't take much effort, just 15 to 20 minutes a day of doing nothing but focus your attention is enough and is scientifically proven to work. As you become better at focusing your attention, it will become easier to force yourself to stop having negative thoughts, which will break the negative reinforcement cycle. Go here if you have specific questions: rMeditation Exercise: The effect of exercise on anxiety(https:www.calmclinic.comanxietytreatmentexercising) If you have access to a gym, then start lifting weights. If you don't have access to a gym (or you don't like lifting), start running. If you can't run, then start walking. Just start small. 10 minutes three times a week is fine. You don't have to run fast, just run and then slowly build it up over time. Exercising does several things: It releases endorphins, it takes your mind of your negative thoughts and it will improve your overall health. Give lots of hugs: Hugs release oxytocin(https:health.usnews.comhealth-newshealth-wellnessarticles2016-02-03the-health-benefits-of-hugging), which improves your mood and relaxes you. So find people to hug. If you are single, hug your parents or friends. If you can't, see if a dog is an option. Most dogs love to hug. Another solution that provides the same benefit is a weighted blanket(https:www.amazon.coms?kweightedblanket) will provide a similar positive effect at night(https:www.healthline.comhealthanxietydo-weighted-blankets-workbenefits). You should try to aim for 12 hugs a day(https:psychology-spot.combrain-needs) (if you currently don't hug a lot, I suggest you slowly build it up over time). Phone apps that will help you: FearTools - Anxiety Aid Calm - Meditate, Sleep, Relax Here are specific instructions on when and how to get professional help.(https:www.reddit.comrAnxietywikigettinghelp) Many healthcare providers now offer telehealth. Just contact your doctor's office or the phone number on your insurance card and ask what your options are. Highest rated Youtube Videos: Generalized anxiety disorder (GAD) - causes, symptoms amp; treatment(https:www.youtube.comwatch?v9mPwQTiMSj8) (1.2M views) 3 Instantly Calming CBT Techniques For Anxiety(https:www.youtube.comwatch?vJiDaTiiQrY) (850K views) 5 Easy Tips to Beat Anxiety!(https:www.youtube.comwatch?v0GgsV2nKL9w) (260K views) Free support options: rKindVoice will match you up with a volunteer that will listen to you. 7 Cups of Tea(https:www.7cups.com) has both a free trained volunteer service as well as 150 monthly licensed therapist option If you are in a crisis and want free help from a live, trained Crisis Counselor, text HOME to 741741(https:www.crisistextline.orgtexting-in) If you have any further questions, you should ask them here: rAnxiety The best time to submit on Reddit is early in the morning EST(https:thebetterwebmovement.comchoosing-best-time-post-to-reddit).
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For myself: my research/journey roughly followed the aforementioned steps. Some specifics:
Toolkit: I grabbed Ousterhout's book, watched Justine Lee's lecture on youtube, watched more than a few FFS journey youtube videos, independently looked up every procedure i saw mentioned here or on FB. My sources for that were the forums themselves, medical journals when available, surgeon Instagram pages, general medical information pages, surgeon's websites/talks/comments, I researched the structure of the skull, the bones themselves, the plastic surgery subreddit was helpful for point to results/info about some procedures such as rhinoplasty (lots of info about them online as they are extremely common). Basically tried to get to the point where i could move down my own face, point to each area, and say what procedures could happen, what was involved, and what they should do.
Conclusion: felt pretty comfortable but there are always gaps, we arent surgeons.
2) I went overboard on this one (aesthetics). While a fair bit was ambiently scrolling through results, i took it even broader. I compiled every result I could find and compiled them together into folders for each surgeon. I tagged results based on overall quality or a specific feature/change I liked. These little results libraries gave me a better sense of a surgeon's overall output, quirks, etc. I also did a fair bit of work with just cis faces. Took faces of various celebrities, randos on the internet, and used it like training. Asked myself to name specifically what i liked and didnt like about each face, to justify. My job has be interact with a lot of people. Tried to whenever i saw a new female face, rapidly note features that worked/didnt, what i was drawn to, whether it could map onto me. (This isnt the healthiest thing to do, but worked nicely for that time to develop my desire. currently unlearning doing this). I have a folder thats just noses that I think are good (and not good).
Conclusion: While I appreciated the instagram look, glam, concluded wasnt for me. My priorites: a) natural look as though I hadnt had work done or minimal work. b) not content just addressing dysphoria, wanted minimal beautification as part of that. I came to refer to this as "I want to look like my sister. If my sister was the hoter sibling." I didnt want a new face or too look like a model, I wanted my face but feminized (and if it was spruced up even better). This would mean going hard on masculine features (like forehead setback), but light on things like a rhinoplasty or cheeks. This kinda steals from #4 too, I did them a bit simultaneously. My aesthetic taste fundamentally came down on the idea that the procedures needed to suit the face. The best outcomes for me felt like they were tailored to that individual person, making the most feminine and beautiful THEY could be, not some abstract standard of what a hot girl face looked like.
3) After a lot of math and playing out various scenarios. I realized a few things. I had some flexbility (income, good insurance, paid time off), but I fundamentally wasnt willing to mortgage my future for a marginally better face. 100,000 of debt was untenable to me. I would either figure out a viable path for insurance, partial paying, or I would wait until I could make something work. I had a good support network, savings, and insurance that might actually cover everything. I would work from there. (also, being in the US, i felt 0 need to go abroad, which was important to conclude).
Conclusion: While i wouldnt outright exclude a surgeon for financials, I would allow finances to dictate a ceiling on some of my more outlandish desires. I would allow myself to remember that while I would have this face forever, I also would have whatever financial damage I did for a good long while. I could afford another city, and I could afford to recover there for a while.
4) Given all this, I made a spreadsheet of surgeons, weighing all the info I had. I gave them scores based on aesthetics, finances, location, reputation, policies, etc and weighted those based on how important I found them to be. I selected my top 4 based on this, as well as two locally based surgeons, and scheduled my consultations. My 4, for context, were DB, Jumaily, Mardirossian, and Justine Lee. They were all viable, in various ways, and represented different things I valued. I viewed my local surgeons as essentially a control group. A baseline of whatever surgeons happened to be around as compared to some big names.
Conclusion: I picked my surgeons, and also walked in with a clear idea of what mattered to me. Going into consultations, I did and do believe that these are all very talented surgeons and I would be in good hands regardless. That baseline satisfied, I viewed the initial consultations as a different kind of test, not so much to establish competency (tho theres that) but to figure out if I could feel comfortable with them as my surgeon. Could we share a vision? Would I feel heard? Did I trust them to tell me the truth and to communicate properly? One thing that reared its head as I came to this point was a frustration that had been building for quite a while. Seeing so many surgeons, so many comments, so much conversation, so much marketing. Id gotten really really sick of the salesmanship of it all. Id gotten sick of surgeon's promising the world, obscuring the costs, obscuring their outcomes, selling people on procedures they didnt understand or throwing bonus procedures at them last second, being uncommunicative about risks or followup, on and on. By the same token, Id gotten sick of people referring to surgeons as "true artists" putting them on pedestals. I think despite the rhetoric, so many surgeons dont really behave like this is an essential medical procedure. They behave like this is all cosmetic. I view these surgeons as essentially financial vampires on the trans community. I didnt want to feel like I was being sold, I wanted someone to have an honest conversation with me about possbilities, outcomes, the same as a normal doctor discussing a normal surgery with a patient. That was one of the foremost thing for me to test.
5) The consultations went well; they were extremely fascinating as a study in differences. Afterwards, I compiled my notes into little summaries, noted the procedures, but also my impressions/feelings, and overall takeaway. I then sat on those for 3 weeks or so (not allow myself to process and feel comfortable) and made my decision.
Conclusion: Although all the aforementioned surgeons are extremely good, I ultimately decided on Justine Lee. I view her as the #2 surgeon in the world right now based on results alone. I appreciated her flexbility, her honesty during our consultation about her preferences and how far she was willing to take those, her thoroughness, and frankly her general integrity. More than any other surgeon, it feel like she was really listening, really taking in my goals and feelings. It felt like she was deeply committed to me getting the outcome I wanted. It also helped that her office is extremely intense about insurance coverage; I've heard stories of her commenting more than once that FFS is a medical right as a trans women if we want it and that extends to it not bankrupting us. I even enjoyed things like her insistence that people stay in the hospital the night after for monitoring. My impression was an extremely skilled surgeon who actually walked the walk about trans healthcare. Anyway, just my 4000 cents (lol, this is a stupidly long essay sorry). Feel free to DM with any more questions. <3
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For myself: my researchjourney roughly followed the aforementioned steps. Some specifics: Toolkit: I grabbed Ousterhout's book, watched Justine Lee's lecture on youtube, watched more than a few FFS journey youtube videos, independently looked up every procedure i saw mentioned here or on FB. My sources for that were the forums themselves, medical journals when available, surgeon Instagram pages, general medical information pages, surgeon's websitestalkscomments, I researched the structure of the skull, the bones themselves, the plastic surgery subreddit was helpful for point to resultsinfo about some procedures such as rhinoplasty (lots of info about them online as they are extremely common). Basically tried to get to the point where i could move down my own face, point to each area, and say what procedures could happen, what was involved, and what they should do. Conclusion: felt pretty comfortable but there are always gaps, we arent surgeons. 2) I went overboard on this one (aesthetics). While a fair bit was ambiently scrolling through results, i took it even broader. I compiled every result I could find and compiled them together into folders for each surgeon. I tagged results based on overall quality or a specific featurechange I liked. These little results libraries gave me a better sense of a surgeon's overall output, quirks, etc. I also did a fair bit of work with just cis faces. Took faces of various celebrities, randos on the internet, and used it like training. Asked myself to name specifically what i liked and didnt like about each face, to justify. My job has be interact with a lot of people. Tried to whenever i saw a new female face, rapidly note features that workeddidnt, what i was drawn to, whether it could map onto me. (This isnt the healthiest thing to do, but worked nicely for that time to develop my desire. currently unlearning doing this). I have a folder thats just noses that I think are good (and not good). Conclusion: While I appreciated the instagram look, glam, concluded wasnt for me. My priorites: a) natural look as though I hadnt had work done or minimal work. b) not content just addressing dysphoria, wanted minimal beautification as part of that. I came to refer to this as "I want to look like my sister. If my sister was the hoter sibling." I didnt want a new face or too look like a model, I wanted my face but feminized (and if it was spruced up even better). This would mean going hard on masculine features (like forehead setback), but light on things like a rhinoplasty or cheeks. This kinda steals from 4 too, I did them a bit simultaneously. My aesthetic taste fundamentally came down on the idea that the procedures needed to suit the face. The best outcomes for me felt like they were tailored to that individual person, making the most feminine and beautiful THEY could be, not some abstract standard of what a hot girl face looked like. 3) After a lot of math and playing out various scenarios. I realized a few things. I had some flexbility (income, good insurance, paid time off), but I fundamentally wasnt willing to mortgage my future for a marginally better face. 100,000 of debt was untenable to me. I would either figure out a viable path for insurance, partial paying, or I would wait until I could make something work. I had a good support network, savings, and insurance that might actually cover everything. I would work from there. (also, being in the US, i felt 0 need to go abroad, which was important to conclude). Conclusion: While i wouldnt outright exclude a surgeon for financials, I would allow finances to dictate a ceiling on some of my more outlandish desires. I would allow myself to remember that while I would have this face forever, I also would have whatever financial damage I did for a good long while. I could afford another city, and I could afford to recover there for a while. 4) Given all this, I made a spreadsheet of surgeons, weighing all the info I had. I gave them scores based on aesthetics, finances, location, reputation, policies, etc and weighted those based on how important I found them to be. I selected my top 4 based on this, as well as two locally based surgeons, and scheduled my consultations. My 4, for context, were DB, Jumaily, Mardirossian, and Justine Lee. They were all viable, in various ways, and represented different things I valued. I viewed my local surgeons as essentially a control group. A baseline of whatever surgeons happened to be around as compared to some big names. Conclusion: I picked my surgeons, and also walked in with a clear idea of what mattered to me. Going into consultations, I did and do believe that these are all very talented surgeons and I would be in good hands regardless. That baseline satisfied, I viewed the initial consultations as a different kind of test, not so much to establish competency (tho theres that) but to figure out if I could feel comfortable with them as my surgeon. Could we share a vision? Would I feel heard? Did I trust them to tell me the truth and to communicate properly? One thing that reared its head as I came to this point was a frustration that had been building for quite a while. Seeing so many surgeons, so many comments, so much conversation, so much marketing. Id gotten really really sick of the salesmanship of it all. Id gotten sick of surgeon's promising the world, obscuring the costs, obscuring their outcomes, selling people on procedures they didnt understand or throwing bonus procedures at them last second, being uncommunicative about risks or followup, on and on. By the same token, Id gotten sick of people referring to surgeons as "true artists" putting them on pedestals. I think despite the rhetoric, so many surgeons dont really behave like this is an essential medical procedure. They behave like this is all cosmetic. I view these surgeons as essentially financial vampires on the trans community. I didnt want to feel like I was being sold, I wanted someone to have an honest conversation with me about possbilities, outcomes, the same as a normal doctor discussing a normal surgery with a patient. That was one of the foremost thing for me to test. 5) The consultations went well; they were extremely fascinating as a study in differences. Afterwards, I compiled my notes into little summaries, noted the procedures, but also my impressionsfeelings, and overall takeaway. I then sat on those for 3 weeks or so (not allow myself to process and feel comfortable) and made my decision. Conclusion: Although all the aforementioned surgeons are extremely good, I ultimately decided on Justine Lee. I view her as the 2 surgeon in the world right now based on results alone. I appreciated her flexbility, her honesty during our consultation about her preferences and how far she was willing to take those, her thoroughness, and frankly her general integrity. More than any other surgeon, it feel like she was really listening, really taking in my goals and feelings. It felt like she was deeply committed to me getting the outcome I wanted. It also helped that her office is extremely intense about insurance coverage; I've heard stories of her commenting more than once that FFS is a medical right as a trans women if we want it and that extends to it not bankrupting us. I even enjoyed things like her insistence that people stay in the hospital the night after for monitoring. My impression was an extremely skilled surgeon who actually walked the walk about trans healthcare. Anyway, just my 4000 cents (lol, this is a stupidly long essay sorry). Feel free to DM with any more questions. lt;3
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“A possible transmission chain is now logically consistent — which it was not before I read the proposal.”
Martin Wikelski, a director at the Max Planck Institute of Animal Behavior in Germany, whose work tracking bats and other animals was referenced in the grant application without his knowledge, also said it made him more open to the idea that the pandemic may have its roots in a lab. “The information in the proposal certainly changes my thoughts about a possible origin of SARS-CoV-2,” Wikelski told The Intercept. “In fact, a possible transmission chain is now logically consistent — which it was not before I read the proposal.”
“The work describes generating full-length bat SARS-related coronaviruses that are thought to pose a risk of human spillover. And that’s the type of work that people could plausibly postulate could have led to a lab-associated origin of SARS-CoV-2,” said Jesse Bloom, a professor at Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center and director of the Bloom Lab, which studies the evolution of viruses. Bloom pointed out that the scientists acknowledge the risk to humans in their proposal. “It’s an explicit goal of the grant to identify the bat SARS-related coronaviruses that they think pose the highest risk.”
Stuart Newman, a professor of cell biology who directs the developmental biology laboratory at New York Medical College, also said the fact that the viruses weren’t known to be dangerous didn’t preclude the possibility that they might become so. “That’s really disingenuous,” Newman said of the argument. “The people that are claiming natural emergence say that it begins with a bat virus that evolved to be compatible with humans. If you use that logic, then this virus could be a threat because it could also make that transition.” Newman, a longtime critic of gain-of-function research and founder of the Council for Responsible Genetics, said that the proposal confirmed some of his worst fears. “This is not like slightly stepping over the line,” said Newman. “This is doing everything that people say is going to cause a pandemic if you do it.”
“While the grant proposal does not provide the smoking gun that SARS-CoV-2 escaped from a lab, for some scientists it adds to the evidence that it might have. “Whether that particular study did or didn’t [lead to the pandemic], it certainly could have,” said Nunberg, of Montana Biotechnology Center. “Once you make an unnatural virus, you’re basically setting it up in an unstable evolutionary place. The virus is going to undergo a whole bunch of changes to try and cope with its imperfections. So who knows what will come of it.” The risks of such research are profound and irreversible, he said. “You can’t call back the virus once you release it into the environment.”
“DARPA documents included in the leak show the agency rejected the grant proposal as too risky, but the fact that most all of the DARPA grant applicants are or were at the time recipients of NIH NIAID funds, under Dr. Fauci, either directly or through subgrants, has raised more than a few eyebrows.”
https://www.science.org/content/article/fights-over-confidentiality-pledge-and-conflicts-interest-tore-apart-covid-19-origin-probe
“An effort to probe the origin of the COVID-19 pandemic that was intended to sidestep politics has foundered amid accusations of conflicts of interest and bias. The head of The Lancet COVID-19 Commission, an interdisciplinary initiative set up by the prestigious medical journal to improve the world’s response to the pandemic, last month quietly and abruptly dissolved its origin task force after 10 months of work. That news, first reported by The Wall Street Journal, was preceded by a dispute over academic freedom, Science has learned, and also reflects the deep and bitter divisions that have been steadily escalating over whether a natural spillover of a virus was the trigger or whether laboratory studies might have played some role.”
“The commission’s chair, Columbia University economist Jeffrey Sachs, says he was concerned that five of the 12 task force members, including the original and current chairs, had potential conflicts of interest because of their direct and indirect ties to a lab in Wuhan, China, at the center of the origin debate. But Gerald Keusch, the current chair, charges that Sachs didn’t trust that the task force members would give the lab-origin hypothesis a fair evaluation and attempted to influence how they conducted their work, including demanding access to confidential interviews with experts on both sides of the debate whom they promised not to identify.”
“Ironically, the Wuhan lab was funded with $600,000 in NIAID subgrants from Fauci’s agency’s biodefense funds, as the doctor himself admitted to Congress.”
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A possible transmission chain is now logically consistent which it was not before I read the proposal. Martin Wikelski, a director at the Max Planck Institute of Animal Behavior in Germany, whose work tracking bats and other animals was referenced in the grant application without his knowledge, also said it made him more open to the idea that the pandemic may have its roots in a lab. The information in the proposal certainly changes my thoughts about a possible origin of SARS-CoV-2, Wikelski told The Intercept. In fact, a possible transmission chain is now logically consistent which it was not before I read the proposal. The work describes generating full-length bat SARS-related coronaviruses that are thought to pose a risk of human spillover. And thats the type of work that people could plausibly postulate could have led to a lab-associated origin of SARS-CoV-2, said Jesse Bloom, a professor at Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center and director of the Bloom Lab, which studies the evolution of viruses. Bloom pointed out that the scientists acknowledge the risk to humans in their proposal. Its an explicit goal of the grant to identify the bat SARS-related coronaviruses that they think pose the highest risk. Stuart Newman, a professor of cell biology who directs the developmental biology laboratory at New York Medical College, also said the fact that the viruses werent known to be dangerous didnt preclude the possibility that they might become so. Thats really disingenuous, Newman said of the argument. The people that are claiming natural emergence say that it begins with a bat virus that evolved to be compatible with humans. If you use that logic, then this virus could be a threat because it could also make that transition. Newman, a longtime critic of gain-of-function research and founder of the Council for Responsible Genetics, said that the proposal confirmed some of his worst fears. This is not like slightly stepping over the line, said Newman. This is doing everything that people say is going to cause a pandemic if you do it. While the grant proposal does not provide the smoking gun that SARS-CoV-2 escaped from a lab, for some scientists it adds to the evidence that it might have. Whether that particular study did or didnt lead to the pandemic, it certainly could have, said Nunberg, of Montana Biotechnology Center. Once you make an unnatural virus, youre basically setting it up in an unstable evolutionary place. The virus is going to undergo a whole bunch of changes to try and cope with its imperfections. So who knows what will come of it. The risks of such research are profound and irreversible, he said. You cant call back the virus once you release it into the environment. DARPA documents included in the leak show the agency rejected the grant proposal as too risky, but the fact that most all of the DARPA grant applicants are or were at the time recipients of NIH NIAID funds, under Dr. Fauci, either directly or through subgrants, has raised more than a few eyebrows. https:www.science.orgcontentarticlefights-over-confidentiality-pledge-and-conflicts-interest-tore-apart-covid-19-origin-probe An effort to probe the origin of the COVID-19 pandemic that was intended to sidestep politics has foundered amid accusations of conflicts of interest and bias. The head of The Lancet COVID-19 Commission, an interdisciplinary initiative set up by the prestigious medical journal to improve the worlds response to the pandemic, last month quietly and abruptly dissolved its origin task force after 10 months of work. That news, first reported by The Wall Street Journal, was preceded by a dispute over academic freedom, Science has learned, and also reflects the deep and bitter divisions that have been steadily escalating over whether a natural spillover of a virus was the trigger or whether laboratory studies might have played some role. The commissions chair, Columbia University economist Jeffrey Sachs, says he was concerned that five of the 12 task force members, including the original and current chairs, had potential conflicts of interest because of their direct and indirect ties to a lab in Wuhan, China, at the center of the origin debate. But Gerald Keusch, the current chair, charges that Sachs didnt trust that the task force members would give the lab-origin hypothesis a fair evaluation and attempted to influence how they conducted their work, including demanding access to confidential interviews with experts on both sides of the debate whom they promised not to identify. Ironically, the Wuhan lab was funded with 600,000 in NIAID subgrants from Faucis agencys biodefense funds, as the doctor himself admitted to Congress.
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To be clear, though, Shirley Williams is only named as Prime Minister in the novels. The Brigadier talks about a female PM in *Terror of the Zygons*, but she's never named on-screen. The novelization calls her "Shirley," but leaves out her surname. It's not until Lawrence Miles's *Interference* in 2000 that she's directly associated with the honorable Ms. Williams.
The fictional Ms. Phipps, meanwhile, has only appeared in the Big Finish Companion Chronicles story *Council of War*, where she was romantically linked to Sgt. Benton during the third Doctor's exile to Earth. She's a local politician plucked out of time by aliens from the future who put her on trial for what she was going to do decades later after being elected Prime Minister.
As best as I can reconstruct, the *Doctor Who* universe diverges from our own when it comes to British Prime Ministers starting in the early 1970s. The list is (with differences from our timeline in bold, dates are approximate):
* Edward Heath (1970-1974) -- *Possibly*. The BBC website formerly suggested that Heath's administration didn't happen, and it was replaced in the *Doctor Who* timeline by Thorpe's. But I don't recall that being attested in any story, so I'm not sure where they came up with the idea, and various novels explicitly say that Heath preceded Thorpe.
* **Jeremy Thorpe (1974-1976)** -- The Brigadier references a "Jeremy" as PM in *The Green Death*, apparently a prediction over who was going to win the then-forthcoming general election. They predicted real-life Liberal Party leader Thorpe; it ended up being a minority government under Labour's Harold Wilson.
* **Shirley Williams (1976-1978)** - A high ranking Labour Party politician of the era, she was never leader in our time line. According to one of the Big Finish fourth Doctor audios, she was ultimately replaced by James Callaghan in 1978, whose real-world tenure covered the entirety of the back half of the 1970s.
* James Callaghan (**1978**-1979)
* Margaret Thatcher (1979-1990) -- Any resemblance to [a future leader of Terra Alpha](http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Helen_A) is surely coincidental.
* John Major (1990-**1992**) - In our timeline, he stuck around until 1997.
* **Margery Phipps (1992-before 1997)** -- She negotiated a lasting peace treaty between the nations of Earth and wrote a book that was still highly regarded half a millennium later.
* **Unnamed Male (before 1997-1997)** -- Assassinated by the Ice Warriors in the novel *The Dying Days*. Probably intended to be Major, but never stated as such on the page. Obviously can't be Phipps because a) he's explicitly identified as a male, and b) Phipps wouldn't be created for another fifteen years.
* **Edward Grayhaven (1997)** - Industrial tycoon and mastermind of Britain's Mars Probe 97 mission, which was secretly a front for an Ice Warrior invasion. Grayhaven took over as PM as the Ice Warriors' quisling, but they wound up double-crossing each other and Grayhaven was killed by the Ice Warrior Xznaal, who was technically King of England at the time. From the novel *The Dying Days*.
* **Terry Brooks (1997-2000)** -- A fictional Labour Party politician, presumably took over from Grayhaven. He rode to electoral success promising education reforms he couldn't hope to pay for (no wonder, with Britain still recovering from Martian occupation!). To save face, he concocted a plan involving the alien Voracians, wherein a batch of computer chips designed to fix the Y2K bug were deliberately faulty. In aftermath, Brooks planned to declare martial law to restore order, and planned to accuse a loyal general of staging a coup. As a result, he'd strip funding from the armed forces, freeing up the money to pay for his social programs. Strangely enough, this insane plan didn't work, and he ultimately admitted to his wrongdoing on TV on 1 January 2000, ending his premiership.
* Tony Blair (**2000**-2005) -- Same as in our timeline, a few years later, per Lawrence Miles's novel *Interference*.
* **Clarke (2005)** -- Presumably the real world Conservative Party politician Kenneth Clarke, but it could be anyone with the surname Clarke, really. Mentioned in the novel *Interference*, the dates mean he was likely the guy assassinated by the family Slitheen in *Aliens of London*.
* **Jocrassa Fel-Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen (2005)** -- Disguised as the recently assassinated **Joseph Green**, that is, from *Aliens of London*/*World War Three*. The UK was stepping up from its nascent tradition of electing humans who were secretly working with aliens into electing the aliens themselves.
* **Harriet Jones (2005-2006)** -- It's not actually clear when she was forced out of the job. It was long enough before the election of Harold Saxon that she had time to get a job in private industry and get the tech needed to contact the Doctor and friends, though.
* **Unnamed Person (2006-2007)** -- Never been seen and never mentioned. All we know is that s/he was defeated in 2007 by Harold Saxon. Might have been a returning Tony Blair, might have been Gordon Brown, or it could have been someone else entirely.
* **Harold Saxon (2007)** - If the 1990s were the decade of PMs betraying Britain to aliens, the 2000s were the decade of aliens disguised as humans becoming PM themselves. The Master, of course, and his tenure wasn't much longer than either Jocrassa Slitheen's or Edward Grayhaven's.
* **Aubrey Fairchild (2007-2009)** - Took over after Saxon. Disappeared and presumed exterminated during the Dalek invasion in *The Stolen Earth*, though if this was at all affected by the subsequent universal reboot in *The Big Bang* is anyone's guess, I suppose.
* **Brian Green (2009-2013)** -- PM during *Torchwood: Children of Earth*. Uniquely, that was an alien crisis that apparently *didn't* topple the government, showing that the UK was likely just getting bored with it all by this point. It's not clear when he leaves office, but there's no reason to think it wasn't a peaceful transition for once, which was getting increasingly rare in recent decades.
* **Unnamed Male in Glasses (2013-2014)** -- From the Titan Comics's eleventh Doctor series. After a alien attracted to negative emotions runs through parliament, he's reduced to a gibbering, fearful wreck, which I can only assume damaged his approval ratings a smidge. Declared unfit for office as a result, he was replaced by...
* **Daniel Claremont (2014-2015)** -- Born a human, transformed into a Sea Devil as a teenager by his boarding school headmistress. Later became PM with the intention of subverting human civilization from within, before being revealed by the twelfth Doctor and Clara in Titan's comics. It's unknown if this ended his career, but I'm guessing not. By now, I think the British public basically expected you to sell out the human race. It'd be electoral suicide *not* to, really.
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To be clear, though, Shirley Williams is only named as Prime Minister in the novels. The Brigadier talks about a female PM in Terror of the Zygons, but she's never named on-screen. The novelization calls her "Shirley," but leaves out her surname. It's not until Lawrence Miles's Interference in 2000 that she's directly associated with the honorable Ms. Williams. The fictional Ms. Phipps, meanwhile, has only appeared in the Big Finish Companion Chronicles story Council of War, where she was romantically linked to Sgt. Benton during the third Doctor's exile to Earth. She's a local politician plucked out of time by aliens from the future who put her on trial for what she was going to do decades later after being elected Prime Minister. As best as I can reconstruct, the Doctor Who universe diverges from our own when it comes to British Prime Ministers starting in the early 1970s. The list is (with differences from our timeline in bold, dates are approximate): Edward Heath (1970-1974) -- Possibly. The BBC website formerly suggested that Heath's administration didn't happen, and it was replaced in the Doctor Who timeline by Thorpe's. But I don't recall that being attested in any story, so I'm not sure where they came up with the idea, and various novels explicitly say that Heath preceded Thorpe. Jeremy Thorpe (1974-1976) -- The Brigadier references a "Jeremy" as PM in The Green Death, apparently a prediction over who was going to win the then-forthcoming general election. They predicted real-life Liberal Party leader Thorpe; it ended up being a minority government under Labour's Harold Wilson. Shirley Williams (1976-1978) - A high ranking Labour Party politician of the era, she was never leader in our time line. According to one of the Big Finish fourth Doctor audios, she was ultimately replaced by James Callaghan in 1978, whose real-world tenure covered the entirety of the back half of the 1970s. James Callaghan (1978-1979) Margaret Thatcher (1979-1990) -- Any resemblance to a future leader of Terra Alpha(http:tardis.wikia.comwikiHelenA) is surely coincidental. John Major (1990-1992) - In our timeline, he stuck around until 1997. Margery Phipps (1992-before 1997) -- She negotiated a lasting peace treaty between the nations of Earth and wrote a book that was still highly regarded half a millennium later. Unnamed Male (before 1997-1997) -- Assassinated by the Ice Warriors in the novel The Dying Days. Probably intended to be Major, but never stated as such on the page. Obviously can't be Phipps because a) he's explicitly identified as a male, and b) Phipps wouldn't be created for another fifteen years. Edward Grayhaven (1997) - Industrial tycoon and mastermind of Britain's Mars Probe 97 mission, which was secretly a front for an Ice Warrior invasion. Grayhaven took over as PM as the Ice Warriors' quisling, but they wound up double-crossing each other and Grayhaven was killed by the Ice Warrior Xznaal, who was technically King of England at the time. From the novel The Dying Days. Terry Brooks (1997-2000) -- A fictional Labour Party politician, presumably took over from Grayhaven. He rode to electoral success promising education reforms he couldn't hope to pay for (no wonder, with Britain still recovering from Martian occupation!). To save face, he concocted a plan involving the alien Voracians, wherein a batch of computer chips designed to fix the Y2K bug were deliberately faulty. In aftermath, Brooks planned to declare martial law to restore order, and planned to accuse a loyal general of staging a coup. As a result, he'd strip funding from the armed forces, freeing up the money to pay for his social programs. Strangely enough, this insane plan didn't work, and he ultimately admitted to his wrongdoing on TV on 1 January 2000, ending his premiership. Tony Blair (2000-2005) -- Same as in our timeline, a few years later, per Lawrence Miles's novel Interference. Clarke (2005) -- Presumably the real world Conservative Party politician Kenneth Clarke, but it could be anyone with the surname Clarke, really. Mentioned in the novel Interference, the dates mean he was likely the guy assassinated by the family Slitheen in Aliens of London. Jocrassa Fel-Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen (2005) -- Disguised as the recently assassinated Joseph Green, that is, from Aliens of LondonWorld War Three. The UK was stepping up from its nascent tradition of electing humans who were secretly working with aliens into electing the aliens themselves. Harriet Jones (2005-2006) -- It's not actually clear when she was forced out of the job. It was long enough before the election of Harold Saxon that she had time to get a job in private industry and get the tech needed to contact the Doctor and friends, though. Unnamed Person (2006-2007) -- Never been seen and never mentioned. All we know is that she was defeated in 2007 by Harold Saxon. Might have been a returning Tony Blair, might have been Gordon Brown, or it could have been someone else entirely. Harold Saxon (2007) - If the 1990s were the decade of PMs betraying Britain to aliens, the 2000s were the decade of aliens disguised as humans becoming PM themselves. The Master, of course, and his tenure wasn't much longer than either Jocrassa Slitheen's or Edward Grayhaven's. Aubrey Fairchild (2007-2009) - Took over after Saxon. Disappeared and presumed exterminated during the Dalek invasion in The Stolen Earth, though if this was at all affected by the subsequent universal reboot in The Big Bang is anyone's guess, I suppose. Brian Green (2009-2013) -- PM during Torchwood: Children of Earth. Uniquely, that was an alien crisis that apparently didn't topple the government, showing that the UK was likely just getting bored with it all by this point. It's not clear when he leaves office, but there's no reason to think it wasn't a peaceful transition for once, which was getting increasingly rare in recent decades. Unnamed Male in Glasses (2013-2014) -- From the Titan Comics's eleventh Doctor series. After a alien attracted to negative emotions runs through parliament, he's reduced to a gibbering, fearful wreck, which I can only assume damaged his approval ratings a smidge. Declared unfit for office as a result, he was replaced by... Daniel Claremont (2014-2015) -- Born a human, transformed into a Sea Devil as a teenager by his boarding school headmistress. Later became PM with the intention of subverting human civilization from within, before being revealed by the twelfth Doctor and Clara in Titan's comics. It's unknown if this ended his career, but I'm guessing not. By now, I think the British public basically expected you to sell out the human race. It'd be electoral suicide not to, really.
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One comnent here: many states in the US have minimal requirements on who can operate lasers (one color light based Tx), IPL intense pulsed light (multiple colors of light) , photonodulation, helium and nitogeen plasma treatments (diffuse ionic/ charged gas), pulsed plasma/ electrical arc’ing/ fibroblast epithelial treatments, chemical peeling, radiofrequency treatments, RF microneedling treatments, galvanic microcurrent Tx, electromagnetic treatments, dermabrasion, muctodermabrasion, dermaplaning, dermal infusion, skin polishing, nanogun mesotherapy which are the big classes of available treatments to improve skin.
Moreover, not only is there little regulation, you have no idea of how many treatments each provider has actually done. People who cut hair have to habe more liogged hours cutting hair 600 plus. No such laser hours logged rewuirement exists. To do coloscopies on your own you have to have ligged 69 supervised colonoscopies. No such requirement if logging laser treatments to proceed to independent laser treatments on people.
Titles and degrees mean someone has met basic requirements for achieving the degree, but not necessarily a commitment or capacity to get you the results you want.
It coukd me an MD or RN that just started doing treatments last week vs a laser tech who has been doing lasers, eith good success for ten years.
So who do you go to?
Trust is the most important thing. Go to someone you, or others you know, trust. Trust has to be earned Every touch point with a client is an opportunity to help that client.
With lasers there is no a clear cut pathway for becoming a laser ecowrt. No resudency training route, as there us for general surgery.
For general surgery, what I trained in, you gave to do a five year residency (on the job training) after completing 4 yrs of undergraduate studies and 4 years of medical school, in the US.
Learming lasers requires a true passion for lasers. Many doctor’s just hire a laser lechnician and they themselves do not do the lasers.
Then there are other dictorscsnd nurses who truly value mastering the art of lasers snd are committed yo learning everything laser. Those passionate people, obsessed with skin improvement by lasers, learn laser safety, and master their craft. After years they are still honing their skills. Those people are who I would seek out, not the lady in the strip mall who got dome doctor to buy a laser for her, paying a monthly director fee to the doctor to circumvent the law. These treatments are cheap for a reason, treatments are not being done by true laser experts.
Oftentines when funds are limited, people just try a groupon offer or go to the strip mall laser spa and are then disappounted with poor “laser results”.
Who are you seeing for your laser treatment?
Do you jnow their laser training ?
What is their passion?
Their life mission ?
Are they just biding time at a job they don’t love, clocking in and out, without a care about you getting results, using the ssme ssettings on everyone?
There are so many variables to consider with laser treatments and on how to assess whether your provider can get you the results you think you are buying.
Doctors that specialize in lasers and who have been doing a lot of laser treatments , daily, who are passionate about mastering their craft are who you shoukd consider going to.
Yes the cost maybe higher, but you are buying their ability to deliver a result, not just a laser package or a halo treatment or an ICON 1540 traatment or a “three-for-me” treatment.
Mastery of energy setting, the dwell time of how long the laser zap light should be sllowef yo stay in your skin m, how many pulses are applied yo your skin, how much energy is too mych based on your dkin melanin content, how much spot size overlap is needed to optimize your resul, how many passes of the laser are needed, are the pulses are double or triple stacked atop one another, or is the doctor using a burst mode (automatic or manual) where the energy is placed into the skin in a tiered, multilayer fashion? These are sll variables that need to be considered and optimized to deliver best result.
Is your laser operator, safety certified?
By who ?
Do they attend laser conferences like ASLMS?
Do they have a high quality laser with built in laser safety features such as automatic contact cooling of the skin, where cold water rubs under a crystal plate cooling the rpudermis snd letting hest target the dermis?
Does their machine have the latest vontact cooling that can offer epidermal skin epidermal cooling before , during ,and after each laser zap?
For laser hair removal the stamp type, even with contact cooling, the treatment requires staff to go along with cooling the skin long enough before pulsing. This is why some laser treatments hurt. Fir soeed, the laser tech goes too fast, so dkin doesnt get cold enough to not hsve pain. Fast zaps eith this kind of machine = laser pulses that hurt. The built in cooling needs time pressed against the skin.
This was supposed to be a painless pulse, provided skingetd cooled long enough prior to the pulse. This can be 3-4 sec over the pbuttock or thigh, or 22-25 seconds at the privates or over bony prominence.
A staff member whi disregards the built in precooling sapphire crystal contact cooling can just zap fast, not let the skin pre-cool, and give clients uncomfortable, painful treatments and can even cause burns.
Caring matters.
Caring to do the job, the right way matters
Other lasers, like the one I now own, have even stronger, adjustable cooling systems, with 4 choices in how cold you want the skin to get.
Level 4 is ultracold -5 degrees.
If the client says it us too cold i go to level 3.
By setting the cold to level 4 full blast, the skin is cooled really well and the client literally has no pain with laser hair removsl- no pain before during and after the pulses, for a true painless and ultrafast laser hair removsl experience. It cools skin while the handpiece is in motion, dluding up snd down skin, firing 10 zaos a second. Only one zap is needed to kill a hair follicle snd bulb.
Pain free treatments are possible. I upgraded to the sliding technology where the operator speed, would could not circumvent skin cooling.
Now I have both fast treatments, and sll 3 wavelengths 755-808-1064 firing simultaneously, for all type of hsir coversge except white/ platinum blonde tgat lacks melsnin target.
Next, does your laser operator have any medicsl training or laser training at all?
Or is their only training a weekrnd course or a one week course where they review so many different lasers in a week, that they are not able to remember much ?
The lady that burned my underams black had none, just a business degree. She set up shop, burning me and likely others too on, her learning curve.
The problem is non medical people opening up laser medical businesses with no (or next to no) medical training. This is creating complications like poor treatment results and burns.
Also consider cost. If the cost of a zap is 25$ for exsmple, a provider giving a one layer of lasers can charge $ 350-500.
If 3 skin depths & 3 pases or three different lasers or energies are chosen the price per treatment can be $1500-3000, sometimes more
Laser treatments are not all equal
Laser education caries vastly.
This field is largely unregulated.
Ask for pictoral proof of their own results.
Ask for references.
Not all laser treatments are equivalent.
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One comnent here: many states in the US have minimal requirements on who can operate lasers (one color light based Tx), IPL intense pulsed light (multiple colors of light) , photonodulation, helium and nitogeen plasma treatments (diffuse ionic charged gas), pulsed plasma electrical arcing fibroblast epithelial treatments, chemical peeling, radiofrequency treatments, RF microneedling treatments, galvanic microcurrent Tx, electromagnetic treatments, dermabrasion, muctodermabrasion, dermaplaning, dermal infusion, skin polishing, nanogun mesotherapy which are the big classes of available treatments to improve skin. Moreover, not only is there little regulation, you have no idea of how many treatments each provider has actually done. People who cut hair have to habe more liogged hours cutting hair 600 plus. No such laser hours logged rewuirement exists. To do coloscopies on your own you have to have ligged 69 supervised colonoscopies. No such requirement if logging laser treatments to proceed to independent laser treatments on people. Titles and degrees mean someone has met basic requirements for achieving the degree, but not necessarily a commitment or capacity to get you the results you want. It coukd me an MD or RN that just started doing treatments last week vs a laser tech who has been doing lasers, eith good success for ten years. So who do you go to? Trust is the most important thing. Go to someone you, or others you know, trust. Trust has to be earned Every touch point with a client is an opportunity to help that client. With lasers there is no a clear cut pathway for becoming a laser ecowrt. No resudency training route, as there us for general surgery. For general surgery, what I trained in, you gave to do a five year residency (on the job training) after completing 4 yrs of undergraduate studies and 4 years of medical school, in the US. Learming lasers requires a true passion for lasers. Many doctors just hire a laser lechnician and they themselves do not do the lasers. Then there are other dictorscsnd nurses who truly value mastering the art of lasers snd are committed yo learning everything laser. Those passionate people, obsessed with skin improvement by lasers, learn laser safety, and master their craft. After years they are still honing their skills. Those people are who I would seek out, not the lady in the strip mall who got dome doctor to buy a laser for her, paying a monthly director fee to the doctor to circumvent the law. These treatments are cheap for a reason, treatments are not being done by true laser experts. Oftentines when funds are limited, people just try a groupon offer or go to the strip mall laser spa and are then disappounted with poor laser results. Who are you seeing for your laser treatment? Do you jnow their laser training ? What is their passion? Their life mission ? Are they just biding time at a job they dont love, clocking in and out, without a care about you getting results, using the ssme ssettings on everyone? There are so many variables to consider with laser treatments and on how to assess whether your provider can get you the results you think you are buying. Doctors that specialize in lasers and who have been doing a lot of laser treatments , daily, who are passionate about mastering their craft are who you shoukd consider going to. Yes the cost maybe higher, but you are buying their ability to deliver a result, not just a laser package or a halo treatment or an ICON 1540 traatment or a three-for-me treatment. Mastery of energy setting, the dwell time of how long the laser zap light should be sllowef yo stay in your skin m, how many pulses are applied yo your skin, how much energy is too mych based on your dkin melanin content, how much spot size overlap is needed to optimize your resul, how many passes of the laser are needed, are the pulses are double or triple stacked atop one another, or is the doctor using a burst mode (automatic or manual) where the energy is placed into the skin in a tiered, multilayer fashion? These are sll variables that need to be considered and optimized to deliver best result. Is your laser operator, safety certified? By who ? Do they attend laser conferences like ASLMS? Do they have a high quality laser with built in laser safety features such as automatic contact cooling of the skin, where cold water rubs under a crystal plate cooling the rpudermis snd letting hest target the dermis? Does their machine have the latest vontact cooling that can offer epidermal skin epidermal cooling before , during ,and after each laser zap? For laser hair removal the stamp type, even with contact cooling, the treatment requires staff to go along with cooling the skin long enough before pulsing. This is why some laser treatments hurt. Fir soeed, the laser tech goes too fast, so dkin doesnt get cold enough to not hsve pain. Fast zaps eith this kind of machine laser pulses that hurt. The built in cooling needs time pressed against the skin. This was supposed to be a painless pulse, provided skingetd cooled long enough prior to the pulse. This can be 3-4 sec over the pbuttock or thigh, or 22-25 seconds at the privates or over bony prominence. A staff member whi disregards the built in precooling sapphire crystal contact cooling can just zap fast, not let the skin pre-cool, and give clients uncomfortable, painful treatments and can even cause burns. Caring matters. Caring to do the job, the right way matters Other lasers, like the one I now own, have even stronger, adjustable cooling systems, with 4 choices in how cold you want the skin to get. Level 4 is ultracold -5 degrees. If the client says it us too cold i go to level 3. By setting the cold to level 4 full blast, the skin is cooled really well and the client literally has no pain with laser hair removsl- no pain before during and after the pulses, for a true painless and ultrafast laser hair removsl experience. It cools skin while the handpiece is in motion, dluding up snd down skin, firing 10 zaos a second. Only one zap is needed to kill a hair follicle snd bulb. Pain free treatments are possible. I upgraded to the sliding technology where the operator speed, would could not circumvent skin cooling. Now I have both fast treatments, and sll 3 wavelengths 755-808-1064 firing simultaneously, for all type of hsir coversge except white platinum blonde tgat lacks melsnin target. Next, does your laser operator have any medicsl training or laser training at all? Or is their only training a weekrnd course or a one week course where they review so many different lasers in a week, that they are not able to remember much ? The lady that burned my underams black had none, just a business degree. She set up shop, burning me and likely others too on, her learning curve. The problem is non medical people opening up laser medical businesses with no (or next to no) medical training. This is creating complications like poor treatment results and burns. Also consider cost. If the cost of a zap is 25 for exsmple, a provider giving a one layer of lasers can charge 350-500. If 3 skin depths amp; 3 pases or three different lasers or energies are chosen the price per treatment can be 1500-3000, sometimes more Laser treatments are not all equal Laser education caries vastly. This field is largely unregulated. Ask for pictoral proof of their own results. Ask for references. Not all laser treatments are equivalent.
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Your mistake is in thinking that high skilled jobs can be replaced with an app while saying low skilled jobs can only be replaced by advanced robots. That makes no sense.
>these jobs are based around to consolidation of large amounts of sometimes confusing information in order to produce usable information for the average citizen to utilize
Most diagnoses are easy and can be made by a 2nd year medical student. There are already plenty of apps in existence you can use to deduce your diagnosis 99% of the time, and they haven't replaced doctors. Doctors administer care in a highly complex clinical environment. There is much more to it than you seem to think.
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Your mistake is in thinking that high skilled jobs can be replaced with an app while saying low skilled jobs can only be replaced by advanced robots. That makes no sense. gt;these jobs are based around to consolidation of large amounts of sometimes confusing information in order to produce usable information for the average citizen to utilize Most diagnoses are easy and can be made by a 2nd year medical student. There are already plenty of apps in existence you can use to deduce your diagnosis 99 of the time, and they haven't replaced doctors. Doctors administer care in a highly complex clinical environment. There is much more to it than you seem to think.
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Days after the last episode, Meta Knight hears a ruckus coming from Whispy's Woods. He enters the forest to find that Reverse Robotnik had turned the forest into his lair, and has been converting the flora of the region into metal. Robotnik then engages Meta Knight by firing a laser from his Egg-o-Matic, which the knight deflects. Robotnik then tries to swoop into Meta Knight, but he dodges and the doctor crashes into a tree. Defeated, Robotnik reveals he has obtained a Chaos Emerald, and feeds it to the Chaos Noob. The episode ends on a cliffhanger as Robotnik reveals he has turned Whispy Woods into Clanky Woods. The robot tree attacks Meta Knight while the doctor and noob fly off
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SYNOPSIS - Days after the last episode, Meta Knight hears a ruckus coming from Whispy's Woods. He enters the forest to find that Reverse Robotnik had turned the forest into his lair, and has been converting the flora of the region into metal. Robotnik then engages Meta Knight by firing a laser from his Egg-o-Matic, which the knight deflects. Robotnik then tries to swoop into Meta Knight, but he dodges and the doctor crashes into a tree. Defeated, Robotnik reveals he has obtained a Chaos Emerald, and feeds it to the Chaos Noob. The episode ends on a cliffhanger as Robotnik reveals he has turned Whispy Woods into Clanky Woods. The robot tree attacks Meta Knight while the doctor and noob fly off
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Regarding your point about the lack of progress in psychopathology and psychiatry, I don't think it can be attributed to funding and early formative difficulties/mistakes.
Simply put the topic of study is harder, and more complex. Also medicine has such different fields, even if they are all about studying peoples health, it's so different that realistic comparison of progress in anything but the crudest way is difficult. Putting that aside, different fields of medicine advance at different rates based on a variety of reasons, but often it's simply the complexity of the topic or some other technological limitation. There's a reason the biggest advances in cardiology happened long before advances similar in magnitude occured in neurology. Mainly the advent of the EEG, and ct/MRI occured later, which reflected the fact that our understanding of the fundamental principles by which each organ functioned developed differently. Consider that the first successful heart surgery (in modern times) happened in 1893. Simplified, the heart is a pump, but the brain is a computer, which technology was invented first?
We've not invented anything really analogous to the human mind, and while we try with general AI there's uncertainty if it will really resemble a human consciousness anyway.
Psychiatry is hard, and doctors who practice it are doing so with an incomplete instruction manual, interpreting signs and features that are vague and misleading, and (as evidence shows) can be easily faked or hidden or mistaken for something else.
As an aside the staff in the original post really should have checked. That it took 2 years and they tried to cover it up is completely unacceptable. And not only should those responsible be reprimanded the system needs to be changed to prevent it from happening again.
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Regarding your point about the lack of progress in psychopathology and psychiatry, I don't think it can be attributed to funding and early formative difficultiesmistakes. Simply put the topic of study is harder, and more complex. Also medicine has such different fields, even if they are all about studying peoples health, it's so different that realistic comparison of progress in anything but the crudest way is difficult. Putting that aside, different fields of medicine advance at different rates based on a variety of reasons, but often it's simply the complexity of the topic or some other technological limitation. There's a reason the biggest advances in cardiology happened long before advances similar in magnitude occured in neurology. Mainly the advent of the EEG, and ctMRI occured later, which reflected the fact that our understanding of the fundamental principles by which each organ functioned developed differently. Consider that the first successful heart surgery (in modern times) happened in 1893. Simplified, the heart is a pump, but the brain is a computer, which technology was invented first? We've not invented anything really analogous to the human mind, and while we try with general AI there's uncertainty if it will really resemble a human consciousness anyway. Psychiatry is hard, and doctors who practice it are doing so with an incomplete instruction manual, interpreting signs and features that are vague and misleading, and (as evidence shows) can be easily faked or hidden or mistaken for something else. As an aside the staff in the original post really should have checked. That it took 2 years and they tried to cover it up is completely unacceptable. And not only should those responsible be reprimanded the system needs to be changed to prevent it from happening again.
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> Wow, english isn’t your first language. Cool, I learned Spanish first
Then why are you worse than me?
>Hierarchies don’t necessarily have to be fixed, nor constant.
I would hope that they are. Otherwise, there isn't much of a structure to them now is there? If you don't have a social *structure* I suppose you couldn't call it a hierarchy. That is a necessary part of the definition. Even when hierarchies do change, the change is always formal and done by some sort of authority or process.
Here you're saying an individual valuing one form of knowledge over another in a particular situation is hierarchy in which case you have a chaotic society where individuals constantly change who they value based on their own subjective situation. And, most importantly, at no point does it lead to a society where experts can command and subordinate (which seems to be what you want).
Your issue is that, once again, you conflate hierarchy with knowledge. They are not the same thing and trying to combine the two will lead to logically incoherency (like how you claim that having information somehow gives you the ability to command which is not true in the slightest).
> We have changed and improved how we categorized the periodic table (of course not exactly a social endeavour, but the same methodology can be used for other system).
The periodic table isn't a hierarchy. Even if, by hierarchy, you meant "a list of objects ranked by some arbitrary standard) it wouldn't be a hierarchy and it most certainly wouldn't be a hierarchy if you're going by social hierarchies.
Giving an example of a categorization table getting new categories as new elements are discovered is not a defense of your argument that *social hierarchies* are fixed. That's a ridiculous argument.
> There is hierarchy in how you structure who gets to do what. Literally by saying, “if you have more knowledge to do x, you ought to do it over they who don’t have as much knowledge”
Except that no one is telling you what you are allowed to do. Having particular sets of skills or information may make you more successful in your goals or your aims but it doesn't *permit* you to do anything. You need some other external authority to do that and, in the natural world, that authority does not exist.
The biggest issue here is that you assume that someone is structuring or deciding for *other* people. You have failed to understand that no one, in anarchy, decides for other people. Individuals simply do what they think should be done, their decisions aren't decided by someone else.
You're naturalizing authority basically. We're talking about a situation where there is no authority. Who is the authority who will decide for other people? God? Because there isn't anyone here.
So, physically, you can try to do heart surgery despite not knowing how to do heart surgery but you will fail. This doesn't mean you're not allowed to do it, it just means that you will fail. Your actions will have negative consequences.
>I’m not saying that a child who knows how to do magic ought to dictate the rules. Someone who knows how to do open heart surgery should be in charge in correcting wrong practice of someone else doing heart surgery, instead of someone who has no idea on what open heart surgery is
You are precisely suggesting that. You are suggesting that someone be entitled to a particular position or command a particular person due to the information they have when A. that is completely unnecessary and B. is an instance of authority.
And whom will decide who is qualified and who is not? Qualification here is determined not by your skills or knowledge but by the license given to you by an authority. So who will decide who will be in that position if not the people involved in the situation?
> When I ask, “who should have the authority to edit a nursing book”, would you reply with, “whoever has most knowledge of nursing and editing”?
No, I would respond with "you don't need authority to edit a nursing book". You speak as if no one can edit a nursing book if they are not authorized by some random person (who don't describe who) to do so. That is simply not the case. It also isn't the case in our current society.
Perhaps you should learn how things work now before asserting that getting rid of authority is a bad idea. You have no idea how authority influences expertise because you don't know what authority is.
> If so, then the line of decision making, rests more urgently with the nursing editor over someone else.
No, the line of decision-making rests solely on individual decision-makers (i.e. the people involved). There is no authority because decision-making or command is not given to anyone but those who are actually participating in the activity.
> Nurse editor > book reader > child who cannot read, in terms of whom ought to dictate how the book be edited.
No. Physically nothing stops anyone from editing a book. I could go buy a nursing book and edit it myself. There is nothing that stops me from doing so.
What world do you live in? Because, in hierarchy, authority or laws don't physically stop you from doing anything. Why do you think crime exists if it did?
> As for the CPR example, you understand that some people can perform it to a more productive degree than others right?
Sure but that won't be along the lines you described. Nothing about being a doctor or a lifeguard means you're better at doing it than other people. I also don't even know what that would entail. If you preform CPR well it's going to be down to having other sorts of information related to the process which many people might lack. And, generally, in a situation where you need CPR you don't need someone with that information.
In that case, it isn't a hierarchy as much as a set of differences. You either have particular physical issues which prevent you from doing CPR well (either in yourself or on the person you're preforming on) or you lack information that may help you do CPR better.
Furthermore, I doubt, if you need CPR, you would need the best person to do CPR, you'd just ask for anyone who knows how to do CPR.. What? If someone is choking are you going to put up a table and interview everyone who knows how to do CPR? Are you stupid?
> In CPR courses (which I have taken) they explicitly tell you to command others to do as you see fit to aid in assistance.
So? Tell me, does this right to command have anything to do directly with the process of CPR? That's like commanding people is tied to pushing a box. You don't need to command someone to push a box. What if no one is around? Are you incapable of doing CPR if you can't order someone around?
If not, then you don't need to command others. That's external to doing CPR.
> Of course they can refuse, like anyone can refuse anything (e.g. just murder people regardless of law, social standards, consequence).
Yes, of course, refusing to participate in the CPR process is like disobeying a king's law. Obviously these are the same things.
Perhaps you are right. Both a king and you are commanding others but difference is that a king's right to command is reinforced by other hierarchies while yours lacks any sort of solidity.
> In terms of value and objectivity, I’d be baffled if you suggest that objective truths don’t exist.
They do. However, not every form of information or knowledge is useful to everyone or in every situation. Ergo, it is subjective. As in, information or expertise that is valuable differs depending upon the individual.
> If you say that those who can understand and communicate objective truths shouldn’t be placed in a higher position to distill those objective truths
They don't need to. Like I said, this does not logically follow. If I know the sun will rise tomorrow, that does not give me the right to command others. The right is external to my knowledge. This is something you are incapable of understanding.
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gt; Wow, english isnt your first language. Cool, I learned Spanish first Then why are you worse than me? gt;Hierarchies dont necessarily have to be fixed, nor constant. I would hope that they are. Otherwise, there isn't much of a structure to them now is there? If you don't have a social structure I suppose you couldn't call it a hierarchy. That is a necessary part of the definition. Even when hierarchies do change, the change is always formal and done by some sort of authority or process. Here you're saying an individual valuing one form of knowledge over another in a particular situation is hierarchy in which case you have a chaotic society where individuals constantly change who they value based on their own subjective situation. And, most importantly, at no point does it lead to a society where experts can command and subordinate (which seems to be what you want). Your issue is that, once again, you conflate hierarchy with knowledge. They are not the same thing and trying to combine the two will lead to logically incoherency (like how you claim that having information somehow gives you the ability to command which is not true in the slightest). gt; We have changed and improved how we categorized the periodic table (of course not exactly a social endeavour, but the same methodology can be used for other system). The periodic table isn't a hierarchy. Even if, by hierarchy, you meant "a list of objects ranked by some arbitrary standard) it wouldn't be a hierarchy and it most certainly wouldn't be a hierarchy if you're going by social hierarchies. Giving an example of a categorization table getting new categories as new elements are discovered is not a defense of your argument that social hierarchies are fixed. That's a ridiculous argument. gt; There is hierarchy in how you structure who gets to do what. Literally by saying, if you have more knowledge to do x, you ought to do it over they who dont have as much knowledge Except that no one is telling you what you are allowed to do. Having particular sets of skills or information may make you more successful in your goals or your aims but it doesn't permit you to do anything. You need some other external authority to do that and, in the natural world, that authority does not exist. The biggest issue here is that you assume that someone is structuring or deciding for other people. You have failed to understand that no one, in anarchy, decides for other people. Individuals simply do what they think should be done, their decisions aren't decided by someone else. You're naturalizing authority basically. We're talking about a situation where there is no authority. Who is the authority who will decide for other people? God? Because there isn't anyone here. So, physically, you can try to do heart surgery despite not knowing how to do heart surgery but you will fail. This doesn't mean you're not allowed to do it, it just means that you will fail. Your actions will have negative consequences. gt;Im not saying that a child who knows how to do magic ought to dictate the rules. Someone who knows how to do open heart surgery should be in charge in correcting wrong practice of someone else doing heart surgery, instead of someone who has no idea on what open heart surgery is You are precisely suggesting that. You are suggesting that someone be entitled to a particular position or command a particular person due to the information they have when A. that is completely unnecessary and B. is an instance of authority. And whom will decide who is qualified and who is not? Qualification here is determined not by your skills or knowledge but by the license given to you by an authority. So who will decide who will be in that position if not the people involved in the situation? gt; When I ask, who should have the authority to edit a nursing book, would you reply with, whoever has most knowledge of nursing and editing? No, I would respond with "you don't need authority to edit a nursing book". You speak as if no one can edit a nursing book if they are not authorized by some random person (who don't describe who) to do so. That is simply not the case. It also isn't the case in our current society. Perhaps you should learn how things work now before asserting that getting rid of authority is a bad idea. You have no idea how authority influences expertise because you don't know what authority is. gt; If so, then the line of decision making, rests more urgently with the nursing editor over someone else. No, the line of decision-making rests solely on individual decision-makers (i.e. the people involved). There is no authority because decision-making or command is not given to anyone but those who are actually participating in the activity. gt; Nurse editor gt; book reader gt; child who cannot read, in terms of whom ought to dictate how the book be edited. No. Physically nothing stops anyone from editing a book. I could go buy a nursing book and edit it myself. There is nothing that stops me from doing so. What world do you live in? Because, in hierarchy, authority or laws don't physically stop you from doing anything. Why do you think crime exists if it did? gt; As for the CPR example, you understand that some people can perform it to a more productive degree than others right? Sure but that won't be along the lines you described. Nothing about being a doctor or a lifeguard means you're better at doing it than other people. I also don't even know what that would entail. If you preform CPR well it's going to be down to having other sorts of information related to the process which many people might lack. And, generally, in a situation where you need CPR you don't need someone with that information. In that case, it isn't a hierarchy as much as a set of differences. You either have particular physical issues which prevent you from doing CPR well (either in yourself or on the person you're preforming on) or you lack information that may help you do CPR better. Furthermore, I doubt, if you need CPR, you would need the best person to do CPR, you'd just ask for anyone who knows how to do CPR.. What? If someone is choking are you going to put up a table and interview everyone who knows how to do CPR? Are you stupid? gt; In CPR courses (which I have taken) they explicitly tell you to command others to do as you see fit to aid in assistance. So? Tell me, does this right to command have anything to do directly with the process of CPR? That's like commanding people is tied to pushing a box. You don't need to command someone to push a box. What if no one is around? Are you incapable of doing CPR if you can't order someone around? If not, then you don't need to command others. That's external to doing CPR. gt; Of course they can refuse, like anyone can refuse anything (e.g. just murder people regardless of law, social standards, consequence). Yes, of course, refusing to participate in the CPR process is like disobeying a king's law. Obviously these are the same things. Perhaps you are right. Both a king and you are commanding others but difference is that a king's right to command is reinforced by other hierarchies while yours lacks any sort of solidity. gt; In terms of value and objectivity, Id be baffled if you suggest that objective truths dont exist. They do. However, not every form of information or knowledge is useful to everyone or in every situation. Ergo, it is subjective. As in, information or expertise that is valuable differs depending upon the individual. gt; If you say that those who can understand and communicate objective truths shouldnt be placed in a higher position to distill those objective truths They don't need to. Like I said, this does not logically follow. If I know the sun will rise tomorrow, that does not give me the right to command others. The right is external to my knowledge. This is something you are incapable of understanding.
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Almost all of this post is wrong but it would take an insane amount of time and effort to disprove it all so I'll just stick with your **batshit** insane idea that only 20% of US computer science graduated get into the industry. Can you just repeat to me that you think 20% of US computer science graduates will find a job in their field? The idea that all of these jobs are being taken by foreign workers is even more laughable. Study after study ( https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1814646116 ) shows that US computer science graduates at even an average US school are massively more skilled than even the graduates from other countries' elite institutions. Ironically for you, the reason there are lots of foreign workers in computer science is because US colleges are not creating **enough** computer science graduates.
And even if your insane numbers were accurate, it's **still** a better argument for computer science graduates. Say it is 4 times more likely to not have a job in your field as a CS graduate vs a doctor. Guess who is more monumentally fucked in that position? The doctor with 300K in debt. And again, this is comparing the type of people who can actually get into med school and succeed vs the random schmucks who are doing computer science. Do you honestly believe that a person with the intelligence and work ethic to have the ability to become a doctor is going to struggle to find employment in a field as meritocratic as CS?
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Almost all of this post is wrong but it would take an insane amount of time and effort to disprove it all so I'll just stick with your batshit insane idea that only 20 of US computer science graduated get into the industry. Can you just repeat to me that you think 20 of US computer science graduates will find a job in their field? The idea that all of these jobs are being taken by foreign workers is even more laughable. Study after study ( https:www.pnas.orgdoi10.1073pnas.1814646116 ) shows that US computer science graduates at even an average US school are massively more skilled than even the graduates from other countries' elite institutions. Ironically for you, the reason there are lots of foreign workers in computer science is because US colleges are not creating enough computer science graduates. And even if your insane numbers were accurate, it's still a better argument for computer science graduates. Say it is 4 times more likely to not have a job in your field as a CS graduate vs a doctor. Guess who is more monumentally fucked in that position? The doctor with 300K in debt. And again, this is comparing the type of people who can actually get into med school and succeed vs the random schmucks who are doing computer science. Do you honestly believe that a person with the intelligence and work ethic to have the ability to become a doctor is going to struggle to find employment in a field as meritocratic as CS?
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Yep. For the vaxes to be sterilizing ya definitely gotta add BLEACH and inject em! And you should use as many “scare quotes” as possible in your posts to up the psychic mojo too! My supposedly science-y friends tell me that variants are inevitable in any virus — but if you get both the infection rate and transmission rate low enough - neither present much of a problem to the public health system - and it can eventually do with Covid what it did with Polio. Of course that means the general public actually listens to experts and follows “guidance” even when it changes over time as new information comes out of evolving actual research.
But hey. That’s MUCH harder than listening to unschooled social media bloviators who make me feel super special and smarter than everyone else cuz they’ve told me about the websites and blogs that they believe in. And websites are HaRD to build, I hear. Snd they tell me they are making BANk on their blogs! So they gotta be highly intelligent, right? And no, none of them are super science smart like doctors
. But they ARE just like ME and that makes me feel safer.
Any one seen my Clorox?
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Yep. For the vaxes to be sterilizing ya definitely gotta add BLEACH and inject em! And you should use as many scare quotes as possible in your posts to up the psychic mojo too! My supposedly science-y friends tell me that variants are inevitable in any virus but if you get both the infection rate and transmission rate low enough - neither present much of a problem to the public health system - and it can eventually do with Covid what it did with Polio. Of course that means the general public actually listens to experts and follows guidance even when it changes over time as new information comes out of evolving actual research. But hey. Thats MUCH harder than listening to unschooled social media bloviators who make me feel super special and smarter than everyone else cuz theyve told me about the websites and blogs that they believe in. And websites are HaRD to build, I hear. Snd they tell me they are making BANk on their blogs! So they gotta be highly intelligent, right? And no, none of them are super science smart like doctors . But they ARE just like ME and that makes me feel safer. Any one seen my Clorox?
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No, it's illegal for them to reject you because of age. Just brace yourself for going back to school and be patient.
You're going to be competing in class with kids, some of whom have lived and breathed math and science for the last few years. If it's been a while, you will find yourself lost in a sea of immaturity-18 year old students, and professors that move *way* too fast through curriculum that will seem alien to you. Considering your GPA, this will be the first time you feel less intelligent than your classmates and it might be bewildering.
**Remember this:** You have incredible life experience. All you have to do is believe in yourself despite how long it takes you to catch up. Keep at it because although it's a tougher climb at the moment, you reward will be much greater because you are building upon *real* life experience. Because of your maturity, you have the potential to learn very deeply and you might just master whatever your specialty is.
**Remember this, too:** You're going to be 40 one day, no matter what. You can be a 40 year old dude, or a 40 year old dude who's also a doctor.
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No, it's illegal for them to reject you because of age. Just brace yourself for going back to school and be patient. You're going to be competing in class with kids, some of whom have lived and breathed math and science for the last few years. If it's been a while, you will find yourself lost in a sea of immaturity-18 year old students, and professors that move way too fast through curriculum that will seem alien to you. Considering your GPA, this will be the first time you feel less intelligent than your classmates and it might be bewildering. Remember this: You have incredible life experience. All you have to do is believe in yourself despite how long it takes you to catch up. Keep at it because although it's a tougher climb at the moment, you reward will be much greater because you are building upon real life experience. Because of your maturity, you have the potential to learn very deeply and you might just master whatever your specialty is. Remember this, too: You're going to be 40 one day, no matter what. You can be a 40 year old dude, or a 40 year old dude who's also a doctor.
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>Based on your response I feel like you missed my point.
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I am saying you are not understanding automation. Automation is not coming just for lowly skilled jobs it's coming for everyone. The best doctor at medical diagnosis in the world is Watson a robot, not a doctor. Even many data scientist(a new field requiring a masters or Dr in data science or a related field consider their day's numbers) There are already more people in college than needed and 1/4 of people who get a bs degree(4-year degree) make less than someone with a high school diploma. This does not end with artificial intelligence surpassing humans only in low skilled tasks. This ends with us passing the torch to artificial intelligence and it's likely going to be far sooner than most of us think.
>Opponents of FD/UBI either feel that we don't need it or aren't viable due to their current benefits or their own lives. We have to think about what it'll do for our future generations, not just ourselves. That's something that, even in your response, haven't mentioned.
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gt;Based on your response I feel like you missed my point. gt; gt; I am saying you are not understanding automation. Automation is not coming just for lowly skilled jobs it's coming for everyone. The best doctor at medical diagnosis in the world is Watson a robot, not a doctor. Even many data scientist(a new field requiring a masters or Dr in data science or a related field consider their day's numbers) There are already more people in college than needed and 14 of people who get a bs degree(4-year degree) make less than someone with a high school diploma. This does not end with artificial intelligence surpassing humans only in low skilled tasks. This ends with us passing the torch to artificial intelligence and it's likely going to be far sooner than most of us think. gt;Opponents of FDUBI either feel that we don't need it or aren't viable due to their current benefits or their own lives. We have to think about what it'll do for our future generations, not just ourselves. That's something that, even in your response, haven't mentioned. gt; gt; UBI or other alternatives are going to have to and will be passed to prevent a terrible future.q
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Hi, 36M here with a severe case. I've started an AMA.
I've had chest pains all my life but got used to them. They felt like cramps to me. Somehow putting mild pressure on my ribs above my pectus would relieve the pain. I used to do this with just my thumb. I've had shortness of breath all my life. Pulling my shoulders back and slow deep breaths would help.
My advice for the long term:
- Don't panic and stay calm. Try to get her to calm down during these pains. Don't forget that during this age the body changes, this hurts for a lot of people but for her it might be worse. So help her to feel calm and breath through it.
- Find a pectus excavatum specialized doctor in the region. Most non-specialized doctors are not aware of the details and problems and often think it's just a cosmetic problem.
- I don't know what triggers the pain. With me it was exercising, but also just out of the blue. It got better after puberty but never went away.
- I don't know of any effective method of correcting this without surgery. See my AMA for my case.
I cannot stress the calmness part enough. Please help her in accepting the pain and trying to relax. If you are tense about it she will be even more tense. Confirm with a doctor that the pain is just pain and nothing else. With me this was the case. I was not having heart attack or failure or something like that. It was just the pain.
Good luck, if you have specific questions about my pectus please use the AMA so other people might learn too.
Tell your sister everything will be alright. Trust me, I know!
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Hi, 36M here with a severe case. I've started an AMA. I've had chest pains all my life but got used to them. They felt like cramps to me. Somehow putting mild pressure on my ribs above my pectus would relieve the pain. I used to do this with just my thumb. I've had shortness of breath all my life. Pulling my shoulders back and slow deep breaths would help. My advice for the long term: - Don't panic and stay calm. Try to get her to calm down during these pains. Don't forget that during this age the body changes, this hurts for a lot of people but for her it might be worse. So help her to feel calm and breath through it. - Find a pectus excavatum specialized doctor in the region. Most non-specialized doctors are not aware of the details and problems and often think it's just a cosmetic problem. - I don't know what triggers the pain. With me it was exercising, but also just out of the blue. It got better after puberty but never went away. - I don't know of any effective method of correcting this without surgery. See my AMA for my case. I cannot stress the calmness part enough. Please help her in accepting the pain and trying to relax. If you are tense about it she will be even more tense. Confirm with a doctor that the pain is just pain and nothing else. With me this was the case. I was not having heart attack or failure or something like that. It was just the pain. Good luck, if you have specific questions about my pectus please use the AMA so other people might learn too. Tell your sister everything will be alright. Trust me, I know! Edit: spelling
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The same experts go on to so that if your immune system starts making a humming sound, see a doctor immediately.
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The same experts go on to so that if your immune system starts making a humming sound, see a doctor immediately.
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A complete answer could fill a book, but the main reasons are exactly what you mentioned. Time, money, stress. What people simply cannot understand until they either go through it (or have a close loved one do it) is how *much* of all three of those things it is. It is incomparable.
It's not just a lot of time; it's time that you can't spend developing a social circle and living life, time you can't spend (as easily) building a family, time you could dedicate to hobbies or traveling or whatever.
It's not just money, it's a LOT of money. I will be digging out from my student loans until I am 57 the last time I ran the numbers. I'll make decent money when I finish training this year - at age 35, having been in training since age 24 - but most of that money goes straight to the loan servicing. My nonmedical friends and family are a lifetime ahead in careerbuilding, nest egg construction, and generally have been successful in creating wealth where I have not.
It's not just stress, it's a LOT of stress. The comments section of this thread detail it well. More than a few of my classmates developed substance use disorders in medical school or started treatment for mental illness. It's an unnecessarily brutal process.
The only other thing to add is that so, so much of doctoring nowadays has just nothing to do with patient care. It's charting, calling insurance companies, dealing with HR and middle management, completing online modules, and more charting. One of the saddest studies I've ever read showed that as resident trainees progressed through training, they spent more and more time charting and interacting with the electronic health record - and less and less with patients. The actual patient care part of the job is comparatively miniscule compared to even twenty years ago. It's all computer work now. Why spend all the time, money and stress to sit behind a desk?
ETA: If you are dead set on staying in medicine and want to be a 'provider,' do PA or NP school. They are growing in both numbers and independence and you can become an independent practitioner in a tiny fraction of the time.
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A complete answer could fill a book, but the main reasons are exactly what you mentioned. Time, money, stress. What people simply cannot understand until they either go through it (or have a close loved one do it) is how much of all three of those things it is. It is incomparable. It's not just a lot of time; it's time that you can't spend developing a social circle and living life, time you can't spend (as easily) building a family, time you could dedicate to hobbies or traveling or whatever. It's not just money, it's a LOT of money. I will be digging out from my student loans until I am 57 the last time I ran the numbers. I'll make decent money when I finish training this year - at age 35, having been in training since age 24 - but most of that money goes straight to the loan servicing. My nonmedical friends and family are a lifetime ahead in careerbuilding, nest egg construction, and generally have been successful in creating wealth where I have not. It's not just stress, it's a LOT of stress. The comments section of this thread detail it well. More than a few of my classmates developed substance use disorders in medical school or started treatment for mental illness. It's an unnecessarily brutal process. The only other thing to add is that so, so much of doctoring nowadays has just nothing to do with patient care. It's charting, calling insurance companies, dealing with HR and middle management, completing online modules, and more charting. One of the saddest studies I've ever read showed that as resident trainees progressed through training, they spent more and more time charting and interacting with the electronic health record - and less and less with patients. The actual patient care part of the job is comparatively miniscule compared to even twenty years ago. It's all computer work now. Why spend all the time, money and stress to sit behind a desk? ETA: If you are dead set on staying in medicine and want to be a 'provider,' do PA or NP school. They are growing in both numbers and independence and you can become an independent practitioner in a tiny fraction of the time.
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So there's a bit of an issue with nomenclature going on. Back when the condition was RSD, they had [stages 1-4](https://www.rsdrx.com/RSD-Articles/WHAT_IS_RSD.pdf) with clearly defined symptoms and set progression timelines in each stage. When the name changed to CRPS and it was accepted by the broader medical community, they got rid of stages because they realized that symptoms could happen in any combination at any point in time, and that some people could start off with many or all symptoms of one stage and jump to any other outside of the set progression timeline. Meaning disease progression could be stage progressive or regressive. The problem being now, is that there's an impasse because of the acknowledgement there should be stages but they're not sure how to categorize them and define them, or even if there should be a single CRPS type rather than two. There's some general agreement with there being [3 broad stages in CRPS Type I only](https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/328054-clinical?reg=1#b4), none for type 2:
> Acute stage - Usually warm phase of 2-3 months
> Dystrophic phase - Vasomotor instability for several months
> Atrophic phase - Usually cold extremity with atrophic changes
To answer your question directly though, there truly [have been people](https://www.burningnightscrps.org/crpsrsd/signs-and-symptoms/) with CRPS that have had one or all the proposed new stage 4 symptoms for Type 1. It's the least recognized and agreed upon to exist compared with the standard 3 that's they've been trying to define. The link also goes into another factor of that amputation is not a treatment for CRPS as it can cause further spreads for most patients. The ones that have had success with it are few and very far between. Nowadays, it's really only reserved for where there's extreme complications with the limb like limiting movement to a dangerous degree and getting in the way of caretaker assistance or transport/transfers, when there's repeated severe infections who's root cause is in or on the affected limb, or when there's ulcerations and large/numerous open wounds that never heal or more develop that are prone to severe complications. Definitely get a 2nd opinion on amputation from an outside provider that's well versed in CRPS.
I have been in your shoes. Coming up on my 30 year anniversary with 27 of those years bouncing between symptoms of the old and new stage 3 and 4. The symptoms you describe are actually all new Type 1 stage 3 that can then overlap into stage 4 in terms of severity. The clearly defined stage 4 ones you mentioned you have are the no effect treatments and internal organ involvement. There's evidence that CRPS does affect the immune system causing us more issues with fighting off infection and contracting infection much more easily, but with the new Type 1 stages they aren't a primary classified symptom. I had a delay in proper diagnosis and treatment for about 8-9 years, and when I did I begged for an amputation. My doc was one of the best CRPS specialists at the time and even back then he refused explaining that with the more advanced cases it could still be there, spread, and be made worse. There was a period where my CRPS was at it's worst and was having repeated extreme life threatening pneumonia and double kidney infections. I'd end up in the hospital 5-8 times a year, and I even ended up in the ICU/critical care unit from sepsis of unknown causes which led to the beginning of organ failure for just over a month. Even today where I'm at my best, getting by pretty independently, and stable, I'm considered in-between the old RSD stages 3 and 4 due to permanent, irreversible severe muscle/tissue atrophy, joint contracture, hyperhidrosis, difficulty in wound healing, osteoporosis with fragility fractures, loss of tactile sensation, insomnia, lack of REM sleep, history of dermal fissures/tearing from the inside out from extreme edema that starts as pitting edema, dystonia, degradation of joints, livedo reticularis, central sensitization syndrome, brain fog/impaired executive function, degree of temperature/color changes, skin cracking and easy blistering/bruising/ulcerations, hair and nail growth dysfunction, degree of the spreads I've had from the initial area, labile hypertension, syncope, spasms/cramping/twitching, degree of illness from infections and inability to fully clear them getting worse, extreme callouses and nails that crack, autonomic dysfunction, raynaud's, temperature/barometric intolerances, difficulty taking a deep breath unrelated to asthma, migraines, having high inflammatory markers in bookwork (even when my AI disease is well controlled), endocrine issues. While most are secondary symptoms in the new Type 1 stages, they are the result of the severity of the primary symptoms where in the RSD days they could be considered primary symptoms of the stages. These symptoms also didn't appear in the stage order for me either: I had a stage 4 symptom appear severely right away, while there were quite a few one or more mild stage 1 at initial onset for example.
I wouldn't worry so much or place a lot of emphasis on what stage you're in since there's so much disagreement on them currently. What's important is how your case advanced/advances, how the progression has affected you, the degree of the symptoms that impact you, what treatments you respond to, and the expertise of your medical team. There are quite a bit of experimental treatments being investigated or documented in case studies that the average doctor isn't aware of. There's been times I've brought in case studies, meta analyses, and clinical trials and had them completely dismissed with old doctors, where my current team has been very receptive to them as they treat a lot of CRPS patients in the state and are well versed in it. If you feel like you're docs are out of ideas or just throwing whatever treatment they're familiar with at you to see if it sticks, it may be worthwhile to look into the experimental/investigational treatments that have had positive results and discuss it with them to see if they're willing to try it with you.
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So there's a bit of an issue with nomenclature going on. Back when the condition was RSD, they had stages 1-4(https:www.rsdrx.comRSD-ArticlesWHATISRSD.pdf) with clearly defined symptoms and set progression timelines in each stage. When the name changed to CRPS and it was accepted by the broader medical community, they got rid of stages because they realized that symptoms could happen in any combination at any point in time, and that some people could start off with many or all symptoms of one stage and jump to any other outside of the set progression timeline. Meaning disease progression could be stage progressive or regressive. The problem being now, is that there's an impasse because of the acknowledgement there should be stages but they're not sure how to categorize them and define them, or even if there should be a single CRPS type rather than two. There's some general agreement with there being 3 broad stages in CRPS Type I only(https:emedicine.medscape.comarticle328054-clinical?reg1b4), none for type 2: gt; Acute stage - Usually warm phase of 2-3 months gt; Dystrophic phase - Vasomotor instability for several months gt; Atrophic phase - Usually cold extremity with atrophic changes To answer your question directly though, there truly have been people(https:www.burningnightscrps.orgcrpsrsdsigns-and-symptoms) with CRPS that have had one or all the proposed new stage 4 symptoms for Type 1. It's the least recognized and agreed upon to exist compared with the standard 3 that's they've been trying to define. The link also goes into another factor of that amputation is not a treatment for CRPS as it can cause further spreads for most patients. The ones that have had success with it are few and very far between. Nowadays, it's really only reserved for where there's extreme complications with the limb like limiting movement to a dangerous degree and getting in the way of caretaker assistance or transporttransfers, when there's repeated severe infections who's root cause is in or on the affected limb, or when there's ulcerations and largenumerous open wounds that never heal or more develop that are prone to severe complications. Definitely get a 2nd opinion on amputation from an outside provider that's well versed in CRPS. I have been in your shoes. Coming up on my 30 year anniversary with 27 of those years bouncing between symptoms of the old and new stage 3 and 4. The symptoms you describe are actually all new Type 1 stage 3 that can then overlap into stage 4 in terms of severity. The clearly defined stage 4 ones you mentioned you have are the no effect treatments and internal organ involvement. There's evidence that CRPS does affect the immune system causing us more issues with fighting off infection and contracting infection much more easily, but with the new Type 1 stages they aren't a primary classified symptom. I had a delay in proper diagnosis and treatment for about 8-9 years, and when I did I begged for an amputation. My doc was one of the best CRPS specialists at the time and even back then he refused explaining that with the more advanced cases it could still be there, spread, and be made worse. There was a period where my CRPS was at it's worst and was having repeated extreme life threatening pneumonia and double kidney infections. I'd end up in the hospital 5-8 times a year, and I even ended up in the ICUcritical care unit from sepsis of unknown causes which led to the beginning of organ failure for just over a month. Even today where I'm at my best, getting by pretty independently, and stable, I'm considered in-between the old RSD stages 3 and 4 due to permanent, irreversible severe muscletissue atrophy, joint contracture, hyperhidrosis, difficulty in wound healing, osteoporosis with fragility fractures, loss of tactile sensation, insomnia, lack of REM sleep, history of dermal fissurestearing from the inside out from extreme edema that starts as pitting edema, dystonia, degradation of joints, livedo reticularis, central sensitization syndrome, brain fogimpaired executive function, degree of temperaturecolor changes, skin cracking and easy blisteringbruisingulcerations, hair and nail growth dysfunction, degree of the spreads I've had from the initial area, labile hypertension, syncope, spasmscrampingtwitching, degree of illness from infections and inability to fully clear them getting worse, extreme callouses and nails that crack, autonomic dysfunction, raynaud's, temperaturebarometric intolerances, difficulty taking a deep breath unrelated to asthma, migraines, having high inflammatory markers in bookwork (even when my AI disease is well controlled), endocrine issues. While most are secondary symptoms in the new Type 1 stages, they are the result of the severity of the primary symptoms where in the RSD days they could be considered primary symptoms of the stages. These symptoms also didn't appear in the stage order for me either: I had a stage 4 symptom appear severely right away, while there were quite a few one or more mild stage 1 at initial onset for example. I wouldn't worry so much or place a lot of emphasis on what stage you're in since there's so much disagreement on them currently. What's important is how your case advancedadvances, how the progression has affected you, the degree of the symptoms that impact you, what treatments you respond to, and the expertise of your medical team. There are quite a bit of experimental treatments being investigated or documented in case studies that the average doctor isn't aware of. There's been times I've brought in case studies, meta analyses, and clinical trials and had them completely dismissed with old doctors, where my current team has been very receptive to them as they treat a lot of CRPS patients in the state and are well versed in it. If you feel like you're docs are out of ideas or just throwing whatever treatment they're familiar with at you to see if it sticks, it may be worthwhile to look into the experimentalinvestigational treatments that have had positive results and discuss it with them to see if they're willing to try it with you. EDIT: formatting
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The doctors don’t understand but a random dude on reddit with zero medical training knows what’s best for someone else without seeing their labs or anything? People like you give out the worst fucking advice and it’s only gonna do more harm then good. This anti ai bullshit is getting out of hand
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The doctors dont understand but a random dude on reddit with zero medical training knows whats best for someone else without seeing their labs or anything? People like you give out the worst fucking advice and its only gonna do more harm then good. This anti ai bullshit is getting out of hand
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If you consider the questions or problem solving approach that the NHS 111 site uses, I don’t think GPs could easily be replaced. Several times I’ve put my symptoms in and it’s basically said YOU’RE PROBABLY DYING GO TO A HOSPITAL NOW, and then I’ve thought: maybe that headache wasn’t connected, and the response is that I am fine and should take over the counter medication.
A GP let’s you talk and discuss. I doubt any clever bollocks AI will be able to do that. Last time, it told me I needed emergency treatment, but when I saw a doctor at the hospital, he said I had constipation. He was right. Granted, it’s got a lot of good points but by its nature it probably has to over egg the custard.
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If you consider the questions or problem solving approach that the NHS 111 site uses, I dont think GPs could easily be replaced. Several times Ive put my symptoms in and its basically said YOURE PROBABLY DYING GO TO A HOSPITAL NOW, and then Ive thought: maybe that headache wasnt connected, and the response is that I am fine and should take over the counter medication. A GP lets you talk and discuss. I doubt any clever bollocks AI will be able to do that. Last time, it told me I needed emergency treatment, but when I saw a doctor at the hospital, he said I had constipation. He was right. Granted, its got a lot of good points but by its nature it probably has to over egg the custard.
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Healthcare finance professional here: This 100% pulse much more. Not only do insurance companies negotiate lower reimbursement, they actively try to not pay at all by changing the rule in the middle of the game, which requires hospitals to pay consultants to optimize billing systems to make sure bills are correct so we get paid. Also keep in mind the consumer demand for “technology” so Medtronic comes in to convince your surgeon that now they need a robot for $1.6M plus supplies for $6k a case to do the exact thing they did yesterday only marginally better. How do you expect a hospital to pay for that tech? The insurance company isn’t going to pay more this can tell you that for sure.
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Healthcare finance professional here: This 100 pulse much more. Not only do insurance companies negotiate lower reimbursement, they actively try to not pay at all by changing the rule in the middle of the game, which requires hospitals to pay consultants to optimize billing systems to make sure bills are correct so we get paid. Also keep in mind the consumer demand for technology so Medtronic comes in to convince your surgeon that now they need a robot for 1.6M plus supplies for 6k a case to do the exact thing they did yesterday only marginally better. How do you expect a hospital to pay for that tech? The insurance company isnt going to pay more this can tell you that for sure.
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It was actually my grandfather that invented that- it's called the Da Vinci robot, and it's used worldwide to allow surgeons to operate on far away patients. It was actually not the invention he was most known for- that was when he invented the first medical ultrasound while working with the Stanford Research Institute. He retired to build portable electric guitars from his garage, then died of Alzheimer's two years ago.
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It was actually my grandfather that invented that- it's called the Da Vinci robot, and it's used worldwide to allow surgeons to operate on far away patients. It was actually not the invention he was most known for- that was when he invented the first medical ultrasound while working with the Stanford Research Institute. He retired to build portable electric guitars from his garage, then died of Alzheimer's two years ago.
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Hey, I know exactly where you’re coming from hun. :( When I was 17 I had the opposite reaction to this feeling - I overcompensated myself to the point where I lost my sanity and ended up becoming a NEET, despite doing so well for years. At least, on the surface.
I was acing school with flying colors. I worked hard at my jobs and got promotions galore. Had that “Victoria’s Secret model” body, had a lot of friends, partied a lot - everything. The nice apartment, the car, the designer clothes, all those bullshit material things. But it was all a veneer to how I was really feeling. From abusive relationships to untreated, unmedicated mental illnesses, to internalized ableism - I’m autistic too. It was all to fill an empty void.
Here’s where it gets heavy - trigger warning ahead. I was only working hard at school because I was in it for the money, I was determined to break the cycle of poverty that’s plagued my family for many generations. Many of the friends I had were really shitty people who were horribly abusive but I didn’t care, because I felt like that was as good as I was going to get. I was only “pretty” because I was struggling with an eating disorder and crippling body dysmorphia. I’ll spare the details, but when was at 19 when things really hit my breaking point and that mask fell off, where I >!self-harmed REALLY bad to the point where I had to get surgery, and I was institutionalized for a week.!< Got diagnosed with PTSD and Borderline Personality Disorder. Shortly after, I wound up in an on-again, off-again abusive relationship for two years because I was that rock-bottom in my life, all the red flags were there from the very beginning and I knew exactly what I was getting into… but I just didn’t give a shit because I felt that this was as good as I was going to get. THAT was when my path to becoming a NEET started. Got engaged to this guy too. Quit my job, dropped out of college, started hanging around very shitty people, and I gained so much weight too. I started smoking weed excessively to cope, later also started abusing benzos; all of which ultimately lead to my downfall. Had my first severe, treatment-resistant manic episode and developed psychosis from it (that only lasted a few days thankfully) that went on for eight months. It was so bad I was put under a temporary conservatorship and institutionalized for three months. Got diagnosed with bipolar in January and I went through a laundry list of medications, one combo almost killed me. Gained 50lb and was deemed clinically obese in August, and fell into a deep depression when everything was all said and done. Properly medicated now and I couldn’t be happier, although all that time I was a full-on NEET and the neetbux I was getting was to pay off my student debt. Became an ACTUAL Discord admin too lmao. But, I will say that the diagnoses actually explained a lot - my overcompensation was not only a sign of potential untreated manic episodes, but the key symptom of BPD is a crippling fear of abandonment. I realized that I had this mentality of, “if I don’t do everything right, the people I love will end up leaving me.” Went to therapy and that really helped me out. :)
But there were silver linings inbetween. Got the fuck out of my toxic family’s house and moved in with my sister and baby niece, and I finally got the validation that I really was mentally ill and my instability wasn’t just my personality. I suspected I had BPD and BD for many years, but doctors never thought anything was wrong because I masked it all for so long. I also found out who my true friends and family are, and the birth of my niece has honestly been my biggest motivation of all. Been helping my sister raise her since day one. Since the end of August, though, I lost quite a bit of weight and I got a comfortable job (that I’m leaving on Friday because my sister and I are moving), joined some support groups here on Reddit too and it’s really helped; although I still consider myself a semi-NEET. I can’t even go back to school because I don’t qualify for student loans, our car got totalled last month because a deer rammed into the car, and I’ve lately just been procrastinating. I still hate myself every day for falling so behind. But even with all of that on my plate - I’m 23 now and I’ve honestly been the happiest I’ve ever been in years. I feel like me again. :)
SO. With all of that said - the lesson here is even if you do everything “right,” even if you have the “perfect” life… just one fuckup can cost you everything; your dreams, your passions, and your mental health alongside your career and education. You’re still young, Worm. You have so much potential that I wish I had when I was your age. My advice to you, is to figure out what YOU want out of life. But don’t be afraid to take your time. Just take it day by day, and dip your toe in the water before diving in. For example, the first step you can do is give people a casual smile walking down the street, or if you see something you like on someone - being their hair, outfit, etc, give them a compliment! It can really make someone’s day. :) Mistakes do happen, but even if you end up embarrassed, just remember at the end of the day, people are only worried about themselves; not in a selfish way, but they too are trying to navigate through life. We’re all human. Make notes of the goals you want to accomplish, and start working your way to them slowly, it’s okay to pace yourself.
Hell, my sister didn’t get her license until she was 23. She didn’t even use Discord or anything like that - but I was her only friend this whole time. Still has pretty bad social anxiety, but she joined my friend group and now has a group of friends where she feels like she truly belongs. She only has ADHD but she had a hard life worse than mine, actually. But look at us now - we build each other up every day and we’re focusing on raising her daughter, we’re really starting to take on the world together even if we aren’t in college or working “real” jobs. My family has since apologized for their behavior over the years and they’re helping us out as much as they can. I’ve been living off of neetbux from them for a long time now, I still feel bad but I’m grateful for it every day.
ANYWAY. The point is, you don’t need to impress your parents, or anyone for that matter, to feel successful in what you do. It took me years to finally get that through my skull. Do what makes YOU happy, and work towards self-compassion every day. Your mental health comes first. Always. Because no matter what happens, the people in your life who really do matter, whether be friends, family, or even mere strangers, will always be proud of you and they will stand by you, every step of the way. Reaching out to us was the right thing, I’m proud of you for that - it’s okay to ask for help. Hope this tale helped you learn something and give you reassurance, if you need anything we’re here. Keep fighting on love, you’re doing great. Take care. ❤️
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Hey, I know exactly where youre coming from hun. :( When I was 17 I had the opposite reaction to this feeling - I overcompensated myself to the point where I lost my sanity and ended up becoming a NEET, despite doing so well for years. At least, on the surface. I was acing school with flying colors. I worked hard at my jobs and got promotions galore. Had that Victorias Secret model body, had a lot of friends, partied a lot - everything. The nice apartment, the car, the designer clothes, all those bullshit material things. But it was all a veneer to how I was really feeling. From abusive relationships to untreated, unmedicated mental illnesses, to internalized ableism - Im autistic too. It was all to fill an empty void. Heres where it gets heavy - trigger warning ahead. I was only working hard at school because I was in it for the money, I was determined to break the cycle of poverty thats plagued my family for many generations. Many of the friends I had were really shitty people who were horribly abusive but I didnt care, because I felt like that was as good as I was going to get. I was only pretty because I was struggling with an eating disorder and crippling body dysmorphia. Ill spare the details, but when was at 19 when things really hit my breaking point and that mask fell off, where I gt;!self-harmed REALLY bad to the point where I had to get surgery, and I was institutionalized for a week.!lt; Got diagnosed with PTSD and Borderline Personality Disorder. Shortly after, I wound up in an on-again, off-again abusive relationship for two years because I was that rock-bottom in my life, all the red flags were there from the very beginning and I knew exactly what I was getting into but I just didnt give a shit because I felt that this was as good as I was going to get. THAT was when my path to becoming a NEET started. Got engaged to this guy too. Quit my job, dropped out of college, started hanging around very shitty people, and I gained so much weight too. I started smoking weed excessively to cope, later also started abusing benzos; all of which ultimately lead to my downfall. Had my first severe, treatment-resistant manic episode and developed psychosis from it (that only lasted a few days thankfully) that went on for eight months. It was so bad I was put under a temporary conservatorship and institutionalized for three months. Got diagnosed with bipolar in January and I went through a laundry list of medications, one combo almost killed me. Gained 50lb and was deemed clinically obese in August, and fell into a deep depression when everything was all said and done. Properly medicated now and I couldnt be happier, although all that time I was a full-on NEET and the neetbux I was getting was to pay off my student debt. Became an ACTUAL Discord admin too lmao. But, I will say that the diagnoses actually explained a lot - my overcompensation was not only a sign of potential untreated manic episodes, but the key symptom of BPD is a crippling fear of abandonment. I realized that I had this mentality of, if I dont do everything right, the people I love will end up leaving me. Went to therapy and that really helped me out. :) But there were silver linings inbetween. Got the fuck out of my toxic familys house and moved in with my sister and baby niece, and I finally got the validation that I really was mentally ill and my instability wasnt just my personality. I suspected I had BPD and BD for many years, but doctors never thought anything was wrong because I masked it all for so long. I also found out who my true friends and family are, and the birth of my niece has honestly been my biggest motivation of all. Been helping my sister raise her since day one. Since the end of August, though, I lost quite a bit of weight and I got a comfortable job (that Im leaving on Friday because my sister and I are moving), joined some support groups here on Reddit too and its really helped; although I still consider myself a semi-NEET. I cant even go back to school because I dont qualify for student loans, our car got totalled last month because a deer rammed into the car, and Ive lately just been procrastinating. I still hate myself every day for falling so behind. But even with all of that on my plate - Im 23 now and Ive honestly been the happiest Ive ever been in years. I feel like me again. :) SO. With all of that said - the lesson here is even if you do everything right, even if you have the perfect life just one fuckup can cost you everything; your dreams, your passions, and your mental health alongside your career and education. Youre still young, Worm. You have so much potential that I wish I had when I was your age. My advice to you, is to figure out what YOU want out of life. But dont be afraid to take your time. Just take it day by day, and dip your toe in the water before diving in. For example, the first step you can do is give people a casual smile walking down the street, or if you see something you like on someone - being their hair, outfit, etc, give them a compliment! It can really make someones day. :) Mistakes do happen, but even if you end up embarrassed, just remember at the end of the day, people are only worried about themselves; not in a selfish way, but they too are trying to navigate through life. Were all human. Make notes of the goals you want to accomplish, and start working your way to them slowly, its okay to pace yourself. Hell, my sister didnt get her license until she was 23. She didnt even use Discord or anything like that - but I was her only friend this whole time. Still has pretty bad social anxiety, but she joined my friend group and now has a group of friends where she feels like she truly belongs. She only has ADHD but she had a hard life worse than mine, actually. But look at us now - we build each other up every day and were focusing on raising her daughter, were really starting to take on the world together even if we arent in college or working real jobs. My family has since apologized for their behavior over the years and theyre helping us out as much as they can. Ive been living off of neetbux from them for a long time now, I still feel bad but Im grateful for it every day. ANYWAY. The point is, you dont need to impress your parents, or anyone for that matter, to feel successful in what you do. It took me years to finally get that through my skull. Do what makes YOU happy, and work towards self-compassion every day. Your mental health comes first. Always. Because no matter what happens, the people in your life who really do matter, whether be friends, family, or even mere strangers, will always be proud of you and they will stand by you, every step of the way. Reaching out to us was the right thing, Im proud of you for that - its okay to ask for help. Hope this tale helped you learn something and give you reassurance, if you need anything were here. Keep fighting on love, youre doing great. Take care.
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Yeah, William gets away with a lot but it'd be hard to believe he could get away with bribing all his doctors and redacting medical records. XD
As for the missing children part, I just view that as the retcon Scott told us about. It makes the story much nicer and whole (IMO) and clears up a lot of confusion. Now I don't mean a retcon as in 5 kids going to 4, but more GF spirit was replaced by another spirt, like Charlie.
In the book, The Fourth Closet (Oh boy I'm using the crappy book, hold on to your seats folks) Charlie's body was never found (at least that is what I remember when I read it, to be honest I kind of tried to scrub out everything about Charlie and William from that book). Same could have happened to Charlie in the games, she was killed in the ally, and Henry took her home and never told anyone about it. Or even the same could go to Elizabeth, she died by Circus Baby and her entire pizzeria got shut down. And it doesn't seem to be obvious, I mean... if it was, do you think the board member would be so casual around a man they thought made killer robots... eh it's FNaF, it could happen.
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Yeah, William gets away with a lot but it'd be hard to believe he could get away with bribing all his doctors and redacting medical records. XD As for the missing children part, I just view that as the retcon Scott told us about. It makes the story much nicer and whole (IMO) and clears up a lot of confusion. Now I don't mean a retcon as in 5 kids going to 4, but more GF spirit was replaced by another spirt, like Charlie. In the book, The Fourth Closet (Oh boy I'm using the crappy book, hold on to your seats folks) Charlie's body was never found (at least that is what I remember when I read it, to be honest I kind of tried to scrub out everything about Charlie and William from that book). Same could have happened to Charlie in the games, she was killed in the ally, and Henry took her home and never told anyone about it. Or even the same could go to Elizabeth, she died by Circus Baby and her entire pizzeria got shut down. And it doesn't seem to be obvious, I mean... if it was, do you think the board member would be so casual around a man they thought made killer robots... eh it's FNaF, it could happen.
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I did watch and love series 9 and 10. And my problem wasn't the characterisation of the Doctor. My problem actually had a lot to do with the whole Danny arc. Across the whole thing, Clara became a very difficult character for me to like; Danny's interactions with the Doctor and the whole soldier vs. officer thing plays on a WWI view of the British army, not the modern force; and I cannot overstate how much I hated every second of *Robot of Sherwood*.
I loved series 9, however, because it was always my complaint that 45 minute episodes were too frenetic and that the classic serials were better for having room to breathe. Having a series full of two-parters, although it didn't do a great deal for viewing figures, was a nice change of pace for me.
Incidentally, I think having the extra five minutes per episode this series has turned out to be the right balance.
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I did watch and love series 9 and 10. And my problem wasn't the characterisation of the Doctor. My problem actually had a lot to do with the whole Danny arc. Across the whole thing, Clara became a very difficult character for me to like; Danny's interactions with the Doctor and the whole soldier vs. officer thing plays on a WWI view of the British army, not the modern force; and I cannot overstate how much I hated every second of Robot of Sherwood. I loved series 9, however, because it was always my complaint that 45 minute episodes were too frenetic and that the classic serials were better for having room to breathe. Having a series full of two-parters, although it didn't do a great deal for viewing figures, was a nice change of pace for me. Incidentally, I think having the extra five minutes per episode this series has turned out to be the right balance.
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Most likely physicians learned a significant amount more about immunology and viruses in med school and have a far deeper understanding of the vaccine. They also tend to incorporate research into their routine more often and have a better understanding of the data.
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Most likely physicians learned a significant amount more about immunology and viruses in med school and have a far deeper understanding of the vaccine. They also tend to incorporate research into their routine more often and have a better understanding of the data.
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I am in the same boat, Sore. I am drastically limiting the amount of time I read or watch coverage. I’m also on antidepressants, and my doctor added an anti anxiety med. That really helps. Also, movies, reading, podcasts, and music help me divert attention to something else.
This, too, will pass, although it doesn’t seem like that. When you tense up, take 5-10 deep breaths or more and think about a favorite thing or place.
My family doesn’t get it either.
Remember that stress lowers your immune system and causes flares. {{{gentle hugs}}}
I’m no expert, but, I’m here if you want to talk.
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I am in the same boat, Sore. I am drastically limiting the amount of time I read or watch coverage. Im also on antidepressants, and my doctor added an anti anxiety med. That really helps. Also, movies, reading, podcasts, and music help me divert attention to something else. This, too, will pass, although it doesnt seem like that. When you tense up, take 5-10 deep breaths or more and think about a favorite thing or place. My family doesnt get it either. Remember that stress lowers your immune system and causes flares. gentle hugs Im no expert, but, Im here if you want to talk.
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Go back and watch that clip that you're mad about. The Endgame guys love it. You can read it as talking trash, but you can also see it as a sign of respect. "I am thrilled to beat you because of how amazing your robot is" The Witch Doctor fight is a little unsportsmanlike, but the fact that they're the only team wo ever really questions rulings is only uncommon in this sport. Find me one good baseball manager that's never been thrown out of a game by and umpire. Ted Lasso and Beard yell "C'mon ref" when their player gets fouled. If nobody cared about who won, it wouldn't be fun.
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Go back and watch that clip that you're mad about. The Endgame guys love it. You can read it as talking trash, but you can also see it as a sign of respect. "I am thrilled to beat you because of how amazing your robot is" The Witch Doctor fight is a little unsportsmanlike, but the fact that they're the only team wo ever really questions rulings is only uncommon in this sport. Find me one good baseball manager that's never been thrown out of a game by and umpire. Ted Lasso and Beard yell "C'mon ref" when their player gets fouled. If nobody cared about who won, it wouldn't be fun.
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Not OP, but I found this great comment by a cop in the protect and serve subreddit of all places that really did a good job explaining "defunding":
Defund the Police. Let's talk about it. But don't stop reading until its over because you might be surprised. Lets get 2 things out of the way. 1st, the phrase "Defund the Police" is the stupidest proposal ever. 2nd, I actually support the concept at its roots.
Defund means to prevent from receive funding or to withdraw funds from. And I believe the term Defund the Police is intentionally inflammatory, divisive, and charged. It's meant to inspire confidence in extreme outliers that the officers will be fired left and right to open a new utopia. It's meant to bring fear to officers and departments that they will be rooted out and terminated. But that's not what it means, and its own title will hinder it's progress.
Someone who has pull within this movement should immediately change the title to "Stop Overburdening the Police." Because truly, that's what they mean.
When I started in 2004, if I met a person in crisis, a person with suicidal ideations, a person with a mental illness (diagnosed or not), I could at my discretion or their request drive them to the state mental hospital in downtown Phoenix. I would pull up to the front door and drop them off. The problem was dealt with by trained social service employees and medical clinicians. Transients could be directed to one of several shelters to receive food, a bed, supplies, or aid. But resources slowly, and quietly began getting shut down. It actually took me almost a year to realize that the state mental hospital didn't exist any more. Not only could it no longer be used as a resource for me....but the occupants that were housed there were released and trickled out on to the streets.
Instead of defunding the police. Stop overburdening them.
Support crisis intervention teams from your local hospital that are available 24 hours a day to respond out to calls for help. Understand that some programs like that currently exist. Most are underfunded, available intermittently, and almost all require officers to be dispatched with them. If there are no police, they will not go either. Police Officers receive (an anecdotal guess) 2 to 8 hours of crisis training per year, unless an individual officer elects or is directed to attend a 1 week class. Still no where near what a social worker does. Don't make police officers responsible for dealing with your community's mentally ill.
Support homeless shelters, low income housing, multi family housing units, and other resources in your community. High housing costs, population density, unemployment, and the aforementioned mental health issues are causing an increase in homelessness and transients. Officers receive (an anecdotal guess) 0 hours per year training specifically on homeless issues. Some officers may seek out training or resources personally, as a matter of interested. Don't make police officers responsible for dealing with your community's homeless population.
Support after school programs for kids, child care facilities, sports programs, park programs, and tutoring centers. Children raised in single parent households are usually at home by themselves after school.N Idle hands are the devil's playground. Without positive adult role models, positive activities, positive social interaction, and adult supervision, kids will engage in petty crimes, try smoking or drug use, flock to peers with strong (but sometimes unhealthy) personalities. Kids don't need to be introduced to the criminal justice system. They need to be raised responsibly and integrated in to society. Don't make police officers responsible for dealing with unsupervised kids in the community.
Support self service centers at your court house. Custody exchanges, custody disputes, property disputes, landlord tenant issues, etc are not police issues. Attorneys go to school for 6 years or so. Officer get (on average) a 16 week academy and a 16 week field training program. Most of it focused on criminal law. Stop introducing people in to the criminal justice system when they need civil law assistance. Don't make officers responsible for applying criminal law to civil issues or for providing civil law advise to people.
Support increased funding and training for Emergency Call Centers. 911 centers are the first line of discretion in an agency. Many centers receive a call for any request from a citizen and enter a call for service without question. Once that call is entered, an officer must respond. First off, call centers across the country are severely under funded, understaffed, overworked, and burned out. They are almost working on autopilot, for up to 16 hours per shift, days in a row. Demand higher pay for dispatchers, attract better candidates, hire qualified applicants, train them more, and fully staff the centers. Provide cal takers with basic civil and criminal law classes to allow them to filter out non police issues and direct citizens to the right service. In most locations, if you cal 911 (for other than a clear medical emergency) you will get the police. But the police are not always whats needed. Don't use the police as a catch all for any problem you have.
Support evaluating and repealing stupid criminal statutes. Why was Eric Garner contacted in the first place? For selling Loosies (Loose, singe cigarettes). Why is that even illegal? America loves legislating behavior in to crimes. And by crime, I mean something that could put a person in a jail, even for a day. Not picking up dog poop should no be a crime. Driving without a license should not be a crime. Walking in the street next to a sidewalk should not be a crime. Receiving a product to sell in a package and selling the contents individually should not be a crime. There are civil ways of dealing with issues. Zoning, Code Enforcement, Health Department, etc, can issue warning, fines, liens, etc. Don't use the police to incarcerate people for low level offenses that shouldn't be unlawful anyway.
Finally, stop using your police department as a one stop shop for all your life's problems.
Don't call the police because someone is finishing in your HOA pond.
Don't call the police because the ducks behind your house are too loud.
Don't call the police because your 7 and 9 year old are arguing over Pokemon cards.
Don't call the police because your 11 year old refuses to go to school.
Don't call the police because you found weed in your 14 year old's room.
Don't call the police because your ex is 15 minutes late bringing the kids back.
Don't call the police because someone shoplifted $2.49 earrings.
Don't call the police because your neighbor trimmed your tree over the property line.
Don't call the police because you saw a black male walking and you've never seen him in the neighborhood before.
Don't call the police because your neighbor has parked their car in the street for the last 3 weeks.
(FYI, every single one of these is a real call that I personally have responded to in my career).
In summary, Defund the Police? No. Don't Defund the Police. The Police are a necessary part of society that must exist to intervene in violent crimes, criminal investigations, traffic enforcement, etc. Stop Overburdening the Police. Stop relying on the police as your single point of contact with the government. Stop pretending like 36 weeks of training make a person an expert in criminal law, civil law, medical care, child care, adult care, social work, mental health, physician, counseling, accident reconstruction, and housing. Don't punish the police for being the dumping ground of every other agency, department, and administration that doesn't want to deal with something. Properly fund your entire government and your private social outreach organizations, Hold your tax exempt organizations responsible for their tax exempt status.
And in all seriousness, change the movement's title. Because there's some good concepts in there. But Defunding is going to turn off a lot of people before you can even explain.
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Not OP, but I found this great comment by a cop in the protect and serve subreddit of all places that really did a good job explaining "defunding": Defund the Police. Let's talk about it. But don't stop reading until its over because you might be surprised. Lets get 2 things out of the way. 1st, the phrase "Defund the Police" is the stupidest proposal ever. 2nd, I actually support the concept at its roots. Defund means to prevent from receive funding or to withdraw funds from. And I believe the term Defund the Police is intentionally inflammatory, divisive, and charged. It's meant to inspire confidence in extreme outliers that the officers will be fired left and right to open a new utopia. It's meant to bring fear to officers and departments that they will be rooted out and terminated. But that's not what it means, and its own title will hinder it's progress. Someone who has pull within this movement should immediately change the title to "Stop Overburdening the Police." Because truly, that's what they mean. When I started in 2004, if I met a person in crisis, a person with suicidal ideations, a person with a mental illness (diagnosed or not), I could at my discretion or their request drive them to the state mental hospital in downtown Phoenix. I would pull up to the front door and drop them off. The problem was dealt with by trained social service employees and medical clinicians. Transients could be directed to one of several shelters to receive food, a bed, supplies, or aid. But resources slowly, and quietly began getting shut down. It actually took me almost a year to realize that the state mental hospital didn't exist any more. Not only could it no longer be used as a resource for me....but the occupants that were housed there were released and trickled out on to the streets. Instead of defunding the police. Stop overburdening them. Support crisis intervention teams from your local hospital that are available 24 hours a day to respond out to calls for help. Understand that some programs like that currently exist. Most are underfunded, available intermittently, and almost all require officers to be dispatched with them. If there are no police, they will not go either. Police Officers receive (an anecdotal guess) 2 to 8 hours of crisis training per year, unless an individual officer elects or is directed to attend a 1 week class. Still no where near what a social worker does. Don't make police officers responsible for dealing with your community's mentally ill. Support homeless shelters, low income housing, multi family housing units, and other resources in your community. High housing costs, population density, unemployment, and the aforementioned mental health issues are causing an increase in homelessness and transients. Officers receive (an anecdotal guess) 0 hours per year training specifically on homeless issues. Some officers may seek out training or resources personally, as a matter of interested. Don't make police officers responsible for dealing with your community's homeless population. Support after school programs for kids, child care facilities, sports programs, park programs, and tutoring centers. Children raised in single parent households are usually at home by themselves after school.N Idle hands are the devil's playground. Without positive adult role models, positive activities, positive social interaction, and adult supervision, kids will engage in petty crimes, try smoking or drug use, flock to peers with strong (but sometimes unhealthy) personalities. Kids don't need to be introduced to the criminal justice system. They need to be raised responsibly and integrated in to society. Don't make police officers responsible for dealing with unsupervised kids in the community. Support self service centers at your court house. Custody exchanges, custody disputes, property disputes, landlord tenant issues, etc are not police issues. Attorneys go to school for 6 years or so. Officer get (on average) a 16 week academy and a 16 week field training program. Most of it focused on criminal law. Stop introducing people in to the criminal justice system when they need civil law assistance. Don't make officers responsible for applying criminal law to civil issues or for providing civil law advise to people. Support increased funding and training for Emergency Call Centers. 911 centers are the first line of discretion in an agency. Many centers receive a call for any request from a citizen and enter a call for service without question. Once that call is entered, an officer must respond. First off, call centers across the country are severely under funded, understaffed, overworked, and burned out. They are almost working on autopilot, for up to 16 hours per shift, days in a row. Demand higher pay for dispatchers, attract better candidates, hire qualified applicants, train them more, and fully staff the centers. Provide cal takers with basic civil and criminal law classes to allow them to filter out non police issues and direct citizens to the right service. In most locations, if you cal 911 (for other than a clear medical emergency) you will get the police. But the police are not always whats needed. Don't use the police as a catch all for any problem you have. Support evaluating and repealing stupid criminal statutes. Why was Eric Garner contacted in the first place? For selling Loosies (Loose, singe cigarettes). Why is that even illegal? America loves legislating behavior in to crimes. And by crime, I mean something that could put a person in a jail, even for a day. Not picking up dog poop should no be a crime. Driving without a license should not be a crime. Walking in the street next to a sidewalk should not be a crime. Receiving a product to sell in a package and selling the contents individually should not be a crime. There are civil ways of dealing with issues. Zoning, Code Enforcement, Health Department, etc, can issue warning, fines, liens, etc. Don't use the police to incarcerate people for low level offenses that shouldn't be unlawful anyway. Finally, stop using your police department as a one stop shop for all your life's problems. Don't call the police because someone is finishing in your HOA pond. Don't call the police because the ducks behind your house are too loud. Don't call the police because your 7 and 9 year old are arguing over Pokemon cards. Don't call the police because your 11 year old refuses to go to school. Don't call the police because you found weed in your 14 year old's room. Don't call the police because your ex is 15 minutes late bringing the kids back. Don't call the police because someone shoplifted 2.49 earrings. Don't call the police because your neighbor trimmed your tree over the property line. Don't call the police because you saw a black male walking and you've never seen him in the neighborhood before. Don't call the police because your neighbor has parked their car in the street for the last 3 weeks. (FYI, every single one of these is a real call that I personally have responded to in my career). In summary, Defund the Police? No. Don't Defund the Police. The Police are a necessary part of society that must exist to intervene in violent crimes, criminal investigations, traffic enforcement, etc. Stop Overburdening the Police. Stop relying on the police as your single point of contact with the government. Stop pretending like 36 weeks of training make a person an expert in criminal law, civil law, medical care, child care, adult care, social work, mental health, physician, counseling, accident reconstruction, and housing. Don't punish the police for being the dumping ground of every other agency, department, and administration that doesn't want to deal with something. Properly fund your entire government and your private social outreach organizations, Hold your tax exempt organizations responsible for their tax exempt status. And in all seriousness, change the movement's title. Because there's some good concepts in there. But Defunding is going to turn off a lot of people before you can even explain.
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I'd play it safe. It's a remake of Shawshank Redemption. Or maybe it's a reboot or a sequel. Anyway, Freeman is (still) Red and is again in prison; he is the wise old mentor. Pratt is a young lawyer that gets wrongfully accused and put in the same prison; he's still learning his ways and he gets several action scenes. Murray is a prison librarian and occasionally comic relief. They make a cunning plan and they all escape. They were helped by a selfless group of Chinese prisoners. I'd try to get Clancy Brown too because he's awesome, as a guard or whichever role he accepts. (Bonus payment for the screenwriter if he uses a medieval double sided sword at some point.) There is a decent musical sequence somewhere in the middle, by Adele or Rihanna or what the budget allows. There are a couple of scenes after the closing titles that hint there might be a sequel. The doctor in the prison is actually a robot, questioning what it really means to be human. But he doesn't know he is a robot; when it is revealed to him later, he becomes sad. But Pratt makes him happy again by telling him that it is important what kind of person you are, not what you are made of.
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I'd play it safe. It's a remake of Shawshank Redemption. Or maybe it's a reboot or a sequel. Anyway, Freeman is (still) Red and is again in prison; he is the wise old mentor. Pratt is a young lawyer that gets wrongfully accused and put in the same prison; he's still learning his ways and he gets several action scenes. Murray is a prison librarian and occasionally comic relief. They make a cunning plan and they all escape. They were helped by a selfless group of Chinese prisoners. I'd try to get Clancy Brown too because he's awesome, as a guard or whichever role he accepts. (Bonus payment for the screenwriter if he uses a medieval double sided sword at some point.) There is a decent musical sequence somewhere in the middle, by Adele or Rihanna or what the budget allows. There are a couple of scenes after the closing titles that hint there might be a sequel. The doctor in the prison is actually a robot, questioning what it really means to be human. But he doesn't know he is a robot; when it is revealed to him later, he becomes sad. But Pratt makes him happy again by telling him that it is important what kind of person you are, not what you are made of. amp;x200B;
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**The computer is not "reasoning". It's only giving the appearance of such by approximating what it has seen elsewhere.**
In humans we call this education. Or training. Or experience. Its taking something we have learned and applying it to different situations.
The AI stil takes the input it is receiving and on that it determines the most likely response. That the assessment can be incomplete because of lack of input is limited is something different.
Its not different from a person doing it? By your definition if I email my doctor with my symptoms of the flu and he concludes that I have the flu without seeing me, it would not qualify as an assessment. As he has not been able to physically see me? I would still consider that an assessment, even though the dataset is incomplete.
And again. Ive seen so many people jump to conclusions on just half of the story/input. Just like the AI does. Hell. That's half of Reddit for you..
Im not saying we should trust it blindly.. Thats something else all together
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The computer is not "reasoning". It's only giving the appearance of such by approximating what it has seen elsewhere. In humans we call this education. Or training. Or experience. Its taking something we have learned and applying it to different situations. The AI stil takes the input it is receiving and on that it determines the most likely response. That the assessment can be incomplete because of lack of input is limited is something different. Its not different from a person doing it? By your definition if I email my doctor with my symptoms of the flu and he concludes that I have the flu without seeing me, it would not qualify as an assessment. As he has not been able to physically see me? I would still consider that an assessment, even though the dataset is incomplete. And again. Ive seen so many people jump to conclusions on just half of the storyinput. Just like the AI does. Hell. That's half of Reddit for you.. Im not saying we should trust it blindly.. Thats something else all together
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Diagnostics is not just taking in data and taking out a reason. It's about noticing things and interacting with the patient, often interrogating them, to figure out what might be going on.
The notion that computers can do it much more easily than experienced docs is fallacious; how computers and how doctors would go about it are two different things. But computers are already huge in a wide number of different medical situations - measuring blood levels of certain chemicals, counting cells on slides, producing images.
Computers cannot access patients' minds. Yet.
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Diagnostics is not just taking in data and taking out a reason. It's about noticing things and interacting with the patient, often interrogating them, to figure out what might be going on. The notion that computers can do it much more easily than experienced docs is fallacious; how computers and how doctors would go about it are two different things. But computers are already huge in a wide number of different medical situations - measuring blood levels of certain chemicals, counting cells on slides, producing images. Computers cannot access patients' minds. Yet.
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You said an extra person comes in. That was my point. You keep arguing about something you keep increasingly have no idea about. I'm a physician. I've been on both sides of the clothe for c-sections, what you're saying is like arguing with someone that the world is flat. Nurses are not idiots. They are rockstars that are capable of doing multiple tasks. You seem to think the baby is in the bassinet and followed by one nurse, then moved to the parents (or maybe you don't even think babies get to be held by their parents in the OR, I don't even know at this point) and then a new nurse monitors the parents holding the baby and then that nurse leaves and a maybe a new nurse comes in to help with the transfer to back to the hospital room. I don't know. You're making zero practical sense. Nurses are not robots that are interchanged at a whim because you think they are. The OR is not some place that people just come and go for no reason because nurses are so specialized that they need a special nurse to watch a mother and father. It's so detached from reality, I just don't know how to continue this conversation. It's just absurd.
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You said an extra person comes in. That was my point. You keep arguing about something you keep increasingly have no idea about. I'm a physician. I've been on both sides of the clothe for c-sections, what you're saying is like arguing with someone that the world is flat. Nurses are not idiots. They are rockstars that are capable of doing multiple tasks. You seem to think the baby is in the bassinet and followed by one nurse, then moved to the parents (or maybe you don't even think babies get to be held by their parents in the OR, I don't even know at this point) and then a new nurse monitors the parents holding the baby and then that nurse leaves and a maybe a new nurse comes in to help with the transfer to back to the hospital room. I don't know. You're making zero practical sense. Nurses are not robots that are interchanged at a whim because you think they are. The OR is not some place that people just come and go for no reason because nurses are so specialized that they need a special nurse to watch a mother and father. It's so detached from reality, I just don't know how to continue this conversation. It's just absurd.
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My appointments were getting really rude when the infectious disease expert said it was all in my head and referred me to a psychiatrist, I sort of trusted that he knew every 'KNOWN' disease, and that I was just falling through the cracks in the medical system that all doctors believed in. The psychiatrist didn't know anything 'factual' about CFS either, so I was rude with him, I guess, for trying to accept me as a patient to begin with.
Yep, it's kind of a let down when you realize that there's no specific test for it. However, the lab results do actually come out weird when you are suppose to be really average, but you're touching bottom or top of several measurements.
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My appointments were getting really rude when the infectious disease expert said it was all in my head and referred me to a psychiatrist, I sort of trusted that he knew every 'KNOWN' disease, and that I was just falling through the cracks in the medical system that all doctors believed in. The psychiatrist didn't know anything 'factual' about CFS either, so I was rude with him, I guess, for trying to accept me as a patient to begin with. Yep, it's kind of a let down when you realize that there's no specific test for it. However, the lab results do actually come out weird when you are suppose to be really average, but you're touching bottom or top of several measurements.
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If you talking about the two doctors who said that lockdown was a bad decision and how people will end up with weaker immune systems after the quarantine ends etc then I wasn’t aware that their video was taken down but the stuff they were claiming comes under expert opinion and thats considered the weakest evidence in medical literature. Evidence was pointing against what they were claiming.
Anyway back to your question, while censorship is a thing online, if your message, agenda, claim etc is backed by authentic evidence, its not easily censored if at all. However if its something which can be misinterpreted or can be used to manipulate an average person then imo it should be censored or somehow regulated to ensure that only the people who have the adequate basic knowledge of the subject get to see it.
In short, ensure whatever your message is backed by evidence and show the evidence with the message
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If you talking about the two doctors who said that lockdown was a bad decision and how people will end up with weaker immune systems after the quarantine ends etc then I wasnt aware that their video was taken down but the stuff they were claiming comes under expert opinion and thats considered the weakest evidence in medical literature. Evidence was pointing against what they were claiming. Anyway back to your question, while censorship is a thing online, if your message, agenda, claim etc is backed by authentic evidence, its not easily censored if at all. However if its something which can be misinterpreted or can be used to manipulate an average person then imo it should be censored or somehow regulated to ensure that only the people who have the adequate basic knowledge of the subject get to see it. In short, ensure whatever your message is backed by evidence and show the evidence with the message
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Programming? No. I’m a software developer and I can tell you that we are in no way threatened by AI. Or to put it another way, we are no more threatened by it than a heart surgeon was by the invention of the internet.
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Programming? No. Im a software developer and I can tell you that we are in no way threatened by AI. Or to put it another way, we are no more threatened by it than a heart surgeon was by the invention of the internet.
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No complete Auto robot!!!! Nonononono. No we want Master Gardeners, on those controllers, if at all possible! Yeah? A proper robot please. .... :-) ..... with video feed, etc. ... We need a surgeon's robot? But mobile !!!!!! And ZOOM on that video camera yes we will need to check for the "GNATS" yes. Teeny Tiny Fly.
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No complete Auto robot!!!! Nonononono. No we want Master Gardeners, on those controllers, if at all possible! Yeah? A proper robot please. .... :-) ..... with video feed, etc. ... We need a surgeon's robot? But mobile !!!!!! And ZOOM on that video camera yes we will need to check for the "GNATS" yes. Teeny Tiny Fly.
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