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RisingStar
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I really love that it doesn't require any kind of phone number or anything to sign up. You can link it to your Twitter/DNS/GitHub/etc. but it isn't required to signup and use the service.
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moonsun1987
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I wonder if it is possible to automate this behavior... Like reply to comments that mention Java but use context clues to pick or craft the best reply. Machine learning? I'd love it if the bot used Python. 🤔
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eaztivh
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6roybatty6
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How exactly do you unit test firmware that runs on hardware you can't run a unit test framework on, and which can't be mocked in any sensible way?
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ebx5ldn
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0987654231
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I'm biased but if used well 1) The type system will detect more errors at compile time. 2) F# has type inference. 3) Type providers are really really nice 4) Everything is immutable by default but there's an easy escape hatch to make 5) Pattern matching There are good reasons to use a language like F# or OCaml and you will notice C# is slowly including more and more features from F#. That being said it's not exactly easy to get a bunch of devs to start using a brand new language.
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lord_braleigh
t2_79d7n
Money and job stability?
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ebx5mn3
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/r/programming/comments/a6opy6/thoughts_on_interviewing_at_big_tech_companies/ebx5mn3/
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fuckin_ziggurats
t2_cmam5
Well in that case I guess we can all agree that what makes the transition difficult is the shift in paradigm, not the syntax. Didn't mean to confuse anyone.
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eaztk83
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golgol12
t2_3ocqd
Don't you have unit tests run on the firmware? I'm not too familiar with how unit testing works, but I thought a catagory of unit tests are actively compiled and run on the target. Like you have a debug exe, a release exe, and a unit test exe.
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jl2352
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I think you've ignored the point I was making.
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eaztkl4
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shared_makes_it_real
t2_wvcqaot
Totally agree with this. Consistency is key. And there are strategies associated with being able to deliver consistency. One of the reasons I love micro services is because it allows me to get my own space. My services don't go down and when they behave in a way that people don't expect I've added the proper logging to give them an answer quickly. Do that for a year while churning out your 100 lines a day average and people will revisit their assumptions.
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1544982662
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ebx5vfv
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combinatorylogic
t2_iab4d
You mean, the lie you told? Yes, I did, why would I pay attention to obvious lies. There are tons of web-oriented libraries for many different Lisps. Even in the frontend, Clojurescript is quite viable.
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1543838483
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eaztnl7
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t5_2fwo
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Timbit42
t2_1tnz
Sometimes it seems like it does, but other times it doesn't seem to know. I often find articles with current dates on them but the content is obviously months or years old. It seems they are refreshing the dates to game Google's algorithms. I don't know whether their gaming works.
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ebx5w9t
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fuckin_ziggurats
t2_cmam5
Yes. Kotlin seems to be an attempt at displacing Java for something more modern and concise, but F# and C# are two different ways of doing things (OOP vs functional). So they're a lot more difficult to combine but still provide a decent argument for combining as each of them is good at solving different kinds of problems.
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eaztpa7
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GluteusCaesar
t2_2fr6zp3z
My current boss forbid me from writing unit tests on an rather important project. "No one else does it, so it'll just be confusing if someone else has to deal with your code." I'm currently considering other opportunities.
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ebx6112
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pdbatwork
t2_org6k
> Well in that case I guess we can all agree that what makes the transition difficult is the shift in paradigm, not the syntax. Yes :)
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1543838574
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eaztpnh
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t5_2fwo
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xxxdarrenxxx
t2_zx4bm
No, we 'literally' replaced them with microwaves, ovens and houses. Your comment is by definition 'figurative' ​
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ebx61ak
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/r/programming/comments/a6k3qb/how_shazam_works_audio_fingerprinting_and_indexing/ebx61ak/
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t5_2fwo
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masklinn
t2_d5sb
> I know your comment is hypothetical It's not. > if that happened it would defeat the point of null It would not. > AIUI, 'null' was created because nullpointers were so commonly erronous that it was easier to just explicitly say "don't use null, that way if you do we can assume you've made an error". Therefore, assuming all nullpointers are deliberate is basically just removing the concept of null. I've no idea what you're trying to express in this word salad. The C standard says that dereferencing a null pointer is UB. Period. So any dereferencing of a pointer is an assertion that a pointer is non-null, because the program would otherwise be illegal, and the compiler is free to propagate this assertion throughout the program, both forwards (everywhere) and backwards (until it encounters an explicit non-nullity check).
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1543838644
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eaztr7t
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/r/programming/comments/a2epsa/undefined_behavior_is_really_undefined/eaztr7t/
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t5_2fwo
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GluteusCaesar
t2_2fr6zp3z
Why not use CryEngine? I'm not a games guy, but generally curious what makes a choice of engine good or bad.
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ebx63m0
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t5_2fwo
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m50d
t2_6q02y
> In most definitions procedures are functions that do not return something. > Some languages call their functions procedures too, even if they return something. Haven't you contradicted yourself there? I'd say languages that talk about "procedures" expect a "procedure" to "do something" - that is, to have an effect beyond the procedure's return value (if any). Which is exactly the definition of an "impure function". It's true that some languages consider everything to be a "procedure", but the way I see it those languages have simply given up on having (pure) "functions" at all.
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eaztu18
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encyclopedist
t2_ok8do
From the article: > One aspect where Clang wins hands down is memory use during build.
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ebx64dy
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/r/programming/comments/a6o8uz/performance_comparison_of_firefox_64_built_with/ebx64dy/
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t5_2fwo
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combinatorylogic
t2_iab4d
How can you say that, when the Project Oberon report alone can outweight all of the shit available for Python? As for the commercialisation of education - well, that's the one thing that will eventually destroy the entire higher education system altogether.
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1543838792
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eaztukl
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1546362875
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t5_2fwo
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mirvnillith
t2_4qxu
I still have my need for tests (and the ”map” of how the domain model flows into the report model).
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ebx660u
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/r/programming/comments/a691r7/you_can_do_it_in_sql_stop_writing_extra_code_for/ebx660u/
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nijolas-wilson
t2_1321hp
This doesn't make any sense to me and I really don't understand the point of it at all.
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1543838905
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eaztx4g
t3_a2ml49
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/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eaztx4g/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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golgol12
t2_3ocqd
But you're missing the opportunity to put time bombs in your code. So that if someone starts modifying it without reading every bit of it, it'll do selective memory stomping. /s
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ebx67f9
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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Deif
t2_36e5f
Fine for a static website like a blog. Now do something interesting without a framework and see how far you get and compare the time spent to if you used a framework.
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1543838923
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eaztxk7
t3_a2ml49
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t5_2fwo
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michaelochurch
t2_4ocdf
You don't learn much in MBA school, but if you go to one of the top ones, you make connections, and in today's corrupt business environment, connections matter more than anything else. Harvard MBAs who make $500,000 per year are considered failures– because that's the career that's handed to you when you get the degree. To be considered successful you have to break into the millions. I don't want to romanticize that path. You'll probably end up in middle age miserable because your net contribution to the world has been negative... but at least you'll be able to retire. Whereas, if you take the software path, you're *also* going to be miserable in midlife because your net contribution to the world has been negative, but still have to work on pointless nonsense. That being said, non-elite MBAs don't do much for a person's career. It's the top 3–10 schools depending on whom one asks that set you up to take advantage of corrupt connections; in the rest, you're not running into the people who can cut deals.
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1544982899
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ebx686c
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/r/programming/comments/a6nfgh/things_nobody_told_me_about_being_a_software/ebx686c/
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t5_2fwo
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fuckin_ziggurats
t2_cmam5
He needs to write a bot to automatically shit on Java/Oracle/C#/MS. He'll save hours in free time per week.
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1543838975
False
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eaztyql
t3_a2ml49
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t1_eaztivh
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t5_2fwo
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dead10ck
t2_8it2g
Well no, you're not just talking about "having a GitHub account"—creating one only takes 5 mins. What you're talking about is writing code that's worth showing off in one's spare time. You're taking that spare time for granted. For example, I have a wife and a daughter; I have no time to write code outside of working hours. On top of that, even for the people with time to spare, not all of them *want* to spend their free time coding, because they do a lot of it at work already. And that doesn't make them "not passionate" or subpar. It means they have a healthy interest in things outside of programming. A big portion of the industry is dominated by young single men who live and breathe code. It's fine to be that way, but you can't assume everyone is like you, and you especially can't judge them for having a different life. That's why we're bringing up life circumstances.
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1544982906
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ebx68ku
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/r/programming/comments/a6nfgh/things_nobody_told_me_about_being_a_software/ebx68ku/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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zenolijo
t2_6cw5t
A huge drawback though is that it's only available for Java.
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1543839020
False
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eaztzpp
t3_a2b8u4
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t1_eawt878
/r/programming/comments/a2b8u4/flutter_on_desktop_a_real_competitor_to_electron/eaztzpp/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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selbstadt
t2_3xmdvyv
Oh! Thanks :)
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1544983014
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ebx6ecd
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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wllmsaccnt
t2_6j5x5
Wait Shevegen also hates Microsoft and C#. What exactly does shevegen like?
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1543839052
False
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eazu0hw
t3_a2ml49
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r/programming
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Kiylyou
t2_38xek
But y tho?
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1544983021
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ebx6eqt
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t3_a6qoc7
/r/programming/comments/a6qoc7/even_and_odd_with_coroutines/ebx6eqt/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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Johner1261
t2_b1dqu
Ruby.
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1543839294
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eazu660
t3_a2ml49
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t1_eazu0hw
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t5_2fwo
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CautiousSquare
t2_2oxudu46
"That so much of my work life would be subordinate to the choices of barely-clued-in VCs, and overwhelmed first-time founders with no industry experience." This mentality is so wrong but so prevalent. I admit, earlier in my career, I too thought that the non-engineers were stupid/clueless as well. But the truth is, there are different skills and areas of expertise required. We should recognize this. The truth is, you are subordinate to them because they have the ability to bring in millions of dollars (to pay your salary). Do you think you can bring in millions of dollars? Once you realize that work is not isolated coding but a bigger endeavor that requires money, processes, operations, etc., you will be humbled that code is not everything.
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ebx6f15
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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Phito41
t2_9p4tn
I love using native UI software. But I fucking hate developing them, it's such a pain in the ass that it's not worth the time and effort to me.
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1543839346
False
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eazu7du
t3_a2b8u4
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t1_eawxtg6
/r/programming/comments/a2b8u4/flutter_on_desktop_a_real_competitor_to_electron/eazu7du/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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GluteusCaesar
t2_2fr6zp3z
Oracle database having the nerve to continue existing. Ye Olde Java versions. NodeJS for everything, everywhere. Mongo Madness™ ca. 2015. Using C because "muh performance" when no one else on the team knows C and performance didn't even matter. Keeping around ancient servers because management doesn't understand that engineer time costs more than computer time. Etc, etc.
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1544983100
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ebx6iv2
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/r/programming/comments/a6nfgh/things_nobody_told_me_about_being_a_software/ebx6iv2/
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t5_2fwo
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simplethings1122
t2_b87xb
I heard some talking that Jet is hiring a crap ton of F# developers.
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1543839391
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eazu8hx
t3_a2ml49
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t1_eazosxa
/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eazu8hx/
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t5_2fwo
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Squared_fr
t2_ieduoq9
Seriously what the fuck is this constant complaining on every programming-related subreddit about CSS being hard? I don't want to sound like the "iamverysmart" guy but i really don't understand what's so fcking difficult about it. Also people calling markup "programming" is pissing me off.
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ebx6ka1
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zeroRepent
t2_3atq7
I think you hit the nail on the head. There has as far as I can tell been nothing presented regarding the language that would make it worth switching to.
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1543839459
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eazua2f
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t1_eawwcge
/r/programming/comments/a2b4n9/abner_coimbre_nasa_engineer_on_jai_language/eazua2f/
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t5_2fwo
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lolwutpear
t2_3h7nq
Thanks for the mirror!
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1544983180
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ebx6mx9
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t1_ebwzyph
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r/programming
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mrMalloc
t2_g19sy
The best tool for the job means. What it tell you. If the device got special needs then you cater to its needs. If your groups skill set is vs a certain domain then you cater it. If the testers and backenders use same language it’s a bonus when it comes to the ramp-down/handover phase. I have had to work with a As3 in a project just because on that device it was almost 5x as fast rendering then html5. (Old tv box). Not because AS3 is better in anyway then html5 but the device limited us to that.
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1543839483
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eazuan1
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annexi-strayline
t2_opgl37x
> My point is that it is a bad, over-constructed example that shoudln't have been used. You're welcome to your opinion, but the example is based on likely scenarios, not all possible scenarios. It is based on what appears to have happened in the original goto fail code. But despite all of that, the point does not rely on that. The point is not that Ada excludes all errors, the point is that Ada is very good at catching these kind of common small errors automatically. The point is that you cannot simply rely on coding standards, reviews, and testing, because those rely too much on humans not making mistakes. The point was that Ada was designed from the beginning to recognize: 1. Programming is a human activity 2. Humans can be reliably expected to make mistakes, full stop.
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ebx6oiu
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/r/programming/comments/a5ylm8/should_have_used_ada_1_how_some_famous/ebx6oiu/
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3
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
fuckin_ziggurats
t2_cmam5
F# actually is one of the highest paying programming languages. Problem is the availability of jobs is very location dependent so there's no point in learning it if no one's hiring nearby.
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0
1543839516
False
0
eazubf3
t3_a2ml49
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t1_eazu8hx
/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eazubf3/
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6
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
gyroda
t2_90y5r
I'm sorry, I hadn't realised that sexism was solved and was never an issue for anyone. Thanks for the correction.
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1544983242
False
0
ebx6q0r
t3_a6nfgh
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t1_ebx3zyb
/r/programming/comments/a6nfgh/things_nobody_told_me_about_being_a_software/ebx6q0r/
1547689330
-8
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
CptCmdrAwesome
t2_de7m1
"Sorry, this 3 month project is 18 months behind schedule because we all went off on a spiritual quest and wrote our own TCP stack"
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1543839606
False
0
eazudm0
t3_a2ml49
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t1_eazrjg7
/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eazudm0/
1546363111
10
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
sky5walk
t2_a171k
Fortran made the list, but not C?! Hashing and compression only in addendum? EDIT: Forgot about LLVM! Universal language development.
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1544988580
0
ebx6rip
t3_a6nwf0
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t3_a6nwf0
/r/programming/comments/a6nwf0/the_most_important_software_innovations/ebx6rip/
1547689349
0
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
wllmsaccnt
t2_6j5x5
Maybe he's talking about the environment setup and not the project. Getting an [asp.net](https://asp.net) core host up and running behind IIS as a reverse proxy with a CI/CD hook isn't hard, but it can be time consuming and a couple steps are not very intuitive (e.g. what .net core runtime do you select, and everything about web deploy). It's probably one of the reasons free tier Azure App Services are popular, because you can have a [asp.net](https://asp.net) core prototype with HTTPS and CI/CD setup in minutes.
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1543839837
False
0
eazuj8m
t3_a2ml49
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t1_eazpeqk
/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eazuj8m/
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1
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
nanacoma
t2_1l4n32g2
I got you. Was just kidding around.
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0
1544983298
False
0
ebx6sv3
t3_a66f6u
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t1_ebwlmy8
/r/programming/comments/a66f6u/uncle_bob_sjwjs/ebx6sv3/
1547689365
2
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
null
False
Exallium
t2_5hmnj
Waiting till composition
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0
1543839905
False
0
eazukxz
t3_a2npyw
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t3_a2npyw
/r/programming/comments/a2npyw/what_makes_a_function_pure/eazukxz/
1546363229
1
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
countlictor
t2_4nlaw
I also work in games; there's a lot of misconceptions and fear around unit tests and it often gets passed off as impossible (it makes it hard to cut corners and write spaghetti code). Creating a cultural and archetectural shift towards using automated tests is really fucking hard, and takes a long time. I'm driving and supporting our shift at the moment; about a year in with at least another year to go, and should really be my full time focus.
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1544983316
False
0
ebx6tst
t3_a6nfgh
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t1_ebwov2z
/r/programming/comments/a6nfgh/things_nobody_told_me_about_being_a_software/ebx6tst/
1547689377
18
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
null
False
SeerUD
t2_a10e2
Going "frameworkless" doesn't have to mean not using libraries or third-party code though. A lot of Go developers for instance don't use frameworks, and generally the community favours composing libraries that fulfil the roles you need them to works better, leaving you to just write some basic glue code (i.e. your wiring usually). This works with Go because the community has been built this way, and thanks to the standard library actually being good, and providing useful interfaces, it means that libraries don't have to invent their own ways of doing things (and generally, the ones that do aren't as good, and aren't used). Obviously, there are some languages where this won't work though because maybe there isn't much of a standard library, or the community has been around longer and is built on a different philosophy. I think React is another pretty good example of this. React is _not_ a framework. It takes adding in quite a few more libraries alongside React for it to have the same features as a normal framework. This isn't a bad thing here either though, it gives you a great deal of flexibility and control over what you're building. It is normally at the expense of added complexity upfront, but it can easily pay itself off in how you're able to leverage the benefits of this approach later on.
null
0
1543840217
False
0
eazusnd
t3_a2ml49
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t1_eaznskh
/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eazusnd/
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22
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
6roybatty6
t2_72s1x
You can't do that on most hardware. Even if you did, it wouldn't be possible to meaningfully test anything, since the unit test has no way of knowing that the hardware's doing anything useful.
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0
1544983367
False
0
ebx6wet
t3_a6nfgh
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t1_ebx5rqm
/r/programming/comments/a6nfgh/things_nobody_told_me_about_being_a_software/ebx6wet/
1547689409
10
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
renrutal
t2_6nt9z
Languages can also be used to filter people in a hiring process. JS and Java can be good if you need to cut costs by hiring from a massive pool of juniors. Closure is a good choice if you want to build a team of excellent developers, as they have a tendency to study the most unusual stuff to continually further their growth.
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1543840290
False
0
eazuufx
t3_a2ml49
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t1_eazohha
/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eazuufx/
1546363346
-1
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
PsionSquared
t2_99130
>The argument you made in the JDK about it being unprofessional is merely a symptom of your prolonged exposure to IBM; it's very similar to Azkaban in that regard. Holy fuck, read another book
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1544983376
False
0
ebx6wug
t3_a6i85m
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t1_ebvq5bp
/r/programming/comments/a6i85m/openjdk_bug_report_complains_source_code_has_too/ebx6wug/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
wllmsaccnt
t2_6j5x5
The only reason I've found to use different languages / stacks is if my team is developing something for a third party and they have developers experienced in another stack than the ones we use in-house. The stack that is our in-house default has good performance and an expressive language and our team has a combined 45 years of experience in it (for a 5 person team). There is a cost to context switching across stacks on each project, especially if your team is supporting the results in production.
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1543840354
False
0
eazuw3g
t3_a2ml49
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t1_eazmy8s
/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eazuw3g/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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MrZarq
t2_4k5da
I don't know, man. Signal processing is a notoriously difficult subject. Definitely not something every programmer is smart enough for. I know I failed it.
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0
ebx6wvy
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/r/programming/comments/a6k3qb/how_shazam_works_audio_fingerprinting_and_indexing/ebx6wvy/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
Rinecamo
t2_bq0em
So what?
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False
0
eazuwc4
t3_a2nmun
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t3_a2nmun
/r/programming/comments/a2nmun/armenian_based_web_development_startup_company/eazuwc4/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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TiberiusIX
t2_ycsv4
Agreed. Maybe it's one of those 'love it or hate it' type things, since I've never found CSS difficult either. It does exactly what I want it to do, in the way I expect it to do it. _shrugs_.
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1544983388
False
0
ebx6xgn
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t1_ebx6ka1
/r/programming/comments/a6nfgh/things_nobody_told_me_about_being_a_software/ebx6xgn/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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aradil
t2_r02u
PHP is the right tool when someone says “Make me a wordpress site”. I’m not going to go and make the site from scratch in springmvc.
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1543840565
False
0
eazv1hy
t3_a2ml49
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t1_eazsbeq
/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eazv1hy/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
annexi-strayline
t2_opgl37x
I can't help but think there is a large ego component. If you can no longer get accolades for being a genius by writing ever more obscure and convoluted code, the truth of mediocrity would come out. I think the idea that Ada improves readability and enforces discipline scares many programmers who are are too reliant on their own superiority complex. That's my controversial opinion.
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1544983413
False
0
ebx6yqv
t3_a5ylm8
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t1_ebut869
/r/programming/comments/a5ylm8/should_have_used_ada_1_how_some_famous/ebx6yqv/
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3
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
strongdoctor
t2_6wjjn
Saving money is, IMHO, identical to choosing the right tools. If you choose the wrong tool it will be more costly in the long run, depending on the project ofc.
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1543840650
False
0
eazv3o8
t3_a2ml49
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t1_eazsj0d
/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eazv3o8/
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1
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
michaelochurch
t2_4ocdf
I'm curious where you work because from my perspective, the Agile Scrum nonsense has infested 95+ percent of the software jobs. It doesn't really matter if those jobs seem to pay well, because the whole purpose of that nonsense is to replace actual smart people with rent-a-coders... so wages will go down, hours and working conditions will get worse, and advancement will be impossible. I'd love to be able to find one of those R&D type jobs where you work on whatever you want and your employer sees itself more as a sponsor than a taskmaster, but I think that era is over.
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1544983455
False
0
ebx70xy
t3_a6nfgh
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t1_ebx4fmc
/r/programming/comments/a6nfgh/things_nobody_told_me_about_being_a_software/ebx70xy/
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7
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
aradil
t2_r02u
I wrote a web server in Java with raw sockets in my first job. It was a learning experience but the software was garbage.
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1543840664
False
0
eazv41r
t3_a2ml49
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t1_eazoae6
/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eazv41r/
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33
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
Norrius
t2_8ckdg
>There should be an auto way of doing that. Mutation testing?
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1544983540
False
0
ebx75b3
t3_a6nfgh
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t1_ebwz1x5
/r/programming/comments/a6nfgh/things_nobody_told_me_about_being_a_software/ebx75b3/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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Rinecamo
t2_bq0em
> I would like to say that Google Charts are for those who use Windows OS and D3.js are for those who use Linux/Unix OS. > > P.S. I love Ubuntu. Lovely. ​ >A Data Scientist's Review I don't see that title reflected inside the article. This could be summarized in one sentence: "Google Charts is easy too use with a limited amount of Charts and D3.js is more complex with (way) more room for custimization".
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1543840708
False
0
eazv586
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t3_a2ni7p
/r/programming/comments/a2ni7p/d3js_vs_google_charts_a_data_scientists_review/eazv586/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
Lucretia9
t2_8iwe5
Nice :)
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1544983563
False
0
ebx76i0
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t1_ebx6yqv
/r/programming/comments/a5ylm8/should_have_used_ada_1_how_some_famous/ebx76i0/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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holyknight00
t2_hiu8h
It's a ok for a sideproject, but i tried both approaches for long time and thanks but no, i won't program frameworkless unless i have a very specific reason. You should aim for a light and general purpose framework and it would do the job fine most of the times. The most common error is to begin a simple project with a completely bloated framework.
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False
0
eazv5uq
t3_a2ml49
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t3_a2ml49
/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eazv5uq/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
frostbyte650
t2_1rjzhopu
Site went down, misconfigured db
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1544983752
False
0
ebx7g7n
t3_a6k3qb
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t3_a6k3qb
/r/programming/comments/a6k3qb/how_shazam_works_audio_fingerprinting_and_indexing/ebx7g7n/
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5
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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TizardPaperclip
t2_13xs8h1h
If we didn't reinvent the wheel every once in a while, we wouldn't have helicopters, or rockets.
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1543840736
False
0
eazv5yo
t3_a2ml49
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t1_eazo9hd
/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eazv5yo/
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39
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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DrMonkeyLove
t2_313gu
Holy shit dude, do you have any posts in your history with positive karma or are you just a troll trying to piss people off?
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1544983786
False
0
ebx7hyw
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t1_ebwyw8g
/r/programming/comments/a6nfgh/things_nobody_told_me_about_being_a_software/ebx7hyw/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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alot_the_murdered
t2_1v2vjcx8
And I can easily schedule that on my smartphone, without my employer knowing any details.
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1543840748
False
0
eazv69z
t3_a2eskq
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t1_eazk7u8
/r/programming/comments/a2eskq/why_itunes_downloads_dont_use_https/eazv69z/
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4
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
ineffective_topos
t2_2nd1rf5j
Nice course but I don't think you're going to get random people to look through an entire course...
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1544983806
False
0
ebx7j23
t3_a6j7gm
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t3_a6j7gm
/r/programming/comments/a6j7gm/constructive_logic/ebx7j23/
1547689690
2
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
wllmsaccnt
t2_6j5x5
To play devils advocate, using PHP might be the right tool if you are building something for a third party to interface with, and they only have PHP developers, or if you are building a plugin or library for a system that is written in PHP. Or if you wanted to create a scripting system for your site and you wanted something that would be easy to learn and popular, even at the expense of other advantages. Otherwise...I'm not sure. The "use the right language for the job" phrase seems like advice that is only practical for job-based contractors or people who are working on prototypes and small projects made by a team of one. For developers who work in-house, on teams, or who help support production systems...it seems much more practical to specialize in one or two stacks.
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1543840799
False
0
eazv7n2
t3_a2ml49
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t1_eazsgyy
/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eazv7n2/
1546363508
2
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
v3rminator
t2_2lcli42h
Agree, it's because people don't understand the basics of css. They just copy shit until something looks good.
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1544983813
False
0
ebx7jdz
t3_a6nfgh
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t1_ebx6ka1
/r/programming/comments/a6nfgh/things_nobody_told_me_about_being_a_software/ebx7jdz/
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9
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
Cannabis_Detoxed
t2_2442yry5
It's not hyperbole. There is an old lisp phrase that im going to misquote. "Lisp is really simple and easy to learn. Unless you know Java, then it's impossible." Any lisper knows the pain im talking about. It is not hyperbolic to say that Python has ruined what could have been great developers. It has. It's taught them that they are required to think within dogmatic limits set arbitrarily by someone else if they want to get things done. Its taught then that things are special which absolutely arent. Inventing syntax for things which should just be function calls, making much of the built in code impossible to compose for no reason. Its taught them that things are magic. Fuck python.
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1543840856
False
0
eazv94b
t3_a2hpd8
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t1_eazm6li
/r/programming/comments/a2hpd8/is_lisp_a_good_language_to_start_learning_as_a/eazv94b/
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1
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
Mamoulian
t2_6wagt
That looks interesting, thanks. http://pitest.org
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0
1544983878
False
0
ebx7mpk
t3_a6nfgh
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t1_ebx75b3
/r/programming/comments/a6nfgh/things_nobody_told_me_about_being_a_software/ebx7mpk/
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1
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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atakomu
t2_d7c4g
I have the same problem, since challenge is opened on midnight. But after I have seen [time leaderboard](https://adventofcode.com/2018/leaderboard/day/1) on which 100th person which would get 1 point solved both challenges in 5 minutes I have seen I have no chance to get on leaderboard anyway so I'm doing it just for fun.
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1543840998
False
0
eazvcx9
t3_a2damo
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t1_eaykgd4
/r/programming/comments/a2damo/advent_of_code_2018_is_live_one_coding_challenge/eazvcx9/
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1
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
rlbond86
t2_436ic
It's math. Obviously not all programmers take advanced mathematics but I think a lot are capable of learning it. Even if it's unfamiliar to many, at least a cursory knowledge of the Fourier Transform/FFT should be on the radar of most programmers. In many ways it's one if the key algorithms in all of computing history.
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1544983888
False
0
ebx7n9s
t3_a6k3qb
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t1_ebx6wvy
/r/programming/comments/a6k3qb/how_shazam_works_audio_fingerprinting_and_indexing/ebx7n9s/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
nutrecht
t2_dlu5l
It works for Go because it's not a language that supports extendibility very well (no OO support at all, no exceptions, no method overloading). It's not a strength, it's a weakness.
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1543841027
False
0
eazvdr0
t3_a2ml49
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t1_eazusnd
/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eazvdr0/
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7
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
gebrial
t2_iudz7
Literally means figurative too though. Get with the times Gramps
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1544983923
False
0
ebx7oxo
t3_a6k3qb
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t1_ebx61ak
/r/programming/comments/a6k3qb/how_shazam_works_audio_fingerprinting_and_indexing/ebx7oxo/
1547689762
-1
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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philipwhiuk
t2_78ppe
It depends what you mean by 'learn'.
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1543841196
False
0
eazvia5
t3_a2ml49
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t1_eazoz9y
/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eazvia5/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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ReverseEngineered
t2_5kktp
There's a big difference between differing skill sets and being subordinate. Yes, the dev alone likely can't bring in millions of dollars. But neither can the VC. They need to work together to produce something valuable. It's completely reasonable for a VC to say, "This is what the customer wants." It's also completely reasonable for the dev to say, "This is what we are capable of producing." A dev alone will often make a functional tool that nobody else wants. A VC alone will sell an idea that nobody can actually build.
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1544983953
False
0
ebx7qhp
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/r/programming/comments/a6nfgh/things_nobody_told_me_about_being_a_software/ebx7qhp/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
utnapistim
t2_3e9w
My team and me (primary C++ devs) were asked to revive a dead software project because there are a few customers who still use the hardware (that uses this software). This _zombification_ was for the purpose of bug fixing and adding a few new features. When we looked at the source code it turned out some features and setup scripts depended on Ruby (because it was the _hot new thing_ 10-15 years ago, when the project was still alive so some devs decided it was the thing to add to a C++ project). Because we have no ruby devs, the two realistic choices were for the company to hire some, or for the one-month zombification process to be extended to six months, with some of us becoming proficient in Ruby. In the end, the zombie project remained dead. May the bit-rot recycle all its bits and bytes!
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eazvidm
t3_a2ml49
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t5_2fwo
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masterofmisc
t2_dqd35
Well that sucks.. Sounds like they wasn't keeping up with the times and didn't like or understand some of the new concepts you was introducing.
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ebx7tg3
t3_a6nfgh
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t5_2fwo
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wllmsaccnt
t2_6j5x5
It would be kind of fun to build up a mythos and memes about our ever productive troll. Being a rubiest almost gives him a tragic edge.
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1543841225
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eazvj45
t3_a2ml49
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/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eazvj45/
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t5_2fwo
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TheSeaISail
t2_15tko6
You're reading an awful lot into what I said. You're acting like I think every programmer needs to have twenty projects with 10k loc each if I'm to take them seriously. It's not that difficult to have one or two small repos that demonstrate your coding style. I know some people like to leave their work at the office and that's fine but if you've been in the industry for years and can't show a single solitary thing you've ever written that wasn't for work then that would be a slight alarm bell for me.
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ebx7u22
t3_a6nfgh
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t5_2fwo
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tzjmetron
t2_13hwdxno
Good old Turbo C++.
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1543841247
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eazvjow
t3_a2m3hj
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t3_a2m3hj
/r/programming/comments/a2m3hj/original_sources_of_ultimate_tapan_kaikki_90s/eazvjow/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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ILikeTheBlueRoom
t2_g4upk
k
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ebx7veg
t3_a6nfgh
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/r/programming/comments/a6nfgh/things_nobody_told_me_about_being_a_software/ebx7veg/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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philipwhiuk
t2_78ppe
That moment where the bot exists but it's written in Java :P
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eazvjx5
t3_a2ml49
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t1_eaztivh
/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eazvjx5/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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ShetlandJames
t2_61emd
Been working a year with 2 startups and our Travis CI triggers two dummy JS tests to pass. What are tests? Baby don't hurt me
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ebx7we6
t3_a6nfgh
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t1_ebwov2z
/r/programming/comments/a6nfgh/things_nobody_told_me_about_being_a_software/ebx7we6/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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ShardPhoenix
t2_35wsp
Source of Doom: https://github.com/id-Software/DOOM
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False
0
eazvkdq
t3_a2m3hj
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/r/programming/comments/a2m3hj/original_sources_of_ultimate_tapan_kaikki_90s/eazvkdq/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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ShetlandJames
t2_61emd
I learned it for my current job and I love it! Genuinely haven't come across anything that made me dislike it so far
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1544984120
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0
ebx7ywl
t3_a6nfgh
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/r/programming/comments/a6nfgh/things_nobody_told_me_about_being_a_software/ebx7ywl/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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Venetax
t2_3s4ygc
The article talks about PHP with the usage of some useful composer packages (i.e. FastRoute, phpdotenv etc.). You can create "something interesting" without a full-stack framework just fine. To be specific, I do it daily. I've found for myself, that most of the things a fullstack framework offers me are just unnecessary abstractions I don't usually require that just make me fight the framework more than it has a use for me.
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eazvlqn
t3_a2ml49
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/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eazvlqn/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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tgaz
t2_79hgb
Yepp. Can be summed up as "all code sucks."
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ebx80ee
t3_a6nfgh
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t1_ebwgvnf
/r/programming/comments/a6nfgh/things_nobody_told_me_about_being_a_software/ebx80ee/
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t5_2fwo
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philipwhiuk
t2_78ppe
> It was purely a learning exercise project that stayed live Ah the worst possible type of project.
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False
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eazvlwz
t3_a2ml49
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/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eazvlwz/
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t5_2fwo
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s-expression
t2_yeqrf
> smaller, more specialized libraries. Like is-odd and is-even?
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ebx80jp
t3_a5zjwu
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t1_ebrgit8
/r/programming/comments/a5zjwu/bootstrap_340_released/ebx80jp/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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philipwhiuk
t2_78ppe
> We are going to create more material on how to work effectively without frameworks and we are gathering all the material that we find on this awesome list So you've created a framework?
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False
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eazvn42
t3_a2ml49
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t1_eazr132
/r/programming/comments/a2ml49/going_frameworkless_why_you_should_try_web_dev/eazvn42/
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t5_2fwo
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Decker108
t2_6cpnt
There's a good saying from the excellent book "Soul of a new machine" that goes: "Not everything worth doing is worth doing well." I tend to bring it up when colleagues start talking about perfection.
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ebx80rs
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/r/programming/comments/a6nfgh/things_nobody_told_me_about_being_a_software/ebx80rs/
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t5_2fwo
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philipwhiuk
t2_78ppe
hipster coding.
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eazvnqx
t3_a2ml49
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t5_2fwo
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lanzaio
t2_zlgp0
Pay, work-life balance, competency of coworkers, interesting projects, benefits, freedom.
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ebx81ro
t3_a6opy6
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/r/programming/comments/a6opy6/thoughts_on_interviewing_at_big_tech_companies/ebx81ro/
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t5_2fwo
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