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null | mickael_andrieu | null | Can you send me a link please? I don't know about this tool at all this sound really interesting! | null | 0 | 1492695592 | False | 0 | dgiiq96 | t3_66ggum | null | null | t1_dgihp4q | null | 1494228527 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | woztzy | null | [Haskell does.](https://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/2p9cvz/noob_question_what_is_exactly_side_effect/cmutt5u/) A pure function is a function with no side effects. (Side effects are distinct from *effects*.)
Other functional languages also make it easy to compose deferred side effects, and with discipline it's po... | null | 0 | 1492695648 | 1492696290 | 0 | dgiirtu | t3_6631x8 | null | null | t1_dgh3qcc | null | 1494228548 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | sirin3 | null | That is why they are students? To learn enough for the job? They would not need to be students if they already could do the job | null | 1 | 1492695748 | False | 0 | dgiiun6 | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t3_66hpqs | null | 1494228589 | -9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | ekdaemon | null | > the "developer was not sure if thing is an error or not so they put warning"
This is the worst, it's so common for applications to spew and complete fill logs with WARN messages - which makes it near impossible to tell if an ACTUAL new problem has occurred or not.
One of the things I always harped on with junior... | null | 0 | 1492695805 | False | 0 | dgiiw9i | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgii3qb | null | 1494228612 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | EtherCJ | null | I think you are illustrating one of the major problems with logging. Audience.
Developers think the logs are for them and so appropriate debugging. Prod support people think it's for them and so everything in the logs needs to be a message to alert them to an issue. | null | 0 | 1492695817 | False | 0 | dgiiwm1 | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgia85j | null | 1494228616 | 11 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | TunaBoo | null | I almost always INFO in production.
The most performance critical code I wrote used a custom logging framework to lower the perf impact, and logged INFO to ramdisk.. but we still kept INFO around. | null | 0 | 1492695845 | False | 0 | dgiixem | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgideil | null | 1494228629 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | lordcirth | null | Thanks for this! These applications, like the cache server you mention - did you write them, or are they 3rd-party? Do you have any tips for implementing this system based on 3rd-party logs/errors? | null | 0 | 1492695924 | False | 0 | dgiizrw | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgiieom | null | 1494228660 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | combinatorylogic | null | As if it's any different from the quality of intake of all those former polytechs (now proudly "universities"). | null | 0 | 1492695991 | False | 0 | dgij1mn | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t3_66hpqs | null | 1494228688 | -18 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | HeimrArnadalr | null | Science has decreed it so! | null | 0 | 1492696010 | False | 0 | dgij26b | t3_66brav | null | null | t1_dgi20t1 | null | 1494228697 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | CurtainDog | null | > Library authors can't predict what processes you are going to layer onto them.
Right, but the correct response is for the library code to avoid side effects altogether, which is infinitely preferable to relying on some ill-specified, implicit contract between the two of you. | null | 0 | 1492696167 | False | 0 | dgij6k9 | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgi99nn | null | 1494228761 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | FallingIdiot | null | This is a lot like what's been implemented in the latest C# version. | null | 0 | 1492696249 | False | 0 | dgij8w2 | t3_66gn8p | null | null | t3_66gn8p | null | 1494228796 | 16 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | webauteur | null | [DSSTNE](https://github.com/amznlabs/amazon-dsstne)
I was sort of joking, but you can definitely play around with open source artificial intelligence frameworks and it is the future of all non-trivial automation. Right now I'm learning the basics of machine learning using C# and some tutorials at Visual Studio Magazin... | null | 0 | 1492696275 | False | 0 | dgij9ms | t3_66ggum | null | null | t1_dgiiq96 | null | 1494228805 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Kilgort | null | hmm, if I will find time I will prepare this for you | null | 0 | 1492696333 | False | 0 | dgijbcv | t3_66d84j | null | null | t1_dgih2xg | null | 1494228831 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | MCShoveled | null | "Do I want to wake up in the middle of the night to investigate this, or can it wait until tomorrow morning?"
Yeah, I'd be making nothing but Warning messages by that criteria.
I kinda prefer the standard definition of the message levels. | null | 0 | 1492696492 | False | 0 | dgijg3h | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t3_66ftqf | null | 1494228898 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | prdktr | null | Spring is the only constant that fuels Java development for now 14 years, keeping a strong adherence to innovation and modern practices. It's no surprise they are evolving now as the reactive space is entering its last maturation phase since Oracle, Pivotal, Lightbend, Netflix and others agreed on a standard.
What's i... | null | 0 | 1492696502 | False | 0 | dgijge9 | t3_65rdta | null | null | t3_65rdta | null | 1494228903 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | fromscalatohaskell | null | Between majors yes. But actually 11-12 didn't break much afaik, since its about java8 compatibility | null | 0 | 1492696593 | False | 0 | dgijj1y | t3_66935j | null | null | t1_dgihvrm | null | 1494228939 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | idanh | null | `instanceof` is one use case. See Scala [Pattern Matching](http://docs.scala-lang.org/tutorials/tour/pattern-matching.html) & [Case Classes](http://docs.scala-lang.org/tutorials/tour/case-classes.html) to get a better grasp of why this is useful. | null | 0 | 1492696651 | False | 0 | dgijkmy | t3_66gn8p | null | null | t1_dgihg2z | null | 1494228962 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | CurtainDog | null | Good grief, how is this down voted? The peeps in this thread need to pull their heads out of ... \*ahem\*... the sand. | null | 0 | 1492696692 | False | 0 | dgijlud | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgice0y | null | 1494228979 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | TheEaterOfNames | null | Someone please do this to the tune of up all night to get lucky. | null | 0 | 1492696715 | False | 0 | dgijmij | t3_66ah7w | null | null | t1_dggzanv | null | 1494228987 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | depricatedzero | null | >>I took a lower paying job
>I wouldn't be bragging about that. Dunno about you, but I work for money. It's just business.
The conclusion is based on what you chose to contextomize out of what you quoted: "between two offers because the company interviewed better." Implying that the $5,000 I walked away fr... | null | 0 | 1492696738 | False | 0 | dgijn6p | t3_65vch4 | null | null | t1_dgh5z2z | null | 1494228996 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | w2qw | null | The trouble is there are generally a lot of cases where the application logging the response doesn't know if it's an error or not. An example might be a 404 error in an application may be a problem with application however it could easily just have been someone modifying the browser url. I would generally agree though ... | null | 0 | 1492696765 | False | 0 | dgijnzb | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgiiw9i | null | 1494229007 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | AbstractLogic | null | I make my logs informative to both parties. That is why I log the Severity, Friendly Message (support staff), Exception Message (dev staff), Stack Trace, Variables at time of issue. time.
If an exception happens in production I want my support team to know what to do and to have enough information at hand to help th... | null | 0 | 1492696794 | False | 0 | dgijotj | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgiiwm1 | null | 1494229018 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | qzrt | null | It really doesn't matter what the specific comment was. Even if that one comment didn't, there's thousands of comments. They don't need "they", it's ambiguous, and as you said find a better way to phrase it, which there is. | null | 0 | 1492696802 | False | 0 | dgijp10 | t3_666zn5 | null | null | t1_dgi9fl5 | null | 1494229021 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | jringstad | null | > And last, but not least, we got more sleep: the number of ERROR logs was reduced to 0, not because nobody could be bothered to type “wakeMeInTheMiddleOfTheNight”, but because this service was an offline, non-critical one, so any issue could wait for the next day.
This might be true now... But what if this service... | null | 0 | 1492696875 | False | 0 | dgijr3j | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t3_66ftqf | null | 1494229049 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | AndrewPardoe | null | Thanks, I didn't realize that. I've not done .NET for a bit. | null | 0 | 1492696999 | False | 0 | dgijupe | t3_66d84j | null | null | t1_dgiidmv | null | 1494229096 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | dudeNumberFour | null | Loose Coupling: I've always disagreed with this. You have all the same dependencies plus one more; the DI framework. These problems are mostly worked out and I was working with a bad DI system, but in the past the dependency on the DI framework has made testing impossible (yes, it was impossible), and also made shar... | null | 0 | 1492697046 | False | 0 | dgijw2x | t3_66hm9l | null | null | t3_66hm9l | null | 1494229116 | -7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | CurtainDog | null | > Finally, it's not up to the application to decide whether it's "critical"/"production" or not. That should be determined from your log aggregation service.
I'm curious as to why/how the log aggregation service knows better than the application - surely this information must exist *somewhere*, why have it separate... | null | 0 | 1492697067 | False | 0 | dgijwpl | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgigu4s | null | 1494229124 | 35 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | sabas123 | null | >Finally, it's not up to the application to decide whether it's "critical"/"production" or not. That should be determined from your log aggregation service. Production service alerts/emergencies should wake up the on-call person, anything non-critical should not.
How should the aggregation service know when its cri... | null | 0 | 1492697069 | False | 0 | dgijwrv | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgigu4s | null | 1494229125 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | steve_b | null | So they did - I missed that.
I would suppose, then, that the late-night spike for Haskell corresponds more to people learning/using Haskell as a hobby (as others have pointed out), since the relatively long interval of the dip (from 5pm - 9pm) seems too long for just taking a break to eat dinner - more likely it's the... | null | 0 | 1492697141 | False | 0 | dgijyuz | t3_66ah7w | null | null | t1_dgi8bxi | null | 1494229153 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | anacrolix | null | That's a many coloured bike shed you have. | null | 0 | 1492697173 | False | 0 | dgijzrp | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t3_66ftqf | null | 1494229165 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | mickael_andrieu | null | Wow! sounds like really complicated for my actual needs, but I think you're right, the future is about automation and machine learning! | null | 0 | 1492697253 | False | 0 | dgik2ay | t3_66ggum | null | null | t1_dgij9ms | null | 1494229200 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | java_576 | null | And in an ideal world that is great but often times we must use external libraries which don't have perfect design
| null | 0 | 1492697305 | False | 0 | dgik3s9 | t3_66gnib | null | null | t1_dgii0ft | null | 1494229220 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Morwenn | null | But empty base class optimization D: | null | 0 | 1492697356 | False | 0 | dgik5bv | t3_66gnib | null | null | t1_dgifib8 | null | 1494229241 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | java_576 | null | Here is an example of a [rest template](https://docs.spring.io/spring/docs/current/javadoc-api/org/springframework/web/client/RestTemplate.html) and no things have not gone badly wrong. | null | 0 | 1492697368 | False | 0 | dgik5nw | t3_66gnib | null | null | t1_dgiili5 | null | 1494229246 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | iGalaxy_ | null | /r/dataisbeautiful | null | 0 | 1492697401 | False | 0 | dgik6lp | t3_66ah7w | null | null | t3_66ah7w | null | 1494229259 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | depricatedzero | null | > You don't even know my type. I've got several degrees in science and engineering, have patents and publications on my CV. My type can (and should) demand a premium.
Sounds like I hit the nail right between the eyes, then.
> Your use of greed is appropriate in terms of optimization. I see business as an optimi... | null | 0 | 1492697406 | False | 0 | dgik6ra | t3_65vch4 | null | null | t1_dgh5wv6 | null | 1494229261 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | oxysoft | null | It's nice seeing Dart in /r/programming. Too bad I had to stop reading after 1 minute because the article is infested with unfunny shitty image macro memes. | null | 0 | 1492697441 | False | 0 | dgik7sl | t3_66filu | null | null | t3_66filu | null | 1494229274 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | staticassert | null | Did you only read the first few examples? Check out the destructuring examples.
String formatted = exprswitch (anObject) {
case Point(0, 0) -> "at origin";
case Point(0, var y) -> "on x axis";
case Point(var x, 0) -> "on y axis";
case Point(var x, var y) -> String.format... | null | 0 | 1492697460 | False | 0 | dgik8bl | t3_66gn8p | null | null | t1_dgihg2z | null | 1494229282 | 22 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | nfrankel | null | You can design your code with DI in mind and *not* use a DI framework at all. That's how I introduce it at university. | null | 0 | 1492697544 | False | 0 | dgikaw3 | t3_66hm9l | null | null | t1_dgijw2x | null | 1494229318 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | darthcoder | null | > Variables at time of issue. time.
This is perhaps my biggest problem with exception handling in general. People just dump stack traces, but no context about the inputs that led to that - you needed to have DEBUG turned on.
Fuck debug. I use debug only when I can't be assed to fire up the debugger. If an ex... | null | 0 | 1492697614 | False | 0 | dgikd1b | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgijotj | null | 1494229349 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | andrewingram | null | In the context of a call stack, it can be impossible to assess whether an issue is worth waking someone up. A request failed? That's not good, but we expect it from time-to-time, so you can't assume it's an emergency. 10% of requests are failing? That's a big problem, someone will need to look at it right now.
The sev... | null | 0 | 1492697646 | False | 0 | dgike06 | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgijwpl | null | 1494229365 | 102 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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null | Gotebe | null | Haha, true, but see [my other post](https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/66ftqf/logging_levels_the_wrong_abstraction/dgideil/) about why the changes are mixing the concerns. | null | 0 | 1492697701 | False | 0 | dgikfm2 | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgih0k1 | null | 1494229387 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | webauteur | null | Yeah, it is really complicated and way over my head. But you still have to understand the basics to grasp the big changes that are coming. For example, the reason why companies like Amazon, Google, Facebook, etc want so much of our data is so they can run it through neural networks and create recommendation engines and... | null | 0 | 1492697725 | False | 0 | dgikgaw | t3_66ggum | null | null | t1_dgik2ay | null | 1494229396 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | kyru | null | Being involved in the hiring process for a small company several years ago this sounds about right to me. We would give applicants a programming test they had two hours to complete on an internet connected computer and the ones who did the worst were almost always Indian. So many times after 2 hours they had not writ... | null | 0 | 1492697773 | False | 0 | dgikhrp | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t3_66hpqs | null | 1494229417 | 95 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Marlamin89 | null | That explains a lot. | null | 0 | 1492697892 | False | 0 | dgiklg7 | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t3_66hpqs | null | 1494229469 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | wavemode | null | I would note that it does support F# on regular .NET, but for the cross-platform .NET Core it only supports C#. So as others have mentioned, it is indeed a professional F# IDE, but not for cross-platform. | null | 0 | 1492698015 | False | 0 | dgikp91 | t3_66d84j | null | null | t1_dgijupe | null | 1494229521 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | tobascodagama | null | I think the implication is that you should be using a monitoring tool like Xabbix or Nagios to read the aggregated logs and trigger an alert procedure if a certain truly production-critical error occurs. (There might be some log aggregation tools that include this feature natively?) | null | 0 | 1492698029 | False | 0 | dgikpoz | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgijwpl | null | 1494229527 | 12 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | dungone | null | I don't understand why this has to be so complicated. Logs should be for developers. If someone else needs a different kind of system (reports, alerts, etc), they should use an appropriate tool for that. | null | 0 | 1492698195 | False | 0 | dgikuw4 | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgiiwm1 | null | 1494229605 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | OneWingedShark | null | > Stop trying to shill to users.
I've been involved in some applications where [IMO] SPARK would have been appropriate -- in particular one dealing with medical and insurance records, after all, in that case you're handling things that could literally kill someone or leave them destitute. | null | 0 | 1492698305 | False | 0 | dgiky7a | t3_66edrp | null | null | t1_dgiib4x | null | 1494229650 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | JohnYu88 | null | That link to the study within the article leads to yet another article with the same infos and no link to any further infos at all.
Now i could look up that Aspiring something study myself, but somehow my gut tells me that it's not worth it, that either the way the info was collected will be shit AND the interpretatio... | null | 0 | 1492698385 | False | 0 | dgil0px | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t3_66hpqs | null | 1494229684 | 23 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Zeno84 | null | That's truly amazing. It's reasonable to assume that at least 5% of the population has the raw mental ability to be a software developer, let alone 5% of engineering students.
These universities are doing a terrible job. I've heard that cheating is rampant at Indian universities, so maybe that's playing a role | null | 0 | 1492698392 | False | 0 | dgil0ys | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t3_66hpqs | null | 1494229687 | 45 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | m50d | null | That's a very unusual - misleading even - use of the word "template" (I assumed you meant something more like JDBCTemplate). If you use it statefully (by using things like its message converters) then things have indeed gone badly wrong (you've got invisible coupling, noncompositional code and all that); the part you c... | null | 0 | 1492698423 | False | 0 | dgil1xd | t3_66gnib | null | null | t1_dgik5nw | null | 1494229701 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | dordzhiev | null | WAT?! | null | 0 | 1492698437 | False | 0 | dgil2bg | t3_66ah7w | null | null | t1_dgi9kfb | null | 1494229706 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | NotMyArray | null | It means when they are done with school or very near done and applying for jobs. | null | 0 | 1492698452 | False | 0 | dgil2sg | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t1_dgiiun6 | null | 1494229712 | 14 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | dungone | null | You write a query and give it some criteria. For example, if a process crashes more than 3 times in 15 minutes, or fails to start after 3 attempts. You can't do any of that by setting a logging severity level on a single log entry, anyway. | null | 0 | 1492698468 | False | 0 | dgil39a | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgijwrv | null | 1494229718 | 15 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Gotebe | null | It's obviously the question of balance: how much time and disk space you want to give to logging versus how important is it to track the problem down. A good approach is to crank up when you know you have a problem, not before (IMO).
On a related note, the good error information is extremely important for that first t... | null | 0 | 1492698479 | False | 0 | dgil3kp | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgihm8b | null | 1494229722 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | svgwrk | null | Let me just get this out of the way: my understanding is that the proportion of CS grads from US colleges is not wonderfully high, and I wonder how this compares. I also wonder how much of that lack of employability among US students is related to how much cheaper an offshore team is...
But this clearly demonstrates t... | null | 1 | 1492698525 | False | 0 | dgil4zt | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t3_66hpqs | null | 1494229740 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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null | [deleted] | null | It's not about types it's about way more than that , basically almost any branching could be a candidate (obv used resonably) | null | 0 | 1492698547 | False | 0 | dgil5nw | t3_66gn8p | null | null | t1_dgihg2z | null | 1494229750 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | OneWingedShark | null | > It would have been beneficial if mention was made of the licences. Ada, and maybe SPARK, has a very abstruse license.
The language proper doesn't have licenses, implementations do.
That said, there ***is*** work on a MIT-license compiler [here](https://github.com/OneWingedShark/Byron). | null | 0 | 1492698551 | False | 0 | dgil5ru | t3_66edrp | null | null | t1_dgib5g8 | null | 1494229751 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | kubr0t0 | null | Who owns the service?
If the you own the service, the service can provide an interface which indicates the service's external requirements, and a third party (such as a REST client) merely fulfills those requirements.
The REST client can then either directly implement the interface, or the REST client is invoked thro... | null | 0 | 1492698566 | 1492698915 | 0 | dgil68b | t3_66gnib | null | null | t1_dgihh51 | null | 1494229757 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | agent-plaid | null | I grouped our systems into production and dev, then set up alerting on the production logs. It will send email in 10 minutes for production service errors, and daily for production warnings. (The service is papertrail, and it's working well for us.) | null | 0 | 1492698609 | False | 0 | dgil7j6 | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgijwrv | null | 1494229774 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Hrtzy | null | I found [something (pdf warning)](http://www.aspiringminds.in/docs/national_employability_study_IT_aspiringminds.pdf) that looks like the same study from 2010, that says the students were in their final year. | null | 0 | 1492698618 | False | 0 | dgil7u5 | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t1_dgiiun6 | null | 1494229779 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1492698736 | False | 0 | dgilbil | t3_66ah7w | null | null | t3_66ah7w | null | 1494229828 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | arajparaj | null | I heard he is kind of a Dick | null | 0 | 1492698797 | False | 0 | dgilde9 | t3_66d3px | null | null | t1_dgi6bx6 | null | 1494229853 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | TheEternal21 | null | > the dependency on the DI framework has made testing impossible
No offense, but you are doing it wrong. | null | 0 | 1492698825 | False | 0 | dgileav | t3_66hm9l | null | null | t1_dgijw2x | null | 1494229866 | 18 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | csjerk | null | To be fair, I'm not sure that's significantly different in the US. This was a couple years back, but you could get a full Computer Science degree without really having to code much at all. You could literally come out of a 4 year program having literally not touched a compiler in 3 years.
It's not exactly a failing of... | null | 0 | 1492698900 | False | 0 | dgilgql | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t3_66hpqs | null | 1494229898 | 434 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | m50d | null | Don't declare badly-designed classes as `final` :P.
More constructively, declare your classes with value semantics as `final` (but be sure they really do have value behaviour - a good way to tell is to make sure you can use them in your own tests), declare your interfaces non-final, and declare your implementations of... | null | 0 | 1492698955 | False | 0 | dgilih5 | t3_66gnib | null | null | t1_dgik3s9 | null | 1494229921 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | jpfed | null | >The problem as I see it is that n! is the number of permutations of n distinct items, whereas the elements of a value of type Xn (i.e. an n-tuple of Xs) need not be distinct.
That's a great point!
>The Two Dualities of Computation: Negative and Fractional Types
I see how this is supposed to work, though it lo... | null | 0 | 1492698986 | 1492700720 | 0 | dgiljga | t3_66ckn8 | null | null | t1_dgibq6d | null | 1494229934 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | pieps | null | To be fair, Haskell folks are beings of pure energy, and therefore also can't tie shoes. | null | 0 | 1492699105 | False | 0 | dgiln6r | t3_66ah7w | null | null | t1_dgi3ilw | null | 1494229984 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Raknarg | null | > the industry isn't looking for Computer Scientists, it's looking for Software Engineers.
That's becoming less true all the time. | null | 0 | 1492699136 | False | 0 | dgilo7n | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t1_dgilgql | null | 1494229997 | -29 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | WrongAndBeligerent | null | This is the nonsense excuse students give for not being able to program. | null | 0 | 1492699149 | False | 0 | dgilolj | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t1_dgiiun6 | null | 1494230002 | 14 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Raknarg | null | Does Rust allow for something analogous to C struct typecasting? | null | 0 | 1492699229 | False | 0 | dgilr3l | t3_66gnib | null | null | t1_dgifib8 | null | 1494230037 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | dungone | null | Failing to recognize excellence and tolerating mediocrity are just two ways of looking at the same exact problem. They just imply a different kind of solution.
What you just described is an organization that attempts to punish mediocrity but is incapable of recognizing excellence. Managers *love it* when you tell the... | null | 0 | 1492699295 | False | 0 | dgiltat | t3_66brav | null | null | t1_dgi3uvg | null | 1494230066 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Eirenarch | null | Even some of the examples are the same (the expression evaluator). However not everything in this document has been implemented in C# 7.0. The proposal for C# was split and the advanced part was left for a future version (deconstruction in pattern matching for example) | null | 0 | 1492699307 | False | 0 | dgiltop | t3_66gn8p | null | null | t1_dgij8w2 | null | 1494230071 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | AbstractLogic | null | Tell me what user the process is running under (so I can check their permissions) and where the fuck I'm trying to write the file to!
With that information my OPS team can go in and add Write permissions to the folder location for my user and I never even need to know the problem popped up!
CONTEXT IS KEY!
*Preac... | null | 0 | 1492699325 | False | 0 | dgilu8k | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgikd1b | null | 1494230080 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | friendlysoviet | null | > So many times after 2 hours they had not written any code at all.
So these people tried to get a programming job without knowing how to program? What sort of mental state would you have to do this? Jeeze. | null | 0 | 1492699368 | False | 0 | dgilvmw | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t1_dgikhrp | null | 1494230098 | 61 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | doom_Oo7 | null | How is it different to make the exact same thing in a different language ? | null | 0 | 1492699446 | False | 0 | dgily53 | t3_66gn8p | null | null | t1_dgihg2z | null | 1494230131 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Eirenarch | null | > This feature is going to encourage poorly written Java.
Another way to look at it is that Java encourages poorly written functional programs :)
Also this has nothing to do with duck typing and is entirely statically typed as are languages like OCaml, F#, Haskell, Scala and most recently C#
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null | kubr0t0 | null | Depends on how you design the classes and how you are using AOP.
If you are doing CGLIB-based AOP, which relies on dynamically created subclasses, then you'll have a problem with final classes. If you're doing AspectJ-based AOP, which relies on class rewriting using bytecode injection, then you won't have a problem wi... | null | 0 | 1492699506 | False | 0 | dgim00y | t3_66gnib | null | null | t1_dgih11c | null | 1494230157 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | bloody-albatross | null | And it's still last in supported features: http://caniuse.com/
But credit where credit is due: HTML5 D'n'D and AJAX both came from IE. Though the standard versions have additional features which IE lacked for a long time (or where only implemented in Edge). | null | 0 | 1492699521 | False | 0 | dgim0je | t3_66d6g1 | null | null | t1_dgidwh3 | null | 1494230163 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Qluxzz | null | Fake it 'til you make it | null | 0 | 1492699569 | False | 0 | dgim23b | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t1_dgilvmw | null | 1494230184 | 92 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | AbstractLogic | null | It's a mix. Most businesses just need business developers who can use the language's standard library set in order to get data from a UI, process data a little, save data to a DB, send data to 3rd party, get data from 3rd party.
Of course all those websites/business tiers usually rely on heavy lifting backend API onl... | null | 0 | 1492699571 | False | 0 | dgim25m | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t1_dgilo7n | null | 1494230184 | 27 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | gauauu | null | > Who is the one up all night writing assembly?
My hobby is writing games for old video game consoles (ie Atari, NES) Mostly, that involves staying up late writing assembly. So....yeah :) | null | 0 | 1492699595 | False | 0 | dgim2xh | t3_66ah7w | null | null | t1_dghsw5z | null | 1494230195 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Sloshy42 | null | VSCode definitely helps a lot and I would recommend it as well. I've used it for the majority of the project when I was developing it. Webstorm is also really nice and arguably a little better for larger apps. That said the type of suggestions I'd get from the IDE greatly improved once I swapped out JS for TS. The IDE ... | null | 0 | 1492699603 | False | 0 | dgim36a | t3_66d6w5 | null | null | t1_dgi5c6r | null | 1494230198 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Raknarg | null | Right, so then you would agree that saying
> the industry isn't looking for Computer Scientists
is incorrect.
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null | Llebac | null | Cool article. I've been toying with the idea of learning Rust for a long time, looks like I'll have another language on my backlog now. | null | 0 | 1492699650 | False | 0 | dgim4nx | t3_66edrp | null | null | t3_66edrp | null | 1494230218 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | AbstractLogic | null | Yes, I was agreeing with you while adding additional insights from my own experience. | null | 0 | 1492699687 | False | 0 | dgim5us | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t1_dgim4ce | null | 1494230235 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Guy1524 | null | 5%? I'd say if u don't have a disability, then u can program | null | 0 | 1492699697 | False | 0 | dgim67s | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t1_dgil0ys | null | 1494230240 | 55 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Raknarg | null | Just clarifying due to initial downvotes | null | 0 | 1492699721 | False | 0 | dgim6zj | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t1_dgim5us | null | 1494230250 | -5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1492699737 | False | 0 | dgim7h8 | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t1_dgilgql | null | 1494230256 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | DO U PROGRAM? BEACUSE IT SEEMS LIKE NO | null | 1 | 1492699742 | False | 0 | dgim7nb | t3_66gn8p | null | null | t1_dgihg2z | null | 1494230258 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | AbstractLogic | null | People are asinine. They probably agreed with my comment and immediately assumed it was a contradiction to yours since who comments without arguing these days?
Cesspool of ignorance. | null | 0 | 1492699862 | False | 0 | dgimbij | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t1_dgim6zj | null | 1494230310 | -15 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Meguli | null | Well, I am also sold on practicality of those things. The examples are quite readable for someone knowing both lisp and c. And they are clearing up a lot of heavily used tasks. There seems to be no cryptic syntax introduced and it seems rather nice to use. Only minus thing would be, I guess, having another preprocessor... | null | 0 | 1492699910 | False | 0 | dgimd22 | t3_66gj40 | null | null | t1_dgibzvu | null | 1494230331 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | to3m | null | I love the photo. What a great combination of galley layout, sterile artificial lighting, and patrolling wardens. Is this what work at one of those consulting bodyshops is like? | null | 0 | 1492699910 | False | 0 | dgimd2n | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t3_66hpqs | null | 1494230332 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | samishal | null | I wish I could down vote you more than once. | null | 0 | 1492699959 | False | 0 | dgimep5 | t3_66hpqs | null | null | t1_dgij1mn | null | 1494230353 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | carlfish | null | From a functional perspective, logging is a side-effect. So you have a choice between (a) pretending logging isn't really happening and your functions are "pure except for the logging bits", or (b) representing the logging in a functionally pure way.
If you go with (b), anything that might log is a function that retu... | null | 0 | 1492700083 | 1492701670 | 0 | dgimiuf | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgiaknp | null | 1494230408 | 12 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | I_really_just_cant | null | Exactly, and at least the question is raised so it can be examined rather than just dumping log messages without regard to the resources it will consume. | null | 0 | 1492700097 | False | 0 | dgimjan | t3_66ftqf | null | null | t1_dgibwpy | null | 1494230414 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | OneWingedShark | null | > **On "what sets them apart"**
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> Can someone explain the utility of undefined constraints? Is this just the concept of newtypes, i.e nominal typing? If so, they are not a Sp... | null | 0 | 1492700130 | False | 0 | dgimkc5 | t3_66edrp | null | null | t1_dgihui2 | null | 1494230428 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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