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SabashChandraBose
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2002. I had finally gotten an admit into a US university with tuition waived. I had also landed a job with some eCom IT company. But life had fucked me over, and I had to clear an arrear after the 8th sem exams. So my life hung in balance. Either I would clear the paper and pick between US or a local job, or lose both...
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dgj8s8j
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jwnwilson
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I'd like to share my limited experience with developers from India, it was interesting but our company originated from India and started hiring western engineers to take over as there were a few problems on our team. One large problem was the culture, they tended to be really bad at saying "I don't know how to do this...
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1492724092
False
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dgj8sh3
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videomorphic
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I've seen many adults argue. They were all software engineers, and they argue like children. I've never seen two people argue that weren't married and weren't software engineers.
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1492724103
False
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dgj8sub
t3_66brav
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1494241246
-1
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dcoolidge
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Google has ruined me by making it easy to look up syntax for various languages...
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1492724156
False
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dgj8uk8
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qwertyegg
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not surprised. This probably applies to almost any country by the way.
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dgj8ulc
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LucasThePatator
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I thought CS was more on the theoretical side of things. But what do I know :)
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dgj8ur8
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staticassert
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Too bad it's all years and years away :\ I hope I won't be writing Java professionally by the time it becomes a language I'd actually want to use.
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crowbahr
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I doubt that only 5-10% of candidates coming from American universities make that cut. I've worked with bad outsourced development. I will say that I've never worked with a good Indian team, but that's more likely because the CEO wasn't willing to pay for quality teams... but those teams put out some of the most ins...
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1492724178
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Holbrad
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Currently in University studying computer science. I'd safely say that the majority of students cannot handle programming even at a basic level (Still struggle with the idea of classes and objects) Look at the tiny number of students who go on placement years for Computer Science, most candidates can't handle simple i...
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dgj8v8h
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Mechakoopa
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Our consulting engineer copied my ~~whiteboard vomit~~ pseudo code I put up in a meeting to prove a point as verbatim then got mad at me when he got back to his desk and it didn't compile. Some people are weird like that.
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dgj8weh
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JshWright
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And therein lies the problem... A lot of CS grads can explain various aspects of theory, but they can't actually independently write code.
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carlfish
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I think the whole "`Reader` is a substitute for dependency injection" thing came out of an unfortunate interaction of OO (mostly Java) developers who couldn't understand how you can code without DI, and FP developers who didn't understand what it was. At first glance it's understandable. There's no appreciable differe...
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1492724235
False
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dgj8x2k
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grauenwolf
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You think wages are depressed now? Wait to see what happens when they start sending our jobs overseas so that they can hire the best without restrictions.
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1492724268
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dgj8y4i
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7
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..Is not the same thing
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1492724278
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dgj8yft
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1494241321
8
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staticassert
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Power and simplicity are not fundamentally at odds. I also hope we do not limit ourselves to what people understand as powerful - the blub paradox is a dangerous thing.
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1492724327
False
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dgj8zzh
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PuffTheDankAssDragon
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You should understand the tools you are using though.
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1492724345
False
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dgj90jf
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videomorphic
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That's an excellent point. I'm surprised I've never seen that pointed out in this context before.
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Neophyte-
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I use visual studio code which has great intellisense for all js libraries I've tried so far. I'm sure others like atom and webstorm offer something just as good
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1492724405
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dgj92fu
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LtAramaki
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Implement Fizz-Buzz in JavaScript using only [these characters](http://www.jsfuck.com/): ()[]!+
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1492724502
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dgj95e9
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201
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LucasThePatator
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I have to say, I went to an engineering school in France (It's a bit different than in other countries...). Programming was not the primary focus of many specialties and most people that did not specialize in programming weren't able to program at all. They had other valuable skills however. Those who did specialize in...
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1492724521
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subnero
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*walks out the door*
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1492724567
False
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dgj97fv
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120
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nochangelinghere
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stop
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1492724603
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dgj98ic
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subnero
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You hired this guy?
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1492724617
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dgj98zm
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grauenwolf
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A lot of people get degrees that they never use. And a lot of people are self-taught without degrees. That said, I've encountered plenty of "professionals" who only functioned by copying existing code and changing things at random until it worked. They literally have no idea how anything works, but they can recognize ...
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1492724641
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11
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Izwe
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I understand perfectly what a date formatting function does, but damned if I can remember if MM is minutes or months. You can understand plenty without remembering every little detail.
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dgj99ws
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81
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phire
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Same. The *"60% can't even write code that compiles"* line sticks out to me. Gives the impression of a written test that was marked super strictly.
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1492724660
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dgj9ad9
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85
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1492724709
False
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dgj9bx7
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prepend
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Why did you want to clear the screen? Was that part of the problem?
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1492724726
False
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dgj9cej
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11
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SabashChandraBose
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Old habit.
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1492724756
False
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dgj9de1
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1494241535
-9
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subnero
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This is my experience to a T. They're incapable of making their own decisions without management approval. They're also incapable of admitting they don't know something, so they pretend like they understand everything, and then nothing gets accomplished. They're also "yes men" about everything.
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1492724763
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dgj9dkh
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WolvesCallum
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10 minutes on stack overflow and you can find this out...
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dgj9drk
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grauenwolf
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There are plenty of API gateway packages that do that without any programming. It may even be built into your load balancer.
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myreddituser
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Matches my experience.
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1492724782
False
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dgj9e5h
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hiemanshu
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Username checks out.
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1492724786
False
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dgj9e9f
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Mechakoopa
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Wasn't my call. He's a smart guy, but he was hired on more as an architect to document a legacy system and provide a framework for migration than for his raw programming skills.
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dgj9emx
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setuid_w00t
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> Finally, when dealing with the unexpected, it never hurts to check whether the server you're running on has been rebooted recently enough: > > $ uptime 13:16:41 up 300 days, 9:21, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > > Three hundred days is way too long. Is this really true? Why would the uptime...
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coloroftheskye
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What that makes 0 sense. If I have a machine that can create knives 3000x as good and 50x as fast as I can why would I EVER create knives myself. Waste of time.
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diggcanburninhell
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Great comment. If you wouldn't mind answering a couple related questions, what kind of industry do you work in? What kind of roles, as specific as possible, do you see outsourced?
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shamen_uk
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Err no chap, that would be a "Software Engineering" degree: http://www.manchester.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/courses/2017/05125/bsc-software-engineering/course-details/#course-profile Computer Science is the most popular degree, but it is meant to be a theoretical academic discipline. Naturally, at bachelor/taught mast...
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pplcs
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Sorry, but that's a terrible analogy
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False
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dgj9g9r
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Dementati
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It's probably not years.
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False
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dgj9gok
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1494241579
31
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swan--ronson
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So which specific technologies have you used for IoT?
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False
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1
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TheYokai
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Oh ok yeah, that makes sense. How did I not get it the first time?
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evaned
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> lambda The documentation isn't good enough to say, but I strongly suspect they're pretty darn weak lambdas; in particular, it looks like they're not actually closures.
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False
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biocomputation
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The technology to do this has been around for the better part of 2 decades. There are many reasons why it still hasn't happened, and I'll discuss a few. Laws are different overseas, and American tech companies want the protection that comes with having their operation in America ( intellectual property laws, property ...
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9
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grauenwolf
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1gb of data? Hell, that's within the capacity of MS Access.
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1492724938
False
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5
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ibtokin
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Now let's talk about CS grads in the US...
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False
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PuffTheDankAssDragon
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Yeah, you shouldn't have the every line memorized, but know it enough to be able to understand how it works.
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1492724975
False
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WiseHalmon
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Not at all.
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1492724982
False
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dgj9kb7
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alexmace
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I didn't say 95% are like that in the U.K., just at least 5%
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1492725013
False
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CJKay93
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I took CS at a London university and you should probably believe the guy you're replying to. I got a 2:1 but there were people with 1sts that couldn't write an application to save their life because they stuck to everything-but-programming. Most people just can't seem to handle even the basics.
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LtAramaki
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It hasn't ruined you, because we have computers and they have Intellisense. If we didn't have computers, you wouldn't need to program in the first place. I hated this shit in school. "But I have a calculator right now, it's in my hands. It has a battery that will last longer than I have to live, and when it runs out o...
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False
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24
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MarshallBanana
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It is at the same time under- and overpowered, which makes it kind of uninteresting.
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dgj9now
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dreugeworst
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No no, OP was saying that more than 5 percent did that, not 95 percent
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1492725095
False
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LucasThePatator
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I'm ready to admit 10/15% tbh. But the majority ? That would be a massive scandal and very detrimental to the UK economy. Something would have been done.
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i_tried_butt_fuck_it
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Indian here. I'm not denying that many Indian SE's are just bad but you may want to take this report with a pinch of salt. The report is from a company called [Aspiring Minds](http://www.aspiringminds.com/). Their business is to conduct aptitude tests and then match you to companies based on how well you do in those te...
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xbshe
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Angry typing is a thing.
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LucasThePatator
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I'm not familiar with that notation so I didn't understand. As I said, I can believe that.
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False
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grauenwolf
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Your argument is meritless. For the last 2 decades H1B visas met that they didn't need to consider off-shoring their high end development work. And no one benefits from petty tribalism and arbitrary borders drawn on maps.
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jk147
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I work with all Indian devs now, onshore and offshore. It varies heavily on which company you work with, the no surprise part is that.. the ones we pay more are better. Now they are introducing a new group from Europe, I got to say.. these guys are much better than their other H1B counterparts.
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UnfriendlySoloutions
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boiii you're not a real programmer until you do it in 1's and 0's only
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1492725367
False
0
dgj9w6l
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgj95e9
null
1494241788
38
t5_2fwo
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angomangorangotango
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It's funny because he's dumb as hell.
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1
1492725372
False
0
dgj9wc9
t3_66kb3c
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t1_dgj9e9f
null
1494241790
-1
t5_2fwo
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FuzzyLitchi
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_probably_...
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0
1492725420
False
0
dgj9xsn
t3_66kb3c
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null
t1_dgj9gok
null
1494241811
35
t5_2fwo
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HCrikki
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Under whose criteria? And does it rank their individual skill, or ability to work as a team? Getting things done ranks higher than simply replicating a western/top company's practices. Leveraging assistive tools like input completion and autocorrective build scripts is not cheating.
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0
1492725421
False
0
dgj9xtz
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t3_66kb3c
null
1494241812
1
t5_2fwo
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alexmace
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Plenty of Universities teach "Computer Science" but cover very little CS. e.g. I can recall maybe 1 module that I'd describe at pure CS: Mathematics of Program Construction. Perhaps you could included Introduction to Database Design and Cryptography in there. The rest... Modules on programming in LaTeX, Perl, C++, Gra...
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0
1492725421
False
0
dgj9xua
t3_66kb3c
null
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t1_dgj9g7h
null
1494241812
2
t5_2fwo
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grauenwolf
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Real time sensor data from bombers for the US Navy. Warehouse robots for a grocery distributor.
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0
1492725442
False
0
dgj9yg4
t3_66d6w5
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null
t1_dgj9gyk
null
1494241819
1
t5_2fwo
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dead-dove-do-not-eat
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They don't actually get the job.
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0
1492725454
False
0
dgj9yte
t3_66kb3c
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t1_dgj8s33
null
1494241824
4
t5_2fwo
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pakoito
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Not exactly the same thing, yet it can be used for the same things.
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1
1492725474
False
0
dgj9zek
t3_66gn8p
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t1_dgj8yft
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1494241833
1
t5_2fwo
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swan--ronson
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Fuck, the former sounds awesome. Which languages did you use?
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0
1492725488
False
0
dgj9ztf
t3_66d6w5
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null
t1_dgj9yg4
null
1494241838
1
t5_2fwo
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emberyfox
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Tools are more important than process. As long as you know the basics and are smart enough to use logic and reasoning, you'll be set. As you said, computers are there for a reason. Hell, I'd argue that pen and paper is exactly the same as it's a tool used to get information out of our heads, or work out problems that ...
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1
1492725518
False
0
dgja0oz
t3_66kb3c
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null
t1_dgj9mb7
null
1494241850
0
t5_2fwo
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m0haine
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Judging by most of the candidates I see in interviews, I believe it. Given the language of their choice, they often can't get a working fizz buzz without assistance. Can't count how many times I've seen them type it out from memory and not be able to even talk the logic though when there is a small typo.
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0
1492725525
False
0
dgja0x4
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgj7ksh
null
1494241854
2
t5_2fwo
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dead-dove-do-not-eat
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Depends on the country.
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0
1492725568
False
0
dgja2a9
t3_66kb3c
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null
t1_dgj8g8p
null
1494241871
1
t5_2fwo
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sadistmushroom
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I think this would actually be easier
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0
1492725596
False
0
dgja341
t3_66kb3c
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null
t1_dgj9w6l
null
1494241884
108
t5_2fwo
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alexmace
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Oh it's ok, we just hoover up all the good graduates from the EU to do the engineering , while our graduates go into graduate schemes at big companies to become change consultants. Oh wait, we *are* fucked
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0
1492725610
False
0
dgja3ka
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgj9p13
null
1494241890
1
t5_2fwo
null
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snickerbockers
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You lost me at the javascript part.
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0
1492725617
False
0
dgja3rq
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgj95e9
null
1494241892
18
t5_2fwo
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wefarrell
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`(![] + [])[![] + ![]]` That's as far as I got
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0
1492725629
False
0
dgja45n
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgj95e9
null
1494241897
15
t5_2fwo
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biocomputation
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>> Your argument is meritless. Disagreeing with something doesn't make it meritless. It's simply a fact that many companies, including multi-nationals, choose to operate here because of the business climate. Business climate includes laws and social policies. >> And no one benefits from petty tribalism an...
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0
1492725679
False
0
dgja5ob
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgj9t6h
null
1494241920
14
t5_2fwo
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KennyGaming
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What does that mean?
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0
1492725682
False
0
dgja5rh
t3_66i327
null
null
t1_dgj9pq9
null
1494241921
3
t5_2fwo
null
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LucasThePatator
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It's ok, most of us still love you <3 ! Just make better food and you will be fine !
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0
1492725713
False
0
dgja6pq
t3_66kb3c
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null
t1_dgja3ka
null
1494241937
1
t5_2fwo
null
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kubr0t0
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> DI doesn't reduce dependencies. You're right, it doesn't. Dependency Inversion simply changes compile time dependencies into runtime dependencies. Better yet, instead of saying that our application depends on Oracle, we can instead say that Oracle depends on our application! Dependency Inversion inverts the dep...
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0
1492725719
1492725929
0
dgja6w7
t3_66hm9l
null
null
t1_dgixmqw
null
1494241939
4
t5_2fwo
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imakesawdust
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I'd like to see the test. If the test consisted of defining a new language with a foreign syntax and asked students to write code on paper using that language then I could perhaps understand the high failure rate. I had a professor who defined a new CPU architecture on a midterm exam and asked students to write mic...
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0
1492725756
False
0
dgja80u
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgj9ad9
null
1494241954
20
t5_2fwo
null
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Tyler1986
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US Here, got a degree from a good university, but I didn't learn to program until after I had a job. I mean, I *could* program, just not passably well. I wouldn't have hired me. Hell, I still probably wouldn't hire me.
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0
1492725796
False
0
dgja97z
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgj7a9u
null
1494241970
0
t5_2fwo
null
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steego
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> Precise numbers are irrelevant. Who's demanding precise numbers? I'm asking you to back up that number you pulled out of your ass with an educated guess. Your response at least tries to contrive a reason why you picked 95% rather than 50%, but I think your reasoning is flawed because you're making a number of...
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0
1492725811
False
0
dgja9n4
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgj884q
null
1494241976
1
t5_2fwo
null
null
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shamen_uk
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Well a good graphics module should be about stuff like Linear Algebra, rather than programming - but I see your point. However, you said that people on your course could pick modules to avoid programming? I don't think you should judge all CS degrees by Nottingham. I did (all but my final year of) CS PhD at Nottingham...
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0
1492725813
False
0
dgja9pe
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgj9xua
null
1494241976
2
t5_2fwo
null
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null
alexmace
null
Woah woah woah, make better food?! You should have seen it before we joined the EU, now we have lots of good food.
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0
1492725845
False
0
dgjaamv
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgja6pq
null
1494241988
1
t5_2fwo
null
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null
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[deleted]
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0
1492725856
False
0
dgjaayv
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgj95e9
null
1494241993
1
t5_2fwo
null
null
null
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i_tried_butt_fuck_it
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Because that's the way we're taught programming! 1\. Start TurboC on a dusty old windows machine. 2\. /* Insert problem statement as a comment here or you lose marks. * It better look pretty or you'll lose some marks. */ #include<stdio.h> #include<conio.h> void main() { ...
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0
1492725860
1492726990
0
dgjab3z
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgj9cej
null
1494241995
4
t5_2fwo
null
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combinatorylogic
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Why "almost"?
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0
1492725936
False
0
dgjadea
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgj8ulc
null
1494242026
3
t5_2fwo
null
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steego
null
Or they're fired soon after they do get the job.
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0
1492725968
False
0
dgjaebw
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgj9yte
null
1494242038
1
t5_2fwo
null
null
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coolseb1
null
[This](http://www.aspiringminds.com/technology/automata) is the test.
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0
1492725975
False
0
dgjaeju
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgj9ad9
null
1494242041
34
t5_2fwo
null
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null
null
WittyOriginalName
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The purpose is practice, not full time production. Do you never write code on the train, or in a restaurant?
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0
1492726008
False
0
dgjafi6
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgj8330
null
1494242055
3
t5_2fwo
null
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woggy
null
Sounds like something straight out of Quora.
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0
1492726074
False
0
dgjahj1
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgj8s8j
null
1494242082
1
t5_2fwo
null
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jnordwick
null
Never trust architects that can't code. They can't architect either.
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0
1492726158
False
0
dgjajzt
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgj9emx
null
1494242114
8
t5_2fwo
null
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steego
null
1. They don't get the job 2. They're fired soon after. 3. They're not fired and the rest of the team makes up for them. 4. The company doesn't survive. 5. The company thrives at first with a good team, then fails with a bad team. 6. They don't work for a software company. 7. They're consultants and they always leave a ...
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0
1492726260
False
0
dgjamy6
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgj8s33
null
1494242153
4
t5_2fwo
null
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i_tried_butt_fuck_it
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Not sure why you're being down voted. The company that came up with this report feeds an endless supply of fresh graduates to service companies that take up all the H1Bs. The one's who can actually write some code are not using Aspiring Minds to land a job and they're not joining service companies.
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0
1492726310
False
0
dgjaoem
t3_66kb3c
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null
t1_dgj7zc6
null
1494242173
4
t5_2fwo
null
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LucasThePatator
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I didn't want to make up statistics. I'm sorry that wasn't clear. I just used the 95% figure to make a qualitative point because that's the figure the article used. I don't have any number that's true and I think I mostly agree with what you said. I just don't believe that the vast majority of people graduating in CS i...
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0
1492726330
False
0
dgjap0l
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgja9n4
null
1494242182
1
t5_2fwo
null
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What_Is_X
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There is a difference between knowledge and understanding. Understanding is more important.
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0
1492726418
False
0
dgjark4
t3_66kb3c
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null
t1_dgj90jf
null
1494242215
6
t5_2fwo
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tangerinelion
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> Someone's skin color has zero relationship to their ability to write good code. Yes, definitely. But someone's educational history has a lot to do with that ability. This article is talking about how the Indian education system is failing terribly. It could probably even get into how Indian parents push their ...
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0
1492726456
False
0
dgjasox
t3_66kb3c
null
null
t1_dgj8ae8
null
1494242231
12
t5_2fwo
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