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SuperGrade
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I think in some workplaces they need to identify passionate developers and keep them *out*.
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realigion
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What **I**nternet age are you living in?
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FrankBattaglia
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The Constitution does not work that way.
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freakish777
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Visual Studio gets really slow when the project you're opening is bulky, and then sometimes take a little while to open the file you click on. But seriously this is nothing to really complain about, I mean you're the one with the bulky project to support (ie, don't volunteer to support legacy systems that have 200 MB+ worth of source code files).
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Ranekore
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"Because it makes us look like idiots, would it have killed to guy to spend 2 minutes proofreading it?" Ironic.
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kamatsu
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I know plenty of employers that will hire you for in depth knowledge of haskell - I work for one. Also, afaik, PyPy is not a language, Python is, and I could get a job writing that as well.
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UsingYourWifi
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I personally don't know why I struggled with it. I'm going to guess it's due to poor explanations, because given a good one it clicks with just about anyone. If i had to guess, data having or needing an address is a foreign concept. Usually in most intro to programming courses you're dealing only with data on the stack up until you get to pointers, and the stack and heap- in my experience- aren't discussed that early on in a course. You just get to declare variables and they magically work. Understanding pointers requires a change in some basic assumptions that might have been made.
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FrankBattaglia
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Yeah, screw the Constitution and its carefully constructed system of checks and balances that have worked for over two hundred years, even through times of crisis. We don't like software patents, people! Dolt.
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JAPH
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Only if the US can try to change how your government operates also.
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ashtar
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works
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whileonebegin
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It's good programming practice to ALWAYS include curly braces around if/then statements. This has multiple benefits and few drawbacks: Pros: 1. Code readability. 2. Easier to add additional logic inside the curly braces. 3. Automatic indentation and pretty-formatting of code (in some IDEs). Cons: 1. Requires developer to type 2 extra keys. 2. Adds at least 1 line of code (2 lines if each curly brace is on a separate line). Adding curly braces around if/then's is a common courtesy to fellow developers who may have to touch your code in the future. Everyone probably has their own preference, but which code is easier to maintain? Don't do this: `if (a) b();` `if (a) { b(); }` Do this: `if (a) {` b(); `}` `if (a)` `{` b(); `}`
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FrankBattaglia
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This is the crux of the issue. What is "obvious" to a software developer is usually not considered "obvious" by the law (at least in the USPTO; in court when a patent is litigated, each side hires an expert to opine on the level of skill in the art).
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Baaz
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Ah ok, that would definitely make sense. Sounds eerily similar to the Java FX debacle.
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cafezinho
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What is the time frame of this event?
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vfr
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Holy crap, what are you, like 12? Checks and balances doesn't even come into play here, what the holy hell are you talking about? Software patents have been argued against for over a decade, and the EU has resisted them for exactly this reason. In fact, all patents of every kind no longer even serve the purpose they were intended to fill, namely protecting inventors. They're now a kind of legal corporate espionage more than anything else.
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washort
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Considering that they're targeting this to replace C++, it looks tight and focused by comparison. ;)
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jib
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The one in which "Internet" and "internet" are both widely accepted spellings.
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jseigh
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You mean lock-free read access? You could do that already. Immutability isn't exactly on my list of things that would be really nice for supporting lock-free.
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choikwa
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you accidentally a word
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kikaerter
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It's like Java plus some ML and Haskell. Good times for all.
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vfr
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The president has the ability to introduce bills to congress.
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washort
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Oh, misread this title as saying that Factor should be considered if you're looking for the optimal programming language. All I see here are some Indians talking about Java and PHP though. :(
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jib
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> Am I just out the money now? Yes. The risk of the government screwing your company is part of the risk of investing in a company, and you would have taken that into account when lending.
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argv_minus_one
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>If you remove software patents, organizations no longer have any means to protect their IP. Hogwash. Copyright is the main legal tool used to protect software innovation. Patents are used only to extort money from others.
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Irritable_Succubus
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You forgot to capitalize "fucking".
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arturoman
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Not programming.
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jaschwan
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TLDR
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jadero
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Not terribly impressed. I don't blame the author, though, because the whole 'passionate programmer' thing seems to be a staple of the industry and everybody is trying find ways to identify the passionate programmer. In my opinion, there are very few managers and fewer companies deserving of passionate employees, programmers or otherwise. In fact, most companies and managers somehow figure out ways to stifle whatever passion might exist. Until that changes (good luck!), everybody else better focus on either getting work done without passion or somehow developing passion. Telling me up front that you're looking for or even demanding passion is a good way turn that passion off, because most such passion-seekers are also passion-destroyers. If I'm passionate about what I do, and you're not passionate about fostering and supporting that, then you don't deserve me. Even if I come work for you, I'm not going to waste my passion on your work when that passion goes unsupported and unrewarded. So, if you want passionate programmers, then you better step up your game (not author specifically, just in general) and demonstrate passion yourself.
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[deleted]
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Proper noun capitalization. It has nothing to do with spelling.
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DanielKeep
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After five years of using it for my research project? No way.
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FrankBattaglia
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>While it is in fact true that you never specifically said, "Open Source," the implications are exactly the same. If you remove software patents, organizations no longer have any means to protect their IP. If they have no means to protect IP, there are no mechanisms to prevent anyone on the planet from accessing their code, thereby effectively making it Open Source. Well that's simply false. Copyright and trade secret law provide a large degree of protection for a company to protect its codebase. There's an argument to be made for "software patents," but this is *not* that argument.
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expertunderachiever
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I've yet to see places [other than schools] where knowing Haskell promotes any sort of economic advancement. In fact, it cost us money here. We had one of them interns from Waterloo [who's actually now a full-timer] re-write one of our vector generators in Haskell. He was all proud and what not... until we tried to run the test suite on different OSes... None of them had the same version [if one at all] and basically we had to scrap it and re-write it in C.
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lespea
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I'm on the dev mailing list already :) Just good to see a status report + I was trying to get others excited by posting this.
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[deleted]
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If you could rephrase that somehow, I think it would be a brilliant joke. Maybe stick together the two images (of a win in Solitare and this one) with the caption "You won!"
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[deleted]
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Do you really think that most programmers are unemployed? I'm on my phone, so I can't link to it, but it's one of the fastest growing careers on the BLS website. Significantly increased demand between between 2008 and 2018.
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paranoidray
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Well one way to tell if someone is passionate, is when he has built his own software forge: http://raysforge.net/viewProject.xhtml?fn=Raysforge
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jrue
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This kind of over simplicity drives me up the wall. It's not always so straightforward what something means. > A linked list is a list of things that are linked. Ok, sounds simple. But what could it actually mean? Off the top of my head, here's some it could be interpreted/implemented: 1. A list of `data` and `next` pointers, where `next` points to the next item, or `NULL` if there is no next item (what he said it was in the example), i.e. a singly linked list. 2. The same thing, except `next` points back to the beginning if there is no next thing (or more likely to a beginning sentinal node), i.e. a circular singly linked list. 3. The same thing as 1, except there's also a `prev` pointer, i.e. a doubly linked list. 4. The same thing as 2, except there's also a `prev` pointer, i.e. a circular doubly linked list. 5. Something like 3 or 4, except instead of a `next` and `prev` pointer, there's just one `next_prev` pointer which is the XOR of `next` and `prev`, i.e. an [XOR linked list](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XOR_linked_list). 6. Any one of the examples above, except that instead of storing pointers (which is more commonly 8 bytes now due to 64-bit trends), you store an offset into a small array so that you only need one byte for it. Essentially doing the same job as a pointer, but with a limited range, and you can't officially call it a "pointer". 7. Any of the above, except instead of having a `data` member plus information on how to go back/forwards in the list, you have *just* the `prev`/`next` information in the linked list, and the `data` is inferred by the relative position of these `prev`/`next` positions within the struct. [This is how linked lists are implemented in the Linux kernel](http://kernelnewbies.org/FAQ/LinkedLists). Well, I could go on, but it's very clear that you can't just say "linked list" and expect that to communicate everything that a linked list is or could be. The author mentioned just the first definition and said that that's all there is to a linked list. Noooooo way.
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nemtrif
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Interesting. I wonder whether that is still the case after the latest changes.
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Smallpaul
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It sounds like he was pretty junior.
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kamatsu
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Thanks for your anecdotal evidence, but to counter it I have my own: I know plenty of people who make money writing Haskell. An example of a non-academic company that does so is Tsuru Capital, in fact there are many haskell-using finance companies. Also, Haskell is popular in industries where formal methods are popular, for obvious reasons (this is where I work). As for your example, this doesn't say anything except that you had very specific platform requirements not met by any Haskell implementation (I'd like to know what those requirements were, because GHC is pretty cross-platform). You should've done the research before you did the code. Certainly this is not evidence to substantiate your claim that Haskell is not a useful language in industry.
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password456
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I recommend the Visual Studio 2010 Keybinding posters: http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=13189 Download, print and put your office's laminator to use... Helps to have them handy and learn a new shortcut every 2-3 days
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diewhitegirls
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Copyright does not offer anywhere near the same protections as patents. And I believe the word "piracy" is a clear example of just how effective copyrights are. Patents offer protection on their innovation. Protecting a jumble of audio/visual info as literature (copyright) means that any half-talented coder can go out and produce something very similar, but "different." (see:China) Patents protect INNOVATION, which is the useful, end-result of the string of code. If you discover the next secret sauce, as soon as you make a peep about it, everyone and their brother will be attempting to replicate it (with copyright). Therefore, your incentive to ever bring the product to market is held up until you are 100% certain it works. But how do you know it works if you can't test it in the real world? If, however, you have patent protection, the end-result of your code is protected and you are therefore incentivized to bring the product to the public. Once it is in the public domain, others can license from you to effectively decrease the end-cost to society...and the more, the better! Copyrights will do none of this. If you remove software patents, you will hamper innovation.
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ocdude
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Not all patents. Just software patents. If you're still paranoid about someone stealing your work, there's still copyright.
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dr3d
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Ahh okay. ..... Now I am even more confused...
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[deleted]
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I always thought the best solution for a language with C-like syntax would be to just always *require* curly braces after an `if`/`for`/`while`, but erroring on ambiguities isn't so bad either.
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shakingApple
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I *would* have, except for your comment.
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FlySwat
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No, I've used both helios (for android dev), and Rational Application Developer (RAD, from IBM, total shit), and the Force.com IDE (also total shit). Helios is only a tiny bit better than those bastard versions though when it comes to overall memory footprint and speed.
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sailorh
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And the author cant edit the existing petition, huh?
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i8beef
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Having an index on CustomerType on the Customer table wouldn't be useful here though, indexing the Customers table? Why would the CustomerType table have a foreign key back to the Customers table in this instance? The point about multi-column indexes is a good one, but only if the only methods by which you will be searching are multi-column where clauses / joins... I think from a design perspective I would still want one on the foreign key column itself, especially if I'm using an ORM on the code side (which I am for a lot of stuff).
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ressis74
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http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos303.htm
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manixrock
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I think we should follow the lead of the internet. Look at all the innovation there is online. Would the internet be better or worse if you couldn't create any websites without paying 10 licence fees for using HTML/JavaScript/CSS/PHP/SQL/etc. It would be much, much worse. The internet is an innovation wildfire because there are no patents, and copyrights aren't really enforced. We should do away with anything that prevents the free flow of information, in all it's forms.
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tsujiku
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Software is already covered by copyright, there is no need to have patents as well.
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cradlesong
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Scumbag Reddit: ~1500 upvotes, ~900 signatures.
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billiarddaddy
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Exactly the explanation I was hoping for. Thank you, kind sir.
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anshou
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If you can't see how not signing this position hurts the cause more than nitpicking over minor grammatical issues, then I am clearly wasting my time. I expected to get downvoted over this, so I'm not surprised, but I made sure to upvote everyone else in this discussion to do my part to ensure their opinions are heard along with everyone else's. At least this comment thread is moving down the line a bit now.
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manixrock
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Yes, we're asking them to bark at the right trees in our name. They are supposed to do our collective bidding, and they know the right trees to bark at to get the job done.
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ressis74
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lawyers don't make laws unless they are actually members of congress. The number of jobs in congress is more or less steady. It will not decrease ever. Those who make the laws have nothing but lobbyists to lose.
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eaturbrainz
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>if, due to a evaluating to false, we do not execute b, we don't have an alternative. If we want a value it is going to be some kind of default and it is not clear what the principle of least surprise requires of the designer of the programming language. Unit type.
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anshou
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Typically one cannot change a petition after it has been created. I would not want to sign a petition to have it be changed afterward to include language that I do not agree with.
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diewhitegirls
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No, it's not. See my argument above for copyright...and trade secrets?? Forget it. Trade secrets for software are impossible to defend. You have to have a team of lawyers drafting ungodly reams of NDA's, everything has to be done under lock and key, you have to somehow convince a judge that the employee "willfully" passed the information to a friend of a friend of a competitor. The few examples of successfully defensed trade secret cases always end up in a poor outcome for the claimant, even when they "win."
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FrankBattaglia
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>Checks and balances doesn't even come into play here This petition requests that the Executive unilaterally implement a change in standing law. Either you are a troll, or your understanding of the Constitution is so limited as to be nonexistent. Either way, I see no gain to be had from a discussion with you on the topic.
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xTRUMANx
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It's funny because this is the second time his comment bitching about the petition has been corrected.
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vorpalsword92
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erm..this is unconstitutional especially "void all previously issued patents". The government can't make an ex post facto law (a law that operates retroactively). Also PLEASE proof read, you're trying to change the world not send a text to your mom. Spelling is important here. for more info look up the definition of an ex post facto law according to Calder v Bull "1st. Every law that makes an action done before the passing of the law, and which was innocent when done, criminal; and punishes such action. 2d. Every law that aggravates a crime, or makes it greater than it was, when committed. 3d. Every law that changes the punishment, and inflicts a greater punishment, than the law annexed to the crime, when committed. 4th. Every law that alters the legal rules of evidence, and receives less, or different, testimony, than the law required at the time of the commission of the offense, in order to convict the offender." There might be a way you can get around this, but a petition asking for legislation about this would be asking for an "illegal law". Also please don't downvote me for pointing this fact out because you disagree.
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jtmengel
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I don't know if I agree with your Math Professor analogy - his definition of passion or 'spark' sounds like it's 'inspire motivation in others'. If I went to a professor in the my college's math department and asked him why 2+2=4 and he 100% blew me off, I'd feel pretty uninspired. And on that vein, can you really make the case that passion in people who pursue a doctoral degree comes *after* they get the doctorate? What was motivating them before then? I agree that the article wasn't fully comprehensive but it seems like you're arguing against hiring incompetent employees while the article only suggested hiring those with 'passion' (and I lodge my complaint with the loose definition of 'passion'). I really got the impression that his listed indicators aren't actually indicative of passion. 'Honesty' and his definition of 'Pensiveness' would fall under integrity (something you get a feel for from references anyways), 'Steadfastness' would be a measure of confidence and 'Eyes' is a personal call on the part of the interviewer so it bears mentioning but can't really be assessed as a hiring practice. So what *is* passion? These definitions conflict with what I would assume passion would be, 'an interest in the company's work which generates motivation', which was mentioned nowhere in the article. Others have posted here that some companies don't have an interest in 'passionate' programmers and others 'sap passion' from programmers, and I think it's worth considering this. Many companies really don't care if you're passionate about the work, and many employees reciprocate the indifference to passion so long as they get paid and don't need to fear for their job. Sure a company with like-minded employees will have fewer conflicts, and passionate employees may take an extra late paycheck or two, but it's really no more complicated than 'does the employee match our corporate culture?' If you have a company of business dress programmers, don't hire the undisciplined sandal'ed guy with that spark in his eye cause he'll upset the balance; If you are a business-casual group with loose hours, don't hire the 9-5 who's only there to pay the utilities. So I guess the most important thing to identifying 'passion' (and let's just call it motivation?) is understanding why that person came to your company. Try to identify if they're going to be happy working with you, not trying to figure out that twinkle in his eye cause that's probably just a caught eyelash.
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aristotle2600
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I didn't say it was an easy solution, but I think it's the right one. I understand and acknowledge the issues with software patents, but how many of them are really particular to software? Governments and courts are notorious for not understanding technology, I just think that that is what needs to be fixed. An outright ban seems like overkill, and could hinder reform being taken seriously.
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ell0bo
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unemployed... i don't know one programmer that's unemployed except for those that burnt out a little and wanted time off, or those that think they are better than they really are. I get calls about new jobs about twice a day.
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Buttosaurus
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This better not suck.
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FrankBattaglia
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So then before 1998, everything was open source, there was no way for any organization to protect its software IP, and the entire proprietary software industry was nonexistent. Got it.
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bananahead
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"Void all previously issued patents?" That's a ridiculous request that no one will take seriously.
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nascent
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My point point was that the compiler couldn't even put in a check because it wouldn't know if the the type at some point was declared immutable or shared, there isn't a check you could add to find it. I suppose a runtime type chain could be kept at runtime, but that would be a lot of overhead, and I don't know if the spec would even allow for such.
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lazyFer
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I'm not saying Oracle DBA's are by default useless, I was just pointing out the pattern I've seen. I've worked with 1 good and 2 phenomenal Oracle DBAs, but the rest have been stuck in an old mindset.
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Pxtl
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Notice how syntactically-significant whitespace would solve everything? Python is awesome.
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FrankBattaglia
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Maybe I was previously unclear, but I agree with you. The disconnect between what we know is obvious, and what the USPTO is allowed to determine legally obvious, creates a swath of patents that don't in fact serve to promote the progress of the arts and sciences. As you say, though, there's not an easy solution, because on the other hand we don't want an Examiner to be able to deny a patent application based on his gut alone.
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JAPH
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Yes, but congress still needs to be on board with the idea. You needs the support of congress before a bill has a chance.
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1corn
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Please upgrade your phone.
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bananahead
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The internet is now a generic term. Or do you still capitalize Telephone?
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argv_minus_one
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>And I believe the word "piracy" is a clear example of just how effective copyrights are. …You think patents protect against piracy? Are you mad or just retarded? I'm done with you. You clearly haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about. Good day.
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dbingham
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Not really, sorry, it was late at night. I was really just playing with the system to see what it could do and didn't realize I wouldn't be able to edit it (or delete it) later. :/ When I had that realization it was too late, so I just ran with it. Edit: Hacker News is working on writing a new and better one. I completely support this. And at this point I'm begging WH.gov to take mine down. Why don't we collaborate on writing one with better language? Someone start a thread and the top voted language after 24 hours or so will be the new petition. I've suggested new language in this [comment](http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/kosg9/white_housegov_petition_direct_the_patent_office/c2m1br6). But I don't think I'm the best person to be writing this by a long shot. If someone else wants to throw any out there, I'm all for it!
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__s
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Love triangles. Then you can get into mutual recursion (two self haters in love with each other) and doubly linked or singly linked and self reference (yay Narcissism) and null can fit in there. Also shared data since multiple people can love the same person. Then there's those people who start loving everbody. Add in some fickle feelings and we have mutability Then again, people also seem to have trouble with love
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guymean
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You know what they say... "You don't get to 500 million friends without making a few enemies." The guy sat in Jimmy Iovine's office and five years later still thinks Jimmy's the good guy. Doesn't surprise me that he lacked the social sense and business skills to avoid becoming a cautionary tale.
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argv_minus_one
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You seriously think an economic projection of employment figures stretching to *2018* is even remotely accurate? Projected employment figures for the *next quarter* are usually way off!
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sanity
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There is a big difference between a petition you want hundreds of thousands of people to sign and a reddit comment.
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argv_minus_one
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I'm talking about the United States, not India.
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expertunderachiever
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I didn't do the code, the bright-eyed intern ran off using his "new-language of the day" foo and wrote a program we couldn't use. My warning is to the others who don't work in one of the few select places that it makes sense. MOST programming jobs don't call for these fly-by-night-fad languages...
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dbingham
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Sorry for the typos and bad language. I wrote this really late at night when I was just playing with the system to see what it could do. I didn't realize that I wouldn't be able to edit or even delete it later. Once I realized, it was too late. So I ran with it.
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So the solution to software patent problems is to eliminate software patents completely?
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koonat
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Nope. All software patents need to be destroyed. Copyright is plenty.
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YourMatt
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It's been mostly stable. Off the top of my head, I've had 2 issues I could call stability problems: 1) If executing an especially heavy query, and you let it go a while before cancelling, it will not cancel. 2) On occasion, the Open Table feature would cause a blue screen. This is with SSMS 9 and XP. I don't use this feature at all anymore.
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__s
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You're missing the important part that the pointer itself is addressable data. Also null
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koonat
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> If you make the distinction between software patents and 'regular' patents, then you are essentially claiming that innovation in software is not real innovation. Copyright software, that's fine. It's like you're saying there is no innovation in the world of literature, because you can't patent books. I don't think you understand enough about software to be talking about this.
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> Implying UI design isn't fucking hard work and doesn't require a lot of research to get something right
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kamatsu
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You're an idiot who knows not what he talks about.
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> In C++, I'd use a reference anyway. Which has the exact problem you described in your example. >> the struct vs class dichotomy requires upfront knowledge of how a type will be used. > But the values std::vector manipulates can be references. So, in essence, it has both. Ok, I think I understand what you'd want, please correct me if I'm wrong. You'd want a value type. You'd want a way to turn value types into a reference type (not pointer, maybe) and to take a struct and just add inheritance and polymorphism. So in essence classes could just go because struct can cover it all. The problem is that these changes all influence the design. So lets just concentration on this one thing Andrei said, "In C++ people always choose at design time whether a type is value or polymorphic, and using it the other way around is almost always incorrect."
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