| 10.59064432883839 17.90460223150113 O1 And we are going to talk about celebrities so Seville, why don't you tell me some of your favorite celebrities?
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| 17.90460223150113 20.40668704170601 O1 Who are they? Why do you like them?
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| 22.147144553998746 28.821571687957267 O2 Well, to, personally I enjoy a bunch of the musicians and actors.
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| 29.052594399775575 32.27057251656273 O2 but I'll start with musicians first.
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| 35.03421701173361 38.28979664410716 O2 So there is Harry Styles.
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| 39.42033991430059 42.84489832205359 O2 Actually, you want the whole group of one direction.
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| 43.8380029508253 46.37495771094469 O2 So e- every uh band member .
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| 47.67354002643067 49.888961702977795 O2 I am proud to say that I'm one
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| 52.36707436626486 54.32585126747026 O2 Um, of course.
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| 54.5378907532738 60.62405461075082 O2 When you say celebrity I, I think of like fangirls and stuff. So that's why.
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| 60.82775674301721 63.63728471546525 O2 one direction is the first thing like in the mind
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| 64.34476875695339 70.04092010732451 O2 Other than that uh more artistically speaking I would say Julian Catherine.
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| 72.13707436626487 77.66129285971728 O2 Is a name that I enjoy uh keeping up to.
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| 77.89863886107885 79.2093869688839 O2 Keeping up with.
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| 80.5266375067024 82.1306813870747 O2 Speaking of keeping up.
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| 84.60413171580163 86.44243203766109 O2 I keep up with the Kardashian.
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| 88.27450500060539 89.35613925634206 O2 they're like
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| 90.02525709818218 90.8141957322447 O1 The biggest
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| 90.8141957322447 92.81369303246977 O2 the biggest celebrities
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| 94.31909038859568 96.97426725762813 O1 No. I'm in America at least. Maybe the.
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| 99.52777695410444 107.52777695410444 O1 Yeah, I mean speaking of the Kardashians, I just think it's so weird how their career excelled. You know.
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| 107.69512639385879 110.8264511314781 O1 from that one show that they had that reality show.
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| 112.04757485902303 115.60468063387611 O1 I don't know they have, uh I mean their life has turned into something.
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| 115.92440899877941 118.94245692228102 O2 So wild as they say,
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| 118.94802648110871 120.14530716670401 O1 you know what I mean
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| 122.94430889071683 130.26318083519485 O2 I think the most interesting thing about them is that they got. They just got more famous as they.
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| 130.4319931252971 131.7715321843751 O2 As time went on.
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| 132.32255340899567 133.16996171532003 O1 That's true.
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| 133.16996171532003 135.76022961851453 O2 which is something that we don't see often
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| 137.39288509887177 141.69774468659722 O1 You're right you're right like it didn't go down have uh they didn't have like a
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| 142.99042898625413 145.8232072679795 O2 A big moment and then just like a female.
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| 147.03409341591112 152.82660022953667 O1 paid it out that just like sounds an excel and now even though their show has ended in.
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| 153.35451098579824 160.02117271042485 O1 There is nothing changing like or maybe over time it will, but like right now they're so very much famous. They're very famous.
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| 160.02117271042485 164.11060143939292 O1 They're very relevant or maybe they're trying to stay relevant. I don't know, but.
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| 165.98183337793063 170.65928518439426 O2 I think they found of the formula of staying relevant.
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| 172.60376271264522 174.54333155421241 O1 Why do you think they're so relevant?
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| 176.27605540826934 181.25333288855313 O2 Well, I think because they always come of something new.
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| 181.81666742540938 184.303331868175 O2 They don't stay in the same place.
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| 185.90333430138435 187.60666601257813 O1 I think it's because they.
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| 188.0633343013844 194.00210675743338 O1 Weren't shy to show things that a lot of people maybe wouldn't want to show because they were very open about
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| 194.00210675743338 197.0749279635523 O1 everything happening in their lives okay even though
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| 197.0749279635523 201.1037508718301 O1 yeah, I'm sure some parts of the show were staged and everything.
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| 201.46857245924792 203.2384349557516 O1 I mean like the general.
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| 204.02503465139154 207.16357226382604 O1 um just like general things about them.
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| 207.56493340274722 211.8617691033558 O1 I feel like that was out in the open and everyone just knew what was going on in their relationships,
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| 211.8902751975603 218.90748975171115 O1 even if it was something that would be considered embarrassing, you know? Or just T M I for a lot of people.
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| 218.90748975171115 222.6674258923523 O1 or I feel like they never held back and they were just show everything.
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| 223.4753069112122 229.55667535296251 O1 And they were open in that sense, and I think that's why uh that's what made them so relevant and relatable at the same time,
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| 229.55667535296251 233.24842620129257 O1 like when I watched their shows, I
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| 234.0071494533659 235.02075639742102 O1 felt like.
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| 236.41782341275638 242.95624907448064 O1 I felt like cause I also have sisters. I was able to relate to their relationship as sisters.
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| 244.03682872441087 250.16568487976224 O1 Yeah, I felt like it was really similar and that's what I'm see. That's what I was trying to see when I felt like I c- connect with them
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| 250.3056843303278 257.24975675158174 O1 because it was just so real and it I don't know. It felt organic the way, um, you know.
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| 257.7354430018772 259.6210877834328 O1 The interacted on the show.
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| 260.22292563693617 263.1059179832636 O2 I understand that and I agree.
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| 266.8100010988687 274.1502758703894 O2 I think, but uh, to be a bit critical, they have lost that a
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| 274.15892405050874 277.58557726911494 O2 relatability quite a bit as they've gone.
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| 278.31000117735937 286.14455998076653 O2 As they become more and more famous, since you know they have like a very luxurious lifestyle right now
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| 286.15442384860995 288.92107965740684 O2 and well, everyone is trying to.
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| 289.16000109886875 293.0533323391188 O2 Emulate that kind of lifestyle, but the reality is that.
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| 293.5774163149196 296.1799989796219 O2 No one really has the.
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| 297.4127239261455 301.05666569861563 O2 you know financial stability to actually.
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| 301.5200010988688 304.1233325745906 O2 Live like them or like they have.
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| 307.27211330903253 309.22127217075223 O2 large mansion that they live in?
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| 309.82323720924745 314.2133296704374 O2 so it kind of builds this barrier between the Watcher and.
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| 314.6000010988687 316.4666658555969 O2 The celebrity but.
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| 317.02333445836564 318.7899991366031 O2 Uh other than that?
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| 322.61231619718257 324.4565296079506 O2 managed to stay relevant.
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| 325.28000109886875 331.4066658555969 O1 I understand what you're saying. I feel like the first seasons were the best. If you I don't know if you watched the show.
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| 333.32591008673586 339.87421302279046 O1 I kind of like action was never watching it when it was like let's say the first season was backing I don't even know when like
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| 339.8853327708172 341.17199438792034 O1 Two thousand and one
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| 342.0119910913141 342.6631083276407 O2 Three minutes.
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| 342.67420203410296 346.6800023547187 O1 We maybe I never watched it in that time I watched it later on.
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| 346.93306071042406 353.40924892875734 O1 So I kind of binge watched it and I feel like it was actually fun to watch it that way
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| 353.42229237915984 357.34746826318536 O1 and I would definitely say that I like the spin offs and like the
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| 357.3746791878579 362.2182237795843 O1 the first seasons were just the best because they were not that rich yet and they were just
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| 362.30211527293534 366.499400403687 O1 I don't know. I feel I feel were more relatable to my lifestyle. Do you agree?
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| 366.56062498420044 367.8350210051472 O2 Yeah, exactly.
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| 370.44993172079614 372.277687397381 O1 So what do you think about?
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| 372.9239468583557 374.9244901285491 O1 Celebrity lifestyle.
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| 375.30748255976926 377.7800682792039 O1 Like is that a life that you would like to live?
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| 378.6346934844419 386.09047499098955 O2 Well, I I mean I I couldn't tell you for sure without actually living it. Maybe for like a week or something.
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| 386.515320792901 392.87813315445914 O2 But uh I think that everybody kind of glorifies that kind of lifestyle. You know, the
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| 393.0073850466541 394.9529661607465 O2 the rock star lifestyle
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| 397.38877690120546 400.38196676144327 O2 seems to happen to them and everything is just
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| 400.39515109527053 401.22508429778543 O1 all good
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| 401.48358808217534 405.32032846101487 O1 good and happy and just all about having a go- good time
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| 406.0618261583437 409.55842997877545 O2 and well, I mean wha- that doesn't sound bad.
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| 411.86909985661504 413.7738645836984 O2 The reality yeah.
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| 414.2310880221057 420.33542867804783 O2 I I don't think so. I I think that a lot of celebrities struggle with their lifestyle.
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| 421.9767359336831 424.94408193504466 O1 Do you have any examples of who you think that might be?
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| 429.64780307316744 430.8901959472989 O1 Do you were know?
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| 430.900856372611 436.6204593648382 O2 Um I I can't think of any right now specifically, but I know there there are many.
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| 437.23428529093746 443.33632329502217 O2 That you know, going to a certain depression or get overwhelmed with
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| 443.35439842216977 446.13671546994516 O2 all of a the attention on them.
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| 446.48108802210567 454.48108802210567 O1 Well, I'm going back to the Kardashians. Sorry, I don't wanna keep talking about them like there's nothing else to talk about, but there are huge part of pop culture
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| 455.0233676680575 456.10500192379413 O1 thing? yeah we, we could say
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| 456.1072340699587 456.8963508854647 O2 That's true.
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| 456.9598607584798 464.7920896255281 O1 So they I was watching this one interview on Instagram and Kylie was saying like I don't think
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| 464.7943217716927 468.3861638284786 O1 I was born to be famous like my character is not.
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| 469.580748107805 476.5222303055921 O1 Just someone who could, you know, take all the criticism and feel fine about it and just move on with life. She was like
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| 476.5222303055921 484.5222303055921 O1 I'm not that person. I was not meant to be famous. My character is not, you know, fit for this kind of lifestyle. And then Courtney was like I definitely
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| 484.7898339674022 488.919079932722 O1 was not supposed to be famous. And then Kim's like I was totally meant to be famous
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| 489.8691888575122 492.9326913219335 O1 cause she, like you can tell like she actu- she she likes it. She likes.
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| 492.9326913219335 499.9984437131448 O1 She likes it more than she hates it. I could say but I feel like maybe with Kylie maybe Kylie the most because she she was in it and.
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| 500.0120610292314 503.7059440535396 O1 Such a young gay she was born into it so it's different ones like that I think
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| 504.07428529093823 511.1355083897328 O1 Like whereas Courtney, she was already a certain age when they actually, you know, became so famous. So
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| 511.1436145128349 512.5857935204838 O1 she got to live her life.
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| 512.8410880221056 518.8682959833407 O1 Uh in a normal way, and then she became famous and she didn't really care if she's not the type to really care about
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| 518.8682959833407 521.4066505530791 O1 the criticism. You know that people.
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| 523.324693484442 524.9640819350446 O1 Do you and have on you.
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| 526.4382306675744 530.6640819350447 O1 So yeah anything else you like to say.
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| 532.3538785791518 537.7740819350447 O2 Um, let's talk about celebrity culture. And then you know the.
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| 539.7354430739657 541.4708846662128 O2 I don't know, kind of.
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| 543.1821092467262 546.1248983220536 O2 Uh putting celebrities on a pedestal.
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| 546.5910880221056 550.4770061271075 O2 And you know the unhealthy glorification
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| 550.4770061271075 557.747754194866 O1 Well, that's a a really good subject to actually talk about for me, because for um you know what, how I asked you like.
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| 558.0810880221056 565.5450556645709 O1 Who's your celebrity crush or like you know who's your favorite celebrity? I honestly even in my childhood I remember when I was
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| 565.5450556645709 572.8443862080013 O1 never like the fangirl type I would. I was never able to fangirl over anyone. I don't know why.
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| 573.1981282287454 574.046184332263 O1 But I'm really
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| 576.515575746303 583.5291797269206 O1 maybe it's not that it's just I feel like there are two human and there's no point in glorifying them so much. They're they're just like, uh you know
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| 583.5291797269206 585.501983619436 O1 a person like me. That's how I feel
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| 585.5223918129406 591.0439773753179 O1 that I can like their music, but I just I'm not able to glorify them as a person is what I'm trying to say.
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| 591.0484948139842 596.0485022225782 O1 Like it's one thing to like, love their songs and even, you know, think that there are nice person. But I
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| 596.0530196612445 602.8217371735589 O1 But then at the end of the day, you know they're just a human being like us. So I'm not really able to glorify them. And like fangirl over them.
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| 603.5910880221056 605.7525174402308 O2 I think most people.
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| 606.2242852909376 607.7953065155581 O2 That fangirl.
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| 608.9157829882664 613.1804764727083 O2 Most people are fangirl uh or fanboy, obviously.
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| 614.6498664050298 620.50587561415 O2 It happens when you are able to relate to a celebrity and well,
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| 620.50587561415 622.62677289656 O2 celebrities usually show.
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| 622.8810880221056 623.7288153458011 O2 Their best
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| 625.1256605277748 630.112050620282 O2 to the you know media. So when you relate to them it's like
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| 630.112050620282 633.8042170117336 O2 they are better versions of yourself.
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| 634.0082989467783 637.3070667574386 O2 Kind of so you kind of look kind of look up to them,
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| 637.3070667574386 637.8966190765664 O2 but I feel like
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| 638.8285932466038 645.1823323039101 O2 how it is for me. I I mean, I I still remind myself and keep myself aware that
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| 645.1959496199967 649.3196640184187 O2 it's not exactly how they are. It's only a version of themselves,
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| 649.3373850386259 656.3476950977976 O2 but I think it's good to look up to someone's work and how they present themselves. And kind of like
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| 658.8150407914202 660.7623652859961 O2 things from them and learn
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| 660.78298382643 665.6718611838921 O1 why I one hundred percent agree with that, but for me it's just I always
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| 665.6718611838921 673.1094289735046 O1 see the more human side of them the most and that's how, as I said, I'm not able to glorify them.
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| 673.2390111559287 674.8216059449835 O1 And my head so.
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| 675.0530855045605 676.8434572477198 O2 That's cool. |
