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Down here, Dallas, seems to me, the police are militant Really. but, uh, Where'd you live up, where'd you live at, I lived in Akron, Ohio. Oh, did you? I'm from , Illinois, so. Oh. How long, how long you been in Dallas? Oh, about eight years. Oh, really? In fact in the eight years I've been here it seems to me it gets ...
I agree. and maybe that has a lot to do with it. Yeah, I, I definitely think that has gotten a lot worse, and you know, I, I think there's, to me there seems to be a little bit of a decline in the family values. Yeah, that's true. So, That's true, But, uh, I'd say my own personal lifestyle has improved Yeah. but that's...
Somebody's at the door. So. Hang on just a second. Okay. off Okay. But, uh, I don't know, that's just, that's one thing I see, I see a lot more, you know, double income families and a lot more like baby sitters raising the kids and things like that, I guess. Yeah, that's true, it's getting more and more expensive to li...
you know, you just don't buy a house, just because they can't get into one, yeah, that's right. Yeah, the ways our tax laws and stuff are structured, you can't ever catch a break until you can get into a house in a lot of ways, Yeah. so. Yeah, that's, that's a good point so, I'm trying to think of anything else that's ...
But I think it's going to be at the expense of the middle class, uh Yeah, so, usually is I think. Yeah. It's, uh, It's hard for me to say. I hope it happens, because I'd be one of those that gets caught. But on the other hand, there's a lot of injustice that needs to be, be changed. Yeah, that's right. Do you work at T...
About eight years, yeah. Um, I'm over at the Center One building. Yeah, so am I. Are you really. What floor? Two. I'm on the seventh floor. Well, How about that. Well, it's a small world. So, so let's see, second floor, you work with, uh, linear. Yeah. Do you. Do you, uh, do you know Alec Morton? Yeah, I've probably se...
so, uh, so I'm pretty familiar with, Are you D A D or something up there? Huh? Are you D A D or something? Yeah Yep, you must know him. His reputation precedes him. Yeah, well, seventh floor. Yeah, T A D, Well, uh, he, uh, boy, he comes up there and gives us all kinds of grief. They, they say it's what makes him happy ...
Um, been with T I like twelve, but I started out in Lubbock. Lubbock is, I don't know, I guess if this is the only place you've lived, Lubbock is a lot different than Dallas. Yeah, flat, dry and dirty, Yeah. Yeah, but the people all seem to be a lot more laid back, too, I mean, here in Dallas everything is just real ru...
Oh, I haven't been up there in years. Oh, I see, well, he went to school somewhere in Ohio, and he's from that area, and, uh, he works over in the Park, Park Central building I think but, uh, I haven't talked to him in a while, but, um, yeah, he, he misses it. He used to go back twice or three times a year, you know, b...
Really. Well, let's see, how, how long are we supposed to talk here? I don't know, I think we ran out of social, social changes to talk about, so. Yeah, well my kids are probably needing me to go so Okay, all right, well, it's nice talking to you. Yeah, Talk to you later. All righty, bye. Bye. Well, Kathleen, do you be...
And what do you think that problem is? And I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that we don't train our teachers very well. And then we put the schools in the hands of professional educators instead of the teachers and the parents. And then, oh, we don't, uh, we put too much, uh, responsibility on the teachers, ...
And then I would provide, uh, use the money that we've paying them to, uh, provide some special help in training and particularly, uh, mentor teachers to work with the beginning teachers and the teachers who may have been at it a long time but have been making the same mistakes for a long time Uh-huh. Sure. Sure. And t...
Have you done anything like that? Anything political? Well, my mother was on the school board. As we were coming up. Uh-huh. And, uh, that, basically, is the extent to which our, our family has been directly, you know, they've always been involved. My parents through the, the P T A organization. And my mother was on th...
I think that's absolutely right. They, the thing that worries me about that is that if you just raise salaries across the board, you're going to be, uh, rewarding people who've been doing a lousy job. And instead of getting the, uh, improvement that we want. Sure. Sure. So we'd have to have some way to, uh, reward and ...
Uh, just something to, rather than throw someone in, into that environment, uh, you know, it Yeah. I don't think student, I don't think student teaching is enough. I thought that maybe something. I think that, at least what I used to observe in student teaching, was that some college kid who might not be all that brig...
Huh. And, you know, the whole electronic classroom idea. I don't know if I I'm in favor yeah, in favor of, yeah, I don't think that's going to work. I think, especially in the younger years you need to have more of the, the person contact rather than just the fact that your machine being fed information to, to learn h...
And, you know, a third of the Texas market with its millions of kids is a heck of a lot of textbooks. Sure. Sure. And then the states that either don't adopt on a state wide basis or don't have as many kids, just have to follow along and take what Texas gets. Right. California is the biggest for elementary schools but ...
All righty. Good-bye Bye Okay, sorry. Wow, that's okay So, tell me about your home. Oh, it's, uh, it looks like a little shot gun house, almost. It's got three bedrooms going along one side and the living room and kitchen on the other. Uh-huh. It's, uh, an older home, it's not new, I like it though, it's big. Oh really...
and we thought about getting it sprayed. I think it was like, I can't remember, I'm sorry That's okay, that's okay. It's big enough for us, though. Uh-huh. We kind of need maybe one more room. We've got two children. Uh-huh, okay. So where do you live at, I mean what part of town. In here in Denison. Okay, see, that's ...
so it's north to me Okay, up here then I say down, I'm really from Kentucky. I was going to say you didn't have the typical, you have a southern accent, Uh-huh. but you don't have a Texas accent. Right. Well I'm originally from, uh, Ohio, Cincinnati, Oh, okay. so I'm uh, familiar with, uh, That area, that dialect. Righ...
Uh-huh. Anyway, my home is, um, I guess it's about twenty-five hundred square foot and I have, uh, four bedrooms at the present. We're busting out walls and things like that. That's what I want to do. How many kids do you have? We have two, we have two. Do you have enough bedroom space, then? Yeah, we'll have enough be...
We rarely go in there, except for to play chess. Uh-huh. We want to make that a bedroom for my stepdaughter and my daughter and, uh, we need the one extra room. Like, like you said, our rooms are too the bedrooms are too small, the living room and kitchen are huge, Right. but the bedrooms are too small. Where you've go...
so. No privacy. No, we don't have a lot of that, yeah. Well, we've got at least two windows on every wall in the house. It, Uh-huh. I'd hate to clean these windows, I really would. I figured I'm going to have to hire somebody to remove our windows and put new ones in that are easier to clean. Ours are the double pane a...
So it's not a new home, it's, it's seen some wear and tear. You know. Ours has too. When we moved in the man that sold it to us had said that he remodeled it, Uh-huh. and he did it hisself, so most of that, by now, is falling apart. Oh. You know, well I mean, it's not just horrible, but like this tile's come loose off ...
The normal tiles, right. right that you put around a bathtub, that would be prettier. Uh-huh. But this looks like floor covering on the wall. It just doesn't look good. Oh, and also they're very heavy and so they tend to come off a whole lot easier. Right, there's one big one that has come off and short of putting nail...
that's one of the things we've been fortunate with, is our, uh, wiring is okay. We don't have a, we don't have enough power, um, or our breakers aren't, aren't powerful enough to take, to, to really help with the load in the house. Uh-huh. I mean we need to redo some, rewiring ourselves but our plumbing is awful. There...
it's always ran just fine, the clock and stuff. Uh-huh. But it runs about ten minutes fast, except for about a month, for about a month the, the clock ran normal. Um. And then the power went off again, lightning or something knocked it out and we hooked it back up and now it's running ten or fifteen minutes fast again....
and he won't even touch electrical stuff. He, I mean, he'll do a little things but he won't do any major rewiring. He says he'd rather pay the electrician to handle it. Right, he'll end up killing himself. Pardon. End up killing theirselves. That's right. My husband, he'll change out a light switch, but that's about as...
I mean when we moved in, we had no idea how bad it was. Uh-huh. It was a wood shingle roof, and we, the first year we were living there, we had to replace the roof. Well he put, which I heard it's a law that you're only allowed to have three layers of shingles. Is it three or five, your husband probably knows. He prob...
Uh-huh. Unfortunately when we were doing that it decided it wanted to snow and hail and rain. Oh, no. And we, and we had, we had almost, I'd say about half of the roof off, and it did this. And, uh, uh, a house full of snow. And a house full of snow, and rain, Uh-huh. and it came down, it did this in the middle of the ...
I had water coming in every light fixture. That, yeah. I had water coming in everything that was in the ceiling, everywhere. And I mean it filled up my light fixtures, because they're the old kind. Uh-huh. And I would go in, and I'd turn on a light in the room, you know and the light would come on and the whole thing w...
and it all went through to her roof and it was coming out of the lights, fixtures. Oh. The fire alarm went off for some reason. It shorted it out, or something. Oh, yeah, that will happen. So she woke up with about six feet of water in her house. Oh, my lord. No, not six feet but, But it's quite a bit, quite a bit, you...
we don't have concrete slab underneath our house, Uh-huh. so it, it got into the carpeting, got into the floor. The carpeting was already awful anyway, but it got into the floor and rotted the floor and made it stink Your house sounds like mine because mine's pier and beam too. Oh really. Yeah. Yeah, they came in and t...
Well you got to redo it the way you wanted it in the end. Oh yeah it, Are you finished with it now? Uh, the roof? Uh-huh. Oh yeah, yeah, it's, it's been done for quite some time. We're really glad with all the rain we've had in the last couple of years that we have a really good roof. Uh-huh, how long have you lived th...
You all did it yourselves? What, uh, the walk? The home improvements. Oh yeah, yeah, he see he does this for a living, Uh-huh. I mean this is what, All right. Well, uh, quite a few and they're varied. They don't, uh, uh, encompass, uh, many handcrafts like knitting and that kind of thing. Uh-huh. But, I do, uh, quite a...
We're, uh, we're about to take the kids to go roller skating and a birthday party and stuff, Oh, so. boy Yeah. That should be fun. Yeah. Fun for them. Yeah. How old are they? Uh, I've got a little girl who's six and a little girl that's three. Well, I think that's better than having that party at home Yeah. Well, uh, t...
And, the the, the skating rink does the rest practically, I guess. Yeah, yeah. Uh-huh Boy, what a help that is. Yeah So, uh, What kind of, how long have you lived in North Carolina? Well, not that long. Really? Uh, just since October. We moved here from Enid, Oklahoma. Oh. Uh-huh. So, uh, we are, we're originally fr...
But, we needed to get back, uh to our older parents. Yeah. Uh-huh. But, I am loving it The weather is divine. Really? Yes. uh, did you like Oklahoma, while you were there? Oh, yes. Very much. Yeah. Um, what did you all do? Well, my husband was with, uh, begins to be much clearer, a lot less back ground noise and Unive...
Yes. So, is, uh, is he working there then or Yes. Uh-huh. He's doing, uh, quite a bit of consulting work and, has been offered a permanent position Oh, uh-huh. and he's contemplating Uh-huh. He, he's liking this free time actually Oh, yeah. It's just wonderful after all, these years of working. Yeah. Yeah. Well, how ...
So we have spread the word a little bit in this part of the country. I see. Uh-huh my wife has talked more than I have, uh, she's talked to four, five different people. It seems like she hasn't talked to anybody from Dallas. In fact, she's talked to a couple of people from North Carolina, I think. Really? Yeah. Uh, wha...
Yeah. so. Yeah. But, uh, some of yeah, I, I've only talked to one or two and they've, they've all been in Dallas. But, she hasn't talked to anybody, in Dallas, yet. Yeah. Yeah. So, that's interesting. Well, you haven't told me, uh, what sports that you are active in. Well, the sport I like best probably is basketball. ...
Well, I think that's, uh, easy entertainment for a, family, too. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they, uh, a good friend of mine that plays on one of my teams, we, uh, that's usually the team I play on with the tournaments and stuff, and they have a couple of kids that are almost my kids age. So they play together, pretty well Und...
So to speak. It, Yeah. Well, it's been raining a lot here so far. So we haven't really had any kind of real heat. I think it's going to be warm enough this afternoon, we were noticing a while ago it's already eighty in, in the house. So, it looks like an air conditioner, day. Yeah. But, It sure does. Or maybe this eve...
Yeah. And, well, lot of times we take seventy-five and, uh, it seems like, seems like that goes through Enid, I know, No. No it doesn't. I've either seen the signs or, Enid is, uh, it's in the northwest. It's, uh, directly across the straight, uh, state from Tulsa. Uh, Um. I know I've seen, the sign somewhere. Sure you...
Uh-huh. Uh. Uh-huh. the bottom fell out. But, Oh, uh-huh. it's beginning to do well. But, there's a lot of, uh, old time wealth there that, has helped to stabilize things. Oh, uh-huh. Uh-huh. So, uh, how you said you've just lived in North Carolina just like, six months then is, Yes. Something like that. And you reall...
The weather is wonderful. Uh, this winter we, it was just, we had so many wonderful days. And, Uh-huh. uh, I, if it got to be forty degrees, I decided it was too cold to, to walk the dogs Isn't it, funny how how, your standards change Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. It really does. My wife and I spent a couple years, uh, doing chu...
it gets to where it doesn't bother, you. Well, foggy and, misty. Really? It, The moss grows, on the trees in the woods up , eight, ten, feet. Uh-huh. Right. Right. Yeah. That's the way it is, was, there, too. Yeah. I think, however, that's like February. Uh, I know it did it all February. And some people said to me, "W...
Thanks so much. Have a, I hope you enjoy, North Carolina. Oh, thank you. And I hope you enjoy, and get through that birthday party. Well, I hope, I live through it. Yeah. I do, too That's what I hope. Okay. Thanks a lot. Bye-bye. Good-bye. All right, uh, how long have they been recycling there in Virginia? Um, actu...
Hello. Uh-huh. Oh, I'm sorry I must have got the other line cut off. Uh, so, they've been doing that it for a while now Uh-huh. and, uh, it, I live in an apartment Uh-huh. and my facilities , there it is, hold on on Uh-huh Hello. Okay, sorry about that Yeah, okay, you're okay, Yeah.
okay Uh, anyhow, they have facilities here in my apartment complex for recycling paper only. Uh, I've been recycling for maybe about two years now and, at another public facility where they have, you know, recycling of glass, uh, aluminum and paper. Uh-huh. Now, Have you, have you cycled, recycled plastic also? No, and...
Uh-huh. I mean there just, it's such a I waste, I just hate to think about it. Yeah, now an additional thing is, uh, where I work they also have recycling there of, uh, all white paper and of, you know, cans also Uh-huh. Uh-huh. so, I mean, a lot of people, you know, right at the vending machines, they have receptacle...
and then, you know, they have someone that comes around and pick it up, you know, every afternoon which, you know, is an excellent idea, at work because I know the amount paper they go through there Yeah, that's neat. Yeah. because, Yeah, that's right. I guess one of the things, I think, that needs to happen is we nee...
I'd like to know, for instance, when I, when they say, uh, plastic, all plastic, what kind of plastic, can you put all together or, is there some reason not to, Exactly. Uh-huh. uh, now maybe they just sort it after they get it and throw out what they can't use, I don't know Uh-huh. but I, I'd be glad to organize it,...
that's great. Now that gives, you a little bit of incentive there. Right, right, Uh-huh. and before even at work, before they started the recycling plan, which at work they've only been doing since January first of this year, I had had everyone in my department recycling and, you know, I would have them drop, right, ...
right I think they, there needs to be a little bit more in the area of, of, uh, advertisement, and letting, public letting you understand, more of what it is you're doing, why you're doing it, how you're it's done and, what, what happens to it because I think that's, that would help a lot. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Right, rig...
Right. I think that's true. Well, I think, I'm that's about my, uh some on recycling Yeah but I, I enjoyed talking to you. Okay, well, I did too. Uh-huh, all right, bye now. Okay. Bye-bye clicks hanging I have, uh, I, well, I used to have the opinion that there that there really was not any more crime in America, in t...
Uh-huh. However, I have been persuaded, lately, I guess, simply by the, uh, overwhelming data that seems to be available that there is indeed a lot more violent crime. More especially where you are. Are you, in Washington D C or Washington state? Well, yeah. No, I am in, I am in Washington D C. Yeah, yeah, I was going ...
Right. Now just to focus on that a minute, I guess, uh, uh, when, uh, previous secretary of, uh, Bennett, I think his name was, became the drug czar, uh, for, uh, President Bush, he was going to focus on it, on this area and do something about it Yeah. and I see that even he was met without, with, with little success, ...
I, I was reading the other day about, uh, Corpus Christi, Texas which has the the highest, I think it's Corpus Christi, that had the highest rates per hand gun death in America uh, per capita. Yeah, I was, I have not seen that, but, uh, I mean the Saturday night special stuff so, Yeah. That, that's what I think about i...
Yeah. And I, and I imagine that it's, you know, it just feeds upon itself when we have this sort of violence in society, people want to, it conditions people to it and, uh, you have to it has to be even, uh, magnified to to attract people's attention. I guess, to have them spend money on something like that. Yeah, you ...
I listened to a radio talk show today at lunch time Yeah. I do not know if you listen to him or not, No. he's on A M, but, there's a fellow that had called in and was lamenting about the, there was an interview done on the assistant chief of police for Los Angeles, the guy under Gates, Oh, yes. and they were just reall...
Yes, yes. Well, I mean, I, I guess what I wanted to say and I stopped, uh, I do not know, I got diverted, was that, that, uh, there's so there's so much of a return from to prison that the rehabilitation programs seem to be a failure. And, and that is not emphasized. I recognize there's, there's over crowding problems ...
the changes come simply by statutory nature. I do not know what it really will take Um. And, I do not know if I have solutions, except, except to, you know, I am sort of a, a, an advocate of, of, uh, of letting people, of having free speech and I guess to curb, uh, television, uh, the violence on television and in the ...
And, yes but, you know, as soon as you start, uh, Well, Texas has, uh, Texas has, uh, has always struck me, I mean I, I, I have lived in and out of Texas, both in the service and, uh, uh, short business stints. And it seems to me they are a pretty, pretty tough law and order state, but that's a, but yet that does not s...
Yeah, because, it's the, I've only made, this is only my third call. Oh. I, I tried to make calls two different days and I couldn't get through. Oh, I know. Sometimes I just I'm, in, it just takes a very long time so, Does it? Yeah, I've been trying to, you know, do that, and, and sometimes I just can't wait that long,...
Well. This is hilarious But I knew as soon as I heard your voice, I thought, Kathy's, it's Kathy Kester Oh. Well, tell me, what books have you read lately? Well, let's see, I, um, gosh, I can't even think. I haven't read any, and you're such a reader, I know that and I, Well, I don't read all that much for enjoyment. I...
I really didn't like it at all. Huh. It was, it was written back in the early eighties. Oh, yeah. And it was all this, this, um, divorced woman syndrome of the, um, Oh, yeah. it was almost like a, a pre-AIDS scare kind of thing. Interesting. It was really an interesting, because I, I right away looked at when it was co...
Yeah, yeah. Um, I haven't, wasn't really aware that she had written anything for, um, adults. I was always, just more aware of her you know, Uh-huh. for her young people, her books. *one utt? Yeah, and she's more famous for that, Uh-huh. but she has been writing for adults also, I'll be darned. and so I thought hey, I...
yeah. You know how that is, and um, Yeah. I wonder if she's written anything really recently, if she's got anything printed, in print. Yeah, she has, because I, I remember seeing a new book by her that was out, Uh-huh. and I think it was a, it was an adult book. I'll be darned. So anyway, Yeah. but that's the last thin...
Yeah. and I went to my mother's, I read a book that I have, should have read when I was probably in high school. I read, um, JANE EYRE. I, No, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. JANE EYRE? No, no, no, no, it wasn't JANE EYRE. WUTHERING HEIGHTS? No, it was, um, uh, PRIDE AND PREJUDICE, by Jane Austen. Oh, yea...
yes. That's what it was, yes. Yes. And, um, you know, I, I didn't know what to expect, except I had heard that, that Jane Austen was such a wonderful novelist, and she really was good. I mean, I was, was very much impressed with the way her plot was put together so, intricately Uh-huh. and, um, and, you know, I just, ...
Yeah. And so I got that for her, and she loved doing that. Oh, I'll bet, yeah. But I remember that was the book. Yeah. And now I, I mean, I think it's around here somewhere, Right I wouldn't be, surprised, I'm just going to have to put it, in the car sometimes and listen to it. yeah. Sure. Oh, yeah. But, um, Well, I r...
if, if I have long periods of time, like Christmas vacation, or, you know, when I know I'm not going to be doing anything for a while, um, Yeah. Oh, that's what I do too. Yeah, and that's about it, because otherwise I'm reading so much for school. I'm, um, I have just started reading a book. Actually, it's for school, ...
Oh, great. um, most of the stuff is on, uh, literary criticism and philosophy, and religion and all that. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. This one is on Johann Sebastian Bach, and it's a, a, a biography, that is really interesting, Oh, great. Oh, that's fascinating. I mean, it, it's fascinating, it really is. Oh. Um, but it's so lon...
Yeah, uh-huh. Oh, that, that would be wonderful to read something like that. Yeah, and he really, this man really shed some light on, um, some, aspects of of Bach's genius and, and, and, you know, the, and more sociological things, you know, like the, the idea that, um, that music, to be a musician was as much, um, o...
Oh, that's interesting. it was just really interesting, if that's, you know, that's kind of what, but I have to not only am, am I reading it to decide whether or not it should be reviewed, but also, um, because the board of advisers for this, um, journal doesn't have, right now doesn't have a really respected name, um,...
I think that's probably a, sort of a thing to do in small colleges, Yes Yeah, but, um, that it, you know, you see, you see a lot of small colleges doing things, like that, Uh-huh. right, uh-huh, Yeah. because it attracts really a, a lot people's interest. That's one way, it's really good public relations for small sch...
Um, well, where, where, for instance, um, a Baudelaire poem that was written, in the French and then has been translated into English by, various people. Yeah. Uh-huh. Oh, I see. And the translations are all so different from one another. All different. Uh-huh. Oh, that's interesting. So it's multiple translations of...
I don't know if I've told you, but, um, this is not on the subject, What do you think about it? Well, I, I feel in light of some of the accidents and so forth that have happened lately, that I think there are some occupations that they should, such as the health field, the transportation field, uh, they're already doin...
But, unless an employer has a reason to believe that his, uh, the work competency of, of the employee is, is hurting the business. Yeah. Right I mean maybe it's, uh, and then it's not a problem. Number one because generally if, if they are involved in that type of thing they are into theft Yeah. and as an employer, I w...
Yeah. I, I, I think they should screen for alcohol in these areas, too because I consider that a drug. I wish they would. I wish they would, and that, I think, is even probably more widely abused by, you know, the masses than, than drugs, so to speak. Right. Right. Right. So. But when you consider they could be driving...
Oh, okay. and, and, you know, our names or our employee numbers or whatever are in a, in a pool Uh-huh. so I've already been tested once when I was hired and, and once since they initiated this random testing program. Uh-huh, uh-huh. But I work with one girl who was tested, her name got, got randomly selected three tim...
You know, so your name came out of pot when they spun the wheel, that's, that's just the way it is. Either just the lucky or the unlucky one, depending on how you look at it. I would, I would rather have it that way, to know that I was chosen at random by a computer than to think that somebody turned me in because I, I...
I don't know what kind of work you do, but there, there would be, even be a situation where you were at a machine and working with somebody that was that way. Yeah, we have, we have a lot of people who work on the line. I'm in accounting, so it wouldn't, you know they couldn't hurt me with their ten key or something, R...
Right. I, I was trying to remember, there was a court case, uh, here where I live, just a few months ago. The city workers, they wanted to, um, the city government wanted to institute the random drug testing Uh. and the city workers, uh, took them to court to protest, saying that it invaded their, I guess, first the, t...
Yeah. Uh, my husband's retired from I R S agents. Uh-huh. However, this isn't a problem that we have either alcohol or drug, Right. and so, we, we, in our minds we're thinking what's the big deal. Yeah, that's the way I looked at it. If I had something to hide, it's one thing, but I'm, you know, you know you don't, so ...
I'll let you start. Do you all keep a budget, and how do you hold to yours? No, I, I never keep a budget. My budget or philosophy, I guess, is spend as little as possible. Well, that's, that's good And, uh and it's, it's sort of always worked. Especially for these times. Uh-huh. Uh, but that depends, you know, on the i...
and you put the cash in envelopes marked for that. So you have one for entertainment and one for groceries et cetera. And then for some reason taking it out of that envelope and seeing it in cash instead of in check form, uh, causes you to realize how much is left. And she even writes down on the envelope as she subtra...
but, uh, my husband got paid once a month. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So you learn to get, That's, that's kind of hard Right. You learn to get through, you know, to the end of the month and, uh, But do you sort of self budget even, I mean, you wouldn't like on payday think, boy, I can go do this and that and this and that. You ki...
Well, that's true. What we're in the process of doing right now is paying off our credit cards entirely. And we're going to go ahead and try to just live on what we earn instead of guessing ahead of what we probably will have next month Well, yeah, we, we tried to, to, to, Oh. or we are paying them off now. Yeah, we're...
Uh-huh, same here. Uh-huh. And, uh, it, it works for me but I can't see that it would work for probably the majority of people. Well, I could say it's kind of, you know, that's, that's good. You you probably have a little extra than you have to have, to, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And so, that, that's the differen...
This is how much you're going to spend It's kind of hard. Well, we, we eat out a good deal at this point. Do you? I, I started subbing just to go on a vacation and saved, all that money so because I knew that you couldn't, you know, spending, five thousand dollars on a vacation, or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Right Right. We...
and you enjoyed it better probably. Yes. Yeah, . And so I think that that's difficult for most people, but then my father was, very Scotch I think so too. and, you know, you never could afford anything although we could afford everything if he wanted to. Um, So if you're out like in a department store and there's a sa...
Uh-huh. You know? Well, we never had too much of that Yeah. but then we never had any really emergencies that, uh, That came up. Yeah. And we didn't buy really new or expensive cars. I think the most, my, we're looking at cars now, uh, we ever spent for a new car was like six thousand dollars. Uh-huh. And they were mai...
So. Well, it, uh, I guess we've completed, do you think we've been here to Well, each time they used to call in and tell me their space is limited and to please, uh, How would you go about organizing a family reunion? Well, for, I grew up in the deep south like south Alabama. So whenever I think of family reunions, my ...
Because I, since I came from, my father has, uh, five sisters and two brothers and my mother has four brothers and two sisters. So I both of my parents had big families, and we always we always got together, just always. Now it's different because I live here and I, you know, when I go home I try to see the families, a...
Well, I come from a very small family. And we planned a family reunion this spring. Uh, where we are from Texas and my family is from Ohio and we met in Florida. Uh-huh. So the seven of us went on a cruise and then went to Disney together. So that's all the family, so planning our family reunion was very easy you know ...
I, I love it, I think it promotes good family values, and it's funny. Uh-huh. Uh, I've never really watched that one. You know, it's funny how you can just get in a mode where you only watch certain shows That's yeah. and, uh, you know, there's, so there's only a few that I, that I like to watch routinely. What kind do...
Yeah. WONDER YEARS, I, I guess that is supposed to be put out at a time when I was growing up or whatever. I guess I can really relate to it, and, uh, it's just a real cute show Uh, I, I guess I like the shows that really have a real sense of, uh, I don't know, honesty or sort of a purity value, I guess. I do, too. I, ...
which I just, I was, I always felt was wonderful Uh-huh. uh, and so many of them nowadays, like I said, I think are just, um Yeah. uh, they, they go after, well, they, like I said, the risque stuff, just I guess they think that's what people want to watch. Yeah, well, there was, but there's a sense of I guess, purity i...