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Uh-huh, that's right. and so neat. Yeah, ours is kind of a little ranch style with a great big, oh, I guess, it's twenty-eight by fifteen front porch. Oh. Next door, we've got an Austin stone. Across the street, the guy, it was burnt out about two years ago and, and the guy moved in and completely redid it's got, oh, i...
We, I tell you what, we got into the fitness center at Methodist and they have a quarter mile track there. So she has started doing that rather than uh, rather than take off. The problem is she's a school teacher and for her, she can't run in the morning. For her to get home and try to run at six o'clock in the night, ...
And we live on one of those blocks that it's a neighborhood watch block. Uh-huh. We all know each other, and the street doesn't go anywhere. Right. If you are on the street, you better belong there. Because it's not a through street. That's right. That's right. And, still, I want to get up early in the morning and walk...
Yeah. And even he was real concerned about that. So, it's not just because you are in Oak Cliff, it's just because you're smart. That's true. That you don't do things like that. It only takes one time. That's right. It's a hard lesson to learn. There's only one crazy out there, you know, to make any difference. Yeah, y...
Yeah. bit. Tell me how yours works. Well, at the I introduced you a little bit to it, a few minutes ago, when I said that we are, uh, we're on the east coast now. Uh-huh. My husband quit a perfectly wonderful job and decided that, well, we both decided we wanted to move to North Carolina. Uh-huh. And so naturally we pu...
That throws the budget out of whack real fast. Well, we actually planned for about one year. Oh, good. Uh, that God because, *listen it never occurred to it never occurred to us that it would take seven months. Really. That was smart. Yeah. And, uh, what we did was just, uh, decide how we had been spending our money ...
Uh-huh. Gosh. And the, so, but we've had budgets that didn't work when our, uh, you know, of our first fifteen years or eighteen years of being married nothing worked Yeah We spent too much money, until our children went to college, so. So, tell me about, Yeah. do you all, uh, have a budget? Well, we've been married f...
Wonderful. Yes. so, I don't know if we, we did a good thing to buy a house or not but at least we've got a place to live. Um, so, now, since, uh, we have a three year old and a two year old now, um, Three and a two year old. Uh-huh. Bang, *one utt?? bang. That's, that's, that threw our budget really out of whack too. A...
Yeah, that's the hard part because when we sit down to make it, we try to make it real spartan and real narrow so we can put a certain amount in savings every week and then it's not really that realistic because we do find that we want to go and do something or splurge for, you know, birthday for somebody or, you know,...
Well, we have so many unexpected things come up so often it seems with, we both have older cars and something will come up and wind up having to spend a thousand dollars, you know, on the car in two months or something, Yes. and, you know, a lot of things like that that really are hard to plan for. And, uh, Well, I rea...
let's see, now, I forget which way we do it. We don't list all the deductions and then we get more money back, you know, at the end of the year, Oh, no, no, no, no. so, that's not a good way to You don't want the government to spend your money. You want to be able, that's what my husband said, so this last year he chan...
Yeah. Uh, and if, and if that's the only way that will, it will make you save and have a little nest egg at the end of the, the year then doggone it that's what you should do. Yeah, because we don't miss it, we really don't, when it's just taking out of the paycheck and stuff, so. But we're trying to put a little money...
Oh, I know we'll have to stay home and mow the yard Oh, boy. Bye-bye. Bye. Okay? Sure, go ahead. What kind of books do you like to read? Oh , I like all kinds of books. Yeah. Mostly, uh, something, I like like true life, not, uh , you know, documentaries or real stories about real people and that kind of stuff or dram...
I like it because there's a little bit of everything in it. Right. You know, that kind of a thing. Uh, as far as like real novels, I haven't gotten into Shakespeare or any of that type of thing. Uh-huh. I wish I had in, in some senses but I don't have time really as much as I would like to, to get into that kind of thi...
They're, I mainly look at the pictures and stuff, but they usually have some good articles in it. Uh-huh. But, uh, I don't know I haven't really found any romance type stuff I like to read. I, I'm more true, you know, uh, nonfiction. Yeah, yeah. I haven't found a lot of, uh, fiction books that I really like but, uh, n...
Uh, I think it was a romantic novel by Danielle Steel or one of those. Really? You know yeah, honestly. Um, I don't do as much reading, like I say, as I would like to. Yeah. working a lot of hours at work and, Really? Yeah, and then, of course, we have a home I know. so it's, you know, a lot time is spent doing things...
Yeah. so it's hard, I, if I have a minute that's what I, I do. Yeah, I find it's real hard, I let papers, newspapers stack up and magazines stack up, if I don't really set aside a time to look or read them. That's the, and, and that's like myself I've, I've, I miss it, because I really find it a very relaxing hobby too...
Uh-huh. In fact, I'd rather read sometimes than watch T V. Yeah, oh, I would too. Kind of train your mind. *sv^2 But I think you get out of the habit, like you say, you have to like kind of set yourself, Yep. Have you ever read, uh, or heard of the book THIS PRESENT DARKNESS? No. That was one of the books I read this y...
See that's the other problem I have. If I start into something and I really enjoy what I'm reading, then I have a terrible time getting away from it too. Uh-huh. I'll stay up until two or three o'clock in the morning, you know, because I'm so engrossed in it and then before you know it, it's time to get up and go to w...
I know what you mean. I like reading late at night right before I go to bed sometimes I just sleep better or something. Oh, yeah, you do you kind of get relaxed, that's true. But, uh, I have a lot of craft books that I have too and, uh, magazines. I like PEOPLE, you know, those things that are about real people. Uh-huh...
what the heck was his name, I'm trying to think. He's one of the, uh, Paroe, *spelling: Perot and um, it was more like, oh, it was tapes and things that they had about him, too. Uh-huh. How he started out as just a salesman and now he's, you know, multimillionaire and that type of thing, and how you have to, uh, be agg...
Um, and I'm not, uh, uh, a planner which I wish I was. Uh-huh. You know, kind of off the wall. If someone says, do you want to do this tonight, uh, and I got a mountain of things to do, it's okay, you know, we do it. Uh-huh, huh. Well, that's all right. I know, I know, but I wish I was more the other way. You're more f...
Yeah. but, There may be some schools you could read about and learn. That's true, that's true. How many people do you supervise? Uh, about twenty. Oh, that's not bad. No. That's not bad at all. No. Do you like your job? Sometimes. Sometimes more than others. But, yeah, I do. Oh, that's, oh, that's important. I've been...
I just got married last year and, um, most of my family's in Indiana. Oh, uh-huh. So, I've only been in Texas three years. Do you like it? Yeah, I do. I love the weather down here. I, I loved, I loved Abilene too. That's what I liked, too, is the weather. Yeah, I know. Except for tornados Boy they, they have storms her...
Unpredictable. Were you here during the hailstorm two years ago? Uh, no. Oh, I've been up here about three. Uh, we were down there, uh, from eighty-six to, eighty-five to eighty-six, no, uh, well, part of eighty-four to eighty-six I should say. Yeah, boy I had thirty-three hundred dollars damage done on my car, a lot o...
Huh. I know things are pretty booming down there. I heard they sold Johnson City though . Yeah, and Colorado Springs. And Colorado Springs? Yeah, I talked to a guy on the phone on this the other day and he was telling me about it. Oh, wow. They just sold it. Amazing. Closed up and moved down to McKinney. Oh, well, that...
How do I feel what? That, that books influence, do you know how to use them in your life or to influence, Uh-huh. I, I feel like it's important for young children to read too. And what you read to them. Yeah. When my children were younger, of course, they were all married and grown and I have grandchildren now, they we...
It's because they can't read. Yeah, it's really surprising how many people graduate from high school, and that I work with Yeah. and people, I mean, I get memos all the time across my desk and things are misspelled and, it's really, It's pretty sad. Oh, it's unbelievable, isn't it? Yeah. A lot of people that work fo...
Uh-huh because my sister worked at the, uh, the Visa some Bank Americard center there. *one utt with a.3 utt2? Uh-huh. So, we were still in college and had she not worked there I'm not sure that I would have qualified. They've come in handy over the years. Yeah. Uh, and they have become, or, also a, a real bother somet...
and it makes it a whole lot easier for bookkeeping. Yeah. But, uh, as far as personal life goes, I guess, I really try to use them as little as possible, uh, I kind of like having them for, uh, gasoline purchases. Yeah, we like to keep one on hand just for emergencies, you know. But, Yeah. But other than that, uh, I, I...
Well, that's kind of the way we were doing it's, uh, Uh-huh. I guess for that very reason that, that, uh, if you're not real conscious of what you're doing, it's just too much by the time you get, Uh-huh. well, if you got a bunch of cards, you get a bunch of bills every month Uh-huh. and for some strange reason those p...
and, I guess that's one of the motivations behind the, the, uh, the, uh, American Express card with T I, Uh-huh. Huh. there's no, Huh? with the American Express card from T I, there's no, um, late fee, Uh-huh . there's no, uh, interest rate, Oh, really? you you either pay the thing off or they come get it. And it's tur...
Oh, yeah. Oh, you can? You can use it like any other card, Uh-huh. and, uh, but, it, you know, you kind of, you know that somebody every month, Oh, I see, huh. and who knows how many people, are looking at those, uh, bills that come in, and those statements, Uh-huh. Uh-huh. you're not the only one. Yeah. So, uh, you wa...
Oh, I do too, I don't even open them much, I throw them out. I don't want to have to mess with it. You know you carry around a wallet full of credit cards, Uh-huh. and, uh, one of these days it's going to all be full. A girlfriend of mine found a, it was a Visa or MasterCard, she found an ad for one in like a GOOD HOUS...
Why do they do that? It's just another way to make money, as far as I can tell. I mean, I mean they get enough, you know, on the interest I mean, they've been, Well, sure. And they, I guess, they figure they've got enough people out there with cards, they're going to get cards at the , twenty bucks a pop. Uh-huh. Uh-hu...
Be charged their eighteen percent interest, Yeah, Yeah. I think you're right. The best philosophy is have them if you need them, but otherwise leave them tucked away somewhere. Yeah, really. Yeah. gets a lot of people in, in trouble Yeah, it sure does. Maybe they're counting on that, I don't know. Well, I guess that's ...
recently with the, I'm not sure if it's more a problem with American families or a problem with the school system. They seem to be burdening the school system more and more with problems, any problems that a child might have, whether it's actually a school related thing or not and, I. I say agree with you a hundred pe...
And, and, you wonder, don't these parents know that teachers talk, and, you know, we do check with other teachers, and other teachers find the same things in this child. Right. And, you know, how do you tell your parent's, the parent, hey, wake up, and smell the coffee Right. But, um, it, it is a problem, and I'm not ...
Right. These are children that are born with low deficit, attention deficit Right. and, gosh, what's going to happen when these kids start coming into the school system. That's really scary water Yeah. But there are, I think there are a couple of areas where the school system can improve, and this is something that I s...
they got thrown right into the total mainstream Right. and, uh, there really needs to be a bridge, some sort of transition for that. Right. So the school systems can improve, both in standing up for splitting classes, you know, having learning learning, slow, slow children in slow classes, but not mixing them with beha...
That's, yeah. I remember I had a college professor who once said that genius is one percent inspiration, and ninety-nine percent perspiration. Yeah. Well, I, not to toot my own horn here or anything, but I, I was graduated from my high school, I was the valedictorian, and I know that there were a lot of kids that were ...
I guess kids do mature at different ages too. Right. That's, and, you know, as a teacher you, you try to make, be understanding that, you know, there are different ages, kids are, is this a, got a kid that just a question of maturity, or is he a problem child. Uh-huh. But teachers are asked to diagnose so much. Um, th...
Uh-huh. And a student with a beeper immediately gets sent down to the, uh, principal. I mean, where, what are the, what could they possibly be thinking. I mean how. It's for drug use. They can't imagine for anything else. Yeah Yeah. You know, it's, it's amazing, but uh, you get all sorts, you get all, all sorts of thin...
Oh yeah, I, I, I was, uh, sitting in the barber shop. I'm an officer in the Air Force, and I was having my hair cut Uh-huh. and the barber got a call while I was there, uh, from his son's school. His son's in high school. And his son was failing gym and, uh, and having trouble, with a few other things. But, you know, i...
I have, uh, a son who's a sophomore in college up in Massachusetts at, uh, Amherst, Uh-huh. and my other son is a senior in high school, and he's going on to Williams. And I mean, they're really super. They're both national level swimmers, Sure. and where we've been very fortunate, but, you know, they had to be held ac...
Yeah, I've had interesting conversations on several subjects not, uh, not just this but different, the different things. Uh-huh. It's amazing how the, you know, people you talk to have some interesting conversations and, uh, it's too bad that all this stuff is just being thrown into a data base, and that none of the id...
My little boy's four and he loves them. Well, we don't have any kids but we like them anyway. Oh, that's okay. How old are you all? Um, we're late twenties. Oh, and you just don't have any yet, okay. No. Well I've got two. Oh, gosh. Yeah, my little girl is three months old and my little boy just turned four. I had his ...
Is it as good as they say it is? It was, it was actually better than the first one, I thought. Good. What's the last movie you saw? GHOST. Oh we were just, when, when the topic came up, we, I was asking my husband right quick, what's the last movies we saw. He said well GHOST and TURTLES. I really liked it. Now GHOST, ...
No, but I've been hearing a lot about it. I we don't get to the video store very often and we don't have cable. Oh, gosh. Well we don't really want cable, it's just, you know, glued to the T V all the time anyway. Yeah. So we get two channels down here. I'm from Kentucky originally, Uh-huh. and we used to get five chan...
you work then? Yeah. Okay, well we get the channel with YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS on it. Okay. And then, uh, I think GENERAL HOSPITAL and that comes on different channel. Yeah, it does. But that's all we get, and that's no cartoons for my little boy. But we've got a V C R and a lot of tapes. Yeah. And, uh, my husband is a...
Yeah, I saw that one. That's good. I, I was disappointed in it just because of how violent it was. Yeah, it was violent. I try to get away from that. My little boy, oh, he loves ROBO COP. And that movie, I have to, I'll fast forward it every time they come to the part where there is, have you seen it? Yeah. The part wh...
Yeah, yeah, I know. But I, I think lately PRETTY WOMAN'S been my favorite. I went and bought the video. I've probably seen it about fifteen or twenty times. Um, my husband bought me, like, um, uh, I think PRETTY IN PINK for my birthday. With, a, wait a second, I will in a minute Kyle, to child in the Sorry. That's okay...
Yeah. It was cute, but, it wasn't, I like the, um, SIXTEEN CANDLES, or sixteenth birthday or, I think, I think SIXTEEN CANDLES was the name of it. Yeah, oh, that was so good. Of course I was a teenager when I seen that and I loved it. I haven't seen it either. Oh, well if you like love stories, it's sweet. I do. Oh, it...
Oh. but he's sixteen. Oh, it's a cute movie. I can't remember his name. He kind of looks like DOOGIE HOWSER. Huh, I don't know. Don't know either. He's got curly blonde hair, he just a little freckly, little boy. Probably know him if I saw him. Yeah, if I could remember the name, I know you'd know his name, because he'...
Julia Roberts is good. Yeah she's, this one, you know PRETTY WOMAN was kind of a light comedy and a romance, Uh-huh. and, and this one was a lot more dramatic. Wasn't it a murder mystery? well, Like, sort of it was like, uh, it was a, it was a mystery. She disappeared from her uh, husband who was abusing her. Oh, okay,...
Oh. And I think, you know, around here, it's all ready quit playing. But I don't, I don't know if it's still playing any where else. Well I, I think, But it was, it was, it was one of those that kept you on the edge of your seat. Real good. I want to see that. Yeah, I seen the, uh, previews for it on T V down here, but...
he shaved the beard off. Yeah, he's, uh, he was a real psycho in the movie. Yeah. It was, it was scary. Oh, I'd like to see that. What about, oh, there was a, we got one back here a while, I want to see WAR OF THE ROSES too, have you seen that? Oh yeah, boy I, I didn't like it. You didn't? No, it was, I didn't like the...
I can't believe they killed them. Or, or who was it Christopher Reeve or Mike Douglas. Might have been Michael Douglas. Oh, that starred in it. *listen Yeah. Yeah, it was Michael Douglas. Christopher Reeve wasn't in it at all? Huh-uh. Okay. Well Arsenio Hall is the one that jumped up and said that I can't believe they ...
and they marked off routes that they could go or something Yeah, that would be kind of hard for us, we've only got one bathroom, I don't know We've got two bathrooms but, well actually, if he takes, my house kind of looks like two trailers put together. And one bathroom is at the end of one side and one's in the middle...
you can get around You just can't go out the front door honey, sorry. Well did you see FATAL ATTRACTION? Yeah, that's coming back, on too I know it's going to be on, on the, on C B S Tuesday night an, and that's kind of what, in a way, you know, how it kind of bothered you, the way it ended and stuff. Uh-huh. That's ki...
THE NEVER ENDING STORY? Yeah. It's a child's movie, but, oh, it's good, I enjoyed it. I love Disney movies. Yeah, I do too Yeah, I mean, they're some of the best of, that are made. yeah. And, uh, well it's about this little boy who, uh, I think he's up in a attic, or some part of school. He got locked in the school and...
And he's trying to save the land from some, ooze But it's really good, I mean it sounds it, it had, uh, Fred Savage in it. No, no, no, no, no. Did you see that movie with Fred Savage in it, though, I don't think so. with, uh, oh, he had, uh, uh, oh it was THE PRINCESS BRIDE. Nope, I didn't see that. You didn't see that...
So do I and a lot of times we'll go to rent a movie or something and, and you're not sure whether it will be any good or not so sometimes we stick with the stuff we've heard more about than, Yeah, well I heard, a friend of mine told me she got NAKED GUN last night and she said that was hilarious. Yeah, now, we saw that...
Now, I seen that, That was good. was that with that blonde, she pretended to be the boss or something. Yeah. Yeah, I rented that one night by myself. I was home alone. Did you see HOME ALONE? Yes, I did, that, that just reminded me of that. Did you like it? There you go. First question, do you own your house? Uh, right...
but, um, for all practical purposes, I guess we hold the mortgage Our name is on the till, Yeah, right. so that implies ownership. No one else has offered to pay for it. That's right. I would not object if anybody did. Yeah, really they could move right into the spare room Yeah. Well, we have, we have had this one for ...
So, there's a lot of, you know, activities, a lot of pluses and common land. But, uh, we thought we were buying at the bottom of the market, you know, it could not possibly have gone any lower and so we were wrong Oh, five years ago. Yeah. Yeah, I think, what, it bottom out about a year later. Yeah, it, well, I mean ju...
Yeah. Besides, it's, you know, it's not, it's not Richardson. Is it? It's still considered Garland. No, it's, it's Richardson. Oh, ok, yeah. It's, Richardson and, hold on a second. to someone in Paul, I can hear you perfectly, perfectly well, I don't want to hear you. You are being rude. Whatever you ask or scream when...
Yeah, well, I hate to say how long that will last too. No, this area up here is, uh, all custom homes, and, it's, Right. I don't think that many by the builder that built this house. And, we were not the first people, the first owners, I think we are the third owners. Uh, okay. It was built by the architect for himself...
He builds eight hundred thousand dollar houses now. I think he got out of the lower end market. And decided, Uh. but, the houses here in, in this class of housing never dropped below two hundred. Oh, wow. Yeah, well but, still I know that this one was built for two ninety nine, which is nowhere near what we paid for it...
Well because, I know our, our little house over here stuck in the middle of, you know, the subdivision is, I think fifty five, so, I think the high end is definitely, you know somewhere there Well, try and think if it was a hundred dollars a square foot No, it could not be, because this house has around thirty four hun...
Yeah, I think those are awful. I'm sorry, I just don't see the designer's, I just see him as trying to squish as much space, you know, as much house into the space as possible. They are huge when you are inside them. Yeah. They are very spacious. They are, you know, I was, I was in one today. It was forty two hundred s...
Yeah, that's true. But, I have been watching these houses go up and I, I don't, well, somebody was telling me, I know somebody who lives back there, I have always questioned the quality of construction and I, I don't think they exceed more than twelve nails per house. Oh. When you watch them go up, you are just amazed ...
and it's just, they are doing such a fine, fine job. We have got three different levels of decking, because, this lot slopes way back down I'm really excited about it, Uh-huh. and, uh, the house is built around the trees. Great. And with these decking that a corporation and a large area for the trees to come up so, it'...
Yeah. Because those things are selling like hot cakes. But, one of the people that was living back there was telling me that there is his air conditioning bill, per month, last summer was in excess of five hundred dollars a month. Oh. And I thought, I can't , and he was talking about how you keep up with the utilities...
But, I like, I like this area and everything that I have been saying, says that it's, Oh, I do too. I think if we had to sell now, we could come close to breaking even But, still, um, it's worth it for the area and for the school and things like that You're in, you're in the, Yes, um, I, I think that Plano has really ...
and, and, uh, I, it's too bad that people have to ruin, a good part thing. Yeah. I guess that's going to happen. Yeah, a really good effort, that's right, yeah. But, uh, Well, I was thinking about the other day, um, when I, when Dick and I were, oh, many, many years ago when we were first married and he was in graduate...
I mean, it's wonderful that she's doing it and it, but wouldn't it be much nicer if we all did it, because her effort would have really, um, really, uh, been a good example for all of us. And yet, you know, and we were just sort of talking about it at the time. And here we are, you know, now we're doing it on a, city w...
or, um, and I think she was encouraging other people to do it if they would. But I remember her saying yes, I have a trash can for this and a trash can for that, and a trash can for the other thing, and I thought wow, that's, that is wonderful, that somebody does that. You, you have to really want to do it, though. Yea...
Yes. and, People, I don't know, they find fault in everything, rather than say this is a good effort. Rather than work with it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It's, it's, I I know what you're saying, kind of people like that Well, sure it is. *ba Well, it's for everybody's benefit. I mean, it's, it's not, so maybe we don't ...
Yes. Yeah, Uh. I agree. When, We've never had much trash, because while I was raised in a big family, and, and Gene's family wasn't big, Uh-huh. but they weren't rich Yeah. and they had to, to recycle. Sure. And, and, you know, the well, they didn't, they just used things, they didn't, throw things away, before they we...
and, Yeah. Well, I know, um, I guess I got a good example from my mother, because she was always very, very conscientious about recycling things, and she is to this day, and, you know, I mean, she'll even, Uh-huh. um, if she, for instance, she, she would take the waxed paper out of a cereal box and use that for, you kn...
I mean, they I think they give me a hard time, Right. but I think they know that that's, it's the right way They've picked up the Well, they do, and when they actually get out away from the home, and have to do their own buying of things, and then they say, well, hey, you know, mom used to do this and dad used to do th...
over in Europe they don't have the kind of waste we do here. No, that's right. You, you've got to be in a country, even in, in Mexico, you don't see things thrown away, like we do here. Uh-huh. Right. Yeah, yeah. I mean, what we throw away is, is a ransom, a king's, ransom to most people, Yes. Uh-huh. and I, and even t...
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. No. Uh-huh. This is, uh, I, this is why I thought Jimmy Carter was never very very you know, people didn't like him. Because he tried to say, turn off the lights conserve this, do that. Yeah. Yeah, right, do those little things, yeah, And, and, uh, the I, nobody wanted to hear it. that make a lot of dif...
Uh-huh. Or you have to grow up with it being important in your life, um, oh, oh, um, before the message really takes hold sometimes. Uh-huh. And, um, I don't know, it's, uh it's just really interesting to me how now more aware of things I am than I, even myself, than I used to be, a few years ago. Right. I mean, like I...
I, I think the big question too we're looking at is, would you be willing to pay more for a product, so it can be recycled. Yeah. Well, I think that may, that's kind of what it's coming to, I'm sure. That's, that's right and, and, uh, do we have to wait until all the landfills, are full and there is nowhere else to put...
And it's sad. Well, Hal, what's, uh, what's crime like in Dallas? Well, it depends where in Dallas you are. Uh-huh. There are certainly parts of town I would not want to live in. Yeah. Because it's the situation it is very location dependent Uh-huh. and there are parts of town here where, when they talk about the night...
the only crime we really see is, uh, just the kids being malicious. Uh-huh. You know, and I think most of that is because their parents aren't around. That make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That, uh, the, what they call the latchkey children. Yeah, something like that. No one's, you know, or, or fathers are just missing, you kno...
and, uh, the main crimes within the suburb here are the, the theft crimes. A small number of assaults, Uh-huh. uh, well, if we have one murder a year that's probably as many, Yeah. but then, you know, you go into Dallas and they are, unfortunately uh, having murders at a rate greater than one a day. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah,...
Yeah But, on the other side of it is it's, it's basically the, the problem is within the, in the society and the society's views Uh-huh. and, well, uh, since now I'm in my mid-forties, when I was in grad school or when I was an undergraduate growing up in a more rural area I thought, you know, crime was, was reasonably...
That make sense? He's one of the big proponents of that. He gets on national television and, and says that, you know. So it's, uh and he was a a District Attorney before, and a prosecutor before becoming, becoming mayor. So that's a really you know, it's a different viewpoint. I, uh, You know, in a sense I don't, I'm I...
they let this person who had ruined it uh, become, well, die or whatever. Uh-huh. I mean they probably became weakened physically and other things to the point that their life expectancy was real short, Right, yeah. but now we tend to believe somewhere in the health care system otherwise, we need to take care of people...
Uh-huh. You know, so that, but that was interesting, you know, I, I don't, crime is one of those things that's, uh, I, I don't know, you know, the drug culture, the, uh, the, uh, you know, I, I see it with the kids in the neighborhood just stealing things, not thinking anything wrong with it. Yeah, well, some of that, ...
That's very true. And so they Uh-huh. in the, there were the sixty-four thousand dollar question shows in the fifties, but nowadays, there's so much on TV where, where people seem to have the idea they can get something for nothing. Of course uh, I work for lawyers a lot Uh-huh. and I see, unfortunately, we have this w...
Yeah. That, I think that, uh, the drunk driving has just actually, just caught on. Uh, and I, I, I really, uh, Uh-huh. my father was hit by a drunk driver when I was in high school Uh-huh. and, uh, that was a very, uh, that, that was an awful three years afterwards. You know, of recovery and the difficulties and, uh, e...
Uh-huh. and they came and questioned us. Yeah. You know, and, But, that kind of shows how our attitude toward drinking and driving was, uh, misplaced for years Right. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. that, you know, it was an acceptable social behavior. Yeah, very much so. Yeah, that, those are some important points. Yeah, I, that's, t...
and it's been humid. I don't remember a year in a long time that the humidity has stayed up this high for, uh, this late into, uh, well, it's not really late into the summer, but the, the humidity has hung around all of June. Yeah. Are you native to this area? No, I grew up in Michigan, But I've been, I've been in Texa...
and it just tried to rain, I mean, I was coming in from my car just a few minutes ago and it was trying to rain which seems strange to have it raining in July. Yes. Normally we don't have too much, uh, humidity or, or, uh, rainy time when it's past June. Oh, that's right, that's right. I can remember it not, it's reall...
almost every day was cloudy and I, you sort of forget how much it did rain and coming here and then it didn't rain, it was just wonderful. Well, yeah, see I, I lived in, uh, Ohio mainly. I lived in, uh, Pontiac just a little while before I came down here Oh, yeah. and, you know, so many times when you were trying to sc...
Yeah, yeah. You probably know where that is because I know where Pontiac is, Anyway, yeah. What brought you down here? Oh, a teaching job. So you teach in Plano schools? Yeah, I did, I did for a while, uh-huh. So, I'm home with, home with two children, So, Oh. Okay New career. New career Okay. but, uh, anyway, so that ...

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