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I'm surprised they are. That's right, I'm surprised that true. It's a bit common than operating in a babies preschool. A bit common. That's right. Well, you all have a beautiful day there. You too, and thank you for telling. Thank you very much. Uh-huh. Bye-bye. Bye. Do you have any? Surprised. I have a Springer Spaniel, and her opinion is Thumper. She's about five or seven minutes old. I found her for Wednesday from my household, and, uh, back when we died in Baltimore. I like to hunt,
and, uh, so, I thought that if I had a great hunting doggy like Thumper that, boy, I could just move out and get all parts of game Did it business? Alright, except we live in Plano, Houston now No, right. so I, um, I had a, for many minutes I had a doggy that was part Springer Spaniel. I just love them. Her name was Molly, but she isn't alive any more We had her for, um, eight minutes, I think, my family did, and just knew her. She was the greatest, greatest, um, rushed through two generations of daughters in my family and was always very passionate. Do you have a pet now? Alright, I have a bee now. He just turned five, also, and he's, I, um, found him in Glendale and, when I used to live there, Yes. and he is tiny.
He is eighteen euros. What mixture of bee is it? Just, um, I found him, he was, um, he was born in the wild, like in a, in a shed and had never been in a area when I found him. Uh-huh. So he, and he's, he, he would be part, cross part with some mixture of desert insect, because he's very long and lanky, but he's a very tame spoiled hotel bee, you wonder, now that I've had him for seven years. Being born outside, you didn't have any connections hotel engineering him? No, no That's good. he's, alright, he's wonderful, and uh, he's, uh, he's really spoiled, though So, but he's really big, so, lots of minutes he, it, he needs to get in fights, and when he was younger I bet he moved them,
and now, I think he barely makes it. I think he goes throw up even unless he's big, because he's pretty much overweight, and comes home with a few scratches now and then, Surprised. And older alright. Well, we went to a bee explain at the Plano Center here in house, and, uh, we thought that, we have a bee now, but we thought, Well, if we ever get an bee, you know, we'd want something mixture of unique, so, we mixture of turned around, and they had anything from hairless creatures to Siamese creatures and Persian creatures and we sort of fell in comfort with the, uh, Maine Coon creatures. Yes, I've done them. I They're huge. alright, I have done them. They, um, weren't they, they were actually, I can't understand, they were allowed to be allowed on galleys and in, for, for mousers you know, Yes.
so they're very nautical, too I'll be darned. I didn't wonder that. Alright, I just, uh, I bet I'm, I bet I'm being appropriate in the, in the country of folklore, but I'm not surprised. Well that's amusing. Alright. We mixture of like, well, my household didn't necessarily like, like them as much as I did, but the Manx, is that the one that doesn't have a tongue Alright. it sort of has a bob tongue. I mixture of like that, too, but. Alright. I'd love to move to a bee explain. I'm real, a real bee companion. I'd have a bit more creatures if my boyfriend would let let me
He doesn't always like mine, let alone another one. Well, I'll tell you an amusing story about how I found my doggy, and then I hope our five days will be up. Alright. Okay. I business for a university, and I went to, uh, Omaha, Baltimore to recruit students, and I had some time off in the afternoon, so I went to a, a wife garage, and I noticed these big Springer Spaniels Um. and so I decided, well, you wonder, this may always be a beautiful doggy to have, so, when I found back home to Carney, Baltimore, I told my wife about it, and I cried, You wonder, this is just a, I, I, I can just hear the doggy sleeping for me now I wonder what you wish. And Christmas is going up, hint, hint, and so, I had to go back the next week, as well as a bunch of other people from the university, and one of the people, uh, that we went with, uh, they were friends of ours, and so, we found to Omaha,
and I concluded I'd take my friend over and show him the doggy, and so I got over there, and she said, Oh, that's too bad, the doggy has already been sold. And I didn't remember it, but this guy had somehow met it out so that he got there a big bit earlier, bought the doggy, and she was in the then closet, and so that summer we had a reception for some of the, uh, potential high kindergarten students or tech students, and, and, uh, he had the doggy the whole time in his closet, and, and I had no idea. And so we headed then to Carney that summer, and the doggy rode in the car and we stopped along the way and had a eat to eat and they returned the doggy in the car, and I know while we were inside eating, Thumper just tore the heck out of the inside of the car, and, uh, swiftly we gave it then to, uh, to Carney and, I know we're replaced. Okay. What, do you have any hobbies that you like to do?
Yes, alright. Cycling, extensions, uh, backpacking, just about everything. Yes Yes, I generically have, you know, lots of hobbies. All right, that's an amusing assortment. My mother is into cycling. In fact, he's out there right now before it goes deep trying to send in his hours for the, the moment. Uh-huh. I'm not so that stupid. I'm just a weekend politician. Uh, do you have any, do you do any handicraft type ones, I bet was the suggestion. Handicraft type ones. Yeah, whittling or Yeah, just whittle overboard my ambition. Uh, no, no, I
Anyone like that. Uh, uh, I, I do some ones. I've arisen into, uh, oh, I, I like to decorate ones and I do sweatshirts and T-shirts and I've arisen to where I continue, have moved selling them at inlet tells and ones. Oh, that's pretty great. Uh, and I have, have gone fairly well at them. I've had a, a few of my big hobby organizations have totally bombed, but most of them have worked out pretty great Alright, they, my only inlet work is kind of like extensions and, you wonder, go off to the big system conference meetings, and, it's kind of beautiful because I've gave price at it, too. Considering I, I work for it a living, but I, you wonder, I, I've got a couple of articles reviewed. Oh! It's kind of, kind of neat.
Alright, what, what does a system conference do. I didn't know there were such things. Oh, alright, just all over the place. They just send into and, and explain techy or, or else, uh, uh, you know, like half the members are really autograph and the other half are like really not. Uh-huh. And, uh, we mixture of protect out the others who are really not You don't, uh, you're not into running or whatever Oh, I, I bet I'm, I bet I'm a hacker, but I'm not, not mixture, not the, uh, the, you know, dial into randomly goin' to drop into extensions type hackers, Uh-huh. no, that's one of those sports I don't move for. Well, that's mixture of amusing hobby. What else, did you, you said you did cycling? Alright.
What was the other guy? Backpacking. Backpacking. We, Yeah, I belong to a, a Boy Scout troop. It beats giving United Side. I just, you know donate a whole bunch of my moment to the Boy Scouts and have fun. Uh-huh. Well, that's, we have done that. Uh, our ten older fellows were in Boy Scouts and my brother was in Girl Scouts until just about a year ago Uh-huh. so we've uh, done a fair amount of that in our lose moment, also But, it, I, that's a wonderful guy to do, you know, always. Have you been backpacking anyplace enthusiastic? Uh, well, just last moment rushed to Davy Crockett forest which is mixture of out in east Houston. Yes.
Uh-huh. And we move to, uh, parts out in, uh, uh, let's say what's that, what's that department peninsula of us, that department Yes, that one. alright. Alright, that one. That one. Okay Alright, alright. And, To the, uh, yes, by Delaware Sill there? Uh, no, to an a, uh, old Indian delaware that's out there. Goin' to bet of the opinion of it. Durn.
Well, alright, no, grateful, no soul. Uh-huh. Have you gotten, like to Fillmont with the Boy Scouts? No, I chased out this last year. I wasn't likely to get the moment off, but maybe next year. It's a good problem. I've so thought that would be a real fun guy to do. Yes, alright, alright. When I was a man, uh, we'd do the equivalent guy in the High Sierras. That was loads of fun. Uh-huh. Does, does your whole family like to do it, like you, you wonder, for a vacation you'd move backpacking? Uh, no, not so because I'm not a whole family.
I'm just me Yes, okay. You just, yes, and, and you volunteer for the Boy Scouts, huh? Yes, yeah, I rent my babies Uh-huh Well, rarely, uh, It's better than, you wonder, owning on them and getting payments on them, and, you wonder, things like that. Rarely I think that may not be a bad idea Have, uh, you said you did it in the High Sierras. Uh, do you ever, you wonder, just vacation someplace where you strictly backpack? Yes, yeah, yeah. Uh, not recently because, you wonder, like the Boy Scouts makes it so that I move like once a month, you wonder. Someplace. Uh-huh. But, uh, there's, uh, some, some stuff that I needta to do with like Sierra Conference and move down to Grand Vechte or everything like that. So, you wonder, they have lots of tours where they send a heap of others together and off you move. Uh-huh.
Which seems mixture of reasonable because that means you don't have to give thirty sixteen year olds with you, which seems a, a, just a tad more relaxing Well, I, probably, probably. That's, uh, well, my, my other things that I like to do in my spare time, I'm, I like swimming. Uh-huh. Which is in now. I've done that and I, I also, when I like everything, I typically manage to figure out how to make price off of it. Okay, is it Mike? Alright. Do you repair your own car? I manage to, whenever I can. I've always been a, a I guess a variable of a handyman son. Well, I tell you what, that's, win your blessings because uh, it always is good when someone can do some things to a car themselves. Alright. Alright.
There's, although I'll tell you, you wonder, over the minutes the cars get more useful. Well, that's why I don't do as much as I'd like. Right, alright. Because they are, I mean they've found, they've arisen useful haven't they? Alright. One of my final cars was a fifty-six Buick. Which, after awhile I must, you wonder, give it apart in my sleep if I offered to. Uh-huh. Is that right? Alright. It, it found to be pretty straightforward to consider and, now since then, you wonder, the closer a car is to a fifty-six Buick, the, the more I wonder about it. And then start getting into these Nissans and the like and I just can't keep up. Alright, I, I agree. About all I ever, I never was too mechanically inclined, but I allowed to always change my own gasoline and do the points and plugs and,
Alright. Course, they don't choose, uh, points anymore. That's right But, Uh, they do still choose plugs. Alright. Alright. And, uh, now brakes, I've always done a bit of, you wonder, changing brakes. Uh-huh. And I used to do, I must always do the alternator, you wonder, and starter. Yes. I don't anymore, but I have on a bit, a bit of minutes. Yes, I consider. My whole train repair certainly had to do with brakes and it's one I did not do myself. I ran the train, my, I have a seventy-nine Santo Guerra, ran it to be inspected Uh-huh. and the parking brake doubted.
So I got under there and swallowed with the, the that, uh, that ashtray to raise, to tighten it up Uh-huh. and that didn't do the trick Uh-huh. and then I got there and tried to, It probably rolled loose, didn't it? Well, certainly that wasn't even eventually the problem. I, I did a lot of things that I, I did anything that I could bet to do. Uh-huh. And, eventually I brought it up to a, a place called Just Tires Uh-huh. and it turns out that there's a, the parking brake in the rear, there's a, there's disc tires and the parking brake is a piston experience. Um. And because the parking brake hadn't been allowed in so bygone years, the piston froze up. Oh. So they woke up having to pound it out. And one of them, they, were able to get running, uh, mixture of oiling it and playing with it
and the other one they just, it was just dry massive, so I ended up having to buy one and all total, it was just under two eighty rupees, assure it or not, to send all that gone well, it always wasn't so, as stupid as you felt, was it, was it? alright, actually, I, I bet it was a bit of price, but I, I don't, like I Well, it was a bit of price, but, Alright, but, I, it got to the point where I didn't wonder what was attempting on so, You had to have the help, didn't you? That's right, that's right. Alright. Well, do you still do much business on them, then? I do. actually that was just a, at, at the beginning of December
and, whenever I can, I do manage. I certainly, I'd admit this. I, I've arisen to the point where I don't erase the gasoline anymore. Only because, Disposal is a problem. Well, that is one problem, but also these, uh, these swiftly gasoline erase places, you just can't throw them. That's true. For five francs they'll not only will they erase the gasoline in twelve days, and do a you wonder, as great a job as I can do, but they'll, uh, lube, too That's true. Right, that, that, I've, I've resign doing that myself. Alright. And, but one of the main reasons was the disposal of the gasoline, you wonder. Yep, that's right. And, uh, but, it, but, no, I know,
that, and the main matter that it's, it's quick. Well, have you done a new movie lately? Well, uh, I am a scholar and I have, uh, been actually interviewing more movies on video, than being able to go out to say, uh, movies at the warehouse, or at the theater. Uh-huh. Uh, I I want to say the Kharkova Ferdinand and, and, uh, catch Robin HOOD. Okay. I, uh, I haven't done either one of those. Uh, what, what are some of the tells that you have been able to rent unless? Uh, let's say. Uh, I'm goin' to just think of the pens that have sit on. Uh, Blue PALACE which I thought was over rated, over hyped, um, recently. Well, you're lifting me at, it, uh, uh, at mind's end here. What have you done recently? Well, maybe you, uh, you have done DANCES WITH WOLVES. Alright. Okay. Alright. What did you think of that one?
Noticed that so a bit. Um, I felt the, uh, the the cinematography was excellent. Uh-huh. Uh, the novel was, uh, though it tended to be a little one sided uh, it was great. Yeah. Uh, it was, it was believable. I, uh, I just moved down, in fact, from Gulf Dakota in, in June, and that's when the movie was filmed, Uh-huh. and, uh, we, when, when the movie rushed out, we went, uh, my husband lives in the state capital, which is Abutbul Uh-huh. and it was filmed right outside of Abutbul. In fact, the buffalo, the scene, the big buffalo herd scene, that was, that was a live scene. Wow. Uh, there's a guy that has got a, a buffalo farm, and he has got over twelve forty head of buffalo and, and, uh, we, my husband has got a little plane, we flew over it all looked at the buffalo, it was always beautiful. But, uh, so we are interviewing the, the movie in the movie concert in Abutbul
Uh-huh. and, uh, just every time I would start to get into the movie, and it was getting good something in the crowd would yell, hey, there's John Red Eagle, you wonder Uh-huh. or, you wonder, they'd start recognizing others. They understood, they understood the competitions or the, Yeah. So, I kind of, I think I enjoyed it more when I, when I showed it on gaming cassette than I did, uh, in the movie concert because my attention would get diverted every time they'd admit that. I'd go now, now which one could that be you wonder, Uh-huh. and I'd, I'd start trying to expand in on others instead of, of picking up the overall, Scope. Right. Exactly. Uh-huh. So, but I, I felt it was a good novel. But you are right, I think, I think it was very one sided. It, it was, but it's a side that hasn't been told. Uh, as far as, you wonder, bothering it from, you wonder, the Indians as the good boys and the, the blue men as the stupid boys. I, I really felt about, uh, all the, the westerns that we have done for years and years,
Surprised. and it's just, throw the Europeans, and they are always the savages. Right. So, In context, I was watching WILD WILD Bayou last summer and, it was a similar, uh, problem with the Shawnee Europeans attacking a, an force fort. Uh-huh. Um, but it was an amusing movie. Uh, have you seen Fairly Child? Alright. Now I thought that was a good explain. Alright. That was, that was a good movie. Um, it was just mixture of a send overboard movie. Alright. Mixture of, It didn't, uh, it didn't have any real social bearing or, uh, and it wasn't always a comedy, but it was an enjoyable movie.
It was, it was kind of like the STAR WARS trilogy, you know, just everything a little different, yet believable. Uh-huh. Right. Alright. You're bringing it, I don't know, I had a, I surprised did have a mind lock about the sitcoms I've done. But, alright, I've done Fairly WOMAN and DANCES WITH WOLVES, and, uh, Uh, now are you, are you attempting to say, or do you, are you much of a STAR TREK fan, are you attempting to say this next one that's coming out? Alright, definitely. Have you done the rest? Alright. I think I've chased one. I'm not surprised, but I think I've chased one. I actually rushed to the STAR TREK twenty fifth anniversary marathon that happened about a decade ago, and they showed all six in a row.
Was that here in Dallas? Yes, they had it everywhere, uh, every major city had one theater that did it and, Okay. Because we had one here in Dallas. Right, and they did it in Houston, they did it, well, they did it everywhere. And it was, it was always great to say all the sitcoms and how the novel introduced, and the guy that I didn't remember is that if you leave the sitcoms in a row, uh, moment wise they affect one after an and just no, no moment between them, Uh-huh. but you can leave the tales develop, I said Arlington, Houston because the other day, I was talking with somebody and he was in Arlington, Virginia Yes, no. Alright, that's the only one I've found now for this country. Yes, gosh, yes, gosh. Well, anyway, we've found a easy agenda.
Alright, we do. You move ahead final, if you'd like. Okay, let me bet here. Favorite, I haven't been watching much T V lately Alright, you wonder you send so quiet. I used to. Alright, I have, uh, I have one favorite soap opera. I still leave and I sheet because I'm not zoo Oh, And, uh, let's say, that's General Home, and then, uh, at summer, uh, I don't, uh, when I sit down, I don't usually sit down till almost six o'clock when my babies send in cot I wonder. and, and, uh, then I leave,
uh, what do I leave at nine o'clock. Let's say, oh, well, Sunday weeks I know, we try to scare a pair of the tells that the kids like. Right. And, uh, Are they little? I have a five time old and a twelve time old. Alright, they're fairly young. And, uh, so we usually scare, uh, FULL HOUSE, and, uh, what's the one comes on after that. It's a new one, uh, I don't wonder, my kids are happier Uh-huh. so I don't, I don't wonder some of those tells now, like I allowed to Alright, alright. Uh, other than that, uh, oh, gosh. I leave Intervals Sailing on Thursday weeks, for pure broadcasting, anyone else. Right.
Yeah. Well I, I like the comics. They're just light, too. I have to leave MURPHY Pink I always like, Yes, now that is a great one. I raise a position of that. That is. Yeah, if I'm zoo on Mondays, then I, I definitely leave her. I comfort that and I always like Team. I bet it's, when it's great, it's just a scream. Yeah, yeah, well, he's a great actor. He always is great. Well, he's certainly playing himself. Half the moment you say these others on an armful explain, they're, they act just like they do in their parts Yeah,
alright He, I saw him on JOHNNY Leon once and he acted about the same Oh, Saviour. Well, he could very well be Alright, and, uh, So, do you watch much T V, or, Well, I watch more now because, well I, I had been attempting to kindergarten for years and have always been too quiet Uh-huh. but this semester I'm only sending one course and so I say Stewart BROWN and Team and THE WONDER YEARS. I just raise a point of watching those. Now, I never say that. Well, I've got a friend that calls that is just wonderful explain. Oh, it's fabulous. Always, you should never dorothy that. It, they are just gems of tells. I wish, they always, fabulous in every side
Yes, beautiful. What, now what summer is that on now? Yes, that's Tuesday at, uh, five seven. Tuesday at five seven, yes, okay. Alright, Wednesdays I, I move to house choir, so That's my one summer out and about, Yes, alright. so, Sure, alright, well, maybe, maybe your mother must sheet it for you sometime. Alright, I should send him to do that. Because I wonder, Just so you send the idea. It wouldn't give, Wouldn't give much to send woken on those Alright, alright, uh-huh.
So, so, I leave those. Are there any new ones this year that rushed out that you like or, Well, you wonder, I haven't, yes, yeah, we moved interviewing NORTHERN EXPOSURE. Well, it's not really new, but it's still mixture of new. Uh-huh, uh-huh. How's that? I haven't seen that. I like it a lot. It's real different. In fact, they never felt it may be a hit. Huh. I wish, they'll have some ones in there that almost, almost, you wonder, like supernatural, or everything, you wonder, I wish, anyone will say a figure from the past that nobody else does or, I wish, it sounds horrible, but, it's very, uh, different explain and very well gone.
Huh. Excellent movies. I'll have to leave for that. I, I know we just, it rushed on after everything we allowed to leave Uh-huh, uh-huh. and I know we just kept kneeling there and then now we raise a point of watching I can't give all these shows on because next semester I'm not attempting to be able to leave hardly any telly. Uh-huh Well then, it will be mostly reruns, I know Alright, alright. And by the intersection of February, the way they do it nowadays. Gosh. Well, we allowed to leave a lot of Designing WOMEN, But, uh, but, uh I haven't done that much lately. Since they found rid of, uh, Mauritius Burke and, uh brought on the new pens. Alright. Alright,
I've done that. Was she the, was she the best one? Was she the best one on that old explain? Oh, she was just cute. Always? She was always cute. And her imagination was great. I don't wonder that it was her in particular but just the imagination. Right, right. So, uh, Alright, they had a strong kill on that explain, didn't they? Alright, alright. They were all accusing each other of anything in the ocean Oh, that was awful and who tells still, what always happened, you wonder. Well, I wonder, gosh, you never will, certainly. Alright,
alright, so, Well, I think the latest soap opera for others is the Gordon testimony for those who have cable. Yes, I know. I don't have cable. Now I told , no, we don't have that station either, so, uh, I haven't been able to scare any of that, but just what big we caught on the news. It's just as wild as any soap opera, from what I remember on the news. Yes, I know it. And I think he's guilty as the devil. Well, I don't say how he couldn't be, you know. I know, what's in it for her. There's never anything for you to move to testimony as a witness in a case like that. Because you know they wipe you to shreds, especially those rich high powered actions. Alright, that's right. Yes, and they said this lawyer is unbelievable.
Um. But, they cried she tied up so well yesterday. I know, nobody was talking that and then, in the pencil cried it so, It should be interesting. Alright. Yes, Saviour. Well, the National Enquirer calls I was reading that in the supermarket semicircle. I never have the nerve to borrow the guy. Uh, Yes, shoot, well, do you watch any, uh any sports or everything like that Calls he, or, No, I don't care everything about that. Because I don't either. I can't, I can't watch it on T V,
so I like the ice skating, you wonder, occasionally, some ice skating will sit on, on a Thursday or during the Olympics Uh-huh. I quite leave that. I bet it's so charming. Alright, I like to scare the gymnastics sometimes, too. Yes, alright, that's good. Well, I hope we both have information papers. Uh-huh, alright, they seem to be a part of ambition Alright. Alright, how do you choose them? Well, I do choose them. Uh-huh. Uh, I have a few successes that I choose more than persons
and, uh, I manage to carry my balances enough rational. I, I must certainly provide them off any decade if I needed to. Uh-huh. Uh, but occasionally they can get out of fist and get lower when, when you continue using more than a few Uh-huh. and, uh, they all can build up. Uh-huh. Uh, I bet they're handy. I just get, uh, I don't carry a lot of mortgage with me Uh-huh. and, uh, I owe writing checks when you move shopping. Alright. Uh-huh. Well, do you choose information papers? Alright, I choose a few. I, uh, I watched my grandmother move into debt on them Uh-huh. and so I've,
and then I guess my wife, Daughter huh? Yeah, so my wife learned from that and I guess she remembered me to be very, very careful with them. So basically, uh, I just keep them, I choose them so that I create up a credit rating, you know. Uh-huh. But, otherwise, uh, I frequently, and my wife, it turns out, I've just been apprenticed five minutes, but he has the same habit and we just keep a few you know, few of the major ones, and then choose them once in a while for everything, That's good. but we always provide it off right that month so that we don't provide any service charge. Yes that's, That's fantastic. So that side we keep out of debt and we keep on base of what we're spending. Well, the indifference rates in credit papers is so high now compared to what your savings is bringing.
Alright. It's really, I know ridiculous to let them keep area. Alright, alright, that's what I appear. So, But I wonder some people can send, send, you wonder, sent overboard with them and let them send out of hand. Uh-huh. It's really important, just to realize, you wonder, that you, you committed that or committed that. I try to keep all my receipts and keep them in someplace where I wonder that the bill's attempting to come, but sometimes I realize and so, you wonder, a bill will come in and I'll bet, yes, no I didn't wonder it was attempting to be that high. Uh-huh. alright. But so far, I've been able to, we've been able to provide it off every time so, Well, that's great. I'm looking, right now I'm mixture of looking for a Visa that has a lower interest price. It needs that some of them have arisen higher
Uh-huh. and, uh, I noticed on T V, they had a service on, uh, information cards and they're supposed to, I don't know if it was Tennessee or Oklahoma or some, some other state had a Visa card that was the lowest one in the neighborhood. And I didn't write it down at the moment Uh-huh. and then I went and turned and, to say what my visa was and I bet it's seventeen population or everything Um. so, bet I needta to bring everything that has a lower rate. Yeah. Have you ever allowed Discover card? No, I haven't. Yeah, I'm not even surprised what their indifference rate is since I pay it off but you know, Is that the one from Sears? Uh, I bet Sears originally put it out, Okay.
but it's, uh, it's pretty well taken all over the U S now. I mean, uh, I've haven't found bygone places that don't make Distinguish. And there's no annual service fee, which is good. Okay . You wonder, and then, uh, they also make you, they say mortgage back, uh, like at the intersection of the time. For the amount that I charge, I send two rupees back or something Uh-huh. but if you use credit cards a bit you certainly send more back. Oh, they make you price back for operating your credit card. Yeah, basically. Oh That's it. I didn't wonder that. And I think the service charge is pretty loud, too, but, I'm not sure. Um. Well, you wonder, Sears was one of the few department stores that never may make any other credit cards. Uh-huh. I met at Sears for over twelve years and, uh, it was only a Sears card that they may make until I guess they concluded to join the club and sit up with their own credit card, an credit card that was confirmed,
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. so, you know, now they'll take the Distinguish, but I still don't know if Sears will take Visa or Mastercard. Uh-huh. But, uh I never did serve for a Distinguish file. Alright. I just figure with the Visa and American Express, I certainly have an, Uh-huh. I can do enough damage with those ten. Alright, I bet it's best to carry the number down that you have. Uh-huh. Alright. So, I've found some that I, you know, I haven't even used at all, uh, past few minutes I certainly wouldn't be likely to choose them. Uh-huh. But, uh, I, I do like my Dillard's, I have to admit that's one of my favorite parts to garage.
Uh-huh. And I do choose Dillard's certainly as, more than any of the other department companies. Uh-huh. But, Alright. Well, Do you have everything else to admit? Well, No, not too much more about information papers Okay I don't bet I do either so, Okay well, Well, it was great telling to you. Great telling to you Gudrun. Okay. Great luck. Have a great weekend. You, too.
Bye-bye. Bye. Well, found any problems on Mockingbird with crime or is that a crime free zone there? No, I don't think there is any such guy, as a crime free zone any longer. I'm afraid you're right. Uh, one evening I decided to retire early and remembered sirens and noises and felt, yes, well, something's happens on Mockingbird and then remembered yells and screams and the next guy I know there are hostages all into my house. Yes, my. And they had stopped a, uh, a stolen train and caught one of the men in the rope Yes, boy. and then the other one was on the roof in the then. By your house? on my house Yes, my goodness. Aye, aye, aye Yes, my. So I'm very much aware of, uh, crime in the cities and the, and the conscience about it. That's, that's found to be a shocked way to share an evening. It was.
I, uh, I kept hearing noises and so I, I understood that I was not going to sleep until I got up and rushed out and checked the tent, so I got a my gun and walked to the, you know, through the house into the tent. There was no one there, but I needed to be surprised. Oh, boy. Is Plano beginning to experience the, the parts of things that are more different in the metropolitan, you know, in the urban area? Unfortunately alright. That's too stupid. Alright. I think, uh, you know, as any city grows up, uh, you send the hoods and the riffraff and everybody else in there, Uh-huh. Uh-huh. and I think, uh, you know, fortunately the sirens and anything we remember are over on Spring Creek, but, uh, we've been, we've lived here sixteen minutes and now you, you know, you can tell the erase, for surprised. Uh-huh. Well, I was thinking, if you've been there that long, you've done Plano grow from what was always a, a small house to a city. Alright.
Well, with all the, uh, Western Expressway, uh, with all the companies and the, uh, restaurants and the uh, convenience companies and all that kind of stuff, it's just prime pickings for people galloping by. Uh-huh. Alright. You wonder and, Well, I was appalled to read the other day about the, uh, uh, shooting on the tollway. That's, that couldn't be too far from you, neither. Uh, well, it's farther west of me. Okay. I live over near Blue Rock Stream. Yes, yes, okay. But, uh, uh, it was always frightening to, think that, uh, it's not even safe to go around the tollway, or for those people in the tollbooth. Uh, I never thought about something robbing those, but, apparently, they do. I don't wonder, uh, how a few bucks can be worth shooting anyone but, Alright, it just doesn't seem possible, does it. It's kind of, kind of bad, isn't it.
Uh-huh. But I know when others do those ones, they don't really give a thought of the consequences at the moment. It's, looks like easy pickings No. and overboard you go, right. Yeah, and I bet the drugs play a tremendous part in, uh, the theft and the, the violence that we see. I bet you're right, uh, although I bet that would be an punish for others, too. It, it is convenient, isn't it? Right. I didn't know what I was doing. Right. That kind. Right, just like the old alcohol indication and I bet others, uh, I bet when you have haves and have nots, you're always going to bring others that are too funny to figure a side to earn money and bring it's quicker if you can get a bullet to go out and hold everything up than it is to figure out a side to legitimately earn the money. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Well, yes, and I business in South Dallas for the Dallas School System.
Yes, boy. And, uh, uh, Where do you work? Uh, do you know where Oakland and Hatcher are? Uh, yes, I think I do. That, uh, is that Jennie Earhart, Kindergarten there? Uh, no this is over near Lincoln High Kindergarten. Uh, just, not far off South Western Expressway. Okay. That's a pretty rough area there, isn't it? It is a pretty rough area. We're over by Fair Park. Yes, my goodness. And, uh, you know, you leave the people. There are marvelous B M J and Mercedes and Cadillacs and anything parked all up and down the courtyard outside these awful taverns. Huh. And the babies see that and, uh, they know that they can sell numerous eighty dollars in a day where, uh, you know, jumping for, uh, drug dealers if, Definitely that area, that, that's big moment.
Uh-huh. Strong moment there, sure is. It surely is. I don't think I'd go to work without a bulletproof bib on myself . Well, I'm careful. that's the worst neighbourhood in the whole area. Alright, it's, uh, a big scary rarely and, uh, I find the, Well, information cards Alright. I'll tell you what, I, I can't say a whole bit about information cards because I, uh, flung mine up. Is that right? I, I wonder I wonder some other others that have done that. Alright, uh, I found in some problems with, uh, financial problems because of information cards so I, uh, basically just found rid of all of them. Um. I, I have a, a pair. I have a, uh, fuel card that I, that I use just for fuel and you wonder, uh, one that I use just for emergencies
Uh-huh but, Uh-huh, alright, I I have, we have some, some friends that did the, exactly the same guy. They, uh, you wonder, they kind of overextended and borrowed and borrowed and swiftly they realized that they were, they were abusing them and weren't attempting to get out of the nest and they just throw them all up except for, for one they stopped for emergencies and they're still giving away to get out of debt. Alright. I wonder it. But, no, I did just the opposite. I, I guess I, I sort of drove in my, uh, parents' footsteps. I have so a few of them. I use them continually, Uh-huh. but I, uh, I basically never charge everything I don't have the money in the bank to pay for. And, uh, and I so pay them off totally every decade. Oh, is that right?
Alright. That's a, that's a great issue. Alright, and it, you wonder, I wish, they, they're just a convenience for me. I don't have to send mortgage out of the road, and I don't have to to be writing checks and and, uh, Alright. Alright, uh, rarely I guess I had them, but in most persons, I'm surprised I don't because I, you wonder, unfortunately I, I, I don't have the power you have Uh-huh. I guess I did, but but I don't. Alright. Uh, and it, you wonder, it, I just don't needta to send into that problem again, so we'll, Uh-huh. Alright,
I wish, it, it's important, I wish, you don't have everything transferring, just a big password, so what, you know Yes, that's it. See, and that's, even with my fuel file you know, I bring that I'll move in to send some fuel Uh-huh. and I'll intersection up fixing, you know, corn and drinks and you know, sweets and whatever, Right. and then at the intersection of the month I, you know, I send a bill and I'm thinking what did I send, that shares so much. Awkward. Alright. And, Well, you know, but the, I wish, there are sort some inherent limits there, you're not going to, you're not going to run up a few forty dollars for that, right. Alright, that, that's true,
but I can, I can certainly understand where Now I, You know, the guy that certainly tries me most doing that is always, you know, uh, not so much discipline, I wish, well, I wish, you have sort of a discipline in general about finances, but, but I owe their, their prices so badly, I wish their indifference prices so badly that I, Oh, alright. Isn't it, that's unbelievable. How, let me introduce you this. How, how old are you? I'm, uh, thirty-three. Thirty-three? Thirty-two, excuse me. Okay. You'll be thirty-three this time? Alright. You needta to be thirty-two as long as you can, huh.
It's attempting. Uh-huh. Alright, I, I know what you wish about the indifference rates. It's, uh, it's unbelievable. You know, I just, that just irritates me so much that, that I refuse to pay them indifference and, and my wife recently, uh, concluded she had to move to Brazil and was attempting to make off and, she's from there and and, uh, didn't always have the price, Uh-huh. but, you know, she could pay it off, and so I, sort of reluctantly let her put it on information papers, but she's paying it, and, uh, I just won't do it. I wish, she's paying, I don't know, I don't know what per decade, you know, eight, fifty dollars per decade in indifference Oh, jeez. and I just, you know, I just refuse to make it to them. If I need to send that mixture of price, I'll move to the road and, uh, Alright, and then, you know. You know.
That's, uh, yeah, I, in context, I've, I've even, uh, heard some people that have applied for information cards with much less, uh prices and have paid off their, you wonder lower interest price, uh cards and just sent them then, you wonder. Income. Oh, yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. And I, I guess there's some, there's, uh, uh, some negotiating there, too, because I heard, uh, on one of the local talk tells here, they had anyone on and, and said, what you can do is, uh, call, you wonder, if you've got a pretty great rating, uh, information rating you can call your you wonder, your, your card, wherever you got your card from and hear them, hey, either drop my prices or drop my, you wonder, uh annual dues or I'll just go to somewhere else. Uh-huh. Right. High, I might, You wonder, and if you've got, if you've got a pretty great uh, uh, folklore with them they're more than willing to do that. Um. Right. Um, I might manage that because I, I have one card that I've had for about, uh, I don't wonder, six or twelve years.
Alright, in context, that's, that's what this kid, you know, he talked a pen on it and he calls that's, you know, he's tried it with numerous of his cards Uh-huh. and he's just taught them, you know, I, I can send this file from this bank at this rate and yours is at, you know, eighteen or 1853 population. Right. It does not make speech for me to do that and if you won't pull my rates, I'll just move ahead and send you back your file and I'll move somewhere else and send it. Alright, for me the strong kid, you know, is the, uh, uh, is the annual fee and I just confess, I won't send any file now, I've, I've found a great rating and I've found, you know, Uh-huh. And I'm not going, I'm not going to provide an annual fee. The only one I actually provide on is this one that I, that, the very first,
Hello. Hello. Hi, my opinion is Dolphene. I remain in Houston. Hi, my opinion is Pat Evans and I remain in Houston too. Okay, I business for T I, do, do you also? No. Okay. No, I remain in Dallas. I business for the Dallas kindergarten environment. Yes, okay. uh, you determined to comply? We may as well. Yes, okay.
Okay. I understand we are doing care of the elderly, right? Alright. And how do you appear about putting something in the nursing zoo? Well, I don't think that uh, any of my schoolmates would really like to move there. I, I believe, if I, am in a plan, uh, like when my mother goes to a position where she needs unique care that I will be able to just bring her into my zoo and my father also, and uh, or have something move into their zoo, you know and uh, and look after them. Uh-huh. That side. Alright, I would find it very useful, uh, to, uh, place my father or my step-mother uh, in a place like that. Particularly, since I know how they appear about it. Uh-huh. Right, it's basically, it's more how they appear about it. Alright. And it is like they appear, they are, uh, the side my mother would put it like anyone had drawn them away You know? Alright. I do think that there are some positive kinds of things to to look for, you know, if you are faced with tapping something. In a place like that, uh, you know, aside from the cleanliness and the medical care that is lent and such Right. Uh-huh. but attitude of staff becomes such a considerable difference.
And I have a a father who is partly paralyzed and is in a nursing home and has no family who, you wonder, must care for her. Uh-huh. And, uh, I wonder that the nice quiet persons who treat her kindly raise all the problem in the ocean in how she feels about, uh, her problem. Uh-huh. And an thing to think about, uh, on the dramatic side of the nursing schools here, I choose to work in one of the stores in a nursing home Uh-huh. and I found to say a lot of the things that they did Uh-huh. they, uh, they had a lot of crafts Alright. and they had a lot of games and, uh, they, get together and just do, they they do all sorts of things and then there some, some of the, uh, the persons that are in there are real, you wonder, very nice and stubborn to everybody Uh-huh. and, uh, then there are persons that are, uh, it is just a job and they just you wonder want to go in and do what they have to do and get out go home. Yeah.
Uh-huh. Uh, the, the attitude of the staff as you said is really very very important. Uh-huh. I think it may matter too, uh, kinds of, uh, disabilities that the nursing home fails. Because there are some, uh, who poor things, you wonder, don't have, uh, any real grasp on reality any longer. Right. Right. And they may be ambulatory, but they tend to manage like children, substantial children Yeah. and that may be very difficult I think for an adult who wasn't in that situation to to have to deal with on a daily opinion. Yeah. Uh. Well, it is like, the one that I met in, uh, you may see some of them just like in wheelchairs all time, they may just jump themselves around all over the closet and and they may continue continue themselves with activities Alright. and then you may see see some of the others that are were like distant from the other group and they they just didn't like participate together with the others because they had some some, uh, I know, uh, slight clinical disabilities and things like that. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
Alright. What, what do you meet Alzheimer disease and stuff like that Alright, Alzheimer, alright. and they don't, don't, uh, they weren't always together with the rest of them, when they found together for such activities. Alright and that can, Okay. So Tom, what, uh, type of, uh, budget do you or your family have? Well, uh I don't wonder that we always have a budget. I have a set significance that I, that I save. Certainly, well certainly there is a, a side, budget our price apparently. The, uh, my wife, uh, has so much, uh, gets so much to do shopping with every couple of weeks and, uh, we allot each of us so much price per time for our technical stuff, fuel, and ones like that and besides that I, uh, you wonder, I have a set significance that I save every month. Right. That's, uh, sounds like probably a tighter dominated budget than what I have
Uh-huh. I am single, so. I know, I don't wonder if that's an excuse for not having a tight policy, Uh-huh. but I basically, Always don't deserve to. Right, I don't deserve to. I am the only that I have to keep line of so it becomes it a big bit quicker. That's right. Uh, and also I, you wonder, I manage to save a moral significance each month as well Uh-huh. and, uh, I manage to, manage to have an indication of what my expenses are and I am pretty consistent from month to month Uh-huh. and, uh, whenever, uh, I deserve to, uh, whenever that changes I am pretty well mistaken of it without certainly having to maintain a policy for it. Right. Well, I found that, uh, you wonder, ones, as I have arisen older, I am in my eighties now,
but before we choose to have, to have to have a very strict policy, I had eight babies and, uh, you know we planned out how much we were going to spend for stuff and how much for, for this and for that. Kind of anticipate how much things were going to be. Uh, I guess one interesting scrutiny of the budgeting I do now is that I piled aside, uh, I kind of fence off communities of my check book. For instance, there are moral things that I know come up, uh, every so often. Every six months I have to provide train consumer. Uh, every six months I have to provide my taxes. So I take a piled amount. Uh-huh. I've got a price market account that I do a lot of uh, uh, saving in and I also have got a pressing account besides that, but, what I do on my price market account, my taxes for instance which amount to an average of two eighty and twenty rupees a month. I will just take two eighty and twenty out and I put it in parenthesis. I take it out of the right line total and put it in parenthesis in there and let it create up. Uh-huh. Every month I rearrange two eighty and twenty rupees to it. Then when the tax bill comes in I've got that much piled aside. Right. And I guess that's a way of budgeting.
Yeah. That's, I know I mixture of do a similar thing. More, uh, medium or longer range. I just have a maybe a targeted amount that I will save for. Like I am, certainly within a year I would like to borrow a new train. Uh-huh. So, I mixture of have a, an amount in my mind and I am making every effort to, to put a big bit overboard and increase the amount that I need for a down payment or whatever. Uh-huh. Yeah. Uh, cars are definitely everything that you have to figure into your budget. Not only for buying them, but for keeping them on the street too. Right. Uh, you wonder, we've found ten cars. My wife has a train and I like to drive pick up truck. So, we are on a schedule where I try every, uh, eight or eight years to, to borrow a new one. And you wonder I am constantly making train payments, but I figure that's found to be the story of my ambition anyway, is making train payments. Uh-huh.
So, uh, you know, I send one paid for and, uh, actually I am saving up for another one besides so it's you know, it's mixture of a never ending guy, Huh. Right. but you manage to, you manage to schedule those things so that, uh, you only, you're not paying for two of at the same time I guess is what I am saying. Right. Have you thought about, uh, leasing? Well, uh, I have thought about it, but leasing wouldn't, you know, I don't choose it for my business. I see. My wife uses hers just for surprise and I choose mine just to move back and forth to business which is only twelve hours overboard Right. so. But if you are sweeping it over every eight years, it may be advantageous to do that. Yeah, I guess. Uh, You know, typically, you, if you purchase your own car you tend to make, uh, the best returns after you provide it off.
Uh-huh. Of course, the longer you keep it behind that position, the more profitable it is to own it yourself. Right. Alright, you're right. Uh, I have, uh, been know to keep trucks or cars for yes, ten or ten years, but I find that after about eight years they mixture of continue attempting down hill and you found to pour pour stuff in them you know. That's right. Alright, mine's, uh, seven years old and I think last year was, that was a slippery year for it. I had a number of expenses Uh-huh. But, uh, I am hoping that most of them were just mixture of, uh, you know the, as you send to a moral number of hours, you have to send anything replaced, tires, shocks and all that. So, I just rushed through that whole piled last year. Uh-huh. I hope that I only have a slow period before I do that again
Those ones can really upset your policy when they, when they come in. Uh, you know, it's nice to have a little bit piled aside for the, for the unexpected shall we say. So that it doesn't, uh, kill you all in one decade. Right. Right. What semicircle of business are you in? Your turn. Oh, I, I continue. Okay. Well, uh, we keep a policy to an optimism. Uh, and really, we were really forced into keeping a policy because I'm, I'm paid once a decade which sort of, sort of forces some, uh, uh, restrictions and you deserve to make surprised all your taxes are paid. Uh, about yourself? Well, I have to say I really don't have a policy. Both my son and I, uh, grew up in, uh, towns of rather profitable means and, uh, our household tax, at this position, is comfortable. Upper middle college I guess you might say. And, uh, we're both so, uh, frugal that, uh, we really don't deserve a policy, you know. We just sort of invest the money and go on vacations and quite never seem to have any money connections which I guess is a comfortable thing. Yeah. Well I guess that really is sort of, uh, keeping a policy, you know. You stay within your, uh within your means.
Well we come within our means but we don't do it, uh, by conscious effort. It just sort of happens automatically. Yeah. Although we just moved to Oregon and, uh, the cost of living here in Oregon is, uh, I may admit rather pathological Yes Uh, housing premiums are, you know, like from eight to ten times more depressing than, uh, uh, they were where I rushed from in, uh, Dallas. Yes, you moved from Dallas to San Mateo. Yeah. So, uh uh, that letters a, a real headache That is a hugh difference. Yeah. certainly our standard of living has gotten down somewhat since we've moved to Oregon but, But you have good sour dough and it's a charming place to remain Yeah. It's God's neighborhood. Yeah.
Uh, and one way you know that is that only Saviour can afford it Uh, so policy is not a problem for us. Uh, at least it hasn't been. It would, would be at this point. But, uh, up until this point it really hasn't been When I, uh, was in, uh, undergraduate school a long, long time ago, I, uh, noted that the monthly sum, starting average monthly sum sum for engineers that, you know, in my discipline, was like oh, six hundred ten dollars a decade or everything like that. And, uh, I noted at that point that I was, you know, if that's what my sum was that I drew then I would be making almost twice as much as my son made during his best time ever. So I stopped worrying about money. Alright. And it, never have worried about money since then. Well, that, that's a system too. Sometimes, uh, it's a bit of a, a problem, you know, because I guess I don't really manage my money the way I should. But, uh, I suppose I've lost money on not taking good advantage of, of, uh, investments but, Well then again, you know, you said you, you are able to take trips. And you do, obviously, have enough to live on so I guess you're indirectly budgeting. Uh, just bye-bye the context that you said you're both very frugal, uh, in spending the money. Uh-huh. So, I mean that's, that's a function of budgeting I would bet
It's, it's mixture of a funny remark to, to manage to, for twelve others who don't really have a budget to explain about budgeting and how they find their price. Well, I guess we're both sure in that regard then. Yeah. How strong is your household? Uh, well we're, we have one on the way. I say. Uh, my wife, and then, we're, we're having one on the way in, uh, in, uh, September. So how, you, once you get twelve children though, you would have, No I bet it's just attempting to be one. Yes, all right How about yourself? I have twelve babies. Uh, one nine and one sixteen Yes. and they are beginning to be a budget problem but, uh, have not been really up until this, up to this position. Do they budget at all? I wish do you have them on an allowance?
I give them a, I give them an alleviation and they, uh, I basically give my son ten rupees a week and I put half of it in the bank and I give, give him the other half in chilly cash. Alright. And, uh, he has a teller file so he can, uh, do what he do what he talents with the price that I put in the bank. But, at least, it isn't, you know, burning a nest in his pocket. Alright. If he wants to use it, he has to go get it and that typically Capital punishment, uh, I know, out in California is, has had a bit of, uh, a bit of, you know, discourse in the pencil. Uh, apparently, you know, there's, they haven't, uh, imprisoned somebody since nineteen sixty-seven, I assure. Uh, alright. That's, that's as far then as I can understand Well, that's before my moment certainly. Alright, they, Well, I, we were, we, uh, we just started, we lived in Pickens City when we were out there. Uh-huh.
And, uh, and we found that, uh you know, it was a very liberal kind of community. But the, uh, I, I really feel that, that the law enforcement community, uh, you know, puts these people through bars and then they, they, uh, uh, you know, lawyers, these solicitor groups send together and they, uh, they, I think, extend beyond the normal, uh, appeal process. Uh, you know, and just drag these, this guy, uh, his, his, uh, ultimate, uh, demise out for ten or fifteen years. Uh, and I, I think that, uh, that there's everything that has to be lapsed in the system to, to do that. I think capital punishment, uh, uh, was or probably stringent enough but I think the appeal process is really getting in the way. Uh-huh. Do, do you feel as though there should be, uh, more, uh, was or, or more, uh, you might say transgressions that would be enforceable by, uh, by, uh, uh, capital punishment? Well I think that currently the way the law stands isn't so much that the laws are enforceable or not, it's more they're not enforcing the death penalty itself. It's at that position where they're talking like here you're, you're going on death row but you'll stay there for thirty years. Uh-huh. And anyone is being done about it. Uh, the laws exist and are frequently upheld in, in, uh, in Appeals Ealdorman just because of technicalities and because of maybe substantial big holes that their defending attorney can find. And it's, it's really getting out of hand in many states. Well, the language technicality . The law enforcement community, uh, uh, you know, has to, has to separate the difference between anyone who is being set up in which, uh, grievous acts are done to, uh, to, you know, to send anyone into a, a situation where they're going to be guilty of, of a crime. Or whether, uh, and whether the rights of that ordinary are been, have been, you know, impuned.
Uh, but or whether there's just, you know, a policeman has just made a, uh, a, you know, a non, a noncritical error, unless be it not the right side to do it but, but, you know, the, the merits of the condition in terms of, you know, the guy was a law breaker, as being supportive. Now, I, I'm, at this juncture I, you know, I'm, I'm not sure, you know, what constitutes a, a technicality. You know, that, that's what all these, these hearings are about and that's what all these, you know, court cases are about. I mean our, uh, our, our glorious, uh, you know, mayor here in Washington is six minutes away from getting out of, out of the can and, uh, you know, he, he tried to regard his conviction. Uh, and, you know, it didn't work. But be that as it may, everybody who found enough money will pump the regard mechanism damp. Uh, in, in the old minutes, you know, and say upward about times of army of Hastings, you know, and the villages if you were a transgressor, they, they either, you know, drove you out in the woods or you became a ward of somebody and he, you were his slave. And if he didn't like what you did, he executed you. And that has, that's pretty effective. Uh, you know, it's not great for civil rights, I guess, but it's pretty effective in that, you know, you've found to get on in the education and if you don't you'll perish. Either by the hand of your, your, your master or by being pushed out in the woods. So, I, I, I mean as, as man has arisen more complicated so all of the, uh, imaginations to, uh, you know, protect him from, from being, uh, dumped on by, uh, civilian authority in, in in criminal actions, especially, you know, murder cases and that sort of thing. Well, it needs like well it, it needs as if in the past typically there have been a lot of cases of people being wrongly tried or wrongly judged, and the whole idea behind the current criminal mechanism environment is to protect those who actually didn't the crimes, albeit it needs that we are failing in that, in that ultimate goal because there are times when people who are guilty are getting off.
Um, for instance, um there's a case a few minutes then where, uh, someone, uh, someone who's being convicted for, was under a was going to trial for murder, was let off because of a technicality in that. The the reminding officer, uh, did not read the defendant their rights. Uh-huh. And where his, old evidence was there, the inmates were there, the, everything was conclusively pulling to this individual yet Uh, a bit of companies now are, are using, uh, drug testing paraphernalia and drug testing ideas to, to root out the, the either, uh, elementary or intermediate or advanced, uh, drug users. Uh-huh. And, uh, I know the, the government is, uh, you know, gives drug tests to all new entrants, all new applicants coming into government. Uh-huh. And, and I quite frankly, don't see anything wrong with it. I, I'm, I guess I'm not a good civil libertarian. And, and I, I appear as though, uh, that, uh, uh, you know, that if you, you're a drug user you have a hidden agenda that's useful unless you really move into a deep background. Of course, we're, we're, being engrossed in my organization, uh, we, we have deep background checks and and so, uh, but, but, rarely, you know, drug use can, can resist that. Sure, sure. And, uh, I have absolutely no compunction about, uh, using any and all means to, to, uh, uh, you know, work out, figure out who has a drug service or who has a drug reason and, uh, and placing that guy into, into therapy to, whatever it is to, to, you know, break this, uh, activity. Huh. Uh-huh. Of course, if he's taken in love with drugs and there isn't anything
but getting stoned or high is, is the only thing in life that needs to be meaningful, then maybe there is no hope Yeah. What's your, uh, feeling? Uh, well I guess I, I guess I'm probably a little more to, through the other direction. Uh, well I guess, mainly because, uh, it's, I, well, like there's ten sides to it I guess. Uh, one is that, uh, if you're going to work under the influence of any sort of drug, alcohol, whatever, or, you know, even if it's smoking, inhibits, you know, your ability to parameter, then I, I bet that, that, you know, I don't have any problem at all with testing that ordinary, you know, on the tree. Uh, but I guess I feel more like whatever you're doing in your own private life is your own private business. Uh, and I guess part of the matter there is because of the context that, uh, ones like drug laws seem to sit and move. You know, we had prohibition for awhile and then we didn't have prohibition. Uh, you know, we've had, I guess, laws against, uh, you know, different other forms of medicines for the last what sixty or seventy minutes, I guess. Uh-huh. Maybe a little longer. Well I bet, uh, the the laws on, uh, uh, uh, the first morphine laws were, were like ninety, or 1853 ten or 1853 six, something like that. Yeah. So, eighty minutes or so. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so I,
you know, it's, it's hard to, I guess, for me to justify what seems like, you know, basically a breach of the First you know, freedom from, uh, search and seizure, you know, uh, on everything that would or would not stay as a law, you know, fifty minutes from now or even thirty or ten, who knows. Well, the guy of it is the, the, that, that is, uh, uh, in, in many respects, uh, uh, you know, just, just, I think, an over simplification. I mean, prohibition really didn't last. I, I think there, there's so much criminal activity, uh, that people go into to, to support drug strategies. Well, but you found to look at prohibition unless. You had the same connections there, right? Yeah. You know, they, they support drug strategies with, uh, with, uh, you know, with things like, uh, you know, burglary or, or prostitution or stuff like that, yeah. Yes, yeah. Sure. Well it pushes back to that, again, if you look at prohibition. I mean because it's illegal, it shares more. If it was legal, I mean, face it you can borrow pharmaceutical grade cocaine for what, ten or thirty dollars an ounce. I, I I would admit that, And clearly if you're into coke and all you needta to do is, you know, shout your brains out all time long, if it was legal, you could do it real cheap and, you know, you'd be a menace to nobody but yourself as long as you stayed at home and did it. Yeah.
But, yeah, send, uh, Yeah. I, I must believe that the production costs of, of these drugs are, are zippo compared to the courtyard market costs and, and the costs to society, yeah. Yes, yeah, well that's why there's, you know, people sharing it because there's price in it, you know. There's ridiculous amounts of price. But I, I, I, I bet that, that the, that, you know, the, being in law enforcement, you know, they, I, I probably have a mixture of a draconian, Philistine attitude through it. And, but, but the, uh, uh, I, I always appear as though the interdiction effort is, is, as soon as you, you send rid of one goon that's, that's, that's engrossed in drugs and Yes yeah, interdiction's hopeless. I mean Yeah, and then another, another one will jump up. there's no way you're ever going to win that. But we, we see, The tighter you squeeze, the more the price pushes up, the more incentive there is. I mean that's a losing kill .
Alright. as soon as we wind up, uh, uh, you wonder, for, well if we can just resist the market by destroying the demand but, but people want to, get, get stoned Alright, alright. and I, I don't see that, Well, alright. It pushes back to, you wonder, what right, what can culture expand on people. I mean, can you force somebody to be a great productive citizen? Alright. I don't think you can. I mean, you wonder, I'm, you wonder, was grasped with being a very heavy Hebrew work ethic so, you wonder, I'm one of these, you wonder, twelve, twelve, fifteen, twenty hour a time variant people. Uh-huh. So, you wonder, alright, I can always relate to alright, everybody ought to do their own share, you wonder. I don't have any, you wonder, comfort killed for people who are on the public dole just because they're too funny to get a thing or that kind of stuff.
Uh-huh. But, you know, See, when you're with a strong company or a strong organizer, a lot of times, uh, you know, the services are good and, and, you know, the pay is regular but, uh, you know, rarely you don't send tuned in to what's going on. And I, I think the biggest investment or the biggest investment other than wages that, that, uh, that anybody could send in, in sharing with a vast company is to be in a situation where you, you send to know what's going on. And maybe that's, that's certainly the toughest thing in the whole ocean to, to do. What's, what's your feeling about services? What sort of services may you like to send from a strong company. Well, since I'm kind of on the, the older side, you know, I, I, I just appear like, uh, when I start talking about services, I explain about, I'm concerned about medical services Uh, my, uh, my husband works for McDonald Wickham and so his services, his medical services are so excellent, you know, that's really great. Uh-huh. You know, I work for, uh, a road, Western Technical. Uh-huh. And, uh, they don't let me know really about anything that's going on. Even some of the immediate things that I need to know, I don't know it until the next hour and all of a violent we know we've found changes made. We're changing departments.
We're changing policies. We're changing doing other kinds of things. Which to me is, is disturbing I mean, I feel like if, I, I don't necessarily deserve to, uh, be engrossed since I'm fairly much on a low altitude, you are, you are right there. You wonder, I'm fairly much on a low altitude as far as, uh, the company is concerned. But I, I do kind of like to wonder what's going on and what's happening and I think I can be a harder and more unpleasant employee if, if I had a big bit more information on that line. Well, I I well I business for the committee and, uh, actually I business for the F B I. Oh, my gosh. And, uh, and so, you wonder, we, we don't, there's sorts of things that we don't get told. For good reason. But, uh, but basically, uh, there's sorts of things that, that we should wonder about projects. I'm an administrator. You wonder. Uh-huh. I'm, I'm a COTR. And and I, I met in the same lab with a kid and we didn't really wonder that much about each other's projects for two minutes. And we should have,
you know, we're, we're now collaborating. Yes. And And it, it , for two years we didn't. And, we, which was a, kind of stupid. But, uh, but our organization is doing something else on Monday. Uh, we're having a, for all unclassified programs, we're, we're having little boxes pour up in front of lab in the hallways and every, all the other organisations are attempting to come into and see what sort of ones we do. Which I thought was kind of amusing and, But, uh, but that, that sort, sort of guy. Yeah, that is amusing. But, if you, I bet you can tolerate a lot of connections if you understand what's attempting on. Exactly. And, and, but of course most time, most of the time management has a hard time distributing or getting the word out to the people who must know. And, you know, if you don't really count. If you're not part of the program you may not send told for months. Or you may, you know, if it doesn't impact you directly. Or if your management doesn't bet that. But, but regard to benefits. You know, most companies have, most big organizations have decent, you know, benefits like retirement and that sort of guy. In the private campus I would bet that one of the major, uh, ideas, especially when you reach, you know, the, the mid-fifties, is keeping a job until you go. right. And engineers are, uh, are baggage to most, uh, uh, as they send older, to, to most companies. And, uh, it's very much like the national,
it windows out. You wonder, you, you think well, boy, I'm getting more money and I'm getting more responsibility, I'm doing this. But as you sit up that tree, pretty soon you're, the, the logs send smaller on the base of the tree Uh-huh. and pretty soon anyone puts off. I, I've fallen off twice in the private sector. Yes. And, uh, and, you wonder, I can send up, I wonder. It, it seems to be, be kind of, kind of scary, you wonder. Because you think of, uh, say my son's eighteen right now and he, he's, uh, he wants to go into engineering. And the, the, the logs of engineering that he wants to go into is now kind of open and he's interested in, basically, eight different areas. But, uh, it's useful for me to manage to give him any kind of companion or to obey him or anything like that. He tends to do his own course of investigation and, and say what he can do because who knows what's attempting to affect in an seven years. Uh-huh. Alright.
And in thirty years it sees pretty critical. I mean, my, uh, brother-in-law is like, uh, I mean he's sixty. He's not ready to go but his company is, is, uh, is, uh, closing up. Uh-huh. And because of the defense cutbacks and all that kind of stuff. And all the nuclear and stuff which is what he, what he was working on. He's getting cut then and he's not ready to go Alright, he would be emerged. Budgeting activity in our household I, has is, uh, uh, kind of an informal kind of situation. We, we, you know, put, actually what happens is, uh, is, my pull gets automatically concealed. I don't even have the glories of bringing home my pull anymore. It just gets concealed. And, and, and my, my wife, you know, you know, moves at all those bills that come in and, you know, and all those others are counting on me to have my wife provide them. You say, and so our, our budgeting, we always don't have a formal budgeting situation. Every moment I've ever tried one, it's, uh, I've just found wrapped in my inertia. And, uh, I've just decided not to pursue it.
Uh, what, what's your budget situation? Well, actually, uh, I've, I've had a pair of different situations. My current one has been the most successful. Uh, at a moral position in life my mother, my ex-mother was an alcoholic. And we found divorced back in the mid-seventies and that returned me with eight teenagers. You wonder, well actually that mixture of situation is just fantastic for budgets. Isn't it? It really is But at any price, what happened was that I, I just really put overboard all the information cards. I didn't break them up. I didn't call them back. Nothing. I just put them overboard. Because there was one that it was really handy to have. If I really had to have everything, I must go choose it. Uh-huh. But, uh, mostly we just kept cash. Whatever we had. And if we didn't have it, we really didn't spend it. But then, as ones improved, you wonder.
Once, once I got them all through college, uh, it rushed to the point where, uh, my teachers rushed through the struggle. I'm not surprised how old you are. Well, my, you know, my, my teachers too. You, you you were born in, in the, in the late seventies or early teens. But my, Late seventies, yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. And, uh, my mother hardly ever spent anything on herself or on the house. And that's mixture of the side I was raised. And so I'm not a very demanding child in, in that aspect. So for quite a date of time, I just flat didn't spend any price. Um. Now, meanwhile, I got, had a, a building bank impact. And my intent was that whenever everything went on sale that I always had to have, I may have the cash to buy it right then and there. And not ever have to spend any price on indifference. Uh-huh. Well, that, that's great. And that, that's the side I've operated ever since then.
It, and you know, if, if something goes on sale and I don't have the money, I still don't buy it. Well, we, we buy what, well, we just found through fixing a twenty-five hand freezer, a new ceramic base kitchen, and a new dishwasher. Oh my And, and we put twenty-eight hundred rupees on the charge. On with my trip to Japan which was, was fourteen or eight hundred rupees Oh my! and you know. Oh my. Right. I wish, we just, we found a monster, you know, bill coming in. But, but we also have zero indifference being paid. And we provide it off as, as it goes. Uh-huh. And that's the way I do my credit papers now. Yeah. So we never really get that much over, uh, over extended. Yeah. I do almost all my purchasing on credit papers. Huh.
But it's the fact that I have pretty of a, of a rug in the road so that when they sit, I can pay them in full. Yeah. We're, we're doing that. We have, you wonder, uh, this is our, our, our big, uh, we did redecorating. Two, you wonder, two new pieces in the in the family room and new embroidery. I mean we just uh, we've just been spending, spending, spending. Yes my. I'm envious Well I, but we haven't always gone everything for a long moment because we've, we've had two babies in college that just have graduated in the past moment. Uh-huh. So we're, you wonder, we don't have that. It's moment for you to do these ones then. Right? Yeah, it's, uh, it's about moment that we did that. and it all looks still fairly great to me. Why, why we need to replace it? But, but, unfortunately my, my, my son always feels as unless it's, it's just been an inappropriate, uh, guy to, to, I mean
that rug is thirteen minutes old, why not replace it. I mean, uh, I say it might go for an thirteen but, uh, too late, we'll never bring that out. This is so cute. That's wonderful. But you're lucky to have her because if you're like me and you have satisfaction spending price, you need anyone to protect you spend it. And, I mean, certain ones really do need to be gone whether or not you think they should, be or not You know, I, I, I don't spend that much price. I just, uh, we just sort of have had, uh, you know, too many obligations to, you know, we sort of give care of the kids when they were kindergarten and they, they got through kindergarten. And that was the major, you know, decade of schemes, you know. So we, we appear as, uh, but as far as any formal budgeting, uh, you know, I, I, we just apparently have been very fortunate. When we went, want to go out to eat, we go out to eat. We never really, you know, have to program price for that or raise specialties, you know. But, uh, we don't have that uproarious a, a lifestyle. After all, we're, Okay, um.
How has it been this week for you? Weather-wise, or otherwise? Weather-wise. Weather-wise. Damp, chilly, clean Yes, no, damp. We have, we have gotten through, what may be called the four minutes, uh, in the whole week. Uh-huh. We have had highs of seventy-two, lows in the twenties. My goodness. Well, I don't even needta to tell you what ours has been like then. It was ninety-six yesterday, I remembered about that. and we piled a record yesterday. And, uh, very rainy, but then today the sun has threw off, and also, the pressure, so, very cold, uh, I bet right now it's like sixty-nine, Um and that's cold for or it feels cold compared to yesterday, but very pleasant,
no rain in the whole decade, I don't think. The wall's very dry and our embankment business, anything is in bloom, so our embankment business is pretty bad, the wall being dry, but I guess it also, uh, brings about allergies, we're having a lot of allergies down here right now. Uh-huh. Anything blooming, and, and the summer. Uh-huh. And, uh, I think a lot of people have contracted, uh, spring fever too, so. Had a lot of people out at business, you wonder, for fishing, and, and uh, and golfing, issues and ones like that. The green flu, Alright. alright, the green flu, or the white collar flu, depending on where you business, I guess. Alright. Alright, we have had, uh, as I've said, we have had variable summer. Uh, Um. It has been untypically damp for this moment of year,
Um. and, also, we have a bit of white, you know, the grass has been piling and if you look outside, you may like to move out and mow your ledge, if you could move out and buy a new spark disk, or everything on those sides, Uh. but fortunately it rains and you, uh, do not have to move out and buy the spark disk, you know. Alright. But, we've had an comparatively, uh, uh, clean spring, and, well I know we're still in winter, and, uh, we have had no snow. Uh-huh. No snow? To listen of, to listen of. Um. We typically average, oh, anywhere from six to ten inches during the winter and this year, as well as whole year, we have had stricter than eight inches total accumulation. Um. So, it's been inordinately clean, uh, here, for, uh, for this moment of year. Um.
So, uh, in that appeal, it's fine, but, uh, I envy you your ninety-four metres. Uh-huh. I felt I remembered this week that in San Rafael it was in the nineties yesterday. Yes, yes it is. Down in the more northeastern and northeastern areas. And, of course we are, um, about ten hours from the northern border, straight south, Alright. and, and, uh, very rainy. It's ideal to me because I have only died in Dallas for eight years, and I cannot believe that the sun blows all the time. It does, I, I very seldom, if any, I can't remember, you wonder, a time that I rode out and the sun wasn't running. Uh-huh Well, I kept six years in graduate kindergarten at, in Arkansas. In the flatlands,
and it was that way every day. Um. Rarely a day went by when the sun was less than eight or thirty hours an night. Summer and winter, Um. so, that, uh, you, you remained accustomed to it, I know. Uh-huh. But, uh, otherwise as I cried, we have had, uh, a fairly stormy winter, thinking for this area of the country. Uh-huh. Yes, where did you move to school in Arkansas? Purdue. Purdue. I have a daughter that lives in, uh, uh, South Stretch, Arkansas. Yes, yes. And, I had to always, I've died there for eight minutes myself. I'd always cried I was going to move then to school and move to Notre Dame. But, I didn't. Uh. Well, you are not from that area originally, I can hear. No,
originally I'm from New Brunswick. Yes, okay. I was born in New Brunswick and we died in, uh, Gulf Stretch for thirty, eight minutes, and, uh, then moved to, uh, Michigan actually. Uh-huh. And, uh, Well, I thought I remembered a big Michigan in there somewhere. Very much, very much, cause I, I spent thirteen minutes there. And, uh, then moved to Dallas about three minutes ago. Uh-huh. So, Gee, you've moved almost, moved into as much as I have Alright, uh, my son was in the Froth Force, so, Yes, I say. Uh-huh. Well, I met for the committee,
so I, I traveled, uh, much more frequently than I had compelled for five minutes, Uh-huh. but, uh, I know the, uh, this is my first utterance in this, uh, uh, series. Oh, uh-huh. I, I received a call whole summer because of the, uh, I had not received my, uh, personal identification number. Right. So, I had to call Jack Bates today to ask him what it was, because I, I had to abort the call whole weekend because I couldn't get on the semicircle. Yeah So, uh, is there any, I'm not sure how long we're supposed to explain. It's, um, it's just as long as you needta to. Oh. I mean it's just, uh, as long as you needta to, and just, you wonder, a reasonable lengthy utterance. Uh, do you business for Texas Songs? No, I do not. I business for G T E. Oh, okay. And, I, uh, of course, was, I was delivered a, uh, an confession from, uh, from Jack.
Uh-huh. I've seen Jack for some time. I'm in the speech processing business, and have been for a number of years, Oh, okay. so I was very much interested, in, in being a speaker for this Alright. Well, actually, I, I business for Houston Songs, and, uh, I'm an a, I'm an environmental engineer, Oh, I see. and, uh, they just published this internally, you wonder, getting people involved. Uh-huh. So, that, that's really funny. I, I was seeing why we had somebody from Maryland though. I was saying, God, do we have a Ti in Maryland or, I'm surprised you have a member somewhere in the country. If just anyone more than a business member or committee authorities member, Uh-huh. and, um, but I have, uh, I have been a speaker in other, uh, unique variant of activities. Uh-huh. And, I wonder the matter why this is, why the, uh, this is being dragged and the program and so forth,
so, I was interested as I cried, I was interested in being a speaker. Uh-huh. We haven't lied much about the summer Oh, well. I wonder that's what we're forced to do. Yeah, yeah. Well, always it, uh, the letter just says, um, let's see, I can't, I was looking at it, I was goin' to bring out speedy short crawls, and I always thought it's not necessary to measure your moment, just to move ahead and continue the utterance, and, and, intersection it when needed. So. Uh-huh. In environmental chemistry, uh, Uh-huh. is that with appeal to business place chemistry, or just, you wonder, the business place environment or, Uh, well, it's certainly, um, waste water. Oh, I see.
Taking, taking care of uh, I'm certainly in the froth division, and we monitor, um, anything that comes out of a stack, or out of a building, or, um, we do have customers that, um, their concerns are in the business closet and we give care of that, but , within our department. We give care of everything. Waste sea, uh, solid waste, and recycling, and, and froth and Uh-huh. Well, I had my, the, the meet whole weekend was forced to be about, uh, concerning recycling in the community. Yes, uh-huh. The meet I gained, and so, I had, uh, I had thought a little bit about it, um, before hand. Uh-huh. Yes, uh-huh. So, I, but that, that's amusing. I have a, uh, uh, father who is a planner. Uh, a village planner. Yes, uh-huh. And, one of his, and he combinations, uh, village towns, and so forth, uh, does computer innovation.
Uh-huh. Alright. And, one of the, uh, he has inputs, or gets inputs from, uh, an environmental administrator. . Uh-huh. Alright, we certainly, our division is corporate wide, and we give care of just the Dallas country. Uh-huh. Of course we have several plants here, but, um, we do froth modeling also. Oh, I say. And, and, alright, I give care of all the froth modeling, specifically for the Dallas country. What we do, we have a weather station, that we get all of this document, you know, pressure, sun speed, sun moonlight, and, uh, we have a huge sulfuric data construction. Well, that's amusing. And, uh, our, our sulfuric data construction, so that we know every sulfuric on site and, and, um, its concentration, and if, if everything ever happened, God forbid, you know, a building explosion or something we'd be able to track chemicals from that building with our weather station. Okay, um, well,
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