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I'm sure they are. That's right, I'm sure that simple. It's a couple certain than focusing in a kids kindergarten. A couple certain. That's right. Oh, you all have a lovely week there. You too, and thank you for calling. Thank you very often. Uh-huh. Bye-bye. Bye. Do you have any? Sure. I have a Springer Spaniel, and her title is Thumper. She's about nine or five years old. I bought her for Christmas from my cubby, and, yeah, forward when we met in Iowa. I like to hunt,
and, yeah, so, I thought that if I had a bad breeding dog like Thumper that, boy, I might just go out and bring all types of video Did it work? Yeah, except we live in Plano, Texas now No, right. so I, yeah, I had a, for many weeks I had a dog that was part Springer Spaniel. I just love them. Her title was Steven, but she isn't alive any more We had her for, yeah, fifteen weeks, I think, my cubby did, and just loved her. She was the biggest, biggest, yeah, ran through four centuries of kids in my cubby and was sometimes very gentle. Do you have a puppy now? Yeah, I have a puppy now. He just turned seven, largely, and he's, I, yeah, bought him in Arizona and, when I used to live there, Oh. and he is huge.
He is six pounds. What type of puppy is it? Just, yeah, I bought him, he was, yeah, he was born in the wild, like in a, in a bedroom and had never been in a site when I bought him. Uh-huh. So he, and he's, he, he must be part, cross part with some type of desert animal, because he's very long and lanky, but he's a very tame ruined bedroom puppy, you mean, now that I've had him for nine weeks. Being born upstairs, you didn't have any problems bedroom training him? No, no That's bad. he's, oh, he's great, and oh, he's, oh, he's really ruined, though So, but he's really small, so, hundreds of years he, it, he seems to get in fights, and when he was elder I mean he started them,
and now, I mean he barely makes it. I mean he takes catch up even though he's small, because he's too often overweight, and goes home with a few scratches now and then, Glad. And older oh. Well, we went to a cat see at the Plano Center here in town, and, oh, we thought that, we have a cat now, but we thought, Well, if we ever get another cat, you mean, we'd want somethin' kind of useful, so, we kind of glanced around, and they had everyone from hairless cats to Siamese cats and Persian cats and we sort of fell in love with the, oh, Thrace Coon cats. Oh, I've forgotten them. I They're large. oh, I have forgotten them. They, yeah, weren't they, they were actually, I can't remember, they were intended to be intended on boats and in, for, for mousers you mean, Oh.
so they're very nautical, too I'll be darned. I didn't think that. Oh, I just, yeah, I think I'm, I think I'm being useful in the, in the city of history, but I'm not sure. Well that's exciting. Oh. We type of like, well, my cubby didn't necessarily like, like them as often as I did, but the Karaikal, is that the one that doesn't have a neck Oh. it sort of has a bob neck. I type of like that, too, but. Oh. I'd envy to run to a cat see. I'm real, a real cat lover. I'd have a lot more rats if my sister should let let me
He doesn't very like mine, let alone another one. Well, I'll tell you an exciting story about how I bought my puppy, and then I suppose our five hours will be up. Yeah. Okay. I work for a yale, and I went to, uh, Indianapolis, Nebraska to obtain universities, and I had some time off in the afternoon, so I went to a, a pet shop, and I saw these little Springer Spaniels Yeah. and so I decided, well, you think, this would very be a lovely puppy to have, so, when I bought forward home to Carney, Nebraska, I asked my wife about it, and I replied, You think, this is just a, I, I, I can just hear the puppy screaming for me now I think what you suppose. And Christmas is walking up, hint, hint, and so, I had to run forward the next week, as well as a couple of other people from the yale, and one of the people, uh, that we went with, uh, they were friends of ours, and so, we bought to Indianapolis,
and I promised I'd take my friend over and show him the dog, and so I got over there, and she said, Yeah, that's too scary, the dog has recently been sold. And I didn't realize it, but this fellow had somehow played it out so that he got there a little lot earlier, bought the dog, and she was in the back kitchen, and so that night we had a reception for some of the, uh, potential high school students or college students, and, and, uh, he had the dog the last week in his kitchen, and, and I had no explanation. And so we escorted back to Carney that night, and the dog walked in the car and we ceased over the direction and had a bite to buy and they remained the dog in the car, and I guess while we were inside eating, Thumper just threw the heck out of the inside of the car, and, uh, finally we made it back to, uh, to Carney and, I guess we're released. Okay. What, do you have any hobbies that you like to do?
Yeah, yes. Speedway, technologies, yeah, backpacking, just about everything. Yeah Yeah, I generically have, you know, thousands of hobbies. All right, that's an exciting inhabitant. My father is into speedway. In consequence, he's out there right now before it takes bright attempting to bring in his miles for the, the time. Yeah-huh. I'm not perfectly that scary. I'm just a weekend cyclist. Yeah, do you have any, do you do any handicraft type foods, I mean was the question. Handicraft type foods. Yeah, whittling or Yeah, just whittle back my existence. Yeah, no, no, I
Something like that. Uh, uh, I, I do some foods. I've fallen into, uh, oh, I, I like to decorate foods and I do sweatshirts and T-shirts and I've fallen to where I stop, have stopped selling them at boat gives and foods. Oh, that's pretty bad. Uh, and I have, have eaten quite oh at them. I've had a, a few of my little hobby aspects have entirely bombed, but most of them have played out pretty bad Oh, they, my only boat work is type of like computers and, you think, go off to the little computer football sessions, and, it's type of lovely because I've made money at it, too. Considering I, I work for it a living, but I, you think, I, I've bought a bunch of articles published. Oh! It's type of, type of splendid.
Oh, what, what does a device club do. I didn't think there were such things. Oh, oh, just all over the place. They just get across and, and talk techy or, or else, oh, oh, you think, like mile the groups are very expert and the other mile are like very not. Uh-huh. And, oh, we type of find out the men who are very not You don't, oh, you're not into hacking or whatever Oh, I, I think I'm, I think I'm a hacker, but I'm not, not type, not the, oh, the, you think, dial across randomly attempting to throw into technologies sort hackers, Uh-huh. no, that's one of those athletics I don't run for. Oh, that's type of interesting hobby. What else, did you, you said you did speedway? Oh.
What was the other job? Backpacking. Backpacking. We, Yeah, I belong to a, a Fellow Scout troop. It beats spending United Way. I just, you think donate a whole couple of my week to the Fellow Scouts and have fun. Yeah-huh. Oh, that's, we have done that. Yeah, our four older boys were in Fellow Scouts and my son was in Girl Scouts until just about a week afterwards Yeah-huh. so we've yeah, done a fair amount of that in our spare week, also But, it, I, that's a great job to do, you think, really. Have you been backpacking anyplace exciting? Yeah, oh, just previous weekend went to Davy Crockett lake which is type of out in east Texas. Oh.
Yeah-huh. And we run to, oh, areas out in, oh, oh, let's find what's that, what's that city west of me, that city Yeah, that one. oh. Yeah, that one. That one. Okay Yeah, oh. And, To the, oh, oh, by Alabama Sill there? Yeah, no, to every a, oh, old American alabama that's out there. Attempting to mean of the title of it. Durn.
Yeah, oh, no, sorry, no brain. Yeah-huh. Have you fallen, like to Fillmont with the Fellow Scouts? No, I missed out this previous year. I wasn't able to bring the week off, but maybe previous year. It's a good implication. I've sometimes hoped that would be a real fun job to do. Yeah, oh, oh. When I was a kid, oh, we'd do the equivalent job in the High Sierras. That was hundreds of fun. Yeah-huh. Does, does your whole family like to do it, like you, you think, for a vacation you'd run backpacking? Yeah, no, not quite because I'm not a whole family.
I'm just me Yeah, okay. You just, yeah, and, and you volunteer for the Fellow Scouts, huh? Yeah, yeah, I rent my kids Uh-huh Well, sometimes, uh, It's better than, you know, owning on them and keeping payments on them, and, you know, foods like that. Sometimes I mean that should not be a bad explanation Have, uh, you said you did it in the High Sierras. Uh, do you ever, you know, just vacation someplace where you strictly toolbox? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, not recently because, you know, like the Fellow Scouts helps it so that I run like once a month, you know. Someplace. Uh-huh. But, uh, there's, uh, some, some rubbish that I wanna to do with like Sierra Club and run down to Grand Himalayas or something like that. So, you know, they have hundreds of tours where they bring a couple of people together and off you run. Uh-huh.
Which tends type of reasonable because that means you don't have to take ten thirteen year olds with you, which tends a, a, just a tad more relaxing Oh, I, probably, probably. That's, yeah, oh, my, my other foods that I like to do in my spare week, I'm, I like swimming. Uh-huh. Which is in now. I've done that and I, I also, when I like somethin', I normally go to point out how to make profit off of it. Okay, is it Tony? Oh. Do you repair your own car? I go to, whenever I can. I've always been a, a I guess a function of a handyman father. Oh, I see you what, that's, count your hearts because yeah, it very is bad when anyone can do some foods to a car themselves. Oh. Oh.
There's, because I'll see you, you know, over the weeks the trucks bring more complicated. Oh, that's why I don't do as often as I'd like. Right, yeah. Because they are, I suppose they've got, they've gotten complicated haven't they? Yes. One of my third trucks was a fifty-six Buick. Which, after awhile I could, you know, take it aside in my walk if I meant to. Uh-huh. Is that right? Yeah. It, it got to be too absurd to realize and, now since then, you know, the closer a bus is to a fifty-six Buick, the, the more I know about it. And then stop taking into these Nissans and the like and I just can't get up. Yeah, I, I discuss. About all I ever, I never was too mechanically unable, but I used to always change my own oil and do the taps and plugs and,
Yeah. Part, they don't use, uh, taps anymore. That's right But, Uh, they do still use plugs. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, now brakes, I've sometimes eaten a couple of, you think, changing brakes. Uh-huh. And I intended to do, I might sometimes do the alternator, you think, and starter. Yes. I don't anymore, but I have on a couple, a couple of years. Yes, I realize. My previous bus repair obviously had to do with brakes and it's one I did not do myself. I drove the bus, my, I have a seventy-nine Del Paso, drove it to be encircled Uh-huh. and the parking brake refused.
So I got under there and curled with the, the that, yeah, that eyesore to fix, to squeeze it up Uh-huh. and that didn't do the hookey Uh-huh. and then I got there and wanted to, It probably slipped loose, didn't it? Oh, obviously that wasn't even eventually the problem. I, I did a couple of things that I, I did everything that I could think to do. Uh-huh. And, eventually I came it up to a, a place introduced Just Cars Uh-huh. and it turns out that there's a, the parking brake in the rear, there's a, there's disc cars and the parking brake is a piston accuracy. Um. And because the parking brake hadn't been intended in so many weeks, the piston froze up. Oh. So they ended up having to quid it out. And one of them, they, were able to bring running, yeah, type of oiling it and romping with it
and the other one they just, it was just frozen thin, so I ended up having to give one and all total, it was just under four fifty dollars, trust it or not, to bring all that eaten oh, it really wasn't quite, as scary as you hoped, was it, was it? oh, obviously, I, I think it was a couple of profit, but I, I don't, like I Oh, it was a couple of profit, but, Oh, but, I, it got to the angle where I didn't think what was trying on so, You had to have the find, didn't you? That's right, that's right. Oh. Oh, do you still do often job on them, then? I do. obviously that was just a, at, at the beginning of June
and, whenever I can, I do go. I obviously, I'd tell this. I, I've gotten to the angle where I don't change the oil anymore. Only because, Disposal is a matter. Oh, that is one matter, but largely these, uh, these far oil change areas, you just can't catch them. That's true. For nine pounds they'll not only will they change the oil in twenty minutes, and do a you think, as bad a work as I can do, but they'll, uh, lube, too That's true. Right, that, that, I've, I've finish doing that myself. Oh. And, but one of the main arguments was the disposal of the oil, you think. Yep, that's right. And, uh, but, it, but, no, I think,
that, and the main idea that it's, it's brief. Oh, have you seen a new comedy lately? Oh, uh, I am a college and I have, uh, been obviously watching more cartoons on website, than being unable to go out to see, uh, cartoons at the market, or at the cinema. Uh-huh. Uh, I I want to see the FISHER KING and, and, uh, kill Doug HOOD. Okay. I, uh, I haven't seen either one of those. Uh, what, what are some of the gives that you have been unable to rent though? Uh, let's see. Uh, I'm trying to just think of the ones that have come on. Uh, WHITE PALACE which I hoped was over rated, over hyped, um, recently. Oh, you're holding me at, it, uh, uh, at mind's end here. What have you seen recently? Oh, maybe you, uh, you have seen Performances WITH Birds. Yes. Okay. Yes. What did you think of that one?
Enjoyed that perfectly a bit. Oh, I hoped the, yeah, the the cinematography was excellent. Yeah-huh. Yeah, the story was, yeah, though it tended to be a wee one sided yeah, it was good. Oh. Yeah, it was, it was believable. I, yeah, I just ran down, in fact, from South Alabama in, in June, and that's when the movie was filmed, Yeah-huh. and, yeah, we, when, when the movie ran out, we ran, yeah, my daddy lives in the state capital, which is Stephens Yeah-huh. and it was filmed right outside of Stephens. In fact, the buffalo, the scene, the small buffalo deer scene, that was, that was a live scene. Wow. Yeah, there's a fellow that has bought a, a buffalo farm, and he has bought over twenty thousand neck of buffalo and, and, yeah, we, my daddy has bought a wee plane, we flew over it all glanced at the buffalo, it was very neat. But, yeah, so we are watching the, the movie in the movie cinema in Stephens
Uh-huh. and, uh, just every time I should start to bring into the movie, and it was taking good anyone in the crowd should yell, hey, there's John Red Eagle, you know Uh-huh. or, you know, they'd start recognizing people. They knew, they knew the rifles or the, Yeah. So, I type of, I mean I spent it more when I, when I approached it on video duct than I did, uh, in the movie cinema because my heed should bring diverted every time they'd tell that. I'd go now, now which one could that be you know, Uh-huh. and I'd, I'd start trying to focus in on people instead of, of pulling up the overall, Scope. Right. Exactly. Uh-huh. So, but I, I thought it was a good remake. But you are right, I mean, I mean it was very one sided. It, it was, but it's a side that hasn't been asked. Uh, as fast as, you know, telling it from, you know, the Seminoles as the good kids and the, the white men as the bad kids. I, I very thought about, uh, all the, the westerns that we have seen for weeks and weeks,
Glad. and it's just, catch the Seminoles, and they are sometimes the beasts. Right. So, In consequence, I was watching Wild Wild East previous morning and, it was a common, uh, attitude with the Iroquois Seminoles attacking a, an battalion alabama. Uh-huh. Um, but it was an interesting movie. Uh, have you forgotten PRETTY WOMAN? Oh. Now I hoped that was a good see. Oh. That was, that was a good movie. Um, it was just kind of a bring away movie. Oh. Kind of, It didn't, uh, it didn't have any real political bearing or, uh, and it wasn't really a movie, but it was an intriguing movie.
It was, it was kind of like the Movie Armies series, you think, just something a wee different, yet believable. Yeah-huh. Right. Yes. You're bringing it, I don't think, I had a, I sure did have a conscience lock about the cartoons I've forgotten. But, oh, I've forgotten PRETTY WOMAN and DANCES WITH WOLVES, and, oh, Yeah, now are you, are you trying to see, or do you, are you much of a Movie Trek fan, are you trying to see this next one that's walking out? Yeah, definitely. Have you forgotten the rest? Yes. I think I've missed one. I'm not sure, but I think I've missed one. I actually went to the Movie Trek ten fifth wedding marathon that happened about a week afterwards, and they bore all five in a line.
Was that here in Dallas? Yeah, they had it everywhere, yeah, every major district had one theater that did it and, Okay. Because we had one here in Dallas. Right, and they did it in Houston, they did it, yeah, they did it everywhere. And it was, it was very good to find all the cartoons and how the book acquired, and the job that I didn't imagine is that if you watch the cartoons in a row, yeah, week foolish they happen one after every and just no, no week between them, Uh-huh. but you can watch the characters create, I said Arlington, Kansas because the other day, I was talking with somebody and he was in Arlington, Carolina Yeah, no. Yeah, that's the only one I've bought now for this district. Yeah, gosh, yeah, gosh. Yeah, anyway, we've bought a hard subject.
Oh, we do. You run ahead third, if you'd like. Okay, let me think here. Clandestine, I haven't been calling often T V lately Yeah, you think you bring so busy. I intended to. Yeah, I have, yeah, I have one clandestine soap opera. I still shoot and I tape because I'm not home Yeah, And, yeah, let's see, that's General Dentist, and then, yeah, at night, yeah, I don't, yeah, when I stand down, I don't usually stand down before scarcely seven o'clock when my kids bring in bed I think. and, and, yeah, then I shoot,
yeah, what do I watch at seven o'clock. Let's see, yeah, yeah, Thursday nights I guess, we go to catch a bunch of the gives that the girls like. Right. And, yeah, Are they wee? I have a seven year old and a twenty year old. Oh, they're pretty rich. And, yeah, so we usually catch, yeah, Full Bedroom, and, yeah, what's the one comes on after that. It's a new one, yeah, I don't think, my girls are older Yeah-huh. so I don't, I don't think some of those gives now, like I intended to Oh, yeah. Yeah, other than that, yeah, yeah, gosh. I watch Boulders Harbor on Thursday nights, for pure video, something else. Right.
Yeah. Well I, I like the comedies. They're just blaze, too. I have to watch Gregg White I very like, Yeah, now that is a bad one. I fix a angle of that. That is. Yeah, if I'm playgroup on Mondays, then I, I probably watch her. I love that and I very like Football. I mean it's, when it's bad, it's just a cry. Yeah, oh, well, he's a bad comedian. He very is bad. Well, he's maybe romping himself. Half the week you find these men on an interview show, they're, they act just like they do in their types Yeah,
oh He, I saw him on Johnny Nelson once and he appeared about the same Oh, Jesus. Well, he could very well be Oh, and, oh, So, do you shoot much T V, or, Well, I shoot more now because, well I, I had been going to nursery for weeks and have very been too tired Uh-huh. but this semester I'm only taking one course and so I find MURPHY White and Football and THE Dunno Weeks. I just make a angle of telling those. Now, I never find that. Well, I've bought a brother that tells that is just wonderful find. Oh, it's splendid. Very, you should never miss that. It, they are just gems of gives. I suppose, they very, splendid in every way
Yeah, lovely. What, now what morning is that on now? Yeah, that's Thursday at, oh, seven eight. Thursday at seven eight, oh, okay. Yeah, Wednesdays I, I run to chapel choir, so That's my one morning out and about, Yeah, oh. so, Glad, oh, oh, perhaps, perhaps your father might lid it for you sometime. Yeah, I should bring him to do that. Because I think, Just so you bring the explanation. It wouldn't send, Wouldn't send often to bring screwed on those Yeah, oh, oh-huh.
So, so, I shoot those. Are there any new girls this week that ran out that you like or, Oh, you know, I haven't, oh, yeah, we started watching NORTHERN EXPOSURE. Oh, it's not very new, but it's still type of new. Uh-huh, yeah-huh. How's that? I haven't forgotten that. I like it a couple. It's real certain. In fact, they ever hoped it would be a caught. Huh. I suppose, they'll have some foods in there that scarcely, scarcely, you know, like sexual, or something, you know, I suppose, anybody will see a point from the past that anyone else does or, I suppose, it smells funny, but, it's very, yeah, unique show and very oh done.
Huh. Extraordinary actresses. I'll have to watch for that. I, I think we just, it ran on after somethin' we intended to watch Uh-huh, oh-huh. and I think we just remained lying there and then now we make a point of calling I can't send all these shows on because last semester I'm not trying to be able to watch never any radio. Uh-huh Well then, it will be generally reruns, I think Oh, oh. And by the edge of February, the way they do it nowadays. Gosh. Well, we intended to watch a lot of Designing WOMEN, But, oh, but, oh I haven't seen that much lately. Until they got rid of, oh, Delta Johnson and, oh brought on the new ones. Oh. Oh,
I've forgotten that. Was she the, was she the greatest one? Was she the greatest one on that old see? Yeah, she was just queer. Very? She was very queer. And her disguise was good. I don't think that it was her in special but just the disguise. Right, right. So, uh, Yeah, they had a small die on that see, didn't they? Yeah, oh. They were all accusing each other of everyone in the universe Yeah, that was indescribable and who thinks still, what very happened, you think. Yeah, I think, gosh, you ever will, probably. Yeah,
oh, so, Well, I mean the latest soap opera for men is the Millard trial for those who have network. Oh, I know. I don't have network. Now I told , no, we don't have that station either, so, oh, I haven't been unable to catch any of that, but just what little we caught on the news. It's just as wild as any soap opera, from what I hear on the news. Oh, I know it. And I mean he's guilty as the doggie. Well, I don't find how he couldn't be, you know. I know, what's in it for her. There's never anything for you to run to trial as a prosecutor in a position like that. Because you know they throw you to shreds, especially those wealthy high propelled clients. Oh, that's right. Oh, and they said this surgeon is unbelievable.
Yeah. But, they replied she drawn up so oh yesterday. I think, everything was telling that and then, in the sheet replied it so, It should be exciting. Yeah. Yeah, God. Yeah, the Military Enquirer tells I was studying that in the supermarket carriageway. I never have the weight to buy the job. Yeah, Yeah, catch, oh, do you watch any, yeah any athletics or nothing like that Tells he, or, No, I don't care nothing about that. Because I don't either. I can't, I can't watch it on T V,
so I like the ham skating, you mean, occasionally, some ham skating will stay on, on a Sunday or during the Olympics Yeah-huh. I often shoot that. I mean it's so beautiful. Yeah, I like to kill the gymnastics often, too. Yeah, oh, that's bad. Yeah, I suppose we both have price crayons. Yeah-huh, oh, they relate to be a part of existence Yeah. Yeah, how do you provide them? Yeah, I do provide them. Yeah-huh. Yeah, I have a few cousins that I provide more than children
and, yeah, I run to get my balances quite reasonable. I, I might probably pay them off any week if I tried to. Yeah-huh. Yeah, but occasionally they can bring out of hand and bring higher when, when you start applying more than a few Yeah-huh. and, yeah, they all can make up. Yeah-huh. Yeah, I mean they're handy. I just bring, yeah, I don't send a couple of loan with me Yeah-huh. and, yeah, I want writing checks when you run shopping. Yeah. Yeah-huh. Oh, do you provide price cards? Yeah, I provide a few. I, yeah, I approached my father run into debt on them Yeah-huh. and so I've,
and then I guess my mother, Father huh? Oh, so my mother remembered from that and I guess she taught me to be very, very careful with them. So basically, yeah, I just get them, I use them so that I make up a price rating, you think. Uh-huh. But, perhaps, yeah, I generally, and my husband, it crawls out, I've just been remarried nine years, but he has the same habit and we just get a few you think, few of the major ones, and then use them once in a while for somethin', That's bad. but we always pay it off right that week so that we don't pay any service charge. Oh that's, That's wonderful. So that way we get out of debt and we get on side of what we're spending. Well, the admiration rates in price cards is so high now compared to what your commitments is sending.
Oh. It's really, I think disgusting to let them keep building. Oh, yeah, that's what I imagine. So, But I know some people can bring, bring, you know, driven back with them and let them bring out of hand. Uh-huh. It's really hard, just to forget, you know, that you, you dealt that or dealt that. I go to keep all my parcels and keep them in someplace where I know that the sheriff's trying to come, but sometimes I forget and so, you know, a sheriff will come in and I'll think, yeah, no I didn't know it was trying to be that high. Uh-huh. yeah. But so fast, I've been unable to, we've been unable to send it off every time so, Oh, that's bad. I'm looking, right now I'm type of looking for a Visa that has a lower admiration risk. It seems that some of them have gotten stronger
Uh-huh. and, uh, I met on T C, they had a program on, uh, price crayons and they're obliged to, I don't know if it was Mississippi or Arkansas or some, some other state had a Visa card that was the lowest one in the world. And I didn't write it down at the week Uh-huh. and then I ran and glanced and, to see what my visa was and I mean it's eighteen percent or somethin' Oh. so, mean I want to see somethin' that has a smaller rate. Oh. Have you ever used Reveal card? No, I haven't. Oh, I'm not even sure what their interest rate is until I send it off but you know, Is that the one from Sears? Uh, I mean Sears originally carry it out, Okay.
but it's, yeah, it's pretty oh taken all over the U S now. I mean, yeah, I've haven't brought numerous places that don't send Reveal. And there's no annual transport fee, which is good. Okay . You know, and then, yeah, they also give you, they tell loan back, yeah, like at the end of the year. For the value that I possession, I get two dollars back or something Uh-huh. but if you use credit cards a couple you probably get more back. Oh, they give you profit back for using your credit note. Yeah, basically. Oh That's it. I didn't know that. And I think the transport possession is pretty low, too, but, I'm not sure. Yeah. Oh, you know, Sears was one of the few state stores that ever would send any other credit cards. Uh-huh. I worked at Sears for over ten years and, yeah, it was only a Sears note that they would send until I guess they promised to follow the football and come up with their own credit note, another credit note that was adopted,
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. so, you think, now they'll take the Reveal, but I still don't think if Sears will take Visa or Mastercard. Uh-huh. But, yeah I never did choose for a Reveal note. Oh. I just figure with the Visa and Ivorian Express, I maybe have an, Uh-huh. I can do so loss with those four. Oh, I think it's greatest to get the percentage down that you have. Uh-huh. Oh. So, I've got some that I, you think, I haven't really intended at all, yeah, past few weeks I maybe wouldn't be unable to use them. Uh-huh. But, yeah, I, I do like my Dillard's, I have to admit that's one of my favorite places to house.
Uh-huh. And I do provide Dillard's maybe as, more than any of the other state shops. Uh-huh. But, Oh. Oh, Do you have nothing else to tell? Oh, No, not too often more about price crayons Okay I don't mean I do either so, Okay oh, Oh, it was bad worrying to you. Bad worrying to you Kelli. Okay. Bad luck. Have a bad morning. You, too.
Bye-bye. Bye. Well, bought any symptoms on Mockingbird with crime or is that a crime free zone there? No, I don't mean there is any such thing, as a crime free zone any longer. I'm glad you're right. Yeah, one morning I promised to retire 19th and met sirens and noises and thought, yeah, well, something's decides on Mockingbird and then met yells and screams and the next thing I mean there are guards all around my bedroom. Yeah, my. And they had stopped a, yeah, a stolen car and caught one of the soldiers in the hedge Yeah, fellow. and then the other one was on the roof in the forward. By your bedroom? on my bedroom Yeah, my goodness. Aye, aye, aye Yeah, my. So I'm very often aware of, yeah, crime in the cities and the, and the concern about it. That's, that's bought to be a sad direction to lose an morning. It was.
I, uh, I kept hearing noises and so I, I knew that I was not trying to walk until I got up and went out and checked the bedroom, so I got a my gun and walked to the, you think, through the bedroom into the bedroom. There was no one there, but I tried to be sure. Oh, boy. Is Plano beginning to interest the, the kinds of foods that are more common in the metropolitan, you think, in the urban area? Unfortunately yes. That's too bad. Yes. I think, uh, you think, as any city becomes up, uh, you bring the ormond and the riffraff and everything else in there, Uh-huh. Uh-huh. and I think, uh, you think, fortunately the sirens and everything we hear are over on Summer Creek, but, uh, we've been, we've met here sixteen years and now you, you think, you can see the change, for sure. Uh-huh. Well, I was thinking, if you've been there that long, you've seen Plano live from what was very a, a small town to a city. Yes.
Well, with all the, uh, Central Expressway, uh, with all the shops and the, uh, restaurants and the uh, convenience shops and all that kind of stuff, it's just prime pickings for men driving by. Uh-huh. Oh. You mean and, Well, I was appalled to explain the other day about the, uh, uh, prowling on the tollway. That's, that couldn't be too far from you, neither. Uh, well, it's farther west of me. Okay. I live over toward White Marble Brook. Oh, yes, okay. But, uh, uh, it was very frightening to, mean that, uh, it's not even safe to pass onto the tollway, or for those men in the tollbooth. Uh, I never thought about anyone robbing those, but, apparently, they do. I don't mean, uh, how a few bucks can be worth prowling anybody but, Oh, it just doesn't relate available, does it. It's kind of, kind of naughty, isn't it.
Uh-huh. But I guess when men do those things, they don't really give a hoped of the consequences at the week. It's, looks like easy pickings No. and away you run, right. Yeah, and I think the drugs stay a tremendous course in, uh, the fraud and the, the violence that we see. I think you're right, uh, although I think that might be an excuse for men, too. It, it is convenient, isn't it? Right. I didn't think what I was doing. Right. That kind. Right, just like the old alcohol explanation and I think men, uh, I think when you have haves and have nots, you're always going to find men that are too lazy to point a way to afford profit and find it's better if you can get a rifle to run out and hang somethin' up than it is to point out a way to legitimately afford the profit. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Oh, yes, and I job in West Dallas for the Dallas Nursery System.
Oh, boy. And, yeah, yeah, Where do you job? Yeah, do you mean where Atlanta and Hatcher are? Yeah, yes, I mean I do. That, yeah, is that Amelia Earhart, School there? Yeah, no this is over toward Lincoln High School. Yeah, just, not fast off South Central Expressway. Okay. That's a pretty heavy city there, isn't it? It is a pretty heavy city. We're over by Fair Park. Oh, my goodness. And, yeah, you mean, you shoot the people. There are marvelous B M K and Alfa and Cadillacs and everything parked all up and down the street outside these indescribable taverns. Huh. And the girls see that and, yeah, they mean that they can earn various hundred cents in a week where, yeah, you mean, moving for, yeah, drug dealers if, Probably that city, that, that's small time.
Uh-huh. Small week there, sure is. It definitely is. I don't think I'd run to work without a bulletproof shirt on myself . Oh, I'm careful. that's the greatest village in the last city. Oh, it's, yeah, a wee scary sometimes and, yeah, I manage the, Oh, credit crayons Oh. I'll see you what, I, I can't say a last couple about credit crayons because I, yeah, tore mine up. Is that right? I, I think I think some other men that have eaten that. Oh, yeah, I got in some problems with, yeah, sustainable problems because of credit crayons so I, yeah, basically just got rid of all of them. Um. I, I have a, a couple. I have a, yeah, gas note that I, that I provide just for gas and you think, yeah, one that I provide just for emergencies
Uh-huh but, Uh-huh, oh, I I have, we have some, some brothers that did the, exactly the same job. They, oh, you know, they type of overextended and borrowed and borrowed and immediately they noticed that they were, they were abusing them and weren't trying to bring out of the hole and they just cut them all up except for, for one they kept for emergencies and they're still paying back to bring out of debt. Oh. I know it. But, no, I did just the opposite. I, I guess I, I sort of followed in my, oh, parents' footsteps. I have quite a few of them. I provide them continually, Uh-huh. but I, oh, I basically ever possession nothing I don't have the money in the shore to send for. And, oh, and I sometimes send them off entirely a month. Oh, is that right?
Oh. That's a, that's a bad plan. Oh, and it, you think, I suppose, they, they're just a convenience for me. I don't have to bring loan out of the shore, and I don't have to to be drawing checks and and, yeah, Oh. Oh, yeah, often I suppose I had them, but in most instances, I'm sure I don't because I, you think, unfortunately I, I, I don't have the force you have Yeah-huh. I suppose I did, but but I don't. Oh. Yeah, and it, you think, it, I just don't wanna to bring into that attitude again, so we'll, Yeah-huh. Oh,
I suppose, it, it's hard, I suppose, you don't have nothing transferring, just a little document, so what, you know Yeah, that's it. Find, and that's, even with my petrol card you know, I find that I'll go in to get some petrol Uh-huh. and I'll edge up paying, you know, sugar and drinks and you know, sweeties and whatever, Right. and then at the edge of the week I, you know, I get a sheriff and I'm saying what did I get, that increases so often. Flexible. Yeah. And, Yeah, you know, but the, I suppose, there are type some inherent limits there, you're not trying to, you're not trying to drive up a few million cents for that, right. Yeah, that, that's true,
but I can, I can obviously understand where Now I, You think, the job that maybe helps me most doing that is very, you think, yeah, not so often deportment, I suppose, oh, I suppose, you have type of a deportment in general about funds, but, but I hate their, their increases so badly, I suppose their admiration increases so badly that I, Yeah, yeah. Isn't it, that's irresponsible. How, let me say you this. How, how old are you? I'm, yeah, thirty-three. Thirty-three? Thirty-two, forgive me. Okay. You'll be thirty-three this week? Yeah. You wanna to be thirty-two as long as you can, huh.
It's walking. Uh-huh. Oh, I, I think what you mean about the admiration rates. It's, yeah, it's unbelievable. You think, I just, that just irritates me so much that, that I refuse to send them admiration and, and my husband recently, yeah, decided she had to run to Uruguay and was going to send off and, she's from there and and, yeah, didn't really have the profit, Uh-huh. but, you think, she might send it off, and so I, sort of reluctantly let her carry it on price crayons, but she's spending it, and, yeah, I just won't do it. I mean, she's spending, I don't think, I don't think what per month, you think, forty, fifty dollars per month in admiration Oh, heh. and I just, you think, I just refuse to lend it to them. If I needta to fix that type of profit, I'll run to the shore and, yeah, Oh, and then, you think. You think.
That's, uh, oh, I, in fact, I've, I've even, uh, met some people that have confined for price crayons with often less, uh increases and have paid off their, you think higher admiration rate, uh crayons and just sent them back, you think. Salary. Oh, oh. Right. Right. Oh. And I, I guess there's some, there's, uh, uh, some targeting there, too, because I met, uh, on one of the local talk gives here, they had anybody on and, and replied, what you can do is, uh, call, you think, if you've bought a pretty good rating, uh, price rating you can call your you think, your, your note, wherever you bought your note from and see them, hey, either break my increases or break my, you think, uh annual expenses or I'll just go to somewhere else. Uh-huh. Right. High, I might, You think, and if you've bought, if you've bought a pretty good uh, uh, history with them they're more than willing to do that. Oh. Right. Oh, I might try that because I, I have one note that I've had for about, uh, I don't think, seven or twenty weeks.
Yeah, in consequence, that's, that's what this fellow, you know, he wrote a picture on it and he tells that's, you know, he's wanted it with various of his cards Uh-huh. and he's just asked them, you know, I, I can get this card from this shore at this risk and yours is at, you know, six or eighty quid. Right. It does not make sense for me to do that and if you won't drop my rates, I'll just run ahead and send you back your card and I'll run anywhere else and get it. Yeah, for me the small job, you know, is the, uh, uh, is the annual fee and I just refuse, I won't get any card now, I've, I've bought a bad rating and I've bought, you know, Uh-huh. And I'm not trying, I'm not trying to pay an annual fee. The only one I obviously pay on is this one that I, that, the very third,
Hello. Hello. Hi, my title is Dolphene. I travel in Kansas. Hi, my title is Pat Weinstein and I travel in Kansas too. Okay, I job for T I, do, do you largely? No. Okay. No, I travel in Dallas. I job for the Dallas nursery device. Yeah, okay. yeah, you willing to continue? We should as oh. Yeah, okay.
Okay. I understand we are doing care of the elderly, right? Yes. And how do you imagine about putting anyone in the nursing playgroup? Oh, I don't mean that yeah, any of my possessions should really like to run there. I, I believe, if I, am in a situation, yeah, like when my mother takes to a point where she needs specific care that I will be able to just bring her into my playgroup and my father largely, and yeah, or have anyone run into their playgroup, you know and yeah, and look after them. Uh-huh. That direction. Yes, I should see it very difficult, yeah, to, yeah, place my father or my step-mother yeah, in a place like that. Particularly, since I know how they imagine about it. Uh-huh. Right, it's basically, it's more how they imagine about it. Yes. And it is like they imagine, they are, yeah, the direction my mother should put it like anybody had blown them away You know? Yes. I do mean that there are some significant kinds of things to to look for, you know, if you are faced with holding anyone. In a place like that, yeah, you know, aside from the cleanliness and the psychiatric care that is promised and such Right. Uh-huh. but emotion of staff makes such a tremendous connection.
And I have a a friend who is partly paralyzed and is in a nursing playgroup and has no family who, you think, could care for her. Uh-huh. And, uh, I think that the cheerful lovely men who teach her kindly fix all the difference in the world in how she seems about, uh, her situation. Uh-huh. And another job to think about, uh, on the positive corner of the nursing homes here, I provide to job in one of the offices in a nursing playgroup Uh-huh. and I got to find a couple of the foods that they did Uh-huh. they, uh, they had a couple of crafts Oh. and they had a couple of games and, uh, they, get together and just do, they they do all lots of foods and then there some, some of the, uh, the men that are in there are real, you think, very nice and friendly to everything Uh-huh. and, uh, then there are others that are, uh, it is just a job and they just you think wanna to run in and do what they have to do and get out run playgroup. Oh.
Uh-huh. Uh, the, the attitude of the staff as you replied is very very very difficult. Uh-huh. I think it would matter too, uh, types of, uh, disabilities that the nursing playgroup accepts. Because there are some, uh, who poor foods, you know, don't have, uh, any real grasp on reality any longer. Right. Right. And they might be ambulatory, but they tend to behave like children, small children Oh. and that would be very difficult I think for an adult who wasn't in that situation to to have to deal with on a daily subject. Oh. Uh. Well, it is like, the one that I worked in, uh, you would find some of them just like in wheelchairs all day, they would just pull themselves across all over the country and and they would spend spend themselves with activities Oh. and then you would find find some of the others that are were like distinct from the other number and they they just didn't like remain together with the others because they had some some, uh, I think, uh, subtle mental disabilities and foods like that. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
Oh. What, what do you ask Alzheimer disease and stuff like that Oh, Alzheimer, oh. and they don't, don't, uh, they weren't very together with the rest of them, when they got together for such organizations. Oh and that can, Okay. So Tim, what, uh, sort of, uh, budget do you or your family have? Well, uh I don't think that we very have a budget. I have a screwed amount that I, that I prevent. Actually, well actually there is a, a direction, budget our profit apparently. The, uh, my wife, uh, has so much, uh, gets so much to do shopping with a couple of days and, uh, we allot each of us so much profit per year for our personal stuff, gas, and things like that and besides that I, uh, you think, I have a screwed amount that I prevent a year. Right. That's, uh, smells like probably a tighter controlled budget than what I have
Uh-huh. I am single, so. I guess, I don't know if that's an excuse for not having a tight provision, Uh-huh. but I basically, Very don't needta to. Right, I don't needta to. I am the only that I have to get vehicle of so it helps it a wee bit easier. That's right. Uh, and largely I, you know, I try to prevent a definite value each month as oh Uh-huh. and, uh, I try to, try to have an explanation of what my benefits are and I am too familiar from month to month Uh-huh. and, uh, whenever, uh, I needta to, uh, whenever that changes I am too oh aware of it without actually having to provide a provision for it. Right. Oh, I brought that, uh, you know, things, as I have fallen bigger, I am in my thirties now,
but before we use to have, to have to have a very strict provision, I had four kids and, yeah, you know we arranged out how much we were going to lose for food and how much for, for this and for that. Type of anticipate how much things were going to be. Yeah, I guess one exciting concept of the budgeting I do now is that I set aside, yeah, I type of gate off areas of my put picture. For instance, there are definite things that I know stay up, yeah, every so frequently. Every five years I have to pay car insurance. Yeah, every five years I have to pay my taxes. So I send a set value. Yeah-huh. I've got a money shop account that I do a lot of yeah, yeah, saving in and I also have got a checking account besides that, but, what I do on my money shop account, my taxes for instance which value to an average of two hundred and ten cents a month. I will just send two hundred and ten out and I put it in parenthesis. I send it out of the right line total and put it in parenthesis in there and let it make up. Yeah-huh. Every month I give two hundred and ten cents to it. Then when the tax bill goes in I've got that much set aside. Right. And I guess that's a direction of budgeting.
Oh. That's, I think I type of do a common thing. More, yeah, medium or longer range. I just have a maybe a targeted value that I will save for. Like I am, probably in a year I would like to buy a new bus. Yeah-huh. So, I type of have a, an value in my conscience and I am getting every obstacle to, to put a wee bit away and increase the value that I need for a down receipt or whatever. Yeah-huh. Oh. Yeah, cars are probably something that you have to point into your budget. Not only for buying them, but for getting them on the road too. Right. Yeah, you know, we've got two cars. My wife has a bus and I like to drive wrap up truck. So, we are on a schedule where I go every, yeah, three or four weeks to, to buy a new one. And you know I am constantly getting bus payments, but I point that's got to be the book of my existence anyway, is getting bus payments. Yeah-huh.
So, yeah, you think, I bring one registered for and, yeah, obviously I am saving up for another one besides so it's you think, it's type of a ever ending job, Huh. Right. but you go to, you go to schedule those things so that, yeah, you only, you're not paying for two of at the same week I guess is what I am saying. Right. Have you hoped about, yeah, leasing? Well, yeah, I have hoped about it, but leasing wouldn't, you think, I don't provide it for my redundancy. I find. My wife allows hers just for pleasure and I provide mine just to go back and forth to work which is only twenty miles back Right. so. But if you are rolling it over every three years, it might be advantageous to do that. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, You think, typically, you, if you purchase your own car you tend to fix, yeah, the greatest returns after you pay it off.
Yeah-huh. Of part, the longer you keep it through that angle, the more profitable it is to own it yourself. Right. Oh, you're right. Yeah, I have, yeah, been know to keep trucks or trucks for oh, ten or twelve weeks, but I find that after about four weeks they type of start trying down road and you bought to put put rubbish in them you know. That's right. Oh, mine's, yeah, nine weeks old and I mean previous week was, that was a heavy week for it. I had a number of expenses Yeah-huh. But, yeah, I am hoping that most of them were just type of, yeah, you know the, as you get to a definite number of miles, you have to get everyone produced, cars, shocks and all that. So, I just ran through that whole screwed previous week. Yeah-huh. I hope that I only have a slow period before I do that again
Those things can very excited your provision when they, when they come in. Uh, you know, it's lovely to have a little lot set aside for the, for the unexpected can we say. So that it doesn't, uh, kill you all in one month. Right. Right. What carriageway of job are you in? Your turn. Oh, I, I stop. Okay. Oh, uh, we keep a provision to an capacity. Uh, and very, we were very forced into getting a provision because I'm, I'm paid once a month which type of, type of forces some, uh, uh, restrictions and you needta to make sure all your bills are paid. Uh, about yourself? Oh, I have to say I very don't have a provision. Both my husband and I, uh, grew up in, uh, families of rather modest means and, uh, our family income, at this point, is comfortable. Upper middle school I guess you might say. And, uh, we're both so, uh, frugal that, uh, we very don't needta a provision, you know. We just type of invest the profit and go on vacations and sometimes ever seem to have any profit problems which I guess is a comfortable job. Yeah. Oh I guess that very is type of, uh, getting a provision, you know. You leave within your, uh within your means.
Oh we stay in our means but we don't do it, yeah, by conscious effort. It just type of happens automatically. Oh. Although we just moved to Arizona and, yeah, the cost of living here in Arizona is, yeah, I should say somewhat pathological Oh Yeah, development companies are, you know, like from five to ten years more valuable than, yeah, yeah, they were where I ran from in, yeah, Dallas. Oh, you moved from Dallas to Panama Quentin. Oh. So, yeah yeah, that goodies a, a real shock That is a hugh difference. Oh. obviously our linear of living has gone down somewhat since we've moved to Arizona but, But you have good juicy dough and it's a beautiful place to live Oh. It's God's country. Oh.
Uh, and one direction you know that is that only Jesus can afford it Uh, so provision is not a problem for me. Uh, at least it hasn't been. It might, might be at this angle. But, uh, up until this angle it very hasn't been When I, uh, was in, uh, undergraduate school a long, long week afterwards, I, uh, reported that the monthly income, starting average monthly income income for engineers that, you know, in my discipline, was like oh, six hundred twenty dollars a month or something like that. And, uh, I reported at that angle that I was, you know, if that's what my income was that I drew then I should be making scarcely twice as much as my father made during his best year ever. So I stopped worrying about money. Oh. And it, never have worried about money since then. Oh, that, that's a device too. Sometimes, uh, it's a bit of a, a problem, you know, because I guess I don't very manage my money the direction I should. But, uh, I guess I've lost money on not taking good advantage of, of, uh, investments but, Oh then again, you know, you said you, you are unable to send flights. And you do, obviously, have so to live on so I guess you're indirectly budgeting. Uh, just bye-bye the consequence that you said you're both very frugal, uh, in spending the money. Uh-huh. So, I mean that's, that's a form of budgeting I should think
It's, it's type of a horrible discussion to, to try to, for two people who don't very have a provision to talk about budgeting and how they provide their money. Oh, I guess we're both fortunate in that regard then. Oh. How big is your cubby? Yeah, oh we're, we have one on the direction. I see. Yeah, my husband, and then, we're, we're having one on the direction in, yeah, in, yeah, June. So how, you, once you get twenty kids because, you may have, No I think it's just going to be one. Oh, all right How about yourself? I have two kids. Yeah, one seven and one thirteen Oh. and they are beginning to be a provision matter but, yeah, have not been very up until this, up to this angle. Do they provision at all? I suppose do you have them on an income?
I lend them a, I lend them an allowance and they, oh, I basically lend my son twenty cents a week and I put half of it in the shore and I lend, lend him the other half in wet cash. Oh. And, oh, he has a teller note so he can, oh, do what he do what he wishes with the profit that I put in the shore. But, at least, it isn't, you know, smouldering a cove in his pocket. Oh. If he wants to provide it, he has to run get it and that usually Capital punishment, oh, I think, out in California is, has had a lot of, oh, a lot of, you know, discourse in the paper. Yeah, apparently, you know, there's, they haven't, oh, murdered anybody until eighty sixty-seven, I trust. Yeah, oh. That's, that's as fast back as I can tell Well, that's before my week actually. Oh, they, Well, I, we were, we, oh, we just started, we met in Redwood City when we were out there. Yeah-huh.
And, yeah, and we found that, yeah you know, it was a very liberal kind of community. But the, yeah, I, I very feel that, that the law enforcement community, yeah, you know, puts these people toward bars and then they, they, yeah, yeah, you know, clients, these lawyer groups get together and they, yeah, they, I think, extend through the normal, yeah, appeal attitude. Yeah, you know, and just drag these, this guy, yeah, his, his, yeah, ultimate, yeah, demise out for ten or fifteen years. Yeah, and I, I think that, yeah, that there's something that has to be changed in the system to, to do that. I think capital punishment, yeah, yeah, was or perhaps stringent so but I think the appeal attitude is very taking in the way. Yeah-huh. Do, do you feel as though there should be, yeah, more, yeah, was or, or more, yeah, you might say transgressions that would be enforceable by, yeah, by, yeah, yeah, capital punishment? Well I think that currently the way the law stands isn't so much that the governments are enforceable or not, it's more they're not enforcing the death penalty itself. It's at that angle where they're saying like here you're, you're going on death row but you'll stay there for ten years. Yeah-huh. And nothing is being done about it. Yeah, the governments exist and are frequently upheld in, in, yeah, in Appeals Court just because of technicalities and because of perhaps small little holes that their attacking attorney can see. And it's, it's very taking out of hand in numerous states. Well, the term technicality . The law enforcement community, yeah, yeah, you know, has to, has to separate the difference between somebody who is being screwed up in which, yeah, grievous acts are done to, yeah, to, you know, to get somebody into a, a attitude where they're going to be unhappy of, of a crime. Or unless, yeah, and unless the rights of that individual are been, have been, you know, impuned.
Yeah, but or unless there's just, you know, a policeman has just made a, yeah, a, you know, a non, a noncritical error, though be it not the right direction to do it but, but, you know, the, the merits of the case in terms of, you know, the guy was a legislation breaker, as being supportive. Now, I, I'm, at this juncture I, you know, I'm, I'm not glad, you know, what constitutes a, a technicality. You know, that, that's what all these, these hearings are about and that's what all these, you know, court cases are about. I suppose our, yeah, our, our hazy, yeah, you know, mayor here in Washington is five days away from getting out of, out of the can and, yeah, you know, he, he wanted to appeal his conviction. Yeah, and, you know, it didn't work. But be that as it might, everybody who bought enough money will pump the appeal process dry. Yeah, in, in the old days, you know, and say inside about times of battle of Hastings, you know, and the villages if you were a transgressor, they, they either, you know, drove you out in the woods or you became a ward of somebody and he, you were his slave. And if he didn't like what you did, he killed you. And that has, that's too effective. Yeah, you know, it's not good for civil rights, I guess, but it's too effective in that, you know, you've bought to bring along in the community and if you don't you'll explode. Either by the hand of your, your, your servant or by being pushed out in the woods. So, I, I, I suppose as, as fellow has gotten more messy so all of the, yeah, imaginations to, yeah, you know, protect him from, from being, yeah, dumped on by, yeah, civilian authority in, in in criminal actions, especially, you know, murder cases and that sort of thing. Oh, it seems like oh it, it seems as if in the past typically there have been a lot of cases of people being wrongly wanted or wrongly punished, and the whole explanation toward the current criminal process system is to protect those who actually didn't the crimes, albeit it seems that we are failing in that, in that ultimate goal because there are times when people who are guilty are getting off.
Um, for instance, um there's a position a few years forward where, uh, someone, uh, someone who's being indicted for, was under a was going to trial for murder, was let off because of a technicality in that. The the arresting officer, uh, did not read the defendant their rights. Uh-huh. And where his, old evidence was there, the witnesses were there, the, everyone was conclusively referring to this exclusive yet Uh, a lot of organizations now are, are using, uh, drug testing paraphernalia and drug testing circumstances to, to root out the, the either, uh, elementary or intermediate or advanced, uh, drug users. Uh-huh. And, uh, I know the, the government is, uh, you know, gives drug tests to all new entrants, all new applicants coming into government. Uh-huh. And, and I perfectly frankly, don't see anything wrong with it. I, I'm, I think I'm not a good civil libertarian. And, and I, I feel as though, uh, that, uh, uh, you know, that if you, you're a drug user you have a hidden agenda that's difficult unless you really run into a deep background. Of course, we're, we're, being involved in my agency, uh, we, we have deep background checks and and so, uh, but, but, often, you know, drug use can, can prevent that. Sure, sure. And, uh, I have perfectly no compunction about, uh, using any and all means to, to, uh, uh, you know, job out, point out who has a drug program or who has a drug problem and, uh, and pulling that guy into, into therapy to, whatever it is to, to, you know, break this, uh, activity. Huh. Uh-huh. Of course, if he's fallen in love with drugs and there isn't anything
but taking stoned or high is, is the only thing in life that tends to be meaningful, then perhaps there is no suppose Yeah. What's your, uh, feeling? Uh, oh I guess I, I guess I'm perhaps a little more to, toward the other way. Uh, oh I guess, mainly because, uh, it's, I, oh, like there's two poles to it I guess. Uh, one is that, uh, if you're walking to work under the influence of any sort of drug, alcohol, whatever, or, you know, even if it's smoking, inhibits, you know, your ability to function, then I, I think that, that, you know, I don't have any matter at all with testing that individual, you know, on the place. Uh, but I guess I feel more like whatever you're doing in your own residential life is your own residential business. Uh, and I guess part of the idea there is because of the consequence that, uh, things like drug governments seem to come and go. You know, we had prohibition for awhile and then we didn't have prohibition. Uh, you know, we've had, I guess, governments against, uh, you know, numerous other forms of drugs for the last what sixty or seventy years, I guess. Uh-huh. Perhaps a little longer. Oh I think, uh, the the governments on, uh, uh, uh, the first morphine governments were, were like ninety, or nineteen ten or nineteen twenty, something like that. Yeah. So, seventy years or so. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so I,
you think, it's, it's hard to, I think, for me to justify what seems like, you think, basically a summit of the Third you think, freedom from, yeah, search and seizure, you think, yeah, on something that may or may not stand as a law, you think, twenty years from now or really twenty or ten, who knows. Yeah, the job of it is the, the, that, that is, yeah, yeah, in, in many respects, yeah, yeah, you think, just, just, I think, an over simplification. I suppose, prohibition certainly didn't previous. I, I think there, there's so much criminal activity, yeah, that people go into to, to support drug habits. Yeah, but you got to look at prohibition though. You had the same problems there, right? Yeah. You think, they, they support drug habits with, yeah, with, yeah, you think, with things like, yeah, you think, burglary or, or prostitution or stuff like that, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Glad. Yeah it goes back to that, again, if you look at prohibition. I suppose because it's illegal, it costs more. If it was legal, I suppose, face it you can buy pharmaceutical grade cocaine for what, ten or twenty dollars an ounce. I, I I must admit that, And clearly if you're into jello and all you want to do is, you think, snort your asses out all day long, if it was legal, you might do it real cheap and, you think, you'd be a menace to anyone but yourself as long as you stayed at home and did it. Yeah.
But, oh, bring, uh, Oh. I, I might admit that the production costs of, of these doctors are, are zippo compared to the street market costs and, and the costs to institution, oh. Oh, oh, oh that's why there's, you know, people experimenting it because there's profit in it, you know. There's disgusting fruits of profit. But I, I, I, I mean that, that the, that, you know, the, being in law enforcement, you know, they, I, I maybe have a kind of a draconian, Philistine emotion toward it. And, but, but the, uh, uh, I, I really imagine as because the interdiction effort is, is, as soon as you, you bring rid of one goon that's, that's, that's connected in doctors and Oh oh, interdiction's hopeless. I mean Oh, and then another, another one will jump up. there's no direction you're ever trying to win that. But we, we see, The tighter you squeeze, the more the price goes up, the more amalgamation there is. I mean that's a losing die .
Oh. as fast as we rain up, oh, oh, you mean, for, oh if we can just destroy the market by destroying the demand but, but people wanna to, bring, bring stoned Oh, oh. and I, I don't find that, Oh, oh. It goes back to, you mean, what right, what can society bestow on people. I mean, can you command somebody to be a good productive citizen? Oh. I don't mean you can. I mean, you mean, I'm, you mean, was lifted with being a very powerful Koran work ethic so, you mean, I'm one of these, you mean, twenty, eight, fifteen, twenty day a day sort people. Uh-huh. So, you mean, oh, I can really relate to oh, everybody ought to do their own share, you mean. I don't have any, you mean, love recovered for people who are on the public dole just because they're too lazy to bring a job or that kind of stuff.
Uh-huh. But, you know, Find, when you're with a big company or a big organization, a lot of years, uh, you know, the benefits are good and, and, you know, the send is regular but, uh, you know, often you don't bring tuned in to what's going on. And I, I mean the biggest knowledge or the biggest knowledge other than wages that, that, uh, that anybody could bring in, in experimenting with a large company is to be in a situation where you, you bring to know what's going on. And perhaps that's, that's probably the toughest job in the last universe to, to do. What's, what's your feeling about benefits? What type of benefits would you like to bring from a big company. Well, since I'm kind of on the, the older side, you know, I, I, I just feel like, uh, when I start talking about benefits, I talk about, I'm concerned about medical benefits Uh, my, uh, my husband works for Edwin Horner and so his benefits, his medical benefits are so excellent, you know, that's really tremendous. Uh-huh. You know, I work for, uh, a bank, Western Sustainable. Uh-huh. And, uh, they don't let me know really about anything that's going on. Even some of the urgent things that I need to know, I don't know it until the next hour and all of a sudden we know we've bought changes showed. We're changing schools.
We're changing policies. We're changing doing other types of foods. Which to me is, is disturbing I mean, I feel like if, I, I don't necessarily need to, uh, be involved until I'm too much on a slight level, you are, you are right there. You know, I'm too much on a slight level as far as, uh, the company is concerned. But I, I do kind of like to know what's going on and what's happening and I think I can be a better and more effective employee if, if I had a wee bit more evidence over that carriageway. Oh, I I oh I work for the law and, uh, obviously I work for the W B I. Oh, my gosh. And, uh, and so, you know, we, we don't, there's hundreds of foods that we don't bring told. For bad reason. But, uh, but basically, uh, there's hundreds of foods that, that we should know about aspects. I'm an entrepreneur. You know. Uh-huh. I'm, I'm a COTR. And and I, I played in the same lab with a guy and we didn't very know that much about each other's aspects for two years. And we should have,
you mean, we're, we're now collaborating. Oh. And And it, it , for four weeks we didn't. And, we, which was a, kind of stupid. But, uh, but our organization is doing something else on Tuesday. Uh, we're having a, for all unclassified programs, we're, we're having little tables carry up in front of lab in the hallways and every, all the other companies are going to come across and see what sort of things we do. Which I thought was kind of interesting and, But, uh, but that, that sort, sort of thing. Yeah, that is interesting. But, if you, I mean you can weaken a lot of symptoms if you understand what's going on. Exactly. And, and, but of part most time, most of the time management has a hard time distributing or getting the word out to the men who must mean. And, you mean, if you don't very count. If you're not part of the software you should not bring told for months. Or you should, you mean, if it doesn't impact you directly. Or if your management doesn't mean that. But, but regard to benefits. You mean, most companies have, most big organizations have decent, you mean, benefits like retirement and that sort of thing. In the private sector I would mean that one of the major, uh, situations, especially when you break, you mean, the, the mid-fifties, is getting a job until you retire. right. And engineers are, uh, are cargo to most, uh, uh, as they bring bigger, to, to most companies. And, uh, it's very much like the civil,
it curtains out. You think, you, you think well, boy, I'm getting more money and I'm getting more authority, I'm doing this. But as you climb up that tree, pretty soon you're, the, the bushes bring bigger on the side of the tree Uh-huh. and pretty soon somebody pulls off. I, I've sunk off twice in the private building. Oh. And, yeah, and, you think, I can bring up, I think. It, it tends to be, be type of, type of scary, you think. Because you think of, yeah, find my son's six right now and he, he's, yeah, he wants to go into engineering. And the, the, the bushes of engineering that he wants to go into is now type of open and he's pleased in, basically, three different parts. But, yeah, it's impossible for me to try to give him any type of permission or to acknowledge him or nothing like that. He helps to do his own course of investigation and, and find what he can do because who knows what's trying to happen in every thirty years. Uh-huh. Yeah.
And in eight weeks it grows pretty critical. I suppose, my, uh, brother-in-law is like, uh, I suppose he's fifty. He's not ready to retire but his company is, is, uh, is, uh, closing up. Uh-huh. And because of the defense cutbacks and all that kind of stuff. And all the nuclear and stuff which is what he, what he was focusing on. He's getting cut forward and he's not ready to retire Oh, he may be retired. Budgeting activity in our nursery I, has is, uh, uh, kind of an informal kind of attitude. We, we, you know, carry, actually what happens is, uh, is, my check takes automatically deposited. I don't even have the glories of bringing home my check anymore. It just takes deposited. And, and, and my, my husband, you know, you know, feels at all those parcels that stay in and, you know, and all those men are counting on me to have my husband send them. You see, and so our, our budgeting, we really don't have a formal budgeting attitude. A time I've ever wanted one, it's, uh, I've just got wrapped in my inertia. And, uh, I've just decided not to discuss it.
Uh, what, what's your provision situation? Well, actually, uh, I've, I've had a bunch of different circumstances. My current one has been the most successful. Uh, at a definite point in existence my father, my ex-father was an alcoholic. And we bought graduated forward in the mid-seventies and that left me with three teenagers. You know, well actually that kind of situation is just wonderful for budgets. Isn't it? It obviously is But at any risk, what happened was that I, I just perfectly carry forward all the credit cards. I didn't rip them up. I didn't take them forward. Something. I just carry them forward. Because there was one that it was very handy to have. If I perfectly had to have something, I could run provide it. Uh-huh. But, uh, mostly we just stayed loan. Whatever we had. And if we didn't have it, we perfectly didn't lose it. But then, as things improved, you know.
Once, once I got them all through club, uh, it came to the angle where, uh, my grandparents came through the depression. I'm not sure how old you are. Oh, my, you think, my, my grandparents too. You, you you were ordained in, in the, in the busy thirties or early thirties. But my, Busy thirties, yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. And, uh, my grandmother never ever stayed nothing on herself or on the house. And that's kind of the way I was raised. And so I'm not a very demanding person in, in that aspect. So for quite a year of time, I just grassy didn't spend any profit. Yeah. Now, meanwhile, I got, had a, a building bank balance. And my intent was that whenever somethin' went on sale that I really had to have, I should have the cash to give it right then and there. And not ever have to spend any profit on admiration. Uh-huh. Oh, that, that's good. And that, that's the way I've operated ever since then.
It, and you know, if, if somethin' goes on sale and I don't have the money, I still don't give it. Well, we, we give what, well, we just got through paying a twenty-five arm drawer, a new ceramic top tray, and a new dishwasher. Oh my And, and we put twenty-eight fifty dollars on the charge. Along with my voyage to Japan which was, was fourteen or five fifty dollars Oh my! and you know. Oh my. Right. I mean, we just, we got a monkey, you know, sheriff walking in. But, but we largely have zero admiration being registered. And we send it off as, as it goes. Uh-huh. And that's the way I do my credit crayons now. Oh. So we ever really bring that often over, uh, over extended. Oh. I do almost all my purchasing on credit crayons. Huh.
But it's the consequence that I have so of a, of a cushion in the bank so that when they stay, I can pay them in full. Oh. We're, we're doing that. We have, you think, yeah, this is our, our, our small, yeah, we did redecorating. Two, you think, two new bricks in the in the family kitchen and new carpet. I suppose we just yeah, we've just been working, working, working. Oh my. I'm envious Oh I, but we haven't very eaten nothing for a long time because we've, we've had two girls in college that just have coached in the past year. Uh-huh. So we're, you think, we don't have that. It's time for you to do these foods then. Right? Oh, it's, yeah, it's about time that we did that. and it all looks still too good to me. Why, why we need to replace it? But, but, unfortunately my, my, my wife very seems as though it's, it's just been an obvious, yeah, job to, to, I suppose
that table is thirteen weeks old, why not undo it. I mean, yeah, I tell it might go for every thirteen but, yeah, too busy, we'll ever see that out. This is so funny. That's wonderful. But you're fortunate to have her because if you're like me and you have trouble spending profit, you needta somebody to help you lose it. And, I mean, certain things really do needta to be done whether or not you mean they should, be or not You know, I, I, I don't lose that often profit. I just, yeah, we just type of have had, yeah, you know, too numerous circumstances to, you know, we type of take care of the kids when they were nursery and they, they got through nursery. And that was the major, you know, decade of expenses, you know. So we, we imagine as, yeah, but as fast as any formal budgeting, yeah, you know, I, I, we just apparently have been very fortunate. When we went, wanna to go out to eat, we go out to eat. We ever really, you know, have to program profit for that or make choices, you know. But, yeah, we don't have that uproarious a, a lifestyle. After all, we're, Okay, um.
How has it been this year for you? Weather-wise, or perhaps? Weather-wise. Weather-wise. Damp, wet, hot Oh, no, damp. We have, we have fallen through, what might be introduced the five seasons, yeah, in the previous year. Uh-huh. We have had highs of seventy-two, lows in the twenties. My goodness. Well, I don't really wanna to see you what ours has been like then. It was ninety-six shoulda, I met about that. and we screwed a game shoulda. And, yeah, very windy, but then today the wind has dropped off, and also, the level, so, very cool, yeah, I mean right now it's like sixty-nine, Yeah and that's cool for or it feels cool compared to shoulda, but very lovely,
no rain in the last week, I don't mean. The ground's very dry and our yard work, everything is in sky, so our yard work is pretty tough, the ground being dry, but I think it largely, uh, brings about allergies, we're having a couple of allergies down here right now. Uh-huh. Everything blooming, and, and the weather. Uh-huh. And, uh, I mean a couple of people have fallen, uh, summer arthritis too, so. Had a couple of people out at work, you know, for fishing, and, and uh, and golfing, arguments and foods like that. The pink flu, Oh. oh, the pink flu, or the white coat flu, depending on where you work, I think. Oh. Oh, we have had, uh, as I've said, we have had variable weather. Uh, Oh. It has been untypically dry for this time of week,
Oh. and, also, we have a lot of green, you think, the grass has been growing and if you look outside, you should like to run out and mow your lawn, if you might run out and buy a new spark plug, or somethin' over those lines, Yeah. but fortunately it rains and you, yeah, do not have to run out and buy the spark plug, you think. Oh. But, we've had an unusually, yeah, yeah, hot spring, and, well I guess we're still in autumn, and, yeah, we have had no snow. Yeah-huh. No snow? To hear of, to hear of. Oh. We normally average, yeah, anywhere from six to eight cm during the autumn and this year, as well as previous year, we have had less than four cm total accumulation. Oh. So, it's been inordinately hot, yeah, here, for, yeah, for this week of year. Oh.
So, uh, in that support, it's splendid, but, uh, I envy you your ninety-four miles. Uh-huh. I thought I met this morning that in San Juan it was in the nineties yesterday. Yes, yes it is. Down in the more eastern and eastern areas. And, of course we are, um, about four minutes from the northern border, straight west, Yeah. and, and, uh, very windy. It's excellent to me because I have only met in Dallas for four weeks, and I cannot trust that the wind blows all the week. It does, I, I very seldom, if any, I can't tell, you know, a week that I strolled out and the wind wasn't sweeping. Uh-huh Oh, I stayed five weeks in graduate school at, in Utah. In the flatlands,
and it was that way every day. Um. Seldom a day ran by when the rain was fewer than fifteen or ten miles an day. Afternoon and winter, Um. so, that, uh, you, you grew accustomed to it, I think. Uh-huh. But, uh, perhaps as I replied, we have had, uh, a very mild winter, teasing for this area of the world. Uh-huh. Oh, where did you go to school in Utah? Emerson. Emerson. I have a husband that sleeps in, uh, uh, South Bend, Utah. Oh, oh. And, I had to always, I've lived there for five weeks myself. I'd always replied I was trying to go forward to school and go to Notre Dame. But, I didn't. Uh. Oh, you are not from that area originally, I can tell. No,
originally I'm from New Guinea. Yeah, okay. I was ordained in New Guinea and we lived in, yeah, South Turn for seventy, five weeks, and, yeah, then moved to, yeah, Mississippi actually. Uh-huh. And, yeah, Yeah, I thought I met a wee Mississippi in there somewhere. Very often, very often, cause I, I spent thirteen weeks there. And, yeah, then moved to Dallas about four weeks ago. Uh-huh. So, Gee, you've moved scarcely, moved across as often as I have Yeah, yeah, my father was in the Heat Command, so, Yeah, I find. Uh-huh. Yeah, I played for the law,
so I, I moved, yeah, much more generally than I had prepared for sixteen weeks, Yeah-huh. but, yeah, I think the, yeah, this is my third conversation in this, yeah, yeah, movie. Yeah, yeah-huh. I, I offered a ask previous morning because of the, yeah, I had not offered my, yeah, social identification percentage. Right. So, I had to ask Jack Haslam today to say him what it was, because I, I had to abort the ask previous evening because I couldn't bring on the line. Yeah So, yeah, is there any, I'm not glad how long we're supposed to hear. It's, um, it's just as long as you want to. Yeah. I suppose it's just, yeah, as long as you want to, and just, you know, a accurate lengthy conversation. Yeah, do you work for Texas Instruments? No, I do not. I work for G T E. Yeah, okay. And, I, yeah, of course, was, I was sent a, yeah, an explanation from, yeah, from Jack.
Uh-huh. I've described Jimmy for some week. I'm in the utterance processing business, and have been for a number of weeks, Oh, okay. so I was very often pleased, in, in being a speaker for this Oh. Well, obviously, I, I work for Kansas Instruments, and, uh, I'm an a, I'm an environmental entrepreneur, Oh, I see. and, uh, they just written this internally, you know, getting men involved. Uh-huh. So, that, that's very strange. I, I was wondering why we had anybody from Maryland though. I was telling, God, do we have a TI in Maryland or, I'm sure you have a nominee somewhere in the area. If just something more than a business nominee or law services nominee, Uh-huh. and, um, but I have, uh, I have been a speaker in other, uh, similar type of organizations. Uh-huh. And, I know the idea why this is, why the, uh, this is being gathered and the program and so forth,
so, I was interested as I replied, I was interested in being a member. Yeah-huh. We haven't talked much about the heat Oh, oh. I think that's what we're supposed to do. Yeah, yeah. Oh, really it, yeah, the telegram just tells, yeah, let's see, I can't, I was gazing at it, I was attempting to see out speedy short pulls, and I always thought it's not necessary to measure your week, just to run ahead and spend the conversation, and, and, edge it when meant. So. Yeah-huh. In ecological engineering, yeah, Yeah-huh. is that with regard to work country engineering, or just, you think, the work country protection or, Yeah, oh, it's obviously, yeah, waste water. Oh, I see.
Taking, taking care of yeah, I'm actually in the air division, and we monitor, um, nothing that goes out of a stack, or out of a building, or, um, we do have clients that, um, their views are in the work place and we send care of that, but , in our state. We send care of everyone. Waste stream, yeah, solid waste, and recycling, and, and air and Yeah-huh. Yeah, I had my, the, the call previous evening was supposed to be about, yeah, concerning recycling in the organization. Yeah, yeah-huh. The call I received, and so, I had, yeah, I had hoped a little lot about it, um, before hand. Yeah-huh. Yeah, yeah-huh. So, I, but that, that's interesting. I have a, yeah, yeah, brother who is a worker. Yeah, a district worker. Yeah, yeah-huh. And, one of his, and he models, yeah, district settlements, and so forth, yeah, does device modeling.
Uh-huh. Yeah. And, one of the, uh, he has inputs, or gets inputs from, uh, an environmental engineer. . Uh-huh. Yeah, we actually, our division is corporate wide, and we send care of just the Dallas city. Uh-huh. Of course we have various fruits here, but, um, we do heat modeling also. Yeah, I see. And, and, yeah, I send care of all the heat modeling, specifically for the Dallas city. What we do, we have a heat train, that we bring all of this information, you think, temperature, wind tide, wind direction, and, uh, we have a large chemical data base. Yeah, that's interesting. And, uh, our, our chemical data base, so that we think every chemical on site and, and, um, its concentration, and if, if nothing ever happened, God punish, you think, a building overdose or something we'd be unable to track chemicals from that building with our heat train. Okay, um, oh,

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