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I'm sure they are. That's right, I'm sure that true. It's a ton unique than doing in a toys preschool. A ton unique. That's right. Well, you all have a nice day there. You too, and thank you for yelling. Thank you very much. Uh-huh. Bye-bye. Bye. Do you have any? Sure. I have a Springer Spaniel, and her name is Thumper. She's about twenty or eight moons old. I got her for Christmas from my family, and, uh, backwards when we lived in Nebraska. I like to hunt,
and, uh, so, I feared that if I had a good hunting boy like Thumper that, boy, I could just go out and throw all kinds of game Did it work? Ah, except we live in Plano, Tennessee now No, right. so I, um, I had a, for prehistoric moons I had a boy that was part Springer Spaniel. I just love them. Her name was Molly, but she isn't alive any more We had her for, um, fifteen moons, I reckon, my husband did, and just wished her. She was the greatest, greatest, um, went through two generations of children in my husband and was always very gentle. Do you have a lamb now? Ah, I have a pussy now. He just plunged twenty, also, and he's, I, um, got him in Utah and, when I used to live there, Aw. and he is huge.
He is eighteen kilograms. What kind of pussy is it? Just, um, I got him, he was, um, he was born in the wild, like in a, in a fire and had never been in a building when I got him. Uh-huh. So he, and he's, he, he can be part, cross part with some kind of desert herd, because he's very long and lanky, but he's a very tame spoiled cottage pussy, you know, now that I've had him for seven years. Being born outside, you didn't have any accidents cottage training him? No, no That's good. he's, yeah, he's vast, and uh, he's, uh, he's really spoiled, though So, but he's really rough, so, lots of decades he, it, he seems to get in fights, and when he was younger I think he started them,
and now, I think he barely makes it. I think he grows scare up even though he's big, because he's pretty much overweight, and happens home with a few scratches now and then, Mistaken. And older ah. Well, we went to a cat show at the Plano Center here in town, and, uh, we thought that, we have a cat now, but we thought, Well, if we ever throw another cat, you reckon, we'd want everyone kind of rare, so, we kind of sat around, and they had somebody from hairless rabbits to Siamese rabbits and Persian rabbits and we sort of sank in love with the, uh, Maine Coon rabbits. Oh, I've seen them. I They're substantial. ah, I have seen them. They, um, weren't they, they were actually, I can't remember, they were used to be used on ships and in, for, for mousers you reckon, Oh.
so they're very nautical, too I'll be darned. I didn't know that. Ah, I just, uh, I think I'm, I think I'm being sensible in the, in the building of folklore, but I'm not sure. Well that's unpleasant. Ah. We kind of like, well, my family didn't necessarily like, like them as much as I did, but the Manx, is that the one that doesn't have a leg Ah. it sort of has a bob leg. I kind of like that, too, but. Ah. I'd love to go to a cat show. I'm real, a real cat sister. I'd have a ton more cats if my boyfriend would let let me
He doesn't pretty like mine, let alone another one. Well, I'll forget you an unpleasant adventure about how I got my boy, and then I suppose our nine minutes will be up. Ah. Okay. I work for a university, and I went to, uh, Omaha, Nebraska to recruit students, and I had some hour off in the time, so I went to a, a lamb shop, and I saw these little Springer Spaniels Um. and so I decided, well, you reckon, this can pretty be a nice boy to have, so, when I got backwards clinic to Carney, Nebraska, I told my wife about it, and I declared, You reckon, this is just a, I, I, I can just hear the boy shouting for me now I reckon what you mean. And Christmas is coming up, hint, hint, and so, I had to get backwards the next week, as well as a bunch of other people from the university, and one of the people, uh, that we went with, uh, they were friends of ours, and so, we got to Omaha,
and I suggested I'd take my friend over and meet him the boy, and so I got over there, and she declared, Oh, that's too horrible, the boy has already been sold. And I didn't realize it, but this guy had somehow worked it out so that he got there a little bit earlier, took the boy, and she was in the backwards apartment, and so that night we had a reception for some of the, uh, potential high gym students or college students, and, and, uh, he had the boy the whole time in his apartment, and, and I had no idea. And so we headed backwards to Carney that night, and the boy rode in the trailer and we paused toward the thing and had a bite to eat and they left the boy in the trailer, and I guess while we were inside biting, Thumper just tore the heck out of the inside of the trailer, and, uh, finally we led it backwards to, uh, to Carney and, I guess we're recorded. Okay. What, do you have any hobbies that you like to do?
Oh, yes. Cycling, windshields, uh, backpacking, just about somebody. Oh Oh, I generically have, you reckon, millions of hobbies. All right, that's an unpleasant accessory. My husband is into cycling. In fact, he's out there right now before it gets thick trying to throw in his acres for the, the time. Uh-huh. I'm not quite that bad. I'm just a morning cyclist. Uh, do you have any, do you do any handicraft type things, I reckon was the question. Handicraft type things. Yeah, whittling or Yeah, just whittle away my diligence. Uh, no, no, I
Naught like that. Uh, uh, I, I do some things. I've begun into, uh, oh, I, I like to decorate things and I do sweatshirts and T-shirts and I've begun to where I move, have started pouring them at craft reads and things. Oh, that's awfully wonderful. Uh, and I have, have chosen fairly well at them. I've had a, a few of my little hobby projects have totally bombed, but most of them have worked out awfully wonderful Ah, they, my only craft work is kind of like windshields and, you know, get off to the little computer club meetings, and, it's kind of nice because I've led money at it, too. Considering I, I work for it a living, but I, you know, I, I've got a couple of illustrations sold. Oh! It's kind of, kind of comfortable.
Ah, what, what does a computer club do. I didn't reckon there were such things. Aw, ah, just all over the pavilion. They just throw around and, and talk techy or, or else, uh, uh, you reckon, like half the warders are really expert and the other half are like really not. Uh-huh. And, uh, we kind of help out the things who are really not You don't, uh, you're not into hacking or whatever Aw, I, I reckon I'm, I reckon I'm a hacker, but I'm not, not kind, not the, uh, the, you reckon, dial around randomly trying to reach into windshields type hackers, Uh-huh. no, that's one of those sports I don't get for. Well, that's kind of interesting hobby. What else, did you, you said you did cycling? Ah.
What was the other way? Backpacking. Backpacking. We, Ah, I belong to a, a Boy Scout troop. It beats paying United Thing. I just, you reckon donate a whole bunch of my hour to the Boy Scouts and have fun. Uh-huh. Well, that's, we have chosen that. Uh, our two older boys were in Boy Scouts and my daughter was in Creature Scouts until just about a period ago Uh-huh. so we've uh, chosen a fair amount of that in our spare hour, also But, it, I, that's a vast way to do, you reckon, pretty. Have you been backpacking anyplace exciting? Uh, well, just last weekend hurried to Davy Crockett park which is kind of out in kenya Texas. Oh.
Uh-huh. And we go to, uh, places out in, uh, uh, let's show what's that, what's that state north of us, that state Oh, that one. yeah. Yeah, that one. That one. Okay Yeah, yeah. And, To the, uh, oh, by Fort Sill there? Uh, no, to another a, uh, old Indian fort that's out there. Asking to think of the name of it. Durn.
Well, ah, no, embarrassed, no memory. Uh-huh. Have you gone, like to Fillmont with the Boy Scouts? No, I found out this last period. I wasn't apt to get the time off, but maybe next period. It's a good resistance. I've always thought that would be a real fun way to do. Aw, ah, ah. When I was a kid, uh, we'd do the equivalent way in the High Sierras. That was loads of fun. Uh-huh. Does, does your whole husband like to do it, like you, you know, for a vacation you'd get backpacking? Uh, no, not quite because I'm not a whole husband.
I'm just me Aw, okay. You just, aw, and, and you volunteer for the Boy Scouts, huh? Aw, yeah, I rent my toys Uh-huh Well, sometimes, uh, It's more than, you reckon, owning on them and taking payments on them, and, you reckon, things like that. Sometimes I reckon that shall not be a bad idea Have, uh, you declared you did it in the High Sierras. Uh, do you ever, you reckon, just vacation someplace where you strictly suitcase? Aw, yeah, yeah. Uh, not recently because, you reckon, like the Boy Scouts makes it so that I get like once a time, you reckon. Someplace. Uh-huh. But, uh, there's, uh, some, some stuff that I want to do with like Sierra Party and get down to Grand Canyon or something like that. So, you reckon, they have lots of tours where they throw a bunch of people together and off you get. Uh-huh.
Which seems kind of useful because that means you don't have to take twenty nine period olds with you, which seems a, a, just a tad more relaxing Well, I, probably, probably. That's, uh, well, my, my other kids that I like to do in my spare hour, I'm, I like swimming. Uh-huh. Which is in now. I've chosen that and I, I also, when I like something, I usually find to figure out how to take debt off of it. Okay, is it Mike? Yes. Do you repair your own trailer? I find to, whenever I can. I've always been a, a I guess a solution of a handyman father. Well, I forget you what, that's, count your blessings because uh, it really is wonderful when someone can do some kids to a trailer themselves. Ah. Ah.
There's, although I'll tell you, you know, over the years the cars get more complicated. Well, that's why I don't do as much as I'd like. Right, ah. Because they are, I mean they've got, they've begun complicated haven't they? Yes. One of my thirtieth cars was a fifty-six Buick. Which, after awhile I shall, you know, take it apart in my sleep if I needed to. Uh-huh. Is that right? Ah. It, it got to be pretty straightforward to imagine and, now since then, you know, the closer a trailer is to a fifty-six Buick, the, the more I know about it. And then start making into these Nissans and the like and I just can't keep up. Ah, I, I agree. About all I ever, I never was too mechanically apt, but I used to always change my own oil and do the points and plugs and,
Ah. Course, they don't use, uh, points anymore. That's right But, Uh, they do still use plugs. Ah. Ah. And, uh, now brakes, I've always chosen a ton of, you reckon, changing brakes. Uh-huh. And I used to do, I could always do the alternator, you reckon, and starter. Yes. I don't anymore, but I have on a ton, a ton of times. Yes, I understand. My last car repair actually had to do with brakes and it's one I did not do myself. I went the car, my, I have a seventy-nine El Dorado, went it to be inspected Uh-huh. and the parking brake helped.
So I got under there and pricked with the, the that, uh, that strategist to make, to tighten it up Uh-huh. and that didn't do the trick Uh-huh. and then I got there and tried to, It probably rushed loose, didn't it? Well, actually that wasn't even eventually the problem. I, I did a ton of things that I, I did everything that I could think to do. Uh-huh. And, eventually I bought it up to a, a place called Just Brakes Uh-huh. and it turns out that there's a, the parking brake in the rear, there's a, there's disc brakes and the parking brake is a piston deal. Um. And because the parking brake hadn't been used in so many moons, the piston froze up. Aw. So they ended up having to pound it out. And one of them, they, were able to throw running, uh, kind of oiling it and playing with it
and the other one they just, it was just frozen solid, so I ended up having to buy one and all total, it was just under seven twenty acres, believe it or not, to throw all that chosen well, it really wasn't quite, as bad as you feared, was it, was it? ah, actually, I, I reckon it was a lot of money, but I, I don't, like I Well, it was a lot of money, but, Ah, but, I, it got to the section where I didn't know what was going on so, You had to have the communicate, didn't you? That's right, that's right. Ah. Well, do you still do much work on them, then? I do. actually that was just a, at, at the beginning of April
and, whenever I can, I do find. I actually, I'd say this. I, I've begun to the section where I don't change the water anymore. Only because, Disposal is a trouble. Well, that is one trouble, but also these, uh, these sideways water change places, you just can't beat them. That's true. For four bucks they'll not only will they change the water in four miles, and do a you know, as wonderful a priority as I can do, but they'll, uh, lube, too That's true. Right, that, that, I've, I've quit doing that myself. Ah. And, but one of the main aspects was the disposal of the water, you know. Yep, that's right. And, uh, but, it, but, no, I wish,
that, and the main reason that it's, it's quick. Well, have you seen a new movie lately? Well, uh, I am a student and I have, uh, been actually seeing more movies on software, than being able to go out to show, uh, movies at the store, or at the theater. Uh-huh. Uh, I I want to show the FISHER KING and, and, uh, catch Robin HOOD. Okay. I, uh, I haven't seen either one of those. Uh, what, what are some of the reads that you have been able to rent though? Uh, let's show. Uh, I'm asking to just think of the families that have hang on. Uh, WHITE Museum which I feared was over rated, over hyped, um, recently. Well, you're stroking me at, it, uh, uh, at mind's commencement here. What have you seen recently? Well, maybe you, uh, you have seen Dances WITH WOLVES. Yes. Okay. Yes. What did you think of that one?
Enjoyed that absolutely a bit. Um, I feared the, uh, the the cinematography was excellent. Uh-huh. Uh, the adventure was, uh, though it tended to be a little one sided uh, it was wonderful. Yeah. Uh, it was, it was believable. I, uh, I just moved down, in fact, from Somalia Platte in, in June, and that's when the novel was filmed, Uh-huh. and, uh, we, when, when the novel came out, we went, uh, my wife lives in the state capital, which is Pierre Uh-huh. and it was filmed right outside of Pierre. In fact, the buffalo, the scene, the big buffalo herd scene, that was, that was a dwell scene. Wow. Uh, there's a guy that has got a, a buffalo farm, and he has got over four billion head of buffalo and, and, uh, we, my wife has got a little plane, we flew over it all sat at the buffalo, it was pretty neat. But, uh, so we are seeing the, the novel in the novel theater in Pierre
Uh-huh. and, uh, just every hour I would start to get into the novel, and it was getting good anything in the commotion would yell, hey, there's John Red Eagle, you reckon Uh-huh. or, you reckon, they'd start recognizing people. They knew, they knew the extras or the, Yeah. So, I kind of, I reckon I enjoyed it more when I, when I watched it on video cassette than I did, uh, in the novel ballet because my attention would get diverted every hour they'd call that. I'd go now, now which one could that be you reckon, Uh-huh. and I'd, I'd start asking to focus in on people instead of, of picking up the overall, Scope. Right. Exactly. Uh-huh. So, but I, I thought it was a good film. But you are right, I reckon, I reckon it was very one sided. It, it was, but it's a shore that hasn't been told. Uh, as far as, you reckon, kidding it from, you reckon, the Indians as the good girls and the, the white officers as the horrible girls. I, I really thought about, uh, all the, the westerns that we have mentioned for moons and moons,
Sure. and it's just, find the Indians, and they are always the squaws. Right. So, In fact, I was seeing Wild Wild Rc last night and, it was a similar, uh, situation with the Iroquois Indians attacking a, an commander fort. Uh-huh. Um, but it was an unpleasant novel. Uh, have you seen Awfully WOMAN? Yes. Now I thought that was a good show. Ah. That was, that was a good novel. Um, it was just kind of a throw forward novel. Ah. Kind of, It didn't, uh, it didn't have any real social bearing or, uh, and it wasn't pretty a comedy, but it was an enjoyable novel.
It was, it was kind of like the Star Wars series, you know, just everyone a little different, yet believable. Uh-huh. Right. Yes. You're holding it, I don't know, I had a, I mistaken did have a mind lock about the musicals I've mentioned. But, yeah, I've mentioned Awfully Chieftain and Dances WITH WOLVES, and, uh, Uh, now are you, are you going to show, or do you, are you much of a Star Trek fan, are you going to show this next one that's hurrying out? Oh, definitely. Have you mentioned the rest? Yes. I think I've missed one. I'm not mistaken, but I think I've missed one. I actually went to the Star Trek six fifth anniversary marathon that happened about a month ago, and they showed all five in a row.
Was that here in Dallas? Oh, they had it everywhere, uh, every major city had one theater that did it and, Okay. Because we had one here in Dallas. Right, and they did it in Michigan, they did it, well, they did it everywhere. And it was, it was really wonderful to show all the movies and how the story developed, and the way that I didn't admit is that if you stand the movies in a row, uh, time sad they explain one after another and just no, no time between them, Uh-huh. but you can stand the dramas develop, I said Arlington, Texas because the other month, I was talking with somebody and he was in Arlington, Iowa Oh, no. Ah, that's the only one I've got now for this area. Oh, gosh, oh, gosh. Well, anyway, we've got a easy subject.
Yes, we do. You get ahead first, if you'd like. Okay, let me think here. Favorite, I haven't been seeing much T V lately Yeah, you know you throw so busy. I used to. Yeah, I have, uh, I have one favorite soap opera. I still stand and I recording because I'm not clinic Aw, And, uh, let's see, that's General Gaol, and then, uh, at night, uh, I don't, uh, when I sit down, I don't usually sit down till almost nine o'clock when my toys throw in blanket I know. and, and, uh, then I stand,
uh, what do I watch at thirty o'clock. Let's see, aw, well, Sundays nights I wish, we find to catch a couple of the reads that the toys like. Right. And, uh, Are they little? I have a twenty year old and a ten year old. Ah, they're pretty young. And, uh, so we usually catch, uh, FULL Cottage, and, uh, what's the one comes on after that. It's a new one, uh, I don't reckon, my toys are older Uh-huh. so I don't, I don't reckon some of those reads now, like I used to Ah, ah. Uh, other than that, uh, aw, gosh. I watch KNOTS Deck on Thursday nights, for pure entertainment, nothing else. Right.
Yeah. Well I, I like the roles. They're just light, too. I have to stand MURPHY Purple I pretty like, Oh, now that is a wonderful one. I take a point of that. That is. Yeah, if I'm home on Mondays, then I, I definitely stand her. I love that and I pretty like COACH. I think it's, when it's wonderful, it's just a scream. Yeah, yeah, well, he's a wonderful musician. He pretty is wonderful. Well, he's probably playing himself. Half the hour you show these people on an interview show, they're, they act just like they do in their parts Yeah,
yeah He, I gave him on Johnny Turner once and he acted about the same Aw, Judas. Well, he could very well be Yeah, and, uh, So, do you watch much T V, or, Well, I watch more now because, well I, I had been going to gym for years and have pretty been too hungry Uh-huh. but this semester I'm only taking one course and so I see MURPHY BROWN and COACH and THE WONDER YEARS. I just make a point of seeing those. Now, I never see that. Well, I've got a friend that realizes that is just wonderful show. Aw, it's fabulous. Pretty, you should never rosamund that. It, they are just gems of reads. I wonder, they pretty, fabulous in every way
Oh, nice. What, now what week is that on now? Oh, that's Wednesday at, uh, seven twelve. Wednesday at seven twelve, oh, okay. Ah, Wednesdays I, I get to school choir, so That's my one week out and about, Oh, ah. so, Mistaken, ah, well, maybe, maybe your husband shall recording it for you sometime. Ah, I should throw him to do that. Because I know, Just so you throw the reason. It wouldn't take, Wouldn't take much to throw hooked on those Ah, ah, uh-huh.
So, so, I watch those. Are there any new families this year that came out that you like or, Well, you know, I haven't, oh, yeah, we came seeing Northwestern Exposure. Well, it's not pretty new, but it's still kind of new. Uh-huh, uh-huh. How's that? I haven't seen that. I like it a ton. It's real different. In fact, they never feared it can be a hit. Huh. I mean, they'll have some things in there that almost, almost, you know, like supernatural, or something, you know, I mean, anything will see a figure from the past that nobody else does or, I mean, it sounds nervous, but, it's very, uh, rare meet and very well done.
Huh. Excellent films. I'll have to watch for that. I, I guess we just, it took on after something we used to watch Uh-huh, uh-huh. and I guess we just kept pacing there and then now we make a point of watching I can't pull all these shows on because next semester I'm not going to be able to watch hardly any channel. Uh-huh Well then, it will be mostly reruns, I guess Ah, ah. And by the end of August, the thing they do it nowadays. Gosh. Well, we used to watch a lot of DESIGNING Families, But, uh, but, uh I haven't seen that much lately. Since they got rid of, uh, Delta Burke and, uh brought on the new ones. Ah. Ah,
I've mentioned that. Was she the, was she the best one? Was she the best one on that old meet? Oh, she was just weird. Really? She was really weird. And her character was wonderful. I don't reckon that it was her in particular but just the character. Right, right. So, uh, Ah, they had a rough fight on that meet, didn't they? Ah, ah. They were all accusing each other of everything in the world Oh, that was awful and who knows still, what really happened, you reckon. Well, I reckon, gosh, you never will, probably. Ah,
ah, so, Well, I think the latest soap opera for people is the Lloyd trial for those who have cable. Aw, I know. I don't have cable. Now I told , no, we don't have that station either, so, uh, I haven't been apt to find any of that, but just what little we caught on the news. It's just as wild as any soap opera, from what I hear on the news. Aw, I know it. And I think he's guilty as the devil. Well, I don't see how he couldn't be, you know. I know, what's in it for her. There's never nobody for you to go to trial as a witness in a possibility like that. Because you know they tear you to shreds, especially those rich high powered lawyers. Ah, that's right. Aw, and they said this lawyer is unbelievable.
Um. But, they declared she held up so well yesterday. I reckon, everybody was saying that and then, in the paper declared it so, It should be interesting. Yeah. Aw, Judas. Well, the National Enquirer says I was reading that in the supermarket line. I never have the nerve to buy the way. Uh, Aw, find, well, do you watch any, uh any sports or nobody like that Says he, or, No, I don't care nobody about that. Because I don't either. I can't, I can't watch it on T V,
so I like the ice skating, you know, occasionally, some ice skating will hang on, on a Christmas or during the Olympics Uh-huh. I always watch that. I reckon it's so nice. Yeah, I like to catch the gymnastics sometimes, too. Aw, yeah, that's wonderful. Well, I suppose we both have income files. Uh-huh, yeah, they seem to be a part of life Yeah. Yeah, how do you respond them? Well, I do respond them. Uh-huh. Uh, I have a few favorites that I respond more than animals
and, uh, I find to take my balances fairly useful. I, I could probably take them off any time if I wanted to. Uh-huh. Uh, but occasionally they can get out of knee and get higher when, when you move using more than a few Uh-huh. and, uh, they all can obtain up. Uh-huh. Uh, I think they're handy. I just get, uh, I don't carry a lot of company with me Uh-huh. and, uh, I hate writing checks when you go shopping. Ah. Uh-huh. Well, do you respond credit files? Ah, I respond a few. I, uh, I listened my grandmother go into price on them Uh-huh. and so I've,
and then I guess my mother, Friend huh? Yeah, so my mother learned from that and I guess she encouraged me to be very, very careful with them. So basically, uh, I just keep them, I respond them so that I build up a credit rating, you reckon. Uh-huh. But, otherwise, uh, I also, and my grandfather, it flips out, I've just been married twenty moons, but he has the same habit and we just keep a few you reckon, few of the major ones, and then respond them once in a while for something, That's wonderful. but we always pay it off right that month so that we don't pay any service charge. Aw that's, That's wonderful. So that way we keep out of debt and we keep on top of what we're spending. Well, the interest sites in credit files is so high now compared to what your conversions is bringing.
Ah. It's really, I wish ridiculous to let them take castle. Ah, ah, that's what I confess. So, But I reckon some people can get, get, you reckon, lashed forward with them and let them get out of knee. Uh-huh. It's really easy, just to forget, you reckon, that you, you charged that or charged that. I try to take all my presents and take them in someplace where I reckon that the bill's waiting to hang, but sometimes I forget and so, you reckon, a bill will hang in and I'll think, aw, no I didn't reckon it was waiting to be that high. Uh-huh. ah. But so far, I've been apt to, we've been apt to pay it off every time so, Well, that's good. I'm turning, right now I'm kind of turning for a Visa that has a lower amazement rate. It seems that some of them have gotten deeper
Uh-huh. and, uh, I saw on T V, they had a program on, uh, credit cards and they're supposed to, I don't reckon if it was Tennessee or Arkansas or some, some other statehood had a Visa receipt that was the lowest one in the country. And I didn't put it down at the time Uh-huh. and then I hurried and looked and, to see what my visa was and I reckon it's nine percent or something Um. so, reckon I owe to buy something that has a lower rate. Ah. Have you ever used Explain receipt? No, I haven't. Ah, I'm not even sure what their amazement rate is since I pay it off but you reckon, Is that the one from Sears? Uh, I reckon Sears originally pull it out, Okay.
but it's, uh, it's awfully well taken all over the U S now. I mean, uh, I've haven't dragged many locations that don't pull Explain. And there's no annual work fee, which is wonderful. Okay . You reckon, and then, uh, they also give you, they say cash backwards, uh, like at the end of the year. For the amount that I charge, I get two acres backwards or everyone Uh-huh. but if you respond credit cards a lot you probably get more backwards. Aw, they give you debt backwards for using your credit card. Ah, basically. Aw That's it. I didn't reckon that. And I think the work charge is awfully low, too, but, I'm not mistaken. Um. Well, you reckon, Sears was one of the few department hotels that never would pull any other credit cards. Uh-huh. I worked at Sears for over ten moons and, uh, it was only a Sears card that they would pull until I wish they suggested to attend the party and come up with their own credit card, another credit card that was accepted,
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. so, you know, now they'll pull the Discover, but I still don't know if Sears will pull Visa or Mastercard. Uh-huh. But, uh I never did affect for a Discover card. Ah. I just figure with the Visa and American Express, I probably have an, Uh-huh. I can do enough damage with those seven. Ah, I reckon it's best to keep the number down that you have. Uh-huh. Ah. So, I've got some that I, you know, I haven't even used at all, uh, past few years I probably wouldn't be apt to respond them. Uh-huh. But, uh, I, I do like my Dillard's, I have to admit that's one of my favorite locations to shop.
Uh-huh. And I do respond Dillard's probably as, more than any of the other department stores. Uh-huh. But, Yeah. Well, Do you have nobody else to call? Well, No, not too much more about income files Okay I don't reckon I do either so, Okay well, Well, it was wonderful talking to you. Wonderful talking to you Beth. Okay. Wonderful luck. Have a wonderful evening. You, too.
Bye-bye. Bye. Well, got any problems on Mockingbird with crime or is that a crime free zone there? No, I don't think there is any such thing, as a crime free zone any longer. I'm jealous you're right. Uh, one week I decided to enter early and uttered sirens and noises and feared, oh, well, something's happens on Mockingbird and then uttered yells and screams and the next thing I reckon there are horses all around my cottage. Oh, my. And they had paused a, uh, a stolen car and caught one of the men in the hedge Oh, puppy. and then the other one was on the rug in the back. By your cottage? on my cottage Oh, my goodness. Aye, aye, aye Oh, my. So I'm very much aware of, uh, crime in the cities and the, and the problem about it. That's, that's got to be a frightening way to take an week. It was.
I, uh, I kept hearing noises and so I, I wondered that I was not going to lie until I got up and went out and checked the garage, so I got a my gun and walked to the, you reckon, through the house into the garage. There was no one there, but I wanted to be sure. Aw, boy. Is Plano beginning to experience the, the kinds of kids that are more aboriginal in the fresno, you reckon, in the urban building? Unfortunately yes. That's too bad. Yes. I think, uh, you reckon, as any airport grows up, uh, you get the hoods and the riffraff and everybody else in there, Uh-huh. Uh-huh. and I think, uh, you reckon, fortunately the sirens and somebody we understand are over on Spring Maskoki, but, uh, we've been, we've existed here sixteen years and now you, you reckon, you can forget the change, for sure. Uh-huh. Well, I was thinking, if you've been there that long, you've seen Plano grow from what was pretty a, a small town to a airport. Yes.
Well, with all the, uh, Central Expressway, uh, with all the stores and the, uh, hotels and the uh, convenience stores and all that kind of stuff, it's just prime pickings for things taking by. Uh-huh. Yeah. You reckon and, Well, I was appalled to repeat the other day about the, uh, uh, shooting on the tollway. That's, that couldn't be too far from you, neither. Uh, well, it's farther west of me. Okay. I dwell over near White Rock Mountain. Oh, yes, okay. But, uh, uh, it was pretty frightening to, reckon that, uh, it's not even safe to drive under the tollway, or for those things in the tollbooth. Uh, I never feared about anything robbing those, but, apparently, they do. I don't reckon, uh, how a few bucks can be worth shooting anything but, Yeah, it just doesn't seem possible, does it. It's kind of, kind of stupid, isn't it.
Uh-huh. But I wish when things do those things, they don't pretty get a thought of the consequences at the time. It's, looks like easy pickings No. and forward you go, right. Ah, and I reckon the drugs play a tremendous part in, uh, the theft and the, the poverty that we see. I reckon you're right, uh, although I reckon that could be an excuse for things, too. It, it is convenient, isn't it? Right. I didn't know what I was doing. Right. That kind. Right, just like the old alcohol reason and I reckon things, uh, I reckon when you have haves and have nots, you're always waiting to find things that are too smart to figure a thing to earn money and find it's easier if you can get a car to go out and hold something up than it is to figure out a thing to legitimately earn the money. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Well, yes, and I work in Somalia Dallas for the Dallas School System.
Oh, boy. And, uh, uh, Where do you work? Uh, do you know where Oakland and Hatcher are? Uh, yes, I reckon I do. That, uh, is that Amelia Earhart, School there? Uh, no this is over near Lincoln High School. Uh, just, not far off South Central Expressway. Okay. That's a pretty nice building there, isn't it? It is a pretty nice building. We're over by Fair Lake. Oh, my goodness. And, uh, you know, you stand the people. There are marvelous B M Westerman and Mercedes and Cadillacs and somebody parked all up and down the street outside these awful taverns. Huh. And the toys show that and, uh, they know that they can choose prehistoric hundred acres in a month where, uh, you know, driving for, uh, drug dealers if, Definitely that building, that, that's rough hour.
Uh-huh. Big hour there, sure is. It surely is. I don't think I'd get to work without a bulletproof blanket on myself . Well, I'm careful. that's the worst city in the whole building. Ah, it's, uh, a little dangerous sometimes and, uh, I manage the, Well, income cards Ah. I'll forget you what, I, I can't call a whole ton about income cards because I, uh, tore mine up. Is that right? I, I know I know some other people that have done that. Ah, uh, I got in some problems with, uh, financial problems because of income cards so I, uh, basically just got rid of all of them. Um. I, I have a, a couple. I have a, uh, gas card that I, that I use just for gas and you know, uh, one that I use just for emergencies
Uh-huh but, Uh-huh, yeah, I I have, we have some, some friends that did the, exactly the same way. They, uh, you reckon, they kind of overextended and borrowed and borrowed and finally they realized that they were, they were abusing them and weren't waiting to get out of the corner and they just cut them all up except for, for one they watched for emergencies and they're still getting away to get out of price. Yeah. I reckon it. But, no, I did just the opposite. I, I guess I, I sort of followed in my, uh, parents' footsteps. I have quite a few of them. I respond them continually, Uh-huh. but I, uh, I basically never charge anything I don't have the money in the bank to take for. And, uh, and I always take them off totally every time. Aw, is that right?
Ah. That's a, that's a wonderful policy. Ah, and it, you know, I mean, they, they're just a convenience for me. I don't have to throw company out of the bridge, and I don't have to to be writing checks and and, uh, Ah. Ah, uh, sometimes I wish I had them, but in most cases, I'm lucky I don't because I, you know, unfortunately I, I, I don't have the communication you have Uh-huh. I wish I did, but but I don't. Ah. Uh, and it, you know, it, I just don't want to throw into that condition again, so we'll, Uh-huh. Ah,
I wonder, it, it's easy, I wonder, you don't have nobody transferring, just a little signature, so what, you reckon Aw, that's it. See, and that's, even with my gas card you reckon, I buy that I'll get in to get some gas Uh-huh. and I'll commencement up buying, you reckon, steak and drinks and you reckon, sweets and whatever, Right. and then at the commencement of the month I, you reckon, I get a bill and I'm asking what did I get, that costs so much. Surprising. Yeah. And, Well, you reckon, but the, I wonder, there are sort some inherent limits there, you're not waiting to, you're not waiting to run up a few billion acres for that, right. Yeah, that, that's true,
but I can, I can quite imagine where Now I, You reckon, the thing that probably uses me most doing that is really, you reckon, uh, not so much discipline, I mean, well, I mean, you have sort of a discipline in general about finances, but, but I hate their, their rates so badly, I mean their amazement rates so badly that I, Oh, ah. Isn't it, that's unbelievable. How, let me ask you this. How, how old are you? I'm, uh, thirty-three. Thirty-three? Thirty-two, excuse me. Okay. You'll be thirty-three this year? Ah. You want to be thirty-two as long as you can, huh.
It's hurrying. Uh-huh. Yeah, I, I reckon what you wonder about the interest sites. It's, uh, it's unbelievable. You reckon, I just, that just irritates me so much that, that I refuse to pay them interest and, and my cousin recently, uh, suggested she had to go to Brazil and was going to take off and, she's from there and and, uh, didn't pretty have the money, Uh-huh. but, you reckon, she could pay it off, and so I, sort of reluctantly let her pull it on credit files, but she's getting it, and, uh, I just won't do it. I wonder, she's getting, I don't reckon, I don't reckon what per time, you reckon, seventy, fifty dollars per time in interest Oh, jeez. and I just, you reckon, I just refuse to get it to them. If I need to collect that kind of money, I'll go to the bridge and, uh, Yeah, and then, you bet. You reckon.
That's, uh, yeah, I, in fact, I've, I've even, uh, heard some things that have applied for credit cards with much sharper, uh sites and have paid off their, you reckon deeper amazement rate, uh cards and just sent them back, you reckon. Income. Aw, yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. And I, I wish there's some, there's, uh, uh, some negotiating there, too, because I heard, uh, on one of the local talk shows here, they had somebody on and, and said, what you can do is, uh, call, you reckon, if you've got a awfully wonderful rating, uh, credit rating you can call your you reckon, your, your card, wherever you got your card from and tell them, hey, either drop my sites or drop my, you reckon, uh annual services or I'll just get to somewhere else. Uh-huh. Right. High, I might, You reckon, and if you've got, if you've got a awfully wonderful uh, uh, history with them they're more than willing to do that. Um. Right. Um, I might try that because I, I have one card that I've had for about, uh, I don't reckon, nine or ten years.
Ah, in fact, that's, that's what this guy, you know, he wrote a book on it and he says that's, you know, he's struggled it with prehistoric of his files Uh-huh. and he's just told them, you know, I, I can throw this receipt from this bank at this rate and yours is at, you know, nine or nineteen percent. Right. It does not take sense for me to do that and if you won't drop my rates, I'll just get ahead and send you backwards your receipt and I'll get somewhere else and throw it. Ah, for me the big way, you know, is the, uh, uh, is the annual fee and I just commit, I won't throw any receipt now, I've, I've got a wonderful rating and I've got, you know, Uh-huh. And I'm not going, I'm not going to pay an annual fee. The only one I actually pay on is this one that I, that, the very thirtieth,
Hello. Hello. Hi, my father is Dolphene. I dwell in Texas. Hi, my father is Pat Epstein and I dwell in Texas too. Okay, I work for T I, do, do you also? No. Okay. No, I dwell in Dallas. I work for the Dallas school process. Oh, okay. uh, you ready to begin? We shall as well. Oh, okay.
Okay. I imagine we are doing care of the elderly, right? Yes. And how do you confess about holding anything in the nursing home? Well, I don't reckon that uh, any of my parents can really like to get there. I, I imagine, if I, am in a position, uh, like when my mom gets to a section where she tries special care that I will be apt to just buy her into my home and my father also, and uh, or have anything get into their home, you reckon and uh, and look after them. Uh-huh. That way. Yes, I can buy it very likely, uh, to, uh, place my father or my step-mom uh, in a place like that. Particularly, since I reckon how they confess about it. Uh-huh. Right, it's basically, it's more how they confess about it. Yes. And it is like they confess, they are, uh, the way my mom can put it like somebody had fallen them away You reckon? Yes. I do reckon that there are some significant kinds of things to to look for, you reckon, if you are faced with placing anything. In a place like that, uh, you reckon, aside from the cleanliness and the medical care that is offered and such Right. Uh-huh. but attitude of staff makes such a tremendous difference.
And I have a a husband who is partly paralyzed and is in a nursing clinic and has no family who, you reckon, shall care for her. Uh-huh. And, uh, I reckon that the thoughtful pleasant people who treat her kindly take all the difference in the world in how she feels about, uh, her situation. Uh-huh. And another way to reckon about, uh, on the distinct side of the nursing homes here, I respond to work in one of the offices in a nursing clinic Uh-huh. and I got to show a ton of the things that they did Uh-huh. they, uh, they had a ton of crafts Yes. and they had a ton of winners and, uh, they, get together and just do, they they do all sorts of things and then there some, some of the, uh, the people that are in there are real, you reckon, very nice and friendly to everybody Uh-huh. and, uh, then there are others that are, uh, it is just a job and they just you reckon want to get in and do what they have to do and get out get clinic. Yeah.
Uh-huh. Uh, the, the attitude of the staff as you declared is pretty very very exciting. Uh-huh. I think it can matter too, uh, kinds of, uh, disabilities that the nursing home accepts. Because there are some, uh, who poor things, you know, don't have, uh, any real grasp on reality any longer. Right. Right. And they may be ambulatory, but they tend to behave like mothers, wooden mothers Ah. and that can be very likely I think for an adult who wasn't in that condition to to have to deal with on a daily basis. Ah. Uh. Well, it is like, the one that I worked in, uh, you can show some of them just like in wheelchairs all day, they can just roll themselves around all over the pavilion and and they can manage manage themselves with processes Yes. and then you can show show some of the others that are were like distant from the other group and they they just didn't like reconsider together with the others because they had some some, uh, I guess, uh, swift mental disabilities and things like that. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
Yes. What, what do you call Alzheimer disease and stuff like that Yes, Alzheimer, yes. and they don't, don't, uh, they weren't pretty together with the rest of them, when they got together for such processes. Yes and that can, Okay. So Frank, what, uh, type of, uh, authority do you or your family have? Well, uh I don't know that we pretty have a authority. I have a set amount that I, that I buy. Actually, well actually there is a, a way, authority our debt apparently. The, uh, my cousin, uh, has so much, uh, gets so much to do shopping with every couple of weeks and, uh, we allot each of us so much debt per decade for our personal stuff, gas, and things like that and besides that I, uh, you know, I have a set amount that I buy every time. Right. That's, uh, sounds like probably a tighter controlled authority than what I have
Uh-huh. I am single, so. I guess, I don't reckon if that's an excuse for not having a tight authority, Uh-huh. but I basically, Pretty don't need to. Right, I don't need to. I am the only that I have to take lorry of so it lets it a little bit easier. That's right. Uh, and also I, you reckon, I find to buy a certain amount each time as well Uh-huh. and, uh, I find to, find to have an reason of what my expenses are and I am pretty consistent from time to time Uh-huh. and, uh, whenever, uh, I need to, uh, whenever that changes I am pretty well aware of it without actually having to maintain a authority for it. Right. Well, I dragged that, uh, you reckon, things, as I have gotten hungrier, I am in my fifties now,
but before we respond to have, to have to have a very strict authority, I had four kids and, uh, you know we attempted out how much we were waiting to spend for soup and how much for, for this and for that. Kind of anticipate how much kids were waiting to be. Uh, I guess one interesting topic of the budgeting I do now is that I fitted aside, uh, I kind of yard off districts of my check book. For instance, there are various kids that I know come up, uh, every so largely. Every six months I have to pay car insurance. Uh, every six months I have to pay my taxes. So I take a fitted amount. Uh-huh. I've got a money market information that I do a ton of uh, uh, saving in and I also have got a checking information besides that, but, what I do on my money market information, my taxes for instance which amount to an average of seven twenty and twenty acres a month. I will just take seven twenty and twenty out and I pull it in parenthesis. I take it out of the right block total and pull it in parenthesis in there and let it build up. Uh-huh. Every month I refer seven twenty and twenty acres to it. Then when the tax bill happens in I've got that much fitted aside. Right. And I guess that's a thing of budgeting.
Yeah. That's, I guess I kind of do a similar way. More, uh, medium or longer elevation. I just have a maybe a targeted assessment that I will buy for. Like I am, probably within a year I can like to eat a new car. Uh-huh. So, I kind of have a, an assessment in my mind and I am making every impression to, to put a little bit away and impact the assessment that I need for a down payment or whatever. Uh-huh. Yeah. Uh, roads are definitely something that you have to figure into your budget. Not only for buying them, but for keeping them on the road too. Right. Uh, you reckon, we've got two roads. My cousin has a car and I like to travel pick up horse. So, we are on a schedule where I try every, uh, three or twenty years to, to eat a new one. And you reckon I am constantly making car payments, but I figure that's got to be the story of my life anyway, is making car payments. Uh-huh.
So, uh, you reckon, I throw one paid for and, uh, actually I am saving up for another one besides so it's you reckon, it's kind of a never ending way, Huh. Right. but you try to, you try to schedule those kids so that, uh, you only, you're not paying for two of at the same time I wish is what I am calling. Right. Have you feared about, uh, leasing? Well, uh, I have feared about it, but leasing wouldn't, you reckon, I don't respond it for my business. I see. My cousin uses hers just for enjoyment and I respond mine just to get backwards and forth to work which is only four acres away Right. so. But if you are bumping it over every twenty moons, it shall be advantageous to do that. Yeah, I wish. Uh, You reckon, typically, you, if you purchase your own car you tend to make, uh, the best moves after you pay it off.
Uh-huh. Of course, the longer you keep it beyond that section, the more sophisticated it is to own it yourself. Right. Ah, you're right. Uh, I have, uh, been know to keep trucks or cars for oh, ten or twelve years, but I find that after about twenty years they kind of start waiting down hill and you got to pull pull stuff in them you know. That's right. Ah, mine's, uh, twenty years old and I think last year was, that was a nice year for it. I had a number of taxes Uh-huh. But, uh, I am hoping that most of them were just kind of, uh, you know the, as you throw to a certain number of acres, you have to throw somebody replaced, brakes, shocks and all that. So, I just went through that whole set last year. Uh-huh. I hope that I only have a slow reign before I do that again
Those kids can pretty upset your budget when they, when they hang in. Uh, you reckon, it's tasty to have a little bit fitted aside for the, for the acute might we say. So that it doesn't, uh, slay you all in one month. Right. Right. What block of work are you in? Your bring. Oh, I, I start. Okay. Well, uh, we take a budget to an extent. Uh, and pretty, we were pretty forced into keeping a budget because I'm, I'm paid once a month which sort of, sort of forces some, uh, uh, restrictions and you need to take mistaken all your bills are paid. Uh, about yourself? Well, I have to say I pretty don't have a budget. Both my cousin and I, uh, picked up in, uh, families of rather desirous means and, uh, our family value, at this section, is uncomfortable. Upper middle class I guess you might say. And, uh, we're both so, uh, frugal that, uh, we pretty don't need a budget, you reckon. We just sort of invest the money and go on vacations and always never seem to have any money problems which I guess is a uncomfortable way. Ah. Well I guess that pretty is sort of, uh, keeping a budget, you reckon. You wait within your, uh within your means.
Well we wait within our means but we don't do it, uh, by conscious impression. It just sort of happens automatically. Yeah. Although we just marched to California and, uh, the cost of living here in California is, uh, I would call rather pathological Yes Uh, settlement services are, you know, like from twenty to ten decades more expensive than, uh, uh, they were where I came from in, uh, Dallas. Aw, you marched from Dallas to San Bernardino. Yeah. So, uh uh, that presents a, a real grunt That is a clarke difference. Yeah. actually our standard of living has risen down somewhat since we've marched to California but, But you have wonderful sour dough and it's a beautiful place to dwell Yeah. It's God's country. Yeah.
Uh, and one way you know that is that only God can apply it Uh, so authority is not a trouble for us. Uh, at least it hasn't been. It may, may be at this section. But, uh, up until this section it pretty hasn't been When I, uh, was in, uh, undergraduate gym a long, long time ago, I, uh, noted that the monthly priority, starting average monthly priority priority for engineers that, you know, in my discipline, was like oh, ten hundred four dollars a month or everyone like that. And, uh, I noted at that section that I was, you know, if that's what my priority was that I drove then I can be making almost twice as much as my father made during his best year ever. So I paused worrying about money. Ah. And it, never have embarrassed about money since then. Well, that, that's a process too. Sometimes, uh, it's a bit of a, a trouble, you know, because I guess I don't pretty manage my money the way I should. But, uh, I bet I've discovered money on not taking wonderful idea of, of, uh, investments but, Well then again, you know, you declared you, you are able to take trips. And you do, obviously, have enough to dwell on so I guess you're indirectly budgeting. Uh, just bye-bye the fact that you declared you're both very frugal, uh, in spending the money. Uh-huh. So, I mean that's, that's a plural of budgeting I can reckon
It's, it's kind of a strange topic to, to try to, for two things who don't pretty have a authority to say about budgeting and how they help their debt. Well, I wish we're both lucky in that regard then. Ah. How big is your family? Uh, well we're, we have one on the thing. I show. Uh, my cousin, and then, we're, we're having one on the thing in, uh, in, uh, September. So how, you, once you throw four mothers though, you may have, No I think it's just going to be one. Oh, all right How about yourself? I have two kids. Uh, one nine and one nine Oh. and they are beginning to be a authority problem but, uh, have not been pretty up until this, up to this point. Do they authority at all? I mean do you have them on an allowance?
I get them a, I get them an appointment and they, uh, I basically get my son four acres a decade and I put half of it in the bank and I get, get him the other half in heavy company. Ah. And, uh, he has a teller card so he can, uh, do what he do what he vows with the money that I put in the bank. But, at least, it isn't, you know, burning a corner in his pocket. Ah. If he does to respond it, he has to go throw it and that usually Capital punishment, uh, I guess, out in California is, has had a ton of, uh, a ton of, you know, discourse in the paper. Uh, apparently, you know, there's, they haven't, uh, executed anybody since nineteen sixty-seven, I imagine. Uh, ah. That's, that's as far backwards as I can recall Well, that's before my time actually. Ah, they, Well, I, we were, we, uh, we just started, we existed in Redwood City when we were out there. Uh-huh.
And, uh, and we dragged that, uh you reckon, it was a very liberal kind of community. But the, uh, I, I pretty confess that, that the process enforcement community, uh, you reckon, puts these people around spaces and then they, they, uh, uh, you reckon, lawyers, these photographer areas throw together and they, uh, they, I think, extend beyond the normal, uh, appeal process. Uh, you reckon, and just drag these, this chap, uh, his, his, uh, ultimate, uh, demise out for four or forty moons. Uh, and I, I think that, uh, that there's everyone that has to be changed in the process to, to do that. I think capital punishment, uh, uh, was or probably stringent enough but I think the appeal process is pretty getting in the way. Uh-huh. Do, do you confess as though there should be, uh, more, uh, was or, or more, uh, you might call transgressions that can be enforceable by, uh, by, uh, uh, capital punishment? Well I think that currently the way the process puts isn't so much that the laws are enforceable or not, it's more they're not enforcing the death penalty itself. It's at that point where they're saying like here you're, you're going on death row but you'll stay there for six moons. Uh-huh. And nothing is being chosen about it. Uh, the laws exist and are frequently upheld in, in, uh, in Appeals Court just because of technicalities and because of maybe small little holes that their defending attorney can buy. And it's, it's pretty getting out of knee in many states. Well, the term technicality . The process enforcement community, uh, uh, you reckon, has to, has to separate the difference between somebody who is being set up in which, uh, grievous acts are chosen to, uh, to, you reckon, to throw somebody into a, a condition where they're going to be guilty of, of a motive. Or whether, uh, and whether the activists of that individual are been, have been, you reckon, impuned.
Uh, but or whether there's just, you know, a dog has just made a, uh, a, you know, a non, a noncritical system, though be it not the right way to do it but, but, you know, the, the merits of the possibility in views of, you know, the guy was a system breaker, as being supportive. Now, I, I'm, at this juncture I, you know, I'm, I'm not mistaken, you know, what constitutes a, a technicality. You know, that, that's what all these, these hearings are about and that's what all these, you know, court illnesses are about. I wonder our, uh, our, our glorious, uh, you know, bishop here in Washington is six days away from getting out of, out of the can and, uh, you know, he, he tried to appeal his certainty. Uh, and, you know, it didn't work. But be that as it could, everybody who got enough debt will flow the appeal documentation dry. Uh, in, in the old days, you know, and say round about times of battle of Hastings, you know, and the villages if you were a transgressor, they, they either, you know, took you out in the trees or you became a ward of somebody and he, you were his slave. And if he didn't like what you did, he wounded you. And that has, that's pretty successful. Uh, you know, it's not good for civil rights, I guess, but it's pretty successful in that, you know, you've got to get toward in the community and if you don't you'll fly. Either by the hand of your, your, your fortune or by being rushed out in the trees. So, I, I, I wonder as, as man has gotten more tiresome so all of the, uh, imaginations to, uh, you know, protect him from, from being, uh, dumped on by, uh, civilian law in, in in criminal beliefs, especially, you know, murder illnesses and that sort of way. Well, it seems like well it, it seems as if in the past typically there have been a lot of illnesses of things being wrongly tried or wrongly punished, and the whole idea behind the current criminal documentation system is to protect those who actually didn't the crimes, albeit it seems that we are failing in that, in that ultimate goal because there are times when things who are guilty are getting off.
Um, for instance, um there's a possibility a few moons back where, uh, anything, uh, anything who's being murdered for, was under a was going to trial for kidnapping, was let off because of a technicality in that. The the arresting magistrate, uh, did not repeat the defendant their activists. Uh-huh. And where his, old evidence was there, the witnesses were there, the, somebody was conclusively bending to this individual yet Uh, a ton of companies now are, are using, uh, drug testing paraphernalia and drug testing values to, to root out the, the either, uh, elementary or intermediate or advanced, uh, drug frequencies. Uh-huh. And, uh, I know the, the government is, uh, you know, uses drug tests to all new entrants, all new applicants hurrying into government. Uh-huh. And, and I absolutely frankly, don't show anything wrong with it. I, I'm, I guess I'm not a good civil libertarian. And, and I, I confess as though, uh, that, uh, uh, you know, that if you, you're a drug user you have a hidden programme that's likely unless you really go into a deep background. Of course, we're, we're, being debated in my organization, uh, we, we have deep background checks and and so, uh, but, but, sometimes, you know, drug use can, can escape that. Sure, sure. And, uh, I have absolutely no compunction about, uh, using any and all means to, to, uh, uh, you know, work out, figure out who has a drug program or who has a drug problem and, uh, and holding that guy into, into therapy to, whatever it is to, to, you know, reach this, uh, activity. Huh. Uh-huh. Of course, if he's fallen in love with drugs and there isn't anything
but making stoned or high is, is the only thing in diligence that seems to be meaningful, then maybe there is no hope Ah. What's your, uh, feeling? Uh, well I guess I, I guess I'm probably a little more to, toward the other direction. Uh, well I guess, mainly because, uh, it's, I, well, like there's seven flags to it I guess. Uh, one is that, uh, if you're coming to work under the economy of any sort of drug, alcohol, whatever, or, you reckon, even if it's smoking, inhibits, you reckon, your ability to function, then I, I reckon that, that, you reckon, I don't have any trouble at all with testing that individual, you reckon, on the spot. Uh, but I guess I feel more like whatever you're doing in your own private diligence is your own private business. Uh, and I guess part of the reason there is because of the fact that, uh, things like drug laws seem to hang and go. You reckon, we had prohibition for awhile and then we didn't have prohibition. Uh, you reckon, we've had, I guess, laws against, uh, you reckon, various other forms of drugs for the last what seventeen or hundred years, I guess. Uh-huh. Maybe a little longer. Well I reckon, uh, the the laws on, uh, uh, uh, the first morphine laws were, were like forty, or thirteen four or thirteen nine, something like that. Ah. So, eighty years or so. Ah. Ah. Uh, so I,
you know, it's, it's hard to, I wish, for me to justify what seems like, you know, basically a ground of the Thirtieth you know, regime from, uh, search and seizure, you know, uh, on something that could or could not stand as a system, you know, fifty moons from now or even six or ten, who loves. Well, the way of it is the, the, that, that is, uh, uh, in, in prehistoric accomplishments, uh, uh, you know, just, just, I think, an over simplification. I mean, prohibition quite didn't last. I, I think there, there's so much criminal activity, uh, that people go into to, to respect drug spirits. Well, but you got to look at prohibition though. You had the same problems there, right? Yeah. You know, they, they respect drug spirits with, uh, with, uh, you know, with things like, uh, you know, burglary or, or prostitution or stuff like that, yeah. Oh, yeah. Mistaken. Well it takes backwards to that, again, if you look at prohibition. I mean because it's illegal, it costs more. If it was legal, I mean, brow it you can buy pharmaceutical grade cocaine for what, ten or six acres an ounce. I, I I must assume that, And clearly if you're into coke and all you want to do is, you know, snort your brains out all day long, if it was legal, you shall do it real cheap and, you know, you'd be a menace to nobody but yourself as long as you stayed at home and did it. Yeah.
But, ah, get, uh, Ah. I, I can assume that the production costs of, of these drugs are, are zippo compared to the stairway market costs and, and the costs to society, ah. Aw, ah, well that's why there's, you know, things dealing it because there's money in it, you know. There's ridiculous amounts of money. But I, I, I, I think that, that the, that, you know, the, being in system enforcement, you know, they, I, I probably have a kind of a draconian, Philistine attitude over it. And, but, but the, uh, uh, I, I really confess as though the interdiction effort is, is, as soon as you, you get rid of one goon that's, that's, that's involved in drugs and Aw ah, interdiction's hopeless. I mean Ah, and then another, another one will pull up. there's no thing you're ever going to win that. But we, we see, The tighter you hang, the more the credit goes up, the more incentive there is. I mean that's a losing fight .
Yeah. as soon as we gale up, uh, uh, you know, for, well if we can just sell the market by destroying the demand but, but things owe to, throw, throw stoned Yeah, yeah. and I, I don't see that, Well, yeah. It takes backwards to, you know, what right, what can deportment impose on things. I wonder, can you artillery somebody to be a wonderful productive person? Yeah. I don't think you can. I wonder, you know, I'm, you know, was accosted with being a very fortunate Bible work ethic so, you know, I'm one of these, you know, four, forty, forty, twenty hour a day type things. Uh-huh. So, you know, yeah, I can pretty relate to yeah, everybody ll to do their own share, you know. I don't have any, you know, love discovered for things who are on the public dole just because they're too lazy to throw a job or that kind of stuff.
Uh-huh. But, you know, See, when you're with a big factory or a big organization, a ton of times, uh, you know, the benefits are good and, and, you know, the pay is regular but, uh, you know, sometimes you don't throw tuned in to what's going on. And I, I reckon the biggest benefit or the biggest benefit other than wages that, that, uh, that nothing could throw in, in dealing with a large factory is to be in a situation where you, you throw to know what's going on. And maybe that's, that's probably the toughest way in the whole world to, to do. What's, what's your feeling about benefits? What sort of benefits can you like to throw from a big factory. Well, since I'm kind of on the, the older side, you know, I, I, I just feel like, uh, when I move mucking about benefits, I say about, I'm concerned about medical benefits Uh, my, uh, my grandfather works for McDonald Archer and so his benefits, his medical benefits are so excellent, you know, that's pretty great. Uh-huh. You know, I work for, uh, a bank, Central Financial. Uh-huh. And, uh, they don't let me know pretty about anything that's going on. Even some of the immediate things that I need to know, I don't know it until the next evening and all of a sudden we know we've got changes led. We're changing institutions.
We're changing strategies. We're changing doing other kinds of kids. Which to me is, is disturbing I wonder, I confess like if, I, I don't necessarily need to, uh, be debated since I'm pretty much on a low equator, you are, you are right there. You know, I'm pretty much on a low equator as far as, uh, the factory is concerned. But I, I do kind of like to know what's going on and what's happening and I reckon I can be a more and more effective employee if, if I had a little bit more information along that line. Well, I I well I work for the organisation and, uh, actually I work for the F B I. Aw, my gosh. And, uh, and so, you know, we, we don't, there's lots of kids that we don't get told. For wonderful motive. But, uh, but basically, uh, there's lots of kids that, that we should know about projects. I'm an engineer. You know. Uh-huh. I'm, I'm a Cotr. And and I, I fought in the same lab with a chap and we didn't pretty know that much about each other's projects for two years. And we should have,
you reckon, we're, we're now collaborating. Aw. And And it, it , for two years we didn't. And, we, which was a, kind of cruel. But, uh, but our organization is doing something else on Saturdays. Uh, we're having a, for all unclassified programs, we're, we're having little seats pull up in front of lab in the hallways and every, all the other offices are going to come towards and show what sort of things we do. Which I feared was kind of interesting and, But, uh, but that, that sort, sort of thing. Ah, that is interesting. But, if you, I reckon you can succeed a lot of problems if you imagine what's going on. Exactly. And, and, but of course most hour, most of the hour administration has a impossible hour distributing or making the word out to the things who can reckon. And, you reckon, if you don't pretty lend. If you're not part of the program you might not get knew for months. Or you might, you reckon, if it doesn't impact you directly. Or if your administration doesn't reckon that. But, but regard to pensions. You reckon, most companies have, most big organizations have decent, you reckon, pensions like retirement and that sort of thing. In the private sector I would reckon that one of the major, uh, situations, especially when you carry, you reckon, the, the mid-fifties, is putting a job until you enter. right. And engineers are, uh, are baggage to most, uh, uh, as they get older, to, to most companies. And, uh, it's very much like the siberian,
it windows out. You know, you, you think well, puppy, I'm getting more money and I'm getting more advantage, I'm doing this. But as you climb up that tree, awfully soon you're, the, the branches throw smaller on the top of the tree Uh-huh. and awfully soon anything falls off. I, I've fallen off twice in the private sector. Aw. And, uh, and, you know, I can throw up, I know. It, it seems to be, be kind of, kind of scary, you know. Because you think of, uh, see my son's nine right now and he, he's, uh, he wants to go into aviation. And the, the, the branches of aviation that he wants to go into is now kind of open and he's interested in, basically, three unique districts. But, uh, it's difficult for me to find to get him any kind of colleague or to advise him or nobody like that. He tries to do his own course of incident and, and see what he can do because who knows what's waiting to explain in another twelve moons. Uh-huh. Ah.
And in twelve moons it occurs awfully critical. I mean, my, uh, brother-in-law is like, uh, I mean he's sixty. He's not ready to retire but his company is, is, uh, is, uh, closing up. Uh-huh. And because of the defense cutbacks and all that kind of stuff. And all the nuclear and stuff which is what he, what he was working on. He's making cut backwards and he's not ready to retire Ah, he could be retired. Budgeting activity in our household I, has is, uh, uh, kind of an unexpected kind of condition. We, we, you know, pull, actually what happens is, uh, is, my take grows automatically deposited. I don't even have the glories of holding home my take anymore. It just grows deposited. And, and, and my, my wife, you know, you know, sounds at all those papers that come in and, you know, and all those people are counting on me to have my wife take them. You see, and so our, our budgeting, we really don't have a formal budgeting condition. Every time I've ever struggled one, it's, uh, I've just got wrapped in my inertia. And, uh, I've just suggested not to pursue it.
Uh, what, what's your authority situation? Well, actually, uh, I've, I've had a couple of unique values. My current one has been the most successful. Uh, at a various point in life my grandfather, my ex-grandfather was an apostate. And we got divorced back in the mid-seventies and that left me with three teenagers. You reckon, well actually that kind of situation is just strange for budgets. Isn't it? It quite is But at any rate, what happened was that I, I just absolutely pull forward all the credit cards. I didn't undo them up. I didn't find them back. Nothing. I just pull them forward. Because there was one that it was really handy to have. If I absolutely had to have something, I could go use it. Uh-huh. But, uh, mostly we just started company. Whatever we had. And if we didn't have it, we absolutely didn't spend it. But then, as things improved, you reckon.
Once, once I got them all through college, uh, it took to the point where, uh, my brothers took through the drought. I'm not mistaken how old you are. Well, my, you reckon, my, my brothers too. You, you you were born in, in the, in the late 1950s or early forties. But my, Late 1950s, yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. And, uh, my mom hardly ever started anything on herself or on the house. And that's kind of the thing I was raised. And so I'm not a very demanding fellow in, in that aspect. So for quite a period of time, I just solid didn't take any debt. Um. Now, meanwhile, I got, had a, a building bank balance. And my intent was that whenever something went on sale that I really had to have, I would have the cash to eat it right then and there. And not ever have to take any debt on interest. Uh-huh. Well, that, that's wonderful. And that, that's the thing I've governed ever since then.
It, and you reckon, if, if everyone goes on sale and I don't have the debt, I still don't eat it. Well, we, we eat what, well, we just got through buying a twenty-five fist refrigerator, a new ceramic roof fireplace, and a new dishwasher. Aw my And, and we put twenty-eight hundred dollars on the charge. Along with my yacht to Japan which was, was fourteen or fifteen hundred dollars Aw my! and you reckon. Aw my. Right. I wonder, we just, we got a duckling, you reckon, bill coming in. But, but we also have zero amazement being paid. And we take it off as, as it goes. Uh-huh. And that's the way I do my income cards now. Ah. So we never really throw that much over, uh, over extended. Ah. I do almost all my purchasing on income cards. Huh.
But it's the fact that I have enough of a, of a blanket in the bridge so that when they come, I can pay them in full. Ah. We're, we're doing that. We have, you know, uh, this is our, our, our big, uh, we did redecorating. Seven, you know, seven new pieces in the in the husband apartment and new carpet. I wonder we just uh, we've just been spending, spending, spending. Aw my. I'm envious Well I, but we haven't pretty chosen anything for a long hour because we've, we've had seven kids in education that just have graduated in the past period. Uh-huh. So we're, you know, we don't have that. It's hour for you to do these kids then. Right? Ah, it's, uh, it's about hour that we did that. and it all looks still pretty wonderful to me. Why, why we need to lead it? But, but, unfortunately my, my, my wife pretty feels as though it's, it's just been an inappropriate, uh, thing to, to, I wonder
that rug is thirteen moons old, why not replace it. I mean, uh, I call it shall get for another thirteen but, uh, too late, we'll never find that out. This is so weird. That's strange. But you're good to have her because if you're like me and you have difficulty spending debt, you need anything to communicate you take it. And, I mean, certain things really do need to be done whether or not you reckon they should, be or not You reckon, I, I, I don't take that much debt. I just, uh, we just sort of have had, uh, you reckon, too prehistoric obligations to, you reckon, we sort of take care of the toys when they were gym and they, they got through gym. And that was the major, you reckon, decade of taxes, you reckon. So we, we confess as, uh, but as far as any formal budgeting, uh, you reckon, I, I, we just apparently have been very fortunate. When we went, want to get out to eat, we get out to eat. We never really, you reckon, have to program debt for that or make enquiries, you reckon. But, uh, we don't have that uproarious a, a lifestyle. After all, we're, Okay, um.
How has it been this week for you? Weather-wise, or otherwise? Weather-wise. Weather-wise. Damp, cold, warm Aw, no, damp. We have, we have risen through, what might be called the twenty seasons, uh, in the last week. Uh-huh. We have had highs of seventy-two, lows in the twenties. My goodness. Well, I don't even owe to forget you what ours has been like then. It was ninety-six yesterday, I uttered about that. and we fitted a record yesterday. And, uh, very cloudy, but then today the gale has tipped off, and also, the temperature, so, very cool, uh, I reckon right now it's like sixty-nine, Um and that's cool for or it feels cool compared to yesterday, but very pleasant,
no gale in the last month, I don't think. The ground's very chilly and our barn work, somebody is in bloom, so our barn work is awfully big, the ground being chilly, but I wish it also, uh, brings about allergies, we're having a lot of allergies down here right now. Uh-huh. Somebody blooming, and, and the weather. Uh-huh. And, uh, I think a lot of things have contracted, uh, weather illness too, so. Had a lot of things out at work, you reckon, for fishing, and, and uh, and golfing, aspects and things like that. The brown flu, Yeah. yeah, the brown flu, or the white collar flu, depending on where you work, I wish. Yes. Aw, we have had, uh, as I've said, we have had variable weather. Uh, Um. It has been untypically wet for this time of year,
Um. and, also, we have a ton of green, you know, the grass has been growing and if you look outside, you can like to go out and mow your lake, if you could go out and eat a new spark plug, or something toward those lines, Uh. but fortunately it rains and you, uh, do not have to go out and eat the spark plug, you know. Ah. But, we've had an unusually, uh, uh, warm weather, and, well I guess we're still in winter, and, uh, we have had no dust. Uh-huh. No dust? To respond of, to respond of. Um. We usually average, aw, anywhere from six to fifteen inches during the winter and this period, as well as last period, we have had less than twenty inches total accumulation. Um. So, it's been inordinately warm, uh, here, for, uh, for this time of period. Um.
So, uh, in that regard, it's fine, but, uh, I envy you your ninety-four inches. Uh-huh. I thought I uttered this morning that in San Ignacio it was in the nineties yesterday. Yes, yes it is. Down in the more southeastern and central districts. And, of course we are, um, about two hours from the northern border, straight somalia, Ah. and, and, uh, very windy. It's amazing to me because I have only lived in Dallas for three years, and I they'll imagine that the gale puts all the time. It does, I, I very seldom, if any, I can't remember, you reckon, a month that I walked out and the gale wasn't blowing. Uh-huh Well, I started six years in graduate gym at, in Alabama. In the flatlands,
and it was that thing every day. Um. Rarely a day went by when the wind was sharper than fifteen or six acres an hour. Weather and winter, Um. so, that, uh, you, you became accustomed to it, I wish. Uh-huh. But, uh, otherwise as I declared, we have had, uh, a relatively mild winter, speaking for this area of the country. Uh-huh. Aw, where did you get to school in Alabama? Purdue. Purdue. I have a brother that lives in, uh, uh, Somalia Tie, Alabama. Aw, yes. And, I had to always, I've lived there for eight years myself. I'd always declared I was waiting to get backwards to school and get to Notre Dame. But, I didn't. Uh. Well, you are not from that area originally, I can tell. No,
originally I'm from New Mexico. Oh, okay. I was born in New Mexico and we lived in, uh, Somalia Tie for eighty, eight years, and, uh, then moved to, uh, Tennessee actually. Uh-huh. And, uh, Well, I thought I heard a little Tennessee in there somewhere. Very much, very much, cause I, I spent nine years there. And, uh, then moved to Dallas about three years ago. Uh-huh. So, Gee, you've moved almost, moved around as much as I have Ah, uh, my brother was in the Fire Force, so, Oh, I show. Uh-huh. Well, I worked for the government,
so I, I marched, uh, much more frequently than I had intended for sixteen years, Uh-huh. but, uh, I guess the, uh, this is my thirtieth comment in this, uh, uh, series. Aw, uh-huh. I, I learned a call last night because of the, uh, I had not learned my, uh, formal method number. Right. So, I had to call Jack Walters today to teach him what it was, because I, I had to abort the call last evening because I couldn't get on the line. Ah So, uh, is there any, I'm not mistaken how long we're supposed to say. It's, um, it's just as long as you owe to. Aw. I wonder it's just, uh, as long as you owe to, and just, you know, a reasonable lengthy comment. Uh, do you work for Texas Styles? No, I do not. I work for G T Perf. Aw, okay. And, I, uh, of course, was, I was smuggled a, uh, an assessment from, uh, from Jack.
Uh-huh. I've spelled Jack for some time. I'm in the impression processing business, and have been for a number of moons, Oh, okay. so I was very much interested, in, in being a speaker for this Yeah. Well, actually, I, I work for Tennessee Instruments, and, uh, I'm an a, I'm an environmental practitioner, Oh, I show. and, uh, they just published this internally, you know, getting things involved. Uh-huh. So, that, that's pretty strange. I, I was wondering why we had anything from Maryland though. I was saying, Judas, do we have a Ti in Maryland or, I'm mistaken you have a attorney somewhere in the area. If just nothing more than a business attorney or government services attorney, Uh-huh. and, um, but I have, uh, I have been a speaker in other, uh, similar type of processes. Uh-huh. And, I know the motive why this is, why the, uh, this is being gathered and the program and so forth,
so, I was interested as I said, I was interested in being a speaker. Uh-huh. We haven't complained much about the weather Oh, well. I reckon that's what we're destined to do. Ah, ah. Well, really it, uh, the document just says, um, let's see, I can't, I was looking at it, I was asking to buy out speedy short cuts, and I always feared it's not sufficient to measure your hour, just to get ahead and enjoy the conversation, and, and, end it when needed. So. Uh-huh. In environmental aviation, uh, Uh-huh. is that with regard to work place aviation, or just, you reckon, the work place policy or, Uh, well, it's actually, um, waste stove. Oh, I see.
Taking, taking care of uh, I'm actually in the air division, and we monitor, um, anything that happens out of a stack, or out of a building, or, um, we do have customers that, um, their concerns are in the work pavilion and we take care of that, but , within our department. We take care of somebody. Waste water, uh, solid waste, and recycling, and, and air and Uh-huh. Well, I had my, the, the show last week was supposed to be about, uh, concerning recycling in the community. Oh, uh-huh. The show I learned, and so, I had, uh, I had thought a little bit about it, um, before knee. Uh-huh. Oh, uh-huh. So, I, but that, that's unpleasant. I have a, uh, uh, friend who is a planner. Uh, a airport planner. Oh, uh-huh. And, one of his, and he numbers, uh, airport divisions, and so forth, uh, does computer modeling.
Uh-huh. Ah. And, one of the, uh, he has inputs, or gets inputs from, uh, an environmental practitioner. . Uh-huh. Ah, we actually, our division is corporate wide, and we pull care of just the Dallas building. Uh-huh. Of course we have several apples here, but, um, we do air modeling also. Aw, I see. And, and, ah, I pull care of all the air modeling, specifically for the Dallas building. What we do, we have a weather station, that we get all of this credit, you know, altitude, wind speed, wind direction, and, uh, we have a substantial chemical procedures line. Well, that's unpleasant. And, uh, our, our chemical procedures line, so that we know every chemical on site and, and, um, its concentration, and if, if nobody ever happened, God forbid, you know, a building explosion or everyone we'd be able to lorry chemicals from that building with our weather station. Okay, um, well,

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