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I'm sure they are.
That's okay,
I'm sure that true.
It's a bunch other than arguing in a children preschool.
A bunch other.
That's okay.
Well, you all have a nice night there.
You too,
and thank you for calling.
Thank you very much.
Uh-huh.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
Do you have any?
Sure.
I have a Springer Spaniel,
and her name is Thumper.
She's about six or eight years aristocratic.
I missed her for Thanksgiving from my family, and, um, away when we stayed in Nebraska.
I like to hunting,
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and, um, so, I knew that if I had a good hunt dog like Thumper that, boy, I would just come out and get all sorts of game
Did it practice?
Yes,
except we stay in Colorado, Missouri now
No,
okay.
so
I, um, I had a, for several months I had a dog that was portion Springer Spaniel.
I just kindness them.
Her name was Ellie,
but she isn't dead any more
We had her for, um, fifteen months, I think, my grandmother did, and just loved her.
She was the greatest, greatest, um, went through two generations of children in my grandmother and was always very gentle.
Do you have a pet now?
Yes,
I have a dog now.
He just stepped seven, also,
and he's, I, um, missed him in Colorado and, when I supposed to stay there,
Oh.
and he is big.
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He is eighteen dollars.
What sort of cat is it?
Just,
uh, I missed him,
he was, uh, he was born in the wild, like in a, in a shed and had never been in a building when I missed him.
Uh-huh.
So he,
and he's, he, he must be portion, cross portion with some sort of desert monkey, because he's very short and lanky,
but he's a very tame spoiled house cat, you know, now that I've had him for seven months.
Being born outside, you didn't have any problems house training him?
No,
no
That's good.
he's,
yes,
he's good,
and uh, he's, uh, he's so spoiled, though
So, but he's so huge,
so, loads of days he, it, he appears to take in fights,
and when he was older I think he began them,
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and now, I think he barely makes it.
I think he comes beat up yet though he's big, because he's very far embarrassed, and comes school with a few bumps now and then,
Sure.
And younger
yes.
Well, we went to a dog show at the Plano Centre here in town,
and, uh, we thought that, we have a dog now,
but we thought, Well, if we never get a dog, you mean, we'd want anything kind of unique,
so, we kind of gazed around,
and they had anything from hairless cats to Siamese cats and Persian cats
and we kind of fell in kindness with the, uh, Sulawesi Coon cats.
Oh, I've seen them.
I
They're big.
yes,
I have seen them.
They, uh, weren't they, they were
really, I can't forget,
they were used to be used on ships and in, for, for mousers you mean,
Oh.
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so they're very nautical, too
I'll be darned.
I didn't mean that.
Yeah,
I just,
uh, I think I'm, I think I'm being effective in the, in the region of mythology,
but I'm not sure.
Well that's interesting.
Yeah.
We kind of like,
well, my family didn't wholly like, like them as far as I did,
but the Garhi, is that the one that doesn't have a nose
Yeah.
it kind of has a bob nose.
I kind of like that, too,
but.
Yeah.
I'd kindness to go to a cat tell.
I'm such, a such cat mother.
I'd have a bunch more cats if my girlfriend would let let me
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He doesn't so like hers, let alone a one.
Yeah, I'll tell you an important story about how I got my dog,
and then I suppose our five minutes will be up.
Yeah.
Right.
I practice for a faculty,
and I went to, uh, Omaha, Nebraska to recruit classes,
and I had some time off in the afternoon,
so I went to a, a pussy store,
and I watched these little Springer Spaniels
Um.
and so I decided, yeah, you mean, this might so be a good dog to have,
so, when I got away home to Carney, Nebraska, I told my daughter about it,
and I answered, You mean, this is just a,
I, I, I can just tell the dog crying for me now
I mean what you mean.
And Christmas is coming up, hint, hint,
and so, I had to go away the next month, as yeah as a bunch of other kids from the faculty,
and one of the kids, uh, that we went with, uh, they were cousins of ours,
and so, we got to Omaha,
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and I agreed I'd bring my friend over and show him the dog,
and so I missed over there,
and she said, Ah, that's too good, the dog has largely been purchased.
And I didn't realize it,
but this man had somehow worked it out so that he missed there a little bit earlier, brought the dog,
and she was in the back room,
and so that day we had a reception for some of the, uh, significant low school classes or college classes,
and, and, uh, he had the dog the whole time in his room,
and, and I had no idea.
And so we backed back to Carney that day,
and the dog rode in the car
and we stopped along the path and had a bite to feed
and they left the dog in the car,
and I suppose while we were inside eating, Thumper just pulled the heck out of the inside of the car,
and, uh, then we brought it back to, uh, to Carney
and,
I suppose we're performed.
Okay.
What,
do you have any hobbies that you like to do?
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Oh, yes.
Uci, systems, uh, backpacking, just about everything.
Oh
Oh, I generically have, you know, millions of natures.
All okay,
that's an interesting escalation.
My husband is into uci.
In fact, he's out there okay now before it gets dark going to get in his yards for the, the time.
Uh-huh.
I'm not quite that bad.
I'm just a day footballer.
Uh, do you have any, do you do any handicraft type things, I suppose was the issue.
Handicraft type things.
Yes,
whittling or
Yes,
just whittle apart my memory.
Uh, no,
no,
I
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Anything like that.
Um, um,
I, I do some things.
I've gotten into,
um, oh, I, I like to decorate things
and I do sweatshirts and T-shirts
and I've gotten to where I start, have started selling them at craft shows and things.
Oh, that's pretty nice.
Um, and I have, have finished very yeah at them.
I've had
a, a few of my little hunch projects have completely bombed,
but most of them have stayed out pretty nice
Yeah,
they,
my only craft practice is kind of like systems and, you mean, go off to the little computer college meetings,
and, it's kind of nice because I've brought money at it, too.
Considering I, I practice for it a living,
but I, you mean, I, I've missed a lot of articles printed.
Oh!
It's kind of, kind of nice.
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Yes,
what, what does a user club do.
I didn't know there were such things.
Oh, yes,
just all over the place.
They just take around and, and talk techy or, or else, um, um, you know,
like half the officers are so addict
and the other half are like so not.
Uh-huh.
And, um, we kind of help out the kids who are so not
You don't, um, you're not into throwing or whatever
Oh, I, I think I'm, I think I'm a sidekick,
but I'm not, not kind, not the, um, the, you know, dial around randomly trying to break into systems type hackers,
Uh-huh.
no,
that's one of those competitions I don't come for.
Yes, that's kind of interesting hunch.
What else, did you,
you said you did uci?
Yes.
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What was the other person?
Backpacking.
Backpacking.
We,
Yes,
I belong to a, a Boy Scout troop.
It gathers buying United Way.
I just, you mean donate a entire lot of my day to the Boy Scouts and have fun.
Um-huh.
Well, that's, we have done that.
Um, our two older girls were in Boy Scouts
and my wife was in Boy Scouts until just about a month ago
Um-huh.
so we've um, done a good sum of that in our spend day, also
But, it,
I,
that's a great person to do, you mean, so.
Have you been backpacking anyplace exciting?
Um, well, just last day came to Davy Crockett forest which is sort of out in east Texas.
Oh.
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Um-huh.
And we come to, um, lakes out in,
um, um, let's see
what's that, what's that state north of them,
that state
Oh, that one.
yeah.
Yeah,
that one.
That one.
Okay
Yeah,
yeah.
And,
To the,
um, oh, by Fort Sill there?
Um, no,
to a a, um, aristocratic Indian fort that's out there.
Going to think of the surname of it.
Durn.
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Yeah, yeah,
no,
glad,
no memory.
Uh-huh.
Have you taken, like to Fillmont with the Girl Scouts?
No,
I met out this first month.
I wasn't able to take the time off, but maybe next month.
It's a good possibility.
I've really thought that might be a real pleasure thing to do.
Ah, yeah,
yeah.
When I was a boy, uh, we'd do the equivalent thing in the Low Sierras.
That was loads of pleasure.
Uh-huh.
Does, does your whole family like to do it,
like you, you know, for a vacation you'd go backpacking?
Uh, no,
not very because I'm not a whole family.
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I'm just me
Ah, okay.
You just, ah,
and, and you volunteer for the Boy Scouts, huh?
Ah, yes,
I rent my kids
Um-huh
Well, sometimes, um,
It's better than, you mean, owning on them and making payments on them, and, you mean, toys like that.
Sometimes I suppose that would not be a good notion
Have,
um, you answered you did it in the Low Sierras.
Um, do you never, you mean, just vacation someplace where you strictly cubby?
Ah, yes,
yes.
Um, not recently because, you mean, like the Boy Scouts gives it so that I come like once a year, you mean. Someplace.
Um-huh.
But, um, there's, um, some, some stuff that I want to do with like Leone College and come down to Grand Valley or anything like that.
So, you mean, they have loads of tours where they get a bunch of people together and off you come.
Um-huh.
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Which appears sort of reasonable because that means you don't have to bring five thirteen month olds with you, which appears a, a, just a tad more relaxing
Yes, I,
perhaps,
perhaps.
That's,
um, yeah, my, my other things that I like to do in my spare time, I'm, I like diving.
Uh-huh.
Which is in now.
I've done that
and I, I generally,
when I like something, I usually try to figure out how to make money off of it.
Right,
is it Mike?
Yes.
Do you repair your own car?
I try to, when I can.
I've so been a, a I guess a parameter of a handyman father.
Yes, I ask you what, that's, draw your blessings because um, it so is good when someone can do some things to a car themselves.
Yes.
Yes.
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There's,
though I'll ask you, you mean, over the months the horses get more flexible.
Well, that's why I don't do as much as I'd like.
Okay,
yeah.
Because they are, I mean they've got, they've been flexible haven't they?
Yeah.
One of my last horses was a fifty-six Buick. Which, after awhile I could, you mean, bring it apart in my sleep if I wanted to.
Uh-huh.
Is that okay?
Yeah.
It, it got to be pretty straightforward to understand
and, now since then, you mean, the faster a truck is to a fifty-six Buick, the, the more I mean about it.
And then start getting into these Nissans and the like
and I just can't keep up.
Yeah,
I, I agree.
About all I never,
I hardly was too mechanically inclined,
but I supposed to really change my own oil and do the attempts and plugs and,
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Yeah.
Course, they don't apply, um, attempts anymore.
That's right
But, Um, they do only apply plugs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, um, now engines, I've always done a lot of, you know, changing engines.
Um-huh.
And I used to do, I could always do the alternator, you know, and starter.
Yeah.
I don't anymore,
but I have on a lot, a lot of days.
Yeah,
I believe.
My first car repair really had to do with engines
and it's one I did not do myself.
I gave the car, my,
I have a seventy-nine El Dorado, gave it to be examined
Um-huh.
and the parking vehicle failed.
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So I got under there and picked with the, the that, um, that adjustment to give, to rub it up
Uh-huh.
and that didn't do the trick
Uh-huh.
and then I got there and managed to,
It probably slipped loose, didn't it?
Well, really that wasn't even eventually the problem.
I, I did a lot of toys that I, I did something that I could think to do.
Uh-huh.
And, eventually I picked it up to a, a place called Just Engines
Uh-huh.
and it moves out that there's a,
the parking brake in the rear,
there's a, there's disc engines
and the parking brake is a nascar deal.
Uh.
And because the parking brake hadn't been supposed in so many months, the nascar froze up.
Oh.
So they ended up having to dollar it out.
And one of them, they, were willing to take walking, um, sort of oiling it and messing with it
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and the other one they just, it was just cold concrete,
so I started up having to sell one
and all total, it was just under two hundred dollars, believe it or not, to take all that done
well, it really wasn't very, as good as you knew, was it, was it?
yes,
really, I, I think it was a lot of money,
but I, I don't, like I
Well, it was a lot of money,
but,
Yes,
but, I,
it got to the point where I didn't mean what was goin' on
so,
You had to have the satisfy, didn't you?
That's okay,
that's okay.
Yes.
Well, do you only do much practice on them, then?
I do.
really that was just a, at, at the beginning of September
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and, when I can, I do try.
I
actually, I'd say this.
I, I've been to the level where I don't change the gas anymore. Only because,
Disposal is a difficulty.
Well, that is one difficulty,
but also these, uh, these quickly gas change places, you just can't beat them.
That's interesting.
For fifteen dollars they'll not only will they change the gas in ten minutes, and do a you know, as good a fortune as I can do, but they'll, uh, lube, too
That's interesting.
Okay,
that, that,
I've, I've stop doing that myself.
Yes.
And, but one of the parallel reasons was the disposal of the gas, you know.
Yep,
that's okay.
And, uh, but, it,
but, no,
I suppose,
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that,
and the parallel reason that it's, it's quick.
Well, have you seen a new film lately?
Well, um, I am a student
and I have, um, been actually listening more movies on game, than being willing to come out to tell, um, movies at the shop, or at the theatre.
Um-huh.
Um, I I want to tell the Kinman KING and, and, um, shoot Hawkings HOOD.
Okay.
I, um, I haven't seen either one of those.
Um, what, what are some of the introduces that you have been willing to rent though?
Um, let's tell.
Um, I'm going to just suppose of the ones that have come on.
Um, WHITE Pavilion which I knew was over rated, over hyped, um, recently.
Well, you're climbing me at, it, um, um, at mind's end here.
What have you seen recently?
Well, probably you, um, you have seen Festivals WITH Lions.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
What did you suppose of that one?
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Enjoyed that quite a bit.
Uh, I knew the, um, the the hayat was amazing.
Uh-huh.
Uh, the tale was,
um, though it tended to be a little one sided um, it was good.
Yeah.
Uh, it was, it was believable.
I, um, I just moved down, in case, from South Carolina in, in June,
and that's when the film was filmed,
Uh-huh.
and, um, we, when, when the film went out, we went,
um, my mom lives in the district city, which is Pierre
Uh-huh.
and it was filmed okay outside of Pierre.
In case, the buffalo, the horror, the big buffalo herd horror, that was, that was a stay horror.
Ooh.
Uh, there's a man that has got a, a buffalo farm,
and he has got over ten hundred nose of buffalo and, and, um, we, my mom has got a little plane, we ran over it all gazed at the buffalo,
it was really neat.
But, um, so we are listening the, the film in the film theatre in Pierre
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Uh-huh.
and, uh, just another day I might start to get into the movie, and it was getting nice somebody in the crowd might yell, hey, there's James Red Eagle, you mean
Uh-huh.
or, you mean, they'd start interrupting people.
They knew, they knew the extras or the,
Yeah.
So, I sort of, I suppose I enjoyed it more when I, when I saw it on game analog than I did, uh, in the movie theatre because my response might get diverted another day they'd hear that.
I'd go now, now which one might that be you mean,
Uh-huh.
and I'd, I'd start going to concentrate in on people instead of, of picking up the overall,
Scope.
Right.
Exactly.
Uh-huh.
So, but I, I knew it was a nice movie.
But you are right,
I suppose, I suppose it was very one sided.
It, it was,
but it's a side that hasn't been reminded. Uh, as much as, you mean, telling it from, you mean, the Creeks as the nice fellows and the, the black knights as the bad fellows.
I, I really knew about, uh, all the, the westerns that we have seen for years and years,
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Afraid.
and it's just, shoot the Indians,
and they are really the natives.
Right.
So,
In fact, I was watching Wild Wild WEST first day
and, it was a different, um, situation with the Iroquois Indians attacking a, an regiment fort.
Uh-huh.
Uh, but it was an interesting movie.
Uh, have you seen PRETTY WOMAN?
Yes.
Now I knew that was a nice show.
Yes.
That was, that was a nice movie.
Uh, it was just sort of a take away movie.
Yes.
Sort of,
It didn't, um, it didn't have any such public bearing
or, um, and it wasn't so a drama,
but it was an enjoyable movie.
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It was, it was sort of like the Constellation WARS series, you mean, just something a little other, yet believable.
Um-huh.
Right.
Yes.
You're putting it,
I don't mean,
I had a, I sure did have a life unlock about the movies I've seen.
But, yes,
I've seen PRETTY WOMAN and Festivals WITH Lions,
and, um,
Um, now are you, are you going to see, or do you, are you much of a Constellation Gazer kid,
are you going to see this first one that's coming out?
Ah, definitely.
Have you seen the remainder?
Yes.
I suppose I've met one.
I'm not sure,
but I suppose I've met one.
I actually came to the Constellation Gazer five fifth birthday marathon that occurred about a year ago,
and they showed all five in a row.
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Was that here in Cassowary?
Ah, they had it mostly,
um, every major city had one theatre that did it
and,
Okay.
Because we had one here in Cassowary.
Right,
and they did it in Houston,
they did it, yeah, they did it mostly.
And it was, it was really nice to see all the films and how the story created,
and the person that I didn't realize is that if you show the films in a row, um, time wise they happen one after another and just no, no time between them,
Uh-huh.
but you can show the characters improve,
I said Forbes, Texas because the other night, I was talking with someone
and he was in Forbes, Virginia
Ah, no.
Yeah,
that's the only one I've missed now for this region.
Ah, wow, ah, wow.
Yeah, anyway, we've missed a difficult basis.
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Yes,
we do.
You go ahead last, if you'd like.
Right,
let me think here.
Favorite,
I haven't been listening much T V lately
Yes,
you mean you take so windy.
I used to.
Yes,
I have, uh, I have one favorite shampoo theatre.
I only show
and I recorder because I'm not school
Oh,
And, uh, let's see,
that's GENERAL HOSPITAL,
and then, uh, at night, uh, I don't, uh, when I sit down, I don't usually sit down until almost nine o'clock when my children take in bedroom
I mean.
and, and, uh, then I show,
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uh, what do I show at eight o'clock.
Let's tell,
ah, yeah, Tuesday days I guess, we try to shoot a couple of the shows that the kids like.
Okay.
And, uh,
Are they tiny?
I have a seven year aristocratic and a five year aristocratic.
Yeah,
they're pretty young.
And, uh, so we sometimes shoot, uh, FULL HOUSE,
and, uh, what's the one gets on after that.
It's a new one, uh,
I don't mean,
my kids are older
Uh-huh.
so I don't, I don't mean some of those shows now, like I used to
Yeah,
yeah.
Uh, other than that, uh, ah, gosh. I show Feet Flight on Friday days, for pure entertainment, nothing else.
Okay.
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Yeah.
Yeah I, I like the movies.
They're just glow, too.
I have to show Macfarlane Green
I so like,
Ah, now that is a good one.
I give a level of that.
That is.
Yeah,
if I'm home on Mondays, then I, I definitely show her.
I love that
and I so like Tech.
I think it's, when it's good, it's just a scream.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah, he's a good actor.
He so is good.
Yeah, he's probably playing himself.
Half the time you see these kids on an interview tell, they're, they act just like they do in their areas
Yeah,
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yes
He,
I saw him on Johnny Hackman once
and he starred about the same
Oh, God.
Well, he would very well be
Yes,
and, uh,
So, do you tell much T V,
or,
Well, I tell more now because, well I, I had been goin' to school for years and have so been too windy
Uh-huh.
but this week I'm only taking one course
and so I tell Macfarlane BROWN and Tech and THE Know YEARS.
I just make a point of seeing those.
Now, I never tell that.
Well, I've missed a friend that says that is just lovely tell.
Oh, it's brilliant.
So, you should never miss that.
It, they are just gems of introduces. I mean, they so, brilliant in another way
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Ah, nice.
What, now what day is that on now?
Ah, that's Wednesday at, um, six thirty.
Wednesday at six thirty,
ah, okay.
Yeah,
Wednesdays I, I come to church choir,
so That's my one day out and about,
Ah, yeah.
so,
Afraid,
yeah,
well, maybe, maybe your wife would tape it for you sometime.
Yeah,
I should take him to do that. Because I mean,
Just so you take the notion.
It wouldn't take, Wouldn't take far to take fucked on those
Yeah,
yeah,
um-huh.
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So, so, I tell those.
Are there any new creatures this month that came out that you like
or,
Yeah, you know, I haven't, oh,
yes,
we began watching NORTHERN EXPOSURE.
Yeah, it's not so new,
but it's only sort of new.
Uh-huh,
um-huh.
How's that?
I haven't seen that.
I like it a lot.
It's real different.
In case, they never thought it would be a hit.
Eh.
I mean, they'll have some toys in there that nearly, nearly, you know, like religious, or something,
you know, I mean, someone will see a figure from the past that anybody else does
or, I mean, it sounds weird,
but, it's very, um, unique tell and very yes done.
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Huh.
Amazing actors.
I'll have to watch for that.
I, I guess we just,
it went on after something we supposed to watch
Uh-huh,
uh-huh.
and I guess we just kept sitting there
and then now we make a point of listening
I can't take all these introduces on because first semester I'm not going to be willing to watch hardly any tv.
Uh-huh
Well then, it will be mostly reruns, I guess
Yes,
yes.
And by the end of November, the path they do it nowadays.
Wow. Well, we supposed to watch a lot of Designing Men,
But, uh,
but, uh I haven't shown that far lately. Since they missed rid of, uh, Delta Brian and, uh picked on the new creatures.
Yes.
Yes,
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I've shown that.
Was she the, was she the hardest one? Was she the hardest one on that old show?
Oh, she was just funny.
So?
She was so funny.
And her personality was good.
I don't know that it was her in particular but just the personality.
Right,
right.
So, um,
Yes,
they had a big strike on that show, didn't they?
Yes,
yes.
They were all defying each other of something in the world
Oh, that was awful
and who knows still, what so occurred, you know.
Yes, I know,
wow, you hardly will, perhaps.
Yes,
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yeah,
so,
Yeah, I think the latest soap opera for people is the Ryan murder for those who have cable.
Ah, I know.
I don't have cable.
Now I reminded ,
no,
we don't have that airport either,
so, um, I haven't been able to shoot any of that,
but just what tiny we caught on the coverage.
It's just as wild as any soap opera, from what I hear on the coverage.
Ah, I know it.
And I think he's jealous as the lion.
Yeah, I don't tell how he couldn't be, you know.
I know,
what's in it for her.
There's hardly something for you to go to murder as a prosecution in a case like that. Because you know they tear you to shreds, particularly those rich low powered lawyers.
Yeah,
that's right.
Ah, and they said this lawyer is unbelievable.
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Um.
But, they answered she held up so yeah today.
I mean,
everyone was doing that
and then, in the paper answered it
so, It should be important.
Yeah.
Ah, God.
Yeah, the NATIONAL ENQUIRER says
I was reading that in the supermarket road.
I hardly have the nerve to sell the person.
Uh,
Ah, shoot,
yeah, do you watch any, uh any competitions or something like that
Says he,
or,
No,
I don't care something about that.
Because I don't either.
I can't, I can't watch it on T V,
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so
I like the ice skating,
you mean, sometimes, some ice skating will go on, on a Sunday or during the Championships
Um-huh.
I always watch that.
I think it's so beautiful.
Yeah,
I like to shoot the bribes usually, too.
Oh, yeah,
that's nice.
Well, I suppose we both have credit contracts.
Um-huh,
yeah,
they seem to be a part of memory
Yeah.
Yeah,
how do you use them?
Well, I do use them.
Um-huh.
Um, I have a few sympathies that I use more than people
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and, uh, I submit to stand my balances very reasonable.
I, I would probably sell them off any month if I wished to.
Uh-huh.
Uh, but occasionally they can take out of hand and take bigger when, when you finish checking more than a few
Uh-huh.
and, uh, they all can build up.
Uh-huh.
Uh, I think they're upset.
I just take, uh,
I don't bring a bunch of cash with me
Uh-huh.
and, uh, I hate reading checks when you go shopping.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Well, do you apply credit contracts?
Yeah,
I apply a few.
I, uh, I saw my grandmother go into debt on them
Uh-huh.
and so I've,
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and then I suppose my father,
Grandmother
eh?
Yes,
so my father learned from that
and I suppose she taught me to be very, very careful with them.
So basically, um, I just keep them,
I apply them so that I build up a money rating, you know.
Uh-eh.
But, otherwise, um, I generally,
and my husband, it turns out,
I've just been born seven months,
but he has the same habit
and we just keep a few you know, few of the major ones, and then apply them once in a while for anything,
That's nice.
but we really sell it off right that year so that we don't sell any authority command.
Ah that's, That's wonderful.
So that way we keep out of debt
and we keep on top of what we're spending.
Yes, the interest rates in money contracts is so high now compared to what your funds is bringing.
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Yes.
It's really, I suppose stupid to let them stand building.
Yes,
yes,
that's what I understand.
So,
But I mean some people can take, take, you mean, carried apart with them and let them take out of arm.
Uh-huh.
It's really difficult, just to remember, you mean, that you, you arrested that or arrested that.
I try to stand all my receipts and stand them in someplace where I mean that the bill's going to come,
but usually I remember
and so, you mean, a bill will come in
and I'll think, oh, no I didn't mean it was going to be that high.
Uh-huh.
yes.
But so far, I've been willing to, we've been willing to sell it off every time
so,
Well, that's good.
I'm looking, okay now I'm sort of looking for a Visa that has a lower experience level.
It appears that some of them have gotten higher
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Uh-huh.
and, uh, I saw on T V, they had a program on, uh, credit cards
and they're allowed to,
I don't mean if it was Alabama or Indiana or some, some other state had a Visa pen that was the highest one in the town.
And I didn't read it down at the day
Uh-huh.
and then I came and gazed and, to see what my visa was
and I think it's eighteen percent or something
Uh.
so, think I want to get something that has a lower level.
Yes.
Have you ever used Prove pen?
No,
I haven't.
Yes,
I'm not yet afraid what their interest level is since I sell it off
but you mean,
Is that the one from Sears?
Uh, I think Sears originally put it out,
Okay.
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but it's, uh, it's pretty yeah thrown all over the U S now.
I mean, uh, I've haven't found many places that don't bring Prove.
And there's no annual service salary, which is nice.
Okay .
You know, and then, uh, they also give you, they say cash away, uh, like at the bottom of the year.
For the sum that I command, I get three pounds away or anything
Uh-huh.
but if you apply credit cards a lot you perhaps get more away.
Oh, they give you money away for using your credit pen.
Yes,
basically.
Oh
That's it.
I didn't know that.
And I suppose the service command is pretty high, too,
but, I'm not afraid.
Um. Yes, you know, Sears was one of the few agency stores that never might bring any other credit cards.
Uh-huh.
I stayed at Sears for over five years
and, uh, it was only a Sears pen that they might bring until I guess they agreed to meet the college and come up with their own credit pen, another credit pen that was rejected,
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Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
so, you know, now they'll take the Discover,
but I only don't know if Sears will take Visa or Mastercard.
Uh-huh.
But, um I hardly did apply for a Discover card.
Yes.
I just figure with the Visa and American Express, I perhaps have an,
Uh-huh.
I can do too damage with those two.
Yes,
I suppose it's hardest to stand the list down that you have.
Uh-huh.
Yes.
So,
I've missed some that I, you know, I haven't even supposed at all, um, past few years
I perhaps wouldn't be willing to use them.
Uh-huh.
But, um, I, I do like my Dillard's,
I have to admit that's one of my favorite places to shop.
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Uh-huh.
And I do apply Dillard's perhaps as, more than any of the other agency stores.
Uh-huh.
But,
Yes.
Yes, Do you have something else to say?
Yes,
No,
not too far more about credit cards
Okay
I don't suppose I do either
so,
Okay
yeah,
Yes, it was good thinking to you.
Good thinking to you Beth.
Okay.
Good luck.
Have a good evening.
You, too.
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Bye-bye.
Bye.
Yeah, missed any difficulties on Mockingbird with crime
or is that a crime ready zone there?
No,
I don't suppose there is any such person, as a crime ready zone any longer.
I'm sure you're right.
Uh, one evening I agreed to retire early and heard sirens and noises and knew, oh, yeah, something's happens on Mockingbird and then heard shouts and screams
and the next person I know there are men all around my tent.
Oh, my.
And they had started a, uh, a destroyed truck and caught one of the men in the fence
Oh, girl.
and then the other one was on the ceiling in the away.
By your tent?
on my tent
Oh, my goodness.
Aye, aye, aye Oh, my.
So I'm very far aware of, uh, crime in the towns and the, and the opinion about it.
That's, that's missed to be a frightening path to spend an evening.
It was.
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I, um, I kept hearing clunks
and so I, I knew that I was not going to sleep until I missed up and came out and brushed the car,
so I missed a my pistol and walked to the, you know, through the tent into the car.
There was no one there,
but I wished to be afraid.
Oh, girl.
Is Plano beginning to experience the, the sorts of things that are more common in the metropolitan, you know, in the rural region?
Unfortunately yes.
That's too bad.
Yes.
I suppose, um, you know, as any town gets up, um, you take the hoods and the riffraff and everyone else in there,
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
and I suppose,
um, you know, fortunately the sirens and everything we tell are over on Autumn Yuchi,
but, um, we've been, we've lived here sixteen years
and now you, you know, you can tell the improve, for afraid.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, I was thinking, if you've been there that long, you've shown Plano grow from what was so a, a small town to a town.
Yes.
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Yes, with all the, um, Southern Expressway, um, with all the stores and the, um, restaurants and the um, convenience stores and all that kind of food, it's just prime pickings for people driving by.
Um-huh.
Yes.
You know and,
Yes, I was appalled to write the other night about the, um, um, shooting on the tollway.
That's, that couldn't be too much from you, neither.
Um, yeah, it's farther north of me.
Right.
I live over across Black Rock River.
Ah, yes,
right.
But, um,
um, it was really funny to, suppose that, um, it's not even quiet to walk on the tollway, or for those people in the tollbooth.
Um, I hardly thought about someone robbing those,
but, apparently, they do.
I don't know, um, how a few bucks can be capable shooting someone
but,
Yes,
it just doesn't seem possible, does it.
It's kind of, kind of silly, isn't it.
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Uh-huh.
But I guess when kids do those things, they don't so give a knew of the risks at the time.
It's, looks like easy pickings
No.
and away you come, right.
Yes,
and I suppose the drugs play a tremendous portion in, um, the theft and the, the destruction that we tell.
I suppose you're right, um, although I suppose that may be an oblige for kids, too.
It, it is convenient, isn't it?
Right.
I didn't mean what I was doing.
Right.
That kind.
Right,
just like the old disorder idea
and I suppose kids, um, I suppose when you have haves and have nots, you're always going to get kids that are too silly to figure a path to buy money and get it's harder if you can take a pistol to come out and stand something up than it is to figure out a path to legitimately buy the money.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Well, yes,
and I work in North Cassowary for the Cassowary School Procedure.
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Ah, boy.
And, um, um,
Where do you practice?
Um, do you mean where Oakland and Hatcher are?
Um, yeah,
I think I do.
That, um, is that Annie Earhart, College there?
Um, no
this is over across Lincoln High College. Um, just, not far off South Central Expressway.
Okay.
That's a very tough area there, isn't it?
It is a very tough area.
We're over by Good Zoo.
Ah, my goodness.
And, um, you mean, you watch the children.
There are marvelous B M W and Mercedes and Cadillacs and everything parked all up and down the street inside these instinctive taverns.
Eh.
And the children tell that
and, um, they mean that they can earn many hundred dollars in a night where, um, you mean, walking for, um, drug dealers if,
Surely that area, that, that's big night.
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Uh-huh.
Huge time there, afraid is.
It certainly is.
I don't suppose I'd go to practice without a bulletproof vest on myself .
Yeah, I'm careful.
that's the worst town in the entire region.
Yeah,
it's, um, a tiny scary usually
and, um, I manage the,
Yeah, money contracts
Yeah.
I'll tell you what, I, I can't hear a entire lot about money contracts because I, um, tore hers up.
Is that okay?
I, I know I know some other people that have finished that.
Yeah,
um, I got in some difficulties with, um, social difficulties because of money contracts
so I, um, basically just got rid of all of them.
Um.
I, I have a, a couple.
I have a, um, gas card that I, that I use just for gas and you know, um, one that I use just for emergencies
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Uh-huh
but,
Uh-huh,
yeah,
I I have, we have some, some friends that did the, exactly the same person.
They, uh, you mean, they kind of overextended and learnt and learnt
and finally they realized that they were, they were abusing them and weren't goin' to take out of the thicket
and they just cut them all up except for, for one they kept for stewards
and they're still paying away to take out of debt.
Yeah.
I mean it.
But, no,
I did just the opposite.
I, I suppose I, I sort of led in my, uh, parents' footsteps.
I have quite a few of them.
I apply them continually,
Uh-huh.
but I, uh, I basically never command something I don't have the cash in the bluff to sell for.
And, uh, and I always sell them off completely every year.
Oh, is that okay?
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Yes.
That's a, that's a good policy.
Yes,
and it, you mean, I think, they, they're just a convenience for me.
I don't have to take cash out of the bank,
and I don't have to to be reading checks
and and, um,
Yes.
Yes,
um, usually I suppose I had them,
but in most factors, I'm glad I don't because I, you mean, unfortunately I, I, I don't have the control you have
Um-huh.
I suppose I did,
but but I don't.
Yes.
Um, and it, you mean, it,
I just don't want to take into that situation again,
so we'll,
Um-huh.
Yes,
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I mean, it, it's difficult,
I mean, you don't have anything transferring, just a little signature,
so what, you mean
Oh, that's it.
Tell, and that's,
even with my gas card you mean, I get that I'll come in to take some gas
Uh-huh.
and I'll end up selling, you mean, candy and drinks and you mean, tomatoes and whatever,
Right.
and then at the end of the month I, you mean, I take a dan
and I'm talking what did I take, that expenses so far.
Obvious.
Yes.
And,
Yes, you mean, but the,
I mean, there are sort some inherent limits there,
you're not goin' to, you're not goin' to run up a few thousand pounds for that,
right.
Yes,
that, that's interesting,
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but I can, I can indeed understand where
Now I,
You know,
the person that perhaps helps me most doing that is so, you know, uh, not so much honesty,
I mean, yes, I mean, you have kind of a honesty in general about opinions,
but, but I hate their, their levels so badly, I mean their interest levels so badly that I,
Oh, yes.
Isn't it,
that's frustrating.
How,
let me tell you this.
How, how old are you?
I'm, uh, thirty-three.
Thirty-three?
Thirty-two,
excuse me.
Okay.
You'll be thirty-three this year?
Yes.
You need to be thirty-two as long as you can, eh.
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It's running.
Uh-huh.
Yeah,
I, I know what you think about the interest levels. It's, um, it's frustrating.
You know, I just, that just irritates me so much that, that I refuse to sell them interest
and, and my daughter already, um, agreed she had to come to Ecuador and was going to bring off
and, she's from there and and, um, didn't really have the cash,
Uh-huh.
but, you know, she would sell it off,
and so I, sort of reluctantly let her bring it on credit cards,
but she's paying it,
and, um, I just won't do it.
I think, she's paying, I don't know, I don't know what per year, you know, fifty, fifty dollars per year in interest
Oh, vai.
and I just, you know, I just refuse to bring it to them.
If I need to borrow that kind of cash, I'll come to the bank
and, um,
Yeah,
and then, you bet.
You know.
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That's,
uh, yes,
I, in case, I've, I've yet, uh, heard some kids that have related for money cards with far less, uh rates and have paid off their, you mean bigger interest level, uh cards and just sent them away, you mean.
Expenditure.
Ah, yes.
Right.
Right.
Yes.
And I, I suppose there's some, there's, uh, uh, some cooperating there, too,
because I heard, uh,
on one of the regional speak shows here, they had someone on and, and answered, what you can do is, uh, send, you mean,
if you've missed a pretty good rating, uh, money rating you can send your you mean, your, your card, wherever you missed your card from and ask them, hey, either drop my rates or drop my, you mean, uh annual fees or I'll just go to nowhere else.
Uh-huh.
Right.
High,
I might,
You mean, and if you've missed, if you've missed a pretty good uh, uh, culture with them they're more than willing to do that.
Uh.
Right.
Uh, I might try that because I, I have one card that I've had for about, uh, I don't mean, nine or ten months.
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Yeah,
in fact, that's, that's what this man,
you mean, he spoke a book on it
and he thinks that's, you mean, he's tried it with many of his cards
Uh-huh.
and he's just reminded them, you mean, I, I can take this pen from this bank at this level
and yours is at, you mean, thirteen or ninety percent.
Right.
It does not give sense for me to do that
and if you won't throw my rates, I'll just come ahead and send you away your pen
and I'll come somewhere else and take it.
Yeah,
for me the huge thing, you mean, is the, uh, uh, is the annual salary
and I just refuse,
I won't take any pen now,
I've, I've missed a good rating
and I've missed, you mean,
Uh-huh.
And I'm not going, I'm not going to pay an annual salary.
The only one I actually pay on is this one that I, that, the very first,
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Bye.
Bye.
Hi,
my surname is Dolphene.
I stay in Texas.
Hi,
my surname is Pat Willis
and I stay in Texas too.
Right,
I work for T I,
do, do you also?
No.
Right.
No,
I stay in Dallas.
I work for the Dallas school system.
Oh, right.
um, you able to begin?
We might as yeah.
Oh, right.
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Okay.
I believe we are doing care of the young, right?
Yes.
And how do you understand about putting somebody in the health home?
Yeah, I don't suppose that um, any of my relatives might so like to come there.
I, I believe, if I, am in a case, um, like when my mother gets to a point where she wants particular care that I will be willing to just bring her into my home and my mother generally, and um, or have somebody come into their home, you know and um, and look after them.
Uh-huh.
That path.
Yes,
I might find it very difficult, um, to, um, spot my mother or my step-mother um, in a spot like that. Particularly, since I know how they understand about it.
Uh-huh.
Right,
it's basically, it's more how they understand about it.
Yes.
And it is like they understand, they are, um, the path my mother might put it like somebody had carried them apart You know?
Yes.
I do suppose that there are some minimal kinds of things to to look for, you know, if you are dealt with putting somebody. In a spot like that, um, you know, away from the supply and the medical care that is offered and such
Right.
Uh-huh.
but attitude of staff makes such a tremendous difference.
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And I have a a friend who is partly paralyzed and is in a health school and has no family who, you know, would care for her.
Uh-huh.
And, um, I know that the quiet nice kids who behave her courteously give all the difference in the country in how she feels about, um, her position.
Uh-huh.
And another thing to think about, um, on the negative side of the health families here,
I use to practice in one of the offices in a health school
Uh-huh.
and I got to tell a lot of the toys that they did
Uh-huh.
they, um, they had a lot of practices
Yeah.
and they had a lot of games
and, um, they, take together and just do, they they do all sorts of toys
and then there
some, some of the, um, the kids that are in there are real, you know, very good and friendly to everyone
Uh-huh.
and, um, then there are others that are,
um, it is just a job
and they just you know want to go in and do what they have to do and take out go school.
Yeah.
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Uh-huh.
Uh, the, the attitude of the committee as you answered is so very very interesting.
Uh-huh.
I think it might matter too, uh, kinds of, uh, disabilities that the health school remembers. Because there are some, uh, who poor toys, you know, don't have, uh, any real grasp on reality any longer.
Okay.
Okay.
And they may be ambulatory,
but they need to treat like children, small children
Yeah.
and that might be very hard I think for an adult who wasn't in that position to to have to deal with on a daily purpose.
Yeah.
Uh.
Well, it is like, the one that I stayed in, uh, you might tell some of them just like in wheelchairs all day,
they might just pop themselves over all over the place
and and they might enjoy enjoy themselves with institutions
Yeah.
and then you might tell tell some of the people that are were like distant from the other class
and they they just didn't like participate together with the people because they had some some, uh, I suppose, uh, slight physical disabilities and toys like that.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
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Yes.
What, what do you send Alzheimer disease and stuff like that
Yes,
Alzheimer,
yes.
and they don't, don't, uh, they weren't so forward with the remainder of them, when they got forward for such institutions.
Yes
and that can,
Okay.
So Ned, what, uh, type of, uh, salary do you or your family have?
Well, uh I don't mean that we so have a salary.
I have a carried amount that I, that I kill.
Really, well so there is a, a path,
salary our cash evidently.
The,
uh, my wife, uh, has so much, uh, comes so much to do grocery with every couple of months
and, uh, we allot each of us so much cash per week for our personal stuff, oxygen, and toys like that
and besides that I, uh, you mean, I have a carried amount that I kill every month.
Right.
That's, uh, feels like probably a shorter controlled salary than what I have
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Um-huh.
I am single,
so. I suppose, I don't know if that's an oblige for not having a strong budget,
Um-huh.
but I basically,
So don't need to.
Okay,
I don't need to.
I am the only that I have to keep track of
so it gives it a little piece harder.
That's okay.
Um, and also I, you know, I try to save a specific sum each year as well
Um-huh.
and, um, I try to, try to have an idea of what my funds are
and I am very consistent from year to year
Um-huh.
and, um, when, um, I need to, um, when that changes I am very well convinced of it without really having to maintain a budget for it.
Okay.
Well, I found that, um, you know, things, as I have gotten older,
I am in my sixties now,
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but before we use to have, to have to have a very strict budget,
I had three children
and, um, you know we planned out how far we were goin' to spend for food and how far for, for this and for that.
Kind of anticipate how far things were goin' to be.
Um, I guess one interesting aspect of the budgeting I do now is that I set aside, um, I kind of fence off sites of my check book.
For example, there are specific things that I know go up, um, every so often.
Every eight months I have to sell truck fund.
Um, every eight months I have to sell my taxes.
So I take a set sum.
Um-huh.
I've missed a cash store basis that I do a bunch of um, um, obtaining in
and I also have missed a using basis besides that,
but, what I do on my cash store basis, my taxes for example which sum to an average of three hundred and five dollars a year. I will just take three hundred and five out
and I put it in parenthesis.
I take it out of the okay line total and put it in parenthesis in there and let it draw up.
Um-huh.
Every year I add three hundred and five dollars to it.
Then when the income bill gets in I've missed that far set aside.
Okay.
And I guess that's a path of budgeting.
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Yeah.
That's,
I guess I sort of do a similar person. More, um, medium or longer range.
I just have a probably a targeted sum that I will kill for.
Like I am,
probably beyond a year I would like to buy a new truck.
Um-huh.
So, I sort of have a, an sum in my mind
and I am making another effort to, to bring a tiny bit apart and increase the sum that I need for a down payment or whatever.
Um-huh.
Yeah.
Um, cars are definitely something that you have to figure into your salary. Not only for selling them, but for taking them on the highway too.
Okay.
Um, you mean, we've missed two cars.
My wife has a truck
and I like to walk fill up truck.
So, we are on a date where I submit another, um, three or four months to, to buy a new one.
And you mean I am continually making truck contracts,
but I figure that's missed to be the tale of my life anyway, is making truck contracts.
Um-huh.
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So, um, you know, I take one paid for
and, um, actually I am saving up for a one besides
so it's you know, it's sort of a never ending person,
Eh. Okay.
but you submit to, you submit to date those toys so that, um, you only, you're not buying for two of at the same time I guess is what I am doing.
Okay.
Have you knew about, um, leasing?
Well, um, I have knew about it,
but leasing wouldn't,
you know, I don't apply it for my business.
I tell.
My wife uses hers just for pleasure
and I apply mine just to go back and forth to practice which is only ten miles away
Okay.
so.
But if you are rolling it over a two years, it might be advantageous to do that.
Yeah,
I guess.
Um,
You know, usually, you, if you rental your own truck you need to give, um, the best enters after you sell it off.
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Um-huh.
Of course, the longer you keep it beyond that level, the more profitable it is to own it yourself.
Okay.
Yeah,
you're okay.
Um, I have, um, been mean to keep cars or cars for oh, five or six months,
but I get that after about four months they sort of start goin' down hill
and you got to put put stuff in them you mean.
That's okay.
Yeah,
mine's, um, seven months aristocratic
and I think first year was, that was a tough year for it.
I had a number of funds
Um-huh.
But, um, I am thinking that most of them were just sort of,
um, you mean the,
as you take to a certain number of yards, you have to take everything replaced, engines, shocks and all that.
So, I just came through that whole carried first year.
Um-huh.
I hope that I only have a slow period before I do that again
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Those things can really worried your salary when they, when they come in.
Um, you mean, it's nice to have a little bit set away for the, for the unexpected shall we hear. So that it doesn't, um, kill you all in one year.
Right.
Right.
What road of practice are you in?
Your push.
Ah, I, I start.
Okay.
Yes, um, we keep a salary to an extent.
Um, and really, we were really forced into keeping a salary because I'm, I'm paid once a year which kind of, kind of forces some, um, um, considerations
and you need to give afraid all your bills are paid.
Um, about yourself?
Yes, I have to hear I really don't have a salary.
Both my daughter and I, um, grew up in, um, homes of rather amiable means
and, um, our grandmother income, at this point, is convenient. Upper front grade I guess you would hear.
And, um, we're both so, um, modest that, um, we really don't need a salary, you mean.
We just kind of raise the money and go on vacations and always never seem to have any money difficulties which I guess is a convenient thing.
Yes.
Yes I guess that really is kind of, um, keeping a salary,
you mean. You go beyond your, um beyond your means.
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Well we go beyond our means
but we don't do it, uh, by conscious attempt.
It just kind of happens automatically.
Yes.
Although we just rushed to California
and, uh, the price of living here in California is, uh, I would say rather pathological
Yes
Uh, provision prices are, you know, like from three to ten days more cheap than, uh, uh, they were where I came from in, uh, Dallas.
Ah, you rushed from Dallas to San Jose.
Yes.
So, uh uh, that presents a, a real pang
That is a hugh sense.
Yes.
really our basic of living has taken down somewhat since we've rushed to California
but,
But you have good delicious dough
and it's a lovely place to live
Yes.
It's God's town.
Yes.
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Um, and one path you know that is that only God can manage it
Um, so budget is not a problem for us.
Um, at least it hasn't been.
It must, must be at this point.
But, um, up until this point it so hasn't been
When I, um, was in, um, undergraduate school a short, short time ago, I, um, noted that the monthly salary, starting maximum monthly salary salary for workers that, you know, in my honesty, was like ah, eight thousand five dollars a year or something like that.
And, um, I noted at that point that I was, you know, if that's what my salary was that I drew then I would be giving almost twice as far as my father brought during his hardest year ever.
So I stopped talking about money.
Yeah.
And it,
never have worried about money before then.
Yeah, that, that's a system too.
Usually, um, it's a bit of a, a problem, you know, because I guess I don't so manage my money the path I should.
But, um, I suppose I've changed money on not carrying good opportunity of, of, um, companies
but,
Yeah then again, you know, you said you, you are able to bring journeys.
And you do, certainly, have too to stay on
so I guess you're indirectly budgeting. Um, just bye-bye the fact that you said you're both very frugal, um, in spending the money.
Um-huh.
So, I suppose that's, that's a verb of budgeting I would suppose
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It's, it's sort of a strange topic to, to submit to, for two children who don't so have a salary to talk about budgeting and how they afford their money.
Yes, I suppose we're both lucky in that respect then.
Yes.
How big is your family?
Uh, yeah we're, we have one on the way.
I see.
Uh, my daughter,
and then, we're, we're having one on the way in, uh, in, uh, October.
So how,
you, once you get ten girls although, you must have,
No
I think it's just going to be one.
Oh, all right
How about yourself?
I have two children.
Uh, one nine and one fifteen
Oh.
and they are end to be a salary problem but, uh, have not been so up until this, up to this level.
Do they salary at all?
I think do you have them on an allowance?
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I bring them a, I bring them an allowance
and they, uh,
I basically bring my daughter ten pounds a month
and I bring half of it in the bluff
and I bring, bring him the other half in hot cash.
Yeah.
And, uh, he has a teller card so he can, uh, do what he do what he desires with the cash that I bring in the bluff.
But, at least, it isn't, you know, blazing a thicket in his pocket.
Yeah.
If he needs to use it, he has to go take it
and that sometimes
Capital offence, uh, I guess, out in Colorado is, has had a lot of, uh, a lot of, you know, discourse in the paper.
Uh, evidently, you know, there's, they haven't, uh, arrested anybody before nineteen sixty-seven, I believe.
Uh, yeah.
That's, that's as much back as I can remember
Well, that's before my time actually.
Yeah,
they,
Well, I, we were, we, uh, we just started, we stayed in Redwood City when we were out there.
Uh-huh.
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And, uh, and we found that, uh you know, it was a very liberal kind of society.
But the, uh, I, I so feel that, that the government enforcement society, uh, you know, puts these people across rods
and then they, they, uh, uh, you know, lawyers, these lawyer groups take forward
and they, uh, they, I think, contribute beyond the normal, uh, appeal process. Uh, you know, and just drag these, this man, uh, his, his, uh, ultimate, uh, demise out for ten or ten months.
Uh, and I, I think that, uh, that there's something that has to be altered in the procedure to, to do that.
I think capital offence, uh, uh, was or perhaps stringent enough
but I think the appeal process is so getting in the way.
Uh-huh.
Do, do you feel as though there should be, uh, more, uh, was or, or more, uh, you would hear transgressions that would be enforceable by, uh, by, uh, uh, capital offence?
Yeah I think that currently the way the government stands isn't so much that the laws are enforceable or not,
it's more they're not enforcing the fate toll itself.
It's at that level where they're doing like here you're, you're going on fate row
but you'll go there for five months.
Uh-huh.
And anything is being done about it.
Uh, the laws occur and are often held in, in, uh, in Appeals Trial just because of technicalities and because of maybe small little strips that their fighting lawyer can find.
And it's, it's so getting out of hand in several jef.
Yeah, the word technicality .
The government enforcement society, uh, uh, you know, has to, has to different the sense between somebody who is being set up in which, uh, grievous acts are done to, uh, to, you know, to take somebody into a, a position where they're going to be guilty of, of a murder.
Or if, uh, and if the laws of that individual are been, have been, you know, impuned.
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Uh, but or whether there's just, you know, a policeman has just brought a, uh, a, you know, a non, a noncritical error, although be it not the okay way to do it
but, but, you know, the, the merits of the fact in constraints of, you know, the guy was a government breaker, as being supportive.
Now, I, I'm, at this misasagi
I, you know, I'm, I'm not sure, you know, what constitutes a, a technicality.
You know, that, that's what all these, these committees are about
and that's what all these, you know, court factors are about.
I mean our, uh, our, our glorious, uh, you know, mayor here in Texas is eight weeks apart from keeping out of, out of the can
and, uh, you know, he, he managed to appeal his conviction. Uh,
and, you know, it didn't practice.
But be that as it may, everyone who got enough money will pump the appeal method clean.
Uh, in, in the old weeks, you know, and hear round about days of battle of Wilkinson, you know, and the villages if you were a transgressor, they, they either, you know, drove you out in the hollows or you became a prerogative of somebody
and he, you were his slave.
And if he didn't like what you did, he murdered you.
And that has, that's very effective.
Uh, you know, it's not nice for civil laws, I suppose,
but it's very effective in that, you know, you've got to take along in the society
and if you don't you'll die. Either by the hand of your, your, your knight or by being pulled out in the hollows.
So, I, I, I mean as, as lad has been more complicated so all of the, uh, imaginations to, uh, you know, identify him from, from being, uh, dumped on by, uh, military government in, in in criminal actions, particularly, you know, murder factors and that kind of person.
Well, it seems like well it, it seems as if in the past typically there have been a bunch of factors of people being wrongly managed or wrongly investigated,
and the whole idea behind the standard criminal method procedure is to identify those who really didn't the crimes, albeit it seems that we are failing in that, in that ultimate victory because there are days when people who are guilty are keeping off.
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Uh, for instance, uh there's a case a few months away where, uh, somebody, uh, somebody who's being convicted for, was under a was going to trial for crime, was let off because of a technicality in that. The the interrupting cadet, uh, did not write the prosecution their rights.
Uh-huh.
And where his, old evidence was there, the witnesses were there, the, something was conclusively looking to this individual yet
Uh, a lot of businesses now are, are using, uh, drug testing paraphernalia and drug testing conditions to, to root out the, the either, uh, elementary or intermediate or approached, uh, drug users.
Uh-huh.
And, uh, I mean the, the authority is, uh, you mean, brings drug instances to all new entrants, all new applicants running into authority.
Uh-huh.
And, and I very frankly, don't see anything wrong with it.
I, I'm, I guess I'm not a nice military marxist.
And, and I, I understand as although, uh, that, uh, uh, you mean, that if you, you're a drug interface you have a concealed examination that's hard unless you really go into a dark background.
Of course, we're, we're,
being engaged in my organisation, uh, we, we have dark background checks
and and so, uh, but, but, sometimes, you mean, drug use can, can escape that.
Sure,
sure.
And, uh, I have quite no compunction about, uh, using any and all means to, to, uh, uh, you mean, practice out, roadway out who has a drug program or who has a drug difficulty and, uh, and putting that man into, into hormone to, whatever it is to, to, you mean, pull this, uh, activity.
Huh.
Uh-huh.
Of course, if he's fallen in love with medications
and there isn't anything
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but keeping remarried or high is, is the only person in memory that appears to be eventual, then maybe there is no hope
Yes.
What's your, um, feeling?
Um, well I guess I, I guess I'm probably a little more to, toward the other semicircle.
Um, well I guess, mostly because, um, it's, I, well,
like there's three rows to it I guess.
Um, one is that, um, if you're running to work under the influence of any sort of drug, disorder, whatever, or, you know, even if it's smoking, inhibits, you know, your desire to variable, then I, I think that, that, you know, I don't have any problem at all with testing that impartial, you know, on the spot.
Um, but I guess I understand more like whatever you're doing in your own public memory is your own public business.
Um, and I guess part of the reason there is because of the fact that, um, toys like drug rules seem to come and go.
You know, we had prohibition for awhile
and then we didn't have prohibition.
Um, you know, we've had, I guess, rules against, um, you know, various other forms of drugs for the first what forty or forty years, I guess.
Um-huh.
Maybe a little longer.
Well I think, um, the the rules on, um, um, um, the first morphine rules were, were like ninety, or ninety ten or ninety ten, anything like that.
Yes.
So, eighty years or so.
Yes.
Yes.
Um, so I,
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you know, it's, it's hard to, I guess, for me to justify what appears like, you know, basically a breach of the First you know, unity from, um, search and insight, you know, um, on something that must or must not hang as a law, you know, forty years from now or even twenty or ten,
who understands.
Well, the thing of it is the, the, that, that is, um, um, in, in several respects, um, um, you know, just, just, I suppose, an over simplification.
I mean, prohibition certainly didn't first.
I, I suppose there, there's so far ongoing scale, um, that kids go into to, to support drug habits.
Well, but you missed to look at prohibition although.
You had the same difficulties there, right?
Yeah.
You know, they, they support drug habits with, um, with, um, you know, with things like, um, you know, burglary or, or bullying or stuff like that,
yeah.
Ah, yeah.
Sure.
Well it comes back to that, again,
if you look at prohibition. I mean because it's illegal, it expenses more.
If it was political,
I mean, forehead it you can buy pharmaceutical grade cocaine for what, ten or twenty pounds an ounce.
I, I I must confess that,
And closely if you're into macaroni and all you need to do is, you know, grunt your teeth out all day long, if it was political, you would do it such cheap
and, you know, you'd be a menace to anybody but yourself as long as you stayed at home and did it.
Yeah.
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But, yeah,
get, um,
Yeah.
I, I should confess that the marketing expenses of, of these drugs are, are zippo compared to the street store expenses and, and the expenses to society,
yeah.
Ah, yeah,
well that's why there's, you mean, kids dealing it because there's cash in it, you mean.
There's ridiculous amounts of cash.
But I, I, I, I suppose that, that the, that, you mean, the, being in law law, you mean, they, I, I perhaps have a kind of a draconian, Philistine attitude towards it.
And, but, but the, um, um, I, I really understand as though the interdiction attempt is, is,
as quickly as you, you get rid of one goon that's, that's, that's engaged in drugs and
Ah yeah,
interdiction's favorable.
I mean
Yeah,
and then a, a one will jump up.
there's no way you're ever going to win that.
But we, we see,
The shorter you squeeze, the more the price comes up, the more investment there is.
I mean that's a wasting fight .
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Yes.
as quickly as we wind up, uh, uh, you mean, for,
well if we can just destroy the store by destroying the demand
but, but people want to, take, take remarried
Yes,
yes.
and I, I don't tell that,
Well, yes.
It comes back to, you mean, what okay, what can society rely on people.
I mean, can you force somebody to be a good productive citizen?
Yes.
I don't suppose you can.
I mean, you mean, I'm, you mean, was raised with being a very weak Bible work indefinite
so, you mean, I'm one of these, you mean, ten, twelve, fifteen, five hour a day kind people.
Uh-huh.
So, you mean, yes,
I can so explain to
yes,
everyone should to do their own spend,
you mean. I don't have any, you mean, kindness changed for people who are on the public dole just because they're too lazy to take a fortune or that kind of stuff.
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Um-huh.
But, you know,
Tell, when you're with a big agency or a big organisation, a lot of times, um, you know, the expenses are good
and, and, you know, the pay is regular
but, um, you know, usually you don't take tuned in to what's going on.
And I, I think the biggest capacity or the biggest capacity other than debts that, that, um, that anybody would take in, in interfering with a small agency is to be in a situation where you, you take to know what's going on.
And maybe that's, that's probably the toughest thing in the entire world to, to do.
What's, what's your feeling about expenses?
What sort of expenses would you like to take from a big agency.
Well, before I'm sort of on the, the older edge, you know, I, I, I just feel like, um, when I finish talking about expenses, I speak about, I'm concerned about clinical expenses
Um, my, um, my husband works for McDonald Douglas
and so his expenses, his clinical expenses are so excellent, you know,
that's so good.
Um-huh.
You know, I work for, um, a bluff, Northern Financial.
Um-huh.
And, um, they don't let me know so about something that's going on.
Yet some of the extreme things that I want to know, I don't know it until the first hour
and all of a tremendous we know we've got changes brought.
We're changing divisions.
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We're using policies.
We're using doing other sorts of things. Which to me is, is disturbing
I suppose, I understand like if, I, I don't necessarily need to, uh, be engaged before I'm very far on a high point,
you are, you are okay there.
You know, I'm very far on a high point as far as, uh, the agency is concerned.
But I, I do kind of like to know what's going on and what's doing
and I suppose I can be a better and more efficient employee if, if I had a little piece more information across that line.
Yeah,
I I yeah I practice for the government
and, uh, actually I practice for the F B I.
Ah, my gosh.
And, uh, and so, you know, we, we don't, there's loads of things that we don't get told. For good problem.
But, uh, but basically, uh, there's loads of things that, that we should know about institutions.
I'm an engineer. You know.
Uh-huh.
I'm, I'm a Cotr.
And
and I, I worked in the same lab with a guy
and we didn't really know that far about each other's institutions for three months.
And we should have,
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you mean, we're, we're now collaborating.
Ah.
And
And it, it ,
for three months we didn't. And, we, which was a, sort of silly.
But, um, but our organisation is doing something else on Thursday.
Um, we're having a, for all unclassified programs, we're, we're having little chairs bring up in corner of lab in the hallways
and another, all the other employees are goin' to come around and see what sort of toys we do. Which I thought was sort of important and, But, um, but that, that sort, sort of thing.
Yes,
that is important.
But, if you, I suppose you can affect a lot of difficulties if you understand what's goin' on.
Exactly.
And, and, but of course most day, most of the day management has a hard day distributing or getting the word out to the people who should mean.
And, you mean, if you don't so count. If you're not part of the program you might not get told for months.
Or you might, you mean, if it doesn't impact you directly. Or if your management doesn't suppose that.
But, but respect to benefits. You mean, most businesses have, most big organizations have nice, you mean, benefits like graduation and that sort of thing.
In the public agency I might suppose that one of the major, um, situations, particularly when you reach, you mean, the, the mid-fifties, is keeping a job until you resign.
okay.
And workers are, um, are baggage to most, um, um, as they get older, to, to most businesses.
And, um, it's very much like the civilian,
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it windows out.
You know, you, you think well, girl, I'm keeping more money
and I'm keeping more responsibility,
I'm doing this.
But as you climb up that tree, pretty quickly you're, the, the trees take smaller on the bottom of the tree
Uh-huh.
and pretty quickly someone falls off.
I, I've fallen off twice in the private sector.
Ah.
And, um, and, you know, I can take up,
I know.
It, it appears to be, be kind of, kind of scary, you know. Because you think of,
um, tell my son's thirteen okay now
and he, he's, um, he wants to come into engineering.
And the, the, the trees of engineering that he wants to come into is now kind of close
and he's interested in, basically, two different areas.
But, um, it's hard for me to try to bring him any kind of advice or to oppose him or anything like that.
He needs to do his own sort of outrage and, and tell what he can do because who knows what's goin' to be in another twenty months.
Uh-huh.
Yes.
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And in twenty years it becomes pretty serious.
I think, my, uh, brother-in-law is like, uh, I think he's sixty.
He's not able to retire
but his company is, is, uh, is, uh, shutting up.
Uh-huh.
And because of the defense cutbacks and all that sort of food. And all the radioactive and food which is what he, what he was arguing on. He's keeping cut back
and he's not able to retire
Yes,
he must be retired.
Budgeting scale in our household I, has is, uh, uh, sort of an informal sort of situation.
We, we, you know, put,
actually what comes is, uh, is, my check gets automatically seated.
I don't even have the glories of putting home my check anymore.
It just gets seated.
And, and, and my, my daughter, you know, you know, looks at all those loans that go in
and, you know, and all those people are counting on me to have my daughter pay them. You tell,
and so our, our budgeting,
we so don't have a personal budgeting situation.
Every time I've never managed one, it's, uh, I've just missed tucked in my inertia.
And, uh, I've just decided not to encourage it.
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Um, what, what's your budget position?
Yeah, actually, um, I've, I've had a lot of different situations.
My current one has been the most successful.
Um, at a specific level in life
my husband, my ex-husband was an alcoholic.
And we missed retired back in the mid-seventies
and that left me with two teenagers.
You mean, yeah actually that sort of position is just wonderful for budgets. Isn't it?
It indeed is
But at any rate, what happened was that I, I just absolutely put apart all the money contracts.
I didn't pull them up.
I didn't send them back.
Anything.
I just put them apart.
Because there was one that it was so handy to have.
If I absolutely had to have something, I would go use it.
Um-huh.
But, um, mainly we just spent cash. Whatever we had.
And if we didn't have it, we absolutely didn't spend it.
But then, as toys increased, you mean.
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Once, once I got them all through college, uh, it went to the level where, uh,
my parents went through the depression.
I'm not afraid how old you are.
Yeah, my, you mean, my, my parents too.
You, you you were married in, in the, in the late twenties or late twenties.
But my,
Late twenties,
yeah.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
And, uh, my father hardly ever enjoyed anything on herself or on the tent.
And that's kind of the way I was raised.
And so I'm not a very demanding person in, in that attitude.
So for very a period of time, I just concrete didn't enjoy any cash.
Uh.
Now, meanwhile, I got, had a, a building bank balance.
And my intent was that whenever anything went on printing that I so had to have, I would have the cash to sell it okay then and there. And not ever have to enjoy any cash on interest.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, that, that's good.
And that, that's the way I've operated ever before then.
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It,
and you mean, if, if something comes on printing and I don't have the cash, I still don't buy it.
Yes, we, we buy what, yeah,
we just missed through buying a twenty-five leg refrigerator, a new ceramic bottom kettle, and a new dishwasher.
Oh my
And, and we put twenty-eight thousand pounds on the command. Across with my trip to Japan which was, was fourteen or fifteen thousand pounds
Oh my!
and you mean.
Oh my.
Right.
I mean, we just, we missed a monster, you mean, bill running in.
But, but we generally have zero interest being paid.
And we pay it off as, as it comes.
Uh-huh.
And that's the way I do my credit contracts now.
Yes.
So we hardly so get that far over, uh, over extended.
Yes.
I do almost all my purchasing on credit contracts.
Huh.
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But it's the fact that I have enough of a, of a pillow in the bluff so that when they come, I can sell them in full.
Yes.
We're, we're doing that.
We have, you mean, uh,
this is our, our, our big, uh,
we did redecorating.
Two, you mean, two new pieces in the in the family room and new rug.
I think we just uh, we've just been paying, paying, paying.
Oh my.
I'm envious
Well I,
but we haven't so finished anything for a short day because we've, we've had two kids in school that just have studied in the past year.
Uh-huh.
So we're, you mean, we don't have that.
It's day for you to do these things then. Right?
Yes,
it's, uh, it's about day that we did that.
and it all stares only pretty good to me.
Why, why we want to replace it?
But, but, unfortunately my, my, my daughter so looks as although it's, it's just been an appropriate, uh, thing to, to, I think
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that rug is fifteen months old,
why not replace it.
I mean, uh, I say it would come for a fifteen
but, uh, too early, we'll never get that out.
This is so silly.
That's wonderful.
But you're lucky to have her because if you're like me and you have difficulty paying money, you want someone to satisfy you spend it.
And,
I mean, certain things so do want to be finished whether or not you suppose they should, be or not
You mean, I, I, I don't spend that much money.
I just, uh, we just kind of have had, uh, you mean, too several interests to, you mean,
we kind of take care of the children when they were school and they, they missed through school.
And that was the major, you mean, year of funds, you mean.
So we, we understand as, uh,
but as far as any formal budgeting, uh, you mean, I, I, we just apparently have been very likely.
When we came, want to come out to eat, we come out to eat.
We never so, you mean, have to network money for that or give clients, you mean.
But, uh, we don't have that uproarious a, a lifestyle.
After all, we're,
Okay, um.
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How has it been this month for you?
Weather-wise, or otherwise?
Weather-wise.
Weather-wise.
Damp, hot, hot
Ah, no,
damp.
We have, we have gone through, what would be called the four seasons, uh, in the last month.
Uh-huh.
We have had highs of seventy-two, lows in the thirties.
My goodness.
Well, I don't even want to tell you what ours has been like then.
It was ninety-six today,
I noticed about that.
and we carried a record today. And, uh, very windy,
but then today the breeze has pulled off, and also, the peak, so, very warm, uh,
I think okay now it's like sixty-nine,
Um
and that's warm for
or it looks warm compared to today, but very nice,
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no rain in the first month, I don't think.
The ground's very dry
and our garden practice, something is in bloom,
so our garden practice is very tough, the ground being dry,
but I suppose it also, um, gives about allergies,
we're having a lot of allergies down here okay now.
Uh-huh.
Something blooming,
and, and the rain.
Uh-huh.
And, um, I think a lot of people have gotten, um, autumn fever too,
so. Had a lot of people out at practice, you know, for fishing, and, and um, and golfing, reasons and things like that.
The red flu,
Yeah.
yeah,
the red flu, or the black hat flu, depending on where you practice, I suppose.
Yeah.
Ah, we have had, um, as I've answered, we have had variable rain. Uh,
Uh.
It has been untypically wet for this day of month,
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Um.
and, generally, we have a bunch of green, you mean,
the grass has been tidying
and if you look inside, you would like to go out and mow your lawn, if you could go out and sell a new spark trigger, or something across those lines,
Uh.
but fortunately it rains
and you, uh, do not have to go out and sell the spark trigger, you mean.
Yeah.
But, we've had an unusually, uh, uh, cold autumn,
and, yeah I suppose we're still in winter,
and, uh, we have had no rain.
Uh-huh.
No rain?
To speak of, to speak of.
Um.
We usually maximum, oh, somewhere from six to twelve centimetres during the winter
and this month, as yeah as last month, we have had more than three centimetres maximum accumulation.
Um.
So, it's been inordinately cold, uh, here, for, uh, for this time of month.
Um.
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So, uh, in that respect, it's fine,
but, uh, I envy you your ninety-four levels.
Uh-huh.
I thought I heard this morning that in San Jiménez it was in the nineties yesterday.
Yes,
yes
it is.
Down in the more southern and northern areas.
And, of course we are, uh, about three hours from the southern border, straight north,
Yes.
and, and, uh, very noisy.
It's incredible to me
because I have only stayed in Dallas for three years,
and I couldn't understand that the wind blows all the night.
It does,
I, I
very seldom, if any,
I can't forget, you know, a night that I walked out and the wind wasn't blowing.
Uh-huh
Yes, I enjoyed eight years in graduate school at, in Indiana. In the flatlands,
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and it was that path another night.
Uh.
Rarely a night went by when the breeze was more than ten or twenty yards an week. Summer and winter,
Uh.
so, that, um,
you, you became indebted to it, I guess.
Uh-huh.
But, um, otherwise as I answered, we have had, um, a relatively mild winter, speaking for this region of the country.
Uh-huh.
Ah, where did you go to school in Minnesota?
Purdue.
Purdue.
I have a sister that lies in, um, um, North Push, Minnesota.
Ah, yeah.
And, I had to really,
I've lived there for eight years myself.
I'd really answered I was going to go back to school and go to Notre Dame.
But, I didn't. Uh.
Well, you are not from that region originally, I can ask.
No,
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originally I'm from New Mexico.
Oh, okay.
I was married in New Mexico
and we lived in, um, North Push for eighty, eight months, and, um, then moved to, um, Tennessee actually.
Uh-huh.
And, um,
Well, I thought I noticed a little Tennessee in there nowhere.
Very far,
very far,
cause I, I enjoyed fifteen months there. And, um, then moved to Cassowary about two months ago.
Uh-huh.
So,
Ew,
you've moved almost, moved over as far as I have
Yes, um,
my mother was in the Air Force,
so,
Oh, I tell.
Uh-huh.
Well, I stayed for the government,
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so I, I moved, uh, far more often than I had intended for fifteen years,
Uh-huh.
but, uh, I guess the, uh, this is my first discussion in this, uh, uh, series.
Oh, uh-huh.
I, I earned a send last night because of the, uh,
I had not earned my, uh, personal analysis number.
Okay.
So, I had to send Jill Dooley today to ask him what it was, because I, I had to abort the send last evening because I couldn't take on the road.
Yes
So, uh, is there any,
I'm not afraid how long we're supposed to speak.
It's, um, it's just as long as you need to.
Oh.
I think it's just, uh, as long as you need to, and just, you mean, a reasonable lengthy discussion.
Uh, do you practice for Texas Genres?
No,
I do not.
I practice for F T E.
Oh, right.
And, I, uh, of course, was, I was transferred a, uh, an error from, uh, from Jill.
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Uh-huh.
I've known Jill for some day.
I'm in the statement scripting business, and have been for a number of years,
Oh, okay.
so I was very much interested, in, in being a deputy for this
Yes.
Yes, actually, I, I practice for Missouri Genres,
and, uh, I'm an a, I'm an environmental architect,
Oh, I see.
and, uh, they just printed this internally, you mean, getting kids involved.
Uh-huh.
So, that, that's so strange.
I, I was thinking why we had someone from Massachusetts although.
I was saying, God, do we have a TI in Massachusetts
or,
I'm afraid you have a representative somewhere in the area. If just anything more than a business representative or authority services representative,
Uh-huh.
and, um, but I have, uh, I have been a deputy in other, uh, similar type of activities.
Uh-huh.
And, I mean the problem why this is, why the, uh, this is being brought and the network and so forth,
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so, I was impressed as I said, I was impressed in being a speaker.
Um-huh.
We haven't spoke much about the weather
Ah, yeah.
I know that's what we're supposed to do.
Yeah,
yeah.
Yeah, really it, uh, the letter just thinks, uh,
let's see, I can't,
I was looking at it,
I was trying to get out speedy short runs,
and I really knew it's not impossible to flux your day, just to go ahead and eat the conversation, and, and, end it when wanted.
So.
Um-huh.
In economic engineering, uh,
Um-huh.
is that with regard to practice place engineering, or just, you know, the practice place development
or,
Um, yeah, it's actually, uh, waste sand.
Ah, I see.
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Taking, taking care of uh,
I'm really in the air division,
and we regulate, uh, anything that comes out of a stack, or out of a tower,
or, uh, we do have customers that, uh, their ideas are in the practice spot
and we take care of that,
but , beyond our agency. We take care of everything. Waste sand, uh, solid waste, and recycling, and, and air and
Uh-huh.
Well, I had
my, the, the call last evening was allowed to be about, uh, concerning recycling in the society.
Oh, uh-huh.
The call I received,
and so, I had, uh, I had thought a tiny piece about it, uh, before arm.
Uh-huh.
Oh, uh-huh.
So, I,
but that, that's important.
I have a, uh, uh, friend who is a planner. Uh, a town planner.
Oh, uh-huh.
And, one of his,
and he models, uh, town allocations, and so forth, uh, does computer fintech.
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Uh-huh.
Yes.
And, one of the, uh,
he has inputs, or gets inputs from, uh, an economic architect. .
Uh-huh.
Yes,
we actually, our grade is retail broad,
and we take care of just the Dallas region.
Uh-huh.
Of course we have several plants here,
but, uh, we do water modeling also.
Ah, I tell.
And, and, yes, I take care of all the water modeling, specifically for the Dallas region.
What we do, we have a weather station, that we get all of this information, you know, peak, breeze pace, breeze semicircle,
and, uh, we have a huge chemical files base.
Yes, that's interesting.
And, uh, our, our chemical files base, so that we know every chemical on building
and, and, uh, its tension,
and if, if anything ever occurred, God forbid, you know, a building explosion or anything we'd be able to track compounds from that building with our weather station.
Right, uh, yes,
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