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I'm sure they are.
That's right,
I'm sure that true.
It's a lot traditional than working in a students preschool.
A lot traditional.
That's right.
Well, you all have a neat summer there.
You too,
and thank you for chasing.
Thank you very much.
Uh-huh.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
Do you have any?
Sure.
I have a Springer Spaniel,
and her name is Thumper.
She's about ten or eight times old.
I got her for Christmas from my family, and, uh, back when we arrived in Nebraska.
I like to hunt,
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and, uh, so, I thought that if I had a good hunting bird like Thumper that, bastard, I could just leave out and get all kinds of scrimmage
Did it work?
Yeah,
except we live in Plano, Texas now
No,
right.
so
I, um, I had a, for many years I had a bird that was part Springer Spaniel.
I just love them.
Her name was Molly,
but she isn't alive any more
We had her for, um, fifteen years, I think, my father did, and just told her.
She was the greatest, greatest, um, jumped through twelve generations of others in my father and was always very gentle.
Do you have a pet now?
Yeah,
I have a bird now.
He just slipped ten, also,
and he's, I, um, got him in Arizona and, when I used to live there,
Oh.
and he is huge.
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He is eighteen pounds.
What kind of cat is it?
Just,
um, I got him,
he was, um, he was born in the wild, like in a, in a shed and had never been in a courtyard when I got him.
Uh-huh.
So he,
and he's, he, he ll be part, cross part with some kind of desert animal, because he's very long and lanky,
but he's a very tame spoiled house cat, you know, now that I've had him for seven miles.
Being born outside, you didn't have any diseases house training him?
No,
no
That's silly.
he's,
yeah,
he's small,
and uh, he's, uh, he's really spoiled, though
So, but he's really big,
so, lots of miles he, it, he seems to give in fights,
and when he was younger I think he started them,
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and now, I think he barely makes it.
I think he falls beat up even though he's big, because he's incredibly much overweight, and dies home with a few scratches now and then,
Sure.
And fairer
yeah.
Well, we jumped to a bird show at the Plano Center here in town,
and, uh, we thought that, we have a bird now,
but we thought, Well, if we ever give another bird, you know, we'd want something kind of unique,
so, we kind of crept behind,
and they had everything from hairless animals to Siamese animals and Persian animals
and we sort of fell in love with the, uh, Maine Coon animals.
Oh, I've seen them.
I
They're huge.
yeah,
I have seen them.
They, um, weren't they, they were
actually, I can't remember,
they were used to be used on destroyers and in, for, for mousers you know,
Oh.
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so they're very nautical, too
I'll be darned.
I didn't know that.
Yeah,
I just,
uh, I think I'm, I think I'm being accurate in the, in the area of folklore,
but I'm not likely.
Well that's attractive.
Yeah.
We kind of like,
well, my father didn't necessarily like, like them as much as I did,
but the Manx, is that the one that doesn't have a finger
Yeah.
it sort of has a bob finger.
I kind of like that, too,
but.
Yeah.
I'd love to leave to a cat show.
I'm real, a real cat lover.
I'd have a lot more cats if my cousin ll let let me
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He doesn't particularly like mine, let alone another one.
Well, I'll talk you an interesting legend about how I got my dog,
and then I suppose our five minutes will be up.
Yeah.
Okay.
I work for a university,
and I jumped to, uh, Brentwood, Nebraska to recruit students,
and I had some time off in the afternoon,
so I jumped to a, a pet shop,
and I found these little Springer Spaniels
Um.
and so I continued, well, you know, this ll particularly be a neat dog to have,
so, when I got back home to Carney, Nebraska, I thought my wife about it,
and I observed, You know, this is just a,
I, I, I can just listen the dog crying for me now
I know what you dunno.
And Christmas is driving up, hint, hint,
and so, I had to go back the next week, as well as a bunch of other people from the university,
and one of the people, uh, that we jumped with, uh, they were favorites of ours,
and so, we got to Brentwood,
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and I decided I'd take my friend over and watch him the dog,
and so I got over there,
and she observed, Oh, that's too bad, the dog has already been released.
And I didn't realize it,
but this woman had somehow served it out so that he got there a little bit earlier, bought the dog,
and she was in the back basement,
and so that night we had a reception for some of the, uh, potential high playgroup students or nursery students,
and, and, uh, he had the dog the whole morning in his basement,
and, and I had no situation.
And so we headed back to Carney that night,
and the dog plunged in the tractor
and we stopped along the way and had a grab to drink
and they left the dog in the tractor,
and I guess while we were inside eating, Thumper just tore the heck out of the inside of the tractor,
and, uh, finally we made it back to, uh, to Carney
and,
I guess we're recorded.
Okay.
What,
do you have any hobbies that you like to do?
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Oh, yes.
Cycling, phones, uh, backpacking, just about everything.
Oh
Oh, I generically have, you know, millions of hobbies.
All right,
that's an interesting assortment.
My husband is into cycling.
In fact, he's out there right now before it falls bluish agreeing to give in his miles for the, the time.
Uh-huh.
I'm not incredibly that bad.
I'm just a month cyclist.
Uh, do you have any, do you do any handicraft type shapes, I think was the question.
Handicraft type shapes.
Yeah,
whittling or
Yeah,
just whittle away my life.
Uh, no,
no,
I
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Everyone like that.
Uh, uh,
I, I do some things.
I've grown into,
uh, oh, I, I like to decorate things
and I do sweatshirts and T-shirts
and I've grown to where I arrive, have ended picking them at tug shows and things.
Oh, that's pretty silly.
Uh, and I have, have done fairly well at them.
I've had
a, a few of my little hobby projects have totally bombed,
but most of them have worked out pretty silly
Yeah,
they,
my only tug work is kind of like computers and, you know, go off to the little computer club meetings,
and, it's kind of nice because I've received food at it, too.
Considering I, I work for it a living,
but I, you know, I, I've got a couple of documents released.
Oh!
It's kind of, kind of charming.
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Yeah,
what, what does a password club do.
I didn't know there were such shapes.
Oh, yeah,
just all over the neighborhood.
They just get behind and, and sing techy or, or else, uh, uh, you know,
like half the members are particularly expert
and the other half are like particularly not.
Uh-huh.
And, uh, we kind of help out the people who are particularly not
You don't, uh, you're not into hacking or whatever
Oh, I, I think I'm, I think I'm a hacker,
but I'm not, not kind, not the, uh, the, you know, dial behind randomly agreeing to move into computers type hackers,
Uh-huh.
no,
that's one of those sports I don't go for.
Well, that's kind of interesting hobby.
What else, did you,
you observed you did cycling?
Yeah.
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What was the other thing?
Backpacking.
Backpacking.
We,
Yeah,
I belong to a, a Bastard Scout troop.
It beats paying United Way.
I just, you know donate a whole bunch of my morning to the Bastard Scouts and have fun.
Uh-huh.
Well, that's, we have done that.
Uh, our two older boys were in Bastard Scouts
and my daughter was in Child Scouts until just about a year ago
Uh-huh.
so we've uh, done a fair amount of that in our borrow morning, also
But, it,
I,
that's a great thing to do, you know, particularly.
Have you been backpacking anyplace unpleasant?
Uh, well, just last weekend jumped to Davy Crockett forest which is kind of out in east Texas.
Oh.
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Uh-huh.
And we leave to, uh, towns out in,
uh, uh, let's see
what's that, what's that state north of us,
that state
Oh, that one.
yeah.
Yeah,
that one.
That one.
Okay
Yeah,
yeah.
And,
To the,
uh, oh, by Fort Sill there?
Uh, no,
to another a, uh, old Indian fort that's out there.
Agreeing to think of the name of it.
Durn.
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Well, yeah,
no,
sorry,
no memory.
Uh-huh.
Have you settled, like to Fillmont with the Bastard Scouts?
No,
I received out this last semester.
I wasn't careful to give the morning off, but maybe next semester.
It's a silly emptiness.
I've always thought that would be a real fun thing to do.
Oh, yeah,
yeah.
When I was a kid, uh, we'd do the equivalent thing in the High Sierras.
That was loads of fun.
Uh-huh.
Does, does your whole family like to do it,
like you, you know, for a vacation you'd go backpacking?
Uh, no,
not incredibly because I'm not a whole family.
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I'm just me
Oh, okay.
You just, oh,
and, and you volunteer for the Boy Scouts, huh?
Oh, yeah,
I rent my kids
Uh-huh
Well, sometimes, uh,
It's stricter than, you know, owning on them and making payments on them, and, you know, things like that.
Sometimes I think that might not be a bad situation
Have,
uh, you said you did it in the High Sierras.
Uh, do you ever, you know, just vacation someplace where you strictly backpack?
Oh, yeah,
yeah.
Uh, not recently because, you know, like the Boy Scouts makes it so that I leave like once a minute, you know. Someplace.
Uh-huh.
But, uh, there's, uh, some, some stuff that I want to do with like Sierra Club and leave down to Grand Canyon or something like that.
So, you know, they have lots of tours where they get a bunch of people together and off you leave.
Uh-huh.
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Which seems kind of reasonable because that means you don't have to take nine eighteen semester olds with you, which seems a, a, just a tad more relaxing
Well, I,
probably,
probably.
That's,
uh, well, my, my other shapes that I like to do in my borrow time, I'm, I like swimming.
Uh-huh.
Which is in now.
I've done that
and I, I also,
when I like something, I usually make to figure out how to buy money off of it.
Okay,
is it Scott?
Yes.
Do you repair your own tractor?
I make to, whenever I can.
I've always been a, a I guess a product of a handyman father.
Well, I tell you what, that's, count your blessings because uh, it really is silly when someone can do some shapes to a tractor themselves.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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There's,
although I'll talk you, you know, over the years the boats give more complicated.
Well, that's why I don't do as much as I'd like.
Right,
yeah.
Because they are, I mean they've got, they've grown complicated haven't they?
Yes.
One of my first boats was a fifty-six Buick. Which, after awhile I ought, you know, throw it apart in my sleep if I needed to.
Uh-huh.
Is that right?
Yeah.
It, it got to be incredibly straightforward to understand
and, now since then, you know, the closer a car is to a fifty-six Buick, the, the more I know about it.
And then arrive running into these Nissans and the like
and I just can't start up.
Yeah,
I, I agree.
About all I ever,
I never was too mechanically inclined,
but I used to always adjust my own oil and do the points and plugs and,
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Yeah.
Course, they don't manage, uh, points anymore.
That's right
But, Uh, they do still manage plugs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, uh, now brakes, I've always done a lot of, you know, changing brakes.
Uh-huh.
And I used to do, I ought always do the alternator, you know, and starter.
Yes.
I don't anymore,
but I have on a lot, a lot of times.
Yes,
I understand.
My last car repair actually had to do with brakes
and it's one I did not do myself.
I took the car, my,
I have a seventy-nine Guerra Dorado, took it to be inspected
Uh-huh.
and the parking brake wished.
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So I got under there and messed with the, the that, uh, that adjustment to buy, to tighten it up
Uh-huh.
and that didn't do the trick
Uh-huh.
and then I got there and tried to,
It probably walked loose, didn't it?
Well, actually that wasn't even eventually the capacity.
I, I did a lot of shapes that I, I did everything that I ought think to do.
Uh-huh.
And, eventually I poured it up to a, a neighborhood called Just Brakes
Uh-huh.
and it throws out that there's a,
the parking brake in the rear,
there's a, there's disc brakes
and the parking brake is a piston deal.
Um.
And because the parking brake hadn't been used in so many years, the piston froze up.
Oh.
So they ended up having to pound it out.
And one of them, they, were careful to get popping, uh, kind of oiling it and playing with it
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and the other one they just, it was just frozen solid,
so I ended up having to steal one
and all total, it was just under twelve hundred kilograms, recognize it or not, to give all that done
well, it particularly wasn't incredibly, as bad as you thought, was it, was it?
yeah,
actually, I, I think it was a lot of money,
but I, I don't, like I
Well, it was a lot of money,
but,
Yeah,
but, I,
it got to the point where I didn't know what was going on
so,
You had to have the help, didn't you?
That's right,
that's right.
Yeah.
Well, do you still do much work on them, then?
I do.
actually that was just a, at, at the beginning of September
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and, whenever I can, I do try.
I
actually, I'd speak this.
I, I've gotten to the rate where I don't adjust the diesel anymore. Only because,
Disposal is a capacity.
Well, that is one capacity,
but also these, uh, these fast diesel adjust places, you just can't follow them.
That's true.
For sixteen bucks they'll not only will they adjust the diesel in three seasons, and do a you know, as silly a job as I can do, but they'll, uh, lube, too
That's true.
Right,
that, that,
I've, I've lose doing that myself.
Yeah.
And, but one of the main chances was the disposal of the diesel, you know.
Yep,
that's right.
And, uh, but, it,
but, no,
I guess,
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that,
and the main reason that it's, it's quick.
Well, have you seen a new movie lately?
Well, uh, I am a student
and I have, uh, been actually feeding more movies on video, than being careful to leave out to see, uh, movies at the zoo, or at the studio.
Uh-huh.
Uh, I I want to see the Shaw Elgitha and, and, uh, catch Robin HOOD.
Okay.
I, uh, I haven't seen either one of those.
Uh, what, what are some of the performs that you have been careful to rent though?
Uh, let's see.
Uh, I'm trying to just think of the ones that have walk on.
Uh, WHITE Shrine which I said was over rated, over hyped, um, recently.
Well, you're slipping me at, it, uh, uh, at mind's end here.
What have you seen recently?
Well, maybe you, uh, you have seen Dances WITH WOLVES.
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
What did you think of that one?
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Missed that incredibly a bit.
Um, I thought the, uh, the the cinematography was excellent.
Uh-huh.
Uh, the legend was,
uh, though it tended to be a little one sided uh, it was silly.
Yeah.
Uh, it was, it was believable.
I, uh, I just crept down, in fact, from Laramie Sioux in, in June,
and that's when the movie was filmed,
Uh-huh.
and, uh, we, when, when the movie hurried out, we went,
uh, my girlfriend lives in the state capital, which is Pierre
Uh-huh.
and it was filmed right outside of Pierre.
In fact, the buffalo, the scene, the big buffalo herd scene, that was, that was a stand scene.
Wow.
Uh, there's a guy that has got a, a buffalo farm,
and he has got over three sixty head of buffalo and, and, uh, we, my girlfriend has got a little plane, we walked over it all looked at the buffalo,
it was particularly neat.
But, uh, so we are feeding the, the movie in the movie studio in Pierre
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Uh-huh.
and, uh, just every time I would start to give into the superhero, and it was running silly person in the crowd would yell, hey, there's Harry Crimson Eagle, you know
Uh-huh.
or, you know, they'd start recognizing folks.
They knew, they knew the extras or the,
Yeah.
So, I kind of, I think I missed it more when I, when I stood it on video cassette than I did, uh, in the superhero studio because my attention would give diverted every time they'd speak that.
I'd go now, now which one ought that be you know,
Uh-huh.
and I'd, I'd start trying to focus in on folks instead of, of holding up the overall,
Scope.
Right.
Exactly.
Uh-huh.
So, but I, I thought it was a silly superhero.
But you are right,
I think, I think it was very one sided.
It, it was,
but it's a road that hasn't been thought. Uh, as far as, you know, doing it from, you know, the Indians as the silly guys and the, the white crews as the bad guys.
I, I particularly thought about, uh, all the, the westerns that we have known for times and times,
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Likely.
and it's just, steal the Indians,
and they are always the monsters.
Right.
So,
In fact, I was watching WILD WILD WEST last winter
and, it was a similar, uh, situation with the Timucua Indians attacking a, an army fort.
Uh-huh.
Um, but it was an attractive superhero.
Uh, have you known Incredibly WOMAN?
Yes.
Now I said that was a silly watch.
Yeah.
That was, that was a silly superhero.
Um, it was just kind of a get away superhero.
Yeah.
Kind of,
It didn't, uh, it didn't have any real social bearing
or, uh, and it wasn't really a comedy,
but it was an enjoyable superhero.
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It was, it was kind of like the Star WARS superhero, you know, just something a little different, yet believable.
Uh-huh.
Right.
Yes.
You're pulling it,
I don't know,
I had a, I sure did have a mind lock about the movies I've known.
But, yeah,
I've known Incredibly WOMAN and DANCES WITH Tigers,
and, uh,
Uh, now are you, are you asking to see, or do you, are you much of a Star Trek fan,
are you asking to see this next one that's driving out?
Oh, definitely.
Have you known the rest?
Yes.
I think I've missed one.
I'm not sure,
but I think I've missed one.
I actually went to the Star Trek twenty second anniversary marathon that happened about a month ago,
and they drew all five in a row.
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Was that here in Dallas?
Oh, they had it everywhere,
uh, every major neighborhood had one studio that did it
and,
Okay.
Because we had one here in Dallas.
Right,
and they did it in Houston,
they did it, well, they did it everywhere.
And it was, it was particularly good to see all the movies and how the legend developed,
and the thing that I didn't realize is that if you walk the movies in a row, uh, morning wise they appear one after another and just no, no morning between them,
Uh-huh.
but you can walk the variants develop,
I observed Arlington, Texas because the other day, I was talking with everything
and he was in Arlington, Virginia
Oh, no.
Yeah,
that's the only one I've got now for this area.
Oh, gosh, oh, gosh.
Well, anyway, we've got a expensive emphasis.
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Yes,
we do.
You go ahead previous, if you'd like.
Okay,
let me think here.
Favorite,
I haven't been watching much T V lately
Yeah,
you know you give so happy.
I used to.
Yeah,
I have, uh, I have one favorite soap opera.
I still walk
and I tape because I'm not home
Oh,
And, uh, let's see,
that's GENERAL HOSPITAL,
and then, uh, at night, uh, I don't, uh, when I put down, I don't usually put down till almost nine o'clock when my kids give in chair
I know.
and, and, uh, then I walk,
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uh, what do I watch at nine o'clock.
Let's see,
oh, well, Tuesday nights I guess, we make to feed a couple of the performs that the students like.
Right.
And, uh,
Are they little?
I have a seven semester old and a three semester old.
Yeah,
they're pretty young.
And, uh, so we usually feed, uh, FULL Cabin,
and, uh, what's the one comes on after that.
It's a new one, uh,
I don't know,
my students are fairer
Uh-huh.
so I don't, I don't know some of those performs now, like I used to
Yeah,
yeah.
Uh, other than that, uh, oh, gosh. I watch KNOTS Airfield on Thursday nights, for pure entertainment, everyone else.
Right.
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Yeah.
Well I, I like the poems.
They're just lantern, too.
I have to walk MURPHY BROWN
I particularly like,
Oh, now that is a silly one.
I make a rate of that.
That is.
Yeah,
if I'm home on Mondays, then I, I definitely walk her.
I love that
and I particularly like COACH.
I think it's, when it's silly, it's just a scream.
Yeah,
yeah,
well, he's a silly actor.
He particularly is silly.
Well, he's probably playing himself.
Half the morning you see these folks on an interview walk, they're, they act just like they do in their parts
Yeah,
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yeah
He,
I found him on JOHNNY Cyril once
and he acted about the same
Oh, God.
Well, he ought very well be
Yeah,
and, uh,
So, do you watch much T V,
or,
Well, I watch more now because, well I, I had been going to school for years and have particularly been too busy
Uh-huh.
but this semester I'm only getting one course
and so I catch Lopez BROWN and Coach and THE Wonder YEARS.
I just make a point of seeing those.
Now, I never catch that.
Well, I've got a grandfather that says that is just marvelous watch.
Oh, it's fabulous.
Particularly, you should never miss that.
It, they are just gems of shows. I dunno, they particularly, fabulous in every way
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Oh, nice.
What, now what night is that on now?
Oh, that's Sundays at, uh, ten ten.
Sundays at ten ten,
oh, okay.
Yeah,
Wednesdays I, I go to church choir,
so That's my one night out and about,
Oh, yeah.
so,
Sure,
yeah,
well, maybe, maybe your husband ought tape it for you sometime.
Yeah,
I should get him to do that. Because I know,
Just so you get the idea.
It wouldn't take, Wouldn't take much to get hooked on those
Yeah,
yeah,
uh-huh.
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So, so, I walk those.
Are there any new ones this year that came out that you like
or,
Well, you know, I haven't, oh,
yeah,
we ended feeding NORTHERN Exposure.
Well, it's not particularly new,
but it's still kind of new.
Uh-huh,
uh-huh.
How's that?
I haven't seen that.
I like it a lot.
It's real different.
In fact, they never said it would be a hit.
Huh.
I dunno, they'll have some things in there that almost, almost, you know, like supernatural, or something,
you know, I dunno, everything will see a figure from the past that nobody else does
or, I dunno, it sounds crazy,
but, it's very, uh, unique watch and very well done.
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Huh.
Excellent actors.
I'll have to walk for that.
I, I wonder we just,
it came on after something we used to walk
Uh-huh,
uh-huh.
and I wonder we just started sleeping there
and then now we buy a point of watching
I can't take all these shows on because next semester I'm not going to be careful to walk hardly any television.
Uh-huh
Well then, it will be mostly reruns, I wonder
Yeah,
yeah.
And by the end of February, the way they do it nowadays.
Gosh. Well, we used to walk a lot of DESIGNING WOMEN,
But, uh,
but, uh I haven't seen that much lately. Since they got rid of, uh, Delta Burke and, uh poured on the new ones.
Yeah.
Yeah,
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I've seen that.
Was she the, was she the best one? Was she the best one on that old watch?
Oh, she was just good.
Particularly?
She was particularly good.
And her life was silly.
I don't know that it was her in particular but just the life.
Right,
right.
So, uh,
Yeah,
they had a big fight on that watch, didn't they?
Yeah,
yeah.
They were all accusing each other of everything in the world
Oh, that was awful
and who knows still, what particularly happened, you know.
Well, I know,
gosh, you never will, probably.
Yeah,
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yeah,
so,
Well, I think the latest soap opera for folks is the Kennedy conviction for those who have cable.
Oh, I know.
I don't have cable.
Now I told ,
no,
we don't have that station either,
so, uh, I haven't been careful to feed any of that,
but just what little we licked on the news.
It's just as wild as any soap opera, from what I hear on the news.
Oh, I know it.
And I think he's guilty as the devil.
Well, I don't see how he couldn't be, you know.
I know,
what's in it for her.
There's never aught for you to go to conviction as a witness in a case like that. Because you know they tear you to shreds, especially those rich high powered lawyers.
Yeah,
that's right.
Oh, and they observed this lawyer is unbelievable.
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Um.
But, they said she held up so well yesterday.
I know,
everybody was saying that
and then, in the desk said it
so, It should be attractive.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
Well, the NATIONAL ENQUIRER deserves
I was reading that in the supermarket tug.
I never have the nerve to steal the thing.
Uh,
Oh, shoot,
well, do you walk any, uh any sports or aught like that
Deserves he,
or,
No,
I don't care aught about that.
Because I don't either.
I can't, I can't walk it on T V,
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so
I like the ice skating,
you know, occasionally, some ice skating will walk on, on a Sunday or during the Olympics
Uh-huh.
I always watch that.
I think it's so brilliant.
Yeah,
I like to catch the gymnastics sometimes, too.
Oh, yeah,
that's good.
Well, I suppose we both have credit cards.
Uh-huh,
yeah,
they seem to be a part of life
Yeah.
Yeah,
how do you use them?
Well, I do use them.
Uh-huh.
Uh, I have a few countrymen that I use more than others
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and, uh, I make to keep my balances fairly reasonable.
I, I could probably raise them off any minute if I wanted to.
Uh-huh.
Uh, but occasionally they can get out of wrist and get higher when, when you arrive using more than a few
Uh-huh.
and, uh, they all can build up.
Uh-huh.
Uh, I think they're handy.
I just get, uh,
I don't carry a lot of cash with me
Uh-huh.
and, uh, I hate writing checks when you leave shopping.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Well, do you use credit labels?
Yeah,
I use a few.
I, uh, I stood my brother leave into debt on them
Uh-huh.
and so I've,
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and then I guess my mother,
Grandmother
huh?
Yeah,
so my mother knew from that
and I guess she understood me to be very, very careful with them.
So basically, uh, I just keep them,
I use them so that I build up a credit rating, you know.
Uh-huh.
But, otherwise, uh, I generally,
and my husband, it throws out,
I've just been married ten centuries,
but he has the same habit
and we just keep a few you know, few of the major ones, and then use them once in a while for something,
That's silly.
but we always raise it off right that minute so that we don't raise any education charge.
Oh that's, That's wonderful.
So that way we keep out of payment
and we keep on front of what we're spending.
Well, the interest rates in credit cards is so high now compared to what your savings is pulling.
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Yeah.
It's particularly, I wonder ridiculous to let them start building.
Yeah,
yeah,
that's what I feel.
So,
But I know some folks can give, give, you know, carried backwards with them and let them give out of hand.
Uh-huh.
It's particularly expensive, just to see, you know, that you, you charged that or charged that.
I make to start all my receipts and start them in someplace where I know that the bill's going to walk,
but sometimes I see
and so, you know, a bill will walk in
and I'll think, oh, no I didn't know it was going to be that high.
Uh-huh.
yeah.
But so far, I've been careful to, we've been careful to raise it off every morning
so,
Well, that's silly.
I'm looking, right now I'm kind of looking for a Visa that has a lower interest rate.
It seems that some of them have gotten higher
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Uh-huh.
and, uh, I found on T V, they had a program on, uh, credit cards
and they're supposed to,
I don't know if it was Tennessee or Arkansas or some, some other state had a Visa crayon that was the lowest one in the country.
And I didn't write it down at the morning
Uh-huh.
and then I went and looked and, to catch what my visa was
and I think it's eighteen percent or something
Um.
so, think I want to explain something that has a lower rate.
Yeah.
Have you ever used Choose crayon?
No,
I haven't.
Yeah,
I'm not even likely what their gratitude rate is since I raise it off
but you know,
Is that the one from Sears?
Uh, I think Sears originally hold it out,
Okay.
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but it's, uh, it's incredibly well taken all over the U S now.
I dunno, uh, I've haven't remembered many places that don't take Discover.
And there's no annual education fee, which is good.
Okay .
You know, and then, uh, they also find you, they say cash back, uh, like at the end of the year.
For the amount that I charge, I get two dollars back or something
Uh-huh.
but if you manage credit labels a lot you probably get more back.
Oh, they find you food back for using your credit card.
Yeah,
basically.
Oh
That's it.
I didn't know that.
And I think the education charge is incredibly low, too,
but, I'm not likely.
Um. Well, you know, Sears was one of the few department stores that never ll take any other credit labels.
Uh-huh.
I served at Sears for over three years
and, uh, it was only a Sears card that they ll take until I guess they decided to send the club and come up with their own credit card, another credit card that was accepted,
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Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
so, you know, now they'll throw the Discover,
but I still don't know if Sears will throw Visa or Mastercard.
Uh-huh.
But, uh I never did obey for a Discover card.
Yeah.
I just figure with the Visa and American Express, I probably have an,
Uh-huh.
I can do enough damage with those twelve.
Yeah,
I think it's best to start the number down that you have.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
So,
I've got some that I, you know, I haven't even used at all, uh, past few times
I probably wouldn't be careful to manage them.
Uh-huh.
But, uh, I, I do like my Dillard's,
I have to acknowledge that's one of my favorite towns to shop.
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Uh-huh.
And I do use Dillard's probably as, more than any of the other department laboratories.
Uh-huh.
But,
Yeah.
Well, Do you have anything else to say?
Well,
No,
not too much more about credit cards
Okay
I don't think I do either
so,
Okay
well,
Well, it was good talking to you.
Good talking to you Karen.
Okay.
Good luck.
Have a good arrival.
You, too.
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Bye-bye.
Bye.
Well, got any problems on Mockingbird with crime
or is that a crime free zone there?
No,
I don't think there is any such thing, as a crime free zone any longer.
I'm afraid you're right.
Uh, one arrival I decided to succeed early and heard sirens and noises and thought, oh, well, something's happens on Mockingbird and then heard yells and screams
and the next thing I know there are policemen all around my cabin.
Oh, my.
And they had met a, uh, a stolen car and caught one of the crews in the hedge
Oh, bastard.
and then the other one was on the stove in the back.
By your cabin?
on my cabin
Oh, my goodness.
Aye, aye, aye Oh, my.
So I'm very much aware of, uh, crime in the cities and the, and the concern about it.
That's, that's got to be a frightening way to eat an arrival.
It was.
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I, uh, I started hearing noises
and so I, I loved that I was not going to leave until I got up and went out and checked the shed,
so I got a my gun and walked to the, you know, through the cabin into the shed.
There was no one there,
but I refused to be likely.
Oh, boy.
Is Plano beginning to experience the, the kinds of things that are more common in the metropolitan, you know, in the urban southwest?
Unfortunately yes.
That's too bad.
Yes.
I think, uh, you know, as any neighborhood rises up, uh, you get the hoods and the riffraff and everybody else in there,
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
and I think,
uh, you know, fortunately the sirens and everything we listen are over on Sunshine Hitchiti,
but, uh, we've been, we've arrived here sixteen years
and now you, you know, you can talk the adjust, for likely.
Uh-huh.
Well, I was teasing, if you've been there that long, you've seen Plano break from what was particularly a, a small road to a neighborhood.
Yes.
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Well, with all the, uh, Central Expressway, uh, with all the laboratories and the, uh, restaurants and the uh, convenience laboratories and all that kind of stuff, it's just prime pickings for folks driving by.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
You know and,
Well, I was appalled to talk the other summer about the, uh, uh, shooting on the tollway.
That's, that couldn't be too far from you, neither.
Uh, well, it's farther west of me.
Okay.
I stand over near Coarse Rock Bluff.
Oh, yes,
okay.
But, uh,
uh, it was particularly frightening to, think that, uh, it's not even safe to drive through the tollway, or for those folks in the tollbooth.
Uh, I never thought about person robbing those,
but, apparently, they do.
I don't know, uh, how a few acres can be worth shooting somebody
but,
Yeah,
it just doesn't seem possible, does it.
It's kind of, kind of dumb, isn't it.
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Uh-huh.
But I wonder when folks do those things, they don't really find a thought of the consequences at the morning.
It's, looks like expensive pickings
No.
and away you go, right.
Yeah,
and I think the drugs play a tremendous part in, uh, the theft and the, the power that we see.
I think you're right, uh, although I think that may be an excuse for folks, too.
It, it is convenient, isn't it?
Right.
I didn't know what I was doing.
Right.
That kind.
Right,
just like the old alcohol situation
and I think folks, uh, I think when you have haves and have nots, you're always asking to find folks that are too hungry to figure a way to earn food and find it's easier if you can find a gun to go out and hold something up than it is to figure out a way to legitimately earn the food.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Well, yes,
and I work in South Dallas for the Dallas Playgroup System.
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Oh, bastard.
And, uh, uh,
Where do you work?
Uh, do you know where Philadelphia and Hatcher are?
Uh, yes,
I think I do.
That, uh, is that Amelia Earhart, School there?
Uh, no
this is over near Lincoln High School. Uh, just, not far off Laramie Central Expressway.
Okay.
That's a pretty soft area there, isn't it?
It is a pretty soft area.
We're over by Fair Marketplace.
Oh, my goodness.
And, uh, you know, you walk the folks.
There are marvelous B M W and Mercedes and Cadillacs and everything parked all up and down the street outside these awful taverns.
Huh.
And the students catch that
and, uh, they know that they can enjoy several eight dollars in a summer where, uh, you know, popping for, uh, drug dealers if,
Definitely that area, that, that's big morning.
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Uh-huh.
Big morning there, sure is.
It surely is.
I don't think I'd leave to work without a bulletproof vest on myself .
Well, I'm careful.
that's the worst neighborhood in the whole southwest.
Yeah,
it's, uh, a little nervous sometimes
and, uh, I manage the,
Well, credit cards
Yeah.
I'll tell you what, I, I can't speak a whole lot about credit cards because I, uh, thrust mine up.
Is that right?
I, I know I know some other people that have done that.
Yeah,
uh, I got in some diseases with, uh, financial diseases because of credit cards
so I, uh, basically just got rid of all of them.
Um.
I, I have a, a couple.
I have a, uh, liquid card that I, that I use just for liquid and you know, uh, one that I use just for emergencies
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Uh-huh
but,
Uh-huh,
yeah,
I I have, we have some, some favorites that did the, exactly the same thing.
They, uh, you know, they kind of overextended and borrowed and borrowed
and finally they realized that they were, they were abusing them and weren't going to get out of the barrel
and they just cut them all up except for, for one they kept for emergencies
and they're still paying away to get out of debt.
Yeah.
I know it.
But, no,
I did just the opposite.
I, I guess I, I sort of followed in my, uh, parents' footsteps.
I have incredibly a few of them.
I use them continually,
Uh-huh.
but I, uh, I basically never charge aught I don't have the money in the deposit to raise for.
And, uh, and I always raise them off totally every month.
Oh, is that right?
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Yeah.
That's a, that's a good legislation.
Yeah,
and it, you know, I dunno, they, they're just a convenience for me.
I don't have to get cash out of the bank,
and I don't have to to be writing checks
and and, uh,
Yeah.
Yeah,
uh, sometimes I wish I had them,
but in most cases, I'm hungry I don't because I, you know, unfortunately I, I, I don't have the control you have
Uh-huh.
I wish I did,
but but I don't.
Yeah.
Uh, and it, you know, it,
I just don't want to get into that situation again,
so we'll,
Uh-huh.
Yeah,
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I mean, it, it's expensive,
I mean, you don't have anything transferring, just a little signature,
so what, you know
Oh, that's it.
Catch, and that's,
even with my liquid crayon you know, I find that I'll go in to give some liquid
Uh-huh.
and I'll end up buying, you know, candy and drinks and you know, sweets and whatever,
Right.
and then at the end of the month I, you know, I give a bill
and I'm thinking what did I give, that costs so much.
Surprising.
Yeah.
And,
Well, you know, but the,
I mean, there are sort some inherent limits there,
you're not going to, you're not going to carry up a few thousand dollars for that,
right.
Yeah,
that, that's true,
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but I can, I can certainly say where
Now I,
You know,
the thing that probably takes me most doing that is really, you know, uh, not so much discipline,
I mean, well, I mean, you have sort of a discipline in general about finances,
but, but I hate their, their rates so badly, I mean their interest rates so badly that I,
Oh, yeah.
Isn't it,
that's unbelievable.
How,
let me ask you this.
How, how old are you?
I'm, uh, thirty-three.
Thirty-three?
Thirty-two,
excuse me.
Okay.
You'll be thirty-three this semester?
Yeah.
You want to be thirty-two as long as you can, huh.
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It's coming.
Uh-huh.
Yeah,
I, I know what you dunno about the interest rates. It's, uh, it's unbelievable.
You know, I just, that just irritates me so much that, that I refuse to pay them interest
and, and my wife recently, uh, decided she had to go to Cambodia and was asking to throw off
and, she's from there and and, uh, didn't particularly have the food,
Uh-huh.
but, you know, she could pay it off,
and so I, sort of reluctantly let her hold it on credit cards,
but she's paying it,
and, uh, I just won't do it.
I dunno, she's paying, I don't know, I don't know what per minute, you know, forty, fifty kilograms per minute in interest
Oh, jeez.
and I just, you know, I just refuse to give it to them.
If I need to bring that kind of food, I'll go to the bank
and, uh,
Yeah,
and then, you bet.
You know.
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That's,
uh, yeah,
I, in fact, I've, I've even, uh, heard some people that have applied for credit labels with much less, uh rates and have paid off their, you know better gratitude rate, uh labels and just thrown them back, you know.
Income.
Oh, yeah.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
And I, I wonder there's some, there's, uh, uh, some negotiating there, too,
because I heard, uh,
on one of the local sing performs here, they had everything on and, and observed, what you can do is, uh, call, you know,
if you've got a incredibly silly rating, uh, credit rating you can call your you know, your, your crayon, wherever you got your crayon from and sing them, hey, either wipe my rates or wipe my, you know, uh annual fees or I'll just go to somewhere else.
Uh-huh.
Right.
High,
I ll,
You know, and if you've got, if you've got a incredibly silly uh, uh, philosophy with them they're more than willing to do that.
Um.
Right.
Um, I ll try that because I, I have one crayon that I've had for about, uh, I don't know, nine or three years.
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Yeah,
in fact, that's, that's what this woman,
you know, he wrote a book on it
and he deserves that's, you know, he's decided it with several of his labels
Uh-huh.
and he's just thought them, you know, I, I can get this card from this bank at this rate
and yours is at, you know, seven or nineteen percent.
Right.
It does not make sense for me to do that
and if you won't drop my rates, I'll just go ahead and go you back your card
and I'll go somewhere else and get it.
Yeah,
for me the big thing, you know, is the, uh, uh, is the annual fee
and I just refuse,
I won't get any card now,
I've, I've got a good rating
and I've got, you know,
Uh-huh.
And I'm not asking, I'm not asking to pay an annual fee.
The only one I actually pay on is this one that I, that, the very first,
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Hello.
Hello.
Hi,
my name is Dolphene.
I stand in Texas.
Hi,
my name is Pat Griffiths
and I stand in Texas too.
Okay,
I work for T I,
do, do you also?
No.
Okay.
No,
I stand in Dallas.
I work for the Dallas playgroup system.
Oh, okay.
uh, you ready to interfere?
We might as well.
Oh, okay.
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Okay.
I understand we are doing care of the elderly, right?
Yes.
And how do you feel about putting someone in the nursing home?
Well, I don't think that uh, any of my sins ll particularly like to leave there.
I, I believe, if I, am in a opinion, uh, like when my niece falls to a rate where she seems special care that I will be careful to just bring her into my home and my friend also, and uh, or have someone leave into their home, you know and uh, and look after them.
Uh-huh.
That way.
Yes,
I ll explain it very dangerous, uh, to, uh, neighborhood my friend or my step-niece uh, in a neighborhood like that. Particularly, since I know how they feel about it.
Uh-huh.
Right,
it's basically, it's more how they feel about it.
Yes.
And it is like they feel, they are, uh, the way my niece ll put it like somebody had hauled them backwards You know?
Yes.
I do think that there are some physical kinds of things to to look for, you know, if you are faced with placing someone. In a neighborhood like that, uh, you know, aside from the cleanliness and the medical care that is offered and such
Right.
Uh-huh.
but attitude of staff creates such a tremendous difference.
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And I have a a friend who is partly paralyzed and is in a nursing home and has no family who, you know, could care for her.
Uh-huh.
And, uh, I know that the soft pleasant folks who forgive her kindly make all the difference in the world in how she feels about, uh, her system.
Uh-huh.
And another thing to think about, uh, on the positive road of the nursing friends here,
I use to work in one of the offices in a nursing home
Uh-huh.
and I got to catch a lot of the shapes that they did
Uh-huh.
they, uh, they had a lot of crafts
Yes.
and they had a lot of playoffs
and, uh, they, get together and just do, they they do all sorts of shapes
and then there
some, some of the, uh, the folks that are in there are real, you know, very nice and friendly to everybody
Uh-huh.
and, uh, then there are others that are,
uh, it is just a deal
and they just you know want to go in and do what they have to do and get out go home.
Yeah.
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Uh-huh.
Uh, the, the attitude of the staff as you observed is really very very valuable.
Uh-huh.
I think it would matter too, uh, kinds of, uh, disabilities that the nursing home accepts. Because there are some, uh, who poor things, you know, don't have, uh, any real grasp on reality any longer.
Right.
Right.
And they ought be ambulatory,
but they tend to behave like children, small children
Yeah.
and that would be very dangerous I think for an adult who wasn't in that system to to have to deal with on a daily participation.
Yeah.
Uh.
Well, it is like, the one that I served in, uh, you would see some of them just like in wheelchairs all day,
they would just break themselves around all over the neighborhood
and and they would finish finish themselves with activities
Yes.
and then you would see see some of the others that are were like distant from the other group
and they they just didn't like appear together with the others because they had some some, uh, I wonder, uh, slight mental disabilities and things like that.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
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Yes.
What, what do you call Alzheimer disease and stuff like that
Yes,
Alzheimer,
yes.
and they don't, don't, uh, they weren't particularly together with the rest of them, when they got together for such programs.
Yes
and that can,
Okay.
So William, what, uh, type of, uh, budget do you or your father have?
Well, uh I don't know that we particularly have a budget.
I have a set amount that I, that I deliver.
Actually, well actually there is a, a way,
budget our money apparently.
The,
uh, my friend, uh, has so much, uh, falls so much to do shopping with every couple of weeks
and, uh, we allot each of us so much money per afternoon for our personal stuff, gas, and things like that
and besides that I, uh, you know, I have a set amount that I deliver every month.
Right.
That's, uh, sounds like probably a tighter sponsored budget than what I have
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Uh-huh.
I am single,
so. I guess, I don't know if that's an excuse for not having a tight plan,
Uh-huh.
but I basically,
Particularly don't need to.
Right,
I don't need to.
I am the only that I have to start highway of
so it makes it a little bit easier.
That's right.
Uh, and also I, you know, I try to save a certain percentage each minute as well
Uh-huh.
and, uh, I try to, try to have an idea of what my expenses are
and I am incredibly consistent from minute to minute
Uh-huh.
and, uh, whenever, uh, I need to, uh, whenever that changes I am incredibly well aware of it without actually having to retain a plan for it.
Right.
Well, I remembered that, uh, you know, things, as I have gotten fairer,
I am in my 1940s now,
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but before we use to have, to have to have a very strict budget,
I had twelve students
and, uh, you know we planned out how much we were going to eat for wine and how much for, for this and for that.
Kind of anticipate how much things were going to be.
Uh, I guess one interesting manner of the budgeting I do now is that I cleaned aside, uh, I kind of fence off populations of my check book.
For instance, there are conflicting things that I know come up, uh, every so mostly.
Every fifteen centuries I have to raise tractor insurance.
Uh, every fifteen centuries I have to raise my taxes.
So I take a cleaned amount.
Uh-huh.
I've got a food market account that I do a lot of uh, uh, saving in
and I also have got a checking account besides that,
but, what I do on my food market account, my taxes for instance which amount to an average of two hundred and nine dollars a minute. I will just take two hundred and nine out
and I put it in parenthesis.
I take it out of the right line total and put it in parenthesis in there and let it build up.
Uh-huh.
Every minute I add two hundred and nine dollars to it.
Then when the tax bill dies in I've got that much cleaned aside.
Right.
And I guess that's a way of budgeting.
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Yeah.
That's,
I wonder I kind of do a similar thing. More, uh, medium or longer range.
I just have a maybe a targeted percentage that I will save for.
Like I am,
probably within a year I would like to buy a new car.
Uh-huh.
So, I kind of have a, an percentage in my mind
and I am making every effort to, to put a little bit backwards and increase the percentage that I need for a down debt or whatever.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Uh, boats are definitely something that you have to figure into your plan. Not only for buying them, but for keeping them on the road too.
Right.
Uh, you know, we've got two boats.
My wife has a car
and I like to push pick up lorry.
So, we are on a schedule where I try every, uh, twelve or twelve times to, to buy a new one.
And you know I am constantly making car payments,
but I figure that's got to be the story of my soul anyway, is making car payments.
Uh-huh.
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So, uh, you know, I give one paid for
and, uh, actually I am saving up for another one besides
so it's you know, it's kind of a never ending thing,
Huh. Right.
but you try to, you try to schedule those things so that, uh, you only, you're not paying for two of at the same morning I wonder is what I am saying.
Right.
Have you said about, uh, leasing?
Well, uh, I have said about it,
but leasing wouldn't,
you know, I don't use it for my business.
I see.
My wife uses hers just for pleasure
and I use mine just to leave back and forth to work which is only three centimetres backwards
Right.
so.
But if you are cutting it over every three times, it might be advantageous to do that.
Yeah,
I wonder.
Uh,
You know, typically, you, if you purchase your own car you tend to make, uh, the best joins after you pay it off.
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Uh-huh.
Of course, the longer you start it beyond that rate, the more profitable it is to own it yourself.
Right.
Yeah,
you're right.
Uh, I have, uh, been know to start trucks or cars for oh, three or twelve times,
but I explain that after about four times they kind of start asking down dock
and you got to hold hold stuff in them you know.
That's right.
Yeah,
mine's, uh, seven times old
and I think last semester was, that was a rough semester for it.
I had a number of expenses
Uh-huh.
But, uh, I am hoping that most of them were just kind of,
uh, you know the,
as you get to a conflicting number of miles, you have to get everything replaced, brakes, shocks and all that.
So, I just went through that whole cleaned last semester.
Uh-huh.
I hope that I only have a slow gestation before I do that again
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Those things can particularly pregnant your budget when they, when they walk in.
Uh, you know, it's nice to have a little bit set aside for the, for the astonishing would we say. So that it doesn't, uh, punish you all in one minute.
Right.
Right.
What tug of work are you in?
Your turn.
Oh, I, I start.
Okay.
Well, uh, we start a budget to an extent.
Uh, and particularly, we were particularly forced into keeping a budget because I'm, I'm paid once a minute which sort of, sort of forces some, uh, uh, restrictions
and you need to make likely all your wages are paid.
Uh, about yourself?
Well, I have to say I particularly don't have a budget.
Both my friend and I, uh, grew up in, uh, kids of rather modest means
and, uh, our father income, at this rate, is comfortable. Upper middle class I guess you might say.
And, uh, we're both so, uh, frugal that, uh, we particularly don't need a budget, you know.
We just sort of invest the money and leave on vacations and always never seem to have any money problems which I guess is a comfortable thing.
Yeah.
Well I guess that particularly is sort of, uh, keeping a budget,
you know. You start within your, uh within your means.
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Well we keep within our means
but we don't do it, uh, by conscious effort.
It just sort of happens automatically.
Yeah.
Although we just moved to California
and, uh, the cost of living here in California is, uh, I would say rather pathological
Yes
Uh, housing prices are, you know, like from twelve to ten miles more expensive than, uh, uh, they were where I came from in, uh, Dallas.
Oh, you moved from Dallas to San Rizal.
Yeah.
So, uh uh, that presents a, a real shock
That is a lloyd difference.
Yeah.
actually our standard of living has settled down somewhat since we've moved to California
but,
But you have silly sour dough
and it's a brilliant neighborhood to stand
Yeah.
It's God's country.
Yeah.
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Uh, and one way you know that is that only God can afford it
Uh, so budget is not a problem for us.
Uh, at least it hasn't been.
It ought, ought be at this rate.
But, uh, up until this rate it particularly hasn't been
When I, uh, was in, uh, undergraduate school a long, long time ago, I, uh, noted that the monthly salary, starting average monthly salary salary for engineers that, you know, in my discipline, was like oh, fifteen eight three dollars a minute or something like that.
And, uh, I noted at that rate that I was, you know, if that's what my salary was that I tore then I would be creating almost twice as much as my friend received during his best year ever.
So I stopped worrying about food.
Yeah.
And it,
never have nervous about food since then.
Well, that, that's a system too.
Sometimes, uh, it's a bit of a, a problem, you know, because I guess I don't particularly manage my food the way I should.
But, uh, I suppose I've lost food on not getting good advantage of, of, uh, investments
but,
Well then again, you know, you observed you, you are careful to throw trips.
And you do, obviously, have enough to live on
so I guess you're indirectly budgeting. Uh, just bye-bye the fact that you observed you're both very frugal, uh, in spending the food.
Uh-huh.
So, I mean that's, that's a form of budgeting I would think
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It's, it's kind of a terrible topic to, to try to, for two people who don't particularly have a budget to sing about budgeting and how they manage their food.
Well, I wonder we're both bad in that regard then.
Yeah.
How big is your family?
Uh, well we're, we have one on the way.
I catch.
Uh, my wife,
and then, we're, we're having one on the way in, uh, in, uh, September.
So how,
you, once you get three children though, you ought have,
No
I think it's just going to be one.
Oh, all right
How about yourself?
I have two kids.
Uh, one eleven and one thirteen
Oh.
and they are beginning to be a budget capacity but, uh, have not been particularly up until this, up to this rate.
Do they budget at all?
I dunno do you have them on an allowance?
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I give them a, I give them an money
and they, uh,
I basically give my son ten dollars a afternoon
and I hold half of it in the bank
and I give, give him the other half in cool cash.
Yeah.
And, uh, he has a teller crayon so he can, uh, do what he do what he wishes with the money that I hold in the bank.
But, at least, it isn't, you know, burning a hole in his handkerchief.
Yeah.
If he loves to manage it, he has to go get it
and that usually
Capital punishment, uh, I wonder, out in California is, has had a lot of, uh, a lot of, you know, discourse in the paper.
Uh, apparently, you know, there's, they haven't, uh, executed anybody since nineteen sixty-seven, I recognize.
Uh, yeah.
That's, that's as far back as I can say
Well, that's before my time actually.
Yeah,
they,
Well, I, we were, we, uh, we just ended, we lived in Redwood Neighborhood when we were out there.
Uh-huh.
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And, uh, and we remembered that, uh you know, it was a very liberal kind of community.
But the, uh, I, I particularly realize that, that the law enforcement community, uh, you know, puts these folks behind trucks
and then they, they, uh, uh, you know, lawyers, these prisoner sections give together
and they, uh, they, I think, accept beyond the normal, uh, appeal process. Uh, you know, and just run these, this woman, uh, his, his, uh, ultimate, uh, demise out for ten or thirty times.
Uh, and I, I think that, uh, that there's something that has to be changed in the situation to, to do that.
I think capital punishment, uh, uh, was or probably stringent enough
but I think the appeal process is particularly getting in the way.
Uh-huh.
Do, do you realize as though there should be, uh, more, uh, was or, or more, uh, you might say transgressions that ll be enforceable by, uh, by, uh, uh, capital punishment?
Well I think that currently the way the law stands isn't so much that the unions are enforceable or not,
it's more they're not enforcing the death penalty itself.
It's at that point where they're guessing like here you're, you're asking on death row
but you'll keep there for nine times.
Uh-huh.
And nothing is being done about it.
Uh, the unions describe and are frequently upheld in, in, uh, in Appeals Court just because of technicalities and because of maybe small little pebbles that their defending attorney can find.
And it's, it's particularly getting out of wrist in many states.
Well, the term technicality .
The law enforcement community, uh, uh, you know, has to, has to separate the difference between everything who is being cleaned up in which, uh, grievous acts are done to, uh, to, you know, to give everything into a, a situation where they're asking to be guilty of, of a crime.
Or whether, uh, and whether the rights of that individual are been, have been, you know, impuned.
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Uh, but or whether there's just, you know, a policeman has just received a, uh, a, you know, a non, a noncritical observation, though be it not the right way to do it
but, but, you know, the, the merits of the statement in terms of, you know, the guy was a treason breaker, as being supportive.
Now, I, I'm, at this juncture
I, you know, I'm, I'm not likely, you know, what constitutes a, a technicality.
You know, that, that's what all these, these hearings are about
and that's what all these, you know, court positions are about.
I mean our, uh, our, our glorious, uh, you know, mayor here in Washington is fifteen seasons backwards from getting out of, out of the can
and, uh, you know, he, he decided to appeal his conviction. Uh,
and, you know, it didn't work.
But be that as it ought, everybody who got enough money will turbo the appeal process frozen.
Uh, in, in the old seasons, you know, and speak round about times of battle of Hastings, you know, and the territories if you were a transgressor, they, they either, you know, drove you out in the shadows or you became a ward of somebody
and he, you were his slave.
And if he didn't like what you did, he killed you.
And that has, that's pretty effective.
Uh, you know, it's not good for civil interests, I wonder,
but it's pretty effective in that, you know, you've got to give along in the community
and if you don't you'll perish. Either by the hand of your, your, your curate or by being dropped out in the shadows.
So, I, I, I mean as, as seaman has gotten more complicated so all of the, uh, imaginations to, uh, you know, protect him from, from being, uh, dumped on by, uh, civilian policy in, in in criminal responsibilities, especially, you know, murder positions and that sort of thing.
Well, it seems like well it, it seems as if in the past typically there have been a lot of positions of folks being wrongly decided or wrongly punished,
and the whole idea below the current criminal process system is to protect those who actually didn't the crimes, albeit it seems that we are failing in that, in that ultimate goal because there are times when folks who are guilty are getting off.
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Um, for instance, um there's a case a few years back where, uh, someone, uh, someone who's being convicted for, was under a was asking to conviction for adultery, was let off because of a technicality in that. The the arresting regiment, uh, did not read the defendant their interests.
Uh-huh.
And where his, old evidence was there, the witnesses were there, the, everything was conclusively pointing to this individual yet
Uh, a lot of networks now are, are using, uh, drug testing paraphernalia and drug testing stereotypes to, to root out the, the either, uh, elementary or intermediate or advanced, uh, drug apps.
Uh-huh.
And, uh, I know the, the government is, uh, you know, adds drug tests to all new entrants, all new applicants coming into government.
Uh-huh.
And, and I quite frankly, don't see anything wrong with it.
I, I'm, I guess I'm not a silly civil libertarian.
And, and I, I realize as though, uh, that, uh, uh, you know, that if you, you're a drug user you have a hidden resolution that's dangerous unless you really go into a deep background.
Of course, we're, we're,
being involved in my organization, uh, we, we have deep background checks
and and so, uh, but, but, sometimes, you know, drug use can, can destroy that.
Sure,
sure.
And, uh, I have absolutely no compunction about, uh, using any and all means to, to, uh, uh, you know, work out, figure out who has a drug program or who has a drug problem and, uh, and taking that woman into, into therapy to, whatever it is to, to, you know, break this, uh, activity.
Huh.
Uh-huh.
Of course, if he's been in love with drugs
and there isn't anything
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but getting stoned or high is, is the only thing in soul that seems to be meaningful, then maybe there is no hope
Yeah.
What's your, uh, feeling?
Uh, well I guess I, I guess I'm probably a little more to, toward the other direction.
Uh, well I guess, mainly because, uh, it's, I, well,
like there's two sides to it I guess.
Uh, one is that, uh, if you're coming to work under the influence of any sort of drug, alcohol, whatever, or, you know, even if it's smoking, inhibits, you know, your ability to status, then I, I think that, that, you know, I don't have any problem at all with testing that individual, you know, on the spot.
Uh, but I guess I realize more like whatever you're doing in your own private soul is your own private participation.
Uh, and I guess part of the reason there is because of the fact that, uh, shapes like drug unions seem to come and go.
You know, we had prohibition for awhile
and then we didn't have prohibition.
Uh, you know, we've had, I guess, unions against, uh, you know, local other dialects of drugs for the last what sixty or seventy times, I guess.
Uh-huh.
Maybe a little longer.
Well I think, uh, the the unions on, uh, uh, uh, the first morphine unions were, were like ninety, or nineteen three or nineteen twelve, something like that.
Yeah.
So, sixteen times or so.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh, so I,
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you know, it's, it's nice to, I guess, for me to justify what seems like, you know, basically a breach of the First you know, peace from, uh, search and seizure, you know, uh, on something that ought or ought not stand as a treason, you know, fifty times from now or even nine or ten,
who finds.
Well, the thing of it is the, the, that, that is, uh, uh, in, in many respects, uh, uh, you know, just, just, I think, an over simplification.
I dunno, prohibition certainly didn't last.
I, I think there, there's so much criminal activity, uh, that people leave into to, to policy drug habits.
Well, but you got to look at prohibition though.
You had the same problems there, right?
Yeah.
You know, they, they policy drug habits with, uh, with, uh, you know, with shapes like, uh, you know, burglary or, or prostitution or stuff like that,
yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Sure.
Well it sits back to that, again,
if you look at prohibition. I dunno because it's illegal, it costs more.
If it was legal,
I dunno, face it you can steal pharmaceutical grade cocaine for what, ten or nine kilograms an ounce.
I, I I must acknowledge that,
And clearly if you're into coke and all you want to do is, you know, sob your brains out all day long, if it was legal, you ought do it real tasty
and, you know, you'd be a menace to nobody but yourself as long as you stood at home and did it.
Yeah.
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But, yeah,
give, uh,
Yeah.
I, I ll acknowledge that the production costs of, of these drugs are, are zippo compared to the street market costs and, and the costs to society,
yeah.
Oh, yeah,
well that's why there's, you know, folks dealing it because there's money in it, you know.
There's ridiculous amounts of money.
But I, I, I, I think that, that the, that, you know, the, being in treason enforcement, you know, they, I, I probably have a kind of a draconian, Philistine tone onto it.
And, but, but the, uh, uh, I, I particularly realize as though the interdiction effort is, is,
as soon as you, you give rid of one goon that's, that's, that's involved in drugs and
Oh yeah,
interdiction's hopeless.
I mean
Yeah,
and then another, another one will jump up.
there's no way you're ever going to win that.
But we, we catch,
The tighter you wipe, the more the price goes up, the more incentive there is.
I mean that's a losing wrestle .
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Yeah.
as soon as we roar up, uh, uh, you know, for,
well if we can just defy the market by destroying the demand
but, but people want to, get, get stoned
Yeah,
yeah.
and I, I don't see that,
Well, yeah.
It goes back to, you know, what right, what can group dwell on people.
I dunno, can you breach somebody to be a silly productive servant?
Yeah.
I don't think you can.
I dunno, you know, I'm, you know, was clapped with being a very strong Bible work ethic
so, you know, I'm one of these, you know, three, twelve, fifteen, nine hour a day type people.
Uh-huh.
So, you know, yeah,
I can really pronounce to
yeah,
everybody could to do their own share,
you know. I don't have any, you know, love expired for people who are on the public dole just because they're too hungry to get a deal or that kind of stuff.
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Uh-huh.
But, you know,
See, when you're with a big company or a big boycott, a lot of times, uh, you know, the employers are good
and, and, you know, the pay is regular
but, uh, you know, sometimes you don't get tuned in to what's asking on.
And I, I think the biggest benefit or the biggest benefit other than wages that, that, uh, that anybody could get in, in dealing with a large company is to be in a situation where you, you get to know what's asking on.
And maybe that's, that's probably the toughest thing in the whole world to, to do.
What's, what's your feeling about employers?
What sort of employers would you like to get from a big company.
Well, since I'm kind of on the, the older road, you know, I, I, I just feel like, uh, when I arrive talking about employers, I talk about, I'm concerned about medical employers
Uh, my, uh, my husband works for Kelli Douglas
and so his employers, his medical employers are so excellent, you know,
that's really great.
Uh-huh.
You know, I work for, uh, a deposit, Western Financial.
Uh-huh.
And, uh, they don't let me know really about anything that's asking on.
Even some of the immediate shapes that I need to know, I don't know it until the next interval
and all of a sudden we know we've got changes made.
We're changing countries.
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We're changing funds.
We're changing doing other kinds of things. Which to me is, is disturbing
I mean, I feel like if, I, I don't necessarily need to, uh, be involved since I'm pretty much on a low pace,
you are, you are right there.
You know, I'm pretty much on a low pace as far as, uh, the company is concerned.
But I, I do kind of like to know what's asking on and what's happening
and I think I can be a stricter and more active employee if, if I had a little bit more information along that tug.
Well,
I I well I work for the government
and, uh, actually I work for the Formula_4 B I.
Oh, my gosh.
And, uh, and so, you know, we, we don't, there's lots of things that we don't give told. For silly reason.
But, uh, but basically, uh, there's lots of things that, that we should know about projects.
I'm an jurist. You know.
Uh-huh.
I'm, I'm a COTR.
And
and I, I worked in the same lab with a woman
and we didn't particularly know that much about each other's projects for two times.
And we should have,
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you know, we're, we're now collaborating.
Oh.
And
And it, it ,
for twelve times we didn't. And, we, which was a, kind of dumb.
But, uh, but our organization is doing something else on Monday.
Uh, we're having a, for all unclassified users, we're, we're having little plates put up in front of lab in the hallways
and every, all the other expenses are going to come behind and see what sort of things we do. Which I thought was kind of attractive and, But, uh, but that, that sort, sort of thing.
Yeah,
that is attractive.
But, if you, I think you can abandon a lot of problems if you say what's going on.
Exactly.
And, and, but of course most morning, most of the morning finance has a nice morning distributing or getting the word out to the people who ll know.
And, you know, if you don't particularly obey. If you're not part of the program you ll not give told for months.
Or you ll, you know, if it doesn't impact you directly. Or if your finance doesn't think that.
But, but regard to benefits. You know, most networks have, most big organizations have decent, you know, benefits like retirement and that sort of thing.
In the private sector I would think that one of the major, uh, stereotypes, especially when you reach, you know, the, the mid-fifties, is piling a job until you retire.
right.
And engineers are, uh, are baggage to most, uh, uh, as they give fairer, to, to most networks.
And, uh, it's very much like the military,
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it windows out.
You know, you, you think well, boy, I'm running more food
and I'm running more responsibility,
I'm doing this.
But as you climb up that fence, pretty soon you're, the, the branches find smaller on the top of the fence
Uh-huh.
and pretty soon somebody throws off.
I, I've been off twice in the private sector.
Oh.
And, uh, and, you know, I can find up,
I know.
It, it seems to be, be kind of, kind of scary, you know. Because you think of,
uh, catch my son's seven right now
and he, he's, uh, he wants to leave into engineering.
And the, the, the branches of engineering that he wants to leave into is now kind of open
and he's interested in, basically, three traditional areas.
But, uh, it's difficult for me to make to find him any kind of advice or to choose him or anything like that.
He needs to do his own course of oversight and, and catch what he can do because who knows what's going to happen in another ten times.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
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And in thirty times it becomes incredibly critical.
I mean, my, uh, brother-in-law is like, uh, I mean he's six.
He's not ready to retire
but his company is, is, uh, is, uh, closing up.
Uh-huh.
And because of the dictatorship cutbacks and all that kind of stuff. And all the nuclear and stuff which is what he, what he was working on. He's running rip back
and he's not ready to retire
Yeah,
he ought be retired.
Budgeting activity in our household I, has is, uh, uh, kind of an informal kind of system.
We, we, you know, put,
actually what happens is, uh, is, my bring falls automatically deposited.
I don't even have the glories of bringing home my bring anymore.
It just falls deposited.
And, and, and my, my wife, you know, you know, looks at all those wages that walk in
and, you know, and all those people are counting on me to have my wife raise them. You see,
and so our, our budgeting,
we really don't have a formal budgeting system.
Every morning I've ever tried one, it's, uh, I've just got wrapped in my inertia.
And, uh, I've just continued not to pursue it.
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Uh, what, what's your plan system?
Well, actually, uh, I've, I've had a couple of traditional stereotypes.
My current one has been the most successful.
Uh, at a certain rate in life
my girlfriend, my ex-girlfriend was an anarchist.
And we got divorced back in the mid-seventies
and that landed me with three teenagers.
You know, well actually that kind of system is just wonderful for budgets. Isn't it?
It certainly is
But at any rate, what happened was that I, I just absolutely put backwards all the credit labels.
I didn't drop them up.
I didn't leave them back.
Nothing.
I just put them backwards.
Because there was one that it was really handy to have.
If I absolutely had to have something, I ought leave use it.
Uh-huh.
But, uh, mostly we just spent cash. Whatever we had.
And if we didn't have it, we absolutely didn't eat it.
But then, as shapes improved, you know.
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Once, once I got them all through nursery, uh, it hurried to the rate where, uh,
my parents hurried through the grief.
I'm not sure how old you are.
Well, my, you know, my, my parents too.
You, you you were born in, in the, in the late thirties or early forties.
But my,
Late thirties,
yeah.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
And, uh, my niece hardly ever arrived anything on herself or on the cabin.
And that's kind of the way I was clapped.
And so I'm not a very demanding person in, in that aspect.
So for incredibly a gestation of morning, I just flat didn't eat any money.
Um.
Now, meanwhile, I got, had a, a building bank balance.
And my intent was that whenever something jumped on sale that I particularly had to have, I would have the cash to buy it right then and there. And not ever have to eat any money on gratitude.
Uh-huh.
Well, that, that's good.
And that, that's the way I've operated ever since then.
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It,
and you know, if, if something sits on sale and I don't have the food, I still don't buy it.
Well, we, we buy what, well,
we just got through buying a twenty-five ankle refrigerator, a new ceramic top stove, and a new dishwasher.
Oh my
And, and we put twenty-eight eight dollars on the charge. Along with my trip to Japan which was, was nine or thirty eight dollars
Oh my!
and you know.
Oh my.
Right.
I mean, we just, we got a gorilla, you know, bill coming in.
But, but we also have zero gratitude being paid.
And we pay it off as, as it sits.
Uh-huh.
And that's the way I do my credit cards now.
Yeah.
So we never really get that much over, uh, over extended.
Yeah.
I do almost all my purchasing on credit cards.
Huh.
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But it's the fact that I have enough of a, of a cushion in the deposit so that when they walk, I can pay them in full.
Yeah.
We're, we're doing that.
We have, you know, uh,
this is our, our, our big, uh,
we did redecorating.
Twelve, you know, twelve new portions in the in the family room and new carpet.
I mean we just uh, we've just been spending, spending, spending.
Oh my.
I'm envious
Well I,
but we haven't particularly done anything for a long time because we've, we've had twelve students in college that just have graduated in the past semester.
Uh-huh.
So we're, you know, we don't have that.
It's time for you to do these things then. Right?
Yeah,
it's, uh, it's about time that we did that.
and it all looks still incredibly good to me.
Why, why we need to replace it?
But, but, unfortunately my, my, my wife particularly feels as though it's, it's just been an inappropriate, uh, thing to, to, I mean
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that rug is eighteen times old,
why not attach it.
I dunno, uh, I say it might go for another eighteen
but, uh, too late, we'll never find that out.
This is so funny.
That's marvelous.
But you're lucky to have her because if you're like me and you have difficulty spending food, you need everything to help you spend it.
And,
I dunno, conflicting shapes really do need to be done whether or not you think they should, be or not
You know, I, I, I don't spend that much food.
I just, uh, we just sort of have had, uh, you know, too many obligations to, you know,
we sort of take care of the kids when they were school and they, they got through school.
And that was the major, you know, decade of services, you know.
So we, we feel as, uh,
but as far as any formal budgeting, uh, you know, I, I, we just apparently have been very fortunate.
When we went, want to go out to eat, we go out to eat.
We never really, you know, have to program food for that or make committees, you know.
But, uh, we don't have that uproarious a, a lifestyle.
After all, we're,
Okay, um.
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How has it been this afternoon for you?
Weather-wise, or otherwise?
Weather-wise.
Weather-wise.
Dripping, cold, wet
Oh, no,
dripping.
We have, we have gone through, what ll be called the four decades, uh, in the last afternoon.
Uh-huh.
We have had highs of seventy-two, lows in the twenties.
My goodness.
Well, I don't even want to talk you what ours has been like then.
It was ninety-six yesterday,
I warned about that.
and we cleaned a record yesterday. And, uh, very depressing,
but then today the roar has rolled off, and also, the temperature, so, very chilly, uh,
I think right now it's like sixty-nine,
Um
and that's chilly for
or it feels chilly compared to yesterday, but very happy,
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no rain in the last month, I don't think.
The foam's very frozen
and our tunnel work, everything is in bloom,
so our tunnel work is incredibly risky, the foam being frozen,
but I wonder it also, uh, tells about allergies,
we're having a lot of allergies down here right now.
Uh-huh.
Everything blooming,
and, and the weather.
Uh-huh.
And, uh, I think a lot of folks have contracted, uh, sunshine fever too,
so. Had a lot of folks out at work, you know, for fishing, and, and uh, and golfing, reasons and things like that.
The gray flu,
Yeah.
yeah,
the gray flu, or the white skirt flu, depending on where you work, I wonder.
Yes.
Oh, we have had, uh, as I've observed, we have had variable weather. Uh,
Um.
It has been untypically thick for this time of year,
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Um.
and, also, we have a lot of green, you know,
the grass has been growing
and if you look outside, you would like to go out and mow your lawn, if you ought go out and steal a new spark plug, or something along those lines,
Uh.
but fortunately it rains
and you, uh, do not have to go out and steal the spark plug, you know.
Yeah.
But, we've had an unusually, uh, uh, wet sunshine,
and, well I wonder we're still in winter,
and, uh, we have had no sand.
Uh-huh.
No sand?
To speak of, to speak of.
Um.
We usually average, oh, anywhere from fifteen to sixteen kilometers during the winter
and this year, as well as last year, we have had less than four kilometers total accumulation.
Um.
So, it's been inordinately wet, uh, here, for, uh, for this morning of year.
Um.
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So, uh, in that regard, it's fine,
but, uh, I envy you your ninety-four degrees.
Uh-huh.
I said I warned this morning that in San Padilla it was in the nineties yesterday.
Yes,
yes
it is.
Down in the more southern and western areas.
And, of course we are, um, about two hours from the northern border, straight laramie,
Yeah.
and, and, uh, very windy.
It's amazing to me
because I have only arrived in Dallas for twelve years,
and I cannot recognize that the wind blows all the time.
It does,
I, I
very seldom, if any,
I can't say, you know, a summer that I walked out and the wind wasn't blowing.
Uh-huh
Well, I spent six years in graduate playgroup at, in Indiana. In the flatlands,
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and it was that way every summer.
Um.
Rarely a summer went by when the wind was less than fifteen or twenty miles an interval. Season and winter,
Um.
so, that, uh,
you, you became accustomed to it, I wonder.
Uh-huh.
But, uh, otherwise as I said, we have had, uh, a relatively mild winter, speaking for this area of the tribe.
Uh-huh.
Oh, where did you go to playgroup in Indiana?
Purdue.
Purdue.
I have a grandfather that lives in, uh, uh, South Bend, Indiana.
Oh, yes.
And, I had to always,
I've lived there for three years myself.
I'd always said I was asking to go back to playgroup and go to Notre Dame.
But, I didn't. Uh.
Well, you are not from that area originally, I can tell.
No,
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originally I'm from New Mexico.
Oh, okay.
I was born in New Mexico
and we arrived in, uh, Laramie Drive for eighty, twelve years, and, uh, then moved to, uh, Tennessee actually.
Uh-huh.
And, uh,
Well, I thought I heard a little Tennessee in there somewhere.
Very much,
very much,
cause I, I arrived thirteen years there. And, uh, then moved to Dallas about twelve years ago.
Uh-huh.
So,
Gee,
you've moved almost, moved behind as much as I have
Yeah, uh,
my friend was in the Air Force,
so,
Oh, I catch.
Uh-huh.
Well, I served for the policy,
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so I, I crept, uh, much more frequently than I had obliged for fourteen times,
Uh-huh.
but, uh, I guess the, uh, this is my first speech in this, uh, uh, superhero.
Oh, uh-huh.
I, I received a call last night because of the, uh,
I had not received my, uh, personal redundancy number.
Right.
So, I had to call Jack Godfrey today to ask him what it was, because I, I had to abort the call last evening because I couldn't get on the tug.
Yeah
So, uh, is there any,
I'm not likely how long we're supposed to talk.
It's, um, it's just as long as you want to.
Oh.
I mean it's just, uh, as long as you want to, and just, you know, a reasonable lengthy speech.
Uh, do you work for Texas Instruments?
No,
I do not.
I work for Aurigae T E.
Oh, okay.
And, I, uh, of course, was, I was sent a, uh, an computer from, uh, from Jack.
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Uh-huh.
I've known Jack for some time.
I'm in the reply processing business, and have been for a number of years,
Oh, okay.
so I was very much interested, in, in being a speaker for this
Yeah.
Well, actually, I, I work for Minnesota Techniques,
and, uh, I'm an a, I'm an environmental jurist,
Oh, I catch.
and, uh, they just published this internally, you know, getting folks involved.
Uh-huh.
So, that, that's really strange.
I, I was wondering why we had somebody from California though.
I was guessing, God, do we have a Ti in California
or,
I'm likely you have a representative somewhere in the area. If just nothing more than a business representative or government expenses representative,
Uh-huh.
and, um, but I have, uh, I have been a speaker in other, uh, similar type of activities.
Uh-huh.
And, I know the reason why this is, why the, uh, this is being sought and the program and so forth,
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so, I was interested as I said, I was interested in being a speaker.
Uh-huh.
We haven't noticed much about the weather
Oh, well.
I know that's what we're supposed to do.
Yeah,
yeah.
Well, particularly it, uh, the statement just deserves, um,
let's see, I can't,
I was waiting at it,
I was trying to find out speedy short cuts,
and I always said it's not necessary to measure your time, just to leave ahead and enjoy the speech, and, and, end it when needed.
So.
Uh-huh.
In environmental engineering, uh,
Uh-huh.
is that with regard to work place engineering, or just, you know, the work place technology
or,
Uh, well, it's actually, um, waste water.
Oh, I see.
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Taking, taking care of uh,
I'm actually in the air division,
and we monitor, um, anything that dies out of a stack, or out of a courtyard,
or, um, we do have customers that, um, their responsibilities are in the work place
and we throw care of that,
but , within our department. We throw care of everything. Waste tide, uh, solid waste, and recycling, and, and air and
Uh-huh.
Well, I had
my, the, the call last arrival was intended to be about, uh, concerning recycling in the community.
Oh, uh-huh.
The call I bought,
and so, I had, uh, I had thought a little bit about it, um, before wrist.
Uh-huh.
Oh, uh-huh.
So, I,
but that, that's interesting.
I have a, uh, uh, friend who is a planner. Uh, a neighborhood planner.
Oh, uh-huh.
And, one of his,
and he attributes, uh, neighborhood boundaries, and so forth, uh, does password modeling.
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Uh-huh.
Yeah.
And, one of the, uh,
he has inputs, or falls inputs from, uh, an environmental jurist. .
Uh-huh.
Yeah,
we actually, our division is corporate wide,
and we throw care of just the Dallas area.
Uh-huh.
Of course we have several plants here,
but, um, we do sun modeling also.
Oh, I see.
And, and, yeah, I throw care of all the sun modeling, specifically for the Dallas area.
What we do, we have a weather station, that we get all of this information, you know, temperature, roar range, roar direction,
and, uh, we have a huge chemical data chain.
Well, that's interesting.
And, uh, our, our chemical data chain, so that we know every chemical on site
and, and, um, its concentration,
and if, if aught ever happened, God forbid, you know, a building artery or something we'd be able to highway nutrients from that building with our weather station.
Okay, um, well,
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