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10300 | From: jmichael@vnet.IBM.COM
Subject: Radar Detector DETECTORS?
Article-I.D.: almaden.19930406.131941.134
Lines: 3
They detect the oscillator operating in the detector. Saw a story about
their use in Canada. Now don't go putting oscillators in your cars... :-)
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10301 | From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: American Jewish Congress Open Letter to Clinton
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Lines: 46
In article <22APR199307534304@vxcrna.cern.ch> casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (CASPER,DAVI./PPE) writes:
>> [I said the fixation on Bosnia is due to it being in a European country,
>> rather than the third world]
>>I recall, before we did anything for Somalia, (apparent) left-wingers saying
>>that the reason everyone was more willing to send troops to Bosnia than to
>>Somalia was because the Somalis are third-worlders who Americans consider
>>unworthy of help. They suddenly shut up when the US decided to send troops to
>>the opposite place than that predicted by the theory.
>I am a staunch Republican, BTW. The irony of arguing against military
>intervention with arguments based on Vietnam has not escaped me. I was opposed
>to US intervention in Somalia for the same reasons, although clearly it was
>not nearly as risky.
Based on the same reasons? You mean you were opposed to US intervention in
Somalia because since Somalia is a European country instead of the third world,
the desire to help Somalia is racist? I don't think this "same reason" applies
to Somalia at all.
The whole point is that Somalia _is_ a third world country, and we were more
willing to send troops there than to Bosnia--exactly the _opposite_ of what
the "fixation on European countries" theory would predict. (Similarly, the
desire to help Muslims being fought by Christians is also exactly the opposite
of what that theory predicts.)
>>For that matter, this theory of yours suggests that Americans should want to
>>help the Serbs. After all, they're Christian, and the Muslims are not. If
>>the desire to intervene in Bosnia is based on racism against people that are
>>less like us, why does everyone _want_ to help the side that _is_ less like us?
>>Especially if both of the sides are equal as you seem to think?
>Well, one thing you have to remember is, the press likes a good story. Good
>for business, don't you know. And BTW, not "everyone" wants to help the
>side that is less like us.
I'm referring to people who want to help at all, of course. You don't see
people sending out press releases "help Bosnian Serbs with ethnic cleansing!
The Muslim presence in the Balkans should be eliminated now!" (Well, except
for some Serbs, but I admit that the desire of Serbs in America to help the
Serbian side probably _is_ because those are people more like them.)
--
"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me... Leftover Turkey!
On the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me... Turkey Casserole
that she made from Leftover Turkey.
[days 3-4 deleted] ... Flaming Turkey Wings! ...
-- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu/A*gic bait)
Ken Arromdee (arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)
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10302 | From: julie@eddie.jpl.nasa.gov (Julie Kangas)
Subject: Re: Top Ten Reasons Not to Aid Russians
Nntp-Posting-Host: eddie.jpl.nasa.gov
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Lines: 73
In article <C513wJ.75y@encore.com> rcollins@ns.encore.com (Roger Collins) writes:
>julie@eddie.jpl.nasa.gov (Julie Kangas) writes:
>|> In article <C50FnH.Cvo@news.udel.edu> roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes:
>|> > [With a tip of the hat to David Letterman for making the Top Ten format
>|> > so popular]
>|> >
>|> >Top Ten Reasons that Conservatives don't want to aid Russia:
>|>
>|> <looking around> Who? Where?
>|> Don't look at me. I want to send aid to Russia. Many other
>|> conservatives do as well.
>|>
>Yes, it was Nixon who was most vocal about giving money to Russia. It
>makes me proud to be a libertarian. It appears both conservatives and
>liberals prefer to cold war until you win, then nurse the enemy back to
>health for another go around.
Enemy? Sounds like that's the viewpoint of the stereotypical rednecked
conservative -- 'always been commies, always will be.' I suggest you
listen very carefully to the stuff Yeltsin and his people are saying
and compare that with the very anti-West slogans coming from his
opponents in the Russian congress. I sure know who I want to back.
Oh, BTW, Germany has sure come back as a terrible enemy after WWII,
hasn't it?
>
>It's like subsidizing the wealthy countries (Japan, Germany, etc.) with
>free defense, and then trade-warring with them because of the economic
>competition. It's like subsidizing tobacco farmers while paying
>bureaucrats to pursuade people not to smoke.
Better to let them degenerate into civil war? Remember all those
nuclear weapons in Russia. I cannot imagine that they would not
be used in a civil war. If nationialists take over and, even if
they prevent a civil war, most feel they must take back large
parts of land that are in other countries (like Ukraine.) I also cannot
imagine Ukraine giving up land without a fight, possibly nuclear.
How does this affect us? Well, we are on the same planet and if
vast tracks of Europe are blown away I think we'd feel something.
A massive breakup of a country that spans 1/6th the planet is
bound to have affects here. (Of course, there is also the
humanitarian argument that democracies should help other
democracies (or struggling democracies).)
>
>I ask myself, what law could we pass to prevent government from doing
>stupid, frivilous things with OUR money? Then I think, the Constitution
>was supposed to do that. Could someone please tell me what legitimate
>constitutional power the federal government is using when it takes money
>from my paycheck and gives it to needy countries? Seriously.
Seriously. Everyone has different opinions on what is stupid.
My two "causes" are aid to Russia and a strong space program.
Someone else will champion welfare or education or doing studies
of drunken goldfish. That is why we have a republic and not a
true democracy. Instead of gridlock on a massive scale, we
only have gridlock on a congressional scale.
BTW, who is to decide 'stupid?' This is just like those who
want to impose their 'morals' on others -- just the sort of
thing I thought Libertarians were against.
Actually, my politics are pretty Libertarian except on this one issue
and this is why it is impossible for me to join the party. It seems
that Libertarians want to withdraw from the rest of the world and
let it sink or swim. We could do that 100 years ago but not now.
Like it or not we are in the beginnings of a global economy and
global decision making.
Julie
DISCLAIMER: All opinions here belong to my cat and no one else
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10303 | From: wagner@grace.math.uh.edu (David Wagner)
Subject: Re: Deuterocanonicals, esp. Sirach
Organization: UH Dept of Math
Lines: 53
ddavis@cass.ma02.bull.com (Dave Davis)
writes:
II. The deuterocanonicals are not in the canon because
they are not quoted by the NT authors.
That is not quite accurate. Otherwise we would have the book
of Enoch in the canon (as Dave noted). One can say that the
apocrypha are not quoted by Christ.
Dave also writes:
III. The deuterocanonicals are not in the canon because
they teach doctrines contrary to the (uncontroverted)
parts of the canon.
then I answer:
These is a logically invalid *a priori*.
Besides, we are talking about OT texts-
which in many parts are superceded by the NT
(in the Xtian view). Would not this same
principle exclude _Ecclesiastes_?
This principle cannot be consistently applied.
I have to reject your argument here. The Spirit speaks with one
voice, and he does not contradict himself.
The ultimate test of canonicity is whether the words are inspired
by the Spirit, i.e., God-breathed. It is a test which is more
guided by faith than by reason or logic. The early church decided
that the Apocrypha did not meet this test--even though some books
such as The Wisdom of Ben Sirach have their uses. For example,
the Lutheran hymn "Now Thank We All Our God" quotes a passage
from this book.
The deutero-canonical books were added much later in the church's
history. They do not have the same spiritual quality as the
rest of Scripture. I do not believe the church that added these
books was guided by the Spirit in so doing. And that is where
this sort of discussion ultimately ends.
David H. Wagner
a confessional Lutheran "Now thank we all our God
With heart and hands and voices,
Who wondrous things hath done,
In whom His world rejoices;
Who from our mother's arms
Hath blessed us on our way
With countless gifts of love,
And still is our today."
--"Nun danket alle Gott", v. 1
--Martin Rinckart, 1636
(compare Ben Sirach 50: 22-24)
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10304 | From: tommc@hpcvusj.cv.hp.com (Tom McFarland)
Subject: Re: Mysterious beeping
Nntp-Posting-Host: hpcvusj.cv.hp.com
Reply-To: tommc@cv.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett Packard UTD-Corvallis
Lines: 40
In article <C5qtKK.wp@cup.hp.com>, defaria@cup.hp.com (Andy DeFaria) writes:
|> [ Article crossposted from hp.windows ]
|> [ Author was Andy DeFaria ]
|> [ Posted on Mon, 19 Apr 1993 18:08:38 GMT ]
|>
|> For some reason the following code causes my X application to beep whenever I
|> intercept a keystroke and change it's meaning. The intent of this code it to
|> allow "date" fields the following special keys:
|>
|> [Tt]: Insert today's date
|> [+=]: Bump day up by one
|> [-_]: Bump day down by one
|>
|> I hardcoded some dates for this example. Perhaps I shouldn't be using an
|> XmText field for this.
|>
|> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
|> //
|> // For some reason the following code beeps whenever any of the special keys
|> // of [Tt+=-_] are hit. Why? The idea of this code is to interpret these
|> // keys having the special meaning implied by the code. I would like to get
|> // rid of the beeping but, as far as I can tell, I'm not doing the beep and
|> // am at a lose as to understanding who and why the beeping is occuring.
|> //
|> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
code deleted...
From the XmTextField man page (during discussion of resources):
XmNverifyBell
Specifies whether a bell will sound when an action is reversed
during a verification callback.
You are setting doit to false in the callback, and Text[Field] is beeping
as it should. To turn off this behavior, set this boolean resource to false.
Tom McFarland
<tommc@cv.hp.com>
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10305 | From: hgn@pmw1.nuclint.NL (Hans Geurtsen)
Subject: Cursors
Organization: The Internet
Lines: 19
To: motif@alfalfa.com, xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
According to the OSF/Motif Style Guide, one should use cursor shapes to give
the user a visual clue of what is happening or what is expected of him. So
a "hourglass" cursor should be shown when the application is busy, or a
"caution" cursor should be shown over an area when input is expected in
another. Defining cursors for widgets has to be done at rather low level.
So defining a cursor for all widgets in an application but not for a certain
subpart of it, is a rather complicated matter. When cursors have been defined
for some windows, e.g. a "crosswire" cursor for a DrawingArea, things get even
more complicated. My intuition says that things should be easier, but is this
so? If anyone has a solid and complete solution to my problem, please let me
know. The topics on "busy cursors" in the several FAQ's are not helpful, since
they only work for applications where all windows have the cursor window
attribute set to 'None'.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Hans Geurtsen Phone: (31) (0) 8385 - 33157
Nucletron Research BV. e-mail: hgn@nuclint.nl
Surface: Waardgelder 1
NL-3905 TH Veenendaal
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10306 | From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: SHARKS: Kingston Fired!!!
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Lines: 19
In article <1993Apr20.085337.27224@leland.Stanford.EDU> terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong) writes:
>I think that Jack Ferreira's firing eventually led to Kingston's
>firing. You mention consistency of vision. I think the
>Sharks lost that with the loss of Ferreira. There has never
>been a 3 headed G.M. that has ever worked. You need one
>person making the personnel decisions at the top, not
>management by committee. The conventional wisdom
>from around the league is that Ferreira would have
>made the moves that would have fielded a better product
>on the ice.
How exactly would Ferreira accomplished this? The three-headed GM-ship has
taken a lot of heat, but nobody's explained how things would have been any
different had Ferreira still been there. Would Ferreira have made more
trades? Who would have he had traded? Would he have made fewer trades?
Who should not have been traded?
Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
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10307 | From: pete@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Peter Alexander Merel)
Subject: Re: What if the USSR had reached the Moon first?
Nntp-Posting-Host: extro.ucc.su.oz.au
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Lines: 25
jgreen@trumpet.calpoly.edu (James Thomas Green) writes:
>If they had beaten us, I speculate that the US would have gone
>head and done some landings, but we also would have been more
>determined to set up a base (both in Earth Orbit and on the
>Moon). Whether or not we would be on Mars by now would depend
>upon whether the Soviets tried to go. Setting up a lunar base
>would have stretched the budgets of both nations and I think
>that the military value of a lunar base would outweigh the value
>of going to Mars (at least in the short run). Thus we would
>have concentrated on the moon.
Great speculation - I remember being proud on behalf of all the free
world (you think that way when you are seven years old) that we had
got there first. Now I'm almost sorry that it worked out that way.
I guess the soviets would have taken the victory seriously too, and
would almost certainly not have fallen victim to the complacency that
overtook the US program. Perhaps stretching to match US efforts would
have destabilized them sooner than it did in fact - and in the tradition
of Marvel Comics 'What If', this destabilization in the Brezhnev era might
have triggered the third world war. Hmm, maybe it was a giant leap after all.
--
Internet: pete@extro.su.oz.au | Accept Everything. |
UUCP: {uunet,mcvax}!munnari!extro!pete | Reject Nothing. |
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10308 | From: andreasa@dhhalden.no (ANDREAS ARFF)
Subject: Re: Newsgroup Split
Lines: 40
Nntp-Posting-Host: pc110
Organization: Ostfold College
In article <1quvdoINN3e7@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> tdawson@engin.umich.edu (Chris Herringshaw) writes:
>From: tdawson@engin.umich.edu (Chris Herringshaw)
>Subject: Newsgroup Split
>Date: 19 Apr 1993 19:43:52 GMT
>Concerning the proposed newsgroup split, I personally am not in favor of
>doing this. I learn an awful lot about all aspects of graphics by reading
>this group, from code to hardware to algorithms. I just think making 5
>different groups out of this is a wate, and will only result in a few posts
>a week per group. I kind of like the convenience of having one big forum
>for discussing all aspects of graphics. Anyone else feel this way?
>Just curious.
>
>
>Daemon
>
Actuallay I don't, but on the other hand I don't support the idea of having
one newsgroup for every aspect of graphics programming as proposed by Brian,
in his reply to my original posting.
I would suggest a looser structure more like a comp.graphics.programmer,
comp.graphics.hw_and_sw
The reason for making as few groups as possible is for the same reason you
say we shouldn't spilt up, not to get to few postings every day.
I takes to much time to browse through all postings just to find two or
three I'm interested in.
I understand and agree when you say you want all aspects of graphics in one
meeting. I agree to some extension. I see news as a forum to exchange ideas,
help others or to be helped. I think this is difficult to achive if there
are so many different things in one meeting.
Good evening netters|-)
Arff
"Also for the not religous confessor, there is a mystery of higher values,
who's birth mankind - to the last - builds upon. They are indisputible. And
often disregarded. Seldom you hear them beeing prized, as seldom as you hear
a seeing man prizeing what he sees." Per Lagerkvist, The Fist
(Free translation from Swedish)
--Andreas Arff andreasa@dhhalden.no--
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10309 | From: callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison)
Subject: Re: Dumbest automotive concepts of all time
Nntp-Posting-Host: uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Lines: 26
In article <1993Apr15.223029.23340@cactus.org> boyle@cactus.org (Craig Boyle) writes:
>In article <C5JnK3.JKt@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (OrioleFan@uiuc) writes:
>> Wasn't the original intent of the reverse lights for the driver, so he
>>could see where he was backing up??? Although reverse lights on the sides
>
>No. reverse lights are to warn others that you are backing up. They
>aren't bright enough to (typically) see by without the brake and tail
>lights.
I don't know where you live, but I couldn't get out of my driveway
at night without reverse lights. As someone said, out in the country
you notice neat little things like stars and the difference between
day and night. At night around my house (which is amongst a forest of
rather tall oaks) it is DARK, except for nights with full moons.
Reverse lights illuminate my path very well when backing up; I greatly
prefer cars with them to cars without operational reverse lights.
James
James P. Callison Microcomputer Coordinator, U of Oklahoma Law Center
Callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu /\ Callison@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu
DISCLAIMER: I'm not an engineer, but I play one at work...
The forecast calls for Thunder...'89 T-Bird SC
"It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. You take away all he has
and all he's ever gonna have."
--Will Munny, "Unforgiven"
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10310 | From: gfeygin@unicorn.eecg.toronto.edu (Gennady Feygin)
Subject: Kol Israel Broacasts
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, University of Toronto
Lines: 5
Does anyone have a schedule of Kol Israel broadcasts in different
languages that could be posted or e-mailed to me. Your
assistance would be greatly appreciated
GF
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10311 | From: s127@ii.uib.no (Torgeir Veimo)
Subject: Re: sources for shading wanted
Organization: Institutt for Informatikk UIB Norway
Lines: 24
In article <1r3ih5INNldi@irau40.ira.uka.de>, S_BRAUN@IRAV19.ira.uka.de
(Thomas Braun) writes:
|> I'm looking for shading methods and algorithms.
|> Please let me know if you know where to get source codes for that.
'Illumination and Color in Computer Generated Imagery' by Roy Hall contains c
source for several famous illumination models, including Bouknight, Phong,
Blinn, Whitted, and Hall illumination models. If you want an introduction to
shading you might look through the book 'Writing a Raytracer' edited by
Glassner. Also, the book 'Procedural elements for Computer Graphics' by Rogers
is a good reference. Source for code in these book are available on the net i
believe, you might check out nic.funet.fi or some site closer to you carrying
graphics related stuff.
Hope this is what you were asking for.
--
Torgeir Veimo
Studying at the University of Bergen
"...I'm gona wave my freak flag high!" (Jimi Hendrix)
"...and it would be okay on any other day!" (The Police)
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10312 | From: fwr8bv@fin.af.MIL (Shash Chatterjee)
Subject: xrolo/SPACRC/SunOS4.1.1/audio
Organization: The Internet
Lines: 21
NNTP-Posting-Host: enterpoop.mit.edu
To: xpert%expo.lcs.mit.edu@fin.lcs.mit.edu
Could some one please send me (or tell me where to ftp from) the patches required
for xrolo so that I can compile-in the SPARCStation phone-dialing feature?
I am using SunOS 4.1.1, and therefore don't have "multimedia/libaudio.h" or
"multimedia/audio_device.h" and associated functions.
Just in case, our mail gateway only accepts msgs < 45Kb.
Thanks in advance,
Shash.
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+ EC Software PHONE: (817) 763-1495 +
+ Lockheed Fort Worth Company FAX: (817) 777-2115 +
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10313 | From: skt@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Simon K Train)
Subject: Help me please!
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.
Distribution: net
Lines: 7
I am a PhD student.
Can I get the sci.crypt group posted directly to me???
Also I would like some feed-back on the encryption schemes that my research in
finite fields can be applied to. Any takers
Reply to gamv25@udcf.gla.ac.uk
Thanks yours
Gavin.
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10314 | Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, academic Computer Center
From: <U23590@uicvm.uic.edu>
Subject: Cripple Chip
Lines: 19
How about this: The
TelCo has your Clipper key. The TelCo
has your intended partner's key, if he is
using one. Whenever you call, the message
gets decrypted and reencrypted wihtout
y key exchange. I know it's a stupid
system, but for the feds, it'd be
great. The point of this isn;t to
take over the crypto market, BTW. Clinton
doen not want people to have any sort of crypto at
all (just like Busch). But he needs some support
for the "technology initiative" garbage he's
pushing (industrial policy stuff) and a computer
hip designed by the gov't is just the thing.
Who's going to thing about the (literal) Billions of
Dollars it took for a government agency to design?
-watkins@earth.eecs.uic.edu
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10315 | From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Re: insect impacts
Nntp-Posting-Host: acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Lines: 36
In article <2385@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
>
> For those who have had problems with small birds what about the
> large raptor types when they are swooping across the road after
> smallish prey?? I had a hawk, Falcon what ever come within 5
> feet of me, lucky for him (or me for that matter) he noticed me
> and my, and pulled up on his/her trajectory at the last moment.
> Scared the shit outa me...nothing like a red tailed hawk in the
> face, Talons and all....I wonder if riding a Nighthawk has
> anything to do with it....hmmmm?
>
> Ryan
> 0780
I got a male Mallard duck in the chest once.
It was like being kicked by my karate instructor.
No accident, but my eyes were tearing so hard, and I was wheezing
so loudly, that it's quite remarkable that I was able to come
to a stop with the rubber side up.
The duck, BTW, lived, and seemed quite healthy, though we both
sat by the roadside and shook our heads for a few minutes.
The bruise went from my right collar bone all the way down to
my belly button.
Regards, Charles
DoD0.001
RZ350
--
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
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10316 | From: bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Andrew Henry)
Subject: Fujitsu and Seagate IDE Drive Compatibility
Organization: School of Biological Sciences, University of Bath, UK
Lines: 17
I've been trying to get my Fujitsu M2611T 45mb hard disk (circa
1990) to share my IDE card with a new Seagate ST3283A 245mb one.
I've tried fiddling the jumpers to set the master and slave drives
without any success [without the table of hard drive specs from
this newsgroup I couldn't have got that far].
Has anyone else got this combination to work. The place I got the
new one muttered something like "Hmmm Fujitsu, nice drives, not
very compatible." He'll let me swap the Seagate for another brand
but he thought it was more a problem with the Fujitsu.
So has anyone got a similar Fujitsu drive to work with another cheapish
disk ... or want to buy a cute and cuddly little Fujitsu drive ?
Andrew Henry
bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk
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10317 | From: rjl+@pitt.edu (Richard J. Loether)
Subject: Re: Who's next? Mormons and Jews?
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Lines: 38
In article <1r1et6INNh8p@ctron-news.ctron.com> king@ctron.com (John E. King) writes:
:
: pmy@vivaldi.acc.Virginia.EDU (Pete Yadlowsky) writes:
:
:::Didn't Christ tell his disciples to arm them selves, shortly
:::before his crusifiction? (I believe the exact quote was along the
:::lines of, "If you have [something] sell it and buy a sword.")
:
::This from a guy who preached love, deference of power to God and
::renunciation of worldly life in exchange for a life of the spirit? If
::Jesus did in fact command his disciples to arm themselves, I would
::take that as yet another reason to reject Christian doctrine, for
::whatever it's worth.
Like most religions, the doctrine has good and bad in it. I would
certainly reject the current implementations of the doctrine.
:
:No. The above is a classic example of taking a scripture out of context.
:It's taken from Luke 22:36. But note vs 37; "For I tell you that this
:which is written must be accomplished in me, namely, 'and he will be reckoned
:with lawless ones'...". He then stated that two swords were enough
:for the group to carry to be counted as lawless.
So having more than the politically correct number of weapons was
cause to be arresed and killed even then, huh?
:Jesus' overiding message was one of peace (turn other cheek; live by
:sword die by sword; etc).
Yes, of course, as in Matthew 10:34-35 "Do not suppose that I have come to
bring peace to the earth; it is not peace I have come to bring but a sword..."
:
RJL
--
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EMail: rjl+@pitt.edu Computing and Info Services Mine,
Voice: (412) 624-6429 600 Epsilon Drive all
FAX : (412) 624-6426 Pittsburgh, PA 15238 Mine.
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10318 | From: hagenjd@wfu.edu (Jeff Hagen)
Subject: Re: Top Ten Reasons Not to Aid Russians
Organization: Wake Forest University
Lines: 4
NNTP-Posting-Host: ac.wfunet.wfu.edu
Wasn't it Tricky Dick who issued stern warnings to Bush & Clinton
not to 'Lose Russia'? (a la 'Who lost China?')
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10319 | From: tw2@irz.inf.tu-dresden.de (Thomas Wolf)
Subject: Q: TIFF description
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, TU Dresden, Germany
Lines: 13
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: irz205.inf.tu-dresden.de
Keywords: TIFF
Sorry for wasting your time with a probably simple question, but I'm not
an computer graphic expert. I want to read TIFF-Files with a PASCAL-program.
The problem is, that the files I want to read are in compressed form
( code 1, e.g. Huffman ). All books & articles I found describe only the
plain (uncompressed) format. I don't know where to get the original
TIFF specification, furthermore I haven't any access to a realy complete
library. Can anybody direct me to a good book or (even better) to an
specification available via ftp ?
Thanks in advance - Thomas Wolf
ps: direct mail would be prefered
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10320 | From: healta@saturn.wwc.edu (Tammy R Healy)
Subject: Re: Branch Davidians info
Organization: Walla Walla College
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In article <Mar.18.02.31.54.1993.25350@athos.rutgers.edu> clitton@opie.bgsu.edu writes:
>From: clitton@opie.bgsu.edu
>Subject: Branch Davidians info
>Date: 18 Mar 93 07:31:55 GMT
>I am looking for any information on the Branch Davidians. Send info to Chad
>Litton, ACS Dept. BGSU, Bowling Green OH 43403. Or e-mail to
>clitton@andy.bgsu.edu Thanks in advance.
I don't claim to be an expert on the branch Davidians, but I might know more
than most.
The Branch Davidian group (led by Koresh) is actually one of two off-shoots
of a group known as the Shephard's Rod. The Shephard's Rod (now
defunct as far as I know)broke off from the SDA Church in the 30's.
The Shephard's Rod broke away from the SDA Church because they felt that the
SDA Church was becoming weak and falling into apostacy. They felt that they
were the remnant spoken about in Revelation.
About the Koresh group, Koresh gained control of it in 1987 or 1988. Once
in control, he made himself the center of it. He proclaimed himself as
Christ.
Koresh himself came from an SDA background. He was excommunicated as a young
adult by the local congregation for trying to exert too much control over
the youth in the church. After this, he joined the Branch Davidians.
They were/are a survivalist cult. This is why they had the stockpile of
weapons, food, a bomb shelter, etc. They had no intent of raiding the US
government or anything. They were preparing for Armaggedon and were
putting themselves in a self defense position.
In my opinion, if the ATF and the FBI had left well enough alone, we wouldn'
t have the blood of 20+ children crying out from the ashes in Waco.
If you want to know about The Shephard's Rod, you might want to visit the
local SDA church and talk to some of the older people. They could give you
some insight into where Koresh got his theology.
Tammy
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10321 | From: hudson@athena.cs.uga.edu (Paul Hudson Jr)
Subject: Re: Homosexuality issues in Christianity
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Lines: 35
In article <May.6.00.35.17.1993.15441@geneva.rutgers.edu> loisc@microsoft.com (Lois Christiansen) writes:
>In article <Apr.30.03.11.27.1993.10101@geneva.rutgers.edu> FSSPR@acad3.alaska.edu wrote:
>You might visit some congregations of Christians, who happen to be homosexuals,
>that are spirit-filled believers,
Gifts of the Spirit should not be seen as an endorsement of ones behavior.
A lot of people have suffered because of similar beliefs. Jesus said
that people would come to Him saying "Lord, Lord," and proclaiming
the miraculous works they had done in His name. Jesus would tell
them that they were workers of iniquity that do not know Him, and to
depart from Him.
That is not to say that this will happen to everyone who commits a homosexual
sin. If the Holy Spirit were only given to the morally perfect, He would
not be given to me, or any of us. God can forgive any sin, if we repent.
But people should be careful not to think, "God has given me a gift of
the Spirit, it must be okay to be gay." That is dangerous (see also hebrews
6 about those who have partaken of the Holy Spirit and of the powers of
the world to come.)
>The Lord IS working in our community (the homosexual community, that is). He's
>not asking us to change our sexual nature,
Jesus doesn't ask us to change our own nature. We cannot lift ourselves
out of our own sin- but we must submit to His hand as He changes our
nature. Practicing homosexual acts and homosexual lusts violates the
morality that God has set forth.
If you don't believe that, and think those of us who do are just ignorant,
then at least consider us weak in the faith and be celebate for our sake's.
Is practicing homosexuality worth the cost of a soul, whether it be the
homosexual's or the one considered "ignorant?"
Link Hudson.
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10322 | From: jpaparel@cs.ulowell.edu (Joseph Paparella)
Subject: Re: cica mirror?
Organization: UMass-Lowell Computer Science
Lines: 2
I find that it's always (almost anyway) busy when I dial, but if I try repeatedly, usually only 5 to 15 tries, I always get connected.
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10323 | From: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey)
Subject: Re: Objective morality (was Re: <Political Atheists?)
Organization: sgi
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In article <1ql7utINN5sg@gap.caltech.edu>, keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes:
|> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
|>
|> >I want to know how this omniscient being is going to perform
|> >the feat of "definitely" terming actions right or wrong.
|>
|> If you were omniscient, you'd know who exactly did what, and with what
|> purpose in mind. Then, with a particular goal in mind, you sould be
|> able to methodically judge whether or not this action was in accordance
|> with the general goal.
But now you are contradicting yourself in a pretty massive way,
and I don't think you've even noticed.
In another part of this thread, you've been telling us that the
"goal" of a natural morality is what animals do to survive.
But suppose that your omniscient being told you that the long
term survival of humanity requires us to exterminate some
other species, either terrestrial or alien.
Does that make it moral to do so?
jon.
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10324 | From: ken@sugra.uucp (Kenneth Ng)
Subject: Re: nuclear waste
Organization: Private Computer, Totowa, NJ
Lines: 18
In article <1993Mar31.191658.9836@mksol.dseg.ti.com: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
:Just a bit off, Phil. We don't reprocess nuclear fuel because what
:you get from the reprocessing plant is bomb-grade plutonium. It is
:also cheaper, given current prices of things, to simply fabricate new
:fuel rods rather than reprocess the old ones, creating potentially
:dangerous materials (from a national security point of view) and then
:fabricate that back into fuel rods.
Fabricating with reprocessed plutonium may result in something that may go
kind of boom, but its hardly decent bomb grade plutonium. If you want bomb
grade plutonium use a research reactor, not a power reactor. But if you want
a bomb, don't use plutonium, use uranium.
--
Kenneth Ng
Please reply to ken@eies2.njit.edu for now.
"All this might be an elaborate simulation running in a little device sitting
on someone's table" -- J.L. Picard: ST:TNG
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10325 | From: mont@netcom.com (Mont Pierce)
Subject: Re: 8051 Microcontroller
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Lines: 31
In article <1qppr5INNaqa@dns1.NMSU.Edu> mcole@spock (COLE) writes:
>I would like to experiment with the INTEL 8051 family. Does anyone out
>there know of any good FTP sites that might have compiliers, assemblers,
>etc.?
Well, it's not an FTP site, but I got an 800 number for Signetics BBS.
The Signetics BBS contain some pretty good items for the 8051. I am
currently using the following files which I downloaded from them:
ml-asm51.zip MetaLink's 8051 family macro assembler
bootstrp.zip Hex file Load-and-Go using 8051 uart
(allows you to download your program into a RAM
and then execute from RAM. Works great. Tell
me if you want more details).
tutor51.zip TSR for 8051 feature help screens
They have lots of coding examples, assemblers, and misc. tools.
Signetics BBS numbers are: (800) 451-6644
(408) 991-2406
Have fun,
--
Mont Pierce
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10326 | From: amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker)
Subject: Re: Secret algorithm [Re: Clipper Chip and crypto key-escrow]
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation - Herndon, VA USA
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Distribution: world
Reply-To: amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker)
NNTP-Posting-Host: chaos.intercon.com
X-Newsreader: InterCon TCP/Connect II 1.1
pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley) writes:
> As for the cleaners, I'll stick with my 850W Electrolux and damn the
> carpet.
Nah. Nothing sucks like a VAX :)...
Amanda Walker
InterCon Systems Corporation
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10327 | From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Subject: Re: ATF BURNS DIVIDIAN RANCH! NO SURVIVORS!!!
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Lines: 56
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: dale.handheld.com
In article <C5tEnu.112F@ns1.nodak.edu> green@plains.NoDak.edu (Bill Green)
writes:
> Just to shed some light on the fire, it was widely reported (AP, etc.) that
> there WERE several witnesses to BD folks starting the fires. It has also
> been reported that the fires broke out in several places at once, which
> rules out a Bradley knocking over a lamp, etc. as the cause.
"Widely reported", eh? Remember, this has had a news blackout since day 2.
The FBI is the single, sole, source of these rumors. It may be the truth, but
it may not be. We may never know. We MUST question it, though. Why no media
coverare? What were they hiding?
>
> What I would like to see is some serious discussion of this incident. I
> believe the moves made were right and proper, but I still have some problems
> with some of the tactics. After watching the ABC special on it tonight, as
> well as CNN and Nightline, I question some of the ATF and FBI actions.
>
> 1) Could it have been possible to have taken Koresh outside the compound at
> some time before the Feb. 28th raid?
>
It would seem so.
> 2) Could a further wait have resulted in a different outcome.
>
They would still be alive, today. Another day is another chance.
> 3) Were FBI actions (blaring loudspeakers, etc.) the "right" course of
action?
>
I think it contributed to the outcome. Folks that are sleep deprived tend not
to think clearly
> And a few other questions. Like I said, I believe the actions taken, in
> general, were proper. But I still have some reservations.
>
I feel strongly they were NOT proper.
> One other point, I'm no fan of Janet Reno, but I do like the way she had the
> "balls" to go ahead and take full responsibility. Seems like the waffle boy
> had problems figuring out just where he stood on the issue.
As expected. If it had come out well, he would not have hesitated to take full
credit.
Jim
--
jmd@handheld.com
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"I'm always rethinking that. There's never been a day when I haven't rethought
that. But I can't do that by myself." Bill Clinton 6 April 93
"If I were an American, as I am an Englishman, while a foreign troop was landed
in my country, I never would lay down my arms,-never--never--never!"
WILLIAM PITT, EARL OF CHATHAM 1708-1778 18 Nov. 1777
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10328 | From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Subject: DESTROYING ETHNIC IDENTITY: TURKS OF GREECE (& Macedonians...)
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world
Lines: 145
In article <C5yC1K.F84@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis ) writes:
>> Sure your memory is weak.
>> Let me refresh your memory (if that's not to late):
>> First of all: it is called ISTANBUL.
>> Let me even spell it for you: I S T A N B U L
> When my grandfather came in Greece, the official name of the city was
> Constantinoupolis.
Are you related to 'Arromdian' of ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism
Triangle?
>Now, read carefully the following, and then speak:
>The recent Helsinki Watch 78 page report, Broken Promises: Torture and
Ditto.
|1|
HELSINKI WATCH: "PROBLEMS OF TURKS IN WESTERN THRACE CONTINUE"
Ankara (A.A) In a 15-page report of the "Helsinki Watch" it is
stated that the Turkish minority in Western Thrace is still faced
with problems and stipulated that the discriminatory policy being
implemented by the Greek Government be brought to an end.
The report on Western Thrace emphasized that the Greek government
should grant social and political rights to all the members of
minorities that are equal to those enjoyed by Greek citizens and
in addition they must recognize the existence of the "Turkish
Minority" in Western Thrace and grant them the right to identify
themselves as 'Turks'.
NEWSPOT, May 1992
|2|
GREECE ISOLATES WEST THRACE TURKS
The Xanthi independent MP Ahmet Faikoglu said that the Greek
state is trying to cut all contacts and relations of the Turkish
minority with Turkey.
Pointing out that while the Greek minority living in Istanbul is
called "Greek" by ethnic definition, only the religion of the
minority in Western Thrace is considered. In an interview with
the Greek newspaper "Ethnos" he said: "I am a Greek citizen of
Turkish origin. The individuals of the minority living in Western
Trace are also Turkish."
Emphasizing the education problem for the Turkish minority in
Western Thrace Faikoglu said that according to an agreement
signed in 1951 Greece must distribute textbooks printed in Turkey
in Turkish minority schools in Western Thrace.
Recalling his activities and those of Komotini independent MP Dr.
SadIk Ahmet to defend the rights of the Turkish minority,
Faikoglu said. "In fact we helped Greece. Because we prevented
Greece, the cradle of democracy, from losing face before European
countries by forcing the Greek government to recognize our legal
rights."
On Turco-Greek relations, he pointed out that both countries are
predestined to live in peace for geographical and historical
reasons and said that Turkey and Greece must resist the foreign
powers who are trying to create a rift between them by
cooperating, adding that in Turkey he observed that there was
will to improve relations with Greece.
NEWSPOT, January 1993
|3|
MACEDONIAN HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVISTS TO FACE TRIAL IN GREECE.
Two ethnic Macedonian human rights activists will face trial in
Athens for alleged crimes against the Greek state, according to a
Court Summons (No. 5445) obtained by MILS.
Hristos Sideropoulos and Tashko Bulev (or Anastasios Bulis)
have been charged under Greek criminal law for making comments in
an Athenian magazine.
Sideropoulos and Bulev gave an interview to the Greek weekly
magazine "ENA" on March 11, 1992, and said that they as
Macedonians were denied basic human rights in Greece and would
field an ethnic Macedonian candidate for the up-coming Greek
general election.
Bulev said in the interview: "I am not Greek, I am Macedonian."
Sideropoulos said in the article that "Greece should recognise
Macedonia. The allegations regarding territorial aspirations
against Greece are tales... We are in a panic to secure the
border, at a time when the borders and barriers within the EEC
are falling."
The main charge against the two, according to the court
summons, was that "they have spread...intentionally false
information which might create unrest and fear among the
citizens, and might affect the public security or harm the
international interests of the country (Greece)."
The Greek state does not recognise the existence of a
Macedonian ethnicity. There are believed to be between 350,000 to
1,000,000 ethnic Macedonians living within Greece, largely
concentrated in the north. It is a crime against the Greek state
if anyone declares themselves Macedonian.
In 1913 Greece, Serbia-Yugoslavia and Bulgaria partioned
Macedonia into three pieces. In 1919 Albania took 50 Macedonian
villages. The part under Serbo-Yugoslav occupation broke away in
1991 as the independent Republic of Macedonia. There are 1.5
million Macedonians in the Republic; 500,000 in Bulgaria; 150,000
in Albania; and 300,000 in Serbia proper.
Sideropoulos has been a long time campaigner for Macedonian
human rights in Greece, and lost his job as a forestry worker a
few years ago. He was even exiled to an obscure Greek island in
the mediteranean. Only pressure from Amnesty International forced
the Greek government to allow him to return to his home town of
Florina (Lerin) in Northern Greece (Aegean Macedonia), where the
majority of ethnic Macedonians live.
Balkan watchers see the Sideropoulos affair as a show trial in
which Greece is desperate to clamp down on internal dissent,
especially when it comes to the issue of recognition for its
northern neighbour, the Republic of Macedonia.
Last year the State Department of the United States condemned
Greece for its bad treatment of ethnic Macedonians and Turks (who
largely live in Western Thrace). But it remains to be seen if the
US government will do anything until the Presidential elections
are over.
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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10329 | From: adriene_nazaretian@qm.yale.edu (Adriene Nazaretian)
Subject: Re: win nt
Nntp-Posting-Host: gorgon.cis.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University; New Haven, Connecticut USA
Lines: 22
In article <1pq66v$kkt@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, raymaker@bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Raymaker) says:
>
>Is anyone aware of existing ipx/netx software for WindowsNT or
>is attachment to Netware a FUTURE release?
>please respond to internet mail: raymaker@bcm.tmc.edu
>thanks
>
I believe the beta version of the service is available via ftp on
ftp.cica.indiana.edu
in pub/pc/win3/nt called something like nwnt.zip
There is an INDEX ascii file there, which lists the programs in that directory
and what they do.
unfortunately this beta will also disable netbeui and tcp/ip over your
primary nic, so if you really want to run it, get yourself an extra nic and
bind it to that.
Otherwise wait for next release, like I am.
Adriene
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10330 | From: rind@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu (David Rind)
Subject: Re: centrifuge
Organization: Beth Israel Hospital, Harvard Medical School, Boston Mass., USA
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Distribution: usa
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In article <C5JsM5.Hrs@lznj.lincroftnj.ncr.com> rjf@lzsc.lincroftnj.ncr.com
(51351[efw]-Robert Feddeler(MT4799)T343) writes:
>: Could somebody explain to me what a centrifuge is and what it is
>: used for? I vaguely remembre it being something that spins test tubes
>: around really fast but I cant remember why youd want to do that?
>Purely recreational. They get bored sitting in that
>rack all the time.
No, this is wrong. The purpose is to preserve the substances in
the tubes longer by creating relativistic speeds and thus
time dilatation. Of course, by slowing the subjective time of
the test tubes they get less bored, which is probably what you
were thinking of.
--
David Rind
rind@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu
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10331 | From: marc@yogi.austin.ibm.com (Marc J. Stephenson)
Subject: Re: Astros Are Back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM, Austin
Lines: 63
In article <15APR199311534452@rosie.uh.edu> st1rp@rosie.uh.edu (Schwam, David S.) writes:
>In article <C5HHwv.CvK@austin.ibm.com>, marc@yogi.austin.ibm.com (Marc J. Stephenson) writes...
>> 2) Astros relief corps holding together. If Doug Jones keeps his changeup
>> effective and Xavier Hernandez can be effective, then it's passable.
>> There's no reasonable left-handed help, and the middle relief is iffy.
>> Tom Edens was expected to take over the Joe Boever setup man role, but
>> he's been injured, and he was an expansion team acquisition anyway.
>> Houston thought that Boever would demand too much money, so they let him
>> go. Doug Jones can lose his touch - he went from Cleveland's all-star
>> closer to the minors in a pretty short span.
>
> From what I understand, Boever and Murphy were considered expendable by the
^^^^^^
>club. Houston felt that their positions could be filled by a number of
>players.. Art Doug Jones is the key to Houston's success. He must have
>another great year for Houston to challenge in the NL West.
No argument at all with Murphy. He scared the hell out of me when he came in
last year. On the other hand, the club though enough of Boever to put him into
an awful lot of games (he may have led the league in appearances - he did at
least at some point). He seemed to be a very viable setup guy - but I guess
that's not considered that crucial by the club. I can just remember two years
ago so well, though...
...
> The unsuspected strength of the lower part of the order has saved the
> club so far. Biggio and Finley just aren't doing their job of getting
> on base. Instead of filling his role as an RBI man, Bagwell has had to
> assume Biggio and Finley's job. Biggio concerns me, since he usually
> starts the season very strong.
I'm not that concerned. Those guys have been relatively consistent over the
years and they have no good reasons to decline (no injuries, not old, ...).
I expect them to come through just fine. It's those guys that have not
been consistently good that are the worrisome part, even if they are coming
through right now.
> * * * * * *
>
> On a side note, are you at all concerned with the rumors concerning
>next year's uniform? There is talk that their road uniform will be
>(blech..) traditional grey, with the word "HOUSTON" written across the
>chest. If I'm not mistaken, their home uniforms may totally eliminate
>the color orange (shiver..). McLane's favorite color is red, so...
This sounds like their old road unis. Pretty dull. Buttons or pullovers?
I'll check through my uniform book to see if they've always had some orange.
> I'm really upset.. the current unforms are dull and the new ones sound
>horrible. I'd like to see the uniform of the mid-1980s return. They
>may not have been pretty, but Houston had established a long precident of
>wearing the ugliest uniforms in baseball -- and I liked it.
Well, we'll see. I've got a Astros pullover shirt with the "Astros stripes"
across the shoulders and I have trouble making myself wear it in public. i
can see why they might want that to change. Gee, if they eliminate the
orange, will they reupholster the seats in the Astros stripes section (what
used to be the gold and yellow levels - I don't know those numbers they use
now).
I saw a pinstripe version of an Astros cap and I actually thought it looked
good!
--
Marc Stephenson IBM AWS (Advanced Workstations & Systems - Austin,TX)
DISCLAIMER: The content of this posting is independent of official IBM position.
INTERNET->marc@austin.ibm.com VNET: MARC at AUSVMQ IBM T/L: 678-3189
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10332 | From: pavalin@bnr.ca (Paul Valin)
Subject: Re: Canadiens - another Stanley Cup???
Nntp-Posting-Host: bcarm4b8
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
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In article <1993Apr6.044045.5215@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca>,
maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) wrote:
>
> In <rauser.734062534@sfu.ca> rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:
>
>>pereira@CAM.ORG (Dean Pereira) writes:
>
>
>>> With the kind of team Montreal has now, they can take the
>>>cup easily. The only problem they have right now is that everyone is
>>>trying to steal the show and play alone. They need some massive teamwork.
>
>This is known as the Savard syndrome - and we are talking Denis, not Serge.
>No team will ever win squat with the likes of Denis Savard in their lineup.
>
>
>They could tell Savard to stay home and watch the games on TV.
If life were so simple! Savard has not played in three of the last
four games and they are still playing like crap. Montreal's problems
run deeper than Savard (and Mouton) unfortunately; I hope they can
get their act together before the playoffs.
The line-up in their game coming up against PittsburgH is said to be
the one they're likely to use for the playoffs. Let's hope they can
forget about the nice weather we're having and play hockey.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Paul Valin Tel: + 1 613 763 7394
Bell-Northern Research Ltd. Email: pavalin@bnr.ca
P.O. Box 3511, Station C
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1Y 4H7 'only my opinions...'
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10333 | From: marka@amber.ssd.csd.harris.com (Mark Ashley)
Subject: Re: Easter: what's in a name? (was Re: New Testament Double Stan
Organization: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
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In article <Apr.13.01.04.21.1993.686@athos.rutgers.edu> dsegard@nyx.cs.du.edu (Daniel Segard) writes:
> seanna@bnr.ca (Seanna (S.M.) Watson) asks:
> > What is the objection to celebration of Easter?
> The objection naturally is in the way in which you phrase it.
>Easter (or Eashtar or Ishtar or Ishtarti or other spellings) is the pagan
>whore goddess of fertility.
> > It is celebration of the resurrection of Jesus.
> No, you are thinking perhaps of "Ressurection Sunday" I think.
Tsk.tsk. Too much argument on non-issues !
I'm Roman Catholic and it seems to me that people
celebrate Easter and Christmas for itself rather
than how it relates to Jesus. I don't really
care about some diety. If people have some other
definition of Easter, then that's their business.
Don't let it interfere with my Easter.
"Resurrection Sunday" 8-) Where did that come from ?
If people celebrate Easter for the Cadburry bunny,
that's their business.
> > So from this I infer that there are different rules for
> > Christians of Jewish descent? What happened to "there is
> > neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for
> > all are one in Christ Jesus"?
I've always been curious about this. Is Jesus important
to Jews at all ? I thought He was thought of only
as a prophet ? If that's true what do they celebrate
Easter for ?
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10334 | From: barnett@grymoire.crd.ge.com (Bruce Barnett)
Subject: Re: Title for XTerm
In-Reply-To: lanzo@tekelec.com's message of Thu, 22 Apr 1993 17:35:46 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host: grymoire.crd.ge.com
Reply-To: barnett@crdgw1.ge.com
Organization: GE Corp. R & D, Schenectady, NY
<C5oL74.3B1@aeon.in-berlin.de> <1993Apr22.173546.5198@gecko.uucp>
In article <1993Apr22.173546.5198@gecko.uucp> lanzo@tekelec.com (Mark Lanzo) writes:
[Hint for Sun OS users: use /usr/5bin/echo instead of
/bin/echo or Csh's built-in echo. Otherwise you'll have
to embed literal ESC and BEL characters in the string
instead of using convenient octal sequences.]
Bad idea. using /usr/5bin/echo is slower than the built-in echo.
This is what I do. It does execute `hostname` once per shell window,
and does read in one extra file. But manipluating the titles does not
require executing extra programs.
Oh yes, it does execute some programs once per each system.
But it stores them in a file for the next time...
if ( ! $?HOSTNAME ) then
setenv HOSTNAME `hostname`
endif
# figure how how to generate escape, bell,
# and echo commands without a a line terminator
# I may have done this before. If so, the variable E is set
# have I executed this script before on this system?
if ( $?E ) then
# echo "already set the echo variables">/dev/tty
else if ( -f ~/.echo.${HOSTNAME} ) then
source ~/.echo.${HOSTNAME}
else if ( `echo -n |wc -l` == 0 ) then
# echo "built in echo is bsd" >/dev/tty
# then berkeley style echo
echo 'set ech = "echo -n"' >~/.echo.${HOSTNAME}
echo "set E = `echo a | tr a '\033'`" >> ~/.echo.${HOSTNAME}
echo "set B = `echo a | tr a '\007'`" >> ~/.echo.${HOSTNAME}
echo 'set N = ""' >> ~/.echo.${HOSTNAME}
source ~/.echo.${HOSTNAME}
else
# echo "built in echo is sysV" >/dev/tty
echo 'set ech = "echo"' >~/.echo.${HOSTNAME}
echo 'set E = "\033"' >> ~/.echo.${HOSTNAME}
echo 'set B = "\007"' >> ~/.echo.${HOSTNAME}
echo 'set N = "\c"' >> ~/.echo.${HOSTNAME}
source ~/.echo.${HOSTNAME}
endif
# Are we using shelltool, cmdtool or xterm?
# duplicate these aliases here to avoid problems
if ( $term =~ sun* ) then
# Sun Aliases
alias Header '${ech} "${E}]l\!:1${E}\${N}"'
alias IHeader '${ech} "${E}]L\!:1${E}\${N}"'
else if ( $term =~ xterm ) then
alias Header '${ech} "${E}]2;\!:1${B}${N}"'
alias IHeader '${ech} "${E}]1;\!:1${B}${N}"'
endif
--
Bruce Barnett <barnett@crd.ge.com> uunet!crdgw1!barnett
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10335 | From: croley@magic.mcc.com (David Croley)
Subject: Re: new encryption
Organization: MCC Experimental Systems Lab
Lines: 48
In article <1993Apr21.225435.6292@wam.umd.edu>, psionic@wam.umd.edu (Haywood J. Blowme) writes:
|> As promised, I spoke today with the company mentioned in a Washington
|> Times article about the Clipper chip announcement. The name of the company
|> is Secure Communications Technology (Information will be given at the end
|> of this message on how to contact them).
|>
|> ...
|>
|> His belief is that AT&T was made known of the clipper well before the
|> rest of the industry. This is for several reasons, several of which are:
|>
This is a very good point. AT&T obviously knew and participated in the
development of the Clipper chip. This amounts to unfair business practice and
gives AT&T an early monopoly on the market [hopefully a non-existant market].
Other companies that compete with AT&T in the cellular market (Motorola, NEC, etc)
have grounds to file a complaint over this.
|>
|> Right now the company is afraid that the new clipper chip will put them out
|> of business. This is a very real possibility. So they really need help in
|> stopping the clipper chip from becoming a standard. If you want to contact
|> them, they can be reached at..
|>
|> Secure Communications Technology
|> 8700 Georgia Ave. Suite 302
|> Silver Spring, MD
|>
|> (301) 588-2200
|>
|> ...
It would seem that the one fact that the government has overlooked in this
whole fiasco is the economic standpoint. As others have mentioned, the most
difficulty the Clipper chip faces is an economic one. Let's face it, the
average consumer doesn't care or know that the Clipper is a bad idea. If
there is a perceived need for cellular encryption, then the companies will
provide one. Most likely, a standard will emerge. But if the Clipper is
too expensive (and $25 a chip is way too much) then they will develope their
own or buy a cheaper one. I give SCT my full support, and hope the
Clipper chip goes the way of the Beta video tape format.
Also hope they get sued over re-using the name Clipper.
--
---------------------------------------Cyberspace:--------------------------
| David T. Croley | MCC - Exp Sys Lab | A place not real, no stone, no steel.|
| croley@mcc.com | UT Austin, Texas | A ghost unseen...the world "between".|
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
10336 | From: e-sink@uiuc.edu (Eric W. Sink)
Subject: Re: Looking for WMF Converter
Keywords: WMF, windowsmetafile
Reply-To: e-sink@uiuc.edu
Originator: sink@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 19
buck@HQ.Ileaf.COM (David Buchholz x3252) writes:
>I'm looking for any leads to the source of a good Windows
>Meta File converter or interpreter. I need this for use
>outside the Windows environment. PD sources preferred, but
>not a requirement. Please reply to the address below.
On a related topic, I have been searching (with no success)
for a specification of the Enhanced Metafile format. I have
the original WMF format (Graphics File Formats, Levine et al),
but no info on the 32 bit version.
Any pointers ?
--
Eric W. Sink, Spyglass | "In all the earth, only humans have the ability
1800 Woodfield Drive | to be content in bad situations...
Savoy, IL 61826 | and vice-versa."
---- e-sink@uiuc.edu ---------|---------- 217-355-6000 -----------------------
|
10337 | From: paj@uk.co.gec-mrc (Paul Johnson)
Subject: Re: sore throat
Reply-To: paj@uk.co.gec-mrc (Paul Johnson)
Organization: GEC-Marconi Research Centre, Great Baddow, UK
Lines: 29
In article <47835@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> wsun@jeeves.ucsd.edu (Fiberman) writes:
>I have had a sore throat for almost a week. When I look into
>the mirror with the aid of a flash light, I see white plaques in
>the very back of my throat (on the sides). I went to a health
>center to have a throat culture taken. They said that I do not
>have strep throat. Could a viral infection cause white plaques
>on the sides of my throat?
First, I am not a doctor. I know about this because I have been
through it.
It sounds like tonsilitis (lit. swollen tonsils). Feel under your jaw
hinge for a swelling on each side. If you find them, its tonsilitis.
I've had this a couple of times in the past. The doctor prescribed a
weeks course of penicillin and that cleared it up.
In my case it was associated with glandular fever, which is a viral
infection which (from my point of view) resembled flu and tonsilitis
that kept coming back for a year or so. There is a blood test for
this.
In conclusion, see a doctor (if you have not done so already).
Paul.
--
Paul Johnson (paj@gec-mrc.co.uk). | Tel: +44 245 73331 ext 3245
--------------------------------------------+----------------------------------
These ideas and others like them can be had | GEC-Marconi Research is not
for $0.02 each from any reputable idealist. | responsible for my opinions
|
10338 | From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Subject: Re: GGRRRrrr!! Cages double-parking motorc
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Lines: 32
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com
In article 1@cs.cmu.edu, jfriedl+@RI.CMU.EDU (Jeffrey Friedl) writes:
>egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
>|>
>|> An apartment complex where I used to live tried this, only they put the
>|> thing over the driver's window, "so they couldn't miss it."
>
>I can see the liability of putting stickers on the car while it was moving,
>or something, but it's the BDI that chooses to start and then drive the car
>in a known unsafe condition that would (seem to be) liable.
An effort was made to remove the sticker. It came to pieces, leaving
most of it firmly attached to the window. It was dark, and around
10:00 pm. The sticker (before being mangled in an ineffective attempt
to be torn off) warned the car would be towed if not removed. A
"reasonable person" would arguably have driven the car. Had an
accident occured, I don't think my friend's attorney would have much
trouble fixing blame on the apartment mangement.
As a practical matter, even without a conviction, the cost and
inconvenience of defending against the suit would be considerable.
As a moral matter, it was a pretty fucking stupid thing to do for so
paltry a violation as parking without an authorization sticker (BTW, it
wasn't "somebody's" spot, it was resident-only, but unassigned,
parking).
---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM |and I showed him a picture of you. I said,
DoD #0111 (919)460-8302 |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
(The Grateful Dead) --> |It seemed like the least I could do...
|
10339 | From: pastor@vfl.paramax.com (Jon Pastor)
Subject: Re: Another happy Gateway owner
Nntp-Posting-Host: athansor
Organization: not much...
Lines: 30
In article <1993Apr9.125215.5613@infonode.ingr.com>, kbputt@infonode.ingr.com (Ken Putt) writes:
|> Don't they always? Of course, they're so much more expensive than
|> most other quality competitors,
Like who, f'rinstance? When I bought my system (November), no first, second,
or third tier vendor could touch the price for the hardware/software
combination I got from GW2000.
|> Another good thing I have read in the midst of all the Gateway horror
|> stories:
If you were selling as many systems as fast as GW2000, you'd end up with four
or five pissed-off customers too. And four or five ecstatic ones. And lots
of satisfied ones...
|> they have an excellent return policy!
Don't minimize this; if you buy mail order, it's a good thing to know that
you'll get replacements parts, no questions asked, in a day or two, via FedEx.
|> They're very impressive systems (when they work)
Which they do in the vast majority of cases. Remember that it's only the
people on the tails of the curve who are motivated to write -- the ones who
love it, and the ones who hate it. You don't hear from the folks in the
middle very often...
They have rough edges, no doubt about it; but they give good value per dollar,
and use almost all top-quality components.
|
10340 | From: lady@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Lee Lady)
Subject: Re: Science and Methodology
Summary: Merely avoiding mistakes doesn't get you anywhere.
Organization: University of Hawaii (Mathematics Dept)
Expires: Mon, 10 May 1993 10:00:00 GMT
Lines: 57
In article <1993Apr11.015518.21198@sbcs.sunysb.edu> mhollowa@ic.sunysb.edu
(Michael Holloway) writes:
>In article <C552Jv.GGB@news.Hawaii.Edu> lady@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu
(Lee Lady) writes:
>>I would also like to point out that most of the arguments about science
>>in sci.med, sci.psychology, etc. are not about cases where people are
>>rejecting scientific argument/evidence/proof. They are about cases where
>>no adequate scientific research has been done. (In some cases, there is
>>quite a bit of evidence, but it isn't in a format to fit doctrinaire
>>conceptions of what science is.)
>
>Here it is again. This indicates confusion between "proof" and the process
>of doing science.
You are making precisely one of the points I wanted to make.
I fully agree with you that there is a big distinction between the
*process* of science and the end result.
As an end result of science, one wants to get results that are
objectively verifiable. But there is nothing objective about the
*process* of science.
If good empirical research were done and showed that there is some merit
to homeopathic remedies, this would certainly be valuable information.
But it would still not mean that homeopathy qualifies as a science. This
is where you and I disagree with Turpin. In order to have science, one
must have a theoretical structure that makes sense, not a mere
collection of empirically validated random hypotheses.
Experiment and empirical studies are an important part of science, but
they are merely the culmination of scientific research. The most
important part of true scientific methodology is SCIENTIFIC THINKING.
Without this, one does not have any hypotheses worth testing. (No,
hypotheses do not just leap out at you after you look at enough data.
Nor do they simply come to you in a flash one day while you're shaving or
looking out the window. At least not unless you've done a lot of really
good thinking beforehand.)
The difference between a Nobel Prize level scientist and a mediocre
scientist does not lie in the quality of their empirical methodology.
It depends on the quality of their THINKING.
It really bothers me that so many graduate students seem to believe that
they are doing science merely because they are conducting empirical
studies. And it bothers me even more that there are many fields, such as
certain parts of psychology, where there seems to be no thinking at all,
but mere studies testing ad hoc hypotheses.
And I'm especially offended by Russell Turpin's repeated assertion that
science amounts to nothing more than avoiding mistakes. Simply avoiding
mistakes doesn't get you anywhere.
--
In the arguments between behaviorists and cognitivists, psychology seems
less like a science than a collection of competing religious sects.
lady@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu lady@uhunix.bitnet
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10341 | From: xray@is.rice.edu (Kenneth Dwayne Ray)
Subject: Re: Car Stereo Stolen?
Organization: Rice University
Lines: 31
> I had the front panel of my car stereo stolen this weekend.
> I need to buy the front panel of a Sony XR-U770 car stereo.
> If by any chance anyone has had the body of a Sony XR-U770
> stolen and has an otherwise useless front panel I would
> love to buy it from you.
> If you know anyone who had a removeable-front-panel car stereo
> stolen from them, could you please forward this message to them?
> Thanks!
> Kris
I was my understanding that the purpose of those removeable-front-panels
were to make the radio useless, and thus discourage theft (that is if the
cover were removed by the owner and taken along whenever the car was left.)
If those covers were sold for anything remarkably less than the radio
originally costs, or even sold at all,
then the above discouragement wouldn't be so great.
I personally would be unhappy, if I bought a radio like that, thinking that
removing the cover greatly depreciated the radio's value, and the covers were
sold by the company (or other legitimate source) cheaply.
--
--------8<-------If you cut here, you'd ruin your monitor------8<-------
Kenneth D. Ray Expert: Someone who knows more and more
CRC OCIS about less and less and finally
Rice University knows everything about nothing.
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10342 | From: cliff@buster.stafford.tx.us (Cliff Tomplait)
Subject: Re: sex problem.
Organization: Buster irby
Lines: 34
ls8139@albnyvms.bitnet (larry silverberg) writes:
>I have question that I hope is taken seriously, despite the subject content.
>Problem: My long time girlfriend lately has not been initiating any sexual
> activity. For the last four months things have changed dramatically.
> ...
> --to make this shorter-- Summary: nothing that I can think of has
> changed....
> ...
>She suggested we go to a sex counselor, but I really don't want to (just yet).
>Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>If you think you can help me, please contact me by e-mail for further info.
>PLEASE serious replies only.
>Thanks, Larry
Larry:
The subject content IS serious; as is the question.
On one hand you state that "things have changed dramatically" but, at the
same time nothing you "can think of has changed". Your girlfriend seems
to want to see a counselor, but you don't.
I'd recommend that you examine your hesitation to see a counselor. It's
a very good environment to examine issues.
The fact of the matter is: your girlfriend has a different perception than
you. The TWO of you need to address the issue in order to resolve it.
Please consider going to a counselor with your girlfriend. What could it
possibly hurt?
Cliff (the paramedic)
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10343 | From: terryh@cae.wisc.edu (Terry Henning)
Subject: Help with a Windows drum machine!
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Lines: 21
Hello,
I'm trying to get a drum program to work that I downloaded from
ftp.cica.indiana.edu in the pub/pc/win3/sounds directory. It's called
drum.zip.
I have an ATI Stereo FX card with the latest Windows drivers installed.
When I try to run the drum program, it reports that a MIDI device is not
installed, however the drivers utility in the control panel reports that it
is installed.
Anyone have any idea how to set up the MIDI device so that the drum program
will work with my setup? What I'm trying to do is use my computer as a
metronome. Someone suggested that I try one of the drum machines that are
circulating around out there. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Terry
terryh@cae.wisc.edu
|
10344 | From: dmcaloon@tuba.calpoly.edu (David McAloon)
Subject: PLANETS STILL: IMAGES ORBIT BY ETHER TWIST
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Lines: 234
ETHER IMPLODES 2 EARTH CORE, IS GRAVITY!!!
This paper BOTH describes how heavenly bodys can be stationary,
ether sucking structures, AND why we observe "orbital" motion!!
Ether, the theoretical propogation media of electro-magnetic
waves, was concluded not to exist, based on the results of the
Michelson-Moreley experiment conducted a century ago.
I propose that those conclusions are flawed, based on the fact
that the experiment was designed to look for a flow parallel to the
earth's surface, not perpindicular. (Due to the prevailing assumption
that the earth traveled through the ether as a ball through the wind)
The reversal of the that conclusion, a pivotal keystone in the
development of modern scientific thought, could have ramifications
of BIBLICAL proportions through out the WORLD!!
REMEMBER: Einstien said Imagination is greater than knowledge!!
1
I dream like this: ether based reality
The ether is like a fluid out of phase with our reality. Creations
start as a lattice placed into the ether. Given a spin, the lattices
both drag the fluid, like a margarita blender, and ingest it,
converting it, distilling localized mass, time and energy.
(non-spinning lattice = "dark matter")
The earth isn't exactly spinning, around the sun. Picture an image
of a galaxy; we haven't any videos of them spinning. Picture us
being stationary, and the sun's image being dragged across the sky by
the spinning ether field. (Picture an onion, each layer of which is
spinning a little faster than the next. A thread shot at the inner
kernel would be stretched diagonally sideways, its head being in a
faster shell than its tail, until it finally intersected the ground
of the inner kernel, its direction vector being straight down, but
its "foot print" being a line, not a point. [sunrise, sunset])
The moon isn't exactly orbiting us. It is a parasite, (non self
spin sustaining ) being dragged in the earth's ether field, which is
itself in the sun's much more powerful field. Our seasons are the
wobble of earth's axis, like a top slowing down. The "orbit" of the
earth around the sun is all of the stars' images being dragged around
by the sun's ether feild.
The earth, moon and sun are about the same size and "distance"
apart. Its just that the time between them varies greatly, because
the "path" is not the same. The moon's lattice in the ether is like
sticking a fork in a plate of spaghetti and giving the plate a half
turn. The sun's lattice has so much spin that its like the fork has
got the whole plate of noodles wound up. The piece of light going to
the moon can slide down the spaghetti and maybe make a "j" hook at
the end. The piece of light going to the sun has to go around the
whole plate, like a needle in a record, before it gets there.
With a pencil, compass, and rule, draw a diagram of how the moon
can be about as big as "earth's" shadow upon it, and at other times
totally eclipse the sun. Look in the sky. except for your Knowledge,
would you guess that they are about the same size, just because they
look about the same size?
O . - - E O O O S
E / \
M | | OR M
\ _ _ /
S
The full moon, quarter moon etc. is the difference between rate
of ether spins. What we are looking at is a rotating "turntable view"
of the moon, only half of which is facing the sun. ( I've seen a
half moon within about 120 degrees (of sky) of the sun, during the
day. Try and draw that "earth shadow.") Its only the moon's image
which appears to orbit us. No matter where it is, the light part is
the part facing the sun, and the dark part is the half facing away
from the sun, even when it appears to be behind us.
"Light-Years" between galaxies is a misnomer. The distance is
closer to zero, as time and matter are characteristics of this phase
of reality, which dissipates outward with each layer of the onion.
(defining edge = 0 ether spin) What we are seeing could be
essentially happening now. The "piece" of light may have experienced
many years, but the trip could be very quick, our time.
To time travel or warp space I might consider learning to
de-spin myself. (phase out my mass) Good luck trying to design
a propulsion system to drag around a space-time locality. (its like
trying to move a balloon by shooting a squirt gun from within)
To find out about all of this, I recommend studying history. I'd
look in the book of life. (or holy grail etc.) Brain waves just
might carry decipherable data. I'd start looking on some part of the
spectra said to be unusable, due to all the background noise. (4+
billion humans?) I'd totally isolate myself, record me thinking DOG
backwards, and learn to read what I got. (Microsoft Holy Grail card
for Pentium!)
Next, concluding that my thoughts were recorded on a non time-bound
media, the ether, and that it is I who move forward (in time). I
would try to temporarily locally reverse the flow, (of time, which
I'd start looking for as flowing opposite magnetism, pole to pole.
[Why not?]) perhaps by passing a LARGE, FLAT DC current through a
two foot diameter. coil or choke or something, and seeing what I
could get with my machine's receiver next to it.
If you don't think you'll live to see it, consider this: QUIT
PUTTING THE REPRODUCTIVE KEYS OF OTHER LIFE IN YOUR BODY! All of
life's data could be written on the wind, (ether) not just our
thoughts. DNA could be a little receiver or file access code. By
eating SEEDS, we could be jamming our reception, or receiving plant
instructions. Try eating seed bearing fruit. Maybe those Greek or
biblical guys did live hundreds of years. I'm curios to see what
they did and ate. Don't worry if your hair stops growing. (Maybe we
don't need to eat at all, the cosmos are formed from nothing, and
that is creating matter! I only need enough to bounce around. Where
did the household concept 'immortal' come from? Wheat is a weed, it
is programmed to pull from the soil, reproduce like hell, and then
die)
Warning about writing to the past:
I had a little dream of being in a world, in the near parallel
future, lying along a path of history which we have diverged from.
There were; twelve telepathic, glowing beings, who looked like an
Oscar award and who had always been, a dark one who looked like us,
and then myself. The dark one was in the process of making the
others into gods, (he had to teach them what that meant) by
"advising" them in their past. Basically, he manipulated them into
reproducing, and raising their children on his seed. He said that
the little ones who looked different were a sub-species, meant to
provide service. He carefully combed through history, rewriting it
in his favor, pulling like a weed anything that compromised his
control. He enticed recruits by sending them his visions, saying
that there was immortality at the end of the road for only twelve
souls: kill or be killed. The amount of control he could exert was
finite, though, as at every change he made, a void would appear in
our reality. The universe one day ended 100 meters from us: it
seemed odd, but we couldn't remember how else it should be. Then
some of the twelve were no more. Finally, when he could prune no
more, and reality stopped just beyond his fingertips, he stepped
through his portal to the past, to bask, over and over, in all that
he had created. I made a few more changes, and lost my body,
existing only on the wind.
MORAL: Its very possible to eliminate from your reality the souls
whose will's are not in harmony with yours (Golden Rule - treat
others as you wish to be treated) I.E., you could end up along a
lonely thread of time with murderers or flowery brown-nosers for
playmates. (its not eternal, there's more than one way back)
Accepting rides to the past:
Once here, the one who looks like us sells rides, he can make you a
Prince, or a Queen, or you can live as a god in ancient Greece. Go
ahead, repeat the third grade as often as you like, Adam henry.
I Hope you like inspecting your socks. Careful though, if he likes
your work, but thinks you're getting wise, he can direct you to cross
paths with your old self, and you'll vanish as you rewrite your own
course of history, none the wiser.
As we pass the point along the parallel line where he stepped
back in time, his hierarchy will lose its direction. He can still
make changes while he's here, its just that that is work, and with
every 'adjustment', this becomes less the world he cultivated, which
loosens his grip, and his organization is suddenly one branch less.
But he can't see the change. The basic nature of man is good. He had
to apply his hand to achieve his world. As he now tightens his hand
to retain what he built, the more sand slips through his fingers.
How about public computer access to the I.R.S. ? Its our country,
our money, and they're spending it on us, RIGHT? Imagine this:
Washington marks the next cost at 8, IRS collects 10, gives 5 to
congress, and just absolutely buries 5. Congress borrows 2. The banks
are making, what, a 30% margin (interest) on our government? Big
corporations are ecstatic if they can do a 10% margin. What do the
banks do with it? Hold some on a carrot to the world, sure, but
mostly, bury it. WHY? Food production is 2% GNP?, construction 6% ? 14
hours to build your auto? The people are spending all of their time
to buy back a tenth of what they produce. Have we been deceived? If
we are more efficient, why is it getting harder to get by? What if
the point is just to keep the people busy making widgets?
In that other reality, I shouted to the twelve, "its chaos!" They
said, "no, its order." He defined chaos as that which is he was not
able to control.
Rain forest: The problem could be that all the water in its canopy
would hide the location of an indigenous people who have no
language. (telepathic; and 'vanishing' the closest knowledge of death)
(think of the spine as a transceiver, if it is on the ground and
pointed up, you can locate it from above) These people are probably
naive as children, but very, very tough to kill. Also, They should
be able to tell you stories about the dark one that I talk about.
They can hear him. I think that Ham and world band radio old timers
might have a story to tell on this. These people would be on a
different frequency than us as they aren't eating seeds.
Famine relief: When I make my diet almost all whole wheat, I get a
huge belly, lose muscle mass, sleep A LOT, and get sick. When I eat
only fresh fruit, I get more energy, a Hollywood-flat belly, and
need a lot less sleep.
UN. Peace Keeping; There is fighting and killing all over. The
troops go in when there is no bread on the shelf. (its OK to kill
each other, just make sure there is enough to eat.)
Somalia: What is disturbing is energetic, gun carrying, three foot
tall sixteen year-olds, who eat nothing but some roots that they
suck on. It is not so much that their growth is stunted, it is that
they aren't dying at a rate of 50 of 60 years per life.
Women with children, Babes in arms: Historical references to women
and children as a single unit could mean that infants were not cut
from the umbilical cord. (and hence, were not breast fed) I think
that there may be some very interesting results to this, such as
mother-child telepathy, and blue blooded infants. There are examples
of this practice in the aquatic mammal kingdom to investigate.
That guy is the master of illusion, and the ultimate liar. He
tells it first, and then just follows the thread of time in which
the people are willing to buy it. (in which he can make it so) He'll
play a poker face up until he thinks he's cornered, and then he'll
whine, beg and grovel. All it means to him is that you're willing to
live on the ground work that he has laid, that is, that he was
right, and he didn't over play his hand, and he won't need to go
back and try another thread of time. You have ultimate control over
your destiny, just don't live along a path that leads to a reality
in which you don't want to be a part of.
I don't claim to be the first to think these things, its just
that the others could have been 'pruned' from our path. Maybe these
thoughts given to me were laid down on the track of time, after him.
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10345 | From: tomb@hplsla.hp.com (Tom Bruhns)
Subject: Re: Trace size for a 15 Amp supply
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Lines: 34
acollins@uclink.berkeley.edu (Andy Collins) writes:
>How thick do I need to make a PCB trace for 15 Amps of current? and
>Does anybody have any other thoughts on the process (what kind of PCB
>to use, materials, thickness of copper, any advice graciously accepted)?
In four replies, I've seen no hard numbers, so here goes: For traces
on the outside (not inner layers), expect, in 1 oz copper, at 15 amps,
the following temperature rises versus width. This is from Sams'
"Reference Data for Engineers," seventh edition, Pg 5-30, which claims
in turn to be from MIL-STD-275C...
width Temp rise
inches degrees C
------ ---------
.125 100
.15 75
.17 60
.20 45
.24 30
.33 20
At 10 amps, the rise for the .125 width is only about 30 degrees.
Power goes as square of the current, plus the copper resistance goes
up as temperature goes up... Certainly .20" (~5mm) traces should be
ample for what you want to do. And 2 ounce copper almost cuts the
required width in half. (I'd do 2 oz at about 0.08" width myself,
I think...given that the _rated_ current is 10 amps and the 15 is
a transient or fault condition.)
(There's another question: will the voltage drop be low enough?
But you should be able to figure this one out with wire tables or
just the resistivity of copper. Keep traces short and use separate
sensing traces where appropriate, as mentioned by another poster.)
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10346 | From: suraj@apollo.cs.jhu.edu (Suraj Surendrakumar)
Subject: !!!!!!!>> NEW STEREO SYSTEM FOR SALE <<!!!!!!!!
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University CS Department
Distribution: usa
Lines: 29
10 month old stereo system for sale. Luxman R-351 receiver, Onkyo TA-RW404
tape deck, and Polk Monitor M4.6 book shelf speakers are for sale. Receiver
has 5 year warranty, and all equipment is in excellent condition. Paid $950
for the system and willing to consider the best offer. Will sell seperate
pieces also if desired. Please send best offer to suraj@cs.jhu.edu.
Speakers: Polk Monitor M4.6 bookshelf speakers
Paid $250 pair. Willing to consider best offer.
Receiver: Luxman R-351 receiver with 5 year (yes 5 years) warranty.
Paid $475. Willing to consider best offer.
Full remote, 2 pairs of speaker connections,
60 watts per channel, but drives like a 150 watts per channel
Has all the standard features, and more.
Tape Deck: Onkyo TA-RW404 tape deck
Paid $275. Willing to consider best offer.
Dual cassette, Dolby B, C, and HX Pro.
Input level control for recording, auto reverse both sides.
Has all standard features.
Send E-mail with best offer to suraj@cs.jhu.edu
-Suraj
|
10347 | From: jen187@its.CSIRO.AU (Graham Jenkins +61 6 276 6812)
Subject: Re: islamic authority over women
Organization: CSIRO ITS
Lines: 41
In article <1993Apr5.023044.19580@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, snm6394@ultb.isc.rit.edu (S.N. Mozumder ) writes:
|>
|> That's your mistake. It would be better for the children if the mother
|> raised the child.
|>
|> One thing that relates is among Navy men that get tatoos that say "Mom",
|> because of the love of their mom. It makes for more virile men.
|> Compare that with how homos are raised. Do a study and you will get my
|> point.
|>
|> But in no way do you have a claim that it would be better if the men
|> stayed home and raised the child. That is something false made up by
|> feminists that seek a status above men. You do not recognize the fact
|> that men and women have natural differences. Not just physically, but
|> mentally also.
|>
Bobby, there's a question here that I just HAVE to ask. If all
of your posts aren't some sort of extended, elaborate hoax, why
are you trying so hard to convince the entire civilised world
that you're feeble minded? You have a talent for saying the most
absurd things. Here's a little sign for you, print it, cut it out
and put it on top of your computer/terminal.
ENGAGE BRAIN PRIOR TO OPERATING KEYBOARD
(Having said all that, I must admit we all get a laugh from
your stuff.)
--
| Graham Jenkins | graham.jenkins@its.csiro.au |
| CSIRO | (Commonwealth Scientific & Industrial |
| Canberra, AUSTRALIA | Research Organisation) |
|
10348 | From: nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David Nye)
Subject: Re: seizures ( infantile spasms )
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire
Lines: 19
[reply to dufault@lftfld.enet.dec.com (MD)]
>After many metabolic tests, body structure tests, and infection/virus
>tests the doctors still do not know quite what type of siezures he is
>having (although they do have alot of evidence that it is now pointing
>to infantile spasms ). This is where we stand right now....As I know
>now, these particular types of disorders are still not really well
>understood by the medical community.
Infantile spasms have been well understood for quite some time now. You
are seeing a pediatric neurologist, aren't you? If not, I strongly
recommend it. There is a new anticonvulsant about to be released called
felbamate which may be particularly helpful for infantile spasms. As
for learning more about seizures, ask your doctor or his nurse about a
local support group.
David Nye (nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu). Midelfort Clinic, Eau Claire WI
This is patently absurd; but whoever wishes to become a philosopher
must learn not to be frightened by absurdities. -- Bertrand Russell
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10349 | From: panlilio@acs.ucalgary.ca (Victor P. Panlilio)
Subject: Re: Whats this "Thermal Recalibration" on Quantum Drives ?
Summary: Thermal recalibration on hard drives
Article-I.D.: acs.93Apr06.172811.42754
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Lines: 36
Nntp-Posting-Host: acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca
In article <1993Mar26.195307.25146@midway.uchicago.edu> gary@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Whether the drive is hooked up to the computer or not, the LPS240
>makes a "disk seek noise" every 20 seconds. This is consistent
>and will continue as lomg as the drive is powered up. Even if
>I disconnect the drive from the computer, this "drive activity"
>continues at 20 second intervals.
>
>Someone tried to tell me the drive was doing a "Thermal Recalibration".
>
>Not knowing beans about the internal physical workings of the lastest
>disk drive technology.... I guess I might believe anything.
>
>Whats the scoop on this standalone "drive activity" every 20 sec?
I can only comment on thermal recalibration in general. Some new
drives perform it in order to increase overall integrity of data
writes. Basically, the firmware instructs the actuator to perform
a test to see if the data tracks are within a certain physical
tolerance, since when the media heats up or cools down, *some*
track drift is inevitable, and the drive has to monitor it. This
becomes especially critical at very high recording densities, and
so was used primarily on very large-capacity mechanisms, but it
seems to be finding its way into more smaller drives as a way of
boosting the drive's long-term reliability and MTBF ratings.
I first became aware of thermal recalibration when it was pointed
out that the technique conflicts with prolonged write times when
digitizing, say, audio or video to hard disk. Some manufacturers
explicitly state that drives with thermal recalibration are NOT
to be used for applications that have prolonged disk writes.
Hope this helps.
Victor
|
10350 | From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: I've found the secret!
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Lines: 15
Why are the Red Sox in first place? Eight games into the season, they
already have two wins each from Clemens and Viola. Clemens starts
again tonight, on three days rest.
What's up? Are the Sox going with a four-man rotation? Is this why
Hesketh was used in relief last night?
Hm.
Cheers,
-Valentine
P.S. I was wrong. The Sox have already scored 18 runs in two games
this week. They should reach 25 without trouble. I still think it's
a fluke.
|
10351 | From: gregof@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Grego Filippo)
Subject: Info wanted on Tseng Labs ET4000 VLB
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Lines: 9
Hi fellow netters,
does anybody have any info on Tseng Labs ET4000 VLB card:
price, speed, compatibility with existing and up-comming softwares,
performance compared to others cards ( is it an S3 based card ?)....
Thank you..
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10352 | From: bcash@crchh410.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Brian Cash)
Subject: Re: New Member
Nntp-Posting-Host: crchh410
Organization: BNR, Inc.
Lines: 47
In article <C5HIEw.7s1@portal.hq.videocart.com>, dfuller@portal.hq.videocart.com (Dave Fuller) writes:
|> Hello. I just started reading this group today, and I think I am going
|> to be a large participant in its daily postings. I liked the section of
|> the FAQ about constructing logical arguments - well done. I am an atheist,
|> but I do not try to turn other people into atheists. I only try to figure
|> why people believe the way they do - I don't much care if they have a
|> different view than I do. When it comes down to it . . . I could be wrong.
|> I am willing to admit the possibility - something religious followers
|> dont seem to have the capability to do.
Welcome aboard!
|>
|> I notice alot of posts from Bobby. Why does anybody ever respond to
|> his posts ? He always falls back on the same argument:
(I think you just answered your own question, there)
|>
|> "If the religion is followed it will cause no bad"
|>
|> He is right. Just because an event was explained by a human to have been
|> done "in the name of religion", does not mean that it actually followed
|> the religion. He will always point to the "ideal" and say that it wasn't
|> followed so it can't be the reason for the event. There really is no way
|> to argue with him, so why bother. Sure, you may get upset because his
|> answer is blind and not supported factually - but he will win every time
|> with his little argument. I don't think there will be any postings from
|> me in direct response to one of his.
Most responses were against his postings that spouted the fact that
all atheists are fools/evil for not seeing how peachy Islam is.
I would leave the pro/con arguments of Islam to Fred Rice, who is more
level headed and seems to know more on the subject, anyway.
|>
|> Happy to be aboard !
How did you know I was going to welcome you abord?!?
|>
|> Dave Fuller
|> dfuller@portal.hq.videocart.com
|>
|>
Brian /-|-\
|
10353 | From: steveg@cadkey.com (Steve Gallichio)
Subject: Re: Tie Breaker....(Isles and Devils)
Organization: Cadkey, Inc.
Lines: 18
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
Rex Wang (wangr@vccsouth22.its.rpi.edu) spews forth stupidly:
> Are people here stupid or what??? It is a tie breaker, of cause they
> have to have the same record. How can people be sooooo stuppid to put win as
> first in the list for tie breaker??? If it is a tie breaker, how can there be
> different record???? Man, I thought people in this net are good with hockey.
> I might not be great in Math, but tell me how can two teams ahve the same
> points with different record??? Man...retard!!!!!! Can't believe people
> actually put win as first in a tie breaker......
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me that you don't actually ATTEND Rensselaer, and
that you just work for ITS. Or that this was tounge-in-cheek.
Does this mean that I should be cutting off my alumni contributions, or
increasing them?
-SG
|
10354 | From: philly@bach.udel.edu (Robert C Hite)
Subject: Let's Talk Phillies
Nntp-Posting-Host: bach.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Lines: 20
The Phillies salvaged their weekend series against the Chicago Cubs
by beating them 11-10 in a wild one at Wrigley Field Sunday
afternoon. It was the Phils only win in the three game series, and
was the first time the Phillies have lost a series in the young
season. The Phils jumped to a 6-0 lead in the game thanks to 2
John Kruk 2-run homers and two Wes Chamberlain homers. However Danny
Jackson, and the Phillies middle relief was unable to hold the lead.
Mitch Williams entered the game with the Phillies leading 8-4,
however Candy Maldonado hit a ninth inning homerun to tie it. In
the 11th, Dave Hollins hit a three-run shot, his first of the year
to push the Phils ahead to stay. However, in a shaky bottom of the
11th the Cubs scored 2 runs and had the tying runner on base when
the Cubs pinch hit Randy Myers for Bob Scanlan (they were out of
position players) and Myers bunted into a double play to end the
game.
The Phils bring their league leading 9-3 record back to action
Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday against the Padres.
|
10355 | From: rmt6r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Roy Matthew Thigpen)
Subject: VIPER
Organization: University of Virginia
Lines: 8
Last night I had a dream that my dad bought a Viper.
I took it out for a test drive, without his knowledge,
and had to push it all the way home just to avoid a ticket.
Wierd dream, I wonder what it means....
Roy.
|
10356 | From: starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Tim Starr)
Subject: Re: With Friends Like These -- L. Neil Smith
Organization: UDel: School of Life & Health Sciences
Lines: 28
In article <C5D05G.6xw@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> papresco@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod) writes:
}In article <1993Apr10.155819.18237@sco.com> allanh@sco.COM (Allan J. Heim) writes:
}>Look, if you can figure out a reliable means of keeping guns away from
}>bad people, while not interfering with good people, I think we'd all be
}>for it. The problem is, the methods we're using now don't do the trick.
}
}Don't manufacture them. Don't sell them. Don't import them.
Japan did this. It required near-total isolation from the rest of the world
for 2 centuries.
}Some guns will get through, but far fewer, and far less people will
}die because of them. Hunting weapons could be allowed, of course, as
}long as they are big, and bulky, and require reloading after a few
}shots (how many times can you shoot at the same animal, anyways One
}assumes they are moving!)
Hunting weapons are great for extortionist sharpshooters. "Send me money or
else I'll pick you off from 2 miles away."
Tim Starr - Renaissance Now!
Assistant Editor: Freedom Network News, the newsletter of ISIL,
The International Society for Individual Liberty,
1800 Market St., San Francisco, CA 94102
(415) 864-0952; FAX: (415) 864-7506; 71034.2711@compuserve.com
Think Universally, Act Selfishly - starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu
|
10357 | From: ragee@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (Randy Agee)
Subject: Radar detector DETECTORS?
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
Lines: 27
Several years back one of the radar detectors manufacturers, in
defiance to Virginia's law against radar detectors, passed out
thousands of fake cardboard radar detectors at truck stops near
the Virginia State lines. At that time there were no radar
detector Detectors! I am not sure of the impact but I would
imagine that enforcement of the law by visually sighting a
radar detector became difficult - if not impossible!
As I said earlier, efforts to throw out or eliminate the VA law
against radar detectors has been in vain. In fact, effective
Jan. 1, 1993, the fine for possession of a radar detector
accessable to the driver of a vehicle in VA is now $250.00.
I have noted an interesting anomality with my Alinco DR-100 2
meter ham transceiver.... It will make a *cheap* radar detector
scream! I am not sure of the range, but it is obvious by the
brake lights that it can be at least 50 feet at 50 watts! :-)
==============================================================================
Randy T. Agee - WB4BZX | At some point, you probably pondered The
P.O. Box 2120 - 20th floor | Meaning of Life, and you came up with a
Virginia Department of Education | satisfactory answer, which has or has not
Richmond, VA 23216-2120 | stood the test of time, or you shrugged
Phone (804) 225-2669 | mightily, muttered "Beats the heck out of
ragee@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu | me," and ordered a cheeseburger.
=============================================================================
|
10358 | From: ghica@fig.citib.com (Renato Ghica)
Subject: seek sedative information
Originator: ghica@cyclops
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Lines: 11
has any one heard of a sedative called "Rhoepnol"? Made by LaRouche,
I believe. Any info as to side effects or equivalent tranquillizers?
thanks....
--
"This will just take a minute."
"I'm 90% done."
"It worked on my machine."
|
10359 | From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi)
Subject: Re: What is going on?...
Lines: 27
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Distribution: inet
In article <gthomas.735070935@sfu.ca>, gthomas@fraser.sfu.ca (Guy Thomas) writes:
> zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi) writes:
>
>>In article <1993Apr16.055100.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>, zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi) writes:
>>...
>>> If you can't be bothered reading, get the video "Manufacturing Consent".
>>>
>
>>In reply to mail queries; I don't know if a video is available yet. I asked
>>about a month ao and was told RSN.
>
> Yes it is. From the National Film Board of Canada.
Ah, not in the USA. Thats a relief, thought 'reality' must be slipping for a
second. :-)
St Noam was on the radio tonight, he has just published a new book "501 years".
Published by South End i guess. Could some bostonian confirm please?
I would love to hear what he thinks of the Clipper scam.
~Paul
PS The first posting I saw I thought was a joke in *VERY* bad taste. My appologies
to the person who broke the news.
|
10360 | From: kmembry@viamar.UUCP (Kirk Membry)
Subject: Re: Rumours about 3DO ???
Reply-To: rutgers!viamar!kmembry
Organization: Private System
Lines: 11
Read Issue #2 of Wired Magazine. It has a long article on the "hype" of
3DO. I've noticed that every article talks with the designers and how
"great" it is, but never show any pictures of the output (or at least
pictures that one can understand)
--
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Kirk Membry "Our Age is the Age of Industry"
rutgers!viamar!kmembry - Alexander Rodchenko
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10361 | From: sieferme@stein.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman)
Subject: Re: 14 Apr 93 God's Promise in 1 John 1: 7
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Lines: 26
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu
In article <f1VMPxk@quack.kfu.com> pharvey@quack.kfu.com (Paul Harvey) writes:
>In article <bskendigC5H4o3.D5p@netcom.com>
>bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig) writes:
>>psyrobtw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert Weiss) writes:
>>> But if we walk in the light,
>>> as he is in the light,
>>> we have fellowship one with another,
>>> and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son
>>> cleanseth us from all sin.
>> It can not be a light which cleanses
>> if it is tainted with the blood
>> of an innocent man.
>
>Human blood sacrifice! Martyrdom of an innocent virgin! "Nailed" to a
>wooden pole! What is this obsession with male menstruation?
Christian: washed in the blood of the lamb.
Mithraist: washed in the blood of the bull.
If anyone in .netland is in the process of devising a new religion,
do not use the lamb or the bull, because they have already been
reserved. Please choose another animal, preferably one not
on the Endangered Species List.
Thank you.
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10362 | From: jbs5g@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (James B. Sheire)
Subject: SCSI Ethernet Converter For Sale
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Lines: 6
I have a strange piece of equipment to unload. It is a Ether+ SCSI interface.
Apparently, it can be plugged into a SCSI port and from there to an ethernet.
That way you save a slot. Nifty. Well, I assume you people know more about it,
so, judging by the $350 price tag new, I'll ask, say, $75? Anybody interested?
|
10363 | From: LLARSEN@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Porsche 928 (Bay Area)
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Lines: 20
Posting this for a friend
Sunnyvale, California
1982 Porsche 928 GTS Package
leather interior
european handling package
sunroof
cruise control
88,000k miles
new paint
Immaculate in every way
********** DELIVERY POSSIBLE TO DESTINATION WITH DEPOSIT ********
$10,000 firm
Low book is 11,500 High book is 16,000
Phone (408) 296-4444 Frank Rosqui
As new this vehicle was $74,000
This posting does not reflect the opinions of my employer
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10364 | From: anello@adcs00.fnal.gov (Anthony Anello)
Subject: HYPOGLYCEMIA
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, Batavia IL
Lines: 14
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: adcs01.fnal.gov
Keywords: 40 BLOODCOUNT DANGEROUS?
Can anyone tell me if a bloodcount of 40 when diagnosed as hypoglycemic is
dangerous, i.e. indicates a possible pancreatic problem? One Dr. says no, the
other (not his specialty) says the first is negligent and that another blood
test should be done. Also, what is a good diet (what has worked) for a hypo-
glycemic? TIA.
Anthony Anello
Fermilab
Batavia, Illinois
--
|
10365 | From: jack@shograf.com (Jack Ritter)
Subject: Help!!
Article-I.D.: shograf.C531E6.7uo
Distribution: usa
Organization: SHOgraphics, Sunnyvale
Lines: 9
I need a complete list of all the polygons
that there are, in order.
I'll summarize to the net.
--------------------------------------------------------
"If only I had been compiled with the '-g' option."
---------------------------------------------------------
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10366 | From: hmarvel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Howard P Marvel)
Subject: Re: your opinion of the LaserWriter Select 310?
Article-I.D.: magnus.1993Apr5.231721.1272
Organization: The Ohio State University
Lines: 12
Nntp-Posting-Host: bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
My wife has one of these. I have not had much chance to fiddle with
it, but in comparison to our Laserwriters with Canon engines, she
complains that the print is too light for her taste. The difference
is quite apparent even when the print setting on the Select 310 is
adjusted to the darkest possible level. I don't find it
objectionable, and indeed rather like it, but be warned that some
people don't care for it and it is considerably different.
I recall that years ago there were lots of debates over write-black
vs. write-white engines when dealing with TeX drivers. Is something
like that going on here?
|
10367 | From: V2110A@VM.TEMPLE.EDU (Richard Hoenes)
Subject: Re: A Message for you Mr. President: How do you know what happened?
Organization: Temple University
Lines: 31
Nntp-Posting-Host: vm.temple.edu
X-Newsreader: NNR/VM S_1.3.2
In article <cjkC5sy5G.Ko4@netcom.com>
cjk@netcom.com writes:
>This was obviously a lot different than the ordinary FBI adventure.
>
>I believe that the Federal officers had a conflict of interests here.
>
>Throught out the whole affair, it seamed to me that they were chiefly
>concerned with saving face rather than saving lifes. Its true that
>The BD were resisting arrest and that they should have surrendered
>when they first realized that these where federal officers. But they
>didn`t.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'saving face' unless you are confusing
the FBI with the BATF who are the ones who were in charge of the
original search warrant.
>But when they didn`t, the FBI should not have treated as a hostage
>situation, it wasn't.
>
>I think more discussions, possible independant negotiators, and
>family intervention should have been used.
>
Independant Negotiators? What was there to negotiate? Any sort of plea
bargin has to be brought to the court, the negotiators can't negotiate
charges or sentences. FBI negotitators did make a deal for the
Dividians to come out. Koresh showed he was not negotiating in good
faith and there is no reason to believe independent negotiators
would have done any better.
Richard
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10368 | Organization: University of Maine System
From: Andrew T. Robinson <ANDY@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Subject: Reasons for hospitals to join Internet?
Lines: 8
What resources and services are available on Internet/BITNET which
would be of interest to hospitals and other medical care providers?
I'm interested in anything relelvant, including institutions and
businesses of interest to the medical profession on Internet,
special services such as online access to libraries or diagnostic
information, etc. etc.
Please reply directly to ANDY@MAINE.EDU
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10369 | From: ethan@cs.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
Subject: Re: Forcing a window manager to accept specific coordinates for a window
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Lines: 18
In article <BADING.93Apr23105229@athene.cs.tu-berlin.de> bading@cs.tu-berlin.de (Tobias 'Doping' Bading) writes:
>
>I know that the mwm has an resource to specify if positions are to be used for
>the border of a window or for the "user" window. Maybe other window managers
>have similar options.
>Another way to figure out the difference between the "user" window position
>and the window manager decoration window position is to subtract their
>positions. You just have to use XQueryTree and remember that the window manager
>decorations window is the parent of your window. Unfortunately, you can only
>figure out the decoration width and height after the window has been mapped
>this way.
>
Another way would be to use GetGeometry to find out where
you are relative to the frame, and TranslateCoordinates to find
out where your window's upperleft corner really is.
-- Ethan
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10370 | From: toelle@uenics.evansville.edu (Chad Toelle)
Subject: Fax software for windows
Organization: University of Evansville
Distribution: usa
Lines: 10
I would like to know about the current fax software available for
Windows. Does it take a 9600 baud fax/modem or 14.4K ? Please
respond with info.
Thank you very much
--
Chad Toelle toelle@evansville.edu
4216 S. St. Philip Rd - or -
Mt. Vernon, IN 47620 uunet!evansville.edu!toelle
(812) 985-3222
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10371 | From: aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer)
Subject: Re: Conference on Manned Lunar Exploration. May 7 Crystal City
Organization: Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow
Distribution: na
Lines: 19
In article <C5rHoC.Fty@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Josh Hopkins) writes:
>I remeber reading the comment that General Dynamics was tied into this, in
>connection with their proposal for an early manned landing. Sorry I don't
>rember where I heard this, but I'm fairly sure it was somewhere reputable.
>Anyone else know anything on this angle?
If by that you mean anything on the GD approach, there was an article on
it in a recent Avation Week. I don't remember the exact date but it was
recent.
Allen
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10372 | From: jfh@rpp386 (John F. Haugh II)
Subject: Re: Representation of Territories? (Was: Re: The $11,250,000,000,000 lunch)
Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II)
Organization: River Parishes Programming, Austin TX
Distribution: tx
Lines: 17
In article <cmi32B1w165w@keys.lonestar.org> cwinemil@keys.lonestar.org (Chris Winemiller) writes:
> Does anyone have knowledge about how this was handled in
>the past, such as with the Louisiana Territory or the Northwest
>Territory?
Those areas became states.
Puerto Rico has the population needed to become a state. But the ethnic
mix there is such that Puerto Rico will probably never become a state.
I say we cut them loose. If they don't want to become a state, we
shouldn't continue to subsidize their existence.
--
John F. Haugh II [ PGP 2.1 ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151 [ DoF #17 ] @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org
Look up "Ponzi Scheme" in a good dictionary - it will have a picture of Joe
Liberal Handout right next to it. Stop federal spending. Cut the deficit.
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10373 | From: choe@dirac.phys.washington.edu
Subject: Need phone number for Western Digital (ESDI problem)
Organization: University of Washington
Lines: 16
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: dirac.phys.washington.edu
Keywords: Western Digital, ESDI
I have WD1007-WA2 ESDI controller with ROM BIOS v.1.1.
It has been working fine until I recently upgraded motherboard to 386-40MHz.
Now, my Maxter drive goes crazy making lots of seeking sound even when the
drive is not accessed. Of course, with numourous hard disk controller errors.
These symptoms disappear when I switch to non-turbo mode (8 MHz).
I suspect some timing dependent Rom Bios routines. (There's a newer version
2.x) Could anybody help me on this?
By the way, my new mother board has AMI Bios, 128k Cache, 8 MHz bus, and
works fine with my old MFM drives (I had to dig them up). :-(
Also, I will appreciate it very much if somebody send me the phone numbers
(tech support/BBS) for Western Digital.
Many thanks in advance.
Jay
--
Physics, UW, Seattle, WA 98195 (206)543-7543 choe@phys.washington.edu
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10374 | From: spinoza@next06wor.wam.umd.edu (Yon Bonnie Laird of Cairn Robbing)
Subject: Re: ISLAM BORDERS. ( was :Israel: misisipi to ganges)
Nntp-Posting-Host: next03wor.wam.umd.edu
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Lines: 20
In article <1993Apr5.183555.20163@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU writes:
>
> In article <4805@bimacs.BITNET>, ehrlich@bimacs.BITNET (Gideon Ehrlich)
writes:
> |>
> |> Hassan and some other seemed not to be a ware that Jews celebrating
on
> |> these days Thje Passover holliday the holidy of going a way from the
> |> Nile.
> |> So if one let his imagination freely work it seemed beter to write
> |> that the Zionist drean is "from the misisipi to the Nile ".
>
> the question is by going East or West from the misisipi. on either
choice
> you would loose Palestine or Broklyn, N.Y.
>
> I thought you're gonna say fromn misisipi back to the misisipi !
>
Nonononnononono....its "From the Nile to the Nile.....the Long way!" ;-)
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10375 | From: hallam@dscomsa.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker)
Subject: Re: Top Ten Comments Overheard in the Secret Service Lounge
Lines: 36
Reply-To: hallam@zeus02.desy.de
Organization: DESYDeutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
In article <1phgakINN9pb@apache.dtcc.edu>, bob@hobbes.dtcc.edu (Bob Rahe) writes:
|>In article <1993Apr2.093952.1149@colorado.edu> ajteel@dendrite.cs.Colorado.EDU (A.J. Teel) writes:
|>
|>> Ed, they are losing their humor. Please take a break until they
|>>get funny again (?), if that is even possible. I liked a few of these,
|>>but that list is not even sarcastic, just insulting and definitely not
|>>one of your best. I look forward to some better lists after a sabatical?
|>>ajteel@dendrite.cs.Colorado.EDU
|>
|> No, they must be working, they are getting lots of these 'complaints'
|>that they are not funny.... Keep 'em coming, it they weren't funny or
|>bothering them they'd just ignore them....
If a six year old child does a funny trick and you say well done he will
do it again and it may be funny. Then they may repeat it over and over
again bu you still have to pretend its funny even though it isn't any
more. Once they are older than six you expect them to realise that doing
the same thing over and over again isn't funny any more.
Basicaly Ed fails to be amusing because he is merely crass. He does not
make jokes that have any political content beyond attempting to ridicule
their target. Calling someone Slick Willie is not funny even if you put
on a red nose while you say it, it was a good debating point used on the
spur of the moment 12 months ago but now its use merely demonstrates that the
user couldn't think of anything original to say.
In the UK there is a tradition of old retired Colnels who bore the dinner
guests rigid with their descriptions of old campagns. Ed is clearly one
of this type of people who fails to see when a joke is spent.
Phill Hallam-Baker
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10376 | From: tph@susie.sbc.com (Timothy P. Henrion)
Subject: Re: Biblical Backing of Koresh's 3-02 Tape (Cites enclosed)
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization
Lines: 32
NNTP-Posting-Host: susie.sbc.com
In article <1993Apr21.093914.1@woods.ulowell.edu> cotera@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
>In article <1r17j9$5ie@sbctri.sbc.com>, netd@susie.sbc.com () writes:
>> In article <20APR199301460499@utarlg.uta.edu> b645zaw@utarlg.uta.edu (stephen) writes:
>>>For those who think David Koresh didn't have a solid structure,
>>>or sound Biblical backing for his hour long tape broadcast,
>>
>> I don't think anyone really cares about the solid structure of his
>> sermon. It's the deaths he's responsible for that concern most people.
>
>I assume you have evidence that he was responsible for the deaths?
Only my common sense. The fire was caused by either Koresh and his
followers or by the FBI/ATF/CIA/KGB/and maybe the Harper Valley PTA. Since
you are throwing around the evidence arguement, I'll throw it back. Can
you prove any government agency did it? (Please don't resort to "they
covered it up so that proves they did it" or any wild theories about how
the government agencies intentionally started the fire. The key words
are proof and evidence.)
proves they did it"
>
>> All that "thou shalt not kill" stuff.
>
>I'd like to point out that the Bible says "Do not commit murder." The NKJ
>translation mistranslates. Self-defense was never considered murder. The
Please explain how Koresh was defending himself from those children who
burned.
--
Tim Henrion Southwestern Bell Technology Resources
thenrion@sbctri.sbc.com
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10377 | From: terziogl@ee.rochester.edu (Esin Terzioglu)
Subject: Re: ARMENIA SAYS IT COULD SHOOT DOWN TURKISH PLANES
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science
In article <1993Apr16.195452.21375@urartu.sdpa.org> dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian) writes:
>04/16/93 1045 ARMENIA SAYS IT COULD SHOOT DOWN TURKISH PLANES
>
Ermenistan kasiniyor...
Let me translate for everyone else before the public traslation service gets
into it : Armenia is getting itchy.
Esin.
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10378 | From: schneier@chinet.chi.il.us (Bruce Schneier)
Subject: ISSA '93 Conference
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Distribution: usa
Lines: 4
If there is anyone attending the ISSA conference in Arlington, VA next
week, I would appreciate them getting in touch with me.
Bruce
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10379 | From: bgardner@pebbles.es.com (Blaine Gardner)
Subject: Re: RGV and posing!!
Nntp-Posting-Host: 130.187.85.70
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Lines: 13
In article <speedy.153@engr.latech.edu> speedy@engr.latech.edu (Speedy Mercer) writes:
>In article <2553@spam.maths.adelaide.edu.au> amydlak@spam.maths.adelaide.edu.au (Adam Mydlak) writes:
>>[Squid deleted]
> 5. Helment laws vary from state to state. In my state (Louisiana) it is
>the law. I personaly, would not go 2 feet on a bike without one law or no
>law. A helment will save your life.
I'll go 2 feet, but I draw the line at 3.
--
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland
bgardner@dsd.es.com
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10380 | From: taihou@chromium.iss.nus.sg (Tng Tai Hou)
Subject: ADB and graphics tablet help!
Organization: Institute Of Systems Science, NUS
Lines: 13
Help!!!
I have an ADB graphicsd tablet which I want to connect to my
Quadra 950. Unfortunately, the 950 has only one ADB port and
it seems I would have to give up my mouse.
Please, can someone help me? I want to use the tablet as well as
the mouse (and the keyboard of course!!!).
Thanks in advance.
Tai Hou TNG
Singapore
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10381 | From: ez027993@dale.ucdavis.edu (Gary The Burgermeister Huckabay)
Subject: Bill James Player Rating Book 1993.
Organization: Harold Brooks Duck L'Orange Club, Ltd.
Lines: 26
(Dave 'This has never happened to me before' Kirsch) writes:
> Correction: "Nied was the only player identified in this book as a grade A
>prospect who was exposed to the draft..", according to Bill James in the
>'Stop the Presses' section preceding his player evaluations. He valued Nied
>at $21, and said that Nied's value does not increase significantly as a
>result of his selection (although he did catch a break getting away from the
>strongest rotation in baseball).
I thought Bill James' latest book completely and totally sucked. I bought
it, but will not purchase anything of his ever again without THOROUGHLY
looking at it first. What tripe.
The book is inconsistent, and filled with selective analysis. James
claims to be looking forward, and then makes some absolutely bizarre
statements of value. Not only that, but I got the impression he
probably glanced at the book for about an hour before he put his name
on it.
To say I was disappointed is a grand understatement.
--
* Gary Huckabay * Kevin Kerr: The Al Feldstein of the mid-90's! *
* "A living argument for * If there's anything we love more than a huge *
* existence of parallel * .sig, it's someone quoting 100 lines to add *
* universes." * 3 or 4 new ones. And consecutive posts, too. *
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10382 | From: Grant@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL (Lynn R Grant)
Subject: Another key registration body bites the dust (IMHO)
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Lines: 46
One of the candidates that has been suggested for a key registration
body is the ACLU. I think this is poor choice. The ACLU is
essentially a group of auditors: they audit how people's civil
liberties are administered. Traditionally, auditors do not like to get
involved in the design or operational aspects of things, and with good
reason.
When I was a systems programmer, it always infuriated me that the
auditors would come in and tell us our implementation stunk from a
security point of view, but wouldn't tell us how to fix it. I always
figured they just liked to critcize, without doing the work to help fix
the problem.
Then I took a stint as an auditor, and I found out the real reason.
Auditors don't like to recommend solutions, because it puts them in a
bad position if they have to criticize the implementation later. The
auditee can say, "Well, you told us this way would be OK." It
compromises the independence that is a necessary part of the auditor's
job.
Taking the case at hand, suppose ACLU becomes a key half registrar.
Suppose that, perhaps through some error on ACLU's part, a key half gets
away that shouldn't, and is used to deprive someone of her civil
liberties. The ACLU gets wind of this, and wants to take it to court.
But they end up being at the same time on the side of the defendant
and of the plaintiff, which is not an easy position to be in.
There are exceptions to the complete independence of auditors: at one
place where I worked, when payroll checks were printed, they were signed
automatically by a signature drum on the bursting machine. This drum
was kept by the auditors (who also kept the check stock), and
was brought down to Data Processing when it was time to do the checks.
I believe the difference between this situation and the key registration
situation is that it is fairly obvious when it is time to do the payroll
checks: if they were done yesterday, and someone wants to do them again
today, he better be able to produce yesterday's checks so that they can
be destroyed. Determining which of the many requests for key halves are
legit is a trickier process, one much more prone to mistakes that could
put the ACLU in a protecting-the-client versus protecting-the-ACLU
conflict of interest.
As always, my opinions are my own.
Lynn Grant
Grant@Dockmaster.NCSC.MIL
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10383 | From: baldwa@antietam.adobe.com (Sanjay Baldwa)
Subject: X support for pressure sensitive tablet
Reply-To: baldwa@adobe.com
Organization: Adobe Systems, Mountain View, CA, USA
Distribution: comp
Lines: 7
Are there any vendors supporting pressure sensitive tablet/pen with X? I
will appreciate any pointers.
Thanks, Sanjay
--
baldwa@adobe.com or ..!decwrl!adobe!baldwa
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10384 | From: mvanheyn@cs.indiana.edu (Marc VanHeyningen)
Subject: RIPEM Frequently Noted Vulnerabilities
Article-I.D.: usenet.C4qoH8.CHE
Expires: Thu, 20 May 1993 00:00:00 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Lines: 163
Content-Type: text/x-usenet-FAQ; version=1.0; title="RIPEM Attacks"
Originator: mvanheyn@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
Supersedes: <C3JvK9.Ey1@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Nntp-Posting-Host: silver.ucs.indiana.edu
Mime-Version: 1.0
Archive-name: ripem/attacks
Last-update: 31 Mar 93 21:00:00 -0500
SOME POSSIBLE ATTACKS ON RIPEM
------------------------------
This is a living list of potential weaknesses to keep your eyes open
for when using RIPEM for secure electronic mail. It does not go into
great detail, and is almost certainly not exhaustive. Obviously, many
of the weaknesses are weaknesses of cryptographically secured mail in
general, and will pertain to secure mail programs other than RIPEM.
It is maintained by Marc VanHeyningen <mvanheyn@cs.indiana.edu>. It
is posted monthly to a variety of news groups; followups pertaining
specifically to RIPEM should go to alt.security.ripem.
CRYPTANALYSIS ATTACKS
---------------------
- Breaking RSA would allow an attacker to find out your private key,
in which case he could read any mail encrypted to you and sign
messages with your private key.
RSA is generally believed to be resistant to all standard
cryptanalytic techniques. Even a standard key (about 516 bits with
RIPEM) is long enough to render this impractical, barring a
huge investment in hardware or a breakthrough in factoring.
- Breaking DES would allow an attacker to read any given message,
since the message itself is encrypted with DES. It would not allow
an attacker to claim to be you.
DES has only 56 bits in its key, and thus could conceivably be
compromised by brute force with sufficient hardware, but few agencies
have such money to devote to simply read one message. Since each
message has a different DES key, the work for each message would
remain high.
KEY MANAGEMENT ATTACKS
----------------------
- Stealing your private key would allow the same benefits as breaking
RSA. To safeguard it, it is encrypted with a DES key which is derived
from a passphrase you type in. However, if an attacker can get a copy
of your private keyfile and your passphrase (by snooping network
packets, tapping lines, or whatever) he could break the whole scheme.
The main risk is that of transferring either the passphrase or the
private key file across an untrusted link. So don't do that. Run
RIPEM on a trusted machine, preferably one sitting right in front of
you. Ideally, your own machine in your own home (or maybe office)
which nobody else has physical access to.
- Fooling you into accepting a bogus public key for someone else could
allow an opponent to deceive you into sending secret messages to him
rather than to the real recipient. If the enemy can fool your
intended recipient as well, he could re-encrypt the messages with
the other bogus public key and pass them along.
It is important to get the proper public keys of other people.
The most common mechanism for this is finger; assuming the opponent
has not compromised routers or daemons or such, finger can be
given a fair amount of trust. The strongest method of key
authentication is to exchange keys in person; however, this is
not always practical. Having other people "vouch for you" by
signing a statement containing your key is possible, although
RIPEM doesn't have features for doing this as automatically as
PGP. RIPEM does generate and check MD5 fingerprints of public keys
in the key files; they may be exchanged via a separate channel for
authentication.
PLAYBACK ATTACKS
----------------
- Even if an opponent cannot break the cryptography, an opponent could
still cause difficulties. For example, suppose you send a message
with MIC-ONLY (a PEM mode which does not provide disclosure protection)
to Alice which says "OK, let's do that." Your opponent intercepts
it, and now resends it to Bob, who now has a message which is
authenticated as from you telling him to do that. Of course, he may
interpret it in an entirely different context. Or your opponent
could transmit the same message to the same recipient much later,
figuring it would be seen differently at a later time. Or the
opponent could change the Originator-Name: to himself, register
your public key as his, and send a message hoping the recipient
will send him return mail indicating (perhaps even quoting!) the
unknown message.
To defeat playback attacks, the plaintext of each message should
include some indication of the sender and recipient, and a unique
identifier (typically the date). A good front-end script for RIPEM
should do this automatically (IMHO). As a recipient, you should be
sure that the Originator-Name: header and the sender indicated within
the plaintext are the same, that you really are a recipient, and that
the message is not an old one. Some this also can and should be
automated. The author of this FAQ has made a modest attempt at
automating the process of generating and checking encapsulated
headers; the programs are included in the standard distribution in
the utils directory.
LOCAL ATTACKS
-------------
- Clearly, the security of RIPEM cannot be greater than the security of
the machine where the encryption is performed. For example, under
UNIX, a super-user could manage to get at your encrypted mail,
although it would take some planning and effort to do something like
replace the RIPEM executable with a Trojan horse or to get a copy of
the plaintext, depending how it's stored.
In addition, the link between you and the machine running RIPEM is
an extension of that. If you decrypt with RIPEM on a remote machine
which you are connected to via network (or, worse yet, modem), an
eavesdropper could see the plaintext (and probably also your
passphrase.)
RIPEM should only be executed on systems you trust, obviously. In
the extreme case, RIPEM should only be used on your own machine,
which you have total control over and which nobody else has access
to, which has only carefully examined software known to be free of
viruses, and so on. However, there's a very real trade-off between
convenience and security here.
A more moderately cautious user might use RIPEM on a UNIX workstation
where other people have access (even root access), but increase
security by keeping private keys and the (statically linked, of
course) executable on a floppy disk.
Some people will keep RIPEM on a multi-user system, but when dialing
in over an insecure line, they will download the message to their
own system and perform the RIPEM decryption there. However, the
security provided by such a mechanism is somewhat illusory; since
you presumably type your cleartext password to log in, you've just
given away the store, since the attacker can now log in as you and
install traps in your account to steal your private key next time
you use it from a less insecure line. This will likely remain the
situation as long as most systems use the rather quaint mechanism of
cleartext password authentication.
I find it nice to put a brief statement of how carefully I manage my
security arrangement in my .plan next to my public key, so that
potential correspondents can be aware what level of precautions are
in place. Some people use two keys, a short one which is not
carefully managed for ordinary use and a longer one which is treated
with greater care for critical correspondence.
UNTRUSTED PARTNER ATTACKS
-------------------------
- RIPEM's encryption will ensure that only a person with the private key
corresponding to the public key used to encrypt the data may read the
traffic. However, once someone with that key gets the message, she
may always make whatever kind of transformations she wishes. There
exist no cryptographic barriers to a recipient, say, taking an
ENCRYPTED message and converting it to a MIC-ONLY message, signed by
you and readable by anyone, although RIPEM does not provide this
functionality. Indeed, the latest PEM draft I have seen specifically
states that such transformations should be possible to allow
forwarding functions to work.
Including the recipients in the plaintext, as mentioned above, will
make it possible for recipients of a redistributed message to be aware
of its original nature. Naturally, the security of the cryptography
can never be greater than the security of the people using it.
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10385 | From: dannyb@panix.com (Daniel Burstein)
Subject: Re: (Q) CONNER HD specs
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Lines: 17
In <199304181719.AA08489@sune.stacken.kth.se> hhaldre@stacken.kth.se (Heikki Haldre) writes:
>Can anybody send CONNER CP-321 harddisk specifications?
>It has 612 Cyl, and 4 HD, but I am more intrested in its time-out values,
>precomp, etc.
>Heikki Haldre Internet: hhaldre@sune.stacken.kth.se
conner peripherals has a 1-800 number with a touch-tone /voice response
data bank giving all the info.
if you call 1-800 directory assisatnce (1-800-555-1212) and ask for the
phone number of "conner peripherals," you should get what you need.
dannyb@panix.com
all the usual disclaimers apply, whatever they may be.
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10386 | From: lbutler@hubcap.clemson.edu (L Clator Butler Jr)
Subject: Re: DID HE REALLY RISE???
Organization: Clemson University
Lines: 11
mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes:
>(2) Nobody ever displayed the dead body of Jesus, even though both the
>Jewish and the Roman authorities would have gained a lot by doing so
>(it would have discredited the Christians).
It is told in the Gospels that the Pharisees (sp.?) and scribes bribed
the Roman soldiers to say that the Diciples stole his body in the night.
Good enough excuse for the Jewish and Roman objectives (of that day).
--Clator
--lbutler@hubcap.clemson.edu
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10387 | From: smace@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Mace)
Subject: Re: IDE vs SCSI (here we go again.....)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Lines: 92
In article <1993Apr12.171250.486@julian.uwo.ca> wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) writes:
>In article <ercC57245.H2w@netcom.com> erc@netcom.com (Eric Smith) writes:
>>
>>SCSI is better because it has a better future, and it has a lot of
>>minor advantages right now. IDE cards are cheaper right now, but will
>>be obsolete in a few years. (In fact, IDE cards are so cheap, they
>>might as well be free. The real cost is in the IDE drives.) SCSI
>>cards cost more, but they are worth it.
>
>I almost got a hernia laughing at this one.
You'll probably get one when you realize that your $100 vesa super
dooper local bus ultra high tech controller sucks...
>If anything, SCSI (on a PC) will be obsolete-> killed off by Vesa Local
With any luck PC bus archeitecture will be doen any with by sbus.
Have you ever seen what happens when you hook a busmaster controller to
a vesa local bus. It actually slows down your system
>Bus IDE. It must be real nice to get shafted by $20-$100 bucks for the
>extra cost of a SCSI drive, then pay another $200-$300 for a SCSI controller.
Maybe my workstation doesn't understand what your vesa local bus
IDE is
Vesa local bus will be killed off by pcmi? whatever intels spec is.
VLBUS it not good for much more than vga cards.
To each his own. I'll laugh when you start crying over how much you
spent for your 2 little ide drives and then finding out you need more
space.
>
>>The biggest advantage of SCSI right now is that you can add more
>>different kinds of devices, such as tapes, etc., easily, and can add
>>bigger disks. The best and most cost effective hard disks available
>>are SCSI.
Here Here....
>
>Only of you need drives larger then 500 meg. Oh yes, gotta have 10 megs/sec
>transfer rate for those speedy tape backups and cd rom drives.
don't stick your foot in your mouth when you make a statement you know
nothing about.
I'd rather wait a second compared to the 5 minutes and ide would take.
(obviously exaggerated).
Have you ever tried to backup 2 gigs of disk? Oh I forgot you can't
because you have an ide and no one makes ide disks that big.
>
>Basically, if a person *has* to ask which one is better for him/her,
>then they will *probably* never see the EXPENSIVE benefits from SCSI.
I guess you probably bought a 486sx too
>
>Also, all this arm-waving about SCSI expandability is a moot point if
>the user only has one or two drives on it. And with SCSI those two
>drives *may* be fast, but that speed is only due to the onboard memory
>cache -> something I can duplicate with a caching IDE controller.
What? The SCSI-2 FAST,WIDE spec has much more bandwidth than any stupid
vlbus ide crap....
Stop this thread now, Its just cluttering up bandwidth. If you want
to read about scsi vs ide just pay a visit to you local usenet archive.
the best SCSI-2 FAST,WIDE,etc is clearly faster than any the best ide drive.
All the response given are based upon personal experience with 1 or 2
drives. You can't judge such completely different interfaces.
IDE has the low cost adavantage + a descent performance.
SCSI has the ability for super high capacity expandibility and speed.
neither one is better in all cases.
If you don't belive what I said about busmastering and vlbus then pick
up a back issue of PC-week in whihc they tested vlbus, eisa and isa
busmastering cards.
send flames to /dev/null.....
--
*********************************************************************
* Scott Mace internet: smace@nyx.cs.du.edu *
* emace@tenet.edu *
*********************************************************************
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10388 | From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (OrioleFan@uiuc)
Subject: Re: And America's Team is....But Why?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 43
kingoz@camelot.bradley.edu (Orin Roth) writes:
> Well, officially it's the Braves. At least up until they started winning
> it was. Are they still, officially?
> If so, why? and how did they receive this label?
>
> Unoffically, but without a doubt, America's Team is the Cubs. Why?
> Well, my guess is because America loves underdogs. Every year, no matter
> the Cubs' talent or the predictions, they never (as close to never as
> possible) win anything. Over the years, as the losing has mounted, America
> has fallen in love with these perennial losers. The Cubs have more fans
> in Chicago then some teams do worldwide. The Cubs have more fans
> worldwide than most of the teams in their division combined.
> An aura of excitement surrounds the Cubs at the beginning of the season
> like no one else. (including the WS champs) It must be that Eternal Hope.
> "this is the year. they've got the talent. they're off to a good start.
> they've got the pitching (or hitting, or whatever their strong point is
> at the time)." It's that inevitability that the Cubs WILL eventually
> win the WS again. When? Only God knows. Since it's been so long, it
> could come at any time, or it could be another 85 years. But until they
> do finally win, and start winning consistently, The Cubs will remain
> America's Lovable Underdogs. The Cubs are...AMERICA'S TEAM.
> Orin.
> Bradley U>
The defenition of the Underdog is a team that has no talent and comes
out of nowhere to contend. The '69 Mets and '89 Orioles are prime examples,
not the Cubs. I root for the Cubs, because I feel sorry for them, but
basically they are dogs. The Pirates today are a great example of an underdog.
If the Rockies and Marlins compete, they will be underdogs. The North Stars
trip to the Stanley Cup finals was a good example of an underdog's journey.
The Cubs have a good team this year, and play in a weak division, they are much
less than America's Team.
>
>--
>I'm really a jester in disguise!
--
Chintan Amin <The University of Illinois UrbanaChampaign> mail: llama@uiuc.edu
******************************Neil Peart, (c)1981*****************************
*"Quick to judge, Quick to Anger, Slow to understand, Ignorance and Prejudice*
*And********Fear********Walk********************Hand*********in*********Hand"*
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10389 | From: robink@hparc0.aus.hp.com (Robin Kenny)
Subject: Re: CMOS memory loss..Any idea why?
Organization: HP Australasian Response Centre (Melbourne)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.5]
Lines: 14
How is the CMOS backed-up? Dry cell batteries or ni-cad cell?
Your batteries may be dead.
mwallack@kean.ucs.mun.ca (mwallack@kean.ucs.mun.ca) wrote:
: A friend's computer recently failed to recognize its hard drive.
: On examination it was discovered that the CMOS had lost all data.
: No other problems were discovered. When the CMOS was restored,
: everything appeared to work as before. This all happened after
: a long period of stable operation. The most recent change had
: been the addition of a second hard drive as a slave. Qemm had
: been installed along with DeskView for quite a while. Any ideas?
: The computer is a 386dx with 8megs of ram, an ATI Wonder xl card, and is
: about a year and a half old.
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10390 | Subject: Re: Braves Pitching UpdateDIR
From: grabiner@math.harvard.edu (David Grabiner)
Organization: /etc/organization
Nntp-Posting-Host: boucher.harvard.edu
In-reply-to: drw3l@delmarva.evsc.Virginia.EDU's message of Fri, 16 Apr 1993 16:19:23 GMT
Lines: 41
In article <C5L40C.9LC@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, David Robert Walker writes:
> In article <8994@blue.cis.pitt.edu> traven@pitt.edu (Neal Traven) writes:
>>One also has to separate offense into batting and baserunning, with the
>>split probably somewhere around 49.5% and 0.5%.
> I'd give baserunning a little more credit than that, maybe 45-5, or
> even 40-10. Give a team of Roberto Alomar and a team of John Oleruds
> identical batting stats (which wouldn't be that unreasonable), and
> even if you don't let Roberto steal a single base, they'll score a lot
> more than the Oleruds by going first-to-third more often. (No offense,
> Gordon).
I wouldn't give baserunning that much value.
The above effect is clear, but there are other effects as well. If
Olerud hits a double, any runner on first will score; if Alomar legs an
extra base onto a hit in the gap, the runner on first may need to hold
at third. Thus Olerud's doubles have more advancement value than
Alomar's. (Of course, Alomar is more likely to score after hitting a
double.)
Another reason not to give too much extra value to baserunning is that
the runs created formulas work for very fast and very slow teams. No
team in the 1950's ran much, but some teams certainly had faster players
than others. Still, the current runs created formulas work just as well
in the 1950's for all teams.
Bill James gives the 1955-1958 Senators as an example. They used Harmon
Killebrew regularly as a pinch runner, and in 1957, stole 13 bases with
38 times caught stealing. Yet they scored slightly more runs than
predicted by Runs Created.
--
David Grabiner, grabiner@zariski.harvard.edu
"We are sorry, but the number you have dialed is imaginary."
"Please rotate your phone 90 degrees and try again."
Disclaimer: I speak for no one and no one speaks for me.
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10391 | From: REXLEX@fnal.fnal.gov
Subject: Re: Hell_2: Black Sabbath
Organization: FNAL/AD/Net
Lines: 20
In article <Apr.21.03.25.03.1993.1292@geneva.rutgers.edu>
salaris@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrabbits) writes:
>I like those lyrics,
>since whenever I am approached by judgemental, pharisitical,
>evangelical fundamentalists who throw the Bible at me because
>I have long hair, wear a black leather jacket, and listen to Black
>Sabbath, I have something to throw back....
>It just goes to show that there are more important evils in the
>world to battle than rock lyrics...........
It just goes to show that not all evangelical fundamentalists are pharisitical!
I wear a black leather jacket, like classic rock, but no longer have the long
locks I once had. However, I too rely upon the Bible as a basis for Christian
ethics.
a fundamentalistic evangelical,
--Rex
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10392 | From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Subject: Re: Fingernail "moons"
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
Lines: 16
In article <733196190.AA00076@calcom.socal.com> Daniel.Prince@f129.n102.z1.calcom.socal.com (Daniel Prince) writes:
>I only have lunulas on my thumbs. Is there any medical
>significance to that finding? Thank you in advance for all
>replies.
>
Try peeling the skin back at the base of your other fingernails
(not too hard, now, don't want to hurt yourself). You'll find
nice little lunulas there if you can peel it back enough.
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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10393 | From: casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (CASPER,DAVI./PPE)
Subject: Re: American Jewish Congress Open Letter to Clinton
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Lines: 50
In article <C5vBtK.F3@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>, arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes...
>In article <22APR199300513566@vxcrna.cern.ch> casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (CASPER,DAVI./PPE) writes:
>>>Are you aware that there is an arms embargo on all of what is/was
>>>Yugoslavia, including Bosnia, which guarantees massive military
>>>superiority of Serbian forces and does not allow the Bosnians to
>>>try to defend themselves?
>>Should we sell weapons to all sides, or just the losing one, then?
>
>Ending an embargo does not _we_ must sell anything at all.
Right. We'll probably end up giving them weapons.
>>If the Europeans want to sell weapons to one or both sides, they are welcome
>>as far as I'm concerned.
>
>You seem to oppose ending the embargo. You know, it is difficult for Europeans
>to sell weapons when there is an embargo in place.
During WWII, the British managed to supply arms to the Yugoslavs despite
German occupation. If the Europeans had the will to do anything besides
sponsoring peace conferences, they would have no problem putting any kind of
weapon they wanted into Bosnia.
I guess I would favor ending the embargo if the Congress would pass a law
forbidding export of US military supplies to Yugoslavia, including via third
parties. Until then the risks of the US being drawn into a more active
role would be too great. I do not see the arms embargo as a major factor in
the outcome of the war.
>>I do not automatically accept the argument that Bosnia is any worse than
>>other recent civil wars, say Vietnam for instance. The difference is it is
>>happening to white people inside Europe, with lots of TV coverage.
>
>But if this was the reason, and if furthermore both sides are equal, wouldn't
>all us racist Americans be favoring the good Christians (Serbs) instead
>of the non-Christians we really seem to favor?
Both sides are certainly not equal in the eyes of the press. And that's
about all we have to go on, isn't it?
And I wish you'd quit hurling words like racist around. There are many levels
at which people react to what they see. At the most fundamental level, you
do not have to consciously recognize the racial element - you simply tend to
empathize more with people who are like yourself. As far preferring
Christian over Moslem, I am an atheist myself, and I think you'll agree that
in the US, the majority of people do not typically discriminate on the basis of
religion, nor give it a particularly important place in their world view.
Dave
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10394 | Nntp-Posting-Host: 134.58.96.14
From: wimvh@liris.tew.kuleuven.ac.be (Wim Van Holder)
Distribution: world
Organization: K.U.Leuven - Applied Economic Sciences Department
Subject: Re: WINQVTNET with NDIS on Token Ring ?
Lines: 28
In article <1993APR21.210954.40516@DATAMARK.CO.NZ>, thomas@datamark.co.nz writes:
|> In article <1993Apr21.082152@liris.tew.kuleuven.ac.be> wimvh@liris.tew.kuleuven.ac.be (Wim Van Holder) writes:
|> >Is it possible to use WinQVT/Net on a machine that uses NDIS to connect to a
|> >Token Ring ? I tried it with older versions (< 3.2) but got an invalid packet
|> >class error or something the like...
|>
|> How are you attempting to do that?
|>
|> Are you using the DIS_PKT9 program? This provides a packet driver on
|> top of the NDIS driver.
|>
I tried to do so, but people told me that even if I used DISPKT, the packets
would still be incompatible. Is this true ?
|> --
|> Thomas Beagle | thomas@datamark.co.nz Work: 64 4 233 8186 __o
|> Technical Writer | thomas@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz Home: 64 4 499 3832 _-\<,
|> Wellington, NZ | Hound for hire. Will work for dog biscuits. (_)/(_)
Wim Van Holder
Katholieke Universiteit Leuven Tel: ++32 (0)16/28.57.16
Departement T.E.W. FAX: ++32 (0)16/28.57.99
Dekenstraat 2
B-3000 Leuven E-mail: wimvh@liris.tew.kuleuven.ac.be
BELGIUM fdbaq03@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be
|
10395 | From: norris@athena.mit.edu (Richard A Chonak)
Subject: Atheist's views on Christianity (was: Re: "Accepting Jeesus in your heart...")
Reply-To: norris@mit.edu
Organization: l'organisation, c'est moi
Lines: 53
Eric ("Damien"?) was presenting his views on Christianity; I'll
respond to a few of his points:
In article <Apr.10.05.32.36.1993.14391@athos.rutgers.edu>, gsu0033@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Eric Molas) writes:
|> Firstly, I am an atheist. I am not posting here as an immature flame
|> start, but rather to express an opinion to my intended audience.
|>
|> <<****Strong opinions start here...****>>
|>
|> 1) The human being is an _animal_ who has, due to his/her advanced
|> mental facilities, developed religion as a satisfiable solution to
|> explain the unexplainable. (For example the ancient Greeks believed
|> that Apollo drove his chariot across the sky each day was real. Due
|> to the advancement of our technology, we know this to be false.)
This is certainly a valid objection to religion-as-explanation-of-
nature.
Fortunately for the convenience of us believers, there is a class of
questions that can never be reduced away by natural science. For
example: why does the universe exist at all? After all, the time-space
world didn't have to exist. Why does *anything* exist? And: is it
possible for persons (e.g. man) to come into being out of a purely
impersonal cosmos? These questions which look at the real mysteries of
life -- the creation of the world and of persons -- provide a permanent
indicator that the meaning of life in the material world can only be
found *outside* that world, in its Source.
|> We are _just_ animals. We need sleep, food, and we reproduce. And we
|> die.
|>
|> Religion (especially Christianity) is nothing more than a DRUG.
|> Some people use drugs as an escape from reality. Christians inject
|> themselves with jeezus and live with that high.
When you say that man is *only* an animal, I have to think that you are
presenting an unprovable statement -- a dogma, if you will. And one
the requires a kind of "faith" too. By taking such a hard line in
your atheism, you may have stumbled into a religion of your own.
But before you write off all Christianity as phony and shallow, I hope
you'll do a little research into its history and varieties, perhaps by
reading Paul Johnson's "A History of Christianity". From your remarks,
it seems that you have been exposed to certain types of Christian
religion and not others. Even an atheist should have enough faith in
Man to know that a movement of 2000 years has to have some depth, and
be animated by some enduring values.
With best wishes,
--
Richard Aquinas Chonak, norris@mit.edu, Usenet addict, INTP
I have very exclusive and nuanced opinions. License info available on request.
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10396 | From: Borut.B.Lavrencic@ijs.si
Subject: Re: The [secret] source of that announcement
Reply-To: Borut.B.Lavrencic@ijs.si
Distribution: inet
Organization: J. Stefan Institute, Lj, Slovenia
Lines: 61
In article <gradyC5unp0.D21@netcom.com>,
grady@netcom.com (1016/2EF221) writes:
> Andrew Molitor (amolitor@nmsu.edu) wrote:
> :
> : 1) Monitor my phonecalls.
> : 2) Monitor usenet.
> : 3) Provide only cryptosystems they can easily crack.
> : 4) etc etc.
> :
> : This is not to say that they *don't*, they might. But you don't
> : know that they do, and you have no evidence that they do, for almost
> : all values of you. It follows, therefore, that for most values of 'you',
> : your claims about the NSA border on paranoia.
> :
> : Andrew
.....
.....
.....
>
> Or maybe the Germans should have been a little more 'paranoid' about
> their Engima with respect to Turing and the British.
>
> How about the cracking of the Zimmerman telegram? Would a little
> more paranoia have helped the Germans here?
>
> Maybe the NSA should have been a little more 'paranoid' about
> Emma Woikin, or Joseph Sidney Petersen, Jr., or ...
>
> Maybe you want to talk about Macmillan publishers cooperation
> with the CIA and NSA to suppress Yardley's Japanese Diplomatic
> Secrets or even Kahn's The Codebreakers.. paranoia, right?
>
> The most popular cipher systems in captured soviet spies was
> the one-time pad, even with the necessity of keeping incriminating
> evidence about, is known to be the only proven unbreakable system.
> Soviet paranoia, right?
>
> And what do you think the NSA does with its Wullenwebers? And
> huge Rhombics pointed embassy row? And their sites near
> satellite uplink and downlink sites? Duh.
>
.....
> --
> grady@netcom.com 2EF221 / 15 E2 AD D3 D1 C6 F3 FC 58 AC F7 3D 4F 01 1E 2F
>
One case of Slovenian paranoia.
Once upon a time a tried to walk over the (famous) Marathon field, not far away
from Athens. I could not do that mostly becouse the field is now a huge
antenna farm. Probably a Greek COMINT installation, would you agree?
--
Borut B. Lavrencic, D.Sc. | X.400 :C=si;A=mail;P=ac;O=ijs;S=lavrencic
J. Stefan Institute | Internet:Borut.B.Lavrencic@ijs.si
University of Ljubljana, | Phone :+ 386 1 159 199
SI-61111 Ljubljana, Slovenia | PGP Public Key available on request
DOLGO SMOIS KALIS OVRAZ NIKEI NJIHK OCNOO DKRIL IVSEB IPIKA
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10397 | From: bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert Beauchaine)
Subject: Re: <Political Atheists?
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.
Lines: 34
In article <1993Apr15.150938.975@news.wesleyan.edu> SSAUYET@eagle.wesleyan.edu (SCOTT D. SAUYET) writes:
>In <1qabe7INNaff@gap.caltech.edu> keith@cco.caltech.edu writes:
>
>>> Chimpanzees fight wars over land.
>>
>> But chimps are almost human...
>>
>> keith
>
>Could it be? This is the last message from Mr. Schneider, and it's
>more than three days old!
>
>Are these his final words? (And how many here would find that
>appropriate?) Or is it just that finals got in the way?
>
No. The christians were leary of having an atheist spokesman
(seems so clandestine, and all that), so they had him removed. Of
course, Keith is busy explaining to his fellow captives how he
isn't really being persecuted, since (after all) they *are*
feeding him, and any resistance on his part would only be viewed
as trouble making.
I understand he did make a bit of a fuss when they tatooed "In God
We Trust" on his forehead, though.
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Bob Beauchaine bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM
They said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away,
and sank Manhattan out at sea.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|
10398 | From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: News briefs from KH # 1026
Organization: Stanford University
Lines: 19
farzin@apollo3.ntt.jp (Farzin Mokhtarian) writes:
>From: Kayhan Havai # 1026
>--------------------------
>
> [...]
>
>o Dr. Malekzadeh, the minister of health mentioned that
> the population growth rate in Iran at the end of 1371
> went below 2.7
I know nothing about statistics, but what significance does the
relatively small population growth rate have where the sampling period
is so small (at the end of 1371)? Is it adequete to suggest a trend or
is it just noise?
> - Farzin Mokhtarian
--mack
|
10399 | From: mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson)
Subject: Re: Who be Conservative on this.....
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA
Lines: 17
In <1993Apr2.154706.15557@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
|Congress is NOT allowed to abrogate the constitutional rights and privileges
|already enjoyed by persons, however, unless the abrogation has a "rational
|reason" or a "compelling interest" to it, depending on which standard is
|applied. This is relevant because granting a right to one class of persons
|by definition ALWAYS impinges on the rights of another class or classes or
|persons, to some degree. In the case of abortion, establishing rights for
|the unborn impinges GREATLY on the rights of pregnant women. There has yet
|to be presented a sufficient justification for such fetal rights.
Not to your satisfaction. But the arguments have convinced me, and others.
--
Mob rule isn't any prettier merely because the mob calls itself a government
It ain't charity if you are using someone else's money.
Wilson's theory of relativity: If you go back far enough, we're all related.
Mark.Wilson@AtlantaGA.NCR.com
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