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That did not sit well with a lot of people even inside the White House, who were amazed at the comments that Wilbur Ross had made and didn't feel like they were helping the White House at all in their argument that the government shutdown is worth it for the border wall.
So, right now, the White House essentially waiting back, sitting back and watching to see these votes and seeing which one ends up more popular on Capitol Hill.
BALDWIN: Quickly, quickly, Kaitlan, back to the blinking and the president's tweet last night, do we know any -- do we have anything on why he blinked so politely?
COLLINS: So, it actually surprised White House officials.
They thought that Nancy Pelosi was just bluffing, that she wasn't going to actually disinvite the president. But then once she sent that letter, they started looking at alternative venues for the president to give a speech next week, because they didn't want to be seen as backing down.
But then the president sent out that tweet last night saying, essentially, I'm going to wait until the government has reopened. And we're told that's because once advisers were looking at that list of alternative venues, Brooke, they went to the president, but he just simply wasn't interested, not only because he didn'...
He thought it was a flop and didn't end well, and he didn't want a repeat of that. It was a big surprise to people. But as you saw the president today trying to hit back at Nancy on his Twitter feed, saying that is what he calls her, saying -- he was quoting what she said during a press conference, saying, I don't unde...
The president was implying that was about the border wall. But if you watched Nancy Pelosi's press conference, as the president was doing in real time, she was quoting Wilbur Ross saying he doesn't understand why federal workers who aren't getting paid are going to food banks, instead of taking out loans, just to get t...
BALDWIN: Kaitlan, thank you, at the White House for us.
We should note we talked to a congresswoman just a little bit ago, Democrat, Virginia Congresswoman Wexton, who has apparently written a letter to Secretary Wilbur Ross, essentially saying, hey, come with me to the Capital Area Food Bank and let me show you what's going on there in person.
Tim Naftali is with me.
And I would love to hear, as always, from you a historic perspective, but let me just jump in as we're watching these votes. I was just handed this piece of paper. This is from our man Phil Mattingly.
Democratic Senator Joe Manchin voted yes on the shutdown proposal, as he said he would. Republican Senator Tom Cotton, immigration hard- liner, voted no. Senator Mike lee, Utah Republican, also voting no.
TIM NAFTALI, CNN PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN: Well, I mean, it's very important to frame this a little differently from the way some people have.
BALDWIN: You get a lot of perspective.
NAFTALI: Well, you are asking for the TSA to help you and keep you secure, and if you leave the country, the Border Patrol need to and Customs do.
All of those people are working without being paid. Is that what we have become as a country? In many ways, it's the United States, us, against our own civil servants.
This is not a hard problem. This could be solved. It's the president who decided to use the leverage of blackmail to get through his vision of border security.
NAFTALI: Because he decided, after the C.R. -- sorry, the continuing resolution -- was passed by the House and the Senate, he decided, he said, I'm not going to sign it, which meant that they have to get a higher threshold of votes for them to override his veto.
houses and then ultimately with the White House, but the president decided to hold our civil service hostage.
Now, that's the moral issue today. The moral issue is, are we as a people going to require Americans to vote to -- I mean, to work without being paid? It's bad enough there are others who are being furloughed, and they should be paid and they have mortgages to pay for.
But what about the people every day who are working for us and not getting paid? Is that what we want in this country?
BALDWIN: Of course not. We're the United States of America.
NAFTALI: Well, we're a mature democracy. You don't do that. No other country would do that. No other democracy would do that.
So, part of the issue here is a moral question. Are the senators just going to keep expecting TSA, Border Patrol, the Coast Guard and the federal civil servants who are considered essential at all of our institutions, are we going to continue to expect them to work without pay?
Frankly, I think senators should stop taking their pay and members of the House should stop taking their pay, because why should they be paid, frankly, while everybody else who is doing work for us as a people are not getting paid?
To my view, there are two issues. There's a political issue, and that's how you define border security. And then there's a moral issue. The moral is, get these people paid, because we're Americans. We expect to be paid if we work.
BALDWIN: To be fair, some members of Congress have said, don't pay us.
BALDWIN: I talked to a Democrat and a Republican just yesterday on this show who said, don't pay us while they're not getting paid. But I hear your points.
Manu Raju is on Capitol Hill following some of the details from the vote.
Manu, what are you getting?
RAJU: Well, Vice President Mike Pence was just on Capitol Hill speaking with Senate Republicans in a closed-door meeting. And I'm told that he did not lay out a strategy about how to end this government shutdown at the lunch, especially after these votes are expected to fail this afternoon. And Republican senators, a n...
As one person told me, he said, look, people just want a strategy about exactly what we're doing next.
Now, John Kennedy, who's the senator from Louisiana, talked to our colleague Liz Landers, and he said that he was asked if the president gave -- or the vice president gave any indication about what Trump would sign to end the shutdown, and Kennedy said -- quote -- "He did not."
So that is the big question going forward and something that has been really one that has lingered since this shutdown started 34 days ago.
BALDWIN: That there's no plan.
RAJU: What is the plan? Exactly. What is the plan afterwards? What would the president ultimately sign, beyond his demand for $5.7 billion for his for his border wall, which Nancy Pelosi will not give him?
Well, what next? What else could he agree to? That's just not been clear to Republican senators even. And I'm told, in this private meeting, there was some frustration about the lack of strategy going forward, especially since these votes are going to go down, and then what?
So that's why it's also prompting these discussions among rank-and- file Republicans and Democratic senators to see if there's any middle ground going forward. But, of course, Brooke, the president needs to endorse that in order for this to get any momentum, at least among the Republicans here on Capitol Hill.
And he has not said that yet. And that's why some Republicans are just not happy at this point -- Brooke.
BALDWIN: That is the last thing all these federal workers who Tim was just talking about want to hear, that there doesn't appear to be a plan.
Manu, thank you so much.
Special coverage continues as we wait for the voting results. Also, we will talk about some of the tone-deaf comments made by members of the Trump orbit.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: On this vote, the yeas are 51, the nays are 47. Three-fifths of the senators duly chosen and sworn not having voted in the affirmative, the motion is not agreed to.
BALDWIN: Manu, quickly back over to you, 51-47 nine, so clearly shy of that 60-vote threshold, so no dice, no surprise. RAJU: Yes.
And that's what we were expecting all along, that this bill was going to go down because of Democratic opposition. We do know that Joe Manchin is one who did vote for it.
We will see what the final vote tally is, if any other Democrats flipped. But all Republicans will be expected to support that measure going forward. Now, what's up next is this Democratic plan to keep the government open, reopen the government up until February 8, that also expected to fall short of 60.
And then, as we have been saying here, what next? We don't know what's next. And as these federal workers wait to hear what Congress can do to reopen the government, the members themselves don't know what they can agree to or what the president would ultimately sign, Brooke.
BALDWIN: Manu, thank you so much.
Quick break. Special coverage continues after this.
BALDWIN: We are back covering this breaking news up on Capitol Hill.
Let me just bring you up to speed. The U.S. Senate voting down the president's plan to end the shutdown. And right now lawmakers are voting on the House-passed Democratic plan.
We're going to start there.
I have with me CNN political commentators van Jones and Ana Navarro.
And, Van, you're sitting next to me, so I'm going to start with you here on call it dysfunction, call it fruitless. Other folks who have covered Capitol Hill for a long time say, well, inaction leads to action.
How do you characterize what we're looking at?
VAN JONES, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Complete breakdown of leadership in the country, a huge humiliation on a world stage, a threat to public safety in every way, because you got the Coast Guard, the TSA, the FDA, air traffic control, the people -- everybody who keeps the food safe and keeps Americans safe not getting...
And there's not a single person in the country with the moral authority to just bring people together and make them act right. And it's awful.
And so they can -- everybody's got their reasons, but the people have to live with the results. And the results of a massive food fight in Washington, D.C., are 800,000 people who cannot put gas in their car to take their kids to school, people who are having to delay getting lifesaving medical treatment because they c...
And I give 80 percent to Donald Trump, because he said he was going to be the dealmaker in chief. He said he cares about working people. He said that Mexico was going to pay for the wall. We're paying for his folly.
I will also say that, you know, on the Democratic side of this, there's got to be some ability to come up with some kind of creative solution at least to give people the sense that there's a way out of this.
I appreciate the Democrats not rewarding the president's temper tantrum, but there's got to be a third way out here. And I think people are getting very frustrated and -- but this is a disaster.
BALDWIN: I am going to come back to you on solutions in just a second.
But, Ana Navarro, I want to play you a sound from -- yes, the president did say once upon a time that he felt like he could relate to these people who are hurting.
But now we have heard from two members of the president's orbit who are getting a lot of reaction today , as millions of people are suffering.
QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, there are reports that there are some federal workers who are going to homeless shelters to get food.
WILBUR ROSS, U.S. COMMERCE SECRETARY: Well, I know they are.
And I don't really quite understand why, because, as I mentioned before, the obligations that they would undertake, say, of borrowing from a bank or a credit union, are, in effect, federally guaranteed.
So, the 30 days of pay that some people will be out is no real reason why they shouldn't be able to get a loan against it.
LARA TRUMP, DAUGHTER-IN-LAW OF PRESIDENT TRUMP: It is a little bit of pain, but it's going to be for the future of our country. And their children and their grandchildren and generations after them will thank them for their sacrifice right now.
BALDWIN: Ana, what do you think about that?
ANA NAVARRO, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: You know, it makes me cringe.
And as it makes me cringe, I only wonder how it makes the people who are suffering, who are paying the consequences feel.
It's horrible to hear this "Weekend at Bernie's" secretary of commerce that we have be so disengaged and detached from the reality of Americans. A lot of times, we talk about the need of having diversity in a Cabinet, in government, in Congress.
Donald Trump appointed a lot of very wealthy people to his Cabinet. There's nothing wrong with that, except that they don't understand and they don't relate to the people living paycheck to paycheck, the people whose stories we have heard who are rationing their medicine, rationing their insulin, people who have no way...
So, if you're going to hold on to this strategy of continuing the shutdown, at the very least, fake relating to it. At the very least, fake empathy.
No, Lara Trump, it's not a little bit of pain. It's a hell of a lot of pain for a hell of a lot of people in America. So, if you can't relate, do me a favor, do us all a favor. Either shut the hell up or fake it.
And there's something called credit scores. I don't know what this guy is talking about. You can't just walk into a bank and say, hi, I work for the federal government, give me some money. That would be great.
NAVARRO: Well, Van, I am sure Wilbur Ross can get a loan by picking up the phone and calling his banker, who I'm sure he's on a first-name basis with and has more than one.
Rich people can do that. People who live paycheck to paycheck cannot.
And I just think that, for people who have something called a credit score, which may not be that great, they're not going to get a bank loan just because they have a job.
The idea is, just because you have a job, a federal job, your bank loan is federally guaranteed is so insane, that he should have been really just taken away as soon as it's over and put away to some other place.
He has no relationship to the way that working-class and middle-class people live.
BALDWIN: Not to mention, if you are able to secure a loan, the interest, right, that you're paying back, all of that, all of that.
Stand by, please, both of you.
We're getting more breaking news. Democratic Senator and 2020 contender Elizabeth Warren is planning to propose a so-called wealth tax plan targeting some of the richest American -- those details next.
HOWE, Ind. (WNDU) - School leaders at Howe Military Academy are speaking out about what’s next for their cadets after they announced Monday that they will close their doors at the end of this school year.
The board of trustees made the decision to close the military academy because the bottom line is that the academy hasn’t been able to enroll enough students to financially sustain itself.
But there are parents who are already working to save the school.
“We’ve tried and worked on several things to try and enhance the financial situation, but basically, we’re at a point now where we just can’t continue,” said Col. Thomas Tate, the president of Howe Military Academy.
Tate said the academy has been struggling for the last decade, and since he’s taken over in the last year and a half, he’s looked at the possibility of making the academy a charter school in order to save it. However, they lack the funding to do so.
“We just do not have the revenue to continue to grow,” Tate said.
Thomas says her daughter set her sights on Howe Military Academy when she was 12 years old, and that enrolling in the school this year was a dream come true.
Tate said a minimum of $3 million would open up the possibility of the academy moving forward, but school leaders would need to consider the long-term finances.
Thomas says $5 million would get the school back on its feet and she and other parents encourage any investor who wants “have a legacy” to invest in Howe Military Academy.
Parents plan to reach out to President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence for help, saying Trump himself attended a military academy in New York.
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