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Seriously though, I have always admitted it's not one sided. Ironically, I don't EVER recall you two calling out BYU fans although I could be wrong. So why the beef with me when your kettle needs cleaning on the subject matter? |
March 27, 2013 2:49 p.m. |
"Leadership is a trait head coach Bronco Mendenhall values in all his players" |
question: if they are all leaders, who is being led? |
March 26, 2013 4:02 p.m. |
There is nothing worse nor more hypocritical than certain "fans" whining about civility on a BYU story. Geesh. |
Thank you for being the straight-up no non-sense person you are. It is much appreciated. |
March 26, 2013 10:51 a.m. |
Ammon Olsen is picking up the offense much quicker than the other qb's, has the best arm, and is a great leader and proven winner. Hill is more athletic and runs the ball better and has the experience, but doesn't make as good of reads or pick up the nuances like Olsen does. |
Hopefully the coaches keep handing the ball to Olsen, he's been with the one's most of this week and looks very good in practice. |
Hill would be a great change of pace qb, but Olsen is a prototypical BYU throwing qb which is what the Cougars need at this point. |
March 26, 2013 10:24 a.m. |
No cut-&-paste quote from me "demand"-ing anything? Nothing? |
So in other words, what you're saying is that you did indeed frantically and emotionally made that up. I thought so. Typical Indy-WACer. |
March 26, 2013 9:59 a.m. |
As usual you only have your "indignant meltdown" over one side. Par for the course. |
Once you admit that it is not a one sided arrangement then people might, just might, take your "frantic and emotional" pleas seriously. |
did you read the very first post on this thread? Did you see the completely unfounded accusation and attempt to denigrate that was in that post? It appears not. |
March 25, 2013 6:58 p.m. |
Frantic and emotional? Indignant meltdowns? Drama central is the never ending theme. Except the one using these silly words is the one who loves meltdowns and stirred emotions. In fact, he laughs out loud when these emotional things occur (or he supposes/induces they occur). The irritation of others puts a smile on his... |
No, I am not making this up. The relative one puts these labels in writing over and over. Maybe the DesNews should see the writing on the wall and use their censorship criteria set forth and realize this stuff is against their friendly comment protocol. Sometimes I can't help but wonder how selective they are with who ... |
Is this a BYU paper or a fair community place to read and post equally? Honestly, I wonder if this comment will be censored. Don't mind that their is a little thought behind it other than just mocking people. |
Although I wish the red and blue extremists would stop the childish insults, I myself don't favor censorship. But if it is present, say in a forum like this, I expect it to contain equal rejection to all. |
March 25, 2013 1:00 p.m. |
Please don't be mad to "Naval Vet". He tries so hard. |
March 25, 2013 10:56 a.m. |
"naval's 'frantic and emotional' post calling someone else out and demanding they admit they are worong [sic]..." |
Please cut-&-paste my exact words where I "demand"-ed an Indy-WACer to admit they were wrong. And don't forget the date and time stamp. Can you? No? Well then I guess YOU were wrong too. You frantically and emotional made that up. That was so very Indy-WACey of you. |
March 25, 2013 10:41 a.m. |
You're wrong about Nelson being recruited by BYU on his mission. I do have inside information about that. His Logan HS coach (Andersen) told me that he would not be returning to USU post-mission, that he would go to BYU even if he had to walk on and/or change positions. He and his father actively recruited BYU before, ... |
Don't let emotions get the best of you and certainly don't put them on display in your comments. Your attempt to smear BYU and Taysom Hill is what I'm talking about here. |
March 25, 2013 10:09 a.m. |
naval's "frantic and emotional" post calling someone else out and demanding they admit they are worong is without a doubt the funniest thing I have ever read on these boards. |
March 25, 2013 9:08 a.m. |
1 QB is a sr and this will be it for him, 1 qb will leave for a mission after spring practice, 1 is a freshman and will probably redshirt, and one is a walkon and does not take a scholarship. That means BYU will have 3 scholarship qb's on the active roster next season and one wlakon, hardly an overabundance. You really... |
March 25, 2013 6:45 a.m. |
You say Riley Nelson was 'recruited' while on his mission. What inside information do you have that no one else has? Where is your proof? Just because someone repeat a lie don't make it true. If the NCAA has not punished BYU in anyway, if no news paper every found proof to publish facts that BYU cheated then how is it ... |
March 24, 2013 10:17 p.m. |
Gilmer, remember? He's recovering from knee surgery? But at that, a much accelerated recovery COULD indicate real focus on doing the hard work to recover as quick as possible. A faucet of leadership, by the way. |
You are out of line to indicate that Doman or Mendenhall did not care about success on the field. Cheap shot, and ignorant. |
And the season was good last year. Not great, not stellar, but better than some of the neighbors. With a better/healthier qb, it COULD have been top 10, SHOULD have been top 25, but it WAS a winning season and a bowl game. Again. Don't let your bitter disappointment with what COULD have been destroy what was. |
And, Wayne? Move on. Time to move on, bro. |
March 24, 2013 10:09 p.m. |
Beyond that, Hill seems to be a lot more QB intelligent than Nelson, along with being much more poised and having a much better presence in the pocket. I think that is likely the biggest difference of all. That doesn't mean he is immune to mistakes (because of the knee incident), but it does mean I think he seems a lot... |
March 24, 2013 8:55 p.m. |
Riley Nelson's "leadership" didn't get the Cougars very far last year. I hope success on the football field means more to Anae than it meant last year to Doman and Mendenhall. I'm quite troubled that Hill is tops for leadership but not necessarily how he is playing. |
March 24, 2013 8:32 p.m. |
March 24, 2013 8:20 p.m. |
I don't post on Ute articles. Period. You don't need to crank it up on our side. Just cheer for yours. |
Now, I may have missed all the places you posted, but you are still in the "wrong" for spending so much time and energy putting down fans of another school. It just sounds like sour grapes in the end. |
March 24, 2013 5:19 p.m. |
Barring injury, Hill will get the starting nod. But it's nice knowing Olsen is progressing so well to back him up. Their styles are similar enough that we won't have to change the offense if we change QBs. Even though they can both run, I hope Anae doesn't call 15 - 20 running plays per game for them. |
Does Stewart have a red-shirt available? If so, we should use it unless he moves up to the #2. |
Billy Green will likely red-shirt and run the scout team. |
It will be another interesting battle to see whether Green or Mangum win the QB job after Hill / Olsen. |
March 24, 2013 5:21 p.m. |
Having several quality QBs is a great problem to have. Just be glad that poor recruiting hasn't forced Bronco to put all his eggs from the most important position on the field into a single, fragile, habitually injured basket like, say a Jordan Wynn. And be glad the only backup option available should the starting QB g... |
March 24, 2013 5:15 p.m. |
Can we let Riley Nelson RIP? Almost all us were begging for Bronco to put him in when Heaps was struggling. He was not a premiere QB, but he played decent when he was healthy. The problem was the Bronco or Doman continued to play him when he was in pain. He should have never been in the game against Utah, Boise State o... |
You watch, he will be extremely successful in real life. |
March 24, 2013 3:55 p.m. |
March 24, 2013 2:45 p.m. |
If you ask Riley you will find out he wasn't recruited by BYU, I like Olsen. I don't see them in practice but I did see Olsen in the state championship game when he was in high school and he is a winner. My brother saw Hill up in Idaho and says the same thing. I guess both are good. |
March 24, 2013 2:21 p.m. |
"Six quarterbacks and hurting for defensive backs, maybe if one of them wants to play they will ask to move to defense. Once Bronco picks Hill no one else will play for the next three years." |
---Taysom himself showed how quickly a qb can be done in by injury...qb's need to be 3 or 4 deep...other 2? maybe a defensive back or two there. |
...its the Offensive Line that is key to the offense, if they play well, any of the top three qb's can lead Y to great season. |
March 24, 2013 1:17 p.m. |
I was super impressed with Hill last year. Given a little more playing time, they would have easily beat BSU last year. He is an athlete. His arm seems fine. Give him a chance to throw the ball and get some reps, and the naysayers will like him. |
March 24, 2013 12:19 p.m. |
I can tell you this about Hill. He has better size, better speed, and a better arm than Nelson ever had. And if he does indeed have at least the same leadership qualities as Nelson, then he is clearly and upgrade from Nelson. So to all you naysayers, just because Bronco likes the guy and appreciates his leadership qual... |
I agree that BYU has way too many QB's. Wasted scholarships that could go to the more sparse positions. |
March 24, 2013 12:01 p.m. |
He's the leader "not necessarily by performance". Uh oh,haven't we seen this before? |
March 24, 2013 10:56 a.m. |
"That post was for utah "fans" like yourself and naval who get all worked up and accuse BYU of recruiting kids on their missions, and it worked because you got all worked up about it." |
You really need to get out more. |
March 24, 2013 10:07 a.m. |
So let me understand this, Harbaugh comes to visit a guy he recruited and they still have a great relationship. Does that sound like cheating has gone on? |
Somebody is reading to many romance novels. |
March 24, 2013 9:47 a.m. |
"...he's usually the first to read a BYU article and comment on them." |
If that's true, then you wouldn't have a hard time providing the name of another cougar article wherein I was first to comment. Can you do that? No? How frantic and emotional of you. |
"I just want someone to explain to me how a kid is 'recruited' while on his mission." |
If you REALLY wanted to know, just go ask Riley Nelson. |
"How come I never see you on the articles about Utah?" |
I don't know. Because you didn't read the comments on any of the following articles??? |
How come I never see you admit when you're wrong? |
March 24, 2013 9:32 a.m. |
I know what missions are all about and I know BYU does not recruit kids on their missions. That post was for utah "fans" like yourself and naval who get all worked up and accuse BYU of recruiting kids on their missions, and it worked because you got all worked up about it. |
March 24, 2013 8:48 a.m. |
Yes, Naval Vet, you are correct. You have uncovered one of the biggest recruiting scandals in recent memory--one in which Harbaugh has not yet said one word. Who's keeping him quiet? What does Mendenhall have on Harbaugh? Quite frankly, I am at a loss as to why you have not contacted the national media to dig into the ... |
March 24, 2013 8:26 a.m. |
Six quarterbacks and hurting for defensive backs, maybe if one of them wants to play they will ask to move to defense. Once Bronco picks Hill no one else will play for the next three years. |
March 24, 2013 7:23 a.m. |
Left BYU but can't leave it alone? |
March 24, 2013 5:46 a.m. |
How come I never see you on the articles about Utah? I don't post on Ute stories. Unless I want to congratulate them. We're talking about a bunch of young kids after all, who are awesome (for the most part) goal-oriented over-achievers. |
I invite you and your buddies to go click the tab for "Utes" and cheer for your team...the clicks are rather low over there. |
March 24, 2013 5:38 a.m. |
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