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Acharacle community company
Minutes of meetings.
Produce and Craft Markets
Sgoil na Coille
Re-use Project
Community Orchard
Woodland Family Fun Day
We all had a great day out at Sgoil na Coille at our woodland event even though there was a cold wind blowing and there were technical difficulties with the barbecue! In a glade at the back of the sgoil, Alison helped the youngsters make wood cookie necklaces, toasted dough twists on an open fire and sent them on a scavenger hunt. Down below the sgoil, Sharon was creating woven willow plant supports and there were wood turning and shaving horse demonstrations with plenty of opportunities for all to have a go. Rab came to the rescue and improvised a barbecue to keep the visitors from going hungry. Becky and visitors made willow whistles with varying degrees of success and came to the conclusion that the ones that didn't work were more pleasing to the ears! A big thank you to all who helped out before, during and after the event - we couldn't have done it without you!!
Maybe you could help us organise more events at the Sgoil na Coille? Its such a wonderful location...
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Colon Cancer Screening | January 2009
Overcoming colonoscopy's image problem
Colon cancer screening saves lives, but internists have to overcome patients' initial unease with the test. They also need to sort through the multiple guidelines released in 2008 and help their patients choose among the many screening regimens.
By Ryan DuBosar
If patients looked at the evidence, it's likely that everyone would get a colonoscopy by age 50. Screening reduces mortality and colonoscopy specifically even prevents cancer by removing polyps before they progress from adenoma to carcinoma. But patients' discomfort with the idea of invasive tests has kept screening levels below 60%, and colorectal cancer remains the country's second-leading cause of cancer death.
“A mammogram is going to diagnose cancer at an early stage. But it doesn't really help you to prevent the onset of cancer,” said Cary P. Gross, ACP Member, associate professor of medicine at the Yale University School of Medicine. Conversely, with colon cancer, detection is prevention because pre-cancerous polyps can be removed before they become invasive malignancies. Even when polyps turn cancerous, five-year survival is 90% when cancer is localized to the bowel, 68% when involving lymph nodes and 10% when metastasized, based on a SEER Cancer Statistics Review from the National Cancer Institute.
A study in the Jan. 6 issue of Annals of Internal Medicine provides further evidence of the screening's effectiveness. The study examined more than 10,000 case patients and 51,000 matched controls and found colonoscopy is associated with fewer deaths from colorectal cancer, primarily from left-sided cancers.
However, proper screening is hindered by squeamishness by patients or even possibly by physicians. Often, says Jorge Prieto, MD, a gastroenterologist with Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia, patients may have a natural bias against doing an invasive test for which they have no symptoms (See sidebar, ““).
George Tzanis, MD, a general internist in primary care at the Wilmington, Del., VA, agrees. “Most people who are resistant to it think that it is incredibly invasive for a screening test, and I agree. But it's probably the best way to do it.”
Getting the word out is one way of overcoming patients' fears. Colon cancer screening rates rose after news anchor Katie Couric underwent a live, on-air colonoscopy on the Today Show in March 2000, following her husband's death from colon cancer two years before. Calling it the “Katie Couric effect,” an article in the July 14, 2003 Archives of Internal Medicine reported that screening by 400 participating endoscopists increased from 15.0 colonoscopies per physician per month before the campaign to 18.1 after the campaign (P<.001).
Since then, cancer groups and medical societies have tried to sustain the public awareness and screening rates have increased to as high as 60%, compared with rates of 24.2% for ages 50 and up in 1987 and 37.1% in 1998, according to the National Health Interview Survey from 2001. The pressure is again on primary care physicians to convince their patients that any discomfort or embarrassment is far outweighed by the benefits of getting screened.
“Internists are at the forefront of this,” Dr. Prieto said. “They are the ones whose patients rely on them to recommend tests. It's really very important for the primary care physician to provide the proper advice.”
Click here to watch Dr. Prieto discuss ways to encourage patients to undergo colonoscopy screening.
Which test to recommend?
Two major updates were released in 2008, one jointly by the American Cancer Society, the U.S. Multi-Society Task Force on Colorectal Cancer and the American College of Radiology, in May and the other by the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force (USPSTF) published in the Nov. 4 issue of Annals.
Both guidelines recommending that screening should begin at age 50. But the two groups' recommendations differed on some points. USPSTF only makes a recommendation if there is sufficient evidence, while the joint guidelines incorporated expert opinion when evidence is lacking.
David A. Lieberman, MD, from the Division of Gastroenterology/Hepatology at Oregon Health and Science University, sat on the joint guidelines panel that decided colon cancer prevention should be the main goal of colorectal cancer screening.
“Where we lacked ideal evidence from clinical studies, we provided expert opinion, because we felt that the readership, which is primary care providers, still needed to have some guidance with regard to these tests,” Dr. Lieberman said.
For example, USPSTF guidelines say that the decision to screen should be based on individual circumstances and health between age 75 and 85 and end by age 85, whereas the joint guidelines do not set an upper age limit. (These recommendations apply to average-risk individuals who do not have a parent, sibling or child with colon cancer.)
Also, USPSTF guidelines do not divide the tests into categories or cite advantages to one over the other, noting that evidence is insufficient to recommend a specific screening method. But the joint guidelines divide tests into two major categories. The first category is tests that primarily detect cancer, fecal occult blood testing (FOBT) or DNA stool tests, that need to be done annually. The second is structural screening tests, which view the colon directly and can detect polyps. Options include flexible sigmoidoscopy, CT colonography or double-contrast barium enemas, which should be done every five years, or colonoscopy, which also allows for polyp removal and should be done every 10 years.
Theory vs. practice
Despite a lack of randomized, controlled trials, gastroenterologists prefer colonoscopy as the gold standard because it allows complete visualization of the entire colon. Any polyps found can be removed for biopsy and average risk individuals with a normal colonoscopy need not be rescreened for 10 years, said Dr. Prieto.
However, flexible sigmoidoscopy is a reasonable and recommended procedure, considering that the evidence is lacking on whether colonoscopy is beneficial for average-risk individuals, according to ACP's point-of-care guidelines, PIER, which recommend annual FOBT and then flexible sigmoidoscopy. There are fewer complications, the bowel prep is easier, and it can be done by general internists and nurse practitioners, said Dr. Gross, editorial consultant for PIER's colon screening module.
However, at the Yale clinic he oversees, Dr. Gross said he implements colonoscopy as the preferred screen. “There is great circumstantial evidence that suggests that colonoscopy is better and that's why I recommend it for my patients. But there's not incredibly strong evidence as of yet that says we have to be choosing colonoscopy as our first choice. There is just no prospective randomized trial to compare colonoscopy to other modalities.”
Hemant Roy, MD, an associate professor at Northwestern University's Feinberg School of Medicine and of the department of internal medicine at Evanston (Ill.) Northwestern Healthcare, agreed that in his practice, colonoscopy is the gold standard. But he understands that it's not always available in every region. “From a societal point of view, if you think about delivery of health care, access to health care, cost and other availability, one could make an argument that flexible sigmoidoscopy is a reasonable option to offer.”
There are advances in stool tests, too. FOBTs are widely available, and newer tests not yet on the market that screen for DNA of precancerous adenomas “could provide a valuable noninvasive option that is superior to conventional occult blood testing,” said an editorial in the Oct. 7 Annals.
But, said Dr. Gross, stool tests need to be repeated annually, and must be followed by a colonoscopy if there's an abnormal result. “If some people are telling you they really don't want to get a colonoscopy—it's something they're strongly against—don't tell them ‘OK, we have a great alternative, it's called a stool test.’”
Yet, the evidence reviewed by the USPSTF suggests that annual high sensitivity occult blood screening followed by colonoscopy for those who test positive will save close to as many lives as primary colonoscopy screening. Many physicians at the primary care level prefer to provide patients options to enhance compliance with screening, said Michael LeFevre, MD, in family practice at the University of Missouri and a member of the USPSTF panel that updated colon screening guidelines.
“I can see a practicing physician doing that precise thing,” said Dr. LeFevre. “It's difficult, quite frankly, to implement a program of screening where someone has to check for occult blood every year. In small offices, [doctors] may just say, I'd rather people do colonoscopy, but if they don't I'll offer them this. The evidence is good that it saves lives.”
Dr. Gross added. “You should really only do the stool test if you are understanding and planning that you'll follow up the abnormal tests with an appropriate colonoscopy workup.”
In all cases, informed consent should spell out the details of which test, why and when.
“Patients do need to be informed about what the goal of the test is,” Dr. Lieberman said. “If the primary goal of the test is early cancer detection, they need to be told that. And if the primary goal of the test is both early detection plus prevention, they need to be told that.”
Overcoming the ‘yuck’ factor
Patients may be embarrassed by a colorectal exam or uncomfortable with the prospect of undergoing one.
Hemant Roy, MD, of the department of internal medicine at Evanston Northwestern Healthcare in Illinois, said, “It's hard enough getting people to get their cholesterol screened. Many people just don't want to deal with the colon as an organ, and it can be quite a challenge for the primary care physician to get the patient over those hurdles.”
But, said Cary P. Gross, ACP Member, associate professor of medicine at the Yale University School of Medicine, generally once people have undergone one colonoscopy they conclude it wasn't that bad and are more likely to come back.
Gastroenterologists have a few ways of convincing patients to undergo their first exam at age 50. The major hurdle is the bowel prep, which some studies identify as the biggest obstacle to get patients screened.
Click here to watch Jorge Prieto, MD, of Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia, discuss ways to ease bowel prep.
Promote prevention. Be clear to patients that colorectal cancer screening is absolutely effective and important preventive strategy to maintain their health, Dr. Gross said. Added Jorge Prieto, MD, a gastroenterologist at Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia, “There is documented and dramatic benefit to screening. That generally is a very positive message to give to individuals when they are very receptive to preventive medicine.”
Piggyback preventive services. If a patient comes in once a year to get a blood pressure check or refills for another condition, try to interject preventive services into that visit, said Michael LeFevre, MD, in family practice at the University if Missouri. Otherwise, approach them during annual check-ups.
Prepare talking points. Dr. Gross prepared talking points and patient education materials for nurses to use after he's consulted with a patient. The materials review the reasons for colonoscopy, bowel prep and offer “general motivation,” a pat on the back for agreeing to be tested. After he introduced the materials, screening rates at his clinic doubled from 20% to 40% of patients undergoing colonoscopy within four months of a consultation.
Try humor. “For the procedure itself we use sedation but for prep we don't,” said David A. Lieberman, MD, of the division of gastroenterology, Portland VA Medical Center in Oregon. “I try to reduce tension and anxiety about the prep and the test by injecting humor into our discussion.”
Good news, bad news, good news. Dr. LeFevre said he is straightforward in telling patients what to expect. He couches it as good news, there's sedation for the procedure; bad news, bowel prep is as bad as expected, and good news, colonoscopy's interval is every 10 years.
Ease the bowel prep. Properly cleansing the colon can require drinking four liters of foul-tasting solution. But some preps are now available that require less liquid. “The prep is still the major stumbling block to getting people screened,” Dr. Roy said. “We haven't made huge advances in the prep. That remains a real hindrance to getting people screened.”
Bowel prep can be even harder on women. For advice on this patient group, visit ACP Internist's blog.
The Agency for Healthcare Quality and Research offers colon screening materials meant to simplify physician decision-making and ease patient communication.
One-pager. AHRQ summarizes colorectal screening guidelines on a single page, which is available online.
Wall chart. An Adult Preventive Care Timeline based on USPSTF recommendations outlines what preventive services people need and when. The “Staying Healthy at 50+” poster is online.
Patient brochures. Pamphlets are available for men and women under 50 and over 50 that outline necessary preventive screening tests.
Electronic Preventive Services Selector. This Web-based tool can also be downloaded to a handheld device. It allows individuals and clinicians to enter certain patient characteristics and develop a personalized list of USPTF recommendations appropriate for them. It is on the AHRQ Web site.
When trials are cut short, who benefits?
By Paula S. Katz
Jury is out on truth in clinical trials
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On the Lam
June 4, 2015 [1]
Elizabeth Ito (supervising)
Nick Jennings & Sandra Lee (art)
Somvilay Xayaphone
Cole Sanchez
"Orgalorg" Next
"Hot Diggity Doom"
"On the Lam" is the forty-first episode in the sixth season of Adventure Time. It is the one hundred and ninety-seventh episode overall.
Finn's father, Martin the Human, fights for freedom on a new planet.[2]
After escaping from a chain gang of captured rebels with a koala rebel in tow, Martin is brought into the koala camp and treated with kindness and generosity by the fuzzy animals that are happy to have their ally back.
They offer the hungry Martin a bowl of milk from their giant moth, but Martin turns down the meal, instead hatching a plan that takes advantage of the koala's overwhelming hunger and need for medical assistance. He names himself the new rebel leader and proclaims that he will ride the Space Moth into the city with the koala hanging on his neck and raid it for food and supplies.
When he arrives in town, the first thing he does is sell the moth for a bag of gold. He then goes to a local pub to get a drink but a couple of alien guards come in and sticks a 'Wanted' sign with his face and the koala on it. The bartender notices this and reports it to the guards in the bar. Martin makes a run for it.
Martin makes a run for it and hides in a barrel, where he tells Martin 2 that he's running out of options and will need to abandon him. He throws Martin 2 out of the barrel to distract the surrounding officers, and when Martin learns that the koala is the officers’ primary target, he's totally relieved.
It turns out Martin 2 is really old and the leader of the rebels. Instead, Martin uses this opening to make his way to the king's treasure room, which is full of gold and jewels. He's overcome with pure glee when he sees the room in all its glory, and immediately starts hoarding as much as possible, telling himself that it's what Martin 2 would want him to do. And when he finds the moth in the treasure room, he believes that it's a gift from the Globs for his great acts of valor.
He breaks out of the King's treasure room and flies the moth to space with several pieces of gold in its mouth.
Martin 2
Alien Creatures
Koala Bear People
Space Moth
Lumpy Space Person
Mentioned and pictured
Jake has neither appeared nor been mentioned since "You Forgot Your Floaties." While Finn doesn't appear, Martin notes how Martin 2's head resembled Finn's hat.
When Martin is escaping on top of the heads of the prisoners, one of them resembles Lumpy Space Princess, although with slightly different lumps and a triangular gem of power.
Many of the Koala Bear People in this episode look similar to the character, Impossibear, from Ward's web series, Bravest Warriors, without the mustache, the rainbow color, and a different face more, specifically the eyes.
The currency that Martin mentions first on the alien planet is "rupees." This is the same currency used in India and in the Legend of Zelda video game series.
Some features of city look similar to Mos Eisley of Star Wars.
Martin seems to have made his way to a new planet after being shot up into space by Finn in "The Visitor." At the end of this episode he returns to space once again, leading up to the events of "The Comet."
It is proven that there are many other life forms in the universe after the post-apocalyptic incident.
Martin says, "I know you don't want to give me up, son, but if I stay with you, we both die. I'm not trying to abandon you, but we're running out of options here. If I'm going to heroically save your life then I'm gonna have to take a drastic action." This parallels Martin's abandonment of Finn when he was a baby. This is reinforced by how Martin 2 called him "papa," and how his ears resembled his son's "stupid hat."
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On the Lam title card design by Derek Kirk Kim and painted by Joy Ang
On the Lam promo by writer and storyboard artist Seo Kim
Martin 2 concept drawing by writer and storyboard artist Steve Wolfhard
On the Lam storyboard panel
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Author: Naveen Arul
Bosch Accelerator Program Sees Graduation Of 13 Startups
Bosch India has announced the graduation of 13 technology startups from the inaugural edition of its launch accelerator program, called DNA - Discover, Nurture and Accelerate. The DNA program is the first-of-its kind, external-facing startup initiative by Bosch globally, where it aims at nurturing business ideas from the lab-to-market. It is also focussed on improving the business continuity of the start-up ecosystem in India, the company noted. Bosch is said to have made a total investment of about $ 1 mn (about Rs 7.5 crore) in this program, which includes facilities, set-up and all other related expenses.
The startups are AutoVRse; AerxLabs; Clean Slate Technologies; Yostra; Cosine Labs; Akasa Labs; Titanobots; Neurotech; Eyedentify; Chakr Innovation; Nymble; Insuide and Ecobin. The 13 startups that graduated from the Bosch DNA program have gone through 18 weeks of intensive development, mentoring and piloting. Following this, Bosch will partner and collaborate with these technology start-ups that work in various areas of aerospace, mobility, social impact, healthcare and agriculture.
STARTUP ACCELERATOR PROGRAM
Manohar Esarapu, Head, Bosch India, corporate venture program DNA, said the first stage of the program is in discovering relevant startups that the company could provide the best mentoring to. This is done through various events like hackathons and bootcamps. The identified startups then receive nurturing over 18 weeks to help on building a venture, which covers important areas like idea validation, customer validation and pitching, he added. The final part of aligning is the strongest area of this program, noted Esarapu. This is because once the startup is through the process of being nurtured, Bosch helps the startup in identifying the market for business and relevant clients in the field, helps them scale their operations. “By combining the creativity of start-ups with the experience of Bosch, significant value can be unlocked,” commented Esarapu.
Once the startups are selected to go through the program from the various entries, they gain access to various technology inputs from Bosch. These include technologies like XDK IoT platform, Bezirk personalisation software and the Bosch IoT Cloud. Additionally, they are also given access to facilities such as the design studio, IoT Lab, EMI/EMC Electronics Test labs, as well as the Bosch Vocational Centre. This provides startups with the level of technology and infrastructure that may not be accessible to them otherwise.
Bosch also offers the startups agreements options for go-to-market, IP and percentage stake. The agreement of go-to-market would involve Bosch being a supplier, the startup being a supplier to Bosch, or a joint supplier agreement. In terms of IP, either Bosch buys out the IP from the startup or the IP could be jointly-owned. Under the last form of agreement, Bosch could invest in Seed/Series A or B for a stake in the startup through its venture capital division.
The 13 Startups that graduated from the Bosch DNA program
STRATEGY OF DNA PROGRAM
Bosch received 450 applications for the DNA program, from which the company selected the startups that are in line with Bosch’s corporate strategic imperative of “Invented for life.” Teams were eliminated on grounds of lack of clarity with respect to ideas, business plans not offering much potential for growth, the company said. Every passing round saw the teams being judged on their plan, solution, as well as their understanding of the market that they claimed to address. Based on these solutions, Bosch also assessed the value the Group could offer with respect to enhancing their existing business plan. Esarapu said that the chosen start-ups are in those areas that could add value to Bosch’s existing business, as much as it can add to that of the startups.
The company noted that its collaboration with start-ups is part of its long-term growth strategy and not a one-off activity. This is especially in line with the fact that startups create significant value, and India is one of the crucial hotspots. At the end of the first year of engagement with startups, the Bosch Group is partnering with four and is moving into the go-to-market phase. These include Chakr Innovation, which converts soot collected from a diesel generator to printable ink using a proprietary liquid, and Cosine Labs that provides customisable home automation solution. The other two are AutoVRse that harnesses the power of virtual reality to save about 90 % cost invested in life-size prototyping, and Yostra, a start-up that is developing a market viable diabetic peripheral neuropathy (DPN) screening.
ROAD AHEAD
Bosch is looking forward to carry ahead its vision with its accelerator program increasingly looking to collaborate with those who build technology solutions in areas such as, IoT, deep learning, analytics, cloud, virtual reality and block chain. The company will launch the second round of its DNA startup accelerator in September, 2017, where it looks forward to identifying and nurturing more startups for future technology initiatives.
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We are delighted to inform you that with effect from 8 December 2017, Steadfast will acquire Axis Underwriting Services Pty Ltd (“Axis”).
This recognises the excellent reputation of Axis and the services we have been providing to you and many other partners since 1999.
Axis has established strong and valued relationships with our partners over many years. This change allows us to expand services and ultimately the value that we bring to you by combining Steadfast’s strength and network, both domestically and internationally, with our expertise. Steadfast’s investment recognises the strong brand which has been built, and the quality of the Axis management team and employees.
Axis has been a Steadfast Partner since 2009, meaning we already have a strong working relationship on which to build. In addition, Steadfast Group and Axis are strategically and culturally aligned, and we look forward to working closer together to grow the businesses.
There will be NO CHANGE in our day-to-day activities, and it will be BUSINESS AS USUAL.
The name, address, telephone and other contact details will remain unchanged.
There will be no change in the familiar persons with which you have been dealing over many years.
The company will continue to be led by:
Gary Dawson Managing Director
Ivan Verescuk General Manager
We assure you, our valued partner, that we are dedicated to continuing to service your insurance needs in the professional and valued way to which you have become accustomed.
We are very excited about the future, in the firm belief that, with Steadfast, we will not only continue to deliver a high level of service, but will also enhance the insurance support with which you are so familiar.
Please feel free to contact the Axis management team if you have any queries.
E info@axisunderwriting.com.au
The Steadfast Group
In 1996, 43 independently owned insurance brokers joined forces in the belief that quality advice and service were paramount in the Insurance Industry and Steadfast was born. Today they are the largest general insurance broker network in Australasia with more than 360 brokerages and more than 1,300 offices.
They are an ASX 200 Listed company, a market leader in the industry and an innovator in insurance broking and underwriting agencies. As at 1 December 2017, their market capitalization is in excess of A$2.1 billion. For more information please visit www.steadfast.com.au.
By Axis|Axis, Industry News, Media Release|December 7, 2017
New Axis Appointment – Manager, NSW
Axis are excited to announce the appointment of our new Manager – NSW, Andrew Mitchell. Andrew is heading up the Axis team in NSW, and is responsible for managing relationships with our NSW and ACT brokers.
Prior to joining Axis, Andrew was the Production and Risk Manager – NSW at Acerta. Andrew is a technical property underwriting specialist, with over 25 years of experience both in Australia and the United Kingdom.
Andrew is replacing Emily Walker, who will now transition to her new role within Axis as National Development Manager.
By Axis|Axis, Industry News, Media Release, People|October 10, 2017
New Appointment: Axis National Development Manager
Axis Underwriting are very pleased to announce the appointment of Emily Walker to the newly created role of National Development Manager. Emily commenced with Axis Underwriting in 2011, and since then, has played a fundamental role in the growing success of the organisation.
In her new position, Emily will be responsible for the development of broker relationships nationally, including key partnerships, cluster groups, and networks, which all contribute significantly to Axis’ business. The role will also involve coordination of development activities – exhibiting at Conferences and Underwriting Expos.
Emily will transition from her current role as Manager, NSW when a replacement is named for that position.
By Axis|Axis, Industry News, Media Release, People|August 18, 2017
Changes to the New South Wales Emergency Services Levy
The New South Wales Government has passed legislation to abolish the Emergency Services Levy (ESL) – known also as Fire Services Levy (FSL) – from insurance premiums with effect from 1 July 2017 and replace it with a property-based levy as part of council rates creating a fairer system for all.
On 22 July 2016, under Section 30 of NSW Emergency Services Levy Insurance Monitor Act 2016, the NSW Emergency Services Levy Monitor published the following notice in the NSW Government Gazette.
It is a requirement for all insurers (and those acting on an insurers behalf) that this notice be issued with all quotes and renewals where a NSW ESL charge applies.
The Fire Services Levy (ESL) component of insurance premiums relates to the financial year the policy was taken out and not to the policy period, however, insurers are still required to meet their full FSL obligations for the 1 July 2016 to 30 June 2017 financial year.
To ensure we can meet our collection obligations, we have determined that the FSL charges should be revised and the following new rates will be effective from 16 July 2016.
Fire / ISR/ Consequential Loss / Commercial Strata 31.5% 40.0%
Residential Strata / Bed & Breakfast 17.5% 20.0%
We will review these rates on a regular basis through the financial year to determine necessary adjustments with the intention of reducing the rates over the year to zero % prior to July 2017.
MESSAGE FROM THE NSW EMERGENCY SERVICES LEVY INSURANCE MONITOR
Reductions in insurance premiums caused by changes to the funding of emergency services
The way the NSW Government funds the Emergency Services agencies is changing – there will no longer be a levy on your insurance policy.
Currently, individuals and businesses insuring property in NSW contribute to the Emergency Services Levy as part of their insurance premiums. This levy supports the work of Fire and Rescue NSW, the NSW Rural Fire Service and the NSW State Emergency Service. These vital community services help NSW residents and businesses protect their property from fire, flood, storms and other natural disasters.
Your current Emergency Services Levy is detailed on your insurance policy statement.
For policies commencing from 1 July 2017, the NSW Government intends that the Emergency Services Levy will no longer be included as part of the cost of your property insurance. This means that insurance premiums will be lower than would otherwise be the case.
The NSW Government appointed Professor Allan Fels AO and Professor David Cousins AM as the Emergency Services Levy Insurance Monitor and Deputy Monitor, respectively, to head an independent agency overseeing the removal of the Emergency Services Levy. The Monitor aims to ensure that any cost savings arising from the removal of the Emergency Services Levy are passed on in full.
From 2017-18, funding for the emergency services agencies will be collected alongside local council rates. Councils will clearly show the new levy as a separate item on your council rates notice. This change in the method of collecting funding for those agencies is intended to ensure all property owners contribute their fair share to the cost of emergency services, rather than only those choosing to insure their property. The Government has indicated this change will not reduce the funds available to the emergency services agencies.
Please get in touch if you would like further information.
If you have any questions about how this change will impact the cost of your insurance, please contact Axis Underwriting Services Pty Ltd.
If you would like further information on the insurance side of Emergency Services Levy Reform and the removal of the ESL you can contact the Monitor on Ph: 1300 607 723 or enquiries@eslinsurancemonitor.nsw.gov.au or www.eslinsurancemonitor.nsw.gov.au
If you require further information about the property levy side of Emergency Services Levy Reform and the new ESPL, please email your enquiries to ESPL.info@treasury.nsw.gov.au.
By Axis|Media Release, NSW Emergency Services Levy|September 27, 2016
Axis Underwriting Services is here to stay
Brokers will have seen media reports announcing the withdrawal of International Insurer – Axis Specialty Australia.
We would like to confirm and reassure you that:
Axis Underwriting has no relationship with Axis Specialty or Axis Capital, and is not closing or withdrawing from any product lines.
Axis Underwriting is a leading Underwriting Agency backed by Lloyd’s, and have been dedicated to serving Australian brokers for over 15 years.
Axis Underwriting continues to provide solutions to our broker partners through our specialist product lines:
Hard to Place Property
Should you have any questions or concerns, please contact us:
Gary Dawson
E gary@axisunderwriting.com.au
Underwriting Manager
E jeff@axisunderwriting.com.au
Emily Walker
Manager NSW
E e.walker@axisunderwriting.com.au
Willem de Graaf
Manager QLD
E w.degraaf@axisunderwriting.com.au
By Axis|Axis, Industry News, Media Release|October 8, 2015
New Liability Team Appointment – Alix Matthews
We are pleased to announce that our Liability team is growing. Alix Matthews has joined Axis to assist Gerry Craig in the development of our Liability portfolio. Alix has a wealth of experience placing difficult Liability risks into Lloyd’s in her previous role at SRS.
We continue to consider a broad range of Liability risks including; Manufacturing, Importing, Wholesaling, Retailing, Contracting and Property Owners among others, and are always happy to discuss your client’s needs.
The Risk Appetite Matrix has been updated on our website to provide a clear outline of risks we can consider.
Contact your Axis Underwriter or our Liability team:
Gerry Craig
E g.craig@axisunderwriting.com.au
Alix Matthews
E a.matthews@axisunderwriting.com.au
By Axis|Axis, Media Release|May 20, 2015
Axis has relocated!
The team at Axis Underwriting are excited to announce the relocation of our offices in both Melbourne and Sydney.
Axis Managing Director Gary Dawson said, “The ongoing success of Axis has seen us quickly outgrow our offices, creating the need for us to move into larger spaces”.
Along with the change of our addresses, Axis also has new phone numbers you can contact us on. For all new contact details please refer below.
You can now find Axis Melbourne on Collins Street:
Level 5, 90 Collins Street
Ph. 03 8660 7000
You can now reach Axis in Sydney at:
Level 11, 23 Hunter Street
By Axis|Media Release|December 17, 2014
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An awful lot of people are calling Chelsea Clinton stupid for saying it's bad that her great-grandmother did not have access to family planning services.
At The Blaze: "Isn’t this basically like saying you’re sad to be alive today?"
Well, no, it is not. Otherwise, I'd have to be happy about Hitler, since my parents met in the Army in World War II.
We all owe our existence to countless murders and rapes that have occurred through the ages. When we say we are happy to be alive, we are inherently accepting the nonexistence of the completely different set of persons who would be alive today if the past did not contain its many horrors. We could never express sorrow over events in the past if we had to refrain from implicitly regretting everything that happened as a consequence of those events.
Talking about the past isn't like time travel fiction. Chelsea wasn't like Marty in "Back to the Future" (who needs to make sure that his parents, who aren't a loving couple in the present, really do get married, or he will never be born).
Tags: Chelsea, hitler, murder, Planned Parenthood, science fiction, stupid
But still, she could have phrased it more artfully.
Or Dr Freud was right again.
somefeller said...
I'm glad you added the stupid tag for this one. Seems appropriate.
Pogo said...
The conclusion is not that she's sad to be alive, but that she didn't recognize the inevitable outcome of the lament over the lack of at-will abortions in that bygone era.
It looks pretty foolish, at a minimum.
rhhardin said...
Maybe she's resenting being ugly.
FWIW, given that she was shown having to be poured out of half the pubs around Oxford in her college days, it lends some credence to the idea she wishes she'd never been born.
Who in their right mind would want those two as parents?
But why does she have to have any feelings at all about abortion on behalf of her great grandparents?
It was a stupid thing to say in an over-effort to personalize PP services. IRS about her because its about her great grandparents, and that makes PP very very special to her. Apparently.
So criticize away, I say.
I suspect you know a lot more about that than she does, rhardin.
Chelsea needs to become new commenter on Althouse.
She has that sneaky way of confronting other people's hot buttons without saying she is smarter than them, although she may be.
Perhaps being in the Bill and Hill's giant shadows and many crossfires for so many years tempered her style.
Bender said...
We all owe our existence to countless murders and rapes that have occurred through the ages. When we say we are happy to be alive, we are inherently accepting the nonexistence of the completely different set of persons who would be alive today if the past did not contain its many horrors.
Way to twist things around to a completely backward mindset that actually promotes death as a moral good.
Chelsea Clinton exists not because someone killed some possible ancestor of hers but because the ancestor she did have was NOT killed.
In fact, if abortion were legal in the 60s, 50s, 40s, etc., then a LOT of today's pro-abortionists and pro-choicers would not be here because their parents, grandparents, or great-grandparents would never have been born.
And if it was "wrong" to deny them that "choice," then it is wrong for today's pro-abortionists and pro-choicers to exist at all.
jimbino said...
Whenever I condemn rampant breeding, someone brainless person is sure to retort that if it hadn't been for breeding, where would I be?
She obviously has a great future in politics. Maybe Nebraska or Missouri would be willing to elect her, given their past and present preferences.
Thus spake the expert.
Sad to say, Miss Chelsea is not attractive and gets her looks from Mommy, who's had loads of work (feminist protestations to the contrary) done over the years.
Maybe she resents not looking more like Daddy, although Willie's ugliness is all internal.
"The conclusion is not that she's sad to be alive, but that she didn't recognize the inevitable outcome of the lament over the lack of at-will abortions in that bygone era."
What is "the inevitable outcome of the lament"? Could you be more clear?
I really don't know what you are trying to say?
What looks "foolish"?
If women had more control over their reproductive lives back then... what?
The Planned Parenthood slogan was "Every child a wanted child." We'd have different individuals born if that were the situation.
We have different preferences about what level of control we think women should have. We can debate about that. But I don't see what's stupid about what Chelsea said.
Nearly everyone rejects infanticide... some people reject birth control... some reject even free choice over whom to marry or whether a woman can refuse to have sex with her husband.
There are lots of policy positions, but the most specious argument is you would not exist if that had been the policy.
We all do exist. An infinite number of others do not exist. Would you prefer those others to be here instead? That's never the question.
It is the question who should come into being in the future. Chelsea is expressing the preference for planned, wanted children. Looking toward the future, that makes sense.
You might want to say, no, accidental conceptions are actually a great part of building the next generation of human beings.
Go ahead, make that argument then.
jacksonjay said...
Watching Chelsea on NBC convinced me she was stupid long ago!
El Pollo Raylan said...
No, that's generic and covers a lot of people. You'd be more specific and on point (not to mention stupid and nihilistic) if you said or implied that it was too bad your great grandmother didn't abort your grandparent. Anyone would be. Misanthropy appears to be very popular these days among the dendritic dead enders.
It isn't like she has given any indications of being particularly smart. Her whole life has been lived in privilege. She hasn't had to deal with anything like the average American citizen has had to. Is it really surprising that she has no mooring in her paradigm?
This lack of attachment to a normal persons life will make her a great progressive. Most of them seem to start off with inherited wealth. And how many attractive progressive women are there really? If you look around a homely lady like Chelsea fits right in.
madAsHell said...
Hillary keeps pushing her as tomorrow's savior, but she seems rather reluctant.
I don't know why she insists on talking about her grandparents, because her lineage isn't very clear.
Your analysis makes about as much sense as putting a rock on your head so you can tell everyone that you have a lot on your mind. She has been raised to believe that family planning is the answer to population control and abortion is merely a procedure, not the murder of an innocent human being. She believes that her grandmother would have never chosen to abort her precious mother.
What Chelsea said is no more stupid than Obama saying he does not want his daughters punished with a baby-----so he supports Planned Parenthood and even late term abortion.
Not far fetched to conclude Obama thinks his mother was punished for having premarital sex with Obama Sr when she became pregnant (unmarried teenager like Chelsea's great grandmother ) and subsequently punished some more when she gave birth to Obama.
But clearly Obama is glad he was born--yes?
jr565 said...
This reminds me of the scene in It's A wonderful life where Clarence is showing George his alternate universe and shows him his dead brothers grave.
Clarence:Clarence: [explaining] Your brother, Harry Bailey, broke through the ice and was drowned at the age of nine.
George Bailey: That's a lie! Harry Bailey went to war! He got the Congressional Medal of Honor! He saved the lives of every man on that transport!
Clarence: Every man on that transport died. Harry wasn't there to save them, because you weren't there to save Harry.
So, people shouldn't wish their grandmas had access to abortions, because it might mean that you wouldn't exist. If Clinton's great grandma had an abortion it might have meant Clinton was never born and so never became president. And then Chelsea would never have been born.
Wishing for a capability for women in the past that would retroactively remove you from the world may not be the worlds best idea. Unless you don't care that you're in the world. If that's the case, then carry on.
I'm not sure how Chelsea Clinton's looks became an issue here, but she is an attractive young woman and I am quite confident she's much higher on the desirability food chain (for a whole host of reasons) than those making comments about her appearance here. But that's no surprise. The Clintons have a talent for drawing out the grumbles from those who have much to grumble about. Actually, now that I say that, I see how here looks became an issue here.
Chelsea Clinton appers to be a quite nice young matron, and she should stick to that.
Do not go on TV and say things!
I posit Chelsea's subconscious is saying aborting Hillary would have been wonderful. It's too damn late now.
Ann Althouse wrote:
More than a million a year not existing since the passage of Roe V. Wade. That is a pretty large number of nonexistent people who would have been born that would prove you wrong.
All pro choicers owe their existence in this world to the fact that their parents chose life over abortion.
You get to have an opinion about rights of women because your mom decided not to have a doctor suck out your brains in the womb.
The Baghdad Bob of Althouse does it again.
Only he would call Mrs Mezvinsky "attractive" and her position "on the desirability food chain" is solely based on who her parents were and not on any great abilities she has so far shown the world, which is more a European construct than an American one.
As creeley noted in a previous post, "Most of what being liberal is about these days is feeling superior, as somefeller now demonstrates".
I do agree with him Mrs Mezvinsky's look shouldn't be the issue here, but trying to convince us she's all that and a bag of chips is not flying.
"What looks "foolish"?"
Trying to stick up for someone who said something stupid looks foolish. Chelsea was also probably trying to push the lie that planned parenthood does something other than abortions or that it isn't a giant slush fund for liberals to launder tax dollars into their political campaigns.
"Go ahead, make that argument then."
Funny how we bring up Hitler in this post. Planned Parenthood has been from the beginning an attempt to bring the final solution to the inner city poor blacks. Only bringing wanted children into the world indeed.
"Looking toward the future, that makes sense."
But she's not looking towards the future. She's looking into the past, and wishing it were different for some reason. That reason appears to be a desire to take a contemporary political argument and anachronistically project it into some arbitrary time in the past. "I wish Spartacus had had a Piper Cub!"
If we're going back to Hitler, then lets go back to Sanger:
"More children from the fit, less from the unfit -- that is the chief aim of birth control."
So, less retards, less feeble, less blacks and minorities. It's really bad that more in the minority communities didn't have more family planning clinics back in the days of Chelseas grandparents, because then, you know, we wouldn't be burdened with as many unfit minorities today.
Chelsea is stupid.
The left, as a collective, are stupid.
Here's your waffle, thanks for participating.
We all owe our existence to countless murders and rapes that have occurred through the ages. This is The Essence of the Pain-and-Butter Room.
"You know, I'll bet Caracalla really regretted giving all those barbarians a Path to Citizenship!"
dhagood said...
one can make the argument that having only "planned, wanted children" in the future makes sense. that is not chelsea clinton's argument as she was looking into the past.
it is generally stupid to start down the historical "if only" thought process. "if only my grandmother had access to on-demand abortions..." "if only penicillin had been available during the first world war..."
"if only my aunt had wheels, she'd be a teacart" makes as much sense as what chelsea clinton said.
finally, i find young ms clinton mildly attractive, but i'm not impressed by her public utterances. i am also very tired of the ad hominem argument, usually expressed against women, that the quality of their ideas are dependent on their personal beauty or lack thereof.
And Chelsea's unmarried, teenaged maternal great-grandparents would certainly be considered unfit.
I know several people who were at McKinsey when she was hired as a management consultant straight out of Oxford; none of them were surprised that she washed out soon after.
and paco beats me to my argument by nine minutes. well played, sir.
Remember, when we point out that racism and eugenics are at the heart of progressive ideology, we are the racists.
Also I think it is important to point out that Chelsea probably thought she had nothing to fear from PP and rightly so. She was highborn and important. Only the poor babies and black kids have anything to fear from PP.
I wonder how the Clinton machine intends to set Chelsea on the path to the presidency?
I love how the left just presumes their policy preferences = good.
Access to "family planning services" (WTF is that, anyway?) is a good! Good for you, good for society!
So there, tea party dummies!
My good are these people embarrassing.
HAHAHAHA. I am sure Sarah Palin appreciates your crocodile tears. Because her looks were treated SO fairly by progressives you know.
Chelsea is expressing the preference for planned, wanted children. Looking toward the future, that makes sense.
Actually, it makes no fucking sense at all since "the future" is how it is done in China.
You get really, really dumb Ann when you discuss abortion, religion, or gay marriage.
In the Pain-and-Butter Room All the Negated Souls Witness in Mute Horror.
I know. It is racist to disagree with them.
Margaret Sanger herself had a large family. Her mother died of TB, young and had 9 children. And Sanger blamed her early death on having so many children.
Now, if Margaret Sanger's mom had acces to family planning, maybe she wouldn't have had Margaret Sanger or 7 or 8 of her other brothers and sisters. Which ones did Margaret think should never have existed?
""What is "the inevitable outcome of the lament"? Could you be more clear?"
No Hillary. No Chelsea.
Why you think that there'd have been someone else is unclear, given the abortion-led demographic decline now evident among whites in the US, Europe and Japan.
Not following the inevitable logic.
"If women had more control over their reproductive lives back then... what?"
You mean if murder were allowed then as now? Fewer people.
"We'd have different individuals born if that were the situation."
Not true. Fewer people from the aborters, sometimes none.
"You might want to say, no, accidental conceptions are actually a great part of building the next generation of human beings."
Accidental?
Abortion is to family planning what suicide and murder are to estate planning.
From Sangers biography:
Moreover, Margaret’s mother bore most of the responsibilities for this brood alone, for her father was a lovable but impractical political activist whose family lived in poverty. From her youth, she resolved that she would not repeat her mother’s sad history.
ANd she only got to make that decision because her mother didnt' abort her in the first place. Note, her dad not making enough money to support the family should have been grounds, under Sangers arguments for forced sterilization.
BDNYC said...
Chelsea is not stupid, but she's an untalented and boring mediocrity. Here, she made a pretty lame comment about the importance of women having access to family planning services. Nothing more, nothing less.
No, she wasn't wishing for her own demise.
SteveR said...
Yeah its all about promoting unfettered abortion now and in the future. Jay is right, there's a clear outcome in a culture where human life is devalued.
From the stage at the recent Women Deliver conference, former US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s daughter Chelsea revealed that her much-admired maternal grandmother was the child of unwed teenage parents who “did not have access to services that are so crucial that Planned Parenthood helps provide.”
Chelsea’s grandmother was born of an unintended pregnancy.
And if they did have those services what would that have meant? That Chelsea's maternal grandmother wouldn't have existed. Since she wouldn't have existed, neither would Hillary, and therefore neither would Chelsea.
Wouldn't Chelsea's maternal grandmother be exactly the type of baby that Sanger would say shouln't be born? Unplanned, by people who can't take care of them.That was the whole reason Sanger promoted Abortoins and famly plannning. So that Chelseas's maternal grandmother wouldnt' exist.
We all owe our existence to countless murders and rapes that have occurred through the ages.
Attempted murders I could see as a defensible statement as any attempted evil can unite people in a defense of the good.
The other part about rape bringing people together in the creation of new life is one I might otherwise advise you to rethink. But since you're a conservative, you probably don't see the problem in that idea that Akin, Mourdock, Walsh, Rivard, Koster, et al now do.
Personally, I'd be glad to know that I don't harbor the genetic neurological "endowment" of those with the urge to violate others and wreck the gene pool by force, polluting it with the potential for future generations of sociopaths. But then, I realize that I'm in the political minority on this blog. Little things like that are probably one of the reasons why.
"Chelsea is expressing the preference for planned, wanted children. Looking toward the future, that makes sense."
Do you really think that's her argument? Pro- and anti-abortion people tend to talk past each other, and this is a good example. If you believe that abortion is murder, then why does it change things because the non-aborted kids (who are obviously not part of the crime) are planned and wanted?
Perhaps one might want to say that, but perhaps not. Perhaps one might merely want to say that Chelsea's statement was stupid and obviously self-defeating on the face of it in a way that you seem to want to deny. She might really not exist. This isn't hard to figure out, is it?
Jupiter said...
"We have different preferences about what level of control we think women should have. We can debate about that. But I don't see what's stupid about what Chelsea said."
Ms. Clinton's expressed wish was clumsy. Either her grandmother would have aborted her mother, and Chelsea would not exist, or her grandmother would not have aborted her mother, and her lack of "access" to "services" would have been irrelevant. Her failure to see that obvious conclusion before she opened her rather attractive mouth may not be stupidity, but it was certainly the opposite of wit.
It's a rare woman who gives homage and appreciation to the suspected rapists in her pedigree for simply contributing.
No one ever said that Althouse was typical. But if in this regard she is, I'd certainly be curious to know that.
It's kind of funny that conservatives revile the idea of the chimps and bacteria in our lineage. But let's celebrate the rapists! If it weren't for them - (but not a lowly flatworm), we wouldn't be here - or so they tell me.
"Talking about the past isn't like time travel fiction. Chelsea wasn't like Marty in "Back to the Future" (who needs to make sure that his parents, who aren't a loving couple in the present, really do get married, or he will never be born)."
In fact though it is a bit like that. FIrst off, Chelsea is saying she wishes the past were different for her maternal grandmother. So, what would be the outcome of her history if in fact her maternal grandmother were able to abort the child produced out of wedlock? No Hillary, and if no Hillary no Chelsea as we know them because their future as we know htem relies on her maternal grandmohter not having an abortion.
Gabriel Hanna said...
@Bender:Chelsea Clinton exists not because someone killed some possible ancestor of hers but because the ancestor she did have was NOT killed.
Every link the chain of events had to have happened the way it did Chelsea Clinton would not exist.
Otherwise you reject cause and effect.
Rhythm and Balls said "It's kind of funny that conservatives revile the idea of the chimps and bacteria in our lineage."
It's kind of funny that you think that. I try not to stereotype people, but you're fitting into a leftist stereotype so well that it's getting difficult.
FedkaTheConvict said...
For want of a sheep's intestine, Dorothy Howell was conceived
For want of a "rubber", Hillary Rodham was born
For want of a "pill", Chelsea Clinton was born
The problem is that so many of our elites who hold themselves out as being smarter than the rest of us are either wholly incapable of thinking through the consequences of their ideas (which does make them stupid) or they are intentionally obtuse.
Which is worse?
It's A Wonderful Life the Chelsea Clinton Version.
Clarence shows her a book of presidents. She reads the blurb about the 42 President being George W Bush.
Chelsea: That's a lie! My dad was the 42nd president. He served two terms and was the third youngest president ever.
Clarence: Your dad never became president because he never married your mom. Because she didn't exist. He instead married Jane So and so and they had 4 daughters, none of whom were named Chelsea. He never went into politics but instead became a successful saxophonoist and talk show host.
You see Chelsea, you owe your life to the fact that your grandma didn't abort her child.And that your mom similarly didnt' abort you.
You know, I'll bet Caracalla really regretted giving all those barbarians a Path to Citizenship!
More than he could believe.
Inability to habla Ingles will now be grounds to go on Disability.
The new RINO amendment allows permanent amnesty for overstaying a visa.
AmnestyCare waives many felonies for illegals.
Caracalla was a wuss.
Do like Mommy.
Marry a sociopathic empty suit and hector him there.
Darleen said...
what I don't get is how Chelsea *knows* if her great-great grandparents were NOT happy about the pregnancy and would have availed themselves of the PP abortion factory.
With a higher infant mortality in the past, most pregnancies were wanted, even if the first was a full-term that came only 7 months after the marriage.
Bob, do you conform to a stereotype by mistaking someone who states a political, if unfair (in your mind) reality with a caricature?
It's not a stereotype to acknowledge that the majority of political objection to accepting the fact of evolution is skewed politically. Unless you believe that facts are inherently stereotypical:
Do conservatives deny evolution? According to Gallup (Newport, 2012) 58% of Republicans think God created humans in their present form within the last 10,000 years, whereas the figure is "only" 41% among Democrats.
Point out to me any left-of-center groups agitating to suppress the teaching of evolution and promote its replacement with biblical creationist ideas or frauds like "intelligent design" and I'd be happy to call them out. I'm sure you'd only do the same when it comes to conservative groups too, right Bob?
When I think: "Who would give sage advice regarding procreation, child-rearing, and public policies on abortion?" Chelsea Clinton immediately comes to mind!
And, if you don't realize liberals know all about planning, and history is chalk full of their central planning success stories, then you're a tea party dummy!
So, shut up!
You obviously do not understand that her great-grandmother having that right and ability to abort her child would have been an existential and moral good, just like Hitler killing all those people was an existential and moral good so as to create the conditions where so many men and women could meet.
So who deserves more scorn, the not that bright child of a privilege who grew up in a bubbly because daddy was POTUS or the tenured law professor defending such idiocy?
the fact of evolution
That's fucking hysterical.
The "fact" seems to have no actual evidence regarding macro-evolution. Which is total coincidence, I'm sure.
Oh, and when can we get some links to the left going all hysterical about GMO's and vaccines causing autism? Those big science believers, them leftists!
Chip Ahoy said...
This is like trying to understand my sister. She's not even trying to make sense.
Chelsea, if we were to take her point, can express regret at her grandmother being born without that affecting her own existence because according to Chelsea she would have to be happy about something occurring to a party who also would not exist if her point about regret and PP were taken. Her point was not taken. Because Chelsea is too stupid. You honestly have to enter the magical Wonderland of Chelseaworld to follow her. It cannot be done. It is the three-dimensions reduced to two dimensions of Escher that make Chelseaworld impossible to follow the figures in line up the stairway, up around a corner, up around another, and another, then up the same stairway. Because Hitler!
There you go, Bob. 12:25. First conservative of the day (and what a surprise) to object to the fact that the structure and function of DNA in "big" organisms experience change in the same way that the DNA in "little" organisms do.
Sounds like all very science-y, and all, what with its scorn for science as a Breitbartian, evil institution. Because he put the word "big" in front of it! Genius!
So I have to conclude that Chelsea's view of the olden days of Grammy & Pappy Clinton is: Pappy Clinton just wantonly put his seed in Grammy Clinton's baby maker and there was no discussion about children, planning for children, or abstinence during fertile times or anything (they weren't Ivy Leaguer's you know!). And if Grammy Clinton didn't go along with this plan, I'm sure he beat her into submission.
So, family planning, wingnutz!!!
Are leftists objecting to and trying to change the teaching of immunology, Jay?
cold pizza said...
She is stupid. Her great-grandmother DID have access to "family planning services." Under the culture of the time, it was called "marriage."
Her great-grandparents also had access to condoms, abortionists, infant mortality, infanticide, and a world not crammed to the gills with self-suffering, "pity-me" whores. -CP
Saint Croix said...
Ideology is stupid when it's divorced from facts. She's wishing that her grandmother had access to (what?) birth control? Abortion?
There was birth control back then, the sponge and the condom. Both often failed, of course. There was a lot of ineffective birth control. And don't even get me started on the danger of abortion in 1940.
So is she just complaining about the past and bragging about how superior our technology is? It's a little ridiculous for any politician to go to a condom factory and talk about the Bad Old Days When There Were No Condom Factories.
"My poor grandmother did not have the internet."
If she gave that speech at Google, would we mock her?
Are leftists objecting to and trying to change the teaching of immunology
You don't really care, fucktard.
You have no clue what conservatives object too and completely overlook the comedic denial of science on the part of the left.
Because you get to pretend the left is for science.
That's what moron's like you do. Life is easier when you pretend.
Another line from a movie:
“It's a hell of a thing; killin' a man. You take away everything he ever had and ever would have.”
See Chelsea, if you take away your grandmother from existence, because your great grandmother never had her you also take away everything she ever had or would have. Which is your family.
Now granted we can't know what will happen in the future, but you're talking from the future about the past. So we do know what happens.
Bottom line, Chelsea Clinton would very likely not be standing there making a speech about her wishing her grandmother had the right to abort, since Chelsea Clinton would be less than a speck of dust in the air.
@ Althouse
"Well, no, it is not. Otherwise, I'd have to be happy about Hitler, since my parents met in the Army in World War II. "
Whether you're happy about Hitler or whatnot is irrelevant. Clinton bemoaning the lack of abortion being available for an *ancestor* does indeed imply very clearly that Chelsea Clinton does not think very deeply of anything and that if you apply logic to her statement that in fact she is bemoaning her state of existence.
What else is there? Isn't there a binary solution set at work here? If abortion is available then her ancestor could have completely eliminated the chain of people who resulted in Chelsea Clinton. If that isn't possible then there is no point to her statement. If it is possible then she looks like a complete imbecile for having said that.
Logic is a pretty flower that sometimes smells bad.
My father, who is conservative, bemoans technology all the time. He complains how nobody looks at each other or talks to each other. They're all looking down at their phones. He sees technology as dehumanizing.
The internet is amazing. I love it. And yet, doesn't it change us? Perhaps make us colder, meaner, a little more isolated?
And maybe those comments are dumb, too. Conservatives like the past and progressives feel superior to the past. And of course I am conservative. But I would suggest that attitude is both more respectful, and more helpful. If we feel smug and superior to the past, we are doomed to repeat it.
For the record, I care that established science since Jenner is attacked and misconstrued by dopes who can't separate a concern about mercury preservatives from the fact that autism rates have nothing to do with vaccination. I argue about it as often as I need to, not that you care.
But we were talking about conservatives calling out evolution deniers, which you implied that they do... until you proved the point by denying that evolutionary change is a process from which "big" animals are also not exempt.
But hey, it fit the Breitbartiste rhetoric, so there must be something to it, right?
...what conservatives object too...
I also object to (not too) conservatives or anyone else making a complete abomination of simple rules of spelling and grammar.
Minor mistakes and typos are ok, though. ;-)
"It is the question who should come into being in the future. Chelsea is expressing the preference for planned, wanted children. Looking toward the future, that makes sense."
Except her grandmother wasn't planned. And Chelsea is looking towards the past, and saying she wishes it were different in the past for her great grandmother.
That her great grandmother should have had the chance to deal with an unplanned pregnancy. I read that as aborting it.
And the consequences are therefore, no Chelsea Clinton.
And maybe she wasn't talking about technology. Maybe she's talking about politics. Do we know? Does she know?
Is she Sandra Fluke now?
Nobody's against birth control. It's widely available.
Liberalism is like a football team that will only play when their opponent does not exist.
"We like birth control! And racism is bad."
If she's a cheerleader, or trying out for Miss America, I would cut her some slack. But if you are giving a speech about the #1 abortion provider in the U.S., how about some honesty?
The way liberals hate to talk about abortion, it's almost like they're ashamed or something.
Althouse, as always, is excluded from this criticism. Since clearly she is willing to engage, discuss, and fight for abortion rights. And she does so with both honesty and compassion.
But giving a speech about birth control and your grandmother at a Planned Parenthood clinic? Bah.
This is a fun game, really.
If the British hadn't mishandled the Irish Great Famine, my great-great-great grandfather wouldn't have come to the U.S.
If Hitler hadn't come to power, my husband's mother and her ethnic German family wouldn't have left Poland as refugees in the 50s.
And my husband's father's family wouldn't have left Berlin for safety in Bavaria.
If the spread of tuberculosis had been stopped by the 1860s, my great-great-grandmother's first husband wouldn't have died and she wouldn't have met my great-grand-father and given birth to my great-grandmother. Or maybe my great-great-grandfather wouldn't have died of TB (G-G-Grandma had bad luck) afterwards, she wouldn't have been an impoverished washerwoman, and my great-grandmother's life might not have met my great-grandfather.
There is no rational reason to defend Chelsea's ignorant, illogical statement unless one is an unrepentant librul ie. Ritmo and I guess Althouse.
Is she talking about abortion? Isn't that subliminal hostility against one of her parents?
"When my grandmother was pregnant with my mom, I wish abortion was available." Isn't that an odd thought to have? She's focusing on her grandmother, and what (she imagines) pregnancy cost her. But we know there's a child. And so to us we see a hostility against mom.
And of course it is stupid for children to insult their parents.
"You're a bitch!"
"Well, you're a son of a bitch."
"Oh."
But of course she did not frame it in those terms. She did not say, "pregnant with my mom." (Or dad, I don't know who it was). She has dehumanized the baby--her parent--and is thinking solely of her grandmother in isolation.
But that's what drives pro-lifers up the wall. There is a baby, a specific baby, your parent.
Re-framing the question introduces parental hostility, right? And I don't mean to suggest that. My suggestion is that she has mentally eliminated the baby, her parent. She's wiped them out of the picture.
That's what is kind of scary about liberalism. How they are so willing to wipe out humanity (in this case, your own parent) in order to make an ideological point.
She was talking about her mother's grandparents who were unmarried teenagers.
I can only make sense of this by assuming that the people resulting from random events are random and meaningless themselves, and so, yes, the present would be different but so what?
But in fact I think that people are unique and valuable and non-random. So I find Chelsea's comment risible, or maybe evil.
If the butterfly hadn't flapped its wing a minute ago, something later might not happen. (That's not OK. Mixing past and future.)
If my dog hadn't eaten this morning, she might not be farting now. (That's not OK. Scatological.)
If I don't strike this match, the grill might not light, and we probably won't eat what we thought. (That seems OK. Nuanced.)
Another aspect of this that strikes me as stupid is the Cult of Birth Control. And I like birth control!
You know why I like birth control? Helps me get laid.
I daresay that's why man invented birth control.
I wish women would be a little more cynical about the Miracle of Birth Control. I know you like it. But why do men like it? Why did men invent it?
50 years into the sexual revolution, and we have discovered that breast cancer rates have jumped significantly for women, and the pill is one of the reasons.
Isn't that, you know, kind of a front page headline?
If Chelsea Clinton was a right-wing dummy, she'd be giving a speech talking about how glad she was her grandmother never had the opportunity to get drunk, go to an orgy and get a tattoo, herpes and breast cancer. Chelsea would shout, "My grandmother learned how to knit sweaters!" And all the right-wing dummies would applaud.
Ah, sorry. She nuked her granny!
Seriously, isn't she complaining about technology? "My great-grandmother never had a cell phone. And she did not know what a pizza was. Can we have a moment of silence, please? She did not have access to a pizza, or Chinese food, or air conditioning. I don't even think they had sodomy back then."
Your great-grandmother. Are we still in the 20th century?
Here is Hillary's ancestor tree. Lot of working class people. No word on the "countless murders and rapes" that made HIllary, Hillary.
I feel like there were a lot of good-looking people in my timeline.
Wanna throw up in your mouth?
Picture her parents (Web and Hillary) conceiving.
That IS Web Hubbell's face.
This thread is golden because it managed to bring out not one but two species of monomaniacs: Clinton-haters and anti-abortion activists. Well played, Althouse.
As well as the Leftier-than-Thou Conservative-hating monomaniacs.
Dimly played.
Interesting view of Willie in that case, and maybe Hillary!, too.
Could be Grammy rode Pappy every chance she could and didn't think about consequences (apparenly the Clintons are like that).
Trooper York said...
Oh, noes, here we goes again.
Don't forget progressive supporters of eugenics and rape apologists who still support grabby Bill.
somefeller wrote:
So if you question the logic of a Clinton, you suddenly became a Clinton hater?
If this was said by anyone other than a Clinton, the logic would still apply.
The basic question, which Althouse rejects, still holds true: "isnt this basically like saying you're sad to be alive today?"
When your statement speaks agaisnt your own self interest and survival as a family, it's not Clinton hatred to point that out.
John Althouse Cohen said...
There's no way to know how many children have been born because of legal abortion. A woman who's forced to give birth might hate raising the child and make sure not to have any more. If she had had an abortion, she might have waited till she was ready, willing, and able to have kids, then happily had 2 or more kids. Those kids will tend to be healthier, more productive members of society, and those kinds of people might be more likely to have kids. They'll also be less likely to be incarcerated, and incarceration does tend to prevent people from having kids.
From Inwood said...
Prof A
Good grief. As many have explained to you, you're defending the indefensible here. You'd demolish a student who attempted to reason as you have here.
In any event, it's rather amazing that when some people speak before a friendly audience to which they're trying to appeal they carelessly step into s**t, OOPS make that fall into such laughable illogic, as Chelsea did.
But not to worry Clintonistas, the LSM will cover for her & the late-nite comedians — and, alas, our Prof A — will give her a pass.
Unlike Sarah Palin who was ridiculed on SNL & a New Yorker cover cartoon for something that she never said.
Or, on the other hand, perhaps she, like The Anointed one, has made it via grade inflation and whatever is recorded on her college transcripts (presumably not discoverable by NSA surveillance, ha, ha) may not be an adequate reflection of her intelligence.
Is there a credible study you can cite that supports this view?
Or perhaps she hasn't bothered to understand the need for clear thought in public speech, relying on glibness to confuse a fawning public.
Strelnikov said...
You're analogy is painfully inapt.
Where as what you describe would require your ancestors to be thankful for everything that happened, or didn't, in the world since the beginning of time, culminating in you, Chelsea specifically stated she was sorry her ancestors did not have the benefit of Planned Parenthood's services when one of them turned up pregnant. That means she was bemoaning the lack of one of two things: contraceptives or abortion. (What? You think it was mammograms?) Either way, if PP had been there to provide their highly needed services, no Chelsea. Oh, it was stupid alright. Painfully so.
Or shall we say about Chelsea's words something like:
What difference at this time does it make?
There's no way to know how many children have been born because of legal abortion.
A son follows his mother in plucking his eyeballs out and then claims there is no way to know if there is anything out there.
Let's see -- since 1973, two generations ago, there have been about 55 million abortion in this country alone. Of course, not all of those would have resulted in live births so, being generous with a 10 percent miscarry rate, that leaves 50 million persons who would have been born but for being killed in utero. Figure 25 million of them were female.
How many children would those 50 million people have had? Given the current birthrate, one can surmise at least one child per couple, or another 25 million. So we are talking about 75 million people are missing today give or take, with 50 million intentionally killed and 25 million never conceived as a result.
Well, of course her grandparents didn't have access to Planned Parenthood. They weren't in the undesireable ethnic group targeted by Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood's early founders and the progressive movement for genocide.
Chelsea is the smartest, most well-adjusted and trustworthy Clinton I've ever seen.
Another way of thinking of this is towards the future. It seems to me those who are higher up in the socio-economic ladder tend to have fewer kids, sometimes none. Some might say they are more responsible. I say they are committing a kind of cultural genocide. And they think they are smart, righteous people for doing it.
A lot more is going on than that. There is a kind of antagonism towards women who don't want to work. The government has set up the environment such that it requires more money per household than ever before, because so much of it has to go to the reproductive class.
For whatever reason, that group shows very little adaptation to the 21st Century work force.
So while it sounds good on paper, the empirical evidence indicates the broad social mores are not working, and it's going to bring this country down, unfortunately.
The pill is one of those things. Perhaps the pill would be OK if the family unit were put back together. But that seems like a lost battle.
You're right, of course, that's why there's the Roe Effect.
It's also why white Democrats want to import 35 million Mexicans (they're more fertile).
PS Maybe we should stop calling them RINOs and start calling them DIABNs (Democrats In All But Name), might be more accurate.
MCD said...
I don't care what Chelsea has to say, and I don't know why anyone else should either. She has been escorted past people who actually worked their ways up at a hedge fund and a top news organization and, now, has been named chair of a foundation. They don't get the chance; she does. And now we have to listen to her I'll-informed, anti-historic views? Meh.
The problem with the need for family planning services is that it implies two things. First, that women were inadequately educated or they refused to accept the terms and circumstances of reality. Second, that women are incapable of self-moderating, responsible behavior. Either way, every time a woman visits a family planning service, we individually, and as a society, lose a little liberty, and, with Planned Parenthood's idea of service, we suffer a general devaluation of human life.
n.n., anybody who says women don't have a little head that can cause all kinds of trouble if it's allowed to do the thinking in the same way men have hasn't looked at any history or literature.
Or "reality" TV.
Eeyore Rifkin said...
Hitler wasn't the proximate cause of anybody's birth. Sheesh.
Dust Bunny Queen said...
I agree with the untalented mediocrity.
However, the stupid part is that she doesn't seem to be able to think through the ramifications of her statement of wishing her Grandmother had access to family planning....being abortion and birth control. Had her Grandmother those "tools" at her disposal, the butterfly effect of her grandmother or grandfather not being born to procreate and create Hillary, her mother, would mean that Chelsea wouldn't exist.
Butterfly effect wherein Hillary doesn't exist. Doesn't marry Bill Clinton. Maybe Bill doesn't exist either. Doesn't have Chelsea.......and we wouldn't have had to put up with all of their bullshit for these last 20 some years.
Maybe not such a bad thing after all. But the concept seems to have totally eluded dimbulb Chelsea.
It's beyond question that without Hitler, I would not have been born.
How many people have this clear of a view? My father was drafted because there was a war. My mother became a WAC, because there was a war.
I must also credit the Great Depression.
And I was a planned child.
Chelsea is expressing the preference for planned, wanted children.
She's not pushing against her assumptions. She's not working her brain. Her comment is softsoap for the mind.
A smart comment to Planned Parenthood is that we have over 2 million unplanned pregnancies every year. And pro-lifers are upset because so many people are going to Planned Parenthood to end an unplanned pregnancy, and, to them, killing an unborn child.
"Abortion should be safe, legal, and rare." Bill Clinton said that. It's a rather famous comment. She could riff on that, and talk about ways to make abortion rare. She could challenge them! She could think outside the box.
She could mention that the founder of Planned Parenthood was opposed to abortion. Almost all the early feminists, who came along after her great-grandmother gave birth, were opposed to abortion. Why is that? Infanticide? Health risks to women?
She could talk about the rise in breast cancer rates since the 1960's. Is that related to the pill and/or abortion? And then she could talk about the way Komen was forced to continue to give money to Planned Parenthood. She could question that, push against it. Are we silencing debate about breast cancer because we love our reproductive autonomy so much?
She is a name, and the media listen to her, because the media is a celebrity business. She has an opportunity to say hundreds of interesting things.
She's got nothing. Sooner or later the media will stop reporting what she says, because it's mindless. It adds nothing.
"without Hitler, I would not have been born."
Well, there's always Tojo.
"I'm glad Hitler was around, because I wouldn't be here if Hitler hadn't existed."
It's kinda funny, Althouse went Godwin on her own argument!
"I wish somebody had shot Hitler in 1939. But if they had, I wouldn't be alive, and that would suck."
Your brain immediately jumps to logical issues. Chelsea's brain does not. It does not seem to occur to her that if her great-grandmother had access to family planning to stop an unwanted pregnancy (excited applause), "then I would not be here" (crickets).
No, it isn't beyond question.
I love the movie "SlidingnDoors"
Icepick said...
I just don't want to talk about Chelsea because that will only encourage her to think we care. Can't we talk about the new Royal instead? Or even North Kardashian West?
I mean, talking about those other two merely makes me want to bang my head against the wall, as opposed to drive an icepick through my ear.
Chelsea Clinton seems nice, and she probably is nice. I guess she's following in her parents footsteps, giving speeches about abortion, trying to create some sort of political life.
Would you vote for her? Has she done anything? Has she said anything?
It's hard to come out of your parent's shadow. The Bush daughters (and, I bet, the Obama daughters) avoid the spotlight. Chelsea seems to be seeking it out, right?
When should people in the media stop protecting her ("famous child alert!") and start challenging her? There's a reason nepotism is awful. And son-of-politician-celebrities suck.
I barely have any interest at all in anything Ronald Reagan Jr. has to say. And when I do have interest, it's more like celebrity gossip interest. What he is going to say about his famous father?
Why was Chelsea Clinton invited? What has she written or said that earned her the right of our attention? She's actually talking about her family. Which reminds us why we know who she is. So maybe Hillary told Chelsea this story? Was Hillary hostile to one of her parents? Maybe she was hostile to her stay-at-home, cookie-baking mother?
We don't know. But geez, I wish they had abortion in 1882! (Do we see the implicit hostility if one of the Clintons' numerous enemies had made that comment?)
I suspected that Hitler was ultimately responsible for this blog.
Jane Roe is pro-life now. She is hostile to the judicial opinion that was written about her specific case.
Perhaps because she gave birth to a daughter before the case was decided. And she gave her baby up for adoption. I don't know if she's close to her biological daughter, or they barely know each other. But knowing she exists, knowing how she wanted to abort her, has to weigh on her mind.
Jesse Jackson's mother was going to abort him. Her preacher talked her out of it. This made Jesse Jackson, not surprisingly, pro-life.
But we all know that liberals are inhospitable to pro-life arguments. So when he ran for President, he had to shut up about it.
Some of the most eloquent pro-life speakers are people whose moms tried to abort them. What do you say to these people? "I wish we had better abortion services so your mom could have made you disappear." Isn't that rather a hostile thing to say?
Abortion is not just an ideology, not just a "choice." It's a real event, in real people's lives. When you abort somebody, you make somebody disappear. That's why the failed abortions and the oops-I-cut-your-arm-off upset the party.
That is Ana Rosa Rodrigues. Nat Hentoff writes about her here.
Rodriguez, sorry.
Maybe she was hostile to her stay-at-home, cookie-baking mother?
That is pure, ugly speculation on my part. Rude!
On the other hand, Hillary was a Republican when she was young. And then she became a rabid-hater-of-Republicans.
Here is Hillary talking about baking cookies.
Note that video was put up by people who are proud of the comment! (Damn, those mommy wars are serious).
I watch that video and her hostility jumps out at me. I do not want to be like my mother!
Just a guess.
Hillary (or Bill) realized what bad public relations her statement was. And Hillary baked cookies to make amends. Maybe she was forced to bake cookies after one of the Clintons' famous fights.
"You're going to bake some fucking cookies, Hill!"
"No I'm not! Get one of your fucking flacks to bake the fucking cookies! And I'll say I baked them. But I'm not baking any cookies! Not for you! Not for anyone!"
But if I'm right, and Hillary does have some (submerged?) hostility to her stay-at-home mom, how does that weigh on how she raised her own daughter?
"My grandmother was pregnant with my mom. And they were young and they were forced to get married. She had no access to family planning. It's horrible how oppressed she was."
So that's a lot of unfounded suspicion coming from me. I can't prove that Hillary is hostile to her mother, or that Chelsea got this story from Hillary.
Feminists like to say, "the personal is political." And with the Clintons we might say, "the political is personal." And maybe I'm the bad guy, speculating on the Clinton's private off-the-record conversations with their daughter. But if she's going to regurgitate this mindless crap, well, I blame mama bird.
Sorry if I'm not impressed. If your mother rolled over after sex she might have had a boy. There is a huge amount of randomness. I'll go further. No one knows if the world of today would be better off had Hitler never been born. No one. Maybe the Soviets would have created the Bomb, and used their huge armies to conquer the world.
We could talk about the incredible, random journey that led to humans, and how unlikely your (or my) existence is. Vanishingly small. You have to live in the present, and make decisions from present conditions.
There are some things we ought to be able to agree on. Western Civilization is dying out.
Let's take, for example, your apparent belief that planning is good. Is it? Perhaps if you couldn't plan, more smart people would be born in proportion.
Furthermore, both Europe and the US are pulling in people who have very little in common with the kinds of ideas you profess. Why are you so suicidal to your own values? Will people who have so little affinity for these ideas allow them in the future?
Shouldn't you look to a society that can maintain and enhance your values in a constructive way, perhaps yielding that not all of them were so wonderful?
To me, the abdication of responsibility of women to their basic nature, on account of people telling them it's wrong, has been horrible for this country and Europe too.
In my view, the only hope is technology improvements outstrip the damage of the experiments that have empirically proven to not work. By that I mean genetic engineering, or robotics to increase capacity. These good things may counteract the reckless advances of feminism, Political Correctness, Multiculturalism, and leftism.
A smart comment to Planned Parenthood is that we have over 2 million unplanned pregnancies every year.
That's a bit like saying every theft in the US is a smart comment to the police. Actually, what it shows is that Planned Parenthood's work isn't done and it still has a big role in our society. But keep up with the monomania, Saint Croix!
The idea that it doesn't matter who's born, that everything is random anyway so what difference does it make if someone aborts a kid sounds like a theory that could justify almost any behavior, however awful.
If particular people do not matter, no one matters, and if no one matters, nothing is really evil. People get killed every day, why not you?
And the idea that people abort when they 'aren't ready' and then invest in a kid they really want has never been proven at all. Having killed off one sibling, their view of the second is inexorably changed. Love becomes conditional on the mood of the parent. What if they're 'not ready' for a teenager? What if they're not ready for bipolar disorder or chronic pain or ER visits?
No one is ever ready for parenthood. Not really. It's a bullshit concept.
Saint Croix:
Excellent commentary. I tend to focus on the bare essentials, but there is so much more directly and incidentally related which must be addressed.
Assuming that people do indeed desire positive progress (hat tip/shame), then we must consider the causes and consequences of normalizing abortion for the individual, society, and humanity. The political/marketing labels are clearly insufficient to properly characterize this issue.
That's a bit like saying every theft in the US is a smart comment to the police.
You see those breeders as bad and Planned Parenthood as the regulatory state that needs to keep them in line? Okay!
But keep up with the monomania, Saint Croix!
I will, as soon as I google it!
Captain Ahab is given as an example. That's a good example. I think it's a fair comment, but it doesn't really get you anywhere. Most of the amazing things in life are accomplished by people who are single-minded and passionate.
When I was young I had a teacher who said you need to cultivate your obsessions. And I thought that was a weird thing to say. Obsessions are bad, I don't want obsessions. Obsessions are ill!
Now that I'm older and wiser I think he was right.
Althouse, by the way, blogs every day. Have you noticed? She never takes a day off. I think that's amazing. I could never do that. I don't even begin to approach Althouse in terms of determination, persistence, and making-your-life-what-you-will.
One day I hope to make a movie about the Supreme Court and abortion. Got the screenplay ready to go!
edutcher:
Women are sexual creatures, and they have an ego, too. Who could have known? Still, the problem is normalization of dysfunctional behaviors.
The link between action and responsibility seems to be missing, and the solution has been to treat symptoms for profit. This missing link is evident throughout many facets of our society; but, it is most consequential in basic human behaviors.
Thanks n.n. I think abortion fascinates me because it involves sex (which I love). And it's possible that not having children has made me more passionate on the subject in middle age.
I don't like the society I am in. I watch pre-feminist movies like On the Town, and that's the society I want to be in. I love the way everybody is pursuing sex in that movie. And how happy the pursuit is, and how they are motivated by love. I just see that as a happier time. And of course it's art, it's fiction. (1949 was right after the Holocaust and the atom bomb!) But the art was more innocent. And the pursuit of sex was more innocent. Because, yes, abortion was illegal and babies could happen. So you needed to have love in your heart, and people knew it.
I'm staying at home tonight, watching Bye, Bye Birdie, which is a great movie about alpha/beta dynamics in men and the sexual desires of women. Good stuff!
You know, I've known more than a few filmmakers, mostly on the documentary or experimental film circuits, so I say this sincerely: I hope you succeed in your dream. No joke, if that's your artistic dream, go for it. I probably wouldn't watch the film, but I won't belittle an artist's dream project. This of course assumes you're more Ingmar Bergman than Ed Wood, but the latter's films are more fun to watch so maybe that wouldn't be so bad either.
Maybe Chelsea want's a few of her cousins snuffed.... I mean her great great grandma had other children, right?
The link between action and responsibility seems to be missing, and the solution has been to treat symptoms for profit.
Interesting point. Again, I would suppose that, in general, lower classes more often have abortion. Or should I say those who consume more than they produce.
In that sense, provided abortion happens prior to the fetus being alive (don't jump on it, but follow the reasoning), it is a good thing in that it provides more resources for the productive class, to do, among other things, procreate.
Ah, so you're perspective is romantic with responsibility. There is always a honeymoon phase, but maturity endows an individual with the capacity to distinguish between fantasy and reality, and to appreciate each in its own context.
My perspective is slightly different, perhaps more pragmatic. Actually, it seems to be more libertarian. I recognize that for us to enjoy optimal (i.e. reconcilable) liberty, we must be capable of self-moderating, responsible behavior. We must recognize and respect the intrinsic (i.e. not imparted or earned) value of human life and the unique dignity of each individual. This recognition and respect must be present throughout our evolution, from conception (or perhaps emergence of consciousness) to death.
It is likely because of this perspective that I have not focused on related issues as you have. Still, our perspectives are reconcilable, and your commentary is welcome and educational.
Thanks. Enjoy the movie.
Thanks somefeller!
I got 13 screenplays, actually. Cinema is another passion of mine. One of them, The Unelected, is all about the Supreme Court and Carhart. It's also got a romantic triangle between a Supreme Court Justice and his two clerks. And a dead body and a cover-up.
Another one is a love story with an unplanned pregnancy. Lot of sex in that one, and Christianity. There's some brief reference to abortion but it's not the focus.
My other 11 screenplays have nothing to do with abortion. But almost all of them are about sex! I think I really like sex or something.
I did a Hitchcock, you can see our animatic here. I made my protag a virgin, trying to keep sex out of the movie. And people were like, "why is she a virgin?" Even when I try, I can't escape sex.
Here is my thesis, which is probably my strongest movie so far.
I also did a movie book where I try to rank every single movie I have seen, with ad hoc commentary. That's an on-going insane project of mine. I'm approaching 5000.
Dante:
I recognize that argument. Unfortunately, I am not entirely pragmatic. My perspective is heavily influenced by an ideal state. It is my interest to reconcile this ideal and real state of existence.
There are other considerations, for example sponsoring corruption and dysfunction, which constrain any ideal, universal solution.
I am, in fact, looking for the optimal compromise. Perhaps you already know the criteria (e.g. principles) which guide my adaptive frame of mind.
Thanks, n.n.! Ditto.
pogo, that's a brilliant comment at 9:15.
I like the thesis film. It looks like the sort of film that was in the space I used to play in during an earlier life. The actress was particularly engaging, but the actor was a little emo-bro for my tastes. Keep it up, though it seems like the microcinema/experimental film fest scene is getting smaller while online video proliferates.
The actress was particularly engaging, but the actor was a little emo-bro for my tastes.
Her name is Chelsea. (Ironic!) She's not an actor and has no interest in being an actor. So of course she's awesome at it!
I noticed her because she was sewing. And I had never seen a 20-year-old sewing before. I just thought that was so feminine and cool.
She defriended me somewhere along the way, so I've lost track of her.
I think I yelled at her during the film shoot? She was doing two movies simultaneously (while working a job as a maid). And of course I'm not paying her anything. But one day she was like 2 hours late, and she had to leave several hours early, which put me in a panic.
Anyway, I had a blast that entire film shoot. Second best experience of my life. Almost as much fun as sex!
I did almost drown, though. We were doing a thing with a message in a bottle, and I was trying to be environmentally conscious and not pollute. So I would swim after the bottle. Riptide pulled me out. And I was in street clothes, which got incredibly heavy. And I was desperately swimming and not getting any closer to the shore. Utter panic!
And a voice in my head said, "maybe you can stand up." And I tried to touch bottom and my foot barely made it. So I walked out of the ocean instead of swimming. I was completely exhausted. And my entire crew had no idea I almost died. Kinda funny.
Anyway, Chelsea was awesome. I had a little crush on her but I kept it to myself.
That's me kicking water on her, by the way. The actor wasn't there. Or he was too nice, maybe? Anyway, I was splashing her with water. Maybe that's why she defriended me! The splashing.
I've been defriended by 3 women, I think? 3 or 4 that I've noticed. I've never been defriended by a woman I've slept with. Maybe I should start using that as a line. "If you sleep with me, you'll never defriend me." And it's true!
If Frick, Göring, Jodi, von Neurath, Rosenberg, and Seyss-Inquart hadn't been executed at Nuremberg, they'd've been on the hook for a heck a lot of child support. Does nobody think these things through?
So were a lot of other assholes. So what.
Had there not been a Hitler there would have some one else at another time and place and perhaps your parents would 't have met. And there would still be a whole lot of other assholes, just not us.
History happened. Here we are.
We all do exist. An infinite number of others do not exist. That is an accident of history. abortion being the purpose of policy.
Well. In my oldest daughters case a happy accident.I suspect, in the past, there were many happy accidents.
But lets look at it the other way. Do you want society, through policy, dictating when you get pregnant and how many children you can have?
That society is much more frightening.
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ken in sc said...
Without the atomic bomb, I wouldn't have been born. My father was in the navy en-route for the invasion of Japan, when the first two were dropped. He drove those Higgins boats that went up on the beach to let out Marines. He wouldn't have survived very long.
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"The Smashing Trumpkins."
"Billy Corgan applauds Trump for ‘f—ing’ up the political class."
Tags: Donald Trump, Instapundit, Smashing Pumpkins
EDH said...
"Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage."
The world is a vampire, sent to drain
Secret destroyers, hold you up to the flames
And what do I get, for my pain?
Betrayed desires, and a piece of the game
Even though I know - I suppose I'll show
All my cool and cold - like old job
Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage
Then someone will say what is lost can never be saved
Now I'm naked, nothing but an animal
But can you fake it, for just one more show?
And what do you want?
I want to change
And what have you got, when you feel the same?
"Actor Owen Wilson made similar comments last month when he praised Trump for “not following the script.”
Wilson, after the awful movie he made and which I had the misfortune to see 30 minutes of last week, should shut the f up.
It's called "No Escape" and is best avoided.
Eric the Fruit Bat said...
I'm pretty sure that just about anybody can be a politician. You only have to get involved in politics and that's not much of a barrier to entrty.
So I'm not quite sure what all this talk about "political class" is about, as if were something immutable and pernicious.
But it's good to see that Mr. Corgan retains the worldview of somebody who made himself rich by channeling his inner child and setting it to music.
harrogate said...
"and it's best avoided."
Speaking of things best avoided, near the top of the list would be assholes who want revolution: "I have even been saying that we need a revolution, and maybe it is coming."
Even worse than the tone and content of this keyboard warrior's "thoughts" is he seems to think he can spew this type of bile and then turn around and say he didn't, or he is being misunderstood, or it's the fault of the person who noticed him saying it.
No wonder he likes Trump. They have more than a little in common, stylistically.
Riight. Barry and Valerie and Susan and Kerry and Jeh Johnson and John Koskinen and Gina McCarthy and Mark Pearce and Richard Cordray and Melvin Watt and Tony Kennedy are quaking in their boots.
Populist hot air only solidifies control by the real political class. Of course, it is not clear Trump and the Trumpkins want it any different.
For entertainment purposes, it's more fun to "tell it like it is" to third-rate radio hosts or candidates who lack energy.
Also it's sort of entertaining how "telling it like it is " or "speaking your mind" seems to mean, via Trump this time, hatefulness. If you are preaching hate and being a dick to anyone who questions your ideas then you are speaking from the heart. An odd conception of honesty, that. Wrong too.
Phil 3:14 said...
Don't be Trump chump.
"turn around and say he didn't, or he is being misunderstood,"
Creepy stalker, how about a link or a clip of what you accuse me of ?
Other commenters on that thread don't believe you. Is this some sort of catharsis you are having.
Have you lost your job ?
Did your wife (or husband) leave ?
I'm starting to worry about you.
If you could read you'd see I gave you your precious link. It's just I knew you were lying and dislike people calling for political violence and so I talked about it . If you don't think these things then why do you write them, Mr. Man?
Trump has a lot of appeal for those who would like to do political violence in the U.S. To be sure, he has appeal to other kinds of assholes too, but he's basically made the "don't tread on me" nutjobs a particular niche all his own.
Corgan is a great musician but he's being very naive here. It's sad to see. But at least he is not Ted Nugent.!
OK harrogate, I see what you are after.
"I gave you your precious link."
No prominent Republican challenged the ruling class’s continued claim of superior insight, nor its denigration of the American people as irritable children who must learn their place. The Republican Party did not disparage the ruling class, because most of its officials are or would like to be part of it.
I assume you want this is be the permanent situation. You hope to attach yourself to some ruling class individual and ride to a position you could not attain on your own.
Well, there are revolutions and revolutions. I would like to see one in the behavior of the political class. I fear what we will have instead is a violent revolution after the country is wrecked by you leftists.
And no, I do not like Trump who I consider to be a fool if not worse.
I'm not the only one concerned, but of course, you cannot understand. I can only wonder at the hatred you seem to have for those who disagree.
It's not healthy.
Did you notice that I directly quoted you saying "we need a revolution"? Gee I know it's a lot of words but if you're gonna pretend to talk about things then at least take your head out of your nethers.
I don't hate "those who disagree." I do hate political violence and those who defend it .
"There are revolutions and then there are revolutions."
Spin away, dude. I promise I won't bring this up again. Your brand of idiocy is not so deep as a well nor so wide as a church door. But it's enough. It'll do.
" I promise I won't bring this up again"
Good. This hatred is bad for your health.
harrogate opined...Speaking of things best avoided, near the top of the list would be assholes who want revolution
You meant assholes like Louis Farrakhan, didn't you?
"You meant assholes like Louis Farrakhan, didn't you?"
Not a Farrakhan fan, no. Do I share more of his concerns than, say, Trump's or Walker's? Absolutely. But I do see him as open to violence as a corrective. Which makes him an asshole.
I don't want political violence.
My husband, a life-long Democrat, and I agree: we don't care for Trump's ideas, but we do find his choice to say what's on his mind without apology refreshing in politics.
People are always celebrating that he "says what's on his mind" and it's true that this is another way of lamenting what liars most all politicians are. But most all of us have that Drunk Uncle who also "says what's on his mind" and what's on his mind , as with Trump, is fucking stupid. (Ok maybe in some cases it's not the Uncle.)
Full disclosure: there WAS one moment with Trump that I found legitimately refreshing. It was during the debate when , after being attacked again and again he just came out and said, gesturing with both arms across the stage of stooges, 'I've given all these people money.' That was fun.
buwaya puti said...
News today - third month in a row of new record numbers of firearms background checks - the highest months since 1998
Jun- July - August 1.5, 1.6, 1.7 million.
I doubt most of these people are buying guns because they are fun alternatives to golf.
I want drama and chaos-go Trump! I like that he goes after everyone.
The Cracker Emcee said...
"Not a Farrakhan fan, no. Do I share more of his concerns than, say, Trump's or Walker's? Absolutely. But I do see him as open to violence as a corrective. Which makes him an asshole."
Oof. Is there some kind of Leftist stylebook for writing faint-hearted condemnations of the lunatics that Leftists actually encourage. That harrogate doesn't understand how his quote above invalidates any criticism he makes of Trump is pretty amazing.
Gee Cracker was it not a "strong enough condemnation" for you? This really saddens me.
But see, sometimes you agree with people on some things and deplore other things about them, including what they seem to think are the solutions. Unlike Trump, I don't labor under the delusion that the strongest possible attack, every time, is good rhetoric.
Harrogate seems to be stalking me for some reason and I have others things to do so I will be around the internet but elsewhere.
My comments about "revolution" were about posts on this blog. I am very concerned about a violent revolution and have posted such concerns on my own blog but did not realize he/she would go there looking for something.
If anyone is interested, I have sent the last couple of days converting some old lectures on medical history to blog posts. They are Here.
Laslo Spatula said...
Our Political Class does not fear the People.
Gotta keep the political violence card in the deck.
I am Laslo.
Hey Laslo if you ever pull that card from the deck are you sure it's the "political class" you'll go full Laslo upon?
I am damn sure not Laslo.
RecChief said...
Billy is behind the time, the fucking up of the political class started long before he was born. One thing Laslo has correct, the political class doesn't fear the People, as it should. That fear would keep them in check.
Please elaborate on who makes up the "political class" in your mind. Surely it's not exclusive to the men and women who court elected offices?
"Gee Cracker was it not a "strong enough condemnation" for you? This really saddens me. "
It's all good. The important thing is that you share more of a racist lunatic's concerns than, say, Trump or Walker.
Cracker, you don't think blacks in America face institutional barriers? You don't think the police treat them differently? You really believe anti-black racism has ended and now it is just a grievance industry? Or can you not perhaps see where some of these concerns are truly valid?
Harrogate,
Good Lord, no. The whole edifice of Democrat Party power is built on the continued exploitation and holding down of African-Americans. Slavery, Jim Crow, destroying the Black Family, flooding Black urban areas with drugs, abortion, fostering grievance instead of achievement, patronizing tolerance for the Black lunatics and extremists who serve the Democrats agenda while dragging Blacks further down, you name it, White liberals have not missed a trick.
Harrogate's apologia for Farrakhan is almost althousian in its reflexive defense of anything black. The thinly veiled defense of Farrakhan is beyond the pale.
Bricap said...
The donor class running against the political class, it could be. Not sure why Corgan is relevant. Away from this, I never cared for his self indulgent catalog, either.
BN said...
Paraphrasing someone (who was it, i wonder, and what happened to him?): you might not be interested in revolution, but revolution is interested in you.
Sebastian, your comments are sounding more and more like one of those "cuckservative"/"conservapundit" twitter troll accounts.
Keep 'em coming. Good stuff.
I'm sorry that so many people who are in good faith really seem to believe that the complaints of BLM are all fabricated. I guess it's like the popular meme, White people get to say what is racist and what isn't. They know best.
Speaking of political violence , meanwhile, when Trump supporters violently attack "one of them Mexicans," it's a safe bet he will respond by saying "well, my supporters are very passionate." Classy , that.
It started with "hands up don't shoot" didn't it, which was a fabrication. The problem as I see it is that legitimate grievances exemplified over and over again with bad examples. Why make the guy killed in Ferguson into a hero? Why make the guy who slammed the guy's head into the pavement in Florida before getting shot into a hero replete with Presidential commentary? Even if I were completely on your side, I'd advise you to choose better examples to defend and that includes the thoroughly reprehensible Louis Farrakhan.
Lirbuls like Harrogate desperately cling to the race card. It is about all they have left.
Populists like Trump offer one main thing - competence which is the demonstrated ability to fix things. No one in the political class can claim the competence card.
Chickelit, fwiw I agree those were bad examples indeed to bring up to make this point although in the case of ferguson we did learn that there is a long and disturbing history in terms of how law enforcement treats people of color there. And certainly the way police handled those protests raised a lot of red flags for people across the political spectrum, including many conservative commenters on these boards.
Whatever the case, there are to date many many "examples" we have seen that taken together , at the very least suggest we need to be looking a lot more closely at how our police officers are behaving towards black citizens.
And certainly the way police handled those protests raised a lot of red flags for people across the political spectrum, including many conservative commenters on these boards.
As I recall, riots were the immediate aftermath which are intrinsically hard to control.
I am still bothered by the Bosnian man hammered to death. That seemed to be clear-cut case of racial hatred.
Crickets from the media regarding the fallout and aftermath.
You're right that incident did not get the attention it deserved.
@harrogate: If you go back to the first night of the Ferguson rioting, you'll find an account of a Washington DC reporter live-tweeting or live blogging from a McDonalds restaurant. Of course he whined about his "civil rights" when the restaurant tried to close down early (along with free WiFi) that night in order to safely allow their employees to get out of harm's way. That event triggered me. The journalist (I believe he was black) obviously had no sympathy for the working poor at that restaurant. I can find the link if you want.
And hopefully that reporter has slunk back into obscurity...
But riots were not the "immediate aftermath." We saw on camera people standing around yelling things and the police facing them in riot gear . Whenever black Americans try to speak for their political rights , they have extra pressure to not seem "too excited." Hell, the media fawned all over black Americans in charleston for not rioting. Which was grossly insulting .
These are American citizens , you know, whose life experiences have led them to the conclusion that the police are a threat to their very right to live. That they must be extra careful around police and even then it is not always enough. And yet a litany of people look at those arguments and wave them away dismissively . Also grossly insulting.
Fernandinande said...
Cracker, you don't think blacks in America face institutional barriers?
You didn't ask me, so I'll answer: No, it's just the opposite.
You don't think the police treat them differently?
Yes; the police are more likely to shoot white people.
And when black cops go to the wrong address and shoot an unarmed white guy in his own house and also shoot each other and kill his dog, the MSM and most websites don't mention anyone's race, much less harp on it for months. (an exception))
You really believe anti-black racism has ended and now it is just a grievance industry?
Pro-black racism exists in every level of gov't, as well as in most private businesses, especially those with deep-pockets.
Or can you not perhaps see where some of these concerns are truly valid?
What concerns?
I am sad too that you missed the real civil rights movement. I am sure you would have been there risking yourself. Positive. Maybe even front row.
Marching on the internet is easier. Supporting fools easier still. But you can still seek out and find those who believe they are in Selma. They are not. You are not.
"White people get to say what is racist and what isn't. They know best. "
No, White liberals get to say what is racist and what isn't. And every single choice they make enhances their power and leaves Blacks further in the shit. There will come a day when Blacks are no longer willing to exchange their dignity and their lives for government cheese. On that day the harrogates of America will insist that, really, it was all done with the best of intentions.
"And yet a litany of people look at those arguments and wave them away dismissively"
Because they think "those arguments" are bad. See Fernandinande's post above for examples of why.
An argument's earnestness is in no way correlated with its accuracy.
"I knew you were lying and dislike people calling for political violence and so I talked about it"
On reading the provided link, it seems as though Harrogate is intent on characterizing Michael K's words as calling for violent revolution, even though that is by no means clear, or even likely, based on reading what Michael K actually wrote.
Michael K really seems to make you angry, Harrogate. Why is that?
Dismissiveness is bad. Except when it's done to the "don't tread on me" nutjobs.
Why make the guy who slammed the guy's head into the pavement in Florida before getting shot into a hero replete with Presidential commentary?
So says a guy making a hero out of a clearly violent sociopath who implies that he'll shoot anyone that "hits" him after conveniently winning a trial against the last person he did that to. Thanks to a key source for any evidence that he didn't personally approve of being conveniently shot dead and buried.
Absolutely not, it's also the people who buy those men and women. And don't think I am thinking exclusively of Tom Steyer. It's a cesspool on both sides in the binary system we have. Especially right now.
Show me a link to where I made a hero out of the guy whose head was slammed into the concrete. You're projecting, R&B. I have in past lionized many people here and elsewhere, but they tend to be important or forgotten scientists and artists or the like.
By persistently saying "head slammed into concrete" as a substitute for his name you're making a not-so-sly attempt to promote him as a martyr. I'm not sure that's the exact same thing as a "hero" (so congratulate yourself on slipping away on another technicality if you must) but it's damn close.
I use the graphic language of "slamming his head against the concrete" because a cousin of mine died that way in a bar fight in Wisconsin. I recalled that scene (I did not witness it) when the Florida story first broke. I may have been more acutely aware of its lethality as a weapon because of it.
Sorry to hear that.
Interesting,not crazy said...
harro...
fwiw I agree those were bad examples indeed to bring up to make this point although in the case of ferguson we did learn that there is a long and disturbing history in terms of how law enforcement treats people of color there.
Cannot imagine why cops treat blacks different. Let's go down to the hood after dark and observe the racist cops in action.
Any cops been ambushed by AA's lately?
What are the chances of an AA carrying a gun?
furious_a said...
...m to believe that the complaints of BLM are all fabricated.
If the Left can blame Sarah Palin for Gabrielle Giffords getting shot, then the Right can blame #BLM for Deputy Goforth's execution slaying.
Goose. Gander. Sauced.
The reason the left and Obama chose violent thugs like martin and Ferguson guy as examples was because they want white people to think of black people as a block group of people like martin, and they want black people to think of all cops as racist killers. The media and Obama feed off of division and hatred. That is why they are promoting it.
If Black people took a step back and looked at who is ruining their lives they wouldn't vote for progressives anymore.
I generally don't agree with Harrogate's views but I'm impressed that he stayed in the conversation, admitted where he was wrong and still stuck to his convictions. Yes a little insult early but better later.
That was in definite distinction from R&B, ad hominem is his stock in trade.
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Council president visits Whyalla | Whyalla News
Louis Mayfield | Whyalla News
FOR the first time a leader of the South Australian Legislative Council has visited Whyalla, with current President Andrew McLachlan meeting Whyalla Mayor Clare McLaughlin and Council CEO Chris Cowley.
Mr McLachlan attended a breakfast at the Whyalla Foreshore Motor-Inn on Wednesday and met with several service providers as part of his Listening Tour of the regions.
Asked what the feeling was amongst the locals he met with, Mr McLachlan said there was a ‘renewed enthusiasm’ in the town after the life of the Whyalla Steelworks had been secured.
“There’s lots of development opportunities that flow from that. There’s a fantastic confidence in Whyalla and strong community connections to support the disadvantaged,” he said.
“I’ve met a series of very impressive people who are a great credit to Whyalla.”
Ahead of the federal election in May Mr McLachlan said he expected locals wouldn’t be disappointed by what the Liberal Party offer come election time.
“The state government have enjoyed a healthy and vibrant relationship with the federal government which has allowed us to deliver programs and services over the last year for the benefit of South Australia,”he said.
Mr McLachlan said it was great to meet with new Mayor Clare McLaughlin and said he planned to meet with the three other new Mayors in Port Pirie, Port Augusta and Cowell.
LEADER: Legislative Council President Andrew McLachlan said it was great to see a renewed sense of enthusiasm in Whyalla.
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JFK Moonshot 4+
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Using the latest in augmented reality technology, we immerse users into 1969 with a full-scale recreation of the Saturn V rocket and a 5-day real-time tracking simulation of the mission and moon landing. Users can take a deeper dive into President Kennedy’s vision with interactive AR games, archival NASA footage and educational multimedia experiences.
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Thank You! For creating a terrific app!
If only JFK could be holding a cell phone with augmented reality capabilities to watch the Saturn five rocket takeoff?!?! Right?!? It’s it’s almost priceless something that can’t be replaced with or taken away from. Something money cannot buy, bc The value is in the expression and the look of a kid in a candy store 50 years later. You know he probably wouldn’t have been assassinated in today’s world, but he would’ve been killed for his cell phone...that’s more likely. And imagine if he found out that assassinations and killings were being taken place over sneakers. He might just not even run for president for a second term or even a first lol. Awesome amazing and informative APP, terrific work! Thanks! #RIPJFK
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American Moonshot—Take my kids to the stars—priceless
Technology that truly creates a a transformative experience with something never done before—NASA 1961 and JFK choosing to go to the moon not because it would be easy but because it would be hard and summon the best of our energies and efforts—this is what I want my kids to know through education and immersive experiences. The original astronauts went to the Moon and discovered a new perspective on Earth. I think we need an app like this to help lift us again—all the better by including the history and stories of JFK And NASA getting us there...which led to the GPS and camera phones in everyone’s hands today with this app. My girls loved it. Can’t wait for the full launch July 16th.
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Cool but not nearly as fake as the original
I was hoping I could actually fake a moon landing in my house like Lyndon B Johnson’s administration did. But it still was a good time.
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Berks County Eats
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Kwik Shoppe Drive-In
Zach Brown / December 4, 2018
In October 2018, Arby’s tested a very unique sandwich at one of its Berks County locations. The Arby’s in Spring Township sold – and sold out of – the one-time-only duck sandwich.
It was a very different concept, especially for a national fast food chain. But it was met with positive reviews, and the line that morning when Arby’s opened up said there was a demand for it.
That’s where the Kwik Shoppe in Shoemakersville comes in. They saw opportunity and capitalized on it, introducing duck on their menu in November.
While duck is normally found on finer dining menus – five-spice duck breast at Savory Grille and ravioli with duck ragu at Salute come to mind – it’s not the first time I’ve had it in a more casual setting.
At the Liberty Taproom, I enjoyed a duck confit burger topped with duck sausage. And my first real taste of duck came at the relaxed Canal Street Pub.
But fast food is a different story. Walking into the Kwik Shoppe – a quintessential drive-in with hexagonal tile floor, booth seating and a claw machine behind the door – duck just doesn’t seem to fit.
The Kwik Shoppe has three different duck items on their menu: the pulled duck sandwich, duck fries and a duck sausage sandwich. All of them sounded good, but a photo of the pulled duck sandwich on the restaurant’s Facebook page had me sold before I got there.
The sandwich was topped with an onion ring and pineapple papaya sauce (barbecue sauce was also an option).
Before diving into the sandwich, I tasted the meat on its own. It was similar to a pulled pork but fattier with a deeper flavor. I was impressed.
On the whole, the sandwich was very good. There wasn’t a lot of sauce, but there didn’t need to be. It added some sweet and tangy notes that came through after the meat. The onion ring was a reminder that I was eating fast food. It wasn’t necessary, but I certainly didn’t mind it either.
I would go back for another.
Julie went with the much less exciting cheeseburger. It wasn’t bad, but it’s not going to win any best burger contests. It was also around $2 so we’re not going to complain.
Both of us did enjoy our fries. They weren’t anything special, just a really good fast food-style French fry. They were cut small so you could pop several of them at a time. I think their small size allowed them to retain more flavor from the fryer. After adding a little salt and pepper, they were just what we hoped they would be.
Jakob, our now one-year-old son, is now at the point that he can have his own food when we go out. So we got him an order for mac and cheese bites. He enjoyed them, eating two out of the five in the order (along with some fries and some duck). Again, nothing special, just a typical fried fast food side.
None of us really needed anything else to eat after our dinners, but the ice cream was right there, and we just couldn’t pass up the chance to indulge.
I am a sucker for flurries so my go-to on this night was a brownie dough flurry. The flurry was actually mixed to the point that much of the brownie had broken off into small bits, making it look more like cookies and cream than brownie dough. But there were still some larger chunks that were definitely brownie. It was delicious, but a small was more than enough for me, especially after indulging at dinner.
Julie’s new favorite dessert is the dusty road sundae. Kwik Shoppe loaded theirs up with chocolate syrup, malt powder, whipped cream, crushed peanuts and the obligatory cherry on top. The soft-serve vanilla was very good and they didn’t skimp on the toppings. Julie couldn’t finish it, but made sure to eat “all the good stuff.”
We spent about $32 on our visit – $22 on dinner and $10 on dessert. The duck items are a little more expensive than the rest of the menu so we easily could have spent less and we easily could have spent more. But overall, it felt like a good value.
The service isn’t great (a little slow but not bad), but that’s to be expected when a group of four high school students are handling all of the orders behind the counter.
I went in to the meal with an open mind when it came to fast food duck. After eating the pulled duck sandwich, I think you can count me among the believers.
And I hope there are more believers out there because this was a sandwich I would like to have again.
BCE Rating
Food: Fair to Very Good
Service: Fair
Ambiance: Good
Value: Reasonable
555 Shoemaker Ave
Shoemakersville, PA 19555
December 4, 2018 in Dessert, Dinner, Reviews. Tags: burgers, duck, fries, ice cream, mac and cheese, sandwiches, sundae
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Jennifer Mazaika says:
We too, being raised in the area, visit the Kwik Shoppe frequently. Today, we jumped over the edge and tried the pulled duck (hubby) and I had the loaded duck fries. OMW..it was THE BEST ! The fries are done in duck fat..which changes them completely! Add the pulled duck, parm cheese and HOLY DUCK!! It was over the top! I would rate this a 5 star without batting an eye!
Zach Brown says:
Couldn’t have said it better myself!
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Arsenal striker Alexandre Lacazette has done little to ease Gooners fears that he could leave the club.
Reports in the Express earlier this month have claimed that the Spanish side are interested in a deal to bring the France international to Camp Nou as they look to add to their squad this summer.
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Internal investigation: underage workers back at some Foxconn factories
Foxconn takes blame for the hires, says it will terminate those involved.
Jacqui Cheng - Oct 16, 2012 3:53 pm UTC
Underage workers have reappeared in some of Foxconn's factories, according to a new internal investigation conducted by Foxconn's parent company Hon Hai. The company said on Tuesday that it found a number of interns younger than the legal floor of 16, but did not reveal the exact number.
"We recognize that full responsibility for these violations rests with our company and we have apologized to each of the students for our role in this action," Foxconn said in a statement, as seen by Reuters. "Any Foxconn employee found, through our investigation, to be responsible for these violations will have their employment immediately terminated."
Foxconn is largely known for manufacturing Apple's gadgets—the word "Foxconn" is nearly synonymous with iPhone and iPad manufacture in some circles—but also builds products for a number of other technology companies such as Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, HP, Intel, Acer, and others. Still, Apple has largely been the company left combating Foxconn's negative image. Apple publishes an annual report on its suppliers—which includes data on underage labor—and the Fair Labor Association recently published its own report saying that Apple and Foxconn were indeed improving factory conditions ahead of schedule.
Apple's most recent report says incidents of underage labor being used have decreased significantly between 2010 and 2011. When Apple finds underage workers, it requires the offending suppliers to send them back to the workers' choice of school and finance their education through Apple's Child Labor Remediation program. And when the underage workers go back to school, the suppliers must also pay them the same income that they were earning while they were working at the facility.
According to China Labor Watch, schools in China are largely responsible for placing under-16 workers in factories, but, as noted by Reuters, the group did fault Foxconn for not confirming the ages of its interns before putting them to work.
strohminator Ars Scholae Palatinae
According to the report, the companies also worked to extend unemployment insurance coverage to migrant workers in Shenzen, and made vast improvements to Foxconn's internship program.
This labor group is sounding like a nice cover for Foxconn.
I believe Apple's Child Labor Remediation program is a good example for companies to follow. Using children as laborers to reduce overhead costs is criminal. On a lighter note though, I kinda wish I could sign up my kids to assemble electronics in China over fall break so that they might get caught and get a free education/salary out of the deal. A good school is expensive nowdays. I suppose if they don't get caught though it would still be good learning experience for them.
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When Apple finds underage workers, it requires the offending suppliers to send them back to the workers' choice of school and finance their education through Apple's Child Labor Remediation program. And when the underage workers go back to school, the suppliers must also pay them the same income that they were earning while they were working at the facility.
Although I am generally critical of Apple's behavior and willing to ascribe less-than-noble motives to its actions, I strongly approve of this right here. Sure, they might just being doing it for the PR benefits (and to offset the PR damage caused by the underage worker issue to begin with), but it's still an excellent thing to do, regardless of why they're doing it.
Jakelshark Ars Scholae Palatinae
It's nice that Apple makes Foxconn give the underage workers wage and pay for their schooling, but that's what...probably a couple hundred dollars? Apple should fine the companies more. The Chinese government doesn't really care, so Apple has to do more to punish their suppliers for such violations. (The problem with that though is it may increase the number of underage people applying, hopping they get part of the the pay out.)
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It's just the price you pay for having a smaller and thinner phone. You need tiny children fingers to put it all together.
omnimodis78 Wise, Aged Ars Veteran
Those of you who understand the dynamics of the Chinese labour force, and how things really play out on the practical level, understand that all these programs and strategies and initiatives put in place to protect and support the bottom-of-the-barrel workers is just smoke and mirrors in what ultimately gets lost through the flow of corruption and fundamental and systematic disrespect that corporations (and the government) have for their workers. Yes, Apple's Child Labor Remediation program sounds great, but who's auditing it? What are the mechanics in place that control and measure the outcome? How many times have there been programs initiated to guard against this exact situation, and here we are...again. I know that my HR department in my Canadian company has never, ever "accidentally" hired an underage individual. I know that we don't need something like the Canada Labor Watch to make sure that factories here don't hire 14 year olds... There's a reason for this. And if Apple Inc. truly cares about this issue, then they ought to stop outsourcing their manufacturing to companies that operate in countries where child labour is not frowned upon (in practice, of course). Period.
Tom Brokaw Ars Tribunus Militum
cdclndc wrote:
You got it backwards: you should sign up your kids for a summer's worth of work with the understanding that they won't get caught. Every Western child (teenager) should have a terrible, shitty job experience so they appreciate the education opportunities they do have instead of using college as an excuse to get wasted and sleep in.
chipmunkofdoom2 Ars Scholae Palatinae
Jakelshark wrote:
It's nice that Apple makes Foxconn give the underage workers wage and pay for their schooling, but that's what...probably a couple hundred dollars?
You're absolutely right. Poor rural subsistence farmers in China may earn less than a thousand dollars a year. A few hundred dollars a year would probably buy tuition, room and board for a student.
Corporations often get painted in a bad light for paying Chinese workers low wages, but when you cut through the emotions and the politics, the reason wages are so low for Chinese workers is because that's what their labor is worth. China's population is staggering, and wealthy and middle class Chinese are still a small minority. For those people who earn $800 a year by working 6 days a week farming land they don't own, $20 a week in a boring, relatively safe assembly line job is a veeery desirable thing. Just look at the reaction from the Chinese labor force when a new electronics factory opens.. there are mobs of people trying to obtain these jobs. It's unthinkable to many Americans that the Chinese would think so highly of so little, but China is not America. Even working in sweat-shop like conditions is a great alternative for scraping just enough money to survive out of the land.
You can paint Apple as evil as you want (I'm not an Apple guy myself), but as far as playing the "game" goes (the game being making products in China and charging 10x what they pay the supplier), they are a remarkably fair player. Maybe it is just because of how high-profile Apple is, or maybe it is something more... regardless, no other manufacturers (that I'm aware of) have any such program as the one mentioned above. The labor situation in China is not good, but it's unfair to expect Apple to be the one to fix everything. As long as there are close to a billion desperately poor Chinese barely surviving, the cost of labor in China will be low. It's as in any supply/demand relationship: when demand is high, price (wages in this case) will be low.
A broad, systemic change of China's culture and socioeconomic structure will be required before wages and worker satisfaction go up, and occurrences like these go down.
chipmunkofdoom2 wrote:
Well said. I hardly think this issue is as simple as everyone paints it. Standards like this may make westerners feel better about their consumption but that has nothing to do with what's good for the workers who actually have a stake. Should kids be in school instead of working - absolutely. But what if school isn't in the picture anyway and putting food on the table is at issue? Why is working such a bad option then? When China comes up with it's own standards and enforces them that's fine, but when one country pushes it's standards on another that's a different thing entirely.
zelannii Ars Praefectus
Well, it's several hundred a month, and to have to pay that out potentially for YEARS, plus fund their education on top? and maybe they got to use that kid instead of some other laborer saving maybe $50-100 a month tops vs paying the kid? There's NO WAY that doing this is profitable for the company. The one and only reason they're hiring such labor is (and this has happened and been admitted to before), they fell behind contractual obligations and were potentially subject to large contract penalties for not meeting the goals they agreed to hit.
Apple DOES do more, read their supplier report. They don;t just fine them, they also mandate well in excess of standard wages, mandate stronger-than-local-law overtime requirements, demand terminations of even executives when laws are broken more than once, and in many historical cases, have refused to take shipment of compnents manufactured by illegal labor or in dangerous conditions leaving the company both taking the cost hit as well as potentially being subject to contract shortfalls in addition. Several times Apple has also either suspended or terminaed supplier contracts ENTIRELY, leaving companies holding the bag for milions of dolars in inventory.
Apple has a multi-stage action plan based on the severity of the incidents, and frequency of the incidents. But lets face it, the vast majority of these labor issue aare not bad hiring practces, but people who want jobs are who are willing to lie to get them.
Daedalcipher Seniorius Lurkius
Foxconn deserves to be raked over the coals for many things, but let's remember that this article presents a particularly Western view of the situation. Is making a kid who's 14 spend ten hours a day putting together iPhone's something we should aim for as an endgame? Absolutely not. But let's be careful about demonizing a company operating in a completely different company and socio-economic context according to our values. The reality is that the kids Foxconn is going to "terminate" as the result of this probe couldn't give a rat's ass about anything other than the fact that now he or she is bringing home no supplemental income, and life is just going to be harder. Nick Kristoff has any number of great and insightful things to say about this.
Let's be smart about how we effect change, that's all.
MrMcLargeHuge Ars Scholae Palatinae
omnimodis78 wrote:
Apple audits it. Every year. And they've invited outside auditors in as well.
Edit: I should add that I, like nearly everyone else, believe the manufacturing should be done here as well, but that's not going to happen as long as we have tax policies that make it cheaper to produce overseas.
lordmedikit Ars Centurion
Black_Obsidian wrote:
Seriously, just wanted to emphasis that this little nugget has significantly improved my impression of Apple as a corporate citizen so well done them.
Also skimming the iTouch review it seems like a very decent device at a not too extortionate price so there are two positive things about Apple today and I definitely didn't expect that when clicking on this article's link!
Daedalcipher wrote:
Oh, but that's what people (typically, in my experience, left-of-center people) do: they say that all cultures are equal, that no one culture is better than any other, while simultaneously vociferating that others should be doing things the same way we do.
MrMcLargeHuge wrote:
I wish manufacturing happened more in the West too but unless companies were willing to sell their products at cost then they would never reach mass market prices and they would still be undercut by their Chinese rivals (OK maybe not if they hadn't built up their manufacturing skill with our help but you can't reverse time).
Obviously, if workers wages had increased at a decent level this might not have mattered so much but then these same companies would have greater costs so it would still be hard for them to sell at much above cost. Unfortunately not every company is as generous as Amazon to make virtually no profit on the back of such high revenues and whilst as a consumer that makes me like Amazon more, I'm sure investors wouldn't be so pleased and fundamentally a company has an overriding duty to its investors (unfortunately).
zelannii wrote:
I'm skeptical that they pay the kids any longer than it takes for them to be an adult (16) or finish the schooling that's paid for (and assuming no corruption of school officials paid off to say the kid has gone as far as they can go).
The kids are from poor farming areas and live in China, I doubt that the education they could potentially receive is much better than learning basic arithmetic, reading, writing, some history (yay propaganda) and maybe a little science. They're not getting sent to an American university for tends of thousands of dollars or even one of the premier Chinese universities (I doubt the government wants them there and I doubt they are prepared for such academic rigors -- if they could afford living in the cities). They are going to stay in their general area and attend what passes for education in that area. This isn't very expensive.
The point of the punishment is to make Foxconn feel it in their pockets and see it on their bottom line. Apple should be fining magnitudes greater if they want Foxconn to take the issue as serious as it deserves to be.
As an aside, there is also the issue of what do they do after their education? They will likely end up working at the factory again, if they will even hire the person again due to their previous troubles. They can find someone else to take a relatively good job (by Chinese standards in the poor areas).
And I'm aware of the other things, we are discussing one particular issue and Apple's solution to the problem.
lordmedikit wrote:
At the risk of getting off-topic, I've always found the current situation strange. Nearly everyone, including both major political parties, agree that we have to again start making stuff over here, yet nothing ever gets done about it. As much as I didn't like Rick Santorum, I loved his plan of a 0% tax for manufacturers that produce 100% of their goods domestically.
Tom Brokaw wrote:
I actually plan to do that with my kids. I expect their first job to be a suck job either in fastfood or retail inventory while they're 14 or 15, a few hours a week and not enough to detract from education, at which point I will otherwise terminate their allowance forcing them to appreciate that income and not see it as "bonus" money. By junior year, they should be juggling a 16-20 hour a week job and their education. They'll have to make choices between fun things and working to pay for what they want. I expect them to be on a "budget" and actually be planning their income, expenses, etc while juggling education. If they're slacking or falling behind, maybe that nice job in an airconditioned building will be replaced by something requiring manual labor, drive the lesson home.
I think at some point in their lives, EVERYONE should be forced to work in the service industry for at least siome period of time as well; it teaches humility in ways not otherwise easily learned. I think some time spent in a retail setting is also eye opening. In college, an internship or exernship in traditional business, medical, etc should bring them to realize there is clearly a better alternative if they're willing to reach for it. By the time they're out of college, i expect my kids to have a solid work ethic, personal motivation, and a long lasting desire to work smarter so they don't have to work harder. The whole time, 5% goes to an emergency fund and 10% goes to retirement savings.
I strongly believe we've gotten too soft as a nation. Suffering, loss, hardship, and strict rules build character and drive. If you're never exposed to it, you might believe you'll get a handout your whole life. People should not be protected from failure, they need to EXPERIENCE failure. Witout true concequence society falls apart.
I really disagree with this general theory.
Americans don't want to do manufacturing jobs like these anymore. You can raise the tax to import to the point that they become viable to build and employee American manufacturers, and that raises the prices for everyone for just about everything (glossing over the giant middle finger you're giving to global politics). Or you can cut taxes and restrictions to get a lower living standard for Americans. And then you get to hope that the jobs come here and not to a country with even looser restrictions.
Certain products make economical sense to perform overseas and you cannot escape that fact. You either lower our own standards or tell the rest of the world you don't feel like playing anymore.
Its a world economy. Most of this stuff is made in one place in the world for very specific reasons: proximity to resources and proximity to the customer base. Also, quality controls are simply better when you have one facility instead of 10, and, some of these components really only can be made in one place (chips/screens). When the vast majority of the components you use are made somewhere, and 80% of your customers are connected by land to that place, you build your factory there too.
Face it, shipping all those materials and components to the USA to then send them back overseas for sale is simply not viable. Anythign currentluy made in China would sooner be made in ANY other nation on that continent before it will be made in the USA. Even if our labor cost less, and our laws made the facility cost less, and we subsidized the power costs as their giovernment does, it would STILL cost more and take more time to get things made here.
People think the USA is the certer of the world. Nope. We're very far from the rest of it, mexico is limited as a world economy and Canada is barely a blip. We have world mindshare, and, due in large part to our isolation, we have been able to build the world's best military and maintain independence, but that's mostly due to our ability to have stayed OUT of most of the world's conflicts outside of WWI and II, the only time we were really threatened on any level militarily since our independence. Because of those savings, and our might, and our freedoms, we contribute a ton to the world economy, but that does not in ANY way mean we're an ideal place to have things made. hell, even if you could do it, and broke FoxConn up into 5 or 6 smaller pieces, and spread it across the USA, you know honestly we would still have issues just finding the 300,000 workers needed. There are few places in the USA where even a 50 or 60K strong workforce can be located. A city would have to have several million residents to find that many freely available skilled laborers without upturning the local economy and creating other job shortages. The USAs population density does not lend us to large scale manufacture, we're best at having lots and lots of small facilties. This stuff can;t be made that way, the logistics simply do not work out.
Firstly, an audit that is partial is not an audit at all. Not suggesting that it's a waste of time, but it's not an audit. Apple auditing Apple isn't effective, especially when management mentality is that of "we can do no wrong". The point of an audit is that it's arm's length and that there's not even inasmuch as the impression (let alone the fact) of conflict of interest. Secondly, was it through audits that the consumers learned about all the problems at Foxconn, or was it through whistlebolwers and media attention? I'm sure it was always through the latter, so that tells you something about those audits. These auditors Apple keeps sending in after problems surface is also a little pointless because if there's one thing China does perfectly is to put on a show when a factory is being audited. I would know. The one thing I want to make absolutely clear though is that this is by no means isolated. Any North American and European and even Asian companies outsourcing to mainland China are at risk of human resource policies being disregarded by the contractor simply because they don't have to care. Apple's HR policies do not apply or have to mirror, in this case, Foxconn's. The only real solution here is for Apple to seek a manufacturer who is aligned with Apple's core values...and good luck finding such a factory in mainland China.
You do know that Apple isn't Foxconn's only client, right? Apple doesn't audit all Foxconn facilities, only the ones they use.
sryan2k1 Ars Legatus Legionis et Subscriptor
says it will terminate those involved.
IMHO I'd rather them keep their jobs then murder them. Crazy China.
technomom Wise, Aged Ars Veteran
Honestly, when I was 14, I worked in a bakery, complete with huge, dangerous ovens, potentially finger mangling bread slicing machine and above a storage room that looked something like the torture chamber out of "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo". I learned a lot, especially how *not* to get hurt, and how to count back change in my head.
This job came AFTER the year I spent dodging vicious dogs and snarling homeowners on my brother's paper route.
These days, my son practically had to stand outside the Shop-Rite personnel office for a week to even be considered for a job. Most employers in the US want nothing to do with anyone under 17 or 18. Sad for American teens.
archie4oz Ars Praefectus
The amusing thing about this story is that the city/factory where this occured doesn't even manufacture or assemble any Apple products, yet the conversation still sways towards Apple...
While that's true, China has only a short history of not allowing children to work in order to subsidize their family's income. It was critical for centuries, if not millennia, that they do so. This sort of social norm takes time to change. Not only do the children often feel marginalized by not being allowed to work but many adults see nothing whatsoever wrong with it and feel the problem is "nosy foreigners telling them what to do". I base this on a friend who is a Chinese immigrant with whom I have spoken at length regarding the issues. She was a worker as a child herself and asked me once why we don't allow kids to work wherever they like here. It's quite interesting to see the cultural differences.
I also wonder how much of an incentive having the school paid for on top of a wage is. I mean, that makes it almost seem like it's beneficial to "get a job" then get caught so you can get paid for not working.
archie4oz wrote:
That's like finding out the Google office in my city is murdering puppies and then saying "Well none of the search servers are at that location so it isn't a big deal"
Like it or not Apple is Foxconn's most known about customer, and doing business with a shitty company is a bad idea all around.
serversurfer Ars Legatus Legionis
Err, kudos to Apple for making the effort, but doesn't that seem like a huge incentive for kids to try to sneak in? At worst, they get a cushy factory job, and if they're lucky, they instead get a free ride to any school they want, and they keep collecting their factory wages? Talk about win-win.
While I may quibble on the number of hours you want your kids to work as a junior in high school (I'd cut that in half, personally) the part of your post I bolded is spot on. For too long we have refused to educate our children regarding the realities of adult life, allowing them to become "grown up children" and then wondering why they can't manage to survive. Hell, my own mother refused to even discuss finances with us because "that's her business, not ours". As a result, I had to learn how to manage finances on my own and, to be honest, I fucked it up pretty bad for several years before getting the hang of it. I am by no means a unique snowflake in this, either, from what I can tell.
We need to stop coddling children and instead start training them at a very young age how to handle the basics of living an adult life. How else will we ever get out of the rut of living beyond our means into which we, as a society, have gotten ourselves?
sryan2k1 wrote:
Actually, it's more like finding out the electric cooperative that powers Google's servers had some sort of toxic spill three states away, and then criticizing Google for supporting such deplorable business practices.
I'm assuming you have a long list of viable alternatives?
eljefeloco Ars Centurion
I used to work for one of the top DRAM manufacturing and testing companies in the US; one of the primary sources of employees during down-times was the staffing agency industry. There were many, many times that 16 and 17 year old kids were sent out to work overnight shifts in a warehouse setting (heavy machinery and tools present) by these staffing agencies because they wouldn't screen applicants. We would usually take a look at the new temps and flat out ask if they were of legal age yet (you can't ask specific questions for fear of child protection or other age discrimination laws) because a fifth of the time they weren't.
This kind of crap doesn't just happen in second and third world countries.
Nilt wrote:
We need to stop coddling children and instead start training them at a very young age how to handle the basics of living an adult life.
Hear hear. Somewhere along the way, we seem to have lost sight of the fact that our main job as parents is training our kids to be viable gr'ups.
Edit: Do other countries have this "coddling instinct"? Maybe that's why we continue to fall further behind in general achievement.
No, Apple can choose to not use Foxconn, you can't choose to not use your power company.
Yeah you can.
Or you can buy power from someone else, it's just impractical. Just like it's impractical for Apple to go to someone else.
Or you can buy power from someone else, it's just impractical
But most of the distribution network is the same, so no you really can't change that.
Yeah you could. You could invest in a new distribution network. You could even move your house closer. It's impractical though. And Apple changing away from Foxconn is impractical too. They are so heavily invested in that company (like machinery) and its locations, it's an unreasonable request...especially when you begin to calculate the economics of such a move and realize Foxconn's relative place in the world of manufacturing.
serversurfer wrote:
And it would be HR department's job to fact check exactly who they are hiring.
Apple are getting close, but if you don't like power as an example, how about the servers themselves? Are you going to criticize Google for procuring equipment from manufacturers which use Foxconn, such as Microsoft, HP, and Intel?
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The secret to online safety: Lies, random characters, and a password manager
Or, how to go from "123456" to "XBapfSDS3EJz4r42vDUt."
Jon Brodkin - Jun 4, 2013 1:00 am UTC
It's time to ask yourself an uncomfortable question: how many of your passwords are so absurdly weak that they might as well provide no security at all? Those of you using "123456," "abc123," or even just "password" might already know it's time to make some changes. And using pets' names, birth dates, your favorite sports teams, or adding a number or capital letter to a weak password isn't going to be enough.
Don’t worry, we're here to help. We’re going to focus on how to use a password manager, software that can help you go from passwords like "111111" to "6WKBTSkQq8Zn4PtAjmz7" without making you want to pull out all your hair. For good measure, we'll talk about how creating fictitious answers to password reset questions (e.g. mother's maiden name) can make you even more resistant to hacking.
Why you can’t just wing it anymore
A password manager helps you create long, complicated passwords for websites and integrates into your browser, automatically filling in your usernames and passwords. Instead of typing a different password into each site you visit, you only have to remember one master password.
Why bother? The algorithms and tools hackers use to crack passwords are becoming ever more sophisticated and powerful, as we explained last year in "Why passwords have never been weaker—and crackers have never been stronger." Even people with no experience cracking passwords can do so with the tools available today. And as Wired's Mat Honan discovered from personal experience, the interconnectedness of online accounts coupled with insecure password reset mechanisms creates gigantic risk. Once a hacker gets into one of your accounts, all of them may be vulnerable.
Too often people reuse a password across even their most important accounts, or use a base word and add a number or symbol for different sites. A weak password can be exposed by so-called "brute-force cracking," in which computers try all possible passwords until the right one is found. “Dictionary attacks” are more common, however. These use lists of millions or even billions of previously cracked passwords. Even worse, there have been numerous examples of vendors practically gift wrapping password information, storing users' passwords in plain text or suffering security breaches that expose cryptographically hashed password data for millions of people.
Even if your password is exposed only in an obscured, "hashed" form, it's vulnerable to hackers converting it to plain text. This is especially true for weak passwords, although we've seen that even relatively strong passwords can be cracked. If a password you use across many sites is exposed in this way, you could see hackers take access of your e-mail, financial accounts, and social networking profiles.
"Passwords are a terrible system. I mean, passwords are awful," said Jeffrey Goldberg, Chief Defender Against the Dark Arts (yes, that's his real title) at AgileBits. His company makes a password management software called 1Password.
So why does Goldberg spend his career helping users manage passwords? As bad as passwords are, no one has come up with anything good enough to replace them across the whole Internet. Goldberg hoped for some 15 years that client certificates (digital signatures to identify users and Web services) would do the trick, but the technological and implementation barriers proved too great.
Two-factor authentication systems combining passwords with a second verification method (like one-time security codes sent to your cell phone) are improving matters, but while they've been adopted by the likes of Apple, Google, and Microsoft, you won't find them on every site you care about. PayPal's top security chief is working on a plan to "obliterate passwords from the face of the planet," but that won't realistically happen any time soon.
"People have been trying to replace passwords for a long time, and they all run into the same handful of fundamental problems," such as challenges in setting up a network of trusted third parties (similar to certificate authorities) to sign user credentials, Goldberg said. Thus, the need for passwords and for users to practice good password security "isn't going to disappear over the next few years." Password managers make a terrible system less terrible in Goldberg’s view.
We recently gave three hackers a list of 16,000 hashed passcodes, and they cracked nearly 90 percent of them. To stay in the safe zone, we recommended that passwords contain a "minimum of 11 characters, contain upper- and lower-case letters, numbers, and letters, and aren't part of a pattern." Password managers will help you create truly random passwords that go well beyond 11 characters.
1Password is one of numerous password management systems. Others include LastPass and KeePass. Now, password managers aren't perfect—there is no such thing as perfect online security in 2013—and they aren't necessarily right for everyone. But if used properly, they would undoubtedly improve security for a large population of people using weak passwords. There may be dozens of websites that you have to log into; without a password manager or some other system, creating strong passwords for each one and remembering them would be a nightmare.
"The way our brain works, most of us, you won't be able to remember completely unique passwords for each and every site," Per Thorsheim, a security expert who organizes the annual PasswordsCon conference, told Ars. "We need some logic, we need something to make our brains able to remember those passwords."
Thorsheim is a user of LastPass. He notes that password managers often rely on cloud-based systems to sync logins across devices, introducing a small risk that criminals could target a single point of weakness by hacking into your password service. But the benefits of a system that creates ultra-strong, unique passwords for each site you visit outweigh this risk. And this risk is small. Your data is encrypted on your own computer before being sent to cloud servers and your master password is never stored by any cloud service. "I trust their encryption scheme," Thorsheim said of LastPass. "I also trust in what I see from AgileBits and others."
Making a password manager part of your routine
I bought 1Password for myself several years ago to help me strengthen my security, particularly for banking and other financial accounts. So let’s look at how to use a password manager with 1Password as an example. Note that this is not an endorsement of 1Password over other systems, as we'll talk about how different password managers offer different approaches.
1Password comes in two parts, a desktop application and a browser plugin that automatically fills your passwords into Web forms such as your e-mail, Facebook, or bank site. 1Password stores all of your passwords in an encrypted file, which can only be accessed with a master password. The first step is choosing a master password that's ultra-strong and that you're capable of remembering. Tips on how to choose a master password are coming (on page 3) but for now, let's look at how 1Password and other password managers integrate into your workflow.
Each time you use 1Password, you'll type in your master password to get started:
Within the application, you'll see the list of sites for which you have saved username and password information. You'll also notice categories like "secure notes" and "wallet," the latter of which is a good place to store credit card information.
If you double-click a site name in that list (underneath where it says "144 items by Title") the website will open in your default browser, and your username and password data will be automatically entered.
Pressing the "Edit" button or double clicking on the right hand side of the 1Password application will bring you into an individual site's entry. Here you can edit username and password data or create a stronger password.
Next to the password field will be a button labeled "Generate." Clicking this will bring you into 1Password's random password generator:
The generator lets you adjust the rules for creating passwords. You can specify lengths from 1 to 50 characters and specify how many digits or symbols should go into the password. It's a good idea to make your passwords as long as possible, although some sites may limit you to 16 characters or some other amount.
You can even choose "pronounceable" passwords, which will give you something like "eck-vor-ev-ig-vin-jo."
The password creator offers no option for "random numbers of digits and symbols," so if you want each password to have different configurations you'd have to change the amount of digits and symbols each time. Goldberg explained that this small concession was made so that 1Password's browser plugin can more easily create passwords to fit the requirements of various sites (e.g. "password must contain at least two symbols and one number").
"The short answer is yes, we lose something here in strength, but when you do the math on realistic examples it turns out to be a small loss," Goldberg said. "The gain is that it is more likely for a generated password to meet the site's requirements on the first shot. Of course, as the kinds of requirements we see in sites changes over time, we might find that we can modify the Strong Password Generator to ditch the 'exactly N digits' business altogether."
(Goldberg discussed some of the more technical decisions AgileBits has made with 1Password in an Ars forum thread last year.)
The above screenshots are from a Mac computer. The Windows version of 1Password looks a bit different, but it operates in a similar manner:
Now, the desktop application isn't the most convenient place to generate and retrieve passwords. That's why 1Password and other password managers come with browser extensions that automatically detect sites in which you might want to save existing passwords or generate new ones.
From the desktop application, click "preferences" and then "browsers" to install the extension in your browser of choice. If you click the extension within the browser, you'll get an interface that’s like a stripped-down version of the desktop one:
If you're using Internet Explorer and don't see the 1Password extension, you may have to make sure the command toolbar is visible.
Like the desktop application, the extension provides a list of websites for which you have accounts:
And a password generator:
When you navigate to a site for which you have a saved login, clicking the browser extension will provide the option of filling the login fields. You can also take this opportunity to generate a stronger password for that site if you haven't already. If you navigate to a site for which you don't have password data saved, 1Password will (most of the time) offer to save it or help generate a new password.
The desktop application does allow you to copy passwords to your computer's clipboard and then manually paste them into a website form (using Control-V on Windows or Command-V on Mac.) By default, the password only remains in the clipboard a short period of time, such as 90 seconds. However, 1Password officials say it's more secure to let the browser extension fill in the data automatically to protect yourself from keylogging malware that reads keystrokes or text from the clipboard. You must always type your master password—do not store it in a file and copy and paste it—but 1Password uses a "secure input mode" to protect your master password from keyloggers by preventing applications from observing your typing. In the event your 1Password data file is stolen, AgileBits uses PBKDF2 technology to increase the amount of time it takes to run automated password guessing programs, making them impractical.
"Given how known keyloggers work, 1Password protects against them," Goldberg said. "This is all a bit of an arms race between password managers and keyloggers. Even though the good guys are ahead today, this is a game that is stacked against us in the long run. I think that the only reason that we remain in the lead is that the keylogger writers are content to keep their keyloggers simple at the cost (to them) of not getting the passwords from people who use well designed password managers."
Whether you use a password manager or not, the existence of keyloggers that can read passwords as you type them is just one more reason to practice good desktop security, using antivirus software and keeping your PC up to date with all the latest security fixes.
genomecop Smack-Fu Master, in training
momsfrenchtoast has worked for years. I see no reason to change.
autodefenestrator Seniorius Lurkius
Good advice throughout, especially putting in nonsense to the reset questions.
[edit: nevermind --- I see you did mention KeePass(X). ]
31 posts | registered Dec 20, 2012
Uncompetative Ars Scholae Palatinae
I'm a little concerned that these password managers copy a generated password to your clipboard.
What if you forget to overwrite it and a work collegue pastes what remains in there when you are AFK?
stormtalon Ars Scholae Palatinae et Subscriptor
I've done the nonsense answer thing for a while with my benefits reminder Q&A at work for years. Best is when they let you enter your own question freeform -- that way you can enter a question that you can be sure someone will "know" the answer two and frustrate them with an answer that is a complete non-sequitur. For example: "What is the average airspeed of an unladen swallow?" makes for a fine question -- as long as the answer has absolutely NOTHING to do with Monty Python.
Random misdirection is one thing -- but a question that leads would be hackers down an entirely wrong path is altogether more fun.
jbrodkin Ars Scholae Palatinae et Subscriptor
Uncompetative wrote:
By default, it is only left in the clipboard for a short period of time (like 90 seconds).
Good point, though, I just added a sentence to make that clear.
Also, it's only in the clipboard if you manually click the copy button. When the browser automatically fills in a password it doesn't go into the clipboard.
Last edited by jbrodkin on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:28 pm
Zoc Ars Praetorian
So it's necessary to use special browsers on phones and tablets?
That's a huge strike against the usability of password managers for mobile devices, and yet the alternative, writing things down on a piece of paper, is at its riskiest when the piece of paper is in a wallet together with your phone in a coat pocket or purse, since you are likely to lose them or have them stolen together. It seems like there may be an opening for Apple or another mobile vendor to produce an official password manager, and yet I can't help feeling that such a thing would instantly become the world's greatest hacking target.
I suppose the only thing to do is to either not use sites that have your credit card or other data on mobile devices, or reserve the use of the special password manager-embedded browsers to those sites.
kccqzy Smack-Fu Master, in training
Just a poor man's password manager solution for those who do not want to use someone else's password manager solution: I have an OpenSSL-encrypted shell script that generates a password by asking for the site's domain name, doing some transformations, SHA-512 it and base64 encode it. Whenever I need a password, I just enter the "master password" to decrypt that shell script, pipe it to bash, enter the domain name for the site and voila. Simple and effective.
Calreth Smack-Fu Master, in training
I find myself going the strong password and good security practices route every now and then, only to give up in defeat and choosing the path of least resistance.
Complex passwords are great, until you have to enter them on a mobile device, or if you desperately have to log in to something when you don't have your mobile phone with you (not often, but it does happen in places where camera phones, or even phones in general are prohibited), or it's out of battery (now this happens a lot). The situation gets even more complex when 2FA comes into play.
Now you're stuck, and you try to reset your password, and realize that answers to all your secret questions were also a bunch of randomly generated strings (also, this is pretty fun when trying to phone support and getting asked questions to verify your identity).
Then you go fuck it all, and when you're back, change it all back to the path of least resistance.
I don't think it's that users are against choosing good security, but preferring to choose a balance between security and usability.
As an aside, Avast is now selling a password manager with its AV. I haven't paid much attention to it, but it seems that the general computer security vendors are officially jumping on this bandwagon.
Tuco Ars Scholae Palatinae
I don't trust my coworkers to keep my computer unlock when I leave my desk but not for your reasons. My coworkers are notorious for emailing inappropriate messages.
protospork Seniorius Lurkius et Subscriptor
Calreth wrote:
Complex passwords are great, until you have to enter them on a mobile device
The passwords for all the sites I sometimes use away from home are significantly weaker than the random throwaway sites I just toss into KeePass (and then, naturally, my bank password is mandated to be even weaker). It's a problem.
Ghentalicious Ars Scholae Palatinae
Somethings that I think are important to note about LastPass (and may exist in 1Password, but I haven't tried it, so I don't know):
1) It provides you the ability to enter your passphrase via a virtual keyboard, to minimize the risk when you're on a non-secure public computer
2) It additionally provides a mechanism for one-time-only passwords that replace your passphrase to additionally minimize the risk when you're on a non-secure public computer
3) It supports Google Authenticator for 2-factor authentication (which I appreciate quite a bit).
These tipped me over the edge and have made me really impressed with the amount of thought put into the password management systems available.
SPCagigas Ars Praefectus
Keepass (which is the only one I'm really familiar with) automatically clears the clipboard after a user-specified time -- I think the default is 30 seconds.
stormtalon wrote:
The problem, though, is having people that NEED access to your accounts can get stymied as well, if you aren't careful.
Zoc wrote:
KeePass (as I said before, I don't know the other alternatives that well) doesn't require a special browser on phones and tablets. Neither does LastPass (though LastPass does support an alternate browser). On Android, both put a notification in the shade to select either the user ID or password, so you can do that, then switch back to the browser of your choice.
Last edited by SPCagigas on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:00 pm
Not necessarily, at least on Android. When I used KeePass for Android it allowed you to copy-paste the password from the database to your browser. If you don't want to use the Firefox Mobile or Dolphin extensions, LastPass also allows you web access to your database. From there, you can click a site to login, if memory serves.
ThermalNoise Smack-Fu Master, in training et Subscriptor
Not only is the mobile experience bad, the desktop doesn't work that well either. Login forms tend to be on the front page of websites, and use fancy Javascript to show/hide the login box, which breaks the plugin. Also, the pages occasionally get redesigned in a way that hides the username/password from the browser plugin. You can re-save the password, but then you have to go in and manually copy over any extra data (i.e. security questions) that are saved in the entry. At this point (~2 years) less than half of the websites I visit regularly have functional auto-fill. Note: this applies to KeePass+KeeFox. I'm not sure about the other programs
One huge - and fairly easy - change would be for websites to provide a simple login page with stable HTML markup, and no nasty Javascript that makes password managers break. (And a way to find the page, which is often a problem today.)
Maybe Ars could lead here? In the process, Ars could change the login page to be served as HTTPS at the top level, and fix the man-in-the-middle security vulnerability.
[Edit]As Lee points out below, such a page exists, and it's linked from the JavaScript popup login.
https://arstechnica.com/civis/ucp.php?mode=login
Facebook and Google also have simple login pages:
https://www.facebook.com/login.php
https://accounts.google.com/Login
Last edited by ThermalNoise on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:56 pm
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ChefJoe Ars Centurion
ThermalNoise wrote:
I would appreciate a nice, straightforward login page for more websites (maybe lastpass could even offer a tab to help "convert" URLs it has stored into more direct-to-login URLs). Barring that, however, I find if you fill in all the boxes like you would to log in, and then have lastpass capture the fields (while that javascript bit is open or whatnot), it tends to do a pretty good job of capturing the fields and only minor editing is required.
BWinmill Wise, Aged Ars Veteran
This article strikes me as very poor advice.
It makes the assumption that hackers have access to the password in some form (e.g. the MD5 hashes mentioned in the earlier article), then proposes creating passwords that are so complex that they cannot be cracked with using current techniques and hardware. Since those passwords are too complex to remember, password managers are proposed.
I can tell you exactly what will happen if password managers become commonplace: hackers will start focussing their attacks on the password managers. Once they have a viable attack on the password manager, they are going to have a comprehensive list of your account credentials. That means all of your accounts, not just one.
The reality is that the security has to be managed by the site in cases like this, and about the only thing that you can do to protect yourself is to use different passwords for different services (and to minimize how much the site knows about other services that you may use). The worse thing that you can do is open up additional vectors for attackers, which is essentially what a password manager is.
leedo Ars Scholae Palatinae et Subscriptor
To all the people complaining about the Ars popup login, we have a standalone HTTPS login page here:
sgould Smack-Fu Master, in training
That's why there's keepass/lastpass clients for pretty much every mobile device ever, also keep my keepass database with portable executables on my keychain (and don't login to untrustworthy terminals.) I don't even bother with the mobile apps, I just copy it to my KDE clipboard and let klipper generate a barcode, then I scan it from my screen, paste it into the form and let the app/browser store that info or use a cookie. There's a few that I don't keep in my keepass database, but it's nice to take off the majority of the burden and not have to worry too much when my data is in the hands of some dumbass web dev.
I also don't see how the last is an issue if it's just a few random characters. The idea is to not use dumb answers that someone can easily figure out just by knowing you and to not use the same answer on every site at least. With any decent password manager there exists a comment section where you can include that information.
SPCagigas wrote:
Pretty much every keepass, including the forks, also support autotype.
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Owl Saver Ars Praetorian et Subscriptor
SnowGhost wrote:
genomecop wrote:
How abut the fact it's not secure in any way. Did you even read the article and the two previous articles on the subject?
A simple word + word + word dictionary attack will crack it very easily.
And m0msFr3nchT0@st isn't any more secure because it's
word + word + word with standard letter <--> number subsitition thrown in. Which any cracker software should do.
However if you did M6m2F4en7h7oa92 that would be better. It's still based on momsfrenchtoast but I did random letter <--> number subsitution. But it still suffers from the fact it's only basic alphanumeric. You'd want to add in a $ or ( and a space and maybe something else. So you end up with
"M m2F(en7h7oa92!&"
I've mutated your simple and insecure momsfrenchtoast to something that is secure. But of course now you can't remember the stupid thing.
I think the poster was kidding - it gave me a chuckle.
baloroth Ars Scholae Palatinae
BWinmill wrote:
Good. Password managers are designed from the ground up to be high security and difficult to attack. Most websites are not.
The only viable way to attack password managers (most of them, anyways) is locally on the end-user's computer. If the attacker has access to your computer, you are screwed. Sure, the password manager can minimize the risk by through secure input and whatnot, but the reality is, if you can access the password vault, so can the attackers.
Additionally, attacks against password managers have to be done individually. Hitting a website can net you millions of different passwords. Hitting a manager only nets you one. Sure, it sucks to be that user, since he loses all his passwords, but "cybercrime" doesn't pay if you're attacking users one-by-one.
leedo wrote:
Nice, thanks! It looks old-fashioned enough that it probably won't change.
The discoverability is still a problem - a forum comment doesn't exactly make that login page easy to find. [Edit: As Lee points out below, there is actually a link to this version of the login in the JavaScript popup. I just didn't see it.]
And - not an Ars problem - updating my KeePass entry took probably 2 minutes (add a new entry, make sure it works, make sure there's no extra data in the old entry, delete it). It would be really nice if KeePass had a way to update the login page info, without creating a new entry.
I would like there to be a password manager on my smart phone that communicates with my desktop via bluetooth or NFC. That was all my passwords would be under my control and not in the cloud. I will pass on these other solutions.
It would be great if every site had a well defined plain text login screen that is only intened for use by a password manager. The standard could be that it is always called https://aaaa.com/passmgrctrl or such. aaaa is just a placeholder. That would be really useful. It should also support changing passwords so that the manager can change the password. It should present the password rules. It should limit use so that fast attacks are not allowed.
chaoswarriorx Ars Centurion
What are folks opinions on 'keyboard location' based passwords?
QsCpl<!)
I've had to deal w/ some corporate services requiring more-complex-then-usual passwords, and this is a method I've recommended that users have responded to - memorizing a pattern, not a word.
Last edited by chaoswarriorx on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:27 pm
With LastPass (Firefox extension on Desktop), my failure rate has been about 5%.
kccqzy wrote:
How exactly is that the poor-man's solution? KeePass is certified FOSS, available for whatever contribution you feel approptiate.
NavyGothic Ars Tribunus Angusticlavius
I think you're missing something very important here - password managers are specifically designed to be extremely difficult to defeat the encryption.
That's the key here. If all passwords are salted and hashed using an expensive algorithm, it's prohibitively expensive for a hacker to obtain actual passwords from a hacked database unless they're targeting one specific account.
Unfortunately, we can't rely on websites storing passwords securely, and thus we need to use long random passwords to keep our accounts safe from attacks.
Unlike websites, we can rely on our password manager having excellent security, because that's what it was designed for. Is it a foolproof solution? No, but of the available options it's by far the best.
Sancticide wrote:
It's even lower with KeePass -- especially if you take a moment to configure the autotype options when you create the entry. It also handles non-browser apps that require passwords, so it's pretty flexible.
Owl Saver wrote:
This seems technically possible. Maybe if we get enough people using password managers it would happen. Just add an http header like
<link rel="auto-login-page" href="https://example.com/login.xml" />
and let the KeePass/LastPass plugin detect it and provide a "login" button in the browser's UI. Or any of hundreds of other implementations - it isn't all that hard a problem, just one that requires coordination.
Last edited by ThermalNoise on Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:02 pm
xoa Ars Tribunus Angusticlavius et Subscriptor
I'm glad Ars has given this a more in-depth article as it's an important topic. Password managers are an unfortunately necessary hack to help deal with utterly non-existent standards when it comes to authentication. There are many approaches sites could use to improve the situation, ranging from a standard hidden form field that could accept a hash from a compliant program in lieu of a password all the way up to certificates (either of which could eliminate the issue of leaks), but those approaches of course do require sites to take action and there has yet to be any strong movement from that. In the mean time we're stuck with a wide variety of non-standard and often mediocre name/pass forms, and a password manager is critical to handling that. I don't get what
such as challenges in setting up a network of trusted third parties to handle authentication
means since there should be no third parties involved with authentication and none are necessary beyond the initial SSL connection, but the sentiment that most sites are lazy is unfortunately quite correct.
Regarding email:
For this, it may be wise to use a secondary e-mail address that you don't use to communicate with anyone.
One addition to this that I would suggest looking at for people who own a domain is aliases. Email services (particularly free ones included with the domain) typically have a low number of allowed mailboxes. But all decent services should also allow adding an effectively unlimited number of aliases to any given mailbox, which in turn makes it easy to have a unique email address for every site. I use standard naming of domain.com-username@mydomain.com. That's useful particularly in dealing with spam and as an early warning system for hacks. The only mail that should ever come to the alias domain.com-username@mydomain.com is from domain.com. If I suddenly notice email arriving from somewhere else, then either domain.com has decided to deal with spammers or their database has been hacked.
Doesn't keepass2 on win support autotype natively without an extension? and I've only encountered one website (paypal) that breaks, and that's only with the most recent overhaul of their design
The discoverability is still a problem - a forum comment doesn't exactly make that login page easy to find.
I agree it's not ideal, but if you look closely at the login popup there is a link to the standalone login form. We're definitely open to changing it, but the popup login does offer some convenience IMO. Perhaps with a bit of tweaking we can get the password managers working better with the popup.
VioletTaxi Seniorius Lurkius
A password manager only works if you use it, and I couldn't commit to the user experience of a password manager until I found Dashlane. I feel Dashlane deserves a mention in this article, since it certainly compares to 1Password, LastPass and company.
Dashlane Dashlane provides a smart (and easy-to-use) cross-platform desktop app paired with great browser plugins and mobile apps for iOS and Android. Fully-encrypted syncing is built in (not a 3rd-party function), with the only key tied to your master password. Your private data can only be decrypted locally, with 2-step verification for any new devices. The company recently moved to a more mature business model of $20/year for synced service between 2 or more devices, but your first device is still a free place to start.
I've used Dashlane for a year and appreciated it as a brand new password manager built around secure syncing and a great application/plug-in experience. They are steadily improving their service and I'm impressed at how efficiently they respond to bugs and suggestions.
Unfortunately, Dashlane is now more expensive than LastPass or 1Password. Still, none of the other managers give me everything I want. I prefer a dedicated app (easier to maintain than a browser-based solution), built-in syncing (less worrisome than 3rd-party patches) and a good-looking easy-to-use UI (easier to learn and troubleshoot for the less technically-inclined).
Last edited by VioletTaxi on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:40 pm
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Panick Ars Scholae Palatinae
I recently signed up for online bill pay with my bank and found out they only accept letters and numbers as a password. I will definitely be using a password manager going forward just to provide more security for such issues.
xoa wrote:
= I don't get what
In the scenario that part of the article discusses, the third parties would be similar to certificate authorities.
sgould wrote:
Yes it does, at least on Windows. Ctrl-Alt-A calls KeePass, and autofills if you've already logged into KeePass. If you aren't logged in, you get a log-in prompt first. If the log-in screen matches multiple entries in your KeePass database, it gives you a nice list of accounts to choose from.
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Denise Green
Ephemeral Traces
We who love: The Nolan slates
25 November 2016 – 2 April 2017
Denise Green
synthetic polymer paint on canvas
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The Denise Green / Francis X. Claps Collection gifted through The University of Queensland in America, Inc. Foundation. The University of Queensland, 2013. Reproduced courtesy of the artist.
Photo: Carl Warner
The work of Denise Green AM came to prominence in 1978, when her paintings in the exhibition New image painting at the Whitney Museum of American Art, New York, were recognised for their spare yet resonant visual language. Born in Melbourne, Green grew up in Brisbane and studied in Paris and New York. She settled in New York City in 1969, where she continues to live and work.
Green exhibits regularly in the USA, Europe and Australia, and in recent decades retrospectives of her work have been presented at P.S.1 Center for Contemporary Art/MoMA, New York; Art Gallery of New South Wales, Sydney, and Museum Kurhaus Kleve, Kleve. She is the author of Metonymy in Contemporary Art (2006) and Denise Green: An artist’s odyssey (2012). This exhibition offers an opportunity to reappraise her work, including her recent photo collages.
Denise Green celebrates the major gift of works that the artist’s husband Dr Francis X. Claps MD made to UQ in 2013.
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Panel Discussion: Emotional geography, memory and the personal
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Listen to artist Denise Green and curator Michele Helmrich discuss the exhibition
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Naomi Blacklock presents her performance, Aflame, A Singing Sun (2019), the residue of which will remain in the gallery space. Blacklock’s enactments often include natural elements, such as turmeric or dirt, and sound recordings of reverberated movements of her body upon a mirror.
Aflame, A Singing Sun is conceived as a healing space for personal power and calls upon the history of individuals seeking self-sovereignty. A golden ring of fire rendered on the alcove wall frames the space and directly references a Hindu motif, the Prabhavali. Regularly positioned around artistic depictions of deities, these halos of fire symbolise a cycle of creation and destruction.
In her performance, Blacklock positions her body behind a large golden gong and activates the sun, a symbol of life and death, through the gong percussions hitting her body. Recent data reveals that the flames from the sun’s surface metallically vibrate, emitting a low and pulsing frequency, like a gong.1 In alchemy, the sun’s energy possesses the same qualities as fire. Witches are masters of fire – they brew potions and concoct spells over fiery flames. Blacklock’s use of charcoal in the performance echoes similar sentiments, as charcoal speaks of fire, smoke, and heat. Moreover, while charcoal is used for healing purposes, it can also be poisonous.2
Blacklock approaches the figure of the witch as a channel to move through, rather than a trope to appropriate from. By placing her body in the work, Blacklock controls her image, concealing and revealing herself. The ritualised performance and resulting residue of Aflame, A Singing Sun emerge simultaneously and speak of the sun’s spirit – its mythology, its matter, its power.3
Naomi Blacklock (b. 1990, Alice Springs, Northern Territory) lives and works in Brisbane, Queensland. She is currently a PhD candidate in Visual Arts at Queensland University of Technology, Brisbane, where she also received a Bachelor of Fine Art, Honours (2016). Solo exhibitions and commissions include Conjuring Alterity, Outer Space, Brisbane (2018); Häxan (Witchcraft through the Ages), Institute of Modern Art (IMA), Brisbane (2018); Parallel Presence, IMA, Brisbane (2017); and BLACK MASS, Seventh Gallery, Melbourne (2016). Blacklock also featured in the group exhibition NETHERWORLDS, which toured Firstdraft Gallery, Sydney; The Walls Art Space, Gold Coast; Seventh Gallery, Melbourne; and Spring Hill Reservoir, Brisbane (2016–2018). Blacklock was shortlisted for the Jeremy Hynes Award, IMA (2017).
Kate Atkinson and Micheala Sosby, “Sounds of the Sun,” NASA, 25 July 2018, https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2018/sounds-of-the-sun.
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Performance documentation from NETHERWORLDS exhibition, Spring Hill Reservoir, Brisbane, 9 June 2018.
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Sri Lanka’s churches shut, Catholics celebrate Mass at home Sri Lanka’s Catholics celebrated Sunday Mass in their homes by a televised broadcast as churches across the island nation shut over fears of militant ...
Churches strike deal to restore Jerusalem holy site JERUSALEM (AP) — The three churches in charge of Jerusalem’s holiest Christian site say they have reached an agreement to begin a multi-million ...
Southern Baptist Convention Vows to Address Sex Abuse in Its Churches Thousands of pastors voted to address the problem in a concerted way for the first time, enacting two new measures they say are a first step to reform...
Breaking taboos, Germany's main churches tackle suicide More Germans die every year from suicide than from traffic accidents, AIDS, drugs and murder combined. Germany’s two main churches now want to promote...
Sri Lankan Cardinal Cites ‘Foreign Intelligence’ Saying More Attacks on Churches are Possible (COLOMBO, Sri Lanka) — Sri Lanka’s Catholic cardinal says that he has received “foreign information” that attempts would be ma...
VP Pence praises members of black churches torched by arson Speaking in front of the remains of an African American church in Louisiana torched by an arsonist, Vice President Mike Pence says attacks on communit...
Study: German churches to lose half their members by 2060 A study predicts that Germany’s two main Christian churches will lose millions of members over the coming decades and have to tighten their financial ...
Sri Lankans attend Mass at home with churches shut down after bombings With churches in Sri Lanka closed a week after suicide bombings killed more than 250 people on Easter, Catholics in the island nation celebrated Mass ...
New Zealand's highest court rejects Eminem damages appeal New Zealand's top court on Tuesday rejected an appeal by U.S. rapper Eminem against a lower court ruling that reduced the damages a political party wa...
Amazon signs 'Damages,' 'Bloodline' co-creator to an exclusive deal If you're a fan of dimly lit shows about terrible criminals, then keep your eyes on Amazon Prime. The streamer announced it has signed Glenn Kess...
Prince Harry paid damages over pictures of his Oxfordshire home Duke and Duchess of Sussex forced to move out of house after ‘security threatened’Prince Harry has accepted substantial damages and an apology from a ...
The Latest: Tornado damages tiny town in eastern Kansas KANSAS CITY, Kan. (AP) — The Latest on tornadoes in the Midwest and Plains states (all times local): 7:40 p.m. A tornado has damaged homes in a tiny t...
Judge Overturns $128.5 Million in Punitive Damages to 'Bones' Talent In a win for Twentieth Century Fox Television, a judge has overturned the $128.5 million in punitive damages that an arbitrator awarded to the stars a...
Judge tosses $128M damages in ‘Bones’ profit dispute LOS ANGELES (AP) — A judge has overturned a $128 million punitive damages award to the stars and producers of the long-running Fox TV show “Bone...
Montpellier damages Saint-Etienne’s Champions League dream SAINT-ETIENNE, France (AP) — Striker Gaetan Laborde scored the only goal as Montpellier damaged Saint-Etienne’s hopes of qualifying for the Cham...
Tourism Suffers In Sri Lanka After Bomb Blasts Targeting Hotels, Churches Tourist arrivals in Sri Lanka tumbled 7.5 percent in April from a year ago, as travellers shunned the island nation after the deadly Easter Sunday bom...
U.S. churches, some immigration officers denounce sending asylum seekers to Mexico U.S. faith leaders on Thursday expressed outrage over a Trump administration policy that sends asylum seekers to some of Mexico's most violent cities,...
Germany's Protestant and Catholic churches predicted to lose millions of members Germany's Catholic and Protestant churches may lose half their members by 2060, according to a study. A drop in membership is expected to lead to a ma...
Amazon may have to pay damages for house fire caused by faulty hoverboard, court says A federal appellate court says Amazon may have to shell out damages for a fire that destroyed the $1 million home of a Nashville family. ...
UK's Prince Harry wins damages over aerial pictures of his private home Prince Harry, Britain's Duke of Sussex, has accepted substantial damages and an apology from a news agency which took photographs of his home from the...
Junk food irreversibly damages sperm by the time you’re 20: Harvard study Eat well, finish better. Pizza, candy, chips and other processed, high-fat food can cause permanent damage to sperm, according to a new study from Har...
Midtown fire destroys local business and damages others shops nearby TUCSON – The fire was so massive, witnesses could see the smoke throughout the city of Tucson. It took fire crews about an hour to get the flame...
U.S. Supreme Court to mull punitive damages against Sudan over embassy bombings The U.S. Supreme Court on Friday agreed to hear a bid to reinstate $4.3 billion in punitive damages against Sudan in a lawsuit accusing it of complici...
Exclusive: Kazakhstan to seek damages from Transneft for tainted oil loaded in Ust-Luga Kazakh oil flowing via Russia to be loaded on tankers at the Baltic Sea port of Ust-Luga has been contaminated and Kazakhstan plans to seek compensati...
Immigrants taking sanctuary in U.S. churches to avoid deportation face large fines Immigrants taking sanctuary in U.S. churches to avoid deportation are being told by U.S. ICE that they face hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines ...
Brazil court convicts miner Vale for damages caused by deadly dam rupture A Brazilian state judge on Tuesday convicted mining company Vale SA for damages caused by the deadly rupture of a tailings dam in January that killed ...
Jury Finds Oberlin College Libeled a Bakery and Awards $11 Million in Damages The verdict raised questions about the responsibility of colleges to police students’ speech and behavior, as well as broader First Amendment issues....
Judge advises $14m in damages to Jewish woman targeted by neo-Nazi ‘troll storm’ Daily Stormer publisher incited his readers to contact Tanya Gersh, who received threatening emails, texts and voicemailsThe publisher of a neo-Nazi w...
Brazil Judge Holds Mining Company Liable for Damages of Deadly Dam Breach The ruling represented the first time the mining giant Vale has been formally held responsible for a disaster that unleashed a wave of toxic mud and k...
Louisiana deputy's son charged with federal hate crimes in connection with fires at black churches The suspect in a string of fires that destroyed three black churches in rural Louisiana earlier this year was indicted on federal hate crime charges i...
Iraq: UN demining agency rejects desecration accusations, involving historic Mosul churches The United Nations Mine Action Service (UNMAS) in Iraq issued a statement on Thursday rejecting allegations made earlier this week by a non-profit org...
Man suspected of setting fires at Louisiana black churches charged with federal hate crimes The man suspected of setting fire to three churches in St. Landry Parish has been indicted on federal hate crime charges. ...
Southern Baptists approve changes aimed at expelling churches that don't address sexual abuse The Southern Baptist Convention, the nation's largest Protestant denomination, held its annual meeting in Birmingham, Alabama. ...
Sexual abuse in Southern Baptist churches expected as major topic at annual meeting Southern Baptists may enact changes to hold churches accountable and keep people in their pews safe at a June meeting in Birmingham, Alabama. &...
J&J ordered to pay $300 million in punitive damages in talc baby powder case. Vows to appeal Johnson & Johnson must pay $300 million in punitive damages to a woman who blamed her rare asbestos-related cancer on the company's talc-based pr...
A Photo Agency Took Photos of Prince Harry’s Bedroom From a Helicopter. It’s Now Paid Him ‘Substantial Damages’ (LONDON) — Prince Harry settled privacy and data protection claims Thursday against a news agency that hovered over his home in a helicopter and...
UN, world leaders, condemn Sri Lanka terrorist attacks targeting churches, hotels, which leave more than 200 dead More than 200 have been killed and hundreds injured by a series of explosions inside churches and hotels in Sri Lanka, as Christians gathered for serv...
Federal hate crime charges filed in connection with three fires that destroyed African American churches in Louisiana NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Federal hate crime charges filed in connection with three fires that destroyed African American churches in Louisiana....
Quake II RTX is out now, and it’s ready to eat your GPU Quake II RTX Remastered is out now from Nvidia. You can get it for free with the first three levels or play the whole game if you already own Quake II...
School shooting outside Denver injures at least 7 Gunfire has erupted inside a suburban Denver middle school, wounding at least seven people. Two suspects were taken into custody. (April 7) ...
| China earthquake kills 12, injures 134 The toll from a strong 6.0-magnitude earthquake in southwest China rose to 12 dead and 134 injured as rescuers pulled bodies and survivors from wrecke...
Peru earthquake injures several people At least five people have been injured in Peru and a further seven in neighboring Ecuador after an 8.0 magnitude earthquake struck northern Peru on Su...
How to Get the Beautiful 'Quake II RTX' Re-release for Free The classic first-person shooter Quake II is getting re-released with some awesome graphical updates. Better yet, it’ll be completely free for you to ...
Three coal miners die in Poland after quake Three miners died after a tremor on Monday at a Polish coal mine owned by mining group PGG, the company said, in the deadliest incident in the country...
You Can Now Download Quake II Remastered for Free Nvidia has launched a graphically-updated version of Quake II - dubbed Quake II RTX - to show off the ray-tracing capabilities of its platform, found ...
One week later, a 4.9 quake hits Ridgecrest A 4.9-magnitude earthquake was reported near Ridgecrest, California, on Friday morning -- one week after a 7.1-magnitude temblor struck Southern Calif...
The free 'Quake II RTX' demo is now available on Steam To show off the capabilities of path tracing, NVIDIA has released an updated version of id Software's classic 1997 FPS Quake II. You can play the...
Earthquake In Southwest China Kills 11, Injures Over 100 The toll from a strong 6.0-magnitude earthquake in southwest China rose to 11 dead and 122 injured on Tuesday, as rescuers pulled survivors from wreck...
Shooting In Missouri Kills Three, Injures Two: Report Three men were found shot to death and two wounded by gunfire late on Monday at a home on the north side of St. Louis, Missouri, media said, citing po...
Warriors' Thompson injures hamstring, limps off Warriors star Klay Thompson exited Sunday's Game 2 of the NBA Finals against the Raptors in the fourth quarter with left hamstring tightness, accordin...
School shooting outside Denver kills 1, injures 7 Gunfire erupted inside a suburban Denver middle school, killing one and wounding at least seven others. Two suspects were taken into custody. (April 7...
Explosion at Florida shopping plaza injures 20 Twenty people were injured after a vacant pizza restaurant exploded in a South Florida shopping plaza on Saturday, according to police. (July 6) ...
Explosion on Bond 25 set injures crew member Outside of 007 Stage also damaged by what producers called a ‘controlled explosion’An explosion on the set of the new James Bond movie at Pinewood Stu...
Terror Attack at the Giza Pyramids Injures 16 In Egypt, security sources have announced a suspected bomb attack on a tourist bus near the world-famous Giza pyramids. Initial reports indicate that ...
Crane collapse kills four, injures three in Seattle A giant construction crane operating at the site of a future Google campus collapsed from the roof of a building and toppled across a Seattle intersec...
Egypt Attack on Tourist Bus Near Pyramids Injures at Least 14 At least 14 people were injured Sunday in an explosion targeting a sightseeing bus near Egypt’s famed pyramids, according to state-owned media, the se...
Cambodia building collapse kills 10, injures over 20 A seven-story building under construction in Cambodia to be turned into a hotel collapsed Saturday, killing 10 people and injuring more than 20, poli...
Bear injures 80-year-old woman in Slovenia LJUBLJANA, Slovenia (AP) — Police in Slovenia say an 80-year-old woman has been slightly injured when a bear attacked her close to her home just south...
Rocket attack on Iraqi oil facility injures 3 A rocket attack on oil facilities in Basra, Iraq, early Wednesday injured three workers, marking a continued escalation of incidents connected with th...
Tornado Kills 2, Injures Dozens In Oklahoma Emergency workers check what is left of the second floor of a hotel, Sunday, May 26, 2019, in El Reno, Ok., following a likely tornado touchdown late ...
Scores of aftershocks hit Indonesia after quake kills two Indonesia's Moluccas islands was hit by scores of aftershocks on Monday after an earthquake killed at least two people, prompting hundreds of people t...
Las Vegas roller coaster swaying in quake Preliminary estimates by the U.S. Geological Survey say a 7.1 magnitude quake hit in Southern California Friday night, and it was felt all the way in ...
Gov. Gavin Newsom speaks to president after quake California's governor says President Trump committed to help. Speaking to reporters after touring the damage zone, Gavin Newsom said California m...
California could be hit by even bigger quake in coming days Reeling from its worst earthquake in two decades, California could be rocked by an even bigger one in the coming days, experts warn. Southern Californ...
Vegas Summer League postponed by 7.1 quake A 7.1 magnitude earthquake hit in Southern California on Friday night and was felt all the way in Las Vegas, forcing the postponement of a summer leag...
Quake causes panic in eastern Indonesia; one killed A magnitude 7.3 earthquake struck the Moluccas islands in eastern Indonesia on Sunday, the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) reported, killing one person ...
Quake III Arena is the latest game to see AI top humans Enlarge / Representation of some of the behaviors developed by the FTW algorithm. (credit: Deep Mind) Google's AI subsidiary Deep Mind has built its...
Egypt explosion injures tourists near Giza pyramids At least 17 people were wounded in an explosion that targeted a tourist bus on its way to visit Egypt's Giza pyramids, a doctor at the hospital where ...
Dallas Crane Collapse Kills 1 and Injures 5, Officials Say The crane toppled amid severe winds and sliced into an apartment complex in downtown Dallas on Sunday. One person was killed and at least five others ...
Tavares injures side and will miss worlds for Canada TORONTO (AP) — Maple Leafs center John Tavares injured his side while practicing with the Canadian team and will miss the upcoming world championships...
Runaway golf cart injures U.S. Open spectators A box fell on a golf cart's accelerator, causing it to drive in large circles until someone jumped in and knocked the box off. A spinal injury and a b...
Blast In French City Of Lyon Injures 8; Causes Unknown LYON, France (AP) — French local officials say that an explosion in the city of Lyon has caused minor injuries to eight people. Kamel Amerouche, the r...
Explosive Device in French City of Lyon Injures at Least 13 The precise nature of the device was not immediately clear, but President Emmanuel Macron said the explosion in Lyon, in central France, was an “attac...
Arsenal fire in Kazakhstan injures 46, prompts evacuation MOSCOW (AP) — A fire engulfed a sprawling ammunition depot in Kazakhstan Monday, causing powerful explosions that injured at least 46 people and force...
Fire at migrant camp in Bosnia injures 29: police Twenty-nine migrants were injured in a fire that broke out early on Saturday at a migrant camp in the northwestern Bosnian town of Velika Kladusa, pol...
New Mexico blast involving fireworks injures several firefighters Several firefighters were injured on Wednesday, two seriously, in an explosion at a building in Roswell, New Mexico, where fireworks were being stored...
Blast injures at least 16 tourists on bus near Giza pyramid in Egypt At least 16 people riding a tourist's bus near the Giza pyramid in Egypt suffered non-life-threatening injuries in an explosion Sunday, according to a...
Lightning strike injures up to 12 people in South Carolina A lightning strike on the Fourth of July injured as many as a dozen people near a South Carolina sand bar, according to reports. The incident was repo...
Jos Buttler a doubt for West Indies after he injures hip hitting six • Jonny Bairstow takes over gloves against Bangladesh• Eoin Morgan says Jason Roy may have Test futureEoin Morgan moved to play down fears over Jos Bu...
Fire at migrant center in Bosnia injures 29: police Twenty-nine migrants were injured in a fire that broke out early on Saturday at a center in the northwestern Bosnian town of Velika Kladusa, police sa...
Shooting At NBA Championship Celebration In Canada Injures 4 People Four people were injured, some seriously, after a shooting at the NBA championship celebration for the Toronto Raptors, police said. In a Monday eveni...
Suspected mountain lion attack injures California boy SAN DIEGO (AP) — California wildlife officers are investigating a suspected mountain lion attack that injured a 4-year-old boy in a San Diego County w...
Philippines’ Firebrand Take more than 7,600 islands, add 100 million people, throw in a twist of corruption, an unhealthy slug of poverty and a dab of dynastic politics and ...
Strong aftershock jolts California as residents mop up after quake A strong aftershock shook Southern California early on Friday as residents were still assessing the damage from the July 4 quake, the strongest in the...
DeepMind AI uses teamwork to defeat human 'Quake III' players After developing an AI system that can beat Go and chess, Google-owned DeepMind started tackling a different class of games: multiplayer ones, which u...
Quake with 7.3 magnitude strikes in eastern Indonesia: USGS An earthquake with a magnitude of 7.3 struck southeast of the city of Ternate on Sunday, in the Moluccas in the eastern area of Indonesia, the U.S. Ge...
Magnitude 6.8 quake hits east of New Caledonia: USGS An earthquake with a magnitude of 6.8 was recorded in the South Pacific east of New Caledonia, the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) said on Sunday, but t...
MLB roundup: Padres top Dodgers as quake rattles stadium Hunter Renfroe hit a go-ahead home run in the eighth inning and Eric Lauer pitched six strong innings as the visiting San Diego Padres ended their fiv...
Quake shakes NW Japan, causes 21 injuries and minor damage A powerful earthquake jolted northwestern Japan, causing minor injuries to 21 people and a brief evacuation of coastal homes until the risk of a tsuna...
Quake II Gets A Demo Re-Release For Modern Graphics Hardware Quake II is a dark, flat game, and not the most obvious choice for a company wanting to showcase new graphics tech. But then, maybe that’s the whole p...
NVIDIA is giving away the 'Quake II' ray-tracing demo on June 6th Earlier this year, a team inside NVIDIA took Quake II and ran it through its ray tracing system to see if the 1997 title could be gussied up. The resu...
Strong quake rocks northern Peru, one dead Peruvian authorities were scrambling to assess the damage after an earthquake with a magnitude as high as 8.0 rocked the Peruvian Amazon region in the...
Death of man under vehicle believed due to California quake -officials A Nevada man found dead and pinned underneath his Jeep is believed to have been a victim of one of the recent earthquakes in southern California that ...
Dodgers fans recount quake shaking stadium Fans at a baseball game in Los Angeles said they felt the earthquake that hit California on Friday night. The quake rattled Dodger Stadium in the four...
California desert braces for aftershocks from major 7.1 quake Emergency officials in Southern California's high desert braced for strong, potentially dangerous aftershocks from a major earthquake that damaged bui...
California desert braces for aftershocks from second, stronger quake High desert communities in Southern California on Saturday braced for potentially dangerous aftershocks from a major earthquake that damaged buildings...
Alphabet's balloons broadcast LTE two days after Peruvian quake When a magnitude 8.0 earthquake hit Peru Sunday, the Alphabet spinoff Loon was quick to respond. Within 48 hours, Loon delivered its internet-relaying...
Tennessee man purposely runs over, kills pregnant mom, son, injures 2 others: police Claiming a mysterious voice told him to "kill meth addicts," and aiming his Chevrolet Impala at the targets he says the voice chose, a 33-year-old man...
Massive tornado kills 6 people, injures 190 in northeast China A tornado blew through a city in northeast China, damaging factories and buildings, killing six people and injuring another 190. &#...
Massive explosion at Russian bomb-making factory injures 79 A massive explosion at a bomb-making plant in Russia has injured 79 people and damaged 180 homes in the city of Dzerzhinsk. Officials said the factory...
Bangladesh train derailment over canal kills five, injures 100 - police A passenger train derailed in Bangladesh on Monday, killing at least five people and injuring more than 100, and there could be more casualties inside...
Iran official says coal mine collapse kills 2, injures 1 TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran’s state-run IRNA news agency is reporting that a mine collapse has killed two miners and injured another in the central...
Syrian TV: Israeli rocket strike kills a soldier, injures 1 DAMASCUS, Syria (AP) — Syrian state media says an Israeli rocket attack has struck the country’s south, killing one soldier and injuring another...
Shooting at French mosque injures famous imam in Brest A well-known and controversial imam and one other person were wounded in the attack on the Sunna mosque in Brest on the French Atlantic Coast. The gun...
Polish police: masked teenager injures 2 in primary school WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Polish police say a girl and a woman have been hurt when a masked man entered a primary school in central Poland and threw firec...
3rd Shark Attack in North Carolina This Month Injures 8-Year-Old Only three shark attacks were reported in the state in all of 2018, according to the International Shark Attack File. But experts say there is often y...
Warriors see Thompson, Durant suffer serious injures in last 2 games of season The Golden State Warriors had more bad luck at Game 6 of the NBA Finals Thursday when swingman Klay Thompson tore his ACL on his left knee with less t...
Migrant clash in Bosnia injures scores, including 3 police SARAJEVO, Bosnia-Herzegovina (AP) — Police say they have detained 20 people after a clash involving some 100 migrants in northwestern Bosnia injured s...
Gun battle rages in Afghan capital after Taliban blast injures 100 Afghan security forces on Monday were battling Taliban gunmen who stormed a building in the capital, Kabul, after a bomb-laden truck exploded near th...
Lightning strike in Colorado injures 8 hikers, 1 critically, officials say Several people were injured -- including one critically -- when lightning struck near a group of hikers in Colorado on Sunday, according to officials....
Diego Costa injures ankle in Atletico Madrid friendly MADRID (AP) — Atletico Madrid says Diego Costa sprained his left ankle in the team’s 2-1 loss in a friendly against Beitar Jerusalem on Tuesday....
Gas line blast levels house in California, kills one and injures 15 A utility worker was killed and 15 other people were injured on Monday when a ruptured gas line triggered an explosion that leveled a house and shatte...
Dembele injures leg, will miss Barca's game at Liverpool Barcelona has says that France forward Ousmane Dembele has a leg injury and is unfit to play just two days before its Champions League semifinal at Li...
California Synagogue Shooting: Gunman Kills 1 Person and Injures 3 On the last day of Passover, a gunman opened fire inside a synagogue in Poway, Calif., killing one person and wounding three others. Authorities said ...
Roadside bomb injures tourists near Giza pyramids, officials say Egyptian officials say bomb hit tourist bus near Cairo site, wounding at least 16 peopleEgyptian officials say a roadside bomb has hit a tourist bus n...
Gunman kills two, injures four at University of North Carolina, Charlotte A gunman reported to have been a student opened fire in a building at the University of North Carolina's Charlotte campus on Tuesday, killing two peop...
Major Fire At Power Station In Moscow Region Injures Many A major fire broke out at a power station in the Moscow region on Thursday, injuring six to nine people, the energy ministry and Russian media reports...
Shooting at Mexican protest kills 2 union leaders, injures others MEXICO CITY — A union official accompanying protesting street vendors was shot to death Wednesday during the demonstration outside city hall in the so...
YouTube engineer injures 8 in drug-fueled rampage: deputies A “delusional” YouTube software engineer attacked four friends — including one he stabbed with a pencil — and rammed a stolen truck into pedestrians i...
What’s Pimpin’, Pippen? NBA Great Scottie Pippen’s Suing a 5-Year-Old and Her Parents in Dispute Over Damages to His $10,000,000 Mansion It’s a damn shame when you put up folks in your home and they — literally — piss all over it. That’s the charge NBA great Scottie Pippen is making in ...
A 7.1 magnitude earthquake hit Southern California following another quake on the Fourth of July Chad Mayes/AP An earthquake with a preliminary magnitude of 7.1 magnitude hit Southern California Friday evening, just one day after another massive ...
Strong quake strikes off El Salvador, no initial reports of damage An earthquake measured at 6.6 magnitude struck off the coast of El Salvador early on Thursday, though emergency services in the Central American count...
Magnitude 6.2 quake strikes off Indonesian island of Sumatra: USGS A magnitude 6.2 quake struck southwest of the Indonesian city of Sibolga on the island of Sumatra on Monday, the U.S. Geological Survey said. There we...
Man Dead Under Jeep Believed To Be A Victim of California Quake: Report A Nevada man found dead and pinned underneath his Jeep is believed to have been a victim of one of the recent earthquakes in southern California that ...
7.2 Magnitude Quake Hits Papua New Guinea, No Reports Of Serious Damage A powerful but deep 7.2-magnitude earthquake rocked Papua New Guinea on Tuesday, officials said, cutting power and knocking items off shelves though t...
Another earthquake shakes Southern California, day after most powerful quake in 20 years _____ LOS ANGELES — For the second day in a row, a powerful earthquake shook Southern California. Friday’s 7.1-magnitude quake knocked out power...
Quake II gets free real-time raytracing updates on June 6 This is how Quake II looks in your rose-colored memories, isn't it? While Quake II's fast-paced first-person ...
Nvidia adds ray-tracing support to Quake 2 with free upgrade Now this brings me back. Remember Quake 2? This iconic first-person shooter was released towards the tail-end of the 1990’s, and boasted fast-paced an...
Papua New Guinea assesses extent of damage from strong quake WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AP) — Papua New Guinea authorities are assessing the extent of damage from a powerful earthquake that rattled coastal towns t...
Strong quake in Peru kills one person, disrupts some oil operations A magnitude 8 earthquake killed one person, destroyed dozens of homes and disrupted some oil operations as it rocked Peru early on Sunday, authorities...
Quake of magnitude 6.4 strikes off Kermadec islands in Pacific: USGS A 6.4 magnitude quake struck off the Kermadec islands in the Pacific on Thursday, the U.S. Geological Survey said. There were no immediate reports of ...
Disabled workers help Haitians who lost limbs in 2010 quake Haitians who lost a limb in the devastating 2010 earthquake are getting help nearly a decade later thanks to a small group of disabled workers at an i...
Magnitude 5.6 quake strikes near remote community in northern California A 5.6 magnitude earthquake struck 5 kilometers (3.1 miles) south-southwest of the small community of Petrolia in northern California on Saturday eveni...
New early quake detection in California could automatically halt trains The back-to-back earthquakes in California ended a period of relative seismic calm and brought renewed awareness to development of the state's early w...
California expanding early quake detection and warning system California officials are spending more than $40 million on an earthquake early warning system that in addition to alerting the public could also be us...
| Strong 6.1 magnitude earthquake strikes NE of Tonga: US quake monitor A magnitude 6.1 earthquake struck centred 97 kilometres (60 miles) north-east of Ohonua, on the Pacific island of Tonga, the US Geological Survey repo...
Quake of magnitude 6.6 strikes west of Australia's Broome: USGS An earthquake of magnitude 6.6 struck west of Australia's beach resort of Broome, the United States Geological Survey said on Sunday, with residents s...
Californians jolted by strong aftershock following strongest quake in 25 years A strong aftershock shook Southern California early on Friday as residents were still assessing the damage from the strongest earthquake in the region...
Strong quake shakes Southern California; no immediate reports of damage A powerful earthquake of magnitude 6.4 struck Southern California near the city of Ridgecrest, some 200 miles (320 km) northeast of Los Angeles, the U...
Quake causes panic in eastern Indonesia; no reports of major damage A magnitude 7.3 earthquake struck the Moluccas islands in eastern Indonesia on Sunday, the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) reported, causing panic among...
Powerful aftershock hits California after strongest quake in 20 years A powerful aftershock has hit Southern California following the US state's strongest earthquake in 20 years - amid warnings an even bigger seismic eve...
Big quake rattles area of 20 million people in California; no one killed A powerful earthquake jolted Southern California on Thursday, touching off fires, damaging buildings and forcing the evacuation of a hospital in a des...
Quake won't immediately change Groningen gas output plans -gov't spokesman A 3.4 magnitude earthquake that hit the northern Dutch region of Groningen on Wednesday will not immediately alter current plans for gas production th...
Fears of bigger California tremors after strongest quake in 20 years The strongest earthquake to hit Southern California in 20 years came after a "swarmaggedon" of 1,000 small tremors last month - and experts warn an ev...
Magnitude 3.4 quake hits gas field region of north Netherlands A 3.4 magnitude earthquake hit the north Dutch region of Groningen, home to one of Europe's largest natural gas fields, early on Wednesday, Dutch mete...
Magnitude 7.1 Earthquake in Southern California Is Second Major Quake in Two Days A magnitude 7.1 earthquake struck southern California on Friday night at around 8:19 p.m. local time, with a reported epicenter around 10 miles to the...
Undersea quake near Indonesia's Bali causes panic, minor damage An undersea earthquake with a magnitude of 6.1 struck south of Indonesia's Bali on Tuesday, the European earthquake monitoring agency EMSC said, causi...
Strong quake hits island chain off New Zealand; no tsunami A magnitude 7.4 earthquake struck an arc of islands off New Zealand on Sunday, and the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center said it may cause only minor sea...
Powerful Southern California quake, second in two days, causes damage, injuries A powerful magnitude 7.1 earthquake shook Southern California on Friday, causing some damage to buildings, fires and some injuries, with eight times m...
Ivory Coast accident kills Spanish woman, injures 10 girls MADRID (AP) — Spain’s Foreign Ministry says a Spanish woman has been killed and 10 Spanish girls have been injured in a traffic accident in the ...
Yemeni rebel missile attack injures 26 at airport in Saudi Arabia Attack comes as Japan’s PM arrives in Tehran in effort to ease US-Iranian tensionsYemeni rebels said they fired a cruise missile at a civilian airport...
Apartment fire kills baby, injures 5 kids while moms were at nightclub An early morning fire on Sunday killed an eight-month-old baby and injured five small children in Tennessee, while their mothers were at a nightclub, ...
Lightning strike near South Carolina river injures as many as a dozen people As many as a dozen people were hurt when lightning struck a popular river gathering spot in South Carolina on Independence Day. ...
Fire kills two inmates, injures guard at Alaska village jail A fire, apparently started by an inmate, engulfed a jail in an Alaska village on Sunday, killing two prisoners and badly injuring a guard, authorities...
Powerful EF3 tornado kills 2, injures 29 in Oklahoma town recovering from flooding A deadly tornado ripped through an Oklahoma City suburb Saturday night, destroying a motel and causing massive damage. ...
Florida mall explosion injures roughly 20; Plantation authorities investigating Plantation, Florida, fire officials say the shopping center blast may be have been a gas explosion. One person has life-threatening injuries. &...
French police hunt suitcase bomber after blast in Lyon injures 13 French police were hunting a suspected suitcase bomber on Friday after an explosion in the central city of Lyon that injured 13 people, officials said...
Pakistan PM hits out at poor railways as crash kills 11, injures dozens A passenger train crashed into a stationary freight train in Pakistan on Thursday, killing 11 people and injuring more than 60 under overturned carria...
Vargas throws shutout, Canó re-injures quad as Mets beat SF NEW YORK (AP) — Jason Vargas pitched his first shutout in two years, Amed Rosario hit a three-run homer and the New York Mets beat the San Francisco G...
Blast injures South African tourists near Egypt's Giza pyramids An explosion targeting a tourist bus injured at least 12 people on Sunday, mostly South African tourists, near a new museum being built close to the G...
Eating from the garbage dump in the Philippines In the Philippines, food waste is on the rise. At the same time, many are forced to sift through the garbage dump to find something to eat. Some are t...
Philippines rocked by powerful earthquake A new powerful earthquake hit the central Philippines on Tuesday, a day after a magnitude 6.1 quake rattled the country’s north and left at leas...
U.N. to probe Philippines drug war deaths The U.N. Human Rights Council voted on Thursday to set up an investigation into mass killings during Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte's so-called ...
Over 18,000 government posts up for grabs in Philippines More than 18,000 government posts are up for grabs in elections in the Philippines on Monday. President Rodrigo Duterte is not on the ballot, but the ...
Quake of magnitude 7.5 shakes East Timor, Australia; no tsunami feared A powerful, deep 7.5 magnitude earthquake struck off the coasts of East Timor and Indonesia on Monday, and was felt as far away as Australia, but auth...
Quake of magnitude 7.5 shakes East Timor, Indonesia; no tsunami feared A deep earthquake of magnitude 7.5 struck off the coasts of East Timor and Indonesia on Monday, the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) said, and Pacific mo...
Tokyo Olympics torch relay includes quake, tsunami-hit areas TOKYO (AP) — The organizing committee of the 2020 Olympics said Saturday the torch relay next year will pass through major Japanese landmarks, includi...
To Restore Internet Access After a Massive Quake, Peru Turned to Balloons Loon - an Internet-providing balloon service owned by Alphabet, Google's parent company - is providing Peru's people with wireless broadband communica...
Magnitude 6.8 quake strikes south southeast of Kermadecs in Pacific: USGS A magnitude 6.8 quake struck south southeast of Raoul Island in South Pacific chain of the Kermadec Islands, the U.S. Geological Survey said. There we...
Powerful quake jolts northwest Japan, tsunami warning issued A powerful earthquake has jolted northwestern Japan, and officials are warning of a tsunami of up to one meter (3.3 feet) high along parts of the coas...
Quake won't immediately change Groningen gas output plans: government spokesman A 3.4 magnitude earthquake that hit the northern Dutch region of Groningen on Wednesday will not immediately alter current plans for gas production th...
Strong aftershock jolts same California desert region day after major quake A strong aftershock shook Southern California early on Friday as residents were still assessing the damage from the strongest earthquake in the region...
6.9 magnitude quake strikes in eastern Indonesia, tsunami alert issued A 6.9 magnitude earthquake struck off the northeastern coast of Indonesia’s Sulawesi island late on Sunday, according to the U.S. Geological Survey, p...
Aftershocks from California’s latest 7.1 magnitude quake could occur for years: expert There is about a 1-in-10 chance that another 7.0 quake could hit within the next week, said Lucy Jones, a seismologist at the California Institute of ...
Magnitude 7.1 earthquake hits Southern California the day after a large quake hit the region RIDGECREST, Calif. (AP) – Magnitude 7.1 earthquake hits Southern California the day after a large quake hit the region....
7.1 magnitude quake strikes in eastern Indonesia, tsunami warning issued A 7.1 magnitude quake struck off the northeastern coast of Indonesia's Sulawesi island late on Sunday, prompting authorities to issue a tsunami warnin...
Governor estimates California quake toll at $100 million, says poor have been hit hardest Although Californians are on the path to recovery, deeper devastation - in economic recovery - has already taken root. ...
UPDATE 3-Strong quake in Peru kills one person, disrupts some oil operations A magnitude 8 earthquake killed one person, destroyed dozens of homes and disrupted some oil operations as it rocked Peru early on Sunday, authorities...
5.4 magnitude aftershock rocks Southern California following strongest quake in decades A strong aftershock shook Southern California early on Friday as residents were still assessing the damage from the July 4 quake, the strongest in the...
Magnitude 7.5 quake hits off Papua New Guinea, teams assess damage Disaster officials dispatched local relief teams in Papua New Guinea's New Britain province on Wednesday to monitor remote communities for casualties ...
Indonesia lifts tsunami warning after weekend quake, no damage reported There were no reports on Monday of major damage in Indonesia from a weekend earthquake of magnitude 6.9 off the northeastern coast of the island of Su...
Paula Abdul injures Julianne Hough with hat toss at Billboard Music Awards Paula Abdul closed out the Billboard Music Awards with a truly knockout performance — and Julianne Hough was almost a casualty of the former "American...
James Bond film set rocked by stunt explosion that injures one crew member The set of the 25th James Bond film starring Daniel Craig was hit by an explosion when a stunt went wrong, injuring one crew member. ...
Runaway golf cart injures 5 people in freak accident at US Open; two sent to hospital A vendor was loading his golf cart at Pebble Beach when a box fell onto the vehicle's accelerator and propelled the cart into a group of people. ...
YouTube engineer 'on drugs rampage injures 8 with truck, light, and sharp pencil' A HIGH-flying software engineer who works for YouTube allegedly perpetrated a bizarre series of assaults after he took LSD and had “really bad trip.”...
Shooting kills college football player, injures Giants' pick Police in Kansas are investigating a shooting that killed current Washburn University football player Dwane Simmons and wounded former player Corey Ba...
Prince William and Kate's convoy escort injures elderly woman in crash An elderly woman is in hospital with serious injuries after she was struck by a police motorbike escort for Britain's Prince William and his wife Kate...
Philippines recalls ambassador to Canada over trash row The Philippines has recalled its ambassador to Canada in an escalating row after Ottawa missed a deadline and failed to reclaim garbage shipped to Man...
Earthquake terrifies residents in southern Philippines A moderately strong earthquake has struck the northeastern coast of Mindanao island in the southern Philippines. Officials have reported injuries and ...
Philippines: 1st known Filipino suicide attacker identified A Philippine general says authorities have identified as a Filipino militant one of two suicide attackers who set off bombs that killed five people an...
Philippines withdraws top diplomats from Canada over trash row The Philippines is withdrawing top diplomats from Canada after Ottawa missed a deadline to take back 69 shipping containers full of trash, the latest ...
US to launch new program to fight extremism in Philippines U.S. and Philippine officials on Tuesday were discussing a new program to thwart efforts by Muslim extremists to recruit and mobilize followers in the...
Philippines midterm elections likely to boost Duterte Voters are expected to pick candidates who will help President Rodrigo Duterte advance his agenda, including a bloody and controversial war on drugs t...
Philippines' Midterm Election Looks Likely to Boost Duterte Filipinos voted in midterm elections that polls suggest could strengthen President Rodrigo Duterte’s support and his plans to reintroduce the death pe...
Earthquake of 6.3 magnitude strikes central Philippines A magnitude 6.3 earthquake struck the central Philippines on Monday, the U.S Geological Survey (USGS) said, and a Reuters witness said office building...
Google's DeepMind AI Takes Down Human Players In Quake III's Capture The Flag Mode Google’s DeepMind AI lab has been hard at work creating programs to take on human players across a variety of games these last few years. In 2016 its ...
British inquiry: Oxfam GB covered up sexual abuse at Haitian camps after quake A British charity covered up reports that its workers sexually exploited young Haitian girls and women in the aftermath of the 2010 earthquake, the Ch...
UPDATE 2-Quake of magnitude 7.5 shakes East Timor, Australia; no tsunami feared A powerful, deep 7.5 magnitude earthquake struck off the coasts of East Timor and Indonesia on Monday, and was felt as far away as Australia, but auth...
Revealed: Satellite images show huge crack caused by California quake The impact of Southern California's strongest earthquake in 20 years has been revealed after satellite images showed how a huge crack emerged in the E...
China rejects claims fracking caused Sichuan quake: state media Chinese officials said there were no indications that a deadly earthquake in the southwestern province of Sichuan this week was caused by excessive sh...
YouTube software engineer injures 8 in drug-induced Fourth of July rampage, police say Betai Koffi's alleged drug-induced rampage in Bodega Bay brought a violent end to eight people's Fourth of July, authorities in California s...
Nashville apartment fire kills baby, injures 5 children, while mothers were at nightclub, investigators say An early morning fire on Sunday killed an eight-month-old baby and injured five small children in Tennessee, while their mothers were at a nightclub, ...
Warriors survive Game 5 but Kevin Durant injures Achilles’: ‘Incredible win and a horrible loss’ Golden State, which had fallen in a 3-1 hole in the best-of-seven series, won on the road Monday to force a return to Oakland, Calif., for Thursday’s ...
No injuries reported after potent quake rattles Southern California; authorities assessing scene There were no immediate reports of injuries or significant damage after a 6.4 magnitude earthquake rattled parts of Southern California and Nevada on ...
British Charity Commission: Oxfam GB failed to report sex abuse after 2010 Haiti quake British regulators said in a report Tuesday that humanitarian organization Oxfam GB failed to disclose cases of child abuse involving its workers in H...
California earthquake: Fears even bigger quake could strike in next three days after largest tremor in 25 years California could be hit by an even bigger earthquake in the next three days after a powerful 6.4 magnitude tremor hit the region - the largest in 25 y...
Strong quake strikes northwest Japan, triggers small tsunami, power cuts A strong and shallow earthquake struck Japan's northwest coast around Niigata prefecture on Tuesday, triggering a small tsunami, shaking buildings and...
For U.S. Commandos in the Philippines, a Water Pump Is a New Weapon Against ISIS A water pump is linked to the defeat of the Islamic State’s self-proclaimed caliphate in Iraq and Syria and the Pentagon’s race to stop the group’s re...
Philippines overflows with millions of mangoes as El Niño take effect Agriculture department sets up stalls around Manila in bid to get rid of fruit before it rots The Philippines is struggling under the weight of a swee...
Philippines bans pig imports from Laos due to swine fever: WTO The Philippines has banned imports of pigs and pig products from Laos due to an African swine fever outbreak, it said in a filing published by the Wor...
UN approves probe of mass killings in Philippines’ ‘war on drugs’ The first-ever resolution on the Philippines, led by Iceland, was adopted by a vote of 18 countries in favour and 14 against, including China, with 15...
The Philippines Says It Will Dump Garbage in Canada’s Waters If They Don’t Take It Back The President of the Philippines, Rodrigo Duterte, says his government has hired a private shipping company to send containers full of Canadian trash ...
Canada Agrees to Take Back Trash Sent to Philippines Years Ago The garbage, which was mistakenly shipped to the Philippines in 2013 and 2014, had been the subject of a diplomatic dispute and outrage from President...
Philippines denounces Chinese fishing boat for collision The Philippines on Wednesday denounced the crew of a Chinese fishing boat that collided with a Philippine vessel and left 22 Filipino fishermen abando...
Philippines faces call for U.N. investigation into war on drugs killings More than two dozen countries formally called on Thursday for a United Nations investigation into thousands of killings in Philippine President Rodrig...
| 51 injured as shallow earthquake rocks southern Philippines Fifty-one people have been injured and several homes, churches and other buildings were damaged when an earthquake sent terrified residents of the sou...
U.N. rights experts seek inquiry into Philippines killings United Nations human rights experts called on Friday for an international investigation into unlawful deaths and police killings linked to a crackdown...
Magnitude 5.5 earthquake strikes in southern Philippines, 25 injured An earthquake of 5.5 magnitude struck northern Mindanao in the south of the Philippines early on Saturday, injuring 25 people and causing damage to se...
Philippines normalizing Canada relations after garbage dispute There is no word yet on a return to Canada of the Philippine ambassador or consuls general, who were withdrawn until Canada took back a big load of ga...
Philippines protests sinking of boat in disputed waters The Philippines' top diplomat said Thursday he has filed a diplomatic protest after an anchored fishing boat was hit by a suspected Chinese vessel whi...
Philippines orders Filipinos to leave Libyan capital Philippine officials say they have issue a mandatory evacuation order for more than 1,000 Filipinos in the Libyan capital amid escalating fighting, ro...
Philippines slam UN human rights probe of drug war The United Nations Human Rights Council has voted to investigate the thousands of killings in the Philippines tied to President Rodrigo Duterte's ongo...
Philippines ships 69 containers of rubbish back to Canada Container ship M/V Bavaria, with tonnes of garbage on board, has left Subic Bay on a 20-day journey to VancouverThe Philippines has followed through o...
Canada needs to ban garbage exports, advocates say following Philippines dispute The spotlight on the global shipping of garbage grew bright in recent weeks as the diplomatic fight over garbage between Canada and the Philippines ga...
| Orphan goes from sniffing 'Rugby' glue to playing for the Philippines Long before Lito Ramirez was one of the Philippines' first homegrown rugby stars he was a six-year-old orphan addicted to sniffing glue, who survived ...
'Widow Candidate' Tradition In Philippines' Deadly Polls Gertrudes Batocabe never wanted to enter the Philippines' cutthroat politics, but after her husband was shot dead, allegedly by a rival in next week's...
At War: A Military Exercise in the Philippines That Contends With Both ISIS and China This is what happened during a recent military exercise in which American soldiers trained Philippine troops to fight both a major foreign power and a...
Philippines military: Dutch birdwatcher killed during gunfight Philippine military officials said Friday a Dutch man held hostage by militants of Abu Sayyaf in the southern Philippines was killed during an armed s...
Philippines midterms could strengthen Duterte's hold on Senate Over 60 million voters are going to the polls across the Philippines for midterm elections on Monday that are being seen as a bellwether for the popul...
‘Baaaaaaaaa Bye.’ Philippines Ships Trash Back to Canada A cargo ship loaded with 69 containers of garbage left the Philippines Friday for Vancouver, Canada amid an escalating diplomat row over international...
Philippines ships trash back to Canada after heated row Tons of garbage exported from Canada to the Philippines years ago is being sent back to its source. This comes as several Asian countries rebel agains...
Philippines election: Duterte allies on course for senate victories Loyalists including police chief behind drug war and Marcos’s daughter will hand populist more powerThe architect of Rodrigo Duterte’s brutal campaign...
Dutch hostage killed while trying to escape from militants in Philippines A Dutch photographer held hostage by Islamic State-linked militants in the Philippines since 2012 was killed on Friday by his captors when he tried to...
Amnesty urges UN to investigate Philippines drug killings As Philippines President Duterte's war on drugs rages on, Amnesty International is calling for a UN investigation. At least 6,000 people have been kil...
Philippines Sets Deadline for Canada to Take Back Trash President Rodrigo Duterte demanded that tons of garbage mistakenly sent to his country be returned by May 15, threatening otherwise to dump it on Cana...
Philippines: Abu Sayyaf chief likely plotted suicide attacks JOLO, Philippines (AP) — A Philippine official says an Abu Sayyaf commander aligned with the Islamic State group most likely plotted the suicide attac...
Dutch Hostage Killed While Trying To Escape In Philippines: Army A Dutch birdwatcher held by Islamic State-linked terrorists was killed on Friday during a firefight between his kidnappers and soldiers in the souther...
Canada waste returns home after Philippines' war threat More than 60 containers full of garbage have returned to the western shores of Canada after being stranded for years in the Philippines. The incident ...
Philippines recalls envoys in Canada over trash shipments The Philippine foreign secretary says the ambassador and consuls in Canada are being recalled over Ottawa's failure to take back truckloads of garbage...
World War II U.S. prisoner of war identified 7 decades after death in Philippines Scientists have identified the remains of an Army sergeant who died more than seven decades ago in a Philippine prisoner of war camp during World War ...
Philippines declares national alert after 456 die from dengue fever Health authorities in the Philippines have declared a "national dengue alert" after a spike in cases of the viral disease which has left more than 450...
Philippines gives thumbs-up to Duterte as loyalists dominate election Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte looked set on Tuesday to strengthen his grip on power after unofficial results of a mid-term election showed big ...
Syrian state TV: Israeli rocket attack against military post in south kills 1 soldier and injures another DAMASCUS, Syria (AP) — Syrian state TV: Israeli rocket attack against military post in south kills 1 soldier and injures another ....
Prince William and Kate Middleton "Deeply Concerned and Saddened" After Royal Convoy Seriously Injures a Pedestrian An elderly British pedestrian has been hospitalized after Prince William and Kate Middleton's police escort collided into her on Monday. The Duke an...
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Why won't we let robots into our homes – and our hearts? Last week, Anki, creator of adorable robots that are part toy, part virtual assistant and part pet, went out of business. “It is with a heavy h...
Ship carrying waste arrives back in Canada from the Philippines A ship carrying 69 containers of waste mislabeled as plastic recyclables returned to Canada on Saturday from the Philippines, closing a chapter on a ...
Philippines slams sinking of boat by suspected China vessel The Philippine defense secretary says an anchored Filipino fishing boat has sunk in the disputed South China Sea after being hit by a suspected Chines...
Kentucky Man Accused In Murder-For-Hire Fights Extradition From Philippines BOWLING GREEN, Ky. (AP) — A Kentucky man in Filipino custody is challenging extradition to the U.S. where he’s being charged with complicity to ...
Philippines: Isis claims bombing that killed five on Jolo island Officials say local affiliate Abu Sayyaf was likely behind blast that targeted elite army unit Five people including three soldiers were killed in a b...
Philippines' top senator chides Iceland for abortion, U.N. drugs war probe The Philippines' highest-ranking lawmaker said on Monday a U.N. resolution to probe the country's bloody war on drugs should be ignored, and its chief...
'War on drugs' makes Philippines fourth most dangerous country – report Duterte’s violent anti-drugs operations are responsible for 75% of civilian deaths this yearPresident Rodrigo Duterte’s declaration of a “war on drugs...
Amal Clooney will represent Philippines journalist Maria Ressa International human rights lawyers Amal Clooney and Caoilfhionn Gallagher QC will lead a team representing Maria Ressa, the award-winning Philippines ...
Hit-and-Run Collision in Disputed Waters Tests Philippines' China Ties The alleged sinking of a Philippine fishing boat by a Chinese vessel has emerged as the biggest test yet of President Rodrigo Duterte’s pivot to China...
Impeach Me, I'll Jail You: Philippines' Rodrigo Duterte Dares His Rivals Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has threatened opponents with prison if they try to impeach him, the latest in what a top UN official and an Asia...
Magnitude 5.8 earthquake strikes northern Mindanao, Philippines - USGS An earthquake measured at a verified magnitude of 5.8 struck northern Mindanao in the Philippines archipelago early on Saturday local time, the U.S. G...
Littoral combat ship USS Montgomery arrives in Philippines on first deployment The USS Montgomery arrived in the Philippines, its first deployment and the first time in 19 months a littoral combat ship was used in forward deploym...
UN rights body launches probe into Philippines drug war deaths The UN Human Rights Council will investigate extrajudicial killings in the Philippines. At least 6,000 people have been killed by police in the war on...
National alert in Philippines as dengue victim count soars Authorities in the Philippines say dengue cases have risen by more than 80% since last year. Early detection of the disease can dramatically reduce fa...
| WATCH: Philippines ships dumped trash back to Canada Tonnes of garbage sent to the Philippines years ago was shipped back to Canada on Friday after a festering diplomatic row, as Asian nations increasing...
Philippines sends trash back to Canada after Duterte escalates row The Philippines has started returning dozens of shipping containers full of trash to Canada after a long-running row over waste exports that has teste...
Tired of being trashed, Philippines ready to dump garbage in Canada Philippine President Duterte has given Canada two options for garbage sent to the Philippines years ago: Take it back or watch it wash up on Canadian ...
Philippines recalls its envoys in Canada over tons of rotting garbage The move is the latest escalation in a long-simmering conflict involving containers that were shipped to the Philippines containing household waste in...
Canada to pay full cost of bringing garbage home from Philippines Canada has agreed to pay the full cost of bringing 69 garbage-laden shipping containers back across the Pacific Ocean to Vancouver - but it remains un...
'The odour of burning wakes us': inside the Philippines' Plastic City In Valenzuela City, residents blame recycling plants for pungent smells and respiratory illnessesAs noon approaches in Valenzuela City and residents p...
Cargo ship arrives in Philippines to return Canadian trash A Philippine official says a cargo ship has arrived in a northern port to pick up and return 69 containers of Canadian garbage which the government in...
Canada to haul back mountains of trash sent to Philippines years ago Canada will take back tons of garbage shipped to the Philippines years ago, in a major victory for President Rodrigo Duterte in a diplomatic row which...
'Bring it on' - Philippines' drug war commander invites probes into killings The top enforcer of a brutal war on drugs in the Philippines on Friday dared prosecutors to go after him for the deaths of thousands of people, after ...
Canada will accept garbage containers wrongly sent to Philippines, says Manila Canada has agreed to take back 69 containers of garbage that were wrongly sent to the Philippines and will pay for their transport, Manila said on Tue...
Philippines midterm elections boost Rodrigo Duterte's power Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte's allies appear to have scored sweeping victories in the country's midterm elections. The results signal broad pu...
Philippines Hits Back at Call for U.N. Inquiry of Police Killings A presidential spokesman called the experts’ report “an outrageous interference,” adding that the government’s “primary duty” was to protect its citiz...
Philippines: mid-terms clear way for Duterte to reinstate death penalty Allies of strongman president score victories in elections, leaving the Senate at his mercyRodrigo Duterte has won a sweeping victory in mid-term elec...
Rights Experts Urge U.N. Inquiry Into ‘Staggering’ Killings in Philippines In a condemnation of President Rodrigo Duterte’s administration, 11 United Nations experts said the body’s Human Rights Council should investigate a w...
Philippines President Orders Garbage Shipped Back To Canada President Rodrigo Duterte has ordered tonnes of garbage dumped in the Philippines years ago to be shipped back to Canada, his spokesman said Wednesday...
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How jazz reached the homes of millions Was the first jazz album recorded in New York or in Berlin? For International Jazz Day, expert Bert Noglik discusses the role of technology for pionee...
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Ship carrying 69 containers of garbage arrives in Canada after journey from Philippines The Anna Maersk, carrying 69 containers of Canadian garbage and e-waste, docked at Deltaport near the Tsawwassen ferry terminal just after 7 a.m. on S...
India Joins Naval Exercises By US, Philippines, Japan In South China Sea Indian Navy on Thursday participated with the navies of the US, the Philippines and Japan in their first joint naval exercise in the disputed South Ch...
Philippines sets deadline for Canada to ship out garbage in filthy standoff Canada has agreed to pay to re-export the waste it shipped to the Philippines back home, but "bureaucratic red tape" is slowing down the process, acco...
Calls for justice, intervention as Philippines buries drug war's youngest known victim One by one, a mother and her children splash holy water over a white coffin barely a meter long. On the dirt floor beneath it lies a pair of tiny pink...
Philippines' Globe Telecoms launches 5G service backed by Huawei equipment Philippines' Globe Telecom Inc on Thursday launched Southeast Asia's first 5G broadband service, with embattled Huawei Technologies Co Ltd providing t...
Philippines' Duterte accepts China's proposal to jointly investigate collision Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has accepted China's proposal to jointly investigate allegations that a Chinese fishing vessel abandoned 22 Filip...
Ex-Philippines Minister Denied Hong Kong Entry Over Diplomatic Passport The Philippines said on Saturday its former foreign minister may have been denied entry into Hong Kong over his diplomatic passport, shying away from ...
Duterte’s Allies Seek to Dominate the Midterm Elections as the Philippines Goes to the Polls (MANILA, Philippines) — Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte’s name is not on the ballot, but Monday’s midterm elections are seen as...
The Philippines is shipping back Canada’s heaping garbage. What’s Ottawa going to do with the trash? A cargo ship has arrived in a northern port in the Philippines, and is ready to return a massive pile of rotting garbage to Canada — 1,500 tonnes to b...
Philippines voters back Duterte and his drug war as he closes in on midterms victory Unofficial results show president’s allies have won nine key upper house seats, traditionally a bulwark against his controversial policiesPhilippine P...
Philippines has a mango surplus of 4.4 million pounds and is selling them for dirt cheap The mango surplus this year was caused by El Niño, which caused weather conditions to be particularly conducive for growers. ...
Exclusive: Tesla woes send Panasonic's U.S. solar cells to Philippines Most of the solar cells made by Panasonic at Tesla Inc's New York manufacturing plant are being purchased by H.R.D. Singapore's factories in the Phili...
Duterte's children elected as Philippines President consolidates power in midterms Three of Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte's children posted resounding victories in the country's midterm elections this week as voters responded...
Philippines senator defends police over toddler’s death in drug raid: ‘S--- happens’ A Philippines senator who was police chief during President Rodrigo Duterte’s notorious drug war, has been criticized for dismissing the death of a to...
Child marriages spike in Philippines violence-marred Marawi city A jihadist siege in the Philippines' Muslim-majority Marawi city displaced over 400,000 people in 2017. People are returning to their homes, but with ...
UN chief condemns deadly terrorist attack on church in southern Philippines United Nations Secretary-General António Guterres has condemned the deadly terrorist attack on a church in restive southern Philippines early Sunday, ...
Philippines senator defends police over toddler's death in drugs raid Ronald dela Rosa says ‘shit happens during operations’ after three-year-old girl killedA senator who oversaw the most violent period in the Philippine...
Philippines threatens to dump rubbish back in Canadian waters as row deepens Two nations have been at odds over 69 containers of waste sent to the Philippines in 2013 and 2014Philippines president Rodrigo Duterte has ordered hi...
The U.N. Human Rights Council Has Narrowly Agreed to Probe Killings in the Philippines (GENEVA) — The U.N.’s top human rights body has narrowly passed a resolution that includes calls for greater scrutiny in the Philippines. ...
Philippines President Kisses 5 Filipino Women At Public Event In Japan Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte kissed five Filipino women on stage during a speech in Japan's Tokyo, in front of his longtime partner, and said...
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Toyota and Panasonic team up on smart homes Toyota and Panasonic have announced that the two Japanese companies will form a new joint venture with the aim of developing connected services that w...
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Quakes in Albania damage 100 homes, four injured Six earthquakes in the space of two hours, the first with a magnitude of 5.3, shook south-eastern Albania on Saturday, injuring four people and causin...
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Toyota, Panasonic to set up company for 'connected' homes Japan's Toyota Motor Corp and Panasonic Corp said they plan to establish a joint company to develop "connected" services to be used in homes and urban...
Philippines: Imelda Marcos' 90th birthday ends with hundreds falling sick Hundreds were rushed to hospital after thousands had gathered to celebrate Imelda Marcos' birthday. The former first lady and her family have made a p...
Rodrigo Duterte's drug war front and centre as 61 million vote in Philippines midterms Election seen as referendum on president’s policies, with many watching to see how candidates in his family fareFilipinos vote on Monday in midterm po...
Amnesty International: Philippines police, contract gunmen kill for drug crusade Police in the Philippines under President Rodrigo Duterte have carried out extrajudicial executions with impunity, in the poorest neighborhoods, as pa...
Cargo ship arrives in Philippines, will transport 69 containers of garbage back to Canada A cargo ship arrived in a northern Philippine port on Thursday to transport 69 containers of garbage back to Canada that officials say were shipped il...
U.S., Japan, India and Philippines challenge Beijing with naval drills in the South China Sea In fresh show of naval force in the contested South China Sea, a U.S. guided missile destroyer conducted drills with a Japanese aircraft carrier, two ...
Philippines' Duterte threatens to dump trash on Canada's beaches following promises of war declaration A week after he warned Canada to take back garbage it shipped to the Philippines years ago, Filipino President Rodrigo Duterte is threatening to dump ...
Philippines' Duterte loses patience, orders trash shipped back Canada The Philippines' President Rodrigo Duterte has ordered his government to hire a private shipping company to send 69 containers of garbage back to Cana...
UN chief lauds Philippines’ ‘landmark achievement’ on setting up transition authority in Bangsamoro United Nations Secretary-General António Guterres congratulated the Philippines on Friday for establishing a government body to push forward the forma...
Philippines aims to sell 2.2M pounds of mangoes in June after fruitful harvest: official The Philippines announced a new agriculture program this week that is aimed at selling over 2.2 millions pounds of fresh mangos in the month of June a...
California earthquake: Celebs including Kylie Jenner and Nicky Minaj left shaken as larger 7.1 magnitude quake hits Celebrities including Kylie Jenner and Nicki Minaj were left shaken after a second earthquake rattled southern California, the largest to strike in tw...
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Gambhir ban upheld by ICC, will miss Nagpur Test
WALKING OFF: Gautam Gambhir walks back to the pavilion as the Australian team celebrates the fall of his wicket.
The International Cricket Council (ICC) has rejected the appeal of Gautam Gambhir and upheld the one-Test match ban imposed by match referee Chis Broad.
Justice Albie Sachs, who was appointed to hear the appeal, upheld the ban, which means Gambhir will miss the fourth and final Test match against Australia starting from November 6.
Justice Sachs, Cricket South Africa’s appointment on the ICC Code of Conduct Commission, was appointed to hear the appeal in accordance with ICC Code of Conduct processes.
Tamil Nadu opener M Vijay has been named as Gambhir’s replacement for Nagpur Test.
While handing out the one-Test ban on Gambhir, Broad said that he also considered an incident that happened almost a year ago when Gambhir went face to face with Pakistan’s Shahid Afridi in during an ODI Kanpur.
“The ICC has repeatedly told the players that deliberate physical contact between players will not be tolerated. I have also taken into account the previous offences of Gambhir and therefore, I am satisfied that the penalty imposed is an appropriate outcome in the circumstances of this matter,” Broad had said.
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England have the bulldog spirit to hit back: Michael Vaughan
Former England captain Michael Vaughan
Former captain Michael Vaughan has backed England to bounce back from the bitter loss in Chennai, saying that Kevin Pietersen and his men have the “bulldog spirit” to square the Test series against India in Mohali.
“One thing with the England team is we do have a ‘bulldog spirit’, a fighting spirit. We proved that in this game,” Vaughan said ahead of the second and final Test in Mohali starting December 19, 2008.
England dominated the first three days of the Chennai Test before losing the plot on the fourth day when Indian opener Virender Sehwag went on a rampage to snatch the match away from the visitors.
“It was a great game of cricket. Both teams played to an incredible standard in terms of what they’d gone through in the previous two weeks,” Vaughan was quoted as saying by ‘The Daily Telegraph’.
“The England team can be very proud of the way they played. For three-and-three-quarter days they dominated the Test and that is something which is very difficult to do in India,” he added.
Vaughan admitted that the six-wicket loss was a bitter pill to swallow, considering the way England dominated most part of the match. “The defining moment was that middle session (on day four) when we probably let the momentum sway back towards India when we could have nailed home the game.”
However, Vaughan, who is currently on a sabbatical from international cricket, said the task would be tough test of England’s mental strength. “We’ve just lost a real big game, a game that all the
lads would have expected to win on that fourth evening,” he said.
“It’s going to be a real task of mental strength. The boys are pretty drained and emotionally tired from what they’ve been through in the last few weeks. But if they win the toss, and bat, and get put runs on the board they can put India under a lot of pressure,” he added.
The right-hander, training with the England’s elite performance squad, said he is working towards his international comeback. “My mind is very refreshed and of course after such a great game of cricket I’m desperate to get out there and make decisions, play and score runs,” he said.
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England may return, first Test shifted to Mohali
The England cricket team is likely to return to India on December 3 to play the two Test series against India.
The first Test from December 11 to 15 has been shifted to Mohali from Ahmedabad. The second Test had been shifted to Chennai earlier itself after the terror attack on Mumbai.
The three-day practice game that was scheduled to be held in Baroda from December 5 to 7 is also likely to be played in Mohali.
England called off their seven-match ODI series with two more games to play after the terror attacks in Mumbai. The visitors were playing their fifth ODI in Cuttack on December 26 when terrorists struck India’s financial capital.
The team flew to Bangalore from where they flew back home. While some England cricketers have voiced their reservations about coming back to play in India, England skipper Kevin Pietersen has refused to be cowed down by the attacks.
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Gambhir ban takes the focus away from Test series
IN TRUE SPIRIT: Brett Lee congratulates Gautam Gambhir after the Indian scored his double century on the second day of the Test in New Delhi.
Gautam Gambhir will be able to play in the fourth Test against Australia at Nagpur after filing an appeal against the one-match ban imposed by the International Cricket Council (ICC).
But the big question is: did he need to banned in the fist place?
The incident spiralled into a controversy that took the focus away from what Gambhir should have really been making the headlines for, his run of form that has seen him make a century and a double hundred in the series
His teammates though believe a match ban was harsh.
“It is difficult to react but Gambhir admitted his guilt. One-match ban is too harsh. He should have been fined,” Virender Sehwag said.
Sources told CNN-IBN that the Australian camp wanted even sterner action against Gambhir.
The Australian media had in fact called the charge under Level 2 of the ICC Code of Conduct too timid. They wanted him to face a higher charge and as a result a harsher punishment.
“He used his hands. Physical contact is unquestionably not part of the game,” said Matthew Hayden.
Clearly, Gambhir hasn’t helped his case. Match referee Chris Broad said that he also consider an incident that happened almost a year ago when Gambhir went face to face with Pakistan’s Shahid Afridi in during an ODI Kanpur.
“The ICC has repeatedly told the players that deliberate physical contact between players will not be tolerated. I have also taken into account the previous offences of Gambhir and therefore, I am satisfied that the penalty imposed is an appropriate outcome in the circumstances of this matter,” Broad said.
Both camps had spoken of playing in the spirit of the game when the series began but with unsporting incidents which led to a fine for Zaheer Khan in Bangalore and now the Gambhir-Watson spat; it is evident that relations between the teams are far from cordial.
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Julian Assange’s Twitter account vanished for around 12 hours
Chris Mills @chrisfmills
December 25th, 2017 at 9:02 AM
Julian Assange’s personal Twitter account, @JulianAssange, has vanished from the platform. Users searching for his account this morning are met with an error page, indicating that the Wikileaks founder’s account has either been user-deleted, or suspended or banned by Twitter itself.
The official Wikileaks Twitter account, which in the past has appeared to be directly controlled by Assange, is still up and running. There’s no mention of what might’ve happened to Assange’s account on the Wikileaks account.
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Update 12/25 1145: Assange’s account is back, without an explanation about what happened to it in the first place. The only clue is a cryptic tweet from WikiLeaks described as an “oddity:”
Despite some oddities from the US Navy and Twitter today and increased physical surveillance @JulianAssange's physical situation at the embassy remains unaltered–confined without charge in violation of two UN rulings requiring the UK to set him free.https://t.co/ne7cQ2Uryw
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) December 25, 2017
The last tweet from Assange’s account came on December 22nd, and didn’t contain any material that Twitter might have found offensive:
However, Assange’s previous Tweets — and habit of posting personal information about individuals — might’ve caused him to run afoul of Twitter’s regulations. The platform has recently had a crackdown on prominent Twitter users overstepping the lines and violating Twitter’s terms of service, which has seen many prominent alt-right accounts suspended.
Twitter has not yet commented on the situation.
On alt-right Twitter, speculation is running rampant that Assange was suspended because he’s about to publish significant information about some kind of upcoming investigation. There’s no direct evidence to support that, and big news dumps have traditionally come via the official Wikileaks Twitter.
Assange has been living in the Embassy of Ecuador in London, UK, since 2012. He is wanted for questioning in Sweden over alleged sexual offenses, although no formal charges have ever been issued.
Image Source: AP/REX/Shutterstock
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Staffers Mourn Zoo Animals Who Died In 2009
December 31, 2009 – ROBERT SIEGEL, host:
From NPR News, this is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. I’m Robert Siegel.
This is our week of looking back at deaths over the past year. We tend to think of zoos as places where animals live, but they are also places where animals die. And we have this tribute from the Smithsonian’s National Zoo in Washington, D.C.
Mr. ED SMITH(ph) ( Zoo Keeper, Smithsonian’s National Zoo ): Each of the three (unintelligible) were found dead in the morning, resting on the bottom of the pool. We’re talking about fish seven or eight feet long.
Ms. MINDY BABITZ ( Zoo Keeper, Smithsonian’s National Zoo ): Joe Gibbon(ph) was euthanized just a few weeks ago.
Mr. SMITH: Paul (unintelligible) was a wonderful shrew. And he was active right up until his last day.
Ms. REBECCA STICHT(ph) ( Zoo Keeper, Smithsonian’s National Zoo ): Merlin was a very special sloth bear. At the age of 27, we considered him to be the equivalent of a person that’s in their 90s. Even still, I mean, I don’t think any of us were prepared for it.
Mr. DON MOORE (Associate Director, Animal Care, Smithsonian’s National Zoo ): The collection is aging all the time because that’s what living collections do. Every animal is going to die someday.
I’m Don Moore. I’m the associate director for animal care here at Smithsonian’s National Zoo . Keepers are very, very compassionate. I mean, it’s really hard to lose one of your social group, if you will. And the animals are part of their social group.
Mr. MOORE: Don Moore, there are great cats
Unidentified Woman: (unintelligible)
Mr. MOORE: So, we’re in lion -tiger holding area. We’re going to go see the Lusaka(ph) our older lioness. Well, Lusaka is 18 years old and is being treated for cancer.
Ms. STICHT: My name is Rebecca Sticht and I’m an animal keeper for great cats and bears.
(Soundbite of lion roaring)
Ms. STICHT: Lusaka is particularly spunky and she doesn’t get along with the other lions that we have here. She is up here in this area of the building because we’ve kind of become her pride. Right now, we have her on a low dose oral chemotherapy.
Ms. STICHT: From what we can see so far, she’s doing good under treatment.
Mr. MOORE: She could, you know, pass away tomorrow but she could also pass away in three years.
Ms. STICHT: We don’t think of them as pets, but we do fall in love with them.
Mr. MOORE: It’s hard to talk about. One of the things about working for a long time with animals is you tend to outlive just about everything you work with. With all the years I’ve been here, there is a ghost in just about every enclosure.
Mr. DAVID KESSLER (Biologist, Smithsonian’s National Zoo ): I’m David Kessler. I’m the biologist at the small mammal house. This year we had about – we had about 10 deaths of small mammals.
(Soundbite of whistle)
Mr. KESSLER: We lost a lesser tree shrew, a 15-year-old three-banded armadillo named Shelly(ph), Mellida(ph) white nosed coati, three elephants shrews, golden lion tamarin by the name of Loraja(ph) in April. Degu(ph) two naked mole rats, a Damaraland mole rat, and Sparky(ph) our cavy died of liver disease in February of this past year.
I know in the past when a major animal has died, the zoo has brought in grief counselors to help the keepers. And there is a feeling amongst those of us in small mammals that we grief just as much.
Ms. LISA STEVENS (Curator of Primates and Giant Pandas, Smithsonian’s National Zoo ): We’re standing behind our, one of our gorilla enclosures with our gorilla family.
(Soundbite of laughter)
Ms. STEVENS: My name is Lisa Stevens, curator of primates and giant pandas. Hocho(ph) is getting his evening meal.
I have been coming into this building now for 29 years. And when I walk through this building there are quiet moments when I recall the other individuals who have lived here. I think about Kuuya(ph), Kwame(ph), Kojo(ph) are his sons. And sometimes when I look in Kojo’s face or Kwame’s face, I can kind of see shades of Kuuya. Let me see. You’re waiting very patiently for your food today. We really don’t memorialize animals here. They live in our memories.
Mr. MOORE: I’ve been around death lot more than a lot of other people have.
Ms. STEVENS: It’s just part of it. In the end, it’s part of the whole dynamic process of caring for a zoo collection. And it’s the part that I wish I could minimize.
Mr. MOORE: For a lot of people who get along with animals maybe better than they get along with people, animal deaths might be harder than even a human death.
Ms. STEVENS: I don’t really see a whole lot of difference. Perhaps the only difference I see is that when we think about our human relationships, I think about bad times as well as good times. But when I think about the animals, there’s almost never a bad time.
(Soundbite of noise)
Ms. STEVENS: There goes Kwame, letting us know we’re on his turf here.
Ms. STEVENS: In the end, it just seems as though there’s this positive pure loss of a relationship that’s not based on as much of the kinds of issues that we bring to our human relationships.
Mr. KESSLER: It’s never easy. It doesn’t matter how the animal dies. It doesn’t matter how old it is or how young it is. It’s never easy. You get used to it but you don’t get used to it. And the minute you get completely hard into it, that’s when it’s time to leave the zoo world.
SIEGEL: That story was produced by Emily Botein. Thanks to Mindy Babitz, David Kessler, Don Moore, Ed Smith, Rebecca Sticht and Linda Stevens for sharing their animal memories. Our series on obits was produced by Emily Botein and edited by Deborah George.
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Dogfooding the new "Oxygene 5" Compiler
Here at RemObjects, we’ve always been great fans of so-called “dogfooding” – the act of using your own products early on in the beta cycle. As you know, we create developer products, and nothing helps us drive and test those more than actually using the products ourselves actively. For example, creating “Bugs”, the Mac (and later iOS) version of the client for our internal bug tracking system (which I plan to write more about soon, as well) is what largely drove the development of Data Abstract for Xcode from “early alpha” up to way past its initial release.
As I’ve talked about in the past few blog posts, we’re gearing up towards a major new release of our compiler, with the upcoming Prism XE2 release (Soon™) and Project “Cooper” (later this fall). Both of these product releases mark the availability of a brand new compiler, the “Oxygene 5” compiler.
Oxygene 5 is not just an incremental update to the old compiler code base (not that there is anything wrong with that), but for various reasons, we actually went and rewrote the entire thing from scratch. Literally, there’s not a single line of code in the core compiler that’s shared with version 4.0 and earlier. This has been a project that’s been over a year in the making, and over the past couple of weeks, we made some important steps in terms of getting ready to really dogfood the new compiler ourselves, all across the company.
#1: We’ve updated all our build machines to use the new compiler. Being a distributed development team, we rely heavily on our automated build system (another topic I will write more about soon), so putting the new compiler on there is a big step. But we did, and indeed it showed us a few more bugs here and there, and we fixed those, but all in all, everything worked fine. So all our Oxygene-based products were now being build with the new compiler. That includes most parts of Oxygene itself (including the core compiler, which we migrated from C# to Pascal in the rewrite), Hydra, Data Abstract for .NET, Relativity Server, and a range of other smaller tools.
#2: So our new products were being build with Oxygene 5 now (and reasonably passed our automated testing), but did they work, too? Only one way to find out, so the next step was to update our build systems with a version of Oxygene 5 that was created on the new build system. This is called a “generation 2” compiler (generation 0 being the old, trusted 4.0 compiler, and generation 1 the new compiler, built using the old, trusted 4.0. generation 2 is the new compiler, built with (a few hours or minutes older version of) the same, new compiler).
So at this stage, our build system was relying on the generation 1 compiler having been stable enough to build a generation 2 compiler that in turn was stable enough to build all our products (including, of course, itself). If that works (and it did), you know you have something fairly solid.
Since then, we never had to go back to gen0 or gen1 on our build system. So as we improve the compiler, fix more bugs and add more features, we regularly update our build system to newer versions of the compiler, but all of these are post-gen2.
#3: But why stop there? Our build infrastructure is a sophisticated distributed system that makes a lot of use of Data Abstract, including DA LINQ (and LINQ is one of the trickiest parts of the compiler, from what Carlo tells me ;)). So our next step was to update all the servers that make up our build system and replace them with versions that (a) have been built using the latest compiler and (b) use the latest build of Data Abstract for .NET, in turn generated on our build system, with that latest compiler.
So by now our build system is completely driven by tools created with gen2+ versions of the Oxygene 5 compiler. And everything is running fine across our various build servers (which include services running under Windows, Linux and Mac OS X) – so that’s pretty good coverage.
Of course these exercises did not all go completely without a hitch. For example, we ran into some nasty-to-debug issues where our servers would run fine on Windows, but fail badly on Mono. Turns out Mono did not allow for some corner case (but within spec) IL constructs that the new compiler generated. We fixed the compiler to generate “more conventional” code – and logged bugs with the Mono guys, as well.
#4: So what else can we try to break? Our main website [remobjects.com](http://remobjects.com] is written completely in ASP.NET with Oxygene and Data Abstract. We run two copies of that site, one that is live and one that acts as a staging platform to test new things (but most of the time is identical to the live site, short of some minor differences, such as showing debug information or non-live versions of texts from the database). The staging version is now running with a gen2+ Oxygene 5 compiler and using the latest Data Abstract, as well – and all is functioning. Switching the production site over would be a technicality, and something we’ll probably do any day now.
#5: And last but not least, all of our internal developers that develop in Oxygene (even those not involved with the Oxygene product itself, such as our Data Abstract for .NET team, or people like me working on internal tools) are now using daily Oxygene 5 builds for their day-to-day work.
So. It goes without saying that even the scenarios I described above don’t provide complete coverage, and of course we still heavily rely on thousands of automated tests, as well as feedback from beta testers on their real-life projects. But I think we’re in pretty good shape with the new compiler – and I’m looking forward to ship it to you guys soon.
Stay Tuned for More
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Sneak Peek: Spell Checking support in Prism XE2's Oxygene 5 Compiler
In a previous blog post we already took a first look at “Fix-It” support and some related editor enhancements centering around error reporting that are coming to Prism XE2 and Project Cooper later
Use of Data Abstract's Memory Tables without a Database
This post was prompted by my reference to TDAMemDataTables in my recent podcast about our wiki. First, a bit of background: ever since I first started developing, I’ve always been a bit
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“Heart of Fashion” Founder Shows #PinkHairDoesCare
By Michael & Matthew on October 5, 2016 at 8:37 PM
Photo: Fulton Davenport / PWL Studio
Bob Cavnar, Vivian Wise, Bill Wise
Abigail Evans
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Butterfly Girl, available on Amazon.com
Beth Muecke, Diane Caplan
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Fady Armanious
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Matt Burrus, Michael Pearce
Juliana Ocampo, Aubrie Layne, Kalyn Oden
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Daniel Ortiz, Miya Shay
Matt Burrus, Vivian Wise, Michael Pearce at the Stages Repertory Theatre Gala
Matt Burrus, Vivian Wise, Michael Pearce
"Heart of Fashion" Founder Shows #PinkHairDoesCare
Abigail Evans was 20 years old when she passed away after living a life fuller than most, but one that was fraught with painful surgeries that still never took her spirit. She was the focus of a documentary called “Butterfly Girl,” which is available for purchase on Amazon.com. She was also one of the main focuses of Heart of Fashion founder Vivian Wise‘s recent press conference. Vivian had big news to share with the friends, family and members of the media who attended, but it was Abigail and others like her who Vivian really wanted to highlight.
Vivian is never one to make it all about herself, so a majority of her press conference was focused on one of the charities she felt was perhaps lost in the shuffle last year. Butterflys and Bandages helps raise funds for Epidermolysis Bullosa (EB) Family Support. Its purpose is to make a difference in the lives of those suffering from EB and provide funds to support EB families in need of assistance. EB is a condition where children are born with skin so thin that it is like a butterfly’s wing; hence the name. Vivian recounted the story of Abigail, the daughter of her good friend, whose skin was rubbed off when the nurses tried to wipe her off after she was born. Abigail’s father made the above-mentioned documentary to help with awareness and premiered it at SXSW. Abigail’s tremendous zest for life came through in the portion of the movie shown at the event, while it still also served as a reminder that Abigail was still a normal teenager when the movie was shot.
Vivian launched Heart of Fashion last year to great acclaim, with the goal of bringing world-class fashion designers to the Bayou City–and helping those in need. When she holds a press conference, she means business. Speaking in front of a packed house (literally at her house), she spoke about big changes coming for Heart of Fashion.
Recently, Vivian has been undergoing treatment after being diagnosed with a rare skin disorder called Sweet’s Syndrome, “which isn’t very sweet,” she quipped. It’s characterized by sudden onset of fever, elevated white blood cell count, and painful skin lesions that appear mostly on your head, arms, neck and trunk. Vivian shared some of the pictures of the lesions, as she wants to educate people about this little-known disease. Vivian noted that not everyone was kind during her treatment, as someone started the hashtag on social media of #LittleMissPinkPiggy after she experienced one of the side effects of the steroids she was taking. As if that wasn’t enough, she was also diagnosed with pyoderma gangrenosum (PG), which is an inflammatory skin disorder that is characterized by small red bumps or blisters that eventually erode to form swollen open sores. In 50 percent of the cases, PG occurs as a secondary condition to another disorder, such as in Vivian’s case.
Never one to wallow in self pity, Vivian commented that she still counts herself as fortunate because she has insurance, access to the best healthcare in the world at the Texas Medical Center, and a nice “cage” in which to be stuck, referring to her gorgeous home.
Unexpectedly shy in the spotlight for someone with striking pink hair, Vivian proclaimed to those in attendance at the press conference, “Most companies want to announce growth. I want to announce I’m getting small.” Among the friends and family cheering her on were Dr. Carolyn Farb, Beth Muecke, Fady Armanious, Bob Cavnar, Bubba McNeely, Miya Shay, Mark Sullivan, Clifford Pugh, Bill Wise, Mary Elizabeth Sand, Diane Caplan, Jeff Gremillion, Jon Halbur and Dan O’Brien, Jerod Dame, Sylvia Forsythe, Shelley Taylor Ludwick, Lenny Matuszewski, Tamara and Dr. James Bonar, Maya and Hank Fasthoff, Aubrie Layne and Juliana Ocampo.
Last year’s activities for Heart of Fashion included a three-night fashion show that brought in international designers to Million Air, as well as a May Mystery Show that had actors from Catastrophic Theatre stage a jewelry “heist” among the guests who were treated to a Carolina Herrera and de Boulle Diamond and Jewelry fashion show.
From the one-night May show, she said that she earned more money than the three-night flagship fashion show event on a per night basis. This is why she is becoming more focused.
Her previously scheduled three nights of fashion in November 2016 have been crossed off the calendar. Her next show will be May 11, 2017 (her birthday) and promises to be just as exciting, if not more, than the May Mystery Show earlier this year.
Perhaps displaying why “Heart of Fashion” is aptly named, Vivian also announced that she would fulfill her commitment to the three charities that were to be the beneficiaries of this fall’s show. At the press conference, she presented three $40,000 checks to The Birthday Party Project, Star of Hope Mission, and the Recipe for Success Foundation. These three checks were out of her personal bank account, not from Heart of Fashion or her Foundation. She believes so strongly in supporting them and in keeping her word that she wanted it to be personal because each of these causes is personal to those who receive help from them. She also presented a separate $40,000 to the Lupus Foundation from the Texas Legacy Foundation, which were the proceeds from the May Mystery Show 2016.
You may find out more about The Birthday Party Project at: http://www.thebirthdaypartyproject.org/
You may find out more about the Star of Hope Mission at: http://www.sohmission.org/
You may find out more about the Recipe for Success Foundation at: http://www.recipe4success.org/
You may find our more information about Butterflys and Bandages at: http://www.butterflysandbandages.org/
You may learn more about Sweet’s Syndrome at: http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/sweets-syndrome/home/ovc-20165794
You may learn more about pyoderma gangrenosum at: http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/pyoderma-gangrenosum/home/ovc-20164989
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Look to the End of the Rainbow
Published March 17, 2016 Collections Closed
Tags: Dallas Museum of Art, DMA, gold, St. Patrick's Day
According to legend, every Leprechaun has a pot of gold, secreted deep in the Irish countryside. In order to keep their treasure safe, the Irish fairies gave the Leprechauns magic to use in case of capture. The fairy magic allowed them to grant three wishes or to vanish into thin air!
Based on these tales, it seems that Dallas has a Leprechaun of its own. The DMA is filled with an abundance of gold representing numerous lands over many years, something very magical indeed. All of the gold is carefully protected by fairies . . . ahemm . . . I mean gallery attendants. You can look, but don’t touch! That would make our mischievous Leprechauns . . . I mean curators . . . very upset.
If you happen to spot a rainbow this afternoon, don’t be surprised if it leads you right here, to Dallas’s biggest pot of gold!
Images: Gerd Rothmann, neckalace, n.d., Dallas Museum of Art, gift of Edward W. and Deedie Potter Rose, formerly Inge Asenbaum collection, gallery Am Graben in Vienna, © Gerd Rothmann, 2014.33.284; Bruno Martinazzi, bracelet, 1969, gold and silver, Dallas Museum of Art, gift of Edward W. and Deedie Potter Rose, formerly Inge Asenbaum collection, gallery Am Graben in Vienna, © Bruno Martinazzi, 2014.33.353; Graduated shell dish, Fitz & Floyd, Chunichi Toki Company, 1983, porcelain and gilding, Dallas Museum of Art, gift of Robert C. Floyd, 1998.129.1; Velma Davis Dozier, pin, 1969, cast gold with diamonds, Dallas Museum of Art, gift of Otis and Velma Dozier, © Denni Davis Washburn, William Robert Miegel Jr, and Elizabeth Marie Miegel, 1979.25; Jaguar effigy, A.D. 800-1200, gold, Dallas Museum of Art, The Nora and John Wise Collection, gift of Mr. and Mrs. Jake L. Hamon, the Eugene McDermott Family, Mr. and Mrs. Algur H. Meadows and the Meadows Foundation, Incorporated, and Mr. and Mrs. John D. Murchison, 1976.W.261; Pendant with two figures, A.D. 700-1520, gold-copper alloy (tumbaga), Dallas Museum of Art, The Nora and John Wise Collection, gift of Mr. and Mrs. Jake L. Hamon, the Eugene McDermott Family, Mr. and Mrs. Algur H. Meadows and the Meadows Foundation, Incorporated, and Mr. and Mrs. John D. Murchison, 1976.W.245; Cow’s head stirrup cup. n.d., glazed earthenware and paint, Dallas Museum of Art, the Patsy Lacy Griffith Collection, bequest of Patsy Lacy Griffith, 2001.134; Single snake armlet, 1st century A.D., gold, Dallas Museum of Art, Museum League Purchase Funds, The Eugene and Margaret McDermott Art Fund, Inc., and Cecil H. and Ida M. Green in honor of Virginia Lucas Nick, 1991.75.92.1; Scissors, 20th century, brass, Dallas Museum of Art, gift of Elizabeth Weaver, 1993.68.97; Ring, Claus Bury, 1971, gold and acrylic, Dallas Museum of Art, gift of Edward W. and Deedie Potter Rose, formerly Inge Asenbaum collection, gallery Am Graben in Vienna © Claus Bury, 2014.33.45
Julie Henley is the Communications and Marketing Coordinator at the DMA.
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Boys’ hockey players reflect on the end of their season
Em Paquette
Nate Clark, senior captain, gives his final pregame speech.
Mia Seidel
Max Byzewski, Staff Writer
The BSM boys were coming off an undefeated conference record and a 4-0 win against St. Louis Park the previous week. However, when the first game of sections rolled around the results would not be as favorable.
The red knights took an early lead when Jett Johnson scored a goal early. The momentum looked to be in BSM’s favor, but as the period progressed they started to play more and more flat, “I think we were more nervous than the game a week before because our season was on the line,” junior forward Ian Bahr said.
About halfway through the second period, the Orioles went on the power play and scored to even the tally 1-1, continuing to change the tide in the favor of SLP. This ended the defense’s streak of 7 shutout periods and clearly flustered the players. “We definitely did not play as well as we could have…we should’ve focused more on the game than the result,” Bahr said.
The third period rolled around and both teams were tightly competing, vying for the go-ahead goal. The pace seemed to increase as the game transpired, and emotions were running high, “We talked about not getting retaliation penalties because that could potentially lose the game for us,” Bahr said.
This was clearly hard for the cross-town rivals to keep up as about halfway through the final period, a scuffle between two players broke out resulting in 2 major penalties given out and the St. Louis Park player to be ejected.
The period proceeded at a fast pace, both teams playing their heart out for their seasons were on the line. The clock kept ticking and ticking and both teams attack becoming stronger and stronger while neither team could find the back of the net. This trend ended with 23.9 seconds to play when SLP scored and ended the Red Knights season.
The loss was harder to take than most, especially considering the team that had just ended their season was the same team they had beaten 4-0 the week before. However, the Red Knights look to bounce back from the loss sections to SLP for the second year in a row next year, for they return to starters and 10 varsity letter winner. The future looks bright for the Red Knights hockey program.
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'Hotel Transylvania' will delight young and old
This image released by Sony Pictures shows Dracula, voiced by Adam Sandler, in a scene from “Hotel Transylvania.” (AP Photo/Sony Pictures Animation)
By Jeff Simon|Published Fri, Sep 28, 2012
Just how scared could anyone be of Adam Sandler playing Dracula? Well, just to make sure that he's still got a certain amount of monster cred in the opening minutes of the newest digital animated merriment "Hotel Transylvania," you see what happens when Sandler/Drac loses his cool.
The screen suddenly turns blood and fire red and Dracula's angry, fang-toothed face triples in size and the music is a loud, scary dissonance.
There were genuine screams and squeals among the kiddies at the film's Saturday morning screening. Parents should, of course, be forewarned.
Not to worry. The next time it happens, it's all for those wonderful little giggles you hear at such movies. By then, the audience knows what a neurotic, overprotective father Dracula is and how dedicated he's become to protecting the lives and feelings of the world's monsters from the depredations of those horrific creatures, the humans.
That's the sturdy basic joke of "Hotel Transylvania." Our monsterphile Drac not only builds a five-stake resort for all his monster friends to visit and live with merry horror far away from human influence, but he fills his own daughter Mavis with terrors of the world "out there" where the humans prowl around looking for monsters to treat abominably.
Human blood, says the vampire, is so fatty. You never know where it's been.
It is, then, needless to say a bit of a problem when Mavis unknowingly falls in love with a human trying to pass for a monster.
Daddy Drac talks a good game of trusting his young daughter. "You're old enough to drive a hearse," he says with Sandler's voice doing the world's most unconvincing Bela Lugosi imitation, "you're old enough to make your own choices." But Daddy Drac is about as overprotective as they come.
It's all a good deal of fun, really. I must confess the "Romeo/Juliet," monster/human story wasn't exactly my favorite thing to be protracted as long as it is here. But the whole movie is Dracula's big birthday party for Mavis, to which all their monster friends - and I do mean all - have been invited.
David Spade is the voice of the Invisible Man. Frankenstein is there, with a splendidly detachable head.
You haven't lived until you've seen monster bingo. Or a werewolf's solution to the sudden problem of a sheep blocking the road. (The werewolf's voice is that of a no-doubt-delighted Steve Buscemi.)
The kids seemed to love it, especially the gas-passing gags and the puddles of piddle that suddenly appear and cause interesting social solutions.
If adults familiar with Conan O'Brien's show find a lot of the jokes delightfully reminiscent of things that might have been said or thought up by Triumph the Insult Comic Dog, it's all for good cause. The movie was co-written by Robert Smigel, the joyously antisocial writer and voice of Triumph, a dog always looking for humans to unload on.
It is, no doubt, the presence of Sandler and Smigel that is responsible for some of the most identifiable comic voices of our time (Spade, Fran Drescher, Jon Lovitz) having roles in this thing along with the less-identifiable Selena Gomez (as Mavis), Molly Shannon and CeeLo Green. And too, how could those guys resist some good gags at the expense of the vampires vs. werewolf fantasies of "Twilight" world? They don't.
It's entertaining for what it is but in truth probably won't prove to be nearly as interesting to movie fans as Tim Burton's upcoming "Frankenweenie."
With the voices of: Adam Sandler, David Spade, Selena Gomez, Kevin James
Director: Genndy Taratoksky
Rating: PG for a couple of genuine scares for the kiddies and rude humor.
The Lowdown: Dracula builds a five-stake resort for his monster friends to disport themselves unbothered on vacation, but his daughter falls in love with a somewhat dopey human.
email: jsimon@buffnews.com
Jeff Simon – A semi-retired critic and columnist for The Buffalo News. Before that, he spent a couple decades as The News' arts and books editor.
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New Aero Glide delivers alternative to opening hinged skylights for quick rooftop access
Architects looking for an alternative to traditional hinged opening skylights can now benefit from roof-top access or effective ventilation in seconds, following the launch of a brand new sliding skylight design from industry pioneer Sunsquare.
As the latest addition to the British manufacturer’s award-winning Aero range, the Aero Glide rooflight features a sliding pane that is available in two configurations: either over a fixed pane of glazing (allowing the maximum amount of natural light to enter), or over a cantilever frame. It is engineered to allow glass to move quickly and quietly, giving users swift access to rooftop spaces as well as instant access to fresh air.
Thanks to its innovative sliding design, the Aero Glide boasts market-leading opening and closing times as fast as ten seconds per metre – for ultimate convenience when accessing outdoor areas. Operated electronically through a custom-built control panel, the Aero Glide features concealed compact motor gears that are hidden within its base frame, keeping noise to a minimum for a fast, smooth and discreet opening.
Mark Lambert, Sales Director at Sunsquare, says,
“The feedback we’ve received from architects in recent years is that when it comes to specifying opening skylights, there are very limited options to choose from other than conventional hinged designs. We’ve launched the Aero Glide to change that – not only to give specifiers something different, but also to create a skylight that really delivers the wow-factor and gives customers access to rooftop areas or much-needed ventilation, faster.”
“One of the areas we’ve focused on during the Aero Glide’s 12-month development is allowing the sliding element of the skylight to work on either a vertical or horizontal axis. This means it can open across its width or across its length. Not only does this give architects more options when planning building projects, but the result is an impressive spectacle for clients – allowing them to bring light into their homes in a dramatic way.”
“For end users we realise that convenience is key, which is why we’ve included two fully synchronised low-voltage motors to allow access to the rooflight as quickly and as safely as possible. It’s also controlled by a press-and-hold two button switch, making operation a breeze.”
As part of Sunsquare’s commitment to complete weather proofing, the Aero Glide is designed to incorporate a specially adapted frame, boasting the most thermally efficient profile on the market. Containing three thermal breaks to conductivity, the Aero Glide uses polyamide insulating sections to create an effective barrier between internal and external temperatures. This guards against the process of cold bridging, which can cause unwanted condensation and potential structural damage if left untreated. It also features argon-filled, soft-coat low emissivity glass to help reflect internal heat and add yet another layer of insulation. The result is outstanding thermal efficiency, reduced bills and lower carbon emissions.
As with all Sunsquare rooflights, the Aero Glide comes complete with shatter-proof laminated glass as standard. The safest, most reliable glass on the market, it helps keep users safe in the event of an accident by catching and holding any broken glass crystals within the laminate. It also provides effective protection from the sun’s harmful UV rays, whilst still allowing sunlight to light up darker areas of the home.
Lambert adds,
“As well as offering impressive aesthetics, the Aero Glide provides the same outstanding thermal performance of our existing Aero range – honed and perfected through our 15 years in the industry. We also recognise that client safety is of paramount concern, which is why we use we choose to fit laminated glass as standard in our entire range – giving specifiers and end users ultimate peace of mind.”
For more information about the new Sunsquare Aero Glide skylight, or any of the products in the company’s portfolio of market-leading flat-roof skylights, please visit: www.sunsquare.co.uk or call 01284 848792.
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Difference between revisions of "Talk:Legendary Pokémon"
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:I agree. Any new-ish official artwork with a substantial group of Legendaries would clearly be better than a shot of a single Legendary from more than a decade and a half ago. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:34, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
::Thank you for agreeing me. Now once more approval comes, the switch came be done.--[[User:Jacob9594|Jacob Kogan]] ([[User talk:Jacob9594|talk]]) 19:08, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
:::Don't say that you're going to wait for more approval only to make the change anyway. Have patience, a response is not going to come magically. I don't mind using an image that has all (or at least some of) the legendary Pokémon, so it's fine. But still, actually wait for more approval, don't just add it because one person approved it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F1912B">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F6B775">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#5599CA">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#90BDDC">ire</span>]] 05:52, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
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Archive #1
1 Separating Mythical and Legendary Pokémon
2 Mythical Pokémon = Events?
3 Deoxys
4 More?
5 Is Zygarde a Member of the Mortality Duo?(Therefore making it the Mortality Trio)
6 Pokemon Center Deoxys
7 Wait, What Happened To The Movie Trivia?
8 Separating Article
9 Using Deity/Deities derived terms when speaking generically
10 Legendary v. Mythical: A Solution for Everyone?
11 Changes to legendary definition
12 Tapu
13 Disputed legendaries section
14 Sub-legendaries
15 Legendary Disputes Part X
16 Necrozma
17 Shiny backgrounds in Pokémon Bank
18 Cosmog line
19 Type:Null, UB's, and Tapus Revisited
20 The Tapu, UB, Null and Silvally ARE Legendary. I have proof.
21 Anime evidence?
22 The Ultra Beasts
23 About Silvally
24 Ultra Beasts confirmed as Non-Legendaries?
25 Legendary Pokemon Regional Terms
26 Type: Null and Silvally
27 Type: Null, Silvally, and Tapu trivia
28 Replacing the Entei anime movie picture
Separating Mythical and Legendary Pokémon
The matter of separating the articles of Legendary and Mythical Pokémon is in discussion because of Generation VI's newly introduced disambiguation of the term Mythical Pokémon. I have started a short draft that anyone should feel free to expand. Meanwhile, in response to Bwburke94 (talk) 15:18, 5 May 2015 (UTC):
A better phrasing might be "a related group of Pokémon related to Legendary Pokémon", but I'm being conservative for the time being. I haven't found evidence supporting that Mythical Pokémon are indeed Legendary (as far as Japanese media are concerned), and the fact that recent text refers to all of them collectively as "Legendary and Mythical Pokémon" makes me think they aren't. Mythical Pokémon as an English term may be relatively recent, but 幻のポケモン has always been a thing -- it has been in use on and off since 1998 (potentially even earlier, in Mew ads from 1996). It started catching on (that is to say, being used more commonly) around 2007 or 2008. Prior to that, reference to Mythical Pokémon has been generally informal, with several other terms like 特別なポケモン (Tokubetsuna Pokémon, probably a parallel to Event Pokémon) seen in official media. Ever since Gen 5, it has been in use unambiguously. You can even find a formal definition of 幻のポケモン in Pokescrap's page.
As of today (arguably since Gen 5) the same holds for Mythical, as there is no reference of Mythical Pokémon being Legendary anywhere, as far as I know. Even cases like Deoxys, where 幻のポケモン was originally mistranslated as Legendary Pokémon, are now properly classified. The assumption that Mythical Pokémon are Legendary is natural, and the western community especially is accustomed to the convention for most of the franchise's life, with the proper term coined years after its Japanese counterpart (granted, the term Rare Pokémon was once being used in places like Pokémon Ranger and announcements), but I have to ask: what's the point of including Mythical Pokémon in the Legendary Pokémon page when they aren't officially referred to as Legendary Pokémon? Saving clicks? Is an encyclopedia's mission to pander to the community's fondness of obsolete terminology, or is it to be accurate and in-line with the series' current conventions and lore? Ash Pokemaster (talk) 17:41, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Bulbapedia's mission is not necessarily to be official, it's to be an informative English-language Pokémon encyclopedia, which happens to be a mission that involves official sources. Since we're just going in circles again, let me just point out that when the community searches for "Legendary Pokémon", they expect to find info on Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, et cetera in addition to those normally obtainable within their debut generation. Splitting the page would also have the effect of splitting Mew and Keldeo from their respective legendary "families", to the detriment of the wiki. In addition, my position since the start of English-language Gen V has been that mythicals are a subset of legendaries, and as I pointed out last time we talked about this, North American Super Smash Bros. for Wii U backs me up, while you have not cited an English-language source in your argument. Bwburke94 (talk) 06:50, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
I suppose that we principally disagree on whether Bulbapedia's coverage should be based strictly on canonical sources (which exclude contradicting English-language sources which commonly include mistranslations, although this may also be a matter of argument) or be more in-line with fans' expectations. I will admit I have no source that downright states "Mythical Pokémon are not a subset of Legendary Pokémon", but what's the point of the "Legendary and Mythical Pokémon" statement if the latter aren't a separate group? It would be a redundancy. Your NA Smash Bros. argument only augments my point, if only because the difference between the European and the NA version simply proves that there's an existing ambiguity that the more careful sources (ie. the ones that don't spell Onix as "Onyx") take under consideration. Besides, why should it be taken under consideration over the European translation? What makes it inherently more valid?
I will agree that this is most likely going to go in circles. It would be better to let other people weigh in. --Ash Pokemaster (talk) 07:37, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
People expecting to find Mythical Pokémon when coming to this page can be solved with a hatnote and in-article prose. However, we should be using official definitions whereever possible. --SnorlaxMonster 09:38, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
SnorlaxMonster and Ash Pokemaster, I get what you're implying, and I see your reasoning, but do you actually have a source that directly states mythicals are not legendaries? Bwburke94 (talk) 11:37, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
Yes, there is an official source that explicitly shows they're separate groups that don't overlap: Corocoro. In either October or November 2014 - can't remember which - Corocoro promised that every Legendary Pokémon would be available for capture in ORAS. Come the games' release, we saw that this didn't include Mythical Pokémon. EpicDeino (talk) 23:41, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Corocoro is a Japanese source, and the debate is over the English terminology. However, both the US and UK official ORAS sites made the same claim, albeit with different wording, stating that "between XYORAS, all Legendary Pokémon will be obtainable". Bwburke94 (talk) 07:57, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
No, the debate is not on the English terminology, but on the group to which it refers. They're still called Legendary and Mythical whether Bulbapedia says Mythical is a subset or a separate group. In fact, the page has actually called Mythical by the same name under both circumstances in the past. that isn't being debated right now. What is being debated is whether Mythical Pokémon, a group which exists in other languages as well and is NOT exclusive to the English language, is separate from Legendary. This has absolutely nothing to do with the name of the group when the group itself is the same in the other languages - the idea of things having different names in different languages applies to basically everything else in Pokémon as well, and doesn't prevent foreign language sources from being used as evidence when the subject itself remains identical. EpicDeino (talk) 03:41, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
The debate is on the group to which it refers in English, so this is indeed over English terminology. Bwburke94 (talk) 11:28, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, but... I don't understand what you mean? As I JUST explained, the group exists in every language. The group, which is consistent throughout every language, is referred to in English as Mythical, but still exists, albeit by various other names, in other languages - like everything else in the series, actually. I even provided a link to the French encyclopædia Pokémonis as proof of the group's existence in other languages. The name has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about. By your logic, no Japanese source could be used for anything that has a different name in English. To reiterate from my previous post: we aren't debating the name of the group. We're debating whether or not said group, which exists in every language, albeit with a different name because it is translated like everything else in the series, is separate from Legendary, another group which exists in every language, again with different names because it is translated like everything else in the series. Please, explain why having a different name would prevent a group that is otherwise completely consistent between languages from being considered the same thing when everything else in the series is in the same situation. EpicDeino (talk) 18:37, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Mythical Pokémon = Events?
I know for a fact that the only difference I have found from Legendary and Mythical Pokémon is that most Mythical Pokémon are usually event exclusive with even stats all over (most of the time) and that Legendary Pokémon are usually found towards the ends of games and commonly have higher stats than Mythical Pokémon (not counting Mega Diancie). BowserBrowser (talk) 10:29, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
It's actually even simpler than that. Legendaries are available in-game. Mythical are unavailable in-game. Nothing else you mentioned is related. It has nothing to do with high stats versus low, or being near the end of the game, or "usually" being event-exclusive (even Deoxys, formerly Mythical, has been listed as "other" in the Japanese promotional material and simply hasn't been referenced as either Legendary or Mythical in English promotions since ORAS made it available as far as I know - being event-only is not "usually" a trait shared, but always the case), or whether stats are balanced or specialized. There is a clear-cut distinction between them. (Also, just as a side note, the definition was already on the article before you said this, so I'm not really sure what your point was? XD) EpicDeino (talk) 23:41, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
Ah. BowserBrowser (talk) 21:52, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
To avoid edit warring, I'm not changing the page right now (I already had changed Deoxys to say it isn't Mythical and that was reverted, so I'm pretty sure doing so again wouldn't be allowed), but I just wanted to explain the argument against Deoxys being Mythical. In the Pokémon Scrap event, where you had to collect those clippings to earn Shaymin, Keldeo and Victini, the page on the official site explicitly stated something along the lines of "Shaymin, Keldeo and Victini, like other Mythical Pokémon, cannot be normally obtained in Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire." This is an official statement that Mythical does always mean event-only, so Deoxys isn't an exception - it's just not Mythical any more. It was before, but it has officially lost the status. EpicDeino (talk) 23:41, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
I hadn't noticed this ambiguity until now. You're quite right, it wasn't referred to as a Mythical Pokémon during the ORAS promotion. Granted, it isn't referred to as a Legendary either -- just "Pokémon Deoxys". I think it ought to be classified as a Mythical for the time being, if only because otherwise we might end up revisioning multiple Pokémon way too often (for all we know special "Episodes" that feature Mythical Pokémon might become a regular thing). However, a footnote for its special status is definitely needed, and we have to revisit its situation by the time the ORAS era is over and a new Deoxys event (or game inclusion) makes appearance.
Which Pokescrap page are you referring to, by the way? The definition used in the (now archived) page simply says that Mythical Pokémon aren't available during normal play of the games. It would be interesting if it was indeed explicitly mentioned somewhere that "no Mythical Pokémon are available in ORAS" as far as Deoxys's status is concerned. --Ash Pokemaster (talk) 06:25, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
Ah, sorry; I was actually wrong (I couldn't find the page, so I was going from memory) - it doesn't explicitly state "in ORAS." Still, the promotion was for ORAS, and Deoxys has not been called Mythical since, so it should still be valid evidence, right?
Also, I'm not sure it'd be as hard as you say to fix it. I mean, if the official classification changes, we should fix it here, right? We add hundreds of pages whenever a new game comes out, so changing one Pokémon's classification wouldn't be unfeasible under the same circumstances (and even if it's mentioned in a lot of places, if we miss a page when altering it, anyone who comes across it can fix it - this isn't a one-person project or anything!). That said, we don't know what Deoxys IS considered right now, so I would be okay with holding off on changing it until we do. We should just definitely fix it as soon as we do know. XD EpicDeino (talk) 19:35, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
It seems you've assumed that Deoxys is no longer even a "Legendary", in addition to not being Mythical either. It seems to me pretty intuitive that Deoxys must be Legendary or Mythical (and definitely not neither), but in the meantime, Deoxys's inclusion under the Legendary Pokemon section of the official ORAS site should be proof enough that it is at least Legendary. Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:16, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
"Intuitive" is not the same as "fact," and, in fact, we even have a word. "counterintuitive," to illustrate the possibility of that difference. Assuming based on logic that Deoxys is Legendary is speculation, which, as far as I'm aware, isn't allowed here. This discussion shows that the Japanese site explicitly lists Deoxys as "other" and refers to it as neither Legendary nor Mythical. The "Legendary" Pokémon list is already wrong, with this page pointing out that all Legendary Pokémon can be obtained in-game, on the same site that has a page in the Legendary Pokémon section on the Mythical Pokémon Keldeo and Shaymin. I would personally say that what they actually say about it should take precedence over where they put it on the site. That said, I'm happy to discuss further, since there is conflicting information, as you have pointed out, and a lot of it is up in the air. (I wonder if Deoxys is going to become the new Phione in regards to debate. XD) EpicDeino (talk) 04:24, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
I would say, though, that if it flies so in the face of logic, you need pretty strong evidence to say something like Deoxys is neither Legendary nor Mythical (preferably more than just one little thing). As it happens, though, you have perhaps made a bad assumption about SnorlaxMonster's comment. While it is true that the Japanese ORAS site has a section for "Legendardy Pokemon" (伝説のポケモン), the fact that Deoxys is located under "Other" (その他) very much does not mean that Deoxys is neither Legendary nor Mythical, not when Mythical (幻の) is mentioned nowhere. I believe SnorlaxMonster in fact meant to say that since it's not listed under Legendary, they must consider Deoxys Mythical. In fact, if you look at that page now, you will see that Hoopa is also listed with Deoxys under "Other", so either they consider both of them Mythical or, as you assume, neither Mythical nor Legendary...despite the fact that Hoopa fits the supposed definition of Mythical to a tee. Tiddlywinks (talk) 06:12, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
I might be able to help with what I meant by my own comment. I wasn't trying to say that because Deoxys is intentionally not listed as a Legendary Pokémon that it is necessarily a Mythical Pokémon; I was simply saying that it heavily indicated that Deoxys is not a Legendary Pokémon. To my knowledge, no official material has referred to Deoxys as Mythical since the release of ORAS, but we also do not have any evidence that it has had its Mythical status revoked, so we should continue to list it as such. I didn't notice Hoopa was listed in the "Other" section too, but that certainly is interesting; however, the section is merely "Other", so it simply means that they do not fit into the other sections on the page, not that they are both Mythical or both not Mythical. --SnorlaxMonster 06:24, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
This survey strongly implies Deoxys is not a Mythical Pokémon. The question says "Which of these are your favorite Mythical Pokémon? (Choose your top 3.)", and includes every Mythical Pokémon, but not Phione or Deoxys.--SnorlaxMonster 11:20, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
Just to state it plainly, it is still possible Deoxys is Legendary even though it does not appear anywhere else in the survey either, since there are other reliably "Legendary" Pokemon also missing (Mewtwo, Heatran, Kyurem, and Zygarde). Tiddlywinks (talk) 12:49, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
Oh, I completely did misunderstand that comment. I'm sorry. >.< I genuinely thought it said Deoxys was neither Mythical nor Legendary; it wasn't so much an assumption as completely misreading. XD That said, shouldn't that site saying it's not Legendary (even if it doesn't mention being Mythical) and the aforementioned PokéScrap site saying it's not Mythical count as proof, even if they were separate? The PokéScrap site IS proof that the Mythical status was revoked, because it specifically says ALL Mythical Pokémon are unavailable, and Deoxys was available. EpicDeino (talk) 20:42, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
It's not proof Deoxys is neither. For my money, the Pokemon Company(/whatever) just doesn't really have its mind made up or doesn't want to make up/make known its mind on Deoxys's status, and/or there may also be some disconnect between English and Japanese branches or something. They need to paint a consistent and/or unambiguous picture, and until they do, IMO we need to avoid drawing conclusions from little, inconclusive hints. (And in the meantime, we should either consider Deoxys to provisionally have its previous status or to at least have the status that it logically deserves.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:07, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
Just checked the survey you cited. It asked to pick your favorite Mythical Pokémon, and ALL Mythical Pokémon were listed. However, the Legendary Pokémon section was specifically for grouped Legendary Pokémon - it specifically says "pick your favorite pair" and "pick your favorite grouping." It never says that's every Legendary, and, in fact, it clearly says it's only counting ones that are pairs or groups. As such, the survey is reliable (although it doesn't prove Deoxys isn't Legendary - just that it's not Mythical). In contrast, it did say it was listing every Mythical Pokémon, so Deoxys (and, unrelatedly, Phione) are not counted. Can you provide any proof that it IS Mythical? Because right now, that's what we're calling it, yet even your own argument points only towards it either being Legendary if it is either, and its placement in "other" indicates that it's not Legendary. Please stop saying it deserves the status and therefore speculatively claiming it is "logically" Mythical. Speculation isn't permitted in the mainspace as far as I am aware.
I'm also aware it being "other" and not Legendary and it being available and not Mythical aren't conclusive individually. That's why I gave them both. Together, they DO prove that it is neither, because each proves that it can't be one of the two.
Also, they do seem to have made up their minds. I'm pretty sure you're just looking for an excuse to call it Mythical when it clearly isn't any more. EpicDeino (talk) 22:25, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
I never said that logically it is Mythical. I tried to say that it is not really logical that Deoxys would be classified as neither Legendary nor Mythical. (And beyond that, I don't really care which way Deoxys is classified, but there should be good proof behind whatever decision gets made.)
And that's the difference between you and I. You don't want to assume anything like that, and I think it is the height of folly to presume Deoxys wouldn't be counted either Legendary or Mythical. So when you see one place that implies Deoxys isn't Mythical and one that implies Deoxys isn't Legendary, you say, then it must be neither. Meanwhile, I see the same thing and just see contradicting implications and think everyone's not on the same page who should be (if they even know which page they want to be on, that is). And since all we have are implications, neither of us actually has anything approaching proof that Deoxys is X or Y or none of the above. For both of us, it makes sense, and there's nothing starkly clear enough to decide for us who is right.
That's why I said we need a clear statement from an official source. Until then, all our arguing about our interpretations of measly hints will get us precisely nowhere. Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:21, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Addendum: we've also forgotten the official ORAS English site I mentioned above. On the one hand, we have the official Japanese site that has a section for "Legendaries" but elects to include Deoxys under "Other" (implying Deoxys is not "Legendary"), while on the other, we have the official English site where Deoxys is included in the Legendary Pokemon section. If that's not a strong indication that someones somewhere are not on the same page, about one thing or another, I don't know what is. Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:31, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
The Japanese information is not contradictory. If we're explicitly told that it's not Legendary and then explicitly told that it's not Mythical, that doesn't mean "one of them must be wrong," which is speculation, but that, given what we have, it is not Legendary or Mythical.
The English site's categorization can't be taken into account because it is already wrong (as I explained, Keldeo and Shaymin prove that it's already not accurate considering other statements also on the English site), but that's the only one we can prove is wrong. There is, therefore, not hinting but confirmation from the only sources we can't prove are wrong, that Deoxys is neither, and only information from a source I have proven is wrong to indicate that it might be one of them.
Even so, since, clearly, it IS still debatable, I would honestly suggest doing it like Phione, because the situation is exactly the same, with official sources seemingly contradicting one another; we could list points like "it used to be Mythical and no Pokémon has been demoted before," "even if it is no longer event-only, it should transition to Legendary instead of being normal" and "the English site lists it as Legendary" and whatever else you can think of for pro-Legendary or Mythical status and "the Japanese site has stated in an Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire promotion that only event-only Pokémon are Mythical, a requirement which Deoxys no longer meets," "the Japanese site has listed it as non-Legendary, indicating that it is neither Mythical nor Legendary," and "the reliability of its placement on the English site is questionable due to the already-contradictory information in it, with Shaymin and Keldeo being classified as Legendary despite another statement on the site claiming that all Legendary Pokémon are obtainable in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire" for against. This would be completely true - it IS under debate - and it's the only way to accurately represent both sides in the article. Sound like an adequate compromise? EpicDeino (talk) 02:54, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
(resetting indent)I think you're being needlessly uptight about Keldeo/Shaymin and the statement that "all Legendary Pokémon can be obtained in-game". (I say this realizing that the same could perhaps be said about my conviction that Deoxys must be either Legendary or Mythical. =P ) There are reasonable explanations why they're included in the Legendary Pokemon section. They could easily consider Mythical and Legendary Pokemon similar enough, and/or consider it too much of a hassle to make a whole separate Mythical section, that including them under Legendary is good enough for most users (perhaps not for at least one, plainly =P ). In any case, the Legendary section is still plainly the section for Legendary or Mythical Pokemon. You're taking it too far when you try to dismiss it entirely as any sort of evidence about Deoxys' status.
"One source must be wrong" is no more speculation than "Deoxys is neither Legendary nor Mythical". Both fly in the face of plain facts (plain "statements" by different sources vs all of Deoxys's Legendary- or Mythical-like characteristics). They are in fact both reasonable conclusions, that simply differ as a result of placing different value on different pieces of evidence.
I am loath to say Deoxys should be treated anything like Phione. (But I wouldn't stop it if people think it should be.) Someone else can comment on that. Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:01, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
If I would say, I'd say that make a conclusion based on 2 sources with different languages (wait, is the survey available in other language, too?) is not what we should always do, because of the localization or something (I don't know why, but the survey even says Dialga, Palkia and Giratina are a pair).
About the Shaymin/Keldeo page, it clearly says "Change Two Mythical Pokémon!" and "The Mythical Pokémon Shaymin and Keldeo can change their appearance...", so I agree that it weird when you said about all Legendary can be obtain in ORAS (also, "between XY and ORAS", not "in ORAS"). And after all, maybe it's not so unreliable like you said, maybe it just whoever at TPC categorize the site thinks that "Mythical" is a subset category of "Legendary" (like what I always thought before last week).
And about treating Deoxys like Phione, I think we should just write the debates in the trivia sections (at both this page and Deoxys's page) as normal. I think it's not worth making things as serious as Phione. We should ask more people about this. --Yen01 (talk) 04:56, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
If other Pokémon that we know aren't Legendary are in the section, it can't be used as evidence that something else in it is Legendary, regardless of what you speculate they may have been thinking - they made an error in a nearly identical situation, and without verification, we can't be sure that Deoxys' placement isn't another, and we certainly can't use it as proof of anything. I'm not being "uptight" about it; it's an error and the source can't be used for proof if it contains other false information. We can put a trivia point saying "Deoxys was called Legendary on the ORAS website" like how we mention the errors in spelling Jessie's name by different sources. That said, again, it is debated, with conflicting official sources. Which really is the same as Phione, minus the fact that Deoxys has fan-designated traits associated with Legendary Pokémon and Phione has fan-designated traits associated with non-Mythical Pokémon. Deoxys' status is debated and there is conflict between official sources. You've said so yourself. Phione's status is also debated and there is conflict between official sources. Why is Deoxys' situation different from Phione's and why should they be treated differently?
Yen01, I did mean between XY and ORAS. Didn't realize I only mentioned ORAS in that retelling of the information. Sorry! Also, I'm not using sources from different languages. Both of the sources I presented were Japanese; other people were bringing up the survey and the English site, but I've been using a consistent language when bringing up new points, and going only by the sources from one language, I have explained why Deoxys is not Legendary and not Mythical. EpicDeino (talk) 05:20, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Don't try to downplay the commonalities among Legendary and/or Mythical Pokemon by calling them "fan-designated". They are not, as that implies, made up by fans. It doesn't matter if no official source has explicitly defined those characteristics in writing; they don't need to. They have manifestly created those "Legendary" and "Mythical" Pokemon and/or the games such that those Pokemon have common characteristics that are readily identifiable by anyone moderately familiar with the games. That is not "fan-designated", that's just being observant. Tiddlywinks (talk) 06:32, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
All pseudo-Legendaries were dual-typed and that was considered not only an observation, but a rule. Then Goodra came. Pseudo-Legendary is referred to not only as a fan term but a flexible one despite being a pattern of Pokémon specifically designed to have common characteristics readily identifiable by most fans. "Being observant" and using basic logic to solve something like this is speculation and assumption, which, no matter how obvious it is, can't be put on Bulbapedia. This is a site that still doesn't consider Zygarde a member of the Mortality Trio because it's not confirmed. Deoxys' status as Legendary or Mythical is, as of ORAS, just as inconclusive as Phione's, and no amount of your opinion on what makes a Pokémon "deserve" the status can change that. EpicDeino (talk) 06:56, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
I think the English site including Deoxys and Mythical Pokémon under "Legendary Pokémon" can just be marked down to an error; we have ample evidence that Legendary and Mythical Pokémon are mutually-exclusive groups from both English and Japanese sources.
"pseudo-Legendary" is a fan term to describe a pattern in Pokémon. I had always argued that "dual-typed" was merely a coincidence and not a critical part of the pattern. Regardless, they were never officially defined as a group, so their parameters were always fan-designated, whereas "Mythical Pokémon" has been officially defined. The two are not comparable.
I think it's entirely reasonable to handle Deoxys like Phione at present. Both are permitted in the upcoming "Circle of Legends" tournament, which only permits Legendary and Mythical Pokémon, despite us having conflicting evidence about their status as Mythical Pokémon. --SnorlaxMonster 08:03, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
You are as wrong as it is possible to be that I am speculating, EpicDeino. I am indeed assuming, but so are you and so is anyone who won't just shrug and say "I don't know". Lacking an explicit and unambiguous statement one way or another, that's all it is possible to do, in the end; look at all your evidence, weigh it, and draw your own, personal conclusion/opinion. You're no more special than I in that regard. Tiddlywinks (talk) 09:06, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Snorlax, I meant in regards to Legendary Pokémon. I know Mythical has fixed criteria. Sorry; it wasn't clear in that post, but when I said "fan-designated traits associated with non-Mythical Pokémon," I meant things like breedability that weren't official criteria and people were just assuming. I have mentioned the official distinction between Mythical and normal previously, and was trying (albeit very vaguely) to illustrate the point that any requirements that are fan-designated (that is, anything else) aren't actually relevant.
I am also aware that pseudo-Legendary is a fan group, and I was comparing the fact that fans claim that pattern is deliberate on Game Freak's part and entirely consistent to the fact that they also claim that the traits shared by Legendary Pokémon (which are, unlike Mythical Pokémon, really only bound by official statement of their status - there is no official statement of the traits that "make" a Legendary) are deliberate on Game Freak's part and entirely consistent, the latter of which was being used to say that Deoxys "deserved" the status more than Phione and being used as an argument against treating them similarly.
Tiddlywinks, may I ask why you claim I'm acting as if I'm "special?" You have cited fan-designated "rules" for Legendaries - and I've explained why fan-designated "rules" have changed in the past for other patterns that fans picked up on by being "observant" - and said "it deserves the status" and that it seems "intuitive" that it would be one of them, both of which are blatantly opinionated, along with citing exactly one source. You've also repeatedly disregarded the statements that I've made, saying that they are "contradictory" when they go hand in hand with one another and are from a consistent and accurate source, and that they prove nothing simply because they prove the two halves of the point separately rather than simultaneously... which means absolutely nothing about their validity. You've also said I'm being "needlessly uptight" about a factual error that conclusively proves a source's unreliability, then provided yet more speculation in the form of your idea of why the error might have happened, as if that makes it any less of an error. Common mistake ≠ not a mistake. Understandable mistake ≠ not a mistake. In contrast to all of your speculation, assumptions and allegedly "logical" statements that contradict facts, I've exclusively cited actual evidence and used no opinionated statements as reasoning, and I have proven - repeatedly - that the only source of real evidence you have brought up is unreliable. Despite this, I'm still trying to settle for the lesser option of acknowledging the debate on the page and treating it like Phione instead of trying to press my own stance, which seems to be what the majority of official evidence points towards, and having the page flat-out state that it's not Legendary or Mythical as I originally desired. There is still no proof that it is Legendary or Mythical, except for one categorization in a list that is already erroneous and therefore unreliable, while there is conclusive proof from a separate source that does not actively contradict itself. I still fail to see why you think your argument holds as much weight as mine, let alone that I must see myself as "special" - a case of ad hominem that has nothing to do with the argument, which is often frowned upon in the average debate almost as much as saying that the fact that it's not Legendary and the fact that it's not Mythical don't prove that it isn't Legendary or Mythical (how can something not be Legendary or Mythical, but... still be one of those things?) - for not being totally sold on the opinions, factually invalid "logic," patterns and invalid sources you've used to present your case. Just saying. EpicDeino (talk) 10:46, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
You're misunderstanding me greatly if you think I want to treat Deoxys unfairly. I never said that Doexys and Phione should not be treated similarly. I only said that I am (very much personally/selfishly) loath to endorse treating Deoxys like Phione. I very explicitly meant to leave open the possibility that it was/is the right thing to do; however, *I* simply did not want to be the one to validate that. The sole reason for that sentiment is that I would much rather have a solid answer than endorse another "Well, gee, we're not really sure, so let us show you a bunch of bits and pieces of info, and just have a think on it yourself..." in the mainspace. But, as I said, if it is the right thing to do, then I have no intention of gainsaying that; of insisting that Deoxys be treated "unfairly".
My quandry comes down to this... I don't think it should be radical to say that it would be a drastic action to officially strip a Legendary or Mythical Pokemon of those titles. (I really don't care if you think this is "just" opinion.) Given that, I think it is unconscionable to claim that this is what happened without a very explicit and unambiguous statement that that is exactly the case. We do not have that.
There did used to be a Mailbag. Is there no way to ask someone officially now whether Deoxys is officially a Legendary, or a Mythical, or perhaps neither?
Also, FWIW, "You're no more special than I", i.e., "You and I are basically equals" is not ad hominem. I just wrote it that way for a bit of (I feel) poetic flair or something. I think if you read it consistently with my statement there, it should come off as just saying "Hey, we both have opinions, and it's natural for you to think you're right, but please don't try to say I'm being wildly unreasonable (i.e., speculating)." I don't care if you think I am unreasonable (i.e., reasoning wrong), because I certainly think you are in places, but I think that to label my reasoning speculation is, itself, unreasonable. =P
(I could also try to state more clearly now why I'm reasonable—to answer your questions above of why I'm seeming to be "illogical"—but I really don't like long talk page posts and it really isn't sounding like I'm going to convince you of the merits of my arguments, or even that my logic is "logical" and not just opinion or speculation, so I kind of think it's pointless.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:11, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Oh yeah, as SnorlaxMonster mentioned above: "Both [Deoxys and Phione] are permitted in the upcoming "Circle of Legends" tournament, which only permits Legendary and Mythical Pokémon". Is that good enough for you? Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:27, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
"Phione is a usable Pokémon in the recently announced Rotation Battle tournament Circle of Legends where only Legendary and Mythical Pokémon are allowed." That's already mentioned on Phione's page - in the "evidence for" section, which, along with the "evidence against" section, still exists in Trivia in spite of this evidence. Bulbapedia has clearly deemed it insufficient proof for Phione, so it's insufficient proof for Deoxys. The "other" section of Phione's page also points out "Originally, Phione was not needed in order to complete the National Pokédex, as with other Mythical Pokémon. However, beginning with Pokémon X and Y, it is needed to qualify for the diploma." This is the same as Deoxys. It also mentions the mailbag, which not only changed its answer and therefore wasn't even included to favor a specific side, but nothing like which currently exists as far as I know. Not an option right now. From the survey and the Pokédex, we know it's not Mythical, so that just leaves the dispute between Legendary and neither. You've cited the Circle of Legends tournament - which is still being listed on the page as part of the dispute and not conclusive evidence in Phione's case - against the Japanese official site - which has not been proven unreliable, either, and should be considered equal. Two conflicting sources. Notice, also, that most of Phione's evidence is from different games. Deoxys has only had one game since the conflict started, so it makes sense that there would be less evidence, but an official source outside of games (the guide in Phione's case and the Japanese site in Deoxys') and the Circle of Legends tournament (for both) contradict each other in the same way. So, Deoxys is not Mythical - we even have in-game proof - and we have conflicting evidence from official sources that contradict each other on whether or not they were Legendary. Still in the same scenario as Phione. If you don't want to "be the one to endorse" that they should be treated the same, why? There's equal evidence for both sides. The scenario is the same - you're just saying that you personally don't want them to be treated the same regardless, simply because you'd rather have a clear official statement - which we don't have right now and can't get. When and if we get official confirmation of exactly what Deoxys is, we can change the page to say so. But Phione hasn't gotten that after eight years of being around, so that's utterly absurd - we cannot wait until something that may never happen before we address the fact that a Pokémon now listed as Mythical is NOT Mythical (that much, at least, hasn't been argued against once in this entire debate, and that is what the page currently falsely states), is either Legendary or normal and that there is conflicting evidence between official sources as to which of the two possibilities it is. This is no different from Phione. And while Deoxys may have less evidence, it has less for both sides, because the dispute hasn't existed for as long.
Side note: Yes, "you're no more special than I" does mean "you and I are equals." It also, unlike the presented alternative, contains many implications that are not only rude but, in this scenario, false (unless you care to explain why they're true, which the bottom of your post suggests you don't plan on doing) - "you're no more special than I" clearly states that the other person thinks he or she is more special carries the implication that they're acting in a biased (which more accurately describes some of your arguments, such as "it deserves the status"), entitled, or otherwise narcissistic or selfish manner. They have the same meaning, but "you're no more special than I" has much harsher (and, yes, insulting) connotations. It's not "poetic;" it's rude.
Last thing: how is it unreasonable for me to call your speculation what it is? I'll gladly admit I'm wrong if you explain why I am.
There's no valid reason not to simply treat it like Phione when the only proof you have is shared by Phione and the alternative you've requested isn't possible right now. EpicDeino (talk) 22:57, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
You are having considerable trouble understanding me, when I thought I was being very clear. Read this and take it to heart, please: I am NOT trying to push that Deoxys should not be treated like Phione. I do not claim that there is conclusive evidence of anything for Deoxys. Please stop writing as if I am. I will ignore anything else from you for now until I believe you understand me on this. Thank you. Tiddlywinks (talk) 01:06, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
You explicitly stated that despite not being against the idea, you refused to endorse it in favor of waiting for an official statement. I explained in my post why that's probably not an option.
Second, "Oh yeah, as SnorlaxMonster mentioned above: "Both [Deoxys and Phione] are permitted in the upcoming "Circle of Legends" tournament, which only permits Legendary and Mythical Pokémon". Is that good enough for you?" Considering that this was in the same post that you said you wanted to deal with the issue when we got an official statement, this sounded an awful lot like an attempt at proving it was conclusively Legendary, particularly the last sentence. I only reacted to exactly what you said here.
Third, you're now using "I'm going to ignore you" as a way to avoid the other part of my post: you still haven't explained how the majority of your argument was anything but speculation, with your statements of "it deserves it," "it has common traits of Legendaries" and the like being absolutely opinionated and your previous insistence that people weren't on the same page and the evidence I presented was void when two pieces of evidence that didn't contradict one another supported the opposite side simply because you thought it must be an error for Deoxys not to be Legendary or Mythical after defending a source I criticized for already being wrong about something. You can't say I'm the one being biased and acting entitled or "special" when you have previously - in this same debate - tried to ignore perfectly valid evidence because it contradicted what you wanted at that point in the argument. EpicDeino (talk) 03:10, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
1)You seem to believe here that it is critical that you convince me of this, as if I am somehow stopping you or anyone else. Let me repeat myself: I take no part in that decision, in any way. (If you think I have, you mistake me.) Decide it with others (or yourself).
2) I'm sorry if it sounded like I thought it was a conclusive, official statement. That's not really the case. What I meant was, you had denounced the other things I had attempted to give you as valid evidence that Deoxys was Legendary or Mythical (either you think I'm speculating or you think it's unreliable); so, would you consider the tournament a valid piece of evidence that Deoxys is Legendary or Mythical? (I don't ask you to be convinced that Deoxys is Legendary or Mythical. I'm only asking that you recognize it as validly contradicting the conclusion you've held so far (when you've so far claimed that nothing I've brought up can), that Deoxys is neither Legendary nor Mythical; a smidgen of reasonable doubt, in short.)
3) Understand that "It has common traits of Legendaries" (Deoxys and indisputably Legendary Pokemon share certain traits that other Pokemon (not counting Mythicals) do not have) is not opinion, it is fact. What you mean is, you do not accept that there are any traits (short of officially being given the title) that define a Legendary Pokemon. Which is fine. But it does not mean Deoxys does not have those traits. Those commonalities cannot be wished away; the only point where you have choice (opinion) is in the conclusion you make from them. (FWIW, you also throw out a quote of me of "It deserves it" like it's something separate, but that's actually squarely based on Deoxys' Legendary traits. ...The rest, I can't really bring anything new to. I have explained and you've rejected; I'm comfortable with it being a simple difference of opinion.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:19, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
(Resetting indent.) 1) Okay. I just figured I might as well explain it anyway, since the purpose of this discussion is to get a consensus and you said you would prefer an official statement even though that's not an option. 2) Ah, sorry for misunderstanding. Then yes, that is a valid point that should definitely be brought up somewhere (after all, it is with Phione). 3) My dispute with that quote was more or less that I interpreted what you were saying as making it off as some kind of "rule" when other patterns that fans claimed were deliberate and consistent later changed. But considering your last post, I do understand your stance and... basically don't think there's anything to argue with you about any more? I apologize for misunderstanding some of your statements and probably coming off as rude in how I reacted to them (especially given that I was wrong in the first place). Thank you for the clarification! EpicDeino (talk) 05:36, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome. =) Tiddlywinks (talk) 06:05, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
I'm adding a little thing to this discussion: ORAS take place in another dimension/universe/whatever, right? Well, in that dimension Deoxys is Legendary, while in the previous one it's Mythical. This is only a possible explanation of the vague classification we have now from Game Freak/TPC, it should by no means be included in any page, but I thought it could be interesting to add to your conversation. In this way, there is no "change of classification" from Mythical to Legendary (or "other"): it simply is another world with its own classification. Shepeedy (talk) 22:25, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
I all but laughed out loud when I happened to notice this... It turns out that Deoxys is actually explicitly called a "Mythical Pokemon" in-game. I'm not sure if there are any Youtube videos that explicitly show this, but if you return to the second floor of the Mossdeep Space Center after clearing the Delta Episode, there's a small dialogue event where it happens. If you look up the text dump, you can see it there, or of course you can test it yourself directly in-game.
IMO, if they've said it explicitly in-game (perhaps especially if it's in-game), then Deoxys is Mythical, even if the supposed definition of "Mythical" seems to contradict that classification. (I kind of think that in order to contradict this, TPC/whatever might have to either explicitly state that Deoxys is "not a Mythical Pokemon" or they'll have to explicitly say/show that Deoxys is Legendary (or common) with some consistency.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 19:40, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
This is the quote for future reference:
"Extrapolating from the energy readings we observed seems to show evidence of the Mythical Pokémon that lives in space: Deoxys."
And in the Japanese version:
「われわれの かんそくした エネルギーは から すいそく するに それは うちゅうに せいそく すると いわれる まぼろしの ポケモン―――デオキシス」
The only other times the word Mythical is used in ORAS is during the Diancie Pokémon Center event and in the Volcanion TV specials. Legendary is only used in ORAS to refer to Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, someone's wife, when you have more than three in your party for a competition, and in the Pokédex entries for the birds, tao trio, and Yveltal. --Abcboy (talk) 21:34, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
Pfft, wow. I cannot believe I didn't know about that.
Well, I'm kind of embarrassed right now. XD I can't exactly argue with the game itself explicitly stating that it's Mythical, so... Yeah, I guess it is. :'D EpicDeino (talk) 02:30, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Deoxys is not allowed to join player's team in the next year as the world tournament, so I think the answer is obvious. E9310103838 (talk) 07:08, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
Not necessarily. If I remember right not long before/after Diancie was officially revealed there was a tournament that let you use any Pokémon except Diancie. I think the reason for that is obvious: it was officially revealed but was not yet distributed but people still had it through hacking. My point with that is that they can ban Pokémon from tournaments for practically any reason. So it's not impossible that it's banned because it used to be a Mythical Pokémon. I'm just trying to make a point and am actually neutral on the situation. And either way I consider Mythical Pokémon to be a type of Legendary Pokémon so to me it wouldn't be part of completely separate group either way.Flain (talk) 21:46, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
Is there some logic that with some legendary pokemon there are more than one in anime(for example: Latios, Lugia), and with some only one (Mew, Tornados)? Lokki (talk), 19:38, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
No legendary is unique. Think about it. If it were unique, if one dies, the species goes extinct. That should have happened a long time ago if they were unique. We haven't seen ALL of Dialga's or Palkia's dimensions, either. Same goes for Giratina and Arceus. We have only seen small sections of them. For all we know, these dimensions could have thousands or even MILLIONS of their respective species. And of course, there are multiple Mews: One flies throughout the world, while another is at the Tree of Beginning. For Mewtwo, both fly around the world. One has a more woman-like voice, and that one can Mega Evolve. I could go on all day, naming all the legendaries and saying why we know there is multiple, but I'm getting bored of typing this. TheRealArceus (talk) 16:47, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
This discussion is more suited for the forums, so please take it over there.--ForceFire 23:26, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
Is Zygarde a Member of the Mortality Duo?(Therefore making it the Mortality Trio)
Look at it this way. Kyurem was the final member of the Tao trio. Giratina was the final member of the Creation Trio and Rayquaza was the trump card in the Weather Trio. If Game Freak has taught me anything its that the same formula works most of the time.PastureGaiPokemon12 (talk) 23:04:18 7 August,2015(UTC)
There's nothing that actually calls it a member of the Mortality Duo, therefore it is not listed as such. Litwick96 20:33, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
It most definitely is, considering the clues and patterns seen before, so it's pretty blatantly obvious that Zygarde is most definitely in a trio with Xerneas and Yveltal. I will say that it definitely fits the pattern with Rayquaza, Giratina, and Kyurem, and there are a few clues with Zygarde being related to Xerneas and Yveltal. That being said, even though the clues make it obvious that Zygarde is related to Xerneas and Yveltal, it's not explicitly stated in X and Y and is therefore unconfirmed, which is why it is not listed as being in a trio with Xerneas and Yveltal. So in short, wait until we get an announcement of the inevitable Pokemon Z before we do anything with listing Zygarde as being in a trio with Xerneas and Yveltal. ScraftyIsTheBest (talk) 01:31, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
Zygarde is known as the Order Pokemon while Xerneas and Yveltal are Peace and Chaos respectively (I think), Its like Rayquaza all over again. Balance is needed so we have Zygarde.(talk)
Unless it is explicitly stated, Zygarde is not part of any trio. Yes, it's quite obvious, but we have no official confirmation (from the game or the anime) that it is part of a trio. Giratina was not considered part of a trio until Platinum was released, Kyurem was not considered part of a trio until Black2/White2 were released. So it's the same situation here, we will have to wait for a game to be released that will confirm its relation with Xerneas/Yveltal.--ForceFire 03:23, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
There does seem to be some official evidence pointing towards them being a trio. Specifically:
I haven't played Rumble World in a while, so this is from someone else, but apparently you need to get all three of them to unlock a Title, in exactly the same manner as every other Legendary Trio. (For reference, this Title is "Aura Traveler"). This is the strongest piece of evidence in that an actual game, albeit a side game, explicitly considers them a trio. and, in doing so, affects actual gameplay. Other trios (Super-Ancient Pokémon, Creation Trio, and Tao Trio at the very least) are treated exactly the same as this trio.
CoroCoro explicitly compares Zygarde to Xerneas and Yveltal in the latest issue. Although it is only in terms of power, they singled out those two even though plenty of other Legendaries have exactly the same stat total. This is fairly tenuous, but they explicitly compared it to the very two Pokémon already considered a trio in Rumble World.
All three have Aura-based Abilities, and Zygarde's directly interacts with those of Xerneas and Yveltal.
Not sure how much of a difference this makes, but considering actual in-game ties between exclusively Zygarde and Xerneas or Yveltal (their Abilities), comparisons between this trio and only this trio in CoroCoro, and an actual game considers them a trio, I think that it's been officially confirmed and not being made up by fans. EpicDeino (talk) 23:23, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
Hello? I don't even care if the answer is yes or no, but there needs to be an answer. Bulbapedia's policy is that we're not allowed to change the page until discussion, and apparently even the fact that nobody is presenting a counterargument isn't enough, so people need to discuss whether they agree or not or nothing is ever going to get done. So... BUMPing this? (Is that the right term here?) EpicDeino (talk) 00:23, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
ForceFire's response above still applies. In short: just wait. Tiddlywinks (talk) 03:05, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
It is pretty obvious, besides it will likely be confirmed by early or late next year.Animaltamer707:29, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
ForceFire's response said to wait until we have proof. Rumble World recognizes them as a trio. How is that not proof
Again, I'm fine if that's not good enough, but at least respond to the evidence instead of saying a post from before there was any whatsoever that said to wait until there was any whatsoever still applies. Right now, evidence for consists of a side game and evidence against consists of "there is no evidence for," which is currently no longer true, although admittedly Rumble World IS relatively minor even if it is in-game proof. EpicDeino (talk) 09:02, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
From what you wrote above, it sounds like Rumble World only implies they're a trio. If Rumble World's treatment of trios is not something that they have plainly said, "This is something we will only do for trios", it does not amount to proof, it is only supportive evidence. We need something explicit (clear, unarguable, unopinionated). Tiddlywinks (talk) 09:30, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
(reset indent)As Tiddly said it only implies, until something from CoroCoro or any official source has confirmation that they are a trio (which again is obvious) it should be left unchanged.Animaltamer711:37, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
"a set or group of three people or things."
How does grouping them and only them together for an achievement only "imply" that they are a group? We can always take it off if there's any counterevidence, but we legitimately have them as a group in a game. EpicDeino (talk) 04:42, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
Just be patient.Animaltamer704:58, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
We're not talking about just "groups". A "group" does not a "trio" make (not all by itself). Trios are a special relationship, and nothing so far has plainly testified to such a relationship.
You missed a very important point in my previous response: "If Rumble World's treatment of trios is not something that they have plainly said, 'This is something we will only do for trios', it does not amount to proof". Right now, you are ASSUMING that because they are grouped, that means they must be a Legendary Trio. But in truth, you have not shown that being in that group MUST mean they are a Legendary trio; you have only shown that it is reasonable. That is not sufficient. Tiddlywinks (talk) 05:21, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
First: I just gave the actual definition of trio. If they are a group of exactly three, they are a trio, and Rumble World makes it clear that they are a group of three.
Second: Have the others even been called Legendary Trios? We say it's "reasonable" to group Dialga, Palkia and Giratina because they're all Sinnoh mascots. But are they officially called Legendary Trios? Last I checked, that's not even an official term.
So I honestly don't know why having identical treatment to every other thing we group as a Legendary Trio is insufficient. Nor why people keep saying "be patient" as if I'm just saying "it's logical, why don't you idiots see it" without providing in-game proof that they are a group. (And yes, I've seen people say that and people have responded in exactly the same way. You're missing the fact that YES, I'm providing PROOF that EXPLICITLY considers them a trio. A trio that is made of Legendaries. How does that "not a Legendary trio make?") EpicDeino (talk) 05:12, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
All I feel capable of saying anymore is...just wait. Staff fairly plainly don't intend to acknowledge it yet. (Plainly enough, they're waiting for "Pokemon Z", or, as ForceFire said, something in the anime.) So. If there is any chance anyone can persuade you anymore, I imagine it will have to be staff. Sorry I wasn't able to shed enough light on things. Tiddlywinks (talk) 06:00, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
(resetting indent) Just to intervene. Rumble does group them, but that's all it does. It doesn't shed light on how they're related. The Aura based abilities is really the only concrete thing so far. Currently, and hopefully, the new anime series will probably connect the three or a new game will be revealed in the upcoming months. So, be patient. If you can wait for ORAS to be released, then you can wait for them to release whatever comes next.--ForceFire 06:10, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
Pokemon Center Deoxys
According to the Pokèmon Center website, Deoxys is a legendary Pokèmon, not a mythical one. source: http://www.pokemoncenter.com/info/Pokemon_Characters The legendary Pokèmon list includes Mewtwo, Lugia, Regirock, Latias, Latios, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Deoxys, Xerneas, and Yveltal. The mythical Pokèmon list includes Mew, Jirachi, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus, Victini, and Diancie. Note that the image for mythical Pokèmon also shows Genesect.
Because in-game text in ORAS refers to Deoxys as mythical, should we include this as a contradiction, or perhaps as an error?
ᗧ•••ᗣ Pacack
01:16, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
I've noted this in the trivia section, just as it was added to Deoxys' page. If anyone objects to this, please let me know.
Wait, What Happened To The Movie Trivia?
It had been there forever. I don't remember the exact wording and stuff, but the general gist went like this. And I updated it to match what we've seen as of XY&Z, as well as M18.
Ho-Oh is the only Johto Legendary to not be featured in the movies or an anime arc outside of cameos. Lugia was in "The Power Of One", Entei was in "Spell Of The Unown" and Celebi and Suicune were in "Pokémon 4Ever". Raikou was featured in both "The Legend Of Thunder", as well as "Zoroark: Master Of Illusions" alongside Entei, Suicune and Celebi.
Cresselia and Phione are the only Sinnoh Legendaries to not be featured in the movies or anime arcs. Mesprit, Azelf and Uxie were prominent in the Diamond & Pearl anime, Dialga and Palkia starred alongside Darkrai in "The Rise Of Darkrai", Manaphy starred in "Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea", Arceus and Heatran starred in "Arceus and the Jewel of Life" and Shaymin and Giratina starred alongside Regigigas in "Giratina and the Sky Warrior". However, Cresselia did have a cameo in "Giratina And The Sky Warrior", and both Legendaries have had standalone anime episodes.
Volcanion is the only Kalos Legendary to not be featured in a movie or the anime, though it will be in the upcoming 19th movie. Xerneas, Yveltal and Diancie starred in "Diancie and the Cocoon of Destruction", Hoopa starred in "Hoopa and the Clash of Ages", and Zygarde is the focus of the "XY&Z" anime.
All Kanto, Hoenn and Unova legendaries have had prominent roles in movies or anime arcs.
--BlackButterfree (talk) 20:34, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
The user who removed it did so because Groudon appeared in M18, though that applied to Groudon's point not the whole trivia. I've only added back Ho-oh since the time taken makes it notable, Gen IV still has five Pokémon left rather than just one while Gen V is still recent.--ForceFire 04:30, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
Separating Article
Is there a reason we have not separated this article into two separate articles on Legendary and Mythical Pokémon? There has been a clear distinction made at this point, and I see little reason not to make the split. The only potential disagreement I can forsee is on Deoxys, but we could include a footnote in this article and solve that relatively easily.
I can begin drafting the Mythical Pokémon article if there are no objections and if no one else has already. Paᗧ•••ᗣck 17:13, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
I have created a draft of the Mythical Pokémon page on my userpage. Please look at it and offer criticisms and feel free to edit. I had some trouble with the images, but I believe the current layout is as aesthetically appealing as it can be without breaking anything.
Note that much of the information is repeated from this article, as it would be in the split itself. If you see any grammatical errors or missing information, please correct it in this article as well, as this was my source. Paᗧ•••ᗣck 18:30, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
I honestly consider Mythical Pokémon to be a type of legendary Pokémon. So I don't see much reason too.Flain (talk) 05:33, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
We have confirmation against that, though. It has been stated by multiple sources that every Legendary Pokémon would be available between ORAS and X and Y, and yet no Mythical Pokémon were available. If Mythical Pokémon were indeed a subset, then that would not have been the case. Paᗧ•••ᗣck 02:23, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
I think it's better to keep the page as it is, most fans would collectively call both groups as Legendary pokemon.Animaltamer703:21, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
That doesn't mean these fans are correct, though. The Mythical term has been consistently used for a very long time at this point, and we are meant to follow official sources, not just the majority. Paᗧ•••ᗣck 22:38, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
I see no reason to split them up. Mythical Pokémon are in fact legendary Pokémon, just extremely rare legendary Pokémon. No one could possibly argue that Arceus is not in fact a legend despite being a myth, for example. --BlackButterfree (talk) 16:35, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
Note that this page defines Mythical Pokémon as "a related but separate group of Pokémon" from Legendary Pokémon. Mythical Pokémon are not a subset of Legendary Pokémon, but rather a related group.
Also note that the capitalization is important in "Legendary Pokémon" and "Mythical Pokémon." Legendary Pokémon can be featured in myths as well as legends, and Mythical Pokémon are sometimes the subject of legends (Arceus included). In that sense, "Legendary" Pokémon can be "mythical" and "Mythical" Pokémon can be "legendary." What ultimately defines a Pokémon as Mythical has to do with said Pokémon's exposure during regular gameplay, whether or not they are revealed with the rest of their generation, and whether they are necessary to complete the Pokédex.
If you'd like to know more, I'm currently working with another user to complete a draft for the Mythical Pokémon article [1], which we'll present to senior members of the wiki for approval along with a new Legendary Pokémon article. Paᗧ•••ᗣck 21:21, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
I will continue to cite North American Super Smash Bros. for Wii U in order to oppose any splitting efforts, despite probably being in the minority on this issue. Bwburke94 (talk) 04:52, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
What is wrong with using deity/deities or derived terms when speaking generically (no gender connotations that is)? Jdogno4 (talk) 06:44, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Okay I feel this something that needs to be asked, do you even know what a deity is?Flain (talk) 21:16, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Legendary v. Mythical: A Solution for Everyone?
I noticed that the page has been split in two, and after reviewing the Legendary and Mythical Pokemon debate, I thought of a solution that might make everyone happy. Some people, including me, come to this page to seek information on both Legendary and Mythical Pokemon. But there is a notable difference, so that poses a counter argument. I propose that we re-combine the two pages, but rename the page to "Legendary and Mythical Pokemon", while noting the difference between Legendary and Mythical, as well as stating which ones are Legendary and which ones are Mythical in their respective summaries. This would also solve the issue of Legendary Families being split (i.e. Mew Duo, Swords of Justice). Any links to the Legendary or Mythical pages would have to redirect here. If we can all agree on this, I can start recombining them, although I'm new to editing Wikis. TheRubberGuy (talk) 21:45, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
I don't think recombining them is a good idea since the Pokemon Company itself now treats them as separate groups. Given a choice between precision and convenience, I really think we need to prioritize precision, or else we risk implying (or worse, actively providing) false information. Anyway, we already give a link to Mythical Pokémon in the very second sentence, along with an explanation of why the groups are now treated as separate, so it ought to be plenty clear to readers. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 22:53, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
Changes to legendary definition
Since Sun and Moon came out, which included a legendary Pokémon which evolves (Cosmog -> Cosmoem -> Solgaleo/Lunala), shouldn't we edit that in that legendaries can evolve now? Also, with this change of definition, will Type:Null and Silvally be considered legendary?
Would the Ultra Beasts also be considered legendary, even though some of them you can get more than one?
If these changes happen, I propose a new definition: "A Legendary Pokémon is a Pokémon that is only available in limited amounts in normal gameplay and cannot breed to create more of the same species." ----Celadonkey (talk) 13:17, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
Type:Null and Silvally are more of a case of artificial pokemon like porygon, where it is possible to make more of them. The Ultra Beasts are kinda mysterious at the moment, making it hard to define whether they belong as legendaries or pokemon from another dimension like unown.Animaltamer713:25, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
I think we should be thinking about it from a gameplay standpoint, not from a lore one. The fact is there is only one Type:Null available in the game, only one Nihilegos, two Buzzwoles, four Pheromosas, etc. And if you do want to think about it from a lore standpoint - Mewtwo is both artificial and Legendary, and Giratina is a Pokémon that is both legendary and from a different dimension.
I'm not going to state my personal opinion on the matter but I would like input and/or discussion from mods. ----Celadonkey (talk) 13:35, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
I don't have my game on hand right now so I can't cite the exact colors, but if you look in the Alola Pokedex, the Legendaries (Cosmog's evolutionary line, Necrozma, and Zygarde) appear with one background color; the ordinary Pokemon appear with another; and there's a third background color for the Ultra Beasts, Type:Null, Silvally, and the Tapus. I think it's clear that the developers have intended to create a separate group for these that is not Legendary, but until we have an official name for it we probably can't really implement it. In any case, it's amply clear that the developers do not intend these as Legendaries.
Gameplay vs. lore should not, in my opinion, be a discussion that even comes into play when Word Of God trumps both. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 14:16, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
I noticed it too but always thought both were legendaries. Would this potentially retcon the legendary status of older Pokémon, like Uxie, Tornadus, or Registeel? ----Celadonkey (talk) 14:22, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
Impossible to know unless Pokemon Bank provides some similar visual indication when it's updated in January, since there's no National Dex and those Pokemon don't appear in the Alola Dex. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:30, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
That would be ridiculous if they did. Personally I think blue means non-legendary, green(?) is a legendary, and rainbow is a special legendary (the box legends and Mythicals). If a green page means non-legendary too, that would mean the Tapus would not be legendary, which I don't think is up for debate. But it's really the mods' decision. ----Celadonkey (talk) 16:46, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
How are the Tapus Legendary, much less not even up for debate? Game Freak has conspicuously avoided using the term "Legendary" for them, and now they have a different Pokedex color scheme. If Game Freak's going out of its way to avoid grouping them in as Legendaries, we shouldn't make that assumption even though the rest of fandom is. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:51, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
Okay, that was kind of rude of me. I'm sorry. But the general assumption right is that the Tapus are legendary. But you're right, we shouldn't assume things until the fanbase has a verdict that is agreed upon or until sufficient evidence is brought up. ----Celadonkey (talk) 22:47, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
For now, why don't we use "Guardian deity" and "Ultra Beast" as unique, Legendary-like types of Pokémon? So have Nihilego listed as a Rock/Poison-type Ultra Beast, Tapu Koko as an Electric/Fairy-type Guardian deity, etc. We know that they are unique instances from normal Pokémon, so this is a way we can show that without assuming their Legendary status.
It is worth noting, though, that Cosmog's evolutionary line are Ultra Beasts, too. Nutter Butter (talk) 21:24, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
I do like this option. Keeping it vague is really the only way to please everyone. ----Celadonkey (talk) 22:38, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
Here's my two cents. The easiest way to determine "Legendary"/"Mythical" is whether or not they're banned in certain game modes, in the case of Sun and Moon this would be the Battle Royal and Battle Tree. In Gen VII, Cosmog, Cosmoem, Solgaleo, Lunala, and Necrozma are banned. The Ultra Beasts are not. And I haven't tested, but it seems the Guardian deities are not. This seems to suggest that the deities and UBs are not legends, but some other classification. I don't even give a Schif (Talk • Contribs) 22:31, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
The Legendary Beasts, Golems, Eon Duo, Pixies, and the like are not banned. I really think it should be up to the fans to decide, as most (cough cough) things are done here. ----Celadonkey (talk) 22:36, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
We only "decide" if there's nothing canonical to go by. If canon exists, we can't and won't override it with something uncanonical. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 06:03, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
But the "canon" is debatable. The only reasons you've given that they are not legendary are an assumption about PokeDex colors and the lack of official material calling them legendary.
It is undeniable that they belong to a unique and special group. Let's leave it at that, and preferably go with my idea :P, until there's official word. Nutter Butter (talk) 06:16, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Yes, I agree with your idea; I wasn't rebutting you, I was rebutting Celadonkey. Given the situation, not committing one way or the other on their Legendary status until Game Freak classifies them more specifically is probably best. Or at least, not committing one way or the other until Bulba staff make an executive decision on the matter. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 06:26, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
This article states that no Legendary or Mythical Pokémon are legal in VGC 2017. The tapu and Ultra Beasts are both legal, whereas Cosmog and its evolutions as well as Zygarde are not. --SnorlaxMonster 09:50, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Well, it says "Mythical and some Legendary Pokémon are not allowed," so that still doesn't really give evidence as to the Legendary status of any Pokémon that's allowed, at least as far as I can tell... Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 17:56, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Good catch! This is an issue that will require some thinking. We should probably wait a bit but that probably means there are some legendaries that are allowed. Probably. ----Celadonkey (talk) 18:04, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Oh, they actually updated that article. When I saw it, it read "No Mythical or Legendary Pokémon are allowed". I archived the Google Cache as proof. --SnorlaxMonster 18:13, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Also a good catch! I thought it said that too but wasn't sure. Wonder what this means. ----Celadonkey (talk) 18:33, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
My gut instinct is that this indicates Nintendo itself (or at least, NOA) isn't sure which Pokémon Game Freak did and didn't intend to be Legendary. If they're still hashing that out among the corporate entities, then caution certainly seems to be the best course of action for us at the moment. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 18:41, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
I agree. Until anything else comes up, we leave everything vague. ----Celadonkey (talk) 18:46, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
It's worth noting that the GTS in Sun and Moon has the option to filter out requests for "Mythical and Legendary Pokémon". I don't have the Pokémon in my Pokédex to check myself, but I'm told that enabling this option also excludes Ultra Beasts, the tapus, and Type: Null/Silvally. --SnorlaxMonster 01:10, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Interesting. So, what will the verdict be? Personally, I think we should wait a bit but I would like to see some of these Pokémon as legendary. Just my opinion though. ----Celadonkey (talk) 02:52, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
So does this mean we now have new Pokemon class and groups just like the Legendary and Mythical? It sounds like those Pokemon are in their own group.--Jacob Kogan (talk) 01:14, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
That especially I'd hold off until. It's kind of out of the blue to create a new group like that and I wouldn't unless, or maybe even, the Pokémon in question are very out of the ordinary. And even so, it's up to the mods. ----Celadonkey (talk) 02:52, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Agreed, we should wait until official sources have directly accepted the UBs & Tapus as Legendaries or not.Animaltamer703:52, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Thats Pokemon for you, so many mystery and theories that Nintendo loves to give us.--Jacob Kogan (talk) 03:54, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Hmm, yet site like Serebii and Pokemon Wiki classified them as Legendaries. I wonder why?--Jacob Kogan (talk) 18:47, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Those are fan sites. It's very easy for them to be wrong. You shouldn't take what they say as truth unless there's proof. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 20:39, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
In the datamine, the Tapus and Ultra Beasts were listed as being Legendaries, albeit placed in the same listings as the Legendaries that are allowed to be used in battle facilities. I believe they were referred to in the code as being sublegends? Either way, SciresM has pictures of both lists up on his Twitter. Azureprism (talk) 21:38, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Interesting now that I think about it, some Legendary are allowed in battle facilities, same goes for Snivally. Hmm some maple are Hearten, , Regigigas, and Cresselia for example. a friend of ym optioned out in his own words "It's been like that since Gen 3. Pokemon with stats of 600 or higher are always banned from a battle facility, unless the 600 stats are from Psudo-Legendaries like Dragonite." There some exception to it. And the fact you can only encounter one in the wild (Even thought some Ultra Beats come in groups of 4), there is a possibility they are indeed and without a doubt Legendaries or Sub-Legendaries as Azureprism pointed out. Well, anything can happen, but I will leave up to you guys on your take of this.--Jacob Kogan (talk) 21:52, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Could you link that? I don't believe you're wrong but I wouldn't like to see. ----Celadonkey (talk) 23:59, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
The Pokémon that are banned from battle facilities are Special Pokémon and Mythical Pokémon (whether Mythical Pokémon are Special Pokémon seems to be unclear). While only Legendary (and possibly Mythical) Pokémon can be Special Pokémon, not being a Special Pokémon has no bearing on whether a Pokémon is a Legendary Pokémon. --SnorlaxMonster 01:18, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
And yet some tournament allowed the sue of Special and Mythical?--Jacob Kogan (talk) 01:52, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Some special online competitions have allowed Mythical Pokémon (and Special Pokémon), and some official tournaments and VGC formats allow Special Pokémon. I'm not sure what your point is. --SnorlaxMonster 02:35, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Yeah sorry about that, Any Those Pokemon, Ultra Beats, Tapy, and the Stythetic Pokemon are the only Pokemon tha that the special abckgorudn and glitter thing in their Pokedex number like Zyagrd for example. Anyway. And if what Azureprism said is true, should they be counted as Legendaries or another class of Legendary Pokemon like the Myhtical (Ultra Beats, Tapu, Type: Null and Snilvally?
That's what this discussion was about in the first place. TechSkylander1518 (talk) 02:48, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Indeed, hmm one I notice that they share with Legendaries is most of them you can only get one per save file, they were mention in legends in the past (The exception being the Synthetic Pokémon), extremely rare and powerful, unique powers. they have roles in Alola Region Lore and affecting it as seen with he Totem Pokemon, the some of them are protectors like the Swords of Justice, the Synthetic Pokémon was created just like Mewtwo and Gensect to be the Ultimate Weapon (For Ultra Beats) and the fact it was based on different types of Pokemon (Including Arecus), all of them can't breed and ar win the Undiscovered Egg Group as the other Legendaries, they are not easy to catch. My point is hopefully to help understand that these Poekmona re indeed Legendaries and they share many trait and heights common or associated with Legendaries and may possibly be in their own unique class. I hope this help the discussion. This my best way to help explain heir status as Legendaries or not. Hope you guys understand.--Jacob Kogan (talk) 03:06, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
TechSkylander1518: It's worth noting that there are three different Pokédex backgrounds: The one used by Legendary and Mythical Pokémon; the one used by Ultra Beasts, the tapus, and Type: Null/Silvally; and the one used by everything else. If anything, I would say that the Pokédex indicates they aren't Legendary (but I think the GTS indicating that they are takes priority). --SnorlaxMonster 03:26, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Jacob Kogan: With legendaries, you can only catch one per save file. You can obtain more by transferring Pokemon or by receiving a Mystery Gift. Furthermore, the reason you can only catch one is generally because there's supposed to only be one in the world-the Ultra Beasts and Synthetic Pokemon have all clearly shown there are more than one. (except, perhaps, Guzzlord) And you can catch more than one of UBs 2-4 per save file. And there are some Pokemon that you can only get one of in a game without breeding-would you consider fossil Pokemon, starters, or Snorlax to be legendaries? The Ultra Beasts are not mentioned in legends. I'm puzzled by your wording on "the exception being the Synthetic Pokemon". You tend to use that term to refer to Silvally and Type: Null, but they're not confirmed to be legendaries, you can't say they're the exception if we don't even know that rules relates to them. It is true that Mewtwo and Genesect were not mentioned in legends, however. Porygon can also change its type, and was created by human beings. That doesn't make it a legendary. A low catch rate and an Undiscovered Egg Group does not make a Pokemon a legendary. The Synthetic Pokemon aren't even caught, they're a gift. Again, not bringing this up to prove that they are or aren't legendaries, just to show--Jacob Kogan (talk) 05:39, 4 December 2016 (UTC) that it's not something that will be solved through debate; we need official information. (I had written this up before I saw SnorlaxMonster's reply-it becomes irrelevant pretty fast, I'm sorry)
SnorlaxMonster: I have noticed the different background, I've currently been taking that to mean that they are in a different class that might or might not be somehow related to Legendaries, but if the GTS calls them Legendaries, that definitely makes things a lot easier, both with wondering whether or not they are and with the possibility of a new classification. (I'm told I don't always get my point across clearly, so I'd like to clarify just in case-I'm not trying to act like I should be the one with the final say on their status, I'm just trying to say that I understand and agree with the GTS proving they are Legendaries) TechSkylander1518 (talk) 03:35, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
So does this mean we finally solve it with the Ultra Beasts, Tapus, Type: Null and Silvally?--Jacob Kogan (talk) 05:16, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
I believe it does-we have official evidence, and SnorlaxMonster is a staff member, so they have enough authority to decide. (I'd add it in myself, but I'm not certain of everything necessary to make the changes-obviously there's the link to the Legendary Pokemon page on their pages, but I'm sure there's a lot more needed) TechSkylander1518 (talk) 05:38, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Agree Tech, at last this debate has finally been settled--Jacob Kogan (talk) 05:40, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
The staff have decided that since the games don't explicitly refer to these Pokémon as Legendary, they should not be referred to as Legendary until and if an official source explicitly describes them as such. --Abcboy (talk) 06:32, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Since SnorlaxMonster brought up the GTS, I'd like to share my two cents! He said that he can't confirm with certainty, but that he had been told that the tapu, Type: Null, Silvally and the Ultra Beasts were counted. After testing it, I can confirm this; there were many requests for them when I checked in-game with Legendaries and Mythicals included, and none remained when I said to exclude them. I can also confirm that it wasn't simply a matter of their having been traded already, as they reappeared when I set it to include them again. Again: confirming that the game explicitly includes them as Legendary or Mythical Pokémon for that purpose! Make of that what you will; I'm not going to say any more regardless, as it's been made clear that this is the staff's decision and I will contribute facts but not say what to do with them. XP EpicDeino (talk) 04:41, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
It's interesting that canon is being considered here given the large amounts of evidence that do exist in the canon for something like, say, Zygarde's very obvious trio status, end up being ignored in favour of conjecture. BeforeJam (talk) 15:19, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
Tapu
The Tapu have unique battle themes, are fought late in the game, can only be encountered once, are pivotal to the story, are high leveled, are difficult-ish to catch, and have BSTs that are in the same general range as most legendaries. Wouldn't they qualify as legendary? - unsigned comment from ChampionBlue (talk • contribs)
That's a debate that was just finished right above this section. TechSkylander1518 (talk) 05:38, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Pretty much TechSkylnader --Jacob Kogan (talk) 05:39, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
None of the things listed by ChampionBlue are a reason to consider the tapu to be Legendary. Rotom meets a number of those conditions in Diamond and Pearl, for example. BSTs are unrelated to whether or not a Pokémon is Legendary (see Cosmog, for example). Oricorio has the same catch rate as Lunala, and Beldum's is incredibly low.
Which Pokémon are Legendary is solely determined by which Pokémon have been officially stated to be. --SnorlaxMonster 06:09, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Also, the Tapus were listed under normal Pokemon by Sun and Moon official site. Only Solgaleo and Lunala (which were the only legendaries revealed pre release) were listed under the 'Legendary' section. If Tapus were legendary, they too would've been listed under 'Legendary' section. The legendary PkmnTrainerV is Here! (talk) 08:00, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
I wanted to use the official site earlier, but currently the English site isn't listing either Cosmog or Zygarde as Legendary Pokémon either. The Japanese and Chinese sites give the tapu their own section (so I wouldn't take them not being in the Legendary section as evidence), but also don't call Cosmog a Legendary Pokémon. The Korean site doesn't call either Cosmog or Zygarde Legendary, but also doesn't give Mythical Pokémon their own section. --SnorlaxMonster 08:14, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Even Ultra Beats were not considered Pokemon... E9310103838 (talk) 09:23, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
@SnorlaxMonster, pretty much what I was going to type.Animaltamer709:24, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
The official site never said they weren't Pokémon, but it never said they were either. Until the game was released (or perhaps more accurately, until the game leaked), we didn't know whether or not they were Pokémon. --SnorlaxMonster 09:25, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
In the GTS, the ultra beasts and tapu WILL NOT BE SHOWN if we choose not to include legendary and mystical pokemon in the option. -Pokeant (talk) 15:33, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
I just looked at this myself and can second this. On top of that, Type: Null and Silvally won't be shown either if you choose not to include Legendary and Mythical Pokemon in the requests from other Trainers. Does this count as a piece of evidence for the Tapus, Ultra Beasts, and Type: Null line being Legendaries? Nintendocan (talk) 02:16, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
For the moment, I see no harm in adding the Tapus to the Legendary section. They can always be taken back out if their classification proves to be incorrect. UB00 (talk) 07:20, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
That's not how we operate. Tiddlywinks (talk) 07:51, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
In that case, we would best be served by making a "disputed Legendaries" subsection for the time being, as mentioned below. UB00 (talk) 06:17, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
That was decided against as seen below - for a "disputed Legendaries" section we'd need a reason not to believe they are other than it wasn't stated against. ----Celadonkey (talk) 13:39, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
I would declare the Tapus legendaries for the reasons stated above plus the fact that when you try to bring up their QR code it says "this is a special pokemon there is no QR code" --Gingerwithasoul (talk) 09:15, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
It has never been officially stated that Pokémon that do not provide QR Codes in the Pokédex are Legendary. In fact, Magearna does not provide one and is not Legendary (being Mythical instead). --SnorlaxMonster 09:52, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
here's some more evidence, the Tapus match Bulbapedia's definition of legendary pokemon "Legendary Pokémon are a group of incredibly rare and often very powerful Pokémon, generally featured prominently in the legends and myths of the Pokémon world." not to mention the game refers to them as "special pokemon" like every other legendary pokemon --Gingerwithasoul (talk) 10:02, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
As I just mentioned, in the context of lacking a QR Code in the Pokédex, "special Pokémon" is not exclusively applied to Legendary Pokémon—it is also used to describe Mythical Pokémon (as well as the 3 sets of Pokémon whose Legendary status is unclear). Bulbapedia's wording is a description, not a definition; Legendary Pokémon are defined by which Pokémon have been officially referred to as Legendary Pokémon. --SnorlaxMonster 10:05, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
So what you're saying is that "special pokemon" are either legendaries or mythicals, and since mythicals can only be obtained via events and the Tapus
can be caught in-game that means that the Tapus are legendaries right? Gingerwithasoul (talk) 10:23, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
(resetting indent)The definitions are fuzzy, and there's been exceptions in the past. It's not really enough to say "it has features of previous legendaries". --Celadonkey 12:26, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
No, I'm saying that the term "special Pokémon" is never defined in this context. There's no reason to assume that only Legendary and Mythical Pokémon qualify as special Pokémon in the context of lacking QR Codes in the Pokédex. There is another entirely separate usage of the term special Pokémon (which is also the predominant usage), but it contradicts the usage in the context of QR Codes in the Pokédex so it would only serve as a distraction to discuss it. --SnorlaxMonster 23:21, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
Maybe the qr argument doesn't stand on its own but with all the other evidence like the fact they play a significant role in the main storyline, they can only be captured once, they cannot breed and they have their own dedicated catching location it seems pretty reasonable to assume that they are legendaries, there's so much evidence for them being legendaries and so little against and your main argument being that since Game Freak hasn't specifically said so therefore all the evidence is null is extremely illogical. Gingerwithasoul (talk) 03:46, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
Waiting for official confirmation is how things work here. We wait for them to announce whether they're legendary or not. We're not going to assume, only to have Game Freak come out and say "lol nope, they're just normal Pokémon".--ForceFire 03:50, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
that argument is a huge appeal to tradition, just because something always happens doesn't mean that it's the right way. Also, if that's the case then I would be interested in knowing when they said that the Regis are definitely legendaries or the Lake Guardians or any other group of legendaries Gingerwithasoul (talk) 04:28, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
This aspect is not up for any sort of argument or discussion: we do not assume. Period.
Something like the Bank HA Regi announcement is the easiest reference I know, but I'm sure there are a number of others. It's not remotely worth finding similar references for anything else beyond that "proof of concept", because this discussion is about not about all those others. Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:41, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
did you really just assume that these sources exist after we were told we're not allowed to assume? if you're going to debate please be consistent Gingerwithasoul (talk) 04:48, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
Your questioning of every other Legendary Pokemon's status—including your reaction immediately above—is nothing but a tactic of distraction. It's not worth a substantive response. Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:53, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
I actually already did look for confirmation of the status of every Legendary and Mythical Pokémon when we were splitting Mythical Pokémon from this article. You can find sources for every single Legendary and Mythical Pokémon (that existed in Gen VI) here. (Note that some of the links, specifically the pokemonblackwhite.com links, are now no longer available, so you'll need to use Wayback Machine or a similar service to access them.) --SnorlaxMonster 07:23, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
Disputed legendaries section
There's a lot of debate on Legendary status of newly introduced Guardian deities, Ultra Beasts and Type: Null/Silvally (two sections above et all) as well the old debate on Manaphy and Phione. Do you think it'd be a good idea to add a section describing that dispute as well as explaining the stance Bulbapedia has taken on the subject? That would help to avoid potential debates and edit wars. Phione Trivia section is an example of how it could look like. — ∀ЫъГЬ ∃Talk page 13:55, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
Makes perfect sense to me, as this debate is till going, I sure the Admins will also be willing tog having a disputing Pokemon page, soundalike a good idea.--Jacob Kogan (talk) 13:57, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
I would personally keep it under discussion, as this isn't a long standing debate like Phione. It'll most likely be confirmed within the next month or so considering it is already nearly confirmed. Also, Jacob: try to use colons before your posts so that they are staircased - one more than the previous posts.----Celadonkey (talk) 14:05, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
Got it Celadoneky. I will be sure to remember that. --Jacob Kogan (talk) 14:36, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
Phione actually has evidence for and evidence against listed. To create such a section here would require evidence against them being Legendary Pokémon—what evidence would that be? --SnorlaxMonster 14:53, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
But didn't the discussion above end with the conclusion they are not? With the major argument being Official site does not explicitly names them as such. Or did you mean the opposite? The argument that supports their status as Legendary Pokemon would be the GTS search filter. — ∀ЫъГЬ ∃Talk page
Official site not explicitly naming them as such is a lack of evidence for, not evidence against. I already pointed out above why the official site cannot currently be relied upon to definitively say something isn't Legendary yet (although once it is properly updated we should be able to). --SnorlaxMonster 11:29, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
However, when Guardian deities, Ultra Beasts, and Type: Null/Silvally register in the Pokedex, they will not show up as legendary Pokémon. So they are still some degree of controversy as legendary Pokémon, I think. E9310103838 (talk) 13:50, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
Again, that's a lack of evidence for, not evidence against. The point is is that it isn't an established controversy, like Phione. ----Celadonkey (talk) 14:01, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
Additionally, the message Rotom Pokédex gives for all of them is a special message. If it just gave a generic message, I think that would be reasonable evidence against. Instead, it has a special message that is used instead of the Legendary Pokémon message. --SnorlaxMonster 09:22, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
So the game is undeniably, definititively stating that they are all legendary. May I add them to the page now? Nutter Butter (talk) 00:44, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
I'd say so, but we'd have to wait for mod approval, as sometimes they say something completely different than expected. ----Celadonkey (talk) 01:23, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
According to Abcboy, a Bulbapedia Administrator, two sections above: The staff have decided that since the games don't explicitly refer to these Pokémon as Legendary, they should not be referred to as Legendary until and if an official source explicitly describes them as such. Since this is the most recent official word from the staff as a whole, that's what we need to follow until they reconsider, if/when they do. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 06:03, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
If we're following that, we now have an official source stating that they are legendary (the GTS), so it can be added. Nutter Butter (talk) 03:11, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
The GTS excludes Legendaries and Mythicals, but does not otherwise distinguish those groups. We will continue to wait for a source that clearly gives these Pokemon only one of those labels.
(I'd like to suggest that, going forward, anyone who thinks they have proof and is itching to make edits try contacting a staff member directly if there's no particular response here. Thanks.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 05:43, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
Sub-legendaries
I've heard on the internet that the Tapus, Nullvally, and Ultra Beasts are included as a classification known as sub-legendaries in the game's code. What is interesting is that the "lesser trios" (i.e. Musketeers, Birds), as well as other minor legendaries such as the Latis and Heatran are grouped alongside them as sub-legendaries. Can someone confirm this for me, and in that case does this call for a massive overhaul to the legendary page? Or should we wait till January for Pokebank to finally make things clear?--Geektreecko (talk) 03:23, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Outside of game mechanics, details obtained by rooting around in the game's code are not considered an official source. I'm not sure exactly the rationale for this, but edits have been reverted before for it. Xolroc (talk) 03:30, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Oh! In that case, is the National Dex considered an official source? Assuming that when released it follows the format of the SM dex as well as the game code, it will likely group this generation's disputed legends and previous generations' minor legends under the green page background. Would that provide enough evidence to create a new grouping called sub-legends, and also give a conclusion as to the disputed legends' identity?--Geektreecko (talk) 03:47, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
See this talk page section for my response to this rumor. As for the Pokédex, as you can tell when you catch Island Scan Pokémon, the National Pokédex just isn't in the game. --SnorlaxMonster 03:58, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Not sure if it's been officially confirmed, but I seem to recall hearing that the national dex is going to be released along with the pokemon bank update. Don't know if you can really say it just isn't in the game--seems more like the way to unlock it just doesn't exist yet! Xolroc (talk) 04:10, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
The National Pokédex will be in Pokémon Bank itself, rather than Pokémon Sun and Moon (based on officially announced information and the game data). For example, the Pokédex sprites used for Alola Pokédex Pokémon simply don't exist for non-Alola Pokédex Pokémon. ---SnorlaxMonster 04:38, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Legendary Disputes Part X
The Tapus, UBs, and Type: Null Line, are still in dispute - whether it may be game mechanic or folklore factors. Those two factors do prove that they are though. Folklore of course, undeniably speak of the Tapus and UBs as legends. Type: Null and Sillvally's stature may be postulated with the existence of the Cosmog Line, such that they can perform evolution, and Mewtwo, that they are artificially made. The game's code itself also prove it though. But let me say first that the non-prohibition of these Pokémon in Battle Institutions are very lousy proofs, since multiple minor legendaries are allowed. But one thing's for sure. The GTS. It has a systematic sieve, an option to filter out Legends and Mythicals. In reason: Only Legendaries and Mythicals can be filtered out of the GTS. The Tapus, UBs, the Type: Null Line can be filtered out in the GTS. Therefore, these are Legendary Pokémon. Phiraptor28 (talk) 18:19, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Your logic is faulty, and this has already been addressed on this very same page. The GTS filter means they are either Legendaries or Mythicals, but we don't know which. We won't be labeling them as one or the other until they have been officially labeled so we know which label to use. (You can see a staff member, Tiddlywinks, say this exact same thing in the last comment of the subheader "Disputed legendaries section" above, timestamped 05:43, 17 December 2016.) Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 18:38, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
We have to wait for Nintendo to confirm it--Jacob Kogan (talk) 18:44, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
I hate to be a bother, but you're missing the colons I had told you about earlier... ----Celadonkey 19:53, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
"The GTS filter means they are either Legendaries or Mythicals, but we don't know which"—well, they're obviously not Mythicals, so, by using the process of elemination, we can conclude that they must be Legendaries. Therefore, the GTS should be enough to prove that they are Legendaries; however, it seems like the staff wants to wait for official confirmation, which I can understand, even if I disagree. But, I haven't found any official confirmation for Marshadow either, so by that logic, shouldn't we delete that article? —MartinZ (talk) 20:08, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Marshadow is in the games. Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:48, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
I think MartinZ's point was that they haven't been officially confirmed to exist. IIRC, in Gen VI, we didn't have pages for Diancie, Hoopa, or Volcanion until they were announced. ----Celadonkey 01:10, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Per Talk:Marshadow (Pokémon)#Officially Revealed?, that's because at that time, datamining for the 3DS wasn't yet verifiable by the staff, so it was unknown whether those Pokemon actually existed or were being faked. The staff are now able to verify 3DS datamining, so Marshadow has its own page because it's confirmed to exist in the Sun and Moon data. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 01:39, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Should we state that it is currently unconfirmed if Necrozma forms a group with Solgaleo and Lunala, much like with Zygarde? There is a lot of evidence to indicate a relation between the three, but aside from the file name for Necrozma's picture (which itself is somewhat vague) nothing has been officially confirmed yet. --Geektreecko (talk) 00:33, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Agreed, it might turn out like with Zygarde where they might probably never officially state that their a trio. Animaltamer708:34, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
I think that it's unnecessary and unencyclopedic to state that something is not known, the fact that it says nothing here should suffice that we simply don't know. --Raltseye prata med mej 11:24, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
I was thinking about the unseen tag like the one for zygarde.Animaltamer711:40, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Shiny backgrounds in Pokémon Bank
Since Pokémon Bank is out, I got my Pokémon registered in the National Dex within, and apparently there's shiny backgrounds on the following Pokémon. I split them between Legendary and Mythical for readability, but they are all in a similar style:
Legendary: Lugia, Ho-Oh, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zygarde, Cosmog, Cosmoem, Solgaleo, Lunala, Necrozma.
Mythical: Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus, Victini, Keldeo, Meloetta, Genesect, Diancie, Hoopa, Volcanion, Magearna.
What's notable here is that the Legendary are all Special Pokémon, but Mewtwo is the only Special Pokémon without a shiny background. Of the Mythicals, Phione doesn't have the shiny background, and I don't have a Marshadow to check. I'm not sure how this affects the definition of Special Pokémon, Legendaries, and Mythicals, but it's interesting that they singled out these Pokémon from the rest.- unsigned comment from RHeegaard (talk • contribs)
Whoops, just noticed I forgot to sign my comment above! - RHeegaard (talk) 03:54, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
And all the other legendary Pokémon get... nothing. But while this doesn't help to prove or disprove the Tapus' or the Ultra Beasts' legendary status, it could be another Evidence Against Phione. --Celadonkey 13:00, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
I don't have Pokemon Bank, so for clarification, may I ask: what color are the backgrounds of all of the above Pokemon? And what color are the backgrounds of all the other Legendaries that aren't listed (and Phione)? Are all of them yellow*, or are the above ones yellow and the unlisted ones green? If the latter, that may be decisive evidence that the background color indicates Special/non-Special, and that the tapus, Type:Null, and UBs are non-Special but Legendary. If the unlisted ones are yellow as well, though, the plot thickens and the green background still has no obvious explanation. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:34, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
All Pokémon RHeegard named have a shine under their picture. All other legendary Pokémon have nothing to differentiate them from regular Pokémon. --Celadonkey 16:44, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
So all other Legendaries have blue backgrounds?!? That makes even less sense... Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:49, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
The color of the background corresponds to the Pokémon's types. Mythical and Special Legendary Pokémon (except Mewtwo and Phione) also have a shine effect on the background. --SnorlaxMonster 16:51, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
OK, so the backgrounds in Bank have no correspondence to the backgrounds in Sun/Moon? Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:52, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, it looks completely different. Gives us nearly no info at all :T --Celadonkey 16:54, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Also, if you missed it, RHeegard's distinction between Legendary and Mythical is his own - Pokebank's Dex doesn't show a difference between them. Plasma (talk) 22:43, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
What's most surprising is that Mewtwo does not have a shine background. Overall though, it implies that Gamefreak is pretty serious about plans to make Legendaries and Sub/Semi-Legendaries separate categories.Plasma (talk) 22:43, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
I don't think I like that, especially as someone who still considers Mythicals Legendary. ----Celadonkey 01:12, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
Cosmog line
Should we have a page for the Cosmog line? We have a page for every other legendary group. --Celadonkey 18:58, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
Just make the duo page and add notes there: Game mascot#Generation VII. Tiddlywinks (talk) 19:01, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
Type:Null, UB's, and Tapus Revisited
The official Pokémon site says that Mythical and Some Legendaries are not allowed in VGC. Thus, there are some Legendary Pokémon that ARE allowed, but all Mythical Pokémon are NOT allowed. [2]
We have already determined that Type:Null/Silvally, UB's, and the Tapus are either Mythical or Legendary.
They are allowed in VGC, which rules out them being Mythical. By process of elimination, they're legendary. --Celadonkey 20:17, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
That doesn't confirm anything. Ataro (talk) 20:58, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
It seems quite obvious to me, but you're the staff :v could you explain? --Celadonkey 21:07, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
Indeed those two facts make all of them objectively legendaries, period (unfortunately logical thinking is not the strongest point of everyone here). The only possible counterargument here is that at least one those facts is incorrect, and even in that case, it should be justified for us to trust official statements as long as we can't prove they're false. Finally, I hope personal biases like "Type: Null just can't be a legendary! GTS must be lying!" aren't stalling this...--電禅Den Zen 22:25, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
So is it ok to say that they're legendary now? I don't want to edit anything w/o confirmation from a mod. --Celadonkey 22:30, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
FWIW, a very explicit, unambiguous statement is always *best*. Taking the twist and turns of inference always leaves a door for some mistake somewhere, somehow (and I don't mean by the inferrers).
That said, I understand the logic and can't argue it. Just, like I said, I would personally be happiest to have a very explicit attribution. Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:33, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, I can understand that you, being a mod, would like that. No worries. --Celadonkey 22:37, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
Alright, so I'm going to go ahead and edit all of the pages to conform to this in a half an hour or so, if it's ok with you guys. --Celadonkey 22:58, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
...Tell you what. How about we call it 24 hours instead? A little patience won't hurt you. Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:09, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
Cool, thanks. (Also thanks for being a nice mod! I've been on a lot of websites where the mods are like dictators.) --Celadonkey 23:11, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
I'd also like to note that I don't think the only supposed counterevidence, "All Mythical and Legendary Pokémon are not allowed" from the rules of Alola Friendly, is not counterevidence at all. "Mythical and Legendary Pokémon are not allowed" sure would be, but if I'm correct, the word "all" in the beginning means some legendaries are allowed in that competition (and those are the three groups).--電禅Den Zen 10:09, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
"All Mythical and Legendary Pokémon are not allowed" means "there are no Mythical or Legendary Pokémon that are allowed". "Not all Mythical and Legendary Pokémon are allowed" would mean what you seem to be interpreting it as. --SnorlaxMonster 10:28, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
I think Dennou reads it as "(All Mythical) and [~unspecified] Legendary Pokémon are not allowed" rather than "All (Mythical and Legendary) are not allowed".
Also, I'd like to add that the opposite/negation of "All X are not allowed" is not "Some X are allowed", but "Some or none X are allowed". Nescientist (talk) 11:14, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
Of course "not all X are Y" would the most unambiguous way to say it, but my research supports that "all X are not Y" can indeed mean the same thing (but also that "no X are Y"); specifically, how "all X are not Y" is interpreted seems to depend on the region of the speaker or the emphasized word. And since there's other evidence for and no other evidence against them, I think it's fair to assume they indeed mean "not all X are Y" (in other words, that T:N, Silvally, Tapus, and UBs are all Legendary yet are allowed in the competition).--電禅Den Zen 11:34, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
I think that "All Mythical and Legendary Pokémon" implies that "all" applies to both Mythical and Legendary, but as the same wording was deliberately changed to "All Mythical and Some Legendary" on the VGC rules I'd say that's the most accurate. --Celadonkey 15:18, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
Just coming in to veto the 24 hour wait, and change that to until the staff has made a decision. Not to sound too harsh, but I really dislike this "I'm going to add it if no one responds" attitude. I know this has been going on for months, but Game Freak isn't really making it easy with their inconsistent word usage. So please, if there's still patience, wait until the staff gives you the all clear, regardless of if it's 24 hours or one year from now.--ForceFire 15:29, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
I said "if it's ok with you guys", not "if nobody responds". But yeah, that's ok. Just make sure to let us know. --Celadonkey 15:35, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
Legendaries such as the bird trio, beast trio, force of nature etc had always been allowed in tournaments. im sure they are trying to refer to Special Pokémon. The japan website just list those not permitted instead of referring to any group. but of course, we cannot just assume -Pokeant (talk) 17:01, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
Elaborating on Dennou's earlier comment - I just realized, the Alola Friendly counterevidence doesn't really mean anything at all. It directly contradicts the GTS - if Type: Null and friends are allowed, and "all Mythical and Legendary Pokemon are banned", then they can't be mythical either. --Celadonkey 18:57, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
on a side note, the japanese wiki included these in their article. of course bulbapedia have different staff and rules but just a note -Pokeant (talk) 04:34, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
Yes, same with the French website, but all of the wikis are independent, so it shouldn't matter. --Celadonkey 14:22, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
The Kanto X Alola Regional Rumble doesn't ban anything that isn't Mewtwo, Mew, Cosmog, Cosmoem, Solgaleo, Lunala, Necrozma, and Magearna. In other words, not only are the Silvally line, Tapu, and UBs not banned as before... but the Legendary Birds are not banned either. Shiramu Kuromu (talk) 00:18, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
I don't think this means anything... It doesn't say anything about Legendary or Mythical Pokémon, it just lists the banned ones. --Celadonkey 01:21, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
The main evidence against the gang from being legendary is this: "apparently Japanese versions do not say on GTS that those groups are legendary (or mythical), only that they're special Pokémon, so it's too early to say which of them are legendary" (Dennou Zenshi) I may or may not investigate this on my own.
My own opinion is that this should not influence the decision, because the same section in English mentions "Do you want to include people who are seeking Mythical or Legendary Pokemon" and when "don't include" is selected, already established legendaries and mythicals are excluded as well as the gang in question, and since this is an English wiki and since in the past borders between legendary Pokemon have been different than in Japanese, we should go by the English. --Celadonkey 01:29, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
I forgot to add, but the Japanese GTS thing isn't evidence for either side, so I don't think it should really matter.
With all of this said, it is the mods' decision. --Celadonkey 01:55, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
It's a game originating from Japan. They made the game. They make the rules. So yes, the Japanese text has just as much relevance to deciding (I might in fact go as far as their decision is absolute) what is and isn't a legendary/mythical.--ForceFire 03:46, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
Except, that in this case, it seems that the Japanese GTS is more vague than absolute. If the Japanese games are not calling them Legends or Illusory, then it seems like the other languages might be more relevant at this time. --Super goku (talk) 05:47, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
(resetting indent) Can I just ask what we're even having this argument about at this point? If the English GTS says they're either Legendary or Mythical but doesn't clarify which one, and the Japanese one says they're Special but doesn't mention anything about Legendary or Mythical, then that seems to put us back exactly where we started — knowing they're either Legendary or Mythical, but not knowing anything more than that. This back-and-forth-ing over the Japanese GTS seems to be a lot of hand-wringing over nothing to me. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 06:26, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
English GTS says "Legendary and Mythical Pokémon" are excluded with filter. Japanese GTS says "special Pokémon", but we don't know what this means, since they are not referring to Special Pokémon that we know. From this, we can conlude that the gang in question are either Mythical or Legendary, which we have been doing until this point was brought up: Rules for VGC 2017 say that "All Mythical and some Legendary Pokémon" are banned. The gang is not banned.
In response to ForceFire's comment: I don't think Japanese decision is absolute if they don't tell us the decision that they've made. All it says is "special Pokémon", and since it isn't referring to box legends and Mewtwo, since Pokémon like Entei are blocked by the filter, it doesn't tell us anything. It's non-evidence. --Celadonkey 12:11, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
Just realized, I didn't even answer your question, whoops. The argument is over whether these guys are legendary or not. --Celadonkey 13:11, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
After some research... I'm not 100% sure, but it looks like the Japanese GTS says "幻や 伝説ポケモンを\nほしがっている 人を". (I'm not sure what "\n" is, I copied this from the Japanese text dump on abcboy's page.) I definitely see "伝説" (Legendary) and "幻" (Illusory, the term Japan uses for Mythicals). And yes, Type:Null and the gang are still excluded when the filter is on. --Celadonkey 16:38, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
It's about this simple: as a matter of current policy, we're not satisfied by the current extent of revealed information. In other words, continuing to argue over the same current set of facts will go precisely nowhere. We know everything you do and are unwilling to make the jump.
If something new (especially direct, like "X is Legendary") pops up, feel free to mention that, please. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:55, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
That's fair, thank you. --Celadonkey 16:57, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
I don't mean to start an argument, but why are you not satisfied? It would help me to know your train of thought for the future, and I'm curious. --Celadonkey 19:52, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
The simplest answer is probably that direct evidence is best. Tiddlywinks (talk) 20:12, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
That's fair, but what's the limit of what's good enough? I don't understand why a big tournament where "Mythical and some Legendaries are banned" and the gang not being banned, plus the gang being excluded from a filter that excludes "mythical and legendaries", is too vague for Bulbapedia.
Please pardon me if I'm a little rude, I'm just very confused why new points and rules keep being brought up every time we get closer to making a change. --Celadonkey 20:19, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
Sorry if I'm making an assumption, but it sounds to me like "deduced based on separate sources" is not good enough, whereas "a single source" would be unambiguously acceptable. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 20:37, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
If that is the case, that seems very silly. As Den Zen pointed out, logic may not be the strongest suit of the users of the Internet, but simple logic puzzles like this case shouldn't be shelved just for having two parts to it. I mean, it's one thing if it's a string of convoluted, conspiracy-esque sources, like how you would see boards in rooms with newspaper clippings and string, but this isn't like that. --Celadonkey 20:52, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
(resetting indent) Guys, just give up. Look at how lengthy this discussion is and ask yourselves, "are we even close to a solution or we'll have to keep posting messages until this thread gets long enough that we can publish a series of novels about it?" We don't have solid evidence stating that these Pokémon are Legendary or Mythical. We can't label them as such until we have a more concrete source. GTS filters are not enough when Phione has been referred to as a Mythical Pokémon by a large number of sources from Generation V onwards and we still say its Mythical status is disputed due to a Prima Guide from a decade ago!!! If Phione's case is not moving forward, I don't know why you insist on this. --Mikuri 21:10, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
I respectfully disagree.
Phione is... a different case. Phione has had lots of sources left and right saying "it's mythical" "it's not mythical" etc. There's a bunch of evidence for the Pokemon in question here being Legendary, and the only source against it has a wording that was used again after it, with the same Pokemon being restricted, yet it was revoked and changed.
And anyways, the talk page is meant for discussion like this. We may be close to a solution. We may not be. I believe that there is enough evidence for the case, and too little and not reputable enough evidence against it, to reasonably say that they are Legendary. I'm going to keep pushing forward until either a change has been made or I can understand the decision for the change not to be made. --Celadonkey 21:27, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
Can it not be assumed that since there are no mythical or legendary Pokemon (minus Phione, Cosmog and Cosmoem), with a base stat under 580 and that in the Sun and Moon pokedex, they have a green background instead of the same one as confirmed legendaries, that they are therefore their own group. Could they not be defined as something like "Unique Pokemon" like Unown? LanceDrake286 (talk) 22:55, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
Kind of like saying only Legendary Pokemon have unique battle music and- OH WAIT; Type: Null and Silvally share Gladion's theme with him, and the Tapu and UBs have their own separate music used solely among themselves. Shiramu Kuromu (talk) 23:17, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
Unown are not "defined as unique Pokemon". They are, for wiki purposes, in the same category as any other non- Legendary or Mythical Pokemon. Either way, we can't assume what's Legendary or Mythical and what's not based on traits, especially if you have to make exceptions. It would be like if you were to say that Solgaleo and Lunala can't be legendaries, because they evolve from a Pokemon. --Celadonkey 00:31, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
A couple things I forgot to mention:
First of all, there actually is a confirmed Legendary Pokemon that's under 580 BST. It's 50% Zygarde.
Second of all, I'm going to stop pushing for the change with the current set of information. I've talked with staff and I now understand the decision that they've made much more. I will bring up any new evidence that comes up. I have faith in GAME FREAK that they will officially, explicitly mention these Pokémon as Legendary, as they have with previous Legendaries. --Celadonkey 00:49, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
I'm not sure if a specific form of a legendary can be counted as an exception to my 580 BST idea but I do agree that since there are a few exceptions, it's not 100% true.LanceDrake286 (talk) 01:30, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
to help end this I propose a criteria for counting a pokemon as a legendary
-the pokemon must have storyline/lore relevance
-the pokemon must not be able to be replicated by breeding
-the pokemon must only be able to be captured once Gingerwithasoul (talk) 02:11, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
The sentiment is appreciated, but Legendary is an official classification of Pokémon, and since no official sources give us a criteria for this classification, it's up to those official sources to tell us whether Pokémon are Legendary or not. We simply aren't in a position where we can make those kinds of assertions without compromising the accuracy and integrity of Bulbapedia. --Haddady ~Straight Outta the Bag~ 02:50, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
This might be me being pedantic, but even if we were to use fan criteria (which we won't), those criteria aren't really that good.
Point 1 - The Legendary Birds have never had any lore in the games. Neither has Necrozma. There are a few other confirmed Legendaries that don't fit that either.
Point 3 - Would this make Nihilego and Guzzlord Legendary, but no other UBs? Also, that would exclude Solgaleo or Lunala, confirmed Legendaries.
Either way, we're not using fan criteria for our pages, especially with something with as much gravity as this. --Celadonkey 12:07, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
The Tapu, UB, Null and Silvally ARE Legendary. I have proof.
I'd just like to point out part of the VGC 2017 rules downloaded from here:
5.2. Case 2 – Severe Tier 2
o Any Legendary or Mythical Pokémon (with the black clover) that has Hidden Power as a Fighting-type move.
That's part of the manual hack checking appendix. It essentially means that they are Legendary or Mythical, as this appendix lists everything the electronic hack check misses, the Pokémon in question can't have HP Fighting, and if they AREN'T Legendary or Mythical, then they CAN have HP Fighting, as then this clause wouldn't apply, so HP Fighting would be possible in-game without hacking, and they defiantly can't catch impossible HP Fighting on Pokémon using the electronic hack check. We also have the official statement that NO Mythical Pokémon are in VGC 2017 and SOME Legendary Pokémon ARE in VGC to eliminate the possibility that they're Mythical. This is also an official source stating that the minimum 3 31 IVs thing is still exclusive to Mythical and Legendary Pokemon. Oh, and if they AREN'T Legendary because purely of the statement from the Alola Friendly, then the statement that you can't use Mythical or Legendary Pokemon in {insert name of any battle facility} in the games themselves eliminates the Legendary Birds, Legendary Beasts, Legendary titans, Lake Guardians, Cresselia, Heatran, the Swords of Justice and the Forces of Nature from being Legendary by the same logic. PartHunter (talk) 13:48, 13 March 2017 (UTC), wondering why this is so hard to make a decision on.
I think the issue is not whether they are Legendary or not, but whether they are Legendary or Mythical. --Celadonkey 14:05, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
Nothing on that page says "VGC 2017"... The appropriate link is "Play! Pokemon VG Rules and Formats". (Just as a suggestion, maybe try to be more exact about how you're referring to links in the future.)
That guide as it sits has a pretty serious flaw: it doesn't define the Mythical and Legendary Pokemon. How's a checker supposed to know who they have to check and who not? That's really not an arbitrary question. Either it's up to each checker (in which case, say...maybe the UBs aren't Legendary because, pssh, there's no way you'd ever be able to get multiple of a Legendary Pokemon in the same game, of course), or they have to have some criteria that each person can obey to reliably reach the same conclusions.
If VGC anywhere states which Pokemon are considered Mythical or Legendary, that'd be absolutely GREAT. In the meantime, it's probably (i.e., I haven't asked at the moment, but, given the standing decision) not satisfactory for us to assume who that is, even if the explanation seems apparent. If they will explicitly state something and then change it, it's one thing for us to follow that and turn out wrong for that reason; if they haven't explicitly stated it, then if they make a clear statement later that's contradictory, we'll just end up looking the fools. Tiddlywinks (talk) 14:17, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
If the VGC checkers can decide for themselves who's legendary and who's not, that would be kind of silly, because then either legal Pokémon would be blocked, or illegal Pokémon would get through. I would think that they would either have a list of legendaries, or a list of legendary criteria. It would be wonderful if we could somehow get our hands on either. --Celadonkey 14:31, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
I'd like to point out that in Pokémon X and Y, Baby Pokémon caught in the wild are guaranteed to have three random IVs of 31 due to their inclusion in the Undiscovered Egg Group so at a point in time the 3 31 IVs thing was not true. Additionally the Ash Greninja received from the Special Demo Version also comes with guaranteed 3 31 IVs that are locked to Attack, Special Attack and Speed and it is definitely not a legendary mythical pokemon but it IS in the undiscovered egg group. LanceDrake286 (talk) 17:32, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
This debate on Potential Legedary is one of the biggest discussions ones I have ever seen on topic. And Ash Greninja is a special one of kind Pokémon like the Type: Null and Silvally.--Jacob Kogan (talk) 17:41, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
sigh* Please don't bring up something completely unrelated to derail the discussion. Ash-Greninja is a form. That's all, period. It has nothing to do with this debate. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 17:45, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
LanceDrake- I think it was a glitch in X and Y. And the Ash Greninja thing, and it wasn't mentioned but this applies to Gen I VC Pokémon too, is a special case. All of those Pokémon are available with normal IVs. However, all Legendary and Mythical Pokémon are always guaranteed to have 3 perfect IVs, without hacking. And as was pointed out before, it has been officially confirmed that all Legendaries and Mythicals have 3 perfect IVs.
Anyways, it's been acknowledged by staff that the Pokémon in question are for sure either Legendary or Mythical. The question is, which. And at this point there's nothing (or at least I don't think there's anything) that falls in line with the staff's guidelines and expectations. --Celadonkey 18:02, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
Ash Greninja was brought up to help disprove the above theory stating the 3 31 IVs thing was EXCLUSIVE to mythical and legendary pokémon. It's not unrelated to said discussion in any way.
Can I ask for a link to the official statement as well? It would help my understanding here. LanceDrake286 (talk) 18:16, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
it said that all mythicals and legendaries always have 3 perfect IVs, not that ONLY mythicals and legendaries have 3 perfect IVs. --Celadonkey 18:49, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
So, how is it a question whether the tapu and the Type: Null line are legendary or mythical? They're not event exclusive and not banned from online competitions, so they're not Mythical. Ergo, if they can only be either Legendaries or Mythicals, they have to be Legendaries. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 21:30, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
I'm mostly going to repeat what I said above:
As a matter of current policy, we're not satisfied by the current extent of revealed information. We know everything you do and are unwilling to make the jump. (...With the possible exception of this latest info, which hasn't had time to be inspected much by staff. But I wouldn't expect it to change our official stance.)
If something new (especially direct, like "X is Legendary") pops up, feel free to mention that, please.
Like I said: this is our current "policy". I understand exactly where the "A & B = Legendary" people are coming from; but this is Bulbapedia. You're welcome to disagree—to be disgusted with us over it—but there are times when we very much prefer an abundance of caution. Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:39, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
Wouldn't this apply to the Legendary Birds, beats, Titians, Spirits, three of the Swords of Justice, and others I can name. As they aren't banned from Tournaments like the Ultra Beasts, tapu and the Type: Null line as mentioned before?--Jacob Kogan (talk) 00:26, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
Those are already confirmed to be Legendary. We don't need another source to reaffirm they are. --Celadonkey 01:30, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
This is also an official source stating that the minimum 3 31 IVs thing is still exclusive to Mythical and Legendary Pokemon. - No it's not. The manual hack check is not exhaustive (it would be pretty hard to write a human-readable document that is). This statement says that if it is Mythical or Legendary, a Pokémon cannot have Hidden Power Fighting; it says nothing about the opposite.
Oh, and if they AREN'T Legendary because purely of the statement from the Alola Friendly, then the statement that you can't use Mythical or Legendary Pokemon in {insert name of any battle facility} in the games themselves eliminates the [snipped] from being Legendary by the same logic. - Where does the game ever claim that you cannot use Mythical or Legendary Pokémon in battle facilities? To my knowledge, there is always a specific list of Pokémon you cannot use (often including Eggs).
Now, the existence of this point is interesting, because it implies that judges know which Pokémon are considered Mythical or Legendary. However, I believe that only public rule documents can be enforced in official tournaments, so exactly how they determine this should be looked into. --SnorlaxMonster 01:57, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
I talked with a VGC Judge and he said that nobody knows which Pokémon are legendary and the same discussion went on in their private forums. They decided to disregard the rule that says that legendary and mythical Pokémon can't have fighting Hidden Power, and instead have it as Pokémon who are guaranteed to have 3 IVs cannot have Fighting Hidden Power, as they couldn't figure out what was legendary and what wasn't. --Celadonkey 11:09, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
This is a quote from the PWT, accessed by talking to the red attendant, selecting info and selecting the Kanto Leaders Tournament:
"Kanto Leaders Tournament is a tournament in which Gym Leaders from Kanto are participating. You may not have duplicate Pokémon or duplicate held items. The item Soul Dew and the move Sky Drop are banned. Legendary or mythical Pokémon may not participate, either. For these battles, all Pokémon will be set to Level 50. The winner will be awarded with a little more BP than usual. Good luck!"
And yet some Legendary Pokémon CAN participate in this tournament, the ones listed above. The games use that line in other places, too. The description for the Kanto X Alola Regional Rumble download rules says "Only Alola Pokédex and Kanto Pokédex can be used. Legendary and Mythical Pokémon are banned.", as well, yet confirmed legendaries, the Legendary Birds, are allowed in it. The X and Y Baby Pokémon thing never prevented HP Fighting, as it didn't prevent HATCHING those Pokémon with 2 or fewer 31 IVs. And if you're just going to say "use caution", there are videos on YouTube complaining about it, so maybe we should at least do somthing on the page to add more about them, like how Phione is on the Mythical Pokémon page. There is such a thing as being too cautious. And this debate is pretty dumb, as all the against camp has in evidence and arguments is a single quote from a source that isn't even all that reliable for this kind of thing, and a general "be cautious" thing. Also, while the manual hack checking isn't exhaustive, since it bothers to worry about Hidden Power's type at all then the descriptor for the rule about Hidden Power's type IS almost certainly comprehensive, and Gen I Pokémon and Ash-Greninja are not relevant, as they aren't even legal in VGC, so the manual hack check does not have to account for them. (Also, Ash-Greninja is easy, as only a single IV spread is legal for it, so Hidden Power is fixed and the automatic hack check can probably easily verify the legality of it because of this, since all it has to do is confirm that all the IVs match the single legal spread, not calculate Hidden Power's type, which is a significantly less efficient thing to do, and would slow the hack check down while using up more memory.) PartHunter (talk) 12:17, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
P.S. I would have directly linked the rules, but clicking on the link to them automatically starts a file download, so I can't provide a direct link, as none appears in the browser to copy. PartHunter (talk) 12:19, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
While I mostly agree, the "be cautious" thing is an important tenet on Bulbapedia. I believe that there is evidence enough to prove so, but I understand that a rule like "if you can't be 100% sure, it doesn't belong yet" applies. --Celadonkey 13:35, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Those PWT rules seems a bit vague, but the Kanto X Alola Regional Rumble download rules are quite explicit. I don't really know what to say about them though, since while it indicates the Battle of Alola rules are suspect, it's also not confirmation in the other direction (since we weren't prepared to call them Legendary Pokémon even before finding that piece of evidence).
"Also, while the manual hack checking isn't exhaustive, since it bothers to worry about Hidden Power's type at all then the descriptor for the rule about Hidden Power's type IS almost certainly comprehensive" - I don't understand how you draw this conclusion at all. The manual hack check also covers illegal Poké Balls, but that doesn't mean it covers every single possible case (it doesn't). The fact that it mentions some property is illegal on some Pokémon doesn't mean that it covers every single possible time that is illegal.
Anyway, I asked Pokémon support and got the following response:
"In the "2017 Pokémon VGC Rules, Format, and Penalty Guidelines" document, Manual Hack Checking Appendix - Case 2 specifies that a penalty will be issued for "Any Legendary or Mythical Pokémon (with the black clover) that has Hidden Power as a Fighting-type move. Which Pokémon that are permitted in the current format are considered Legendary or Mythical Pokémon? I cannot find any indication of this in the games themselves or other rule documents."
"While we are not in a position to discuss the legality of Pokémon overall, Pokémon are illegal if they are flagged by the electronic hack check or violate one of the rules in section 5 of the VGC rules."
I was really hoping this would resolve the discussion, but they're being deliberately evasive... --SnorlaxMonster 22:49, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Wait, how'd you contact Pokemon support? I've been trying to find a way to do that, but the best I could do was contact a Pokemon Professor (VGC judge, he said he had the same issue). --Celadonkey 23:00, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
http://support.pokemon.com --SnorlaxMonster 00:09, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
On bulbapedia, listing things that aren't yet facts on the pages isn't accepted. Furthermore, additional proof against the argument is the Rotom Pokédex never explicitly saying any of the specified pokémon are legendary while it does mention when confirmed legendaries and mythicals are added. There's also the gold backgrounds being present for confirmed Legendary and Mythical pokémon while these unique or special pokémon do not.
The only way for us to ascertain whether they are legendary or not is if the TPC explicitly states it to be so. Everything else is speculation until then. LanceDrake286 (talk) 16:28, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
Anime evidence?
Some of the translated summaries of SM019 outright state that Tapu Koko (so by extension, all the Tapus) are legendary, as seen here. Does this provide enough proof?--Geektreecko (talk) 03:13, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
I'm fairly certain an official statement cannot be taken from a translated summary of something that happens in the anime. Do the summaries still call them legendary pokémon in Japanese. There's also the matter of the anime itself not calling them legendary, only a translation of a summary. LanceDrake286 (talk) 16:39, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
The summary indeed uses the Japanese word for Legendary Pokémon for Tapu Koko and it should be added to the "evidence for" section. Though I wouldn't say this is enough proof to start calling Tapus legendaries in Bulbapedia. It could be just anime writers or whoever wrote summary assuming they're legendaries wihout knowing for sure.--電禅Den Zen 16:46, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
Random question: If the anime were to explicitly call Tapu Koko a legendary, would that apply to the other tapus too, or just Koko? --Celadonkey 11:56, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
The episodes with Tapu Koko now have the "List of Episodes where a Legendary Pokémon appears" category, though the Tapus are still not listed as Legendary Pokémon otherwise. Frankly, I'm not too sure if we should use the anime as a source for confirming if a Pokémon is Legendary or not, given M03 states that Unown are Legendary (even if that was just a case of Early Instalment Weirdness). UxieLover1994 (talk) 23:10, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
We use the anime for a lot of things, like Lugia being the trio master of the birds, or Zygarde being a part of a trio with XY. It's likely that Unown is a case of Early Installment Weirdness. But I agree that we can't yet assume Tapu Koko is legendary JUST from that one magazine clip We need an episode, in English, or some sort of official episode description. Or some other source, not TV show. It'll probably happen eventually. --Celadonkey 12:43, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
The Ultra Beasts
Okay in the PGL article for the upcoming Tiny Tournament It has a list of Pokémon they suggest using and one of them is Kartana. Now that by itself doesn't mean anything, however near the end of the article it says that the only Legendary Pokémon allowed are Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf. If Kartana was a Legendary Pokémon then those three wouldn't have been listed as the only Legendary Pokémon allowed. I don't know about you guys but I'm pretty sure this proves the Ultra Beasts aren't Legendary Pokémon. Especially since it's from the official Pokémon website.Flain (talk) 23:21, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
You are correct that Kartana is eligible. However, the site says that the Pokémon that are eligible are: "National Pokédex No. 001 through 801, excluding Pokémon over 1 meter (3'03") tall, all Mythical Pokémon, and some Legendary Pokémon." Emphasis on some. In other words, no new information, as usual.
I really do hope that TPCI says something in the near future about the legendary status of the UBs. I don't even care if they say they're not legendary, I just want some confirmation of something to end this debate --Celadonkey 13:42, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
Celadonkey, you overlooked the most important line of that article: The only Legendary Pokémon permitted in the competition are Azelf, Uxie, and Mesprit.
As the article notes, Kartana is eligible, so this line implies that Kartana is not Legendary. That's the point Flain was trying to make. --SnorlaxMonster 14:06, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
I must have been looking at the wrong website, sorry. But I still hold with my statement. This website [3] states what I said above, and from what I could find, it appears to be newer (June 28, as opposed to June 3). Either way, these two pieces of conflicting information don't add anything. --Celadonkey 14:25, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
There's no conflict. The regulations do say exactly as you described, but that doesn't contradict the other article. --SnorlaxMonster 14:41, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
Fair, but again, this doesn't really shake up the debate. --Celadonkey 15:41, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
About Silvally
So, are we confirmed that Silvally as Legendary Pokémon? E9310103838 (talk) 01:09, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Yes, it has been officially confirmed. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 01:14, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Ultra Beasts confirmed as Non-Legendaries?
The Pokémon official published an aricle with hints for catching Legendary Pokémon and the Ultra Beasts were not included and also has a part on the text saying "You'll be able to discover Pokémon that aren't found in the Alola region by entering these warp holes, including Legendary Pokémon and Ultra Beasts!" so Ultra Beast are not Legendary Pokémon. - unsigned comment from Pika fanatic (talk • contribs)
I am not really sure on that as the recent games seems to finally confirmed that there some Legendary Pokémon are indeed Ultra Beats, the examples are Cosmog and Necorzma, plus in the anime Gladion mentions Cosmog being an Ultra Beast.--Jacob Kogan (talk) 17:14, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
Can someone please provide a link to this specific article? --SnorlaxMonster 23:05, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
I don't have the article (in fact I haven't seen any articles mentioning that) but I can at least say that it says something along the lines of "Legendary Pokemon and Ultra Beasts" in the guide book a few times.
Either way, though, I don't believe it means anything... There's not enough room to say anything definite from a phrase like that, especially when other pieces of evidence are considered. At least in my opinion. --Celadonkey 23:09, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
I believe we got this information from the either the Regional Strategy Guide or National Pokedex Guide as his proof for this matter. I recall seeing that line or something similar as well.--Jacob Kogan (talk) 23:47, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
https://www.google.com.br/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj02eH4i8XYAhXBHJAKHe8sATUQFggoMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pokemon.com%2Fus%2Fstrategy%2Ften-tips-for-catching-legendary-pokemon%2F&usg=AOvVaw32bQCWU65MKaCgrfJBUgFb Here the page, Ten tips for catching Legendary Pokémon.Pika fanatic 05:14, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
Legendary Pokemon Regional Terms
So from the official staggery guide of USUM, I discovered these region term for the Legendaries. They are called Kantonian Legends, Johtoian Legends, Hoennian Legends, Sinnohan Legends, Unovan Legends, Kalosian Legends, and Alolan Legends. Shold they be added to the Legendary Pokémon page and individual pages? Just asking out of curiosity.--Jacob Kogan (talk) 02:26, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
If you want, go ahead and put them on trivia on the individual regions pages. (I think I suggested to put it there when Bulbapedia was down but I guess it never happened.) However I don't think that they should be put on this page... the demonyms aren't really exclusive to legendaries. --Celadonkey 03:16, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
Type: Null and Silvally
Since both Type: Null and Silvally are officialy Legendary Pokémon, i thought in call their evolutionary line as Beast Killers, because of the Beast Killer project that resulted in their creation, and i saw some wikas call then with this name, what are you think? Pika fanatic (talk) January 19, 04:50 (UTC)
It's probably better not to make up an imaginary name for a group that's so small that we can just say the Pokemon's names. It's not that difficult to just write "Type: Null and Silvally", unlike larger groups. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 04:38, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Type: Null, Silvally, and Tapu trivia
I just want to say they were controversial at the beginning due they were not pointed in the Japanese media as legendary Pokémon. I think this need to be included in the trivia? E9310103838 (talk) 15:41, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
I know right, and it took the Pokémon company 1-2 years to finally confirm they status as Legendaries. It cause quite the debate when it happened. I am glad both the anime and Year of Legendary Pokémon finally settle the debate but why this long? Heck, this is a debate is huge like the time with the Ultra Beats being thought o be Legendary Pokémon even though there is proof they are not, unless you count the Cosmic Duo and Necrozma. But again it up to the admins to decide on the trivia matter.--Jacob Kogan (talk) 15:46, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
There was no controversy. Fans assuming and guessing things is a common thing with the fandom.--ForceFire 15:52, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Indeed and it usually leads very interesting theories that end up being either true or false, give or take depending on the situation.--Jacob Kogan (talk) 16:03, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Replacing the Entei anime movie picture
So I have a suggestion that needs approval. I was thinking maybe replacing the this picture Entei Book picture that is on the top of the Legendary Pokemon Page with the 2018 Legendary Pokemon Distributions artwork picture. My reason is that I find that picture more fitting and better represents the Legendary Pokémon themselves as whole and their page on Bulbapedia. The Ultra Beast Page and Mythical Pokemon does the example as seen with both pages showing a variety of different Pokémon of said group each. What do you think guys?--Jacob Kogan (talk) 15:19, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
I agree. Any new-ish official artwork with a substantial group of Legendaries would clearly be better than a shot of a single Legendary from more than a decade and a half ago. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:34, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for agreeing me. Now once more approval comes, the switch came be done.--Jacob Kogan (talk) 19:08, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Don't say that you're going to wait for more approval only to make the change anyway. Have patience, a response is not going to come magically. I don't mind using an image that has all (or at least some of) the legendary Pokémon, so it's fine. But still, actually wait for more approval, don't just add it because one person approved it.--ForceFire 05:52, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
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Talk:Pokémon Black and White Versions
Revision as of 00:09, 18 July 2012 by Muk-a-matic (talk | contribs) (D'oh!)
1 Regions?
2 French intrawiki link
3 Worth noting?
5 Irony
6 Gray Version
7 Shiny legendary dogs to unlock feature in Black/White
8 Gameplay footage released on Pokémon Sunday
9 What Is This For?
10 Tentative websites
11 Isshu Region
12 Starter Pics
13 Sprites
14 New site link
16 New Pokemon
17 European release date
18 Website Links
20 DS or 3DS
21 Zekrom Link
22 Slight edit.
23 Names in other languages
23.1 In other languages
24 3D Buildings?
25 Release date!
26 Inverted Pairings
27 Chiramyi
28 New stuff in the new Oha Suta trailer
29 No walking Pokémon??
30 Removing features.
31 EP links
32 Infobox game
33 Watch
34 Famitsu
36 This theme is "Opposite poles(対極)".
37 Platinum Entries?
38 Release date
39 Back to Basics
40 C-Gear
41 Shouldn't the Famitsu thing be RECEPTION?
42 Shroomish
43 US Release Date
44 A Bit More Trivia
45 Australian Release Date
46 Characters' History
47 Possible English Release date
48 New PBW Template
49 {{Infobox_game}} template
50 Battle Revolution Compatability?
51 Trivia: Catching version mascot?
53 Glitch
55 Antiwar ideas that stay in Pokémon Black and White
56 Game Informer Review
58 Doubtful source.
59 Time after the other generations?
60 Special DSi Bundle
61 Pokemon Black and White getting new features on the 3DS?
62 3rd March
63 White and Black? Where did that come from?
64 Probably not worth it in the trivia section but..
65 Regarding the Blacklist of names...
66 Uncheatable
67 Maniacs
68 Incomplete?
69 Volbeat
70 Separate letters?
71 What?
72 Sequels
73 Censored Nicknames
74 Spites
75 C-Gear Battery?
76 Pokemon not in Black/White
77 The word 'Prequel'
Regions?
Do we have any word on what the new region(s) will be? It'll be based on unused portions of real-world Japan, will it? (Like Shikoku, for instance?) --Tanaka Shimoya 06:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Not yet, but maybe soon.--Midnight Blue 06:43, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
We knew the names of Diamond and Pearl back in 2005, in the earliest days of the wiki. We didn't get the name Sinnoh until after I had joined in 2006. That's how big a gap DP gave us. Given, this is due at the end of the year, but if we knew the region name I WOULD HAVE SAID SO. I can read Japanese, katakana specifically, and would have made that article immediately, if I knew any more than you guys do. TTEchidna 06:58, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
The region's called Isshu. User:Empoleo
French intrawiki link
Hello ! Since this page is protected, can someone add Pokémon Noir et Blanc as french link, please ? Thanks Zhu' 15:55, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, there's a French page, and there's also a German page. Somebody should definitely add those two. Wolf 23:19, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Worth noting?
I was wondering if it was worth noting in the article that this is the first time 2 generations of Pokemon games have come out on the same system.--Pkmn
Pokémon Gold and Silver were both produced as enhanced Game Boy cartridges. So technically, Gen I & II are the first two generations to come out on the same system. - Kogoro | Talk to me - 19:20, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Well, Gold and Silver were playable on the GB, but they were designed for and had more features on the Game Boy Color. These games (as far as we know) are being developed specifically for the DS. --Pkmn
And these games could easily have features for the 3DS. We're not mentioning it. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 15:26, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
I was wondering if it is relevant to include in the trivia that the games were the 88th most popular searches in Google reported around 9 A.M but occupied this place around 8a.m - unsigned comment from EmpoleonMaster (talk • contribs)
While that is interesting I don't think it is worthy enough to not, but how did you figure this out? It's neat. Pokemon1234567890 01:43, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Just if anyone was wondering about where i obtained the information about the searches in the internet, i just came by this information while i was doing some research about it. Only to be more exact they were classified as mild in the "hot" or popular searches in Google, there was also provided a graphic about how much this increase was but i could not obtain it. - unsigned comment from EmpoleonMaster (talk • contribs)
Just thought i'd point out before it's mentioned on this page, but the shot of a bridge with cars driving underneath ISN'T the first vehicle in a Pokémon game, as most people seem to forget the moving van in the opening of the Hoenn games. A minor point, but one i always seem to remember :P Dawnshadow 13:52, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
How about the S.S. Anne Truck in the Kanto games? Pokemon1234567890 01:42, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
I just want to point out that the Corocoro page didn't say that it was the first vehicle in the games, just that there will be a vehicle that has never been seen in the games before - it could be a unicycle for all we know. 梅子❀✿ 01:45, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Hmmm.........Skateboard anybody? =P --Theryguy512 02:22, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Or even a bus system. We shouldn't assume it will be a car. MaverickNate 12:01, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Would it be worth to note the irony in the fact that the first Pokémon games, named after colours, were in greyscale, and now these games, named after excessively dark and excessively light shades of grey, are in third-dimensional 1900+-bit colour? Giratina's Embodiment - Please don't hurt us... 02:00, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
OK, that's funny. But I don't think it's too notable. CuboneKing 02:13, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
It could probably be noted that they're the first games since Generation 1 to be named after colors, though? I know, technically, white and black aren't colors, but really no one except art students cares about that. Reign 02:21, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Aren't gold and silver colors in addition to metals? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 11:44, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
They're all colors, except most of them are also mineral colors. I think even "Fire Red" and "Leaf Green". -- Professional Mole (Talk here) 11:09, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Re:"white and black aren't colors".What, since when? --Solid! 11:15, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
White is the lack of color and black is a mixture of all colors Portuguese Old Man 20:37, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Not in light. the opposite is true! :P ShinyPikachu 23:34, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Gray Version
Do not discuss that here. Just like people thought from the get-go that the third version of RS was gonna be a green gem (Emerald) and third version of DP was gonna have Giratina as a mascot (Platinum), people think from the get-go that the third version to Black and White will be Gray. Congratulations! There's a forum where you can talk about it. Bulbagarden Forums has a fifth generation subforum, and that is easily a better place to put your crappy speculation for a third version to games that don't come out until the end of the year when the last third version we got took two years after its primaries to be released. And it will be Gray if it is, because "grey" is a synonym for "old". TTEchidna 01:14, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
No need to get your panties in a bunch. By the way, "grey" is a perfectly acceptable variant of "gray." --Zelrio 16:16, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Uh, I think TTEchidna's a male. magikarp123193 15:05, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Dude, old discussion is old.--Pokélova! 15:31, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Shiny legendary dogs to unlock feature in Black/White
As seen in recent Pokémon news, shiny legendary beasts, to be given away at the new movie's premiere in Japan, will unlock a feature in the upcoming Black and White. This info also tells us it will somehow be compatible for trade between Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, Pokémon Platinum, and Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver.
They have unique moves that are not normally known by Raikou, Suicune and Entei. Raikou will know Zap Cannon, Aura Sphere, and Weather Ball and will hold the Micle berry; Suicune will know Sheer Cold, Air Slash, and Aqua Ring and will hold the Rowap berry; and Entei will know Flare Blitz, Howl, and Crush Claw and will hold the Custap berry. All three will also know Extremespeed.
Please add this! - 050294 14:44, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Gameplay footage released on Pokémon Sunday
Pokémon Sunday released footage of the female player walking in a 3D city that had some Pikachu animated billboards.
Video seen here. - 050294 02:46, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
You sure that was animated? CuboneKing 04:21, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
I just checked that and the billboard above the Pokémon Center in that city is pretty stationary, it is a Pikachu billboard though. –MasterKenobi 04:36, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Oh well. I guess I was seeing things. - 050294 07:39, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
So I guess your Pokemon wont follow you anymore... Blade Bro.
Maybe, maybe not. Let's leave the speculation to the forums.... *points at banner at the top of the page* —darklordtrom 22:25, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Is this for the soon-to-be-released Nintendo 3DS or for just the normal DSs? User:Legendary Catcher 0:57:10 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Not confirmed yet, I don't think. Littlmiget123 00:59, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Right now it appears it's for the DS, but a lot of people, such as me, think that it's going to have extra features on the 3DS. CuboneKing 01:00, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
It was confirmed for DS since before we even had the titles. Reign 08:12, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
And it says so in the article. Wow!
This line of correspondence is now CLOSED. —darklordtrom 10:32, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Tentative websites
Please put these (hidden, of course) as the possible sites for the translations:
http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/ for Global (placeholder)
http://www.pokemonblackwhite.eu/ for Europe (redirect)
http://www.pokemonblackwhite.co.uk/ for the UK(redirect)
Most likely, all registered correctly.--immewnitythemew 01:37, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
It's official. These are the sites.--immewnitythemew 22:01, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
These all just redirect to the new English page. If anything is added it should be http://www.pokemon.com/blackwhite/en/ (which is the English site, by the way). --|6259 20:56, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Isshu Region
CoroCoro just confirmed that the games will be in the Isshu Region. - unsigned comment from Pokemonemerfan1954 (talk • contribs)
Thanks, I'll update the appropriate pages. —darklordtrom 11:12, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Starter Pics
I just thought that maybe since CoroCoro showed the New Starter Pics and The New Characters they maybe could be added to the page. But im not saying they should forcibly. CodyDelis
Could someone replace the current sprites for revealed Pokémon with these? They're cleaned-up PNGs, in contrast to the ones we currently have, which still have JPG pixelization when zoomed in. And it's not letting me upload them myself, I assume because of the whole new Pokémon thing. Reign 18:11, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
The Archives are locked until Monday, so I suggest maybe you contact an active admin right now, if you want them uploaded.—♥ Jello 18:18, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
New site link
http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/
I can't edit the main page, so I'll let somebody who can put this on in place of the current link. (The link as it is now leads to a very old website, and this one has all the new information, etc.) Ztobor 19:43, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Never mind, the site redirects. Ztobor 03:23, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Does anyone remember me? Well, if you take a look on the PKMN Black & White Version article on the "Pokémon Wiki" on Wikia you can find other images. I suggest getting permission from the site first before using the images here. Just to let you all know! T-SAN! 22:48, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
No I don't. Also, we are fine we can get our own images no need to get them from Wikia of all places. Thanks, --☆Coolピカチュウ! 22:49, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
(conflicted) I do... And we just don't really consider Pokémon Wiki to be too realiable... CuboneKing 22:52, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Okay, whatever you guys like. I don't think of it as realiable as this one either, but you can always look at the images if you want to, it gives more of an idea of what the games will look like. --T☆MMYSAN!♂ 02:01, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
I think people already know how the games are going to be since like yesterday. --☆Coolピカチュウ! 02:03, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Pokemon Wiki probably just stole them off of someone else, sort of like how all of their info is stolen from us. -- MAGNEDETH 06:14, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Considering they have an image of Sinnoh as their pic of Isshu (File:IsshuRegion.jpg on their site), they're not to be trusted for some stuff.--immewnitythemew 22:01, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
http://www.pokemon.com/blackwhite/en/
Would somebody like to confirm the validity of these images?--Skaisdead 16:33, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
It's on the Japanese site too with the same exact images, so.. yes, it's confirmed. That... was sudden.... ▫▫ティナ♫★ 16:45, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
They are official. Reshiram, and Zekrom. Confirmed on the Japanese site as well. Mefredbob 16:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Is this the first time that the English and Japanese names of any Pokémon are confirmed simultaneously? This is so friggin' awesome! - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 16:57, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
It's weird. Have the starters or Zoroark even been confirmed in the US yet? - unsigned comment from Skaisdead (talk • contribs)
No, they haven't. And I would like to add an important piece of info on this page. It turns out that the Boxarts have been revealed ShinyPikachu 18:40, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
European release date
Spring 2011 as well TheChrisD Rants•Edits 17:56, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
And that press release also confirms that these Pokémon are going to be on the cover, they state on which cover, and that they're legendaries. Fairly obvious, yes, but in here that everything needs super official confirmation, it is nice to have it (I think there had not been an official confirmation of that before this). Memo326 18:04, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
It's a little strange that there was no mention of they being the cover pokémon for each version in both the Japanese press (and I read the Japanese official site) or American press, but there is a quick note about it on the UK site... Even though it's obvious that they both will be on the covers, I don't really feel like this being confirmation. They just say which will appear in which game, not the cover. But maybe that's just me.--KurowaSan 19:14, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
The boxart is here, for the Japanese versions:[1] —♥ Jello 19:16, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Somebody should update the links section with the new English website for these games. (http://www.pokemon.com/blackwhite/en//) 6259 21:36, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
That's the minisite. A full site will be made at http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/ eventually.--immewnitythemew 22:01, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Or there might be construction at http://www.pokemonbw.com/ .--immewnitythemew 12:42, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
It is probably just construction because when I just tried to get onto that site IE8 said that the "site is forbidden." Probably, it will be up in the next few days. Thanks for the update. 6259 21:00, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
It's http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/ . Trust me. Please put this on the page.--immewnitythemew 17:45, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
And now, as per coding on Pokemon.com, it's confirmed. Adding to page.--immewnitythemew 21:57, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Should we add that this is the first time the games have been revealed in America before the Japanese games actually came out? — AxxonntheAwesometrainer 18:04, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
No. HGSS were the first games...--Psyライダー☮ 18:11, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
we could put that reshiram and zekrom were the first pokemon to be revealed around the world at the same time in japan? (Ataro 19:13, 29 May 2010 (UTC))
Why here though? Irrelevant... ht14 19:16, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
As for the part about Reshiram and Zekrom, it's already added on their articles that are currently in my sandbox. —♥ Jello 19:30, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
DS or 3DS
Despite this article saying that this game can be played on Nintendo DS, I read the page Nintendo 3DS, and saw that the game is played on 3DS not DS. Or is it the game can be played by both DS or 3DS? I am confused. Can somebody tell whether this game is played on DS or 3DS?
Tetrix 09:39, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
This game is going to release on DS. Check out the official cover boxes of both games, it's DS. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 09:53, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
But yes, it should be able to be played on the 3DS anyway; Nintendo has confirmed that most DS games can be played on the 3DS. Whether it's enhanced in any way by this remains to be seen. --AndyPKMN 12:56, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Zekrom Link
The link that's supposed to link to Zekrom under the boxarts apparently leads to a page that does not exist, but when you click it, it does lead to Zekrom's Pokemon page. I assume someone made the links before they created the Zekrom page, so it stayed red. Could somebody please change this?--MewSoul 14:16, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
All you have to do is purge the page. That makes the most current revision appear. You can purge the page by pressing the clock next to your username. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 15:07, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Slight edit.
The first paragraphs of the article:
In addition, Pokémon battles will be fully animated, with Pokémon on both sides constantly moving, with a dynamic camera that changes focus to highlight specific parts of the battle.
In addition to the improved graphics, a number of aesthetic changes have been made from previous generations, including an altered battle scene, speech balloons for dialog, and a combined Pokémon Center and Poké Mart building.
Are almost the same, I suggest merging this into one paragraph, so we don't fall into redundances. 聖人 wat 18:02, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Names in other languages
Japanese ポケットモンスター ブラック・ホワイト
French Pokémon Version Noire et Version Blanche
German Pokémon Schwarze Edition und Weiβe Edition
Italian Pokémon Versione Nera e Versione Bianca
Spanish Pokémon Edición Negra y Edición Blanca
Since the games have been announced internationally, with the current exception being South Korea, can an admin add this to the article, please? ポケモンあいこうか 14:38, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Okay, we got a problem here with the background color. We need the background to be white, or at least, ghost white... ポケモンあいこうか 14:55, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Can someone add this to the article? It is supposed to be there. Also, I think the colors I changed it to look better. --SnorlaxMonster 02:26, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to note that the symbol in "Weisse" (β) on the German name is actually a beta, which is a Greek letter and not the Eszett in German. The correct symbol for the Eszett is "ß". Could somebody change this? I would, but it's not letting me edit the page for some reason. - JWhitt 11:24, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Changed. Thanks for pointing it out. The reason that you couldn't edit it is that it has been protected to prevent speculation from being added. Werdnae (talk) 20:15, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
3D Buildings?
Did anybody else notice that the inside of the Pokémon Center is 3D? Should we add that information? Pawsrent 16:22, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Release date!
Pokemon Sunday revealed that the release date for Black and White in Japan is September 18th, 2010. Can someone please edit this in? --Jonouchi 23:39, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Done. Werdnae (talk) 23:53, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Inverted Pairings
Generation V is the first time that the pairings between version color and version mascot are inverted. (I.E. Reshiram, the White Dragon, is the version mascot of Pokémon Black while Zekrom, the Black Dragon, is the version mascot of Pokémon White.)--Arima 02:51, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Yes, it is some Honkey shit crap. --Zelrio 13:19, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
I think that's to fit the "Ying Yang" thing. Reshiram being the white circle in the black, and Zekrom being the black circle in the white. --KengoMel 10:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Chiramyi
Someone edited the page, claiming this to be the correct romanisation. However, nowhere else is this used, and Chiramii is a more accurate romanisation for before the official one is released. --SnorlaxMonster 08:38, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
New stuff in the new Oha Suta trailer
Pokémon Musicals: Appear to be Super Contests in all but name.
PokéShifter: Already reported on. Apparently a Pal Park analogue.
A fawn
A swan
Miruhog (ミルホッグ): From "見る" (miru, to watch) and "groundhog". Obvious Minezumi evolution
Fire Oath (ほのおのちかい): Fire-type, 10 PP
Nitro Charge (ニトロチャージ): Fire-type, 20 PP
Grass Mixer (グラスミキサー): Grass-type, 10 PP
Grass Oath (くさのちかい): Grass-type, 10 PP
Waterlog (みずびだし): [presumably] Water-type
Trainer classes
American football player
Some guy with a big backpack, but he's not a bear like previous Hikers
Tightrope walker?
Battle Subway
—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 07:24, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
No walking Pokémon??
So far none of the revealed images show walking Pokémon. Maybe the walking with Pokémon is just optional now but still I would think there would've been some images showing the trainer walking with Pokémon by now. (Show previous generation Pokémon walking to avoid revealing new ones too soon) If there is no walking with Pokémon in this game, I'll be a bit crushed. That feature was so fun in HeartGold and SoulSilver. I mean, these new games can very well use the Pokemon sprites from HG/SS. But if the feature is to be revealed as included in the future, would it be worth mentioning that it's the first Pokémon game with a walk with Pokémon feature that makes the feature optional? (Option to recall/send out Pokemon manually) --Brats817 10:15, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Actually, that might mean that out OD sprites on every template will have to be replaced. Damn, they look way better than the MS ones. たかはりい 10:43, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Removing features.
I Noticed in various videos promoting the game, Pokemon do not follow the trainer around as they did in HeartGold and SoulSilver. Was this feature just bound to that selection of games? --Proctor 20:33, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
The section directly above talks about the same thing. This sort of question is better for the forums. --SnorlaxMonster 01:29, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
The Spanish link should instead lead to es:Pokémon Ediciones Negra y Blanca, and the Portuguese link that should be there is pt:Pokémon Black e White. --SnorlaxMonster 05:30, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Infobox game
Well, that template gets messed up with the gallery, can anyone fix it? Masatoshi: Gen. II>All. Discuss. 06:37, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
I don't see any issue with it. --Gοldenpelt 07:12, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
The infobox and gallery are too wide, so it forces the gallery below the infobox's end. Maybe you have a wider screen than me and Masatoshi do.--SnorlaxMonster 07:15, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Oh. The way it was worded, it seemed like they were saying that the template got messed up. --Gοldenpelt 07:18, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
At about 4:33 a new Pokémon can be seen and there is tons of gameplay elements.. also the evolution sequence. I'm pretty sure this is reliable and it has tons of info. [2] --Landfish7 17:00, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Those new Pokémon are Denchura, Doryuuzu, and Ononokusu. We've seen them before, but there's not enough information for us to have articles on them. ~ solaris 17:06, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Also, it's been already mentioned in the news here. ht14 17:12, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Apparently, the new Famitsu issue came out, and Black and White received a 40/40. Since this is the first set of games that got this rating (the highest thus far I think was a 37/40 (what game, I'm not sure), I figure that might be included on the article, no? MN69 03:28, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
If this is added, then a Bulbanews link should be added to n:Famitsu gives Black and White perfect score. --SnorlaxMonster 08:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Korean version has been announced several days ago. The titles are, as expected 포켓몬스터 블랙 and 포켓몬스터 화이트. The time of release - Spring 2011. --Maxim 08:20, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
This theme is "Opposite poles(対極)".
This theme was declared. http://weekly.ascii.jp/elem/000/000/024/24648/ Sawamular101 15:40, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
North/South rumor confirmed! Or not really. --Maxim 15:55, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Platinum Entries?
Has anyone else noticed that it seems like all Gen I-IV Pokémon's Pokédex entries are simply copied from Platinum, or at least from Gen IV entries? Any instances where this is untrue?--Black Yin Zekrom 22:34, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
They are all the 'Dex entries from Platinum. --☆CoolPikachu! 00:00, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Well then, there's somethin trivia-worthy.--Black Yin Zekrom 02:00, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Hey guys, I just went to GameFaqs today in an attempt to get Gaurdian signs (it comes out tomorrow...) and they gave me a list of games release dates. Guess what two other Pokemon games were on the List? If you guessed Pokemon Black and Pokemon white...you win. It said the release date was 04/02/11. April 2nd 2011 Ataro 17:45, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Bulbanews it. I don't know if it's true, but a draft won't hurt. --SnorlaxMonster 07:54, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
GameFAQs, Gamespot, and other sites always make a fake date around that time. Then HeartGold and SoulSilver ended up coming out half a month earlier. Blake Talk·Edits 16:16, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
They're called placeholder dates, not fake. --HoennMaster 23:45, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Wasn't sure if it should be mentioned in the summary or its own section, but the article should mention that the creators wanted to give players the brand new feel of Red and Green/Blue all over again. --HoennMaster 05:04, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
C-Gear
I was looking at the features tab, and noticed that the 3.1 C-Gear heading was empty. There was also a C-Gear page that was deleted for some reason. I found a page on Serebii.net -> http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/cgear.shtml. Could someone maybe add this in or explain what the deal is? Thanks. --Jdthebud 06:39, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
We don't currently have the info on the C-Gear because no-one has added it yet. Feel free to. And feel free to create a page for it. The one that was deleted was deleted because someone had confused it with the Live Caster, and written the article about the Live Caster. Also, please remember that other fansites are not reliable sources of info. Werdnae (talk) 07:50, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. I don't really use Serebii that much for "reliability", I was just seeing if any preliminary info was out there. I am not really able to make a page as I don't know anything about it, I was just wondering about the deleted page and the fact that a blank section doesn't really look right - If there's nothing to put under it, then it shouldn't be there, IMO. However, that has been remedied, and thanks for responding. You answered my question well! --Jdthebud 01:00, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Shouldn't the Famitsu thing be RECEPTION?
As above.--444Zekrom 09:39, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
It's actually exclusive to Pokémon Black. I know because I caught one. I think it might be Paras that is exclusive to Pokémon White. Just guessing cause they're mushrooms. It needs to be fixed. --ケンジのガール 19:25, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
US Release Date
I recently found that the US release date for Pokémon Black and White Versions, which is April 2, 2011. I discovered this information as I was pre-ordering them at GameStop. Is this considered a reliable source of information, and is there any way of putting the US release date on the page? Thanks! --Galladequaza
No, it's not reliable. GameStop guesses at release dates when it comes to preorders, just so they have more to promise than the vague "Spring 2010". Until we get something from Nintendo themselves, we aren't adding any specific dates. --AndyPKMN 01:33, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Not to mention that's a Saturday and Nintendo releases new games on Sunday. --HoennMaster 15:58, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
A Bit More Trivia
In the trivia section, there's a note that points out many 'staples' of the series that BW do not feature (three rods, Game Corner, etc.). Isn't it worthy to add to that section that BW are also the first games that are not remakes, since the first generation, where the male protagonist's name doesn't end in "ki" (Hibiki, Yuji and Koki) and the female's name doesn't have the syllable "ka" (Haruka and Hikari)? Veggietable 15:30, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Australian Release Date
Is the Australian Release Date refering to Australian Spring or North Hemisphere Spring? It seems unfair that we have to wait three months after the rest of the world. Mr. Maril Of Oldale 00:54, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
The Australian minisite says "Early 2011", so I've updated the page. —darklordtrom 05:38, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. I assume this was put in by someone who didn't know we have Autumn when Americans have spring Mr. Maril Of Oldale 03:10, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
Characters' History
Apparently Nintendo Dream had an interview a while back regarding the origins of some of the games' characters, such as N and the Gym Leaders. I found some translations/impressions from the interview here and here, but not the actual reported interview. Anyone want to search for it and place the info on the articles? tc²₆tc26 08:51, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
Possible English Release date
This may not be correct so don't jump to conclusions yet but a flyer at gamestop listing next years game releases it listed Pokémon Black and white for Sunday April 17, 2011 This seems official to me I don't think Gamestop would lie, but I'll look for furthur details. --Pokemaster97 17:30, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Gamestop's had placeholder release dates before. I'd take it with a huge-ass grain of salt. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 17:32, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Well it follows the previous release date times on Sunday and in spring. Remember I did not say it was confirmed so don't tell me I'm wrong. --Pokemaster97 17:36, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Not saying you're wrong, just saying there exists the possibility of it not being right. Plus, I'm really hoping for a March release date. It's earlier. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 20:22, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Gamestop used placeholders all the time. They gave three different HG/SS dates and two different Guardian Signs dates. Those release date books they have aren't the most reliable. --HoennMaster 01:47, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
New PBW Template
I don't know how to make templates but I have an idea. It might look messy but you never know. Since there are no walking Pokémon in PBW could there be separate party templates for Gen V and Gen I-IV, Gen V with MS sprites and Gen I-IV with OD sprites? —強力な河川! 09:33, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
That's not really relevant to this page. It would look very messy, especially considering that some pages have two party templates. I think that it is best to just leave it the way it is. Hopefully we get OD sprites in another Generation V game. --SnorlaxMonster 10:08, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
{{Infobox_game}} template
Right now game titles are writen with black font on almost black background, it's kinda hard to read. If one to swap colorscheme and bordercolorscheme, titles become easier to read, but titles of subcategories (Basic Info, Ratings...) contrary harder and infobox itself looks worse and less appealing. Is there a way to change titles color to white? It would make more sense and be easier to read... --ЫъГЬ 12:34, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
How's that? Werdnae (talk) 18:50, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
Battle Revolution Compatability?
So I'm guessing these don't work with Battle Revolution, unless the 3-D sprites, announcer voice-overs, and move cinematics are loaded from the games, which I don't think they do ChknNuggets 17:44, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
They don't. The disclaimer on the bottom of the Japanese boxes says as such. Bluesun 09:56, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Trivia: Catching version mascot?
The Trivia section states that the game requires the player to catch Reshiram/Zekrom in order to continue the plot ... but back in Ruby/Sapphire the player had to fight Groudon or Kyogre as part of the story, and in HeartGold/SoulSilver the player is required to battle their version mascot before they can surf out of New Bark Town and proceed towards Victory Road.
So does this mean the player is specifically required to catch their version mascot, and not merely face it in a battle? If so, Black/White are indeed the first generation to do this, but as the US release isn't for another few months, that's just a guess and I could be wrong. --Stratelier 07:32, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
I think that it was clear enough before. It said "required to catch", so I don't see that as misleading. In the other games where you have to battle the version mascot, you are not "required to catch" them. --SnorlaxMonster 07:36, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
I guess my issue was stumbling over the phrasing of "if the pokemon is not caught" (which could technically occur three ways: Not battled yet, fled from battle, or knocked it out). I know editing Trivia sections is discouraged at this time, but by now I've thought up a better (and shorter!) way for phrasing it and I want to get it out of my head before I forget. --Stratelier 18:52, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Do these games require 3DS, or does a normal DS Lite run these games? Just askin' before I make the decision to purchase either game. =) --Sanni 16:23, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Any console with "DS" in its name works.----無限の知性 ◎ ＤＥＮＮＯＵ◆ＺＥＮＳＨＩ 16:31, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
There seems to be a glitch with the main infobox in this article; the words "Black" and "White" in the heading are overlapping. T a r o m o n 11:46, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
It's probably just your browser. Everything looks fine to me. --HoennMaster 19:29, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Oh, that's right. . . that was pointed out to me before, but I couldn't figure out why it was doing that. The only thing I could think of now was IE stacking the tables which were all in the same cell, which it shouldn't be doing anyway. I separated them into separate cells, so it should be all fixed now. Hopefully I haven't introduced any other bugs. Werdnae (talk) 01:53, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
The trivia states that these games are the first games since yellow to be named after colours but black and white are not actually colours (Matty19892009 14:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC))
New comments to the bottom please. And if they aren't colours, would you mind telling me what colour this text is? How about this text? Werdnae (talk) 01:32, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Oh, and don't even mention Gold and Silver being colors. I'm pretty sure they're supposed to be named after the minerals of gold and silver. --Bee § Bwakka 01:36, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Actually, Gold and Silver are named after the colors. In Japanese, there is a distinction between Gold and Silver as metals and as colors, and the games use the colors in their names. --SnorlaxMonster 10:21, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Antiwar ideas that stay in Pokémon Black and White
The developer included antiwar ideas to Pokémon Black and White. [3] The name of the magazine is Da Vinci.[4]Sawamular101 08:13, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Game Informer Review
Game Informer gave the games a 8.75 out of 10 in the issue I just got today.--Marchbaby 00:10, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
It has been a few days since I added the above and since it was not changed I am adding it now. Feel free to rewrite it to be better than what I have done.--Marchbaby 22:45, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Thank you. Next time you find out something new, feel free to add it right away :) —darklordtrom 11:00, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Thank you. I thought you guys did the table thing for reviews like on Wikipedia so I posted this before checking but since it is only text here I am glad since I cannot do the tables on a wiki to save my life. I will keep looking for more reviews.I did find that videogamer.com gave the games a 9 out of 10 so I will add that as well.
Nobody thought to add the fact that the music changes depending on the battle situation? *Adds* PoketoaTheFirefox 17:13, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Doubtful source.
Also, some of the new Pokémon appearing in both games were designed by James Turner of Nintendo of America instead of Game Freak's design team. This is to tie up with the American feel of Black and White.
1 "James Turner" belongs to Nintendo of America.
2 This is to tie up with the American feel of Black and White.
Where is this source? "James Turner" is an employee of game freak.[5]Sawamular101 18:08, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
James Turner is not American. James Turner is a British. The source is Nintendo Dream vol.205. Sawamular101 01:11, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
James Turner should really have his own article too. --SnorlaxMonster 02:36, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
He is a game director now. [[6]]Sawamular101 03:20, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Time after the other generations?
Should we include how many years after the previous Generations Generation V occurs?
If Gen. I and III occur at the same time, and Gen. II and and IV occur 3 years after that, then we can narrow Generation V down to happening at least 1 year after Generation II/IV due to Cynthia mentioning being beaten by the protagonist of Generation IV.
Just a thought Robster10 18:41, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Fourth paragraph of the Generation V article:
Generation V occurs an unknown amount of time after Generation II and Generation IV. The Team Rocket Grunt who stole the Machine Part appears, saying that while he had intended to revive Team Rocket upon returning home, he instead fell in love and had a son. Cynthia mentions visiting the Distortion World and being defeated by a young Trainer as Sinnoh League Champion.
—Minimiscience 18:44, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Ah okay, i didnt notice that on the Generation V Page. Robster10 18:47, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Special DSi Bundle
Do we have information on the new DSi bundles anywhere on the site? They just got confirmed by IGN, but I wasn't sure if it was official before. NotSteve 22:54, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
I checked and it wasn't, so I put it there. --NotSteve 16:00, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
GAME in the UK have been advertising them for about two weeks or so. Bluesun 01:05, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Pokemon Black and White getting new features on the 3DS?
As we know now, the the 3DS has been released in Japan (http://ds.ign.com/articles/115/1152699p1.html). I remember reading back on IGN that Pokemon Black and White would get more features than just the DSi's features only if played on the 3DS instead (can't find the page to link to, but I swear I saw something like that). Has anyone actually tested Black or White on a 3DS to see if anything gets added? I know the games have Infrared, but the 3DS only has that. If we find 3DS exclusive features, maybe we could note that in the article somewhere. RedLuigi 00:29, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
IGN was wrong. The creators of the games confirmed there were no 3DS features. --HoennMaster 05:32, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
I believe that it has the same enhancements that it has on Nintendo DSi and Nintendo DSi XL, where it uses the camera, and this is where the misconception came from. --SnorlaxMonster 06:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Ah, I see now. No wonder I couldn't find the article for it, IGN probably deleted it after realizing their mistake. RedLuigi 16:40, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
3rd March
It should also be added that people who pre-ordered early online with GAME in the UK got their copy of the game today (in most cases) Daniel1993 used to be Robbo5002 19:40, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
No it shouldn't. It's very common for some people to get the games early. --HoennMaster 20:05, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
White and Black? Where did that come from?
"These games are being advertised as "White and Black" instead of Black and White at Toys "R" Us."
Um, I work at Toys "R" Us, and I can tell you that this is certainly not the case. They're being advertised as "Black and White", just like they are everywhere else. I even have a promotional display from Toys "R" Us that I got to take home that I'm looking at right now, and guess what is says? Not "White and Black".
And even if that was true, it seems like rather useless trivia, much like most of the trivia on this wiki... Seriously, a page shouldn't have 30 lines of trivia. Tyeforce 22:28, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
In what country do you work in?That Sammich Omnomnom Rangers lead the way. 22:43, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
United States. Why? Tyeforce 23:00, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Different stores in different countries might do other things, such as this trivia piece.That Sammich Omnomnom Rangers lead the way. 00:41, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
Seriously, It's just switched around. It's not notable trivia. Please let's end this discussion. --Pokemaster97 00:46, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
I aree with --Pokemaster97 on ths one that it is not notable and should be deleted even if iis true. noticed ialready has and I am hay to see that was deleted.--Marchbaby 15:28, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
Probably not worth it in the trivia section but..
This probably isn't worth noting in the trivia section (and we don't have an Instruction Booklet article), but on page 28 of the NA White version instruction booklet it has a spelling mistake - it says "informaiton" instead of "information". Thought I'd point that out in case someone finds it trivia worthy. Xxcom9a 02:27, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
I can confirm that this is not the case in the Australian version. --SnorlaxMonster 02:41, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
And it's not the case for the American Pokémon Black Version either. You mean the red text on the bottom, right? --Enervation 17:44, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
Regarding the Blacklist of names...
It seems to be unchanged from the Japanese version, which only covers words up to 5 letters long. IE: I was able to name my Purrloin 'Asshole' because I wanted to test if it was updated. It doesn't look like it was. It sort of makes the blacklist ineffective. Yabukuron 22:54, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Uncheatable
I'm not sure, but this may be trivia worthy. My Action Reply DSi doesn't seem to work with White or Black (on a side note, White doesn't even really fit). Anyway, I tried to use my Action Replay to make a Wild Togekiss appear (I got bored) but when I clicked "Boot game with codes" it just froze. Trivia worthy as being uncheatable?--Darknesslover5000 01:33, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
You need to upgrade your AR to the latest version or it doesn't work. So no, it isn't "uncheatable". --ケンジのガール 03:17, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
I was wondering if it would be useful to have a page on the various Maniacs found around Unova. Not the trainer class(es), but those guys who buy sellable items at a higher price, and each has an item that only they'll buy (for eg, the mushroom maniac buys all Mushroom items for twice(?) their usual value, and BalmMushroom for 25,000). I'm not nearly competent enough at Wiki editing to make the page myself though - Raylax 14:47, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Incomplete?
Just a little question:how is this article still incomplete? It has a ton of info. :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 22:02, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Eh... Never mind... :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 00:17, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
As Illumise is found in exclusively White, I would assume that Volbeat is exclusive to Black? The "Exclusive to Black Version" list is one Pokémon shorter than the "Exclusive to White Version" list, and that wouldn't make sense. I don't have Black Version, so I can't test this. EnosShayremTalk 22:58, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Also, quoting the bullet points under the lists, "While Volbeat and Illumise are only available in the wild in Black and White respectively..." But, I don't want to wrongfully edit things, and I like to be sure. EnosShayremTalk 23:01, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Volbeat's page says that it's found in Black, so screw it, I'm editing it. EnosShayremTalk 23:04, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
That isn't very nice to say... :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 23:05, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Ninja'd by the person asking the question. Anyways, yes, go ahead an add it. R.A. Hunter Blade 23:06, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Why not? :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 23:07, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Volbeat can be obtained by breeding an Illumise in White. So it is not a version exclusive. XVuvuzela2010X 23:55, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
I do believe that breeding should not be a factor in deducting if a Pokémon is a version-exclusive, but that's just my 2 cents. It's Turtwig A! My talk or wiki edits 23:57, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
"Version exclusive" refers to Pokémon unobtainable in the wild in certain games, V. Otherwise none of them would be version exclusives due to trading and the fact that some in-game trainers have them. R.A. Hunter Blade 00:02, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Thats not what it means, Version Exclusive refers to Pokemon unobtainable in one version (Black for example) without trading with the other version (White). XVuvuzela2010X 00:08, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
I don't agree, but I haven't had enough sleep to argue right now so I'm getting off. R.A. Hunter Blade 00:14, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
If Volbeat should be added, then Pokemon such as Caterpie and Weedle need to be removed, since they're found in the game via breeding only. Toujours 18:45, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Nope, Caterpie and Weedles evo's are version exclusive, thus meaning they are too. Volbeat is not. XVuvuzela2010X 22:03, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
However Caterpie can be obtained in Pokémon Black by breeding a Butterfree from the Pokémon Dream World. This, however, is not the case with Beedrill. So shouldn't that be noted as well? --Enervation 17:49, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
Here's the full list of Pokémon that are normally version exclusive but can be obtained through the Pokémon Dream World: Caterpie, Metapod, Butterfree, Murkrow, Honchkrow, Poochyena, Mightyena, Pidgey, Nidoran♀, Nidoran♂, Porygon (Japanese event), Togekiss (event), Mareep, Hoppip, Wooper, Lotad, Surskit, Marill, Corphish, Starly, and Shinx. --Enervation 18:14, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
Just so you know, we're excluding the Dream World from affecting version-exclusives. Like with the Pokéwalker (I don't know if it did actually affect version exclusives, but if it did we would ignore it). --SnorlaxMonster 12:47, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
MeowthSS and SableyeHG are found on the Pokewalker, but only on event routes. I was actually thinking about adding Dream World Exclusives to the Version Exclusives page? XVuvuzela2010X 17:05, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
Separate letters?
Is it notable trivia to say that they are the first paired versions not to share at least one letter in their names? Even the third versions share at least one letter with their respective first and second versions. SpearBeedrill 01:20, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
No, I think that's an example of trivia that's not notable at all. --AndyPKMN (talk) 11:14, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
"The developer included antiwar ideas to Pokémon Black and White."
What? I didn't notice this at all when I played through them. Is there an interview or something to confirm the developer's intent? Shiny Noctowl 15:52, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Talk:Pokémon Black and White Versions#Antiwar ideas that stay in Pokémon Black and White --SnorlaxMonster 16:32, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't we add that these are the first Pokemon games to have direct sequels, and at the top say: If you were looking for the sequels to Black and White, see Pokemon Black and White 2 ? Volcronaperson 21:06, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
How direct do we know the sequels to be? Do we know them to be any more direct than third versions? As for the second question, people looking for Pokémon Black and White 2 would not search for Black and White without the 2. --SnorlaxMonster 12:26, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm playing Devil's Advocate here: What if someone looking for B2 and/or W2 didn't know there was a difference between B and B2/W and W2 or forgot to put in the 2 or something like that? Then what? Pikachu9000 06:10, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
If they don't know there is a difference between BW and B2W2, how are they searching specifically for B2W2? Werdnae (talk) 06:21, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Well we should at least put on the BW disambiguation page: If you were looking for the sequels to Black and White, see Pokemon Black and White 2. Just in case someone does really forget the 2. Volcronaperson 01:02, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm not going to look for something that has a "2" after its name looking for the original because it is obvious that the "2" makes it a sequel. I will put it on the "BW" page though. --SnorlaxMonster 06:08, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
Censored Nicknames
Trivia says that the games don't allow you to nickname your Pokémon with blacklisted names. Do they censor the nicknames of Pokémon traded forward from previous versions? - poikins 19:58, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
The censor only applies when attempting to nickname a Pokémon, name the player, name a box, etc. Since the nickname is already set, it is unaffected; however the GTS has a censor built in too, but it works in a different way, so it is unlikely that these Pokémon will be able to be traded over the GTS. --SnorlaxMonster 07:55, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Spites
We should put moving sprites for bw in every sprite,at least for ones from unova.--Shravs (Nuvema Gym) 08:04, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
We would, but we need to actually obtain the sprites with the correct dimensions and as APNGs before we can. --SnorlaxMonster 07:55, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
We can at least put a video.--Shravs (Nuvema Gym) 09:26, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Video...? You mean recording the sprites raw and use them like that? It's not a good idea. I believe you mean rip an animated sprite? It's still a bit hard to do, if you want to get on it, then by all means try it. Also, please indent your comments from now on using a colon (:). Masatoshitalk 09:32, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Videos are absolutely not going on the species or move pages. The videos that had crept onto the move pages were a major factor contributing to the loading issues we had. For the people that say it's fixed by the movelist change: they weren't loading even after we changed the template. As soon as we removed the videos, they loaded. Werdnae (talk) 19:30, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
We can publish it on the main page,editors hub,etc.Many users can help us.We can even start a project about it.Shravs (Nuvema Gym) 07:10, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Why are not animated GIFs used instead of APNGs? The former has much wider compatibility (from being so old) and all the patent issues have expired (for the same reason). EdwardV 16:20, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
I guess we should ask someone who is a pro.All this goes over my head.--Shravs (Nuvema Gym) 07:07, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
C-Gear Battery?
When the game is played on the DS, the battery meter on the C-Gear has two sections (one less than the one on the DS main menu), whereas when it is played on the 3DS, the meter has three sections (one less than the one on the 3DS Home menu). I don't know the specifics for the DSL and DSi/DSi XL, but I'm sure they're similar. Worth mentioning? Ṕїґαкα~Ṃḯṧтїкα 01:31, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
It's probably that way because empty is the lowest it goes on the C-Gear, while on the home menu on the consoles it stops at one bar. --SnorlaxMonster 07:08, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Well, yeah, but it's just interesting that the graphics change depending on what system you play it on. Ṕїґαкα~Ṃḯṧтїкα 18:48, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Pokemon not in Black/White
What pokemon are not in Black/White? --Sapphowako 22:34, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Version-exclusive section, this is what it's there for. --HoennMaster 04:08, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
What about pokemon that you cannot get in the games unless you transfered them, like the Hoenn Starters? --Sapphowako 01:18, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
Since those Pokémon are not included in the games without transfer, it's not listed on this page. You can see how to obtain them by visiting their respective pages. --Pokemaster97 01:26, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
The word 'Prequel'
You cannot call Pokémon Black and White Versions prequels. In order for the games to be prequels, they would have had to be released after Pokémon Black and White Versions 2. I tried correcting this, but somebody decided to change it back. Could whoever did this please stop this and remember this for future use.
Also, here's the actual definition for the word.
pre·quel/ˈprēkwəl/ Noun: A story or movie containing events that precede those of an existing work.
Thank-you. - unsigned comment from Blagdenwhiteraven (talk • contribs)
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DSS Group Inc deal has helped put fizz back in Cott Corp's shares
It’s been a long time since Mississauga, Ont.’s Cott Corp. has been a stock to watch, so market observers who take a look at the top performers of 2015 on the Toronto Stock Exchange may be in for a surprise
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TORONTO – It’s been a long time since Mississauga, Ont.’s Cott Corp. has been a stock to watch, so market observers who take a look at the top performers of 2015 on the Toronto Stock Exchange may be in for a surprise.
In November, when the private-label beverage manufacturer for clients such as Walmart Stores Inc. announced plans to acquire U.S. water and coffee purveyor DSS Group Inc. for US$1.25 billion, things were looking bleak. Cott had just posted its 11th-consecutive quarter of sales declines, its stock had seen a negative total return of 7% for the past five years and it had failed to find a buyer after effectively hanging a “for sale” sign in the window for months.
Then hedge funds started to notice what looked like a value opportunity. Cott has strong cash flow and an attractive dividend compared to the cheap price of its shares and the DSS Group acquisition reduced its exposure to the declining carbonated beverage market.
Since Cott announced its plan to acquire DSS Group on Nov. 6, its share price on the New York Stock Exchange has increased 49% from US$6.24 to close at US$9.30 Tuesday. Cott lags only Valeant Pharmaceuticals International Inc. in performance on the Toronto Stock Exchange since Jan. 1.
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Levin Capital Strategies LP is one of the hedge funds that saw an opportunity and is now Cott’s biggest shareholder with a 17% stake. Portfolio manager Jack Murphy said the fund is making a bigger bet on Cott than it ever has on a single company.
“You just have multiple ways to win here. We think the stock is worth at least US$15 and we can make the case it’s worth at least US$25,” he said. “You don’t get these opportunities all the time.”
Cott has a long history. The company was founded in Port Chester, N.Y. in 1923 by a father and son team and its Canadian roots go back to 1952 when a Montreal clothing salesman started importing Cott sodas into Quebec.
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Cott has its own beverage brands, but prior to the acquisition of DSS Group, it made most of its money by manufacturing sodas for major retailers and labelling them with those companies’ house brands. By the late 2000s, however, demand for carbonated beverages had fallen. Key customer Walmart terminated a 10-year contract with Cott in 2009 that had made the company the exclusive supplier of its house brand sodas.
The acquisition of DSS Group, which was finalized in December, significantly diversifies Cott’s business. Demand for coffee and water is growing, unlike demand for soda, and getting into the office delivery business reduces Cott’s dependence on the whims of big retail clients like Walmart.
Representatives of Cott declined a request for an interview with chief executive Jerry Fowden. In a conference call to discuss Cott’s fourth quarter and full-year results on Feb. 24, Mr. Fowden said soft drinks now account for less than one-fifth of the company’s US$3 billion in revenue.
“Cott is now a much more balanced business,” Mr. Fowden said on the call. “I believe new Cott’s valuation should move closer to that of its peers over time.”
The company’s recent stock gains have been impressive, but Kevin Grundy, an analyst with Jefferies Group LLC, pointed out investors who have held the stock since 2013 still haven’t recovered the value they lost over the past two years. He said he thinks the company’s growth projections are ambitious.
“I get why some hedge funds have been piling into this thing,” he said. “We’ll see if it delivers.”
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Futurework: Managing Complexity With Simplicity by Doug Kirkpatrick
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Category: book memes
Uprooted vs. Married to the Sea
I finally picked up Uprooted: The Japanese American Experience During World War II by Albert Marrin. This book was a National Book Award finalist and on several best-of lists for 2016. And on page 15, I saw this:
Page 15 of Uprooted
If you have spent any time looking at old newspapers or old medical ads, this looks nothing like an ad from the 1800s. If you pause for even a moment to read the text, you may wonder at a drug ad for something called “Placebo.” If you pause for two moments, you may be struck by how unlikely the phrase “drink it on the go” is for an ad of that time. Perhaps you suspect this this may instead be a joke.
Librarian powers activate! I flipped back to the picture credits to look for a source. The image was listed as PD-US: public domain in the United States, no original source listed. A quick Google search turned the image up on Pinterest, tagged as a Victorian advertisement. I put that image through the TinEye reverse image search engine and hey presto: a link to the original source. It’s a comic from the (awesome) webcomic by Drew Fairweather and Natalie Dee, Married to the Sea, which uses public domain clip art. The image in Uprooted and on Pinterest is trimmed to remove the URL of Married to the Sea, denying them credit as its source.
I really hope this was not the work of the author. I hope this was put into the book some underpaid intern charged with finding no-cost illustrations. But this really really really shouldn’t have made it into the final version of a serious work of history for young readers. This is absolutely going into my classroom presentation on finding reliable sources online. (Why not try the US National Library of Medicine Digital Collection? There you could find this actual public domain ad for a children’s medicine that contained morphine.)
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← Greek | “Legacy”
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Glee | “Sexy”
I have a quick review of last night’s Glee right after the jump.
One of the biggest changes I have had to make since I started writing my own reviews at BP on TV is not reading other reviews immediately after I finish an episode of the show I’m writing about. It’s one of the cardinal rules of criticism, so as not to color your own opinions or inadvertently adopt someone else’s view as your own. Reading other critics after I’ve posted my own review is great, as it helps me see where we differed or line up in our opinions, and may give me things to think about for the future, but whatever I write up in my own reviews is 100% purely my thoughts.
I say this because Glee is one of the more difficult shows to write about, I think, and I’m often unsure what I really think of an episode until later down the line. When an episode is completely off the walls, like “The Sue Sylvester Shuffle,” or, conversely, really well done, like “Silly Love Songs,” it’s easier to write about because it’s at the extreme of what Glee can do. An episode like “Sexy,” though, is more complicated, because it has some elements from both extremes.
I’ll start with the good: The Burt/Kurt scenes were heartfelt and had a good message to them. “The talk” is never comfortable for anyone, and it was nice that Burt pointed out that he wanted to have it even less than Kurt did. The moral was a bit preachy (“Use it as a way to connect to another person”), but it worked based on their established relationship. Santana and Brittany discussing their as-yet-undefined relationship was also good work for both characters, deepening Santana especially. And, finally, I found Gwyneth Paltrow’s return to be fun, even if Holly Holiday is completely inappropriate as the sex ed. teacher (or any teacher, really). She got some good jokes and helped Will, at least temporarily, get out of his funk over Emma.
Now, the not-so-good: “Blame It on the Alcohol” ultimately seemed to glamorize teen drinking, and while “Sexy” didn’t necessarily glamorize sex, it was definitely not against it. And that’s fine. But Glee needs to figure out what kind of show it wants to be when it comes to “messages.” If Ryan Murphy is saying this is a show for 7-year-olds and the importance of arts education, then pro-drinking, pro-sex episodes are probably not the best idea.
Furthermore, the whole celibacy club seemed to almost be mocking the idea of celibacy. As Holly said several times, it’s not necessarily realistic to expect all high schoolers to practice abstinence, and I think it’s important to have comprehensive sex ed., but when the only members of the club are Quinn (a teen mother), Rachel (who’s only there because she can’t be with Finn at the moment) and Emma (a 30-year-old married virgin with intimacy issues), the reasons for celibacy all become external, rather than personal choices. That’s even more true by the end, when every member of the glee club for some reason ends up in the celibacy club because… I don’t even know why.
The main conceit — that “sexy” would be the glee club’s theme of the week because they were uninformed about sex — was also completely nonsensical. Holly singing “Do You Wanna Touch Me” and getting all the kids to rip open their shirts was neither sexy nor in any way educational. Just because “sex” and “sexy” share the same root word doesn’t mean they have the same meaning, and Glee tried too hard last night to force that connection.
So, really, “Sexy” wasn’t that different from any Glee episode. It had good parts scattered through a muddled, ridiculous plot. At this point, if the result doesn’t leave me banging my head against my desk, that’s about all I can ask for.
Sue only showed up briefly at the Lima Bean to spill New Directions’ sexy game plan to Kurt and Blaine (“This is just sort of the way she talks”). Since less is more with Sue these days, probably a good thing.
About “Do You Wanna Touch Me” — Will had no choice! The kids are so uneducated!
Of course Brittany still thinks babies are delivered by storks. (Although her honesty with Santana and her self-awareness about her feelings doesn’t really line up with her stupidity otherwise.)
I’m glad Coach Beiste is sticking around, even if we only got one quick scene with her.
1. What was that warehouse the Warblers were in? 2. How was their dance sexy? 3. What were the bubbles all about?
Good to know that Lauren Zizes just wants to be famous, and she’ll do whatever it takes to get there. (“I want a TV show and a fragrance. It’ll be called Zizes and the slogan will be ‘You just got zized.'”)
Tolerance Narnia doesn’t have sex ed!?!
Was Sam’s line to Artie (“Wish you and I were that close”) supposed to be ironically funny or something?
Speaking of irony, wasn’t it funny that Emma thought “Afternoon Delight” was a dessert??
John Stamos returned as Dr. Carl. It seems like he and Emma should have figured out their intimacy problems and Emma’s feelings for Will before they got married.
“I’m off to have craazy sex because I’m craaazy informed about it!”
“I’m not following.” “It’s Jazzercise, Will, it’s really not that hard.”
“Speaking of STDs, how’s your dating life?”
“Breakfast confuses you.” “Well sometimes it’s sweet and sometimes it’s salty. Like, if I have eggs for dinner, what is it?”
“My sex tape with JD Salinger was a disaster.”
“Sorry if I’m overstepping.” “You are.”
What did other people think of “Sexy”? Share your thoughts in the comments section below!
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5 responses to “Glee | “Sexy””
Cat Scott | March 9, 2011 at 2:44 pm | Reply
Don’t forget…”My lips are sealed…just like your legs”
Monica | March 9, 2011 at 9:37 pm | Reply
Love your comments about the Warblers. I thought the same thing!
Lola | March 10, 2011 at 3:33 am | Reply
The Warblers warehouse scene was totally random – agree on that one. Generally on Tolerance Narnia, it was nice to see them giving Darren Criss an actual acting part with some real Blaine scenes that aren’t just singing or standing there as the token love interest for Kurt.
On the rest, pretty much agree, but go further in that I think the characters are being warped into some alternate reality with all these twists. Puck is barely a believable character anymore. He’s gone from being the stereotypical bad guy everyone loves to just being weird.
The show seems to be trying so hard to stand up for the little guy that it’s creating an increasingly unbelievable alternate universe.
I have a theory of one good episode, one not so good – kinda like the Star Trek movies. I hope next week proves me right on that – or is at least more even (and better).
Ben Phelps | March 10, 2011 at 1:16 pm | Reply
I agree, the characters at this point are just being used to fit the week’s plot, rather than having the plot fit around believable character actions and motivations. Kurt and Burt may be the only consistent characters on the show.
I hope you’re right about the one good/one bad pattern. It’s just disappointing to see a show that *could* be really consistently good (and has proven it can be good) waste its potential.
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3D Printing, Stratasys, FDM Technology
1988 - 2017: Road to The New Stratasys F123 Series
By Juan Carlos Gandiaga on February 14, 2017
Like other companies trying to improve productivity, compete against rivals and maintain an edge with customers, Stratasys is always striving to break new ground. This blog explores the progression of Stratasys FDM 3D Printers from the invention of FDM technology in 1988 to the new Stratasys F123 Series product launches in 2017.
1988: Scott Crump Invents FDM
Looking back to 1988, Scott Crump invented a breakthrough technology called Fused Deposition Modeling. Since being commercialized and trademarked by Stratasys in the early 90s, FDM 3D printing continues to make advancements today.
1994: First Thermoplastic Available for 3D Printing
By introducing the first ABS material to work with FDM printers, Stratasys opened the door to stronger more complex parts. This expanded opportunity for 3D printing in manufacturing industries.
2002: Stratasys Increases Accessibility
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IBM sees blockchain as ready for government use
How blockchain may kill the password
Solving a blockchain conundrum: Biometrics could recover lost encryption keys
Google, Hyperledger launch online identity management tools
How blockchain could solve the internet privacy problem
Blockchain, with its encrypted and immutable record, will eventually be used create universal digital identities, filled with information that only we will control and that will link back to the issuing banks, governments or even employers.
By Lucas Mearian
Senior Reporter, Computerworld | PT
Fintech firms, software makers, telecom providers and other businesses have joined forces develop a blockchain-based network that will enable anyone to exchange digital credentials online and without the risk of unintentionally exposing any private data.
The companies are part of the Sovrin Foundation, a new nonprofit organization now developing the Sovrin Network, which could enable anyone to globally exchange pre-verified data with any entity also on the network.
The online credentials would be akin to identify information you or I might have in our physical wallets: a driver's license, a bank debit card or a company ID.
[ Related: What is blockchain? The most disruptive tech in decades ]
Instead of a physical card, however, the IDs in our digital wallets would be encrypted and link back to the institutions that created them, such as a bank, a government or even an employer, which, through the blockchain, would automatically verify that information to a requestor.
Maintaining control
The owner of the digital wallet can determine what information a requesting business receives, and no more.
"They control who has access to their wallet and also can revoke that access at any time," said Adam Gunther, IBM's director of trusted identity.
This week, IBM announced it had joined the Sovrin Network to assist businesses, nonprofits and governments in building out the infrastructure and applications that will enable consumers to transact with them.
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Along with other members of the Sovrin Foundation, IBM has been working with an industry standards body, the Decentralized Identity Foundation, to ensure a homogeneous interface. IBM will also dedicate hardware, security and network capacity to assist in the operation of the self-sovereign identity network.
In addition to IBM, Sovrin Founders include 22 businesses from a wide range of industries, such as ATB Financial, SICPA, a maker of security inks used in paper money, and T-Labs, the research and innovation unit of Deutsche Telekom. Evernym, another fouding member, develops self-sovereign identity applications that run on the Sovrin network.
In a digital economy, where consumers and businesses buy merchandise, apply for mortgages and loans, and send identify verification information for a myriad of purposes, ensuring data privacy has become paramount, particularly after many high-profile data breaches.
Solving an online insecurity problem
Last year, more than 2.9 billion records were compromised from various security incidents across industries, including 143 million American consumers whose sensitive personal information was exposed in a data breach at credit reporting agency Equifax.
To address what it sees as an internet infrastructure flaw, the Sovrin Network will add a missing identity layer to it based on an immutable blockchain record, making secure and private self-sovereign digital identity possible for the first time, according to Phil Windley, chair of the Sovrin Foundation.
The network is currently in beta, with pilots taking place among various Sovrin Foundation members, Windley said. It should be generally available to businesses sometime this summer.
"I don't believe there's a ton of people who are suddenly going to wake up this summer and say, 'I need to download a self-sovereign identity wallet for my phone,' " Windley said. "What's more likely to happen is they're going to go into their bank or credit union and they're going to say, 'We have this new way of logging into your account.' You'll download an app."
Behind the scenes, the bank and customer will exchange non-correlatable identifiers; they'll simply scan a QR code and will be signed up for the new identity service.
"Later on, they'll see that as an [icon] on their phone," Windley said.
One pilot the Sovrin Foundation is currently testing with IBM is verifying employee identification. IBM workers scan a QR code provided by their company, and they're automatically given an icon that a bank on the network can use to verify employment.
Sovrin is not alone
While Sovrin may have a groundswell of support among its members, it is by no means the first use blockchain to link identifiable data to a user through a blockchain distributed ledger.
Microsoft plans to pilot its own blockchain-based digital ID platform that would allow users to control access to sensitive online information via an encrypted data hub.
"This new world needs a new model for digital identity, one that enhances individual privacy and security across the physical and digital world," Ankur Patel, a principal product manager with Microsoft's Identity Division, wrote in a blog post. "Rather than grant broad consent to countless apps and services, and have their identity data spread across numerous providers, individuals need a secure encrypted digital hub where they can store their identity data and easily control access to it."
In January, Microsoft joined the ID2020 alliance, a global partnership working to create an open-source, blockchain-based digital identity system for people in the U.S. or other nations who lack legal documentation because of their economic or social status. The ID2020 alliance is targeting people who lack fundamental rights and services such as voting, healthcare, housing and education that are tethered to legal proof of identification.
Tech-savvy institutions like MIT have started issuing graduates diplomas via blockchain so that future employers no longer have to verify degrees and transcripts with the university.
Michael Fauscette, chief research officer at G2 Crowd, a business-to-business software review site, expects that in the next five years, decentralized verification will no longer be a novelty; it will be the norm.
"Imagine hiring without reference checks or transcript verifications, where all that an applicant needs is a blockchain hash,” Fauscette said.
The digital wallet
The concept behind digital wallets has been used for years by cryptocurrencies such as bitcoin to verify whether someone has the actual funds to purchase the digital currency, while keeping their identify anonymous. A financial services institution that is part of the bitcoin network, for example, simply verifies that there are sufficient funds for a bitcoin purchase without the need to disclose the identity or actual account balance of the banking customer.
In cryptography, the concept is known as zero knowledge proofs, a method by which someone of which information is being requested can link back to a verifying person or institution, without conveying any additional information except that which they are being asked.
So, for example, a bank may request to know you earn above $75,000 a year for the purposes of a loan; as a member of the blockchain network, your employer could verify only that you make more than $75K without disclosing your actual annual salary. Or a government could verify that a consumer is older than 18 for voting purposes or older than 21 in order to purchase alcohol. The information would be verified by the consumer by simply bringing up an application on their phone and presenting an icon.
The Sovrin Network will ensure three things: The individual is their own identity provider; the individual controls who has access to their information, a privilege they can revoke at any time; and the Sovrin Foundation becomes the central governing authority, determining who can join that permissioned blockchain network so that people can do business across it.
Businesses or government organizations that verify consumer identities and their private data would be known as "trust anchors" on the network. Those trust anchors could also delete and reissue user authority.
"So if my phone was stolen, I could have my keys revoked and reissued, so now that wallet is unusable," Gunther said. "Just like today, if your credit card is stolen, a bank can invalidate that card and reissue one.
"We need that model across everything for identity. Imagine if you could do that with your social security number — how much better life would be," he said.
Underpinning a new trust economy
A blockchain-based self-sovereign identity network also has the potential to satisfy new, more stringent requirements for businesses to know with whom they're doing business.
So called "Know Your Customer" regulations were enacted over the past four to five years to address an increase in money laundering and terrorist activity funding. Through a blockchain identifier network, banks would have pre-verified who their customers are, and whether or not they're tied to any nefarious activities, Gunther said.
There are many blockchain specifications, and many of them are based on open-source software. The Sovrin Network is based on the Linux Foundation's Hyperledger Indy specification, which was built from the ground up for verifying a user's identity.
Blockchain networks, or distributed electronic ledgers, can protect the identity of users behind a randomly generated hash table, a type of cryptographically signed credential, to prove the digital identity information in the identity owner's possession. Once a business or organization has verified information about a person, a simple icon can be used approve a transaction.
Besides being used for bitcoin and other cryptocurrency transactions, blockchain has most recently been adopted for business transactions, such as automating supply-chain management and cross-border money exchanges.
In short, many businesses and governments believe blockchain could underpin a new trust economy, one constructed of person-to-person (P2P) transactions and not dependent on more traditional methods such as credit ratings or guaranteed cashier's checks.
"Rather, it relies on each transacting party's reputation and digital identity — the elements of which may soon be stored and managed in a blockchain," Deloitte analysts said in a recent report.
Permissioned blockchains — which, like a relational database, are centrally managed — can combat cybersecurity risks and protect "consumers' financial information and the integrity of the global financial system," the researchers said in a white paper highlighted in a Microsoft blog.
The distributed ledger technology, the paper argues, offers significant cybersecurity capabilities, as well as some of the same cyber risks that affect other IT systems, "all of which merit further evaluation by regulators and industry."
Senior Reporter Lucas Mearian covers financial services IT (including blockchain), healthcare IT and enterprise mobile issues (including mobility management, security, hardware and apps).
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Home / Inconvenient Facts / 1966 NASA Document Reveals Goal of Engineered “Climate Modification”
Posted on March 26, 2015 by eClinik Learning — 3 Comments
1966 NASA Document Reveals Goal of Engineered “Climate Modification”
The technology behind weather modification is easy to understand and implement. Almost every nation on the planet could do it.
Weather is affected by atmospheric pressure which is in turn affected by its temperature. If we can control atmospheric temperature, we can create weather disturbances at will and in any place we want.
We can literally heat up the sky by using directed beams of microwave frequencies. Increasing existing radio/TV broadcast power from 50 kilowatts to 5 gigawatts, and using microwave oven frequencies would do the job.
Using directed antennas, triangulated transmitters would enable us to steer a typhoon to any direction possible from their locations.
Radar systems can broadcast frequencies for defensive interceptions, or they can twist a knob and broadcast microwave frequencies to cook the sky.
Typhoon Haiyan wasn’t the first time we were attacked with HAARP by the United States which is supposedly our longtime ally. Every time we refuse to bow down to its imperialistic endeavors in the region, we suffer.
These facts are very hard to tell our people. But once they realize that these were all deliberate attacks on their lives, we couldn’t predict what exactly they would do.
Two Primary Documents Featured in this Story
“Present and Future Plans of Federal Agencies in Weather-Climate Modification”
This set of documents from 1966 reveals a network of government agencies in perpetual and secret collaboration and the military to Modify the Global climate. Created by the elitist National Academy of Sciences – decades of an inter-agency culture of secrecy explains why the issue of covert aerosol Geoengineering (chemtrails) is a taboo topic to be degraded to the status of “conspiracy theory” by a matrix of complicit bureaucrats at every opportunity. This is why the FAA, NOAA, NASA and your local TV “meteorologist” refuse to employ scientific observation when asked to comment on an unusual sky filled with bizarre aircraft spraying.
“The gradually accumulating evidence of positive results from efforts at weather modification led the Committee on Atmospheric Sciences of the National Academy of Sciences, in November 1963, to appoint a Panel on Weather and Climate Modification “to undertake a deliberate and thoughtful review of the present status and activities in this field and of its potential and limitations for the future.” – Page 6.
“The Evolution of a Weather Modification R&D program Into a Military Weapons System”
This Federation of American Scientists document is a 1986 Critique of the 1966 NASA initiative where the author (Leitenburg?) characterizes NASA’s Weather Mod Program as hijacked into a military weapons system. This document is one of several found in: Studies of Military R&D and Weapons Development by Milton Leitenberg, Senior Research Scholar – Center for International and Security Studies, University of Maryland, College Park. Leitenburg is author of several books. (Amazon Books)
A 2014 Book of important, relative interest: “The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science” by Tim Ball, PhD
It’s unacceptable that the UN/IPCC continue to push CO2 as the cause for climate change but refuse to acknowledge the military has been actively engaged in Climate Warming Weapons Technologies for decades.
Timeline For Deliberate Warming of the Arctic
1870: Standard Oil Corp. Inspired Proposals to Geoengineer a Warmer Arctic – Standard Oil Co. Inc. was an American oil producing, transporting, refining, and marketing company. Established in 1870 as a corporation in Ohio, it was the largest oil refiner in the world. Its controversial history as one of the world’s first and largest multinational corporations ended in 1911, when the United States Supreme Court ruled that Standard was an illegal monopoly.
1889: Jules Verne wrote about geoengineering the earth’s climate in 1889 in a sequel to “From the Earth to the Moon” called “The Purchase Of The North Pole”. Verne writes that the Baltimore Gun Club purchased large tracts of the Arctic then used the famous canon from the earth-to-the-moon to tilt the Earth’s axis. The goal was to establish a tropical paradise as a profitable tourist attraction at the North Pole while “improving” the entire global climate.
If Verne predicted that man would travel from the earth to the moon, it should be no surprise that he also predicted that a small group of influential men would consider warming the climate for profit.
1877: Verne could have been inspired by Harvard geologist Nathaniel Shaler who proposed diverting warm Atlantic water into the Arctic back in 1877 – a dozen years before Verne’s “fantastic”story was published and seven years after the formation of Standard Oil.
Warming the Arctic with large-scale Geoengineering projects has been the vision of industrialists for 100 years – and still is
Arctic detonation of 88 atmospheric, 29 underground, and 3 underwater nuclear devices from 1955 to 1990
Uploaded on Friday 17 Feb 2012 by GRID-Arendal – Nuclear activities in the Arctic over the last 50 years
From collection: Vital Arctic Graphics (2004 edition)
Author: Philippe Rekacewicz, UNEP/GRID-Arendal
Numerous nuclear explosions have taken place in the Arctic. One of the largest military nuclear testing facilities is on the island of Novaya Zemlya, where from 1955 through to 1990 the Soviet Union detonated 88 atmospheric, 29 underground, and 3 underwater nuclear devices. Dozens of civilian ‘peaceful nuclear explosions’ have also occured in the Russian Arctic, where nuclear bombs were used into the late 1980’s for seismic studies, mining, and in attempts to extinguish oil-field fires. (Source)
In 2008 – a year before low solar activity began to threaten 40 to 60 years of global cooling, the covert aerosol climate engineers were confident they could achieve a big arctic thaw for BIG OIL, a carbon tax and the politics of a United Nations led New World Order Bankster economy.
World Watch Institute: March, 2008: Arctic Melting May Lead To Expanded Oil Drilling
More than half of the Arctic Ocean was covered in year-round ice in the mid-1980s. Today, the ice cap is much smaller. Alarming evidence of this warming trend was released last week when the U.S. National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) released satellite evidence that perennial Arctic ice cover, as of February, rests on less than 30 percent of the ocean.
“The rate of sea-ice loss we’re observing is much worse than even the most pessimistic projections led us to believe,” says Carroll Muffett, deputy campaigns director with Greenpeace USA. For the first time in recorded history, this past summer the entire Northwest Passage between the Pacific and Atlantic oceans was ice-free, according to scientists. (Source)
Remember when People Thought Arctic Warming was a Good Idea?
VILLAGE VOICE: “ Hey, remember when climate change was a swell idea? Coconuts were in the offing.”
“Imaginations ran wild, and The Washington Post envisioned Manhattan becoming a tropical paradise” … “People would be gathering oranges off the trees in Central Park, or picking cocoanuts from palms along the Battery, [and] hunting crocodiles off the Statue of Liberty.”
The prospect sounded so splendid to New Yorkers that Senator William Calder (1917-1923) tried to get $100,000 appropriated for a study of the idea. Village Voice
Remember when Scientists Thought Arctic Warming was a Good Idea?
1962 Harry Wexler (March 15, 1911- 1962) was an MIT graduate and PhD in meteorology. Wexler had been researching the link connecting chlorine and bromine compounds to the destruction of the stratospheric ozone layers, but died of a heart attack while on vacation in Woods Hole, Mass. Wexler had already accepted an invitation to deliver a lecture entitled “The Climate of Earth and Its Modifications” at the University of Maryland Space Research and Technology Institute. (Source)
Wexler’s was last in a long line of ambitious proposals to warm the Arctic. Coincidently, his proposals were made at the same time the National Academy of Sciences was working to create a national weather modification program – a direction in which the military had already embarked in 1958.
“Global Warming” initiatives proposed by Wexler:
To increase the global temperature of the Earth by 1.7°C, “by injecting a cloud of ice crystals into the polar atmosphere by detonating 10 H-bombs in the Arctic Ocean – the subject of his 1958 article in Science magazine” (Wexler H., 1958, “Modifying Weather on a Large Scale,” Science, n.s. 128 (Oct. 31, 1958): 1059-1063).
To diminish the global temperature by 1.2°C could be doable, “by launching a ring of dust particles into equatorial orbit, a modification of an earlier Russian proposal to warm the Arctic”.
To destroy the ozone layer and hence increase abruptly the surface temperature of the Earth, by spraying “several hundred thousand tons of chlorine or bromine” with a stratospheric airplane. Fleming, 2007(a), pp. 56-57; Fleming, 2007(b), “note n° viii” p. 9 & p. 5 (source)
The decision to reverse direction from warming the arctic to cooling the arctic was announced in 1963 – the year following Wexler’s death when the National Academy of Sciences Committee on Atmospheric Sciences recommended appointment of a Panel on Weather & Climate Modification. pg 2
Prevailing Circumstances following WWII:
Operation Paperclip (Also called Operation Overcast) succeeded in recruiting scientists from Nazi Germany for employment in the US after WW II and led to the formation of NASA and the ICBM program.
The National Security Act passed in 1947 made possible the rise of the military industrial complex and creation of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA ) to increase opportunities for scientific experiments to be conducted without public knowledge or Congressional oversight.
Post-war advances in science and advanced physics opened up opportunities to develop concepts of advanced thinkers like Nikola Tesla that had been waiting on the shelf for over 50 years.
In 1958, military application of Tesla’s little known methods of electromagnetic manipulation of earth’s atmosphere was already underway. White House advisor on weather modification to President Eisenhower reported the DoD was studying ways to manipulate electrical charges of the earth and sky in order to manipulate the weather for purposes of national defense.
The rise of an informed and educated middle class looked down on proposals that employed nuclear detonations that became regarded as dangerous and arrogant. This is not to say that proposals to mediate the arctic climate were totally abandoned.
If warming the arctic was regarded as good for commerce for 100 years why would a discovery that found carbon dioxide was already performing the task for free, suddenly be regarded as a climate catastrophe to be prevented at all costs (to carbon taxpayers)?
The BP disaster in the Gulf of Mexico demonstrates how Big Oil exists in a world of opportunistic pragmatism, no matter the risk to the environment. With an established record of corporate sociopathy, Big Oil would have little interest in what event would cause arctic ice to retreat as long as their long-held dream of new arctic navigation routes and access to previously ice-locked oil and gas reserves was realized. It could make marginal difference if the arctic temperatures rise due to (1) rising CO2 levels or (2) covert arctic climate manipulation.
This timeline of determined Geoengineering projects suggests the goal of mediating arctic climate remains a favorite goal of the fossil fuel industry.
1877 Harvard geologist Nathaniel Shaler proposed channeling more of the warm Kuroshio Current through the Bering Strait to raise temperatures in the Polar region by 30 degrees.
1912, New York Engineer and Industrialist, Carroll Livingston Riker proposed building a 200 mile jetty off Newfoundland to increase the Gulf Stream’s flow into to the Arctic Basin with the added benefit that it would “shift” the axis of planet earth. The New York Times characterized the proposal as “amazing”… but not insane.
1929: Hermann Oberth, German-Hungarian physicist and engineer; Proposed building giant mirrors on a space station to focus the Sun’s radiation on Earth’s surface, making the far North habitable and freeing sea lanes to Siberian harbors.
1945; Julian Huxley, biologist and Secretary-General of UNESCO 1946-48; Proposed exploding atomic bombs at an appropriate height above the polar regions to raise the temperature of the Arctic Ocean and warm the entire climate of the northern temperate zone.
1946 Village Voice article from 2005 reporting on theMay, 1946 issue of Mechanix Illustrated that featured several arctic-warming geoengineering proposals. One “brave new idea” was proposed by Julian Huxley, then the Secretary-General of UNESCO, and brother of Aldous Huxley, that would detonate atomic bombs to warm the Arctic.
1958; M. Gorodsky, Soviet engineer and mathematician, and Valentin Cherenkov, Soviet meteorologist; Proposed placing a ring of metallic potassium particles into Earth’s polar orbit to diffuse light reaching Earth and increase solar radiation to thaw the permanently frozen soil of Russia, Canada, and Alaska and melt polar ice.
1958; Arkady Markin, Soviet engineer; Proposed that the United States and Soviet Union build a gigantic dam across the Bering Strait and use nuclear power–driven propeller pumps to push the warm Pacific current into the Atlantic by way of the Arctic Sea. Arctic ice would melt, and the Siberian and North American frozen areas would become temperate and productive.
1958 Russian Oil engineer, P.M. Borisov’s proposed melting the Arctic and Greenland icecaps by spreading black coal dust on the ice, creating cloud-cover across the poles to trap heat and to divert warm Atlantic waters into the polar regions. This scheme was taken seriously by Soviet climatologists. Two conferences were held in Leningrad in the early 1960′s following an initial meeting in Moscow by the Presidium of the USSR Academy of Sciences in 1959.
1958 Atlantic Richfield geologist L.M. Natland, proposed exploding up to 100 underground nuclear bombs to mine the Alberta Oil Sands. Heat from the detonations was expected to boil the bitumen deposits, reducing their viscosity to the point that standard drilling operations could be used. The plan was encouraged by US efforts to find “peaceful uses” for atomic energy. The project was approved in 1959 but the Canadian government reversed their decision in 1962 and declared that Canada was opposed to all forms of nuclear testing. In 2012 the Canadian Tar Sands are, again an issue of international concern.
It remains largely unexplained why decades of optimism for warming the arctic was suddenly replaced with a campaign of fear and doom for the consequences of warming the arctic under the name of “Global Warming”, then “climate change”, as the efforts to engineer warming failed.
In the 1960’s Geoengineering proposals to warm the Arctic took a largely unexplained U-turn when oceanographer, Roger Revelle’s research concluded that carbon dioxide was already warming the climate for free and without the need for expensive and risky geoengineering projects.
This U-Turn of direction appeared to be a setback with the exception of those stakeholders in the energy sector who had been invested in arctic warming projects for decades. Did the CO2 story finally promise to give Exxon, BP and Shell what they wanted?
If the science of Roger Revelle’s forecast for global warming turned out to be wrong or too slow, the DoD could step in – for reasons of national security – to assist arctic warming as secret component of the military’s classified weather modification and weapons program.
The 1996 Air Force document that forecasts “Owning the Weather in 2025” would not rule out using Tesla and plasma technologies to increase arctic temperatures in order to disadvantage a perceived enemy. A decision not to intervene might betray the military’s primary objective of “Full Spectrum Dominance”. After all, access to Oil and Gas has been a national security priority for decades.
In 1966, Dr. Gordon J. F. MacDonald was Chairman of the ICAS Select Panel on Weather and Climate Modification and wrote:
“Carbon dioxide placed in the atmosphere since the start of the industrial revolution has produced an increase in the average temperature of the lower atmosphere of a few tenths of a degree Fahrenheit.” Gordon MacDonald “Unless Peace Comes: How to Wreck the Environment. Source
MacDonald was referring to Roger Revelle and Hans Suess paper that reversed the debate from how to warm the arctic to how to avoid warming the arctic. Revelle’s ocean research reported a rise in carbon dioxide in earth’s atmosphere was allegedly a result of industrial age manufacturing and coal-burning.Source
Revelle had worked with the Navy in the late 1940’s to determine which projects gained funding and successfully promoted the idea that the Navy should invest more in “basic research”. Revelle was deeply involved in the global growth of oceanography. He was also one of the committee chairmen in the influential National Academy of Sciences studies of the “Biological Effects of Atomic Radiation” (BEAR), 1954-1964. Revelle’s world influence was significant as president of the Scientific Committee on Oceanic Research, an international group of scientists devoted to advising on international projects. Revelle and other scientists at Scripps Institution of Oceanography helped the U.S. government to plan nuclear weapons tests so that oceanographers might make use of the data. Source
The conclusions of the BEAR report were understandably significant for demonstrating the harmful biological and environmental damage of atomic radiation and could easily suffice to thwart geoengineering projects that recommended detonating H-bombs. But the evidence is weak that all intentions to mediate arctic climate was totally abandoned.
If the fundamental goal to warm the arctic remains an unspoken priority of national security in the energy sector, the project could be taken out of public view and committee oversight to become a classified operation in the development of the military’s weather warfare program – an initiative that was acknowledged by civilian weather modification programs formalized by the 1966 NASA and ICAS charter.
Since 1958 Congress and the military had already been working on exotic weather warfare systems that involved electromagnetic manipulation of the ionosphere.
US Congress, Senate, Committee on Inter-State and Foreign Commerce, Weather Modification Research, Hearing, Washington D.C. US Govt. Printing Offlce, March 18-19, 1958; Lowell Ponte quotes Capt. Orville as reporting “that the Dept. of Defense was studying ways to manipulate the charges of earth and sky and so affect the weather by means of an electronic beams to ionize or de-ionize the atmosphere over a given area” …. Capt. Orville also discussed ongoing US Air Force experiments with ‘sodium vapor, ejected from jet planes to intercept solar radiation ‘ over enemy countries and rain their weather. (The Cooling, op. cit. pp. 168-169 Source P. 42
The flip-flop from finding ways to warm the arctic to suddenly finding ways to keep the arctic from warming was announced in 1963 – the year following the sudden death of Meteorologist, Harry Wexler. Having total awareness of the military’s 1958 weather weapons program, the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) recommended the appointment of a “Panel on Weather and Climate Modification”. source This event could serve to consolidate military and civilian weather modification programs for peaceful purposes or – if necessary – as covert weather modification and even climate warming operations secretly carried out by the military under the catch-all justification of “national security”.
FOLLOW THE MONEY: Lobbyists for Big Oil publicly claim Global Warming is a hoax while quietly investing billions in new drilling opportunities due to the reality of receding arctic ice. The energy sector has made huge investments in ice-breakers and drilling equipment to profit from the very global warming they are reluctant to acknowledge. The position of having your cake while eating it is essential. When arctic climate warming is revealed as a military climate modification operation, big oil can fall back on “we told you so”. Since governments may come and go over the next 100 years, they calculate the demand for oil – and the companies who drill for it – will remain intact.
“As the polar ice cap retreats, energy companies are looking north for a potentially huge new source of crude” Source
“Shell is one of six companies planning to extract oil, gas and minerals in the Arctic as global warming melts ice and opens new sea lanes to commerce.” Source
“Remote and dangerous sources of arctic oil are becoming increasingly attractive as the global need for oil grows and the existing reserves dry up.” Source
Documents from 1966 reveal how the military and federal agencies are modifying the global climate.
TITLE: “Present and Future Plans of Federal Agencies in Weather-Climate Modification”
This set of documents from 1966 reveals a network of government agencies in perpetual and secret collaboration , working with the military to Geoengineer the climate. Created as an agenda of the elitist National Academy of Sciences – decades of an inter-agency culture of secrecy explains why the issue of covert aerosol Geoengineering is a taboo topic to be degraded to the status of “conspiracy theory” by every government agency in this web of complicit bureaucrats at every opportunity. This is why your local TV “meteorologist” will rarely make a helpful comment about an unusual sky filled with persistent jet trails.
1966, JUN: “Present and Future Plans of Federal Agencies in Weather-Climate Modification” Prepared by the ICAS select Panel on Weather Modification
1966: NOV: A Recommended National Program in Weather Modification – A Report to the Interdepartmental Committee for Atmospheric Sciences (ICAS) by Homer E. Newell – Associate Administrator for Space Science and Applications, NASA, Washington, D.C.
1966: APPENDIX I – Panel on Weather and Climate Modification to Committee on Atmospheric Sciences NAS-NRC – Membership Recommendations
1966: APPENDIX II – Special Commission on Weather Modification – National Science Foundation Membership Recommendations.
1966: APPENDIX III Report prepared by the ICAS Select Panel on Weather Modification; “Present and Future Plans of Federal Agencies in Weather-Climate Modification,” dated June 20, 1966
1966: APPENDIX IV Memorandum for Dr. Homer E. Newel1 from J. Herbert Hollomon, Chairman, ICAS, Subject: National Weather Modification Program, dated June 21, 1966
1966: APPENDIX V NASA Panel to Study Weather Modification Activities; Membership, Chronology of Meetings, and a Compilation of Supporting Material used by the Panel
1966: APPENDIX VI Budget Recommendations and Trends for a National Weather Modification Program
1966 – NASA: A Recommended National Program in Weather Modification – A report to the Independent Committee for Atmospheric Sciences (ICAS) by Homer E. Newell – Associate administrator for Space Science and Applications, NASA, Washington, DC.
In 1966, a report from NASA to ICAS (Independent Committee for Atmospheric Sciences of the National Academy of Sciences, NAS) was the first step in establishing a national Weather modification program that would ultimately involve multiple federal agencies. The report focused on four initial agencies: ESSA, NSF, NASA, and the Dept. of Interior’s Bureau of Reclamation.
Under Recommended Principals it was noted that (a) each agency would be independently funded while stressing inter-agency cooperation in research. Independent funding of agencies could make the program less conspicuous and more difficult for Congress to defund. Also, new agencies could be brought on board without high profile budget hearings. (b) A designated “central” agency – while having responsibility for focusing the national program – would not have any real authority to implement programs, leaving those decisions to probable unidentified civilian lobbyists and DoD “stakeholders”.
Although the theme of the ICAS report is in the context of protecting water, agriculture, forests, lands and natural resources, the knowledge gained from climate manipulation was of more immediate interest to the military and their industrial complex.
Thirty years following the creation of the Nation Program in Weather Modification, the US Air Force published a document (“Owning The Weather in 2025” ) establishing that federal agencies involved in the National Weather Modification program are under tacit authority of the Department of Defense.
Owning the Weather in 2025 – Opening Statement: Current technologies that will mature over the next 30 years will offer anyone who has the necessary resources the ability to modify weather patterns and their corresponding effects, at least on the local scale. Current demographic, economic, and environmental trends will create global stresses that provide the impetus necessary for many countries or groups to turn this weather-modification ability into a capability.
In the United States, weather-modification will likely become a part of national security policy with both domestic and international applications. Our government will pursue such a policy, depending on its interests, at various levels. These levels could include unilateral actions, participation in a security framework such as NATO, membership in an international organization such as the UN, or participation in a coalition. Assuming that in 2025 our national security strategy includes weather-modification, its use in our national military strategy will naturally follow. Besides the significant benefits an operational capability would provide, another motivation to pursue weather-modification is to deter and counter potential adversaries.
In this paper we show that appropriate application of weather-modification can provide battlespace dominance to a degree never before imagined. In the future, such operations will enhance air and space superiority and provide new options for battlespace shaping and battlespace awareness.1 “The technology is there, waiting for us to pull it all together;”2 in 2025 we can “Own the Weather
A 1986 Critique of the 1966 National Weather Modification Initiative
Case Study 2: “The Evolution of a Weather Modification R&D program Into a Military Weapons System”
This Federation of American Scientists document is intended as a critique of the US Weather Modification Program that characterizes as hijacked into a military weapons system.
For over 100 years, experts and authors were advocating geoengineering projects warm the arctic. The public, at large, was entertained by these concepts even when suggestions to detonate hydrogen bombs over the north pole were advocated by a nationally recognized weather expert in 1962.
It’s revealing that initial proposals to solve the newly discovered CO2 “warming” problem had less to do with cutting back on carbon emissions and more to do with a rush to release toxic atmospheric aerosols without first, researching the hazards. The specter of polluting the atmosphere, blocking sunlight and causing the release of huge volumes of CO2 from the jet aircraft aerosol sorties is an obvious public health concern that requires years of research the government was unwilling to legislate and fund. Therefore, the impatience with which these chemical aerosol schemes have been promoted suggests that emergency steps to cool the planet with aerosols has long been regarded as a tantalizing primary mission.
In 1962, Geoenginnering efforts to warm the arctic were widely entertained but in 1966 it was top priority to prevent the arctic from warming by even one degree.
Trojan Horse?: Under the military’s vision to Own the Weather Weather in 2025 atmospheric warming with ionospheric and plasma weapons is an established capability. The numerous agencies inside the National Weather and Climate Modification program are actively guarding the military’s aerosol and energy weapons program with stiff denials to the public and media whenever the issue of “chemtrails” is a story on local radio or TV stations.
It’s unacceptable that the UN/IPCC continue to push CO2 as the cause for climate change but refuse to acknowledge the military has been actively engaged in climate modification since the mid 1990’s?
An abrupt reversal of policy from promoting arctic climate mediation to preventing Global Warming resulted in ideas that both polluted the atmosphere AND became a source of Global Warming.
Just as the ICAS/NASA National Weather Modification program is being formalized the record shows most ideas to cool the planet suddenly involve bazaar schemes to spray or disburse particles, biology and dust into the atmosphere and oceans. These are the same people who – just a few months earlier, were eagerly lining up to hear Wexler talk about ways to warm the planet with hydrogen bombs, destruction of the OZONE and orbital particles.
While most of us realize that many of these proposals from respected experts would be catastrophic to the environment, not all of these draconian ideas have been rejected, even as increasing evidence determines that deploying chemicals into the atmosphere does more harm than good.
Deployment of geoengineering aerosols as observed in practice for two decades is now regarded as a source of global warming – not a fix.:
Geoengineering Aerosols Are Warming the Atmosphere and Are a Source of Global Warming
In 1999, Climate Scientist, Joyce Penner published a study that determined Jet Aircraft Contrails and high Cirrus clouds produce a net warming of surface temperatures. Dr. Penner’s status as a climate scientist on the UN International Panel on Climate Change implies a consensus on the issue of contrails and high thin couds warming the atmosphere to affect climate change. (Article)
In 2007, investigator, Cliff Carnicom calculated the impact of the current unacknowledged aerosol deployment into the atmosphere and concludes:
“It can be seen from this model that the results of artificial aerosol introduction into the lower atmosphere can be of a magnitude quite on par with the extraordinary impacts projected by even modest and conservative global warming models upon humans in the near future. As the model presented herein is intended to be reasonably conservative, the impact of the aerosol operations could be much greater than these results show. It is advised that the citizens consider the viability and merit of this model in the examination of the global warming issue, and that they openly take aggressive action to halt the intentional aerosol operations.
This paper is late in its offering, as my availability for continued research at this level is limited. I am nevertheless hopeful that the information can be evaluated and assimilated into the many rationales and arguments that have developed over the last decade to cease the intentional alteration of the atmosphere of our planet.” – Cliff Carnicom Complete study
Geoengineering Proposals to Warm the Arctic Are Replaced by Fear of Global Warming
1965; President’s Science Advisory Committee, United States; Proposal: Investigated injecting condensation or freezing nuclei into the atmosphere to counteract the effects of increasing carbon dioxide.
1977; Cesare Marchetti, Italian industrial physicist; Coined the term “geoengineering” and proposed sequestering CO2 in the deep ocean.
1983; Stanford Penner, A. M. Schneider, and E. M. Kennedy, American physicists; Suggested introducing small particles into the atmosphere to reflect more sunlight back into space.
1988; John H. Martin, American oceanographer; Proposed dispersing a relatively small amount of iron into appropriate areas of the ocean to create large algae blooms that could take in enough atmospheric carbon to reverse the greenhouse effect and cool Earth.
1989; James T. Early, American climatologist suggested deflecting sunlight by 2 percent with a $1 trillion to $10 trillion “space shade” placed in Earth orbit.
1990; John Latham, British cloud physicist; Proposed seeding marine stratocumulus clouds with seawater droplets to increase their reflectivity and longevity.
1992; NAS Committee on Science, Engineering, and Public Policy proposed adding more dust to naturally occurring stratospheric dust to increase the net reflection of sunlight.
1998: International Space Station (ISS): The first modular component of the International Space Station (ISS) was launched and is the current (in 2012) habitable artificial satellite in low Earth orbit following the Salyut, Almaz, Skylab and Mir. (1998 ISS mission consistent with same year increase in jet aerosol public observations and complaints) The stated function of the SSI is to provide an international space platform for research and experimentation in the fields of biology, human biology, physics, astronomy, meteorology (weather) and other fields.
2010: Geoengineer, David Keith (AAAS Meeting) proposal to use jet aircraft to spray Sulfur dioxide and aluminum nano-particles into the atmosphere to reflect sunlight back into space.
In 1968, Gordon J. F. MacDonald authored a chapter in “Unless Peace Comes“ where he correctly predicted that future means of obtaining national objectives by force hinges on man’s ability to control and manipulate the environment of planet Earth.
“When achieved, this power over his environment will provide man with a new force capable of doing great and indiscriminate damage. Our present primitive understanding of deliberate environmental change makes it difficult to imagine a world in which geophysical warfare is practised. Such a world might be one in which nuclear weapons were effectively banned and the weapons of mass destruction were those of environmental catastrophe. As I will argue, these weapons are peculiarly suited for covert or secret wars.”
“To consider the consequences of environmental modification in struggles among nations, we need to consider the present state of the subject and how postulated developments in the field could lead, ten to fifty years from now, to weapons systems that would use nature in new and perhaps unexpected ways. “
More Than Owning the Weather in 2025
The confidence and enthusiasm expressed in the USAF 1996 document: Owning the Weather in 2025 was supported by the advent of scalar weapons technologies during the Reagan Star War years. The document promises: “weather-modification can provide battlespace dominance to a degree never before imagined. The “never before imagined” comment speaks directly to the HAARP ionospheric heater facility, the Bernard Eastlund patents and military strategies for global military dominance. This scenario of weather control harkens to the predictive warning from Gordon MacDonald in chapter in the book: Unless Peace Comes: How to Wreck the Environment. Source
Timeline for Owning the Weather: From 1987-1992 ATPI scientists build on Bernard Eastlund’s patents for development of new weapon capabilities
In 1994 ATPI is bought by E-Systems with a contract to build the biggest ionospheric heater in the world (HAARP). — In 1995, Raytheon bought E-Systems and old APTI patents. — In 1996 the Air Force publishes: Owning The Weather in 2025
In his 2011 book, Here on Earth: A Natural History of the Planet, scientist and author, Tim Flannery reminds us that proposals to melt the Icecaps were advanced after World War II by reputable figures including the first director-general of UNESCO (Julian Huxley-1946), by a top official at the U.S. Weather Bureau, and by a Russian oil engineer Petr Mikhailovich Borisov. Scientific conferences debated the merits, while mining and energy corporations contemplated the use of nuclear detonations in the extraction of coal and oil.
Reputable figures in the international community saw an opportunity to detonate nuclear weapons as a novel and constructive way to geoengineer the Arctic. The prevailing rationale to justify method included: (1) The arctic is nearly too cold to be habitable by humans (2) The polar ice cap blocks valuable shipping lanes. (3) The expanses of frigid water up North contributes to uncomfortably cold winters in many countries. (4) difficulty of drilling for oil through ice.
The idea was publicly floated as a “peaceful use” of atomic weapons.
Flannery offers this example as evidence of humanity’s seeming propensity for hastening its own extinction.
Here on Earth: A Natural History of the Planet – By Tim Flannery. Book Reviewby Mark Engler
Russian Oil engineer, P.M. Borisov’s Proposed Method of Melting the Arctic Icecap
Borisov’s idea: If the Arctic ice is once melted much less of the sun’s radiation will be reflected out into space and therefore the arctic ice cap will not re-form. An ice-free Arctic Ocean would be a great boon to oceanic shipping, especially between Europe and East Asia. Much land in northern Canada and Siberia would be freed of permafrost and made suitable for agriculture. Borisov believed that an ice-free Arctic Ocean would lead to increased evaporation of water and hence increased rainfall worldwide, including the region of Sahara Desert leading to grass growing there. Borisov considers all of the impacts of the melting of the Arctic ice cap to be beneficial. He asserts that the melting of the Greenland ice cap would raise sea levels at a rate of only 1.5 to 2 mm per year.
This scheme was taken seriously by Soviet climatologists. Two conferences were held in Leningrad in the early 1960′s following an initial meeting in Moscow by the Presidium of the USSR Academy of Sciences in 1959. Borisov’s suggestions to warm the arctic included:
Covering great areas of the Arctic with black powders such as coal dust (G. Veksler, 1959) (Carbon Black?)
Dispersing the cloud cover over the central Arctic Basin (D. Fletcher, 1958) (Geoengineering Aerosols?)
Deepening of the Thomson Sill (V.N. Stepanov, 1963)
Covering the water surface with a monomolecular film (M. Budyko, 1962)
Installations to direct warmer Atlantic water into the Kara Sea (V.P. P’yankov, 1965)
Pumping cold Arctic water into the Pacific to draw warm Atlantic water into the Arctic Basin (P.M. Borisov, c. 1968)
This concept also required construction of a dam across the Bering Strait. Source: P.M. Borisov, “Can we Control the Arctic Climate?”, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, March, 1969, pp. 43-48.
In a related scheme, a proposal was floated to store nuclear waste in the Antarctic. The plan would allow specially designed canisters of hot radioactive waste to melt down through the ice until it reached the “ice-rock interface” where it would supposedly remain in cold storage for 250,000 years.
The following Timeline is from the book, “Angels Don’t Play This HAARP” Advances in Tesla Technology by Jeanne Manning and Dr. Nick Begich and contains disturbing facts about the little known history of our Government’s use of scalar technologies to modify the weather. Additional events and links were inserted in 2012 to update the list.
Timeline of public and covert testing and development of energy weapons
1886-8: Nikola Tesla invents system of Alternating Current power source and transmission system. As 60-pulse-per-second (hertz) AC power grids spread over the land, Earth’s resonance frequency will eventually dance to a different beat than her usual 7-8 hertz .
1900: Tesla applies for patent for a device to transmit Electrical Energy “Through the Natural Mediums”. U.S. Patent #787,412 issued in 1905
1924: Confirmation that radio waves bounce off ionosphere (electrically-charged layer starting at altitude of 50 kilometers).
1938: Scientist proposes to light up night sky by electron gyrotron heating from a powerful transmitter.
1940: Tesla announces “death ray” invention.
1945: Atomic bomb tests begin 40,000 electromagnetic pulses to follow.
1952: W.O. Schumann identifies 7.83 hertz resonant frequency of the earth.
1958: Van Allen radiation belts discovered (zones of charged particles trapped in earth’s magnetic field) 2,000+ miles up. VA Belt violently disrupted with nuclear detonations
1958: Project Argus, U.S. Navy explodes 3 nuclear bombs in Van Allen belt.
1958: As far back as 1958, the chief White House adviser on weather modification, Captain Howard T. Orville, said the DoD was studying “ways to manipulate the charges of the Earth and sky and so affect the weather by using an electronic beam to ionise or de-ionise the atmosphere over a given area.
1960: Series of weather disasters begin.
1961 – Project Skywater – Bureau of Reclamation (water) cloud seeding project funded by Congress.
1961: Copper needles dumped into ionosphere as “telecommunications shield”.
1961: Scientists propose artificial ion cloud experiments. In 1960′s the dumping of chemicals (barium powder etc.) from satellites/rockets began.
1961-62: Soviets and USA blast many EMPs in atmosphere, 300 megatons of nuclear devices deplete ozone layer estimated at 4%.
1962: Launch of Canadian satellites and start of stimulating plasma resonances by antennas within the space plasma.
1966, June, Report to ICAS by ICAS Select Panel – Chair, Gordon JF MacDonald. “Future plans of Federal Agencies in Weather and Climate Modification.”
1966, Nov, report from NASA to ICAS (Independent Comm. for Atmospheric Sciences of the Nat. Academy of Sciences, NAS) was first step in establishing a National Weather Modification program
1966: Gordon J. F. MacDonald publishes military ideas on environmental engineering. MacDonald was Chair of the ICAS Select Panel on Weather and Climate Modification.
1960′s: In Wisconsin, US Navy Project Sanguine lays ELF antennae.
1968: Moscow scientists tell the West that Soviets pinpointed which pulsed magnetic field frequencies help mental and physiological functions and which do harm.
1968: Gordon JF MacDonald authors chapter in book: “Unless peace Comes – a scientific forecast of new weapons” MacDonald was Chair of the ICAS Select Panel on Weather and Climate Modification.
1969: Hail Suppression Data from Western North Dakota, 1969–1972 South Dakota School of Mines and Technology, Rapid City.
1972: First reports on “ionospheric heater” experiments with high frequency radio waves, at Arecibo. 100-megawatt heater in Norway built later in decade; can change conductivity of auroral ionosphere.
1972: Potential Value of Satellite Cloud Pictures in Weather Mod. Projects – Report prepared for NASA by Institute of Atmospheric Sciences South Dakota School of Mines and Technology Rapid City.
1973: Documentation that launch of Skylab and associated rocket exhaust gases `’halved the total electron content of the ionosphere for three hours.
1973: Recommendations for study of Project Sanguine’s biological effects denied by Navy.
1974: United Nations General Assembly bans environmental warfare. ENMOD
1974: High-frequency experiments at Plattesville, Colorado; Arecibo, Puerto Rico; and, Armidale, New South Wales heat “bottom side of ionosphere”.
1974: Experiments airglow brightened by hitting oxygen atoms in ionosphere with accelerated electrons.
1975: Evaluation of Monte Carlo Tests of Effectiveness of Cloud Seeding on Growing Season Rainfall in North Dakota.
1975: Stanford professor Robert Helliwell reports that VLF from power lines is altering the ionosphere.
1975: U. S. Senator Gaylord Nelson forces Navy to release research showing that ELF transmissions can alter human blood chemistry.
1975: Pell Senate Subcommittee urges that weather and climate modification work be overseen by civilian agency answerable to U.S. Congress. No action taken.
1975: Soviets begin pulsing “Woodpecker” ELF waves, at key brainwave rhythms. Eugene, Oregon, one of locations where people were particularly affected.
1976: Drs. Susan Bawin and W. Ross Adey show nerve cells affected by ELF fields.
1977: Environmental Impacts of Precipitation Management – Inferences to Project Skywater
1979: Launch of NASA’s third High-Energy Astrophysical Observatory causes large-scale, artificially-induced depletion in the ionosphere. Plasma hole caused by “rapid chemical processes” between rocket exhaust and ozone layer.” …“ionosphere was significantly depleted over a horizontal distance of 300 km for some hours.”
1979: Annotated Bibliography of Predictor Variables for Weather Modification Applications – Funded by NSF Grant ATM 79-05007 pub., Illinois State Water Survey, Urbana.
1985: Bernard J. Eastlund applies for patent “Method and Apparatus for Altering a Region in the Earth’s Atmosphere, ionosphere and/or Magnetosphere,” (First of 3 Eastlund patents assigned to ARCO Power Technologies Inc.)
1986: US Navy Project Henhouse duplicates Delgado (Madrid) experiment — very low-level, very-low-frequency pulsed magnetic fields harm chick embryos. 20
1987: In the later part of the decade the U.S. begins network of Ground Wave Emergency Network (GWEN) towers, each to generate Very Low Frequency (VLF) waves for defense purposes .
1987-92: Other APTI scientists build on Eastlund patents for development of new weapon capabilities.
1994: Military contractor E-Systems buys APTI, holder of Eastlund patents and contract to build biggest ionospheric heater in world (HAARP).
1994: Congress freezes funding on HAARP until planners increase emphasis on earth-penetrating tomography uses, for nuclear counter proliferation efforts. (Oil and gas exploration)
1995-1997: Public complaints accumulate across the US regarding unusual cloud formations and sudden increase in observable persistent jet contrails that appear unnaturally under dry atmospheric conditions. These observations are accompanied by complaints of biological specimens and web formations that appear to fall from the sky. Many instances of qualified lab analysis reveal high concentration of aluminum, barium and other elements that are consistent with DoD electromagnetic experiments
1995: Raytheon buys E-Systems and old APTI patents. The technology is now hidden among thousands of patents within one of the largest defense contractor portfolios.
1995: Congress budgets $10 million for 1996 under “nuclear counter-proliferation” efforts for HAARP project.
1995: Test of patent number 5,041,834 to generate an Artificial Ionospheric Mirror (AIM), or a plasma layer in the atmosphere. The AIM is used like the ionosphere to reflect RF energy over great distances.
1994-6: Testing of first-stage HAARP (euphemistically named High frequency Active Auroral Research Program) equipment continues, although funding was frozen.
1996: HAARP scientists test the earth-penetrating tomography applications by modulating the electroject at Extremely Low Frequencies (ELF)
1998: Projected date for fully-operating HAARP system.
2009: Operation HAMP – Department of Homeland Security operation to Modify and Steer Hurricanes with Geoengineering Aerosols
2012: Celebrating 50 years of Success. A Compilation of highlights from the Institute of Atmospheric Sciences at South Dakota School of Mines & Technology Rapid City.
The World is Waking Up to State Crimes of Climate Warming and Violent Weather by Combinations of Powerful Electromagnetic Energy Weapons and Aerosol Climate Change Engineering
It was in the mid- 1990’s when the US public a were suddenly confronted with unexplained changes in the sky that included bazaar new cloud formations and new types of jet contrails that persisted in the skies for hours even while the relative humidity was very low at the altitudes where the jets were flying. These observed changes were coincident with events following the 1994 E-Systems purchase of APTI, also holder of plasma physicist, Bernard Eastlund’s patents and contracts to build the world’s largest ionospheric heater (HAARP).
The history of the 1966 National weather Modification Program and the coincidence of events around the time of bazaar new cloud formations is sufficient reason to pursue the relationship of persistent jet aerosols to the ionospheric heater experiments at the HAARP facility and Gakona, AK, Aricebo, PR and many more similar facilities brought online in recent years.
The ongoing depletion of earth’s protective OZONE layer is a known risk to manipulation of the ionosphere with powerfully heated beams of electromagnetic radiation. Pollution from the Shuttle missions, alone has accounted for rapid ozone depletion according to NASA’s own documents.
Further damage results when chemical aerosols deployed over either polar region traps heat in the troposphere resulting in a rise in surface temperatures to endanger normal formation of seasonal ice with an associated plunge in stratospheric temperatures into the range of -109 deg. F. with the formation of chemically contaminated ice crystals that react with sunlight to further deplete the OZONE.
From 2009 to 2012 persistent jet chemical aerosols are clearly observed over the North Polar regions on many satellite images and ground-based photographs. It is no surprise that NASA now reports new OZONE depletion in far northern latitudes where none was previously detected.
It’s no secret that government agencies, the military and commercial interests of the US and abroad have invested in a radical scalar system of weather modification that is now revealed to have far too many unintended negative consequences to sustain life on earth.
Continuation of this vast and terra-deforming aerosol geoengineering operation will only confirm that one agenda is to deplete the arctic ice – a concept that has been embraced by influential men, Oil companies and nations for nearly 100 years.
The government, military, IPCC, UN and corporate stakeholders can no longer pretend to be desperately concerned about global warming and climate change while the world is waking up to realize these same entities are participating in the deployment of electromagnetic weapons and aerosols of massive climate destruction as a monstrous and Orwellian hoax on humanity.
World Wide Watch Institute, 2014:
In the seas north of Russia and Alaska, expanded oil-and-gas development is already under way. The U.S. Department of Interior last month sold a record-breaking $2.6 billion in development bids throughout the Chukchi Sea, just above the Bering Strait. Additional sales are scheduled for 2010 and 2012. As companies move into the Arctic to search for energy reserves or to create new shipping lanes, the potential environmental impacts could be huge. Balton acknowledged that shifting ice and coastal erosion makes exploration and development risky. “It’s definitely a dangerous area to maneuver. An oil spill would be really hard to clean up,” he said. *** Continue
2012: Discovery Channel Airs Weather Control, Aerosols and Interview with Michael Murphy
1968 – Unless Peace Comes – How to Wreck the Environment – Chapter by Gordon J.F. MacDonald
2011 – Here On Earth: A Natural History of the Planet – Flannery, 2011 – by Tim Flannery
Discovery of Global Warming Roger Revelle – 1957 paper started the discussion even while warming the arctic was being considered.
Coleman’s Corner : John Coleman – Meteorologist and original owner of the Weather Channel is an expert on the work of Oceanographer, Roger Revelle who – later in life – recanted his earlier conclusion that CO2 is a significant global warming gas..
Stormy Weather – The Government’s Top-Secret Efforts To Control Mother Nature-12-22-2001 by Bob Fitrakis and Fritz Chess ColumbusAlive.com 12-22-2001
Are Humans doomed to Destroy Themselves? Tim Fannery’s book: HERE ON EARTH A natural history of the planet
Historical perspective on atmospheric engineering. A periodization, Régis Briday PhD Student at Centre Alexandre Koyré(PPT)
Polar Eclipse; Village Voice article features May 1946 Mechanix Illustrated “using atomic bombs to warm the arctic”.
Arctic oil rush: The new global petroleum race will shape Alaska’s future.
HAARP.net Nick Begich Website – Angels Don’t Play this HAARP
Global Research: Extensive Archives on Climate Change, Weather Modification and Chemtrails
HAARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program)
HAARP University( High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program).
HAARP 101: The World’s Sexiest Energy Weapon
http://rezn8d.net/2012/01/04/haarp-the-worlds-sexiest-energy-weapon/
HAARP 201: Timeline: An Animated History of Ionospheric Destruction
http://rezn8d.net/2012/01/20/haarp-timeline-an-animated-history-of-ionospheri…
HAARP 301: The Sonic Weapon of Vladimir Gavreau — Tesla, LRAD, and HAARP
http://rezn8d.net/2012/02/15/the-sonic-weapon-of-vladimir-gavreau-tesla-lrad-…
HAARP 401: Directed Energy Weapons 101: Infrasonic, Sonic, Microwave & Laser
http://rezn8d.net/2012/02/15/directed-energy-weapons-101-infrasonic-sonic-mic…
HAARP 501: Project Nimbus & The Fire of the Gods
http://rezn8d.net/2012/03/06/haarp-project-nimbus-and-the-fire-of-the-gods/
HAARP 601: HAARP + DARPA = Team Thundercats
http://rezn8d.net/2012/03/21/darpa-haarp-team-thundercats/
HAARP 701: Resonations from the Moon
http://rezn8d.net/2012/03/27/haarp-resonations-from-the-moon/
HAARP 801: Russian President wields Zombie Apocalypse weapon!
http://rezn8d.net/2012/04/05/russian-president-wields-zombie-apocalypse-weapon/
HAARP 901: “Tales from the Crypt” Deleted Internet Pages
http://rezn8d.com/haarp/haarpgate.html
VIDEO TRANSCRIPT:
Nikola Tesla, Inventor of the Death Ray, died in Jan, 1943 wherein the FBI took possession of his papers and documents.
After WWII, Operation “Overcast” (Later named operation Paper Clip) was a US program to employ NAZI regime scientists in US laboratories.
The National Security Act, passed in 1947 Created the Central Intelligence Agency and made possible the rise of the military industrial complex
to increase opportunities for scientific experiments to be conducted without public knowledge or Congressional oversight.
In 1958, the military announced they were experimenting on the ionosphere with electronic beams for the purpose of manipulating the weather.
In 1962 Respected Meteorologist Harry Wexler proposed geoengineering strategies to warm the planet.
In 1963 the National Academy of Scientists proposed formation of a panel to create a “National Weather and Climate Modification Program”.
In 1966 Plans to warm the arctic were abandoned without comment to be replaced with warnings that CO2 was already causing the atmosphere to get warmer.
This video introduces the article. Global Warming Linked to Advanced Climate Change Technology.
The title sounds provocative but NASA has concluded that man-made, persistent contrails are exacerbating global warming and could contribute to long-term changes in Earth’s climate.
The article explores the forgotten history of America’s National Weather and Climate Modification Program – Still in existence – and how it rapidly evolved into a military/civilian weather warfare program of mass destruction.
The documentation and subsequent critique reveals a program that went into rapid mission creep when the military became involved. The critique was drafted in 1986 by a member of the Union of Atomic Scientists.
The record shows that industrialists and their scientists have been looking for ways to warm the arctic for 100 years beginning in 1877 when Harvard geologist Nathaniel Shaler proposed diverting warm Atlantic water into the Arctic Sea.
Decades of arctic warming proposals followed until 1962 when respected MIT meteorologist, Harry Wexler proposed 3 schemes to increase the global temperature of the Earth by 1.7°C,:
(1) Detonate 10 hydrogen bombs in the arctic ocean to send ice crystals into the polar atmosphere
(2) Destroy the ozone layer by using aircraft to spray chlorine or bromine into the stratosphere .
(3) Launch dust particles into equatorial orbit to diffuse light to heat to warm the polar regions.
These ideas sound pretty frightening today, but in 1962 Wexler’s ideas were gaining traction and nobody “important” was calling him a lunatic. But following Wexler’s untimely death that same year the problem of how to warm the planet completely reversed polarity.
Suddenly – and without explanation – it was now imperative to find ways to cool the planet and to keep the atmosphere from warming.
The U-turn in national direction came about when a paper was published by oceanographer, Roger Revelle who claimed earth’s atmosphere was warming due to a buildup of carbon dioxide from burning coal back in the industrial age.
The new narrative became “official” for media consumption in 1966 when Gordon MacDonald – Chairman of the new ICAS Select Panel on Weather and Climate Modification stated: “Carbon dioxide placed in the atmosphere since the start of the industrial revolution has produced an increase in the average temperature of the lower atmosphere of a few tenths of a degree Fahrenheit.”
Wexler’s proposals to warm the planet were never mentioned again but remained quietly popular with stakeholders in the oil and energy markets who had always seen vast opportunities for new shipping lanes and drilling as soon as the ice melted a bit.
In view of NASA’s position that man-made persistent contrails are exacerbating global warming – what are we to think?
If these man-made clouds are normal water vapor we have a problem that accelerates global warming. But If the problem can be fixed, and no government authority has yet thought it was important enough to take immediate action we can reasonably assume that warming the climate with persistent contrails is a tolerable or even desired outcome.
And if If man-made clouds are revealed to be chemical aerosols deliberately sprayed into the atmosphere we can reasonably assume that heating the atmosphere is a hidden agenda inside a covert aerosol operation that mimics the appearance of a geoengineering plan to cool the planet. In reality, the chemical aerosol operations provide plausible deniability to spectators that our benevolent government is secretly spraying the skies to test ways to mitigate global warming for the good of humanity.
This plausible deniability is taught to us through media coverage of geoengineers lake David Keith who presents aerosol “cooling” strategies in frequent public appearances that are – in turn – presented as news in multiple media sources..
So, the agenda to warm the planet is cleverly hidden in plain sight disguised as an undisclosed but benevolent government program to test aerosol spraying to cool the planet if we should ever decide it’s necessary. Meanwhile, arctic ice continues to retreat despite decades of “testing”.
Aerosols are not the sole requirement in advanced climate change technology. High energy ionospheric heaters, Tesla Arrays, and exotic electromagnetic devices are required to interact with chemical aerosols in ways that normal water vapor contrails never could.
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Great post. everyone should know that global warming is the desired outcome of the industrialists and Oligarchs.
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CDU › About CDU › Strategic Services and Governance › Council, Academic Board and Other Committees › Council
The University's principal governing body is the Council, comprising 15 members. The Council is led by the Chancellor and Deputy Chancellor, elected by the Council members. It is responsible for the governance of the University, acts in its best interest, drives performance through strategy and stewardship, provides overall strategic guidance and oversees senior management in carrying out that strategic direction.
The Council operates in accordance with the Charles Darwin University Act 2003 which sets out the powers and functions of the University and how these must be performed.
The Council meets regularly, and meeting agendas include matters that require Council's attention and decision. Papers are prepared for Council's consideration in advance of these meetings. In some cases, management will be invited to attend meetings to present on relevant items.
Council papers should be concise standalone documents that provide the information that the Council requires to fully understand the issues being raised and where required, to make an appropriately informed decision that meets the needs of the University.
The Council is served by the University Secretary, and demonstrates a commitment to good governance practices. For further information about any aspect of the Council, including scheduling or submission of papers, contact:
Mr Ross Springolo
University Secretary
E: ross.springolo@cdu.edu.au
Procedures for the appointment and election of members are prescribed under the Charles Darwin University Election of Members of Council By-laws 2009 (PDF 46KB).
Council membership consists of:
Chairperson of the Academic Board
eight members appointed by the Administrator
four elected members, comprised of:
one person elected by and from the full-time higher education academic staff of the University
one person elected by and from the full-time VET (TAFE) academic staff of the University
one person elected by and from the undergraduate students of the University
one person elected by and from the postgraduate students of the University
The Council is also required to ensure that among its members, there is a diverse range of skills and experience with a broad range of community interests, including expertise in education and vocational training, research and technology, and financial and commercial expertise.
Council members must act solely in the interests of the University and not as a delegate or representative of a particular constituency when exercising a power or performing a function of office.
University Chancellors Council
Member Appointment Term
The Honourable Paul Henderson AO Chancellor
Professor Simon Maddocks Vice-Chancellor
Dr Aggie Wegner Chair Academic Board 1 January 2018 - 31 December 2021
Members Appointed by the Administrator (Term - 3 Years to and From Date Appointed)
Professor Judith Whitworth AC 28 September 2018 - 28 September 2021
Mr Ken Davies June 2019 - June 2022
Mr Alan Morris AO 28 September 2018 - 28 September 2021
Mr Richard Ryan AO Deputy Chancellor June 2019 - June 2022
Ms Jodie Ryan 18 August 2017 - 18 August 2020
Members Elected by the Academic Staff (Term - 3 Years From 1 Jan After Election)
Mrs Leena Kesava Panicker Full-time higher education academic staff 01 January 2018 - 31 December 2019
Mr Raymond Simpson Full-time VET academic staff 01 January 2017 - 31 December 2019
Members Elected by the Students (Term - 1 Year From 1 Jan After Election)
Mr Mayank Sharma Postgraduate student 01 January 2019 - 31 December 2019
Mr Benjamin Poveda-Alfonso Undergraduate student 01 January 2019 - 31 December 2019
Council Secretary
Mr Ross Springolo University Secretary
Under the Charles Darwin University Act 2003, Council has the authority to establish committees to assist in the exercise of its functions.
There are seven standing Committees of Council:
Audit and Risk Committee Terms of Reference (PDF 62KB)
For further information on any aspect of the Audit and Risk Committee, including scheduling or submission of papers, contact:
Executive Committee of Council
Executive Committee of Council Terms of Reference (PDF 70KB)
For further information on any aspect of the Executive Committee of Council, contact:
Finance and Infrastructure Development Committee
Finance and Infrastructure Development Committee Terms of Reference (PDF 83KB)
For further information on any aspect of the Finance and Infrastructure Development Committee, including scheduling or submission of papers, contact:
Nominations, Honorary Awards and Legislative (NHAL) Committee
Nominations Honorary Awards and Legislation Committee Terms of Reference (PDF 73KB)
For further information on any aspect of the Nominations, Honorary Awards and Legislative (NHAL) Committee, including scheduling or submission of papers, contact:
Remuneration Committee of Council
Remuneration Committee of Council Terms of Reference (PDF 71KB)
For further information on any aspect of the Remuneration Committee of Council, including scheduling or submission of papers, contact:
Tender Committee
Tender Committee Terms of Reference (PDF 77KB)
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After great 2018 seasons, Julian Love & Miles Boykin declare for the NFL Draft
Posted 1:33 AM, January 9, 2019, by WGN Web Desk, Updated at 01:39AM, January 9, 2019
SOUTH BEND – When they took the field in 2018, their efforts helped produce some of the best football at Notre Dame over the past 30 years.
Tinley Park native Miles Boykin and Westchester native Julian Love, one on offense, one on defense, helped the Irish to just their second undefeated regular season since their 1988 National Championship.
Their efforts were good enough to make them two of the best at their position, and because of that, each Chicago-area native will be playing pro football next season.
Love thee ☘️ pic.twitter.com/uZq2c0w1lo
— Julian Love (@julianlove27) January 4, 2019
“I want to say that this season was such a fun ride. The relationships gained have made me so happy and I’m grateful to have been a part of it all,” said Love in his Twitter statement announcing his intention to enter the NFL Draft on January 4th.
☘️☘️☘️ pic.twitter.com/wE4gu61hlI
— Miles Boykin (@MBoykin814) January 6, 2019
“Notre Dame will always hold a special place in my heart because of the memories, both good and bad, that I’ve experienced. I’m forever changed for the better,” said Boykin, when he made his intention to declare for the draft on January 6th.
Love’s decision wasn’t a surprise considering how much his draft stock rose during a standout. The former Nazareth High School standout was an Associated Press First Team All-American selection as he broke up 17 passes, which added to his Notre Dame record of 44 on the season.
He also had three fumble recoveries and an interception in helping Notre Dame to a 12-0 record.
Boykin, who starred in high school at Providence Catholic, led the Irish with 54 catches for 803 yards and eight touchdowns in his redshirt junior season. Starting with the Stanford game in late September, the receiver caught a touchdown pass in six consecutive games as he became the favorite target of starting quarterback Ian Book.
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Posts Tagged ‘Ik Ben Mega Mindy’
Charley says ARTIST! Louis Talpe
Nicole Scherzinger may reign supreme on the American dancefloor, but here in Flanders it’s actor Louis Talpe who got to take the Dancing With The Stars trophy home.
We first met Louis in 2006 as police officer Toby on tv series Mega Mindy. The show is a bit like a reverse gender Superman. Police officer Mieke turns into superhero Mega Mindy and Toby doesn’t realise that the hero he’s falling for is actually his colleague in disguise. The series proved to be a big hit with the kids and soon there were movies, stage shows, merchandise and albums sung by lead actress Free Souffriau.
With Louis’ star on the rise, he managed to secure a role in restaurant drama ‘Goesting’ and a place as one of the finalists on Dancing With The Stars 2010.
Now what I wanted to tell you about today is that a year before his freestyle would win him the dancing show, Louis had already competed in another celebrity reality show. With Free Souffriau being Soapstar Superstar’s 2008 winner and officer Toby having already featured on one Mega Mindy song, Louis was asked to show off his singing skills.
Louis turned out not to be the greatest singer, but he managed to stay in the competition for three weeks. We got to hear him sing ‘Jessie‘, ‘Save Tonight‘, ‘New York, New York‘, ‘Everybody Needs Somebody To Love‘ and ‘She Moves In Her Own Way‘, but it’s his performance of Liquido’s ‘Narcotic‘ that I’m going to put up in celebration of his Dancing With The Stars victory!
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Play Chess With Energy
On May 7, 2018 May 5, 2018 By Xiao ChengIn Free Game Analysis, Games and Puzzles, Other
Have you had afternoons when you feel like napping for the rest of the work day in the office after lunch?
It’s not a pleasant feel when there are 10 more important tasks to take care of.
Similarly in chess, we want to bring our optimized energy into each game to play the best chess and also provide entertainment value to the spectators.
Which means nutrition is an important aspect, and many tournament surroundings does not have the most energy-boosting food options. But that’s for another article.
Back to chess. I played in the early April’s Titled Tuesday and had a sub-par overall result.
While comparing the games, I can see where I played with energy, and where my pieces were being hit left and right due to lack of energy.
Hope you’ll enjoy the games below and remember to bring more energy into you games!
No Energy
https://www.chess.com/analysis-board-editor?diagram_id=3986616
Energized
BlitzchessEnergytacticsTitled Tuesday
Invisible Moves
Missed Moments: Chicago Edition
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Chicago Baseball History
Buckner plowed through pain of ankle, vitriol over World Series gaffe
Baseball’s an inherently cruel game, the ultimate sport of failure, grinding down the toughest of men. By those standards, Bill Buckner was made of cast iron, as if he had an impenetrable barrier against the hurricane winds that could have blown him apart.
Bill Buckner (in left) photo joins Fergie Jenkins at his autograph table at Sloan Park in Mesa, Ariz. on March 6 of this season. Buckner (right) was one of the most telegenic and productive Cubs of his era despite a gimpy left ankle.
One of the most popular and enduring Cubs of the last quarter of the 20th century, Buckner could have been crippled by a bad, surgically-repaired left ankle that required extensive treatment before and after games. Yet after missing chunks of the season in his first two years (1977-78) with the Cubs, Buckner rarely missed games, winning the 1980 NL batting title, until he was traded to the Boston Red Sox two months into the fateful 1984 season.
Then, after re-establishing himself at Fenway Park, Buckner was pilloried like few others in baseball history for allowing a potential game-ending Mookie Wilson grounder to go through his legs and allow the New York Mets to pull out Game 6 of the World Series. Raised from the dead , the Mets went on to snare Game 7 and extend Boston’s baseball neurosis another 18 years.
Amazingly, Leon Durham – the man who replaced Buckner at first for the Cubs – let a similar ball through the wicket in the deciding Game 5 of the 1984 NLCS against the Padres in San Diego. But Bull never got the guff from title-starved Cubs fans going forward. Buckner vitriol went to an unprecedented level. The man bent. He was human. But true to his form, he did not break.
Memories of Buckner’s steadfastness flowed on Memorial Day when his death at 69 from Lewy Body Dementia was announced. The debilitating disease that slowed body and mind still did not stop Billy Buck from enjoying the baseball life. As recently as spring training, he joined Hall of Famer Fergie Jenkins, his Cubs teammate in 1982-83, and other ex-Cubs in greeting fans at Sloan Park in Mesa, Ariz.
“He was moving around very slowly,” Jenkins said. “His hands shook from time to time. But he took photos and signed autographs. Bill still wanted to be a part of the baseball family and scene. Pete LaCock went and picked him up every day.” (more…)
May 27, 2019 / George Castle - CBM Historian / Bill Buckner, Chicago Baseball History Feature, Chicago Baseball History News, Chicago Cubs, Dallas Green, Dave Kingman, Fergie Jenkins, Jack Brickhouse, Larry Biittner, Leon Durham, Rick Monday, Tony Garofalo, Wrigley Field
Pat Anderson, niece who crusaded to lift ‘Black Sox’ ban on Buck Weaver, dies
By Maureen O’Donnell
Originally posted in the Chicago Sun-Times on April 16, 2019
Pat Anderson, who crusaded unsuccessfully to get her “Uncle Buck” Weaver of the Chicago White Sox reinstated by Major League Baseball, has died almost a century after the “Black Sox” bribery scandal tarnished his legacy.
“She was the last person living who lived with him, knew him well,” said David J. Fletcher, who heads the petition drive www.clearbuck.com, which he launched with Mrs. Anderson and her cousin Marjorie Follett, who died in 2003.
“He was a surrogate father to her,” her daughter Debbie Ebert said of Weaver.
Mrs. Anderson, 92, died Sunday at Tablerock HealthCare Center in Kimberling City, Missouri, according to her family. She had renal failure, Fletcher said.
Mrs. Anderson pushed for years to clear her uncle’s name. She, Fletcher and baseball historians have argued his lifetime ban was too harsh.
Read the full obituary at Chicago.SunTimes.com…
“He didn’t take any money. He was not in on the fix. He played flawlessly through the series,” Ebert said. “But he went to the meeting and heard what the plan was and said he wanted no part of it, and he left.”
“He was very truthful,” Mrs. Anderson said in 2013 when she appeared on a Society for American Baseball Research panel in Philadelphia. “I know people say, ‘Oh, well, everybody lies sometimes.’ Baseball was Buck’s life. He could not lie about that.”
Many agreed with Mrs. Anderson’s crusade, which her daughter said the family will continue. (more…)
April 16, 2019 / David Fletcher / Chicago Baseball History Feature, Chicago Baseball History News
Baseball Under Glass
In fact, the Black Sox helped create even more mythology on even bigger stages. Babe Ruth’s “called shot” on Oct. 1, 1932 in Game 3 of the World Series was the outgrowth of Landis’ mid-summer ’32 investigation into Cubs manager Rogers Hornsby’s borrowing money from his player to cover racetrack debts. (more…)
June 15, 2019 / George Castle - CBM Historian / #BlackSox 100, 1919 World Series, Baseball Under Glass Blog, Black Sox, Buck Weaver, Chicago Cubs, Chicago White Sox, Eight Men Out, Fields of Dreams, Joe Jackson, Judge Landis, Pete Rose, Ray Schalk
Andre Dawson the water-safety advocate could make another splash with Cubs kids
Some kind of middle ground in apparel must exist between Andre Dawson‘s funeral suit for his family business and the T-shirt and trunks for the youth swimming program that bears his Hall of Fame name in west suburban Lombard.
Like a Cubs uniform?
Andre Dawson is starting his first year as a Cubs ambassador.
In an under-publicized manner, Dawson has indeed worn the Cubs uniform officially for the first time in 26 years in spring training, and hopes to do so again sometime this season for Cubs minor leaguers. Add in more brightly-colored business casual wear for meeting fans and sponsors in other duties as a new team ambassador, and you have the perfect balance in the life of one of the most respected Cubs in history.
“Let’s say I’m all over the place,” Dawson, tracked down in Chicago the other day, said of his 2018 schedule. His base is hometown Miami, but much of his heart is in the city that he claims vaulted him into Cooperstown via six memorable Cubs seasons from 1987 to 1992. Mention that he’d spend even more time in Chicago if the temperature did not drop below 50 and he’d not have to wear anything heavier than a windbreaker, and Dawson breaks into a knowing laugh.
He was cast aside in the off-season, along with fellow Hall of Famer Tony Perez, as a Miami Marlins special assistant by budget-slashing Fish boss Derek Jeter. Regrets are few because Dawson can now work for the Cubs — a longtime goal — while still tending to the funeral home he operates with wife Vanessa and two uncles, earning him national profiles such as respected baseball scribe Bob Nightengale in USA Today:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2018/05/08/andre-dawson-hall-famer-funeral-home-florida-retirement/590358002/
June 2, 2018 / George Castle - CBM Historian / Andre Dawson, Baseball Under Glass Blog, Billy Williams, Chicago Baseball History, Chicago Cubs, Fergie Jenkins, Jimmy Piersall
A multi-media celebration of
Chicago’s own Double Duty Radcliffe
Double Duty Ted Radcliffe was Chicago’s own Negro League superstar. Those who knew him and his work insist Duty would have been a star big-leaguer behind the plate and a very competent starting pitcher had the color line not been firmly entrenched in the prime of his career.
In connection with the DD Classic and as a permanent way to honor Duty, the Chicago Baseball Museum is presenting this special tribute to the great man and also assisted with the Double Duty exhibit at the DuSable Museum. On our 'Double Duty' microsite, we recount his long career with his own words, photos that show the ballplayer, the colorful personality and as a special treat, Duty’s own taped recollections from WGN-TV’s 1992 "Chicago American Giants" special.
Visit the 'Double Duty' microsite >>
Visit White Sox’ Double Duty Classic >>
Jack Brickhouse: Our man
for all sports seasons
Jack Brickhouse enjoyed a life of firsts. He was the first voice heard on WGN-TV when it signed on 1948. He was the first Chicago voice heard on a trans-Atlantic satellite broadcast in 1962. He called eight no-hitters, six Gale Sayers touchdowns in one game and the better part of 45 runs scored in a 1979 Cubs-Phillies contest.
The Chicago Baseball Museum pays tribute to Brickhouse in this special Jack Brickhouse microsite at a time the Cubs are honoring him with a special bobblehead day, as part of their Wrigley Field 100th anniversary celebration. The website recalls different facets of Brickhouse’s life, including stories, photos from the collection of Pat Brickhouse, Jack’s wife, and a wide variety of video and audio highlights from his career.
Visit the Jack Brickhouse microsite >>
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On September 30, 2018 September 28, 2018 By DanLisMusicIn Listen to this, Opinion, ReviewsLeave a comment
"The Sound of Something Else" by Jakals is a fluid, mixing ground of chromatic mediant relationships, time signatures, and beat patterns, resulting in a psychedelic, dazing feel.
Joel Stein's "The edge of sleep" is a nocturne that brings down the listener's energy like a lullaby, but leads us to peace, not drowsiness.
Des Reid's work "Prelude" is a kaleidoscopic, picturesque view of a starry night portrayed through a classic-rock-like chord progression, a deep indebtedness to jazz, and a developed sense of musical spaciousness.
SHIELDS – “I Already Know”
On September 29, 2018 September 28, 2018 By DanLisMusicIn Listen to this, Opinion, Reviews1 Comment
SHIELDS's tune "I Already Know" is a catchy, rhythm-heavy tune that doesn't go completely into the mainstream, instead refreshingly vying for control over the edges of what are indie and alternative musics.
Jon Reynolds & The Aches – “Tomorrow’s News”
"Tomorrow's News" by Jon Reynolds & The Aches is beautifully harmonized, tastefully textured, and not overdone on the country flavor.
“The Days Go By” – Nanaki
Nanaki's work "The Days Go By" is an atmospheric, crystallized mobile hanging in the sky; heavy and light, dark and shining, motionless and blurringly fast.
Truth Teller – “Knife”
Truth Teller's song "Knife" is a thrilling, energizing tune that is texturally clear while not being simple, and dark while not being a mere bout of screaming.
“Nicotine” – Laramie
"Nicotine" by Laramie is a lyrical, singer-songwriter-feeling indie tune blending modern alternative music with a feeling of jazz at some points.
“Predators” – We Are The Catalyst
We Are The Catalyst's song "Predators" takes the music of Lacuna Coil and Evanescence and builds on it, pushing it to new heights.
“Monster Inside” – Art of Khaos
Another great tune from Art of Khaos is their shredding tornado "Monster Inside".
How to Be Creative with a Cliché Chord Progression
On September 25, 2018 September 23, 2018 By DanLisMusicIn Opinion, Technology, Tools for ComposersLeave a comment
Guest Post - "How to Be Creative with a Cliché Chord Progression"
Art of Khaos – “Overcome”
If you are looking for a metal tune that is modern but not overly dissonant, get the song "Overcome" by Art of Khaos on your playlist.
“Skeme Goes All City” – Àbáse
Celebrating self-expression in Hip Hop culture, "Skeme Goes All City" takes us to the roots of modern American music while bringing us a to-date account of the state of creativity. Enjoy.
“Lost in the space” – Manuel Zito
"Lost in the space" by Manuel Zito is a simple, but charming work for piano that features an ostinato that is (by nature) repetitive, but not in the boring way by any means.
“I Don’t Mind” – Julian Frampton Band
For a great blend of classic rock, alternative, and hard rock, take "I Don't Mind" by the Julian Frampton Band for spin.
Music Within – “Weightless”
Music Within's tune "Weightless" is a gentle, subtle tune that lulls the listener into a state of relaxation and stillness.
“The Long Twilight Struggle” – The Transversals
"The Long Twilight Struggle" by The Transversals is a powerful rock/electronic track that features striking quotes from JFK in the form of found sound.
“Anthem” – O Mer
"Anthem" by O Mer blends soul, electronica, and Middle-Eastern music to create a beautiful, personal, and politically charged memo to us all: don't put people, or music, in boxes.
“This Time Around” – Colour Picture Book
For a retro, bluesy, and soulful tune, check out "This Time Around" by Colour Picture Book.
“2pm For Breakfast” – TIMI TEMPLE
TIMI TEMPLE's flippant tune "2pm For Breakfast" is a delightful song about waking up in the afternoon and not giving a f*** about it.
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Bucket List Steaks: 15 Steakhouses You Need to Visit at Least Once
A great steak is fairly simple. You get a really good cut, season it properly, cook it just right, and, ta-da!, you’ve got yourself a great steak. Knowing that, it’s strange that there aren’t more great steakhouses. Next time you’re craving a cut, forget the hunting and just try one of these. Here are the 15 best steakhouses you need to visit at least once.
Pappas Bros. Steakhouse
If you find yourself sauntering through the Lone Star State, a steak pretty much needs to be on the menu. When in Rome, right? Make sure to do it right, however, and that means saddling up at Pappas Bros. Steakhouse. They dry-age their steaks in-house; season them with kosher salt, black pepper, and butter; and serve them alongside classic veggie sides. It’s pricey and swanky—as many great steakhouses are—but the marbled goodness you’ll sink your teeth into is worth it. Link
Bern’s Steak House
Nothing goes better with a great steak than a big red wine, and few places pair the two together like Bern’s. Opened in 1956, Bern’s has become known not only for their steaks—which are cut to order—but for their massive wine collection. Select a wine from one of the largest collections in the world, order up a hand-cut steak to your liking, and prepare to feast like a king. It’s pricey, posh, and devoid of t-shirts and jeans, which, if we’re being honest, is how we like our steakhouses. Link
Gaucho Parrilla Argentina
If you’re ready for some Argentinian flair, and the exact opposite atmosphere of Bern’s, consider making a trip out to Pittsburgh to visit Gaucho Parrilla Argentina. The simple wood-fired meats are tremendous on their own, but the restaurant really stands out thanks to its collection of sauces. The chimichurri is other-worldly. Hell, Yelp agrees, as they named the Pittsburgh joint one of their Top 100 Places to Eat in the U.S. for 2015. Link
Peter Luger Steak House
There isn’t a temple of meat as revered as Peter Luger Steak House. The New York institution was established in the 1880s—yes, the 1800s!—and has become, perhaps, the most famous steakhouse in the world. Inside you’ll find simple wooden decor and plenty of old school charm. The curated selection of steaks keeps you from overanalyzing, and each comes out perfectly cooked. While steak sauce may seem blasphemous, we must point out that Peter Luger’s is really worth trying, with its spicy, horseradish-y tang. Link
Jess & Jim’s Steakhouse
Martin City, MO
One of the most legendary steakhouses serves one of the most legendary steaks. Jess & Jim’s, which is located in Martin City, Missouri, has been plating sizzling steaks since 1938, and when you stop by, the Playboy Strip is what you want to devour. The 25 oz. strip steak gets its name from the iconic centerfolded mag, which honored Jess & Jim’s as the best steakhouse back in 1972. All the hand-cut steaks are served unseasoned (you can request house seasoning) and accompanied by garlic toast, salad, and a side. Link
House of Prime Rib
Prime rib might not be the cut you order at most steakhouses, but not getting it at House of Prime Rib is basically a sin. Relax in one of their large, throwback booths, order up your meat, and drool as it’s carved table-side. They pride themselves on selecting the top 2% of beef on the market and promise you it will be the most tender, juicy, and flavorful beef out there. To go with your old-school hunk of meat, make sure to get a salad—yes, a salad—because it’s also on another level. Don’t eat beef? Well, they do have one fish option. Link
Barclay Prime
When an Eagles fan wants some meat that isn’t sandwiched between bread and soaked in Cheez Whiz, he’d be wise to stop by Barclay Prime—as long as he ditches the old McNabb jersey first. Stephen Starr has stellar restaurants dotted all over the City of Brotherly Love, and Barclay Prime, his steakhouse in Rittenhouse Square, is one of the finest. Situated in the Barclay building, which was constructed in 1929 as a luxury hotel, the restaurant excels at top-notch steaks and service. You pick out your weapon of choice (the steak knife you want) and can then go to town on that dry-aged ribeye. Link
Bavette’s Bar & Boeuf
You don’t want bright lights, huge windows, and more color than a box of Crayolas when you’re inside a chophouse. What you want is exactly what you’ll find at Bavette’s—rich mahogany, the lights dimmed, and a seriously perfect slab of boeuf. Pair that Wet Aged Bone In Ribeye with a classic cocktail and some pommes frites with garlic aioli. Link
2Johns
Bossier City. LA
Fine dining may be a trend on its last legs, but it still seems to make sense in the steak world. That’s exactly what you’ll find at 2Johns. From the grand piano to the white table cloths, the Louisiana steak and seafood spot is old world elegant. We recommend going classic French and ordering yourself the Steak Au Poivre, but we couldn’t fault you for choosing the Filet Oscar or the 24 oz. Cowboy Cut Ribeye. Link
Golden Steer
After you crush the blackjack table, head over to the Golden Steer, Sin City’s oldest steakhouse, to dine like Elvis and Sinatra. The legendary steakhouse has been serving up meats to the who’s who of the world since 1958. Today, you can still relax in one of their swanky booths just like Ali, Marilyn Monroe, and others did in the past. Known for their Prime Beef and Prime Rib, the Golden Steer is a throwback steakhouse worthy of spending your winnings at. Link
The Pine Club
The Pine Club feels like a no-frills kind of spot, as many restaurants that date back to the ’40s do. But while the scenery—squeaky booths, paper placemats, a leaf of lettuce resting next on the plate next to your meal—might not command your attention, their steaks sure do. Hit with a dose of butter before arriving at your table, their Bone In Rib Eye, which was profiled by Food Network earlier this year, is packed with more flavor than your taste buds could imagine. They don’t take reservations, so if you want that steak, you may have to wait. You should wait. Link
Photo Credit: The Food Network
New York has an unfair amount of legendary steakhouses. There’s the aforementioned Peter Luger Steak House, and then there’s Keens Steakhouse, which boasts an equally impressive past. First opened in 1885, the legendary chop shop stakes claim to one of the largest collection of smoking pipes in the world (more than 50,000), which you’ll see on the ceiling. The tradition of checking one’s pipe when entering an inn dates back to the 1600s, and Keens borrowed the idea in the early 20th century. It’s one of many things that feel like they are from a time gone by—old-timey portraits and newspaper clippings also line the wood walls. The mutton chops are the most well-known dish, but you really can’t go wrong with any of the steaks, which are all picked by hand and dry-aged at the restaurant. Link
Manny’s Steakhouse
Scoring a 28 for food on Zagat is no easy task—hell, Keens only scored a 26 last go-round—so that’s enough to tell you that Manny’s Steakhouse is worthy of your attention. The Minneapolis meat mecca boasts standout items like an 85-day aged bone-in ribeye, a bludgeon of beef, and a double porterhouse, all of which will send you into a glorious food coma. Just try to save some space for the Maker’s Mark Whiskey Bread Pudding. Link
Red, the Steakhouse
With locations in Florida and Ohio, two states get to experience the insanity that is Red, the Steakhouse. The Miami Beach outpost is our pick of the bunch, but you can’t go wrong stopping at any of the restaurants. Serving both Certified Angus Beef that’s been wet aged no less than 45 days and Japanese Kobe, the steakhouse has a fine steak for even those with the highest standards. Each is seasoned with kosher salt, peppercorns, and an “aglio brushing,” and can be accompanied by an array of classic sauces. Link
Halls Chophouse
The Hall family want to introduce you to some southern hospitality—and ridiculously good steak. A staple of South Carolina (and some national) “Best Of” lists, Halls Chophouse is a swanky spot without the stereotypical stuffy vibe. As Zagat reviews say, you’ll be “pampered.” Whether you’re dining at Halls Chophouse on a Friday night or stopping by for their Sunday Gospel Brunch, where you can pair your steak with some shrimp and grits or waffles, you’re in for one fine cut of beef. The restaurant’s 28-day aged USDA prime steaks are flown in from the legendary Allen Brothers in Chicago. Each is juicy, tender, and cooked perfectly. You’ll want to pair your bone-in ribeye with some lobster mac n’ cheese. Link
Author: Mike Newman
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Rainmaker, Stormbreaker
by JT Gill
JT Gill's work has appeared in Perihelion Science Fiction, Metaphorosis Magazine, and The Molotov Cocktail, where he won the 2015 Flash Fool contest. This is his 3rd appearance in DSF. You can follow him on twitter @jt3_gill.
"Catherine," Father says, leaning against the machine. "Do you remember when we could turn off the rain?"
I step around beside him, careful not to tread on the headstone at my feet. The leaves of the beech tree are all a-patter overhead, the sky a swirling mass of dark grey clouds.
"Yes," I say, staring across the fields at the Rainmaker, its antennae--bent slightly out of shape--towering above the cornstalks in the distance.
Every day, Father and I work together under the beech tree, next to Mother's grave, to build the Stormbreaker--the machine that will end the storm.
"I miss her," he says.
"We should get back to work," I say, eyeing the heavens.
I remember the day Father finished the Rainmaker.
Mother and I stood close by, staring at the contraption with the bulbed antennae. Father ripped the cord and the exhaust vents coughed blue smoke. I started. Mother put a hand on my shoulder.
"Shouldn't take long," Father said, shouting over the ensuing hum as he adjusted the dials.
It wasn't two hours before the rain began to fall, as if Elijah had asked it of God Himself.
My parents kissed each other in the downpour, and the corn whispered its appreciation.
Eventually, we destroyed the Rainmaker. After what happened with Mother. Ripped the cords from their plugs, burned the generator, and bent that wicked antennae ourselves.
But the storm didn't falter.
Father talked of chain reactions and atmospheric pressure and momentum.
"It's self-sustaining," he said. "The only way to stop it now is with a lot of force. Something bigger."
That was when we began to build the Stormbreaker.
Like Noah, Father said, building the ark.
The celebration was short-lived.
Father buried his head in his hands. Bills were stacked high on the kitchen table.
"It's all right," Mother said, sitting beside him. "We have the Rainmaker now."
"It's not enough," said Father. "The crops still won't be done in time."
The following morning, when I got up to do my chores, our truck was gone. Father with it.
"He had to run some errands," Mother said, but the tremor in her voice told me otherwise.
She had me sit out on the back porch, and watch as she waded through the corn to the Rainmaker.
"Let's turn on the rain," she said. "It'll be a surprise for when he gets back."
I know now that my Mother was clueless, trying to work that machine. But I was only a little girl then, and her childlike faith was far more powerful than my Father's cowardice.
Which made what happened so much worse.
The storm is nearly a hurricane now. A monstrous halo, circling us. The rain never stops.
Our neighbors stop by our house as they trickle away, their trucks sagging beneath the weight of their belongings. None of them suspect we are the cause.
Father stands out on the porch, listening to each one.
"It's only supposed to get worse," they say.
"Why don't you come with us?"
But Father only shakes his head, and watches their cars fade into the night.
"How can I leave again?" Father says later, as we work on the Stormbreaker. "I hear your Mother's voice in the rain, and I'm faced with what I did."
I followed the doctors as they wheeled Mother through the hospital.
So much of her was wrapped in gauze. The smell of burnt flesh was nauseating.
It wasn't until after the surgery that Father arrived, his face as pale as death.
I was angry, confused. He should have been there. If he hadn't left us....
But Mother was dying.
Around midnight, she closed her eyes for the last time.
"It's ok," she said to my Father. "I forgive you."
Father cried for so long after that. We both did.
It was even longer before I spoke to him again. Though it didn't really matter. He spent days under the beech tree, beside her grave, the clouds circling him like buzzards.
Many times I thought about leaving, but somehow it just didn't seem right.
When he finally came back inside, I hardly recognized him, he was so thin.
"Catherine," he said. "I can't ask for your forgiveness, but I would like to ask for your help."
I didn't want to say yes, but if Mother could forgive him, why couldn't I?
My anger dissipated like a cloud, scattered with the wind.
I agreed.
Father has never told me exactly what the Stormbreaker is. Only that it will make things right again.
This is good, because the storm is upon us now. The beech tree groans in the wind, branches whining and popping. The corn thrashes all around us like windblown grass.
Overhead, the clouds are twisting together, swirling in a massive ring.
"Are you ready?" Father shouts.
He rips the cord. A red countdown appears on the machine. Five minutes.
And suddenly I realize: this machine will not keep us safe, because it is not a machine at all. It is a bomb.
I look at him, terrified, confused, and he sees
"The blast will carry enough force to disrupt the storm's current," he shouts, and holds up the keys to the truck. "Go, Catherine. You can make it."
"Come with me!" I say.
But he only shakes his head, clinging to the bomb. "This is what I deserve."
An enormous crack splits the air above us and a limb from the beech tree comes crashing down. I duck, but the branch knocks Father to the ground, unconscious.
I drag him inside the truck, and then I drive as fast as I can, until the explosion billows up into the sky in the rearview, and the storm is cut in two.
"You should have left me," Father sobs. "How am I supposed to live?"
"Find something bigger," I say, watching the clouds dissipate behind us.
It all looks so small from here.
This story was first published on Friday, March 17th, 2017
The idea for this story came to me while I was at work. It was a stormy day, and I was watching the rain on the windows and thinking about how useful weather control could be... especially to farmers. Voila. This story is the result of that thought.
- JT Gill
We hope you're enjoying Rainmaker, Stormbreaker by JT Gill.
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No motivation
#1 Ashurachan on 4 years ago
Hi guys long time no see ^^
In the past year, I've been shooting less ans less.
I did my last photoshoot at the end of April, and last time I pointed my camera at cosplayers was in July, during Japan Expo. During that event, I spent much more time at the concert hall than I did shooting, and the few shots I took were so lame I didn't take the time to process them.
I haven't touched my camera in months, last time I did was during a seminar at work (especially taking pictures of my drunk collegues at the party) and I didn't take the time to process my pics either.
I have more or less lost interest in cosplay - I still enjoy a nice costume, but the unending drama has made me cut ties with the community, and right now the only cosplayers I have contact with are people I enjoy on a personnal level. That's not a problem though. I feel better for it, in the end trying to fit in only hurt my feelings and sense of self-worth.
However, with my interest in cosplay, my interest in photography seems to have gone away as well, and this is much more of a problem since I have those pending photos some people have been waiting for. How can I motivate myself to shoot again when all I've ever enjoyed shooting was costumes ? I seriously don't know. I have barely used my new camera, since I can't even find enough motivation to work on video projects (I changed my camera mostly because I had these, and since then I haven't done anything about it but procrastinating).
So here's a question for all of you, how do you deal with your own lack of motivation ? What could I do to move back into the mood ? There are so many photographers that do a better job than I've ever done, I feel selfish for asking cosplayers to pose for me (even at cons, so let's not talk about shoots outside).
#2 nathancarter on 4 years ago
Sometimes you just have to force it.
I was like that for the last half of 2014. Not due to "cosplay drama," which is something I actively avoid, but due to general life stresses and a couple of specific events that really sapped my energy.
For 2015 I've made a resolution to do at least one big photo project every two months, or every month if I can manage it. And, some of those projects are intentionally forcing myself to step outside my usual comfort-zone and my usual skill set. My January shoot (The Last of Us shoot) is done and wrapped up and delivered; my February project is scheduled and about to happen, I just need to do some test shots (which I am doing tonight) and pick up a couple set pieces (next week); my March project is well past the "idea" stage and I have a cast of willing subjects, now I just need to hammer out details.
It's easier and more comfortable to just sit on the couch and play xbox, but then I'll look back and be mad that I was so lazy and complacent.
Comparing yourself to other photographers is only self-destructive. It doesn't accomplish anything positive. Admire them, learn from them, but don't stop work because you're "not as good." Y'know what, there will always be someone better than you, with better equipment than you, and a bigger network of more beautiful friends. This is true no matter who you are and what you do, but especially true in any form of art.
Stop beating yourself up and just get out there and do it. Force it to happen, even if it's not fun at the time. You'll grow, and get better, and your work will show it, and before you know it you'll be able to look back and see something that you're proud of.
Pithy sayings and motivational words rarely work for me, but I found both of these to be helpful:
[url]http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2015/01/21/arting-hard-like-an-artful-motherfucker-25-ways-to-be-a-bad-ass-maker-who-makes-bad-ass-stuff/[/url] (some nsfw text language)
[url]https://fstoppers.com/business/stop-holding-out-and-share-those-images-57688[/url]
Personal note: You don't have to participate in "the drama" to be involved in cosplay. Everyone has opinions, some people are jerks, you don't have to put any weight in the opinions of jerks.
#3 fam-cosplayphotographer on 4 years ago
We grow as human beings and there are times when photography will be in the back of your mind, life keeps us busy. However, kind of like what nathan said, when you have the free time to sit and do something like play video games, you could be doing something more worthwhile like shooting. To me cosplay is a hobby that I enjoy, if youre not enjoying it, find something you enjoy shooting, and if there's nothing its possible its just a generalized depression not photography related and thats completely understandable too. We all go through funks. There are times I dont want to do a paid portrait shoot, but as soon as I get myself there and start shooting I find the joy again, I challenge myself to do better each time, not to make the same mistakes and slowly evolve it to a personal challenge. I get that it is personally deflating to see amazing work from others, we all have to deal with that too but hard work trumps talent in the end...it always does. Keep working, force yourself out there just like Nathan said and get outside your comfort zone so you can find new things you love, and mark off the things you now know you dont.
#4 Access on 4 years ago
I just pace myself, if I'm falling behind on processing or don't have enough time, I stop going to as many events or taking as many photos in general. And if there is a backlog, trying to do at least a little bit each day (even if I'm busy) helps.
I honestly do my best to not compare myself to other photographers. There's a preponderance of good photographers out there today, so I do try to focus on what I really care about rather than just trying to do everything.
[QUOTE=nathancarter;4949900]Personal note: You don't have to participate in "the drama" to be involved in cosplay. Everyone has opinions, some people are jerks, you don't have to put any weight in the opinions of jerks.[/QUOTE]
It's not about participating in the drama, it's just the fact that drama is so prevalent that you can't be part of the community and not get more or less involved in it (the French community is small and pretty much centered around the Paris area, where I live). I basically had to cut myself from people I once was friends with, that I saw grow as cosplayers or photographers but are now 'important' and see me as not interesting anymore since they have outgrown me. The ones I'm still on good terms with are people who still see themselves as fans first, people who do costumes just for the love of characters and that I spend more time fangirling with than taking photos of.
Comparing myself to others is no use, I know, but even seeing my own photos is depressing now. With the lack of practice my ability is not just stagnating, it's decreasing. I haven't used artificial lighting for over a year, if I tried now I think it would be even worse than the last :/
Yeah, I sound self-deprecating... but that's really how it is right now, I know only shooting more could resolve that, but at the same time I have less and less opportunities, since I distanced myself from the community and can't move much because of my family.
I guess I should launch one of the video projects. See if people are interested, at least... but yeah, procrastination :/ Because when I go back home after work, my remaining energy goes to preparing some food and taking care of my kids, and then it's 9 PM and some days I even lack the energy to play videogames and just spend some time trying to catch up on my facebook feed. The only thing I have a bit of energy for is maintaining my Vocaloid blog (one song a day, it's almost been a year), because Vocaloid is the new love of my life (even if I don't write music myself), and musicians who hide behind virtual pop stars tend to be much less prone to drama than the bunch of show-offs that gravitate around cosplay, and have managed to give me back a bit of faith in the creative side of humanity.
#6 ItsTroy on 4 years ago
You could try and explore different areas of photography if you want to avoid the cosplay drama.
Take pictures of your kids. You said you live in Paris, which happens to be a very popular tourist destination. Take your camera everywhere you go and document life around Paris. Try some cityscape photography. Set up a in-home studio and try photographing anime figures or other small, interesting things. The options are limitless.
I get my motivation from following many cosplay photogs of different styles and checking out post-con photos. I recently got into cosplay videography and I get excited seeing the videos that are put out after conventions. You have to remember that a lot of the photos you see come from people who have practice. Everyone started out somewhere.
Last option would to just drop photography as a whole and sell your equipment. Photo gear usually holds onto value very well, so you could break even if you spend some time selling. Then you would have money to pursue new interests.
[QUOTE=Ashurachan;4950024]It's not about participating in the drama, it's just the fact that drama is so prevalent that you can't be part of the community and not get more or less involved in it (the French community is small and pretty much centered around the Paris area, where I live). I basically had to cut myself from people I once was friends with, that I saw grow as cosplayers or photographers but are now 'important' and see me as not interesting anymore since they have outgrown me. The ones I'm still on good terms with are people who still see themselves as fans first, people who do costumes just for the love of characters and that I spend more time fangirling with than taking photos of.[/QUOTE]
That's understandable.
For me, it helped a lot to realize that not everybody has to be my friend. Many people are simply ...acquaintances, maybe? Not quite friends. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
This especially holds true for people in the cosplay community, or other areas where our only interaction is for photography or cosplay. Sometimes your circles just don't overlap any more.
Sometimes you associate with people only because you have something to offer each other - and this doesn't have to be a bad thing. If those former acquaintances grow as cosplayers and get popular, they get the attention of more skilled photographers. Likewise, if you grow in skill as a photographer, you can expect to shoot the "popular" cosplayers - the ones who don't need the services of mediocre photographers.
But even when you get really skilled, you still take pictures of your friends with their just-passable costumes - because you're friends, and you like hanging out with them.
[QUOTE=Ashurachan;4950024]I guess I should launch one of the video projects. See if people are interested, at least... but yeah, procrastination :/ Because when I go back home after work, my remaining energy goes to preparing some food and taking care of my kids, and then it's 9 PM and some days I even lack the energy to play videogames and just spend some time trying to catch up on my facebook feed. The only thing I have a bit of energy for is maintaining my Vocaloid blog (one song a day, it's almost been a year), because Vocaloid is the new love of my life (even if I don't write music myself), and musicians who hide behind virtual pop stars tend to be much less prone to drama than the bunch of show-offs that gravitate around cosplay, and have managed to give me back a bit of faith in the creative side of humanity.[/QUOTE]
Trust me, I get that: The lack of energy, or the other interests (or demands) that are taking away from photography. Sometimes you just put it down for a while, and maybe come back to it later. Or, sometimes - if it's important to you - you force yourself to do it even though you don't WANT to do it, in order to make some sort of advancement and achievement. Staying up till 1am to process and deliver photos that you're tired of looking at, or setting up for a more elaborate shoot when it would be so, so much easier just to lay in the bed and look at tumblr.
[QUOTE=nathancarter;4950430]
I find the same, knowing when to step back; and knowing when to just show up, do what you do, and move on; that can avoid a lot of the drama that is out there.
Even good friends know and understand this, that sometimes friendship or togetherness has to be put aside for other more important things (ie. family). You're not really looking out for someone if you insist that they choose you over people or things that are more important to them.
[QUOTE=ItsTroy;4950421]You have to remember that a lot of the photos you see come from people who have practice. Everyone started out somewhere.[/QUOTE]
This is not much of a comfort for me, since I actually started long before most of them (I've been photographing cosplayers for more than ten years).
On acting like a tourist in Paris and taking photos of monuments and such : well, it's not really my thing, I like to take photos of people rather than things ^^;
I did this shoot once though :
[url]https://www.flickr.com/photos/ashurachan/sets/72157634835498995/[/url]
(just one morning to do all... quite difficult to get most of these actually, because of people, traffic and whatever didn't fit the 'old Paris' feel of the shoot).
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Governor, Justices and Child Protection Services to talk about foster parent needs
Gov. Phil Bryant, Chief Justice Bill Waller Jr., Justice Dawn Beam and Child Protection Services Director Dr. David Chandler will talk about the need for more foster parents during a Rescue 100 Vision meeting at 10 a.m. Friday, Sept. 9 at the Gartin Justice Building at 450 High Street in Jackson.
Rescue 100 is a collaborative effort among government, the faith-based community and the private sector to train more foster parents to take care of abused and neglected children. Pastors, judges and others interested in efforts to address the foster parent shortage are invited to attend.
There are 1,096 children in foster care in Attala, Hinds, Holmes, Issaquena, Leake, Madison, Rankin, Scott, Sharkey, Warren and Yazoo counties. There are currently 272 licensed resource homes in those same counties, according to Chris Alexander, spokesperson for the Mississippi Department of Child Protection Services.
The meeting on Friday will focus on the need for more foster parents and future plans to address that need. The goal of Rescue 100 is to provide 100 more licensed foster homes to meet the needs of abused and neglected children in Central Mississippi.
Justice Beam, chair of the Mississippi Commission on Children's Justice, is spearheading organization of Rescue 100 programs to train foster parents. "We have a tremendous need for loving foster homes for our children. This is an exciting effort working with the courts, local child protection staff, non-profit organizations and local churches to wrap their arms around our children and their families," she said.
Jamie Walley, director of Church Relations and Training for the adoption agency 200 Million Flowers, is expected to talk about Rescue 100's vision to recruit and train more foster parents. Walley and his wife Stephanie are licensed foster parents. Walley is student and missions pastor at Meadow Grove Baptist Church in Brandon.
Four orientations are scheduled before the training so that people considering becoming licensed foster parents can learn the requirements. Anyone interested in attending the weekend training must first attend an orientation. People may register at www.200millionflowers.org/rescue100.
Each of the one-hour orientation sessions is scheduled for 6 p.m. Dates and locations are:
• Oct. 10, Canton, Madison Chancery Courthouse, Board of Supervisors Room, 146 West Center Street;
• Oct. 11, Jackson, Hinds Chancery Courthouse, 316 South President Street;
• Oct. 12, Vicksburg, Warren Chancery Courtroom, 1009 Cherry Street;
• Oct. 13, Brandon, Rankin County Circuit Courtroom, 215 East Government Street.
The Rescue 100 program began at Michael Memorial Baptist Church in Gulfport. The first mass training was conducted there in April. A second was held in July in Hattiesburg.
"We started in south Mississippi and we are working our way through the state," Dr. Chandler said. "The previous two Rescue 100 events were very successful in bolstering the number of available foster homes both in the Pine Belt and on the Coast of Mississippi. MDCPS is excited to once again partner with our affiliates to work towards licensing even more foster parents so that we can better serve the children of Central Mississippi."
Every foster home must be licensed. Completing the licensing process used to take many months, with individual classes scheduled weekly. In an effort to address the need for more foster parents, Rescue 100 will pack into three days all the classes required for people to be licensed as foster parents. Child Protection Services or a private agency will follow up with complete home studies shortly afterwards.
Rescue 100 is a collaborative effort of the Mississippi Department of Child Protection Services; the Mississippi Commission on Children's Justice; and adoption agencies including 200 Million Flowers, Mississippi Children's Home Services and Southern Christian Services for Children and Youth. Area churches are invited to join the effort.
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Home Accessories Armbands HOLO 2.0 – The Augmented Reality Wearable Computer
Wearable Computing
HOLO 2.0 – The Augmented Reality Wearable Computer
We’ve all seen some of the amazing things that can be done with augmented realist. From creating virtual realisty to playing 3D games, there are a range of headsets and applications available, including Google Glass for mobile, and Vuzix for a computer. In early 2010 a team of engineers from Amsterdam, The Netherlands designed a wearable computer concept using virtual reality that was eco friendly, and could be worn on your wrist, as a badge, or in your pocket. While it does not seem as though the HOLO 2.0 will becoming a reality, the concept is still quite cool.
What is the HOLO 2.0
The HOLO 2.0 is quite simply a wearable computer with a projected virtual reality screen. Rather than relying on a glass over the eyes or even contacts, the HOLO was designed to simply project. The original model could be wrapped around the wrist as a chunky but elegant bracelet that doesn’t even look too much like a piece of technology. It’s functions include using a kinetically charged battery that uses movement to charge, 3G wireless internet that would allow it to connect almost anywhere, and a holographic display (as the name might suggest) that can be used to project a full sized screen into any available space. The concept was also created with a  docking space that would allow the user to work with the HOLO like a regular computer.
The proposed dimensions were 40mm (length), 20mm (width), 2.5mm (minimum thickness), and 10mm (maximum thickness), and the computer braclet was designed to be flexible so that you could wear it more easily, and put it in your pocket if necessary.
Issues?
There are a lot of issues with this concept which is perhaps why it has not become a reality. First, the HOLO 2.0 charges via kinetic power, but this is relatively difficult to pull off for something that might hardly be moved at all. Alternate power options such as a standard plug in dock would be expected on the computer as well. Another issue is that most people would like to type on something real. Currently our voice recognition technology is far from perfect meaning that there are still issues in even the most expensive of software, our laser and virtual reality keyboards are equally as lacking and while very close to perfection, are not as reliable as most people expect their computer controls to be. Other issues include that this was most likely designed as a simple concept idea, and because it never took off, was never adopted. So, likely you won’t be seeing a HOLO 2.0 by the promised 2015 originally announced on the internet. Instead, you can look to other up and coming wearable tech like Smart Glasses and Contacts which are almost the same thing.
Considering the size of the HOLO 2.0, it would have been more like a tablet then a full size computer. Size restrictions alone limit how much can be done with the technology, although computers are getting smaller and smaller. A smartphone today is more powerful than most computers fifteen years ago, so the HOLO 2.0 would likely have worked as a sufficient option for most people. Despite this, this awesome wearable tech design is just that, a design.
Holo 2.0
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A View on Broad Street, Grinnell, Iowa
Color postcard view of the west side of Broad Street between 4th and 5th Avenues in Grinnell, Iowa, about 1907. The First Congregational Church is partially visible on the right edge of the view. Postcard was made in Germany and imported by Brown & Harrington, Grinnell. Postcard published by C.E. Wheelock & Co. Drake Community Library (Grinnell, Iowa) Archives. Miscellaneous photographs. Collection #17-2, Grinnell Buildings.
Armory, Grinnell, Iowa -- 921
Postcard view of the Armory at 816 Fifth Avenue in Grinnell, Iowa. Postcard produced by C.U. Williams Photoette, Bloomington, Illinois. Drake Community Library (Grinnell, Iowa) Archives. Miscellaneous photographs. Collection #17-2, Grinnell Buildings.
Bench in Children's Room, Stewart Library
View of a bench in the Children's Room in Stewart Library, Grinnell, Iowa. The Children's Room was in the basement, and the photo shows water damage on the wall. Drake Community Library (Grinnell, Iowa) Archives. Miscellaneous photographs. Collection #17-1, Stewart Library.
Broad St. Looking North, Grinnell, Iowa
Color postcard view of Broad Street in Grinnell, Iowa, looking approximately northwest across Central Park towards Broad Street between Commercial and Fourth Avenue. Postcard is addressed to Miss Hazel McIntyre and postmarked April 29, 1910, in Grinnell, Iowa. Drake Community Library (Grinnell, Iowa) Archives. Miscellaneous photographs. Collection #17-2, Grinnell Buildings.
C.W.H. Beyer & Co.
Employees (?) of C.W.H. Beyer & Co., Real Estate Loans, in Grinnell, Iowa, circa 1920. Buildings in the photograph are identified as: 815 4th Avenue, Marvin Frank, Mutual Home Loan & Savings, Justice of Peace collections; 817 4th Avenue, C.W.H. Beyer & Co., Bankers; 819 4th Avenue, Bartling & Nickolls, Jewelers, Optometrists. Photo by Pratt, Grinnell, Iowa. Drake Community Library (Grinnell, Iowa) Archives. Miscellaneous photographs. Collection #17-2, Grinnell Buildings.
Campus View, from Park Street, Grinnell, Iowa 924
Postcard view of the Grinnell College campus from Park Street in Grinnell, Iowa. Goodnow Hall to the left; Chicago Hall in the center; Blair Hall to the right. Postcard produced by C.U. Williams Photoette, Bloomington, Illinois. Drake Community Library (Grinnell, Iowa) Archives. McNally photographs. Collection #1, Series #1-1.
Campus, Grinnell College, Grinnell, Ia.
Postcard view of Grinnell College, Grinnell, Iowa. Drake Community Library (Grinnell, Iowa) Archives. McNally photographs. Collection #1, Series #1-1.
Center School
Miniature photo of Center School, Grinnell, Iowa, pasted on a card with the words, "Old H.S. Building" and "Thanksgiving Day '06." Drake Community Library (Grinnell, Iowa) Archives. Miscellaneous photographs. Collection #17-2, Grinnell Buildings.
Center School, Grinnell, Iowa. Drake Community Library (Grinnell, Iowa) Archives. Miscellaneous photographs. Collection #17-2, Grinnell Buildings.
Chapel, Grinnell, Iowa 931
Postcard view of Herrick Chapel on the Grinnell College campus in Grinnell, Iowa. Postcard published by C.U. Williams Photoette, Bloomington, Illinois. Drake Community Library (Grinnell, Iowa) Archives. McNally photographs. Collection #1, Series #1-1.
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Full-length portrait of the cast of a Marylhurst College play on stage. They are in costume and facing front. The unconfirmed note “Marylhurst College students” is written on the negative sleeve. Marylhurst College, located in Marylhurst, Oregon, ...
Marylhurst College students performing play
Photograph showing Marylhurst College students on stage, performing a scene from a play. At center is a performer dressed in a head scarf, jacket, and skirt, kneeling next to a performer dressed as a nun. To the left is a student wearing in a suit...
Students and dates at Marylhurst College senior ball, 1945
Photograph showing a crowd of Marylhurst College students and their dates dancing at the school’s senior ball on Friday, May 18, 1945. The text “Marylhurst College May queen/dance 5/20/45 [sic]” is written on the negative sleeve. See related image...
Miss Marylhurst Muryel Zoellern at Marylhurst College senior ball, 1945
Photograph showing Muryel Zoellern after she was crowned Miss Marylhurst at the Marylhurst College senior ball on May 18, 1945. The text “Marylhurst College May Queen/Dance 5/20/45 [sic]” is written on the negative sleeve. See related image Nos. 3...
Miss Marylhurst Muryel Zoellern and attendants at Marylhurst College senior ball, 1945
Photograph showing Miss Marylhurst Muryel Zoellern with her date, her attendants, and their dates at the Marylhurst College senior ball on May 18, 1945. Zoellern is sitting in a chair on a dais; standing next to her on the dais are an unidentified...
Crowning of Muryel Zoellern at Marylhurst College senior ball, 1945
Photograph showing an unidentified student crowning Muryel Zoellern as Miss Marylhurst at the Marylhurst College senior ball on May 18, 1945. Zoellern is sitting in a chair on a dais, and an unidentified young man is standing next to her. The text...
Students and dates at Marylhurst College senior ball, 1945?
Students and dates at Marylhurst College junior prom, 1945?
1945-02-10?
Photograph showing a group of four unidentified Marylhurst College students and their dates posing in a doorway during a dance. They are in two rows, four crouching in front and four standing behind them. The unconfirmed note “Marylhurst College J...
Photograph showing a crowd of Marylhurst College students and their dates dancing at a formal. The unconfirmed note “Marylhurst College Jr prom 2/10/45” is written on the negative sleeve. See related image No. 375A0270. Marylhurst College, located...
Marylhurst College students at booth with sign for Coast Guard Women’s Reserve, 1944?
Portrait of three unidentified Marylhurst College students at a small booth decorated with streamers. On the front of the booth is a sign that reads “SPARS / Women’s Reserve / U. S. Coast Guard / Apply nearest Coast Guard Office.” The student in t...
Marylhurst College students on stage, posing with books, 1944?
Photograph showing a group of unidentified Marylhurst College students posing on a stage. Most of the young women are holding books, which appear to all be copies of the same book. The unconfirmed note “Marylhurst College / bond drive / 1/25/44” i...
Red Cross nurses’ aides taking civil defense oath at Marylhurst College, 1944
Photograph showing Portland City Commissioner Fred Peterson administering the oath of civilian defense to 12 Red Cross volunteer nurses’ aides in the Marylhurst College auditorium on May 10, 1944. The volunteers are standing in a row facing Peters...
Red Cross nurses’ aides on stage during capping ceremony at Marylhurst College, 1944
Full-length portrait of 12 unidentified young women in nurses’ aide uniforms standing in a row on the stage at the Marylhurst College auditorium on May 10, 1944. A cropped version of this photograph was published in the Oregon Journal final editio...
Red Cross nurses’ aide receiving pin and cap at Marylhurst College, 1944
Photograph showing three people participating in a capping ceremony for Red Cross volunteer nurses’ aides at Marylhurst College on May 10, 1944. The person at center, who may be Colleen Carroll, is having a cap placed on her head and a pin fastene...
Marylhurst College students on steps of administration building, 1944?
Photograph showing 15 young women standing in three rows on the steps of the Marylhurst College administration building. The unconfirmed note “Marylhurst College nurses bldgs 5/10/44” is written on the negative sleeve. Marylhurst College, located ...
Marylhurst College administration building
Photograph showing the exterior of the Marylhurst College administration building and some of the surrounding grounds. The photograph was taken from the southwest corner of the building. The unconfirmed note “Marylhurst College nurses bldgs 5/10/4...
Marylhurst Normal School building, Marylhurst, Oregon
Photograph showing the exterior of the Marylhurst Normal School building on the Marylhurst College campus and some of the surrounding grounds. The photograph was taken from the southwest corner of the building. The unconfirmed note “Marylhurst Col...
Graduates in caps and gowns standing in line outside Marylhurst College administration building
Photograph showing a group of people, all wearing mortarboards and gowns, walking in two columns toward an entrance to the Marylhurst College administration building. The text “Marylhurst College commencement 5/28/44” is written on the negative, b...
Graduates in caps and gowns, standing outside Marylhurst College administration building
Full-length portrait of a group of young women, all wearing mortarboards and gowns, standing in five rows on the steps at the entrance of the Marylhurst College administration building. The text “Marylhurst College commencement 5/28/44” is written...
Full-length portrait of a group of young women, all wearing mortarboards and gowns, standing in two columns outside the administration building on the Marylhurst College campus. The text “Marylhurst College commencement 5/28/44” is written on the ...
Marylhurst College students and conductor on stage at recital, 1943
Full-length portrait of Marylhurst College string musicians and their conductor seated on stage at a recital in December 1943. They are looking toward the front. The text “Marylhurst College recital 12/14/43” is written on the negative sleeve. See...
Full-length portrait of Marylhurst College string musicians and their conductor seated on stage at a recital in December 1943. They are looking toward the front and smiling. The text “Marylhurst College recital 12/14/43” is written on the negative...
Marylhurst College students performing at recital, 1943
Photograph showing unidentified Marylhurst College students on stage, performing during a recital in 1943. One performer is playing a piano, and the others are standing in a row behind the piano and singing. The text “Marylhurst College recital 12...
Crowning of Miss Marylhurst at Marylhurst College spring formal, 1944
Photograph showing the student chosen as Miss Marylhurst sitting on a dais as a second student places a floral crown on her head during the Marylhurst College spring formal in 1944. A young man in uniform is standing on the dais and watching. The ...
Marylhurst College student with unidentified man at spring formal, 1944
Photograph showing an unidentified young woman standing on a staircase and looking down at an unidentified man leaning on the banister during the Marylhurst College spring formal in 1944. The note “Marylhurst College May Queen 5/12/44” is written ...
Miss Marylhurst and attendants at Marylhurst College spring formal, 1944
Photograph showing the student crowned Miss Marylhurst, her attendants, and their dates standing on and around a dais at the Marylhurst College spring formal. The people in the photograph are unidentified. The note “Marylhurst College May Queen 5/...
Students at Marylhurst College tea, 1944?
Photograph showing seven young women, all holding teacups and saucers, sitting near a fireplace and talking during a Marylhurst College tea. The unconfirmed note “Marylhurst College tea 1/14/44” is written on the negative sleeve. Marylhurst Colleg...
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Neon Indian’s newest single “Annie” emerged out of nowhere back in late May. Pitchfork immediately gave it “Best New Track” status, noting it’s “very much an electro-pop song for when temperatures grow more humid, our actions less responsible and the nights longer.” PASTE called it “irresistible” and “infectious,” while SPIN notes that with this track Alan Palomo “manages to push the sound into the future.” Stereogum called the track “a ray of sunlight.”
Now, Neon Indian is hitting the road again, with a string of upcoming west coast dates where he’ll be performing “Annie” as well as other new material, including an appearance at FYF Fest in Los Angeles later this month as well as a DJ set alongside Toro Y Moi at the Sundance NEXT FEST.
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Born on 25 February 1927, Kamini Kaushal started her film career as heroine of Chetan Anand’s film Neecha Nagar (1946) which won the 1946 Palme d’Or (Golden Palm) at Cannes Film Festival. Kamini Kaushal worked with all the top leading men of her time such as Ashok Kumar, Raj Kapoor and in many films opposite Dalip Kumar including Shaheed (1948), Nadiya Ke Paar (1948), Shabnam (1949) and Arzoo (1950). Biraj Bahu (1955) won her the Filmfare Best Actress Award in 1955
In 1965 she moved to playing character roles with the film Shaheed. As a character artist she was a fixture in seven Manoj Kumar films right up to Dus Numbari in 1976. She stepped into writing children’s stories. Her stories used to be published in the children’s magazine Paraag. She also directed Doordarshan TV Serial Chand Sitare. A few years ago she acted in UTV’s romantic comedy Seial Shanno Ki Shaadi on Star TV. In 1986, she also made an animation film Meri Pari.
Eighty six years old Kamini Kaushal has acted in films continuously for the last 67 years starting with Neecha Nagar (1946), her latest film being Chennai Express (2013) in which she played role of Shahrukh Khan’s grandmother. She has acted in about 100 films till date and continues to be active.
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Painting Goethe’s Faust: 4 The seduction of Gretchen
Ary Scheffer (1795–1858), Faust and Marguerite in the Garden (The Seduction) (1846), further details not known. Wikimedia Commons.
Fuelled by a witch’s rejuvenating brew, Faust wants to seduce a young girl, Gretchen, whom he bumps into in the street. Mephistopheles tells him it’s not quite as quick and easy to set up as Faust wants, but under pressure promises to take him to the girl’s room later that day.
That evening, Gretchen (Margareta) is wondering who the man was that she bumped into in the street. As soon as she leaves her room, Faust and Mephistopheles enter it. Faust’s imagination runs riot, particularly when he sees her bed. As the girl is about to return, Mephistopheles produces a box of jewellery which he has ‘acquired’, and places it in Gretchen’s cupboard for her to discover. The two leave in haste.
Gretchen returns, and sings a song as she undresses. She goes to put her clothes in the cupboard, where she discovers the jewel box. When she opens it, she is taken aback at the beauty of the jewellery, which she tries on.
In Scene 12, Faust is walking up and down, in thought. Mephistopheles arrives and tells him that Gretchen’s mother gave the jewels to a priest, saying to her daughter that ill-gotten gains would do her no good. Faust tells Mephistopheles to get Gretchen more jewels, and to get to know the woman who lives next door to the girl.
The next scene opens with the woman next door, Martha, telling the audience how her husband had ill-treated her, then went away and hasn’t been seen again. She says that she needs his death certificate, and on that Gretchen enters to report that she has just found a second jewel box. Martha instructs her not to tell her mother, but to bring the jewellery to her when she wants to wear it in front of the mirror.
Alexander von Liezen-Mayer (1839-1898), Gretchen and Marthe (c 1868-72), engraving after, further details not known. Wikimedia Commons.
It is perhaps this moment which is shown in Alexander von Liezen-Mayer’s Gretchen and Marthe, from about 1868-72, seen here in an engraving.
Mephistopheles then turns up at the door, claiming that he is looking for Martha. He says that has sad news, that her husband is dead. Martha asks where his possessions are, but Mephistopheles assures her that he had none, before making an aside to Gretchen that, if she’s too young to marry, she should take on a lover.
Dieudonné Raphaël Bourdier (1794-1865), Gretchen and Mephisto (date not known), oil on canvas, 46 x 38 cm, Private collection. Wikimedia Commons.
Dieudonné Raphaël Bourdier’s undated painting of Gretchen and Mephisto shows a caricature of the devil talking to the two women. Behind Gretchen is the second jewel box, some of whose contents she is already wearing.
Eugène Delacroix (1798–1863), Mephistopheles Visits Gretchen (1828), lithograph, further details not known. Wikimedia Commons.
Eugène Delacroix’s lithograph from 1828 shows Mephistopheles Visits Gretchen, with Martha and the box of jewellery.
Mephistopheles gives more details of the death of Martha’s husband, and before he is allowed to leave, the widow asks him for documentary evidence. Mephistopheles arranges a meeting that evening in Martha’s garden, to provide the certificates for Martha and introduce Faust to Gretchen.
Mephistopheles returns to Faust and explains how the two of them need to forge paperwork attesting to the death of Martha’s husband. Faust protests that this is dishonest, but Mephistopheles reminds him that he has lied before. Faust angrily accepts that he has no choice.
Eugène Delacroix (1798–1863), Faust Trying to Seduce Margarete (detail) (1828), lithograph, dimensions not known, Musée National Eugène-Delacroix, Paris. Wikimedia Commons.
Delacroix’s lithograph from 1828 shows Faust Trying to Seduce Margarete.
Scene 15 opens with Faust and Gretchen walking up and down the garden, as Martha talks with Mephistopheles. Gretchen explains to Faust that she is alone much of the time, as her brother is serving away in the army, her little sister died, and she is left to run the house on her own. Mephistopheles tries to explain to Martha that he is a bachelor and has no interest in the love of women.
Ary Scheffer’s painting of Faust and Marguerite in the Garden (The Seduction) from 1846 captures this masterfully, with the dreamy Gretchen and Faust almost dancing together, as Martha tries to interest Mephistopheles in her rather than the young couple.
Hendrik Frans Schaefels (1827–1904), Scene from Goethe’s Faust (1863), oil on panel, 79 x 62.5 cm, location not known. Wikimedia Commons.
Hendrik Frans Schaefels also shows this in his Scene from Goethe’s Faust from 1863.
Mikhail A Vrubel (1856–1910), Faust and Margarita in the Garden (sketch) (1896), watercolour and pencil on paper, dimensions not known, Latvian National Museum of Art Latvijas Nacionālais Mākslas Muzejs, Riga, Latvia. Wikimedia Commons.
Mikhail A Vrubel’s remarkable watercolour sketch of Faust and Margarita in the Garden from 1896 was made in preparation for a finished painting which I have been unable to locate.
James Tissot (1836-1902), Faust and Marguerite in the Garden (1861), oil on canvas, dimensions not known, Musée d’Orsay, Paris. Wikimedia Commons.
James Tissot’s Faust and Marguerite in the Garden from 1861 is based on Gounod’s operatic retelling, and shows the couple sat talking together on a bench, still quite distant, with Gretchen looking intently at a daisy she is holding.
Gretchen pulls the petals off the daisy with the childhood words ‘he loves me, he loves me not’, and when she removes the last petal rejoices in saying “he loves me!” She and Faust clasp hands at this before she runs away from him.
Gretchen runs behind the door of a summerhouse, where she hides from Faust. He catches her, and they kiss. Martha and Mephistopheles arrive shortly afterwards and tell Faust and Gretchen that the men must leave. Their departure ends the scene.
Scene 17 is set in a cavern in the forest, where Faust addresses the ‘sublime spirit’, and thanks it for his love of Gretchen. Mephistopheles arrives, and the two trade insults for a little, with Mephistopheles questioning why Faust seeks such wild places, and he reminds Faust that young Gretchen is pining for him.
Faust grows angry at Mephistopheles’ taunting, calling him (appropriately) a snake. Faust regains his lust for the young girl.
Meanwhile, Gretchen is sat alone at her spinning wheel, singing of her yearning for Faust and his love.
Georg Friedrich Kersting (1785–1847), Gretchen Before the Mirror (1827), pen, pencil, watercolor and gouache, 24.5 x 18 cm, Museum der bildenden Künste, Leipzig, Germany. Wikimedia Commons.
Georg Friedrich Kersting’s sketch of Gretchen Before the Mirror from 1827 shows Gretchen alone with her spinning wheel.
Scene 19 returns to Martha’s garden, where Gretchen and Faust are together. She asks him to tell her of his views on religion, but Faust is evasive. She complains that, while he may respect the sacraments, he doesn’t attend Mass or Confession. Then she asks whether he believes in God, forcing Faust to be even more evasive, talking about an ‘earth spirit’.
Gretchen next expresses her hatred of Mephistopheles, forcing Faust to try to excuse him as just being a bit odd. Gretchen tells Faust that she must go. He pleads with her to allow him to spend some time with her that night, but is told that Gretchen’s mother sleeps very lightly and must not be woken. For this, Faust provides Gretchen with a potion, three drops to be given to her mother to ensure that she sleeps soundly.
Gretchen questions whether her mother will wake safely, saying that she has already done so many things for Faust that there seems little left.
Pedro Américo (1843–1905), Faust and Gretchen (1875-80), oil on canvas, 34 x 23 cm, Pinacoteca do Estado de São Paulo, São Paulo, Brazil. Wikimedia Commons.
Pedro Américo’s Faust and Gretchen from 1875-80 is again probably based more on an operatic version. The shadowy figure of Mephistopheles is eavesdropping behind the curtain at the right, and white lilies, a symbol of virginity, lie fallen on the floor.
Gretchen then leaves, and Mephistopheles promptly appears. He and Faust trade insults before Mephistopheles asks whether the couple will make love tonight. Faust asks him what business it is of his, to which Mephistopheles says that he will take a certain pleasure too.
Night falls.
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Arlington update
Arlington application update
In autumn 2018 we opened up the applications process to find smallholders to set up farms on ELC's land in Arlington, East Sussex where we have temporary planning permission to create three new residential smallholdings on the 18.5 acre site.
We publicised the opportunity far and wide with over 2000 people visiting our website to see the application and 150 application pack downloads.
Unfortunately, we received only a small number of completed applications. This led us to reflect on all aspects of the application process and as well as the suitability of our model. We also conducted research with potential applicants which has informed our next steps for finding the farmers that we know are out there.
We are fully committed to working with our future applicants to create these ecological small farms. To do this we needed to consider the best way of working with new-entrant farmers to ensure we’re reaching and supporting the people that we work to serve.
We will be launching a new open-ended application process on April 15th, so watch this space!
This will open a dialogue with people interested in any of our current or future sites. It will also help us understand each other and build relationships, rather than trying to pack everything into one short application window.
We are already in conversation with more potential applicants and we invite anybody interested in applying with us for our sites in Arlington, Gower or Sparkford — or unknown future locations — to get in touch with Oliver Bettany, our membership and engagement manager, at members@ecologicalland.coop. We are also interested to hear from potential applicants that have a plot of land in mind and need help to secure it for ecological growing.
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K’JIPUKTUK (Halifax) – Today, the Nova Scotia Government released regulations and further details for the Nova Scotia Cap and Trade program. This follows the announcement of the final system on October 23, 2018, in tandem with the Federal Government’s announcements on carbon pricing nationwide.
“We welcome the introduction of a carbon pricing system in Nova Scotia, but much more needs to be done to ensure it is effective and equitable,” says Stephen Thomas, Energy Campaign Coordinator with the Ecology Action Centre (EAC).
The Nova Scotia Government says the system will be responsible for 650,000 tonnes of provincial greenhouse gas reductions over four years – or an annual reduction of about 1%. Thomas says that reduction is not strong enough to keep global warming below 1.5°C, the amount needed to avoid catastrophic climate change according to the latest report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
“We need to get serious about reducing emissions and creating jobs in this province. We need ambition, and we need leadership,” says Thomas.
Under the new system, Industries still get the vast majority of their emissions credits for free, but some credits from electricity and fossil fuel suppliers will now be auctioned. The money raised at auction will go into a new Nova Scotia Green Fund. The province estimates the fund will raise between $25M and $30M each year for low-carbon programming. The rules for how the fund works and how it will be spent will be developed in 2019.
“We think that collecting revenue into the Green Fund is a good thing under this system, and we should work to increase the amount that polluters are paying into the system over time,” says Thomas. “It’s critical that we have broad, public consultations and input into the Green Fund. It’s an exciting prospect for supporting low- and middle-income households, emissions reductions projects and capacity around work on climate change in Nova Scotia.”
The province also released a 2030 greenhouse gas reduction “target” of between 45% and 50% below 2005 levels by 2030 (12.7 Mt to 11.6 Mt) – which has been the business-as-usual projections for Nova Scotia since before any additional emissions reductions programs like Cap and Trade.
The EAC is a partner on the 2030 Declaration, which calls for ambitious climate change targets for 2030, and support for workers and communities transitioning to the green economy. The 2030 Declaration target of 50% below 1990 levels by 2030 (9.8 Mt) is estimated to create more than 30,700 jobs in Nova Scotia.
Thomas says much work remains to ensure we reduce emissions in a way that creates jobs, supports communities and meets science-based climate change targets in Nova Scotia. “We need to work quickly to diversify our energy sources in Nova Scotia in ways that supports job-creating local industries like renewables and efficiency.”
Stephen Thomas
Energy Campaign Coordinator, Ecology Action Centre
902 441 7136 stephen@ecologyaction.ca
Full EAC Position Statement on Cap and Trade (Nov 14, 2018)
EAC’s Work, Reports and Background on Cap and Trade: https://ecologyaction.ca/cap-and-trade
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Edmonton Oilers history: Jari Kurri scores hat-trick in win over Winnipeg Jets, Oct. 19, 1984
Jari Kurri scores three times on goalie Brian Hayward in a 7-4 win over the host Winnipeg Jets.
This day in Oilers history: Oct. 19
1979: Blair MacDonald scores the winning goal at 8:22 of the second period, beating Quebec Nordiques goalie Michel Dion en route to a 6-3 victory at Northlands Coliseum. It’s the first NHL Oilers home win, in which MacDonald also records the team’s first NHL hat-trick.
1980: Dave Semenko records a hat-trick in a 4-2 win over the host New York Rangers.
1983: The Oilers score seven goals in the third period en route to a 10-7 win over the host Vancouver Canucks.
1984: Jari Kurri scores three times on goalie Brian Hayward in a 7-4 win over the host Winnipeg Jets.
Originally published Oct. 20, 1984
Oilers ground frustrated Jets
By JIM MATHESON
Journal Staff Writer
Oilers 7 Jets 4
WINNIPEG — Barry Long shuffled behind the bench like he was trying to get comfortable in a bobbing canoe.
He looked bewitched, bothered and bewildered as he tried to fathom the Oilers 16th straight National Hockey League win over the Jets Friday night.
“It’s frustrating to keep losing, but we lost to the best team in the world,” said the Jets coach. “We have to play at 110 per cent to beat them, every player for 60 minutes. But it’s difficult. When you make a mistake, boom it’s in the net. Make an error and they swallow you up.”
Edmonton Oilers forward Jari Kurri in an undated photo. File / Edmonton Journal
As usual, Wayne Gretzky and Jari Kurri were hemlock to the Jets. Gretzky, who has 77 points (39 goals) in 28 career games against the Jets, scored his seventh and eighth goals of the year (one into an empty net) and set up all three of Kurri’s 10th NHL hat- trick. Kurri has 41 points in 23 games.
Glenn Anderson and Lee Fogolin got the others on Brian Hayward, who was in goal the last time he Jets beat the Oilers (March 23, 1983). It was 7-4 that night, too, only Hayward was stingy, holding Gretzky to one measly assist.
Defencemen Tim Watters and Dave Babych, Thomas Steen and captain Dale Hawerchuk beat Andy Moog, who had his busiest night in three games (39 shots).
“They’re on a roll right now no other team has touched them except LA in the first game of the season,” shrugged Long, who finds himself already nine points back of the Oilers after barely more than one week of the six month season.
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Kurri scored all three of his goals in the first 20 minutes, two on blistering shots, one-timed bullets off setups by Gretzky and linemate Mike Krushelnyski.
“Kurri and Gretzky are probably the best two hockey players in the world,” said Long. “Tonight we concentrated too much on Gretzky and ignored Kurri. The way they play together is something else. It’s like an offensive drill. Gretzky gets everybody mesmerized and Kurri gets open. It’s the European way. The most dangerous person is the guy without the puck.”
Kurri looked like he might get half-a-dozen on Hayward, but he did all his damage in a 10 minute span in the opening period.
“They have to look at Wayne. If they don’t he’ll walk in by him self,” said Kurri, explaining how he seems to find open areas so well.”
Gretzky, who ran his consecutive point streak-on the road to 63 games, gave Kurri a rave review. “Nobody is even close to Jari, the way he one-times shots. (Buddy) Cloutier used to be good at it, but nobody is as ac curate and as hard as Jari with the shot. He’s the best and I’m the worst at it. One-timing shots (without hesitating is one thing Europeans do better than North American players Vladimir) Krutov does it really well, too.” Nobody scores like Gretzky, though. He now has 17 points in six games (five wins and a tie), after just two assists in his first two starts.
He’s been poison to the Jets, with only LA being a more friendly adversary (82 points).
“It’s funny, because they play me tighter than a lot of teams. Maybe they get a little overanx- ious though and leave players open (for feathery Gretzky passes).”
As for the hex the Oilers have on the Jets, Gretzky maybe realizes deep down inside that it has end sometimes (as Long does), but right now, it’s like the Arena time clock on the Jets backs.
“They played a lot more physical than they have before but they have a lot of heat to produce this year. They can’t finish third, or fourth. They’ve got to get past the first round of the playoffs,” said Gretzky.
“It’s just that we play them with so much confidence. It doesn’t matter what happens, we just feel we’ll win. It’s like when we were playing the Islanders and losing. We know the feeling from the other end,” he said.
With the win, the Oilers remained the NHL’s only unbeaten team going into a heavyweight battle with Calgary Sunday at the Coliseum. A year ago, the Oilers started 7-0, but they seem sharper this year. Even if Gretzky disagrees mildly that their play in the last two games against Minnesota and the Jets has been ragged “Without our goalie (Moog) being hot again tonight, we could have lost said Gretzky. Long agreed wholeheartedly, trying to digest a gut-wrenching fact that the Jets have won only eight of their last 34 games against Smythe Division teams and have to turn it around soon.
“I watched the game in Minnesota on tape and Fuhr was outstanding, too. Moog and Fuhr did a very good job for them. Their whole game plan is offensive and it leaves their end virtually defenceless.”
“We’ve got to start bearing down,” said Gretzky.
Oilers give rest to weary theory
WINNIPEG — Their number should be up but statistics don’t lie.
The Edmonton Oilers continue to confound the odds by doing superbly in back-to-back games on the long and winding National Hockey League schedule. Especially when they play a fresh opponent.
Last year, they led the NHL with an 11-2 record. On nights they should have been weary, they clobbered clubs 13-4 (New Jersey), 12-2 (Vancouver) and 12-8. (Minnesota). In 13 games on the second leg of a 48-hour work shift, they scored 101 goals.
Things haven’t changed this year. Friday’s 7-4 win over the Winnipeg Jets, followed hard on the heels of a 7-5 verdict in Minnesota Thursday, proved that.
“I don’t know why but we actually seem to play better in the second game, travel or no travel,” said Oilers goalie Andy Moog. “All the guys just seem to get warmed up in the first gamp. A lot of teams just go for a split we never think that way.”
ON THE BENCH — Oilers centre Kevin McClelland was cut for five stitches on his left ear after a high-stick … Gretzky has 29 career hat-tricks not 24, as reported earlier. Phil Esposito leads him with 32 three-goal games Jets’ winger Morris Lukowich played his first game after tearing a knee ligament running in a local park prior to training camp … The Olers sat out defenceman Jeff Beukeboom and wingers Jaroslav Pouzar and Terry Martin.
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Claude Criquielion
Criquielion in 2014
Lessines, Belgium
18 February 2015(2015-02-18) (aged 58)
Aalst, Belgium
Professional team(s)
Kas–Campagnolo
Lotto–Superclub
Managerial team(s)
Lotto–Adecco
Landbouwkrediet–Colnago
Major wins
1984 World Road Race Championship
La Flèche Wallonne (1985, 1989)
Tour of Flanders (1987)
Tour de Romandie (1986)
Clásica de San Sebastián (1983)
Representing Belgium
Men's road bicycle racing
1984 Barcelona Elite Men's Road Race
Claude Criquielion (11 January 1957 – 18 February 2015) was a Belgian professional road bicycle racer who raced between 1979 and 1990. In 1984, Criquielion became the world road race champion in Barcelona, Spain on a gruelling course. He had five top-ten finishes in the Tour de France.
Criquielion was well placed to win a medal in the 1988 world road race championship in Belgium. However, he crashed in sight of the line when another competitor, Steve Bauer of Canada, clashed with him. The third rider, Maurizio Fondriest, went on to win. Bauer was disqualified and Criquielion sued Bauer for assault, asking for $1.5 million in damages in a case that lasted more than three years before the judge ruled in Bauer's favor.
Criquielion was directeur sportif of the Lotto–Adecco team from 2000 to 2004. His son, Mathieu Criquielion, turned professional for the Landbouwkrediet-Colnago team in 2005; Claude Criquielion became the team's manager.
From 2006 until his death Criquielion was an alderman for the liberal MR in Lessines.
In the night of 15 to 16 February 2015, Criquielion suffered a cerebrovascular accident and he was hospitalized in critical condition.[1] Criquelion died at 9:00 AM on 18 February 2015 in a hospital in Aalst.[2][3]
1 Career achievements
1.1 Major results
1.2 Tour de France results
Career achievements[edit]
Major results[edit]
7th overall, Paris–Nice
2nd, La Flèche Wallonne
2nd, Liège–Bastogne–Liège
2nd, Tour du Haut Var
8th, Tour of Flanders
6th Giro di Lombardia
Belgium National Cycling Championship
5th, E3 Prijs Vlaanderen
1st, La Flèche Wallonne
2nd, Amstel Gold Race
7th Giro d'Italia
1st, Critérium des As
5th, Gent–Wevelgem
3rd, Amstel Gold Race
8th, Championnat de Zurich
1st Memorial Samyn
10th overall, Paris–Nice
1st Tour of Flanders
3rd Liège–Bastogne–Liège
7th, Giro di Lombardia
1st, GP du Midi Libre
3rd, La Flèche Wallonne
4th, Liège–Bastogne–Liège
9th, Amstel Gold Race
1st overall, 1st mountains, 1st combined, Tour of Romandie
1st, Grand Prix Eddy Merckx
1st Road race, UCI Road World Championships
8th, Tour du Haut Var
1st, Clásica de San Sebastián
1st, Brabantse Pijl
Tour de France results[edit]
1990 – 9th
1989 – 36th
^ Ex-wereldkampioen wielrennen Criquielion kritiek na hersenberoerte
^ Claude Criquielion overleden
^ Claudy Criquielion: Cyclist whose many wins were overshadowed by a race he famously lost and the ensuing legal fall-out
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1927: Binda
1928, 1929: Ronsse
1931: Guerra
1933: Speicher
1934: Kaers
1935: Aerts
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Jules Vanhevel (1920)
René Vermandel (1921)
Léon Devos (1922)
Heiri Suter (1923)
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Julien Delbecque (1925)
Denis Verschueren (1926)
Jan Mertens (1928)
Joseph Dervaes (1929)
Frans Bonduel (1930)
Romain Gijssels (1931–1932)
Alphonse Schepers (1933)
Gaston Rebry (1934)
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Michel D'Hooghe (1937)
Edgard de Caluwé (1938)
Karel Kaers (1939)
Achiel Buysse (1940–1941)
Briek Schotte (1942)
Achiel Buysse (1943)
Rik Van Steenbergen (1944)
Sylvain Grysolle (1945)
Emiel Faignaert (1947)
Fiorenzo Magni (1949–1951)
Roger Decock (1952)
Wim van Est (1953)
Raymond Impanis (1954)
Louison Bobet (1955)
Jean Forestier (1956)
Fred De Bruyne (1957)
Germain Derycke (1958)
Rik Van Looy (1959)
Arthur Decabooter (1960)
Tom Simpson (1961)
Noël Foré (1963)
Rudi Altig (1964)
Jo de Roo (1965)
Edward Sels (1966)
Dino Zandegù (1967)
Walter Godefroot (1968)
Eddy Merckx (1969)
Eric Leman (1970)
Evert Dolman (1971)
Eric Leman (1972–1973)
Cees Bal (1974)
Walter Planckaert (1976)
Roger De Vlaeminck (1977)
Jan Raas (1979)
Michel Pollentier (1980)
Hennie Kuiper (1981)
René Martens (1982)
Johan Lammerts (1984)
Eric Vanderaerden (1985)
Adri van der Poel (1986)
Claude Criquielion (1987)
Eddy Planckaert (1988)
Edwig Van Hooydonck (1989)
Moreno Argentin (1990)
Jacky Durand (1992)
Johan Museeuw (1993)
Gianni Bugno (1994)
Michele Bartoli (1996)
Rolf Sørensen (1997)
Peter Van Petegem (1999)
Andrei Tchmil (2000)
Gianluca Bortolami (2001)
Andrea Tafi (2002)
Steffen Wesemann (2004)
Tom Boonen (2005–2006)
Stijn Devolder (2008–2009)
Fabian Cancellara (2010)
Nick Nuyens (2011)
Tom Boonen (2012)
Fabian Cancellara (2013–2014)
Alexander Kristoff (2015)
Philippe Gilbert (2017)
Niki Terpstra (2018)
Alberto Bettiol (2019)
Belgian National Road Race Champion (men)
Léon Houa (1894)
Henri Luyten (1895–1896)
Henri Bertrand (1897–1898)
Jules Degeetere (1899)
Mathieu Quoidbach (1900)
Paul Burger (1901)
Jules Defrance (1902)
Arthur Vanderstuyft (1903)
Jules Sales (1904)
Dieudonné Jamar (1905)
Francois Verstraeten (1907–1908)
Cyrille van Hauwaert (1909)
Henri Hanlet (1910)
Odile Defraye (1911)
Omer Verschoore (1912)
Joseph Van Daele (1913)
Victor Dethier (1914)
Jean Rossius (1919)
Jules Vanhevel (1920–1921)
Félix Sellier (1923)
August Mortelmans (1927)
Joseph Wauters (1929–1930)
Georges Lemaire (1932)
Louis Roels (1934)
Gustave Danneels (1935)
Jean Aerts (1936)
Petrus Van Theemsche (1938)
Marcel Kint (1939)
Odiel Van Den Meersschaut (1940)
André Defoort (1941)
André Maelbrancke (1942)
Rik Van Steenbergen (1943, 1945)
Émile Masson Jr. (1946–1947)
Valère Ollivier (1949)
Albert Ramon (1950)
Lode Anthonis (1951)
Jozef Schils (1952)
Alois Vansteenkiste (1953)
Emiel Van Cauter (1955)
André Vlayen (1956–1957)
Petrus Oellibrandt (1959)
Frans De Mulder (1960)
Michel Van Aerde (1961)
Jef Planckaert (1962)
Guido Reybrouck (1966)
Jozef Boons (1967)
Julien Stevens (1968)
Herman Van Springel (1971)
Frans Verbeeck (1973)
Roger Swerts (1974)
Willy Teirlinck (1975)
Freddy Maertens (1976)
Michel Pollentier (1977–1978)
Gery Verlinden (1979)
Jos Jacobs (1980)
Frank Hoste (1982)
Lucien Van Impe (1983)
Paul Haghedooren (1985)
Marc Sergeant (1986)
Ferdi Van Den Haute (1987)
Etienne De Wilde (1988)
Carlo Bomans (1989)
Benjamin Van Itterbeeck (1991)
Alain Van Den Bossche (1993)
Wilfried Nelissen (1994–1995)
Tom Steels (1997–1998)
Ludo Dierckxsens (1999)
Axel Merckx (2000)
Ludovic Capelle (2001)
Tom Steels (2002)
Geert Omloop (2003)
Serge Baguet (2005)
Niko Eeckhout (2006)
Stijn Devolder (2007)
Jürgen Roelandts (2008)
Jens Debusschere (2014)
Preben Van Hecke (2015)
Oliver Naesen (2017)
Yves Lampaert (2018)
Tim Merlier (2019)
Belgian Sportsperson of the Year
1967 Ferdinand Bracke
1968 Serge Reding
1969–1974 Eddy Merckx
1975 Bruno Brokken
1976 Ivo Van Damme
1977 Michel Pollentier
1978 Raymond Ceulemans
1979–1980 Robert Van de Walle
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1982 Jacky Ickx
1983 Eddy Annys
1984 Claude Criquielion
1985 Gaston Rahier & Vincent Rousseau
1986 William Van Dijck
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1988 Eric Geboers
1989 Thierry Boutsen
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1991 Jean-Michel Saive
1993 Vincent Rousseau
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2013 Kirsten Flipkens
2014 Nafissatou Thiam
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2005 Niels Albert
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2009 Romelu Lukaku
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2015 Tiesj Benoot
2016 Louise Carton
2017 Lotte Kopecky
2018 Remco Evenepoel
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2011 Wim Decleir
2012 Marieke Vervoort
2013 Joachim Gérard
2014 Michèle George
2016 Laurens Devos
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2013–2014 Marc Wilmots
2015 Hein Vanhaezebrouck
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2018 Roberto Martínez
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Custom «The Horror Movie Psycho» Essay Paper
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When Psycho first appeared, it was a shock. At first the picture seemed like a familiar Hitchcock melodrama of guilty escape: a woman, on the run with stolen money, stops for the night in a tatty motel, chats with the eccentric owner, takes a shower. And then, 44 minutes in, the movie goes a little mad. Exit leading lady, in a whirlpool of blood. New characters appear, are slaughtered or imperiled. What the hell is going on here? Audiences knew (it was one of Hitchcock's most profitable films), but the critics were annoyed, dismissive. It took a while for them to come around.
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Alfred Hitchcock’s Psycho first opened in the summer of 1960, viewers were faced with a new kind of film, and they responded to it in ways that had not been witnessed since the earliest motion picture projections of the Lumières’s oncoming train shook and disoriented unsuspecting audiences with excitement and even terror. As Linda Williams explains it, when viewing Psycho, “audiences took pleasure in losing the kind of control they had been trained to enjoy in classical narrative cinema” (15). This loss of control was manifested in “gasps, screams, yells, even running up and down the aisles,” all of which was “unprecedented” (15). Lines began forming around theaters at 8:00 a.m., and theater owners reported “people going berserk in the audience” and even some who fainted (Rebello 161). Some moviegoers walked out of the film in disgust, theaters were boycotted, and churches and psychiatrists talked of banning the film. As Stephen Rebello puts it, “Never before had any director so worked the emotions of the audience like stops on an organ console” (162).
Shot on a low budget in black and white by a television crew, Psycho was Hitchcock’s antithesis to many of the larger-than-life Technicolor thrillers—Rear Window (1954), Dial M for Murder (1954), To Catch a Thief (1955), The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956), Vertigo (1958), North by Northwest (1959) that had immediately preceded it. As psychologically, socially, and narratively complex as those films are, they do not approach Psycho’s simple starkness, grotesque violence, and ugly, twisted humanity. Psycho was, in more than one sense, a completely unexpected movie, which was enhanced by several factors: Hitchcock filming the movie in the utmost secrecy; the marketing scheme utilizing a vague trailer that offered no scenes from the film itself—only Hitchcock in his familiar, televisual Alfred Hitchcock Presents persona giving a tour of the movie set while speaking in vague generalities about murders and the woman and, most importantly, Hitchcock’s now-famous insistence that no one be allowed to enter the theater once the film had begun, not even the manager’s brother, the President of the United States, or the Queen of England (God bless her)!
Because of the effect Psycho had on both the horror cinema and the American culture at large, it has been one of the most written about, analyzed, and scrutinized of Hitchcock’s films. With the exception of the Odessa Steps sequence from Sergei Eisenstein’s Battleship Potemkin (1925), Psycho’s infamous shower murder has been deconstructed and analyzed more than any other sequence in motion picture history. As a whole and in its separate parts, Psycho has been explored from literally every possible angle, although the favorite mode of analysis has been some variation of Freudian psychology. It has been analyzed in terms of how semiotics and psychoanalysis affect classic film structure (Hesling, 181–89); how the replacement of one narrative structure (Marion’s) by a second (Norman’s) is metaphorically the confrontation of “two psychic structures” (Bellour, 311–31); how questions of sexual identity and its containment affect the narrative structure and how identification with the characters relates to the Freudian psyche, to name just a few.
Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho (1960) uses the horror genre to explore transgression and taboo within the framework of Cold War society. Psycho focuses first on Marion Crane (Janet Leigh), a real estate secretary, who longs to marry her boyfriend Sam Loomis (John Gavin) but cannot because of financial constraints. Returning from a rendezvous with Sam, Marion steals $40,000 she is supposed to deposit in the bank, a cash transaction brought to the office by Tom Cassidy (Frank Albertson), a vulgar client of the real estate agency. Marion then begins driving toward Sam in Fairvale, California. Overwhelmed by rain, she stops at the Bates Motel where she meets Norman Bates (Anthony Perkins), a seemingly nice but lonely young man. Marion resolves to return the money but is brutally stabbed in the shower by Norman's mother.
Marion's sister Lila (Vera Miles), Arbogast (Martin Balsam) a private detective and Sam, start searching for Marion. Arbogast finds her way to the motel and tries to talk to Mrs. Bates but is viciously stabbed by her. Sam and Lila probe at the motel and Lila finds out Mrs. Bates in the fruit cellar, making them notice that she is a cadaver and Norman has been using her as a cover and performing the murders. A psychiatrist concludes Norman's emotional state, debating that following murdering his mother and her devotee, he started to be obsessed by the personality of Mrs. Bates. Now, her character has taken over.
As Marion plans to take the money she whines about a headache. Cassidy lets her know that she requires a weekend in Las Vegas. Marion answers back that she is going to spend the weekend in bed and with that she wants to indicate the desire that she wanted to be in ed with Sam. After coming back to home to pack, Marion puts the money on the bed, once more representing its position as pointer of her erotic longing for Sam.
The film juxtaposes her reckless desire with Sam's cautious desire for her. Sam represents a character who understands limited transgression, but the full erotic transgression Marion enacts. Critics argue that lovers tend to negate a social order that contests more often than it grants their right to live, that never yields to such a trifling thing as personal preference. While this statement would easily apply to Marion's attempt to negate the social in favor of her desire, Sam seems to stand for the very taboo she violates. Critics have noted the doubling between Marion and Norman that the film presents. Raymond Bellour argues that initially upon viewing the film it appears that "the psychiatrist's commentary on Norman Bates has little to do with the love scene between Marion and Sam in the Phoenix hotel" (Bellour, 311–31). Bellour argues that the film is split as our sympathies shift from the subject of neurosis (Marion) to the subject of psychosis (Norman). William Rothman observes that Psycho's grand irony has Sam, in the end, writing a letter to Marion in which he confesses she was right, as her corpse jam-packed in the trunk of the vehicle, lies underneath the slough. (Rothman, 18-22)
Nevertheless, the role which most strongly reflects Marion's transgression is one who in addition pays for her erotic yearning with demise as well, the other woman who is sacrifice in the film--Mrs. Bates. If one deems the psychiatrist's remarks about Mrs. Bates, she was a clinging, difficult woman who distorted Norman into the psycho we view in the horror film. However, critics have often been in doubt about the psychiatrist's description of Mrs. Bates in the film.
While these are all useful and worthwhile methods of analysis that have shed a great deal of light on the structure and functioning of the various textual and symbolic systems at work within Psycho, they do little to explain exactly why audiences in 1960 experienced such intense reactions to the film. Most of the analysis mentioned above (and much more not mentioned) involves greatly detailed and painstaking deconstruction of the film to get at its psychological roots. And, although those roots are certainly responsible for how the film plays to audiences, they are still precisely that—roots—meaning most of them are buried far beneath the film’s more obvious surface features to which initial audiences would have first reacted.
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Exeter College provides tertiary education for around 10,000 – 12,000 students. The college was established in 1970 as the first tertiary college in the UK, bringing together the former grammar schools' sixth forms and Exeter Technical College. Click here to View the College video.
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In 2016, Exeter College was named Centre of the Year at the coveted Lion Awards, the City & Guilds’ most prestigious awards event. Our current Apprenticeship success rates (2015-16) place Exeter College as the number one college provider in the south west and number nine in the country.
The college saw its best ever A Level results in 2016. Our A Level pass rate was 99.8%, with 54% of A Level students gaining the very highest grades A*, A and B grades.
In May 2016, Exeter College was awarded a Times Educational Supplement Further Education Award 2016 for Apprenticeship Programme of the Year.
Exeter College and Devon County Council was recognised nationally for the pioneering and innovative Haven Banks Outdoor Education Centre. The partnership was recognised with an Association of Colleges (AoC) Beacon Award for Innovation 2015-16 in Further Education.
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An Exploration of How Family Dinners Are Served and How Service Style Is Associated With Dietary and Weight Outcomes in Children
Katie A. Loth, Melissa Horning, Sarah Friend, Dianne Neumark-Sztainer, Jayne Fulkerson
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Objective To explore how families serve meals and how different service styles are associated with responsive feeding and child dietary and weight outcomes. Methods Baseline data from a subset (n = 75) of randomized controlled trial participants (Healthy Home Offerings via the Mealtime Environment (HOME) Plus study, aged 8–12 years) were analyzed using a series of linear regression models. Adjusted means (95% confidence intervals) and beta coefficients (SEs) are presented. Results Families were most likely to report plated meal service (36% of families), followed by family-style (29%). Family-style was significantly associated with a lower mean level of food restriction (P =.01). No significant associations were observed between style of meal service and child outcomes (all P >.05). Conclusions and Implications Although plated meal service may seem like a desirable strategy for ensuring that children eat a healthier diet, the current results did not provide support for this association. Evidence was found to support the use of family-style meal service to promote the use of responsive feeding.
513-518.e1
Journal of Nutrition Education and Behavior
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Loth, K. A., Horning, M., Friend, S., Neumark-Sztainer, D., & Fulkerson, J. (2017). An Exploration of How Family Dinners Are Served and How Service Style Is Associated With Dietary and Weight Outcomes in Children. Journal of Nutrition Education and Behavior, 49(6), 513-518.e1. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jneb.2017.03.003
An Exploration of How Family Dinners Are Served and How Service Style Is Associated With Dietary and Weight Outcomes in Children. / Loth, Katie A.; Horning, Melissa; Friend, Sarah; Neumark-Sztainer, Dianne; Fulkerson, Jayne.
In: Journal of Nutrition Education and Behavior, Vol. 49, No. 6, 01.06.2017, p. 513-518.e1.
Loth, KA, Horning, M, Friend, S, Neumark-Sztainer, D & Fulkerson, J 2017, 'An Exploration of How Family Dinners Are Served and How Service Style Is Associated With Dietary and Weight Outcomes in Children' Journal of Nutrition Education and Behavior, vol. 49, no. 6, pp. 513-518.e1. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jneb.2017.03.003
Loth KA, Horning M, Friend S, Neumark-Sztainer D, Fulkerson J. An Exploration of How Family Dinners Are Served and How Service Style Is Associated With Dietary and Weight Outcomes in Children. Journal of Nutrition Education and Behavior. 2017 Jun 1;49(6):513-518.e1. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jneb.2017.03.003
Loth, Katie A. ; Horning, Melissa ; Friend, Sarah ; Neumark-Sztainer, Dianne ; Fulkerson, Jayne. / An Exploration of How Family Dinners Are Served and How Service Style Is Associated With Dietary and Weight Outcomes in Children. In: Journal of Nutrition Education and Behavior. 2017 ; Vol. 49, No. 6. pp. 513-518.e1.
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If we had to describe this year in one word, it would be “historic.”
Although we had some bumps along the way, Congress finally stood up for the American people and passed the Affordable Care Act. The law expands health care to millions of Americans who have been left without coverage and will offer a host of new consumer protections that ensure you get the best bang for your health care dollar.
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Will Nick Foles Be The Eagles’ Jeff Hostetler? Or Their Connor Cook?
Dec. 12, 2017 , at 3:30 PM
By Daniel Levitt
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That’s not Carson Wentz. And that’s a problem.
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When Carson Wentz entered the blue sideline tent of doom on Sunday, he took close to 60 years of unfulfilled football dreams in Philadelphia with him. At that moment, the 10-2 Eagles had just taken a lead on the road against one of the NFC’s best teams. Shortly thereafter, the second-year quarterback limped down the tunnel at L.A. Memorial Coliseum, forcing backup quarterback Nick Foles to take over for the remainder of the game. In just a few minutes, the Eagles’ unexpected dream season was seemingly cut down by hard luck — something that comes with the territory in Philadelphia.
We now know that Wentz tore the ACL in his left knee and will miss the rest of the season. It’s a huge blow to the Eagles’ Super Bowl hopes, and they’ll have to lean on someone other than Wentz and his MVP-caliber offense. The sophomore quarterback has been so good this season that the Eagles ranked third in the league in offensive expected points added — behind only the Patriots and Saints — and his 33 touchdown passes through 13 games are third-most in NFL history for quarterbacks in their first or second year, behind only future Hall of Famers Dan Marino and Kurt Warner.
Fortunately for Doug Pederson’s men, the win over the Rams secured a playoff berth with three weeks to spare, and their remaining games against the Giants, Raiders and Cowboys should give Foles enough time to feel comfortable as the leader of a playoff team again. Foles is uniquely familiar with this position: In Week 5 of 2013, he was forced into action when starter Michael Vick suffered an injury. Foles became the unlikely savior that year, as he steered the Eagles to an 8-3 record for the remainder of the season and a wild-card berth. Along the way, he compiled an eye-popping passer rating of 119.2, the third best in NFL history, and a touchdown-to-interception ratio of 13.5, the second-best of all time.
While there’s little doubt over whether Philly will bypass the wild-card round — one more regular-season win will secure a first-round bye for the Eagles — let’s not kid ourselves about their overall playoff chances: History is not on Philadelphia’s side. No one is expecting Foles to repeat his 2013 performance and keep the team’s run going. We’ve seen this scenario unfold before. In fact, a backup being thrown into the fire of playoff football is quickly becoming an annual NFL tradition. Last year, Connor Cook, a third-stringer, started his first game ever for the Raiders, who lost star Derek Carr (then backup Matt McGloin) as their dream season turned into a nightmare. And two seasons ago, Alabama-star-turned-professional-clipboard-holder A.J. McCarron started a wild-card game for Cincinnati in the wake of the Bengals losing Andy Dalton in Week 14.
As expected, this usually doesn’t go well. Cook and McCarron both lost in the playoffs, posting passer ratings of 30 and 68.3, respectively. Neither has started a game since. In total, Wentz will be one of only eight quarterbacks in the Super Bowl era to win 10 or more games for a future playoff team and not appear in the postseason, according to the Elias Sports Bureau. Among the backups for these teams, only two won at least one playoff game.
Will Nick Foles keep Philly flying?
Quarterbacks that won at least 10 games in a season for their playoff-bound teams but didn’t make a playoff start, since 1970
BACKUP QB
TEAM PLAYOFF RECORD
2017 Philadelphia Carson Wentz 11 Nick Foles ?
2016 Oakland Derek Carr 12 Connor Cook 0-1
2015 Cincinnati Andy Dalton 10 A.J. McCarron 0-1
2012 Minnesota Christian Ponder 10 Joe Webb 0-1
2005 Chicago Kyle Orton 10 Rex Grossman 0-1
1999 Buffalo Doug Flutie 10 Rob Johnson 0-1
1990 Chicago Jim Harbaugh 10 Mike Tomczak 1-1
1990 N.Y. Giants Phil Simms 11 Jeff Hostetler 3-0
Source: ELIAS Sports Bureau, Pro-Football-Reference.com
There’s some hope here for Foles and the Eagles in the form of Jeff Hostetler, who stepped in and led the 1990 Giants to a Super Bowl victory after New York lost starting quarterback Phil Simms to a fractured foot in Week 15. Granted, that New York team rested heavily on their defense to claw them to glory — and last time we checked, the Eagles don’t have Lawrence Taylor. The Giants gave up the fewest points in the league that year and succeeded by not asking Hostetler to do too much.
With this in mind, Philly should probably channel any remaining optimism toward its defense, which ranks fifth in the league in points allowed this season. Since he took over the defensive playcalling in 2016, Jim Schwartz has quickly turned his unit into one of the top defenses in the NFL: The Eagles ranked 18th in defensive EPA the season before Schwartz took over and rank fourth in the league through 13 games this year. The D could be the team’s best hope of making a deep run in January.
The 2017 season might be remembered as “the year of the injured quarterback,” and in Week 14, it was Philadelphia’s turn feel the bite. The Eagles will be fine with Wentz as their franchise quarterback of the future, but in the present, Philly fans can only hope their team mimics the 1990 Giants and their defense comes through for them.
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Week 14 in our NFL predictions game — in which we invite you to outsmart our Elo algorithm — saw the readers suffer three heavy defeats. The Chiefs rebounded from four straight losses to beat the Raiders, which gave the readers a net loss of 10.4 points. Miami shocked New England on Monday night and won at home 27-20 to give the readers a loss of 11.5 points. And on Thursday night, the readers incorrectly predicted that the Saints would beat the Falcons, handing them a net loss of 11.7 points. There was only one victory over our Elo algorithm in which the readers scored double-digit points: San Francisco beat Houston 26-16, and because the readers had less confidence in the Texans than Elo did, the readers netted 13.9 points.
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TB 50 DET 57 DET 24, TB 21 +4.2
LAR 52 PHI 52 PHI 43, LAR 35 +2.1
DAL 61 DAL 67 DAL 30, NYG 10 +1.9
CIN 71 CIN 71 CHI 33, CIN 7 -1.2
LAC 69 LAC 68 WAS 13, LAC 30 -2.5
PIT 71 PIT 70 BAL 38, PIT 39 -3.1
GB 77 GB 76 GB 27, CLE 21 -3.2
BUF 72 BUF 69 IND 7, BUF 13 -3.9
SEA 53 SEA 55 SEA 24, JAX 30 -4.2
TEN 53 TEN 57 TEN 7, ARI 12 -6.0
DEN 50 NYJ 55 NYJ 0, DEN 23 -7.9
MIN 53 MIN 58 MIN 24, CAR 31 -8.1
KC 67 KC 57 OAK 15, KC 26 -10.4
NE 81 NE 87 NE 20, MIA 27 -11.5
ATL 56 NO 54 NO 17, ATL 20 -11.7
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Thomas, Gesner thru THOMAS, GISELLE DENIELLE
Thomas, Gesner was born 28 November 1960, is male, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 2820 Nw 10Th Ct, Ft Lauderdale, Florida 33311-5608. Florida voter ID number 102170303. His telephone number is 1-754-366-4247. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
31 May 2015 voter list: Gesner Thomas, 2820 NW 10th Ct, Ft Lauderdale, FL 33311 Florida Democratic Party.
Thomas, Gevanie O Brian was born 22 April 1986, is male, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 5114 N 44Th St, Tampa, Florida 33610. Florida voter ID number 110813240. His telephone number is 1-813-370-5107. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
31 August 2016 voter list: Gevanie O. Thomas, 5114 N 44Th ST, Tampa, FL 33610 Florida Democratic Party.
THOMAS, GHALE C. was born 23 June 1930, is male, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 5137 Silhouette Ct, Weeki Wachee, Florida 34607. Florida voter ID number 104423050. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 July 2016.
30 June 2015 voter list: GHALE C. THOMAS, 823 SE 3RD ST, OCALA, FL 34471 Republican Party of Florida.
31 May 2012 voter list: GHALE C. THOMAS, , , FL Republican Party of Florida.
THOMAS, GHALE C. was born 1 December 1953, is male, registered as No Party Affiliation, residing at 5137 Silhouette Ct, Spring Hill, Florida 34607. Florida voter ID number 120052421. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
31 July 2016 voter list: GHALE C. THOMAS, 5137 SILHOUETTE CT, WEEKI WACHEE, FL 34607 No Party Affiliation.
31 May 2016 voter list: GHALE C. THOMAS, 823 SE 3RD ST, OCALA, FL 34471 No Party Affiliation.
Thomas, Ghislaine born 10 December 1952, Florida voter ID number 124834705 See Thomas-Gabin, Ghislaine. CLICK HERE.
Thomas, Ghislaine was born 24 December 1954, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 2283 Summit St, Port Charlotte, Florida 33948. Florida voter ID number 122576395. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Gia-Amari Nicole was born 5 September 1985, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 1416 Leighton Ave, Lakeland, Florida 33803. Florida voter ID number 105186625. The voter lists a mailing address and probably prefers you use it: 1733 Jefferson Dr Sandy Springs GA 30350. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 December 2018.
31 May 2012 voter list: GIA-AMARI N. THOMAS, 1329 AIRPORT DR, APT G19, TALLAHASSEE, FL 32304 Florida Democratic Party.
THOMAS, GIA JOYCE was born 20 May 1969, is female, registered as No Party Affiliation, residing at 16031 93Rd Rd N, Loxahatchee, Florida 33470. Florida voter ID number 112622931. Her telephone number is 689-1314 (no area code listed). This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
THOMAS, GIANG was born 2 January 1955, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 7601 San Carlos Dr, Fort Pierce, Florida 34951. Florida voter ID number 115175437. Her telephone number is 1-772-940-9468. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Gianna Quinn Lee born 26 April 1993, Florida voter ID number 123085899 See Sheen, Gianna Quinn-Lee. CLICK HERE.
THOMAS, GIANNI A. was born 17 October 1995, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 2764 Coral Reef Dr, Orlando, Florida 32826. Florida voter ID number 123107865. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Gideon Moses Kiel was born 15 February 1984, is male, registered as Independent Party of Florida, residing at 12320 Holmwood Greens Pl, Riverview, Florida 33579. Florida voter ID number 120468663. His telephone number is 1-727-348-3559. The voter lists a mailing address and probably prefers you use it: 1300 FALSE CREEK WAY CHESPEAKE VA 23322. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
31 October 2018 voter list: Gideon Moses Kiel Thomas, 13308 AMBER SKY Pl, Riverview, FL 335797278 Independent Party of Florida.
31 October 2016 voter list: Gideon Moses Kiel Thomas, 12320 HOLMWOOD GREENS PL, Riverview, FL 335793945 Independent Party of Florida.
30 April 2016 voter list: Gideon M. Thomas, 12320 Holmwood Greens Pl, Riverview, FL 335793945 Independent Party of Florida.
31 December 2014 voter list: Gideon M. Thomas, 13215 EVENING SUNSET LN, Riverview, FL 33579 Independent Party of Florida.
THOMAS, GIDGETTA M. was born 27 August 1968, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 25742 Ne Alliance Rd, Altha, Florida 32421. Florida voter ID number 102537127. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
THOMAS, GIFFORD ANTHONY was born 16 November 1971, is male, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 2287 Oshkosh Ct, Orlando, Florida 32818. Florida voter ID number 112909068. His telephone number is 1-954-661-2730. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
30 September 2016 voter list: Gifford Anthony Thomas, 12538 SW Kingsway Cir, #1006, Lake Suzy, FL 34269 Republican Party of Florida.
Thomas, Gigi Alesia was born 2 October 1987, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 5607 Bryner Dr, Jacksonville, Florida 32244. Florida voter ID number 116241630. The voter lists a mailing address and probably prefers you use it: 396 E Southwest Pkwy Apt 2814 Lewisville TX 75067-6354. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
28 February 2015 voter list: Gigi Alesia Thomas, 5545 Playa Way, #2, Jacksonville, FL 32211 Florida Democratic Party.
31 March 2014 voter list: Gigi Alesia Thomas, 7528 Arlington Exp, Apt 514, Jacksonville, FL 32211 Florida Democratic Party.
31 May 2012 voter list: GIGI ALESIA THOMAS, 2701 BARDSWOOD LN, TALLAHASSEE, FL 32305 Florida Democratic Party.
Thomas, Gihan K. was born 12 March 1982, is male, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 7615 Nw 6Th Ct, Miami, Florida 33150. Florida voter ID number 116909750. The voter lists a mailing address and probably prefers you use it: P O BOX 2503 Jacksonville FL 32203. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Gilbert born 7 July 1940, Florida voter ID number 116266016 See F, Gilbert. CLICK HERE.
Thomas, Gilbert Artenas was born 13 October 1951, is male, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 139 Robbins Ave, Port St Joe, Florida 32456-1407. Florida voter ID number 104294221. His telephone number is 1-407-341-7108. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
31 August 2014 voter list: Gilbert Artenas Thomas, 350 Sanwick DR, Jacksonville, FL 32218 Florida Democratic Party.
31 May 2012 voter list: Gilbert Artenas Thomas, 9800 Touchton Rd, Apt 526, Jacksonville, FL 322468289 Florida Democratic Party.
THOMAS, GILBERT D. was born 5 December 1922, is male, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 2185 Se Stargrass St, Pt St Lucie, Florida 34984-4727. Florida voter ID number 108105335. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
31 December 2018 voter list: GILBERT D. THOMAS, 1992 SE JOY HAVEN ST, PT ST LUCIE, FL 34983 Republican Party of Florida.
Thomas, Gilbert Francis was born 11 March 1966, is male, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 8119 Woodvine Cir, Lakeland, Florida 33810. Florida voter ID number 113499667. His telephone number is 1-863-853-8267. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Gilbert Francis was born 20 August 1943, is male, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 1428 E Elm Rd, Lakeland, Florida 33801-0000. Florida voter ID number 113584704. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
31 March 2015 voter list: GILBERT FRANCIS THOMAS, 1428 E ELM RD, LAKELAND, FL 33801 Republican Party of Florida.
Thomas, Gilbert Francis was born 27 November 1990, is male, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 263 Lake Thomas Dr, Winter Haven, Florida 33880. Florida voter ID number 117498785. His telephone number is 1-863-232-9686. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
30 November 2018 voter list: Gilbert Francis Thomas, 8119 Woodvine CIR, Lakeland, FL 338105161 Republican Party of Florida.
30 April 2016 voter list: Gilbert Francis Thomas, 548 Timberlane E, APT 4, Lakeland, FL 33801 Republican Party of Florida.
31 May 2013 voter list: GILBERT FRANCIS THOMAS, 8119 WOODVINE CIR, LAKELAND, FL 33810 Republican Party of Florida.
Thomas, Gilbert H. was born 24 February 1959, is male, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 8422 Liman Dr, New Port Richey, Florida 34653. Florida voter ID number 106465188. The voter lists a mailing address and probably prefers you use it: Urb Vale Quente Lote 3 1E Arruda 2630358 PORTUGAL. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 30 June 2017.
Thomas, Gilbert Hugh was born 11 May 1962, is male, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 3230 18Th Ave Se, Naples, Florida 34117. Florida voter ID number 126548538. The voter lists a mailing address and probably prefers you use it: PO BOX 110394 NAPLES FL 34108. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Gilbert J. was born 16 March 1930, is male, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 4141 S Tom Ave, Inverness, Florida 34452. Florida voter ID number 102680429. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2013.
Thomas, Gilbert Jonathan was born 26 June 1985, is male, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 5711 Olympia St, New Port Richey, Florida 34652. Florida voter ID number 116585763. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 30 June 2017.
Thomas, Gilbert Jonathan Daniel was born 26 June 1985, is male, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 11246 Pine Forest Dr, New Port Richey, Florida 34654. Florida voter ID number 125811149. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Gilbert L. was born 29 August 1929, is male, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 12609 Cold Stream Dr, Fort Myers, Florida 33912. Florida voter ID number 111627899. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 28 February 2019.
Thomas, Gilbert Melvin was born 14 October 1941, is male, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 465 N Bridgestone Ave, Saint Johns, Florida 32259-7928. Florida voter ID number 107604927. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
31 May 2013 voter list: Gilbert Melvin Thomas, 465 N Bridgestone AVE, Saint Johns, FL 32259 Republican Party of Florida.
31 May 2012 voter list: Gilbert M. Thomas, 2776 Venetian Ct, Gulf Breeze, FL 32563 Republican Party of Florida.
THOMAS, GILBERT MILTON was born 9 June 1948, is male, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 13721 Sw 1St Ln, Ocala, Florida 34481. Florida voter ID number 101954867. His telephone number is 1-954-923-5878. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
31 May 2012 voter list: GILBERT MILTON THOMAS, , , FL Florida Democratic Party.
Thomas, Gilberto was born 1 September 1956, is male, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 8010 Crespi Blvd, Apt 3, Miami Beach, Florida 33141. Florida voter ID number 119037299. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Gilian Denise was born 26 August 1969, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 4232 Ne 9Th St, Homestead, Florida 33033. Florida voter ID number 108677552. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
28 February 2018 voter list: Gilian Denise Thomas, 2900 SE 12Th RD, #203, HOMESTEAD, FL 33035 Florida Democratic Party.
30 September 2015 voter list: Gilian Denise Thomas, 14504 SW 280Th ST, APT 107, Homestead, FL 330328342 Florida Democratic Party.
31 May 2012 voter list: Gilian Denise Thomas, 14239 SW 272Nd Ln, Miami, FL 33032 Florida Democratic Party.
THOMAS, GILLETTE SAINT was born 8 October 1998, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 1248 Verde Pines Ct, Ocoee, Florida 34761. Florida voter ID number 123951597. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Gillian Anne was born 4 October 1978, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 1819 Nw Sunset Blvd, Jensen Beach, Florida 34957. Florida voter ID number 101937431. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
31 July 2018 voter list: Gillian Anne Thomas, 3971 NE 3Rd AVE, APT 1, Oakland Park, FL 33334 Florida Democratic Party.
31 October 2016 voter list: Gillian Anne Thomas, 3961 NE 3rd Ave, APT 1, Oakland Park, FL 33334 Florida Democratic Party.
31 August 2016 voter list: Gillian Anne Thomas, 3961 NE 3RD AVE, APT 1, Oakland Park, FL 333341361 Florida Democratic Party.
31 May 2015 voter list: Gillian Anne Thomas, 3961 NE 3Rd AVE, APT 1, Oakland Park, FL 33334 Florida Democratic Party.
22 October 2014 voter list: Gillian Anne Thomas, 4557 NW 16TH WAY, Tamarac, FL 33309 Florida Democratic Party.
31 May 2012 voter list: Gillian Anne Thomas, 1931 Lyons Rd, APT 305, Coconut Creek, FL 33063 Florida Democratic Party.
Thomas, Gillian E. was born 15 July 1980, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 165 Nw 96Th Ter, Apt 302, Pembroke Pines, Florida 33024. Florida voter ID number 125528943. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Gillian Laurie was born 3 September 1954, is female, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 3402 Riverview Blvd, Bradenton, Florida 34205-2630. Florida voter ID number 125709615. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
THOMAS, GILLIAN MARY was born 27 April 1947, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 1587 Oakadia Ln, Clearwater, Florida 33764. Florida voter ID number 126160102. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
THOMAS, GILLIAN RHEA was born 25 August 2000, is female, registered as No Party Affiliation, residing at 9119 Co Hwy 183 S, Ponce De Leon, Florida 32455. Florida voter ID number 126486734. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Gillian Westhorp was born 26 November 1965, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 9381 Sw 51St Ter, Miami, Florida 33165. Florida voter ID number 109246612. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
THOMAS, GILLIS was born 24 November 1953, is male, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 103 Elm St, Pensacola, Florida 32506. Florida voter ID number 104010531. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Gilroy Ellermond was born 6 March 1948, is male, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 3623 Scrub Creek Run, Bradenton, Florida 34211-2434. Florida voter ID number 122906235. His telephone number is 1-714-350-1567. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
30 April 2018 voter list: Gilroy Ellermond Thomas, 3033 Esmeralda DR, Sarasota, FL 342436605 Florida Democratic Party.
THOMAS, GIMAE J. was born 21 April 1980, is male, registered as No Party Affiliation, residing at 2665 Dorena Dr, Orlando, Florida 32839. Florida voter ID number 112850064. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 30 November 2016.
THOMAS, GINA was born 20 October 1980, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 676 Sandy Neck Ln, #201, Altamonte Springs, Florida 32714. Florida voter ID number 105160076. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
31 January 2014 voter list: GINA THOMAS, 529 ONE CENTER BLVD, #302, ALTAMONTE SPRINGS, FL 32701 Florida Democratic Party.
31 May 2012 voter list: Gina Thomas, 1090 NW 21St ST, Ft Lauderdale, FL 33311 Florida Democratic Party.
Thomas, Gina born 18 June 1968, Florida voter ID number 109269780 See McNair, Gina. CLICK HERE.
Thomas, Gina was born 10 December 1944, is female, registered as No Party Affiliation, residing at 7800 Sw 129Th Ave, Miami, Florida 33183. Florida voter ID number 125168666. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
THOMAS, GINA ALBERTA was born 27 April 1960, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 2638 Gately Dr E, #126, West Palm Beach, Florida 33415. Florida voter ID number 116050006. Her telephone number is 1-561-571-2214. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
30 June 2018 voter list: GINA ALBERTA THOMAS, 2638 GATELY DR E, APT 126, WEST PALM BEACH, FL 33415 Florida Democratic Party.
31 December 2017 voter list: GINA ALBERTA THOMAS, 2863 BELLAROSA CIR, ROYAL PALM BEACH, FL 33411 Florida Democratic Party.
31 May 2016 voter list: Gina A. Thomas, 4966 Hickory Shores Blvd, Gulf Breeze, FL 32563 Florida Democratic Party.
Thomas, Gina Anne was born 27 September 1975, is female, registered as No Party Affiliation, residing at 4518 Floramar Ter, New Port Richey, Florida 34652. Florida voter ID number 106993886. Her email address is gnathomas@yahoo.com. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
30 September 2018 voter list: Gina A. Thomas, 4250 Savage Station CIR, New Port Richey, FL 34653 No Party Affiliation.
Thomas, Gina Carol was born 12 February 1959, is female, registered as No Party Affiliation, residing at 1220 Oxsalida St, Port Charlotte, Florida 33952. Florida voter ID number 100313197. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 March 2016.
Thomas, Gina Daneen was born 8 October 1977, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 8189 216Th St, O'Brien, Florida 32071. Florida voter ID number 117316240. Her telephone number is 1-386-935-4143. The voter lists a mailing address and probably prefers you use it: 8189 216Th St Obrien FL 32071-0000. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Gina E. was born 14 March 1960, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 9321 Nw 32Nd St, Sunrise, Florida 33351-7105. Florida voter ID number 102031389. Her telephone number is 1-954-747-6285. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
31 May 2015 voter list: Gina E. Thomas, 9321 NW 32nd St, Sunrise, FL 33351 Florida Democratic Party.
THOMAS, GINA I. born 22 January 1986, Florida voter ID number 113015929 See KIMMEL, GINA THOMAS. CLICK HERE.
THOMAS, GINA ILEANA born 22 January 1986, Florida voter ID number 113015929 See KIMMEL, GINA THOMAS. CLICK HERE.
Thomas, Gina Kay was born 20 July 1963, is female, registered as No Party Affiliation, residing at 2530 Sw 27Th Pl, Cape Coral, Florida 33914. Florida voter ID number 125365049. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Gina Lea Etta was born 24 July 1962, is female, registered as No Party Affiliation, residing at 1116 E 15Th St, Jacksonville, Florida 32206. Florida voter ID number 126146323. Her telephone number is 1-904-300-6111. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
THOMAS, GINA LOUISE was born 30 January 1968, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 2200 Gladys St, Apt 202, Largo, Florida 33774. Florida voter ID number 107047287. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
THOMAS, GINA LYNETTE was born 16 September 1971, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 1366 10Th St, West Palm Beach, Florida 33401. Florida voter ID number 112607098. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2017.
THOMAS, GINA LYNN was born 19 December 1969, is female, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 6990 Wirevine Dr, Brooksville, Florida 34602. Florida voter ID number 104852878. Her telephone number is 1-352-223-2067. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
31 October 2018 voter list: Gina L. Thomas, 36438 N CR 44A, Eustis, FL 32736 Republican Party of Florida.
THOMAS, GINA M. was born 14 January 1981, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 272 Royal Palm Dr, Largo, Florida 33771. Florida voter ID number 122603410. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Gina M. was born 2 June 1971, is male, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 9411 La Bianco St, Estero, Florida 33967. Florida voter ID number 116446527. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 28 February 2019.
28 February 2017 voter list: Gina M. Thomas, 9411 La Bianco St, Fort Myers, FL 33967 Republican Party of Florida.
31 May 2012 voter list: GINA M. THOMAS, 20079 PALERMO LAKE CT, ESTERO, FL 33928 Republican Party of Florida.
THOMAS, GINA MARCELLA was born 1 September 1960, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 11556 Captiva Kay Dr, Riverview, Florida 33569. Florida voter ID number 110663995. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 29 February 2016.
Thomas, Gina Marie was born 9 January 1986, is female, registered as No Party Affiliation, residing at 7486 Nw 25Th St, Margate, Florida 33063. Florida voter ID number 124435112. Her telephone number is 1-954-254-6336. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Gina Marie was born 12 May 1958, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 3010 N Woodrow Ave, Tampa, Florida 33603. Florida voter ID number 110523696. Her telephone number is 1-813-225-1720. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Gina Marie was born 16 July 1958, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 12201 Holbrook Dr, Apt 2, Hudson, Florida 34667. Florida voter ID number 119549963. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
31 December 2018 voter list: Gina Marie Thomas, 6440 Spring Flower DR, #12, New Port Richey, FL 34653 Florida Democratic Party.
31 May 2012 voter list: Gina Marie Thomas, 6321 Tennessee AVE, New Port Richey, FL 34653 Florida Democratic Party.
Thomas, Gina Marie was born 26 August 1984, is female, registered as No Party Affiliation, residing at 2425 Outrigger Ln, Naples, Florida 34104. Florida voter ID number 123249536. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
30 September 2018 voter list: Gina Marie Tedesko, 2425 Outrigger LN, Naples, FL 34104 No Party Affiliation.
Thomas, Gina Marie was born 14 October 1973, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 6 E.J. Stringer Rd, Crawfordville, Florida 32327. Florida voter ID number 113786869. Her telephone number is 1-727-481-2661. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
30 June 2015 voter list: Gina Marie Thomas, 7425 US Highway 98 N, APT 23, Lakeland, FL 33809 Florida Democratic Party.
Thomas, Gina Michelle was born 22 July 1983, is female, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 5776 Jade Moon Cir, Milton, Florida 32583. Florida voter ID number 107548169. Her email address is gmthomas722@hotmail.com. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
31 January 2017 voter list: Gina M. Thomas, 5776 Jade Moon Cir, Milton, FL 32583 Republican Party of Florida.
30 June 2015 voter list: Gina M. Thomas, 5776 Jade Moon Dr, Milton, FL 32583 Republican Party of Florida.
THOMAS, GINA MONIQUE was born 3 July 1974, is female, registered as No Party Affiliation, residing at 3612 Crescent Park Blvd, Orlando, Florida 32812. Florida voter ID number 115315176. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
THOMAS, GINA RENEA was born 22 October 1978, is female, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 20 Cornelia St, Freeport, Florida 32439. Florida voter ID number 126017760. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Gina Roessing was born 24 May 1970, is female, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 20 Jackson Ave, Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida 32082-4700. Florida voter ID number 103711392. Her telephone number is 1-904-631-3800. Her email address is gthomasfl@outlook.com. The voter lists a mailing address and probably prefers you use it: 30 Alhambra St Ponte Vedra Bch FL 32082. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
31 October 2016 voter list: Gina R. Thomas, 50 Sea Winds LN E, Ponte Vedra Beach, FL 320824700 Republican Party of Florida.
31 October 2015 voter list: Gina R. Thomas, 30 Alhambra St, Ponte Vedra Beach, FL 320822800 Republican Party of Florida.
31 May 2013 voter list: Gina R. Thomas, 3667 Marsh Park Ct, Jacksonville Beach, FL 32250 Republican Party of Florida.
THOMAS, GINA ROSE was born 17 May 1994, is female, registered as No Party Affiliation, residing at 9558 Chandon Dr, Orlando, Florida 32825. Florida voter ID number 125477410. Her telephone number is 1-267-614-8540. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Gina Rose was born 16 January 1983, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 7520 Grant St, Hollywood, Florida 33024-5354. Florida voter ID number 102147303. Her telephone number is 1-954-961-7299. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
31 May 2015 voter list: Gina Rose Thomas, 7520 Grant St, Hollywood, FL 33024 Florida Democratic Party.
Thomas, Gina Santolini was born 10 September 1969, is female, registered as No Party Affiliation, residing at 11231 Nw 43Rd Ct, Coral Springs, Florida 33065-7201. Florida voter ID number 115124717. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
30 June 2015 voter list: Gina Santolini Thomas, 11231 NW 43rd Ct, Coral Springs, FL 33065 No Party Affiliation.
Thomas, Gina Theresa born 9 November 1983, Florida voter ID number 115356489 See VILLANO, GINA THERESA. CLICK HERE.
THOMAS, GINCY was born 24 May 1970, is female, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 2835 Shetland Ridge Dr, Valrico, Florida 33596. Florida voter ID number 120293476. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
31 October 2016 voter list: GINCY THOMAS, 5186 SE 44TH CIR, OCALA, FL 34480 Republican Party of Florida.
THOMAS, GINCY SMITH was born 12 September 1952, is female, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 431 Nw Decatur Rd, Mayo, Florida 32066. Florida voter ID number 105113656. Her telephone number is 294-2535 (no area code listed). This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Ginelle Bianca was born 4 August 1988, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 6954 Tree Frog Ct, Jacksonville, Florida 32244. Florida voter ID number 118889865. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Ginette was born 6 June 1956, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 11855 Sw 123Rd Ave, Miami, Florida 33186. Florida voter ID number 109442265. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
THOMAS, GINGER ANN was born 3 September 1976, is female, registered as Florida Democratic Party, residing at 2308 Glenshire Ct, Tallahassee, Florida 32309. Florida voter ID number 105063536. Her telephone number is 893-4311 (no area code listed). This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
Thomas, Ginger G. was born 27 February 1949, is female, registered as Republican Party of Florida, residing at 5210 N Branch Ave, Tampa, Florida 33603-2104. Florida voter ID number 110521729. This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 31 May 2019.
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While a lot of people consider ping pong strictly an indoor sport, playing table tennis outside is incredibly fun. It’s an ideal game for deck parties and a perfect excuse to more time out in the sun.
Having said that, the vast majority of ping pong tables aren’t up to the challenge of outdoor play. UV rays can destroy cheap surfaces in a hurry, and that’s not even getting into the question of weatherproofing!
For this guide, we’ve put together a few of our favorite all-weather ping pong tables that are rugged enough for outdoor play! In our reviews, we’ll explain why we think these are the best of the bunch and give you some practical advice for choosing your new gameroom fixture.
STIGA XTR Outdoor Table Tennis Table 63 x 57 x 4 inches $
Cornilleau 250S 61.8 x 5.5 x 59.1 inches $$
Cornilleau 500M 72 x 61 x 29.5 inches $$$
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1.1 STIGA XTR Outdoor Table Tennis Table
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STIGA XTR Outdoor Table Tennis Table
Our budget recommendation, the STIGA XTR offers all the basics of a great outdoor ping pong table for a very low price. It’s completely weatherproof (though you’ll want to bring it inside or cover it in case of very intense weather). It also plays much better than anything else at this price. We suggest it to anyone looking for a solid, dependable outdoor table on a budget.
Unlike most other tables in its price range, the STIGA is nice and sturdy. It has an aluminum and composite tabletop supported by a steel apron and legs. It might be a bit utilitarian, but it feels solid and can easily handle being wheeled around on a regular basis.
The play surface is pretty rugged, too. The silkscreen striping is printed directly onto the table top, with no extra layers to separate or peel on you. It won’t last as long as a Cornilleau, but it’ll last as long as anything else under a grand.
It’s very outdoor-friendly. The 1.25” steel legs are just as thick as Cornilleau’s 250S, and they have similar adjustable levelers to help you compensate for an irregular deck or driveway. The 3” wheels with locks can easily handle the garage and drive, even if they’re not as good on grass as the big Cornilleau wheels.
This is a split table, so it’s great for people tight on space. The halves separate, and they nest into each other when you’re storing the table.
You can use it as a full table, or with one half raised to play against yourself, just like the premium models.
You can get up and running very quickly with the STIGA. It comes nearly fully assembled, and there’s a lot less required from you than with the Cornilleau’s below.
The only thing that holds the halves together is the net clamps, so there’s potential for the two to come apart if one player makes a big lunge. It’s not the end of the world, and it doesn’t happen every time, but it’s definitely a downside compared to the Cornilleau’s below.
The STIGA is rugged, but definitely not indestructible. The play surface isn’t as hardy as Cornilleau’s, for one thing. The French-made tables also have stronger frames and overall higher-quality components which will last years longer. Still, this is as good as it gets for around the $500 mark.
Likewise, while the STIGA plays as well as anything in its price bracket, advanced and ambitious players will want to spend more. The surface doesn’t have the best bounce or spin potential.
Imperfect quality control is one key downside of going with a budget model like this. We’ve seen complaints from the occasional buyer of units with bubbled surfaces, gouges, missing components, and that sort of thing. It’s still fairly rare, but also not something you have to worry about if you invest in a Cornilleau.
Overall, it definitely feels on the cheaper side. It’s made with thin materials and the fit and finish aren’t comparable to a nice Cornilleau. Then again, it’s half the price.
Cornilleau 250S
Our midrange pick, the Cornilleau 250S offers premium performance without spending a fortune. It’s priced neatly in the middle of our budget and ultimate recommendations. More skilful players will definitely appreciate the way the surface performs compared to the cheaper STIGA. We recommend it to the average buyer who plays often enough to justify a higher-end surface, while not needing the absolute best on the market.
The biggest difference between the Cornilleau 250S and the STIGA XTR is the Cornilleau’s play surface. It’s noticeably better, with a denser build using 5mm resin. This isn’t Cornilleau’s most premium model, but it still offers a premium surface! The spin and bounce are stellar. This is the kind of play you expect from an indoor tournament table, only in a more rugged package.
While beginners might not be able to appreciate the difference at first, anyone with experience and some tricks up their sleeve will immediately notice the Cornilleau’s edge. We recommend this to the average buyer because it provides advanced players with a surface deserving of their skills, while also offering new and intermediate players with an opportunity to learn and master tricks and techniques that you can’t reliably do with something like the STIGA.
Glare reduction is another outstanding feature here. Glare isn’t a massive issue when you’re playing indoors, but it gets annoying fast when you play out in the sunlight. The Cornilleau finish takes the glare right down to a minimum. It’s something you think will be a small, extra feature, but which turns out to be a game-changer.
As with the STIGA, the Cornilleau is completely weatherproof. You don’t need a cover, and the surface is as rugged as you could wish for.
This thing is built entirely in France. Unlike cheap Chinese models like the STIGA which have some quality control issues and use cheap materials, this is premium in every respect. It has a stronger steel frame, better fit and finish, and an outstanding 10-year warranty. As far as investments go, this is incredibly solid.
It also does better on driveways and grass, thanks to its bigger wheels. They’ve got a slight tread as well, so it rolls and handles well pretty much anywhere.
Overall, the Cornilleau design is simply more elegant and well thought-out than the STIGA’s. There’s storage for rackets and balls on the sides, and the whole thing folds just as neatly as the STIGA without coming apart! You can still use it in playback mode with one half raised, but you never have to worry about keeping the halves together when you’re playing on the full table.
This one takes more assembly than the STIGA. Having said that, there aren’t going to be any issues with missing components or misaligned holes. You’ll have to put it all together yourself, but it’s all very straightforward and the components are perfectly-made.
The Cornilleau 250S costs twice as much as the STIGA, coming in at around a grand without paddles or any other accessories aside from the net assembly. If you’re on a very tight budget, this one might be out of your reach. If you’re a dedicated/regular player, though, we think it’s a very reasonable price for what you get.
Much as we love the 250S, it isn’t as nice as the 500M. The frame is a bit lighter, the surface is a bit thinner, and there are fewer conveniences. If you’re super ambitious or simply someone who wants the best of the best, go for the 500M. Most folks can stick with the 250S and be just as happy.
Cornilleau 500M
Our ultimate pick for outdoor table tennis, the Cornilleau 500M is the best table we’ve reviewed to date, indoor or outdoor. It’s fully-weatherproof and rock-solid. It also plays better than anything else on the market. It’ll satisfy the most demanding players, and is an absolute joy to play on. Get this if you’re experienced and know you’ll get your money’s worth out of it.
There are lots of areas in which the 500M improves on the 250S, but the key one is the play surface. This is the best surface on the market, as far as we’re concerned. With 7mm resin, it’s slightly thicker than that of the 250S. Beginners and intermediate players might not spot the difference, but experienced players will see tangible improvements within the first few serves.
Spin and bounce on the 500M are as good as any indoor-only tournament table, even the very best. It’s ideal for experienced players who want to master complicated techniques and have perfect repeatability. This one’s also a good upgrade choice for intermediate players who are outgrowing a cheaper table and want something that gives them lots of room to grow.
The play surface is the real star of the show in the durability department, too. When you play outdoors, UV light and rain can easily take a premium table down to the mediocre range in a single season. There are plenty of very expensive tables that lose their playability in a hurry, so it’s especially impressive how this one holds up! It doesn’t fade, crack, peel or degrade in any noticeable way.
As you’d expect at this price, the 500M is pretty much indestructible. We say “expect” because a great many premium tables are actually quite shoddy. Not the 500M!
It has a thicker frame than the 250S, a thicker skirt, and of course the thicker play surface. Everything’s extremely solid and sturdy. We don’t see any reason why you wouldn’t get well over a decade of use out of this one.
It includes lots of extra conveniences that daily players will appreciate. The net retracts into the surface automatically when you fold it up. There’s storage at each side for rackets, ball dispensers on each end, and even a carrying handle. None of these are essential features, but they add to the premium experience.
All the key things we love on the 250S carry over to the 500M:
Completely weatherproof
Leg levelers
The only real downside of buying the 500M is the price. It’s easily a $1500 table, and that’s not including any accessories. This is something only passionate players should be thinking of buying. Most people will be just as happy with the 250S.
Which of these outdoor table tennis tables should you buy?
The STIGA XTR is the ideal outdoor table for a new player, or for someone on a tight budget. It’s simple, serviceable, and affordable. While it might not have the same bounce or spin potential as the Cornilleau’s, it offers decent play to the beginner and intermediate enthusiast. It stands up to weather just fine and feels pretty solid overall. Just don’t expect it to compete with premium models, or to last as long.
If you’re more skilled and can afford to make more of an investment, we recommend the Cornilleau 250S. It’s our recommendation to the average buyer who wants something high-quality without going all-out on something over a grand. It plays extremely well, is guaranteed to last for at least a decade, and can go practically anywhere–from the porch to the lawn.
For the most advanced and experienced players, we recommend the Cornilleau 500M. It’s the most rugged table we’ve ever reviewed, as well as the most fun to play on. It’s rock-solid and completely impervious to weather (just make sure to bring it inside if a tornado rolls through). However, most people don’t need to spend this much. The differences between this and the 250S aren’t going to be apparent to beginners and intermediate players.
You can check current prices for any of the models we recommend by clicking on the links above. That’s also an easy way to see dimensions and get a closer look at the play surfaces.
For more of our expert reviews of all things gameroom, head to our homepage! You can also check out our guide to the best indoor ping pong tables here.
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GDC 2011: Strategy Games - the next move
Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by alexman, Mar 9, 2011.
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Zogar said: ↑
Wow engine is even not that good and starts to be severly outdated. SC2 contents are very limited compared to SC1.
I'm not too sure about this, make a crappy Civ5 which sells a lot, you won't be able to sell Civ6. That's just narrow minded thinking, you're betraying customer's trust.
In response to the first quote. Where do you get that idea?
And second. You may lose half the the fan base. but remember you also GAIN a significant number of people who are new to strategy games.
Me,myself,and,I, Mar 10, 2011
Drawmeus Chieftain
builer680 said: ↑
Prove this statement.
Don't point to Steam saying it's been a #1 played game for a long time. There are lots of sales for very cheap. Prove that Civ V is financially a 'slam dunk' with actual numbers. Even better, numbers that compare profits to expenses. That would really show whether it was a 'slam dunk' or not.
You can't. No sales numbers have been released. Profits/Loss will probably never be released, I've don't recall ever seeing a game do it anyway. Therefore, you can only guess. Perhaps a correct guess, perhaps not, but it's still a guess. So you shouldn't make a statement like this. Even milestone sales numbers haven't been released, which a publisher is typically happy to announce.
Even VGchartz can only guess, and has no direct dl Steam numbers as far as I know, so you can't even use them as a source. Civ V may or may not have sold a lot of games and/or made a lot of money (the 2 aren't necessarily tied, because pricing can fluctuate based on things like weekend discount sales), but the point is that you DO NOT KNOW. So don't admonish people to 'remember' something that you can't prove.
No. You can feel free to not accept my statement, in which case we have nothing left to talk about. Given the data available, I find it vastly more likely that Civ V made good money than not, to the point that thinking they DIDN'T make good money sounds more like wishful belief in a just universe than anything grounded in reality.
Drawmeus, Mar 10, 2011
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Trias said: ↑
Also, the AI in civ4 actually got bonuses that helped it compensate for its lack of skill. (If a stack is big enough, then it doesn't matter so much that it has bad unit composition, and bad attacking order). In civ5, more units does not compensate for bad unit positioning. (In fact, AI unit positioning may even get worse with more units.) Such a compensation should have been included in the form of a combat bonus for the AI as difficulty is increased. (Instead of the current bonus to unit supply and unit production.)
Exactly. This couldn't be said enough.
Becephalus, Mar 10, 2011
builer680 eats too much Taco Bell
Drawmeus said: ↑
Remember that Civ V was financially a slam dunk.
That's what I thought.
Yes, it's a toilet.
builer680, Mar 10, 2011
Smote Chieftain
I can easily see that it is not a great AI that attracts players to games like Civ. Its the flash, and the sense of building your own empire with your own style, and making interesting decisions with tons of options. This is what consumers look for, not a "perfect AI."
In fact, people frequently dislike good AIs. Many gamers want to play games as an easy escape from life, and want to win, with enough difficulty that they feel a sense of accomplishment. If a good AI beats 90% of players, people will not like the game, because it has too high of a learning curve, and they need to look up strategies and such.
There are really just two options for making a perfect game.
1. Completely different AIs, based on difficulty, with far more programming and skill being given to higher difficulty AIs. This would perhaps require a 10 man AI team, with a 3 month tournament deciding the top AI. I find tournaments provide participants with enough motivation to work their asses off. Solutions could be integrated at the end, to get even better. Another option would be a large-scale public AI programming tournament with cash prizes or something. A university tried one of these for Starcraft, with pretty good results. This is necessary to create top-level AI.
2. A great multiplayer experience. This is the option where businesses say "Creating an AI to challenge skilled and experienced players is too hard." The alternative, is simply the beautiful option of letting those great players play each other. However, the business must make the game balanced enough so that players feel that they can innovate their strategies in new directions, or else they will lose interest. They also must make the multiplayer work , which Civ has had difficulty doing, though I have recently had good results in my online games.
In order to create balance, the only real option is to let dedicated players play-test the game and nerf dominant strategies and buff strategies that are weaker than intended. The goal is to create as many good and distinct strategies as possible, with no single or couple strategies being universally dominant.
Starcraft 2 did a good job with this, by having professional Starcraft 1 players dedicated to finding every exploit and winning strategy, and getting it all equalized.
It takes a lot of work to create a game with lasting appeal. For challenging play after learning all the rules and experiencing many strategies, the options are:
Great AI (hard!)
Competition between players
Smote, Mar 10, 2011
Calouste Chieftain
Well, Civ 5 not only has bad AI, but is full of bugs and has an awful game engine. You would think that the game would be faster than Civ1, since computer power improved by 1000x, but it's in fact worse than ever.
Apparently, they didn't have enough money to create a decent code for calculating worker movements (which Shafer probably thinks is the same as AI level), and the difference between the graphics engine and AI computation is not clear, we don't know which of the two make the game so laggy (probably both).
I'm also not buying any argument 'people want shiny things the most, screw the rest'. You just need to see which game company is the most successful atm : Blizzard. Wow and SC2 are no way the most beautiful games, they are just finished games with impeccable mechanics, very few bugs, and challenging content.
Wow engine is even not that good and starts to be severly outdated. SC2 contents are very limited compared to SC1. True, Wow is becoming more and more 'add new buggy and unbalanced features', and I hope they won't follow this line, but they are great games for the moment (as diablo 3 will be). The only great fail of Blizzard is battlenet 2.0, where they wanted to restrict players too much (communism did you say ?).
And I would conclude that people play strategy games to meet strategy challenges, not to watch new shiny graphics, or they would play Sims 3.
You can't really compare anything Blizzard does to other game studios (except maybe Valve). WoW has a revenue of around $100 million/month in subscriptions, that's probably Firaxis budget for a whole decade. With that kind of money, and no pressure from external investors, you can craft games to perfection.
Calouste, Mar 10, 2011
MadmanAtW Knight
Smote said: ↑
You are unfortunately combining several meanings for "good" AI. People want good AI in that they want it to be well crafted and do what it is meant to do correctly. People want its _competitiveness_ to be limited. People want an AI that knows the rules of the game, that doesn't shoot its own teammates in the back, that allows the governor AI to make good suggestions about what to do with your city if you ask, that doesn't pathfind off cliffs, etc, to mix genres a bit.
I don't want my AI to be so "good" that it beats me every time I play without sweat unless I'm on Deity level; but I do want the AI to be high quality enough that I'm not going "wait, you _do_ know the rules of the game, right?"
MadmanAtW, Mar 10, 2011
Zogar Chieftain
Me said: ↑
About what ? WoW engine doesn't support crossfire for instance, and I was speaking about new contents of SC2 compared to old one.
Maybe. Still a bugged game with poor engine is not prone to attract so many players. The only good positive thing for Firaxis is that there's not any competition in their field.
Calouste said: ↑
Sure they don't have the same budget. But you don't need a gigantic budget to make a fluid engine and few bugs, it has been proven again and again. Well for bugs it takes time, so money, yes, even if good coding make the possibility of bugs fewer and easier to fix.
Worker management is most relevant anyways, I don't know what they were thinking, but that's plain bad coding from the start. Any decent coder wouldn't have made the game recalculate every possibility for every worker, that's just horrible from an algorithm point of view, not even speaking of the 'line of sight bug'.
Zogar, Mar 11, 2011
bruntfca Chieftain
Supr49er said: ↑
He tries to defend his statement in a post, blaming it on the company:
"To clarify... I didn't disagree with Tom, and it's not that I don't want to see better AI in strategy games. It's just that as long as a company's goal is to make the most money possible, it's very rarely financially sound to pour a LOT of time or money into AI. If I had all the cash in the world and was making games only for fun it would be one of the biggest areas I'd focus on - but it wouldn't be because I thought I'd sell more copies that way."
The guy shows what an idiot he is, and a poor businessman at that. So he kills the franchise and alienates his core audience in one fell swoop. Why bother buying Civ 6 if all the Dev time's gonna be spent in yet more "fractal mountains" or other crap.
There's nothing wrong in looking for more sales, but alienating you core audience is dumb.
The AI is not only poor, it has no idea how to play it's own rules, it's therefore even hard to put the title "game" on Civ5.
bruntfca, Mar 11, 2011
Are you sure? Remember that Civ V was financially a slam dunk.
Honestly? Shafer is right, in the context he's talking about. Given finite resources and the mandate to make as much money as possible, a strong AI is a waste of money.
Given the mandate to make the best game possible for relatively hardcore players (say, the kind of players who end up on a website talking about the game), it is definitely NOT a waste of money. But, well, we see how important it is financially... Civ V was a financial success.
Basic sales 101, you can only sell a crap product once. Let's see how well Civ 6 sells, if it ever gets made even.
As for making a decent AI costing 10 times more as somone above posted thats utter BS. It's plain to see looking at the game that Firaxis programmers are just not that good. Many games based on Hexes and 1UPT have been developed.
Algorithms to deal with the traveling salesman problem have been around for a long time, as have many min/max decision tree algorithms. On top of this a whole new way of doing AI but using object orientated techniques, by placing AI decisions *inside* the units. This avoids totally the issue of computational intractability of various "top down" algorithmic approaches.
This technique has been used to provide emergent AI for 1000s of units in games like "AI Wars". Brad over at star dock also used this technique combined with multi threading for the 100s of ships in Gal CIv.
I know dozens of decent programmers still in University who could put together a decent AI, and would be happy to work for even $50,000!
As for the lead designer, coming from the "Mod community", does he have any formal training in Computer Science at all? Can he even write a line of C++ code or assembly?, or does he rely on slow bloated script engines, which make the Civ5 game the bloated,slow POS it is?
Aeronomer Chieftain
This is all complete crap. I know us "haters" and "flamers" are no longer welcome here, but the release of the new patch caused me to crawl out from under my rock.
The same people who have been defending Civ 5 are now defending this reprehensible philosophy.
Civ 5 sucks as a game. It's even worse than Civ 3. I pre-ordered this game based on my past experience. I will probably never play this game again and I am going to be VERY reluctant to spend my hard-earned cash on a Firaxis title in the future. It's obvious that the decision to release this broken piece of crap was made by some corporate bonehead and not by someone interested in continuing the Civ legacy.
So they have lost my "loyalty". Screw me once, shame on me...etc. Maybe they've attracted enough "new" players to make up for the people like me that they've lost, but how "loyal" are these noobs going to be?
I feel abused and ripped off. I will adjust my expectations and behavior accordingly in the future. What are the financial ramifications of that?
Aeronomer, Mar 11, 2011
Brian Shanahan Permanoob
The house that I shaped in my heart
And that is a testament to Civ 4 not 5. People bought 5 because of two things, 4 was great, and the hype surrounding 5 coming from all angles, not because of any inherent qualities in the game. The real test of 5's financial prowess is a) sustained sales (which we don't have, but I'm willing to bet aren't as good as 4's by a long shot), b) expansion/GOTY/complete version sales in a couple of years and c) Civ 6 sales. So we won't see the true financial effect on the company for a while yet.
Why? Frankly game companies are going down the route of Hollywood, for graphics think CGI, for "appealing to casuals" think stupid plot lines, and for Ai think writing. Now like films all the money is going into the shiny graphics to the complete detriment of the overall quality of the game (or film). And signs are beyond that like the film industry now thinking in terms of opening weekends for both cinema and DVD releases, the games industry is increasingly going for the early sales and DLC routes. They do not think long term, either with the game or possible sequels, only looking at the bottom line for the next quarterly report where they'll get their fat bonuses, even if their strategies have killed the company long term.
I honestly think that there will be a big contraction in the gaming industry soon unless there is a huge rethink in the way companies think about what they're doing, i.e. go for quality over shiny.
Again Civ 5 was a success mostly because of the (deserved) reputation of 4, and had nothing to do with it's own merits (and I'd be saying this even if the game were good), which may I remind you was a game designed far more with the hardcore gamer in mind.
Though frankly I don't get this hard-core/casual gamer dichotomy (except for the very young and old maybe). Most people if given a good game which is well balanced and propmts them to keep going will keep playing the game no matter whether it is a side scroller as simple in ideas as Super Mario or as complicated and dense as a spreadsheet game like Football Manager. They will not care about the hard-core/casual tags, just like I didn't when I picked up Civ 3 for the first time, they will just want to play the game to get slightly better (every time) and for their own enjoyment.
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Brian Shanahan, Mar 11, 2011
bruntfca said: ↑
Basic sales 101, you can only sell a crap product once. WRONG! Let's see how well Civ 6 sells, if it ever gets made even.
As for making a decent AI costing 10 times more as somone above posted thats utter BS. It's plain to see looking at the game that Firaxis programmers are just not that good. Many games based on Hexes and 1UPT have been developed. And they ALL have crap AI!
Algorithms to deal with the traveling salesman problem have been around for a long time, as have many min/max decision tree algorithms. AND they are poor or computationally very intesiveOn top of this a whole new way of doing AI but using object orientated techniques, by placing AI decisions *inside* the units. This avoids totally the issue of computational intractability of various "top down" algorithmic approaches.
This technique has been used to provide emergent AI for 1000s of units in games like "AI Wars". Brad over at star dock also used this technique combined with multi threading for the 100s of ships in Gal CIv. The AI Wars and GALciv AIs are not really any better, the Galciv AI is easily just as horrible
I know dozens of decent programmers still in University who could put together a decent AI, and would be happy to work for even $50,000! I bet...
As for the lead designer, coming from the "Mod community", does he have any formal training in Computer Science at all? Can he even write a line of C++ code or assembly?, or does he rely on slow bloated script engines, which make the Civ5 game the bloated,slow POS it is? All software grows to the resources availible to run it
Almost everything said in this post is wrong. If you and you friends can really make some AI significantly better than the Civ AI, do so and you WILL be able to sell it. But I am sure once you got down to implementing it, it would be 100 times harder than you think.
I helped make an AI for a game people thought was awesome. All it did was maximize kills. It was super aggressive. Because of this it was very easy to beat once figured out what it was doing, and against experienced players it always needed a huge advantage in material to win. Hell against the best players it couldn't win regardless of how much of an advantage you gave it.
Becephalus said: ↑
I'm not sure if it's worth replying to your post, but here goes...
"And they ALL have crap AI!"
Is "crap AI" a technical term?, Nice value judgment that you just pulled out of your hat. Care to actually qualify your statement?
"Poor and computationally intensive"? Thats why you use algorithms to cut down on the search space as I said or is reading comprehension not one of your strong points? I never saw a computer using an algorithm to cut down search space beat a human at chess and other games....no wait.
"The AI Wars and Galciv AI are not really any better". I don't see the forums of those games full of posts about how totally lame the AI is. Face it the AI in Civ5 does not even appear to know how to play it's own game. Galciv may "not be any better" as you say, but a hell of a lot of people think otherwise.
"All software grows to the resources available to run it". And your point is? You end your comments with a meaningless tautology.
XeroK00L Chieftain
I don't need any of the pretty graphics crap! I play CIV5 in tactical mode and tactical mode only. Those 3D graphics only serve to distract me. I don't care if the game looks like CIV1. For a strategy game the focus should be put into gameplay and AI, period!
To me a Diety mode should mean a really, really clever AI playing on the same ground as me, not a really, really dumb AI playing with ridiculous handicap settings. Look at how chess games are implemented--higher difficulty means the AI thinks harder and deeper, not that it gets two queens!
My suggestion to them if they can't afford spending time in developing a good AI would be to at least make finding online opponents easier, and make play-by-email an option. For a game that can take days or even weeks to finish, play-by-email is a must! Or even better yet, allow game states to be saved on a central server so that people can drop off and pick up where they leave off with ease. Take a look at how EA implements Scrabble on Facebook. It's the best way to implement a multiplayer turn-based strategy game I've ever seen.
XeroK00L, Mar 11, 2011
Designers at game studios don't write code, they write feature specs.
They couldn't code that in Civ4 either (trade route recalculations).
Is "crap AI" a technical term?, Nice value judgment that you just pulled out of your hat. Care to actually qualify your statement? Ok to be technical. I have NEVER seen a 1upt AI, a hexed based AI, or for that matter an RTS AI that didn't need to rely on set scenario AND massive handicaps to be remotely competitive. Never once. Sure for Chess or checkers and super simple games, but even go is beyond an AI's ability. I have played Gal Civ a ton (which people think has a decent AI), I have helped develop a few games, and have worked on AI improvement mods. The complaints I see about civ5 AI are the exact same complaints you see about other games AIs. It is of similar quality. The game as a whole is just worse and it has a rabid fan base so people are less tolerant of the crap AI.
"Poor and computationally intensive"? Thats why you use algorithms to cut down on the search space as I said or is reading comprehension not one of your strong points? I never saw a computer using an algorithm to cut down search space beat a human at chess and other games....no wait. "I am sorry Firaxis isn't perfect for you. It must be nice living and working in a world where everyone has time to devote cutting edge solutions to every problem in every product they design. Back here in the real world people make do, there are budgets, there are deadlines.
"The AI Wars and Galciv AI are not really any better". I don't see the forums of those games full of posts about how totally lame the AI is. Face it the AI in Civ5 does not even appear to know how to play it's own game. Galciv may "not be any better" as you say, but a hell of a lot of people think otherwise. AI Wars had no fan base, so no expectations, it also uses MASSIVE AI handicaps, so it is not really comparable. I played a lot of GalCiv II. The AI is ok, but it is not really that different from the Civ 5 AI and once again uses massive handicaps. At even settings you can beat it making terrible terrible decisions. For instance the AI never even learned how to use the planetary focus mechanism, even after what 2 expansions? (I cannot remember if they fixed that in the last one). Yet that mechanism is at the core of good play. And the AI doesn't even know about it! It would be like if the Civ 5 AI didn't know about changing its cities focus. There were all sorts of things the AI didn't even attempt in GalCiv.
"All software grows to the resources available to run it". And your point is? You end your comments with a meaningless tautology. Its not meaningless, you were whining about the software being fat. The fact that almost all software is fat because humans are lazy is an important point when considering that claim. You criticize Civ 5 for making the same mistakes many AAA titles make. CA/Sega releases games with horrible AI and 5 minute turn waits all the time. What were you expecting? People love paradox games including me, but most of their games are barely playable for the first year after you know a little bit about them.
Don't get me wrong I see Civ 5 as a hastily released and somewhat incomplete failure, but a ton of the criticism of it is misplaced and just nitpicking because people are disappointed the game isn't more fun.
The number of really good games released each year is only a half dozen. SO lets all not pretend we are shocked when Civ 5 isn't on that list. Civ 3 certainly wasn't as released either. Hell I bought a "Play the world" expansion for that game that didn't have functioning multiplayer. You think people are mad now?
People on this forum generally love SMAC, and the AI in that game was way worse than the AI in civ 5.
alexman Chieftain
Maryland, USA
While this is true for many studios, it is not true at Firaxis.
alexman, Mar 11, 2011
MAntoninus Chieftain
Think outside the box.
Go after Grad Students in AI. Lure one or two in to do their doctoral thesis with Firaxis and model all this.
Great experience, great dev value, good branding in the thesis and ample public testing of the ideas...
That's what I'd do.
MAntoninus, Mar 11, 2011
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Star Control: September 2015 update
September 3, 2015 11:25:00 PM from Star Control Forums
The team is now fully staffed with the exception of bringing on one additional animator. It is now, the largest game project currently underway at Stardock across all studios in terms of monthly budget.
For those of you who remember the development of the original Star Control series, you may recall that Paul and Fred worked very closely with fan (SC2 mainly). In fact, thanks to Paul and Fred we've been able to team up Riku who did most of the best known tracks for Star Control 2 back in 1992 and he's in charge of the new sound track.
Now, that said, we have a number of challenges that we need help with. I'll list them below.
Challenge #1: IS Star Control Star Control without the Spathi?
The new Star Control is a prequel. It takes place before the events of the original series.
And for those who are deeply into the Star Control lore, our long-term plan is to make the Star Control universe a multiverse. The Famous battles of the Ur-Quan conflict (part of which is told in Star Control 1 and Star Control 2) take place in one universe. By contrast, Star Control 3 takes place in a separate universe.
As mentioned, Paul and Fred are the ones who wrote the Ur-Quan conflict lore that manifests partly in the first two Star Control games. Today, Paul and Fred, the founders of Toys for Bob, work at Activision which precludes them from being able to work on the new Star Control. However, since Star Control is a multiverse, we can, with patience, hopefully wait for the day for a continuation of the Ur-Quan story.
That said, regardless the new Star Control won't deal with the aliens from the Ur-Quan stories for multiple reasons. First, in the Ur-Quan lore, the humans join the Alliance of Free Stars in 2116, 4 years after the humans are contacted by the Chenjesu and our story takes place in 2086. Second, because we don't want to interfere with Paul and Fred's story, we want to wait until they're free to work on their story again to continue it.
From Stardock's point of view, Paul and Fred own the Ur-Quan lore and in fact, this lore goes well beyond what was seen in Star Control 1 and 2. So while Stardock owns the Star Control universe, we don't make any claim on their lore. Similarly, post-release if others create their own lore for their own universes, Stardock won't be making any claims on that lore either (i.e. no sneaky EULA that tries to lay claim to any lore/assets made that uses the new Star Control engine).
When you visit www.starcontrol.com later this Fall, you will absolutely see both classic and new aliens together since we support both the new Star Control and the original trilogy. We plan to provide a fairly elaborate series of pages to support Paul and Fred's backstory so that it's kept alive for the day when they can return to the Ur-Quan story.
Challenge #2: What IS Star Control?
While game designs are always unique, I'd like to propose that we look at what we are working on together collective as a specific genre (like 4X strategy).
In Star Control's case: It's an action adventure game. Specifically, an action adventure game in which you play as the Earthlings, go out into the galaxy and meet aliens, go on quests, explore planets, and have space battles.
That is what we're in the process of creating.
Challenge #3: Defining some core values
Each person will have their own vision of what they think a new Star Control must contain. Like I said above, SOME people will absolutely say that Star Control is about the Ur-Quan and the Spathi and so forth.
For me, it's a bit more general. I want to interact with really interesting aliens that are well written, funny, charming and try out lots of cool ships, design my own custom ship, etc. That's why we brought on comedy writers early on and have put a lot of budget behind making sure that we're prepared to record 11 hours of voice acting that will be handle through our engine's lips syncing tech (our engine is made by the some guys who led Civilization V's engineering PLUS additional veterans from around the industry).
Challenge #4: Satisfying the super fans
So how are we going to make the hard core fans happy?
Broadly speaking (without giving too much away) we plan to provide fairly extravagant mod tools. Tools well beyond what has ever been made outside of say Spore.
If you've read "Ready Player One" then you have a pretty good idea of the authoring level we are going for. We'll be talking a lot more about this as we progress.
The main point is that our goal is to make the Star Control universe all-encompassing. Infinite continuities with OUR included initial campaign just one of an endless number that the community can provide. If you've seen what the Ur-Quan masters team have done, imagine if they had millions of dollars in engineering hours designated to providing tools and support to ensure that there's a never ending stream of Star Control content.
Anyway, that's where we are now.
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Reply #1 September 4, 2015 12:19:11 AM
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Replace Spathi with a race that resembles the Spathi traits and make it recognizable. It doesn't have to look or called Spathi of course.
It's an action adventure game with significant RPG elements since we live in a role-playing generation now and there's no escaping from it.
Atmosphere of SC2, extremely customize-able Vindicator, space Jesus role. Sense of accomplishment through out the game.
Only care for original story. Make it last, please. 50+ hours of gameplay (completionist level) realistic?
fargetv
Reply #2 September 4, 2015 3:57:17 AM
I am really fond of Star Control II, and my opinion is:
Star Control II was a result of creative freedom and great people. When making a new Star Control, I hope you will let yourself be creative and follow your inspirations. Yes, this game will be based on an established concept, but I sincerely hope that you will make use of the parts of the concept that you feel inspired to use. Don't shoehorn in stuff that you feel you "have to have" to satisfy fans - that will not turn out well.
Try to capture some of the same atmosphere as Star Control II, but do as you please in general.
wbino49
from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums
Couldn't you just do a rerelease of Starcontrol (since most people under forty will have no idea what that is) in HD with extra levels?
Since the originals that you own would be able to include the original aliens..
Reply #4 September 4, 2015 12:08:22 PM
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Quoting wbino49,
I suspect people will use the tools we make to do just that. But we won't be doing that.
SteelVelocity
Challenge 1 - You know, it's been such a long time since I've played Star Control, I don't really have that much attachment to the original races. A lot of them were kind of corny, to be honest. I think we'd all be better off with more believable (but still as fun) races in the game.
Challenge 2 - I would HIGHLY recommend spending a couple hours playing Escape Velocity to get a feel for combat and exploration concepts. I can't tell you how awesome that game was.
Challenge 3 - Again, make the game yours. Don't let yourself get trapped by lore or past concepts. If you're going to make a proper reboot, then do it your way. One of Steve Jobs last words of advice for Tim Cook was to not ask himself what he (Steve) would do when he's in trouble, but to run Apple the best way he saw fit.
Challenge 4 - Once again, I would refer you to Escape Velocity. Ambrosia Software released a plug-in tool that allowed fans to essentially remake the game. In fact, EV Nova (the third game developed) was originally a plug-in. If you're going to do the plug-in route, I would like to see a tool maker kit that allows us to do voice acting, character design, galaxy maker (planets and star systems), sounds, ship designs, music, and anything and everything else your engine can handle. People are still making plug-ins for EV, 14 years after it's release. Let's aim for that.
Reply #6 September 4, 2015 2:44:01 PM
^ What do you mean by "more believable"? SC2 was never believable and that was the part of its charm. You can make it serious like Mass Effect, but then will it be Star Control?...
Steve Jobs also quoted Picasso's infamous quote and I kinda agree with it. There's no reason to reinvent the wheel. If you start "fixing" what's already working you're bound to break it.
I'd like devs to answer a simple question: "Why 'Star Control' name for essentially completely new content?" Marketing reason?
cuorebrave
I'd like to add my 2 cents.
Challenge #1: I highly doubt TRUE Star Control II fans will be that upset about the absence of all their favorite races from the first "trilogy". The reason actually goes straight down to the core of what made us all love Star Control II in the first place: It was about discovery. Making the unknown known. Every few systems you jumped to, you would find something incredible, new, unique and mind-blowing that would expand your growing knowledge of the universe. Increase your sphere of knowledge and understand of what's "out there"... well, nothing against a TRUE SEQUEL to Star Control II, but... how would you feel if this new game explored the well-known universe? Filled with aliens you already knew about? The Ilwrath we know to be evil, the Umgah we know to be mischievous, the Pkunk enlightened. To me, that would lose so much of the magic. Sure, it's fun to come across old friends, it's a good feeling! But the most enthralling part of SCII could very well be lost if you mainly encounter species we all already know so much about. They were brilliant, hilarious and more unique than any space lore I've ever come across, but NOW they are KNOWN. Where's the mind-blowing part in that?
So really, I'd treat it more like, I don't know... Mass Effect 4 that's coming out? Shepard and company were central to the first 3 games. All about the Reapers, etc. That part of the story is DONE. Finished. They supposedly won't appear anymore, ever again. But N7 will be part of the 4th game, and while some alien races will be back, there will be new baddies, new conflicts and all new characters. Star Control could be the same.
Same goes with my other favorite science fiction universe - Warhammer 40k and the Segmentum layout they have. Entirely different stories come out of the Segmentum Obscurus than the Segmentum Solar or Segmentum Pacificus. Some deal with Tyrranid, others Chaos, others Orks are the big problem... it's different across the universe. And ours is a huge universe - SCII's system count didn't cover 1/1,000,000,000,000th of the galaxy, much less the other galaxies out there. If the Starmap in SCII was a box like this:
Why not shift the view of the galaxy 2 feet to the right, like this (where the X is):
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| || X |
There could even be a small line of overlap, so that if you're following, would contain some of the UTWIG and DRUUGE territory!! Would be cool to find some Easter Eggs on the planets that overlapped with the new starmap! Besides, the Urquan were defeated in the end of SCII, the threat is over, the galaxy united (or at least there's no one strong enough to overthrow the Alliance of Free Stars)... it's probably pretty boring for awhile, allowing the humans to colonize distant planets. Start the story there.
ORRRRR, if you're really bold!!! Maybe the Kohr-Ah WON their cleansing war against all sentient life in that part of the galaxy, and everyone is dead, except a precursor ship full of humans that filled up on fuel and got as far, far, far away as possible. Surely you have the rights to the HUMANS Anyway, there's my response to Challenge #1... I'll write more later when I have more time. Awesome, so far Brad!
Chustler
I have to admit that the complete absence of original races is a disappointing thing for me. It's certainly not a deal breaker, and I love the idea of discovering fun new races, but I would have loved to see some the old races in there too. I'm still with you guys 100% and look forward to what you all bring to the table!
OktoberStorm
You... Don't own the aliens or the lore IP, but you want to make a sequel?
In this new universe the events of SC1 and 2 will never have happened, and the Spathi and Ur-Quan never existed. You will release mod tools so that people can make their own content and change the game.
Maybe it's a good idea to have some dignity and drop the name. I'm sure it will be a great game, but without the lore it's not Star Control anymore, and you all know that.
Anyways, I'm out. I'm too easily embarrassed to be watching this unfold.
jarjarabrams
Reply #10 September 5, 2015 3:29:37 PM
I like that "Star Control" means something beyond just one story -- that it defines a genre.
Interesting that some really want a new Star Control developer to expand the original continuity and are "embarrassed" by anything else. We already had an attempt at that; some might say it was an embarrassment.
One day Paul and Fred will return and finish their story the right way. It seems like Stardock has envisioned this and is treating the older games and lore with a lot of respect.
I'm pleasantly optimistic for a "spiritual successor."
Quoting OktoberStorm,
See: case in point.
They would rather there be no new Star Control game at all than a Star Control game without the Spathi. He won't be alone in feeling that way.
The relationship between the Ur-Quan and the new continuity is that something happened during the Precursor era that changed history.
Quoting Frogboy,
reply 11
Hm... Yeah, some people will probably feel that way. But I just think you have to make new and compelling races, and do it as well as possible. Star Control is obviously (all) about the writing, and writing great characters and races and combining that with good gameplay will make a really good game.
Star Control II is 23 years old, and it is not like a superhero franchise where they pump out a movie every other year, and the huge fanbase would be angry if they dropped this or that character. The fanbase of Star Control II is realatively small, and the fans from way back when will hopefully appreciate a new creative effort. Those that don't - well... you cannot please everyone. You will hopefully find many new customers.
I understand your worries, but what other options do you have than make as good a game as possible with the rights that you have?
KzintiPatriarch
Reply #14 September 7, 2015 1:06:41 AM
I'm a fan of SC2 in particular, and while I'd prefer to see the original alien races be used, if that is not possible, I'll still be very interested to see what Stardock comes up with. It's certainly better than not trying at all. Ideas such as cuorebrave had are a good place to start. I will be swaiting the game eagerly.
Just to give a little bit of a background, I would consider myself a "super fan" of Star Control II. I have played through that game countless of times. I usually play through once a year. I love it that much.
Saying that, here's my two cents:
No...its not Star Control...at least, not Star Control CLASSIC. I'm not too worried about this being the end of Star Control CLASSIC. I'd much rather see a new Star Control with a new storyline, etc than no new Star Control at all. I'd love to see what new blood will do with the game! Maybe just try to reference the old aliens in a way during the new storyline?
Yeah, I can agree with this. If licensing issues (blah!) are that bad, then there's no real choice other than defining what Star Control is for your company. Just know you HAVE YOUR WORK CUT OUT to satisfy #4!!! (ie, DON'T SCREW THIS UP)
Modding tools sound absolutely fantastic! That could really open up the game to those who would help carry on the legacy of Star Control CLASSIC if it doesn't fit the bill of your vision.
However, since I consider myself a Super Fan, trying to do another Star Control CLASSIC might fail anyways in so many different aspects. Like I said, I'd love to see what some new creative blood can do with a "New" Star Control. Just like Star Control II was very different than StarFlight. VERY similar games...VERY different story lines, races, etc.
DO THE BEST YOU CAN DO...UNDERSTAND THE LEGACY THAT THIS IS. You have a great responsibility to create a new game WORTHY of the title Star Control. New storylines, New races, new jokes, new places to visit, new lore, new addiction of playing a game over and over.
groqstrong87
Reply #16 September 7, 2015 11:31:19 AM
What I would love to see in the next Star Control
A) Original new characters with storyline
Blend some old mechanics with new, like the exploration of the Star Map, Spheres of Control, the star map along the size of Elite Dangerous, the Mother ship on a grander scale, bring back RAINBOW PLANETS!!!
C) Not sure how I would feel about an arcade style combat system now, not against it but has to be done really well. Played another game recently that was from Star Control's era, the new Kings Quest game. It was the same game from the 80's 90's just with updated graphics I felt it fell flat, could have done so much more.
However since this is stardock, I believe you have plenty of expertise in combat systems for these types of games.
D) Ships more Ships!
Cyclone_Jack
Quoting ,
quoting post
No, of course not. Why would it be? If you take away everything that makes an IP what it is, is it still that IP? Even if you make a game that is 100% identical to Star Control in every way except the lore, then all you have is a clone that isn't Star Control. I think this is what OktoberStorm was getting at. That's not to say you can't make a great game, its just that no matter what you try and do, you can't have Star Control without Star Control. You might as well call it something else and refer to is as a spiritual prequel of sorts. Yes its semantics, but you'll piss off far fewer people this way.
It is a sci-fi epic focusing on Humans, Ur-Quan, Spathis, Vux, Pkunk, Orz and a dozen other space-faring races of the galaxy, which was once occupied by an ancient race referred to as the Precursors, which has a high focus on exploration, and interaction with the various alien species.
I don't see this happening. Personally, I am disappointed while still on the fence. I have a number of friends that have played through SC and SC2 numerous times, and most of them see to be none to happy about this. Here are their words (censored via Edit, apologies if it ruffled some feathers):
"Well, so much for that."
"Definitely a ‘wait and see’ attitude for me here."
"I'm horribly disappointed now. I don't even know where to begin.
I don't even know who the hell would have ever inked a deal to only use the name, not the content pieces of this IP. What a FUBAR situation.
Might as well just create a new adventure space game with all the updates you wanted, new story, new races, etc, call it Space Game X or whatever, and launch it. Make your own game now."
"Nailed it. Those aren't challenges. Those are failures."
Oh my goodness, Cyclone_Jack. What a rude person you are.
This just seems so closed-minded. Would you really be so incredibly happy "exploring" an already-known galaxy, and "discovering" the same aliens you already know everything about already?? How does that capture the spirit of what made Star Control II so incredible? Maybe ask your friends that, because I think they'll respond in a different way.
I already know Delta Gorno was the home to the Shofixti before they blew it up to take a chunk out of the Urquan. I already know they're honor-bound and trigger-happy. I already know their ships self-destruct when you're nearby. I already know they breed like rabbits. I know their story about how their civilization was inextricably intertwined with the Yehat as their little battle-brothers. I already know they were almost extinct. I already know the Yehat would only come to your side when you could PROVE the Shofixti were not extincted. You really want to drop by Delta Gorno again, and re-meet the same Shofixti that were there last time around?
I'll pass on that, @Cyclone_Jack. That's not true exploration - that's the Cheers-exploration, Where Everybody Knows Your Name. I'll pass because I want to go to Delta Somewhere-Else this time around, and meet someone new, with a whole host of new problems, cultural traditions/values, and quirks. And I want to go in BLIND, because that's what humans will be doing if we ever actually DO reach other stars. Why revisit something familiar when there's a bazillion stars out there to look?
Visiting the same aliens a second time around would be doing just that - visiting the same places again. Have a little faith in the minds at Stardock that can take the TEMPLATE of what made SCII to amazing, and give us a NEW chapter, with NEW faces, NEW races and NEW things to discover.
jwdR1
It might be cliche' but...
Start the game with a convoy of colony ships with a small military escort heading out to colonize a new system. Along the way, they encounter a spacial anomaly that transports the entire convoy to another part of the universe. Several ships are critically damaged and they are forced to land on a barely habitable planet. Contact is lost with the current region of space and the players task becomes 4X'ing their way to an empire in this new region of space.
Now you're free to create a whole new set of races to meet in a new region of space and hopefully not step on any toes.
Old races (incl. Spathi) are still 'in the game', just no longer accessible from this region of space. Should you ever solve the IP issues and get permission to use the old races, the goal of a future expansion could be to find your way home. Then you can worry about who's toes you step on.
Maybe it's been considered and rejected but, just a thought.
Quoting fargetv,
Apologies. I meant no disrespect, only to share the feedback of others I know (I'll censor the post). A have a few friends that are more than passionate about the SC games, some of which have completed them dozens of times.
Quoting cuorebrave,
Honestly, if well written, yes, I would enjoy that. To be one of the first captains going and and making contact with these races before the war with the Ur-Quan could be quite fun. But I do get your point.
Personally, I wouldn't mind a bunch of new faces, but not at the complete removal of the old (sadly, this is not an option). Being a prequel of sorts allows for many interesting encounters, but how far back does one go to where these other races do not yet exist? And if we go that far back, then surely humans do not exist either. Does Stardock re-write the universe, replacing all of the faces with something new? At that point, why call it Star Control? I think this is the catch-22 that Stardock is in. Don't get me wrong, I love the SC games, and I have enjoyed other games that are similar, such as Mass Effect (I always get a SC vibe from the 1st ME game), and I'm sure I'll enjoy other games that is similarly designed.
All that said, if they can somehow manage to pull of a believable alteration in which the player is no longer anywhere near the region of space from the 1st two game, and thus not bound to the same races that everyone knows and loves (and doesn't turn into the game that must not be named), then I think they could pull something off. The key, IMO, is to no longer be in that quadrant. The real killer is that *none* of the lore can be used. That eliminates running into a Melnorme Trader in the distant reaches of space, getting sucked into Quasi-space by and inquisitive Arilou-Lalee'lay, or to feel the outstretched hand of the Orz. There can be absolutely nothing that ties this game to the predecessors, and that's what really hurts.
EDIT: To put it another way, how would fans have reacted if GalCiv III had all new races? Would it still be GalCiv?
Reply #22 September 8, 2015 10:35:04 PM
It matters a lot to us that fans of the classic Star Control series are part of the new Star Control too. It's one of the reasons we have stayed in contact with Paul and Fred.
However, at the same time, the Star Control reboot is happening.
If the last GalCiv shipped a quarter century ago and someone was creating a new GalCiv game (i.e. a 4X civilization in space style game) in which the makers were going out of their way to also make it a spiritual successor AND there was also no other game like it on the horizon, then heck yea
Wintercross
To me the main point of Star Control was the exploration. meeting strange aliens and allying with them or blowing them into space dust.
I honestly hated the arcade style combat myself, it felt counter to the feel of everything else. I honestly hope you guys rework the combat level to some extent, as a 1 vs 1 duel with asteroids style movement just was not fun to me.
If I'm building a united species fleet I'd like to be able to actually use that fleet as a fleet.
I'm fine with none of the original races being present, a new story and new aliens to discover will be exciting imo.
Vaelzad
Not to put too fine a point on it, but the Founders will be the first to know what we are doing on the lore front and be the first to be able to provide direct feedback on the details of how we are handling it, and we are looking forward to hearing it. It is the core of what the Founder program is about, letting people who are passionate about the game have involvement with it.
Being a die hard Star Control fan myself there is a lot more to the IP than just the original races from Star Control. The races in Star Control and Star Control 2 went through their own major evolution during the course of the game. In Star Control 1 there were the Androsynth, in Star Control 2 they were destroyed completely. Let's not forget the Chenjesu and the Mmrnmhrm who then both were evolved into the Chmmr during Star Control 2, ultimately destroying the original races. And how can one forget about the newly introduced and fun loving Pkunk who in their love joined with the Yehat and became one race. The Spathi they withdrew from the galaxy and are hiding in their slave shield. There are many more such examples but with so much alien evolution occurring and backstory being discovered in Star Control 2 in the IP it doesn't make sense to even try to reuse the Star Control 1 & 2 aliens in a pre-quel story. Knowing the detailed outcome of an adventure before even experiencing the journey just ruins the journey itself.
Looking at all these examples one can say a key element of ANY race in the Star Control IP is that they are involved in major race altering events during the course of gameplay. That adventure and experience is one of many key elements to making a Star Control game. We here at Stardock also respect the creative freedoms of others, and I think we can all agree that Ur-Quan storyline should only be advanced by Fred and Paul, and nobody else can tell you what happens with the aliens involved in Star Control 2. The Star Control universe is a very large place and there are many events happening, some of them in parallel. Will your paths never cross with the aliens in Star Control 1 & 2? Never say never because one never knows what the future holds, but your path will not cross with them in the game's story that we are developing right now.
I never played SC2, though I did play SC1 on my Genesis.
I loved the cool spinning star chart ...is that still part of the SC series?
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Michigan wins over No. 14 Purdue 82-70
Posted 8:17 PM, February 25, 2017, by FOX 17 News, Updated at 08:18PM, February 25, 2017
BLOOMINGTON, IN - FEBRUARY 12: Derrick Walton Jr. #10 of the Michigan Wolverines shoots a free throw during the game against the Indiana Hoosiers at Simon Skjodt Assembly Hall on February 12, 2017 in Bloomington, Indiana. (Photo by Michael Hickey/Getty Images)
ANN ARBOR, Mich. (AP) — Moe Wagner scored 22 of his 24 points in the first half, outplaying everyone on Purdue’s vaunted front line and leading Michigan to an 82-70 victory over the 14th-ranked Boilermakers on Saturday.
Derrick Walton added 17 points and 11 rebounds in his final scheduled home game, and the Wolverines (19-10, 9-7 Big Ten) took another big step toward an NCAA Tournament berth. Michigan has won five of six, including victories over Michigan State, Wisconsin and Purdue.
The Boilermakers (23-6, 12-4) had their six-game winning streak snapped and could fall into a tie for first in the Big Ten with Wisconsin if the Badgers win at Michigan State on Sunday.
Caleb Swanigan scored 18 points for Purdue, but the Boilermakers couldn’t take full advantage of their edge in size. The 6-foot-9 Swanigan and 7-foot-2 Isaac Haas combined to outscore Wagner by only two points.
Michigan made seven consecutive shots to take a 33-20 lead on a 3-pointer by Walton. Wagner added a 3 moments later, giving him the same number of points (20) as Purdue’s whole team.
Duncan Robinson’s fadeaway 3-pointer from the right corner gave the Wolverines a 45-30 lead at halftime, and although some foul problems limited Wagner in the second half, Michigan got enough contributions to maintain a comfortable lead.
Xavier Simpson and D.J. Wilson made 3-pointers to put the Wolverines up 63-42. When Purdue cut the lead to 11, Wagner was there for a putback to make it 70-57.
The Boilermakers trailed 73-67 after an 8-0 run late in the second half, but with the shot clock running down, Walton leaned inside of Purdue’s P.J. Thompson to sink a 3-pointer that pushed the lead back to nine with 1:43 to play.
Michigan makes CWS finals with 15-3 win over Texas Tech
Michigan State falls to Texas Tech in NCAA semifinals, 61-51
Vanderbilt wins 2nd national title, beating Michigan 8-2
MSU’s Cassius Winston named AP All-American
Joey Hauser transferring from Marquette to MSU
Sanchez beats old team, leads Nationals over Tigers, 3-1
Flawless Simona Halep beats Serena Williams to win 1st Wimbledon
Michigan State’s Winston staying in school, Ward leaving
Michigan beats Texas Tech 5-3 in its 1st CWS game since 1984
Vanderbilt beats Michigan, 4-1, forces title-deciding Game 3
From barely racing to the top of the points, meet Hudsonville’s Nate Walton
Pistons earn final playoff spot in East with win over Knicks
University of Wisconsin basketball coach’s wife and daughter killed in MI car accident
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Denver Police Department swears in a horse for 1st time in history
Posted 8:18 am, April 24, 2019, by Tribune Media Wire Service, Updated at 08:19AM, April 24, 2019
DENVER – The Denver Police Department is welcoming its newest recruit to the department. He’s 9 years old and has four legs.
Maverick, a mustang, has been with DPD for about two months, training to become part of the Mounted Patrol Unit.
Maverick was born a wild horse in January 2010. He’s spent most of his life on a ranch but has now traded the country for city living.
“He’s a nice horse. He’s well-tempered and well-mannered. He’s a sweetheart,” Maverick’s partner Officer Ron Jensen told KDVR.
Tuesday afternoon, Maverick was officially sworn in as a patrol officer.
“This is the first ever that we’ve done this,” Sgt. Brian Conover said.
In the past, horses just became part of the unit without any celebration, but DPD decided it was time to give their horses the same recognition as other members of the team.
“It’s official. It’s a big moment for somebody to actually tell you that you’re accepted and now you’re in this position and you’re one of this group,” Jensen said.
DPD invited the kids from Sun Valley Youth Center to help during Maverick’s ceremony. They read Maverick’s part during the oath, and each child was appointed as an official junior mounted patrol officer for the day.
Maverick will patrol streets and parks with his partners all over Denver. He will visit schools, work parades and appear at other special events where mounted patrol officers are needed.
“We bridge that gap with the community. We’re very visible so when the public sees us, they flock to us,” Jensen said. “When they see the horses, they want pictures, they want to pet them. So it really opens up the communication between police and the community.”
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Maximum Security’s Preakness status unclear after Kentucky Derby disqualification
Suspect charged in Racine Officer Hetland’s death set to make 1st court appearance
Good Samaritans rescue baby abandoned in California dumpster
‘Anger and despair:’ School shootings’ traumatic effects on police officers understudied
‘A good cop, a good person:’ Friends, family remember fallen Officer Hetland with heartfelt memorial
Denver capturing, killing geese to help feed families in need
Abandoned dog left for dead becomes K-9 for Denver Sheriff Department
War of Will wins Preakness featuring riderless running horse
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With 2016 marking the milestone of my tenth consecutive Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, I went through all my blog posts, Flickr photos, presentations, and other materials to see what stood out. It covers drones, virtual reality, 3D TVs, 3D printing, and much more.
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http://adage.com/article/digitalnext/future-ces-belongs-marketers/296457/
http://www.marketersstudio.com/2007/01/vegas_first_imp.html
I'm laying low today in advance of CES (I'm speaking Wednesday at noon with Digital Hollywood). It's daunting - all the coverage talking about the #s, somewhere between 1.6 and 2 million square feet of exhibit space, 150,000-170,000 attendees, 984 dancing Elvises (okay, the last one I just made up).
Tomorrow, I'm planning to take the monorail down to the convention center (I'm staying at MGM, in a surprisingly modern, sleek room in the West Wing of the hotel), soak in the main show floor, and then duck into PodTech's Bloghaus at the Bellagio before hitting ShowStoppers at the Wynn.
Any recommendations you have here are welcome. I'll blog the show, post photos, and try not to get married too many times (Cara's put me on a 2 weddings per day limit). If you're here, let me know and I'll try to see you over the next few days.
http://www.marketersstudio.com/2007/01/ces_update_regi.html
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidberkowitz/351082358/sizes/o/
I took the monorail from the MGM Grand to the Convention Center this morning.
The good: I had the foresight to get a monorail pass last night. That's a trick I've learned in Manhattan - everyone buys their tickets before they need to get on the train in the morning, and the lines are basically nonexistent at night. Sure enough, there was a massive crowd waiting at the ticket machines, jamming the entire hallway, and I squeezed right through.
The bad: I'm wearing a jacket. Google Weather told me it's 41 degrees. A) It's not. B) While I tried to pare down other items to bare necessities (okay, maybe an Ipevo Skype phone isn't a necessity, though it will come in handy later for some calls), a coat was just a bad idea. I'm ditching that Tues.
The ugly: Registration hell. As I made my way off the monorail, I asked about half a dozen people where to pick up a speaker's badge, and 4 directed me to 250, 2 to 263. Someone in 250 then told me 263, and someone in 263, after not finding me, directed me to 259, the room where I'll be speaking. A very kind woman then saw to it that I'd get registered, and she convinced someone in 250 to register me as an attendee, who gave me the special gold/industry relations pass. Then I went back to 263, and they had a badge waiting for me - the gold kind, but this one with the speaker's badge. I could finally get my frosted doughnut and cranberry juice (plus a pear and a Diet Pepsi for good measure).
An aside: the woman who helped is here with her husband. She's an older woman, presumably here to retire, having lived across the Midwest, Mid-Atlantic, and the South. She said between her husband and herself, they have three Masters degrees between them, and they're making $8.25 an hour, just like everyone else.
It's hard to figure out what to make of it, though I guess, at least for this week, it beats being a Wal-Mart greeter. I did get the sense, conveyed from her, that she could be doing something more meaningful.
Then again, selfishly speaking, I'm glad she's here.
Stone Cold Yahoo
http://www.marketersstudio.com/2007/01/yahoos_cold_sto.html
Yahoo! offered CES attendees a chance to sample what's cool - namely Cold Stone Creamery.
http://www.marketersstudio.com/2007/01/midnight_in_the.html
It’s a pleasant surprise reviewing photos from that first CES and seeing a number of familiar faces, including several I’ve become better friends with and some others who I stay connected to through social media. Pictured here from left to right: Jeremiah Owyang, Sandira Calviac, Jay Kolbe, and David Weiner.
http://www.marketersstudio.com/2008/01/ces-in-review-t.html
Image: http://influxis.com/app/uploads/2014/05/photo.jpg
http://influxis.com/things-digital-2014-digital-hollywood-spring/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNHwgnpzY9w
http://www.slideshare.net/davidberkowitz/20-reasons-the-luxor-sucks
“In January 2009, I did a horrible thing in Las Vegas: I stayed at the Luxor.” So begins my photo essay, the only review I’ve published on SlideShare.
http://www.marketersstudio.com/2009/01/have-you-driven-a-search-engine-lately-ford-on-cars-as-search-engines.html
http://www.marketersstudio.com/2009/01/alan-and-me-ford-ceo-alan-mulallys-crash-course-in-social-media.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIHzY63dYK8
http://www.marketersstudio.com/2009/01/doug-vandagens-ford.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj-pGjqDiac
http://www.marketersstudio.com/2009/01/social-media-jungle-coverage-at-ces-morning-sessions.html
I'm having the pleasure of participating in Jeff Pulver's Social Media Jungle at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas today. Below are my notes from the morning sessions; I'll try to blog more with some of the coverage from the afternoon. You can also follow along by monitoring the smjces tag on Twitter. Names below link to their Twitter IDs so you can follow them. Jeff Pulver Intro Growing up, he had his real identity - a lonely kid. And then his radio identity, where he engaged in conversations with people all over the world. Now, no one needs licenses to broadcast.
People here are change agents in the world of social media.
Presence is the new trigger for communications platforms. we're always just one click away from calling someone.
March-April-May will take social media jungle on the road to a dozen cities around the US.
Chris Brogan There was some long metaphor about raising a navy or something. I tried taking notes and lost track when he started mentioning pirates. Yar, social media matey!Brogan by CC Chapmanr
He says PR people got social media faster than others in marketing. Really? Just because social media's conducive to use for PR, that's not what I've found. I think both PR firms and ad agencies have been generally slow and misguided, with a few exceptions on both sides. I also think PR firms (ahem, Edelman, ahem) have done the biggest harm to their clients' brands by some major misuses of social media. It's much worse to have a PR effort backfire than an ad campaign that underperforms.
The rest of the talk was about empowerment. "Let's stop talking about talking." Ahh, the irony - why was he talking then? Also, he was very dismissive about people who 'don't get it.' He'd rather 'spend his calories' on people who do get it.
Jeremiah Owyang, Forrester dude (and the person I first followed on Twitter - though he's on a Twitter hiatus) - he called in via SkypeImage by Laughing Squid via Flickr
The Future of Social Media
Social Technographics: how people behave and interact with technology (complements demographics, psychographics) - Showed the ladder of participation (Creators, Critics, Collectors, Joiners, Spectators, Inactives) (see all this for yourself with Forrester's online tool) - US youth much more active as creators, critics, joiners
And now... Jello - Social media takes different shapes - The same content can take the form of blog entries, RSS, Twitter posts, FriendFeed listings, etc
Shish Kabobs - Content is becoming bite sized, not just steak - Twitter is the fastest growing social network (Nielsen, Sept 08)
Some analogies he didn't use: Bacon - Content's inedible at first, but it gets really tasty once it heats up in its own fat
M&Ms - It comes in lots of different colors, and even though they all really taste the same, people swear the different colors have unique flavors
Pizza - Some people like to have it by the slice, but some have it by the pie, and then there's the personal-sized pie that just throws everything off, and don't even get me started on Sicilian.
Robert Scoble Image via CrunchBase Initially, lots of stuff on sharing events on Upcoming.org, what FriendFeed's about - basic tech review. It was a good refresher of some other tools like TweetDeck, FriendFeed rooms, etc.
- Not ready to endorse FriendFeed for normal people yet
- Google Reader: he doesn't read his feeds anymore - he reads his friends
- Facebook is getting 450,000 new members a day - it grew by 10 million in 3 weeks.
http://www.marketersstudio.com/2010/01/showstoppers-technology-roundup-from-the-consumer-electronics-show.html
http://www.marketersstudio.com/2010/01/the-social-side-of-ces.html
http://www.marketersstudio.com/2010/01/the-mobile-pov-from-experts-at-digital-hollywood-at-ces.html
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidberkowitz/4260780249/sizes/l
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY6O2S_8fYI
http://www.marketersstudio.com/2010/01/geeking-out-with-parrotcoms-quadricopter-and-robert-scoble-at-ces.html
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidberkowitz/4260788249/in/album-72157623177574054/
http://www.marketersstudio.com/2010/01/paying-20-for-the-privilege-of-trying-square-twitter-founder-jack-dorseys-new-payment-startup.html
The idea’s that you plug this little box – not more than a square centimeter (it’s TINY) – into your iPhone or other mobile device, and you become a mobile merchant. The Square scans the credit card, then the merchant can take a picture of the purchase, you get your signature, and the merchant can email you your receipt. Just like PayPal made it easy for anyone to be a merchant online, this allows anyone to be a merchant offline. While you could see this working for staff in retail stores, various mobile businesses from contractors to farmers market vendors would probably find this valuable.
http://www.marketersstudio.com/2011/01/the-social-side-of-ces-2011.html
http://inside.nike.com/blogs/nikerunning_news-en_US/2011/01/05/introducing-the-nike-sportwatch-gps
http://adage.com/article/digitalnext/a-ipad-tablet-marketing-agency/148055/
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid59348424001?bckey=AQ~~,AAAABh3C_dE~,zBkXqCU8KVZ251m5EVgAOpsRSvnZ05Pp&bclid=738892232001&bctid=742130400001
http://www.marketersstudio.com/2011/01/the-full-consumer-electronics-show-ces-multimedia-multiplatform-coverage-roundup-spectactular.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF51nYqk4ew
http://www.marketersstudio.com/2012/01/presenting-ces-consumer-electronics-socialization.html
They’re gorgeous
Everyone visits the exhibits and oohs and ahhs
And then no one actually buys them
Biggest drawback today: with the glasses on, one can’t interact with their digital devices… or other people in the room
Photos my own
More background: Sensics Smart Goggles - http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/sensics-head-tracking-3d-goggles-hands-on-video/
http://lonelysandwich.com/search/disclosure+1994
Wowwee - http://venturebeat.com/2012/01/08/wowwee-shows-off-its-latest-app-gear-toys-that-interact-with-downloaded-apps
Discovery Bay Games - http://discoverybaygames.com/
The biggest gaming news was from Microsoft – 66MM Xbox consoles in use, 18MM Kinects
Innovation is happening everywhere in the gaming field
WowWee showed off new toys that interact with tablets
Discovery Bay Games turns the iPad into an old-fashioned Atari arcade game, among other interactive games and hardware it produces
Parrot’s AR.Drone 2.0 is the latest version of hovercraft that flies with the aid of augmented reality, beaming back what it ‘sees’ to the controls on a mobile phone
Essential Dynamics showcased a printer that “prints with a whole host of materials, including food, chocolates, silicone, cheese, epoxy, organics, etc.”
I’m not sure how much you’d want cheese to come out of your printer, but 3D printing is becoming more accessible
This one is $3,000, and once it gets under $1,000 it will migrate from professional hobbyists to early adopters
http://www.marketersstudio.com/2013/01/what-mattered-at-ces-for-marketers.html
Ad Age - http://adage.com/article/digitalnext/trends-marketers-watch-ces/238998/
Follow up - http://adage.com/article/digitalnext/scoring-5-trends-marketers-ces/239176/
Aaron Levie - CES: people travel from all over to play with gadgets and not buy anything. Not to be confused with Best Buy.
https://twitter.com/levie/status/288120050672599040?uid=1051731&iid=0506bbb9-4ed6-430f-9c5c-87d760418013&nid=12+45+20130107
http://www.businessinsider.com/forget-the-smartphone-forget-the-tablet--the-phablet-is-the-gadget-of-2013-2013-1
Lazerow knows best
http://re-timer.com/
http://www.amazon.com/NeuroSky-8037-003-Necomimi/dp/B007YNBOJM/ref=sr_1_2?m=A26NM1OSTNWVCB&s=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1443736899&sr=1-2
http://www.necomimi.com/
A memorable Qualcomm keynote…
Qualcomm keynote in The Verge - http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/8/3850056/qualcomms-insane-ces-2013-keynote-pictures-tweets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2HXGm0YK24
Colbert - http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/12/in-defense-of-the-hapifork/
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/422778/january-10-2013/tip-wag---hapifork---kevin-garnett
What is the point of consumer technology that stops you from consuming?”
- Stephen Colbert
TWC + Roku - http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/07/roku-700-streaming-channels-twc/
www.roku.com
- http://www.vuzix.com/consumer/products_m100.html
VentureBeat - http://venturebeat.com/2013/01/03/pebble-will-finally-unveil-its-kickstarter-darling-smartwatch-at-ces/
- Pebble Watch
Pebble shows off its $10MM crowdfunded watch
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dashlabs.dash.android
http://www.dash.by
- https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=168844839926828&set=a.158994770911835.50087.121609777983668&type=1&theater
http://www.oculusvr.com/
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1523379957/oculus-rift-step-into-the-game
http://www.robotex.com/
Careful: you may step on robots trying to snapchat you
http://www.slideshare.net/davidberkowitz/ces-2014-review-what-matters-for-marketers
http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/brierdudley/Everson01_print.jpg
Oculus VR headset - http://www.roadtovr.com/ces-2014-oculus-rift-crystal-cove-prototype-palmer-luckey-nate-mitchell-low-persistence-positional-tracking-interview-video/
Yahoo keynote - http://www.examiner.com/article/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-delivers-ces-keynote-promoting-new-services
Intel Edison - http://www.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/2014/01/intel-announces-edison/
Makerbot Replicator Z18 – www.makerbot.com
Thingiverse buckle - http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:227635
11) Within the next 5 years, mass market 3D printers will be able to print common household goods, of the same quality that consumers would expect from local stores
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0ZuobfuLPQ
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/07/fitbit-partners-with-tory-burch/
Kontera – www.kontera.com
Parsing CES buzz: why did some trends pop?
http://keyhole.co/insights/CHLJYj/topstories
Top posts shared are all about the cars
Glasses through the ages: so many failed attempts that get closer to a vision of the future
Sensible Baby - http://mysensiblebaby.com/
Sensors in baby clothing alert changes in breathing, temperature, and position
http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/10/5277618/the-verge-awards-the-best-of-ces-2014
Oculus Rift wins Best of the Best… if only normal people wanted to consume media like this
Engadget - http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/09/best-of-ces-2014-awards-winners/
Oculus Rift finally brings augmented reality past Disclosure level of immersiveness
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/09/best-of-ces-2014-awards-winners/
But Indiegogo price is $90 – 3x Chromecast. And Chromecast keeps improving
Airtame wins Engadget’s Best Startup – though Google Chromecast has major leg up
Yahoo keynote announces ad platform, Tumblr integration. Weekend Update more newsworthy
New media properties built using Tumblr… and an ad platform most people would have assumed existed already? No, not newsworthy
http://mashable.com/2014/01/07/marissa-mayer-yahoo-advertising/
http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE0LzAxLzA3LzFjL1NOTHlhaG9vY2VzLmI3YTMzLmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTg1MHg1OTA-CmUJanBn/5a43c8fd/551/SNL-yahoo-ces-2014-1.jpg
But… Yahoo’s acquisition of Aviate does indicate a future of a more personalized, responsive home screen
http://venturebeat.com/2014/01/07/let-the-2014-acquisition-spree-begin-marissa-mayer-reveals-yahoos-acquisition-of-aviate/
The Future of CES Belongs to Marketers (David Berkowitz column in Ad Age)
Live Blog: The CES Panel on Video Advertising (Danny Sullivan coverage of Berkowitz’s panel in Marketing Land)
CES is Shaping up to be the Next Cannes (Adweek quotes Berkowitz)
The Technology and Trends Breaking Through CES This Year (CEO Matt Britton featured in Adweek video)
A Second CES for Marketers Rises from the Shadows (Berkowitz writes about Shadow CES for LinkedIn)
Sneakers, Bling, and Chocolate Steal CES Spotlight: 5 Brands That Outshone Electronics and Tech Companies (Berkowitz byline in Ad Age)
Features on MRY’s blog:
2015: The Year of the Smartwatch?
The Future of Automobiles is Now at CES
Cyber Security in a Connected World
Hospitality in 2015 and Beyond
http://www.slideshare.net/davidberkowitz/ces-2015-50-highlights-for-marketers
What other show can serve up every single tech buzzword in a single room?
https://twitter.com/dberkowitz/status/552251461858365440
More: http://www.businessinsider.com/belfie-stick-2015-1
The Belfie Stick got more buzz than some of the keynotes, and has one of the best logos ever
Google Cardboad’s makeshift VR sells 500K units, hints at way to bring VR to mass market
More: https://www.google.com/get/cardboard/
http://adage.com/article/digitalnext/sneakers-bling-chocolate-steal-ces-spotlight/296550/
2015 is the year non-tech brands stole the CES spotlight, with Under Armour, Hershey, Swarovski, and others announcing products and partnerships. There is no turning back. What’s YOUR plan for 2016 and beyond?
http://adage.com/article/consumer-electronics-show/armour-debuts-fitness-tracking-app/296479/
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/01/07/under-armour-incs-new-app-wants-to-put-your-fitnes.aspx
UA Record, Under Armour’s social network, connects fitness lovers with friends, plus stars like Gisele
More: http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/01/07/under-armour-incs-new-app-wants-to-put-your-fitnes.aspx
More: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/01/06/now-you-can-print-chocolate/?mod=e2tw
How to get 3D printing mainstream? Hershey’s partners on printing chocolate COMBINE WITH PREVIOUS
https://store.misfit.com/collections/swarovski-shine#swarovski_shine
http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/05/misfit-debuts-a-new-swarovski-shine-wearables-collection-featuring-crystal-jewelry-solar-charging/
https://digitalstore.makerbot.com/martha-stewart
Holy mother of buzz: Nixie debuts a wearable selfie drone prototype
More: http://makezine.com/2015/01/07/nixie-the-wearable-selfie-drone-delights-crowd-at-ces-2015/
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/second-ces-marketers-rises-from-shadows-david-berkowitz
http://www.marketersstudio.com/2015/01/a-peek-into-the-shadow-ces-now-on-linkedin-pulse.html
http://www.slideshare.net/davidberkowitz/ces-2016-preview-consumer-electronics-show-trends
CES 2007-2016 10 Years in Review by David Berkowitz CMO, MRY David.Berkowitz@mry.com @dberkowitz
Table of Contents • Overview • 2007 • 2008 • 2009 • 2010 • 2011 • 2012 • 2013 • 2014 • 2015 • 2016
Time Travel: 10 Years of CES Attending CES for ten years means traveling a total of 50,000 miles (from New York), navigating about 20 million square feet of exhibit space, mingling with some subset of more than 1.5 million attendees, and creating at least 1,000 slides for recap decks. I also know that one’s status as a rookie or veteran is determined by others; my familiarity with the Consumer Electronics Show is dwarfed by those who have been attending for decades. But, 10 CES’s is something, and attending my tenth one in 2016 has made me nostalgic for the early days, back when I wrote more blog posts than columns and presentations, and back when the snacks a tech company served mattered as much to me as the impact of that tech on my clients’ businesses. As I prepared for CES 2016, I looked back through all my files – blog posts, Flickr photos, recap decks, columns – and gathered highlights from what I’ve shared publicly (as opposed to anything presented solely to clients). I was repeatedly surprised by early mentions of topics such as drones, virtual reality, and the Internet of Things. And yet, I had to wade through countless images of 3D TVs (which I sensed were a flop from the start) and 3D printers (which I was way too bullish on in terms of applications for mass market usage in the home). I noted rather loftily in Advertising Age in 2015, “CES, at its core, isn't a show about electronics. It's a show about time.” What you’ll find here takes a broader view of time than what we’re normally afforded in a typical column or deck or tweet. It offers the perspective that a single year’s analysis can’t provide. If it interests or moves or inspires you in any way, please let me know. Thanks for your time. David Berkowitz David.Berkowitz@mry.com
My first words written about CES (I miss that sense of wonder) “I'm laying low today in advance of CES… It's daunting – all the coverage talking about the #s, somewhere between 1.6 and 2 million square feet of exhibit space, 150,000-170,000 attendees, 984 dancing Elvises…”
A sign of the economic troubles to come? While representing my agency, my blog was a more personal project, and I covered some slices of life in Vegas that later disappeared. Here’s one surprising passage. I wonder how this couple fared during the recession and after. “The woman who helped [with registration] is here with her husband. She's an older woman, presumably here to retire, having lived across the Midwest, Mid-Atlantic, and the South. She said between her husband and herself, they have three Masters degrees between them, and they're making $8.25 an hour.”
Go figure… my first photo from CES is a selfie (I was clearly far ahead of that trend)
One of my favorite photos from any CES, Yahoo serving the hot ice cream brand also merited a separate blog post entitled “Yahoo's Cold Stone Creamery Kids at CES”; the rest of the photos from that CES are on Flickr.
“[I’m] blogging away with the Dell blogger, and people from Minnesota, and, well, lots of dudes, most of whom are now blogging while intoxicated. One just said, ‘It was a blast, man,’ without a hint of irony. I get the sense that guy's a real big shot here, so he can say, ‘It was a blast, man,’ and people will think he's a god. That's what happens when you're A-list. If I said, ‘It was a blast, man,’ they'd rip up my Bloghaus credentials. It's tough on the bottom rungs.” – from “Midnight in the Vegas Blogosphere”
Some things don’t change fast enough In 2008, my roundup included a note on panels that lacked 50-50 gender balance and 20/20 vision: “I was taking some notes during my panel at CES. I found that the audience was 85% male, compared to the panel which was 100% male. 20% of the audience wore glasses, compared to 43% of the panelists.” Image: http://influxis.com/app/uploads/2014/05/photo.jpg
Among the best marketing I’ve encountered at CES is this children’s book from Microsoft. I didn’t even appreciate at the time how the children’s book metaphor was all the more apt, turning the notion of stay-at-home mothers into stay-at-home servers. You can ‘read’ the book on YouTube.
I really was obsessed with Yahoo’s snacks Could Yahoo have done more to court press if it just served better snacks at CES? In my second year at CES, I expected more from them: “Biggest letdowns: Yahoo – this year's tent had coffee and assorted nuts, but even the dark chocolate covered peanuts can't compare to last year when they had Cold Stone Creamery (maybe if the stock goes up they'll serve Sprinkles Cupcakes next year)” The same post further noted the value of the consumer packaged goods innovation known as 100-calorie snack packs.
“In January 2009, I did a horrible thing in Las Vegas: I stayed at the Luxor.” So begins my photo essay, the only review I’ve published on SlideShare. Don Steele and I would often compare notes on who got the worse hotel room at conferences like this; we’ve sometimes stayed in the same hotel, leading to exchanges on Twitter that weren’t exactly great ads for those properties.
I met Alan Mulally, then Ford’s President and CEO, at Social Media Club’s Ultimate Blogger Dinner (thanks, Scott Monty). First impressions: “He didn’t know what social media was. He candidly noted that he just found out on the way down to the event.” But he was remarkably tech savvy. “I almost fell over when he started talking about the car as a platform. The conversation then got into open APIs.”
Ford launches Sync with Microsoft Doug VanDagens, Director of Connected Partnerships with Ford, shared his vision for Connected Cars. The full interview is on my blog (with text) and on YouTube. Doug VanDagens: What we're announcing here at the show is an ability to connect to the internet through a normal voice plan. So all you need is your phone, and we can take Sync through Bluetooth, connect to your phone, connect out to Tellme, which is a voice portal - a best in class voice portal, and Microsoft now owns those assets. From there we can direct you to a number of Internet data sources. We can send the GPS information from the vehicle, we can send health report diagnostic information over your voice plan, and then we have traffic, directions, business search, and information, all internet-based.
Going for the hat trick, I interviewed Ford President of the Americas Mark Fields, noting, “A car used to be about getting from Point A to Point B, but now new technologies have turned the car into an MP3 player, search engine, and social network.” The 7-minute interview is on YouTube. Fields succeeded Mulally as Ford’s CEO.
Robert Scoble on Reading Friends For a couple of years, Jeff Pulver brought a phenomenal roster of speakers and attendees together for his Social Media Jungle events. I covered the 2009 sessions, including talks by Jeremiah Owyang and Chris Brogan. The remarks that stand out most today are from Robert Scoble, who was a mainstay in my coverage the first half of my CES decade. First, he noted Facebook was getting 450,000 new members a day - it grew by 10 million in 3 weeks. Granted, he also plugged FriendFeed, though I commented that he was “not ready to endorse FriendFeed for normal people yet.” He also described Google Reader. I noted Scoble “doesn’t read his feeds anymore; he reads his friends.” Today, that happens more than ever, though that behavior most prominently takes place on Facebook.
Remember ringtones? This was from my Digital Hollywood recap. Some of it proved smarter, such as discussing the importance of Android when having 20 handsets running that OS globally was a really big deal. Below, it’s funny seeing a discussion of payments that includes Google Checkout, as well as thoughts on Facebook monetization years before it ran mobile ads: Consumers still largely pay for ringtones, chat, and wallpaper. Carriers take a large chunk of micropayment transactions, as high as 30 to 60 percent. That’s fine for virtual goods with low overhead, but it doesn’t work as well for physical goods. iTunes has established itself in micropayments in a way that Google hasn’t with Google Checkout. Watch out for Facebook here as it turns on mobile monetization. Its online monetization methods such as advertising and virtual gift payments don’t exist yet in mobile, but they’ll need to turn that on.
From the blog: Technology that will make you look like the biggest idiot in front of your co-workers: Zyxio’s Sensawaft. [This] lets you control computing devices just by breathing. The guy was blowing into a mic and controlling flicking a website up and down. I got to do this too… the direction of the air blown can make a difference. [The URL for Zyxio now returns a 404 error.]
Beamz wins the award for the product from my first five years that I’m shocked is still around. I noted, “If your musical talents include banging a rock on the ground and almost kind of being able to whistle, you’ll love this.” While today Beamz promotes itself as a product for homes and schools, it also emphasizes its value for therapy and rehab.
3D TVs were eating up all the best real estate in the Central Hall of the Convention Center. Apparently, this is not how families actually watch TV today.
Here are lots of people gathered in Panasonic’s 3D TV theater (I’m in the upper center with a camera, next to Jessica Lokaj, who gave me the tour). Now, we’ll see versions of this with virtual reality headsets. What’s old is new again.
This collateral cracks me up now – especially the “Wow!” at the bottom. I’m not knocking Panasonic; I just had a booth tour (thanks, Jessica) so I took more photos there than at other booths, and all of those exhibits feel so antiquated now.
Right concept, wrong screen: Panasonic showed off its Skype integration in this smart TV. Video chat has caught on, and mobile apps such as FaceTime have become mainstays. This isn’t how people are using their TVs though.
Drones started to become really prominent at CES in 2015, but back in 2010, Robert Scoble was having a blast filming this Parrot drone. I also love that my video of Scoble droning got 44,000 views.
This screen from PlayOn looks like a Roku or Apple TV dashboard. It’s striking to see Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu there, along with CBS – which only announced a streaming service in late 2014, well over four years later. Also, remember when the Wii pictured here was the hot gaming console?
This image of the media storage and sharing device Pogoplug shows an option to publish to MySpace. Some snapshots of CES are stuck in the middle, showing in retrospect not just what’s on it’s way in, but what was on its way out.
Get this – an e-reader (the Que by Plastic Logic) filmed on a Flip video camera. The one filming is Michael Learmonth, then editor with Advertising Age and now with International Business Times.
Another sighting earlier than expected: a demo of Square, founded in February 2009 and shown here in January 2010. I blogged, “The idea’s that you plug this little box – not more than a square centimeter (it’s TINY) – into your iPhone or other mobile device, and you become a mobile merchant.”
No CES recap is complete without celeb sightings. So, here’s LeVar Burton.
Foursquare launched in 2009. Come 2011, booths were promoting CES check-ins. I had noted about 500 people were checked into the main CES event at any given time, though that wasn’t a lot for an event attracting nearly 150,000 tech savvy attendees. And is the image on the left SCVNGR? Ahh, the memories.
From the “gone but not forgotten” field is Quirky, the crowdsourced product development company. I loved pretty much everything about them, from their business model to their design, and it was rough seeing them file for bankruptcy in September 2015.
In 2012, Nike launched FuelBand, but the year before, it used CES to promote its SportWatch GPS, which offered similar functionality and pioneering features such as the option to share runs on Facebook so that friends can cheer you on live.
Since my first year at CES, a lot of my best experiences were hanging out with bloggers and those at the forefront of social media. Pictured here is Social Media Club founder Chris Heuer, a generous host who had run some of my favorite events.
Why there are no tablet marketing agencies In Ad Age, I described fundamental differences between mobile devices and tablets. The stationary distinction excerpted here has become more important over the past year with Apple, Google, and Microsoft releasing high-end “pro” tablets that are increasingly laptop replacements. There's a difference between mobile and stationary. Mobile devices are designed to be used when you're in motion and physically moving. With tablets, you're sitting down somewhere – possibly out of the home or office, but in a stationary mode where you might have used a laptop or netbook before.
No, this isn’t another post commenting on snacks served at CES. Reese’s used central convention center real estate to launch a product that had nothing to do with tech. It did stand out, but the connection seemed too nebulous. A friend told me that as tech got smaller, so did Reese’s. The booth didn’t bother pointing that out.
Big brands, bigger ideas Each year, non-tech brands gained greater prominence. In this MediaLink-hosted keynote, Coca-Cola CMO Joe Tripodi (who just went to Subway) talked about community trumping advertising. But he also discussed being able to reach 20 million Facebook fans for $0 in media spend – a very quaint notion. I miss those days.
Complete 2011 roundup http://www.marketersstudio.com/2011/01/the- full-consumer-electronics-show-ces- multimedia-multiplatform-coverage-roundup- spectactular.html “Why We Go to CES,” created with Xtranormal, featured two marketers talking about the joys of CES. The satire mocked how none of the tablets that were announced would matter by the time the iPad 2 came out. This proved true, though Amazon has since made inroads selling functional enough tablets for $50.
CES often coincides with Elvis Presley’s birthday. The King’s memory lives on.
CES: Consumer Electronics Socialization In 2012, I wrote my strangest column about CES, which was also perhaps the most prescient. It took the vantage point of hardware devices to show how they are starting to communicate with each other and with various media. A few excerpts: Nest: We’ve got a new thermostat that adapts to people’s lifestyles and adjusts energy usage to fit with their consumption patterns. You can then access the thermostat via mobile apps. Whirlpool: I’ve come out with new washing machines and dryers that allow people to monitor the status of their laundry cycle on their mobile devices. Ford SYNC: I’m an actual platform, so I can become a search engine, an entertainment console, or just about anything else. When you pair your phone with me, I make communicating even easier. Mercedes: I’m also pairing with Facebook, Yelp, and others. Just think of all the ways you can rationalize buying me now. Pay $50,000 for Facebook, and the car is free! Android: From early on, I’ve been designed to sync up with the Chrome browser and other Web- based services.
3D TV This is a reminder that what works in the movie theater doesn’t work in the living room. When I’m at home, I’m not going to eat $25 worth of snacks drowning in butter with more calories than two supersized Big Mac meals, nor will I do anything like this. But for Avatar 2? You bet.
3D TV One of my favorite 3D TV shots, this guy looks like he’s watching a football fly straight into his groin.
Virtual reality headgear by Sensics (proof that the movie “Disclosure” was infinitely ahead of its time) Come 2012, more VR headsets populated CES, bringing back memories of the movie “Disclosure” from 1994.
Drones were mentioned again in the 2012 recap. Note here, as in 2010 when Robert Scoble was flying the same kind of Parrot drone around a blogger party, drones are cited as a toy, in the same slide as Discovery Bay Games (top left) and WowWee (bottom left). Their potential to be used in business and war wasn’t yet top of mind.
3D printing was a hot topic by 2012, extending from plastic to applications such as this unit from Essential Dynamics which can also print with food such as chocolate and cheese. The holding company still seems to specialize in “nanomaterials,” but the Imagine 3D printer product page is a dead link.
Scoring 5 predictions for CES 2013 1) TV is no longer the first screen 2) Touch, gesture, voice devices need new types of ads 3) The internet of things expands its social network 4) As tech titans bruise each other, consumers benefit 5) The product announcements won’t matter by Feb 1) TVs were dominant but connected with other devices 2) Samsung AdHub could tap voice, startups addressing this 3) CES 2013 was filled with connected devices 4) Many brands were platforms, few adapt to others 5) Bingo. Look what’s outside main hall for what matters The Prediction The Result
BOX CEO Aaron Levie sums up CEO in a tweet.
Business Insider promoted one of the worst buzzwords ever. Fortunately, this word never caught on.
By now, CES emerged as a tentpole event for marketers – a far cry from how it was when a few brands and agencies sent bloggers and some token execs back in 2007.
Don’t ask. This stuff just happens at CES.
CES is a show made for some weird selfies. I managed not to buy this headset. As of December 2015, it’s still on the market, going for $299.
One of the stranger products featured at CES were these Necomimi cat ears that read your brainwaves and move based on your emotions. Stranger still, they’re still on sale, going for $50 on Amazon. I may need to finally buy these. Brainwave scanners would wind up getting hotter over the years.
The Qualcomm keynote, remembered most for its Big Bird scene, was by far the most lambasted CES talk during the decade I’ve attended. Read The Verge to try to understand how bad it was, or just watch the thing.
Colbert on HAPIfork “ The HAPIfork remains one of the stranger products to gain attention at CES, as it flies in the face most consumer behaviors, and it’s a symbol for when the Internet of Things craze turns absurd. But, you can still buy one of these for about $100. Stephen Colbert said it best: “What is the point of consumer technology that stops you from consuming?”
to Roku (but you still need cable) In 2013, Time Warner Cable announced it was coming to the Roku. Only in the past few months have I come to appreciate this, thanks to TWC offering more programs on demand, and the interface for both Roku and the TWC app getting much better. While I still have a cable subscription, I’m watching TWC far more through my Roku than my TWC box.
Google announced Glass (right) in the spring of 2012. It hadn’t shipped until its developer model was made available for $1,500 in April 2013, but it had come to symbolize the whole wearables field. Vuzix (left) had been in the smart headset and eyewear business for years and used CES to one-up Glass. Vuzix continues to be one of the more interesting CES stalwarts.
Long before there was Apple Watch, Pebble raised $10 million, setting crowdfunding records. While I loved my first version of the watch and even bought a second, Pebble’s destined to be remembered at best as a pioneer that paved the way for Apple, Samsung, and others.
ODB enables an API CES is now one of the best car shows, and many companies are piggybacking on that trend of cars becoming a more central focus. Dash, which continues to show its wares at CES, featured its software that provides safety, financial, and social functions by tapping into auto data generated by hardware that plugs into cars’ on-board diagnostics (OBD) ports.
Reality can still be virtual and not just augmented In 2012, I first featured virtual reality, but 2013 included a nod to Oculus, which ran its Kickstarter campaign for the Rift in the summer of 2012.
Yes, robots are fun, and I guess this model from RoboteX was some kind of telepresence model. But my original caption for this photo was, “Careful: you may step on robots trying to Snapchat you.” While January 2013 feels like early days for Snapchat, by November 2012, peopled were sharing more than 20 million photos daily through its iOS app, and the total photos shared passed one billion.
“The new world order is complete collaboration, and CES is a great showcase for that.” - Carolyn Everson, Facebook As CES keeps evolving into a show designed for marketers, sellers courting ad dollars send their leaders to shake hands, kiss babies, and provide good quotes to use in decks like this. You can find the full 2014 recap on SlideShare.
Here’s one framework I’ve used to describe CES announcements in a single slide. Note that this can be customized for every brand or audience, as what’s applicable or innovative to one isn’t necessarily so to another. Innovative Applicable BreakthroughUseful Underwhelming Exciting
The 12 Principles of CES 1. Every device should be able to connect to other devices, and the cloud 2. Every surface can be a screen 3. Sensors are getting small and cheap enough that it will be cost effective to incorporate them into practically every kind of product and package within the next several years. 4. Your car can drive and park itself (and far better than you can drive and park it) 5. Your car is another connected home 6. Your home and your car have operating systems 7. Your home and car operating systems will soon sport app stores far more robust than what you have today on your phone 8. Wearable technology will scale when the emphasis shifts from technology to fashion 9. 3D printing has expanded well beyond plastics to ceramics, metals, food, and even human organs 10. Within the next 5 years, 3D printers will be cheap enough that they expand from the hobbyist market to the mass market, with people paying a nominal amount for the printer and more, over the course of its use, for the ‘toner’ – whether plastics or other materials 11. Within the next 5 years, mass market 3D printers will be able to print common household goods, of the same quality that consumers would expect from local stores 12. TVs will always get bigger and thinner, with the picture more captivating. The quality of the screens will always outpace the content available to take advantage of that quality. It’s an arms race ad infinitum
I was way too bulling on the speed at which 3D printers would become home office equipment. The potential for the fields that 3D printing can change remains tremendous (my Binghamton University Commencement Address from December 2013 further discusses this), but we’re not exactly printing our own buckles at home en masse.
Fitbit’s partnership with Tory Burch, where the designer would create accessories for wearables rather than compete with the technology, epitomized much of how any kind of brand can be a part of CES and the trends represented there.
Overhyped T-Mobile CEO who crashed AT&T party This wasn’t even bigger? Christopher Lloyd is back! Meet your overlords Ubiquitous presence there Looking ahead to February Instead of just featuring some published reports from research firms analyzing the buzz around CES, this time, I took a report from Kontera and added some speech bubbles with my own context.
Any doubt CES has become a major car show? The most popular posts shared about CES were all cars, based on data from Keyhole.
With Google Glass still a hot topic, an exhibit featured smart eyewear through the years.
Wearable tech took new turns at CES with new kinds of value propositions, such as the Sensible Baby senor that alerts caretakers to changes in a baby’s breathing, temperature and position.
The virtual reality drumbeat sounded louder in 2014 as Oculus Rift won top honors from The Verge and Engadget. The real killer apps for it are still to be determined.
Don’t always believe ‘best of’ awards if you’re looking for a cheat sheet on what products you’ll still hear about a year later (or a day later). When Engadget featured the wireless connectivity dongle Airtame, it was offered on Indiegogo for $90 – three times the price of Google Chromecast, and Chromecast was already improving. Google and Apple really deserve ‘best of’ honors in this field.
Yahoo gallantly returned to my coverage, and for a change, I wasn’t covering their snacks. Their keynote announced its ad platform and Tumblr integration, but none of this seemed newsworthy; it’s what they should have been doing already. As opposed to Qualcomm’s memorably weird ‘Big Bird’ keynote, Yahoo missed an opportunity to show off an innovative vision and strategy.
CES 2015: 50+ Highlights for Marketers David Weinstock, creative chief at MRY, is the cover model for what has to be among the all-time greatest conference recap deck cover photos.
CES 2015 Top 10 Takeaways & Trends 1. Non-tech brands are taking more of the CES spotlight, and that will be a theme the rest of the decade 2. Big screens get thinner and prettier, but brands should focus on viewing shifting to smaller screens 3. RIP 3D (for now); momentum has shifted virtual reality, which could offer people a more enticing reason to wear such headsets 4. Drones and versatile cameras such as GoPro are opening up new photo and video production possibilities that give consumers completely new perspectives 5. Every product that doesn’t have a sensor in it might within a few years 6. The Internet of Things (IoT) could face new walled garden hurdles with devices only working with their proprietary operating systems (eg another Apple vs. Google battle) 7. For wearables, success will hinge on what’s affordable, fashionable, and offers a clear value proposition 8. 3D printing is still mostly for industrial and professional use cases, but partnerships between hardware manufacturers and consumer brands may help popularize the technology 9. As cars and other experimental vehicles get smarter (while also getting greener), brands will have more ways to reach consumers while in transit 10. Many of the best technologies are designed to let people have fun, or even create a sense of wonder. Tap into that however possible to create new kinds of emotional connections with consumers.
The caption: “What other show can serve up every single tech buzzword in a single room?” 3D printing, drones, selfies, connected cars, VR… this show has it all!
Column: The Future of CES belongs to marketers A column in Ad Age expressed why marketers need to embrace CES en masse: “CES, at its core, isn't a show about electronics. It's a show about time. Products unveiled there reflect bets on how people will spend their time.” The column went on to describe just how well marketers understand time, and recaps some of the more impactful brand partnerships coming out of CES.
There are now sensors for everything. This one scares me. What if we start relying on sensors for everything? What if we get a sensor like this and stop checking ourselves if our baby’s in the car? We can’t outsource all of our most important responsibilities to technology.
The Belfie Stick got more buzz than some of the CES keynotes, and it has one of the best logos ever. Now that’s category innovation.
Google Cardboard’s minimalist headsets sold 500,000 units by CES 2015, hinting at a way to bring VR to the mass market.
This was a big year for big announcements from big brands. Under Airmour announced its social network, built on its $150 million acquisition of MapMyFitness in late 2013. Hershey announced the CocoJet 3D printer for custom chocolate in conjunction with 3D Systems. Misfit, later acquired by Fossil for $260 million, announced its Swarovski Shine Collection for crystal-studded wearables. Makerbot showed off its Martha Stewart Trellis Collection, with designs available in the 3D printer manufacturer’s digital store.
Nixie debuted a wearable selfie drone prototype. Way to cram so many buzzwords into a tiny device. They haven’t released the product yet.
Shadow CES Already getting nostalgic at the start of 2015, I wrote a LinkedIn Pulse column describing the experience of attending CES my first few years: This was my ninth straight year attending CES representing a marketing agency. It was a strange experience in earlier days. Clients weren’t there, unless consumer electronics brands happened to be clients. I’d spend time hitting up side events of some digital pioneers I admired like Chris Heuer’s Social Media Club and Jeff Pulver’s 140conf. I was the only person representing my agency, and most places I went, I was the only person representing any agency…. Then, I got to the meat of the story, discussing the differences between Public CES (the one everyone talks about) and Shadow CES (which is where most of marketers’ education and deal-making happen). The other CES is the Shadow CES. This is the one that tends not to get as much attention, but for some brands, it’s more productive. It happens at places like the Cosmopolitan or Four Seasons. A more official version of the Shadow CES took place at the Aria this year. Dubbed the C-Space, it was where marketers could meet up with established media companies like NBC Universal and emerging ones like Samba TV. They could also meet with each other. I joined one private discussion with select executives from an advertising trade association. While it had little to do with CES directly, it was a terrific opportunity to learn from these people who I wouldn’t have readily met otherwise.
For 2016, I published my first preview of CES a full month before the show. It was more fun to create than recap decks, as I could make everything up, while in turn skewering pundits like myself who have to make up the supposed themes of any given CES.
The CES 2016 Preview included a few Bingo boards, such as this one for drones Slices bagels Waters plants Takes selfies of you Takes selfies of itself Kills spiders Whispers sweet nothings in your ear Prays Tickles Farts so it covers up when you do Shuts up movie talkers Plays a perfect game of Jenga Fights fires FREE (park your drone here) Dances (Hammer pants optional) Clips toenails Votes Tortures terrorists Tortures non- terrorists Sweeps chimneys Plays soccer Collects stamps Cuddles Gives rides to hamsters Fetches newspapers Holds your place in line
Highlights and final thoughts from 2016 will be added to this deck soon. Follow me on SlideShare to receive updates whenever this deck is updated.
Thanks for the memories; keep in touch David Berkowitz CMO, MRY @mry / @dberkowitz www.mry.com www.marketersstudio.com David.Berkowitz@mry.com
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October 27, 2014 Collectibles
1976 Computer Sells Close to $1 Million, What Did We Toss Out?
The More You Pay the More You Like It
Values of rarities are only perceived ones and are subjective to the beholder. Only two people have to have this perception, the winning bidder and the under-bidder. Proven history shows that auction is a great method to sell rare items, people fight with their money to claim their prize.
This was no exception at Bonham’s groundbreaking History of Science Auction held in New York on October 22nd. Offered were 288 lots including items ranging from 18th century pocket globes to the ilk of 20th century tech.
The star of the show was a motherboard retaining a label reading, “Apple Computer 1 / Palo Alto, Ca. Copyright 1976”. Let’s face it, not a pretty object, but historically very significant in the digital world. The bottom line is, when the bidding ended and the dust settled, Apple 1 sold for an astonishing $905,000.
Will Vintage Computers/ Video Games be the Next Antique?
There is a definite surge in the collecting of old computer equipment and early video games. A colleague mentioned to me that he wondered what he threw out in the 1970s. Tossing out obsolete items is nothing new, and actually part of the puzzle that makes something collectible. We connect with different sorts of things depending on our place in time. Generally people who used early computers and played video games early on couldn’t wait to get the latest and rid of the passé’ clunkers. As time moves on, some of us relate to these objects from the ‘good old days” and become enamored with our previously disregarded Atari or Commodore 64 (fill in the blank).
I remember being shocked earlier this year when a laptop Bill Clinton used to send an email to astronaut John Glenn in 1998 sold for $60,000. I dare to say, that this is only the beginning, there will be more auction records set as time goes on.
Can a Discarded Computer Save Your Life?
In an unrelated recent story, the short answer is, yes. Just a few days ago a Siberian man was at a local dump scavenging for scrap metal to sell, at the same time a large bear was also scavenging for food. As their paths crossed and the bear attacked him. The unnamed man picked up an old discarded computer and bashed the bear on the head with it, sending the tech challenged bear fleeing.
It is never a good idea to hoard, but if you have something unique, yet outdated in the tech world, think twice before making it become landfill. If you are not lucky enough to watch it go up in value, you still may be able to ward off a hungry bear or two with it.
by Martin Willis
Gemr Community Manager
martin@gemr.com
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According to the American Heart Association, it's better to eat more complex carbohydrates (vegetables, fruits and whole grains) than simple carbohydrates found in sugars. Complex carbohydrates add more fiber, vitamins and minerals to the diet than foods high in refined sugars and flour. Foods high in complex carbohydrates are usually low in calories, saturated fat and cholesterol.
Iodine is needed for normal mental development of the baby, but it can be difficult to get enough from food. Ways of increasing iodine intake include using iodised salt, eating fish and seafood weekly (see your health professional for advice about safe types and amounts of fish), or using a multivitamin supplement that contains iodine and is safe for pregnancy.
Iron helps to create the hemoglobin that carries oxygen in your blood. It’s also important to maintaining healthy skin, hair, and nails. Due to the amount of blood lost during menstruation, women of childbearing age need more than twice the amount of iron that men do—even more during pregnancy and breastfeeding. However, many of us aren’t getting nearly enough iron in our diets, making iron deficiency anemia the most common deficiency in women.
Low-fat diets also can help you lose weight.16 But the amount of weight lost is usually small. You can lose weight and lower your risk for heart disease and stroke if you follow an overall healthy pattern of eating that includes more fruits, vegetables, whole grains and beans that are high in fiber, nuts, low-fat dairy and fish, in addition to staying away from trans fat and saturated fat.
Picture your perfect self with your flat abs, firmer butt, and slim thighs every day. Seeing really is believing: “You become consciously and acutely aware of everything that can help you achieve the visualized outcome that you desire when you impress an idea into the subconscious part of you,” says celebrity yoga coach Gwen Lawrence. “It eventually becomes ‘fixed,’ and you automatically move toward that which you desire.”
For once we're not talking about breakfast but rather the recovery meal after your workout. “So many women skip post-exercise nutrition because they don’t want to 'undo the calories they just burned,'” says Amanda Carlson-Phillips, vice president of nutrition and research for Athletes’ Performance and Core Performance. “But getting a combination of 10 to 15 grams of protein and 20 to 30 grams of carbohydrates within 30 minutes of your workout will help to refuel your body, promote muscle recovery, amp up your energy, and build a leaner physique.”
It's even more important for older people to stay hydrated. Age can bring a decreased sensitivity to thirst. Moreover, it's sometime harder for those who are feeble to get up and get something to drink. Or sometimes a problem with incontinence creates a hesitancy to drink enough. Those who are aging should make drinking water throughout the day a priority.
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Protein should provide about 15% of a healthy person's daily calories. As a rule of thumb, people of both sexes and any size will do fine with about 60 grams of protein a day. Athletes who have large muscles and work out hard may need 20% more. But even that's not very much; 8 ounces of chicken or 6 ounces of canned tuna, for example, will fit the bill.
All youth need calcium to build peak (maximum) bone mass during their early years of life. Low calcium intake is one important factor in the development of osteoporosis, a disease in which bone density decreases and leads to weak bones and future fractures. Women have a greater risk than men of developing osteoporosis. During adolescence and early adulthood, women should include good food sources of calcium in their diets This is when bone growth is occurring and calcium is being deposited into the bone. This occurs in women until they are 30 to 35 years of age. Women 25 to 50 years of age should have 1,000 mg of calcium each day, while women near or past menopause should have 1,200 mg of calcium daily if they are taking estrogen replacement therapy; otherwise, 1,500 mg per day is recommended. Women older than 65 years of age should have 1,500 mg per day.
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Both your nutritional needs (the food and water) and your metabolism (how fast your body converts food to energy) change at this age. Your metabolism gets slower. Women lose about half a pound of muscle per year starting around the age of 40. That makes losing weight even more difficult. Some of the changes women experience are due to decreased hormones, reduced activity level, and medical conditions.
The best evidence that ALA can protect the heart comes from the Lyon Diet Heart Study, a randomized clinical trial in Europe. It tested the effects of an ALA-enriched Mediterranean diet in 605 patients with coronary artery disease. Over a four-year period, the high-ALA diet produced a 72% reduction in heart attacks and cardiac deaths and a 56% lower risk of dying from any cause (including cancer). The Mediterranean diet differed from the standard Western diet in many respects, but because it contained a special canola oil margarine, the greatest difference was in its ALA content, which was nearly eight times higher in the protective diet.
We only included studies that reported on women's health and nutrition outcomes, and excluded studies that were targeted to women but that reported only on health and nutrition outcomes of children (including birth outcomes). We included outcomes for adolescent girls ages 10–19 y, pregnant and lactating women, nonpregnant and nonlactating women of reproductive age (>19 y), and older women. Studies that described interventions targeting a wider age range of adolescent girls (e.g., ages 8–24 y) were also included but adolescent girls aged >19 y were reported in this review as nonpregnant and nonlactating women of reproductive age. Although many adolescents in low- and middle-income countries are married and bearing children, adolescents (10–19 y) as reported in this review reflect girls who are nonpregnant and nonlactating. The few interventions in low- and middle-income countries that target pregnant and lactating adolescents are reported under pregnant and lactating women. A description of the articles included in this review can be found in Supplemental Table 1.
Calcium is extremely important after menopause when your osteoporosis risk increases. But it’s actually vital to women’s health at every age, particularly while the body is still making bone. For optimal bone health, you need three daily servings of dairy products (for example, eight ounces of milk or yogurt, or one and a half ounces of cheese per serving), which also provide other nutrients, like protein, potassium, magnesium, and zinc. “If you can tolerate dairy, low-fat sources are extremely important,” says Hincman. Besides low-fat or skim milk, try calcium-rich Greek-style yogurt, which supplies twice the protein with less or none of the sugar of traditional yogurt varieties, she says.
There are many well-documented challenges in disentangling empowerment interventions from other interventions with which they are delivered. Empowerment interventions are often integrated into income-generating activities and agricultural extension, and many empowerment approaches are retroactively classified as “nutrition-sensitive” despite a lack of nutrition components in the original intervention designs (5). In addition, many studies are limited in scope and their evaluation of nutrition outcomes (159), and it is difficult to evaluate which dimensions of women's empowerment matter most for nutrition (162). Notably, indicators to quantify women's empowerment are also not used consistently and vary widely between individual studies (158).
Of the few studies evaluating nutrition education interventions for women and adolescent girls who were overweight and obese, many were “facility-based” and involved delivery platforms such as health clinics (13, 22), worksites (30), and schools (26, 27, 29). Delivery platforms targeting women and adolescents who were undernourished similarly involved facility-based settings (13), but also included community outreach (16, 28), home visits, community kitchens (15, 28), and text messaging platforms (32). Such community-based platforms could provide additional opportunities for the delivery of nutrition education interventions addressing overweight, obesity, and associated noncommunicable disease in the future.
Educational interventions most often targeted school-age children and adolescent girls, and there were few examples of programs targeting women of reproductive age (174). The majority of education interventions were delivered in formal school-based settings (174). However, this is a “selective” delivery platform given that not all adolescents attend schools (193). School fees and distance to school are major barriers to school enrollment (174, 194). Educational interventions need to be sensitive to the reasons why girls are not in school, e.g., work, and to the hours and locations that might make education interventions more accessible (193). Nonformal education, alternative education, mobile schools, and literacy programs can target women and girls not in school, although these approaches were less common and not as well evaluated (174). Interventions that target girls who are no longer in school provide valuable examples about how such interventions could be delivered to hard-to-reach groups (182).
In that way it differs from Title Nine, an athletic clothing line that favors “real people” as models, and boasts on its website that its photo shoots are “on-the-fly” affairs with “no makeup kits.” However, all these real people are incredibly fit, and list things like “19 days rafting in the Grand Canyon” under “last adventure” and “first Boston Marathon qualification” under “next proudest accomplishment.”
If you thought texting changed your love life, imagine what it could do for your waistline. When people received motivational text messages promoting exercise and healthy behaviors twice a week (i.e., “Keep in the fridge a Ziploc with washed and precut vegetables 4 quick snack. Add 1 string cheese 4 proteins”), they lost an average of about 3 percent of their body weight in 12 weeks. Participants in the Virginia Commonwealth University study also showed an improvement in eating behaviors, exercise, and nutrition self-efficacy, and reported that the texts helped them adopt these new habits. Find health-minded friends and message each other reminders, or program your phone to send yourself healthy eating tips.
Another major difference between the January covers we picked up: the scantily clad women versus coverboy Mark Wahlberg, who got to keep all of his clothes on. Shields (“Fitter Than Ever At 52!”) and Menounos (“Huge career. New fiancé. Then a brain tumor” right next to the shot of her in a teeny red bikini.) were not so fortunate. Maybe it’s on purpose: Menounos appears happy to show off her huge engagement rock as well as her impossibly flat abs, while Shields has been modeling since she was 11 months old, although hardly in such an unappealing posture as this one.
What is a healthy weight? The answer is different for everyone. But it’s important to know what a healthy weight is for you. Check out our top questions and answers on weight, weight gain, and weight loss. And talk to your doctor or nurse about your weight goals. Women often gain and lose weight differently, so the steps you need to take to lose weight may be different from the steps someone else needs to take.
Nutrition is particularly important when you are pregnant. Weight gain during pregnancy is normal—and it's not just because of the growing fetus; your body is storing fat for lactation. The National Academy of Sciences/Institute of Medicine (NAS/IOM) has determined that a gain of 25 to 35 pounds is desirable. However, underweight women should gain about 28 to 40 pounds, and overweight women should gain at least 15 pounds. The IOM has not given a recommendation for an upper limit for obese women, but some experts cap it as low as 13 pounds. If you fit into this category, discuss how much weight you should gain with your health care professional. Remember that pregnancy isn't the time to diet. Caloric restriction during pregnancy has been associated with reduced birth weight, which can be dangerous to the baby.
Our findings identified gaps and limitations in the evaluation, scope, targeting, and delivery platforms of nutrition interventions in low- and middle-income countries. First, the monitoring and evaluation of nutrition programs that reported on women's nutrition outcomes was generally inadequate. Many of the studies we identified included small-scale efficacy trials. Although there were many large-scale programs that targeted women and adolescent girls with nutrition-specific and nutrition-sensitive approaches, they lacked rigorous evaluation. Whether the evidence about women's outcomes was limited because they are not systematically measured or because they are not well reported is not clear. Negative results are often not published, and many evaluations of nutrition interventions that are conducted by the same groups responsible for implementing them are typically presented positively. This may have also skewed our findings. More intentional research-quality program evaluation, including of large-scale programs, would provide a stronger evidence base. Of the studies identified in this review, many reported on short-term findings such as changes in knowledge, dietary behaviors, and program coverage. They were limited in their ability to report clinical and anthropometric outcomes for women, the duration of those outcomes, and the feasibility of scaling up programs. There is also a need for systematic, long-term evaluations of interventions whose effects on nutrition outcomes are more distal (e.g., nutrition education compared with micronutrient supplementation). The effects of multisectoral interventions are even more complex to measure. However, frameworks exist to evaluate complex interventions (102) and could be utilized to evaluate the impact of interventions across the life course.
Women who seek out a women's only club are usually looking for something different. They want the privacy of an all-women environment. They also want the attention they get from women who understand the unique fitness needs of other women and are especially patient and understanding with those who haven't had much experience with fitness in their lives.
Although canola oil appears to be good for the cardiovascular system, two Harvard studies have raised concerns that ALA might be bad for the prostate. In 1993, the Health Professionals Follow-up Study of 47,781 men published a major evaluation of dietary fat and prostate cancer. It found that saturated fat from animal sources such as red meat and whole-fat dairy products was linked to a 2.6-fold increase in prostate cancer. But the study also provided some disquieting news about ALA: Men who consumed the most ALA were 3.4 times more likely to be diagnosed with prostate cancer than those who had the lowest dietary intake.
A workout partner not only keeps you accountable, she also may help you clock more time at the gym and torch more fat. A British survey of 1,000 women found that those who exercise with others tend to train six minutes longer and burn an extra 41 calories per session compared to solo fitness fanatics. [Tweet this fact!] Women with Bikram buddies and CrossFit comrades said they push themselves harder and are more motivated than when they hit the gym alone.
Home visits ↓ anemia, ↑ Hgb, ↑ food consumption, ↑ weight gain (underweight adolescents), NC mortality, ↓ fatigue ↓ anemia, ↑ serum folate, ↑ serum B-12, NC mortality, NC depression ↓ anemia, ↑ MN status (Hgb, ferritin, folate, B-12, zinc, riboflavin), ↑/NC serum retinol, ↓/NC night blindness, ↑ weight gain, NC maternal mortality, NC depression
A 45-year-old woman who gets less than 30 minutes of daily physical activity in addition to her normal routine should consume six ounce of grains; two and a half cups of vegetables; one and a half cups of fruit; three cups of milk; five ounces of meat and/or beans; five teaspoons of oil; and just 195 calories of additional fat and sugar. With a higher level of daily activity (30 to 60 minutes), this woman would be able to consume a little more in certain food groups: her fruit intake could rise to two cups; meat and beans to five and a half ounces; oils to six teaspoons; and extra fat and sugar to 265 calories.
Although creating financial incentives to lose weight isn't a new idea, now we know cashing in to stay motivated works long-term. In the longest study yet on this topic, Mayo Clinic researchers weighed 100 people monthly for one year, offering half the group $20 per pound lost plus a $20 penalty for every pound gained. Those in the monetary group dropped an average of nine pounds by the end of the year, while non-paid participants shed about two pounds. If you’re ready to gamble away weight, consider sites such as Healthywage, FatBet, or stickK.
For example, these magazines may want to look at one of their likely advertisers, Athleta. The clothing line that specializes in stretchy yoga wear came under fire last year when it had decidedly non-plus-size models display the line’s plus-size clothing. Athleta followed up an apologetic statement by adding some non-“straight-size” non-supermodels to its latest clothing line, and receiving accolades from catalogue readers on Twitter.
A BMI of 25 to 29.9 is considered overweight and one 30 or above is considered obese. For an idea of what this means, a 5-foot 5-inch woman who weighs 150 pounds is overweight with a BMI of 25. At 180 pounds, she would be considered obese, with a BMI of 30. Keep in mind that the tables aren't always accurate, especially if you have a high muscle mass; are pregnant, nursing, frail or elderly; or if you are a teenager (i.e., still growing).
Oaks BM, Young RR, Adu-Afarwuah S, Ashorn U, Jackson KH, Lartey A, Maleta K, Okronipa H, Sadalaki J, Baldiviez LM et al. Effects of a lipid-based nutrient supplement during pregnancy and lactation on maternal plasma fatty acid status and lipid profile: results of two randomized controlled trials. Prostaglandins Leukot Essent Fatty Acids 2017;117:28–35.
Infrastructure ↓ water point distance, ↑ time savings, ↑/NC women's hygiene, ↑/NC water quality, ↓/NC diarrheal morbidity, ↓ intestinal parasite prevalence, ↑ school attendance, NC wage employment ↓ water point distance, ↑ time savings, ↑/NC women's hygiene, ↑/NC water quality, ↓/NC diarrheal morbidity, ↓ intestinal parasite prevalence, NC wage employment, ↑ participation in income-generating activities ↓ maternal mortality, ↓ water point distance, ↑ time savings, ↑/NC women's hygiene, ↑/NC water quality, ↓/NC diarrheal morbidity, ↓ intestinal parasite prevalence, NC wage employment, ↑ participation in income-generating activities ↓ water point distance, ↑ time savings, ↑/NC women's hygiene, ↑/NC water quality, ↓/NC diarrheal morbidity, ↓ intestinal parasite prevalence, NC wage employment, ↑ participation in income-generating activities
Iron: Iron, too, remains a critical nutrient. Adult women between the ages of 19 and 50 need 18 mg a day. Pregnant women should shoot for 27 mg a day. “The volume of blood almost doubles when women are pregnant, which dramatically increases the demand for iron,” Schwartz tells WebMD. After delivery, lactating women need far less iron, only about 9 mg, because they are no longer menstruating. But as soon as women stop breast-feeding, they should return to 18 mg a day.
“The reason most people don't see changes isn't because they don't work hard—it's because they don't make their workouts harder,” says Adam Bornstein, founder of Born Fitness. His suggestion: Create a challenge every time you exercise. “Use a little more weight, rest five to 10 seconds less between sets, add a few more reps, or do another set. Incorporating these small variations into your routine is a recipe for change,” he says.
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The Governor-Generals' Blog archive
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Secondary School Holidays
Dame Patsy has had a couple of opportunities to meet some of our most talented rangatahi during the school holidays.
Last week, she caught up with the New Zealand Secondary Students' Choir and this morning she opened Youth Parliamant 2019.
Leaders of public sector agencies, NGOs and the private sector have come together as partners to form the Aotearoa Circle, which will address critical sustainability issues in Aotearoa New Zealand.
Diversity dinner
Three inspiring speakers, expressing three very different perspectives on the topics of diversity and inclusion captivated tonight's guests at a dinner in celebration of diversity in 21st century New Zealand.
Halberg Foundation Youth Council
Dame Patsy and Sir David hosted the members of the Halberg Foundation Youth Council at a morning tea at Government House in Wellington.
"I stand as one.
Swearing-in of a new Minister
Dame Patsy officiated at the swearing-in of new Minister, Hon Poto Williams at Government House in Wellington. Minister Williams is the Minister for the Community and Voluntary Sector and is also Associate Minister for Greater Christchurch Regenera
Quadrangular Tournament Schools' Visit
Rugby players taking part in the 93rd Quadrangular Tournament visited Government House today.
Dark Skies Experience opening and Mt John Observatory
Dame Patsy was on ribbon-cutting duties at the new Dark Sky Experience attraction in Takapō.
Visit to Okains Bay Museum
Okains Bay Museum is located in a remote bay on Banks Peninsula.
Visit to Linwood Islamic Centre
This morning Dame Patsy received a warm welcome at the Linwood Islamic Centre, where she met members of Christchurch's Muslim community.
Credentials Ceremony 27 June 2019
Three new diplomatic envoys presented their credentials to Dame Patsy this morning: HE Mr Mark Holowesko, the High Commissioner of the Commonwealth of the Bahamas; HE Archbishop Novatus Rugambwa, the Apostolic Nuncio; and HE Professor Joyce Kakuramatsi
New Zealand Youth Awards 2019
Fourteen young New Zealanders have been chosen from their peers to receive this year's New Zealand Youth Awards.
Invitations closed for June, July, August and September
We're heading into the busiest part of the year and the Governor-General's diary is looking very full. Regrettably we cannot accept any more invitations for June, July, August and September 2019.
Order of St John Investiture Ceremony, 16 June 2019
On 15 June, Dame Patsy and Sir David attended an investiture ceremony for St John postulants at the Cathedral of St Paul's in Wellington. Dame Patsy is Prior of the Order in New Zealand.
Red Cross "Taste of Cultures" dinner
Dame Patsy and Sir David hosted a fundraising dinner for the Red Cross to mark World Refugee Day.
Every year in New Zealand, one in three girls, one in six boys and one in two disabled people experience some form of sexual abuse. For Maori girls and women, the likelihood of sexual violence is twice as high as the general population.
A visit to Zealandia
Dame Patsy and Sir David visited Zealandia, an eco-sanctuary in the suburb of Karori in Wellington. Zealandia's 500-year vision is to restore a Wellington valley’s forest and freshwater ecosystems to their pre-human state.
Official Opening of Iqra Elementary School
Members of the Muslim community celebrated the official opening of Iqra Elementary School's new premises in Auckland today. We were impressed by the children's and staff's use of English, Te Reo Maori and Arabic.
Spend My Super Launch
Sir David stood in for Dame Patsy at the launch of not for profit organisation Spend My Super at Government House in Auckland this evening.
D-Day 75th anniversary commemorations
Dame Patsy represented New Zealand at the commemorations for the 75th anniversary of D-Day at Portsmouth in the United Kingdom. As well as attending the official ceremony, she had the opportunity to meet with leaders of 15 other nations a
Otago 150 Commemorations
Otago University, our oldest university, is celebrating 150 years this year. It took just 29 years from the arrival of the first Scots settlers till the University was opened in 1869.
Te Runanga o Otakou Marae
Te Runanga o Otakou Marae is situated in a spectacular setting near the mouth of Otago Harbour. It was there that two Ngai Tahu chiefs signed Te Tiriti o Waitangi in June 1840.
Dunedin visit: Tuhura, Otago Museum, and the Royal Albatross Centre
Protection of the natural world and innovative research was a strong theme in today's visits to the Otago Museum and the Royal Albatross Centre at Taiaroa Head.
Christchurch visit
Dame Patsy and Sir David visited Christchurch on Wednesday.
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Dame Patsy spoke at and presented the prizes at the New Zealand School's Debating Championships Grand Final at Parliament today.
Jane Goodall Institute of New Zealand Reception
Dame Pasty and Sir David hosted a reception for the Jane Goodall Institute at Government House.
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Congratulations to the recipients who received their insignia at Government House in Auckland today. Recipients included Jennifer Ward-Lealand for services to theatre, film and television; our Poet Laureate Selina Tusitala Marsh for servi
Investiture Ceremonies, 20 May 2019
Today there were two investiture ceremonies at Government House Auckland. The first was for The Rt Hon Dame Helen Winkelmann, the Chief Justice of New Zealand.
Auckland Grammar 150th Commemorations
Yesterday, Dame Patsy and Sir David attended two of Auckland Grammar's 27 events to mark the school's first 150 years.
St Cuthbert's scholars assembly
Today it seemed like all the students at St Cuthbert's turned out to welcome Dame Patsy when she arrived at the school.
Investiture Auckland Thursday 16 May 2019
Congratulations to all today's recipients for their work in human rights, design and business, rugby and rugby league, the LGBTIQ+ community, fashion, Cook Islands art and culture, athletics, and education.
Auckland Investitures Wed 15 May
Two more investiture ceremonies were held at Government House today.
The morning saw the arts, sport and science mix together with Dame Gaylene Preston, Dan Carter, Lydia Ko, Barbara Kendall and Glen Ashby receiving their insignia.
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How Do Squirrels Remember Where They Buried Their Nuts?
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By a_akentieva On Nov 19, 2018 3 0
Few things symbolize the onset of fall quite so well as the sight of a squirrel scampering around a park, industriously burying nuts. As the weather cools and the leaves turn, squirrels engage in this frantic behavior to prepare for the upcoming shortages of wintertime.
But have you ever wondered how effective the squirrel’s outdoor pantry project could really be? After going to all that effort to conceal its winter stash, how does the squirrel actually find the buried treasure again, when it’s needed most?
First, let’s backtrack slightly, because the way that squirrels bury their food yields some interesting clues. Animals that store food to survive the winter don’t just do so randomly: They typically use one of two strategies. Either they larder-hoard — meaning they store all their food in one place — or they scatter-hoard — meaning they split up their bounty and stash it in many different locations.
Most squirrel species are scatter-hoarders — hence the characteristic dashing they do between different piles of buried food. “This style of food storing probably evolved because it reduces the risk of suffering a major loss,” said Mikel Maria Delgado, a postdoctoral fellow at the School of Veterinary Medicine at the University of California, Davis, who has studied squirrel behavior for severalyears. In other words, the more widely dispersed the food, the lower the risk that a hungry competitor will discover the squirrel’s entire supply and destroy it in one go.
In recent research published in the journal Royal Society Open Science, Delgado showed that squirrels will arrange and bury their stash according to certain traits, such as the type of nut. This is known as “chunking,” and research shows that in other species, such behavior allows animals to mentally organize their hoard, which may help them remember where it is later on.
That banishes any idea that squirrels are haphazardly chucking bits of food down holes in the ground, and simply hoping to stumble across it later. “I think the body of research about how squirrels handle and bury food clearly demonstrates that their behavior is not random,” Delgado told Live Science. On the contrary, there appears to be a meticulous strategy behind the way they store food.
How does that translate into how they find their artfully concealed stash? Depending on the squirrel species and the type of nut, squirrels are generally able to retrieve up to 95percentof their buried food, research shows. So there’s clearly more than chance behind this process.
It was long believed that squirrels simply relied on their sense of smell to find their food. But while smell definitely comes into it, a growing body of research suggests that memory plays a much more crucial role.
A seminal 1991 research paper published in the journal Animal Behavior showed that even when multiple grey squirrels (Sciurus carolinensis) bury their stash in close proximity to one another, individuals of this species will remember and return to the precise locations of their personal cache. This is echoed by multiple other studies, showing that the squirrels’ spatial memory helps them map out the territory around them to find their food. Under certain conditions — like when their nuts are buried under snow — a sense of smell won’t alwaysbe effective in helping them find food. So, it makes sense that squirrels couldbe relying on other cues.
“While scatter-hoarding squirrels probably also use their sense of smell to locate caches, they do remember their caches. We don’t know the exact mechanisms, but it probably includes spatial cues in the environment,” Delgado told Live Science.
Pizza Ka Yee Chow, a postdoctoral research fellow at Hokkaido University in Japan, who studies squirrel cognition, agrees. “From my own observation, I think they are using landmarks. They recognize the trees, and they are gauging the distance between themselves, the tree and their own nests,” she said.
The organizational chunking behavior, which Delgado identified for the first time in squirrels, may also function to provide memorable cues about the food they’re burying. This tactic could “decrease memory load,” helping squirrels recall where they put it, Delgado wrote in the Royal Society Open Science study. “No one has directly tested what the potential benefits of chunking would be for squirrels, but we anticipate it might aid in future retrieval of caches,” she said.
Researchers have observed that when squirrels scatter-hoard in confined areas, they also seem to be able to remember the location of their caches in relation to one another, suggesting that they build a detailed mental map of where their food lies.
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Beyonce is a busy lady. She acts in films like "Dreamgirls" and "Obsessed," she belts out empowering anthems like "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)" and "Irreplaceable," and she stays calm when she gets caught in feuds involving Kanye West and Taylor Swift. No wonder her alter ego is Sasha Fierce.
But even though this whirlwind life of performing and being married to Jay-Z might cause other women's skin to break out, Beyonce maintains her lovely skin. In 2009, she told "The Mirror" some of her beauty secrets, which include drinking lots of water, monthly facials and steaming sessions [source: RnB Music Blog]. She also eats a simple, healthy diet that includes bran cereal, salads, fish and lots of fruits and vegetables. Beyonce's beauty regimen seems to work; her complexion is so well-known that cosmetics company L'Oreal drew criticism after lightening it in one of their ads [source: Rajan].
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Timber: the best choice for sustainability
As architects, we are legally bound to produce sustainable buildings, which is absolutely as it should be, says Director of Circa Morris-Nunn Architects, Robert Morris-Nunn. And according to Robert, Timber is one of the best choices for sustainability.
“All of our projects try to push sustainability to the forefront as much as we can. So, using materials that are of their very nature sustainable, is a very important part of that for us.
“The very fact that timber grows, and regenerates is a great plus. It is a living product, which is a locally available resource, and something that is unique.
“Timber also brings authenticity of place to a project, and part of belonging to a place is to use the products of that place.”
Circa Morris-Nunn use timber in practically every project that they’re involved in.
“The fact that it is a warm, living material means that people relate to it. In places where people are under stress, like medical institutions, it looks humane compared to other “antiseptic” alternatives,” says Robert.
Robert’s role is to create opportunities for projects, showcasing what’s possible, particularly in high quality tourism developments, as well as instigating the ideas, to make developments happen that otherwise wouldn’t happen.
“One of the things that is important to me, and it has started to come through in international forums, is an opportunity to use cross laminated timber in conjunction with steel as a viable alternative to reinforced concrete. I’d like to use that more and more in different projects.
“I am a firm believer that the use of quality hardwood in conjunction with fairly limited amounts of steel can actually produce very robust, intelligent, innovative structures.
“For me the hardwood of choice because it is grown here, and because it’s a very nice material to use, is Tasmanian Oak. We use it for a decorative timber in buildings as much as we can. Other Tasmanian timbers that are scarcer, get used as veneers. We’re also very happy to use old timber.”
Robert says there is a wide range of timbers here for them to use, from hardwoods to softwoods, and they wouldn’t go anywhere else for timber unless they really had to.
Circa Morris-Nunn Architects’ niche is creating projects that speak of “this particular place.” To honour the stories that are here and what people believe are unique attributes of Tasmania.
“That’s the reason why people come to us. If you think of Tasmania, it is the quality timbers that are here. And they should be used. They are not used nearly enough. They speak of this place like nothing else.”
Circa Morris-Nunn have worked on a number of high profile and award-winning projects in Tasmania such as the Henry Jones Art Hotel, The Islington Hotel, Nant Mill Distillery, Landscape Restaurant, Peacock and Jones Restaurant, Aloft Restaurant, Saffire Resort, Port Arthur Resort, Brooke Street Pier, and Mountain Retreat Medical.
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UCAS Code: W640 Credit Level: 5 Credit Value: 240 Course Start Date: September Course Duration: 2 Years Full Time
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About the FdA Photography programme
Photography is an exciting, historically important and culturally significant medium. Our FdA Photography programme is designed to appeal to anyone with an enthusiasm for photography. The course aims to balance study of commercial photography with an exploration of the broader importance of photography in documenting the world around us – and its significance as a form of personal expression – in non-commercial genres such as documentary, fine art or street photography.
The course thus balances a consideration of the commercial potential of photography with the important role photography plays as a means of personal and cultural expression. Whilst the commercial element within photographic practice is undeniably important, the medium’s potential to document and explore society, and to allow individuals to express themselves creatively, is equally important – and since its origins, the history of photography has been dominated by this tension between the industrial / commercial and corporate application of photographic practice and extension of photographic practice by vernacular, documentary and fine art forms and practitioners. The degree will provide you with experience of working in commercial genres such as advertising and industrial photography, whilst also giving you the opportunity to explore the worlds of fine art, street and documentary photography. In addition, you will have the opportunity of studying the history of photography, and examining the work of important and contemporary photographers.
The degree is welcoming to people from all backgrounds, both traditional progressors and those returning to education as mature students. Entrants onto our degree level photography provision have in the past come from many different backgrounds: you may simply be an enthusiastic amateur, or you may already work as a photographer. However, regardless of your background, whether you are intending on pursuing a career within commercial photography, establishing your own business or seeking work as a freelancer, our course aims to build on your enthusiasm for the subject, giving you confidence in your abilities whilst providing you with the knowledge and skills necessary to practice or study photography at a higher level.
During your time on the course, you will be given the opportunity of working with both analogue (film-based) and digital formats, and you will be able to practise using our equipment – including our studio and darkroom facilities. During your second year, you will be asked to design, plan and produce your own extended independent project, which you will self-publish, giving you something which can be used to help market yourself as a photographer upon completing the degree.
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Full course specification
Applicants will require 80 UCAS points. However, in line with the widening participation brief and lifelong learning strategy, the Institute will also encourage applications from non-traditional learners who lack formal academic qualifications. All such non-traditional applicants will be interviewed, given a short-term photography-related exercise to complete and asked to submit a short essay; these tasks are intended to assess the applicant’s abilities both technically and academically. The submitted work will be judged, taking into account the applicant’s academic potential and relevant experience.
Year 1 (Level 4) Certificate Stage
Photography Skills and Studio Skills
Understanding Photographs
Digital Workflow Systems
Reportage: Photojournalism and Press Photography
The History of Photography
Study Skills and Employability
You will be introduced to the core skills and key concepts whilst allowing you the freedom to find your own approach within whatever types of photography interest you. You will be introduced to equipment and given the opportunity to practice using is. In turn you will be provided with a comprehension of how photographs ‘work’ in communicating meaning to their audiences. You will learn how to use modern professional software to manage, manipulate and archive photographs. Alongside all of the subject specific skills you will be introduced to the skills you need to succeed in your academic studies whilst also reflecting on some of the context in which photographers work.
Year 2 (Level 5) Foundation Stage
Advertising and Industrial Photography
The Camera as Storyteller: Documentary and Street Photography
Authorship in Photography
Simulating a Commercial Context: Working to a Live Brief
Critical and Conceptual Practice: Self-directed Project
Representation and Audience
These modules are designed to provide you with a balance of practising photography within commercial genres against exploring the potential for non-commercial genres to extend the boundaries of photography.
Learning & Teaching Methods
Delivery will be predominantly via seminars and workshops intended to provide you with a space in which the practice your photography skills and comprehension of issues, with some lectures designed to introduce new concepts. Some modules will require you to complete learning tasks in your own time, outside of scheduled classes. In the second year of study, you will be expected to display an increasing sense of ownership over your own work, culminating in a project which is entirely of your own devising and utterly self-directed.
Assessment on the programme will be via the production of both individual photographs and sequences of images, including photo essays. Some modules will expect you to work towards a simulated ‘live brief’. Other modules will give you the freedom to select your own topic or issue and produce work which you will then be required to self-publish and submit in the form of a book. Alongside these methods of assessment, you will be asked to complete traditional academic assessments in the form of essays, both short- and long-form.
The Institute therefore has both a committed and experienced course team and the resources needed to deliver the course successfully. The new FdA in Photography provides students with experience of working in a variety of genres of photography, both commercial and non-commercial, whilst building confidence with equipment and key concepts. The programme is designed to appeal equally to students interested in pursuing a career in commercial photography and those who are interested in photography as a means of cultural and personal expression, or who would like to practice documentary or fine art photography. Upon completion of the independent project in the second year of the course, you will have self-published your work and will therefore have something with which to market your skills as a photographer when you graduate from the programme.
Upon completion of the degree, you may progress on to a Level 6 ‘top-up’ programme giving you a degree in photography. From here, you may continue on to studying photography at postgraduate level, or progress on to a teaching qualification such as a PGCE.
Alternatively, you may leave the programme and seek work as a commercial photographer, working in the employ of a company or as a freelancer. You may also wish to set up your own business, working directly with clients as a portrait, wedding or events photographer, or you may seek work as a photojournalist.
You may continue to practise your photography as a fine art or documentary photographer, distributing your work via galleries or publications.
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to facilitate an appreciation of the importance of photography both as a medium of cultural and personal expression and as a form with a commercial and artistic application;to provide a forum in which students may develop the technical skills needed to practice photography as a means of both personal and cultural expression and within a commercial context;to highlight the manner in which photography may be used to document the world around us and the complications that arise from this, enabling students to contextualise their own photographic practice;to foster a comprehension of the history of photography and how photography as a medium has been impacted on by social and cultural developments, relating this to the student’s own practice of the medium of photography;to enable the development of transferable skills of critical thinking, problem-solving, analysis and evaluation, visual judgement, and self-reflexivity and independence of thought, emphasising employability and skills that are both valued by employers and which underpin progression to study at honours and postgraduate level.Although we hold a stock of photographic equipment – both digital and analogue, full-frame and medium format – and you will have access to our studio and darkroom facilities, naturally access to your own camera equipment (film or digital) will be of benefit to you. Equally, though our library is well-stocked, there may be situations in which you will find it beneficial to purchase books on the reading list.In the final semester of Level 5, you will be required to self-publish your independent project in the form of a book. Costs for this will, of course, depend on the size of the project and the company you choose to use, but in most cases this will not exceed £50.
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Home G Style Gaming Fortnite Battle Royale Brings Back an Improved 50v50 Mode
Fortnite Battle Royale Brings Back an Improved 50v50 Mode
I’ll be the first to say I stink at Fortnite Battle Royale. Maybe it’s my age or just the type of game it is, but I can not compete against a lot of these younger players who are incredibility monstrous in this game. With that said, I can’t deny the immense popularity of this game and how it’s taken the gaming world by storm. I also can’t deny the developer support on Fortnite and how Epic Games is trying to make this the best game they can by constantly pushing out updates and game modes.
For those who enjoyed the original 50v50 mode when it was out, the popular limited time mode, is back with improvements in Fortnite Battle Royale! In this new version, each team has a bus that approaches from opposite directions of the map. On the map, the friendly bus has a blue outline, and the enemy has red. The final storm circle is visible on the mini-map from the start and players are given 10 minutes to loot the map as the storm closes in on the circle, then five minutes to fight, and another five minutes as the storm shrinks to the end.
Supply drops come in batches of 3-6, fall every two minutes, and only land in the final storm circle. A dotted line has been been added to the map to indicate “battle lines” between the two teams. While players can cross the line, this will make running into enemies more likely! Other tweaks have been made, including increases to resource gathering, item spawns, ammo, and more.
Players can also earn double the XP from Thursday, April 19 until Sunday, April 22. The improved 50v50 mode is available now!
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Home | Film Reviews | Film Review: Madhouse (2004)
Film Review: Madhouse (2004)
Dan Caps 12/04/2018 Film Reviews
A young psychiatric intern unearths secrets about the mental health facility in which he works.
Director: William Butler
Writers: William Butler, Aaron Strongoni
Stars: Joshua Leonard, Jordan Ladd, Natasha Lyonne, Lance Henriksen
Madhouse is a horror/thriller which straddles the fine line between cliché and, er, non-cliché. Utilizing a cast of horror regulars, Director, William Butler (Gingerdead series, Disney Game On) does a pretty solid job with a pretty ho-hum script.
Young and hopeful psychiatric intern, Clark Stevens (played by Joshua Leonard), heads to Cunningham Hall, a madhouse run by the cold and mysterious Dr. Franks (Lance Henriksen). Clark has a can do attitude, and the worst hairstyle ever to be donned by anybody other than electrocution victims, something that doesn’t rub well with Dr. Franks who seems happy with the fact that he doesn’t want to fix his patients, just “maintain” them.
Clark acquaints himself with your usual crew of crazies, from your delightfully quirky patients, through to the shit smearing sickos kept in the basement area of the madhouse, complete with door view-hole glass that the patients can easily shatter and use as a weapon… OH&S is not paramount down there… Taking care of these patients are your usual crew of staff, from the quirky doctor, to the ball breaking head nurse and the resident sicko guard who belongs in the madhouse more than most of the patients taking residence.
Soon after Clark’s arrival the murders start and no one is safe. Staff and patients alike are being slain, and with red herrings plentiful, it’s up to Clark and cute nurse Sara (Jordan Ladd) to figure out who, or what, is behind the killings. Could it be Dr. Franks? Or maybe the ghostly child Clark and some patients see roaming the halls? Perhaps it’s the sicko guard? Or maybe one of the patients? Could it be Sara who suffers mild schizophrenia and takes medication for it? Or could it even be Clark himself? OR could it be—Just kidding, but that’s a lot of red herrings, isn’t it?
Madhouse is a very professional effort with direction, camera and sound work far superior than its straight-to-DVD counterparts. I was particularly excited by the intro hook, which involved quick cuts, strange sounds and disturbingly awesome imagery that had me hooked and excited to see the rest of the film. It’s a pity the rest of Madhouse didn’t live up to this.
Acting wise, bar Joshua’s monotone, unemotional delivery, was top notch. These actors are all professionals and it showed. They brought the script up a few rungs. If lesser actors were used, this would have been a laughable effort.
I know I touched on this earlier, but I feel the urge to elaborate further on the atrocity that was Joshua’s hairstyle in this film. Having looked at other photos of Joshua on the interwebs, I sympathize with the hairstylist. There was nothing they could have done to make his hair acceptable in any way…
Story-wise, it dragged on to me. Clark was an uninteresting character, so I wasn’t invested in his story or struggle. I was more perplexed by his hairstyle than anything else… that and the transvestite sicko in the basement. Kudos to the actor playing that character, he did a fantastic job.
My main bugbear: There were just too many red herrings and they weren’t fleshed out enough. Most were revealed off-handed, with no effort from Clark to solve them. To me, that’s weak, redundant writing. Our protagonist needs to reveal the red herrings. At the very least, a character needs to reveal them. They should never be revealed just as a matter of fact to progress the story. The protagonist should be active in eliminating them one by one as this makes the story more engaging, makes the protagonist more engaging and makes the viewer more invested. Throw in a few plot holes and you have a pretty mundane script in my eyes. The (tame) sex scene and subsequent death of a particular doctor is a worthy mention of plot hole shenanigans…
Madhouse is by no means a crap film. It’s serviceable and will actually entertain regular folk who don’t look into the mechanics of storytelling. For me though, Madhouse was a rather dull affair with nothing new brought to the table, a protagonist that was leaden and un-investible, and an unsatisfying ending that didn’t elicit the shock it tried hard to stimulate through its dull twist.
2.5 out of 5 sh*t-smearing sickos
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I remember enjoying Madhouse quite a bit. I’d rank it as above average.
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The New Madalin House
Exterior of the New Madalin House. The original building burned during the week of the Hudson-Fulton Celebration in 1909. Caption attached to postcard reads: "This hotel was built in 1910 by Harry Hoffman, brother of John and Theodore. In 1915...
General stores; Liquor stores
Dino's Department Store and Tivoli Liquor Store storefront on corner of Broadway and Montgomery St.; now Santa Fe Restaurant.
Player Piano Shop
The back of this photograph identifies this as : "Inside of Larry's Piano Shop". The image looks considerably older than it is : in the 1970s, Larry Broadmoore repaired and sold player pianos in a small building on Broadway, historically a...
"Vic" the Butcher
"Victor Salladin", verso of photograph. Long time residents still remember Vic's Village Variety as a place to buy fresh meats, breads, and general grocery items, and Vic himself as a warm proprietor never too busy to show kindess to children. ...
Nan Wilkin
Portrait photographs; Banks;photographs
Photograph of young Nan Wilkin on Main Street in downtown Chester, with old Chester National Bank building in the background. She married Vince Gallo and operated Gallo's Cozy Corner Restaurant in West Chester for 26 years until her retirement in...
Gallo's Cozy Corner Restaurant and Bar Thermometer
Photography; Thermometers; Advertisements; Bars; Restaurants
Advertising thermometer for Gallo's Cozy Corner Restaurant and Bar which was located at the intersection of Routes 17M & 94. Now, in 2007, the site is occupied a Rite Aid drug store and it is now the intersection of Route 17M (Brookside Ave.) and...
Capitol Restaurant & Cafeteria Matchbook
Matchcovers; Illustrations; Eating & drinking facilities; Automobile service stations;
An unstruck matchbook cover, advertising The Capitol Restaurant & Cafeteria on the state road between Monroe & Chester New York.
LaFayette Lodge, Orr's Mills Road, Cornwall, N. Y.
Postcards; Architecture; Entertainment; Nature; Restaurants;
Restaurant on Orr's Mills Road, west of Cornwall, New York. Used for catering large gatherings.
La Palina Hotel & Restaurant
Recreation; Swimming pools; Restaurants; Resorts;
A hotel and restaurant on Continental Road in Cornwall, New York. It advertised Italian cuisine, dancing and movies. It was open all year.
Escoffier Restaurant menu
Escoffier Restaurant (Hyde Park, N.Y.)
Menu for the Escoffier Restaurant at the Culinary Institute of America, Hyde Park, New York.
Escoffier Restaurant, dinner menu
Dinner menu for the Escoffier Restaurant at the Culinary Institute of America, Hyde Park, New York, July 1987.
Escoffier Restaurant, lunch menu
Lunch menu for the Escoffier Restaurant at the Culinary Institute of America, Hyde Park, New York, June 1987.
Jacob Rosenthal: The Dinner of his decade, 1965-1975, The Culinary Institute of America, Restaurant Lutece menu
Restaurant Lutece (New York, N.Y.)
Menu for a retirement dinner held in honor of Jacob Rosenthal hosted by The Culinary Institute of America at the Restaurant Lutece in New York City, June 26, 1974.
Escoffier Room, the Rabelais Bar & Cafe, dinner menu
Escoffier Room (Rabelais Bar & Cafe : Hyde Park, N.Y.)
Dinner menu for the Escoffier Restaurant, The Rabelais Bar & Cafe at the Culinary Institute of America, Hyde Park, New York.
Caterina de Medici Gourmet Society, Sicilian banquet, Capriccio Restaurant menu
Capriccio Restaurant (Jericho, N.Y.)
Menu for a Sicilian banquet held by the Caterina de Medici Gourmet Society at Capriccio Restaurant, Jericho, Long Island, New York, March 26, 1972.
Caterina de Medici menu
Caterina de Medici (Restaurant : Hyde Park, N.Y.)
Menu for the Caterina de Medici restaurant at the Culinary Institute of America, Hyde Park, New York.
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Jagged Alliance is back – With a new take on turn-based tactics, adventure elements and the well-known quirky mercenaries!
Set 20 years after the first Jagged Alliance, this spin-off lets you experience a road trip into a jungle hell to test your mind and body to the limits!
This time it’s just you and a few allies versus an entire island ruled by a drug overlord and his crazed army.
Constantly on the brink of breakdown, faced with dehydration and no support from home, you lead a team of seasoned mercenaries against vastly outnumbering armed forces.
Use tactical brilliance and guerilla tactics to destroy their structures and strengthen the island’s population to take back what is rightfully theirs.
Do you have what it takes to rise to old glory?
2 Player online co-op mode
Deep turn-based tactical gameplay mixed with adventure elements
Choose a variety of tactics ranging from stealth to brute force
Strong character personalities with own skills, desires and personal conflicts
Rage skills: Unique character abilities that get more powerful over the course of the battle
Powerful Commanders coordinate enemy troops on the battlefields
Face terrifying experimental drugs and use them to manipulate your enemies
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FRIDAY 8.30PM 15th SEPTEMBER – AKMAL WITH UMIT BALI AND JULIA WILSON PLUS THREE SPECIAL GUEST COMEDIANS
Home/FRIDAY 8.30PM 15th SEPTEMBER – AKMAL WITH UMIT BALI AND JULIA WILSON PLUS THREE SPECIAL GUEST COMEDIANS
AKMAL! A true pleasure to have on of Australia’s favourite comedians in the intimate Happy Endings Comedy Club.
You’ve seen him in Movies, Sketch, Stand-Up, TV appearances, radio DJ and talk show host, improvisation and a published author, Akmal is one of Australia’s most respected, successful and accomplished comics, come watch him knock out some brand new material for your laughing pleasure.
Akmal has a fascinating past. Originally immigrating to Australia from Egypt with his family nearly 30 years ago. He sums it up in his own inimitable style – “My parents didn’t tell us where we were going. We thought it was two hours away. Twenty hours later, we got off a plane and we were on another planet”. This, and many other bizarre incidents dot Akmal’s life – suggesting a career in stand-up comedy was pre-ordained, either that or he should have been committed early on
He has appeared at Festivals all around the world including Adelaide Fringe Comedy Festival and Melbourne Comedy Festivals, Montreal ‘Just For Laughs’ Festival, Vancouver Comedy Festival, New Zealand Comedy Festival, Sydney Comedy festival and the Edinburgh Fringe Festival.
Akmal’s strength is his stream-of-consciousness ramblings and his interaction with the audience” The Age, Melbourne
“The Egyptian – born Saleh has a quick wit and extremely warm persona on stage, his informal banter with the audience makes you feel immediately at ease.” Sydney Morning Herald
“Saleh’s acutely observed look at life in the low-income, new Australian bracket was a hilarious delight, charmed the socks off the crowd.” Telegraph Mirror
“(Akmal) is an explosion of laughter and entertainment.” Telegraph Mirror
The pace of skits is furious and the element of surprise great” Sydney Morning Herald
“People were rocking back & forth, holding in their stomachs and shouting out with laughter” The Advertiser
With Umit Bali With an exhilarating collection of oddball characters and anecdotes, Umit is one of Sydney’s most entertaining new comedians. “Packed with fast-paced humour and slices of life that are often just plain tragic, Bali’s high-energy stage presence is as entertaining as it is inspiring” – The West Austr
And Julia Wilson, described by many as the toughest woman in comedy, Julia tours the world with her dubious morals, having plenty of seriously dangerous fun along the way!
Whether it’s being bitten by a lion, stalked by a hippo, getting burnt by a burning hot gun cartridge, or being accosted by an armed hold up convict, Julia has aquired plenty of scars, and certainly isn’t afraid to share them with you! Julia doesn’t just take to the stage, she owns it. Her unique style of storytelling is delivered with such honesty and at a blisteringly energising pace that a shirt full of sore ribs is guaranteed!
Julia has headlined comedy events all over the world, thrilling audiences in Britain, Australia, South Africa, Croatia, Germany and Canada with her dynamic, gutsy performances on stage, tv, radio and film.
“Wilson is as tough as a sack full of nails… takes you on a taste defying ride you won’t forget in a hurry.” – Drum Media, Australia
“Laughter rips through her audiences like wildfire”- ComedyLive, Australia
“Her gags are fired off faster than snakebites in a mongoose cage…There’s nothing like laughing at other people’s misfortunes, and no guilt if you can claim you were scared into it… Be warned.” –TNT Magazine, UK
“Brilliant” – Three Weeks, Scotland
PLUS THREE SPECIAL GUEST COMEDIANS
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FRI 21st APRIL 8.30PM – Joel Ozborn, Umit Bali and Rebecca De Unamuno PLUS THREE SPECIAL GUEST COMEDIANS
Home/FRI 21st APRIL 8.30PM – Joel Ozborn, Umit Bali and Rebecca De Unamuno PLUS THREE SPECIAL GUEST COMEDIANS
Joel Ozborn – You’ve seen him with Arj Barker, Akmal and Jimeoin. Now see Joel Ozborn at Happy Endings Comedy Club. Since winning “Street Performer Of The Year” presented by the Sydney Opera House, Joel has toured his funny and spontaneous stand-up comedy to Las Vegas, L.A, New York. From the Sydney Opera House, to National Theatre Tour with fellow Akmal, And Arj, to the Adelaide Fringe Festival to Melbourne International Comedy Festival come watch one of the hardest working comedian in Australia.
“He’s disarming; he’s accessible without being common; articulate and clever without being smug…bloody funny.” – The Age
“we laughed so hard” Sunday Mail
“I fell a little bit in love with Joel Ozborn. This tall, nonchalant Eric Bana look-a-like was perfect… went down a treat ina packed house. People were rocking backwards and forwards, holding in their stomachs and letting out shouts of laughter.” THE ADVERTISER
“Funny and spontaneous.” THE AGE
“His flair for improvisation left the crowd in stitches.” –The Program
With Umit Bali With an exhilarating collection of oddball characters and anecdotes, Umit is one of Sydney’s most entertaining new comedians. “Packed with fast-paced humour and slices of life that are often just plain tragic, Bali’s high-energy stage presence is as entertaining as it is inspiring” – The West Australian
And improv. genius Rebecca De Unamuno, known from her several appearances on programs such as The Glass House, CNNNN, The Chaser’s War on Everything, Stand Up Australia, Comedy Slapdown, Kath and Kim and Comedy Inc – The Late Shift. She’s a comedian, actor, radio host, voice-over artiste, improv legend and all around comedy superstar. This woman oozes talent. (in a good way)
In the world of Theatresports, Rebecca is a two-time Cranston Cup champion and was a member of the Australian team which won the 2001 Improv World Cup. Rebecca was the first woman in the history of the competition to be named Player of the Tournament (aka World Impro Champion).
“Rebecca De Unamuno is possibly the smartest, sharpest, most versatile performer I have ever known.” – Jason Alexander (George Costanza, Seinfeld)
“…something few comics would dare contemplate” – SMH
“it’s like watching a magician and wondering what the secret to her craft is” – Impress Magazine
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Written by hdc@lpc on May 2, 2011
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
BOROUGH OF BROOKLYN
117324- Block 195, lot 26-
178 Dean Street – Boerum Hill Historic District
A modified Italianate style rowhouse built in 1859. Application is to construct rooftop and rear yard additions.
While we applaud the restoration work going on at the front facade, HDC feels this application for rooftop and rear yard additions is too much for this small rowhouse and this very pristine garden core. The further extension of this rear yard addition will only encourage neighbors to build further in order to catch up. The rear façade becomes barely recognizable with the first two floors primarily of glass. More masonry is needed on these lower floors instead. While we appreciate that the location and width of the top floor openings will remain the same, HDC would rather only one window be altered to create a door. Also we are curious to know if the window lintels on the top floor are historic. If they are, they should be retained.
LPC determination: No action
BOROUGH OF MANHATTAN
118028- Block 514, lot 7&9-
146-150 Wooster Street – SoHo-Cast Iron Historic District
A garage built or altered from an earlier structure in the early 20th century, and a parking lot. Application is to demolish the existing building and construct a new building.
The 2008 Certificate of Appropriateness to legalize painting the façade and installation of new doors here at 150 Wooster noted that “the building’s style, scale, materials and details contribute to the special architectural and historic character of the SoHo-Cast Iron Historic District.” It makes one wonder what has happened in the past three years that would make this early 20th-Century garage a candidate for demolition.
Of the 500 buildings designated in 1973 in the SoHo-Cast Iron Historic District, 61 were one- or two-story buildings. I use the past tense because a dozen have since been demolished or significantly added to, and in the process a piece of this area’s story has been whittle away. Instead of demolition, HDC feels a more appropriate new structure would incorporate this historic building. For example, the front third or so of the garage could be retained for use as a lobby and build the new structure behind and around it. That is just one idea, and the talented team working on this project could certainly come up with others.
LPC determination: Approved
117678- Block 821, lot 1-
636 6th Avenue aka 56 W. 19th Street – Ladies’ Mile Historic District
A neo-Renaissance style store building designed by Buchman and Deisler and constructed in 1896. Application is to replace entrance infill, install a canopy, and remove fire escapes.
HDC applauds the applicant for the restorative work planned for the neo-Renaissance Alexander Building. We are equally grateful that they have searched out and presented the historic drawings for the landmark. Our only wish now is that those drawings are more closely followed for the new entrance. The proposed entrance canopy and infill feel too transparent and generic. Wooden doors with window panels, like those seen in the historic drawing, would provide the transparency needed. Framing around the lower transom would also help create a proper entrance, not just a wall of glass. The base of this impressive building has been less than impressive for too long, and a storefront master plan is sorely needed. While such an official plan will not come out of this application, this is a chance to create a starting point for how the rest of the base is treated in the future.
As to the removal of fire escapes, it would be nice to keep the older more ornate one that does not interfere with the cornice. This fire escape does not appear to harm the building and for the sake of variety and history it should be retained.
338 West 22nd Street – Chelsea Extension Historic District
A Greek Revival style rowhouse built in 1836. Application is to construct rooftop and rear additions and install new window openings.
The proposal seems to have been changed slightly from what we saw at Public Review Friday, primarily for the better. While we understand that a nice plan for restoration is in the works for the front façade 338 West 22nd Street, HDC wishes similar thought and respect would be shown on the rear façade. The simple, nicely intact historic façade along with its windows and lintels would be lost in this plan for rooftop and rear additions Considering the rarity of this 1830’s façade, HDC asks that the Commission extend its usual ruling to preserve at least the top two floors, much like you decided in January for 291 West 4th Street, a house just eight years older than this one. The rooftop addition should also be pulled back more from the rear wall in order to help this façade maintain its integrity.
LPC determination: Approved with modifications
118018- Block 1111, lot 1-
Central Park, Cherry Hill Concourse – Scenic Landmark
A former carriage concourse and surrounding landscape and pathways, within an English Romantic style public park designed by Olmsted and Vaux in 1856. Application is to replace paving, furnishing and landscaping.
The Historic Districts Council is the advocate for New York City’s designated historic districts and neighborhoods meriting preservation. Its Public Review Committee monitors proposed changes within historic districts and changes to individual landmarks and has reviewed the application now before the Commission.
While we wish to preserve Central Park, each generation has left its mark there over the past century and a half. Some of these alterations have proven to be incompatible, wear out, or are quickly dated. Others like the adventure playgrounds, the Alice in Wonderland statue, and the boathouse to name a just few have added to the richness of the park and should be preserved. The Cherry Hill Concourse happily falls into this latter category.
The space is in good condition with only the asphalt needing an overhaul. A nicer material such as belgian block or that perennial park favorite, hex pavers, could be put in its place. HDC questions the use of resin aggregate. It has not been approved for use elsewhere in the park, and it is not known how well it will work here. This important, busy spot should not be used as a test case. This 1980 design, old enough now to be considered historic, by noted preservation landscape architect Philip Winslow is not only a handsome design, but also reflects an important piece of Central Park’s history – its rebirth – and it is worth preserving.
LPC determination: Approved with modifications (retain the brick and stone work)
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The Existential Baker and His Wife
Learning to Live Without The Love of My Life, and Keeping His Words Alive
On October 23, 2015 By The Existential Baker and The Existential's WifeIn Uncategorized
A person never stands as tall as when they bend over to help a child..
Megan Laurine Jaret
One of the unfortunate truths in life is that sometimes it takes the worst things happening to us to bring out the best of our humanity. However that’s no reason not to shine a light on the profound acts of kindness we as humans share with each other in times of catastrophic stress regardless of what motivated those acts. Every year on the anniversary of our daughter Megan’s death we commemorate her life in some way. Maureen and I both fear this date because it’s an unwanted anniversary, the loss of our baby girl. The immense pain we endured and the profound sense of loss haunts us to this day. So each year we share parts of our journey down into the depths of every parents worst nightmare in an attempt to express the need of organ donations as well as the need for all of us to have compassion without condition. This date also reminds of the best humanity has to offer, the selfless and compassionate acts of family, friends, and even strangers. Our story this year is our attitude of gratitude. It as not just an honor to a brave young child, her fight for life and the tragic fight of a mother and father, but it’s an opportunity to focus not on our loss but of our gain for having had Megan in our lives, and to have had a group of heroes alongside us the entire time. We have had the opportunity to share with so many special people throughout the ordeal. We will shine a bright light of gratitude unto all the people, all the heroes in our story who worked so tirelessly and selflessly to assist us through our struggle to keep our daughter alive and to help us both hang on to a thread of sanity.
We had just relocated from Manhattan to Belleville New Jersey searching out a nice community to raise our family. We were strangers in town with a newborn baby girl who would soon make us unwilling celebrities in the New Jersey town. It started with a visit to a pediatrician and ended in a tragedy, but as is usually the case if you follow the journey and not the destination you reveal the true heart of the story. During that often tumultuous journey there are a number of local heroes we want to recognize and have them be the focus of our anniversary this year. So here’s to our homegrown heroes….
The first star of the journey is the late Doctor Milton Prystowsky, a well known pediatric cardiologist. Dr. Milton sat with Megan for over an hour, the first time he met her, monitoring her heart rhythms because he believed he saw something wrong. He was the first one to listen to what we said about Megan’s discomfort. A very welcome comforting voice of reason and compassion after a slew of doctors who totally discounted our claims as what they perceived as first time parents over-reacting to a normal child’s illness. Most chalked it up to a new mother ranting and a new father whose only real medical knowledge was from what he watched on Marcus Welby or Medical Center. But she was much sicker than just an average childhood illness. With our instincts as parents we knew something wasn’t right and it was Dr. Milton who listened intently to all we said and incorporated our observations in his assessment. Megan suffered from myocarditis (an enlarged heart) and she quickly became a favorite patient of his. He would later spend hours saving her life after she had a stroke and cardiac arrest and even comforted us throughout the pregnancy and subsequent birth of our second beautiful daughter Kelllie. Unfortunately Dr. Milton has passed but he is forever woven deeply into our hearts and we are eternally grateful for all he did.
Having found out how ill Megan really was another reality was about to rock our world. Even with decent medical coverage the medicines, the therapy, the time off from work, and the costs of frequent doctor visits spiraled out of control. After a cardiac arrest and stroke we were informed Megan now had cardiomyopathy, a condition which is irreversible. Megan needed a heart transplant and we would need to be ready to at the ring of a phone call to rush to the hospital. A local business person, Scott Harvin who was busy growing his own printing business listened to our story and decided something must be done to help. Along with his childhood friend Chris Otazo Scott began a local fundraising campaign to assist us not only with our bills, which had already placed extra burdens but with emotional support. In the beginning Megan was on seven medications given eight times a day, so many intervals it allowed for little sleep if any as well as frequent trips to hospitals. Scott and Chris started the Megan Jaret Heart Fund which grew exponentially as more members of our town heard of our plight.
Before telling of the story of how the fund grew from a grass roots community effort to Megan becoming the 1991 New Jersey Police Benevolent Associations poster child it’s important to go back to two EMT’s who responded to a Sunday morning 911 call on October 7th. Megan’s condition was compromised further when she had a heart attack that morning which we heard in chilling real time over her baby monitor. A frantic call to 911 brought a rapid response from the Belleville Firemen Mark Rossi and Mike De Andrea, who reacted swiftly and decisively first stabilizing Megan then sweeping her into the ambulance and nearly flying away down the road. Maureen and I jumped in our own car and drove with great purpose to the hospital only to find the ambulance hadn’t yet arrived. Panic stricken and confused we were quickly triaged to a private room where we waited an grueling 45 minutes before finding out Megan had arrived. We would later find out that the firemen had stopped along the way to administer emergency cardiac stimulation. There is not a single doubt in my mind the two of them could think of little else then their own children while saving Megan’s life. Of course the pair of heroes would later humbly tell us they we only doing their job but they gave true meaning to above and beyond with their desperate efforts. No matter how big and strong you may be no one really wants a helpless child to be part of their job. So a special thank you to Mark and Mike.
Leading up to that time our needs both emotionally and financially grew significantly regardless of having the medical coverage Maureen had to leave her job and stay with Megan full time and I picked up extra jobs in restaurants to help make ends meet. The fund that Scott and Chris had started became another focal point of our existence. Belleville Police Lieutenant Jack Mailot had read the story of Megan in the Belleville Times and contacted Scott. He told him that he wants to be apart of the fund – he was a cancer survivor and there was just something special about Meg. He and Tony Weiners, also from the Belleville PD helped to heightened the awareness and assistance and suddenly a huge community that had no idea who we were had started rallying around this young couple with a catastrophically ill infant. Larry Rosenthal, a highly successful businessperson, and his associate Barbara found out about our plight and joined in. Larry became a huge supporter for us when he and Barbara focused on Maureen and I because they realized the caretakers so often go overlooked, especially when the one being cared for is such a beautiful and helpless child. It blew us away, and I admit to many hours of tears of gratefulness in their reminding us that we were human, that we were important, and that everyone cared for all three of us.
The need for Megan’s heart transplant also opened us up to an almost sub culture of people who called themselves “The Transplant Community”. There is a slew of people here who helped us emotionally including Rhonda Roby and Peggy Dreker (who’s own beautiful child had a liver transplant) from TRIOS (Transplant Recipient International Organization) and UNOS (United Network for Organ Sharing). Along with the transplant community was our circle of friends. Our “Bridgebrook” family, Kathy and Bob Gandolfi, Mary Bay Pickett, Michael DiFrabizio, Lisa Grabas, and a host of others who were more than merely neighbors shared in our plight.
Megan got her transplant at Columbia Presbyterian, and her doctors were nothing short of amazing!! Drs Robert Michler, and Dr Linda Addonizio, who cried with us when Meg died never made us feel that our daughter was not their priority! The entire staff of Columbia most especially the extremely caring compassionate and professional nursing staff who always helped interpret what the doctors told us as well as just making us feel as if they were our family.
And most importantly our families, played a major role in helping us to not only get through all the insanity but to help us keep it!!! Maureen’s sister Kathleen and her cousin Laurine, and her best friend Diane, who helped to hold her up and give her the courage to get up and fight another day! Their love and support are still immeasurable today! Her brothers, Michael and Sean, both standing next to us helping to hold us up! Maureen’s Aunt and uncle Mel and Bill, who were by our side when we received the devastating news that Meg needed a transplant, they took our other family member, our little sheltie Kasey Jonze and gave him a nice home while we rearranged our lives. When we had to make a trek to Philadelphia to St.Christopher’s Hospital, my brother Randy and his wife Joyce followed behind us, they virtually never left our side, and helped us settle in our new temporary home while attempting to take our minds off of our peril as best they could. Philadelphia was extremely tough on Maureen who set up home in a chair beside Megan where she watched over her 24/7. After the first month I had to return to work where two of my best friends and co-workers, Wayne Lyons and Vicky Zonana kept me together until I could get back to Philly on the weekends. The two of them along with “Little David” another coworker who since passed away were my rocks and stood alongside me from the beginning of our ordeal. A frienship just as strong today as it was back then despite being miles apart.
Then there is our parents, who must have been going through their own agony watching there children suffering and in so much pain over their beautiful granddaughter enduring more pain in her short life, then they did in their lifetime!
We know that there are people all along the way that we did not mention, but it does not mean that their impact is any less for us! We are eternally grateful to all that had come to the aid of our little family and our beautiful little Megan!
Peace, Love, and Thank You
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The Best Thanksgiving EVER!
Wind Beneath Our Wings
Grief is Not Grief
For the Love of Our Human
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Pilot Program Trunks: Guide and Resources
Download the Guide and Resources PDF.
The Guide and Resources was compiled and produced by the Georgia Commission on the Holocaust in 2011 for the pilot program trunks. The contents include:
Inventory of Trunk Contents
Summary of Materials
Guidelines to Teaching About the Holocaust
What have We Learned?
Pyramid of Hate
36 Questions about the Holocaust
Holocaust Terminology
Holocaust Chronology
In 2013, as part of the process of creating 20 new trunks (known as "second edition trunks"), a new Teaching Guide was created to accompany the new trunks. The Teaching Guide improved and expanded upon the components included in the pilot program's Guide and Resources. The Teaching Guide was also developed further to include lesson modules, activity modules, student handouts, and worksheets. Although the trunk contents in pilot program trunks differ from the second edition trunk contents, this new Teaching Guide is still a useful resource for educators utilizing pilot program trunks.
Second Edition Trunks: Teaching Guide
Download the Teaching Guide PDF.
The Teaching Guide was developed and produced by the Georgia Commission on the Holocaust in 2012-2013 for the second edition trunks. The contents are divided into the following categories:
Worksheets and Handouts
Each lesson module, activity module, and worksheet were designed or directly derived from the tasks, strategies, and themes outlined in the Common Core Georgia Performance Standards.
Middle school students continue to expand their understanding of the past by using multiple sources and perspectives to build interpretations of past events. Through this process, students acquire an improved understanding of the basic civil rights in a democracy. Students will better understand their role in their community, nation, and international community.
The modules are developed with the goal of teaching critical thinking skills to students in order to provide them with a broad view of societies, cultures, and belief systems. In gaining this perspective students can recognize and respect people’s differences and realize the dangers of prejudice, bigotry, and discrimination. It encourages the acceptance of diversity in a pluralistic society.
It is important to learn the lessons of the Holocaust and the skill of critical thinking, so that students can apply these values and strategies to their own decision-making process. Each lesson module provides students with an opportunity to examine their daily lives, the choices they make, and how those choices impact others. Personal responsibility is a central theme of Holocaust education and the examination of this allows students to recognize when he/she is in a situation where he/she must make a choice instead of standing by in apathy. Students should not be told what decision they are expected to make, but in learning the lessons of the Holocaust he/she will be able to use their critical thinking skills to arrive at the right decision and understand why it is the right decision. Students are taught how to make moral and ethical choices.
Third Edition Trunks: Teaching Guide
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Online Only Materials
Overview of Curriculum Standards
What Did the Badges Mean?
Letter to Parent/Guardian
Student Reflection
Personal Histories
Confronting Hatred Activities:
Being an Outsider
Photo Activity
Fighting Prejudice
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TERRAFORMING TERRA We discuss and comment on the role agriculture will play in the containment of the CO2 problem and address protocols for terraforming the planet Earth. A model farm template is imagined as the central methodology. A broad range of timely science news and other topics of interest are commented on.
Bronze Age Sea Peoples
Our understanding of the Bronze Age and its connection through the Sea Peoples has been steadily advancing. Thus it is no surprise to see Robert Thornton land on board as well.
At this point, it is pretty clear that the Americas were continuously peopled from Europe starting at least 9000 years ago. Yet there were hunting bands ahead of agriculture. Fishing was then the only way to produce a larger population.
It was the advent of agriculture that changed the population and that favored first adopters. Whites arose in Europe and the Han in China. A similar thing happened in the Americas. Then we had late advent Europeans as well.
What is now in need of investigation is the degree in which the Pacific lineage penetrated from the West. My guess is that it was never deep at all.
THE BRONZE AGE CONNECTION . . . A SNAPSHOT OF OUR RESEARCH TODAY
Posted by Richard Thornton | May 1, 2018 | Appalachian Mountains, Archaeology, Ireland, Language, Mayas, Petroglyphs, Scandinavia, Scotland, South America, Uncategorized | 0
https://peopleofonefire.com/the-bronze-age-connection-a-snapshot-of-our-research-today.html
The April Fool’s joke was on me folks . . . never be absolutely sure of ANYTHING!
The Uchee, Southern Shawnee, Chickasaw, Alabama, Creeks, Cherokee and Seminole are NOT solely the descendants of aboriginal peoples in North America. Any geneticist, who analyzes DNA samples with that assumption, are going to end up misinterpreting the genetic profile. They are the result of many peoples from across Asia, the Americas and western Europe, mixing over the eons then their minute number of survivors, after the European Disease Holocaust, forming alliances that the young United States later recognized as tribes. In particular, the Uchee, Southern Shawnee, Muskogee-Creek, Cherokee and Seminole provide linguistic evidence of ancient immigration from Bronze Age Scandinavia, Ireland and Scotland. Indeed, the Shawnee, Muskogee and Cherokee suffix for “tribe or people” is the Irish Gaelic word for “tribe or people.”
During the era, when I was a college student, several authors, mostly from Europe, made popular the belief that Extraterrestrials, Egyptians, Phoenicians, Libyans, Sumerians, Chinese or “Vikings” had been responsible for all the great civilizations of the Americas. All authors shared the assumption that indigenous Americans lacked the intelligence to create a civilization. Never mind that about 70% of the vegetables consumed by people around the world today, were first domesticated by indigenous Americans. The authors knew nothing about the languages and cultural history of indigenous Americans, when making these claims. They had no idea that the oldest pyramids in the world are in Peru and the oldest geometrically arranged mounds are in Georgia, Louisiana, Peru and Brazil. As a result, I have been extremely hostile since then to all proposals that any people from the Old World settled in the Americas before the Early Middle Ages, when Scandinavians arrived in the Maritime Provinces and a relatively small band of Irish refugees settled on the South Atlantic Coast near Savannah. Then . . . exactly a year ago, I came to the astonishing conclusion that most of the petroglyphs in North Georgia were identical to either those in southwestern Ireland or southern Scandinavia!
Who would have thought?
But then . . . a year ago I discovered that most of the Georgia petroglyphs are identical to European Bronze Age petroglyphs and that the Tugaloo Stone portrays three Bronze Age European ships, plus Scandinavian Bronze Age astronomical symbols. Everything changed.
Let’s make something clear. The earliest mounds in Georgia, Louisiana and Peru predate the oldest mounds in northern and western Europe. The stonehenges in Canada predate by 500 years their earliest manifestation in the British Isles. No one knows how old the stone circles are on mountaintops in Georgia, because no archaeologist has attempted to do radiocarbon testing at any of these sites. Thus, the evidence suggests a two way cultural communication between eastern North America and northwestern Europe that seems to have ended during the Late Bronze Age.
[it never ended, but the underlying value collapsed, and we have a 1500 year gap in general traffic. arclein ]
Discoveries of Roman coins and Irish Iron Age ogham writing (c. 50 BC – 600 AD) in the Appalachian Plateau do provide evidence that small parties of Europeans arrived in North America at later dates, but there is no evidence of a later cultural influence from Europe on North America. During the Middle and Late Woodland Periods, we see a profound influence from Amazonia and eastern Peru on the Lower Southeast. Also, the way that human figures are portrayed by the Hopewell and Copena Cultures suggests at least indirect influence from Teotihuacan.
Let’s take a look at what we know at this time. As research continues there will probably be more observations and a greater understanding of the Southeast’s past.
North Georgia petroglyphs: Most of the petroglyphs in North Georgia are identical to Bronze Age petroglyphs in Europe. Georgia contains the purest gold in the world. Given that its gold fields have been mined for probably 3500 years, it probably initially offered vast wealth by picking gold nuggest off the ground. Most of the petroglyphs in the Etowah River Valley of Georgia are identical to those in southwestern Ireland and around Dundee, Scotland. Those in the British Isles are thought to day from around 2500 BC to 1200 BC. Most of the petroglyphs in the Chattahoochee, Nottely and Savannah River Basins are identical to those in southern Scandinavia. Those in Scandinavia first appeared around 2000 BC.
Ko-ra: Co-re was a king and Co-ra was the ancient pre-Celtic word for a tribe or nation, sufficient in size to have a king, in the British Isles. It may have also been the word used in Early Bronze Age Scandinavia, but most of that language has been lost. Because most Southeastern indigenous peoples, plus the Panoans of Amazonia, roll their R’s so hard that they sound like an L, Cora is the source word for the word meaning the same in Apalache-Creek (kora or kola), Muskogee (kli), Chickasaw (kola), Coastal Choctaw (kola), modern Choctaw (okola or okla) and Arawak (koa, kua or gua).
Togha-re: The word means “Principal People” in Gaelic. It applied to both a tribe and the elite of other tribes. It is the origin of the following Appalachian tribal and place names – Tokah-re, Togaria, Tokee, Toque, Toccoa, Tugaloo, Tuckabatchee, Tuckasegee and Tocasee. Tokahle is also a Muskogee-Creek word meaning “freckled.”
Cura: The Cura-re were a powerful pre-Gaelic tribe in Ireland. Their name means “Spear People” or “the Sun Goddess People.” The word is the origin of the following tribal and place names in the Southeast – Kulasee-Creeks, Cullowhee, NC, Cullasaga River, Judaculla Rock and Curahee Mountain, GA.
Arawaks: Seventeenth century ethnologist, Charles de Rochefort, stated that the Arawaks originated on the coasts of South Carolina and Georgia and were the most advanced people in North America at the time. He said that they built the shell rings then began migrating southward, eventually reaching Peru and Amazonia. The proto-Arawaks then began migrating northward. That would place them in South Carolina and Georgia between around 2400 BC through 1600 BC. The appearance of shell rings in the region coincides with the earliest known pottery in North America. Around 2360 BC, a 20 year long period of almost constant rainfall resulted in the near depopulation of Ireland and southern England. Prior to that time, the people of Ireland built field stone ring mortuary complexes that were almost identical to the shell ring complexes of the South Atlantic Coast.
Cherokee-Irish Moundbuilders: When they moved into the Southern Highlands the ancestors of the Cherokees absorbed some of the Tokah-re. Tokah-re means “Principal People” in Irish Gaelic. Other Tokah-re had already moved south. The southern Tokah-re eventually became the Tuckabatchee and Tokasi branches of the Creeks and Seminoles. Nevertheless, Tokoa (Tocqua, Toccoa, etc.) was an important Overhill Cherokee town. Therefore, it is safe to say that at least some of the Cherokees today are descendants of Bronze Age mound builders in northwestern Europe. So the joke was on me.
Algonquians: The Uchee state that Algonquians already had occupied a large chunk of eastern North America, when they arrived. However, some other ethnic group had build hundreds of shell rings and shell mounds in the Southeastern United States, but had moved away to the south.
Geneticists at the University of Copenhagen have been able the people, who first settled Scandinavia and the British Isles after the last ice cap receded. They were from Central Asia and were the result of western Asians intermarrying with proto-Europeans. The Middle Easterners in Ireland and Scotland, mentioned in a comment by Mark Veale, came about 5, 500 years later. At this time, my guess is that the Algonquians of eastern North America are the descendants of the mixing of aboriginal peoples of the British Isles with peoples, whose ancestors came across the land bridge from Siberia. However, those peoples’ ancestors have also been traced to Central Asia. There is no other way of explaining the same word for “tribe or people” being on both sides of the Atlantic.
Uchee: Uchee is the Anglicization of the pre-Gaelic Irish word for water, uisce. They were known as the Okate or Water People by the Itsate Creeks. The Uchee have always said that they originated in the Land of the home of the Sun God. They traveled across the Atlantic Ocean to settle initially near the mouth of the Savannah River. Since they came after the shell rings were abandoned, their probable time of arrival is between 1500 BC and 1200 BC. Around 1200 BC the Deptford Culture appeared in Savannah. It produced cord-marked, beaker shaped jars which were identical to those made contemporaneously in Ireland, Scotland and southern Scandinavia. The massive ceremonial flint swords of the Uchee were also identical to those made in the Early Bronze Age in northwestern Europe.
Wasa, Wassaw & Guasvli: These were people living south of Savannah at Wassaw Sound, on the middle and upper Savannah River and near Franklin, NC. It was the name of a town visited by Hernando de Soto, which anthropologist Charles Hudson labeled “the ancient capital of the great Cherokee Nation.” This word has three possible etymologies. (1) In Proto-Oceanic . . . such archaic Australoid, Maori, Samoan, Hawaiian, etc . . . it means ocean. Guasvri (Guasvli) means “Ocean People.” (2) It is the Central and Southern German word for water, which is derived from the true Celts of the Austrian Alps. (3) The Archaic Finnish and Sami word for a young cow, reindeer or elk.
Wataree (Watagi or Wataugi in Cherokee): This was originally a tribe that occupied most of the North Carolina Mountains north of Asheville, but by the 1700s had been decimated by raids by northern tribes, European diseases and English-sponsored slave raids. Most of the survivors lived on the Wataree River in South Carolina when the colony was founded in 1670 Water-re was a name of a tribe in the region now occupied by the Netherlands, Friesland, southern Denmark and northwestern Germany. The word means “Water People.”
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HOGAN PROPOSALS ON SUCKLERS DESERVE CAREFUL CONSIDERATION
ICSA suckler chairman John Halley has said that comments by EU Agriculture Commissioner Phil Hogan suggesting a payment for farmers wishing to exit the suckler sector need careful consideration. “Suckler farming is delivering unacceptably low margins because of the ongoing inability of the meat industry to deliver a viable price. Excess supply of cattle is being used by meat factories to drive down price. Therefore, policy proposals to encourage farmers to keep more suckler cows than they would otherwise do are doomed to failure.”
“ICSA has consistently pointed out that coupled payments do not work because they are simply a way of ensuring cheap supplies to processors and retailers. It has now got to the stage that a voluntary scheme to reduce numbers makes more sense. ICSA made this argument a few years ago and it is interesting that we are now being listened to. Our view is that such a scheme would be voluntary, would involve payments over a five year period, and would reflect the average number of cows calved over a three year period. ”
“However, for the proposal to work, we need to consider real alternative options for those farmers who want to exit sucklers. While there are undoubtedly farmers who want to leave because of age, ICSA believes that it is now time to look at putting the right policies in place to make renewable energy a viable alternative for farmers. The current policy framework is not working and there is a massive missed opportunity to develop renewable energy options such as anaerobic digesters and solar panels.”
“ICSA also wants to see a much better agri-environment scheme. What we need is a scheme that is a lot more like REPS and a lot less like GLAS. The key is that those who participate must be financially better off than those that don’t and in a way which takes account of the opportunity and labour costs of being in an agri-environment scheme. It is total hypocrisy to demand that policy responds to the so-called Green Wave across Europe if farmers are expected to deliver all sorts of societal goals relating to climate change and biodiversity while meeting the cost out of their own pocket and working for free.”
“We also need to look at training and assistance for farmers who leave suckling to take up new enterprises. This applies to other farm enterprises as well as to alternative rural enterprises. Training for off-farm employment should also be part of the package.”
“ICSA believes that there can be a bright future for sucklers. But this will require a determined effort to get PGI status for suckler beef and a strategy to market it as a high value niche product in terms of animal welfare and natural farming methods. The future of sucklers is also dependent on increased live exports to countries like Italy, Greece and Turkey. However, it is far from clear that there is room for the current number of suckler cows especially as the meat industry sees more suckler cows as central to their strategy to drive down price. Hence, it is time for an honest debate around the proposal to provide a voluntary exit package for some so that the remaining suckler farmers can prosper.”
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The overall amount of compensation paid out by the State Claims Agency (SCA) in relation to medical negligence claims totals over half a billion euro in the past two years.
New figures released by Minister for Health Simon Harris show that the amount of compensation paid out by the State Claims Agency (SCA) in 2018 was €268.45m for medical negligence cases – an increase of €18.6 million – or 7.5% – on the €249.77m paid out in 2017. This brings the total amount of compensation for medical negligence paid out in 2017-18 to €518.2m.
The figures were provided by the State Claims Agency (SCA) in response to a a written Dáil question by Fianna Fáil’s Finance spokesman, Michael McGrath. It also reveals that the highest sum paid out last year under medical negligence was €15.5m in relation to a cerebral palsy case compensation claim.
Cases linked to birth negligence or cerebral palsy accounted for seven of the top ten medical negligence payouts in 2018. The figures release indicate that, in the seven cerebral palsy cases, a total of €60.3m compensation was paid out in order to provide adequate treatment for the individuals concerned for the remainder of their lives.
The remainder of the top ten was made up of cases that in the top ten payments concerned a pay-out of €6.3 million for a clinical procedure at surgery and a separate payout of €5.9m under the same category.
The lowest payout in the top ten was €4.37 million paid out concerning a clinical procedure in the Gynaecology service.
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Things I've Found on My Local's Jukebox # 68 The Cars
Life is difficult coming up to Fifty, without dependents trying to make sense of an upcoming General Election. So I put The Cars on the jukebox. Probably because I've been listening to BRONCHO for a day and a half.
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Record Sleeves # 32 Richard & Linda Thompson - I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight
From a record I'm just discovering the greatness of on a Thursday afternoon drifting to Thursday evening when perhaps I should be working harder. The record was released 41 years ago today.
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30th April 1948 Wayne Kramer
Firebrand guitarist with The MC5. Still with us remarkably.
Things I've Found on My Local's Jukebox # 67 Prince
Any number of Prince songs of course could always be selected. This one went on the other night. To take me back to my first year at University and one of his most interesting, if slightly flawed albums.
Song(s)of the Day # 466 BRONCHO
'You can show up to my room with no clothes on. It's on...'
Straight off the American production line! If BRONCHO didn't actually exist they'd probably have to be invented. Listen to the song posted above. It starts with a Clem Burke drum roll. Then mutates into Ramones stomp, I'd take a stab in the dark at Rock & Roll High School as the 'brudders' song they lifted it from. You're in a totally recognisable world. One where we're forever in 1978, perhaps 1979 at a push and looking back from there to the Sixties and Fifties as the true Golden Age. BRONCHO never once break the spell. They know what they like and what they want to be! One of so many great American Punk/Garage bands springing up from everywhere at the moment. The fact that BRONCHO hail from Norman, Oklahoma and spell their name in capitals only underlines their appeal. Ramones, Dead Boys, Blondie, The Cars, The Stooges, Modern Lovers, Velvets, Dictators, 60s Garage Punk, Beach Boys, Surf Music, Girl Groups, Rock and Roll. You know the lineage. They barely put a foot wrong. Just Enough Hip To Be Woman, their album from last year is a constant explosion of moments like these. A thing of beauty. They do the cool / dumb thing that's been played on in American Pop Culture for a half century at least, and I imagine has got at least another half century left in the tank. The early Strokes would have been happy to pull some of this off. Black Lips, I imagine would tip their hats. Even Iggy might approve. I'm almost fifty but this makes me feel much younger. Indulge yourself!
'Billy told Mary, told Tommy told Sue. It's on...'
Record Sleeve # 31 The Beatles - Revolver
For Klaus Vorman who designed the sleeve and whose birthday it is today.
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Songs about People # 85 Helen Keller
To give it its full title The Ballad of Helen Keller & Rip Van Winkle. One definitely real, one possibly not. From a band who was briefly bracketed with The Strokes when they emerged thirteen or so years back. Good to hear again!
Listening to and very much enjoying Parquet Courts Sunbathing Animal record from last year. They're a hit and miss band for me, some tracks work, some less so, it's their very nature, the songs seem designed to give the impression that they're about to fall apart at any moment. But when they hit, they hit hard. Like these for instance.
Covers # 2 The Move
They tended to do live versions of this (The Byrds of course) and Love's Stephanie Knows Who in their sets in the mid to late Sixties.
Song of the Day #465 The Baptist Generals
The best song I heard yesterday. Two years old from a band with a great name on Sub Pop who took ten years between their two albums.
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Instrumentals # 30 British Sea Power
April 28th 1953 Kim Gordon
Song of the Day #464 Sharon Van Etten
Her new single. A thing of beauty.
Katmandhu - Nepal
King Tubby Meets The Rockers Uptown
One of the great record titles. And legitimately 'seminal' records.
Sam Cooke and Muhammed Ali
Song of the Day # 463 The Ladybug Transistor
Small, perfectly formed Indie Pop song from a couple of years ago from a Brooklyn based collective that goes way back. Seems to be about catching a commuting train and watching and experiencing the world through its window. In the fine tradition of The Shins and also fittingly given that this is a Go-Betweens inspired blog it also seems a song they would have also been proud of. Enjoy!
Songs Heard on the Radio # 47 The Beatles
Always great to hear this coming out of the radio. Courtesy of Dave Grohl.
Covers # 1 Love
From a 1974 album Reel to Real with a terrible cover. This though is just great.
Song(s) of the Day # 462 Papernut Cambridge
A great weekend with a good friend coming up from Cambridge and staying for a couple of days. Beer, talk of the past, football, music. Co-incidentally Papernut Cambridge is my discovery of the week, particularly their album from last year There's No Underground, (strangely a line from a Go-Betweens song, You've Never Lived, is that deliberate?). A peculiarly English album though. Haunted by the ghosts of Syd Barrett, Luke Haines, Robyn Hitchcock, Lawrence, Tajinder Singh, Ray Davies, Steve Marriott, Marc Bolan and Jesus and Mary Chain (Scottish I know but there's definitely some of that resigned lilt in the vocal delivery).
It's a very specific record and struck an immediate chord as soon as I heard its first notes . It's now on repeat play. Deeply evocative of suburban avenues and England's dreaming. Here's a paragraph from The Quietus review;
'This is a great rock & roll record. Ian Button may be "haunted by the insects in his dark imaginings", as he intones on opener 'The Ghost Of Something Small', but outside that buzzing hook-laden head of his, it's a leisurely ride through glittering neon, the fluorescence that illuminates rock's shadowy nighttime world. The lights that feel like they're never gonna end whilst terminating all too quickly – there's 12 songs in 30 minutes here. But no matter, press play again and we're back amidst the exiled warriors on Electric Main Street. Just as one would never fault T. Rex for being derivative, so here the nods to rock's past – The Stones, Bolan himself, The Replacements, Kinks, and Mary Chain – are simply the lineage continuing itself. All sung in that sweet sinister voice a la Jim Reid, with just as sharp an ear for melody.'
Ian Button was previously in Death In Vegas and Eighties under achievers Thrashing Doves. The record sounds like someone who's done a long, studious apprenticeship and is now coming into his own. He knows his stuff, and has a small, beautifully formed vision. He's listened to a few records in his time. The album is drenched in influences but nothing is slavishly aped and he makes something quite his own of it.
The record contains more golden moments then many feted Creation bands achieved over the course of entire careers. Each song is beautifully and lovingly crafted. The lyrics are wry, observant and consistently witty. A memory of a childhood world that is gone now but still there in the streets, the sounds and smells that remain. Anybody who loves guitar music, has a certain record collection and a few years in the tank will respond to what the album is saying. The band is still a small, independent, cottage industry concern on the wonderfully named Gare du Nord label. They deserve to outsell the increasingly ludicrous Noel Gallagher but of course will not. The world is wrong. Do yourself a favour and track it down.
April 27th 1946 Stu Cook
Stu Cook, bassist of Creedence turns 70 a day after his drummer.
Song of the Day # 461 Hildegarde Knef
Where Nico got it from.
Songs Heard on the Radio # 46 Elias Maluleke And Mavambe Girls
There's something beautifully idiomatic, gutteral, direct and dirty about the vocal delivery of this that jumped out of my radio. It's almost 'Saff Laandon'. Also short and sweet. Less than three minutes in all. From a Soweto compilation of music from the Seventies and Eighties.
April 26th 1945 Doug Clifford
The hairy drummer of one of the best bands there's ever been is 70.
Song of the Day # 460 Eels
Eels have had lots of notable moments. This is probably their most famous. And the one I wanted to hear.
Moe Koffman
Now this is great! From a Guardian article.
The 101 strangest records on Spotify: Moe Koffman – The Swingin’ Shepherd Plays for the Teens
You’d have to be a fantastically introverted stay-at-home teen to embrace this Canadian jazz flautist – but perhaps Moe Koffman’s uncool cash-in LP helped spark the Brit Beat revolution?
Canadian jazz-flute legend Moe Koffman. Photograph: Ross; Fred/Toronto Public Library
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It’s autumn 1962 and no one in the US record industry has seen the Brit Beat bombshell that’s about to explode on both sides of the Atlantic. The newly formed Ascot Records is a United Artists subsidiary overseen by music-biz lifer Chet Woods, and his first two signings are Dede Young (a singer so utterly forgotten that her releases aren’t even on YouTube) and 34-year-old Canadian jazz flautist Moe Koffman. Four years previously, Koffman had hit big with his Swingin’ Shepherd Blues single on Jubilee Records, and here he is again, tapping up that same captive, desperate-for-thrills market with his usual airy grace.
A collection of almost cosmic politeness, this is a classic quick-buck exploitation move that dates from an era in which you could record an album in a day and have it in the marketplace a few weeks later. The pitch is simple: get Koffman in front of what Billboard described as “a solid guitar-based combo” and let him loose on a selection of Twist-scented covers. At no point does it reach great levels of excitement, and yet you sort of fall in love with it all anyway. A musician of his talent – this is someone who’d play with Quincy Jones and Dizzie Gillespie during his long career – could record stuff like this in his sleep. Not only is the album the very essence of disengaged session players knocking it out before lunch, it’s an also-ran, by-numbers tootle-fest at best.
But – but! – Koffman also injects numbers like Twistin’ and Bumpin’ (which also features a gloriously will-this-do? piano solo) and Pretzel Twist with what at least appears to be genuine joy. If he’s faking it, he’s a true master of the art. You’d have to be a fantastically introverted, stay-at-home sort of teen to feel like dancing to music as steadfastly gentle and predictable as this, but then, maybe it’s precisely this tediously middle-aged way of watering down contemporary pop music for fast-growing children that created the soon-to-come revolution? The gum-chewing, hair-growing, fag-smoking, Cuban heel-stomping wave of Fabs-led creativity should have swept away this sort of cash-in LP forever, except, of course, it would endlessly reappear in an array of newer and hipper guises – I really like this one – over the years. Koffman would go on to cover The Beatles, record a best-selling album of Bach material and appear on the Moonstruck soundtrack, among a million other gigs. He died in 2001 on the very day he and Oscar Peterson were named as the first inductees into Canada’s Jazz and Blues Hall of Fame.
Songs Heard on the Radio # 45 Toots & the Maytals
And also on Trojan Records. From round about the same time. Nice!
Instrumentals # 29 The Upsetters
A touch of the James Brown band here.
Song of the Day # 459 Asha Bhosle
And others in this track. Plus a neat dance routine. Immortalised by Cornershop. Here's what's top of her Spotify Playlist.
April 22nd 1936 Glen Campbell
Song of the Day # 458 Cat Stevens
Cat Stevens on the TV last night on a talk show. So here's Cat Stevens.
Not far off.
Song of the Day # 458 Laurie Anderson
From her brief moment in the commercial sun, 1982's Big Science.
Songs Heard on the Radio # 44 Jayne Mansfield
Featuring Jimi Hendrix. From a single on London Records released shortly before she died. You can buy a copy for £650.00 on Discogs. Perhaps better just to listen to this. Cheers Jarvis!
Song(s) of the Day # 457 Carmel
Another discovery of a weekend spent listening to records at a friend's. Below's the song she's probably best known for. A counterpoint to Lou's Perfect one.
Patti Smith on Lou Reed
A great artist inducts another great artist into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
April 19th 2012 Levon Helm
Song of the Day # 456 Lana Del Rey
It's a while since I've listened to Lara Del Rey. Since the first thing of hers I heard a few years back Video Games which I was entranced with for a few weeks. But I've been down to see an old friend today, we listened to her new record and I was very impressed. Opening track above. In addition here's Video Games which still works for me.
April 18th 1942 Skip Spence
Song of the Day # 455 Daniel Dare
With an old friend in Nottingham. This is the song and artist he introduced me to the night before last.
April 17th 1960 Eddie Cochran
News today about someone who predicted that I'd have a nervous breakdown about twenty years back. Not quite there yet.
Song of the Day #454 Sleaford Mods
In Nottingham. So here are the Sleaford Mods.
16th April 1969 Desmond Dekker
Number 1 in the UK.
Song(s) of the Day # 453 Yazoo
Listening to Upstairs at Eric's. A good start to a morning with an interview with someone call Yazoo coming up later on today.
P.S. Meeting done and dusted. Onwards and upwards! Strange how this album has grown in reputation since it's release. It's patchy, doesn't feel like an entirely self-contained record but it definitely has its moments.
Courtney Barnett - Kim's Caravan
The latest Courtney thing. I think the best thing on the new album. And a quite remarkable promo.
Soul Train # 7 Sly & the Family Stone
From Fresh! Quite remarkable.
Songs About People # 84 / Instrumentals # 29 Jason Donovan / Tessa Sanderson
Three for the price of one. From an instrumental and quite jazzy collection of tracks out recently. It becomes a bit tiresome a few tracks in. I think this is the choice pick.
Song(s) of the Day # 452 Swervedriver
A very fine band. Never quite given the attention they deserve, perhaps through lack of strong personal charisma though there's plenty of personality in the music. Also perhaps because their basic template was the American Road, but they were from Oxford, UK and emerged at the same time, (the early Nineties) as the Shoegazing Bands and so were lazily lumped in their when perhaps they had more in common with Sugar, Pixies and Sonic Youth. I picked two of the more obvious choices from them but there is plenty to choose from. Oh and their new album is great!
Songs Heard on the Radio # 43 Jacques Dutronc
Constantly hearing more Dutronc that I love. Here is just the latest.
April 14th 1932 Loretta Lynn
Song of the Day # 451 The Field Mice
Leading band from UK Independent record label of the Eighties and Nineties. Sensitive is the word.
Viv Nicholson - The Smiths
From The Guardian.
This charming woman: why Morrissey and the Smiths loved Viv Nicholson
She hit the headlines in the 60s for winning – and quickly spending – the football pools. But Viv Nicholson, who has died aged 79, is better known to Smiths’ fans as one of the band’s strong, working-class, striking female cover stars
Viv Nicholson on the cover of Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now by the Smiths.
Laura Barton
The earliest pictures show her in London in 1961, fresh off the train from West Yorkshire, high-kicking in a bowler hat and cane. Beside her – gleeful, bright-eyed, full of wonder – the newspapers printed her legendary quote, announcing her intention to: “Spend, spend, spend!”
Viv Nicholson, who died last weekend aged 79 after a long struggle with dementia, was often held up as a cautionary tale of how vast wealth can soon be frittered. Her image and that headline summed up the story of how she won the Littlewoods football pools with her husband Keith – £152,300, 18 shillings and eight pence – and ran through it all in just four years.
So long Viv Nicholson, the original working-class antihero
Selina Todd
The ‘spend, spend, spend’ pools winner didn’t aspire to be middle class but to enjoy life with the people she loved
But for many music fans, Nicholson’s image meant something more. In 1984, long after the money had all gone, she appeared on the cover of the Smiths’ single Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now, standing in a deserted terraced street, grim-faced in a pale coat, her hair wildly backcombed.
The picture, and Nicholson’s associations, echoed the sentiments of the song – the misery of the working life, the valuable time wasted on those we dislike, the brief, happy haze of a drunken hour – but it was soon reinterpreted and swept up in tabloid scandal.
Keith and Viv Nicholson with their winning cheque in 1961. Photograph: Alamy
The Smiths had chosen as the single’s B-side Suffer Little Children, a song about the Moors murders. Upon its release several newspapers whipped themselves into a fury, suggesting that the song glorified the murderers, even positing that Nicholson had been cast as the record’s cover star because, with her bleach-blond hair and early 60s style, she bore some resemblance to Myra Hindley. Woolworths and Boots duly withdrew the single from sale.
It was not in fact Morrissey’s first tribute to Nicholson – on the Smiths’ debut album he had borrowed the line “Under the iron bridge we kissed, and although I ended up with sore lips …” from her autobiography for the lyrics of the song Still Ill. There was more to come: the following year, the Smiths featured Nicholson on a record sleeve again – this time the German release of Barbarism Begins at Home. The picture had appeared in her autobiography and was titled Viv at the Pithead. It showed her in a crocheted minidress and knee-high boots, standing beside Castleford pit with a suitcase at her feet, and was taken just before she relocated, briefly, to Malta.
The same image would be used on the Meat is Murder tour programme, and it was on that tour, in Blackpool, that Nicholson first met Morrissey. Several years ago she recounted in the Observer the oddity of that first meeting – how surreal it was to walk up to the venue, surrounded by huge promotional pictures of herself. “I was quite astounded,” she said.
Viv Nicholson on the cover of Barbarism Begins at Home by the Smiths.
“I was asked to go up on stage,” she recalled. “There was this young man wearing a hearing aid and thick-rimmed spectacles with a tree hanging out of his backside, and I thought: ‘My goodness, who is that?’ It was Morrissey. Wow, I thought, here’s two weirdos together.” There are still pictures of them together, both short-haired and bespectacled, a strange distorted echo of one another.
In 1987, the Smiths cast Nicholson again for a reissue of The Headmaster Ritual, but this time Nicholson objected to the use of her image – a black and white picture showing her painting at an easel. The problem, apparently, was that as a Jehovah’s Witness, she took issue with the expletive in the line: “Belligerent ghouls/Run Manchester schools/Spineless bastards all …” Nicholson’s friendship with Morrissey promptly soured.
You can place Nicholson beside many other female stars of the Smiths’ record sleeves, among them Rita Tushingham in A Taste of Honey, Patricia Phoenix as Elsie Tanner, Yootha Joyce in a still from Catch Us if You Can, Billie Whitelaw in Charlie Bubbles, the screenwriter Shelagh Delaney, Avril Angers in The Family Way, Alexandra Bastedo, Sandie Shaw, Diana Dors in Yield to the Night, and see the thread that draws them together. They are strong women, working-class sirens, women whose lives have often been touched by tragedy or dragged down by feckless men. Many of them appear to have been trapped in some way, but they have dreamed of escape, and all of them, no matter their circumstance, have clung to their dignity.
Viv Nicholson on the cover of What She Said by the Smiths.
Dignity was not something that was often afforded to Nicholson. Even that early picture had the lick of mockery about it – here is the daft northern factory girl, about to blow her fortune. And ever since, the story of her life seems to have been told merely as a series of numbers and objects: the winning ticket found in Keith’s trouser pocket, the £7 a week she earned at a cake factory, the borrowed tights she wore to collect her winnings, how the first thing she bought was a watch, followed by furs, fancy hats and a fleet of cars in which she unfailingly knocked over the neighbours’ plant pots. There were the three children, the four husbands, the failed boutique and the job in a perfume shop, and above them all, the sense that all of these things added up to nought.
If there is a story that sums up the way the world has regarded Nicholson, it might perhaps be the tale of her failed stint as a stripper in a Manchester nightclub, paid £50 a night to undress to the tune of Big Spender. The job ended abruptly when she dropped her dress but failed to remove her bra and knickers. “I couldn’t do it,” she said. “I just wasn’t a stripper.”
What I like about this story is the fact that Nicholson refused to be reduced to nothing, and in its telling lies a gleam of the woman we see on those Smiths covers: jaw set, steady-gazed and dignified.
Songs Heard on the Radio # 42 Kevin Coyne
A session version on the radio. Not this. The album version. Still nice to hear. Possibly his best song though he had a few. Takes me back twenty years to Dortmund listening to lots of his stuff on Friday nights with a hardcore fan. And beyond that to my Grannie who retired to the town concerned and time spent with her there. Night, night!
April 13th 1946 Al Green
From Peter Green a couple of days back to Al Green.
Song of the Day # 450 Milky Wimpshake
A local Lo-Fi band. Still going strong twenty years in. Nice GCSE French.
Album Reviews # 1 R.E.M Murmur
Life does its work on you. But this is the most important record I'll ever hear. For lots of reasons.
R.E.M. (l-r) Bill Berry, Michael Stipe, Peter Buck, Mike Mills
The first thing you notice in looking at the sleeve and taking the record out to play is the attention to detail. These people really thought about what they wanted things to look like. The name of the album, the lettering, the tangled kudzu grass on the cover, the song titles, the photos of the band. A lot of thought had been put into this. This was an assured and confident group of people.
R.E.M had played scores of dates before this came out. They'd emerged out of the Athens, Georgia college scene which also produced such notables as The B52's, Pylon and Love Tractor amongst others. They'd worked in record shops, played in college bands, done cover versions and worked on half-baked underdeveloped originals while they developed their style and absorbed music and culture to the point where they knew what they wanted to do and how to deliver.
They'd released a mini-album called Chronic Town with some cracking songs but an unrealised vision. Murmur meanwhile is incredibly sure-footed from the off. It kicks off with Radio Free Europe which is a statement of intent. It's pretty close to some Who stuff in terms of dynamics but offers something never heard before and builds and builds 'til the killer punch on the final chorus. Something's afoot.
Pilgrimage continues in pretty much the same vein. It's not clear what Michael Stipe is singing about. This is a consistent feature throughout and one of the main reasons I really fell in love with this album. Somebody suggested that Mumble might be a better album title than Murmur.The band responded that you wouldn't get the script of the film you were going to see when you went to the cinema so why should you be spoonfed here. The lyrics that are discernable - 'rest assured this will not last,' 'the pilgrimage has gained momentum' are about movement, change and growth. Just the stuff to appeal to pale, literate, teenage boys. The vocals from drummer Bill Berry and bassist Mike Mills here are extraordinary and to my mind unprecedented.
Laughing draws on Greek myth and Talk About the Passion talks about poverty. In a way it's the most conventional thing on here chiming like a post punk Byrds. Moral Kiosk is more urgent. Both of these songs are political but in an oblique way. R.E.M emerged at pretty much the same time as Reaganomics. They became more explicit on later albums in terms of their critique of what was going on. I'm not really sure if they became more effective.
Perfect Circle is often mentioned as one of the band's favourite songs. Quite rightly so. It's supposedly inspired by Stipe watching a group of kids playing baseball. I imagine it also may be about being in a great band with a group of friends
Catapult starts the second side and may be the weakest song on the album but was once considered the potential break-out single and New Order's producer Stephen Hague was brought in for an ill-judged remix. Sitting Still which is up next is indescribably good. I think I almost cried on hearing it first. You'll do well to hear a whole line of coherent lyrics here. It's all emotion and youth.
9-9 is the least conventional song and it took me a while to come to terms with it. Again there are Who dynamics there and it's reputed to have a Gang of Four influence though I've never really heard it myself. Shaking Through is marginally the longest song on the album and one of the best. Like much of the album it's driven by a beat generation inspired optimism and fervour. Great use of piano here.
We Walk is truly Southern. The album draws on Southern fiction throughout. Carson McCullers, Flannery O'Connor and William Faulkner are all there. We Walk is pure Harper Lee, pretty much hokum but the band is so assured that they pull it off. Even their jokey song is pretty much streets ahead of the competition. The Smiths were the only guitar band firing on this level for me at this point.
This leaves us with West of the Fields. A song that to all intents and purposes is about death with more Greek myth in the mix. But despite the theme they gallop back for one more chorus to bring the album home.
I love this LP pretty much more than any other. It never tires or dates for me and if you're not familiar I suggest you give it a go. I used to listen to it time after time at the top of the house in Teddington. It cast a spell on me! I would listen through to it differently every time alternatively the vocals, the production, Peter Buck's guitar work, the bass or the backing vocals and hear something new every time. R.E.M produced several great albums and I'll write about them on here at some point but for now I'll just commend this album.
I've no idea how often I've listened to this record or how much I'll listen to it. I'm immersed in it. It's part of me. Everybody should have a record that means this much to them. When I put it on to listen to it today part of me wanted to go back to that time and space I listened to it first as an eighteen year old on the top floor of my parent's house in Teddington. But I can't go back there Nor do I want to. I'm in a different time and space and happy to be here.But I will always love and listen to that album. I will age while it won't. Perhaps it's my Picture of Dorian Grey.
Soul Train # 6 Rufus
Featuring Chaka Khan. Written by Stevie Wonder.
Song of the Day # 449 Bop English
New album from White Denim frontman James Petralli's side-project. Consistently interesting and diverse.
April 11th 1970 Peter Green
Peter Green left Fleetwood Mac.
Things I've Found on My Local's Jukebox # 66 Brian Eno
Found Here Come the Warm Jets on the jukebox. Baby's on Fire is going on at some point.
Song of the Day # 448 Ultravox
April 10th 1967 Marvin Gaye
Recorded today.
Song of the Day # 447 Sonic Youth
Speaks for itself.
Copy Cats # 11 Sandra Church
The end of this particular series. A very good one. On to the next!
Song of the Day # 446 Blur
It's taken a long time to get to Blur on this series. I have quite a bit of time for them despite a tendency of theirs to be pretty obnoxious in their youth. I guess that's what youth is for. 'Sci-Fi Folk' ,ishow they describe it. Evocative, as the best Blur songs are. Reminiscent of their mid-Nineties stuff in terms of its lyrics and attitude but with a slightly more globalised sound.
Songs Heard on the Radio # 41 Broadcast
Night night. Sleep tight!
8th April 1942 Roger Chapman
Copy Cats # 11 The Shangri-Las
More tears. From two of the greatest songs to one of the greatest Girl Groups.
Song of the Day #445 The Mighty Lemondrops
The Mighty Lemondrops, from Wolverhampton, had their brief spell in the Indie sun in the Mid-Eighties. Their big moment was Like An Angel, which like most off their stuff drew its ingredients from The Doors, The Bunnymen and The Teardrop Explodes. Here's a slightly smaller moment.
7th April 1915 Billie Holliday
Would have been a Hundred today. Sadly she didn't even make it halfway.
Copy Cats # 10 Dion
And in this series from one of the best singles ever made to another.
Song(s) of the Day # 444 Los Yorks
Last year I discovered Los Saicos, a great Peruvian Garage band from the Mid-Sixties. Here's another. Not quite as 'rediscovered' as Los Saicos as their records fetch exorbitant prices but worthy of notice. Here's their cover of The Box Tops The Letter.
Courtney Barnett Newcastle University 31st March 2015
Lester Bangs in a famous interview, (posted above), discussed the malaise in Rock Music in the Mid-Seventies. He said something along the lines that something came along every ten years Frank Sinatra, Elvis, The Beatles and then... He claimed nothing. Punk turned up just a little later.
The same thing has pretty much worked for me too, since I became actively engaged and committed to music about six or seven years after he made these comments. First R.E.M. in the Eighties when they first arrived in the UK, though it could easily have been The Smiths. Nirvana in the Nineties, The Strokes ten years later and now, for me at least, Courtney.I'm not suggesting these artists are the most significant artists in their decades by any means. They're just the ones I paid most attention to. They're all essentially quite straightforward, back to basics beat bands with clever lyricists. But if I drew a personal parallel with Bang's comments for myself those would be the ones I'd pick
I'm also not making inflated claims for Courtney Barnett and her band's significance. They're not going to be headlining Glastonbury at any point soon. Neither are they going to change the world. Nor would I imagine would they want to do either. Or even that I would want them to. But she and they've got something that very little else around have now.
Personality might have something to do with it. Courtney Barnett in her small, modest way has it in spades.We're living in an age which almost actively discourages individuality. She's a throwback. There's plenty of great music out there, Day in day out I'm discovering it and posting stuff on this blog. But there's very little strong personality leaping out at you as was the norm in the Sixties and Seventies and which seemed to wither and die on the vine through the Eighties and Nineties as Counterculture Anti-Establishment Rock Stars became a thing of the past and those who persevered became grist to the industry mill and eaten up within the machine. We ended up with plenty of good music but very few people actually saying anything much. At least in the mainstream. Most of this stuff seems to have been chased to the margins now. As a consequence we also ended up with U2, Oasis and Coldplay s the big 'important' acts rather than Creedence, The Clash and Nirvana. Very little rage against the machine. Or inside the machine for that matter.
There are exceptions to this still of course. P J Harvey leaps to mind. Nick Cave I guess. But neither of these have shows on Saturday Night Television the way that somebody like Johnny Cash did. Generally in the same way as we've become more passive, more content, less politically engaged in the West, or else locked out of the whole thing as the increasing disenfranchised poor in our societies have been, so we've been satisfied with processed music just as much as processed meals . Music that's either nonsense Reality Show bilge or music, (as good as it might be), as lifestyle choice to distract us from real life in its most important sense rather than engage us with it.
Courtney Barnett and her band are not going to change any of this. They're merely the new thing that have excited me most recently. They won't be to everyone's taste. I sent a circular round to like-minded colleagues at work and no-one wanted to come along so I went on my own. More fool those people! But the band are doing their small, smart thing and I'm grateful, as I've said on here before. I also spoke to them very briefly when I saw them in the bar before they played. I went over and told them excitedly that my brother-in-law had made the promotional chair that they were using in photos for the tour. The whole band nodded enthusiastically and said things along the lines of 'Yeah, really great chair'. My sister when I told her about it later said 'Well what were they supposed to say?' but that's family for you! Really Alison they're just nice people and it really is a great chair. Anyway I shuffled off, not wanting to bother them. I'm Forty Nine years old and shouldn't feel like I'm Fifteen just to be in the presence of people who I admire and whose work I respect. But I did.
Of course they were great later on that evening. Playing in a much bigger venue than they did last time they were in Newcastle, a fact Courtney commented on. This time an utterly soulless, corporate university room but they filled it with personality. They're gradually moving on from that early sound which was still evident in the older songs here, of a three piece trio building on the melody, energy, wit and power of those great Nirvana records to a broader, slightly but only slightly more commercial sound. Augmented by Stephen Luscome from The Drones on their new record though not on this tour it's made them sound more realised and ambitious without losing what made them special in the first place. A difficult act to pull off. I look forward to the next time they play here though I don't imagine it'll be for a while and possibly in a bigger venue still. In the meantime, here's another picture of that chair and the band appreciating it. As we all agreed, a really great chair!
I'll dedicate this to my friend Rod, supporter of this blog, (I imagine you'll read this), and fellow traveler musically. Go see them if you get another chance!
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What Do You Do When YouTube Freezes in the Middle of an Upload?
by Kefa Olang
Having a YouTube upload freeze in the middle is frustrating and a waste of time, but you can fix and avoid it. Network connection problems, browser issues and interference from security software commonly cause YouTube to stop responding in the middle of an upload. Fixing these issues can prevent future upload problems, and so can adhering to YouTube's file requirements.
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Even with a broadband connection speed that meets YouTube's requirements, YouTube can freeze in the middle of a video upload if your network suddenly stalls or stops working completely. Causes of network connection problems vary with different users; however, busy wireless connection signals and problems with the Internet service provider are common causes of upload problems. If you're unable open other browsing pages and other network-intensive applications in addition to the YouTube video uploading problems, restarting your wireless router can solve simple network connection issues. If the router is the problem, connecting the computer directly to a modem using an Ethernet cable bypasses the router, which can actually improve the stability of your connection at the cost of your wireless network. If your network connection problem persists, contacting your ISP for additional device-specific troubleshooting is the last solution.
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Early ART initiation among HIV-positive pregnant women in central Mozambique: a stepped wedge randomized controlled trial of an optimized Option B+ approach
James F Cowan1, 2Email author,
Mark Micek2,
Jessica F Greenberg Cowan2, 3,
Manuel Napúa5,
Roxanne Hoek2,
Sarah Gimbel1, 2, 6,
Stephen Gloyd1, 2,
Kenneth Sherr1, 2,
James T Pfeiffer1, 2, 4 and
Rachel R Chapman1, 2, 4
Implementation Science201510:61
© Cowan et al.; licensee BioMed Central. 2015
Received: 1 April 2015
Despite effective prevention strategies and increasing investments in global health, maternal to child transmission (MTCT) of HIV remains a significant problem globally, especially in sub-Saharan Africa. In 2012, there were 94,000 HIV-positive pregnant women in Mozambique. Approximately 15% of these women transmitted HIV to their newborn infants, resulting in nearly 14,000 new pediatric HIV infections that year. To address this issue, in 2013, the Mozambican Ministry of Health implemented the World Health Organization-recommended “Option B+” strategy in which all newly diagnosed HIV-positive pregnant women are counseled to initiate combination anti-retroviral therapy (ART) immediately upon diagnosis regardless of CD4 count and to continue treatment for life. Given the limited experience with Option B+ in sub-Saharan Africa, few rigorous pragmatic trials have studied this new treatment strategy.
This study utilizes an initial formative research process involving patient and health care provider interviews and focus groups, workforce assessments, value stream mapping, and commodity utilization assessments to understand the strengths and weaknesses in the current Option B+ care cascade. The formative research is intended to guide identification and prioritization of key workflow modifications and the development of an enhanced adherence and retention package. These two components are bundled into a defined intervention implemented and evaluated across six health facilities utilizing a stepped wedge randomized controlled trial study design. The overall objective of this trial is to develop and test a pilot intervention in central Mozambique to implement the new Option B+ guidelines with high fidelity and increase the proportion of HIV-positive pregnant women in target antenatal clinics (ANC) who start ART prior to delivery and are retained in care.
This pragmatic study utilizes research strategies that have the potential to meaningfully improve the Option B+ care cascade in central Mozambique and to decrease the MTCT of HIV. This trial is designed to identify critical low-cost improvement strategies that can be bundled into a defined intervention. If this intervention has a measurable impact, it can be rapidly scaled up to other ANC in Mozambique and sub-Saharan Africa.
ClinicalTrials.gov: NCT02371265.
Option B+
PMTCT
Stepped wedge randomized controlled trial
Care cascade analysis
HIV remains the leading cause of death globally among women of reproductive age [1-3]. In 2012, only 62% of pregnant women were tested for HIV and started on antiviral therapy [1]. An estimated 90% of the world’s 2.5 million children under 15 years old living with HIV are in sub-Saharan Africa [4]. Over 95% of pediatric HIV infections result from mother-to-child transmission (MTCT) [4]. The rate of MTCT of HIV is 20%–45%, 15%–30% transmission risk in utero or at delivery, and 5%–20% risk through breastfeeding overall, reaching 30%–60% in low- and middle-income countries (LMIC) [5,6]. Without treatment, half of all children living with HIV die by their second birthday [2]. Short courses of anti-retroviral (ARV) drugs started early in pregnancy or during labor can reduce the risk of in utero and peripartum HIV transmission two- to threefold [5]. In resource-poor settings where caesarean delivery is rarely available or safe, initial prevention of MTCT (PMTCT) efforts focused on reducing MTCT using ARV therapy during labor and delivery, promotion of exclusive breastfeeding for 6 months, and then complete breastfeeding cessation [7-10]. PMTCT includes testing and counseling, family planning counseling, provision of an appropriate anti-retroviral regimen for women and newborns, and support for safer infant feeding.
In Africa, a troubling pattern of loss to follow-up (LTFU) has emerged at each stage of the PMTCT “treatment cascade.” A 2004 study in South Africa showed a loss-to-follow-up rate of 85% at 12 months by HIV-exposed infants [11,12]. Data from Malawi in 2005 showed cumulative loss-to-follow-up rates of 55% as early as the 36th week of pregnancy, 68% at delivery, 70% at 1st postnatal visit, and 81% at the baby’s 6-month postnatal visit in rural district hospitals [13]. Data from Kenya reveal high drop-out rates as well: 31.5% of HIV-positive women do not return for their HIV test results, 53.6% of those who got their results did not enroll in an HIV clinic, and 80.7% do not return for delivery [12].
Mozambique’s 11.1% HIV prevalence rate and under-5 mortality rate of 87 per 1,000 live births are among the most severe in sub-Saharan Africa [1,14]. Mozambique began the scale-up of free national HIV care services in 2004 including combination anti-retroviral triple therapy (ART), and by 2012, an estimated 282,000 people had started ART [1,3]. The national PMTCT program, initiated in 2002 provides free HIV counseling and universal opt-out testing for pregnant women attending antenatal clinics (ANC) and maternities. Despite many successful efforts such as the scale-up of ART and the use of ARVs during labor and delivery for most HIV-positive pregnant woman, in 2012, Mozambique still reported over 77,000 AIDS-related deaths, 120,000 new HIV-infected individuals including 14,000 infants, and 1,600,000 adults and children living with HIV [1,3]. During 2012, there were an estimated 94,000 HIV-positive pregnant women in Mozambique and 79% received some form of ARV therapy (approximately 65,000 got zidovudine (AZT) and 10,000 ART) [1,3]. Despite this fact, 15% of HIV-positive pregnant women transmitted HIV to their newborn infants, resulting in the majority of the 14,000 pediatric HIV infections that year [1]. As a result, treating HIV-positive pregnant women with combination ART and not just AZT to prevent new pediatric HIV infections is a major strategic priority for the Mozambique Ministry of Health (MoH) [3].
In 2010, the World Health Organization (WHO) developed new treatment guidelines, termed “Option B,” that emphasized early initiation of ART in antenatal care for all HIV-positive pregnant women [15]. According to Option B, those with CD4 ≤ 350 cell/mm3 initiate ART as therapy for life, while those with CD4 > 350 start ART in ANC as prophylaxis and discontinue treatment after cessation of breastfeeding. In 2012, the WHO issued a programmatic update endorsing a third option termed “Option B+” in which HIV-positive pregnant women initiate ART during pregnancy regardless of CD4 count and continue treatment for life [16]. In sub-Saharan Africa, Option B+ was first piloted and then widely implemented in Malawi [17,18].
The new Option B+ approach has been adopted by the MoH in Mozambique and is in the adolescent phase of implementation. As in many African settings, numerous health system factors present major challenges to successful adoption of the guidelines [18,19]. In Mozambique, ANC and HIV testing coverage is high but there is substantial LTFU at successive stages in the treatment cascade, limited counseling for women, and many barriers to actively track those women lost to follow-up [20]. Early MoH data suggests significant challenges remain for retention in care and adherence for women started on ART via the new Option B+ framework in Manica and Sofala provinces and throughout Mozambique. The successful implementation of new Option B+ WHO guidelines therefore requires major streamlining of links among ANC, PMTCT, and ART services to successfully reduce the rates of pediatric HIV infection in Mozambique.
The overall objective of this study is to develop and test a pilot intervention in central Mozambique to implement the new WHO guidelines with high fidelity and increase the proportion of HIV-positive pregnant women in target ANC clinics who start ART prior to delivery and improve retention in acre after 90 days. The intervention emphasizes a WHO-defined Option B+ approach; HIV-positive mothers will be referred for ART at the time they receive a positive HIV test result during their first ANC visit.
Trial design
The project utilizes an initial formative research process to understand inefficiencies in the current Option B+ care cascade, to guide identification and prioritization of key workflow modifications and the development of an enhanced adherence and retention package. These two components, described in detail below, are bundled into a defined intervention implemented and evaluated across six health facilities utilizing a stepped wedge randomized controlled trial (with the health facility as the unit of randomization).
Study facilities and setting
As a facility-level intervention, the proposed “test-and-treat” Option B+ intervention is implemented through a stepped wedge design (described below) in six high-volume health centers providing PMTCT and ART services in the Mozambican national health system. These health centers serve communities along the highly populated Beira highway and railway transport corridor that passes through Sofala and Manica provinces (Figure 1), from the port city of Beira on the Indian Ocean to the Zimbabwe border [21].
Map of Mozambique—provinces and provincial capitals [12].
Intervention sites include three health facilities in Sofala Province (Macarungo, Munhava, and Dondo) and three in Manica Province (Nhamaonha, 1° de Maio, and Gondola). All of these public health facilities provide the full range of PMTCT services, including HIV testing, access to CD4 testing (four out of six through transport to a central lab), and ART. ART has already been decentralized to ANC through MoH trainings. The intervention will be designed to enhance the new national MoH Option B+ ART policy in which all pregnant women attending their first ANC visit will be tested for HIV and, if positive, will be provided with first-line triple ART (TDF + 3TC + EFV, single daily fixed-dose combination) during that same visit, or within 14 days of the first visit and HIV test.
Central Mozambique
In the central provinces of Sofala and Manica where the research is conducted, the provincial HIV prevalence rates of adults aged 15–49 years are among the highest in the country for women at 15.6% and 17.8%, respectively, and 14.8% and 12.6% for men [22]. The prevalence among pregnant women in 2009 was estimated at 18% [23,24]. HIV testing and treatment services in Manica and Sofala provinces have been scaled up with technical and financial support from Health Alliance International (HAI), a US non-profit affiliated with the University of Washington, School of Public Health. By early 2010, ART had been made available in 39 public sector sites [24]. In Manica, over 15,000 and, in Sofala, nearly 22,000 Mozambicans have started ART.
In 2010, PMTCT services were offered in routine antenatal care in 93 health facilities in Manica and 110 facilities in Sofala. First ANC visit coverage is consistently high at over 90% for Sofala and Manica provinces [24,25]. HIV testing at the first ANC visit has also attained consistently high rates of 90% in both provinces through the current opt-out testing program [25]. However, on average, women arrive late, between 19 and 25 weeks mean gestational age (unpublished data).
Prior to the introduction of Option B+, there were a number of documented challenges in the PMTCT care cascade: eligible HIV-positive pregnant women were referred to adult ART services but only about 20% started ART, only 29% of HIV-positive mothers received nevirapine during labor in central Mozambique, and only 60% of births occurred at a health care facility [22-24].
Recent preliminary studies (2009–2010) conducted in the proposed research sites by UW and HAI researchers confirmed these previously reported barriers to care and sources of LTFU. A recent study of ART initiation and the PMTCT treatment cascade in seven large health centers in Manica and Sofala, which include two of the target sites included in this proposal (Munhava highlighted in Figure 2 and Nhamaonha), showed major LTFU and very small proportions of eligible positive mothers initiating ART [20].
Munhava health center PMTCT patient flow.
This observational study, led by Chris Dodd and Jennifer Einberg, examined PMTCT LTFU under the previous protocol. The proportion that started ART varied significantly across the sites, but was low for each. Only about 40% of HIV-positive women actually received their CD4 results within 30 days of the first ANC visit, and only 40% of those eligible managed to start ART. Overall, only 19.3% of eligible women started ART across all the sites (see Figure 3). Province-wide program data from 2010 suggest similar patterns; only about 10% (8% in Manica and 12% in Sofala) of HIV-positive pregnant women started ART, while data suggests that an estimated 40% were actually eligible based on the protocol for ART initiation at that time [25].
Aggregate flow cascade through seven health centers in Manica and Sofala provinces (2009).
Three recent qualitative studies by HAI researchers that focus on patient experience further corroborate sources of LTFU from the perspective of patients. Patients reported that requirement for multiple visits prior to ART initiation created major barriers for women because of transport costs and fears of unintentional HIV status disclosure causing stigmatization [26,27]. The last study revealed major gaps in understanding among HIV-positive women about steps to follow for care, benefits of care, and lack of system tools to support patient follow-up to ART and through postpartum visits. Women reported confusion about integrated ANC services, the purpose of the various tests and treatments provided (i.e., syphilis testing and treatment, IPT for malaria, and HIV and CD4 testing), and the need for follow-up visits [28].
Together, these studies indicate that PMTCT services and ART referrals require excessive repeat visits, provide insufficient information to patients, and lack patient tracking tools to ensure follow-up. The CD4 testing process and subsequent preparatory visits were associated with major delays and drop-offs in initiating ART and LTFU. Based on this evidence, interventions to increase earlier ART initiation and subsequent treatment adherence will require major streamlining of the process coupled with improved adherence counseling [29]. The Option B+ approach provides a model to achieve this streamlining if appropriately designed to capitalize on the strengths and recognize the constraints in the Mozambique heath system.
Randomization
The introduction of the intervention in the study sites will occur in three steps following a stepped wedge design [30]. Prior to randomization, the six sites were stratified by province, and one site from each province (two total) was randomly selected to initiate the intervention at each of three stepped time points (months 5, 8, and 11; see Figure 4). Each step is separated by 3 months to allow an adequate number of people to be tested and initiate ART in each site (1.5 months, i.e., 1 month testing plus 14 days) and outcomes to be measured prior to the subsequent step (1.5 months, i.e., 45 days post-ART initiation). The implementation process includes staff training, integration of new adherence strategies, and intensive supervision and mentorship by the study staff and health facility managers to troubleshoot problems that arise.
Stepped wedge design of the implementation of test-and-treat intervention in PMTCT programs in central Mozambique.
Intervention description
Step one: formative research to improve the Option B+ protocol and model
During the first year of the project, researchers conducted formative research at the six selected sites to determine how to best adapt the Option B+ model to the six facilities. The research consists of these major activities:
Patient flow mapping: Researchers mapped current patient flow patterns in the PMTCT treatment cascade and links to ART services at each of six target sites to identify differences and commonalities among the sites similar to the example from Munhava heath center presented in Figure 2. Future state flow maps have been created for each site to demonstrate new flow pathways required for Option B+ in collaboration with health center staff and managers. Health systems data for each site, including the monthly number of ANC visits, new ANC enrollees, new ANC enrollees tested for HIV, CD4 tests ordered and received, and the number of patients started on lifelong ART were collected to identify LTFU in the treatment cascade and ART initiation rates. These data were gathered from ANC registries, pharmacy registries, and ART clinic databases.
Workforce: Patient volume in ANC and outpatient ART services was determined for each site during supervision visits. Staffing level, patient waiting times, and patient flow were examined for each site to identify workforce-related bottlenecks. Staffing levels and training needs required to manage new patient flows were identified for each site and incorporated into new patient flow mapping.
Flow mapping of materials and medications: Flow and adequacy of key testing materials (HIV and CD4 testing materials), laboratory monitoring resources, and medications required for ART and other HIV care were examined for each health unit by assessing pharmacy and facility records and stock-out patterns. Current and future state flow mapping diagrams were produced for each site to indicate proposed medication, test materials, and patient flow changes and projections. Investigators also flow mapped laboratory monitoring protocols such as timing of biochemical panels, liver function testing, and complete blood count testing as determined by national MoH protocols. The pilot sites follow MoH protocol for initiating ART and monitoring patients following ART start.
Patient and health worker perspectives: Separate qualitative focus group discussions (FGDs) were conducted with ANC patients, health workers, and counselors at ANC services, pharmacy, and outpatient services at each site to a) elicit perceptions of ART provision to pregnant women, b) solicit engagement in development of new Option B+ procedures, and c) identify key challenges to providing treatment. Researchers will also conduct individual interviews with facility directors and managers to support development of new pilot “Option B+” policies and protocols. The focus groups were conducted by a trained interviewer using open-ended, semi-structured interview guides, and we will plan to have ten patients and eight health care workers participate in FGDs or interviews at each site. Notes were taken by a trained notetaker and reviewed to identify themes, suggestions, and barriers to implementation.
Process measures: Process measures appropriate to all sites were defined and data collection procedures established to measure fidelity to the core components of the intervention as it is implemented across the research sites. For example, measures may include proportion of patient records properly indicating timely counseling sessions or the first follow-up visit adherence rates in ANC.
Step two: develop the Option B+ intervention components: workflow modifications and an adherence and retention package
At the end of the formative research process in year 1, researchers developed key intervention materials together with the district and provincial directorates and the Beira Operations Research Center (CIOB), part of the Mozambican MoH, and review them for approval with health personnel at each site. Based on formative research findings produced in achieving the original specific aims 1 and 2, the following core components of the B+ study intervention have been designed and will be stepped in at the study sites to improve early retention in care and adherence:
Option B+ study core components
ANC workflow modification
Additional SMI nurse at each site to support clinical work but also focus on coordinating patient follow-up and use of SMS and phone calls.
Workflow modification and specification at each site to define specific tasks for each nurse to optimize patient flow efficiency and reduce workload. Develop and distribute corresponding job aids.
Additional community health workers (CHWs) at each site as needed who can help with patient file management, calling/texting patients, home visits, and patient tracking.
Adherence and retention package
Facilitate monthly clinical chart review:
Facility clinical director together with maternal child health (MCH) nurses conducts meetings.
Adherence committee (AC):
The committee consisting of MCH nurses and CHWs meets weekly to review individual patient adherence and coordinate follow-up strategies including active follow-up and texting.
MCH nurses together with activistas coordinate intensified follow-up of each mother in the first weeks after the first initiation of ART in ANC, using texting and home visits to encourage return for the scheduled 7-day and subsequent visits during the first 30-day period.
Following each AC meeting, the chief MCH nurse coordinates and ensures follow-up with patients by CHWs through systematic use of:
SMS texting protocol developed to define messages and timing.
Home visits with systematic supervision and follow-through using supervision checklist and AC review.
Enhanced and intensified counseling:
Modified messaging for the first counseling session with repeat counseling for each visit in first 30 days (7 days, 3 weeks, and before the first 30-day refill) and subsequent visits using content of the counseling over the next several months, based in part on data from formative research period and approved by MoH. Content includes enhanced counseling about partner notification and testing, side effects, and explanation of the ART/ANC process, with dissemination of intensified counseling messages to peer support groups.
Supportive supervision: continuous quality improvement approach (CQI):
Refresher ART and Option B+ training provided for all staff involved.
The AC conducts monthly health facility ANC/ART data review to trouble shoot and resolve bottlenecks in patient flow.
Option B+ checklist provided to clinical director at each HF to ensure quality in registry and patient file data collection, patient tracking processes registries properly filled out, and patient follow-up conducted.
Option B+ checklist provided to MCH nurse for supervision of CHW patient follow-up.
Step three: stepped implementation of the Option B+ intervention bundle with concurrent impact evaluation
Following the development of intervention components and before intervention implementation, in each facility as they are stepped in (designated as the “S” in Figure 4), a total of 25 staff (ANC nurses, receptionists, physicians, and physicians assistants or técnicos) participate in a 1-week training. The intervention bundle will be rolled out across the six intervention sites in three steps as described in Figure 4. The trainings focus on the MoH Option B+ protocol and the intervention core components as described above. Implementation trainings will include: a) refresher trainings on ART provision for MCH (SMI) nurses; b) new Option B+ policies, procedures, and drug regimes; c) laboratory testing protocols including CD4 count, hemograms, liver function testing, and biochemical panels as outlined by MOH PMTCT guidelines; d) new flow charts, job aids, treatment checklists, and data collection procedures; e) patient visit schedule for ANC and ART follow-up consultations through final postpartum visit; f) postpartum visit procedures for transfer and referrals of ART patients to outpatient services; and g) supervision procedures by physicians or physician assistants (técnicos) from outpatient services. Data will be collected as described below and will be evaluated in near real time to allow for concurrent impact evaluation.
Implementation process measures
Throughout the intervention period, research teams will engage in process evaluation procedures to monitor the intervention and outcomes. These will include indicators for HIV testing, ART initiation, pharmacy refill rates, patient follow-up through visits and texts, adherence committee meetings, counseling sessions, and other key intervention activities. Researchers will conduct interviews with health workers to troubleshoot workflow challenges and bottlenecks and evaluate supervision practices. The process evaluation includes the following components:
Weekly visits
During the first 6 weeks of intervention at each facility: discussions with health workers (not requiring consent) to “fine tune” and adjust the intervention (while retaining core components).
Monthly visits to health facilities
Routine health facility data for outcome indicators collected monthly from registries and patient files.
Discussions with health workers (not requiring consent) to “fine tune” and adjust the intervention (while retaining core components).
Collect information concerning fidelity to core components as defined above.
Quarterly visits
Individual interviews (consented) with key health staff, including activists to assess intervention strengths and challenges.
Focus group discussions with HIV+ mothers (consented) who have initiated ART to assess intervention strengths and challenges.
Stepped wedge schedule
Key outcomes measured and calculated per stepped wedge schedule collected from registries and patient files.
Study timeline
Year 1 focused primarily on formative research. Year 2 included designing the intervention and seeking IRB and MoH approvals, and in year 3, the intervention will be rolled out following the stepped wedge design with concurrent evaluation of impact as outlined in Figure 4.
Study measures and primary outcomes
We will measure early retention by calculating scheduled 30-day visit rates for pharmacy refill (up to 45 days from ART initiation) among women who initiate ART under the study intervention model and compare these rates to women starting ART before the intervention, while controlling for trends over time. We will also calculate 90-day adherence rates among women who initiate ART under the study intervention model and compare these rates to women starting ART before the intervention, while controlling for trends over time. We hypothesize that the proportion of women initiating ART during the intervention phase who return for their 30-day refill visit within 45 days will increase from 50% to at least 70%. We also hypothesize that the proportion of women initiating ART during the intervention phase who have 90-day ART adherence rates ≥90% based on pharmacy refill data will increase from 40% to a least 60%.
As a secondary, but critical, outcome, we will measure, monitor, and compare the proportion of HIV-positive pregnant women starting appropriate ART within 14 days of HIV testing before and after the intervention. Option B+ rollout data for ART initiation collected during the formative research period have varied widely among the six sites; however, MoH officials are confident that ART initiation rates will improve substantially and stabilize at a higher level using current protocols before the intervention begins, so follow-up remains the greater challenge. The intervention will seek to ensure that each site achieves at least 75% ART initiation (of mothers testing HIV-positive) within 14 days of HIV testing, and researchers will monitor and troubleshoot site performance throughout the research period. Study outcomes are summarized in Table 1.
Option B+ stepped wedge study outcomes measures
Study measure
Numerator/denominator
1. First month ART pharmacy refill rates for newly diagnosed HIV-positive pregnant women
\( \frac{\#\ \mathrm{of}\ \mathrm{newly}\ \mathrm{diagnosed}\ \mathrm{H}\mathrm{I}\mathrm{V}\hbox{-} \mathrm{positive}\ \mathrm{pregnant}\ \mathrm{women}}{\#\ \mathrm{of}\ \mathrm{newly}\ \mathrm{diagnosed}\ \mathrm{H}\mathrm{I}\mathrm{V}\hbox{-} \mathrm{positive}\ \mathrm{pregnant}\ \mathrm{women}\ \mathrm{that}\ \mathrm{refill}\ \mathrm{their}\ \mathrm{ART}\ \mathrm{prescription}\ \mathrm{within}\ 45\ \mathrm{days}\ \mathrm{of}\ \mathrm{diagnosis}} \)
2. 90-day ART pharmacy refill rates for newly diagnosed HIV-positive pregnant women
\( \frac{\#\ \mathrm{of}\ \mathrm{newly}\ \mathrm{diagnosed}\ \mathrm{H}\mathrm{I}\mathrm{V}\hbox{-} \mathrm{positive}\ \mathrm{pregnant}\ \mathrm{women}}{\#\ \mathrm{of}\ \mathrm{newly}\ \mathrm{diagnosed}\ \mathrm{H}\mathrm{I}\mathrm{V}\hbox{-} \mathrm{positive}\ \mathrm{pregnant}\ \mathrm{women}\ \mathrm{that}\ \mathrm{routinely}\ \mathrm{refill}\ \mathrm{the}\mathrm{ir}\ \mathrm{ART}\ \mathrm{medications}\ \mathrm{during}\ \mathrm{the}\ 90\ \mathrm{days}\ \mathrm{after}\ \mathrm{the}\mathrm{ir}\ \mathrm{diagnosis}} \)
3. The percentage of newly diagnosed HIV-positive pregnant women that initiate ART within 14 days
\( \frac{\#\ \mathrm{of}\ \mathrm{newly}\ \mathrm{diagnosed}\ \mathrm{H}\mathrm{I}\mathrm{V}\hbox{-} \mathrm{positive}\ \mathrm{pregnant}\ \mathrm{women}}{\#\ \mathrm{of}\ \mathrm{newly}\ \mathrm{diagnosed}\ \mathrm{H}\mathrm{I}\mathrm{V}\hbox{-} \mathrm{positive}\ \mathrm{pregnant}\ \mathrm{women}\ \mathrm{that}\ \mathrm{initiate}\ \mathrm{ART}\ \mathrm{within}\ 14\ \mathrm{days}\ \mathrm{of}\ \mathrm{their}\ \mathrm{diagnosis}} \)
ART anti-retroviral therapy, HIV human immunodeficiency virus, PMTCT prevention of maternal to child transmission of HIV.
Research teams will measure patient ART adherence by extracting data from routine health records. There are three sets of patient health records system that researchers will have access to for each subject: 1) the ANC registry that is completed for every woman in her initial ANC consultation, 2) the HIV treatment registry and chart that is used for each patient who initiates ART, and 3) the refill records of the pharmacy. The data extracted from each of these sources will be consolidated into a single Microsoft Access database. Once consolidated in the new data set, the patients will be identified using a new study-specific identification number in the data set for analysis. Data extraction from registries is performed by trained study team members in each facility and compared for consistency. In cases of inconsistency, data collection will be repeated.
All data will be collected in Mozambique and analyzed using Stata SE (StataCorp, College Station, TX). We will compare outcomes in the pre- and post-intervention phases and will use an intention-to-treat analysis that adjusts for clustering by health facility and changes over time. Two analysis approaches will be considered.
First, if each measurement period has a similar number of observations per period per site, each site will contribute four outcome measurements for 30-day ART pharmacy refill rates over time (one for each step period described in Figure 4), and the outcome measures (proportions) will be collapsed into continuous numeric variables. We will then perform a linear regression analysis for repeated measure panel data, specifying our outcome as the dependent (continuous) variable and intervention status (yes/no) as the main independent variable, while adjusting for time and first-level autocorrelation between successive measures. Health facility will be specified as the panel to control for clustering by clinic.
If the number of observations does vary over time and between sites, we will do an alternative individual-level analysis that uses individual-level data with the outcome coded in a bivariate format (yes/no). We will then use logistic regression to determine the relationship between the outcome and the intervention period (pre vs. post), while controlling for time period and clustering by site.
The analysis will also focus on the calculation of 90-day ART adherence dichotomized into good/poor as described above, among all patients starting ART in the post-intervention phase. To determine if over 60% of those initiating ART have good adherence, we will calculate 95% confidence intervals using the binomial method and determine whether this interval includes (or is above) the goal of 60%. We will compare the proportion of patients with good 90-day adherence in the pre- vs. post-intervention phase, using the same stepped wedge methodology described above.
The power calculation for this study is based on the primary outcome (proportion of HIV-positive pregnant women starting ART who return within 45 days for the first 30-day refill) and based on published calculations for stepped wedge designs [30]. For this calculation, we estimate that at minimum 30 new HIV-positive women will initiate ART in each of the ANC centers for each 1-month measurement period and that the baseline proportion of women returning within 45 days is 50%, based on data from formative research. For a two-sided α of 0.05 and an estimated coefficient of variation (k) between facilities of 0.2, we would have 84.4% power to detect an expected increase in our post-intervention outcome of 20% (i.e., from 50% to 70%). The power changes minimally with varying coefficients of variation (i.e., 82.0% power with k = 0.4). To maintain at least 80% power, we would be still able to detect a difference of 19% from the baseline 50% (i.e., to 69%).
To determine the precision of our estimate for 90-day adherence post-intervention, we estimate that an average of 30 new HIV-positive women who initiate ART will be identified per ANC site for each 1-month measurement period. As there are 12 post-intervention periods under consideration, we estimate that 720 (30 × 12) will initiate ART. This denominator would allow a calculation of adherence that is within ±4% for adherence rates >50%.
The institutional review board of the Ministry of Health of Mozambique and the University of Washington approved this study. The trial is currently registered with ClinicalTrials.gov #NCT02371265.
Trial status
Formative research at all six sites in central Mozambique began in March 2013. The intervention bundle was finalized in 2014. Implementation of the stepped wedge randomized controlled trial is in process.
This stepped wedge randomized controlled study is designed as a pragmatic trial to evaluate and strengthen the current Mozambican MoH support rollout of Option B+ in central Mozambique and to reduce high LTFU of HIV-positive pregnant women from PMTCT services and ART. This trial supports the development, implementation, and evaluation of a scalable bundled intervention designed to increase the number of pregnant women that are newly diagnosed with HIV at their first ANC visit that start ART therapy and that continue taking their HIV medications throughout their pregnancy. There have been limited evaluations of Option B+ efforts in sub-Saharan Africa—the introduction of Option B+ in Mozambique provides a unique opportunity for a rigorous randomized controlled stepped wedge trial to evaluate and strengthen this process.
This evaluation will help to highlight current strengths and shortcomings in the current PMTCT care cascade on a facility-level basis. If the bundled intervention is successful, it can be rapidly scaled up to other ANC sites in Mozambique and sub-Saharan Africa.
The start of Option B+ and the formative research component of this study have generated great interest both at participating facilities and within the Mozambican MoH. However, there have also been several challenges thus far including the evolving MoH PMTCT guidelines (this trial was originally designed to evaluate Option B vs Option B+), the high volume of patients ANC staff manage each day, the addition of new responsibilities for these staff, national elections, floods, and military conflict [31].
Despite these challenges, this innovative stepped wedge trial has the potential to significantly improve the care provided to HIV-positive pregnant women in central Mozambique and to reduce the likelihood that they will transmit HIV to their newborns. The results of the formative research and the intervention evaluation are likely to be of significant interest to local, national, and international PMTCT providers and health policy experts. If successful, this model of formative research, intervention development, and randomized stepped wedge intervention evaluation can be applied across other major health services (TB, malaria, non-communicable diseases) and may provide a practical example for how rigorous health systems research can occur in other low-income countries.
ANC:
Combination anti-retroviral therapy
ARV:
Anti-retroviral medication
AZT:
Zidovudine
Cluster of differentiation 4 (laboratory test)
CHW:
HIV:
Human immunodeficiency virus
IRB:
LTFU:
MCH:
Maternal child health
MoH:
PCR:
Polymerase chain reaction (laboratory test)
PMTCT:
Prevention of mother-to-child HIV transmission
The research reported in this publication is supported by NICHD under award number R01HD074557-03. The content is solely the responsibility of the authors and does not necessarily represent the official views of the National Institutes of Health. We would like to thank members of the Mozambican national and provincial MoH and the exceptional ANC nursing teams who are supporting this study.
JP, RC, KS, MM, SG, and SG conceived of the study. MM, JC, and JC advised the analytic approach. MN and RH are leading study implementation and helped revise the protocol. All authors contributed to refining the study design and finalizing the protocol. JC drafted the final version of the paper. All authors read and authorized the final version.
Department of Global Health, University of Washington Schools of Medicine and Public Health, 1705 NE Pacific St.,, Seattle, WA 98195, USA
Health Alliance International (HAI), 1107 NE 45th St., Suite 350, Seattle, WA 98105, USA
Department of Family Medicine, University of Washington, Box 356390, Seattle, WA 98195, USA
Department of Anthropology, University of Washington, Box 353100, Seattle, WA 98195, USA
Beira Operations Research Center, Ministry of Health, Ponta Gea, Beira, Mozambique
Department of Family and Child Nursing, University of Washington, Box 355809, Seattle, WA 98195, USA
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The micro-finance sector in India over the last decade has witnessed a roller coaster ride that would rival any Bollywood potboiler. As an investor who invested in the sector, I got a ringside view of the euphoria, suspense and drama that accompanied the creation of untold riches in the Rs 50,000 Crore microfinance sector. The sector has shown it’s resilience emerging unscathed from multiple crisis’s and also spawned dozens of startups in the fintech space.
In the last decade the number of millionaires and billionaires emerging from the microfinance sector is probably much higher than the E-Commerce sector in India. This is -because unlike the founders and employees of E-Commerce companies in India whose wealth continues to remain only on paper and is fast eroding, microfinance companies have taken the big leap to getting listed and some have even converted into full fledged small finance banks.
2016 saw two microfinance companies coming out with successful IPO’s. Some of the new billionaires minted include Mr P N Vasudevan whose 2.5% stake in Equitas Microfinance is today worth upward of Rs 150 Crore ( At current market prices). It is also the sector that turned Vineet Rai into one of the most successful impact investors in the world.
Another microfinance millionaire is Samit Ghosh the founder of Ujjivan who saw the stock price of the company he founded double on the bourse in less than 100 days. There are also thousands of top and mid level managers who cashed out in IPO’s and after market sales. Their names are not public and remain hidden in DRHP’s and company filings with the stock exchanges. The charts below should give you an idea about the wealth creation that has taken place in the sector in this year.
The sector also has billionaires who turned into paupers because of the 2010 Andhra Pradesh Microfinance Crisis. Notable among them are Vijay Mahajan of Basix, Padmaja Reddy of Spandana Spoorty and Udai Kumar of Share Microfin.
As an investor in a micro-finance company, I watched my company crash and burn spectacularly over a period of 8 years losing out on millions invested. This post is about the journey and lessons gleaned from this failure.
It was in early 2007 that one of my close friends and college mates sent me an email saying he was going to start a microfinance company. The year before Mohammed Yunus had won a noble peace prize for starting Grameen Foundation and the whole microfinance sector was in a state of euphoria.
Venture Capital money was pouring in and every other NGO was starting microfinance operations. We decided to quickly acquire an NBFC license and start operations in the state of Uttar Pradesh. We chose Uttar Pradesh because the financial services market down south, where microfinance first emerged was already saturated.
So by early 2008 the company had begun full fledged operations, I invested around Rs 1.1 million in the first round and followed this up with another tranche of around Rs 0.5 million in 2010. In return I got 8% shareholding in the NBFC. The company had more than 20 different promoters with the highest stake of around 20% being held by the Managing Partner along with his relatives.
The business model of micro-finance was quite simple then, take loans from big banks like NABARD and Private Sector Banks at rates of 14-16% per annum and on-lend them to micro-finance clients at 24%-26%. We were able to pocket margins of 5% after all the loan disbursement expenses were covered . With repayment rates of around 99% because of the group lending model we followed, I felt nothing could go wrong.
Banks were also eager to lend because they had to commit a portion of their funds to RBI mandated priority sectors which included the microfinance sector. So we easily got loans from NABARD and other private banks. The business quickly scaled up and even though we got no returns, the notional value of our shares in the unlisted NBFC almost doubled within the first 3 years. At it’s peak we had close to 8000 active borrowers and a loan portfolio of Rs 4.5 Crore outstanding.
I was soon dreaming about how I would sell my stocks with returns of 500% on my investment within the next 2-3 years making me a multi-millionaire. But then disaster stuck unexpectedly.
The Culprit – Over-lending
In late 2010, there were a couple of suicides by microfinance clients in the state of Andhra Pradesh which quickly snowballed into a full fledged political crisis with leaders of different political parties jumping into the fray. The main cause of the crisis was multiple lending where individuals had borrowed from multiple microfinance companies and were then unable to make repayments. Some borrowers committed suicide unable to bear harassment from the lenders
Politicians could soon be seen asking borrowers to default on loans in rural AP and soon the sector began to witness large scale default on payments. Microfinance companies who were head-quartered in Andhra Pradesh were soon facing bankruptcy.
This had a cascading effect on MFI’s across the country. Banks froze their lending to MFI’s and started recalling their loans. This also sounded the death knell for small MFI’s like ours which were not heavily capitalized. Within a few months it became difficult to raise funds from banks or investors . We could no longer give fresh loans and lender disciple soon went awry in the absence of fresh loans.
By 2013, we were left with no option but to wind up our field operations. Our loan outstanding portfolio had sunk to a low of Rs 80 Lakh compared to the high of 4.5 Crore it had touched in 2010. Thus ended the saga of our microfinance company in a short span of five years. While the losses I suffered was quite large, the lessons learnt are priceless. Here I list them out for the benefit of other entrepreneurs and investors
10 Lessons learned from a Failed Startup In Microfinance
A failure teaches your many lessons, for the sake of brevity I have penned down the ten most important ones.
1. Change is the only Constant
Over the years, the attitude of some of the founders changed completely. The changes were more profound when they got married and became bogged down with family responsibilities. This was totally unexpected and I failed to anticipate how developments in their personal life would affect our company. Soon it became family first and friends ka paisa bhaad me jaye. Well, that’s what life does to you.
When we started the company we were fresh out of college. There was a certain bonhomie among the founders and partners , which was a remanent from our days spent together in the classroom, at canteens and college fests. Sadly this is of no value in a corporation and can often cloud your judgement negatively by inducing biases.
Lesson Learnt : Always have a blue print for worst case / best case scenarios to deal with partners, vendors, employees and the external environmental difficulties. Hope for the best but plan for the worst, that’s life. Starting up with friends is definitely not advised, it is always better to convert a business relationship into a friendship rather than the other way round.
2. Don’t Over-commit – Transfer Commitments into text / paper. Talk is worthless.
Some of the partners had committed to joining the startup within 2 years of it being launched but later went back on their promises because they could not handle the salary cuts. This caused a lot of consternation among the managing partners who felt they were betrayed. I too had committed on expanding the companies operations in the states of Maharashtra and Karnataka but later never followed up on the issue because I had become a little too comfortable in my home base and did not want to take the risk of moving to a new geography.
Lesson Learnt: Don’t over-commit or loosely make promises you do not intend to keep. They will often come back to haunt you. This is a major issue in startups and was recently witnessed in the very public duel between NASSCOM veteran Ravi Gururaj and his partner. Also do not fear taking up new challenges because YOLO.
3. Control Is Key – Never let go
We had many shareholders and only one investor had a share holding of greater than 10%. This led to the creation of a fragmented ownership with no clear promoter. The promoters group was scattered across the country and did not even meet even once under the same roof during the period when the company was operational. This reflects were badly on investors who failed to follow up on our investments and maximize returns. Emails and phone calls have a limited effect, nothing beats getting your hands and feet down on the ground.
Lesson Learnt : Try to keep control of the organization with an individual who is aligned with the vision of the organization and not disparate groups of promoters and investors who are in it only for a good return on their investments.
4. Value Systems Differ Because India Is A Diverse Country.
Not everybody shares your Values, having grown up in an upper middle class family I was genuinely surprised when I realized that people don’t appreciate or share your value systems. Values which I then believed were universal are actually in practice quite rare. When there is a mismatch of value systems, it leads to ethical and moral conflicts within the organization.
So always evaluate your founders, customers and employees for value systems and if they do not match your wavelength don’t go ahead with your venture. You are saving yourself some future heartburn. This difference in value systems was one of the prime reasons for the failure of Food Panda and Jabong.com.
Lesson Learnt : Not everybody sees your way, different people are driven by different karma’s, motivation and logic.
5. Do A Background Check On Partners
One of the partners actually had some missing pieces in his professional career. Nobody knew exactly why he was fired from his previous job. We gave him the benefit of doubt and did not pursue the matter. We eventually ended up regretting it because only later did we find out that he was fired for embezzlement and fraud. Since he did got away with it the first time, he ended up repeating the same behavior in our organization. An oversight that could have been avoided.
Lessons Learnt : Don’t evaluate people and business partners on gut instincts and at face value. Do some digging about their pasts, back your decisions with data.
6. Falling For the Projections
One of the founders used to send us elaborate presentations valuing our shareholding and how it would increase over the years as the company grows. I took them at face value and actually believed the founders would deliver on their promise. This was a mistake because it was clearly a case of biting more than what they could chew. The management clearly lacked the skills to deliver on the projected growth. So never believe the best case scenario’s projected by your partners. Like N R Narayan Murthy it would be wise to opt for an under promise and over-delivery model.
Lessons Learnt : Take all presentations and promises with a pinch of salt. Keep your expectations tempered and in tune with reality.
7. Be Assertive – Sweat The Details
On hindsight we were as a group of promoters very meek and laid back. In fact we neither got receipts or share certificates for almost three years after we had invested money. Everything was done on the basis of just talk and emails. In fact it took me almost two years to realize that the managing partners had actually collected more money than what was required to buy the NBFC license and used it to capitalize the company without informing the investors.
Lessons Learnt :
Investing is a serious business and there is no scope for half hearted efforts. Don’t be laid back on issues of finance and procedural issues. Always analyze the minute aspects of all financial transactions.
8. Avoid The Self Sacrifice Complex
A lot of time of time was consumed in listening to how the founders had sacrificed their careers to start the company and how they were suffering because of pay cuts they had taken. What I failed to tell them then was that it was a choice they made and none of us asked them to become founders.
Ideas are dime a dozen but cash is always king. We gave them hard cash which they reduced to ash. As an investor don’t fall for the self-sacrifice drama. The founders are solely responsible for everything they face in building a great company.
Lesson Learnt : All business ideas at inception are worthless. They acquire value only when you can show the money. Don’t fall for the sob stories by founders, they have been asking for it.
9. Greed – Counting the Chickens before they hatch.
Even before the company had reported any profits, a squabble broke out among shareholders when the two main managing partners became greedy and decided to arbitrarily award themselves ESOP’s which were not commensurate with their performance. Valuations in the sector were soaring and the founders wanted a bigger share of the shareholding. Things got really ugly over time and soon we had full blown boardroom war.
Eventually the founders had their way and bullied the rest of the investors to pare down their shareholdings. All this drama ensued even before the company had reported a single Paisa in profits. This created a lot bad blood and mistrust that soon became the defining point in our relations.
Lesson Learnt : Paisaa Badi Buree Cheez Hai Aur Ache Achon Ko Badal Deti Hai.
10. Do Not Confuse Activity For Accomplishment.
The management team would send us regular updates about whom they met, their new plans for diversification and the new opportunities they get exposed to daily. Sadly most of them never reached any meaningful conclusion and most of it was just hot air in the end. The mistake we did was to get carried away by reports of activity and interpret them as accomplishments much before they had any impact on the top-line or bottom-line of our company.
Lesson Learnt : It is prudent to focus on 2-3 leads or goals than dabbling on dozens of un-related projects. Focus on these 2-3 goals and take them to a successful conclusion.
Post Script:
Eventually relations soured so badly among investors, that one of the founding partners decided to take his share of money and just resigned from his company leaving all the other investors in the lurch. When the company was eventually sold in 2015 , I managed to recover less than 1/4th of the money I invested.
Why Did We Fail ?
We could put it down to four factors.
Bad Luck.
Bad Management.
External Environmental Factors Turning Negative.
Inability To Accurately Predict Human Behaviour
Every tragedy has a silver lining. In my case it took the form of a blog called India Microfinance. When we started the company there was no authoritative news website on micro-finance, so I started this blog to keep our partners in the company informed. While our companies folded up the website survived because it had very low annual maintenance costs. (Just Rs 1000 per year)
Today the website gets more than half a million visitors every month and has emerged as a steady source of additional income.
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TUESDAY TALK chats to Writer Sue Fortin about her love of mystery and some interesting celebrity dinner guests
On April 12, 2016 By jolambertwriterIn Writing
Good morning Sue and welcome. Can I start, as always, by asking you a little about yourself?
Good morning, Jo and thank you for inviting me onto your blog. I always enjoy reading the Tuesday Talk Interviews so feel very honoured to be here.
So, about me … I’m married with four children and live in West Sussex. I write mystery, suspense and romance and am published by HarperImpulse, HarperCollins. I started off as an Indie author before signing with my publishers, although I still self-publish my novellas.
I’m part of the on-line writing group The Romaniacs (www.theromaniacs.co.uk) where I blog regularly and am also a member of the Romantic Novelists’ Association.
Have you always wanted to be a writer? How did your journey begin?
I’ve always had a love for books, as a child I was a real bookworm so I suppose it was a natural progression to want to write stories of my own. Throughout my childhood and early twenties, I started many a novel which never reached further than a few chapters. However, when I had my youngest daughter, I decided if I didn’t try then, I never would succeed in writing ‘The End’.
My aim was just to complete a whole novel. During the process I discovered the Romantic Novelists’ Association and their wonderful New Writers’ Scheme. I was very lucky to get a place and this fuelled me to finish the novel. The first draft was truly awful but the following year the next version received really positive comments and a second read. This inspired me to self-publish ‘United States of Love’ and a year after that, I submitted it to HarperImpulse who offered me a three book deal.
Your first book ‘United States of Love’ was a contemporary romance. You now write romance, mystery and suspense. What made you decide to widen the genre?
I’ve always enjoyed reading thrillers and mystery books. My first love was Enid Blyton’s ‘The Mystery of …’ series. Likewise, I’ve enjoyed reading contemporary romances, Jilly Cooper and Sue Moorcroft being amongst my favourites. After ‘United States of Love’ was published, I really wanted to merge my two loves together and from that my writing has developed into a more romantic suspense style. I thoroughly enjoy blending the romance and relationship side of things with the mystery and suspense.
Are you a plotter or a punster?
Plotter. As my writing has evolved and brought more and more mystery and suspense into it, my books have been very much plot driven. With lots of twists and turns, red herrings and surprises, I really do need to plot heavily otherwise I would end up writing myself into a complete muddle.
Who are your favourite authors and why?
The list is endless but my go-to authors, where I wouldn’t need to read the blurb to buy would be Jilly Cooper, Sue Moorcroft, Liane Moriarty and Emily Barr.
Jilly Cooper and Sue Moorcroft because I always fall in love with their heroes. Even if their heroes aren’t particularly conventional, they always come good in the end. Liane Moriarty and Emily Barr because there is mystery and suspense in their novels. Liane Moriarty makes great social observations and there is often a touch of humour in her writing too.
Chris Kuzneski, Dan Brown, James Paterson and I’ve recently discovered Rachel Amphlett. I like these because of the conspiracy theories, the mystery, the thrill and the great adventure you have as a reader with each book.
You spend some of your time in France. Is there a particular area you love? Where do you stay when you are there?
We’ve spent many years holidaying in France and bought our own cottage thirteen years ago in Southern Brittany. It’s in a tiny commune where the road is busiest when the cows go down to the lane. My husband is in the building trade and has been renovating it over the years. It’s a great spot as it’s relatively easy to get to from the UK and yet provides a great gateway to explore the western side of France.
You’re organising a dinner party and can invite four historical figures. Who would you choose and why?
Oh, gosh, who would I invite?
Emily Pankhurst – to find out what drove her to fight so hard for women to get the vote? Did she really believe it would happen? What would she think to women’s position in society today?
Jackie Onassis – an icon who always appeared so in control and gracious. What was it really like being married to JFK? What was Jackie O really like behind the public mask?
Violette Szabo – A Special Operative Executive agent during the second world war who was executed by the Germans and received the George Cross posthumously. Her story was retold in the film Carve Her Name With Pride. I would love to know what drove her to carry out this line of work? Did she feel it was worth it? Did she think she made a difference?
Jane Austen – How could I not invite someone who wrote such enduring romantic novels?
MORE ABOUT SUE
Published by Harper Collins’ imprint Harper Impulse, Sue Fortin writes romance, mystery and suspense.
Her originally self-published debut novel was awarded the INDIE Brag Medallion and later when published by HarperImpulse was short-listed for the Joan Hessayon Award (2014). Sue was also short-listed for the Festival of Romance, New Talent Award (2013). Her second novel, Closing In, reached number one in the Romantic Suspense Kobo chart at the end of 2014. Sue blogs regularly with the on-line writing group The Romaniacs (www.theromaniacs.co.uk).
Lover of cake, Dragonflies and France. Hater of calories, maths and snakes. Sue was born in Hertfordshire but had a nomadic childhood, moving often with her family, before eventually settling in West Sussex.
Sue is married with four children, all of whom patiently give her time to write but, when not behind the keyboard, she likes to spend her time with them, enjoying both the coast and the South Downs, between which they are nestled.
You can catch up with Sue at
Facebook Sue Fortin Author
Twitter @suefortin1
Website & Blog www.suefortin.com
HarperImpulse Author Page
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Laura James (@Laura_E_James)
Great interview 🙂 I smiled at the plotter or panster question. Sue is one of the best plotters I know 🙂 xx
suefortin
Thanks, Laura. Maybe one day when I’m feeling brave, I’ll try being a panster – it’s a scary thought!
Fascinating that so many authors fall in love with Enid Blyton’s books and that she has influenced so many writers. I too love James Patterson, not too keen on Dan Brown however. It is wonderful that you can still publish your own novellas as well as write for your publisher. Enjoyed your interview Sue and wish you continued success. Thanks JO for hosting Sue. 🙂
Hi Jane,
I’ve often thought that about Enid Blyton too – maybe there wasn’t such a wealth of books to select from ‘back in the day’. Thank you for stopping by and your kind comments.
I suppose you are right about the lack of choice back when. I loved her books however, and all the adventure writers I grew up with. All had a huge influence on me. Great to connect. 🙂
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Kirsty's Reviews
Review: Class Distinctions by Rick R. Reed
Mar 9, 2017 | 2 comments
Rating: 4.25 stars
Buy Link: Amazon | iBooks | Amazon UK
Length: Short Story
It is Presidents’ Day weekend and Jonathan’s college roommate has gone home for three days, leaving Jonathan alone to plan a romantic time with his boyfriend of six months, full of sex, food, and wine. Jonathan is anticipating Kyle’s arrival, but instead of the romantic embrace he is expecting, Kyle arrives telling Jonathan that their relationship is over, that he simply doesn’t love Jonathan anymore.
Jonathan is left heartbroken and confused and Kyle is convinced that his actions are unselfish, though the pain he feels is just as raw as that of the man he has just walked out on.
The title of Rick R. Reed’s short story, Class Distinctions, perfectly explains Kyle’s reasons for ending his relationship with Jonathan. Their parents are due to meet soon and Kyle is convinced that Jonathan’s mother and father, who are both professionals and live in a six-bedroom house, will disapprove of his diner-working mother, who has raised him single-handedly in a one-bedroom apartment.
Obviously, the influence of both families is significant in this story and I really liked how Reed includes Kyle and Jonathan’s mothers in phone conversations with their respective sons. These short exchanges not only give the reader clues as to the similarities between the two women, but Kyle and Jonathan themselves.
It appears that both young men hold their mothers in high regard, with Jonathan referring to his as “tormentor, savior, nurturer . . . chief confidant.” Kyle’s thoughts about his mother are initially harsher, but they quickly soften and with them, I felt my detachment towards him fading.
Short stories are never going to be my favorite thing to read, but Reed is quickly becoming one of my must-buy authors, to the extent that I would probably buy an instruction manual on how to make toast if he wrote one! There were small aspects of Class Distinctions that I felt fell short of Reed’s normal brilliance, such as Jonathan’s declaration that going out in the snow was “suicidal” and “playing out some little ‘Match Girl’ fantasy.” I am sure it was not Reed’s intention, but Jonathan’s drama-queen tendencies just made me laugh!
I also felt disappointment towards Kyle for the attitude he originally displays towards his mother, begrudgingly complimenting her but then describing her as “seriously overweight, with bulging thighs, broad hips, and flabby breasts.” On the other hand, I think Reed allows the reader to relate Kyle’s harshness to his mood at the time and with this, I feel we fully appreciate that the emotional pain he is experiencing is because he feels so protective of the woman who has raised him alone.
Despite my personal low points during Class Distinctions, I did love the profoundness that Reed’s writing brings to the story, even though it is only short. We only see a brief physical exchange between Kyle and Jonathan but still, Reed communicates this belief that they are right for one another. This is mainly achieved in the way that Reed astutely captures the emotions of both his characters, talking about their relationship in so much more than just sexual terms: “all the days and nights of happiness, passion, kindness, and yes, friendship.”
Class Distinctions may not be a story I am in a rush to re-read, but it is enjoyable, heart-warming, and certainly not a bad way to spend a lunch break!
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FILED UNDER: 4.25 stars, Contemporary, Kirsty's Reviews
TAGGED: college, JMS Books, new adult, Rick R. Reed, wealthy hero, young love
Nihcki S on March 11, 2017 at 3:42 am
I just wanted to comment on the cover. I have seen that exact photo on romance book covers at least 4 times now, maybe 6. This particular view is from a different angle, and sometimes the shot is zoomed-in, or reversed to a mirror image, but it’s the same guy, same pose. Wonder why it’s so popular, and why authors don’t protest and say, “No, that’s already been on 4 other books”? Must be a free stock photo or something, but I’m immediately turned off when I see it grace a cover, AGAIN.
JayHJay on March 11, 2017 at 6:11 pm
Yes, the lack of quality stock images, particularly for m/m romance is pretty sad. I feel like I am constantly recognizing models from other books.
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