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Nurie Mohamed
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Crashed semi-truck spills 20 tons of avocados onto Texas highway
Updated: 2:00 PM EDT Oct 29, 2019
Taylor Pettaway, MySanAntonio.com
A Texas highway was closed for several hours Tuesday after a semi-truck crashed and spilled 40,000 pounds of avocados on the road.Cibolo police tweeted that the crashed happened around 12:30 a.m. outside of Seguin, Texas, about 35 miles northeast of San Antonio.Police said two tractor semi-trailers were involved in the accident after the first rig, a box trailer full of avocados, overturned on the highway, causing the cargo box to tear open.The second rig then crashed into the first one but remained upright. A third passenger van was also hit, but sustained the least damage and was able to leave the scene later, a spokesman with Cibolo police said. Two people were taken to the hospital with minor injuries.Police are still looking into the cause of the crash.Traffic traveling on eastbound Interstate 10 was being diverted off the main lanes at mile marker 599 and can reenter the highway at mile marker 600.TxDOT arrived on scene around 8 a.m. to start cleaning the roadway so the interstate wouldn't be slippery from the fallen fruit.The Cibolo Police Department's Twitter feed had some fun with the incident, using hashtags their updates, including #pitsinpits and #fiberhighway. Related video: There were an estimated 8,900 avocado-related injuries last year:
SEGUIN, Texas (Video from KSAT via CNN) —
A Texas highway was closed for several hours Tuesday after a semi-truck crashed and spilled 40,000 pounds of avocados on the road.
Cibolo police tweeted that the crashed happened around 12:30 a.m. outside of Seguin, Texas, about 35 miles northeast of San Antonio.
Police said two tractor semi-trailers were involved in the accident after the first rig, a box trailer full of avocados, overturned on the highway, causing the cargo box to tear open.
The second rig then crashed into the first one but remained upright. A third passenger van was also hit, but sustained the least damage and was able to leave the scene later, a spokesman with Cibolo police said.
Two people were taken to the hospital with minor injuries.
Police are still looking into the cause of the crash.
Traffic traveling on eastbound Interstate 10 was being diverted off the main lanes at mile marker 599 and can reenter the highway at mile marker 600.
TxDOT arrived on scene around 8 a.m. to start cleaning the roadway so the interstate wouldn't be slippery from the fallen fruit.
The Cibolo Police Department's Twitter feed had some fun with the incident, using hashtags their updates, including #pitsinpits and #fiberhighway.
2nd big rig was a tanker which remained upright. IH-10 EB is closed. Traffic is being diverted off the main lanes at mm 599 and can re-enter at mm 600. We will update when opened. Expect several more hours before complete. #fiberhighway #pitsinpits #hearthealthy #whynotdonuts pic.twitter.com/TA4LczEjDf
— Cibolo Police Dept (@CiboloPD) October 29, 2019
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Miss. prison escapee still on the run
By Erin Morgan | January 5, 2020 at 4:56 PM CST - Updated January 5 at 10:34 PM
JACKSON, Miss. (WMC) - The search continues for Dillion Williams, one of two inmates that escaped from the Mississippi State Penitentiary at Parchman.
The other inmate, David May was captured Sunday morning and is back in custody.
The two were discovered to be missing from Parchman around 1:45 a.m. on Saturday during an "emergency count."
The Mississippi Department of Corrections suspected the two were traveling in a 2011 Black GMC truck that was stolen near the prison.
Early Sunday morning, MDOC announced that May was found and the truck was recovered.
Dillion Williams is still on the run.
Both inmates were behind bars for aggravated assault.
May was serving a life sentence, and Williams was serving 40 years.
Williams was also convicted in Marshall County for residential burglary.
Court documents show he was responsible for a brutal attack on a 91-year-old woman near Holly Springs in 2010.
Their escape comes after a week of violence and unrest across Mississippi prisons.
Five inmates have been killed in state prisons since last Sunday, three of those occurring at Parchman.
All Mississippi state prisons remain on lockdown.
If you see Dillion Williams, you are asked to contact MDOC or your local law enforcement agency immediately.
Erin Morgan
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Erin Morgan co-anchors the weekend morning news and reports several weekday mornings at WMC Action News 5.
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Battle For Places
Lonergan on strength in depth and Tuesday's cup tie
Andy Lonergan believes the strength of Wolves squad is now going to keep everyone at Molineux on their toes.
The experienced keeper made his third appearance of the season – all in the EFL Cup – at St James’ Park on Tuesday night as a pivotal two minute spell saw Newcastle notch twice on their way to running out 2-0 winners.
Head Coach Walter Zenga made numerous changes after the efforts expended in winning at Newcastle in the league on Saturday, and Lonergan believes the club now has plenty of strength in depth.
He said: “I think the players knew that if you didn’t play on Saturday you were likely to play on Tuesday.
“We’ve got a good squad and it’s never nice to lose but the most important thing was the three points on Saturday.
“The gaffer and Andrea (Butti) stressed that we wanted to go through and for me and a few others this is probably our best chance of playing.
“We are disappointed but I think we gave a good account of ourselves against a strong team.
“On a Sunday now if the 11 that have played are doing a cool down there are another 13 or 14 quality players training.
“Everyone is putting in a shift and pushing each other.
“And when you get a result like Saturday everyone just has to say ‘well done’ and keep getting behind the team.
“We have had some fantastic results this season.
“We have got a really tough game now.
“Brentford are very capable on the day of putting in a performance.
“Hopefully the crowd will get behind us and we need to get the victory for them.
“Away from home we have been fantastic, even at Huddersfield when we lost and didn’t really deserve to.”
On the game itself Lonergan felt Wolves were once again a match for one of the Sky Bet Championship favourites, but that they were undone by those two quickfire goals.
“I thought for 89 minutes we were really good particularly as we rotated our squad,” he said.
“Apart from the mad minute when we conceded two goals, I thought we gave a great account of ourselves and there were some positives.
“It might have been different had we gone in front.
“As soon as they scored you could feel the relief from their crowd and the tempo and everything lifted and then they got the second straightaway.
“At that stage we needed to go in and regroup.
“We felt we needed to stay in it then and try and come back and we did have chances but just couldn’t take them.
“They were good goals Newcastle scored.
“But I thought Dominic and Kortney were outstanding and deserved a clean sheet.
“The goals were bits of magic really.”
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As a co-operative, playing an active role in our local community is vital to us.
We contribute time and resources to a variety of local charities, and offer honorary membership to local NHS and Blood Bike staff.
Dumfriesshire Foodbank
Dumfriesshire Foodbank provides nutritionally balanced emergency food and support to local people who are referred to them in crisis. They are part of a nationwide network of foodbanks, supported by The Trussell Trust, working to combat poverty and hunger across the UK.
The Wood Fuel Co-operative supports the work of the Foodbank in a number of ways. In the winter of 2016-17 we donated 1,000 ‘Cosy Night In’ boxes, for the Foodbank to sell. These were sold from our shop and the forecourt of our local Tesco petrol station (who kindly donated prime retail space), with all proceeds going directly to the Foodbank.
We now offer an option where local customers can join the Wood Fuel Co-operative by donating £50 to the Foodbank, in return for lifetime membership. Since January 2017, our members have donated over £12,000 to the Dumfriesshire Foodbank under this scheme.
Borders Forest Trust
In the winter of 2019/2020 we started our Plant A Tree scheme. For every tonne of briquettes we sell, we plant one native tree in the UK. Whether you buy one pack or one palet, every purchase counts towards our total. We do this in partnership with Borders Forest Trust, who plant areas of native woodland in the Scottish Borders.
In January 2020, we kicked the scheme off by purchasing 2,107 trees, which will be planted at sites in Southern Scotland for the sole purpose of habitat creation. These trees will never be felled but will be left to complete their natural life cycle.
Winter Warmth for Older People Project
The Winter Warmth for Older People Project is run by The Hub, a local community action centre in Dumfries; the Community Payback Unit (Dumfries & Galloway Council); and local landowners.
The project delivers free firewood to older people on low incomes in Dumfries & Galloway each winter.
Over the winter months, we donate about four tonnes of wood fuel to the Winter Warmth Project. The fuel is then distributed for free to those who need it.
Dumfries & Galloway Blood Bikes
Dumfries & Galloway Blood Bikes is a charitable organisation set up by local volunteers to deliver essential blood and urgent medical supplies, in and out of hours, between hospitals and healthcare sites in South West Scotland and sometimes beyond.
We offer Blood Bike volunteers free honorary membership of the Wood fuel Co-operative, as a recognition of the important work they do for our local community. To claim your free membership, please bring your Blood Bike ID to our office.
NHS Dumfries & Galloway
All Dumfries and Galloway NHS staff are eligible for free honorary membership of the Wood Fuel Co-operative. This is as a thank you to the staff who looked after Rowland when he was very ill in 2015. If you are a member of D&G NHS staff, claim your free membership by bringing your NHS ID to our office. This offer also applies to NHS staff who live in Dumfries & Galloway but work for neighbouring NHS Trusts.
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Steve Knightley "folk legend" to head Frome Festival
“FOLK LEGEND” STEVE KNIGHTLEY TO HEADLINE FROME’S NEW FESTIVAL
~Show of Hands award-winning frontman to top Sunday bill~
“Folk legend” Steve Knightley has been revealed as the Sunday headliner of England’s newest music festival in Somerset.
Show of Hands’ inspired frontman, hailed as one of England’s finest songwriters, will top the bill on the second day of Frome Folk Festival next February (19th).
Exeter-based Steve, a brilliantly savvy wordsmith and musician, will next year celebrate 20 years of his phenomenal professional partnership with multi-instrumental wizard Phil Beer when Show of Hands play the Royal Albert Hall for an incredible fourth time.
But the BBC award-winning songwriter is increasingly carving a successful solo career alongside Show of Hands and Frome Folk Festival will offer an opportunity to see him take to the stage of former 19th century market hall The Cheese and Grain in a display of inimitable one-man showmanship.
“Knightley dares to tackle subjects other songwriters leave well alone – his best songs are bleak, witty and finely observed” -The Guardian
“A folk legend” – BBC Music
“Touching emotional literacy” – Daily Telegraph
Knightley won the Best Original Song accolade at the 2010 BBC Radio 2 Folk Awards for the topical title track of Show of Hands’ last studio album, Arrogance Ignorance and Greed, a heartfelt tirade against bankers and bonuses, MPs and expenses, which not surprisingly resonated with a lot of the population! Together with Phil Beer, Knightley also won the Best Duo title.
He writes most of the material for Show of Hands including classics like Country Life and Roots, both also nominated for Best Original Song at previous BBC Folk Awards. A skilled musician, he also plays numerous instruments from guitar to mandocello and South American cuatro. See Steve performing his brilliant Tall Ship Story here www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnvEmFqraS4
Earlier this year he released Live in Somerset, recorded at The David Hall, South Petherton, following on from his stunningly sparse solo album Cruel River (2007) and Track of Words Retraced (2009). This year he has also taken part in the multi artist Cecil Sharp Project – an against-the-clock songwriting collaboration which will tour the UK in 2012.
At Frome, Steve will be supported by fellow musicians from the talent-rich West Country – two sensational young duos that are making waves on the roots scene - the innovative and singular Phillip Henry and Hannah Martin, from Devon and, from Bath, Show of Hands’ unofficial third member --the striking double bassist and vocalist Miranda Sykes who has joined forces with mandolin maestro Rex Preston.
Miranda has worked with Show of Hands since 2004, augmenting their sound with her powerful double bass playing and rich, spine-tingling harmonies. Her new collaboration with virtuoso Rex Preston (The Scoville Units) is an unusual but completely engaging pairing with their much anticipated eponymous debut album due to be launched the weekend of Frome Folk Festival. Rex will also be holding a mandolin workshop on the Sunday. See Miranda and Rex www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxJ-D9R4VEs
Phillip Henry, one of the country’s finest slide guitarists, has been blazing a trail on the festival and folk club scene, weaving together folk melodies of the British Isles, blues, gospel and Indian music in his moving and original compositions and arrangements. Meanwhile his partner Hannah Martin - a singer, songwriter, banjo and fiddle player - blends folklore and legend with beautiful melodies and innovative arrangements, while retaining a strong sense of the living tradition.
"Phillip is a master craftsman on the slide-guitar and harmonica and has a fine, clear voice -he is one of the most extraordinary musicians around.” – Steve Knightley
The highly creative duo have appeared at numerous festivals including Glastonbury and Cambridge and this year released their debut album The Singing Bones to critical acclaim with Radio 2’s Mike Harding effusing: “I’m completely knocked out by this duo”. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0gbZylhi0g
Also heading to the historic Somerset market town earlier on the Sunday will be 17 year-old singer songwriter Luke Jackson. Kent-based Luke has a startlingly mature voice and has already supported Steve Knightley as well as Martyn Joseph, Little Johnny England, Paul Brady, Megson and Show of Hands at Herstmonceux Castle this summer. See http://youtu.be/8IHF3hsFnaU
Saturday’s already announced headliners will be the dynamic melodeon, fiddle and singing duo John Spiers and Jon Boden (founders of powerhouse band Bellowhead), who will host a rare ceilidh in the afternoon before their headline set in the evening.
Frome is located close to Bath, Wells and Salisbury. The new winter festival will be played out at The Cheese and Grain and other town locations and is the brainchild of West Country music promoter Jan Ayers, who successfully brought a folk festival back to Bristol after 32 years this spring.
More acts are still to be unveiled but already on the enviable line up are Bella Hardy, Sean Lakeman and Kathryn Roberts, Belshazzar’s Feast, Jenna, Dyer Cummings and Tim Edey & Brendan Power.
Frome Folk Festival will run from 9am-11pm both days. Early Bird weekend tickets, price £58 (£48 concessions) are now on sale from the Cheese and Grain box office on (01373) 455420, online at www.cheeseandgrain.co.uk or via www.seahorsepromotions.co.uk, www.seetickets.com and www.Gigantic.com. A family weekend ticket for two adults and 2 children (aged under 15) is £190. No booking fees apply.
Indoor camping will be available at the town’s United Reformed Church, just a stone’s throw from the festival venues.
More information at www.fromefolkfestival.co.uk
“One of England’s greatest singer-songwriters” – Mike Harding, BBC Radio 2
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WikiLeaks sister site names and shames public figures calling for its founder’s death
Natalie Chandler
In the wake of the recent Tucson shootings – which saw six dead and 18 injured – WikiLeaks has called for prominent US media personalities to be held accountable for inciting violence.
In typical balls-out fashion, the activist organisation offered its condolences to the victims of the shooting, while at the same time aligning the incident with its campaign on sister site, PeopleOKWithMurderingAssange.com, to name and shame public figures using violent rhetoric against founder Julian Assange.
The victims of the Tucson shooting included intended target, Democrat representative Gabrielle Giffords, who survived a bullet through her brain at point-blank range.
Tucson Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, leading the investigation into the spree, said that “vitriolic rhetoric” designed to “inflame the public on a daily basis … has [an] impact on people, especially who are unbalanced personalities to begin with.”
Dupik also observed that officials and media personalities using their public platforms to incite violence “have to consider that they have some responsibility when incidents like this occur and may occur in the future.”
WikiLeaks staff and contributors are no strangers to threats by US media personalities. Former Governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin, urged the US administration to “Hunt down the WikiLeaks chief like the Taliban”, while US shock-jock, Rush Limbaugh, recommended: “Give [Fox News President Roger] Ailes the order and [then] there is no Assange… and there will be no fingerprints on it.”
In response to the varied and colourful threats, Assange said: “No organisation anywhere in the world is a more devoted advocate of free speech than WikiLeaks, but when senior politicians and attention-seeking media commentators call for specific individuals or groups of people to be killed they should be charged with incitement – to murder.”
“Those who call for an act of murder deserve as significant share of the guilt as those raising a gun to pull the trigger.”
Who are the PeopleOKWithMurderingAssange.com
“Julian Assange is a cyber terrorist in wartime, he’s guilty of sabotage, espionage, crimes against humanity — he should be killed, but we won’t do that.” Ralph Peters, US Army Lieutenant Colonel and author
“A dead man can’t leak stuff…This guy’s a traitor, he’s treasonous, and he has broken every law of the United States. And I’m not for the death penalty, so…there’s only one way to do it: illegally shoot the son of a bitch.” Bob Beckel, Fox News commentator
“Julian Assange is not an American citizen and he has no constitutional rights. So, there’s no reason that the CIA can’t kill him. Moreover, ask yourself a simple question: If Julian Assange is shot in the head tomorrow or if his car is blown up when he turns the key, what message do you think that would send about releasing sensitive American data?” John Hawkins, Far right blogger
“Folks like Julian Assange should be targeted as terrorists. They should be captured and kept in Guantanamo Bay, or killed.” Steve Gill, Right-wing Nashville radio host
“Back in the old days when men were men and countries were countries, this guy would die of lead poisoning from a bullet in the brain.” Rush Limbaugh, Right-wing radio host
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This Friday from 6 to 9 pm, art gallery 5547 Project, located in Irvington, will be opening an Earth Day themed event for 18 local and emerging artists. These artists will get a chance to reveal their perspective of our planet Earth and share them with the world.
The all-age and pet friendly art show is a free event which will include live musical performances from Thea and Thieves, Wesley Moore and Katie Garringer. Along with live music, there will be a fire dancing show put on by Haley Challies and Sarah Hoffman. The event will also feature local businesses from Beast Irvington who will provide free appetizers, and free beer tasting from BIMP(Beer Is My Passion). Another local business, Smokey Meat Sweats will have food for purchase. And our team from Indy Mojo will be at the opening reception as well to promote Mojo Mongrels, their Humane Society Mutt Strut team. Puppy chow will be available for purchase.
5547 Project is a unique art gallery that has been open for about a year. The garage-turned-gallery has a coffee shop inside, Coal Yard Coffee – your one stop shop for a daily fix of caffeine and art all in one! The gallery’s comfortable atmosphere allows anyone to come in, look, discuss, and purchase artwork to support local artists and businesses any day of the week. 5547 Project wants to be all about the artist and do not receive commission for displayed work. After renting out a wall, the artist will receive all of their profit.
In addition to First Friday art exhibitions at the 5547 Project, Coal Yard Coffee hosts different events every Friday which include comedy, spoken word and open mic night. Come out and support your local artists and businesses in Irvington!
Earthworks First Friday Event
5547 Project (5547 Bonna Ave 46219)
Friday April 3, 6 – 9 PM
Reflecting on an entire year’s worth of memories is always fun, but never easy. Rather than writing lists of the “best” of anything and everything that happened this year, we simply asked our staff what their favorite memory is from 2014.
What follows is a list of favorite concerts, festivals, artists, events and local releases that stand out as incredible memories in the minds of the Indy Mojo editorial staff. We hope you enjoy this walk down memory lane, but are equally excited for all that 2015 will bring us.
On behalf of everyone at Indy Mojo – Thank you for a great year!
EP1 by dr. Bass + vicelikemiami
Read our full review: Phases of the Moon Music and Arts Festival, a Look Back at the Last Festival of the Season
Read our recap of all our fundraising efforts for the 2014 Mutt Strut in this article, Mojo’s Mongrels run the Trap.
Read the full profile here: Young, Artistic Talent – Julie Young
This performance was just one of our top 10 moments at The Werkout. See the full list here: Don’t Miss a Werkout – the Top 10 Recap of The Werkout Music and Arts Festival
Read our recap of the 2014 Special Olympics Polar Plunge recap,
Bearded Ladies Escape Carnival Sideshow; Jump In Freezing Lake.
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Photo via DoingIndy.com
UV Hippo At Bells Brewery for the “Translate” Album Release Party
I got the chance to talk with Russel Jones of Ultra Violet Hippopotamus about their upcoming show this weekend at the Vogue in Indianapolis, Indiana. This will be their last show before taking a hiatus this winter, and they are more then excited to be celebrating it here in Indianapolis with all of their friends and family. This is sure to be a special show!
Album Release Party at Bell’s Brewery
Mojo: Saturday Night at the Vogue will be a three set show, will we be seeing any horn section?
Russ (UV Hippo): “Unfortunately, No. We are not going to have the horns with us, but we are still finalizing some of the details on a few surprises for you guys. The horn section is definitely something we want to continue in the future. When we come back we’d like to look into doing a whole tour with the horns.”
Mojo: Well it’s good to hear you talking about the future. A lot of people have been worried that this hiatus would lead to something more permanent.”
Russ (UV Hippo): “Yeah hiatus can be one of those words that people read into a little bit too much. We have been discussing taking a break for a while, but we didn’t want to have to announce anything. The whole plan was just to wind things back so we could focus on writing and progressing the music. We didn’t want to make an announcement and freak everyone out, but we wanted to answer any rumors going around about what was happening. We have all been itching to progress our music beyond a certain point, but we haven’t been able to allow ourselves to do so because of the amount of time we have been spending on the road. We really want to write a new album with an approach we have never had before, and it’s going to take time to develop something great.”
Mojo: “So at the end of this hiatus we should expect a new album?”
Russ (UV Hippo): “Yes there will be a new album. We are going to just take a break from each other in December and the beginning of January. We are going to get back together in January and just keep writing and finalizing some of the ideas we have going and progress things from there. There’s no strict time line on things because we want to allow ourselves to go through a creative process.”
Mojo: “Why did you guys pick Indianapolis for your last show, you are all from Michigan, so what made you choose Indy?”
Russ (UV Hippo): “Well our home base as of right now is Grand Rapids, Michigan, but Indianapolis and really Indiana in general, is one of the main reasons we have been able to do all that we do. We have made such good friends anywhere in Indiana that w have played and they have played such a big part in making us feel like yeah, we can do this. Indiana is one of those where bands go and they know a crowd will show up rain or shine because they want a good show and they appreciate good musicians.”
Mojo: “Last questions, there is a post on the World Wide Hippo Crew Facebook page about a crowd theme for Saturday’s show. I think the front runner is Ashton’s Closet. Do you have a vote?”
Russ (UV Hippo): “Ashton’s closet sounds great to me, just as long as he dresses the band too”
Get your tickets, they are going quick! Check out the website for details, www.uvhippomusic.com
Grab your tickets for the last show before the Hiatus in Indianapolis, Indiana!
Bass trio Terravita is bringing their Fuel To The Fire Tour to Indy this week. The group are not strangers to the city. They first came here to destroy Mojostock 2013, then came their performance at Old National that was more than explosive. This time, IndyMojo is bringing these guys to the Mousetrap and we are introducing our new 3D Projection Mapping. Whether you have witnessed Terravita’s dynamite performance already or have no idea what you are in for…Be there!
“Dominating the bass music scene for nearly a decade, Terravita has run the gamut when it comes to crowd-smashing, mind-melting electronic music. From the days of Drum & Bass to the era of contemporary Dubstep, Trap and everything in-between, Terravita know no limits when it comes to crafting the most staggering, bone-jarring bangers around. From their industry-leading sound-design to the razor-honed precision of their drums, Terravita are undeniable experts at their craft, and will inevitably remain so for many years to come.” – EDM.com
Terravita was catapulted into the public eye with the release of “Up In The Club”. The track that helped define the drumstep genre. Since then they have released over 12 top ten releases on the Beatport dubstep and drum & bass charts. The band has remixed Steve Aoki, Lil Jon, Chiddy Bang, Yelawolf, Datsik, Zedd & Bassnectar. Their last EP on Firepower Records “the Power of Fire” charted in the overall top five on Beatport for several weeks and included the hits “Well Oiled Machine” and “This Time Its Personal”. Terravita has toured with Steve Aoki, Datsik & Flux Pavilion and has played festivals like Electric Daisy Carnival (Vegas, Chicago, Orlando), I Love This City and Shambhala.
Earlier this year IndyMojo got the chance to talk to Terravita via phone. Click HERE to read that Interview.
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Mousetrap Bar & Grille
Haunted Angelus House is more than your run of the mill seasonal haunt. Aside from boasting a creepy haunted journey, it scares for a good cause.
Located on E. Washington Street, this combination haunted house/costume shop offers spooky thrills to help those in need. The Angelus House is a foundation supporting individuals with Cerebral Palsy, and the Haunted Angelus House proudly donates to this charitable fund. Additionally, the scarers at HAH coordinate canned food drives to stock local pantries.
Assisting the community while having a scary good time? It really doesn’t get much better than that.
This haunted house had just the right amount of chill and thrill. It’s moderate course time of about 25-30 minutes made it easy to get in, get scared, and then have the opportunity to grab dinner without it being too late.
This writer and her accomplice!
The Haunted Angelus House is certainly not for the faint of heart, but it is also relatively family friendly. There were terrifying moments that may, or may not, have involved evil clowns. Also, some of Hollywood’s scariest bad guys were seen thoughout the place. However, it was not pants-wettingly horrifying, so take that into consideration when planning.
This writer would recommend this haunted house to anyone searching for a creepy evening. If you aren’t too faint of heart, and don’t want to be touched (it’s a no-touch facility) than the Haunted Angelus House is for you!
Never miss a Werkout; after all, it’s for your health. The Werkout, a 3-day event filled with music, art, and all things silly, took place from August 7th-9th in Thornville, OH. An oasis of wonder and shenanigans, what more could one ask for?
After spending the time of our lives at Legends Valley, we set upon the task of reviewing the festival, recounting it for those who were there and recapping it for those who weren’t.
How to boil it down? Condensing 72 hours of bliss into simple text on a screen can be a challenge, but we’ve debated and discussed, recalled and reminisced, and this is the result. A list of 10 moments, bands, people, and situations to paint the picture of the Werkout.
10. The Comedy Stylings of Mr. Jesse Brown AKA The Blue Power Ranger
Jesse Brown (Left) and Johnathan Blackburn (Right) in front of the Furthur Bus at The Werkout 2014 (Photo: Gloria Ponciano)
Amusing would be an understatement had you met this gentleman moseying through the grounds on Saturday night. This guy was the real deal from the costume to his swift reenactment of “It’s morphin time!” He was a true entertainer, as most witnesses would say. His comical gestures and witty dialogue were the perfect way to transition from one set to another. I walked out of the situation with stomach cramps because I was laughing so hard. Werkout citizen Kenny Beebe went on to describe him as “Eloquent. He just kept on going forever. I didn’t want him to stop talking. This guy had to be a professional; he really put on a show.”
Jesse, if you’re out there and ever decide to go on tour just know that you’ve got yourself plenty of fans.
9. El Fuego
Enchanting fire breathing displayed during Zoogma’s Saturday night set at The Werkout 2014 (Photo: Aaron Lingenfelter)
A non-musical, yet integral, part of the festival were the performance artists throughout the weekend. Nestled near the stages was a performance area set up specifically for performance artists of all kinds: hoopers, poi spinners, fire breathers and more. Performances of this kind are not uncommon to festivals by any means; in fact, they’re almost as expected as music is. However, Saturday’s events were something special.
As nightfall came and Zoogma tore through their incendiary set, fire performers captivated throngs of audience members with their craft. The performers worked three at a time, joining forces to create choreographed masterpieces of movement and light. Bright flames circled around on smooth trajectories, tearing beautiful patterns into the cool night air. It was mesmerizing. It was unreal.
Honorable mention: Fire cannons. Specifying further, computer-controlled, propane-fueledfire-cannons… with whistles to boot! Who knows what to officially call these contraptions; they shot short blasts of gas through an exhaust whistle and past an igniter. Epic. But… why, you may ask? Because that shit is awesome.
8. Ultraviolet Hippopotamus’ Saturday Night Special
Making the list of incredible performances to hit The Werkout on Saturday night was UV Hippo’s groovy performance. Always blistering and always on point, the band set the evening vibe right with their second set of the extended weekend. Starting out with the soothing and surreal, “Medicine”, Hippo amped up the energy track after track for the duration of their hour-long set. Moving through a 6-song set bordering on an average of 10 minutes a song they jammed their way through as only Hippo can do. The result? A meandering trail of color-clad humanoids dancing their way throughout the venue.
Set List: Medicine > Verlander, Georgie (w/ Kenn Mogel on guitar), DNT, Tugboat, La Marea
Stream or download the entire set here
7. The Werks’ Two Sets on Saturday
The Werks getin down Saturday Night at The Werkout 2014 (Photo: Aaron Lingenfelter)
The Werks kept fans at attention with every beat of the night, hitting all of the right notes throughout both sets. They even brought the staff and production crew on stage for a solid moment of recognition; a grand round of applause. Zane Kesey and Derek Stevens from the Further bus did a narrative for the Anniversary of Jerry Garcia’s death. Dave Weissman, the festival’s media organizer, and his son even joined the stage; dressed in galactic space wear (complete with capes), they played air guitar during the last song.
Plain White Toast
Hard To Find Jam
Better Half
Fire Eater
Gameplan.
Galactic Passport
Cryptical Envelopment
Rollin’
6. The Furthur Bus
Furthur bus posted up at The Werkout 2014 (Photo: Aaron Lingenfelter)
Zane Kesey (the son of famed author Ken Kesey), Derek Stevens, and the next generation of pranksters made their way to The Werkout on their 50th anniversary tour. The bus, a beautiful piece of art and history on wheels was a one stop shop for fun, games, merch, and even a wedding! The Werk Out was the 6th official stop on their tour outside of their initial travels in Oregon in June. I had the pleasure of speaking to Derek over the phone to ask a few questions, detailing their experiences on the road.
How did the Werk Out become so lucky to be one of the stops of the tour?
“Actually, we were privileged enough to be invited by Rob Chafin of the Werks. I had the pleasure of talking to him over the phone a few times, and he said that they were trying to plan something special for us out there and said he’d appreciate it if we could make it.”
Is it safe to say that the Werks was probably your favorite gig out there?
“Without a doubt. The Werks were on top of it, it was a great gig across the board. They really stepped it up.”
Were there any other bands that caught your attention? “
Actually to be honest I didn’t make it out on the grounds to explore very much until late night but hands down Zach Deputy. We had him on the bus, a little private recording session, and he just blew us all away.”
Is there any advice that you want to share with the youth of America and next generation of merry panksters?
“Best thing to keep in mind is that it’s okay to think differently. It’s okay to express yourself with music and art. Whatever it is that brings up your passion…. We’re not saying to tune in, turn on and drop out by any means. We don’t even roll like that anymore, especially right now on tour. You can be high on the hill but you end up missing those little things, you know? Be you and have fun. It’s okay to be yourself. You don’t have to go down any set path to be free and have fun. It’s all about living in the moment and not missing those little things.”
He went on to share a few intimate moments they had along the tour and added, “It’s those stories that color what this entire experience is about. You know, we actually had an opportunity to get – and I’d hate to mention it – corporate sponsors, but we turned it down. It didn’t feel right not having the bus on the road interacting with people. That’s not what this bus was about and we’re glad that we didn’t. We’ve made so many friends – lifelong friends – along the way.”
Next stop on the Bus tour will be in Baltimore, MD at The 8×10 room with special guest John Kadlecik of Furthur this Tuesday, August 19.
Check out more tour dates here
5. The Werks’ Stripped Down VIP Set/Q&A Meet and Greet
This may have not been a part of the main festival, and it wasn’t accessible for everyone, but it definitely deserves to be on the list. As a part of the VIP ticket package for The Werkout, ticketholders were treated with a special set from The Werks in the VIP lounge. Relaxed and laid back, it gave audience members a chance to see the band and interact with them in an uncommonly intimate setting. The session started with a heartfelt thank you from The Werks, detailing how fans and supporters are truly the reason that events like The Werkout exist. It felt good.
Seated among a group of spectators, The Werks played several stripped down songs including a new and yet-to-be released tune. They told stories and joked around. It was comfortable and enjoyable. After the short performance, they moved on to a Q&A session with the audience, prompting us to ask anything about the band, the festival, or whatever else was on our mind.
The shining moment of the Q&A session, you ask? They announced that there were 7 cinematographers filming Thursday’s Dark Side performance. The kicker? The soundboard audio and video of the set will be edited and released, FOR FREE, in several weeks once the project is completed. Another tasty tidbit? Anthony Thogmartin of Papadosio is mastering the audio. The days can’t tick by fast enough.
4. Everyone Orchestra
Matt Butler in his slick get up during Everyone Orchestra at The Werkout 2014 (Photo: Aaron Lingenfelter)
For those who don’t know, Everyone Orchestra is the ever changing, improvisational, brainchild of musician Matt Butler. Boiled down to its core, it’s a jam session, but not just any old jam. Featuring a rotating cast of some of the world’s top musicians (past participants have included members of The Grateful Dead, Phish, moe., String Cheese Incident, Taj Mahal, a presidential candidate and more).
For The Werkout’s incarnation, EO was a 14-piece band creating brass-laden funk fusion with Butler manning the helm as the Orchestra’s psychedelic conductor. He guided the group of musicians toward their auditory goal, creating and closing sonic space as he sees fit. As any musician will tell you, that’s easier said than done, especially with 14 people improvising at a time. Butler guided the group through the jam using vocal cues, hand gestures, and a little whiteboard that he feverishly scribbles directions to the musicians on. It truly is an awesome and silly sight of madness and music.
Stream or Download the set here
3. Zoogma’s Saturday Night Set
WTF is a Zoogma? Saturday night set at the Werkout 2014 (Photo: Aaron Lingenfelter)
The 4-piece livetronica outfit hailing from Oxford, Mississippi, took no prisoners with Saturday’s set at The Werkout festival, their second overall performance of the weekend. Sandwiched between The Werks’ two sets that night, they had some big shoes to fill. Zoogma pulled through with what may have been the most talked about set of the weekend.
As the last notes of The Werks’ first set tapered off, the bass took hold from the opposite stage… and so it began. Contrasting the stylings of the previous act’s more traditional sound, Zoogma was a swirling synthesis of organic and electronic instrumentation. Wasting no time and starting things off with a bang, they launched into what can only be described as an electro-blues banger. “Let My Shorty Ride (RL Burnside x Young Buck)”, a seamless blend of hip-hop and righteous gritty slide guitar, foreshadowed what was to come over the course of their set: an eclectic mix of originals and reworkings of a slew of other tracks.
Additional highlights of the set were the Michael Jackson and Eagles classics “Thriller” and “Hotel Crunkafornia (Notorious B.I.G. x The Eagles)”, respectively. For those of you who weren’t there, let’s get one thing straight: these were not simply covers, but incredibly solid and innovative rehashes of the original masterpieces. One has never heard such guitar playing like this during a “Thriller” performance, guaranteed.
As “Thriller” climaxed in one final intensifying crescendo, a surprise awaited, the opening notes to “Hotel California” rang out, soon to be layered in with some Biggie vocals. Intriguing? Damn straight. With dueling guitars and saw-bass low-end, Zoogma soared on this one; imagine Joe Walsh and Don Felder duking it out on the famous solo, but only that this time through they had discovered the glory of Ableton before writing the track. Hands. Down. Breathtaking.
Let My Shorty Ride
Jerry Diesel
Starrey Eyed Thriller
Hotel Crunkifornia
Stream or Download the full set here
2. Zach Deputy
The one-man-band from Savannah, GA that kept on keepin’ on! It was almost impossible to keep from ‘to his funky tunes, even if you were just passing through for that midafternoon delight. Had the dance floor not been made of rocks, people surely would have kicked off their boogie shoes! The guitar was funky with a few flicks of beat boxing here and there and Deputy laid down smooth, soulful, swingin’ vocals. This man would have you down in New Orleans one minute then out with island fever the next.
Deputy made sure to engage the audience throughout his set to enhance the vibe and step up the jive. He kept the loop train going all throughout Friday and Saturday night, even on into Sunday morning. Even the schedule didn’t know what time he would be done! Embracing his collaborative spirit, he also provided vocals during the Dark Side and Everyone Orchestra sets as well. What ‘chu know ‘bout The Deputy?!
1. And the downright obvious of the all things epic: Dark Side of the Werk Out set!
Epic Dark Side of the Werkout Set with The Werks, Papadosio, and Dopapod (Photo: Joe Chung)
What an incredible way to bring in the first night of the festival. There was so much zest and excitement in the air leading up to this set of epic wonder. By the time The Werks ended their last song of their first set the crowd had swelled up. One could feel the intensity and the anticipation for what was about to take place – the fifteen minute set change seemed to take forever.
Finally, each band member took their place and the lights dimmed to their appropriate state. The crowd cheered louder with every pulse that lead into the sudden stroke of “Breathe”, and then the pack got wild! Chills are currently pacing their way up and down this writer’s spine just reliving that moment. And who better to open up the tribute other than the festival director and beat master of The Werks himself, Rob Chafin.
As if the Dark Side set wasn’t enough, more surprises made their way into this grand recital. Kevin Dumont laid down the smooth and saxxy melodies during “Money.” The enchanting vocals of Mr. Zach Deputy were brought in for “Great Gig in the Sky”, and, boy did that man bring a few people down to their knees! Making their way through the crowd at that moment was the full cast of Wizard of Oz, even the Lollipop Guild, as the movie played on the backdrop. Overall, it was an inspiring sight to behold.
There it is, the Werkout in review. While this isn’t an all-inclusive list or even the big picture of what went down that weekend, it’s our little version. Short and condensed, just add water – or beer – to reconstitute. Given the chance, would we go again? Yes. As for you, the reader, should you consider it next year? That’s not for us to say, but, if this article was met with intrigue and a peaked interest, you probably already know the answer to that question.
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The Werkout 2014 with Aaron Lingenfelter
The Werkout 2014 with Joe Chung
Midwest State Of Mind was formed by a couple of guys from Greenwood, IN. Andrew Thompson (guitar and vocals) and Jay Patton (bass) grew up together and decided one day they needed more people to jam with. The group has seen different guitarist and drummers but these two have stuck it out since the beginning. They found Casey Ruggles (drummer) on craigslist. Jay’s long time buddy Matt Riegel (guitar) stepped in to join the band recently and helped finish their debut album.
The band’s sound has many different flavors. This is due to their influences having a range from Zeppelin to Rage Against The Machine to Sublime. This release has a little something for everyone. It is a good mix of rock, alternative and blues. Songs like “What You Wanted” and “Confusion” are heavy rock, then you have “It’s Mint” and “Policia” that have a more alternative feel. They bring it down and kick some for the ladies in the bluesy ballad of “Power”. Their best known show closer “One Day” is a very upbeat and positive ditty that gets the crowd moving.
The first track on the album is entitled “My Mind” and the lyrics were written by Matt Duncan. It captures the meltdown of chasing your problems away with sedation. Written almost 4 years ago and the band has been playing it live for over 2 years now. You might notice the intro for the song is taken from the TV show Alf. Check out the exclusive preview of the song below.
This Friday, May 9th they will having an album release party at the Vogue Theater. Fellow locals will be joining them such as Breakdown Kings, Phoenix At The Fault Line, and The Max Allen Band. Hosted by the legendary Ron Jeremy. Come try out his new Rum De Jeremy and pick up a copy of Midwest State Of Mind’s new album.
Photos by Magnetic Focus Photography
Let the incense rise and your pipe dreams soar because the Magic Bus is quite the eclectic store. Amidst a small strip in the east wing of Broad Ripple Ave is where you will find this enchanted palace. In addition to being greeted with copious amounts of merchandise to explore, you are also welcomed with witty smiles and hellos from the quirky, and sometimes barefoot staff. Hop on as we travel to your 4/20 destination for the holidaze but make sure you follow these simple guidelines because although it’s no secret that they have the tools for your heady needs, nobody wants to get kicked off for making a not so minor mistake.
The Magic Bus is A kind store for kind people. It’s as simple as it sounds folks, be nice! If you’ve ever heard to be careful at The Bus because they tend to be strict, it’s for a good reason.
Leah, the store manager, and Adrian, staff manager, go over the guiding principles of commerce at The Magic Bus. We wanted to better understand why The Magic Bus has a reputation for being strict with their customers. Leah explains,
Rules are rules. We have to follow them or we can’t exist. We’re here to serve our guests as best as we can but we can only do that if they follow the rules. As a customer, know what state you live in and what’s legal in your state. If someone implies that they’re going to use one of our products illegally, excise would fine us (the store) $10,000 and that person who implied illegal use $1,000. We don’t want anybody to get into trouble and I hate refusing service to people especially on 4/20 weekend but it’s best to let them know ahead of time. Usually in our spiel we say ‘every day is a new day’. You’re not banned from the store, come back tomorrow. The only people who are banned from the store are people who steal and are complete assholes.
So what words are appropriate when refering to your smoke?
Adrian advises,
Learn the words pollen and pipe. Point-and-grunt always works. You can never go wrong with saying pipe. You don’t have to say tobacco pipe.
On a related note if you ask for a bong they would be happy to sell you the kind you use for showing off your alcohol inhaling abilities. So maybe they’re strict but look at it this way: they’re saving you from a $1,000 fine. That’ll set you behind about a month’s worth of living expenses. A few simple guidelines will help you stay in good graces at The Magic Bus:
DON’T SPEAK THOSE DIRTY WORDS!
To be clear: saying words like weed, bud, bong, blazed, doobie, herb, kief, or anything illegal are absolute NO-NO’s. And this goes without saying, but don’t buy tobacco products for minors, either. (duh)
KEEP YOUR SHOES ON!
If you’re on your way out of the store and you look up in the left corner you might notice a randompile of shoes chillin’ above the door. That’s not where the staff keeps theirs while they’re on the clock. Those are the shoes of people who have decided to abandon them at the store instead of having the cops called on them for stealing. Again, Leah explains:
We started this rule when this store opened about 11 years ago. We’ve probably accrued about 30 shoes over that time period. If we catch somebody stealing, we usually give them two options: either we call the cops or give us their shoes and never come back again. Ninety percent of the time they hop right out of their shoes and walk out the door. We give them this option because we just don’t want a reason for the cops to come here, you know?
Aside from the in-store footwear attraction you will find many locally-made items in the store from apparel to pipes. Store manager Leah has items on the shelf that she crocheted herself. A former employee, Lindsay Moran has candles for sale from her company, Wicka Wicka, offering soy based wax for a cleaner burn with delightful fragrances! Also look for the presence of an Indianapolis-based company that makes Headwear for the Counter Culture, No Bad Ideas. You can even buy tickets to shows at the Vogue from The Bus! I wasn’t exaggerating when I say eclectic. If you head into the pipe room you may spot a few locally blown water pipes from Huffy Glass, a glass studio based in Bloomington. Speaking of pipes let’s add “free” and “discount” into the equation.
During the weekend of 4/20 starting Thursday, April 17th EVERYTHING in the store is 20% off AND on the day of 4/20 there will be a raffle every hour on the 20th minute from open to close. When 4:20 hits the clock the GRAND raffle will commence. There are currently three BEAUTIFUL pipes on display behind the register that are for the three winners of the hour. So make sure you get an entry in quick! So you see, it’s all fun and games until somebody drops a word bomb. If you were to make an honest mistake they’d be happy to guide you to the appropriate terminology. They’re more than just staff at The Magic Bus; they’re artists, musicians, mothers, and all of them are quite the comedians. They’re there to help you; no question is a stupid question. Take it from Vince, who has been a bus employee for almost two years.
Bus Associate, Vince holding up a locally crafted wood burning piece
I really enjoy taking the time to talk to the guest and getting to know their needs. Some of the products I recommend are more expensive, but it’s about quality. It’s not like we’re making commission off these products. It’s like this: if you give guests quality service and they walk away with a quality product, that’s a guarantee that they will come back again. Plain and simple.
Lots of people would be contraire to the strict stereotype many associate with The Bus. A few customers recently described The Bus as chill, supercalifragilisticexpialidocious, beautiful, and diverse. Rod, the store owner, sums it up in a single word: “Shenanigans.” So why not stop in for the holidaze? Pop in, play fair, and shop local!
Bus Associate, Preston and the Magical Mannequin
Magic Bus Facebook
No Bad Ideas
Wicka Wicka Facebook
The Magic Bus 4/20 Sale!
Ready to Laugh OUT Loud? Indy Pride & Talbott Street are proud to present the one-of-a-kind Wendy Ho, who combines musical and comedy into a raunchy cabaret. Draq queens have been performing her numbers for years, and now you get to hear her sing them live! The show also features the return of the stand up talents of Keith McGill!
Laugh OUT Loud is one of the few times a year Indy Pride is raising money for ourselves, and your support helps us with rent, insurance, and other general fund needs. So, sit back and enjoy an evening of comedy, and help us continue on our mission to support this community!
Laugh OUT Loud Starring Wendy Ho
Tickets are $25 online and $30 at the door, with your first cocktail included in the ticket price. Indy Pride members receive a $5 discount online with a promo code, which will be emailed out to you. Indy Pride Board Members will also be selling tickets.
Doors: 7pm
Show: 8pm
Here are links to Wendy Ho’s videos. Needless to say these are not really safe for work!
Who is Wendy Ho? – http://youtu.be/b3EQSrSD70c
Oprah Winfrey – http://youtu.be/P8OYQ3FbXOY
F$ck Me (Live in the Studio) – http://youtu.be/hLncV_pIYuA
Poop Noodle – http://youtu.be/1xc_BJxdDgg
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In just two more days Indianapolis will be hosting its first two-day all EDM festival. This line-up is full of talent and there is a little something for everyone. Genres will range from Trance to House to Dubsteb to Drum and Bass to Trap and all of it being on the same stage. There will be no need to worry about missing an act or switching stages.
The event will be held at Opti Park in Broad Ripple and kicks off this Friday, September 13th at 5 PM and Saturday starting at 1 PM. It is all ages and will have feature after parties held at The Vogue that will be 21 and over.
Oakenfold’s career kicked off in the early 90’s and to this day he is one of the biggest Trance DJs in the world. He has release dozens of mixes and played for massive crowds all over the world for years. His newest and highly anticipated full length album “Pop Killer” is due to be released this year.
www.pauloakenfold.com
www.facebook.com/oakenfold
www.soundcloud.com/pauloakenfold
Chicago based duo J2K (Josh Young) and Autobot (Curt Cameruci) have been involved in the Hip Hop scene for a good minute. Collaborating with the likes of A-Trak, Diplo, and The Cool Kids, just to name a few. Most recently they have been producing widely popular Trap beats.
http://flosstradamus.com/
https://www.facebook.com/flossstradamus
https://soundcloud.com/flosstradamus
KEYS N KRATES
Catching this trio based of Toronto should be a priority for you this weekend. The mixture of electronic music using raw samples and live instruments makes this a show you need to see.
http://www.keysnkrates.com/
https://www.facebook.com/keysnkrates
https://soundcloud.com/keysnkrates
A-SQUARED
Two of the hottest club DJs in Indy, A-Squared will be kicking off Wheel House on Friday.
http://www.asquaredindustries.com/
https://www.facebook.com/asquaredindustries
https://soundcloud.com/a2industries
WOLFGANG GARTNER
Wolfgang Gartner (Joseph Youngman) started out as a Deep House DJ and created the name he goes by now because of his abrupt transfer into the Electro House genre. The transition proved to be a major success with eight #1 tracks on Beatport, hosting a show on MTV, and being among the most wanted at every major festival around the world.
http://www.wolfganggartner.com/
https://www.facebook.com/djwolfganggartner
https://soundcloud.com/wolfganggartner
THE CRYSTAL METHOD
Formed in the early 90’s by Ken Jordan and Scott Kirkland, The Crystal Method have been icons of the EDM world since their inception. Their debut and certified platinum release Vegas, had five of its ten tracks released as top singles. The group’s music has been featured in movies (City of Angels, Spawn) and video games (Need For Speed:Underground, Project Gotham Racing, League of Legends).
http://thecrystalmethod.com/
https://www.facebook.com/thecrystalmethod
https://soundcloud.com/the-crystal-method
Indiana born Josh Gard, has had one remarkable ride in the EDM scene. Starting out as a hip hop DJ, then mastering the skill of Fidget House and finally dominating the Drumstep scene. His horror-themed tracks have been some of the most memorable of all. His name traveled like thunder through-out the electronic realm. After several full length album releases he caught the attention of OWSLA (Skrillex’s label) and his album Horns of the Apocalypse was released yesterday on the label.
https://www.facebook.com/IMFIGURE
https://soundcloud.com/figure
Hailing from Rhode Island, Abraham Orellana made his name by showing off his skills on a MPC drum machine. He is no stranger to producing beats with some big names such as Cam’ron and Vado, The Diplomats, Hell Rell, Jadakiss, Busta Rhymes and Fabolous. The video below speaks volumes of why you need to see this man live.
http://www.araabmuzikmvp.com/
https://www.facebook.com/AraabMuzikMVP
https://soundcloud.com/araabmuzik
LA based producer whose remix of Kayne West’s Mercy was #1 on Soundcloud and has well over a million plays. Check out some of his other releases; you won’t be disappointed.
https://www.facebook.com/SALVABEATS
https://soundcloud.com/salva
Action Jackson is a premier DJ in the Midwest. He currently hosts OMG! every Wednesday night at the Casba in Broad Ripple and Night Moves every Friday night at The Metro on Mass Ave. Also know for being a partner of the well known Rad Summer and a producer on the label as well. Action can keep the dance floor going and this weekend you will find out just why.
http://actionjackson.radsummer.com/
https://www.facebook.com/deejayactionjackson
Bloomington-based producer Jarrod Linne is a rising star in the Midwest. His beats flow through the crowd like a shock wave. His dance moves on stage keep the crowd excited and most certainly the mask adds to the effect his entire performance. He is a part of the G-9 collective and appears frequently at IndyMojo events.
https://www.facebook.com/shyguysayswhat
https://soundcloud.com/shy-guy-says
X5IGHT
Chicago natives Brandon and Jerry have been producing individually for several years, and decided in November 2012, to put their knowledge and talents together. Their debut EP The Radiance was released in July. Check them out Saturday when they start the party off with their electro & progressive house, trance, and dubstep sounds.
https://www.facebook.com/X5IGHT
https://soundcloud.com/x5ight
After Parties
Friday After Party @ The Vogue
Ohbeone
Cadillac G
Topher Jones
Dub Knight
Saturday After Party @ The Vogue
Gabby Love
DJ Lockstar
Bad Boy Bill and Richard Vission
Bryan Downs
Both after parties are $20 at the door or tickets can be purchased through www.wheelhousefestival.com
Home Page: http://www.wheelhousefestival.com
Event Page : https://www.facebook.com/WheelHouseFestival
Tickets can be purchased at http://www.wheelhousefestival.com/tickets.html use promo code: Mojo
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Young, George
George Young was a teacher at the Shingwauk Indian Residential School ca. 1955-1970.
Video footage of Shingwauk Residential School students
Submitted by krista on Fri, 10/17/2014 - 11:34
[Digitized 2009 (originally created 1964-1968)]
1.05 GB of electronic moving images. - 2 video clips: ca. 17 min.
Video footage shows students at the Shingwauk Residential School and around Sault Ste Marie, Ontario.
Video footage has been digitized from 8mm film. The SRSC only holds digital copies of this material.
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George Young fonds
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Indigenous Peoples in North America--Canada--Residential schools
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Shingwauk Indian Residential School (Sault Ste. Marie, Ont.)
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Note to George Young from J.F. Murphy
Submitted by krista on Thu, 12/15/2011 - 09:13
J.F. Murphy
0.1 cm of textual record.- 1 note
This note is written on birch bark and is very fragile. Tape has been removed from the note due to conservation concerns. Note reads: "Dear Mr Young, Re: Michael MacKay, Charlie Pepdbino. They have been playing softball for the Intermediate Boys Team (Queen Elizabeth School). They were dismissed at 5:25 pm from Anna McCrea School. Yours truly, J.F. Murphy
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Interviews of George Young and Shirley (Fletcher) Horn (copy three)
Submitted by krista on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 09:43
1 audio cassette (60 min.)
Residential School Centre
Audio-visual collection, sound recordings series
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Interviews of George Young and Shirley (Fletcher) Horn (copy two)
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18 cm of graphic record and moving images.
64 photographs : b&w and col.
2 film reels : Kodachrome, original
Thematically by item type
History Biographical:
George Young was a guidance counselor and teacher at the Shingwauk Residential School from 1964-1968. In 1963 George Young was hired by Indian affairs as a teacher. He was initially employed in Tabik near Chapleau, Ont as a teacher. At the end of the school year in 1963 Young was transferred to Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario and began working as a teacher/counselor at Shingwauk.
In his role as a counselor Young provided remedial teaching services and took Shingwauk students to various industries and places in Sault Ste. Marie to expose students to culture and employment opportunities. Young also ran the evening homestudy program from 4:00-9:00 pm on weekday evenings. As a counselor Young took students on a number of field trips to such places as: Chippewa Falls, Hiawatha, Algoma Steel, and the 1967 Montreal Expo. Young was also involved in the Shingwauk "Arrow to the Moon" production and other extracurricular activities.
After leaving Shingwauk Young went on to marry Ella Visitor. Ella was a student of Shingwauk Indian Residential School however she was not at the School during Young's tenure. Ella and George met at a walk-a-thon and went on to have three children together. George participated in many of the Shingwauk Reunions and was an early supporter of the Shingwauk Project.
He is pictured on the right.
Scope Content:
Fonds comprises records documenting activities at Shingwauk Indian Residential School. Fonds includes general photographs of staff and students and photographs relating to various theater productions performed by the students of Shingwauk.
Associated Material:
There are interviews with George Young in the Shingwauk 1991 Reunion fonds and the Audio series of the Shingwauk Residential Schools Centre audio-visual collection.
Custodial History:
Material donated to the Shingwauk Project by George Young.
Access Restriction:
Repro Restriction:
Reproductions are dependent on the fragility of the originals. Researchers must adhere to applicable copyright law and privacy legislation and permission of the copyright holder is required to publish from the fonds.
Conservation:
Basic conservation performed during processing.
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It was February 1980, 10 months before the untimely death of John Lennon, that Australia and possibly the world's, first tribute show THE BEATNIX was conceived and produced by Tony Dean - founding member and now owner/manager.
Coming from a Show Band background, popular in the 1970's and touring Australia wide, Tony was used to playing covers including Beatles, Doobie Brothers, Beach Boys, Hollies, Bee Gees, & Eagles, all great harmony groups, plus songs directly from the top twenty hit parade but then "Punk" came along and it was out of the question to play that style of music.
It was suggested we play more Beatles music, everybody loves The Beatles. From that simple suggestion Tony thought "lets play only Beatles songs", hence the first tribute show was conceived.
Originally put together for a four week season in Perth, Western Australia, the shows proved so popular that after 18 months it was decided to make the move to Sydney where the show is now based and is available to travel worldwide.
The Beatnix Show includes fully authentic musical instruments identical to those used by The Beatles.
These include very rare and valuable guitars including;
George Harrison's: Gretsch Country Gentleman, Rickenbacker 12 String & Gibson SG.
Paul McCartney's: Hofner Violin Bass & Rickenbacker Bass.
John Lennon's: Gibson Acoustic J160E, Rickenbacker 320 short-scale & Epiphone Casino.
Vox AC30 guitar amplifiers and a Vox AC50 bass amplifier with a T60 bass cabinet.
Ringo's: Ludwig Black Oyster Pearl drum kit with Zildjian Cymbals.
We also have an authentic Sitar which we use occasionally but it is very unstable in the tuning department under stage lights.
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High intensity key for Atletico to beat Barcelona in King's Cup
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Atletico Madrid will have to win at Barcelona's Nou Camp for the first time in a decade Tuesday if they are to reach the King's Cup final
Sevilla lose ground after draw with Villarreal
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A guide to how to keep up with the badminton at Gold Coast 2018
A guide to how to keep up with badminton at Gold Coast 2018
Preparations are complete and Team Scotland has led the parade of nations at the Opening Ceremony at Gold Coast 2018. Now it’s time for the Games to begin!
To help you keep up to date with all the action, we have put together the following short guide to badminton at the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games.
Scotland will be represented by an eight-strong team in the badminton events, which will be played on all 11 days of the Games, from 5-15 April at the Carrara Sports and Leisure Centre.
First up is the team event from 5-9 April, before the individual events get underway on April 10.
Comprehensive coverage of the Games is being provided by BBC across various platforms, and you can view a guide to their coverage here.
Although there may be badminton coverage scheduled for BBC TV and the red button, you can also watch online live streams here.
In the team event, Scotland are in group A with Pakistan, Sri Lanka and top seeds India. Four years ago in Glasgow, Scotland reached the quarter finals of the team event, although their best ever result is the bronze medal won in Manchester in 2002.
In the individual events at Glasgow 2014 Robert Blair and Imogen Bankier won a bronze medal in mixed doubles, while Kirsty Gilmour scooped Scotland’s best ever result in singles at the Commonwealth Games, winning silver.
The overall match schedule as it currently stands is shown below. Remember, the Gold Coast is nine hours ahead of us, so don’t get caught out by the time difference.
The draw for the individual events has been made, although is not yet online. However, you can read our preview featuring who the Scots will face here.
Once the daily match schedules are published for the individual events, they will be online here.
Team Event
Thursday April 5
Scotland v Pakistan 09:00-12:30pm (midnight-03:30am UK time)
Scotland v Sri Lanka 19:00-22:30 (10:00-13:30 UK time)
Friday April 6
India v Scotland 14:00-17:30 (05:00-08:30am UK time)
Saturday April 7
Quarter-finals 1 & 2 11:00-14:30 (02:00-05:30am UK time)
Quarter-finals 3 & 4 17:30-21:00 (08:30-midday UK time)
Sunday April 8
Semi-final 11:00-15:00 (02:00-06:00 UK time)
Semi-final 17:50-21:30 (08:30-12:30pm UK time)
Monday April 9
Bronze medal match 11:00-15:00 (02:00-06:00 UK time)
Gold medal match 17:30-21:30 (08:30-12:30pm UK time)
Preliminaries singles and doubles 09:00-15:00 (midnight-06:00 UK time)
Preliminaries singles and doubles 16:30-22:30 (07:30-13:30pm UK time)
Thursday April 12
Preliminaries singles and doubles 11:00-15:00 (02:00-06:00 UK time)
Friday April 13
Quarter-finals singles and doubles 11:00-15:30 (02:00-06:30 UK time)
Quarter-finals singles and doubles 17:30-21:00 (08:30-12:00pm UK time)
Semi-finals singles and doubles 11:00-15:00 (02:00-06:00 UK time)
Singles, doubles bronze medal matches 17:30-22:30 (08:30-13:30pm UK time)
Sunday April 15
Singles, doubles gold medal matches 09:00-14:00 (midnight-05:00am UK time)
Finally, below are links to various websites which might be of interest
Team Scotland Official Website
Gold Coast 2018 Official Website
BBC Online Coverage
BBC Guide to day by day action
sportscotland
Enjoy the Games! #TeamScot2018
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New Survey Shows Young People Are Staying Liberal and Conservatives Dying Off
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New Survey Shows Young People Are Staying Liberal and Conservatives Are Dying Off
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Sofia Hidalgo, 15, of Albert Einstein High School in Kensington, Maryland, and other students calling for Congress to act on gun control, demonstrate at the Capitol on February 21, 2018. Photo: Tom Williams/CQ-Roll Call,Inc.
For obvious reasons, the broadly liberal demographic trends in American politics have received much less attention since the 2016 election. Yet the fact remains that America is politically sorted by generations in a way it never has before. The oldest voters are the most conservative, white, and Republican, and the youngest voters the most liberal, racially diverse, and Democratic. There is absolutely no sign the dynamic is abating during the Trump years. If anything, it is accelerating.
The most recent Pew Research Survey has more detail about the generational divide. It shows that the old saw that young people would naturally grow more conservative as they age, or that their Democratic loyalties were an idiosyncratic response to Barack Obama’s unique personal appeal, has not held. Younger voters have distinctly more liberal views than older voters:
One could probably quibble with the overall definitions of which voters have liberal views and which have conservative views. What’s telling here is the comparison between generations. By Pew’s given definition, younger voters are wildly more liberal than older ones. The youngest voters have nearly five times as many voters with liberal views than with conservative views. The oldest voters have one and a half times more conservative than liberal voters.
Correspondingly, the Democratic lean of millennial voters is as strong as ever:
In the upcoming midterm elections, millennials are providing a huge share of the Democrats’ edge, with older generations splitting their vote relatively close:
In previous elections, especially those without a president on the ballots, millennials showed up in far lower numbers than older voters. So far they indicate a much stronger interest in voting:
Democrats are benefiting from what political scientists call “thermostatic public opinion,” in which preferences about the size of government tend to swing in the opposite direction of which party controls the presidency. Some of the liberal trends in public opinion are a simple reaction to Trump. But there are also longer-standing trends on some social issues. Within generations, opinion on the role of immigrants is moving left and has been since early in President Obama’s first term:
Likewise, opinions about race — and the degree to which racism plays an important role in holding back African-Americans — are also moving left. This is a triumph of activism by Black Lives Matter and other groups calling attention to racism:
It is hard to focus on this trend at a moment when Republicans have full control of government, and are heading into an election where gerrymandering gives them a large advantage in maintaining Congress. But this fact runs headlong against a much longer deterioration of the conservative position within the electorate. Many conservatives supported Trump precisely because they were panicked about this trend. So far, Trump is merely accelerating the demise they feared.
In the long run, as John Maynard Keynes quipped, “We are all dead.” But over the long run, the Republicans are especially dead.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/new-survey-young-staying-liberal-conservatives-dying-off.html
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House Republicans Convene to Discuss Puerto Rico Legislation
by Greg 15 Apr 2016
Speaker Paul Ryan is holding a special meeting with Republicans to discuss the Puerto Rico Oversight, Management and Economic Stability Act (PROMESA). Ahead of the Republican special session, the religious development group Jubilee USA sent a letter from its executive director advocating passage with key changes.
Speaker Paul Ryan is holding a special meeting with Republicans to discuss the Puerto Rico Oversight, Management and Economic Stability Act (PROMESA). The legislation was to be debated on Thursday, but Republican leadership slowed the process down because of negotiations on the legislation. Ahead of the Republican special session, the religious development group Jubilee USA sent a letter from its executive director stating, "We believe legislation has made positive, forward progress on key elements and, while not perfect, we believe there are several improvements that will provide consensus for bill passage."
In his letter to Congress, Jubilee USA's Eric LeCompte urges changes to the bill to protect Puerto Rico from debt litigation, improve budget transparency, give Puerto Ricans a greater voice in the proposed oversight board and set clear targets for reducing child poverty in Puerto Rico.
"Any solutions Congress moves forward should promote budget transparency, reduce child poverty and ensure strong provisions to restructure the debt," wrote LeCompte. "There can be no economic growth until the debt is brought back to sustainable and payable levels."
The letter calls on Congress to use the proposed oversight board to reduce child poverty in Puerto Rico. More than half of Puerto Rico's children live in homes that receive government assistance and 80% live in high-poverty areas. Puerto Rico is cutting services for education, health care and law enforcement to pay its debt.
"An oversight board must make specific recommendations to the government of Puerto Rico and set obtainable goals that would lower the number of children living in poverty," wrote LeCompte.
Read Jubilee USA's letter to Congress on HR 4900, the Puerto Rico Oversight, Management and Economic Stability Act: http://jubileeusa.org/fileadmin/Jubilee_USA_letter_on_PROMESA.pdf
Jubilee USA Network is an alliance of more than 75 US organizations and 550 faith communities working with 50 Jubilee global partners. Jubilee USA builds an economy that serves, protects and promotes the participation of the most vulnerable. Jubilee USA has won critical global financial reforms and more than $130 billion in debt relief to benefit the world's poorest people. www.jubileeusa.org
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Located at 1000 Lake Cook Road, Glencoe, Illinois, USA, the Chicago Botanic Garden is a 385-acre (156 ha) living plant museum situated on nine islands featuring 23 display gardens surrounded by lakes, as well as a prairie and woodlands. The Garden is open every day of the year, except December 25th. Admission is free.
The Chicago Botanic Garden is owned by the Forest Preserve District of Cook County and managed by the Chicago Horticultural Society. It opened to the public in 1972 and is home to the Joseph Regenstein, Jr. School of the Chicago Botanic Garden, offering a classes in plant science, landscape design and gardening arts. The Center for Teaching and Learning brings information on nature and plants to children, teens and teachers. Horticultural Therapy and Community Gardening provide community outreach and service programs. Through the Institutes of Plant Conservation and Ornamental Plant Research, Garden scientists work on plant conservation, research and environmental initiatives.
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PHISH, SUNDAY 08/09/2015
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATREALPINE VALLEY
East Troy, WI
SET 1: The Very Long Fuse, Colonel Forbin's Ascent > Fly Famous Mockingbird, Brian and Robert, Saw It Again, Esther, Weigh, The Sloth, Sanity > Split Open and Melt
SET 2: Run Like an Antelope > Carini > Waves -> Tweezer > Dirt > Mike's Song > Blaze On > Weekapaug Groove > Tweezer Reprise
ENCORE: Contact, Frankenstein[1]
[1] Page on keytar.
Mockingbird featured narration about Trey walking around Alpine Valley and having a bird shit on him, inspiring him to play the song that night. He also acknowledged that this was the band's 17th show at Alpine and that the following day would be the 19th anniversary of their first appearance (August 10, 1996). The Very Long Fuse was quoted in Sanity. Frankenstein featuured Page on keytar.
Overall: 4.562/5 (585 ratings)
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Junta 3
The Man Who Stepped into Yesterday 3
A Picture of Nectar 2
Lawn Boy 2
Big Boat 1
Round Room 1
Farmhouse 1
The Story of the Ghost 1
Stash 1
The White Tape 1
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2015-08-10 9:53 am , attached to 2015-08-09
Review by n00b100
Some scattered thoughts:
1. Good to see a third CTSOTHH song in the rotation. I'd assumed that the introduction of several new songs meant they'd fall by the wayside, and I'm happy that they're still enthusiastic about playing them (and that crowds are still enthusiastic about hearing them.)
2. Hard to beat Forbin's > Mockingbird for the "huge explosion", am I right? Also hard to beat Trey giving us a legit narration, too (although the heartfelt mini-narration at 12/31/13 II is still a heart-tugging moment).
3. My take on this Set 1: sure, I'd probably prefer jamming in a Set 1 over a bunch of bustouts, too, and it's not like I go back and listen to Summer 2012 first sets very often, but the fact that something like *this* - where the *average* song gap runs in the forties - happens so infrequently (the last such was probably 7/29/03) deserves some extra consideration. And when everything is played this well (or, at least, sans egregious botches), that makes for a very pleasant listening experience. Nice Melt at the end, too.
4. Standard or not, a set that kicks off with Antelope is always going to get extra points from me.
5. That should probably be Carini -> Waves, as it felt like Trey was angling towards Waves about 2-3 minutes before actually going into it (one wonders what the equipment problems someone was mentioning had anything to do with it), and the resulting Waves is both tightly played and dissolves into an ambient stew that somehow, insanely, shapes itself into the *third* -> Tweezer of the tour.
6. And that Tweezer ends up the highlight of the night, and the third big-time Tweezer from August 2015 (not a bad month for Phish's Dark Star - tm @waxbanks), with Trey letting his MuTron take the regular Tweezer jam to some spacey and psychedelic places before Page takes things in a more upbeat direction and the band bursts into an *absolutely goddamn gigantic* blissful hose jam that soars through the clouds (and touches on Dear Prudence and Stuck Inside of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again, as @pzerbo noted in his recap). Damn good stuff, sir.
7. Still not 100% convinced the 2nd Mike's jam is back to stay, which means that it continues to remain thrilling when a jam DOES emerge from Mike's once again, this time funky and dirty whereas the Nashville version was beautiful. Probably a -> into Blaze On, as well, but what do I know.
8. We're now 13 shows into Summer 2015, and it really feels like this one might be one we'll be wagging our tongues about 20 years after. Seek this bad boy out - you'll find that it scratches a *lot* of your Phish fan itches.
Review by Fikus
Not a review, per se, but something that speaks to the overall experience:
The Forbin's -> Mockingbird was great, but what was really amazing was the fact that a vast majority of the crowd was singing along, familiar with every note and aware of what a huge bust out this was. For event staff that didn't know anything about Phish, the crowd's reaction and participation must have made it seem like this song was super common and not a rarity since as far back as 1995. The collective memory and communal knowledge of the Phish fanbase is so incredible and indicative of these shows being much more than just a rock concert.
Thanks to everyone for an amazing two nights.
2015-08-10 12:58 pm , attached to 2015-08-09
Review by parallellives99
This is about my 20th Phish show and I must say even though that's not a lot compared to other vets out there, this set 1 was by far the best I've ever heard and the show on the whole was quite an experience.
The Forbin>Mockingbird was incredible with the hilarious narration from Trey about a bird shitting on him earlier that day. Brian and Robert was actually quite a nice surprise and one of the best versions of this Ive heard in a few tours. But for me, the big bust out was Esther. Great to hear them dust off a rare tune like this an execute it well. Then came Sanity. I thought I would never hear this song live and never really even thought it would be an option. Im not sure if it was the feeling that I knew this was a special set when it was happening and that set 1 had been so nice already, but Sanity was perfect and the SOAM was a great closer for an already perfect set 1.
Set 2 was a bit deeper with a rare Antelope opener to set the tone. Tweezer was a great surprise, worth a listen, great transition. Contact blew me away and Frankenstein (with Page's key tar) was a perfect closer. Shows like this are the reason I see this band.
2015-08-10 7:00 pm , attached to 2015-08-09
Review by MailOrderTicketStub
Let me start with the the set list kind of says it all about this show. It was a special one indeed. I for one was tickled with Trey talking about their history at Alpine Valley being that my history with this band started there in 1998. Being that the show I saw in 98 was loaded with debuts and a special one 17 years ago, I was thrilled to hear Trey speak about their 17 shows over 19 years at this venue.
I'll rewind just a little before the how. I was in the yellow lot standing with my friend Willis (who saw his first show with me 15 years ago at Alpine 2000). A couple of golf carts rolled past us and only when a few people cheered and I looked up did I realize MIKE was driving right past us. He waved and the fans politely waved and cheers (none of them rushed toward the cart). Will and I kind of looked at each other and mutually agreed this was a great omen for today's show.
One more note before I get into the meat of my review. I haven't reviewed yesterday's show, but it was not outstanding by any means. It actually was probably one of my least favorite spanning 17 years. It was another reason I had some suspicion our boys from Vermont were up to something pretty special for their Sunday show.
The show opened in surprising fashion for me with "The Very Long Fuse," which I had never heard live before. It was evidently a song from the Halloween show in Vegas. They pulled this one off with a lot of personality and it seemed to hint that there was indeed a fuse being lit with that song to start the set.
Colonel Forbin's and Mockingbird - Who can complain ever about two Gamehendge songs that were executed well and with vigor! The crowd was certainly pumped to get this tour breakouts and their pleasure was certainly being heard!
I'm also a person who loves it when Trey does talk without shutting up, so again I was thrilled to hear his bird shit story and loved how he even tied the second shitter on the grassy knoll bit in (reference to JFK).
The band cooled the audience down a little with Brian and Robert and from what I've read that too was another tour debut! I for one really do like this song and it's lyrics in particular. I wouldn't say that they blew this rendition out of the water, but it is a rare song to catch and made me think about the very first time I heard this song played (Alpine 98) - they played it in the second set and it had stronger emotion to it largely because it was a little more heartfelt, the later in the second set placement of this song also prompted the lighters in the dark for it many years ago. I think the fact that Story of the Ghost just coming out probably made that performance of it a little more gripping 17 years ago. Nonetheless, the placement of this song right after Mockingbird worked well. Just not as powerful as the first time I heard this one. Again, not complaining, just noting the differences in the two times I heard this gem played (both at Alpine).
Now if all of that wasn't enough for phan... The next song... OH MAN!!! ESTHER. Now, the reason I talk a lot about my first time in 98 just correlates to Trey talking about Alpine over 19 years and this song just took me back to that time when I was a younger man myself first finding myself falling in love with this band.
They played this in 1998 too at Alpine and I want to say many years passed since they had played it there. I know it popped out some years later (maybe 2009?). I know it rarely played and had not been for several years after that 98 show. I know it popped up a few times more recently... Regardless, this song is also a rare rare rare gem to get.
Saw it Again was simply rocking with energy. I think this is where the band was saying, "In case you weren't sure if this set was special, this should pretty much let you know... IT'S SPECIAL. Loved the energy Trey and Mike showed here. Trey really started moving around the stage with that extra dialed in groove and body language. They even did some classic back to back hammering of their guitars like rock star music video style. You could just tell the band was dialed in with that special vibe tonight. That vibe where the spirit of what Phish is when it is at it's most inspired and best. This isn't just the clean technical playing of songs (they did that in night one of Alpine). This was that extra emotion and life and timing they have when they are dialed in. You really see that just pouring out of their instruments and in their body language. They connected with the audience and you just knew you had something amazing going on at that Midwest shed!
Esther just made the set of breakouts super special to me! Both times I heard this one again at Alpine. The first time I heard it they had a much more circus show intro with Page playing keys (even though he totally botched the intro back then)... I must say that I liked the over the top steam colliope / organ sound they opened with back then.
In this 2015 Alpine version they backed off being as over the top with that circus intro and did a more tame version of it which Page did not botch this time! The band played this one very well! I was impressed with how well they played a shelved song with the complexity of Esther (both vocally and musically). It was very clean and very true to Junta in it's vibe.
Weigh had some particular zest and spring in it's step tonight too! I always like when Mike is in one of his more animated moods and the Cactus sure was tonight. Always appreciate the zany nature of this song and what he does for it.
Sloth and Sanity???!!!!????!!!! WHAT??? IS THIS SET REALLY HAPPENING? I didn't eat any acid, I'm not that high, I'm pretty sure I gave my chocolates to other people. What? I'm really hearing this??? I'm sure I'm not tripping too hard... Yeah... Yeah, wow... This is happening... Yeah, it's really happening... OH MAN THIS SET IS REALLY REAL!!! (sorry that was my brain talking during the set)
Seriously??? All of that to open a set? Sloth among several of the other rare songs (this tour and overall) was one I didn't think I was going to see any time soon and certainly not in a loaded set like this one. To put Sanity right behind it? Again, my appreciation for this band tonight was just coursing through my veins with the kind of magic I felt at my first show.
Split Open and Melt was just on point! I also want to say this was another tour debut or at least a song they haven't played much recently. While I've heard a few of these and while it isn't as rare as the rest of the set was... I love hearing it when they are on fire. As other people said, there wasn't as much sprawling jams through the set, but there was SOME. It was a tighter and more vertical speed style of playing, but intense, on point, and so energetic. It was like seeing a sports player in the zone. Just such an amazing set.
The band knew they were having a great night and the crowd was reacting in that way it does when they are especially delighted with what they are hearing. This was one set close where the band seemed as happy as the fans did. This is one of set breaks where Trey stopped to peer at the audience extra long. The only other time I saw him do this was at UIC 2011 (Aug 15th Monday show). It was almost as if he knew they just blew everyone away and wanted to stay there a little longer to hear the fans say so and they did. I mean this show and that 2011 show the cheering at the end of the set and that moment the band has when they know they nailed it was there. That too was a powerful exchange between the band and fans. I love it when they know they killed it and kind of stare you down to see your reaction to it. That's love!
Run Like and Antelope to open a set is always fun and get the crowd moving! I enjoyed how well played this version was. It really was sharp and they didn't jam it out for a long run, but it was enough to start moving the crowd and getting them ready for what was an intense second set.
Carini just has this dark metal tone to it. Tonight they just thrashed this version of it. I mean this was one of the more rocking versions of it vocally. There was just a thrust in the vocal delivery that made the song very energetic even through it's heavy / dark sound. This was my favorite version of Carini to date.
Waves - who can complain about that? Not me! I don't care how much people think Tweezer is overplayed. I loved this one. Why? Okay... Let me get into why...
The band smashed Carini, let you cool off with a great and short version of Waves and went into a place after that headed into Tweezer. I mean the band was on FIRE in set one, but when they are playing very well for a duration...
They have certain nights where they really get better and better as the show progresses. I mean to say they get more and more locked into each other and just play with a sound that makes your ears hit this frequency where the instruments blend perfectly.
ALSO - Let me take a minute to say CK5 - YOU NAILED THE WHOLE SECOND SET. This night, the band was locked in, but Kuroda was locked in with them. On Tweezer, the lights, the sound mixer, the band, the way it all played just was perfect. Everything was tuned perfectly to where your ears almost start to vibrate with appreciation for the audio ecstasy (the only way I can describe it) that blend creates when it's all working together. I can't stress how Kuroda was locked in too. I mean all the new quirks with his lights and the number of them were working in time exactly with the band. He was on fire in the second set. Doing all the new things (which seem more and more complicated these days) but doing them in a way where there was a lot of different effects and all of them from big to small were in lockstep with the band. Hats off to you CK5 because you slayed it with the band.
Another note is the sound mixing was just better tonight. I'm not sure how other people felt about night one, but something just didn't sound right with the levels and mixing in the sound. Tonight it was perfect.
They blew the lid of this Tweezer. I mean every part of it was just working, blended, flowing, and a visual spectacle with powerful sound and light.
Dirt - Again used to cool down the audience. Dirt really relies on Trey's vocals and he nailed this one tonight. Sometimes Dirt isn't sung with the heartfelt tone it has in the studio release for instance. Tonight Trey did sing this from the heart and it translated well. Plus, the whistling was spot on. Sometimes this song has such sharp and almost hauntingly pretty whistling and when the band nails that part it is a special song to behold. They totally got that too.
Mike's Song - They just absolutely stayed in that blended zone through this and I also want to say Mike was just killing his bass especially in the second set.
Blaze On - I love a Trey / Marshall song. The lyrics when it's Trey / Tom Marshall always are easy to pick out and this new song is no exception. I think that they have had a few times to play this newer song and they really may have given their best version of it to date at this show. I've heard it through the tour shows I listened to this summer and it sounded like a wonderful song with a lot of potential to really pop and I think they got all of it working tonight. They seemed to have really rounded the corners on this tune out well. I love the lyrics to it. In particular that they bring up Chemtrails. Excited to hear what the future versions of this tune will be like. I loved where they went with today's.
Weekapaug Grove again was a song I was treated to in 1998. I used to say that Weekapaug Groove after that version seemed a little slower in pace and just lacking that explosiveness I heard in 1998. I never liked any version more than that first one I heard and if you go back and listen you'll know what I mean. There was a different pace and energy to that song back then. Compare tonight's with 98 and then compare any other Weekapaugs after 98 and you'll hear what I mean. This was a killer, high energy, and just amazing rendition that rivals the best versions of this song even from 1.0. Seriously, get this version, get their 98 Alpine version, get a couple more from before 98. Play those against anything you heard in 2.0 or later and you'll see what I mean. This was a return to the groove for sure.
Tweeprise - Again, the band just created that perfect give and go with this song and Kuroda was fire all through set two. Likewise, was fond of Tweezer Tweprise tonight because it was really making me think back to my first time here in 98 as this too was played in that show.
Contact!!!!! My first one ever and in an encore! Again, another pretty rare one. DOUBLE ENCORE with Frankenstein! Again, to bring up that 98 show they played Frankenstein late in the second set and here they were encoring with it in a double encore (they double encored in 98 too).
This version of Frankenstein shredded!!! I've seen them encore with monster sized instruments all around at Alpine in previous years (2.0). This time Page came out with a giant Keytar!
Page tore this encore up with Trey and they were really hamming it up to close the show. I love Frankenstein to close a show. This one was pretty classic in how Page, Trey, and Mike stood together at an angle playing this last song out.
The band took a well deserved ovation from the audience and I've only heard this kind crazy appreciation in their UIC show run in 2011.
This Alpine show, their history there, what Trey had to say about it, it being my first place where I saw a pretty epic show to start my journey with this band made everything about tonight extra special for me.
Sometimes I wondered if I'd ever have that special feeling of seeing my first show at Alpine again. Wondered if they'd ever play like I had seen them play in 98 - 99... In 09 I started to think they were making a comeback to that place. You could see it coming together in 2013 and 2014... Though tonight left me feeling like this band is every bit as special as it was 17 years ago to the month for me.
They evolved in healthy ways. I guess I've had my ups and downs in life too. They always reminded me you really can start over and you really can put it back together. That inspired me in my darker years... Watching them climb out of a tough spot and put it all back together. In some ways I kind of did the same with my life.
I guess that's why I get chocked up when I hear Trey sing
"and then one day you find to your intense delight
that three wrong turns can really make a right
so why not be like me? be proud of all your crimes
‘cause when I screw up once, I do it two more times"
Yeah... He gets it doesn't he?
Review by DARKH0LL0W
any time you see a sloth you saw a good show
any time you see weigh you saw a good show
any time you see a contact you saw a good show
When you see sanity you know you are at a great show
any time you see a Esther you experienced something special
any time you see treys finger work on a Mockingbird. well i didn't know,
because i have been waiting 22 years to to find out. all i can say is wow.
For some, its all about the jams, witch phish brings every night. but after my 57th show, it is a unforgettable experience to walk out after seeing the songs they played tonight.
tweezer is excellent and different. Great versions of soam, mikes, weekapaug, and Brian and Robert
I saw it again, is the shit!
The dirt was for Jerry! and was awesome. mike had a nice solo.
witch brings me to the encore
contact was beautiful and had a nice funk jam in it
And this is a perfect Frankenstein. Page on fire!
Review by icecreammang
I'm compelled to weigh on this first set. While I didn't attend, I've listened through twice.
How can anybody have anything remotely negative to say? Rare songs, played well. By most accounts, they're playing quite well this tour, so when you see this (first) set list, and you've been listening to the tour, it's exactly as good as you'd think it would be. It will put a smile on your face.
Let's face it, as much as we all dig the mind bending kick ass jams, they've got a deep catalog of interesting songs stretching back 20+ years, and that's as much a part of what makes them them as the jamming.
If you're chasing first sets that are shredding segue-fests chock full of Type II jamming, well, manage yer expectations or build a time machine ;-)
Review by lostajibboo
I feel sad for the phans who only get to hear this show on stream. News reports said only 14K+ were in attendance. I'm sad for any phan within driving distance to Alpine who talked themselves out of attending. I'm confident they intentionally brought a brain-melting setlist to punish those who didn't want to buy or trade for a ticket.
I won't pretend to be some super-Phish expert, as I've only been to 20+ shows. But my attendance is spread over the course of 15 years, and I know the difference between a "phone-it-in" show & a "we-have-something-to-prove" show.
8/9/15 doesn't just fall in the latter ... it's arguably the best show I've ever seen and any phan within driving distance should be kicking themselves for not making the trip.
Just look at the setlist, dudes! 21 songs, and 18 of them debuted prior to 2000. I know the rule ... Never miss a Sunday show. This show was proof.
To any phans who complain the band shouldn't load a setlist with so many rarities, I can't help but ask ... where were you, then? Only 14K showed up, you weren't one of them. Don't you think that was kind of their point? Alpine Valley is one of the most iconic venues in the band's history. They do a Sat-Sun run there, and the place is half-empty? You have no ground to stand on, critics. Save for those who had true priorities greater than getting in the car and heading to East Troy, the rest of you can shut yo traps!
This setlist was epic and a reward for those who showed up. And the band's energy and commitment to excellence on this night can't be conveyed by words nor the LivePhish recording. You had to be in the room to get it. The energy was beyond anything I've seen at a show since Monday night UIC in Summer '11, and it was one of (if not the) most energized crowds I've been part of in any concert I've ever attended.
When they'd strike the first chords of the next song, and you just start cackling with delight, you know you're in for a good night.
21 songs. 21 cackles.
I feel sad for any phan who could've gone, but thought otherwise. You missed a real gem and I hope you've learned your lesson.
Also ... when we were in the lot before the show, a golf cart zipped past us. It was the Cactus himself. He says hey.
Review by bouncin7
To hear Sanity > Split Open & Melt at my 65th Phish show tells me a lot about my last 25 years. I don't review shows often on here and avoid reviewing unless I was actually at the show like last night section 202 row TT right in front of the SBD. The entire show brought me higher and higher with every song and I may or may never find out what was in my friend's beer that he handed to me while saying "it's warm but good." For a few minutes during set one, I was officially tweeeeked by a merry prankster with my mouth going OMG. They sound checked Col Forbin>Mockingbird and Weigh, so neither of those surprised me, but such a great treat to hear both. But it was the "S" songs that popped my boner set one Saw It Again (screaaaaming version WOW) Sloth (always so great) and then the Sanity complete with even screaming haunted house SFX from Page and a standard perfect SOAM.
SET II: Carini Waves Tweezer. It's the best three-songs in a row I've heard LIVE since DICKS last year and year before. Some truly special moments during all three songs. I punched my brother over and over drooling with excitement and everyone in our row had their shirt off this band was putting out DA HEAT. Trey HEAT! To say Trey is "ON" right now is an understatement. Phish / Trey are 5 times reborn a new band in many ways new energy, new dancing on stage the most fun in many years (2011 - 2015 PHISH).....it will go down in history as far more than a 3.0 or 4.0 number. Words can't describe what is going on. The jams are incredible delicious FUN, exciting and liberating. LIFE! Phish = IT "If we could see these many waves
That flow through clouds and sunken caves
She'd sense at least the words that sought her
On the wind and underwater"
Review by doctorron
This was my 141st show, and while that's nothing compared to many, I have been lucky enough to catch some good ones. The Gamehendge in WA. The Game Hoist in WVa (that entire summer BTW, and man were they on fire!) Lemonwheel. It. Oswego. Big Cypress. Dayton 97. Camden 99, every show at UIC and the Horizon (I REFUSE to call my hometown venue the "Allstate Arena"). Des Moines 1994, on my birthday, when they let us out during setbreak to party in the park across the street! Four straight nights at Red Rocks. Ames IA during the ice storm even! So hopefully I've established some cred here.
Since I've become an old guy and a dad, my Phishtivities have had to take a back seat. I still see them when they come to Chicago or to within a few hundred miles though.
One day last winter, I was taking the train into work and I saw that presale was happening. I ordered Saturday night right away, or shall I say what I THOUGHT was Saturday night. It turns out that I messed up the dates and I had Sunday tickets.
Now this presented a problem. My bestest friends in the world (a shout out to Tommy and Kath!) were going to come in, and Tom had to work on Monday. Sunday shows were not doable for them. I tried to sell them. I tried to give them away. Nope--Tom and Kath came in for FTW and not Phish and I refused to go to those shows (mostly because Shapiro is a money-grubbing POS, but I digress). Rather, I refused to PAY to go to those shows--and I'm glad that I did. I made my choice for the Boys over FTW on my limited funds. Maaan...I would have quite possibly shot myself had I not done that. ; ')
I'm not going to go song by song, I'm just gonna say this: we brought my son Hunter. He's almost three and this was his first show (not in the womb). HE LOVED IT! Guess what though? Daddy loved it far more.
This was the best Phish show that I have seen in 20 years easily. It was all there: the tunes, the energy, the sound, CK5--ALL of it synched up. I was stone sober too (a rarity for shows before Coventry, hehe) and am SO glad that I was. Yes, the lawn sucked, but not badly. The monitors sucked too (it's been about 15 years since AV has put bulbs in those). But that was it. In my opinion, it was as close to the perfect Phish show that they could play (for me at least) without, say, hearing an "oom pa pa" at the beginning!
Thank you so much, guys, for putting your absolute BEST feet forward for Hunter's first show of many, many more. I cannot possibly have asked for better than this. I mean--HOW?
2015-08-24 11:38 am , attached to 2015-08-09
Review by jadedforbin
I've seen every Alpine show since 97 except the 14th in 2010 (mistake, I know...lol) and after many re-listens 2015.08.09 has to be ranked very high among those shows. I...never...saw...this...coming. Not like it did.
"Of course you know what a fuse is..."
It was so, so surprising and out of the blue to finally get that Forbin I've been chasing for 70+ shows. There it was, at the place I NEVER EVER thought I'd see it happen. And then....first narration since 2000. BOOM goes the dynamite of "the very long fuse". Place ERUPTED!! Show could not have started any better unless it began with an oom-pa-pa. LMFAO
I won't describe every single song in detail; you know the list. But Esther Weigh back2back? Then Sanity (also a first for me!!). I Saw It Again with THREE false endings? Only the 5th time Antelope has ever opened Set II? This was without a doubt an epic all time show at Alpine.
Don't be fooled by the Carini>Waves ripchord (WHY, Trey?), this Set II is elite. Don't be fooled by Tweezer's lack of length, because the only version this summer that honestly surpasses it is Atlanta IMHO and yes, I have listened to every other version more than twice.
No need to go longer than that here. This is one of the best shows of the best tour since god knows when. So grateful I made it to this one. The end.
Review by phearlessphreaks
Rarely do I rate a show I did not attend. I've heard a lot of shows, way more than I've been to. Just for context, my first-hand experiences are largely 3.0, although I made it to a few 2.0 shows. When I listen to a show it's almost entirely 93-98. From that time period, I've heard almost every show at least once.
This first set is one of the best first sets I have ever heard. Hands down. Yeah, sure it's a bit of a gimmick set - all bust outs, tour debuts, etc. So it's not really real right? Wrong!!! They went out and played a set of songs nobody in their right mind would have ever dreamed they'd play. And on top of that, they slayed the shhh out of it.
A Forbin bomb, extended Saw It Again, Halloween sound effects in Sanity, and a dark SOAM to close. This is nutso.
Review by raidcehlalred
Set I clearly rests within that category of You Had to Be There. Like two nights before, the fun and energy simply do not translate well to tape. Very cool to see more 10/31 - I still want a Cat - and if preparation for this performance, much like 10/31/96, will usher in a new era of Phish. This work, coupled with Fare Thee Well prep (PLUS the band's other solo projects: just waiting on a Tornado number) points to the inevitability we've seen play out to this point.
Fuse does more than simply launch Forbin (although there is that); it's a cool tune, which features cool guitar which reminds me, right or wrong, of _Surrender to the Air_.
Forbin's pretty arena-rocking, and you've heard (or read) the narration. The Bird is great; no problems other than that which you hear in a Rift or Ice. Pretty impressive, really, considering.
The rest has been discussed....
Cool Lope. In the moment you're hoping for more of an excursion.... the way it's played (I love CMAC's FuegoLope) is so musical, that the possibility of an extended version was thrilling. Wasn't meant to be, but that's okay: I could listen to Waves all day. And Trey is playing so well, he's going after so many more notes, that it sounded a bit like '03; not that it should - 15 is just fine.
The segue into Tweezer is one of my favorite Phish moments period, as one: it was a true surprise, have just caught one, and two: it's really, really cool.
The Tweezer itself is one of my favorite jams of recent vintage. (And time will tell; it may remain one of my favorites ever.) If you've never listened to Eureka 92, track it down; it's on the SS. The two are very similar. The playing is slow and melodic and thoughtful and interesting and enchanting. It's one of those (extended) moments where the band members occupy different spaces, pinging sounds one off another to create a lunar soundscape that Kubrick himself would have 'aped.'
By now you know how the rest plays out.
I remain enthusiastic about the thought put into encores.
And have no fear, festival-goers. This entire tour is spelling something. Those of you lucky enough to attend either, or both, will get the likes of Foam; an ambient 2001 with a Mutron breakdown; a crazy Scents and Subtle Sounds; Tela; Sky Train Wand; who knows....
Review by moonmoog
Dear Community,
Wow what Great show!! If I may focus on Col Forbin's Ascent> Fly Famous Mockingbird for sec...
This is one off the best Phish songs EVER!! To personally hear so much criticism of this particular performance may not be surprising, but said critics miss the point. To quote Trey, "IT's all about energy." This is one of the greatest versions of the famous pairing, and if a new fan were hearing this 8/9/15 version as their 'first' CFA>FFM, having never heard of the tune before, I am sure they will be just as blown away by it as any fan was who got their 'first' on 12/1/95!! Hearing one of the greatest guitar players in recent memory talk about how beautiful it is experience music, people, healthy living (Go Trey!!), life, and -of course- #birdshit , is a testament to the spirit of humility, humor, sharing and love that IS Phish. Thank you thank you thank you SOO much Trey, Page, Mike, and Jon for continuing to inspire us all!
P.S. Nice JFK reference Trey! Maybe we will hear the whole story on Nov 22, 2015 :p
Review by lizzzards
Ten days after graduating high school, my friends and I set out to see if the live performances could stand up to the Fire on the Mountain from Dead Set that had been melting our ears since that drive around the block in Hopkins Minnesota in '83. Although we did not get our Fire at GD Alpine 85, we fell in love with a band which changed many of our live for ever. Beyond, we fell in love with a venue which did the same. In 1990, Phish visited the Cabooze in Minneapolis and, as time went on, I understood that I had two bands which were my favorites for similar and different reasons. These shows marked the 30th year I have scanned the calendar for a reason to make the 300 mile trek to Alpine.
I was amazed night one with the forty-somethings I encountered and the level to which my wife and I felt we could relate to these people. We sat both nights by some guys who were neighborhood friends from upstate NY and these guys turned our "this is a great time" into "this is a really great time"
The first set of this show was an absolute all timer in my song selection book. Although upset that I had narrowly missed Alpine-common Lizards and Bug, the latter of which is quite-profound favorite to my little Earthling pea brain, I was blown away at the throw down of the entire first set. Although I have seen my fair share of Famous Mockingbirds, usually accompanied by Tela, jewel of Wilson's foul domain, the Forbin's Accent was one of 2(?) in my history. My first Saw it Again blew me away and would have been the cherry on my Sunday if not for the Sanity which I have not chased from my head twelve days after it took place. AS IF that was not enough, they played the most enjoyable Split I believe I have ever seen. When the first set ended, my wife, amazed at the length and girth of the set asked " is that it or our they going to play another set?"
The second set could not soar to the heights of the mountains we had summited in set 1. If it had, we would be talking all-time greatness. Still a great, great, great show with sooo much to look back on. The 30th anniversary of that fateful summer for me did not disappoint, it inspired. I'll be back to Alpine in 2045 to see what the wood ceiling has yet to reveil. Hope to see you there.
Review by guelah_warfare
I was ruling over the pit on Page Side for this one. This show was a real heater.
Set 1:
The crowd always goes nuts when the narrator from CTSooHH comes over the PA, and tonight was no difference. While "Fuse" was short, it was a great change of pace from the others they have in rotation. Great way to start the show. The rest of the set ripped from beginning to end with great bustouts and a great energy peak with "Sloth." A nice "Sanity" provided a move into a particularly juicy "Melt" to end the set. Best first set of the tour, by far. I haven't had this much fun for a first set . . well, maybe ever.
"Antelope" to open the set???? Hell yes. The band did a great job keeping the energy flowing throughout the show, even during slower numbers like, "Dirt." "Tweezer," "Carini," and "Mike's" highlight this memorable set. Phish ripped up the whole place en route to something very unexpected . . . a killer encore.
Encore: Just listen to it. Incredible. No "Character Zero" in sight (though I love that song).
Review by Speen_E
As others mentioned, first set didn't quite have cohesion, but hearing some of those bust outs was eminently worth it; treys sanity delivery was also quite funny to me, you hear him booming and powing at seemingly random intervals. Love it for sanity. SOAM great set closer with a lot of energy. First set overall: each song well executed (awesome mockingbird narration as well) and most very danceable, but the flow wasn't there to surrender to.
Second set was a whole different story. With the jerry stuff/alpine history in mind, my friends and I were calling dancing in the streets as the dead tune to be played, and maybe it was just because I wanted to hear it, but it felt like mike was tickling the powerful opening (particularly reminiscent of 7/5/77) through the whole second set. Ultimately kinda sad that nothing came of it, but holy shit we got a set in return. Carini flowed well and mellowed out, that mikes was incredible (and just what I wanted from mike that night), tweeze was the same, and I've wanted to see dirt forever so I was really happy to see such a quality cut with the whistling. Tweeprise always a great closer.
Encore: as stated, I was really hoping for a dead tune, and I think they caught everyone off guard with contact, though that's probably the weirdest contact I've ever heard (props to the band for expanding their jammable tune list) and the Frankenstein was immense
The tour of jamming unjammed songs. The weekend of classic phish. The night of vintage. In my opinion.
I also recognize 5/5 is high, but this show deserves way more than 4/5
Review by CHelton03
I walked into this weekend of shows telling my friends "I hope I get a Brian and Robert." I know that song isn't a great show song, but it means a lot to me. Little did I know what was ahead of me as I walked into Alpine Valley the night of what was my second show...
First off was the Very Long Fuse, and I hadn't heard it, but it was a cool jam. It set a neat tone that everybody had no problem dancing along. And then that chord. The intro to Col. Forbin. The audience lost it. I knew it was something special happening, but I didn't know what. Forbin crossed over to Mockingbird, with a flub or two (who cares?), and Trey's narration about the shitting bird. Funny story. It winds down...and then I hear it. "Doot doot doo, doot doot doo..." Brian and Robert. I got choked up and everyone I was with started patting me on the back. One of the guys said I must be good luck since I got the B&R, plus the Forbin/Mockingbird rarity bust out. Anyway, Saw It Again is another tune that folks love or hate, and I am in the former category. Esther, Weigh, the Sloth, and Sanity were all solid performances (remember, this is written 3 years later...) and set up a nice platform for a fun Split Open and Melt. The last notes of that tune rang out, and the lights came up for set break, I knew I had just seen something. Not sure what it was at the time. But it was something.
Set two was deep funky jam city. Antelope picked up where SOAM left off. Carini took things deep underwater, while Waves had everyone pop up for air. Tweezer was...Tweezer, amazing and massive. It set things up for the nice cool down that was Dirt, another of the "some like it, some don't" songs that I love. Often times those songs (Or the Jerry ballads for ye Dead Heads) popped up in sets at inopportune times. The tunes played on this night did not. Then we got Mike's. Mike's one had use grooving. On the ride up to East Troy, my buddy and I talked about the long history of first and second Mike's, and how it had been absent for a long time, but had come out. We wondered if we got a Mike's, would we get a second jam? Boy, were we rewarded. Massive and tasty. It settles down into a nice second line for Blaze On. Blaze slowed things down for a nice breather before a ripper of a Weekapaug, and then a tasty Tweeprise to cap off the set. Wow.
Contact was fun. Frankenstein was the end of the show.
All in all, I don't know that in 3.0 I could have gotten a better first and second show. I'll never have the opportunity to see some of the amazing shows of 1.0 or 2.0: I am a 3.0 Phish fan in terms of live shows. But I am glad I have had the opportunity to see this band perform, because as we all know, things might have been different. So thank you Trey, Page, Mike, and Fish for making my "opening" Phish weekend a stellar success. Here's to many more shows!
Review by MiguelSanchez
The previous night was solid, but I don't think it blew anyone away. Going into this show, people were expecting fireworks. Being the 20 year anniversary of Jerry Garcia's death, many wondered if they would pay tribute with a GD song. While that did not come to fruition, I can't imagine anyone left this show feeling like they had not seen a top shelf outing.
The Very Long Fuse: This was one song from the Halloween set that I was not completely in love with. On this night, it worked much better for me. Trey had great command over it, and now, I have no doubt it can serve as either a great opener or a great set up song for years to come. On this night, it served as both. As the explosion at the end faded away, they cranked up...
Colonel Forbin's->Fly Famous Mockingbird: This Forbin's seemed to have a bit more of a raunchy/rocking edge than normal. There was a great narration about Trey getting shit on walking through the lawn. I won't do a play by play on this. Just give it a listen. Mockingbird soared. This has been one of the more difficult songs for Trey to nail as of late, but he did a fine job on this take.
Brian and Robert: This isn't one of my favorites, but it's rarely played anymore. Plus, it fit well in this spot giving us a quick breather.
Saw It Again: Right around now, I started to notice a theme. I asked my buddy "Any of these songs played this tour?" As for this "Saw It Again," they really put the heat on this version. The main portion of the song is strong, as it has been the last few years, but the start-stop ending they did got this crowd all gassed up.
Esther: This is one bustout I really don't care about. Esther has never done much for me, but I'm happy for the folks that were seeing it for the first time that had been chasing it. As for the song, there seemed to be a few minor flubs, but all in all, it was a nice breezy version.
Weigh: Another nice score, but guys, could you please not woo my weigh next time?
Sloth: I was fired up for this one. I had not seen it since '03. This may have been the most flub filled tune from this bustout set, but I'm going to chalk it off as it's the thought that counts. When you play a whole set of songs you hadn't played all tour and your songs are as complex as Phish's, you're going to fuck a song or two up. Oh well.
Sanity: Outside of featuring some cool samples/sounds from the Haunted House, Sanity was Sanity. In a set like this, there is only one song that can follow Sanity.
SOA Melt: This was a biggie on my wish list going into the summer, and this was the perfect spot to get it. The jam doesn't go as far out there as some of the "big versions," but Trey has some nice dark playing with some strong psychedelic leanings. They have had issues bringing this Melt from the jam back to the song proper the last few years, but they did not have that issue on this night. Nailed it.
After a set like that, anticipation ran high for this second set. You could feel the buzz in the air. It wasn't a question of whether they would come out strong. It was just a matter of how strong.
Antelope: Well, I don't know that anyone called this here. Like most 3.0 versions, there wasn't much of an excursion here. It was a straight shot from point A to point B, but it still served as a fantastic and surprising set opener.
Carini: The energy was already high, and Carini shot it through the roof. Sometimes at a Phish show, it is hard to not let expectations take over, and this is one of those times. After that first set and the surprise opener, many felt this was going to be a BIG Carini. It wasn't a bad Carini. I'd just call it standard, so to some, it fell flat. After traveling a few dark passages, Trey worked it into...
Waves: The Carini->Waves pairing has become a bit of a sign that a set is going to be a little plain. I think a lot of people started to think they may take their foot off the gas. As this jam progressed, it seemed to not be picking up any steam. Then Trey turns to his new summer toy, the Mutron Pedal. I prefer to call it the "Disco Jerry Effect." He sunk into a nice funky groove and started to work into something familiar. I knew it was coming but it couldn't be. They just played it 2 nights before. Surely, they are not about to drop into...
TWEEZER: Nothing in the world gets me rowdier than tweezer, and when you do a full Disco Jerry drop into it, well, we were going crazy in my row. After streaming the great version from Blossom before leaving for Alpine and attending the Lakewood shows the weekend before, I could not wait to see what they had in store for us on this night.
They lay down a space funk groove and just work it over. They weave through delicate passages and mini funk peaks with ease. I'm not going to get into what Tweezer from summer 2015 is the best, but I'll say this is up there.
Dirt: Another rare score serves as a great landing pad for this fantastic Tweezer. Good version.
Mike's: After Nashville, everyone had the same question. Would they do it again? As they close down the main jam, they bring it right back up. Instantly, glow sticks flew and we all hit party mode. Instead of the more mellow/melodic jam they did in Nashville, they threw down a full on dance party. The pavillion was bedlam. I'd been waiting to see a Mike's like this again since Cincy '03. Page laid down a clav-laden foundation and trey shredded over the top of him. They ripped it all the way through the woo'ed up start-stop jam. They just left one more question up in the air. Is this the new norm or were we just very lucky?
Blaze On: This was sort of pushed into the slot between Mike's and Weekapaug. It's a good new song, but this prevented this Mike's Groove from reaching the heights of the Nashville one earlier in the summer. Either way, there were no complaints after Mike's.
Weekapaug: This was pretty straight forward, but it served as a solid closer.
We were about to start for the lawn but then we saw the keytar being pulled out. Yeah, we were going to need to stay put for a minute.
Contact: This is always a fun encore and it sends you out with a smile on your face, if you didn't have one already.
Frankenstein: Boy, I sure am a sucker for this one. Typically great version.
This show gives you a little bit everything. There's a great set list, great flow, and a few serious jams. I really can't see how anyone can gripe about this show. Personally, I thought it was freaking fantastic. If you want to complain about some flubs in Esther and Sloth, you're a dick.
Fuse, Forbin's->Mockingbird, Melt, Tweezer, and Mike's Song
Review by ragephanbenny
This was the best Phish show Ive ever seen. From the very beginning I knew it would be a classic show. 1st set featured classic bustouts only played once in 2015. Some of my all time favorite jams from this show- the tweezer jam, the epic double jam mikes song, the waves outro jam, and a rocking encore, and the tight snippet-like ending to soam 5* show through and through!
Review by The_Steiner
seems like an auspicious day to write about the last 8/9 show i was at...
i remember feeling as i walked up to the gate at Alpine this sense of heaviness. one month prior were the FTW shows, and the aura of Jerry was still hanging around like a low cloud. that feeling made me KNOW that we were in for a treat.
Set I:
cool to get the next Fuse, waaaay cooler to get my second Forbin>Mockingbird, complete with a "shitty" narration. and right from there, a whole set of tour bustouts. Highlights: Forbin>Movkingbird, Esther, Weigh, Sanity>SOAM
Set II:
antelope set opener!!!!! no messin around tonight!! fantastic jammy-jam of a set, classics that were all played great. if Alpine had a roof, it would have blown off. Highlights: Mike's>Blaze>Weekapaugh
Encore: complete highlight. booming way to close out the night. a heave dose of weird in Contact, and a booming Frankenstein taboot
Review by BoyManIndy
Wow what a show. We know expectations should be avoided going in, but this was my 36th birthday, a Sunday show, and the 20th anniversary of Jerry's passing, so it was hard not to expect something great. After a strong show the night before, we awoke to a cloudy morning, but the sun broke through later that afternoon and we enjoyed a low-key, relaxing time on the lot before the show.
The second-ever Very Long Fuse opened, literally starting things off with a bang. When we heard those familiar opening chords of Col. Forbin, we knew we were in for something special. The narration seems a little silly (with a very corny "second shitter on the grassy knoll" joke) but has lots of meaning when you give it some thought. Trey starts with a joke about not being much of a talker anymore, which seems to me like a tongue-in-cheek reference to refraining from some of the marching powder that may have fueled things in the past. But then the lines of time become much more blurred - the story is supposed to happen "this morning" but there are at least a couple hints that this is really a timeless parable. Most glaring is the "mixtape" - c'mon - it's 2015. There is also mention of the weather and there not being a cloud in the sky that morning. Well, the sky was nothing but clouds until later in the afternoon, so it seems like this story really could have taken place any other morning. And then finally we hear about shifting perspective from what is seen on stage to what is seen on the lawn. Reminded me of the various perspectives seen in cubist art, which is based on the idea of time being an illusion and things being seen from multiple perspectives at one time. Then we get the shitting bird, which could represent Jerry (would be interested in your thoughts on this) and the metaphor could be Trey's way of showing humility and respect for Jerry after taking his place on stage for 3 HUGE shows little more than a month earlier and just a few miles south. Then Trey thanks the mockingbird twice for inspiration. I don't know, but we had a nod to Jerry 3 years later with the 8-9-98 Terrapin Station and I was lucky enough to celebrate my 26th and hear Trey do Ripple on 8-9-05 at White River in Indy, so I don't know how the 20th could go by without some recognition, especially after the FTW shows earlier that summer. Anyway, the seemingly silly speech broke down the illusion of time and really seemed to show the eternal Jerry / Trey connection; maybe Trey is the second shitter?
From there on out, we get a ridiculously sick show. Nothing but bustouts in the first set. I would consider myself a vet but caught several first-timers in this one. And if I'm making a dream setlist, there's no doubt that SOAMelt is closing the first set.
Then there's nothing better to keep the energy going than Antelope to open the second. The Carini and Waves are great, as well. On to Tweezer. Clearly one of the top 3 from Summer 2015, along with 8-1 and 8-22. I would have picked 8-22 as my favorite until really recently, but now have to say 8-9 takes the cake. Just beautiful and is much more subtle than 8-22. The Mike's is great and features the second jam that would have been shocking had it been played just a week earlier. But what I love most is the symmetry between the second song of the first set (Forbin) and the penultimate song of the second; the "climb that hill" in Blaze On was inspirational and so appropriate for the steep lawn at Alpine. After the shout-out to the lawn in Forbin; the Blaze On was a great way to tell us to keep on Truckin'.
And the encore was fun and the icing on [my birthday] cake. This is my pick for best show of an incredible Summer 2015. Only some attendance bias (I also went to Magnaball and Dick's) but maybe birthday bias plays a part. Hope the rest of them are even half this fun.
Review by phrench
The first set, as already widely noted, is very uneven, despite (or because of) several rarities, including a Phil Collins tune ... ah, no, sorry that was Brian and Robert. (I like that song very much, mind you, when played by Trey alone, see his 08/02/08 gig.) Sure, Forbin's Bird is great, Sanity is properly demented and SOAM is awesoam (honestly, the jam is beautifully creepy, a perfect comment on the preceding Sanity).
As for Set 2, my stupidity makes me think it's the shortest second set ever, as my ears can't think of Antelope as anything but a closer. Anyway it's a pretty average Antelope. Carini's jam drifts nicely into Waves territory, but the transition itself is pretty bad, I feel, as if Trey forced it on his bandmates, and Fish demurred. Waves itself is as beautifully dreamy as usual, until Tweezer creeps in and starts off in a funny fashion. Unfortunately, Fish locks into a mechanical beat until well into the jam. Said jam is pretty good, very spacey (it could have segued nicely into 2001), albeit a bit flat perhaps. We breathe nicely with Dirt, and then Mike's Groove brings a very good second jam and nice Treyism in Blaze On.
Contact is Phish's best song as far as lyrics are concerned, so it makes for a pleasant encore. I've never been a Frankenstein fan, but as an energetic closer it sure does its job.
All in all, while I think this is a very good show, I don't think of it as a show for the ages. The Carini-to-Dirt dream sequence is sure worth repeated listening, but there is more to a show than the pièce de résistance.
Score: -4
Review by Phishsx78
Overall I think this show is pretty overrated. Yeah we got some cool bust-outs in the 1st set, but to open the 2nd set with a standard Antelope was pretty awkward and pointed toward similar things to come - such as the not talked about rip-corded versions of Carini and Waves. To me this is where the show really could have lifted off into the stratosphere but these songs seemed like they were going somewhere and then got the axe from Big Red. Not sure what was going on there. Yes the Tweezer was special but then we get a ho-hum Mike's Groove. I think most people are blinded by all the 1st set bust outs, which were pretty special nonetheless, but when you look at this show from a whole it shouldn't be on a "best of summer" list. It is nowhere near the Atlanta I show.
Score: -17
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Let master career change coach, Unre Visagie, show you how to approach your career change for maximum gain. People that follow the Career Maker process typically earn the same and sometimes even more after their career change. This happens because they clearly communicate the skills, resources and attititude they bring to their new job, career and company.
Watch this expert video from Master Coach, Unre Visagie below:
We are talking today about careerdevelopmentplan.net and its product: Career Maker System. This is a safe, secure, proven and now foolproof system on how to change careers. Change careers safely, securely, calmly and with a plan. The issue is the plan can only come from you. Or shall I say the content of the plan must come from you.
We have found over the years that the thing that stops most people is fear, fears are from perceptions, they are not real, they are just perceived. It’s really important to know that these fears are never real. FEAR simply stands for False Evidence Appearing Real. Fear generates perceptions of risk, huge risks, and the risks are perceived since the fears are perceived. One of the many fears is fear of the unknown and fear of failure.
Fear of failure, where FAIL is a First Attempt In Learning. During everything we’ve learnt in life, from walking, talking, bicycle riding to driving a car, we have failed, and we have learnt from this failure. The Americans in California call it very nicely failing forward. With bicycle riding you even lost some skin. What happens to people is that they feel safe in some job or career, and they perceive that change is going to mean losing that safety, instead of the view that change creates new safety. You can see it as a box that you’ve got to escape, or a prison, and all you need is the key because the key to success can only work from your hand opening the door from inside. It can never be opened from the outside.
The other way to look at this whole safe career change is to realize there’s a lot you can see up here that you cannot really touch. It’s the glass plate principle, you feel you can touch it but you bump. What you bump against is that glass plate or the box or the prison that consist of these perceptions and fears which are not real. When you look at career change, midlife career change, change at 40, it is an issue of the work you do, the job within which you do the work, the company within which you have the job, and a company is always part of an industry. If you can get this aligned to suit you, life must be very close to perfect.
We like to break into a second area where your work aligns with your job and then with your long-term career aims, and if that aim is clear it’s like a beacon you put out there. You can publish it on linkedin, you can tell your friends, you can send letters, and all the people you know who know people can send it, because you are clear. That brings us to the challenges of career change in this model that I have briefly touched on.
The first challenge is to reach this clarity, and that is why part of the process is to search for information, prepare the information, and choose where you want to be engaged: job, company, industry. Make sure it lines up with your long-term career, so that you continuously aim for your career beacon. All of us can do that.
We have achieved this with thousands; thousands in our companies, because we realized that when people have this alignment and they have sufficient new challenges their productivity jumps. We also realized that if we can get people productive quickly it is very beneficial for the company. It was very expensive to hire new people; we had to get them productive quickly. This is where these processes were born.
The processes have been honed during the last 12 years in coaching at a high end but we have engaged in a lot of pro bono work at schools, universities and communities as well. I must admit the communities were the toughest, that is where the processes really got simplified, and became foolproof. Clarity is critical. That clarity must be prepared and communicated and the alignment must be kept. Through communication you clearly engage the company and industry, you engage the teams you work with, and you communicate and engage with the people around you.
A young lady, Laura, came to me and said: “My husband says if I keep on working in this company I’ll be stupid, I must leave immediately.” I sat down with her and we went through this process, we looked at the plusses in the company and we look at the minuses in the company, we made a balance sheet. She went home and told this new story to her husband. As it turns out, she was mostly focussed on the issues and problems that she had, and as we addressed a lot of the problems, it helped clear the minuses. Afterwards they said that if you leave this job you’ll be a fool.
It is a change in perception, using the information, preparing the information, communicating the information. You will hear those three steps in many different models and guises, but it’s always just the three steps. Get hold of new information and facts, organize the information, and communicate what you’ve organized.
It’s always just three steps to maintain alignment, provided you know what you really want, what makes your eyes light up, what makes you happy to go to work so you never feel like you work a day in your life. I sometimes almost feel a bit guilty to acknowledge that for nearly 25 years I’ve been working in that space where I never felt for a moment that I am working. 20% to 30% goes into work I would like to delegate. I try to delegate since I believe if I don’t delegate I steal somebody else’s work, but you can’t always delegate so a percentage will always be tough.
You can view this alignment and clarity as overcoming the challenges which makes your fears disappear. It’s not as if you address them, by getting clarity and information the fears simply go away.
The following is an equivalent model that you can use. The purpose of your career, your career aim, your career beacon during the short term is to choose the work you do, in the job you do, for the company and the industry you want to do it in. This should align with your long-term personal wishes for earnings, career, how much you work, where you work etc. That means that strategically you keep your long-term career aim, it’s your long-term career vision and mission, almost like a company vision and mission. In the short-term your objectives and your tasks always align with your strategic plan.
That plan, just like in any company, you must be able to communicate succinctly: why and what about your career, why and what about your job, why and what about your industry and why and what about your choice. All of this is about you; you are the centre of this always. However, if you put yourself first you come last.
What is important is the service you’re going to deliver to the team around you, your company and your industry, and back home. From that service you will get your returns. Always look at what you can contribute, how you can grow what you contribute. Look at your store of goodies that you can use to be productive, that store will grow very fast. You can choose where you apply your store, who buys in your store what you offer.
We hope we’ve made it clear that a career change at any time in your life can be a safe and secure process and your fears could disappear, provided you realize you’ve got to be aligned, you address the challenges, you communicate with the people around you, your purpose of career, your career beacon and your career aim is clear. You can have a long-term plan to keep you aligned with your work, job, company and industry. I hope I will see you again down the line in our Career Maker System which is foolproof.
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Carrier Midea India Commissions Air Conditioning Manufacturing Plant at Bawal, Haryana
Initial capacity 7lac units to be scaled to 10lac units
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Investment of Rs. 500 crores
New Delhi, Oct. 30, 2012 - Carrier Midea India Pvt. Ltd., a joint venture between Carrier India and Midea, today announced commencing of operations at its new manufacturing facility situated at Bawal, Haryana, about 60kms from Gurgaon. Spanning approximately 150,000 sq. ft., the plant is one of India’s largest manufacturing facilities for air conditioners with an initial annual flat volume production capacity of 7,00,000 units, which will be expanded to 1,000,000 units. With an investment of Rs.500 crore over a five to six year period, Carrier Midea India will further strengthen its position in the residential air-conditioning and white goods market in India.
Aiming rapid growth in India, the company will manufacture, distribute and service Carrier®-Residential Air Conditioners, Midea Residential Air Conditioners and Home Appliances, which will include large and living appliances. Both brands will be available through a strong nationwide channel network.
This plant is a significant milestone for Carrier Midea India. Beginning construction in February 2012, the plant has become fully operational in the short timeframe of just eight months. With state-of-the-art technology, it targets increased localisation of world-class technology for the Indian consumer. The facility also aims at providing an employee-focused working environment for more than 1,000 people that the factory will engage once it reaches full capacity
Speaking on the occasion, Mr. Paul Fang, Chairman, Midea Group, said, “Carrier Midea India is a reflection of our long standing relationship with Carrier, across the globe. We have come together in India with a long-term commitment, promise and major expansion plans. India is one of the fastest growing markets in the world and we are hopeful of delighting and transforming the Indian consumers’ experience with our vast product solutions and performance driven products.”
Carrier Midea India will launch the Midea range of products in the Indian market shortly, and plans to progressively introduce Carrier Residential Air Conditioners and Midea products, including Residential and Light Commercial Air Conditioners and select home appliances. Mr. Zubin Irani, President, UTC Climate, Controls & Security – India, remarked, “Carrier Midea India leverages Midea's scale and technology with Carrier's strong distribution in India to better serve customers in the residential segment. Carrier is fully committed to our partnership with Midea in India and we believe this will add significant value to our customers and distribution partners.”
Carrier Midea India will use a dual brand strategy for distribution of Carrier and Midea products in India.
The Carrier Midea factory is an environmentally responsible facility with 100 percent recycled water, rainwater, and evaporative air cooling in production areas and maximum use of natural lighting on the shop floor to save energy.
Mr. Zubin Irani, president, UTC Climate, Controls & Security – India, remarked, “Carrier Midea India leverages Midea's scale and technology with Carrier's strong distribution in India to better serve customers in the residential segment. Carrier is fully committed to our partnership with Midea in India and we believe this will add significant value to our customers and distribution partners.”
Carrier Midea India will use a dual brand strategy for distribution of Carrier and Midea brand products in India.
Mr. Krishan Sachdev, Managing Director, Carrier Midea India said, “The Carrier Midea facility marks a new beginning that will help us expand our footprint in the country. With two brands - Carrier and Midea - Carrier Midea India will be a strong player in the consumer durable market and also delight our customers with best-in-class products and services. We are very excited to introduce Midea in India.”
The Carrier Midea factory is an environmentally responsible facility with 100 percent recycled water, rain water harvesting, evaporative air-cooling in production areas and maximum use of natural lighting on the shop floor to save energy.
Carrier Midea India Private Limited is a joint venture bringing together the expertise of Carrier and Midea.
Carrier is the world leader in high technology heating, air-conditioning and refrigeration (HVACR) solutions with operations in more than 170 countries. Midea is a $22 billion home appliance and air conditioning conglomerate with presence in more than 190 countries. Carrier Midea India has a manufacturing facility in Bawal, Haryana, and has a product range that includes Carrier Residential Air Conditioners and Midea Air Conditioners and Home Appliances.
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Il Sole Penetra le Illusioni Website Streams Promotional Video
Published by カリス on June 16, 2013 June 16, 2013
The official website for the anime project Il Sole Penetra le Illusioni / Gen’ei o Kakeru Taiyō has began streaming promotional videos. Alongside it, the cast and character descriptions, along with visuals, has been revealed.
In the story, the world is ruled by two kinds of tarot cards since the ancient years. Diabolos Tarot is a devil’s tarot that eats up on souls of those blameless and without sin, causing them much misfortune. The Elemental Tarot is the source of nature’s ability to counter the powerful Diabolos. Different girls are chosen from 22 clans in order to use the Elemental Tarot cards in battles which other humans are unaware of. To maintain the balance of the world, they may become either a destroyer, or a savior.
Below are the characters and voice actors for the Il Sole Penetra le Illusioni anime:
Mai Kadowaki is Akari Taiyou, a 12 year old girl whose disposition is cheerful and bright like the sun. She becomes the holder of the Sun Card after she loses her mother, who was a fortune teller.
Eri Kitamura is Seira Hoshikawa, a cool and poised girl whose favorite hobbies are weight training and mixing a chicken salad. She holds the Star Card.
Sora Tokui is Luna Tsukuyomi, the air-headed daughter of the Tsukuyomi Zaibatsu family. She holds the Moon Card.
Yuiko Tatsumi is Ginka Shirokane, a loud and boisterous girl who is the daughter of the Sancho Pansa discount store chain’s president. She has a strong sense of justice, but can be a little selfish. She holds the Temperance Card.
The anime will be produced at AIC as directed by Keizou Kusakawa. Michiko Itou is in charge of the scripts based on Sole Viola’s original story. Shinpei Tomooka will adapt the original character designs for animation by Gomoku Akatsuki. Tatsuya Katou will provide the music with sound director, Yoshikazu Iwanami.
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Playtech BGT Sports extends Gamestec partnership
Playtech BGT Sports (PBS) has extended its partnership with Gamestec Playnation Group for the maintenance of its self-service betting terminals in the UK.
Following a transition from the existing provider, the supplier will become a primary partner to PBS, increasing the number of terminals its engineers will cover from 8,000 to 14,500 by the beginning of August.
The new deal will feature a host of operational improvements, as well as investment in significant resources to ensure even better service delivery to PBS’ operator partners.
John Pettit, Managing Director for the UK, Ireland, Asia, and Australia at Playtech BGT Sports, said: “Our retail estate requires a dedicated team that’s proven to maintain large, varied terminal types and Gamestec Playnation Group fits this bill well with years of high-level industry experience.
“With their recent investment in service vehicles and engineering teams, accompanied by in-depth knowledge of the retail gaming sector, we look forward to a successful relationship in the coming years which will ensure our partners and their customers receive a much-improved service.”
Peter Davies, Managing Director for Gamestec Playnation Group, said: “Playtech BGT Sports is the leading player in the provision of SSBTs and we are delighted to have agreed a deal to service their machines for them.
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Trapped in the Mundane
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Bug Chasing in Google Play Books
What I'm about to say concerns the epub rendering engine used by Google Play Books, the Californian tech-behemoth's first major attempt to break into the world of ebook retail. It will explain why I consider Google Play Books to be easily the weirdest e-reader available on the market today. As anyone who has worked with the standards-averse, held-together-with-gaffa-tape world of e-publishing will testify, competition for the title of "weirdest epub rendering engine" is always fierce, so this is quite a claim.
I think my findings back it up though.
Most e-readers ruin your books by not recognising certain CSS declarations, overriding them with their own defaults, or by implementing your CSS in a freakishly non-standard way – not so Google Play Books. The part of Google Play Books that handles CSS stylesheets – presumably forked from the Chrome browser – seems to be excellent, it can understand complex pseudo-class selectors and parse combinations of pseudo-class and pseudo-element selectors with ease. The problem comes from the way that it handles the HTML framework onto which that CSS is applied.
This first became apparent to me when I loaded one of the books I was working on into Google Play Books. This book had drop-caps on the opening body-text paragraphs of each chapter. These were identified using an HTML class (p.first) and a pseudo-element selector (::first-letter). I did it this way because it allowed swanky modern systems like iBooks and Readium to display drop-caps, but phrased it in such a way that Adobe Digital Editions and similar readers (which always render drop-caps wrong) would ignore it (pseudo elements mean nothing to them).
When I loaded this book into Google Play books I noticed something odd. In addition to the drop cap on the first paragraph (which rendered very nicely), it added a drop cap to the first letter of the following page (the page break having fallen halfway through the first para). This seemed to imply that Google Play Books was altering my HTML in real-time (it reacted to changes in font-size and line-height that moved the page break), adding in a hard paragraph break on either side of the page break.
This was weird, but I just thought “meh, I've seen weirder” and changed the pseudo-class selector to counter this odd habit. The drop-cap selector now said div.text>p:first-of-type::first-letter – selecting the first letter of the first child of the div.text container. I figured this would stop it from applying the drop cap to the second, artificial <p class="first">
When I ran this code in Readium, it worked fine. When I ran it in Google Play Books, however, something really strange happened. The text sprouted drop caps everywhere – not only on the first paragraph of the chapter, but also on the first paragraph of each page and the first paragraph after each nested <div>. This seemed to imply that Google Play Books was closing and re-opening the body text container at the end of each page and whenever the flow of text was interrupted by something.
Intrigued, I added another layer to my selector. I changed it to body>div.text>p:first-of-type::first-letter this absurdly convoluted selector should, in theory, have selected only the first letter of the first paragraph of the first div in the whole HTML document. What it actually did was select the first letter of each page.
This seems to imply that in order to render a book, Google Play Books takes the content from your epub and pastes it into an individual HTML document for each page. To make it even stranger, in order to work out where to put the page breaks it must have to apply the CSS to the HTML first, then work out where the page breaks will fall, then chop up the HTML into individual documents and re-apply the CSS. Only after it has gone through all that can it render the page.
This seems absurd, but it would explain some things about the odd behaviour of the Google Play Books app. For example, if you adjust the font size or line height, the screen goes blank and the whole thing has to reload before it can display the changes. This isn't something that any other e-reader does, but would make sense it it was having to re-generate a set of html files. Secondly, even simple books take a long time to load. The same book takes longer to load in Google Play Books – running on a brand-new android tablet – than it does on a first-generation iPad. Finally, there's the strange way that Google Play Books has to pause to load every six pages or so. There’s no way I know of to download and view a fragment of an HTML document, so logically there should only be a loading screen at the beginning of each chapter.
Unfortunately the only way to know exactly what it’s doing would be to break it open and rummage through the source code – a task I have absolutely no idea how to do (I'm just an editor who knows a bit of CSS).
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Marilyn at Julien’s: Honeymoon With Joe
Goodman Basil Espy III, M.D. loved purchasing sports and Hollywood memorabilia, so it’s not surprising that Marilyn’s romance with baseball legend Joe DiMaggio – and especially, their tour of Japan and Korea – would be at the heart of his Monroe archive, as we discover in this third post about the November 14 auction at Julien’s, A Southern Gentleman’s Collection. And first up, this ‘Official American League Ball‘ is signed in blue ballpoint ink ‘Marilyn Monroe’ – but not in the sweet spot! (You can read all posts about this sale here.)
“A set of two travel alarm clocks; the first beige metal with a ribbed plastic retractable cover by Westclox; the second brass with a red face by Tiffany & Co., engraved on the bottom ‘Marilyn Monroe;’ interestingly, MM was shot in a series of black and white photographs by Bob Beerman circa 1953 where the Westclox piece can be seen on her bedside table.”
SOLD for $7,500
Following a two-year courtship, Marilyn and Joe were married in January 1954. Weeks later, they went on a ‘honeymoon‘ of sorts, as Joe promoted baseball in Japan. These four photos show the couple en route, and after their arrival in Tokyo. And sold separately, “a traditional Japanese fan likely made of bamboo and painted black with a natural wood handle … according to a catalogue description from Christie’s where it was originally sold, ‘…Joe immediately purchased this small memento for his one true love’ apparently on ‘February 2, 1954.'”
Photos SOLD for $896; fan SOLD for $2,560
“A standard United States Department of Defense identification card issued to Marilyn, featuring a small black and white photograph of her in the upper left corner, text reads in part ‘DiMaggio, Norma Jeane,’ photograph is dated ‘4 Feb 54,’ card is dated ‘8 Feb. 1954,’ signed by Monroe in blue ballpoint ink on the lower margin ‘Norma Jeane DiMaggio,’ further black fountain pen ink annotations of the issuing officer appear below, verso displays Monroe’s finger prints next to her typed statistics reading ‘Height 5′ 5 1/2″ / Weight 118 / Color of Hair Blonde / Color of Eyes Blue / Religion None / Blood Type UNK / Date of Birth 1 June 26,’ laminated. Monroe visited Japan and then Korea while on her honeymoon with Joe DiMaggio in February of 1954, and she was given this ‘Noncombatant’s Certificate of Identity’ so she could perform for the American troops while there.”
UNSOLD – reserve not met
A group of three snapshots, all taken in February 1954 when Marilyn was performing for the US troops in Korea; the first shows MM from the back as she walks by; the other two show a cake the soldiers presented to her (though she’s not in the shots). And sold separately, a strip of paper with a soldier’s name and other information on it, signed in blue ballpoint ink ‘Marilyn Monroe.'”
Photos SOLD for $320; autograph SOLD for $2,240
“A single sheet of paper, typed with notes about Marilyn’s Korean tour that appears to be for photo captions or perhaps an interview, heavily annotated in pencil in Monroe’s hand where she revises or edits the typed text, ending with ‘I knew it was raining – but I somehow didn’t / feel it – all I could think was I hoped / they weren’t getting too wet / Korea – / an experience I’ll never forget.'”
“A standard issue military jacket made of olive green wool, long sleeves, two front flap pockets, six button front closure, stamped on inside lining in part ‘Medium,’ adorned with countless Army-related patches, insignia, and lapel pins, further patch sewn above left pocket with white stitching reads ‘Monroe;’ presented to the star by a VIP soldier when she famously visited the troops in February 1954 while on her honeymoon with Joe DiMaggio; the jacket is displayed within a shadow box along with two black and white images [sold separately, here]: one shows MM receiving the folded-up jacket from a soldier named McGarr; the other shows MM with McGarr and Jean O’Doul [wife of baseball great, Lefty O’Doul] wearing the jacket.
Jacket SOLD for $44,800; photos SOLD for $768
“A single page of stationery printed with an ‘M,’ penned in blue ballpoint ink, no date, to ‘Jimmy,’ reading in part ‘I was so happy you met us / at the airport and I got to see you / again – your [sic] one of my favorite / people you know,’ ending with ‘Have a Happy Birthday and a / wonderful time / Marilyn’ — Jimmy being James ‘Lefty’ O’Doul, professional baseball player and later a manager and mentor to Joe DiMaggio; included with its original envelope addressed to ‘Mr. Jimmy Gold O’doul [sic] / Personal.’ And sold separately, four photos taken in Korea; three depict Marilyn with others as she wears her fitted checkered dress from Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (1953); one depicts Jean O’Doul [wife of baseball great Lefty O’Doul] and a soldier; versos of all display various handwritten annotations in pencil and fountain pen ink including the date of ’27/2/54.'”
Letter SOLD for $6,400; photos SOLD for $1,250
Original photo, though now creased and wrinkled, depicting Marilyn in a living room with four other females circa 1954, a black ballpoint ink annotation handwritten on the verso reads ‘This is the interior / of the house in / Beverly Hills. It was / rented by Joe;’ also included are three other snapshots from the same day but printed decades later.”
SOLD for $768
“A small clutch-style purse, made of beige raw silk, gold-tone metal frame with rhinestone closure, zipper on bottom opens to reveal another compartment, inside lined in tan-colored silk, label reads ‘Saks Fifth Avenue,’ additional studio label reads ‘1-6-3-1667 M. Monroe A-729; used by Marilyn as ‘Vicky Parker’ in an extended sequence with Donald O’Connor as ‘Tim Donahue’ in There’s No Business Like Show Business (1954.)”
“A standard playbill for The Teahouse of the August Moon signed in blue fountain pen ink on the top margin of the cover by Marilyn and in turquoise fountain pen ink on the side margin of the cover by Joe DiMaggio.” [The play starred David Wayne, who had appeared with Marilyn in four films, including How to Marry a Millionaire. She would see the play again after moving to New York, when her Actors’ Studio buddy Eli Wallach joined the cast.]
“A group of four telegrams, variously dated in December 1954, to the star and her lawyer [Frank Delaney] from an executive at 20th Century Fox, outlining how Marilyn needs to fulfill her obligation to The Seven Year Itch even though she’s sick; funny documents showing how Marilyn was being Marilyn and the studio had to acquiesce because she was…Marilyn. And sold separately, a contact sheet depicting 12 images of Marilyn wearing a white fur stole as she stands next to Itch director Billy Wilder in 1954, mounted to cardboard, signed in black felt-tip ink in the lower right corner ‘for Billy Wilder from Dick Avedon / 67.'”
Telegrams SOLD for $1,024; contact sheet SOLD for $3,200
“A small piece of paper with the top and bottom portions torn off, one side has penciled questions written in another hand, likely that of Ben Hecht or Sidney Skolsky [as both men who helped Marilyn to write her 1954 memoir, My Story, which wasn’t published until 1974], reading in full ‘Think about / 1) anecdote about pics / working on / 2) about Johnny Hyde – / how helped you – gave courage,’ rest of page and other side have Monroe’s blue fountain pen ink responses, with one compelling part reading ‘for those who want to / judge – I’ve traded my (paper purposely torn off here but evidently ‘body’) / more than once / for shelter and small quantities / of understanding and / warmth. I never traded for money / or a job directly or anything (one) could see / with the naked eye / except from one man / who was also deeply lonely…’ and it ends there on that cliffhanger!”
When Marilyn Met Marlene
Founded in 1969, Andy Warhol’s Interview was the magazine to be seen in for nearly forty years. Although it ceased publication last year, Interview still has an online presence and earlier this week, a snippet from the past was discovered.
“As a notable admirer of Marilyn Monroe’s, Andy Warhol was sure to get some of the juiciest gossip in his celebrity circle. While he was still Editor-in-Chief of Interview, alongside Paul Morissey and Fred Hughes, he buried a drama bomb of information in the ‘Small Talk’ section of the June 1973 issue involving Marlene Dietrich and M.M herself. However, not one of the contributing editors took credit for the gossip; they instead chose to keep the source anonymous … According to the ‘Small Talk’ column, Dietrich attended a screening of one of Monroe’s earlier films and talked through every one of her scenes, mumbling: ‘So this is what they want now. This is what they call sexy.'”
Marlene Dietrich by Eve Arnold, 1952
Eve Arnold, who photographed Marlene at work in a recording studio for Esquire magazine in 1952, recalled that when she later met Marilyn, the subject of Dietrich came up: “Marilyn asked – with that mixture of naïveté and self-promotion that was uniquely hers – ‘If you could do that well with Marlene, can you imagine what you could do with me?'”
Mariene Dietrich by Milton Greene, 1952
Another photographer who worked with Dietrich was Milton Greene, who later became Marilyn’s business partner. In 1955, he invited Marlene to a New York press conference to announce the formation of their new company, Marilyn Monroe Productions.
Like all stars (Marilyn included), Dietrich was naturally competitive. But although she may have briefly ‘thrown shade’ in Marilyn’s direction – to use a term that didn’t exist back then – there’s no sign of any rancour between them in these photographs.
In 1957, Marilyn was offered the lead role in a remake of The Blue Angel, which had made Marlene a global star many years before. That never came to pass, but a year later, Marilyn would recreate the character in her ‘Fabled Enchantresses’ photo session with Richard Avedon, although out of respect for Dietrich, she later asked the photographer to withdraw the images and they were not made public until long after Marilyn died.
Marilyn poses as Marlene for photographer Richard Avedon, 1958
Marilyn would take a leaf out of Marlene’s playbook again in 1962, asking costumer Jean Louis to recreate the beaded ‘nude’ dress he had made for Dietrich to wear during nightclub performances. Monroe’s version became immortalised that May, when she sang ‘Happy Birthday Mr President’ to John F. Kennedy at Madison Square Garden.
Whatever Marlene’s initial thoughts on Marilyn may have been, she would remember her admiringly, writing in her 1987 memoir: “Marilyn Monroe was an authentic sex symbol, because not only was she ‘sexy’ by nature but she also liked being one – and she showed it.”
Marilyn Brings Fans to JewelStreet
This 1.5 metre white-bead necklace worn by Marilyn in Richard Avedon’s publicity shots for Some Like It Hot and worth £12,000, is up for grabs in a contest ending on December 31 this year. To enter, subscribe now to the JewelStreet email newsletter.
Marilyn, a Basket and a Baby
This rare and charming photo of Marilyn getting her make-up done by an unnamed woman while a baby looks on from inside a basket, was posted to the Avedon Foundation’s Instagram account yesterday. It was taken in New York 61 years ago, on July 2, 1958 – five days before Marilyn flew to Los Angeles to begin shooting Some Like It Hot.
Marilyn at Julien’s: Personal and Business Correspondence
Today in an ongoing series on the upcoming Legends sale at Julien’s Auctions, a look at correspondence and other papers from Marilyn’s personal archive. (More about the auction here.)
UPDATE: I have added the final bids to each item.
“An original clipping from a Mexican newspaper detailing Marilyn’s visit to the National Institute for the Protection of Children on March 1, 1962, and her donation of $1,000.00 to the institute. Also included is a document translating the article, reading in part, ‘The American actress Marilyn Monroe yesterday visited the National Institute for the Protection of Children where she greeted the president of that organization, Mrs. Eva Samano de Lopez Mateos, to whom she gave 12,500 pesos – one thousand dollars – for the needy children.'” (SOLD for $768)
“An unsigned carbon-copy of a letter, likely from May Reis, Marilyn Monroe’s secretary, to hairdresser Kenneth, dated July 16, 1958. The letter reads in part, ‘Thank you for sending on Miss Monroe’s chignon but I am sorry it has not turned out as she had ordered it so it is being returned to you under separate cover.'” (SOLD for $192)
“A one-page handwritten letter from press agent Patricia Newcomb to Marilyn, dated June 2, 1956. The letter reads in part, ‘Enclosed is a copy of your eye perscription (sic) which I got this morning from Lee Seigel. I am also sending you another bottle, in case you might be running short.’ Also, ‘I mailed your records and hair dryer today, so they should arrive by the end of the week.'” (SOLD for $1,125)
“A one-page typed letter to Marilyn from Nunnally Johnson, dated February 1, no year specified (but probably sent after their 1962 meeting at the Beverly Hills Hotel, to discuss Something’s Got to Give.) The letter reads in part, ‘This is to put it on paper that I’ve rarely had a merrier evening. There’s no question about it, the only way to discuss business is over a bottle or two of champagne, with occasional reflections on sex to keep everything in balance. And if ever the occasion rises you may cite me as a bloke who also likes to sit and talk with you.’ The letter is hand-signed. A well-known screenwriter, Johnson worked on a number of projects related to Monroe, including We’re Not Married, and How to Marry a Millionaire.” (SOLD for $2,240)
“Two letters from the Actors’ Studio, dated January 10 and 12, 1961, regarding the Actors’ Studio Benefit scheduled for March 13, 1961. The January 10 letter announces, ‘Marilyn Monroe will be one of the stars who will draw the lucky tickets for our door prizes and for the Dance Contests.’ The letter is signed by Lee Strasberg, Cheryl Crawford and Elia Kazan (facsimile signatures). The second letter, sent by the benefit’s coordinator, asks Marilyn if it would be possible to take a photo of her wearing a fur coat that will be raffled as a door prize. The letter further requests that Marilyn write to executives at United Artists asking them to reserve tables at the event.” (SOLD for $768)
“Three letters, all dated in January of 1961, referencing possible film projects for Marilyn’s consideration. The January 3 letter from George Chasin is on MCA letterhead and references Touch of Mink, written by Stanley Shapiro (later filmed with Doris Day.) The January 26 letter, also on MCA letterhead, references a screenplay entitled The Notorious Lady, and is signed by Marvin Birdt with a copy to Chasin (later filmed with Kim Novak as The Notorious Landlady.) The January 31 letter is on Twentieth Century-Fox Film Corporation letterhead and references A Lost Lady, and is signed by Frank McCarthy, Director of Public Relations at the studio. (Based on one of Marilyn’s favourite novels (according to her friend and masseur, Ralph Roberts), and previously filmed as Courageous with Barbara Stanwyck in 1934, but dissatisfied with the result, author Willa Cather had banned all movies based on her work.) In this same letter McCarthy writes, ‘Congratulations again on The Misfits and I hope it will achieve the great success it deserves.'” (SOLD for $512)
“A small notecard to Marilyn from producer Buddy Adler. The notecard reads, ‘Darling, It’s wonderful having you home again. Best wishes, Buddy Adler.’ Adler was the producer of Bus Stop, released in 1956. This card is likely in reference to Marilyn’s return to Hollywood in 1956 after having spent the entirety of 1955 in New York City.” (SOLD for $640)
“A two-page typed letter on Algonquin Hotel letterhead to Marilyn from photographer John Bryson, dated August 6, 1960, in reference to the August 15, 1960 issue of LIFE magazine, in which his photos of Marilyn on the set of Let’s Make Love were published. The letter reads in part, ‘I am very happy, however, to report that we close with a larger than full page of the picture of Arthur swabbing off your back after a hard day’s rehearsal. I think the little girl look in this is the best picture I ever took of you.’ The letter goes on to read, ‘Anyway, it is done and I hope you like it. If you do or do not I would like for you to remember that I think you are one of the best women I have ever known and if you ever need a friend for anything just call day or night. I do not say such things casually.'” (SOLD for $1,280)
“A Western Union telegram from Mary Leatherbee of LIFE magazine dated June 26, 1958, regarding photos of Marilyn taken by Richard Avedon in which she recreated images of famous actresses for a spread entitled ‘Fabled Enchantresses.'” (SOLD for $640)
“A one-page typed letter to Marilyn from Emmeline Snively, dated July 31, 1958. Snively was the owner and manager of the Bluebook Modeling Agency. Marilyn, still Norma Jean at the time, signed with the agency in 1945, and Snively is believed to have assisted her in transforming into Marilyn Monroe. The letter reads in part, ‘We have been following your steady progress over the years, and our students at Blue Book Models regard your success and constant development as an inspiration.’ Included with this letter is a torn portion of the original mailing envelope with Snively’s typed mailing address. Pencil scribbles are visible on the envelope fragment, possibly written in Marilyn’s own hand. It is interesting to note that Snively attempted to stay in contact with Marilyn throughout the star’s career. In fact, she was one of a very few guests from Marilyn’s inner circle who was invited to her funeral.” (SOLD for $640)
“Six documents referencing an agreement, and the dissolution thereof, between Marilyn Monroe and Ben Hecht regarding his authoring her life story. Included is a facsimile copy of the originally signed agreement between Monroe and Hecht, dated March 16, 1954, in which the terms of the agreement are exceedingly clear. Three unsigned carbon copies of this same agreement are included. Also included is a facsimile copy of a two-page letter sent to Hecht by Marilyn’s attorney Lloyd Wright, Jr., in which he demands that Hecht ‘surrender to us on behalf of our client, Miss Marilyn Monroe, all, and I repeat all, copies of any material concerning Miss Marilyn Monroe written by Mr. Ben Hecht, pursuant to his contract of March 16, 1954 with Marilyn Monroe, or otherwise.’ Marilyn partnered with Hecht to write her life story, stating specifically that the article could be published only in the Ladies’ Home Journal magazine.” (SOLD for $640)
“A two-page typed memo from Robert H. Montgomery, Jr. to John F. Wharton regarding ‘Proposed settlement of dispute between Milton H. Greene and Marilyn Monroe. The document clarifies that Monroe will pay Greene $50,000.00 for his stock in Marilyn Monroe Productions, Inc. in five equal annual installments, and also that she will sell to Greene her stock in Milton Greene Studios.’ The document further states, ‘all agreements existing between them are cancelled and of no further force and effect.’ A second two-page original document outlines the distribution of furniture and equipment, including paintings, rugs, a vacuum cleaner, a lamp, a chair and a sofa, typewriters, and other items.” (SOLD for $1,000)
The Truth About Marilyn’s Iconic ‘Pearl’ Necklace
The necklace worn by Marilyn in Richard Avedon’s publicity shots for Some Like It Hot have been declared the most iconic pearl image in history, in a poll conducted by British chocolatier Thornton’s to promote their new ‘Thornton’s Pearl’ range, the Scottish Sun reports. (There’s just one problem with that – the white beads she wore weren’t actually pearls!)
Avedon’s Marilyn Plate Sold for $75K
Richard Avedon’s melancholic 1957 portrait of Marilyn, one of 35 plates printed in 1970 as part of a ‘Minneapolis Portfolio’, fetched an impressive $75,000 today in a Photographs auction at Sotheby’s in New York.
Avedon’s Marilyn: Rare Nudes Emerge
An extremely rare (and very charming) series of semi-nude photos shot by Richard Avedon, featuring Marilyn with hairdresser Kenneth Battelle, has surfaced on the website of the Edward Cella Gallery in Los Angeles.
This was probably shot during the same session that made the cover of Life magazine to promote Some Like It Hot in April 1959, although Marilyn had worked with Avedon the previous summer on the ‘Fabled Enchantresses’ sessions (published in Life in December 1958.) Avedon had been unhappy with some of the shots, so these nudes could have been among the rejects. However, Marilyn’s slightly bouffant hairstyle more closely resembles her look in March 1959, when Battelle accompanied Marilyn to the Some Like It Hot premiere in Chicago (see here.)
Interestingly, this was not the first time Marilyn stripped off for Avedon – she also posed topless for his ‘Photomatic’ series in 1957 (see here.) The playful nature of these images reflects Marilyn’s trust in Avedon – which was seemingly well-placed, considering how long it has taken for the shots to appear.
Thanks to Paul and Johann
Pop Trash: Jason Mecier’s Marilyn Mosaic
San Francisco artist Jason Mecier makes mosaics from junk – pills, candy, macaroni, and much more. Mecier’s portrait of Marilyn (based on a photo by Richard Avedon) is featured in his new book, Pop Trash, alongside a young Madonna during her Monroe wannabe period.
Marilyn (and Billy) in Amsterdam
Richard Avedon’s 1954 photo of Marilyn with director Billy Wilder covers the latest issue of Dutch arts weekly VARAgids (or VARA Guide), as this summer’s Wilder retrospective continues at the Eye FilmMuseum in Amsterdam. (You can read the full article – in Dutch – here.)
Thanks to Johann at Marilyn Remembered
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Bylaws Interpretation Regarding A Standing Green Assembly (2012)
Approved by the GPCA Coordinating Committee, June 4th, 2012; and amended to add purpose #3 on January 7th, 2013
Whereas there has been broad interest within the GPCA in establishing a Standing General Assembly since at least 2004-2007, when a CC-appointed sub-committee was tasked with researching how to bring one to the GPCA (http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sgarc-l); and
Whereas there was strong support for a Standing General Assembly during the December 2011 General Assembly strategy session discussion in Los Angeles; and
Whereas the strategy session is designated by GPCA bylaws to provide input into a two-year party work plan for the CC to present at the subsequent General Assembly; and
Whereas the GPCA Bylaws Committee subsequently began work on an SGA right at that meeting and thereafter; and
Whereas the GPCA Bylaws Committee determined that a revision of the GPCA Bylaws to incorporate a Standing General Assembly would be best accomplished as part of an overall reordering and simplification of the existing bylaws text that reformatted, renumbered, and edited for brevity, clarity, consistency and better organization, without changing any meaning; and
Whereas the GPCA Bylaws Committee additionally determined that to ensure a smoothly functioning SGA, other amendments to the text should be made to resolve ambiguities and disputed points in related processes that would affect the SGA, including how delegates would be chosen, which counties are active, which committees and working groups can bring proposals to the SGA and upon what areas, and when and how Coordinating Committee elections are held; and
Whereas the Agenda Team, Coordinating Committee and General Assembly all agreed upon dedicating less than two hours to the SGA proposal on Sunday morning, May 13; and
Whereas it was clear from discussion from delegates during that agenda item that they wanted to see an SGA; and
Whereas the GPCA’s consensus-seeking process was followed, where clarifying questions were taken and outstanding concerns expressed on the text, and amendments proposed to address the outstanding concerns; and
Whereas many delegates did not express concerns with specific parts of the SGA proposal, but instead requested breaking up the proposal into a series of votes on various parts of the proposal; and
Whereas for the purposes of responding to this outstanding concern, the presenters separated the part of the proposal about Coordinating Committee elections from those parts relating to an SGA;
Whereas by the end of the time allowed, there was not a decision to approve bylaws language to establish an SGA; and
Whereas the General Assembly approved of a two year work plan calendar on May 12th, which was based a Standing Green Assembly being in place and in use over next two years, starting on July 1; with the calendar's approval contingent upon an SGA being approved by the General Assembly; and
Whereas there will not be a General Assembly before the November General Election and therefore the GPCA must use its County Polling process to take its positions on the between seven and nine measures that will be on the November ballot; and
Whereas the work plan calendar is based upon the SGA scheduled County Polling to take place via the SGA this fall; and
Whereas the GPCA did not reach quorum in County Polling held this spring, with the email County Polling model used; and
Whereas the GPCA Campaigns and Candidates Working Group is of the opinion that the existing County Polling process in the Bylaws appendix can be interpreted to allow for the use of the same voting page technology such as that specified in the SGA proposal; and
Whereas for the purposes of maximizing its stances on the ballot measures, its in the strategic interest of the GPCA to establish its positions by Labor Day, when the fall campaign official begins; and therefore such County Polling should begin its discussion process by approximately the same time as advocated in the SGA proposal – July 1st – in order to provide for sufficient discussion and voting before Labor Day;
Therefore it is in the interest of the CC to authorize its IT sub-committee to prepare the web-paged voting capability to effectuate such a County Polling process in the time period recommended by July 1st if feasible; and
Whereas the CC is tasked with calling a General Assembly under GPCA Bylaws, when the General Assembly has not done so itself; and
Whereas the San Francisco General Assembly in May did not set a date or location for the next General Assembly; and
Whereas no county party has come forward with a proposal to host the next General Assembly; and
Whereas under GPCA Bylaws the CC is authorized to “make decisions (but not set policy) between General Assembly meetings; and
Whereas given the broad support for the SGA concept at the May General Assembly suggests that the topic continues to need to be heard; and
Whereas to address the SGA proposal in its multiple parts in the manner requested by some delegates would require a large part of the weekend of the next General Assembly, if the SGA is agendized for it; and
Whereas attendance at recent General Assembly has been only between the high 30s to high 40s in delegates, with many parts of the state unrepresented because of the time and cost involved with travel; and
Whereas a General Assembly that is mostly about bylaws is likely to draw an even smaller number of delegates than the low turnout of recent years, depreciating the democratic decision-making base of any decisions taken; and
Whereas at the same time it was clear that for the just concluded General Assembly, many delegates came without having either read the material closely and/or didn't know or understand the existing GPCA bylaws, suggesting that the face-to-face process may not be the best for intricate, extensive bylaw revision work; and
Whereas establishing a SGA would address many issues for the party, including allowing it to make decisions in between general assemblies, to involve more counties in the process, to provide more time for delegates to review proposed material, and to take care of various administrative decision-making via the SGA to free up face-to-face meetings for more direct political work; and
Whereas GPCA Bylaws around bylaws interpretations state that the CC "shall decide these questions subject to review at the next General Assembly”;
Therefore the CC interprets the existing bylaws that allow it to set the next GA, to set the next GA as an SGA, based upon the SGA proposal of May 13, for the following purposes:
1) Conducting County Polling; and
2) Voting upon the individual sections of the SGA proposal, to address the outstanding concerns from the San Francisco General Assembly (and in the process allow the SGA to conduct its review of the CC’s interpretation).
3) Establish a set of Green Party Policy Demands to the California State Legislature/Green Party Legislative Agenda
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Gathering of the Vibes 2014
For its 19th year, the music, camping, and crafts festival known as Gathering of the Vibes will bring together devoted fans of the Grateful Dead and other diverse varieties of music.
In 1996 (one year after the death of Jerry Garcia), the event founders threw a memorial party named “Deadhead Heaven-A Gathering of the Tribe” for music lovers to pay tribute to the Grateful Dead and its frontman. It quickly evolved into the “Gathering of the Vibes” festival to bring those together that have been creating a different music experience from all over the globe. After several New England locations hosted the event, their home base at Seaside Park in Bridgeport, CT will transform into a four-day showcase of national and local talent during July 31-Aug 3.
On the main stage, headliners like Widespread Panic, John Fogerty, Slightly Stoopid, Ziggy Marley, and Rusted Root will ramp up the energy while the Green Vibes Stage will exhibit a mix of genres performed by groups of Kung Fu, Dumpstaphunk, Maceo Parker, and Band Together, and many more. As an added bonus, taping the live concerts is encouraged at GOTV and there are specific sections to set up recording equipment and other gear.
Those attending will enjoy a wide selection of local food/ beverage vendors and can shop for handmade crafts and rare goods. Event organizers plan to make this year the Greenest Vibes yet with significant advances in reducing their carbon footprint and expanding the recycling program. Additionally, the annual food, hygiene, and clothing drive will be held on-site throughout the weekend as they look to add to the 24 tons of donations received since 1999.
Vibes Camping
In the expanse of Seaside Park, visitors can find clean beaches, rolling fields, vibrant wildlife, and great views of the Long Island Sound. Camping options range from setting up along the waterfront, open fields, or within the denser tree areas. Permanent shower and restroom areas are at all the sites and the use of charcoal and propane grills are permitted on the campgrounds. RV passes are sold on a first-come, first-serve basis and there are no power hook-ups available but the use of generators are allowed.
At all campsites, the use of acoustic instruments and hand drums are supported as random jam sessions and live campsite created music is preferred to help spread the weekend positivity.
For almost two decades, the Northeast has been a source of generous support of longtime traditions built on the momentum of the Grateful Dead. The Gathering of the Vibes Festival continues to strengthen its community-building foundation and provides an annual party for music lovers looking to honor the life of Jerry Garcia as well as hosting a platform for new talent to share their sound with the 25,000 in attendance.
The strong bonds the Gathering of the Vibes festival has created with its fan base and local community indicates this event will continue to maintain its progress towards extraordinary music, green initiatives, and spiritual renewal.
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Takes place July 31-Aug 3 in Bridgeport, CT.
Tickets – single day, weekend packages, and VIP options available here!
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Onsite camping and RV passes can be purchased for the weekend.
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Top Ten Pest Notes of 2019
At some point, all of us encounter a pest in our home, garden, or landscape. But you're not alone! UC IPM publishes Pest Notes – a series of more than 150 papers reviewed by experts in the field – to provide science-based information about pests and their management.
These ten Pest Notes were the most frequently viewed online in 2019, with more than 330,000 total pageviews. While it's not a contest, we like to think these are the winners of 2019's most popular pests.
Green peach aphids, Myzus persicae, and their cast skins. (Credit: Jack Kelly Clark)
1. Aphids
These small, soft-bodied insects can multiply rapidly, especially in warm weather. Many species exist in California, feeding on vegetables, flowers, fruit trees, and woody ornamentals. Their sticky honeydew encourages growth of sooty mold, while their feeding can distort growth or transmit viruses from plant to plant. Managing ants and supporting natural enemies are two ways you can reduce aphid damage. Learn more about aphids and their management in the Pest Notes: Aphids.
2. Thrips
Thrips are tiny, slender insects about the size and shape of a dash printed in a newspaper. Some are beneficial predators that feed on other insects and mites. But most feed on plants, sucking out the cell contents, leaving a discolored speckling on leaves or stunting plant growth. An integrated approach is recommended for management, incorporating good cultural practices, natural enemies, and least-toxic insecticides if needed. For more about thrips monitoring and management, visit our Pest Notes: Thrips.
Foliage damaged by leaf curl. (Credit: Jack Kelly Clark)
3. Peach Leaf Curl
Peach leaf curl can affect the blossoms, fruit, leaves, and shoots of peach and nectarine trees. The symptoms of the disease first appear in spring, when distorted red foliage emerges. However, focus management for nonresistant varieties in the late fall and early winter, after leaves drop. Read more about this disease in our Pest Notes: Peach Leaf Curl.
4. Scales
Scales are small, legless insects that look like tiny scabs on the stems, leaves, or fruit of plants. While some scale species can weaken a plant when abundant, other species do not appear to damage plants at all. Think you have a problem with these insects? Visit our Pest Notes: Scales for identification and management options.
5. Fungus Gnats
This pest was surprising to find in this year's top 10. Fungus gnats are small flies that often infest soil and potting mixing, emerging from indoor houseplants and becoming a nuisance. The larvae, or immatures, can damage roots and stunt plant growth when present in large numbers. If you do see these flies flitting about, sticky traps may be effective in reducing the problem. However, the presence of gnats and decline of house plants are more commonly due to too much or too little water and improper soil conditions. More information on these frustrating flies can be found in our Pest Notes: Fungus Gnats.
6. Mealybugs
If you've found soft, oval insects that are white in color with wax filaments on your plants, it is likely you have mealybugs. These wingless insects are often found in clustered colonies on indoor and outdoor plants. In yards and gardens, handpicking, pruning, or high-pressure water sprays can reduce populations. For small infestations indoors, spot treatments may help reduce populations. For houseplants with severe infestations, consider disposing of the plant. Find additional information in Pest Notes: Mealybugs.
Adult opossum, Didelphis virginiana, in a tree. (Credit: R O'Connell)
7. Opossum
In residential areas, this not so mysterious marsupial will take up residence under porches, decks, garden sheds, attics, and basements. Opossums are nocturnal omnivores, foraging for fruits, nuts, plants, insects, snails, and even small mammals such as mice. In addition to being a nuisance in residential areas, they carry various diseases that can be transmitted to humans including tuberculosis, spotted fever, and typhus. The best control for opossums is to screen or block access to areas where they may den. You may also choose to hire a professional wildlife control operator to trap and dispense of any opossum visitors. Pest Notes: Opossum has more on the biology and management of these animals.
8. Carpet Beetles
Carpet beetle adults are typically brought into the home on cut flowers or when they fly in through open doors, windows, or holes in screens. The immature beetles feed on animal products such as wool, silk, leather, fur, and hair. Regular cleaning of rugs, upholstered furniture and closets as well as eliminating accumulations of lint, hair, and other debris is an important preventive measure. Check out the Pest Notes: Carpet Beetles for more preventive and management methods of these pests.
9. Ground Squirrels
Ground squirrels are troublesome rodents found throughout most of California. Their network of burrows can be extensive, damaging trees, lawns, and structures. Ground squirrels can also damage many food-bearing and ornamental plants in yards and gardens. For legal management methods, see our Pest Notes: Ground Squirrels.
10. Whiteflies
Whiteflies are not actual flies but are tiny insects that are often found on the underside of leaves, feeding on the phloem of many different plants. Certain species can cause significant loss in vegetable gardens; other species found in fruit trees are less damaging. In home gardens, reflective mulch can repel whiteflies and yellow sticky traps can reduce numbers of high infestations. Additional management information can be found in Pest Notes: Whiteflies.
Adult greenhouse whiteflies and tiny eggs. (Credit: Jack Kelly Clark)
By Elaine Lander
Author - Urban & Community IPM Educator
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Secure Group Communications Using Key Graphs
by Chung Kei Wong, Mohamed Gouda , Simon S. Lam , 1998
"... Many emerging applications (e.g., teleconference, real-time information services, pay per view, distributed interactive simulation, and collaborative work) are based upon a group communications model, i.e., they require packet delivery from one or more authorized senders to a very large number of au ..."
of authorized receivers. As a result, securing group communications (i.e., providing confidentiality, integrity, and authenticity of messages delivered between group members) will become a critical networking issue. In this paper, we present a novel solution to the scalability problem of group/multicast key
Communication Complexity of Group Key Distribution
by Klaus Becker, Uta Wille , 1998
"... Communication complexity has always been an important issue when designing group key distribution systems. This paper systematically studies what can be achieved for the most common measures of protocol complexity. Lower bounds for the total number of messages, the total number of exchanges, and the ..."
Communication complexity has always been an important issue when designing group key distribution systems. This paper systematically studies what can be achieved for the most common measures of protocol complexity. Lower bounds for the total number of messages, the total number of exchanges
Tree-based group key agreement
by Yongdae Kim, Adrian Perrig, Gene Tsudik - ACM Transactions on Information and System Security , 2004
"... Abstract. Secure and reliable group communication is an active area of research. Its popularity is caused by the growing importance of group-oriented and collaborative applications. The central research challenge is secure and efficient group key management. While centralized methods are often appro ..."
Abstract. Secure and reliable group communication is an active area of research. Its popularity is caused by the growing importance of group-oriented and collaborative applications. The central research challenge is secure and efficient group key management. While centralized methods are often
Random key predistribution schemes for sensor networks
by Haowen Chan, Adrian Perrig, Dawn Song - IN PROCEEDINGS OF THE 2003 IEEE SYMPOSIUM ON SECURITY AND PRIVACY , 2003
"... Key establishment in sensor networks is a challenging problem because asymmetric key cryptosystems are unsuitable for use in resource constrained sensor nodes, and also because the nodes could be physically compromised by an adversary. We present three new mechanisms for key establishment using the ..."
Key establishment in sensor networks is a challenging problem because asymmetric key cryptosystems are unsuitable for use in resource constrained sensor nodes, and also because the nodes could be physically compromised by an adversary. We present three new mechanisms for key establishment using
A Key-Management Scheme for Distributed Sensor Networks
by Laurent Eschenauer, Virgil D. Gligor - In Proceedings of the 9th ACM Conference on Computer and Communications Security , 2002
"... Distributed Sensor Networks (DSNs) are ad-hoc mobile networks that include sensor nodes with limited computation and communication capabilities. DSNs are dynamic in the sense that they allow addition and deletion of sensor nodes after deployment to grow the network or replace failing and unreliable ..."
nodes. DSNs may be deployed in hostile areas where communication is monitored and nodes are subject to capture and surreptitious use by an adversary. Hence DSNs require cryptographic protection of communications, sensorcapture detection, key revocation and sensor disabling. In this paper, we present a
A public key cryptosystem and a signature scheme based on discrete logarithms
by Taher Elgamal - Adv. in Cryptology, Springer-Verlag , 1985
"... Abstract-A new signature scheme is proposed, together with an imple-mentation of the Diffie-Hellman key distribution scheme that achieves a public key cryptosystem. The security of both systems relies on the difficulty of computing discrete logarithms over finite fields. I. ..."
Abstract-A new signature scheme is proposed, together with an imple-mentation of the Diffie-Hellman key distribution scheme that achieves a public key cryptosystem. The security of both systems relies on the difficulty of computing discrete logarithms over finite fields. I.
A Pairwise Key Pre-Distribution Scheme for Wireless Sensor Networks
by Wenliang Du, Jing Deng, Yunghsiang S. Han, Pramod K. Varshney, Jonathan Katz, Aram Khalili , 2003
"... this paper, we provide a framework in which to study the security of key pre-distribution schemes, propose a new key pre-distribution scheme which substantially improves the resilience of the network compared to previous schemes, and give an in-depth analysis of our scheme in terms of network resili ..."
this paper, we provide a framework in which to study the security of key pre-distribution schemes, propose a new key pre-distribution scheme which substantially improves the resilience of the network compared to previous schemes, and give an in-depth analysis of our scheme in terms of network
Communication-efficient group key agreement
by Yongdae Kim, Adrian Perrig, Gene Tsudik , 2001
"... Abstract Traditionally, research in secure group key agreement focuses on minimizing the computational overhead for cryptographic operations, and minimizing the communication overhead and the number of protocol rounds is of secondary concern. The dramatic increase in computation power that we witnes ..."
Abstract Traditionally, research in secure group key agreement focuses on minimizing the computational overhead for cryptographic operations, and minimizing the communication overhead and the number of protocol rounds is of secondary concern. The dramatic increase in computation power that we
Lightweight causal and atomic group multicast
by Kenneth Birman, Andre Schiper, Pat Stephenson - ACM TRANSACTIONS ON COMPUTER SYSTEMS , 1991
Scalable Protocols for Authenticated Group Key Exchange
by Jonathan Katz, Moti Yung - Advances in Cryptology — Crypto 2003, LNCS
"... We consider the problem of authenticated group key exchange among n parties communicating over an insecure public network. A number of solutions to this problem have been proposed; however, all prior provably-secure solutions do not scale well and, in particular, require O(n) rounds. Our main contri ..."
We consider the problem of authenticated group key exchange among n parties communicating over an insecure public network. A number of solutions to this problem have been proposed; however, all prior provably-secure solutions do not scale well and, in particular, require O(n) rounds. Our main
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1 Secure Broadcasting
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by Ashish Khisti , Student Member , Aslan Tchamkerten , Gregory W. Wornell
12157 Elements of information theory - Cover, Thomas - 2006 (Show Context)
...er of columns. The codewords for message wk in Cj are labeled as u n j1(wk), . . . u n jQ (wk) . j In what follows, whenever typicality is mentioned it is intended to be ε−weak typicality (see, e.g., =-=[19]-=-). The set T(Uj) denotes the set of all sequences that are typical with respect to distribution p(Uj) and the set T(Xj, Uj) denotes the set of all jointly typical sequences (xn j , unj ) with respect ...
3463 New directions in cryptography - DIFFIE, HELLMAN - 1976 (Show Context)
... that only users who have access to the decryption key could view it. Indeed, in the absence of such a mechanism, current solutions rely on variants of traditional public key cryptography (see, e.g., =-=[1]-=-) and are vulnerable to attacks such as piracy [2]. An information theoretic framework for perfect secrecy was developed by Shannon [3], and the problem of broadcasting confidential messages was origi...
2070 Information Theory and Reliable Communication - Gallager - 1968 (Show Context)
...iables ˆ Zkj ∼ N(0, σ 2 π(k+1)j − σ 2 π(k)j) are independent. Since I(Xj; ˆ Yij| ˆ Yej) is a continuous and concave function in p(X) (see Fact 2), we use discretization arguments (see, e.g., Ch. 7 in =-=[20]-=-) to extend Theorem 1 to the Gaussian case C common K,M (P) = max Q M j=1 p(Xj), E[ P M j=1 X2 j ]≤P min i∈{1,2,...,K} M∑ I(Xj; ˆ Yij| ˆ Yej) . (31) Now observe that max p(Xj),E[X 2 j ]≤Pj I(Xj; ˆ Yij...
1468 Fundamentals of Wireless Communication - Tse, Viswanath - 2005
1189 Communication theory of secrecy systems - Shannon - 1949 (Show Context)
...y on variants of traditional public key cryptography (see, e.g., [1]) and are vulnerable to attacks such as piracy [2]. An information theoretic framework for perfect secrecy was developed by Shannon =-=[3]-=-, and the problem of broadcasting confidential messages was originally formulated by Wyner [4]. Wyner considered a special broadcast channel (also known as the wiretap channel): one sender, an intende...
797 R.Laroia, “Opportunistic Beamforming using Dumb Antennas - Viswanath - 2002
740 Broadcast Channels with Confidential Messages - Csiszar, Korner - 1978 (Show Context)
...r and the equivocation at the eavesdropper when the eavesdropper has a degraded channel compared to the intended receiver. This formulation has been generalized for non-degraded broadcast channels in =-=[5]-=-, and applied to Gaussian channels in [6]. While the results for wire-tap channels are rather surprising in that they show that it is possible to achieve a positive rate while keeping the eavesdropper...
651 Order Statistics - David, Nagaraja - 2003 (Show Context)
...ate (88) ∫ ∞ R ≤ log(1 + γ ¯ Pγ) − E[log(1 + min(γ, µ) ¯ Pγ)]pγdγ 0 = E[log(1 + γ ¯ Pγ) − log(1 + min(γ, µ) ¯ Pγ)], and this completes the proof of the upper bound.First note the following. Fact 3 ( =-=[24]-=-): Let V1, V2, . . ., VK, VK+1 be i.i.d. exponential random variables with mean λ and Vmax(K + 1) denotes the largest of these exponential and Vmax(K) the second largest. The joint distribution of (Vm...
575 Capacity of fading channels with channel side information - Goldsmith, Varaiya - 1997 (Show Context)
...we need to resolve the technicality in that the fading channel has continuous valued fading coefficients, while the rate expression in (44) is only for a finite number of parallel channels. Following =-=[22]-=-, our approach is to discretize the continuous valued coefficients and thus create parallel channels, one for each quantized state. The number of parallel channels increases as the quantization become...
359 The Gaussian wiretap channel - Leung-Yan-Cheong, Hellman - 1978 (Show Context)
...r when the eavesdropper has a degraded channel compared to the intended receiver. This formulation has been generalized for non-degraded broadcast channels in [5], and applied to Gaussian channels in =-=[6]-=-. While the results for wire-tap channels are rather surprising in that they show that it is possible to achieve a positive rate while keeping the eavesdropper in near-perfect equivocation, they also ...
321 Broadcast encryption - Fiat, Naor - 1994 (Show Context)
... key could view it. Indeed, in the absence of such a mechanism, current solutions rely on variants of traditional public key cryptography (see, e.g., [1]) and are vulnerable to attacks such as piracy =-=[2]-=-. An information theoretic framework for perfect secrecy was developed by Shannon [3], and the problem of broadcasting confidential messages was originally formulated by Wyner [4]. Wyner considered a ...
301 The wire-tap channel,” Bell Syst - Wyner - 1975 (Show Context)
...tacks such as piracy [2]. An information theoretic framework for perfect secrecy was developed by Shannon [3], and the problem of broadcasting confidential messages was originally formulated by Wyner =-=[4]-=-. Wyner considered a special broadcast channel (also known as the wiretap channel): one sender, an intended receiver, and one eavesdropper. He characterized the tradeoff between the rate to the intend...
200 On the Secrecy Capacity of Fading Channels - Gopala, Lai, et al. - 2008 (Show Context)
...ecently, the case of discrete memoryless parallel channels with one receiver and one eavesdropper has been studied in [10], [11]. The wiretap setting has been also studied for fading channels in [12]–=-=[14]-=-. All these works consider the setup of one sender, one receiver, and one eavesdropper. There is also a vast literature on multiuser diversity in broadcast channels with independent messages starting ...
198 Optimal power allocation over parallel gaussian broadcast channels - Tse - 1997
185 Secure Communication over Fading Channels - Liang, Poor, et al. - 2008 (Show Context)
...rks, the Gaussian wiretap channel was extended to parallel channels in [9]. More recently, the case of discrete memoryless parallel channels with one receiver and one eavesdropper has been studied in =-=[10]-=-, [11]. The wiretap setting has been also studied for fading channels in [12]–[14]. All these works consider the setup of one sender, one receiver, and one eavesdropper. There is also a vast literatur...
110 Secrecy capacity of wireless channels - Barros, Rodrigues - 2006
86 Secret Communication using artificial noise - Negi, Goel - 2005 (Show Context)
...ore recently, the case of discrete memoryless parallel channels with one receiver and one eavesdropper has been studied in [10], [11]. The wiretap setting has been also studied for fading channels in =-=[12]-=-–[14]. All these works consider the setup of one sender, one receiver, and one eavesdropper. There is also a vast literature on multiuser diversity in broadcast channels with independent messages star...
59 Secrecy capacity of independent parallel channels - Li, Yates, et al. - 2006 (Show Context)
...he Gaussian wiretap channel was extended to parallel channels in [9]. More recently, the case of discrete memoryless parallel channels with one receiver and one eavesdropper has been studied in [10], =-=[11]-=-. The wiretap setting has been also studied for fading channels in [12]–[14]. All these works consider the setup of one sender, one receiver, and one eavesdropper. There is also a vast literature on m...
28 On a special class of broadcast channels with confidential messages - Dijk - 1997 (Show Context)
...n the upper bound derivation but, also, in other subsequent proofs. Fact 2: For any random variables X, Y , and Z the quantity I(X; Y |Z) is concave in p(X). The proof is implicit in the arguments in =-=[18]-=-. We provide it in Appendix I for completeness. Suppose there exists a sequence of (n, 2 nR ) codes such that, for every ε > 0, as n → ∞ Pr(W = ˆ Wi) ≤ ε, i = 1, 2, . . .K 1 n I(W; Y n e1, . . .,Y n ...
22 A coding theorem for secret sharing communication systems with two Gaussian wiretap channels - Yamamoto - 1991 (Show Context)
...d as the wiretap analog of the multiuser diversity results in settings without secrecy constraint (see, e.g., [8]). In related works, the Gaussian wiretap channel was extended to parallel channels in =-=[9]-=-. More recently, the case of discrete memoryless parallel channels with one receiver and one eavesdropper has been studied in [10], [11]. The wiretap setting has been also studied for fading channels ...
21 El Gamal. Capacity of the product and sum of two unmatched broadcast channels - A - 1980 (Show Context)
...it to the strongest user on each parallel channel and use independent codebooks across the channels. Our results for the parallel broadcast channels can be viewed as generalizations of the results in =-=[7]-=- which considers a similar setup without the presence of an eavesdropper. Our study on parallel channels provides insights to the problem of broadcasting confidential messages over fading channels. In...
16 Optimal power allocation for parallel broadcast channels with independent and common information - Jindal, Goldsmith - 2004 (Show Context)
...stems. As discussed before, the case of a common message has received much less attention in the literature. The problem of transmitting a common message on parallel channels has been studied in [7], =-=[17]-=- but we are not aware of a general treatment of this problem for fading channels (without an eavesdropper). We hope that the secrecy constraint creates renewed interest in the study of common message ...
10 Secure broadcasting with multiuser diversity,” presented at - Khisti, Tchamkerten, et al. - 2006 (Show Context)
...-F. V. FADING CHANNELS The second part of this paper considers wireless fading channels. The case of one receiver and one eavesdropper has been recently studied in a number of recent works [10]–[14], =-=[21]-=-. The proposed schemes adapt the transmission power and/or rate depending on the instantaneous channel conditions. The time varying nature of the fading channel enables secure transmission even when t...
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Moving On Two Wheels in New York City
By Raymond Yeung / 07.23.12
On a sunny sunday morning, near New York City’s Intrepid Museum, the Hudson Greenway is filled with cruise ship patrons, joggers, and cyclists of varying speeds.
The path feels narrow given the swelling volume of traffic on a picture perfect weekend, especially with summer cruise ships filling the pier. But this is only one section of the Hudson path; the greenway stretches uninterrupted, roughly from the southern tip of the island all the way to the northern tip. There are many amenities alongside the path to keep people entertained, a far cry from what you would have seen just a decade ago when most of the city’s waterfront was in ruins, filled with garbage and unrecognizable faltered structures.
The development alongside Hudson has been a huge success, renewing land and creating open green spaces for all.
Currently, the city is rapidly extending the ambitious path to circle the entire Manhattan island. A costly and huge undertaking — yet worthy, considering the trends. This is especially good news to cyclists and people interested in taking advantage of the waterfront.
Summer Streets is a NYC program that closes some 50 blocks of city streets to cars. Bicycles and pedestrians rule. (photo: Raymond Yeung | sociecity)
The Hudson Greenway turned out to be quite popular, and this should be viewed as a sign that good public land development does not mean simply adding ‘nice features’ to already wealthy parts of the city.
Still, even the casual observer will find New York to be in dire need of more cycling infrastructure. New York is already home to the most cycled bridges in North America, and successes like these are indicators that should serve as momentum for further developments.
It took New York years to realize that, apparently people want to move around freely, and preferably not in bumper to bumper traffic, and for some, not even air conditioned subway cars. In just the past two years, the city has aggressively added varying degrees of cycling infrastructure and hundreds of miles of bike lanes, with an even bigger ambition yet still looming.
Hidden Dangers
Among the most recent additions is the 8th Avenue bike lane. Like others, it puts the cyclist on the left most lane of a one way avenue. The lane is cushioned by some three feet of paint on the ground, dictating the area when cars are meant to park. While the design seemes logical and perhaps fitting at first glance, a test drive of the lanes reveals many life threatening hidden dangers.
Unlike some of the other lanes — 1st Ave or 9th Ave — the 8th Ave lane does not have dedicated light signals for turing vehicles nor for the cyclist. While the surprise of an opening door is highly reduced — this danger makes up for over half cycling related accidents in the city — the highest risk of injury or death still comes from vehicular impact.
The Left Hook as it is sometimes referred to, is a concern at every other block.
The other risk for any bike lanes users comes from pedestrians who find it so irresistibly fitting to dash into the lane without looking, while texting, walking a dog, jogging with headphones pumping full volume; on top of all that, imagine delivery bikes zipping the wrong way, sideways, whichever way they feel like, hundreds of delivery vehicles and other irresponsible drivers making a “quick stop,” then throw in street vendors and random garbage and the bicycle lanes are perhaps only a bit safer than not having them.
Why So Fast?
The big ambition — and soon to be reality — for the city is a massive bike share program. Whenever there is a bike share program being developed, fantastic images of European cities with overjoyed cyclists can be found. But is it particle to apply small-town-Europe ideas to main-street-America? While New York’s traffic chaos is not comparable to say, New Delhi, there are still substantial consequences to consider. In a city of 8 million, can the same stretch of road, butchered into genres of traffic, alleviate said traffic and protect the weaker, slower moving all at the same time?
New York’s bike share program is soon to be available, planned for late July, though it has already been delayed. The CitiBank sponsored project will bring some 600 share stations into Manhattan and some parts of Brooklyn and Queens. Skeptics have criticized the seemingly hastily put together project as adding congestion to an already crowded city. But Mayor Bloomberg — who has been a huge supporter of just about anything that will improve health — argued that not only will the program promote good health, but it will also lower congestion and pollution, a win-win for city planning, and for slowing the damage to our environment.
In the days leading up to the program’s due date, many major avenues have seen a seemingly overnight metamorphosis, with twenty-block long streets being repaved, painted and remodeled for dedicated bike paths in just under one week.
The Outer Boroughs
It would seem that the focus has traditionally been placed in Manhattan; the rest of the city, although they make deposits to the city’s coffers, are left with nothing. Conventional thinking tells people that government is more likely to allocate resource to the wealthy than the poor, but the trend is changing. The reality is, the poor are vastly larger in number than rich, so to speak, and screwing over the average person always ends up costing society in the long run, as they must be helped after the damage is done. Costly health care reform is one recent example of this phenomenon.
Jackson Heights Pedestrian Plaza in Queens, New York (photo: Raymond Yeung | sociecity)
Recently, I had a chance to wander though parts of Queens, and was presently surprised to find a small street permanently turned into a pedestrian plaza with wide cycling lanes. This was in the heart of Jackson Heights, where folks on bikes are either without cars, or delivering food. It’s a small sign, but a sure sign that the powers in charge are willing to invest in all communities for the good of all.
It is clear that whatever anyone thinks, the city — and perhaps America — is heading into a greener future. One that is continuously being challenged by powerful interest groups and lobbying, whether it be from taxi drivers or car loving citizens. However divided the opinions are though, it is certain that we need to change our current trend of vehicular reliance.
The rest of the world took their models of urban planning from America, and perhaps it’s time again for America and its citizens to remind the world what great things can be accomplished when we work together for a greener, safer, environment for all.
Tags: bicycles, feature, Hudson, infrastructure, New York City, NYC, pedestrians, Queens, safety, Summer Streets, two wheels, urbanism
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The First Friday celebration on December 7th in downtown Gadsden will see the return of an event started two years ago to bring folks downtown-the Coosa Christmas Boat Parade!
The boat parade, being presented by the Neely Henry Lake Association and sponsored by the City of Gadsden, Downtown Gadsden, Inc., and Greater Gadsden Area Tourism, will take place in conjunction with the First Friday activities, which begin at 5:00 p.m.
“We had a great turnout last year, especially in the number of spectators,” said Hugh Stump III, executive director for Greater Gadsden Area Tourism.
The boats will assemble at the Jack L. Ray Family Park on River Road underneath the I-759 bridge at 5 p.m. and at 530 p.m. will parade north up the Coosa to downtown Gadsden, under the three bridges, and circle back to the park to disperse. New this year are cash prizes for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place for the Best Decorated Boat. There are no entry fees, but boats must register and sign a waiver to be considered an official participant in the parade. Please call 256-490-5959 for info on how to register.
Prime viewing locations would include the Ray Family Park, the Coosa Boardwalk on Hwy 411 across from Moragne Park, the lawn of City Hall, Coosa Landing boat docks and Riverwalk Park at Coosa Landing. Bleachers will be provided at City Hall as part of the First Friday Christmas Tree lighting ceremony at 5:30 p.m.
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Roland DG Unveils Its First 3D Printer and a New Milling Machine
Roland DG Corporation has announced the release of the monoFab series, including the company’s first 3D additive rapid prototyping machine, the ARM-10, and a new 3D subtractive prototyping and manufacturing machine, the SRM-20.
“The monoFab series desktop fabrication solutions are the culmination of over 25 years of experience in 3D milling and the company’s first foray into 3D printing,” said Akio Kawai, Roland DG general manager of 3D market development. “By combining the merits of each device, users can select the best method for their workflow every step of the way, from inspiration to production. With no limits to production methods, ideas can expand to their fullest potential and new possibilities in innovation can be realised. We hope the monoFab series tools will inspire those who wish to create the future and explore all their creative abilities.”
The ARM-10 3D printer is ideal for quickly checking a design in the initial stage of prototyping or modelling a complex shape. Incorporating a stereo-lithography process with a UV-LED projection system, the ARM-10 builds models by sequentially curing layers of resin from a liquid resin vat. Simultaneous production of multiple objects can be accomplished within the same work area, reducing modelling time when compared to methods where lasers expose specific areas. Roland’s imageCure resin becomes semi-transparent when cured and post-processing procedures such as support* removal and polishing are simple to do. By adopting a suspended build system, resin consumption is minimised.
Taking advantage of more than 25 years of Roland DG experience in manufacturing 3D devices, the evolutionary SRM-20 desktop milling machine incorporates several innovative subtractive rapid prototyping (SRP) features to meet the needs of a new era. The SRM-20’s strengths lie in providing outstanding accuracy and smooth finished surfaces. With its new milling spindle, collet, circuit board and firmware, the SRM-20 delivers maximum speed and precision while retaining a compact desktop size. The SRM-20 can mill a variety of non-proprietary materials typically used for prototyping, including modelling board, acrylic, ABS, wood and modelling wax, making it possible to check the weight and feel of models using the same material properties as the final production. An interlocked full cover prevents dust from escaping during milling for safe operation and clean environment.
For ultimate peace of mind, both the ARM-10 and SRM-20 come with a 1 year UK RolandCare warranty.
To find out more visit www.rolanddg.co.uk/monofab
*These temporary parts provide support in order to prevent deformities or drops occurring during layering and are removed upon completion.
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pre-school Archive
EuroKids wins Pre-School Franchisor of the Year Award
By Chawm Ganguly
Mumbai, 14th November, 2017: EuroKids Pre-School, one of India’s leading early childcare education providers has been awarded with ‘Pre-School Franchisor of The Year‘ honor in the premier edition of Business World Education’s Top Education Brands In India 2017. Mr. Prajodh Rajan, Co-Founder and CEO of EuroKids International, received this award on behalf of the
Serial Entrepreneur Collaborate with Artists & Storytellers to create BULBUL Apps for Pre-School kids worldwide
HYDERABD, INDIA, October 3, 2015: Hyderabad based Filmmaker and Serial Entrepreneur Prakash Dantuluri today announced the launch of Tuk-Tuk in Mumbai (a kids-travel app, first in its series) and expansion of Bulbul apps Library for Pre-School children a digital Fun-filled learning destination Parents can trust. Every app is interactive and encourages child’s curiosity, reading
Vandana Gandhi becomes the first Indian woman to receive Dubai Government excellence award for her consistent contribution in the pre-school education space
Pre-school chain keen on starting India operations soon First company in the schooling sector, led and managed by 100% women workforce honored for its excellence, innovation and contribution to UAE’s economic development Nursery’s “Child for Child” program supports orphans in India and internationally 12th June, 2015: Ms. Vandana Gandhi, Founder and CEO
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correctional security
Wayne County Jail Project Under New Guidance
July 19, 2016 July 26, 2016 1795 Views Connecticut Department of Correction, correctional security, Dr. Tim Hynes, Eastern U.S., EYP, Gold Standard program management, Kevin Kuntz, Messer Construction Co. pediatric center, Omaha
Top Project: Broward County Courthouse Nears Completion
May 18, 2016 May 25, 2016 1632 Views Boise State University, California Title 24 Energy Standards, correctional security, Eastern U.S., Gen7 CHPS PreFAB, Human Rights Campaign Foundation, Niagara Falls justice complex, Veterans Health Administration
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla.
San Luis Obispo Women’s Jail to Debut March 2017
April 6, 2016 April 20, 2016 1626 Views correctional security, Handel Architects, ICU Liberation, The Society of Critical Care Medicine, Western U.S.
SAN LUIS OBISPO, Calif. — Construction on the much-anticipated San Luis Obispo County women’s jail broke ground in February 2014 and is well underway for a March 2017 opening.
LA County Restarts Jail Construction, Plans for Reentry Facility
August 19, 2015 1558 Views Cerami & Associates, correctional security, innovation center, ranchers, SB 1085, Western U.S.
LOS ANGELES — On Aug. 11, Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors ordered staff to look into creating a $120 million Office of Diversion and Reentry and approved an amendment to restart construction of a 3,885-bed downtown Los Angeles jail as well as approved continued work on a new 1,604-bed women’s jail in Lancaster.
LA County Officials Delay Jail Plan
July 1, 2015 1188 Views correctional security, Interstate Renewable Energy Council, New Marion County Jail, SB 1085, SouthBuild, Western U.S.
LOS ANGELES — The Los Angeles County Jail Plan — a major effort to replace the Men’s Central Jail with the Consolidated Correctional Treatment Center and to renovate the Mira Loma Detention Facility — was delayed on June 9. While Los Angeles County officials unveiled the Men’s Central Jail plan at the June 9 meeting, they also voted to halt work on all pending jail projects for 45 days while reassessing the number of beds needed at the new facility.
Long Beach Courthouse Named Best Public Project
May 21, 2014 May 21, 2014 2096 Views Cassidy Ellis, correctional security, Frank Jesse, Video medical interpretation technology, Western U.S.
LONG BEACH, Calif. — The project team that designed the Governor George Deukmejian Courthouse in Long Beach earned the Los Angeles Business Journal’s Commercial Real Estate Award for the 2014 Best Public Project earlier this year.
Sundt Begins Second Phase of Pima County Court Facility
November 27, 2013 December 4, 2013 1311 Views correctional security, Venezuela National Guard, Venezuela prison system, Ventura County Medical Center, Western U.S.
TUCSON, Ariz. — Sundt Construction Inc. transitioned into the second phase of construction on the Pima County Downtown Court Complex in Tucson in August.
Broward County Courthouse to Open in 2015
July 17, 2013 July 31, 2013 1390 Views AIA National Healthcare Design Awards, correctional security, Eastern U.S., Human Rights Campaign Foundation, James T. Powers, Niagara Falls justice complex, UCLA Outpatient Surgery and Oncology Center, Veterans Health Administration
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. — A large-scale construction project is underway to create an efficient, flexible design with an ageless aesthetic appeal for longevity for the new Broward County Courthouse in Fort Lauderdale.
Local and National Firms Partner on New $300M Regional Jail
April 16, 2012 April 16, 2012 1394 Views capital punishment, correctional security, Gov. Dannel P. Malloy, Hill International, LEED Platinum, Private Prison, Rikers Island
DETROIT — When Wayne County Sheriff Benny Napoleon was appointed in 2009, he and his executive team analyzed operations and determined the sheriff’s office could reap significant financial savings by consolidating its three existing jails.
Ahead of its Time: New High-Rise Criminal Court Designed to Safely Handle High-Volume Caseloads
February 29, 2012 March 1, 2012 1425 Views correctional security, Digital wayfinding, Facility of the Month Nov/Dec 2004, Greg J. Offner, Hillsboro, Juvenile facilities, Kansas City, St. Luke's
Maricopa County, Ariz., is the fourth largest county in the nation — and its rising number of court cases is a testament to that. From 2000 to 2008, the number of criminal cases went from 26,000 to more than 41,000. More than 56,000 criminal cases are expected to be ongoing by 2016.
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On Powerpoint
Thread: On Powerpoint
This is the best thing I've read all week:
Every year, the services spend millions of dollars teaching our people how to think. We invest in everything from war colleges to noncommissioned officer schools. Our senior schools in particular expose our leaders to broad issues and historical insights in an attempt to expose the complex and interactive nature of many of the decisions they will make.
Unfortunately, as soon as they graduate, our people return to a world driven by a tool that is the antithesis of thinking: PowerPoint. Make no mistake, PowerPoint is not a neutral tool — it is actively hostile to thoughtful decision-making. It has fundamentally changed our culture by altering the expectations of who makes decisions, what decisions they make and how they make them. While this may seem to be a sweeping generalization, I think a brief examination of the impact of PowerPoint will support this statement.
Schmedlap
Nice. I've never been a fan of his 4GW theory, but this PowerPoint rebuke is great. Can we get this in slide format?
Finally, what we all instinctively knew to be true has been broken down by the numbers and explained in a methodical, detailed rebuke by someone who once wore rank on his collars that many of us associated with an inability to think rationally or use common sense. I wonder if anyone will listen.
I have long held that we should make bootlegged copies of PowerPoint available to al-Qaeda and give them free computers and projectors to use it, so that their internal processes can be crippled as much as ours have.
However, I also agree with Hammes narrow points about how PowerPoint can also be useful. That is generally the only means that I have ever employed slides for (unless ordered to do otherwise). I've always used slides in the same way that one would use an instructional video or supplemented an oral brief with charts and tables in the same way that one would supplement a research paper with charts and tables. Making the slides the focus of the presentation generally occurs when the speaker has nothing worthwhile to say - unfortunately, slides usually are the focus.
Is the process or tool screwed up ?
More verbosely,
Is the tool (PowerPoint) the problem; or is the process (one hammer wielder striking all the nails on his floor - and all the nails on the floors below) the problem ?
(from TXH)
The last point, how we make decisions, is the most obvious. Before PowerPoint, staffs prepared succinct two- or three-page summaries of key issues. The decision-maker would read a paper, have time to think it over and then convene a meeting with either the full staff or just the experts involved to discuss the key points of the paper. Of course, the staff involved in the discussion would also have read the paper and had time to prepare to discuss the issues. In contrast, today, a decision-maker sits through a 20-minute PowerPoint presentation followed by five minutes of discussion and then is expected to make a decision. Compounding the problem, often his staff will have received only a five-minute briefing from the action officer on the way to the presentation and thus will not be well-prepared to discuss the issues. This entire process clearly has a toxic effect on staff work and decision-making.
PowerPoint has clearly decreased the quality of the information provided to the decision-maker, but the damage doesn’t end there. It has also changed the culture of decision-making. In my experience, pre-PowerPoint staffs prepared two to four decision papers a day because that’s as many as most bosses would accept. These would be prepared and sent home with the decision-maker and each staff member that would participate in the subsequent discussion. Because of the tempo, most decision-makers did not take on more than three or four a day simply because of the requirement to read, absorb, think about and then be prepared to discuss the issue the following day. As an added benefit for most important decisions, they “slept on it.”
PowerPoint has changed that. Key decision-makers’ days are now broken down into one-hour and even 30-minute segments that are allocated for briefs. Of particular concern, many of these briefs are decision briefs. Thus senior decision-makers are making more decisions with less preparation and less time for thought. Why we press for quick decisions when those decisions will take weeks or even months to simply work their way through the bureaucracy at the top puzzles me. One of the critical skills in decision making is making the decision cycle and method appropriate to the requirements. If a decision takes weeks or months to implement and will be in effect for years, then a more thoughtful process is clearly appropriate.
This brings me to the third major concern with PowerPoint’s impact on our decision process: Who makes the decisions? Because the PowerPoint culture allows decision-makers to schedule more briefs per day, many type-A personalities seek to do so. Most organizations don’t need more decisions made at higher levels. But to find more decisions to make, a type-A leader has to reach down to lower levels to find those decisions. The result is the wrong person is making decisions at the wrong level.
Is the last sentence the crux of the problem ?
Where (if at all) do the people who have to execute the decision fit into the process which TXH describes ?
It will also steal your girlfriend
PowerPoint might facilitate the micro-manager's task, but doesn't create micro-managers where they didn't exist before. I was a bit perplexed at that point. The fault may be mine.
I wonder if the author really does hold PowerPoint accountable for the wrongs of its users, or is merely being more circumspect (another trait of the military professional) than others would (me, f'rinstance) given the opportunity.
Last edited by Greyhawk; 07-13-2009 at 03:51 AM.
Read in old man voice:
Here's one he missed: within two weeks of a "problem" being identified (particularly if in the major media) you could bet every man woman and child in service will have viewed a PowerPoint presentation on the topic, as group or individually via email (talk about bandwidth abuse...). Problem solved!
But I come neither to praise or condemn the brief, rather to acknowledge its necessary evil...
Hammes is on target, but also cursing a hammer for people using it as a screwdriver. That's his choice of approach, a cautious one that avoids (beyond implying) placing blame where due. Much of what he describes (too many slides, too much data crammed onto one slide, etc.) is a mark of a bad briefer. From my experience, you could get away with that once. (The initial fault would lie with your boss, if he were between the briefer and the guy at the head of the table in the chain of command - and normally that's the case. But I digress...) And if 100% of the information shared is included in the briefing slides (vice "read aheads" or other more comprehensive documents) then again we have a problem for which PowerPoint is not to blame. Certainly if the problem persists (other than in the case of the occasional "rookie" briefer sent to learn a lesson 'the hard way') beyond a given commander's first few weeks in office (also when template, fonts, and background color are established) we must consider the staff itself at fault.
My career began in the days of paper flip charts and overhead projectors - we don't want to go back. The woes of the PowerPoint ranger are real, but they precede the advent of the tool that (used properly - and it often is) reduces the burden.
If you really want to talk about a time-saving technological advancement that has quadrupled our workload and made ten things more difficult for every one simplified, let's discuss email. It's much easier now to make 10,000 people jump through hoops; the hoops themselves are unchanged.
Come to think of it, I served through the advent of the computer era, and can assure you while we're better off with them we have yet to figure out a way to use them to reduce workload. The opposite has occurred, certainly to the dismay of we then-young and naive fools who saw a brighter future ('89: / '99: / '09: ) Perhaps there are other great technological advancements for which this is equally (or as cruelly) true. But the technology is not to blame.
There were earlier programs, but for simplification this is how they were greeted "in the office":
Right: "Gosh, this Word program sure is a huge step up from the typewriter!"
Right: "Gosh, this PowerPoint program sure is a huge step up from overhead slides and erasable markers!"
Wrong: "Gosh,this PowerPoint program sure is a step up from a typewriter!"
Item three is wrong, but that does not make PowerPoint wrong. However, too many people accept item three as Gospel. Sadly, it isn't completely wrong, and that by itself would justify its continued misuse. Consider also that if a person who saw it as "right" or "good enough" was of sufficient rank, then it was indeed Gospel and couldn't possibly be wrong and certainly not from the POV of someone below. It was hardly an issue worth falling on one's sword - I mean that sincerely. Those young parish priests are now Bishops and Cardinals, and the Dogma is entrenched. (Incorporated in the larger scripture of staffwork as the pain that must periodically be quietly endured. Thou shalt sit in thy corner and color thy slides.)
The new Parish Priests are "digital natives", their unfamiliarity with the typewriter or the overhead slide gives me no hope they'll necessarily set things to right. (Though I'm not entirely without hope, they may indeed "discover" something that makes sense.)
Another layer of irony is that now one can fairly easily incorporate images in Word documents - and color printers (if hardcopy required) are the rule rather than the exception (excluding some tactical environments), but PowerPoint is still often used as substitute for a typewriter. Hammes is (correctly but IMHO circuitously) pointing all this out.
A last depressing thought - for a few years there were places where things were done right, but standardization and networked systems are quickly making them a thing of the past. (I'm probably well beyond the discussion of PowerPoint here...)
Originally Posted by Greyhawk
I'd also argue that it prevents our generals from practicing "generalship." Before e-mail our bosses relied on briefs to gather their situational awareness and CONOPs/decision briefs on how to progress. It meant the staff were staff and doing the required work to ensure their boss was on the ball. Now my boss gets into work before light and goes home well after dark (often to log in remotely) and spends his days slaving over Outlook because everyone inside and outside is AOR sends him everything they think he should be clued into. It results in him making decisions and doing the staff work via outlook rather than through an informed staff process.
Some would argue that this is a good thing ... no staff to get in the road. I would counter that it means that the staff is continually playing catch-up or (even worse) finding other things to do to occupy its time.
If I was king for the day I'd disable every GO's e-mail account and let them get back to doing what they are getting paid for ... considering informed recommendations and making decisions.
We are indeed doomed
Originally Posted by Spud
Now my boss gets into work before light and goes home well after dark
...and should he awake in the middle of the 4-hour night, BLACKBERRY!!!
Consider too: how many man-hours (I know, sexist) are wasted while X# people wait a half hour for the boss to finish a couple more hot emails (from his boss!!) before joining the group? I actually did have a private sit-down discussion with my boss on that topic once. Times five days a week X eternity it really adds up.
Greyhawk,
I agree with a lot of your points, but the article came across to me as a criticism of how powerpoint is used and not the program itself. As an intel guys who began with viewgraphs, MTF message traffic and thought "Harvard Graphics" was high-tech, I understand where you're coming from. Using the tool properly is key and I agree with pretty much everything the author says about its misuse.
COL Larry Sellin's Swan Song Screed
Warning : clear all liquids from your work station before proceeding and for Heaven's sake, don't have a mouthful of anything. That is all.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/0...7c999aee45ba,1
For headquarters staff, war consists largely of the endless tinkering with PowerPoint slides to conform with the idiosyncrasies of cognitively challenged generals in order to spoon-feed them information. Even one tiny flaw in a slide can halt a general’s thought processes as abruptly as a computer system’s blue screen of death.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmjHT5GpAYQ
Last edited by AdamG; 03-03-2011 at 01:24 PM. Reason: nb : unintended published rants are sort of bloggy, hence the location here
stanleywinthrop
Next month, IJC will attempt a giant leap for mankind. In a first-of-its-kind effort, IJC will embed a new stovepipe into an already existing stovepipe. The rationale for this bold move resides in the fact that an officer, who is currently without one, needs a staff of 35 people to create a big splash before his promotion board
That is one of the more unorthodox letters of resignation I've seen.
It makes me wonder if the good Colonel broke the teacup too -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRPDO63rI1E
He'd better hope his plane home doesn't do a left turn into Gitmo.
"Your new name in Number Six...."
Eversti Sellin's flight
took a right turn ... to Helsinki.
That is where one of his op-ed outlets (Ilta-Sanomat) has had much the same content as his UPI columns - source: our Man in Helsinki , charlylsp, Finnish language blog by Col. Sellin.
His 64 columns for UPI, start 13 Mar 2004 (1st Astan column, 28 Sep 2004). His columns from the month before and the month of the sack (his 2d Astan tour) seem rational enough.
Afghanistan status check
KABUL, Afghanistan, July 8 (UPI) -- I have been in-country about one week, enough time for some initial impressions.
Cynical thoughts about Afghanistan
KABUL, Afghanistan, July 15 (UPI) -- Will the epitaph of the war in Afghanistan be motion without progress and knowledge without wisdom?
Afghanistan's tribal trouble
KABUL, Afghanistan, July 22 (UPI) -- Former CIA Director Richard Helms counseled that when dealing with societies in and around the Middle East, pay attention to the things that are hundreds of years old -- the religious sects, the clans, the tribes.
Battle of Barg-e-Matal
KABUL, Afghanistan, July 29 (UPI) -- If the battle of Barg-e-Matal ever goes down in history, I am not sure if it will be treated as a victory or a defeat or a tragedy or a comedy.
Is Pakistan the enemy in Afghanistan?
KABUL, Afghanistan, Aug. 5 (UPI) -- Each day between 25 and 50 Afghan civilians, Afghan, coalition and American soldiers are wounded or killed by the Taliban.
North, the new front in the Afghan war
KABUL, Afghanistan, Aug. 12 (UPI) -- A recently released U.N. report states that 1,271 Afghans died and 1,997 were injured in the first six months of this year. Three-quarters of these casualties were caused by Taliban forces, mostly from roadside bombings.
Afghanistan’s last, best hope
KABUL, Afghanistan, Aug. 19 (UPI) -- The real enemy in Afghanistan is reactionary leadership represented by corrupt politicians, ruthless warlords and the twisted religious extremism of the Taliban.
Colonel (Eversti) Sellin would not get along well with the detained folks at Gitmo (from the "Battle-of-Barg-e-Matal" piece):
The immediate task is to destroy the Taliban's capability to wage an insurgency. That means, first and foremost, to defeat them decisively in the field.
Simultaneously we must isolate them nationalistically, culturally and religiously from the Afghan people. The Taliban are invaders and murderers, who are religious extremists, who don't respect Afghan tribal traditions and who possess foreign pan-Islamic ambitions not in tune with the needs and desires of the Afghan people.
(and from the "North, the new front in the Afghan war" piece):
The Taliban has also continued its practice of carrying out brutal atrocities against civilians. They claimed responsibility for killing members of a civilian medical team in the remote, northeastern province of Badakhshan, which has, until recently, been a relatively peaceful area.
At about the same time, in the northwestern province of Badghis, the Taliban killed a 47-year-old pregnant widow accused of adultery. She was flogged 200 times and then shot in the head. The man responsible for impregnating her was apparently not punished. ... (much more in article)
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Gunmen attack Fort Hood, Texas
Thread: Gunmen attack Fort Hood, Texas
11-17-2009 #121
Originally Posted by Boondoggle
Call it 4GW, whatever, but that military courtroom, and the press, will become another battlefield in this war. Using our very own cherished institutions of a right to a fair trial and freedom of speech to wage war upon their very foundations. I worried this could become all kinds of worse, and we're one step closer to that it appears.
Boondoggle, to continue with your Line of reasoning, I think you will really see this happen with the upcoming trial in New York. Since the whole city was affected by 911 it is going to be near impossible to find an impartial jury and I imagine his lawyers who will wage Lawfare will bring that up right from the start.
MikeF
Originally Posted by slapout9
You're assuming that he will plead not guilty. Putting on my jihad hat, I'd plead guilty b/c I knew my means justified the ends. That goes for Maj Hasan and the 9/11 clowns.
Senate faults Army, FBI for missing signs before Ft Hood attack
The full WaPo title was 'Senate probe faults Army, FBI for missing warning signs before Fort Hood attack':http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...020301899.html
For an outsider I noted these points:
..the FBI had compelling evidence of extremism that should have led to Hasan's military discharge and made him the subject of a counterterrorism investigation....higher-ups wrote his officer evaluation reports in a way that "sanitized his obsession with violent Islamist extremism into praiseworthy research on counterterrorism."
And for the lawyers:
Hasan's attorney, reacted to the latest report with outrage, saying the FBI and the Pentagon continue supplying e-mails and personnel files for such investigations but have withheld them from Hasan's defense in the course of the legal discovery process.
The report itself:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...l?hpid=topnews
Which one day I may read in full.
Solely in answer to your question regarding discovery by defendants under the UCMJ.
1. The UCMJ has liberal (pro-defendant) discovery provisions which are comparable to those under the Federal or Michigan Criminal Rules.
2. That being said, the defense lawyer has to ask in the correct way under the applicable law.
A good outline of UCMJ discovery and production starts at p.J-1 (p.255 pdf) of the 2010 Crim-Law-Deskbook_V-1.pdf (download link):
DISCOVERY AND PRODUCTION
I. REFERENCES - 1
II. INTRODUCTION - 1
III. GENERAL - 2
IV. GOVERNMENT DISCOVERY RESPONSIBILITIES AND REQUESTS - 3
V. DEFENSE DISCOVERY RESPONSIBILITIES AND REQUESTS - 15
VI. REGULATION OF DISCOVERY - 18
VII. PRODUCTION - 23
VIII. CONCLUSION AND PRACTICE TIPS - 32
IX. APPENDIX - 34
The Appendix outlines the several dozen rules applicable.
All that being true, the USG is an octapus, whose multiple hands do not necessarily communicate. The largest discovery and production problems in the DC District and Circuit Gitmo cases (whose Federal judges have more practical clout than military judges with USG agencies) came about because consolidated databases did not exist for each detainee. The first octapus hand did not know what the eighth hand held.
So, the defense attorney may just be blowing smoke; or, he screwed up (asked the wrong question); or, the FBI and DoD are not communicating well. An intentional failure to disclose (in violation of the UCMJ) is unlikely; though, of course, "possible".
Has a report come out on the shooting itself and the effectiveness of the 5.7x28 round?
Originally Posted by gute
No, but there's one on the ineffectiveness of some officers.
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Nine Army officers are being reprimanded for leadership failures in connection with the shooting rampage at Fort Hood, Texas, and their failure to detect and report problems with the accused shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, as he moved along in his medical career.
Saying that although no single event directly led to the tragedy, Army Secretary John McHugh found that certain officers failed to meet expected standards, an Army statement said Thursday. The officers - all lieutenant or above - will receive punishments ranging from an oral reprimand to the far more serious written letter of censure that is considered a career-ender.
Hasan is charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder in the November 2009 shooting spree on the Texas military post.
A Pentagon review last year found that Hasan's supervisors at Walter Reed Army Medical Center where he worked expressed serious concerns about his questionable behavior and poor judgment but failed to heed their own warnings. It said the Army psychiatrist's supervisors continued to give him positive performance evaluations that kept him moving up through the ranks despite worries about his strident views on Islam and worries about his competence.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...TAM&SECTION=US
There were indications Wednesday morning that Maj. Nidal Hasan’s lawyer could withdraw from his position as lead defense counsel for the man accused of murdering 13 people on Ft. Hood at a pending arraignment hearing.
http://www.kwtx.com/news/headlines/1...8.html?ref=618
To be Bearded or Not ?
In a fractured version of the Dirty Dozen script, the military judge sought to emulate Robert Ryan's character.
AP: Court ousts judge, shaving order in Fort Hood case (4 Dec 2012):
Hasan appealed after Gross ordered that he must be clean-shaven or be forcibly shaved before his military trial, which had been set to begin three months ago. It has been on hold pending the appeals.
An Army appeals court upheld the shaving requirement in October. But Monday, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces said the command, not the judge, is responsible for enforcing grooming standards.
Gross had repeatedly said Hasan's beard was a disruption to the court proceedings, but the military appeals court ruled that there was insufficient evidence to show that was true.
Gross found Hasan in contempt of court at six previous pretrial hearings because he was not clean-shaven, then sent him to a nearby trailer to watch the proceedings on a closed-circuit television. The appeals court's ruling also vacated the contempt of court convictions.
If the defendant wants to appear as a combatant in "God's Army", so what. The evidence needed to convict appears to be more than adequate.
Why do some judges allow themselves to be diverted by collateral issues ? The need to assert their authority, I'd posit - but to what end when justice is delayed ?
Polarbear1605
Lack of command leadership
But Monday, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces said the command, not the judge, is responsible for enforcing grooming standards.
I have to agree with the court on that one...that is a command responsibility and in this case it means the convening authority is not doing their job. The defendent should be ordered to shave and if not, a charge added to the court martial for failure to obey an order from his commanding officer. This is another example of a commander deferring his command responsibility (lack of leadership) to the lawyers.
"If you want a new idea, look in an old book"
Great White Furry One:
I agree with your technical legal reasoning:
The defendent should be ordered to shave and if not, a charge added to the court martial for failure to obey an order from his commanding officer.
and also that, when a commander defers what should be his or her decisions to his or her lawyers, IMO: the lawyers have a fool for a client.
But, you wouldn't seriously prefer a charge for failure to obey a shaving order if you were his CO, would you ?
I mean, the guy is faced with a baker's dozen of death penalty charges. An added charge for failure to obey an order would be meaningless to what happens to him on the capital charges - and would itself be a diversion.
Ironically, this SOB could have avoided the whole shooting spree by simply refusing the order to deploy to a Muslim country (his initial stated reasoning against the deployment order). He then would have been prosecuted for failure to obey an order, where the sentencing guidelines would have been relatively generous.
No, instead he decided to be a jihadist, etc - for reasons that had to go well beyond his initial stated reasoning.
lol...Ah..maybe I would
Agree with everything you say...but I can still complain...right?
First and foremost they need to be talking to one another and it appears they are not. In this case, the judge initiated the issue with the “forced shaving” ultimatum setting off a long delay for the appeal process. Second, if the commanding officer does not have the authority to “force shave” than neither does the military judge. There should have been an immediate after conversation (before would have been better) initiated by the commander/CA with the judge...Subj: WTF!, Over. And OH!..BTW…let me get ahead of the appeal court…your fired, judge.
If I were the commander/CA, I would be very upset about the appeal delay. This multi-murder happened, what, three years ago? Shaving, IMHO, is clearly a command issue getting back to “good order and discipline” command authority. If, I were commander/CA, and I wanted to avoid the appeal delay, I would have either told the judge …to not worry about the beard or I would appear at the brig with both sets of lawyers (defense and prosecution) order this guy to shave and when he refused add a charge. The add the charge part is in case he decided to shave before he appeared at the court martial. Not shaving is not going to help this guy before a sitting court of his peers.
The next reason these two need to be talking is the whole plea bargaining thing that may or may not happen. I cannot recall a plea bargaining paragraph in the UCMJ or the MCM…in my mind that clearly makes plea bargaining a command responsibility.
Another issue is that any finding by a court martial is essentially a recommendation because the commander/CA can accept, reject or modify.
Let’s talk about another case where the CA didn’t do their command job. Yep! Haditha…you knew I had to go there. One of the defendants in the Haditha case was a LT, intell type. The Lt was attached from 2MARDIV (Camp Lejuene) to the 1MARDIV Bn while both were in Iraq. Consequently, the court martial was held by 1MARDIV CA at Camp Pendleton. The LT was basically charge with obstruction of justice because he ordered his E-5 intell chief to destroy a set of photos of the Iraqi dead. He gave this order in accordance with standing orders that no pics of Iraqi dead were authorized and subsequently, found not guilty.
At one point in the pretrial proceedings, the Lt was actually discharged from the Maine Corps by his battalion commander back in Camp Lejeune. The prosecutor immediately added a charge to the Lt’s court martial for illegally discharging himself from the Marines. At the court martial, the defense attorney called the Lt’s 2MARDIV battalion commander and asked him why he discharged the LT. Answer: Because I am required by law to discharge him at the end of his contract. I can, however, place him on legal hold at the request of the CA. The prosecutor never requested or sent a legal hold letter to 2MARDIV. The prosecutor was charging the LT for his mistake. If I were the CA, I would have taken a considerable amount of both the prosecutor’s and judge’s time immediately after the charges were written up.
Commanders are turning their responsibilities over to the lawyers turning many of these show trials into clown schools.
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Ah Bear, a return to the Good Old Days ...
of Tony Waller (of our own) and Daniel Greysolon, sieur du Lhut (of the French Colonial Marines, in the late 1600s in my own UP of Michigan). The latter, in truth (my opinion thereof), did a better job of it than did Waller in a very similar situation. Perhaps, because du Lhut was not burdened with lawyers at all.
In neither case did the "separation of the convening authority and the court-martial" exist - and the commander was solely responsible for whatever decision was reached (even if, as in du Lhut's case, he elected to bring the prosecution before separate military and civilian panels). Brief note:
The last of these nations [JMM: Chippewa, Ojibwe] was especially difficult to manage as was demonstrated in 1684 when four of its warriors murdered two French traders. When one of the culprits appeared at the Jesuit mission of Sault Ste Marie the staff of 12 on duty there did not dare to arrest him, fearing the reprisals of his tribe. Dulhut, as soon as he learned of the incident, hurried to the mission, rounded up the suspects, including the chief Achinaga and his two sons, and put them on trial. Achinaga was acquitted and his younger son pardoned, but the two others who had been found guilty were executed before 400 Indians.
However, we don't live in 1902 or 1684 - even if some of us wouldn't mind returning to some aspects of those eras.
So, in the event(s) today, you as a smart bear (and convening authority) would consult all of the pitfalls of "Undue Command Influence" - attached as pdf - and wouldn't contact judge, counsel or anyone else involved in courts-martial in your command sphere.
THE 10 COMMANDMENTS OF UNLAWFUL COMMAND INFLUENCE
COMMANDMENT 1: THE COMMANDER MAY NOT ORDER A SUBORDINATE TO DISPOSE OF A CASE IN A CERTAIN WAY.
COMMANDMENT 2: THE COMMANDER MUST NOT HAVE AN INFLEXIBLE POLICY ON DISPOSITION OR PUNISHMENT.
COMMANDMENT 3: THE COMMANDER, IF ACCUSER, MAY NOT REFER THE CASE.
COMMANDMENT 4: THE COMMANDER MAY NEITHER SELECT NOR REMOVE COURT MEMBERS IN ORDER TO OBTAIN A PARTICULAR RESULT IN A PARTICULAR TRIAL.
COMMANDMENT 5: NO OUTSIDE PRESSURES MAY BE PLACED ON THE JUDGE OR COURT MEMBERS TO ARRIVE AT A PARTICULAR DECISION.
COMMANDMENT 6: WITNESSES MAY NOT BE INTIMIDATED OR DISCOURAGED FROM TESTIFYING.
COMMANDMENT 7: THE COURT DECIDES PUNISHMENT. AN ACCUSED MAY NOT BE PUNISHED BEFORE TRIAL.
COMMANDMENT 8: COMMANDERS MUST ENSURE THAT SUBORDINATES AND STAFF DO NOT “COMMIT” COMMAND INFLUENCE” ON THEIR BEHALF.
COMMANDMENT 9: THE COMMANDER MUST NOT HAVE AN INFLEXIBLE ATTITUDE TOWARDS CLEMENCY.
COMMANDMENT 10: IF A MISTAKE IS MADE, RAISE THE ISSUE IMMEDIATELY.
BTW: What was your last post - a test of my ability to do basic seamanship on UCI, or what ?
2012 Unlawful Command Influence snip 01.pdf (103.9 KB, 1003 views)
Hasan's Defense - Combatant Immunity ?
From CSM, Why military judge has hands full with Nidal Hasan court-martial (by Patrik Jonsson, June 4, 2013):
After determining that Hasan is mentally and physically fit to defend himself, the military judge, Col. Tara Osborn, is now weighing the extent to which she’ll allow him to pursue his main defense: that he was justified in killing US soldiers about to deploy to Afghanistan to prevent the imminent deaths of Taliban soldiers.
I'd like to see more on this defense - It looks to be some form of RCM 916 justification.
Denver on occasion
If he did that would he be admitting treason?
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again." Gen. Nathanael Greene
I'd say that (admitting treason) would be a definite drawback to the defense.
But, that being said, and all kidding aside, the guy knows he won't "get off" and probably will get a death sentence anyway. So, why not go down in a blaze of Islamist glory - as a warrior for global jihad ?
In essence, that is what KSM and his compatriots expressly stated in 2009 (my 2009 post, KSM's Islamic Response; and their manifesto, “The Islamic Response to the Government’s Nine Accusations”); they sum their argument as follows:
With regards to these nine accusations that you are putting us on trial for; to us, they are not accusations. To us they are badges of honor, which we carry with pride. Many thanks to God, for his kind gesture, and choosing us to perform the act of Jihad for his cause and to defend Islam and Muslims. Therefore, killing you and fighting you, destroying you and terrorizing you, responding back to your attacks, are all considered to be great legitimate duty in our religion. These actions are our offerings to God. In addition, it is the imposed reality on Muslims in Palestine, Lebanon, Afghanistan, Iraq, in the land of the two holy sites [Mecca and Medina, Saudi Arabia], and in the rest of the world, where Muslims are suffering from your brutality, terrorism, killing of the innocent, and occupying their lands and their holy sites. Nevertheless, it would have been the greatest religious duty to fight you over your infidelity. However, today, we fight you over defending Muslims, their land, their holy sites,and their religion as a whole.
The specifics of their argument prove that they consider themselves to be lawful combatants under the only law that counts to them - the Koran. Hague-Geneva are not material to them because those are man-made laws. National citizenship is also immaterial to them because only religious citizenship counts. Zawahiri, UBL and Maj. Hasan's mentor al-Awlaki all made these points very clearly.
So, it is scarcely surprising that Maj. Hasan is trying to follow their playbook.
Candor in the Courtroom, Sans Defense Counsel
CSM: Fort Hood suspect tells court he 'switched sides' in America's war (6 Aug 2013).
Maj. Nidal Hasan, accused of killing 13 soldiers at Fort Hood in 2009, said the evidence will show 'I am the shooter.' The trial will be important, even if the verdict seems certain.
And, the point of dragging this on for months is exactly what ?
As expected,
Nidal Hasan sentenced to death for Fort Hood shooting rampage (Wash. Post).
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How 2001: A Space Odyssey Predicted The Future
On August 5, 2011 NASA will launch a new mission. One of several missions now in the works at NASA, the Juno probe will travel to Jupiter. Juno won’t arrive at the solar system’s largest planet until mid-2016. When it does, it will start analyzing a mysterious planet that’s ten times the size of Earth.
A computer-generated image of the Juno probe within Jupiter’s orbit.
The Juno Probe
Juno is a technological marvel. Juno’s sensors will let scientists study Jupiter’s gravitational field – which is so strong that anything that entered its atmosphere four billion years ago, back when the planet was formed, is still trapped there – like an ancient insect preserved forever in a block of amber, Jupiter is a ready-made time capsule waiting to be explored.
Juno’s detectors will also check the planet for signs of water (past or present), in order to assess the possibility that life has existed there. It’s an opportunity for not only NASA scientists but future scientist and engineers who want to learn more about the universe to explore the reaches of the cosmos. The Juno mission may well change our concept of our solar system and will almost certainly change what we know about Jupiter. But Juno’s trip is not the first time we’ve been to Jupiter.
Ahead of His Time
Stanley Kubrick went to Jupiter first. It’s true, although in a fictional sense. In his sprawling space epic, 2001: A Space Odyssey, master director Kubrick took filmgoers on a celestial sleigh ride to the planet. The film not only foretold Juno’s trip, but also managed to foresee inventions like the iPad and many other technological advances – way back in 1968.
Kubrick took audiences to Jupiter 48 years before Juno.
2001: A Space Odyssey sling-shotted viewers from man’s apelike beginnings to a future four million years later, all within the space of one glorious jump cut, which has been called “the longest flash forward in film history.” It also gave us a peek into the future. While the film may have not accurately predicted such advances as civilian space travel, manned lunar bases, and alien contact, the iPad and Juno are perfect examples of how the film impacted our future. Much of what the film predicted has become a reality.
Technology 2001: A Space Odyssey Predicted
Astronauts in the film use tablet computing devices to reconnect with humanity in the dead of space.
Flat-screens From computer monitors to televisions, flat-screens have replaced ancient CRT systems, giving viewers better resolution and more screen space.
Voice Identification Systems/Voice-controlled Computers The Dragon voice recognition system and Apple’s Siri are just a few examples of voice recognition computer systems that allow you to control your computer using your voice. Voice identification systems are used for security.
Video Teleconference & Telecommuting You can meet anyone now on your own terms (and, in most cases, without ever leaving your home).
Tablet Computing The iPad, like the iPhone caused tech manufacturers to re-think what consumers wanted in their electronic devices. Tablet computers offer compact computing solutions.
Game-Playing Computers IBM’s Jeopardy-dominating Watson wasn’t the first computer to show humans how inferior we were.
In-flight Entertainment Throughout 2001: A Space Odyssey, technology demonstrates how it can improve and entertain man.
2001′s still-incredible special effects were overseen by industry wizard Douglas Trumbull, two NASA aerospace engineers and some 35 designers.
In the final analysis, much (if not most) of the technology predicted by 2001 has become fact. It’s interesting to note that Kubrick, whose films are often called “cold” and “inhuman,” was trying to reflect a humanistic and even optimistic world view with 2001. And despite his noted perfectionism, Kubrick was showing at least some flexibility the film; for example, when he learned that his team of designers couldn’t realistically depict the fabled rings of Saturn, Kubrick immediately redirected his mission to Jupiter instead. If only NASA could do that.
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Pastor John Gray Unites With Megachurch Leaders to Push Bridging Racial Divide
By Leonardo Blair , Christian Post Reporter | Nov 16, 2018 1:39 PM
(Image : Instagram)These pastors met at Relentless Church in Greenville, S.C., on November 14, 2018 to discuss bridging the racial divide.
After coming under heavy criticism from members of the black community for meeting with President Donald Trump to discuss prison reform and urban job creation, Pastor John Gray continued his push for change Wednesday when he gathered with several high profile megachurch pastors to see how churches can lead the healing of the nation's racial divide.
"My job is to drive the dialogue not only into the natural but the spiritual and to identify areas where the Church can be an agent of healing as opposed to a place of further division," Gray told WYFF4 at his Relentless Church in Greenville, South Carolina.
Joining Gray for the conversation on building bridges were: Steven Furtick, pastor of the popular Elevation Church in North Carolina; the Rev. A.R. Bernard, leader of the 40,000-member Christian Cultural Center; Pastor Levi Lusko of Fresh Life Church in Montana, and Pastor Ken Claytor of Alive Church in Gainesville, Florida.
"The church needs to be able to speak about the moral high ground without dishonoring people from different backgrounds," Gray said.
In August, Gray was criticized by some members of the black community after he and a group of about 20 black pastors met with Trump to discuss issues related to prison reform and urban job creation.
Gray defended his meeting with Trump, comparing it to Jesus' meeting with tax collector Zacchaeus.
"Sitting at a table is neither affirming, endorsing, agreeing or aligning. If so Jesus certainly couldn't have sat with Zacch[a]eus or been in the company of lepers," Gray said. "High Priests couldn't go near lepers. Jesus made clear that He came eating and drinking and was a friend to sinners, tax collectors and wine bibbers."
(Image: Instagram)These pastors met at Relentless Church in Greenville, S.C., on November 14, 2018 to discuss bridging the racial divide.
Critics like Christian comedian and nationally syndicated radio host Rickey Smiley didn't agree with Gray's position and argued that the Greenville preacher and the other black pastors were being used to help the president attract votes.
"You see all these black preachers that were sitting around Donald Trump two weeks ago, same thing. What's the difference between that and remember now, George W. Bush. Only thing Donald Trump needs is 8 percent of the black vote in order to get re-elected. George Bush needed 10 and he got it because he went around and he got all those black preachers to preach abortion and gay marriage sermons which got black Christians in a[n] uproar and 10 percent of them voted for George W. Bush. That pushed him over the top to become re-elected against John Kerry in 2004," Smiley argued.
Furtick, however, doesn't agree with that assessment of Gray and described him as a "category killer" instead at the Wednesday event billed as The Bridge, according to Greenville News.
"God has used you to break barriers," Furtick said, noting that Gray's bravery in working in places where there isn't a lot of diversity such as Lusko's Montana church.
"I know I've been places where I'm the first black man they've hugged," Gray said.
Gray launched The Bridge as a new program that he hopes will help foster conversations about race, culture and politics with the Church at the front.
"Tonight our nation gets what I believe is the beginning of something I think will change the nation," Gray said. "It's time for the Church to have a necessary, uncomfortable conversation."
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Lusko revealed that his church recently uncovered World War II era advertisements while renovating and found an ad promoting a KKK gathering at the old theater where he now leads worship services.
Having Gray speak there now is a small step forward.
"People are saying man, the time is dark. There's so much division, there's so much hatred, there's so much pain. And we just believe that we have a big part to play. We believe this is the Church's finest hour to shine," Claytor said.
Grays wife, Aventer, also insisted to WYFF4 that: "We need bridge builders. We need people who can meet in the middle. We can have disagreements but they can be amicable. Like we can have differences of opinion but we can do it in love."
The conversation between the megachurch pastors was recorded and will be released as a movie in theaters nationwide, possibly early next year, according to the Greenville News.
Tiffany Mashburn, who has been attending Relentless Church since 2010, when it was called Redemption Church before Gray became the church's new pastor in May, noted that the event's diverse audience was a reflection of what she believes Heaven will look like.
"You tend to hear a lot of time that people go to the church that preaches the Jesus that's most comfortable for you. But when you go you should be challenged," she said. "This is what Heaven would look like as opposed to a white church here and a black church there."
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HHS Joins Optum Labs as Research Partner–Back Peddles Support of FDA Sentinel Program That Does the Same Thing-More Impact from the Six Degrees of Bob Rubin Running Healthcare in the US
We know Optum Labs is there to make money, selling slots to drug, device companies and others to have the “use” of mining their data. So far all we have had of any significance reported is the same thing Kaiser reported from their registry information on hip and knee replacements. A big part of how Optum makes their money is selling data and access to data. What’s really interesting is that the same type of data mining operation was set up at the FDA and it in turn gets very little press, the agency that approves the drugs and devices that are allowed to be sold in the US.
Boston Scientific is also a research member here and pretty much what we have seen there is the closing of a few California locations and manufacturing moved from the US to Costa Rica for stents.
Boston Scientific Joins Optum (United Healthcare) Labs - Research for the Good With Profits Built In For Those Providing Medical Records And Data…
Here’s a bit from the archives on the FDA data mining effort at the link below. So, this kind of tells me there’s more to this than just research for better drugs, care, and devices, it’s all about money and what gets spent on our healthcare.
FDA Sentinel and “Mini”Sentinel Data Base Is Growing and Becoming A Very Useful Tool
Speaking of the FDA, United/Optum also owns a consulting firm that helps drug and device companies get their products approved by the FDA and there’ some trial information mixed in there too. There’s also the ChinaGate United Subsidiary in China that works to get more Chinese drugs and devices distributed within and outside of China as well.
United Healthcare (Optum) Owns A Consulting Firm for FDA Drug and Device Approvals, Clinical Trials–CanReg - Subsidiary Watch
Anything out of Mayo on their use of the Labs with ground breaking research....so far nothing…but they make money letting the Labs use patient electronic medical records. It’s kind of strange that HHS is not even supportive of their own FDA efforts with the Sentinel Data Base, right? Again this goes to show the long time relationship and a bit of cronyism with HHS and United Healthcare as well. If you poke around a bit more than you might read about our current head of the DOJ, Loretta Lynch, she used to represent United Healthcare with anti-trust suits, so you can just about figure she’s do nothing with insurance carriers when it comes to anti-trust, or at least this company. Of course we all may or may not know by now that Secretary Burwell was a former Chief of Staff for Bob Rubin that was one of the big three that turned the US economy on it’s ear with abandoning Glass Steagall and furthering the allowance of derivatives in the stock markets. If you want more background on all of that, visit the “Killer Algorithms” page where there are some videos from people smarter than me that will give you the history and explain the fact.
Optum Labs Add Four Additional Data Miners To the Collaboration Looking for Data…
UnitedHealthGroup and AARP Get Cozier, AARP Still Gets Paid for Marketing Use of AARP Name As AARP Becomes an Optum Labs Data Selling Promoter Amidst Doctor Complaints Received Relative To United Firing of 5500 MDs–Subsidiary Watch
Not too long ago as well Mayo decided to outsource their revenue cycling to Optum 360 as well, so more money for United there. I read a few of the job reviews from folks about how they were fired from the hospital and re-hired by Optum 360 to work in this area and most seemed to be really disappointed in the loss of benefits 360 provided versus the benefits they previously enjoyed when employed directly from the hospital.
Mayo Clinic is the Latest to Outsource Revenue Cycling to Optum 360, A United Healthcare/Dignity Health Company Pursuing Hospital Contracts All Over the US For Profit…
United Healthcare Adding Yet One More Subsidiary to the Very Large Number of Subs They Already Own/Operate-Optum and Dignity Healthcare (A System Wide Cerner EHR Client) Form New Venture Called Optum 360–Subsidiary Watch
The subsidiary game along with mergers and acquisitions as well it getting so bizarre that people insured by Cigna probably have no clue that their new pharmacy benefit manager is United Healthcare via the Catamaran PBM acquisition.
If You Are Insured by Cigna, Guess What You Have a New Pharmacy Benefit Manager Named United Healthcare
We truly have some folks in top places in government that seem to live way too virtual and forget about the real world half the time. You can see it all the time on Twitter with posts of selfies and other such nutty stuff. I knew when Obama and Biden jumped in to posting selfies, we lost them to virtual world values and chances were slim of either coming back. Look at Secretary Burwell and all the selfies she posts, looks a bit lost, especially the selfie with a bicycle helmet on a few days after John Kerry fell of his bike in France. What’s wrong with these people? They just create noise and now think being a member of this big Optum data base is going to save the world or the US? It’s crazy that HHS and CMS don’t even support their own efforts of the FDA under current government structures? Optum supports and pay for a bicycling team so is this where all the bicycle focus comes from, to where all at the White House think they need to talk about their bicycle habits?
CMS Chasing Wild Virtual Horses-A Big Distraction on the Hope of Finding Some “Algo Fairies” By Giving Entrepreneurs Access to Medicare Claims and Other Data…Marketing & Astro Turfing “The Sebelius Syndrome”..
Look who’s running CMS? We have Andy Slavitt, the former Goldman banker and United Healthcare executive that everyone sued over his crooked algorithms? I have a few former CMS folks that have taken time to fill me on on quite a bit of history with both HHS and CMS a nd this is not good with one company having such a huge monopoly. The link below will tell you more about Mr. Slavitt, who President Obama has nominated to run CMS. If you have paid attention to the news in the last few days, he seems very much distracted with social networking comments and just not in touch at all. Seriously why does the President of the US need a personal Facebook page? I see an addiction here perhaps and virtual and real world values being confused.
Another United Healthcare (Ingenix) Lawsuit Settling Over 9 Million-Short Paying Ambulatory Surgery Centers-Current CMS Director and One Time Goldman Sachs Banker, Andy Slavitt was CEO of Ingenix for Years…
Here’s another option from the Optum Bank with Health Savings Accounts…be aware as when you hit the magic number of $2100 in savings, on comes the marketing to get you to place some or all of that money in mutual funds instead of using it for healthcare when you need it.
United Healthcare Owns a Bank-Optum Bank That Will Collect Your HSA Money, Give You a MasterCard to Empty It Out-Which Enables Even More Data Mining and Selling Transactions About You
You also have United/Optum poking around in the medical records arena too and this archives article tells you a bit more and for goodness sakes the ONC portion of HHS hired a former United Healthcare lawyer to investigate and write policy on privacy…good luck there as so far there’s been nothing but a paycheck handed out to this individual.
United Healthcare (Optum Insight Subsidiary) Wants To Be Your Allscripts, Epic And GE Centricity EHR Consulting Service Starting With Implementation And Beyond
So again cronyism and one big healthcare insurer that’s become too big to fail it appears here. Just recently Vermont voted on universal healthcare and guess what, if it has been successful, Optum was right at the door wanting a contract to manage it. Colorado should be aware of this potential when they take their vote on the same topic.
There’s absolutely little or no benefit for us as consumers with this partnership at all, other than just more ways to algorithmically play God and deny access to services or other benefits we may need for our care. Again, this looks really bad doing this and not even being in full support of their own FDA agency with the Sentinel Program. It’s all about making money, selling more data.
We need to index and license all data sellers in the US as this is getting out of hand and the data in many areas has become flawed, profiles created about us are flawed..but the cash registers keep on putting money in the banks. BD
CAMBRIDGE, Mass.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--OptumLabs, the collaborative health care research and innovation center co-founded by Optum and Mayo Clinic, announced that the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has joined the collaborative as a research partner.
“We are grateful to have HHS as a new partner and welcome its active engagement as we focus on new initiatives that can directly translate to improvements in patient care.”
Agencies under HHS’s purview will now have the opportunity to develop and lead innovative health care research using OptumLabs’ big data resources, which link de-identified medical claims and clinical data to provide holistic views of populations and patient care.
“As HHS and its affiliates seek opportunities to improve the health, safety and well-being of all Americans, we believe that partnering with private-sector organizations such as OptumLabs will help accelerate the discovery of new health care models and practices,” said Susannah Fox, chief technology officer of HHS. “We are eager to collaborate with OptumLabs and its partners on a variety of initiatives that harness the power of health data to improve patient care and outcomes.”
The first research project to be conducted through this arrangement is with senior scientists at the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality (AHRQ), the lead federal agency charged with improving the safety and quality of America’s health care system. The agency will compare and contrast health care trends identified in its Medical Expenditure Panel Survey (MEPS) with those identified in real-world administrative health care claims records for the commercially insured population in OptumLabs’ databases, with the goal of increasing the value of MEPS to researchers exploring health care costs. MEPS collects data on the health services that Americans use, the cost of these services and how they are paid for.
HHS and its agencies also will work with OptumLabs on other projects, including research related to population health and the economics of health care – such as identifying whether disparities exist and can be measured in health care delivery at the national and local levels. All research is performed using de-identified outcomes-based data that can help answer questions about improvements in health care quality and delivery.
“Government is a key stakeholder in health care, and through this partnership now has a seat at the table of our collaborative community at OptumLabs,” said Paul Bleicher, M.D., Ph.D., CEO of OptumLabs. “We are grateful to have HHS as a new partner and welcome its active engagement as we focus on new initiatives that can directly translate to improvements in patient care.”
OptumLabs, with one of the largest de-identified patient databases in health care, is the first open, collaborative research and innovation center designed to accelerate health care innovation, leading to improved patient care and patient value. More than 100 research projects are currently underway or in development, and members of OptumLabs and its partner organizations have published more than 20 articles in leading health research journals.
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Trauma, Turmoil and Recovery: Surviving Foster Care
“Those were the first nights that we actually cried ourselves to sleep. We had family and we thought we could trust these people, and now we’re being put in foster care. It just didn’t make sense to us. And no matter what they said, it didn’t make it better. So, we just said, well, here we go. And at least we have each other.” — Katherin Bellew, former foster care child
Trauma, Turmoil and Recovery: Surviving Foster Care, profiles survivors of foster care, including two sisters who last year graduated from Smith College and Virginia Polytechnic, respectively.
Their father was a drug addict who was incapable of caring for them after their mother ran off with a lover. After their parents abandoned them, the two girls were taken in by an aunt. Overwhelmed by her own life, she eventually put them into foster care and then committed suicide. Despite the upheaval and hardship, both sisters persevered and are doing well.
We also look at two brothers whose mother was murdered by their own father outside a shopping mall. Even though traumatized, the brothers have thrived. One is studying and working in London. The other is a teacher and a basketball coach. The program also addresses some of the larger questions raised by foster care.
Listen to a sample of Trauma, Turmoil and Recovery
Listen to the full documentary
Allison Bellew talks about why she and her sister were able to go so much farther than the typical kid who ages out of foster care.
Katharine Bellew talks about her life in Hawaii with her sisters and mother before she was thrown into foster care.
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Raspberries | Eric Carmen
Foolin' Myself
By Raspbernie, January 18, 2011 in I Can Remember
LocationCamarillo, Ca.
Hossy, I assume you were lucky enough to have been at those concerts Details, please!
I have contacted Bernie on that set list- there are also some songs that repeat themselves in the book for that set- I'm sure it's just an editing error. Thanks!
hossy
LocationJapan
Hi,Kirk
YAMAHA world popular song festival was brosdcast to the Japanese whole country.
I watched the concert on the TV.
It is the order in broadcasting that Aventurine posted.
The order in the concert is as you posted,without "You need some lovin'".
Eric perfomed with the orchestra as Aventurine posted.
It was a very moving performance.
Do you understand my English?
Eric on the stage YAMAHA world popular song festival.
Does Eric still remember the impression at that time?
Thanks for the reply and the picture
I didn't realize it was broadcast on T.V. No wonder so many people in Japan fell in love with Eric!
Raspberrybelle
Welcome hossy.
I wish I could hear Eric singing in the picture.
Thank you,Kirk.
The program was broadcast on Sunday afternoon.
There are still a lot of lady who fall in love with Eric!
Aventurine,second moon and more....
Eric playing the piano and singing in YAMAHA world popular song festival
Hello & Thank you,Belle!
The concert was about 30 minutes.
A new arrangement of "That's Rock'n Roll" was performed for the first time in Japan.
Hello & Thank you,Bernie!
Perhaps, it is a performance on February 6, 1980 in TOKYO NAKANO-SUNPLAZA.
Great photo, thank you,hossy!!!
I really enjoyed THE performance on TV.
I felt ... This is what real music that I want is !
This is the reason why I am here on EC.com.
Then I want to tell you, everyone !
Eric performed at The Nippon Budokan. It's very valuable and special place for Japanese.
I'd like to show you some quate from Wiki.
The Nippon Budokan, often shortened to just Budokan, is an arena in central Tokyo, Japan.
For many Westerners, the Budokan is synonymous with large-scale rock concerts. It was here that The Beatles made their Japanese debut and the location where many "Live at the Budokan" albums were recorded.
The Beatles were the first rock group to perform here, in a series of shows in June/July 1966; their appearances were met with opposition from those who felt the appearance of a western pop group would defile the martial arts arena.[2]
However, the Budokan gained worldwide fame when American artists Cheap Trick & Bob Dylan used the arena to record their concert albums, At Budokan (1978) and Bob Dylan at Budokan (1979), respectively. In explaining the popularity of the venue for live albums, Eric Clapton described the Tokyo audience as "almost overappreciative" in interviews promoting his own live Just One Night (1980), recorded at Budokan.
Other artists to release live recordings from this venue include:
Deep Purple for the last of the three concerts making up their Made in Japan live album
Tin Machine who recorded a portion of Tin Machine Live: Oy Vey, Baby
Quincy Jones, Live At Budokan (1981)
Dream Theater (who recorded a live 2DVD/3CD Live at Budokan)
Ozzy Osbourne (who filmed Live at Budokan)
Michael Schenker Group, One Night at Budokan (1982)
Oasis, Three Nights in a Judo Arena (1998)
Blur Live at the Budokan
Judas Priest Rising in the East (2005)
Bay City Rollers, Rollerworld, Live at the Budokan 1977
The original Beatles concert is heavily bootlegged on audio and video;[3] the first night's concert video was officially released by Apple in Japan only as Beatles Concert at Budokan 1966, and excerpts are included in The Beatles Anthology. Chatmonchy currently holds the record for the largest crowd at Budokan.
LocationNaples, FL
Welcome Hossy
thanks for the story update and photo
Booyah!
LocationNew England
Hey, great photo of Eric, Hossy! Did you take the photo? He looks like he was really "feelin' it." Thank you for finding it and posting it!
LocationBuenos Aires, Argentina
hossy said:
SUBLIME!!
Well, Eric was sooooooo hot at that time. I saw him on TV!!!
And I beleive he is still hot now!!!
In Japan, there was Eric's fan club at that time.
My friend Hossy was the one of the member. Hossy will own valuable material (bulletin of the fan club,etc), and he will shows these here.
The fans of Japan decided to unite for Eric might sing again !!!.
elle4ec
Wow! Welcome hossy! Thank you so much for the clarification of the set-list when Eric performed at the Yamaha World Popular Song Festival, in Japan!
Most of all, thank you for the awesomely sexy photos of Eric in Japan!
We look forward to any more contributions you might be able to share with us Eric lover's here!
Hi Aventurine:
The Budokan also represents hallowed ground for any practitioner of martial arts....especially sumo wrestling. A very special place indeed!
angelina,LC,andiemay,elle4ec and of course Aventurine.
I am not here only to post the memories story.
We strongly hope for the activity renewal of Eric.
Hossy, I'm already loving you!
Hi andiemay, How about this?
Eric Live in Japan.
February just 31 years ago.
A lot of fans wait in Japan.
Please come back to Japan again,please.
marathon mama
Thank you for posting these pictures - I enjoyed looking at them and am glad that you took the time to share them with us.
LocationSW Florida
SWEET GEEZUS....HOTNESS
thanks for the pictures
Thank you so much HOSSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BlondeVelvet
My hands are quivering with a burning desire to run my fingers through that gorgeous hair (head & chest)!! Thanks Bernie & Hossy!
Is there anyone who find the video Nicholas sang "Foolin' Myself"?
I've heard his performance on "YAMAHA WORLD POPULAR SONG FESTIVAL." stage,
though I never heard it since then.
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Hadji Murad by Leo Tolstoy (Book Review Essay Sample)
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Leo Tolstoy is one of the world’s most famous novelists. He is known especially for the 19th century classic war and peace. Even though he was born into nobility, Leo spent much of his life as a champion of Russia’s peasant class. He began his literacy career in the 1850s, he wrote about his own life. Born on a family estate at Yasnaya Polyana, 100 miles south of Moscow, Leo dropped out of Kazan University at the age of 19. At such tender age, he possessed vast physical strength and liveliness. With great appetite for vodka and women, he couldn’t stay in school any longer.
At his youth, Leo joined the Russian army, in 1854; he was commissioned and sent to Sevastopol for the Crimean War. During his service as a soldier, he witnessed the French attack of the Malakoff redoubt. He also wrote a book Sevastopol Sketches which was greatly welcome in literacy circles and commended for its realistic depiction of the war. After wandering widely throughout Europe, Leo returned to the family and committed himself to raising a family and writing his marvellous psychological views. His writing, he mostly focused on ethics, morals, and his own Christian conversion.
In 1910, Leo left his home in company of his youngest daughter, Alexandria. He fell ill on his way while in a train, and ended up dying a few days later in the house of a railroad stationmaster, in Astapovo. He died at the age of 82 years. In the 2009 movie- The Last Station, Leo Tolstoy was played by Christopher Plummer, with Helen Mirren as Sonya, Leo’s wife. Leo spent his last years writing religious tracts and criticizing the Russo-Japanese war.
Hadji Murad is Leo Tolstoy best seller book. The novel is based on a true tragic history of 1851 and 1852. The book depicts the cruelty of a Russian emperor who is focused to conquer Chechnya, and the intrigue, incompetence and arrogance of the Russian government officials and its army. It denounces the power of Russia in ferocious and intolerant manner. It gives insights into the modern war between Islamic terrorists and the rest of the world. The novel opens and closes with the description of a plant, a red wild thistle, which was trodden by a passing carriage, but still arose, cut, bent, but up. This plant is emblematic of Hadji Murad, the hero of his tale.
The main character is a collaborator named Hadji Murad. As the tale begins, he was fleeing over a resistance controlled area intending to offer his amenities to the Russians. Which he afterwards did, on his way to Russia, he spend several nights with the family of an old friend called Sado. Late that night, a Butler (Russian leader) ordered the soldiers to burn corn and hay and houses too. As smoke spread over the village, the soldiers picked and carried off what they found in houses. They also run after chicken shooting them
As the killing and the destruction was being conducted by the soldiers, the officers sat down away from the smoke, they had meals and something to drink. After some time, the officers withdrew the order. They moved, but soon, the Chechens reappeared and followed, firing parting shots towards the soldiers.
Sado, with whom he had taken his family away to the mountains when the Russians loomed the village, came back and found that his house had been broken into. Besides them was a woman who had been waiting for Hadji, she was wailing without break. Sado picked the shovel; he went alongside his kinsmen and dug a grave for his son. This is a clear indication on suppression that the innocent citizens passed through.
It’s also clear that a lot of loses were incurred. At some point, the author tells of burnt cherry trees, burnt beehives, scorched young trees and ruined houses. Mothers wailed with their young children, the young animals moaned, too, and there was nothing to give them. There was a state of fear, even the grown-up children played no games and looked at their elder ones with scared eyes. The village elders assembled in the squire to discuss the situation. No one amongst them spoke a word of hatred to the Russians, the emotion felt by every Chechen, young and old were alike, and it was stronger than loathing.
At a different incidence, Hadji was beaten and trashed by the absolutism of the wild Muslim religion leader Shamil. Shamil had always attempted to unite his people against Russia. On the other side, Nicholas-the Russian depot had more interest in his own affairs than what was good for his people. Shamil like the obsessive Muslim today, affirms to the Muslims that it is better to die in hatred with Russians than to live with the Unbelievers. He promises that before long, he would come with a Koran and the sword and he would lead the Muslim religion into war. These same words are shouted by Muslims today. The misfortune of Shamil’s country, and for Hadji and for the future of the area of the United States and for Russia is that the radicals destroy both their enemies and their people with their hatred.
As the tale comes to an end, the theme of collaboration and resistance comes up where the villagers are faced with a choice: either to remain as before and by difficult means restore all that had been produced with such labour and so mindlessly smashed, or could act against the law of their religion and, despite the distaste and the disrespect they felt for the Russians, submit to them.
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Ravyn Lenae’s New Song Sticks
Ravyn Lenae staying up and active. Making some noise around Chicago with her most recent release. Sticky follows her music video release of Unknown, apart of the much bigger project Midnight Moonlight released in spring. Ravyn’s flow tends to stick to you like an contagious melody. You can bump her LP and it will still sound as fresh as its first release. Doing it again, turning another beat into a timeless piece.
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New EZY Era is a Chicago born artist with an enigmatic sound. Raised in the multicultural suburbs of Chicago his sound blends as much as his surroundings.
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GridLockAndy is a 22 yr old Music Producer from Chicago. He started his music career at 17 making beats in his spare time from home. Eventually moving to his first music studio in 2013. In the beginning of 2014, he moved to his second music studio which was in the back of a cellphone store where he learned how to audio engineer. Later that same yr he teamed up with Rhymster, Frekwenzy, Z3ndoctor, and Will Balonos to rent I studio room in the highly acclaimed Fort Knox studios where they currently house the Ever Evolved headquarters. A could of yrs later in the the spring of 2016 he release his first beat tape “Is Andy Real?” sporting neo-jazz hip hop tracks that defines his sound.
Julian Rodriguez, aka RhymSter, was born and raised in Chicago, Illinois. The interest to take on music didnt catch on until he graduated high school in 2010. Looking back on his past, he realized that all his life his family had exposed him to different genres of music such as 80s-90s Hip Hop, Jazz, Rock, Oldies, Soul, House, R&B, & various types of Spanish music. In a way, he was already preparing himself for what was to come.
Julian was a solo artist for some years building his skills and relationship with fellow partners/producers Frekwenzy & GridLockAndy. After some time Julian linked with William Bolanos, Founder of Ever Evolved, to establish a vision that both of them shared musically and creatively. During the time of building the company Julian expanded his creativity into production as well as taking on the business side of Ever Evolved. A jack of all trades is what you can call him.
William Bolanos
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Born and raised in Chicago, Il. I started Ever Evolved as a music blog to promote conscious creative music from Chicago. Throughout my life i have been entertained by music of all genres. Music is my one consistent love and seeing it promoted in mainstream television networks in such negative and lazy form, i decided to take matters into my own hands. Making it a mission to open minds to the underground and artists who create original music out of passion rather than greed.
Working along side Rhymster and Frekwenzy at Fort Knox Studios, we quickly transformed Ever Evolved into a music studio, event and promotion company. With this platform we not only promote music, we create it and bring it to an audience directly. Hoping to inspire and bring talented individuals together. We aim to create a future of music with class, soul and original style.
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My name is Ken and I am an engineer/ producer/ and graphic designer out of Ever Evolved Studios located near Montrose Blue Line train station in Chicago, IL.
I specialize in EDM and trap based production. I tend to enjoy creating beats from scratch with the people I work with just because I believe in the artistry. It’s always fun to create something organic from scratch. What usually happens in one of my sessions is I would start working on a beat with a lyricist and we would bounce off ideas and give each other critiques.
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I started gaining an interest in music from a young age. Eventually taking guitar lessons when I was in 6th and 7th grade. Then later into highschool I was musically involved with some friends in a band for a while which just brought me closer and closer to music. Which ultimately lead to me picking up Ableton which completely changed my outlook on music altogether.
As far as to why I do it….well it’s just a part of me. Sitting down to compose and edit music always gives me a really calming rush. Especially knowing that I came from dreaming about as a kid to being here right now.
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Japan's Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries to Seek Recognition of Japanese Cuisine as World Intangible Cultural Heritage
No, it's not a joke.
From Mainichi Shinbun English, citing Kyodo News (7/6/2011):
TOKYO (Kyodo) -- A government-appointed panel held its first meeting Tuesday to consider a proposal to seek UNESCO registration for Japanese food culture as an intangible cultural heritage with a view to promoting food exports and Japan's tourism industry.
Many of those present at the meeting were positive about the idea, saying Japanese food is valued around the world because it is healthy and also because of the esthetics of the way a dish is presented, the farm ministry said.
The panel, assembled by the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries, will submit its report by October with an eye toward winning registration from the U.N. Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization by November 2013.
The ministry hopes the initiative will help restore trust in the safety of Japanese food now that some 40 countries have toughened regulations on food imports from Japan following the crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
So far, French, Mexican and Mediterranean foods have been designated by UNESCO, and Korean imperial cuisine is expected to be added to the lists in November.
Mainichi Japanese (7/5/2011) has a bit more detail. The government panel consists of food industry big shots including the honorary chairman of Kikkoman and the head of a famous cooking school.
If the Japanese government wants to "restore trust in the safety of Japanese food", the best thing it could do is to stop the radioactive material leak from Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant, and embark on decontaminating the entire Tohoku and Kanto at whatever cost.
The Japanese government always wanted to create "inflation". Here's their chance. Just print money and spend to carry out the necessary work of restoring trust.
Instead, they operate on the cheap, calling radioactivity as "rumor" and pushing, of all things, Japanese food as a World Heritage, as if being recognized as such would somehow decontaminate the food in Japan.
Or they may be promoting a unique blend of 2,000-year Japanese cultural tradition and radioactive cesium and strontium, with a dash of plutonium and cobalt-60. Just like that nutty Fukushima doctor says, "Food with a bit of radiation will fetch premium!"
Labels: Fukushima, Japanese food, World Heritage
I have spent half my life in Japan and am a big lover of Japanese cuisine. It is my favorite food to eat. But now, as a result of Fukushima and also the lies by the government and food companies I will NEVER buy or eat Japanese food ever again. I do not care about about the effect to the Japanese economy or farmers. Health is more important than $$.
In my eyes, Japanese cuisine is dead. The Japanese government should have thought about this consequence beforehand and also what effect their lies about radioactive contamination would have. I have ZERO trust in the Japanese government or any food companies.
I left my over 15 years of life and my career in Japan 3 months ago because of this horror. It is a disgusting thing that this has happened because of TEPCO's greed and carelessness. Even more disgusting is that they are all trying to conceal the truth and the risks to save their precious economy.
The damage has been done. Do not lie to the people. Evacuate your innocent people near the affected areas. What you are doing is criminal and inhuman. You should all jump off a cliff you disgusting subhuman monsters.
@ortospace said...
I think they'll go for the blend: Japanese cuisine, glowing in the dark, giving you the gamma-vibe
BTW, they're just doing what was popular in the early 1900s. Give a look at these ads:
http://bressanini-lescienze.blogautore.espresso.repubblica.it/2011/04/18/esagerazioni-radioattive/
or these products:
http://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/quackcures/quackcures.htm
I'm trembling with anger, almost literally. I've sent them an email to demand such a stupid project be terminated immediately and that they instead do what they're supposed to be doing now.
We're living day by day worrying about the radiation included in what's in our mouths and worrying about the children's internal irradiation through foods. Why aren't they? Why do they stop being human beings after they become politicians or bureaucrats?
Anyway, many of my friends say they will make a protest. We've done so many times since March 11, something we hadn't done before. I'll really want to make them see that some of us are not the naivest and whitest sheeple as we used to be. We're turning to black sheeple for them.
Only the Japanese could come up with something so retarded to counter the slowing sales of their health taking radiation contaminated foods.
I am tempted to make a crack about radiation starting to indeed affect Japanese people's brains but had been a Japanophile(NOT ANYMORE) long enough to know this type of retarded shit reasoning is quite normal.
"Intangible" is exactly right. Who would want to touch sushi wrapped in radioactive seaweed?
"Just like that nutty Fukushima doctor says, "Food with a bit of radiation will fetch premium!" "
Heh, what the hell, if your turning the sense of a lifetime on its head, you may as well go full bore!
"I am tempted to make a crack about radiation starting to indeed affect Japanese people's brains but had been a Japanophile(NOT ANYMORE) long enough to know this type of retarded shit reasoning is quite normal."
The code of silence in the international nuke industry and in those who need plutonium is that type of retarded shit, also. Suppression of information enabled by intl. collaborators after the TEPCO Inaction Dirty Bomb Fukushima is evidence of "retarded shit". Period.
Once again we are witness to the full-scope of human pathology,and depravity,it seems to know no bounds.Let us pray for mother nature to put us all out of our misery,the sooner the better!
Japan you crapped in your bed now sleep in it and do not make other nations eat it.
"Let us pray for mother nature to put us all out of our misery,the sooner the better!"
Not quite. That would be the pathology you spoke of.
Oh come on. This has to be a joke.
@anon at 7:39PM, go see for yourself. The Ministry does not have the English page for this particular endeavor:
http://www.maff.go.jp/j/keikaku/syokubunka/index.html
You can even leave your idea on how to approach the project:
https://www.contact.maff.go.jp/maff/form/d1ca.html
This inaction, to not protest while the disaster was forming and to later come up with these ^^ retarded-sense initiatives suggests some group's silence is what they feel is appropriate, as in, they bear grudges - they've been 'underpaid' too long, it's 'what they wanted', 'they' need plutonium.
The ones that 'need' plutonium are awfully silent, worldwide.
I trust you can wend your way through those semi-quotation marks above.
In the end, plutonium is not needed. John Gofman's dissertation thesis,
U-233 is in many respects a better fissioning candidate = no need for plutonium.
Addicted .. to plutonium?
Pu-239 has a half-life of 24,000 years, 10 half-lives to be 'safe' = 240,000 years. Know of any extant civilisations that old??
Addicted to secrecy .. to murdering children ?
Something monstrous was born out of world war 2, and the silence enables it.
Adolescents in charge of the place.
Ah, Ramen noodles.
apeman2502 said...
Has the Bush Nazi-CIA been controlling the Japan vote (like they do in the U.S. because too many Americans mewl and prance instead of being real and remembering what kicking a bully's ass is about. Yes people, MEWL AND PRANCE!)? It sure would explain why Japan consistently creates and markets the best consumer goods on earth,cars, cameras, computers, you name it. But goes bat-shit crazy here at Fukushima. Remember George H.W. Bush losing a quart of lunch and breakfast all over the Japanese Prime Minister? Bushiro? Bush represents an extremely vicious bigotted crowd.
Most Americans can sleep with the pigs without a second thought. I want to know about Japanese voting fraud and who did what.
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Data breach fine for Singapore's Grab app
By Michael Baxter
Posted in News on 13 June 2019, 11:30 , 0 Comments.
Singapore-based tech firm, Grab, has received a $16,000 fine from the city-state’s government after a data breach that saw GrabCar customers’ information leaked through email marketing campaigns.
The company offers an app that allows Singaporeans to read the news, pay for goods, and book anything from ride-sharing services to food delivery, and house-visit beauticians.
The original data breach dates back to December 2017, when GrabCar inadvertently sent 399,751 direct emails to its customers. However, 120,747 of the emails held further data on other customers, such as names and mobile phone numbers.
According to the popular platform, the leak was down to poorly arranged customer data being mixed with other databases. Grab said that the breach was reported to the Singapore Personal Data Protection Commission (PDPC) upon discovery.
Speaking to The Drum, a spokesperson for Grab said:
“Grab takes data protection and our users’ privacy very seriously, and deeply regrets that this incident occurred.
“To prevent a recurrence, we had immediately put in place more rigorous data validation and checks, including new processes that require a third person to perform sanity checks on data as well as masking phone numbers in all marketing campaigns.”
“Grab is committed to comply with the Personal Data Protection Act (PDPA) and apologise for any anxiety caused."
Grab’s prompt addressing of the situation has not stopped the PDPC from finding the company in breach of data protection standards, due to the personal nature of the data involved in the leak.
Grab has come under fire from the PDPC commissioner for failing to install sufficiently robust systems to pinpoint the real cause of the data leak. However, the PDCP praised Grab for immediately notifying the relevant authorities and potential victims of the breach.
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Arsenic in Infant Formula – 3 Key Facts to Know
Nick Price / December 19, 2017
The infant formula market is growing rapidly as consumers decide to use powdered formulas as a supplement to, or in place of, breastfeeding. Formula typically serves as an infant’s sole source of nutrition, which poses unique challenges to infant food manufacturers. Because it serves as one of the only foods an infant consumes, it is vital to safeguard and protect infant formula against potential adulteration issues, whether that be physical, chemical or microbiological. Infant formula also contains more nutritional components than traditional foods, so the supply chain tends to be longer and more global than other commodities due to the procurement of many ingredients.
The Clean Label Project conducted a study in October of this year, testing 500 infant formula and baby food products from 60 different brands. The results exposed detectable levels of arsenic and cadmium in roughly two-thirds of the products and discovered lead in about one-third. Similar results were found in a second study, published by Healthy Babies Bright Futures, a nonprofit advocacy group whose efforts focus on reducing exposure to neurotoxic chemicals during the first thousand days of a child’s development. They reported toxic levels in infant rice cereal at six times the levels of other infant formulas with a non-rice base. Rice cereal is often used for infants who have sensitivities or allergies to infant formulas with other common bases, such as cow’s milk or soy.
Below are three key facts for infant formula manufacturers to keep in mind about rice and arsenic:
1) Arsenic cannot be completely removed from rice
Arsenic is found in higher levels in rice because it is absorbed more easily in rice than in other infant formula bases, such as cow’s milk and soy. Additionally, rice is typically grown in flood conditions, and groundwater during flooding typically contains an elevated level of arsenic. Though arsenic cannot be completely removed from rice, it is expected that what trace levels remain during or after processing will be reduced further prior to consumption through rinsing and cooking.
2) There are no regulatory limits for arsenic in infant formula in the U.S.
FDA issued a draft guidance on arsenic in baby food in April 2016, but has not yet finalized an action level or set any final rules regarding arsenic in rice-based infant formula. The proposed action level is 100 ppb. As part of the draft guidance, FDA encouraged comments from the industry on the feasibility of achieving this level and how it might affect the availability of rice-based infant formula in the market. Since April 2016, there has been no indication of a finalization of requirements by FDA, but there have been reports of products in the marketplace containing higher than 100 ppb of arsenic, as well as an outcry for FDA to reevaluate the toxicity associated with a 100 ppb dose.
3) There are toxic and not-as-toxic forms of arsenic
Arsenic that is bound to the element carbon is called “organic arsenic” and arsenic that is bound to other elements is referred to as “inorganic arsenic.” Inorganic arsenic is considered significantly more toxic than organic arsenic. Unfortunately, the form by far most prevalent in rice, and therefore infant formula products, is inorganic arsenic. However, analytical techniques exist to detect and quantitate total arsenic as well as to differentiate between organic and inorganic arsenic. This testing allows manufacturers to conduct risk assessments, as well as monitor their product and ingredient supply chains for arsenic to ensure product safety.
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Gateway continues to pass out pink slips in mass of Casino Rama lay-offs.
On Thursday, July 19, precisely one year after Gateway Casinos & Entertainment took over the day to day managerial operations of Casino Rama in Orillia, Ontario, the company announced the dismissal of 70 employees from its payroll. The fact that Gateway waited 365 days is telling, as that is the exact amount of time the company agreed not to alter the staff when taking over the casino from the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corp (OLG).
The very first day Gateway was allowed to pass out pink slips, they did. A total of 65 full-time, unionized employees, and 5 part-timers were eliminated from the pay roll that day. Those with the longest tenure were bought out (or in Gateway’s words, took advantage of a “voluntary exit incentive program”), others were reassigned, and the rest were simply fired.
An estimated 40+ more who weren’t members of the Unifor union have also lost their positions. 110+ firings in under two weeks. It’s being seen as a devastating blow to the community of Orillia, and one the Union says it’s prepared to fight to the bitter end.
Gateway Blames ‘Business Efficiencies’ for Casino Rama Lay-Offs
In a statement attempting to excuse their behavior, Gateway Casinos said that, since taking over Ontario’s Central Bundle of casinos in July 2018, they’ve examined the properties closely “with the goal of maximizing their efficiency and providing the best customer experience possible.”
Apparently, the staff doesn’t fit into that equation; a negligible integer in the greater scheme of operations, for upon analysis, the company decided the best way – nay, the only way – to meet that goal was by letting go of more than one hundred employees.
“We examined all options and despite best efforts to minimize the impact on staff, these reductions are a necessary step as we maximize efficiency and begin the next stages of expansion to provide the best gaming entertainment experience across Ontario to our customers,” said Gateway.
Gateway blamed the mass lay-offs on a number of factors. First up were alterations to regulatory guidelines regarding hours of operation, in which OLG determined restaurants in casinos can no longer stay open 24/7. That resulted in the elimination of the overnight dining crew. Other reasons included “investments in new technology (new security and surveillance systems, Gaming Management System, other automation), and other basic business efficiencies.”
Union & Casino Rama Employees Outraged
Unifor President Corey Dalton expressed the unilateral outrage of everyone effected by the ‘dismantling’ of Casino Rama. “Words cannot begin to describe the amount of disappointment and anger we all share in this decision,” he said. “Gateway has wasted no time and literally provided notice of layoffs on the first day they were legally entitled to.”
Every staff member who’s spoken to local media shares the same sentiment. They feel Gateway is far more concerned about profits than the people who make their businesses tick. “Casino Rama has always been a great place to work,” said one employee, “until Gateway came along.”
Dalton spoke on behalf of everyone when he said, “We have watched Gateway take a casino that was once the crown jewel of the province and dismantle it within 365 days.”
One former employee said the blow to Orillia has been so devastating, he is selling his home and moving away. He blames the OLG for its “modernization” program, building so many new casinos in close proximity to their existing ones. He says Gateway isn’t “even trying to compete” for its share of the GTA market.
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Dalton agrees with that assessment. In its hay day, he said Casino Rama employed 2,000 staff member and catered to a consistently packed house. That number steadily dropped to 1,700, then, since Woodbine Casino was permitted to install table games, combined with the 110+ Casino Rama lay-offs that began last month, the payroll has dwindled to just 1,200 employees.
Despite the long odds, Unifor is prepared as always to fight tooth and nail for their members. The next step in their uphill battle is a Casino Rama Solidarity Rally scheduled for Thursday, August 8, at J.B. Tudhope Memorial Park from 11:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. All Unifor members – especially those effected by the recent situation in Orillia – are encouraged to take part.
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Senate Rejects Auto Industry Bailout
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Unfortunately doing the right thing is sometimes hard. We have bankruptcy procedures for a reason. The problems with the automakers can be traced all the way back to the original Chrysler bailout. Had they been allowed to fail, had the markets been allowed to correct fully without stimulus, stimulus, and still more stimulus, then we would not be where we are today.
Senate Rejects Auto Industry Bailout After Talks Fail
By Nicholas Johnston and John Hughes
Dec. 11 (Bloomberg) -- The Senate rejected a $14 billion bailout plan for U.S. automakers, in effect ending congressional efforts to aid General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC, which may run out of cash early next year.
“I dread looking at Wall Street tomorrow,” Majority Leader Harry Reid said before the vote in Washington. “It’s not going to be a pleasant sight.”
The Bush administration will “evaluate our options in light of the breakdown in Congress,” spokesman Tony Fratto said.
The Senate thwarted the bailout plan when a bid to cut off debate on the bill the House passed yesterday fell short of the required 60 votes. The vote on ending the debate was 52 in favor, 35 against. Earlier, negotiations on an alternate bailout plan failed.
GM said in a statement, “We are deeply disappointed that agreement could not be reached tonight in the Senate despite the best bipartisan efforts. We will assess all of our options to continue our restructuring and to obtain the means to weather the current economic crisis.”
Reid said millions of Americans, “not only the autoworkers, but people who sell cars, car dealerships, people who work on cars,” will be affected. “It’s going to be a very, very bad Christmas for a lot of people as a result of what takes place here tonight.”
Asian stocks and U.S. index futures immediately began falling after Reid’s comments. The MSCI Asia Pacific Index slumped 2.2 percent to 86.13 as of 12:33 p.m. Tokyo time, while March futures on the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index slipped 3.4 percent.
‘Deja Vu’
“Remember when the first financial bailout bill failed” in Congress in late September, said Martin Marnick, head of equity trading at Helmsman Global Trading Ltd. in Hong Kong. “The markets in Asia started the slide. Deja vu, this looks like it’s happening again.” Congress approved a financial-rescue plan weeks later.
Senator George Voinovich, an Ohio Republican, urged the Bush administration to save the automakers by tapping the $700 billion bailout fund approved earlier this year for the financial industry.
“If this is the end, then I think they have to step in and do it -- it’s needed even though they don’t want to do it,” Voinovich said.
Connecticut Democrat Christopher Dodd, who helped lead the negotiations, said the final unresolved issue was a Republican demand that unionized autoworkers accept a reduction in wages next year, rather than later, to match those of U.S. autoworkers who work for foreign-owned companies, such as Toyota Motor Corp.
‘Saddened’
“More than saddened, I’m worried this evening about what we’re doing with an iconic industry,” Dodd said. “In the midst of deeply troubling economic times we are going to add to that substantially.”
Republican Bob Corker of Tennessee, who negotiated with Dodd, said, “I think there’s still a way to make this happen.”
Earlier today, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino warned that an agreement was necessary for the U.S. economy.
“We believe the economy is in such a weakened state right now that adding another possible loss of 1 million jobs is just something” it cannot “sustain at the moment,” Perino said.
Also earlier, South Dakota Republican John Thune suggested that if talks collapsed, the Bush administration might aid automakers with funds from the financial-rescue plan approved by Congress in October.
“I think that is where they go next,” Thune said. “I wouldn’t be surprised if they explore all options.” The Bush administration thus far has opposed that option, which was favored by Democrats.
To contact the reporters on this story: Nicholas Johnston in Washington at njohnston3@bloomberg.netJohn Hughes in Washington at Jhughes5@bloomberg.net
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April 23, 2013 by Beth Buczynski
Pioneered by NASA, this completely filterless air purification technology eliminates pollutants that aggravate your allergies and make you feel sick.
When someone says “air pollution” I almost instantly envision power plant smoke stacks and smog over Los Angeles. It’s disturbing to realize that the air inside our homes can be much more polluted than what’s outside.
Studies of human exposure to air pollutants by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency indicate that indoor levels of pollutants may be 2 to 5 times – and occasionally more than 100 times – higher than outdoor pollutant levels. Indoor air pollutants have been ranked among the top five environmental risks to public health.
Living in homes full of contaminated air puts our families at risk for serious health problems. Air filtration systems are common, but most do a poor job of actually removing chemicals and other contaminants from the air. After 12 years of rigorous scientific research, NASA recently launched the Airocide, a filterless air purification system that’s been proven to remove the worst indoor air pollutants.
Like many of our most revolutionary technologies, the Airocide was developed in response to a problem in space: space station astronauts needed a way to eliminate the ethylene gas produced by ripening plants. With the help of some University of Wisconsin researchers, NASA engineers came up with a solution.
Tests showed that the filterless air purifier they created was capable of eliminating 99 percent of ethylene gas from the air. This made the researchers wonder what else it could scrub from the atmosphere. More tests revealed that clears the air of virtually 100 percent of the nasty Volatile Organic Compounds (VOC’s)–the harmful gasses emitted by products you have around your home, like aerosol sprays, cleaning supplies, disinfectants, hobby supplies, dry-cleaned clothing, building materials, paints and paint thinners, strippers, pesticides and even air fresheners–swirling around in most houses.
This FDA approved device also completely eliminates all mold, fungi, viruses and bacteria (all major causes of allergy symptoms) that enter the chamber. But how?
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Hanif Religion
Ḥanīf religion (Arabic: الدین الحنیف), meaning a religion which conforms to human fitra or nature, refers to the religion propagated by all prophets from Adam (a) to the Prophet Muhammad (s). Being "hanif" is a feature of the divine religion which is straight and without any deviations. And specifically, it is a characteristic of Ibrahim's (a) religion.
The word "hanif" (حنیف) means to incline or to lean. It is a noun whose meaning is completed by a complementary noun. So "hanif" means something that inclines; and someone whose fingers are inclined outwards or whose legs are inclined is called "aḥnaf" (Arabic: أحنف).
However, some people hold that "hanif" means straight and direct. Thus in fact a person whose legs are straight is called "ahnaf", but a person whose legs are inclined is only called "ahnaf" for its good fortune, just as in Arabic a person who is sick is called healthy, because of the good fortune.
Terminological Meaning
The word "hanif" has various terminological senses because of its different uses in the exegesis of the Quran, the discipline of hadith, and the Arabic history in the Age of Ignorance (Jahiliyya).
Religion of Ibrahim (a)
During the Jahiliyya period, those who believed in the religion of Ibrahim (a) were called "hanif". Some Quranic verses point to such a usage:
“ Ibrahim was not a Jew nor a Christian but he was hanif, a Muslim, and he was not one of the polytheists ”
— Qur'an 3:67
“ And who has a better religion than he who submits himself entirely to Allah? And he is the doer of good and follows the faith of Ibrahim, the hanif (upright) one, and Allah took Ibrahim as a friend. ”
— Qur'an 4:125
The hanif religion was both a religious and reformist movement whose propagators were characterized as followers of Ibrahim (a)'s religion. Hanif people were skeptical of polytheism and idolatry; they went to caves for worships and reflections, and they called people to Ibrahim (a)'s old religion. These thoughts were influential in undermining the foundations of idolatry in the Arabian Peninsula and led to people's self-consciousness. Thus opposition to idols had already started before the emergence of Islam.
Customs of Some Arabs
The "hanif religion" is also used to refer to customs of some Arabs in the Jahiliyya period, which consisted of some practices that were remnants of Ibrahim (a)'s religion. It included practices such as hajj rituals, circumcision of boys, and janaba ghusl (ritual bath after impurity caused by sexual intercourse or seminal discharge).
As a Title for Polytheists
Jews and Christians used to call polytheists as "hanifs", and thus they used the word to refer to idolatry.
Conversion to the Right Religion
Some people take "hanif" to refer to a person who converts from a wrong religion to the right religion. This terminology is derived from the literal meaning of the word and has been made by some scholars of the Quranic exegesis.
A Muslim
On another terminology, "hanif" means Muslim (a person who submits himself or herself to God), as indicated by the holy Quran in the aforementioned verse (3:67). Imam al-Sadiq (a) said:
"To be hanif is to be a Muslim (a person who submits to God)".
and Imam al-Baqir (a) said:
"Al-Qanit means obedient and al-hanif means Muslim".
It must be noted that "Islam" has two meanings: it literally means submission and surrender, and it terminologically refers to the specific religion emerged after the revelation of the Qur'an. Sometimes prophets before Muhammad (s) are called Muslims or followers of Islam, which is meant to be in the literal sense of the term.
Divine Religion
"Hanif" is sometimes used as a feature of the divine religion that all prophets are obligated by God to propagate. This religion is called "Islam", that is, submission to God. According to the Quran:
“ the only religion before Allah is submission (Islam). ”
This is characterized as hanif because it conforms to people's fitra or nature. This is why Ibrahim (a)'s religion is also characterized as hanif. According to the holy Quran:
“ and that you should keep your face towards the religion in a hanif way (uprightly); and you should not be of the polytheists. ”
— Qur'an 10:105
In sources of hadith, the Prophet (s) is reported to have said that "Allah has ordered that I call to his hanif religion".
In the Qur'an
The word "hanif" has occurred 10 times in the Qur'an, and its plural form, "hunafa'" (Arabic: حنفاء) has occurred 2 times. 2 out of its 10 occurrences characterize the religion, 5 of them characterize the Ibrahim (a)'s religion or path, asking people to follow his religion because it was close (or "inclined") to the right religion.
And there are two occurrences of the word characterizing Ibrahim (a) himself; one of them occurs in the above verse (3:67), and the other one occurs in the verse:
“ surely Ibrahim was an exemplar, obedient to Allah, hanif (upright), and he was not of the polytheists. ”
The uses of the word "hanif" in the holy Quran imply monotheism that is apprehended by fitra and the outlook of prophets, particularly Ibrahim (a), and that it is contrary to polytheism. The verses (Quran 6:79, Quran 30:30 and others) show that there is a connection between being hanif and fitra (that is, instinctive grasp of the creator of the world). Some verses (Quran 2:135 and Quran 3:67) imply two issues:
To be a hanif is neither to be a Jew, nor to be a Christian.
It amounts to being a Muslim (in the literal sense, that is, submission to God).
In Hadiths
The word "hanif" and its cognates are very much used in hadiths, with its origin considered to be fitra or the nature on which God has created people.
The most significant use of "hanif" in hadiths is its application to a set of guidelines regarding health issues revealed by God to Ibrahim (a), some of which were practiced by a few Arabs during the Jahiliyya period. These traditions were revived by the Prophet Muhammad (s).
The material for this article is mainly taken from آیین حنیف in Farsi WikiShia.
Prophets in the Qur'an
Adam (a) • Nuh (a) • Abraham (a) • Moses (a) • Jesus (a)• Prophet Muhammad (s) • Ishmael (a) • Shu'ayb (a) • Salih (a) • Dhu l-Kifl (a) • Ilyas (a) • Idris (a) • Yunus (a) • Joseph (a) • Jacob (a) • Aaron (a) • Zechariah (a) • Yahya (a) • Isaac (a) • David (a) • Ayyub (a) • Lot (a) • Hud (a) • 'Uzayr (a) • Solomon (a) • Ahmad (a) • Dhun-Nun (a) • Yasa' (a) • Imran (a)
Suras
Sura al-Anbiya' • Sura Yunus • Sura Nuh • Sura Hud • Sura Ibrahim • Sura Yusuf • Sura Muhammad
Thamud • People of Lut • People of 'Ad • People of Rass • Israelites • People of the Sabbath • Quraysh • Madyan
Bright Hand • She-Camel of Salih (a) • The Qur'an • Shaqq al-Qamar • Four birds of Ibrahim • Companions of the Cave • Stick of Moses
Bible • Torah • Zabur • Scriptures • Qur'an
Eve • Wife of Noah • Wife of Lut • Sarah • Hagar • Zuleykha • Wives of the Prophet Muhammad (s)
Habil • Qabil • Son of Noah • Benyamin • Lady Fatimah al-Zahra' (a)
Hanif Religion • Islam • Judaism • Christianity
Opposers
Nimrod • Qarun • Pharaoh • Haman • Goliath • Abu Lahab • Samiri
Madyan (city) • Tur Sayna' • Al-Buq'at al-Mubaraka • Al-Aqsa Mosque
Talut • Queen of Sheba • Stories of the Qur'an • al-Khidr (a) • Joshua son of Nun • Prophethood • Prophets • Ulu l-'Azm • People of the book • Forbidden Tree • Heaven of Adam (a) • Sacrifice of Isma'il (a) • Ark of Noah (a) • Flood of Noah (a) • Al-Yunusiyya Dhikr • Carpet of Solomon • Shirt of the Joseph (a) • Terah • Disciples of Jesus (a) • Azar • Dhabih Allah • General Prophethood • Special Prophethood • Story of Khidr (a) and Moses (a) • Patience of the Ayyub (a) • Ahqaf
Prophethood
Finality of Prophethood • Revelation • Mu'jiza • Ulu l-'Azm • 'Ilm al-ghayb • Infallibility • General Prophethood • Special Prophethood
Adam (a) • Nuh (a) • Ibrahim (a) • Moses • Jesus (a)• Prophet Muhammad (s) • Isma'il (a) • Shu'ayb (a) • Salih (a) • Dhu l-Kifl (a) • Ilyas (a) • Idris (a) • Yunus (a) • Josef (a) • Jacob (a) • Harun (a) • Zachariah (a) • Yahya (a) • Ishaq (a) • David (a) • Ayyub (a) • Lut (a) • Hud (a) • 'Uzayr (a) • Solomon (a) • Ahmad (a) • Dhun-Nun (a) • al-Yasaʿ (a) • Imran (a) • Shayth (a) • Jirjis (a) • Habakkuk (a)
Claiments of Prophethood
Musaylama al-Kadhdhab • Sajah bt. Harith al-Tamimi • Taliha b. Khuwaylid • Harith b. Sa'id al-Kadhdhab • 'Ali Muhammad Shirazi • Ghulam Ahmad Qadiyani
Imamate • Sura al-Anbiya' • Sahw al-Nabi • Abandoning the Better • Tanzih al-Anbiya' • Al-Nur al-mubin fi qisas al-anbiya' wa l-mursalin • Period of Fatra
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Interim presiding board of Iran's new parliament, bottom, including speaker Ali Larijani, bottom center, take an oath in an open session of the parliament in Tehran, Iran, Sunday, May 29, 2016 (Photo: AP)
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The 59-year-old Ali Larijani's election marks an early victory for the moderate conservatives in the new parliament, which convened for the first time over the weekend.
State TV says that in Tuesday's vote, Larijani won 237 votes in his favor, out of 276 lawmakers present in the 290-seat house.
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By Steven Salzberg on 11/23/2015 04:45:00 AM
In the largely unregulated world of dietary supplements, it's like the Wild West. Dramatic claims abound, most of them unsupported by evidence, and it's hard to know if any of them can be trusted. Supplement manufacturers claim their products cure cancer, Alzheimer's disease, arthritis, and more. They promise miraculous weight loss results, nebulous "boosting" of your immune system, and anti-aging benefits.
Once in a while, though, they get caught. This week the U.S. cracked down hard on several of the more egregious offenders, announcing indictments against half a dozen supplement makers, including criminal charges against one.
It's about time. Consumers everywhere should applaud these actions and encourage more. Here's what happened.
On Tuesday, November 17, the U.S. Justice Department indicted USPlabs, a major supplement manufacturer whose products include Jack3d and OxyElite Pro. The Justice Department alleged that USPlabs "doctored packaging, labeling, and other paperwork to defraud others about what the product was." Further, the indictment points out that USPlabs claims that their products are made from natural plant extracts, when instead, as one USPlabs defendant put it:
"lol stuff is completely 100% synthetic."
The fraud runs even deeper: according to the Justice Department, after an outbreak of liver injuries associated with OxyElite Pro, in which some consumers needed liver transplants to save their lives,
"they [USPlabs] promised the FDA and the public that they would stop distributing the product at issue. They didn’t. Instead, they undertook a surreptitious, all-hands-on-deck effort to sell as much of the product as they could."
The criminal indictment, which led to the arrest of six USP employees and consultants, is just one of a sweeping set of actions over the past week. The Justice Department also filed six civil cases against other supplement makers for illegally claiming their products could cure diseases. The allegations include:
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Optimum Health (aka Lehan Enterprises) illegally sold a product called DMSO cream for arthritis and cancer.
Regenica Worldwide (aka Vivaceuticals) illegally sell their RegeneSlim as a disease cure, and in addition RegeneSlim contains DMAA, an unsafe food additive under the federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, but does not declare DMAA as an ingredient.
Just to be clear: none of these violations have yet been proven in court. But to be even more clear: none of these products treat or cure cancer, Alzheimer's, arthritis, or any other disease.
In addition to the DOJ actions, the Federal Trade Commission indicted three more supplement manufacturers for illegal advertising claims (that's the FTC's purview). One indictment, against Chrystal Ewing and her two companies, Health Nutrition Products LLC and Classic Productions LLC, alleged that:
"In ads for W8-B-Gone, CITRI-SLIM 4 and Quick & Easy diet pills, the defendants featured bogus weight-loss experts. Citing fake scientific studies, the defendants also deceptively claimed to have clinical proof that consumers would experience a 'RAPID FAT meltdown diet program' that lets them shed five pounds in four days with one pill, or up to 20 pounds in 16 days with four pills."
Needless to say, none of those products deliver the results they claim.
It's a jungle out there. As the FTC's Jessica Rich said, "People looking for a dietary supplement to improve their health have to wade through a swamp of misleading ads. Be skeptical of ads for supplements that claim to cure diseases, reverse the signs of aging or cause weight loss without diet or exercise.”
It appears that major supplement retailers such as GNC have dropped USPlabs like a hot potato: I couldn't find OxyElite Pro on any of their sites. However, despite the indictments and arrests, USPlabs is still marketing OxyElite Pro on their own site, where they tout it as the "#1 Selling Fat Burner", with a long list of other claims. What about the liver toxicity cited by the Justice Department? The OxyElite website claims:
"OxyELITE Pro shows no side effects in well over 99% of its users. In fact, USPLabs and GNC have stated that there’s been over a billion servings of Jack3d and Oxy ELITE Pro safely taken with no problems!"
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Caveat emptor: these supplements might contain harmful ingredients. There's only one safe way to take supplements: ask your physician. Unless your doctor specifically recommends one, stay away. You'll feel better and your wallet will benefit too.
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Callaway Rogue Q&A With Dr Alan Hocknell
By Martin Hopley
Callaway launch time means Doc Hock time and the Rogue range of clubs is no different. I caught up with Dr Alan Hocknell, SVP of Callaway's R&D team to ask the questions we all want to know.
Hi Alan. Why have you decided to call the new equipment Rogue rather than a variation of Epic?
That’s a good question and there a probably two reasons. The first is that we operate on two year product cycles at least so if there were to be another Epic product then it probably wouldn’t be for another year.
The other reason is that Rogue was actually an internal cry to ourselves, in that Epic has obviously done very well as a driver but there is more that we could do. Could we take the technology that we first introduced in Epic, most noticeably the Jailbreak technology, and could we explore how to take it further? Could we employ a little Rogue thinking, if you like, to the R&D process? Funnily enough quite often the names that are used in R&D for codenames and buzzwords that go around end up making their way somehow into the product naming and this is another example of that.
What is different about this Jailbreak compared to the implementation of it in the Epic driver?
Jailbreak in Epic was the first time we had managed to get that technology all the way through to a product level – get it through the production process, make it durable, make it have the ball speed advantages that it did. But a year later we have had 12 months longer to really refine that, we have made Jailbreak lighter and we have made it work in greater synergy with the face design.
The face of Rogue Driver is different from Epic and has a brand new X-face design. It is substantially thinner around the edges and it is a lighter face than we have had before and that works with Jailbreak even harder to give us more ball speed than we had even with Epic.
The Epic driver had carbon in the crown but also in the sole. In the Rogue there is no carbon in the sole so why is that?
There is a different weight distribution in Rogue vs Epic in particular Epic had a sliding weight in a track in the back of the head. Rogue instead features a much more stretched out shape with a single fixed weight a the back of the head so there is much more of an emphasis of weight going to the back of the head to produce large MOI and large forgiveness.
We worked out that when we stretched out the shape like that we had a decision to make whether to use carbon or not on the sole. We wanted quite aggressive sole styling as well as the rear weight positioning so in the end it turned out that we didn’t get that much of an advantage from having the carbon in the sole so we decided we would take it out in this particular case and introduce the much more interesting titanium appearance instead.
The Speed Step crown that has been on previous Callaway drivers for aerodynamics is there again but it now has one line instead of two. Why has that been modified?
Yes, you can definitely see the idea of the Speed Step being there on Rogue but what is harder to see are the subtle changes in the head shape themselves. We worked again with the team from Boeing to influence the way we shape the face and the transition to the crown.
We paid a lot of attention to that leading edge radius in the same way that Boeing would pay attention to the leading edge of a wing and we modified the airflow primarily using the shape of the head and therefore the Speed Step doesn’t need to do quite as big of a job because more of the airflow control comes from the actual shape of the head.
At address there is definitely a much bigger footprint with the stretched shape you have mentioned to give you the added forgiveness. Is there any reason why that wasn’t the original shape of Epic first time round?
Yes, some of it comes back to the mass properties and the distribution of that mass. When we have a sliding weight and a track that carries that sliding weight a certain amount of the weight is contained in the ability to have that quite important form of adjustability.
If you take that away it gives the designers more freedom to use that weight in other ways and in Rogue we decided to take that weight and stretch the dimensions of the head out, really emphasising weight at the back and front of the head, to give us high MOI.
So we take what we had with Epic, which was great ball speed, we used the new Jailbreak to enhance that ball speed and produced a much more forgiving driver than we had in Epic, and we think that gives this driver a different stance than the Epic driver.
You have two versions of the Rogue, the standard and the Sub Zero that is lower spin, and the Sub Zero Rogue actually looks larger than the original standard Epic so is it more forgiving even being the low spin version?
It is. Actually it has similar MOI numbers to the original Epic driver so that is good in that we have produced the really low spin characteristics in a driver with a large MOI.
A lot of that influence came from Tour players saying that they weren’t so enamoured with the really big shapes, but the ones with the shape and size of Epic had great proportions for them, so producing low spin characteristics with high MOI in that shape was really the design challenge that the Tour gave us and that challenge gave rise to the Rouge Sub Zero.
Is it the case that for some people Epic may still be better than Rogue?
I think that could be the case. For players who really value a high fidelity fitting where you can use the adjustable sliding weight to really dial in shot shape I think there is definitely something there for that type of player. Then there are a lot of people whose friend has the Epic and they just want the same one as them.
We also we don’t expect 100% of our Tour players to completely convert and in some cases you just get a situation where the players get very comfortable with a driver. They are both extremely good drivers. Epic gives you a slightly different take on fitting than Rouge where Rogue has less fittable attributes if you like but it has much more forgiveness.
Going back to the Jailbreak technology in Rogue can you explain the changes you have made in terms of shape to a more hourglass outline and the advantages that has brought to the new driver?
Yes, that was part of the idea of working on refinements to Jailbreak over the year that it is behind Epic in terms of the product cycle. We looked at a great number of different Jailbreak variants along the way, starting out with what we had originally with Epic, and then going through a number of different ideas, and ending up back at two vertical titanium bars but this time with more slender sections. This allowed us to take weight out of them whilst still maintaining the stiffness that we needed.
With Epic there was no Jailbreak in the Epic fairway woods but this time round with the Rogue fairways you have Jailbreak. What allowed you to move the technology to the smaller heads?
The truth is that with Epic we still hadn’t figured out how to get the Jailbreak technology into the fairway woods. Fairway woods are different to drivers, they are not just scaled down versions. The fairways already had Face Cup technology in them which we think is the best ball speed generating technology available for a fairway wood. The shape and size is very different where you have a much shallower height relative to the width of a fairway wood and also impact locations tend to be lower on the face when you are hitting off the fairway.
Also we already had a relatively stiff part of our fairway wood in the internal standing wave and the sole, so you start from a different place than you do with a driver, with other difference being that you are working with stainless steel in the fairway wood.
It is not just a case of a cut and paste of the technology for Jailbreak technology from the driver to the fairway. We had all these variables to contend with so we went through a similar development and research journey to the driver but a year or so behind.
We did end up figuring out though that two vertical bars is a viable solution for fairway woods and does produce a lot of the same effect in terms of stiffening the head vertically and making the face deflect more during impact and giving you more ball speed so we are now really pleased to have that in our fairway woods for the first time.
What were the biggest challenges in making that work? Did you have to modify the face in anyway?
In many ways the Face Cup stays very similar but it had to have slightly shorter return flanges in order to accommodate the Jailbreak position we wanted in terms of its proximity to the back of the face. Obviously casting in stainless steel presents a different problem versus casting in titanium.
A lot of the stainless steel castings we use are gravity fed so it was hard to get the material to fill the bars without having issues such as porosity that would create failures. A number of challenges that had to be overcome. The inside of a fairway wood is a small, confined and complicated shape so being able to produce the tooling to create Jailbreak where the bars are cast into the body was another challenge different from a driver.
In that case you must have had even more challenges with the hybrid as it is even smaller and you’ve put them in that as well!
That’s right! If you take the problems of the fairway wood and you amplify them in the hybrid, but luckily a lot of the performance research that allowed us to develop the fairway wood also applied to the hybrid but then it is even more challenging. You have got increasing loft, a smaller head, so all those were even bigger production challenges for the hybrid.
We managed to do it in the end. There is a lot of tenacity in the team. Part of the problem was in understanding the performance and would it work but at least half of the problem is in the production and the controls that are required in order to make sure that the parts, one after another after another, for thousands and thousands, are all up to the standards we want for COR and for durability. There was a big effort that went into that and it has been successful.
What are the benefits for Jailbreak in the hybrids? Is it the ball speed benefits you get in the other clubs?
Yes we are looking to enhance ball speed anytime we put Jailbreak into a product that is its job and it does produce an effect similar to the driver. The driver has the largest Jailbreak effect, with the fairways and hybrids a little bit smaller but it trends in a very similar fashion with a ball speed enhancing effect.
With the fairway woods when you have got more ball speed we wanted to investigate how to convert that into distance so we have changed the centre of gravity position that has allowed us to have a trajectory that launches higher with less spin and produces an overall flatter flight than it otherwise wood.
So an easy to launch, still high but flat flight, and that converts ball speed into distance very efficiently so you see pretty significant distance gains for the fairway woods and the hybrids.
So why have you gone for that flatter flight?
That was the recipe that we felt was becoming more popular, certainly with the elite players, launching the ball really high isn’t something they are into, and for average players, as long as we can produce sufficient launch angle to give you airtime then people aren’t so sensitive to the appearance of the trajectory so if it goes further which a flatter flight does then everybody wins.
Does it not bring issues with the descent angle and stopping the ball?
With respect to the descent angle what we have been able to show is that within a degree or two there isn’t really any impact on the effect of the ball whether you do want it to roll out if you are still on the fairway potentially or if you don’t want it to roll out because you are hitting the green we are still in the same range of descent angles and stopping power that we had before.
There is no carbon in the crown of the hybrid but there is in the fairway and the driver and you have carbon in the Epic hybrid which is a smaller head. Why is that?
One of the things about the weight balance in the fairway woods and the hybrids to take notice of is that vertical weight balance is a big deal and in these Rogue fairway woods and hybrids they are not adjustable in the hosel but in the Epic models they are so that adjustable hosel is slightly heavier and steel than it would otherwise be so the hosels in Rogue are lighter than they would be in Epic.
Therefore in the case of the hybrid we don’t need to try quite so hard to make the centre of gravity go down because we have already got a lighter hosel. In the fairway wood we did put carbon in the crown because we wanted to really make a significant difference to the CG position to make to the chance in the trajectory I talked about earlier.
So to carry on moving down the bags let’s talk about the Rogue irons. Tell me what is the Swiss Cheese effect?!
So you are talking about our urethane with microspheres!
What we are trying to do is accomplish something we haven’t been able to do before. We are trying to go up in COR, so up in ball speed, and in order to do that you have to make the face more flexible.
When you make the face more flexible the impact creates vibration in the face and in the rest of the body of the iron such as when the ball has left you hear a sound that is too loud, too long a duration and probably too high pitched, it doesn’t essentially fell all that good, and it crossed the threshold into “no, people won’t buy this, it’s not good”.
So the question we asked ourselves is could you get all that ball speed and do something to the iron that improves the feel without taking anything away from the ball speed. We did a lot of exploration and found that if we took a very soft urethane material and mixed into it thousands of microscopic hollow glass spheres you produce a material that somewhat behaves like it is porous or a bit like a sponge even.
If you inject that into the back of the head into the cavity behind the face when the face deflects the material also sort of collapses on itself, it doesn’t provide any resistance to the flexing of the face, so the loss in ball speed is zero, but when the ball has left and the face wants to vibrate that material creates a damping effect and reduces the duration of the sound, the loudness and the pitch and produces much better feel.
A bit of a tangential way of going about getting more ball speed really is to go and look for a material that would allow us to damp out unwanted vibrations. With the spheres it looks a bit like Swiss Cheese so that's how it got that name internally.
In terms of the design of the rest of the head is that about making a faster Face Cup?
Yes we’ve got a thinner face with a different thickness pattern in it. Preferentially a little thicker in the centre and much thinner at the edges, particularly heel and toe and low on the face where people tend to miss with irons.
Another thing that we’ve done is try to move the centre of gravity to a point directly behind the centre of the face and we have done that with tungsten loaded steel that is made with a process called metal injection moulding. That was first seen our very expensive to make Epic irons and we have taken some of that technology and put it into the Rogue iron.
So we have got an iron in the middle part of the market in terms of price point that has much more technology in it than we have ever had before. Obviously the face cup is improved, there is a new body, metal injection moulded tungsten weights and the urethane microsphere all working in harmony with one another to produce great ball speed and great trajectory and great feel.
You mentioned the market there. There are three models, there is Rogue, Rogue Pro and Rogue X, and also a lightweight version. Where do they fit in your range in terms of market positioning?
The Rogue standard iron we see as the centre of the game improvement market. We have been number one in iron sales for a little while now and that has come to be the definition of a game improvement iron and that anchors the whole line.
One step to the better player side you have the Rogue Pro model which has a thinner top line, thinner sole width and shorter blade length, less offset. All the same technologies but in a smaller, thinner, more slender package that usually suits the better player, a little more workable perhaps.
On the other side of the game improvement irons is a brand new idea in Rogue X. It is the sort of iron you have never before because it has got all of the technologies that are in the game improvement iron for the first time.
We have put it in a slightly larger head that gives us a bigger dimension from the face to the back of the club so the CG is further back from the face, all of which helps us with launch angle. So we have got that new technology package in the head configured differently on a set of heads that are stronger lofted unashamedly, they are lighter overall, the club is about 10g lighter and they are on slightly longer shafts in certain parts of the bag.
So we have taken this opportunity of all this new technology that is in the standard Rogue iron and reconfigured it in a quite aggressive way to produce an iron that is unashamedly all about distance. So if you want to hit irons particularly long then Rogue X gives you the best opportunity to do that.
We encourage people to go and try that out before they just look at the spec sheet and say this is strong lofted or it’s long shafted or something like that. Go and try for yourself because what we have seen is that although we have made changes to loft and length and weight versus the standard iron the launch angles that people get are very similar to the standard model, you just have less spin and more ball speed and that is a recipe for more distance.
Does that not affect the gapping at the bottom of the set? The clubs go down to sand wedge so is it a case of just moving the numbers around a little bit?
There is a little bit you could think of that. If we had just taken the regular game improvement club and shifted the numbers by one then we would say, “Yes it’s a fair cop that’s what we did”. But we didn’t do that.
We really studied the performance of each iron and we changed the shape of the head from the standard model in order to get other advantages. The truth is thought that there is a new 'G' wedge in the set to give you the gapping at the upper end.
Down at the lower end the Rogue X hybrid is also configured similarly, it is a larger headed hybrid with more MOI, slightly longer and lighter, slightly stronger lofted and it dovetails well into the other end of the set so you have got the opportunity to have a really different, distance oriented set of clubs.
Thanks Alan
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Rodney Crowell Shines A Spotlight On Nashville Based Non-Profit Music Health Alliance At 3rd Annual Celebrity Barn Dance
Photo Credit: Eric Adkins
Life and art collided over the weekend at the 3rd Annual Celebrity Barn Dance in Thompson’s Station, Tennessee. Grammy winning artist Rodney Crowell had just wrapped sound check and was preparing to host hundreds of guests at The Jaeckle Centre when cardiac symptoms forced him to leave for the emergency room. While doctors were able to stabilize and discharge him later that night, his health crisis shone a spotlight on the very cause he was there to support – Music Health Alliance.
Twenty-time Grammy winner Vince Gill – along with an all-star band including Colin Linden and Paul Franklin – was joined by friends and fellow musical superstars Ashley Monroe, Emmylou Harris and Wendy Moten, entertaining the crowd with more than 2.5 hours of music and dancing late into the night. As the night was drawing to a close, Crowell surprised the audience, taking the stage for the final two songs following his release from the hospital.
The event held Saturday, October 29 in Thompson’s Station, Tennessee at The Jaeckle Centre, the South’s Premiere Equine Facility and the largest barn in the South, raised more than $50,000 to benefit Music Health Alliance. The Nashville based non-profit, which provides compassionate and patient-driven healthcare advocacy and support, has secured over $12 million dollars in life-changing healthcare resources in just three years and enabled access to doctors, medicine, health insurance and financial assistance for 4,600 music industry entrepreneurs and professionals.
“Tonight was so poignant and represents exactly what Music Health Alliance is all about,” said Music Health Alliance Founder & Executive Director, Tatum Hauck Allsep. “When one of our own falls we are there to help them get back up again. This is exactly what the legendary artists, musicians, volunteers and The Jaeckle Centre family did in honor of Rodney tonight while carrying on the mission of Music Health Alliance to Heal The Music.”
The only event of its kind in the U.S., guests were invited to leave their heels at home and slip on their dancing shoes while world class artists Crowell, Gill, Monroe and Harris along with Linden and Moten, brought to life a truly authentic barn dance experience as they and their All-Star band performed fan favorites and requests from the dance floor.
By Torben MacCarter|2016-10-31T10:11:15+00:00October 31st, 2016|Categories: Music, Country, Nashville, Vince Gill, Rodney Crowell, Ashley Monroe|Tags: Vince Gill, Rodney Crowell, Ashley Monroe|0 Comments
About the Author: Torben MacCarter
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By Sharkfu • 7 years ago
Notes from a bitch – making the case for Sue Shear by trying to cut funding for it…
Let’s jump right on in, shall we?
I’ve long said that people need to keep a close watch on their state legislature. I’m a Missourian and my state Assembly meets for five months each year. That means five months of watching the Republicans who control both the House and Senate file bills to restrict access to reproductive health care, drug test people who receive food assistance, and cut funding for social programs to the bone.
Even with that wretched history, I was surprised by a Republican amendment to cut funding for the Sue Shear Institute created to increase the number of women in government, civic and policymaking roles.
In my defense, my surprise comes from the fact that the Sue Shear Institute for Women in Public Life has had many a Republican woman participate in programs and mentor program participants. And I’m not talking about moderate Republicans. No, I’m talking about unquestionably conservative Republican women participating in the Sue Shear Institute such U.S. Rep. JoAnn Emerson, former State Treasurer Sarah Steelman, former U.S. Ambassador Ann Wagner, and former Missouri House Speaker Catherine Hanaway.
I should note that the institute is named after Democrat Sue Shear, who was the longest serving woman in the Missouri House with 26 years in office.
Yeah, I was surprised but that emotion quickly gave way to amazement.
Republican Rep. Sue Allen just made the case for why we need the Sue Shear Institute by sponsor the amendment to cut funds for it.
If Allen had been through the program she’d know that Missouri lacks a true representation of women in public life and why that’s not a good thing, she would have heard of the many Republican woman who support and participated in the program, and she’d have learned how to research an institution receiving public funding so she could avoid making a fool of herself by making baseless accusations.
Let’s hope the Assembly accepts this public example of why we need the Sue Shear Institute for Women in Public Life and abandons plans to cut funding.
Missouri’s legislative session ends this week.
Let the countdown begin!
Sharkfu
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Feminist Fuck Yeah: Frustrated, Underfunded Public Defender Assigns Case to Governor
By Dana Bolger
To the corporations and entertainers boycotting states with anti-LGBT legislation
By Katie Barnes
Missouri State Representative is an Embryo Vigilante
By Jacqui Germain
By Dana Bolger • @danabolger • 3 years ago
On Tuesday, Michael Barrett, who oversees Missouri’s grossly underfunded public defender system, sent a blunt, brilliant, and quite public little missive to Missouri Governor Jay Nixon.
It reads, in part:
Seven years ago, your office vetoed Senate Committee Substitute for Senate Bill No. 37, which would have provided caseload relief to an overburdened public defender system[...] You have repeatedly cut funding for an indigent defense system that continues to rank 49th in the U.S.
Th[ese] action[s] come even after the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice found that poor black children are being systematically deprived of their rights in Missouri due in large part to the lack of public defenders. Choosing in the wake of that report to further ...
Seven years ago, your office vetoed Senate ...
By Katie Barnes • @Katie_Barnes3 • 3 years ago
I get it, I really do. You don’t want to give your business and generate revenue in states that are passing discriminatory laws. In recent weeks, legislatures in North Carolina and Mississipi have passed an anti-trans “bathroom law” and a broad “religious freedom” law respectively, and legislators in Tennessee and Missouri introduced anti-LGBT legislation. The public backlash has been swift. From corporations to entertainers to cities, many are taking a stand and boycotting these states, with a particular focus on North Carolina. The outpouring of support touches me deeply as someone who identifies as queer. In a world where I sometimes feel so alone, to witness the coalescing of voices to combat such hatred is truly breathtaking.
Although I ...
I get it, I really do. You don’t want to give your business and generate revenue in states that are passing discriminatory laws. In recent weeks, legislatures in North Carolina and Mississipi have passed an anti-trans “bathroom ...
By Jacqui Germain • @@jaykayg • 3 years ago
Surprise, surprise. Missouri’s state representatives are coming for our rights—again. This time, the threat comes in the form of an ultra-archaic resolution pushed forward by Republican Missouri Rep. Mike Moon. Because once again, as we all know, none-uterus-having humans are just so good at proposing laws and regulations regarding other people’s bodies.
This latest anti-choice resolution, originally proposed by Moon two months ago, would recognize fetuses as human beings in the Missouri state constitution. More specifically, the bill seeks to grant the right to life to “unborn children at every stage of biological development”—a tactic that reproductive justice organizers are certainly familiar with.
This past Tuesday, a Missouri House committee passed the resolution, while making a few amendments: All exceptions that ...
Surprise, surprise. Missouri’s state representatives are coming for our rights—again. This time, the threat comes in the form of an ultra-archaic resolution pushed forward by Republican Missouri Rep. Mike Moon. Because once again, as we all know, none-uterus-having ...
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The Filmmaking Research Network screening and talk
Cinecity Film Festival, Wednesday 15th November 2019
Attenborough Centre for the Creative Arts, Brighton
‘The Acting Class’
Dir: Deirdre O’Neill and Mike Wayne. UK 2017. 77 mins.
Exploring the difficulties people from working class backgrounds face when trying to get into the acting profession, The Acting Class follows actor Tom Stocks, who set up the Actor Awareness campaign to challenge the lack of opportunities for working-class actors after he was unable to afford fees for drama school. Among those who will featured in the documentary are actors Christopher Eccleston, Maxine Peake and Julie Hesmondhalgh who discuss how much things have changed and how they would not be able to follow their dreams if they were starting out now. The film poses the question why should acting or any of the arts be the preserve of the rich and what are the consequences when they are?
The screening will be followed by a Q&A with directors Mike Wayne and Deirdre O’Neill, who teach film and television at Brunel University, chaired by Joanna Callaghan.
Presented by the MA Masterclass Programme of the School of Media, Film and Music, University of Sussex and the Filmmaking Research Network.
www.attenboroughcentre.com/events/1465/the-acting-class
Freedom to Play: Pros & Cons of Filmmaking as Research
Sheffield Documentary Festival, June 2018
A panel of filmmakers and academics explore the growing trend of straddling filmmaking and academic lives and discuss the pros and cons of making films as research. Academia can free film-makers from conventional narratives and forms, allowing for experiments in creative storytelling. But does their work impact in academia as traditional ‘research’ and what influence have their films in the broadcast industry?”
www.sheffdocfest.com/sessions/6311
Filmmaking in the Academy
A screening presented by the Filmmaking Research Network (FRN) – 60 minutes
The Elephant Theatre, Southbank University, MeCCSA Conference, January 2018
The following films were selected from the FRN register of films, a database of films produced within universities in the UK and Australia. A screening handout can be downloaded here.
Woman with an Editing Bench, 15’, 2016
Karen Pearlman, Macquarie University, Australia
Inspired by a true story, “Woman with an Editing Bench” pays homage to the creativity of Elizaveta Svilova – the unsung editor behind the 1929 documentary masterpiece “Man with a Movie Camera”. It uses her revolutionary editing techniques to reveal her thoughts and recuperate her legacy in the history of cinema.
Shock of the Muse, 9’, 2016
Inga Burrows, University of South Wales, UK
Finding her feet on day one as a naked life model, the young muse draws courage from her past training as a Girl Guide.
Muddskipping, 11’, 2016
Phoebe Hart and Joe Carter, Queensland University of Technology, Australia
Dance, music and film combine in the mangroves.
The Crossing, 14’, 2016/17
Shrepali Patel, Anglia Ruskin, UK
This emotionally heightened multi-screen installation investigates the exploitation of hope and the black market economy of human trafficking.
The Q, 7’, 2015
Leo Berkeley, Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology (RMIT), Australia
‘The Q’ is a short essay film about what we think about when we wait in lines.
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The Sorcerer's Apprentice by Trevor Rabin (Review)
Trevor Rabin’s scores are unmistakable and are incredibly fun. With The Sorcerer’s Apprentice I honestly believe Rabin has delivered his best score in quite some time. With Jerry Bruckheimer producing and John Turteltaub directing I’m sure he felt right at home.
The Sorcerer’s Apprentice lets Rabin flex his action muscles like we haven’t heard in a while. He is able to balance some light fun cues with some incredibly grand and intense ones. The album opens with an appropriate homage to the Dukas piece from Fantasia and then a pretty big homage to Hans Zimmer. I don’t know exactly why Jack Sparrow’s theme is blatantly in the first track, but it is and I loved it. Rabin’s familiar arrangements flourish with stunning thematic material and get backed with a chorus on occasion. The main theme echoes in almost every cue giving this score its identity. Percussion, riffing guitars and pulsing strings keep the adrenaline level high. Yes, there were moments in this score that got the hairs on the back of my neck standing on end, which I didn’t expect. “The Urn” and “Car Chase” are two standout cues that bleed Trevor Rabin and are incredible.
Think what you want about the movie and all, but the score itself is a true delight and will please Rabin fans immensely. Toss this one up with Armageddon as one of his most memorable action scores. Like Armageddon it is heavy on the action cues with an epic quality, but has a fair amount of emotion laced into it. I think you’ll be surprised as to how invested you will become with this score as you listen through it.
One thing that I notice about the film composers I love is how they strive in simplicity, and Trevor Rabin is no exception. The melodies and tunes are simple and if that composer is talented then those simple tunes will have an enormous emotional effect. The score will also take the film it’s accompanying and make it soar.
Nice review! I am a Trevor Rabin fan as well as a film music fan. One thing though. It might sound a little like Pirates because the original tune is in "Asteroid Chase" off of the Armageddon soundtrack. Zimmer definately gets some of his Pirates score from Rabin's track. Great to see a blog about film scores. I shall be returning to read more! Keep up the great work!
Are you talking about a different track? There's no track titled "Asteroid Chase" on the Armageddon score.
It might actually be an isolated section of the score from the movie that isn't on the soundtrack. There is a Youtube video for it. Originally, since the track name wasn't on the soundtrack, I checked to see if it was bogus, but it is the part when the shuttle is getting ready to go around the moon and catch up with the asteroid. If you want to hear it, all you have to do is type asteriod chase in youtube search.
Andre October 3, 2010 at 11:50 PM
I think that was a Gregson-williams cue. He co-wrote almost half the ARMAGEDDON score.
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Charleston (SC) Mercury, "Runaway Negros," February 15, 1858
"Runaway Negros," Charleston (SC) Mercury, February 15, 1858, p. 1.
New York Journal of Commerce
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Runaway Negros
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RUNAWAY NEGROS. - The Albany correspondent of the New York Journal of Commerce writes: "I saw the other day six runaway negoes marched through the streets under the protection of Stephen Myers, a blackman, who claims to be the President of the "Underground Railroad," but who is really the agent of an abolition organization which occupies itself in running off darkies from New York to Canada. These six colored individuals were paraded through our streets in a dusk procession, and after visiting the office of a distinguished Anti-slavery gentleman, who at present holds a political appointment of responsibility in New York, were conducted to the sole door of a leading Freesoil Journal. Here, I doubt not, they were hospitably entertained. Persons lately returned from Canada represent that the back settlements there are rapidly increasing and fast becoming positive nuisances. One half, at least of these runaways expect to be supported by the charity of the whites, and are forming the nucleus of a race of black paupers, whose situation is rendered doubly uncomfortably by the rigors of an unaccustomed climate. Worse than this - these settlements are becoming wretchedly demoralized and the result is exhibited in a race of low mongrels given over to sloth, drunkenness and debauchery. How long our sensible Canadian friends will continue to allow this infusion of black blood remains to be seen, but I cannot believe that they are desirous of surrounding themselves with a population, which like some of the confused races of South America, have all the vices of the whites, and many of the virtues of the blacks."
How to Cite This Page: "Charleston (SC) Mercury, "Runaway Negros," February 15, 1858," House Divided: The Civil War Research Engine at Dickinson College, http://hd.housedivided.dickinson.edu/node/1181.
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Nobody Expected This Spanish Inquisition
Wednesday morning, 10:30 am, asleep (don't judge me, late working and then the cinema, Hidden Figures, very good, anyway), my phone begins to vibrate, I check it, a tweet from @LesRosbifs, "Completely blindsided. I suspect @IndycarUK will be skipping about with this news." I was just thinking what the hell is going on? My jaw hit the floor, well, figuratively. Wait, Aprils fools right? Surely? A quick screenshot on twitter and an even quicker response from Andretti Autosport pointing out it was April 12th, and that they are looking forward to working with McLaren at the Indy 500.
So who expected that? Not me, well, I tell a slight lie, I thought one day Fernando Alonso might give the 500 a go, but only once his time in Formula One was done. But to skip the Monaco GP, with the support and blessing of the team, not only was he, but McLaren bringing their name back to the speedway for the first time since 1979 when they had Sneva, McCluskey and Rutherford as part of a three pronged attack, no one can honestly say they expected yet.
Alonso in a McLaren at Indianapolis in 2007 (Indycar Media)
So why now? Alonso had made it no secret his desire to run the Indy 500 as well as the 24 Hours of Le Mans, and had previously disclosed this a number of years ago to F1 journalist Nigel Roebuck. It would be fair to say his current car is not the best he has had, power and reliability problems have dogged the team in recent years, Alonso is in the final year of his contract so was this a sweetener to keep a prized asset on their books? Possibly, new owners of the team too would like to see their team in a positive light to, so an expansion into Indycar, sports car racing is one avenue.
Mark Miles and Doug Boles discuss the Alonso / Mclaren 500 deal (Indycar Media)
How about Indycar, what does this do for them? In my opinion this is the biggest news to hit the series in 25 years, back to when Nigel Mansell, the then current world champion left F1 for the States and won the championship in his first year. This is not a Barrichello at the end of his career, or an Alesi out for a Sunday drive, this is a driver who in the right car (engine) is a contender and whose on track skills are among the best of his generation. When Barrichello joined the series full time, it was a real shot in the arm for Indycar at the time, but it has had nowhere near the media impact that the past few days have. Then again those times were a lot different for the series compared to now. The ground work by the management in those early reunified years was a start but politics and changes at the top brought things to a stuttering halt. This has not been an issue in recent years, management has been stable and the marketing team has grown to double the size.
What will this do for the Indy 500? I should ask what will this do for the 101st Indy 500, last May was one of the most unbelievable experiences you could have. The build up, the event, the crowd, the race, it was not a let down in the slightest. The question was how can IMS improve on that, or even hold station? This announcement has given them chance. As for the race itself, the worlds' attention is on IMS, Indycar and the 500 again, the like which would not have been seen since the early nineties. You can see the majority of positive reaction from drivers in F1, team bosses who think this is great for Fernando. Some not so, maybe the 500 does not fit with their social plans or maybe some see it as too big a risk, but as Alonso said, he's a racer. He knows the risk, it's their no matter where you go.
The media centre was busy last year, I can only imagine a few more reporters from further afield will be in attendance this year, more column inches, posts, blogs and beyond. The positive publicity gained by McLaren and Andretti has put them at the forefront of promotional materials for this years race, as will Stefan Wilson whose selfless act in stepping aside has gained him praise, and a guaranteed run in 2018.
Do I give Alonso a chance of winning the race? I do, he's is 16/1 with a leading bookmaker here, but on track he will have ample opportunity to practice, turn laps, tweak the car. Running in traffic and notably overtaking will be something I'm sure will appeal again to Alonso. If I was to break the field into three groups, I'd happily have him in the top of the second tier, experience is a key factor at Indy, but who saw Rossi winning from nowhere last year. You'd like to add the caveat that he would return to defend his title!
Token Pagoda shot (Indycar Media)
The fan friendly atmosphere will be something new from the secure financially restrictive confines of F1, constant autographs, pictures, questions will be an experience, but he may thrive it in, who know may even catch a bug that I did from the outside.
I followed CART through Chanel Five late night highlights on 'Live and Dangerous' but when those disappeared in the early noughties, my interest in the series waned as my favourite team and drivers had jumped across to the IRL. I had kept something of an interest in the Indy 500 itself, I'd listen to the commentary on the race control website, but with the full coverage only being on the expensive Sky Sports platform, that was it. When the two open wheel series reunified in 2008, I sat up took notice and thought it may be time to see how this develops, it was that actual article.
In 2010 I checked the Indy 500 off my bucket list. It grabbed me, like nothing sporting wise I had previously experienced. Time to test it out again, so came back to the races in Texas, Milwaukee, Iowa and Las Vegas. TV was still struggling, the worst way possible to end the season, the attendance was mixed to poor, you could count the crowd at Milwaukee. I always wanted to see someone from F1 come and try the 500, but realistically I knew it would more than likely not happen for a very long time, if ever, this wasn't the sixties anymore.
It was clear then that the series had a long way to go to rediscover those previous glory years. It is not back to those days yet, will it ever? It is hard to say but Indycar finds itself a lot further down the road to success than a decade ago, and having a double world champion, a championship winning team in the field on Memorial Weekend can only push them further along, for me, maybe I will have managed to pull my jaw back up by the time May comes around.
For those reading this who haven't followed Indycar from the UK before, all the races are live on the BT Sport network of channels with uninterpreted green flag coverage, the 101st Indy 500 is on the 28th May from around 5pm, post Monaco GP, in case you missed the news...
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Great Article! Spot on with the Mixed Reactions among Drivers in F1! I was shocked myself and can. Ot wait for the 101st Indy500!
Good, I think this year the indy 500 will have a bigger viewing rating.
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Competitions, FEI, Show Jumping
Unstoppable Swedes Make It Two-in-a-Row at Hickstead
July 27, 2019 Associate Editor Leave a comment
Team Sweden. (FEI/Liz Gregg)
There was a ring of familiarity about the super win by Team Sweden in the Longines FEI Jumping Nations Cup™ of Great Britain at Hickstead (GBR), where Ireland lined up second ahead of Italy in third and the reigning series champions from Belgium had to settle for fourth place. It’s fewer than two weeks since the Swedes celebrated success at the fifth round of the Europe Division 1 series on home ground at Falsterbo where super-hero, Peder Fredricson, sealed it with a breath-taking double-clear performance in the closing stages.
And he did it again, but under a lot less pressure, because it was all done and dusted without the help of last-line team member Rolf-Goran Bengtsson. The Swedes are very definitely on a roll right now, and Chef d’Equipe Henrik Ankarcrona was rightly proud as his country lifted the prestigious Edward Prince of Wales Trophy for the very first time in the history of the competition that dates all the way back to 1947.
“It has been a fantastic year in the Nations Cup so far. Geesteren (round 4 in The Netherlands) was not the best for us, but we came back strong in Falsterbo. And I was told yesterday that Sweden has never won here in Hickstead, so I said let’s do it!” — Henrik Ankarcrona (Chef d’Equipe Team Sweden)
They were always on target after establishing the lead at the end of the first round on a zero score, just as they did on home ground a fortnight ago. Fredrik Jonsson (46) and Cold Play kicked off with a clear tour of the formidable Hickstead fences and when Angelie von Essen (40) and Luikan Q, and then Fredricson (47) and his relatively new ride, Zacramento, followed suit then anchorman Rolf-Goran Bengtsson’s (56) help wasn’t needed so he decided to stay on the sidelines with Oak Grove’s Carlyle this time around.
But Ireland and Belgium were in hot pursuit with just four faults apiece as the second round began, and the Italians were also close behind with just five on the board. Team USA carried eight, Brazil carried nine and Germany already had 13 on their scorecard. The masterful Marcus Ehning breezed in with a first-round clear with Comme Il Faut while horseman supreme, double-Olympic Eventing champion Michael Jung, collected just four faults with Fischerchelsea, but despite faultless second efforts from both men the final German tally of 21 left them well out of contention.
British chances were dashed at the outset with a fall at the 4m-wide open water for the pathfinding partnership of Amanda Derbyshire and Roulette BH, and the hosts eventually finished last of the eight competing nations. With only the last leg of the Europe Division 1 series left to go, at Dublin (IRL) in two weeks’ time, they now have a lot to do to qualify amongst the top seven nations that will make the cut to the Longines Final in Barcelona (ESP) in October. There was reassuring news about both the British rider and her horse, however.
“Amanda is all good, just a superficial injury to her face,” said Hickstead’s Edward Bunn. “The horse had an x-ray and nothing special was found and he is now being transported to the closest clinic to be observed,” he explained.
Despite a spectacular double-clear from their last-line duo, Yves Vanderhaselt and the lovely mare Jeunesse, the Belgians slipped off the radar in the second round and once Von Essen and Fredricson posted their second clears of the day, the Swedes were already in the club-house and it was left to the Irish and Italians to battle it out for runner-up spot in the closing stages.
And double-clears from pathfinder Anthony Condon (Aristio) and anchorman Paul O’Shea (Imerald van’t Voorhof) sealed it for the boys in green who completed on eight faults, while only the single time faults picked up in both rounds by Italian anchor Bruno Chimirri (Tower Mouche) separated the Italians who lined up third on a total of 10.
Fredricson said that it’s the great team spirit in the Swedish side that’s giving them the edge right now and he heaped praise on the British venue.
“It’s great to come to a show like this – Hickstead has its own personality and asks its own unique questions that give an extra dimension to our sport, and that makes it very special,” he said. He also complimented his team-mates. “Angelie is a super rider and has a new horse, and Fredrik is an old friend of mine – we were both Eventing together long before we started Jumping and I’m really happy for him doing so well now!” he added.
“The team made my day easy today!” said Bengtsson, who jumped a few fences and then retired in the second round as his services were not required. “At the moment we really have quite some good combinations of riders and horses and it will not be easy for the Chef d’Equipe to make his selection for the European Championships coming soon!” he pointed out. The Championships in Rotterdam (NED) are indeed only a few short weeks away and on everyone’s mind.
But for now, it’s party-time again for the Swedes and their supporters. “I feel really proud that the Swedish name will now be on this great trophy!” Fredricson said.
When asked how he so consistently copes with pressure under fire, the world no. 2, Olympic silver medallist, and reigning European champion replied, “I just focus on jumping a clear round inside the time! Everybody feels pressure in a team competition; you always want to do well so it’s really important to celebrate the good times and to enjoy a great evening together afterwards – we are going to do that again tonight!”
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By Louise Parkes
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Q & A (Others)
Mosque Prayer Times
Category: Psychological Problems
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I am a twenty-four year old woman. I feel sad almost all the time, and have no desire to make contact with people. I feel very lonely and as if nothing could make me happy, even though I offer all the obligatory prayers, even Fajr on time, I pray qiyam al-layl, I read a juz of Quran every day in order to complete it once every month, I try to draw closer to Allah and I have performed ‘Umrah more than once. But these feelings are not going away. Praise be to Allah, I am blessed, my life is pretty good and is better than many, praise be to Allah. I acknowledge that and I give thanks to Allah for it; I hope that He will not call me to account for my negative feelings. But I do not know what is the cause of these bad feelings. This has been going on for more than a year, and started before the unfortunate developments that have occurred in the Arab world. It has gotten worse with the killings in our country and the loss of relatives of some friends of mine. How can I overcome this negativity?
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Firstly:
First of all, we would like to welcome you to the Islam Q&A website. We ask Allah to benefit us and you by means of what we say, and to relieve us and our Muslim ummah of distress.
Noble sister… Trouble is inevitable in the life of this world; this is how Allah has decreed it and He has made it a place of trials and tests, and a bridge to the Hereafter. Even the best of His creation, the prophets, were never free of troubles. Life is never plain sailing for anyone, young or old. You may have reason to rejoice one day, then reason to feel sad for many other days; this is how it always is in the life of this world and this is how people are all the time.
Who among us has not felt grief and sorrow as a result of the calamities we see befalling the Muslims, day after day? Who among us has not lost interest in this world and everything in it, because of what we hear or see?
But when these feelings of sadness and loneliness or bad moods persist and prevent us from living a normal life or carrying out the duties that are required of us, or fulfilling the rights of others, or they cause us to neglect the blessings of Allah which He has bestowed upon us and fail to give thanks for as we should, at that point sadness moves from being something natural to being a case of weakness and sickness that needs to be treated.
There is no greater remedy for that than patience and fearing Allah, and thinking positively of Allah, the Lord of the Worlds, putting one’s trust in Him, delegating one’s affairs to Him and turning to Him in all times of calamity.
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
Many people, when they see evil or when the Muslim ummah goes through a lot of trouble, panic, lose hope and start complaining as people who are beset by calamities do. But this is forbidden; rather what is enjoined is to be patient, to put one’s trust in Allah, to be steadfast in adhering to the religion of Islam and to believe that Allah is with those who fear Him and those who do good, and that the best end is for those who fear Him; whatever befalls him is because of his sins, so he should be patient, for the promise of Allah is true; he should seek forgiveness for his sins and glorify and praise his Lord morning and evening.
End quote from Majmoo‘ al-Fataawa, 18/295
Secondly:
If the state of grief worsens and leads to some level of depression, then in addition to this spiritual remedy, showing patience, putting one’s trust in Allah and always remembering Him, medical attention from a knowledgeable and trustworthy specialist is also needed.
The symptoms of depression include the following:
· always feeling sad, anxious and in a bad mood
· loss of interest and lack of enjoyment in activities that people usually enjoy
· constant pessimism and feeling helpless in the face of life’s problems
· feelings of guilt, worthlessness and social alienation
· inability to show or express feelings towards others or to accept feelings from others
· trouble sleeping, such as insomnia, sleeping too long or waking up too early
· eating problems (overeating or loss of appetite)
· chronic physical pain from which no remedy brings relief
· weepiness
· getting tense quickly; hyperactivity and not being able to calm down and relax
· constant feelings of tiredness and inability to do any physical activity
· inability to concentrate, remember or take sound decisions
If four or more of the symptoms mentioned above are present, then you should consult a specialist in psychology, as mentioned above.
In addition to seeking medical treatment, you should try to keep yourself busy with useful activities, such as reading Quran and other books, and engaging in hobbies and so on. Do not forget some natural remedies that will re-energise you and help the brain to regain energy, such as honey and dried fruits.
One of the prescriptions that was often used in the past is talbeenah. According to an authentic report, the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said concerning it: “Talbeenah brings comfort to the sick person and it lessens grief.” Narrated by al-Bukhari, 5101; Muslim, 2216
Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allah have mercy on him) said in Zad al-Ma‘ad:
This broth clears that from the stomach and intestines, cleanses it, makes it flow, makes it more liquid, adjusts it, and restores balance. Thus it gives relief, especially for the one who usually eats barley bread, which was the custom of the people of Madinah at that time; it was their staple food, as wheat was very expensive for them. And Allah knows best.
Talbeenah is a broth made from barley flour with its bran, to which a cup of water is added, and it is heated on a low fire for five minutes, then a cup of milk and a spoonful of honey is added.
Please see also the answers to questions no. 158533 and 45847
And Allah knows best.
Whatever written of Truth and benefit is only due to Allah's Assistance and Guidance, and whatever of error is of me. Allah Alone Knows Best and He is the Only Source of Strength.
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Balfour Declaration Centenary and the Academic Radical-Left
Last week, on October 26, 2017 members of the Israeli Political Working Group (PWG) sent a petition to the UK Government titled "Britain’s Broken Promise: Time for a New Approach." They urged the British Government, upon marking the Balfour Declaration Centenary, to issue a statement expressing recognition of the State of Palestine which they believe should correct "historical wrong" and complement the original Declaration. The petitioners suggested that Britain should state that "both the Israeli and the Palestinian people have equal rights to self-determination in two states – Israel and Palestine — living side by side along the 1967 borders in peace, security, and prosperity."
The PWG group includes a number of academics such as Dr. Alon Liel, Prof. Amiram Goldblum, Prof. Dan Jacobson, Prof. Daniel Bar-Tal, Prof. Eli Barnavie, Prof. Galia Golan, Prof. Menachem Klein, Prof. Nura Resh, Prof. Itzhak Schnell, Dr. Dmitry Shumsky, among others.
Interestingly, PWG admits that "The year 2017 marks the 70th anniversary of United Nations Resolution 181 which terminated the mandatory powers of Great Britain in Palestine and paved the way for its partition into a Jewish and an Arab state." But as well known, Resolution 181, did admit that both the Jews and the Palestinians have a right to self determination and offered a bigger state to the Palestinians and a very small one to the Jews who accepted it. The Palestinians, on the advice of the Arab nations, rejected the proposal, started a war and suffered grave consequences after losing it.
Camp David II offered the Palestinians another chance of independence. After arduous negotiations mediated by President Bill Clinton, the Palestinian delegation headed by Yasser Arafat was offered to create a Palestinian state which with minor territorial adjustments would reflect the 1967 borders and a capital in the Arab neighborhoods of Jerusalem. The Old City and the Holy Sites were to be co-administered by the Palestinian and Israeli states. But Arafat rejected the proposal and, soon after, the Palestinians started the bloody Second Intifada. In their memoirs, the Americans present at Camp David - Clinton, his Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, and the CIA director George Tenet, expressed dismay at the erratic behavior of Arafat and lamented the missed opportunity. Ironically, Benny Morris, a leading New Historian and critic of Zionism, was profoundly shaken by these developments. In a series of searing articles in the New York Times and other premier media, Morris denounced the Palestinians as historical losers and questioned their fitness to run a state. He was joined by others who pointed out that the Palestinian Authority which the Oslo Agreement created in 1993 was a corrupt, lawless, and violent entity. If anything, the Gaza Strip, under Hamas management since 2006, has rejected anything the PA was offered. Hamas and the smaller Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a wholly owned subsidiary of Iran, have never been shy about their plans to make Israel disappear from the map.
The petition is a vacuous gesture of the radical-left, a symbol of its utter failure to admit that the Palestinians are to a large degree responsible for what had befallen them. But then again, what can be expected of a group who has stayed silent about the unparalleled evil which the Jihadists have inflicted on civil populations? These are the same type of academics who spent untold hours in conferences and seminars denouncing the ills of Israeli treatment of the inhabitants of the West Bank, but have failed to discuss the treatment of populations in territories occupied by ISIS, including murder, heinous torture, sexual enslavement of Yazidi and Christian women, among others.
By their obsessive concentration on Israel, this group and other radical-leftist academics have lost their intellectual and moral footing as purveyors of a balanced view of reality.
[Hebrew U, Classics] Amiel Vardi's petition in support of boycott calls and in opposition to the new law forbidding it עברית
Activists of Sheikh Jarah Solidarity movement, see with great concern the anti democratic law initiative which is being forwarded by the Israeli Knesset. We intend to fight against this law which harms the basic rights of freedom of expression, conscious and protest - as an example for the law which forbids Israeli citizen to call for financial sanctions against Israeli institutions in Israel and the occupied territories.
We insist on fighting against such fascist trends and therefore, as civil disobedience, we are calling for supporters and other citizens of Israel to join the following call
Signed by over 700 people including Israeli academics such as:
Dalit Baum, Amiel Vardi, Eyal Nir, Rachel Giora, Sarai Aharoni, Ran HaCohen, Efraim Davidi, Avner Cohen, Elad Orian, Amotz Agnon, Jerardo Liebner, Merav Amir, Ofer Kasif, Alla Shainskaya, Jacob Katriel, Ishai Menuhin, Ishai Rozen-Tsvi, Yehouda Shenhav, Anat Biletzki, Ronen Shamir, Eva Jablonka, Yossi Amitay, Haim Ganz, Dudi Tzfati, Moshe Zukermann, Iris Fry, Snait Gisis, Miri Eliav-Faldon, Yuval Yonay, Ben-Zion Munitz, Yossef Schwartz, Uri Ram, Dalia Sacks, Lev grinberg, Haggai Ram, Ron Kuzar, Micah Leshem, Ronit Lentin, Haim Bresheeth, Ephraim Nimni, Juli Neman-Arad, Idith Zertal, Ofra Goldstein-Givoni, Daniel Boyarin, Batya Roded, Tzvia Shapira, Jerry Haber, Daniel De-Malach, Yosefa Loshitzky, Moshe Machover, Joseph Zeira, Tzvi Mazeh, Calman Altman, Hanna Safran, Kobi Snitz, Betzalel Mankin,
Hannan Hever, Yeela Raanan, Eyal Nir and Hili Razinsky signed: Do Not Approve Israel's OECD Membership Until It Abides by International Law
As Israeli citizens, we wish to voice our strong support for the call issued to OECD countries by numerous Palestinian organizations, and numerous international organizations, including Palestinian solidarity campaigns around the world. Please note that the call also refers to the racist policies towards, and discrimination against, those Palestinians who are Israeli citizens.
Rewarding Israel for severe human rights violations will bring about neither peace nor justice !
Please Do Not Approve Israel's OECD Membership Until It Abides by International Law !
Israelis support UC Berkeley boycott: Prof. Rachel Giora, Prof. Lev Luis Grinberg, Dr. Anat Matar, Dr. Kobi Snitz
Two weeks ago news of the vote to divest UC Berkeley from companies that provide military support for the Israeli occupation has reached us here in Israel. Like many who have been working hard to liberate Palestine and restore justice to Palestinians, we were very happy to hear of your decision.
We witness the extent to which Israeli society becomes increasingly radicalized and indifferent to the systematic brutality it employs against Palestinians. As it does, the prospects for an internal change in Israeli society are almost nil. The efforts of friends like you stand the best chance to exert the necessary pressure to secure the full rights of Palestinians.
Open Letter to German Left Party: Israel doesn't deserve prizes for occupation, racist separation & war crimes
Gadi Algazi, Michal Givoni, Hanan Hever, Orly Lubin, Anat Matar, Yehuda Shenhav, Kobi Snitz, Roy Wagner, Moshe Zuckermann:
The ongoing occupation and dispossession are not an internal Israeli matter. The anti-democratic control of Israel over more than three million Palestinians, women and men, who lack the right to vote, and Israel’s war crimes committed in the occupied Palestinian territory are concerns of everyone for whom human rights are dear – and particularly for citizens of Europe, who bear special historical responsibility for the conflict in light of Europe’s colonial intervention in the Middle East. This intervention continues in the present, such that there is no foundation for the policy of non-intervention in the “internal affairs” of Israel. The economic and political support enjoyed by Israel from the European Union, and from Germany in particular, through the preferred trade agreements, for example, and through financial investments and arms trade not only do not encourage the peace process, but further entrench the military occupation and oppression and result in a deepening of militarism and education for racism and intolerance in our society.
Beyond this, the weakness of the Palestinians requires strong pressure from the international community. The strong side never relinquishes its position without substantial pressure and indeed, Israel has proven time and time again that it is not ready to act for peace and an end to the occupation without intensive pressure from civil society or various governments abroad.
Rachel Giora, Roni Hammermann, Iaroslav Youssim, Eyal Nir, Nurit Peled-Elhanan: Germany’s blanket support for Israel is 'harmful and immoral'
When President Shimon Peres lands in Berlin, an honest person should not lavish him with automatic praise, but ask, politely yet firmly, why he has been a member or a senior propagandist for Israeli governments which have used cluster munitions , flechette artillery shells and white phosphorus bombs in densely populated civilian areas in Gaza and Lebanon, have built more settlements in the OPT and have imposed separate legal systems for Israeli settlers in the OPT and their Palestinian neighbors. One can also ask him why he authorized the kidnapping and ill-treatment of an Israeli citizen in Rome (Mr. Mordechai Vanunu, September 1986), a clear violation of international law, and why it should be acceptable for one state in the Middle East to acquire nuclear weapons, a situation which necessarily brings about a dangerous arms race in this volatile region. One can ask him why he authorized, as Prime Minister in April 1996, the mass bombing of villages in Southern Lebanon, explicitly aimed at creating a wave of refugees flooding Beirut. We suspect that Mr. Peres has not learned that it is illegal to inflict lethal collective punishment on a civilian population.
"BOYCOTT! Supporting the Cairo Declaration" Israelis sign petition to Boycott, Divestment & Sanctions, to end Israeli crime of Apartheid & occupation
Tel Aviv University: Merav Amir, Dr. Anat Matar, Prof. Rachel Giora, Tirtza Tauber.
Marcelo Svirsky [Cardiff School of English, Communication, and Philosophy] , Dr. Dalit Baum [University of Haifa] , Prof. Uri Davis [Al Quds University]
As citizens and residents of Israel, we understand that acting from within Israel itself to end the criminal policy which is carried out in our name, is not enough. It is vital at this juncture that the international community and its civil society undertake the needed complementary actions of Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions against Israel. It is time to suspend ongoing international normalization with Israeli institutions until they end their complicity in the brutal military occupation of Palestine, in the crime of Apartheid and in daily violations of International Law and basic human rights.
In light of previous baseless attacks on supporters of BDS, it is important to stress that the Palestinian campaign, which we fully support, is neither anti-Semitic nor is it targeting individual Israelis. Rather, it calls on all of us to stop glossing over Israel's crimes, to cease lending a hand to normalization with those responsible, and instead to actively insist on the promotion of true democracy, equality and respect for human rights in this land, for the benefit of all.
Rachel Giora, Anat Matar, Kobi Snitz, Marcelo Svirsky, Uri Davis, and Aharon Shabtai stand with Dr. Neve Gordon for BDS and Against Oppression
BOYCOTT! would like to extend its support and appreciation to Dr. Neve Gordon of Ben-Gurion University in Beer-Sheva for publishing his position in support of Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions against Israel in an LA Times Op-Ed . In an overwhelming assault on freedom of speech, Gordon has met with immediate condemnation in the Israeli media, coming from the Minister of Education and several right wing political parties. Even though he was writing on a subject directly within the scope of his academic expertise, he was attacked by his own university, whose President, Prof. Rivka Carmi, went as far as to say that "the university may no longer be interested in his services". The attempt to silence Gordon as well as the threats leveled against him illustrate how resistant Israeli society and institutions are to bringing about change, thus confirming the need for external pressure in an attempt to force Israel to end its colonial and apartheid policies and bring about justice for Palestinians.
[TAU] Rachel Giora, Anat Matar and [Technion] Kobi Snitz advance the Palestinian Campaign for the Academic and Cultural Boycott against Israel
"By assisting Cohen in his ruse to bypass this boycott, Amnesty International is in fact taking a political stance, in violation of the premise of political neutrality with which it so regularly justifies its failure to side unambiguously with the oppressed. Amnesty is telling us: resistance is futile, the voice of the oppressed is irrelevant, international humanitarian law is a luxury."
Furthermore, the Israeli partners in the concert, the Peres Penter for Peace and Israel Discount Bank, actively hinder efforts to achieve a just peace. A columnist in Israel’s Ha’aretz Daily called the Peres Center for Peace patronizing and colonial organization that is in the business of training “the Palestinian population to accept its inferiority and prepare it to survive under the arbitrary constraints imposed by Israel.” According to research by Who Profits, a project of Israel’s Coalition of Women for Peace, Israel Discount Bank is deeply involved in supporting Israel’s settlement enterprise. Israeli settlements violate the very tenets of international law that Amnesty International works to uphold.
230 Israeli lecturers vow not to obey law banning Nakba commemoration
The current Knesset, to the chagrin of decent citizens everywhere, is considering the following three bills, all of them blatantly anti-democratic, all of them flagrant violations of the basic right to free expression, essential to democracy.
1) That citizens who do not sign an oath, pledging their loyalty to the State of Israel as a Jewish, Zionist and democratic state and declaring their willingness to do military or alternate national service, will be stripped of their citizenship.
2) That anyone publicly marking Israel's Independence Day as a day of mourning, i.e. as Nakba, will be punished by imprisonment for three years.
3) That anyone denying the identity of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state, if there is a reasonable possibility this will generate hatred, scorn or disloyalty to the state or any of its entities, will be punished by imprisonment for one year.
Because we understand the meaning of democracy and the nature and responsibilities of a truly democratic state, as many members of the current government clearly do not, we the undersigned. hereby declare our intention to publicly defy some or all of the above prohibitions if they are passed into law.
Israeli academics join Jewish "Peace Activists" in a call for boycotting Israel: "Such calls are in no way discriminatory", in: On Anti-Semitism, Boycotts, and the Case of Hermann Dierkes
We signatories have differing views on the wisdom and efficacy of calling for a boycott of Israeli goods. Some of us believe that such a boycott is an essential component of a campaign of boycott, divestment, and sanctions that can end the four-decade-long Israeli occupation; others think the better way to pressure the Israeli government is with a more selective boycott focused on institutions and corporations supporting the occupation. But all of us agree that it is essential to apply pressure against the Israeli government if peace and justice are to prevail in the Middle East and all of us agree that a call for a boycott of Israel has nothing in common with the Nazi policy of "Don't buy from Jews." It is no more anti-Semitic to boycott Israel to end the occupation than it was anti-white to boycott South Africa to end apartheid. Social justice movements have often called for boycotts or divestment, whether against the military regime in Burma or the government of Sudan. Wise or not, such calls are in no way discriminatory.
Violence in the Middle East has indeed led to some acts of anti-Semitism in Europe. There was a call to boycott Jewish-owned stores in Rome that was widely and appropriately condemned. We deplore such bigotry. Israel's crimes cannot be attributed to Jews as a whole. But, at the same time, a boycott of Israel cannot be equated with a boycott of Jews as a whole.
Emmanuel FARJOUN, Professor of Mathematics, Hebrew University. Alon FRIEDMAN, MD, Departments of Physiology and Neurosurgery, Ben-Gurion University. Rachel GIORA, Tel Aviv University. Roni HAMMERMANN, Hebrew University. Idan LANDAU, Department of Foreign Literatures & Linguistics, Ben Gurion University. Adi OPHIR, Professor of Philosophy, Tel Aviv University. Kobi SNITZ, Technion. Roy WAGNER, Tel Aviv University.
[Hebrew University, Math] Emmanuel Farjoun joins "The U.S. Campaign for Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel"
Responding to the call of Palestinian civil society to join the Boycott, Divestment and Sanction movement against Israel, we are a U.S. campaign focused specifically on a boycott of Israeli academic and cultural institutions, as delineated by PACBI (Palestinian Campaign for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel):
“In light of Israel’s persistent violations of international law, and Given that, since 1948, hundreds of UN resolutions have condemned Israel’s colonial and discriminatory policies as illegal and called for immediate, adequate and effective remedies, and Given that all forms of international intervention and peace-making have until now failed to convince or force Israel to comply with humanitarian law, to respect fundamental human rights and to end its occupation and oppression of the people of Palestine, and In view of the fact that people of conscience in the international community have historically shouldered the moral responsibility to fight injustice, as exemplified in the struggle to abolish apartheid in South Africa through diverse forms of boycott, divestment and sanctions
ISRAELI ACADEMICS WRITE IN SUPPORT OF MANCHESTER STUDENTS' BOYCOTT CALL AGAINST ISRAEL
We wish to express our support for students at Manchester University and elsewhere, who are drawing attention to the gross violations of academic and human rights in Gaza. We have seen their list of demands and feel that it is in the interest of an established and reputable university such as
Manchester to address their concerns productively and to demonstrate that it is committed to upholding human rights. We strongly believe that without some pressure from outside Israel and without concrete support for Palestinians nothing will change in our part of the world. For us, Manchester students and students across Britain and the US are providing an inspiring example of commitment and decent human compassion, which others
should emulate.
We urge you to express solidarity with our beleaguered Palestinian colleagues and to recognize the legitimacy of the students’ concerns in Manchester and elsewhere.
Matan Boord, M.A. student, Haifa University
Dr. Raya Cohen, Tel Aviv University
Adi Dagan, M.A., Historian
Prof. Rachel Giora, Tel-Aviv University
Prof. Eva Jablonka, Tel-Aviv University
Mor Kandlik Eltanani, M.A. student, Tel-Aviv University
Dr. Orly Lubin, Tel-Aviv University
Eilat Maoz, B.A., Tel Aviv University
Dr. Anat Matar, Tel-Aviv University
Dr. David Nir, Physicist
Prof. Adi Ophir, Tel-Aviv University
Dr. Kobi Snitz, Technion, Haifa
[Tel Aviv U] Rachel Giora, Anat Matar and [Technion] Kobi Snitz: "900 US, other Academians call for divestment and pressure against Israeli apartheid"
An impressive, unprecedented list of hundreds of academians, mostly US based, calling for the South Africa treatment to deal with what they identify as Israel's racism, colonialism and apartheid.
The following is the letter addressed to US President-elect Barack Obama calling for the United States to change its policies vis-a-vis the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, especially in light of Israel's current onslaught against the Gaza Strip
Israeli academics sign a petition against upgrading Israeli-EU agreement
Press Release - NO TO EU-ISRAEL UPGRADE
called for:
1. The UK Government to revoke its support for any new agreements with Israel and for this to be communicated forthwith to the Czech presidency of the EU and others.
2. The European Parliament to refuse to endorse any extension of existing agreements and prevent any upgrades of EU benefits to Israel until it abides by its international legal and humanitarian obligations.
Dr Deulle Luski Aim, Tel Aviv U
Dr Uri Davis, Durham U, U.K
Dr Rachel Giora, Tel Aviv U
Anat Matar, Tel-Aviv U
Nurit Peled-Elhanan, Sakharov Prize 2001, Hebrew U
Dr David Wesley, Tel Aviv U
Academic call of betrayal: "Israeli citizens calling upon international community to stop Israel"
Please find enclosed a petition signed by about 500 Israeli citizens, calling for urgent international intervention in order to stop Israel from continuing the war it has waged against the Palestinian people in Gaza.
It is the signatories' belief that Israel's atrocities will not cease without a massive intervention by the international community. In particular, they ask world leaders to implement the call by Palestinian human rights organizations
Professor Rachel Giora, Tel Aviv University,
rachel.giora@gmail.com, +972 3 6418369
Dr. Kobi Snitz, Haifa
ksnitz@gmail.com, +972 54 2191547
Dr. Anat Matar, Tel Aviv University,
anatmatar@gmail.com, +972 72 2511135
Israeli academics sign a petition to EU and UN: In support of the Palestinian human rights community call for international action
260. Ronit Lentin [Department of Sociology, Trinity College, University of Dublin]
233. Hilla Dayan [ISHSS, The Netherlands]
232. Tal SHUVAL [Department of Middle East Studies, Ben-Gurion University]
223. Nura Resh [School of Education at Hebrew University]
212. Prof. Ben Tzion Munitz [FACULTY OF THE ARTS Tel Aviv University]
175. Judd Ne'eman [Department of Film and Television at Tel-Aviv University]
121. Dorit Naaman [Queen's University in Kingston, Canada]
119. Prof Uri Davis [University of Durham's Institute for Middle Eastern and Islamic Studies]
114. Professor Ghazi-Walid Falah [A Bedouin Israeli-Canadian geographer, a professor at the University of Akron, Ohio, USA]
95. Haim Bresheeth [Department of Cultural Studies, University of East London]
79. Tikva Honig-Parnass
12. adi ophir [Cohn Institute, Tel Aviv University]
9. Anat Matar [Tel-Aviv University, Philosophy Department]
5. Aim Deuelle Luski [Philosophy Department, Tel Aviv University]
2. Professor Rachel Giora [Department of Linguistics. Tel Aviv University]
1. Kobi Snitz [Mathematics Department Bar-Ilan University]
To: EU and UN
In support of the Palestinian human rights community call for international action
As if the occupation was not enough, the brutal ongoing repression of the Palestinian population, the construction of settlements and the siege of Gaza- now comes the bombardment of the civilian population: men, women, old folks and children. Hundreds of dead, hundreds of injured, overwhelmed hospitals, and the central medicine depot of Gaza bombed. The ship Dignity of the Free Gaza movement which brought emergency medical supplies and a number of physicians was also attacked. Israel has returned to openly committing war crimes, worse than what we have seen in a long time.
Israeli media do not expose their viewers to the horrors and to the voices of severe criticism of these crimes. The story told is uniform. Israeli dissidents are denounced as traitors. Public opinion including that of the Zionist left supports the Israeli policy uncritically and without reservation.
Israel's destructive criminal policy will not cease without a massive intervention by the international community. However, except for some rather weak official condemnation, the international community is reluctant to intervene,. The United States openly supports the Israeli violence and Europe, although voicing some condemnation, is unwilling to seriously consider withdrawing the “gift” it handed Israel by upgrading its relations with the European Union.
In the past the world knew how to fight criminal policies. The boycott on South Africa was effective, but Israel is handled with kid gloves: its trade relations are flourishing, academic and cultural cooperation continue and intensify with diplomatic support.
This international backing must stop. That is the only way to stop the insatiable Israeli violence.
We are calling on the world to stop Israeli violence and not allow the continuation of the brutal occupation. We call on the world to Condemn and not become an accomplice in Israel's crimes.
Professors from Tel Aviv University are Signatories in a Statement of Determination to Boycott Israel: Rachel Giora, Anat Matar, Ruchama Marton
The Israeli government is sending waves of F16 fighter jets to bomb the Palestinian population of Gaza, many of whom are already weak and sick from two years of siege and encirclement by Israel. Children, says an Israeli spokeswoman, are legitimate targets because if they inhabit a house allegedly being used to manufacture home-made rockets to fire into Israel, they are 'terrorists' themselves. On Saturday December 27, Israel says it dropped 100 tonnes of bombs on Gaza.
We say enough is enough. As long as the state of Israel continues to defy humanity and international law, we, the citizens of the world, commit ourselves to boycotting Israel.
When Nazi planes firebombed the Basque town of Guernica in 1937, to advance General Franco's revolt against the democratically elected Republican government, Britain, France and other European powers continued to refuse military and political support to the Republic, and Franco and his Nazi allies prevailed.
Since our governments decline to take action against Israel, we, as citizens, must act.
We declare that, in solidarity with the bombed, maimed, tortured and ethnically cleansed people of Palestine,
Irresponsible Israeli academics ignore security needs and blame Israel, not Palestine, for deterioration in the PT
The academic community of the State of Israel, which rightly demands academic freedom for its members both inside Israel and within the international academic community, has generally disregarded the demand for a similar freedom for Palestinian academics in the Occupied Territories for which the State of Israel is responsible. Because of this, and in view of the rapidly deteriorating situation in the Territories during the last couple of years, we approached all the senior faculty members in the major higher education and scientific research institutions in Israel: Bar Ilan University, Ben Gurion University, Haifa University, The Hebrew University, The Open University, the Technion (Israel Institute of Technology), Tel Aviv University, and the Weizmann Institute for Science.
Righteous Jews: To Commemorate Palestinians who have been depopulated, dispossessed, humiliated, tortured, and murdered by the Zionists
RighteousJews.org was begun in 2003 as a way to commemorate the memory of those Palestinians who have been, and continue to be depopulated, dispossessed, humiliated, tortured, and murdered in the name of political Zionism and its quest to create a Jewish state in the lands between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River. From its founding in 1897 the Zionist endeavors to "pump in" Jews and "pump out" Palestinians from this land have been the root cause of bloodshed and conflict. These racist endeavors have also been deeply problematic for those who believe in the basic tenets of Judaism of the prophets, namely justice and a duty to heal the world. RighteousJews.org was created to honor those who consider themselves to be Jewish and who have worked for the human rights of non-Jewish Palestinians.
Pro-Palestinian academics want to take archaeology in the City of David out of the hands of Jews
For nearly a decade, all archaeological work in the Wadi Hilwe area of Silwan in East Jerusalem—that is, the City of David, the core of ancient Jerusalem and one of the most sensitive archaeological sites in Israel—has been controlled by Elad, an organization of right-wing Israeli settlers. More precisely, the Israel Nature and National Parks Protection Authority (INPA), which has legal responsibility for this area, has appointed Elad as its sub-contractor in Silwan; Elad, in turn, has commissioned the Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) to carry out excavations in this neighborhood. What is more, permission to dig in Silwan has been granted by an internal process within the IAA, distinct from the usual norms for large-scale excavation applied to other sites in Israel. What this means is that Elad decides everything of consequence relating to the Wadi Hilwe sites—including the decision to expand and extend the digging as it sees fit, without reference to the needs and rights of Silwan's Palestinian residents. There is no precedent in Israel for handing over responsibility for serious archaeological work to a militant political organization with its own clear (extremist) agenda.
Elad also runs a visitor's center which offers a highly one-sided, nationalist version of the history of this neighborhood. Visitors to the site receive, along with the entry ticket they purchase, a propaganda pamphlet embodying this distorted historical narrative. Lavishly funded by foreign donors, Elad is engaged in a relentless process of turning Silwan into an area of Jewish settlement, at the same time dispossessing many of the Palestinian residents.
Professor Yaron Ezrahi, Hebrew University
Professor Idan Segev, Hebrew University
Professor David Shulman, Hebrew University
Israeli academics endorse Palestinian call for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions against Israel
Palestinian Civil Society
Calls for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions against Israel
Until it Complies with International Law and Universal Principles of Human Rights
One year after the historic Advisory Opinion of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) which found Israel's Wall built on occupied Palestinian territory to be illegal, Israel continues its construction of the colonial Wall with total disregard to the Court's decision. Thirty eight years into Israel's occupation of the Palestinian West Bank (including East Jerusalem), Gaza Strip and the Syrian Golan Heights, Israel continues to expand Jewish colonies. It has unilaterally annexed occupied East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights
Tikva Honig-Parnass, Dalit Baum, Kobi Snitz, Moshe Machover, Haim Bresheeth, Hagit Borer, Dror Warschawski, Dorothy Naor
Israeli academics signs a petition encouraging the United Methodist Church to divest from "companies that enable the occupation to continue"
we the undersigned shall applaud your courageous initiative, and fervently hope that it will set an example for many others to follow...":
Ofer Neiman, Dalit Baum, Roman Vater, kobi snitz, Anat Matar, Yael Korin, Udi Adiv, Prof. Kobi Peterzil, Hannah Safran, Haim Bresheeth, Ur Shlonsky, Moshe Machover, Dana Ron, Yael Ronen and others.
Israeli Committee for Right of Residency demands that Israel stop Checking Palestinian Visas
Having addressed leading Israeli politicians (who ignored our repeated appeals), as well as leaders of Israeli academia (to whose response we are still waiting) and diplomatic missions in Israel, we are now appealing to you, women and men of good will in the international academic and civil community, to express your concern to the government of Israel. The issue we address is at the heart of any future hope for a peaceful solution of the Middle East crisis. Its adequate resolution will not require Israel to sacrifice any legitimate security interests, but would put an end to the ongoing policy of destroying Palestinian aspirations to a better future in their land.
Prof. Aharon Eviatar
Prof. Rachel Giora
Prof. Emeritus Jacob Katriel
Prof. Yehuda Kupferman
Dr. Ruchama Marton
Dorothy Naor
Israel Naor
Dr. Hannah Safran
Dr. Anne J. Sartiel
Noisy Petition demands: Help undermine 'Israeli silent transfer'
We, members of the Israel Committee for the Right of Residency (ICRR), have been calling upon the Israeli public to join us in demanding that our government desist from denying residency rights in the occupied Palestinian territory to Palestinians or persons of Palestinian descent with foreign passports as well as to foreign professionals contributing to the welfare of the Palestinian population. We have been meeting with staffs of foreign embassies in Israel and have called upon them to use their good offices to intercede with the Israeli authorities to change the imposed restrictions.
However, embassies do not make policy. They carry out the policies of their governments
Prof. Daniel Amit, The Hebrew University
Prof. Rachel Giora, Tel Aviv University
Dr. Snait Gissis, Tel Aviv University
Prof. Emeritus Aharon Eviatar, Tel Aviv University
Prof. Sidra DeKoven Ezrahi, The Hebrew University
Dr. Anat Matar, Tel Aviv University
ICRR
4GAZA Petition - Solidarity with the Hamas?
We know: War Crimes are perpetrated at this moment in the Gaza Strip
Israeli academics call upon their students to break the law, to refuse serving at the Palesinian's Territories during army service
We, faculty members from a number of Israeli universities, wish to express our appreciation and support for those of our students and lecturers who refuse to serve as soldiers in the occupied territories. Such service too often involves carrying out orders that have no place in a democratic society founded on the sanctity of human life.
For thirty five years an entire people, some three and a half million in number, have been held without basic human rights. The occupation and oppression of another people have brought the State of Israel to where it is today.
Without an Israeli declaration of an end to the occupation, accompanied by appropriate action--unilateral, if necessary--the present war is not being fought for our home but for the settlements beyond the green line and for the continued oppression of another people.
We hereby express our readiness to do our best to help students who encounter academic, administrative or economic difficulties as a result of their refusal to serve in the territories. We call on the University community at large to support them.
Faculty members who wish to join are welcome to contact Anat Biletzki (anatbi@post.tau.ac.il).
This letter is being updated. So far, 358 faculty members have signed it.
IWC CALL FOR STOPPING ISRAELI BRUTALITY AND OPPRESSION, signed by Israeli Academics
WE CALL on the government of Israel to immediately cease its war on the civilian population of Gaza and withdraw its armed forces. We demand the cessation of the irresponsible and totally unacceptable policy of deprivation and collective punishment. The destruction of power stations and infrastructure has denied access to water and electricity to over two-thirds of the population, which has aggravated an already deteriorating situation due to the long-standing siege imposed. Today the humanitarian crisis is reaching unprecedented proportions.
WE CALL on the international community to exercise its responsibility for the protection of human security, human rights, and the fundamental rights of all to live in an environment of peace and security, free from occupation, oppression and the arbitrary use of force as stipulated in international law and human rights conventions.
Galia Golan, Professor of Government, Hebrew University
Naava Eisin, Director, the Archives of Jewish Education, Tel-Aviv University
Naomi Chazan, Professor of Political Science, Hebrew University (emerita)
Sarai Aharoni, PhD Candidate, Bar-Ilan University
Anat Saragusti, Editor Channel 2 News and Humphrey Fellow, University of Maryland,
Statement in Solidarity with the Peoples of Lebanon and Palestine signed by Israeli Academics (not a word about their terrorism and anti-Israel aggression)
The US-backed Israeli assault on Lebanon has left the country numb, smoldering and angry. The massacre in Qana and the loss of life is not simply “disproportionate.” It is, according to existing international laws, a war crime.
The deliberate and systematic destruction of Lebanon's social infrastructure by the Israeli air force was also a war crime, designed to reduce that country to the status of an Israeli-US protectorate.
The attempt has backfired, as people all over the world watch aghast. In Lebanon itself, 87 percent of the population now support Hezbollah's resistance, including 80 percent of Christian and Druze and 89 percent of Sunni Muslims, while 8 percent believe the US supports Lebanon.
But these actions will not be tried by any court set up by the “international community” since the United States and its allies that commit or are complicit in these appalling crimes will not permit it.
It has now become clear that the assault on Lebanon to wipe out Hezbollah had been prepared long before. Israel's crimes had been given a green light by the United States and its ever-loyal British ally, despite the overwhelming opposition to Blair in his own country.
Gadi Algazi (Tel Aviv) - Rachel Giora (Tel Aviv) - Yitzhak Laor (Tel Aviv) - Orly Lubin (Tel Aviv) - Moshe Machover - Anat Matar (Tel Aviv) - Ilan Pappe (Haifa) - Tanya Reinhart (Tel Aviv) - Dalia Sachs (Haifa) - Hannah Safran (Haifa) - Ronen Shamir (Tel Aviv) - Eyal Sivan -
31.July. 2004 - Israeli anti-Israel Academics Recognize "Palestinian Right of Return"
"...For Truth and Reconciliation, For Equality and Partnership
The State of Israel was supposed to provide security for Jews -- It created a death-trap in which residents live in a constant danger unknown to any other Jewish community;..."
Israeli Extremist Academics rally to support imprisoned Terrorist Accomplice Tali Fahima
Assisting an enemy in wartime; passing information to the enemy and for the latters benefit, contact with a foreign agent, illegal handling of a weapon, supporting a terrorist organization, and violating a legal order.
A Statement in Support of Open and Free Discussion about U.S. and Israeli Foreign Policy and Against Suppression of Speech
The following names are of Israeli academics participating in a petition calling for the freedom to bash Israel. Dr. Neve Gordon, Department of Politics and Government, Ben-Gurion University
Prof. Rachel Giora, Tel Aviv
Dorothy Naor PhD, Herzliah, Israel
Daniel Boyarin, Taubman Professor of Talmudic Culture, University of California, Berkeley
Rutie Adler, Coordinator Hebrew Language Program, Near Eastern Studies Department, University of California, Berkeley
Online Petition to the Irish Government demanding it Boycott Israel, signed by Israeli Academics
Text of petition
We the undersigned call upon the Irish Government to declare its strong and unequivocal opposition to the Israeli 'Separation Wall' currently under construction and to use its term of office as President of the European Union to encourage such opposition among the member states. We also call on the Irish Government to support the Campaign to end the special trade agreements which exist between the EU and Israel until such time as the State of Israel complies with the Geneva Convention and the many United Nations' Resolutions regarding the Palestinian people.
List of signatories
Name Email Street Address City Country Organization
Dorothy 15 Hapoel St. Nof Yam, Herzliah Nof Yam, Herzliah Israel Mas'ha Camp, New Profile, etc.
Dr. Alla Shainskaya alla.shainskaya@weizmann.ac.il Rehovot Israel
kobi tel aviv israel anarchists against the wall
Dan Goldenblatt Tel Aviv Israel
Patricia M. Carmeli Ha'Gefen 7 Caesarea Israel Women in Black
Elana Wesley Tel Aviv Israel
David Wesley Tel Aviv Israel
Avi Raz avi.raz@st-antonys.oxford.ac.uk 62 Woodstock Road Oxford United Kingdom University of Oxford
Teddy Katz te_katz@magal.org.il Magal, d.n. Heffer, 38845. Israel Gush Shalom
daphne Banai ybanai@netvision.net.il 5 Brazil st. Tel Aviv Israel
Anat Matar Ramat Hasharon Israel
Dr. Tikva Honig-Parnass tikva20@zahav.net.il 42 harlap Jerusalem Israe
Zeev Gorin gorin@bradley.edu Peoria U.S.A
Dr Uri Davis uridavis@actcom.co.il ? Sakhnin Israel AL-BEIT: Association for the Defence of Human Rights in Israel
David Nir d-nir@zahav.net.il Tel Aviv Israel Taayush
Baruch Mizrahi brokennn_hearttt@yahoo.com Jerusalem Israel
Danit Kulat Ramat-Gan Israel Tel-Aviv University
Ruth El-Raz root_ee@012.net.il Jerusalem Israel Bat Shalom
Angela Godfrey-Goldstein Jerusalem Israel
Racheli bar-or TEL-AVIV ISRAEL
Dorit Eliyahu Raleigh, NC USA
Dorothy Naor, PhD 15 Hapoel St. Nof Yam, Herzliah Israel Mas'ha Camp, New Profile, etc.
Rachel n. Beer Sheva Israel Machsomwatch
Abed Kanaaneh Gallile Israel The Communist Party
Tamar Almog Tel-Aviv Israel
Dani Grimblat da-gri@barak-online.net P.O.Box 5542 Haifa Israel Itamar Shachar ita_s@walla.co.il Haifa Israel
Keren Israeli Rishon le Zion Israel
Michael May Dallas USA
Kerstin Sodergren Givat Olga Hadera Israel
Rev. Professor Michael Prior, C.M. London England
Nomi Shir Beer Sheva Israel
Yigal Bronner Jerusalem Israel
Adi Dagan Tel Aviv Israel
noa hadar omer israel
livnat moran Herzelia israel
josef mekyton izaak sadeh 67 tel aviv israel www.animal.org.il
Tali Almi Tel Aviv Israel
Jonathan Sivan jsivan@netvision.net.il Haifa Israel
yishay yishayba@hotmail.com yiron yiron israel anarchists against fences
Haggai Katriel Haifa Israel
Victoria Buch Jerusalem Israel
Dina Goor Gan Haim Israel
Hulda Goor Jerusaelm Israel
Shai Carmeli Pollak Tel Aviv Israel
Ilan Gull Tel aviv Israel
Aviv Sela avivsela3@hotmail.com Ramat-Gan Israel
Protests in and out: Jewish voices in Israel and abroad are calling for an immediate halt to Israel's "crimes of war. "
A few Israeli writers have also begun to express their rejection of these policies against the Palestinian people, calling for action from peace-loving forces in Israel, particularly the left. But they have been shocked by the tepid response from Israeli society. They have thus concluded that the problem lies in the society which has moved further to the right and supports government operations against the Palestinians.
Following last month's Israeli murder of Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, Lev Greenberg of Ben-Gurion University published an article in La Libre Belgique accusing the Israeli government of committing genocide against the Palestinians. A member of the university's Political Sociology Department, Greenberg is a former spokesman for Yesh Gvul. In 1987 he went to prison for refusing to serve in the occupied territories. Today, Greenberg is an active supporter of the refuseniks...
Israeli professors who have signed the petition include Dan Rabinowitz, Dept of Sociology and Anthropology, Tel Aviv University; Prof Elana Wesley, Tel Aviv University; Prof Tanya Reinhart, Tel Aviv University; Rachel Giora, linguistics professor, Tel Aviv University; Anat Even, filmmaker and film lecturer, Camera Obscure; Prof Raad Basem, English Dept, Al-Quds University in Jerusalem; Emmanuel Farjoun, mathematics professor, Hebrew University; Diana Dolev, Wizo College, Haifa; Prof Ilan Pappe, Haifa University; Vered Kraus, professor of sociology, Haifa University; Riva Bachrach, clinical psychologist, Beit Berl College of Education.
Israeli Faculty Members endorse Lawbreaking and Refusal to Serve in the Military
We, faculty members from a number of Israeli universities, wish to express our appreciation and support for those of our students and lecturers who refuse to serve as soldiers in the occupied territories. Such service too often involves carrying out orders that have no place in a democratic society founded on the sanctity of human life. For thirty five years an entire people, some three and a half million in number, have been held without basic human rights. The occupation and oppression of another people have brought the State of Israel to where it is today.
Without an Israeli declaration of an end to the occupation, accompanied by appropriate action--unilateral, if necessary--the present war is not being fought for our home but for the settlements beyond the green line and for the continued oppression of another people. We hereby express our readiness to do our best to help students who encounter academic, administrative or economic difficulties as a result of their refusal to serve in the territories. We call on the University community at large to support them.
Faculty members who wish to join are welcome to contact Anat Biletzki.
Israeli academics signs a petition blaming Israel
We condemn the brutal policy of the Israeli government aimed at destroying the Palestinian society, the Palestinian economy and the elected Palestinian leadership Headed By President Yasser Arafat. The erection of the ‘apartheid wall’ is a further device to help the ethnic cleansing against the Palestinian people.
Statement Condemning Israel for its brutal "War Crimes and Aggresison, signed by Israeli Academics
Israeli Writers and Academics Denounce Israel for "Human Rights Abuses" - Could the invasion of Iraq be exploited by Israeli Leftists for Treason?
We, members of Israeli academe, are horrified by US buildup of aggression towards Iraq and by the Israeli political leadership's enthusiastic support for it.
We are deeply worried by indications that the "fog of war" could be exploited by the Israeli government to commit further crimes against the Palestinian people, up to full-fledged ethnic cleansing.
Israeli Academics call for international armed intervention to block the Israeli military
We the undersigned, Palestinian and Israeli intellectuals and activists, view with grave concern the unbearable and inhuman situation imposed on the Palestinian people in the West Bank and Gaza.
Such a situation has been brought about by the repression, blockades, and daily humiliation exercised by the military occupation and by the daily harassment that Jewish settlers inflict on the Palestinian Population. We cannot remain unmoved while the suffering of Palestinians and the violation of their human and political rights continues undeterred. The recent seizure of Palestinian institutions (including Orient House) in Jerusalem and environs can only exacerbate the situation and lead to more bloodshed and suffering of innocent people. We feel it is our duty to support the call for the immediate provision of an international force to protect the Palestinian people in its struggle for the exercise of its right to self-determination and freedom, and to put an end to the military occupation of its land.
Israeli Academics Applaud and Endorse the anti-Israel Resolutions and Declarations of the Durban Conference
We, citizens of Israel, applaud the various declarations coming out of Durban that Israel is an apartheid state. After 53 years of racism and discrimination, it is time for the world community to organize and publicly challenge Israeli policies against the Palestinian people. Even as we write, Israeli politicians unabashedly declare their support for Jewish supremacy and Judaization of the land, in an attempt to sustain Jewish control over 7 million Palestinians through military occupation, as second-class citizens or denial of return to their homeland.
Especially because we are citizens of this state, we see our struggle as no less than ending such apartheid and discrimination and attaining, simultaneously, political, social and economic equality for all. Your support from Durban is consistent with our view that the struggle to liberate Palestine from this regime and to return the Palestinian refugees to their homeland, is part of the global struggle to end racism, political and economic oppression and terminate the colonialist project in the Middle East. We call on you to continue your loyal solidarity with us, as we strive for freedom and dignity for every person in Palestine.
Academics and Others Issue Appeal to Stop Israeli "Brutality" and Crimes
The authors of this appeal are Israeli citizens and Jews of other nationalities whose families have been victims of racism and genocide in past generations, and who feel they cannot remain silent.
After six months of relentless military oppression of Palestinians in the Israeli-occupied territories, the government of Israel has made daily life even more intolerable for the Palestinians by imposing a physical siege on their villages and towns. This siege has brought upon the Palestinians a complete cessation of "normal" life. For the majority of them there is no going to work, no shopping for food and other necessities, no medical services, and in many cases no water or electricity.
ISRAEL: Appeal for an international Protection force
We urge all those concerned, everywhere, to join us in voicing their strong opposition to the continued occupation of the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip, and to support our call for the provision of effective international protection for Palestinians from the aggression and repression of the Israeli occupation. Such an international force, we believe, would greatly facilitate the resumption of serious and meaningful negotiations between Palestinian and Israeli leaders and the settlement of the conflict on the basis of relevant United Nations resolutions and a two states solution.
Appeal for International Intervention in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
Israeli Anti-Zionists in the UK deplore "outrages" perpetrated by Israel , safe themselves from being trageted by Palestinian Terrorists
We, Israeli Jews resident in the UK, deplore the outrages perpetrated on the Palestinian population by the Israeli government. What we are witnessing is the true face of the 'Peace process': Israel, the occupying power, dictates and the Palestinians are left with the option: put up or shut up!
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Say Anything, Cain Version
I debated Herman Cain’s economic advisor, Rich Lowrie, last night on the Larry Kudlow Show. A key point here is that the plan, which Bruce Barlett calls a “distributional nightmare,” radically shifts the tax burden from high-income households to everyone else. I focused on the median household, and Lowrie either doesn’t understand the implications of the plan or he’s deliberately misrepresenting it.
For a $50K household, married couple, two kids, all income from earnings and standard deductions, the current tax burden is $8.3K. Under 9-9-9, that would grow to $13.5K, an increase of over $5,000 (hat tip: CCH, BS). The WaPo fact checker came to a similar conclusion. E Klein too.
(I expect that any minute now the Tax Policy Center will release a slew of data supporting these points with their much more detailed tax model.)
But Lowrie wouldn’t accept that conclusion. In fact, he asserted that their federal tax would be lower because they’d move from a 15% payroll tax to a 9% income tax. This, as I said on air, is “patently wrong.”
First of all, assuming they plan to exist, they’ll need to consume stuff, and thus they’ll also face the 9% sales tax. That already makes their tax rate 18%, higher than the 15%.
But as Michael Linden points out, and this is widely agreed upon by tax economists, the incidence of the 9% tax on business income (which denies businesses a deduction for wages paid) also hits them, which is why former Joint Tax Committee chief of staff Ed Kleinbard described the tax as a 27% payroll tax for families whose incomes derive from earnings (note that Lowrie is perfectly comfortable with the standard assumption assigning the incidence of the employers side of the payroll tax to the family—this one re the business tax is equally standard).
For a family with $500K, same assumptions as above, their tax bill would fall by $44K.
But where this plan really gets regressive is when you get up into the families who derive their income from non-labor sources. While the details of the plan are fuzzy when it comes to capital gains and dividends, it seems clear that those earning thousands or even millions of dollars in these types of non-labor income would enjoy a massive tax cut. And that would further widen the disparity between the highly preferential treatment of capital gains and dividends on the one hand, and the taxation of “ordinary” wage and salary income on the other.
We’ve got enough income and wealth inequality coming from the pretax distribution—we don’t need to exacerbate it through the tax code.
Middle class families that depend on earnings will pay more taxes under the Cain tax plan. High income families will pay a lot less. His advisors who say otherwise are misleading the electorate and that must not stand.
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What a great tax plan! The rich will be even richer and the poor… Who cares? It reminds me of third world countries.
D. C. Sessions says:
And all that’s assuming that people don’t make any kind of tax-avoidance arrangements, such as incorporating and taking their pay as dividends (which are untaxed, as I read it.) That’s a double avoidance, because payments to other corporations also are excluded from the business tax, unlike labor. Instant 18% improvement for those who can become “consultants.”
Of course, in many ways the biggest difference is that it hikes the cost of US labor relative to other countries. All of that extra taxation on the lower half of the population is hitting people who are already close to subsistence, so they’re not in a position to take pay cuts to stay in the game. That means that the tax is effectively a surcharge on payroll to their employers, who will thus have an increased incentive to farm out the labor to offshore subcontractors.
http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000051142
The longer and stronger you maintain your insistence on shifting the tax burden from the top to the bottom, the greater the odds that you’ll occasionally succeed and the smaller the odds that a shift in the opposite direction will occur. The GOP has been playing this game for years. The Dems just get perplexed.
Enjoyed the show Jared and thanks Joe for the link provided above. I have an idea that may exist somewhere on the net but if not then it needs to! Someone could write a web page using Javascript that would calculate a person’s Federal income tax (using simplifying assumptions such as family of four, standard deductions, all or most income from wages etc.) and then actually calculate income tax under both the current tax laws and 9-9-9 plan (or any other proposed plan). Of course, the 9-9-9 plan would have to have an additional entry for consumption (at a certain percentage of net income) to reflect the 9% sales tax. The current tax calculation would reflect payroll taxes also. Both could add in taxes that do not change such as state income tax, state or local sales tax, and other taxes.
It would seem to be very enlightening for the average American to be able to enter and compare the numbers. An of course the user would be free to enter higher income levels to compare how wealthier people fare under both plans. Any thoughts on this Jared?
IANAE (I am not an economist!).
He Loved Big Brother says:
At some point let’s call a spade a spade! Mr. Lowrie, though he may be many other things, is probably capable of simple arithmatic. He knows full well the truth of your assertions regarding the tax impact on low/middle/high income americans. Let’s not call his responses misleading. Let’s call them what they are – outright lies. We are being subject to an endless ocan of dishonesty across the board, and to characterise this as “misleading” is weak and insubstantial. This dishonesty and its purveyors should be called out, and people such as yourself who have the opportunity, the credibility and the platform must do this. We must stoke some outrage at the utter distortion of the national debate being perpetrated on american society!!
Rick P
Moopheus says:
“Lowrie either doesn’t understand the implications of the plan or he’s deliberately misrepresenting it.”
I guess you couldn’t outright call the guy a liar to his face, but one has to assume it’s more likely the latter than the former. One of the key republican catch phrases of the season seems to be “broaden the base,” i.e., make the poor pay. Regressive taxation–push the tax burden of the corporations and investors further downstream onto people who actually have to work for a living–is clearly the goal, but they can’t come out and say it. Cain has taken the somewhat unusual step of outlining an actual plan to do it. Will people figure this out before voting time? Cain may be counting on most people not being very good at math; after all, the whole housing bubble demonstrated that a lot of people were not very good at math.
Bernd says:
Could someone comment on the effect this tax plan would have on imports versus domestic production. My reading here would be, that a shifting taxation from income/payroll tax to a sales tax would actually level the playing field for domestic production vs. imports and especially for domestic employment. Am I wrong about this? If not how large would you expect the benefits of this to be?
It’s becoming increasingly clear to me that we need to tax income from capital at the same rate as income from labor. It will be a very small step in leveling the playing field between the very wealthy and the middle class, but it will eliminate the abomination of “carried interest” where Hedgies are taxed (at least partially) at 15% and working folks are taxed at marginal rates of 25% and higher.
Apinak says:
Can you explain how this plan would affect Social Security and Medicare? How will those be funded without payroll taxes?
Chris D says:
I agree in general, but…the 9% sales tax isn’t on their income, it’s on their expenditures. So assuming they don’t spend their entire income on sales-taxable things, the 9% sales tax contributes less than 9% to their overall tax rate, no?
Richard Allen says:
Jared:
One question nobody wants to touch with that 10 foot pole:
Mr. Cain can you explain why you believe the doctor/patient relationship only applies to certain people?
It applies to seniors, and everyone else except those people who are pregnant and wish to have an abortion.
I deeply resent your association of “Say Anything” with this tax plan. Shame on you.
billyblog says:
When we — that would be you, Jared, rightly standing in for all of us because of your greater expertise — come up against someone like Rich Lowrie, or any garden variety Republican hack, we have to make a decision as to whether they are acting as fools or knaves when they “patently” misrepresent facts, including the demonstrable consequences of their own proposed regressive policies, whether on taxes, entitlements, the environment, you name it, they are consistently regressive in that they favor and/or shelter the rich(er) and stick it to the poor(er).
But rather of using the binary logic of fool or knave — and thus diluting to some extent the critique: “He can’t really be THAT foolish or THAT knavish, can he?” — let me propose the hybrid category of “knoolish.”
Thus, someone like Rich Lowrie, or his patron, Herman Cain, really do seem to reason as follows, though the reasoning is hardly ever explicit:
“If what you said about what I have proposed is true, then I really would be a monumental fool or knave. But clearly I am neither of those things.
Well, I wouldn’t have gotten this far in life — e.g., I can get on Fox News any time I want — if I were so stupid. So there is overwhelming circumstantial evidence to support the claim that I can’t possibly be the fool you say I have to be to advocate what I am advocating.
“And if I were as knavish as would be necessary if I were knowingly promoting such dysfunctional policies as you describe, then almost certainly my knavishness would not be confined to just my public policy choices. Knavishness is a moral condition, and morality, though it isn’t necessarily knit together as tightly as Hamlet’s raveled sleeve of care, does tend to be of a piece. So by saying I am a knave as far as my public policy proposals are concerned — and you are saying that, because we have already demonstrated that I could not possibly be the fool you say I am — you are to some degree implying that I am deficient as a matter of morals, you know, as most objective observers regard Mitch McConnell as being. But clearly I am not as knavish as that. How do I know? Well, ask my wife, ask my former employees at Godfather’s Pizza, ask all those institutions which have given me humanitarian awards of one sort or another. They would not have pal-ed around with someone as knavish as that, someone whose a God-fearing church-goer in fact.
“So, your argument that I am a fool or a knave collapses under the weight of any probabilistic analysis.
“So, let’s get back to discussing my real 9-9-9 plan rather than the obvious caricature you have — foolishly or knavishly — presented.”
What to say to such an argument, which really is the argument going on under the covers from Herman Cain — or Rick Parry, or Michelle Bachmann, or … pick your non-Colbertian GOPer — to his target audience?
“OK Herman, Rich Lowrie, whomever, you are not a pure fool or a pure knave. Few people other than John Boehner (on the foolish side) or Mitch McConnell and Newt Gingrich (on the knavish side) fit that description. So let’s just say, armed with a fairly large dose of bad faith, which causes you not to be self-critical, you are a reasonably good embodiment of the phenotype (since we’re not determinists, we won’t say genotype) we will henceforth refer to as a knool, or, adjectivally, knoolish, i.e., a “propitious” mix of both elements.
Why in the world would someone of your stature stoop to debate a plan and its sponsor with so little credibility? It’s like Einstein debating Michele Bachmann on Quantum Mechanics.
WayneM says:
I have read the 999 plan but a lot of details seem to be missing.
Will all SS income be taxed? Will people on SS be exempt from sales tax? How about the unemployed? Exactly what is subject to the sales tax?
Food? Health care? Insurance?:Basic services? Utilities? Haircuts? Gas?
OMG… I can think of a lot of other things.
Would he really tax the cost of a new home or stocks and bonds? Housing would end as we know it and we all would be investing in another country.
I checked and there are no official comments from the AARP yet but this will not fly as written with seniors or most low income people.
As usual, the devil is in the details but there’s a lot of devil in NO details.
I sent him an email about this and a lot of other things but was also critical of his stance on the Fed. I still can’t believe he made that comment about Greenspan. That will not escape the Tea Party.
He is going to lose his momentum if he doesn’t provide more details soon. In the meantime, comments that are critical of the plan are probably premature. Everyone is just guessing.
Jared, your math is wrong. The 15% taxpayer will not pay 9% + 9% =18% unless they pay 100% of their income on purchases of “stuff.” In reality, that taxpayer pays 50% of their income on rent, car payments, etc. That makes it 9% + 4.5% = 13.5%; 1.5% less than they pay now.
A number of people have made this comment–see the various links in the piece–especially Kleinbard–for a longer discussion. The issue is not how much they consume–it’s what federal tax rate they face on their expenditures under 999 compared to the current system–that difference is 9%.
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I’m just trying to understand it here. I honestly don’t have a dog in the fight, but if 9-9-9 eliminates the payroll tax won’t that save workers 6% and their employers another 6% which would theoretically be passed on to the worker? So the $50K salary turns into $56K and 9% income tax would be $5K.
Then, if the worker spent ALL of the remaining $51K (not likely) their 9% sales tax would be $4600, for a total tax bill of $9600. This is in the ballpark of the current tax amount assuming the employee saved at least some spending was on nontaxed items. Correct?
Business tax of 9% would trickle down to the consumer somehow but that’s in similar fashion to the business tax now, only a different (lower?) amount, right? So the 27% seems like a distortion. Granted, the tax receipts woild be much lower than currently, but that’s another argument.
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- David Ilea -
Prin puterea harului lui Dumnezeu aratat noua in aceasta generatie continuam studiul Biblic despre planul veacurilor avind ca text de baza Daniel cap 2. Istoria unui popor este scrisa de istorici intodeauna in timpul intamplarilor sau dupa ce lucrurile sau intamplat.Istoria omeniri se scrie de istorici intotdeauna dupa ce lucrurile pe care vor sa le scrie se intampla. Nu sa intamplat niciunde, niciodata nici un om nu a scris istoria unui popor sau a unui imparat inainte ca poporul acela sau imparatul acela sa se fi nascut. Chiar daca istorici au scris istoria dupa multi ani de la data cele intamplate, totu-si nu au reusit de multe ori sa gaseasca adevarata desfasurare a lucrurilor despre care ei au scris. Dumnezeu nu este un om ca si noi ca sa vada lucrurile si apoi sa le scrie sau sa le povesteasca. Dumnezeu a facut un plan despre mersul intregi omenirii in eternitatea Sa inainte de nasterea timpului (vezi 2 Timotei1:9). El a declarat sfirsitul lucrurilor inainte de inceputul lor (Isaia 46:10,11). Teologi nostri moderni ne spun ca Dumnezeu ofera omului CALEA ADEVARUL si VIATA dar ramane la alegerea libera a omului, prin urmare planul facut de Dumnezeu se poate schimba in functie de vointa omului. In alte cuvinte Dumnezeu zice despre un om sau un imparat despre un neam de oameni: Uitati ce Eu am scris despre voi inca inainte de intemeierea lumii in planul Meu, dar acuma ramane la LIBERA VOASTRA ALEGERE, si daca cumva acel om, acel imparat sau acel popor nu alege potrivit cu planul lui Dumnezeu, atunci Dumnezeu poate sa zica: Oh! imi pare asa de rau ca voi nu alegeti potrivit cu cele asezate in planul Meu ......asadar trebuie sa desenez un altul plan. Multe afirmatii teologice nu merita puse in discutie. Privind prin lumina Duhului lui Dumnezeu in cartea lui Daniel la capitolul 2 gasim declaratia lui Dumnezeu, o parte importanta din istorie scrisa de Dumnezeu inainte de implinirea acestor lucruri. Din cauza celor din grupul nostru de studiu Biblic care nu vorbesc limba romana sau a celor care nu prea inteleg toate cuvintele in limba romana am gasit de bine sa urmarim in continuare o scurta descriere a capitolului 2 din cartea lui Daniel scrisa de preaiubitul nostru frate Preston Eby in limba engleza.
- J. Preston Eby -
To those longing for the coming of the Kingdom of God upon earth, today\'s march of history-making events has special interest. Milleniums ago ancient prophets saw our times, prophesied the rise and fall of world empires, revealed the frantic efforts for global peace and détente in the last days, and finally outlined clearly and unmistakably the last great world empire of all. The Spirit of God has revealed the course of human history today. He shows the finale of the effort made by mortal men to resolve their differences and live peacefully, every man beneath his own fig tree and by his own vineyard.
In the days of Daniel the prophet, Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, had a dream in the night. He awoke disturbed, perplexed. \"Then the king commanded to call the magicians, and the astrologers, and the sorcercers, and the Chaldeans, for to show the king his dreams. So they came and stood before the king\" (Dan. 2:2). The king shared with them his problem. He was certain the dream he had had was a significant one. But now he could not remember any of it! So he called upon the magicians, the astrologers, the sorcercers, and the Chaldeans to tell him the dream and to give him the interpretation of it. It was common practice for these men to give the king fanciful, colored-up interpretations of his dreams. They were usually twisted to please the king and build his ego. But now there could be no guessing! They were called upon to not only interpret the dream but to provide the dream. They were left speechless. They pled with the king to at least tell them the dream; then they would give the interpretation. But try as he might, the king was unable to remember his dream. In wrath the king ordered their execution.
Numbered among the wise men in Babylon was Daniel. He, along with others, had been taken into captivity when Nebuchadnezzar invaded and destroyed Jerusalem. The first he knew of the king\'s disturbance - and drastic action -was when Arioch, the captain of the king\'s guard, came to take him to the place of execution with the rest of the wise men. The record states: \"And Daniel answered with counsel and wisdom to Arioch the captain of the king\'s guard, which was gone forth to slay the wise men of Babylon: He answered and said to Arioch the ki ng\'s captain, Why is the decree so hasty from the king? Then Arioch made the thing known unto Daniel. Then Daniel went in, and desired of the king that he would give him time, and that he would show the king the interpretation. men Daniel went to his house, and made the thing known to Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah, his companions: That they would desire mercies of the God of heaven concerning this secret; that Daniel and his fellows should not perish with the rest of the wise men of Babylon. Then was the secret revealed unto Daniel in a night vision. Then Daniel blessed the God of heaven\" (Dan. 2:14-19).
You see, God has promised \"Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but He revealeth His secret unto His servants the prophets\" (Amos 3:7). God will not leave His people in darkness about the future. God is in control! In the annals of human history the rise and fall of empires appear to be dependent on the will and power of man. But by the Word of God the curtain is drawn aside, and we behold, behind, above, and through all the play and counterplay of human interests and power and passions, the workings of the great God, silently, patiently working out the counsels of His own will.
King Nebuchadnezzar\'s question to Daniel was to the point: \"Are you able to make known to me the dream which I have seen and the interpretation of it? Daniel answered the king, The secret which the king has demanded neither the wise men, enchanters, magicians, nor astrologers can show the king; But there is a God in heaven Who reveals secrets, and He has made known to king Nebuchadnezzar what it is that shall be in the latter days - at the end of days. Your dream and the visions of your bed are these\" (Dan. 2:26-28, Amplified Bible).
And then came the dream, one of the most dramatic revelations of all history, in which God outlined the rise and fall of global empires, moved beyond to our day and its detente among the great powers to the setting up of earth\'s last great world empire. The dream accurately portrayed the events now transpiring before our very eyes. \"God... has made known to king Nebuchadnezzar what it is that shall be in the latter days\" (Dan. 2:28, Amplified Bible).
THE GREAT IMAGE
Dan. 2:29-39
\"Thou, O King, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; And the form thereof was terrible. This image\'s head was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass, his legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay. Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces. Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth. This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king\" (Dan. 2:31-36).
Now it all came back to Nebuchadnezzar. This, indeed, was the dream he had dreamed in the night! And Daniel informed the king concerning the significance of the dream: \"As for thee, O king, thy thoughts came into thy mind upon thy bed, what should come to pass hereafter: and He that revealeth secrets MAKETH KNOWN TO THEE WHAT SHALL COME TO PASS\" (Dan. 2:29). This was a dream whose interpretation was to reveal the FUTURE. Painted dramatically, unforgettably, unmistakably, was a precise outline of world history - the rise and fall of world empires and the exact events which would lead to the establishment of the last great empire of all.
FIRST KINGDOM OF GOLD
With what interest and astonishment must the king have listened as Daniel began his interpretation of the dream and informed the king that his own kingdom was the golden head of that magnificent image. Gold, the king of metals, represented the Babylonian Empire. Daniel informed the king that the God of heaven had given him his kingdom, and made him ruler over all. The character of the Babylonian Empire is indicated by the head of gold. It was indeed the golden kingdom of a golden age. A natural center of trade and commerce, Babylon was immensely wealthy. Site of the ill-fated effort of Nimrod to erect the tower of Babel centuries before, it boasted one of the seven wonders of the world, the hanging gardens, which tradition says Nebuchadnezzar built to console his Median wife who missed the mountains of her homeland. The city of Babylon itself was another and still mightier wonder which there is neither time nor space in this article to recount. There, with the whole world prostrate at her feet, a queen in peerless grandeur, drawing from the pen of inspiration itself this glowing title, \'\'The glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees\' excellency,\" stood this magnificent city, fit capital of that great World Kingdom which was represented by the golden head of this great historic image.
SECOND KINGDOM OF SILVER
The Babylonian Empire was not to stand forever. It was to give way to another. Interpreting the dream, Daniel added: \"And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee\" (Dan. 2:39 . The breast and arms of silver represented the Medo-Persian Empire (538-331 B.C. . Fulfilling a word of the Lord (see Isa. 45:1), Cyrus damned up the river Euphrates flowing through Babylon, marched his armies beneath the two-leaved gates, and through this stratagem overthrew the Babylonian Empire. Across the banqueting hall of Belshazzar appeared the dreadful words: \"Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin,\" (\"thou art weighed in the balances and found wanting\"). Before the night was over, blood flowed in the streets as Belshazzar and his thousand lords perished at the hands of the Medo-Persian armies.
Medo-Persia, inferior to Babylon in some ways, was nonetheless a great empire. The king had two capitals, one at Persepolis and the other at Susa. The one he occupied in summer, the other in winter. Medo-Persia had the first organized mail system. While it did not launch the Pony Express, it did have the Dromedary Express - camels carrying messages throughout the empire. Its great armies are said to have numbered in the millions.
THIRD KINGDOM OF BRASS
Great as was the Medo-Persian Empire, it too, was to topple. Daniel declared: \"And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth\" (Dan. 2:39).
Alexander the Great assumed the leadership of the Grecian armies at the age of 20, and marched with lightning rapidity to conquer the then-known world by the time he was 33. From the beginning of his military career he was a marked man - a man of destiny. Ambassadors came to Alexander almost from all parts of the world: some to congratulate his victories, others to tender his crowns, others to make leagues and alliances with him. However, Alexander could conquer cities but not his own spirit. With contemptible arrogance, he claimed for himself divine honors. He gave up conquered cities, freely and unprovoked, to the mercy of his bloodthirsty and licentious soldiers. He often murdered his friends and favorites in his drunken frenzies. He encouraged such excessive drinking among his followers that on one occasion twenty of them died as the result of their carousal. Finally, having sat through one long drinking spree, he was immediately invited to another, when, after drinking to each of the twenty guests present, he drank twice, history records, incredible as it may seem, the full Herculean cup containing six of our quarts. He was seized with a violent fever and died eleven days later while he yet stood only at the threshold of his life and career - for he was only 33 years old ! His kingdom was divided among his four generals.
FOURTH KINGDOM OF IRON
What kingdom succeeded Greece as the empire of the world? Daniel said to Nebuchadnezzar: \"And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: foreasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise\" (Dan. 2:40). One kingdom did this and only one. Rome. Rome conquered Greece; it subdued all things; like iron, it broke in pieces and bruised. Rome - everywhere victorious. Rome with its universal language, Latin; its universal highway system, of which the Appian Way is a surviving example; Rome with its invincible armies moving undefeated to the outposts of the globe. Its years of power were from 168 B.C. to A.D. 476.
A logical deduction would be that after Rome another world empire would emerge. Not so!
TEN KINGDOMS EMERGE Dan. 2:43
It should be noted that at first the fourth kingdom is described unqualifiedly as strong as iron. This was the period of its strength, during which it has been likened in a history to a mighty colossus bestriding the nations, conquering everything, and giving laws to the world. But this was not to continue.
Daniel went on to say: \"And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters clay, and part of iron, the kingdom SHALL BE DIVIDED; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, foreasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay. And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom SHALL BE PARTLY STRONG AND PARTLY BROKEN\" (Dan. 2:41-42). The decline and fall of the Roman Empire was a gradual thing. Luxury, vice, an almost total moral breakdown, disintegration of the family - it culminated in A.D. 476 when the barbarian hordes overthrew the Roman Empire.
Ten kingdoms, represented by the ten toes of the image, emerged. The ten peoples which were the instruments in breaking up the Empire were the Alamanni, Ostro-Goths, Visigoths, Franks, Vandals, Suevi, Burgundians, Heruli, Anglo-Saxons, and Lombards. The kingdom was indeed divided! These barbarian peoples not only overran the Roman world, but planted themselves within the territory of the Empire and thus became the Empire! The connection between these and the modern nations of Europe is clearly discernable in such names as England, Burgundy, Lombardy, France, etc. The geography of Europe today is determined by the ethnic identities of these ten peoples!
REVIVAL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE?
Dan. 2:43
The earth was never again to see the cohesive strength of the Roman Empire welded into the superstructure of one great World Empire. For Daniel, in one of the most significant prophecies of all time, declared: \"And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they (the ten toes) shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay\" (Dan. 2:43). It is important that we take more than a mere casual perusal of these words of the prophet, for in them is contained the KEY to, and the UNDERSTANDING of events that shall unfold in this our day.
Many are loudly proclaiming a \"revival\" of the Roman Empire under the antichrist. Some speak of a \"One World Beast Government\" which they believe to be even now arising in the earth. Preachers declare to us that the European Common Market will give birth to a political alliance in the United States of Europe which is to be the coming last great revived Roman Empire through which the antichrist, or the beast, shall rule the world and universally enforce the \"mark of the beast.\" Nearly everyone is looking for a world government under the beast to arise out of a UNITED EUROPE. And right here, before going any further, I want to speak a word against that. I will say plainly that IT SHALL NOT COME TO PASS. And I am perfectly willing to have my prophecy placed along side all the other voices that dare prophesy in this hour. I do not hesitate to say that I am willing for the sands of time to declare who are the false prophets. One brother said in a meeting with us in 1971 that the \"Beast Government\" would rise up in the earth and take over the United States within three or four years. And now, four years later, he is still preaching and declaring that the beast government will rise up and take over the United States in three or four years. One wonders when \"three or four years\" will end!
One of the problems today is that men read too much trash. People read all kinds of politically oriented literature telling about the Illuminati, the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, the conspiracy on the part of the Rothschilds, Rockefellers and others who control great financial empires and international money systems, much of which is spurious, some of which is theory, and a little which is truth. They take this information and try to harmonize it and put it All together with what they imagine to be the prophecies of Daniel and the Revelation and they come out with all kinds of speculations in the name of the Lord. A while back the Spirit spoke to me and showed me that all those kinds of \"revelations\" are false because, in reality, they are NO REVELATION AT ALL! At best, they are only unholy unions of flesh and spirit, mixture of men\'s ideas, theories, speculations, and lies with the Word of God. Most of the originators of these articles and books on the great money conspiracy, the Illuminati, the Council on Foreign Relations, etc. are not Christians at all. Grant you, there are many Christians promoting these things, but they are not the ORIGINATORS of it. Any time you take the political theories and speculations of unregenerated men and mix it with the Word of God and then call it a REVELATION you are treading on dangerous territory. All of the true, proven, prophetic voices that I know across the land are not prophesying those things at all. And those who are will live to see their prophecies come to naught!
The church today is full of energetic and sincere preachers and teachers who are just full of and bubbling over concerning things that are going to happen. Sixty years ago men were telling how the Kaiser was the antichrist and was going to upset the world. Then when that failed to materialize, they frittered away much time and wasted much good paper and printer\'s ink telling what the next war was going to be like, and how it was going to be fought. There were to be death rays, and a hundred and one other horrible devices, which would wipe out whole cities and peoples in an instant. There were to be rays that would melt a gun in a soldier\'s hand even as he held it. But the next war came. There were no death rays. It was fought in much the same manner as the last one had been, except that there was very little or no poison gas used, and equipment and methods were much more effective, particularly on the Allied side. And yet, even after this next war had actually begun, certain religious periodicals published these blood-curdling articles telling of the awful inventions which were ready to be used against mankind. The actual battles which were being fought at the time the articles were published made a lie of the articles. And the unbelievable reality is that many of God\'s people are so gullible and so susceptible to this kind of sensational trash, that they have no better sense than to glory in it, even though the statements are proven false by actual events then transpiring before their very eyes.
Then Mussolini arose, and he was to be the future superman who would revive the Roman Empire and do this, that, and the other. Then Hitler formed a deceitful alliance with Russia, and the false prophets loudly predicted that they would soon fight side by side. But we now know the answers to all these predictions. They were nothing more than the presumptous guesses of idle shepherds who were destitute of truth. Other men, now that the Kaiser, Mussolini, and Hitler, and other hoped for candidates for the office of antichrist have passed out of the picture, are pinning their hopes on Henry Kissinger, or believe the beast to be a computer over in Brussels, or think Nelson Rockefeller and the World Banking System represent the beast that is preparing to take over the world. Others are loudly proclaiming that the millenium will begin in 1978-79 according to the revelation of the Great Pyramid in Egypt. I want to go on record as saying that the millenium WILL NOT BEGIN in 1978-79 and I make a standing offer to buy all your books on Pyramidology for 1¢ each in 1980. I\'ll even pay the postage on them!
My prayer is that God will deliver his people, especially those who have caught a revelation of Sonship and God\'s great end-time purposes, from all this carnal and soulish sensationalism. I fear that even many of God\'s precious end-time saints haven\'t progressed far beyond Dr. Scofield\'s footnotes when it comes to their system of end-time events as regards the antichrist, the beast, and the anticipated world government with its mark of the beast.
Before proceeding further, let us examine the prophecy of Daniel 2:43. There are two important statements in this prophecy. Says Daniel: \"And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay,
1. They shall MINGLE THEMSELVES with the seed of men:
2. But they SHALL NOT CLEAVE ONE TO ANOTHER, even as iron is not mixed with clay.\"
Hear it! \" They shall NOT cleave one to another!\" This reference is to the ten divisions of the old Roman Empire which remain with us unto this day in the nations of modern Europe. But if these ten toes must yet be formed into the superstructure of a World Empire of antichrist, where is the signification of that COMING WORLD GOVERNMENT Daniel revealed that there would be FOUR great World Empires of man. The fourth would be divided into ten parts and brought into a condition of weakness and fragmentation. Then, in the days of those kings, in their weakness and fragmentation, the God of heaven would set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed. If there is to be a World Government here at the end of the age then God left something out! God was wrong! There was an oversight on His part. Perhaps there really was to be a FIFTH WORLD GOVERNMENT in between the fourth world empire and the Kingdom of God - but in His haste to reveal to Nebuchadnezzar the plan of the ages God momentarily overlooked that fifth kingdom!
Furthermore, if these ten toes were to united into a fifth World Empire, they would have to be symbolically joined together in a sort of webfoot. Men do not have webfeet, and this image of Daniel being the image of a-man, therefore signifies no joining of the toes. If God had wished to give such a signification, He would necessarily have given Nebuchadnezzar a dream of an aquatic animal, such as a muskrat. He did no such thing. Furthermore, if there were to be this union of the empires of the toes, then Daniel, in his explanation of the vision, surely would have said something about it. Instead, he stated the exact opposite: in speaking of these toes he said: \"but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.\" If these toes still have to be joined to form a kingdom for the antichrist to rule, then they must cleave one to another, and that would make Daniel a false prophet. I leave my readers to judge who are false: Daniel, or those who contradict him and thus contradict the Word of God.
With Rome fell the last of the world\'s universal empires. Heretofore it was possible for one nation, rising superior to its neighbors in prowess, bravery, and the science of war, to consolidate them into one vast empire. But when Rome fell, such possibilities forever passed away! The iron was mixed with the clay, and lost the power of cohesion. No man or combination of men can again consolidate the fragments. No other human kingdom was to succeed it, as it had the three which went before it. It was to continue, in this tenfold division, until the kingdom of the stone smote it, upon its feet; broke them in pieces, and scattered them as the wind does the chaff of the summer threshingfloor!
THE TESTIMONY OF HISTORY
In the afterglow of a thousand battlefields, in the shattered dreams of would-be world conquerors, in the light of two world wars, the words stand invincibly true... \"they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.\"
CHARLEMAGNE TRIES IT
In A.D. 800 Charlemagne was crowned Holy Roman Emperor. Voltaire, an able French writer and intellectual, observed-wittily and sarcastically that while the coronation had plenty of pomp associated with it, as for the empire, it was \"neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire.\" Charlemagne grasped for world empire, came close, then found himself defeated by the words of the great God! \"They shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.\"
LOUIS XIV TRIES IT
Louis the Fourteenth was a vain And pompous Frenchman. He sent his armies into Holland and the Low Countries, to no avail. At death he, too, had failed. Before him, Charles the Fifth had marched his armies across much of Europe, then found himself unable to achieve world empire. The words still stood: \'\'They shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.\"
NAPOLEON TRIES IT
From the ashes of the French Revolution arose Napoleon Bonaparte. \"I will tear the heart out of glory,\" he promised a friend. In Marengo, Ulm, and Austerlitz - everywhere Napoleon\'s armies were victorious. Then came the invasion of Russia. Due to a set of circumstances Napoleon made a fateful decision. He would return to France. The retreat that followed was the most disastrous of all history. Literally hundreds of thousands of soldiers fell in the ice and snow as the coldest winter of Russian history struck. Napoleon was captured, and escaped, and returning to France rallied his troops for one last great effort to unite the nations of earth under his control. June 15, 1815, as the sun sank on the third day of the Battle of Waterloo, Napoleon\'s career sank with it. In captivity Napoleon wrote his memoirs. And he gave what he felt was the reason for his failure: \"God Almighty has been too much for me!\"
\"They shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.\"
KAISER WILHELM TRIES IT
For decades prior to the outbreak of World War I, the world had been at peace. Men anticipated the Golden Age. On the fateful night when the ultimatum delivered by the British Empire to the Kaiser had been rejected, Sir Edward Grey stood with his military aide looking out over the London skyline. It was late. Lights in the buildings of the city were winking and going out. Pondering the implications of the outbreak of the first World War, Grey turned to his aide and said: \"The lamps are going out all over Europe. We shall not see them lit again in our lifetime.\"
Kaiser Wilhelm\'s armies met allied forces in No Man\'s Land in France. For a time it appeared victory would be his. The horror of trench fighting had demoralized the allied armies. Then came the battle of the Marne. From every standpoint, German armies should have been victorious. But up and down allied battle lines the slogan went, \"They shall not pass.\" Victory went to the allied armies! Before the war was over 60,000,000 casualties had been sustained on the land, in the sea, and in the air. Armistice day cameo Kaiser Wilhelm had failed as had all the others before him. He too, had come face to face with the words of our God: \"They shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.\"
HITLER TRIES IT
In the 1930\'s, fed by the injustice of the Versailles Treaty, the storm clouds of war began to gather. September 5, 1939, Hitler\'s panzer divisions swept through flimsy barriers that separated Poland and Germany. World War II had begun. Unstable and mercurial, Hitler deceived and misled the Germans, a people with a proud and ancient heritage. He sought absolute power for himself. He held out the promise of a thousand-year Reich.
Five weeks, and Poland was defeated. The Low Countries were quickly conquered too, with Blitzkrieg, a new lightning war technique that utilized the mightiest mechanized army the world had ever seen. Bypassing France \'s \"invincible\" Maginot Line, Hitler plunged through France to Dunkirk. Military experts gave England a few weeks - at the most a few months - before she too would be crushed beneath Hitler\'s mighty military machine. Nazi armies at that point seemed to be unstoppable. But Dunkirk was a turning point. For when the picture appeared hopeless and the logical course for Britain to follow was surrender, Winston Churchill, British prime minister, announced the course England would take. \"We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight in the seas and oceans, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.\"
Had Hitler at this point launched a massive invasion of England with paratroops and air cover supporting, there is little question the British Isles would have fallen. Possibly, eventually, the whole world. But curiously he did not. He was sure England would sue for peace. So he waited - for an event that never came. Then, too late, after England along with refugee troops from Europe had had opportunity to rally, Hitler launched the Battle of Britain. Hitler invaded Russia, making the same mistake of Napoleon before him. Later came D-Day, June 6, 1944, and the invasion of continental Europe by the allies. Hitler died a suicide in a Berlin Bunker. Like military leaders before him who had dreamed of world conquest, Hitler was defeated. But he was not defeated by military might - this he had in superabundance. Rather, it was the fateful words of our never-failing God that doomed him to failure: \"And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another even as iron is not mixed with clay.\"
WORLD GOVERNMENT IN OUR TIME?
Time and again men have dreamed of rearing on these ten fragments of the fourth kingdom ONE mighty empire. A single verse of scripture was stronger than all their hosts... \"Partly strong, and partly broken ,\" was the prophetic description. And this is exactly the history of these ten kingdoms ! \"They shall not cleave together!\" God announced. And yet men have tried to mold them together. And men of God, who ought to know better, predict that they shall unite and form a FIFTH WORLD EMPIRE - a WORLD GOVERNMENT in our time! \"This shall not be,\" says the Word of God. \"This has not been,\" replies the book of history.
But in the light of history\'s dramatic chapters and the current move toward a united Europe - a UNITED STATES OF EUROPE - what of the future? Will the elusive mirage of world peace based upon a trust in European solidarity, the result of wishful thinking, again cause men to forget the counsel of the Word of God, \"They shall not cleave one to another\"? Let me say that alliances may come, even a strong-man may arise, and it may appear that the iron an d the miry clay of the feet and toes have finally fused, but the Word of God still stands: \"They shall not cleave one to another.\" It may seem that old animosities have disappeared and the, the \"ten Kings\" shall become one empire, but \"the scripture cannot be broken!\' (Jn. 10:35).
THE COMING WORLD EMPIRE
Dan. 2:35,44-45; I Peter 2:9; Rev. 12:5; Rev. 14:1-20; Rev. 2:26-27; Gen. 11:4-9
The awe-inspiring vision of Nebuchadnezzar did not end with the vision of the feet and toes of iron and clay. The greatest event of all was yet to come, for he saw a stone cut out of a mountain without hands which smote the image on its unsteady feet. The blow fell upon the feet because they represent the ruling power at the time of the end when these events take place and the vision is fulfilled. The moment that blow was struck by the stone from the mountain, the whole Babylonish system fell and crumbled to dust beneath its own weight. It became like the dust of a summer threshing floor and the wind blew it away. m en the little stone cut from a mountain itself became a great mountain and filled the whole earth (Dan. 2:35,44-45). This, of course, is the beginning of the Kingdom of God which will eventually fill the whole earth!
God\'s own nation on earth must take up the scepter. This kingdom SHALL NEVER BE DESTROYED. \"Never\"\' covers a long time. This kingdom of God \"shall not be left to other people.\" The four preceding kingdoms were left to others. Babylon became a prey to Medo-Persia, which in turn was seized and held by Greece, which in turn was left to Rome to subject and dominate. Rome has fallen into ten fragments which in turn shall be subjected to the kingdom of God. It is God\'s kingdom which must \"break in pieces and CONSUME A-L-L these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever!\" (Dan. 2:44). Furthermore, this is no fiction or fairy tale: \"the dream is certain and the interpretation thereof sure\" (Dan. 2:45).
As the fourth kingdom, or the Roman Empire, was represented in a two-fold state, first strong and flourishing, \"with legs of iron,\" and then weakened and divided, \"with feet and toes, part of iron and part of clay,\'\' so this fifth kingdom, or Christ\'s kingdom on earth, is likewise described in two states. But while Rome passes from strength to weakness, from iron to iron mixed with miry clay, the fifth kingdom begins small, merely a stone, and advances to become a great mountain. First it is cut out of a mountain to become the kingdom of a stone. The final phase is when itself becomes a mountain, \"and filled the whole earth.\"
The great majority of commentators have missed the truth here assuming this stone to be Jesus Christ, when God says it is A KINGDOM. The text does not state that God sets up the Christ, Who shall never be destroyed. Furthermore in verse 45 we find this atone \"cut out of a mountain.\" Christ was not cut out of a mountain. But this fifth kingdom was cut out of a mountain. And the next verse definitely states that this kingdom is set up by God, \"in the days of these kings,\" that is, in the days of the kingdoms of the toes.
Peter, when writing to the CHURCH, says: \"But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, AN HOLY NATION, a peculiar people\'\' (I Peter 2:9). He calls the church A NATION. He also calls them a RACE, for the word \"generation\" is from the Greek word \"genea\" which means \"race.\" The Amplified Bible renders this: \"But ye are a chosen race.\" Nations are generally built up after ethnic lines. The church is both a race and a nation because it is composed of people who have been BEGOTTEN and BORN OF GOD! God is thus the head of an entirely new ETHNIC GROUP which is HEAVENLY! Born of the Spirit! The off-spring of GOD! And God has formed this new race of men into a NATION. It is God\'s nation. He is the king. And in the scriptures mountains are used to denote kingdoms or nations. So when we read in Dan. 2:45 of a stone CUT OUT OF A MOUNTAIN, it is a stone cut out of a kingdom out of a NATION! And that nation, or mountain, is GOD\'S CHURCH! The stone is, therefore, Christ with all the elect Sons of God.
The very same analogy is drawn in John \'s vision of a woman bringing forth a manchild. The woman is the church. The true church. The manchild, born out of the woman, is that company of God\'s overcoming Sons who are to \"rule all nations with a rod of iron\" (Rev. 12:5). So the WOMAN of Revelation 12 and the MOUNTAIN from which the stone is cut in Dan. 2:45 ARE ONE AND THE SAME - the church. The MANCHILD out of the woman and the STONE out of the mountain are the very same thing -they are the 144,000 overcoming Sons of God who come to Mount Zion to reign! Immediately following the marvelous description of this 144,000 Sons of God in Rev. 14:1-7, John saw an angel fly through heaven saying, \"Babylon is fallen, is fallen.\" If you read the remainder of the chapter, you will see vividly the process of the destruction of this Babylonish system by the stone which was cut out of the mountain without hands. Furthermore, the manchild, the stone, the 144,000 on Mount Zion are all the same as the OVERCOMERS out of the churches in Rev. chapters 2 and 3. Of these OVERCOMERS it is written: \'\'And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers\" (Rev. 2:26-27). Daniel says of the STONE: \"And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever. For as much as thou sawest that the STONE was cut out the mountain without hands, and that IT brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter; and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.\"
So the stone RULES and breaks in pieces all these kingdoms. The overcomers RULE and break the nations into shivers. The manchild RULES \"all nations\" with a rod of iron. The 144,000 are RULING from Mount Zion, that Mount of kingship and dominion. And each one of these \"comes out\" of something else - out of a larger group of God\'s people! They are ALL fulfilling the same function - smashing the kingdoms of this world and bringing the Kingdom of God to pass in the earth! This is God\'s GOVERNMENT. And THIS IS THE NEXT WORLD GOVERNMENT After Rome, the NEXT WORLD EMPIRE IS THE KINGDOM OF GOD!
Press on, saints of God, for we are on the winning side! We are on the way up, the kingdoms of this world are on the way down! All of the distress and perplexity among the nations today does not indicate the imminent rise of a world dictatorship under the antichrist. Rather it heralds the hour for the final collapse and destruction of this present evil system of things and the victory of God\'s glorious kingdom. The kingdoms of puny and unregenerated men are growing old and wearing out like a garment. Communism cannot stand. Democracy cannot stand. They are all time worn and threadbare, faded and dilapidated - ready to be rolled up like a worn-out garment and replaced by a new order.
But men - under satanic inspiration - boast and plan for a One World Government. But it matters not what the Fabian Socialists or the International Financiers have planned. Satan is the god of \"this world.\" And Satan is a liar! Don\'t you believe what HE SAYS! Just because he plans to take over the world and form it into a world empire under his headship doesn\'t mean that he shall succeed. Oh yes, he has it planned. And how many christians believe him! He says he is going to do it so we believe him. me confession of many of God\'s people corresponds with what the devil is promoting. Remember saints - milleniums ago Satan was promoting the same idea. \"And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth\" (Gen. 11:4). But GOD had other plans! \"And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another\'s speech. So the Lord scattered them abroad... and they left off to build the city\" (Gen. 11:5-8).
The effort to World Government today is just as contrary to the will and word of God as was Babel of old. And the whole world, including the people of God, must yet again, one more time, come face to face with the word of the Lord: \"They shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.\"
The present nations of the earth, and most of the christians of the world today, will be surprised... shocked... when God steps in again and derails the well laid and proud and boastful plans of the great men of the earth - and brings forth a company of unknown and unrecognized Sons of God - who shall become the instrument of God to establish in the earth HIS OWN WORLD GOVERNMENT.
\"But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even forever and ever... the Ancient of days came, and judgement was given to the SAINTS of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom... and the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, AND ALL DOMINIONS SHALL SERVE AND OBEY HIM\" (Dan. 7:18, 22, 27). Hallelujah!
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Another trip to Nairn County shows what football's about
The Centenary Stand and the dugout at Station Park
Jonny reports on the professionalism and dedication of Nairn County - and how pyramid-style promotion to the Scottish Leagues is actually a threat - rather than something to strive for.
When they said, "Haste ye back" my many friends at Nairn County meant it, so I couldn't wait to return to Station Park with my pal, Iain Ramage.
It was another taste of the Highland League as the Wee County faced Lossiemouth.
Getting the warmest of welcomes from manager Les Fridge just seconds to kickoff, I felt like the away boss coming out of the tunnel for a prematch hug!
A football trip to the Highlands is literally and metaphorically a breath of fresh air. From the turnstiles, walking over the NCFC paving into the stand, this is a club aiming to be the very best it can be.
The newly refurbished stand marking County's centenary with plush new home changing room, gives everyone a pride to play for the shirt.
I've got the wrong boots on!
The day after the game, volunteers spend five hours forking the pitch back to top condition.
Any molly-cuddled "professional" who complains that 50 grand a week's not enough should come to Station Park and see the dedication of everyone here.
Nairn County came into being in 1914 staying unbeaten for their first five years. Quite an achievement? The Great War broke out within days of the club's formation - the Wee County didn't play their first game until 1919!
And as it was the day before Remembrance Sunday, the minute's silence in this 100th anniversary year had extra poignancy.
To the action and County's players had to bounce back from the bitter disappointment of Scottish Cup exit at Arbroath, "smoked out" by the ref in a narrow 2-1 defeat.
And despite superior possession and play, Lossie took the lead from the spot. Post-Arbroath, it knocked confidence. What we needed was a goal - and we got a cracker!
Martin 'Bobo' MacDonald levelled it jumping way higher than Lossie's defence to glance in a header from a corner.
Later we had a couple of collectors items; the normally clinical Conor Gethins had a spot-kick saved, but if County faithful fret over too many goals from one source, they need worry no longer.
Sam Urquhart struck FOUR and with that, Wee fans have a new hero. He's left and right footed, fleet of movement, full of running and knows where the goal is.
Gethins was later substituted. A sharp reminder that the boss now has choices.
Not sure what formation that is but what a picture!
The Northern Irishman's not getting younger and he's asked for a transfer. He works for the Brora Rangers owners. Will he even be at Station Park next season?
The times they are a-changing!
And on Ladies Day, where the main stand had some unusually noisy support, these lads must've caught the eye!
Kyle Wilkie likes to play and Mike Morrison distributed the ball well. In goal, Calum Antell, a Hibs youth player and still wearing green is a commanding presence.
The Main Stand lasses enthusiasm, cheering a goal even after it was flagged offside, helped create a rather unique atmosphere!
But Sam's goals settled nerves and as the game wore on, County just got "better and better" as Andy Gray might say. Nairn were 5-2 winners.
After an on-pitch chat with the boss, he proudly showed me around the new changing room, complete with hallmarked badge. They really are the pride of the division.
Recalling his early days at Chelsea, Les told me he'd played with a young Paul Lambert on his return north to St Mirren. There's a fine line between success and failure. At Motherwell, Lambert couldn't attract a £100,000 bid from Dundee United but moving onto Dortmund, the rest is history. He came back to Scottish football a one-and-a-half-million-pound player with Celtic - and a European champion.
I'm cuptied and not matchfit but terms were a formality!
Nairn County could be a Scottish League club one day. The SPFL now has a pyramid system of promotion and relegation which extends to the Highland League.
But the Wee County is firmly rooted in its community. When you go and support the team, there's a real feeling of connection; something you don't get sitting next to a South Korean tourist at Stamford Bridge!
Walking down the High Street, I got into a discussion with Paul MacLeod's mum as she served me at the newsagent. That's how Nairn is.
Les: "Did I tell you that last time, Jonny?"
Promotion would spell real upheaval. Volunteers who keep the club going on so many levels couldn't leave full-time jobs to make a midweek trip to Berwick Rangers. They'd have to quit the club - but who'd take their place?
So let's say all the best to Brora Rangers and may I wish the Wee County many happy years near the top of the Highland League!
Thanks as always to Iain Ramage and Donald Matheson, to Les Fridge and the Gurn from Nurn for the memorable time.
My first trip to Station Park was also against Lossiemouth. Click for the story.
by Soccermongery's Jonny Gould on Wednesday, November 12, 2014
Labels: Highland League, Les Fridge, Lossiemouth, Nairn County, Scotland
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SciFi Weekend: Raggedy Man Goodnight–The Time of the Doctor
The Time of the Doctor tried to do many things at once: be a Christmas episode, be an action story, tie up questions from the Matt Smith era, be a regeneration story, and be an homage to the Matt Smith era. It succeeded or failed to various degrees in each, but in the end managed to do enough to be a memorable chapter in Doctor Who, especially as a proper way to end the story of the eleventh Doctor.
After recent Christmas episodes which were more clearly based upon Christmas stories or themes, The Time of the Doctor resorted to naming the town where the Doctor spent centuries Christmas, along with brief scenes of Christmas dinner at Clara’s home. There were far too many other things to accomplish to get bogged down with a true Christmas story, but this sure gave a new meaning to the War on Christmas.
Sometimes if felt like he has been making new interpretations up as he went along, but Steven Moffat did try to tie up loose ends from not only the Matt Smith years but, in dealing with the Time Lords and the regeneration limit, the entire series. He handled the regeneration limit well, explaining the situation for those who have not already read about it on the blogs and without dwelling on it too long for those who have already heard the discussion. Matt Smith quickly explained to Clara that he was on his last regeneration once you counted the John Hurt Doctor:
CLARA: “But you don’t die. You change – you pop right back with a new face.”
THE DOCTOR: “Not forever. I can change 12 times. 13 versions of me. 13 silly Doctors.”
CLARA: “But you’re number eleven, so -”
THE DOCTOR: “Are we forgetting Captain Grumpy? I didn’t call myself the Doctor during the Time War, but it was still a regeneration.”
Explaining yet another previously uncounted regeneration, the Doctor pointed out that “Number Ten once regenerated and kept the same face – I had vanity issues at the time.”. Of course we knew that somehow he would not die at Tranzalor any more than he died at Lake Silencio, but instead would regenerate despite the previously established and easily broken regeneration limit.
Before nearly dying of old age, the Doctor spent over 300 years on Tranzalor fighting the Daleks and others at a standoff. Several other enemies were also thrown in, often quickly. The Weeping Angels were present only to briefly grab Clara’s ankle (without sending her back in time). The Cybermen had a cameo, with far more memorable scenes from Handles, a severed Cyberman head who chronologically became the companion to spend the most time with the Doctor and was reminiscent of K-9. These cameos would have been pointless, and even distracting, in a normal story, but were present as part of the homage to the many events of the Matt Smith years.
After frequently throwing out the question, Doctor Who? into many stories, Moffat made the answer a key point of this story. Unfortunately the explanation makes little sense once you think about it. The Time Lords were hidden in a pocket universe and would not return until the Doctor said his real name. It doesn’t make much sense as to why this would be so important and why the Time Lords would even think that the Doctor would want them to return. Many events during the Matt Smith years have been revealed as being based upon attempts to prevent the Doctor from bringing back the Time Lords. Why would they think that the Doctor would do so after he was the one who made them disappear? Gallifrey was hidden behind the cracks in time which have been present in multiple episodes. Why didn’t the issue of the Doctor’s name or the return of the Time Lords come up around prior cracks.
I fortunately downloaded the BBC broadcast as I hear that at least one key explanation was cut from the BBC America version for commercials. The Silents were revealed to have been genetically engineered priests. Once someone gave their confession, they would forget about the confession. A cool idea until you question why. The key line which I heard was cut from the US showing was that Madame Kovarian led a renegade offshoot of the Silents from the Papal Mainframe which was dedicated to killing the Doctor as the way to prevent him from speaking his name and allowing the Time Lords to return.
Moffat managed to tie in many previous events into this narrative, including the explosion of the TARDIS. River Song was created as a perfect psychopath to kill the Doctor (but he wound up marrying her instead). The Doctor’s greatest fear behind a door in The God Complex was revealed to be a crack in time. The episode included other references to earlier in this regeneration, such as eating fish fingers and custard before regenerating, as the Doctor did after regenerating from Ten to Eleven. There were also references to earlier regenerations, such as using “reverse the polarity to the neutron flow.” Eleven has now said this more often than the Third Doctor actually did. The Doctor also referred to The Five Doctors with use of the“Seal of the High Council of Gallifrey – nicked it off the Master in the Death Zone.”
Moffat created a memorable new character in Tasha Lem. She seems to have had a romantic history with the Doctor and can even fly the TARDIS. She explained to Clara,”Flying the TARDIS was always easy. It was flying the Doctor I never quite mastered.” Such dialog could easily come from River Song, the only person other than the Doctor who we previously saw fly the TARDIS. The Doctor told Tasha Lem, “You’ve been fighting the psychopath inside you all your life,” reminding us of how River Song was called a psychopath in the same episode. Perhaps the episode was written with thought of including River Song. There has been some speculation that Tasha Lem is yet another manifestation of River Song, possibly taking a new bodily form after leaving the library.
Moffat also has a habit of bringing up themes and then dropping them (but you never know if he will one day return to them). The Doctor faking his death at Lake Silencio had no long term meaning as subsequently everyone still seems aware that he is alive. Clara’s wiping of the Dalek memory of the Doctor in Asylum of the Daleks has been forgotten. Moffat played with the meme that the Doctor lies by putting him in a truth field in this episode. This was also forgotten. The Doctor lied to Clara when he said he told her he would not send her away and lied at the end about having a plan.
Moffat even took advantage of Matt Smith having cut his hair for a movie role. The Doctor hid a spare key to the TARDIS under a wig. The scene only worked because of the knowledge that Matt Smith was actually wearing a wig during the filming of the episode. It also reminded me of when Sam Malone revealed he was wearing a wig on Cheers after word got out that Ted Danson actually wore one.
The episode might have been improved by making it longer than an hour and providing a more sensible conclusion. The Time Lords sat behind the crack and did nothing for years. Then Clara said, “His name is the Doctor. All the name he needs, all you need to know about him. And if you love him… help him.” This was enough to get the Time Lords to act. While questionable, it is at least consistent with the Doctor Who theme of often having the companions perform important actions to save the Doctor.In a way it also resolves the issue of the Doctor’s real name by pointing out that it doesn’t really matter.
The Time Lords gave the Doctor a new regeneration cycle. Previous episodes have established that this is very rare, but not without precedent. It remains to be seen whether twelve more regenerations will be enough to keep the Doctor alive as long as the show continues or if another way will need to be found to grant additional regenerations in the distant future. The regeneration energy was enough to enable the Doctor to easily shoot the Dalek ship out of the sky. If the Time Lord’s possess this much power, it is hard to believe that they were ever seriously threatened by the Daleks during the Time War.
Time has been rewritten and the Doctor did not die on Tranzalor. This would also mean that there is no tomb where Clara was fragmented into multiple copies to save the Doctor from The Great Intelligence. Yet another of those timey wimey paradoxes.
The regeneration was drawn out, enabling Matt Smith to appear yet again as a young man, eating custard. The episode showed growth for the Doctor. Ten didn’t want to go and Eleven hated endings. Finally Eleven was ready and accepted his fate as “times change, and so must I.” As he saw Amelia Pond, the first person he saw as the Eleventh, he said, “I will always remember when the Doctor was me.”
Karen Gillan will always be the companion most closely thought of with Matt Smith. Like David Tennant visiting Billie Piper for one last time before he regenerated, a vision of Amy Pond got to say to the Doctor, “Raggedy man. Goodnight.” Ironically both Karen Gillan and Matt Smith were wearing wigs in this picture, having cut their hair for movie roles.
Some fans have been disappointed because the regeneration scene did not show a prolonged transformation of the face from Matt Smith to Peter Capaldi. I suspect this might have been for budgetary reasons. I thought it was far more symbolic to have Matt Smith remove his bow tie just before changing. Bow ties and fez hats belong to the Eleventh. Others might wear them in his honor, but it will always be remembered that it was Matt Smith who said, “Bow ties are cool.”
As with previous regenerations, Twelve was observant of his bodily changes.”I’ve got new kidneys! I don’t like the color!” There are bigger concerns when the TARDIS alarms go off and he asks Clara, “Do you happen to know how to fly this thing?” It sounds like we might have another crash scene coming up, unless either he is either messing around with Clara or soon regains his memory.
Unfortunately we have to wait until next fall to find out.
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Unbuilt Works Find Life in Art
Manhattan Guardian and Seven Soldiers are two new comic books from Scottish writer Grant Morrison. The New York Times reports that the comics are noteworthy not only for the gritty realism and compelling ideas that Morrison always brings to the table, but also for their representation of a Manhattan that could have been. A veritable feast for conceptual design buffs, Morrison’s New York is filled with unbuilt proposals from some of histories most noteworthy architects. Frank Lloyd Wright’s unbuilt Ellis Island Key project, for instance – shown here in the comic and in FLW’s original drawing (click for larger images). If you look close enough, the fictional Manhattan skyline also includes an unbuilt office tower by Hans Hollein, an elevated highway long supported by uber-planner Rober Moses, and a hotel proposed by Antonio Gaudi – a tower that some wanted to be built on the WTC site.
The article reminded me of Wim Wenders’ ficitonal Paris in his phenomenal 1991 film Until the End of The World This epic adventure takes place in a not too distant future that includes as part of the Parisian skyline, Jean Nouvel’s unbuilt ‘La Tour Sans Fin.’ Planned for La Defense, Nouvel’s tower was an elegant spire whose transparency increased as it rose, until it appeared to dissolve into the sky. I seem to remember reading in a Nouvel monograph that the contextual presentation rendering was so realistic, some people believed it already existed.
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Germany split France in half.
Guarantee of the Right to Freedom of Speech in Japan—A Comparison with Doctrines in Germany
Germany occupied and governed the north, and the south would be ruled under a puppet government in Vichy. With France under heel, Hitler turned to Britain. The German bombing of London left thousands homeless, hurt, or dead. This child, holding a stuffed toy, sits in the rubble as adults ponder their fate in the background. It was the largest land invasion in history.
France and Poland had fallen in weeks, and German officials hoped to break Russia before the winter.
And initially, the Blitzkrieg worked. The German military quickly conquered enormous swaths of land and netted hundreds of thousands of prisoners. But Russia was too big and the Soviets were willing to sacrifice millions to stop the fascist advance.
After recovering from the initial shock of the German invasion, Stalin moved his factories east of the Urals, out of range of the Luftwaffe. The German army slogged forward. It split into three pieces and stood at the gates of Moscow, Stalingrad, and Leningrad, but supply lines now stretched thousands of miles, Soviet infrastructure had been destroyed, partisans harried German lines, and the brutal Russian winter arrived.
Germany had won massive gains but the winter found Germany exhausted and overextended.
GUN VIOLENCE, STREET CRIME, AND SELF-DEFENSE
In the north, the German army starved Leningrad to death during an interminable siege; in the south, at Stalingrad, the two armies bled themselves to death in the destroyed city; and, in the center, on the outskirts of Moscow, in sight of the capital city, the German army faltered and fell back. Twenty-five million Soviet soldiers and civilians died during the Great Patriotic War, and roughly 80 percent of all German casualties during the war came on the Eastern Front.
The German army and its various conscripts suffered , casualties at the Battle of Stalingrad alone. In December , Germany began its long retreat. While Hitler marched across Europe, the Japanese continued their war in the Pacific. In the United States dissolved its trade treaties with Japan and the following year cut off supplies of war materials by embargoing oil, steel, rubber, and other vital goods. It was hoped that economic pressure would shut down the Japanese war machine.
Diplomatic relations between Japan and the United States collapsed. The United States demanded that Japan withdraw from China; Japan considered the oil embargo a de facto declaration of war. Japanese military planners, believing that American intervention was inevitable, planned a coordinated Pacific offensive to neutralize the United States and other European powers and provide time for Japan to complete its conquests and fortify its positions.
On the morning of December 7, , the Japanese launched a surprise attack on the American naval base at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. Japanese military planners hoped to destroy enough battleships and aircraft carriers to cripple American naval power for years. Twenty-four hundred Americans were killed in the attack. American isolationism fell at Pearl Harbor. Japan also assaulted Hong Kong, the Philippines, and American holdings throughout the Pacific, but it was the attack on Hawaii that threw the United States into a global conflict.
Within a week of Pearl Harbor the United States had declared war on the entire Axis, turning two previously separate conflicts into a true world war. This pair of U. One shows Marines at war in a lush jungle, reminding viewers that the war was taking place in exotic lands; the other depicted women taking on new jobs as a patriotic duty. Recruiting Publicity Bureau, U. Beck Engraving Co. The American war began slowly.
Britain had stood alone militarily in Europe, but American supplies had bolstered their resistance. In November, the first American combat troops entered the European war, landing in French Morocco and pushing the Germans east while the British pushed west. Afterward, Roosevelt announced to the press that the Allies would accept nothing less than unconditional surrender.
Meanwhile, the Army Air Force AAF sent hundreds and eventually thousands of bombers to England in preparation for a massive strategic bombing campaign against Germany. The plan was to bomb Germany around the clock. American bombers hit German ball-bearing factories, rail yards, oil fields, and manufacturing centers during the day, while the British RAF carpet-bombed German cities at night.
Flying in formation, they initially flew unescorted, since many believed that bombers equipped with defensive firepower flew too high and too fast to be attacked. However, advanced German technology allowed fighters to easily shoot down the lumbering bombers. On some disastrous missions, the Germans shot down almost 50 percent of American aircraft. However, the advent and implementation of a long-range escort fighter let the bombers hit their targets more accurately while fighters confronted opposing German aircraft. In , Allied forces began a bombing campaign of railroad and oil targets in Bucharest, part of the wider policy of bombing expeditions meant to incapacitate German transportation.
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Americans attempted to land troops behind them at Anzio on the western coast of Italy, but, surrounded, they suffered heavy casualties. D-Day, as it became popularly known, was the largest amphibious assault in history. The Allied landings at Normandy were successful, and although progress across France was much slower than hoped for, Paris was liberated roughly two months later.
Allied bombing expeditions meanwhile continued to level German cities and industrial capacity. Perhaps four hundred thousand German civilians were killed by allied bombing. The Nazis were crumbling on both fronts. Hitler tried but failed to turn the war in his favor in the west. The Battle of the Bulge failed to drive the Allies back to the English Channel, but the delay cost the Allies the winter. The invasion of Germany would have to wait, while the Soviet Union continued its relentless push westward, ravaging German populations in retribution for German war crimes.
German counterattacks in the east failed to dislodge the Soviet advance, destroying any last chance Germany might have had to regain the initiative. In late April American and Soviet troops met at the Elbe while the Soviets pushed relentlessly by Stalin to reach Berlin first and took the capital city in May, days after Hitler and his high command had committed suicide in a city bunker.
Germany was conquered. The European war was over. Allied leaders met again, this time at Potsdam, Germany, where it was decided that Germany would be divided into pieces according to current Allied occupation, with Berlin likewise divided, pending future elections. Stalin also agreed to join the fight against Japan in approximately three months. As in Europe, the war in the Pacific started slowly. After running out of ammunition and supplies, the garrison of American and Filipino soldiers surrendered.
The prisoners were marched eighty miles to their prisoner-of-war camp without food, water, or rest. Ten thousand died on the Bataan Death March. But as Americans mobilized their armed forces, the tide turned. Combat was vicious. At Guadalcanal American soldiers saw Japanese soldiers launch suicidal charges rather than surrender.
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Many Japanese soldiers refused to be taken prisoner or to take prisoners themselves. Such tactics, coupled with American racial prejudice, turned the Pacific Theater into a more brutal and barbarous conflict than the European Theater. Japanese defenders fought tenaciously. Japanese soldiers bled the Americans in their advance across the Pacific. At Iwo Jima, an eight-square-mile island of volcanic rock, seventeen thousand Japanese soldiers held the island against seventy thousand Marines for over a month.
At the cost of nearly their entire force, they inflicted almost thirty thousand casualties before the island was lost. By February , American bombers were in range of the mainland. Over sixty Japanese cities were fire-bombed. American fire bombs killed one hundred thousand civilians in Tokyo in March In June , after eighty days of fighting and tens of thousands of casualties, the Americans captured the island of Okinawa. The mainland of Japan was open before them. It was a viable base from which to launch a full invasion of the Japanese homeland and end the war.
Estimates varied, but given the tenacity of Japanese soldiers fighting on islands far from their home, some officials estimated that an invasion of the Japanese mainland could cost half a million American casualties and perhaps millions of Japanese civilians. Historians debate the many motivations that ultimately drove the Americans to use atomic weapons against Japan, and many American officials criticized the decision, but these would be the numbers later cited by government leaders and military officials to justify their use.
Early in the war, fearing that the Germans might develop an atomic bomb, the U. Physicist J. Hiroshima was hit on August 6. Over one hundred thousand civilians were killed. Nagasaki followed on August 9. Perhaps eighty thousand civilians were killed. Emperor Hirohito announced the surrender of Japan on August On September 2, aboard the battleship USS Missouri , delegates from the Japanese government formally signed their surrender.
World War II was finally over. Almost eighteen million men served in World War II. Volunteers rushed to join the military after Pearl Harbor, but the majority—over ten million—were drafted into service. Volunteers could express their preference for assignment, and many preempted the draft by volunteering. Soldiers were indoctrinated into the chain of command and introduced to military life. After basic, soldiers moved on to more specialized training. For example, combat infantrymen received additional weapons and tactical training, and radio operators learned transmission codes and the operation of field radios.
Soldiers and Marines bore the brunt of on-the-ground combat. After transportation to the front by trains, ships, and trucks, they could expect to march carrying packs weighing anywhere from twenty to fifty pounds containing rations, ammunition, bandages, tools, clothing, and miscellaneous personal items in addition to their weapons. Sailors, once deployed, spent months at sea operating their assigned vessels.
Larger ships, particularly aircraft carriers, were veritable floating cities. In most, sailors lived and worked in cramped conditions, often sleeping in bunks stacked in rooms housing dozens of sailors. Senior officers received small rooms of their own. Sixty thousand American sailors lost their lives in the war. Army and soldiers served in ground and air crews. World War II saw the institutionalization of massive bombing campaigns against cities and industrial production.
Large bombers like the B Flying Fortress required pilots, navigators, bombardiers, radio operators, and four dedicated machine gunners. Airmen on bombing raids left from bases in England or Italy or from Pacific islands and endured hours of flight before approaching enemy territory.
At high altitude, and without pressurized cabins, crews used oxygen tanks to breathe and on-board temperatures plummeted. Once in enemy airspace, crews confronted enemy fighters and anti-aircraft flak from the ground.
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While fighter pilots flew as escorts, the Air Corps suffered heavy casualties. Tens of thousands of airmen lost their lives. On the ground, conditions varied. Soldiers in Europe endured freezing winters, impenetrable French hedgerows, Italian mountain ranges, and dense forests.
Germans fought with a Western mentality familiar to Americans. Soldiers in the Pacific endured heat and humidity, monsoons, jungles, and tropical diseases. And they confronted an unfamiliar foe. Americans, for instance, could understand surrender as prudent; many Japanese soldiers saw it as cowardice.
What Americans saw as a fanatical waste of life, the Japanese saw as brave and honorable. Atrocities flourished in the Pacific at a level unmatched in Europe. Premium Digital. Team or Business Access.
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Dubai, United Arab Emirates - 14 July 2019: Arc Skills, the world’s first lifelong learning company, has developed a unique gamified programme to teach a comprehensive set of 21st century skills in UAE schools, and it is showing its first, extremely positive, results. Every one of the 1,200 children taught across nine UAE schools – including Our Own English High School, Al Ain; GEMS Modern Academy; and GEMS New Millennium – has developed new competencies through the programme.
The UAE-based company’s SOAR Skills 21 programme utilises engaging team activities, interactive quizzes, technology and gamification to immerse students in an alternate world of superheroes and supervillains to teach skills such as self-management, communication, collaboration and problem solving.
In a post-programme survey of 200 UAE students who completed Skills 21, 85% said they prefer the elements of gamified learning over traditional learning, while 90% said the game immersed them in the learning. Every student surveyed said they felt they had learnt something new about themselves and acquired new skills.
Skills 21 is the middle school programme of Arc Skills’ SOAR Pathway – which takes students from grade 1 to graduation, progressively teaching them a range of values, virtues, skills, and careers.
The SOAR Skills 21 programme begins with training teachers to deliver it in schools and to date 87 teachers have been trained in the UAE.
Students engage in their own time with weekly online modules including reading and quizzes that familiarise them with the 21 competencies of Skills 21. In class, as a team, students must strategise to progress and win a game based around fictional heroes and villains without teacher guidance or intervention. Meanwhile, the teacher observes their use of the 21 competencies they’ve learnt, awarding individual students with game points and badges when seen. The teacher will then lead the class in reflecting on the activity and how children can improve.
The programme grows skills unique to each child, with children on average developing 8-12 skills each. By having teachers reward skills based only on demonstrable use in class, it helps students understand what skills come naturally to their character and how to develop strengths and weaknesses.
Over 4,500 students have been taught across nine countries, with plans to expand the programme into more jurisdictions. Operating in the US, Argentina, Kenya, South Africa, Nigeria, India, Malaysia, and Indonesia, as well as the UAE, it’s the first-time gamification has been used to teach a single standardised programme to build soft skills essential for the modern job market across a wide range of cultures, economies and curricula.
Arc Skills’ efforts are designed to help young people adapt to a rapidly changing job market by equipping them with a set of skills that will be relevant no matter how the world of work evolves.
This is crucial as while technological advances are creating new jobs and industries, many existing jobs are increasingly coming under threat by the rise of automation and AI. An Oxford University study found that in the coming years, almost half of all currently existing jobs in the US could be replaced by machines. A study by McKinsey and Company also showed that 45% of jobs in the Middle East are technically automatable today, which could result in the loss of 20.8 million full-time employees and $366.6 billion in wage income.
Mithun Kamath, Group CEO of Arc Skills, said:
“With automation transforming the way we work, it’s crucial that young people today are skilled to work in ways machines cannot with the flexible faculties to move with the pace of change. Our education system cannot be there to produce more robots, but creative, engaged, critically thinking human beings who have the capacity not just to survive in a world of work changing faster than ever before, but thrive in it.
The successes we’ve seen in using gamification to train students in 21st century skills in the UAE gives us the hard evidence we need to expand our programme into other countries where young people are facing similar challenges in a rapidly changing job market.”
A UAE parent said:
'I have seen a change in my child’s behaviour since this programme as she has become more respectful and conscious of what she says and in actions towards others. So it is definitely helping her to think better.'
A UAE student said:
“I learnt a lot about how the real-world works. In school, we don’t know about the real world and how things happen… we learn biology, history, geography. But in Skills 21 we got to experience everything that happens outside.”
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Chief Warrant Officer 2 (CW2) Edward Goodloe entered the U.S. Army-HHC in November 1994.
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Ernest Kanjo / Monday, 18 May 2009 09:37
I would have been Bayen's course mate in the University of Buea if I had showed up the year I got admission into the Department of Journalism and Mass Communication. But throughout our stay in UB (Bayen a year ahead), we shared many things as student journalists. Franklin Sone Bayen, needless to say, is a name that cruises across television, radio and the print media.
Our first joint attempt at doing professional work was going to be The BUN (Buea University Newsletter) in which we were going to have our stories published ahead of the 1995 UB matriculation. A students' uprising that ensued obstructed what was going to be my (not Bayen's) baptism of fire. I remember the then UB student union president telling us part of the funds students were asking for had to be used in the production of that special edition of The BUN. I felt disappointed.
Bayen had however been working for The Post. There was no way he could go for a day without practising journalism, his all-time passion. He would rather miss classes to cover and report a burning story - even the popular political rally at Bangangte that took place at mid semester when lessons were seriously going on. The cover story that almost landed him into trouble with the JMC administration was just one of the bad moments that showed up in his struggle to militate in the art he loves best.
Bayen's journalism continued when he moved over to Yaounde to pursue studies at the Advanced school of Mass Communication (ASMAC). Then, I was informed one morning thatmy friend had been co-opted by one of Yaounde's pioneer private radio stations, radio Television Siantou, today Radio Tiemeni Siantou. I don't remember if he or Forcho Rockhill was the first English-speaking broadcaster to be recruited by Siantou. That same day at midday, Bayen's voice was on the RTS airwaves with the summary of the news in the English language.
Bayen's stay at Siantou was not long. He was fed up with doing news summaries and so quit. That's what he told me, if I can remember. His resignation letter was a recommendation for me and a certain Babila Fogam, today resident in the U.S. Bayen had advised Remy Ngono, the then station manager of RTS to try Ernest or Babila whom he was certain would deliver the goods. Ngono did not have time to receive me, so I left for Buea.
A few weeks later, Bayen came to Buea looking for me. He had found another opening for me at Radio Reine, this time the first private radio station in Yaounde. We affectionately called it The Queen's Radio. Cell phones were scarce, so Bayen missed out on me. Another friend of ours was lucky, was ferried to Yaounde where he joined Bayen on the Radio Reine English desk. Some months later, I joined them. It was not easy to get there (Bayen knows the story) but God had planned I was going to work with the journalism militant.
After a year and a half, I quit unceremoniously. To Bayen, who loved my performance, I was just being scared of work. But in reality, my state of health could not withstand the workload. I had suffered a terrible brain fatigue which crippled me for 11 months. Bayen would stop by regularly to find out if I could return and try. "Only come and deliver, we'll do the writing," he would coax me. He love my presentation and compared it to that of CRTV's Tehwi Lambiv.
Though I never went back to The Queen's Radio, I will not easily forget Bayen's militancy. One day I was doing the 6.30a.m news when the phone rang. The technician beckoned that Bayen was on the line from Buea. I did not remember him going on a news mission. I however cued him and behold, he reported live from the Mungo Bridge where a separatist movement had planned to hoisted a flag. Bayen was queried by hierarchy when he returned to Yaounde. But he was satisfied to have demonstrated professional conscious - "BE THTERE"
One fine afternoon in 2004, Bayen stopped by and told me he was going to the South West region. He did not tell me where exactly he was going to, or what his mission was all about. Upon his return, I learned the Mungo Bridge had collapsed and whatever it took, Bayen had to BE THERE. "It would have been a professional crime if I, Bayen had not gone to see the historic bridge that had given way," he defended himself.
At The Herald, Bayen demonstrated the same militancy. I had quit my second job at Radio Environnement this time. He bothered about me staying around without practising our thing - journalism. Several attempts to get me over to The Herald failed. I kept telling him I was could not do print journalism. I had fallen in love with radio disc jockeying and did not believe I could carve out a captivating headline, let alone a interesting article. But the day he was travelling to Israel for a one-month refresher course, he recommended me to The Herald hierarchy. In his absence, The Herald called up. That is how I got into print journalism.
Then, after staying away from sports reporting for quite some time, Bayen got me back to it through the latest on the newsstands - THIS IS SPORTS, THIS IS FOOTBALL. How can Ernest Kanjo be so blind about his roots? What has become of the football diaries? Well, I'm back, thanks to Bayen. The story of Bayen and Ernest is long. He is my Godfather in our generation. Zackary Nkwo is in the other generation.
I see Bayen everywhere in my professional life. I wish him happy 20th anniversary!
The following interview was conducted by the Quail's Eugene N. Nforngwa, one of Cameroon's most brilliant journalists whom Bayen has admired professionally. Eugene is the Editor/Publisher of the one-year-old newspaper, described as a must-read fine piece of work. The chat with Bayen was first published in the Quail ( This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it ) two weeks ago.
Fired by militancy and inspired by pros
February 27, marked 20 years since his first article was published in a newspaper. Franklin Sone Bayen has been around longer than most journalists of his generation and his record is hard to beat. He has written for nearly every newspaper this country has produced, been on radio and showed up on television. Bayen is one of the country's finest writers.
But he may also be one of the country's most controversial journalists: hated by some, misunderstood by others, controversial all the same.
"Bayen is unsteady and unpredictable. He is here today and before you know it, he is gone," commented one former colleague.
In this first of a two part interview, we revisit Bayen's first steps into journalism.
Interview by Eugene N. Nforngwa
Eugene N. Nforngwa (ENN): Franklin, did you say 20 years in journalism?
Franklin Sone Bayen (FSB): You can simply call it 20 years in the media. Twenty years since I had my first article printed in a newspaper. And in which newspaper? Cameroon Tribune in its booming years in the late 1980s. That was on Friday, February 27, 1989.
I always proudly say the only veritable national newspaper at the time found space to print the article of a secondary school boy in GHS Limbe. And to tell you the truth, that article was published entirely as I had written it. About the only change the editor inputted was the title. My title was "A Fire is Burning". The editor used my closing sentence to cut a new title: "Let the Fire Keep Burning".
Reading the article today, there are phrases I'd write more neatly now, but I was just a schoolboy then and it could already be that good. I was saluting a revival of the Indomitable Lions after a series of lacklustre performances. Incidentally, that match in Libreville, was the first time an Anglophone, Stephen Tataw, was captain of the national team.
I wrote a couple more articles on politics, not counting regular letters to the editor, before the wind of change blew Cameroon Tribune out of relevance for a while.
Where did these initial steps take you over the past 20 years?
After mere contributions to newspapers (Cameroon Post and The Herald), I worked for Cameroon Post, missed pioneering The Post by one or two editions because I was out of town, moved to Yaounde and worked for Radio Siantou and Radio Reine, joined the editorial team of The Herald and then took up the task of building a new editorial team for New TV.
I've also worked or am currently working or collaborating with international media like RFI, radio Vatican, the German News Agency (Deutsche Presse Agentur), the South African Broadcasting Corporation (SABC) and VOA where I did a stint at the headquarters in Washington DC in 2006 after working at the Seattle Post-Intelligencer as an Alfred Friendly Fellow. I've also contributed to the Jerusalem Post.
I was'also editor of Weekly Post, an editorial consultant with The Guardian Post and have been collaborating with the Quail.
ENN: You started writing as a schoolboy. What attracted you to journalism?
FSB: It was perhaps the soldier attitude of journalists working under difficult conditions just to bring out the story for public consumption that might have attracted me the most.
But, I think it all came from home. My dad bought Newsweek and Time magazines. My elder brothers discussed international politics, American politics, British politics, Arab-Israeli politics, African politics. I was thus exposed early to good journalism.
Also, right at the corner from home in Clerks Quarters, Down Beach in Victoria, was the office of Cameroon Outlook, where I saw the famous Ako-Aya (Tataw Obenson) going about his newspaper business, before he died in 1979. Cameroon Times was just across the road from my nursery school near the Community Field in Victoria. In fact, I grew up bypassing journalists along Nambeke Street, which in the 1970s and 80s, was called Cameroon's Fleet Street (like in London) for the number of newspapers that sprouted, crumbled and resurfaced there.
Charlie Ndi Chia, Chief Bisong Etahoben, Paddy Mbawa, Paul Nkemayang, the late Emmanuel Mbaku were journalism stars in the neighbourhood. Nkemayang's The Star newspaper is the only survivor there now, holding the forte for that piece of our history.
However, my first brush with journalism was during an open air live broadcast by Radio Buea in Limbe. Peterson Yuh was station manager. Mary Camara was the prime mover at the show. Bernard Eko, then in his debut, reported for the 3pm news "live from the banks of the River Limbe". I'm quoting his signoff that day. The news was read from Yaounde by Johnny MacViban, the golden voice on the news at the time. I remember the audience applauding portions of the news because of the way he articulated.
Part of the show that day was a news casting competition. I was in form three. My challengers were all adults, yet I won the second prize.
However, it is my outing in Cameroon Tribune and subsequent articles in Cameroon Post and The Herald that I consider my real feel of the profession before I read journalism at the University of Buea.
Even that was after I had resisted calls by the friend of my mentor, Barrister Tanjong Ashuntantang, to go read journalism in Nigeria just after O' level. With JAMB that was possible.
That friend, a Cameroonian reading journalism in Nigeria, was doing his internship with Cameroon Tribune. He had come to Limbe to interview then Mayor Daniel Matute. He might have spotted the journalism gem in me or maybe my mentor told him, but he repeatedly urged Ashuntantang to have me send my documents to him in Nigeria. He would do the rest and have me enrolled. I considered other things and stayed in high school. That goodwill person, a certain Kange Williams Wassaloko, was later to be my classmate in UB. I never reminded him. This testimony is certainly a surprise to him.
I must add that when I wasn't contributing articles to Cameroon Tribune, I was typing my "home newspaper" on typewriters bought for my sisters. Journalism was simply bursting out of me, all ways. Journalism chose me. I didn't choose it.
ENN: Big dreams for journalism, admiring so many people in Radio Cameroon, CRTV. Your ambitions did not target CRTV?
FSB: Ask someone else that story. CRTV denied me in a dramatic way in 1999. Well, CRTV might have been the place for broadcasting. Today it is just some place among others, perhaps less attractive than before. That doesn't mean I never desired a CRTV job. Who knows, I may still do.
My chance came in November 1999 during the recruitment for Mount Cameroon FM in Buea. The test was done in two phases. I was third in the written test out of over a thousand candidates. It emerged that I was behind the first and second by less than a full point. In the auditioning test that followed, I'm told my name was seen at the top of the mark sheet following what looked like a good studio performance. When the results came out, my name was missing.
My studio performance must have been awful for me to have dropped from so high up the list to nowhere. Those who know me can better say if I'm such a bad broadcaster.
Saying this may sound like I'm a sore loser, especially seeing the products of that batch: bright, outstanding fellows like George Esunge Fominyen, Akara Ticha, Mabi Azefor (now epouse Fominyen), Esther Kima, Simon Lyonga, Albert Njie Mbonde, Elvis Mbimba, Blaise Testalin Nana. They are about the best guys in CRTV today.
ENN: With such bright seeds, how dare I say I was cheated for them to be recruited, right?
FSB: How dare I imply that I'm better than them? But what about me being just as good as them? Or what about me being better than all of them? Fact is my name disappeared though many good names remained.
You often say you are a militant of the media. What does this mean?
Militant of journalism you mean. I believe in the profession. For me it's a vocation. A lot of us say so, but it is truer for some than for others.
I do journalism to promote journalism because when done well, it is a good cause for the plight of society. We call it a noble profession. I support and defend journalists (genuine ones, of course). Yet I don't spare the rod when it becomes necessary to rebuke offending colleagues as some of them also point out my own weak points. I do so because no one but ourselves can best regulate our work. Anyone else doing so is an oppressor.
I can sacrifice my self-esteem and comfort for the good of the profession. And even when I found better opportunities, I've remained a journalist. You know that.
I won't do anything to endanger a media organ even if it hasn't been kind to me, even if for others, its downfall would be their consolation.
You know the scourge earth policy. You need to hear this story: not long after I obtained my newspaper licence in 1999, a group of colleagues approached me, fuming with disenchantment after a meeting. Their "common initiative group" newspaper was being confiscated by one of them. They had to do something about it. Their solution was to crumble the "CIG" paper by quitting en mass to start a new one. They had to take quick action. You know coups plots often have to be executed summarily, lest they leak. So they needed a ready-for-use newspaper licence to hit the newsstands within the next 24 hours, which none of them had at the time. They wanted me to bring mine to the battle. I understood their cause, but I weighed the odds. I saw the existence of a thriving newspaper on the line. There were not many at the time and, I thought to myself, we shouldn't kill one without being sure another would survive? I put journalism first, and begged the "guerrilla group" to spare me the trouble. I'm proud to have allowed that newspaper to live on to this day, although staff and partner complaints persist.
And to add: you and Clovis and I are working on a project that could revolutionise our media landscape. It's militancy for journalism that drives me into this project. I think it is that same militancy that fires you and Clovis on. I think you guys are also militants of journalism. Aren't you?
ENN: Well, granted. So your schoolboy article was published in February 1989, why are you coming out only now with news of your anniversary?
FSB: Find out why! Hahahah! Well, on a serious note, I wanted to do a memoir on my first 20 years around the media. A publishing house in Europe already admitted my proposal mid-last year and wanted to see my draft. But I became reluctant. I haven't even had a satisfactory chance to bring out my full potentials. And there's 30 to celebrate, God willing.
I began changing my mind from talking about myself. I'd rather do a book addressing professional and social problems. So I stayed quiet, discussing it only in private until you made me say it here in public, for which I thank you all the same.
ENN: 20 years after, are you already thinking of retirement or moving on to something else?
FSB: Go on retirement before I'm 40, Eugene? Even the nouveau riche in north America go on early retirement only after 40. I'm not yet 40. I don't yet know riches. I'm still toiling and I'm still a militant of journalism.
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Radicalized, Part 3: Remembering Nat Hentoff, The Itinerant Subversive
PHOTO: NANCY KASZERMAN/ZUMA PRESS
With each passing day, I keep thinking of Nat Hentoff, who died two weeks ago.
I keep thinking Nat would know what to write…
Onstage the a few nights ago at Symphony Space, emceeing a “Musicians Against Fascism” concert, I invoked Nat’s legacy and felt his presence through a sense of purpose that linked ideas, action and music.
Here’s how I began my own remembrance of Nat at The Daily Beast:
The death of Nat Hentoff at 91 on Jan. 7 was, to me, one final act of defiance.
According to his son Nicholas, Hentoff left us in the company of that which he loved dearly—surrounded by family, listening to Billie Holiday recordings.
And I suppose that Hentoff, who wrote with as much passion and insight about the Constitution as he did about Holiday’s music, simply refused to stick around to see Donald Trump take the presidential oath of office.
I imagined Hentoff whispering something like: “I fought against the Vietnam War. I spoke out during the Reagan administration, against George W. Bush’s Iraq invasion, and in defense of true liberalism and the Bill of Rights. This fight is yours.”
As an author, journalist, jazz critic, and civil libertarian, Hentoff’s intensity was matched by his productivity and range. He inspired me early on through his voluminous essays and books. And I was lucky. I got to know the man, who, by then, had a weathered face bordered by greying hair and beard, his piercing eyes softened only by his easy smile.
And here’s a 2004 interview I did with Nat for Wax Poetics:
Here’s the pull-quote I’d use now:
“I was an itinerant subversive from the start.”
Some of the references are dated but Nat’s messages—about music, cultural identity, fundamentalism, and the Supreme Court—are timely as ever.
Continue reading “Radicalized, Part 3: Remembering Nat Hentoff, The Itinerant Subversive”
Radicalized, Part 2: Musicians Against Fascism
Arturo O’Farrill addresses the crowd at a Musicians Against Fascism concert/ photo by Scott Friedlander
On the flight home from Havana last month after the Jazz Plaza Festival, pianist Arturo O’Farrill and I talked about the country to which we were returning.
Donald Trump would soon take the oath of office as president. We each felt uneasy (scared , really), not to mention indignant and insulted. We both also felt motivated—to speak up more forcefully and with greater focus about what we believed in, and to try to strenghten our sense of community with musicians, writers, thinkers and the decent people who read and listen and care.
O’Farrill called me up the next day. He was putting together a concert a Manhattan’s Symphony Space, he said, scheduled for the night before the presidential inauguration, under the banner, “Musicians Against Fascism.”
“Anything I can do to support this?” I asked.
“Yeah, you can emcee.”
I told him that I’d certainly write about the concert, and that maybe I could step up and say a few words. We talked a bit more and then hung up.
I called right back. “Of course I can emcee. I should do it. I’ll do it.”
I’ve been political on the page for at least a decade, writing about, among other things: jazz and American identity; the relationship between the U.S. and Cuba; about indignity, rights and the promise of culture in New Orleans after Hurrican Katrina, and about Islam as heard through music after 9/11.
I’ve spoken truth to power in public at panel discussions and conferences. It seemed high time to quite literally step up and speak out.
It was good to do. I wanted and needed to do it. I’d do it again. I will do it again.
You can stream the whole thing here.
Continue reading “Radicalized, Part 2: Musicians Against Fascism”
Bohemian Trio Leaps Across Borders
Bohemian Trio: from left, Yosvany Terry, Yves Dharamraj and Orlando Alonso. PHOTO: LAURA RAZZANO
In the midst of Havana’s Jazz Plaza festival in December, I took a break with Yosvany Terry, who has lived in New York City since 1999 and whose music helps define a cutting edge there. He grew up in the Camagüey province, where his father, Eladio “Don Pancho” Terry, was a violinist with Maravilla de Florida’s Charanga Orchestra and a master of the chekeré, the beaded gourd used for percussion. Yosvany and I drove to Havana’s Mariano neighborhood, a quiet, almost rural area where his father and mother now live. There, Don Pancho sang old boleros while Yosvany played piano. Don Pancho demonstrated the “ritmo guiro,” an innovation of his that lent a more folkloric flavor to the charanga sound by the highlighting the raspy sound of the guiro, a serrated gourd that is scraped with a stick. “All of this music,” Yosvany said, “has influenced my music.”
And much more, not to mention Terry’s work with saxophonist Steve Coleman.
Bohemian Trio, Terry’s latest endeavor, is a collective with pianist Orlando Alonso and cellist Yves Dharamraj, in which Terry plays soprano and alto saxophone and chekeré.
Here’s my Wall Street Journal review of the group’s genre-defying debut CD, “Okónkolo.” Continue reading “Bohemian Trio Leaps Across Borders”
Radicalized, Part One: Resist Trump—Inaugurate Something Better With Me, Arturo O'Farrill & Many Great Musicians at Symphony Space on Jan. 19!
photo by David Garten
When pianist and composer Arturo O’Farrill (pictured above) asked me to help mount an event at Manhattan’s Symphony Space on Jan. 19—the night before the presidential inauguration—to express resistance to all that the coming Trump administration represents, and to help build community along those lines I said yes first and asked questions later.
“Musicians Against Fascism“—the banner here is “No, We Refuse to Accept a Fascist America!”—will feature a dazzling lineup of artists, along with O’Farrill: I’m told the list thus far includes: Vijay Iyer, Matthew Shipp, Jen Shyu, Claudia Acuña, Fabian Almazan, Lakecia Benjamin, Stephan Crump, Peter Evans, Mary Halvorson, Amirtha Kidambi, Rudresh Mahanthappa, Roy Nathanson and the jazz passengers, Arturo O’Farrill, Somi, The Westerlies. More surprises to come, I’m sure.
I’ll be up there, helping direct traffic as well as trying to inspire positive action and incite resistance against the many ways in which a Trump presidency threatens all that I write about and believe in—honesty, decency, humanity, responsibility, democracy, and, yes, artistry of the type that will be on display.
I will not watch what goes on in Washington, DC on Jan. 20, when Donald Trump lays his hand (which may or may no be unnaturally small) on a Bible. Much that is unnatural and unholy should flow from that moment.
Jan. 19 is OUR inauguration. Each of us can determine what we will individually inaugurate—what we will swear to uphold and protect, and how.
Let’s gather to begin building community and a common sense of resistance and commitment.
And if that F-word scares you, it should. This is a benefit for #RefuseFascism.org, and, well, I thought twice about that word, too. But what’s promised by this new administration—what’s already in process befits the term. And it should scare you.
Spread the word. Show up.
http://www.symphonyspace.org/event/9581/Music/no-we-refuse-to-accept-a-fascist-america
Tickets: $30.00 (For those who cannot afford a ticket, 15 minutes prior to the concert, any unsold tickets will be made available on a pay-what-you-can basis.)
Back From Cuba: In and Around Havana's Jazz Plaza Festival
Trumpeters Jesús Ricardo and Adam O’Farrill play during a reception at the U.S. ambassadorial residence in Havana the night before the opening of the Jazz Plaza festival. Photo by David Garten
In November, I ended a four-part conversation-and-music series at the National Jazz Museum in Harlem titled, “NYC: The Afro-Cuban Beat.”
My animating ideas were that to cover great music in New York City means, as much or more now than ever, listening closely to Cuban musicians who live here and to many other musicians who mine Afro-Cuban traditions—and that these rhythms, of hand drums and folklore and dance, course underneath the current New York City jazz scene as surely as the subway courses beneath the city.
Sometimes, my editors ask me why I write so much about Cuban musicians and Afro-Cuban music.
There are the obvious answers: Great music and superior musicianship, period.
Yet also, and more importantly, I’ve worked hard to unravel storylines that say: This is not exotic. There is no “Latin jazz” if there ever was. There is a long and deep cultural history that glues together an entire hemisphere and is still both largely untold and developing new chapters. The section of that story involving the U.S. and Cuba is yet more fascinating (though also disturbing) for its strange and estranged politics, which make it good to write about, and a good metaphor for politics of exclusion and the cultural truths of inclusion.
Also, Cuba (like New Orleans) is one great example of the African root of nearly all music from this hemisphere.
That’s a very long way of saying: My recent trip to Havana woke me up and taught me more. Here’s how I began my piece in The Daily Beast. Continue reading “Back From Cuba: In and Around Havana's Jazz Plaza Festival”
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Story of a border city during the Civil War
66 A Border City in the Civil War
though at the beginning of the contest subordinate
in military rank is Captain, afterwards Brigadier-
General, Nathaniel Lyon. He was a native of Connecti-
cut, and a graduate of West Point. He had served
with distinction in Florida, and in the Mexican War,
brilliantly as an Indian fighter in northern California,
and with moderation and wisdom in Kansas, when that
territory was harassed by the lawless incursions of
border ruffians. He was forty-two years old, just in
his prime. He was only five feet seven inches in height.
He was thin and angular, rough and rugged in appear-
ance. He had deep-set, clear blue eyes, sandy hair and
reddish-brown stubby beard. What he was in mind and
heart, unfolding events soon clearly revealed. He
reported for duty at the Arsenal about February 2d.
He at once made himself familiar with its history.
He learned that Major William H. Bell, by birth a North
Carolinian, a graduate of West Point in 1820, had been
its commander for several years; that the major, aside
from his duties as an officer of the United States army,
had amased quite a fortune in our city in town lots
and suburban property, and had come to regard St.
Louis as his home; that his sympathies had been with
the extreme pro-slavery men of Missouri; that in Janu-
ary he had pledged himself to General Frost that while
he would defend the Arsenal against all mobs, he would
not defend it against State troops; that as late as Jan.
24th, Frost had witten this to Governor Jackson, at
the ame time claiing that Bell was in accord with
them; that on the same day, to the honor of the military
service of the United States, Bell had been removed
from his command and ordered to report at New York;
that he had refused to obey this order, and, instead,
had ad the good sense to resign his commission
Title Story of a border city during the Civil War
Author Anderson, Galusha, 1832-1918
Source viii p., 2 leaves, 385 p. front., plates, ports., facsim. 22 cm.
Boston, Little, Brown, and Company, 1908
Description 66 A Border City in the Civil War though at the beginning of the contest subordinate in military rank is Captain, afterwards Brigadier- General, Nathaniel Lyon. He was a native of Connecti- cut, and a graduate of West Point. He had served with distinction in Florida, and in the Mexican War, brilliantly as an Indian fighter in northern California, and with moderation and wisdom in Kansas, when that territory was harassed by the lawless incursions of border ruffians. He was forty-two years old, just in his prime. He was only five feet seven inches in height. He was thin and angular, rough and rugged in appear- ance. He had deep-set, clear blue eyes, sandy hair and reddish-brown stubby beard. What he was in mind and heart, unfolding events soon clearly revealed. He reported for duty at the Arsenal about February 2d. He at once made himself familiar with its history. He learned that Major William H. Bell, by birth a North Carolinian, a graduate of West Point in 1820, had been its commander for several years; that the major, aside from his duties as an officer of the United States army, had amased quite a fortune in our city in town lots and suburban property, and had come to regard St. Louis as his home; that his sympathies had been with the extreme pro-slavery men of Missouri; that in Janu- ary he had pledged himself to General Frost that while he would defend the Arsenal against all mobs, he would not defend it against State troops; that as late as Jan. 24th, Frost had witten this to Governor Jackson, at the ame time claiing that Bell was in accord with them; that on the same day, to the honor of the military service of the United States, Bell had been removed from his command and ordered to report at New York; that he had refused to obey this order, and, instead, had ad the good sense to resign his commission
Source The Story of a Border City During the Civil War
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I St. Louis
II Forebodings of Conflict
III Rumblings of the Conflict
IV The Boomerang Convention
V The Fight for the Arsenal
VI Camp Jackson
VII Riot, Panic, Search and Conflict
VIII The Pulpit and the Press
IX Decision and Division
X Bitterness
XI Slaves and Slave-pens
XII Prisons and Prisoners
XIII Lyon in Conference and in Campaign
XIV Fremont and Fiasco
XV Extraordinary Acts
XVI Halleck and His Manifestoes
XVII Refugees
XVIII Difficult Currency
XIX Not Peace But the Sword
XX Charcoals and Claybanks
XXI Homes and Hospitals
XXII The Mississippi Valley Sanitary Fair
XXIII A Dark Plot Thwarted
XXIV Negro Schools
XXV After Darkness Light
XXVI Radicals in Convention
XXVII The Wind-up
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The Union cause in St. Louis in 1861, an historical sketch
200 The Union Cause in St. Louis in 1861.
to the Union, therefore they seek aid for the equipment and uni-
forming of their men from parties outside, trusting to share in the
liberality shown to Union troops in other States. They promise
"to strain every nerve to uphold the authority of our Federal Gov-
ernment in this remote and important post of the great West, etc."
"Governor Gustavus Koerner of Belleville, Illinois, has kindly
consented to act for us as receiver and disburser, and patriotic men
in New York, Philadelphia and Boston were asked to act as col-
lectors." Many patriotic responses were made to this appeal, the
collections amounting to over $30,000. The armed organization of
ST. LOUIS HOME GUARD OR
UNITED STATES RESERVE CORPS, MO. VOLUNTEERS,
whose first Regiments were sworn in May 7, took no part in this
petition or its results, as they lived at their family homes and pro-
vided for their own wants; their organization differed materially
from that of the Volunteers and deserves special notice.
As usual in times of public commotion, the young men and those
who had no immediate family obligations first entered the Volun-
teer service. But the news from the South, even from the Border
States, went from bad to worse. With a Legislature and police ad-
ministration hostile to the Union and a militia organization under
the control of the Secessionists, even the rapidly filling Volunteer
organizations were not deemed to be a guarantee for the safety of
the city. These threatening conditions induced a number of citi-
zens to organize as near as possible among neighbors a military body
of men for the protection of the home and family, for the free
exercise of the franchise and the supremacy of the Union. The
leading idea was to make this body strong enough in numbers to
prevent even the chance of a fight within the limits of the city.
For this purpose Anselm Albert,Robert J. and Roderick E. Rom-
bauer of the First Ward met early in January to form such an
organization. As all three had taken part in the war of 1848 in
Hungary, they knew the value of an early movement. The start
for getting the list headed by native citizens was not encouraging:
among others a prominent jurist remarked: "When it comes to
a fight I will take my revolver and step into the street." A couple
months later, the same party joined a Reserve Regiment. After
this the movement was followed up in the First Ward of St. Louis,
Title The Union cause in St. Louis in 1861, an historical sketch
Author Rombauer, Robert J. (Robert Julius), 1830-1925
United States -- History -- Civil War, 1861-1865 -- Regimental histories
Missouri -- Militia
Source 475 p. : front., illus. (maps, plans) pl., ports. ; 24 cm.
St. Louis, Mo. : Press of Nixon-Jones prtg. co., 1909
Description 200 The Union Cause in St. Louis in 1861. to the Union, therefore they seek aid for the equipment and uni- forming of their men from parties outside, trusting to share in the liberality shown to Union troops in other States. They promise "to strain every nerve to uphold the authority of our Federal Gov- ernment in this remote and important post of the great West, etc." "Governor Gustavus Koerner of Belleville, Illinois, has kindly consented to act for us as receiver and disburser, and patriotic men in New York, Philadelphia and Boston were asked to act as col- lectors." Many patriotic responses were made to this appeal, the collections amounting to over $30,000. The armed organization of the ST. LOUIS HOME GUARD OR UNITED STATES RESERVE CORPS, MO. VOLUNTEERS, whose first Regiments were sworn in May 7, took no part in this petition or its results, as they lived at their family homes and pro- vided for their own wants; their organization differed materially from that of the Volunteers and deserves special notice. As usual in times of public commotion, the young men and those who had no immediate family obligations first entered the Volun- teer service. But the news from the South, even from the Border States, went from bad to worse. With a Legislature and police ad- ministration hostile to the Union and a militia organization under the control of the Secessionists, even the rapidly filling Volunteer organizations were not deemed to be a guarantee for the safety of the city. These threatening conditions induced a number of citi- zens to organize as near as possible among neighbors a military body of men for the protection of the home and family, for the free exercise of the franchise and the supremacy of the Union. The leading idea was to make this body strong enough in numbers to prevent even the chance of a fight within the limits of the city. For this purpose Anselm Albert,Robert J. and Roderick E. Rom- bauer of the First Ward met early in January to form such an organization. As all three had taken part in the war of 1848 in Hungary, they knew the value of an early movement. The start for getting the list headed by native citizens was not encouraging: among others a prominent jurist remarked: "When it comes to a fight I will take my revolver and step into the street." A couple months later, the same party joined a Reserve Regiment. After this the movement was followed up in the First Ward of St. Louis,
Source The Union Cause in St. Louis in 1861
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Page xiv
Page xv
Page xvi
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- Page xiii
- Page xiv
- Page xv
- Page xvi
Chapter I Introduction
Chapter II The People of St. Louis
Chapter III Union Politics
Chapter IV Missouri Events
Chapter V The Approaching Storm
Chapter VI The War Commences
Chapter VII Organization
Chapter VIII The War in Missouri
Chapter IX Lyon in Command
Chapter X The Southwest
Chapter XI John C. Freemont
Chapter XII The Battle of Wilson's Creek
Part II The First Union Regiments
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Trekking in Langtang: To Conquer the Unconquered — or To Let It Be?
November 30, 2017 Leave a Comment Written by Nepal Reporting Team
It was the sixth day of trekking – I had been walking in the Langtang mountains, seemingly in the middle of nowhere for six hours, tired and hungry. Narrow, muddy paths meandered across the endless mountains and mist; the valley was so quiet as if nobody had ever been here. I had no idea what was waiting for me – maybe another meal of curried potatoes, a meal that we had had every day since we were in the mountains. If I could survive till we arrived…My mind started wandering…
The third highest peak of Langtang, Gengo Lirung.
Photo: Katherina Tse
Ever since the innovation of aircraft and automobiles, urban inhabitants seem to have had the illusion that they can conquer lofty mountains and dense jungle by modern transportation and development.
Partly, it is true: According to Xinhua Net, a mainstream Chinese media outlet, China had built 82,000 kilometers highway in Tibet, making natural Himalayan resources accessible to citizens and bringing more than 20 million tourists in 2015. Yet, as a Chinese who lives in a metropolis of southern China, it was not until wrapping up an eight-day-trek in Langtang National Park – the first Himalayan national park in Nepal, setting off from Syabrubesi, reaching the highest spot of 4610m, and visiting the sacred lake, Gosaikunda, that I had a stronger dissenting opinion: Nature in some places remains unconquered, due to its complexity and, in the Himalaya, its sheer wildness. And some parts should remain unconquered by human beings, even if they could be:If those parts were altered by humans, not only would biodiversity be destroyed, but the very resources we depend on for things like development would simply disappear.
With an area of 1710 square kilometers, Langtang National Park is a famous Himalayan trekking destination near Kathmandu, offering varied natural scenery, from snow summits to lush temperate river valleys and ancient jungle — a jungle where one of the national treasures of Nepal – the red panda — lives.
Our group consisted of six journalism students and two teachers, and we trekked from altitudes of 1340m to 4610m while talking to and interviewing people of the local Tamang ethnicity and other minority groups. The journalistic focus of our trek — covering Nepal’s entrance into China’s “One Belt, One Road” initiative, and how OBOR projects were likely to affect Langtang — differentiated it from that of most others.
Nature sees us all equal – she didn’t distinguish between giving us the mysterious beauty of snow-covered mountains, or sending a bunch of leeches out to suck our blood on the muddy road. I still remember the first time I witnessed two leeches wriggling and sticking to my right foot, with more were creeping up my boots – I screamed and begged one guide to take me out of that place as soon as possible. But that’s another story…
Nevertheless, bearing our journalistic duty in mind, we managed to see the recent effects of development on both environment and people on our journey. Before the formal trek, we first took a quick drive to the Rasuwagadhi-Jilong border – the only open land crossing between the two countries. Driving on the muddiest narrow road that I have ever seen in my life… squeezing past trucks on a one-lane road while looking at 1000 foot drops, and spending 13 hours on bumping up and down like a roller coaster for 134km on a rubble-and-mire-filled ‘highway’… From Kathmandu to the Chinese border, we saw a lot of new development: hydropower projects to supply local electricity (a lot of villagers there are still using solar power only) and a few international tourists crossing the border (a new policy that had just come into play about ten days previously).
On the first day of the trek, I felt uneasiness about what would be physically required of me over the course of the day – setting off from Syabrubesi to Thulo Syabru, climbing in altitude approximately 1,000m in five hours. Although everybody seemed to be happy to step ‘out of the office’ and into the woods, by the time we arrived at Thulo Syabru, we were all starving and couldn’t help buying a ‘luxury’ drink – Coca Cola, as a reward to ourselves, even though it cost 250 rupees (roughly 17 RMB) for one at the first house we saw in this roadless village.
Although it has been two years, the scars of the 2015 earthquake can still be seen in Thulo Syabru and all along our trekking route. In Thulo Syabru, some houses were still under construction; some people were still living in dilapidated buildings or temporary houses – not only residents’ houses were destroyed, but also their income has been reduced due to the drop-off in tourism after the quake. Without a drivable road, this village and all the villages we were going to visit up in the mountains depended on tourists and small-scale farming to make a living.
It is commonly believed that the view of Gosaikunda (4380m) is the most stunning one on the trek, however, in Lauribina(3950m), I saw Langtang Lirung – the highest, most spectacular snow peak of Langtang. The night was cold and it rained heavily; I curled up in a sleeping bag near an extinguished stove, half awake and half asleep, thinking about what we were going to do if we could not set off tomorrow, or if we encountered a landslide. Then the next morning, a panoramic mountain view under the clear azure sky spread out before my eyes.
The view of Langtang Lirung, shot at Lauribina.
Luck smiled on our expedition again on the night we spent in Gosaikunda – it snowed, just enough, but not too much. The hill top above Gosaikunda and Bhairavkunda was powdered with snow, while the foot of the hill revealed the actual season by staying green. “Every few steps is a different view,” said my friend Binod. Since the snow was thin, reaching the highest point, the pass of Suryakunda (4610m), you could still see black rocks and grass beneath the snowflakes.
Snow covered Suryakunda.
In addition to the spectacular views in Langtang, the lodges themselves are as attractive as the snow mountains because of the people there. We stayed in eight villages, and the smallest village had only three residents. Lodges in the remote mountains not only provide an opportunity to stay away from social media and social anxiety, but also to talk to interesting strangers. There were trekkers and Nepalis from all walks of life, including students, former military officers, hotel owners, and others. At Gosaikunda, we even met a three-legged dog sitting by the stove; the dog had followed a group of Israeli trekkers from Dhunche, which was at least 50km away. We talked to one Israeli who told a story about her brother encountering the 2015 Nepal earthquake, a hotel owner concerned about being forced out of the lodge he’d run for 22 years due to the government opening up lodges management rights to the highest bidder, and other people you might have missed if Internet and social media had been accessible. Trekking on our own two feet had brought different kinds of people together; facing similar difficulties and experiences made the conversations happen.
A few months later, and I was back in civilization…Reflecting back on the trek, it made me think of the Tower of Babel, a myth that tells of a united humanity that falls apart into different languages. Human beings are always trying to explore or conquer the world via technology and competition. We assume that nature is incompatible with modernization and human aspiration. Through the whole evolutionary history of mankind, we are changing and conquering the unknown. However, trekking tells me a different story; there is always an unknown that cannot be conquered: Nature itself. And the most efficient way to deal with her is to respect and to communicate with her. Will there, ultimately, be a settlement, a deal made between these tensions, in which human progress and nature coexist through sustainable development?
If so, the high Himalaya of Nepal might be a place where the natural side of the compromise gets the better part of the bargain.
(By Katherina Tse)
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Naas travelled down to Cork to face Highfield in their latest game of the current Energia All-Ireland League last Saturday afternoon. This was always going to be a stern test for Naas as their rivals are the early pacesetters of the league, and have impressed many with their performances to date. In the end it turned out be a heavy defeat for Naas. However it must be said that in most facets of play there was very little between the sides, the big difference being that Highfield had a weapon – their driving maul – which they used effectively and ruthlessly, and which Naas could not contain.
Eager to put the earlier World Cup disappointment behind them a large crowd turned up for this fixture which was played on a glorious Autumn afternoon, and it was Naas who registered the first score. It came on eight minutes and followed good carries by Conor Doyle and Peter King, which led to Highfield being penalised for hands in the ruck. From in front of the posts Bryan Croke tapped over the penalty to put Naas three points in front.
Highfield quickly responded. They won a penalty on half-way and dispatched this into touch. From the line-out they went through a series of phases largely consisting of pick and goes from the base of rucks. Naas defended these well but finally they could not stop James Cronin from forcing his way over for a try which Shane O’Riordan converted. They had a chance to extend this lead on 21 minutes when they were awarded a penalty in front of the posts. They surprised a few away supporters by turning down the shot at goal and kicking into the corner. This suprise was compounded when they failed to gather the line-out and Gary Kavanagh was able to clear the ball for Naas. However subsequent events showed why Highfield elected for this option and they were not to be so tardy again.
Naas struck with a great try on 34 minutes. From a scrum on half-way they attacked on the blind side and Bryan Croke sliced through the Highfield defence and took play up to five metres from the try line. Naas quickly recycled the ball and although their next couple of attempts to score were stopped, finally David Benn was able to pick from the base of a ruck and drive over for the try. Croke converted and Naas led 10-7.
Straight from the kick-off Highfield won a penalty for a side entry at a ruck. This penalty was again dispatched into the corner, and this time the line-out was safely secured. This allowed them to set up a driving maul and they drove Naas right back before Dan Healy crashed over for the try. O’Riordan converted to put Highfield 14-10 up and this proved to be the interval score.
Within two minutes of the restart Naas had fallen 11 points behind. An attemped clearance went out on the full giving Highfield a line-out 35 metres out. From this they again set up the driving maul and were able march all the way up the pitch before Cronin was hand to score his second try with O’Riordan adding the conversion. Almost immediately things got worse for Naas. Their restart did not the permitted ten metres and from the subsequent scrum Highfield kicked deep forcing Naas right back on their own line. Gary Kavanagh attempted to kick clear but Luke Kingston was able to block down his attempt and won the race to touch down for another try. Although O’Riordan missed the conversion Highfield now led 26-10.
To their credit Naas responded and really took the game to their hosts and were rewarded after 50 minutes. A great carry by Adam Coyle put Naas on the front foot, the ball was quickly recycled and moved smartly out the back line where Matt Stapleton was on hand to squeeze in at the corner to score. From right out on the touchline Bryan Croke kicked a great conversion and when the same player was successful with a penalty attempt on 59 minutes the gap was back to six points and the contest was back on.
Unfortunately that was as good as it got for Naas, with the home side finishing strongly, adding another two tries which both came again from driving mauls. On 69 minutes lock forward Fintan O’Sullivan was on hand to finish off the move, while in the very final minute James Cronin capped off a fine performance to score his third try of the afternoon. Capped three times for Ireland and with no less than 114 appearances for Munster, Cronin certainly looked a class act and was a big asset to Highfield here. With O'Riordan adding another conversion it left the final score at 36-20 in favour of the Corkmen.
Although this was a very third successive defeat for Naas there was plenty of positives to be taken from this performance. Granted they were well beaten in the end but they competed in most areas well with the league leaders, and there was signs that this rebulding process for them is beginning to take shape. Next up for Naas is a home fixture against Malone on Saturday week, November 2nd. Kick-off is at 2.30pm and all support will be greatly appreciated.
Highfield: Sam Burns, Colin O’Neill, Luke Kingston, Mark Dorgan, Paul Stack, Shane O’Riordan, Chris Bannon, James Cronin, Dan Healy, Timmy Ryan, Eoin Keating, Fintan O’Sullivan, Dave O’Connell, Cathal Gallagher, Miah Cronin. Replacements:Michael Shinkin, Ciaran McHugh, Eddie Earle, Brian O’Hea, Gavin O’Leary.
Naas: Bryan Croke, Matt Stapleton, Ben Swindlehurst, James Hawkey, Eoin Walsh, Mark Sutton, Gary Kavanagh, Conor Doyle, Graham Reynolds, Peter King, Paul Monahan, David Benn, Johnny Holmes, Ruadhan McDonnell, Ryan Casey.Replacements: Adam Coyle, Conor McCormack, Tom Brady, Craig Adams, Rob Campbell.
Other Naas RFC Results this weekend:
J1: Naas 11. Old Wesley 39.
J2: Naas 22. Greystones 32.
Under-20s: Naas 52. Malahide 26.
Under-18s: Naas 34. Portarlington 8.
Under-17s: Naas 37. Seapoint 7.
Under-16s: Naas 29. Dundalk 12.
Under-13s: Naas 52. Roscrea 5.
Womens: Naas 1st 38. Clontarf 12.
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Our Walk Along the Camino de Santiago
This blog describes our walk along the Camino de Santiago (a.k.a. Camino Frances and GR65) in September and October 2016. We hiked 800 km from St. Jean-Pied-de-Port, France to Santiago de Compostela, Spain over 35 days. It was a wonderful experience that changed the course of our lives. For those of you interested in hiking the trail, we have included a description and review of the clothes and gear we took with us. Thank you for reading, and we hope you enjoy!
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Post Camino Reflections
We have now been home back in Canada for almost a month. Home is wonderful, relaxing and welcoming for about two or three days. Then one night you wake up thinking (hoping?) you are still in an albergue, or your body becomes frustrated by sitting at a desk rather than hiking 20, 30 or 40 kms at a day and you begin to look up long distance hiking trails around the world and you realize (in the words of Robert Service) "you've become the worst of the worst" and you're hooked. You are a Camino addict and you begin the plan for next year's trek two weeks after having finished the "impossible task" of hiking 800 km. So here we are, and we have begun looking at a range of possibilities including the Camino Norte, the Portuguese Camino, or one of the routes through Frances (Le Puy and Arles are the front runners). However, with all of our planning and wishful thinking aside we also realized that we had some post Camino advice to pass along to anyone about to head off on their adventure.
In terms of practical advice a few points stood out for us:
(1) The trains in Paris and France are listed by the time they leave and by their station of origin and final destination. Upon arrival to Paris we found this confusing as our train from Paris to Bayonne was listed as the train to Irun, with no indication of any of the intermediate stops. This initially made finding the correct train confusing for us being used to how VIA Rail and Amtrak stations list their trains.
(2) As we discovered, when you buy SNCF tickets - even if they are bought for a train route - it does not necessarily mean that the entire route will take place on the train. Sometimes, owing to a variety of factors, passengers can be switched to buses. Though we were shocked, and a little confused, the bus trip was perfectly comfortable and allowed us to have a little longer tour of the region which turned out to be great. So if you get put on an SNCF bus instead of a train - especially in the midst of one of France's labour disputes - trust that everything will work out.
(3) While ATMS are prevalent throughout Spain and along the Camino we had one difficulty for which there was no warning. Namely when we withdrew funds we could not pick which account (Savings or Chequing) to withdraw from. Similarly when we received our ATM receipt it showed how much was removed but not the balance left, hence we could not even guess which account it was coming from. As a result we ended up having to have family look into our account to ensure that the funds were coming from the right account. Just something to be aware of when you use Spanish ATMS.
(4) Perhaps one of the hardest things for us to get used to on the Camino was the timing of Spanish meals. Pilgrims need to be aware that dinner in Spain is between 7 and 8:30 and that this can be hard if you have had a small breakfast and a limited lunch on the go. In addition there is only a limited amoutn of fast food in Spain and it is usually found in the larger cities and certainly not in the smaller rural towns along the way. In other words, while there are fruit stands and cafe bars along the way, you also need to be prepared as it can lead to a long day if you are not ready to wait until 7 or 8 pm for your dinner. A note here, especially for North American pilgrims, the key to food in Spain is to visit bars. Bars in Spain, unlike Canada and the United States, are not primarily for dispensing alcohol. In Spain bars serve coffee, orange juice, breakfast, lunches, tapas, and of course beer, spirits, and wine. Hence bars in Spain are more like cafes and restaurants and therefore become the main go to for almost all of your daily needs while hiking. In particular along the Camino they also provide you with the chance to get more food, to rest, to recharge your devices, check your digital networks through wifi, and get your pilgrim stamp en route. Also notably bars are often one of the few things which are regularly open - early in the morning for breakfast, often during siesta in the afternoon, and late at night for sports games and drinking.
(5) While public water fountains are prevalent along the Camino and in Spain, when you go to a bar or restaurant for a meal things get a little trickier. At each meal in a public restaurant (not albergues) asking for a glass of water leads to the waiter informing you that you have to purchase a bottle of water. To us this did not seem to be a problem, however waiters often seem confused that anyone would actually buy water and strive to inform you that a bottle of water costs more than a bottle of wine and try to convince you to get wine instead. While we often did get a bottle of wine later with our meal, the task of explaining that we also wanted a bottle of water often led to a longer conversation at the outset of most of our meals.
(6) Finally, and while on the subject of waiters and waitresses, it seems that tipping wait staff in Spain leads to confusion on their part and often we found led to a large amount of animosity on their part towards you. Hardly a day went by when one of us was not yelled at for trying to leave a tip.
In addition to our specific practical advice we also felt that there was some more general guidance that we could pass along for those hiking the Camino:
(1) My first and perhaps most important piece of advice is, that when you think you want to give up (and you will think this), take a break, get a private room, get some sleep, and then hike on for at least two more days. By then either you'll be sure it isn't for you, or realize that it was just a hard day or exhaustion getting to you. Trust that we all get frustrated and disillusioned on the way, but that if you can get through that feeling you're in for a great adventure!
(2) My second piece of advice is something we were told on our first day in the first albergue we stayed in. At the time neither of us realized the depth of its meaning or its importance. That being: to accept rather than expect. We only saw it after reflecting on the Camino, but it became clear that most of the problems we encountered were because we had expectations that either could not be fulfilled or simply were not fulfilled. As such, the problem was not with the Camino or the albergue or anything else, the problem was within us and what we had demanded from the situation. In talking with others we hiked with we have also seen that many of their frustrations and disappointments were because they too were expecting a specific result rather than seeing what was given to them in each moment. So many wonderful people who we came to know on the Camino were disappointed weeks in because they did not find a partner, a wife, a husband, or had not yet had all of their difficulties resolved by the hike. But in seeing the Camino through our expectations we missed experiences that we could have learned from. If only we had accepted rather than expected. Even albergue owners along the way talked about their frustrations with pilgrim's expectations - those who wanted a hike mirroring the movie "The Way", or to have a friend like Yost, make lifelong friends, find their life partner, have a jail experience, or find an eccentric residence host. Indeed one albergue owner said that given the pressures and expectations of the movie "The Way" many hostel operators who now considered "performing as the eccentric host" to garner that type of reputation and get noted in the Brierley guide as a "necessary experience". This too is unfortunate, since the reality is that there are characters in every hiking group, there are experiences to be had without the expectations and pantomimes which follow. If you accept the Camino for what it is including the challenges ranging from snoring bunk mates, to rainy hiking days, to tough climbs, you will find that new avenues of interest and adventure reveal themselves to you. Always remember that often the Great moments on the Camino and in life come right after the tough moments, you just have to be open enough to see and embrace them.
(3) Third and final piece of advice would be to remember that getting to Santiago is not the end all and be all of the Camino. Some people cannot finish the trek, some people get hurt, some people chose to walk away from the trail. All of this is ok! We all walk our own Caminos, if you can't finish it then there is a lesson to be learned there and you need to figure it out. Remember that the Camino is more about the voyage than the destination. By extension if you do get to Santiago, you'll likely realize that this isn't the end of the pilgrimage either. Some people go onto Finisterre or Muxia to continue their treks, which certainly would give you a geographic conclusion to this particular hike when you get to the Atlantic. Ultimately however remember, that Santiago is just a city, the Cathedral is just a building, and the Credential is just a piece of paper - all are beautiful and symbolic of your achievements but the key is to keep the spirit of what they represent alive everyday in your life.
Thank you to everyone who has followed in our hike along the Camino Frances and our adventure!
Day 42 - Paris to Toronto
We were awake at 5 am out of habit, but we both sat in the hotel room until 8 am, uncertain what to do with the extra time. By 9 we had enjoyed a brief breakfast in the lobby, checked out, and boarded the shuttle to the Charles de Gaul airport. Checked in, we were on the 11:30 am flight from Paris to Montreal before changing aircraft for a short jump from Montreal to Toronto. Our flights were again long, but safe and uneventful. Without the excitement of the Camino keeping us awake as we crossed the Atlantic this time, we both slept well and arrived into Toronto at 8 pm. Here we again gathered our luggage, and waited for the Airlink bus which took us from Toronto to the small town we currently call home. We arrived home at midnight. Here it did not take long for the silence of our own home in our own neighbourhood to get to us. Ironically, after weeks of being frustrated by the noises of others at night, and the hurried mornings on the Camino, it is the silence of our own house which is irritating. The hum of the refrigerator, the click of the furnace, the sound of the pool pump, are now all unnerving electronic noises. The snoring of the albergue, the rustling of others in their bunks, the crickets outside, and the smell of fresh cut hay are all just memories. Our adventure in Spain has come to an end and the trick will be figuring out how to make sense of it all and keep it fresh and meaningful in our daily lives.
As we sit here, safely back home, I want to say thank you to everyone we met along the way, and to everyone who helped us make this possible. Although it hasn't sunk in yet, I think we are different for having made this journey, and we couldn't have done it alone. Thank you!
Practical information:
Distance: 6,017 km
Max Temperature: 15°C
Accommodations: Home, Simcoe Ontario
Day 41 - Santiago de Compostela to Paris
We awoke this morning early and wandered back to the cathedral to spend some time watching excited pilgrims rush into the main square. It was here that the depression began to settled in. Our trek was done and we didn't belong in the flood of new pilgrims who came with their groups to finish their quests. Two days after arriving it is clear the transformation from piglrim to tourist is complete, and it is time to go home and figure out how to fit the Camino into our lives back in Canada.
With all of this in mind we began our homeward journey. We hired a taxi from our hotel to the small, clean, and modern looking Santiago airport to catch our Air Iberia flight to Madrid. At first his was a stunning experience, as the taxi was travelling at a much faster speed than we had been for the past 4 - 5 weeks. However, by the time we arrived at the airport we had already begun to adjust back to the pace of automated world we had left behind. With few other people in the airport we were quickly checked in and took the time to admire a scale model of Santiago and the Cathedral which was set up in the waiting from.
We caught our flight to Madrid, where we had a two hour layover before catching a flight back to Paris. By 8 pm we were back in France, and from the aiport we caught a Le Bus Direct to the Ibis Styles Paris Roissy hotel.
Given our late arrival into Paris we were advised to order dinner before closing time. As such, after rather basic fair in the hotel restaurant, we were back in our room by 10 catching up on our final journals and preparing for our morning flights from Paris to Montreal and then from Montreal to Toronto, and our final shuttle drive back home. By the end of the day both of us had sore legs and sore backs - ironically from sitting all day on planes and not being able to get out walking or hiking. How quickly our bodies began to expect certain lifestyles and physical demands. Ultimately today was relatively uninspiring and uneventful, but I suppose that is how you want things to go when you are on a series of plane flights. In the end we are grateful to have been able to safely travel from Santiago to Madrid to Paris without incident and to arrive at our hotel in time for an evening meal.
Accommodations: Ibis Styles Paris Roissy Hotel (95.95 Euro / room)
Day 40 - Santiago de Compostela
We awoke early on our final morning in Santiago in order to return to the Cathedral and partake in the early morning mass at 8 am. Today's itinerary had been the subject of debate for almost a week prior to arriving in Santiago. Shortly after leaving Portomarin we had begun discussing the possibility of what to do with our extra day. We had explored the notion of taking a bus to Finisterre and back, but thought that it would be better to have the time to more fully enjoy that route. We had also considered moving our flights by 2-3 days in order to hike to Finisterre and Muxia, but that option came at the cost of almost $800.00 in fees. Added to all of this was the fact that any of these choices meant that we would have to essentially walk away from our friends after the pilgrim's mass without any time for goodbyes or reflection. As a result, for our "extra day in Santiago" we ultimately decided to spend the time, enjoy the city and museums, and to have a final dinner with our companions. In the end, we made the right decision!
Following mass we enjoyed a cafe con leche and fresh pie in a cafe located beside the cathedral. After this we spent several hours exploring and photographing the cathedral interior, which was beautifully illuminated by the morning sun. After a second breakfast we sat in the main plaza awaiting the arrival of our Canadian friends at the conclusion of their Camino. At around 11 am they came trekking down the stairway, exciting by their achievement and stunned to see that so many others had waited to cheer them on.
Now left with the afternoon to ourselves, we decided to visit the nearby pilgrim museum and to take the roof top tour of the cathedral. Our first stop, the Museo Das Peregrinacions e De Santiago (1.20 Euro / individual admission), or the Museum of Pilgrimage and Santiago is a collection focused on the history of pilgrimage to the region. Inside we enjoyed displays on historical and worldwide pilgrimages, with the main focus of course being on the Camino throughout Europe. We also got to see artistic representations of pilgrims and saints, displays on symbols, rituals and documents related to pilgrims, and examples of ancient Compostela documents including copies of the original Codice Calixtino! We thoroughly enjoyed all of this.
Next we visited the Museo Catedral and purchased our tickets for a roof top tour of the Cathedral (10 Euros / person) later in the afternoon. The Cathedral Museum itself is fascinating and includes art, historical displays, descriptions of the cathedral's restoration, as well as various other religious pieces including previous butofumerios. During our visit we were able to wander the hallways of the building and visit the upper balconies of the cathedral to get a great view down into the church. We were also able to go out onto a narrow outside balcony which overlooked the main plaza in front of the cathedral.
While we wanted to continue our visit, our roof top tour was set to begin at 4 pm, and so we returned to the museum entrance to meet our guide. Our tour began with a brief history of the cathedral during which time we were lead upwards through a series of long narrow stair cases to a doorway which opened outwards onto the roof and set between the two front spires of the western facade (front) of the church. Once on the roof we were led onto the stone tiles over the nave of the cathedral, where we were allowed to walk around freely. Surprisingly, despite the slant of the roof everyone was able to walk with great ease and stability while the guide detailed the history of the church and the city. In the roof we were able see the back of the state of St. James on the front of the Cathedral, and we able to walk to both the central tower and the clock tower. From our vantage point we could see through windows down into the church, walk under archways, see down into the surrounding plazas, and see the nearby Seminario Mayor, which is the main lodging for most pilgrims in the city. As with most of our trip, today we were truly luck to have had a wonderful and clear day to visit the cathedral roof and enjoy such a beautiful view of Santiago. I would certainly suggest that anyone who visits Santiago should make the time for this tour, even if one in your native language is not available. It is still well worth it.
When the roof top tour came to an end we realized that it was nearing time for us to meet our friends for our final meal together, as most of us were set to either hike onwards or take a bus to Finisterre and Muxia the next day, or fly out to Paris, London, or Madrid early in the morning. We all met at 7 pm outside of the Parador beside the Cathedral and together made our way to a nearby restaurant, the Casa Manolo. Here, after a long meal, we slowly made our goodbyes to most of our comrades, and returned to the cathedral with others, where we gathered outside in the plaza, and then slowly parted ways. Afterwards we wandered the city, talked some, photographed some, but in general we mostly just tried to put off returning to our hotel. By 1 am however we are back in our room, packing and preparing for our morning flight from Santiago to Madrid, and then from Madrid to Paris. And just like that, the Camino is done, our friends are returning to their lives, and we are about to return home.
Accommodations: Hotel San Lazaro (45 Euros / room / evening)
Day 39 - O Pedrouzo to Santiago de Compostela
Our apologies for posting a day late. The excitement of getting into Santiago, meeting old friends, and enjoying our evening celebrations together made sitting, typing, and posting somewhat less of an immediate priority.
Yesterday morning, after an uneasy and excited "final sleep" on the Camino, we were up very early to hike out in order to be checked in, cleaned up, and at the cathedral in Santiago for the pilgrim's mass at noon. From O Pedrouzo to Santiago we had just under 20 km to hike, which we accomplished at what felt like an absurdly fast pace that let us cover the distance in 4 hours! Setting off into the early morning dark meant that the previous day's exploration of the Eucalyptus forest paid off (given how confusing such areas can be) and we were able to adeptly navigate our way along the pathway without difficulty.
Surprisingly, a short way along the trail we ran into a Dutch lady who was collecting pilgrim stories on the Camino. As she joined us we were told that she had completed part of the Camino Frances and then turned north, explored the Camino Norte, and recently returned to the main route to finish in Santiago. As we listened to her story we ended up hiking together for several hours while making our final push. En route we also ran into many of the German, American, and Canadian pilgrims whom we had met and talked with along the Camino, and we all promised to find one another again later in the day. Energized we continued onwards.
After just over an hour of hiking along a forested pathway we arrived in the village of Lavacolla, where the three of us enjoyed a brief breakfast in a trailside bar, called the Cafe a Concha, which consisted of bagged chocolate croissants and weak coffee. While hardly the best fare we've had on the Camino, the warmth and energy it gave us was quite welcome. The village of Lavacolla has a historical resonance along the Camino de Santiago. The name itself literally translates into "Ball Wash", and purportedly was the location in which pilgrims traditionally washed themselves after a final evening of enjoyment with prostitutes before heading to the cathedral in Santiago to be "cleansed" of their sins. Sadly, in the dark we could not locate the historical ponds or baths, and so we continued our trek past a beautiful Celtic cross, up a large stair case, past the local church, the Iglesia de Lavacolla, and back onto the Camino Santiago.
As the darkness lifted the trail ceased moving through forests and along dirt pathways, and instead travelled between buildings, along the roadway, past the Santiago airport, and into the suburbs of the city itself. If it wasn't for our excitement, much like Pampalona, Burgos and Leon, I would say that a great deal of this section was uninspiring. Indeed, on any other day this type of trail would have been met with critique, but today, as we enter Santiago, it symbolizes our arrival after more than a month of hiking!
After meandering through residential neighbourhoods we soon arrived at Monte do Gozo, from which pilgrims get their first look at the Cathedral in Santiago. Traditionally, many pilgrims stop here the night before hiking into the old city of Santiago to reflect upon their journey. For our part, I cannot imagine, given our level of excitement, how anyone could stop so close to the end on the very edge of the city! I will admit that I can appreciate the symmetry of beginning in a large albergue like Roncesvalles, and concluding in the one at Monte do Gozo. While we did not spent an evening here, we nonetheless spent some time admiring the nearby monument to Pope John Paul II, and briefly visited the iconic Pilgrim monument, whose arms point out the direction of the cathedral in the distance. We also took a moment to visit the small chapel on the hillside, the Capilla de San Marcos.
With less and less time before the Pilgrim's Mass, we headed downhill into the city of Santiago, and found ourselves now almost speed walking through the city streets in a steady stream of other pilgrims. Along city sidewalks, through parks, and across roads we hiked, and along with lines of other pilgrims we trekked with one similar goal in mind - following the bronze shells inlaid into the sidewalk towards the Cathedral. We rushed past the sign for the city of Santiago and past countless crosses, churches, monuments, and other adornments in our haste.
Though we wanted to get to the Cathedral with everyone else, we had decided last night to check in and drop off our bags before the service. As we passed on the municipal albergues we stopped to get a room, only to discover that they were already full at 9:30 am! We tried again at another albergue, with the same result. Stunned by this, we were (bless the kindness of the albergue volunteer) directed to a wonderful residence about a block away, the hotel San Lazaro. Now unreasonably worried about missing mass, we inquired about a room, checked in, took very quick showers, changed or clothes, and resumed our race towards the Cathedral!
Along the route through the city we found quotes engraved in the ground, among which one stood out the most: "Europe was made on the pilgrim road to Compostelle". Having "just" traversed the width of Spain never had such a sentiment seemed so true! We soon found the cathedral, hiked past the beautiful gardens in the Plaza de la Imaculada, through the arch of Pazo do Palacio, down the stair case, past the Parador Hotel, and arrived at the front of the iconic Santiago de Compostella Cathedral. A massive structure, imposing in the large plaza - the Praza do Obradoiro! This was a site it was difficult to imagine ever seeing, and ultimately we would only see half of it, as the historical structure was covered in blue scaffolding. Neither the excitement nor the disappointment can be expressed. The cathedral itself was a welcome sight, it was our goal, it was the "prize" we had been working toward for weeks and across hundreds of kilometers.
After several moments of excitement and reflection we were struck by the odd thought, where do we go now? I am done, is this the end? Fortunately that question was easily (if only temporarily) answered for us, given that the pilgrim mass was due to start within 1/2 an hour of our arrival. We did not have much time to enjoy the achievement and instead we found our way into the Cathedral to find two seats. Once settled we soon began to see, meet with, and hug those whom we had not seen in over a month, those we had trekked with and knew by sight but had never met with, and many whom we had hiked with continually day after day for weeks! In the end, almost all of our Canadian, America, German, French, and Australian companions arrived for the same pilgrim mass. Those who we could not find we were soon told were only a day behind and we would see tomorrow. What a perfect reunion!
Highly emotional, we sat throughout the Pilgrim's mass reflecting on our hike, on our friends, and all that we had been through. At the conclusion of the service we were fortunate to be able to see the Botafumerio swing in the cross nave of the cathedral! Once a regular tradition, the Botafumerio is only used one day a week (not today) and on special occasions now. Apparently we are very lucky, at is was being swung today owing to the visit and generosity of a royal visitor to the cathedral. We felt very fortunate! For those who do not know, the Botafumerio itself is a large incense burner suspended from the ceiling of the cathedral, filled with Frankincense and swung across the nave of the structure, filling the building with its scent. Historically the Botafumerio was used to bless pilgrims at the conclusion of their pilgrimage and, on a more practical level, likely to cover the smell of their bodies after such a long trek. When in action, it is mesmerizing.
After the church service we took a few minutes to say hi to many of those we recognized, and enjoyed some quiet time to sit and reflect in the grand structure. We also wandered the cathedral photographing it's vaulted ceiling, huge windows, the large golden alter, the beautiful side alters, and the walkways above. The artistry throughout the structure ranged from the simple and dignified to the ornate and overdone. Unfortunately, as with the outside, much of the interior of the cathedral was also covered in scaffolding or closed off. This included the Portico da Gloria, with its iconic Central Mullion, which is a central pillar that centuries of pilgrims have approached on their knees and laid their hands on, thus wearing a handprint into the stone.
After visiting the cathedral we lined up to walk through the Holy Doors, or the Puerta Santa. The Holy Doors on the Cathedral in Santiago are open only during Holy Years, and 2016 was declared the Holy Year of Mercy by Pope Francis. As we entered we were able to admire the artistry on the face of the door showing the life of St. James. The ornate and carved doorways are beautiful, and worth a few minutes. Once inside, the line proceeded behind and around the main alter to a small stair case. Here we stepped up and were able to hug the golden statue or Effigy of St. James and get a quick glimpse of the cathedral from behind the alter. I was fortunate enough to be able to hug him and kiss his back, but Sean had to step aside and missed his chance to do so as a woman ahead of him in line had become very emotional and refused to let go of the figure despite security's best attempts to extract her. In order to keep the line moving security asked Sean to move on and so together we both proceeded downstairs, where we briefly paid our respects to the remains of the Saint in the crypt below, which purportedly reside a caged silver box. With little for space in the small room we were quick to move on to allow others their time with the saint.
With everyone gathered after mass, we found out that while many of us were staying for a couple of days in Santiago, several were leaving almost immediately. As such we all moved to the nearby Plaza de la Quintanata underneath the Cathedral clock tower and near the Pilgrim Holy door, pushed a few of the restaurant tables together, and celebrated all of our achievements. For several hours we all sat together, consuming large plates of tapas, bottles of wine, and decanters of Spanish Sangria while we talking and reminiscing. By 3 pm we dispersed, with some people heading off to find an albergue, others heading to the airport or train station, and still others (such as ourselves) intent on getting our credentials.
The new pilgrim office, several blocks away from the cathedral, was easy to find. Once there, we waited in line for some time with hundreds of other excited pilgrims with our stamped passports. Despite reports and rumours to the contrary, the volunteers in the pilgrim office were wonderful, curious, kind, talkative, and supportive. We both decided that in addition to the pilgrim credential you can receive for free upon presentation of your stamped passport, we would purchase the Latin credential and cardboard tube to transport them home. On the Latin credential the volunteers fill in your name in Latin, as well as the place and date you began your pilgrimage, and the date you finished. Perhaps the most exciting part for me was to receive my latin name! I also have to say that the artistry of the credentials is absolutely beautiful! While in line for my credential a volunteer told me that to be completely absolved of your sins you need to walk through the Holy Doors at the cathedral with your documentation, and so I quickly trekked back to the church and went back through for a second time, figuring that since I am here, I might as well be extra sure.
Soon afterwards we returned to our hotel room, washed up again from a day spent in the warm sun, and set back out to stroll around the old quarter of Santiago. Some of the confectionary shops, and papery stores were beautiful to look into. Certainly one of the most interesting parts of being in France and Spain must be the gorgeous window displays, which shops still assemble each day. Around 7 pm we met everyone back at the cathedral and trekked off for a communal celebration dinner together at the wonderful Casa Camilo. Here we pushed 5 tables together and sat on the patio in the warmth of the evening. In so many ways our Camino was now completed. It was a night of extreme excitement at having achieved our goals and being together, but extreme sadness with the realities of being done, and the realization that many of our companions had already headed home. In other words the evening was full of a range of emotions, thoughts, and conversations which are hard to describe or put into words.
With our meal completed we all wandered back to the plaza in front of the Cathedral and lay on the ground watching the stars - on a beautiful clear night. Nearby we heard a group of musicians playing and so walked over and listened to the group of singers called Tuna de Derecho and danced. We also purchased their CD which I am listening to as I type this.
Nearing midnight we all said our good nights and made plans to again meet the next day for dinner in order to include one Canadian couple with whom we had travelled but who were now a day behind - and also because we wanted to hold onto the moment for as long as possible. Afterwards we returned to our hotel room and, unable to sleep, I decided it was best to write my journal and update the blog while everything was still so fresh in my mind. What a wonderful day and what a beautiful conclusion to our Camino in Spain!
Sonya and Sean
Sean and I discovered a passion for hiking while at university together in southern Ontario, and we have spent as much time as we can away from our computers ever since, hiking, kayaking, travelling, and camping across Canada. My love of birds, nature, and the outdoors led me to a career in conservation, while Sean has transitioned into the world of freelance writing and landscape photography. While we both spend quite a lot of our working days in front of computers, we take every opportunity we can to get outside and explore, disconnect from the digital world, and recharge. We completed our first medium-distance hike in 2016, when we walked 800 km along the Camino Frances, from St. Jean-Pied-de-Port, France to Santiago de Compostela, Spain. We followed this with a 780 km hike along the Via Podiensis, from Le Puy-en-Velay, France to Roncesvalles, Spain in 2017. Since then we have trekked the Camino Portuguese across the length of Portugal, Ontario's Bruce Trail from Niagara Falls to Tobermory, and Newfoundland's beautiful East Coast Trail. Lately we have been planning our next big adventure ... 24,000 km along Canada's Great Trail !
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Why Is Mike Ruppert Promoting the 'Peak Oil' Scam?
Conspiracy Planet
Whoa, Dude! Are We Peaking Yet? "The Club of Rome, a non-profit global think tank, said in the 1970s that we'd hit peak oil in 2003. It didn't happen."
So said Kevin Kelleher, writing for Popular Science magazine in August of this year. But it did indeed happen, according to Michael Ruppert and his band of resident 'experts,' who collectively insist that the planet is now at the point of 'peak' oil production.
(Kevin Kelleher "How Long Will the Oil Age Last?" Popular Science, August 2004)
It appears then that today's 'Peak Oil' crowd has some pages in their propaganda playbook that were lifted directly from the Club of Rome, which raises the obvious question: what exactly is the Club of Rome?
Who is it that has handed Michael Ruppert and company the baton?
The initial membership list of the Club of Rome, as it turns out, contains some interesting names:
Iraq and the Problem of Peak Oil
Global Climate Change & Peak Oil Part III
Russia Proves 'Peak Oil' is a Misleading Zionist S...
Doomsday nearer than you think
Oil depletion: knowledge bank
Arithmetic, Population, and Energy
Over A Million Barrels Of Oil A Day Lost To Deplet...
Oil's Slippery Slope
Experts: Oil Production Peak Inevitable
Amory Lovins' Leaner, Greener World
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Postdoc at University of Colorado Biofrontiers Institute
Biofrontiers is looking for a new assistant director for interdisciplinary education. One of the main responsibilities is overseeing the new quantitative biology graduate program, and the job has a lot of possibilities to shape this grad program and other new educational initiatives. I thought that this job may be of interest to a former or finishing PER postdoc, or perhaps you know other people who might be a good fit for this type of position. The ad is up now at CU Jobs. If you know of any good candidates, could you please let them know about the opening? We will be accepting applications at least through mid January and will start interviewing after that.
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Hypocritical New York Times Takes on Steven Emerson
By: Roger Aronoff
When the New York Times sees a gaffe made on Fox News, it blasts the network in article after article, in this case at least three times, but when its own reporters make basic fact-checking mistakes, the paper’s readers receive casual notice at the bottom of an article.
In some editions of the Times, Stephen Castle and Robert Mackey misidentified the parent company of Fox News, Rupert Murdoch’s title at News Corporation, and “paraphrased incorrectly in some editions” Rupert Murdoch’s Twitter comments. That’s three errors in one article.
These errors were in an article criticizing Steven Emerson, a member of the Citizens’ Commission on Benghazi and Executive Director of the Investigative Project on Terrorism, who mistakenly said that “[A]nd in Britain, it’s not just no-go zones, there are actual cities like Birmingham that are totally Muslim where non-Muslims just simply don’t go in.”
Emerson retracted his statement, saying that he “clearly made a terrible error for which I am deeply sorry,” and Fox News issued an on-air apology regarding the incident. Emerson even made a donation to Birmingham Children’s Hospital. Will The New York Times make similar donations on behalf of its numerous errors in the Castle and Mackey article?
Writers for the Times didn’t hold back: “Maybe if these ‘journalists’ left their bubble and actually talked to more Muslims, they wouldn’t spew nonsense—such as that Pakistan is an Arab country or that Birmingham, England, is entirely Muslim and a no-go area for Christians,” wrote Nicholas Kristof for the Times. “That paranoid claim by a Fox News ‘expert,’ later retracted, led wags to suggest that the city had renamed itself Birming, since Muslims avoid ham.”
The New York Times repeatedly labeled Emerson a “self-described expert on Islamist terrorism.” Investigative reporter Gary Weiss, in an outstanding blog post on this controversy, noted, “When you call someone a ‘self-described expert’ it’s a bit like calling someone a ‘self-described doctor.’…He or she is a phony.”
Weiss suggested that Kristof was perhaps carrying a grudge against Emerson for an article years earlier in which “Emerson raked [Kristof] over the coals for a column that criticized the U.S. and Israel for isolating the Hamas terror group.
But as Weiss pointed out, the late New York Times managing editor A.M. Rosenthal called Emerson “one of the nation’s best national security correspondents” whose “investigative work on radical Islamic fundamentalism is absolutely critical to this nation’s national security. There is no one else who has exhibited the same expertise, courage and determination to tackle this vital issue.” And Weiss cited other examples of praise for Emerson on the pages of the Times: “In this article in the Times in 1988,” wrote Weiss, “veteran Times reporters Martin Tolchin and Richard Halloran described Emerson as ‘an expert on intelligence.’”
But the Times are a-changing.
Times executive editor Dean Baquet has announced that the paper won’t publish the Charlie Hebdo cartoons “primarily” because doing so might offend its Muslim readers.
While Emerson clearly was wrong on the specifics of what he said, he was referring to the undeniably expanding Islamization occurring in parts of Europe. This news story from CBN in 2010 captured this very real phenomenon, which does exist, and continues to grow.
Accuracy in Media’s Cliff Kincaid cited some of the outstanding work that Emerson has done through the years, which is the reason that the left has come after him so hard: “For his part, Emerson has been consistently correct about the development of the Islamic extremist networks that now threaten America and the world,” writes Kincaid. “His latest film, ‘Jihad in America: The Grand Deception,’ describes how Muslim Brotherhood fronts, such as CAIR, have pursued a strategy described in secret documents as the ‘Civilization-Jihadist Process’ of destroying Western civilization from within.” He also referred to Emerson’s 1994 documentary, “Jihad in America,” which “included previously unknown videos of the clandestine activities of radical Islamic terrorist groups in the United States.”
Besides, the Times, as AIM has cited for 45 years, often gets the big things wrong as well. For example, we debunked their December, 2013 story on Benghazi that they intended as the definitive statement. We’re still waiting for their retraction or correction on that one.
Despite his mistake, Emerson is one of the nation’s leading experts on Islamic terrorism. The New York Times, on the other hand, has shown itself time after time to be hypocritical and agenda-driven.
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Elijah Wood will be in 'The Hobbit'
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Jan 6 2011, 11:20pm
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Elijah Wood will be in 'The Hobbit' Can't Post
Deadline hinted first but TheOneRing.net can confirm that Elijah Wood will step in front of Peter Jackson's cameras and return to Middle-earth for a part in 'The Hobbit' and we even know how. Despite how some fans will respond at first, the reasons are organic and natural and shouldn't upset even the most ardent purists.
***MAJOR HOBBIT MOVIE SPOILERS AFTER THE BREAK***
As readers of "The Hobbit" know, the tale of "The Downfall of The Lord of the Rings" and "The Hobbit or There and Back Again," are contained in the fictional "Red Book of Westmarch." In Peter Jackson's LOTR films, the books are shown on screen and written in by Bilbo and Frodo and handed off to Sam Gamgee. (Not explained on film are Sam's progeny later having the book and being Wardens of the Westmarch - hence the book's title.)
The fictional book, and either the telling from or the reading of, will establish Frodo in the films, leaving viewers to experience the tale of 'The Hobbit' through Bilbo's point of view.
Since the speculation is now everywhere around the interwebs, TORn can confirm that as of now, the plans are to feature Frodo in the opening sequence of the films. It is unlikely that studio Warner Bros. or Team Jackson would change the script at this point in response to the web buzz so we may have just "spoiled" December 2012 for some, but we warned you. (And, sat on the spoiler until leaks started to appear!)
Rumors have suggested Wood is "in talks" to appear in the film but that isn't an issue as it very likely the role was discussed with the actor at the scripting phase of the films and he was agreeable to reprise his part then. It is likely but less certain that the same can be said of Orlando Bloom who is rumored (and TORn cannot currently lock-down confirm) to be playing his LOTR Elf character Legolas.
The status of other actors' whose characters would have been living during the plot line of the Hobbit, are varied. Cate Blanchett is confirmed as Galadriel while Hugo Weaving's Elrond is a prominently featured character in the source material but not confirmed. Liv Tyler's Arwen could logically be present as could other ancient Elves like Marton Csokas' Celeborn.
Frodo's return, makes it possible that Sean Astin could appear as Sam and other Hobbits such as Merry or Pippin can not be ruled out. TORn's information indicates however, that Frodo and the young Bilbo are the primary Hobbit connections between the film series.
Dwarves will play a prominent role of course in the new films, and LOTR character Gimli (John Rhys-Davies) is the son Gloin, one of one of Bilbo's companions for the journey of the titular Hobbit. Readers can view our Hobbit cast page to see the status and information on all known characters from the film.
Two very obvious absences from any press releases so far are signings of Ian McKellan as Gandalf and Andy Serkis as Gollum. Both actors are believed to be in negotiations and the studio and actors have elected not to conduct talks through the press. Fans including those on TheOneRing.net message boards, are worried about the actors' signings.
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Jan 7 2011, 5:52am
I knew it! [In reply to] Can't Post
As soon as I read "Frodo will be in the Hobbit", him reading the book was what popped into my head.
On one hand...I'm not a big fan of the idea of basically forcing this story to be seen as a prequel. But on the other hand...I'm excited to see how they'll do this.
I think this could be a fun way to connect the two films and show how it all comes full circle.
(This post was edited by Mooseboy018 on Jan 7 2011, 5:52am)
Ainu Laire
Wow! [In reply to] Can't Post
What a spoiler!
The internet was, of course, getting big when LOTR was filmed... but with everyone carrying phones with cameras, and a much larger audience this time around, the Hobbit leaks will be interesting to see in the coming years!
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Not a fan of this [In reply to] Can't Post
I want The Hobbit to be its own stand-alone, present-tense narrative, not a glorified Lord of the Rings flashback.
This is completely unnecessary. Color me disappointed.
(This post was edited by duats on Jan 7 2011, 6:21am)
Milknut
My reaction is the same, but... [In reply to] Can't Post
I think they'll find a way to make it work well.
I do agree, though, this makes it firmly a tie-in sequel, not a stand-alone movie.
On the whole, I wish this weren't so, but I'll live with it.
Edit: let it also be noted that I posted that I hoped this wouldn't happen RIGHT BEFORE IT HAPPENED. Talk about putting your foot in your mouth...
(This post was edited by Milknut on Jan 7 2011, 6:26am)
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I love it [In reply to] Can't Post
The movies are the movies and the books are the books. A statement so true it's not worth saying.
I can't wait for these movies! With such a rich mythology and all the great juicy info we know about the events surrounding Bilbo's journey with the dwarves it would be a mistake not to use those things to make two great films.
Plus I loved the LOTR movies and I can't wait to see some familiar faces! Watching the EE behind the scenes and commentaries I know that I don't always agree with Jackson and co.'s choices but I respect that they are always trying to tell a good story and make sure everything serves the story. So I trust them to use the old characters in clever ways that aren't superfluous.
Purists will shed some tears but they'll still be in line with the rest of us in December '12
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It just strikes me [In reply to] Can't Post
As the filmmakers not having faith in this project being able to stand up on its own. That it needs all these superfluous LoTR tie-ins. That instead of being its own story, it needs to be a LoTR sequel (assuming Frodo is reading the book after the events of LoTR).
Does The Hobbit need to be told through Frodo's reading of Bilbo's book? Not in the least bit.
Now The Hobbit has to be viewed in the context of The Lord of the Rings, instead of it being the other way around.
Remember, from a storyline perspective, The Hobbit doesn't need The Lord of the Rings. The Lord of the Rings needs The Hobbit.
Remark about "upsetting the most ardent purists" [In reply to] Can't Post
Didn't think about this when I originally post, and couldn't edit the original post, hehe.
As for "not upsetting the most ardent of purists", you forget you're dealing with Fans, MrCere! ;)
After all, a lot of the 'Hobbit purists' are not advocating simply for the story to be told as true to the text as possible (with all the animal talking and even the talking purse debate there was a couple months ago), but also in the separation of the story from LOTR. Quite a few fans- who can say if they are in the minority, majority, or if it's evenly split- don't want constant references to LOTR; they want 'The Hobbit', not 'LOTR prequel'. And that is a valid opinion to have.
I'm afraid that these fans were kidding themselves ever since Jackson was tied to the project. LOTR made little under 3 billion in theatres worldwide, and surely that amount, if not closer to double, on VHS/DVD/Blu-ray sales, and all the merchandise sales. And, of course, ROTK won all 11 oscars. Because of this, there is no way in heck that LOTR is not going to be referenced in several ways. While I am sure that Jackson and co. have quite a bit of freedom in this project, I don't think the suits at WB would let them get away with it (if they wanted to- and who is to say they do?)
Anyways, if all we see is less than a few minutes of each character that can be tied in logically, we'll be lucky. I will be jumping with joy if Legolas is only a captain in The Battle of the Five Armies and doesn't end up killing Smaug. I'll be ecstatic if all we see is Frodo and friends chilling at Bag End while Bilbo is writing the book, a one-time scene only being a few minutes long. If we hear of, goodness, Viggo Mortensen suddenly being cast, we'll be really lucky if all he is a shadowy figure turning in Gollum to Mirkwood, nothing more.
Because of the success of LOTR, its references in The Hobbit were inevitable, IMO. If we're lucky, they'll be well done, not too jarring, fit well with the lore, and, most importantly, short.
Now I'd like to hear about the casting of Bard, because hearing about Orlando Bloom's rumored return and nothing about Bard makes me worried about my "Hollywood prediction" above. Because OMG! who wouldn't want Leggy to shoot down the big mean dragon?
HUH? [In reply to] Can't Post
So is this tying into the idea of linking " The Pentology" narratively? Color me confused....
So let me get this straight:
1)The Hobbit Part 1 begins with an extreme "Flash-Forward" scene 65 yrs from the beginning of the Story (the beginning of the Red Book, ie "The Hobbit"), featuring Frodo reading from the completed "Red Book" in Bag End?
2) Since this is going to a single scene, Film 2 will begin in Medias Res, just as TTT did, with no Frodo voice-over.
3) LOTR films, festuring Frodo's part in the Story, so no Frodo narration. (Unless Peter decides to change this in the Ultimate Edition, adding voiceovers sporadically through LOTR..not bloody likely, thnak God, but I'm nervous now!)
4) So Bilbo beginning the Red Book in the FOTR EE will now be a flashback of sorts? (oh my brain hurts)
5)Elijah at the end of ROTK finishing the Red Book, visually linking perhaps with the Opening Scene of TH 1.
So will we see Elijah in the same costume as he wore in that scene? What time-frame will this be in--set before he completes writing the Red Book (before that scene), so he doesn't yet look ill, etc. (Oh my brain really hurts:).
If it's just a single scene linking the Pentology, I don't see the harm in it. But here's another problem: will Frodo be using the "first-person" ? Will he be standing in for the "I"/"voce of Tolkien" establishing a different tone for TH?
Why is this needed in the first place, since the Red Book isn't begun until Bilbo returns?
On another subject--I suppose casting announcement of Elrond and Gandalf ans Gollum are taking so long b/cx these actors are playing hardball with WB and hashing it out, saying they don't want to be screwed out of their rightful share, like New Line did to them. And if any of them are in the MEAA...maybe they wanted out. after Mr Whipp...but that is a different kettle of fish...so I'll not bring that up ny more. *goes off whistling and looking innocent* (just speculation, all innocent!)
At any rate--should be interesting seeing Elijah again in the hobbit gear. There's a big difference between 18 and almost 30!
And--DROGO has ben cast?!? What have I missed? HUH!>! Have they cast Primula then too? Are they going to show THIS? Linkie to sotry and discussion please?!
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Hmmm... [In reply to] Can't Post
TORn can confirm that as of now, the plans are to feature Frodo in the opening sequence of the films.
Does that mean only the opening sequence? If he is the narrator, or we get cutaways, like The Princess Bride (which worked) from story back to narrator, then I'm not a fan of the idea. If there is to be a narrator, it should be Ian Holm and how hard would it have been to bring him back for the opening sequence? It's his story. It would also somewhat satisfy those fans that wanted him to play Bilbo for The Hobbit films (I don't agree with this).
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The filmmakers, or the film's budget providers? [In reply to] Can't Post
We've all heard of studio interference in films. Sometimes it helps films, sometimes it breaks them. LOTR was certainly not devoid of it- the prologue in FOTR exists because of it.
I honestly would not be surprised if one of the first questions the guys reading the script asked was, "How many of the original actors can we bring back?" After all, it is Hollywood.
While I imagine the filmmakers will have an incredible amount of freedom with this project- the choosing of so many unknowns in their cast, for instance, as we've seen- I can see some appeasement of the suits by bringing back some LOTR characters. The White Council only brings in minor LOTR characters, and certainly none of the Fellowship (other than Gandalf of course). As I mentioned in my other post, we will be lucky if the filmmakers only puts them in smaller parts and does it in a way that fits the lore, fits the overall flow of the story, and remains minor.
Some of you may remember in one of the EE extras how a suit at New Line suggested killing off one of the Hobbits for more drama. I can imagine a suit with a similar thought pattern suggesting to scrap Bard and put Legolas in his role instead. After all, they're both archers who happen to come from royalty; no big difference, right?
With LOTR's success, there was no way in years that there were not going to be some tie ins, some simply perhaps the guys at the studio want to make more money with the already-proven LOTR brand. Let us hope that these tie-ins are done well and do not detract from the overall story.
Agreed. [In reply to] Can't Post
Let us hope that these tie-ins are done well and do not detract from the overall story.
Methinks Peter has been watching too much LOST.// [In reply to] Can't Post
Great points by the way.// [In reply to] Can't Post
Good point [In reply to] Can't Post
As usual someone says what I am trying to get at, which I never evenmanage to before writing an encyclopedia.
And let me add---if gthey were worried about Ian's age, they could have had him read from his half-completed "red Book" in old age makeup in the courtyard in Rivendell! ( "Flash-forward" halfway thrugh the films, so to speak).
How can we bde sure this isn;'t just Elijah doing a really good job of selling himself back into this thing via nostalgic Peter?
(and this "for now" bit...if Frodo is going to be doing voiceovers, establishing the gentle "voice of Tolkien"/faaiy-tale vibe, then it destaablizes the narrative linking of the Pentology (I still love Guillermo'
s term for the Saga). .
Is their goal to have 2 distinct films/tales, or seek to link them? I suppose 2 distinct narrative flows, would satisfy purists who want a more childlike TH; while those arguing for a narrative linking...ugh...not sure if I am linking this idea, and I'm usually open-minded....
It would fit with the Hobbit's narrative style! [In reply to] Can't Post
The Hobbit's narrative style, unlike LOTR's, is constantly addressing the reader. The reader is addressed as 'you' several times, and the narrator especially likes to foreshadow, claiming after Bilbo wishes he were home that it would not be the last time he wished it.
If they kept this lighthearted narrative style in the films, using Bilbo as the reader and Frodo (plus others?) as the recipients, it would certainly keep the 'Hobbit' feel many here have wished for, only in a way they did not imagine, nor necessarily want. I, for one, have always been part of the 'make the Hobbit fit the LOTR tone a bit more' crowd, so I cannot say how I would feel if this happened to be the case.
And, of course, if Bilbo was reading from his book, it would break from the continuity of FOTR EE, where he was just beginning to write it.
Though he could be telling this story aloud, and then Frodo could say something like, "You should write this down!" and... there you go. Seamless flow to the beginning of FOTR.
At this point of time, so long as Bilbo remains the star and Frodo a bit character, I'm not bothered if this happens to be the case. And the Hobbit itself can be rather dark with the goblins and the spiders and the dragon... even while Bilbo is telling the story. To Frodo.
Of course, that does not explain why Drogo would be in the films, since he died while Frodo was still young, and Elijah's a bit old to act as an 11 year old...
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making freeman the earlier version of holmes [In reply to] Can't Post
So, this doesn't have to be all bad- I don't think we'll have Frodo as a 15th member of the company or anything like that.
As much as Martin Freeman looks like a young version of Ian Holmes, I reckon it would be a fun way if Ian is reading the red book to Frodo and says: "I was sitting on the grass outside smoking a pipe full of old toby, when... "
fade to MF meeting Ian McKellan as young Bilbo.
Problem: doesn't Bilbo write the Hobbit when he is at Rivendell?
Speaking of Rivendell, I'm waiting for Elrond... come on Hugo Weaving! (and Ian McKellan, of course. When those two are signed I'll be very happy)
As a Lostie...:)
ON the other hand, I seem to recall an article that said that JJ Abrams was inspired by Peter and Co's vaqrious flashbacks during LOTR in creating the narrative style of Lost. So it would come full circle..OH GOD...
My brain hurst as well. [In reply to] Can't Post
I also want to keep an open mind... but this one is definitely puzzling.
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You are right [In reply to] Can't Post
It was written quickly but I should know that something will upset anybody. I suppose it was my personal bias shinning through.
I should edit it actually, but it wouldn't change the message board version anyway.
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It would fit the narrative style for sure... [In reply to] Can't Post
but I always find when the author addresses his/her readers it takes you out of the story. In some context I guess it's warranted. The thing is I've never looked at The Hobbit as being just a children's book (not saying you are). It's a story that matures as it progresses. The Princess Bride came to mind because it the extraction from the story to readers works. I guess that could work for The Hobbit but Sunflower brought up some interesting and valid plot holes that would be a huge stumbling block for people that value continuity.
Of course he won't be the 15th member... [In reply to] Can't Post
You do realize that would be completely impossible, right?
And technically Gandalf could already be considered the 15th member anyway.
Now I have to go home and dig out a letter I wrote and sent [In reply to] Can't Post
back when Return of the King had just finished its run in the theaters. It was an idea of how to bring back a lot of the cast from the Lord of the Rings for a Hobbit movie. It involved a scenario where the story of the Hobbit was being told by Samwise to his children thus bringing back any or all of the Fellowship Hobbits in a giant cameo and then telling the actual story of the Hobbit as a flashback. I have long since decided that this was a weak idea as it would rob the Hobbit of its independence. Well it looks like I need to go back and study the details. It did seem brilliant at the time. Now I am really not so sure.
The biggest reason I can think of for doing it this way is to give the guys we love a chance to put on the feet again without messing up the story of the Hobbit.
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about the Princess Bride.. [In reply to] Can't Post
In the Princess Bride there is less and less narration as it goes on, so maybe that would work in the Hobbit??
TH, who's feeling a bit eeeeee about all this.
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And what about Sir Ian Holm? [In reply to] Can't Post
After the casting of Freeman as Bilbo I've noticed that not many are talking about Ian Holm. But this changes everything. What is the point of Frodo? The only way that makes any sense (to me) is when Bilbo (old version) is reading to Frodo from the Book.
Ofcourse that would raise some questions.. As said; the first scene of LotR would be some kind of flashback..
Ofcourse it is possible that Bilbo isn't reading the book, but is just narrating the story to Frodo (and maybe some other hobbits ), The scene in FotR would me a nice little nod to this; Bilbo is always telling his grand adventure, he is proud of it.
I don't know what the rumour is. That Elijah Wood will return/has been cast/is in negotiations? Or that he/Frodo is in the script? Has some part of the script been leaked?
I believe Ian Holm has retired from acting. Health issues I believe. [In reply to] Can't Post
Please correct me if I am wrong as I am on my fourth night without sleep. Trying to sleep in the daytime does not work well.
Oh yes, I just said this in MrCere's poll in the pollantir... [In reply to] Can't Post
he has a movie coming out next year, but most of his stuff has been voice acting for the last few years. I expect there are health issues.
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Heh! [In reply to] Can't Post
Something will always upset somebody! We are Fans, after all!
I do share your bias, though, so I do not blame you for thinking that.
sharku
Relax [In reply to] Can't Post
In PJ we trust - I'm sure he and the rest of the team, including GdT, have some nice conceits worked out. Can't please all rabid fans any of the time, only hope to placate the majority some of the time.
I was more intrigued by this:
The status of other actors� whose characters would have been living during the plot line of the Hobbit, are varied. Cate Blanchett is confirmed as Galadriel while Hugo Weaving�s Elrond is a prominently featured character in the source material but not confirmed. Liv Tyler�s Arwen could logically be present as could other ancient Elves like Marton Csokas� Celeborn.
No mention of Christopher Lee. Sigh.
Speaking of conceits, since 'The Hobbit' and 'The Lord of the Rings' are actually retellings by Tolkien based on the Redbook of Westmarch, who is anyone to say that JRR's writings were a definitive, correct representation of that book? Perhaps PJ and the team have, with the latest research, uncovered more accurate details and are committing these to the films even as we debate such weighty matters?
It's going to be a fun couple of years at this rate :)
(This post was edited by sharku on Jan 7 2011, 7:37am)
I don't view it as one, either [In reply to] Can't Post
The Chronicles of Narnia are children's books. The Hobbit, while more 'children friendly' when it comes to reading level and some descriptions, is not. I view the later Harry Potter books in the same light.
I'll have to read her post, but I mentioned a couple things that could bring it back to being continuous- the story being told as opposed to read aloud from a completed book, for instance. How Drogo will fit into it, however, is another story.
I don't know if I'd want a Princess Bride-like storytelling for this. I think it could work, but I also think it could be disastrous. Honestly, I'd have to see it in action to really make up my mind.
"No mention of Christopher Lee" [In reply to] Can't Post
I hadn't caught that. *sigh* indeed.
Sort of like my unwavering belief [In reply to] Can't Post
That Tolkien misread the details about the Battle of Amon Hen and PJ got it completely right, from Aragorn outright rejecting the Ring and fighting a gazillion orcs to Boromir's completely and utterly awesome dying words?
Like that, right?
I suspect Guillermo del Toro had nothing to do with this. [In reply to] Can't Post
Kind of like 3-D.
guitarzankansasfan
The Neverending Hobbit [In reply to] Can't Post
Opening scene: Frodo, being chased by Black Riders on the mean streets of Bree, ducks into a secluded bookstore and finds an old guy reading Bilbo's book.
"That's strange, " he says, "uncle Bilbo hasn't published it yet!"
While the old guy gets up to answer the phone, Frodo's curiosity gets the best of him and he steals the book. Frodo then runs to the local school, hides in the attic, lights a candle, opens the book and begins to read, and his voice fades into the voice of Ian Holm and then cut to wide shot of Bag end, then zoom in to Martin Freeman standing in front of the door smoking a pipe...
Ending scene: Frodo suddenly finds himself riding on the back of Smaug, shouting "Yeah! Yeah!" and pumping his fists in the air as he and Smaug chase after the Black Riders through the mean streets of Bree...
But wasn't there a car chase in there some where?// [In reply to] Can't Post
yes [In reply to] Can't Post
He isn't retired, but he has health issues. The new movie you are talking about, 'This side of the Looking Glass', is about an old man 'who's fame and health is rapidly fading', played by Ian Holm. So, he isn't in the prime of his life anymore.. but ofcourse we don't know what Bilbo he would play (if any), maybe the old one?
On a sidenote: The old Bilbo always reminds me of Jan Wolkers, a dutch writer, and especially the impersonation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icDqdHnbxJ0
Not really surprised.. [In reply to] Can't Post
I think Jackson has said all along that if he could come up with a smart way to fit some of the old cast into the story then he would... Since it's a small part in two movies, colour me interested !
the man in black fled across the desert and the gunslinger followed
Welsh hero
sniff sniff. [In reply to] Can't Post
Anyone else smell that?
I expected a press release, this looks like speculation
http://www.facebook.com/hobbitnz
(This post was edited by Welsh hero on Jan 7 2011, 9:06am)
Imladris18
Agreed! [In reply to] Can't Post
It's nice to see that I'm not the only one whose interest is piqued by this. I'd love to see our old favorites come back in creative ways. I'm not a rabid Orlando fangirl, but I'd love to see Legolas wreck havoc on some gobblins for a scene or so. I really don't see them trying to insert them everywhere possible, but rather going about it intelligently.
Maiarmike
I like it... [In reply to] Can't Post
I was really skeptical about Frodo or Elijah being in The Hobbit, as it would have been impossible. But I didn't think about this scenario, and it actually makes sense, and doesn't screw with the actual plot. Just a prologue of sorts. I'm guessing you'll get the historical FotR type prologue with scenes of Smaug taking the Lonely Mountain, etc., then you'll get the short intro with Frodo reading from the Red Book, then we're quickly whisked into the actual story. Can't wait to see this all come together. I think everyone has to remember that this film is being made in 2011, not the 1930's when Tolkien hadn't yet expanded his universe of Middle-Earth. But with Middle-earth later expanded, for continuity, it only makes sense to include extra elements that clarify important historical events, or show relationships between certain characters.
mae govannen
I'm just delighted!!! [In reply to] Can't Post
I'm so glad they found a way - a real, congruent way, I mean - to bring back Frodo, and perhaps more of the other young Hobbits, etc, to introduce this story!...
And my own feeling is that PJ & Co are doing it quite deliberately, not to please anyone but themselves first of all: during the 18 months spent together for the three LOTR films, most of the actors and everyone else had bonded so deeply and were so happy working together, and the parting in the end has been so emotionally difficult (those filmed last moments in the ROTK EE supplements still bring tears to my eyes), I feel they are simply bringing them back together, as many of them as can possibly be done realistically - even if it is for a short while only. If the suits too are pleased, fine, but I don't see it as the primary motivation. And PJ & team know that many of the fans will, like me, be overjoyed too!...
'Is everything sad going to come untrue?'
(Sam, 'The Field of Cormallen', in 'The Return of the King'.)
Jan 7 2011, 11:01am
Well, it does make sense to do it that way [In reply to] Can't Post
And I have a feeling that even those who don't like the idea will move quickly past it when they watch the movie. If Frodo's only going to show up at the beginning and then disappear, fans will forget him pretty quickly when they get absorbed in Bilbo's story.
Those left standing will make millions writing books on the way it should have been. --Incubus
Yes, actor Ryan Gage [In reply to] Can't Post
was cast as Drogo 1 month ago. Primula should be in shortly.
Also, what most of the nay-sayers are forgetting [In reply to] Can't Post
Is that The Hobbit book actually did have a narrator. Why not Frodo?
There will be blood... [In reply to] Can't Post
hehe.. don't mind the subect title.
I think people will be upset no matter what. I think people need to relax (if possible) and judge the movies on their own merits. You've got over 23 months to wait and complian before you even see the first movie.
Regarding purists [In reply to] Can't Post
I regard myself as a purist, and I didn't like some of the scenes in the original movies for that reason.
I think 'purist' can be broken down into different types, though.
I wouldn't, for example, call myself a 'Hobbit purist', but I do see myself as a 'Tolkien purist'. By that, I mean, I'm comfortable with changes being made to the Hobbit, as long as they fit in with the lore, mythos and story that Tolkien was trying to tell.
So, adding bits of Tolkien lore from LOTR (and other sources if allowable) into The Hobbit would not bother me at all. Adding something in that Tolkien doesn't mention does bother me.
I've always loved the telling of the Hobbit backstory in 'Unfinished Tales' for example, and I'd love to see some of that, though sadly it appears off limits.
Tolkien himself changed things to fit the overall story, of course, we all know that. The 'Riddles in the Dark' chapter of the Hobbit differs between early and late versions.
So, if small changes are made, to allow the telling of the whole story of the ring and it's characters, from the start of the Hobbit to the end of the appendices in LOTR, this purist won't complain.
If Legolas kills Smaug, different story entirely.
Mawr yw ein braint i berthyn i'r gwm Llynfi
Vangalad
Narrator [In reply to] Can't Post
The Hobbit book actually did have a narrator. Why not Frodo?
Yes, Frodo actually did a brief narration towards the end of ROTK, perhaps PJ will have him do some TH narration as well.
It's good to finally have some casting information,even non fully official.The Deadline article also suggests that 'Returning actors will need to be locked in shortly',so there won't be long before we have the announcements.
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.
sphdle1
I may have read it wrong but [In reply to] Can't Post
I didn't get the sense that Frodo would be narrating, as it is supposed to be from Bilbo's point of view, so I think Wood is just playing Frodo in a opening scene. Hopefully that means either Holm is narrating with voice only, or is both narrating throughout and starting the movie off with a live appearance playing older Bilbo who is reading his story to Frodo and maybe Sam..!?, before it fades into the main movie...?? One can hope...this was how I envisioned them doing the opening scene/narration since we started discussing if/how Holm could play a part in these movies.
Who would like to hear Holm's voice narrating and possibly see him sitting reading his story to Frodo and Sam??
Seanwise
Re: The Neverending Hobbit [In reply to] Can't Post
Boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew... Lovely big golden chips with a nice piece of fried fish.
This is fun! [In reply to] Can't Post
And I think you're right about the 'cast reunion' aspect of this being for the cast's sake rather than something forced on them from outside.
Of course, the success or failure of any change to the published story will depend entirely on how it's done but we won't know that until we see the film and I refuse to get angsty about it now. I have confidence. They made all sorts of changes in the previous films which would have horrified me if I'd heard rumours about them beforehand and most of them turned out fine. The ones I don't like I find I can forgive because I enjoy the films so much. For me they captured 'something' above and beyond any individual part of the story which felt so right and which still excites my imagination. I'm looking forward to seeing Peter Jackson and co. work that magic again and I believe they will. I might even say that one of the keys to that magic is sympathetic changes made in the adaptation. For me at least, to really enjoy the film I need something which takes me out of the 'I know this story back to front' position into the wide-eyed 'wondering what's coming next' which I felt reading the book for the first time.
But what I really, really want to hear now is some resolution to the question of Gandalf, Elrond, Gollum and Saruman .... and the casting of a Bard
Oh. My. Gahd... No [In reply to] Can't Post
There goes the last vestige of my interest in and curiosity about these movies.
(This post was edited by geordie on Jan 7 2011, 1:30pm)
Very interesting [In reply to] Can't Post
I'm not too pleased about this, but I'll give it a chance. One particularly noticeable implication is that The Hobbit is, for the most part, going to be a sequel to The Lord of the Rings. Frodo is reading the Red Book after his return from Mordor, and the entire story of Bilbo is told as a very long flashback. I guess that's the filmmakers' way of tailoring The Hobbit for an audience which has already experienced The Lord of the Rings.
I wonder: will the White Council/Necromancer/Dol Guldur scenes be included in Bilbo's tale in the Red Book of Westmarch? Any other way would necessitate the interruption of the storytelling, so that Gandalf can contribute the parts of the story for which Bilbo wasn't present (or something along those lines).
I think it would have been better to make Sam the narrator, and have him read Bilbo's part of the Red Book aloud to his children. That way flows better with The Lord of the Rings, as we saw Frodo hand Sam the book towards the end of the third film, and we also saw Sam's children. Establishing a connection between the Red Book and Sam's progeny would also flow better with Tolkien's writings, as they inherited it. Since Sean Astin is older now, it would make sense for him to play the older Sam � much more sense than it makes for the older Elijah Wood to be playing the younger Frodo. Maybe the second film could have ended with Sam saying goodbye to Elanor at the Grey Havens, and giving the Red Book into her keeping... but making Frodo the narrator means that these films, as a whole, will have to slot in somewhere in between the multiple endings of Return of the King � talk about awkward storytelling chronology!
That's a tad melodramatic. [In reply to] Can't Post
Give them a chance at least!
The narrator's voice [In reply to] Can't Post
One way it could be done would be to have Frodo start reading from the Red Book of Westmarch � at first we hear Frodo's voice, reciting Bilbo's story in the first person. Then the scene fades to '60 years ago', and Bilbo's voice takes over from Frodo's. This voice could be provided by either Martin Freeman or Ian Holm (I would prefer the latter).
Also, I think 'an extreme flash-forward' is a very complicated way of looking at it. It sound to me more like The Hobbit actually opens towards the end of The Return of the King, and that Bilbo's entire story is presented as an enormous flashback.
I'm for it. [In reply to] Can't Post
I've been doubtful they could pull off the story without having a narrator, and hoped it would be Ian Holm as older Bilbo. Make-up and a chair too sit in, now that's not asking too much. I guess it could be Frodo...or both of them better still.
<<< There is a long road yet >>>
(This post was edited by Pipe Dream on Jan 7 2011, 2:11pm)
Daeorn Aldal�m�
Could Frodo be "reading" Bilbo's story in Rivendell? [In reply to] Can't Post
So basically:
The Lord of the Rings: The Hobbit, Part 1
Hmm, I might need to warm up to the idea of Frodo introducing The Hobbit films. I think -- and don't ask me why this would make it any better -- but I would prefer Frodo reading about this story while in Rivendell, still recovering from his Ringwraith wound -- not after the Fall of Sauron. Maybe because in The Two Towers flashbacks were already used to converge story plots at that point in the story.
Nai hiruvaly� Valimar.
Oh yes, I agree there are different levels of 'purity' [In reply to] Can't Post
I am a bit of a Tolkien purist myself.
My comment was more thinking of the very, very staunch Tolkien purists. Many of them did not like Jackson's LOTR. I am a bit surprised that they thought these movies would be any "purer" in some aspects, such as the most limited ties to LOTR as possible. I just never saw that happening.
Yes! Sam would be a better choice to flow off of tRotK [In reply to] Can't Post
Every thing you said, I agree with! Why Yoda, I am speaking like? Excited I must be!!
Honest question [In reply to] Can't Post
IIRC from different conversations, you are not a big fan (if at all a fan) of Jackson's LOTR, especially when it comes to the script; what made you believe you would like these movies any better? It's being made by nearly the exact same people.
I would also say to "not count your eggs before they hatch" or something of the like, but you seem rather resolved. Perhaps your opinion of having interest in seeing it will change two years from now, when all the hype is afoot, and you feel 15 bucks (ugh 3D film tickets...) is not *that* bad, even if it slaughters your personal vision.
Cheers, georgie.
We're Fans. Of course we're going to cry, moan, complain, and bicker about every little detail! What else did you expect? ;) // [In reply to] Can't Post
nobofthepony
The Hobbit is not a LOTR prequel, it's a sequel [In reply to] Can't Post
Looks like PJ and the team are viewing the Hobbit as a sequel to LOTR. And I'm alright with that. I believe Frodo will be laboring over the red book after his quest, as he writes The Lord of the Rings, perhaps looking to Bilbo's text for clues on how the ring came to the Baggins. They're probably bring back Elijah because Ian Holm is retired (?) and I can't say I mind seeing Frodo back. I guess I'm not a "purist" and think the movies will be improved by seeing old friends (as long as the cameos are done well.)
But if Elijah is reading the book after the fact, perhaps he is the one making the connections...(Mirkwood...Legolas would have been there!) I wouldn't mind a FEW cutaways to Frodo during the course of the films..but not too many. The last film can end with Frodo and Bilbo going to the Grey Havens (Bilbo can be played by Freeman under prosthetics?) and can focus on them saying goodbye...maybe with Bilbo repeating..."It's a dangerous business going out your front door...") I think it would be a great, emotional place to end the series, and would be better served if watched after LOTR as a sequel, not a prequel.
Perhaps [In reply to] Can't Post
MrCere was wrong about this tidbit would not upset the most stubborn purists
As everybody else said, we have not seen the finished product yet. In fact, we have seen nothing yet. In there is also the possibility of this being cut (like Arwen in Helm's deep)
But geordie, weren't you also the one who commanded us to "scupper these movies"?
jarrellj
This is NOT a shock... tho is is sad. [In reply to] Can't Post
I could not possibly agree more. But PJ has never been a respecter of Tolkien's written word so color me NOT surprised that he puts financial gain (by linking it with his big moneymaker) ahead of fidelity to Tolkien's work. I'm sure they'll find a zillion ways to rationalize it... like Faramir-the-evil-street-thug of the movies had to be that way for 'cinematic' reason. Won't make it more palatable to us 'purists' who are silly enough to favor Tolkien over Jackson. But it'll make money... and that IS their only real goal. Making money.
PJ, Fran and Philippa Boyens are huge fans of Tolkien. [In reply to] Can't Post
That is the truth.
And let's not forget Guillermo del Toro [In reply to] Can't Post
who co-wrote the script and certainly would have removed this sequence if he thought it wasn't working.
Geordie.... come back.... ;-) [In reply to] Can't Post
I think it's fair to say that you already have a pretty low opinion of Peter Jackson's previous films, don't you, so It's not as if you were expecting very much. Supposing the film begins with Frodo looking at the Red Book or talking or listening to Bilbo and then swings back to the story of The Hobbit and tells it, pretty straight by the book, would that really be so dreadful? After all, Frodo must have heard the story from Bilbo, mustn't he?
Don't give up on it yet, they might still surprise you (pleasantly, of course!).
Sequel? How can it be.... [In reply to] Can't Post
... when the last film ended with Frodo and Bilbo sailing off from the Grey Havens. There's no concievable way they can follow on from that. If this is right and Frodo is to be in the opening sequence of the first Hobbit film we still don't know what the context will be. Will Bilbo be telling him the story before the book is written (so setting the scene some time before the action of Fellowship of the Ring). Or will they be in Rivendell? Or will Frodo be reading from the book after his own adventure but before he leaves Middle Earth? Or have they come up with some completely different scenario? Or will they change their minds about how to begin the film several times between now and 2012, so that what they're intending now might not happen at all in the final film?
The one thing The Hobbit cannot be is a sequel to Return of the King (unless we join them on the deck of the ship or in Aman!)
I'm not so sure on GDT. [In reply to] Can't Post
GDT is a great chap which he shown here on the messsage boards but, I can recall that interview some years ago before being attatched to the project that he "hated hobbits, wizards and hairy feet and all that" or something similar, if someone can dig that interview up ( I think it was in connection with his movie Pan's labyrinth).
Maybe he changed his mind later on, but that's quite a statement.
Every time I come on here [In reply to] Can't Post
(which is several times a day) all I see is whine whine whine!
I'm starting to think no one really wants this movie!!!
(This post was edited by Ataahua on Jan 7 2011, 7:55pm)
Is it sure that Frodo will experience the story through the book? [In reply to] Can't Post
Is it sure that Frodo will experience the story through the book? If I'm reading the post right TORn has seen the script and knows it for sure.
I am hoping actually that they haven't seen the script and they are making a guess with the Red Book. This because of strange timelines. The Book wasn't ready till Bilbo finished it in Rivendell. After the Quest for the Ring is done Frodo receives it and a few years later Frodo gives it to Sam. So between the destroying of the Ring and Frodo going to the Grey Havens he must have read it.
According to this news, that will be 'The Hobbit'; the reading of the Red Book by Frodo.
But that would be kind of strange.. It would me better (in my opinion) that the narration of 'The Hobbit' would be the first time Frodo hears the story... At the end of Lotr Frodo has heard the story (the Hobbit) a million times and it isn't new to him anymore. Bilbo even tells the little (Jackson) kids the story, so Frodo must've heard it before. There wouldn't be much excitement...
So wouldn't it make more sense that Bilbo is telling the story to (a younger) Frodo? Not reading it from his/a book? Frodo would be in awe of the awesomeness of the story...
A bit too much complaining, yes // [In reply to] Can't Post
The impression I got [In reply to] Can't Post
was that Frodo is reading the Red Book in Bag End, towards the end of The Return of the King. This would mean that the bookend scenes featuring Frodo chronologically take place after 99% of the events depicted in The Lord of the Rings have already occurred, which effectively makes them sequels to the trilogy. The little-used term for a new story taking place partway through an already-published one is 'interquel' � I don't much like the word, and since The Hobbit will be bookended by scenes which occur almost at the end of LotR (as opposed to, say, halfway through it), I thought the term 'sequel' was more fitting.
Since Frodo is back, Strider should make an appearance as well. // [In reply to] Can't Post
Boromir too // [In reply to] Can't Post
If you think this is bad.... [In reply to] Can't Post
...just wait until it finally comes out.
"The ring cannot be destroyed, Gimli, son of Gloin, by any craft that we here possess. The ring was made in the fires of Mount Doom. Only there can it be unmade. The ring must be taken deep into Mordor and cast back into the fiery chasm from whence it came. One of you must do this."
I wonder how are they going to get Lurtz in there? / [In reply to] Can't Post
In my crystal ball [In reply to] Can't Post
<Looking through crystal ball>
HOW DARE PJ REMOVE THE TALKING PURSE!!!!
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DarthNeeson
What I'm More Concerned About... [In reply to] Can't Post
Christopher Lee.
Saruman would have to play a crucial role in all of these White Council meetings, setting the stage for his turn to evil. Now, given Lee's feelings about his exclusion from ROTK and his age, the last I heard was he couldn't travel all the way to New Zealand any more. That doesn't mean they couldn't set him in front of a blue screen in London and finish all his scenes in a few days. If Radagast is in, he must be as well. But will they cast a new actor or finally convince him to come back to Middle Earth?
As for Frodo, I am leary, but I trust Peter.
Or else... [In reply to] Can't Post
HOW DARE PJ LEAVE IN THE TALKING PURSE!!!!
Christopher Lee would love to play Saruman in The Hobbit [In reply to] Can't Post
as long as his parts can be filmed in London. He said so himself in an interview with IGN. I'd be over the moon if we got him back, but at this stage I'd settle for Frank Langella. As long as they don't try to 'write around' Saruman � that would be a terrible mistake and would cause a whole plethora of missed opportunities.
Voronw�_the_Faithful
I think he was being tongue in cheek [In reply to] Can't Post
I could be wrong, but my interpretation of geordie's post was that he was somewhat jokingly referring to the fact that he expected all along that the films wouldn't be any more faithful to the source (or enjoyable) than he found Jackson's LotR films. I doubt that he was genuinely expressing any real disappointment with this news beyond his already low expectations.
But of course I could be wrong.
'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'
www.arda-reconstructed.com
petesimac
I trust Pete! [In reply to] Can't Post
If we learned anything about Pete during the LOTR trilogy, it was that he (and co.) can write a good story. While I love the LOTR book, I think the films present a better story, mostly because it combines parts of other Tolkein writings. Pete left out much from the LOTR, but nothing was left out in the end; lines from deleted characters were given to others, etc, and so much was added in from other Tolkein sources. I adore the LOTR trilogy and consider myself part of the fellowship thanks, in no small part, to the "making of" sequences in the extended additions. I trust Pete to do the job well.
As for The Hobbit, my desire has always been to have Bilbo (Holm) narrate the story, beginning with him (before the LOTR) telling his tale to a young Frodo, and perhaps Sam and others as well. Perhaps Holm was simply unable to do so, and as a result the idea of Frodo telling the tale came to pass. The timing is tricky, to be sure, but I think we can trust Pete to get it right. Pete has always maintained that he wants The Hobbit to be able to stand on it's own, and I think it will. Don't you remember how painstakingly Pete went through the trilogy, making sure it made sense, that the story flowed? Don't you recall how some ideas were tried before Pete realized it wouldn't work that way, so they tried something else? Remember Arwen at Helms Deep? There were countless ideas that, in the end, didn't pass muster with Pete (and co.), and I'm sure if the Frodo idea doesn't pan out, Pete will change it.
To me, the best idea (knowing so little of Pete's thinking) would be to have Frodo reading the newly finished book in Rivendale. Then the line that "our journey didn't turn out like Bilbo's" or something to that effect which Frodo says to Sam in Rivendale takes on new meaning. Or, perhaps it will just be Elijah Wood narrating the film (as Frodo or not); those who have not seen the LOTR certainly wouldn't know any better. In the end, it's all conjecture. Many would have (and probably did) moaned and groaned about the "murder" (lol) of Tom Bombadil (sp?) in the LOTR; but in the end, all was well, and all was great, and we have a film(s) for the ages. Let me repeat, I trust Pete!
We see a flashback where Lurtz attacks Itaril... // [In reply to] Can't Post
For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much -- the wheel, New York, wars, and so on -- while all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man, for precisely the same reasons. -- Douglas Adams
RosieLass
Well, if we're allowed only to agree with everything... [In reply to] Can't Post
...what's the point of calling it "discussion"?
It is always those with the fewest sensible things to say who make the loudest noise in saying them. --Precious Ramotswe (Alexander McCall Smith)
sorry [In reply to] Can't Post
- sorry, Dormouse - and al those of my friends who expressed concern. But this is too much. This really took me off guard. The thought of that foul-mouthed young man* in another movie with a link to Tolkien is more than I can stomach. In fact, I've gone right off the idea of the movies altogether.
I'm off - I've enjoyed my short stay here on ToRn. I wish you all the best. Bye.
*I shan't go into details, because this is a family-friendly site. Those who've been around as long as I have will know what I mean.
Lord Maegmoth
Quite Intriguing [In reply to] Can't Post
Not quite certain how to react to this, certainly not against it, but neither unreservedly for it. I believe that execution would be the key, and the extent to which Frodo shall occupy screen time. Ultimately, I can't really be assured of the viability of inserting Frodo into TH until I actually view the final product, therefore I shall adopt the 'cautiously optimistic' stance for the time being. Intriguing times.
Now I await, with bated breath, the announcement of the return of Sir Christopher Lee. Hopefully one shall be forthcoming within the next couple of weeks.
Rivendweller
" the most famousest of hobbits " [In reply to] Can't Post
was actually Frodo so why not have him narrate , or at least introduce the beginning of Bilbo's tale ?
I agree, I am fine with this and I've missed " the boys ", so I'd love to see them all sitting around Bag End's fireplace, with Sam's children on his lap as Frodo begins the tale...
There's something of everything here, The Shire and the Golden Wood and Gondor and kings' houses and inns and meadows and mountains all mixed.
....and there are Elves when you want them.
Formerly A'amel from days gone by.
Elentari03
Right. [In reply to] Can't Post
Some people have concerns about how Frodo would logically fit into the story. Expressing concern is not whining. Are we to just go ahead and agree to whatever changes the studio makes without any discussion of the positives and negatives? That seems rather silly.
Well... goodbye geordie. [In reply to] Can't Post
That was strange.
I have been supportive of casting Legolas in The Hobbit, provided he does not kill Smaug, because he would have been alive at the time and likely present in Mirkwood.
Frodo's inclusion makes me slightly more concerned about the story, but I hope the filmmakers keep his presence to a minimum and only put him in as a narrator or something along those lines. Until we see the final product it is impossible to know how this will play out. "Cautiously optimistic" was a good way of putting it.
Shireling
Relieved! [In reply to] Can't Post
This is the news I've been waiting for!! I'm so relieved they've found a way to bring Frodo into 'The Hobbit':)
That is by no means what I'm saying [In reply to] Can't Post
The point is, it doesn't matter what bit of news has been released...I come on here and 80% of the comments are negative, complaining, or sarcastic remarks about how the filmmakers' only real desire is to destroy this story.
I wish there was a positive discussion thread sometimes.
Lindele.. [In reply to] Can't Post
Let me introduce you to a sweet lady named Grammaboodawg...
Alex Maglor
GREAT [In reply to] Can't Post
Excellent IDEA!!
Una idea fant�stica poder volver a ver a Frodo y compa�ia, al menos como elementos introductorios en THE HOBBIT.
Ah, the youth of today... [In reply to] Can't Post
I am in his generation, so I must admit I chuckled a bit-- my mouth can be vicious at times. Different times, and a different class- he is from Hollywood, after all, and I know enough in the industry to know that their mouths can be real icky!
Best of luck in your travels, geordie. I enjoyed reading your posts, different opinion or no :) Please stop by anytime! Perhaps another board where talks of the Hobbit are not so rife? :) *hug*
Must... resist... fangirl.. urge... to agree... seriously... // [In reply to] Can't Post
Seamless transition... [In reply to] Can't Post
So I just had a thought of how they could do the Hobbit-to-LOTR transition. At the beginning of the first Hobbit movie a young Frodo (Elijah looks perpetually young so he'll be fine) sneaks "the Red Book" out of Bilbo's study and starts reading it bringing us into the world of The Hobbit adventure. Maybe we see Frodo reading it a few more times between then and the end of the 2nd movie. But the end of the second movie should come out of "The Hobbit" story to show Frodo finishing reading The Hobbit in the Red Book while sitting under a tree, effectively ending his narraration - and the camera pans out and Frodo hears Gandalf's singing - and we realize that the famous opening shot of Fellowship of Frodo reading under a tree was actually him reading The Hobbit?
Yes? Fine... I won't quit my day job...
It's only going to get worse :) [In reply to] Can't Post
I wasn't here during 2001-2003, but man, I've heard stories!
Fans will never agree with one another about anything, and complaints *do* tend to stand out the loudest. More people take time to write out grievances than joys, at least if online reviews are to be believed.
Just sit back and enjoy the ride, and don't take any of it too seriously-- certainly not seriously enough to shout ;)
E�rwen Swan Maiden Of Alqualond�
I have to be honest [In reply to] Can't Post
I really can't find any way to be upset at this. It just makes me feel all warm and happy inside. And I am someone who read all the books first, many times, starting in early childhood, and had a very strong attachment and respect for all things Tolkien long before the movies appeared. But this just feels right to me.
You are correct, sir! [In reply to] Can't Post
I love the books AND the movies! While it's fair to say that I found some of the changes in LOTR jarring, I was never offended by them as some folks seem to be. I have a distinct memory of seeing FOTR for the first time and thinking, "Boy, they got out of the Shire awful fast," but upon repeated viewings of the film, I came to understand the logic of compressing the time-frame of the early chapters. I've written stage adaptations of literary works, and even though I have to make changes to fit the constraints of a different medium, I always do it with the utmost affection for the original source material. I think it's clear if one listens to the DVD commentary tracks that Peter, Fran, and Phiippa feel the same way. I MAINTAIN THAT ONE CAN BE A "PURIST" AND STILL LOVE THE FILMS!! I am, I do, and I am confident that come December 2012, I will!!
moreorless
What I thought from the start... [In reply to] Can't Post
As soon as the rumours of the film being made started to appear the Red Book being read as a framing device by an old Bilbo/Frodo/Sam was the first thing I thought of.
Looking to bring back LOTR characters is one way to look at it but another is as you say to allow for a more direct adaptation of the Hobbit with a marked change in tone from LOTR. By altering the presentation of the films you can also alter the audiences expectations, no longer are they seeing the direct gritter view of ME from LOTR but rather a single Hobbits perspective of it.
Mithrand�r
Great narrating [In reply to] Can't Post
I think Frodo being a kind of narrator in the start and perhaps one or two times during the plot, for instance changing the perspective to gandalvs part in the events taking place during bilbos adventure, the white council, the necromancer etc, will work really really well!
Imo it's keeping with Tolkien, it's necessary to link the hobbit film with the lotr, and this handle is as good as any other imo. PJ has said before that he views the hobbit and lotr as a continuous story in movie terms. anyway, if the frodo-news is true there is little point disagreeing, seeing as it's gonna happen anyway.
Social Science's biggest problem, is social science.
"The ring has awoken. It's heard its masters call"
I think that statement was taken out of context. [In reply to] Can't Post
This is what Guillermo had to say on the subject back around the time when he first started posting here:
I have read Moorcock, Clark Ashton Smith, Lord Dunsany, Lloyd Alexander, Fritz Leiber and a few others. At the age of 11 I read THE HOBBIT and it enchanted me as only a classic Fairy Tale can- it had enough darkness and dread and emotion to make a profound impression that lasted me until now. Beorn, Mirkwood, the Wargs, Smaug, the Riddles in the Dark, they all have lived in me for many years...
Nevertheless at that early age, the rest of Tolkien proved to contain Geography and Genealogy too complex for my prepubescent brain...
As if he grasped an existing universe outside our Platonic cave, Tolkien channels an entire world, weaving expertly from myth and lore. The oustanding virtue is that all this scholarly erudition doesn't reduce his tales to mere Taxidermy. He achieves an Alchemy all of his own: he writes new life in the freshly sculpted clay of his creatures.
I have, through the years become familiar with the very roots of Tolkien's myths and the roots of Fafhrd or Elric or Hyperborea and many a time I have relished the intricate ways in which demonic wolves, shape-shifter and spindly-limbed pale warriors can be woven into those many tales that become, at the end, the single tale, the single saga- that of what is immortal in us all.
In creating Pan's Labyrinth I drank deep of the most rigid form of Fairy Lore and tried to contextualize the main recurrent motifs in an instinctive rhyme between the world of fantasy and the delusions of War and Politics (the grown man's way of playing make-believe) and in re-reading THE HOBBIT just recently I was quite moved by discovering, through Bilbo's eyes the illusory nature of possession, the sins of hoarding and the banality of war- whether in the Western Front or at a Valley in Middle Earth. Lonely is the mountain indeed.
http://newboards.theonering.net/...forum.cgi?post=92296
Reading him talk about Tolkien's work so enthusiastically makes me doubtful of that single statement he made in that interview several years ago, when he said that he hated hairy feet or something like that. To be honest, I'd be even more inclined to trust del Toro with Tolkien's work than I would be to trust Jackson.
without even reading ... [In reply to] Can't Post
I was hoping for less LOTR reunions. First Legolas and now Frodo. Saruman would be the one logical choice, yet we got more Radagast evidently.
Was he even born at the time of the Hobbit ? He was 33 when Bilbo was having his 111th birthday, minus 60 years between LOTR and the Hobbit...
KingofAncients
Frank Langella as Saruman.... [In reply to] Can't Post
Flagg I have to admit that I didn't know who this "Frank Langella" you mentioned was, call me uncivilized or uncultured or whatever you like but, at any rate I decided to check him out on youtube.
WOW! I agree with you 100% if someone is going to replace the legendary Christopher Lee as Saruman I am now convinced it must be Frank Langella! Not only is his voice superb (and eerily similar to Lee's) but, he actually LOOKS like him too! That's craziness. You have made a believer of me, just throw Saruman prosthetics on him and we're good to hook for a more vibrant/active/less evil Saruman who helps kick Necromancer @$$ in these two films!
"Stout men and lordly they are, and the Riders of Rohan look almost as boys beside them; for they are grim men of face, worn like weathered rocks for the most part, even as Aragorn himself; and they are silent."
Hear hear! [In reply to] Can't Post
No, he was nor born [In reply to] Can't Post
But as the post said... he would not be around at the time of Bilbo's adventure. Someone mentioned "Princess Bride", and while I doubt it will be exactly like Princess Bride, I can imagine it being something like that.
It would certainly fit the Hobbit's lighter tone, being told from the point of view of Bilbo with Frodo listening, substituting Tolkien's unnamed, fourth-wall-breaking narrative voice and the reader.
It wasn't my idea [In reply to] Can't Post
We've been talking about the possibility of Frank Langella playing Saruman for a good while now, and I sort of took it for granted that everyone would know who I was talking about. I think duats was the first one who came up with the idea, but I'm not completely certain.
Langella [In reply to] Can't Post
Some months ago I thought no, absolutely not. But as I have sort of given up on the hopes of sir C reprising Saruman, this Langella fellow looks like an OK replacement. It will never be as good as the original, but it should work.
Lindele [In reply to] Can't Post
I think both you and RosieLass has fair points.
Financial gain first? [In reply to] Can't Post
I'm sorry, I don't see that at all.
Clearly the films have to make money, there's no question about that. The studios would not bother were that not the case.
Watching all the appendices on the EE editions many times, though, there are few, if any people involved in making those films who I feel were putting financial gain first. The overriding impression I get from everyone, from the writers, art design, WETA, music, actors, everyone, was the love of the project, and of Tolkien.
The Hobbit and LOTR are inextricably linked. Not just in the ring, Gollum, Gandalf and so on, but the White council, and even the importance of Smaug not becoming a weapon for Sauron, these and many other events tie the two books, and the two sets of films together.
It would have been wonderful if Jackson could have made the Hobbit and then gone on to LOTR. He didn't, but I see no problem in him in tweaking things slightly to make the progression from one set of films to the other a little easier, as if he had done that.
Captain Salt
Agree with duats... [In reply to] Can't Post
This just seems like a bad move to cash-in on the success of the original trilogy, (a lot like how Christopher Nolan's third Batman will now be called "The Dark Knight Rises"), for obvious reasons. Very disappointed with this news...
Samuel L. Jackson for Bilbo, Woody Allen for Thorin, Lewis Black for Bard and Gilbert Gottfried for Smaug!
MAKE IT HAPPEN, PETER!!!
Red Book reading [In reply to] Can't Post
Flagg, there is no reason why Frodo could not be reading the Red book prior to the events of LOTR, is there? He could even be reading an early version of the book, before Bilbo adds the finishing touches?
Lee as Saruman [In reply to] Can't Post
Some way of including Chris Lee is my biggest hope, assuming McKellan and Serkis join, naturally.
I suspect Lee might be amenable if some blue screen work could be done. He is a huge Tolkien fan, and I think adding to his body of work as the Definitive Saruman might appeal to him.
DrDeath153
As good a way as any [In reply to] Can't Post
While i'm not enamoured with the idea of framing The Hobbit within the strict bounds of the existing Lord of the Rings films, which i would have preferred them to build up to on their own terms- consistent with and exploring events within the timeline only revealed in the latter book but nevertheless standing well enough alone, the 'let me tell you a story' format has always been on the cards and to be fair will likely work well enough. It's also a far better way of featuring LotR cast cameos than compressing the timeline by half a century (that said, given the existing compression i consider it entirely possible to show Aragorn and Arwen's first meeting within the narrative of the Hobbit).
So yeah, basically i'm non-plussed about it all. If that turned out to be the film's biggest sin then we could all breathe a sign of relief.
No conclusive reason. [In reply to] Can't Post
I got the impression that the bookend scenes would be set towards the end of Return of the King, around the scene where Frodo is writing in the Red Book in his study in Bag End. The earlier they set the scene, the harder it will be to make Elijah Wood look the right age. I suppose they could set the scenes before Lord of the Rings if they really wanted to, but for the purposes of my speculations I assumed that the scenes would be after Frodo's quest.
I like it!! [In reply to] Can't Post
Wow! Great idea! I think that could work! Man, I'm excited!
No probs [In reply to] Can't Post
It just seems to me that Frodo reading that book could theoretically occur anytime between Bilbo adopting him and the Grey Havens, although clearly Frodo is too young for Wood to play him at the start of that time.
A mechanism that could be used, were the timeframe for the reading to be set, say 15 years before FOTR, might allow us to see other events we know happened, and the brief introduction of other characters or story fills. That sort of thing really would not surprise me.
(This post was edited by Bran on Jan 7 2011, 6:07pm)
LoremIpsum
Great news if true [In reply to] Can't Post
I have no problem with this at all, especially if we get to see Ian Holm in there too (hopefully)
Not so much positive or negative, [In reply to] Can't Post
to me at least, most comments seem sideways or neutral around here. With every bit of confirmed news -- regardless of what may have been said when an item was just rumoured -- the general consensus defaults to "we trust the film makers/writers." Again to me, this indicates that most everyone here does in fact want these films to be made. (One might add, "at any cost" but that is an over simplification of our collective true feelings on the matter. A fandom we are and a fandom we shall remain.)
For instance, the idea that the films would be structured as if read from a book (Bilbo's book) was first floated here when the bridge film concept was still on the table. IIRC Guillermo himself participated in a thread where that was being discussed (though hovering at the edge of actually spilling the beans, as was his way). At the time there seemed to be general agreement that this was an acceptable, if not desirable, approach to bringing in some characters from LOTR that are not mentioned (which is not the same as did not exist) in The Hobbit and/or the period between the two tales.
As for the joking around that goes on here (such as my recent comment: "Itaril of the Ewok Realm"), for the most part, it is not intended to be negative. It is a way of celebrating our shared interests.
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(This post was edited by SirDennisC on Jan 7 2011, 6:16pm)
Agreed [In reply to] Can't Post
but not simply because of the age issue...
The period between Frodo and co's return to the Shire and Frodo's departure to Valinor (about 4 years at the end of ROTK) seems the most likely place for the Red Book of the Westmarch to be visited; a time when Frodo would be writing about his adventures, at times reading what Bilbo wrote, and at times connecting the dots between the two tales and filling in the gaps.
Alternately they might go beyond that time and incorporate what Sam wrote and of (correct me if I'm wrong) Aragorn's death and Legolas and Gimli's departure for Valinor. Of the two approaches I favour the first, even more so than the idea of Bilbo spinning his tale of "The Hobbit" in a time just before LOTR, or at Rivendell.
Sorry. [In reply to] Can't Post
I'm just tetchy about it.
The TORN boards are great, but there was a time back during the years the LOTR films were being made and released when I stopped visiting for a long time because there was a loudmouthed minority who made it very clear that any dissenting opinion was unwelcome, and I got tired of being told to shut up and go away any time I expressed any disappointment over anything Peter Jackson did.
Jettorex
What happens to.... [In reply to] Can't Post
"In a hole in the ground there lived a Hobbit" beginning to the Hobbit Movie? Is that off the table now? or will Frodo now say these words?
I always thought that it would be a great way to start the movie, just like the book.
- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
Especially since... [In reply to] Can't Post
...the whole series ends with Sam's "Well, I'm back."
The Party Tree
I knew as soon as they started announcing cameos that I'd get addicted.// [In reply to] Can't Post
That depends [In reply to] Can't Post
Did Bilbo write his memoirs in the third person, beginning with 'In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit'? Or did he write them in the first person, leaving Tolkien (who discovered a copy of the Red Book) to translate his tale and rewrite it as a children's story?
But you forget [In reply to] Can't Post
It's actually 65 years (60 between TH and FOTR, the year of the War of the Ring, and 4 more years after the end of the War, to the last scene in Bag End. Unless they show Frodo reading from the almost-completed Red Book say, 3 after. )
MrCere, does the rumor say we are actually going to SEE Frodo onscreen in the opening scene of TH 1? If we merely hear him doing a voice-over, it presents far less problems. It would b easier for me to accept the occaisional voice-over during TH as well. Then, you are still in the dark about who this mysterious "narrator" is, and the existence of Frodo and the timeframe of the narrative/identity of the Narrator is gradually revealed as the story goes on. (at the beg. of FOTR the future viewer realizes, "Oh, so this is who it is! Frodo, son of Drogo and Primula, and Bilbo adopted him!" --it seems we are going to be seeing the tragic deaths of, or at least a Hobbiton scene of, Drogo and Primula).
This is the Problem: this is all a lot easier to believe if the future viewer is watching the EE's. But if they are watching the Theatricals, this won't make any sense at all. ""60 years later" at the beginning of FOTR, as we see Frodo under the tree? And we've just seen the Prologue which takes you 3000 years back in tim. I remember watching the Prologue in the theater the first time, and if I hadn't known the story well, I imagine that "60 yrs later" would have confuse me at first. 60 yrs after what? Oh, right, 60 yrs after Bilbo finds a ring in a cave. That Prologue was seemingly straightforward but really asked a lot of movie-firsters, I'm thinking. (I'd love to hear reactions from movie-firsters if the Prolgue confused you at all, the first time you saw it?)
You have to remember, that Peter is facing the same problem George Lucas faced with the SW prequels. Fans of now may grouse, but this is really being made for future generations, where they'll sit down and watch the Pentology in order. So if we hear Frodo as a narrator in TH long before we see him onscreen, it would work wonderfully. (Except the theatrical would present some problems--that "60 yrs later" would have to be removed--as well as Ian Holm not looking like Martin in that brief flash-back? forward? scene in the FOTR Prologue --OUCH MY POOR BRAIN )--
If WB is pressuring Peter into doing a sort of "Super-Prologue" to tie all this up for the movie-firster, when it really isn;t necessary, we're screwed. They have to have faith that it makes far more sense for the viewer to gradually find out who the narrator is, and the story would flow a lot better. OH God nightmare visions of Dune here*
But if the script calls for the audience to *see* Frodo in the very first scene of The Pentology, this would cause problems. How do you explain this character to the first-time movie-firster of the future? We see a mysterious scene of a hobbit reading a book he is writing in a house we don't know, yet, is Bag End. Is he alone, reading it as he writies it, as we later see Bilbo doing at the beginning of FOTR EE? Maybe that would work--if it's a brief teaser, just to get our curiosity piqued--if we are told nothing, If Frodo tells us nothing. IS Elijah really going to be reading the first pages word for word--"IN the hole in the groumd there lived a Hobbit?" etc. And when Gandlaf appears, he's say, "Gandalf! If you'd half of what I heard" etc.
Will he be reading to Elanor maybe? That would be a problem, since we'd only be able to see the back of Elanor's head, it being a miracle if they could find a 3-yr-old who looks exactly like 3-yr-old Alexandra did. (Although the aspect of the Saga having evolved, as Sam wished it, into a "fireside-tale for young Hobbits" is a charming one, if it is realized on the screen.It was hinted at at the end of TTT< in Sam's speech, just as it was in the book. That would be a nice evolving transition. )
Would we see Sam as well? Increasingly I think that Sean should narrate the darned thing, since "the very last pages were really his." I wish if Peter ever adds anything in the Ultimate Edition, it would be for a middle-aged or older Sean Astin handing the Red Book off to grown-up Alexandra, and hey, his other 2 grown kids, playing Goldilocks and Rosie-lass,etc--that woul be **absolutely enchanting**--I think they'd do it too! --not likely though--but hey a gal can dream can't she? )
(Ok Sunflower, you're going insane. Stop the madness now. )
Count on us fans to make a mountain out of a mol-hill-or in this case a Hobbit-hill. I'll bet Peter and Co and Guillermo (if he still reads this) are laughing their heads off. This is all probsbly hoo-hah, as HM says, over nothing.
(This post was edited by Sunflower on Jan 7 2011, 6:49pm)
That would be perfect. [In reply to] Can't Post
I always thought the point of having a narrator at all for TH would be so that this line could start off the movie.
I'm guessing.. [In reply to] Can't Post
I know Geordie seems to be leaving these forums.. and his last comments - if about Elijah Woods seem rather odd. Did you meet him in real life and was rude to you.. is this the origin of your hatred??
Knowledge of the ring [In reply to] Can't Post
Might have a part to play in this.
I suspect the film makers will not want to give away anything about the true nature of the ring in these films. That would potentially spoil the start of FOTR for future film goers unfamiliar with the story.
Doesn't that suggest that Frodo narrating the Hobbit from a time before FOTR makes more sense? When he, himself would not know what the ring was?
I agree, it seemed as a strange comment to make // [In reply to] Can't Post
Brandybuckled
Thanks! You just gave me an idea for my sig line! [In reply to] Can't Post
I never participated in the great NARF wars of the Fourth Age, but now I can be a NAArP'er
NAArP since 2011!
Both. [In reply to] Can't Post
I see both of those, followed by
U GUYZ ARNT REAL FANS REAL FANS WOUD ARGREE WITH ME I AM THE BIGEST LOTR FAN EVAR I SAW ALL THE MOVIES 3 TIMS!!!!!!!!!!
HOW DARE PJ LEAVE IN THE TALKING PURSE!!!
"Of all faces those of our familiares are the ones both most difficult to play fantastic tricks with, and most difficult really to see with fresh attention. They have become like the things which once attracted us by their glitter, or their colour, or their shape, and we laid hands on them, and then locked them in our hoard, acquired them, and acquiring ceased to look at them.
Creative fantasy, because it is mainly trying to do something else [make something new], may open your hoard and let all the locked things fly away like cage-birds. The gems all turn into flowers or flames, and you will be warned that all you had (or knew) was dangerous and potent, not really effectively chained, free and wild; no more yours than they were you." -On Fairy Stories
Who knows? [In reply to] Can't Post
I think it would be good to begin that way too, but if there's to be some sort of prologue-ey Frodo-reads-book opening then there is, and we might as well make the best of it for now - at least, that's the way I'm trying to look at it.
But if the cinema darkens and the titles go up and the first words we hear are "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit...", no matter who says them, I shall start watching with a big satisfied smile!
Lindele, I see your point. [In reply to] Can't Post
And I feel your pain. I don't know if this will help or not, but part of the reason every thread is peppered with complaints is that there are always many schools of thought on any issue concerning the books or the movies. This means that everyone is happy at some news and unhappy at other news. So when one group is happy, another group isn't, and vice versa. This means that while there are a few wet blankets around who apparently don't like anything at all, a lot of the complaining is spread around - different people complaining at different things. It helps somewhat to know the people as individuals, because then instead of a big group complaining en masse, you get to the point where you know that this person loves this idea and hates that one, but that person is the opposite, and that one over there can be trusted to bring up ______ at every opportunity. I don't know that it makes it less whiny, but at least it gives some variety to the chorus of moans.
If you're waiting for the news that makes everyone happy....I'm not sure we've ever heard it. Perhaps the announcement of Ian McKellan's signing will be the closest, though I'm sure there's someone who's secretly hoping he'll be out and someone else will be in, and they'll make sure to come and tell us so. It's just the nature of things in a place like this.
It's not a purse! It's a Middle Earthian carry-all!! [In reply to] Can't Post
As a purist (but not an ardent purist), I will be satisfied with nothing until I get to see the movie.
Until then I shall complain (but not ardently) about the tune in my head not being in the same key as the tune in TPTB's heads.
Or maybe Lurtz *is* Itaril! [In reply to] Can't Post
"She was an elf once, taken by the dark powers, tortured and mutilated. A ruined and terrible form..."
peleowyn
Wonderful news!! [In reply to] Can't Post
We were all so hoping to see all our friends again! Hooray!!
You're right about the McKellen announcement [In reply to] Can't Post
Even that won't totally satisfy everybody. I remember Gandalf'sMother saying that she (or he?) would like The Hobbit to get a new director, a new Saruman and a new Gandalf, but that's the only person as far as I'm aware.
*mods up* [In reply to] Can't Post
But hopes it doesn't come true.
Haha. Good one, Darkstone // [In reply to] Can't Post
I think [In reply to] Can't Post
I think maybe 99% of the fans (this is just my estimation) accepts Ian McKellen as Gandy. It may not have been their first choice, but he worked. Another estimation is that maybe 80 % loves Ian McKellen as Gandy (as myself). Like Silverlode I think this announcement is the closest we can get to a mutual Yay-feeling around here. Or a mutual Nay-feeling for that matter, if he does not reprise his role as Gandalf.
Well, I was hoping that everyone would be new, too. [In reply to] Can't Post
Not because I disliked McKellen's Gandalf, because I didn't. I thought he did a terrific job.
I was just hoping to see a different Middle-earth from a different director's perspective, just for variety's sake.
Maybe this is where they're moving the Trolls' purse. // [In reply to] Can't Post
(This post was edited by RosieLass on Jan 7 2011, 7:29pm)
I agree [In reply to] Can't Post
that it would be nice to get a different director and a different perspective on Middle-earth (there are several that I would have preferred to direct The Hobbit), but recasting iconic characters solely for the sake of mixing things up is just going too far in my view.
So they're making a troll's purse from an elf's ear? / [In reply to] Can't Post
Here's a thought [In reply to] Can't Post
What if they somehow tie Frodo into Gandalf The White's long talk with Tom Bombadil at the end of ROTK where Gandalf would tell the tale of how all this business of the ring started?
It is a gift. // [In reply to] Can't Post
I love the idea of working Bombadil in somehow [In reply to] Can't Post
If only they'd left the line in RotK where Gandalf says he's going off to meet him...
Maybe Frodo could narrate Bilbo's tale while sitting in Bag End and reading the Red Book, and Gandalf could narrate the adventures of the White Council while telling his parts of the story to Tom Bombadil?
Well, no. [In reply to] Can't Post
It would be silly for Peter Jackson to cast a different Gandalf.
But if we'd gotten a different producer and director, I would have wanted them to start with a clean slate and give us all new casting.
Guess I'll jump in [In reply to] Can't Post
I'm realizing, finally, that there's no way to get exactly what you want from these films even if you are the one making them. I had problems with the first films but I still enjoy them. I will have problems with the next films but I'm sure I'll enjoy them enough. As I've talked about before, I hope to see these films done again someday in my lifetime by a whole new team. Perhaps England based. Perhaps Scandinavian. Maybe a mix. I would ultimately like to see films that stay completely true to the source material and long for the day when 3D is looked back on and laughed at. I think I'd even be happy with a considerably smaller budget so you don't have the money men calling the shots and demanding that it have break dancing robots in it or whatever the soup du jour is at that time. Another idea is to have it done as a series on cable. I always think about how terrible the movie "Dune" was and how great the series on cable was. So I look forward to those possibilities and will get a decent amount of enjoyment out of whatever we get in the next couple of years. Welcome back Elijah.
Gives it to us in glorious 2D!
If you ask me, [In reply to] Can't Post
it doesn't make a lot of sense to have either Bilbo or Frodo say those words...at least not if they're going to follow it up with the comments about Hobbit Holes. But I can easily hear Gandalf saying it. In fact, I could hear Gandalf saying nearly all the narrator's lines. It will be interesting to see what they actually do. The Galadriel-narrated opening to FOTR was a surprise to me, but I loved it even though I'd been secretly hoping for the Ring Verse, which we never got at all.
(This post was edited by Silverlode on Jan 7 2011, 7:41pm)
LOL! [In reply to] Can't Post
The typos are a nice touch!
How the heck must these movies then be viewed in future? [In reply to] Can't Post
I don't know, this news sounds problematic, just purely from a viewing point of view.
If it is just a narration, or if the end of The Hobbit is a transition to FOTR with Frodo reading the book, that would work fine.
However, it sounds like this movie will open with Frodo. Depending when the book is read, how the heck is the pentology supposed to be viewed by future audiences? For example, will they play FOTR and TTT, start up ROTK, switch it off halfway wherever the book is read, then jump to the Hobbit movies as a flashback story, after that jump back to the ROTK and view the remainder of that movie? That will be horribly cumbersome, and an awkward way for future fans to view the series.
Why not a linear story? A future viewer should be able to start the series with The Hobbit without first having viewing the LOTR. The Hobbit can then seamlessly transition to the LOTR trilogy and voila! the pentology can be viewed chronologically in a straightforward pattern. And I think that the opening to FOTR would work, as it is a brief flashback fleshing out the mythology and will compliment the story, rather than 2 whole flashback movies.
Hopefully it will be limited to a narration, but from the spoiler it looks like this thing is going to be some stupid flashback in the middle of the LOTR trilogy . Not to mention I hate movies which are pointless in story in a story (i.e. as opposed to narration, the story really revolves around our protagonist having some dream / reading a book / etc, and ends when he him wakes up, or walks out the shower, or some such rubbish).
What you are talking about sounds like a reboot [In reply to] Can't Post
and that's the last thing I want. The Hobbit films should be prequels to the Lord of the Rings ones, and should maintain a strong sense of continuity with them. I think very few people would be happy if the director (Peter Jackson or anyone else) decided to throw out the trilogy and just start from scratch. That would only make sense if the trilogy was a huge critical and/or commercial failure � a good example would be the appalling Batman & Robin, which was rebooted into the excellent Batman Begins, complete with a new director and an all-new cast.
Two points [In reply to] Can't Post
Perhaps Jackson will re-edit the pentalogy into chronological order for the Ultimate Edition? The Hobbit bookends and flashbacks would be placed at whatever point they occur in the story (presumably somewhere amongst RotK's multiple endings). I think it could work.
The Red Book of Westmarch which Frodo is reading is actually Bilbo's memoirs, not a fictional book within the film or anything like that. The framing device is just a way to present a flashback. It's not going to be a metafictional dream sequence or anything like that!
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Yes he did change his mind [In reply to] Can't Post
and he made that statement on TORN. You can find that post through the board's search function.
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Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."
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Ataahua's stories
I like the idea [In reply to] Can't Post
of Tolkien's work passing into the public domain and joining such classic, near-mythological stories as Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, Sherlock Holmes, The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, The War of the Worlds, the Lovecraft mythos and so on. That would allow everyone to do whatever they like with the stories and adapt them in as many ways as they can imagine. What I don't like is the idea of Warners just going ahead and producing a remake of any of Jackson's films ten or twenty years from now. I don't want to see another version until the copyright has expired and Tolkien's legendarium becomes the property of humanity as a whole � just like any other self-respecting mythology!
So it takes Frodo [In reply to] Can't Post
to draw you out of lurkerdom, hmmm? *makes note*
Nice to see you here Swan Maiden. :)
Middle-earth I: The Phantom Hobbit [In reply to] Can't Post
I concluded some time ago, that the Hobbit would be best served if it were neither prequel nor sequel but dealt with as a worthy story onto itself. Now it appears that it will be turned into a cast reunion film in an attempt to protect the half billion dollar investment. This is very disappointing.
I'm just glad they won't swap Gollum with Jar-Jar. // [In reply to] Can't Post
Eruonen
My guess is that we could possibly see Ian Holm telling Wood [In reply to] Can't Post
about his youthful adventures (sometime before the LOTR) and then the movie cuts away.....
You said it, Macfalk... [In reply to] Can't Post
Jar-Jar is my least favorite non-villain character in all of moviedom.
I always envisioned Gandalf/Ian saying these lines (In a hole in the ground...)to open the beginning of The Hobitt movie as the first shot zeroes in on Bilbo's front door. I don't see how they could possibly have this saying now that Frodo is going to be in it as some sort of introduction to the movie/story in flashback?
BTW-I totally have the same feeling with you on the Galadriel opening to LOTR. I always thought they should have had the Ring Verse, either spoken or text (on the screen) as one of the first things as LOTR starts.
Boromir as the first ghost of Yules past.// [In reply to] Can't Post
That's exactly what I wanted. [In reply to] Can't Post
And I daresay some of the film purists would have been unhappy at first, but if it was done well, why couldn't it work?
I'm not as sold on the concept of The Hobbit being a "prequel" to LOTR anyway. It is a separate book, and it can stand on its own merits. It doesn't need to ride LOTR's coattails to be successful.
(Does anyone notice that I'm using the same arguments always given for why movie-LOTR could take liberties with book-LOTR and still be good? Hmmm??? )
What makes you so certain? [In reply to] Can't Post
Wezza needs the precious!
(This post was edited by Kangi Ska on Jan 7 2011, 8:45pm)
Audiences don't want excellent series to be rebooted. [In reply to] Can't Post
And that's what Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings is � an excellent series. There's no reason to alienate everyone who liked the trilogy (read: a lot of people) by disconnecting it from The Hobbit. Why should they deliberately reboot the series and give us a different-looking Bilbo, Gandalf, Shire, Rivendell, Dwarves, Elves, hobbits, orcs, trolls etc when all these characters looked perfect in the trilogy? It's not just 'film purists' (whatever that means) who would dislike this move: it's practically everyone outside of a very small purist minority.
I don't think I ever said that The Hobbit wasn't good enough to work as a stand-alone film. It does not 'need to ride LotR's coat-tails to be successful', but I see no reason to attempt the sort of segregation of the pentalogy that you're suggesting.
Drogo and Primula [In reply to] Can't Post
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the potential ramifications of having Frodo in some way involved in the films (even as a narrator) and having his parents, Drogo and Primula apparently also involved in some way. I find it hard to believe that the two things will be completely unconnected.
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Everyone? Who is this "everyone"? [In reply to] Can't Post
"Everyone who loved Peter Jackson's LOTR" maybe.
But what about those of us who only "liked" it? Or those who actively disliked it? Or those who haven't seen it and don't care what it was about but might be interested in a movie based on another great book by a great author?
Or, heck, the people who just like to see movies for the filmcraft?
I appreciate your point of view, Flagg, but I think you're presuming too much to speak for "everyone" or even to claim that you're the vast majority.
I don't think I'm being unreasonable. [In reply to] Can't Post
As I'm sure you're aware, Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings films were released to great critical acclaim and commercial success, breaking box-office records, winning many prestigious awards and satisfying most fans of Tolkien's work.
I don't see why those that only 'liked' them would want The Hobbit to be reboot, set in a new continuity and with all-new actors. The same goes for those who haven't seen The Lord of the Rings, those who don't care about it, those who are mildly curious about an adaptation of a Tolkien book or those who appreciate good filmmaking. The only people who really want the series to be rebooted are those who disliked or hated the Peter Jackson films, and I suspect that they are a very small (albeit vocal) minority when compared to the masses who would be satisfied with a simple cohesive series taking place in one continuity.
(This post was edited by Flagg on Jan 7 2011, 9:18pm)
I'm sorry but [In reply to] Can't Post
This is simply a full load of hog wash. If you think PJ cares not about the works and is only concerned about financial gain you are simply lost in the woods friend. It's ludicrous.
Yes that occured [In reply to] Can't Post
to me after posting, and likely it occurred to others in this thread who think situating the tale near the end of ROTK is the way to go.
Statements have been made to the effect that when all is said and done TH and LOTR could be viewed as a continuous narrative in future. But I do not think that was meant to imply that the movies would be best viewed in the order the books were written or in a linear manner. It may be that the preferred order will be to view the original film (ie LOTR) followed by the prequel (ie TH) which is sometimes the case (for example Hannibal followed by Hannibal Rising or as seems to be the case with the two Star Wars trilogies).
This mirrors the way we experience many great stories... we happen upon a tale such as Tennyson's Idylls of the King and then seek out its source Le morte d'Arthur. I wonder how many LOTR fans read The Lord of the Rings after seeing the movies and then delved further back to The Hobbit and then perhaps even Beowulf?
But you raise a fair concern if this is the approach they (being them) adopt. Certainly the treatment of knowledge of the Ring would be a tricky element but not really a deal breaker. How often do we slip into nostalgia, fondly embracing a time when our understanding was simpler or our world view less jaded?
Yes it looks as if the Bridge Film is being reborn as a Wrapper for the Hobbit. [In reply to] Can't Post
I almost expect the farm hand scene from the end of the Wizard of Oz to be re-imaged. Gandalf, Aragorn and Gollem look down at Frodo regaining consciousness lying on the tarmac in front of The Green Dragon.
"You were there and so were you and you. There is no place like the Shire!"
I mentioned it, Voronwe [In reply to] Can't Post
See my post above.
I sincerely hope that we see them in a blink-and-you'll-miss-it shot of them holding baby Frodo, a la Bail Organa and his wife holding and smiling down at baby Leia,...but please God NOT a macabre re-enactment of them being "drownded". We don't need to see that. Bilbo already tells us that they died at the Party. We don't need to know how. Though knowing Peter that's just the sort of grisly thing he'd love to focus upon. But I don't want to see it, no thanks. Not even if it was indeed "Drogo's weight as sunk the boat"--that might sound humurous in print, but it's not amusing on the screen at all.
silneldor
You always make good sense Flagg [In reply to] Can't Post
and i feel the same way about Sam. If it cannot be Bilbo because of Sir Ian, it should be Sam's telling of the story to his kids. The time framing would feel much better as you say.
In one sense it does pulls on the heart that Frodo did after all traveled west across the sea and it would have been comforting to have him contribute such history to the shirefolk old and new. But it would have been very endearing to have Sam with all his children around him, even later in life. Perhaps they are using Frodo/Elijah because he is prettier lol.
Your Gandalf idea makes just as much sense.
''Sam put his ragged orc-cloak under his master's head, and covered them both with the grey robe of Lorien; and as he did so his thoughts went out to that fair land, and to the Elves, and he hoped that the cloth woven by their hands might have some virtue to keep them hidden beyond all hope in this wilderness of fear...But their luck held, and for the rest of that day they met no living or moving thing; and when night fell they vanished into the darkess of Mordor.'' - - -rotk, chapter III
May the grace of Manw� let us soar with eagle's wings!
In the air, among the clouds in the sky
Here is where the birds of Manwe fly
Looking at the land, and the water that flows
The true beauty of earth shows
With the stars of Varda lighting my way
In all the realms this is where I stay
In the realm of Manw� S�limo
Just to add -- already looking forward to [In reply to] Can't Post
dissecting the scene where we shift from Bag End as we left it to Bag End as it might have been at the beginning of The Hobbit.
With his patented weird angles and everything [In reply to] Can't Post
welcome back Sunflower.
I wonder how much GDT is really still involved in the script writing. [In reply to] Can't Post
-If at all anymore.
Haha [In reply to] Can't Post
I can tell you are just joking because you like the idea of Itaril... there's no way you're getting all negative about Frodo being included in TH. Right?
Thanks, silneldor � I appreciate it. // [In reply to] Can't Post
The script should be very close to completion by now [In reply to] Can't Post
All of the important writing decisions will have been made during the early days, when Guillermo was still in charge.
Most likely true, [In reply to] Can't Post
but how far down the rewrite chain does one finally say, yeaaah...maybe you should take my name off that, it's to far removed from where I wanted to go.
I think this whole approach is new. [In reply to] Can't Post
It really does not sound like the Guillermo del Toro i know and love. It also rubs against a lot of what was said earlier about the layout of the Hobbit films.
Going out on a limb here [In reply to] Can't Post
but this seems to be just the kind of brilliant approach GDT would come up with. Just saying...
Not necessarily so. 3-D is a big for instance.// [In reply to] Can't Post
I'm not saying I mind... [In reply to] Can't Post
I'm just saying that GDT's vision would most likely have been different from PJ's take on some things.
I would beg to differ. [In reply to] Can't Post
This is exactly the opposite. It is much more like pandering to the studio's desires, and we all know how GdT feels about that.
Not new [In reply to] Can't Post
Assuming that Mr. C knows what he is talking about (and I have never doubted that to be the case; quite the contrary) this is something that was in the works back when the four writers were writing the scripts. He says:
Rumors have suggested Wood is "in talks" to appear in the film but that isn't an issue as it very likely the role was discussed with the actor at the scripting phase of the films and he was agreeable to reprise his part then.
There is no way that this can be interpreted any way other than that this was the plan when the scripts were originally submitted, long before GdT left the project. Of course, we have no way of knowing (or at least Mr. C has not revealed) whether it was Jackson's idea, or GdT's (or FW's or PB, for that matter), but it is clear that all the writers signed off on it, including GdT
It may have escaped my attention [In reply to] Can't Post
but while it appeared that GDT wanted to remain true to The Hobbit proper, it did not seem like he was opposed to the idea of book-ending (or even peppering) it with elements from LOTR or the space/time between them. But maybe my read of his intentions -- someone I only "know" through this forum (if that even counts) and his commentaries -- is wide of the mark? Hence "going out on a limb."
Come to think of it, it is not entirely fair to say this is pandering to "the studio's desires." Even I am torn between seeing The Hobbit and seeing as many LOTR characters again as possible (and I should know better lol). Maybe that's why we call this place TORn?
Altaira
Please take this to PM if you must continue [In reply to] Can't Post
RosieLass is entitled to her opinion whether you agree with it or not. I'm sure she's not alone, and it doesn't take two, or two thousand, other people to make it valid.
Either way, please take this to PM if you want to continue, as you've both stated the same points several times now.
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True dat [In reply to] Can't Post
I can't wait for the book G is free to write (and said he might write) after his NDA wears off.
NDA? [In reply to] Can't Post
Guessing Non-disclosure agreement. [In reply to] Can't Post
No wonder she wouldn't take it back / [In reply to] Can't Post
ah right... [In reply to] Can't Post
Can't be any more whiney then Sean-everythingwassoterrible-Astin's book.
One thing is for certain. [In reply to] Can't Post
Elijah Wood is going to be hounded by the press a bit more now. I wonder if he'll deny it or just say no comment?
He's pretty savvy and/or [In reply to] Can't Post
never far from his publicist. I saw him on Mad TV one time where a "correspondent" of their's was covering the premier of Happy Feet. The correspondent asked Elijah for a kiss but the publicist (off camera) said "NO!"
**Content advisory**: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awjd_7Oco5g
Perhaps you are correct but there is new and NEW. [In reply to] Can't Post
and I guess my point is this. Looking at how GdT has structured the films he has made, this wrapping of the main story with a structure that is primarily aimed at bringing back LotR cast members does not seem like his idea. Of course there were three other writers who would be much more likely to like this direction and he would be out voted. I hate to say it but this could have been one more small reason for leaving the production. (I still think time was the primary motivation).
Her I would like to say that I do not believe that the story within a story structure is necessarily bad. It depends on how it is implemented and if it does justice to both plots.
and don't forget the slo-mo! [In reply to] Can't Post
A haunting shot of the two of them holding on and flailing in a beautiful last embrace, as they sink down and down, with an angelic light about their heads, Drodo looking especially majestic, and all set to Shore's poignant music--so the viewer can later tie it in with Sam at the end of FOTR.. "They're dying as martyrs--like Tuor and Idril giving life to Earendil, and then departing Midde-Earth!"
Sorry, Sir Dennic, I couldn';t help it.
Hola to you too--Yeah, I went away for a while--RL is like that. But I wrote a long Christmas mathom (look for it in the Mathom thread in OT) and posted a bit in the Holday Fiesta thread. Happy New Year! I missed everybody.
(This post was edited by Sunflower on Jan 7 2011, 10:51pm)
lurtz2010
Everything is different now [In reply to] Can't Post
...Not really. I never actually thought something like this would happen and just thought TH would be a stand alone movie but this could be cool. This will be the last MiddleEarth/PJ 'thing' ever so I say PJ should do whatever he wants. Wasn't the ROTK cartoon version done like this? I remember the story was told by the hobbits at the dinner table at Rivendell or something.
Both Kangi and I take exception to that appraisal [In reply to] Can't Post
and Ataahua too. And every Sean Astin fan. So yeah, you offended just about everyone on the planet.
Anyway, getting back to this thread, it is hard to say where this approach was born. If it is simply fan driven I do not believe that means GDT didn't sign off on it. What is clear from the release is that Wood (and anyone else who was handed a script (we can assume that includes Viggo)) has known for some time about it and there has been no discernible anti-PJ and co. outcry.
Props to Mr. Cere for being able to keep a secret so well!
Preach it sista! [In reply to] Can't Post
Yeah hopefully RED cameras are not slo-mo enabled.
Ah this has been a good thread to start the year with...
Forgive my ignorance, but [In reply to] Can't Post
what does NARF stand for?
NARF: Not a real fan. // [In reply to] Can't Post
They can do a bazillion frames a minute... [In reply to] Can't Post
Makes the bullets in Matrix look fast.
Many thanks.// [In reply to] Can't Post
Most things like that can be found at the TORNspeak dictionary [In reply to] Can't Post
Apologies... [In reply to] Can't Post
Sean did a great job as Sam. I just found his behind the scenes stuff a little whiney and self absorbed.
Sorry if i offended the Sean Astin fan club members :)
It was at dinner at Ozzie & Harriet's house [In reply to] Can't Post
if I remember right, and it ended with little Ricky Nelson singing "The Greatest Adventure".
Sam would have been a logical choice... [In reply to] Can't Post
I agree that it would make more sense for Sam to read from the book, and there's something so wonderfully circular about that idea. But Frodo was the central character of the LotR movies, so perhaps they've decided to use him to tie TH with LotR for that reason, no matter how awkward the time-frame is.
But whatever they do, I don't want it to be one big happy gratuitous hobbit reunion that distracts too much from Bilbo's story.
(This post was edited by The Party Tree on Jan 7 2011, 11:07pm)
They both have played Dracula, did you know?// [In reply to] Can't Post
-Pretty close. [In reply to] Can't Post
It was at dinner at Ozzie & Harriet's house with Ricky Nelson singing.
Did they play the same Dracula? [In reply to] Can't Post
That is to say, was Lee's Dracula film a sequel to Langella's Dracula film, or vice-versa? Or were they completely unrelated adaptations (reboots, if you like)?
Wait, what? [In reply to] Can't Post
and Ataahua too.
I haven't read the book and have no plans to because, although I think he's a darn good actor, if find Sean's point of view of the world tends to trigger my eye-rolling reflex. He wouldn't be my first choice as a dinner companion, let alone author.
LOL!! [In reply to] Can't Post
Not a Real Ardent Pure Fan. I'm laughing in reality at the moment.
You are fantastic, man.
Me too [In reply to] Can't Post
And I am not too picky as to who says it... so long as it is said. Doesn't seem right to start the movie without that famous line.
carrioncrow
torn [In reply to] Can't Post
hmm...having myself previously suggested a sort of 'Princess Bride' sort of narrator (in my scenario with Sean Astin's Sam Gamgee doing the Peter Falk-ish bits)...this may sound hypocritical ...but...this Frodo thing....I'm agin' it!
(This post was edited by carrioncrow on Jan 7 2011, 11:24pm)
mtsquad
The Hobbit or the Hen? [In reply to] Can't Post
*Y-A-W-N* I hear ya, but can't really care.
Oh! Your and you are now colored disappointed!
Book? Movie?
Movie? Book?
They don't match! Hmm ...
Yarp... [In reply to] Can't Post
He was a fine actor but you are right eye rolling is about the best way to describe it.
I always remember the story of the cast all going up on stage at the oscars after winning the last award and Sean Astin turns to Stephen Spielberg - Oh Stephen, I hear people talking about doing a sequel of the Gooneys. And Spielberg just stopped him dead by saying - Not now Sean.
Continuity [In reply to] Can't Post
I agree with Flagg. 5 films, one long story, continuity. In years to come, long after these discussions are forgotten, I want to reach into my DVD cabinet (or whatever I have at the time) and pull out the 5 film box set, open a bottle of wine and watch the whole thing through. If I run out of wine, I'll get more........
So it was you huh? When was your last visit to France? [In reply to] Can't Post
They can do a bazillion frames a minute... Makes the bullets in Matrix look fast.
It's bazillion and one frames actually, and how would you know that? Done a bit of quick burgling have you?
First RED EPIC Camera Stolen From Executive's House In France -Cinema Blend
It's time to collect my $100,000 reward!
(This post was edited by Pipe Dream on Jan 7 2011, 11:29pm)
Love him to pieces, but... [In reply to] Can't Post
Half the time I don't know whether to giggle or cringe during his interviews.
But I would argue that a lot of people in Hollywood are just like that, and at least he's honest about how egocentric he can be. And if any of that kind of attitude had anything to do with more screen-time for Sam, etc., that's fine by me.
*Points at Kangi....."Burn him!" [In reply to] Can't Post
Just kidding. But seriously, wouldn't that be too funny if they credit a letter by some anonymous fan in the appendices for why they did it this way?
"Alas for Boromir! It was too sore a trial!"
-Faramir
I think that's right [In reply to] Can't Post
I agree about not necessarily reading/watching in order. It's 'neater' but by no means essential.
I'm also in agreement about it not being a deal breaker. I'm probably biased in that I love the more in-depth aspects of Tolkiens work, so it's always more more more backstory for me. Showing some of the time period between the Hobbit and FOTR is a way for some of that backstory to be added, but I'm only one fan. There are many ways to tell the tale.
I'm new to this board, and find the posting method slightly strange, so apologies for addressing more than one point in a post:
re: reboots. I agree with Flagg. IMO, no need, and I think it would potentially spoil things. It's a huge risk, and I see no reason to take it.
re: Jackson's films. My guess is that the vast majority of Tolkien fans range from mildly happy to delighted with the LOTR films. I've talked to people who are annoyed at one detail or another, but those of us who grew up with Tolkien, and waited eagerly to see the Bakshi version in the 70s will realise what a fantastic job, overall, Jackson's crew did with these films. I do not expect TH to be markedly different.
Honesty the best policy.. [In reply to] Can't Post
I agree, he never seems to BS at all.
But to be honest I've seen other actors that seem very honest and yet in not egotastic.
But hey I'm not turning this into a I HATE SEAN ASTIN thread... It's all good... Peace and love !!!
Elijah Wood 10 years on [In reply to] Can't Post
I know there's alot of talk about Woods' "perpetually youthful" appearance...but it is nearly a decade on since principal photography of LOTR and he may not be so convincing back in the ole wig & feet....and before someone suggests "but CGI...", let me remind you we're (reportedly) talking about a narrator. If the creative minds on this movie ( THE HOBBIT let us not forget) are wasting time and money on making Frodo Baggins look 10 years younger, this project is shaping up as a (hopefully at least hilarious) fiasco.
So Frodo will probably end film 1 [In reply to] Can't Post
He'll close the red book and say "And that's the end of that chapter... We'll have to wait a while to get the rest of Bilbo's adventure as I'm too tired for today now who's up for some Longbottom leaf?"
"ME!" says Sam.
"I am!" says Pippin.
"Right here!" says Merry.
Roll credits
...or something like that.
Bringing back cast members [In reply to] Can't Post
I honestly don't see it as 'bringing back cast members'. Many of these characters existed at the time of the Hobbit, and the rest were born and grew up before LOTR. The two hobbit films will, I guess, be 6 hours or so in Theatrical versions, maybe 7 hours in EE. If Legolas gets a minute or two, a boy Estel at Rivendell, a flash of Balin at Moria, even a young Gimli, it would hardly detract from the vast bulk of the Hobbit at all, and could set up FOTR very nicely when watching the films as a set.
I love Sean [In reply to] Can't Post
to peices too, but I have to admit, I DID read his book, and I have to give him credit for not holding back and including stories of things he said that offended several people and for which he later repented. For instance, he came out in the press and was angry at Peter and Fran for the take of the famous Mount Doom sequence that made it to the screen. Peter did about 30 takes of the "Do you remember the Shire?" scene (OH GOD I still tear up just thinking of this), and Sean and Elijah got better and better as it went on. According to Sean, his best work, where he was the most emotional, was in the closing takes, but Peter ended up putting something around Take 15 in the final version, and Sean thought it wasn't good enough, he was po'd about it and splashed it all over the media. (Hard to believe that Sean could have been any better than THAT, remembering that scene, and I've always been curious ever since to be able to see Take 30...but the way I see it is, Peter wanted more of the "even as hope seemed to die in Sam, a new strength rose up in him, as if he were steel that could not bend or break" or however that phrase went, and he wanted to evoke that "sam finding new reserves of strength and defiance" look rather than a weepy and emotional Sam.
But for Sean it was a cop-out I suppose. For the life of me, after he experienced the audience reaction to that scene, I don't know what in heck he had to complainb about. Planet Earth was pretty much reduced to a puddle of mush by that scene, and it has become famous in modern film.
Then again, didn't he admit he was bipolar? Suppose it explains "I SO wanted to be up there!" (Oscars stage).
You have to remember too, that Sean more than any one of them, is a total creature of Hollywood. His parents wrre Hollywood royalty, and from an early age he was active in the biz. Most child actors who are in high-profile by the age of 10 end up screwed up in some way. On drugs, with busted relatiohips or whatever. I think considering all went through Sean turned out relatively well. GOing to an elite school for Hollywood progeny can't have helped matters either. Its a screwed up place. (Hollywood, not LA< I mean...sorry Ainu!)
Parts of the book shocked me, but he's past all that now. Nobody's perfect, and I forgive Sean his flaws.
(This post was edited by Sunflower on Jan 8 2011, 12:03am)
Except that, of all of those... [In reply to] Can't Post
the only one that could be a "returning cast member" is Orlando Bloom.
Obviously Viggo Mortensen can't play a 10-year-old boy (at least, not convincingly), and I don't see John Rhys-Davies as a young dwarf, either.
Did they show Balin at Moria in LOTR? I don't remember.
for what its worth [In reply to] Can't Post
here is a rough outline of what i had in mind from over a year ago:
A Hobbit, Master Samwise Gamgee (a respectable 102 years old), stands alone with the aid of a walking stick in contemplation in what appears to be a beautiful well tended garden in the midst of the glade where Frodo first appears in Peter Jackson�s FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING. (It is, in truth, now the gravesite of Sam�s wife, Rose Gamgee)
CUT TO: A few more scenes of morning in Hobbiton.
CUT TO: A "well-to-do" Hobbit is shown tidying up on the doorstep of Bag End and preparing to settle down and enjoy a "pipe of tobacco out of doors". This hobbit is Samwise Gamgee, Master of Bag End. His morning regimen is disrupted by an intrusion...several of his own grandchildren (including a young Holfast Gardner) and other children from the holes of the Lower Hill. Up to mischief or actually seeking Samwise for entertainment�a tale is called for�"Frodo of the Nine-Fingers"�no�here on the doorstep of Bag End on this morning it is the Tale of Bilbo and "The Road going ever on and on�" that Sam has in mind. Sam sits down with the children all around and begins the tale of Bilbo�s adventure with Gandalf and the Quest for Erebor�
The events of THE HOBBIT � CHAPTER 1 "An Unexpected Party" � PAGES 11-36
events of THE HOBBIT � CHAPTER 2 "Roast Mutton"� PAGES 37-43 up to the point where Bilbo steps into the firelight of the three trolls�"and this is what he saw�" One of the trolls turns from the fire to face Bilbo. It is a terrible creature just as full of menace as those trolls portrayed in Moria or the Black Gate of Peter Jackson�s LOTR�
CUT TO: A trembling hobbit child (Holfast Gardner?). The story has become a bit too intense for the young hobbit. Sam interrupts the tale to speak a word of comfort, pauses to consider�The story resumes, but now in a gentler (strictly PG-rated) tone more reminiscent of JRRT�s original HOBBIT as written. The tone of the Film will only slowly build back to the PG-13 intensity of Jackson�s LOTR films.
FADE BACK: The story picks up again at the trolls� camp. They are still threatening creatures, but now with intelligible speech and a slightly comic aspect to their character. Proceed with the story:
THE HOBBIT � PAGES 44-106
Sam�s presence as "THE NARRATOR" will be keenly felt from the point Bilbo finds the ring until Bilbo is reunited with the dwarves on the Mountain side. Perhaps we�ll hear the children shout out the answer to the riddles�
proceed with THE HOBBIT � CHAPTER 6 � PAGES 107-226
CUT TO: Sam looking into the eyes of the hobbit children. "�Going on from there was the bravest thing Bilbo ever did. The tremendous things that happened afterwards were as nothing compared to it. He fought the real battle in that tunnel alone, before he ever saw the vast danger that lay in wait�" Sam pauses and looks into the eyes of young Holfast. Holfast sets his jaw and nods deliberately as if to say "Yes. Go on." At this point the tone of the film has returned to the PG-13 level and intensity of Peter Jackson�s LOTR films. The image of Bilbo walking down the dark tunnel toward the light and heat of the dragon�s lair draws obvious parallels to Sam�s own experience at Mount Doom.
FADE TO: THE HOBBIT � CHAPTER 12 � PAGES 227-278
Gandalf, Balin and Bilbo settle down with their evening pipes outside the doorstep of Bag End.
FADE TO: Sam and the children sitting on the very same doorstep all those years later. It has changed little. It is now evening for Sam and the children as well. He finishes the tale and sends the children off to home and bed. Some reside at Bag End. Sam takes a moment alone to look at the stars. He recites a bit of his own poetry. As a few of the children enter the front hall of Bag End, Elanor (Sam�s eldest daughter) steps outside. She brings a satchel and Sam�s Elvish cloak. He has a moment with his daughter. A company of Elves comes around the hill on their way west to the sea. Sam has been expecting them. He heads off to join them with walking stick in hand.
Are you kidding? [In reply to] Can't Post
Where would Peter be without his beloved slo-mo? It's like Guillermo's tentacles.
(EDIT: I relaize how that sounds..oh GOD. Let me just say that those of you who are familar with Guillermo's portfolio know what I mean..it's like someone getting stabbed in every Jackson film.)
Ah, not knocking ya Peter. At least not yet. <g>. Sometimes that slo-mo made me cry.
I hope the threads get better--I can't wait for the Sir Ian confirmation thread myself.
Well yes [In reply to] Can't Post
But I did say 'before the time of LOTR' as well, and we don't know that that time period will categorically be excluded from these films.
The point I was making, though, is that there is nothing intrinsically wrong, imo, with using characters from LOTR in these prequels - Tolkien gives us immense detail on their whereabouts. Whether we see the same actor, or the character as a child with a different actor, it still serves the prupose of introducing the character into the five movies.
The only thing I would object to, as I said earlier, is if the character is shown with a major difference in story.
Sean Astin [In reply to] Can't Post
While I thought he was the coolest of the hobbits behind the scenes, for instance that "safety sam" part with helicopters was a lot of fun, I have also heard that his book is whiney. I have to read it myself though to form a better opinion.
But he'll always be Sam to me
This is a charming idea! [In reply to] Can't Post
Although it reminded me of the unfortunate fact that The Return of the King film didn't end with Sam living in Bag End.
But aside from that, I think that some way of bringing in those wonderful narrative lines that otherwise might not make it into the movie would be great, whichever hobbit they choose in order to do it.
(This post was edited by The Party Tree on Jan 8 2011, 12:16am)
The thought of being responsible makes me queasy. [In reply to] Can't Post
I can picture being stoned by frenzied fans of the book. I would probably join in. (Kangi hit himself in the head with a large stone.)
I've always wonderd about that. [In reply to] Can't Post
I don't remember the end of LOTR or appendices on this...but in the book, Sam does not live in Bag End? I know he did the first couple of years after his marriage, Frodo says "There's as much room in Bag End for as big a family as you'd wish for" and Sam does move in. But after Frodo departs?
He can certainly afford to keep Bag End, I imagined he returned well recompensed from Gondor. Did Sam's giving up Bag End come from his regret over losing Frodo--hard to stay in a place that reminds of of your best friend who "died"--or was it just good politics on the part of the Mayor of the Shire--hobbits can be tetchy about those who "returned from living in foreign parts" and it makes good political sense for Master Samwise to love to humbler dwellings? Or did he think Bag End was cursed...Hey I don't admit toknowing as much as you guys do.
Only Balin's tomb was shown // [In reply to] Can't Post
Lee did several Dracula & vampire films. [In reply to] Can't Post
Sam inherits Bag End and stays there in the book, but they must have just abandoned that whole idea in the movie [In reply to] Can't Post
They must have left that out of the movie for pacing reasons, but I honestly don't think it would have been that difficult to incorporate it. So I'm not sure what the movie-verse explanation is for him not living there (if there is one).
Wrong target [In reply to] Can't Post
you, Kangi and I are united in our outrage at the notion that any future book by GDT could be as whinny as Sean Astin's book (which I admit to only have skimmed at a local bookstore).
(This post was edited by SirDennisC on Jan 8 2011, 12:38am)
Not really [In reply to] Can't Post
as much as I like PJ's films so far, his signature techniques (which between us we outlined fully) have been over done.
Sadly, I have never been to France. [In reply to] Can't Post
But I LOVE French Fries (Even if they were not invented in France). As to the Camera...that would be a hard one to fence. I am sure each one is heavily documented.
I found the letter. I thought I had deleted it but It got saved on disk when I backed up My Doccuments [In reply to] Can't Post
Mr. Jackson,
I have been impressed with your work and especially enjoy your off tilt dark sense of humor.
Your postings on the Kong is King web site are fun and remarkably informative. I am 56 years of age and recall King Kong as one of my earliest TV experiences. I watched most of it from behind the couch. The Dino remake was a disappointment to say the least. I am looking forward to The King�s release.
I am also looking forward to what hopefully will come beyond. I am referring to the possible production of the Hobbit as a sequel to LOTR.
I am and have been a serious scholar involved in the study of Tolkein�s work since 1973. I will say up front that I enjoyed your version of the myth immensely. Every single person that worked on that project deserves congratulations and well done.
I recently attended the Fiftieth Anniversary Conference at Marquette University , Milwaukee WI, USA and became involved in discussions with several of the leading writer/experts on Tolkein�s work. There were a number of people there who had found their first taste of the Professor�s work in your work. There was a bit of mostly unspoken animosity toward these �movie people�. I approached a couple of the presenters during breaks and questioned them about their response to the films. I did this as by introducing myself as a �book & movie person. I detected a good deal of resentment in the responses I received.
�It�s a boy�s action adventure movie.� One man said. I pointed out that I had been involved with those fans that loved the films and that by far this group was made up disproportionately of women. His response was something to the effect that it was just a response to the �Hunks� cast in the leading roles. I actually laughed. These women are mostly in the age range of 30 to 60. Some had read the books, some had not: all of them are. He did not want to talk after that.
Some of the scholars fear that the popularization will diminish the stature of LOTR as literature. Some appear to be a bit possessive and don�t want to share. Others riled against �unnecessary� story changes that were made by the films. I spoke on behalf of the idea that, as the storyteller you gave your version of the myth, and it was not necessary to judge one against the other but to appreciate each for what it was. I truly thank you for the years of your life that you put into this film.
Last but not least I am writing to share an insight that you may or may not take to heart. It involves an Idea about a possible structure for the script� The Hobbit� as a sequel for LOTR. Please do not run shrieking into the woods. I am sure you get thousands of suggestions both good and bad but please hear me out.
You should maximize the connection to LOTR: this could be done by setting up the body of the story as a flashback. The story could start in the shire at the end of The War of The Ring and be introduced in several possible ways by one or another of the Hobbits. This beginning could incorporate some unshown part of the LOTR story line and include cameos by some or all of the original actors. This action sequence could lead into the Hobbit, which could come back around again to LOTR. I offer this only out a deep feeling of gratitude and strange feeling of kinship. It would be truly remarkable to hear from you, but I consider this letter a message in a bottle.
Yours in Fellowship
P.S. I belong to a chapter of the Tolkien Society here in Minnesota. (Barry Osborne�s home). We are screening the Extended trilogy (got the rights from New Line) on the big screen on New Years Eve for about 1300 of our friends and family. It will be fun. Wish you could be here. It would be a hoot.
Note: I clipped out addresses and I am now 62 so that dates the note. I also put the pertinent text in bold.
(This post was edited by Kangi Ska on Jan 8 2011, 1:41am)
Oh, well, [In reply to] Can't Post
in that you are indeed correct.
I would go so far as to say that 'whiney' is to Guillermo as 'cuddly and loving' is to Gollum.
If you wrote that letter then why are you dissappointed by this news? // [In reply to] Can't Post
As I said earlier: [In reply to] Can't Post
I have come to the opinion that the book can best be served by an adaption that makes it neither a prequel nor a sequel. I also said that I was ambivalent about the whole thing. It will all depend on how the story is handled. I am of two minds about a lot of things involved in the making of the Hobbit film. It really could go so many ways. I just do not want it to fail for stupid reasons like greed or ego. It will be harder to make great cinema with the play within the play structure, but it is possible.
Oh no, I agree completely [In reply to] Can't Post
Hollywood is completely nutty, and LA has it's less-than-savory areas, too!
While I want to enter the industry, there are many reasons why I want to be behind the scenes, not on screen, and I consider myself lucky that I was not born into the industry. It's really a hit or miss with childhood actors, and children born with parents in the industry.
However, I've met enough fans, and enough people in the industry, to know that both are eccentric in many similar ways... which is why I think I'll fit well, if I ever make it ;)
As for Sean, he was always... very blunt. Perhaps less humble than expected by society. But his heart seems to be in the right place, and that is all one can ask for.
So [In reply to] Can't Post
basically PJ will do exactly what he's been advised not to do, which is to remind us that the Hobbit is in fact a prequel.
I have a mixed feelings. I don't know. I love the Hobbit. I think we all Tolkien fans and LOTR movies fans don't necessarily need to be reminded what the Hobbit is.
respectfully disagree [In reply to] Can't Post
"Reading him talk about Tolkien's work so enthusiastically makes me doubtful of that single statement he made in that interview several years ago, when he said that he hated hairy feet or something like that. To be honest, I'd be even more inclined to trust del Toro with Tolkien's work than I would be to trust Jackson."
That's quite a statement. I think Peter Jackson went out of his way to let Tolkien be Tolkien. I guess we'll be playing the "what if" game for next two years..."Would GDT have been okay with _______________?" I guess I'm in the camp that was okay with GDT directing the Hobbit as long as Jackson was producing and screenwriting, but I wouldn't have been ok with GDT apart from Jackson, mainly for continiuity, but also because of their differences as directors. Jackson's films are bombastic and over-the-top. Jackson doesn't do subtle. I get the sense that he is a kid in a candy store and there's a sense of inbridled joy in the creating. The LOTR screenplays were surprisingly good-natured (from the director of Meet the Feebles it was a shock to me at least!) GDT excels also at what he does, but I don't know that I would implicitly trust him with the Hobbit. During the course of his posts here, on more than a few times, he would make remarks about what he believed was in the story that seemed gnostic and very different from anything Tolkien the Catholic would have intended. Even that statement about Plato's cave...it's just out of left field...I doubt Tolkien was doing anything platonic w/ Middle Earth...Lewis had more Plato than Tolkien and Tolkien loathed spiritual allegorizing. I didn't get the sense that del Toro got that. His posts were always laced with spiritual meanings that I didn't see as being compatible with Catholic Tolkien. With Jackson, I get the sense that he couldn't care less about overloading the films with spiritual meanings and would rather just tell a damn good story. Obviously they probably had their differences...but I'm not going to nitpick PJ's decisions because in my mind he's already proved himself. But then again, if we don't nitpick, this will be a dull 2 years >:-)
As far as GDT in Middle Earth, after The Hobbit, I would give him Children of Hurin and tell him to go wild. His natural sensibilities would be perfect for the story and he wouldn't have to worry about continuity because it takes place in a different age. I think he would be better than PJ at capturing Beleriand!
Gandalf to Balrog: "Why do I get the feeling you will be the death of me?"// [In reply to] Can't Post
Really? [In reply to] Can't Post
Peter has not always "been content to "let Tolkien be Tolkien" (shall I count the ways? Oh for that epic list by the Second Ager Angalacon The Black! And let others count the ways, ad nauseum!) . And I don't think he is prepared to be as faithful to Tolkien this time around either. Example that we know of already: Reports of Guillermo's reaction to re-reading the end of TH where Bilbo is unconscious through the Battle of Five Armies: he said in effect that that was such a fantastic, un-novel plotline, and "we musthave this in the film!"
Quick poll: how many of y'all beleive that Peter Jackson is going to have Bilbo waking up to find the Battle of Five Armies all over and he played no active part in it? Or is Peter going to go all Hollywood and have Bilbo take some Heroic Stand? Can you see Warner Brothers allowing that? The Big Action Scene and Our Hero gets no Money Shots?
And welcome to TORN!
If so, [In reply to] Can't Post
I find it curious that it wasn't corrected in the EE. A really striking bit of laziness on Peter and Co's part. And quite curious. Thanks for clearing that up!
Thanks for being understanding [In reply to] Can't Post
I had a friend from LA once, and she told me a bit about the town. I've never been to yr part of the woods and hope to go someday! I'd confess I'd love to do the whole Hollywood Tourist thing (even though I know that many historical landmarks are in parts of toen that now are no longer so great, sadly.)
And good luck! I remember you and yr art. I think you'll go far.
I'm afraid PJ will turn him into at least a bit of an "action-hobbit", sadly.// [In reply to] Can't Post
The couldn't have easily changed it for the EE, though. [In reply to] Can't Post
That would have involved changing the last shot of the movie. And it is beautiful and wonderful, and while I watch the movie I don't really think about how upset the change makes me.
really! [In reply to] Can't Post
Yes, Jackson made changes to the books...I remember HATING the decision to cut Saruman's death out of ROTK and (still think) the scouring of the Shire was vital to the story. I'm not arguing about changes...no matter the director, millions of changes will have to be made in a film adaptation. The question is...which changes will make the film better and more engaging while allowing the source material to shine? I guess the majority of PJ's changes didn't bug me. Although I remember posting here the day I found out Saruman would be cut from ROTK and overreacting...saying PJ just kissed the chance of getting an oscar goodbye. (Umm...guess I was wrong..;))
It's probably just me but GDT just rubbed me the wrong way. He always had a little spiritual lesson for us all. Hey, I love Pan's Labyrinth but the gnostic little fairy tale it opens with is about as un-Tolkien as it gets and GDT seems very earnest about his beliefs. Which is fine but I guess I never quite trusted him to keep them out of the Hobbit. So PJ made changes but he seemed to always find ways to get some of Tolkien's great lines in the film..even if another character said them. I guess I never trusted GDT not to replace Tolkien's lines with his own pithy spiritual comments. "Remember Bilbo, this world is an illusion, only spirit matters." I guess I would be less irked at Bilbo slaying orcs in battle than Gandalf espousing neo-platonist philosophy.
Maybe it's just because I've just sat through Dawn Treader, where some mediocre screenwriters tried to "improve" Lewis. Having cheesy "Faith and Family" lines like "We have nothing if not belief." And "sometimes you just have to believe in these things." Blech. Lewis would stab his own hand before he let it write any tripe like that. Still bitter from that experience, I'd trust PJ to make the changes that have to be made, keep the heart of things and not try to slip in his own viewpoint as much as GDT would.
is it that much of a stretch?? [In reply to] Can't Post
We'll get plenty of "action-hobbit" with the spiders in Mirkwood...by this time in the story is it really THAT much out of character? In the book, wasn't it told from Bilbo's POV? When he woke up the battle was pretty much over. You know that wouldn't fly in a big-budget adaptation...the ONE huge battle in the book goes unseen? I doubt PJ will have Bilbo on a white horse leading the army of men. He'll probably just slip on the ring and comically pick off orcs. Maybe he'll save a dwarf's life or something. By this point in the book it wouldn't be out of character at all.
A couple of questions: [In reply to] Can't Post
Just what do you refer to in your use of the term gnostic?
And to what do you refer in noting GdT's "little spiritual lesson"? Please elaborate.
I certainly hope not. [In reply to] Can't Post
They should at least retire to the Green Dragon for a few rounds and a dance.
... [In reply to] Can't Post
Gnostic = neo-platonist...material world an illusion, spirit is real. Lewis goes there with his "shadowlands" analogy and in the last Narnia book...somewhat. I've never seen Tolkien go there, and he sneered at any attempt to "spiritualize" his stories. There are many variations on gnosticism but they all seem to hold esoteric knowledge above sensory experience.
As for GDT's little spiritual lessons - how do I do a search of his posts..? I'l dig them up and give you examples if you want. In the quote above, he almost does with his Plato's cave analogy...i.e. Tolkien must go OUTSIDE "Plato's cave" and construct his world. If you know Plato's cave and what it refers to, baiscally he is saying that Tolkien must travel beyond the illusion of his senses and construct Middle Earth. That's GDT's point of view, but I don't share it. I don't particularly want to go dig up old posts but I remember wincing a lot reading his posts because of these spiritual viewpoints he presents as "just so."
Balin's tomb [In reply to] Can't Post
The fact that only Balin's tomb was shown in the LOTR films is, for me, one of the greatest hints for the need for some 'bridging work' to be done in these new films. If the story of the Hobbit is stuck to rigidly, we see a major character from the first two films ending happily then suddely turning up dead in the third film, in a different location hundreds of miles away with no explanation. I don't think Jackson et al will do that.
Some 'filling in' of the time period between the end of the Hobbit and FOTR is inevitable, I feel. I'm fairly certain that's where the Drogo stuff fits, and would not be surprised to see other stuff there as well as the Balin stuff.
Best example... [In reply to] Can't Post
Of Peter's techniques being over used is in King Kong. Where Jack Black tells Adrian Brody the name of the Island they are heading to... that scene is so over the top I cringe and laugh at the same time...
Why not run with the book version? [In reply to] Can't Post
I have no idea which post to reply to, so I've picked one at random.
I don't see why a pre-LOTR events sequence including Frodo at the beginning of TH couldn't be made to fit. In the book, Bilbo tells Frodo the true story of the ring soon after he arrives at Bag End, as Frodo tells Gandalf in "A Long-Expected Party". The Red Book is partly written at the time of LOTR because Merry has read about the ring prior to Frodo's flight.
For continuity in the movie-verse one could have it that as Frodo and Bilbo are planning the said Party, Bilbo sits Frodo down, pulls out the ring and says words to the effect of "It's time you knew the truth".... cue story. This would also then set up Frodo and Gandalf's opening scene in Fellowship, where Frodo comments that Bilbo is up to something, and that Gandalf knows about it. An idea that Gandalf then relays back to Bilbo. Okay, so everyone's 10yrs older, but it's not impossible.
UPDATE [In reply to] Can't Post
UPDATE: Less than 24 hours after Deadline suggested that Elijah Wood would be returning, ComingSoon.net has received confirmation from the actor's reps that Wood will indeed be returning and that he's confirmed to star in the film. They've also informed us that Wood and comedian Eddie Izzard will be starring in the SKY TV mini-series based on Robert Louis Stevenson's literary classic "Treasure Island," playing Ben Gunn. It will be directed by Steve Barron, who directed the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles as well as some of the classic music videos of the '80s including "Video Killed the Radio Star."
Earlier, TheOneRing.net suggested that Wood, at least, is a near certainty and offered some spoilers as to how his appearance is planned to play out, which you can read about by clicking here.
Read more: UPDATE: Elijah Wood Confirmed for The Hobbit - ComingSoon.net http://www.comingsoon.net/...=73066#ixzz1ARCdMtcP
The bridge film is dead. [In reply to] Can't Post
Now we are going to set a Lord of the Rings stage on which to play out the story of The Hobbit. If the wrapper gets too big the story at the center will be diminished. I really want the Hobbit's heart and soul. The wrapper is just gloss. It is nice but it does not have to be there. The Hobbit is enough.
Guillermo's tentacles are only an ugly rumor. // [In reply to] Can't Post
Now we know who is replacing Bard for the killing of Smaug! [In reply to] Can't Post
I just don't know how they are going to work out the time line, but I am sure they will have thought of something. Also if all else fails they can always ignore the discrepancy.
I know the bridge film is dead [In reply to] Can't Post
But there are still stories that need to be bridged. Just because we are not getting a 3 hour film on the time between TH and FOTR, does not mean we will be getting nothing.
I did not say that such events would not be drug in. [In reply to] Can't Post
I said that they are not necessary. I also said that the more unnecessary events that get drug in the more "The Hobbit" is diminished. The Hobbit is not a chapter in the Lord of the Rings. To force it to become one misses entirely what the book is.
Balin [In reply to] Can't Post
Do you think the story of Balin is unneccessary (see my point above)?
Bridge film is dead, but [In reply to] Can't Post
The bridge-material is somewhat (?) alive. If you would believe the reddit chap, we have expanded Gollum material and that kind of stuff. Like other Im hoping for some dwarf-bridging (like backstory on Moria)
The telling of the failed effort to colonize Moria by Balin & company [In reply to] Can't Post
is not necessary for the telling of The Hobbit. If it had been I am sure the Professor would have included it. The existance of Aragorn in the guise of Estel at Rivendel is not necessary to the telling of the Hobbit. Even the action of the White Wizards against the Necromancer does not need to be elaborated to tell the story of the Hobbit. Any and all of these things may be included in the Hobbit movies but they will not add to the story that Tolkien wrote and published as the Hobbit. However the additions may serve other ends that some (but not all) might deem desirable.
FarFromHome
It seems like a deliberate change to me [In reply to] Can't Post
Sam never moves into Bag End in the movie, perhaps because in the few scenes they had to work with, they wanted to show Frodo alone and withdrawn ("How do you pick up the threads of an old life?"), wandering around in that empty, echoing, unnaturally tidy Bag End.
I figure we're meant to imagine that the Sackville-Bagginses inherit Bag End after Frodo leaves, and that Sam never gave up his simple life as a gardener or his humble hobbit-hole. There's a certain bitter-sweetness to that, really - different from Tolkien's imagined rise in social status for Sam and family, but then Sam never takes over from Frodo as the "true hero" of the story in the film as he does in the book. And the social status thing is much less important in the films anyway - Sam doesn't need a big imposing home to show he's grown in stature, I think it's that moment when he leaves the other hobbits and goes up to make his move on Rosie that tells us he's not the shy, retiring hobbit he used to be!
They went in, and Sam shut the door.
But even as he did so, he heard suddenly,
deep and unstilled,
the sigh and murmur of the Sea upon the shores of Middle-earth.
From the unpublished Epilogue to the Lord of the Rings
Kangi [In reply to] Can't Post
Admit it, your fanfic part of the brain wants this, and more
I am not trying to champion a purist approach to the Hobbit. [In reply to] Can't Post
I just want to make the point that this is the Hobbit and not Lord of the Rings chapter one. It deserves some respect. Saying that Elijah Wood will star in the Hobbit (as I have read on several websites)makes my concern clear. There are those that hope for that which I fear most. i want The Hobbit. I can accept a bit of nostalgic framing to set it up and a bit of background story to make it even more meaningful but only a bit. If the set up and background becomes the story then I will not live to see the Hobbit done justice on the big screen.
I want the heart and soul of the Hobbit. A little frosting is OK, but only a little.
Balin in Moria not necessary for the Hobbit [In reply to] Can't Post
True, but most definitely IS necessary for the films to make sense as a quintet. Galadriel is not necessary for the Hobbit, but has been cast. Drogo has been cast, not in The Hobbit. We never see or hear Radagast in The Hobbit, but a well known actor has been cast. We know these things. It's clear that we are going to be seeing more than just the Hobbit story, and, imo, the reason for that is to tell the whole story over 5 films. I cannot see that these two new films will only tell the Hobbit story. In fact, It's obvious that they won't by the castings.
Jackson et al made the first three films for people who have, and have not read the books. Balin going to Moria may not need to be explained for the Hobbit story per se, and not for readers of Tolkien's works. For the movies though, that has to be explained. It makes no sense otherwise.
It's pretty clear to me why the bridge film concept was abandoned, but it was abandoned as a film. I think some of that material will still be included, and the castings support that.
(This post was edited by Bran on Jan 8 2011, 12:03pm)
The letter I quoted in an earlier post was from the fanfic part of my brain. [In reply to] Can't Post
Seven or so years of thought has helped the hormones settle and self examination mellow my desires.
It would take one line of dialog [In reply to] Can't Post
added to the final scene of the book (You know where Balin and Gandalf visit Bilbo at Bag End some years after Bilbo's return) to completely set up the Moria colony. Balin says: "By the way me and some of the boys are going back to Khazad-dum to set up shop."
Let's agree to differ! [In reply to] Can't Post
Perhaps film-Frodo liked to live alone [In reply to] Can't Post
and Sam moved in to Bag End shortly following the end of the third film? But not the Sackville-Bagginses... no!
There's an easy solution to this [In reply to] Can't Post
At some point in The Hobbit, while the Company is travelling, Balin walks alongside Bilbo and they start chatting. This will help to establish Balin as Bilbo's best friend amongst the Dwarves. They end up discussing what they want to do with themselves once they get their share of Smaug's treasure (reminding the audience of the film's purpose). Balin mentions that he'd like to take a colony of Dwarves and restore the abandoned underground city of Khazad-d�m to its former glory.
There's no need for Balin to mention this in the scene at the very end of the second film where he and Gandalf visit Bag End � The Hobbit shouldn't end on such a downbeat note reminding us that there is plenty of death and failure to come.
I agree with that [In reply to] Can't Post
Flagg, the point about the 'end' of film 2. In the original film appendices, the film makers talked about why they couldn't put the Saruman scene after the End of Helm's deep. In essence, it's more story after the film has ended, and that's a bad idea. I'm not sure how, but any exposition leading us into film 3 (FOTR) may well have to be done earlier. It's certainly interesting to speculate how that will be achieved.
I wouldn't say [In reply to] Can't Post
that Jackson 'went out of his way to let Tolkien be Tolkien' � he did quite a good job of keeping the films faithful to the books, but many changes were made that were not needed, some of them very un-Tolkien. I think Jackson's trilogy is excellent � perhaps even a masterpiece � but it is by no means a perfect adaptation of the books. We've already seen three Jackson-directed, Jackson-scripted, Jackson-produced Tolkien films, and I was quite excited to see something somewhat different � I was not only OK with the GdT/PJ team, I was highly enthusiastic about it. I would have been just as enthusiastic if del Toro had been given free reign and allowed to go crazy with The Hobbit � perhaps even more enthusiastic. I don't get why people often say they want Jackson to direct 'for continuity' � they seem to have a different definition in mind for the term than I do. If the characters are all portrayed by the same actors, and if the returning sets and props and costumes all look the same as they looked before, that's continuity. Different storytelling techniques or camera angles don't break the cohesion of a fictional universe.
I think you are misinterpreting del Toro's statements regarding Tolkien's work. He did not say that Tolkien was a neo-platonist or that he used spiritual allegory; he was comparing Tolkien to the man in the story of the cave. By the shadows on the wall, Tolkien was able to sense an other world � what he himself called the 'secondary universe' � beyond the mundane reality to which we are all confined. Del Toro's comments related to the magnitude and quality of Tolkien's writings, not to their spiritual or allegorical significance. He made a number of other statements in the quote I posted, reflecting his deep knowledge and familiarity with the myths Tolkien drew from. He expresses what I think is a genuine understanding of The Hobbit's core themes � greed, war, hoarding, the loss of innocence � not platonism and Catholic allegory!
I have no doubt that Guillermo would have produced an astounding rendition of The Hobbit � I don't think I'll ever completely get over his departure. But one thing I totally agree with you on is The Children of H�rin...
Hi Ataahua!! *waves* [In reply to] Can't Post
I emerge from the dark caves of Lurkdom...pale...wide-eyed...and ready for redemption
According to what Frodo is writing in the Red Book in those final scenes... [In reply to] Can't Post
...Sam was elected Mayor, all the same (I'm not absolutely sure on this because his arm is covering the book, but it seems to say):
"Samwise Gamgee was elected...[hand blocks page]
...Hobbiton, and though it took [???]
courage, he finally asked [???]
of fair Rosie Cotton [etc]."
Although I suppose that was just a little added gift to book fans and we shouldn't read into it. But I can't really accept the Sackville-Bagginses living in Bag End. That's just too much.
(This post was edited by The Party Tree on Jan 8 2011, 4:12pm)
I was pointing out that many of these side issues can be taken care of inside the story of The Hobbit. [In reply to] Can't Post
No need for time eating side trips when a bit of good writing takes care of the whole process. I only picked the books end scene because it exists and could be used as an example.
"Star" in the film? [In reply to] Can't Post
I'd hope that by 'starring' they mean 'maybe 5 minutes of screentime'. Because, well, the Hobbit stars Bilbo. I don't mind if it co-stars Gandalf with the whole White Council/Dol Guldur debacle, but... I hope that the 'future' scenes are limited.
I think and hope [In reply to] Can't Post
... the references to Elijah Wood 'starring' in The Hobbit are just a bit of lazy journalism which started with someone who knew nothing of the books and assumed 'hobbit' = 'Frodo', and repeated by others.
I can't conceive of any way in which Frodo could have a starring role in these films - that's Bilbo's job.
The way it works: [In reply to] Can't Post
Any named cast appearing before the proper credit crawl -- sorted by size or importance of role and/or by seniority -- would rightly be described as "starring" in a film. Usually we see big names with small roles included at the end of the list following the words "and" or "and featuring." Likewise when a relatively unknown or young actor has a big part their name usually appears at the end of the list after the words "and introducing." Regardless, if they are listed before the crawl, they are a star of that work.
Don't quote me of course but no matter the size of his role, Wood is entitled to the descriptor "starring in" or "star of" because of his status, seniority, and/or the contribution he has already made to the franchise.
In common usage (ie among fans), if he is just one of many named cast members we might refer to him as "a star of The Hobbit movies." However, if his part is small, tangential, or otherwise insignificant we might call him "featured" or in "cameo" both of which acknowledge his star status. Conversely, even in common usage he would never (correctly) be called a "featured extra" or "extra."
dormouse [In reply to] Can't Post
Yeah, a lot of newspapers/sites are just recycling the same thing all over again.
I'd forgotten that Sam becoming Mayor [In reply to] Can't Post
is in the movie's Red Book. It's true it's just a glimpse, but I figure if it's there it must mean something...
But Sam doesn't need to move into Bag End to be Mayor - it's more important, I'd say, that he starts to take charge in the way that we see him doing when he goes to talk to Rosie. Once he's taken that one courageous step, he's on his way to greater things.
But I can't really accept the Sackville-Bagginses living in Bag End. That's just too much.
Well we're never told that, so no need to accept it! I know a lot of people have made up endings that suit them better, such as Sam finding the deeds to Bag End inside the Red Book, and moving in after the end of the movie. I guess it's left open enough that we can imagine whatever we like.
I suppose I I imagine it different ways depending what mood I'm in, but I think it's quite possible to imagine that the Sackville-Bagginses got Bag End. Sam's reward is his happy family, and I think they'd be just as happy in that cosy hobbit-hole as they would in Bag End. But I bet Mayor Sam shook up those smug hobbits, like the S-Bs, the Proudfeet, and the hobbits with the pumpkin, once he got to be Mayor!
case in point... [In reply to] Can't Post
There were choices PJ made that I probably would pulled the trigger on, yet he backed off because it wasn't true to Tolkien. The case in point is your avatar! If I were directing I would have done it! To have Sauron come out at the end like that...I would have done it. I'm surprised PJ stopped himself. Same with Arwen at Helm's Deep, etc.
I don't know...I guess it's just when GDT waxes philosophical it's like listening to Bono talk about world peace. For me at least. I guess my sensibilites just naturally lean toward a Peter Jackson. I like GDT in smaller doses.
What irks me is what seems like a measuring rod on this board - "Would GDT have signed off on this?" I don't necessarily think the standard for validity is GDT's opinion. He's entitled to it, but I trust Peter Jackson. That's what my posts are responding to. The unspoken assumption that GDT signing off on something makes it legitimate.
According to the EE appendices [In reply to] Can't Post
Jackson removed the 'Aragorn vs Sauron' fight because using fourteen-foot bad guys in suits of armour as the climax for an entire epic trilogy just didn't work very well. He didn't remove that sequence out of a sense of loyalty to Tolkien � if that was the reason, it never would have made it past the storyboards. Once the battle had been filmed and intercut with the Cracks of Doom sequence, the filmmakers saw that it simply wasn't working very well, so they digitally replaced Sauron with a mountain troll.
let me check [In reply to] Can't Post
Ok - let me check the appendices on that point. I specifically remember the words being said "It just wasn't Tolkien" but I'll defer if it's not there. I thought they said it was because they didn't want everything Frodo went through to hinge on a battle between Aragorn and Sauron, because that was anti-climactic, trivialized Frodo's sufferings and wasn't Tolkien.
I think the other reasons [In reply to] Can't Post
(that it was anti-climactic and that it trivialised Frodo's quest) were probably more influential in the decision to cut that sequence than the fact that it wasn't very Tolkienesque. There are plenty of aspects to the films that are very unlike Tolkien's writings.
question [In reply to] Can't Post
Any film will be very unlike Tolkien's writings. Just so I have a sense of where your coming from, what changes would you have made/reversed to make the films better?
exact quote... [In reply to] Can't Post
"It was not what Tolkien imagined, and we realized that was actually totally demeaning to what Aragorn was doing."
Well [In reply to] Can't Post
There are plenty of newly-added sequences in the films that I just didn't want, such as Aragorn falling off a cliff in The Two Towers, apparently dying, then turning out to be okay after all. I would have significantly decreased the length of the Battle for Helm's Deep, because in retrospect, having seen the whole trilogy, it seems like Minas Tirith-lite. Jackson's Faramir was a very different character than Tolkien's � that change didn't bother me personally, but many people hated it. Much criticism has also been levelled at Jackson's reworking of the Shelob sequence, which has Gollum manipulating Frodo into sending Sam packing. There was the simplification of previously complex characters like Saruman and Denethor. And of course there's the very unsubtle, physical, gigantic flaming eyeball attached to the top of Barad-d�r. I also missed the Scouring of the Shire, which Tolkien himself said was a necessary and integral part of the story.
I would have reversed (or at least reconsidered) all of the above if I had been in charge � some changes go against the spirit of what Tolkien wrote, and some I just don't like. On the whole, I am very happy with what Jackson did with the trilogy � but I still wish we were getting a different director's take on Middle-earth for once.
Well they were hardly going to say something like [In reply to] Can't Post
'We filmed the whole sequence, then realised it looked silly so we decided to cut it.' Why would they, when they can give a reason that makes them sound concerned about staying close to the book? I think this is a bit like that time they fired Stuart Townsend 'because he was too young'. These explanations shouldn't always be taken at face value.
But sometimes they should [In reply to] Can't Post
These explanations shouldn't always be taken at face value.
The quote Mooseboy posted is hardly the only instance of PJ, Phillipa, Richard Taylor and many others associated with the LOTR movies talking about the care they took to 'get back to Tolkien.' Taken in the context of all the other instances, I think it *can* be taken at face value.
Did they sometimes stray outside of what Tolkien would have done? Of course they did. I don't think anyone can argue that they didn't. Still, I think for every instance where they made significant changes, there are many more where they took the greatest care they could to be as true as they could to the books.
I meant no disrespect to them [In reply to] Can't Post
but I think if the scene they filmed with Aragorn and Sauron had turned out really fantastic, then they would have included it in spite of its differences from the books. Faithfulness to Tolkien was probably a factor in the decision, but I don't think it was the only one.
Lets also not forget [In reply to] Can't Post
That they were trying to make the best movie they could. And there are some excellent and integral parts of Tolkien's books that just don't work as well in a movie. The scouring of the shire is a great example of this. It's one of the most potent chapters in the book, to have Frodo come back from the cracks of doom to find the same evil has come even to the shire.
But it would kill the movie. Especially a movie that necessitates a lot of endings as it is - lots of plot to tie up etc, to have the Scouring left in would have been very anticlimactic.
In so many situations any attempt to transfer Tolkien to the screen must be purchased with some amount of unfaithfulness to the text. It's usually only the geography, and the "iconic moments" that can remain exactly as Tolkien described. And even then everyone's imaginations work differently.
I'm not too worried. Jackson and co seem to try and be as faithful to Tolkien as possible while keeping priority number one making the best movie possible. That compromise worked well enough for me for the trilogy.
The only way Scouring of the Shire could have worked: if LOTR would have been made as a TV-series with 1 hour long episodes, so it could have an episode of it's own.
I concur [In reply to] Can't Post
Reading your post I realize that Jackson's LOTR is the one thing in this world that I am a complete fanboy about. At the time though, I remembered cursing him for not leaving in Saruman's death and the mouth of Sauron...but looking back, I wouldn't change the films at all. I would LOVE to see another director take on Tolkien in the future but I can't say I'm disappointed he's doing the Hobbit. Having Frodo at the beginning of the film doesn't bother me personally...it would be great to see GDT take on Bereliand but I doubt the Tolkien estate would allow it...
Sam and his family were [In reply to] Can't Post
only visiting the Gaffer at #3 Bagshot Row at the end of Return of he King. They lived up on the hill in Bag End.
Oh, well, welcome to TORn then Bran [In reply to] Can't Post
as for keeping things in order, near the top right of your screen you will see a button that either says "View Flat Mode" or "View Threaded." Click on it if it says "View Threaded" and the thread will change to a branch-like set up. In Threaded mode, though you can only see the content of one post at a time, you can see the direction the main thread (conversation) and side discussions are going. It is also easier to target your replies so they are more likely to be read by the member whose post you are commenting on.
In short, Flat Mode sorts the conversation by date and time while Threaded sorts posts into linear conversations and it's tangents (aka asides, side discussions, sub-threads) such as this one
In both Threaded and Flat Mode if you are not sure who is responding to whom you can trace a comment to the post that inspired it by clicking the blue "In reply to" tag next to the subject line (aka post heading).
Hint to Bran: [In reply to] Can't Post
Flat mode is better.
yes yes yes! [In reply to] Can't Post
I love that idea!
Except, he would have read riddles in the dark, and isn't he fairly clueless about where the Ring comes from until Gandalf fills him in? (someone with better movie knowledge, or book knowledge, please fill me in!)
Also, what about the white council stuff?
Love the tie-in idea though!
No-no Threaded always! [In reply to] Can't Post
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don't like it [In reply to] Can't Post
I absolutely hate this idea. I would have been fine with seeing Frodo in a sort of epilogue, but not this. I would so much rather that the two hobbit films be set in the present and stand on their own feet, not be forced to be seen through the lens of LOTR. I'm all for connecting the two stories, but this just seems like a gratuitous way to shove cameos into the hobbit.
Well this changes everything [In reply to] Can't Post
I don't know if I like this news or not, it gave me a knot in my stomach so maybe I'm not too keen but I guess I'll learn to like it. As good as it will be to see Frodo again I always imagined these movies to be stand alone. I really hope the whole movie isn't narrated by Frodo or anyone else. Oh well bring on the next big news.
Ruijor
Call Guiness World Of Records! [In reply to] Can't Post
as this is turning into a hyper-casted kind of blockbuster as never seen before!
Thanks Silverlode [In reply to] Can't Post
I am angered easily by naysayers. I trust PJ and Weta's filmmaking abilities on the same level that I trust Tolkiens writing abilities. And therefore, i trust their decisions.
and I also think that by tying the Hobbit movies with LOTR they have a great chance of enhancing the story and making Bilbo's journey more powerful than it is in the book. I always thought that Jackson's greatest strength as a filmmaker is foreshadowing and creating a sense of inevitable doom, so I rather can't wait to see what he does with the one ring in the Hobbits.
*runs away and hides*
(This post was edited by LoremIpsum on Jan 9 2011, 8:02am)
If that's not Sam's own door closing [In reply to] Can't Post
at the very end of the movie, I think the sense of bittersweet homecoming expressed in the words "Well, I'm back" would be lost. To me, whether or not Sam inherits Bag End is secondary to the knowledge that he "inherits" the life that Frodo's sacrifice has bought ("...you have so much to be, and to do. Your part in the story will go on.") The last scene is about coming home, and starting to live that life.
I can imagine that Sam found out after this that Frodo had left him Bag End, but reading the scene as if he already lived there, and that when he closes the yellow door he's not in his own home, would just spoil the scene for me.
14 foot bad guys [In reply to] Can't Post
They may come up against that same problem again, depending on how and if the cover Dol Guldur.
Aragorn and the cliff [In reply to] Can't Post
I never bought the reasons for Aragorn falling from the cliff either. There was no need for it, and I didn't like it. I didn't particularly like some of the Legolas stuff either, particularly the snowboarding, and JRD's Gimli grated at times, especially the Dwarf tossing and swimming nonsense.
SirDennis, Macfalk [In reply to] Can't Post
Thanks for that. I've tried the various formats, but still struggle. I don't want to come on and start criticising, it's fine. It would be nice if there was a 'quote' option, so it's immediately clear who one is responding to, or indeed a 'multiquote' option, which I would have used in responding to you both at the same time, but I can live with it.
I've lurked for many years, btw.
For anyone who's interested, I live in Wales and, spend my summers in Dale. The real Dale!
Tying in The Hobbit with LOTR [In reply to] Can't Post
Tolkien himself did this, don't forget. He originally wrote the Hobbit as a stand alone book, then went back and changed it so that it fitted in with LOTR. He then went further, in The Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales, to explain how the events in the Hobbit came about, and explained what went on to make them happen.
Whilst it is clear that the story originally started out as a single tale, it's very, very clear that Tolkien saw this tale as part of the whole picture, one piece in the jigsaw puzzle. To my mind, it's absolutely fine to replicate that in the films.
and then... [In reply to] Can't Post
and then he wisely gave up on trying to make THE HOBBIT something it wasn't. The End.
Well he didn't need to [In reply to] Can't Post
Having altered the Hobbit from the original, and then added to the story in LOTR, UT and TS, the tale was complete.
You are free to believe what ever you want as am I. [In reply to] Can't Post
Bag End belonged to Sam & Family at the end of the book and I like it the way The Professor told it much better than PJ's revision.
"And so it was settled. Sam Gamgee married Rose Cotton in the Spring of
1420, which was also famous for its weddings, and they came and lived at Bag
End. And if Sam thought himself lucky, Frodo knew that he was more lucky
himself; for there was not a hobbit in the Shire that was looked after with such
care. When the labours of repair had all been planned and set going he took to a
quiet life, writing a great deal and going through all his notes."
Not so much belief as a matter of perspective -- [In reply to] Can't Post
It is established that Lady FarFromHome's knowledge of the books is firm and her observations on Tolkien's work often profound.
However, if I may go out on a limb once more, her perspective seems to be that it is important that the movies remain true to themselves, regardless of any deviation from Tolkien's written version of events. I might add, this perspective seems to be shared by many around here.
But you are correct that we are all entitled to our own beliefs. It is interesting how both works (PJ's and Tolkien's) spark our imaginations, wondering about and filling in gaps before, during, and after the tales are told.
I wish there was a like option like facebook [In reply to] Can't Post
because I would like the hell out of your post Bran!
I've hung out on TORN for long enough to know the very loud dissenting opinion of fans of The Hobbit who are mad that the film won't be a stand alone story like the book is. They are worried that the filmmakers or the *evil* studio are trying to piggyback The Hobbit onto the shoulders of the trilogy for more $ or whatever but that doesn't hold much weight with me.
The fact is that The Hobbit is not a stand alone story anymore - in any form. Even the book has been altered since it's 1937 publication and the story has been absorbed into the amazing mythos of Tolkien's universe.
To not bring this into the movies would be a huge mistake - it makes the story even more epic and it allows for a more grown up tone to the whole thing.
They are still telling Bilbo's story - the casting clearly proves this - but they are going to do it in a way that brings more of Tolkien's Middle Earth to life!
If you want a faithful stand alone Hobbit movie watch the Rankin Bass cartoon - it's actually still pretty good even after all these years! (Even without Beorn)
But we have two years to wait and it's clear as a button now that Jackson and co are making The Extended Hobbit (if you will) so I wonder how much longer we're still going to be hearing the fan backlash of "I wish they hadn't" - hopefully not for the whole two years!
Bag End [In reply to] Can't Post
In the 'Tale of the Years' Sam is still living in Bag End. There's a passage which mentions him riding out from there to go to Gondor to see Aragorn. I also thought there was a passage somewhere which refers to Frodo giving Sam the keys to Bag End, although I cannot for the moment remember which text it is in. It may even be in a version in 'The History of Middle Earth'.
I think that was in Sauron Defeated [In reply to] Can't Post
It was a sort of epilogue chapter that Tolkien cut from Return of the King, if I recall correctly.
Quite possibly [In reply to] Can't Post
I get confused, especially after reading 'The History of Middle Earth'. I thought I recalled a paragraph or two about Gandalf explaining his thoughts behind killing Smaug to prevent Sauron using him, but I cannot find where I read that either!
That was The Quest of Erebor [In reply to] Can't Post
from Unfinished Tales.
"Naysayers" [In reply to] Can't Post
This is more or less a reply to you agreeing with you--but I'd like to address our new friends like Bran, Nob, Arda etc
Some of us are not "naysayers" as much as merely VERY concerned, and there are good reasons. I consider myself neither "naysayer" nor cheerleader--my position might be a bit complicated.
Tying TH inside an LOTR "candy-wrapper" Prologue/Epilogue, with a bit of TH "voice-oever" narration by Elijah, does not concern me. If it is done carefully and jusiciously, in that it ensures a smooth flowing of the story, is fine with me. I was always of the opinion that some sort of "tie-in" with LOTR was inevitable, on tghe part of the film-makers--a film franchise/story being much different than the book. And maybe it is for the best, since the four screenwriters had a much more difficult task this time around. At first blush, adapting LOTR seems like the harder task, b/c of its massive scope. But it was a single version of a single dtory, written for adults, with elements that made it more adaptable for modern audiences. But with TH we have a conundrum: which "Hobbit" to use? The 1937 origional fireside-tale for 6 yr old children, which the world fell in love with and which is the basis for every school stage play worldwide down the years, OR Tolkien's later revision of his middle-aged years, seemingly tyoing in closer with LOTR? With its more "adult" tone? (We shall see if this is the case.) And how to sneak in any Unfinished Tales material, if they decided to do so, and I think they may have tried to? SO there isn't even one version of TH.
(Makes me wonder: if the world had been introduced to Tolkien's later version first,, would TH have been as beloved as it has been? The charming sugar-coated tale is qwuite complelling. When you get down to barss tacks, TH is a pretty grim tale.)
I always thought that a happy medium could be reached: the story beginning light-hearted and whimscial as LOTR did, with the Party, and getting darker. Are people upset that this seems to confirm a darker more LOTR-like tone and look and feel to TH, no "whimsy" (and that is a loaded word), that this means the film version of the 1937 Hobbit is dust, or that they don't want a repeat of Jackson's LOTR?
Myself, I had no concerns about the story at the scriptwriting stage. I have no doubts about the team of Peter, Fran, Philippa, and Guillermo to craft a compelling and awe-inspiring tale, every bit as faiythful to the spirit and heart and soul of Tolkien's tale. And I can tolerate some slight deviatins. What concerns me though are elements of the storytelling every bit as important as words on the page. And thismay interfere with the effect of the words on the page.
Statements like" I trust Peter's writing/story-telling abilities as much as I trust Tolkien's writing abilities" are a bit (pardon me, I am not trying to put down anbybody, just stating an opinion) very presumptuous. You have to remember that no film is independant of the times it is birthed in--it does not exist in blank space. Many factors go in to it to make it what it is. TH has had a long and torturous history even before it was green-lit, and thingsd are not going to get easier from here.
The thing that concerns me is that we are working wigth a different person in a different era. 10-12 yrs ago The Peter Jackson that we fell in love with was a solid film-maker with a string of middle-brow "hits" in his pocket: little film gems that had placved him just bubbling under the radar,. He was in that best of times for a film-maker, as for a muscian, in some aspects: when you are enough in the spotlight for people to be noting what you do, but you still have the freedom from heat to be allowed that innicebtly questing spirit, that senese of fun and excitement and adventure. The Peter Jackson we came to know and love was a jolly "hobbit" who was building his kingdom down in NZ and still looked upon the world with a wondering eye--in his film at least. Even HC had its sense of playful mischeviousness in the midde passages of the film. Then the "Beautiful madness" of 2001-03 came and went and we saw him transform before our eyes. Mr Cere I remember wrote a fascinating article about "the new Peter Jackson" a few yrs back. (I widh a link could be found).
But that was before King Kong, before The Lovely Bones, and before all the manifold troubles of TH's birth. Before he became a Mogul. In some aspects, he has not changed--less so than you would think. He is a fascinating dicotomy--a lot more is hidden behind that placid experior than you think,, and maybe the Kiwis have seen more of it than the world at large. Some would argue that this sideof him came out with a bang during the recent labor dispute, and maybe it did, but I think there was also a lot of genuine reactionary and well-deserved angler there.
I think there were many reasons why Jackson did not origionally want to direct. (and maybe why he still doesn;t.) Fear of haivng to top himself (and how much more is that fear now, it will permeate every hour in the editing room). And a desire, perhaps, to hand Middle-Earth off into different hands. Not a passing of the torch as much as a sense that the franchise did indeed need fresh new blood. Many of us don't as much "defer to Del Toro';s opinions" as much as continue to remember and pay homage to the fact that for more than *two years* he was Peter's hand-picked DIRECTOR of this massive project, and such a deciusion is not made lightly. Someday we might ask Peter point-blank why he wanted to hand Middle-Earth off to someone else, at least in the director's chair. Which is a HUGE deal.
It is a director's ethis that pervades an entire project. Even if he (or she) did niot write the thing, it is their look, their vision, that shows up onscreen, if they are an illustragtor it is their vision you see. It;s their DoP, their Art Directors, their production design and FX teams,. It's their worldview that we experience. It's any last-minute script revisions that we get in the final cut (and we know how Peter works on this:). I think that having Del Toro collaberating on the writing phase was the BEST thing that could have happened to Peter, as it reminded him of why he fell in klove with the moviesL: he rediscovered (from what we we have heard of the collabveration) the sense of FUN and JOY, that sense of chilld-like excitement, that it is so easy to lose wheb one becomes a MOGUL--and when your worldview and film-making aesthtics are set in stone,. Let's hopw these elements of the process will survive onscreen.
NOw we have a Jackson who has been gthrough, for better or worse, Pelennor Fields. It reminds me of how the film Mery and Puippin remained hobbit-like ungtil that final battle, which changed them forever. Now Jackson is sans his "brother in arms" director (for whatever reason, though I think it had a lot more to do than scheduling conflicts), and permanently scarred by the Pelennor Fileds of the labor dispute, which IMO went on for far longer than the public saw. And now he has had a confrontationakl meeting with his WB bosses in NZ, and who knows what artistic consessions they got from him? And he is in the exact postion he sought so stringly to avoid: rushing to meet frantic deadlines before a camera has rolled, making up for lost time, under pressure from the studio. struggling tio top himself, and cosncious of the fwct thq Del Toro is *still* mourned by many fans worldwide in this projecft--and the world;s media will betaqlking about TLB and remembering Del Toro also.
THe one aspect of Del Toro that I was eagerly looking forward to onscreen was that he was a man of "OLd WOrld" sensibilty. That is, he is an intellectual in the truw sense of the word--he , unlike many American and British contemporaries (or NZ for that matter) still viewes the world primarily through lirerature, through books--while Jackosn, Spileberg, Lucas, even Coppola and Scorcese and almost every other Hollywod director are products of the TV age: their main cinemastic insopirations are from the world of TV, movies, video. Thwy get the big second-hand. I could go off on tbis, It doesn;t make one better or worse..it;'s a different way of working, that's all.
There are other aspects f Del Toro I could go on about--and since Nob addressed PL I could reply to that, but I won't (yet). For me that's a whole nother topic. But there are those of us who felt that this franchise needed an Irvin Kershner, as Peter Jackson needed to re-discover himself. And he desperately needs that sense of fun and adventure back...and someine to tell him when to rein it in. Fran and Philippa couk do that...but they haven;t ben winning the battles lately, it seems..CGU or otherwise.
It's in The Return of the King [In reply to] Can't Post
'In the next day or two Frodo went through his papers and his writings with Sam, and he handed over his keys'.
('The Grey Havens')
Sunflower, Thanks for that [In reply to] Can't Post
I appreciate your point of view. I really don't want to start getting involved in calling people Naysayers and so on. Tolkien's works have sold hunderds of millions of copies, and yet I doubt any two fans would make exactly the same films. Ultimately, what we all see when we imagine Tolkiens worlds are different. Unless the professor himself was here to settle arguments about what is, and what is not the right thing to do, we'll never know the 'truth'.
I said earlier, that if I had my way, I'd squeeze every tiny piece of Tolkien in from all his works, but that's just my opinion. Copyright prevents that, and so does the movie making process. I'm still a fan of adding in as much of what we know was happening at the time of the Hobbit as possible, others will say that it should be strictly what Tolkien writes about in that one book. No problem, both viewpoints are born out of a love of the material, so it's all good.
Ultimately, my position comes from nearly 40 years of devouring new Tolkien material, and remaining hungry.
When I heard that LOTR was being made into a film, and Bakshi's cartoon came out, I was blown away. I loved it, and remember being so dissapointed when I found out the second half would not be made.
Compare that with what Peter Jackson did, and it's the difference in depth between The Hobbit and The Silmarillion. I'll always love PJ for that.
I'm still hungry. I still want more. And more.
I'm not sure how I feel about GDT. I trusted him, love his films and I'm sure the new films would have been great with him at the helm. I do firmly believe that the whole crew, not just PJ, will give their all in these new films. I'll love much of it, and wince at other biits, I'm sure, but they are just fans too, and that's their view. Mine might be different, but I don't make films!
Thanks [In reply to] Can't Post
Ah, thanks for that Geordie. I thought I remembered it from somewhere. I forget the detail that is in LOTR sometimes, having read so many of the other worls.
That's the book. [In reply to] Can't Post
I thought we were talking about the movie...
In the book, as geordie says, Frodo gives the keys of Bag End to Sam before they ride away to the Grey Havens.
Earlier, of course, the hobbits had returned from their adventure to find Bagshot Row destroyed and Bag End badly damaged and full of filth. Sam organises the rebuilding of Bagshot Row and then moves back there while overseeing the repairs to Bag End, while Frodo remains at the Cottons'. When Frodo finally moves back, after Sam has everything ready, he invites Sam to move in with him - at this point Frodo doesn't know that Sam has "spoken" to Rosie and is planning to get married. When he finds out, he invites them both to move in. And then, when he leaves, he gives the keys to Sam - and on the way to the Havens, once Sam understands what's happening, he makes it explicit: "...you are my heir: all that I had and might have had I leave to you."
But that's the book. In the film, there's no Scouring of the Shire - no desecration of Bag End, no heroics to shake the Shire hobbits out of their smug beliefs, no need to Sam to repair Bag End and replant the trees of the Shire. And, as far as I can see, no need to have Sam move into Bag End for us to understand that Frodo has left him "all that I had and might have had" - simple happiness like Sam's is the fundamental thing that Frodo had to give up to save the Shire, and it's what he explicity gifts to him at the Havens ("you have so much to enjoy, and to be, and to do..."). The house is just a symbol of that, in the book. And it's not a symbol that's used in the movie. In the movie, I'd say, it's seeing Sam stay in his own humble home, neither wanting nor expecting any other reward, that makes the final scene so moving. Or at least, it is for me...
My apologies, FFH [In reply to] Can't Post
I must have been being a bit thick.
No argument about that. [In reply to] Can't Post
In fact, if you read my post carefully, you'll see that I never mentioned "belief" at all. I only talked about "imagining". This is, after all, just a story. And stories can be retold many ways, and still be "true" in the ways that matter. I love Tolkien's version too. But I also like PJ's version, and in particular I love having another version of the story - looking at things from more than one perspective is very enriching, I find. But I find it much easier to appreciate the film if I try not to crowbar bits of the book into it, and simply let the film tell the story in its own way. That way, I don't need to decide which version to "believe", or even to choose between them at all - I get to have them both!
But certainly, if you do prefer to mix and match, I wouldn't presume to suggest you shouldn't. Every story speaks to everyone in its own way.
Just to clarify [In reply to] Can't Post
"The naysayers will still be there opening day."
I'm sorry, but comments like this always annoy the cuss out of me.
I never said I'd be boycotting these films. I never said these movies would be horrible and an insult to Tolkien.
I expressed my personal disappointment in some of the choices being made with this project - Elijah Wood's inclusion being the most recent. I, like many others, have the right to disagree with the filmmakers from time to time. As much as I love the LoTR trilogy, there are plenty of changes, omissions, and additions that had me rolling my eyes and shaking my head. Loving the trilogy doesn't mean that I have to love every single aspect about them, nor does it mean that I am obligated, as a fan, to put my absolute trust in PJ from here on out.
I wanted the story told in the present tense. I wanted the story to be able to stand on its own. I wanted no more LoTR tie-ins than what was absolutely necessary. These are individual, personal wishes, mind you. But they explain why I am adamantly against the proposed inclusion of Elijah Wood.
To have story of The Hobbit read by Frodo during the LoTR timeline is absolutely unnecessary. It adds nothing to the story of The Hobbit. All it does is change The Hobbit into a LoTR flashback, and a LoTR prequel/sequel (depending on whether Frodo is reading Bilbo's book before or after the events of LoTR).
The Hobbit already contains enough tie-ins with LoTR as is. We have Bilbo Baggins, Gandalf the Grey, Elrond, Gollum, and the One Ring. We see Bilbo meeting Gollum and finding the One Ring - the event that sets up the very events of LoTR. Why do these films need more tie-ins to LoTR other than these characters and this crucial scene?
I am not a naysayer. I haven't condemned the films, and I haven't called PJ a hack. I am simply a fan of The Hobbit who is disappointed with some choices PJ and Co. have made (this includes GDT, who was involved in the script-writing process). I don't appreciate being accused of something I am not. I am no less of a fan for not keeping blind faith in every decision PJ makes.
(This post was edited by duats on Jan 9 2011, 9:15pm)
No need... [In reply to] Can't Post
to apologise! I enjoyed having an excuse to revisit my favourite chapter of LotR!
Why, thank you Sir Dennis [In reply to] Can't Post
That's a great way of putting it - "it is important that the movies remain true to themselves". I guess that is how I feel. Although I also agree with you that everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, and their own way of seeing the story. I didn't mean to imply otherwise, and I'm glad you made that point yourself so clearly.
I wanted no more LoTR tie-ins than what was absolutely necessary. [In reply to] Can't Post
The difficulty, duats, is when it comes down to defining 'absolutely necessary'. It's a subjective opinion - what some people here feel may be 'absolutely necessary' may not be what others feel. What the film makers see as 'absolutely necessary' may not seem so for the rest of us. I know, from watching the appendices, that some sequences they felt were 'absolutely necessary' for the movie version, I did not, and vice versa.
If I remade the flims and they grossed more than the original films, I guess I could say I was right and they were wrong. Until I do that, I can disagree, but have to accept they knew what they were talking about!
I think we can all agree that Bilbo stumbling into the cave, meeting Gollum, and finding/taking The One Ring is absolutely necessary.
I think we can all also agree that the inclusion of Gandalf the Grey is necessary.
Outside of that, I really don't know what other tie-ins to LoTR are necessary. You have two major characters from LoTR, and you have the single scene that brought about the events of LoTR. Plus, as mentioned in the past, we also have:
-Elrond
-The Shire and Bag-End
-Rivendell
-The Misty Mountains
-The Eagles
-Balin (mentioned by name in LoTR)
A brief cameo by Legolas, while unnecessary, can at least be argued to make sense - given that he is Thranduil's son and could very well have been present in Mirkwood when Bilbo and the Dwarves passed through. So while I'm not a particular fan of it (mostly because I dislike Bloom), it is relatively harmless (so long as it is a brief cameo and nothing more).
I've already expressed my concerns regarding the White Council/Dol Guldur scenes, so that doesn't need repeating.
I am genuinely curious. What else, in your opinion, is necessary to connect these films to LoTR? I'm not arguing what you said about this matter being subjective. I just honest-to-God can't think of anything else that PJ could think was absolutely crucial - to the point that it HAS to happen.
P.S., your adaptation making more or less money wouldn't make you right or wrong. As that is also a matter of subjectivity .
I agree with basically everything you said [In reply to] Can't Post
but a lot of people seem to forget that PJ was very busy (or supposed to be) at the time the Hobbit was finally starting. He was still working on the Lovely Bones, and he had other projects that he was committed to at the time:
-District 9
-the Tintin movies
-the Dam Busters
-Halo
-a potential video game
Those projects are either done now or never happened, so it's easier for us to say now "well why didn't he just want to do the Hobbit in the first place?" But I'm not saying these projects were the only reason he didn't choose to direct from the beginning.
I don't think it was even really an option for him at the time. What was it? Three or four years ago? A lot has changed since then, and am I the only one that remembers him saying something "now I kind of regret not being the one directing it"? I think he said something like that in the last year or so as the script writing process was underway. He was obviously getting sucked into Middle-earth again, and I think he wanted to stay longer. Not that he regretted GDT being involved.
I wish I could find where/when he said that.
(This post was edited by Mooseboy018 on Jan 9 2011, 9:57pm)
Making Bilbo's journey more powerful than it is in the book. [In reply to] Can't Post
Just what do you think is weak about Bilbo's journey as it was written?
OK, I'm repeating myself, too..... [In reply to] Can't Post
Firstly, the point about the films gross value was meant to explain how you measure their success. If the films attract a lot of paying customers, they have been successful in the eyes of the filmmakers. Now yes, technically, they could be very poorly attended, lose money and still be loved by a few Tolkien fans and the critics and you COULD call that successful but.....anyway, I digress.
As for essential, as I said earlier, I see Balin's story as essential. If it's not covered, you end up with a major character who seemingly lives happily ever after at the end of the Hobbit, turning up dead somewhere else in FOTR.
For me, the White Council stuff is essential. Gandalf disppears in the Hobbit, meets up with Elrond, Galadriel, Saruman and so on, and launches an attack on Sauron. Not told in the Hobbit, and not seen in LOTR, so needs to be told.
I'd go further. I'd want an explanation of why the Dwarves turn up at Bag End in the first place. Unfortunately, I don't think we are going to be allowed to see that part of the story.
Legolas, for me, is far from essential. He MIGHT have been present when Bilbo's party passed, Tolkien doesn't say either way. Aragorn (as Estel) MIGHT have been at Rivendell when they passed, as might Arwen, but these facts tell us nothing. No story, no exposition, nothing. To me, they are unnecessary. Story pertaining to how and why the quest for Erebor came about, Sauron's story/White Council, Balin, even how Frodo came to be with Bilbo, are important, and fill in lots of detail.
To me, essential, but as I say, it's subjective, and that's just one fan's opinion.
Thanks geordie [In reply to] Can't Post
You saved me from quoting the whole chapter.
Here's another question [In reply to] Can't Post
Frodo will be reading "There and Back Again," so we are seeing the events of The Hobbit as written by Bilbo.
So given this format, how are they going to make the White Council and Dol Guldur scenes work, given that Bilbo wasn't present for those events? How would he have them recorded? How would he know what all was said? Or how they drove the Necromancer from the tower. I doubt Gandalf would have told him every single detail regarding the Council and their seige on Dol Guldur. To my knowledge, all Gandalf told Bilbo of the whole affair was that he went away to deal with the Necromancer - without getting into too many specific details. I'll have to double check.
If the events of The Hobbit were being told in real-time, and not strictly through Bilbo's eyes, this wouldn't be an issue.
(This post was edited by duats on Jan 9 2011, 10:35pm)
Regarding Balin [In reply to] Can't Post
All we need is one line from Balin detailing his plans to return to Moria.
As for the White Council/ Dol Guldur scenes, considering these events were not addressed at all in the LoTR trilogy, I don't think they are altogether necessary.
Gandalf going in and out of the narrative not only keeps emphasis on Bilbo and the Dwarves, but it adds tension to the story (the Company is without their powerful guide). His comings and goings can be chalked up to the fact that he is a wizard, and has other dealings around Middle-earth. I think not knowing where he is adds mystery to the character, and thus makes him more compelling and wizardy.
Just my opinion, of course. I love Balin, and making mention of Moria would certainly be welcomed. But we don't need to actually see him journey there after-the-fact.
Just Say Nay! [In reply to] Can't Post
It is really interesting how these events turn and how people, blinded by their desires, feel free to cast those who do not agree with them into categories of convenience. I willfully say nay to many things he see expounded on these pages. I also say yes upon occasion.
Now when is it that the thirty seven fully armed Mumakils show up at The Battle of the Fife Armies? Is that before of after Smaug is resurrected and the Balrog from Moria comes out to join the battle?
It appears that the only non-essential things that might be included in these two films [In reply to] Can't Post
are the events that actually take place within the book.
My pleasure - [In reply to] Can't Post
- and, the same goes for bran, too. Hope you don't mind my replying to both of you good gents at once.
'Just say Nay' [In reply to] Can't Post
Oh, I shall - just as often as I feel there's a need.
Jan 10 2011, 12:10am
I don't know how those things work [In reply to] Can't Post
Duats, but, it seems, given teh castings, that we will find out.
Whilst I don't think it is necessary [In reply to] Can't Post
to have half an hour backstory on Balin, I don't think a sentence will do either. I expect to see maybe a couple of minutes dealing with it, no more, really.
As I said earlier Kangi [In reply to] Can't Post
It's subjective. What you feel is essential and what I see as essential are two viewpoints. Two fans with different opinions. Both are valid.
shadowdog
Jan 10 2011, 1:56am
Speculation is not fact [In reply to] Can't Post
We don't know that Frodo will narrate The Hobbit. That is speculation. We have no idea what role, or how big a role, Frodo will have in The Hobbit. I prefer to wait for the actual film to see what it will contain.
As long as the opening is set during "The Hobbit" timeline [In reply to] Can't Post
I'd be more inclinded to go with LOTR-era cameos if they didn't open the film. Opening on Bag End with Old Bilbo reading the story of Frodo would be nice (we saw as much in the FOTR EE) but I think the opening should be "Hobbit"-centric.
Jan 10 2011, 3:49pm
Who said Bilbo's journey was weak? [In reply to] Can't Post
Just because something can be improved in some way does not mean that it was originally poor. I believe that viewing the story of Bilbo through the lens of Frodo's nostalgia could be a powerful augmentation to the story, but that doesn't mean that I think there was something wrong with the way the story was presented in the book itself. Both angles are good... but one, I think, has the potential to be better if done right.
Remember what Frodo said to Bilbo in Rivendell?
I miss the Shire. I spent all my childhood pretending I was off somewhere else... off with you on one of your adventures! My own adventure turned out to be quite different... I�m not like you, Bilbo.
This is exactly the nostalgic, regretful, moving feel I'm talking about. It's the story of The Hobbit, viewed through the eyes of Frodo. I'm sure we'll see this aspect of both Bilbo's story and Frodo's character explored much more deeply in the bookend scenes... and I'm really starting to think it was a good idea to add them.
I raised the same question earlier [In reply to] Can't Post
I wondered if perhaps Gandalf would interrupt Frodo's reading of the Red Book to tell his own side of the story, or if the filmmakers would just plough straight into the White Council scenes and hope that nobody remembers there was no way Bilbo would have those things recorded in his memoirs.
Improvement is a very relative term [In reply to] Can't Post
The Hobbit has been around 70+ years. It seem to me that it really does not need to be improved.
I suppose the question is........ [In reply to] Can't Post
...... if Frodo is to be our doorway into the story of Bilbo's adventure, how far do the filmmakers want us to go on being aware of his presence as the story unfolds? If they do then perhaps there will be little chunks of narration, or Gandalf breaking in to describe the Dol Guldur story...
I can't imagine that making for a very satisfactory film. Maybe I'm wrong and they've seen possibilities I'm missing, but it seems to me that if they follow that route there's too much risk of ending up with a neither-one-thing-nor-the-other presentation in which we as audience can't get really involved in Bilbo's story because we keep being taken out of it. Too much will be told and not shown.
I prefer the idea of a pre-'The Shadow of the Past' Frodo leading us in and then stepping back to let 'The Hobbit' take over completely, perhaps returning at the end of film one, beginning of film two, or not returning at all until the very end. that way 'The Hobbit' is as independent as it can be while still being drawn into the overall film adaptation.
But of course I might change my mind completely when I see how they've done it!
Maybe nobody knows [In reply to] Can't Post
watching the EE behind the scenes you really get a glimpse into Jackson's film making style and he does quite a bit of story work in post production. From what I saw on the documentaries the Rings scripts were evolving all the time during shooting and even with lots of pre-planning the stories really came together in the editing bay.
That being said all we know for sure is who is in the movie - a press release says Elijah Wood is back - TORN says it has something to do with the Red Book.
Everything else is just our imaginations trying to force square pegs into triangular holes. We don't know how big the role is, or how the Red Book is involved.
I'm trying to expand my mind beyond just the story being read from that book and when I do that I can see many cool ways of incorporating Frodo in at the beginning or ending of The Hobbit in a way that augments the viewing of the trilogy.
But I'll be really surprised if they overlap timelines - I think it more likely to keep the whole time line of The Hobbit movies as lead up to the trilogy.
From what I remember about the movies there is no reason we can't assume that the whole "There and Back Again" story was already completely written in the Red Book by the time Fellowship starts. Bilbo continues to write in the book, of course, throughout the movie but only "Concerning Hobbits" and other things that would have been written after Bilbo wrote down his other adventures.
As to how it will eventually be done, it's possible that even Peter Jackson won't really know until he's sitting in the editing room with the footage in front of him.
Agreed... [In reply to] Can't Post
Who knows if the frodo material will even make it into the final film. As you say so much is done in the editing room.
Perhpas the decide after the shoot the material that it doesnt work and the movies become a straight forward telling of the hobbit... we just don't know enough about the script and even if we did - Anything can change from now until the first screening of the movie !
Do you really think so? [In reply to] Can't Post
It has existed for seventy years, therefore no attempts to improve the story should be made? I don't think any work of fiction deserves that sort of untouchable, unquestionable status. Of course it doesn't 'need to be improved' � it is already very good � but thoughtful enhancements certainly have the potential to be beneficial to the story.
Strangely absent here: "A squeee heard round the world." / [In reply to] Can't Post
But we know [In reply to] Can't Post
that JRRT made several attempts to 'improve' the tale, to add to it and make it fit better with his full vision. We know he altered Riddles in the Dark, we know he fleshed out the Necromancer backstory and Radagast in LOTR, we know the detail of where the map and key came from and why the Dwarves turned up at Bag End in the first place from UT. We know Gollum's full story from LOTR. Tolkien 'improved' the tale many times and in many ways.
What JRRT did in 'fleshing out' the tale of TH in this way all improved it, for me.
I think it's safe to assume Bilbo knew about Dol Guldur, etc. [In reply to] Can't Post
Bilbo spent what must have been months traveling back from Dale with Gandalf and Beorn, and stayed with Elrond in Rivendell on they way home too. As inquisitive as Hobbits are, I can't imagine he didn't hear many of the details of Gandalf's adventures and maybe even more details from Elrond.
True, Bilbo didn't include those things as part of his There and Back Again tale, but the Red Book is much more than just the story contained between the book-covers of The Hobbit; it ends up containing the entire tale from the Unexpected Party to long after Frodo, and even Sam, sail to the West. From the forward and appendices to LOTR, we already know that not all of the story was published in The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings proper. So, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to assume that bits of the story were added after Bilbo finished There and Back Again and, that in the years between when Bilbo adopted Frodo and the Long Expected Party, Frodo would have had many opportunities to both read The Red Book and pick Bilbo's brain about the adventures.
An additional angle might be that Gandalf visited Bilbo many times in The Shire, and Frodo might have sat by the fire listening to them talk about their old adventures.
Anyway, my point (and I do have one ), is that there are plenty of ways both Bilbo and Frodo would have known some (if not many) of the details of Dol Guldur & the White Council before Frodo picks the book up to read it in the movie.
I very much agree with that altaira [In reply to] Can't Post
I'm fairly certain Gandalf would have used any excuse to smoke some pipeweed and eat some seed cake at Bag End, and the two hobbits would, I'm sure, have quizzed him endlessly on wher he'd been, and what he'd been up to, as well as asking for news of people they knew, or had heard of.
Jan 10 2011, 10:14pm
Posted by Jettorex: CNN.com quoting EW on Elijah Wood appearing in The Hobbit... [In reply to] Can't Post
....says he will be seen narrating Bilbo's story at the beginning of both part 1 and 2. Interesting.
(This post was edited by Altaira on Jan 10 2011, 10:15pm)
He did, to an extent [In reply to] Can't Post
From the last chapter of The Hobbit:
It was in this way he learned where Gandalf had been too; for he overheard the words of the wizard to Elrond. It appeared that Gandalf had been to a great council of white wizards, masters of lore and good magic; and that they had at last driven the Necromancer from his dark hold in the south of Mirkwood.
It looks like I may have been mistaken. He did know of the Council and the expulsion of the Necromancer from Mirkwood. So I guess the question is: would Gandalf really have given him the specifics?
(This post was edited by duats on Jan 10 2011, 11:11pm)
And add to that.... [In reply to] Can't Post
... the little snippet in the Deadline article about Andy Serkis linked on the main page, which says sources tell them Ian Holm is in talks to make a return appearance as Bilbo... Surely that has to be at the beginning or end of the films as well, or as a voice-over, if it's true.
right on [In reply to] Can't Post
I absolutely agree with everything you said. I assumed that the movie would be told in present, and I'm holding out hope that it will be in the finished film. Shoving The Hobbit into a superfluous faming device does nothing to help the story. All it does it add extra time to the movie that could be used for other purposes, or cut for pacing reasons. I'm really hoping that by the time they come to editing that this ends up on the cutting room floor.
grammaboodawg
WAHOOOO!!!!! :D [In reply to] Can't Post
\THIOS IS AWESOMEQ@!!!!!!!! Maybe both!? But to have Elijah as Frodo again.... having Frodo with maybe Bilbo!? OMG!!!!!! I Can't BREAHTE!!!!!!! *runs for meds*
I really need these new films to take me back to, and not re-introduce me to, that magical world.
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After a little thought, in the "it's good" camp [In reply to] Can't Post
The more the two stories are interconnected on film the better as far as I'm concerned. It is after all, one big story. Since time travel machines are not available in Middle Earth, Frodo will be involved either in some narration or some kind of flashback - don't have a problem with that and I like to see some of the actors returning. It's all good.
King Arthur: Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder?
Tim: There are some who call me... Tim?
Questions. Questions??? [In reply to] Can't Post
.....Since Frodo will be seen in the beginning of each movie reading from Bilbo's book (EW.Com),presumably narrating/introducing the events of The Hobbit, when in the context of Middle Earth time/place will he be in when he is doing this? In between events of TH and LOTR? After the events of LOTR? Where will he be? The Shire, Rivendell...Valinor???
I'd really like to see peoples thoughts on this!
Artistic licence [In reply to] Can't Post
I don't think it matters that Bilbo may not have known the specifics of the White Council's adventures. The flashback won't need to follow Bilbo's writings word-for-word � once we get the idea that Bilbo is vaguely aware of the Dol Guldur episode, the flashback can naturally expand itself beyond the scope of his narration and into the Necromancer storyline. At least I think that might work...
Otaku-sempai
Gandalf's report [In reply to] Can't Post
I'm guessing, not at that time. Gandalf probably wrote up a fuller account years later to be included as part of Bilbo's Red Book.
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This could work really well. [In reply to] Can't Post
I am reading Unfinished Tales right now and The Quest of Erebor actually illustrates perfectly how Frodo might fit into The Hobbit movie. In Quest of Erebor, Gandalf and Frodo are in Minas Tirith some time after Aragorn's coronation and Gandalf is telling Frodo about how he bumped into Thorin in Bree and how that "chance" meeting started the chain of events that led to Bilbo going with the dwarves on their journey. If Frodo is going to be in the movie, it seems to me that he will actually just be listening to Gandalf tell the story. It's not my ideal beginning for the movie, but I think it could work really well. I haven't read all 377 of these posts, so forgive me if I'm repeating something that has been said already.
-Thorin Oakenshield
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Skeptical... [In reply to] Can't Post
I'm skeptical of Frodo being in this film. I'm getting flashbacks of the Rankin Bass 'Return of the King' wrap-around, and I certainly hope that's not what they're up to here. 'The Hobbit' needs to be told as a legitimate chapter in the Lord of the Rings story, not as a weird flashback from the imagination of Frodo. It doesn't make any sense to me that 'The Hobbit' film would have such a decidedly un-epic introduction as Frodo reading the book ~ followed up by the completely-epic intro to the Rings trilogy as narrated by Galadriel. If narration is needed, let it be Galadriel, for continuity's sake. Let the introduction be about Gandalf, Thrain and the Necromancer. Hopefully, the insertion of Frodo will be a pleasant surprise and not what I fear it will be.
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The retailer has announced a new partnership with Nintendo that will give subscribers of its loyalty program a free year of Nintendo Switch Online access. That service typically costs Switch owners $20 per year.
At the same time, Amazon is getting wise to people who use the trial window for Prime to claim the best perks. In order to take advantage of this deal, members initially will be allowed to sign up for only three months of free Switch Online access. Then, after 60 days, users can claim the remaining nine months.
There’s a Sept. 24 deadline to sign up for the first part of the perk. The nine-month extension must be claimed by Jan. 22.
The service is tied to Twitch Prime, one of Amazon Prime’s benefits. The free months can be added on to any existing paid Switch Online subscriptions.
The partnership between Amazon and Nintendo is a notable one, as the two companies have not always been on the best of terms. In 2012, for example, Amazon suddenly halted its first party sales of Nintendo hardware. (Resellers were allowed to continue selling the systems, although at prices of their own choosing.)
In 2015 the two began to patch up their differences.
Amazon, which owns Twitch, is widely expected at some point to announce a video game streaming service along the same line of Google’s Stadia. The company has not commented on speculation about such action, including any sort of timeline.
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vol. 89 - January 7, 2013
Highlights in this issue:
"Winds of Change": Yamamotoans in the Crusade?
No rules changes this year!
Chardrois and Allondines advance into Bilgosh!
We've got two events coming up soon!
On January 26: Winds of Change. The Yamamotoans have extended an offer to join the Crusade; what could happen at the treaty summit with the Crusader nations?
On February 23: Keep Your Friends Close. People are disappearing from a Steinlands town near Bilgosh; will you help end the villagers' plight?
There are still open event slots for the rest of the year, starting in March. If you’re interested, contact the Events Committee.
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There are no rules changes for 2013, so the 2012 handbook remains the most current one. You can read it online, or download it at the Downloads page.
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Continuing Game News:
December 31, 1012:
Rhonovia, Bilgosh:
Erkesal, necromancer and Dark Lord of Rhonovia, used ships he captured from crusaders to harass coastal traffic and prevent crusader ships from using sea lanes to support allied armies on land.
After a failed attack on his island fortress, Erkesal's undead warriors took control of the captured ships. The necromancer appears to have put the more intelligent undead in command, leaving the relatively mindless ones to handle the sails and rigging.
Crusader ships that have tried to engage with Erkesal's say that it has been difficult to outrun the unholy ships, since their “sailors” need no sleep and the ships never need to re-provision.
Gri, Bilgosh:
After last autumn's disastrous siege of Gri, in which the crusader armies had hired dwarves to tunnel beneath Castle Gri but were discovered and repelled, the Chardrois army returned in full to Gri and surrounded the castle for a prolonged, traditional siege.
The crusader armies had surrounded Gri in the summer of 1011, setting a hired company of dwarves to tunnel beneath the castle walls. Somehow, the unholy forces seemed to know of the secret tunnel, and made a counter-tunnel of their own, bursting through the rock walls and slaughtering the mostly-defenseless miners. Simultaneously, werewolves attacked the crusaders out of the nearby forest, and the Chardrois and their allies were routed.
Queen Catherine of Chardreau, stating that Gri was of strategic importance, sent Lady Aurelie Pernaine to set siege once more, this time with a larger army and with siege engines. The crusaders found their old tunnel flooded and heavy trapped.
Lunapaza, Bilgosh:
King Harold VI turned eighteen in July, officially taking over the reigns of his kingdom (and command of the Allondine armies) from his uncle, Prince Edmund, who had been acting as regent since the young king took the throne when his mother was deposed in 1011.
In the Allondine camps, many of the younger knights and nobles are said to be pleased that the king now heads the armies, finding the strategies of Prince Edmund and his inner circle to be too slow and lacking in the bold moves that they feel the crusade needs to reach victory. By contrast, the older knights and nobles who prefer the former Regent fear that the young king may be too hasty, attempting reckless strategies that have been proven to fail.
In the Allondine capital of Tolbury, the royal officials running the government remained largely unchanged, which is to say, they are largely Prince Edmund's allies.
Arregal, Ragnorack:
Lord Peter, the first Baron of Arregal, died in his sleep on August 7 at the age of 86.
Lord Peter was the last to survive of the original barons and baronesses created by King Hrungar after Ragnorack was settled by humans. During the chaos and turbulence that marked the end of King Hrothgar's reign in 992, Lord Peter was widely respected for keeping his lands free of bandits and largely spared from trouble. His passing was marked by a sorrowful announcement from King Dmitri, who called Lord Peter “the last of the original, great wolves of Ragnorack.”
Lord Peter is survived by his son Franklin, now the second Baron of Arregal, who had been ruling Arregal in all but name for the last several years as his father's infirmities had worsened.
After months of siege, the Chardrois crusaders took Castle Gri on September 26, raising the Bilgosh standard (with its churchbells emblems) from the parapet.
Rather than risk another disaster with tunneling, the crusaders opted for a traditional long siege, hoping to starve out the defenders. Scouts and rangers patrolled the fringes of the nearby woods, lighting bonfires to guard against any werewolf attacks from the woods. Meanwhile, chaplains and novitiates blessed holy water and sanctified simple carved wooden holy symbols, which the crusaders lobbed over the castle walls with catapults. The crusaders did not know whether these items would weaken the defenders, but they at least hoped to demoralize them.
After five months of waiting, the defenders' supplies -- or their spirits -- broke. Where a mortal defender might have raised the flag of truce and handed over the castle peacefully, Dark Lord Beryx and his minions instead burst worth from the castle walls, heading for the forest and the hills and hoping to make a break past the crusaders. Some of the werewolves are believed to have loped past the Chardrois and escaped, but the vampire's thralls and soldiers did not, nor did Beryx, who slew seven knights before being felled with lightning bolts. He was subsequently staked and burned, and his ashes left to wither in the sunlight.
Much of the Chardrois army remains camped around Gri for the winter.
Vidujevo, Bilgosh:
Crusaders, led by the Allondines, advanced into the hills near Vidujevo in October and captured the mines whose iron supplied many of the nearby Dark Lords.
Newly-minted novices of religious orders held aloft candles as the crusaders approached the mines, forming a protective semi-circle around the entrance, while armored knights, proceeding on foot, braved the mine entrance. The miners were a mix of ghouls and (mortal) humans; the latter quickly surrendered, leaving the knights to fight narrow tunnel battles against the ghouls, the knights' metal armor and shields protecting them from the bites and scratches of the ghouls. The fighting was slow and lengthy, with the knights needing nearly ten hours to reach the bottom of the mine and flush out the last of the undead.
The Allondine armies are now camped for the winter at the river junction, prepared to block any enemy river trade that might attempt to pass, hoping to form a small wedge between the adjacent Dark Lords.
Veneza, Delona:
On November 20, Venezan port officials reported that a ship of unknown provenance sunk off the coast of the Yamamotoan-held island of Nicolia during a bad storm. Yamamotoan ships had already converged on the wreckage, claiming the ship was abandoned and without legal claimant and therefore open to retrieval operations.
The Venezans ordered that the owner of the vessel to report in person with sufficient documentation to establish ownership over any cargo that might be recovered, and that action would thereafter “be undertaken by the Agency to ensure the Return of all Salvage in Accordance with the Law”. The notification added that “Private Action is not recommended by the Agency.”
Trenzano, Delona:
On December 14, his Excellence Rinaldo Caiazzo, Kytan Bishop of Trenzano, announced that documents from the unholy were found in the unclaimed ship that wrecked off the coast of Nicolia in November.
Authorities had sought to identify the ship's owner, but were unsuccessful, thus allowing the Yamamotoans in Seiguntou to salvage the ship's remains. The bishop announced that the Yamamotoans had reported that “the ship, when recovered, contained a vampire in a temporary quiscent state”, and that while the Traladosian clergy had since disposed of the vampire, “documents were also recovered from the wreck outlining plans for a darkling invasion of Yamamoto”. The bishop warned that it was likely that “other vampires or their servitors may remain in the Delonan region”, and that ships were advised to exercise extreme caution when interacting with other vessels.
The bishop further urged that anyone witnessing suspicious behavior indicative of darkling activity should notify their local temple immediately.
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Question 1: The rate and direction of flowing air is measured by the cooling of one of two self-heating ________ and the difference between the thermistor resistances will cause a voltage difference; this is amplified and displayed to the pilot.
Electrical resistance Thermistor Resistance thermometer Electric current
Question 2: In powered ________ the pilot makes frequent use of the VSI to ascertain that level flight is being maintained, especially during turning manoeuvres.
Fixed-wing aircraft Rocket Flying and gliding animals Flight
Question 3: Typically it takes the form of a radio ________ in the plane, and a receiver held by the pilot on the ground.
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Question 4: The term Variometer also refers to a type of variable ________ inductor
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Question 5: Before the invention of the variometer, ________ pilots found it very hard to soar.
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Question 6: In ________, the instrument is used almost continuously during normal flight, often with an audible output, to inform the pilot of rising or sinking air.
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Question 7: Other forms of ________ may also be provided by the system, giving things such as airspeed and battery voltage.
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Question 8: A variometer (also known as a rate-of-climb indicator, a vertical speed indicator (VSI),[1] or a vertical velocity indicator (VVI)) is an instrument in an ________ used to inform the pilot of the instantaneous (rather than averaged) rate of descent or climb.
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Question 9: The instrument is of little interest during launching and landing, with the exception of ________, where the pilot will usually want to avoid releasing in sink.
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Butler & Dick Comparison : Numb & Mechanical
As Rye sits in Obsidian’s car, the mentally crippling emotions of “growing hopelessness, purposelessness” and “jealousy” remind the reader of the enslaved android’s dilemma (99). Rye’s “powerful urge to kill another person” stems not only from her own personal issues, but from the idea that someone could have more ability and access to knowledge and expression (99). Rye nearly snaps when she realizes how she is inferior to Obsidian due to her illiteracy and how easily he may or may not take the ability for granted. The scale of the complaint seems arbitrary, but one more issue is enough to nearly set her over the edge. Her gun has the same killing power of a determined Android like Roy before his father & creator. The text places the smoking gun in the hands of a mentally polarizing character and seems to ask the reader whether or not he or she empathizes with her. Butler seems to be forcing the reader into deciding whether or not one cares if Rye hurts herself, or someone else, or both. Separately, Butler establishes a hyper-focalization on Rye and Rye’s thoughts, whereas Dick spreads some of the world-building into the thought-experiments and androids themselves. Not to hammer the nail too much, but an emotionally numb and unpredictable narrator has the qualities of an insensitive android, but reads as more real and possible. So although the decision remains on how one values the needs of a troubled human vs. a programmed android, the reader response effect develops similarly from a close narration of the darkest of emotional lows.
Author LionheartPosted on November 14, 2016 November 14, 2016 Categories Regular entry, UncategorizedTags android, androids, Blood Child, comparison, do androids dream of electric sheep, empathy, Octavia Butler, Philip Dick, speech soundsLeave a comment on Butler & Dick Comparison : Numb & Mechanical
The problem of the Penfield
“‘My schedule for today lists a six-hour self-accusatory depression,’ Iran said.
‘What? Why did you schedule that?’ It defeated the whole purpose of the mood organ. ‘I didn’t even know you could set it for that,’ [Deckard] said gloomily” (Dick 5)
Although there is plenty more to be uncertain about, Dick sets the scene of the novel with a piece of technology which provokes extremely mixed responses from Deckard and Iran. For Deckard, the Penfield mood organ is a fantastic piece of equipment which allows him to escape the ‘negative’ human emotions and thus lead a more concentrated, efficient, and productive life. For Iran, the mood organ is an interruption of normal, necessarily negative human behavior; since she cannot function outside of the mood organ (thanks in part to her controlling husband) she must manufacture the feelings she believes she would feel without the presence of the Penfield. Interestingly, while the characters certainly have more information about the mood organ and its functions than the reader, this information is far from complete. Deckard does not realize that the mood organ has a range of emotions beyond those he associates as positive; the revelation of this information depresses him. Why is this? Deckard’s relationship with technology is difficult to parse. His job involves ruthless pursuit and destruction of technological ‘life’ forms, but he is dependent on a machine to set the structure of his life and does not dig into the complex workings of the machine. He has a certain faith in the positive effects of certain technology which Iran lacks or feels suspicious towards. There is also a sense of the uncertain progress of technology. The reader must wonder when exactly the Penfield came into being; is this a recent technology, a new model of an older technology, or something that is deeply incorporated into the world? Can we presume that all characters we encounter use a similar system or is Deckard somewhat unique? And the 3 code, a desire to dial something is deeply problematic. It is clear that this world has an inextricable link to technology as a driving force, but the exact limits and reasons are unclear and unavailable. A really fantastic introduction to a delightful and intriguing story.
Author Cass MasternPosted on October 31, 2016 Categories UncategorizedTags ambiguity, androids, characters, emotion, penfield, TechnologyLeave a comment on The problem of the Penfield
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posted Friday, October 21, 2011 - Volume 39 Issue 42
Come out, come out, wherever you are
by David Webb - Special to the SGN
There's probably never before been a safer or more critical time in American culture and politics for LGBT people to come out and acknowledge their identities.
This week when Dan Kloeffler, an ABC News co-anchor on the World News Now show, acknowledged he is Gay during an interview with Star Trek actor Zachary Quinto, he likely caused a lot of people to realize we might just pop up anywhere - even on TV at 3 a.m. The television personality's off-handed quip that he might drop his rule against dating actors in favor of Quinto, who recently came out in a New York Magazine interview, might serve as a good example for members of our community who have thus far opened the closet door only a little bit.
The journalist's declaration hopefully will inspire LGBT people who are tired of listening to Republican presidential candidates backed by evangelical stooges condemn us and threaten to roll back our hard-won human-rights gains.
If there were ever a moment for us to stand up against the likes of Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who was introduced recently at a campaign event by First Baptist Church of Dallas senior pastor Robert Jeffress, it is now. The thought of Jeffress - who has made a pastoral career out of trampling on the rights of LGBT people - having the ear of the next U.S. president ought to be enough to scare anyone into action.
If Jeffress would dare publicly to condemn the Mormon faith of Perry's Republican political rival Mitt Romney in a weaselly attack before reporters after the event, what retributions against our community might he demand in exchange for helping deliver the evangelical vote to Perry in a presidential election?
We're talking about an obsessed man who goes on TV to rail against anyone who doesn't follow his religious philosophy, declaring that merely being a good person is not enough. Anyone who doesn't want to burn in Hell must believe as Jeffress does, according to his sermons.
A friend of Perry's who has known him for more than a half-century told me recently that the governor is more enlightened and tolerant than the LGBT community perceives him to be, but I don't buy that - especially after he failed to condemn Jeffress' outrageous remarks.
The message doesn't get much better over in the camp of Herman Cain, who has vowed to reinstate the anti-Gay discriminatory policy of 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' in the U.S. armed services if he is elected. There are other Republican candidates such as Rick Santorum and Michele Bachmann vying for the party's presidential nomination who are just as scary, but they appear to be trailing so significantly in the polls that they aren't a threat, at least for now.
Veteran LGBT activists have long known and shared their wisdom with us about the need for people to come out and stand united against hypocrisy and bigotry, and much has been accomplished as a result. There is strength in numbers, and to quote one of my favorite Gay activists, William Waybourn of Washington D.C., 'if everyone who is Gay came out at once, the discrimination and bullying would stop immediately.'
That obviously won't happen, but it does present a strong argument for a massive, non-threatening demonstration that is the philosophy of National Coming Out Day. This year's event has already passed, but there is nothing to stop us from declaring 2012 a National Coming Out Year in light of the importance of the national election.
Bullying is something everyone needs to remember and condemn, and it's what Kloeffler said was on his mind when he came out on national television in the early morning television broadcast. He was referring to a Gay teenager, 14-year-old Jamey Rodemeyer of Buffalo, N.Y., who had valiantly fought intolerance and violent anti-Gay discrimination to the point of posting a YouTube video for the It Gets Better Project, only to finally succumb to suicide when he lost the will to endure more intolerance from his peers.
Although Kloeffler was likely confident he would suffer no repercussions at work or in his personal life by his admission, it was still a courageous move, apparently undertaken in an effort to help others in less comfortable situations. Too many people who could make a difference sit by idly and silently when opportunities arise to speak out against intolerance and discrimination, and Kloeffler acknowledged he had been one of those people for quite some time.
When it comes to anti-Gay discrimination and bullying or any other class of prejudice, situations just don't get any better without concerted resistance on the part of the oppressed. I know this because I have in the past tried to reason with evangelical Christians, including a close associate of Jeffress', whom I have known most of my life.
Their reaction to my pleas for compassion as regards the plight of young LGBT people who are victims of anti-Gay bullying and other issues involving discrimination was something along the lines of 'they deserve what they get.' A typical response during the conversations was a flabbergasting, 'We are so far apart on this,' which was based solely on what I consider to be misguided religious beliefs.
What I learned from trying to reason with the opponents of our quest for equal rights is that it was destined from the start to be a fruitless endeavor, and that our only hope in attracting allies is to appeal to the compassion of open-minded individuals who believe in fairness.
Even if that wasn't Kloeffler's conscious objective in speaking out on the broadcast, I think his words probably reached a lot of people who are realizing our sheer numbers necessitate them giving more thought to our mission.
Maybe it's a good time for others to follow Kloeffler's lead and see what kind of difference they might be able to make in spreading tolerance and fairness in their communities.
David Webb is a veteran journalist who has covered LGBT issues for the mainstream and alternative media for three decades. E-mail him at davidwaynewebb@yahoo.com.
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Walking in their shoes. Women photojournalists break new ground.
What does visual storytelling through women’s eyes look like in these gender-focused times? Photojournalism is still a man’s world. But this is changing. Three award-winning women photojournalists share what it takes to shoot their complex and compelling subjects in the U.S. and around the world. Here’s my reporting on their remarkable imagery and perspectives gathered at Visa pour l’Image, France’s premier annual photojournalism festival.
Filed Under: blog Tagged With: Communication, global, photojournalism, women's rights
Ruth Landy December 15, 2017
The world is failing breastfeeding moms. We can change that.
“What if governments had a proven, cost-effective way to save babies’ lives, reduce rates of malnutrition,
support children’s health, increase educational attainment and grow productivity?
They do: It’s called breastfeeding.”
Anthony Lake, UNICEF Executive Director
How many countries are supporting women to breastfeed, and protecting and promoting breastfeeding to international standards?
Zero. None.
That’s the shocking conclusion of a new UNICEF/WHO report released in observance of World Breastfeeding Week 2017:
Only 40 per cent of children younger than six months are breastfed exclusively – given no other liquids or food – according to a UNICEF/WHO Global Breastfeeding Scorecard.
An investment of just $4.70 per newborn could generate $300 billion economic gains by 2025, and save the lives of 520,000 children.
“Breastfeeding gives babies the best possible start in life,” said the new head of the World Health Organization Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus. “Breastmilk works like a baby’s first vaccine… giving them all the nourishment they need to survive and thrive.”
Given these extraordinary benefits why have global breastfeeding rates stagnated at 40 per cent for several decades?
UNICEF probed the global and nutrition communities for answers to this vital questions in a study I was privileged to undertake, Breastfeeding on the Worldwide Agenda.
Breastfeeding champions admitted to major struggles they faced, both external and internal to the community:
A lack of high-level leadership, champions and a unified agenda.
A David and Goliath effort to counter the growing influence of the breastmilk substitute industry whose sales are projected to hit $70 billion by 2019. The industry spends more money marketing its products than governments do supporting women to breastfeed and protect them from aggressive marketing.
The community was unanimous in calling for a new advocacy drive for breastfeeding framed for a 21st century world.
Answering this call, the Global Breastfeeding Collective launched last week, a partnership of 20 international agencies focused on increasing political commitment and investment in breastfeeding worldwide.
To advance its ambitious agenda, the Collective must now answer these questions:
What decisions are we trying to influence and who has power over them?
What actors must we win over to advance our cause?
What leverage points will have most impact on these actors – evidence, communication channels, new alliances, high level events?
What can we learn from advocates who have shifted social attitudes on smoking in public places, for example, and those who have taken on formidable multinational industries?
How can we best place gender equality and women’s voices at the heart of our advocacy?
Savvy answers to these questions can have a transformative impact. It’s high time the flat line of 40% global breastfeeding coverage starts rising. If we can collectively bend it upward towards justice, we will have evidence the world is finally become a more breastfeeding-friendly place.
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Ruth Landy August 8, 2017
How women’s health advocates can win in 2017
In 2017, support for international development and global health is under serious threat following the election of Donald Trump as U.S. president. In Europe, the same forces that propelled Trump to the highest office also threaten to to bring populist, inward-looking governments to power.
Where does the maternal and child health community stand in this shifting global environment? How can advocates turn this crisis into opportunity? Check out my answer here on The Guardian website.
Ruth Landy March 13, 2017
2015 – in search of the killer app that will catalyze change
The year 2015 has had a mythic aura for me, for over a decade. That’s because it’s the target year for achieving the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) – the world’s first global blueprint for ending extreme hunger and poverty.
Both carrot and stick, the MDGs framed all our advocacy work.
In a world with no shortage of bad news, it’s been exhilarating to see the dramatic progress towards the MDG targets, notably the three health goals. Today, child mortality has been cut in half, compared with the 1990 baseline. Fewer women are dying in childbirth, or passing HIV on to their infants. Access to clean drinking water has increased, and more girls are in school.
Our collective action really did move the needle – from the corridors of the G8 to the planet’s remotest villages – though much remains to be done of course.
Now the global community is scrambling to agree on a new compact to guide the world – the Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs). The UN-led consultation process is unfolding in a networked world unimaginable to us in the year 2000. It’s a process that’s both more inclusive – and a lot messier.
Whatever final SDG agenda world leaders adopt at the General Assembly this September, we know we’ll have to raise our game to realize it by the target date of 2030.
But how to do so?
Some early answers to this vital question may be emerging from a pioneering research program now underway in 120 public health facilities across Uttar Pradesh – one of India’s most disadvantaged states. The BetterBirth trial is testing WHO’s Safe Childbirth Checklist, which aims to reduce high levels of maternal and newborn deaths by improving care at the times of greatest danger.
Birth attendants on the frontline of childbirth delivery in India’s public hospitals work under challenging circumstances. One on one coaching is the core of a childbirth safety improvement trial involving these health care workers in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh. Source: PSI/Ariadne Lab
How do you get underpaid and undervalued health workers working under conditions of chronic scarcity to change their behavior?
The checklist is the brainchild of Dr Atul Gawande, a leading physician and author who is overseeing the BetterBirth trial in collaboration with the Indian government, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and other partners.
It’s been a privilege to collaborate with the principals in describing this remarkable experiment in real time – and to discover the surprising killer app catalyzing change under daunting circumstances. As we search for a North Star that will guide our future action, it’s an insight we have much to learn from.
Here is their story.
radmin January 19, 2015
Why I do this work: the Linzer Torte connection
Communication is an alluring career choice when you grow up bridging differences from an early age. It’s about making sense, making connections, making a difference. It’s about empathy – shifting your perspective to that of the other person, and learning to communicate from that point of view.
I soon learned the importance of framing as a documentary filmmaker – whether it was images, stories or issues. As an advocate, I discovered that “reframing” a case could do wonders to advance a cause.
Communicating the change you want, then seeing it happen…that experience got into my blood early, and has stayed with me for the long term.
A ten-year-old girl in Nepal starts secondary school. A village gains its first health worker in Ethiopia. Laos’s government re-commits itself to immunization. Global leaders prioritize women and children.
I’m grateful to have contributed in my small way to something big: progress toward the UN Millennium Development Goals (MDGs), the world’s promise to end poverty and inequality.
It meant persuading decision makers, engaging media, telling stories, supporting communities, motivating teams – and building alliances. It also meant politics, of course – but that comes with the territory.
Today we have a stunning array of communication options at our disposal in a networked universe in constant evolution. It’s altering power relationships and enabling truly global consultation; but it’s also requiring an unprecedented degree of strategic clarity, focused execution and collective action.
RAMONA WEYDE-FERCH, JADEMOND.DE
“Work is love made visible”, my grandmother used to say. She was thinking of the time it took to make a Linzer Torte: fashioning the nutty, spicy dough; laying a delicate lattice pattern over raspberry jam; removing the cake from the oven at just the right moment. She had a recipe, but it was all in the execution: cooking as transformation, and food rapture.
I do this work because it’s the best way I know to give back, supporting change makers with knowledge, experience and creativity skills. The recipe changes with each project, but the commitment is constant.
This is a terrific time to learn from others so I’m devoting this blog to exploring how advocacy, media, data visualization and design are contributing to social impact, notably for health.
Look forward to dialoguing with on this new journey.
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Ruth Landy May 12, 2013
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Kyrie Irving insists he’ll be ready for Celtics camp
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Local golfing product headed to Florida for University
His former head, Gayton, knows he will excel in his upcoming challenges in the U.S.“Jake was a very dedicated golfer who spent all of his time at the course, working out and/or running,” Gayton said. “His diet and training regime was a testament to his dedication and his ultimate goal of receiving an NCAA Division I scholarship.” Jake has all the physical skills that you could ask for. No one puts in more time than Jake and no one has been more successful at the high school level than Jake. I think he has the opportunity to do something special.” FORT ST. JOHN, B.C. – Local golfing product Jake Lane is headed for Florida after being accepted to Bethune-Cookman University on a full D-1 scholarship.Lane who has been playing golf since he was seven-years-old decided to move to Qualicum Beach as a way to play the sport year-round in 2014.“Qualicum Beach is the closest place that doesn’t snow during the winter and that basically was the deciding factor,” said Lane. “I play in Pheasant Glen [Golf Resort] just about every day.”- Advertisement -During his time in Qualicum Beach at Kwalikum Secondary, the golf team head coach Butch Gayton offered Lane a place to stay with his family as Lane met Gayton after joining the Kwalikum Kondors. He helped the team capture their third provincial crown two years ago and also won an individual provincial AA championship.“Winning provincials was pretty special and I will be remembering that for a while,” said Lane, who graduated last June and since then has been mapping out the next chapter of his life.He now prepares to head to Daytona, Florida, for the next chapter in his golf career shortly after the new year.Advertisement read more
COURTS NOTICE: MOTIONS COURT POSTPONED UNTIL TUESDAY
CHANGE OF DATES: COURTS SERVICETHE Motions Court scheduled for tomorrow, Monday 9th March will be held on Tuesday 10th March instead in Letterkenny Courthouse. COURTS NOTICE: MOTIONS COURT POSTPONED UNTIL TUESDAY was last modified: March 8th, 2015 by John2Share this:Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window)Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window)Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window)Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window)Click to share on Pocket (Opens in new window)Click to share on Telegram (Opens in new window)Click to share on WhatsApp (Opens in new window)Click to share on Skype (Opens in new window)Click to print (Opens in new window) Tags:letterkennymotions court read more
Durham and Goughie select their Premier League teams of the season – agree?
The 2016/17 Premier League season is finally over, and what a season it was!Chelsea were crowned champions, Harry Kane won the Golden Boot – and Sunderland were finally relegated from the top flight.But, who were the best players across the entire campaign?Drivetime presenters Adrian Durham and Darren Gough revealed their Premier League teams of the season on Monday’s show – but do you agree?Goughie’s team is in a 3-4-3 formation, whilst Adrian uses a 3-1-4-2, and you can see all the players selected by clicking the right arrow above…Comment below and let us know if you prefer Durham’s or Goughie’s team, and who you would select in your Premier League team of the season 22 Right forward: Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal) 22 22 22 Centre back: Toby Alderweireld (Tottenham Hotspur) Centre midfield: Dele Alli (Tottenham Hotspur) Centre back: Gary Cahill (Chelsea) 22 Centre forward: Harry Kane (Tottenham Hotspur) Left forward: Eden Hazard (Chelsea) 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 Centre forward: Harry Kane (Tottenham Hotspur) Right midfield: Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal) Left midfield: Eden Hazard (Chelsea) 22 Goalkeeper: Jordan Pickford (Sunderland) – Adrian has selected his team using a 3-1-4-2 formation. Right wing back: Antonio Valencia (Manchester United) Goalkeeper: David De Gea (Manchester United) – Goughie’s team uses a 3-4-3 formation. You can see both Goughie’s and Durham’s teams by clicking the right arrow 22 Centre back: Cesar Azpilicueta (Chelsea) Centre back: Cesar Azpilicueta (Chelsea) Left wing back: Marcos Alonso (Chelsea) Centre midfield: David Silva (Manchester City) Centre back: Gary Cahill (Chelsea) 22 22 Centre back: Toby Alderweireld (Tottenham Hotspur) 22 Centre midfield: Dele Alli (Tottenham Hotspur) 22 Centre midfield: N’Golo Kante (Chelsea) Defensive midfield: N’Golo Kante (Chelsea) 22 Centre forward: Diego Costa (Chelsea) read more
JIMMY’S WINNING MATCHES AT CELTIC – MCGUINNESS PART OF MANAGEMENT STAFF FOR FIVE-STAR VICTORY
JIM MCGUINNESS will appear on The Saturday Night Show tonight.Jim McGuinness took his place on the bench alongside Celtic manager Ronnie Delia for Celtic’s 5-0 victory over Ross County earlier this afternoon.His presence on the bench signifies the central role he’s now having with the first-team at Celtic Park.One of Delia’s first moves as manager of Celtic was to promote McGuinness from working with the club’s youth set-up into the first-team. However, today was the first time McGuinness took his place on the bench alongside Delia.Celtic have been struggling of late, and lost 1-0 to Hamilton Academical last weekend.Manager Ronnie Delia has come under scrutiny from the Celtic faithful due to a succession of bad results.However, with Jimmy on board today, Celtic were back winning matches as they thrashed Ross County 5-0. McGuinness stepped down as Donegal manager a fortnight ago after four glorious years at the helm.He hasn’t given an interview since his departure, but it’s believed he stepped down because of his promotion with the first-team at Celtic Park.McGuinness will give his first interview tonight, when he appears on RTE’s The Saturday Night Show, and is expected to reveal why he walked away from the Donegal job.JIMMY’S WINNING MATCHES AT CELTIC – MCGUINNESS PART OF MANAGEMENT STAFF FOR FIVE-STAR VICTORY was last modified: October 18th, 2014 by Mark ForkerShare this:Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window)Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window)Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window)Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window)Click to share on Pocket (Opens in new window)Click to share on Telegram (Opens in new window)Click to share on WhatsApp (Opens in new window)Click to share on Skype (Opens in new window)Click to print (Opens in new window) Tags:celtic fcFeaturesJim McGuinnessnewsRTESport read more
A FESTIVAL OF COLOUR IS PROMISED FOR CARNDONAGH’S EASTER PARADE
Last year’s parade was a hugely-colourful experience in Carn.The Carndonagh Easter Parade will take place on Easter Monday next at 3pm. This fantastic event is back for its 4th year and is going from strength to strength attracting families from far and near to enjoy a free day out for all.Starting from Simpson’s Car Park at 3pm, the parade will proceed to the Diamond, down Bridge Street, onto Church Road and will then return to the Diamond via Station Road and Malin Street, before ending at Simpson’s. There will be a competition for the Best Easter Bonnet, the best entries and floats in terms of fancy dress and endeavour. So get the artistic side going and be creative.There will be live music and entertainment from the viewing platform in the Diamond from 2.30pm and an exhibition made up of the entries received from the ongoing photographic & children’s colouring competition. Entries can be received from local shops and returned to the Carn Post Office.It is hoped that the many clubs and organisations in the town will join the parade on the day and make it a celebration of the extent of community involvement in Carn. All businesses are asked to join in the spirit of the day, enter floats and promote the town. Entries however are not confined to the town so, if you fancy a good day’s fun, come along and enter.The organisers, Carndonagh Easter Monday Parade Committee, have been very much encouraged by the support, financial and otherwise, that they have received from the local business community. Joe Dohery Chairman said ‘ We would like to thank the local businesses and community for their support in helping to make this another successful event for the town. It is sure to be a great day for all and we encourage you to come out and enjoy this fantastic day’.Please note, traffic diversions will be in place on the day and due to this Mc Ginley’s Dublin bus will pick up at Supervalue & Donagh Cross.The organisers are asking for more volunteers to assist with stewarding and would ask anyone interested to please contact John Cunningham (087) 277 2954For further information or to register a float contact Jennifer O Donnell (086) 3796311 A FESTIVAL OF COLOUR IS PROMISED FOR CARNDONAGH’S EASTER PARADE was last modified: April 17th, 2014 by StephenShare this:Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window)Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window)Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window)Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window)Click to share on Pocket (Opens in new window)Click to share on Telegram (Opens in new window)Click to share on WhatsApp (Opens in new window)Click to share on Skype (Opens in new window)Click to print (Opens in new window) Tags:Carndonagh Easter Parade read more
Ray Ratto: Sharks rediscover themselves, but is it too late?
CLICK HERE if you are having a problem viewing the photos or video on a mobile deviceSAN JOSE — Well, that was easy, and predictable, and so very San Jose Sharks. They probably just waited one game too long to reprise their best selves.But they did, 5-2 winners over the Vegas Golden Knights in a game that was theirs in every way that Games 3 or 4 of this Western Conference first round series were not. They established control early, they maintained it through the few moments when the … read more
Research conference to find ways to drive the economy
With the theme “Driving South Africa’s Industrial Development Agenda”, South Africa is to host its first Economic Research Advisory Network (Eran) conference in East London later in March to find ways to boost the country’s economy.The event will be a platform for policy makers, academics, traditional leaders, NGOs, business, labour, students and members of the general public to discuss potential and real economic issues that hamper industrial development and economic growth.“Discussions at the conference will centre mainly on issues related to how to build a progressive developmental state that is capable of growing the country’s economy, thereby creating employment and eradicating poverty and inequality,” Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) Minister Rob Davies said in announcing the conference last week.The DTI helped set up Eran in 2015 as a national research network dedicated to promoting high-quality economic and development research. Its members come from national and provincial economic development departments, other government entities, universities and research institutions.Davies said research underpins South Africa’s economic policies, such as the Industrial Policy Action Plan.“We are on a mission to restructure our economy to set it on a more value-adding, labour-intensive and environmentally sustainable growth path,” he said. “Research plays a critical part in ensuring that our plans and objectives are built on well-research empirical evidence.“Research should contribute to sustainable development and the competitiveness of the South African economy.”The conference is a partnership between the DTI and the Eastern Cape Department of Economic Development, Environmental Affairs and Tourism. It will be held at the East London International Convention Centre from 10 to 11 March. read more
Probe ordered into Pune lathicharge
The government on Tuesday announced a probe into the alleged police excesses on specially-abled students in Pune on Monday. At least 35 students were injured when the police resorted to lathi-charge nearly 11,000 protesters gathered outside the Collector’s office. Announcing a probe in the Council, Minister for Revenue, PWD (Excluding Undertakings), Relief and Rehabilitation, Agriculture, Chandrakant Patil expressed “regret” over the police action on the students and promised to look into the alleged highhandedness of the cops, Earlier, proceedings in the Council were disrupted after sloganeering from Opposition, who demanded immediate suspension of police personnel involved in the incident. The Shiv Sena went a step further demanding a judicial probe from a retired justice to look into the police excesses. Raising the issue, Leader of the Opposition Dhananjay Munde said the students were demanding rights to quality education, and protesting against distribution of fraudulent certificates (disability) in the Government offices. “If their demands were met at the district level they would not have felt the need to stage a protest in the first place,” said Mr. Munde. Mr. Patil assured members of the House that Minister for Social Justice Dilip Kamble would be deputed by the government to negotiate demands presented by students. “The demands are being considered and we are hopeful of a resolution at the earliest. Meanwhile, we assure action against those who are responsible for the lattice charge,” Mr. Patil said. The Shiv Sena demanded the roll back of the transfer orders issued for the State Commissioner for Persons with Disabilities. Shiv Sena MLC Neelam Gorhe said the government will only suspend a few officers who will resume duty after challenging the order in an administrative tribunal. “The least State must do is to set up a judicial probe,” she said. Senior leaders of the Nationalist Congress Party (NCP) said Chief Minister must tender an unconditional apology to the students. “Why make police a scapegoat. It is the CM who must answer for this action since he is also the home minister,” said senior NCP legislator Vidya Chavan.In the Assembly, Parliamentary Affairs Minister and Pune guardian minister Girish Bapat assured members that the incident would be probed and action taken against the guilty.Mr. Bapat said that the state government has accepted the demands and the protesters will be given priority in jobs.Social Justice Minister Rajkumar Badole said demands of the students have been discussed at the government level and meetings held with Chief Minister. “Currently, there is one higher secondary school in each of five divisions in the state. Directives have been issued to start more schools in Nashik and Latur divisions. Representatives of the differently-abled sections would be taken into confidence while appointing a competent authority to manage such schools. Two representatives of the organisations of the differently-abled students will be inducted into the expert committee for creation of posts in schools,” said Mr. Badole. He also promised to appoint sign language experts in Industrial Training Institutes (ITI).“They would also be given driving license after being checked by competent medical officers. A meeting with their representatives and the Chief Minister would be organised before the end of current session,” said Mr. Badole.Leader of Opposition in the Assembly Radhakrishna Vikhe-Patil demanded strict action against police officials for ordering lathicharge. He demanded that officials concerned be suspended immediately. read more
New Zealander launches ‘India Survival Guide’ for expats, in shuddh Hindi
Karl Rock, an expat from New Zealand currently living in Delhi has won many Indian hearts with his fluent Hindi generally and with his video ‘Foreigner Surprising Indians with Hindi’ specifically.On his website ‘India Survival Guide’ Karl identifies as someone who is “…experienced and passionate about Indian life and culture and has travelled extensively throughout India and surrounding countries.”Read it at Asian Age Related Items
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Megan Chow ’23
If you’ve noticed a delicious scent coming from the direction of Revelle House this semester, it is most likely Amalia Barrett ’21 whipping up a new dessert from the comfort of her common room kitchen.
Barrett blames the Food Network for initiating her passion for baking.
“Coming home from elementary school or over the summers I would binge cooking shows for no apparent reason, internalizing general recipes for foods I don’t even like to eat out of pure boredom,” Barrett said. “I think I actually started baking the stuff I saw because of Buddy Valastro, the one and only Cake Boss. I watched it like it was a weekly sitcom.”
Barrett is all too familiar with the patience, dedication, and precision necessary when it comes to baking.
“[There are] those few times where something just isn’t working (it’s usually french macarons), where I’m following the recipe to a T but it refuses to work with me–they droop, or are too tall, or taste nothing like they’re supposed to–and then finally after the smallest tweaks it turns out perfect and pretends like nothing ever happened,” said Barrett. “I like thinking [that] the baking gods take pity on me and finally let me succeed.”
However, when reflecting on her favorite baking memories, she recalls her more distressed moments.
“I remember in 7th grade I wanted to bring this elaborate Frankenstien’s monster cake to school, no rhyme or reason I just wanted to make it, and I was up until at least 2 am, having burst out crying multiple times because the nose wasn’t right or the frosting was lopsided,” said Barrett. “Now, I think it’s one of the funniest things because I have no clue why I was invested in this stack of cake I was apparently making for fun.”
Despite her dedication to the process, Barrett finds that the impact her creations have on other people is the most rewarding part of baking.
“I love making food for other people… I find joy in making sweet little things for others that might have been craving a specific thing or having a not great day,” Barrett said.
Barrett also participated in the Motley Student Bake Off last year, where she made cake pops as well as three different types of mini macarons. At this 5C competition, students can showcase their baked goods for a chance to be voted by their peers as a winner and sell their baked goods at the Motley Coffeehouse one day of the following week.
“I found out about the Motley bake-off last year and it was the perfect excuse to carve out more time to bake in my schedule, plus everyone else could try the baked goods and not just my roommates and friends (who I think were getting kind of stuffed),” Barrett said. “I had sold the stuff I baked maybe once or twice in high school, but the Motley was such a great opportunity for me and other student bakers to share our food.”
Barrett continues to pursue her passion for baking and is currently selling her baked goods to 5C students on Facebook.
“After the [Thanksgiving] break, I hope to be making some Christmas-y things; maybe gingerbread cookies, holiday themed cake pops, and other wintertime favorites,” Barrett said.
Barrett also accepts custom-made baking requests, whether it be for special occasions or simply a sweet tooth craving.
“I’m very open to making people desserts for special occasions, friend’s birthday parties or other fun events, or if someone just wants a specific food for themselves, I’m pretty confident I can make it for them!” Barrett said. “I just want people to have access to their favorite desserts when they want them, just like I would want.”
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