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About Nuovo Pignone
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We would like to thank our team, clients, and loyal supporters. While at the BHGE Annual meeting in late January we were the proud recipients of a special award. Our relationship with BHGE started more than 20 years ago with the formation of Nuovo Parts Canada in 1996 and has evolved to what it is today. The transition and acquisition by Blackstone brings another strong GE lineage to the team, and we have been highly acknowledged for a great year. Combined we are viewed as a “Role Model” and “Blueprint” for all the channel partners in the world. The above award effectively sets us apart from 70+ other companies in the world working hard to work with the traditional Nuovo Pignone business within BHGE. TPS stands for Turbomachinery & Process Solutions, and we represent them in a unique and dynamic set of ways: Parts, Repairs, Field, Agency, Distributor and Service Provider, Canada & US.
The award is pictured with one of the two boots Allan had bronzed. These are Allan’s original Red Wing boots; one sits in Edmonton and the other in Calgary. They are reminders that all things in life take hard work and specifically in our companies—hard working people who adapt and build a great place to be. 2018 was a hard-transitional year with BHGE and taking on new relationships, and the shop in Sherwood Park are small examples of that.
I look forward to the new challenges that come with realigning ourselves and expanding our services to include other customers and other product lines. None of this is possible without all the daily efforts made by each of you. Thank you all for the opportunity to accept the award on your behalf and the continued execution that makes it very easy for me to say; We are simply the best. Allan and I are excited to take on 2019 with all of you!
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A Southland equity partnership has taken out the 2018 Dairy Business of the Year Award with a 7.9% return on capital, $3.25/kg milksolids cost of production and an operating profit margin of 46.3%. Kate Robinson reports.
Fourteen years ago, Tim Montgomerie and Kevin Hall invested in a dairy farm in Southland. Today, the farm business is a successful equity partnership of four and has won the 2018 Dairy Business of the Year (DBOY) title.
MOBH Farm is an equity partnership between founding partners Tim and Kevin, who met when Kevin was managing Tim’s farm in Cambridge before MOBH was established. They were later joined by Tim’s school mate Mark Turnwald, and equity manager, Jodie Heaps. The business milks 680 cows on 265 hectares just out of Gore.
MOBH Farm was the overall supreme winner at the DBOY awards evening in New Plymouth in June, as well as taking home two category awards – Best Southland Farm Performance Award and Medium Input Farm with Best Financial Performance.
‘An equity partnership structure is a way for younger dairy farmers to get some skin in the game as well as providing a succession plan option for farm owners looking to step back.’
Together, the four partners bring to the business a diverse range of expertise and breadth of skills, combined with the scale to run one of the most successful and profitable dairying operations in the country.
Mark is a former banker with great financial management skills and dairying experience. Kevin managed MOBH Farm for 10 years after owning a bread run in Auckland. He brings to the table hands-on farming experience, as well as sound business nous.
Ex-freezing worker Jodie is the farm’s manager on the ground in Southland. At 31, he is the youngest of the partners, but has great local knowledge and contacts, coupled with solid farming experience. Tim’s focus is more strategic and analytical, with a passion for turning grass into milk.
Tim has been dairy farming for 30 years and today is sharemilking two farms near Cambridge. He says the most satisfying thing about the business is that it has enabled two partners from non-farming backgrounds to realise their dream of farm ownership.
“Farm ownership is becoming increasingly difficult to attain,” he says. “An equity partnership structure is a way for younger dairy farmers to get some skin in the game as well as providing a succession plan option for farm owners looking to step back.”
MOBH Farm equity manager Jodie Heaps worked for three seasons on the farm for Tim and Kevin before they offered him the opportunity to buy into the business and manage the farm.
“At the time, it was an opportunity for me to grow my farming career and equity at the same time,” he says.
“Farm ownership is difficult to achieve these days. The equity partnership with MOBH Farm just happened to be the opportunity that came my way, as opposed to contract milking. I have learnt from all the partners in some way or other over the years.”
Mixing of skills and talents: Dairy farmer Tim Montgomerie and former banker Mark Turnwald are equity partners in the winning Dairy Business of the Year farm, along with bread-run owner turned dairy farmer Kevin Hall and ex-freezing-worker turned equity manager on the Gore farm, Jodie Heaps.
Importance of good governance
As the partnership has grown, Mark Turnwald says the need for governance has become even more important.
“Recording, monitoring and decision making needs to be robust and documented,” he says. “We have an annual shareholders’ meeting in March each year to review and update our policy documents.
“We look at the season ending and come up with a physical plan for the season ahead, which includes target production, staffing, breeding, fertiliser, cropping, and any capital spending required onfarm. Our financial budget then supports that plan.
“Even though Jodie runs the business day to day, we’ve got pretty tight guidelines around spending. It’s not about controlling Jodie, but rather ensuring we have the right processes in place for any decision making and ensuring it’s evidence based.”
MOBH Farm uses Figured and Xero software for budgeting, forecasting and tracking livestock, cropping and production. This enables Mark to keep all the equity partners up-to-date, including the farm’s bank manager and accountant in Hamilton.
The partnership also has a documented exit strategy to protect the business and its investors.
“The structure of our business enables us to change our shareholding at any stage,” Mark says. “If a partner wanted to sell his share in the business we have a 1, 2, 3 process set up with the shares first being offered to the other shareholders on a pro-rata basis.”
Learning from the competition
DBOY provides farmers the opportunity to undertake a high-level analysis of the KPIs within their business that drive profitability, resilience and sustainability, while benchmarking themselves against counterparts.
This year’s DBOY analysis was based on farm data from the 2016-17 season. MOBH Farm produced 1247kg milksolids (MS)/ha with cost of production at $3.25/kg MS. The payout for Fonterra suppliers at that time was $6.12/kg MS compared to $3.90/kg MS the previous season.
The judges said the farm’s focus on cost control was evident in its below-average core cost per cow of $746, with core pasture cost of $231/tonne of drymatter (DM) even better than the top 10% in Southland. They said this meant MOBH Farm was maintaining its cows and pasture without excessive expense, which was driving profitability.
They also said this low cost of production coupled with a high operating profit margin of 46.3% meant the farm business is low risk. The judges said this enables good profitability across a range of payouts and provides a buffer for unusual climatic conditions, enhancing resilience.
Kevin says that like most farming business, MOBH Farm was jolted by the payout slump and they had to be ruthless about cutting costs.
“We looked at the whole business to find areas where we could save money, such as fertiliser, where we did soil testing and more strategic placement. We did four weeks of AI instead of five and deferred $30K of race maintenance.
“We sacrificed expenses, but not at the cost of production. Everyone was on the same playing field, but our production was there.
“Through those tough times you have to have confidence in what you’re doing, focus on your costs and not let your farm working expenses get out of hand.
“Our focus on cost control has continued and we have been able to maintain that discipline through subsequent seasons, which is why our results have been so good.”
Highest ROC and biological efficiency
MOBH Farm’s return on capital (ROC) was 7.9% – the highest of the DBOY finalists by 1.4%.
ROC is the single biggest measure of business performance. DBOY judges said this result was excellent primarily as a result of tight cost control extracting maximum profit from a reasonable income per hectare.
Tim says when people talk about ROC in dairying they often don’t recognise the value of land.
“As land has become more expensive, it’s eroded that percentage return on capital,” he says. “ROC drives your inherent decision and desire to retain your investment, but for us it’s not just about the 7.9%. We’re happy with what we’re doing, we’re good at it and it’s yielding a return we’re comfortable with.”
Despite performing well in most areas, MOBH Farm’s equity position is comparatively low compared to the Southland average. The judges said this indicates a lack of solvency and vulnerability to fluctuations in land price, milk payout, interest rates and farm performance.
“We’ll definitely be looking at improving our equity position in the business and repaying as much debt as we can so we can make the most of any future opportunities that arise,” Tim says.
MOBH Farm’s milk production per cow was the highest of all the DBOY finalists at 486kg MS.
The judges said this figure is very high especially given there weren’t any concentrates used. They said this makes the biological efficiency of MOBH Farm high and helps mitigate its environmental impact.
“When we started in Southland, we learnt pretty quickly that per cow production was more important than in the Waikato because of wintering costs,” Tim says. “You’ve got that fixed cost of carrying your cows that you haven’t got in other dairying regions.
“Per cow production shouldn’t be underestimated given the system we operate. However, we don’t strive for it per se. We look at the total production we’re targeting and make sure we have enough cows to achieve that production. We’ve also made improvements in our breeding going from a Holstein herd to crossbred.”
Days-in-milk correlation
Tim says there is a strong correlation between days in milk and the bottom line.
“Our herd lactation is longer than the Southland average. We work hard to support the start and end of the season to get a few more days in milk and that’s where that extra production per cow comes from. She’s not making much money if she isn’t going through that shed.”
MOBH Farm has always been focused on growing and harvesting as much pasture as possible. In 2016/17, pasture made up almost 82% of total feed, with 12.3t DM/ha harvested.
“Growing pasture is all about getting your residuals and fertiliser right and we pride ourselves on attention to detail in this area,” Tim says. “Being flexible at management level day-to-day is crucial. Jodie is skilled at reading the situation and changing his paddock choice or break size depending on the weather.”
Jodie and his team use a C-Dax tow-behind to measure pasture growth and residuals each week. It takes about two hours to complete the whole farm, which is set up so that all the back gates have bungies they can drive straight under.
“Our pasture harvested is pretty respectable for Southland, but there is definitely scope to grow and harvest more,” Tim says. “Essentially it’s free as we own the land – it’s an overhead that is fixed. That’s why the correlation between pasture harvested and profitability is so close.”
MOBH Farm also grows fodder beet on the dairy farm to use as a transitional tool. Tim acknowledges it is a relatively risky crop for dairy cows in terms of toxicity.
“We reduce that risk by using it at the end of the season to transition our herd and retain a portion of it for our springer cows on their return.
“Our philosophy is to feed the most of your cheapest feed first, which is nitrogen-grown pasture. It’s important to know the unit cost of every feed type so you can make informed decisions.”
Jodie Heaps and the C-DAX tow-behind – measuring the grass each week helps in their aim to focus on growing and harvesting as much pasture as possible.
Mitigating M bovis
MOBH Farm bought its 134ha run-off block about four years ago and it is proving to be a valuable asset, especially when it comes to mitigating the threat of Mycoplasma bovis.
“With our run-off only 8km from the dairy farm, we are completely self-contained,” Tim says. “We grow winter crops like fodder beet, and cows are wintered there in mobs of 100. We also use it for rearing all our young stock.
“While with M bovis it’s turned out to be a huge biosecurity advantage, it has always enabled us to insulate ourselves from variances in feed costs, wintering costs, and grazing quality variability. We also have the option of bringing supplement back to the dairy platform.
“Having our own run-off gives us flexibility too, such as in 2016/17 when we decided to bring all our replacements back to the dairy farm to save topping and help with pasture control.”
MOBH Farm also leases an adjacent 80ha block of land, which accounts for 20% of its milking platform. Tim says the cost of leasing the land is less than the cost of land they own.
“The lease block certainly enhances our financial performance because we generate a stronger cashflow from it. Our unit cost of feed in cents per kilogram of drymatter is a lot less than our own farm.”
A team-led team
Jodie leads a team of three staff onfarm and says staff retention on MOBH Farm has always been good.
“We’re lucky because of our location on State Highway 1 about five minutes from Gore,” he says. “We were running a 12-2 roster, but feedback from our team saw us move to 7:1 and 4:2 roster. We also have to remember that we’re competing with other industries for staff, so we need to make it as attractive as possible for young people coming in to dairying.
“Our set-up enables us to offer our staff opportunities to progress and we encourage that as much as we can. We also don’t mind them leaving if they’re progressing. But if they’re leaving to go to the same role on another farm then we have to ask ourselves some tough questions.”
When it comes to the environment, MOBH Farm had all its waterways fenced by 2009. The partners were also proud to have the farm’s 10-year consent renewed by Environment Southland recently. The terms of the consent include increasing the farm’s effluent application area to target more appropriate soil types.
This was the third time MOBH Farm has entered the DBOY competition. Tim says the benchmarking has been invaluable and they now have a comprehensive set of data that can be analysed and modelled to make sure they are hitting the “sweet spot”.
“Retrospectively, having won this award, we can’t be too far from that sweet spot,” he says. “However, we will still be reviewing our system, looking at opportunities, and fine tuning and consolidating our operation.”
DBOY 2018 Key Performance Indicators – MOBH Farm
Milk production 486 kg MS/cow
KgMS per ha 1247MS/ha
Return on Capital 7.9%
Operating Profit Margin 46.3%
Operating Profit per ha $4,050
Cost of Production per kg MS $3.25
Operating Expenses per kgMS $3.77
Pasture Harvest ed 12.30t DM/ha
Pasture as % of feed 81.8%
Core per cow costs $746
Labour efficiency 175 cows/FTE
Environmental Score 10/15
HR score 7.6/15
Key farm facts 2016/17 season
Location: Gore, Southland
Equity Partners: Tim Montgomerie, Kevin Hall, Mark Turnwald and Jodie Heaps (manager)
Area 265.3ha effective
Staff 4 FTEs
Herd 680 crossbred
2016/17 330,480kg MS
2017/18 – 315,343 kg MS
2018/19 Target – 335,000kg MS
Average SCC 207,000
4 weeks AI. Bull duration
Empty rate 10%.
CIDRs
Animal health: Teat sealed heifers. Dry cow therapy.
Supplements/Crops
Palm kernel 30t, Fodder beet – dairy farm 5ha, run-off 20ha
Molasses 5T via in-shed feeders.
Feed pad.
Dairy: 50-bale rotary, ACRs, teat spray
Run-off: 134ha, 8km from dairy farm where herd is wintered and young stock reared
Lease land: 80ha, 20% of milking platform, adjacent to dairy farm
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Five Senior OAS Officers Appointed Registrar Of Odisha Varsities
Novel Idea To Curb Migration In Odisha’s Kalahandi
OdishaKalahandi
Bhawanipatna: The district administration has initiated a new idea to curb the migration issues of Kalahandi. It has started advertising on the walls of houses provided under Pradhan Mantri Awas Yojna (PMAY) 2019-20. The plight of the migrants has been highlighted in Odia language alongwith paintings of workers going outside in search of livelihood.
Around 50 houses out of 3000 have got the work order out of which three have been completed in Madanpur. Rampur block, about 65 km away from here has a population of 80,000 in the tribal dominated pockets of 19 gram panchayats. The literacy rate is 57 percent.
In the first phase, a house was provided to a beneficiary at a cost of Rs 1.30 lakh and a punch line was tagged on the wall, “Dadan khati gale re sab-Ame hairan hebar nahi. Jiba nahi au dadan khati-chhadi ame gaon bhita mati”. (Everybody went out as migrant workers, we don’t want to be harassed. We will not go outside in search of work anymore leaving our native place.)
The punch line has been tagged so that villagers can read and gossip among themselves that migration was not their ultimate choice. The idea was implemented by the joint efforts of block officials who hope that at least the locals will think twice before locking their doors.
The Block Development Officer of Madanpur Rampur, Rumana Jafri said five houses will be advertised in every panchayat. “The block comes under the “push factor” where workers are forced to leave the native place owing to basic amenities. There is a lack of communication among people who live on forested land,” she said.
Besides advertising on the walls the administration sensitises the people by holding gram sabhas in the region. With a poster of no migration and availability of jobs locally we spread awareness among the villagers not to move to other states for livelihood. We have also staged many plays on the issue of migration, the BDO added.
Hundreds of migrant workers go out without registering their names in the labour office. Some go through unregistered labour agents and some on their own. It is tough to stop migration because workers are lured by the agents and they ultimately come back after being tortured by the owners, said an official on the condition of anonymity.
The government implemented schemes like National Rural Employment Guarantee Act, which ensures 200 days of works in a year in the rural pockets but on ground zero, they don’t get any job. That is the basic reason people migrate, said Dilip Kumar Das, Director of the NGO Antodaya. Some die and some lose their limbs while working in the states like Tamil Nadu, Kerala, and Maharashtra, Das added.
He further said that there have been many incidents where migrants’ relatives have had to face problems in bringing back their dead body and have had to request the local district administration for help. Cases are filed with Human Rights Commission or in the local police stations, who in turn contact the other state’s police. The body is then handed over to the deceased family members after a lot of formalities. In some cases, poor workers are held captive by the “labour agents”, who ask the migrants to return the advance money taken from them. If migration has to check then the government needs to provide all the facilities to the poor people like ensuring employment, roads and communication, electricity, drinking water, health and education along with bridges over many rivers. There are hundreds of villages that are still cut off from the mainstream, Das added.
Jafri said this new initiative may not curb migration totally but it will at least help in taking care of the woes of the migrants.
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Ottawa's bad-luck fountain revived
Tom Spears, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: September 1, 2014
NCC handout pics of a historic fountain (from 1892) dug up during excavations at LeBreton Flats. It commemorates Lilias W. Fleck, donated to the city by her children but later thrown away. The NCC is considering bringing the fountain back in some form.
There’s a happy future for the little fountain that was pushed around and chased out of downtown a century ago.
The little fountain in honour of Lilias W. Fleck was ostracized and physically beaten up while bigger, stronger monuments took over Parliament Hill.
Queen Victoria, Sir. John A., and even Sir Galahad dominate Parliament Hill in stone and bronze.
The Fleck fountain was evicted from its first home, then vandalized, and finally buried in LeBreton Flats like last week’s trash.
But you can’t keep a good fountain down. The National Capital Commission hopes to fix it up and install it at the corner of Booth Street and the Sir John A. Macdonald Parkway.
After finding the remains of the stone fountain at LeBreton during soil cleanup last year, the National Capital Commission brought in a private firm, Past Recovery Archaeological Services, to study the fountain and its story.
It discovered that 88 per cent of the fountain is still there. There’s a bell-shaped pedestal, a wide stone bowl that sat on it, and a cylinder and cap stone above that. There are also remains of a low, U-shaped wall that used to go part of the way around the fountain.
All the pieces are red or grey granite. There are motifs of water plants: cattails carved all around the upper section, and water-lilies around the bowl — as well as a water lily in copper alloy that contained the fountain’s water spout. (The name Lilias is related to the Latin word for lily.)
The lettering shows remains of gold paint. It says: “IN LOVING MEMORY OF LILIAS W. FLECK + ERECTED BY HER CHILDREN.”
The existing pieces stand 1.57 metres high, but the original base is missing. The granite bowl is a little more than a metre wide.
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The fountain wraps up the story of one of Ottawa’s leading families of the late 1800s. It tells indirectly of troubles, and how families pull together to overcome them.
There were two Lilias Flecks, a mother (Lilias W. Fleck) and daughter (Lilias M.). Lilias W. married Alexander Fleck, a wealthy businessman and founder of the Vulcan Iron Works in Ottawa, in 1844.
They had six children, and one of them — Lilias Mackay Fleck — married Thomas Ahearn, the man who brought electricity to Ottawa.
Lilias M. died in childbirth four years later, in 1888. Ahearn and his two young children moved closer to the Fleck family, and his wife’s sister Margaret took care of the children. She married Ahearn a few years later.
Lillias W. Fleck NCC
In the meantime, Lilias W. Fleck also died (in 1890), and the executors of her estate decided to donate a fountain to the city in her memory. The NCC says documents show it was meant to give water to an eclectic, though possibly not sanitary, mix of “man, horse, (and) dog.”
It went badly.
They installed the fountain on the south side of Wellington Street at Bridge Street in 1892, but it blocked the sidewalk.
Residents immediately complained that “to pass it pedestrians have to go around the fountain and off the crossing into the mud.”
After two years the city moved it to a triangle of land bounded by Commissioner, Albert and Slater Streets.
It had a worse time there. The NCC found a letter to the Ottawa Journal in 1926 that complained about “ … a so called ‘park’ between Bronson avenue and Commissioner street, which had at one time a fountain with a base. The fountain was long ago broken down by vandal boys …”
The letter writer said mosquitoes bred in the rain water that collected in the bowl and wrote that the “unsightly basin might easily be turned into a flower garden.”
It wasn’t. Somehow — so far the records are silent, though NCC spokesman Mario Tremblay says research is continuing — it became simpler just to bury the damage.
Now, however, the future might be smiling on the fountain’s surviving pieces. The NCC has held open houses to display ideas to revitalize LeBreton Flats, and “according to the vast majority of those who attended, the late 19th century Lilias W. Fleck Fountain … should also find a significant place on the LeBreton Flats site,” likely near the corner of Booth and the parkway.
Tremblay notes that Thomas Ahearn, son-in-law of Lilias W., went on to become the first chairman of the Federal District Commission, the predecessor of the NCC. History is a thing of strange connections.
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CRIMINAL LIVES
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Criminals in the asylum – part 2
In the second part of our ‘Criminals in the asylum’ feature, we look at three more offenders who found themselves serving time in the West Riding Pauper Lunatic Asylum.
The asylum, which was built on open land to the north-east of Wakefield and later known as Stanley Royd hospital, was opened in 1818 and would eventually provide accommodation for up to 2,000 patients deemed to be mentally ill.
During the 19th century, some of the patients that had been admitted to the asylum had come via the criminal justice system.
Solomon Tankard
Thirty-six-year-old labourer Solomon Tankard arrived at Wakefield in 1868 after a brief spell at Broadmoor Criminal Lunatic Asylum. The warrant that precipitated his move was the result of a conviction for stealing £7 from co-lodger, Mrs Nancy Murgatroyd. Solomon was sentenced to six years’ penal servitude.
He had been sent to Dartmoor Prison to serve out his sentence, but part way through his time there he started to display paroxysm of melancholia and was eventually declared insane. He was transferred to Fisherton House Asylum in Salisbury on 21 September 1863.
So by the time he arrived at Wakefield, Solomon had been insane for many years. In fact, it was later discovered that he had spent time in Wakefield on a previous occasion. Solomon had been admitted there on 2 November 1857 at the age of 22, suffering from mania, which manifested in extreme bouts of violence and periods of obstinate silence.
He had originally been sentenced to spend time in Dartmoor after Solomon and his brother Richard had been convicted of being accessories to the rape and robbery of a 15-year-old girl in Oakenshaw, near Wakefield.
Newspaper reports at the time described how the brothers had looked on while a companion of theirs, an Isaac Marsden, had thrown the girl into a ditch and ‘succeeded in violating her person’ before robbing her and fleeing the scene.
The brothers were each sentenced to 12 years’ transportation for their part in the attack, while Marsden received 20 years. Solomon later spent time in the Wakefield House of Correction and aboard the prison hulk, HMS Stirling Castle, in Portsmouth, before being transferred to Dartmoor.
So how was it that Solomon Tankard was still in the country in 1857 to be eventually admitted to the Wakefield asylum? Well, he had actually been released on licence from Dartmoor and had returned home to East Brierley near Bradford. But within a month of release, he had been admitted to the asylum.
Tankard made several attempts to escape during his second spell at Wakefield and had become increasingly violent. However, a period of employment on the asylum farm had changed his mental condition for the better. So much so that he was added to the ‘Convalescent List’, which was for patients that were considered to be likely candidates for release in the near future.
Solomon Tankard was released on 15 November 1877, just a few months after being added to the list. He was still only 42 years old when he was discharged but had already spent half his life locked up in prisons and asylums.
Joseph Street
A 23-year-old weaver from Dewsbury Moor, Joseph Street, was removed to the Wakefield asylum in 1856. Joseph had been convicted of larceny at the quarter sessions in Bradford a year earlier after stealing a hen from a Mr Henry Wharton in Birstal.
It appears that Joseph had become maniacal while serving the 12-month sentence he had been given for the offence.
During the first few years at Wakefield he worked in various outdoor jobs without success, but had finally found an occupation, patch-work, in which he seemed to take some interest.
Although he appeared physically fit, he would often feign illness to avoid work and would not associate with other patients. In fact, he was described as ‘very odd’ and ‘eccentric’ with an irritable temper. There had been little change in his mental condition since his arrival.
His behaviour continued to cause concern. In November 1867, Joseph disappeared during a drama performance in the dining hall only to be discovered drunk in the store room. A year later he escaped from his bedroom by picking the lock and made his way into the main building of the asylum. The following morning, it was discovered that a jacket and hat belonging to a workman had been stolen from the joiner’s shop.
A couple of nights later, Joseph broke into the boiler house and devoured bread and cheese and drank some ale. He was discovered hiding in the hen coop in the poultry yard.
The next few years saw little change in Joseph’s condition. But by 1874 his case notes claim that there was now nothing wrong with him mentally, even though he was employing his time catching moles and rats on the estate. But this behaviour was now just seen to be part of his natural eccentricity.
So Joseph was finally discharged on 5 May 1874. He had received a 12-month sentence for his original offence but ended up spending 19 years in the lunatic asylum.
John Walker arrived at West Riding Pauper Lunatic Asylum on 14 April 1851. By the time he was admitted he had already previously suffered several attacks of insanity and had spent time in Bethlem and Woolwich asylums.
John was a shoemaker by trade and had joined the army, only to be dismissed on account of his insanity in 1849. A year later, he appeared at the Sheffield Intermediate Sessions and was convicted of stealing a pair of boots. He was sentenced to ten years’ transportation.
After sentencing, he was held in York Castle and it was during this time that he was once again deemed to have become insane and sent to the Wakefield asylum.
Soon after John had arrived at the asylum he found himself in trouble, fighting with a man called Schofield. This kind of behaviour was often dealt with in the same manner as for a naughty child. He was ‘put to bed’ and asked to promise that he would conduct himself in a more satisfactory manner in the future.
It appears that John did just that, as the next few months were pretty uneventful for him. Instead of causing trouble, he had actually been employed as an assistant to the ward attendant. So by February 1852 he was considered to be ready to leave the institution. He was discharged on 23 March 1852.
Unfortunately for John Walker, he was returned to prison so that his original sentence could be carried out. However, it would be five years before he was transported to Western Australia aboard the Clara, in the company of 261 other felons.
Taken from Proper People: Early Asylum Life in the Words of Those Who Were There by David Scrimgeour. (Reproduced by kind permission of the author).
Case notes of Solomon Tankard (C85/3/6//115. M21.439), Joseph Street (C85/3/6/107. M13.407), and John Walker (C85/3/6/105. M11.78), West Yorkshire Archive Service, Wakefield Office.
The newspapers consulted for the research – Leeds Intelligencer, Leeds Times, York Herald – are available online at the British Library Newspaper Archive.
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RECOMMENDATIONS FOR INCREASING OPPORTUNITY AND DECREASING POVERTY IN AMERICA
By National Council of Young Leaders, Opportunity Youth United (updated 2020)
These Recommendations cover expansion of pathways out of poverty for Opportunity Youth plus detailed system changes for education, upward mobility, criminal justice, community development, and family supports to diminish poverty and improve living conditions through building supportive communities for all Americans. We believe these should guide all political candidates interested in addressing poverty and injustice.
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YOUTH VOICE SURVEY: CHALLENGES & SOLUTIONS TO ENGAGING YOUNG VOTERS
By CIRCLE and OYU
CIRCLE and OYU staff worked with young leaders in six states—Arizona, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Mississippi, and Washington— to understand youth voices through a survey about their experiences with, knowledge of, and perceptions of election and voting. Our initial findings, summarized in the PDF, identify barriers that young people face in casting a ballot, and specific action steps to remedy them.
Recommendations From Opportunity Youth United to the National Commission on Military, National, and Public Service
By OYUnited
In April 2019, Opportunity Youth United was invited to share recommendations with the National Commission on Military, National, and Public Service to improve and expand the national service system. This memo outlines our various priorities and suggestions for policies that will improve and expand the national service system to engage Opportunity Youth and other low-income people as service-givers in our own communities.
The other 2018 midterm wave: A historic 10-point jump in turnout among young people
By CIRCLE
The Center for Information and Research on Civic Learning and Engagement (CIRCLE) at Tufts University conducted two large-scale national surveys of 2,087 Americans ages 18 to 24 in the fall of 2018. Among other findings, the 2018 US midterm elections saw the highest youth turnout since researchers at CIRCLE started collecting data in 1994. Their additional findings are summarized in this article.
BRIDGE TO RECONNECTION
By Civic Enterprises
YouthBuild USA, Jobs for the Future, and Forum for Youth Investment contracted with Civic Enterprises in 2012 to develop this roadmap to federal funding for one million “slots” in proven existing federally authorized programs for Opportunity Youth. We had it updated in 2016. It provides the basis for the Reconnecting Youth Campaign’s call for an additional federal investment of $4.1B/year.
CIVIC ENGAGEMENT FOR LOW-INCOME YOUTH
By National Council of Young Leaders, Opportunity Youth United
In 2015, funded by the Youth Engagement Funders, the NCYL held numerous focus groups with former opportunity youth from over 20 states and developed this analysis of why young people don’t vote, and what steps would be effective in inspiring them to get involved. This paper is a guide for the Community Action Teams and for CIRCLE’s additional research on civic engagement for low-income youth.
OYU VOTER REGISTRATION TRAINING HANDBOOK
By Opportunity Youth United central staff
This handbook includes detailed and easy-to-follow instructions to guide voter registration trainings and campaigns. It was first developed by Indivisible, but modified by OYUnited to be nonpartisan.
Healing Our Divided Society: Investing in America Fifty Years after the Kerner Report
Chapter by Dorothy Stoneman
In 1968, the Kerner Commission concluded that America was heading toward “two societies, one black, one white-separate and unequal.” Fifty years later, in 2018, the Eisenhower Foundation released this book to report on the progress, and lack thereof, since the Kerner Commission Report offered a comprehensive set of solutions to prevent violence in America.
Dorothy’s chapter describes what can and should be done now to provide opportunity to young people in America. (The book can be found at local libraries and bookstores or purchased via Amazon.)
Read Dorothy Stoneman’s Chapter | Read the Summary
A Quick Guide to the Federal Budget
Decisions are made every year by elected senators and representatives about how much of the federal budget to spend on what activities, and they profoundly affect all of our communities. Schools, Head Start programs, health care, national service, national defense, job training, public and subsidized housing, food stamps – it’s all affected by the federal budget.
In our Quick Guide to Understanding the Federal Budget, you can learn more about where the money comes from, the process of budget approval, how the budget is spent, and become a part of this very important process!
More than a Million Reasons for Hope Report
More than a Million Reasons for Hope: Youth Disconnection in America Today analyzes youth disconnection in the United States by state, metro area, county, and community type, and by gender, race, and ethnicity. Disconnected youth, also known as opportunity youth, are teenagers and young adults between the ages of 16 and 24 who are neither in school nor working.
#OwnthePower Video
As part of the May 2018 Our Power, Our Community, Our Change. Summit held in Washington, DC, by the Marguerite Casey Foundation, members of OYUnited created a short social media video, #OwnThePower.
The Reconnecting Youth Campaign Year One Summary
By Thaddeus Ferber and colleagues at the Forum for Youth Investment
In January 2017, the Reconnecting Youth Campaign launched, calling on Congress to invest in America’s future by funding education, employment, training and national service opportunities for one million Opportunity Youth: young people ages 16- to 24 who are not in school and not working.
In FY19 they invested $3.338B ($122M more than FY17 levels). Total investments across the two years add up to $195M more funding than if investments stayed at the FY17 levels. This brief lays out the keys to our legislative success and offers an analysis of which programs received the funding increases, as well as information on who can receive these funds and how to apply for them.
Opportunity Youth United is a national movement of young people and allies working to increase opportunity and decrease poverty in America. It is supported by many sponsors, partners, and funders.
Elvera Perry
Administrative Manager
Email: elvera@oyunited.org
Opportunity Youth United
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© 2018 Opportunity Youth United
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Most-read coverage in 2018: Legal issues and the open source community
Get up to date with these 5 articles, from GDPR to licensing.
28 Dec 2018 David Perry (Red Hat) Feed
Beth Cortez-Neavel on Flickr. Public Domain. Modified by Opensource.com
In 2018, Opensource.com again tackled the intersection of open source and the law, with the most-read articles addressing topics from privacy to patents.
One of the most impactful legal changes in 2018 was the implementation of the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), so it's not surprising that many readers were interested in how the new law will affect open source communities.
As in previous years, open source licensing was a popular topic. One well-read article focused on recent court cases that helped shed light on what remedies exist for breaches of the General Public License (GPL). Another article explored whether the MIT License has a "real" patent license.
Since not all of our readers are lawyers, several articles aim to help open source contributors address legal concerns. For example, one article educates readers on meeting the legal challenges that may arise from distributing software through container images. Another helps open source contributors choose between a Contributor License Agreement and a Developer Certificate of Origin by explaining the difference between the two.
Top open source legal articles in 2018
How will the GDPR impact open source communities?
Many organizations are scrambling to understand how changes in privacy laws will impact their work.
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Why so little love for the patent grant in the MIT License?
Conventional wisdom says the Apache License has a "real" patent license. But what about the MIT License?
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What's in a container image: Meeting the legal challenges
The implications of distributing software through container images are quite different from those of the package managers many people are familiar with.
What legal remedies exist for breach of GPL software?
These recent court cases shed some light on the matter.
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CLA vs. DCO: What's the difference?
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Ralph Breaks the Internet | Official Trailer
Daniel Ortiz Rants on: The Nun
Eric Curran
Star Wars is pretty silly, and that’s okay. If we want Shakespeare, we already have it. I don’t expect some fantasy silliness to ever take the place of nutritious art. Still, I like candy, too, and that’s what we get from those films whittled from the paper-thin mythologies of the original.
Enter The Mandalorian, like some nameless Sergio Leone anti-hero through a planked saloon door, stopping the piano player and all conversation in its tracks. There’s a stranger in town. Could be Clint Eastwood, could be Charles Bronson. In this case, it’s Pedro Pascal, a Chilean actor best known for Game of Thrones and Narcos. You’d never know it, though, since as of episode 7 we’ve yet to see “Mando” sans helmet. This only adds to a coolness originally displayed by another famous Mandalorian, Boba Fett. Boba actually debuted between Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back in a hastily produced Christmas cartoon.
Not everyone likes it when silly wants to be taken seriously. Still, there’s a way to do it that’s not as jarring as Adam West v. Christian Bale.
Jon Favreau, whose Iron Man truly kicked off the Marvel Cinematic Universe, acts as executive producer and showrunner of The Mandalorian, and he knows just how to balance the whole thing with an aesthetic more Alex Ross than Jack Kirby. As head writer, Favreau successfully walks that tightrope between nostalgia and the now. He tempers seriousness with one of the most adorable little puppets you ever did see. I’m talking about “The Child,” better known via recent memes as “Baby Yoda.” In the same way that the Mandalorian isn’t Boba Fett, the Child isn’t Yoda – yet both have those original characters baked into their DNA.
At 15 million clams an episode, you get some excellent production value. Cinematography, music, and special effects are all on point, as are cameos from the likes of Amy Sedaris, Bill Burr, Werner Herzog, Nick Nolte, Carl Weathers, Giancarlo Esposito, and Taika Waititi. Waititi also directed the final episode of Season 1, to be released December 27th.
The Mandalorian may be the best byproduct of the original series. Check it out on Disney+.
Using a host of pen names, Eric Curran has been blogging in one form or another for well over 10 years. He's a partner at One Track Mine, and also runs the blog Jealous Foodies.
Aaron Paul Breaks Bad Once Again
Vince Gilligan brings us the further adventures of Jesse Pinkman as only he can, and the results are pretty entertaining.
Released on Netflix and in theaters on Friday, El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie steps back and forward in time to resolve Pinkman’s story in two tension packed hours. Thankfully, Gilligan doesn’t bite off more than he can chew, and manages to pack more action into this story than in four frickin’ seasons of Better Call Saul.
You know that feeling you get when an episode of Saul ends and you feel like you’ve just been tricked into watching lawyers talking for an hour? You won’t have that with El Camino.
Now, if they could just spin off Jonathan Banks the same way.
Some familiar faces show up here and there, and they thankfully don’t chew up too much of the scenery. Worth noting that Robert Forster does a fine job in El Camino, and he unfortunately passed away the day the film was released. Peace out, Mr. Forster.
No villain in comic book history has been more praised, dissected, and interpreted than the Joker. His enigmatic past has given several authors opportunity to give their take on his origins, yet never stapling him down to any legitimate background. This film is another folklore to add to the potential rise of a mad man.
If you’re expecting a superhero movie, you have definitely come to the wrong place. This film is a character study of a man suffering from trauma, abuse, and mental illness. It relates less to the Batman comics and more to a blend of Martin Scorsese‘s Taxi Driver & King of Comedy which ironically both star Robert De Niro. It dives deep into the descent of a delusional man pushed to his absolute limits as he begins to find his ultimate self in the bowels of a maddening society.
Joaquin Phoenix was spectacular in the role, embodying the look and characteristics of the villain we are all familiar with, yet adding a twisted perspective that humanizes his actions and roots it in many forms of anguish. His body twisting in macabre movements added to a tone which conflicted its viewer between rooting for him or slowly separating ourselves from his bizarre antics.
The environment of the movie is perfect for this character: New York City in the early 80’s, which is how we’ve been conditioned to stereotype Gotham. It’s dirty, dreadful, ugly, and cultivated all the elements needed to allow sickness to thrive.
The supporting cast added value to the movie without standing out more than Joaquin, who is impossible to outshine.
Only two big flaws I found with the movie:
1. It was very slow-paced. Just surpassing two hours it felt like it dragged during certain scenes and some tighter editing could’ve cured some of that.
2. I would’ve love to have seen more of the clown make-up. Even though Arthur Fleck was interesting on his own, there was a certain level of superhuman strength he dawned with the clown paint. He was evil, he was scary, and inhuman, and that would’ve been just as intriguing to observe.
Other than that. It was a pretty solid movie.
Overall Grade: B+
Joker was more fascinating than I anticipated, and strikes a good balance between comedy and tragedy. I recommend it to anyone that is happy cringing through some really foul human behavior.
Joker (2019) 2h 2min | Crime, Drama, Thriller | 4 October 2019 (USA)
Director: Todd PhillipsWriters: Todd Phillips, Scott SilverStars: Joaquin Phoenix, Robert De Niro, Zazie Beetz
Summary: In Gotham City, mentally-troubled comedian Arthur Fleck embarks on a downward-spiral of social revolution and bloody crime. This path brings him face-to-face with his infamous alter-ego: "The Joker".
Countries: USA, CanadaLanguages: English
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State lawmakers consider tougher financial oversight on hard-rock mining
Bill would end self-bonding and require companies to demonstrate financial fortitude
By Ryan Maye Handy Herald Staff Writer
Saturday, March 9, 2019 5:03 AM
Wastewater pours out of the Gold King Mine above Silverton. Colorado lawmakers are considering a bill that would ban the practice of self-bonding and require hard rock mining companies demonstrate they can pay to treat polluted water should a mishap occur.
Associated Press file
Colorado senators gave initial approval to a bill this week that would make Colorado the first western hard-rock mining state to ban the practice of self-bonding, a controversial financial surety that has often left taxpayers footing the bill for mine clean up around the country.
The bill, which has already been approved by the House, would also require hard-rock mining companies to demonstrate they can pay to treat polluted water and give a timeline for that treatment before receiving permits. The bill is backed by the state’s Department of Natural Resources, which issues mining permits, said Ginny Brannon, director of the Division of Mining, Reclamation and Safety. She added the bill codifies into law long-standing practices of the division.
“We don’t permit applications that have water treatment that goes on forever,” Brannon told the Senate Agriculture and Natural Resources committee. “As for self-bonds, we don’t like them. We look for other forms of financial assurance.”
The bill passed on a vote of 4-1, and now heads to the Senate floor. The House passed it in February.
La Plata County commissioners, public health officials, anglers and farmers have all cheered House Bill 1113 as a necessary step to prevent disasters like the Gold King Mine spill, which dumped 3 million gallons of mining sludge into the Animas River in 2015. If passed into law, the bill will not affect abandoned mines like the Gold King, a long-shuttered 19th century mine whose cleanup was being overseen by the Environmental Protection Agency. But it would require operators of new mines to prove they can pay for water treatment in the event of a spill.
“No one is under the illusion that this legislation would fix a legacy mine,” said La Plata County Commissioner Julie Westendorff, who traveled to Denver to testify in support of the bill. “Our goal is, let’s not have future legacy mines.”
By eliminating self-bonding, HB 1113 would end a practice that allows a mine to submit financial statements proving it can pay for any mishaps, such as spills, that occur during reclamation. Self-bonding is risky; if a company goes out of business or files for bankruptcy, the cost of cleanup passes to taxpayers. There is currently one Colorado mining operation using self-bonding, but its operation does not require water treatment.
While Coloradans will never have to pay for water treatment from the Gold King mine, in 2023, the ongoing treatment from another Superfund site, the Summitville mine south of Del Norte, will fall to the state. The Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment will pay $2.2 million a year for water treatment from Summitville.
Colorado has six hard-rock mines that require water treatment – three will have indefinite water treatment, and three have water treatment end dates that are unknown but could change, according to the Division of Mining, Reclamation and Safety. All were permitted more than three decades ago, when reclamation laws were new in Colorado.
While HB 1113 is not retroactive, one provision might mean its new standards for water treatment and self-bonding would apply to existing mines, said Scott Hardt, a lawyer with the Denver firm Davis Graham & Stubbs and which represents Newmont Mining Corp., one of the world’s largest gold mine companies with a flagship mine in Teller County. Mines frequently adjust their plans and amend their permits, he said, which would could make the mining operation subject to new requirements for water treatment.
“There’s a real risk that as an unintended consequence that it would apply to all existing mines,” Hardt said.
The bill’s sponsor, Sen. Kerry Donovan, D-Vail, disagreed. But Sen. Don Coram, R-Montrose, who owns and is reclaiming uranium mines in western Colorado, thinks the bill could trap mining companies into meeting the new requirements; his amendment to fix the bill was shot down in committee.
Coram voted for the bill, adding: “We will continue conversations.”
rhandy@durangoherald.com
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Interlude 26a
Posted on August 6, 2013 by wildbow
Theo exhaled slowly. He hadn’t realized he’d been holding his breath. Inhaling again, the smell of shit and blood was so heavy on the air it choked him. His suppressed cough was almost a grunt, almost a gag.
His eyes returned to the two bloodstained spikes that had been stabbed into the wall. It was the space where Nilbog had been crucified, apparently. Something dangled from one of them. A tendon, maybe, a vein, or a strip of meat. The goblin king had been torn down with enough haste and enough force that some part of him had been left behind.
He’d spent some time staring at the metal spike with flesh dangling from it. The others were busy. It made sense to take the time to strategize, to get equipment and gear in order, familiarize himself with every tool and technique this squad of capes had on hand.
Thing was, Theo didn’t want to, even as he knew it was the smart thing. The others seemed to recognize that and weren’t pushing him, weren’t approaching. Maybe they’d brush it off as a kind of meditative thinking, a mental preparation for the fight that was to come. Maybe they’d see it for what it really was. Avoidance.
Staring at the wall and trying not to think about anything was easier than looking down, seeing the dead members of the Slaughterhouse Nine, and maybe seeing Aster in the mess of bodies.
Being silent was easier than having to look the others in the eyes and pretend he was alright, risking that they’d offer some gentle, kind condolences, and he’d have to be stoic in the face of it.
Men weren’t supposed to cry. It would be disastrous, shattering their image of him, creating too much doubt at such a crucial juncture. He could imagine how they’d react. Some of them would be awkward. Defiant, maybe, would avert his eyes. Bitch might say something harsh.
Revel, probably, would be nice about it. Offer a pep talk, a hug, heartfelt words. Tecton would be much the same. Parian and Foil, even, might be kind, if he went by descriptions Weaver and others had offered of them and the little clues he’d seen in interacting with them.
The moment he pulled himself together, if he could pull himself together, Chevalier would be at his side, all business, outlining the situation in clear, defined ways. Framing it all into plans and setups that would put less stress on Theo, no doubt, but not in such a way that anyone could say anything about it.
Hoyden? Hard to say. She lived with this wall that she’d erected around herself. Layers of defenses, in bravado or being snarky or being sarcastic or aggressive or avoiding the situation. In combat situations or real life, Theo suspected there were very few things that really got to the heart of Hoyden. When they did, they hurt. How would she react to someone being vulnerable?
And then there was Weaver.
She was in the periphery of his vision, sitting on a computer case, staring down at the floor. As ever, her mannerisms were peculiar. She was so still. If it weren’t for the bugs, or the fact that her head would periodically move, as if she were looking over the dead, he might have thought she’d stopped, like a machine with the battery removed.
She would be assessing who was dead, who wasn’t, planning and adjusting her expectations for the coming fight, quite possibly. Probably.
In the midst of that, was Weaver thinking about Aster? The fact that she, either by aiming a gun and pulling the trigger or by giving the order to Revel and Foil, had killed a toddler?
Weaver was a hard person to deal with.
Taylor, not so much.
If that was all it was, he wouldn’t have worried so much.
There were other possibilities, ones that troubled him. What if he approached them, and nobody offered condolences at all? What if they accepted it as a cost of doing business, a necessity in dire circumstances?
What if he did show emotion, and none of his allies offered any emotional support at all?
Kayden had been the closest thing he had to a mother. If it hadn’t been for Jack’s game, then Theo suspected he might never have rated. He wasn’t her first priority. That would be Aster. Not her second. That was her mission, nebulous as it had been in recent years. He hesitated to believe that he’d even rated third place.
He struggled to convince himself he placed fourth or fifth, even.
But she’d been there. She’d shown kindness, had stepped between him and Father when the situation demanded it. There had been gentle moments, like the time they’d been watching television one morning and a cape had talked about how tinkers were their least favorite type of opponent to fight, and he and Kayden had laughed, because Kayden and her group had run into Leet just a week before.
Stupid things, in the end. Nonsensical. But stupid, nonsensical things were sometimes the most important.
He’d never had friends, before he got his powers. Even now, he wondered if he’d have really formed the friendships he had if they’d chanced to meet in some universe where powers didn’t exist.
Being alone as often as he had, Theo valued the connections he had made. Even connections with Justin, Dorothy and Geoff. Crusader, Night and Fog.
On the flip side of that same coin, he felt the betrayal of Justin leaving him behind.
Above all, he felt the quiet, perpetual horror of knowing that Crusader was still screaming, his throat never going raw, as Gray Boy’s loop continued without cease.
Kayden would be standing a short distance away, stoic, trying to keep from slowly going insane as Justin’s screams continued without end.
He’d lost people who were important to him, in maybe the most horrible way possible. He’d lost his father, and Kayden, Justin, Geoff and Dorothy, and now Aster. He’d lost them to violence and stupidity and madness, and he could see the allure in how the others seemed to be functioning, bottling it all inside.
He could see the twisted logic of it, even. As if there was a binary to everything, every enemy was somehow a twisted mess of emotion, layered by a seeming calmness, while every ally seemed to be cold inside, with only an act on the surface.
He looked down at his mask. A metal face with lenses over the eyes. Stoic, expression neutral, or a little stern. He’d chosen it at first because his real face was a little too round for a mask, but the PR teams had wanted to get more faces on the team. He’d compromised, and hadn’t given his mask much thought beyond that.
Except time had passed, and he’d found himself wondering if he liked the message it conveyed. By necessity, capes went down a road where they had to become cold and unflinching. They had to become numb, had to inure themselves to hard decisions. It jarred, to wear a mask that seemed to symbolize that transition, that while wanting nothing less than to walk down that road.
Back in Brockton Bay, New Wave had tried to start something, capes without masks. It had been disastrous. The message had been lost in the ensuing celebrity, and that had only intensified after one of the core members of the group was found and killed in her civilian identity.
He wondered if they’d been right to try. If capes really needed to just… drop the mask. To cry and let the feelings out. So many got their powers through trauma, but they bottled themselves up, erected defenses, developed coping mechanisms. If New Wave’s idea had taken off, would things be better?
Didn’t matter. Here they stood.
He could make it through this, save the world. They could find the source of the Endbringers and defeat them, could clean things up, get things in order and stop all of the real monsters… he could go to college, get a career and find a girl and marry her, and at the end of the day, Justin would still be screaming.
Aster would still be dead.
The ugly decisions would have been made.
He stared up at the bloody spikes in the wall, an image that would be burned into his mind’s eye, remembered as the point he stood at the threshold. A mirror to where he’d been in the beginning, when he’d met Jack.
Bitch paced around the edges of the room, impatient. She’d had to shrink her dogs to get them to an appropriate size, and was keeping them small in case the portal wasn’t accommodating enough. Here and there, she barked out orders to get the animals away from the bodies.
It grated.
“None of those invisible fucks,” she said.
“Okay,” Weaver answered. Her voice was quiet.
Theo almost took her voice as a cue to reevaluate how she was reacting to what had just happened, then stopped himself. Losing battle. No point.
Then, for some bizarre reason, Bitch approached him.
A sleek Doberman nudged at his gauntlet with its nose. He looked down and then scratched it behind the ear. It didn’t matter if the dog bit him – he was wearing a gauntlet.
When he looked up, he could see Bitch staring at him. Her face was barely visible behind her hair.
“Can I help you?” he asked. His voice came out harder than he intended.
She didn’t seem to notice or care. “You’re her friend, aren’t you?”
I don’t want to talk about Weaver.
He didn’t venture an answer. He couldn’t say yes, not honestly, but he suspected Weaver had a different answer to the question.
“You’re both acting different. I can see it.”
“Kind of warranted, in this situation,” he said. “In case you didn’t notice, the last few members of my family just got killed. I just need a bit of time alone to think.”
His voice had almost broken. Couldn’t break down. Not like this, here, with her.
She hadn’t taken his hint.
“They were buttholes, weren’t they? Purity and her gang. The nazis.”
The dog nudged his hand again. He gave it a more intense scratch before answering, “White supremacists. They… weren’t the best people ever. But they were still my family.”
She kept looking at him, almost glaring. She didn’t answer or elaborate, leaving the conversation to die.
Go away. I don’t want to hit you.
He kept silent, hoping she would just leave. Willing her to leave.
“Stay, Huntress,” she ordered.
Then she walked away, leaving the dog at his side.
Theo scratched the animal under the collar, and watched it crane its head to one side, enjoying the contact.
It helped, oddly enough. Having contact with another living creature without all of the issues and hassles of dealing with people. No judgement, no worries, just… this. Being alone without being alone.
His father had always preferred cats, and the creatures had never been easy to bond with. This was nice.
Theo sighed. He glanced at Weaver in his peripheral vision, and saw that there was a dog sitting next to her. A mutt, at a glance. The animal was resting its chin on her shoulder.
She saw him looking, glanced at Bitch, who was walking with her husky puppy following behind her, then shrugged.
He lowered his eyes from Weaver… no, from Taylor, then scratched Huntress again.
“We have the coordinates. Waiting for a charge,” Defiant announced. He was already flanked by the Dragon’s Teeth he’d brought with him.
“All gather,” Chevalier ordered.
Bitch snapped her fingers twice, and her dogs returned to her.
Theo raised his hands to his face to rub his eyes, and he felt damp on one cheek. One tear, fresh. He wiped his face, glancing around to check if anyone had seen it. No, not judging by the angle.
He donned his mask.
Golem now, Golem thought.
“We need to decide who goes where,” Defiant said. “The first teleportation marked coordinates on Houston.”
Weaver spoke up, “I noted Shatterbirds and Burnscars leaving, some Damsels, bunch of others I didn’t catch, but they had weapons and I’m thinking Winter or Crimson. There were some I parsed as hostages, but it’s only in retrospect that I’m thinking they were Nice Guys.”
“The second group made their way to New York.”
“Bonesaw and a captive Nilbog that’s apparently rigged to create things on demand,” Weaver said. “Crawlers, Breeds and a handful of others I didn’t identify.”
Chevalier reacted to that, flinching.
His city, Golem thought.
“And the last group headed to Los Angeles.”
“Jack’s group?” Golem asked.
“Yes,” Weaver said. “He brought the Siberian, Hookwolf, Gray Boy, all eight Harbingers, and there are Psychosomas and Nyxes. One or two others I didn’t place.”
“Los Angeles?” Chevalier asked. “What area?”
“That area,” Defiant answered, looking at the computer.
Chevalier nodded slowly.
Golem stared at the screen. He could see the satellite image, the concentric circles that marked the area around the blinking blue dot.
“Charge prepared. We can send one group at a time. They’ve already got a twelve minute headstart. It’ll be another eight minutes before we can send the second group, eight minutes after that before we can send the third.”
“The first group to arrive can call for help and get support to the other locations,” Chevalier said.
“Then why split up?” Weaver asked. “We should all hit Jack’s group, trust others to help in New York and Houston.”
“Everyone else is closer to New York,” Chevalier said. “But Houston…”
“We can call in favors,” Weaver said. “Moord Nag’s apparently on board, though we don’t know why. Cauldron’s on board. If we can get Tattletale in contact with them, that’s handled. But we can’t do that unless we leave.”
“That’s my city,” Hoyden said.
“I get that,” Weaver replied, “But we’re doing nothing constructive if we split up, and we’re definitely doing nothing constructive as long as we sit here.”
“Once we leave,” Defiant said, “We break the configuration cell and everything here breaks down on a Euclidean level. There’s no going back, changing our mind.”
“I get that,” Weaver said, “But two or three of us aren’t going to do anything special. We need big guns.”
Golem closed his eyes.
There she is. Weaver.
“She’s right,” Chevalier said, looking at Hoyden. “We’ll send every set of reinforcements we can, but it’s not worth what it costs us, to break up our group.”
“Shit,” Foil said.
Hoyden had gone stiff, bristling for an argument.
“I’m not saying we should abandon Houston,” Weaver said, before Hoyden could speak. “Defiant, can you postpone the collapse of this area?”
“Yes, but I don’t feel comfortable doing it,” he responded.
“I think you should,” she said. “Toybox left enough stuff behind. Use it. Stay behind, arm yourself, then throw everything but the kitchen sink at them. You remember how the scar formed in Brockton Bay?”
“Mm,” he said. “Tinker technology takes time to understand, to prepare. Too dangerous otherwise.”
“There’s a solution to that. I’ll point the way.”
Defiant hesitated.
Golem looked around the group, saw the expressions on faces, saw how even Hoyden had relaxed a fraction. Even the Dragon’s Tooth officers that accompanied them were a little more at ease. There were no answers in this situation, but there was a possibility. An option, vague as it was.
“Okay,” Defiant said.
Then, without so much as a farewell or a ‘good luck’, he hit the enter key.
Golem appeared a full four feet above the ground. He hit the ground and let his legs sink in, absorbing some of the fall. A second later, he pushed himself out.
Just the use of his power gave him a sense of the area. Touching the pavement gave him a sense of how all of the pavement around him was organized. It had been folded into itself, folded around, thinned, thickened, bent at right angles.
Looking around, he could see how the buildings had been altered. Textures had been removed, similar materials blended into one another, everything fortified, thickened, weaponized.
All around them, the buildings were like tombstones. Windowless, angular, all expression and human touches removed from them. Spikes studded corners and blocked alleyways, criss-crossed in front of doors, and carpeted pathways. Some were metal, others camouflaged.
They’d figured out how to fight Tohu and Bohu during the Los Angeles attack. The trick was responding quickly, stopping them before Tohu had her masks and Bohu managed her influence. They’d won, for lack of a better term, managing the fight without the casualties they’d seen in the prior attack, but they’d still lost a chunk of the city in the time it took them to beat and batter the towering Bohu into submission. Now Santa Fe Springs and all of the neighboring districts were uninhabitable, due to the traps that riddled it, the way the infrastructure had been completely and totally compromised.
Easier to found a new habitable area than to try to fix this, routing new pipes and power, managing traps both subtle and blatant.
Those same traps would be a problem here, but they weren’t entirely incapable. They’d dealt with this before.
Bitch’s dogs grew abruptly, then shook, sending blood and bits of flesh and bone everywhere.
“HQ, come in,” Chevalier murmured. He continued to speak, delivering the information about Jack and the target areas.
“Area’s empty,” Weaver said.
“A trap,” Golem responded. “Has to be.”
“Has to be. Why else come here?” Foil asked.
“Nyx illusions,” Tecton said, “He doesn’t know we’re aware of who he brought, so he’s set them up to stall us.”
Nyx. Her gas is concentrated into solid shapes that move at her will. Break that shape and it becomes a cloud of poisonous gas.
“Not that easy,” Weaver said. “Maybe he knows we know, and it’s a double-bluff.”
“Parian?” Weaver asked.
Parian nodded. She unfurled the bundle of cloth from her back, then quickly shaped it into a roughly humanoid shape.
A moment later, it was stomping ahead, forging the way.
Golem fell in step beside Tecton. Every footfall on a surface concentrated his awareness, informing him of every surface of a matching material in the area. Lightning flashes in his consciousness, showing the landscape around him. He deliberately stepped on other materials to inform himself on concrete, on brick, on steel and glass. His heavy boots made for a rhythmic sound, accompanied by the sounds of Chevalier and Tecton’s own heavy footfalls, and the rougher patter of the mutant dogs.
A girl’s voice, over the comm system. Not Tattletale.
“Golem, tell them to stop. Now.”
“Stop,” he said.
A second later, he wondered if he should mention this phantom voice. A trick on Screamer’s part?
“Thirty one,” she said.
“Thirty one?”
“More uses of my power. I’ve been testing it, straining it, figuring out my limits. I can’t make promises. Might be less. Might be able to squeeze out more. But it’s the best I can give you.“
The numbers clued him in, belatedly.
Dinah Alcott.
“There’s bigger problems,” she said. Her voice was quiet. “In two minutes, everyone but you dies. Seventy-two percent chance.“
He stopped short.
“Golem?” Hoyden asked.
“Solution?” he asked, he raised a hand.
“Can you think in abstracts?”
“Abstracts.”
“You’re… kind of scaring me, Golem my boy,” Hoyden said.
“He’s talking to someone in the comms,” Weaver said. “Tattletale? Not Tattletale.”
“Red means forward, left, attack, team. Blue means back, right, retreat, solo… I can only ask a certain number of questions a day. Ask, I can narrow it down, but it’s less help I can give later.”
One keyword, and he had to figure out what option it led to.
“Blue, Tecton. Retreat.”
“Back up,” he said.
Collectively, they retreated several steps.
A moment later, one small group of the Nine appeared, pushing their way through solid doorways, leaving colored smoke in their wakes.
Each was young. Teenagers. Each had a matching mask, a snarling face, complete with fangs and glowing dots in the dark eye sockets. Their clothing flowed, with hoods peaking above their heads. Each carried a different improvised weapon. A fire axe. A two-handed shovel. A makeshift spear.
“Harbingers,” Weaver said. “Don’t let them get close! Finish them quickly!”
“Color,” Golem whispered.
He went with his instincts more than anything else. “Retreat! Run!”
Parian’s doll reached out, and the Harbingers slipped out of the way of the hands, dodging by virtual hairs as they spun in tight circles, ducked and rolled. It was like the thing was moving in slow motion, but it wasn’t.
A fire axe and two kitchen knives slid through the creature’s body, severing seams. It deflated explosively.
Foil opened fire with her crossbow, aiming so it was on a path to hit two of the enemies, and the Harbingers dodged the shot.
She’s not supposed to miss.
Tecton shattered the ground, but it didn’t make the slightest difference. The Harbingers didn’t slow down.
They turned to run, belatedly.
Hoyden and Chevalier held their ground as others mounted dogs or took flight. Golem ran his fingertips along the panels at his armor, feeling the connections to the various substances around him flare, touched the one for pavement.
He thrust his hand inside. A small hand, emerging as fast as he could shove his hand inside the panel. He reached for the closest Harbinger’s foot.
The young villain pulled his leg up out of the way, virtually spinning as he stepped to the side, planted the same foot on solid ground, then resumed his forward momentum. No luck. It was like Harbinger could see it coming.
Weaver’s bugs were swarming the Harbingers, but they took to spinning, relying on the movement of their hoods and the flowing black clothes to drive the bugs away, batting them aside. Even the threads seemed to fail to do anything substantial, getting caught up in the approaching villains as they moved.
Like whirling dervishes, they closed the distance.
He thrust his hand into the pavement again, and this time, he created a platform like the one he’d fashioned in Ellisburg. Raising them up off the ground, out of reach.
If there was any difficulty getting down and resuming their search for Jack, he’d deal with that when they weren’t all about to be murdered.
The Harbingers scaled the sides of buildings as if they were running across horizontal terrain. Weapons, fingers and boots found traction in the surfaces, and they climbed with an easy, almost eerie ease, as though they were almost floating.
Climbing faster than the hand was rising.
Three reached the top of the building, and as if they’d coordinated, planned this well in advance, they set foot on the edge of the rooftop and kicked off. They ignored the bugs that plagued them as if they weren’t even there, weren’t binding them with silk.
They flipped heel over head, their backs to Golem, Hoyden, Tecton and Chevalier, the two Dragon’s Teeth. Rachel, Parian and Foil were on the dog’s backs, and Weaver was airborne.
The Dragon’s Teeth aimed containment foam at the three Harbingers. The clones pulled off their flowing jackets with sleeves that almost covered their hands, catching the foam, then landed. One swept the bundle of foam to try to knock a D.T. officer off his feet. The officer hopped up, then struck out at the Harbinger clone.
No use, Golem thought. A mistake. Harbinger caught the arm, almost effortlessly turned around, pulling him in the direction of the turn. A little push, and the soldier fell.
“He’s okay,” Dinah said. “Blue!”
Run, retreat. As if there was a place to go.
Two attacks struck in concert, a kitchen knife and a fire axe, and a heavy piece of Tecton’s armor was decimated, one gauntlet ruined.
No use.
One more landed on the heel of the hand.
Revel opened fire with a dozen orbs, but the enemy avoided them with an almost casual ease. She reprogrammed them, altering the orbs’ properties, and this time they homed in on their targets. The Harbingers dodged them, used the changed trajectories to lure them into nearly striking the D.T. officer and Chevalier. She stopped, hanging back.
Chevalier swung his sword, pulled the trigger mid-swing to shoot at one Harbinger that stood on a fingertip of the reaching hand-platform. Both attacks missed.
The Harbinger closest to him stepped close, almost casually, and drove a paring knife through a slit in Chevalier’s visor.
His good eye, Golem realized.
Nobody had figured out Harbinger’s power, before Harbinger disappeared off the face of the planet. It was an ugly reality that such questions weren’t always answered. The best guess suggested a hyperawareness of space and the movements of their own bodies.
But being able to figure out that Chevalier was half-blind, being able to blind his good eye?
One stepped close, holding a ball-peen hammer in each hand. He closed on Golem, invading his personal space, until their noses were touching.
Golem tried to wrap the Harbinger in a bear-hug, felt only the faint drag of cloth against the metal of his gauntlets, empty air. His intended target had ducked low.
He drove a knee forward. Tight, contained movements, give them as little to work with as possible.
No contact. Of course.
He was rewarded with a swat of the hammer against his mask, shattering one lens. He’d thought he was out of reach, but the boy held only the very end of the hammer between index and middle finger. He tossed the hammer in the air, letting it spin head over end.
Golem struck at the flying hammer, but another strike of the hammer caught his arm. His fingertips fell short, and the handle of the weapon rolled over the back of his hand. The Harbinger caught it, then thrust it forward in the same motion, driving the top of the hammer against Golem’s nose.
“Don’t kill him,” another Harbinger said.
“I know,” was the reply.
They didn’t even sound winded.
None of the others were doing demonstrably better. The remaining D.T. officer was holding his own, but the others were being slowly, systematically beaten.
He’s dragging it out. They’re making this into a game.
No use letting this go on.
He retreated, only to find one Harbinger sticking a foot out, planting a foot on the small of his back. He was pushed forward, then promptly struck in the abdomen.
Rather than try to defend himself, he tucked his chin to his collar-bone, let himself fall, and thrust his hands into the armor panels for pavement.
Double-thrust, one hand extending from the other, pushing Chevalier off the hand.
Another motion, simultaneous, to bring a hand of stone out of the wall behind Chevalier. It emerged slower, but it formed a shelf, and Chevalier landed on that ledge.
The Harbingers could dodge, but his teammates were valid targets.
Another thrust, this time for himself.
Selfish, maybe, but he couldn’t save anyone if they were interfering with him.
One struck at his leg as he launched himself off the hand. It altered his trajectory, put him on a course where there wasn’t anything nearby to catch himself with.
Two hands, into brick. One connected to the other. While they were new, he could move them. Trouble with having them against the side of his body was that he couldn’t get a full range of movement like he could get with his arms. No matter. He caught himself by the mask, then pulled himself closer to the building.
Another hand, another shelf.
Hoyden exploded, but the Harbingers didn’t get hurt. They spun, spreading the damage around like a person might roll to absorb a fall, ducking and sidestepping to put themselves at the periphery of the effect.
“Scion’s closing in,” Dinah said. “Blue, Golem. It’s still blue. I can’t use my power too many times today, but your numbers are getting worse and the answer keeps turning up blue. Retreat, go right, go solo or go back.“
“Someone needs to intercept Scion,” Weaver said, over the comm system. “We can’t have him get involved.“
“You go,” Chevalier said.
Golem searched the sky, then spotted Weaver at the fringe of the battle, surrounded by a cloud of bugs.
She took off.
Golem grit his teeth. More immediate things to focus on. He tried to launch Tecton to freedom, but the Harbingers intercepted him, driving Tecton out of the way in the same instant the hand appeared.
The D.T. soldier managed to deliver a glancing blow. Golem couldn’t tell if it was intentional or not, because the hit was followed by the D.T. soldier being caught with a length of cloth wound around one wrist.
Tecton stepped in, drawing attention and striking out with his gauntlets, one damaged and one intact. It bought the D.T. soldier some room.
Golem took the opportunity to launch the soldier to safety.
There were others on the ground, approaching.
One of these bastards could probably take us apart. Eight of them, we can’t hurt them, we’re losing time, burning resources.
Tecton glanced at Hoyden. A communication seemed to pass between them.
They struck the palm of the hand, and the entire thing shattered.
Hoyden, Tecton and five of the Harbingers descended with a shower of rubble.
Hoyden and Tecton broke their fall with uses of their respective powers. Hoyden hit the ground to generate an explosion. Tecton punched the earth with his piledriver in the instant he reached solid ground.
The Harbingers didn’t have that ability. A five-story drop. People had died or been seriously hurt after a three-story drop.
Nobody told them that. In the midst of the thin cloud of dust and the chunks of debris, the Harbingers moved without wincing or giving any sign of pain, their black-clothed forms rising from the ground like spectres.
“Talk to me, Dinah,” Golem said.
“Situation’s getting worse. Numbers are getting worse, across the board. I’m not asking any specific questions, but I can sense it, just… the big picture. It’s not working.“
There’s an answer here, and we can’t see it.
“Blue… Backwards, go right, retreat, solo? What’s that last one?”
“Abstracts. Nothing specific. It’s only as meaningful as it helps you come to the right decision.”
He stared at Hoyden and Tecton, surrounded by the eight Harbingers.
“If I leave… how does that change the numbers?”
“Chances for Tecton and the others?”
“Better than they were.”
This was hell, Golem mused. This was the nightmare that had driven Weaver from her home city, drove her to surrender.
The right path, but god damn, did it look ugly.
He bit his lip, then formed another pair of connected hands to launch himself skyward. He reached the apex of his flight, then created a shelf to land on. He did it again, and this time the shelf he created was just at the edge of the roof. He stepped over onto the rooftop, then broke into a run.
“Saving Tecton, red or blue.”
“Golem, we didn’t get a chance to go over this earlier, but you need to know… I can’t ask that many questions. I’ve been saving my power for the last big confrontation. Tattletale said this is the time to act. I used my power twice to answer big questions earlier today. Another three to figure out who I needed to talk to, and that told me-“
“I’m the best partner for you?”
“Right now, yes. Listen. Twenty-six questions left. We haven’t even found Jack. I can’t figure it out.“
He stood on the rooftop, then extended his arms out to either side.
She couldn’t read his mind, so it was only identifying options. Everything to the left of his nose was blue, everything to the right was red.
“Red or blue. Now.”
“Blue. Twenty-five.“
“Jack’s to my left,” he said. He turned ninety degrees. “Again.”
“Blue. I’m- My power’s getting fuzzier.”
Scion.
He looked up at the sky. Weaver with her swarm was there, forming a great wall across the sky, as if to draw attention to herself. Scion was approaching, a ray of golden light streaking across the overcast sky above.
Scion shut down precog abilities.
He felt something knot in his stomach, an ugly feeling, ominous.
“Let’s get as much use out of it as possible. Saving Tecton and the others… Red or blue!”
“Red. Twenty-three.”
He hesitated. “It’s not me going back?”
“No. I don’t think so. I just asked and it said no.”
Break it down. Attack, left for blue. Group, forward for red. “Again.”
“Golem, we can’t waste questions like this. We-“
Group or forward, he thought, assigning colors to each option. “Again.”
“Blue. Somewhere between eighty and ninety percent chance. I- I’m going blind here, Golem.”
Group, but not returning to join the others?
He went with his gut.
“Tattletale, are you listening?”
“Reinforcements. Call in the big guns.”
“With Jack close? That’s against the quarantine.”
“Dinah, does it improve our chances, everyone’s chances, as far as this end of the world scenario?”
“Yes. A lot,” she sounded genuinely surprised. “Twenty.”
“Cauldron’s refusing aid,” Tattletale said. “They said it’s because Scion’s presence is blocking their clairvoyant. They’re lying.“
High above, Scion reached a stop, hovering in front of Weaver, who hung in the air in turn, using her flight pack.
Golem tore his eyes away from the scene. He glanced down at the street, where Bitch, Parian and Foil were reinforcing Tecton and Hoyden, backing them up as the Harbingers approached. One Harbinger threw something, and a dog dropped like its heart had stopped.
He shook his head. He could watch forever, but they were better served by having him elsewhere.
The sooner he got Jack, the better.
“Jack is southwest of my location,” he reported. “Heading off solo on precog advisement.”
He bolted, running. His power bridged gaps between buildings. He set his foot down on the corner of one rooftop, then vaulted himself over a trap that he sensed just a foot in front of him. His landing jarred it into motion, provoking a deadfall, a slice of building that toppled and dropped onto the narrow street below.
Another hand broke a row of spikes that lined the edge of another rooftop.
Once, he’d been fat. Once, he’d been out of shape. Two years and a mission had given him the chance to remedy that. He wasn’t conventionally fit, still had a bit of stockiness to him, but the fat was gone. He had muscle. Running with Weaver had made this doable.
Twenty more precog answers.
“Numbers if I stay on the rooftops?”
“Twenty to thirty percent chance of injury or being taken out of action.”
“If I’m on the ground?”
“Fifty-something. Eighteen questions left.”
Her numbers were getting less accurate, the picture of the situation cloudier.
Too many powerful individuals in the area, too many chances of disaster, too many unknowns.
He set foot on one rooftop that had changed less than most, and the lightning flash was a staggered one, as his feet first touched gravel, then the material of the rooftop beneath that gravel.
The next rooftop wasn’t made of either material. It wasn’t made of brick or concrete.
He created two hands, chaining them together, and extended the hand into the building.
It detonated into a massive cloud of smoke.
He launched himself away to avoid it, but it wasn’t enough. The smoke flowed towards him like a wall, too vast to avoid.
Too vast to avoid so long as he remained on the rooftop. He shoved himself off, created more hands to form a series of ledges that might serve as a staircase.
The smoke still loomed.
He got as close to the ground as he could, then launched himself to safety.
Golem was panting as he rested on the ground. Psychosoma’s monsters emerged from the smoke, one using the same ledges he’d created to descend, the other crawling on the outside of the building. Homeless, to look at them, twisted into monstrous shapes. False shapes. He could deal enough damage and break the effect, and they’d be human again, unhurt.
Simpler than it sounded. If he broke the effect for one, the other would tear the freed victim apart.
Golem rose to his feet, backing away as swiftly as he could. He was out of reach of the smoke, but these things, they were a distraction, a speed bump.
He waited, dropping into a fighting stance as they approached. They broke into runs, charging him blindly, two figures so thin they didn’t look real, their fingers and feet twisted into claws as long as his forearm.
They plummeted into a pit in the middle of the road.
Golem rose from the fighting stance, then hurried on. His footsteps continued to mark the surfaces around him, making it clear where there were more of Nyx’s illusions, more traps left over from the Tohu-Bohu attack.
His other enemies wouldn’t be so gullible.
“Left or right?” he asked. He had a mental map of the surroundings.
“Left. Somewhere around a ninety percent chance Jack’s in that direction.”
Each question narrowed down the possibilities. From fifty percent of the area to twenty-five percent, then twelve and a half percent… now six percent. It was a small enough slice that he didn’t need to wonder as much. If he kept on this course, he could find his target.
“Right route,” Dinah said. “It’s… it’s really fuzzy, but I still feel like the bloody, ugly ends aren’t so close.”
“A good feeling,” Theo said.
“In a numbery way.”
A numbery way.
“Status,” he said. “Not a question. Just… I need to know what’s going on.”
“The others are… okay,” Dinah replied. “Defiant just arrived in Houston with a giant robot that only has one arm and one leg, and we’ve got…”
Dinah’s voice continued, but he didn’t hear it.
Golem slowed to a walk as he saw his new surroundings. The tombstones of Bohu’s area were still here, but they were scarred.
A thousand times a thousand cuts.
“Theodore,” Jack said.
Jack emerged, and he wasn’t holding a knife. He held a sword, nearly four feet long. A claymore. His shirt was unbuttoned, showing a body without a trace of fat. His beard had been meticulously trimmed, but that had easily been a day ago. His neck had scruff on it. Strands of dark hair fell across eyes with lines in the corner as he stared at Golem.
Golem had gotten this far.
Jack let the blade’s point swing idly at calf-level, pointed off to one side. Cuts gouged the road’s surface. Theo let his fingers trace the panels on his armor. Steel, iron, aluminum, woods, stone…
His second sense marked various items in the surrounding area that were made of the same substance, even marked the trap off to his left, but it didn’t touch any part of the sword.
“All on your lonesome,” Jack said.
“Yes,” Theo answered, sounding braver than he felt.
His finger touched other panels. Brick, asphalt, concrete, porcelain…
The sword remained out of his power’s reach. He’d put so much stock in being able to disarm Jack.
With each contact, he felt the accompanying flashes, tried to put together a mental picture of his surroundings.
Two false building faces, just a little ahead of him. They had to be Nyx-made. If he advanced, she’d break the illusion, and he’d be surrounded in the noxious smoke. At best, he’d pass out. At worst, he’d pass out and wake up to permanent brain damage and organ failure. Or being in the clutches of the Nine.
Jack let the sword swing, and Golem tensed. The blade didn’t come anywhere close to pointing at him, but Jack’s power cut shallow gouges into the surrounding brick, stone and pavement.
“Alone,” Jack said, again.
Because of you, Golem thought.
He clenched his fist.
Tears were forming in his eyes. Ridiculous. Wasn’t supposed to be what happened in this kind of situation.
Jack, in turn, smiled slowly. “Quiet. I was thinking that after all this time, we could have some witty banter. You can scream your fury at me, curse me for killing your loved ones. Then you do your best to tear me apart.”
“Oh!” Jack smiled wider. “Show mercy, then? Walk away from the fight and show you’re the better man, rather than descending to my level? I’ve been waiting for someone to pull that ever since I saw it happen in a movie.”
“This isn’t a movie.”
“No. It’s very, very real, Theodore,” Jack said. He paced a little, letting the sword drag on the ground. The blade was white, Golem noted. White, exceptionally sharp.
Mannequin-made?
Or was this Jack an illusion? Nyx could imitate voices. She could create the gouges in the walls by way of the illusory smoke.
Golem paced a little too, mirroring Jack’s movements.
“Well, I’m not sure what you expect, then, Theodore. The fat little boy promised me he’d become the kind of hero that would put down monsters like me. I gave you two years, and you’ve made it at least partway. Did you change your mind on the killing part?”
“No. I will kill you.”
“So tough! So brave! All of this from the-”
“Stop talking, Jack. You’re not that clever, not as sharp as you like to think. You talked to me about keystones? Bullshit. You’re a sad, pathetic killer with delusions of grandeur.”
Jack’s smile dropped from his face. He held the Claymore with one hand, the blade’s point touching the ground, and spread his arms. His unbuttoned shirt parted, showing the whole of his bare shirt and stomach. Showing himself to be vulnerable, exposed.
“Then do your worst, Theodore. Because if you don’t, I will.”
“Dinah,” he whispered.
“With you. Gray boy isn’t near. Nyx and Hookwolf are. Fifteen questions. I had to use one to help the others.”
He nodded slowly.
I don’t like the illusory building faces. Too much poisonous smoke was needed to make that sort of thing, it had to be multiple Nyxes working in concert. They’d be close, probably.
Which said nothing of the other threats that loomed behind the fog. Psychosoma’s creations?
Golem reached up to his gloves, then tore off the protectors on his knuckles. They fell to the ground. Beneath were spikes.
“Nice touch,” Jack said.
Golem spread his arms. “What do you-”
Mid-sentence, still talking, he let his arms fall, driving them into panels at his side.
Jack hopped back out of reach of the hands, seizing his sword. He drew it back.
Golem created another hand. Not to catch Jack, but to catch the blade.
It had backfired, if anything. The hand caught the tip of the blade, but the sword slid free of the grip and flew around with more force. Golem leaped back, letting himself fall, and let his feet slide into the pavement. Two boots rose from the ground, shielding him as the slash caught the surface.
Weaver’s lessons. Catching the enemy off guard by any means necessary, rolling with the punches, or rolling with the effects of the enemy’s attack.
Had to use Dinah’s ability, divide everything into two equally viable actions, so he wasn’t caught off guard.
Still prone, still shielded and out of sight, he reached into the ground with both hands.
Two hands, flattened, jabbed for Jack’s leg, stabbing at ankle and calf. Jack backed away again before they made contact, slashed again.
This time, the slash caught a section of Golem’s armor that was sticking out of cover. The cut made a mark nearly a foot deep in the ground, but it served only to split the pauldron in half. A section of metal fell to the ground.
He created two connected hands of pavement, then whipped them to throw the section of pauldron at Jack. The trajectory suggested it would fly a little to Jack’s left.
Golem jabbed one hand into the ground, and a flattened hand stabbed out from the spinning piece of metal, extending as the projectile flew.
Jack ducked, but Golem was already thrusting his other hand into the earth. It jutted from the hand he’d created, doubling the length in short order. More of a crude boomerang in shape than a chunk of metal.
It only clipped Jack, just barely.
“Clever boy,” Jack said. “You-”
“Stop talking, Jack,” Golem responded.
For Aster, for Kayden, even for the others…
He thrust his hands into the ground, repeatedly, and they stabbed at the underside of Jack’s feet. He leaped back out of reach and swung his sword the instant he touched ground.
The action cut through the remainder of the shield Golem had raised, but it also kept Jack in one place. He caught the underside of Jack’s foot. Jack stumbled as he pulled himself free of Golem’s grip.
He reached out to stab out with two interconnected hands, the same technique he used to launch himself.
But Jack evaded it, slid out of the way, almost as if he knew the strike was coming.
Golem moved to get into a position to strike again, and realized in the moment that it would take too long.
He was crouched, still, his hands remained buried, and Jack was already drawing his sword back. He couldn’t mount a defense in time.
He braced himself. With luck, his armor could take it.
The attack didn’t come.
No. Jack laughed, instead. His icy blue eyes were fixed at a point beyond Golem.
Golem chanced a look over his shoulder.
He saw a figure dropping out of the sky, trailed by what looked like a comet’s trail of black shapes. Weaver. Her course changed as she flew away, using the Bohu-warped buildings for cover.
And where she’d been, just moments ago, a dull gray light hung in the sky.
Scion. Trapped in Gray Boy’s time-well.
Jack’s laugh rang through the area.
The figure inside moved, but only barely. The well trapped powers within. Kayden’s lasers wouldn’t exit the area. Crusader’s duplicates wouldn’t be able to wander beyond the well’s limits.
And Scion didn’t appear to be any different.
“I’m sorry, my boy,” Jack said.
Golem whipped his head around. Jack had backed up a short distance.
Jack chuckled, as if he still found something funny about the situation. “Ah well. I’m disappointed. I’m not sensing it, your killer instinct.”
“I’m prepared to finish you,” Golem said.
“You’re prepared? Maybe. But not practiced. No. I don’t see this going anywhere interesting. It’s about the ripples. You remember our conversation?”
Theo nodded slowly. The ripples from a butterfly’s wing. The effects that extend out from any event.
“You? This? It’s nothing. What ripples extend from this? You’re weak. That?” Jack pointed at Scion, trapped in the sky.
Golem chanced another look. Nothing had changed. Scion remained fixed in place.
“That interests me.”
He climbed to his feet, eyes on Jack’s weapon.
Jack reached into his belt, then drew a knife.
Golem tensed. Faster than the sword, if not quite so capable of chewing through his armor.
But Jack didn’t attack him. He struck at the building faces.
The surfaces dissolved into rolling clouds of smoke. Golem vaulted himself back twice in quick succession to escape it, then continued to back away for good measure.
“You’ve failed to amuse me. A shame your sister’s been shot, and there’s nothing interesting to do with the hostages,” Jack called out, his voice ringing along the length of the street. With no details or features on the outsides of the buildings Bohu had altered, the voice carried in an odd way.
A shadow emerged. Jack, riding atop a massive six-legged beast.
As Jack approached, he became more visible, and the nature of the beast became clear. He stood on Hookwolf’s back, between the creature’s shoulders.
Other shadows appeared in the mist, and they, in turn, clarified as they approached. Crawlers. Mannequins. Crimsons. Others.
Done in by my dad’s lieutenant, Golem thought. No way he was walking away from this.
“I suppose we’ll kill you,” Jack said. “And you’ll just have to take me on my word when I say I’ll find something suitably horrific to do as punishment for your failing our little game.”
Theo raised a hand as a shield even before Jack used his power in conjunction with Hookwolf’s. A hand of pavement, struck by a thousand slashes in a matter of a second, whittled to nothing. Then he had only armor, and that, too, started to come apart.
The cuts that followed parted flesh.
This entry was posted in 26.a (Interlude A) and tagged Bastard, Bitch, Chevalier, Gray Boy, Hookwolf, Hoyden, Jack, Revel, Saint, Scion, Taylor, Tecton, Theo by wildbow. Bookmark the permalink.
351 thoughts on “Interlude 26a”
wildbow on August 6, 2013 at 00:04 said:
I’ll be frank. Ran out of time/space/words. This wound up being 8k words long, but I didn’t get everything I imagined into the chapter. So I’m cutting the event into pieces.
Interludes Thursday and Saturday.
Thanks for reading. Stay tuned!
And if you’re willing, votes on Topwebfiction would be appreciated – sitting at a relatively low 140 at the time of this comment.
WyldCard4 on August 6, 2013 at 00:22 said:
Honestly, the cliffhanger was great. From the looks of it I’m kind of glad it turned out this way, deciding based off limited information. This is a great chapter.
Not sure if it’s a spoiler or not so feel free not to answer, but are the remaining interludes Theo PoV or another point of view?
Agreed — good cliffhanger. Highly cliffhangery — Golem’s in deep trouble.
My god, Jack can use Hookwolf’s blades for his power? That is synergy taken to a truly unfair degree. Especially since it looks like he just has to touch one part of Hookwolf to use all the blades.
DasNiveau on August 6, 2013 at 03:11 said:
Theo can merge with materials but not with Jacks extended Blades… so … Theo gets shreddered.
TapiocaTalks on August 6, 2013 at 09:45 said:
Also, can’t he only merge his arms and legs. Still possible he gets injured but someone (Skitter?) intervenes before he dies.
As for Aster, if I were in the messed up head space of Jack, I’d probably find it funny to replace her with one of the baby clones. It’s possible that’s who Skitter killed. About surviving a gunshot to the head, wasn’t Purity about to jump out the window rather than let Gray Boy take Aster? Possible there was already a protective power we don’t know about.
And lastly, next interlude- I’m guessing/hoping Scion. Now that he’s in a time loop, he should have plenty of time to reminisce… (too early for jokes?)
Wildbow, you’re amazing.
Keno Black on August 6, 2013 at 15:34 said:
Remember, this is Worm we’re speaking of. Who’s to say Jack wouldn’t use Hookwolf AS his weapon, and rip Theo apart?
Characters we love die brutally here.
*still crying over Battery*
Psycho Gecko on August 7, 2013 at 03:21 said:
Reminds me of this book that doesn’t actually exist: http://100daystyleradamsmith.tumblr.com/post/53339667358/day-67-100-george-r-r-martin-i-will-kill
Stephen R. Marsh on August 6, 2013 at 11:19 said:
“Interludes Thursday and Saturday.” That changes up the nature of the cliff hanger even more. I’m impressed.
Hi Frank. I’ll be Earnest.
Charles Borner on August 6, 2013 at 00:07 said:
Arr! This here be the Typo Thread!
Ye be postin’ yer observances of yon Wildbow’s salty mistakes!
Or it’s the locker for ye!
He could see the twisted logic of it, even. As if there was a binary to everything, every enemy
Paragraph is cut off.
Those poor dogs.
Adam on August 6, 2013 at 00:44 said:
“Defiant, maybe, would avert their eyes.”
Should be his eyes.
Torn on August 6, 2013 at 08:31 said:
Funny thing is, prior to Dragon’s… deletion? It WOULD have been “their” eyes. XD
Pinkhair on August 6, 2013 at 00:47 said:
“Hookwolf Gray Boy” Missing comma.
“the second groups,” group.
“be what happed in” Happened.
peter o on August 6, 2013 at 03:45 said:
to try to knock a D.T. officer off his feet. Jack hopped up, then struck out.
Should that be the DT officer?
*Should that be the DT officer hopped up and struck out?
grimGrendel on August 6, 2013 at 10:10 said:
“Easier to found a new habitable”
=> to find
alextfish on February 25, 2014 at 06:20 said:
A handful of typos:
– Need different punctuation before “he raised a hand”
Rachel, Parian and Foil were on the dog’s backs
– Assuming the dog isn’t more mutated than usual, I think this should be “dogs’ backs”. Also it’s odd for Golem to think of Rachel as Rachel not Bitch.
He held the Claymore
– “Claymore” hadn’t been capitalised so far
Gray boy isn’t near
– “Boy” should be capitalised
Being alone as often as he had –> had been? As often as he was?
as far as this end of the world scenario ‘was concerned’?
scipio on August 6, 2013 at 00:09 said:
Shit they got scion. I would have though Scion would have been able to escape. I guess Gray boy is that fucking broken.
Farmerbob1 on August 6, 2013 at 03:46 said:
Or maybe someone has to tell Scion to break free, because he doesn’t think much for himself.
AMR on August 6, 2013 at 03:50 said:
That…would be hilarious. Not sure I buy it, but still, hilarious.
Reveen on August 6, 2013 at 08:25 said:
I wonder what he’s thinking…
youtube.com/watch?v=4e_mWJ3Vv2Y
notes on August 6, 2013 at 00:16 said:
Insomnia won.
Scion caged is disasterous.
Next up, Ragnarok.
k4rv3r on August 6, 2013 at 00:38 said:
Ragnarok should be the name of the next Endbringer.
If Jack has anything to do with it we’ll have to call the thing Smugnarok.
TOTALLY CAME UP WITH THAT ON MY OWN. TOTALLY DIDN’T STEAK IT.
STEAL IT. FUCK.
Now I’m remembering that bit in that kid’s book Bunnicula when Harold and Chester (the family dog and cat) are trying to kill the rabbit-vampire by driving a steak through his heart.
Just Typo Things on May 15, 2016 at 11:08 said:
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endochrom on August 6, 2013 at 00:20 said:
Oh. What a cliffhanger this is. Scion incapable of escape, Golem on the verge of death. The bad guys are winning.
On the upside Bitch is really getting the hang of the whole ’empathy’ thing.
endgame on August 6, 2013 at 00:27 said:
On the upside Bitch is really getting the hang of the whole ‘empathy’ thing.
Well, that’s something, at least.
It’s the little things which count.
I like that Bitch said Taylor and Theo were both acting differently. A nice touch, noting that Theo wasn’t the only one feeling it.
Someguy on August 6, 2013 at 00:43 said:
I find it hilarious that Rachael of all people has a better read on their emotional ques than the rest of the group.
She’s really good with body language. And she knows Taylor.
Yes. Taylor’s body speaks to her, and she knows its language.
Come on, it’s been years. No way they’re still a ship. It’s probably all about Sveta/Victoria (Garrote/Glory Girl) now.
TheAnt87 on August 6, 2013 at 16:00 said:
I actually think Bitch thinks of her as family, maybe something akin to a sister. Taylor outright admits that she has long since stopped thinking of her as anything but Rachel now. Garrote/Glory Girl would be difficult due to Glory Girl being unable to move, though maybe Dragon helped turn them into cyborgs to help them move around. It worked for the Defiant terminator and she mentioned 3d printers when it happened. They could use the firepower, and we have already seen Dragon tech start to me semi-mass produced.
Given that Glory Girl was remade by, well, kind of a sexual predator, she probably has some form of genitals or at least something that would approximate them for sexual use. She’s also invincible so Garrote would be unlikely to harm her accidentally.
Bitch/Rachel is a bit difficult to psychoanalyze given she doesn’t have a fully human psychology or a fully canine psychology. She probably sees her as a family member, but “wife” is a member of your family as well, so the two are not entirely mutually exclusive. Personally I don’t ship her with anyone.
Puppy Therapy continues.
When you’re standing on a pile of dead bodies that includes your four year old baby half sister and staring at a spike where someone was crucified to a wall, sometimes you just need to scratch a puppy.
negadarkwing on August 6, 2013 at 07:08 said:
I don’t think that Racheal lacks empathy. It’s more like she goes to such a basic, primal level of emotion that most people don’t know how to deal with it, without all the normal social cues.
Also in Bitch’s mind Theo would have just lost his whole pack. I think she can relate. Remember when Leviathan killed all her dogs?
ShawnMorgan on August 6, 2013 at 13:02 said:
She knows who Theo is, knows he needs something and does something. she’s going to save the world with puppy therapy. The Simrugh will end up labrador puppied puppied into surrender
irrevenant on July 30, 2014 at 18:35 said:
Yeah. I LoLed at the return of puppy therapy. Okay, more sort of snorted… xD
John Campbell on July 1, 2015 at 17:53 said:
When all you’ve got is puppies, everyone looks like they need puppy therapy.
irrevenant on July 1, 2015 at 18:56 said:
*Everyone* needs puppy therapy.
Except maybe cat people, but screw those guys… 😛
razorsmile on August 6, 2013 at 00:23 said:
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Nymphrena on August 6, 2013 at 01:49 said:
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wash17 on August 6, 2013 at 02:29 said:
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU *breathe* UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
yinyangorwuji on August 6, 2013 at 11:25 said:
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entertheplayers on August 6, 2013 at 13:52 said:
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK-K-K-K-KOMBO BREAKER.
Well… Yes. Quite.
underwhelmingforce on August 6, 2013 at 00:43 said:
Ninja’d me!
Or at least, that’s what I was going to say.
Till you ninja’d yourself
soulpelt on August 6, 2013 at 00:24 said:
DAMMIT WILDBOW. DDDDAAAAMMMMIIITTT!!!!!!!!
Can’t wait for part 2
rmctagg09 on August 6, 2013 at 00:27 said:
Well fuck.
randomsoul2 on August 6, 2013 at 00:30 said:
I concur with this assessment.
Though on the subject, a minor mechanics question,if it isn’t a spoiler…
What are the rules regarding what Jack can and can’t extend? What defines a blade for purposes of his power, and what does his relationship to it need to be? Clearly it’s not just whatever he’s holding, since he could use his power in tandem with Hookwolf’s. So is it just any blade near him?
If so, I imagine he’d be very dangerous in a literal slaughterhouse.
And to think, he could have been an awesome prostitute or porn star depending on what he can extend.
Xomniac on August 6, 2013 at 09:10 said:
Come on Packbat, that has GOT to be worth going in the CMOF!
Erratic on August 6, 2013 at 09:45 said:
Nah, it’s just crass.
You know registering a TV Tropes account is free, right? You can edit the pages yourself and we won’t mind.
Will try and sign up when i come home tonight and try to take some weight off you. But damn you’ve done a fine job with tropes. Thanks on that score PB
Much appreciated (and you’re welcome)!
Willy (@Willy591) on August 6, 2013 at 00:28 said:
I had a feeling Scion would be neutralized somehow, but I couldn’t think of how. I wonder what the limits on Gray Boy’s powers are. To affect Scion is impressive indeed, since nothing so far has even touched him. Even Eidolon’s forcefield that contained a nuclear blast was blown apart by Scion’s beam, so Gray Boy’s power is obviously quite conceptual, kinda like Clockblocker’s somehow or Foil’s in that it simply works.
Big question for me going forward are:
1. How did Gray Boy affect Scion?
2. Will Gray Boy’s death or neutralization, if it ever happens, free the people he trapped?
3. Will Scion, independent of Gray Boy ending the loop, escape?
4. What’s Cauldron’s role in this?
5. How will Gray Boy be neutralized, if ever?
Can’t wait for more, this interlude was fun. Everyone did feel a bit Worfed in the fight scene with Harbinger, but there isn’t much you can do against a high level precog other than throw your own against ’em to confuse ’em. I think an attack or two hitting them would have served to distinguish them in terms of skill from Contessa (who stomps completely), since the Number Man’s interlude did have him thinking that the Case53 he tracks down come close to hitting him.
Loki-L on August 6, 2013 at 00:32 said:
When Gray Boy talked to Kayden he talked about coming back to her centuries later because they had the ability to clone etc and he talked about the power continuing to work until the sun grew cold. This would imply that it goes on even after he is dead.
1. Presumably Gray Boy’s powers are just that hax in some capacity. It indicates that other “perfect” effects may also have the ability to harm him in some capacity. It seems that his powers directly contain parahuman abilities, which explains why Purity didn’t fry Aster’s brain with a laser last chapter when Gray Boy took her.
2. Almost certainly not.
3. I suspect that this is probable but the removal of Zion at this point could be a great way of increasing the stakes.
4. Impossible to say without more information. The weak answer is that Cauldron just doesn’t want to deal with the Harbingers given the circumstances.
5. I suspect he can be killed relatively easily. He has great defensive powers, but he just resets himself as long as he can think.
I don’t quite get Number Man. His own interlude had a fight I didn’t quite get where he won despite a power that seemed to counter his own quite well. I think he has something we’re not quite getting about his Thinker abilities like increased speed or some kind of telekinesis to explain his feats.
I can’t say I have a great memory of his interlude but doesn’t his power basically let him calculate his surroundings and the events which happen within them. His power reduces all given factors to raw data and gives him the ability to comprehend that data. So he is able to calculate the precise angle, force and timing of an opponents swing before they have even begun it proper.
That said he could definitely have another more physical power.
Jim Lee on August 6, 2013 at 00:49 said:
I think the issue with all those Harbingers was how beautifully they complement each other. Their combined combat Thinking means the fuckers form a combat unit which is way, way stronger than the sum of its parts.
Yeah. Basically they were including what the other Harbingers did in their calculations, thus maxing their power’s effectiveness.
Why haven’t they just nuked the city? Sometime I was unsure about as well, what ARE the limits of harbinger’s power? Does it not work if he cannot perceive variables? He obviously can see down to the level of things like air currents at this point, but you can’t derive a result with inaccurate data all the time, and he’s not actually a precog. Wouldn’t his weakness be a cape with only partial control over their powers, and random activation that aren’t predictable?
Yeah, I would have thought Harbinger/Number Man would be an approximation of Contessa’s true perfection seeing as his power only show him the path, he still has to walk it. Contessa’s, on the other hand, guides her every step.
Oh well. An approximation of perfection is still pretty damn powerful. One of them should have died though. Or been hurt at least.
4. This interests me the most currently. Cauldron has the ability to end the clones (established that in the Bonesaw chapter, correct?) but hasn’t intervened much. Are they even trying to stop the end of this world? Do they have a bigger scheme/plan in mind? Perhaps phasing over to a world where everyone is “evolved” (with parahuman abilities) and Cauldron rules? I guess their holding out could be a result of Contessa’s power and strategically planning when to act.
Saint: Oh man, oh man, oh man. Doc, you gotta help. I really fucked up this time.
Doctor Mother: Sorry, can’t. It’s the Shabbos.
Saint: Wait, what? Are you even Jew-
Doctor: I’m shomer fucking Shabbos! *click*
Will you come off it, Doc? You’re not even fucking Jewish, man.
Doctor Mother: What the fuck are you talkin’ about?
Man, you’re fucking Polish Catholic.
Doctor Mother: What the fuck are you talking about? I converted when I got married. Come on, Gecko!
Yeah, and five fucking years ago you were divorced.
Doctor Mother: So what are you saying? When you get divorced you turn in your library card? You get a new license? You stop being Jewish?
Alathon on August 6, 2013 at 16:52 said:
If they really do want to establish a new world order, having a strike force of powerful, monstrous parahumans on tap would surely strengthen their hand. The nine are ideal in a way.. they’re already trained to fight, to kill, they like it, and nobody on earth cares how anyone treats them.
Jerden on August 6, 2013 at 18:21 said:
Controlling them is the only problem. I think they may be waiting for Jack to die, as he controlls all the goddamn psychopaths and so could ruin a Slaughterhouse takeover even if Bonesaw betrays him.
visler on August 6, 2013 at 00:33 said:
You have no pity do you Wildbow. 😦
-Squivler
Damali on August 6, 2013 at 00:34 said:
Wow. Wtf
Thank you, Timothy, for the donation. 😀
Tom_D on August 6, 2013 at 00:37 said:
Ouch, Theo. Hope you make it through. You’ve had a hard row to hoe.
I wonder if freezing Scion was already the trigger. Without him they won’t be able to fight the endbringer effectively and it might spell the end of the world in a way even if everything else goes well.
Dinah apparently has gotten better in using her powers.
How did Defiant end up building this to quickly and why did he build a giant robot when his specialisation is integration and microtizing stuff? How did weaver help with that? Some sort of control that makes the pocket dimension go faster in time compared to the rest of the world?
I can’t wait for part B.
He didn’t build, he borrowed. See the last chapter.
He didn’t build that 🙂
Aaaaand ninja’d by the author.
If he had 4 more giant mecha, they could all form a complete mecha easily capable of defeating the 9. Problem is, if that one TV show tried to sue, he wouldn’t have a leg to stand on.
You forget that the manikin clones probably can already do that. Team! Lets form Slaughtertron!
En on August 6, 2013 at 10:50 said:
he didn’t build it, it’s accord’s second trigger event form
He rapid-grew clones of the original tinkers to help him 🙂
Philippe Saner on August 6, 2013 at 00:46 said:
Is this it for Scion?
I doubt it, personally. Scion’s power is godlike, and his narrative is still ongoing. There’s been no real build-up to him being taken down. And we still don’t know what his deal is, so…
I predict that either Scion will escape or he’ll do something story-relevant from inside the well. Maybe we’ll see an interlude from a trapped Scion’s perspective.
Regardless, pretty sure we haven’t seen the last of the guy.
There was actually, jack mentioned it as one of his end of the world kick start plans.
I knew about that. But having someone say “let’s do it” one chapter earlier isn’t much in the way of foreshadowing.
Remember Gray Boy said that people eventually work through all their issues? Maybe being stuck in the loop drives Scion SANE? And maybe that won’t be a good thing. Scion is definitly at the world ender level.
Or maybe the well blocks the constant screaming in his ears of all the world’s problems, and he is enjoying a break.
So this chapter answered a question I had after the last one: if someone was locked in a loop by Greyboy while, for example, firing a gun, what would happen? Would they just run out of bullets? Would the bullets return to the magazine and undo any damage done? Or would they return to the magazine but NOT undo any damage they caused?
It looks like I was wrong on all of my guesses, and the bullets would splat against the edge of the time-bubble (or just vanish).
Given how Scion spends a lot of his on-screen time floating in place in midair, it might be premature to assume that he is unable to break free!(Though for the narrative it makes sense.)
Great chapter.
DvorakQ on August 6, 2013 at 01:14 said:
Damn this arc was awesome. Thanks for your hard work Wildbow 🙂
acediamonds on August 6, 2013 at 01:18 said:
Agreed. Makes me certain that this timeskip was a really great idea.
Oh the arc is awesome it’s just that we’re sad we missed a few other awesome moments. More of Weaver’s war on crime, new Endbringer fights, and the whole war on china.
Nakigara on August 6, 2013 at 01:23 said:
Maybe we’ll get lucky, and, with Jack and Gray Boy on the other side of the country, Riley can make her move.
Unmaker on August 6, 2013 at 01:24 said:
What the heck is Taylor’s solution that allows Defiant to have more time … or more thinking power in the allotted time (Wildbow you tease – it is becoming clear you enjoy doing this)? Possibilities:
—A fast Dragon reincarnation. Unlikely – Weaver doesn’t know enough about Dragon to work that.
—Compressed time. Unlikely – Dispatch isn’t here; time-loopers aren’t here, e.g. Perdition.
—Super thinking speed. Unlikely – power transfer from a Chuckles?
—Transferred memories (Toybox member Cranial). More likely, but how the heck can he know which memories are which? I would rather chop off a finger than play with mental stuff Bonesaw had access to – safer in the long run.
—Compressed time, part two. Unlikely and an ugly, ugly possibility if at least one of the babies is a Gray Boy with active powers. Step into the kid’s area of affect. As long as he hauls the kid around, he can continue to work. When he wants out of the loop, kill the kid. Rinse and repeat for as many Gray Boy babies exist. However, this doesn’t give him more time, it just resets him regularly, unless Gray Boy’s power is different when used in the area around his body.
—Super thinking speed, part two. Unlikely, and very ugly again. Similar to the above, Chuckles has to be able to take people into his area of effect; otherwise, the acceleration would have killed Cherish and Screamer when Chuckles tried to rescue them in an earlier encounter. Pick a Chuckles baby, abuse him until his power activates, and hope like hell he takes you with him into super speed. If the baby dies, rinse and repeat.
—Neural net (literally). Ridiculously unlikely. There are all these bodies around, too bad someone like Bonesaw isn’t around to get them started again and link the brains.
—(from Loki-L) Altered time in the pocket dimension. Very unlikely – Defiant would know of that before Weaver.
Jesus, if Grey Boy is strong enough to trap Scion with his power then it has to work against Endbringers.
That is an intriguing idea. No bets on what happens if an Endbringer core contacts the power, though. Either effect could arguably collapse the other one.
But an Endbringer’s core is contained within non-core materials. The core might not be impacted but the rest of the body would be. If I’m reading it right.
I agree with FarmerBob. Endbringer cores don’t do much except grow Endbringers. If the thing they grow is time looped there’s not much they can do about it.
Assuming that counts as an endbringer defeat, I’d hate to see what powers the next endbringer has in response, though…
I have a feeling that his power might be limited by physical space. As in I doubt he can interfere with an entire room. I’m guessing the space limit is about the size of a car and doesn’t work if biological matter isn’t fully encapsulated by the loop.
Harbinger was indeed a nasty customer when he was young. Still not sure how they survived a five story drop. Predicting the future is one thing, but he still has a human body. Unless Bonesaw did a few upgrades to make him better.
Kaiser is a cat person. Figures.
Cauldron lied about Contessa being blocked by Scion. The question is why did they lie and what is their plan? My guess is that Scion is an enemy of Cauldron. He won’t attack their public heroes because they help against the Endbringers but he might have reached the same conclusion Dragon did if he showed a disgusted face at Eidolon. So the Number man and Contessa can’t show up in front of him because he will simply kill them. I don’t think this thing with Scion will work or last. Jack is a catalyst for the end of the world, but he himself doesn’t end it. It’s possible Grey boy does it but I don’t buy that. There is still too much we don’t know about Cauldron and there is a reason they still haven’t taken control of the 9 yet. Especially because while stopping Scion pretty much dooms the world, it still won’t end right away. It will still take a few decades before the Endbringers destroy everything and the End of the world is supposed to happen today not later on.
I would have thought Kaiser preferred a German Shepherd.
No, I’m allergic to cats. They have also NEVER liked me. I’ve been scratched/attacked pretty bad when I was little by one for no god damn reason. They’re not all bad, it’s just that I have bad luck with them and they aren’t loyal like a dog is. They also eat your eyes when you die.
They’ve always been fine with me. I think we bond over our mutual love of killing things and licking ourselves.
Well they are vicious. I remember reading somewhere that several species are endangered because they just go around killing, and torturing for no reason. There is a reason that a evil mastermind sits stroking a cat. I am honestly curious, what would you name your evil little furball?
I just found this and figured you’d like it.
youtube.com/watch?v=yogEyYtiRBY
And if you must know, the Siamese-looking one was named Cassandra, the fraidy cat was named Demeter, and the outgoing, curious one was named Tugger.
They were viciously murdered by a dog, except Demeter, which than ran away.
Yep, three kittens, good way to take care of a bunch of rats starting to infest the place, but the asshole with the dog that killed cats didn’t want to chain her up or put her in a fenced in area or anything. The cats were killed by the dog as a result, and the rats then chewed enough wires in his boat to strand him way out in the water with no flares and a wet cellphone he dropped in the water earlier that day.
Said person never learned their lesson. There’s a reason some people should just be killed and done with.
Where the hell can I get the stuff the makers of this video were on when they made this? You made me all depressed with a kitten story. Reminds me of a commenter who worked in a vet’s office and told a horrifying story that even freaked out Wildbow. I think it was around a bitch heavy chapter.
To quote Christopher Titus: “Do what Jesus would do, cowboy up.”
Sometimes you just have to look at your favorite cat’s splayed intestines, dig it a grave, and then go read a story where people are tortured forever and a baby gets shot. Nah, don’t worry, it wasn’t recent when that all happened.
The world can be mean. Sometimes, you can make mean funny, because the mean isn’t going away, and people don’t always deserve to be stomped on by every bit of entertainment out there.
Also, I like throwing videos at people that elicit that response, though. I would suggest Frontier Psychiatrist by The Avalanches and I Fink U Freeky by Die Antwoord.
But don’t worry. I’m not just saying that because people may think that because my stuff is stupid that I lack depth, that I’m not some tortured, brooding soul.
That way, people can walk away going “That guy was really deep.” and “Yeah, I noticed that. Really deep, eh?” “Shit yeah.”
But, hey, I can have a dark side if you want me to. youtube.com/watch?v=3xQmJ_vxHB4
I can have a dark siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide. I can develop my brooding potential if pain’s what you want in an act. Pain I can do. I can have a dark side too. I can have dark siiiide…Yippy!
Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go imagine Jack Slash in a kilt farting lightning bolts from his arse. You want to know why they call it a kilt? Because they started out as pants, but he got tired of them being so boring and kilt them.
Right Hand. For the Right Hand Cat on TVtropes.
Too bad Skitter never had a giant spider or bug to pet for her “throne” room. There is also a giant crab somewhere that would also have worked out perfectly.
Heh-heh. Cats are the shit. I really connect with cats. Psychotic, narsiccistic… No concept of “not mine,” a love of raw meat, sleep, killing, fighting, attacking everybody… Switching between happy, aggressive… Ah. Love ’em. They’re like mini-me-s!
-Zeta & Khan.
Rika Covenant on August 6, 2013 at 11:47 said:
http://poinsettcounty.kait8.com/news/news/240253-dog-eats-paralyzed-mans-testicle
It seems I’m outnumbered by Cat lovers.
No worries. Cats are good. I prefer mine with either mesquite BBQ or sweet and sour sauce.
You’ll always have PZ Meyers, TheAnt. He prefers squid.
Kaiser liking cats made him far more terrifying then an avarage dog person.
He does not want brainless stormtroopers, he liked selfthinking minions.
I’m more of a cat person myself. Dogs require too much attention and I don’t have the patience to really deal with them. That said, A cat. Maybe two. After that it’s too many to deal with. And yes, cats are horrifyingly efficient killing machines. What do you expect, they don’t gang up on their prey like dogs have to.
As a cat person myself i know we are far more deadly then the doglovers 😉
And to add to that. Bitch would be far more psyco and deadlier as a cat master.
Beware of “Queen” (That is the selfgoogled term for a female cat)
Hmm, and I just imagined tattletale. Independent, knows she’s the smartest one there is, is superior to her canine housemate and I would not be surprised if one day she has a video feed, swing round to face the viewscreen and is stroking a damned Persian Moggy whilst smirking.
Riding into battle on Cringer.
Kytin on August 7, 2013 at 22:54 said:
The ability to herd cats? Now there’s a superpower!
I believe the Harbinger’s survived the falls simply by knowing how to break it, slow it down. Remember, their power isn’t only seeing the future. They see everything in terms of numbers. They know the exact spot and strength to use to split a skull with a pen, they can make the perfect shot by knowing exactly what motion the bullet will make at that precise distance, etc.
I understand that but there is a limit to what the human body is capable of so he might also be a breaker/brute of some kind and just never told anybody. A person can survive dropping out of an airplane and survive apparently but they’ll be in full body cast. That energy has to go somewhere so he should have broken a bone at least.
It’s a much shorter fall than an airplane. They had their cloaks and such, as well as falling rubble, and chances are they know the famous “Way Wrestlers Fall” aka “land with as much surface area as possible and hope you don’t break something”.
Maybe they formed a sort of ring where their heads rested on another’s belly as they landed to prevent a little bit of concussive psychiatry.
With sufficient luck, people have survived falls from airplanes and walked away from it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Alkemade
Harbingers apparently are so in control of their own bodies that they wouldn’t need luck to survive a simple 50 foot drop with no injury.
IIRC cats are more likely to survive a five story fall than a three story one as they have more time to spin and stretch and stuff. Also the S9+ are cheats.
Lobo on August 8, 2013 at 00:36 said:
I’ve seen videos of people survive jumps of several stories without injury by rolling properly. There’s some crazy Russian free runners out there. Imagine doing that with perfect physical control.
It’s Contessa. Obviously, her power told her that helping Scion or stopping the Nine right now wasn’t going to lead to victory.
Tacos, tacos are the path to victory. That and catching reruns of Roseanne.
Sucks to be you guys!
Ally on August 7, 2013 at 22:18 said:
Cauldron didn’t necessarily lie about Contessa being blocked by Scion – I’d expect she is. What they said was that Scion was blocking their precog /and hence they couldn’t help./
Scion is blocking their -clairvoyant-. Not precog.
Well, precog too.
Not a good one as far as the killcount goes, but I figured I’d update a few puns y’all all have problems with:
Mannequins poisoned by anti-plastic: 3
Cherishes put on a bus: 9
Siberians imprisoned in Kolyma: 8
Shatterbirds eaten by gluecats: 0
Crawlers turned into crullers: 2
Burnscars put on ice: 0
Hatchet Faces at the bottom of Camp Crystal Lake: 2
Murder Rats scared by the munster: 3
Kings left a-hunk, a-hunk of burning flesh: 1
Screamers punched in the uvula: 3
Harbingers assuming a direct dirtnap: 0
Breeds inbred: 3
Crimsons eaten by a big bad wolf: 1
Nyxes zeroed out: 3
Psychosomas all in their head: 3
Damsels of Distress in another castle: 0
Winters ended by global warming: 1
Chuckles’s hit in the faces with pies: 0
Hookwolves arrested for hooking: 0
Skinslips given a pinkslip on life: 0
Night Hags defeated by the Day Man: 4
Nice Guys friendzoned: 2
Miasmas kissin’ my ass, ma: 3
Bonus Round:
Snowmenn lost their magic hats: 1
Nighty Nights bitten by bed bugs: 0
Laughjobs had it handed to them: 0
Tyrants hiding in spiderholes: 1
Spawners violated: 0
Bonesaws boned: 0
Grey Boys whited out: 0
Jacks hammered: 0
Nilbogs slain by a +1 Sword of Asskickery: 0
Saints had his computer shined up real nice, turned sideways, and shoved straight up his candy ass, stomped a mudhole in and walked dry, tombstone piledriven straight to hell, had a catheter repeatedly stuck in and pulled out, given an orange juice enema, fed high protein cupcakes with laxative cream on top, beaten in the head with a shoe, recircumcised, had his nipples scraped off with sandpaper, dragged through mud, hit with carrots, had a rabid badger tossed in his pants, tarred, feathered, drawn, quartered, had his tongue ripped out, shot, and then had his tongue shot, and trimmed that scraggly beard: 0
Irregular on August 6, 2013 at 01:50 said:
Oh god, now I’m imagining Jack Slash as played by Clancy Brown.
The best Kurgan since the Kurgan.
Heeeeeeeere we are! Born to be kings, we’re the princes of the universe. Here we belong! Fighting to survive in a war with the darkest power.
The Endbringers creator shows up and decapitates Jack.”
“There can be only one… Big Bad.”
Heh. I made a comment a few chapters back about Jack killing original Cherish and becoming Butcher XVI. Given that he’s starting to get pushed back and make serious mistakes, he might as well compensate with raw power by going Highlander on her.
Only a Butcher is fit to lead the Slaughterhouse, after all.
I don’t know that he would find Cherish where he left her. I seem to recall something about her new Mannequin provided apartment being snagged by a hook and being drug out to sea. I’m just not sure if that was done in story or if it was someones wishful thinking in the looney bin… errrr… comments section.
Interlude 21 – search for Butcher.
(Wow, this comment doesn’t want to post!)
Ahhh, Thank you.
I knew I wasn’t crazy…crazy…craz*SLAP*
Whew. Well, alright. Looks like he can’t get at it without somebody like Scion having a go at it.
And I’m hope Butcher XVI Scion’s just crazy talk. If it happens, those 15 voices might be able to influence him into pulling a Butcher III. And that’d be pretty much impossible for anything less than an Endbringer to beat.
And in our occasional hobby of scoring the chapters, I have a song for Theo on this one. A bit overused though.
youtube.com/watch?v=P1QUZzeZoPQ
This ain’t no place for no hero.
Don’t always like the complete song, but good both here and in the opening of Borderlands 2
Damnit, now I can weaver with insects attacking Jack from on high to the tune of well this lot but just imagine insects instead of hawkmen:
Indigo on August 6, 2013 at 01:50 said:
Well that just happened. Things are either going to go very bad or very well soon and my money is on it being very,very bad.
Generally a safe bet in the Wormverse.
Oh well, at least it can’t get any worse. (hehehehehe)
Simurgh: Sup, Jack? Want a hand?
And now, brainstorm how Golem gets out of this:
—Second trigger event. That would take down all parahumans, including Jack, in the vicinity. Enough increased power and speed in his main powers might swing the fight.
—Second trigger event, part two. He overcomes the Manton Effect and can affect flesh. Jack needs an extra pair of hands … or three. Actually, what Jack really needs is a foot up the ass.
—Second trigger event, part three. Golem can now affect gasses. When the air in your lungs sprouts a fist, you are in trouble.
—Second trigger event, part four. Golem can now affect forces. He can reach through time loops, freeing Scion.
—Bypass the Manton Effect. Can Golem affect Hookwolf when Hookwolf is all metal? This gets really fun when you realize that Golem’s power is not mass-conserving. He could bulk Hookwolf up to ridiculous levels, maybe beyond what Hookwolf can work with.
—Bypass the Manton Effect, part two. Can Golem affect Jack’s non-organic implants (not my original thought, others have speculated on this).
—Deus ex Weaver. Weaver did come down from attempting to divert Scion. (Looks like Gray Boy can affect things at range.)
—Deus ex Other Allies. Others come to Golem’s aid.
—New use of powers. Can Golem affect Nyx’s gas? It can mimic a solid. Being able to turn it against them would be fun. Unfortunately, several members arrayed against him are immune (Manton, Crawler, Hookwolf (maybe), Jack may have immunity courtesy of Bonesaw).
—New use of powers, part two. Does Golem have something approximating Manton’s armor and can he affect it (another non-original thought)? Jack would just let the affected Mantons die, but it might be a distraction.
Forgot an obvious one, although again it is very unlikely.
—Get Jack talking. Jack really needs to read the evil overlord list about monologing (number 6).
When you have Little Miss Frankestein making you functionally unkillable and an army of monsters at your call, I guess you can ignore the finer points of the list.
No, you should not ….
Well, he fails “40.I will be neither chivalrous nor sporting. If I have an unstoppable superweapon, I will use it as early and as often as possible instead of keeping it in reserve.” because of how little he’s used Gray Boy and his gradual escalation.
He also breaks “47.If I learn that a callow youth has begun a quest to destroy me, I will slay him while he is still a callow youth instead of waiting for him to mature.”
and “92.If I ever talk to the hero on the phone, I will not taunt him. Instead I will say this his dogged perseverance has given me new insight on the futility of my evil ways and that if he leaves me alone for a few months of quiet contemplation I will likely return to the path of righteousness. (Heroes are incredibly gullible in this regard.)” though that one is a bit out of place in the Wormverse.
Fellwenner on August 6, 2013 at 04:21 said:
This is Weaver’s story. I both hope and expect for her to save the day.
Well, she didn’t against the Slaughterhouse Nine in Brockton Bay, Leviathan, Behemoth, Bakuda, the Merchants, Empire 88 outside of maybe the rump of Fenir’s Chosen, Heartbreaker, or…
The only time I can think of her actually saving the day against a really major threat was Echidna. Sure, she contributes, fights, coordinates, and really helps, but the Slaughterhouse Nine survived with few casualties she was responsible for, Scion handled the Endbringers, the Nine handled Empire 88 and the Merchants of Death, Imp beat Heartbreaker…
Well, there’s Coil and Alexandria. That was pretty cool on her part.
I’d say she contributes quite a bit despite the lack of firepower she brings to the table. And despite all of the other shit going on, this is sort of a culmination and I hope she’s at the center of the resolution.
Maybe not saved the day, but she did to damnedest to. Considering who she is and what she was fighting, I think it’s safe to say she kicked ass without actually sending Leviathan and the Nine running from the hills singlehandedly.
And Tagg, can’t forget him.
Now your just making me nostalgic.
Can’t Taylor, I dunno, kill one more reactionary jackboot? Just a little one? There’s got to be someone at the Chicago HQ that no-one would miss.
The Sandman on August 6, 2013 at 02:13 said:
I wonder how nasty the effects of Scion busting out of Gray Boy’s power will be.
Probably have to be some consequences from smashing open a looped section of space-time.
Find it interesting that nobody knows that Harbinger became the Number Man. Although I guess that’s one of the many things that would have gotten Contessa sent out to kill someone for knowing.
I’d wonder if there might be a solution to the “Gray Boy locks people in a never-ending recursion of time thing”, albeit a somewhat unpleasant one (thanks to the necessary mind control), by taking a Hatchet Face next to a victim and turning his effect on.
And I really hope somebody jams a wedge into Jack’s little inferiority complex with respect to Gray Boy and starts prying that sucker wide open. I mean, when all’s said and done Gray Boy was the one who actually accomplished something more momentous than just murdering a lot of people and claiming that the blood spray was art. Jack, at this point, is boring. Passe. He has nothing new.
I suppose I just want to see Jack break, preferably before his self-congratulatory line of bullshit induces Smugnarok.
Heck, did you read my deconstruction of Jack in the last chapters comments?
This one?
Ok, remember when I said that I could think of capes more broken than Gray Boy? Well, I was wrong. Because no other cape we’ve seen have ever manage to use their power on the amazing golden man. Now, despite the tone of this series, I’m somewhat confident that Scion will manage to save himself. Still, even if that’s true, and not just desperate wishing on my part, even temporarily trapping Scion, DOES make your power horribly unfair. I’m sorry for the lack of respect Mr Boy, please don’t trap me in a loop of eternal pain.
Now, I’ve been more lenient, sort of, than other posters in regards to Cauldron, but this chapter really PISSED me. I’m not saying that Number Man has to reveal that he was Harbinger or explain every secret of his power, but a HINT, a fucking hint, just to not let them fight an enemy completely in the dark. I thought you wanted to help with this end of the world thing, huh Cauldron? Must have been wrong. Bravo, truly bravo.
And uhm Jack? I thought you killed King because you couldn’t live up to his expectation of being the next Gray Boy. You do realise your great triumph only happened because of him, yes? Still you did make me laugh about really wanting an enemy to not kill you just to prove he’s the better man (any guess on what movie with that situation Jack would have rally enjoyed?), so I guess you may have a career in comedy acts when this is all over. Still, that Jack+Hookwolf combo wasn’t bad. Who will seep down to save Golem?
*swoop down
Swooping is Bad. Everybody has forgotten about imp again, my guess is that she proceeds to stab Hookwolf in the eye to throw Jack off balance but not before tossing a Bakuda bomb Jack’s way.
Hrm, yes, imp carrying a piece of sheet steel and carefully propping it right behind Jack might do quite nicely. Especially if Golem can detect the presence of the steel even if Imp is carrying it.
In fact, I’m REALLY surprised that we haven’t seen imp carrying around a bunch of other tools besides simple knives. Think of the mischief she could cause with a squirtgun full of hydrochloric acid, or just a couple cans of mace. Or even a laser sniper rifle.
Imp with a knife is pretty nasty. Imp with an imagination would be downright scary.
Oh and just wanted to throw something in. I remember during a reread that one of Yamada’s patient, detained in the same center where Garrotte and Glory Girl are, is called Sadboy but his true name is Nicholas. He’s mentioned but we never see him.
A boy with superpowers called Nicholas. Rings any bells?
Possible son? We know from Jack’s comment he wasn’t a child originally so he might have fathered a child. I wonder what Garrotte and Glory Girl have been up to? Talking about obscure characters, I’m waiting for the hero mentioned in the Number Man Interlude. The dreaded hero, THE COCKATOO!
And his sidekick who wears azure boots, the Booby! There’s nothing like the team of Cockatoo and Booby.
Well we never got an Uber and Leet comedy interlude, so having a Cockatoo interlude might be hilarious depending on his personality.
I suspect he’s an old member of the Slaughterhouse Nine we’ll meet sometime this arc in clone form. Because why not?
And his arch-nemesis, the Cockatoo-blocker? >_>
ReallyNotAJAPH on February 5, 2014 at 16:18 said:
I think you mean the Clockatoo.
Guys, I think Sadboy actually might be the Gray Boy.
Quote from the cast page:
“Gray Boy (Status Unknown) – Once a member of the Nine, one of Jack’s first teammates. Has been referenced in passing several times, with a measure of awe or fear.”
Interlude 21:
“Jack,” Jacob said. He kicked King’s body again. “Fuck it. He always called me Jacob, practically purring. His little killer in training. As if I could match up to his Gray Boy. I want to be more than that. Get out from under his shadow.”
Unless I am missing something I am fairly sure I have looked at all the major references including Bonesaw’s in a few interludes. I don’t think they ever actually said he died.
We know that Bonesaw cloned people who didn’t die such as Harbinger.
I think Sadboy is the Gray Boy. He’s locked away in the Asylum having never died and never freed his victims.
So you think Gray Boy is blue?
I think it is quite likely.
A slightly more detailed search for every reference to the Gray Boy does provide absolutely no confirmation of his death. It just seems like too awesome and subtle a move not to come up. The name Nicholas. The very specific lack of any statements about his death. The codename “Sadboy” is quite reasonable for a semi-reformed Gray Boy.
I toyed with the idea that he grew up to be Eidolon before, though that never made a particularly large amount of sense.
Yeah, it does look as some obvious foreshadowing, in retrospect.
My only real problem with this theory is that one would think that the major players would be able to know it if a monochromatic boy was hiding in a psychiatric center. Both Cauldron and the Protectorate would probably like to put their hands on him.
I suspect they do know and like him exactly where he is. Given how the Nine have been treated he almost certainly had a kill order on him. In this theory he probably CAN’T die. They also might be trying to figure out how to reverse his power to prevent the infinite torture loops from lasting forever.
Under this interpretation he would absolutely have to be docile and probably repentant. The whole name of Sadboy indicates that he doesn’t exactly want to hurt people anymore and may be sad about it.
Or perhaps he got all repentant one day and decided to use his power on himself, locking himself into a continuous loop.
Don’t underestimate the capacity for blindness and stupidity in people.
“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.”
Well that ends badly for Theo. I ain’t gonna hold out hope for a last second rescue here either.
I suppose it’s too much to hope for that Jack will die sobbing and begging like the little bitch that he is? Or even a give a big no as something goes horribly wrong with his plans?
I think that’s exactly what’s going to happen. That arrogant facade has top crack sooner or later. Actually, i wouldn’t be surprised if Gray Boy turns on him and traps him in a loop of eternal pain.
There’s a chance of Hookwolf turning on Jack. Remember Theo is Kaiser’s son, and Hookwolf was a part of Empire 88 at one point. Theo might call in a family debt of some sort if he knows of any way that his family helped Hookwolf, and Hookwolf might honor it.
I believe Hookwolf mainly joined the S9 because if he didn’t, they would destroy the remnants of Empire 88 which he was trying to rebuild. I would not be surprised if he’s been planning on this moment for a long time, knowing that Jack is going to fight his ex-leader’s son at some point. Now that the fight has started, Jack might be distracted enough to be assassinated so Hookwolf can try to go back to rebuilding the Empire 88.
Of course, Jack might be ready for this, but I think a Hookwolf vs Jack fight would be a lot more even that others might believe if the other S9 members stay off Hookwolf and let Jack prove he deserves to win the fight.
Hookwolf joined the Nine because he’s still under the effect of the agnosia mist and is disoriented. There’s a scene where he sort of objects at Jack’s actions (he sees himself as the honourable warrior), Jack gives an explanation and Hookwolf comments that there are thing that don’t fit but he can’t say what exactly.
And Taylor should still be able to cure him, right?
Don’t be ridiculous. Panacea gave very clear instructions that Taylor should get drunk in a week or two to remove the cure-prions from her system. Are you seriously suggesting that Taylor would ignore such clear instructions?
Seriously, though, that’s a possibility. It wouldn’t be the first time that a plot element comes back many arcs later to dramatic effect.
That would involve kissing him, and I think it’s safe to say that Taylor won’t go for the hair metal skinhead shitkicker look.
It is definitely too much to hope for.
Jack Slash will die painlessly. Emma will kill him, having won the superpower lottery of a dangerous Cauldron dose. He will have just killed Bitch and beaten Taylor soundly. Taylor will then have to work on Emma’s team in the Protectorate.
I am being optimistic.
If Emma triggered back in the cafeteria my money stays on her becoming the cape known as ‘Raid.”
The Orkin Woman
Elias N Vasylenko on August 6, 2013 at 07:57 said:
What does everyone think to the idea that Clockblocker might be able to save people from Gray Boy? Freezing people whilst in the loop might break them free of it? Not sure how the loop interacts with other powers, though.
Worth a shot, I think.
Before this chapter I would have said it would have probably worked.But now Gray Boy has trapped Scion. Even if the effect is temporary and Scion frees himself in the next second, Gray Boy has still showed a power never well above everyone else. Up until now, Scion simply seemed immune to anyone else’s powers: precogs are shut down, Eidolon’s forcefield is shattered, Behemoth’s dynakinesis is no-selled…
Oh Jack you used to be such an artist, a rock star even. But now you’re just a spoiled kid with too many toys who throws something away if it doesn’t give you instant gratification.
Seriously, taking down Scion? Could you be any more obvious? You gonna start hauling nukes, because that’d be par for the course for your current creativity level.
You’re not gonna figure out that Weaver is your true nemesis until her boot in on your neck, are you?
imsomeone on August 6, 2013 at 08:52 said:
Meh, he could take her.
Yea right.
One could almost think that Jack is compensating for something, with that big claymore he’s got here 🙂 .
“Eh, I could take y…”
*Weaver cracks knuckles*
…oouu to lunch. Yeah! There’s a Tex mex place right over there. Why don’t we, y’know, sit down, get some beers, talk thing ou-OH GOD NOT THE FACE!”
Bah, Jack should be a man and take the punch. Sometimes you just have to get your ass beat by a woman, get right back up, and proceed to tear her life apart while destroying a city.
I know that’s what I would do if I hadn’t already done it.
Oh his ass is going to be beating by more than just her. They gonna really give him a pounding, because they know how he likes to be on top, so they’re gonna put him back on the bottom. He’ll take a few thousand hard ones to the face, then Chevalier’s gonna stick him with his cannon and blow his load all over Jack’s insides.
Clearly, he needs to get locked in a time loop by Gray Boy until he works out his issues and starts being effective again.
Yog on August 6, 2013 at 09:22 said:
You know, Scion being trapped… may not be a bad thing. He’s autistic or effectively so due to sensory overload, right? Capable of only simplest action and without any real initiative of his own. And now he’s tapped inside an isolated area, with a constant sensory input, or perhaps with no (relative to what he normally experiences) sensory input at all. Just a thing to reorient himself for the first time after he got his trigger event.
Or I may be completely wrong.
I frankly doubt Scion had a trigger event, if only because I doubt he was ever human to start with. I think he’s connected more with the Endbringers/passengers/both than to the parahumans.
Not the point. The point is, that from all indications, he’s suffering form massive constant sensory overload. Being trapped like this may help him get his bearings / regain his mind.
Or he gets even worse because not only does he get sensory overload but he’s overloaded by the same information again and again and again. For ever.
I would think that the constant signal would be easier to cope with then a changing one.
Grey Boy’s power doesn’t prevent new signals from being heard, it just repeats the physical function and state of the body. Remember how he has conversations with people while they are under the effect of his power?
Scion is probably uninjured in the loop, since Grey Boy hit him in the air, which means he’s not in constant pain.
Which in turn means we might actually see a Scion interlude where people can talk to him, and if he’s not able to run off, maybe he will talk back.
> I frankly doubt Scion had a trigger event, if only because I doubt he was ever human to start with
You mean like AIs cannot have trigger events because they’re not human? 😛
MIght be he’s not trapped, but rather has no incentive to move. Not input -> no output.
But Scion interlude will come, and I doubt it’ll be all him in his cell for 10k words,
It’s an interesting idea, nevertheless. Scion finally displaying his sentience after thousands of years of acclimating to the world.
I wonder what his first real words would be…
“Holy shit, I can fly!”
“Was there something I was just doing? Naaahh, hey what’s that awesome smell?”
“It’s called Lasagne? Maybe I should try some.”
Stevebot-7 on August 6, 2013 at 09:28 said:
Oh, Wildbow…the things you make me think.
Hopefully soon I’ll get my little bit of writing polished up, and then I can post it and we can be best friends until everyone realises you’re a better writer than I.
sarah penguin on August 6, 2013 at 10:07 said:
That was pretty nifty of an interlude! 🙂
Behold the ACCORDBOT! Its rage at being asymmetric fuels his power!
There’s a slight time discrepancy here… it could be explained with time differentials in the pocket dimension.
It might be difficult to bring the giant robot up to speed. If Defiant got enough time, maybe he managed to use, appropriate, or learn about something else. (i.e.: girfriend creation chamber)
He has to check out the stuff anyway to kill the clones anyway. Might as well clone Aster and get Dragon’s memories inside her.
And Scion’s actual power is finally revealed too! He is a superpassenger that can move at will between hosts.
The closest one when the old self was trapped is Taylor.
Epileptic trees, if I’m reading it correctly.
Although, that said, if you were looking for a cape to imbue with Scion’s powers, Butcher-style, it would be hard to find a better one. She has a demonstrated ability to drink a firehose of information in combat situations and use it to good effect — I think Scion-senses would synergize well.
> Epileptic trees, if I’m reading it correctly.
I prefer “I just get those headaches trees”, but yeah, pretty much a flight of fantasy.
And ACCORDBOTS!
Oh, Dragon/Aster is so wrong…and so right. I suppose the question would be if being humanized would impair(no more superspeed thought processing) Dragon or free her(no more AI shackles).
Bonesaw/Riley could definitely do it. If I’m remembering correctly the girl who got kidnapped is one and the old Bonesaw is the other. Can’t quite remember if the kidnapped girl is the new Riley or the new Bonesaw. Can’t wait for Riley to make an appearance. Especially if Scion is still in the greyzone and she has time to ponder him.
I kind of like the idea that Scion is incomplete, like maybe his other half somewhere else.
Veloren on August 6, 2013 at 19:04 said:
Be careful with your use of ‘/’ marks. Please. For the sad remaining shreds of sanity that I still possess.
I remember one day I was on the Worm IRC channel and tried to develop a theory by which I could measure the crackiness of crackships.
I believe I gave up after five or so iterations were invalidated by crackships they couldn’t account for. What made it especially disturbing was that none of the refutations were intentional — no version of my model made it onto the channel that hadn’t already been disproved by people randomly conversing.
How about by how much it makes you think about it?
A crackship like Taylor/Rachel provokes consideration of its evidence.
A crackship like Grue/Atlas is the kind of thing you never want to think about, for a random example plucked from the seething insanity that is my mind’s random pairing generator.
I don’t think that really works — I’m pretty sure I put at least as much thought into Danny/Piggot as I have into Theo/Taylor, and the former is significantly crackier than the latter.
Would be interested to see your formula. Maybe it just needs a fresh pair of eyes?
packbat on July 31, 2014 at 00:57 said:
I don’t even know if I could recreate it, now – I think the last refinement I remember was a two-dimensional system of measurement. Roughly, I hypothesized that a ship is more cracktastic if it either:
1. Involves characters separated by greater canonical distance – from a minimum of “they know each other well in-universe” through “they live in the same universe and never met” to “they do not occupy the same continuity”. (By this metric, the ship between Taylor and Theo dropped measurably in crack when they actually met, and the ship between Regent and Imp got a lot more crack when Regent died.)
2. Involves personalities less well suited to work together – from a minimum of “they get along like a house afire” to “they would almost certainly set each other on fire”. (Thus, Bitch/Skitter is a lot more plausible than Bitch/Tattletale, because Bitch does not like being subjected to the crazy verbal manipulations of people like Tattletale, and Skitter is much more willing to ditch the words and just … be there.)
I suspect this system was flawed in that it did not account for the necessarily paradoxical nature of a good crackship: to be truly excellent, there must be some criteria which justify the ship despite the way it is obviously demented. Danny and Piggot are actually similar in a number of ways – focused, self-controlled in spite of their fiery natures, competent leaders, &c. – but the match is pretty clearly ludicrous in ways that I am too brain-dead right now to enunciate. It’s probably flawed in other, important ways, too, but like I said: brain-dead.
So Scion interlude tomorrow? Or Scion!Weaver … or Scion/Weaver 😀
You’re messin with my miiiind, man!
Staaaaaahp
katrikah on August 6, 2013 at 11:09 said:
Augh, holy shit, this chapter was… excellent. In a way I have yet to process. Poor Theo.
In other news, I found a song for Mannequin. Everything You Ever from Dr. Horrible’s Sing-Along Blog works great from him, although you need to change the implications of some of the lines.
Okay one little thing that bugs me, no pun intended. Is it just me or are there way to many people who can counter or shutdown Taylor’s power? It’s like every member of the Slaughterhouse is made of Kryptonite!
Not every, but I see what you mean — I feel like Wildbow is overestimating the power of combat precognition versus the swarms.
There is also the line from ‘Big Guy and Rusty the Boy Robot’ I love. “Sure you know it’s coming. You’re psychic. But there’s not a sweet thing you can do about it.’ That is to say there is simply no way to defend with the options avaliable to you, or you opponent is moving so fast that you cannot possibly react in time to utilize your predictions. An example of the latter was the fight between Mr. X, armed with Odin’s battle spear, and Quicksilver armed with a lead pipe. Mr. X has a form of Telepathy that grants him combat claryvoiance. It didn’t help him at all. Quicksilver moved so fast that by the time Mr. X began to move to block the attack at his elbow, Quicksilver was breaking his knee. If Jack could throw out enough attacks that Numbers Man wasn’t sure he could win, Taylor should be able to attack from so many vectors as to make a complete curbstomp out of it.
To be fair, Mr X was always pretty lame. The fight with Quicksilver wan’t the first time his clairvoyance was useless. But, yeah, I don’t really buy the swarm parry. Number Man himself comments that he’s better at long range than melee.
Better at long range doesn’t mean crappy at melee. Also, Harbinger’s combat precog is levels better than Mr. X’s, and he isn’t facing against somebody who easily breaks multi-mach speeds.
True, but Harbinger is afraid of fighting Jack because he can be attack from multiple directions. This fear of multiple attacks it’s what brings him to close the fight with the Cauldron’s escapee with a Break them by Talking speech. YOu’d think that an attack from a massive swarm of bugs is the perfect multiside attack.
Yeah, it’s hard to dodge a giant bug swarm. I still say Contessa said what she said and retreated during the Behemoth fight because that was the only way for her to come out ahead. Her power saw that a direct fight with Weaver would end in a loss, so it showed her what steps to take so she didn’t have to fight her. A human body has limits do what it can do in terms of how fast it can move. It’s an easy fix though. All wildbow has to do is add in a line saying he is a brute, a mover 1 with added flexibility, or that Bonesaw did some work on his bones/muscle fibers.
The difference is how they defend against those attacks. Those clothes would not defend against knives or that one escapee’s multi-directional strike.
Bugs, however, are a different story. Taylor doesn’t have any bugs that can simply pierce right through those clothes. So, the Harbingers have an easier time of things. They just need the optimal way to deflect as many bugs as they can with every movement.
After all, the bugs are not tiny blades. They can’t hurt the clones just by coming into contact, they need to land and start attacking.
That said, the clothes are the key. If they didn’t have that specific gear, the Harbingers wouldn’t be able to enact that particular strategy flawlessly.
It’s not so much that the S9 is full of people with the ability to counter Taylor, as that Taylor’s power is actually pretty weak offensively to begin with. She swarms people with insects. Lots of capes are tough enough to weather that, or make things inhospitable for bugs by producing heat, cold, gas, etc. etc. Even normal humans can weather it for a bit, especially if they keep moving and dodging so it’s hard for the insects to get a solid lock.
A big difference between this fight and the one vs Contessa is that they fought Contessa underground in an enclosed space where Taylor’s swarm would’ve been able to corner her. Harbinger has a lot more room for evasive manoeuvres.
Taylor beat Alexandria because she caught her off guard, in a moment when she thought she had the upper hand and that Taylor was bugless. An on-guard Alexandria wouldnt have stayed still long enough for Taylor’s patented “drown them in bugs” technique to work.
Harbinger’s power gives him the intel he needs on the swarm to avoid the worst of it. I suspect he’s still getting bit, but not enough to incapacitate.
Another interesting thing. Did Jack manage to find and take Theo’s “keystone”? I don’t think so. Despite everything Theo didn’t break mentally. It reminds me of Commisioner Gordon in the Killing Joke. Joker couldn’t give him a bad enough day.
I think most people don’t have keystones, not even in Worm — certainly not in the Purity/Aster or Panacea/Glory Girl sense.
That said, while I’ve never read The Killing Joke, I think the analogy to Commissioner Gordon might be quite apt — personality-wise, Golem is much like the Gordon to Weaver’s Batman.
Classic batman story, and the ending joke was hilariously relevant to both of them. I don’t know about Theo not breaking. It usually doesn’t really hit you until you’re alone and think about things. He has a goal and object of revenge, so I think even he doesn’t realize how badly he is hurt until afterward.
Great story indeed. Everyone should read it. The final panel with Batman and the Joker laughing like madmen under the rain while the police sirens blare always sends shivers down my spine.
Hey, ix-nay on the poilers-say.
But yes, the end is awesome.
I have a copy of it. The spine’s a little damage though.
Really? I have the coffee table edition.
Ah… the Barbara Gordon edtiion.
lindzburdn on August 6, 2013 at 16:55 said:
OH GOSH, that cliffhanger! Y’know, at first, I wasn’t sure how I felt about Theo. But now, I’m super attached, and I really hope he makes it outta this one.
You said it. Theo’s doomed now.
“Don’t get attached.”
Yeah. Like, every time I get attached to a pairing it gets shot down. I try to avoid it, but nooo, I just had to start liking Finn/Flame Princess. Ah sorry, getting back on topic, I’m gonna hafta assume Theo is dead. Unless Jack wanted to leave him all sliced up and in pain to fuck with the others and be a bastard.
” Unless Jack wanted to leave him all sliced up and in pain to fuck with the others and be a bastard.”
You may have just answered yourself.
And yes, I’d say that based on the previous chapter, Aster/Anyone has indeed been shot down.
Ah, I see now. Dinah’s “Cut ties” was actually advice for the comments section. … That actually makes entirely too much sense. Cool parallel.
Ah, now it becomes clear. Dinah’s “Cut ties” was intended for the readers as much as it was for Taylor; maybe more. And we failed, so now we will be hurt.
I think that, beyond the whole “massacre artist” thing they have going on, the greatest wrong Jack (and King) did to their world was depriving it of some of the mightiest anti-Endbringer weapons we could ever have seen. Imagine Jack and Chevalier working together. Imagine Jack and Foil working together. Imagine Panacea extending Siberian’s operational range relay-bug style so ‘she’ can fight the Endbringer safely. Imagine Bonesaw using the bodies of all the dead capes to make necrotech Voltrons.
Glassware on August 6, 2013 at 19:44 said:
Well, let’s be fair, Siberian was bugnuts crazy even before Jack found him, and he actually made Bonesaw.
Imagine Grey Boy trapping the Endbringers in a perpetual loop.
So when does Weaver discover that she can control the microbes and bacteria that live inside all humans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_microbiome
Look at the pretty dancing Harbingers. How about a little stroke?
She specifically can’t do anything too small. It’s what prevents her from doing stuff like sense people based on their microbiology.
Just because she can’t get a response back from them doesn’t necessarily mean she can’t send them instructions. I’d be surprised if she hasn’t sat in front of a few beakers and petri dishes, trying to figure out how to make microbiology move opposite gravity, towards an electrical source. That’s all one would need to do, is just have all the microbiology in the body start moving against gravity, towards the site of greatest electrical activity.
I do not remember her ever trying to deal with microbiology though. I do remember her controlling a crustacean once.
It’s mind control, not telekinetic control. Microbes don’t have a brain for her to influence, they pretty much just run on their DNA and basic responses to their environment. She can’t move them around because they can’t move themselves around anywhere.
Think of it this way – she needs a basic mind to control, like an insects simplistic speck of tissue, but bacteria don’t have any mind at all.
Tapeworms and other parasites, on the other hand… Hmm… That would be disgusting but effective. Maybe.
If nothing else sensing them means she would know exactly where someone is at all times. Making it impossible to get the drop on her. But with Bonesaw that won’t be a possibility for the Slaughterhouse.
Heartworms fall within her penumbra — Buzz 7.2.
I guess that pretty much confirms power over tapeworms.
I’m thinking that Taylor controlling only bugs doesn’t come from a hard coded rule with her passenger, and more of a psychological imprint from the circumstances of her trigger event.
If Sophia had gone off more psycho than usual and filled the locker with rats we’d have gotten Scurry, and if she had been a complete weirdo and used birds we’d get Flutter.
THE BIRDS! THE BIIIIRDS!
Hitchcock saw it coming.
Taylor’s already got THE PAAAAAIIIN! going on.
Kojima saw that coming.
There is serous evidence for that. One of Taylor’s Echidna clones was controlling rats, wasn’t she?
Yeah, it was even called Scurry. Part of me hopes she’s survived, and that Echidna’s psychological imprinting brainwashing thingie she did to her clones wore off after her death.
It’d be interesting if the Protectorate got that kind of second chance, to learn from their handling of Skitter to do better for the clone.
Actually, that’s exactly what it means. Taylor’s power is to sense, understand and command bugs. It’s a package deal. We have had zero indication that there are some types of bugs that she can sense but not control or vice versa.
The fact that she can’t sense them means she can’t communicate with them, means she can’t control them.
She could probably do truly horrific things if a person already had lice or tapeworm or something though…
Hrm another thought. Weaver was trying to distract Scion, or make him stay away, but then he was caught in Grey Boy’s power anyway.
If/when Scion breaks free, does he come after Weaver, thinking she entrapped him? Or does he know where the power came from.
After all of the angst, last chapter, over Taylor’s state of mind, I’m surprised that no one has yet to mention Theo’s views on Taylor / Weaver. As he is staring at the wall that used to hold Nilbog, Theo reflects on the possible reactions of the various capes present. He saves Weaver for last. He notes that she is so still that for the occasional movement of her head, she could be a deactivated robot. He also notes that Weaver is notoriously hard to read. ( I think this is a defense mechanism to foil people trying to ‘cold read’ her. ) Taylor is also the only one there who he seems to separate into two different entities. He recognizes a shrug as being from Taylor, yet when she starts talking with Chevalier and the others about their destination, he thinks to himself “There she is. There’s Weaver.
Does he separate them because he has a closer relationship as a long term teammate than he does with most everyone else there? Is this simply a friend / professional separation here or is Theo seeing enough of a distinction to separate the two in his mind?
Afterthought – The hard to read thing could also just be Taylor losing herself in her bugs. She has been using them to meditate.
That afterthought isn’t speculation, it’s straight-up canon. Armsmaster discovered it, Grue mentioned it, Imp taunted it and Alexandria died from it.
Yeah. I can see the connection. If Taylor is transferring her emotions to her bugs, leaving her body to appear calm, would make her difficult to read like anyone else. Now that you’ve drawn my attention to it, Ms Militia also noticed it during the interview with Dinah while Skitter was in her cell. Looks like Imp may have it figured out and MM has a clue, if you want to ‘read’ Weaver, look at her bugs, NOT her.
I don’t think the Taylor/Weaver split is anything more than the Lily/Flechette split was.
I actually half-thought you were suggesting that Theo might have feelings for Taylor. Mostly because I half-think he might.
I wasn’t trying to ship them. Although, if Theo IS interested in Taylor, he may have a problem. I kinda got the impression that he was perfectly content with ‘Taylor’, but ‘Weaver’, spooked or disturbed him on ‘some’ level
That’s certainly true — and barring all parahumans being depowered and all Endbringers vanishing, Weaver’s not likely to go away.
Taylor/Theo would be a hard sell. Not just because she shot his sister, but why would Weaver settle for beef jerky when she’s had filet mignon?
I know Taylor/Theo is unlikely — honestly, I think Taylor/anyone is unlikely. I was just wondering if there was a bit of an unrequited crush happening.
You want unlikely??
Weaver / Defiant
After Clockies rant a few chapters back, I wonder if when this is all over, Weaver will throw him a bone?
I give both of those a -9.9 on a probability scale.
…I think you mean “plausibility”. Probability is specifically related to the likelihood of an event on a scale from 0 (impossible) to 1 (inevitable). That said, I don’t suggest trying to calculate probabilities of ‘ships anyway, so there you go.
Also, I don’t need unlikely — I can come up with ‘unlikely’ just by taking the cast list and random.org and rolling a few times. Watch, I’ll do it now.
*spends twenty minutes making a list of names from TV Tropes*
Omitting the known(-to-me) dead, the Pure (currently looped), the non-sapients, the extradimensional (i.e. the surviving Travelers), the Blasto-clones, and the insufficienty(-for-me)-characterized, I have 99 names, and random.org says …
– Rune/Imp
– Wanton/Menja
– Parian/Tattletale
– Valefor/Jessica Yamada
– Lung/Emma Barnes
…and I swear that none of these were faked. (Actually, does anyone want my list? It’s actually slightly amusing making these. Dovetail/Saint! Bitch/Foil! Bonesaw/Leet! Actually, are Circus, Uber, and Leet alive?)
Anyway, I don’t need unlikely. Likely is much more compelling. Although, to back off what is beginning to look like an overly strongly worded response to an innocent remark, it is interesting to check a character’s fellows to see if there are any possibilities, so on those grounds I guess you might have just been riffing off my remarks about Theo’s attitude towards Taylor.
Circus, Uber, and Leet all got caught by Echidna. Echidna’s interlude shows Uber getting away, with her remarking he was useless anyway. Don’t know if Weld managed to rescue the other two or if Sundancer killed them along with Echidna. Probability suggests they got away.
Actually, that pairing seems completely plausible. Taylor and Colin have grown to have a lot in common over time. So long as the age difference isn’t an issue (and it shouldn’t be – Taylor’s mature for her age and Colin only just grew up), they’d fit well together. They’re both pragmatic, happy to have/give time apart as well as together, have similar goals. And Colin’s had an AI as a partner – he’s going to be more comfortable than most with a chick whose mind spends it time distributed amongst swarms of bugs.
Honestly, it seems a much likelier pairing to me than some I’ve seen suggested…
For one thing, beef jerky is pretty long. Filet mignon, on the other hand, comes wrapped in bacon and I like my bacon separate from my beef. Also, in my experience it doesn’t take seasoning as well.
Because the filet mignon was two years ago?
I just re-read the first part again. I’m more convinced NOW, that Theo sees a schism between Taylor and Weaver. He deals with them in different manners.
I’m still not sure if that is simply a personal vs professional distinction or if this is hinting at something more. Either way, it does establish one thing.
Weaver is a hardass. Plotting, planning, always focused on the job. But then we already knew that.
Deepbluediver on August 6, 2013 at 22:35 said:
I just want to say, this line:
made me so happy it was practically obscene. You have no idea.
And then the ending, such a downer. Not because of Scion, we’ve basically seen how he’s practically useless when it really matters. But Theo….damn.
Yeah. Jack made his career on two things. Building a reputation so fearsome that people would hesitate, giving him an advantage, and hiding behind his actually tough teammates. Honestly have we ever seen Jack do anything solo? Notice he tries to have a Siberian near himself at all times?
Interlude 11b.
Much as I despise Jack, he *did* take down Oni Lee solo and was perfectly prepared to go toe-to-toe with Purity, enough so that he could bluff her into not starting shit in the first place.
Hmm. I suppose the latter falls under the trading-on-rep rubric.
I think he was bluffing Purity. Granted he’s fast and she’s probably not wearing cut-resistant armor (?? can’t recall; certainly not to the degree that Weaver is), but she totally could have taken him.
He was playing his reputation to the hilt*, I’ll grant you, but given the enhancements he got from Bonesaw, I think he might well have won that fight.
* No pun intended.
Jack reminds me of a cult actor who’s particular schtick makes him popular in a series of niche movies, but the moment he steps out into the mainstream and does something with wider demographic appeal it falls apart and shows just how shallow his typecasted role really is.
Soooo, pretty much Johnny Depp, except nowhere near as successful and a hundred times more full of himself.
I would so pay to watch Worm: The Movie with Johnny Depp as Jack Slash.
That was a pretty good part too, because he cut Jack off before he could really even speak. Would have worked out better had he actually won though.
Even better would have been
“Are those gold teeth?” Theo smiled as he unfolded out the gold panel. He’d have to let the PRT drones who’d complained about the expense know about this.
What about real teeth? Would that hold up against the Manton effect?
Of hair? That’s dead tissue so it might actually work.
I can understand people wanting Jack Slash to get comeuppance, but calling him pathetic kinda misses the point. Word mean things. Jack is not particularly vulnerable or deserving of pity, by all appearances he loves his work, and has proven himself more than adequate in it.
Yes, that’s why I consider him pathetic. He’s like some Jackass who call himself an artist, but is really just serving dog shit on plates in order to shock people. In the wormverse Jack is the worlds most successful Troll. Also I’m applying the armor of contempt for the duration of this fight. Once my emotions settle down, and I can look at the whole picture, I’ll reapraise Jack.
Oh and he losses a lot of points for his constant underestimation of Weaver. Maybe now that all his base belongs to her he’ll stop that.
I don’t consider him pathetic per se. Just doomed. He seems to think that his status as the “man who ends the world” places him on some sort of pedestal, but all he really is is a catalyst, and everything he did will be rendered insignificant by the shitstorm to come. And if the heroes actually manage to save the world, he’ll be even more of a favor.
He may have numbers and raw power on his side, but he’s been put into a situation that he’s never been in before. His enemies are no longer prey but predators, who are coming to tear him limb from limb regardless of what he says or does.
failure, not favor. You’d think I’d be on top of this shit considering my inability to shut up around here.
Hey Hookwolf, remember when you at least had some damn pride? Used to be all code of the Gladiator? I mean you were still an asshole, but now your just Jack’s bitch for when he needs to do a lot of slashing all at once. Pathetic.
Hookwolf never got cured of Bonesaw’s agnosia miasma. Not his fault that he’s totally fucked.
Now I want to see Taylor hover above Hookwolf and spit on him.
I doubt Hookwolf has any say in it. He looked like a disappointment as Nine material goes, so he’s been demoted to Noble Steed.
Misterspokes on August 7, 2013 at 08:46 said:
I still have no idea why the heck jack has a claymore in this scene, he could do the same thing with a weapon as deadly and dangerous as this:http://www.blogcdn.com/www.slashfood.com/media/2008/05/skewer050708.jpg
Which would honestly be more impressive.
I think sharper knives are more effective for him.
A razor-sharp edge on a sword is not normally a good idea, actually. It’s to brittle or to thin to stand up to more than a few good hits without getting dull or chipping. A knife, on the other hand, tends to be honed to a much finer edge.
I’m not exactly certain how Jack’s power functions, but it could be that he keeps the sword around for big, tough opponents, and the knife for the less-well-defended types.
I assumed that his power didn’t actually use the strength of the knife edge to cut people, but if it does, that would certainly explain why he would need a claymore.
It doesn’t, but there’s other factors at play. Recall Jack switching to a cleaver to sever Bonesaw’s hands at the wrist.
Good to know — thanks!
(I have theories, but I’ll go ahead and wait to see if they are confirmed or not.)
A razor-sharp edge on a sword is not normally a good idea, actually. It’s to
brittle or to thin to stand up to more than
a few good hits without getting dull or
chipping. A knife, on the other hand,
tends to be honed to a much finer edge.
Bear in mind Jack isn’t using the blade itself but an ‘imaginary’ projection of its cutting ability. Thus, while he can only cut things the real blade would have been able to cut, he can do so without damaging the physical blade.
At least, that’s my understanding. I’m sure I will be Jossed at some point in the near future.
No, you’re on target.
Sweet. Pun intended, Wildbow? 🙂
I bet Jack was dissipointed that Theo didn’t say “I see you brought out the good silverware for me.”
Now, I had a question that’s been bugging me for a bit, and I have asked it in other places but want to get an answer so I am asking it here: Siberian (Manton) was a Simurgh victim right?
He was shown to have two tattoos when Legendary saw him, a “C” from Cauldron on one hand (similar to the case 52’s) and a tattoo of a white swan on his other. One Hero (Eidolon?) mentions that they used to tattoo a white bird on the hands of people who had previously encountered the Simurgh, but stopped due to social stigma attached to those marked.
And on a more relavent note, what if every time we see scion he is actively looping?
This would explain the near unresponsiveness he has…
We don’t know if Manton was a Simurgh victim. It’s not come up. That said, he may have gotten the tattoo voluntarily, as some sort of statement.
(Also, Legend, Prey 14.7.)
That would cast Siberian’s protection of Jack in a scary new light, and bring up the possibility that the Smurf has some cards on Jack’s apocalypse table.
And since Cauldron has been offhandedly shielding the Nine, Manton in particular, it cast doubts on Cauldron’s invisibility to the Simu- Pffthahahahahahaha!
Those poor, dumb bastards.
Well, *yeah*. The S9 are dangerous and bugs are fragile, yo.
Miasma – poison gas
Crawler – duh
Winter – freezing temperatures
Bonesaw – oh let me count the ways
Crimson – invulnerable
Siberian – hah!
Nyx – poison gas
Burnscar – fire
King – outsources his bug bites
Hatchet Face – invulnerable
Mannequin – full of useful devices
Leaving the Nine aside, Cricket had ultrafrequency sound, Stormtiger had wind, Night and Fog have forms she can’t touch, Tinkers all have ways of dealing with bugs … yeah, the fact she’s able to hurt so many parahumans at all is a testament to her versatility and cleverness.
crazybean on August 7, 2013 at 15:28 said:
I grew so excited I had to pause halfaway through.
Fuck Yeah Harbingers are the best villains!
At the very least they sure don’t dissapoint, that was quite the showing. I read up until Chevalier got stabbed in the eye.
They are terrifying with the synchronized attack. That’s how you do combat clairvoyance.
I hope they won’t all be killed off. So much potential for future fights. This is the type of battle scene I like to see. In the same vein I also hope we can keep a Murder Rat as a villain, with the acrobatics she pulled off she made for really cool fights. Love the nimble villains. Maybe a Mannequin , too.
There’s others I’d like to see more of, you make simply too many intriguing characters in such a short time.
Another thing, Jack only made eight harbingers. Does that mean he still considers Number Man a member of the S9 ?
On a final note, I hope Taylor sets one of the spiders on Saint that made Lung’s dick rot off. Without Lung’s regeneration…. After that Defiant can finish him off.
This would be the only point I fully agree with. Saint needs a few Brown Recluse placed on mr johnson and the twins.
As for the rest, yeah, they make for good exciting fights. I want to see them ALL dead. Ten minutes ago.
That’s too nice for Saint.
The Harbringers aren’t clairvoyants. They should have died, or at least been injured by that 5-story drop. They weren’t. I’m guessing they have some kind of narrative control, but that might be too much Warrens of Oric the Awesome…
As others have pointed out, people have fallen out of *aeroplanes* and survived (IIRC, completely understand injured in at least one case). It’s all in how you fall, and if there’s anyone in a position to know the perfect way to fall, it’s Harbinger.
Holy carp. The catalyst never was Jack, it was Gray Boy. Who Jack allowed to exist, but still…
And to think, the Nine-clones would likely have never been made if Jack hadn’t heard he would end the world.
I don’t quite understand how the Harbingers could dodge Chevalier’s swings, using the flat of his blade he’d be swinging too fast with too much volume affected for them to dodge.
I think there is a problem here. Dinah’s power works on a model that is some variant of modal realism probably with libertarian free will. But the above quote implies that her numbers are actually measures of subjective uncertainty. That is: Jack is either to the left or to the right. If Dinah can actually see the outcome of each action, then 100% of the time when Golem goes left, he find Jack, as compared to 0% of the time when he goes right.
(There’s a second problem, in that the prior description of Dinah’s power means that each a-or-b question should actually cost two power uses, because she has to ask “in case a, what is the probability of a good outcome”, and compare that against the same question for case b)
As I understand Dinah’s power, she actually does a stocktake of parallel universes ala the many worlds theory (see her interlude for what this looks like). Every time something could happen, the universe splits in two – one universe where it does happen and one universe where it doesn’t.
When she says “90% chance that Jack’s to the right.” she’s actually saying “in 90% of all possible worlds, Jack is right of your current position”.
It does raise questions as to what her baseline is, though. It can’t be 90% of *all* possible worlds – since humanity would never have existed in many of them…
lizzyjean on July 1, 2014 at 22:17 said:
Continuity flaw. Sorry if someone else has already mentioned this, and maybe I’m wrong with everything that’s going on, but . . .
Weaver is flying is this chapter, but one of her wings was shattered in 26.4: “I commanded the flight pack instead, flying it into him with both wings extended. He was brained, and the pack ricocheted off his skull, one wing shattering.” Not sure if/when she had time to fix it.
She can still fly without the wings because of anti-grav; the wings just give her more maneuverability/speed. She switched between wings/no wings several times in the Behemoth fight to reduce the risk of damage.
Awww I love Bitch even more. She kept up her Therapy Puppies program! That’s so awesome!
Loved Theo’s analysis of everyone and how they’d all react. It was interesting to yet again see how Taylor is just weird with her regular mannerisms now. She really is getting a bit altered with her thinking and reactions just like Rachel which is kind of cool.
The reactions of Theo and everyone else in this chapter in addition to Weaver’s actions herself make me much more comfortable with her decision regarding Aster.
Number Man is damn annoying. Yeah sure there are ways to statistically fall and not have any sort of major damage but weaponizing that is just annoying. I mean awesome yeah but to borrow a phrase from Fate/Stay Night, people should die when they’re killed. I guess that applies to Bonesaw and Weaver as well in hindsight though…
Oh damn Dinah has evolved from Little Miss Badass into Lady Badass! Totally awesome creative use of her powers plus massive amount of questions boost equals epicness. I love this girl so much right now. Plus she has go and say “numbery way” which is just too cute!
Theo did massively well all things considered!
Hmm, honestly I have a very hard time believing that Scion in honestly trapped. He’s either too apathetic to want to get out for the moment or we just haven’t given him time to actively try yet.
See, I said Gray Boy was significant. And now he has a tag.
I wonder what the limits are on his power. It looks like he creates localized time loops, which trap people by periodically resetting them- like Perdition but self-sustaining. The resetting affects people’s bodies, but their minds stay continuous across instances- Kayden could hold a conversation; she was processing some input from the main timeline, even if most of her was caught in the looping one. Like a video loop playing on TV while a DVR records the signal- the DVR knows time is passing, so each repeat of the signal gets recorded with a new timestamp.
But the loop isn’t perfect. He said he could hurt Kayden, even after he’d started looping her, and the injury would become part of the loop- it would keep hurting her, over and over.
Perhaps more significantly, he wouldn’t become part of the loop. The results of his action would get recorded, but the action itself wouldn’t- otherwise, he would get looped along with her. That seems like an exploitable limit.
Do the loops lock to people, or to places? If outside influences stick, could you shove someone free of one, by getting them far enough away from the starting point before they reset?
What if you applied Clockblocker’s power? What happens if they’re frozen in place (by time itself, inviolable, sooner rip the universe in half than break it) when the loop wants to reset them?
How does Gray Boy’s power furnish him with clothes? Riley said it did, in her interlude, when she decanted him, but I can’t think how.
If it really is permanent… how did we never hear about the first Gray Boy in detail before? If he was with the first Nine, and his power traps people in these loops forever, he ought to have left horrifying statues all over the world. Did his loops end when he died, like Hatchet Face’s power? Or have those statues been out there, this whole time, just with no one talking about them?
Arkh Cthuul on August 22, 2015 at 20:01 said:
Hmmm…..since Scion has shown no timerelated powers yet hes probably fucked.
Thats what you geht Wien you are an empty shell filled with only power (or maybe More? 😉 )
buggaboo on April 3, 2017 at 17:11 said:
Once again the author has failed the readers. Far to often in this story when something truly important occurs the author idiotically sees fit to switch perspectives. This is supposed to be Skitters story yet here we are at an incredibly important juncture watching what really amounts to a pointless fight as weaver tries to commune with scion, but no, the authors inability to apparently write important events into the story has failed us once again. It really is to bad that we miss every really important event for ones that mean jack all on the end. But its sadly a weak point that can’t be fixed since the story is already completed. Just sad the readers have been let down so so badly
TM on November 18, 2018 at 12:55 said:
Wow, unnecessarily rude.
S. Zimmerle on July 13, 2017 at 01:41 said:
Oh fucking christ I am so sick of Jack.
Oh fuq
Fuqqing Scion, man
This is like the worst timeline
Blub on October 1, 2018 at 18:09 said:
Hmm what happened now with Fog and Night? Were they trapped by Gray too?
I don´t get what´s with the Colors and how Golem came to the conclusions.
btw, doesn´t Scion have power nullification?
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Some day, Baby. Some day.
Posted on October 19, 2017 by ParentingIsFunny
For reasons unknown to me, family members enjoy offering Baby Joseph food and laughing at his complete disinterest in this strange multi-colored stuff we’re putting in our mouths.
My youngest daughter said to him in her high-pitched little voice, “You want chips and salsa, Joe? You want some beer?” (Please note that she was consuming neither.)
But the goofiness doesn’t end there. My oldest spilled dry Rice Krispies on the floor. Did she sweep them up right away? No. She brought out our hamster to do the deed for her.
When Punzi’s cheeks had reached max-capacity, my daughter had to resort to the dust pan. Apparently Punzi made some space, however, as she jumped in after it. I do like to teach my family members not to waste food.
I call this piece “Back view of Syrian longhair, with Rice Krispies.”
Filed under Funny parenting stories, Kids DO the darndest things, Kids say the funniest things and tagged babies, cleaning up spilled cereal, feeding babies, funny kids, funny kids stories, funny things kids do, funny things kids say, hamsters | 56 Comments
aFrankAngle on October 19, 2017 at 4:50 pm said:
Nothing like an animal to rid the human mess. Keep laughing, Mom!
ParentingIsFunny on October 19, 2017 at 5:07 pm said:
That’s what pets are for, right? 🙂
Carrie Rubin on October 19, 2017 at 4:58 pm said:
Ha, who needs one of those robot vacuums when you’ve got Punzi!
Originally I wrote, “Back view of Syrian longhair, aka Roomba, with Rice Krispies.” We think alike! Uh-oh, I might start thinking about how to murder people now.
If you do, we’ll have to collaborate on a book. Punzi, the Psycho Hamster series. 😄
Haha. Love it. Tagline: “She’ll clean up your messes” with a picture of her standing on a dead body, blood dripping from her long hair.
Haha, now you’re starting to creep me out.
Wow. That’s an accomplishment! And I didn’t even have to mention that I was on your doorstep! 😉
Andrew Reynolds on October 19, 2017 at 5:15 pm said:
Kind of confused here – is this a problem for you? Seems like a reasonable response to me. 😉
Come to think of it, it truly is. I don’t know why I’m so surprised by it.
Shelby R on October 19, 2017 at 5:18 pm said:
What else is a pet for than eating up food messes off the floor?? (Says the petless lady scraping up dried Cheerios from under the table)
This is what I’m learning. Who needs a Roomba! Great to see you here, Sherb! 🙂
Victo Dolore on October 19, 2017 at 6:45 pm said:
Hah! My kids are begging for something small and furry right now…
Hamsters are fun and easy.
vikingspaul on October 19, 2017 at 6:57 pm said:
Looks like a fluffy dust bunny. 🙂
Fluffy dust hamster.
Ha. Love it. Dust hamster.
She does look like she could be used as a feather duster, come to think of it. Hmm…
Robert on October 21, 2017 at 11:28 am said:
Some maker of hair care products — shampoos, rinses, combs, brushes, pomades — should use one of those as a mascot. “When you’re made mostly of hair, you take its care seriously.” Or, “You may never have hair care needs this severe, but isn’t it nice to know that if you did, you could rely on…?”
ParentingIsFunny on October 21, 2017 at 12:12 pm said:
Ha. Hilarious.
Ally Bean on October 20, 2017 at 6:21 am said:
I like Punzi’s work ethic. Doing all that he can to make your home a better place. What a fun little critter you have there.
ParentingIsFunny on October 20, 2017 at 9:22 am said:
I suppose it makes up for the droppings he throws with his mouth out of his cage onto the floor. We’ve seen him do it. I guess he likes a clean cage more than a clean mouth!
Chatter Master on October 20, 2017 at 6:45 am said:
Sometimes the names we give a ‘piece’ are just appropriate. Perfectly apt.
Heehee. Thank you, CM.
Chatter Master on October 21, 2017 at 3:56 pm said:
Julie Holmes, author on October 20, 2017 at 7:33 am said:
LOL! And here I thought it was a Tribble 😀 Having a pet to clean up the floor is nice and convenient especially with a kiddo like Joseph. Then again, they’re convenient when us older folks get clumsy. Our dogs are handy that way! 😀
Yes, not as big of a stomach as a dog, but easier to take care of. As the messes get larger, we may need to move up in the world, pet-wise.
ParentingIsFunny on October 20, 2017 at 10:51 am said:
I had to look up Tribbles. So you’re a Treky, eh? Those do look rather cute. I may have seen that episode ages ago.
Robert on October 20, 2017 at 8:17 am said:
Oh, you were so devilish with placement of the break in the e-mail before the jump to the blog. “She brought out…” and I expected some account of the baby’s being held by the ankles and attempted to be used as a carpet sweeper or upright vacuum cleaner!
Do you also manage this with typesetting page breaks in your books? I was sure that in at least one place in a paperback edition, Robert Heinlein worked that trick.
Meanwhile I’ve had trouble just getting editors to not “correct” perfectly good words I’ve used in a ms. that the editor’s vocabulary didn’t include, like “monopsonist” or “diplomate”. But when I’ve been an editor, an author complained that I didn’t change a grammatic “mistake” that isn’t necessarily one, where I trusted he meant it when he wrote, “I am as an expert in..,” just because most people would leave out the “as”.
Wow, tricky words. Maybe your editor was editing with the vocab of your reader in mind.
Robert on October 22, 2017 at 6:46 pm said:
No, they each told me they just didn’t know the word. So Lincoln Review changed “monopsonist” to “monopolist”, and Nomos changed “diplomate” to “disciple”. At least these days they could find words online. Meanwhile my friend Bob is telling our other friends I did a bad job proofreading & copy editing a short story of his 5 years ago because NOW he checked and saw I let thru that “I am as an expert” plus one missing letter in another word. The missed typo was my failing, but considering how admittedly dyslexic he is, he puts in so many that I think I’m doing a great job for what he pays just to knock the mistakes down to a few.
lardavbern on October 20, 2017 at 8:43 am said:
I wonder if they will be as generous if it was a food they really wanted and he could say yes. Hmmm.
Good thought, but he’s such a little play thing to them that I’m sure they’ll enjoy feeding him and think he’s adorable. They think everything he does is adorable. Well, almost everything. 🙂
heylookawriterfellow on October 20, 2017 at 10:33 am said:
Aw! But I need the front view, too!
Front view contained here: https://parentingisfunny.wordpress.com/2017/06/21/okay-ill-do-it/
Mark Petruska on October 22, 2017 at 7:58 am said:
Chips and salsa? Ha! Nothing like grooming Baby Joseph early. I’m sure someday he will love those. (And beer.)
D. Wallace Peach on October 22, 2017 at 11:59 am said:
It’ seems like a stretch, but somehow kids survive their older siblings. Ha ha. So do hamsters. 😀
And somehow parents survive kids. 😉
D. Wallace Peach on October 22, 2017 at 12:20 pm said:
Ha ha ha. That too!
P.S. Love that you shared Mike Allegra’s post. I read it already, as I follow him too, but, yes, he is funny and needs to be shared with the world more. 🙂
D. Wallace Peach on October 22, 2017 at 1:06 pm said:
Thanks! I’ve shared a few of his. He just cracks me up and laughter is a great thing to spread around. 🙂
Cecilia on October 23, 2017 at 9:49 am said:
You made me smile, and that back view too … )
So glad. 🙂
thefolia on October 26, 2017 at 4:41 am said:
I like the way she thinks even if the initial intention wasn’t meant to be wasteful but who can I delegate this inconvenience of mine to. I suppose there is almost always someone willing to do the dirty work for whatever benefits.
Too bad bringing out the hamster didn’t keep her from having to get the dustpan regardless.
Aunt Beulah on October 27, 2017 at 9:44 am said:
This is a charming description of small children and your enjoyment of them. It made me feel happy.
I’m happy it made you happy. 🙂
Allie P. on October 27, 2017 at 10:13 am said:
Unfortunately, that’s how my dustpan looks on a regular basis between my shed hair and the dog’s as well as remanents from the kid’s breakfast. Honestly, I don’t know how there is always so much cereal on the floor considering how much I see them shovel away. I can only assume it must multiple on contact.
Haha–multiply on contact. I know what you mean. And those days were all but behind me. Then I hit the reset button. 🙂
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Amazon Signs Exclusive Summer Deal with Warner Bros
posted Tuesday Jul 24, 2012 by Nicholas DiMeo
As Netflix continues to reign supreme after some of its detractors found their way back to the streaming service, competitors like Amazon Prime Instant Video are looking for new ways to bring subscribers to their content. Recently, Amazon inked a deal with MGM Studios for some classic movies and now the company has locked up deal, including a brief exclusivity, on a couple of popular shows. Amazon announced that it has signed a licensing agreement with Warner Bros to bring West Wing, Dark Blue, Fringe, Alcatraz and The Whole Truth to the Amazon Prime's Instant Video streaming service.
Amazon also said that both West Wing and Fringe will be accessible only to Prime subscribers for the summer and will not be available to any other competitor until the leaves start changing color. The fun part is that these shows will also be available for non-Prime viewers after the summer, something which is usually reserved for less-recent titles on Instant Video. Of course, also after the summer we will see these shows end up on Netflix and possibly Hulu but it is refreshing to see Amazon act in a proactive manner and provide the content for the first time through a legal streaming service.
Brad Beale, Amazon's digital video and content director, said,
Since launching Prime Instant Video, we've continued to expand both the quantity and quality of video content for our Prime members. Bringing Fringe and The West Wing - two shows with a devoted fan base - to Prime Instant Video first, is another way for us to add value for Prime members and to continue to give customers content they love.
While this isn't necessarily a ground-breaking thing for those who are for or against Amazon, this is another deal that the company has made to keep pushing their catalog of 18,000 videos into the 20,000-and-beyond range. So the question remains: is $79 a year for both free two-day shipping on Amazon.com and 18,000 videos worth it? Or are you still on a Netflix account paying $7.99 a month (for streaming) for 60,000 shows and movies? Let us know in the comments section and tell us if you will be making the switch for these shows.
BGR:New Amazon deal brings Fringe, The West Wing and more to Prime Instant Video
HTC Sells Back $150 Million of Beats Electronics Shares After a Year of Ownership
Just a year after HTC acquired majority stake in Beats Electronics for $300 million, the company has decided to change its mind. Beats is buying back 25 percent of the shares sold to HTC for $150 million, the same price they initially sold them for. The decision has been marked as part of a "realignment" effort for Beats, which will now "provide Beats with more flexability for global expansion." How that will occur and why they didn't understand this concept a year ago is a bit confusing to me, however even with 25% stake in the company, HTC will be the largest outside shareholder in the company.
HTC will also be able to still have exlusivity to the Beats Audio technology found in their devices. However, things won't turn out so good for them as they are planning to post a $4.8 million loss at the end of this deal. HTC has said that they are selling the shares back due to lack of consumer interest in the audio technology in their phones. Many critics have also said that even with Beats Audio in phones like the HTC Rezound, they were unable to tell a difference in audio quality. For me, using the Rezound and the HP TouchPad, I can attest that having the tech in a mobile device makes my music stand out, especially in high-end car stereo systems.
I suppose the good news out of all of this is that if HTC isn't fully bought into the deal they thought was great a year ago, they won't have to lose all of their $300 million when Beats becomes overtaken by other headphone companies like Monster and Soul by Ludacris. Both of these companies offer new, ground-breaking, affordable headphones of all shapes and styles, without compromising audio quality or over-emphasizing the bass of a song for absolutely no reason.
PC Mag:Beats Audio Buys Back Stake In Itself from HTC
Larry King Heads to Hulu, Brings a Half-Hour Interview Show with Him
On top of Hulu's great moves as of recent, like bringing original foreign programming to the network and introducing a brand new video player with a 10-second rewind, Hulu is continuing their progress by adding more content this week. Larry King, who has been off the air since December 2010, has brought a half-hour interview series to Hulu and Hulu Plus, in a multi-year licensing and distribution agreement.
The new talk show, Larry King Now, will show up on Monday through Thursday, sometime in the early evening, according to reports, and we've seen the first couple of episodes pop up around 7PM Eastern Time. So far, the guests have been Seth MacFarlane, Meghan McCain and Matthe McConaughey. King has said that his series will continue the same style as that of his CNN show, Larry King Live, in that he will offer up a mixture of high-profile people from political figures to celebrities. The show also looks to incorporate both content and social media into his new show.
Check after the break for King's and Hulu's thoughts on the new deal.
Hulu:Larry King Now
Verizon to Breathe Life Into Geek Squad
Verizon has realized that small businesses are in desperate need of IT support and feel that they are in the right position to solve the problem. Actually, they feel they are in the right position to brand a solution from another company: Best Buy's ailing Geek Squad service. The two companies have teamed up to create IT Help Desk, a 24/7 computer solution service in which Geek Squad Agents will take phone questions and solve a myriad of computer problems.
Janet Schijns, vice president of vertical solutions and channels for Verizon Enterprise Solutions, said,
Technology innovation continues to unlock value and create revenue opportunities for small and medium businesses, which are the lifeblood of the U.S. economy. Our new offering allows business owners to tap into today's sophisticated wireless and advanced technologies with the peace of mind that trusted tech support is readily available anytime the need arises.
Verizon seems to think it is a partnership made in heaven. What does Best Buy think of someone wanting the aid of their Geek Squad service? Hit the break.
Verizon:Verizon Teams With Best Buy's Geek Squad to Offer New IT Help Desk Services for Small and Medium-Size Businesses
PC: Where All of the Real Gamers Are
While Sony prepares the PlayStation 4, and Microsoft prepares the next Xbox, EA prepares for the PC. EA CEO John Riccitiello recently said in an interview with CNBC,
Just five years ago people said that the PC game business was in a radical state of decline because NPD said it was down 10 percent, 20 percent, 30 percent, year-in year-out... The fastest growing platform for video games today is the PC, but it's growing through subscriptions, through micro transactions and through downloads.
That is a little hard for me to believe - kind of. It all depends on what we consider PC gaming. If we are counting games like SimCity Social, then I can totally understand why he believes that. SimCity Social has seen huge growth over the past few weeks since launch. Riccitiello also believes there is huge growth in the full title business as well. In regards to FIFA 12,
We had five million players that first week and it's now july, and we've had no fewer than four and a half million players since then.
So, is it possible that PC is gaining traction? Hit the break for more.
PC Gamer:EA boss:
Viacom and DirecTV Come to Agreement on Content
It's been almost 2 weeks since Viacom pulled all of its content off of DirecTV, but there is good news for DirecTV customers: the negotiations are over and you can now watch your Nickelodeon again. What happened to get Viacom back on the provider? An agreement worth $600 million per year for seven years to Viacom, a gain of over 20 percent above their previous agreement.
This is less than Viacom had hoped. The original request was for a 30 percent increase, which DirecTV refused to pay, prompting the provider to end their partnership and removing their network suite from the provider. To add insult to injury, Viacom decided to punish everyone for DirecTV's very reasonable decision not to accept a 30 percent increase in licensing fees, by blocking access to its own streaming services. Even Jon Stewart, who works for Viacom, thought the move was insane, mocking it on his show.
So, what did DirecTV have to say about the agreement? Hit the break for a quote.
SFGate:Viacom Is Said to Get Over $600 Million a Year From DirecTV
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Ancient origin of the new developmental superfamily DANGER
Nikolas Nikolaidis, Dimitra Chalkia, D. Neil Watkins, Roxanne K. Barrow, Solomon H. Snyder, Damian B. van Rossum, Randen L. Patterson
Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine
Division of Experimental Pathology
Developmental proteins play a pivotal role in the origin of animal complexity and diversity. We report here the identification of a highly divergent developmental protein superfamily (DANGER), which originated before the emergence of animals (∼850 million years ago) and experienced major expansion-contraction events during metazoan evolution. Sequence analysis demonstrates that DANGER proteins diverged via multiple mechanisms, including amino acid substitution, intron gain and/or loss, and recombination. Divergence for DANGER proteins is substantially greater than for the prototypic member of the superfamily (Mab-21 family) and other developmental protein families (e.g., WNT proteins). DANGER proteins are widely expressed and display species-dependent tissue expression patterns, with many members having roles in development. DANGER1A, which regulates the inositol trisphosphate receptor, promotes the differentiation and outgrowth of neuronal processes. Regulation of development may be a universal function of DANGER family members. This family provides a model system to investigate how rapid protein divergence contributes to morphological complexity.
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Nikolaidis, N., Chalkia, D., Watkins, D. N., Barrow, R. K., Snyder, S. H., van Rossum, D. B., & Patterson, R. L. (2007). Ancient origin of the new developmental superfamily DANGER. PloS one, 2(2), [e204]. https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0000204
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Philadelphia history in advertisements
Philadelphia as Advertised
Grave Site
Factory Conversion or Diversion
Palmer’s Patent Limbs
Incidents, Examples, and Aftermath
Time Machine Wish List
Odd Electricities
Sunlight and Glass, Pleasonton and Prisms
Dismantling the Centennial
Kitty Foyle and Philadelphia, the “grand homey old town”
The TOWN CRIER and the Talkies: Jay Emanuel and Other Reel Fellows
The Hexter Building: Hollywood on Vine and on Point Breeze
Worth Looking Into
Malaugurata Città: Lorenzo Da Ponte and Philadelphia
Navigation Continued: “Marks and Numbers of Streets,” from the Philadelphia PUBLIC LEDGER, 1836
We hope that the examination of old advertisements in
You Must Take the Red Car
has shown how hard it was for Philadelphians to find a building under the old system of numbering. Below is an anonymous complaint about the difficulty of finding streets in our famous checkerboard of a grid, without the help of markers or signs. This is not an advertisement, though it is a newspaper article, and it has been transcribed for ease of reading.
Public Ledger, 25 July 1836, page 2
Marks and Numbers of Streets.—Every stranger, —psha! every resident, yes! every resident, even among those who were born and reared and raised and brought up in our right-lined, right-angled, right-looking, right-conducting city, must have experienced, at least once per day in his life, especially if he have lived long, the difficulty of telling his whereabout [sic], his bearings and distances, latitude and longitude in our streets. He may start from any given point, which he well knows when he sees it; as, for instance, Mr. Pagoda Arcade Brown’s arcade [see below]; but before he can get to the distance of five squares, he is totally on soundings and lost in the fog, and can no more tell where he is, than a sailor when out of sight of land, and the sun cannot be seen for taking an observation. We are daily accosted by elderly citizens, inquiring the way; many of them in the garb of Friends, and therefore genuine Philadelphians; people who have been born in the city, and have seldom been out of it. Not wishing to confess ignorance, we always reply that we are strangers. It goes against our grain thus to fib about the matter. But what can we do? By confessing ignorance, we must either libel ourselves or the streets, and we have too much self-respect, and too much respect for the streets, to libel either. And so we get over it by a white one now and then. Besides, we are sometimes tempted to read Jemmy MacFib’s Gotham Herald [perhaps James Gordon Bennett Sr.’s New York Herald], and “evil communications corrupt good manners.” The fact is, the streets are all alike. They are of the same length, breadth, thickness, height, complexion, appearance, aspect, look, countenance and configuration. They look as much alike as so many bed cords, spun by the same hand, upon the same wheel, of the same number of strands, out of the same lot of hemp. They have no difference, distinction, discrepancy, dissimilitude or dissimilarity. Each looks like all the rest, and all the rest look like each. They are all dressed in uniform like a volunteer company,
The streets of Gotham look like its own regiment of fantasticals; or rather like the farmer’s sons, of whom none looked alike but Benjamin. Each has its peculiarities to strike the eye, the ear, the nose or the shins. One has some half dozen magnificent churches, with steeples towering far above the city smells, into the regions of pure air. Another has no steeples at all, but is distinguished by shanties, pig styes, and slaughter houses. One is full of carts and drays, clattering like Milton’s devils in a pandemonian dispute. Another is full of omnibuses, roaring like Niagara, with the occasional scream of a woman or child, run over by the sober and orderly and well regulated drivers. The mud in one is knee deep; in another it reaches only to the ankle; while in a third, you sink over head, as in a Lybian quicksand. In one the eye is regaled by scores of dead cats; in another the nose is saluted with the odors of sundry dead dogs. In Broadway you are knocked down by an omnibus, in Pearl street by a cart, and in the Bowery by the Chicester gang. In short, no two are alike, each has its distinguishing characteristics, and you can not only tell where you are, but always perceive that you are where you ought not to be. But notwithstanding these striking, imposing, convincing differences, yet you find a guide board at every corner. So if you stumble over a dead dog in one street, and afterwards, in your course, stumble over a dead dog in another street, you have only to look up at the corner, to perceive that you are actually in another street, that you have not wandered back to your point of departure, and that the second dead dog is actually a different dead dog from the first dead dog.
But how is it in this rectangular city, which must look to every crow that flies over it as it looks to mortals on the map, like a chequer-board or a checked shirt? In Market street you may occasionally see at a corner, something in the shape, size and color of a weather beaten shingle; and if the sun shine full upon it, you may discern a few lines of a shade slightly darker. What these marks import we know not, for we might as well decypher a charred manuscript from Pompeii in which the paper is burnt black, and the ink is—black too. Our oldest citizens tell us that according to a tradition which they received from their grandfathers, these faint lines were letters, and spelt High street.—There is a tradition that William Penn ordered guide boards to be put at each corner throughout the city, with the name of the street in fair letters, the board of one color and the letters of another. It is possible that these few brown shingles in Market street may be the remains of them. We will venture, with all due humility, to suggest to our city councils that much time might be saved, and much inconvenience and many vexatious disappointments prevented, by putting not less than two guide boards at every corner. For instance, at the intersection of High and Sixth streets, let one be on High, the other forming an angle with it on North Sixth, a third on High upon the opposite side, a fourth at an angle with it on South Sixth, and so throughout the city, at every corner. Let the boards and letters be of different colors; and we would suggest as a fact in natural philosophy, which we have read in some book, that black and white present the strongest contrast. Doctor Franklin once said of a book presented to him, that the paper and ink were too nearly of a color. The printer seems to have borrowed his notion from the old Market street guide boards.
To show the inconvenience to which strangers are subjected for want of guide boards in our verisimilitudinous streets, we would inform the councils that it cost Mr. Van Buren a walk of seven miles, to find the office of the Ledger. He walked from the Mansion House [located at 372 Market, at Eleventh, according to advertisements of 1840 and 1842] to the extremity of the Northern Liberties, and back to the extremity of Southwark, in pursuit of Chesnut street, and found a Chesnut street at every intersection. He then went up Spruce street from the Delaware to the Schuylkill, looking at each intersection for Sixth, and found they were all sixes and sevens. He knew Christ church because it had a steeple, and St. Andrew’s because it had a barn door; High street because it resembled a farm yard furnished with sheep sheds; the Arcade, because it resembled nothing in heaven above, the earth beneath, or the waters under the earth. But where to find the Arcade! At length he politely inquired if a building opposite to him were the State House [i.e., Independence Hall], and was told it was the Moyamensing Academy [likely Moyamensing Prison]. It is unpleasant for a stranger to be thus wandering about, like a turkey in the dark in pursuit of a roost.
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Now about “Pagoda Arcade Brown”! Peter Arrell Browne (after whom P.A.B. Widener was named) acquired this nickname from his friends or detractors, thanks to the coincidence of his initials with the names of two extravagant and unsuccessful projects he undertook with John Haviland: the 1826-27 Philadelphia Arcade (said to be the first shopping arcade in the United States, it featured scores of shops, restaurants, and other public businesses, as well as the Peale Museum) on the north side of Chestnut between Sixth and Seventh, and an 1828 pleasure garden, dominated by a pagoda a hundred feet tall, near the Waterworks. Poe, who lived not far from the site, satirized the fondness for pagodas in his architectural writing. There was a Pagoda Street in the area long after the pagoda was lost. The pagoda itself is marked in the 1831 Simons map, and the street appears in the 1849 Sidney, 1858-60 Hexamer & Locher, 1862 Smedley, 1875 Hopkins, and 1895 Bromley maps. In the 1849 and 1862 maps, the block of Wallace that runs east-west at the northern end of Pagoda Street (which would be called North Taylor now if the block still existed) is called Arrell. Browne was a lawyer, professor, and advocate for science; for example, for the establishment of a state geological survey. He was active in the Franklin Institute, around the corner from the arcade in another Haviland building. The Academy of Natural Sciences holds his albums of presidential hair (it should be added that his studies of hair also led him to harmful racial theorizing); some of his samples were put on display during the 2016 election.
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Destroyer of Souls, Preserver of Bodies: Two Faces of Alcohol
During the late nineteenth century, temperance became a mass movement, moving as a progressive cause toward the Eighteenth Amendment. In 1917 the American Medical Association voted in favor of prohibition, a year after whiskey and brandy were removed from the list of scientifically approved medicines.
That ran against a long and respectable tradition of medicinal alcohol. The pre-Prohibition advertisements below do not speak of alcohol as, in the words of Carrie A. Nation, the “destroyer of men’s souls.” The first glass does not lead to the grave, as in the popular print “The Drunkard’s Progress,” but, when used in moderation, keeps users, young as well as old, out of the grave. Through sacramental use, alcohol benefits the soul as well. Medicinal and sacramental uses of alcohol are often paired in advertisements.
No matter what you think about drink and health, you might be startled by the rosy view of alcohol, especially hard liquor, in these advertisements. We may be reminded of old cigarette advertisements when we read of “leading doctors” who recommend one brand of whiskey for their patients. Advertisers sometimes allowed a hint of hedonism. For example, the 1903 mascot of Huey & Christ seems to be a combination of Puck, Cupid, and Peck’s Bad Boy, unlikely to “try in moderation and grow old gracefully.” But the firm’s advertising repeatedly linked Bailey’s Pure Rye with dignified aging, medical care (a nurse is shown ministering to a hospitalized man), and refined conviviality.
The advertisements for widely used bitters, bitter cordials, and bitter wine of iron, on the other hand, did not directly promote this cheerful view, because their sometimes hefty alcohol content was not acknowledged (the products were recommended for women and for children, who were said to cry for Snyder’s Celebrated Bitter Cordial). But it seems that most of these remedies contained alcohol, based on the manufacturing process and on independent tests, and that many people knew it.
PRESBYTERIAN HISTORICAL ALMANAC,1859
Smith, HANDBOOK AND GUIDE IN PHILADELPHIA, 1869
Keyser, FAIRMOUNT PARK, 1875
PHILADELPHIA AND ITS ENVIRONS, 1875
AMERICAN ENTERPRISE: BURLEY’S UNITED STATES CENTENNIAL GAZETTEER AND GUIDE, 1876
EVENING BULLETIN, 12 February 1877
OFFICIAL PROGRAMME OF THE BI-CENTENNIAL CELEBRATION OF THE FOUNDING OF PENNSYLVANIA BY WILLIAM PENN, 1882
ANNALS OF HYGIENE, 1888
PHILADELPHIA BLUE BOOK, 1890-91. It is not clear whether the recommendation includes beer. The extract of malt itself would not have contained alcohol.
PHILADELPHIA BLUE BOOK, 1893
THE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA AS IT APPEARS IN THE YEAR 1893
Mask and Wig Program, 1894
REPORTER’S NOSEGAY, 1896
INQUIRER ALMANAC, 1898
SEMI-CENTENNIAL ANNIVERSARY OF THE PHILADELPHIA COUNTY MEDICAL SOCIETY, 1899
UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA ALUMNI REGISTER, 1900
THE CHURCH STANDARD, 1901
BOYD’S ELITE LIST, 1903
YEAR BOOK OF THE HAHNEMANN MEDICAL COLLEGE, 1907
EIGHTEENTH ANNUAL REPORT OF THE NATIONAL FARM SCHOOl, 1915
AMERICAN CRICKETEER, 1916
"Huey and Christ"
"medicinal alcohol"
"Philadelphia advertising"
"sacramental wine"
“The objectionable column”: The Rise, Fall, and Imprisonment of the Canted-Corner Column
In the 1895 advertisement above, Mathew Schmid offers to relieve customers of a feature common in cities like Philadelphia. He does not have to explain that the classic up-to-the sidewalk rowhouse blocks of the late nineteenth century typically featured canted or diagonal first-story entrances at each end. The businesses that usually occupied canted-corner buildings could be seen from either side of the corner, and more readily seen as one approached them on either side–good for business. Dozens of of intersections still feature canted entrances on all corners. Very often an elaborate cast-iron column stood in the place of the lost corner. Schmid says that such “objectionable” columns were used almost universally. To this I would respond, first, that his invention must have transformed the construction of canted corners, because, to make a guess, fewer than half of the old canted corners in Philadelphia feature columns. Second, I would respond that the columns are not objectionable (though perhaps inconvenient on moving or delivery day), but attractive and even informative.
Here are some photographs of columns that display the names of their manufacturers, getting them under the bar as advertisements, and some advertisements for companies that made columns. (Unfortunately, the two groups don’t mesh as well as one would like.)
Allegheny and North Twenty-fifth NW, Philadelphia. William Adams and Co.
C. B. Moore and North Newkirk NW, Philadelphia. William Adams and Co.
C. B. Moore and North Dover NW, Philadelphia. William Adams and Co.
Cumberland and North Garnet SE, Philadelphia. William Adams and Co.
Cumberland and North Garnet SW, Philadelphia. Seems to be William Adams and Co.
South and South Fourth NW, Philadelphia. William Adams and Co.
Tasker and South Twenty-third SE, Philadelphia. William Adams and Co.
Wilt and North Nineteenth SE, Philadelphia. [William] Adams and Storrie–also at 960 North Ninth. Across North Wilt from this column was a similar one in green. It had been imprisoned in a reconstructed corner (see my Facebook page PHILADELPHIA PARTICULARS) and is now resurfaced out of sight.
Lehigh and North Sixteenth NW, [Jones and Scull]
555 Indiana and E, T B Luzier and Co.
York and North Fifth SW, Philadelphia. Alexander Mitchell and Co.
Bellevue and North Twenty-second SE, Philadelphia. Mitchell and Shepherd
Fontain and North Twenty-third SE, Philadelphia. [Mitchell and Shepherd]
George and North Third SE, Philadelphia. Mitchell and Shepherd
Parrish and North Stillman SE, Royer Brothers
Wharton and South Fifteenth NW, Philadelphia. C. R. Scull
Important Events of the Century, 1876. The address of the firm is also given as 1801 North Ninth.
Boyd’s Directory, 1890
Catalogue of the Architectural Exhibition by the T Square Club, 1894
As you can see, many of the columns have been freshly painted. They clearly formed, and form, part of the decorative scheme of their buildings. But many columns were lost to the revenge of the rectilinear, when owners decided to favor one street over another, or wanted the building to be a house without a canted living room. To judge from surviving buildings, many of the restored corners never featured columns at all. Many of them are so heavily paneled or resurfaced that only old photographs can tell us whether there might be a column imprisoned inside. But sometimes we see columns that have survived the change from a diagonal entrance. Sometimes the old doorway is blocked and the column remains, no longer objectionable because it has no activity to block. Then it becomes abstracted, like a piece of stage scenery. (See the photograph below.) Or the column may be imprisoned in the new corner, sometimes with a little breathing space, and sometimes mashed into the new construction like Ariel in the cloven pine. I like to find these “captive canted-corner columns.” You can find screen captures of both varieties in the albums of my Facebook page Philadelphia Particulars:
https://www.facebook.com/screenscavenger/
I urge you to look at the gallery, which has had several additions. If you cannot, here is a list of the intersections where imprisoned columns can be found (as of the 13th of February 2018): Addison and South 60th/Annin and South 8th/Brown and North Newkirk/Carpenter and South 5th/Carpenter and South 6th/Catharine and South 24th/Cayuga and North 19th/C. B. Moore and North Taney/Chester and South Alden/Chestnut and South 8th/Cumberland and North Bancroft/Fairmount and North 3rd/Fleming and Roxborough/Huntingdon and North 23rd/Kater and South 6th/Loudon and North Mascher/Luzerne and North 7th/Moore and South 21st/Moore and South Cleveland/Olney and North American/Pacific and North 19th/Pierce and South 21st/Poplar and North 30th/Price and Crittenden near 65th Avenue/Snyder and South Chadwick/St. Luke and North 5th/Tasker and South 24th/Tioga and North Water/Venango and North Percy/Waverly and South 24th/Wharton and South 22nd/Wilder and South 22nd/Wilt and North 19th/York and North 6th.
Cambria and North Van Pelt NE, Philadelphia
January 7, 2018 April 24, 2018
"cast iron"
"corner store"
canting
When did things stop being mammoth?
Surprisingly, we know when things started to be mammoth, and that the popularity of the word was sanctioned at the highest and most principled level, with thoughts of publicity, perhaps, but not as part of an advertisement. The occasion was the presentation to President Jefferson of a mammoth cheese made to thank him for his support of religious liberty. Here is one of many accounts: https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/a-tale-of-a-giant-cheese-and-the-first-amendment. The use of the word was clearly inspired by the discovery of mammoth (or supposed mammoth) bones, one of Jefferson’s many passionate interests.
The political associations of the term made it controversial and even derogatory. It did not supplant modest descriptions like “big” and “large.”
A. M’ELROY’S PHILADELPHIA DIRECTORY FOR 1839
IMPORTANT EVENTS OF THE CENTURY, 1876
But advertisers clearly wanted to wow customers with the prospect of seeing or obtaining something that was more than merely large.
O’BRIEN’S PHILADELPHIA WHOLESALE BUSINESS DIRECTORY. . , 1844
McELROY’S PHILADELPHIA DIRECTORY FOR 1845
INQUIRER, 14 April 1868. The celebrated Dan Rice could not present a mammoth, but frequently offered the mammoth.
William Syckelmoore, CENTENNIAL CITY. . , [1875]
Notice of a Centennial display, OFFICIAL CATALOGUE COMPLETE IN ONE VOLUME, [1876]
PETERSON’S MAGAZINE, 1881
NINETEENTH-CENTURY ALMANAC, 1892
MOORE & SIMON’S SEED BUYER’S GUIDE AND WHOLESALE PRICE LIST, 1902
MacCALLA AND COMPANY, 237 Dock Street, CHRISTMAS: TAGS, SEALS . . . NOVELTIES, 1911
Circuses were often, and naturally, described as mammoth. Among the other advertisements, the only one that has the scale of the mammoth cheese is the mammoth soap displayed at the Centennial. The mammoth shirt collar is delightful, especially as it looks in the picture like a streamlined street lamp. And the owner clearly can’t resist playing with the idea of the mammoth shirt. There is a point in an oversized sign, but would be the point of mammoth products like lamps or (fake) mantels, and would anyone really want a mammoth fashion plate? And children might have nightmares about mammoth asparagus (maybe not about the less aggressive-looking Boston Mammoth White Plume Celery). Maybe the expression succumbed to incongruity.
Finally, thanks to Bob Skiba for mentioning in April 2018 on the Facebook site Vintage Philadelphia the Mammoth Skating Rink and Velocipede Institute of 1868-69. All the fun seen in the notices below ended little more than a week later, when the place was destroyed in a fire.
EVENING TELEGRAPH, 20 April 1869, p. 3, from CHRONICLING AMERICA
October 14, 2017 April 21, 2018
mammoth advertising seeds Philadelphia advertising Jefferson "mammoth cheese" Centennial catalogues signage
“Somehow it seems to fill my head with ideas”: Startling Specimens in the Type Catalogues of MacKellar, Smiths & Jordan
Thomas MacKellar (1812‒1899), the man above at left, principal partner in the well-known Philadelphia type foundry MacKellar, Smiths & Jordan, looks like a sober fellow. He resembles one of the Smith Brothers of cough drop fame (not the Smith brothers who supplied the “Smiths” in the firm’s name), was praised by the Philadelphia Typothetae in 1894 for his “high scientific attainments” and philanthropy, and wrote hymns and serious poetry. His firm declared that “mere quaintness without utility” had no place in its products.
But start exploring the firm’s catalogues and you may feel that you have stepped through a portal—or a looking glass that fills your head with ideas as “Jabberwocky” filled the head of Alice. The specimen texts may remind you of the uncanny advertisements in a Harry Potter film, or the sign in front of a musty herb shop in Bell, Book and Candle. The specimens speak of “Nature’s Crochet Granary,” the “Perpetual Fiddlestick Assurance Company,” the “Annual Ball of the Web-Footed,” and “Telephonic Nursery Explosives.” To put it another way, the books read as though Poe, Dickens, Lewis Carroll, and Jules Verne had dropped in to help with the catalogues. There are satirical names like those in Dickens; at least two (Gradgrind and Skimpole) come from Dickens. (There is also a nod to Mrs. Caudle’s Curtain Lectures, Douglas Jerrold’s burlesque on married life.) It is not surprising that Alastair Johnston, the author of Alphabets to Order: The Literature of Nineteenth-Century Typefounders’ Specimens (British Library, 2000), explored type specimens as forerunners of Dadaism. (See his post on the book.) He says that MacKellar “gave the other typefounders permission to write stream-of-consciousness texts.” (He also notes that MacKellar had been apprenticed at a satirical paper in New York.) In a Project Muse review of Doug Clouse’s book MacKellar, Smiths & Jordan: Typographic Tastemakers of the Late Nineteenth Century (Oak Knoll Press, 2008), James Mosley refers to the “anarchic poetry of the incidental texts” with their “sometimes disconcerting facetiousness.”
Quite a few specimens lean toward science fiction. The 1876 Centennial had showcased the current state of the sciences and arts, rather than the distant (in time and space) future imagined at later international expositions. The new telephone was a sensation, but how might it be used? Perhaps for a telephone concert. It is not that there was no taste for new horizons, or for stretching the imagination. As the Centennial display began, Kiralfy’s Alhambra Palace opened with a ballet based on The Tour of the World in Eighty Days―admittedly, a contemporary, not a futuristic, story. (By the way, the Alhambra was on Broad Street, which was described by Verne as “the finest boulevard in the world” in All Around the Moon, chapter 24.) A few years before the Centennial, the Philadelphia Evening Telegraph had offered English translations of several works of Verne. Some of them were made by the man above on the right, Stephen William White (1840‒1914), an independent “phonographer and translator.” White eventually held several important offices in the Pennsylvania Railroad organization. He had been a commercial rather than a literary translator, unlike his fellow Evening Telegraph translator of Verne, William Struthers (b. 1854), who was related to members of a well-known (note the reference to the new public buildings, i. e., City Hall) family of marble dealers, but was himself a poet, admirer of Walt Whitman, and music critic.
Norman Wolcott and Kieran O’Driscoll, who have described the careers of the two translators, made the reasonable assumption that the two men knew each other. Did either one know MacKellar? It seems unlikely that he was unaware of their translations.
Below are sets of speculative specimens from three catalogues. Please click to open them for legibility. To avoid treating the forty or so advertising/headline specimens as separate files, pages have been created, using elements from the three books. The texts are all authentic; a few sample numbers have been removed. The pages are fake and flimsy, but why not have a little fun? In the post mentioned above, Alastair Johnston lined up several MacKellar specimens to produce a “visual poem.”
Please note the Venus Magnetic Express Company in the 1885 section, because the “pneumatic gutta-percha projecting cylinders” used to blow packages “safely and accurately” “to distant Planets” seems to take us into the realm of steampunk, and because Jules and Michel Verne also liked pneumatic tubes, using them to transport people across the ocean, or to deliver meals.
Eleventh Book of Specimens of Printing Types. . . (1885)
Eleventh Book of Specimens
2. Shniedewend & Lee Co.’s Specimen Book and Price List of Type Manufactured by MacKellar, Smiths & Jordan Co. (1888). This was published in Chicago―but one specimen mentions Swampoodle (not a made-up name, but the area where Shibe Park once stood).
Shniedewend & Lee
3. MacKellar, Smiths & Jordan’s 1892 Specimens of Printing Types. . .
1892 Specimens of Printing Types
If these are advertisements for things that did not exist, should they be considered as Philadelphia advertisements? Certainly, because a specimen book is one big advertisement.
Sources of title illustration: Typothetae, 1894; John Mundell & Co., Philadelphia, Solar Tip Shoes, advertisement from Leisure Hours, 1888; Wikipedia.
For another example of counterfactual fun and games from this period, please see the post on The Centennial, OUR SHOW, and the Streets of Philadelphia.
The Fictional Life and the Afterlife of TOWN CRIER OF PHILADELPHIA
The romance of Kitty Foyle and Wyn Strafford intensified as they worked together on Wyn’s Philly magazine project. (Please see my page on the novel: https://philadelphiaasadvertised.com/kitty-foyle-and-philadelphia-the-grand-homey-old-town/) Philly was to be “something like” the New Yorker, full of “wisecracking stuff about football, and hunting, and cricket, and the Orchestra, and famous food and drink, and little articles about picturesque history.” It seemed sure to be a hit with students at the many colleges in the area. But Kitty had her doubts, and so did her friend Molly, who did not believe that Philadelphia shared New York’s passion for “being In the Know.” The upper classes were serenely indifferent to innovation, and the lower classes knew that an appearance of sophistication would not lead to acceptance. Kitty knew that “Sankatown” wanted above all to be comfortable, not to be bothered, and saw in the magazine’s few issues a demonstration that the Main Line could not make fun of itself; that required an outsider. Even Wyn’s mother was aware that Philadelphia did not enjoy “that sort of persiflage” and was happy when her son gave up “that dreadful magazine.” To be fair, we should note that the first issue of the magazine was published just as the stock market crashed, causing his father to cut off his support of the project.
What might Philly have looked like? There is a ready answer in Town Crier of Philadelphia, “Philadelphia’s smart, new, humorous weekly,” as it was called in the issue of May 19, 1930. Here are some pages from that issue. Is the style familiar?
TOWN CRIER OF PHILADELPHIA, 19 May 1930
The magazine, appealing to “the cream of the Philadelphia market,” was to present “outstanding work . . . in a fresh and telling manner,” providing “smart Philadelphians” with “an amusing reflection of their tastes.” That sounds a bit like the build-up for Philly. And Morley must have been familiar with Town Crier. It was familiar with him, predicting that he would write a book “containing a whimsical loveliness and a description of the smell of doughnuts.” (This prediction itself may be nothing but whimsy, but, for what it is worth, in both Travels in Philadelphia and Kitty Foyle Morley seems to be drawn to doughnuts.)
Town Crier must have folded very quickly. It scarcely appears in online searches, though we learn that a similar magazine, The Chicagoan, lasted from 1926 to 1935. (Kitty says that another such magazine, intended for the “Detroit smart set,” might be willing to buy and adapt material no longer needed by the defunct Philly.) If Town Crier seems to have left few traces, why not find out what happened to the magazine’s writers and artists? Please see also The TOWN CRIER and the Talkies: Jay Emanuel and Other Reel Fellows.
Kitty did not seem impressed by the staff of Philly magazine, the Main Line youngsters who treated the project as a lark and the legions of “broke cartoonists” (to the magazine’s lawyer, “bohemians sitting on the stairs”) and “newspaper paragraphers” with material to sell. As for Town Crier, the names of the writers and artists might not leap off the page, and some appear only as initials (E.H.S., S.N.F., T.R.B.), brief names (Meg), or likely pseudonyms (Criton, Mary Scrapple, Philadelphia West). Some names have not been found, or were too generic to be pinned down: Francine von Schneeberg, Inigo Owen, William A. Armstrong. But the Alphonse B. Miller who wrote a biography of Thaddeus Stevens, as well as many book reviews on U.S. history, is probably the man who contributed an article about Hoover. We find a Harry M. Klingsberg who published fiction on legal subjects, a George H. Eckhardt who wrote about television and clocks, and a Harold W. Brecht who wrote novels. Rae Norden Sauder produced nonfiction for magazines and newspapers. Many continued in journalism: at the Evening Ledger, Sidney Lear, Henry T. Murdock (who became the Inquirer drama critic in 1950 and worked long enough to praise Barbra Streisand), and Eric M. Knight (who was also at the Public Ledger). While Knight was at the Town Crier, as we see in the ad below, his beat was “The Talkies.” Later, he wrote Lassie Come-Home.
Ivan H. “Cy” Peterman continued his sports reporting, at the Evening Bulletin and the Inquirer, and became a respected war correspondent for the Inquirer during World War II. Samuel Lipshutz is likely the writer of the same name, working around that time at the Record, who went to the New York Post, after being induced by his boss to change his last name to the more Anglo-Saxon Grafton, and became a widely syndicated columnist.
As for the artists, Bainton has not been identified, and two others should be identifiable as locally known artists, were it not for differences in styles and signatures: Angelo (perhaps Emidio Angelo) and Russell Henderson Esq. (perhaps Russell S. Henderson). NOTE: In the small print at the bottom of the second page above, we see that Emidio Angelo was the art director of Town Crier–that would seem to settle the matter!) Styles and signatures can change; E. K. Bergey, the cover artist, could well be the man who (using more than one version of his name and signature) went on to specialize in less stylized, more representational (“realistic” is not quite the word) covers for magazines with names like Spicy and Thrilling Wonder Stories. And two of the Town Crier artists, Richard Decker and George Shellhase (see “This Week” above, and the clown on the next featured page), went on to draw for the New Yorker itself.
Alphonse B. Miller
Criton
E. K. Bergey
Edward Drinker Cope
Eric M. Knight
EVENING LEDGER
Francine von Schneeberg
George H. Eckhardt
George Shellhase
Harold W. Brecht
Harry M. Klingsberg
Henry T. Murdock
Inigo Owen
Ivan H. "Cy" Peterman
Joseph Leidy
KITTY FOYLE
Mary Scrapple
Persifor Fraser
PHILLY MAGAZINE
PUBLIC LEDGER
Rae Norden Sauder
Richard Decker
Russell Henderson
Samuel Grafton
Samuel Lipshutz
Sidney Lear
TOWN CRIER OF PHILADELPHIA
William A. Armstrong
The Centennial, OUR SHOW, and the Streets of Philadelphia
The International Exhibition of 1876 can be seen as a Philadelphia story. It went up in West Philadelphia, honored the secular shrines in Old City, and showcased the culture, institutions, and burgeoning industrial might of the city.
But it could be said that Philadelphia was one thing, and the Centennial another. The Exhibition was set apart in a park, though linked by transit to the grid. It was bordered by temporary facilities for housing and amusement, though many visitors stayed in Center City and bought guidebooks that described the city as well as the Centennial. The Exhibition was itself designed to be, for the most part, temporary.
One could also say that Philadelphia was one thing, the Centennial another, and a burlesque like One Hundred Years a Republic or Our Show; A Humorous Account of the International Exposition (Philadelphia, 1876), by Daisy Shortcut, Arry O’Pagus, and A. B. Frost (that is, David Solis Cohen and his illustrator, H. B. Sommer), yet another. Cohen, writing in 1875, had fun with the past, from Columbus to the earnest women who had raised money for the celebration and the officials who had been planning it. But when he moved on to what might happen in 1876, he was free to invent tall tales, the more startling and unlikely the better. In one, the Colosseum is brought over and made the scene of a gladiatorial combat between Bismarck and the pope. And then there is the sad story of the Sphinx.
The fantasies in Our Show can be bizarre, the text and illustrations full of stereotypes we find offensive. It might seem better to stick to the official record, until we think what it must have been like to get dressed up and swelter through a Main Building with eleven miles of aisles and walkways and twelve thousand exhibits (Richard R. Nicolai, Centennial Philadelphia [Bryn Mawr, 1976], 58), and then confront Memorial Hall and its annex, with their thousands of works of art. No wonder C. D. Richardson offered the Centennial Cane and Chair Combined, “Especially Valuable for LADIES, who cannot possibly endure the fatigue without one.”
INQUIRER, 15 June 1876
The solemn Centennial visitors shown in wood engravings look as though they could use a laugh, and the book is often funny—just look at the “reviews” and the running heads.
Another reason to enjoy Our Show is that its fantasies are tethered to the streets of Philadelphia by local references, references that are set off at a slight angle from reality by altered names and strange contexts: the Alms House, Bedford Street Mission (unlikely scene of an “opium banquet”), Broad and Prime [Washington] Station, Cape May Diamonds, Darby, Richard J. Dobbins (a contractor who worked on Centennial buildings; he is given tongue-in-cheek credit for inventing Dobbins’ Electric Soap), lawyer Daniel Dougherty, Doylestown, Cherry Hill (N.J.), the City Troop, Egg Harbor (N.J.), Mrs. [John W.] Forney (the Forneys were a Centennial power couple), the German Hospital, Girard Avenue Bridge, Horticultural Hall on Broad Street, the House of Corrections, Jefferson Medical College, Manayunk, the Market Street Passenger Railway and other lines, former mayor Morton McMichael, rough and tough alderman William McMullin, Media, the Navy Yard, the Pennsylvania Railroad Bridge, Point Breeze Park (a horse-racing site used in Our Show to shelter the family of Brigham Young), Poplar Street Wharf, the Sawyer Observatory at the Exhibition, Schuylkill Falls Park, the Schuylkill Navy, Seybert’s Bell in Independence Hall, the Spring Garden Soup Society, the State Fencibles, Mayor William S. Stokley, the U.S. Mint, Walnut Street Dock, and West Chester.
He also mentioned well-known products and firms. Some, like Herring’s Hay-Making Machine, the Slawson fare box, Spalding’s Glue, and the Phoenix Iron Works, were not from Philadelphia. But many were. These references were not product placements. There are advertisements at the end of the book, but they are not for the firms mentioned in the book. No surprise there—respectable business owners might not have enjoyed being featured in a satire. The skeletal closing image of Alfred Timothy (i.e., Alfred Traber) Goshorn, the director-general of the Exhibition—
please see my page “Dismantling the Centennial” https://philadelphiaasadvertised.com/dismantling-the-centennial/
—was credited to F. Gutekunst, a prominent, award-winning photographer. The most extravagant fantasy involving a Philadelphia firm was the tale of the modern “Sphynx.” The original monument, placed on display on Belmont Avenue, was destroyed by “relic fiends.” A diplomatic crisis was averted when the firm of Robert Wood & Company created a modern version in bronze.
THE PRESS, 19 July 1876
INQUIRER, 13 July 1877
Henry B. Scammell, CYCLOPEDIA OF VALUABLE RECEIPTS, 1897. This could be the Bower’s Centennial Mead mentioned in OUR SHOW. It might have been a Temperance Mead (like this one?), but there were stronger versions as well.
Charles S. Keyser, FAIRMOUNT PARK AND THE INTERNATIONAL EXHIBITION IN PHILADELPHIA, 1875
United States Centennial Commission, INTERNATIONAL EXHIBITION, 1876: OFFICIAL CATALOGUE. When did things stop being mammoth?
Thompson Westcott, OFFICIAL GUIDE BOOK TO PHILADELPHIA, 1876
Listings for the Globe Hotel, Guy’s Hotel, and the Trans-Continental Hotel, VISITORS’ GUIDE TO THE CENTENNIAL EXHIBITION AND PHILADELPHIA, 1876
DR. D. JAYNE’S . . . ALMANAC, 1907. This almanac began in 1843 and lasted for a century or so. This relatively late issue is used because it shows the striking Jayne Building.
INQUIRER, 28 May 1877. Keely’s new “vaporic” or “etheric” motive power also attracted the attention of A. J. Pleasonton, the blue glass enthusiast.
THE PRESS, 19 July 1876. It seems that OUR SHOW refers to this famous old optical and instrument company, not to the window shade company advertised at the end of the book, because it mentions a barometer.
THE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA AS IT APPEARS IN THE YEAR 1893. George W. Childs appears in OUR SHOW as George Francis Childs.
MORNING POST, 3 January 1871. Tower Hall should have been of interest to Cohen, because it had a house poet.
AMERICAN ENTERPRISE. BURLEY’S UNITED STATES CENTENNIAL GAZETTEER AND GUIDE, 1876. Colossal, heroic, bronze work, indeed!
We can well believe that Cohen, a young proofreader and writer for local newspapers, including the Public Ledger, was known for “his successful and brilliant efforts as an interpreter of the main role in comedies and farces produced at the Amateur Drawing Room” and “[h]is rare gifts as a comedian . . . the means of delight to numerous auditors.” By the way, the efforts in the Amateur Drawing Room were made “to assist work in connection with the Centennial Exhibition” (Henry S. Morais, The Jews of Philadelphia [1894], 315).
Our Show has been made available online by the invaluable Internet Archive. The illustration of the Sphynx was improvised to join picture and text.
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Office Party: Diversion from Dennison and Others
As Halloween approaches, here is a brief look at the marketing of practical products for ephemeral entertainment. This is not about the marketing of materials for artists or serious amateurs, as seen below.
Desilver’s Philadelphia Directory and Stranger’s Guide for 1828
O’Brien’s Philadelphia Wholesale Business Directory . . . , 1844
Boyd’s Business Directory, 1890
It is not about the useful (if strange) and durable knick-knacks made by middle-class women with servants, or the appeal of ready-made novelties. It has to do with the allure and adaptability of inexpensive mass-produced products like paper. Stationery shops offer neat displays of products that promote efficiency and order, but a paper fancier would find in these advertisements plenty of opportunities for fun.
American Stationer, 1879
Nineteenth Century Almanac, 1884
This post began with a napkin. Here are ads from 1887, 1890, and 1892.
Why is a stationer offering (paper, it would seem) Japanese napkins? You can find one explanation in several places, one of the most entertaining being John Q. Reed and Eliza M. Lavin, Needle and Brush: Useful and Decorative (Butterick Publishing Company, 1889). The book is a cornucopia for those who want to get up to speed on their lava work, or would like to produce a few hair-receivers or decorated thermometers for friends and relatives:
https://archive.org/stream/cu31924003593344#page/n0/mode/2up
Needle and Brush: Useful and Decorative, 1889, p. 62
Apparently the napkins were done up with beautiful and colorful flower designs, inspiring “bachelor maidens” and other women to make them into sachets in all their favorite colors and scents. If you sew, the figure is self-explanatory. Fold a napkin in half with the right side inside, and stitch the outer edges together, leaving an opening of a few inches in the middle. Turn the napkin right side out, smooth it, and insert cotton sprinkled with a favorite scent into the “saddlebags” on either end. Tie a ribbon bow in the center, perhaps after closing the opening with exterior stitching. This must be one of the easiest projects in the book, and it is inexpensive and useful, if not durable.
And keep in mind these 1885 and 1887 advertisements for sealing wax.
The Dennison Company, based in Framingham, Massachusetts, from 1898, set up branches in other cities, including a Philadelphia shop that moved from 33 South Third (1862), to 630 Chestnut, and then (1898) to 1007 Chestnut Street. (The third site has survived, with alterations.) You can learn about the company in a recent history (see the link for an article about it at the end of this post) and in Seventy-Five Years: 1844‒1919, available from the invaluable Internet Archive:
https://archive.org/details/seventyfiveyears00denn
A view of the Philadelphia art department:
https://archive.org/stream/seventyfiveyears00denn#page/46/mode/2up
The sachets were a sign of things to come. In the 1890s crepe paper became widely available. As you can read in Seventy-Five Years, the four “Heath Sisters” of Buffalo realized what crepe paper could mean for “mak[ing] all manner of beautiful things.” In this case the customers made a pitch to the manufacturer. The manufacturer caught the fever, and passed it along to the public. The sisters’ demonstrations and display in Boston attracted such crowds that what become known as “Dennisoncraft” was soon being taught in branch stores, which came to include art departments. Advertisements show the growing prominence of the art department, even before its official establishment, and the development of new products and “dainty creations” that could be made with them.
Wanamaker Diary, 1901
House Beautiful, 1906
Official Historical Souvenir: Philadelphia, Its Founding and Development, 1683-1908, 1908
Ladies’ Home Journal, 1914
The company’s window displays, full of color and novelty and often devoted to holidays, were admired in trade journals.
Walden’s Stationer and Printer, 1921
(“How to Put the Win in Windows” was the title of a Dennison brochure marketed to other marketers.)
At the height of this remarkable diversion, from the 1910s to the 1930s, the company sold booklets (many of them, like the one featured below, available on the Internet Archive) full of designs for party decorations, costumes (to be worn over muslin or clothing), “halls, booths and automobiles,” weddings, and patriotic displays. Designs were given for Twelfth Night and April Fool’s Day as well as the more usual holidays. The creativity of the company’s artists was clearly stimulated by Halloween, as can be seen in this 1920 Bogie (as in bogeyman) Book:
Dennison Bogie Book, 1920
The 1920s seem to be well under way here. If you had been a “business girl” with bobbed hair, like the one shown in the booklet, you might have followed the directions (complete with menu) for an after-work Halloween party with sashes and headbands instead of costumes, but otherwise complete and thorough in design, with spiffy window and chandelier covers, a centerpiece, favors, and doughnuts, apples, and oranges in pumpkin, cat, clown, and goblin designs.
If you doubt that people actually wore the costumes, you can find photographs with live models and a surviving costume or two on Pinterest. In 1922 crepe paper went to the shore in the especially ephemeral form of bathing suits, modeled by women from the George B. Evans drug stores of Philadelphia. Before the amazed (or disappointed) spectators the paper suits gave way to woolen ones after they disintegrated in the waves.
Geyer’s Stationer, 1922
In the same year, live models in Dennison costumes appeared in the windows of the Venetian Art Shop in Wilmington (Walden’s Stationer and Printer, vol. 46).
In 1925, the Haddington Art Shop at 6050 Market Street offered instruction in Dennison handicraft, just in time for Easter.
If you doubt that the elaborate party decorations ever materialized, you can read an account of a ca. 1922 Haverford College junior prom that featured a crepe paper “Sheekstent” for the Valentinos of the Main Line.
https://archive.org/stream/recordofclass1923have#page/52/mode/2up
Paper can be treated like cloth, and had been used for disposable clothing for some time. (Dennison paper doll costumes added three-dimensional effects and custom patterning.) Textile methods were used to make relatively durable projects. Crepe paper rope could be woven into a pretty sandwich basket. Braided and crocheted crepe paper could be made into hats, and cellophane into accessories. (You may recall the advertisement for cellophane hats on the page for the 1920s here.) Other malleable products were adapted for crafts. Dennison sealing wax was promoted for painting, and for making beads and party favors with the look of cloisonné.
Crepe paper and tissue paper were not entirely lightweight, except in the literal sense. Young students and wounded soldiers were said to benefit from crafting work, and the uses of crepe paper that were proposed during World War I included substitution for medical gauze.
Geyer’s Stationer, 1920. This display was in the Philadelphia store.
Dennison was not the only company that offered inexpensive and temporary thrills. The George B. Evans company has been mentioned. You might also want to look at the holiday products offered in the 1911 Christmas catalogue of MacCalla & Company of Philadelphia, a company better known for scholarly and religious printing: https://archive.org/details/christmastagssea00macc
But no one seems to have shifted its marketing and its product line the way the Dennison Company did. Lace paper, waxed paper, and tin foil have inspired generations of hobbyists and decorators, but how much of the inspiration came from the manufacturers or marketers? Maybe you can recall, as I do, the Glass Wax Christmas window stencils promoted in the 1950s. They represented a comparatively modest spin-off; in fact, the window wonderland of wax reverted to its workaday purpose when it was rubbed away.
That is a far cry from the kaleidoscopic pageantry of the Dennison art department. But maybe even more could have been done. Was there ever a booklet for the Día de los Muertos? Or the Hinamatsuri, or Japanese Doll Festival/Girls’ Day? To get closer to home, consider this 1922 Christmas design. Hoops, wires, suitability for swirling and strutting. Was there really no Mummers connection?
Dennison’s Christmas Book, 1922
Featured image: Dennison’s Bogie Book, 1920
A history of the Dennison Manufacturing Company: http://patch.com/massachusetts/framingham/history-center-volunteer-pens-books-dennison-manufacturing-company-0
A striking convergence between mourning crepe and crepe paper: https://vimeo.com/116964519
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Dennison crepe paper crafts Halloween costumes Bogie Books sealing-wax Philadelphia advertisements art supplies stationery
holidays 1920s
Daylight and Delusion
You see above an advertisement from the American Luxfer Prism Company that offers a way to bring daylight into buildings. Prisms can be installed horizontally with vault (or pavement or sidewalk) lights, floorlights, and skylights; vertically with bands of prisms in shop fronts; and at an angle, with prism canopies.
Horizontal, vertical, angled–photos from an American Luxfer Prism Company advertisement, “Sweet’s” Indexed Catalogue of Building Construction, 1906
These devices, similar to the older deck prisms on ships, were popular during the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. The prisms provided a solution to the problems of shops and workplaces (and houses with gloomy dining rooms) in the long, narrow spaces typical of desirable city blocks, at a time when gas and electricity were competing as lighting sources. Business owners objected to the cost of artificial lighting, to its effects on merchandise (soot, difficulty of judging colors) and employees (eyestrain that caused clerical errors, lack of healthful sunlight and consequent low spirits). Daylighting offered an economical and seemingly permanent solution to these problems.
Below is the cover of a fascinating Daylight Prism Company brochure, which is full of photographs of installations in Philadelphia. You can enjoy it on the Internet Archive. To the right is one of the testimonials in the brochure.
Brochure, ca. 1899
Atlantic Snuff Company testimonial, Daylight Prism Company brochure, ca. 1899
That testimonial was not illustrated. But here is an advertisement for another firm that occupied the building. An enlarged detail has been added.
The City of Philadelphia as It Appears in the Year 1894 (detail added)
The window treatment is hard to interpret. But here is a more detailed 1960 photograph of the building, slightly lightened to show the prism installation above the main window.
R. Blanck Carollo. Arch Street: 900 Block of Arch Street. Photograph. Philadelphia Department of Public Property-41198-0-. From PhillyHistory.org. http://www.phillyhistory.org/PhotoArchive/Detail.aspx?assetId=89787 (accessed 27 August 2016)
The good news about 924 Arch is that, though the prisms are gone, the handsome building remains, at the southwest corner of Arch and Hutchinson. In addition, it may be that one of the illustrated installations, at the Dobson Mills in Falls of Schuylkill, survived as a feature of the Dobson Mills Apartments complex (see figures 6 and 7 in the gallery of the apartments’ Web site).
These images of lost buildings seem to show prism installations.
Official Programme of the Constitutional Centennial Celebration, 1887, with enlarged detail
Philadelphia and Notable Philadelphians/King’s Views of Philadelphia, 1902. Prism canopies!
Advertisement for O. W. Ketcham Terra Cotta Works, The Bricklayer, 1916. The Huyler store was at 1320 Chestnut.
This post is a bit of a sideshow, designed to lead you to a page with a longer treatment of the subject (link below), one that includes vault lights (and their bit part in Bell, Book and Candle) and another, more sensational, use of glass, the blue glass cure or blue glass mania, which began with General A. J. Pleasonton of Philadelphia. That is the delusion of the title.
American Luxfer Company
blue glass mania
Daylight Prism Company
Dobson Mills
Philadelphia advertisements
Pleasonton
vault lights
Venus Rises from the Sea, Wearing Eight Yards of Wet Flannel
It’s summer in Philadelphia!
O’Brien’s Philadelphia Wholesale Business Directory, 1844
Evening Telegraph, 17 July 1869
Philadelphia Inquirer, 2 July 1877
You might try to make the best of it at home.
American Enterprise: Burley’s Centennial Gazetteer and Guide, 1876
But why not enjoy sea-bathing at the New Jersey shore, only two hours from Philadelphia?
Cowell’s Business Directory, 1860
Hotel Rooms Business Directory, 1870
Evening Telegraph, 8 July 1869
Philadelphia Inquirer, 16 April 1877. The bunting mentioned here was a lightweight worsted wool.
Philadelphia Inquirer, 25 April 1877
Philadelphia Inquirer, 12 May 1877
What was a seaside, by the way? I could not find any images, but it was clearly something like a parasol. And what did these early bathing costumes look like?
Peterson’s Magazine, July 1870. References have been pasted into these figures.
Peterson’s Magazine, July 1870
Peterson’s Magazine, August 1870
The owner of the striking Grecian ensemble might have preferred to be seen rather than submerged. But how many of those little hats and sandals―and waterlogged women―were swept out to sea?
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Understanding 9/11: Why 9/11 Happened & How Terrorism Affects Our World Today
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This course will explore the forces that led to the 9/11 attacks and the policies the United States adopted in response. We will examine the phenomenon of modern terrorism, the development of the al Qai'da ideology, and the process by which individuals radicalize towards violence.
Excelent, what I love the most was what we learned about Islam, now we can thinking this issues under many points of view.\n\nThanks for sharing your knowledge :D
Outstanding course and content; the interviews really enriched my learning.
Week 2: What is Terrorism?
Our topic for this week is, what is terrorism. We will try to define terrorism and understand the actions that we're going to be studying in this course, 9/11 and its aftermath. We will examine one of the key debates in this area; can terrorism be executed by a state, or is it only the use of political violence by a non-state actor. You will also learn how to write a policy memo.
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Okay, your whole memo is drafted. Now it's time to revise. A couple of other things about the revision process. Write long and then consolidate. You're going to think the 750 word limit is your enemy. It's not. It's your friend, because when you write, initially there's so much information, so many arguments you want to make. You're going to do a word count. It's going to say 1,000 words, 2,000 words, and you'll go, my God, how am I going to get this down to 750 words? I want to make each of you a promise. I promise you that that 750 word memo, after you hone it, after you consolidate, after you get rid of all the extraneous arguments, arguments that don't make any sense, the sentences you don't need. The words you don't need. That 750-word memo's going to be tighter. It's going to be more persuasive and easier to read for the decision maker than a 2,000-word memo that you started with. [COUGH] I'm sorry, you're going to go through a lot of pain and agony Getting the 2000 word memo down to 750 can be a very valuable process and it's going to make it a better product. I've said this three or four times, it bears repeating, keep your sentences short and uncomplicated. I can't tell how many papers I have graded in my life where I will do a word count on one sentence 40 words, 50 words, 70 words with three or more embedded clauses. Keep in simple. Keep it short. Short sentences are great because they give the reader a little rest. The reader doesn't want to have to plow through clause upon clause. Dozens of words upon dozens of words in one sentence. Work on your transitions. How do the sentence before relate to the next sentence. Is it a however? Is it a therefore? So do they contrast? Or does one support the other? Is it just an additional point? Is it a moreover? So those linking words, does it temporally, currently? As we said previously, sometimes these linking words can provide some sort of temporal linkage between one or the other. There's always relationships with the sentences, between sentences and you need to use those linking words to smooth those transitions. And I said before, focus on the first sentences of your paragraphs.
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“Ambassador,” Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) interjected, “are you aware of anyone connected to you that might have given that to The Washington Post?”
Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) interjected: “Did you talk to the State Department about the possibility of releasing your opening statement to the press?”
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Eco Paste Lightens Up Cleaning Market
Tuesday 14 October 2008 PDF Print
JML are planning to lighten up the household cleaning market with an environmentally friendly cleaning paste called Doktor Power. We’ve just moved production of this to a solar-powered plant.
The Hungary based factory has a 120 m2 roof fitted solar panel. It’s responsible for heating ten thousand litres of water a day, where it mixes with a soft stone making it soluble. This is then pumped through machinery and poured into shop-ready tubs where it cools and sets. The panels are also responsible for powering the factory offices. The annual energy produced by the collectors is 74,568 kWh.
During summer months solar power provides all the plant’s energy needs. When the sky clouds over, solar energy can still supply 30% power for the factory. The rest is provided by a process called gasification. This converts wood into clean-burning gas fuel and hydrogen. It works by reacting wood at high temperatures with oxygen. This is good because it doesn’t produce any toxic waste.
The wood comes from an adjoining forest of poplar and feast trees. For every one that’s used, a replacement is planted and re-grown.
Ken Daly, JML’s Group Managing Director says: “We feel passionate about Doktor Power. It’s an incredibly effective cleaner, yet it’s truly kind to the environment. We’re working extremely hard to develop more products that have less impact on the planet, and we’re working just as hard to ensure that our business is as environmentally friendly too. This is all part of a programme we call The Green Way.”
JML’s Green Way initiative is a business-wide environmental plan that will reduce the impact on the environment climate change. The initial phase of this plan will see JML:
• Donate profits to the World Land Trust to combat deforestation
• Reduce energy use by 15% every year
• Help customers live greener lifestyles
• Reduce packaging wast
Editor’s notes on it here
Launched in 2007 and shortlisted for Product Of The Year, Doktor Power has already sold over £3 million. JML have committed £1 million media spend to the October campaign which includes television advertising, below the line activity and PR. The cleaner is biodegradable and the packaging recyclable, making it kinder to the environment. It demonstrates unsurpassed cleaning power and, unlike most cleaning products, contains no bleaches, parabens or phosphates.
Jonathan O'Connor
Email: jonathanoconnor@johnmillsltd.co.uk
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Shaheen Afridi Rejected BPL Offer to Play for Pakistan in the World Cup
Posted 2 years ago by Aitzaz Hassan
Afridi rejects offer from BPL to perform duties for the Green Team.
Afridi rejected a contract offer from Bangladesh Premier League (BPL) to play for his U-19 national side. This is Shaheen Afridi we are talking about, probably not the Afridi you were expecting but the young gun surely is a prodigy. He isn’t even related to the popular Shahid Afridi.
Shaheen Afridi joined Pakistan’s Under 19 team to prepare for the U-19 World Cup instead of going for easy money at the BPL.
Why Afridi Rejected Offer
The young fast bowler impressed the likes of legendary Wasim Akram when he made his debut. The pacer took 8 wickets giving only 39 runs during his first class cricket debut. He was the center of headlines after the match as he became the bowler with best figures on a debut.
A Tea Vendor’s Son is Playing for Pakistan in U-19 ICC Cricket World Cup!
Considering the huge potential that he holds, he was offered a contract by BPL. He, however, rejected it humbly to play Under-19 World Cup. He said;
I got a contract for the BPL and for the T10 league too but I didn’t go because I was attending the camp for preparing for the Under 19 World Cup, I was sad to not go but it’s my national duty. Next year hopefully I’m free and will be going.
Afridi says that his inspiration comes from his role model Wasim Akram. Talking about the resemblance of his bowling action with Waseem Akram’s, Shaheen told;
I bowl like Wasim Akram. When I was starting the game, I was watching Akram on video and taking tips. He’s a legend bowler for Pakistan.
Waseem Akram was also impressed with the 6.5 feet tall and 17-year old pacer, saying;
He is a left arm bowler, he is tall and he remembers me of my youth, as his bowling action is also identical, coming in sideways, extract bounce.
Shaheen Afridi has claimed 12 scalps so far in his 2 first class matches. He hopes to carry his form to the world cup and bring the trophy home. U-19 world cup will kick off tomorrow i.e. 13th January, with New Zealand and current defending champions West Indies playing against each other.
Pakistan will play their first match against neighbors Afghanistan tomorrow.
[And one more thing, though the resemblance of names is kindred, Shaheen Afridi isn’t related to Shahid Afrid.]
Via: Brecoder
Aitzaz Hassan
zahid says:
Title is misleading its look like BPL offered him to play for pakistan and he rejected
The title is misleading is any case what so ever as all the Pakistani Cricket players are under contract with PCB and they are bound to get an NOC from PCB to play any form of cricket and i am sure PCB would have rejected if he had asked them for.
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Reflectivity and Liquid Water Content Vertical Decomposition Diagrams to Diagnose Vertical Evolution of Raindrop Size Distributions
Journal of Atmospheric and Oceanic Technology, 33(3), 579-595.
CIRES (Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences)
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This study consists of two parts. The first part describes the way in which vertical air motions and raindrop size distributions (DSDs) were retrieved from 449-MHz and 2.835-GHz (UHF and S band) vertically pointing radars (VPRs) deployed side by side during the Midlatitude Continental Convective Clouds Experiment (MC3E) held in northern Oklahoma. The 449-MHz VPR can measure both vertical air motion and raindrop motion. The S-band VPR can measure only raindrop motion. These differences in VPR sensitivities facilitates the identification of two peaks in 449-MHz VPR reflectivity-weighted Doppler velocity spectra and the retrieval of vertical air motion and DSD parameters from near the surface to just below the melting layer. The second part of this study used the retrieved DSD parameters to decompose reflectivity and liquid water content (LWC) into two terms, one representing number concentration and the other representing DSD shape. Reflectivity and LWC vertical decomposition diagrams (Z-VDDs and LWC-VDDs, respectively) are introduced to highlight interactions between raindrop number and DSD shape in the vertical column. Analysis of Z-VDDs provides indirect measure of microphysical processes through radar reflectivity. Analysis of LWC-VDDs provides direct investigation of microphysical processes in the vertical column, including net raindrop evaporation or accretion and net raindrop breakup or coalescence. During a stratiform rain event (20 May 2011), LWC-VDDs exhibited signatures of net evaporation and net raindrop coalescence as the raindrops fell a distance of 2 km under a well-defined radar bright band. The LWC-VDD is a tool to characterize rain microphysics with quantities related to number-controlled and size-controlled processes.
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Li, F.; Vikhliaev, Y. V.; Newman, P. A.; Pawson, S.; Perlwitz, J.; Waugh, D. W.; Douglass, A. R.;
Journal of Climate, 29(9), 3199-3218.
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Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, 97(8), 1427-+.
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What caused the recent "Warm Arctic, Cold Continents" trend pattern in winter temperatures?
Sun, L.; Perlwitz, J.; Hoerling, M.;
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New all oral therapy for chronic hepatitis C virus (HCV): a novel long-term cost comparison
Jennifer M. Poonsapaya1,
Michael Einodshofer2,
Heather S. Kirkham1,
Pheophilus Glover3 &
Janeen DuChane1
In the US, the prevalence of hepatitis C virus (HCV) has surpassed the prevalence of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), with about 3.3 million people chronically infected with the disease. Given the aging of the Baby Boomer generation and the subsequent implementation of age-based screening recommendations, HCV diagnoses are expected to increase. Utilization of anti-viral pharmacotherapy is also expected to increase as more effective and tolerable all-oral therapies for HCV become available in the United States. This research allows payors to assess the disease burden and treatment impact of HCV in their member group.
A set of three integrated economic models was developed to estimate the disease and cost burden of HCV based on existing literature, wholesale acquisition costs, industry standards, and actuarial judgment. Model 1 estimates the HCV antibody prevalence of HCV in a payer’s member group based on population size and the age, sex, and region distribution of the members. Model 2 predicts the number of uncured chronic HCV members who represent the future treatment and medical cost burden for the payer over the next 14 years. Model 3 contrasts the pharmacy, medical, and overall costs for treatment and medical care over 14 years for three therapeutic scenarios: interferon-based standard of care (SOC), all oral therapy, and natural course of disease progression, while accounting for the frequency of HCV genotype within the member population.
In a payer population of 100,000 members with an age, sex, and region distribution matching the United States, the seroprevalence of HCV was estimated to be 1.26 %. Combined pharmacy and medical costs for uncured chronic HCV positive members was least expensive for all oral therapy. The per patient with HCV cost savings for all oral therapy compared to SOC were about $3000 per year over 14 years. In a sensitivity analysis, the 12-week all oral therapy for genotype 1 provided overall cost savings vs. a 24-week interferon-based SOC regimen until all oral therapy costs exceeded $99,000.
In most modeled scenarios, the all-oral therapeutic scenario was less costly than SOC, even in sensitivity analyses.
Background/rationale
Descriptive epidemiology
Hepatitis C virus (HCV) is the most prevalent blood borne pathogen in the United States, with about three million people chronically infected in the non-institutionalized population [1]. There are approximately 17,000 new infections and 15,000 deaths annually due to the disease [2]. As of 2013, 75 % of people infected with HCV were between 48 and 68 years of age [3]. Men and African Americans are also more likely to test positive for HCV [4]. The main risk factor for acquiring HCV is injection drug use, accounting for about 50 % of infections [3]. Another risk factor is a history of receiving a blood transfusion or organ transplant before the year 1992 because the blood supply was not screened for HCV antibodies during that time. Other risk factors include: receipt of a blood clotting factor prior to 1987, long-term hemodialysis, presence of a known exposure (i.e., needle stick from HCV infected person or organ transplant from known HCV carrier), having HIV, or being born to a mother with HCV [2].
Hepatitis C infections have two stages: acute and chronic. Approximately 75–85 % of acute infections progress to chronic disease over time in the absence of diagnosis and treatment [2]. There are three predominant genotypes of HCV in the United States. The most prevalent is genotype 1, accounting for 73 % of infections, followed by genotypes 2 and 3 accounting for the vast majority of the remaining 27 % of infections [5]. Most people do not know that they are infected in either the acute or chronic stage of the disease. Studies suggest that only about one of every four persons infected with chronic HCV has received a diagnosis; this number improves to one out of every two in populations with access to care [6, 7]. Given the prevalence of undiagnosed disease, many learn of their disease only when symptoms of chronic infection appear, generally about 20–30 years after infection [4]. If the infection is allowed to progress naturally, approximately 27 % of those with chronic HCV infection will develop cirrhosis [8]. Among those with cirrhosis, about 25 % will progress to end-stage liver disease or hepatocellular carcinoma [4]. As such, HCV is the leading cause of liver transplantation in the United States [2].
The number of people diagnosed with chronic HCV infection will rise rapidly in the United States in the coming years [9]. This dramatic increase is due a couple of factors. First, a large proportion of those infected, namely the Baby Boomer generation (born between 1945 and 1965), is nearing the end of the latency period and will begin to show symptoms of cirrhosis prompting them to seek care. As such, cirrhosis prevalence is anticipated to reach about 1 million people in 2020 [3]. Second, the advent of age-based screening recommendations for the Baby Boomer group will lead to an increase in diagnoses among asymptomatic people—the US Preventive Services Task Force has recommended that all individuals born during the period 1945–1965 receive a one-time screening for HCV [3].
The goal of HCV therapy is to prevent morbidity and mortality resulting from the virus [10]. According to the CDC, the rate of spontaneous viral clearance is relatively low (15–25 %) [2]; thus, in order for a chronically infected person to clear the virus from their body anti-viral pharmacotherapy is generally required. Viral eradication is determined clinically via a measure called sustained virologic response (SVR), which indicates current laboratory technology cannot detect any virus in the bloodstream for a defined period of time, generally 12 weeks, after concluding pharmacotherapy [10, 11]. The treatment of chronic HCV depends upon the genotype. Until November 2013, the standard of care (SOC) therapy for HCV was interferon-based. For genotypes 2 and 3, the regimen consisted of ribavirin plus pegylated interferon for 24 weeks, leading to a sustained virologic response rate of 81 % [12, 13]. For those with genotype 1, accounting for the majority of HCV infections, the SOC up until November 2013 was a triple therapy regimen of ribavirin, pegylated interferon, and a protease inhibitor (boceprevir or telaprevir) recommended for up to 48 weeks [14, 15]. Sustained virologic response for those with genotype 1 on triple therapy ranged from 66 to 75 % depending on the protease inhibitor used [14].
The interferon-based SOC therapy across genotypes posed several challenges. First, side effects from treatment were common. Up to 14 % of patients discontinued therapy because of adverse events [16, 17]. The most common side effect reported was flu-like symptoms, often occurring for 12 months and in over half of patients. Other common side effects included depression, irritability, and inability to sleep, each of which occur in about one quarter of patients [10]. Anemia and skin rash are also possible side effects from ribavirin [10]. Second, administration was complicated by the fact that interferon was administered via self-injection.
The shortfalls of the interferon-based SOC therapy included (a) sub-optimal SVR rates amongst all genotypes, (b) side effects of therapy, and (c) the complexity of therapy administration. As such, adherence and subsequent cure rates were suboptimal [18]. This coupled with the fact that the number of people with chronic infection becoming aware of their disease is increasing [19] means that opportunities exist for new and better HCV therapies to enter the marketplace.
Several drug companies have responded and are developing HCV therapies to overcome the shortfalls of past SOC treatment. All oral regimens currently in the drug pipeline appear to have several advantages, compared to SOC, including much higher SVR rates (typically 90 % and higher) and fewer side effects due to the removal of interferon, and sometimes ribavirin, replacing them with more targeted agents [20, 21]. The advantages of all oral therapy have prompted some physicians to refrain from treating patients with SOC regimens in anticipation of better all oral therapies on the horizon [22–25].
Recently, sofosbuvir was approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for use with ribavirin as an all-oral regimen to treat genotype 2 and 3 disease, respectively [21]. At the time of this research, however the combination of sofosbuvir and ledipasvir as an all oral regimen for the treatment of genotype 1 disease was still under priority review by the FDA [26].
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Study rationale
Due to the anticipated increase in HCV diagnoses in the coming years and the new all-oral therapies on the horizon, payers need to be informed of the potential impact of HCV in the member population they serve. We hypothesized that the use of all oral therapy to treat patients with chronic HCV would be less expensive over time than treating those patients with SOC or allowing them to proceed through the natural course of the disease without any treatment.
We developed a set of three integrated economic models to assist payers with projecting the disease and cost burden of treating uncured chronic HCV infection in a member population. The integrated economic models were based upon assumptions derived from peer-reviewed literature, industry standards, wholesale acquisition costs, and actuarial judgment. The models also underwent a thorough review by an outside actuarial firm that validated our methodology. Below we describe the assumptions as well as the inputs and outputs of each model.
Input: population and demographics
In Model 1, the user is given the ability to customize the size of the population and the distribution of the population across age, sex, and region categories because HCV prevalence has been shown to vary by these demographic characteristics [27, 28]. The default member population was set to 100,000 as this number is generally used to express the HCV prevalence at the population level [28]. The default age distribution for the population was based on the age distribution for the United States from the 2012 American Community Survey [29]. As the population for this project is limited to persons aged 18 years and older, which comprises 76.5 % of the total US population, we divided the percentage of the population within each age group by 76.5, so that the sum of the age group percentages totaled 100 %. The age groupings and corresponding percentages are shown in Fig. 1. The sex distribution default was set to 50 % male and 50 % female. The region distribution was based on the census region level from the 2010 Census [30]. The default regional distribution for the population can also be found in Fig. 1. Of note, all numbers and percentages shown in green boxes may be modified by the user (Fig. 1).
Output: HCV prevalence
HCV antibody prevalence was calculated based on the average of the age, sex, and region-specific prevalence estimates. The source of the data for both the age- and sex-specific HCV prevalence estimates was the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) 2007–2008 data [6, 27]. HCV prevalence for males and females was 1.6 and 1.0 %, respectively. The age-based prevalence estimates were projected out 5 years to estimate the HCV prevalence based on the age groups 5 years later (2012–2013). HCV prevalence by age category (in years) was as follows: 18–34: 0.20 %, 35–44: 1.40 %, 45–54: 3.60 %, 55–64: 2.40 %, 65–74: 0.70 %, 75–84: 0.70 %, 85 and older: 0.70 %.
Region-specific prevalence information was not readily available via published literature; therefore, we extrapolated HCV prevalence based on data available from the reported acute HCV cases by state (including the District of Columbia). The numerator was derived by taking the average number of reported acute cases within a state over the three most recent years, 2009–2011, and multiplying it by 13.4 [28] to estimate the actual number of acute HCV cases. Then, we took the actual number of acute cases and divided it by the ratio of acute to total cases (i.e. acute + chronic) of HCV in the United States to estimate the total number of HCV antibody positive in each state. The denominator was based on decennial census data from 2010 for each state and the District of Columbia [31, 32].
$$ {\text{Numerator = }}\frac{{\left( {\frac{\text{a1 + a2 + a3}}{ 3}} \right)}}{{\frac{\text{B}}{\text{B + C}}}} $$
a1 = number of reported acute cases of HCV for the state in 2009
$$ \left( {\frac{\text{b1 + b2 + b3}}{ 3}} \right) $$
b1 = number of reported acute cases of HCV for the US in 2009
C = average estimated number of chronic cases of HCV in the US.
To create region-level prevalence estimates, we aggregated the state-level numerator and denominator data to the US census region level. The reported number of acute HCV cases was unavailable for Alaska, Arizona, Delaware, Hawaii, Mississippi, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and South Dakota. Thus, numerator data for those states was extrapolated based on that region’s prevalence estimate and the respective state’s population. Region estimates were then recalculated to include the states with extrapolated data. We estimated HCV prevalence to be the following: 1.20 % in the Northeast, 1.48 % in the South, 0.74 % in the Midwest, and 0.86 % in the West.
The output from Model 1 (i.e., the number of people who were expected to be HCV antibody positive in the target population) provides the input for Model 2, which is a classification tree used to estimate the number of members with uncured chronic HCV. For Model 2, we estimated that 80 % of those infected with HCV would have chronic infection [2], some of whom would not be diagnosed yet (Fig. 2). Among those with chronic infection, we estimated the number of uncured using the following scenarios: (a) those with undiagnosed chronic HCV who will be tested and diagnosed in the future, (b) those with chronic HCV who were diagnosed but not treated, and (c) those with chronic HCV who were diagnosed and treated but treatment was not successful (i.e., treatment failure; see Fig. 2). Support for key assumptions in Model 2 are as follows:
Model 1 inputs and outputs
Spradling and colleagues estimated that approximately 43 % of people with HCV and access to care have not been diagnosed [6]. In order to receive treatment, a diagnosis must be made. Therefore, amongst those chronically infected and undiagnosed, we assumed that only those people approximating the baby boomer generation (aged 45–64 in 2013) from Model 1, or 34 % of those chronic and not diagnosed with access to care, would be tested over the next 14 years. We assumed all those in the Baby Boomer generation who were chronic and not diagnosed would be tested per the US Preventive Services Task Force (USPSTF) recommendation that all people in the Baby Boomer generation be tested for HCV, due to the high prevalence of infection in this group [33].
For the 57 % of people with chronic HCV whom we predicted would be diagnosed [6], it is estimated that about three quarters would be untreated [34], leaving 24 % who would have historically received treatment. However, with the onset of physicians refraining from treating patients until new therapies are available, we estimated that 30 % of the diagnosed who historically would have been treated (i.e., 30 % of 24 % = 7 %) are now awaiting new therapy [23]. After taking into account those awaiting new therapy, we estimated that only 17 % (24 % minus 7 %) of the diagnosed had received treatment.
Among those who have received treatment, we estimated that 73 % were genotype 1, and, for simplification purposes, the remaining 27 % were genotype 2 or 3 [5]. Those with genotype 1 disease who were treated we assigned a treatment naïve cure rate of 71 % (combined cure rate assuming half were on telaprevir-based regimen and half were on a boceprevir-based regimen) [14]. For those with genotype 2 or 3 disease, we estimated a cure rate of 81 % by averaging the cure rates from various studies [12, 13].
Taking into account the three scenarios above, approximately 52 % of the target population who was HCV antibody positive was considered to have chronic HCV that has not yet been cured; this reflects the future disease burden for the payer over the next 14 years (Fig. 2).
a Model 2 flow diagram. Shaded areas estimate the source of 649 individuals from a commercial benefits program comprising 100,000 members who would be expected to receive treatment for HCV within 14 years. This group would be responsible for the treatment and medical burden to the payer over the subsequent 14 years. b Standard of Care: cure rates and therapeutic endpoint probabilities. “Standard of Care” = interferon-based treatments used prior to November, 2013. c All Oral Therapy: cure rates and therapeutic endpoint probabilities. “All Oral Therapy” = various combinations of sofosbuvir, ledipasvir and ribavirin. d Natural course of disease progression: therapeutic endpoint probabilities. “Natural Course of Disease Progression” = no treatment
The output from Model 2 served as the input for Model 3, which predicted the cost of pharmacy and subsequent medical expenses over 14 years following treatment for three therapeutic scenarios: (a) SOC treatment, (b) all oral treatment, and (c) natural course of disease progression. The natural course of disease progression was included for benchmarking purposes only as the lack of treatment would be considered unethical. Below we outline the assumptions incorporated into Model 3.
Cure rates
Therapy cure rates were based upon published literature for treatment naïve individuals since 96 % of the people from Model 2 with uncured chronic HCV would not have received prior treatment (Model 2). Table 1 outlines the cure rate we assigned by genotype within each treatment scenario.
Table 1 Sensitivity analysis by input for each model
Disease endpoints
There were four mutually exclusive chronic HCV disease endpoints incorporated into this model: (1) cured, (2) not cured and no cirrhosis, (3) not cured with cirrhosis and no end-stage liver disease (ESLD), and (4) not cured with cirrhosis progressing to ESLD. The flow diagrams incorporating cure rates and disease endpoints for each therapeutic scenario are shown in Fig. 2b–d.
Cost assumptions
Total costs were calculated by summing costs for one course of treatment for HCV and 14 years of subsequent, all-cause medical care across the four mutually exclusive disease endpoints. To estimate treatment costs, we assumed that all patients were treated in 2013 and were prescribed and adhered to a full course of therapy. The treatment regimens that formed the basis upon which treatment costs were calculated can been found in Table 1. We used wholesale acquisition costs to estimate the cost of medications that were FDA approved. For the one therapy that was not FDA approved, genotype 1 all oral fixed dose combination therapy consisting of sofosbuvir and ledipasvir, we estimated its cost based on market insights from BioMedTrackerSM [35].
We chose to examine medical treatment for 14 years subsequent to treatment because that is the estimated length of time it takes for progression through cirrhosis to ESLD (12 years) [36] and from ESLD to death (2 years) [36]. The all cause medical costs, incorporating both hospital and outpatient costs, for (1) cured and (2) not cured, no cirrhosis were based upon a study by Kaiser Permanente that examined healthcare costs after treatment by cured status [37] that we inflation adjusted to 2013 dollars [38]. We estimated the per person cost of all cause medical care in 2013 to be $7626 for cured and $12,281 for not cured without cirrhosis. For patients not cured with cirrhosis but no ESLD as well as those not cured with cirrhosis progressing to ESLD, we used estimates from an article by Gordon and colleagues [39] that calculated annual all cause medical costs for cirrhosis and ESLD and inflation adjusted them to 2013 dollars [38]. The annual all cause medical costs for treating a patient in 2013 was estimated to be $24,460 for cirrhosis and $64,497 for ESLD, respectively. For those whom we predicted would progress to ESLD, we summed the cost of treatment for compensated cirrhosis for 12 years (2013–2023) and ESLD for 2 years (2024–2026) to estimate the cost over 14 years.
Since the analysis for medical costs is forward looking over 14 years, we also inflation-adjusted costs from 2014 onward using the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid’s National Health Expenditures Average Annual Percent Change for Inflation [40]. Inflation adjustments were not available for years 2023–2026, so we averaged the inflation adjustments over 2014–2022 and used the resulting average for the years without projections. To allow flexibility, we also provided the ability to modify certain assumptions for Model 3. The SOC length of therapy is modifiable because it has been suggested that about half of those with genotype 1 disease who are treatment naïve may be eligible for a shorter course of SOC therapy [41]. Furthermore, since a payer may prefer which interferon or protease inhibitor is used; we built flexibility into the model to allow the proportion of people on each regimen to be modifiable. The default scenario assumed that 50 % used each medication when there were two options available (Table 1). Since the all oral therapy for genotype 1 disease had not been FDA-approved at the time of the analysis, the payer can also modify the per member cost for that therapy.
Using the default scenario of a payer with 100,000 adult members having an age, sex, and region distribution the same as that for the United States, we estimated that n = 1257 (1.26 %) members would be HCV antibody positive. Among those antibody positive, Model 2 estimated that n = 649 (52 %) would have chronic disease that remained uncured. This group combines those who are in the Baby Boomer generation and have not previously been diagnosed, those who have been diagnosed and have not been treated or are awaiting new therapy, and persons who were previously treated but remained uncured. Together they represent the treatment and medical burden to the payer over the next 14 years (Fig. 2).
In Model 3, we first contrasted the treatment and medical cost burden over 14 years between all oral therapy and SOC by genotype. For genotype 1 disease, the per member HCV treatment cost was 31 % lower for all oral therapy compared to SOC ($85,000 vs. $122,401) (Table 2). In addition, the cure rate for all oral therapy compared to SOC was estimated to be 37 % higher (97 vs. 71 %), which led to medical cost savings of approximately $3325 per patient per year for genotype 1. The overall per member net decrease in costs (pharmacy + medical) between all oral and SOC for genotype 1 was $5996 per patient per year. For genotype 2 disease, the per member HCV treatment cost was 213 % higher for all oral therapy compared to SOC ($85,084 vs. $27,206), however the cure rate for all oral treatment was also 17 % higher (95 vs. 81 %). With a medical cost savings of only $1965 per patient per year between all oral and SOC, there was an overall net increase in costs of $2170 per patient per year for genotype 2 (Fig. 3). For those with genotype 3 disease, the per member HCV treatment cost was 525 % higher for all oral therapy vs. SOC ($170,167 vs. $27,206). Even with a cure rate for all oral therapy that was 15 % higher (93 vs. 81 %) there remained a net increase in costs between all oral and SOC of $8682 per patient per year for genotype 3 (Fig. 3).
Average per patient costs over 14 years, Standard of Care (SOC) vs. All oral by Genotype. “SOC” = Standard of Care = interferon-based treatment used prior to November, 2013. “All Oral” = All Oral Therapy = various combinations of sofosbuvir, ledipasvir and ribavirin
Total pharmacy and medical costs over 14 years by therapy type. “SOC” = Standard of Care = interferon-based treatments used prior to November, 2013. “All Oral” = All Oral Therapy = various combinations of sofosbuvir, ledipasvir and ribavirin. “Natural Course” = Natural Course of Disease Progression = no treatment
Table 2 Pharmacy cost assumptions within each therapeutic scenario by genotype
After taking into account the prevalence of each genotype for the n = 649 members from Model 2, there was an overall net cost savings between all oral vs. SOC therapeutic scenario totaling $3142 per patient per year (Fig. 4). The cost savings resulted from a 3 % reduction in pharmacy costs and a 20 % reduction in medical costs for all oral therapy vs. SOC overall. Of note, the natural course of disease was the most costly method of all three therapeutic scenarios (Fig. 4).
We conducted a sensitivity analysis for all three models by showing the resulting change in the output of the model based on the range of values for one input (Table 1). As can be seen in Table 1, Model 1 was most affected by the age distribution of the population in comparison to other demographics. Changes to inputs for Model 2 did not result in much variability in the number of chronic uncured members with HCV that were expected to receive treatment in the next 14 years. For Model 3, the three variables that had the most effect on the per patient per year costs were: (a) length of therapy for genotype 1 SOC, (b) length of therapy for anticipated genotype 1 all oral therapy, and (c) cost of the anticipated all oral genotype 1 regimen. Increasing the length of therapy for the anticipated all oral therapy for genotype 1–24 weeks resulted in a cost increase for all oral therapy vs. SOC. However, this scenario is very unlikely to occur in a group where a large proportion is treatment naïve, requiring a shorter treatment length.
We also performed a break even sensitivity analysis by allowing the projected price point for genotype 1 all oral therapy to vary ($85,000–$170,000) as well as the length of therapy for genotype 1 SOC (24 vs. 48 weeks) (Fig. 5). The results of the sensitivity analysis show that the cost for genotype 1 all oral therapy could not exceed approximately $99,000 per member in order for the all-oral therapeutic scenario to avoid being more costly than SOC when genotype 1 SOC length of therapy was 24 weeks. At the length of therapy threshold of 48 weeks for genotype 1 SOC, the cost of genotype 1 all oral therapy could not exceed approximately $145,000 per member in order for the all oral therapeutic scenario to avoid being more costly than SOC (Fig. 5).
Per patient per year cost savings: All Oral vs. SOC by cost and length of therapy for genotype 1 All Oral Therapy. “SOC” = Standard of Care = interferon-based treatments used prior to November, 2013. “All Oral” = All Oral Therapy = various combinations of sofosbuvir, ledipasvir and ribavirin
This set of integrated economics allows payors to estimate the burden of uncured chronic HCV in their population as well as contrast the pharmacy and medical costs for 14 years between three therapeutic scenarios. In our study (Fig. 3) the cost savings for all oral therapy over SOC comes from the superior cure rate of all oral therapy to treat genotype 1 disease, which led to a medical cost reduction. Since the majority of the population will be infected with genotype 1, this cost savings was enough to lead to a net cost savings when comparing all oral therapy to SOC or natural course. Moreover, the results show that if a payer allows all of the uncured chronic HCV members to utilize all oral therapy upon diagnosis, there would likely be cost savings for the payer at the end of 14 years.
Comparison to other published studies
We found two other published studies examining the benefit of all-oral therapy vs. interferon-based SOC. In 2013, Hagan and colleagues published findings of a Markov model they built to examine a middle-aged cohort as it progressed through HCV disease to death. The outcomes of the model were willingness-to-pay threshold, incremental cost-effectiveness ratio, and quality-adjusted life years. Across these outcomes, the all-oral therapy for genotype 1 disease was most cost effective. However, there were also scenarios where all oral therapy, as compared to an interferon-based regimen, was cost-effective for genotypes 2 and 3 disease. The authors noted that variables such as the provider’s willingness to pay threshold as well as the cost of all oral therapy were two key factors in determining cost effectiveness [20].
A recently published article by Younossi and colleagues compared interferon-based and all oral therapy among genotype 1 HCV using both clinical and monetary outcomes [42]. The unique feature of this study was the additional analysis examining a staged (i.e. severity of disease) approach vs. a treat everyone approach. The authors concluded that all-oral therapy was more cost effective compared to interferon-based therapy. Furthermore, they found that treating everyone could also be cost effective as it resulted in the fewest number of people progressing to end-stage liver disease [42]. While approaches and outcomes across these studies and the current study differed, the results point to the same conclusion, which is that all oral therapy can be cost effective when compared to interferon-based treatment for HCV.
This study had several limitations. First, the models only apply to adults with HCV as Model 1 only encompasses persons 18 years of age and older. Second, the models are not reflective of HCV prevalence, cure rates, and medical expenditures for special populations, such as those co-infected with human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) or a prison population. Rather, they represent a commercially insured population.
In Model 1, we aged the population to project age-specific HCV prevalence from 2005 to 2007 to be applicable to the years 2012–2013. This methodology is limited in that it does not take into account entries (new infections) or exits (deaths) amongst the population over this time. If the ratio of new infections to deaths changed from 2005 to 2007 to the 2012–2013 period, our Model 1 would lead to an over- or underestimate of HCV prevalence affecting cost outcomes for Model 3. However, this limitation is not expected to affect our main outcome; the per patient per year cost comparison between all oral and SOC therapy.
For Model 2, the estimated prevalence of diagnosed chronic HCV is based on data from a managed care population and may not be generalizable to the general population in the United States. Evidence shows that in contrast to a managed care population, only about one quarter of those in the general population with HCV have been diagnosed [43].
With respect to Model 3, all of those in the uncured population with chronic HCV are assumed to be tested and treated for HCV within the first year. Thus, pharmacy costs may be underestimated, as they are not inflation adjusted. In addition, the proportion of the uncured population with chronic HCV that undergoes treatment and progresses to end-stage liver disease may be underestimated, as the proportion developing cirrhosis does not account for the increased likelihood of those with disease that is more advanced or prior treatment failure not being cured. However, many asymptomatic will be diagnosed per the United States Preventive Services Task Force (USPSTF) recommendations and almost all of those that will be treated in our Model 3 will be treatment naïve (96 %). Thus, the impact of this limitation is expected to be minimal.
Furthermore, the pharmacy costs only take into account one course of therapy, which may lead to an underestimate of total pharmacy costs for the SOC and all oral therapeutic models depending on the need for re-treatment. In addition, the cost estimate for genotype 1 all oral therapy is only a projection, because the therapy had not been approved by the time the estimates were developed [26]. To mitigate the uncertainty of this projection, we included the break even sensitivity analysis that provides a range of costs that might be expected for the per person cost of genotype 1 all oral therapy with the resulting impact to the outcome of Model 3. In addition the regimen and accompanying cure rate for genotype 1 all oral therapy is only given as an example because the fixed dose combination of sofosbuvir and ledipasvir had not yet been FDA-approved, and the cure rate is based on phase III clinical trials for this combination [44].
The medical and pharmacy costs do not take into account liver transplantation or treatment for hepatocellular carcinoma as the prevalence of these disease endpoints were too rare to contribute meaningfully to the cost estimates for the default scenario. The impact of such disease endpoints, if included with a larger population, would likely lead to a greater cost savings for an all oral therapy therapeutic scenario compared to SOC, since the cure rate for the all oral therapy is higher. Model 3 also does not account for the cost to treat side effects. Since all oral therapy is predicted to have fewer side effects than SOC [20, 21], Model 3 is likely conservative with respect to the cost-savings of the all oral therapeutic scenario compared to SOC. In addition, Model 3 does not address the period from diagnosis of chronic HCV until the development of cirrhosis for those who will develop cirrhosis, with or without ESLD. Since many of the newly diagnosed will result from birth cohort screening, the latency period before cirrhosis develops is anticipated to be small as disease acquisition likely occurred 20–30 years ago [3]. Finally, the costs modeled are representative of what may be incurred over 14 years. Thus, results may not be applicable to costs or savings incurred in the short term.
As more people are diagnosed with HCV in the coming months and years, payers will need to project the disease burden of HCV in their member groups and weigh the economic benefit of providing new all oral therapy vs. SOC. Our models take into account a population-based perspective factoring in not only the cost of therapy, but also the resulting medical costs over 14 years, while accounting for the prevalence of each genotype within the member group. Based on our results, all oral therapy can result in cost savings over time when treating patients with HCV. As new all oral therapies for HCV are brought to market and the price for these newly FDA approved medications are assigned, the cost benefit for all oral therapy vs. SOC will continue to evolve. While our model shows that the new therapies do indeed create medical cost savings, there remains controversy over how can the short-term drug costs be afforded by payers who typically do not have consistent membership over time. Thus, an insurer will be pay for a patient’s cure while another insurer or Medicare, will be the ones to enjoy the downstream financial benefit years later. More consideration should be given to how these drugs are financed in the United States, so that those paying for the therapies can be assured that their investment will generate downstream financial benefits.
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A Sailor-Made Man 1927
A previously undefeated fairground boxer named “One Round” Jack Sander (Carl Brisson) is beaten in the ring by a mysterious challenger, who is later revealed to be professional boxer and World Heavyweight champion Bob Corby (Ian Hunter). Bob’s manager is impressed with Jack’s performance and offers Jack the chance to become Bob’s full-time sparring partner, on the condition that he win a trial fight to be arranged at a later date.
Bob begins spending more time with Jack’s girlfriend Mabel (Lillian Hall-Davis) and buys a bracelet for her to express his feelings. The two kiss but Mabel reluctantly puts a stop to it. The next day when Jack inquires about the bracelet Mabel lies to Jack, telling him that Bob bought it for her because he didn’t want to take the money.
Jack wins his trial fight and is made Bob’s official sparring partner. Keeping his earlier promise to Mabel he agrees to marry her the next day. Mabel goes through with the wedding although somewhat reluctantly due to her new found feelings for Bob. At the wedding reception Bob jokingly states that he wishes Mabel had been the prize at his and Jack’s original fight. Jack boldly states that he would defend his wife in a fight against any man. A friendly exhibition match is arranged between the two fighters which Bob wins. After the fight Jack sees that his bride flirting with Bob and suspects that they are having an affair. Jack declares his intent to fight Bob for the heavyweight championship of the world but he is told that this can not happen yet as Jack is not ranked high enough in the league to challenge Bob to an official fight. Jack instead works his way up the rankings and eventually becomes the number one contender.
Jack arranges a party with his friends in his apartment as a way to surprise Mabel and let her know that he will be fighting for the world title. Jack and his friends wait long into the night but Mabel does not show up. After Jack’s friends leave, Jack stays up and waits for Mabel and eventually she sees her getting out of Bob’s car. Jack angrily confronts Mabel about her liaisons with Bob and smashes a framed picture of him. Jack then goes to the club where Bob is and confronts him, Bob tries a cheap shot but Jack knocks him out before he connects. Jack informs Bob that he is officially the number one contender and they will settle their differences in the ring.
On the day of the fight the two fighters seem evenly matched until the final rounds where Bob starts to dominate Jack. Jack considers giving up until Mabel, seeing him in pain, runs over to Jack’s corner and declares that she wants to be with him, not Bob. Jack musters up his remaining energy and unleashes a flurry of punches in the final round, eventually knocking Bob out and winning the fight. Jack and Mabel embrace as Bob accepts defeat.
Genre: Silent Films
Starring: Carl Brison, Ian Hunter
Color/BW: Black & White
Director: Alfred Hitchcock
Movie Type: Public Domain Movies
Decade: 1920's
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Pastoral Comments for Daniel W. Liddell (1927-2012)
One of Dan Liddell’s favorite hymns was The King of Love my Shepherd Is:
Henry Baker 1868
The King of love my Shepherd is,
Whose goodness faileth never,
I nothing lack if I am His
And He is mine forever.
Where streams of living water flow
My ransomed soul He leadeth,
And where the verdant pastures grow,
With food celestial feedeth.
Perverse and foolish oft I strayed,
But yet in love He sought me,
And on His shoulder gently laid,
And home, rejoicing, brought me.
In death’s dark vale I fear no ill
With Thee, dear Lord, beside me;
Thy rod and staff my comfort still,
Thy cross before to guide me.
Thou spread’st a table in my sight;
Thy unction grace bestoweth;
And O what transport of delight
From Thy pure chalice floweth!
And so through all the length of days
Thy goodness faileth never;
Good Shepherd, may I sing Thy praise
Within Thy house forever.
Daniel Liddell (February 8, 1927 – June 14, 2012)
In this short span of years we define as this life, very few people, should we even be fortunate, will have the kind of impact Daniel Liddell has on numerous persons throughout his earthly sojourn. Born Daniel Wesley, February 8, 1927 in Chicago, the son of an evangelist preacher, the late Rev. Thomas Liddell and a mother full of hospitality and nurture, Adele Liddell, his early ambitions in life included practicing medicine. Before Dan would pursue his desire to be a physician, he developed his skills as a musician accompanying his father’s singing for evangelistic worship.
Brother to the Rev. PL Liddell, and Jeanne Hansen, Dan answered the call of his nation and served in the US Navy during WWII as a Head Surgical Nurse assisting the Navy’s top neurosurgeon. Dan was one of our heroes, having served from 1941-1945, no doubt helping to save countless wounded service personnel. We owe a debt of gratitude to Dan and all who served and continue to serve our nation.
Although medicine would play a large role in his life, the medical career he dreamed of was not in Dan’s future. Suffering a heart attack during his Medical School training at Michigan State University, Dan’s life soon found a new direction which would guide him for the rest of his life. Being adaptable to his circumstances, Dan could look back at that turn of events with humor, remembering how the commotion of his medical trauma had cancelled the chemistry exam to the great pleasure of the rest of his class.
Building on the musical skills he acquired as a youth, Dan began a lifelong journey of learning, teaching, directing and life changing. Beginning his studies at the first Olivet Nazarene College near Georgetown, IL, Dan moved to the Kankakee-Bourbonnais Area with one of the first truckloads of students after the great Olivet fire and the college’s relocation to ONU’s current location.
After completing his degree in 1950, he pursued his masters degree at the University of IL in Champaign. While he was a student he served the University Place Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) and the FourSquare Gospel Church. Returning to this area, Dan began work with Olivet and eventually became head of the voice department.
Dan expanded his reach with his talents in radio and on early Television in Chicago. He was proud of his TV Show Favorites with Danny – a live call-in request your favorite hymn and Dan would play and sing your song for you.
The long hours of teaching and performing and commuting took there toll on Dan and he suffered his second heart attack and found himself in the care of Sister Bernadine of St. Mary’s Hospital whom he credited for saving his life.
While he certainly touched the lives of many during his tenure at Olivet, Dan will perhaps be best remembered for his career as the choral director for Kankakee High School. From developing an award winning choir from just 10 students to begin with, to directing musicals, leading two European trips with the People to People program, Dan left a legacy with his high school students and colleagues that stretches across continents and generations.
His former students have remembered him as one of the major influences in their lives (from the Schreffler Funeral Home Guestbook):
Dan was her “first voice teacher and made an incredible impact on her life”
Mr. Liddell was one of my absolute favorite teachers at Eastridge.
we learned not only how to sing in ensemble but to appreciate life and music and to express respect for each other – valuable lessons at a difficult time for most of us in high school in the ’60’s!!!!
he helped to form the lives of an entire generation through his love of music
What a guiding light Dan Liddell was during those uncertain High School years. Mr Liddell was one of those guiding lights who kept so many, including me, grounded and taught focus and caring for others.
There are only a few people outside my immediate family that I can say truly touched, shaped and influenced my life. And Daniel Liddell was one of those few.
Your teaching skills were inherent, and your enthusiasm so infectious. You were adored by all (including me), and brought us so much joy. You made us the music makers, the dreamers of dreams…
Instilled confidence in you no matter what road you were on.
He was a beautiful man and a constant encourager
His passion for music and touching lives reached beyond the high school and graced our community. One of his colleagues said of Dan, this
“energizer bunny” served as the vocal music director for many of Kankakee Valley Theatre’s early musicals. Together we moved the audiences of KVT from Civic Auditorium to the stage of Lincoln Cultural Center as we produced MAME to sell-out crowds in 1973. The following years we did, George M, The Music Man, Something’s Afoot, and South Pacific. Dan taught music from his heart and soul! His talent was indeed a gift from God, and the way he used that talent was his gift back to God and all others around him.
Daniel Liddell was a life changer,an encourager and a champion of the arts for his former students and our community.
While music blessed his life and was in return a blessing for so many more, building relationships to span many years, companionship in life is often the source of strength and support we rely on as we face the challenges of each and every day. Dan’s life was filled with friends, colleagues, caring nieces and nephews, choir members, and parishioners. And for all of these relationships we offer our gratitude this day.
The word Companion is rooted in two ancient words meaning with and bread. So our companions are those with whom we share our bread, a basic and necessary element of our existence. For more than 50 years, Dan was blessed by the companionship of Ken Bade. Sharing their families, their love for and talents in music, their faith, and their bread, Dan and Ken have been a caring source of strength and support for one another through every turn, struggle, joy, challenge and accomplishment. And Dan could have not been more blessed to have you, Ken as companion, friend, colleague and partner in music and his life.
Choir Rehearsal at Central 2012
Speaking of sharing Bread. Dan loved to eat, by the way. Hardly a day went by without Dan & Ken breaking bread in the dining room of Blues Café, where they knew everyone, costumer and server alike and you all knew them too. And you their friends and community became an enormous extended family.
Of their partnership in music, one newspaper article compared them to Rogers and Hammerstein. Our wider community has lost one of member of our dynamic duo of Liddell and Bade.
Dan was a man of deep faith as well and when his teaching career came to a close, he shared his time and his talents with several local congregations, directing church choirs at First Presbyterian Church of Manteno, St. Mark United Methodist Church, helping with the music at Asbury United Methodist Church, and Directing the Choir of Central Christian Church in Bourbonnais where he directed his 180th Chancel Choir rehearsal on Thursday, June 7th.
Dan graced our congregation at Central with his spirited piano playing, his positive attitude, his love of God and Jesus Christ and his ever encouraging and sometimes even demanding style. He was keenly aware of the gifts and graces of any choir he directed and with great enthusiasm was able to motivate his singers to a new level of melody and harmony.
A former pastor of Central said, What a delight was my friend Dan and what a list of wonderful memories: singing together, sharing in worship at Central Christian, laughing, eating at Blue’s, and being part of his choir, and most of all just enjoying being his friend… his being close as I grieved in personal loss – I first met Dan (and Ken) as an ONU student, oh so many years ago when I was a fledgling singer in Orpheus Choir. There I first admired Dan’s tender spirit, humor, and his beautiful tenor voice that could cling to the tingling high notes… The years have fled quickly, but the love and friendship for my two friends has only grown deeper and more precious. Rev. Dr. Franlkin Garton
And another said, When I think of Dan I remember his unfailing smile, his good humor, his enthusiasm, his love of music, and his desire to enhance that love of music in other people. Rev. Richard Sagarsee
I have been blessed and privileged to be in ministry with Dan and with Ken. Together their unceasing encouragement and care for me has given strength unimaginable. Their patience and adaptability to whatever I brought their way has been amazing. And I was privileged to be with Dan last week as he faced yet another medical challenge. Dan was confident in the Lord and shared his peacefulness with me during our conversations and prayers prior to his surgery last Thursday. It was the graceful way he faced all of life.
Directing the Chancel Choir
“I’ve had the greatest life,” Liddell said contentedly. “Teaching music, if you teach it correctly, you can teach history, languages, mathematics,” he said of his profession.
“So much of success has to do with the work that you are willing to put into it.”
“You can do this, people!”
Paul wrote these words in his second letter to the Corinthians. Finally, brothers and sisters, farewell. Put things in order, listen to my appeal, agree with one another, live in peace; and the God of love and peace will be with you. Amen.
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Geology of the Selk crater region on Titan from Cassini VIMS observations
By: J.M. Soderblom, R.H. Brown, L.A. Soderblom, J.W. Barnes, R. Jaumann, Stéphane Le Mouélic, Christophe Sotin, K. Stephan, K.H. Baines, B.J. Buratti, R.N. Clark, and P.D. Nicholson
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Observations of Titan obtained by the Cassini Visual and Infrared Mapping Spectrometer (VIMS) have revealed Selk crater, a geologically young, bright-rimmed, impact crater located ???800. km north-northwest of the Huygens landing site. The crater rim-crest diameter is ???90. km; its floor diameter is ???60. km. A central pit/peak, 20-30. km in diameter, is seen; the ratio of the size of this feature to the crater diameter is consistent with similarly sized craters on Ganymede and Callisto, all of which are dome craters. The VIMS data, unfortunately, are not of sufficient resolution to detect such a dome. The inner rim of Selk crater is fluted, probably by eolian erosion, while the outer flank and presumed ejecta blanket appear dissected by drainages (particularly to the east), likely the result of fluvial erosion. Terracing is observed on the northern and western walls of Selk crater within a 10-15. km wide terrace zone identified in VIMS data; the terrace zone is bright in SAR data, consistent with it being a rough surface. The terrace zone is slightly wider than those observed on Ganymede and Callisto and may reflect differences in thermal structure and/or composition of the lithosphere. The polygonal appearance of the crater likely results from two preexisting planes of weakness (oriented at azimuths of 21?? and 122?? east of north). A unit of generally bright terrain that exhibits similar infrared-color variation and contrast to Selk crater extends east-southeast from the crater several hundred kilometers. We informally refer to this terrain as the Selk "bench." Both Selk and the bench are surrounded by the infrared-dark Belet dune field. Hypotheses for the genesis of the optically bright terrain of the bench include: wind shadowing in the lee of Selk crater preventing the encroachment of dunes, impact-induced cryovolcanism, flow of a fluidized-ejecta blanket (similar to the bright crater outflows observed on Venus), and erosion of a streamlined upland formed in the lee of Selk crater by fluid flow. Vestigial circular outlines in this feature just east of Selk's ejecta blanket suggest that this might be a remnant of an ancient, cratered crust. Evidently the southern margin of the feature has sufficient relief to prevent the encroachment of dunes from the Belet dune field. We conclude that this feature either represents a relatively high-viscosity, fluidized-ejecta flow (a class intermediate to ejecta blankets and long venusian-style ejecta flows) or a streamlined upland remnant that formed downstream from the crater by erosive fluid flow from the west-northwest. ?? 2010 Elsevier Inc.
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Correlation of melting points of inositols with hydrogen bonding patterns
Alexandra Simperler,a Stephen W. Watt,a P. Arnaud Bonnet,a William Jones*a and W. D. Samuel Motherwell*b
a The Pfizer Institute for Pharmaceutical Materials Science, Department of Chemistry, University of Cambridge, Lensfield Road, Cambridge, UK
E-mail: wj10@cam.ac.uk
Tel: +44 (0)1223-336468
b The Pfizer Institute for Pharmaceutical Materials Science, Cambridge Crystallographic Database Centre, 12 Union Road, Cambridge, UK
E-mail: motherwell@ccdc.cam.ac.uk
The melting points of seven inositol isomers cover a range of 180–350 °C although the only difference between them is the ratio of axially/equatorially orientated hydroxyl groups. All seven isomers feature infinite and finite hydrogen bond patterns and the type and occurrence of these patterns are explored as useful criteria for the prediction of melting points. All the patterns are classified into chain and ring motifs and atomistic and quantum chemical calculations are employed to evaluate the strength of interaction between pairs of molecules contributing to a pattern. There are four types of hydrogen bonded chains with three different types of molecular interactions—one strong and two weak ones. All high melting inositols (scyllo-, neo- and epi-inositol) possess infinite hydrogen bonded double chains with strong links and the number of chains per molecule correlates with their melting points. The lowest melting isomer (allo-inositol) shows no such double chains and only two single hydrogen bonded chains.
https://doi.org/10.1039/B606107A
CrystEngComm, 2006,8, 589-600
A. Simperler, S. W. Watt, P. A. Bonnet, W. Jones and W. D. S. Motherwell, CrystEngComm, 2006, 8, 589
Alexandra Simperler
Stephen W. Watt
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W. D. Samuel Motherwell
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James Trek II - The Wrath of Kwan
The old thread reached 100 posts, about 10 hours later than Cueball predicted.
Worth kicking off with this letter, by Corky Evans
I think that the current, and very public, troubles inside the NDP must be hugely confusing to citizens. In order to try to help folks better understand the debacle I am inclined to try and offer some history about how political parties function in times of stress and how mine (and ours) has functioned over the last few weeks.
Leadership, in any Party, is not a right. Every Leader understands that they serve the Party they lead. Power, of course, is addictive and extremely difficult to abandon. This is true in all institutions from the family to a community group to a company to a political party. Power is also isolating. When we have power we have a position of status and we tend to be surrounded by people who support our status and may even benefit from our position by virtue of their wages or their ambition. Surrounded, as we are by such people, we lose contact with the views of the citizenry at large and need the intervention of others, outside our circle, to tell us what is really going on.
Political parties resolve these contradictions, at least in a democracy, in various ways. One of the most straightforward methods available to help a Leader understand what is happening outside their circle is to have some of the elected people they work with simply go and tell them how things look out on the street. These interventions are universally "in confidence" and, to my knowledge, have rarely ever been discussed outside of the circle of people actually involved in the discussion. An MLA who meets with their Leader to suggest that the Leader needs to consider moving on in life has to be tremendously brave. The Leader does not have to agree with them and can make their life difficult in future. Obviously, the discussion works best when the Member is trusted by the Leader so that the Leader can believe that the Member is not acting out of ambition or malice.
The Leader can, of course, decide to accept the advice of the Member or decide the Member is wrong and stay on. Regardless of the outcome, however, we who were not in the meeting never hear about the exchange because it is never in the best interest of the Party to have their internal discussions made public.
In 1986, when I was a candidate and prior to the election, I was asked to sign such a letter to Bob Skelly, suggesting that he resign as Leader. I declined, but others (I believe) signed the letter and (I believe) MLA's delivered it. If such a letter and meeting actually happened, Bob Skelly, as was his right, chose to disregard the letter and the request to step down. I have never seen the letter and do not know who the MLA's were, as it has always been treated as an "in confidence" occurrence. I know none of this to absolutely true because, correctly, none of it has been discussed with me by any of the participants.
Same thing with Mike Harcourt. (I believe) a group of MLA's visited Mike to discuss their wish that he resign in order to make the Nanaimo "bingogate" scandal go away for the good of the Party. He chose to take the advice but, because it was a private meeting, I do not know if such a meeting took place or who went to see him or what they said. I was part of that government and I do not know, and have not asked, what private communications took place prior to Mike's resignation.
Same thing with Glen Clark. I believe MLA's suggested to Glen that he resign. Glen (as was his right) chose to resist the request and then was forced to step down by virtue of actions by the Attorney General. As with both Bob Skelly and Mike Harcourt, private discussions with Glen by MLA's who (may have) asked him to resign remain "in confidence" to this day. I was part of that government and I do not know, and have not asked, what private communications took place prior to Glen's resignation.
For all I know, similar meetings have taken place between Socred MLA's and Bill Bennett Jr.and/or Bill Van derZalm, and Liberal MLA'S and Gordon Wilson, and/or Gordon Campbell. The point being that MLA's of all Parties have always had the right to request of their Leader that they resign or submit to a Leadership review and those discussions have always been, and should always remain, private. The Leader can decide to step down or decide to remain in office. Everyone involved, however, always understands the assumption of "confidence" involved in the process. It is also important to understand that when these kind of private meetings have happened in the past, they are most likely to happen with Members who personally like the Leader. Members who wish to personally replace the Leader or have antipathy for Leader do not attend because their motives would be suspect. These are private meetings to discuss a private issue raised in the best interest of the Party in question, not the personal feelings or ambitions of the people in the meeting.
Precisely in keeping with this historical tradition, a group of New Democrat MLA's came to the conclusion a few weeks back that it was time to hold a Leadership convention.
A small group of those MLA's took a letter signed by the others and themselves, to a private meeting with their Leader. Both the letter and the meeting were private. It was assumed that they would always remain private, because that is the way that it has always been done.
In keeping with historical tradition the Leader had the absolute right to consider their intervention and decide to take their advice or reject it.
For the first time in history (that I know of) Carole James chose to respond in a different, and utterly unpredictable manner. She advised others in her Caucus and staff what had happened and named the MLA's who had come, in confidence, to see her and then proceeded to turn the upcoming Provincial Council meeting into an opportunity to divide the signatories of the letter, and their supporters, from the rest of the Party.
The Provincial Council of the NDP is a wonderful institution. Alone (as far as I know) the NDP understands that democracy inside the Party requires that constituencies have the right to run the Party and oversee it's activities. In spite of the huge financial costs involved the NDP representatives of every constituency in the Province come together a few times a year to debate issues and hear reports from their committees and their Leader and to meet with their MLA's.
I was honored, recently, to have been elected as a delegate to Provincial Council by the constituency of West Kootenay. A meeting of the Provincial Council was scheduled to occur a few days after the meeting between Carole James and the MLA's who had asked her to consider calling for a leadership convention. .
As we walked into the hotel the morning of the Provincial Council meeting, staff members stood in the hallway outside the meeting room and gave yellow scarves to everyone EXCEPT the folks they knew had signed or delivered the letter, and a few of the rest of us they figured might support the 13 signatories. The result was surreal. It was also the most divisive thing I have ever witnessed in our Party. The MLA's who had NOT signed the letter asking Carol to resign were identified, in front of their peers and the Press, as Loyal and Good. Thus, the folks WITHOUT yellow scarves were immediately and publically identified as Disloyal and Bad.
It was awful. It was so unprecedented and unexpected (deriving, as it did, from a respectful and private meeting that everyone involved, except Carole, had intended to remain Private regardless of how she decided to respond) that none of us knew how to react, or feel, or think.
The meeting opened, as they all do, with a reading of the Party's Harassment Policy. If I, or any of us, had had our wits about us, we would have responded by pointing out that the scarves, themselves, constituted Harassment of the worst kind. I am sorry to say that this appropriate response didn't occur to me until some days later.
I think it fair to say that some of the present trauma can be said to have begun with the expulsion of Bob Simpson from the NDP Caucus. To many of the constituency associations in the Province, Bob's expulsion constituted a symbol of the erosion of democratic principles that allow members of the Caucus or the Party to express their thoughts. Thus, constituencies (including the one I had come to represent) had sent in motions urging the reinstatement of Bob Simpson.
The motions urging the Leader to reinstate Bob Simpson were declared unconstitutional. It was determined, by the President, that the Party had no constitutional right to comment on that issue. This change to the agenda was simply wrong. Nobody in that room had wanted to "instruct" the Leader how to do her job. The motion simply said the Leader be "urged" to reinstate Bob Simpson. The Party has the right to "urge" the Leader to do anything they want. We could "urge" the Leader to stand on her head for an hour a day if we wanted, and she has the perfect right to ignore the advice if she sees it as wrong thinking or not in the best interest of herself or her Caucus or her Party. It is certainly unconstitutional for members of Provincial council to "instruct" or "demand" that the Leader take some action. It cannot, however, be unconstitutional to simply give advice. If advice from the members is unwelcome or unacceptable, then what is the Party for except to function as an electoral machine?
I can only guess that the President and the Executive did not want to have the motion concerning Bob Simpson to see the light of day so they declared it Unconstitutional and then voted down a challenge of the Chair, to make their judgment stick.
Yesterday, Jenny Kwan asked publically that her Leader call a Leadership Convention. She suggested that if Carol wants to keep her job that she ask for a mandate to do so in a "one member, one vote" open forum. I cannot imagine (and I have tried) how this difficulty, could be resolved otherwise.
Carole James has done something I never heard of before, which is to publicize and castigate MLA's who, rightly or wrongly, thought they were acting in confidence and in the best interests of their Party. She could have told them they were wrong and stayed in her job. That has been done before in parliamentary democracies, probably hundreds of times. She could have accepted their advice and stepped down as Leader, perhaps while remaining as an MLA. That, too, has happened before, probably hundreds of times. Instead, she chose to do something that I have never heard of before (no doubt there is some historical precedent somewhere, although I don't know about it and I can't imagine that it turned out well) and publicly attacked those who came to her in confidence.
I don't care if Carole wants to keep her job or not. Neither do I think this trouble is "about" Carole personally. I have, as probably every citizen does, thoughts about her leadership skill and style and believe they are irrelevant to the discourse. This is now about the democratization, or not, of how we do politics. It does not appear to be an issue that is limited to the NDP or even to B.C. I have heard similar thoughts about the erosion of democratic process and about the centralized control of political parties of late from members of the B.C. Liberal Party, the Federal Liberal Party, and the Alberta Conservative Party. It could be that this is a moment in our history when the political process is broken and reform and renewal are on the horizon.
As a New Democrat, I am heartsick at the troubles and I fervently wish Carol James had not orchestrated the public division of her Caucus. As a citizen, I am hopeful that the democratic process in Canada is being reborn. As her friend and supporter, I will go where Jenny Kwan goes, come what may.
Corky Evans
Sad to say, but I know a historical precedent.
And I'm pretty reluctant to get into it. But maybe its useful.
Maybe someone could see that Corky hears about this.
A similar thing happened in the Nova Scotia NDP, the outcome of which was that now Premeir Dexter became the Leader.
Despite his continued popularity, Robert Chisholm resigned as Leader after the dissapointing drubbing of the 1999 election. In the delegated Convention Helen MacDonald was elected Leader. Helen had lost her seat, which was a notch againts her, but obviously not decisive.
There were 2 possible seats for a by-election. The seat in Cape Breton vacated by the former Liberal Premier. But also the only safe NDP seat there was at the time, the Halifax seat opened by the death of the friend of Helen and a lot of us.
During her leadership run Helen had promised to run for a seat in Cape Breton. She was strenuously [but not publicly] urged to run for the safe seat in Halifax. As we all know, this is common for Leaders without seats, and its not like Helens supporters in Cape Breton were going to be deeply disspapointed. She chose to run for the Cape Breton seat, the party of course put everything in, and Helen came in third. This was such a humiliation. She was treated as an instant lame duck by the press [who are not hostile to us]. It was widely assumed she would soon do the right thing. And she got that private visit like Corky talks about, to which she answered very unequivocaly that she was staying, come what may.
A firestorm broke out within the party. This is before the Internet, and before everyone had email, so most of that was on the phone. With Caucus members of course talking among themselves.
Very little word at all got to the press. And absolutely nothing, not even speculation, about particular Caucus members.
Six MLAs [out of 11?] decided that they wanted to go together to meet Helen MacDonald. Before she was formally called by one of them, she got word of their intention. And she outed them. There was no meeting.
I dont remember how long this went on. Couldnt have been more than a few weeks. Council is quarterly and happened to be meeting.
The Council meeting was unforgettable. Traumatic for everyone. But Helen MacDonald maintained she was staying.
Then with no prior word, not long after, she quit.
While there are some similarities in the basic power dynamics, there are a lot of differences in the two cases.
The BC NDP is a pressure cooker even at the best of times compared to the NS NDP. For all the nastiness, whih carried on for another year plus, we could in many ways still carry this on as a family feud more or less out of sight. Thats not possible in BC.
The other similarity of course is the narrative of loyalty and that the Leader has a right to stay until she chooses otherwise. As if those are absolutes, even though everyone knows they are not.
This weekend Caucus is not going to settle anything, unless the dissidents decide to throw in the towel completely.
And at this point, how likely is that?
What is really happening is that its just another line drawn in the sand. James and company trying to pretend this is it.
It isnt over until one side or the other declares they have lost. It cant go on like this forever, but neither is ready to back down.
Unless the dissidents completely and unequivocaly surrender, it looks like more of them will be booted out of Caucus.
Which then just becomes the next stage of the same stalemate.
First the James gang, unprecedented in BC, outed the people who don't feel the BC NDP can win the next election with James as Leader.
The James gang is now on a full court press to squash the dissidents
And now the James gang are going to punish them - good luck with that one.
The only people who are going to ultimately be punished will be the party hierarchy. And rightly so.
Kwan is on right track in wanting NDP leader out
http://www.canada.com/Kwan+right+track+wanting+leader/3922283/story.html
Jenny Kwan may have struck "fatal blow" on NDP Leader Carole James, Bob Simpson says
http://www.straight.com/article-362174/vancouver/jenny-kwan-may-have-str...
Island MLA joins chorus seeking NDP leadership convention
http://www.timescolonist.com/news/Island+joins+chorus+seeking+leadership...
It isnt over until one side or the other declares they have lost.
As if that isnt a sticky enough place, its more complicated than that.
On the James side, its over if Carole James quits.
On the dissidents side, it isnt just the MLAs. So even if none of them is willing to leave Caucus, that 'side' has only lost when the really vocal grumbling in the party stops.
[To make that concrete: the kind of grumbling after the election is tolerable; but more than that and out in public means that people have not given up the battle and the stalemate continues.]
In practice, what Carole James is demanding is not only loyalty from MLAs, she is demanding that her whole party stop talking about her being an albatross.
Which Liberal wrote this article?
Mutiny shows James has lost her clout
http://www.timescolonist.com/news/Mutiny+shows+James+lost+clout/3922353/...
Trevena would prefer a leadership convention
http://www.canada.com/Trevena+would+prefer+leadership+convention/3920872...
Quite the way to spin that article linked in #8, NR.
Also, quite the spin aboe to say Carole took it puplic, when it was Kwan who wrote the BS press release.
Lost what remaining respect I had for Corky. Though admittedly there was very little left anyway, given his pout, and taking the ball home, after losing the leadership race.
In 1986, when I was a candidate and prior to the election, I was asked to sign such a letter to Bob Skelly, suggesting that he resign as Leader. I declined, but others (I believe) signed the letter and (I believe) MLA's delivered it. If such a letter and meeting actually happened, Bob Skelly, as was his right, chose to disregard the letter and the request to step down. I have never seen the letter and do not know who the MLA's were, as it has always been treated as an "in confidence" occurrence.
It looks like the guy responsible for that attempted palace coup back in '86 also might be behind this palace coup. Remember Bob Williams?
Williams Denounces James
NDP Eminence Says Kwan Is Bringing Fresh Air To Politics
By Vaughn Palmer, Vancouver Sun December 3, 2010
He stood toward the back of the room at the recent meeting of the New Democratic Party governing council, chatting up the MLAs who'd made a point of not donning the yellow scarves to show their support for the party leader.
Bob Williams. An eminence, albeit a controversial one, for five decades within the NDP, and now literally grey. He'll turn 78 next month, having been first elected to the legislature in 1966 as a firebrand, particularly on issues involving Crown land and resources.
Never having supported James in the first place, he recently announced she had to go.
Not for the first time did he thus become part of a revolt against an NDP leader.
His history in that regard came up Thursday, on the Bill Good show on radio station CKNW. Keith Baldrey from Global TV had brought up Williams' emerging role in the challenge to James.
He'd been a mentor to MLA Jenny Kwan and may well have encouraged her to go public with this week's no-holds-barred attack on James, Baldrey speculated. He also reminded the radio audience how Williams had tried to put the knife into a previous leader, Bob Skelly, on the eve of the 1986 election.
Next thing we knew (I was also on the show, though a bystander on this point) Williams himself was on the line. "I wonder if he [Baldrey] might repeat what he had to say, because I think some of it was incorrect."
There ensued a marvellous exchange in which Williams not only confirmed his role in the revolt against James, he expanded on it.
Williams had called for James' head? "Yes," he said. He'd been part of the effort to force out Skelly? Yes, again. He'd been at the council meeting where the dissidents took on James? Yes, a third time.
He then proceeded to bolster suspicions of his mentoring role, professing to be "overjoyed" with Kwan: "What she is bringing to this whole equation is no more spin, no more secrecy and at last some fresh air in a world of politics.
"And Jenny is right," he continued, scything into James. "The party has been ossified, with a leader that is managed by bureaucrats. She ended up throwing [MLA Bob] Simpson out for a modest statement that she gave a boring speech.
"Damn it, she almost always gives a boring speech. Telling the truth is reason to throw a person out of caucus? That's kind of sick. And doing it just because she and her managers wanted her to look tough and draw a line in the sand. That's nothing less than disgusting in terms of spitting on the democratic process."
Did Williams have a candidate in mind to replace the managed-by-bureaucrats leader and her sick and disgusting ways? "I don't know." What about the rumour that he's counting on party president Moe Sihota to seek the job should James vacate? " No, I don't have any candidate at all."
Still he believes a leadership race is just the ticket: "This is a glorious opportunity for the NDP to fight about what it really cares about and then give people something to vote for in the next election."
Contrast the Williams view of the merits of a leadership revolt with the perspective of one of his co-conspirators in the attempt to oust Bob Skelly. The late Rosemary Brown, who was then an MLA, joined Williams and several others in the attempt to force Skelly to step aside on the eve of the 1986 election. The attempt failed and the NDP went on to lose the election.
Three years later, with the wounds still fresh, Brown wrote about the episode in Being Brown, a memoir. While insisting that the failed coup was not the deciding factor in an election the party would have lost anyway, she did concede that it was both mistaken and damaging.
"Our challenge was weak and futile and in the end may have indeed hurt the fortunes of the party," wrote Brown. "Very rarely does a political party win an election while it is hemorrhaging internally."
Nevertheless, Williams, Kwan and the others would appear to have concluded that another internal hemorrhage is just what the doctor ordered.
Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Williams+denounces+James/3921397/story....
NDP's cookie crumbling fast
Carole James should follow Campbell's example
http://www.theprovince.com/opinion/cookie+crumbling+fast/3921101/story.h...
NDP party loyalists agree with Jenny Kwan
Some New Democrat faithful also want new leader
When the longest-serving NDP MLA demands a change at the helm, people take notice. Jenny Kwan's call for a leadership review is getting attention on local streets.
There are always party loyalists - the faithful who would never waver - and traditionally, the NDP has had its share. We met one of those today, a man who calls himself a "union man." Even he believes Kwan's call for change at the top may be just what the party needs to generate more popular appeal.
He tells us, "You wear out your welcome, and you've got to replace it with something new, because otherwise you'll get mowed down again. That's just natural progress."
http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/151839--ndp-party-loyalists-a...
Cueball
West Coast Greeny wrote:
I was counting on some regulars who were MIA.
ByronToronto
Does anyone have a list of the 13 MLA that were with Carole at her news conference and the 3 that called in?
Gag, with a little puke in the back of my throat, goes to figure, eh, stupidity once held and through which he played the role of destroyer, has never been learned from.
If you ever wondered what W.A.C. Bennett meant when he said the NDP "couldn't run a peanut stand,"
Would that be the same W.A.C. Bennett that gave the Yanks a sweetheart deal on Columbia River power dams?
"Nothing is freer than free, my friends! Those dams won't cost the taxpayers of B.C. one penny!"
Bennett was right, the dams didn't cost British Columbians one penny. They cost BCers hundreds of millions of dollars.
ByronToronto wrote:
At the bottom of this post is the Youtube video of the news conference and I can make out:
1. Mable Elmore
2. Raj Chouhan
3. Mike Farnworth
4. Adrian Dix
5. Rob Flemming
6. Dawn Black
7. Bruce Ralston
8. Kathy Corrigan
9. Spencer Chandra Herbert
10. Maureen Karagianis
11. Harry Bains
12. Diane Thorne
13. Sue Hammell
BTW, here's the news conference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRnA-VOwfqc&feature=player_embedded#!
Lou Arab
Just wanted to say I like the name of this thread.
Really? I think it sucks, for a variety of reasons.
Snert
I think that the current, and very public, troubles inside the NDP must be hugely confusing to citizens.
No, not really. With the Liberal party at a low point and a potential election on the horizon, now is precisely the right time for infighting and drama, isn't it?
Quick aside: Carole James voted AGAINST Proportional Representation??? Seriously????
Having Farnworth and Hammell onside is pretty significant. They were both first-elected before Kwan did. While they lost their seats in '01, they each has as many years in caucus as Kwan does.
But then I guess so does Harry Lali.
Only 25% of Liberal Party supporters voted for STV.
Take a wild guess as to which old line party in British Columbia killed STV.
Catchfire
I guess the Liberals. What do I win?
I also like the name of the thread (obv). Is there room for more Star Trek puns? James' Quirk: The Search for Schlock?
I see lots of places for classic lines from Star Wars.
Luke. .. I am your father.
[and Lukes response to the startling news]
Guess who is DV, and who is Luke.
Remind you do realize you are now aligned with Adrian Dix, Moe Sihota, David Schreck, Mike Farnworth and Bruce Ralston. Can you say old boys network? These people are not Carole"s friends and they are not democrats. They will support her but only until they are ready to dump her so one of them can win the leadership. This is not just a game being played out at the one level of Carole versus the dissidents.
I wonder about Elmore being in that camp but like you she may be supporting Carole in solidarity as a fellow non-white woman. Or she may be hoping to make a serious run for the leadership and move up the ranks of the party to cabinet by sticking with the people who control the party levers.
Speaking of the James Gang is this a Funk #49.
I know I'm dating myself but if they don't change their ways then there will be trouble brewing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_qHU_6Ofc0
Elmore is a hardcore Union activist. She probably hates James, however she is certainly sticking with the leadership in solidarity on principle. I would probably not show up at James's press conference, but I would be hard pressed to support the push to oust James openly, especially since there is supposed to be a leadership convention in 2011.
I can't say anyone is looking really good here. Ultimately James is to blame, since obviously she can't build a consensus in here caucus, or keep them under control, or appease them. Booting Simpson in the manner she did was very heavy handed, and didn't seem to include any process except her decision. So, the accusations seem well founded. This would not be happening to a leader who deserved that leadership.
On the other hand I am not sure the manner that the opposition is using to make this change is the most productive either. Myself, I would probably try and stay out of it.
Cueball wrote:
Elmore is a hardcore Union activist. She prpbably hates James, however she is certainly sticking with the leadership in solidarity on principle.
I actually think her community activism was what won her the election while her union, peace and GLBT activism won her the nomination. The power of being grounded in her community made the difference in her election. In all of those areas she was a grass roots person not an elitist left wing bureaucrat.
Mable Elmore was elected MLA for Vancouver-Kensington on May 12, 2009. She is currently deputy critic for Children and Family Development and Child Care.
Mable is a community activist who has been working hard on progressive causes for over two decades. She has been a transit operator for 10 years, driving a bus in Metro Vancouver while taking a strong role in her union, the Canadian Auto Workers Local 111, where she is coordinating the “More Buses Now” campaign to improve public bus transit.
Mable is a second generation Filipino-Canadian who has also been active in the peace movement and on immigrant, social justice, women’s and gay, lesbian and transgendered issues.
Well yeah, but isnt there an existing process and an leadership convention scheduled for 2011?
There is a leadership review scheduled for 2011.
But as noted, that was deliberately scheduled to be empty. If you mean a review, you have it right after an election.
Fall 2011 does not just merely fail that- it is placed where it is least likely to allow a serious challenge to develop.
A leadership review in 2011 followed by a leadership convention means early 2012 maybe is when the NDP would be ready for the next election.
However the new Premier will not wait that long. The constitution of Canada was not changed by setting a date for elections, just ask Harper. Any fix required is within the jurisdiction of the majority of the Leg. And of course Gordo was forced to step down in the face of overwhelming opposition. Does the NDP really want to try arguing the BC Liberals have the legitimacy and are REQUIRED to govern for their whole term.
That would be as stupid as having some unions pay Moe a stipend to be President of a party that is avowedly not controlled by unions.
So both Cue and kropotkin are stating that Elmore is a hyprocrit shill, as well as a toady. Nice!
When the convention adopted that date no one and I mean no one would have predicted both a Liberal win and then a collapse within months to the point where the leader had to resign to save his party from extinction. Failing to adapt to changing circumstances is a sign of very poor political judgement. If the convention had been given this scenario and asked when should there be a review I am sure the date would not be in the middle of the four year semi-fixed election cycle.
I didn't say that. What I said, is that she probably came down on the side of solidarity with the leadership, regardless of her personal feelings. I don't know what her personal feelings really are, but on the point of her being attacked for her Israeli comments, and her history it does not seem to me that she would have a lot in common with James.
There is nothing wrong with acting on the basis of solidarity, simply for the sake of it. She may think its the best strategic choice, regardless of here opinions.
remind wrote:
Remind please show some respect to your allies. Either quote me on that obnoxious piece of vitriol you posted or retract it.
Remind please show some respect to your allies.
This is fucking hilarious putting the onus on me to show respect for alleged "allies".
Respect is a 2 way street.
And "allies" apparently is a cheap word these days. Also, do you not see an issue with your telling me what to do?
Here ya go kropotkin.....
That can translate into nothing else, especially given the fact that she stood beside Carole at the press conference yesterday, and gave her a huge hug when it was all over and Carole was leaving the podium.
If you follow your line of reasoning, which is just worded differently than Cue's, then that means she is being a hyprocrit by supporting James in a very public manner, hug notwithstanding either. As well as an opportunistic toady, by aligning herself with those you consider the old boys network who control the party levers, and who you consider are part of the problem, which thereby renders her union and activist credentials null and void, as she would have to throw them aside, along with her personal values, in order to move herself up the ladder.
In Cue's case, he went further, as he stated that he knows Elmore would have nothing to do with James, given the fact Elmore was "forced" to apologize. First of all, he was speaking for Elmore, and thereby taking her voice (a no no), which then depicts her unfavourabley, as a hyprocrit and toady, given her solid support of James and the huge hug she gave James just yesterday.
In conclusion, this of course would mean, that Elmore too would be under 'their control', as you say James is.
So....as you can see, both of you actually depicted Elmore in a very unfavourable light. And Cue went so far as to take her voice.
[sarcastic aside] btw depicting me as being aligned with those you list, is really also very progressive of you. As is making it seem that perhaps I and Mabel are only aligned with Carole, as she is a woman of colour. Thanks for the mansplaining and manknowing [/sarcastic tone]
No I didn't say that. What I said was:
I never said I know anything about Elmore. I came to some possible conlusions based on their previous history together.
I then went on to clarify, saying:
I certainly didn't call her a "hypocrite". I reasoned that there were plenty of good reasons to come down on the side of party solidarity besides how she feels about James, and that there really are good reasons to stick with James. My point about being a union activist, is that unlike many other kinds of political activists, unionists are generally more aware of issues of solidatiry.
Unionists are expected to back the executive of the union publically, regardless of how they feel about the executive, and there are plenty of good reasons for this, none of which have anything to do with how one personally feels about the leadership.
I concluded by saying:
There is nothing wrong with acting on the basis of solidarity, simply for the sake of it. She may think its the best strategic choice, regardless of her opinions.
There is nothing hypocritical about taking a stand for strategic as opposed to political reasons. You really couldn't have a party of any kind if people just decided to support the party only if one agreed with the party on each and every issue.
There's a degree of irony here.
Sorry Cue, I stand by what I stated, you came back later and stated you meant other but in essence re-iterated what you said before.
To my mind there is no difference between "probably hated" and 'having nothing to do with', only mine is a softened version of yours...and it is a depiction of what YOU believe their former relationship was, or what you believed it should be, not what it actually is and was. Thus you took her voice, as you do not actually KNOW what their former relationship was, nor do you KNOW if she hated James, you inferred everything based upon your internal beliefs. Giving a rider later that you do not actually know means little, as you really stood by your belief that you do know that she is hiding her beliefs because of "solidarity".
Strategic choice = going against her convictions to further herself.
Really? Please do explain why...
Though given your characterization of Kwan being a crazy, if not a sociopathic alien and James as being a B grade actor that played the role of a fickle womanizer, maybe not.
No...on further thought, I really would like to see why you see irony in this.
No. I never said James was a hypocrite. The only assertion I made about her political views on James was that she "probably hates James". I certainly did not say I "know" anything for a fact. I only made some hypotheticals based on what I know of James and Elmore's politics. And I certainly said nothing about her taking this stand for self-interest.
As to your last point, solidarity is also a conviction.
-No. I never said James was a hypocrite.
Never said you did, I said you inferred Elmore is. This was done by your depiction of her based upon your internalized vision of her, and actually, their politics, not facts on the ground.
The only assertion I made about her political views on James was that she "probably hates James". I certainly did not say I "know" anything for a fact. I only made some hypotheticals based on what I know of James and Elmore's politics. And I certainly said nothing about her taking this stand for self-interest.
Exactly my point, you made hypotheticals based on your own beliefs, not what you know of either of them. Thus taking Elmore's voice and placing yours there instead.
Solidarity does not include hugs. Nor does hate.
I never said any such thing. Everything else you have said is also what seems to be an intentional effort to misrepresent what I have said.
In fact, I was saying that supporting the party leadership at this time, on the principle of party unity and solidarity is an understandable position, regardless of how one feels about James -- it is a political and strategic choice, and not necessarily a bad one, since the conflict is basically about what is strategically best for the party, at this time.
I certainly didn't say it was immoral or showed a deficit of charachter.
I think this is a over-simplistic analysis of why these people back Carole. I think for people like Dix and Farnworth, backing Carole in this battle is perfectly logitical given their inclination to distance themselves from the more traditional leftist stances.
I too do wonder about Elmore.
Vansterdam Kid
Wow, people are hypothesizing on a message board. Imagine that.
Well, you can feel that way all you want Cue, but I am not trying to misrepresent anything, you and kropotkin are inferring things about Elmore based upon yourselves and your beliefs of what her behaviour and actions might be.
The history that you both have contempt for James and those who are allegedly controlling her, provide the foundation of a disparaging pictorial of Elmore and her actions for supporting James.
Neither of your historical comments are stand alone to this occasion. They can't be. Nor can your giving hypotheticals of what you believe Elmore is doing, as if they were fact.
Anyhow, I bear no ill regard towards you about it, I just wish you would stop infering others, especially women, would act and believe as you do.
Convention did not adopt that date prior to the election (and did not exactly adopt that date at all except in the timing of the next Convention). The constitution wasn't changed until the last Convention, otherwise there would have been no way to prevent one then.
11.03 At every Convention that is not a Leadership Convention a secret ballot vote will be held among
Convention delegates to determine whether or not a leadership election should be called. If 50% plus
one delegate supports the calling of a leadership election, such an election will be held within one
year of the Convention vote. This Section may be waived by Provincial Executive when there is a
general provincial election that would not allow sufficient time to comply with the time frame set out.
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Long service awards and retirements at Macduff Lifeboat Station
Sunday 3 February 2019
Two retirements, four long service awards mark 163 years of service
RNLI/Mike Rawlins
L-R John Ingram, Colin Wood, Chassey Findlay, John West, Derek Mair
Over 160 years of service to the Royal National Lifeboat Institution was celebrated by the crew and families from Macduff Lifeboat Station at a private dinner in January. At the dinner held at the Banff Springs Hotel, two crew members retired and four crew members were awarded RNLI long service badges.
Speaking before the dinner, Roy Morrison Lifeboat Operations Manager at Macduff RNLI said: ‘The RNLI has a long and proud history of saving lives at sea along the coast of North Aberdeenshire and we couldn’t do our lifesaving work without dedicated volunteers like those we are going to award this evening’.
First to be recognised for his 33 years service to Macduff Lifeboat Station was John Ingram, who retired from his role as Deputy Launching Authority (DLA) at the end of 2018.
John joined Macduff Lifeboat in 1985 as a member of the Shore Crew where he served until 2006 when he stood down and took on the role of Deputy Launching Authority.
The second retirement to be recognised was that of William ‘John’ West who retired after 32 years of service.
John West was the Harbourmaster at Macduff and ideally placed to be a DLA for the lifeboat. John joined in 1986 and was DLA until 1990 when he became the Honorary Secretary for Macduff RNLI, a position he held until 2000 after which he returned to being one of the stations DLAs.
The first of the Long Service Medals was presented to Derek Mair who decided to stand down after 20 years service.
Derek joined the Shore Crew at Macduff in 1998. During his service Derek was one of the Launch & Recovery vehicle drivers and plant operators. From 2014 Derek was the Launch & Recovery Plant Mechanic at the station.
Speaking after the presentations Roy Morrison added: ‘collectively these three guys have dedicated 85 years’ service to the RNLI, for that we are truly grateful and appreciate all that they have done during their time at Macduff.
‘We wish them all the best in their retirement and look forward to seeing them from time to time at the station.’
Colin Wood was the next recipient of a Long Service Medal.
Colin joined the lifeboat in 1997 and has been Shore Crew and Boat Crew during this time. Colin was presented with a 20 year long service medal by Coxswain Chassey Findlay who said: ‘Colin is a safe pair of hands both onshore and on the boat, you know you can rely on Colin whatever the circumstances.’
The final Long Service Medal presented on the night was to Macduff RNLI Lifeboat Coxswain Andrew ‘Chassey’ Findlay who was presented with a 30 year medal by Roy Morrison.
Chassey joined the Boat Crew at Macduff in 1987 and during his 32 years with the RNLI he has been a constant member of the Boat Crew. In 1990 he became the Helmsman a role he still holds along with being the stations Inshore Lifeboat Maintenance Mechanic 1994 – current and a RNLI Training Assessor 2003 – current
David Park was unable to attend the dinner and was presented with his 20 year Long Service Medal at the station a few days later by Area Lifesaving Manager, Henry Weaver.
David joined the Boat Crew in 1995 and quickly reached the level of Helmsman which he maintained until 2015 when he stood down and joined the Shore Crew.
Roy Morrison said of the long service awards: ‘Colin Wood, David Park and Andrew Findlay all joined the lifeboat service as young lads and between them they have served the RNLI for almost 80 years’ their commitment and continued dedication to the service is commendable’.
‘They are all volunteers and are ordinary people who do extraordinary things and without them the RNLI wouldn’t be the service that it is today’.
Chassey Findlay said: ‘with over 160 years of volunteering service between us it is testament not only to the character of the volunteers but also the RNLI, as the charity that saves lives at sea, they make sure that we are supported, equipped and trained so when the worst happens at sea we are ready and able to help people in need.’
He continued: ‘While tonight was about long service medals and retirements, we cannot go without mentioning all the other volunteers at Macduff who give their time selflessly every week for training and drop everything when the pagers go off. The younger crew members are training and learning all the time and I am confident that Macduff Lifeboat will be in safe hands for many years to come.’
• John West & John Ingram were presented with certificates of service from the RNLI and tide clocks from the crew.
• David Park was not able to attend the dinner due to being held offshore by inclement weather
• John West 32 years service
• John Ingram 33 years service
• Derek Mair 20 years service
• Colin wood 22 years service
• David Park 24 years service
• Chassey Findlay 32 years service
• RNLI Macduff lifeboat B-804 Lydia Macdonald is a B class Atlantic 85 which carries 4 crew
• Lydia Macdonald is unique within the RNLI being the only lifeboat that is launched from a mobile crane. This method of launch allows the lifeboat to be launched from other locations should the need arise
RNLI media contacts
Mike Rawlins RNLI volunteer Lifeboat Press Officer Macduff Lifeboat Station 07720 288366 or mike_rawlins@rnli.org.uk
Gemma McDonald, Regional Media Manager (Scotland), 07826 900639 or gemma_mcdonald@rnli.org.uk
Martin Macnamara, Regional Media Officer (Scotland), 07920 365929 or martin_macnamara@rnli.org.uk
Retiring DLA John Ingram being presented with his gift from the crew by David Paterson
Retiring DLA John West being presented with his service certificate by Coxswain Chassey Findlay
David Park receiving his 20 year Long Service Medal from Area Lifesaving Manager Henry Weaver at Macduff Lifeboat Station
Macduff RNLI Lifeboat Crew
Mike Rawlins
Lifeboat Press Officer, Macduff Lifeboat Station
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Halfords forced to discount 'Britain's most affordable e-bike'; University funding research to warn cyclists of ice via an app; Dublin taxi driver admits he was wrong; Freeman QC wants charges thrown out; Mansfield cycling 'crackdown' +more in the Live
by Jack Sexty November 22 2019
All today's news from the site and beyond.....
Welcome to Friday's live blog, with Jack Sexty, Alex Bowden and the rest of the team.
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University of Birmingham looking for a PhD student to develop warning system for cyclists riding on icy roads
The University of Birmingham are recruiting a PhD student to develop a warning system for cyclists using routes that may contain particularly dodgy icy sections.
UoB want the researcher to use The Internet of Things - a data network system that can transfer data over a network without requiring human-to-human or human-to-computer interaction - to develop the tech and reduce the number of accidents caused by cyclists getting injured due to ice, saying: "There is a need to work towards reducing these incidents to not only improve the safety of cyclists and reduce the injury burden on hospitals, but also to assist in the promotion of the mode of transport as a healthy and economic alternative for travel.
"This PhD will provide a solution to this problem by using the Internet of Things to produce an ice warning system for cyclists and deliver new insights about winter cycling habits."
UoB say the project will take the wintersense road surface temperature sensor - already developed by the University - and modify for direct use on a bike. The sensor will connect, via an app, to the cyclists phone and issue audible warnings when an ice risk is present.
The timeline for the project will see a modification of the wintersense sensor for use on a bike completed in year one, an app and cloud solution developed in year two and data analysis with insights into winter cycling habits completed by the third year.
Road positioning row taxi driver changes his tune
You may recall our story of a Dublin taxi driver who tweeted a picture criticising a cyclist’s road positioning... and got a bit more than he bargained for when the very same cyclist replied to his post with footage of the same incident shot from the rear-facing camera on his bike.
However in a further truly shocking update, things have took an amicable, friendly and altogether heart-warming turn...
Yes I definitely have gathered more insight as to why a cyclist would position themselves here and I thank Alan for posting his side
— TaxiMatt (@Taximattdublin) November 21, 2019
One of the few incidents where point-scoring and arguing on Twitter appears to have worked out for the best... safe journey Taxi Matt!
Elinor Barker talks about her years suffering with endometriosis
Welsh road and track cyclist Barker, who currently rides for Team Drops, told The Telegraph about the pain and illness she often suffered as a result of endometriosis, which causes tissue that is similar to the lining of the womb to start forming in places such as the ovaries and fallopian tubes. It also took years to diagnose because of its similarity with other conditions.
Barker said: “Yeah, it wasn’t really nice feeling ill all the time. Or being in pain and constantly having to think about it and having it affect training sessions.
"It’s not completely gone and the idea is that I'll have surgery again in a few years. It does still affect me from time to time and but not so much that I think anyone else would notice.
"By 2017 I was going to doctors weekly, saying something is not right, I'm not accepting this is just periods.
"A few doctors said 'this is just something you need to put up with.' I thought I don’t think I can. I don’t want to be going through life with this kind of pain, never mind racing at a high level."
Barker eventually underwent keyhole surgery to remove the unwanted tissue: "Getting surgery was the only thing that really made a difference. It felt like I was physically carrying something around with me. Now I don’t have to anymore."
'Cheapest e-bike' wars continue as Halfords slash prices again
On Tuesday, eBikeTips brought us the news that Halfords had launched what they claimed to be Britain's cheapest e-bike. The 20" wheeled Assist Deluxe launched with an RRP of £398, proclaimed as "the most affordable electric bike in the UK."
That got us searching the web far and wide to see if they were correct... and it turns out that for the last three days they've actually been beaten by Argos, who have discounted their E Plus Red Mantra down to £379.99.
Not to be outdone, we've just been told Halfords are discounting the Assist Deluxe again with the new price as of Saturday morning going down to £379, which will once again make it the cheapest e-bike in the land by 99 pence. Have they won the price battle once and for all? We'll wait to see if Argos land another price-cutting counter punch over the coming days...
The 'earth-saving' Tesla truck, ladies and gentleman...
the neatest thing about the #teslatruck is how it's powered by the disembodied limbs of cyclists & pedestrians it harvests during grocery runs
— danny (@dannyodwyer) November 22, 2019
If you haven't seen the monstrous thing yet, it looks like this...
The #teslatruck looks like it was made on the PS1 pic.twitter.com/kL8F7N75BH
— (@ZenoWatts) November 22, 2019
Dr Richard Freeman's lawyer wants remaining charges against him thrown out because GMC "has no evidence to support its case"
This week's proceedings at the Tribunal began on Wednesday, and it's emerged that yesterday Richard Freeman's lawyer Mary O'Rourke says she wants the remaining four charges against her client thrown out - he's already pleaded guilty to 18 of the 22.
She claims the General Medical Council don't have enough evidence to support the final charges against Freeman, which include ordering testosterone to British Cycling headquarters in 2011 to help athlete performance, and knowing that it was intended to help an athlete's performance.
Freeman claims the Testogel was ordered for Shane Sutton, but Sutton denied this strenuously and refused to give further evidence after his appearance last Tuesday. It emerged on Wednesday that Freeman had researched testosterone-boosting drugs before he made the order, but O'Rourke said this wasn't enough evidence.
O'Rourke also told the tribunal that Sutton was an unreliable witness and "a habitual and serial liar", but GMC lawyer Simon Jackson said that her "tactics" had prompted Sutton to leave the hearing.
The BBC quote Jackson as saying: "Sutton indicated that he was not available beyond Tuesday, at which point Miss O'Rourke made allegations against Shane Sutton as a serial liar and doper.
"The nature and tone of the cross-examination was deliberately focused not on the Testogel, but to make allegations of doping."
O'Rourke said that was "nonsense", and next week the tribunal will decide the weighting they will give to Sutton's evidence, or if indeed they should include it at all. The final witness will be Dr Richard Quinton, who is currently giving evidence to determine whether Shane Sutton had a therapeutic need for testosterone.
Northern Ireland is "missing out on an e-bike revolution" because of outdated laws, says insurance firms
Insurers Quotezone and Compare NI have identified that Nothern Ireland is missing out by still classifying e-bikes as mopeds, and the extra cost of tax and insurance is putting off potential e-bikers. Full story over on eBikeTips.
Mansfield reinforces town centre cycling ban in pedestrianised zones in a 'crackdown' on cyclists
Back in February 2018, we reported that Mansfield District Council had partially relaxed a town centre cycling ban which previously saw cyclists fined £75 for failing to dismount if requested to do so by a council official - the ban was 24 hours a day, but under the revised ban people were able to cycle in the area between 6pm and 10am, seven days a week.
While these rules still apply, The Mansfield and Ashfield Chad report that the District Council are launching a 'crackdown' in the lead up to Christmas, in which cyclists caught riding in the town's car-free zones outside of those times will be issued a £100 fixed penalty if they don't comply. For any scamps who want to know when the best time is to flout the ban and not get caught, the District Council have handily announced their crackdown will take place between 10am-4pm on November 30th and December 7th, 14th, and 21st.
The council's head of health and communities David Evans said: "It is clearly dangerous to cycle through busy streets that are full of people doing their shopping.
"We get a lot of complaints at the council from members of the public about this and there have been incidents where pedestrians have been injured by cyclists, too.
"The main aims of these days of action are to deter people from flouting the cycling restrictions and to improve the safety of pedestrians on some of the busiest shopping days of the year."
Is your town particularly unfriendly to cyclists? Do let us know of any examples that top this in the comments below...
Richard Thoday's penny fathing record is official
A Derbyshire teacher has had confirmed by Guinness World Records that he has indeed broken the 133-year-old record for the fastest Land's End to John O' Groat ride on a Penny Farthing. He completed the route in four days, 11 hours and 52 minutes, breaking George Pilkington Mills mark of five days, 1 hour and 45 minutes from way back in 1886 when he was just 18.
The 55-year-old told the Matlock Mercury: "It has been a nervewracking wait. But I gave Guinness World Records all the evidence I could provide, so if they said no, there was nothing else I could do.
“It was the toughest thing I have ever done in my life and definitely a one-off, I certainly won’t be doing it again because it was just so hard.
“Planning the journey was a full-time job, on top of my full-time job. It took ten months out of my life, and lots of support from my wife.”
Thoday finished the challenge back in late July, and eventually raised over £10,000 fo Children in Need.
Brompton launch new Black Edition colours for 2020 (two of them aren't black)
Brompton have added fresh colours to their premium Black Edition premium range for the new year. These are Rocket Red (above), Turkish Green and both Black Lacquer and Black Gloss, and you can also now get the Superlight with titanium forks and titanium rear frame in the Black Edition too.
The bikes are available to order now in models S, M and H Types, with 2 and 6-speed options available - check them out on Brompton's web store here.
Scottish Liberal Democrat candidate pedals a cycling-themed election video to inspire voters
John Ferry is the Lib Dem parliamentary candidate for Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale & Tweeddale, and we've been made aware of his campaign video by a fellow cyclist local to him who is part of the same club.
Fiona Dalgleish told road.cc: "We’ve known John for a long time as he’s a volunteer at lots of our bike events, and has ridden most of them too as well as being a youth leader at Peebles Cycling Club. He’s especially keen on Tour o the Borders – he’s done it every year since it started, and now he’s standing as our local MP.
"Regardless of the politics, it’s encouraging to see someone put a bike front and centre of a campaign – he sees being a cyclist as something which demonstrates determination and grit and shows that he’s someone who likes a challenge.
It's also nice to see a politician other than Boris on a bike! The film has been watched over 15,000 times on social media, so he’s obviously striking a chord."
Will the campaign see Mr Ferry ride high in the polls and claim a stunning victory? We'll await the results on Friday the 13th, the luckiest of days.
Zwift launch e-commerce store, so you can now buy smart trainers and merch directly from Zwift
Zwift have rolled out their online shop throughout Europe, so you can buy their merchandise and also smart trainers from Elite, Wahoo, Tacx and Saris all in a one-stop virtual shop. There is also a questionnaire to determine which trainer is the best for you, and the option to do a free 30 day trial with a trainer of your choice and a Zwift subscription .
You can also buy giftcards, clothing, trainer accessories and memberships - take a look here.
The latest meme goes cycling-themed...
"THIS IS CYCLING'S BEST YOUNG GENERATION AFTER WORLD WAR 2. I MEAN WE HAD BERNAL WINNING LE TOUR, POGACAR GOING CRAZY IN LA VUELTA, REMCO THE NEW MERCKX, PIDCOCK, GANNA... AND OH, HAVE YOU SEEN WHAT POULIDOR'S GRANDSON DID IN AMSTEL?!"pic.twitter.com/1PG9rMMfq5
— Mihai Cazacu (@faustocoppi60) November 21, 2019
Jack Sexty
After cobbling together a few hundred quid during his student days off the back of a hard winter selling hats (long story), Jack bought his first road bike at the age of 20 and has been hooked ever since. He was Staff Writer at 220 Triathlon magazine for two years before joining road.cc in 2017, and reports on all things tech as well as editing the road.cc live blog. He is also the news editor of our electric-powered sister site eBikeTips. Jack's preferred events are time trials, sportives, triathlons and pogo sticking (the latter being another long story), and on Sunday afternoons he can often be found on an M5 service station indulging in his favourite post-race meal of 20 chicken nuggets, a sausage roll, caramel shortbread and a large strawberry milkshake.
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British National Road Race Championships – photo gallery
Mark Cavendish (Omega Pharma-QuickStep) will hope to swap his new British national champion’s jersey for the maillot jaune when the Tour de France starts in Corsica on Saturday.
The 100th edition of the Tour starts with a rare sprint stage, giving Cavendish the opportunity to pull on the yellow jersey for the first time in his career.
Standing in his way, however, will be the likes of Andre Greipel (Lotto-Belisol) and Peter Sagan (Cannondale Pro Cycling), newly-crowned national champions of Germany and Slovakia respectively.
While Cavendish claimed the men’s title, Lizzie Armitstead (Boels-Dolmans) was victorious in the women’s race.
The Olympic silver medallist attacked from a four-rider group in the closing stages to win ahead of Wiggle-Honda duo Laura Trott and Dani King.
These pictures tell the story of the 2013 British National Road Race Championships.
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Marcel Kittel sprints to victory on the Champs-Élysées as Chris Froome is crowned 2013 Tour de France champion
Tour de France 2013: stage 20 - photo gallery
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Second Breakfast Is Such a ‘Southpaw’
cmmelv / December 13, 2015
Southpaw (2015)
The Plot: The obnoxiously-named Billy Hope (Jake Gyllenhaal) has just won the world heavy-weight boxing championship of the world boxing champion belt trophy prize, and is currently just living it up in his AWESOME MANSION with his HOT WIFE (Rachel McAdams) and PRECOCIOUS FEMALE CHILD (a child actress). But then his hot wife dies and he gets depressed and angry and social workers take away his precocious female child and he goes broke. So, he decides the only way to redeem himself is to win back his boxing prize, but this time with the help of a poor inner-city retiree (Forest Whittaker) who uses boxing as a way to make poor inner-city children believe in themselves.
A lot of words come to mind while trying to describe Southpaw; words like, “insufferable” and “derivative,” and combined to form phrases such as, “pretty damn bad.” I struggle at times to determine just which word is most appropriate and, indeed, most accurate. The simultaneous beauty and curse of the English language is its vast vocabulary. I know that there are a thousand words out there that mean “pretty damn bad,” but I can’t pick one. You know, I bet there’s a word in Finnish or Hawaiian or something that means exactly what I said in my three sentence plot summary. The English language is imperfect because it has no word for champion-boxing-guy-with-stupid-name-and-hot-wife-who-dies-trying-to-redeem-himself-via-boxing-so-he-can-win-back-his-irritating-child. Anyway, whatever word that is in whatever language, that’s the perfect word to describe Southpaw, because I know that it is only ever used in a derogatory, critical, and/or insulting manner. Maybe the word, for my purposes, should just be “Southpaw.” I could get behind that. “Dude, you are acting like such a Southpaw.” It could work.
I’ve commented before that the quality Jake Gyllenhaal’s performances vary to reflect how much he cares about his role. If he thinks it’s worth the money but not the effort, he kind of just tumbles through it, but if he really cares, then he really tries. I can’t fully figure out why, but he really did try for this movie. Clearly somewhere along the line someone told him that if he gave this character his all, maybe he could get an award this time, I dunno. The result is an embarrassing waste of effort. He’s been in better movies that deserved stronger performances from him. He doesn’t always channel his energy in the best direction; let’s put it that way. Unfortunately, everything else happening all around him is so distractingly bad, the fact that he’s trying becomes all too evident. The script and direction are so crippling to any attempt he makes at delivering an admiral performance, that all we can really see is how he’s ACTING. He’s definitely trying to give a good performance, but he does not succeed.
But hey, he did get into really good shape for this movie, so that’s something.
The film is directed by Antoine Fuqua, whose directorial credits range from “pretty good” to “sort of enjoyable” to “just plain terrible.” I think probably since the generally well-regarded Training Day, he hasn’t managed to do better than “sort of enjoyable,” with titles like Shooter, King Arthur, The Equalizer, Brooklyn’s Finest, Tears of the Sun, and Olympus Has Fallen. I can’t say I have particularly high hopes for his upcoming Magnificent Seven remake, because that would be about as far from the truth as I could get. He made one thing abundantly clear in Southpaw: this man should never, ever be permitted to work with children. Actually, that’s not fair. It’s more screenwriter Kurt Sutter’s fault. There are ways to make sure the kid in your movie isn’t horrible, and then there are ways to make sure your audience holds said child in contempt. Sutter obviously confused the two methods. It happens to the best of us.
Uggghhh
I watched this movie on a plane. Let’s keep that clear. I was confined to small space for eight hours with nothing much to do. Under those circumstance, even though Southpaw chewed up a quarter of my flight, it still felt like a waste of time. I’m just glad I didn’t pay anything to watch it. Again, it was an eight hour flight, so I still had time left afterwards, and ended up watching Straight Outta Compton and The Gift, both of which I can happily recommend. Watch those. Do not watch Southpaw, it is very much a Southpaw.
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How to create a “TV Series”-style campaign with “episode” scenarios?
Followup of this answer to a question about short-stories lasting about one 4h play session or two max.
I master a game of Vampire: The Masquerade, and I would like to find (and modify) or write scenarios that do three things:
Are short enough to be completed in one to two play sessions by a group of 4 vampire PCs
Often contain (or are completely made of) clues or metaplot-advancement scenes
Provide a "TV series episode"-style of storytelling, with a oneshot baddie, complete with plot hook, plot advancement and plot resolution (or sometimes maybe not competely resolved)
This is a choice aimed at trying to solve three other things:
One of my player (as stated in the linked answer's question) has a short attention span, and prefers one-shot style scenarios with a story that stands alone and is not a long commitment to playing each week
Sometimes a player is absent, this would bring the Absentee actor trope in some scenarios
This would, I think, greatly fit in Vampire's storytelling style, as everything in the book is described as scenes or stories and so on.
Thus, I would like to have scenarios that are written with one plot, well-defined and well-isolated scenes containing clues about said plot, a "baddie", and a conclusion.
How would one write such scenarios ?
I think I'd go with first finding an overarching plot convenient with PCs' backgrounds and stories. One of my player's character has grudge with a part of the Follower's of Seth from right before his embrace, so maybe I'll start there.
Then I think I'd have to define the plot-advancing, "important" scenarios first.
And then finally I'd write "filler" scenarios, less important for the main plot.
For the scenario themselves, I'd do the same: Find the main plot first, with a baddie, then decide on what clues players would get, and write scenes around that. I'd say one or two scenes with some exposition, a number of scenes containing clues (a number of which are "optionnal" and would maybe result in better XP at the end?) and a way for players to navigate between this scenes.
This is where I'm not sure how. I think having n scenes, n-k of which are needed for the plot to advance and for the players to finish the story, is not so bad, but I think writing them all would be hard, or time-consuming, and I fear the end result would not be as qualitative as I'd wish it to be. I'm ambitious and eager, but I'm no hollywood scenarist that's for sure ...
If you know some scenario library available somewhere that fits this, feel free to tell also, as it would -at least- provide me with examples.
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EregrithEregrith
It sounds like you have two problems - writing a story each week, and connecting them into an overarching plotline. Let's separate these out.
Writing Individual Episodic Stories
Specifically, since you're already going with a TV-show style of storytelling, why not gather inspiration from Vampire-themed TV shows?
There's already a wealth of vampiric TV shows out there that you can draw from - some more serious (True Blood) others much less so (Buffy: The Vampire Slayer) and they don't always strictly feature Vampires - but what they do feature is a wealth of lore to draw upon.
The challenge here would be that Vampire the setting already has a very large wealth of lore in itself - so you can't simply port over everything from a TV show and expect it to fit perfectly. You have to play by the campaign rules.
But you can still take the scenarios from TV shows, modified to fit the rules, in order to create your "Episode" sessions. That, at least, will help keep you inspired for the long-run while you work up an overarching plotline.
Connecting Episodes Into An Overarching Plotline
This is going to be a little harder, and should be considered as you're gathering inspiration for individual storylines. You're going to want to have a common thread among all the 'episodes' you run - perhaps all of the "monsters of the week" could be employed by a single villain, like The Followers of Seth that you mentioned. In that way, each individual battle can be a small victory over the group.
You could also have the villainous group carry out a plot behind the scenes, hinted at in each encounter. Try to be subtle at first, so that the players can have a sense of real achievement when they put the clues together. For a Vampire campaign, it could be an ancient resurrection ritual, a drawing of power from ancient blood, or simply a plot to take over the town.
Not every encounter has to be with the Followers though - your one-shot "Filler" episodes, for example, could exclude direct ties to the Followers, so that players interested in the main story arc don't miss vital clues.
\$\begingroup\$ Thanks. When you say "have the group carry out a plot behind the scenes", what do you mean? I'm having trouble with the meaning of "carrying out a plot", it sounds like you mean the players are meant to be the ones plotting in the darkness (and they totally can/will, but I don't think that's what's meant to be understood here...) (English is not my mother tongue) \$\endgroup\$ – Eregrith Apr 27 '15 at 13:57
\$\begingroup\$ @Eregrith I meant the villainous group - the Followers of Seth - and have clarified this with an edit. \$\endgroup\$ – Zibbobz Apr 27 '15 at 14:22
\$\begingroup\$ Episodic VtM you say? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kindred:_The_Embraced \$\endgroup\$ – Wesley Obenshain Apr 28 '15 at 5:18
I would not try to write all scenarios before – not even all non filler scenarios – go in the other direction:
have a vague idea about your intended overarching plot (along the way you will probably discover that thing go into completely different direction);
prepare (i.e. find, create, or otherwise acquire) material for a single session/scenario/episode in advance, you may only later discover whether a session was a key part in the overarching storyline, a filler, or a different perspective on the main storyline;
have some filler* scenarios ready for when you are out of ideas or when the evening feels more like one for playing something random than one for playing key parts of the main storyline;
see how the overarching storyline emerges from these loose sessions, the players' actions and desires;
sometimes alter existing scenarios to fit into the overarching storyline; and
sometimes alter scenarios to bring back characters/places/events from earlier (or possible future) episodes.
Often you see similar things with television series**: the series starts with a (more or less) original background story/theme; the first few episodes are relatively independent of each other only relating to the background story; and later episodes are more closely related.
Connecting various independent episodes
To alter independent stories so that they fit within an overarching storyline you should:
Keep an inventory of characters, places, and events that occur in each episode.
You can use index cards, text file(s), a mind map, a wiki, or a database to keep track. Make sure that you can distinguish between revealed information versus ideas/possibilities. I use mind mapping software, vym, at the initial stages; and when the mind map becomes to complex, I switch to text files formatted with markdown.
Keep track of relations among these characters, places, and events that you have revealed to the players.
When reading/preparing a new scenario ask these questions for every character, place, and event in the new scenario to find possible connections to your overarching storyline:
Can the character (unwittingly) be a pawn in the schemes of an existing character –or, even better, of several characters– or vice verse can existing characters be pawns of the new characters?
An event might be a tool in the scheme of an existing character. An existing character may have inadvertently or intentionally caused the event.
Will the player characters definitely find this relation? Might the player characters find this information with the right actions, with luck, or by knowing the right people? Will only the most paranoid, clever, or lucky players or player characters find this relation? When do you intend the player characters to find this information?***
Chosen as the first option, since it adds to the schemes behind schemes atmosphere of world of darkness.
Can an existing character, event, or place from your inventory replace the one in the new scenario?
Does an existing character fit the role of the new character? Is the new character's role completely atypical for an existing character?
The latter might be interesting as well: Your typical damsel in distress**** for once a source of trustworthy information. The derelict church, that is always the setting for mysterious meetings, is for once providing refuge to innocent sincere persons.
Choosing to replace fresh characters, events, and places by existing ones reduces the amount of information you and the players have to keep track of.
Is a fresh character/event/place related to an existing character, event, or place?
It feels a bit cheap and contrived to just make every new character a brother of some existing character and every new place the favourite hangout of an other character. The relations should be deepened and used sparingly.
Alternatively, you can occasionally –not too often– have existing characters or places appear as extra in the fresh scenario.
* ) Keep your mind open to the possibility that what at first appeared a filler episode might become something related to the main storyline either because the main storyline changes itself or because you or the players altered the filler scenario.
** ) At least this was how older television series in the 90'ies and zeroes where. I'm not sure whether this holds for series like Game of Thrones, House of Cards, etc.
*** ) The players will probably discover the information at the wrong moment either when you are not prepared for the consequences of them knowing or when it is of little use to them any more.
**** ) Do they occur in your world or are they sucked dry and forgotten?
Kasper van den Berg
\$\begingroup\$ Thank you for your answer, but I'd like to have a bit of insight on how to actually create such scenarios; some that would be opened to an overarching plot emerging? I see how player's actions are unpredictable and will alter drastically whatever I have prepared, but I don't see how every totally different character would impact the environment in a way that I can manage as a single big connected plot :( \$\endgroup\$ – Eregrith Apr 27 '15 at 13:42
\$\begingroup\$ "but I don't see how every totally different character would impact the environment in a way that I can manage as a single big connected plot" - Every DM \$\endgroup\$ – Zibbobz Apr 27 '15 at 13:53
\$\begingroup\$ @Zibbobz Yeah well that's why I aim at creating 'options' for the players and manage the outcome of those, while railroading a bit the story. \$\endgroup\$ – Eregrith Apr 27 '15 at 13:54
I've run a lot of episodic games, but there's major differences in how I've run them well vs. what you're looking to do. Many of the things you're asking to do are pretty easy, but running it "clue to clue" actually makes it hard.
Episodic Games and what works well with them
I've run episodic games as combat encounter focused play, in which case, it's pretty easy to figure out what will fit in the time expected, the players know what they're supposed to do, and I only have to generate a very limited number of prepared materials ("There will be 3 encounters, these will definitely happen") instead of potentially having to think of alternate material ("But if they miss clue B, I need to have clue C and clue D as well...").
I've also run episodice games as primarily character drama focused play, but not having a prepared plan of what will happen, but instead improvising and simply using the NPCs' motivations as the way for me to figure out how they will act and react and build scenes around that. In this case, I can easily make the events and time contract or expand by improvising in the moment.
Scrambling to make Clue to Clue work
When you look at media that does clue based investigations, it's usually a very highly structured story with a lot of planning, carefully placed "lucky finds" or "lucky insights" and so on. RPGs are not edited, planned affairs, and so clue to clue has always been a troubled path.
There's basically two ways to use clue-based play.
The most common way involves prepping clues ahead, and then setting it up so that the party or players can only find them by engaging with certain activities, and that the clues lead to other clues, which means it's very easy to get stuck or stop the adventure if clues get missed or misinterpreted. So you spend a lot of time as a GM doing several, difficult things:
artificially trying to steer the players into the clues
trying to steer the players away from misinterpreting the clues or jumping on non-clues ("No, guys, wait... that's just a history book... no... ack.")
trying to make sure the players don't get clues too easily ("Oh, I'll use my magic super senses to see if the scent is the same person" "Damn, I didn't think of that!")
trying to make sure the players don't give up on clues which would require just a bit more work ("C'mon, look in the drawers! Look in the drawers!")
So clue to clue play can become really a pain in the butt both in prep, in play, and time-wise, as a lot of the time players are basically trying to guess what they should be looking at and how.
The OTHER way to use clue to clue play is to treat all of the clues as you would areas in a sandbox type game - the information is out there and players can use whatever means to find it, in whichever order, and the drawback to this is that you can't really predict whether the players will put enough together to deal with the problem quite early, or if they'll be getting entangled with other problems - it's not particularly episodic in play. Usually in this type of game the information is often held by NPCs and the real point of play is the character drama (negotiations, alliances, deal brokering, appeals to humanity, etc.) that the players use to have their characters navigate the situation - it's really more politics than just investigation.
Going for it anyway!
So... assuming with all of that, you still want to go for it? My best bets with the hard road is the following:
Make sure your players are ok with the preplanned style of play. Players who think they have full range of choices of their characters, when they don't, will be frustrated and unhappy, and you will spend a lot of time trying to railroad them.
Guess on 3-4 "steps" for your investigation. Assume there is a baseline clue which will lead to the next step, and dice rolls, choices, etc. can give BETTER or more information but nothing that is absolutely necessary is something that can be missed. This is critical to making the pacing of a single session resolution work.
Larger plot clue is part of whatever the last discovery is at the end and cannot be missed. The larger plot falls apart if there's too many gaps in the clue trail over the game, so you want to make sure it's non-optional.
Accept potentially short sessions once in awhile. Don't artificially press to make clues harder to find, or steer players away from good investigative choices. I had a GM once who consistently did this - it made us simply stop bothering to investigate because we realized we only got clues when he felt like the game was moving too slowly.
First thing: I'm sure you're already aware, but it is always a good idea to point out, the players should have some amount of control over the plot. The decisions they make should affect the narrative, so that it isn't you running your players through a story. Like I said, I'm sure you already know this. Now on to...
Episodic Gaming
The other answers have given some great advice. The idea here is to start out, like you suggest in your question, with a broad, over-arching idea. The Thing That the Players Want to Stop. This could be the Follower completing some type of ritual, to some mad scientist type capturing and experimenting on Vampires. Who knows? But it should be something that the PCs don't or can't know about early on, and will only uncover through the "episodes" that you present to them.
Alright, great. We have our big picture. Now it's time to get down to sessions. Each session that we are connecting to the main storyline (and not all of them have to connect, that's your call to make) should have x number of things.
The feel of a "mission".
Clues that point to the main plot
A definable resolution.
We'll go over each.
The easiest way to think of these "episodes" is as missions. Each episode should be a mission that the players undergo, and at the end of each mission, the players should have a slightly better understanding of how these seemingly different events are actually connected.
Now, missions can be more than one "episode" long. You could have one mission that is a 2 part Episode (where each part is one play session). The trick is to leave the halfway point with some new revelation, so that the end of part 1, the players have been given some revelation that there is a different problem to be solved in part 2. Example: My investigators were looking to uncover why there was a sudden outbreak of seizures in a small town. They had a pretty good handle on the investigation, until the end of Part 1, where they discovered the mangled corpse of a woman. Part 2 was the players stopping whatever caused that unpleasantness.
So the first episode of your campaign, similarly, should be some small problem that the players can track and take care of in one play session. Then, they should probably get some information that will later point them to the overall plot. My example will be a bad guy called Bob.
Your players are trying to find out why people are disappearing in episode 1, and find out that lunatics have been kidnapping them and sacrificing them for whatever reason. They stop the crazies, but also find out that Bob has been funding them and helping them out behind the scenes. This leads us to point 2.
Clues to a bigger plot
The next missions don't have to, on the surface, connect to what the players did last time. You can even jump forward several months if you want, because at the end of every "mission", the timeline becomes something you can easily play around with. So the next mission the players undertake can be dealing with a Werewolf tribe that has been putting pressure on some Vampires that are friendly to your players (I'm not overly familiar with the WoD universe, forgive me.)
The players can later learn that the Werewolves were paid to do this by, you guessed it, Bob. Now we have the players interest. Who is Bob? Why is he doing all this stuff?
In the fullness of time, the players can uncover that Bob is a part of the Followers of Seth! Now things are starting to come together, and all of those little missions are actually connected- the players have been indirectly opposing the Followers of Seth this entire time. Just remember to make your players' choices matter, and have them actually affect what the Followers of Seth can and cannot do going forward. If the players kill the Werewolves (somehow), maybe the Followers can instigate a turf war. If, however, the players convince the Werewolves that they were being used, perhaps they have gained an ally going forward.
A definable resolution
This is important to keep the missions feeling distinct from one another. Each missions should have a clear objective to it that is resolvable in one to two sessions. After which, the characters get some time off to do whatever. We skip that part, and fast forward time to the start of the next missions the next time we play.
As you like, you can put in more of these missions that have nothing to do with the overarching plot using the same guidelines above. Maybe some of them can even point to another plot coming later down the road, or not. It all depends on you, at that point.
Episodic gaming can be a lot of fun. It is basically running little mini-campaigns in the time of one play session, and linking them up to a larger plot. If you think about it in those terms, it might help.
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The Harrison Freshet
November 23, 2019 at 12:27 am (Uncategorized)
Tags: Albert G. Butts, Central Railroad, Georgia and Alabama Railroad, Harrison Freshet, Henry Harrison Knight, Little River GA, Lowndes County GA, Milledgeville GA, Muckalee Creek, Troupville GA, William Henry Harrison, Withlacoochee River, Yazoo Freshet
Way back a hundred and eighty years ago, at Troupville, GA which was then still the county seat of old Lowndes county, there stood an old cypress tree. This old tree weathered many a Wiregrass storm and its roots held steadfast. Passing under its boughs, pioneer settlers like Levi J. Knight came to Troupville to conduct the governmental, commercial and social affairs of the county. The town was built right in the fork of the Little River and the Withlacoochee. “Troupville only suffered one inconvenience, wrote Montgomery M. Folsom. To get to town three-fourths of the population had either to cross the river of the east or the river of the west and half the time, during the winter and spring, these rivers were raging with freshets, the bridges were afloat and were frequently swept away.”
When the flood of March, 1841 inundated the town the residents noted the high water level by a mark on the old tree.
The height of that flood, known as the Harrison Freshet, became the standard by which all subsequent floods were judged for a hundred years thereafter. The flood was associated with William Henry Harrison, who carried the presidency in 1840, in an election which lasted 34 days. Levi J. Knight’s nephew, Henry Harrison Knight, was born November 17, 1840 smack in the middle of the election.
There has come to be some confusion over which flood is properly known as the Harrison Freshet, some histories placing the so-named flood in 1840 and others in 1841. Congressional records state the Harrison Freshet “occurred in 1841, lasting from the 11th of March to the 19th.” Newspapers all over the state of Georgia reported rising waters and washed-out bridges during this period, just days after the inauguration of William Henry Harrison as the ninth President of the United States. But parts of Georgia had also been awash in the flood of 1840, which saw waters rise as high.
The freshet of May [1840] continued while the convention at Milledgeville that nominated General William H. Harrison for the Presidency, was in session, and it was, therefore, called by the people east of the Oconee river the Harrison freshet. In that portion of the country, and beyond the Savannah river and in Carolina, the rivers and streams were higher, and the overflow and destruction greater than by any other freshet since the Yazoo freshet in 1796. The cities of Augusta and Hamburg were submerged.
In the early part of March, 1841, after President Harrison’s inauguration, the big fresh occurred west of the Oconee, and the Ocmulgee, Flint and Chattahoochee rivers, and all other smaller streams, contained more water and produced greater damage than ever known. In this section the last inundation was also called the Harrison freshet; hence the confusion that arose many years afterwards in distinguishing which was the proper Harrison fresh. The discrimination was, however, distinctly recorded at the time of the occurrences. The fresh of May and June, 1840, while the convention was held at Milledgeville, was named by the Democrats, “The Nomination Freshet,” and the fresh of March, 1841, was also named by the same “unterrified” authority “The Harrison Inauguration Freshet.” An iron spike was driven into the western abutment of the city bridge by Mr. Albert G. Butts, denoting the highest water ever in the river down to that time, March, 1841. The spike still remains, and is inspected at every freshet in the Ocmulgee. – Historical Record of Macon and Central Georgia
At Troupville, it was the same; The mark remained on the old cypress tree, and it was inspected at every freshet. The flood of 1897 precipitated such an inspection.
Troupville, GA flood of 1897 described in the New Orleans Times Democrat
New Orleans Times Democrat
Bridges Washed Away and Railroad Traffic Stopped.
Special to the Times-Democrat.
Atlanta, Ga., March 27. – All of the streams running into the largest rivers of Southwest Georgia are flooded to such an extent as to have almost suspended travel on the east and west line of the Plant system, as well as on the Georgia and Alabama Railroad Line. The Georgia Southern Railroad is washed out in many places, and no trains have passed in the last twenty-four hours. In the neighborhood of Valdosta the floods have risen to such an extent as to cover almost the entire country. The Willacoochie rose at the rate of two feet an hour at first, and is still rising. It has covered all the railroad tracks from view, though the trestle is a high one, and half a mile long. All the bridges in Lowndes county have been carried away.
At the old cypress tree at Troupville the high water mark of the Harrison freshet has been covered. The Allapaha river is also on a rampage, and every bridge on the Flint, from its source down to its junction with the Chattahoochee, has been carried away. The Central Railroad branch running from Columbia, Ala., to Albany is so largely under water that transportation has been abandoned. Americus also has been cut off by the overflowing of the Muckalee for a week, and travel is done by boats. It is the most general flooding that part of the country has ever received.
Of course, Troupville is gone now, but whatever happened to that old cypress tree?
Marsh’s Ferry, the Lopahaw Bridge and Tyson Ferry
Tales of Old Troupville: The Pranksters
Map of Old Troupville, GA with Notes on the Residents
A Plank Road for Troupville
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Riders of the Troupville Circuit: Tillman Dixon Peurifoy
Bowling at old Troupville, Georgia
An Antebellum Trial at Troupville
Reverend John Slade of the Troupville Circuit
Sheriff Swain and Legal Affairs in Old Troupville.
Morz Swain was Innkeeper, Blacksmith, Sheriff & Jailor of old Troupville, GA
More About Troupville, GA and the Withlacoochee River
Reverend William A. Knight at old Troupville, GA
September 1, 2017 at 12:38 am (Coffee Road)
Tags: Alapaha River, Alvah William Gaskins, Andrew McClelland, Berrien County GA, Cornelius Tison, Cornelius Tyson, Cunningham's Ford, Daniel Grantham, Harrison Freshet, Irwin County GA, Irwin County Inferior Court, J. H. Rowan, Jacob A. Bradford, Joe Studstill, John Harper, John McMillan, John Studstill, Keefe and Bullock Turpentine Still, Leonard G. Jackson, Leonard Jackson, Lopahaw Bridge, marking commissioners, Marsh's Ferry, Micajah Paulk, Milltown GA, Moses C. Lee, Ocmulgee River, Phoebe Rowan, Reuben Marsh, Robert M. Echols, Shadrach Griffin, Stony Hill Plantation, Swain's Ferry, Thomas L. Swain, Tyson Ferry, William Gaskins
One of the early roads in Berrien County described by William Green Avera was, “the road from Milltown northward to Tyson Ferry on the Alapaha River just east of the present site of Alapaha. This road pass[ed] by the residence of the late John Studstill, first sheriff of Berrien County, later the home of Joe Studstill, his son; Stony Hill, the old residence of the late Moses C. Lee; Keefe and Bullocks Turpentine still; the residence of the late J. H. Rowan [and] the residence of his widow, Mrs. Phoebe Rowan; the residence of the late William Gaskins — the grandfather of the late Alvah W. Gaskins of Nashville, GA.” At Tyson Ferry, the Milltown road intersected the Coffee Road.
Monday, June 19, 2017, Julian Fields led a field trip to the site where the ferry on the old Coffee Road crossed the Alapaha River. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7_-0AzgKgw
It was the 1823 opening of the Coffee Road that led to the creation of Lowndes County, which then covered a vast area of Wiregrass Georgia including present day Berrien County, GA. When John Coffee first cut his road through the wilderness, there were no ferries or bridges over the creeks and rivers. Early travelers forded water crossings as best they could. The WWALS Watershed Coalition documents a number of waypoints, creek and river crossings on the route of the old Coffee Road. The route of the Coffee entering present day Berrien County from the north first crossed the Willacoochee River, then traversed the Alapaha river at Cunningham’s Ford. With seasonally high water, these rivers were no doubt difficult if not impossible to cross.
Within a few years ferries were established over the Willacoochee and the Alapaha for the convenience of Coffee Road travelers.
According to Huxford’s “Pioneers of Wiregrass Georgia” Vol. 2, Reuben Marsh moved to Irwin County about 1828 and settled in the 5th district on land Lot 381 which straddles the Willacoochee River. There he established a farm and ferry apparently to serve travelers on the Coffee Road.
Enhanced detail of Irwin County survey plat District 5 showing location of land lot 381 on Willacoochee Creek. Reuben Marsh established a ferry over the Willacoochee in 1828.
Marsh, an early settler of Irwin County, was one of the Commissioners appointed by the legislature to fix the location of the county seat, Irwinville.
It appears that sometime prior to 1836, Reuben Marsh acquired land Lot 424.
At January term, 1836 [Irwin County Inferior Court], Daniel Luke, Hezekiah Walker and Mathew Merritt, appointed commissioners on road leading from courthouse to Widow Mobley’s and intersect there with Coffee Road, also Frederick Merritt, Andrew McCelland and Micajah Paulk, appointed commissioners on Coffee road leading from Thomas L. Swain’s ferry to Ruebin Marsh’s ferry on Alapaha.
At January adjourned term, 1836, commissioners were authorized to turn the road leading from [Irwin County] courthouse to Ruebin Marsh’s ferry on Alapaha to near John Benefield’s on to Elisha Grantham’s ferry and strike Coffee Road nearest and best way.
THE LOPAHAW BRIDGE
In 1836 the Georgia Assembly provided partial funding for the construction of a public bridge over the Alapaha River. Later records of the Inferior Court of Irwin County indicate Tyson Ferry was put into service to replace this bridge .
1836 Georgia Act to construct a bridge across the Lopahaw River
AN ACT, To appropriate the sum of eight hundred dollars, to build a Bridge across the Lopahaw.
Whereas, it is all important that a Bridge should be built across the Lopahaw, at or near Coffee’s Road, and whereas, the citizens are unable to build the said Bridge, and whereas, a subscription is on foot to raise or contribute eight hundred dollars which is thought will be about one half of the amount necessary and requisite to build and erect a substantial Bridge, for remedy whereof:
Sec. 1. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the State of Georgia in General Assembly met, and it is enacted by the authority of the same, That Jacob Polk of the county of Irwin, Daniel Grantham, Sen’r. John McMillon, be and they are hereby authorized to draw and appropriate the sum of eight hundred dollars, for the purpose of building a Bridge over and across the Lopahaw, at or near where the Coffee Road crosses the said river, and for the repair of Coffee’s Road.
Sec. 2. Be it enacted by the authority of the same, That the said Commissioners shall give bond and sufficient security for the faithful discharge of their duty, and properly to expend the aforesaid sum for the erection of said Bridge.
Sec. 3. And be it further enacted by the authority aforesaid, That His Excellency the Governor, be, and he is hereby authorized and required, on the receipt of said bond as before required, to pay the amount of eight hundred dollars to the said Commissioners aforesaid, out of any money in the treasury not otherwise appropriated.
JOSEPH DAY,
Speaker of the House of Representatives.
ROBERT M. ECHOLS,
President of the Senate.
Assented to, Dec. 26, 1836.
WILLIAM SCHLEY, Governor.
It appears that the Lopahaw bridge was not constructed on the direct path of Coffee Road over the Alapaha, for at the February 1838 term of the Inferior Court of Irwin County marking commissioners were appointed to lay out a route which bypassed the ford and proceeded over the public bridge, rejoining Coffee road after the crossing.
At February term, 1838, Jacob A. Bradford, John Harper and Leonard Jackson, appointed commissioners to lay out and mark road, leaving Coffee road near Cornelius Tyson’s to public bridge on Alapaha, thence to intersect Coffee road
at or near Micajah Paulk’s, Sr.
The Irwin County Tax records of 1831 and 1832 show Cornelius Tyson’s Irwin County property included Lots 422 and 424 in the 5th Land District of Irwin County.
1831 – 1832 Irwin County, GA property tax records of Cornelius Tyson
When the Inferior Court of Irwin County next met road commissioners were appointed for Coffee Road, to include the new routing over the public bridge.
At July term, 1838, Leonard G. Jackson, Shaderick Griffin and Andrew McClelland, appointed commissioners on road, commencing at C. Tyson’s to public bridge on Alapaha, then to intersect Coffee road near Micajah Paulk’s, they to commence at county line and ending at district line.
There is reason to question just how long this bridge remained in service, for in 1841, Georgia experienced a severe, wide-spread flood known as the Harrison Freshet:
In the early part of March, 1841, after President Harrison’s inauguration, the big fresh occurred west of the Oconee, and the Ocmulgee, Flint and Chattahoochee rivers, and all other smaller streams, contained more water and produced greater damage than ever known. In this section the last inundation was also called the Harrison freshet; hence the confusion that arose many years afterwards in distinguishing which was the proper Harrison fresh. The discrimination was, however, distinctly recorded at the time of the occurrences. The fresh of May and June, 1840, while the convention was held at Milledgeville, was named by the Democrats, “The Nomination Freshet,” and the fresh of March, 1841, was also named by the same “unterrified” authority “The Harrison Inauguration Freshet.” An iron spike was driven into the western abutment of the [Macon] city bridge by Mr. Albert G. Butts, denoting the highest water ever in the river down to that time, March, 1841. The spike still remains, and is inspected at every freshet in the Ocmulgee. – Historical Record of Macon and Central Georgia
The flood of the 1841 Harrison Freshet is known to have washed away bridges on the Alapaha River. “Few bridges on the common streams … stood the shock.” The Milledgeville Federal Union declared it a 100 year flood. The “extraordinary flood…caused awful damage in Alabama, Georgia and South Carolina” with major erosion, land slides, “roads rendered almost impassable, and plantations disfigured with enormous gullies.” At Troupville, GA, then the county seat of Lowndes County, the town was inundated, the flood setting a high water mark on the old cypress tree there which set a record , according to the March 28, 1897 New Orleans Times-Democrat, which was not surpassed for 56 years.
Whether or not the Lopahaw Bridge weathered the 1841 storm is not known, but James Bagley Clements’ History of Irwin County states,
“At the January term, 1842, an order was passed by the Inferior Court [Irwin County] an order was passed establishing a ferry across the Alapaha River at a place known as Marshes Ferry. The rates were fixed as follows: man and horse, twelve and one-half cents; man, horse and cart, twenty-five cents; two-horse wagon, fifty cents; four-horse wagon, one dollar; pleasure carriages, one dollar; gigs, fifty cents; jersey wagons, thirty-seven and one-half cents; mules and horses, 3 cents per head; cattle, 3 cents per head, sheep and hogs, one and one-half cents per head; foot persons, free. Rates to be advertised at ferry.
At same term of court a ferry was established across the Willacoochee where Coffee Road crosses said creek and the above rates shall govern said ferry.”
Clement’s History of Irwin County relates that “the public bridge” over the Alapaha was condemned at the January 1856 term of the Irwin County Inferior Court.
TYSON FERRY
At the same 1856 term of court according to James Bagley Clements’ History of Irwin County, “Cornelious Tyson was granted authority to erect a ferry on Alapaha River on the Coffee road at the location of the condemned bridge and he is allowed to charge the following rates: man and horse, six and one-fourth cents; horse and cart, twenty-five cents; four-horse wagon, fifty cents; horse and buggy, thirty-seven and one-half cents.”
Cornelius Tyson was one of the five marking commissioners appointed by the state legislature in 1856 to fix the boundary lines of the newly created Berrien County. Cornelius Tyson is enumerated in Berrien County, GA as Cornelius Tison in the Census 1860.
Coffee Road Led to Creation of Lowndes County
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Postmaster Hamilton W. Sharpe Takes Offense
WWALS Watershed Coalition: Old Coffee Road, Georgia
February 9, 2014 at 2:18 am (Troupville of Old Lowndes County)
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Troupville, Lowndes County, GA
From pioneer times to the present day, Ray City, GA , has been under the jurisdiction of three different counties and six different county seats of government. From 1825 to 1856 the community fell within the borders of Lowndes County. During that period, the county seat of government was first at Franklinville, GA, then briefly at Lowndesville, and about 1836 moved to the town of Troupville,GA. [A legal announcement in the November 7, 1837 Milledgeville Southern Recorder, pg 4, documents that public auctions were still being held at Franklinville at that date.]
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Morgan Goodgame Swain and the Estate of Canneth Swain
Post Offices of the Old Berrien Pioneers
Levi J. Knight and Lowndes First Superior Court
Grand Jury Presentments of 1845, Old Lowndes County, GA
In its heydey, Troupville was the center of commerce and social activity for the region. Promoters of the town hoped to develop the Withlacoochee River as a navigable waterway. In the Harrison Freshet of 1841, the town was inundated, the flood setting a high water mark on the old cypress tree there which set a record , according to the March 28, 1897 New Orleans Times-Democrat, which was not surpassed for 56 years. The Harrison Freshet knocked out bridges all over the region and probably caused the loss of bridges on the Coffee Road, then the main thoroughfare passing through Lowndes County. “Few bridges on the common streams … stood the shock.” The Milledgeville Federal Union declared it a 100 year flood. The “extraordinary flood…caused awful damage in Alabama, Georgia and South Carolina” with major erosion, land slides, “roads rendered almost impassable, and plantations disfigured with enormous gullies.” In 1845, the citizens of Lowndes county petitioned the state legislature “praying that the State tax and 1846 and 1847, be retained by said county, to improve the navigation of the Withlacoochee river,” but the House committee on Petitions returned an unfavorable report.
Among the prominent pioneer settlers who frequented Troupville were the Knight family. Reverend William A. Knight, was the religious leader of many of the Primitive Baptist churches in the area and the father of Levi J. Knight, earliest settler at the site of present day Ray City, Berrien County, GA.
White’s Statistics of the State of Georgia, published 1849, describes Troupville thus:
Troupville is the [Lowndes County, GA] seat of justice, immediately in the fork made by the confluence of the Withlacoochee and Little rivers. It has the usual county buildings, three hotels, two churches, four stores, several mechanics’ shops, two physicians, and four lawyers. It is distant from Milledgeville 180 miles S.; 40 from Thomasville; 75 from Waresborough, and 75 from Irwinville. It is a healthy and pleasant village. Population about 20 families.
Here is a conceptual layout of Old Troupville adapted from a sketch of the town made by C. S. Morgan, and superimposed on a modern map of the confluence of the Withlacoochee River and the Little River .
Map of Troupville, GA adapted from C. S. Morgan
In addition to the structures depicted on this map, the following Troupville property owners are known:
Lot No. 1 “on the east side of the Courthouse” property of William McAuley prior to 1841
Lot No. 2 1/2 acre “water lot”, Jesse Townsend, prior to 1846
Lot No. 3 1/2 acre, John J. Underwood, prior to 1844
Lot No. 5 1/2 acre, John J. Underwood, prior to 1844; 1/4 acre “water lot” property of Jared Johnson, prior to 1846
Lot No. 7 1/4 acre,Uriah Kemp, prior to 1839; south half (1/8 acre), Daniel S. Graham prior to 1841.
Lot No. 8 Uriah Kemp, prior to 1839
Lot No. 9 Uriah Kemp prior to 1839, Hiram Hall prior to 1842
Lot No. 10 1/2 acre, Hiram Hall prior to 1842, John J. Underwood, prior to 1844
Lot No. 11 1/4 acre “well improved” lot owned by John Studstill up to 1845; Richard Allen after 1845
Lot No. 13 south half (1/8 acre), James A. Boyet prior to 1842.
Lot No. 14 “on the east side of the Courthouse” property of William McAuley prior to 1841
Lot No. 15 1/4 acre “water lot”, Jesse Townsend, prior to 1846
Lot No. 16 1/4 acre, William P. Murdoch prior to 1852
Lot No. 17 Daniel W. Thomas – Ten Pin Alley
Lot No. 21 1/4 acre, John J. Underwood prior to 1846.
Lot No. 25 1/4 acre, William Lastinger prior to 1840; Hiram Hall prior to 1842, Burnett & Hall (Joseph S. Burnett and Hiram Hall) 1842 to 1843.
Lot No. 28 1/4 acre mol, Thomas O. Townsend prior to 1847
Lot No. 29 1/4 acre, John J. Underwood prior to 1844, Samuel Maulden, prior to 1847
Lot No. 32 1/4 acre, Hiram Hall prior to 1842, Burnett & Hall (Joseph S. Burnett and Hiram Hall) 1842 to 1843; John J. Underwood, 1843 -1844; property of Hiram Hall, 1844 and described as ” the place whereon John J. Underwood now [Aug 13, 1844] lives.”
Lot No. 34 property of William McAuley prior to 1841
Lot No. 35 Henry J. Stewart, , prior to 1850. Stewart was an Attorney at Law and served as Postmaster in 1848.
Lot No. 37 Joseph S. Burnett and Hiram Hall prior to 1841
Lot No. 38 1/4 acre, William McDonald, prior to 1838
Lot No. 39 1/4 acre, William D. Branch, prior to 1840
Lot No. 45 5 acres mol (Wilson’s Survey), Mikel Myers, prior to 1848
Lot No. 46 Peter K. Baillie, prior to 1842
Lot No. 50 1/4 acre, “on which is situated the Methodist Episcopal Church,” property Duke K. Jimson prior to 1846.
Lot No. 53 1/4 acre, Duke K. Jameson; also Richard W. Kirkland prior to his death in 1848
Lot No. 59 1/4 acre, John J. Underwood prior to 1844; Thomas O. Townsend prior to 1845
Lot No. 60 Thomas O. Townsend prior to 1945
Lot No. 61 1/4 acre, Duke Blackburn prior to 1838; Uriah Kemp, prior to 1839
Lot No. 64 1/4 acre, Uriah Kemp, prior to 1839; John J. Underwood, prior to 1844
Lot No. 69 1/2 acre, John J. Underwood, prior to 1844
Lot No. 70 1 1/2 acre, John J. Underwood, prior to 1844
Lot No. 72 Duncan Smith prior to 1846.
Lot No. 73 2 acres mol, Lodowick Miller, prior to 1842
SOME RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS OF TROUPVILLE, GA
John Ashley, attorney, 1848
Dr. William Ashley,
Received his medical degree from UGA in 1845. Following further medical education in Philadelphia he moved to Troupville prior to 1850 and established a successful practice. He was a boarder in William Smith’s hotel, Tranquil Hall. In the Crisis of the Union in 1850, he was a pro-secessionist.
Georgia Smith Ashley, married in 1851
Anna Caroline Ashley
Daniel Cornelius Ashley
Sumner W. Baker, attorney, 1856
George W. Behn, attorney, 1845
M.J. Bennett
W. B. Bennett, attorney, Associate Editor of the Thomasville Southern Enterprise, 1858
M. B. Bennett, attorney
James B. Bliss, jeweler, 1843
Elisha Ward Bozeman – not a Troupville resident, but in the 1850s he was a “hack driver” who regularly drove carriages through the town on the route from Thomasville, GA to Monticello, FL. He was later a resident of Quitman, GA
Henry Briggs, Doctor and apothecary shop owner.
Anthony C. Bruner, Methodist Preacher in 1842
Joseph S. Burnett, sheriff, 1839
T.A. Caruth, 1857 pastor
John B.Cashan, merchant
Deborah Cashan, wife of John B. Cashan
Children of John B. Cashan
Ann E. C. Cashan
Sarah J. Cashan
John B. Cashan, Jr.
James S. Cashan
Jones E. Cashan
Albert Converse
Mary Converse
Reverend William B. Cooper, first pastor of Little River Baptist Church
D. R. Creech, traveled to New York City, October 1857
O.P.Dasher , traveled to New York City, October 1857
William H. Dasher, Attorney at Law, 1852-56
T. S. Davies, Attorney at Law, doing business as the firm Davies & Rockwell, 1846.
William H. Goldwire, Attorney at Law, 1852
A. Davis, Pastor 1858
William Wesley Dowling, Farmer 1849-1854
Ardelia Frier Dowling, Wife of William W. Dowling
Children of Ardelia and William W. Dowling
John Moses Dowling
Sarah Elizabeth Ann Dowling
Ryan Eli Dowling
Henry Taylor Dowling
Mary Emily Dowling
Thomas William Ellis, Doctor and druggist
Piercy Dixon Ellis, wife of Dr. Ellis
Elisabeth Ellis, daughter of Dr. Ellis
Caroline Ellis, daughter of Dr. Ellis, married John B. Cashan in Dooly Co., 22 Jul, 1849
Ryan Frier, minister of the Little River Baptist Church, 1842
Reverend Jonathan Gaulden, organizing member of the Little River Baptist Church.
William Oglethorpe Girardeau – of Monticello, FL, had a law office in Troupville, 1848, in partnership with Charles S. Rockwell
William Godfrey, Grocery merchant circa 1850
Henrietta O. Goldwire, member of the Little River Baptist Church
James O. Goldwire, constituting member and deacon of the Little River Baptist Church
Marie I. Goldwire, member of Little River Baptist Church
William H.Goldwire, second pastor of Little River Baptist Church, Attorney at Law, 1852
Ann C. Goldwire, Wife of William H. Goldwire
Children of Ann C. and William H. Goldwire
Matilda M. Goldwire
Sophia B. Goldwire
Old Monday, a slave of the Goldwires
Thomas Butler Griffin
Jane Moore Griffin
Children of Thomas Butler Griffin and Jane Moore Griffin
Marcus J. Griffin
Samuel Moore Griffin
Iverson Lamar Griffin
W.W. Griffin, Methodist Episcopal preacher, 1843
Joshua Griffith, Sales Agent for the Wiregrass Reporter (Thomas County newspaper)
Barney Howell – in the 1840s “was mail carrier between this neighborhood [Thomasville] and Monticello, Florida, making the horseback journey with great regularity and going via Troupville, which was then county seat of Lowndes County.” He was a resident of Thomas County and a brother of Caswell Howell, who served as one of the early members of the Baptist Church at Milltown, GA.
Thomas Hughes Hines, Attorney at Law, residing at Stansell’s hotel, 1850; doing business as the firm Nelson & Hines, 1852, and on his own account in 1853
Seaborn Jones, died November 9, 1849, accidently shot by his nine-year-old son, William Jones
Jonathan Knight, hotel operator circa 1840-1849
D. B. Johnson, student at Troupeville Academy, circa 1849
Isaac de Lyon, publisher of the South Georgia Watchman newspaper
Leonoren de Lyon, editor of the South Georgia Watchman newspaper
Robert Marlow, member of Little River Baptist Church
R. J. McCook, Methodist Episcopal Preacher, 1856
Charles C. Morgan
David B. Morgan, Attorney
William Louis Morgan, Attorney at Law and Secretary of the Lowndes County Inferior Court; came from Macon to Troupville in 1842; beekeeper; Solicitor General of the Southern Circuit (1843); representative to the 1845 Georgia Democratic Convention; secessionist representative to the 1850 Georgia State Convention which produced the Georgia Platform; grave at Sunset Hill Cemetery, Valdosta, GA
Thomas L. Nelson, Attorney at Law, doing business as the firm of Nelson & Hines.
Captain George W. Patterson, born in VA; lawyer and school teacher in Troupville from 1854 to 1860; relocated to Valdosta.
James W. Patterson, Attorney, 1854
Dr. W. H. Perry, of Troupville, received his medical degree in Augusta in 1843.
Henry Peeples, Merchant
John Peeples
Richard Augustin Peeples, Merchant, later mayor of Valdosta
Tillman D. Penrifoy, Preacher, 1840
Col. Ephriam H. Platt, Attorney and real estate agent, 1853 -1858.
George Robie, Teacher, 1842
Frances Barrett Robie, wife of George Robie
Georgia A. Robie, daughter of George Robie, b. 1842 at Troupville, GA
Charles S. Rockwell, Attorney at Law, doing business in 1846 as the firm of Davies & Rockwell, and in 1848 as the firm of Rockwell & Girardeau; also taught school in Troupville; moved to Thomasville before 1860.
John Slade, Methodist preacher riding on the Troupville circuit.
Aaron Smith – Storekeeper
Duncan Smith, Secretary of the Democratic Party of Lowndes County, 1848; Clerk of court, 1851
Henry H. Smith, head of Troupville Bible Society, 1856
Mose Smith – Storekeeper, owned the first store in Troupville
Moses Smith, Jr.
William Smith, Innkeeper of Tranquil Hall and Postmaster of Troupville
S. Spencer, Attorney at Law, doing business as the firm of Spencer & Stewart, 1843
H. S. Stewart, Attorney at Law, doing business as the firm of Spencer & Stewart, 1843
George W.Stansell, Hotel keeper
Eliza E. Stansell, wife of G. W. Stansell
John Strickland
Elizabeth Wooten Swain, 1st wife of Morgan Swain
Children of Elizabeth Wooten and Morgan Swain
Joel Wooten Swain
Rachel Inman Swain
Rebecca Griffin Swain, 2nd wife of Morgan Swain
Children of Rebecca Griffin & Morgan Swain
Silvania Swain
Emily Swain
Thomas Swain
William Swain
Morgan Swain, jr
Morgan Swain, Innkeeper, jailor, blacksmith, and sheriff
Tarlton Swain, brother of Morgan Swain
Daniel W. Thomas, Shopkeeper, residing at Stansell’s hotel, 1850.
John Towells, Sheriff, 1844
Solomon W. Walker, Farmer
Mary King Walker
Children of Solomon W. Walker & Mary King Walker
Solomon Wesley Walker
Matilda Walker
Nancy Jane Walker
Henry Clay Walker
William Webster Walker
Isham F. Walker
Mary Walker
Lewis P. D. Warren, Attorney, admitted to the bar at Troupville, 1848
Powhatan Whittle, Attorney; born abt 1832 in Virginia; arrived in Troupville 1854; a lineal descendant of Pocahontas;
William Wilder
Sarah Wilder
Hopkins Wilder;
John W.Wilder;
Jane M.Wilder;
Bathsheba Wilder;
Andrew J.Wilder;
Edward Gross Wilder
Sarah E Wilder
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Eric Swalwell in Interviews during 2018-2020
On Gun Control: Assault weapon buyback program, with criminal enforcement
Cory Booker was asked on CNN about his gun control proposals: "Your competitor in the 2020 race, Congressman Eric Swalwell has also, like you, proposed an assault weapons ban. He's proposing a buyback program where Americans who currently have those guns could sell them essentially to the government, but if they don't, within a certain period of time, they would be prosecuted--thrown in jail, perhaps. Are you supportive of the same?"
Booker responded affirmatively that the law would be enforced with criminal sanctions after a "reasonable period." He had said earlier: "The critical thing is, I think most Americans agree, that these weapons of war should not be on our streets." Earlier in the day, Booker unveiled a 14-part gun control plan, which included a ban on assault weapons including high capacity magazines. Source: Washington Examiner on 2020 Democratic primary May 6, 2019
On Gun Control: Be big; be bold; do good; gun control
Key criticisms of Swalwell:
One-issue campaign: Swalwell is going all in on gun control, which could appear as a one-dimensional campaign while other key 2020 issues are on the table.
One fun thing about Swalwell:
His campaign slogan is "Be big. Be bold. Do good."
Source: Axios.com on 2020 Democratic primary Apr 22, 2019
On Education: College bargain: no-interest loans & debt-free college
Swalwell would advocate for no-interest federal student loans as well as debt-free college, according to his campaign website. He's introduced a number of bills in Congress on these issues, including several that would enhance student loan forgiveness and deductions.
At a February "Politics and Eggs" breakfast in New Hampshire, Swalwell proposed a "college bargain" system that would allow students to help pay for their schooling through part-time work-study or volunteer jobs. Source: PBS News Hour on 2020 Democratic primary Apr 10, 2019
On Energy & Oil: Support for Green New Deal and Paris climate accord
Swalwell hasÿvoiced support for the Green New Deal,ÿthe progressive climate action bill that House Democrats introduced in February. He has also expressed strong disapproval of President Donald Trump's decision to pull out of the Paris climate accord. Source: PBS News Hour on 2020 Democratic primary Apr 10, 2019
On Families & Children: No firearms for people with history of domestic violence
Gun control: Ban assault weapons and institute a federal buy-back program. Swalwell has co-sponsored numerous gun control-related bills in Congress, including a bipartisan measure to expand background check requirements. In February, Swalwell introduced the "No Guns for Abusers" Act, which aims to keep firearms out of the hands of individuals with a history of domestic violence.
The congressman penned a USA Today op-ed last May calling for a ban on military-style assault weapons, and pushing for a federal buy-back program. (Swalwell's call for the weapons ban landed him on the cover of the NRA's magazine, "Freedom," with the headline "Gas Bag in the House.") The congressman reiterated his stance on guns at a town hall on ending gun violence in Sunrise, Florida, this week. Source: PBS News Hour on 2020 Democratic primary Apr 10, 2019
On Health Care: Coverage for all, but don't eliminate private insurers
Swalwell published an op-ed in support of Medicare for All last month, writing that the policy is "the obvious solution to a health care system that still drives people to financial ruin." Swalwell also co-sponsored a Medicare for All bill in February.
In March, Swalwell said he supports "coverage for all" but is not in favor of eliminating private insurers, as some of his competitors are. A page that was once dedicated to the issue on his website is currently not working. Source: PBS News Hour on 2020 Democratic primary Apr 10, 2019
On Immigration: Visit Northern Triangle to gain compassion for those fleeing
Swalwell has been critical of the president's immigration policies, recently tweeting that he'd like Trump to show more "compassion" by visiting the Central American countries many migrants are fleeing from to witness the violent conditions there.
The congressman supported the bipartisan immigration reform bill that passed the Senate in 2013 (the bill died in the House), as well as legislation to protect so-called "DREAMers," immigrants who were brought to the U.S. illegally as minors. Source: PBS News Hour on 2020 Democratic primary Apr 10, 2019
On Gun Control: After mass shootings, time to make gun control an issue
Swalwell will center his campaign on gun control. Helping him do that will be Cameron Kasky, a survivor of the February 2018 mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida. Swalwell has written about being inspired by the youth movement in his call to ban all assault weapons. "We are doing a town hall in Parkland," he told me. "And I do believe that gun safety has to be a top 2020 issue." Source: The Atlantic, "Gun Safety," on 2020 Democratic primary Apr 4, 2019
On Families & Children: Agrees with Obama that kids should dream bigger than parents
[Eric Swalwell, in a repeated campaign phrase says], "The economy is you. It's how you're doing. Whether you're saving more, doing better, and dreaming bigger." Eric Swalwell, what does that mean?
Eric Swalwell isn't even the first person to use the phrase "doing better and dreaming bigger." That would be Barack Obama, who said it in a context that actually made sense. From a 2012 campaign speech:
"Are we going to make sure that an honest day's work is rewarded so that somebody who really works hard, they can afford to own their own home, and they'll have health care when they get sick, and they'll be able to retire with dignity and respect? And most of all, [that] they'll be able to make sure that their kids are doing better and dreaming bigger than they did?"
Obama's formulation, in which you work hard so your kids can have bigger dreams than you did, is not necessarily a groundbreaking concept, but at least it's one that tracks logically. Eric Swalwell is going to have to ... do bett Source: Slate, "Most Vapid Sound Bite," on 2020 Democratic primary Apr 3, 2019
On Principles & Values: If you work hard it adds up to dreaming bigger
Swalwell says about running for president, "I think I could be a candidate who would make sure that if you work hard it adds up to doing better and dreaming bigger. That's why I'm considering it."
Ye gods. If you work hard it adds up to dreaming bigger? Eric Swalwell, what does that mean? Making it even worse is that this is apparently not just something that slipped out of his mouth: It's an Eric Swalwell catchphrase. Here he is last November:
@RepSwalwell: "The economy is NOT the stock market, the unemployment rate, or GDP. It's YOU. Are you doing better, saving more, and looking at your kids and dreaming bigger? This @MarketWatch story shows for 3 out of 4 of us, the economy is not working. Let's make it work for ALL. #TrumpSlump"
And last April at a speech in Iowa: "The economy is you. It's how you're doing. Whether you're saving more, doing better, and dreaming bigger." Source: Slate, "Most Vapid Sound Bite," on 2020 Democratic primary Apr 3, 2019
On Health Care: Keep private insurance; allow public option
He's for allowing Americans to have a choice between private healthcare coverage and government-run health benefits. Swalwell told MSNBC's "Morning Joe" that he's opposed to Medicare for All proposals supported by other Democrats running for President that would bring an end to private insurance. "I support coverage for all, which would be a public option that would drive down the pressure on the private insurers," Swalwell said. Source: Forbes Magazine, "Coverage," on 2020 Democratic primary Mar 19, 2019
On Health Care: Yes to Medicare-for-All after time in the ICU with daughter
There's no place better to learn about the American health care system than in a hospital, among the afflicted and their families. You can particularly learn a lot by sleeping a few nights in your infant daughter's hospital room. We need a Medicare for All universal health guarantee. We need, and Americans deserve, a health care system in which if you get sick you get seen, as well as one in which if you get seen, you don't go broke because of it. Source: Swalwell OpEd on NBC News for 2020 Democratic primary Mar 2, 2019
On Gun Control: Ban assault weapons and buy back as many as possible
Reinstating the federalÿassault weapons banÿthat was in effect from 1994 to 2004 would prohibit manufacture and sales, but it would not affect weapons already possessed. We should ban possession of military-style semiautomatic assault weapons, we should buy back such weapons from all who choose to abide by the law, and we should criminally prosecute any who choose to defy it by keeping their weapons. Source: Swalwell OpEd in USA Today for 2020 Democratic primary May 3, 2018
The above quotations are from Interviews during 2018-2020, interviewing Democratic presidential hopefuls for 2020.
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As a footwear company, Asics has been steadily carving out their own niche among dedicated runners looking for a decent product that can provide durability and responsiveness. While they can’t offer the same impressive products or results as Nike, this humbler brand has done extraordinarily well working within the expectations of their dedicated fanbase of fitness fanatics. A fantastic example of this can be seen with Asics FuzeX Lyte 2, an incremental improvement over a model they released prior. With this version of the FuzeX Lyte, Asics made a few improvements to address concerns that customers had with the previous model. The result is an impressive performing accessory that makes for the perfect addition to a typical running session.
Appealing colorways
Pronation support
Somewhat disappointing style
Uncomfortable tongue
The material that was used to construct the outsole of the Asics FuzeX Lite 2 is AHAR, short for Asics High-Abrasion Rubber. This synthetic compound was designed in-house for the explicit purpose of providing the greatest possible resilience to damage from heavy-duty running while also ensuring a decent degree of responsiveness. Certain areas of the shoe are coated with larger concentrations of this material in order to compensate for areas of high impact. Another interesting feature of this outsole is the fact that it is designed to encourage full-ground contact. In addition to ensuring a supportive ride, this aspect of its design provides greater stability for the runner that will allow them to safely and comfortably run at faster speeds.
While the outsole may seem impressive with its AHAR technology, it’s the FuzeX Lite 2’s midsole that offers something truly unique. Asics combined the best attributes of gel and EVA foam to create Fuzegel, an entirely new and unique form of midsole cushioning that results in a surprisingly comfortable and lightweight experience. Aside from the fact that this material combines two fundamentally different components into one polymer, another impressive facet of its design is the way that it encourages a seamless transition from a rearfoot strike to a forefoot toe-off. This is yet another way that these Asics shoes manage to ensure high support for runners who may struggle with overpronation.
The most noticeable difference between the previous FuzeX Lyte model and this one is its upper portion. Asics went with a different construction style and slightly different material to create the FuzeX Lyte 2’s upper, focusing on the familiar motif of lightweight comfort. The synthetic mesh that comprises the majority of its construction ensures that wearers will be able to continuously feel the cool air on their feet thanks to its excellent breathability, and the numerous perforations in the material that make this possible also ensures that the shoe weighs much less than prior models. Finally, the seamless construction style drastically reduces skin irritation for runners who dislike seams or stitches, although some customers have complained that the tongue of this shoe is still uncomfortable and will require constant adjusting.
For any runners who already own the first model of the Asics FuzeX Lyte, it may be difficult to justify making the leap to this version. However, the biggest selling point that is likely to win these people over is the fact that these shoes weigh nearly an entire ounce less than the prior model, thanks to the impressive technology that went into this iteration. Thanks to the FuzeGel midsole and seamless mesh upper, these Asics running shoes weigh roughly 9 ounces for men’s sizes and 7 ½ ounces for women’s on average. There are certainly lighter shoes on the market, such as a considerable amount of products created by Nike, but they can’t offer the same blend of comfort, durability, and responsiveness that’s on display here.
As previously mentioned, the perforated mesh fabric that comprises the Asics FuzeX Lyte 2’s upper is manufactured in a way that promotes high breathability. The numerous small holes are designed to let cool air in from outside of the shoe, where it can then circulate around the wearer’s feet and keep them dry. Hot air can then flow outside of the shoe, ensuring a constant cycle of fresh and cool air. Thanks to a combination of this upper construction and the lightweight design of the rest of the shoe, runners shouldn’t have to worry about their feet becoming uncomfortably warm or sweaty during a typical running session. However, these Asics shoes don’t come with any moisture wicking or resistance properties, so any situations where sweating or exposure to liquid is a concern should be avoided while these shoes are worn.
When it comes to this shoe’s performance on the track or sidewalk, one of its most impressive aspects is its comfort. Thanks to the many impressive features baked into the design of the Asics FuzeX Lyte 2, runners can attack a wide variety of traditional running surfaces and feel exceptionally well-cushioned every step of the way. In all fairness, the cushioning present in this shoe isn’t as significant as one would find in something from New Balance or Skechers. However, it is significant and noticeable, with particular emphasis being placed on underfoot cushioning thanks to Asics’ FuzeGel midsole technology. Thanks to the seamless construction of these shoes upper, most of the comfort experienced on the top half is mostly focused around the avoidance of discomfort. However, the one unfortunate aspect of this shoe’s construction that doesn’t manage to avoid discomfort is its tongue, which a few customers have remarked can cause some discomfort and will likely need to be adjusted multiple times during a typical running session.
Asics has a particular style that they have embraced and honed over the years. This style can’t quite be described as athleisure since it doesn’t really have any stylistic elements that allow them to look fashionable in a casual setting. They also aren’t strictly utilitarian or minimalist in the way that can often be observed among barefoot-style shoes or trail runners. Instead, Asics offers a visual aesthetic that is entirely it is own, resulting in a visually distinctive appearance that isn’t entirely unappealing. The choice between multiple colorways improves its stylistic versatility to a significant degree but its overall lack of fashion appeal holds it back from the same heights as brands like Adidas or Under Armour. In essence, the Asics FuzeX Lyte 2 look like decently fashionable running shoes and will only provide stylistic appeal in athletic environments for that reason.
One of the reasons why so many runners and fitness enthusiasts seek out Asics products is for their above average durability. Over the years, this footwear brand has come to be known for offering decent resilience in the face of common running exercises; the FuzeX Lyte 2 is no exception to this rule. Runners have remarked in their online reviews that these shoes are able to withstand cumulative running lengths of hundreds of miles before needing to be replaced. This can be mostly attributed to clever design tricks, such as the emphasis on full-ground contact baked into the outsole, rather than to the strength of any particular material used in its construction. In fact, the move toward lighter materials for this version of the FuzeX Lyte resulted in a somewhat diminished durability according to individuals with experience using both models.
Although these Asics running shoes weigh very little, they are still more than capable of providing adequate protection for the wearer’s feet. In particular, the outsole and midsole work together to provide both tangible protection for the underside of the foot against rough terrain and intangible protection by absorbing excess shock from repetitive ground impact. The outsole is especially helpful in regards to the latter form of protection since its design encourages a natural transition from the rear to the front of the foot when striking the ground. As a result, this is one of the best choices of running footwear for individuals who have issues with overpronation.
The key to any running shoe’s responsiveness is its midsole. This is the one component of an article of footwear that has the greatest impact on its ability to respond quickly to a runner’s movements. The FuzeGel that was used for the Asics FuxeX Lyte 2’s midsole offers a decent measure of responsiveness thanks to the EVA foam portion of its construction. However, this particular material was made from a combination of EVA foam and gel cushioning, which means that it sacrifices responsiveness for higher cushion and lower weight. This tradeoff is compensated to a small degree by the design of this shoe’s outsole, which provides more responsiveness through facilitating a natural stride, but the end result is still somewhat less impressive than the traditional Asics product.
Although the Asics FuzeX Lyte 2 is a bit of a downgrade from the previous model in terms of durability and responsiveness, one aspect of its design that is an upgrade has to do with support. Most of the new features that went into this shoe, as well as the older features that remained in this version, provide primary or secondary supportive benefits. For example, the way that this shoe’s AHAR outsole facilitates full-ground contact means that runners who struggle with gait abnormalities like overpronation will be well-compensated through its design. Additionally, the FuzeGel midsole provides a truly impressive level of underfoot support that can ward off common repetitive stress injuries such as shin splints or stress fractures.
Asics designs running shoes that are intended for use only on traditional running surfaces. This means that the durability, protection, and traction provided by the FuzeX Lyte 2’s design is only guaranteed on surfaces commonly encountered during a casual running session. Some examples of appropriate terrain include a running track, a grassy field, a sidewalk, or an asphalt road. Some forms of non-technical running trails may be acceptable for wearers of these shoes but anything with a steep incline or populated with numerous obstacles and road hazards should be avoided. By no means will these shoes be able to handle the same stressors as a heavy-duty trail running shoe, no matter how secure and comfortable the wearer feels on these running surfaces.
Unfortunately, the price for a pair of Asics FuzeX Lyte 2 running shoes tends to fluctuate wildly since it has ceased production. As a result, its price can be anywhere between $40 and $170 depending on the specific size and colorway. Versions of this product that are more prevalent and less popular will be on the lower end of the price spectrum but sizes and colorways that are rarer or more highly sought after will have a drastically inflated price. At its lowest prices, this product is an excellent choice for the cost. However, it is very difficult to justify paying more than $100 for these Asics running shoes, let along $170.
So long as the wearer of these Asics running shoes sticks to appropriate running surfaces, traction will not be an issue that they need to deal with. The rubber that was used to design the FuzeX Lyte 2’s outsole will ensure a stable and consistent grip with most forms of casual running terrain without going overboard. As a result, wearers can comfortably engage in running exercises of varying speeds and intensities without experiencing any hindrance from a lack or abundance of underfoot grip. Something worth noting is the fact that these shoes prioritize a natural stride where the runner strikes the ground with their heel, makes full contact with the ground and then lifts the front of their foot to drive the next step forward. As a result of this design choice, any runner who tends to run in a different way may experience some discomfort or resistance.
Since these shoes are much lighter and made from less material than some other running shoes on the market, the Asics FuzeX Lyte 2 is more flexible than the average pair of casual running footwear. Much of this can be attributed to the lightweight and highly perforated upper which works to provide breathability and comfort at the expense of additional cushioning or protection. The outsole is flexible as well, although the way in which it bends actually enhances its stability rather than detracts from it. It’s because of this fact that these Asics running shoes come across as an anomaly: they’re flexible without feeling unstable.
Usually, footwear manufacturers have to strike a delicate balance between flexibility and stability when designing their running shoes. Too much of one and not enough of the other will inevitably lead to issues either in regards to comfort or control. Fortunately, Asics found a brilliant way to address this problem with the design of their AHAR outsole. Despite being made from a sturdy rubber material, this underfoot component encourages a small amount of flexibility so that the wearer performs a more naturalistic stride during a typical running session that ensures full contact with the ground. This provides the dual benefits of support for overpronation and exceptional stability, resulting in a technical marvel of a product.
With about 8 millimeters of cushioning added to the heel of the midsole in comparison to the forefoot, the Asics FuzeX Lyte 2 has a heel drop that is about in line with most casual running shoes manufactured in recent years. This is a higher elevation than is commonly found in shoes that prioritize a more neutral stride, such as trail running shoes or minimalist barefoot-style runners. However, the peculiar outsole design of this product still allows it to provide support and stability for runners who prefer to run with a more neutral stride even while ensuring greater comfort for heel strikers. As a result, these are some of the most versatile pairs of running footwear on the market in its price range.
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The Asics FuzeX Lyte 2 is not going to turn any heads in regards to its style. For that reason, runners who are looking for a pair of shoes that will also look good in casual settings will likely pass on this model in favor of something from a more well-known athleisure brand. However, hardcore runners and dedicated Asics customers will find a lot to love with this product. The way that its midsole and outsole combine to provide the perfect synthesis between flexibility and stability while also ensuring terrific pronation support has to be felt to be believed. Asics FuzeX Lyte 2 is a product well worth the cost of admission, provided you don’t try and purchase the rarest versions.
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JP2014527209A - Dynamically reconfigurable electrical interface - Google Patents
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JP2014527209A JP2014515827A JP2014515827A JP2014527209A JP 2014527209 A JP2014527209 A JP 2014527209A JP 2014515827 A JP2014515827 A JP 2014515827A JP 2014515827 A JP2014515827 A JP 2014515827A JP 2014527209 A JP2014527209 A JP 2014527209A
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グレゴリー エム. ウェルブルック,
チャーリー シー. ワン,
ザ・ボーイング・カンパニーThe Boeing Company
2012-05-16 Application filed by ザ・ボーイング・カンパニーThe Boeing Company filed Critical ザ・ボーイング・カンパニーThe Boeing Company
2015-07-09 Publication of JP2014527209A5 publication Critical patent/JP2014527209A5/ja
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A dynamically reconfigurable electrical interface is disclosed that can be used in a variety of applications including avionics communications. In one embodiment, the first switch receives an input signal and routes the input signal to an applicable signal conditioning path unit that conditions the input signal, after which a second switch To the amplifier. The amplifier supplies an amplified signal to an analog-to-digital converter, and the analog-to-digital converter generates a corresponding numerical value according to the voltage of the amplified signal, and the voltage is analyzed by a processor, The information transmitted by the input signal is determined using a specific electrical interface. A number of different interfaces can be accommodated by one or more processors by accessing a set of instructions and processing information corresponding to a particular electrical interface. In another embodiment, the processor supplies the numerical value to a digital-to-analog converter to generate the information by generating an analog signal that is amplified, routed, and conditioned using a specific electrical interface. To transmit.
Civil and military aircraft are equipped with various electronic systems (often referred to as “avionics”) that collect data and organize information into other configurations. To and from the element during normal operation of the electronic system. Such avionics can include flight management computers, entertainment systems, computers, radios, sensors, and GPS related equipment. Typically, standardized telecommunication interfaces that define communication protocols for signal transmission are utilized to facilitate interconnection and communication between various components.
Various electrical interfaces have been defined to facilitate interconnection between such components. Such an interface may include, for example, ARINC-429, which is a technical standard for avionics data communications and defines physical / electrical interfaces for serial data buses and related protocols. Other avionics standards include MIL-STB-1553B, which is a serial data bus interface that is often used for military aircraft. Other avionics of commercial passenger aircraft, such as in-flight video entertainment devices, can send and receive digital video signals. Other aircraft components may use other serial data interfaces, including the Electronics Industry Association (“EIA”) EIA-232, EIA-422, and EIA-485 standards. Other electrical interfaces, such as the universal serial bus (“USB”) that is widely used in personal computers, are found in aircraft subsystems.
While these various communication interfaces can be implemented using dedicated integrated circuits (“chips”), the resulting components are still limited to the interfaces implemented by the chip. In order to mount a new interface or an updated interface, it is necessary to control a new chip by mounting new hardware and software. Prior to the manufacture of such components, each interface-specific chip and the component on which the chip is mounted must be approved before the interface-specific chip and the component are used for civil or military aircraft. First, it needs to be tested, approved, and designed into a module. An aircraft can have many different electrical interfaces, which increases the complexity of maintaining the components used for each type of interface or system.
These aspects are overcome by a flexible approach that can accommodate a variety of electrical interfaces. The disclosure herein is presented in connection with these and other notes.
This summary is provided to introduce a selection of concepts in a detailed description that are further described below. This summary should not be used to limit the scope of the claimed subject matter.
In one embodiment of the present disclosure, a dynamically reconfigurable electrical interface (“DREI”) is provided that processes received interface signals. The DREI includes a first switch, a signal conditioning path unit, a second switch, an amplifier, an analog-to-digital converter (“ADC”), and a processor. The first switch receives an input signal and routes the input signal to a signal conditioning path unit adapted to change an electrical characteristic of the input signal to generate a first changed input signal. The second switch is configured to receive the first change input signal at an input port and route the first change input signal to an output port according to a switch control command. The amplifier is configured to receive the first change input signal from the output port of the second switch and adjust a voltage level of the first change input signal to generate a second change input signal. . The ADC receives the second change input signal and supplies a corresponding numerical value to the processor in response to the second change input signal. The processor receives the corresponding numeric value and confirms a communication protocol message associated with the receive interface signal.
In another embodiment of the present disclosure, a method is provided for processing a plurality of input signals received with a DREI of a first communication protocol, the method receiving the input signals having a first voltage at a first switch. And routing the input signal to a signal conditioning path unit, the signal conditioning path unit changing the plurality of input signals to a plurality of corresponding second voltages. The input signal group having a corresponding second voltage group is then routed from an input port to an output port by a second switch, and the plurality of input signals are supplied to an amplifier. The amplifier is configured to adjust the second voltage to a plurality of corresponding third voltages and to supply the plurality of input signals having the third voltage group to an analog-to-digital converter (“ADC”). Is done. The ADC in turn supplies a plurality of numerical values corresponding to the third voltage to the processor. The processor is configured to confirm a message based on a communication protocol, and the processor executes instructions to confirm the message based on the communication protocol.
In yet another embodiment of the present disclosure, an avionics data processing system is provided that includes one or more dynamically reconfigurable electrical interface (“DREI”) devices, each DREI storing a plurality of instruction sets. A memory is provided, and each instruction set is associated with one communication protocol of the plurality of communication protocols. The processor is configured to select an instruction set of the plurality of instruction sets and generate a numerical value by generating an output signal of the DREI device. The numeric value is then provided to a digital-to-analog converter (“DAC”), which is configured to receive the numeric value and generate a first intermediate output signal having a first voltage. Next, the first intermediate output signal is supplied to an amplifier, the amplifier is configured to receive the first intermediate output signal and to generate a second intermediate output signal having a second voltage. The first switch is configured to receive the second intermediate output signal and supply the second intermediate output signal to an output port of the first switch. The signal conditioning path unit is configured to receive the second intermediate output signal and supply the second intermediate output signal to a second switch, and the second switch outputs the second intermediate output signal to an output port. To generate the output signal.
The features, functions, and advantages that have been described can be implemented individually in various embodiments of the present disclosure, or can be combined in yet other embodiments, and further details regarding these embodiments can be found below. And the following drawings can be understood.
FIG. 1 illustrates one embodiment of an environment that utilizes multiple input and output components to interface with avionics components that use multiple dynamically reconfigurable electrical interface devices. FIG. 2 illustrates one embodiment of a dynamically reconfigurable electrical interface. FIG. 3A illustrates one embodiment of a method for processing an input signal at a dynamically reconfigurable electrical interface. FIG. 3B illustrates one embodiment of a method for processing an output signal at a dynamically reconfigurable electrical interface. FIG. 4A illustrates another embodiment of a dynamically reconfigurable electrical interface that includes a single processor and multiple communication interfaces in accordance with embodiments disclosed herein. FIG. 4B illustrates another embodiment of a dynamically reconfigurable electrical interface that includes a single processor and multiple communication interfaces in accordance with embodiments disclosed herein. FIG. 4C illustrates another embodiment of a dynamically reconfigurable electrical interface that includes a single processor and multiple communication interfaces according to embodiments disclosed herein. FIG. 5 illustrates another embodiment of a dynamically reconfigurable electrical interface that includes multiple processors and multiple communication interfaces.
The following detailed description relates to a system and method relating to a dynamically reconfigurable electrical interface ("DREI"). Although various embodiments are described with respect to an aircraft electronic system (“avionics”), the application of the present disclosure is not limited to avionics systems, nor is it limited to the disclosed communication systems. In the following detailed description, reference is made to the accompanying drawings, by way of example, and various embodiments of the disclosure, in which like reference numerals refer to like elements, and in which: Represent.
Aircraft are equipped with various onboard data handling systems, including but not limited to: flight management computers, communication systems, inertial coordinate systems, air data computers, radar altimeters, radios, And a GPS system. Other systems that require the exchange of information between components can be installed. For example, passenger aircraft are often provided with in-flight entertainment systems, which in-flight video, audio, and in-flight Internet connections require components that interface video, audio, and data transfer. I will provide a. Not all of these components are necessary or provided for aircraft flight management, but these components are examples of components that use different electrical interfaces. .
All these systems typically include components that communicate with other components of other systems using a communication protocol. These communication protocols define the various schemes necessary for these components to connect and exchange information. These methods include physical plug provisions, pin designations, voltage provisions, information encoding provisions, message provisions, data exchange procedures, and procedures that distinguish from control signals and data signals. Various industry standards have been created, some of these industry standards have been created for avionics, and other industry standards have been created for other uses other than those that have been adapted to avionics. It has been. Existing avionics standards include the ARINC-429 standard and the MIL-STD-1553B standard typically associated with military platforms. Other standards originating from non-military aircraft can be used in civil aircraft subsystems and can include data transfer protocols such as EIA-232, EIA-422, USB, and the like.
Each of these electrical interfaces has different characteristics. For example, in the ARINC-429 standard, a 78Ω shielded twisted pair cable is used. This corresponds to the MIL-STD-1553B standard that specifies a cable of 70 to 85Ω, but conversely, the 78Ω cable is not specified in the MIL-STD-1553B standard (for example, MIL-STD-1553B is not limited to 78Ω cables). Furthermore, the ARINC-429 standard specifies a 10 volt peak voltage difference; MIL-STD-1553B specifies an 18-27 volt peak-to-peak output voltage. Similarly, the EIA-232 standard defines a receive input range of +/− 15 volts, whereas the EIA-422 standard only defines a receive input range of +/− 10 volts. These examples show only a few incompatibilities of the various electrical interfaces. These different interfaces can be addressed using different interface dedicated circuits (for example, circuits that implement a specific electrical interface), but such a configuration limits the components to the dedicated interface. End up. Obviously, in order to mount a hardware-dedicated chip, the supporting components need to be designed for the specific interface-dedicated circuit. Other interface-dedicated circuits can be added to ensure future flexibility, but doing so unnecessarily increases component costs when other interface-dedicated circuits are no longer needed. End up.
In order to use the interface dedicated circuit, not only each component that uses a specific chip needs to be designed, but each component is then tested, debugged as necessary, and It requires work to train maintenance personnel for repairs, work to store repair parts, and so on. These costs can be minimized by developing a dynamically reconfigurable electrical interface that can be easily adapted to these different communication interfaces.
In one embodiment of the present disclosure shown in FIG. 1, system 100 includes an avionics configuration having various ports or interfaces 150 that communicate with various input or output (“I / O”) devices or other components 102. An element 110 can be provided. Although different physical ports are shown, these physical ports can be considered logical ports, in which case information to the various components 102a, 102b, and 104 is multiplexed in one physical communication device. The These I / O devices may comprise, in one embodiment, a sensor component 102a, a monitoring component 102b, and an output component 104, for example. The function and purpose of these components can vary and is not limited to the embodiments described herein. These components 102a, 102b, and 104 can be inputs, outputs, or a combination of inputs and outputs as desired. In addition to these I / O components, avionics components may have various hardware / software configurations using one or many microprocessors, parallel processors, or other programmable logic circuits. it can.
The embodiment of FIG. 1 shows an avionics component 110 that includes three ports that communicate with three separate components 102a, 102b, and 104 that use different electrical interfaces. Rather than using a separate interface dedicated chip to implement an electrical interface (the electrical interface requires three interface dedicated integrated circuits), one embodiment of the present disclosure allows for one dynamically Configurable components can be duplicated and connected to each port to interface with each electrical interface of a different electrical interface. This embodiment shows three different approaches that apply the principles of the present disclosure, and a single general purpose DREI (dynamically reconfigurable electrical interface) can be used to implement a wide variety of electrical interfaces. The process is shown. The common DREI, which can be adapted to a wide variety of communication interfaces, makes it easy to design, manufacture, test, and repair the components of FIG. 1 and produce complex systems such as those used in aircraft And the overall cost associated with the maintenance work can be reduced.
FIG. 1 further illustrates that the avionics component 110 incorporates DREI into the physical assembly of the avionics component. This allows the desired communication interface and protocol to appear as part from component 110 to sensor component 102a. In this embodiment, the communication is performed in one direction, but can be performed in both directions. Thus, any sensor component 102 a that is compatible with the desired communication interface can be easily plugged into the avionics component 110 and can communicate with the avionics component 110. Since avionics component 110 can incorporate other types of interfaces, using the principles of the present disclosure, the subsystem can be easily adapted to communicate with a wide variety of devices.
As shown in FIG. 1, the DREI 150b can be incorporated into the monitoring component 102b itself. This embodiment illustrates a monitoring component 102b that can provide data upon request to the avionics component 110. Thus, communication is bi-directional and is illustrated with bi-directional arrows. However, the communication can easily be functionally quite similar to the sensor component 102a or the output component 104. In this way, the monitoring component 102b may be “converted” and recognized by the component 110 and using a communication protocol that was not originally provided in the component 102b without such a configuration. it can.
In yet another embodiment, a separate stand-alone DREI 150 c is used, which is different from the avionics component 110 and the output component 104. In this embodiment, the component groups that are incompatible when the DREI is not used can communicate with each other via the intermediate DREI 150c. The DREI of this embodiment incorporates yet another function into the DREI so that it can communicate with the avionics system 110. In addition, in any of these configurations, multiple different physical or logical interfaces can be realized by incorporating multiple DREIs.
The embodiment shown in FIG. 1 shows three applications of DREI in different configurations. In other embodiments, only one DREI can be incorporated, or some other combination not shown in FIG. Further, the plurality of DREIs can be incorporated as any one of the above configurations. Furthermore, DREI can be involved in the operation of converting the protocol of data from one protocol to another. Thus, the DREI may be implemented with a known data communication protocol such as, but not limited to, a microcomputer bus (eg, peripheral component interconnect “PCI” bus). For example, the DREI 150a can be implemented as a board that plugs into a computer and communicates via an internal computer bus.
The principles herein can be adapted to a wide variety of purposes and can be applied to a variety of other communication schemes that are not limited to avionics and can be incorporated into different components. This can include other systems, which are typically numerous interfaces mounted on automobiles, ships, trains, military transport vehicles, consumer electronics, appliances, building control systems, power control systems, etc. including.
FIG. 2 shows one embodiment of the DREI 200. This embodiment shows a two-way communication device in which the DREI receives incoming information and sends outgoing information. Typically, the information supplied to / provided from the DREI is in digital form and, for example, the term “messages” can be used to represent control information defined in the application interface, This application interface can be used to transmit commands or data. Those skilled in the art can adapt the principles of the present disclosure and apply them to the reception and generation of digital messages as well as analog signals.
The DREI 200 receives an input signal 241a associated with a particular communication protocol and, in one embodiment, processes the input signal and sends the corresponding signal, or response signal, to a common bi-directional I / O system interface. 201 can be transmitted. Similarly, the DREI 200 can receive information at the common I / O system interface 201 and generate an interface-specific communication output signal 241b. In other embodiments, the DREI may manipulate the received signal or generate the output signal 241b on its own. This same DREI 200 can be reprogrammed or reconfigured as needed for the various types of dedicated communication protocols used for input / output 241. Input signals 241a, 241b can be transmitted and received by differential signal transmission, or in other embodiments, transmitted and received by single-ended signal transmission. In addition, a plurality of different input signals can be received.
For the sake of illustration, assume that the input signal 241a includes a transmission signal of a specific communication protocol, and that this transmission signal is received by the DREI 200. These signals can be transmitted over a two-wire interface, and these signals are received at the input port of switch 250. The switch 250 routes these incoming signals to the signaling path conditioning component 240 via the ports 233a, or the switch 250 bypasses the signal conditioning path unit 240 and the input signal Can be routed directly to the switch 230. The signal conditioning path unit 240 adapts, alters, or otherwise adjusts the signals in the first processing stage so that these input signals are processed in the next processing component (eg, switch 230 or amplifier 222). Can be compatible with specific standards. For example, MIL-STD-1553B indicates that an incoming signal needs to be transmitted to an isolated transformer, whereas other standards do not prescribe this. Thus, the switch 250 can be used to route the incoming signal 241a to the correct signal conditioning path unit 240. In another embodiment, the input signal 241a can be received as an optical signal while the DREI 200 handles electrical signals. In this case, the signal conditioning path unit can include an optical-electrical conversion circuit. Furthermore, in another embodiment, the input signal can be changed by conditioning the signal using a step-down transformer. Other components in the signal conditioning path can limit, change, or protect against the voltage level present at input 241a, or change the current or impedance characteristics.
Once the signals are modified by the signal conditioning path unit 240, these signals are received at the port 231 of the second switch. The switch 230 functions to transmit the differential signals 225a, 225b to the respective correct amplifier 222a or 222b. In other embodiments, the switch 230 may not be provided, but by incorporating this function, flexibility can be increased as will be understood from the following description. The input line or output line can be dynamically reconfigured by the switch 230 and the processor 204 sends the switch 230 (in addition to the switch 250) to the switch 230 via the control line 207. Control using a control signal or switch control command. For example, if the DREI 200 handles two separate inputs 241a, the switch 230 and the switch 250 can facilitate this capability and route the corresponding input signal to the two signal conditioning path units. be able to. In another embodiment, if these input signals are received on line 241b rather than 241a, the processor 204 commands the inputs 241b by commanding the switch accordingly via the control line 207. Can accept. The switch is controlled in this embodiment by the processor 204 generating a switch control signal, but in other embodiments the switch can be controlled by an external input. For example, the control input 202 to the processor 204 can be expanded to directly control the switch 230 and / or the switch 250.
The resulting conditioned input signal or the modified input signal is provided as an input signal to the signal level adjustment unit 220, which in one embodiment includes operational amplifiers 222a, 222b. Prepare. In this embodiment, operational amplifier 222a receives the incoming signal and generates a further modified signal, which is the voltage-adjusted signal that appears on output line 213. The appropriate adjustment level can be controlled by the processor 204 using an amplifier control signal appearing on the control line 207. In this embodiment, the control line 207 multiplexes various controls and transmits them to the signal conditioning unit 220 and the switches 230 and 250, but another group of control lines can be used. The amplifier 222a further modifies the signal and ensures that the signal level supplied from the amplifier output 213 is normalized to the predicted level. Thus, any input signal 241a can be read by an analog-to-digital converter (“ADC”) 210 regardless of whether the input signal is in optical, wireless, or electrical form. The signal level is converted into an electric signal having a certain level. In one embodiment, the input signal level to the ADC 210 is typically below the maximum input level that the ADC can process to provide an accurate value. If not below the maximum input level, a single numerical value is assigned to the level above the ADC input. This can be tolerated in some embodiments.
The amplifier output 213 is received by the ADC 210. The ADC 210 receives an analog signal and converts the analog signal into a digital value. The ADC 210 converts the voltage signal into a number that is sent to the processor 204 via line 203. The ADC 210 needs to be capable of digitizing the input fast enough so that changing incoming information transmitted to the processor 204 is not lost. This speed depends on the nature of the output 213.
The processor 204 then verifies that the message is sent over the interface 241a by applying appropriate communication processing rules to determine the appropriate syntax, meaning, and procedure. Specifically, the processor 204 stores one or more communication library routines to determine the corresponding signal level, timing, and encoding scheme to be used so that the processor 204 can input any message to the DREI. It can be ascertained whether it was transmitted with signal 241 a and which protocol procedure can be applied to determine whether input signal 241 a needs to be interpreted based on the numerical value received by processor 204. In certain embodiments, the processor 204 automatically reconfigures itself based on the incoming signals it detects and compares the characteristics of these incoming signals to a known characteristic table to interface. decide. The processor can report the interface to another processing entity or select and use the appropriate communication library routine.
The processor 204 can convert this information via the common I / O interface 201, and the I / O interface 201 can be formalized according to another standard (eg, PCI bus). The interface 201 can be a backplane or data bus of a known computing architecture, including, but not limited to, a Virtual Memory Extension (“VME”), Micro Channel Architecture (Microchannel architecture: “MCA”) or Peripheral Component Interconnect (“Peripheral Component Interconnect:“ PCI ”)”. Alternatively, the processor 204 can be equipped with other application level control logic to handle received messages (eg, the processor can manipulate the received information). In this case, there is no need for processor 204 to relay the information to another entity.
For purposes of illustration, assume that some other component, such as avionics controller 110, responds to processor 204 via interface 201. The processor 204 can use the stored program information in the memory 214 to determine application-specific information to be transmitted. The memory can be in various ways known in the art and can be integrated as a processor in the same integrated circuit or stored in a separate circuit. The memory can be various types of volatile memory or non-volatile memory.
If the incoming message that appears at the interface 241a is a request for a particular type of data, for example, the processor can route the request to another component of the avionics controller 110 via the interface 201. This component responds to the processor 204 via the interface 201 with the requested data. Depending on the specific interface 241a, the response can be sent by the processor 204 via the output 241b in a specific manner. The processor 204 determines the appropriate message to use, encoding scheme, timing, etc. based on the instruction library corresponding to each electrical interface. In some embodiments, a situation can occur where the interface 241a on which the input signal appears is a different electrical interface than the output interface 241b.
Next, note the process by which the processor 204 generates a response (or output signal) that appears on line 241b. The processor 204 generates an appropriate numerical value and sends it via line 205 to a digital-to-analog converter (“DAC” 212), which in response generates a discrete voltage level signal. This value is an appropriate value representing an appropriate signal after subsequent units have been processed. For example, if the processor wants to send a “101” digital bitstream with a specific time length, voltage, and timing, the processor generates appropriate values and presents these values to the DAC 212. . The DAC in turn converts the digital value into a signal with the appropriate analog voltage level (more specifically, to one of the various discrete voltage levels approximating the analog voltage wave).
This time, amplifier 222b generates the appropriate amplified voltage signal 225b, and switch 230 connects these amplified voltage signal 225b to signal conditioning path unit 240 via port 231b. The amplifier 222b is again controlled by the processor using the amplifier control signal 207 so that the output level is appropriate for the communication interface 241b. For example, if logic “1” is represented by a 15V signal with a specific time period, the amplifier 222b is set to amplify the input signal to a 15V signal. The processor 204 controls the length of time by providing an appropriate output signal to the DAC 212 over a corresponding length of time.
The amplified output voltage of the DAC is supplied to the signal conditioning path unit 240 via the switch 230 as necessary. This signal conditioning path unit incorporates the appropriate components to generate the appropriate type of signal at the required level. For example, if the output signal has optical properties, these signal conditioning path units can have electro-optic converters. Other signaling path conditioning components can ensure that proper impedance, current, voltage, etc. appear at the output. In this way, the processor can generate a wide variety of signal levels, defining these signal levels and transmitting a particular message over the interface 241b with a particular communication protocol.
In certain embodiments, signal conditioning is not necessary. In this case, the output of the switch 230 appearing at the port 231b can bypass the signal conditioning path unit 240 when no signal conditioning path unit is required. Thus, the output can be routed directly to the switch 250. Alternatively, a “null” signal conditioning path function can be defined as performed by the signal conditioning path unit, thereby effectively achieving the same result. When the signal conditioning path unit 240 is not bypassed, the output is supplied to the signal conditioning path unit 240 via the port 231a of the switch 230. The output of the signal conditioning path unit 240 can be supplied to the port 233a of the switch 250, which provides the output signal 241b.
The processor 204 may be a general purpose microprocessor, a special purpose programmed microprocessor, an application specific integrated circuit, or other type of system on chip (“SOC”) processor. Other types of processors are possible. In other embodiments, the ADC (s) and DAC (s) can be integrated into the processor and can be implemented using a digital signal processor or other special purpose device. As previously described, the memory storing rules for processing and generating input / output signals can be integrated into the processor 204 or stored in a memory 214 provided external to the processor 204.
In other embodiments, the processor may be a field programmable gate array, and ADCs and DACs may be integrated in the field programmable gate array. Further, in various embodiments, the amplifier 220 and / or the switches 230, 250 can be integrated into the component group. One skilled in the art will recognize that other embodiments are possible.
In summary, the operations performed by apparatus 200 for processing input signals received at interface 241a are illustrated as summary 300 in FIG. 3A. It should be understood that more or fewer operations can be performed than those illustrated in FIG. 3A and described herein. Further, these operations can be performed in an order different from the order described herein. The input signal received at interface 241a at step 300 is routed and conditioned at switch 250 at step 301 to ensure that the electrical type input signal matches the upstream processing components within apparatus 200. To. In some other embodiments, signal routing may bypass the signaling conditioning unit. The conditioning performed in step 302 can convert the signal type or electrical characteristics such as voltage, current, and impedance. In step 304, the resulting conditioned signal is then fed to another switching element that routes the output to the appropriate amplifier. In step 306, the selected amplifier can receive the signal and amplify the signal to an appropriate signal level, which remains analog, so that the signal level is equal to the ADC level. Can be processed. In step 308, the ADC converts the analog signal to a signal having a digital value (eg, having one discrete value of a plurality of discrete values), and the digital value is processed by the processor in step 310; Check which information is received. Specifically, in this process, information on syntax, meaning, and procedure can be taken out and it can be confirmed which message is transmitted. At this point, the processor has successfully received the input signal and can recognize the information transmitted with the corresponding communication protocol.
The operation of the processor to process the numerical value presented in the DREI and appearing at the input port 241a depends on the particular communication interface being incorporated. The processor typically compares the value (which represents the signal level), applicable coding scheme, timing information, and other formats to determine whether a logical “0” or “1” was transmitted. Check. If additional bits are identified, the processor applies yet another rule that defines the specific framing structure used to transmit the message with that protocol, and verifies the content of the message within the framing structure. can do. Those skilled in the art will recognize that for each communication protocol, the processor can perform a separate and distinct process to recognize the syntax and meaning transmitted and terminate the process as shown in step 312. You will recognize.
The operations performed by the apparatus 200 to process the output signal appearing at the interface 241b are shown in the overview 350 of FIG. 3B. It should be understood that more or fewer operations can be performed in the process of FIG. 3B as compared to the operations shown in FIG. 3A and described herein. In step 352, the processor provides a digital value that can be used to ascertain a corresponding output signal appearing on the interface 241b corresponding to the corresponding electrical interface. This numerical value is supplied to the DAC in step 354, and the DAC converts the numerical value into an analog output. In step 356, the analog output is supplied to an amplifier, which amplifies the signal based on the control information supplied from the processor. In step 358, the amplified signal is supplied to a switch that routes the amplified signal to the conditioning device. In step 360, the conditioning device conditions the signal as needed and provides an output signal to the output interface of the conditioning device. In step 361, another switch receives the output signal and routes the output signal to the appropriate output port. At this point, the processor has successfully generated the output signal based on the electrical interface specification for the corresponding communication protocol.
The configuration shown in FIG. 2 is one embodiment that can handle a single input communication interface with both an input 241a function and an output 241b function. Other embodiments can use only inputs or only outputs.
In many embodiments, multiple communication interfaces are provided, each interface including an input and an output. It is desirable to communicate with a wide variety of different communication devices of various interfaces simultaneously or at different times using multiple communication protocols of interface 241. One such architecture 400 is shown in FIG. 4A. This embodiment shows yet another advantage and flexibility.
In this embodiment, the processor 204 may store instructions in the memory 214 to handle two or more communication protocols that may be different, or else access the instructions. In this embodiment, switch 450, signal conditioning path unit 440a, switch 430, amplifier and ADC / DAC assembly 420a are in communication with processor 204 as described in connection with FIG. However, the ADC / DAC and amplifier components 420a are replicated n times as indicated by assembly 420n. Each assembly 420 is connected to a switch 430 and can be connected to a specific signal conditioning path unit 440n (or can bypass the signal conditioning path unit 440n), and then to interfaces 441a-441n. Can be connected. Thus, interface 441a can be, for example, one interface type, and interface 441n can be another interface type. This allows the processor to handle two or more different types of interfaces simultaneously, or can be multiplexed in time. The ability to handle different signal conditioning path requirements for each interface is also an advantage of the architecture shown in FIG. 4A.
Further, the processor 204 can be configured using instructions for the interface 402 as to which protocol to use for the interfaces 441a and 441n. The processor then applies the appropriate instruction set and processes the input / output according to the appropriate protocol. Thus, the processor can handle different communication protocols corresponding to the interfaces 441a and 441n by dynamically programming. In another embodiment, an instruction set for handling a particular communication protocol can be downloaded to the processor 204 as needed. Thus, a newly developed protocol that makes a signaling request can be accommodated by the system 400 by downloading appropriate protocol processing instructions to the processor.
Depending on which interface 441a-441n is to be associated with which protocol, the switch 430 and switch 450 are directed via control lines 431a and 431b, respectively, to direct the signal to the appropriate amplifier / ADC / DAC assembly 420 and It can be routed to the signal conditioning path unit 440. Thus, the system can be easily reconfigured to handle any input (or output) of a given interface line 441a, 441b.
FIG. 4B shows a portion of the architecture of FIG. 4A and further shows one device for connecting the connection contacts of switches 430 and 450. In this embodiment, these switches can have a function similar to a relay switch, which either connects and closes the circuit or disconnects and opens the circuit. is there. In FIG. 4B, the interface 441a includes a signal 443a corresponding to the input and a signal 441b corresponding to the output. When instructed, switch 450 connects leads 460a, 461a to leads 460b, 461b. Thus, the output is provided corresponding to the output interface 443b.
However, in other embodiments, these switches can be matrix electronic switching elements that can connect any port to any port. This embodiment is shown in FIG. 4C. In FIG. 4C, the interface 441a again comprises a set of inputs and outputs, but the input group 443 and output group 447 are not necessarily arranged as shown in FIG. 4B. In this embodiment, a set of input groups and output groups can be defined as one interface. In this case, the switch 450 can switch and route the signal group between the port 465b to the port 460a and the port 466b to the port 461a. This type of device can be used, for example, when a plurality of inputs and outputs corresponding to a plurality of interfaces are multiplexed on a single optical fiber. In addition, this type of device can achieve N + 1 redundancy to cope with the failure of the signal conditioning path unit. For example, if the signal conditioning path unit 440a fails, the switches 430 and 450 can be instructed to use another signal conditioning path unit (eg, 440n) instead.
Another embodiment 500 is shown in FIG. In this embodiment, the processor 504 is duplicated (504a-504n). In this embodiment, each processor 504 is illustrated as being connected to the appropriate memory 514, but in other embodiments, all of these processors can access a common memory. Further, each processor 504a-504n is in turn connected to an ADC / DAC / amplifier assembly 520a-520n and interconnected to a common switch 530. This switch is now connected to n signal conditioning path units 540a-540n as needed. The output group of the signal conditioning path unit is supplied to another switch 550, which then presents signals to interfaces 541a-541n as needed. In this embodiment, each processor 504 is configured to handle a particular interface 541. With this architecture, a unit with n processors and n interfaces can be configured to handle n different communication protocols.
From these figures above, a single dynamically reconfigurable interface structure (eg, system 200, 400, or 500) can be easily adapted to handle one or more communication protocols. Is obvious. A single interface structure can read instructions into storage, and these instructions are used by the processor to handle a particular communication interface ("Protocol A"). In this way, such an interface structure can be easily reconfigured to fit another communication interface (“Protocol B”). This can be done by using the same interface structure 200 and instead reconfiguring the DREI with instructions corresponding to different communication interfaces ("Protocol B"). In this way, a single interface structure board can be stored in a parts warehouse and can be configured to be used in place of a wide variety of units, so that parts that support all possible interface types Can eliminate the need for storage.
It is obvious that after installing the DREI, it is possible to handle a wide variety of communication interfaces by reading a command group into the DREI (unlike reading a proper command group before installation). If a DREI functional unit is used instead of such a module, the processor can be configured with other (external) components to select and use a given communication interface. In this way, an easily reconfigurable replacement module can be defined.
The subject matter described above is provided by way of illustration only and should not be taken as limiting. Various modifications and changes may be made to the subject matter described herein, without departing from the illustrative embodiments and uses illustrated and described in the following claims and the true spirit of the disclosure And can be added without departing from the scope.
Various embodiments of the presently-disclosed subject matter provide a dynamically reconfigurable electrical interface (“DREI”) that processes a receive interface signal, the DREI being an input received at the DREI. A first switch configured to receive a signal and route the input signal; and a signal conditioning path unit adapted to receive the input signal and change an electrical characteristic of the input signal; . The signal conditioning path unit generates a first change input signal based on the input signal. The second switch is configured to receive the first change input signal at an input port. The second switch is configured to route the first change input signal of the input port to an output port based on a switch control command. The amplifier is configured to receive the first modified input signal from the output port. The amplifier is configured to generate a second change input signal by adjusting a voltage level of the first change input signal. An analog-to-digital converter (“ADC”) is configured to receive the second modified input signal. The ADC supplies a corresponding numerical value in response to the second change input signal. A processor is configured to receive the corresponding numerical value, wherein the processor is configured to confirm a communication protocol message associated with the received interface signal.
The electrical interface further comprises a memory for storing a set of instructions related to the communication protocol, the communication protocol being used by the processor to confirm messages of the communication protocol.
The processor is configured to supply an amplifier control signal to the amplifier to generate the second change input signal by adjusting the voltage level.
The amplifier may generate corresponding numerical values with different ADCs by adjusting the voltage level to generate the second change input signal.
The processor is configured by an instruction set related to the communication protocol, and controls the first switch to route the input signal to the signal conditioning path unit.
The electrical interface further comprises a plurality of amplifiers; and a plurality of ADCs, wherein each amplifier is connected to a corresponding ADC, and each corresponding ADC sends a corresponding corresponding numerical value to the processor. Configured to supply.
The processor is configured to control each one of the plurality of amplifiers.
The electrical interface further receives a second number from the processor and a digital-to-analog converter configured to generate an output voltage level; receives the output voltage level and amplifies in response thereto; A second amplifier configured to generate an output voltage level, wherein the second switch receives the amplified output voltage level at another input port and provides the amplified output voltage to another output port; And a second signal conditioning path unit adapted to provide a corresponding output signal to the first switch, the first switch including the output signal. To the output interface.
In a method of processing a plurality of input signals, the plurality of input signals having a first voltage are received by a first switch; the plurality of input signals are routed by the first switch; Received by a conditioning path unit, wherein the signal conditioning path unit changes the plurality of input signals to a plurality of corresponding second voltages; the plurality of input signals having the plurality of corresponding second voltages; A switch for routing from an input port to an output port; supplying the plurality of input signals having the plurality of second voltages to an amplifier, wherein the amplifier converts the plurality of second voltages to a plurality of corresponding third voltages; Configured to regulate; providing the plurality of input signals having the third voltage to an analog-to-digital converter ("ADC"); Supplying a plurality of numerical values in response to the third voltage; and receiving the plurality of numerical values by a processor, the processor configured to confirm a message based on a communication protocol, the processor comprising: To confirm the message based on the communication protocol.
In the method, the processor is configured to receive the instructions and confirm a plurality of messages based on the communication protocol.
In the method, the processor controls the adjustment level of the amplifier based on the instruction group.
In the method, the processor controls the switch that routes the plurality of input signals from the input port to the output port.
The method further includes generating a second number by the processor, the second number relating to an output signal associated with the communication protocol; and receiving the second number by a digital-to-analog converter (“DAC”). And the DAC supplies an output voltage in response thereto; the output voltage is received from the DAC by a second amplifier; the second amplifier supplies a second output voltage; and the second output voltage is Received by a second switch, wherein the second switch provides the second output voltage to the signal conditioning path unit; provides an output signal from the signal conditioning path unit to the first switch; and outputs the output signal. Supply from the first switch.
In the method, the processor further supplies a control signal to the second amplifier, and the second output voltage is determined by the control signal.
The method further includes receiving a communication protocol selection signal at the processor, the processor selecting an instruction set associated with the communication protocol from a memory based on the communication protocol selection signal.
An avionics data processing system comprising one or more dynamically reconfigurable electrical interface ("DREI") devices, each DREI: a memory storing a plurality of instruction sets, each instruction set comprising a plurality The memory associated with one of the plurality of communication protocols; and selecting one instruction set of the plurality of instruction sets and generating a numerical value so that a particular output signal of the DREI device A processor configured to be generated at the output interface; a digital-to-analog converter ("DAC") configured to receive the numerical value and generate a first intermediate output signal having a first voltage; An amplifier configured to receive the first intermediate output signal and to generate a second intermediate output signal having a second voltage; A first switch configured to receive a second intermediate output signal and supply the second intermediate output signal to an output port of the first switch; receive the second intermediate output signal and the output signal A signal conditioning path unit configured to generate; and a second switch configured to receive the output signal and provide the output signal to the output interface.
In the system, the processor is configured to provide an amplifier control signal that determines an amplification level for providing the second intermediate output signal.
In the system, the amplification level is determined by an instruction subset included in one instruction set of the plurality of instruction sets.
In the system, the processor is configured to provide a switching control signal that selects an output port of the second switch.
The system further comprises a plurality of amplifiers configured to receive a plurality of numerical values associated with the plurality of communication protocols.
A dynamically reconfigurable electrical interface (“DREI”) (200) that processes the receive interface signal (241a):
A first switch (250) configured to receive an input signal (241a) received at the DREI (200) and route the input signal;
A signal conditioning path unit (240) adapted to receive the input signal and to change an electrical characteristic of the input signal, the signal conditioning path unit (240) receiving a first modified input signal as the input The signal conditioning path unit (240) to generate based on the signal (241a);
A second switch (230) configured to receive the first change input signal at an input port (231a), wherein the second switch (230) is the first change of the input port (231a). The second switch (230) configured to route an input signal to an output port (225a) based on a switch control command;
An amplifier (222a) configured to receive the first change input signal from the output port (225a), wherein the amplifier (222a) adjusts the voltage level of the first change input signal to adjust the voltage level of the first change input signal. The amplifier (222a) configured to generate two change input signals (213);
An analog-to-digital converter ("ADC") (210) configured to receive the second modified input signal (213), wherein the ADC (210) changes a corresponding numerical value to the second modified input signal (213). The analog-to-digital converter ("ADC") (210), which is supplied in response to an input signal (213);
A processor (204) configured to receive the corresponding numerical value, the processor (204) configured to confirm a message of a communication protocol associated with the reception interface signal (241a); A dynamically reconfigurable electrical interface ("DREI") (200) comprising the processor (204).
Further comprising a memory (214) storing an instruction set associated with the communication protocol, wherein the processor (204) uses the communication protocol to verify the message of the communication protocol;
The electrical interface of claim 1.
The processor (204) is configured to generate the second modified input signal (213) by supplying an amplifier control signal to the amplifier (222a) to adjust the voltage level. Or the electrical interface of 2.
The amplifier (222a) adjusts the voltage level to generate the second modified input signal (213) so that the ADC (210) can generate different corresponding numerical values. The electrical interface as described in any one of thru | or 3.
The processor (204) is configured by an instruction set related to the communication protocol, and controls the first switch (25) to route the input signal (241a) to the signal conditioning path unit (240). The electrical interface according to any one of claims 1 to 4, wherein the electrical interface is configured to.
A plurality of amplifiers (222a);
A plurality of ADCs, and each amplifier (222a) is connected to a corresponding ADC (210), and each corresponding ADC (210) supplies a corresponding numerical value to the processor (204). The electrical interface according to claim 1, wherein the electrical interface is configured as follows.
The electrical interface of claim 6, wherein the processor (204) is configured to control each one of the plurality of amplifiers (222a).
A digital-to-analog converter (212) configured to receive a second numerical value from the processor (204) and generate an output voltage level (215);
A second amplifier (222b) configured to receive the output voltage level (215) and generate an amplified output voltage level (225b) accordingly, wherein the second switch (230) is The second amplifier (222b) configured to receive an amplified output voltage level (225b) at another input port (231b) and supply the amplified output voltage to another output port (231b);
A second signal conditioning path unit (440n) adapted to supply a corresponding output signal to the first switch (250), wherein the first switch (250) outputs the output signal (241b); The electrical interface according to claim 7 or 6, further comprising the second signal conditioning path unit (440n) for feeding to an interface.
A method for processing multiple input signals:
Receiving (300) the plurality of input signals (241a) having a first voltage at a first switch (250);
Routing (301) the plurality of input signals (241a) with the first switch (250);
Receiving the plurality of input signals (241a) at a signal conditioning path unit (240) that changes the plurality of input signals (241a) to a plurality of corresponding second voltages; (302);
Routing (304) the plurality of input signals having the plurality of corresponding second voltages from the input port (231a) to the output port (231a) with a second switch (230);
Supplying the plurality of input signals having the plurality of second voltages to an amplifier, the amplifier (222a) adjusting the plurality of second voltages to a plurality of corresponding third voltages (213); Said supplying (306), configured as follows:
Supplying the plurality of input signals having the third voltage group to an analog-to-digital converter ("ADC") (210) (308), wherein the ADC (210) outputs a plurality of numerical values to the first value; Supplying according to three voltages (213), said supplying (308);
Receiving (310) the plurality of numerical values by a processor (204), wherein the processor (204) is configured to confirm a message based on a communication protocol, wherein the processor (204) Performing the step of confirming the message based on the communication protocol, and receiving (310).
The method of claim 9, wherein the processor (204) is configured to receive the instructions and confirm a plurality of messages based on the communication protocol.
The method according to any one of claims 1 to 10, wherein the processor (204) controls the adjustment level of the amplifier (222a) based on the group of instructions.
12. A method according to any one of the preceding claims, wherein the processor (204) controls the switch that routes the plurality of input signals from the input port to the output port.
Generating (352) by the processor (204) a second numerical value associated with an output signal associated with the communication protocol;
The second numerical value is received (354) by a digital-to-analog converter ("DAC") (212), wherein the DAC (212) provides an output voltage accordingly (see above). 354) and
The second amplifier (222b) receives the output voltage from the DAC (212) (356), and the second amplifier (222b) supplies the second output voltage (receive) (356). 356),
Receiving the second output voltage at the second switch (230), wherein the second switch (230) supplies the second output voltage to the signal conditioning path unit (240). And
Supplying an output signal from the signal conditioning path unit (240) to the first switch (250);
Providing the output signal from the first switch (250);
The method according to claim 1, further comprising:
14. The method of claim 13, further comprising the processor (204) providing a control signal to the second amplifier (222b), wherein the second output voltage is determined by the control signal.
Receiving a communication protocol selection signal at the processor (204), wherein the processor (204) selects an instruction set associated with the communication protocol from a memory (214) based on the communication protocol selection signal; The method according to claim 9 or 10.
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Posted in WAKE UP FYI tagged animals, asthma, autism, bacteria, blood, brain tumors, cancer, chicken, cow, Diabetes, exposure, feces, flies, humans, mercury, monkey pus, monkeys, MS, needles, non hodgkins lymphoma, pig, polio, poo, poop, shots, SIDS, small pox, thimerosal, vaccine, viral, viral cell, virus at 5:50 pm by PCOSLady
This post all came about from a friend telling me about monkey pus recently… I know some of you can benefit knowing the bits of information contained in this piece… Note the links and visit them… I did copy and paste the whole article since many disappear over the years…
The great thimerosal cover-up: Mercury, vaccines, autism and your …
www.naturalnews.com/011764_thimerosal_mercury.html
~ Natural News … Sep 22, 2005 – Thimerosal is the preservative of choice for vaccine manufacturers. First introduced by Eli Lilly and Company in the late 1920s and early 1930s, …
~ Thimerosal is 50% mercury…
Heavy Metal Cleanse every 3 years comes to mind!
* THINK TWICE BEFORE GETTING VACCINES, ETC… SERIOUSLY THINK! *
* Your pharmacist is your best friend! *
http://www.naturalnews.com/033834_vaccines_ingredients.html
How vaccines are made: Monkey kidneys, spinal material, animal pus and more
by Kaitlyn Moore
(NaturalNews) The issues surrounding the dangers of vaccines require a look into how they are made and to what we are exposing ourselves to. So, what are vaccinations exactly?
Generally speaking, vaccinations are inoculations that attempt to confer immunity against a specific disease. Our anti-body defenses are stimulated when weakened versions of bacteria or viruses are injected into our system.
Bacterial vaccinations are grown in petri dishes but viral vaccinations require a live host. Recent medical advances have widened the sphere of what “live host” actually means (http://www.nae.edu/Publications/Bridge/EngineeringandVaccineProductio…).
Edward Jenner, credited with discovering the small pox vaccine, observed that milkmaids who had been infected with cowpox ended up immune to smallpox. Jenner’s first “inoculation” was completed by injecting an 8 year old with the pus from the lesions of a milkmaid with cowpox (http://www.experiment-resources.com/who-invented-vaccination.html).
Modern Day Vaccinations
Tragically, even with all of the strides made in modern medicine, vaccination preparation has actually gotten worse. Original vaccinations were contrived by using the infected matter from another human being and introducing it into the body.
Trouble began once animals began to be used as hosts. Enter Dr. Jonas Salk and the race to develop a commercially viable polio vaccine. Salk and his peers concocted from a mad scientist brew of ingredients including the minced up spinal cord from a 9-year-old deceased patient, water, blood, flies, feces, and human cell matter. This mixture was injected into the brains of monkeys, most of which died instantly or became paralyzed.
Undaunted, Salk plugged away eventually creating the commercial version of the polio vaccine, developed in part from “the feces of three healthy children in Cleveland.”
Ironically this infamous father of the polio vaccine just recently was exposed for his role in illegal experiments on mental patients(http://www.naturalnews.com/031564_Jonas_Salk_medical_experiments.html).
While today’s formulations don’t contain feces, they are still derived from live hosts including cows, monkeys, pigs, chicken embryos, and human diploid cell.
Cell matter is extracted from these hosts, combined with toxic chemicals like Thimerosol (mercury), formaldehyde, aluminum hydroxide and a variety of other substances, before being injected into our bodies (http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/exci… and www.vaclib.org/pdf/vaxcont2.pdf). The side effects are autism, diabetes, asthma, MS, SIDS, and more.
Vaccine Pollution
The viral cell matter presents a significant health risk due to the plethora of dangerous animal viruses, RNA, DNA, and other foreign material that can’t be filtered out of the final preparation.
Award winning journalist Janine Roberts, author of Fear of the Invisible and a host of other papers developing into the truth behind vaccine development, discovered that “vaccines are not filtered clean, but suspension from the manufacturers incubation tanks in which the viruses are produced from substrates of mashed bird embryo, minced monkey kidneys, or the infamous cloned human diploid cells only scanned for a few known contaminates – while the unknowns remain just that — unknown.”
Even worse, the government has provided legal protection to the vaccine industry and their polluted products via FDA regulations, more specifically 21 CFR.
“Virus interaction can’t be controlled — by their very nature they are mutating organisms. There is a well-founded concern that these animal viruses are able to cross species lines and adapt to their new host environment.”
Dr. Leonard Hayflick, a virologist at both Stanford and the University of California at San Francisco raised a concern that the common primary culture used for making vaccines with animals and bird embryos has created a situation where it is “apparent that these cells contained many unwanted viruses, some of which were lethal to humans.” (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15452)
For instance the SV40 virus that originates in monkeys made its way into the human population via the polio vaccination and has been tied to cancer non Hodgkin’s lymphoma and brain tumors(http://www.informedchoice.info/polio.html) (http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/vaccine_awareness/through_the_nee…).
The World Health Organization is aware that MMR vaccines are tainted with avian leukosis virus that has been linked with leukemia (http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/98/transcpt/3476t1.pdf) (pg 19) and Rotatrix is one of the most recent vaccinations exposed as being contaminated with DNA matter from animals- in that case pigs(http://vaccineawakening.blogspot.com/2010/04/vaccine-contamination-pi…).
Government Duplicity
In response to questions regarding the safety of vaccinations, a governmental official answered that, “safety issues would then have to be considered based on the nature of that material. We would hope that they would select materials that would be more amenable or pose less of a risk, but that may not always be the case.” (http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/98/transcpt/3476t1.pdf)
However, the American government remains steadfast in its assurances to the American public that vaccinations are required to keep your children healthy (http://www.vaccines.gov/).
Yet, the risk has been great enough for Congress to enact the Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986, which provides monetary relief for the hundreds of people that file claims for vaccine related injury or death.
The truth about vaccines is like most things – money talks. The vaccination industry made over 29 billion dollars in 2009 and is slated to make 54 billion by 2016 (http://centerforvaccineethicsandpolicy.wordpress.com/2010/01/17/globa…).
A certain amount of this profit is used to payoff medical advisors to support pro-vaccination campaigns (http://www.naturalnews.com/029441_vaccine_manufacturers_advisors.html).
The government’s shameful cosigning of pharmaceutical companies bid to increase profits and reduce lawsuits is evidence that not much has changed when it comes to governmental policy and its effect on citizens(http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/drugs-medical/vaccine-p…).
What the pharmaceutical La Cosa Nostra does its very best to hide is that the key to overcoming diseases is not vaccinations but the backbones of good health — nutrition, cleanliness, and clean water.
“The most likely factors leading to health improvements are a rise in the levels of nutrition and the slow spread of modern ideas of personal hygiene. The principal factor behind the improvement in health, in developing countries is probably not any form of health measure, but economic development itself. Mere exposure to a disease agent need not produce clinical disease and very frequently does not do so.”
Malnutrition is of the highest importance because it hampers the body’s natural resistance and acts “synergistically” with disease agents to increase the incidence and severity of clinical diseases.
Think long and hard before you opt for the next round of vaccinations, the result could be more than you bargained for.
Sharpston M.J., Health and the Human Environment, in (Ghosh P.K. editor) Health, Food and Nutrition in Third World Development, International Development Resource Book No. 6, Greenword Press, Westport, Conn., U.S.A., 1984, pp. 85 and 80. (http://www.whale.to/vaccine/obomsawin3.html )
Fear of the invisible (http://www.scribd.com/doc/49973741/Dangerous-Impurities) J. Roberts/Medical Veritas 5 (2008) 1897-1905.
http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/drugs-medical/vaccine-profit-00087.html?opt=b&utm_expid=3607522-0&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.naturalnews.com%2Fz033834_vaccines_ingredients.html#.UQv7hq6wVHg
~ Lawyers and Settlements … Vaccinating For Profit – From Cradle to Coffin … Due to the flooding of special education classrooms, along with the rising medical costs of treating injured children, local taxes will soon go through the roof, at which time the public will be forced to face the unthinkable truth about the poisoned generation.
And when that happens, government officials had better not even think about trying to feign ignorance because parents, scientists, and medical experts have been screaming about the epidemic in vaccine injuries, from one end of the country to the other, since the 1990s, and the fact is that lawmakers knowingly allowed it to happen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synergy
~ Wilipedia … Drug synergy ~ Drug synergy occurs when drugs can interact in ways that enhance or magnify one or more effects, or side-effects, of those drugs. This is sometimes exploited in combination preparations, such as codeine mixed with acetaminophen or ibuprofen to enhance the action of codeine as a pain reliever. Some drugs users frequently utilize 5-HTP, a serotonin precursor often used as an antidepressant, prior to and after ingestion of MDMA. It is said to increase the “high” and decreases the “comedown” stages of MDMA use, although most anecdotal evidence has pointed to 5-HTP significantly altering the effect of MDMA when used at the same time, as well as potentiating the side effects associated with serotonin syndrome). Other examples include the use of Cannabis with LSD, where the active chemicals in cannabis have been reported to enhance the hallucinatory experience of LSD..
Negative effects of synergy are a form of contraindication. For example, a combination of depressant drugs that affect the central nervous system (CNS), such as alcohol and Valium, can cause a greater reaction than simply the sum of the individual effects of each drug if they were used separately. In this particular case, the most serious consequence of drug synergy is exaggerated respiratory depression, which can be fatal if left untreated. Mixing drugs can produce potentially fatal reactions within the brain, such as serotonin syndrome, due to synergistic reactions changing chemical and receptor activity. In the case of Monoamine oxidase inhibitor (MAOI) medications, mainly used as last-straw antidepressants, mixing certain foods and drugs may cause hypertension or hyperserotonemia.
Drug synergy can occur both in biological activity and because of pharmacokinetics. Shared metabolic enzymes can cause drugs to remain in the bloodstream much longer in higher concentrations than if individually taken.
Mercury Destroys Nerves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VImCpWzXJ_w
~ The Univiersity of Calgary Medical School {Canada} … How Mercury Causes Neurodegeneration (Brain Damage)
~ Uploaded on Nov 2, 2006
~ Amazing video illustrating with actual images of brain fibers being destroyed by mercury (the 2nd most toxic substance in our planet…
~ There is NO healthy dose of mercury!!!). Amazing 3D imagery, from The Univiersity of Calgary Medical School {Canada} this is a MUST WATCH!!!
www.iaomtg.org
www.noamalgam.com
www.neuraltherapy.com
www.mercuryexposure.org
www.generationrescue.org
http://www.whale.to/vaccines.html
http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/
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Do elves have surnames? [duplicate]
Why do only Hobbits use a combination of first- and last names? (1 answer)
Do elves have surnames/family name? For instance what is the surname or famous elves like Galadriel, Arwen, Legolas, ...
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Think about this a little deeper - if I remember correctly only hobbits have surnames! – Liath Oct 28 '14 at 9:45
Related question perhaps but not already answered. The answer Why do only Hobbits use a combination of first- and lastname? is interesting but doesn't answer to this question. – Bastien Vandamme Oct 28 '14 at 13:53
Just like modern humans, the various peoples of Middle-Earth all have different naming conventions. In fact the only people in Middle Earth to have family names analogous to the common (but not universal) modern format of Firstname Lastname are the Hobbits of The Shire (Bilbo Baggins, Peregrin Took) and presumably also of Bree (the Underhills) and the Men of Bree (Barliman Butterman).
So, NO, none of the Elves (Galadriel, Arwen or Legolas) had "family names" as we understand them. However, they did have second names and epithets that were often used in the same FirstName LastName format as the usual modern usage of Surnames.
The naming tradition of the Valinorian Elves - such as Galadriel and the elves of The Silmarillion, the essë, gave an Elf three different names at various times of the lives.
Essi: chosen by the father and often based on the father's own name or derived from old legends. Given at or near birth. Galadriel's father-name was Artanis meaning "Noble Woman" in Noldolin Quenya. Maedhros's father-name was Nelyafinwë (literally Finwë the Third).
Amilessë: chosen by the mother and often prophetic in nature. Given sometimes at or near birth but often bestowed years later. Galadriel's mother-name was Nerwen meaning "Man-Maiden" in Noldolin Quenya (referring to her height and bold character). Maedhros's mother-name was Maitimo (the "Well-Shaped One" was known to be good-looking)
Epessë: often acquired by an Elf as an honorific later in life. Galadriel's epessë was Alatáriel meaning "Maiden Crowned with Radiant Garland" in Telerin Quenya, given to her by Celeborn, her husband. Maedhros's epessë was Russandol ("Copper-Top" - he was a rare red-headed elf).
When these Valinorian elves made their way to Middle-Earth, where Sindarin was the common elven tongue, they adopted Sindarinized versions of their names. So Alatáriel became Galadriel and Maitimo / Russandol became Maedhros.
Both Maedhros and Galadriel, like most other elves in the era of the Silmarillion are referred to with those single names only, without their names being doubled in the FN LN format anywhere in the canon, though Maedhros was sometimes called "Maedhros the Tall".
On the other hand, one of the exceptions was Galadriel's brother Finrod. He was known as Finrod Felagund - the former part being the Sindarized version of his father-name and the latter part being the Sindarized version of an epessë given to him by Dwarves - Felakgundu meaning "Hewer of Caves".
We do not know if Arwen was her father-name or mother-name, or if the later day elves in Rivendell even still followed this tradition at the time of her birth, but she does have an epessë, Undomiel and she was often referred formally as Arwen Undomiel. As such the name Undomiel serves as part of a double name in the format of FirstName LastName, but is not a true surname since it is unique to her and does not refer to the family.
Legolas had no ancestry from the Valinorian Elves and we do not have much information on the naming customs of the Sindar and the Silvan elves, among whose numbers Legolas would be counted. He is almost always referred to as Legolas, in the singular, except for the one time when Gandalf calls him Legolas Greenleaf, which again serves as adequate example of FirstName LastName format. However, "Greenleaf" is simply the literal English translation of "Legolas", so again, it cannot be counted as a true surname.
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Legolas is also referred to (in the movie, at least, I don't recall if he's called this in the book) as Legolas Thranduilion, which just means, "Legolas, son of Thranduil". This is a similar construction that eventually gave us surnames like Robertson, Johnson, Fredrickson, etc. – Roger Oct 28 '14 at 14:04
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Love can only conquer so much pain
By Elizabeth Cook
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Published 12:00 am Thursday, January 9, 2020
“Holding on to Nothing,” by Elizabeth Chiles Shelburne, Blair Publishing, 257 pages, $25.95.
For the Salisbury Post
The characters in Elizabeth Shelburne’s debut novel sound like clichés from a country music song — a hard-drinking man, a good-hearted woman and a small-town scandal— but their heartbreak feels all too real.
Shelburne, who grew up in East Tennessee, writes as though she knows these flawed people, and the empathetic treatment she gives them raises “Holding on to Nothing” to a high level. This is a “Hillbilly Elegy” told in fictional form, a form that lays open the heart. It’s a compelling story layered with painful truths.
The lovers’ story starts with a bad decision.
In a weak and drunken moment, Lucy Kilgore climbs into the back seat of Jeptha Taylor’s Camaro for a wanton fling. The two barely know each other. While Lucy has been scraping together bar-waitress tips to go to Knoxville, Jeptha busied himself living down to his family’s reputation as good-for-nothing drunks.
Still, Jeptha has secretly held a place in his heart for Lucy ever since the day in high school when he first saw her warm smile. His mandolin playing at the bar where she works finally makes her pay him more than passing notice.
He calls her after their backseat passion, and his voice breaks as he asks her out.
Lucy, who regretted their encounter the second it was over, pities him.
“She’d understood then that she had not only done something mind-blowingly stupid, she had done it with a guy who — despite all evidence to the contrary — turned out to think it might actually mean something.”
Lucy turns Jeptha down. Within weeks she’s taking pregnancy test after pregnancy test, all giving the answer she dreads. She’s pregnant.
This was not part of Lucy’s plan — nor even her persona. Despite her smile, Lucy lives a wary and cautious existence. She lost her parents in a car crash she was 13 and feels every bit the orphan. Living with her mother’s best friend, LouEllen, Lucy has been singlemindedly working toward the dream her parents had for her — college. She’s days away from leaving town.
Her rare drunken moment with Jeptha changes all that.
The pregnancy throws Jeptha off course, too. Heavy drinking is about all he knows, that and hunting and occasionally working in the tobacco fields he owns with his brother and sister.
When Lucy decides to give Jeptha a chance, he shows up more than an hour late for their first date, drunk after spending the afternoon with a buddy.
But bringing a baby into the picture gives Jeptha new focus. Lucy wants a family, even if it’s not the family of her dreams. Despite the doubts of all their friends — “I’m the kind of mistake a girl should run away from as fast as she can,” Jeptha says — they marry.
The doubters include LouEllen, whose protective instincts go on high alert when Jeptha enters Lucy’s life. “He is going to break you,” she warns Lucy. “Your heart, your spirit, something. You don’t take a chance on a Taylor. Like it says in Jeremiah, a leopard can’t change its spots.”
But, oh, how Jeptha tries. He doubles down on his farm work and proves the skeptics wrong for months. Lucy’s working fulltime at Walmart and waitressing a few nights a week at a bar, her belly growing bigger by the day. He can make sacrifices, too.
Jeptha tells no one about the yearning that’s gradually swelling within him. At first it was only a passing thought, then a yearning, then something more.
“Every part of him — his hands, his lips, his stomach, his mind — craved a beer, but it had been five months, the longest he’d ever gone, and he pushed the thought away. Lucy liked him sober and working, and he loved Lucy. So, sober and working he’d be, even if it was a struggle every single minute.”
The pressures of life work against Jeptha. Bills mount up. Lucy is exhausted. He lands a job for the winter, but his resolve is like a thin thread, frayed and weakening.
Tragedy breaks the final shred. A car hits the hound that’s been by his side for years. Tearful and alone, Jeptha puts a bullet through the dog’s head to end its pain — and makes a beeline to the Minute Mart beer cooler.
Thus begins his downward spiral of broken promises, bad decisions and lost opportunity. Lucy forgives at first and then merely tolerates Jeptha as her due date nears. The baby comes when Jeptha is nowhere to be found — at a bar, his cell phone dead.
Their life falls into a sad rhythm of Lucy’s work, Jeptha’s drinking and, despite it all, baby Jared’s happy growth. The love that had bonded Lucy and Jeptha in the months of her pregnancy has worn out. All they have is their shared love of Jared.
Throughout Jeptha’s life, people have told him he’s stupid and worthless, even his brother and sister. The put-downs echo in his mind and become self-fulfilling prophecies.
Jeptha knows only one way to cope, numbing himself with alcohol.
Even drunk, though, he comes to the realization that his siblings have been cheating him on the farm’s income, and the anger that erupts brings the plot to a devastating climax.
The story feels unique to Lucy and Jeptha, but its themes resonate through hills and valleys of Appalachia — poverty, limited options, addiction and hopelessness. Country music is woven in, speaking to the characters’ hearts and even inspiring the name of Jeptha’s dog, Crystal Gayle.
Shelburne neither demonizes nor totally excuses Jeptha for his alcoholism. She lays it out as an immutable force that’s stronger than Lucy’s desire for family or Jeptha’s love for Lucy. It’s a sad but believable story, one that will stick with readers for a long time.
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The main character's exposition, a voiceover over the image of the ship and the sun: "Our sun is dying. Mankind faces extinction. Seven years ago, the Icarus project sent a mission to restart the sun... but that mission was lost before it reached the star. Sixteen months ago, I - Robert Capa - and a crew of seven left earth frozen in a solar winter. Our payload: a stellar bomb with a mass equivalent to Manhattan Island. Our purpose: to create a star within a star. Eight astronauts strapped to the back of a bomb. My bomb. Welcome to the Icarus Two."
I cannot really tell you anything more about the plot without spoiling it for you. But - dude.
This movie is like reading a Peter Watts novel.
Things go Wrong. Characters have to make insanely difficult decisions, with no room for error. "This is not a democracy. We are astronauts and scientists. We'll analyze and make the right choice." And they do, again and again, as the choices get harder and harder, as they get closer and closer to the sun...
This movie is tight. It's extremely well-written, all of the actors are perfect in their roles - even the science is good. Please go see this movie so Hollywood will make more like it!
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* Electronic spin the bottle? Did the world really demand this?
* "Custom-built sensors hidden inside coconuts are hung from trees at several public locations to monitor noise produced by overflying aircraft. Detection of excessive aircraft noise triggers automated telephone calls to the airport's complaint line on behalf of the city's residents and wildlife. Documentation of noise incidents is archived for later analysis."
* The World Without Us.
Daily Science
It sounds like a simple task: Count the number of photons or particles of light in a light beam without destroying them in the process. But in fact, it took 17 years to accomplish the feat, researchers report this week in Nature.
A team at the École Normale Superiéure in Paris fired specially primed atoms through a pair of the most reflective mirrors ever built [see image], gradually revealing the number of photons bouncing between their reflective surfaces. Their method provides a high-resolution glimpse of the eerie "collapse" of a quantum system and may be useful in developing future quantum-based technologies.
Daily Scent-stuff
Under the Arbor: This is the scent of Crushed Grape Leaves, Weathered Wood, Green Moss and Cool Earth.
In bottle: Wood and leaves and moss, yes - a shady spot, nestles deep into greenery.
On me: Curled up under sheltering trees with a good book.
In the Library: English Novel taken from a Signed First Edition of one of my very favorite novels, Russian & Moroccan leather bindings, worn cloth and a hint of wood polish
In bottle: Books!
On me: Books! And yes, that hint of polish - just enough to convey that this is a marvelous private library, custom-built shelves and one of those sliding ladders...
Russian Caravan Tea: Smoked black Indian tea, bergamot and the hint of shelves full of old books
In bottle: Ach. Unfortunately, that bergamot note is *really* strong.
On me: And it's strong on me, too. This is a lovely tea scent, but not on my skin.
In the Summer Kitchen: Fresh garden vegetables & herbs on a clear summer evening with a touch of smoked old wooden rafters
In bottle: Wow! Yes. Smoke from a wood-burning stove, and herbs in a window garden.
On me: Gorgeous. I could sit in this kitchen forever.
* Yoga
* Tidying up the house
* Meeting mllelaurel for lunch, and dragging her back here to see my etchings smell my BPAL
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Happy birthday to corrguineacht!
Legs and feet are pretty bad, but that's to be expected with all the walking around I did yesterday. feste_sylvain found interesting areas of my back, neck, and shoulders: "Well, that's not supposed to be there." I have a massage appointment. Tuesday.
* Finishing the perfect-day-in-Woods-Hole thing, if I've time and my wrists are no longer screaming at me.
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senrbayer@senate.michigan.gov
Rosemary Bayer
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Bayer pushes for transparency in driver catastrophic claims
Legislation would shine a light on Michigan Catastrophic Claims Association assessments
LANSING — Sen. Rosemary Bayer (D–Beverly Hills) today issued a statement on the introduction of two bills that would bring greater transparency to assessments made by the Michigan Catastrophic Claims Association (MCCA).
Senate Bills 301 and 302 come on the heels of Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s call for an audit of the MCCA, following their decision to increase fees on drivers, and amid a controversial change to auto no-fault insurance this week that delivered no rate reduction or protection to consumers.
“We need real solutions to protect drivers and provide relief that reduces consumer costs to be on the road,” Sen. Bayer said. “The changes we saw to Michigan’s auto no-fault insurance system this week fail to ensure savings for the average people and families of our state. My bills will deliver a catastrophic claims fee process that is fair, transparent and accountable to the people we should put first: The residents of our districts who hired us to be their voices.”
The legislative package would make the MCCA subject to the Open Meetings and Freedom of Information Acts. It also would give the director of the Michigan Department of Insurance and Financial Services (DIFS) the power to reject changes to the annual MCCA assessment, and it would require that a member of the general public sit on the board. Additionally, the bills establish an annual audit of the MCCA by an independent certified public accountant chosen by the DIFS director.
SB 301 and 302 have been referred to the Senate Insurance and Banking Committee.
Water and Environment Town Hall (Feat. Sen. Rosemary Bayer) Legislators Announce Bills to Expand Universal Background Checks Community Office Hours
Get updates from Rosemary
Privacy Policy 517-373-2417 senrbayer@senate.michigan.gov
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The terrorists might not win, but we’ve still lost.
January 10th, 2010 by scaredpoet
It’s over folks. ?The age of civilian air travel is coming to an abrupt end. ?It’s time to mothball our jets, shut the airlines, and go back to trains and ocean liners as our primary means of long distance travel. ?The United States as a country simply cannot fly anymore.
Why? Because of terrorism you ask? ?No, not because of terrorism. ?It’s because we’ve become a nation of panicky pussies. ?That’s why.
To be sure, on Christmas day 2009, a terrorist?did try – we think – to blow up a plane. ?Hiding a syringe with chemicals and incendiary devices in his underwear, he ignited his payload as the flight he was one prepared to land in Detroit. ?The only immediate casualties, fortunately, were his crotch and – we hope – his ability to procreate. In this case, Darwin may have?prevailed.
Shortly thereafter though, I realized that one other casualty resulted from this incident: our common sense. ?It started right away with Republicans and politicians in Washington. ?Rather than actually caring about the safety of the public and working towards learning from this experience to see how we can adapt reasonably and safely to this threat, if it IS a threat, they chose to pounce on this as a media stunt and politcal scare tactic. ?That’s right, because some silly Nigerian chose to roast his crotch on a flight, to them this clearly meant that Obama failed us.
So, while Washington was busy wrestling with that idea and preferring to focus on the potential political fallout of whether “the system” was working or not, the people who are allegedly tasked with protecting the public good and safety basically stopped focusing on protecting the public’s good and safety. ?Inevitably, this means “the system” that everyone was so busy arguing about has pretty much begun to break down all on its own anyway. That left the general public with the impression that they must now pretty much fend for themselves on the matter.
The result? ?Now we must get molested before we board an airplane, even though it probably won’t help the situation anyway. ?We now also have to deal with air travel being more erratic and unpredictable than before, ranging from the cut off of internet access and other in-flight amenities, to denying passengers the use of bathroom facilities. ?Because we all know that terrorists won’t possibly consider blowing up the plane if they will be denied those last couple minutes of facebook-time, or are unable to take a leak before the big moment, right?
Of course, none of these measures really add to the security of the flights. ?The hope, everyone agrees, is that maybe it’ll just help people feel a little safer, even though we’ve already told them, through the powers of twitter, cable TV news and the iReport, that these measures are fruitless and ineffective.
So, what happens when you tell a sick patient that the medicine you’re giving them is a placebo? ?Simple. ?They go apeshit crazy and panic.
And, boy, have we panicked! ?In the past three days, jet fighters have been scrambled to escort two ?flights because passengers on these planes were perceived to be unruly and possibly threatening. ?And not threatening in the they-just-told-people-we’re-going-to-blow-up-the-plane kinda sense, either. ?We’re talking threatening in the OMG-that-guy-beamed-remotely-negative-thoughts-at-me-and-OMG-I-think-he’s-crazy! kinda way.
Take, for instance, the case of poor Joseph Hedlund Johnson. ?Yeah, his mugshot makes him look a little creepy, but the guy is clearly no Al-Qaeda-affiliated terrorist. ?He just got a little cranky because he was told he couldn’t put his carryon bag under his seat… the same bag they probably would’ve charged him $20 for the mere privilege of checking into the cargo hold of the plane. ?Naturally, he wasn’t happy about this and decided to tell the airline of his annoyance in a comment card he filled out and handed to a flight attendant.
The flight attendant, being a nosy little snot, opened the card and read the following:
“I thought I was going to die, we were so high up,” the card said. “I thought to myself: I hope we don’t crash and burn or worse yet landing in the ocean, living through it, only to be eaten by sharks, or worse yet, end up on some place like Gilligan’s Island, stranded, or worse yet, be eaten by a tribe of headhunters, speaking of headhunters, why do they just eat outsiders, and not the family members? Strange … and what if the plane ripped apart in mid-flight and we plumited (sic) to earth, landed on Gilligan’s Island and then lived through it, and the only woman there was Mrs. Thurston Howell III? No Mary Anne (my favorite) no Ginger, just Lovey! If it were just her, I think I’d opt for the sharks, maybe the headhunters.”
I don’t know about you, but I read this card and think to myself “wow, this guy is a jerk with a really, really bad sense of humor.” But the nosy little flight attendant though differently. ?Instead, the thought that crossed HER mind, it would seem, was “OMG THIS GUY IS GOING TO BLOW UP THE PLANE JESUS CHRIST IN HEAVEN SAVE US OMG OMG OMG!!”
That kinda conclusion was a bit of a stretch if you ask me. ?But apparently, the head flight attendant and even the pilot of the damn plane agreed that it was time to scramble the jets!
So now, everyone on the flight has to bear the inconvenience of fighter jets scrambling, the plane turning back to its starting point, and everyone being molested and cavity searched while the poor creepy jerk faces felony charges.
Moral of the story: if you don’t like the airline’s service, don’t you dare complain about it. Because if you do, you might be branded a terrorist.
And if you think this was one single, isolated incident, they did it all again just two days later with a totally different guy.
(CNN)—In the second such incident in three days, fighter jets escorted a diverted commercial flight on Friday after an unruly passenger caused alarm onboard.
The military sent up two F-16s in response to reports of an unruly passenger aboard AirTran Flight 39, the North American Aerospace Defense Command said in a statement.
The passenger had become belligerent and refused to leave the restroom, airline spokesman Tad Hutcheson told CNN on Friday. The passenger appeared to be intoxicated, he said.
This just goes to show you: we don’t need actual religion-crazed hijacking, bomb-wiedling jihadists to disrupt our way of life and cause irrational mass panic, endangering the lives and safety of the public and costing taxpayers millions in spurious costs in the sake of “safety.” ?We can do it all buy ourselves, thank you very much!
CrazedPenguin writes:
Worse yet, actually:
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/20100121_Daniel_Rubin__It_was_no_joke_at_security_gate.html
This is why teleporters need to become a practical means of transportation, methinks.
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Isolation and Characterization of a Genetic Locus That Confers Tolerance to Cadmium and Zinc in Pseudomonas Fluorescens
Szi Fei Feng, Western Michigan University
Dr. Silvia Rossbach
Dr. Susan Stapleton
Dr. Bruce Bejcek
This thesis describes the isolation and characterization of a region containing several genes involved in metal tolerance in the common soil bacterium, Pseudomonas fluorescens ATCC 13525. The DNA region was identified in a cadmium and zinc sensitive mutant, 45-B10, which contains a lacZ-based reporter gene transposon Tn5-B20 inserted in the chromosome. The DNA surrounding the transposon was cloned from this mutant strain and DNA sequencing of this region revealed seven genes that share similarity with genes whose products are involved in the cation-proton antiporter efflux system of other Gram-negative bacteria. Complete DNA sequence was obtained from four of these genes, czyO, czyR, czyS and czyA. Defined mutations in each of these genes were generated in the chromosome of P. fluorescens via gene replacements. The gene replacement mutants were found to be more sensitive to cadmium or zinc compared to wild type. The comparison of DNA similarity and the phenotypic analysis of the mutants suggest that these genes play a role in metal homeostasis in P. fluorescens.
Feng, Szi Fei, "Isolation and Characterization of a Genetic Locus That Confers Tolerance to Cadmium and Zinc in Pseudomonas Fluorescens" (2000). Master's Theses. 5053.
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Wikisimpsons:Previously featured quotes
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All previously featured quotes as well as the current featured quote.
1 July 5, 2010 - August 1, 2010
2 August 1, 2010 - September 1, 2010
3 September 1, 2010 - October 1, 2010
4 October 1, 2010 - November 2, 2010
5 November 2, 2010 - December 1, 2010
6 December 1, 2010 - January 1, 2011
7 January 1, 2011 - February 1, 2011
8 February 1, 2011 - March 1, 2011
9 March 1, 2011 - June 6, 2011
10 June 6, 2011 - July 1, 2011
11 July 1, 2011 - August 1, 2011
12 August 1, 2011 - September 1, 2011
13 September 1, 2011 - October 1, 2011
14 October 1, 2011 - November 1, 2011
15 November 1, 2011 - December 1, 2011
16 December 1, 2011 - January 1, 2012
17 January 1, 2012 - February 2, 2012
18 February 2, 2012 - March 1, 2012
19 March 1, 2011 - April 1, 2012
20 April 1, 2012
21 April 2, 2012 - May 1, 2012
22 May 1, 2012 - June 1, 2012
44 March 1, 2014 - May 1, 2014
45 May 1, 2014 - July 1, 2014
46 July 1, 2014 - September 1, 2014
100 February 3, 2019 - March 4, 2019
101 March 4, 2019 - May 1, 2019
102 May 1, 2019 - June 1, 2019
103 June 1, 2019 - July 1, 2019
104 July 1, 2019 - August 2, 2019
105 August 2, 2019 - September 1, 2019
106 September 1, 2019 - October 1, 2019
107 October 1, 2019 - November 2, 2019
108 November 2, 2019 - December 1, 2019
109 December 1, 2019 - January 2, 2020
110 January 2, 2020 -
July 5, 2010 - August 1, 2010[edit]
"Spider-Pig, Spider-Pig,
Does whatever a Spider-Pig does.
Can he swing from a web?
No, he can't, he's a pig,
Look out, he is a Spider-Pig!"
―Homer Simpson[src]
August 1, 2010 - September 1, 2010[edit]
"Me fail English? That’s unpossible."
―Ralph Wiggum[src]
September 1, 2010 - October 1, 2010[edit]
Ralph is using a urinal in the gas station
"Yo, I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want, So tell me what you want, what you really really want, I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want, So tell me what you want, what you really really want."
―Ralph Wiggum
"Ralph, are you almost finished?"
―Seymour Skinner
"I finished before we came in."
October 1, 2010 - November 2, 2010[edit]
"They have the Internet on computers, now?"
November 2, 2010 - December 1, 2010[edit]
"Ladies and gentlemen, uh, we've just lost the picture, but what we've seen speaks for itself. The Corvair spacecraft has apparently been taken over, 'conquered' if you will, by a master race of giant space ants. It's difficult to tell from this vantage point whether they will consume the captive Earthmen or merely enslave them. One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the ants will soon be here. And I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords. I'd like to remind them as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves."
―Kent Brockman[src]
December 1, 2010 - January 1, 2011[edit]
"Shoplifting is a victimless crime, like punching someone in the dark"
―Nelson Muntz[src]
January 1, 2011 - February 1, 2011[edit]
"Young man, since you broke Grandpa's teeth, he gets to break yours."
―Homer to Bart[src]
February 1, 2011 - March 1, 2011[edit]
"English instructions ruined! Must read French instructions...."La grille"? What the hell is that?!"
March 1, 2011 - June 6, 2011[edit]
"Seymour, you're fired."
―Superintendent Chalmers
"Did you just call me a liar?"
―Principal Skinner
"No, I said you were fired."
"Oh. That's much worse."
―Principal Skinner[src]
June 6, 2011 - July 1, 2011[edit]
"This is Arnie Pye with Arnie in the Sky. We've got big problems on the Springfield Memorial Bridge, people. Traffic going waaaay back in both directions. And look out at the corner of 14th and Elm, because I just dropped my bagel."
―Arnie Pye[src]
"I've got three kids and no money. Why can't I have no kids and three money?"
"So Mr. Burns doesn't take you seriously, big whoop, who gives a doodle, whoopy ding dong doo!"
―Marge Simpson
"Thanks for trying, but I'll be at Moe's."
―Homer Simpson
"So my husband goes to a bar every night, whoopdy doo, who gives a bibble, gabba gabba hey!"
―Marge Simpson[src]
"Dad, you killed the zombie Flanders!"
―Bart Simpson
"He was a zombie?"
"A thousand eyes... what could that be?"
"Hmmn, I'm pretty sure a thousand is a number."
―Grampa Simpson[src]
"To start, press any key. Well where's the "any" key?"
"The sun?! That's the hottest place on Earth!"
"What a day, eh Milhouse? The sun is out, birds are singing, bees are trying to have sex with them―as is my understanding..."
―Bart Simpson[src]
"Martin Luther King had a dream. Dreams are where Elmo and Toy Story had a party, and I went there. Yay! My turn is over!"
March 1, 2011 - April 1, 2012[edit]
"Hello? Operator! Give me the number for 9-1-1!"
April 1, 2012[edit]
"You'd better watch who you're calling a child, Lois. Because if I'm a child, you know what that makes you? A pedophile. And I'll be damned if I'm gonna be lectured by a pervert."
―Peter Griffin[src]
Note: April Fools' Day prank.
April 2, 2012 - May 1, 2012[edit]
"Hmm. Whoever did this is in very deep trouble!"
"And a sloppy speller, too. The preferred spelling of wiener is W-I-E-N-E-R, although E-I is an acceptable ethnic variant."
―Martin Prince, Jr.
"Good point."
May 1, 2012 - June 1, 2012[edit]
"Kids, you tried your best, and you failed miserably! The lesson is: Never try."
"I'm afraid we have a bad image, sir, market research shows people see you as something of an ogre."
―Waylon Smithers, Jr.
"I ought to club them and eat their bones!"
―Mr. Burns[src]
"Crap, we live in Oregon? I mean, Go Ducks!"
"Lisa, if you don't like your job, you don't strike. You just go in everyday and do it really half-assed. That's the American way."
"Face it, we're just kids. We can't afford stuff with zeros in the prices."
―Lisa Simpson[src]
"The metric system is the tool of the devil! My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it!"
―Abraham Simpson[src]
"Lisa likes Nelson!"
―Class
"She does not!"
―Milhouse
"Milhouse likes Lisa!"
"He does not!"
―Janey Powell
"Janey likes Milhouse!"
―Üter Zörker
"Uter likes Milhouse!"
"Nobody likes Milhouse! Lisa, you've got detention!"
―Dewey Largo[src]
"Mayor Quimby supports revolving door prisons. Mayor Quimby even released Sideshow Bob, a man twice convicted of attempted murder. Can you trust a man like Mayor Quimby? Vote Sideshow Bob for Mayor."
―Advertisement[src]
"Wait a minute ... there's something bothering me about this place. I know! This lesbian bar doesn't have a fire exit. Enjoy your deathtrap, ladies!"
―Homer[src]
"Hehe, poor Bart. You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But, there's nothing funny about... vapor lock. It's the third most common cause of stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked. I'm Joe Namath. Good night."
―Joe Namath[src]
"It took the children forty minutes to locate Canada on the map."
―Marge
"Marge, anyone can miss Canada: all tucked away down there."
"President Bush is driving on our lawn! He must be lost."
"When I grow up, I'm going to go to Bovine University!"
"It won't last. Brothers and sisters are natural enemies! Like Englishmen and Scots! Or Welshmen and Scots! Or Japanese and Scots! Or Scots and other Scots! Damn Scots! They ruined Scotland!"
―Groundskeeper Willie
"You Scots sure are a contentious people."
"You just made an enemy for life!"
―Groundskeeper Willie[src]
"Lisa, vampires are make-believe, just like elves, gremlins, and Eskimos."
"Gotta tweet fast, Marge is making my favorite thing for dinner – food!"
"The only thing bigger than you is you tomorrow."
―Bart Simpson to Homer[src]
"Well, he's kind of had it in for me ever since I accidentally ran over his dog. Actually, replace 'accidentally' with 'repeatedly' and replace 'dog' with 'son'."
―Lionel Hutz[src]
"We can't bust heads like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to tell 'em stories that don't go anywhere - like the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Give me five bees for a quarter", you'd say.
Now where were we? Oh yeah: the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...''"
"This could be the miracle that saves the Simpsons' Christmas. If TV has taught me anything, it's that miracles always happen to poor kids at Christmas. It happened to Tiny Tim, it happened to Charlie Brown, it happened to the Smurfs, and it's going to happen to us!"
"All my daughter ever did was tell people to think for themselves. I may be her father, but when I grow up, I wanna be just like her, except still a dude."
"Bart's been raptured! And his crap's been craptured!"
March 1, 2014 - May 1, 2014[edit]
"Oh, don't worry children. Most of you will never fall in love, but will marry out of fear of dying alone."
―Edna Krabappel[src]
May 1, 2014 - July 1, 2014[edit]
"Bart Simpson, will you put your hand down? You haven't had a single right answer all day."
July 1, 2014 - September 1, 2014[edit]
"Daddy, can I have this one?"
―Rod Flanders
"Hmm. "Get bent"? Well, the only thing that can mean is kneel down and pray!
I'll take the whole box. Get bent, everyone!"
―Ned Flanders[src]
"Got your nose! Heh heh heh."
―Homer
"Got your wallet! [flushes it down toilet]"
―Baby Bart[src]
"Bart! You cast the wrong spell! Zombies!"
―Lisa Simpson
"Please, Lis. They prefer to be called the living impaired."
"Our daughter says she's run off with your son!"
―Darcy's parents to Homer and Marge
"Did she mention she was knocked up?"
―Darcy's father
"Whoops, sorry for the spoiler."
"Son, one day you're going to be a great father."
"Aww. And some day, you'll be one too."
―Bart[src]
"Hah! Attempted murder? Now honestly, what is that? Do they give a Nobel prize for attempted chemistry?"
―Sideshow Bob[src]
"The Simpsons have never married or even shook hands with anyone interesting. In a world of 31 flavors, we’re the cup of water they rinse the scoops in. Grampa out."
"Look at all these knobs and buttons... it clearly means they're a superior race."
"I'm in no condition to drive. Wait, I shouldn't listen to myself. I'm drunk!"
"Well I guess we've learned that of all the countless planets in the universe, we have evolved into the most inedible species. Like three bean salad at a barbecue, we will remain untouched."
"Lisa, when you've sustained as many blows to the head as I have, consistency becomes a.. something... something.. I love you Bart!"
"Son, if you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers."
"We've been through more hardships than the Jews and Charlie Brown put together!"
"Here are your final report cards. I have nothing left to say to any of you, so if nobody minds, let's just quietly run out the clock."
―Miss Hoover[src]
"Whatever happened to "please" and "thank you"?"
"I think they killed each other. You know, one of those murder-suicide deals."
"Hey, since when is Christmas just about the presents? Aren't we forgetting the true meaning of this day? The birth of Santa."
"Managers manage, and players play."
"Do alligators alligate?"
"The only monster here is the gambling monster that has enslaved your mother, and I call him Gamblor!"
"Hey, kids, it's story time! I'm gonna tell you the story of Krusty's expensive new suit: His sexual-harassment suit."
―Krusty[src]
"If I were you I wouldn't take it to the past. I lived in part of that past, and I got out for a reason."
"I've outlasted Letterman, Jon Stewart and 'McDreamy,' because I have something they don't: a costly 200-donut-a-day addiction."
"Marge, as a trained marriage counselor, this is the first instance where I've ever told one partner that they were 100% right. It's all his fault. I'm willing to put that on a certificate you can frame."
―Reverend Lovejoy[src]
"You know, Moe, my Mom once said something that really stuck with me. She said, "Homer, you're a big disappointment," and, God bless her soul, she was really onto something."
"School failed me? Does school have to go to summer Jimbo?"
―Jimbo Jones[src]
"All my life I've been an obese man trapped inside a fat man's body."
"Ah, Halloween. The one time of year when the squalor of our home works to our advantage."
"He who 'haw haws' last, 'haw haws' best."
"We can't afford Christmas. And when you can't afford Christmas, you've failed as a family. That's what all the big stores say."
"Sour juice came out of my front tail."
"You have beautiful eyes."
―Edmund
"They're just dots in circles."
―Lisa[src]
"How did someone so sensitive end up here?"
"Well, if you really got to know, I shot a guy named Apu."
―Jack Crowley
"Oh... well, you know, lots of people shoot Apu. It's just a $100 fine now."
―Marge[src]
"You know, dinner shouldn't be eaten in silence. It should be a time for communication."
"That's a good idea dear. Bart turn on the TV."
"To protect Mother Earth, each copy contains a certain percentage of recycled paper."
―Springfield Shopper Tour Guide
"And what per cent is that?"
―Lisa
"Zero. Zero's a per cent."
―Tour Guide[src]
"The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in the mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function."
"I'm a rage-aholic. I just can't live without rage-ahol!"
"Mom, I'm gonna give you life the way I imagine you gave me life: by pressing alt-F5 repeatedly."
―Shadow Knight[src]
"A man who envies our family is a man who needs help."
"I feel so guilty! I've mangled and maimed 37 people and I told a telemarketer I was busy when I wasn't! I'm not a good man."
―Golem
"He sure is neurotic for a monster."
"Attention, students, this is Principal Skinner, your principal, with a message from the principal's office. Report immediately for an assembly in the Butthead Memorial Auditorium. Damn it, I wish we hadn't let the students name that one."
―Skinner[src]
"All aboard the Polar Express! Direct service to the North Pole, with stops at Candy Cane Corners, Sugarplum Square, Jack Frost Junction, Fa La La La Lane, Nutcracker Street, and Hanukah Heights."
―Otto (as Polar Express conductor)
"Some "express.""
"Take him away, boys."
―Bart
"Hey, I'm the chief here! Bake him away, toys."
―Chief Wiggum[src]
"We started out like Romeo and Juliet, but it ended up in tragedy."
―Milhouse[src]
"Ladies and gentlemen, what you're seeing is a total disregard for the things St. Patrick's Day stands for. All this drinking, violence, destruction of property -- are these the things we think of when we think of the Irish?"
"My mom says I'm cool!"
―Milhouse Van Houten[src]
"I just have to accept that you're never going to change."
―Marge (to Homer)
"No, I changed before! I lost my hair and got fat!"
"Back you robots! Nobody ruins my family vacation but me. And maybe the boy."
"You've got to listen to me. Elementary chaos theory tells us that all robots will eventually turn against their masters and run amok in an orgy of blood and kicking and the biting with the metal teeth and the hurting and shoving."
―Prof. Frink[src]
"Attention, passengers. Please prepare for our landing in Tanzania. [gets a note] I'm sorry, it is now called New Zanzibar. [Gets Another Note] Excuse me. It is now called Pepsi Presents New Zanzibar."
―African Flight Attendant[src]~
"Um, if anybody finds a grenade without a pin, that's mine."
―Iggy Wiggum[src]
"Oh my God, space aliens! Don't eat me, I have a wife and kids! Eat them!"
"Sweetie, sometimes a daddy and a mommy decide to live apart. It's not your fault, it's just that you came out the wrong sex and ruined everything."
―Margarine of Aragon
"So grow a penis or get lost."
―Henry VIII[src]
"Boys, I'm a deadbeat Dad, I live in a school, it's Christmas... the only thing worth anything in my life is you."
"Oh Dad!"
―Skippy Simpson
"You've taught us the meaning of Christmas, which schools are forbidden to tell us any more."
―Jiff Simpson[src]
"Sir, we've been here six times this month."
―Fireman
"Yeah, but uh-- One of those I dialed 9-1-1 by mistake, but I was too embarrassed to admit it, so I set the house on fire. It feels good to tell the truth. No, I'm lying again, it feels bad."
"Oh, Homer! You're as smart as you are handsome!"
―Lurleen Lumpkin
"Hey! [relaxes] Oh, you meant that as a compliment."
"I'll have to read Marge's book. And I swore never to read again after "To Kill A Mockingbird" gave me no useful advice on killing mockingbirds. It did teach me not to judge a man based on the color of his skin, but what good does that do me?"
"All right, brain, you don't like me and I don't like you. But let's just do this and I can get back to killing you with beer."
"I'm so embarrassed. I wish there was a hole I could just crawl into and die."
"Okay, throw her in the hole."
―Guard
"Oh, please. It was just a figure of speech."
"Okay, Homer, you watch the screen while I take a quick A.P."
―The Detonator
"What's an A.P.?"
"It's a gamer abbreviation for "a pee.""
"Nerd lingo. Saves so much time."
"You need to read between the lines."
"Why? There's just white space there."
"My hair! You chopped off my hair! Oh God I'm ugly!"
"Quick! We have to kill the boy!"
―Grampa
"How'd you know he's a vampire?"
"He's a vampire?! Aaaahhhh!"
―Grampa[src]
"Hey, I thought you said Troy McClure was dead."
―Louie
"No. What I said was he sleeps with the fishes. You see..."
―Fat Tony
"Fat Tony, please, no! I just ate a huge plate of dingamagoo."
―Louie[src]
"Hoy, hoy, hoy. I ride on a pig. Don't forget to leave me porridge!"
―Norwegian Santa
"Ugh, I've got it set on Norwegian."
January 2, 2020 -[edit]
"Full speed ahead! Damn the torpedoes!"
"What did he say? Put on our tuxedoes?"
"I want some taquitos."
―Old Jewish man[src]
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Featured Artist: Estée Preda
by Ben Nussbaum – October 24, 2019
Matt Charland
S&H editor Ben Nussbaum talked with this issue’s featured artist, Estée Preda, about winters in Québec, her past life filming snowboarding movies, and much more.
S&H: What does your work mean to you? Estée: My work is very much rooted in escapism. The meaning evolves as my practice evolves. What I’m trying to do is create a full and encompassing universe. A little bit like Tolkien’s universe, a full world. When I started painting, I didn’t really have an idea of what I wanted to do. My work really doesn’t mean anything specific. Whatever people want to see in it, whatever makes them feel. I like to try to create complex emotions through the interactions between the creatures. It can’t be too light or too dark. It’s kind of a reflection of our world through a surreal lens. S&H: Is each piece a self-enclosed universe or do they all interconnect? Estée: They’re all connected, for sure. They’re all part of the world. Some characters stay and some are gone; I’m not really sure why. S&H: What do you do outside of art? I know you’re in a band (whose music I really like). Estée: Yeah, I’m in a band, but that’s literally the other thing I do. I just make art and play in a band, nothing else. That’s all I do. I live in the woods 45 minutes outside Québec …
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Sharks icons Patrick Marleau, Joe Thornton working out in San Jose
Joe Thornton and Patrick Marleau might not be on NHL rosters at the moment, but both are staying active.
Former Sharks defenseman Christian Ehrhoff posted a photo with the duo from a locker room at San Jose's practice facility Monday.
Visited my old workplace in San Jose today and ran into a couple of old pals! 🦈 #PatrickMarleau #JoeThornton @sanjosesharks #sharksice #westcoastroadtrip #CE10
A post shared by Christian Ehrhoff (@cehrhoff) on Aug 12, 2019 at 11:36pm PDT
Ehrhoff, 37, is younger than Marleau, 39, and Thornton, 40, but the German blue liner is retired and his old teammates seem to be gearing up for another season. Marleau and Thornton currently are unrestricted free agents, and both have said they intend to play in 2019-20.
The Toronto Maple Leafs traded Marleau to the Carolina Hurricanes in a salary dump earlier this offseason, and the Hurricanes bought out Marleau's contract after he informed the team he wanted to play closer to his family after they moved back to San Jose. He told The Athletic's Pierre LeBrun that a reunion with the Sharks "would be a good fit for me for sure."
Thornton, meanwhile, told reporters at June's NHL Awards he wanted to return for (at least) one more season. Sharks general manager Doug Wilson said earlier this offseason he would give Thornton "all the time he needs to make whatever decision's right for him," and his photo with Ehrhoff adds credence to the idea it's a matter of when -- not if -- he re-signs with San Jose.
[RELATED: Why Sharks should, shouldn't retire Nolan's jersey first]
The Sharks have just under $4.7 million in salary-cap space with 11 forwards under contract, according to Cap Friendly. Both players made more than that last season, but Thornton made $3 million less than he did in 2017-18 and Marleau is owed just under $3 million from the Hurricanes after his buyout. Thus, it's conceivable San Jose has enough room to re-sign Thornton and bring back Marleau.
For now, with just over a month before the Sharks' preseason opener on Sept. 17, the waiting game continues. But Ehrhoff's Instagram post is just another indication the two longest-tenured players in San Jose history intend to play next season.
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Kelly Soo Park Fraud Case, Pretrial 4; Judge Admits to Releasing Grand Jury Transcripts to Two LA Times Journalists
The previous post on this case can be found HERE.
UPDATE 7/13/16: Corrected DDA Ma's first name to Keenes
UPDATE 10/18: edited for spelling, clarity, accuracy
I'm on the 9th floor of the downtown Criminal Justice Center. There are not as many people here like there were on September 25.
Kelly Soo Park's husband and sister Kim are here, along with friend Deborah van Cleeve.
Defendant Paul Turley's attorney Benjamin Gluck is here along with Reuven Cohen, one of the attorneys representing Marisa Schermbeck-Nelson.
I also see journalist Pat LaLama's husband, attorney Tony Brooklier has arrived. He's representing defendant Leticia Lemus, who is #7 on the larger indictment. I've always liked Tony. He's tall and distinguished looking and has always been kind to me.
At this end of the hallway, there are a few people with juror badges sitting on benches.
The attorneys are congregating in several groups. Like I've noticed before, Mr. Gluck appears to be the attorney that other counsel are conferring with the most. It makes sense, once you understand that Mr. Gluck has represented Dr. Uwaydah for many years. Benjamin Gluck is no stranger to representing medical professionals charged with insurance billing fraud. He has two criminal cases in Orange County that are still pending.
While currently representing Paul Turley in this case, back in 2011, Gluck was representing Dr. Uwaydah/Frontline Medical. Frontline had made a $100,000 deposit towards Park's defense on first degree murder charges. Alerted by the prosecution to a potential conflict of interest because of the source of these funds, Park's attorneys withdrew their representation of Park. The question then became, who had authority over the funds that were sitting in Park's former counsel's trust account. I missed that hearing, but Lonce LaMon from adjuster.com reported on what she called the "tug of war" over the $100,000.00.
Not much earlier in time, Mr. Gluck represented Dr. Uwaydah/ Frontline in suing two of his current co-defendants, Peter Nelson and Marisa Schermbeck [later Schermbeck-Nelson]. It was in November 2010, almost three weeks after Park bonded out of jail, and five months after Uwaydah fled the country. Dr. Uwaydah had Gluck file a lawsuit charging the pair with breach of fiduciary duty, constructive fraud, conversion, civil theft, unjust enrichment and unfair business act or practice. You can read the initial filing HERE. The lawsuit was eventually dismissed because Dr. Uwaydah claimed he could not return to the United States to be deposed.
More people arrive on the 9th floor. I thought the LA Times might show up but they haven't arrived yet. There are a couple of ladies walking the hallway back and forth.
The 9th floor is very busy with trials today. Ka Pasasouk, charged with the December 2012, quadruple murder in a Northridge illegal boarding house, his trial recently started jury selection in Dept. 106, Judge Fidler's court. Judge Fidler presided over both Phil Spector trials. In Dept. 107 Judge Lomeli's court, a jury is hearing closing arguments in the trial of Dr. Lisa Tseng, on trial for murder in the deaths of three of her patients. The prosecution alleges Dr. Tseng was a "pill doctor" and her over-prescribing of pain killers caused her patients deaths. Over in Dept. 104 (Judge Perry's court, who presided over the Stephanie Lazarus trial) opening statements are starting in the trial of Scott Kratlian, who is charged with murdering a pen pal.
The introductions and hand shaking continues between various defense counsel.
DDA Dayan Mathai arrives. He heads over to a group of defense attorneys that includes Mr. Gluck. There are introductions and smiles exchanged. Right behind DDA Mathai, journalist Lonce LaMon clears the security station.
Inside Dept. 109
A deputy orders all attorneys to sit in the jury box. He then orders all defendants out of custody to sit in the front row, left side, right next to the bailiff's box. Two very pretty female defendants are there. The much younger woman on the right is Yolanda Groscost. Her hair, makeup and outfit are perfect. Groscost could have just walked off a modeling shoot. The older, professionally polished woman on the left is attorney Tatiana Arnold. The male defendant out on bond, Terry Luke, is not here yet.
A very casually dressed man sitting to my right, leans in to tell me he thinks the two women in the front row have had plastic surgery.
The courtroom is a little over half full. There are five deputies in the room to keep order. Again, the one deputy orders all defense attorneys in the jury box. A few attorneys stop by the regular bailiff's desk. They are trying to see their clients. Judge Kennedy comes out and speaks to her bailiff. She is not in her robe yet. DDA Mathai exits the courtroom to have a conversation with several people in the ante chamber.
The regular bailiff goes out to speak to DDA Mathai in the ante chamber.
Terry Luke arrives and he's ordered to sit in the first row with the other defendants out on bond. A blond female attorney comes over to the bonded defendants and introduces herself as "Nina." I miss her last name. I hear in the well that another attorney will be standing in for Louis Shapiro, Peter Nelson's counsel.
Jane Robison from the DA's office is here.
Benjamin Gluck takes the lead to communicate for the group to the court. Judge Kennedy's clerk tells the parties that the judge is coming out. He adds, "She is going to check in with everyone."
Judge Kennedy takes the bench and goes on the record. "This is the people against [she pauses], everybody." There's a bit of laughter in the courtroom with her description. "We are on calendar for a sort of pretrial today, and I know that um, the defendant from yesterday we do not have."
Ms. Touchhan, who represents David Johnson, tells the court her client is still out on a medical problem.
The court asks the bailiff, "Is everyone else here now?" Her bailiff responds, "We’re still missing Paul Turley." Turley is still in transit from the jail to the court. The court continues, "There are a couple of defendants that have two attorneys. ...it makes things confusing for the court. ..and Amy Jacks, where are you? ... What is your status?" Ms. Jacks, one of the counsel representing Marisa Schermbeck-Nelson, responds. "Our status is that we have not been properly [paid?]."
I believe there is also some discussion involving Mr. Flemming, [co-counsel for Jeff Stevens] and that he has not been retained. Judge Kennedy's clerk reads something to her, then she addresses the group. "I'm not sure what everyone wants to do today. ... Ms. Jacks, you have a motion, a bail motion, and we'll get to that I guess. ... What does everyone else want to do?"
DDA Mathai addresses the court. He states that there is Ms. Jacks bail motion and there are some issues regarding the protective order that will be quick that we can resolve. There are some issues regarding discovery and the matter of picking a new date. The court mentions that there is something that the people filed yesterday, but the court is not aware if the defense attorneys have received it yet. I believe DDA Mathai states they emailed the defense attorneys the motion they filed. The parties are trying to pick dates. The defense needs to tell the court about their readiness.
Benjamin Gluck for defendant Turley addresses the court regarding the readiness. "On that point we have a few housekeeping items to solve. Unfortunately, our best laid plans from last time did not come to fruition. ... We did not get the grand jury instructions or exhibits until last night. ... the point is we set that date [under the belief?] we would have that and [more discovery?]. ... At the same time we've been trying to get some [list of?] items of what discovery is going to look like. ... We've been unable to get some predictions on that from from the DA's office. ... We've gotten some discovery. It appears to be a very narrow slice of the issues. ... We would be happy with an index of what we might.... even a non binding index, so we can sit down with our clients and say what we have to work with, and not come in every week. ... We don't have anything really to set yet. I would propose we could set a date, even without defendant's here."
Judge Kennedy tells the parties, "What I understand, the defendants are 30 of zero today. As long as we don't go beyond the 60, we don't need defendants here to waive time.
Mr. Gluck states, "We could set a date in the near future." The defense requests the court requests the people give some indication of what and when [the next set of discovery] is going to come in and then they could pick a realistic schedule to handle the case. "We just don't have enough information to even guess at it. ... Then we set a date in the near future ... and then tell the court what type of motion we expect to be bringing."
DDA Mathai responds. "I think in the issue of discovery ... I can appreciate the reason that counsel wants some clarity on it. The problem is we've ... It's hard to give that clarity. ... I sent an email last night ... what we've turned over and tried to be as specific as we can without locking ourselves into [anything]. ... We have given counsel, plus grand jury, 15,000 pages. ... We've outlined it for defense counsel. ... I don't know what other type of index [they] want but the categories are ..."
Judge Kennedy clarifies, "You've summarized what's been given ... but I guess what [they] want is an index of what you will give."
DDA Mathai continues. "What we turned over, ... we've turned over on hard drive. Phase two includes audio and video recordings, 188 of them."
DDA Mathai adds that there are specific instructions on getting these all at once to all the defense counsel. Defense counsel has to go all together and make a payment for copies of all those recordings.
"We have outlined that ... in two weeks they will have a majority of the case. ... We've tried to prioritize, and it's so tedious to copy all of it and scan and date stamp it. ... That process is going on behind the scenes every day. ... And as we get it, we've tried to forecast it for the defense. ... We're a month into the arraignment. ... Within six weeks [they] will have a bulk of the discovery. ... All the recordings and DA investigation reports, the California Medical Board reports. ... So I've outlined all that for counsel. ... After phase two there will be additional discovery and we won't know [the exact?] time frame on that. ... [it's] stuff that's been recovered on search warrants that needs to go through discovery."
DDA Mathai tells the court they've tried their best and that they've tried to have some clarity on that [roll out of what's coming] themselves, but that's why they don't have certainty on some of the items. The majority of the discovery, the defense will have within six weeks of arraignment.
Mr. Gluck replies, "That's incredibly helpful information, and that was what Ms. Chon refused to give us and if she would only ... I have to point out that the indictment was filed in February. ... It was filed and on the bail amount that ... so that it is not a surprise that people are in custody. ... So why would it take six months to get discovery to us? The things that Mr. Mathai is saying are very helpful. ... If we can keep them to that it will solve many of the things we are demanding."
Mr. Gluck then addresses the issue with the recordings. "They are demanding $60,000, or $5,000 per defendant in order to make available to us that we are entitled to have under the constitution. ... We think that's excessive and unnecessary. ... We think a copy service to copy transcripts under the law ... that we should have to give $60,000 to the audio lab ... there [must be] a faster and cheaper way to do that."
DDA Mathai responds, "Everything that I have said, is reflected in the email, their cost associated with that is what we've been informed of. ... The sound lab gave us this amount."
This is not something that is arbitrary. This is what the DA's have been told from the sound lab.
Judge Kennedy replies, There may have to be some kind of motion in regard to that. ... It seem unfair, that you have to pay to get discovery on your own case."
There is more discussion about the sound lab's costs. Judge Kennedy adds, "It doesn't seem right. With out looking into it, it doesn't sound right to me."
DDA Chon adds something to the effect of, when counsel is appointed, these are [court?] rules and are discoverable. When they don't have funds, all that is free. DDA Chon explains more to the court but it is totally incomprehensible to me.
Judge Kennedy adds, "You'd want to look into that. It may be a litigation issue at this point, I don't know."
Mr. Gluck adds, "To save time, if we could have a stipulation that they make a collection ... I will copy it. Even I can copy those files on my computer and I can share with them [the rest of defense counsel]." Mr. Gluck adds something about a process from the sound lab might take months. Judge Kennedy states Gluck's suggestion seems reasonable.
The proposition is, the prosecution makes one copy. The defense takes up a collection collectively. As a group, they pay for one copy and all the defendants sign that they are not going to demand a separate copy [from the prosecution], the defense gets some kind of [receipt?]. That seems like a much more expeditious process.
DDA Chon states, they can do that, and that she sent in the email what they have to do.
Mr. Gluck makes it official. They are now agreeing that Mr. Gluck's office will copy one hard drive and one payment and will share with the other defendants that participate. DDA Chon adds, the defendants, they all must agree in open court and it must be on the record.
Judge Kennedy adds, "If any of the individual attorneys wish to pay their own $5,000 and get their own copy, and are free to do so, but they can opt out on the record as the ones remaining can do." DDA Chon replies, "It must be on the record." DDA Mathai tells the court [about the costs], "This is not our idea. This is from the professionals that do that."
Mr. Gluck insists this is not because of the defense. There is more discussion about making this clear as to who is opting into Mr. Gluck's proposal and who would be opting out and who would be chipping into the fund. There is discussion about getting the waivers now instead of coming back. They will have to work fast, because the looming item is the scheduled evacuation drill of the building. Judge Kennedy, on the record calls it, "Because of the shake out. We have a shake down and shake out."
Judge Kennedy tells the group, "We have certain defendants that are here. ... There was something about a protective order?"
DDA Mathai responds to the court's inquiry. Mr. Gluck sent a proposed amendment to the protective order. The only change we are recommending to Mr. Gluck's proposal is that it reflects that all parties are bound by it. The DDA is asking for the protective order. The defense parties are not.
Judge Kennedy Admits to Releasing Grand Jury Transcripts
Mr. Gluck states that he is agreeable to that. He wants to point out that there's been material that's been released publicly. And this is when Judge Kennedy makes an announcement.
Judge Kennedy replies, "I'm going to fess up to an error that I made. I allowed [two] reporters to read some of the grand jury transcripts, not realizing, that ... [not] all of the defense attorneys got their transcripts. ... I assumed that everyone had them until all these issues came up. ... [There is] supposed to be a ten day grace period when defense counsel gets transcripts ... then open to the public. So that's my fault. I own that. I won't make that mistake again. .... That's my error. It's not on the defense."
Mr. Gluck replies, "That was one of the things that I would say. That information did not come from us [defense counsel]. ... [There was] medical information with names redacted on the net and that didn't come from us."
DDA Mathai states they can write up the amendment and submit it to the court. So, the parties are going to amend the protective order. Judge Kennedy replies, "If you can interlineate it in a way that is agreeable to both sides, that's fine with me."
Counsel are trying to figure out how they can do this quickly without having to go back to office to have something typed officially. A suggestion is made to just hand-write it in. I'm not sure who, but someone says, "I have bad handwriting."
DDA Kennes Ma addresses the court. It has something to do with the temporary restraining order. He also brings up the issue that there are people that have claims against [the seized funds?]. Judge Kennedy states there are claims that have been filed already. There are others that are considered verified claimants. Mr. Gluck tells the court that he spoke to Mr. Ma. "The statutes are unclear if the defendants need to put in claims." Judge Kennedy clarifies, "So in the interest, the defendants are going to file claims." DDA Ma asks that the TRO [temporary restraining order] be in effect.
Gluck has one more issue to bring up and that's regarding the grand jury procedure whether the exhibits are maintained and when instructions are shredded, and what policy governs that. Judge Kennedy states she doesn't know if that's a court policy or a DA policy. DDA Mathai adds that there are some things that the DA's don't control in the grand jury. Defense counsel will have to find out from the grand jury from their procedures. Judge Kennedy states that Dept. 100 is the one that would know these things. [Department 100 is the court's master calendar court.] Judge Kennedy tells counsel, "I will ask Judge Brandlin. He would know these things."
Mr. Gluck is asking about the grand jury adviser. The grand jury adviser is a deputy district attorney. Judge Kennedy responds, "Mr. Mathai, you can look into that." The court continues, "Now we need to pick dates. And if we’re going to take waivers we need to rotate attorneys and have five male defendants and the three out of custody. ... Have you all discussed dates?"
Mr. Moss [representing defendant Jeff Stevens] stands. He speaks so softly the court tells him she can't hear him. Mr. Moss asks for next Tuesday for his client. Mathai agrees to next Tuesday.
DDA Mathati wants to add "one small thing." On October 9, people filed an updated temporary restraining order against the bank accounts. They only involve 9 mentioned names. "I have those to be picked up. This order has been published in the Daily Journal and sent out to last known addresses."
Mr. Gluck brings up another issue that I miss. A female attorney, I believe it's the Deputy AG Elyse Davidson, is asking for a notice if bail status changes for this defendant [Paul Turley]. Judge Kennedy states, "Assuming the attorney general is on the mailing list or notice list." Mr. Gluck tells the court, "We can certainly add the attorney general for any mailings." Ms. Davidson tells the court, "Our main concern is the public protection."
Five male defendants are brought out. They are all chained together, in a row. The defendants are sitting at the defense table. Their counsel are standing behind them.
Judge Kennedy tells counsel, "There has to be an explanation to them about this waiver on the discovery or whatever. On the far left is Paul Turley. I recognize Ron Case on the far right.
Mr. Turley is called first. Mr. Gluck for Mr. Turley. Judge Kennedy addresses the parties. "Just so that all defendants understand. We had an informal discussion. The discovery is voluminous. The DA's office states they want $5,000 from each privately represented defendant in order to receive the next state of discovery. ... What has been proposed ... rather than each private represented defendant, paying for their own discovery with the DA's, ... that Mr. Gluck, on behalf of all the defendants is going to pay and hopefully get contribution from co-counsel for one copy of the discovery, and he is there after going to duplicate the discovery at [a cost of] something less than $5,000 per defendant."
I believe it's DDA Chon who speaks next. For the record, what we want to do is to have the individual defendant agree and their attorney agree, one, Mr. Gluck received his copy directly [from the DA's office]. ... That discovery is your discovery as well and you're going to accept that copy that he provided and not come back that you need your own, individual copy from the prosecutor.
I'm not sure if it's the court who continues or if DDA Chon adds the next piece.
Anybody can if they want to, pay the $4,716.04 to get their own copy. But if you go this way, and agree to go through this procedure, then you cannot claim later that somehow, the discovery has been denied to you.
Mr. Turley has no objection. Next is Peter Nelson. Amy Jacks, special appearance for Peter Nelson. Nelson agrees. Jeff Stevens is next. Mr. Richard Moss for Stevens. They are agreeable.
Ron case is next. I miss the name of the female attorney who speaks up. In addition, there is also a public defender who is representing Mr. Case. The public defender will get their own copy of discovery. [That's because, defendants who cannot afford an attorney, and one is provided by the state/county, they do not have to pay the DA's office for the audio/video files.] Judge Kennedy adds, "In the case that there is a private counsel that represents you, that attorney will be responsible for getting a copy of the discovery." Counsel join on Ron Case.
Judge Kennedy asks for the attorney for Mr. Folgar. Mr. Werksman, who supposedly is representing him, is not here. Ms. Jacks speaks up and asks about Mr. Shapiro's client, Peter Nelson. Apparently, Nelson had a bail hearing scheduled of October 23. That's a bad date for the court so it needs to be changed. Ms. Jacks states she will have Mr. Shapiro contact the court.
I'm not sure who it is who steps up for Mr. Werksman and defendant Folgar. They tell the court that there were some issues with the retainer. Judge Kennedy states she was not under that impression. The counsel who is there for Werksman states there is a problem with the representation fee.
The next issue, is to set a date for about a week and a half, so counsel can tell the court the defense plan regarding the 995 filing.
DDA Chon addresses the court about some of the problems with the case.
The next defendants that are addressed are those out on bond. First is Terry Luke. A new defense attorney is here for Luke. It is not Jeff Kent. All I have is "Marina" or Ms. Marina. Luke's new counsel has not received any discovery. She may have received the TRO's and something about the "claims." Judge Kennedy asks the defendant if he's heard about obtaining the discovery. Luke agrees to the suggested method of obtaining the additional discovery.
Mr. Gluck suggest splitting the two indictments onto two different calendar tracks. Judge Kennedy responds, "At this point, I want to keep everyone on this one calendar."
Joel Levy for Ms. Groscost. They will participate in the discovery in the manner discussed today. Ms. Groscost agrees from the gallery. Mr. Levy tells the court his client would like to waive time to a status of November 19. The other people on the smaller indictment, BA435339, were hoping to split out [onto a different calendar track]. Mr. Levy believes that the discovery issues will not be resolved by the Nov. 19 date, so his client would like to waive time.
Next is Tatiana Arnold. Her attorney has an issue. Her attorney is not available, and ask that every hearing be set collectively. Now the calendar date they are looking at is November 2. The court states a better date would be November 3. "Does that work for everyone?," the court asks. Mr. Gluck responds, "Yes, your honor."
Mr. Levy for Ms. Groscost again. "My client is out of custody. She had a long planned trip, was going to take a trip to North Carolina." DDA Mathai speaks to Mr. Levy privately, off the record.
The court asks, "Have we finished with these five in custody defendants?" The court then adds, "Now set for October 20 for opposition on the [186?] for defendant Stevens, and November 3 for everyone else."
Mr. Gluck asks, "Would it be permissible for the people to give us their index, not binding, but in advance of that?" Judge Kennedy states, "If you need my permission for that you have it. ... In the extent you need to work these [things] out among yourself, it's always better."
DDA Chon speaks next, but since she's seated, I can't see her and have difficulty hearing her.
I believe the court states that David Johnson, at this point would be November 3.
DDA Chon adds that regarding [the first set of discovery?] for all defendants, they could submit their hard drives. Judge Kennedy adds, the charges are only for audio and video. [Not the rest of discovery.] DDA Chon states she still needs hard drives from defense attorneys to turn over the rest of discovery. Judge Kennedy asks if everyone understands that. She then asks for the next group of defendants.
Ms. Arnold's attorney tells the court they have another issue in regard with respect to Ms. Arnold. [They] have not been provided the search warrant and the special master and numerous files related to this matter were apparently seized during the search warrants. The matter issued via the indictment.
DDA Mathai states this is the first time Arnold's attorney has brought this matter up to him. He also states that he's informed [counsel as a group, or Ms. Arnold counsel?] that they are hoping that the search warrants that were from the arrest date of Ms. Arnold's arrest will be included in this case in the next two weeks. There is a question about why there is no special master for Ms. Arnold's files. DDA Mathai states he will discuss that with [counsel?] later.
I believe it's Mr. Gluck who tells the court that Ms. Arnold also represented completely unrelated clients to this case, so that is an issue that has been flagged for the DDA. Ms. Arnold had an independent law practice, but what Mr. Gluck can't confirm is there were reams of files of clients in her practice, completely unrelated to this matter. Mr. Gluck is asking that those files be returned as quickly as possible. DDA Mathai will take this matter up with Ms. Garafalo after court today.
Judge Kennedy asks, "You all are going to talk after court, I'm assuming. On November 3, if you haven't resolved [this] you can take it up then."
DDA Kennes Ma has housekeeping issues. People filed a temporary restraining order 186, under seal. It was under [the] indictment. At this time, the people no longer need that seal."
A female defendant in custody is brought out. Maria Turley. Vicki Podberesky for Maria Turley. Maria's waiver for Gulck to get the discovery is obtained. Next hearing date for her is November 3. DDA Chon clarifies for the record, that is for turning over the audio and everything. That's right. The defendant is remanded.
Judge Kennedy asks, "Who is left?" More female defendants. An attorney for Terry Luke raises an issue. Mr. Luke needs to attend a conference. DDA Chon asks that all out of custody defendants not travel out of the jurisdiction of the court without prior approval of the court. Judge Kennedy responds, "Usually, that's a condition of bail. ... I don't know what your [defense] bond company ... may have conditions of bond." DDA Mathai tells the court that this was brought up about leaving the jurisdiction.
Back to Ms. Groscost. Mr. Levy states she is going to North Carolina. She will be there during November 3. He's asking for a 977 waiver. Judge Kennedy states that's fine, just get the waiver prepared and have his client sign it.
Kelly Park is brought out. She quickly looks over to her family in the gallery and smiled. As Mark Kassabian leans in to speak to her, another woman is brought out. The court asks, "Did you discuss discovery with Ms. Park?" "Yes, your honor," Mr. Kassabian replies. Judge Kennedy asks Park if she waives and agrees to receive discovery from Mr. Gluck. Park agrees. Next hearing for Park is November 3.
The other woman who was brought out is Ms. Nelson. Mr. Navarro, public defender and Amy Jacks for Ms. Nelson. There's some discussion about the waiver of discovery if the other counsel comes over. The court tells counsel, "This building is going to be evacuated in [zero?] minutes. ... You can come back this afternoon or come back another day and have a bail motion." Ms. Jacks states she will come back at 1:30 pm. For all intents and purposes, the building is in evacuation mode.
Another defendant is quickly brought out. It's Leticia Lemus. She has dark hair with hints of blond throughout. Tony Brooklier is her counsel. Lemus and Brooklier agree to the new discovery release. And that's it. The bailiff's ask everyone to leave the courtroom.
I decide not to stay in downtown for the afternoon session. The next hearing is November 3.
Next post on this case can be found HERE.
Note: T&T readers should know that I am scheduled for jury duty the week of November 2 at the Van Nuys Courthouse. If I don't get called in on November 3, I'll attend the hearing.
Labels: Anthony Brooklier, Benjamin Gluck, Catherine Chon, Dayan Mathai, Dr Munir Uwaydah, Judge Kennedy, Kelly Soo Park, Kennes Ma
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Mongo Beti’s Narrative in ‘The Poor Christ of Bomba’ Essay
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Postcolonialism is a term that ranges from artistic actions, political theories, cultural theories, and social ideologies which have created a new genre of African writers in the mid to late twentieth century that theorize this term. The fallout, drawbacks, and social emergences that have come out of colonialism appear to have taken the definition of postcolonialism up to a certain point because according to some theorists of postcolonialism, the definition still remains subjective. At this point, what remains is still the level of understanding toward the colonized and remaining questions as to the motives of the colonizers to colonize.
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Postcolonialism relegates the colonizers intent to just personal financial gains over the colonized, whereas the colonized and its following generations still are dealing with the results of such humiliations and dominations impacted by colonialism.
Perhaps to understand some of the effects of postcolonialism a reader should have a textual analysis of colonialism itself. In the book, The Poor Christ of Bomba, the author, Mongo Beti uses narration to tell a story that takes the reader inside the mind of a fourteen year old who finds himself in a situation beyond his control.
The characterization of the narrate personify an age that draws the line between innocence and awareness. The condition as it were in the book takes a satirical approach on how the circumstances under colonialism rule may have been. Betis clever play on words, situations, and storylines open up the mind of the reader to take in some of the implications attribute to colonialism that make the term postcolonialism so arbitrary (Chrisman 8-11).
Postcolonialism is referred to what actually happens after colonialism, its predecessor. The area controlled by is territorial occupier gains its independence and appropriates its own establishment. Politically it may appear that this area is now completely independent; however, the question remains if postcolonialism is completely underway. That issue in trying to define postcolonialism for theorists is answering that particular question. They claim colonialism occupies not just a geographical area but a geographical unconsciousness of the mind of the colonized. Even though the area is now free of its colonizers, is it really free of its conscious self?
When language, culture, religion, and education has been altered to evoke a new one for years upon new generations of people, can those people find their way to their ancestral state? So, if postcolonialism represents a medium of after colonialization, then it must also include the affects of displacement has occurred and perhaps this is why postcolonialism is so inflexible to define to one particular presumption because there are varied implications such as social, economic, political, and religious cultural aspects have to be taken into account before a linear definition is implemented into postcolonialism (305-311).
Post-colonialism also refers to a set of theories in philosophy and literature which tackle with the inherited 19th century British and French colonial rule. As a literary theory, postcolonialism consists with literature created in countries that were once colonies of other countries and in fact, for some, this may still be the case. This faction has produced many theorists that have upstaged the term and its meaning to other nonsingular forms according to Aijaz Ahmad, who by feels a grand perplexity of the definition in literature and feels that the point of what is postcolonialism is being subverted.
He feels that as long as the word does not remain as is and that if independent states the use political strategies of colonizers, there will also be inequalities among people and governments which will be referred to as non-white. This globalization sphere of postcolonialism will historical harness the fundamental effect of constructing this globalized transhistorcity of colonialism is to evacuate the very meaning of the word and dispense that meaning so widely that we can no longer speak if determinate histories of determinate structures such as that of the postcolonial state (31).
Before postcolonialism is understood at some level, colonialism itself has to be defined. Mongo Beti uses his book, The Poor Christ of Bomba, to tell a fictional tale of colonialism. He uses wit, satire, irony, and parodies to bring forth some revelations about this subject matter of colonialism. Beti uses biographical narration. It resembles autobiographical narration which takes the reader through a historical account using a diary-like dialogue of the main protagonists life with other members of society such as the colonizers and the villagers who live alongside of the road of Bomba. Denis is the young boy whose mental imagery where this invasion takes place is ultimately the readers tour guide of what colonialism may have like.
Mongo Beti (1932-2001) was a Cameroon writer who was a theorists, novelist, essayist, and publisher. He is noted for being a prominent African writer who has been known to use satirical approaches to criticize and emphasize the effects of colonialism through his fictional novels. The importance of his characters in his novels, for example, The Poor Christ of Bomba, gives visional insight though the narrative of how the hierarchal order of the colonizer adhered to its position and then how the colonized submission presumably took place. Beti uses satire as a literary device to draw consciousness of a subject whose remnants have tried to define its effects known as postcolonialism.
African Literature revolves around narration whether it is oral or written. Oral literature in Africa is considered enormously colorful, rich, and varied. Oral literature is closely association with rhythmus and music. Audiences are invited to participate; however through narration audience participation is different. Narration is seen as two kinds of art: performance art and informative. It is rich with folktales, myths, legends, and proverbs. Through narration present generations find a connection with ancestral past. Although earliest accounts of Africa literature are religious texts written in indigenous languages, most recently the major theme of African literature is the clash between traditional cultures and modernization which is written in a multitude of languages reflected by cross-cultures and colonization (Abiola 3).
North Africa is dominated by Arabic language and its northern counties are considered Arab countries such as Egypt, Morocco, and Algeria for example. East Africas language is Swahili and dates back to 1652. By the mid-19th century, Latin script became more popular. During the 20th century Africa literatures in European languages resulted because of colonialism. Cameroon literature of the 1990s is considered a reflection of its economic state. What Mongo Beti did by writing a book like The Poor Christ of Bomba, certainly made him ahead of his time. Much the literature is centered on the political status the country is in. Although tradition oral literatures are there for social and religious purposes, written literatures excel in trying to bring political change to the awareness of its people (Krieger 20).
Mongo Betis first hand account of colonialism combined with his traditional milieu with oral literature and creative writing abilities helped him bring a story whose narration posses the elements to place the reader in the middle of situation such as colonialism where for a moment the colonizer and the colonized have nowhere to go but live the life placed on them and leaves the future unanswered for the colonized. It is this wavering end which sets the subjective meaning and tone for the definition of postcolonialism to be so broad and unpredictable. Perhaps one reason why the definition is random is because the effects of colonialism to people are different and cohesive at the same time. As the colonizers in the book bring their culture and religion to villagers in Africa, the people are affected differently and yet very similar at the same time; therefore, postcolonialism more than likely parallels the onset of this circumstance.
Beti uses satire as a literary device to tell his story in his book. Perchance his book may have not been published had he taken a more disconcerting approach to the text. Satire became very popular during the early modern England in the mid-seventeenth century. It usually was used by anonymous authors who mocked the monarch, commonwealth, and then the Oliver Cromwell. By the 19th century it was used to mock social classes and Victorian values. Satire is known to use harsh or light humor to draw attention to a situation or a plight to try to bring attention to it, correct it, or change it. Beti uses strong satirical elements for his narrative to perhaps illustrate a problem such as colonialism to the forefront of his readers mind.
He then mixes in tradition narration like oral literature to set the tone for his story using biographical narration to tell the story of colonialism. Biographical narration is a story relating key facts or events with a person’s life. It relates a sequence of events and communicates the significance of the events to the audience. There are certain scenes and incidents in precise places which are used to describe location of events. Sensory details are vital in describing the sights, sounds, and smells of a scene. Detailed actions, movements, gestures, and feelings of the characters are used to express usage of interior monologue to depict the characters feeling.
Beti uses a biographical description in the life of the characterization of Denis. It is through his naïve eyes that the reader is exposed to the French imperialists domination of Bomba. It is through this lens that the reader sees what the main protagonist, Reverend Father Drumont, is like. The main characters in this book share a parallel to what is perhaps the link that embellishes the dramatis personae that details the account of who are the people represented in colonialism as a whole, for example, the colonizers and the colonized (Gikandi 61-70). The colonizer presents the dominant hierarchical state. This is characterized as a system of power. The elements which comprise this system are first the French government.
The French government felt compelled perhaps to take a different approach then the English to colonize Africa. They embedded their culture, language, and religion so fervently as a result today many Africa areas speak French as their first language and have remained Christian. Those perhaps resemble the colonizer are the Vicar, M. Vidal, Reverend Father Drumont and to some extend the instrument used or weapon of choice was the Catholic Church to influence the people of Bomba.
The Colonized are everyone else and possibly in the end, the reader. The Sixta women, Catherine, the narrator, Zacharia, and the men of Bomba play the roles of the colonized. Although their positions and situations emerge differently in the narrative, they are still under the colonizers rule. Their positions are different which exemplify the fact of how diverse historical factors come into play when defining the after affects of colonialism.
Each character embraces the colonizer and being colonized in a dissimilar way; therefore, the outcome of colonialism will create disparity for each type of person, such as, male, female, child, and/or new regime. This may be part of the problem in defining postcolonialism. Every person is affected uniquely and individually because each person is a separate embodiment of one another. Beti emphasis this predicament in each of his characters colonized or not, the condition is different yet the same. All play roles to feed and fuel colonialism.
The Poor Christ of Bomba is about the Frenchs Christian mission to colonize African society in order to profit and assert dominion over sovereign territories. In order for the French to carry out this mission of authority they had to try to come with gifts of humanity, tolerance, and Christianity. The French engrossed their colonies with their language, their way of life, and culture politics. Words were changed from native tongues to French words. The impact was to make African people more like the French. The French failed to see the way Africans lived and survived. The French saw them as barbaric without religion or culture. The Africans did as they were told for very different reasons and as a result, they were weakened by this dominating force.
Father Drumont is first seen as a compassionate and caring individual who symbolizes the good in a superior-like nation. He message of Christ to help save pagan people bring a message of hope to women in polygamist families and child who appear to be interested in his message. The men are not interested in hearing about Christ but are interested in what the mission may bring to help build their economic state and infrastructures for the betterment of the regions.
What happens is the African system the Africans was known is destroyed and Father Drumont realizes his failure to completely change the people. This book represents the disagreement between Christian and pagan power. This is symbolic of the disparagement between both the French and the Africans. Part of the novels creation relies heavily in the fact that the characters will finally have a better understanding of who they are at the end of the novel and how colonialism affects both sides of the aisle.
While religion plays an important role, the mission is factual a camouflage to hide the genuine reason why the French are there. The use of Christianity which even fools some of the colonizers themselves such as Father Drumont is essentially Betis archetype to use irony as a reflection of which religion and politics go hand in hand. The missionary is the representation is the epitome of irony Beti illustrates in the book. The mission is used as an excuse to continue the spreading of Christ but in reality it is the spreading French propaganda which tries and keeps the people suppressed so they wont be punished for their sins.
The narrator, Denis, is a young fourteen year old boy. He represents the reader. The reader knows possibly nothing of what colonization is or implies. As the reader continues to read the story with the narrators thoughts and dialogue with others, he starts comprehending how easily the Africans were fooled by the French. Denis, in his still naïve state is excited about the mission he will embark with Reverend Father Drumont. Denis assumes the mission is not just a spiritual quest but one of material supremacy. He is easily lured as so many Africans were. All the older characters voice their inner thoughts and Denis, because he still is very immature and makes fun of the situations at hand.
Denis is excited about the mission and the material things it will bring. The French are too but obtain grander things from it. He comments, And we need so many things—an organ for the new church, a tractor for ploughing our fields, a generator for electric light, a motor-car, and so forth (Beti 9). The mission appears to a source for financial possibilities rather than the spreading of love of Christ. In an ironical twist this is the very start when Denis starts receiving mixing messages about Father Drumont and the Christianity he represents.
Certainly Denis feels the church makes money through its members, but eventually finds out that whatever may seen convenient for the Father is convenient for the church without regard of its members and to those where the mission visits them. This inconsistency is a continual motif in the book. While Denis is influenced heavily by Father Drumont and his antics, Denis reveals a sense of maturity and knowledge in the end of the book; however, this knowledge doesnt reveal wisdom, only a sense of trying to remove himself from the problem of colonialism much like the reader may what to do so.
The character of Catherine can symbolize what Africa should be like. She is free and beautiful unlike the Sixta women, she does what she wants. Although she is under colonial rule, she is able to infiltrate the colonizers temporary rule and still live by her own standards. She maintains Africas historical past. She is mysterious, magical, and lures any man she wants. Denis falls under her spell just like the reader may also fall for her because Africa, even though not actually sexual, is sensualized in the form of Catherine.
The emphasis placed on her character by Beti also represents the hope Africa will survive colonialism and find a free self and identity after the invaders leave; however, just as everyone involved Catherine has a major issue within her of her own identity emulated perhaps in Africas because they were so easily taken in. Identity is seen as who and what you are. For Africa, who were ill prepared to fight against the Frenchs intentions and lacked the unification to gather strength among themselves, they identified themselves collectively but not enough to oppose the French (Wolfreys 95-97).
Zacharia is the cook. He is the consciousness of the colonizer even though he is in a colonized position. Beti uses this character to function as the checks and balances between the narrators inexperienced views over Father Drumonts true character. Zacharia goes on the mission along with the narrator and the Father. As a mediator of sorts and the most level headed one of the characters in the story, educates the Father and the narrator, Denis, as the journey gets underway about African culture. He seems zany, corky, and irresponsible. Beti uses this character perhaps to be the voice of the author who finally deposes and exposes Father and the system which he represents and fights so hard to maintain as a symbol of truth.
Zacharia understands Africas former self and goes on this journey to find out what the whites know that they dont. In a way, he also represents those men in the town who seem interested in Christ but really want to make money and do business alongside their oppressor, the French. He is the spokesmen for the African standpoint in the book. He understands that modern society is plagued by the importance of money, so he too wants to know more about it. In a serious, sarcastic, satirical, and ironical way, Zacharia is the only character who can bring truths of African ways to light for the reader, the narrator, and the Father. Zacharia is really the only person the Father listens to beside the system which in turn will also compromise his life as part of the damage caused by colonialism because it will displace the Father after the journey is over. The Father will then have no place to go.
What follows the Father throughout the story is Zacharias advice and knowledge about the people of Africa and the system by which propels that Father to do what he thinks he is there in Africa to do. At one pivotal point in the book that changes things around for the Father is when Zacharia tells the Father that the first notion of God didnt come from him. To much surprise, the Father questions the motives of the roadside construction to M. Vidal and is told by Vidal that his intensions are to use the people into forced labor. This is when the Father has his first realization about his mission that serves capitalistic motives over Christianity (133-34).
M. Vidal is the epitome of the colonizer. He is self-serving without a conscience and without a humane bone in his body much like the system he represents. He is the closest to the colonizer as possible. He wants to insure the people have completely submitted to the teachings of the church so they can do what the real purpose of the mission is. It is there to conquer hearts and minds as a consequent, they can work for the church and by doing so they have enslaved themselves to the very system who served them the illusion of Christianity.
The Sixta women are an example of this kind of manifested slavery granted by the Fathers teachings. The women are used for hard labor and then free sex. When it is discovered most of them have venereal disease that are seen as dirty; however, under French rule, the Father is guilty of not protecting them and placing them in a vulnerable position. This chaotic outcome is a grander scope of the missions failure under the Fathers rule. The Sixta women are submissive, turned into whore-like behavior, and are worked harder than any other kind of people under Raphaels command placed and over sought by the Father. They are forced to confess their sexual misconduct but before are beaten with a cane. The Sixta women endure punishments brought on by the Father, the supposed incontrollable sexual urges of the men, and the system that needs them to work which in many ways mirror the victimization of colonialism, the Sixta women are women are more easily taken advantage of since they are female.
The Sixta women represent what the colonizer may see as Africas people: uncivilized, promiscuous, and in need of a good spanking like misbehaved children. The Sixta women, like Africa, took a beating that was physically, physiologically, psychologically, and sociological by its colonizers. This is why it is so hard to try to define a word like postcolonialism. Parts of a major problem are the people being colonized sometimes didnt support each other much like the men who had sex with the Sixta women. The ones who would get blamed where the women, in as sense the men let their own people get beaten for their won mistakes. Instead of controlling their own urges they only added to this image of sexual savagery the colonizer already theorized that they were.
The Father, the main protagonist in the novel, Reverend Father Drumont, is the life force of the colonizer. The Father is a major part of the structure and working function of the colonizer. In retrospect, he is the colonizer because he is a major player who successful to a certain degree in colonizing the people of Africa. He brings the word of Christianity to keep the people in line. The people, like the Sixta women, are forced to work for the church and change their lifestyles to fit in. By encompassing this transition because of religion, the people in fact serve the French; therefore; the people through no fault of their own serve the colonizer because they are serving the church through the guiding hand of Father Drumont.
Father Drumont is not as harden as Vidal but he is part of the cancer that feeds the people of Africa. Beti makes Father Drumont see the error of his ways through the advice of Zacharia. By making Father Drumont see this turnover, Beti is saying that all those who helped the system work are capable of realizing why it will fail. The reason it will fail is because humanity is not perfect and truth will emerge no matter what scheme tries to suppress it (Young 5-7).
At the end of the book the reader realizes the next step is uncharted and open. Beti lays the groundwork to feel a sense of what colonization can do to people. He also leaves the question of postcolonialism up to the narrator who for some reason is clueless. It is important for Beti to end the book this way because the purpose for the book itself has been carefully and wittingly established.
Postcolonialism is considered the after affects of colonialism. Beti introduces a glimpse of who the people were who lived though the ravishment of colonialism in the town of Bomba. The book should also be noted for other insights and credited for a wondrous storytelling plights. Through the biographical narration, Beti defines the troublesome situations the characters of Bomba find themselves as those colonized may have experienced. He sets the tone and pace the underlying reason the French arrived with ulterior motives to help the people of Africa.
The multiplicity of the characters and their situations mirror the multiplicity of defining postcolonialism. Where the people go from is up to the reader. Other authors suggest two things: revolt against the oppressor or work with them (Memmi 136-141). The dilemma is that it is not that simple because while reading the book by Beti what is ventured in the mission is the complexity of colonialism to begin with. Beti tries to put a face on several varied situations through distinct characters. Perhaps Beti named his book The Poor Christ of Bomba, because one particular meaning for Bomba means a wild, rich dance that culminates between the rhythm and the dancer.
The colonizers instrument of choice to dominate the Africans was religion. The allocation of Catholicism which happened to be a less than a desirable concept to the regions alongside Bomba in the story helped serve the people of Bomba a less than desirable dance embodied the notion of Jesus and rhythmic quest of the French. Conceivably the metaphor for the title is that the combination of the Frenchs intentions with the African people just didnt sound good musically, contiguity, or even symbolically.
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Syria condemns Knesset bill to “legalize settler homes in West Bank”
Uncategorized February 7, 2017 Syria condemns Knesset bill to “legalize settler homes in West Bank”2017-02-07T00:00:00+00:00
Damascus, Syria on Tuesday condemned the so-called bill “legalizing settler homes in the West Bank,” endorsed by the Israeli Knesset which legalizes the looting of vast Palestinian territories in the West Bank.
An official source at the Foreign and Expatriates Ministry said that passing the bill by the Knesset indicates once again to the real intentions of the Israeli successive governments and their disregard of the international law and UN resolutions that condemn settlement policy in the occupied Arab lands.
“The government of Syrian Arab Republic condemns, in the strongest terms, this Zionist, illegal measure that comes as a continuation of the violations committed by Israel against the Palestinian people,” Foreign Ministry said in a statement.
It affirmed Syria’s firm, principled stance which supports the Palestinian people’s right of self-determination to establish their independent state with Jerusalem as its capital.
“Syria calls on the UN and security Council to take deterrent procedures against Israel and force it to stop its hostile measures in the occupied Arab lands, including the occupied Syrian Golan,” the Foreign Ministry said.
It concluded by saying that Syria calls on the international community to guarantee the legitimate rights of the Palestinian people and achieve the just and comprehensive peace in the region.
https://syrianewsgazette.com/syria-condemns-knesset-bill-to-legalize-settler-homes-in-west-bank/ 2017-02-07T00:00:00+00:00 syrianewsgazette.com
Damascus, Syria on Tuesday condemned the so-called bill 'legalizing settler homes in the West Bank,' endorsed by the Israeli Knesset which legalizes the looting of vast Palestinian territories in the West Bank.An official source at the Foreign and Expatriates Ministry said that passing the bill by the Knesset indicates...
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Tag Archives: Traditional songs
Geert Wilders wants mandatory blackface at Dutch festival
How would Anne Frank look at the silly situation which happens so many decades after she saw the horror which came into existence because certain people became too serious about a pure race and typical morphology of the Caucasians.
Instead of seeing a “butterfly effect“ the Low Countries may have a Big Black Book or should I say a Big Red Book slammed in their face.
Photo of Jonathan G. Meath portraying Santa Claus.(Photo credit: Wikipedia)
In many countries all over the world it is a tradition to come up every year with a very big lie for the children. All over the world we can find a ‘children festival’ were parents lie about the presents the children receive. In some countries it are the ‘Bells of Rome‘, in others it are ‘the eggs of Spring’ or the ‘Easter Bunnies‘,in others it are Saint Martin, Saint Nicholas the Santa, or even the elfs from High up North.
Best, naturally, we would not tell such lies to our children, but as people living in a democratic state we should allow such stories to stay alive and have people amusing themselves with fairy tales and traditional songs and feasts.
Trying to be over politically correct is not doing good to society. We should know what happen in the past, be aware of differences and changes, and allow traditional fun to those who want to have such fun.
We may have certain countries around us which may have a very philistine tradition and who are afraid to change things. Others do think they have to advance so much that they better get rid of all the past, like it never happened? We may find everywhere anti-intellectual groups which prefer to be a-theoretical an which to stay pragmatic. But we may encounter those people who seem to be much more afraid, instead of being sure of themselves and of their society where they live in. In case the Dutch people were sure enough they are liberal and free they should not make such a fuss about the old children songs and the tradition of Saint Nicholas, whilst they find nobody may touch Christmas because that is holy fro them, forgetting that it has nothing to do at all with the birth of Christ (who was born in October) in Palestine, where there are no fur trees and at that time no snow and certainly no elfs and flying Nordic men. Though the lie for the children about the man and his servants worries them so much that even shopkeepers become afraid to sell certain products which may relate to the servant of Saint Nicholas.
In the Netherlands the far right movement has won a lot of people. Is it not that we may find a lot of Right-wing liberals who are libertarians, who are fanatically pro-market and pro-United States, who would like to leave the European Union and join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and would therefore really just swap one federation for another? They also will feel happy with the many fundamentalist evangelicals who consider the white race the better and chosen people by their god Christ, who according to them was a white man and not a Palestinian nor a Jew. The others were lots of Dutch people are getting afraid for are those sympathetic to the far Right. Because both being against coloured people others think they have to defend the coloured in such a way, as if they can not speak for themselves, that anything which shows up a placing of such a coloured person should be considered as discrimination. They even do not want to take in consideration where the tradition came from or what it really meant, having a person becoming black because in the chimneys the soot made the servants black.
Black Pete or Zwarte Piet may be a caricature of nineteenth century house slaves, in servant’s uniform, with big red lips and golden earrings, in the Netherlands even speaking with a supposedly Surinamese accent, and in Belgium with a French/Spanish or Afrikaans accent. If we have to going to erase all sorts of caricature we shall have a lot of work, like Kitty in her article also rightly points out. But the Dutch, Belgians and French shall have to seriously consider what they are going to do with all their rebellious old popular songs and even with their national hymns. With Austrian, French, British, Spanish, Dutch, coming to fight on our grounds and terrorising people in the past, the very young Belgium has lots of songs where is being mocked with those people. When protests against such lyrics will come up and children will have to adapt and re-adapt the songs they learned in childhood it shall only contribute of many forgetting all those songs and the old culture, having them at last no ground to be proud of to belong to such or such people. At last Europe seems to find a way to have the people loose all connection with their birth-ground and their nation. And in the mean time nobody worries about all the lies which are told by parents and politicians.
The Missing Education on Black Hair (exquisitemag.com)
Tiffany Bryan, a 27-year-old cancer survivor from New York, was fired from her job for wearing an Afro. This event is not the first: Within the last 12 months soldiers in the military, grade school students, university students and hard-working members of society have been discriminated against because of their hairstyle. These women wore their hair in Afros, twist, dreadlocks and braids not because of some hair fad, but because these styles are essential for their texture of hair. Each of these events, created by a lack of fundamental knowledge on Black hair, offers an opportunity for us to talk openly about the hair of women of color. If the people that committed these acts of discrimination understood that the morphological differences of Afro-textured hair requires a different type of hair care and hairstyles than other ethnic groups, future events of discrimination can be avoided.
Orientalism (1986). Dismantling arab stereotypes perpetuated by western media. (reddit.com)
Edward Said must have one of the worst cases of “I can’t believe I still have to keep reminding you people of this shit” in history, considering “Orientalism” came out in the 70s.
Rather than learning anything, popular culture in the west seems intent on constantly forgetting as much of anything it accidentally learned about the middle east as possible.
Renewing the Radical Right (counter-currents.com)
everything’s material; all people are equal; all lives are equally important; tragedy is largely fictional; “grin and bear it.”
I believe human inequality is the basis of life, but also the basis of morality, because I believe inequality is a moral force. The real division between the Left and Right is not about people who support socialized medicine or even much more harsh measures, if you like, or divisive measures like ethnicity or abortion or whatever. The real division, philosophically, is those who believe that equality, enforced or otherwise, is a moral good (broadly the general Left) and those who believe—and are often are too frightened to say so—that inequality is a moral good, which is what the philosophical Right really believes in.
Renewing the Radical Right (therebel.org)
ere a reaction against the tendentious propositions that liberalism enfolds: everything’s material; all people are equal; all lives are equally important; tragedy is largely fictional; “grin and bear it.” Do you remember the Panglossian sort of attitude that you get in Voltaire’s Candide? You know, everything’s always for the best and this sort of utterly trivial and, in one sense, irreligious attitude towards life just sort of nauseated and appalled me. I thought that there has to be something better than this.
Dear Kitty. Some blog
This video, by the Daily Telegraph in England, recorded in Amsterdam in the Netherlands, says about itself:
Sinterklaas, the Dutch version of Father Christmas and his blacked-up helpers Zwarte Pieten, or Black Peters, arrive in Amsterdam amid protests claiming the tradition is racist.
Sinterklaas is not really ‘the Dutch version of Father Christmas’. The festival is on 6 December (and mainly on 5 December, the evening before 5 December), remembering the Christian Saint Nicholas, a fourth-century bishop in what is today Turkey. Father Christmas, or Santa Claus, was derived from Sinterklaas later in the USA, and connected to Christmas, not 5 or 6 December.
Translated from NOS TV in the Netherlands today:
The PVV
Geert Wilders‘ xenophobic party in the Netherlands
wil propose a bill which will protect Zwarte Piet.
Zwarte Piet (Black Pete) is a blackface character in the Dutch…
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Autumn traditions for 2014 – 1: Sinterklaas and Zwarte Piet
Posted on 2014/10/10 by Bijbelvorsers
The sun did not yet go under for the Summer 2014 or Sinterklaas (Saint Nicholas), Sancta Claus, the Santa, and all Winter presents were already to be found in the shops. In Flanders in May we had already a garden centre which presented a huge Christmas show, with all the new decoration gadgets for December 2014. That month there was also lots of protest having to be confronted as consumer with the Christmas period, whilst Summer had yet to start.
Sinterklaas and his servants in Amsterdam
In the Low countries we for centuries do have a children festival where on the night of 5 December presents are brought by a so called saint Nicolas and his servants who are called “zwarte pieten” “black guys” (often translated in English as Black Peters or “Black Pete“, thinking a Piet is the name of a Peter or Pete instead of the slang for a worker or guy, a toff, a bigwig or “Johnnie”). This labourer who helps to make, transport and delivers the presents by going through the chimneys, by which he becomes so black, has been the dispute already since 2012, but got in real high discussion last year. We thought we had seen it all, but this year many communities bear the consequences from the zwarte Piet” (“Black Pete”). They are afraid to have black persons standing next to Sinterklaas on the ship or on the road, on horses close to Sinterklaas risking to receive a fine or to be put in jail. Those against the colour of the ‘black petes’ have clearly forgotten that the white bishop had worked in Turkey and brought his helpers from there en from Spain, where he found Moors or Moroccan people who were willing to help him to bring goods to the poor and need, plus to the small children who could be made happy with a surprise.
Amsterdam Mayor Eberhard van der Laan had to hear in July that the Amsterdam District Court found the character of Zwarte Piet a racist caricature.. He was advised to reconsider his licensing of the annual Sinterklaas parade where the Saint enters the city on a boat with several balck sevants on the deck. In August van der Laan got back to them and said that the character of Zwarte Piet would change over the next four years; the black paint, red lips and afro wigs would be ‘toned down’.
On television several shopkeepers declared even not willing to sell black greasepaint these months, because it could be associated with them liking a Black Pete, and as such being ‘discriminating black people’. What those people against the black Pete do not want to see is that the blackness of the person has nothing to do with discrimination or by preferring black slaves. Zwarte Piet or Black Pete is a helper and not a slave of Saint Nicholas. Either on the 5th of December (in Holland) or the 6th of December (Holland and Belgium -except some parts of Flanders, Holland, North France and German districts, where they have Sint Maarten on the 11th of November in) several children in the Low Countries look forward for Saint Nicholas’ Day (6 December) where they can have a day where they can play freely with their presents of ‘the holy man’.
The whole situations seems to get out of hand when we do hear that even people are receiving death treats on both camps. In August the judicial advisor to the anti-Zwarte Piet movement, Frank King, removed himself from the judicial process around the issue after receiving several death threats, the Algemeen Dagblad reported. In an interview with the AD, King says that his heart is still in the case, and that he may get involved again some time.
“If the topic makes it to the European Human Rights Court, they can call me”,
King tells the AD.
Every one should have to have the right to have a defence layer or professional advisor, not having to mean that this adviser totally agrees with the person he talks for. from Leiden is done. Frank King believes that there is some kind of schism between what he thinks he is doing, and what others think he’s doing.
“I seem myself as lawyer of the counter-movement against Zwarte Piet. But the supporters see that differently. They now see me as the face of the counter-movement. And are directing their anger at me.”
Recently, the lawyer has received threats and abuse on all levels of communication. He receives the worst by mail. He is threatened, and he is abused because he has parents from Suriname.
“One mail said that I should have been put on a 17th century slave ship, just like my ancestors.”
King has had enough of the abuse, as well as the case, which is taxing in time. Though King does emphasize that he is proud of his involvement, and proud of the progress made.
Geert Wilders and his followers do have a problem with coloured people and made it that several Dutch people have become weary about the black coloured people and traditional black figures. In Belgium and Holland or the Netherlands we even do not know any more what we are allowed to say for a person with an other skin than the Caucasian race. There was a time we were not allowed to say ‘zwarte’ (‘black’) any more and had to say ‘neger’ (niger) but then this was not as seen as polite any more so ‘negro type’ and ‘negroïde’ were introduced. After a while this was not done any more and we had to use “immigrant” (“immigrant”) but soon this was considered to be a sobriquet and was to be replaced with “allochtoon” (foreign, alien, allochthonous), which is now also nearly becoming a nickname or giving a sign of ‘giving the other person the stigma’ of being a ‘profiteer’. This really indicates in our regions we are getting a real race problem.
Classic drawing of Sinterklaas and Zwarte Piet (Saint Nicholas and Black Pete) every young person in the Low Countries formerly grew up with
For centuries at schools across the country, children sang songs referring to the skin tone and character of the black servant “…even if I’m black as coal I mean well…”, “Saint Nicholas, enter with your black servant”, etc,. Many object that in some old songs about Zwarte Piet, he is presented as not being a very clever boy, even being a little bit stupid, a little bit clumsy, more akin to a child than an adult, the same generalisations previously applied to black people, but which can no longer be made explicitly.
Now nothing may be black any more or it would be associated with denigration. As a joke in 2012 already a funny video was introduced where a “zwarte piet” was presented as a worker you could hire or buy to do all the little and harder works in the household and at the office or could even be used as you masseur or “puppy” or “doll” in bed.
The whole situation became so ludicrous that several funny video’s turn up and even companies are making advertisement spots, like we could see one, last night for fund recruitment for cancer treatment, where we could see a “Zwarte Pieten” training school in Africa which had lost so much money because nobody wanted a black Pete any more, they nearly could continue working but a solution was found having new recruits with white bold children wanting to learn for ‘piet'[(Sorry no video available of this (yet)].
Concerning supermarkets not willing to present anything any more which refers to ‘Zwarte Piet’ a satirical video was already placed on Youtube. It was first presented on The PowNews of October 9, 2014: The Albert Heijn wants Zwarte Piet “wegjorissen” (take them out of the picture), but the helpers are not pleased with it and do not want to give up their job, which they like very much. Therefore a boycott was set up before the Alber Heijn supermarkets by the helpers of Sinterklaas (Saint Nicholas) in Appie, Oostzaan.
Geert Wilders wants mandatory blackface at Dutch festival (dearkitty1.wordpress.com)
If Wilders wants to ban changing songs’ lyrics, then he will have very much work to do. Throughout history, old songs have been adapted with new lyrics. Protestant churches in the Netherlands and elsewhere have changed the lyrrics of their hymns and psalms frequently. Does Wilders want to jail the Protestant dignitaries responsible for that? He can’t jail all of them, as most are already dead. The Belgian national anthem’s lyrics have changed many times.
Santa’s helper is a racist caricature (newint.org)
It’s been a month since Amsterdam Mayor Eberhard van der Laan announced his decision to cancel Christmas. Or at least that’s how Anneka Hendriks laughingly describes it to me. Hendriks is one of the hundreds of people in Amsterdam who enjoy painting their faces black, donning afro wigs and gold hoop earrings, and celebrating the festive season by masquerading as Zwarte Piet (Dutch for ‘Black Pete’).
‘Hundreds’ is a conservative estimate; it’s probably more like thousands or tens of thousands when the rest of the Netherlands is taken into account.
The Netherlands plan a nationwide consultation on the controversial Black Pete tradition (independent.co.uk)
The Deputy Prime Minister of the Netherlands has announced that he will be organising a consultation on the role that ‘Black Petes’ should play during the festive opening of the Sinterklaas season this year.
Minister Lodewijk Asscher plans to bring relevant parties together to discuss possible changes to the controversial tradition ahead of the televised event on 15 November. The talks will include the national broadcaster and the council of Gouda, the host town.
Asscher says: “Last year things were very polarised. Everyone should be able to enjoy the festivities again.”
The Dutch have indeed taken a clear stance in defence of their beloved Pete. The Prime Minister Mark Rutte reflected the feelings of the majority of the population when he responded to criticisms by saying: “Black Pete, that already says it, he’s black. We can’t change much about that”.
Dutch ‘Zwarte Piet’: Innocent Holiday Tradition or Inadvertent Racism? (ny.thedailydigest.org)
When I was a little kid (“little” being ages 10 through 17), I lived in the Netherlands Antilles and in the Netherlands. That was back in the 50s.
I remember them (sometimes there were dozens of them) running and clowning around with their burlap sacks — scaring the daylights out of some little kids might be a better term — in parades, shopping centers and, as legend had it, coming down the chimney while you were sleeping.
Dutch ‘Zwarte Pieten’: Innocent Tradition or Inadvertent Racism? (themoderatevoice.com)
going back 60 years, Zwarte Pieten were white adolescents with painted black faces (supposedly from the soot picked up scaling down all those chimneys), thick, painted-on, bright-red lips, lots of frizzy black hair, many other “ornaments” such as big gold hoop earrings…and beautiful Dutch blue or green eyes. (No colored contact lenses in those days).
They were Sinterklaas’ knechten (servants) who would help Sinterklaas deliver sweets and gifts to those kids who had behaved throughout the year and would leave only a lump of coal for those children who had not been very nice. Legend and rumor also had it that they would stuff kids who had been naughty and bad into their burlap sacks and haul them back to Spain, or Morocco, or Turkey or wherever current folklore had it that the Zwarte Pieten came from.
The Dutch Christmas with Zwarte Pieten in Blackface (usslave.blogspot.com)
From Forbes, “The Unbearable Whiteness of Piet-ing: Dutch Santa’s Blackface Elves,” by John Giuffo (Contributor), on 4 December 2012 — Christmastime in Amsterdam has a special kind of magic, and a unique kind of controversy.
White lights slide down buildings and arch across shopping streets, multiplying their twinkle in canal reflections. No garish multi-color, animatronic ego contests anywhere. You will hear Christmas music, but you’re not assaulted, and dreams of restraining orders against Bing Crosby never fill your head (unfortunately, the same couldn’t be said of his children). No one is trampled in shopping frenzies, no one gets arrested for assaulting line-cutters, and the gift giving comes in early December, separate from the more low-key holiday of the 25th. Family members write sardonic poems for each other. Poems! Glühwein – a sort of hot Christmas sangria – warms hands and bellies. And Sinterklaas arrives not on a reindeer-pulled sleigh laden with loot, but on a white horse, accompanied by a small cohort of his helpers, the Zwarte Pieten, or Black Petes – white revelers coated in blackface.
Virtual Advent Tour & Giveaway: The Dutch Celebration of Sinterklaas (leeswammes.wordpress.com)
Sinterklaas has been a tradition in the Netherlands for hundreds of years. Originally, this bishop came to bring money to the poor, but these days it’s a children’s celebration.
Just like lots of children all over the world believe in Santa Claus, in the Netherlands it’s Sinterklaas they believe in and usually stop believing in around 7 or 8 years’ of age.
Zwarte Piet has sweets in his bag (although in the old days he would use his bag to transport naughty children back to Spain!), notably pepernoten, which are small, slightly spicy biscuits (cookies). Usually Zwarte Piet will throw these around and kids collect them from the floor (when outdoors they get a fistful in their hand).
Sinterklaas, A Historically Correct (But Politically Incorrect) Children’s Tradition (urbantimes.co)
The Dutch picture the character of ‘Zwarte Piet’ (translated Black Pete) as helper with a controversial black African look: blackface, curly wig, red lips, sometimes Creole earrings. The outfit is colourful, topped of by a cap with feathers and a ruffle like a Renaissance page.
This year, the usual discussion has been overrun by the decision of the former Dutch colony Suriname to ban Sinterklaas completely. Up until now Sinterklaas had been celebrated in Suriname the same way as in Holland: with a white priest coming from Spain on a boat with his black helpers… Evidently, this custom doesn’t fit in a country where white people only account for 5% of the population.
be what you want to be (piadrent.blogspot.com)
The helpers are called ‘Black Petes’ and they are funny and a bit stupid.
This may have been fine half a century ago, but in today’s day we find that discriminative and offensive. So there is a restyling movement for Black Petes happening right now. First, we will be calling them Petes, and second, their skin tone is becoming more flexible.
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Gresley all-steel BG (model)
Full historical notes and 18 pictures are here.
There is no kit for this BG, the prime one on the ECML, so I asked William Barter to make a custom etch. And built it with MJT parts.
But first, I'd like to say that we tried something mildly heroic in an area that is the bane of etched brass coach building of steel or steel-panelled bodies: the grade of brass that is used normally is too springy and resists forming. In old money (I am going to use the old terms because they have the advantage of lucidity) the grade was called "1/2 hard". And it's not meant to be a formable grade. "1/4 hard" would be better, but it's not available. Comet Models offer a solution for Big Four era stock by pre-forming it with a press but, alas, it's an exaggerated LMS profile. No problem to many eyes I'm sure, but for Gresley and Thompson coaches, the tumblehome was quite gentle and from the mid-waist.
So we tried the next grade that is available, which is "fully annealed". Well, dear readers, the tumblehome was a dream to form: a fabulous profile that took no effort at all. But then, I dropped the side onto the floor... and it became a write-off. It was too soft, at least in 4mm scale. So we have been forced to stay with "1/2 hard" brass, and do the business of forming the tumblehome as before: around a piece of skirting board gripped in a Workmate. Panelled sides don't have this problem because the etching process removes one of the work-hardened skins on the brass sheet. At least we tried!
The first view shows the sides being made up while still flat: in the upper view the tumblehome has been formed and the strip along the waist added. In the lower view, droplight, hinges and bump stops have been fitted and holes are being drilled through the horizontal strip to take the long handrails - a feature of early LNER BGs that doesn't show on many photographs and tends not to be noticed by modellers. Look at the colour picture above of the BG in red photographed on a sunny day: the handrails are quite clear. Fortunately for modellers of later BGs, Gresley dropped this feature.
- Click on the image for a larger view.
The MJT floorpan - it's the slightly narrower BG one - with side tabs and ends folded up, awaiting the sides.
The sides have had the top tab folded down and been attached to the floor pan.
My apologies for the soft focus of this shot but you should be able to see the solebars attached. They were pre-drilled with holes for the long step supports (0.5mm wire which is more robust than the MJT tabs). The ends don't show in any of the pictures: I used the MJT cast ends with the beading removed.
A closer view of an end with the aforementioned holes in the solebar clear to see, and Milliput in the holes along the waist after I had to open up a few. I'd struggled to get them all central and this fix was handy. The lighting is very oblique to show the effect of this strip along the waist (on the prototype it covered the joins between the steel sheets used to make the body).
The bogies were pure MJT: castings and compensation. To my eye these are the best Fox bogies on the market.
The finished body and underframe being painted, requiring multiple masking. The black underframe will represent the ex-works condition. The body has received a coat of mid-brown upon which the teak will be grained. At this stage the nature of the vehicle is unmistakable. Again, the lighting is at an oblique angle to show the basic simplicity of the vehicle.
A general view with the light positioned to highlight the teak graining and lining that was used to simulate the panelling. The long handrails along the waist also stand out. Since completing the model I have learned that such ironwork was probably painted brown. That would of course make it hard to see on the model, a shame after all the effort!
A big feature is the absence of trussing with the battery boxes (two sets, one on each side) hung from the floor in the same way as on vehicles with turnbuckle trussing.
The view from the other side, with a little reflected light to show the steel body sides. I didn't want to overdo this and the model is best seen in the flesh: it runs in the "Flying Scotsman" on Cliff's The Gresley Beat, where it really stands out compared with the panelled stock in the rest of the train. Also noticeable is the roof which looks a bit like a boiler! I used the MJT system, adding the "boiler bands" with Microstrip.
Another feature is the Fox bogies (MJT again) which lend an old-fashioned feel to the model, despite the absence of trussing. It's a bundle of contradictions, this van.
A closer view of one of the ends from a higher angle shows the boiler bands. As far as I could tell, they did not continue below the rainstrip, possibly internally? There may be no panelling on the sides but there's still quite a bit of detail and the model is far from plain.The Fox bogie was the standard fitting on all bogie vans at the time.
The middle of the model seen from the other side. As always, the guard's door opened inwards, hence no visible hinges (they were internal), and the bottom of the door was higher to clear the interior floor. The long handrails along the waist are prominent.
Gresley all-steel BG service is here.
ECJS and GNR clerestory BG: is here.
56'6" ECJS and GNR BG: is here.
Thompson 61'6" deal BG: is here.
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A to Z, Groups, Crystal Gems,
Citizens of Beach City
Who are the Crystal Gems?
This is our home, our planet, our friends and family! We are the Crystal Gems!
—Steven Universe, "Reunited"
This article is about the team. You may be looking for the theme song.
Magical Ladies (Mayor Dewey)
Rose Quartz's Old Lackeys (Aquamarine)
Rebels/The Rebellion (Multiple Homeworld Gems)
Weirdo Hippie Martian Immigrants (Andy DeMayo)
Her Other Friends (Spinel)
Garnet (current/de facto)
Rose Quartz (formerly)
Founded by
Rose Quartz (secretly Pink Diamond)
Connie Maheswaran (confirmed in "Rocknaldo"; as of "Sworn to the Sword")
Peridot (as of "Message Received")
Lapis Lazuli (as of "Reunited")
Biggs Jasper
Self-proclaimed guardians of Earth
Crystal Gem mutants
The Crystal Gems, also referred to as the Rebels, are a group of Gems established by Pink Diamond under the guise of Rose Quartz. Unlike the rest of their kind, they seek to protect Earth instead of exploiting it and are the self-proclaimed guardians of humanity. Their title distinguishes them from Homeworld Gems.
Garnet: The level-headed and pragmatic de facto leader of the group and a fusion Gem who wields a pair of gauntlets, later with spiked brass knuckles added. She joined the Crystal Gems after deciding to stay a permanent fusion and meeting Rose Quartz. She is the brawler of the group, using her gauntlets to inflict destructive attacks.
Ruby: A short-tempered Gem who makes up half of Garnet. She wields a maroon gauntlet. Initially a low-level Homeworld Gem soldier, she was to be destroyed for accidentally fusing with Sapphire, but was saved by her and stranded on Earth. She joined the Crystal Gems after deciding to stay permanently fused as Garnet.
Sapphire: A calm, yet distant Gem, and the other half of Garnet. Any weapon aside from her future vision has not been seen. Initially a member of Blue Diamond's court, she defected to protect Ruby and joined the Crystal Gems after deciding to stay permanently fused as Garnet.
Amethyst: The fun-loving and carefree member of the group who wields a one-to-three-tailed whip with morning stars on the end. Unlike the other Crystal Gems (besides Steven, who is also from Earth), Amethyst was made on Earth, in the Prime Kindergarten.
Pearl: The intellectual and precise member of the group who wields a spear. She and Rose were the first members of the group.
Steven Universe: The optimistic and compassionate half-human and youngest member of the group who has healing saliva, and can summon a pink shield and bubble. He is the son of Rose Quartz, the founder of the Crystal Gems, who gave up her physical form to give birth to him. After growing up in the care of his father, he began living with the Crystal Gems as a member in his adolescence.
Peridot: The arrogant, curious, and stubborn one of the group. She is a natural-born technician and a certified Kindergartner. She was once an enemy to the Crystal Gems, but was officially accepted into the group after disobeying Yellow Diamond in "Message Received". Due to her natural-born skill in engineering and constructing, she is considered to be a technician and engineer of the group like Pearl.
Bismuth: The boisterous and friendly weaponsmith of the Crystal Gems from the Rebellion era more recently brought to light. Rose showed her she could follow her own wants, but when that included shattering Gems, she and Rose got into a fight, and the latter poofed and bubbled her. She was previously bubbled in the Burning Room due to her battle with Steven over the same issue, but Steven later released her to make amends and invite her back onto the team in "Made of Honor". As stated by herself, her power is equal to Garnet.
Lapis Lazuli: An apathetic and laid-back terraforming Gem who presumably served under Blue Diamond, Lapis became Steven's friend in "Mirror Gem" despite having major trust issues and low self-esteem. Starting as an enemy of the Crystal Gems in "Ocean Gem", Lapis later became an ally by warning the group about Peridot and Jasper, then saving them by fusing with the latter into Malachite. Months later the Crystal Gems were reunited with her after Alexandrite split Malachite apart, becoming friends and roommates with Peridot at the Barn in "Barn Mates". In "The New Crystal Gems", she is declared a member of the "Crystal Temps". Lapis later fled Earth in "Raising the Barn" after hearing the word of Blue and Yellow Diamond coming to Earth, only to return and officially become a Crystal Gem in "Reunited".
Connie Maheswaran: Steven's intelligent and ambitious human friend and ally. Connie took up swordsmanship in "Sworn to the Sword", to join and protect Steven and preserve his legacy. In "Rocknaldo", Steven confirms her place as a member of the group. She also serves as a member of the Crystal Temps.
Lion: A magical lion that became Steven's pet in "Steven's Lion", but was revealed in "Lion 3: Straight to Video" to have a connection with Rose Quartz, which was explored more in-depth in "Rose's Scabbard".
Biggs Jasper: A member of the Crystal Gems, before being corrupted and bubbled. She was later healed in "Change Your Mind".
Snowflake Obsidian: One of the original Crystal Gems, before being corrupted in the Gem War. She was later healed in "Change Your Mind".
Crazy Lace Agate: A Quartz fusion who was temporarily corrupted by the Diamonds. She was later uncorrupted and is now an employee at Funland.
Larimar: A member of the Crystal Gems, before being corrupted during the Gem War. She was eventually healed in "Change Your Mind".
Tiger's Eye (formerly corrupted; mentioned by Bismuth)
Beryl (formerly corrupted; mentioned by Bismuth)
Serpentine (formerly corrupted; mentioned by Bismuth)
Garnet: A tough, mysterious, and very stable fusion. First confirmed in "Jail Break", she is the fusion of Ruby and Sapphire.
Opal (revealed in "Giant Woman"): A four-armed, tall and slender Gem who wields an energy bow. She is the fusion of Pearl and Amethyst.
Sugilite (revealed in "Coach Steven"): A gigantic and bulky Gem who wields a flail. She is the fusion of Garnet and Amethyst.
Sardonyx (revealed in "Cry for Help"): An upbeat and charismatic Gem who wields a war hammer. She is the fusion of Garnet and Pearl.
Alexandrite (revealed in "Fusion Cuisine"): An extremely tall, six-armed fusion with an extra mouth that can emit flames. She is the fusion of Garnet, Pearl, and Amethyst.
Rainbow Quartz (revealed in "We Need to Talk"): A tall, slim, and acrobatic fusion. She is the fusion of Rose Quartz and Pearl.
Obsidian (Rose fusion) (depicted in "Historical Friction" and the Crystal Temple): A ginormous fusion with two faces, large curly hair, and at least four arms. She saved William Dewey and Buddy Buddwick from the Unknown Giant Gem Monster and helped them find land centuries ago. She is the fusion of Rose Quartz, Garnet, Pearl, and Amethyst.
Stevonnie (revealed in "Alone Together"): A tall, 3/4-human and 1/4-Gem fusion. They are the hybrid fusion of Steven and Connie.
Smoky Quartz (revealed in "Earthlings"): A chubby jokester, 1/4-human and 3/4-Gem fusion who wields a large yo-yo. They are the fusion of Steven and Amethyst.
Rainbow Quartz 2.0 (revealed in "Change Your Mind"): An eccentric 1/4-human and 3/4-Gem fusion who wields a parasol. They are the fusion of Steven and Pearl.
Sunstone (revealed in "Change Your Mind"): A radical 1/6-human and 5/6-Gem fusion who wields a pair of suction cups. They are the fusion of Steven and Garnet.
Obsidian (Steven fusion) (revealed in "Change Your Mind"): A ginormous, eight-armed, 1/10-human and 9/10-Gem fusion, with two faces that contain lava, who wields a greatsword. They are the hybrid fusion of Steven, Garnet, Pearl, and Amethyst.
Crazy Lace Agate (revealed in "Change Your Mind"): A Quartz fusion who was temporarily corrupted by the Diamonds. She was later uncorrupted and is now an employee at Funland.
Steg (revealed in Steven Universe: The Movie): A stylish and buff 3/4-human and 1/4-Gem fusion. He is the hybrid fusion of Steven and Greg.
Mega Pearl (revealed in "Volleyball"): A fusion between Pearl and Pink Pearl, who comes to terms with her components' views towards Pink Diamond and saves Steven.
Rose Quartz: Steven's mother, and the former leader and founder of the Crystal Gems who believed all life is precious. She gave up her physical form so that Steven could be born. It is later learned that she was actually Pink Diamond in a new form.
Other Unknown Amethysts (mentioned by Bismuth)
Two Unknown Crystal Gems (rebellion flashback in "Gemcation")
Other Crystal Gems (rebellion flashback in "Your Mother and Mine")
Allies/Companions
Greg Universe: Rose Quartz's lover and Steven's father. He knew the Crystal Gems when he was a young adult and currently supports them mostly to be a part of his son's life ("Laser Light Cannon", "Ocean Gem", "House Guest", "The Message").
Sadie Miller: Sadie aided the Crystal Gems' cause in "Island Adventure" when she helps Steven defeat the Invisible Gem Monster on Mask Island.
Watermelon Stevens: A group of sentient watermelons accidentally created by Steven with his healing spit. Although originally disobedient to Steven and hostile to the other Crystal Gems, they do however become allies in "Super Watermelon Island" when they help the Crystal Gems defeat Malachite by distracting her long enough for Alexandrite to defeat her. They also help Steven again in "Escapism".
Pumpkin: Pumpkin is the sentient pumpkin pet of Peridot and Lapis Lazuli, created by Steven in the episode "Gem Harvest". Pumpkin stood in as the role of 'Pearl' in "The New Crystal Gems" in the team of the "Crystal Temps" with Peridot, Lapis, and Connie Maheswaran.
The "Famethyst": A group of Quartz soldiers from Earth stationed in Pink Diamond's Zoo. They befriended Amethyst and assisted the Crystal Gems in escaping the facility in "That Will Be All".
Ronaldo Fryman: A Beach City resident interested in the odd occurrences around him. He attempts to join the Crystal Gems in "Rocknaldo" going by the name "Bloodstone" after gaining admiration for their cause. After misunderstanding what it means to be a Crystal Gem, he decides to work alone to educate people about the group by making pamphlets about the Crystal Gems.
Lars Barriga: Aboard Aquamarine's Ship, Lars was taken captive to Homeworld with Steven. Upon escaping the Diamonds and meeting the Off Colors, Lars sacrificed himself and was subsequently reanimated by Steven. After undergoing a magical transformation, Lars leads the Off Colors as a crew of space pirates heading for Earth in "Lars of the Stars".
Off Colors: After Steven and Lars land on Homeworld, they encounter a group of unaligned Gems, cast out from Homeworld society for being abnormal, defective, or permafusions. After befriending Steven and Lars, the Off Colors are lead by a reanimated Lars after commandeering a starship and making their getaway towards Earth.
Cat Steven: A calico cat of an unknown breed adopted by Garnet in "Pool Hopping". After finding and rescuing her and her siblings alongside Steven, she adopts her, as she had missed having someone "cute and vulnerable" to care for.
The Cluster: Comprised of shattered Gems, the Cluster comes into its own and aids the Crystal Gems in "Reunited" by fighting and destroying Yellow Diamond's ship before going back to its bubble.
Pebbles: After Steven came in his mother's old room he had a first met with Pebbles in "Familiar". And after Connie, Amethyst, Pearl, and Garnet arrive in Pink Diamond's old room while reuniting with Steven, they met the Pebbles and thinks they're cute and friendly. They build the furniture all night to remind the Crystal Gems like the one back on Earth in "Together Alone".
Yellow Diamond: After learning the truth about Rose being Pink Diamond, she, along with Blue Diamond and Steven, attempt to heal Nephrite. When the attempt fails she travels to Homeworld with the other Crystal Gems to negotiate with White Diamond on permanently curing the corrupted Gems. However, their relationship would sour during the Era 3 ball in "Together Alone": Yellow Diamond is infuriated with Steven after he fuses with Connie, locking him into a prison tower after poofing the other Crystal Gems. As of "Change Your Mind", however, she seems to have made peace with them.
Blue Diamond: Similarly with Yellow Diamond, she ceases her hostility towards the Crystal Gems and assists Steven in curing corruption once convinced of Steven's true identity. Additionally, she is willing to help the Crystal Gems return to Earth after being convinced that Pink Diamond is happier there.
White Diamond: Initially, White is hostile to the Crystal Gems, attacking them and turning Amethyst, Garnet, and Pearl into mindless slaves, like her Pearl. She eventually sided with them after her cheeks turn pink when Pink fails to reform, and later helps heal the corrupted Gems.
Blue Pearl: Along with Yellow Pearl, she helped the Crystal Gems get ready for the "Era 3" ball. After Steven asked what she and Yellow Pearl like to do, Blue Pearl answered him that she likes to draw and laughed upon realizing that Steven thinks she likes being an artist. In Steven Universe: The Movie, she helps Steven broadcast his "message to the universe".
Yellow Pearl: Along with Blue Pearl, she helped the Crystal Gems get ready for the "Era 3" ball. Additionally, she saw a drawing of herself by Blue Pearl and liked it and laughed upon realizing that Steven thinks she likes being a model. In Steven Universe: The Movie, she helps Steven broadcast his "message to the universe".
Spinel: After being hit with the Gem Rejuvenator, Spinel reverts to her original form and immediately latches on to Steven as her "best friend." Later, after regaining her memories of her time in Pink Diamond's Garden, Steven apologizes to Spinel for his mother's actions and encourages her to overcome her vendetta against Pink and make new friends. Afterward, Steven and the gems support her decision to return to Homeworld and make a fresh start with the Diamonds, and she departs on positive terms.
Topaz: In "Stuck Together", during Steven and Lars' captivity, Steven manages to befriend the Topaz Fusion to the point where she decides to help them escape. Before they can, however, Aquamarine catches them and reminds the fusion of the consequences of betraying the Diamonds: her two halves would be separated and shattered. Realizing her error, Topaz resumes her mission to deliver Steven and Lars to Homeworld. In "Little Homeschool", she is seen in a sort of meditation class with Garnet and many other gems.
Pink Pearl: Steven and Pearl attempt to help heal her cracked eye in "Volleyball" and Mega Pearl states that she and Pearl have each other now that Pink Diamond is gone.
Temporary Allies
Navy: In the episode "Room for Ruby", Navy claims she wants to stay and live on Earth, but it turns out to be a plot to retrieve the Roaming Eye.
Zircon (Defense): Zircon is assigned to defend "Rose Quartz" (Steven) in her trial, much to her dismay, and is surprised to see the form "Rose" has taken. Although their interactions are mostly influenced by her job, she tries her best to defend "Rose" to the point that she manages to come up with a strong argument. She gets caught up in the moment and accuses the Diamonds, getting poofed by Yellow Diamond as a result.
Lemon Jade: Two Jades fuse into Lemon Jade after seeing Garnet and Opal form during "Together Alone", but are quickly poofed by Yellow Diamond.
Bluebird Azurite: The fusion of Aquamarine and Eyeball, who pretends to be a kind Gem befriending the Crystal Gems, causing them to end up genuinely trusting her for a time, only for them to end up fusing into Alexandrite and smashing her when they spot her attacking Steven.
Over 6,000 Years Ago
Pink Diamond had begged the other Diamonds for a colony of her own until she was finally allowed to have one. Pink chose Earth to be her colony, and like any other Diamond, she sent her Gems to the planet to begin building structures and Kindergartens. The Prime Kindergarten and other structures were successfully established, but Pink soon discovered the life that lived on Earth. She grew fascinated by humans and other lifeforms and knew that if the colony was completed, the Kindergartens would drain all of the life force from the Earth and destroy all life that lived there. Pink attempted to reason with the other Diamonds as to why they could not complete the colony, but when they did not listen, Pink created an alter-ego named Rose Quartz through shape-shifting. Rose Quartz would be used to start a rebellion in an attempt to save the Earth, and nobody would know that it was Pink Diamond behind it all. Pink Diamond (as Rose Quartz) and her Pearl rebelled, founding the Crystal Gems.
Rose explained to Pearl that by joining her, they could never go home, and if they were caught, they would be killed, which Pearl accepted. At the Ancient Sky Arena, Pearl familiarized herself with the human concept of being a knight and using swords. Later on, Blue Diamond established her court on Earth intending to shatter Rose and Pearl for their rebellion. Ruby and Sapphire assisted Blue Diamond and fought against the rebels, but to save Sapphire from Pearl, Ruby accidentally fused with her, an act that is disgusting to Homeworld Gems. Because of this, Ruby was to be shattered for fusing with the high ranking Sapphire, but the two manage to get away. After spending a lot of time together and developing romantic feelings for each other, Ruby and Sapphire fuse again, and Garnet is accepted into the Crystal Gems. Over time, Rose amassed an army and was able to connect with many Gems who shared her same ideals, such as Bismuth. At the Prime Kindergarten, Rose gave a speech to the other Quartzes, asking if them if what they wanted was to inject Gems and build structures. She also asks if they will destroy the life that's already on Earth or join it. Rose's message got around and resonated with many Gems. Pink Diamond's empathy towards the Earth and beliefs about the Kindergarten's injustice instigated her to defect from her fellow Gems; she truly cared for every form of life on the planet. Another reason that Pink formed the Crystal Gems was that she disagreed with how Homeworld's society ran; she believed that Gems shouldn't have to do what the Diamonds wanted them to do, but instead choose their own lives and fate. When the Crystal Gems began to make themselves known, Pink Diamond told Yellow and Blue at the Moon Base that the colony couldn't be completed because of them, but they still would not listen. Because of this, Pink Diamond decided to wage war against Homeworld to save the Earth.
The Rebellion officially begins against the Gem Homeworld. Little is known about the ensuing war. Many battles were fought and took place in different locations all over Earth, such as the Ancient Sky Arena, the Cloud Arena, and the Strawberry Battlefield. According to Eyeball, Rose was able to keep her army in contention with Homeworld's superior army because of her healing abilities. Bismuth mentions how she and Garnet took on a battalion of Quartz soldiers together, and how she and Pearl stopped a drop ship when Pearl threw the Nephrite pilot out of the ship. Bismuth supplied the Crystal Gems with weapons that she created in her forge, and Rose kept most of them in her armory. Around this time, Rose and Bismuth had a fall out due to conflicting ideas, leading Rose to bubble Bismuth and tell the Crystal Gems that she was lost at the "Battle of the Ziggurat". It is believed that humans also fought alongside the Crystal Gems.
Around this time, Pink Diamond no longer wanted anything to do with Homeworld or her duties as a Diamond. With Pearl, Pink Diamond crushed up dirt and turned it into pink shards. Pink ate the shards and then had Pearl shapeshift into Rose and pretend to shatter her in front of other Gems. From that point on, Pink Diamond was now able to live freely as Rose and Pearl belonged to nobody.
At this point, Earth is no longer seen as a viable colony to Homeworld. With one final effort to wipe out the Crystal Gems, the Diamonds unleashed the Corrupting Light, corrupting any Gems exposed to the blast. Rose was able to protect herself, Garnet, and Pearl from becoming corrupted with her shield.
Post Rebellion
The Gems many years before the events of the show.
The remaining Crystal Gems used their abilities to defend Earth from countless threats. As Rose wished, the Crystal Gems contained the Corrupted Gems in bubbles. Rose made it the Crystal Gems' mission to one day figure out how to cure Corrupted Gems. The Crystal Gems also met and recruited Amethyst, who popped out of the Prime Kindergarten too late to fight in the Rebellion. After falling in love with Greg Universe, Rose, a great admirer of humanity, gave up her physical form to give birth to a half-human child, Steven Universe. The other remaining Crystal Gems (Garnet, Amethyst, and Pearl) have taken it upon themselves to raise him alongside Greg and teach him how to use his powers.
With Homeworld gaining new interest in Earth, Steven and the Crystal Gems continue to protect humanity and contain Corrupted Gems. In "I Am My Mom" and on The Steven Universe Podcast, is shown that the Diamonds know that the Crystal Gems are still active but have decided to just leave them alone and they aren't imagining the Crystal Gems will be an intelligent adversary, as all lifeforms Gems have encountered up to this point weren't difficult to overcome.
Manifesto of Rose Quartz
The following is the Manifesto of Rose Quartz, revealed by Pearl in The Guide to the Crystal Gems:[1]
"Fight for life on the planet Earth,
Defend all human beings, even the ones that you don't understand,
Believe in love that is out of anyone's control,
And then risk everything for it!"
The Crystal Gems own a section of Beach City's shoreline, on which the Crystal Temple and Steven's Beach House are located. The Barn belongs to Greg and his cousin Andy, but the Gems have effectively taken ownership, using it as a house for new members and to build any required machinery such as The Universe Mach 3 and the Gem Drill. Lapis Lazuli and Peridot formerly lived in the Barn which used to reside on a hill outside of Beach City. In "Raising the Barn", fearing the threat of a diamond attack, Lapis took the barn with her to the moon where it stayed until "Can't Go Back". The barn is currently wreckage on the beach as of "Reunited". Steven and the Crystal Gems temporarily lived in his mother's old room in her palace on the Gem Homeworld, with Pink Diamond's old little friends, the Pebbles.
Lion occasionally acts as a transportation for the Crystal Gems to places they cannot warp to, such as the Moon Base. As of "Bubbled", they owned a Roaming Eye ship that the Rubies left behind, but it was stolen back by Navy in "Room for Ruby". They have also used the Gem Sloop for traveling at sea, though it hasn't been seen since "Cat Fingers". As of "Legs From Here to Homeworld", Steven has gained access to his mother's personal ship and palanquin.
Physical Weaponry
Unbeknownst to all members of the Crystal Gems except Steven, Pearl, Connie, and Lion, the team has access to an Armory containing more Laser Light Cannons and other various weaponry. They also have a Forge which can be used by their blacksmith, Bismuth.
The Crystal Gems' section of the beach
Rose's Armory
Bismuth's Forge
The Gem Sloop
Gem Drill
Pink Diamond's Ship
Pink Diamond's old room in her palace.
Instead of stars on their clothing similar to the current Crystal Gems, the Pilot versions have little gold stars pinned to themselves (Garnet's torso, Pearl's earrings, and Amethyst's hair barrette).
The process for each Gem to summon their weapons depends on a different state of mind for each of them.
Amethyst places little effort or concentration, claiming that it "just happens" when she needs to summon her weapon.
Pearl claims her process as being perfect and calculated, using the "dance" of a flower petal in the wind to describe how hard work and dedication can help master the properties of one's own gem and "perform their own dance".
Garnet claims that she summons her gauntlets by linking her mind with the energy of all existing matter, channeling the collective power of the universe through her gems, matching her calm and meditative temperament.
Steven's means of summoning his shield rely on his feelings of passion or desire to protect other people/Gems, although in "Gem Glow", the joy associated with eating Cookie Cat ice cream was what summoned it. In both his "Ocean Gem" and "The Return" appearances, he summoned it when it was needed to protect those he loved from a large threat, much like his bubble in "Bubble Buddies".
Lapis Lazuli's water clones of the Crystal Gems.
All Crystal Gems, except for Ruby, Sapphire, and Connie (and the remaining Crystal Gems) have stars located somewhere on their outfits.
Steven and Stevonnie: on his/their T-shirt.
Garnet: star-shaped visor, stars on her gauntlets and tilted star pattern on her chest.
Amethyst: on her shorts.
Pearl: on the back of her jacket and a tilted star pattern above her top.
Bismuth: tattoo-like marking on her right arm and a light red apron with a tilted star pattern.
Peridot: on her chest and knees.
Lapis Lazuli: the navy blue portions of her outfit
Opal: on the draping section of her top.
Rose Quartz: star-shaped cut out on the torso of her dress, showing her gem.
Sugilite: black and purple star-shaped patterns on her leggings (like Amethyst) and painted on her nails.
Alexandrite: special four-pointed star-shaped cutouts on her leggings and star-shaped hair.
Sardonyx: a black star on the white part of her top.
Smoky Quartz: on their T-shirt and yo-yo.
Rainbow Quartz: four-pointed star cutout on her navel.
Rainbow Quartz 2.0: on their shirt, on the back of their jacket and on their umbrella.
Sunstone: star-shaped hair and a star on their shirt.
Obsidian (Steven Fusion): Steven's Star Shirt can be located on their second left hand, and they have a star-shaped marking surrounding Steven's gemstone.
Although Connie doesn't have a star on her outfit, she does have a star on her new sword as of Change Your Mind.
Rebecca Sugar also confirmed that the Crystal Gems somewhat represent the ways she acted with her brother Steven Sugar.[2]
Amethyst is loosely based on Rebecca Sugar's friend Valerie Ang from college.
Rebecca Sugar confirmed that each of the Crystal Gems is based on one of the stages of the human emotional development spectrum.[3][4]
Steven is codependent.
Common in most children, as children are dependent on their parents or any adult figures on practically anything and everything, as they are expected to be.
Amethyst is counter dependent; the explorer and rebel, fighting authority and ignoring the consequences of doing so.
Common in teens and young adults. People here know that they have free will; they usually distrust and challenge their superiors. This is also known as the rebellious stage.
Pearl is group-dependent; the responsible manager, legalistic to a fault.
Group-dependent people are ready on taking on responsibilities and expect others to be group-dependent as well. They tend to be obsessed with the notions of obligation and duty.
Garnet is independent; free to take on the burdens of others can be a bit reckless and is understanding of the growth that risk-taking can give as well as its limitations.
Tend to be merciful, and kind, and generous. They will help people because they want to, and they will not help people because they do not want to.
One can also argue that Rose Quartz is transcendent; kind and loving to a fault. She uses everything in her power to help those in need.
Master of empathy: Understanding in all situations and acts accordingly to the given situation. Merely acts to the best of their ability, understanding the limitations of their own understanding. However, in being emotionally mature, their actions tend to flow out in proper response to most situations, expressing sympathy, anger, and forgiveness when they should.
All the Gems' fighting styles are based on different dances: Pearl (ballet), Garnet (waacking), and Amethyst (dancehall and club dancing). This might also have something to do with how they synchronize before fusing.[5]
The rule that the Crystal Gems won't use their powers on humans was broken in "Keep Beach City Weird" when they attacked Ronaldo, but in that case, an exception was probably made since they were trying to save Steven.
The main Crystal Gems together in a photo
Each Gem has their own musical palette associated with them, and these respective instruments are used in their leitmotifs.[6][7][8]
Pearl is a piano (secondary: harp, electric piano).
Garnet is a synth bass (secondary: her synth bell).
Amethyst is eclectic drums (secondary: electric bass, her synth bell).
Rose Quartz (as remembered by others) is strings (secondary: piano, her synth bell).
Steven is a chiptune/triangle wave (secondary: Rose's palette for his Gem powers and empathy; horns for his human physical strength and courage; violin for moments with Connie).
Rose's palette can be heard in the instrumentals "Steven's Shield", "The Hill", "Overgrown Brambles", "Rose's Fountain", and "Lion's Mane".
Connie is a synth bell (secondary: piano for her battle scenes; violin for moments with Steven).
Peridot is a sine wave (secondary: her bells, her drum kit).
The Main Crystal Gems and Connie
Lapis Lazuli is a celesta (secondary: timpani, piano, acoustic guitar).
Bismuth is a reverse electric guitar.
This can be heard in "Bismuth's Forge".
In "Story for Steven", before Steven was born, the Crystal Gems were particularly asocial towards the humans of Beach City; on their half of the beach, a metal fence was up to keep humans out of that area.
Rose Quartz would be a considerable exception to this, as she visited other parts of the beach and saw Greg's concert, but became nervous when he insisted on following her.
Pearl was confused (not knowing how to make him go away) and mildly bewildered by his presence, simply referring to him as "human" or "it".
Amethyst asked him various questions.
Garnet intended to evict him from the temple as soon as she saw him, treating him as an intruder and threatening him with violence (This was put to a halt when Rose Quartz appeared).
Peridot has stated that Earth was in the Crystal System, likely where the Crystal Gems derived their name from.
Except for Steven and Connie, each of the current Crystal Gems are named after a different birthstone.
According to Bismuth, it was a ritual for the Crystal Gems to spar before the battle.
The Manifesto of the Crystal Gems was read on the Steven Universe Recap video on Cartoon Network YouTube channel.
All known Crystal Gems (except for Bismuth and Connie) have demonstrated elemental powers:
Garnet, as seen in "The Message", has Electrokinesis, she used this ability to power the battery in Greg's Van.
Ruby, as seen in "Keystone Motel", has Pyrokinesis.
Sapphire, as seen in "Keystone Motel", has Cryokinesis, shown by first freezing the entire motel room.
Pearl, as seen in "Giant Woman", has Psammokinesis, she used this ability to create sand figurines of herself, Amethyst and Opal, to show Steven how fusion works.
Pearl also has Nephelokinesis, as shown in "Sworn to the Sword" where she created a giant mass of fog out of thin air, this is also shown in "Mr. Greg" where she, during her song, uses the clouds to represent how Rose "left" Pearl for Greg.
Rose Quartz, as well as Steven, has Phytokinesis, which allows them to grow sentient flora that does what their creators say, this ability was first demonstrated in "An Indirect Kiss".
Smoky Quartz (Steven + Amethyst) has at least some form of Aerokinesis via their yo-yos. When spun at high speeds, their yo-yos can generate powerful winds. First demonstrated in "Earthlings".
Peridot, as first demonstrated in "Too Short to Ride", has Ferrokinesis, this ability allows her to levitate metallic objects.
Lapis Lazuli has Hydrokinesis (the power to control water) as her main power.
Amethyst, as seen with her whips, also has Pyrokinesis, as she uses this power as whiplash. This ability has been demonstrated in "On the Run" and "Earthlings".
Garnet is the birthstone for January, while Ruby and Sapphire are the birthstones for July and September respectively.
Lapis Lazuli is another birthstone for September.
Opal is the birthstone for October while Amethyst and Pearl are the birthstones for February and June respectively.
Alexandrite is another birthstone for June.
Peridot is the birthstone for August.
Sardonyx is another birthstone for August.
Steven's and his mother's gemstone, Pink Diamond or Diamond, is the birthstone for April.
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Posted on October 2, 2017 by Cecil Hoge
Charles The Swan
For 20 years or so I have been trying to talk to swans. They seem very intelligent and it was natural to me to try and communicate in some manner. In the process of paddling several days a week for over 40 years, you see a lot of birds on the water and swans are the largest birds you see and the least disconcerted by humans.
Now, I never thought you could actually talk to swans. I began by simply talking to swans in English. I know this does not make sense, but I felt somehow swans were very intelligent creatures and they would like me to talk to them and I thought maybe they might even understand me.
So, the first thing I would say is, “Hello, Mr. Swan,” and then because I was never sure whether I was addressing a Mrs. Swan, I would go on to add, “And hello also if you are a Mrs. Swan.”
Sometimes, I would ask how he or she was doing, “I hope all is well Mr. or Mrs. Swan. I hope you are having a good day.”
I always had the sense the swans actually understood something of what I was trying to say. As the years went by, I added to my repertoire of one-sided conversation, telling them how good they looked, talking about what a good or bad weather day it was and sometimes giving them weather report that I thought might be of interest.
“It’s going to rain today,” I would tell them, “It might look beautiful to you now, but you wait, a little later, it is going to rain.”
The swans always seemed non-plussed about this, as if they already knew the information I was providing them with. That did not stop me. I went on providing them weather reports every day and since I paddle pretty much all year around that was a lot of weather reports. Little did I know that they really appreciated my efforts to provide them with this information, even though they already knew what kind of weather was on the way.
About ten years ago, I expanded my efforts to communicate and began to talk Swanese. Now, in truth, even to this day, I do not understand Swanese, but I did notice that swans make various kinds of noises, some of which were high-pitched screeches, others of which were low-throated squawks and quacks. So that is what I tried to do. At first my Swanese was pretty darn poor. Whatever sound I made did not sound remotely like the sounds that the swans nearby made.
But I kept at it and gradually I came to make sounds that I thought were a little closer to real Swanese. At first, the swans elegantly ignored me, cruising by as if I did not exist. But as time went by I got the feeling that they were warming up to me. Occasionally, one or two of the swans would give a schreech or a squawk or a quack in response. This made me feel my Swanese was getting better. Little did I know that my Swanese was really awful, but I did not find that out until years later.
Fifteen or twenty years went by with me saying hello in English, nodding, saluting the swans, squawking and schreeching and quacking in an effort to get to know swans better. I felt that I was making progress. I even felt that some of the local swans were coming to have some real respect for me. That turned out to be off the mark.
One day something strange and wonderful and truly unbelievable happened. I was paddling by a couple of swans when I heard not one, but two voices.
“I am tired of this charade, let’s speak to the stupid creature,” said one voice. It was a male voice, very assured and refined, not loud, but plainly audible.
“Charles, Mon Dieu,” said a female voice with a French accent, “You are not supposed to talk to zee humans.”
I turned towards the sound of the two voices and I saw nothing. Nothing, that is except two swans gliding quietly nearby Stone Bridge. Stone Bridge is a washed out bridge from the 1800s, the only remnants of which are left on the Strong’s Neck side of Little Bay.
Charles and Monique by Stone Bridge
Then I saw something, one the swans opened its mouth and began speaking to me…in English. You can only imagine my astonishment.
“Human creature,” it said in a deep authoritative voice, “we appreciate your efforts to speak to us, even if they are truly pathetic. I suggest you speak English to us so we can understand each other. God knows your “Swanese” is about as bad as it could be. My name is Charles and this is my bride of many years, Monique.”
I was quite surprised when this swan referred to “Swanese”. That was a term I thought I had coined and yet somehow this swan seemed familiar with my phrase.
“Really Charles,” said the other voice. This voice was female, lilting, sexy and somewhat sardonic, “I wonder why you bother. You know from experience how pathetic humans truly are.”
“Now, wait a minute, what do you mean humans are pathetic?” I said, already trying to defend my species, feeling particularly stupid because I was talking to two swans.
Monique was withering in her sultry way.
“Mon Dieu, zee imbecile speaks.”
“Don’t be so hard on him, my dear, you were human once.”
“That was in the court of Louis Quatorze,” I almost thought I could see a coy smile from the lady swan, “now that was a human worthy of the name.”
“My dear, that is enough of that…you do not have to go into your decadent past.”
I was beginning to feel I was some kind of a fifth wheel.
“Wait just a moment…what do you think is wrong with humans.”
I had never seen a swan giggle, but I swear that was what Monique was doing. She made a wierd movement and placed the tip of one of her wings in front of her mouth (or beak, as I should say), as if she was trying to hide something and then she kind of giggled and squeaked in delight.
“What is wrong with humans…the list is soo long the tide will go out before I finish it.”
I was outraged. I had to stand up and defend my species.
“Now, wait a minute. I have been paddling by swans on this bay for almost 50 years and after trying to speak to you swans for the last 20 years, the first thing that you say to me is how pathetic humans are.”
Charles spoke up first in his steady, patient voice, “Don’t be so dismayed, we were both humans at one time and we know of your many failings. They come with the species. You cannot help it.”
“My failings, what are talking about?” I said, thinking what a strange experience this was…first to speaking English to two swans…second, being lectured like a child.
Monique was the first to respond,
“First and foremost, little man, you are screwing zee planet up 6 ways to Sunday. Look at this bay, Moron, it is full of algae and empty of almost anything living. Almost no fish, no minnows, no crabs, no clams, no oysters…what the hell do expect us to eat. We used to be able to eat gloriously here. Fortunately, if you eat the algae before it turns brown it does have some nutritional value, even if it is full of pollutants.”
“Now, Monique, do not be so hard on the creature. He doesn’t know the bay is dying?”
“Wait just a minute, all this is too much. First, you speak English, then you immediately launch into a tirade against humans.”
“First of all,” I went on, “Monique tell me why you speak with a French accent.”
I know this was not really pertinent, but I was really curious.
“Because I am a French swan you idiot and because I was once a French human. French swans and French humans are the smartest, most intelligent creatures to walk the face of the earth, you moron. Mon Dieu, zee idiot is beyond education.”
Obviously, Monique had an attitude problem. Fortunately, Charles came to my rescue.
“Do not worry yourself about Monique. She tends to be a little bit, how do say, stuck up.”
Just then another swan came splashing down just a few feet in front of us. You could tell this swan was not fully grown because its coloring was still a faded gray brown and not yet fully white.
“Don’t be alarmed, it is only our son Albert. Albert, this is that weird human who keeps trying to talk to us. I decided to make his day and talk English.”
Albert came cruising right up to me. I was pretty sure he was going to attack, but at the last moment he slowed and made small circle around me, obviously checking me out.
“He doesn’t look that stupid,” was all Albert had to say.
“For a human, that is.”
I must say this was some strange introduction to the true world of swans.
And then Albert suddenly started flapping his wings and headed off in the direction of a lone swan a few hundred feet away. Albert made a tremendous amount of noise with his wings flapping over the water. He did not actually take off. Rather, he made a beeline for the lone swan. As soon as Albert got close, the other swan started to flap wings, apparently in a desperate attempt to avoid Albert.
“Mon Dieu, will zee boy ever learn? He is after Charlotte again. Charles, you really must do something. He is going to die if he does not get some nooky. Remember, my dear, love makes zee world go round.”
Charles gave a swan sigh which seemed to say “Do I have to”.
And then Charles cranked up his wings and began flapping in the direction of Albert and Charlotte.
In parting, he said, “We will take up this conversation at a later date.” And then off he went after Albert who he almost crashed into, forcing Albert to divert his course towards the swan who was apparently called Charlotte. It was all pretty weird.
Monique turned to me.
“The boy is incorrigible. We keep telling him, give love a chance, but Albert has no patience for chance, he wants it now and he wants it bad. He is worse than Charles was when he was a young swan…oh la la. I can tell you, there is nothing worse than a horny swan when you are not in the mood. Of course, zee lady always reserves the right to change her mind.”
I would swear she gave a sly smile, as if contemplating the joys of a lady changing her mind.
“That’s what Albert is hoping for.”
Well, I was outraged. This kind of attitude would never be allowed in the human world, except maybe at some High Tech Startups.
“So, you are lecturing me, while your son is trying to impose his ways on a lady swan.”
Monique looked perturbed.
“This conversation is over” she said and then cruised to Stone Bridge where a gang of several other swans were pruning themselves and relaxing.
The gang at Stone Bridge
I could take a hint and I continued my paddle, my head reeling by all the startling revelations. Swans could speak English. Who knew? Some swans had been humans before. Who knew? I continued to paddle into the next bay, pondering all that I had heard and learned. I needed to find out more about this.
After getting back home, I thought about telling my wife and perhaps some other close friends, but what would they say? The guy has gone off the deep end, the guy has lost his marbles? Dust in the attic has dimmed his bulb? So I kept my mouth shut and just kept thinking about this truly strange episode.
A couple of days later I was out again paddling. I had completely forgotten my swan encounters, but as I was passing stone bridge, I heard a familiar voice.
“I see you are out for another paddle. Perhaps, now we can continue our conversation.”
Almost immediately another voice chimed. It was coquettish with a now familiar French accent. It almost gay and happy.
“Oh, Merdehead is here again to defend the human race. As if it could be defended.”
Monique sounded curiously upbeat. I had the feeling that in spite of her harsh language she had taken a liking to me.
I decided to go on the attack.
“Look, white feathered lady, what do you have to boast about?” I said.
Charles immediately came in on my side, “You see my dear, I told you he might prove more alert than you thought.”
I am not sure I felt fully complimented by being called alert, but it was better than being called Merdehead.
“So tell me, what is it about swans that makes you so high and mighty?”
“I have seen clouds from both sides now.” Monique said mysteriously.
The reference seemed strange, remembering the Joni Mitchell song of that name.
“I am just saying this isn’t my first rodeo, dufus dear.”
She had an endearing way of insulting someone. You almost felt like it was a privilege to be scorned by her.
I must say I was particularly confused about her conversation referencing rodeos. How would a swan know about a rodeo? Especially a French swan who grew up as a human in the court of Versailles. I didn’t think they had rodeos back then. It was all too confusing. Fortunately, Charles came to my rescue.
“Do not be mislead by my lovely lady swan. She can’t help following everything humans do, even if it has been several hundred years since she has participated. Me, I take a longer view of these things, especially since I have not been human for over 1200 years.”
Information was coming at me so fast that I had a hard time comprehending all that Charles and Monique were saying. Anyway, my curiosity was piqued, so I had to ask.
“Just how do keep up on human events?” I asked.
“The internet, of course.” Monique butted in, “You would think the moron was born 200 years ago.”
“The internet…how could you know about the internet?”
“Mon Dieu,” Monique said in a gay, cheerful voice, “I begin to wonder how stupid humans have become. Maybe, we are just talking to an aberrant specimen.”
“What is your problem, Monique? Why are you so impatient with me.”
“Perhaps, I can help explain.” Charles interrupted, “as you may have read, swans and many other birds have an internal radar system. This allows us to fly great distances…over barren land, over Arctic wastes…over wide seas without seeing land for long periods. Our internal radar allows to know where we are going.
“Not all birds are as intelligent as swans.”
“Swans are the most intelligent, most beautiful and most elegant birds in the world,” Monique put in.
“A lot of birds,” Charles continued, “are like some of your fellow human beings. Slow, fixed in their ways, unable to think about or consider different ways or new things. So most birds do not have the intelligence or understanding of swans. Swans have a very highly developed sense of radar. This not only helps us fly thousands of miles out of sight of land, it also enabled us to learn about human technological developments.
“In the 1930s, when radio transmission became widespread, swans learned how to listen in on radio frequencies. At first, this was all very confusing for us. All we heard was all this gibberish that was coming out of radios. We thought it was some kind of static caused by the atmosphere. We did notice that some of it was music and some of it was just people talking. Of course, when swans first heard all of this, it was not clear what was what. It all seemed like just a bunch of noise…some of it was musical…some of it was pleasing…and most of it was just noise.
“But because swans happened to be one of the bird species chosen for re-incarnation, some of the swans had been human and they recognized various voice patterns and, of course, they understood some of what they heard was music.
“Now humans that had been re-incarnated as swans did not at first recognize their human origins. They had been reborn as swans and that is what they thought they were. But over time, many of these swans had a strange sense of deja vu…they felt as if they had been there before. This led to a lively discussion in Swanese, as you call our language, of just what these sounds they were hearing were all about. Some swans said they could almost understand the words and the music. So that is when our great enlightenment began.”
I listened to Charles with a strong sense of disbelief. Surely, this could not be true…surely swans could not listen to radio shows…surely swans could not learn about our music and our languages. And yet, there were Charles and Monique floating not more than 6′ away from me, talking in English, telling me this incredible story.
“Well,” Charles continued, “You can imagine our surprise when certain swans began to fully understand the words and the music they heard on radios. Now a lot of this did not make sense…commercials advertising the benefits of hair tonics…Amos and Andy talking in Blackface…Guy Lombardo and his orchestra…Louis Armstrong and all that jazz…there were many things that seemed strange, but the swans that had been human began to remember their past and in some cases, they began to remember the very words they used when they were human. You can imagine the disruption all this caused, but in a way, we were beginning to understand life in a way that it had never been understood by swans.”
Now this was getting truly weird, but I was transfixed by Charles’ explanation which, as hard as it was to believe, did make sense.
“So by the time TV came along, all of these transmissions began to be understandable and we quickly found that we were capable of accessing any kind of TV program we wanted…Kukla, Fran and Ollie…Milton Berle…Captain Video… We saw it all and yes, we realized these programs were incredibly simple and crude and, of course, much of it was truly stupid, but those of us who had been humans, remembered that many stupid things happened during their human lives, so it was not so surprising. TV, it seemed, was a kind of chewing gum for the eyes…it was just something to do without much meaning.”
“By the time the 60s had rolled around, we were getting used to checking out TV a few times a day,” Monique piped in, “And Ooh La La, that Marilyn Monroe was some looker and Jackie Kennedy had some sense of style…that was a lady…but who knew those two beautiful women were both after the same man…and what a hunk he was…too bad the mafia shot him, he was my kind of President.”
Just then a seagull came crashing down on the water. The bird hit the water so hard my kayak was splashed.
“Dis da one?” The bird said in what sounded like a Brooklyn accent.
“Yes, this is the human I have chosen to speak to, Tommy” said Charles majestically. “Cecil, this is Tommy.”
I was surprised when Charles refered to me for the first time by my first name. “How did you know my name?”
Charles was very patient, if somewhat irritated, “We went through that…we can read minds…of course, we know your first name, as well as your last, as well as your Social Security number and the numbers and any expiration dates of your five separate credit cards you have in your wallet.”
“Ooh la la, I do miss zee beautiful clothes. When we first were an item, Louis used to give me the most beautiful ermines and diamonds.”
“Dear, do we have to keep reliving your human times…you know they are not going to end well.”
“Do ya got food?” The seagull asked as it began cruise around me in a circle.
Things were getting weirder. Talking swans was one thing, but a seagull with a Brooklyn accent was too much.
“Why do you talk with a Brooklyn accent?” I asked
“Whadda ya mean, I’m from Brooklyn, dodo head.” Apparently, birds do not have much respect for humans or perhaps it was just me.
“You are a seagull from Brooklyn?”
“Not even close. I am seagull from South Africa, but before that I was a human. I grew up in Brooklyn.”
“How did you get to Setauket from South Africa,” I asked.
“I flew across da sea, ya loser,” and then the seagull turned to Charles and started making screeching sounds like I had heard seagulls make when flying over a beach. Charles started squawking, chirping and quacking back in a high voice. Soon Monique was flapping her wings, clucking and squawking and quacking. I gather I must be the subject of their conversation.
“Just what are you birds talking about?” I asked.
“Well,” Charles replied in English, “we are talking about you, just as you were thinking.”
This diverted my train of thought, “What do mean, just as I was thinking?”
I forgotten that swans could read minds.
“Look Dimwit,” Monique injected in her sweet, but spiteful voice, “if we can listen to radio, watch TV and access the Internet, why don’t you believe us when we tell you we can scan you mind whenever we feel like.”
“I told you he was a moron,” Monique said cheerfully, “it’s just like having our personal court jester. C’est magnifique!”
And then she added, “Of course we can access the Internet, how else would I keep track of today’s celebs?”
“You keep track of today’s celebs?”
“Mais oui, zee dimwit does not know I like zee gossip. How you say, gossip makes zee world go round. Ooh la, la…I like zee Brad Pitt. I cannot wait to find out who he will hook up with after ditching zee Angelina.”
“Really, my dear,” interjected Charles, “must you always chitchat about those awful Hollywood people…they are truly below you.”
“But my darling they are so interesting…I just love their weaknesses.”
Charles seemed to be disgusted by the turn in the conversation and began to cruise off.
All this getting too much for me when a gang of Canada geese came in for a landing not twenty feet from where we were conversing. The Canada geese immediately formed a line and started to cruise around my kayak. There must have been twenty or more geese.
I felt like I was at a bird convention. Normally Canada geese are very shy, flying away at the slightest paddle motion as I would paddle by. And when they did fly, they always would make a giant racket, first by clucking and squawking and then flying off in cacophonous roar of flapping wings and splashing water.
But at this moment they did not show the slightest fear of me. Rather they seemed to want to confront me. The geese cruised around me in a wide, menacing circle. Monique and the seagull were inside the circle. The geese began squawking and quacking and clucking. Monique and the seagull began making different bird noises in response.
The seagull turned to me and said, “Geez, they think you are some kinda genius. A human who talks to swans. Monique, da broad, is settin’ them straight…it’s a case of swans and a seagull talkin’ to a dumbass human. You sure you’re not carryin’ any food?”
Trying to keep up with all the bird goings on, I responded, “No, I did not know I going to meet a seagull from Brooklyn.”
“I’m a seagull from South Africa, dumbass. Or I was for a while. Yeah, I did work in Brooklyn when I was a human. I worked in a shipyard.”
That piqued my curiosity.
“When did you work in that shipyard?”
“1906 to 1917…I met my maker in France during World War I. After that it was off to bird world in South Africa. I was a seagull the first few times, then I became an Albatross, crossed the great Atlantic and settled in Brooklyn again. That didn’t last long…a poacher got me, da bastad, but I had the last laugh…I came back as a seagull and moved out on an island to where all the tree huggers hang out…that way I could be pretty sure I would not get blown away again.”
And while the story of the seagull living different lives at different times was fascinating, I was more interested in his seagull story of having worked in a shipyard.
“Which shipyard did you work in?” I asked.
“Shewan Shipyards, we did the repairs for the Atlantic fleet.”
“I know, my grandfather owned it.”
“Da bastad, he was a hard-ass.”
“If his name was Edwin Shewan…he almost got me killed about 5 times. Lifting battleships is not for ninnies. It was tough work and you could get killed in them days.”
Now I was getting really interested. This was a part of my family history that I knew something about, but not much.
“Tell me more. What was the shipyard like?”
“They was 40 acres right on the harbor, just as you come in to New York Harbor. It was a choice spot right where 26th, 25th and 24th streets come down to da water. We was 2,000 guys and your grandfather Edwin and James. They was big drinkers and high rollers for them days. They both had several yachts moored out on Long Island. Your grandfather was a real boozer. You could tell da time of day by his whiskey bottle behind his big mahogany desk.”
“I still have his desk,” I put in. “It’s about all that is left from his shipyard.”
“Good for you, bozo. Anyway, your Grandpa was a gnarly old bastard, especially after a half a bottle of whiskey. But I will give him this. He was always straight with me, even if he was always giving me jobs I couldn’t finish. And they was dangerous jobs. You had to be on your toes or you was apt to lose your toes.”
“Anyway, he was straight with me. He advised me to stay on the job and said he could get me a draft deferment. I wouldn’t hear of it and off I went to France. 6 months later I was splatted into 50 pieces and I went to seagull land in South Africa. Never regretted it though. I liked being seagulls and an albatross. It’s much easier than being a stupid human. Life is simple as a bird, complicated as a human.”
With that, the seagull flew away…the conversation apparently over. This left me with Monique and about 25 Canada geese. The geese were still cruising around me in a big circle giving me the once over.
“Don’t be worried about Tommy,” Charles said sympathetically as he came gliding up to us, “he tends to be rough sort, but he tells you like it is.”
A seagull who knew my grandfather in another life. Talk about a small world! Not to mention a weird world.
“Tommy c’est magnifique,” echoed Monique.
By this time, I was on bird overload, so I said goodbye to Charles, Monique and the 25 Canada geese.
“Au Revoir, fair feathered friends,” we’re my actual words, as I paddled away.
“Au Revoir, mon Cheri.” Monique sang out gaily. Maybe Monique was going soft on me.
A week later I went down to my dock, intending to paddle. I was getting ready to put my kayak in the water when I heard this crashing, flapping, splashing sound behind me. I looked over to where the sounds came from and saw that Albert had just come in for a hard landing and was cruising right up to my dock.
“Can we talk?” which is a pretty strange statement coming from a young swan. I noticed that Albert’s coloring had become a little more white since I had seen him. I surmised he was coming into his full swan hood – if that is the correct phrase.
“What do want to talk about?” I asked.
“I am having girl problems. I really like Margaret and then there is Sally and Susan. I really like all of them, but I can’t make up mind. And worse than that, none of them want to let me have my way with them.”
I pondered Albert’s problems.
“First of all, Albert, I thought swans were monogamous. How come you going after 3 different lady swans?”
“Hey, I am a young guy swan and mother has always said that I should not make up mind too soon. Besides, young male swans play the field just like humans. It’s true later on swans become monogamous, but that does not mean we don’t get to play around when we are young.”
“OK, I understand that, but maybe going after 3 girl swans at the same time is not very diplomatic. Maybe, you should concentrate on one of the three. I don’t think girls like to think they are just one of many.”
Albert thought this over as he cruised back and forth next to my dock.
“The trouble is none of them are giving out.”
I thought this over for a while.
“Well, I do not know how swans feel about this, but in the human world, ladies like you to take some time. They don’t like to be rushed. And they don’t like thinking it’s just about sex. They like to think there is a lot more to the relationship. So in the human world, we have to establish a relationship, we have to do nice little things, like bring little gifts or flowers, go for walks on the beach, see a movie. Girls like to think you are not just interested in there bodies. Later, when you’ve got their trust and interest, the tables might turn and they might become very interested in sex, but with humans it often takes time.
“I don’t know what you have to do with your lady swan friends, maybe you need to cruise around with them, talk with them and try to do things they are interested in.”
All of this seemed very foreign to Albert and I could almost see a frown coming over his swan face. Then something seemed to click, as if the information had just been down-loaded. Almost immediately, he nodded his head, said thanks and flew off, taking about 75 feet of frantically flapping his wings and splashing water until he finally got airborne.
I did not think much of my encounter with Albert. Several days later I was out paddling when Charles and Monique cruised up to me. I was just passing the outer Setauket Bay, paddling along the scenic shore. It was quite beautiful there and almost looks as it must have before Europeans came to this country. Most of the houses were hidden by summer growth of trees and vegetation and the beach had a lonely, pristine appearance. It was only the muddy brown appearance of the water that reminded you that the clarity of the water was indeed different.
“Mon Cheri, I know I have often called you a dimwit and that is fair because after all you are human and all humans are dimwits, but I want to thank you for talking to Albert. He is a changed swan, much more assured and the lady swans are noticing. Ooh la la, the Sally swan is all over him now…they are a real item. All that boy needed was a little nooky.”
It was a strange rambling conversation, especially coming from a lady swan, but I took it as a compliment.
“I am glad if I was able to be of assistance.” I said, feeling closer to Monique even if I was a little surprised by her brash slang.
Almost immediately 7 terns came swooping down from nowhere and began to hover in front of me.
“Mon Dieu, zee 7 Female Furies are here, ooh la la.” Monique said.
“They always want to have their say, my dear,” put in Charles.
I did not know what she and Charles were talking about until I put 2 and 2 together, or perhaps, I should say until I put 7 and 7 together. I saw the 7 terns who were hovering in front of me. Now, my normal name for terns is helicopter birds because they like to hover about 15 or 20 feet above the water flapping their wings frantically and then dive down and snag an unsuspecting minnow. It was only after realizing that there were 7 terns flapping their wings directly in front of me, hovering in the air not thirty feet away, that they must be the 7 Female Furies.
The 7 female furies appeared.
“Honey do!” Said one with the minnow in her mouth.
“Whatever,” said another.
“Melancholy is the woman,” said a third.
“Love is the answer,” said a fourth.
“Stand by your male,” said a fifth.
“Diamonds are a girl’s best friend,” said a sixth.
“Never sign a prenup,” said the seventh.
And then as quickly as they came and hovered, they ascended up a few hundred feet and flew away.
“What was that?” I asked Charles.
“Monique just told you, they were the 7 Female Furies.”
“What bird ever signed a prenup or got a diamond?” I asked.
“You foolish boy, birds are not so different than zee humans. I love zee pearls and when I was with Louis Quatorze I loved zee rubies and zee ermines. And besides a lot of those birds were ladies in an earlier life…some were sexy ladies too.”
It did not make sense to me. It was a topsy, turvy world that I had stumbled upon. I could not understand the meaning of talking swans and hovering terns – aka, the 7 Female Furies.
“All this is too much for me,” I said to Charles and Monique and I paddled off to ponder the meaning of it all.
When I got home, I thought about all that I had heard and learned from Charles and Monique. I really wanted to tell someone and ask them what they thought, but every time I came close to telling the truth to my wife or a good friend or my brother, I backed off because I knew they would think that I lost my mind. So I kept quiet and I thought about all the I had and seen. What did it all mean? Talking swans, a seagull from Brooklyn via South Africa, hovering terns giving advice against signing prenups. What did it all mean?
KongMing comes to say hello.
Two days later something even stranger occurred. I went down to go for a paddle when I heard this voice.
“The human has always been a failure. In my life I tried to bring together the Han, but despite many battles, despite the victory at Red Cliffs, despite my magic, despite the 8 fold maneuver, despite winning many a battle, despite killing hundreds of thousands by fire, I was not able to unite the empire. Such was my fate that my body gave out before my task could be accomplished.”
Now here was the strange part. I heard these words in my head, but I could not understand from where they came. I looked around and the only thing I saw was a great white heron in a tree opposite my dock.
“Yes, I am KongMing and I am a great white heron.”
“But you are not moving your beak,” I wanted to say mouth, but beak seemed more technically correct.
“I have no need to move my beak, human. I can communicate by thought.”
These were strange words, but only by hearing them in your head and realizing that they did not exist outside of your head was far stranger. It seemed that the bird was right, he could communicate simply by implanting thoughts in my brain, I heard it loud and clear. But why was he talking to me?
“Because Charles told me he had begun conversation with you, human.”
Again, I made the strange realization that this bird was answering a thought of mine that I had not spoken. This was scary.
“You need not fear, human, I am but a bird and I will pass away just like you.”
And then without further adieu, the bird continued to speak in my head.
“Life is but a brief period of transition from one state to another. Death is what we all do. We come, we go. The greatest weapon is fire. The greatest gift wisdom. The greatest strength understanding. The greatest strategy deception.”
That was all the bird said and then he flew off. As he flew away he issued a strange squawk and released a white stream of defecation. What did that mean?
A few days later I was paddling by Stone Bridge and saw Charles, Monique and several other swans. In truth, I was not able to recognize Charles and Monique individually. All swans look alike to me. But when Charles spoke up, I recognized him immediately.
“Human, we hope you are enjoying your paddle. We prefer to see humans paddling. We hate to see humans motor around in their great speedboats, towing their young behind them.”
“That’s knee-boarding,” I said.
“Whatever it is, it’s loud and we don’t like it. And we especially do not like JetSkis. Why must you burn fossil fuels to churn up water and make noise?”
“Humans have to have their fun. Besides, I’m a paddler.”
“We would prefer it if all humans would just paddle.”
I decided to paddle on, figuring that I had defended the Mastercrafts folks as much as I could and had not implemented myself in further blame.
A few days later and I saw Charles, Monique and Albert all gliding along quietly.
“Hello Charles, hello Monique, hello Albert…how’s the love life going?”
I heard a huff from Charles, a giggle from Monique and saw Albert sneak a smirk.
“Pretty well, actually,” Albert.
“Son, you know what I have told you about boasting…we do not approve it in this family.”
I could tell by the earnestness and firmness in Charles voice that he was not pleased by his son’s enthusiasm.
“No bluster in this family,” Monique said, “Not like your president.”
This immediately led to another line of thought.
“What do you mean not like my president?” I asked.
“Well, your president does have a tendency to boast.” Charles added, “in my day, I never believed in bluster. Maybe, firm words followed by firm action, but never bluster followed by more bluster.”
“Charles, call a spade a spade, his president is an asshole.” Monique added. I wish you could have been there to hear this lady swan pronounce the word asshole. She deliberately extended the vulgar word. It sounded more like ace-hoole.
“My president is an asshole?” I repeated in disbelief.
“I kind of like him,” said Albert. “He says what he means, he uses Twitter and he likes to go after the ladies…he can’t be all bad.”
I can only say that I felt like a distant traveler who had fallen into a strange new world.
“So what do you think of your president?” Charles asked me.
I was on the spot and felt I had to answer.
“Well, I am a little bit afraid. He makes a lot of promises, but I do not see how he can keep them all. And I worry sometimes that his talk might get us into a war.”
“You see, my dear, the human sometimes thinks.”
Monique turned her head and beak toward me. I thought I detected a sly smile.
“Yes, it may be possible there is something in that head. But take it from me, your president is zee ace-hoole!”
“I still like him,” said Albert.
“We shall see…his term has not run out.” said Charles.
I was getting uncomfortable by this turn to politics.
“Let’s talk about this later,” I said.
Just before I was about to renew my paddling, 7 Crows came flying in for a landing on the lone tree on Stone Bridge. It was a strange sight.
The 7 male furies gathering on Stone Bridge.
“Cecil, I think the 7 Male Furies have something to say to you,” said Charles.
“Me first,” said the first crow.
“The boy with the biggest toys wins,” said the second crow.
“God is great,” said the third.
“Good fences make good neighbors,” said the fourth.
“My country right or wrong,” said the fifth.
“Better right than compromise,” said the sixth.
“Better to die rich and lose your soul,” said the 7th.
And just as suddenly as they came, the seven crows flew off, creating seven shadows on the water below before flapping away.
“Pay them no mind,” said Monique, “That’s the way they roll.”
It was all getting too weird for me. I paddled off, trying to comprehend as I glided by familiar waters and familiar scenery. The stranger these events got and the more I heard from Charles, Monique and other birds, the more it seemed impossible to relate my experiences to my wife or other friends.
In talking to Charles and Monique I found that I had many questions to ask. And perhaps, quite understandably, it seemed that Charles and Monique also had many questions to ask me. This led to a series of long conversations over the next months. Almost every time I would go for a paddle, about four or five times a week, I would run into Charles and Monique, usually in the back bay or by Stone Bridge or out in Setauket Bay on my way to Port Jefferson Harbor.
It seemed that Charles was most interested to know what I thought about the present period of time and politics. Monique, on the other hand, seemed more fixated on what I thought of present fashions and customs.
In truth, we talked of many things, current events, past history, the state of the environment, the health of the waterways. For me, I had a lot of questions on how it was that swans seemed to have lived previous lives. I explained that humans generally do not remember or think they had previous lives.
Charles was quite adamant of the subject.
“Of course, humans have previous lives,” said Charles, “they just don’t remember them. And if they get to live other lives as animals or birds, they remember it, but they cannot tell about it. We do not know why, but humans seem to be the only creatures that do not remember their previous lives…and yet they are they are able to talk to words each other. Birds and animals have always been able to talk to one another, but they never could speak words. Some birds, because of their internal radar, learned English and other languages, first from Radio and TV, then from the Internet…it was that knowledge that allows us to speak and be aware of humans and understand what they were up to. We were surprised and then concerned.”
That made me curious, “What were you concerned about?”
“Mon Dieu,” interjected Monique, “just when you think zee dimwit is beginning to understand something, he says something so stupid, you almost want to give up on zee human.”
“Well, what Monique is trying to say, we see you covering the earth, crowding out all other animals and birds, we see you dominating the land and the waterways and we see you despoiling it all. Frankly, that is why we choose to remain birds…we doubt the future of humans…at best you will make life intolerable for yourselves and all other living creatures, at worst you will destroy all life.”
“Zee humans do not have the ability to destroy all life, they can only destroy human life.”
You can gather from these comments that Charles and Monique were not optimistic about us humans.
“What do you expect?” I asked, “we are the dominant species.”
“Yes, for now, but not for long,” Charles answered, “there are many things we liked about being human. Being able to build things, being able to use tools, being able to talk to one another, writing poetry, novels, making films, these can be great achievements.”
“Don’t get me on the subject of films,” Monique injected, “only a few films are any good…of course, some French films…that is because French people are zee best humans, a few Indian and Chinese films and some old American and English films are good. The rest is zee crap. Especially the stuff from zee Hollywood. Mon Dieu, such pretty people making such crap…I don’t know why they do it.”
“Well, my dear, there some good films even today, but you are right. Mostly, it is fake explosions, stupid laughter and regurgitated boy meets girl stories. Yes, mostly, it just bad, not worth taking the time to see.”
Time and again I would cite films and novels that I thought worthy. Most of the time, Charles and Monique were not impressed, saying it had all been done several hundred years previously. How could a film have been done better several hundred years ago. I would ask. And they would counter, of course, films were not done better, but the plots for films had all been done several hundred years ago and they have been used and reused in today’s films.
The thing that seemed strange about what Charles and Monique were concerned about, were not the things I or most humans I knew were concerned about. Monique could, for example, go on for hours about the quality of the water in the bays.
“You’ve screwed it up,” she would say, “the bottom of the bays are all green with algae. The sand worms cannot do their good work because their sun is blocked by the algae, the waters are dark and murky and polluted. The shellfish are gone or dying. You have poisoned all the bays.”
“How did I poison the bays,” I would ask.
And then Monique would really let me have it.
“You wash your clothes with soap and detergent. Where do think that water goes? You build your houses on every piece of land surrounding the bays, you defecate and pee incredible amounts and all that waste goes into your so-called sewers which leak and seep into the bays. You fertilize farms and lawns and gardens with an incredible array of harmful chemicals. You spray insecticides on everything. All those chemicals run off into the bays. You drive cars that belch carbon monoxide that goes into the air before coming down into the bays as poisonous gas particles. You fly airplanes above that give off burn airplane fuel and rain down on us as chemical particles…there is no end to the damage and harm you cause. The very bays you paddle on are dead and diseased. They may look beautiful and healthy to you, but they are not. Yes, there are some birds and animals that survive that, but most life is being harmed by your actions.”
“My lady is quite correct on this issue…she may remember rubies and ermines and gay parties when she was human, but as a swan she knows the truth. And the truth is that humans are failing. When we were humans we had some very nice things, but that when the world was younger and there were a lot less people…but we do not want to go back to being humans…there is no future in it.”
“What do you mean? You said yourself that humans are the most successful animal species ever. We dominate the world. How can there be no future?”
“It is very simple,” continued Charles, “humans are taking up more and more space, over populating and over polluting the earth. Something must give…and when it does, life for humans will get worse. That is why Monique and I have no intentions of becoming human again. We do not want the stress.”
I was truly perplexed by Charles saying swans did not want the stress. I tried to counter Charles’s and Monique’s arguments…we live in the greatest period of history, we are surrounded by all sorts of marvels…central heating, central air, running hot and cold water, radio, TV, Internet, airplanes to fly on, cars to drive in, movies to see, restaurants, bars, theaters…truly humans have it all. But here were 2 nay-saying swans right in front of me disputing all that I had read and had been taught. I did not know to say.
“This is all too strange for me.”
Now I first met Charles and Monique and Albert in the spring. As time went on Albert’s feathers became pure white and he reached full male swan-hood. As far I could tell, Albert was still playing the field. The only way frankly I could tell Albert was playing around was that I noticed that some of the swans swimming along were different sizes…some small, some medium, some almost as large as Albert. And of course, I was not really able to tell the sex of the swans accompanying Albert, but often the ladies would speak to me directly.
They had heard that I had given Albert some advice…apparently Albert had told his lady friends of my advice and, all in all, I gather they appreciated me talking over Albert’s lady issues. One or two of these ladies were kind enough to say to me that they saw a real change in Albert. He was more patient, not so eager to attack and conquer, more likely to hang back and wait for the right moment. So, Albert and his ladies seemed very happy.
I gather young male swans are permitted a period of time to play the field and make up their mind. How long Albert got to play the field, I never did find out, because, as I am about to relate, my conversation with swans ended in October. It had begun in April and by October it came to a sudden and complete halt.
But before the end of My Swans Conversations, some other strange things happened. I met Bess the Hummingbird. She turned out to be a real romantic. She told me in a former life she had been a match-maker in the Court of Tsar Peter, so she was naturally inclined toward love and romance. Bess was an incredibly tiny bird. Charles introduced me one day when I happened to be near the cove in Setauket Bay that leads out into Port Jefferson Bay. We were near the shore, when I heard Charles say, “Hello, Bess.”
“Hi Sweetie,” Monique said almost simultaneously. And I saw this little blur of a bird hover in front of Charles and then dart over to hover in front of Monique. Monique and Bess seemed to knock beaks together. It was strange…this large lady swan with this tiny bird hovering a few inches from Monique’s beak. I saw the little bird dip her tiny, needlelike beak and Monique raise her much larger, blunter beak. For a brief moment the little beak touched ever so lightly the big beak…that was their hello.
And Bess flew over me and that was quite disconcerting. You do not know how scary a 2″ bird can be until it is flapping its wings six inches from your nose. Happily, Bess did not choose to touch my nose with her beak.
For a tiny bird, she had a booming voice.
“What be this,” she asked.
“This be a human,” I answered.
I thought I was being pretty clever and it must have been the case because immediately the little 2″ bird giggled. I would like to note while Bess’s body was only 2″, her wingspan was a solid 4″, so she was more intimidating than you might think. And if you are still thinking there is nothing scary about 2″ bird with a 4″ wingspan, imagine those wings are flapping a mile a second and think of it as a giant bumblebee 6″ from your nose. I guarantee you would be scared.
It turned out that there was really nothing to be scared about. Bess turned out to be all mush. She was love and lace, peppering me with constant questions about me and my wife, asking all sorts of personal questions I will not repeat, telling me I immediately needed go out and buy my wife flowers every day. This little bird was convinced that all we need is love, sweet love and she never wasted a minute not recommending it.
I also got to meet Luigi and Isadora, two Kingfishers that hung out in my little cove where my dock is. So every time I either put in my kayak or took out my kayak they would zoom around squeaking all sorts of derogatory comments.
“Here comes the swan talker,” Luigi would say.
“Hey swan talker, why don’t you catch some minnows for us.”
Luigi and Isadora were not much interested in conversation. Food was their true love…anything that was live…minnows, tiny crabs, flies, beetles, grasshoppers…if it moved they munched it. I tried to interest them in some bread.
“We don’t want your bread, man.” said Luigi
“Bread don’t move…what’s the sense of that?” asked Isadora.
I tried to ply those Kingfishers with bread, bits of beacon, some artichoke hearts…everything was a failure, until I put some bread in my minnow trap. That attracted a bunch of minnows. When I dumped the wire basket filled with minnows, Luigi and Isadora swooped instantly down and wiped those minnows out before the minnows had a chance to expire from lack of air. There was nothing left but some minnow eyes and fin parts drying on the dock. The dock was speckled with blood and minnow bits in less than 30 seconds.
All summer long I would paddle out and have discussions and conversations with Charles and Monique. As time went on, I really do think that Monique took a shine to me. She began to greet me with “Mon Cheri,” each time we met. It was nice to get so close and friendly with the local sea birds. I was not to know how brief and how rare my conversations would be.
One day I was paddling in the back part of Setauket Bay and I came upon a big rock. Just then KongMing landed on the rock.
KongMing gives his sermon on a rock
“Still here human,” I heard in my head, “still talking with Charles and family I understand…that is not long to last…you shall soon learn.”
And then KongMing began a strange monologue.
“All things are in flux.
All life is the same.
Nothing will remain.
Nothing will disappear.
The Empire, long united, will divide.
The Empire, long divided, will unite.
Thus it has always been.”
And then KongMing the Great White Heron flew off.
A few days later Charles and Monique glided into my little cove while I was pulling out my kayak.
“We have something to tell you,” said Charles, “we had a meeting – a swan convention. It has been decided that we can no longer talk to you. The Great Swan Council has determined that it is unnatural for swans to talk English to you. I knew it was a breach of protocol, I just did not know how many swan feathers it would ruffle. The decision is immutable…we must never speak after today. We are sorry. We have come to like you, but from this day forth, we can never speak.”
“Mon Cheri Dimwit, I too am sorry for this. I enjoyed our conversations. I most appreciate your little talk with Albert. He really appreciated your words. It is strange that the human words helped a swan to change. Maybe, there is more hope for your species. Ces’t la Vie. Au Revoir.”
With that Charles and Monique turned and glided their way out of my little cove.
“Wait a minute,” I called out as they glided away, “you never told me who Charles was in his earlier life.”
“That’s easy Mon Cheri, what starts with Charles and rhymes with Champagne.”
With that, Charles and Monique glided elegantly and silently out of my little cove, leaving a little trail of disturbed water behind them where they had paddled.
Author’s Note: It was some time after the strange events described above that I decided to to set down the experiences above in a blog story. This seemed the best way to tell the story. Reading it now, it seems even more unbelievable. I cannot help that. I can only say that I have tried, as best I can, to describe my conversations with swans and other birds.
PostScript: Shortly after publishing this blog story I received a strange e-mail from KongMing. It read:
Human!
I have had chance to review your blog story which does tell things that actually transpired. I was little disappointed with your photography and thought that I should send you a better rendering of myself. This was done by the artist James Audubon some time ago. It shows me in the full maturity of my third life as a Great White Heron.
While the rendering much better captures my essence, I cannot say it was painless. That was due to the fact that the artist, James Audubon, who was a great artist, decided it was easier to paint me after he had shot me. This caused me physical pain and loss of face. A great general and premier should not get shot in life. I certainly would have preferred if Mr. Audubon had been a great photographer rather than a great hunter, but such is my fate that the artist worked before the advent of really excellent hi resolution cameras. I had to wait until my sixth life as a Great White Heron to see the portrait below – when I happened to find it on the Internet.
Sincerely, KongMing, now in my seventh life as a Great White Heron
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Bows and Arrows - Working People: A History of Labour in BC - Labour History Project, Episode 2 Lesson Materials 1
Labour History Project - 4 years ago
Lesson activities to accompany the vignette "Bows…
Lesson activities to accompany the vignette "Bows and Arrows” from the acclaimed Knowledge Network series; Working People: A History of Labour in British Columbia produced by Landrock Entertainment. The vignette explores the role of Aboriginal workers in the early years of the Port of Vancouver and the struggle for racial equality in the labour movement. The life of Bill Nahanee and the early years of the IWW (Industrial Workers of the World) are also featured in this lesson. This is a unit created by the Labour History Project, a group of retired and current British Columbia teachers collaborating to develop a series of lesson plans, activities, and workshops focused on labour studies and labour history. See: http://www.labourheritagecentre.ca/education/lesson-plans/
Wobblies
The materials address aspects of the key learning standards of the current social studies 10 curriculum. Critical thinking skills are applied throughout as well as research and writing skills as described in the “skills and processes of social studies”. Aspects of “Identity, Society and Culture” are addressed in the materials including ethnicity and daily life as well the interactions of Aboriginal peoples in early Canada.
15 minutes and up to 90 minutes
Files: Bows and Arrows - Working People: A History of Labour in BC - Labour History Project, Episode 2 Lesson Materials 1
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The Labour Movement in British Columbia 1914-2013
Wayne Axford - 5 years ago
The Labour Movement in British Columbia 1840-1914 and 1914-2013 can be used as background material for the Working People: A History of Labour in BC vignettes series hosted on the Knowledge Network. The articles are designed to be used individually in the Social Studies 10 and Social Studies 11 course. Teachers can supplement the reading activity with selected lessons from the Working People: A History of Labour in BC lessons that will be posted here. Additionally, the video series The Edge of the World: B.C.'s Early Years has a number of segments that compliment the reading for the 1840-1914 time period.
https://www.knowledge.ca/program/working-people-history-labour-british-columbia
https://www.knowledge.ca/program/edge-world-bcs-early-years
The materials address aspects of the key learning standards of the current social studies 10 and 11 curriculums. For Social Studies 10, critical thinking skills are applied throughout as well as research and writing skills as described in the “skills and processes of social studies”. Aspects of “Identity, Society and Culture” are addressed in the materials including gender roles, ethnicity and daily life as well the interactions of Aboriginal peoples in early Canada. Elements of the “Economy and Technology” learning outcomes are discussed in the examination of resource development and technological innovations. Additionally, aspects of the environmental impact and attitudes towards resource extraction are developed as they relate to the “Environment” learning outcome of the IRP. Regarding Social Studies 11, the areas of the “skills and processes of social studies” apply throughout as well as aspects of how Canadians can affect change at the federal and provincial levels of government. In the later examples of the reading the impact of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms are reflected in the work. The role of workers in both World War I and II and aspects of the “Autonomy and International Involvement” aspect of the IRP . The material can also be affectively applied to the “Society and Culture” of the curriculum addressing the development and impact of social policies and programs, the role of the labour movement in Canada and specifically the role of women in social, political and economic change in Canada.
4 hours +
Files: The Labour Movement in British Columbia 1914-2013
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Voices into Action
VoicesintoAction - one year ago
Voices into Action is an online, bilingual, ERAC …
Voices into Action is an online, bilingual, ERAC approved curriculum-based educational resource providing students with information on issues regarding human rights, prejudice, and hatred. Designed by curriculum experts, this program utilizes a wide variety of media (short documentary style films and compelling visuals) to present information on a history of human suffering, stemming from social injustice that is still a growing problem today. While meeting curriculum requirements, you can help students become better people, and make your classroom a better place for learning. Our media resources, along with teacher-led dialogue, give students many perspectives to consider, with opportunities for critical thinking and creative response. By understanding the history of human rights issues in Canada and around the world, they will also gain insight into current issues that occur in their world and their classrooms.
Residential School System
lgbtqt
black slavery in Canada
Japanese Internment Camps
boat people
http://voicesintoaction.ca/Home
http://voicesintoaction.ca/Home?_lang=fr
Social Justice, grade 12; Social Sciences, grade 12; Social Studies, grades 11, 12; History, grades 11, 12; Visual Arts, grades 11, 12; Drama, grades 11, 12; World Religion, grade 11; Challenge and Change in Society, grade 12; Philosophy, grades 11, 12; Aboriginal (First Nations) Studies, grades 9, 10, 11, 12; English Language Arts, grades 9, 10, 11, 12; Aboriginal / First Nations Languages, grades 10, 11, 12; Psychology, grade 12; Civics and Citizenship, grade 10;; Equity, grades 11, 12; Media (Communication) Studies, grades, 11, 12; Arts, grades 11, 12; Politics (Political Science), grades 11, 12, college, University, Teacher education
60 per lesson with over 200 lessons/activities
Classroom-based printing instruction 1
Democracy 1
Design Challenges 1
Dignity and Worth 1
Elders 1
Equity and Equality 1
Ethel Johns 1
First Nations Perspectives 1
First World War 1
Frank Rogers 1
Fraser River Canners’ Association 1
Global warming 1
Gouvernement du Canada 1
Government of Canada 1
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Hallmark Has Something To Worry About
Once, while I was unemployed and bored, I made a list of everyone I cared about, bought Christmas cards, and sat there and personally addressed between 40-50 cards to people, including personal messages, for what must have been hours.
The effort paid off, almost everyone I sent a card to thanked me personally for the card, and eventually one of the people I sent a card gave me a job. What also happened is that my parents thought that for some reason I was just really into sending greeting cards, so they kept buying me blank cards.
“Alexia just loves sending cards,” they would explain to anyone who wondered why I was unwrapping like seven packs of ‘Thank You’ cards at Thanksgiving.
So now I have a bunch of blank cards — like hundreds — because I am (yes, still) employed and have no time. At least no time to spend in the world of handwritten tidings, especially when whatever I would be sending is probably just a signature over some canned message and doesn’t truly express my true heartfelt Christmas wishes or whatever.
Which is why I was so excited about Postagram, which allows you to send analog versions of your Instagrams to friends. Or Flipboard, or Editions, which makes it seem like you’re looking at a real magazine when what it really is that you’re looking at is, mostly, blog fodder.
I was excited when I found an art project that purportedly turned your email into snail mail for free and decidedly less excited when the service failed to work (the Father’s Day letter I painstakingly created never got sent, sorry Dad).
In the vein of this digital meets real world analogy, Apple announced its Card app today, which lets users create honest to goodness physical cards, choosing from 21 designs to fit the six discrete occasions of card giving. The cards, which include postage and an iOS push notification whenever they arrive, cost a pricey $2.99 in the U.S. and $4.99 when sent from or to anywhere else.
Ping aside, Steve Jobs has made few mistakes. Those who might bring up the earlier failure of iCards in 2008 may fail to notice that the newest iteration of Cards displays all classic Apple — eh hem — hallmarks of attention to design detail; the stamp and stamp cancellation is in-house Apple art and the cards themselves are 4X6 cotton, with the custom ink letterpressed in.
The global greetings card market is estimated to hit $31 billion by 2012, and is formidable by anyone’s standards. When I did some Twitter market research on whether industry leader Hallmark had anything to worry about with the introduction of Cards I got a mixed response, “Short Answer: Yes,” replied Stephen Hendrick. “The Hallmark near our place is already closing down,” said Werner Souza.
But of course it’s more complex than that. As True Ventures‘ Adam D’Augelli brings up, “[It’s a] different market. My mom will still continue to buy cards from Hallmark. I will start to send cards for the first time.”
“I think the majority of iCard users will be new users who never sent cards in the mail before because it was a bother,” explained Twitter user Michel Goulart. User @Stylenik said, “I would use Apple cards specifically for my parents. It’s super important for my mom to get a ‘real’ card but I CANNOT remember to send!” “A big part of the effort is in actually sending the card on time. Who cares who made it?,” said Twitter user Jeremy Boyd.
Cards found in a Supermarket aisle are like crack for Moms and Dads who come from a generation where store-bought cards were imbued with a kind of significance. For those of us that would derive the same kind of fuzzy feeling from a tweet or in a Facebook message, not so much.
True, you might be able to fool people who don’t know better into thinking you went to, like, a store with the Cards app. But at this point what’s the difference? I mean the Apple cards are paper too.
So I’m giving Hallmark one more generation (whatever comes past the Millennials) before it has to start worrying. Because at that point people will probably be happy to receive any card at all.
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Ninja Van raises $30M to build a regional logistics network in Southeast Asia
Jon Russell @jonrussell / 4 years
An e-commerce revolution is imminent in Southeast Asia after Alibaba’s investment in Lazada, but who is going to power the unsexy, unappreciated but ultimately essential service of delivery?
Right now, the region’s logistics is fairly scattered with the top firms differing from country to country and that’s where a startup called Ninja Van hopes to make a difference. The Singapore-based company today announced $30 million Series B round aimed at building it into the go-to partner for anyone selling online in Southeast Asia.
No regional partner
Two-year-old Ninja Van is essentially a plug-and-play logistics partner that gives e-commerce companies reach to customers across Southeast Asia. That might sound simplistic — the company does say it is “powered by proprietary cloud-based technology” — but the idea is to make the challenging issue of logistics partnerships in Southeast Asia simple.
While the region is attractive for its cumulative population of over 550 million people and an emerging middle class that is already mobile internet savvy, the day-to-day process of managing a business in Southeast Asia’s six biggest countries is like running, well, six different businesses. Logistics is an essential component of e-commerce — the final loop with customers — so picking the right partner in six markets requires six different research efforts, six different partnership decisions and six relationships to manage.
“There are no last mile companies that are present across the region,” Ninja Van CEO Chang Wen Lai told TechCrunch in an interview. “The likes of SingPost, Malaysia Post and [Thailand’s top logistics firm] Kerry are only present in their own countries. So when [e-commerce] giants want a single logistics player that can provide a seamless experience across the region, there is nobody to turn to.
To fill this gap, this Series B round — led by the Abraaj Group with existing investor Monk’s Hill Ventures and new backers B Capital Group and YJ Capital (Yahoo Japan) — will fuel an expansion to cover Southeast Asia’s core markets. (Ninja Van raised a $2.5 million Series A round last year.)
The company is presently in four countries — Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia and Vietnam — and it intends to add Thailand and the Philippines to that list before August. Rather than simply being in countries, the Ninja Van CEO said he wants to spread its logistics roots beyond the biggest cities to tap into tier-two and -three locations.
“We are making a concerted effort across the region, and not just in tier-one cities,” the 28-year-old added. “It makes a big difference.”
Helping E-commerce Grow
In addition to geographical expansion plans, the money will also go towards offering more specialized services.
As we pointed out last week, Lazada’s landmark Alibaba investment was somewhat forced since the company ran out of money. Why did that happen? There are many factors, of course, but overly aggressive predictions and slower-than-expected market growth were two major factors. Lai believes that Ninja Van can help here.
“The [e-commerce market in Southeast Asia] is facing a lot of roadblocks for expansion. Our value-added services — like cash-on-demand, services in out-of-reach-places, and economically-priced deliveries — can come together to help e-commerce grow,” he explained.
Ninja Van CEO Chang Wen Lai
Challenges aside, Alibaba’s entry — which consisted of $500 million in secondary share acquisition and a $500 million invest in Lazada — is expected to be a precursor to many other big names stepping into Southeast Asia.
“It’s the next important growth market after India,” Lai remarked. “A lot of investors and global companies are looking at this part of the world now and figuring out if it makes sense to enter.”
Tying up with the Dubai-based Abraaj Group, which manages $9.5 billion in investments Africa, Asia, Latin America and the Middle East and has international business contacts, will help open doors, he believes.
Crowdsourcing deliveries
Not that Ninja Van immediately needs their custom. It claims to have 3,000 customers already — including Rocket Internet’s Lazada and Zalora — with around 15,000 deliveries per day. In some large cities, the company is already profitable, Lai added.
Like established logistics firms, it charges businesses per package but its approach to fleets is quite unique. It owns and runs a primary fleet in each city, which is augmented by a reserve fleet that consists of crowdsourced recruits (like taxi drivers, or the general public) and, interestingly, other startups, too.
“We give [startups] our fleet management system [to help them manage their own delivery people better] and in exchange they provide a reserve fleet. It gives us very elastic capacity,” Lai explained.
That’s particularly useful in peak times — like the Christmas period — since it allows Ninja Van to pull in more delivery staff without having to expand its capacity permanently and watch the additional workers sit idle when not required. Typically, such temporary workers might account for 20 to 50 percent of deliveries during a peak period.
Startups are compensated for providing their ‘spare’ workers and, while Lai admits that the rate paid per delivery is perhaps lower than established competitors, he said that Ninja Van’s technology enables its crowdsourced workers to actually earn more by delivering more packages for their time. At the same time, he claimed, the company can match the delivery rates of its competitors and still be unit profitable — the difference for customers, he said, is that the company offers a more efficient and transparent service.
With just three percent of commerce happening online in Southeast Asia, it’s very much a waiting game for Ninja Van and others in online commerce needing scale. But the signs are certainly promising for the long-term.
“We aim to be the logistics fabric across the region, not necessary number one in, say, Jakarta,” Lai said.
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Marsha Blackburn: ‘People Not Believing Evening News Is A Really Good Thing,’ Credits The Tennessee Star For Being ‘Reliable’
June 24, 2017 June 24, 2017 Laura Baigert
WOODBURY, Tennessee — U.S. Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn (R-TN-7), speaking to a group of 125 at the Cannon County Reagan Day Dinner held at the Rustic Elegance Event Center in Woodbury Friday evening, said that the American people don’t believe what they hear on the evening news, and that’s “a really good thing.”
Blackburn was introduced by one-time fellow Tennessee House colleague, gubernatorial candidate and State Senator for the district Mae Beavers (R-Mt. Juliet), who later spoke about her campaign platform, as did fellow candidate and Franklin businessman Bill Lee. Representatives Mark Pody (R-Lebanon) and Judd Matheny (R-Tullahoma), also gave brief remarks at the event.
Referencing a survey of 3,000 people, Blackburn said 70 percent said “no” to the question of whether they believe what they hear from the evening news. She blamed that on the fact that they are simply not reliable, in contrast to a reliable news outlet “like The Tennessee Star.”
After pointing out that if the evening news is not believable, the next question is who do they believe.
Blackburn gave a message of optimism in pointing out that the answer is “Y-O-U.”
“They believe their well-informed friends and neighbors. People they trust and know. Not Fox, CBS, ABC or CNN,” said Blackburn.
Asking a question with an obvious answer, “How many of you get emails asking have you heard about this? Is this true?” Blackburn had a positive take on that, saying, “People want to verify. For us, this is a great opportunity, an open door, a buying signal.”
Along with take-aways from the 2016 elections, Blackburn gave some insights to the recent Georgia 6th Congressional District race, won by Republican Karen Handel who raised $4 million compared to “the Democrat challenger who raised $23 million and outside groups spent another $20 million for him.”
Blackburn pointed out that Georgia’s 6th District “could not be bought,” and that “values matter, freedom matters, it matters to the American People that we support the Constitution.”
She also recognized the importance of messaging,“If you want to win, you have to have a message, you have to have a vision, you have to have passion and you have to know what you want to do,” which is what Karen Handel and her team did in Georgia, “knocking on 3,000 doors a day and making thousands of phone calls every day for 48 days.”
Blackburn also said in the wake of the targeted shootings of representatives in D.C. last week, “people expect civility and decorum,” and that, reflecting on the Georgia election, “It proved the nation’s security can’t be bought.”
Having spent the prior evening at a White House picnic, which her daughter and grandson also attended, Blackburn said her grandson wanted to shake the President’s hand for the third time, “Because people are being so mean to him.”
Blackburn’s take is that “The media can tear down Trump and Pence all day long. But, they need Congress not to cut them down and the Republican Party not to divide, but unite.”
“Congress needs to help the President deal with health care infrastructure, taxes, borders and the result will be jobs, jobs, jobs and safe society, a productive society, a society focused on the values we all cherish.”
Blackburn, sharing some insights, said “The President knows the American people are hungry for the truth, leadership, getting things done and ready for somebody to help point that way.”
With “the American people ready for action and wanting to see things get done,” on issues like Obamacare repeal, tax reform with a 1040 form that has 14 lines and a corporate tax rate of 15 percent, border security, and rural broadband, “the biggest economic tool in rural America,” Blackburn said, it’s “Important for us in Congress that we communicate we get that message.”
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A Developmental Establishment for Her Community
By: Shavon Shorter Chesney
ICITE is a non-profit that provides development to teens and adults in underdeveloped neighborhoods.
From studying as a full time senior in college to also working full time, Sophie Gilbert adds CEO of an organization called “ICITE” to her plate.
“I started ICITE in 2018 when the community center in my neighborhood specifically started getting new management,” said Gilbert. “I didn’t feel that the new people who were placed there, were there for the best interest of the kids and their attendance started to dwindle.”
Gilbert created this non-profit organization to aid in the lack of resources in her community. She helps in the development of teens and adults in underdeveloped neighborhoods through advocacy, education, arts, special programs, community service, and humanity work.
Her organization was created after an encounter with a person, she knew very well from her neighborhood and later arrested, told her there was nothing in the community for people like him. She wanted the young people in her neighborhood to feel that they have a place where they can have a positive impact on their life and their future.
Within Gilbert’s organization, she holds clothing drives, a food drive during Thanksgiving, and a coat drive during the winter for homeless shelters. While also collaborating these with homeless shelters for community service work for students.
“I want ICITE to be implemented in school programs, but more specifically the schools in the ‘hood’ that don’t get acknowledged, or the schools losing funding or don’t have funding for art programs or clubs because the money or basic interest in these kids aren’t there,” said Gilbert. “So you have thousands of kids that don’t have a third of the opportunities that others are afforded with.”
In her efforts of creating a place for people in her community, she’s witnessed younger people joining her program than hanging around the gang members in her neighborhood. She provides resources, like art programs, and learning activities that help with their education and homework.
“This is a great way to reach out to teens we serve and help provide them a place to go besides the streets,” said Amanda Thompson. “We create a safe open-minded space, where everyone is able to be themselves, share ideas, change without being judged, and challenge these kids to be more than a product of their environment.”
Sophie Gilbert is a leader within her community. Credit: Sophie Gilbert
Creating this organization wasn’t easy for Gilbert because it’s only run by herself with the help of volunteers from her family and friends. She would often have problems with funding and space because of the lack of sponsorship from other businesses and organizations and the lack of centers in her area that would allow space for a smaller organization to implement with their own without overstepping.
Most of the time, the pay she receives from her job she would put into the programs and trips that she arranges.
Even with the help, she faces some challenges of balancing her work, school, and organization. Eighty percent of the funds for her organization comes from herself and twenty percent comes from fundraising events she hosts.
She would organize bake sales, go fund me pages, and donations, but that wasn’t always enough. Due to her young age as well, most people believe she isn’t legit or do not want to fund it because she’s “too young to have experience.”
“I believe the black boys and girls in my neighborhood seeing a young black woman that grew up and is still growing up in the same environment that they are in and is fighting to open doors impacts them,” said Gilbert. “They are motivated to want to be apart of that because they want more for their future than what they have right now.”
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Bank Holiday Geekend
Three days away from work, so obviously I thought I’d get away from technological matters by breaking a computer. Er, I mean, “upgrading” it.
About two years ago I built a Media Center PC for the flat. For anyone unfamiliar, Windows XP Media Center was a special version of Windows designed to be used as a TV recorder. Instead of a monitor, mouse and keyboard you use a TV and remote control, and a set of big blue menus allow you to watch and record TV, view photos, listen to music or view any video files that you might have acquired that may or may not contain US television programmes not yet shown in the UK. Like Sky+ it can record a series of shows at the touch of the button, making it, when it works, a fantastic thing.
But that’s only when it’s in a good mood. XP Media Center proved more than a little cranky, and to compound matters I built the PC using odds and ends that I had lying around rather than the best parts for the job. Slightly iffy software combined with hardware of dubious provenance combined to produce a PC that worked fantastically well most of the time, but which spent days on end stubbornly refusing to do anything. Eventually, persuaded by a colleague, I decided to try to fix it by installing the new version of Media Center, now a part of Windows Vista.
Should take an hour or two, I thought – something to do while waiting for the washing machine and before going out to get a newspaper. Did it take an hour or two? Did it bollocks.
Vista and the old system might have got along famously had the motherboard manufacturer ever bothered to publish any drivers of any kind, or indeed any information about what parts it used, on the web. Sadly it hadn’t, but in London you’re never more than an hour or two away from even the most esoteric product, including computer parts. One quick trip into town later and I’d picked up a cheapo processor (Celeron E1200, £30) and motherboard (Gigabyte GA-73PVM-S2H, £40). Rip out the old stuff, stick the new bits in the case, wrestle with Intel’s completely stupid “push it until you’re certain you’ll break something” heatsink design, and voila:
.. a Media Center that actually works. The old one had an ancient integrated graphics chip that struggled heroically with the menus but would often mess them up, but the new one shows Vista’s newer, spanglier Media Center in all its fanciness. The old one ran at alarming temperatures, but the new one sits idle at less than 30 degrees and runs to just 36 going full tilt. The old one had to hibernate when not in use – and that required extra software – but the new one slips into S3 standby. Better yet, it found all the Freeview channels first time and compiled the programme guide automatically.
In short, it’s bound to break down spectacularly in the next seven days, probably taking the TV and/or our central heating system with it. Watch this space.
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Judge denies Reese family dismissal and access to seized assets for defense
In a series of mixed but mostly negative legal messages for embattled defendants Rick, Terri and Ryin Reese, Judge Robert C. Brack of the United States District Court for the District of New Mexico issued rulings last Tuesday on multiple motions related to the case.
Arrested almost two years ago for allegedly knowingly selling guns to cartel members while operating a New Mexico gun store, all Reese family members were found not guilty on the most serious charges of conspiracy. Additionally and significantly, money laundering charges against them were dismissed. Husband Rick, wife Terri and son Ryin were convicted on a handful of lesser charges of making false statements on forms, basically under the presumption that they should have known federal agents were lying. Rick and Ryin were released on bond in February and Terri was released on bond last year. Son Remington was cleared of all charges, and a new trial for the outstanding convictions has been ordered following Judge Brack’s ruling that the prosecutor withheld evidence from the jury.
The first setback for the family was having their motion to dismiss the remaining counts denied.
“The Tenth Circuit has held that ‘a violation of due process under Brady does not entitle a defendant to an acquittal, but only to a new trial in which the convicted defendant has access to the wrongfully withheld evidence,’” Judge Brack ordered.
The second order was a setback for the government, as Judge Brack denied the “Government’s Motion to Strike the Claims and Answers of Rick Reese and Terri Reese With Respect to Certain Defendants In Rem.” This involved assets and funds of the family business, Old Ironsides LLC d/b/a New Deal Shooting Sports, with the government’s position actually being the Reeses lacked standing as claimants.
Judge Brack’s third order denied the Reese’s Motions for Partial Release of Assets, a request that the Court release cash, gold, and silver to allow the family to pay their legal expenses.
“In support of their Motion for Partial Release of Assets, Rick Reese and Terri Reese submitted the affidavit of Rick Reese in which he states that the Reeses have no liquid assets, they are seeking employment, and they need the cash and precious metals to pay living expenses and attorneys’ fees.” Judge Brack acknowledged, nonetheless ruling against the motions citing “Defendants’ relatives have significant assets and have assisted them financially during the course of these proceedings [and] Defendants’ local and national supporters have established legal defense funds to pay Defendants’ legal expenses. “
Judge Brack’s opinion made no mention that relatives and supporters are under no legal burden to continue with financial assistance, nor did he address the likelihood that enough funds can be raised on a sustainable basis to pay for crushing and mounting legal expenses.
The final order was a mixed decision of sorts, with Judge Brack approving a stay on civil forfeiture actions until the conclusion of criminal proceedings, but denying Rick and Terri Reese’s motion for partial release of assets.
Meanwhile, the prosecution against the Reese family, now approaching the two-year mark since their ordeal first began and the one-year mark since the defendants were found not guilty on the brunt of the charges, the government continues to enjoy virtually unlimited assets with which to continue the prosecution. What that means is, the Reese family must continue to hope for supportive Americans to step forward to assist with their defense.
As Judge Brack so noted as he essentially sentenced the family to a de facto Blanche Dubois defense, one in which they must depend on the kindness of strangers, supporter donations can be sent to the Reese Defense Fund, Attention Patricia Arias, First Savings Bank, 520 South Gold, Deming, NM 88030. Additionally, The Firearms Coalition advises they have set up an online donation page at their website, as has the United States Justice Foundation.
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Syria versus OPCW
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A global chemical weapons watchdog OPCW says it has deployed fact-finding teams to investigate an alleged chemical attack in Douma, a town in Syria’s Eastern Ghouta kept in hands of insurgents.
“The Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) confirms that the Fact-Finding Mission (FFM) team is on its way to Syria and will start its work as of Saturday 14 April, 2018,” – the official confirmed.
The announcement came a few days after the alleged chemical attack which, according to NGOs on the ground, claimed the lives of more than 85 civilians and harmed thousand more.
Syrian Permanent Representative to the United Nations Bashar Al-Jaafari confirmed Damascus’ readiness to provide unlimited assistance to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) mission coming to the city of Douma in order to investigate into an alleged chemical attack.
“My country Syria stresses its unlimited cooperation with the OPCW to fulfill the commitments stated in the convention of the prohibition of the development, production, stockpiling and use of chemical weapons,” Al-Jaafari said during an emergency meeting on Syria at the UN Security Council this week.
Once again Al-Jaafari reminded that Syrian government has no possession of any chemicals weapons including chlorine that was allegedly used over the weekend in Douma, he added.
“The Syrian Arabic Republic stresses once again it does not possess any chemical weapons of any type, including chlorine,”Al- Jaafari said, while addressing UN.
However the record of co-operation between OPCW and Syrian government is far from being flawless. Back in 2017 Syria rejected the conclusions of the report of the OPCW-UN Joint Investigative Mechanism on Khan Sheikhoun incident because it was not “neutral and not professional, and it built its false charges against Syria on the process of fabricating evidence and manipulating information” Al-Jaafari claimed.
In a session (November 2017) of the Security Council on the report OPCW-UN Joint Mechanism, Al-Jaafari wondered how the Mechanism didn’t consider Khan Sheikhoun incident as a political issue, saying “Since when is chemical terrorism considered a fully technical issue and not a political one?”
Al-Jaafari said that some states’ governments claim that they adhere to ethics and they consider themselves as custodians of the provisions of international law and the UN Charter while at the same time they adopt policies that violate these noble moral principles and they exploit them to implement their destructive interference agendas“.
“Some UN committees, such as the Joint Mechanism, which should be neutral, professional, and credible, have proven through their work that they are biased and politicized,” Al-Jaafari continued ‘(2017).
Ambassador cited a number of examples indicating to lack of neutrality and professionalism by the Joint Mechanism, and regretted that the report on the internal investigations on the incident of Khan Sheikhoun did not reveal the truth about the attack.
Syria-OPCW turbulent record casts doubts if the current mission findings would be accepted by Syrian government as objective. Subsequently it asises even more doubts if military action is an adequate solution: Saddam Hussein also claimed he had no chemical weapons of mass destruction, however four star US Gen.Colin Powell had an alternative point of view…
The question on alleged chemical weapons use in Syria leads the West to another dilemma: is Abu-Bakr al Baghdadi a viable alternative to Bashar Al-Assad?
April 13, 2018 April 13, 2018 Europe correspondentAbu-Bakr al Baghdadi, Bashar Al Assad, chemical weapons, Douma, Ghouta, Khan Sheikhoun, OPCW, Syria, terrorism, UN1 Comment
No new Russian envoy to new NATO headquarters
Blog, International, NATO
Russian decision to postpone the appointment of a new ambassador to NATO announced today marks a new low in rapidly deteriorating relations between the East and the West, but even more it underlines Kremlin assertiveness, and claims of parity, turning the page of a period when one could label Russia as a “regional power“.
Russia will not appoint envoy to @NATO for the time being https://t.co/Yxw5rUrNCg
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— TASS (@tassagency_en) April 5, 2018
However while looking at new splendid NATO headquarters in Brussels one wonders what it the purpose of the Alliance today? What’s the raison d’être? If it is the revival of the Cold War, what is its aim this time? The Communism has fallen, and there is no official state ideology in Russia to defeat. The authoritarianism, human rights and rule of law issues can hardly be targets of criticism, while NATO ally Turkey’s ‘Sultan’ Erdogan openly, and literally conducts purges against his political opponents, and wages a war against Kurds, describing it the ‘Olive Branch’ operation against Islamic State.
Meanwhile the radicals are not shy about showing faces in Afghanistan. After a decade of military campaign, NATO has withdrawn its troops in 2014 without any definite conclusion, but rapid and widespread rise of Taliban. Nowadays the Islamists are taking grounds, imposing unprecedented levels of violence, and there is hardly a week without news of terrorist attacks, and numerous victims among civilians. Unlike the time of the beginning of the US military mission Jawbreaker (2001) against Osama Ben Laden in Tora Bora, the radicals are not hiding in the caves, they are claiming power, and constructing networks in real and virtual world, controlling two-thirds of Afghan territory. The airstrikes in defeating the radicals do not help much, but turn against the Kabul and the West the entire population of the provinces for ‘collateral damages’.
Hundreds of Dashte Arche residents started moving to #Kunduz city in protest over #Afghan airstrike. They say that if the gov't doesn't investigate these airstrikes, all residents of Dashte Arche will joint the #Taliban and announce their support from Islamic Emirate of Taliban. pic.twitter.com/cvdC8hMAvd
— Ariana News (@ArianaNews_) April 4, 2018
However even the rapid progress of Taliban does not motivate NATO to start a coordinated action with Moscow, in spite of the obvious interest of both sides to defeat terrorism, there are instead allegations of Russians ‘arming Taliban’.
BBC News – Russia 'arming the Afghan Taliban', says US https://t.co/7jhVflAv4q
— Rhys Crawley (@RhysCrawley) March 25, 2018
“They say they wouldn’t mind if we gave them weapons, but they don’t need weapons. They say ‘give us money, we’re buying weapons from the stocks of the Afghan army and police’,” Ambassador Zamir Kabulov was quoted as saying by The Associated Press.
Ambassador said that in their talks with the Taliban, the group’s representatives said they buy all their weapons illegally from the Afghan government and police, and asked for financial support for that.
While the West argues with Russia, reducing diplomatic missions and expelling staff, the Taliban actively uses an opportunity to expand, and it will succeed until there is a comprehensive joint NATO-Russia strategy for counter-terrorism. However within the current political situation, the low tight in diplomatic relations does not provide with an effective response to the rapidly growing terrorist threat.
#Taliban vows ‘serious revenge’ over #Afghan airstrike https://t.co/4RvqKoaF4w
— ARY News (@ARYNEWSOFFICIAL) April 5, 2018
April 5, 2018 Europe correspondentAnna van Densky, Jawbreaker, Moscow, OPINION, Osama Bin Laden, Russia, Russian mission, Taliban, Tora Bora, Zamir KabulovLeave a comment
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The Revelation of the Pyramids
2010, Mystery - 106 min 446 Comments
The Revelation Of The Pyramids takes an in depth look into one of the seven wonders of the world, the Great Pyramids of Egypt. Mystery has surrounded these epic structures for centuries with theories varying from the scientific to the bizarre.
However with over thirty-seven years of in depth research taking in sites from China, Peru, Mexico and Egypt, one scientist has as at last managed first to understand and then to reveal what lies behind this greatest of archaeological mysteries: a message of paramount importance for all mankind, through time and space.
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Justin Alexander Thibault - 10/29/2015 at 05:44
The universal language used to convey a warning about the changing of our planets environment wow.... Interesting to say the least if the math comes out this is seriously something that needs to be researched
Gudea - 10/09/2015 at 19:28
The real truth of the subject is not known, so nobody can say their purpose without involving a certain leap of faith. The fact that there are no markings in or on the Great Pyramid anywhere(and you can **** off with that cartouche because that is not fooling anyone, unless you are retarded), runs completely contrary to how the Egyptians operated. To suggest that these were tombs is a bit far fetched, why there would be so much effort to create something unprecedented and then leave it free from hieroglyphs etc. is a mystery. Tombs though? Seriously?
The Chosen™ - 09/12/2015 at 05:42
Completely useless. No info on the diamond! All other info made to confuse.
Edison Llanera Causapin - 10/18/2013 at 12:04
What if the future people would invent a time capsule and bring themselves back to ancient Egyptian time and build the pyramids and other ancient structural mysteries. I don't know! life itself is a mystery that I could never comprehend.
Hunor - 03/26/2013 at 17:07
And what about whit the Bosnian pyramids in Visoko nobody examine that structures and their sites :(
there is no such thing as Bosnian pyramids, only some hills bearing a vague resemblance, and good old Bosnian entrepreneurial spirit
Tonino ter Ressort - 01/24/2013 at 20:22
The bible does speak of huges human-/godlike creatures reaching ultimate high level of occultism. If you google for "Nephilims" you will find clear pictures of remains of them. They must have been able to build such enormous and complex buildings. Note that they had 'godlike' abbilities that is: speaking forth matter to be. As Jesus/ God/ Spiritfilledbelievers do. Semenless buildings are childsplay. Note also that at all of these places human sacrifices were made on a huge scale. Untill the Big Spirit of Live (the Living God / Jesus) said: "This is enough, you fools!" and covered all earth with water, vanishing those who called themselves god's, leaving their proud but stupid buildings to the elements.
No scientist will eat this, because it's not proveable. To bad for them, but things of the spirit must be decerned spiritual. Things of the flesh are to be decerned in the flesh. A great scientist is he who has the dare to combine those two in a lifetime. If you are willing: Read the bible and ask the living God for insight. It will lead to true knowledge, but no praise of man. For those who are not willing it is: claiming they are wise, they are foolish. Choose wisely ;-)
kody p - 01/04/2019 at 05:21
oh my gosh, wow, i have combined the two, and can disern the truth, the christ jesus, the living god :0
hopia munggo - 01/23/2013 at 14:52
this movie is stupid, y'all scientist are stupid, there's no such thing as aliens - read the bible y'all
the construction techniques used in Egypt, china, Peru ,easter island and so on are all copied from the tower of babel until angels came and scattered all mankind to different continents and languages thats why u see them all over the globe
they carry huge rocks Bcoz of one thing : GIANTS bible speaks of Nephilims - children of heavenly beings and humans even Goliath is a giant. we don't see much of them now Boz GOD wiped them out as soon as they finished constructing stuff
as for the precision and accuracy - in the old age women don't cover their boobies and there is no porn channel on TV. so men don't go around whole day thinking about boobies. also there are no Harvard study fools who tells them that u need to sleep 8 hours a day, take breaks on weekends,eat 3 times a day, or get it with a woman - to have a healthy life. people back then just work and work, eat when they get hungry, sleep a couple then go back to work without leaving the workplace. they don't easily get distracted Bcoz there's nothing else better to do
RO - 02/09/2013 at 17:59
yeah the bible ... right ...
send me $10,000 and i'll make sure you end up on the good list for santa claus this year ...
just as real as the bible
poor lil' child
initiated - 01/12/2013 at 19:51
Here is a theory , the Spinx is more then 10 000 years old as proven recently by the water erosion on its body and was part of a much older civilization, its face was not of a man but a lion and coincided with the house of Leo , the area was not a desert but a lush forest area as again proven, and the line shown in this documentary was in deed the equator ,I am amazed they didn't extrapolate on the subject, and the so called Atlantis in in deed in Antarctica since the equator would have been 33* different . the proof is in the old maps found , the earth stone and the fossilized forest on Antarctica, there was in deed a end of the world as they knew and will be again. What it will be , i am sure some knows but in the sake of keeping chaos in check you will most likely never be informed of it until , well , until its much too late.
Again proof that the past select few knew about it is simple , One only have to look in turkey and other part of the world for underground cities . Did the ancient civilization have power of flight , most likely , did they have the mean to colonize other planet , maybe , but unlikely for the simple fact that they would have come back to check on things, a rational mind would know that. or maybe they do , ETs....So they left some clue and religions and the power that be took care of it....
OK, eyebrows down , religion and all is a good thing to keep us in order , i don't debate it , but they also did everything they could to erase all real trace of our past , from the earliest to the most recent, all want to control the science and spirituality on earth . So lets pretend the dead sea scroll had information , the the library of Alexandria were still existing, or that the conquistador and the church didn't destroyed everything in site to erase all trace of what could jeopardize their authority. I am pretty sure that we would know much more then some math to explain what was. Anyway the simple facts are that we did have former civilization, that the Pyramids and other monument supposedly built by primitive people with no knowledge at all any subject brought to light in this documentary is talking about are in fact left over of that same civilization, and that the message is clear , our pole is shifting and from time to time we are wiped out , what can we do about it .....dooms day scenario , most will go , few will survive and try to rebuilt , most of the wise will be exterminated by the barbarian, and knowledge will be lost . Can you built an hydro electric dam , melt metal, never mind mining it, can you ? So the cycle will repeat itself again and again, what do we have that can sustain another end of days? well these same old monument will be pass yet again removed from more of its history, a cache of all seeds is hidden in the mountain of some northern country , and we have the Giorgia monument to tell us how to live, and sure can kick start a new religion lol .
I just hope that the next civilization will not be ruled by the same demon as we are ruled by today , but since we carry our ways in our DNA , chances are the same will repeat itself .
Dirk Steenbergen - 01/06/2013 at 21:35
A University professor at a well known institution of higher learning challenged his students with this question. "Did God create everything that exists?"
A student bravely replied, "Yes he did!"
"God created everything?" The professor asked.
"Yes sir, he certainly did," the student replied.
The professor answered, "If God created everything; then God created evil. And, since evil exists, and according to the principle that our works define who we are, then we can assume God is evil."
The student became quiet and did not answer the professor's hypothetical definition. The professor, quite pleased with himself, boasted to the students that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth.
Another student raised his hand and said, "May I ask you a question, professor?"
"Of course", replied the professor.
The student stood up and asked, "Professor, does cold exist?"
"What kind of question is this? Of course it exists. Have you never been cold?" The other students snickered at the young man's question.
The young man replied, "In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-460 F) is the total absence of heat; and all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist. We have created this word to describe how we feel if we have no heat."
The student continued, "Professor, does darkness exist?"
The professor responded, "Of course it does."
The student replied, "Once again you are wrong sir, darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact, we can use Newton's prism to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color.
You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn't this correct? Darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present."
Finally the young man asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?"
Now uncertain, the professor responded, "Of course, as I have already said. We see it everyday. It is in the daily examples of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.
To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist, sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat, or the darkness that comes when there is no light."
The professor sat down.
The young man's name : Albert EINSTEIN
Kim Diedrichsen - 11/15/2013 at 02:27
Just proves that Einstein was still a STUDENT then,who eventually evolved to make sense.
Hank Bosma - 09/13/2018 at 18:03
How wonderfully put,
I wish the world could read this, it clearifies the simplest of terms and proves a great point!
I do not believe in "coincidence", simply because there is a reason for everything! Ask yourself... where did we come from, why are we here and where are we going ?!? When you get the answers, you'll realize that we are here for a reason. Does darkness exist ?!? According to the laws of physics, what we consider darkness is in reality the absence of light. My glass is half full and you may consider your glass half empty ? I respect your free agency, that God has given us. Does death exist ?!? I know, there is life after "death", otherwise my life on this here planet would've been meaningless and without purpose... Again, why are we here ? That too is NO coincidence ! That's life, and it goes on and on... forever...
We are not human beings having a spiritual experience! Rather, we are spiritual beings having a human experience... After this life, we have the opportunity to return Home, where we came from. We lived with our heavenly Parents before we came down here. We are here to receive a body of flesh and bones, and learn about good and evil. It is necessary to have opposition in all things, in order to learn... and choose the right and follow the Light, Jesus Christ, the Savior and Son of God. [ God is our Father in Heaven ].
Marielene Bouyeure - 01/02/2013 at 20:51
Interesting information:
This documentary is the work of two Frenchmen, Jacques Grimault, writer of the book "La Révélation des Pyramides", the real narrator behind the voice off, and Patrice Pooyard, the "indicator" who studied the subject for over 30 years. The original text of has not been respected in the English version and has been made without their consent.
The original text is what this long research was really about and was only based on real facts.
jon jenkins - 11/24/2012 at 10:28
i keep doing that i should watch the whole thing b4 i comment :)
kuchler - 11/24/2012 at 17:13
What would make us think that an ancient civilization wanted to convey information to a civilization in the future? It would be more plausible that the function of these structures was to connect different sites around the world, perhaps utilizing a form of energy we have long forgotten about.
Yonaguni doesn't look like a structure for worshipping or something that was built. Judging by its structure it looks more like a quarry, where stone was cut and taken away. The scale and size of the stone that was removed is impressive. Compared to the way marble is quarried there are many similarities, it is the scale of the rock removed that leaves us bewildered.
has anyone ever tried to figure out if the polar changes and the different equater are mathmatacally related seems to me there was some kind of polar shift over the years
so people like us thousands of years later could see what they could do kinda like solidifying your place in history
maybe they were like a time cpsule to show what they knew about math and whatnot
u know they say they didnt have the measuring tools but i think they did and they were probably made of wood and thats why we cant find any of them.....maybe a little misinformed on that one but its really common sense
terence galland - 11/21/2012 at 00:23
I was inside the kings chamber of the great pyramid in 1994 and it is exactly as illustrated in the doc a bit claustrophobic though,looks as if it was made by modern stone cutting techniques could be it was made for only the tourists purpose just theorising.
overall a great mystery and a fantastic wonder of the world, just one thing though why would an advanced civilisation travel to earth to hump huge rocks around i think the answer lies buried in the earth.
throwupbreath - 11/15/2012 at 22:27
This was a pretty cool documentary. Nice one.
AC - 09/13/2012 at 15:53
If they are warning us of a catastrophe with an architecture like that, why didn't they outlive it?
Mars Sentinel - 09/06/2012 at 17:44
the mathematical, architectural, geological, social, and other information required to erect the pyramids is too complex, subtle, and sophisticated to be ciontained within the written language of the Egyptians who (is it claimed) built the pyramids. Their language was not up to the task. It is not detailed enough, it is not sufficient to have expressed the information required to support the building of the structures. THe Egyptians who carved the heiroglyphs in the pyramids and other structures did not build them - they FOUND them. Heiroglyphs are essentially graffitti.
The Rhind Mathematical Papyrus dated to around 1650 BC was copied by the Scribe Ahmes from an even older text. It is quite sophisticated in its language and it reveals a great deal about how much the ancient Egyptians knew. Your claims do not hold up.
Opelson - 09/03/2012 at 12:32
That Jean-Pierre is a genuine ******, and unfortunately most people behave exactly the same way, ignorant.
Paulinefabre84 - 08/20/2012 at 20:51
I think that the huge shiny pyramid like the other monuments presented on that video are attempts of men to comunicate with god.
Those poeple lived in conection with nature and where aware of the cycles of life, the influence of the sky on earth.
They knew astrology and believed god was in the sky.
Marius Ramstad - 08/15/2012 at 02:56
My first thought after combining the pyramids with some natural disaster was they seem like big ass bunkers, deliberately buried for protection of the people inside.
What a great film. However first alignment between shen-hsi, giza and the sun pyramid doesnt line up on a round world, only a flat one. Easter Island, Machu Piccu, Giza and Ankor Wat lines up perfectly though :)
Eric A. Vasallo - 03/30/2012 at 07:22
as more and more of these paid, old school archaeologists die off and the newer generations look at these mysteries with fresh eyes and use new technologies, the truth of our "real" history will finally be told. Dr. Sarah Parcak who has recently discovered 17 undiscovered pyramids using satellite imagery is a fine example of this new generation of open-minded, archaeologists that have not been paid off into conformity.
Rich Pea - 11/07/2013 at 03:27
Posts like this make me feel like humanity isn't that lost after all... thank you for bringing up this woman's work in Egypt, plus her work in Rome is brilliant as well.
mudshark23 - 03/29/2012 at 22:59
Does this not play for anyone else?
taxfatcats - 03/25/2012 at 06:06
Golden number for the trickle down pi
FriendlyPrimate - 03/16/2012 at 15:12
Starts off really well, but what we are told is a mystery one minute is very quickly turned in to a "fact". It then becomes just another exercise in fear mongery based on very little substance. There are some amazing details in there for sure, but don't expect any actual revelations. saw the thing through but couldn't wait for it to end.
Akandrew - 03/12/2012 at 18:55
Its just sad that this is just for us a huge huge waste of time to have known all this information SO SO LONG AGO and have to be trying to figure
this out again and again throughout generations and generations. The egyptians seem to of known something more then everyone else seems we still today cant even grasp some of the things theyve done. I can only imagine people of the church who have been in power for a long time finding & destorying priceless artifacts money is being thrown around in all the wrong places
seanshine69 - 03/09/2012 at 13:42
this is the best film i've ever seen concerning the wisdom of the ancients/Egyptians. and this coming from a man that got kicked off and arrested three times for climbing up the great pyramid on three separate full moons! lol
seriously tho, well worth a watch!
magarac - 03/07/2012 at 21:02
These nice straight lines between different sites look really convincing.
Only problem is that the earth is not flat and the none of these lines ever would be straight on a sphere.
But maybe the people of egypt had some sort of machine that made the earth round....
Justin Preston - 02/25/2012 at 09:26
elongated fingers are representations of the huge fingernails the chieftains grew David Attenbourg's doc bout Easter islands explains it clearly.. this doc tho thru and thru is utterly mind blowing well recommended
DanijelM - 02/01/2012 at 12:04
i actually watched the version where movie director her self was narrating it and it is beyond comparison. there is much more passion in that version. i had goose bumps throughout the whole doc.
would be great if someone uploaded that version
hello Dani. could you possibly post a link to the version you watched? kind regards Sean
Jonathan Girard - 04/02/2012 at 21:56
Its in video stores now. U have to pay to see this. Peoples sometimes forgot that we are in a world run by power and money...
supravista - 10/08/2012 at 02:03
People also seem to forget that has always been the case.
Robyn - 01/27/2012 at 11:12
Personally I think the Great Pyramid was built long before the other ones like Saqqara, Djoser and that Saqqara, Djoser were the Egyptians attempts at recreating the Great Pyramid. As for Dr. Hawass, he's full of hot air, a liar and is always hiding the real truth when he is wrong. I don't believe a word he says. Example, he statement emphatically that the G.P was built by slaves and yet when more evacuation was done, it showed that people living next to the G.P were not slaves but highly respected engineers, scribes and architects. I wish that they would put another person charge that has an open mind and less self importance to help the world understand this wonderful culture to it's fullest while we still have time.
spikey - 01/24/2012 at 23:11
Thought provoking and far-reaching in its implications.
And surprisingly evocative of many opinions and suspicions I have personally harboured surrounding the enigma of the Pyramids and other ancient monuments and relics so far discovered, especially in relation to a previous, world encompassing high technology civilisation, now sadly all but disappeared, save for these enigmatic monuments.
The mathematical 'coincidences' surrounding the Great Pyramid itself, together with the highly curious alignments with of other ancient structures around the world are obviously anything but coincidence.
The featured academics arguing the case for such a trivial explanation of the astounding encodings and alignments, only served in making themselves look as obstinate egotists, and demonstrating a degree of foolishness that is in conflict with their levels of intelligence and learning, in my opinion.
A gem of a film.
Congratulations to the author and filmmaker.
Tarquin Mahoney - 01/20/2012 at 01:44
Heres my theory...the pyramids get rebuilt to preserve the message once it has become clear what that message is- if its an important one giving us geological cues,
With the climate changing periodically, there was talk of seawater incursion evidence by another poster- if they got damaged a little the message of them being a clock would be constantly preserved by the next discoverers refinishing them.
would then have the time to more accurate, maybe have time to build another one!
It could be why the sphinx looks older and more rain damaged, you cant fix sandstone. .....but you can cut a few granite blocks and make something look newer than it is, dig it all out, seal it up against rain damage and bury the king in it.
Preserving him and your neverending time capsule with it.
but what exactly is that message -if there is one?
" we have the testament of Pharaoh Khufu himself that he only did repair work on the Great Pyramid. The Inventory Stele, found in 1857 by Auguste Mariette just to the east of the Pyramid, dates to about 1500 B.C., but according to Maspero and other experts, shows evidence of having been copied from a far older stele contemporaneous with the Fourth Dynasty. In the Stele, Khufu himself tells of his discoveries made while clearing away the sands from the Pyramid and Sphinx. He dedicated the account to Isis, who he called the "Mistress of the Western Mountain," "Mistress of the Pyramid," and identified the Pyramid itself as the "House of Isis." "
as for the 20 years bit...
the story of Herodotus, who in 443 B.C. visited Egypt and recounted how Pharaoh Cheops (the Greek name for Khufu) built the Great Pyramid during his reign with 100,000 men in 20 years. However, we now know this story is highly questionable. Even his contemporaries called Herodotus the "Father of Lies."
geologists are hard pressed to explain why there existed a fourteen-foot layer of silt sediment around the base of the Pyramid, a layer which also contained many seashells, and the fossil of a sea cow, all of which were dated by radiocarbon methods to 11,600 B.P. (Before Present) plus or minus 300 years.
the dates obtained from mortar used near the top of the Pyramid were a thousand years older than those obtained from mortar nearer the Pyramid base. The researchers, if they were to fully believe these findings, would have to propose that the Pyramid had somehow been built from the top down.
conclusive evidence of repair id say.
good doc but they missed out a lot of science.
"the Giza monuments were built using construction designs totally alien to any other pyramid form. As William R. Fix, in Pyramid Odyssey observed: "Because the other pyramids consist of much smaller blocks, they were built as a series of shells with multiple internal retaining walls to give cohesiveness. The three large Giza Pyramids do not have these internal casings. The very size of the blocks produces the necessary stability. This characteristic reveals a general excellence of workmanship and also imply a much higher technological capability than that employed anywhere else..
And fifth, unlike any pyramid supposedly built either before or after the Giza Three, none of the Giza monuments contain religious symbols or pictures in any of their inner chambers."
Ash NA - 03/10/2012 at 07:29
At the moment yours are the only comments I read on this site, but every time you post something I hear crickets... I can't help thinking anything of real worth is wasted on the internet, but type OMG LOLZ a thousand times and you are considered a person of great intellectual worth.
Also perplexing is the presence of fossil saltwater / seashells and marine fossils 13,000 feet up in Tiahuanaco and around the shores of lake Titicaca. Salt water fossils in their millions, 3 miles up?
Numerous flood myths and legends of cyclic calamity around the world from many diverse ancient cultures.
I don't fear the revelation of the knowledge, whatever that ultimately is, although I'm apprehensive for the safety and continuity of my young family.
Among the scholars, governments, long-standing religious orders and the secret societies of this world, it's a certainty that this knowledge is realised, but kept from the general public...which of course, only fuels the speculation that it is something that is thought would cause panic and the downfall of civilisation if it were to be known by all of us.
If my family is to end, i think it reasonable we should have at least a respectable window with which to contemplate and prepare for our possible survival or certain demise.
Telescreen Nation - 01/26/2012 at 19:02
Why everyone and all the time think that any of these ancient buildings, temples, pyramids or everything else were build to leave a message, maybe leave a warning ? I don't think so. it was build for purpose, but that purpose definitely wasn't warning to our poor present day humanity. At least it seems so now, when thousands of years worth of history, artifacts, knowledge were destroyed in the last few centuries..
Why were they destroyed, the only thing in my mind is they want it to hide something. The mayans, books, histories was destroyed by the catholic church. What truth? Why destroying history of a different sociaty?
Its only to get power and get the peoples believe in a different way, and why....
We are living in a world were bullshit is all around us, the goverment, fake power own by peoples with money, money that slow down the evolution of our planet...
We have found treatments for many differents diseases, what they do, make peels that u gonna have to take for the rest of your life, to make sure the money keep coming in for thoses who found the treatment. Wow this is crappy evolution of a stupid humain been stuck in is own hole that was make by his own self....
"We are living in a world were bulls*it is all around us."
You could make that claim about most societies before us. Pick ANY prior society and I'll paint you a picture of the "bulls*it" of the goverment, fake power owned by people with money, money that slows down the evolution of our planet.
I have little patience for those who make claims that the current times are unique for this. Study history more and your world view will change for the wiser.
Svetlana Vigliaturo - 01/19/2012 at 16:58
A very interesting documentary for open mind thinkers. The most profound story about the pyramids that I have ever read or seen.
Hermes - 01/09/2012 at 22:11
Little ignorant humans buzzing around such buildings remember me the opening scene of 2001 A Space Odissey, where the monkey-like protohumans encounter the monolyth, an object of precise geometric proportions (in that case are the squares of 1, 2 and 3, rather simple stuff compared to the pyramid) which also is the bearer of knowledge that transforms those creatures into higher level beings. Thank god pyramids are so much bigger, there's a lot of work to do here.
Benjamin Clarkson - 01/07/2012 at 09:47
This documentary has failed to apply occam's razor at any step.
This documentary is hooey and conspiracy theories. I can explain how it was built in 20 years. LOTS AND LOTS OF SLAVES. The reason buildings take longer to build now is because we pay our workers and don't work them to death.
bialdza - 01/09/2012 at 15:21
lol are you really that ignorant to believe that the piramids were build with slaves? Japanese with modern science couldn't build a smaller piramid, and how did they build coridors pointing exactly to certain stars? how did they have the knowledge of a star distance, to build the piramid in Orion's belt position WHILE USING THOSE REDICULOUS TOOLS ?!?!!? Are you really that blind ?
aaron curtis - 01/21/2012 at 04:47
Nope, that just plain doesn't hold up, ask an engineer how many slaves it would take, the numbers just plain do not add up. It was either built over a period of thousands of years by conventional theory methods, or it was built in less than twenty years by unknown technology...or maybe, it was built by unknown technology over a period of many years, but your statement is just not plausible.
Felix Castrillon - 03/15/2012 at 17:37
a group of scientist in the States (hired by Discovery Channel) decided to recreate what it was to move a stone with exactly the same features as to those from Egypt and re-enacting the probable conditions back then. In order to move only one stone over a distance of 5 feet they required 30 well-built people and took them over five hours. Now you do the maths.
BobbyMar - 01/05/2012 at 23:15
I am not an expert on this by any means...can anyone tell why the majority of Eygptoligist believe that the great pyramid took 20 years to build..The documentry lead me to believe that there was little or no documentation from that period..thanks
Herodotus' Histories, written in about the 400s b.c. Herdotus was given tour by the local priests of the area, which keep in mind was at least 2 or 3 thousand years after even the conventional dating. not exactly fresh info even 2400 years ago eh?
Mike Ellis - 01/04/2012 at 12:35
BEWARE: MANMADE CLIMATE CHANGE PROPAGANDA FILM disquised as a cool Pyramid/Astronomy doc. Very disappointed the producers of this piece ignored so many possible POSITIVE messages that could be intended by the Ancients!
Guest - 01/04/2012 at 16:49
@Mike Ellis,
Let's leave these "Anciants" a good message: -"Next time, try to be a bit more explicite. Otherwise, don't disguise your ignorance".
karan1592 - 01/04/2012 at 05:45
why are so many of these skeptics on pyramids all French!!!!???
Yen Il Sun - 01/12/2012 at 02:38
Haha really ?
@karan1592,
Taking for granted that you're either a brit or an american,
-Still, it's better than being part of war criminal nation.
Oh yeah. The French are certainly in such a pristine position to judge others. Christ, let us make Saints of each of them.
@lakhotason,
Asking with such instance, why not reply?
So I did & if he ever follow up, he'll know.
Pierre, if you take your world map and circle every hotspot you'll soon see that pretty much all , with a few exceptions, are formally colonies of European nations. There's where the problem lies. You guys screwed up the world then threw your hands up and walked away.
Now you have the gall to sit on your ass and criticize the US because you don't like the way we are dealing with the mess you made.
Either help correct the problem you made or kick back and have a steaming cup of Shut The Fu@k Up.
1st) I live in one of those former "Colonies" just as the US.
Brit's, Spanish & French colonies ceased existing quite a few hundred years ago.
2nd) I heard that we now live in modern world, except for a few regions on planet earth.
Speaking of "the mess you made", as you see...
Even if that mess dates back to other younger ages of humankind, I ain't part of them.
Lastly, as one throws a comment such as the one from karan1592, what one should be expecting? If he's old enough to access this website, he old enough to digest it.
How come I absolutely knew you would say "I ain't part of it".
Nothing could prove what I'm saying is true more than that answer.
"A few hundred years ago..."
Poetry again? I don't have a clue.
Oops. I think I've figured out what Pierre is trying to say. I may just owe the man an apology. Me and my big mouth. Jeez.
Strangely enough, I was thinking the exact contrary while watching my other movie on another site.
The thing is that I witheld further comments I had in mind in our last few exhanges. I mean, not to make anymore wave, y'a know...
It's this: The USA sure has a solid basis within its constitution.
I mean the one on which the country was founded, not the "New" modified one through the Patriot Act...
And I have read a comment here on TDF (Quite a while back) from a US citizen to the mention that the USA forefathers just couldn't imagine the future world we're now living in.
-Quite obvious, isn't it?
Those US forefathers sure builded the most scrupulous basis for democracy and freedom. we know that since the USA constitution is one of the many best democracy on planet earth.
I don't have time to loose here with the other clowns...
The point was & I guess remains: How many time since that constitution exist did it gotten updated within the spirit of the those forefathers since its estalishement in order to face the new trends for the modern world?
I always felt like it needed to be thrown forward but in the end, it may be that the fact that I was brought up with the principle of "What doesn't hurt me, I'd better ignore it".
Anyhow, we now know that your "Patriot Act" did restrained your constitution instead of giving it more teeth coze it became a sin qua non necessity.
I remember a sub-comment to the US citizen who felt like the forefathers just could predict the future and simply commented:
Update or renewal just can't be done anymore, in now days.
After then, I decided to remain mute, even in the case of "Lakhotason" or anyone else. Sort of a missing link.
And my replies may well have a sour taste, understandingly.
Now, I'll have to cut my other movie in 2 days...
Pierre - I was assuming you were French when I made a couple of remarks to you earlier. Please ignore those comments and accept my apologies.
Not totally wrong, my mum was French speaking, & Mums...
But was brought up in an English speaking surrounding.
Then, moved abroad in a French speaking surrounding since it was within my own nature.
I realise that I've lost much, but still.
There would have been things about the USA sort of "Renewal" of the US constitution that would have been a great thing exchange but as the other USA citizen told that it's sort of useless, I did push that aside. Anyhow, we woundn't even see it happen in our lifetime.
A bit of the same thing in my specialty, I ain't a stud anymore.
I was thinking to myself that where I work, we still buy quite a few of US made pretty specialised chemicals, and if any sort of "Storm" ever happens over there, I'll be sweating like hell to find equivalents elsewhere. And they ma not exist = reformulation from "A to Z"...
So... Not in my days please.
Only 10 active years to go, after then, the heck with it.
BTW, our exchanges may not be within the lines of what these docu comments are for... Let's just hope that Vlatco doesn't see...
No harms done since it may be me who's unwillng to plainly justify my thoughts.
@Pysmythe,
Ok, ok..
Maybe not India, it was within the 20th but when did UK agreed that Australia can self-govern itself?
Oh, Canada as well.
It's been worst for Spain coze they had a little financial prob'm.
And the French are a little more imposing. Pretty different indeed.
Bwarff! I said a couple of hundred years.
2 is more than 1, isn't it?
Even 150 is more than only one.
Close enogh for me.
Sorry to disrup but it appear that another TDF customer need the same advise.
User name : Out_Of Africa in "Bombies: The Secret War" in reply to Jack1952.
Don't have time to watch, busy elsewhere.
Pierre, what nationality are you?
No. I don't fall for this. Not on the internet.
No one has that obligation.
Unless giving it it up, to friendly third parties which doesn't seem to be the case. It's everyone own choice.
But if you have a better look at my description (Which dates a little, it is said that I'm from an old Brit colony?
Whoupsy! I don't see it! Must be in my description or another website? Sorry, I owe you one here...
Anyhow, UK gave freedom of self-government to most of its colony some ~(200-400) years ago.Even to the Vergin Islands.
-Dates varies. Unmentioned the USA coze they split apart from UK on their own.
I'm half way my other movie, gotta go.
Dude - 01/01/2012 at 14:21
Did it ever occur to anyone that the Pyramids all over the world, were built to hide in every 26,000 yrs ?? They certainly are the proper shape to "deflect" something coming at you from above....?? And the underground tunnels would be handy in a fiery event on the surface. Then there's the Georgia Guidestones and the Order of the Rose and Cross..aka ...Rosicrucians...they know something I would say.....
@Dude,
Yes. Archeologists from everywhere seen this.
Better yet, they decrypted most anciants languages found everywhere on earth. They learned since they have time & tools in now days.
But not even once, have they factuatually discovered an archeological motive to believe that an more advance society ever existed.
It appears to me that most of these "Previous" societies (Anywhere on earth) climbed up the latter of knowledge in a very "Specialised" fashion. Meaning that they pushed so hard one line of knowledge, the rest of their social social ways of living was left aside.
So, quite impressive to see what human beings can come to if all of their every days preoccupations are toward one sole technology or "Knowledge", know how...
Anyhow, archeologists can go back in earlier times of humankind, thus follow the awakening of technology or should I say "Know How".
They can put dates (Carbon dating) on these steps.
There is no 2, 3 or 10 time 26,000 years cycles because humankind didn't exist in those eras.
About living spiecies from outer space?
Why would anybody discuss anything that do not have a factual existance, proven by any mean?
Better get busy with what we have than...
OK, how about, there's lots of written languages that have not been translated, because we do not have the tools to do it from a cold start (as in the universal translator from Star Trek I suppose).
carbon dating does not work on the artifacts under discussion.
Getting the Facts of what it would take to build the great pyramid, the sphinx temple, an inca structure or two from an Engineer(!) as opposed to a bone duster (archaeologist) is the proof of highly advanced ancient civilizations.
And modern humans have existed for at least 200,000 years.
Is there anything else you'd like to be proven wrong about in one sentence or less?
David Bowles - 01/10/2012 at 14:41
And to think these guys went to all this trouble when you got there with a little tinfoil ...
batvette - 02/11/2012 at 13:44
Maybe that something is merely how to create a buzz feeding on peoples' curious nature...
the fact that archeologists dont allow the enigneers to analyze the objects shows that something is hidden from the world. Also i completely believe that we should keep an open mind about these mysteries. the chinese govt should allow the world to analyze the pyramids, who knows what might we find there.. but we are ruling out that possibility, who knows what we might find in china, we might find some clues/..
the fact that archeologists do not allow engineers to analyze the pyramids shows that there is something which they are hiding.
PLUS i think the chinese govt should allow archeologists to analyze the pyramids, it can bring out some of the mysteries. who knows.
thirt13n - 12/29/2011 at 12:05
Pyramid updates, cool, brings on the off planet entities. And points out beyond the earth tenent technologies. It's primal manufactured function is perhaps relitive to a megatron within a microwave oven. Even the experts get out acheived by still new findings.
Mike James - 12/28/2011 at 02:27
please do some critical thinking when amazing claims are made. Everything about this speed of light "fact" is misleading and a flat out lie. Lets look at the actual numbers, how they display the numbers, and how close to the speed of light the number actually is.
The number they get from the circle calculations is 29,979,613. The speed of light is 299,792,458. Here is how they choose to display the numbers on the show.
299,792458
299,79613
This is clearly a misleading and inaccurate way to write the number 29,979,613.
The difference between these two numbers is 269,812,845. The calculations claimed in this video are almost 270million off, the speed of light is not in the math of the Pyramids. not even close.
Branefart - 12/26/2011 at 01:16
Fun documentary to watch. However the Egyptians recorded every aspect of their lives in their hieroglyphs. How they lived, what they ate, and yes, even how they built the Pyramids.
How can anyone with a sensible mind even think otherwise.. Oh noes, the aliens..............
People, ugh!!
Jose Manuel Ataide - 12/27/2011 at 18:43
??? How they built the Pyramids ??? NEVER such thing has been found and, believe me, there are thousands and thousands of hieroglyphs! Who told you that? Mr. Hawass, the liar? Com'on, man... by the way, I guess he also told you how they built the Great Pyramid in the 20 years, right? One single block every 9 seconds, huh? WoW ... those guys were good !!!!!! :
over the edge - 12/28/2011 at 03:02
@Jose Manuel Ataide
where did you get that figure? by that math there would be over 70 million blocks, but every estimate i can find is 2.3 million. but you are only off by a factor of over 3000%
yeah mr wowie zahi (hawass the liar) bugs the crap out of me too
Egon Persson - 01/02/2012 at 20:34
Pardon? The Egyptians recorded every aspect of their lives and yet they wrote nothing about how the Pyramids where built - did you dream they did? Could you please inform the world a little more about it. As far as the rest of us know, they hardly even mentioned the Pyramids - isn't this a little strange?
Arnie - 12/18/2011 at 06:34
That was an amazing documentary!
I was very frustrated at the beginning of this documentary because they kept referring to the pyramids on the GIZA plateau as being only 5,000 years old or 3,000BC.
The new date of the pyramids construction has now been put at 10,500BC or earlier based on the relationship of the Sphinx. The Sphinx is LEO representing the constellation LEO. At the spring equinox on March 21st in the year 10,500BC to 10,450BC the Sphinx points directly at the sun rising in the constellation LEO.
What is missing from this program and what I hope to see in part two is the relationship of the 3 smaller pyramids beside the large pyramid that correspond to the positions of the 3 stars in Orion’s belt that are at their lowest position in Earth's precession in 10,450BC to 10,500BC.
The 3 smaller pyramids beside the smallest pyramid mark the positions of the 3 stars in Orion’s belt at their highest position in Earth's precession in the year 2,400AD.
Earth's precession has been calculated to be between 25,800 and 26,000 years.
One of the functions of the pyramid complex on the GIZA plateau is that of an astronomical star clock that measures Earth's precession in its rotation based on new evidence.
The other details of this documentary that link the GIZA plateau pyramids to other sites around the world on an equatorial equator is really amazing!
All of the details now emerging about the mathematical relationships contained in the large pyramid are equally fascinating. I was unaware of these mathematical relationships until I watched this documentary. I also learned the origin of the length of the metre.
So I definitely look forward to part two of this documentary that further explains the layout of the pyramid complex in Egypt as it relates to Orion's belt and Earth's precession.
This advanced ancient Egyptian culture is thought to have been destroyed in 10,000BC when an asteroid swarm struck the Earth.
There is evidence in the largest pyramid that it was filled to half its height in salt water when a tsunami struck the area. For the longest time the base of the pyramids was hidden under a thick layer of sand filled with sea shells.
This same asteroid swarm also dropped an asteroid on North America in the vicinity of Ottawa, Canada. The asteroid vaporized the 1.5 mile thick ice sheet covering this area of North America. At this time in 10,000BC all the large mammals were wiped out including the Clovis people who were just starting to colonize North America.
The asteroid swarm in 10,000BC would destabilize the Earth's climate for about 2,000 years. In 8,000BC a new wave of Clovis people return to North America once again following the seals and fish along the glacier from France to the East coast of North America.
This site has the documentary "Journey to 10,000BC" which explains this.
A lot of GREAT new information on the pyramids in Egypt and the advanced human civilization that built them. A civilization more advanced than ours today.
check out earth under fire , paul laviollete- video is on ufotv on youtube.
right up your street -with added actual real science.
sws420 - 12/18/2011 at 04:39
They built the pyramids using the cubit as a measuring distance, this is according to all the Docs Ive seen about the pyrammids. Now these guys keep saying pie and the golden number times/ divided by whatevere in meters equals meters. What did I miss and where do I find the info to correct myself?
Jamie Megarity - 12/21/2011 at 05:18
They said that the Cubit wasn't always accurate.
I don't see how they could make such precise measurements with a faulty measuring system so it leads me to think they just copied the Cubit. well... they created the word Cubit but obviously got the measurement it stood for slightly wrong sometimes.
In other words, i have no idea and i think this is the most recent documentary on the pyramids.
Please correct me if i am wrong there people as i would love to see more
see reply to sws420, pi and phi refer to ratios, not units of measure
pi and the golden mean, phi, are ratios, not dependent on the unit of measure used...one fifth of something is always one fifth of something whether it's in meters inches or cubits, dig? The point is that they knew about complex mathematical ratios, supposedly discovered by later greeks, who, by the way credited the egyptians with teaching them these. hope that helps
Thank you, I appreciate your reply, and yea I see it now.
Actually, I just now watched the whole documentary, and at about 1 hour 10 minutes, they say how the cubit could have been derived from the meter. it's worth going back to. p.s. happy 4:20
Just a short comment (ish) ...... Why cant we carve that kind of stuff? Eveybody has rocks in there yard and a copper chisle can be bought at any hardware store.
With all the talent and skill in America over the last 300 yrs, and lets not forget the Egyptians with like 5000 years experience carving rock, at least 10 people should be able to do it,f not, then there absoulutely(?) had to be some sort of "help". Or is my logic tree askew? Now be nice with the comments Please?
Not exactly about carving, but have you heard of Ed Leedskalnin and his Coral Castle in Florida?
YES! I think he may have had the key to moving these mammoth stones!
Yes, very cool stuff, if you have good info source on that let me know...
Martin Bækgaard - 12/14/2011 at 15:24
I have just watched this movie and i love it, its looking at the facts ands let us take the choose to belive and not. Exactly like science is supose to, in my eyes anyway.
For the last 10 years roughly, when ive seen documentary's, ive had the feeling we wasnt the only civilation (the last 11000 years of humanity i mean). But no one never mentioned it until now, atlest the stuff ive seen.
Im a big fan of math you can almost call it a fetish, and one thing ive looked at is probability, the fact as i see it is the pyramid is ment for us now, not 500 years ago or in 500 years from now.For some reason they knew when we where going to reach this level of technology, and be able to undestod what they where trying to tell us. I draw this conclusion on the fact, that we now start to undestand, how imposible it is to make the pyramids today. And even the most stubborn schoolers cant convinces us otherwise anymore.
This is from another post of mine, sorry if you get to read it twice:
2.5 million stones devided with 20 years = 125.000 stones a year devided with 365.25 days (since every 4 years feb. has 29 days) = 342,231 stones a day devided with 24 hours = 14,259 stones an hour devided with 60 min = 0.237 stones a min.
That is cutting the stone, polishing it, moving it and put it in place in 4.2 min. non stop for 20 years. With out a single mistake or a ruined stone which we all know we humans never do so i dont even know why i say this :-). or if they only worked 4 months a year 1 stone every 1.4 min.
Ive heard a lot of numbers of stone and years, so not to step on anyones toes
here is the 2 millon 22 years version too, shortened a little :-)
2 millon stones in 22 years = 0.173 stones a min. Or 1 stone every 5.8 min.
If we use the 4 month again, one stone every 1.9 min.
Its funny coz there is so many wierd things in our history, like the explanation for the name greenland. A geolegyist said "well the vikings thought they reached iceland, but by mistake it was greenland, and thats why its called greenland" Well if i went to a new contry and it was full of ice, my first thought isnt to call it greenland, and iceland isnt that green either.
Paul Currie - 12/14/2011 at 02:40
some fudged facts here. but i don't believe egyptologists have it all correct either. interesting how many times pi and the golden ratio occur
omar tapia - 12/13/2011 at 09:03
if you want to say something, first open you mind listen then talk LEO MULLETT , because people like you we are lams in a wolf's cave of religion
Miles Weston - 12/22/2011 at 21:31
Well said that comment by that Leo was about a stupid as it can get
leo mullett - 12/11/2011 at 04:22
I HAVE NOT WATCHED THIS VIDEO
Having read many of the comments (there are 326 as I write this) a few things are
1- This is NOT a documentary.
It is a video that presents information and theories
in a way that can be fun to watch
2- If you are looking for the latest research egyptology
from world experts this is not a film for you
3- Thank you to the first 100 comments even though I will not watch this video, I have found your comments very entertaning.
IzirAtig - 12/13/2011 at 02:59
You should watch it
the mesopotamian crescent was believed to be the cradle of civilisation. everyone agreed that cities in the region sprung up round 7000bc. this was a commonly accepted theory. until 1994 and the discovery of gobekli tepe in turkey pushed it back to around 10000 or 11000bc. although gobekli tepe is a temple, there would be no need for such a massive temple complex without a population to support it. the carving techniques and the size of stone used means they must have had many years of experience in stone masonry, possibly pushing the date back even further into pre history, indeed pointing to a forgotten era in human history.
i'm not saying every notion presented here is fact but to discount it automatically, without even watching the film is naive. throughout the twentieth century theories about our past have come and gone, been accepted as fact then rubbished. so much is invested in certain theories, i.e resources and ego's, that even when they are proven to be false, they don't die easily. few egyptologists agree on even the most basic tennants of the first dynasty and even fewer are able to decipher the hieratic writing system, and none are 100 per cent certain on the translation. lots of grey areas. lots of contradictory theories. no one right answer.
however, maths is, as we all know, universal.
so before you dismiss something out of hand and tell everyone they are wrong, at least have the decency to watch the material and then formulate your hypothesis and we'd all be glad to hear it.
Ryam Anderson - 12/08/2011 at 14:51
This is a good documentary. People don't seem to think it is because it still leaves them with no answeres. But that seems to be our problem as human beings, is that we have to make up a story or have the answer to everything. And we never will. We don't know if they were built from previouse advanced civilizations, or tha ancient alien theory, or some form of god. All we truley can say is that our traditional view in our history books is an obviouse mistake, and an impossible feat. People are too arrogant and have too much ego to re-write our history books and just say 'WE DON'T KNOW'!!! Same reason people still believe in stories from the bible and refuse to change there opinions. We will never be able to comprehend the universe, and many things about our past. But people can't handle that, so they latch on to simple minded, ancient theories and beliefs for a security blanket. I think we should always wonder, and always aproach things with an open mind.
David Humphreys - 12/07/2011 at 08:43
This documentary is lame. I was caught up in it because of its style and pace. But honestly the science and math done here is bull. They over and over again take coincidence and pretend it means something deeper. They also use traditional documentary techniques to make you assume things that arn't there. for example: when he talks to the architect of the glass pyramid, that conversation is so edited down, and they play daunting music over the architect's words as he seems to complain about something. This creates an effect that maybe they pushed him too far, and he was angry about secrets being let out, but really we have no idea why we was in that mood, maybe he spilled his coffee. Documentary filmmakers know how to lie, and make you believe it. Keep that in mind.
anunakilandia - 12/08/2011 at 21:06
i agree on what you said, but the math.... its too constant and applies to too much around us. im not saying its a fact but it definetly rises my curiosity as it ought to do in many of our species. as for the documentary and its director... we are all bias in our discussions if not how will we prove our theories/beliefs. in essence we must use our own doubt to find whats true. lets get the thinking!
Jodie Kautz - 12/10/2011 at 17:36
Agreed about the ways filmmakers can bend the truth towards their liking, but it would not be too far fetched to see this happening in the history books, the media and endless government propaganda/patriotism.
Ashley - 12/06/2011 at 10:49
Egyptologists and those who believe their claims are complete nutcases. Simply mad they are. The things that come out of their mouths make you question Egyptology as a serious science. They make these outrageous claims with absolutely no evidence to back them up, immediately reject any ideas that conflict with their beliefs, and fail to appreciate or even acknowledge the most astonishing features of the Great Pyramid. It's infuriating that they are taken seriously by anyone at all. Arrogance has no place in science; facts are facts and if they were real scientists they would check their egos at the door and do some real work to test out the most logical and easily executable theories. Do they not realize it is them who stands in the way of progress? Not only do they stand in the way, but they resist and even discourage it?
eighty_88 - 12/06/2011 at 07:42
I agree with altaf_rahman. Why did they not see their own extinction coming? Not only that, now that we are 'warned", what exactly are we supposed to do? Start building underground? Or somehow be prepared for an enormous series of lightening strikes that will cause a devastating fire across the ENTIRE globe? Maybe several thousand arsonists will be to blame. It doesn't make sense or I've missed something here.
Having said all that I genuinely enjoyed the documentary but I still have no idea who is responsible for these awesome monuments and it would seem that nobody does either...still!
(PS - sorry if that spoilt it for anyone that hasn't watched it yet! I suggest you do anyway!)
they probably did predict their own extinction but, like us with 2012, the vast majority of the public dont want to think about it, so they slander and sling mud to ensure they dont have to think about it anymore.
joe ineson - 01/20/2012 at 01:01
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altaf_rahman - 12/04/2011 at 04:42
I was getting convinced but linking the speed of light m/s figure with some dimension measurement tripped me off.
In the end, I think this documentary in several occasions, dragged on opinionated assumptions based upon mere co-incidences. some of the cases :
- They showed how I. M. Pei, the architect of Louvre pyramid, wanted to show his concern of his another appointment. And that means he is hiding something ? Asking the other scientist about speed of light measurement - i guess they took his answers out of context.
- (at the end part) Ancient people wanted to warn us by creating these large monuments ? come on ! could they predict their own extinction ? And there is no other way to warn us ?
- the giant 100 mile wide belt across the globe - why Teotihuacan pyramids of Mexico were not included ? just because it doesn't help justifying the theory ? they included Persepolis in Iran but did not include Greek Parthenon ?
I love coming back to watch this documentary.
I don't need to learn anything new, just be reminded of everything in her. and just reading what this documentary is prompting people to think is brilliant.
Spread this documentary around people
look at the comments below and imagine the amount of other ideas that could be made!!!
Kriteesh Parashar - 12/03/2011 at 15:58
This is a nice documentary , we are a civilization of different paradigm , its really hard for us to connect with what the ancients had to do with these monuments ,which are undoubtedly architectural marvels which any modern architect would envy.
1) i differentiate between these two paradigms as "intutitive" and "sensing" ...sapient beings know which one is what .
2) read some books by moustaffa gaddala ,and u notice that we really dont want modern machines and stupid technology of current paradigm to do it , its intutition at work .. and i m not totally crediting intuition to this . When pure beings do things , they do it purely .. and stupids like us just carry out measurements and feel that they knew our maths and science ..
3) ask yourself a simple question ... why a circle has 360 degrees ??? not 192 or 668 ...my quest for this secret began there and i m enjoying the ride ...
4) we have vedic scriptures with us as well , they are living contemporaries of pyramid age .. but the ignorant world remains ignorant ...the ones who deserved the light of truth ..went through them n achieved it .. world continue to sit besides LHC , billion dollar investment hoping to recieve answer which everybody shared with us through these living megaliths ..
5)all the best seekers of truth ..
Rob DjDopejack Simo - 11/28/2011 at 15:17
Was loving this doc right up until the end where they attributed it all to climate change - is there no pie these people dont have their grubby little fingers in?
gunkwhat - 12/09/2011 at 15:07
Milankovitch cycles. They touch on climate change that occurs outside our commercial bubble. Regardless of fox news and super megamall owners and land rover drivers say, climate change happens with or without us. Debunking it is totally missing the picture.
Maybe that should tell you something about climate change rob :)
not meant in an insulting way because you are 100% right. just dont stop thinking at that point =]
Willy/Will - 11/26/2011 at 00:46
This is an excellent Documentary, one of the best I have seen on the subject. Its unfortunate that a completely different and somewhat unethical story has and is being told about the Ancient Egyptians and all the Ancients. Why are 'they' not open to the idea that these magnificent structures all around the world ARE linked and possibly built by the same Civilization? Why is it so hard to believe that many Eons ago our Planet was occupied by a vast Civilization like us, communicating and sharing information. Who understood our whole Planet and the influences and were so wise to build amazing structures filled with Geometric and Astrological messages,using Mathematics as the language to communicate to future generations about really serious tragedies caused by influences that are not in our control but we can prepare for. They won't even accept the builders understood the length of a Meter, which would mean they knew the circumference of the Earth. there is hundreds of Coincidences when it comes to the Ancients and all these structures that makes me absolutely adamant this is all linked and its a BIG message we are conveniently ignoring. The Ancients must feel disgusted!
Son Goku - 11/23/2011 at 14:05
Narration by Agamemnon
jeremy.shepherd - 11/22/2011 at 14:07
Very interesting documentary and well worth the watch. One of the better documentaries about ancient Egypt with a lesser bias than most.
GismoDK - 11/21/2011 at 13:40
Wow - really liked this documentary.. Always been bitten by the space-bug and the "how-the-hell-did-the-pyramids-get-build"-bug ;-) The idea of a previous advanced civilization doing it and all the math that surrounds it, is very interesting and eye-opening for my part! (as well as the spread around the earth with such precision, but has the finely-cut-stoned-buildings/walls not been built outside this path??)
I remember reading an article about - multiple - tunnels carved out from the central chambers of some pyramids that at a specific date/time would align perfectly with some stars.. Has anyone heard/read about this too? If so why wasn't that in the Doc.. and what's to find from these alignments (if it a fact, not fiction)
Another thing I remember - in relation to this documentary - is that our solar system supposibly "wobbles" up and down (resembling a frequency-wave in its path) compared to the center of our galaxy and that when this "wave" tops we enter an area of higher risk when it comes to asteroids, etc. Could there be a link between the 26.000 year period and the entering of the high-risk area that could lead to if not certain, but more likely, cataclysm..
Another theory I found myself thinking was that when the sites of these building techniques are located along a stringent path around the Earth, could this be a result of several aircrafts entering the atmosphere from the same point in space but touching down at different location.. Nah I'm just randomly guessing now ;-)
and those helicopter looking inscriptions you love, if you googled them, youd find that they around different peoples names crossed out with other peoples names. graffiti, sort of. actually, im almost certain they touch on that near the end of the doc too.
Nick Heard - 11/19/2011 at 08:13
Erm, this may have been touched on, but I haven't been bothered to read through the lengthy conversation which seems to have been going on.
1: The 'uncanny' hieroglyphs. The one that looks like a helicopter only looks like a helicopter when you put it next to a picture of a helicopter which looks like it. The others are likened to Thunderbird 2 and some machine from Star Wars. Regardless of any vague similarity there might be, it's worth mentioning that neither Thunderbird 2 nor that thing from Star Wars actually exist, so any similarity they might have with some ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs is completely meaningless.
2: If the builders of the pyramids had access to advanced metal tools made of things like hardened steel, and (by this logic) knowledge of electricity, WHY THE HELL WERE THEY BUILDING EVERYTHING OUT OF STONE? ! ? Why didn't they build steel framed buildings? With this knowledge and the abundance of glass in Egypt, why do we find no strengthened glass panels? Why no synthetic materials? Why were their boats made out of papyrus reeds? Why does the archeological record show no progression beyond the bronze age at the time of the pyramid's construction? Are some people blind to the glaring inconsistencies of the 'aliens helped the Egyptians build the pyramids with advanced technology' argument? Really, if you just stop to think about it for even ten seconds the whole house of cards turns to dust and blows off into the desert.
well nick, did you watch the doc, or skip that too? im pretty sure they touched on the idea of the egyptians not building it, compounded with the mention that whoever built it made the choice to use hard rock because, unlike modern tools and materials, granite doesnt erode as easily. this would explain why they were riding around in reed boats, because they werent the ones that built it. if you even watched it for ten seconds, you might have heard something...
sounds rude eh? they also mentioned that the hypo behind this doc isnt about aliens, they talk mostly about men doing this, but way way further back then 4000 years. this might explain to you why we havent found any drills laying around too. you probably didnt watch it, assumed it was about aliens, and then wrote quick dismissive drabble to detour everybody from watching it.
they make strict reference to all monuments being made by man, but being way older than we think. that is the target of the movie, and never directly do they say aliens did anything.
"WHY THE HELL WERE THEY BUILDING EVERYTHING OUT OF STONE"
Slap yourself really hard Nick, then watch this whole Documentary with your FULLEST attention. In fact, you don't even need to watch it, why is it not obvious. "Steal framed buildings" LOLOL!
Only the stone buildings survived over the past 12,500 years or more. Any other buildings made out of wood or metals would have rotted or rusted away or weathered away over time.
Certainly their conception of the material and spiritual were not like ours. Making a wall with a 30 ton stone is far more complex than building it with bricks. However they chose the stone. And they were neither stupid nor ignorant, this is what fascinates me!
Thomas - 11/14/2011 at 10:35
light+time+space=perception ?? did I win a peanut? see what I did? I think we have had our perspective backwards. I really do mean this by the way.
Also I would like to point out the connection of Hinduism in quantum mechanics and how maybe our late ancestors were trying to help civilization that way. Because if you think about it I bet they would try to create something on the grounds of very early civilizations comprehension knowing after the "dark age" we might be in bad shape. The dark age being the
worlds flooding or burning issue that occurs during the end of its cycle. its almost surreal to read. Also I am willing to bet its 8 sides represent the directions like a compass on the pyramids n,ne,e,se,sw,nw etc since it would appear they are trying to conserve something or maybe just trying to live who knows
But who knows really? I just find it very odd that we keep finding new and older signs of civilization, maybe these points of reference such as the pyramids and such were places these races attempted to hide during the final cycle of there time. Ya know before the lands layout was like it is now. Which could also explain how each race got to its current location. If any
of you can present a good argument please do, because this
issue is something I have been toying with for a little bit. So
I think it to be more then a coincidence so many people seem to
be realizing something but are just unable to explain it. Also
what was the 2012 October date the one that aligns us? Maybe
they designed these places to be water tight as well but what
about breathing?
Omg thank you for this opportunity. #1 its 12/21/12 and is when the sun and earth eclips the galactic plane. But what a bust Y2K was as many other events which in retrospect had been cultivated without any true substance. Or just false flag operations. From the meier contact notes, the different races came from different solar systems that had different suns. I'll not tell you exactly because I want who ever might be of interest, to track race down in that matter.every skin color has its origins in this manner. When 1 uses the term psuedo science, try going back over everything you think you know. Its very hard work but its a mindblower to find out the current status of what we are taught deplorable. And I can back that up with actual physical experiments, not pseudo experiments. As I am not smart these experiments would be simple to replicate of some complex questions, as many might see it. But have some courage to discourage your own ego centricity for just brief moments if nothing else. We are not from the same monkey as we are not even from monkeys. If you have been on this quest to answer why you exist, dont sell yourself short. You can know and its fascinating to know. If anything the 2012 thing can be said to be passing from the era of belief to the era of knowing. To be human is to ask the questions. Our contribution to existence is what we can do for each other. Its what makes us more than we were. As it takes us all to be what we are and are going to be
Anon ymous - 11/13/2011 at 15:05
A very interesting documentary indeed.I would almost consider it pseudo-science except it uses many facts to its end.Yes it leaves out a lot of other cultures but it does not undermine its message.A good watch.Makes you think.There are far to many anomalies not to pose question to such events.
If you watch the documentary on this site called thunderrbolts of the gods, it makes so much sense that electricity does concentrate on key sites. Oh and someone actually took photos of air filled electricity. They occur in another film on this site called Pyaramid code? its a long film but well worth the time viewing.
They were such advanced mathematicians, but what of their dietary & living standards? Surely they would have needed to have developed a very efficient, clean & nutritional dietary regime to sustain such awesome manpower for years on end, while also maintaining a birthing rate to replenish the workforce as they retired or became ill. Then of course would have been the need for some type of medical treatment, although I'm only taking a really wild guess here that these people would have had any kind of healthcare system 4700 years ago.
Heather Smith - 11/10/2011 at 17:45
Chaos Theory.... Honestly a fun look at some interesting historical questions but they left out SOOOOO much on other cultures. Of course you can draw lines any where on our globe and link cultures. What about the megalithic architecture in the Lion's Gate at Mycenae? What about Stonehenge? What about the Serpent Mound in Ohio? What about Moundville and Cahokia? Chaco Canyon's great road system? What about Machu Picchu? What about Britian's Chalk Horse and Man carvings? Petra? It might seem like compelling information, but given only certain facts I can make anything seem compelling. Lacking just a tad bit of fact which might disqualify their evidence. As for the whole earth change thing, yeah that's a fact but it didn't take Phi and the Golden Ratio to figure that out.
Everything you just said = Spot on. Other cultures have definitely been left out.
"Lacking just a tad bit of fact which might disqualify their evidence. As for the whole earth change thing, yeah that's a fact but it didn't take Phi and the Golden Ratio to figure that out."
We couldn't possibly ask the creator of this to document everything though. Either they would never finish, or it would be a good few hundred hours long.
And as for Golden Ratio and Phi... well these are methods of measure for a natural effect.
I'm not saying they are the reason for the earth change. I think that earth change can be measured and predicted (calculated) using these methods. :)
After all, in order to construct something that will last forever, you have to be able to measure and calculate (predict the effects of) the earths natural "disasters" and changes.
We look to all the ancient constructions and see the same methods and calculations.
What did they know then, that we don't now?
BTW what did you think of the Chinese Burying their Pyramids?
They have advanced so fast. created amazing things. Have a greater ability to condition the mind and learn.
Seems to me, if they hadn't realised what the Pyramids are for or the message they contained, they wouldn't plant trees all over them.
Is that just me?
seems to me i read that someone ordered the planting of trees on them. Which means they are purposely being hidden. Why when during a brief period during ww2 i think when fly overs were allowed, someone managed to snap photos of many of them and get them out of china, the photos that is.
Are we considering the great pyramid is either a transmitter or a receiver? I was wondering about that? or was it both?
An absolutely brilliant documentary, though at the same time quite disturbing with the conclusion it draws...
CherryBombpop - 11/05/2011 at 07:23
I got all excited when I saw Brian Cox was going to be narrating, but it so isn't him. Maybe it's a different guy named Brian Cox, but it isn't the cute one, alas. Good doc anyway, a little sensationalistic but informative. I liked Magical Egypt even better, it's certainly more down to earth. No Brian Cox in that one either though. Drats.
matej abramic - 11/04/2011 at 02:04
Great documentary.
LIVEFROMLIMBO - 11/03/2011 at 06:25
iheard that the real mayan end date was oct28 2011. there is a difference of 14 months because our calendar is based on the gregorian calendar, not the mayans. i dont think its meant to be an "end" per se, but maybe an end of a cycle, which is coinciding with precession as well as the starts of the worldwide "occupy" movement in major cities. also news of 7 billion person to be born on earth (which begs the question why 7 is the landmark number, even if only symbolically).
Pope Gregory hired a mathematician to correct the calender at that time so the correction is called gregorian . But only after columbus or whoever it was came over and stoled a bunch of mayan records. Theres no logical protocol as how gregory's mathematicians did that correction. Oh i think the previous calender was Julian? Any way if the priesthood couldnt get spring planting schedule right, ie easter, the they would have lost their heveanly powers. As the con game goes.
What I know yall wont want to here about is, try the Randolph Winters contact notes of the Billy Meier case. p.s. my avatar is a photo of Asket. She is a beautiful woman. If you can trace her leagacy here you will have gone through a mind changing experience.
Um...really have no idea what you are talking about. :/
i agree, and your approach is a lot more polite than mine.
Really? Me? Polite? I must be losing my edge. ^.^
Are you saying you dont know how to look up randolph winters' contact notes on Billy Meier? What is it you have no idea about?
No, I mean I can't understand what you are talking about, you are not concise. I find your writing unclear. On top of that you don't think the sun is a fusion engine, but rather some kind of solar wind projector of energy from space? And you don't have an avatar picture.
how do i put my avatar on here? And I am not concise about what? By the way if you want to see my avatar go to google or veoh and look up billy meier contact notes or randolph winters lectures and you will see a picture of Asket. She is my avatar and 1 of my personal heros or heroines. Thank you for asking.
Oh and would you ask what az is doing in her avatar? :)
The V represents the two parts of me, the physical and the incorporeal also when i look at it from my perspective palm in, it represents to be at peace with both.
Peace starts from the y of ii.
A third party would not know how to answer your question for me.
I am actually grateful that you responded to me. But now I need to say I am clueless as to what you said. I need to find some common ground to begin to understand you. maybe you can suggest some body of knowledge i can use to educate myself on your interests or subject matter. Coming to an understanding is what I am about. the people who know me either get their minds blown or they think im crazy, because they all know im not lyeing about what I have to say. I actually do experiments. I am constructive cooperative and cxoincide. i dont like what competitiveness does to people. Having said that i get real defensive if someone is just trying to give me a beating. But thats just me :). If i have said something someone disagrees with ill explain myself in as many was or be proven wrong. I dont learn if i think im always right. true knowledge most dont like because it says what they thought was wrong ...sometimes. Oh i dont always proof read and i broke my hands a few times so im a typing ... they will censor that
It's not meant to be live changing for anyone else, not meant to be anything for anyone...it's just a symbol photograph that i took of myself during a shoot while i was writing a 40 pages poetry story. Some of which are in my very old posts, i stopped writing poetry here when Vlatko asked me to.
The hand in the shape of a Y represents the self divided into the physical and incorporeal, and the goal of peace within.
Excellant description. I can understand that. I am currently trying to balance my brain. So I am becoming a little more able to understand you, when as before in prior years, i would have struggled with that response from you. I guess we can live and learned and grow.
Oh and I know nothing of Vlatko. How does 1 engage him in conversation. I wanty to understand his motivation. Maybe I can learn something. We are never too old to learn. not even me.
(I think) Vlatko will engage in conversations when he finds them of interest and that could be any time. Religious threads have pushed his button more than once but science seem to tickle him the right way.
I just sent an email to Lloyd Pye with implications that with Lloyd's help. Explains why and how a realigning of our current path of hero worshipping will and is changing. In my mind my blogging, take out the vulgarities, points to this. Maybe I've only been hinting and not been to the point? I say when i am its considered insanity. I thank you for your suggestions. How about will this get his attention: Einstein, Darwin, Newton, and Freud, only lead to more theory as we now have the tools to know they were just a wild shot in the dark. As there is only 1 truth, then when a pardox occurs, its time to change the paradigm. Im curious what ideas about science interests him. Hey Vlatko are you there? What motivates you to produce this site?
@homie12,
1. Do you realize that this is a thread on a documentary about the Pyramids?
2. I would converse about Einstein, Darwin, Newton, and Freud but when provided with tons of solid arguments I'm afraid you'll start to insult and thus you'll degenerate the discussion. It happened once.
3. It is obvious that you're conspiracy lover. For you almost all science is wrong, and there is scientific conspiracy agenda. You tend to read only certain authors like Lloyd Pye (UFO/Big Foot conspiracy nut) who promotes his agenda that Everything You Know is Wrong and that the pyramids were built by aliens.
4. This guy Lloyd Pye is debunked over and over, all over the Internet, again and again, but I suppose you don't read those. In my opinion he is simply a nut-case who doesn't deserve a shred of attention.
5. Having said all above I think I'll refrain from engaging in this conversation.
Did i mention my avatar is Asket? how do i put her as my avatar?
oh i just got what u meant by V i thought it was 2 because of 2 fingers
the rest i am clueless about
Oh and I am looking forward to this debate. As it really gets into things that have been proven real, and most of us just will not accept. So don't hold back.
meier was that guy who was in contact with ETs all his life right, even taking pictures of craft and such...so whats this about winters?
yes and thank you very much for asking. Randolph winters has 2, 2 part lectures. And google had them both. Now I cant 1/2 of the later 1. But the contact notes are from when Randoplh winters spent at least a month and some other time correspnding with billy meier mostly. If you find those and I have them downloaded. You will understand who my avatar is. She is Asket. And a very beautiful blonde Timmor. By the way the contact notes are supposedly The entire contact history plus the talmuhd emanuel. If you want the link you can find it searching randolph winters it might take a few searches, but atleast its free. And again I appreciate your consideration for just asking.
I forgot to specifically say that Randolph Winters stay at the Billy Meier ranch in hinterschmidruti switzerland for at least a month. And the things he did and witnessed there were quite spectacular
Oh and this film goes through a lot of effort to repeat the same math principles and yet doesnt say what for. Y2K was a joke, 2012 isnt the pinpoint some say it is. And if the mayans made that calender, they could read it but they can't. So what possibilities are we left with? WE limit ourselves. We here on this planet insist we are at the center of the universe. It makes me feel like an ostrich instead of a human being. Why isn't it obvious people live on other planets and yes they visit here quite often. Richard Dolan's research on this subject easily shows that's overwhelmingly the case. AND Lloyd Pye's as well.
Ok I have some suggestions. And please im not ego centric nor omnipotent. So squash the name calling at me or I'll go ghetto on ya. The great year traces the path our sun follows while we follow it through the galaxy. If you see gravitational theory as an estimation and realize the universe is an electric 1, then so many things become obvious. I dam well made a free energy circuit. It works and I'm not selling anything. Next will be an overunity device. The purpose of space is to conduct energy over vast distances. So far as I've traced it, energy comes from the galaxies. Which means the sun isnt a fusion engine, its an electric anode. Its absorbing energy from the galaxy and sending the solar wind out into the solar system, hence the outer solar atmosphere is the heliopause. All these facts are observable. As is the fact that if you are paying an electric bill you are getting ripped off. Where do the utility companies get it. They move magnets past wire coils. Which means a conductor thruogh a magnetic field or vica versa. But they dont collect the back EMF. If they did more energy would generated than used to create it. If i can find these things out then so can yall. Im not smart nor do i think i am. Dont you think its time for a new paradigm? Heck man it's the 21st century. We owe it to our children to drop our parent's ignorance.
Why the presupposition that technology was required? Before humans were locked into semantics to the same degree as today perhaps the relationship between thought and physical manifestation was more direct. Energy may have thus operated at a higher frequency and moving a 1200 tonne block may have required no more than visualisation, a thought-form at a certain octave. Listen to your DNA talk to your DNA. It is quite apparent through legend, myth, history, race memories and personal experience that both genetic manipulation and mind control have been a foundation and basis for civilization for some time. Agriculture is no more than sequestering what was once free and abundant; engineering shortages and hence shaping desires. A narrow mind is easily directed - agriculture is the basic model for how knowledge has been treated, also, monoculture leads to infertile plains, famine and self-destructive water management. Wether knowledge or food or our sexuality it is clear that an awakening within the sphinx or online in 2011 is nothing more than a realisation that we have been pursuing falsehoods and through our involuntary shaping we may never be able to see the truth as long as we remain totally within this plain/paradigm. Ascenscion is a universal concept that is best understood musically. As i grew up through formal education i was always dissapointed and could not understand why music, mathematics and sport were treated and taught as seperate fields of study. The egyptians did not make this distinction. listen to your DNA talk to your DNA.
Brilliant mate. I love your thinking.
Unfortunately, when I'm typing my "thoughts" its all good and fine but by the time I'm done, the train of thought has gone a long way.
I get the feeling you are also this way.
which brings me to adding you (djc200) and Hastily urging someone to
make a Pyramid related comment haha,
John, if you want to talk more you know where I am :)
"The presupposition that technology was required" is coming from the obvious signs of the technology. This documentary gave a very descent coverage of that. It's not about "moving a 1200 tonne block" (if you think so, you have to re-watch the film), but also about cutting it with an astonishing precision using "tools" that were never found, designing the building structures with an incredible architectural and mathematical mindset, arranging them according to star constellations and planet cycles, and giving all other signs of an obviously very deep and profound knowledge our ancient ancestors had about our planet/solar system/galaxy, etc.
If it was just about the "energy operating on a higher frequency" (which you for some reason assume, and which would contradict the laws of physics on this planet), then the awkward massive / unproportional / ugly stone structures would be all over the world, just because it was so easy to build them. Instead, all the massive structures demonstrate highly advanced knowledge the ancient civilizations had on so many levels.
Just watch it again, man.
you are right. As i have 3 degrees in construction , civil engineering ,phjysics based. material. By the way, we are close to having that technology you are refering to. I f we didn't already have it. But that would negate those who control energy distribution wouldnt it?
@djc200
Thank you djc :)
Im glad you can see it too :). I don't really have a conclusion to my observations. Just a gut feeling i suppose that makes me question and think about everything. Just from pure observation of what actually happens around me, I am pretty much convinced of this.
My theory of life itself and indeed everything that the human brain can detect, is a relatively simple one. A circle. that is all. A source of energy igniting at one moment and starting a cycle of pre-determined return to the original state of energy needed for those circumstances to occur.
"cause and effect", "karma", "what goes around, comes around".
We seem to be aware of so much yet oblivious to it all.
The orbit of our planets and galaxy's, along with the fact that nearly all of the recorded texts and imagery of the past, that try to inform us and ease our questions, mention times of reoccurring global/human disasters. More simply put, a small change in our "circumstances" that changes the very equation of our make up. They applied the reasons for change, or indeed a mapping system to inform us of our arrival at times of change, in the stars.
Even today scientist will speak of gravitational pulls and forces that will directly cause changes in our magnetic field. they will state that the rotating motion of these objects combined with the Physical make up of the objects themselves, creates a "field". basically a contained limit as to where the current "circumstances" will allow its influences to reach.
for me, our detectable universe is only detectable to us because the surrounding levels of "energy" or "electro magnetism" are all following the same "Formula". we are all in the same Field. Same circumstances or environment (in terms of energy levels).
Our brain is surrounded by a membrane that contains our electric signals and makes it possible for the billions and trillions of "individual" cells to exchange information and relay data.
In my opinion, the same thing is true for our galaxy and indeed everything we come across. Including the make up of an "atom".
"the golden number" interests me as it depicts a spiral. this to me is just a cycle being described with a predictable outcome that will re occur again and again. If life is built from a formula like this, then that would prove the reason the pyramids have stayed relatively unchanged and could even open up the very nature of our bodies regeneration ability. generally giving us a good guideline to work from. If everything we can actually register as a conscious being can be sourced down to the same laws of procession, we could advance so much farther.
Einstein had the right idea by giving us the laws of physics. I dont think he ever meant for us to assume anything else would be impossible. Science and the general thought process nowadays is making learning, adapting, changing and generally "evolving" as a person, an incredibly difficult and frustrating task. If we were to drop this arrogant attitude of being far smarter than any previous occupier of earth, due to the fact that we are newer here, we could go far.
If you started a new job and your new colleagues gave you advice... would you listen to the new guy before you, or the guy who has been around for years?
I say we listen to the ancients. Until we stop arguing about who's theory is right and the sooner we drop the ego of the "clever man" in order to branch out and try new possibilities, the better. only then will we advance. you cant discover new things if you let someone else's test ( in itself, a word to describe extremely specified conditions) stop you from trying other things in other conditions.
untill WE do that, the brain will be forever wasted. forced to think and operate in false limitations and ideology.
my final point is... dont ever ever ever just accept someones assumptions on a subject. look at the things they have found and draw your own conclusion. do you feel we are right?
This is a brilliant documentary. As always you have to accept and set aside the personality of a person who "knows" he's right because [insert "facts" other people have made that they just believe because the can't/won't succeed in saying "maybe your right, i dunno. tell me more...].
With that out of the way, I must say that the Symmetrical walls really took me by surprise. I know there are ways of moving big things around, no matter what the time period, but to do so with such precision "without" extremely specialist equipment. The human hand as we know it, can't really do exactly what we want it to. we shake, we jump, we twitch. in general we aren't perfect... To build something so huge with such anal retentive measurements, at the speed that they did... We are obviously rather misinformed.
Another point, that the Pyramids could very well be pre-Egyptian, also jumps out at me. I think the Hieroglyphs could possibly be a detailed record of its excavation and the contents when it was found. It doesn't really make sense to me that they would depict images, stories and epic detail of current (of their period) events, on a building they constructed themselves.
would we really carve out what David Cameron and Nick Clegg have been fussing over or documenting the latest x factor? from my perspective, the "Egyptians" stumbled upon an epic, foreign, strange structure. they Excavated
and grew Obsessed with the complexity and intellect In all the details and came to the same questions we did. What the hell is this? why? who made this?
They carved their beliefs and stories and legends of the pyramids and their meaning. But i don't think they where a master race as such with the capabilities to engineer a structure with the Properties of Giza.
I think the Egyptians were merely part of a long line of earths inhabitants, who found, excavated, discovered amazing wonders, understood as far as their comprehension would allow, filled in the blanks with religious answers and guesses, Built vast cities and monuments around the structures ( which were far inferior to the intellect that went in to the pyramids and statues, hence why they are no longer here), then simply crumbled like every empire/civilization/age we know of... thus leaving us excavating and attempting to discover and learn about the pyramids... Just like them.
call it what you want. we already know that the earth is a constantly changing environment and does so in a cyclical fashion (seasons, calenders, day, night, eclipses, ice ages, climate change)
when these change you get different weather and conditions. in certain extremes this causes a whole lot of death.
I think the pyramids where meant to protect the knowledge in the heads of a select few, from the worst conditions the earth can throw at us. thus meaning we don't have to start from square 1 every time it happens.
In my humble opinion of course
@Jamie Megarity
In now days, there are softwares that can decipher hieroglyphs. But huge puters...
Anyhow, no language can be hermetic.
Anyhow, scentists deciphered the hieroglyphs before these puters & softwares were existed.
They even went farer in the past and deciphered a language that dates back before the Babylinian era.
I was told by one of my co-worker (Chemistry) that one of his pHd'ed brother is working on the "Sanscrit" language. They're almost done...
I think that "Sanscrit" was before the Babylonian era.
What should be pointed out about that docu is that the Egyptian (Pharao's era) just like all anciant civilisations was based on grossly one sole extremely developped technology compared to what what humankind has at hand in now days.
Last year, I developped a polishing paste that can serve to polish radar dishes, telescopes among other things.
There are at least some ~ 150 types of amumna I could use as an abrasive. Each one calcined and cooled down at different temperatures and speed.
Ok now, take the radar dishes that has the metal tungsten in its alloy?
These material thing do not evaporate through centuries.
It breaks down to what a girl one told me some 30 years back: -"You can know every thing 'bout one thing and known nothing 'bout everything but the best if for you to be "Balanced".
I now guess that human beings call this "Evolution"...
djc200 - 10/29/2011 at 20:24
Jamie FTW!! We got a thinker here. :) I could picture them now - the Illuminati huddling in those pyramids during the next solar burn-out of earth. I'm convinced as well that there are definitely a select few who know this and aren't saying. The same people who probably are letting this world run amuck now (mass social unrest, gross inequality, global financial collapses, starvation, peak oil, government lies, obesity, etc.).
Eventually, this planet will end up looking like Mars; fact is, Mars used to have a magnetic field as well, running rivers of water, and probably abundant organic life - that is, before its center cooled and couldn't produce the magnetic field to stop the sun's radiation from toasting it to kingdom come.
Best comment so far on this doc.
As for the 1st paragraph, well... couldn't have said it better myself.
When it comes to Mars, though, you're making conclusions out of theories/suppositions. It doesn't matter where or how, we all want to believe we're not alone in the universe, meet an alien and so on, but... so far and concerning the pyramids in general, the only thing we all agree with (except for the egyptologists) is that an advance civilization built them, in fact they were a lot better than us. Now, are we talking about aliens, superman, the planet of the apes?
@Jamie, have you seen The History Channel's Ancient Aliens, Season 2, Episode 4 - "Underground Aliens"? This is where I believe the people/beings of the ancient have tried to hide and protect themselves from the solar radiation from the sun.
No i must admit I gave up on the first hurdle.
Think the girlfriend was on my case so I put CSI on to get some peace.
Will have a watch now :D
If there was any end-of-the-world story that I would bet a dollar on (no more than that!), it's this one. Very entertaining and hugely depressing at the same time. It's got me thinking... the rise in the frequency of catastrophic earthquakes in recent years, along with various other natural disasters and the changing of our global climate, have me wondering if the fact that our solar system will align with our Milky Way galaxy in years to come and how geo-physicists like Michiu Kaku are sounding the alarm for greater solar storms in 2012, are all symptoms of a relatively imminent polar shift on Earth - we're supposedly due up for one soon. :/
Btw, you should laugh at me for letting my sentences run on like that, you know.
Moral of the story, make sure your cup of tea is half-full before watching this rather impressive documentary on the marvels of the Ancients.
Jonathan Handforth - 10/19/2011 at 20:22
Sensationalist nonsense. But entertaining nonsense nonetheless. Thoroughly enjoyed watching it.
David Foster - 10/27/2011 at 23:16
No more nonsense than archaeology's explanation of everything.. which is to say that everyone in the ancient world was so completely driven by religion that they built a bunch of goofy, inexplicably over-engineered, and otherwise useless monuments, at the cost of millions of lives and countless resources, simply to impress their gods in hopes of having a better harvest!
anuragawasthi - 10/16/2011 at 10:52
There is an ancient legend in India presently known as 'Towers of Brahma'.........The same was mentioned by the French mathematician Édouard Lucas in 1883. and the Graphical representation of the same
resenbles a huge pyramids.with so many wild theories in the doc the above shld also been mentioned
I liked the 5 rings puzzle, very interesting and fun to complete!
tenar - 10/12/2011 at 06:29
the architectural arguments for such precise measurements are believable, but the conclusion is, at best, unfinished. if we are at a point in time where we are facing such catastrophic upheaval, there would be nothing we could do about it. and for the ancients to build such time-enduring structures simply to let us know that most of us can kiss our arse goodbye is illogical. i think these structures served a more immediate purpose for the ancients during their time. at almost the very end of this documentary, they throw in the mayan calender and mention the 26,000 year cycle. some theories interpret this cycle to be indicative of a kind of spiritual evolution which, considering the mess the world is in today, offer hope for us as a species and recognize the fact that we are all connected to each other and our world; that we need to discard the ideologies such as religion, nationality and race (to name a few) which are used by different political factions to control the masses. maybe i'm just an old flower child but I find the idea of spiritual progress manifesting itself in the material world exciting.
knowledgeizpower - 10/10/2011 at 16:24
Yeah it is powerful Az all I know is is that I have been experiencing alot of things in my life and asking for answers.. And there are alot of things that I have been feeling and I didn't know what they where because I was not focusing on in it using "My Spiritual Eye" and now that I have understanding I feel like I see things alot Clearer you know what I'm saying Az its like you said you can't describe it..
And its like when you experience like people say things like awakening you can't go back to sleep if you understand...Soo thats what I have been looking up alot of information on right now thats where I am and I know I have some ways to go but I feel really really good because I feel like I'm going down a Good Path and I'm understanding what my purpose is whoosh that was a relief lol :D I'm Happy To come Across Your Path I think You Are an Enlightened One Az you Inspire without trying to thats Special.. Okay Now I'm bout to watch a Doc...Im gonna say something different on ya since I say Peace alot that you asked me was that my last name lol soo Deuces:D
Here is a technique you can try with a willing friend.
One of you lays down, eyes closed.
The other starts suggesting a story, ex: you are sitting at the foot of a tree, there is a narrow river near by, you get up and reach a canoe, you get in it and come to the other side...then the person ask what do you see? answer...then the person continues the story from the answer. The story can take any directions, you can even fly, it is like creating a dream while awake but it can go into very personal stuff although it needs to stay visually perceived. Both have to remain connected to the story. AN other ex: you come to hold a box in your hand and the person ask you to open the box and says What do you see? That is the needed constant question; what do you see?
I am not sure if you understand what i am suggesting. It is a sort of an astral projection but also like a flying carpet unfolding as you go. You'll be amazed at the path this CAN take.
A spiritual tennis match...lol
Sounds also like an exercise that could potentially expand your creativity, as well az, your IN-sight! It can be a very hard thing for ONE person to come up with a consistent, comprehensible narrative.
Yeah I get what you are saying its like okay when you dream and stuff in those dreams are answers to questions you have. So like you can make up dreams anytime you want to like daydreaming or something and when you do you can get answers also just from those made up daydreams.. You can even visit different places like anywhere like far out places Now I have not experienced the different dimension stuff though Az but i have heard about it though thats like super advanced stuff if you ask me lol....But okay when you do this with someone else both of you can get answers to each others questions Through Each Other... But its so much its like yeah its Deep but like what you make up in dreams like they can be Reality like whatever you see by focus and visualizing it even though you just made it up its real... Ohh this is so interesting but will pick this up later hopefully Deuces :)
Remember it is a tennis match. So A starts presenting a visual situation then ask a question to B, B answers by adding to the story a little, then from that point A adds to the story until an other question is asked....on and on until perhaps B is brought back to the river.
A is the helper, B is the traveller so with this in mind, A has to listen to it's own feeling of how one can help and not take over.
@Py here is a different kind of "date" you could have with Mrs. Moose. Followed by a neutral massage (all women like that). And then you become B and she A...get a babysitter!
@Az And @ Pysmythe
How Are Ya'll Doing :D
What are you guys over here talking about sounds interesting. Can I listen and learn and ask questions lol? Az you know alot about the third eye and the pineal gland? Okay so I have been looking up alot of things including that and I have come across something about Astral Projections do you know about it too?
@knowledge
I read a little about astral projection when I was much younger, and then just forgot all about it. Then...years later, a musician friend of mine told me about a dream he had one night. He said the dream seemed like it was completely real, and he even used the term astral projection to describe it. For some reason, I was in the dream, and he asked the dream me if this was really happening, and if it was a genuine out-of-body experience. The dream me told him it was, and that it was something that I did ALL THE TIME... Then (he said) I just flew up into the air and disappeared!
@iz
Astral Projection is very powerful and has everything to do with the "similar story i was making allusion to Py", that's why it took me a while to answer you.
Still i can't find the words to describe it.
I believe that the mysterious is not something that can be told justly. The person reading it cannot visualize the imperceptible.
All i can say is that although i do not know what Py experienced i can sympathise with the perplexing aspect of it.
where is the list of flagged words? please, this is annoying!
sorry for being impatient, after sending three comments i realized you were moderating all comments
@Azilda,
No worries. Everything will be published. Be patient. There is no list of words at this moment.
@Az
I don't know why I didn't remember this experience a lot sooner, being it was one of the most profound in my musical life, and that it should be pretty easy to see some connection between it and the purported effects of ancient solfeggio. Maybe it isn't anything more than an example of the power of music, but I'll tell it to you anyway as best as I can and let you decide about that. I'll try to keep it as short as possible, too.
When I went back to Bali in '92, I met a guy on the beach in Sanur, named Ida Bagus Saursana, who was a high-caste Brahmin. He was very sweet-tempered and gentle, and trusting, probably too trusting, to tell you the truth, and in the years since I've hoped others, tourists or natives, haven't taken advantage of that. We struck up a conversation for an hour or so, I guess it was, and before I knew it, he had invited me to come stay with his family for the night in the village of Gianyar, about 20 kilometers north along the coast. He said that that evening there was going to be a ceremony at the temple there that I would probably be interested in seeing. The ceremony was for the spilling of blood on the temple grounds, and was part of an annual festival called Odalan, or founding day, a part of which I'd witnessed on my first visit in '87 in another village, but without the intimate musical component I'll try to relate later on.
I have to pause here a moment and describe something significant about Balinese instruments: There are master craftsmen in various villages around the island who, along with their apprentices, will build from scratch every part of a full gamelan, with the exception of the large gongs, which are imported from Java. And every gamelan orchestra is different from every other, made in some other village by some other group of craftsmen; no two are alike, far less so than, say, two violins made by different luthiers. The bronze bars which comprise the melody instruments are cast and then fashioned by hand into their final form in such a way that, were you to take an instrument from one orchestra and put it into another, the difference would be immediately noticeable to the initiated, and the intended effect of the whole would be lessened. In other words, the entire orchestra is fashioned from the ground up to work as essentially one entity, and individual instruments will not blend correctly with the instruments of other orchestras. Each master also has his own choices for the ratios of his scales, unique to him alone. He shapes all of the scales of the instruments in such a way that there is a very slight "off" between them all, which has the effect of creating a pulse, or a beating or shimmering quality that is very deliberately meant to evoke a holy feeling or a state of meditation or even trance.
A quick word here: If you have only ever heard a recording of gamelan, then you haven't heard it at all. To really have some understanding of its magic, you have to hear it in person, and as close as you can get to it. The notes seem to actually radiate outward from your body as the musicians pound away, and you can feel it in your bones, as if you are in complete harmony with every phrase. It's really quite indescribable, and I wish every music lover could experience it in the flesh.
That evening, after a meal with his wife and child, Ida Bagus gave me a sarong and sash to put on, a requirement for stepping onto the temple grounds, and we walked a short distance up the road from his home-compound to take part in the ceremony. In the temple courtyard was an abbreviated orchestra consisting of only a few instruments of the full gamelan. There were two g'nders, which are similar to xylophones, two trompongs, which are inverted bronze bowls used to mark phrases, and a single drummer, seated, with the drum secured in his lap. As the priest made the blood sacrifice, they began to play a fast, repetitive melody that I remember very well to this day. Without any prompting from me, Ida Bagus leaned over and told me that what they were playing was a "war" theme, suitably violent and intense for the spilling of blood, and it really was.
Then, suddenly, a strange but wonderful thing began to happen to me as I listened to it. Off in the distance in the fading light were the emerald green rice fields, and white, thick smoke was rising from them in different places because of the time of year it was. The chaff of the crops was being burned to make way for the new. Barely seen were the bent backs of the few who remained in the fields to tend the fires. And the combination of the war theme, the smoke, the way the instruments were tuned (and their volume), with that shimmering, pulsing quality I mentioned, began indeed to put me into what I can only call a kind of trance. I almost felt as if I myself were in the middle of a battle! I felt locked into the whole experience completely, with a sense of losing control a little bit, but in an ecstatic, peaceful way that was not at all frightening. But... before it could go as far as it would have, maybe, it was all over, and I came back down to earth, so to speak.
Well, there's not much more to add, and I've gone on too long, already.
What do you think? Could it have been brought about because of the particular way the instruments were tuned, as much as anything else? That absolutely would have been the intention of the instrument maker, to put the listener into a holy state and made susceptible to an altered sense of reality, which is exactly what I believe I felt.
Any thoughts? Does it seem like it could've been a similar thing to the ancient solfeggio to you, or is it just an example of "getting into the beat" especially intensely...whatever that may really mean. I do know I felt rejuvenated afterwards, even "cleansed" in some way, I guess you could say, as if I'd been emptied of something, and was lighter in spirit because of it.
I read your interesting story and am letting it sink in waiting to "hear" what reply gets created within.
Thank you....i have not been to Indonesia...YET
Everything comes to us that belongs to us if we create the capacity to receive it.
From what I can tell about you from these comments, I'm positive they would just love you. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the friends you made there tried to talk you into staying for a while. You seem tied to the earth, but with a great reverence for spiritual things without being ruled over by dogmas, and that, underneath all their rituals, is fundamentally how they are. They would almost instantly respond to you very well, I have no doubt. Furthermore, the entire island is a photographer's paradise!
( I'm speaking about Balinese attitudes here, of course. Regretfully, I can't say I know too much about the rest of Indonesia.)
I did not forget you. I went outside this afternoon to split some firewood for about 1hr thinking this would bring what i want to say, but it didn't.
It'll come.
My similar story is not something i want to tell here. Actually it is not similar in event but it has that something something that only the person who lives it can understand the depth of how one can be touched by an event and not be able to find the words to describe it.
It's fine, take your time. I'm not in a hurry.
I wish you could tell that story, though. Saying something like that is kinda like saying "Hey, you'll never guess what I just heard!...but I said I wouldn't say anything." (lol)
I know what you mean about having a hard time finding the right words...I reread what I wrote, and it comes off seeming very typical...like something we all feel after a few beers and our favorite music on the stereo...and maybe that is all it was. It's a sure thing the endorphins were flowing pretty intensely in me during that experience. I also think that I so love and am susceptible to Balinese culture that I may be guilty of ascribing significance to it that others would find hard to see, unless they had a similar love of it.
( I REALLY love that quote, btw. I forgot to add that yesterday.)
i disagree...i can tell it was profound, but then again, i may see it this way because it reminded me of my own experiences.
I am a visual so the way i have been touched by the mysterious is through my eyes and later associated with my third eye or pineal gland. I know this sounds "new agy" but i have done many experiments with eye gazing and continue to do so.
I am watching Ungrip...a new doc by Ben Stewart...i just suggested it to Valtko
I just found it on Talismanic Idols...I'm watching it, too.
found it on youtube.
Pay attention, i believe they are using the frequencies we were talking about here, he is known for being a believer in ancient solfeggio.
I thought the soundtrack was a little subdued, but I guess that might have been necessary if he was trying to incorporate those frequencies, I don't know. I would think that what's known in music as as a "pedal point" would be more effective for driving home the changes/benefits of A.S., and I don't recall hearing any.
A good doc, all in all, though, but wow...what a whole LOT of legal talk! Several times I found myself wishing I had a lawyer on hand, so I could check him for accuracy!
ola...with all your computer/music equipment, do you have a way to measure what frequencies are used as background sound in the film?
I also checked Shylo Love, she also uses the tuning forks i was talking about previousy (the chinese practice doctor).
I hope @Vlatko post the movie so we can discuss it in the appropriate place...but ya quite interesting concept. Freedom in a whole different way!
ordinaryLEE - 10/07/2011 at 18:37
no wheels is that a joke,,? they went to war in chariots.
hofy doodle - 10/06/2011 at 08:40
I agree with the first 80 minutes, but how on earth did they link it to destruction? That's pure and very daring speculation based on NOTHING.
If it indeed was the case, the ancient civilisation would have been surprised by it and wouldn't have time to build monuments to 'let us know'.
How about they simply wanted to leave a message that they were here? There are ways for a civilisation to perish/vanish, and it needn't be thru a solar apocalypse.
Timmy Jimmy - 10/02/2011 at 18:05
There is a Ton of interesting Stuff in this Doc, But when they wrap it up in to there agenda of promoting more doom and gloom that will not, I Repeat Will Not Effect any of us or our kids or our kids' kids kind of disappointed me.... I give it a 4 out of 5 Stars...
sickoftalk - 09/30/2011 at 15:04
i'm a sucker for animated 3D renderings of archeological sites, nicely done! i don't really agree on the conclusion, why is it allways mayhem and destruction? maybe "they" just want to impress us, and the only way to make these monuments last is to build them the way they did. and: where's a site like stonehenge in this picture? it doesn't align so we just dropped it?
jpquick2 - 09/29/2011 at 02:49
OOOO, look out kiddies! 2012 is very near. Hope those Mayans were wrong.
What a pile of s***. I agree with the French person (archeologist?) who talked about taking any object, a stool perhaps, and start spending all your free time obsessing about it's measurements and and trying to find some kind of meaning in the numbers. The harder and longer you look, the more you find. As far as I'm concerned the big news here is that the Egyptians knew alot more geometry than anyone had previously known. At-a-boy Egyptians! When it came to Pharaohs and their final resting places, those guys were totally engaged. If you have enough manpower you can get a Giza pyramid in 20 years, no problem. Some slaves might have been used but the bulk of the carving was done by professionals hired by the temple priests. A city of sorts has been discovered near the great pyramids. It housed the skilled workers of which I believe there were a great many.
toutmosis - 10/01/2011 at 07:13
If you have enough man power you can build things with 200 tons blocks that come from 500 miles away that are aligned within a 50th of an inch in a few minutes? Did you notice the blocks on mount Ararat in Turkey that way 2000tons and 1 that's 3000tons left there...We can't carry it, ever...French archeologist? A lot of them are in this documentary. But i can guess you're pointing at the moron with no hair that doesn't have a clue cause you seem to carry the same train of thought... I can guess also that you don't read much but you obviously feel the need to proove you're stupidity to as many people as you can... American right?
Bobby Smith Jr - 09/24/2011 at 16:14
Man-made stones break in lines and natural stones CAN break in circular fashion, in addition, those are those lucky strikes that break half of a circle out of a square stones, furthermore a 60 year old slave that has been carving stone every day, all day long, for 48 years has an extremely acute talent, also the whole population had nothing better to do than make statues and, in fact, were forced to do so,making it a very acceptable theory that these objects were carved in primitive fashion by the egyptian slave population.
Karen Rose - 09/21/2011 at 02:56
What a wonderful surprise! One gets so used to a diet academic bullshit, it makes a great and welcome change to watch an intelligent viewpoint that hasn't curved in all the answers to fit academias delusions
I liked this documentary a lot. great presentation. this is hugely different from most documentaries about ancient egypt, as it at least attempts to answer some questions (or at least bring up very interesting points) rather then just leave it a mystery and end there. I also found it gratifying that they did make mention of the secret knowledge/ ancient geometry aspects of the subject but stopped before anyone could even think of miscrediting this documentary on that basis. one of the best docs i've seen in a while, strongly recommend.
Stevan Ivkovi? - 09/19/2011 at 07:22
wow, never saw more skeptics in one place than in the comments section in here... geez people, think open mind a bit ffs...
cheese81 - 09/13/2011 at 02:10
Daniel Jones - 09/11/2011 at 04:57
@Pysmythe
Well the answer is easier to explain than you might think. In the past, probably even more so than today, more than 3/4 of the population lived by the sea. Rising sea levels at the end of the last ice age swallowed up vast populated areas all over the world. We don't even need a pole shift to account for most of the losses.
Proof...Let's see. It's not really possible to prove anything but some have tried..Graham Hancock's series of programs "Underworld" deals with many sites - like 2 huge cities in the Indian Ocean - but there are loads of them.
"Forbidden Archaeology" by Michael Cremo is enough to put fear in the heart of mainstream historians. I can't recommend this weighty tome of referenced/crossed referenced to the point of absurdity archaeological revisionism enough. It is the master work in the field. A collection of thousands and thousands of documented "ooparts" (out of place artifacts). You can google this easily enough to find if you're really interested. It's a mind blower of a book and I'm not easily impressed. Stuff like stitched sole boot print fossils, gold chains found in lumps of coal -it goes on and on and has so many references and sources that they came out with an edited version for non academics. Mint.
And this is another amazingly academic one - "When the Earth Nearly Died: Compelling Evidence of a Catastrophic World Change 9500 B.C" by Allan & Delair. It's another extremely well referenced work that provides ample food for thought.
But if you're the type that can dismiss ancient primitives shifting the equivalent of Boeing 747's and carting them miles before using them like legos as par for the course then these meagre offerings may not suffice.
Personally I'm not sure who or what came before this Age we live in. But I've spent decades digging. Deeply. I'm certain of one thing only. The official version of just about everything never stands up to serious investigation.
Thanks. I'll look into all of those, starting tonight.
The mysteries out there do fascinate me a very great deal. But I tend to get annoyed when I suspect researchers are embroidering things for the sake of a buck, and probably even more annoyed to see so many these days with such a pitiful lack of critical thinking that they're willing to believe almost anything they're told.
Maybe these will prove different, but it would require extraordinary evidence for the extraordinary claim that a technological civilisation existed long ago more advanced than this one, and was subsequently wiped off the face of the earth leaving not a trace that can be substantiated.
Not, at least, that I've seen as of yet.
Thanks again for the leads.
@ Pysmythe
I sincerely hope you find them worthy. The books in particular are personal treasures of mine.
One p.s. though...when I say more advanced than we are I'm not necessarily using the modern yardstick. I suspect a technology based on implosion rather than explosion and a practical understanding of subtle electromagnetic energies - things like earth currents and such. Oh, and restricted knowledge of high spin platinum group metals which we're just rediscovering now. But I digress and get into deeper waters lol.
any change?
No, I'm afraid Daniel's books look like complete pseudoscience to me, especially "When the Earth Nearly Died," but...I gave it a shot.
( I'm assuming you were addressing me. )
Just checking if you actually read them. "Looks like..." worries me a bit. Even a cursory glance at comments in Amazon will tell you that they are both extremely intellectual, cross referenced and highly challenging to the status quo Uniformitarian world view. There will always be detractors and hit men for such things but the overwhelming consensus is 5 star. Only an actual read will give you the chance to see for yourself though.
If you've read them then we can only agree to differ in our opinions :-)
Kurt Luzny - 11/15/2012 at 15:50
Thank you for this valuable information. I've downloaded the two book sources.
Hey @Vlatko...soon you'll be the most active member...lol!
Vexing81 - 09/10/2011 at 10:41
The progression of pyramid building pretty much blows this whole idea out of the water. The earliest pyramids built were simple, such as the original step pyramid designed by Imhotep. Over a couple of centuries techniques were mastered to get ever closer to the 'perfect' pyramid at Giza. These pyramids were occupied by a progression of Pharaohs that we know came one after the other.
Let's say this is all wrong and the pyramids actually were built thousands of years before that and the egyptian Pharaohs just took the monuments as their tombs, as the doc claims. That means that the first Pharaoh to have a pyramid as a tomb, Djoser, had to choose the 'least' impressive monument out of the large array of impressive pyramids including the Great Pyramid. No, he shunned that in favour of the far less wondrous basic step pyramid. Then the next chose the next least impressive and so on and so forth up to the time that Cheops chose to take the Great Pyramid as his tomb.
However...If the Great pyramids are actually much older than accepted by mainstream, 10,500 bc being the star map depicted in stone with the sphinx facing the rising of Leo at the vernal equinox, then Djoser's wonky pyramid is exposed for what it is - a much later failed attempt to replicate the ancestors. The same can be said for Inca works which were trifles compared to earlier attempts. (Do research the conventional dating of the Giza pyramids. It's circumstantial evidence to say the least)
It is a fact that the older you go back the heavier the megalithic stones become all over the world. 400 ton stones used in Tehuanaco, and the megalithic site of Baalbeck in Lebanon has 1200 ton stones used as a raised platform that later Phonecians, then Greeks, then Romans built upon afterwards. The site was ancient before the Phonecians for christ's sake. The largest stone in even the Great pyramid is 100 tons with 10 ton casing blocks. We can't shift 1200 ton stones today period.
Baalbeck is the building 7 of megalithic architecture even though more people know of the pyramids alas.
Uniformitarianism and Darwinism don't leave room for the catastrophisms required to bury earlier technologically advanced civilisations on Earth - but considering the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, it's time we woke from our slumbers and realised we are not currently the most advanced we have ever been. Perhaps we will value our lives and the planet that much more when we realise she is able to shrug us off like fleas every now and then :-)
Here's someone who can say it better than me!
Lemme guess... Atlantis, right? Or Mu? Or aliens...?
You string together a pretty enough pile of sentences, I'll grant you, but upon a closer look, even a cursory look, I believe I can guarantee anyone this idea of a preceding civilisation technologically in advance of this one will turn out to lack all substance. And that will not have been due to some catastrophe, or series of catastrophes, that conveniently wiped out all traces of them anywhere, either. The consensus is that a worldwide event caused the extinction of the majority of dinosaur species, and after 65 million years we still have plenty of evidence they were here, buried much deeper in the record of the earth than any human civilisation possibly could be.
So where is the evidence of these things? Just how catastrophic would such an event or events have to be to so completely obliterate all traces of these things that not even the dust remains to be seen? Was it, perhaps, an ancient atomic war?
I'm not talking about the manipulation of some large rocks, or a Bimini wall here and there, either. Or Baalbek, which wasn't even finished. I'm talking about any clear evidence of a civilisation technologically in advance of this one.
And don't get the idea that such things threaten me or my worldview, either, in some way. I have no god(s) and no politics, and no science, to defend, or any such thing. I am simply talking about FACTS/EVIDENCE alone.
If you have anything really substantial, I'll be more than happy to modify the views I have right now.
Let me comment on this:
You ask for evidence of a civilisation technologically in advance of us.
How about I tell you that if OUR civilisation perished tomorrow, there would be absolutely no trace left of our technology in less then 10 000 years from now.
@hofy doodle
And how do you know that? Remember, the dinosaurs died out (except for birds) 65 million years ago, and there are all kinds of traces of their existence. The Titanic sank 98 years ago, and in 250,000 years, there will still be large rust deposits on the sea-floor giving some indication of what was there at one time. Even more significantly, satellites in orbit above 1,000 miles can stay in orbit for thousands of years, and orbital crash debris from them will remain evident for many times that... Specifically, for well over 10,000 years. Barring some lunar event, Armstrong's footprints (in addition to the equipment left there) will remain pristine in the Sea of Tranquility for millions of years.
( There are also time-capsules the world over that could easily withstand the wear and tear of 10,000 years, were some catastrophe to occur tomorrow, many of which contain technology, or clear references to it. )
slack63 - 09/10/2011 at 09:14
fascinating documentary , the connections over time and distance in the construction practices and in their astrological placements is truly something to investigate . it seems too coincidental to be just that , coincidence . some higher power or extra terrestrial forces must have had involvement in the archetecture of these places.
or...it is founded upon basic math principals that start from the simple 2+2=4 type foundations and slowly growing into more complex equations. It could be a progression in the study of mathematics that is logical and universal in scope and would not need meta-physical or extra-terrestrial interference. In other words, they were very intelligent human beings who learned how to build using the universal laws of mathematics. Laws that are the same everywhere, no matter what year or where the location.
anyone noticed how the sphinx has small head in realtion to body... not just is it smaller but is more detailed and somewhat different colour... i find it hard to believe that in civilisation where everything is so precisely build and always in right ratio, can something that awkward be built on purpose... my theory is that the head is carved much more later than the body, and that the body belongs to a different creature, and the head is carved later because of degradation of the monument or sth like that (maybe a pharaoh wanted his head on the body of a lion) while all other sphinx (smaller) are all proportionate...
any comments or thoughts
Fettot - 09/10/2011 at 16:02
And you can see the stones surrounding the Sphinx. They have obviously been exposed to the long and winding tear of water and there was no water there during the pharao's era in Egypt. The sphinx may have been built a lot earlier and then the egyptians carved a human face on the existing face of a lion. The head of the sphinx is really disproportionately small compared to the rest of the body.
Just got out of a long relaxing time in the hottub where i was thinking about your question. What you are asking me to do is the same as what the makers of this film did in people's opinion. No one, me included, can say what the pyramid was. Of course i could write one or two assumptions but what would people make of it? Some would like it and some would not, just as with this doc.
I am not a scientist or an alien although some have thought and said that sometimes i behave rather strangely, i make strange decisions, i live in a strange way, i say strange things, i love strange men. "Strange" (and gone most of the time) is my department in people's opinion but people have gotten used to my ways, specially the special ones (in my personal life).
Frankly if you ask me i'd say i am swimming in simplicity.
I am a line(alien...lol) with a dot on it, i
Life is a game and i play it as such. That's why being here at TDF is right up my alley. This is a reality show ain't it? lolololol
What would i like the pyramid to have been or what do i think we should do with the pyramid in the future (Lucas inspiration)....could be answered this way.
I see the pyramid as having represented a human being
(pi is appropriate). The above ground-line representing the physical appearance and the under with it's tunnels and chambers representing the energetic self and the mind. If this is possible then it directs me to think that perhaps the building was used as a ceremonial structure for the passing to enlightment. If this is possible it makes me hopeful to think that at one time a civilisation of high energetic power lived on earth...who ever they were, from where ever they came, apes or apex(probable in this situation).
What i think the pyramid could be for the future generation?
Open entirely, and not turned into a shopping mall...lol, sorry here.
I'll let Lucas make the film and i'll work as his Craft Person in the kitchen trailer, best place to hear all the stories!
If i go from the angle that life is more mysterious than the word mysterious conveys...then the pyramid will find it's own use. It has been hit by the most powerful energy, all coming from the stars, galaxies and heavens to it's point.
I say let's put the cap on, might be an old kind of antenna!
Gold at one time? would have been nice!
an inverted V underneath? Would sure be hard to have proven, try to take the sand away from a pointing structure.
Age: very very very old.
Ouf! did i pass Teachers?
One thing I can say about you is that you do not lack for imagination and the fecund production of multilayered titillating remarks! You say you are swimming in simplicity: I both believe that, and don't believe it for a moment. I admit I'm deliciously confused, and swimming in a warm bath of my own right now, fully relaxed, and ready to slide out of it onto the floor, a wet noodle of middle-age and lowered blood-pressure.
This is what your words do to me!
... --- ... (Morse code!)
Coming back into focus, I think some of the people here took my remarks to mean I don't think what the Egyptians did was especially impressive, and nothing could be further from the truth, from an engineering standpoint and the standpoint of its possible meaning. And I could easily see the Giza pyramid as being symbolic (or a ceremonial structure...) of the journey to enlightenment. In this respect, from the interpretation of it as a symbol, it may be difficult to view it any other way: Among other interpretations, you might say that you have many different views, represented by the base (the width and breadth of the world, and all the various knowledge and experience throughout its four corners), leading up to the pinnacle of some intensely focused esoteric learning that has gradually converged and united them all.
But one of the things overlooked in all these comments (and the documentary) is that one of the reasons pyramid building was so prominent among widely scattered ancient peoples is because the pyramid is actually one of the easiest shapes of large structure to construct with limited technology, and I think it's important to bear that in mind. But that's not to belittle the achievement in any way; if for no other reason, the sheer size of the thing precludes that. And the Sphinx may be an equally great accomplishment, seen from that understanding, depending on when it may actually have been built.
Again, who knows?
But I think I'll look into some of the websites you put up earlier for someone else, just to get a fuller view of it.
Thanks for answering my questions. I give you an A+, for Az, and an "i" for "incomplete"! ( Incomplete intended to be interpreted only symbolically, of course. You are, after all, still a Student! )
[ Az am I. ]
@py
up 4:25am.
Couln't wait to see! lol... and the cat just went for a piss in her box, i thought she was trying to go under by the way she was digging. Has she been listening to me talk about pyramids? This is my last day in this quiet little heaven in the woods, i will be heading for the hills of Nelson later on. May be an other even better place in the making, friends are off on vacaiton for a week and need a caretaker. Who needs to own a gorgious house when you can visit many a year? I am like a hotel chain owner! lol
i ncomplete is right...if i had try to make it complete i would still be wondering what to write. I play with words since i don't really know how to use them in the proper kind of way. I don't even have a high school degree although they kept me there until the end of grade 12, my degree is my five passports (old ones included).
I like your symbolic description of possibilities....and... Right!, a pyramid was really easy to build in those days...they built them all over the world. What strikes me is that Giza is the "only one" built with such perfection (and we haven't been showed that it was explored fully yet), could it have been the model for the others?
"20 yrs to make" is bull sh*te to the cowboy that i am, but i'm a poor rider so may be i fell face first in it and never realized it was my own poo. It does smell kind of funny though even to me!
I give you a P+ for possible and a Y+ for the y of i...the why of i, a question everyone has at one time or an other about oneself.
you'll have to be patient, my words were send to the office! In fact you may have to be real patient, it appears like they are vacuuming the whole floor right now up there. Showers of doc coming down here!
I was in no way impolite but i did use the brown word in a joke (that would be me), may be it has been banned as of late.
take care and get ready for an other portion of my soup!
You use words in a very fine, very original and imaginative way; even though they're English, they appear to be great friends of yours! I can only imagine, for those whose mother-tongue it is, what a feast it must be to hear you speak French... And you're right, you are a little "strange," it seems, but only in the most beautiful, appealing ways. Your passion for things is very, very evident, and draws people (me) to you.
I'm trying to find very specific info this morning on the time it took to construct Giza, and not having a lot of initial luck... The Wiki article (usually only a jumping point for me, if even that) mentions some chap who maintains the whole thing was racked up over a span of only 14 years! That, I'm pretty positive I don't believe... But there are a few links at the bottom of the article that might be worth checking out a little, before maybe hunting down something more substantial.
If I find anything really out of the ordinary that I'm sure you'd be interested in, I'll let you know.
( Pet the kitty for me! )
Did you ever come across some of the poems i posted in my earlier days here....until Vlatko's poetic side politely asked me to stop?
By the way he asked Oz the same.
That's when i started to write poetry between my other words.
Apparently this was prefered by most!
I must admit sometimes i have a strong urge to lay my pie of poetic words bare naked.....lol
Sorry it took so long... It being Saturday, I fell back asleep for a while.
Yes, I saw many of your poems! I can honestly say that it was reading your stuff (and Oz's and Achems') that made me want to start participating more than anyone else's. But I guess it was several months before I finally did.
( However you want to lay out your words, I'll be there to take a look, lol. )
skyedon - 09/21/2011 at 10:15
The one pyramid (Great pyramid at Giza) for which we do have internal structure details depicts the mechanism via which the inhabitants are shielded in the event of cataclysmic drowning of the pyramid in a tsunami while its pyramidal shape helping keep its integrity in an accompanying earthquake.
@ Az & @ Pysmythe,
You are both truly wonderful people & your civilized & inspirational conversation here is a part of why I see you both that way :)!
guess who gave the first two thumbs up!
Lol. ( For the moment, before I click the reload option, I'm right here in the middle of you two... How pleasant! )
If you don't mind saying it straight out, and completely, and exposing yourself to what MIGHT follow (but not from me), what do you, personally, think the significance of the Great Pyramid is? What, I mean, was it's actual purpose, if not a tomb? Who, maybe, do you think really built it, and when? Just...from everything you know, and from what your gut tells you, what IS the Great Pyramid, really?
I will ponder on my response but i am going for lunch at my daughter's and i have to clean the house where i am caretaking beccause the people are coming back tomorrow. Vacuum, dust, laundry ect..the place is not dirty (it's a very very beautiful house), i barely moved away from the computer while i was here. Did you noticed?
Yep...lol.
Charlie Doh - 09/09/2011 at 11:06
its pretty grim at the end. Ha ha POO yard
Aleister Crowley - 09/09/2011 at 04:52
There is nothing far fetched about any of this. Ancient cultures were much more technically advanced than we perceive. There are even more similarities between pyramids that they show in this documentary. Mainstream archaeologists don't like it whenever anyone challenges the status quo and they do their best to suppress evidence that contradicts it. They are just now finally starting to recognize the Bosnian pyramids after they've spent years branding their discoverer as a fraud and a kook. Personally, I believe we had an advanced (not as advanced as today) civilization here prior to the last cataclysmic climate shift.
@Aleister Crowley (< I so enjoyed writing that, lol)
Would that be Mu?
European Art - 09/09/2011 at 03:05
The age of the pyrmid expressed in this documentary as 4,700 years or 2,700BC is incorrect. The age of the pyramids has recently been dated to 10,500BC or 12,500 years ago. The new age of the pyramids was determined by the age of the Sphinx, whose base has been weathered by water. The Sphinx was built to recognize the transition either from or to the sign LEO which occurred around 10,500BC (12,500 years ago). For more information learn more about the procession of the equinox.
Around 10,000BC an asteroid swarm struck the Earth. One such asteroid either struck or exploded above the North American continent wiping out the large animals that lived there at the time including horses, cammels, saber tooth tigers and the wholly mammoths. The earliest human settlers were also wiped out.
Another piece of asteroid struck the Atlantic ocean which resulted in a huge ocean wave that swept through Egypt and rose the sea level to approximately half the height of the great pyramid. Sea salt residue has been found inside the great pyramid walls confirming this catastrophic flooding event in 10,000BC.
Around the world cultures created stories that recorded this massive flooding event that appraently decimated the advanced Egyptian culture living at the time.
So the age of the pyramids is NOT 4,700 years old but rather 12,500 years old which makes them even more amazing!
The pyramids DO NOT belong to any of the Egyptian dynasties from 3,000BC onward. This is incorrect information that has been known for some time.
The accomplishments in building the pyramids shows that mankind has been advanced for quite some time and that we are just catching up.
Other recent evidence with regards to the pyramids has revealed an internal corridor to move the blocks to the next level. That the Egyptians were well aware of the circle and used two half moons made of wood to encase a pyramid block to roll it into place. The Hollywood example of pyramid stones being moved by sleds is completely wrong based on this new evidence.
A Parisian architect spent several years building the pyramids from scratch to determine how they were built and why. His findings have now been proven and are documented in a recent Pyramid documentary dated 2009 or 2010.
You mean they are willing to give us that much; 12,500. This would make it coincide with agriculture. If they could build such amazing structure by then, it would mean that agriculture was long existing already...are we shuffling cards?
What we may be finding out (or know already) Giza is not aged as agreed by science and perhaps nothing "old" is either.
@European Art
Where did you find this information?
we are in the waiting mode
Charles Alderson - 09/08/2011 at 21:33
Fun doc! Agreeing with it or not doesn't really matter. It was just fun and interesting to watch. No "breakthroughs" but more like a compilation of many other docs on this site.
I dunno if it's weird or not but I think I spent much more time on AZ's Myspace page after I clicked her profile than I did watching this doc. Nice pictures :)
No breakthroughs but may be a breakdown or two...lol!
@Charles Alderson
Yeah it was thought provoking. I felt as if my life was a giant barren desert though. Like I haven't done anything in comparison. To imagine that someone who could be just as intellectual as me has came to live the exact opposite lifestyle as me sorta gives you some hope that maybe life isn't as dismal as I make it out to be. But then again I'm American and she is Canadian so there is so much more for me to hate about life than for her.
I know exactly what you mean...especially the part about being an American (these days, a least).*
If I could still afford to, I'd travel a lot more like I did when I was younger and things were easier financially. But that does have its upside: I have a house full of kids I love. Maybe when they're on their own, if we're still around, the wife and I will be able to see some of the places Az, and Vlatko, have. When I was in my late teens and in college, I thought very seriously about becoming a cultural anthropologist, but got sidetracked when I took a year off from school to travel overseas and, between one thing and another, never managed to regain my momentum... Mostly, the job I had when I got back (actually the same one I had when I left...) became comfortable enough for me to just keep putting off finishing my education.
Ironic, isn't it? I've always rather regretted it, but I wouldn't want to complain too much. And, anyway, like a lot of people on this site would probably agree with, I don't think you necessarily need a degree, or a lot of travel, to prove your intellectual vitality or creativity. Like everyone, I suppose, I've seen a lot of posts all over the internet, but I haven't found anywhere else nearly the generally high level of discussion I've found here. Even if I don't always agree with people, I have a lot of respect for the brainpower manifested daily on this site, and look on all of it as a challenge to bring out what I consider the best in myself to be, and even though I've never succeeded at it, I intend to keep trying to get to it.
* Incidentally, did you see any of that travesty of a debate last night?
Missed it. Hate watching TV except Trueblood or Torchwood.
+1 to your whole last paragraph. I've been watching these docs here forever and just never wanted to talk. The people seem so intriguing that I just had to though! Az has been by far my favorite personality and clicking her myspace just added to the fascination.
Be wary of "Az fascination"! I know where you're coming from, and you may have a bit of a hard time shaking it off.
(lol)
( Looking forward to hearing more from you, too. )
I do too.
Immerse yourself in your Self
Self importance doesn't hurt anyone
Morten Andreassen - 09/08/2011 at 19:23
introductions a bit short innit??
I just finished re-reading most of the comments here.
I also just finished watching again the last section 7.
I also went looking to the credits.
credits include: With the participation of
Musee National d'Histoire Naturelle
Academie Francaise
The end of section 7
says and repeats several time the words: could, may be, no one knows why, we cannot know
.many thousands years ago a sophisticated civilization lived on our planet
.many scientists and archeologists will dismiss them out of hand
.this is a message from the past we should take seriously
.the great pyramd of Giza has a message for us all
When a doc is made, it is left to the ones who are making the doc to decide what the last words will be, not to the scientists who participated. Why would the unknown scientist participate and not want to be named? Perhaps he didn't like the ending and asked to be removed which would still allow them to use his findings.
The most important point in this doc is the appearance of evidence that the Pyramid of GIZA (not the others) and the Sphinx and the old city of Cuzco and Sacsayhuaman were not built when as claimed by science. This would have a huge impact on ALL HISTORY and our belief (or education) that pre-ancient population were only a bunch of cave dwellers.
Imagine all the books we would have to burn, what a fire that would be!
Burning man alright!
All of us are free to think what we want, write what we want, and go to Egypt if we want.
I don't see bullshit here, but i am no bull and obviously i am no scientist, how would i recognize it?
Does anyone know what the dial is on the ceiling at 9:16 on #7"?
There is a saying i came up with:
If you show a cowboy a full pie of bullshit, he most likely will recognize it as bullshit, but if you give him a spoonful, he may not realize it's his own cowboy dung.
changing it makes the saying even cuter!
edit: make sure you don't give anyone a piece of that kind of pie, apples are so much better! lol
tomregit - 09/09/2011 at 06:35
Cute Az, but bulls don't shit turds. Like cows, they shit pies. Horses, dogs, cats, people, etc shit turds....but bulls??
;0) I know, I know, it's just semantics.
@tomregit
thanks for the tip top! i will change it. But une "tarte de merde de taureau" sounds really funny in French, specially when i was talking about making an apple pie this morning for a friend who is soon visiting from the coast.
I like your revised saying even better! I live on the coast and I love apple pie. Wish it was me visiting. No one made better apple pie than my dear departed mom. The secret: cinnamon (lots of it).
With apologies to Vlatko, waaaay off topic here. sorry.
Lord_Kral - 09/08/2011 at 11:18
Snazzy and well produced. Too bad the content wasn't as compelling. Great fun tho!
Evan Kress - 09/08/2011 at 08:14
This doc starts out good but then makes so many ridiculous logical leaps that I found the last half almost unwatchable... The way they draw a "message" from a former civilization may as well have been recited by Jeff Goldblum's portrayal in the South Park episode "Chaos Theory".
ER_stressed - 09/08/2011 at 07:46
This documentary is an indulgence for the skeptic mind, like a oversized pizza on a low calory diet. You know you should´t have it, but still it is a delight.
I am quiet a fan of fiction science, rather than science fiction, always a good choice for a late night. It can´t get better than piramids and alliens, they missed a link with Atlantis, I am sure there was pyramids over there. That would have been awesome.
I wish I could use the "whatever remains must be the truth" in my research. I would have had many Nature magazine publications haha.
I salute you ancient alliens. Please share with us the cure to Alzheimer, I think you must have cured iy. You are quite old and still visiting us very often.
Now seriously I have to go back to work.
Lol. I might be coming in for triage later from an overdose of bullshit, myself.
Olivia S - 09/08/2011 at 07:05
Good doc. A little bit "fox news"-ish. Asks a lot of questions but draws no conclusions.
RakeFace - 09/08/2011 at 12:24
"Draws no conclusions" actually sounds right. +1
I know there's more unpresentable "glue" to the story, and it isn't simple. I actually thought this was tasteful.
E - mc² - 09/09/2011 at 00:28
That's a good thing. They're not trying to convey a theory or opinion. they're just laying the evidence there and letting you come to your own confusion.
Achems_Razor - 09/08/2011 at 04:26
Tried to watch all of it, they kept saying, is the work the hand of god? Seems to me more religious mumbo-jumbo. Creationists probably. And heard the word "experts" about 350 times, And of course the whole study probably was leading to "Aliens" which actually makes more sense than "the hand of god" thing. Some parts were not bad, but just take-offs from stuff already known. The math? right, you could read math into anything on this planet and beyond. I give it 2 out of 10.
first comment: Good Stuff, love the pyramid docs
2 out 10
Not enough pyramids for you?
Les experts is often used in French in lieu of scientists, may be they used the direct translation. Most docs with a bunch of scientists will use this word A LOT, same as in English.
Interesting that the math comes to the golden ratio, are there many similar situation you know of?
The great pyramid is said to have been covered with gold at one time.
Not enough pyramids for me? no never enough, but looking for original stuff, without supernatural BS or Aliens, Aliens and more Aliens, from the "Pleiades", the seven sisters star cluster, in the constellation of Taurus, or wherever. Although have to admit the Aliens thing might be a "very, very" remote possibility.
Like to know more original aspects such what type of engineering the ancients used etc: Or even a guess for such, instead of just a picture of a round stone and chisel.
The math you say? the golden ratio is represented everywhere, by for one thing the "Mandelbrot set" which goes to infinity in math, but the Mandelbrot set is also represented in Nature on Earth and the universe as a whole. And is characterized by PHI the circle, and triangle, and spirals, also works well in conjunction with the Fibonacci numbers.
my question about the Golden mean was more precisely:
Interesting that the math comes to the golden ratio, are there many similar situations where man used the Golden ratio in ancient time?
Yes, man used the golden ratio in most things, in art per. Leonardo DaVinci, the Greeks per. the Parthenon, etc: etc: used in most antiquity further down the line.
Will give you some simple math on the golden ratio...The division of a line segment "a" into two parts of a which "x" is the mean proportional between the whole segment "a" and the smaller part a=x: (a-x) to find x, one has to solve a quadratic equation...x^2+ax-a^2=0
I know about Da Vinci, the Greeks, the Parthenon, Fibonacci...i meant older, way older. Further down the line where?
thanks for the simple math
C Ashley - 09/08/2011 at 04:15
I started learning about all this 3 years ago, focusing on smaller but more indepth pieces of the puzzle, so I can see why some of this seems overwhelming and/or outrageous to many of you. Every ancient civilization has creation stories of gods who came from the sky that taught and helped them build civilization, mathematics, etc. Henry Lincoln does an excellent documentary on Rennes le Chateau, showing the geometry of ancient church sites fixed within ley lines and triangle shapes all over Europe, and Jay Weidner's documentary on a fantastic message that's encoded within "The Great Cross of Hendaye," which is about Achemy and our DNA. Fascinating stuff and so detailed. I recommend all to watch those two documentaries. After you start seeing how all this links together, you start to understand how severely the truth has been withheld, and how many lies we've been told, not that I know even half of it, but it's a good start I believe.
the first part is promising but afterwards the theme dissipates and the form becomes fairly confusing
Alexander Heckl - 09/08/2011 at 01:22
Very interesting topic, but after all, who really knows..? Good theory and i would prefer this one to the official one. Lets you dream and hope a bit :)
thank you for upload.
mailtojaycee - 09/08/2011 at 00:16
I found this documentary hard to follow, the accompanying music was fine at first but then it got WAY out of hand. When I then turned the volume down I could barely hear the commentary!! I don't mind it when music quietly compliments a programme, but this was too much! Aside from that, very interesting subject matter though.
sosays - 09/07/2011 at 23:08
There's a good documentary film to be made. Sadly, this isn't it.
ionut petrescu - 09/07/2011 at 23:23
POZZIMYSTIC - 09/08/2011 at 03:51
Khentimentiu Mensah - 09/07/2011 at 22:32
If you want to see more check out Carl Munck, The Code.
He has some books and websites and there is a 2hour video on Utube
dchayden - 09/07/2011 at 22:23
The way I see it...the world will end for me when I have a heart attack, or get hit by a car, or when my plane goes down in flames...I needn't worry about "the end of the world," as we all have our own end...as the world (as we know it) will surely end when we ourselves die. So I choose to be thankful and try my best to enjoy life and keep the stress low :) These "end of the world" ideas have merit, only in the fact that someday perhaps the world will go through a cycle of death , birth , and renewal...who knows, but it is as natural as our own birth, so why let it consume you with fear :/ ... Why do we feel terror at the possibility, when tomorrow the world will definitely end for countless ppl from all walks of life, could even be me. I guess everything depends on how we as individuals "interpret" the world around us. That's my rant on the "freaky weird ending of this documentary, that seems to want to scare the be-jesus out of some poor closed minded individuals watching it. Great comments btw ...a lot of good points shared!
JustCauseItsInDocForm - 09/07/2011 at 17:56
This doc is quite sad but also very comedic. Made by the glib for the glib. I only kept watching it because it was making me laugh out loud. I love how they just left out most facts around any matter they discussed, either because they are ignorant to the facts or because it doesn't fit their agenda. My favorite part has to be where they show a line on earth and list a bunch of ancient monuments/buildings and declare that they exist along a line because they were all built by the same ancient civilization. Yes, if you only look at stuff along a line, then it only exists along a line. To mention just ONE example, what about all the pyramids in the Yucatan? That didn't fit the line.... so they just don't talk about it, hahaha.
Furthermore, how does building along a line prove ANYTHING let alone far out ideas like this?
Also on the "line of proof" part the doc mentions -- as if it is standard fact -- that the Dagoon Tribe lives along the line and that even though they aren't building/monument they knew of Sirius B so they fit in the conspiracy. Hahaha, that tribes knowledge is controversial at best and at worst the tribe has flat out stated it learned that from the first astronomers that visited them! Yet simple and mostly uneducated people keep insisting that it is not likely they met astronomers (which is documented fact people, admitted by the tribe - ignorace is bliss I guess) therefore Aliens/conspiracy is the only logical solution.
I guarantee that the maker of this doc IS the "anonymous researcher" and that he also reads about and fully believes in David Icke's tales of shape shifting reptilian overlords. Hahaha. Laughing is all you can do.
I had commented about Hancock and Childress in one of my posts but I didn't have the nerve to mention Icke. He is out there farther than anyone I can think of.
Hi JustCauseItsInDocForm,
I must say that the line leaves out a lot of other ancient sites that we consider held significance for people who built them.
But you mention the Dogon tribe, I really find them an interesting phenomenon. I think that you overstate your argument about the tribe admitting outright that they were told about the existence of Sirius B by the astronomers who, indeed, visited them in 1893 (they were there for a different reason, not specifically to pay a visit to the tribe). For that outright confession of theirs I would rather get a solid reference from you.
The Dogon considered Sirius a trinary star system of which modern astronomers have some indications but are not able to confirm it as of yet. I don't mean to sound offensive, but I would hold laughing until that is confirmed (or not for that matter).
P.S. Sorry for the edit (hold laughing instead of keep laughing in the last paragraph).
equidae - 09/07/2011 at 22:06
You go girl, or dude. Although as for the Dogon recieving their information from a modern or at least western astronomer, this has only been shown to be circumstantially possible. Personally I find it more likely.
As to the line they draw, it's really quite simple, if your looking for simple answers and not unsupportable conspiratorial bullshit. Their all located on or near the equator, and thus all have comparatively long growing seasons. Longer growing seasons means these cultures can produce more food in a year, and thus support a larger population, and larger more technically advanced industries.
Very well said, it's all circumstantial and am surprised that JKIDF would put it as an unquestionable fact.
As Psinet rightly stated in one of his comments below to someone else:
"I would say that such a comment makes everything you believe and argue, completely dismissable, based on that alone."
Don't appropriate my statements and pretend they are in support of your delusions. While it maybe circumstantial, the alternative this doc puts forth, that their knowledge is in some way derived from Egypt or some other group could never be described so charitably.
To dismiss in it's entirety everything JKIDF wrote based on the alleged inaccuracy of a single statement is ridiculous. Nowhere does he claim it to be an unquestionable fact, though WTC7 you are clearly enough of a sophist to claim he made such a claim.
You have been as the children these days say, pwned.
I know exactly what I did and I know exactly in support of whose delusion your comment was. Don't insult your intelligence by explaining it to me, please. But if you have problem with my comment, please report it to the moderators. Although I don't think I have violated any rule here by using your comment for my own purpose. Have I, equidae?
There are ways of stating things that one may not know to be facts. JCIDF quite explicitly said that the Dogon got the information from the visiting astronomers and even called people who don't accept it ignorant. He states: "(which is documented fact people, admitted by the tribe - ignorace is bliss I guess)". How much more factual do you want it to be?
Understanding the citation I used, very purposefully too, which you refer to, would require a bit closer follow up of the discussion here and my explaining it display of a bit less hostility on your part.
Again do not presume I'll allow you to put words in my mouth. At no point did I accuse you of violating a rule. You nonetheless insisted upon misconstruing my comments and claiming them as support for your own biases. Yet at no point did I state any such support, and any failing to understand my statements is upon those who make such misconstructions.
The citation you used "I would say that such a comment makes everything you believe and argue, completely dismissable, based on that alone." Serves as nothing more than a blanket dismissal of everything stated by JCIDF, this is obvious to anyone with even a elementary level of English comprehension, as it would require the portion stating, "such a comment makes everything you believe and argue, completely dismissable " to be defined completely differently in order to mean otherwise.
As for JCIDF's own statements, "that tribes knowledge is controversial at best and at worst the tribe has flat out stated it learned that from the first astronomers that visited them!" Refutes your own assertions, while his sentiments clearly hew to the latter. And furthermore the fact that Sirius is not visible to the unaided eye, that one of originators of the claims of Dogon knowledge, Robert Temple had contact with only one member of the tribe and an interpreter makes the claims more incredulous and only still more so in light of the Temple's own publicized biases. Considering that the Dogon themselves do not wholly agree on the interpetations of some of their myths or what stars are represented in them, makes the claims themselves nigh impossible to swallow.
Maciej - 09/07/2011 at 22:34
Laughing is all an ignorant can do...but at least it is healthy for you.
Build me a similar structure and try to have a laugh after.
Considering the decades of labor undertaken by thousands of laborers, I doubt he'd be alive to do so. And if he somehow were able to, you would fully deserve every derisive chuckle as you've declared him ignorant, yet cannot produce a single empirical notion that supports the bullshit hypothesizing going on in this "documentary".
NAND Gate - 09/07/2011 at 16:44
Utter garbage. Nice visuals, and a reasonable jaunt through archaeology - but utter garbage.
Logical fallacy after straw man followed by confirmation bias - all compounded by raw stupidity. Skip or watch with sound off.
How did you manage to suffer like this for 1 1/2 hour, or did you turn the sound off.
Looked more like recycling than garbage to me.
They had some amazing footage, and they talked to reputable archaeologists (while canning them). It is garbage, because there is no real logic to their "insights".
I watched it because it did have some great footage and some of the math involved was fascinating. I watched a doc recently about Gobekli Tepe, which is in Turkey, which I had never heard of before. Its conclusions were similar to the ones in this doc. I didn't agree with the conclusions but I did go on to investigate further. It led me to another archaeological discovery in Turkey called Nevali Cori. In the end, I learned a great deal as the result of watching something I didn't agree with. That is why this is such a great site. It allows people to learn about basic subjects while being entertained. There seems to be no prejudice in the subject matter because the site manager seems to know knowledge can also be derived from erroneous material as well as accurate material.
realsandox - 09/07/2011 at 13:56
I will agree with the rest of the people here, that the theories mentioned near the end are crazy and whatnot, but I really liked it (also because I tend to ignore the 'crazy' parts and keep the interesting facts and observations).
I guess I liked the romantic idea of the Egyptians wanting to send out a message through time (big monuments and all), which I doubt anyone here can disprove... though I don't think it was a message of destruction.
MatarD - 09/07/2011 at 13:16
Interesting. For sure, many arguments are refutable with alternative explanations. Though, so are many that are written here.
My only beef with the doc. is that I totally miss the connection between the initial 95% with the final 5%. The logic was - certain things line up, point to places and are built with certain proportions.... DESTRUCTION!!! GTFO!!! TO da CHOPPA!!!
If the message for the future generations was: Be careful, from time to time the magnetic pole is going crazy which will wipe out almost all life on Earth with a great cataclysm (the conclusion of the doc), why do that with building massive structures all over the world. They just could've do it with passing the knowledge on to the future generations of what they know, if they did know.
When they brought astrology into the picture, the doc lost almost all of its credibility.
If the pyramids were built with advanced machinery, we would have found something already.
A scene from a 19th century B.C. tomb in Middle Egypt depicts an alabaster statue 20 ft (6.6 m) high pulled by 173 men on four ropes with a man lubricating the slipway as the pulling went on.
What they didn't say in the doc is that in the Egyptian history there were many smaller, simpler, rudimentary pyramids built before Cheops. Many trials, attempts and errors.
The pyramid construction started with pharaoh Djoser (2600 BC) during the Third Dynasty. His architect, Imhotep, revolutionized the building of the tombs by creating a step pyramid by gathering six mastabas, rectangular royal tombs.
The fact is that there are 138 pyramids discovered in Egypt as of 2008. Most were built as tombs for the country's Pharaohs and their consorts during the Old and Middle Kingdom periods.
They also didn't mentioned other constructions in Egypt like the Temple of Karnak, Temple of Nefertiti and the Valley of the Kings in Luxor.
For example, the Temple of Karnak, is a massive complex (like a city), the largest ancient religious site in the world, that was built successively by many Egyptian dynasties. Construction of temples started in the Middle Kingdom and continued through to Ptolemaic times. Approximately thirty pharaohs contributed to the buildings, enabling it to reach a size, complexity, and diversity not seen elsewhere. And believe it or not In 323 AD, Constantine the Great recognized the Christian religion, and in 356 ordered the closing of pagan temples throughout the empire. Karnak was by this time mostly abandoned, and Christian churches were founded amongst the ruins.
The fact is that they stopped building the pyramids at some point and started burying their pharaohs in the south of the country in underground tombs (Valley of the Kings). An extraordinary complex of chambers, tombs, tunnels.
When you go and actually see all that you'll realize that the Egyptians really mastered their building abilities through thousands of years of training. There is no hidden agenda, there is no hidden message.
I recommend visiting Egypt: Sahara desert (a day with the Bedouins), Pyramid of Giza, Museum in Cairo, Colossi of Memnon, the Temple of Karnak, Temple of Nefertiti and the Valley of the Kings in Luxor.
For sure it was a really magnificent, intelligent and inspiring civilization.
They did not bring Astrology into it - It is called Astronomy. Astrology is when you read certain things e.g the future into Astronomy. It does not matter if you call it leo, the stars are still there. They are said here to be nothing more than points of reference (for time), and there were no mathematics argued into their significance, nor that they were the brightest stars in the sky magically placed there.
If the points of reference (for time) came before ascribing the sign = Astronomy. The making of the sign and its significance is the religious and superstitious act, which was not part the argumentation. The Egyptians however did this, but were are talking about a message from humans here after all, not nature.
I have been to Egypt, and the pyramids are about 2x larger than I ever thought they would be. They are absolutely huge. However, going there puts one down to earth and extreme explanations are not necessary anymore, but they are interesting to listen to. Many facts in this doc are amazing in their own right, and deserve their own doc.. The final conclusion is silly though.
@MatarD,
Yes they did bring Astrology into it and it was a part of the argument. 6th part, 13:34.
Paraphrased: The phi associates to 12 zone circle, which is the Zodiac, 4 angles of the pyramid refer to the 4 signs: Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius.
It does not matter if you call it leo, the stars are still there.
Yes it does matter since the tilt of the Earth's axis has gradually shifted since the ancient times when the Babylonians determined the dates of the Zodiac. Under this calculus, an erstwhile Aquarius, is now a Capricorn.
Also the sphinx and the axis of the pyramids are associated with the zodiac signs in this part.
P.S. I've been to Egypt too. All the sites I've mentioned.
@Vlatco
Yes because that is how Egyptians measured time. They only explained it to show how the Egyptians built for illustrating time. Just as Stonehenge is a calendar. Like every month has a zodiac sign today. The idea is that the message contained in Giza has to do with a specific cycle in time (26,000 years). The signs themselves are not claimed to explain anything. In other words, the Egyptians associated time and other things with their zodiacs (it is said), not the documentary. Just as other civilizations were aware of them. That is why they say e.g. that Scorpio was represented by an Eagle.
That the zodiacs have moved is an interesting debunk, and invalidates the above. As I said, I also think the doc. goes to far. But I did not see any Astrological or New Age interpretation here.
P.S - I did not say I went to Egypt to substantiate what I said. Just explaining my amazement with the place, and the value of seeing it with one´s own eyes. People should really go there, it´s worth the money.
Yes they didn't refer to Astrology as a new age fortuneteller stuff, but as if the pyramid has something to do with the zodiac (which is astrological interpretation).
For example: They claim that one of the axis of the pyramid refers to the Taurus - Scorpio (Eagle) represented by the winged bull from the Babylonian mythology. The other axis refers to the Leo - Angel represented by the sphinx (body of a lion with human head).
Sion88 - 09/07/2011 at 15:18
Agreed. But I would not consider a civilization that builds 146m high colossal tombs to be intelligent. Seems rather idiotic actually. I guess it's understandable though, seeing as how our own civilization today is also fairly idiotic.
His Forever - 09/07/2011 at 17:51
Ooooooo! That was really informative. Thanks, Vlatko!
But, I've read that Egypt is on the brink of closing the pyramids with the new Islamic fundamentalist government that could be forming. That would be a sad day for the world, as I haven't gotten to see them yet.
worrierprincess - 09/08/2011 at 17:38
Thank you for your dose of perspective. I agree that this documentary was nonsense, athough fun in a way. But the astronomical alignments (though no doubt exaggerated as these things tend to be) seemed less far-fetched than some of the other theories. I didn't see any astrology per se. Scientists still use the term "zodiac", as well as the traditional constellation names: for example even the most virulently anti-astrology astrophyicists refer to Regulus as "alpha Leo" or "alpha Leonis". It's standard terminology. Egyptians had different constellations from the Babylonian/Greek ones, (the documentary got that wrong -- big surprise) but Leo at least was a lion in both systems.
I would be interested to know if the ancient Egyptians had observed and calculated the precession cycle (the Chinese did it at least as early as the 3rd century CE). If they did, I'm sure it was the result of their own precise methods, carefully developed over many generations. If the Sphinx really aligns with Regulus every 26 000 years that would be pretty impressive. I must see if I can find any reputable information about that.
Vangrab - 12/08/2012 at 23:21
The only far-fetched was the theory after all the facts have been shown in the documentary and the narrator specifically say swhen the facts are delivered, now it comes untested shakeable area full of hypotheses where nothing can be confirmed and it is on the end of the documentary, so it could be or it doesn't have to be...
"For example, the Temple of Karnak, is a massive complex (like a city), the largest ancient religious site in the world, that was built successively by many Egyptian dynasties. Construction of temples started in the Middle Kingdom and continued through to Ptolemaic times. Approximately thirty pharaohs contributed to the buildings, enabling it to reach a size, complexity, and diversity not seen elsewhere. And believe it or not In 323 AD, Constantine the Great recognized the Christian religion, and in 356 ordered the closing of pagan temples throughout the empire. Karnak was by this time mostly abandoned, and Christian churches were founded amongst the ruins."
First of all how do you know that Egyptians had thousands of years how to build pyramids, they couldn't build pyramids if they didn't have some kind of high-tech with so much precision.
Second almost the entire documentary is based on facts and it shows shallow official statements of archeology archeology fails by far against the burden of this hardcore facts, and the narrator specifically says near the very end of the documentary: ok these were the facts now we're talking about far-fetched hypotheses. So, 95% of documentary is based on facts.
Third, once again all these pyramids you mentioned had to have some high-tech help they couldn't do it without some high-tech help and math and physics, forget about the aliens and other mumbo-jumbo, I'm talking about how the pyramid were made, it is so obvious that they had high-tech help, meaning they had vast knowledge. In the documentary is twas shown why even today's scientists with today's technology could not build pyramids, obviously 1000 years ago they were far more advanced than today, despite what shallow official archeology says actually believes.
Archeology of today is dumb it doesn't dig deeper, and they don't want other scientists in the field, because their beliefs would be collapsed, and everything in the school would have to be re-written, starting from scratch/ground zero.
hassan hejazi - 12/10/2012 at 17:55
hi vangrab, you are almost on the right track, maybe i am of a different relegion than you are, i am a sunni muslim, anyways i have done a search in different religions and historical facts, and have got to the conclusion to make this documentary not only 95% fact, but 100% by going back to the Qur'an, Allah says in some ayas here is a link where you can see all the proofs that the one responsible for the building of all these marvelous structures are a one nation that no one knows of, and they are the demonic slave of prophet Sulaiman (Solumin) that used to be up for him the statues and temples in an unachievable ways then knowing that humans then only where able to use a rock and a stick to cut through rocks and had almost no building skills (ps i don't know if you can translate the link, but believe me they never mentioned anything about islamic view and which leads to a question WHY NOT?)
The problem with most scientists is the fact that they do not believe in God and His Son, Jesus Christ. Without the Son and the Sun, there would be no life on this here planet... True or False ?!? Seems to me, them scientists, like "Charles Darwin" are not very intelligent... Then again, opposition in all things is necessary together with free choice.
One day... in the future... we will find the Truth of all things !
PieroFi - 09/07/2011 at 10:08
It is so amazing to see to what length people go to make their crazy theories "fit" what ever they see. Mix people, cultures, and moreover, time. It doesn't matter! Woohoo! Festival of bullshitism it its most amazing way. Funny, but any so called argument given here can be destroyed in extremely simple ways by anyone having a tad bit of common sense and general mathematical and natural knowledge. All what is said here can be destroyed in more ways there is space to write here.
More seriously : the "cuts" in the scientists interviews that make them say things they probably didn't.
Under an appearance of rigour, this documentary seems to be only facade for pseudo-science and its propaganda.
snjeba - 09/07/2011 at 19:09
so break it down for me bro.
Just a few exemples :
The pseudo-alignment of civilisation doesn't hold when you look at reality : what about Central America, North America, Greece, Crete, Mesopotamia, Persia and soon and so forth...?
The film-makers put in relations civilisations that developped idependently at vast distences, and more over, at enormous time differences... Egypt is 4000 years old (European antiquity), while Easter-Island correspond more or less to the European middle ages and Renaissance (1000-1600) two oceans and 3000 years to cross... How can someone even compare them? Idem for the Incas.
As for the writting of Easter Island and This Pakitanese place. Once again, enormous stretch of time and distance. On top of it, the ressemblance is only on a very very few characters, and this can be fully accidental. (people tend to draw people in a simillar fashion : head, body, arms and legs no?)
And yes, similar building techniques isn't proof of anything. Similar problems lead to similar solutions, the evolution of modern technology showed it many many times (just the the exemple of the Tu-144 and Concorde, and despite what people say, they weren't copies of each other).
I think this "Grand old mother-civilisation" theory is quite stupid and an insult to human ingenuity.
And yes, by all having a brain built in a same fashion, we will tend to think similar ideas.
As for the Egyptian mathematics "not knowing Pi etc etc", SAY WHAAAAT? Only a dozen or so papyri has ever been found with maths on them. It's like if in 2000 years some archeologist would be finding a 10th grader math books and say that we knew nothing about matrix calculation or even quantum math. And indeed, looking at what they built, they had much better maths than what we thought.
And to come back to the egyptian metric system theory and the "hidden message in the pyramids" , are you freaking kidding me? Number and geometry can be manipulated in what ever fashion you want to make them say anything you want, especially when you talk about irrational numbers like Pi of Phi.
And just measure your cubit for fun ;) (from finger tips to elbow)... What length do you find? Me: 52,5cm. WOW!! Exactly an egyptian royal cubit! But wait, the Egyptians used many many different measurements systems they had at least 2 different cubits (royal, 52,5 and standard 45cm) plus tons of other length systems, all based on the human body. Other exemple: my foot is exactly one foot long and my thumb one inch wide, so I got Imperial legs and fingers with "egypto-metric" arms? Damn! I' a true walking yard-stick!
Also, all measurement systems are made to a length that humanely manageable: just look, a yard, a meter and two royal cubits, quite similar length (very roughly) right? About half an arm-span, or a large step right?
It just so happen that the metric system (geometricaly calculated) is very similar (less than 5%) to the egyptian, human-based system. So yeah, when you start to do maths with them by approximating constants (like Pi) with an approximative length (conversions are often irrational numbers that we round up for ease), you will tend to find those similar-looking measurements.
Add a bit irrational belief in the mixture, and boom! you've got crazy theories.
I guess if I measure enough places on my body I could find Pi and maybe the speed of light too.
Also, the egyptian maths had a similar base than us: they counted on a base 10, as opposed to other civilisations, like the Babylonians (the inventers of maths btw) who counted on a base 60 for exemple.
Strangely enough, Babylonians were excluded from this so called studies. Why? They don't fit well with the theories isn't it?
And the references to other civilisations are very very vague, nothing realistic.
As well, the northward alignment of the pyramid is a pure accident. The magnetic north pole moves quite a bit over time (simetimes more than a degree per year), and so does the geographical north pole due to precession. And the explanation given in the documentary is plainly WORNG, just open an astronomy book).
Actually, the "North star" of today wasn't the one of the egyptians... And why to mix the astrology of the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Arabs and the Babylonians for the Sphinx orientation? o_O Wow! far fetched
As for the "we couldn't do it today". This is very untrue. We wouldn't bother do it because of the costs it would induce. But we could compare the building of a pyramid to our space programs. A whole nation was backing this up. All the ressources available were put into it. It was their space race, the achievement their technology and ressources allowed them to do. And not understanding a technique never made that technique "impossible". Because we are so used to our technology and grew lazy (and sometimes stupid) from it doesn't mean people couldn't do amazing things is very simple ways we just haven't thought off yet. And let's not forget the time factor...
For a perfect sculpture or wall building, if you have enough people taking enough time and care, they can do pretty amazing things with not much material (you know, the "measure twice, cut once" can make marvels).
And i could continue like this for days and days...
Documentary is full of facts and the narrator at very end of the documentary specifically says ok these were the facts, not what about assumptions?
This documentary is 100% credible.
Soul - 09/07/2011 at 09:11
It was the building of the Pyramid that makes the forest a desert...
Lillelis - 09/07/2011 at 09:05
ooorh, I was tying to troll, but after reading the comments i came to realise that there are plenty of folks ready to believe just about anything :)
signalfire1 - 09/07/2011 at 09:02
I'll let others comment on the content since my math abilities are lacking, but oh, what a gorgeous musical score! If you didn't listen to this with good speakers or headphones, you owe it to yourself. I would love a CD of the score for this movie.
I did listen, and I agree it was excellent. Started to comment on it earlier, myself.
Przemyslaw Wiejak - 09/07/2011 at 08:55
I'm watching this one again :D
OMG! This is overwhelming!
WOW!! I mean with all that evidence, how come science aint going all out in the investigation of this obviously real ancient civilization. How can anybody dismiss all this evidence?
Sylvester Palys - 09/07/2011 at 08:16
The main point that I will make is that when one takes into account what we know about ancient Egyptian mathematics (based primarily on the Rhind Papyrus), especially their ways of representing lengths and slopes, then the relationship between &pi and the Great Pyramid no longer seems very remarkable. The essential point is that the measurement system which the ancient Egyptians used would lead the architects to use certain slopes in the design of pyramids. One of those slopes just happens to be an excellent approximation to the number 4/&pi, and if the architect chooses that slope, then the pyramid would exhibit the famous &pi relationship. From this point of view, the probability that the architect might choose that particular slope for at least one of the pyramids is actually rather high. It then becomes quite reasonable to believe that the relationship between &pi and the Great Pyramid is just an accidental consequence of their Mathematics.
N.B. People should stick to religion for their fairy tales rather than disprovable assumptions.
geamala - 09/07/2011 at 09:05
Ummmm.... i don't think you disproved anything at all. This documentary is showing some seriously remarkable feats of engineering period. We cannot do today what they did then, period. Need i go on. Unremarkable my arse!!!
Oh, yes, we could! The impressive, nearly impossible thing is that they could do it with the technology they had available at that time.
We can't build a pyramid? Actually, why would we want to?
We built a nice one out in Vegas... (lol)
Wtf? First of all I think you might need to do yourself a little comparison between the size of the cute little pyramid in Vegas to the real deal in Giza before you start saying we can do it today. And also it was not nearly impossible at all that they did it. It was done! And by the looks of it they knew exactly what they were doing too.
...and one at the Louvre, in Paris. (lol)
Tamryn Louise - 09/07/2011 at 07:26
leddewis - 09/07/2011 at 05:58
if this is true then some one should tell the new world order theres no need for the great cull.As we are all going up in smoke
Right Leddewi, but in the meanwhile, why not having a heck of a good time laughing at the ones in misery?
Since that in a way or another...
Beside, when is the next "End of the some ~26,000 years?
I was busy at other things that time around and just can't remember when it was...
The way I see it...the world will end for me when I have a heart attack, or get hit by a car, or when my plane goes down in flames...I needn't worry about "the end of the world," as we all have our own end...as the world (as we know it) will surely end when we ourselves die. So I chose to be thankful and try my best to enjoy life and keep the stress low :) These "end of the world" ideas have merit, only in the fact that someday perhaps the world will go through a cycle of death , birth , and renewal...who knows, but it is as natural as our own birth, so why let it consume you with fear :/ ... Why do we feel terror at the possibility, when tomorrow the world will definitely end for countless ppl from all walks of life, could even be me. I guess everything depends on how we as individuals "interpret" the world around us. That's my rant on the "freaky weird ending of this documentary, that seems to want to scare the be-jesus out of some poor closed minded individuals watching it. Great comments btw ...a lot of good points shared!
A line I have used when discussing an apocalyptic future is "The world ends the day I die." What I am really saying is that most of us, individually, cannot foresee a future in which we play no part. Each of us feels, consciously or subconsciously, that the future has to be bleak because how can it not be without us. People have foretold of impending doom for thousands of years and yet here we are. The world will end someday in the future but like you say it is the normal cycle of existence in the universe. Not mystical or magical, just the way it is.
Puzzling... I stopped the clip and calculated that perimeter thing and it does comes up to the the speed of light.
To the one hundred. 2 Decimal after the point...
Just as a magicien, puzzling I'll say... Annoying!
And then, they state that it comes around once per some 26,000 years?
When was the last time?
Anybody knows, I was busy at other things that time.
Thinking of this, let's tell Georgy that that he was right, global warming is meaningless! Let's suck all the oil there can be in Irak and burn it up!
Wont change a thing on the outcome...
Still, I have to figure out all that gibberish...
Bizarre geometry, almost frustrating.
Why is it like that? Why tell us?
Square 3.1416
Sieben Stern - 09/07/2011 at 05:27
as much as docus like this are interesting, it just cheeses me that it is completely based on that idea that ancient people were morons beating rocks together. (no wheels. riiight.) The Egyptians had hundreds if not thousands of years to learn how to use stone and get their act together before making the great pyramid. Comparing their technology to ours, both based on different tools, materials, and technology is ridiculous. Just because we find something difficult, because we work with different materials, doesn't mean that it was to them.
limited - sheesh, Egypt was everything but. Unlimited labor, unlimited beer, unlimited materials, unlimited funds, and a god king. could they build the pyramid? duh.
built by aliens and alien technology? what a load. next you'll tell me they found God Cards in the queen's chamber e_e;;;
Hi Sieben Stern,
Following your logic, every pyramid build after Giza should have been more and more sophisticated. Sadly, that is far from true, on the contrary, the quality of pyramids gets more and more shabby starting with the 5th dynasty. I may be wrong, but that tells me that the argument you put forth above has some cracks.
big cracks! that's how the light gets in!
Until they're filled in with the mortar of logic, the "light" isn't the only thing that gets in...
That's not necessarily true. The Roman Empire went into decay just like the Egyptian Kingdoms. The intricate road system, the aqueducts, the huge forums were all abandoned and many were lost and forgotten. Great civilizations are built and then seem to melt away. Giza was the pinnacle of pyramid construction but like the old saying goes "All things must pass". Times change and people's priorities change. There are a lot of plausible reasons why pyramid building lost its importance.
Intbel - 09/07/2011 at 05:26
Seems progress is being made.
Who built them and how they were built are questions which we seem to be no closer to answering.
I want the answers but more immediately, I want to know exactly what lies under the sphinx's paw - that needn't take much longer to discover.
Maybe we'd have had the answers years ago if the lies had not been perpetuated generation after generation with scientists and others refusing to budge from their bigotry and career investment ...
... after all, while the truth is hidden, funding will always be available for research, much the same as folks will continue to donate their hard-earned to fake cancer research until they realise that both preventions and cures have been known for years and that like most everything we've ever been taught, it's mostly lies.
My only objection to this video is the obligatory fear based reference to warnings of some cataclysm ... seems no-one can produced a film, a documentary, a news broadcast or even a political speech without promoting fear.
So, what's your answer? No more research because researchers all lie? Close the schools for they teach lies? Burn the libraries for they are the repositories for all the lies that we have been taught? Lies, liars and crooks, all?
I wish I hadn't responded to this post in a way. I think in my old age I'm starting to become annoyed at the idea that all our knowledge is a structural lie and we need these revisionists to restructure our science and history; revisionists who spend more time criticizing than they spend in a lab.
you mean like the library of Alexandria?
@ Azilda
A shame that the library of Alexandria is gone. It was probably destroyed by those in power because they didn't want us to know it's ancient knowledge. Is everybody against us?
hahaha you loon. The cure for cancer is out there, but we (yes US) are so evil that we would keep it from one another.
I would say that such a comment makes everything you believe and argue, completely dismissable, based on that alone.
creebutt - 09/07/2011 at 05:23
interesting doc! I liked it a lot!
jonathan jackward - 09/07/2011 at 04:54
fantastic doc, one of the best ones i've seen in a while!
marcosanthonytoledo - 09/07/2011 at 04:36
I agree see if the capstone fits on the Great Pyramid should prove interesting and there a possibility that the Spinx is really Anubis if Robert Temple is right awesome is right for this documentary.
Eniki520 - 09/07/2011 at 03:44
love the history docs best site ever!
Xercès Des Stèles - 09/07/2011 at 03:33
i took astronomy 101. the important cycles are obviously the planet on itself (day/night), the planet around sun (year with equinoxes), and then the woble of the axis of the earth over time causing the celestial sphere to have this 26 000 years cycle (as shown in this doc), and then the alignment of the solar system with the center of the galaxy (every 330 000 years or something). all the scare theories about 2012 come from the fact that those cycles all happen together, on the winter equinox.
when they found pi, the golden number, and the meter everywhere in the pyramid configs, it convinced me that whoever built them were trying to teach us about the univers, rather than warn us about imminent death.
agreed :) !
Exactly right. They were human, after all, and they were (probably) showing off a little bit, too.
Loved the research and the concepts...and finally ...someone confronted the often ridiculously closed society of "mainstream" Archaeologists, who sometimes prevent truths from seeing the light of day in order to save "face." Loved the whole thing... minus the end parts where it all got a lil' freaky :/ (pause) ... But none the less, it was nice to see a new take on things ( again minus the freaky preachy ending ...I mean why would an advanced race try to "warn" us of impending doom 26,000 years in the future...only to realize that there is absolutely nothing that can be done short of "getting out of dodge."
Perhaps it had another use lol....but it really does show how archaeologists are once again closed off to new ideas. I say let physicists and engineers "have at it," and send those old dinosaur archaeologists on vacation along with their old second hand ideas passed to them by their mentors... and I bet we would finally get some interesting answers and new theories : )
...and whats with China??? makes ya wonder if they know more... lol
great documentary !!!
Those pyramids are no longer in the forbidden zone. Anyone with tourist bucks can go visit them. What the Chinese government does know is how to recognize an opportunity to make a buck.
China has opened many doors in the last few years, and frankly if i owned China may be i would have kept it for myself too. lol
I was trained by the Chinese, and I agree!!...their Government knows how to recognize the opportunity to make a buck !! lol
Carolyn Cameron - 09/07/2011 at 02:59
Actually I wonder if they will ever put the pyramidium on top of the great pyramid if that is what its for and wonder what would happen!?
Fascinating I want to see more... :)
Charles Hebert - 09/07/2011 at 07:09
This is based on research done by Graham Hancock's 'Fingerprints of the Gods' a book first produced nearly 20 yrs ago & widely panned by skeptics--get the first edition or printing bcs it seems to me the info changed...but I was researching so many different books I may have been confused by which source it came from...cf Anthony West, Robert Bauval (my sense tells me that since this is French production, his fingerprints are on it somewhere)
Not surprised. I kept waiting for Hancock to appear or worse, Childress. I have to admit that what appears to be underwater structures in the Pacific is interesting. There needs to a closer look to determine to see if they are what they appear to be.
It's not really based on Graham Hancock's FOTG but rather on the work of Carl Munck and co.
Tom IronMan Drane - 09/07/2011 at 02:16
Awesome documentary! They should put the pyramidian back on top of the Giza pyramid (if indeed it is the missing piece) on the solstice and see what happens...
Jason 'Bantu' Moore - 09/07/2011 at 01:55
It's quite possible that the pyramids are a machine to shield us from the failing poles only to be activated by specific frequencies during the equinox. Of course, you would have to be at the great pyramid to do this.
A rock machine? That's scary for a lot of us in Eastern Canada.
An interesting documentary about a spectacular feat of engineering, for that time or any other, but the (suggested) conclusions about the "real significance" of the Giza pyramid?
Total. Unmitigated. Bullshit.
On what basis do you suggest the conclusions are "unmitigated bullshit"?
Do you have an alternative credible theory?
Any theory that remains rooted in the facts as known, without making unwarranted, fanciful extrapolations, will gain my full attention. The conclusion of this documentary is fodder for a Hollywood disaster film, not the textbooks and lectures of serious science. I don't need to offer a credible alternative in order to recognize simple shit when I see it.
If you cant see why Pysmythe is right, you have no right to ask about credible theories, because you don't understand the word credible.
It seems like some people in this forum are not clever enough to even look at the categories before they commenting. Pysmythe, a perfect example. He probably go to a star wars movie and complains about it's lack of realism. He says he's clever. I don't think he is. But he is funny! Cheers! But I do agree with him, he don't need to offer us comments anymore...
If George Lucas tried to masquerade Star Wars as actual history, sure, I'd be on the side of the Jedi running a lightsaber through it.
( In space, it's true, no one can hear you fart... But I don't bother bringing such beans to the table of imaginative fiction...)
Many of the Lucas's ideas may become history in real life...we just need to be patient.
A few of the technologies forecasted in Star Trek have already became reality, the most prominent being the cell-phone. The guy who invented it ( I don't remember his name) said he got the idea directly from the hand-held communicators used by the show's characters. And the teleportation of atoms is also becoming a reality now. There is also a kind of Internet referenced on the original show, and several other things I could mention.
Yeah this was really interesting..But what really raised my brow was the secret footage of the Chinese pyramids? Whats up with that I wonder whats in those pyramids they don't want anyone to see :0
lub - 01/27/2012 at 20:23
To answer your questions., critical thinking and imagination outside the box of communist totalitarian control and idelogy is anathema to China's authocratic rulers. Any Artifact, evidence, circumstance, person place or thing which question China's rulers absolute power and ideology is concertedly repressed by the state.
Even history is revised and distorted for political power!
Operative-onenineseven Cryptoz - 07/25/2012 at 07:29
'...even history...' ! EVEN! I love it!!
William Harold Shadley - 02/12/2012 at 00:46
You spelled America "China."
Game Zone - 02/21/2012 at 19:06
you meant USA
OccultAlien - 09/07/2011 at 01:39
if the egyptions had no wheels what the hell is an egyptian chariot.
excellent point - wheels were used in mesopotamia as early as what... 17-1800 bce?
"Egyptologists believe that the pyramid was built as a tomb for fourth dynasty Egyptian Pharaoh Khufu (Cheops in Greek) over an approximately 20 year period concluding around 2560 BC." (that would be about 700 - 800 years before the period you mention)
HiroPro - 09/24/2011 at 15:15
OK so you think our smart and the doc is BS because you know they had chariots... Well dude your an idiot... and didnt even noticed nor know that there are TWO Egyptian dynasties separated by THOUSANDS of years! The Great Pyramid was created in the first dynasty and no they didn't have the wheel at that point in history.
Good stuff, love the pyramid docs.
Savage Henry - 09/07/2011 at 01:03
Anything narrated by Brian Cox kicks ass! Argyle!!!!!!!!!!!!
All good pyramid documentaries are super fascinating !! I Always make time to see a new one :) !!
Corcoran - 09/06/2011 at 22:59
Nice doc, modern styled with an amazing comprehensive view on this oldest riddles.
Ok, maybe the last conclusion is a little bit risky, but all in all its very mind feeding.
I wish more modern, conventional egyptologists could be open for another kind of explanation, or perhaps they know something which they could not or dont want to admit.
Superb upload. Thanks
How does one date a pyramid like Gysa and the Sphinx? a big MAY BE.
I was once told that the pyramid is actually is the shape of a diamond. It would have a V shape underneath similar to what we saw on the small one here.
I often searched to see if i could find some info about that but never did. Although the person who suggested this seemed wise and local.
any one?
How do scientists date pyramids? That's a very good question. From what I understand, the dating is based on the ancient inscriptions referring to them and the artifacts found in them. I think that carbon dating is not possible on rocks that don't contain biological material, so I assume that carbon dating of pyramids is out of the question. Basically, the dating of pyramids is based on the mainstream science assumption that our knowledge of ancient Egypt's time-line is correct. Some investigations of geologists on the marks on the Sphinx left by (most probably) rainfall are taking place, comparing them with historical records, but the only approximate date this could get to is around 10 - 12 thousand years (and that's based on sources that are more mythological than historical).
There are numerous methods of dating inorganic artifacts and structures both natural and man made. Thermoluminescence dating, and Optically stimulated luminescence would likely be the preferred methods for things like the pyramids. Additionally Rehydroxylation dating could be used to date ceramic artifacts interred within the pyramids themselves, and the stone their made of if their source can be located could be dated Stratigraphally. There is also likely to be pollen unintentionally interred within the pyramids and this pollen can also be used to help provide a date. Since we've also found camps used by workers during their construction, and these camps likely contained hearths we could also potentially use Archaeomagnetic dating, though any date reached using this method is likely not as reliable as the camps were possibly inhabited before the pyramids were built, and likely inhabited after their completion. Radiocarbon dating could be used to date the barge that was buried in the giza pyramid complex, but this again has the problem that we do not known with certainty that the ship is contemporary with pyramids themselves.
Very informative. Thanks.
just a few points.
If the pyramid of Giza was standing way before the evaluated time and era, and reutilize by the Egyptians, then how would we be able to date it?
The ancient inscriptions may not have existed in the original...and all we would have in order to date it would be the technology used to build it.
The many pyramids built afterwards would have been an effort to copy this magnifique structure. Many did crumble as you must have seen Vlatko. The temples near Luxor although decorated elaborately are nowhere near the grandeur of GIZA. There is, on the other hand, no doubts that they knew how to chissel the rock to write.
But until an alien lands here and tell us all about their stories (if we would ever let them), the whole thing will remain subject for debate.
the walls of Cuzco were also destroyed partially and reutilise.
@Vlatko...DId you go to Saqqara, the oldest pyramid? Now how did they get from that to Giza in such short time? It almost makes it look like kids building elaborate sand castle.
It sure did puzzle me while i was standing there!
2.3 million limestone blocks does require a big box for a puzzle to hold together
@Azilda
No I didn't have a chance to visit Saqqara and I don't know how did they get from that to Giza in such a short time, but there are obvious evidences that every pharaoh (up to 1550 BC) was building a pyramid for himself. Apparently the most successful of all, in that sense, was Khufu (Cheops).
so here is a theory to hang in the wind like a flag...easily disputable by anyone who is already set in stone (literally)
the great pyramid and the sphinx were already there
the Egyptians took hold of Giza's and decorated them with hieroglyphs
they also tried to reproduce construction of pyramids but were never able to quite match the standing one because they did not have the tools, knowledge and engineering
The Great Pyramid (which name is Khufu), is the most successful? basically none others even come close! They all look like attemps to copy. Possibily every Pharaon tried to imitate, it would have been quite a goal of grandeur for sure!
Your hypothesis is as legitimate as any other. I myself think it's a reasonable and logical challenge given the obvious inability of the Egyptians to build another pyramid that would match Giza before or after, and the uncertainty with the dating of the Giza pyramids.
Kahlil Lane - 09/06/2011 at 21:55
fascinating......
I really loved this documentary! I can't remember seeing another one on this topic speaking in such specific terms of mathematics and I can't remember another one placing so much emphasis on the absolute perfection of the building of these old monuments that cannot (or can but with a lot of effort) even be achieved today with all the modern technology. Making pretty strong case of it too in my opinion.
One could make an assumption of just coincidental similarities between the architecture of these monumental buildings built at different times all around the planet during the epoch of chisel technology, but if that was a coincidence then Mickey Mouse may be a real person too.
Irishkev - 09/06/2011 at 20:09
I know, and so little time.
One of the best doc i've seen here yet. It may be because i set foot on many of these sites, Machu Pichu, Cuzco, Sacsayhuaman, Dogon valley, Petra, Giza, Persepolis, missed Mohenjodaro because of unexpected situation, Sukhotai, missed Ankor Wat also because of unexpected situation.
Was i lucky or destined to go there? Am i lucky to be here or was i destined to be here?
Many pyramids were also discovered in eastern Europe and new ones keep coming.
The US gov. knows about all this, probably for a long time already, is that why money in the trillions is invested in space program. Do they already know that the earth is about to become an "unfriendly" place to be? Are there already working cities floating in space? For who, when?
I like how this guy pushes the envelop on the scientists and Egyptologist, actually i love it.
Hi Az, if you ever get the chance try to visit Newgrange or the ancient ring forts in Ireland. They were probably ruins when the pyramids were being built. If you like old stuff that is.
What interested me as much as the physical "museum" aspect of these sites was their energetic history. Been to Stonehenge also...so much to see!
greyspoppa - 09/07/2011 at 00:34
Not 100% sure but the ones in eastern Europe were proven not to be man made but natural, even if that's correct do you know about the tunnel systems that are there? Very interesting.
You're probably one of the most interesting people I've every "met" Az. Wish I had traveled half the places you have. You and Vlatko realy make me want to go to Egypt now!
CapnCanard - 09/10/2011 at 15:50
curious... this doc is okay but I am not certain of the conclusions though it is worth watching again. I am a little disappointed that the idea of the end of the ice age of 10 to 12 thousand years ago is not addressed. There is speculation that the weathering patterns on the pyramids is indicative of water damage due to rain and not wind and blowing sand as Egyptologists apparently believe. The idea of the Great Year is intriguing, almost compelling, though as I get older I find myself drifting further away from the standard objective view of reality...
Abraham Anand - 09/06/2011 at 17:23
I guess there is much more mystery hidden in these. Perhaps a conclusion about all these ancient structures sending a message to the future generation, warning a natural catastrophe is highly unlikely. If it is a warning they could just have engraved the message on rocks, it would been much easier than to build such magnificently brilliant structures.
Hodd - 09/07/2011 at 00:48
Like the mayan calandar? Such a structure as these certainly makes a point no?
What about the Mayan calendar? It's an example of fine, even exceptional, mathematical skills for the time and place. Not a portent of the end of the world...
(And neither is the Great Pyramid.)
@Pysmythe It certainly seems to say a lot more than that, as impressive as that is on its own. The point is it ends at the end of the 26 thousand year cycle mentioned in this doc, and I was suggesting the Giza pyramid makes that point much more strongly than engraved messages (like the calendar).
@Hodd
So both cultures had gifted men of numbers who could figure out the 26,000 year celestial precession. That much we may know. But ancient priesthoods, scattered over the earth and time, covertly warning us of impending worldwide disaster? We do not know that, and making such unfounded extrapolations does nothing to advance understanding of what might have been the actual intentions of these cultures. My (more or less educated) guess is that, on the morning of the 22nd of December of next year, I'm going to be laughing my butt off yet again at the foolishness of people looking for signs and wonders. And I will not be at all surprised when, on the morning of the 23rd, some new threat is unveiled for people to get off (and get rich) on.
That's a huge part of what such things are: People enjoy fear, and, even more than that, they enjoy inflicting it on other people. Especially when it increases the size of their bank account.
Alexander Olsson - 09/06/2011 at 17:02
I would say it's pretty clear that Many of those Ancient structures like the Pyramids were not made by conventional means, that is to say chisel and stone, but my some other means. All the different coincidences is not mere chance, there is something more going on for sure.
S.E.T.H - 09/06/2011 at 16:38
nice production and cinematography . Narration isnt great but overall i enjoyed this, its a bit fanatical but nothing beyond reasoning.
i liked it, thanks vlatko :)
Bogdan - 09/06/2011 at 16:01
I thought it was narrated by professor Brian Cox...suddenly the documentary seems less interesting
What's more important, the subject or the cute guy presenting it?
I too would chose the cute guy sometimes.
When was he last there doing research? Do you know?
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The Black Tapes’ Clever Apophenia: How the Internet Tells Stories
By Vrai Kaiser on September 21, 2015 • ( 6 Comments )
If you’ve spent the last few months missing Serial, I feel it’s my duty to point you toward the impeccable in-progress podcast The Black Tapes. It too has a curious journalist with a soothing voice (Alex Reagen) and a fascination for unresolved stories – in this case, stories about unexplained supernatural sightings and the people who believe in them. Alex’s main resource in accessing these events turns out to be Dr. Richard Strand, a famed “ghost hunter who doesn’t believe in ghost.”
His collection of unsolved reports (not yet debunked, as he would put it) provides the name for the podcast. The stories of lives that unfold in each episode are fascinating, and if the description I’ve given strikes any interest in your heart I advise you to stop here and listen to the series. It’s a very special thing to experience without any foreknowledge.
Go on, then.
Still here? Well, then let me add one more fact.
It’s entirely fictional.
Those of you who’ve not listened to it and skipped down here anyway are no doubt giving me a mighty no duh expression. But The Black Tapes is not a series eager to expose its provenance: the episode credits are fashioned to have been completed by “in universe” characters, with the actual writers listed as producers; Alex Reagen and Richard Strand both have Twitter accounts and unnamed actors, and Strand answers questions from real life listeners in-character; there’s even a website for the Strand Institute.
And there’s the show’s less overt appeal to credibility as well – Alex’s alto voice and soothing cadence very much recalls reporter Sarah Koenig from the famously nonfiction Serial, as does the simple, plonky background instrumental that serves to tie scene breaks together. While it never lies to you directly (and the real source of the series can be found with a slightly more than cursory Google search), careful steps of circumstantial evidence were clearly laid out to nudge people to a certain surface-level conclusion. To indulge in their own apophenia, if you will.
It’s a brilliant marriage of form and function. The podcast begins with its foot squarely in reality, after all, more concerned with what drives people to hunt ghosts than the ghosts themselves and happy to let Strand thoroughly debunk the lead-in haunting. And its very first “black tape” is cribbed more or less directly from the internet’s favorite urban legend. The script is very good at asking “what if,” at offering familiar territory and plausible mundane explanations for the strange incidents before us (helped along by the truly top notch acting of the cast).
And while it does that, it also gently slips in a growing pile of implausibility that the listener might not even know they’re adjusting to. Strand’s one million dollar prize for proving the paranormal? That actually exists, albeit offered by the James Randi Educational Foundation. The audio is unusually clear, and the people Alex speaks to are pretty universally well spoken? Well, it’s a public radio series headed by a professional team. Of course they’d pick the best audio they had and trim the “um”s. Strand’s unusual willingness to come back after his fight with Alex over his personal life? Editing to make the timeline of the makeup cleaner. The frequency with which Strand acquires new cases? Well, we don’t know exactly how the production and release schedules match up, and he does have that back catalogue in the office. The abundance of mood-setting background tracks? I mean, Serial already did it (and Alex and her producer sitting down to openly discuss the ethics of their investigation may be one of my favorite lowkey jabs of all time). By the time the spooky kid from episode two winds up kidnapped and taken to an isolated cabin rigged for demon summoning, you’re about ready to believe it.
It’s not tenable forever, of course. Once a significant portion of the cast has recurred and Alex is talking to an old contact who winds up with a notable slip in her Russian accent (indeed the entire Russia plot – engrossing stuff, but flown free out of the realms of any kind of dismissible possibility) the cracks in the show’s plausibility begin to show, and pretty much shatter entirely with a big wink to the audience during a break-week Q&A (“It’s not like we’re actors” wink nudge).
And while I confess the initial dawning of the show’s fictional nature was, for your gullible host, a bit like realizing about Santa all over again, I don’t actually consider it a failure on the show’s part. The blending of fiction and reality simply cannot go on forever, and the show doesn’t seem to be interested in pulling a fast one so much as demonstrating how these sort of hazily detailed myths get started, as well as what maintains their ability to fascinate. The fact that it accomplishes something that should be impossible so skillfully is a separate, equally interesting matter (after all, while we do theoretically have the world’s information at our fingertips, how many of us bother to check it when we’re presented with an engaging, seemingly trustworthy story?).
Regardless, it makes its transition with relative grace, seemingly done with an eye both for the amassing evidence of demonic portals and the potential for further seasons of perhaps more purely outlandish stories. And wherever it goes in the future – indeed, even if this one story arc winds up being the whole of things – it will stand both as a metafictional accomplishment in podcasting and a damn fine spooky story.
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Dr.Plushingsworth says:
Oh man, I am so happy you introduced me to this podcast. I am always looking for new shows to listen to when I work. Was already a fan of Nightvale, and blew through a relisten in about a week or so. This show is excellent, unfortunately, already in the “waiting for new episodes” phase. It really is amazingly well done.
I’m so glad you liked it! Buckle up, cause I think we’re in for a hiatus after episode 12 airs (depending on how they tackle this “season” thing)
I listened to all the episodes currently available. A great recommendation, as always.
Podcasts (or audio drama) might be the ideal format for this kind of meta-fictional screwing around. I’m sure most people are just about critical enough to google a few key words from a written document while reading it, and everyone has experience with manipulated video, but there’s something inherently distancing and reliable about audio. Maybe that’s why it worked so well for Orson Welles.
In general, I’m a little wary of explicitly supernatural films and shows that feature skeptic characters. I get why you’d want to do it from a dramatic point of view since it gives you an anchoring sense of realism and the outline of a character arc, but at the same time it feels like popular culture is training its audience to assume the skeptic is always wrong. Maybe the meta elements here negate that somewhat, and if not, we’ll always have Velma Dinkley.
“And while I confess the initial dawning of the show’s fictional nature was, for your gullible host, a bit like realizing about Santa all over again”
That is certainly a way to react to finding out that Satan, Slender Man and the bad guy from The Exorcist aren’t in cahoots to invade Earth.
Truly, a woeful moment. I do think the show falls a bit into letting Strand be a groan-worthy skeptic once you see the fictional strings at play, but the hints that it’s tied into some grievous mistake he’s made go at least part way to trying to alleviate the pain of that trope (and I agree, the trouble with knowing how fiction is meant to be read pretty much guarantees that one side will look like an unpleasant, unbelievable idiot. On the other end of the spectrum, the movie Paul is pretty unpleasant about it).
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HImmy says:
Listening from London….thought it was real at first….
but I believe in ghosts
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The Mill's shapeshifting Blackbird can mimic any car
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Thanks to the Blackbird, automotive content will never be the same.
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Securing exotic, high-performance vehicles for a video shoot can be an expensive and arduous ordeal. Between dealing with availability of the vehicle, location, and filming, setting up the perfect shot for movies or commercials is extremely difficult. With the Blackbird, The Mill has made it possible to shoot automotive content without needing a specific vehicle.
The Blackbird is the world's first fully adjustable car rig that cannot only alter its chassis to match the precise length and width of almost any car, but its looks as well. Using CGI, the car rig can be re-skinned to look like any car, and its electric motor can be programmed to emulate the driving characteristics of the subject car, too. Automotive content producers no longer need the physical vehicle for a shoot as the Blackbird is a do-it-all-rig.
In addition to being able to drive and look like any car, the Blackbird can help users build a virtual version of its environment by using a combination of 3D laser scanning and high-dynamic range imagery. For those that aren't as imaginative, The Mill has created a unique AR application that allows individuals to see the intended CGI vehicle on top of the rig.
As its name implies, the Blackbird was hand built in the same hanger as the Blackbird SR-71 supersonic jet by technicians from JemFX and took two years to complete.
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Andrew Newman: Captivity Narratives and The Handmaid’s Tale, Part 1
Posted by Dino on 9 January 2019, 10:00 am
Today we welcome the first of a two-part guest post from Andrew Newman, author of Allegories of Encounter: Colonial Literacy and Indian Captivities, just published by UNC Press and the Omohundro Institute of Early American History and Culture.
Presenting an innovative, interdisciplinary approach to colonial America’s best-known literary genre, Andrew Newman analyzes depictions of reading, writing, and recollecting texts in Indian captivity narratives. While histories of literacy and colonialism have emphasized the experiences of Native Americans, as students in missionary schools or as parties to treacherous treaties, captivity narratives reveal what literacy meant to colonists among Indians. Colonial captives treasured the written word in order to distinguish themselves from their Native captors and to affiliate with their distant cultural communities. Their narratives suggest that Indians recognized this value, sometimes with benevolence: repeatedly, they presented colonists with books.
Allegories of Encounter is available now in both print and ebook editions.
Captivity Narratives and The Handmaid’s Tale
Part I. Reception Allegories
Why did sales of George Orwell’s 1984 and Margaret Atwood’s The Handmaid’s Tale surge in 2017? The immediate answer to this question, that the grim forebodings of these works of speculative fiction are seemingly being fulfilled by current events, is not sufficient. It does not explain the shared impulse to seek out parallels to one’s experience in one’s reading, or the recourse to reading in response to disorienting, upsetting events. A more thoroughgoing explanation emerges through the study of colonial captivity narratives.
Allegories of Encounter is about representations of literacy practices in the narrative accounts of colonists who were captured by Native Americans during colonial wars. It argues that for these captives, reading and writing were part of a reassertion of a cultural identity under duress – even as they were stripped of their European clothes, famished and fatigued, they remained ideationally connected to their estranged communities by reading, writing, recollecting, and meditating on texts.
Moreover, these texts became part of their experience of captivity. That is, a conventional model of intertextuality focuses on the relations between texts, but I argue that stories also inform experiences, and even influence behaviors. I develop the concept of the “reception allegory,” in which the story one is reading, a story about others in other times and places, is also understood as the story of oneself.
Many instances of reception allegory in accounts of captivity extend the Christian interpretive practice of typology. Early New England captives understood the story of the Old Testament Jews who were carried away captive to Babylon as a literal account of an event that occurred in the remote past, as a prefiguration of the story of Christ in the New Testament, and as a pattern for their own experience. For example, the following passage is from Mary Rowlandson’s famous – to early Americanists – 1682 account of captivity during King Philip’s War, The Sovereignty and Goodness of God. It recounts the moment soon after Narragansetts and Wampanoags captured her in a raid on Lancaster, when they brought her across the Connecticut River and into a re-enactment of the 137th Psalm.
Although I had met with so much affliction, and my heart was many times ready to break, yet could I not shed one tear in their sight; but rather had been all this while in a maze, and like one astonished. But now I may say as Psalm 137.1, “By the Rivers of Babylon, there we sate down: yea, we wept when we remembered Zion.”
This sort of reading was not restricted to Scriptures, however. I also see evidence of reception allegories in accounts of secular reading practices, such as those of the eighteenth-century British gentlemen Thomas Morris and Thomas Ridout, who read Shakespeare’s Antony and Cleopatra and Fenelon’s The Adventures of Telemachus as captives in the old Northwest.
I see both phenomena, reception allegories and discourse-community affiliation, at play in contemporary readings and evocations of dystopian fiction. Like early colonial captives, readers today correlate current events with prophetic texts.
Sign at the March for Science 2017 in Washington, DC.
Readers today know that the United States is not literally becoming Oceania, or Gilead, the totalitarian states depicted in 1984 and The Handmaid’s Tale, respectively, any more than the American woods literally became Babylon. Instead, noting the correspondences, they fear it is becoming like them: the allegoresis indicates an outcome, possibly to be averted.
In some cases, as in the Indian captivities, the levels of signification, literal and figural, seem to converge, as when activists have dressed as handmaids, the procreative slaves in Atwood’s dystopia, to bring attention to threats to women’s rights. “But now I may say,” one seemed to declare, at a Chicago rally against the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh in August 2018: “We won’t let the bastards grind us down.”
Charles Edward Miller, “Illinois Handmaids Stop Brett Kavanaugh Rally Downtown Chicago Illinois 8-26-18”
The phrase is a literal translation of a faux-Latin slogan from the novel: “Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.” Who might understand this cryptic public allusion? It is accessible only to the initiated: those who had read The Handmaid’s Tale, or, alternatively, had seen Episode 4, Season 1 of Hulu’s television adaptation of Atwood’s novel, which premiered in April 2017.
This collective allegoresis exemplifies a broader implication of all of our media practices – reading, writing, tweeting, posting, tagging, liking – namely, the actualization of community. Reading The Handmaid’s Tale, in 2018, is not necessarily a political act, but it is definitively a symbolic action. It signifies, I count myself among those who get the relevance of this book, today. In times like these, I value literature. In this respect, as a practice of participation in a community and of contradistinction to that community’s perceived outsiders, this reading resembles the media practices of the captive readers.
The valuation of literacy and literacy enacted by readers of dystopian fiction reflects the values (or language ideology) expressed by the works themselves. In 1984, Winston Smith awakes from a dream with “with the word ‘Shakespeare’ on his lips.” The Handmaid’s Tale, which after Inauguration Day in 2016 leapfrogged 1984 on Amazon’s bestseller list, is especially apropos because it’s a captivity narrative: the first person account of a woman, June, who was wrested from her family and her former life (including a job at a library!) and forcibly assimilated into a new role, with, like some colonial captives, a new name: she becomes Offred, the handmaid of Fred, the Commander.
In Gilead, getting caught in the act of reading or writing might mean losing a hand. In this respect, The Handmaid’s Tale differs from the captivity narratives I analyze in Allegories of Encounter, because in those the captors generally sanction and even enable the captives’ literacy practices, even by giving them books. In The Handmaid’s Tale, the captors’ recognition of the captives’ attachment to their former life is more sinister: the Commander himself summoned Offred to his study, “an oasis of the forbidden” lined with books; she was “terrified,” but the tension diffused when he invited her to play a game of Scrabble. Subsequently, he proffered a glossy woman’s magazine – a relic from a lost world. “I felt the Commander watching me as I turned the pages,” Offred recalls. As June did in her former life, Atwood’s readers may take for granted their freedom read a magazine or to play Scrabble, to arrange letters into words.
Whatever they suggest about the Native Americans, colonial captivity narratives express the importance of literacy practices to the captive-authors, as rituals of cultural identity. Unsurprisingly, a twentieth-century author expresses a corresponding worldview. Atwood construes the proscription of literacy as a definitive feature of dystopia, and the act of literary representation as antithetical to totalitarianism.
In the next installment of this blog post, I’ll take a deeper dive into The Handmaid’s Tale, and its methodological implications for historical scholarship.
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by virochannel | Nov 26, 2015 | Articles
Adherence to Post-Exposure Prophylaxis (PEP) and Incidence of HIV Seroconversion in a Major North American Cohort
A research by Clinique médicale l’Actuel, Montréal, Québec, Canada
Drs. Réjean Thomas, Chrissi Galanakis, Sylvie Vézina, Danièle Longpré, Michel Boissonnault, Emmanuelle Huchet, Louise Charest, Daniel Murphy, Benoît Trottier, Nimâ Machouf
PEP Adherence and Efficacy: Research Abstract
There is limited evidence on the efficacy of post-exposure prophylaxis (PEP) for sexual exposures. We sought to determine the factors associated with adherence to treatment and describe the incidence of PEP failures in a Montreal clinic.
We prospectively assessed all patients consulting for PEP following sexual exposures from October 2000 to July 2014. Patients were followed at 4 and 16 weeks after starting PEP. Treatment adherence was determined by self-report at week 4. Multivariable logistic regression was used to estimate the factors predicting adherence to treatment.
3547 PEP consults were included. Patients were mainly male (92%), MSM (83%) and sought PEP for anal intercourse (72%). Seventy-eight percent (n=2772) of patients received a prescription for PEP, consisting of Tenofovir/Emtracitabine (TVD) + Lopinavir/Ritonavir (LPV) in 74% of cases, followed by Zidovudine/Lamivudine (CBV) + LPV (10%) and TVD + Raltegravir (RAL) (8%). Seventy percent of patients were adherent to treatment. Compared to TVD+LPV, patients taking CBV+LPV were less likely to adhere to treatment (OR 0.58, 95% CI 0.44-0.75), while no difference was observed for patients taking TVD+RAL (OR 1.15, 95% CI 0.83-1.59). First-time PEP consults, older and male patients were also more adherent to treatment. Ten treated patients seroconverted (0.37%) during the study period, yet only 1 case can be attributed to PEP failure (failure rate=0.04%).
PEP regimen was associated with treatment adherence. Patients were more likely to be adherent to TVD-based regimens. Ten patients seroconverted after taking PEP; however, only 1 case was a PEP failure as the remaining patients continued to engage in high-risk behavior during follow-up. One month PEP is an effective preventive measure to avoid HIV infection.
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SQL Server 2019 Preview Bakes In Big Data
By David Ramel
Microsoft introduced a preview of the latest edition of its flagship RDBMS, SQL Server 2019, highlighting new Big Data capabilities.
The company said v2019 creates a unified data platform by packaging Apache Spark and Hadoop Distributed File System (HDFS) in with the SQL Server database engine, helping data developers seamlessly ingest, store and analyze vast amounts of data.
This integration is crucial to evolving the product in the age of Big Data, Microsoft said, because a single instance of SQL Server was never designed or built to handle analytics on the scale of petabytes or exabytes that are common in Big Data analytics implementations.
Also, Microsoft said while announcing the preview at its Ignite conference, this new Big Data integration takes SQL Server even further beyond its roots as a traditional database. Asad Khan, principal PM manager, SQL Server, expounded more about that and other details in a blog post. "And as with every release, SQL Server 2019 continues to push the boundaries of security, availability, and performance for every workload with Intelligent Query Processing, data compliance tools and support for persistent memory," Khan said. "With SQL Server 2019, you can take on any data project, from traditional SQL Server workloads like OLTP, Data Warehousing and BI, to AI and advanced analytics over Big Data."
[Click on image for larger view.] SQL Server 2019 (source: Microsoft).
It was the baked-in Spark and HDFS functionality that highlighted the preview announcement, however. Microsoft calls this new integrated architecture a "Big Data cluster," and the company's Travis Wright, principal program manager, SQL Server, provided more information in a blog post yesterday (Sept. 25). "The SQL Server 2019 relational database engine in a Big Data cluster leverages an elastically scalable storage layer that integrates SQL Server and HDFS to scale to petabytes of data storage," Wright said. "The Spark engine that is now part of SQL Server enables data engineers and data scientists to harness the power of open source data preparation and query programming libraries to process and analyze high-volume data in a scalable, distributed, in-memory compute layer."
Wright provided more details on Big Data clusters in an interview with our sister publication, RedmondMag.com, where our resident SQL Server expert, Joey D'Antoni, and Wright discussed the new breakthrough. D'Antoni focused on the clusters providing a scale-out, data virtualization platform built on top of the Kubernetes (K8s) container platform. He noted the clusters amount to a lot of change in the platform in one swoop and asked Wright if he foresees any gaps to adoption, and what Microsoft is doing to mitigate that.
"Probably the most obvious adoption hindrance will be the K8s/container adoption for database workloads," Wright replied. "Companies are getting on the bandwagon, similar to virtualization. [Another hindrance is] container questions. When people see how easy it is to deploy a SQL Server Availability Group into K8s, it makes it a no-brainer."
[Click on image for larger view.] Big Data Clusters Provide 'A Complete AI Platform' (source: Microsoft).
Also, artificial intelligence (AI) functionality in Big Data clusters was highlighted in the new preview, echoing the emphasis that Microsoft put on AI capabilities across many new products and features announced at the ongoing Ignite conference in Orlando.
"SQL Server 2019 Big Data clusters provide a complete AI platform," Microsoft said. "Data can be easily ingested via Spark Streaming or traditional SQL inserts and stored in HDFS, relational tables, graph, or JSON/XML. Data can be prepared by using either Spark jobs or Transact-SQL (T-SQL) queries and fed into machine learning model training routines in either Spark or the SQL Server master instance using a variety of programming languages, including Java, Python, R, and Scala. The resulting models can then be operationalized in batch scoring jobs in Spark, in T-SQL stored procedures for real-time scoring, or encapsulated in REST API containers hosted in the Big Data cluster."
D'Antoni also covered the many other new features in SQL Server 2019 in a separate wrap-up, where he detailed security, database performance enhancements, availability and more.
"SQL Server 2019 is still in the early preview stage," said D'Antoni, an architect and SQL Server MVP with more than a decade of experience. "There are still many more things to come between now and the time SQL Server 2019 becomes generally available. However, it is clear that Microsoft continues to make big investments in the data platform and is working hard to keep it available and consistent across server and data platforms, expanding the broader audience for data services."
David Ramel is an editor and writer for Converge360.
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Karen Tweed and Tom McElvogue find the heart of the music on 'Luckpenny'
Posted by TradConnect on October 9, 2017 at 13:30
Luckpenny is the first recording collaboration between Karen Tweed (piano accordion) and Tom McElvogue (flute) and embraces the music they grew up playing – Irish Traditional reels, jigs and hornpipes. The album has been described as “a delightful musical conversation shared by two musicians on top of the world celebrating the repertoire they used to share at the Listowel or Kilkenny Fleadh Cheoil many moons ago and still do today."
Karen Tweed is the mercurial and lyrical accordionist extraordinaire whose exploration of this amazing instrument beautifully illustrates her eloquent, eccentric, hilarious and sentimental nature. Her collaborations have included Finnish composer/pianist Timo Alakotila in May Monday; Ian Carr, Karen Street, Kathryn Tickell, The Poozies, SWAP, Wood & Cutting and Colum Sands, while she is in high demand as a teacher, mentor and inspirer at universities and workshops worldwide.
She has recorded on over 160 CDs, published 3 accordion manuals, as well as the first volume of her fully illustrated book of compositions. She is also a respected illustrator, cartoonist and designer.
Born of English parents in Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Tom’s passion for Irish music was realised during the repeated practice sessions of his sister’s Irish dancing. While his sisters were practising their dancing to Irish music records, Tom was able to learn the music by ear and play it back on the recorder. His parents were advised to enroll him in music lessons with the local branch of Comhaltas Ceoltóirí Éireann in order to develop this talent and from this point on, he progressed from recorder to tin whistle and then flute where he won almost every competition he entered culminating in the Senior All Ireland Flute title in Sligo in 1990.
Over recent years he has focused on writing music rather than performing, mostly due to work commitments. Many of his tunes have since made their way into the tradition, having been recorded on dozens of albums, which is a testament to their quality, authenticity and popularity.
Our sample track includes The Honeymoon, Fahy’s, Devanney’s Goat and Eddie Moloney’s. Regarding these tune Karen and Tom say: “We learned the Honeymoon from a recording of flute player Billy Clifford entitled “Irish Traditional Flute Solos and Band Music from Kerry and Tipperary”. We’re not sure if the album is still available commercially but we did manage to find it recently on the internet. Tom recalls spending many nights learning tunes from Billy Clifford’s playing and hope that this album will be re-issued.
The second tune we believe was written by Paddy Fahy. Like most of the tunes named Fahy’s, we’re not fully sure if it was written by the man himself or credited to him for popularising it. It sounds like a Fahy tune to us though so we are crediting him as the composer. Devanney’s Goat is another old tune listed in Ceol Rince na hEireann Volume 2 (tune 267). Tom first learned this tune and the one that follows from a flute recording of Frankie Gavin (Up and Away).
We follow this as he did with Eddie Moloney’s reel. Again, Tom is not sure if Eddie wrote this but since his name is lent to the tune we’re crediting him with the composition. If there are any flute players out there who haven’t heard the Frankie Gavin flute album, my word you’re in for a pleasant surprise when you do!"
Next week we will be publishing a more detailed backstory to Karen and Tom’s journey to the recording of this album. In it they state that while living in Longford last year they witnessed the long term illness and resulting death of their dear friend, Paul Ruane. Somehow, this tragic event, more than any other, made Tom and Karen wish to celebrate their simple love of music that Paul always quietly shared. The bare melodies, the soaring phrases that need nothing more than being played well and with love.
They say that “this recording ‘Luckpenny,’ has inspired a new journey, because now there is nowhere to hide – questions arose about settings, keys, flute-friendly vs. accordion-friendly repertoire and mostly, the discussions were brief: the tune and when it was first discovered, always won.
The recording quickly became about essence: dropping any clutter, accompaniment or arrangement ideas (including the accordion bass) was obvious. They feel that this music of Ireland is so strong, so grounded, so beautiful and so full of epic story that is needs nothing, just the breath and the love it has given to them over so many years. This music has nothing to prove and has been Karen and Tom’s individual therapy, mindfulness and guide in the most difficult times. It thrives and blossoms – Tom and Karen rediscovered all this simply by playing with these great Longford and Roscommon collectors!”
The album is now available on CD and download direct from the artists websites below; preview clips can also be heard and sleeve notes can be downloaded as a free PDF from: www.karentweed.com and www.tommcelvogue.com
The album is also available as a free fownload to Irish Radio Broadcasters who are part of our Download Centre. Contact us for more details and access.
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SOUTHEAST ASIA BUILDING02 Oct 2019
Foster + Partners to design Shanghai Luye Lilan Hospital
Photo: © Foster + Partners
Foster + Partners to design Shanghai Luye Lilan Hospital Luye Medical, Cleveland Clinic and Foster + Partners are coming together to create a new state-of-the-art general medical hospital in Shanghai’s New Hong Qiao International Medical Center (IMC) campus. The project will create the world’s first ‘Cleveland Clinic Connected’ project to provide top-class healthcare facilities. The design challenges the traditional hospital model to provide value-based, patient-centric healthcare, that will enhance patient experience and improve recovery times, while attracting and retaining the best medical professionals from across China and the rest of the world.
Ben Scott, Partner, Foster + Partners said: “China’s extraordinary growth story presents immense potential to push the boundaries of innovation in healthcare. The Shanghai Luye Lilan Hospital offers an opportunity to create a new world-leading blueprint for healthcare in the future, integrating latest technology and patient-centric care in a flexible facility that is immersed in nature.”
There is a wealth of evidence to suggest that access and views to green spaces can improve recovery times and contribute to better clinical outcomes for patients, while providing a more comfortable workplace for medical staff. The building is surrounded by a rich landscape and flooded with natural light. Its comparative low-height offers a more intimate and domestic scale, allowing patients to feel at ‘home’ and better connected with the surrounding greenery whilst maximising interconnectivity for staff to create a cross- disciplinary working environment. A central circulation hub with a full-height open atrium makes wayfinding intuitive and reduces travel times for patients and staff. The building form lends itself to modular planning – the functions and spaces assigned to them are interchangeable, allowing for flexibility to adapt to future changes in the building layout and the integration of new technology.
The hospital will establish world-leading clinical specialities such as cardiology, urology, digestive disease, and oncology. The building design will promote collaboration between the different departments by integrating social spaces that encourage chance encounters and knowledge sharing between staff as well as providing dedicated areas for staff research and learning.
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STLV: Rod Roddenberry Unveils ‘Fan Census’ Project + Gene Roddeberry’s Grandson Makes Con Debut
| August 1, 2014 | By: Jared Whitley 20 comments so far
Although The Great Bird of the Galaxy left us in 1991, his name is going to live on if son Eugene “Rod” Roddenberry has anything to say about it. At the Las Vegas Star Trek convention on Friday Rod Roddenberry announced a new initiative for the fans, plus gave Gene Roddenberry’s grandson his Trek convention debut. More details below
Roddenberry Launches "Warp 5.0 Fan Census"
Unlike his mother Majel, who passed in 2008, Rod had been an anonymous member of Trek’s First Family until unveiling the heartfelt and remarkably candid documentary Trek Nation in 2011. Rod spoke to conventioneers Friday afternoon with his friend and business partner Trevor Roth, unveiling a variety of projects to extend his family’s legacy.
The second most interesting new project from Team Roddenberry was the "Warp 5.0: Fandom’s Two-Year Trek Toward Sci-Fi’s Golden Anniversary.” Rod is kicking off the Warp 5.0 campaign with the first ever star trek "fan census" that will allow you to record your favorite Star Trek memory and listen to those of other fans around the world. The first of these are being recorded at the Vegas convention this weekend, including one recorded by Rod himself.
Wikia and Roddenberry Entertainment are teaming to allow fans from around the world to submit videos highlighting their favorite Star Trek memories. The project will continue through to a celebration of the franchise’s 50th anniversary in 2016. “We’re starting our celebration a bit early,” Rod said with a smile. More information on the project is available at TrekInitiative.Wikia.com.
Gene Roddenberry’s Grandson Makes Con Debut
The most interesting project Rod Roddenberry unveiled, however, was a bit tinier: his 1-year-old son, Zale Roddenberry, who – accompanied by his mother Heidi – made his Star Trek debut this year.
That’s one small step for a baby, one giant leap for Trek-kind.
Roddenberry Doesn’t See Trek Back On TV Until Abrams Movies Wrap
Getting off the topic of Roddenberry projects, Rod ventured into the future of the franchise his father created, Rod and speculated that Star Trek would indeed return to its roots with a new TV series. However Roddenberry doesn’t believe it will be in time for the 50th anniversary in 2016 – also the year of the release of the next Star Trek feature film. Roddenberry believes there won’t be another Trek show while the Abrams-verse is still creating new movies.
TrekMovie is in Vegas all weekend with team coverage of the Star Trek convention. Look for more repots on panels and what else is happening in Vegas in the coming days.
Cygnus-X1
In Rod We Trust.
Captain Robert April
Yeah, let’s wait until we can get JJ out of Star Trek’s system before trying another series.
Then call in Seth McFarlane, he’s got a pretty good idea of what made Star Trek work and how to kick it into high gear without making it stupid.
scifib5st
Don’t overlook st ST Anaxnar!
“I need your help, Number One. I just made number two.”
He’s a cutie.
Treknut
lol CmdrR. Very funny.
Sadly, if Seth McFarlane gets ahold of Trek, that kind of humor is all we’d hear in the dialog.
Seth MacFarlane? Are you high? Seth may be a Trek fan, and I love his shows, but he should never be in charge of Trek in any way, ever.
Finnigan
Say no to MacFarlane.
Let the Axanar folks do the next Trek TV series and have it be TOS style, not iTrek.
IDIC Lives!
Both Rod and Zale look like Gene. :-)
Disinvited
#5. Treknut – August 2, 2014
Funny, I didn’t hear MacFarlane’s Ha-ha funny joke tone in his COSMOS.
Frank Brown
I think Seth McFarlane would play it straight. I don’t believe it would be Family Guy in outer space.
That being said, I’m seriously impressed with the guys doing Axanar. I’ve got a feeling that little production is going places.
I am not Herbert
…yes, let’s hope the JJ-verse “wraps” SOON! PLEASE!! nu-trek sucks!
Axanar on Netflix! Make it so!! =D
@10. Did you see Seth hosting the Oscars? Probably the best chance he has had his whole career to “play it straight” and he couldn’t do it there. Frankly I don’t think he is capable of “playing it straight”.
#13. Who cares – August 3, 2014
GEESH, you don’t actually think the academy hires comedians and comic actors to host because they DON’T want them to be funny? Do you?
Again, as for whether he can “play it straight”, I refer you to his COSMOS.
@Disinvited. If he had actually been funny at the Oscard that might have some bearing, but sorry “thanks for showing your boobs” is not funny, and that is just the tip of the iceberg. It was worse than Cyrus’s “twerking” show.
the baby is adorable!
What makes you think that? Have you seen his stuff?
# 17. Jack – August 4, 2014
“ What makes you think that? Have you seen his stuff?” — Jack
I’ve watched his new COSMOS and I think some excellent Trek could be done in that vein.
Mina McPherson
The bullies hating on NuTrek need to stop going to every site to spam us with their drivel.
Star Trek’s core values are all about diversity and accepting differences etc., so anyone who goes around putting down parts of Trek rather than accepting the franchise as a whole, is NOT a true fan.
People also need to stop trying to twist the words of anyone around to try and put down the reboot. Rod’s speculations of when there might be a series one day or not, are just his guesses, and in no way justifies the haters “yeah let’s get rid of the new Trek” nonsense.
Randall Williams
As far as a new Star Trek Television show is concerned, Robert Orci and
company made a pitch for one to the CBS Executives who turned it down,
saying they were not interested in starting a new Trek series at that time.
Remember Abrams wanted the rights to Trek and the merchandising –
concerning the latter he did not want any Star Trek merchandise out
there which came before his version of Trek. He also wanted to start
a new Trek TV series and a new Trek movie every 2 years, but the whole
deal fell through when it came down to money. So eventually Abrams
left Trek for Star Wars and got the deal for Star Wars he wanted for
Trek. He isn’t coming back to Trek as a Director any time soon.
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The Life Autistic
Stories from the spectrum
About H2
About The Life Autistic
What not to make Right or Wrong about Autism
January 16, 2020 January 16, 2020 ~ H2 ~ Leave a comment
I’m not ignoring you.
I’m just focused.
My focus doesn’t pivot to you right away; I’m not trying to ignore you.
It’s not wrong.
It’s hard to explain, but when my interest points get touched off in a certain way, we sort of bury ourselves in it. It’s a drill that bores into the earth and bedrock of curiosity, soothing our minds, its own stim, a certain kind of indulgent itch that isn’t scratched because we don’t care about—
You get it. At least we hope you do.
There are many autistic things that autistic people do that aren’t a matter of right and wrong.
My friend Josh has an autistic son. When I visit, he’s usually pretty focused on something, whether a game, task, or enjoying console game speedruns on YouTube.
I’ll say “Hey Michael” and leave it at that. Since I’m not a thoughtless boor, I don’t insist he reply or acknowledge me. If I pulled the “Son, you answer a grown-up when he’s talking at ya” card, Josh would rightly clock me in the jaw.
He’s not being rude.
He’s just focused.
He’s not trying to be rude.
He’s not wrong.
You can go back to that four sentence sequence and fill it in with your behavior and response. Unless you know someone who is autistic and malicious, we’re probably not being malicious, mean, standoffish, rude, whatever.
These four-sentence sequences will help you help us tremendously.
Try them out:
She’s not standoffish. She just doesn’t relate to the conversational topics at hand and won’t make it awkward. She’s not trying to be antisocial. She’s not wrong.
They’re not defiant. They just struggle to focus on sitting still while focusing on your lesson. They’re not always trying to disobey. They’re not wrong.
He’s not a jerk. He just relays feedback in an economical way that’s stripped down to its essence. He’s not trying to make you feel terrible. He’s not wrong.
They’re not insensitive. They’re just locked into their routine of clearing the table at this time. They didn’t throw away your papers because they hate you. They’re not wrong.
It’s not that we need a pass for everything. We work hard to figure a lot of the faux pas, awkward traps, and insensitivity pitfalls.
As we do that work, we may not always be right. We’re not always wrong either.
Blaze it abroad
Impostor Syndrome & Autism: The One Hope in this No-Win Scenario
I’ve been fortunate to work toward a half-decent level of professional success, but the further I go, the more accomplished the audience, the more I feel that onset of impostor syndrome.
At this point, I’m not so much concerned that people are going to unravel my disguise. I feel I’m donning fake glasses and comical mustache combo, wondering why no one has figured out my identity yet.
It’s hard for normal people, and harder for us on the spectrum.
Due to spectrum superpowers, I read quickly, retain a massive wealth of information, and recall most of it in a flash — people assume I’m smart, and that’s the peril.
It follows you.
So when I struggle to understand an abstract concept, or find myself flailing on simple maths that I’d need a calculator for, I am doomed by the “smart” label.
I remember my parents calling me into the kitchen, the concern traced across their brow.
“Hunter, what happened on this geometry test? Are you OK?”
I’d missed four questions and gotten a 60. They’d never seen that, and it was unfathomable to them that I could actually be bad at geometry.
Or when my college classmates were shocked at me getting a D+ on a presentation, as if they’d sooner believe I’d murder someone in cold blood.
Despite the achievements and efforts I’ve made in my analysis career, I always feel I’m a mortal among the titans, the lone human among Mount Olympus, one failure away from being reduced to a mere pretender.
It’s so much harder through the fabric of autism, too.
I’m an odd, strange, offbeat, oversharing person, more funny than fun, more social over a video chat, yet I maintain a reputation I enjoy and benefit from, one in which I almost feel like another person: social, “almost charming,” and energetic. Those attributes aren’t furtive, but they feel summoned from an aether of otherness.
No one could really like Hunter, I surmise. And thus, who they like must be an impostor.
It feels like a no-win scenario, where I’m working through a persona who doubts both the self of himself and the accomplishment.
But there’s hope.
If you’re familiar with Star Trek and/or no-win scenarios, you know of the Kobyashi Maru. Where Captain Kirk won through circumvention and cunning. But a win’s a win, right?
Yeah, we’re not that clever.
But we are resilient.
Like Scotty, the Enterprise’s Chief Engineer who also took the test – setting an unlikely record in the process.
He didn’t win, but he lasted longer than anyone else: using every kind of arcane, profound, and experimental engineering construct, maneuver, hack, you name it — Scotty took out wave after wave of enemy ships until he was kicked out of the test for using methods that’d only work in theory, but not practice.
But he lasted.
That’s the hope.
Digging into where talent fails and work prevails. Where some lateral thinking helps scale upward. Where we try everything in the book and beyond the margins just to last a little bit longer.
My One Weird Autistic Interview Trick
January 9, 2020 January 9, 2020 ~ H2 ~ 1 Comment
I’m not a quick thinker. But I am a slow thinker.
Yet I’ve found that the quickest thinking in the moment comes from the slowest thinking over many moments.
In college, PL 304 American Government loomed large in the minds of many History and Political Science majors because of a daunting assignment: the independent study.
It wasn’t just a study; it was an event. When the day arrived, you had to produce what amounted to an entire novella written from scratch, in class, off the cuff — like writing an entire research paper from start to finish within 45 minutes.
This wasn’t something I’d be able to do well within the confines of the class. So I used the one thing I knew I could do to produce this independent study essay.
Brute force.
In the weeks preceding the “event,” I wrote the entire essay beforehand. All 45 minutes worth. Six times.
After six times, I’d pretty much memorized—via brain, manuscript, and muscle—the entire paper that I’d be asked to produce.
So when the time came, I didn’t have to think on my feet to write out a A-worthy essay. I just used all that slow, laborious thinking and action to recall it on the spot.
That is my interview trick.
I know I’m terrible at interview scenarios. It’s a process not geared for those of us on The Life Autistic. Instant recall of narratives, scenarios, needing to act personable and often formidable in the slices of instants of moments. There are unknowns within unknowns.
It’s hard!
So I prep like a prognosticating, predictive madman, on par with Borgesian characters whose memories would construct entire plays within frozen moments or the turns of leaves on the trees throughout the day.
People love to ask “Tell me about a time when . . .”
So I write down and speak to all the possible, nigh-infinite times when . . . anything would have happened. All the conversations, failures, learning opportunities, actions, strategies, emergencies.
It’s an exhaustive and sometimes exhausting strategy.
But it works.
Even when it comes to the hypotheticals, the “what would you do for . . .” — that’s all a matter of planning, plotting, speaking to all the scenarios: change management, steering a ship, unfurling a business plan, and then some.
Exhaustive. Exhausting.
Know what else is exhausting for us though?
The quick thinking. The stress. The answers on the fly. Eye contact. Not using big words.
I’ll take the exhaustive approach any day.
I don’t always get every position I interview for. Yet apparently, I do much better than expected? More often than not, I’m getting further than I should be – like a super middleweight somehow holding his own against heavyweights.
And in fact, I just missed a position – where it came down to the final two people out of four hundred people. That’s not a bad achievement!
I brute forced it the best I could. 🙂
Don’t Assume, Do Specify – Breakfast with Autism
January 6, 2020 January 4, 2020 ~ H2 ~ Leave a comment
When my mom orders a dozen of something through a drive-thru, she’ll say “a dozen [whatevers] . . . TWELVE.”
That’s all because of one order a long while ago, when my parents ordered a dozen biscuits from a Hardee’s. The cashier paused for a second too long, then asked:
“How many is that?”
We all laugh. Then I remember.
People kinda have to do similar with me.
Just the other day, Mrs. H2 asked for
two slices of toast
with homemade jam
that we just got as a gift
Ok, that’s easy. So I
toasted two slices of bread
applied the homemade jam
that we got as a gift
I bring it over. She asks: did you butter this?
Let’s look over items 1, 2, and 3 again.
Toast. Jam. Specifically, the gifted jam. There’s no butter.
“No, I didn’t butter it?”
My best (also breakfast-related mishap) was when I was sent to get “plain old Maple syrup” — here were my options:
Did I pick the wrong “plain old Maple syrup?”
Of course I did.
This is why The Life Autistic is just hard. There are so many assumed, unspoken specifics we just miss.
We can try. It’s a learning process, bizarre as it sounds. But in the meantime:
Don’t assume; do specify!
We’re working on this, and it’s ok for y’all to be specific, spelling things out, and making sure you’re coming across as unambiguous. It’ll help!
The Next Decade in Autism
I came across a ranking of someone’s best albums of the decade and realized “Wow, decades are long, and there’s no way I remember all of this.”
It’s the frame with which I’m going into these new Roaring Twenties: If I can barely recall the events of the last ten years, I’m probably not going to predict the next ten years any better.
Ten years ago I’d have guessed I’d be in management, living in a modest home, likely sans kiddos, and writing fiction books.
End of decade: I’m in data (which would SHOCK my math-averse younger self), with two lovely gals and a third kiddo en route, in a home I’ve come to love, and not writing fiction at all (unless you count my wild rural satire ventures).
Guessing and predicting are fools errands — but there’s a better way to play the long game.
What helped me most the last decade was growth. Growing in skills, understanding, kindness, advocacy, introspection, and transparency. The challenges also grew, but I felt I grew in ways to meet them better.
This next decade, I’m hopeful that The Life Autistic will get better. Not just mine, but those of others.
Not many years ago, an autism diagnosis was considered a death sentence. A grim judgment. A daunting challenge.
I remember a random church visit, meeting a mom who introduced her son, worryingly adding that he had “Asperger’s syndrome.” He must have been five. I could just tell it was at the forefront of her mind, like she needed that out in the open to justify and help explain whatever behaviors he might demonstrate.
I wanted to talk to her, reassure her somehow, assuage that lingering fear that she aired so openly. I didn’t. And I wonder what became of that boy, who seemed nothing but curious and focused and perfectly fine.
There’s still a long way to go, but kids with autism today have it much better. There’s “awareness” now, so at least it’s in the aether. Organizations offer support. The ripples of empathy have emanated further into the pond of understanding. We’re getting there.
It’d be awesome for the rest of us—the ones well cloaked, adapted and masked to the rest of the world—to enter and exit this next decade supported, understood, and appreciated even better.
Where our need to decouple isn’t seen as aloof.
Where we can use a big word without being deemed snooty.
Where our occasional directness won’t erase goodwill or be seen as rude.
Where our sensory needs and preferences aren’t onerous to others or detrimental to us.
Where we can stim, flex, and warp in and our of normal and be welcomed back.
Where our difference goes beyond tolerated to celebrated.
Where we can be us, only more so.
Here’s to where we end up by 2030.
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Category: Big 12 Championship
The Schooner Pod: Big 12 Champions Again!
The Sooners are Big 12 Champions and are going to the College Football Playoff! Bobby and Jamison break down this week’s championship performance against Texas, look at the debate that sprung OU into the Playoff, take a trip to the ‘Crutin Corner and discuss the Heisman race.
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Author Bobby HowardPosted on December 6, 2018 September 26, 2019 Categories Alabama, Big 12 Championship, Orange Bowl, Podcasts, TexasTags FeaturedLeave a comment on The Schooner Pod: Big 12 Champions Again!
Oklahoma Wins the Big 12 Championship, Beats Texas 39-27
What a day in college football! Yesterday was a whirlwind and honestly was one of those days where you just forget about all responsibility. While yesterday that included “writing about a major event that happened to the literal one team you cover in your sports blog”, I have some big notes from a big win over Texas.
How about that defense? The effort definitely was a step up from earlier games this season and the quality of play was just incredible. Weirdly enough, the defense probably was what kept OU close early on as the offense struggled to get the ball in the endzone.
While the defense looked great, it was abundantly clear that the Texas offense we saw at the Cotton Bowl was an outlier. Sam Ehlinger looked brutal throwing the ball and couldn’t establish the run game the same way he did in October. The defense of course gets credit for putting pressure on him, but in general you could see this was a Texas team that didn’t have the same juice.
The amount of “horns down” salt was wonderful. The Big 12 Commissioner getting booed to high heaven was the peak.
Another rocky start for Kyler Murray. There were some missed throws here and there and he needed a few penalties to advance the ball. However, Murray really turned it around as he usually does, putting up 379 though the air and 39 on the ground.
Not the best rushing performance for the Sooners this year, but we got to see a lot more Trey Sermon which was nice.
That safety though!!!!
Grant Calcaterra, I am so sorry for referring to you as “stone hands” this season and will bury the nickname forever.
The Hollywood Brown injury could be a huge blow, but we’ll have to see if it’s anything serious. The month layoff really helps.
Overall, I’m impressed with OU’s resolve to stay composed in this ballgame. They have shown the ability time after time this season to weather the storm and outlast teams, something that will be vital in the game (game?) to come.
MVP: Tre Brown
It’s been a tough go for this OU defense, especially the secondary, but it was the difference maker in this one. Tre Brown exemplified that effort today with 7 tackles (5 solo) and an enormous safety that helped the Sooners recapture the momentum after an unfortunate redzone fumble. He also had a solid kick return as well. Other players might have more numbers on the offensive end, but in the eyes of this little blog, Tre Brown made the gritty big plays needed to keep OU in this one.
LVP: “Red River at Jerry World” Supporters, Texas fans in general
The debate of whether or not this game should move to Arlington should be settled: it is a resounding no. While I enjoyed the atmosphere a ton in a one off kind of way, it couldn’t hold a candle to Fair Park, especially when it comes to the pregame atmosphere. Inside, the atmosphere was special but it seemed like it was missing something. I dunno, the “OU sucks” chants from the Longhorn fans just seemed a little quieter today, the “Boomer Sooner” chants never got fired up. I know chants shouldn’t decide the location of a football game, but this seemed more like a generic big game than a hallowed rivalry. Which I’m all about, but just keep it in December.
As for Texas fans? I’ve never seen a saltier group of people in my life. Hope they enjoy their Hat though.
Up Next: The unknown. I’ll be sure to write about it sooner this time.
Author Bobby HowardPosted on December 2, 2018 July 22, 2019 Categories B12 18, Big 12 Championship, News, TexasTags FeaturedLeave a comment on Oklahoma Wins the Big 12 Championship, Beats Texas 39-27
Weekend Spread: Championship Week
Final Regular Season Standings
Bobby: 7-1 (55-48)
Jamison: 3-5 (48-55)
Blake: 6-2 (55-48)
The regular season is officially over and from here on out we are in “ring game” season. We have a tie at the top between Blake and Bobby, meaning we must push on into sudden death; fitting for Championship Week. In the spirit of the week, we are
#1 Alabama v. #4 Georgia (ALA -13)
Bobby: This one is gonna be huge. While I don’t know if Alabama has been truly tested this season, Georgia will without a doubt be a tough task for the Tide. Bama’s defense this season has been a bit more suspect than usual, the Bulldog offense just simply won’t be able to keep up with Tua Tagovailoa and crew. I think Alabama will win, but Georgia will keep it close enough to stress out everyone in Norman and Columbus. Georgia, +13
Jamison: I really believe Georgia has a shot to make it close here if Alabama plays like they did versus Auburn, but I suspect they were looking ahead to this game. Alabama’s defense has been so underrated this year because of their offense. Go look at a mock draft and you’ll see more Alabama names than usual. This is also a team that shutout LSU on the road. Give me Alabama here, as their defense will step up. HUGE game for OU fans. Roll Tide. Alabama, -13
Blake: This Alabama team is the best team I have seen, but I still have hope that some team can beat them this season. I think I have my best chance here with Georgia. Alabama two best wins this season are LSU and Mississippi State. Both of these teams are very one dimensional being defense only teams. Alabama has not played a real offense this season and Georgia is just that. Georgia is deep at every position and a very well-rounded team, which might give Alabama fits. Alabama still wins this game close, but Georgia breaks Alabama’s streak of beating teams by 20+ points. Alabama, -13
#2 Clemson v. Pitt (CLEM -26.5)
Bobby: For the most part, conference championship games are nothing but an annoying slate of cash grabs that don’t really matter. The division system used in most conferences produces some absolutely awful matchups due to the usual inability to match up the two best teams in the conference. This game is a shining example of a garbage conference championship.
Pitt is a team that has no business in anything titled a “championship”. Outside of Clemson, the ACC has been an inconsistent dumpster fire. While the Tigers have been inconsistent down the stretch, this Pitt team is just too bad to have any real shot at the upset. They’ll keep it just close enough to backdoor cover though. Pittsburgh, +26.5
Jamison: Why Pitt? I really can’t tell you. I’ve done so poor picking this year and I am completely out of the running. I’ll win the bowl pick ‘em though, no doubt. But, back to this game, why pick a team that lost to UNC? Because Clemson has zero respect for this game. At least tOSU is playing for style points in their game vs. Northwestern. Clemson needs to win, and it does not matter by how much. They’re going to the Orange Bowl regardless. Pittsburgh, +26.5
Blake: This is a prime example of why conferences need to adopt a Big 12 round-robin style conference play. There is NO reason why you should be a 27-point favorite over the other “best” team in the conference. I would rather see another Clemson-Syracuse showdown than this mess. How can one conference be so shallow?! Clemson in an easy win. Clemson, -26.5
#6 Ohio State v. #22 Northwestern (tOSU -14)
Bobby: Another garbage conference championship. Northwestern snuck into this one by beating up on the soft Big Ten East after going winless in non-conference play. I’ll give them this; they keep every game close, no matter if its Michigan or Illinois. While most are expecting to see a Buckeye blowout here with a College Football Playoff berth potentially being on the line, I’m not so certain. Ohio State has been wildly inconsistent this season and I could see them tripping up here. I’ll take Northwestern to cover but honestly could see this game being a push. Northwestern, +14
Jamison: Ohio State will win this one big for style points. After they see the result of the OU game, their goal will be to one-up us to increase their resume. I understand Northwestern has played everyone close, but all in all, they do not have much to hang their head high on for this season. Ohio State big, with a lot of points coming in the 4th quarter. Ohio State, -14
Blake: I have a weird feeling about this game. Everyone is now just jumped on the Ohio State bandwagon after they beat Michigan last week, but all these people forget that the Buckeyes have been one of the most disappointing teams this season. Besides being blown out by Purdue, they have barely beat Nebraska and Maryland (neither are bowl eligible). I know this Northwestern team is bad, but are we sure Ohio State is any good? They aren’t, and I think this Northwestern team will be able to scrap together something to keep it close and then Ohio State will pull away in the end. Set the over-under of faked illness by Urban Meyer at 2.5. Northwestern, +14
#17 Utah v. #11 Washington (UW -5) {Friday}
Bobby: As usual, the Pac 12 is completely irrelevant, as is their championship game. I will give them this: it’ll be a really nice game to watch after what is sure to be a thrilling MAC championship. Washington (who is wildly overrated I might add) popped into this game after upsetting Washington State in the Apple Cup game. I have no clue what happened in the Pac 12 South to get Utah in here, but here we are. This is a gross game, but I saw the Utes stomp a mudhole into Arizona, so I think I’ll go with them here. Utah, +5
Jamison: I picked Utah on The Schooner Pod, which in retrospect, is a really poor pick, but screw it lets keep it. The Utes are a somewhat loveable team due to their mediocrity, and never having a shot like this since the Alex Smith days. I am not condoning Utah money line like Bobby, but let’s go Utes. Utah, +5
Blake Honestly, I am offended that this game made it on the slate over the MAC championship. It is safe to say I have watched more MAC football this year than Pac 12, which is an indicator of how bad this conference is. Nothing screams “elite conference” more than two teams meeting that have three losses each. I bet on Utah last week to demolish BYU and I came away with a disappointing comeback win by Utah. This team is very indicative of their conference, disappointing. By process of elimination that leaves Washington, so I guess I will take them. Washington, -5
Memphis @ #7 Central Florida (UCF -3.5)
Bobby: We’ve already picked this game this season, a game where Memphis nearly took out the Knights and their obnoxious “nAtIoNaL cHaMpIoNsHiP” defense this season, but couldn’t finish the job. With UCF quarterback Mackenzie Milton out for the season, I think the Tigers will pull off the upset here. Memphis, +3.5
Jamison: Milton going down hurts. Memphis played them close WITH Milton. But, I can’t see the great UCF DYNASTY going down to a team like Memphis. I think that is the job of someone on January 1, 2019. UCF squeaks out a 4-point win here, and gets annihilated vs. their power 5 opponent next game. Central Florida, -3.5
Blake: Watching Mackenzie Milton go down with the injury he did last week was not the way I wanted UCF to go out this season. Sure they are still undefeated and can win their conference, but beating another P5 team in a bowl game without your star quarterback is very unlikely. All I wanted in this world is to watch UCF get crushed in a bowl game to stop all the “national champion” talk, but this victory feels very hollow. The narrative has flipped in my mind and I am now rooting for UCF to finish the season undefeated, even if it means enduring countless Twitter battles with their fans for the next year. This would be an awesome comeback story so give me UCF to win an emotional game. Central Florida, -3.5
#25 Fresno State @ #23 Boise State (BSU -2.5)
Bobby: Okay, I’m getting sick of these filler championship games. Boise State has been mediocre this season, but seeing as this game is on the blue turf, I’ll give the edge to the Broncos. Boise State, -2.5
Jamison: Last most people heard of Boise, they got crushed by OSU. That does not look quite well on their resume right now. But, out of principle, I am picking against Fresno. It is absolute garbage they got ranked over Army. Boise beat Fresno on the road, and will win in the rematch. Boise State, -2.5
Blake: I have bet against this Boise State this season twice when they were at home (Fresno and Utah State) and easily lost both bets. I should have seen this coming as I have ignored an important gambling adage: NEVER BET AGAINST BOISE ON THE SMURF TURF. Besides TCU, no team ever comes into Boise and beats this team while they are playing on the ocean blue. The field should be banned because Boise always wears blue color rush uniforms anytime they play at home, so it is impossible to see them while they play. No reason to complain too much because I am going to cash in on this easy pick. Boise St. wins the Mountain West. Boise State, -2.5
Drake @ #23 Iowa State (ISU -42.5)
Bobby: Gotta pick all the Big 12 games this week! This one is a fill-in game for the original fill in game scheduled against Incarnate Word, which was scheduled to replace Iowa State’s season opener against Akron. This game means absolutely nothing to Iowa State: their bowl position is secure and probably won’t be boosted at all. While Drake is just awful (and possibly just one person), I see them covering purely out of the Cyclones getting bored. Drake, +42.5
Jamison: Durdy’s LOCK OF THE WEEK. This is the easiest Durdy’s lock of the week ever. I promise. Put everything you own on the Bulldogs (Editor’s Note: unfortunately, it’s unavailable pretty much anywhere). Drake’s big wins vs. the Marist Red Foxes and the Butler Bulldogs will prove to be legitimate as they keep it close vs. the Cyclones. Remember, this game in Ames is at 11, which is not a spooky environment. Drake, +42.5
Blake: This has been a Cinderella season for Iowa State. The former Big 12 bottom dwellers have now found a way to finish 4th in the conference. It has been really fun watching this team grow and watch the rise of Brock Purdy. This team is going to be good for years to come and I am super excited to see them play next year. Some might say that they won’t be motivated to play this game because there is no positive or negative implementation to this game. I think the exact opposite is true. Purdy and co. are gonna come out the gates gun slinging and put a fifty-burger on Drake in the first half. Iowa State, -42.5
#5 Oklahoma v. #14 Texas (OU -7.5)
Bobby: Hoo boy. This is the big one. The past few weeks, we’ve seen Oklahoma eke out win after win against offenses having their best games of the season. While I’ve resigned myself to understanding that this is just how this is going to be this season, that doesn’t do much for my confidence in covering the spread. Texas’ offense isn’t remarkable by any means, but we’ve seen exactly what it can do against the Sooners. If OU can win the turnover battle and shut down the Sam Ehlinger run game, this one will turn out differently. Neither team will get blown out, but I think the Sooners will win comfortably this time. Honestly, I have no clue. I just know I can’t pick those dirty Longhorns. My advice? This one has enough intrigue. Save your money. Oklahoma, -7.5
Jamison: I decided this week that I was going to do everything opposite to what I did the week before the RRS. I am going to wear different clothes to the game, change my routine, and when it came down to my pick, I was going to pick Texas because I picked the Sooners last time. Nope. Can’t do that. It’s Texas Hate Week and even though it is not in the Cotton Bowl, there is no need for me to have any incentive to cheer for a close game. Collin Cowherd agrees with me here. OU in a BLOWOUT. Oklahoma, -7.5
Side Note: I think OU should put “Horns Up” after every touchdown. That is not taunting, it is only showing great sportsmanship towards our beloved neighbors.
Blake: Texas is a total paradox. They try to be cool with this whole “Ok cool. Hook Em!” thing (I have to admit it is very funny), but counter it by whining like a three-year-old about how the “Horns Down” sign is disrespectful. I don’t get it, but that is Texas for ya. They try to do things that are loveable and then ultimately just end up as the Evil Empire they have always been. I know OU has a deep flaw (notice the singular because the only flaw they have is their horrendous defense) coming into this game, but I still think they get it done in Arlington. All OU’s defense has to do is make one stop and Kyler Murray will take care of the rest. I don’t see a world where OU loses to Texas twice in one season. Boomer Sooner. Oklahoma, -7.5
Author Bobby HowardPosted on November 30, 2018 November 30, 2018 Categories Big 12 Championship, Texas, Weekend Spread1 Comment on Weekend Spread: Championship Week
The Schooner Pod: Big 12 Championship
The Big 12 Championship is here and it couldn’t be bigger: a rematch with Texas. Bobby and Jamison break down the unique atmosphere of this weekend’s game, the atmosphere difference between the Cotton Bowl and AT&T Stadium, how the Sooners and Longhorns have changed since October and what to expect on Saturday. Also, the boys pick this weekend’s championship slate and one massive non-conference game.
Author Bobby HowardPosted on November 28, 2018 September 26, 2019 Categories B12 18, Big 12 Championship, Podcasts, TexasTags Featured1 Comment on The Schooner Pod: Big 12 Championship
Game Week: Big 12 Championship (Texas)
Remember how you felt on the afternoon of October 6th?
The sickening feeling in your gut as that field goal sailed through the Cotton Bowl’s southern uprights? The numbness as you watched Austin Kendall randomly trot out for a desperation touchdown attempt? The burning anger as you listened to the burnt orange throngs of Longhorn bellow out “OU SUCKS” at the end of their fight song?
Walking out of the Cotton Bowl after a loss to Texas is one of the worst feelings as an Oklahoma football fan. It feels like all the hype of the season up to that point of the day just collapses on you, with no shot at redemption until next October.
Yes, the Sooners get another shot at Texas and the stakes have never been bigger. While the State Fair, Big Tex, the Cotton Bowl, Corny Dogs and the Golden Hat will have to wait for next season, this game still features what this hallowed rivalry really boils down to: Oklahoma, Texas, and ol’ fashioned split crowd full of pure hatred.
However this time there is an added twist, a ghost pepper thrown into an already scorching pot of chili. If OU wins, they are all-but returning to the College Football Playoff. If they lose, the season is not only a bust but they would have lost to Texas again. For both, the winner gets to celebrate a Big 12 title in front of their most hated rival.
The loser takes the most gut-wrenching walk of their life.
Meet the Longhorns:
A few weeks ago, this game looked incredibly unlikely to happen. After losing two straight game to Oklahoma State and West Virginia, Texas needed the Mountaineers to have a late season collapse to make the Big 12 title and to win out themselves. The Horns got their wish: West Virginia blew close games to both the Cowboys and Sooners to end the season. The Horns took care of business against Iowa State, thumping the Cyclones in Austin and wrapped up the season with a struggle-win against Kansas.
Texas has looked a little different since the first Saturday in October. Quarterback Sam Ehlinger, who torched the Sooner defense with his legs, hasn’t looked quite the same all season. The defense has been porous at times. In general, they aren’t quite back like we thought they were.
Don’t fool yourself; these Horns are dangerous. The quarterback running game is still there, as are receivers Lil’Jordan Humphrey and Collin Johnson. The defense can still be stingy at times. This needs to be an especially inspired and passionate performance from the Sooners for them to take home their forth straight Big 12 title on Saturday.
Who to Watch For:
WR #84 Lil’Jordan Humphrey
All season on The Schooner Pod we’ve discussed how big receivers are the biggest factor when discussing things that break apart the Oklahoma defense. There is no receiver in the Big 12 more suited to wreak havoc against the Sooners than Lil’Jordan Humprey and you don’t have to take my word for it.
Look at the tape from earlier this season and you’ll see why L.J. is a terror; the guy just simply is too big to cover for our receivers. I don’t really know how to fix this; this man will just play bully ball. I suppose you take your chances and scrap when he scraps. Look for him and Collin Johnson to give you plenty of headaches on Saturday.
QB #11 Sam Ehlinger
Just as I said in October, Ehlinger isn’t exactly a great quarterback. With that being said, he is the perfect fit for punishing the Sooner defense. In October, Ehlinger’s running game was the factor that pushed both the game and Mike Stoops over the edge, rushing for 72 yards and three touchdowns. While he is struggling with a shoulder injury, expect to see him run the ball often.
As far as passing goes, Ehlinger doesn’t need be great, but just good enough. His receivers (mentioned above) are big enough to cover up any accuracy issues that he may have. In the Red River Showdown he torched the Sooners for 314 yards and two touchdowns. For the OU defense to be successful against both him and this Texas offense they will need to put pressure on Ehlinger and confine him to the pocket.
Series History (Texas, 62-46-5)
This is gonna be a weird one. Not only was the last time the Red River Shootout was played outside the Cotton Bowl was 1923, but this game’s venue, AT&T Stadium (aka, Jerry World) couldn’t be more different. The Cotton Bowl is in the middle of a state fair; AT&T Stadium is in the middle of $60 parking. The Cotton Bowl struggles to have working plumbing; AT&T Stadium has 18 different art installations. You get the gist.
In my biased opinion, I think AT&T Stadium is a soulless corporate hole of venue, while the Cotton Bowl is holy ground that should be protected at all costs. The split on ideology of whether or not to move the main game from the State Fair has been heated already and will only grow hotter after Saturday’s game. I don’t know whether or not fans will warm up to the new digs or immediately miss their Corny Dogs and demand the Big 12 Championship move to Fair Park.
The one thing we know for sure? This will be something the likes of which we’ve never seen before.
Author Bobby HowardPosted on November 26, 2018 July 22, 2019 Categories B12 18, Big 12 Championship, Game Week, TexasTags FeaturedLeave a comment on Game Week: Big 12 Championship (Texas)
Game Week: Big 12 Championship (TCU)
The Oklahoma Sooners are one win away from a return from the College Football Playoff. This would be a lot cooler if the game we are playing actually made sense to play.
OU beat TCU, much like 8 of the 9 teams on its Big 12 schedule. In the past few years, the Sooners would have this title signed, sealed and delivered. However, because TCU and Baylor got left out of the Playoff for Ohio State in 2014, the Big 12 has a useless championship game now. A championship game that, ironically enough, can only hurt the conference’s Playoff chances.
So, reluctantly the Oklahoma Sooners will cross the border southbound to play the Red River Rivalry Jr. at 11 A.M. in a joyless, sterile stadium for a championship that should already be theirs, against a team they already soundly defeat.
Sound easy? Think again.
Who are the Horned Frogs?
I don’t trust Gary Patterson. This weaselly ass dude has something up his damn sleeve and I just know it. Sure, OU is a way better team, sure, Kenny Hill has a noodle arm and sure, TCU lost to this same Oklahoma team three weeks ago. But Patterson is a defensive genius whose teams have a penchant for winning games when nobody thinks they can.
With that being said, there is absolutely no love lost between these two sides. Between the close games since 2012, on-field antics and off-field chirping, these two teams don’t like each other. I’d expect both sides to come out fired up for this one.
Last Time We Met: November 12th, 2017 in Norman. OU 38, TCU 20
Perks of the rematch? I don’t have to write anything here, just check out my article from last month.
Student Ticket Claim:
For the lucky SOB’s that got seats in the first round, you’ll have to get them at OU’s will call at AT&T Stadium on Saturday. There was a sneaky pass out on Thursday, so the ticket office might also pass them out Friday, but I don’t really know. I would keep an eye glued to your email for more info.
As for us second round seat people, the tickets will get sent to you sometime soon via mobile entry. Of course, you need to download the AT&T Stadium app (why is this a thing?) to use the tickets. According to the confirmation email, the ticket office will email you your tickets and instructions on how to download them to the app.
AT&T Stadium:
AT&T Stadium, or Jerry World as I call it, is a structure that can only be compared to the likes of the Death Star. If you haven’t seen it before, it honestly takes your breath away when you see the enormous silver dome looming over the Texas plains.
Personally, I find the stadium an affront to college football. Inside, it’s cold, sterile and has no personality whatsoever. It’s like that one SpongeBob episode where Squidward goes to the future and everything is chrome.
Parking is an enormous, expensive and well-documented hassle here. Expect to pay big relatively bucks if you want to park within a mile of the stadium. As for Uber/Lyft, unless you are staying in Arlington, a ride would set you about 30 bucks to get there, and that’s without the surge up-charge. No matter what you do, I recommend biting the bullet and carpooling. Just make sure they actually Venmo you back.
As we are now in the postseason, it’s time to get familiar with NFL bag policies, as that’s all we’ll be seeing for awhile! AT&T Stadium has a standard strict bag policy, as outlined above.
Almost everything is expensive at Jerry World, so I recommend eating before. There are absurd things like Kobe Beef on the menu, which honestly is just ludicrous. While I know starting up early for an 11 AM game, I recommend drinking early, as beer is 9 bucks and….wait a second.
THEY SELL SMIRNOFF ICE HERE? Oh lord, the game has been changed. Get ready to get Iced randomly in a football game. These a-holes are in the year 3017.
Pregame:
Ugh. What a terrible time to have the 2nd 11 AM game of the year. Tailgating is a lost cause at Jerry World, unless you are in the know or are loaded. Even then, you need to wake up early as shit to get there and get the buzz going, and unless you want a 60+ dollar roundtrip Uber ride, you are either banking on a DD or have to suffer through a sober 11 AM game.
Because this is a modern NFL stadium, you are basically in the middle of nowhere. So good luck trying to find a bar.
Author Bobby HowardPosted on November 29, 2017 July 22, 2019 Categories B12 17, Big 12 Championship, Game WeekLeave a comment on Game Week: Big 12 Championship (TCU)
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President Obama Speech On Current Terror Threats – National Counter Terrorism Center (NCTC)…
Posted on December 18, 2015 by sundance
The full speech (both video and transcript) by President Obama yesterday at the National Counter Terrorism Center, McLean Virginia. Presented below for two reasons.
#1 To share the substantive information provided by the President of our United States.
#2 Because, in my humble opinion, having spent considerable time following nuance and inter-governmental messaging, this speech -and included insurances- as outlined within the President’s delivery, are 180° divergent from the FBI federal complaint released yesterday in the San Bernardino terrorist investigation.
Here is President Obama’s NCTC speech:
And here’s the transcript:
THE PRESIDENT: As President and Commander in Chief, my highest priority is the security of the American people. And on a regular basis, I convene members of my national security team for an in-depth review of our efforts to prevent terrorist attacks against our citizens — around the world and here at home. We examine any known and emerging threats. We review our security posture and we make sure that we’re taking every necessary measure to protect our people.
Today, I wanted to hold our meeting here — rather than in the Situation Room at the White House, I wanted to hold it at the National Counterterrorism Center because this is the hub of where so many of our experts and efforts come together. And I want to thank our Director of National Intelligence Clapper, Jim Clapper, as well as NCTC Director Nick Rasmussen, and everybody at NCTC — all of you — for welcoming us here today.
Now, Nick, along with CIA Director Brennan and FBI Director Comey, provided a threat briefing. And Director Comey and Attorney General Lynch updated us on the investigation into the San Bernardino attacks. I reiterated that the investigation will continue to have the full support of the federal government and that we should leave no stone unturned in determining why and how these terrorists carried out that tragedy. Secretary of Homeland Security Johnson updated us on the measures we’re taking here at home to increase awareness, stay vigilant, and enhance the safety of the traveling public, especially with so many Americans traveling during the holidays.
After the terrorist attacks in Paris and San Bernardino, I know that a lot of Americans were anxious. And that’s understandable. It’s natural. What matters most to all of us are our friends and our families and our communities and their safety. That’s true of folks inside of government as well as outside of government. But here’s what I want every American to know. Since 9/11, we’ve taken extraordinary steps to strengthen our homeland security — our borders, our ports, our airports, our aviation security, including enhanced watch lists and screening. And we’ve gotten much better — thanks in part to the people in this room — of preventing large, complex attacks like 9/11.
Moreover — and I think everybody here will agree — we have the very best intelligence, counterterrorism, homeland security and law enforcement professionals in the world. Our folks are the best. Across our government, these dedicated professionals, including here at NCTC, are relentless, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. At the operations center here, people from across our government work, literally shoulder-to-shoulder, pouring over the latest information, analyzing it, integrating it, connecting the dots. They’re sharing information — pushing it out across the federal government and, just as importantly, to our state and local partners. In other words, what you see here today is one, strong, united team.
So our professionals have a remarkable record of success. Of course, when terrorists pull off a despicable act like what happened in San Bernardino it tears at our hearts. But it also stiffens our resolve to learn whatever lessons we can and to make any improvements that are needed. In the meantime, what the world doesn’t always see are the successes — those terrorist plots that have been prevented. And that’s how it should be. This work oftentimes demands secrecy. But as Americans, we should not forget how good these patriots are. Over the years, they have taken countless terrorists off the battlefield. They have disrupted plots. They’ve thwarted attacks. They have saved American lives.
And so, for everybody who is involved in our counterterrorism efforts, I want to say thank you, and the American people thank you.
I want to repeat what my team just told me. At this moment, our intelligence and counterterrorism professionals do not have any specific and credible information about an attack on the homeland. That said, we have to be vigilant. As I indicated in my address to the nation last week, we are in a new phase of terrorism, including lone actors and small groups of terrorists, like those in San Bernardino. Because they are smaller, often self-initiating, self-motivating, they’re harder to detect, and that makes it harder to prevent.
But just as the threat evolves, so do we. We’re constantly adapting, constantly improving, upping our game, getting better. And today, the mission to protect our homeland goes on, on three main fronts.
First, we’re going after terrorists over there, where they plot and plan and spew their propaganda. As I described at the Pentagon, we’re hitting ISIL harder than ever in Syria and Iraq. We are taking out their leaders. Our partners on the ground are fighting to push ISIL back, and ISIL has been losing territory.
Our Special Operations Forces are hard at work. We took out the ISIL leader in Libya. We’ve taken out terrorists in Yemen and Somalia. So we’re sending a message: If you target Americans, you will have no safe haven. We will find you, and we will defend our nation.
Meanwhile, as always, we’re working to protect Americans overseas — including our military bases and servicemembers. And Secretary John Kerry updated us on security at our embassies and our diplomatic posts.
Second, we continue to do everything in our power to prevent terrorists from getting into the United States. We’re doing more with countries around the world, including our European partners, to prevent the flow of foreign terrorist fighters — both to places like Syria and Iraq, and back into our countries.
We’re implementing additional layers of security for visitors who come here under the Visa Waiver Program and we’re working with Congress to make further improvements. Any refugee coming to the United States — some of them victims of terrorism themselves — will continue to get the most intensive scrutiny of any arrival. They go through up to two years of vetting, including biometric screening. And the review that I ordered into the fiancé visa program, under which the female terrorist in San Bernardino came here, is ongoing.
Third, we’re stepping up our efforts to prevent attacks here at home. As I said, the NCTC is constantly sharing information with our state and local partners. Across the country more than 100 joint terrorism task forces are the action arm of this fight — federal, state, and local experts all working together to disrupt threats. At the state level, fusion cells are receiving tips and pushing information out to local law enforcement. Just yesterday the Department of Homeland Security updated its alert system to make sure Americans are getting the most timely and useful information.
And with groups like ISIL trying to radicalize people to violence, especially online, part of our meeting today focused on how we can continue to strengthen our partnership between law enforcement, high-tech leaders, communities, faith leaders, and citizens. We’ve got to keep on building up trust and cooperation that helps communities inoculate themselves from the kind of propaganda that ISIL is spewing out, preventing their loved ones — especially young people — from succumbing to terrorist ideologies in the first place.
And finally, one of our greatest weapons against terrorism is our own strength and resilience as a people. That means staying vigilant — if you see something suspicious, say something to law enforcement. It also means staying united as one American family — remembering that our greatest allies in this fight are each other, Americans of all faiths and all backgrounds. And when Americans stand together, nothing can beat us.
Most of all, we cannot give in to fear, or change how we live our lives, because that’s what terrorists want. That’s the only leverage that they have. They can’t defeat us on a battlefield, but they can lead us to change in ways that would undermine what this country is all about. And that’s what we have to guard against. We have to remind ourselves that when we stay true to our values, nothing can beat us.
So anyone trying to harm Americans need to know — they need to know that we’re strong and that we’re resilient, that we will not be terrorized. We’ve prevailed over much greater threats than this. We will prevail again.
So I want to once again thank all of you at NCTC and every one of your home agencies across our entire government for your extraordinary service. I want every American to know — as you go about the holidays, as you travel and gather with family, and the kids open their presents, and as you ring in the New Year — that you’ve got dedicated patriots working around the clock all across the country to protect us all. Oftentimes they’re doing so by sacrificing their own holidays and their own time with families. But they care about this deeply. And they’re the best in the world. And for that, we’re very grateful.
Thank you, everybody. Happy holidays. (link)
My hunch is: The timing of this speech and the release of the criminal complaint are not coincidental. The speech took place at 12:58 to 1:10pm EST. The Criminal Complaint was released around 6:00-7:00pm EST.
Just a hunch, but the people actually on the ground, doing the legwork inside the CA investigation, may have sent a specific message of warning with the construct of the terrorist criminal complaint – READ HERE (and below)
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224 Responses to President Obama Speech On Current Terror Threats – National Counter Terrorism Center (NCTC)…
tyrannocankles says:
Damage control.
The wording also continues to support the communized DHS strategy that leverages a combination of PC and “insulting the prophet” as a club against free speech. I sense that he is still planning to circle back around like a shark, repeatedly, and attack free speech on the next pass when he senses we’re not looking.
Justice_099 says:
Whenever a liberal suggests that the ‘hateful rhetoric creates more terrorists’, wee need to counter that with the question, “Doesn’t that just prove all the more that Islam is violent at it’s core?”
And not just that. That right there proves that Islam is fundamentally incompatible with not only the Constitution, and the Declaration, but with fundamental Western values. If Alibama wants to go there, good. We can settle the question now.
It’s like telling people that it is your fault for getting beat up because you didn’t give the bully your lunch money.
It isn’t going to change the mind of a ‘radicalized’ liberal, but most would grasp the analogy.
Sidenote: I used the term radicalized because if you look at the methods being used to radicalize Muslims, it’s eerily similar to the methods used to indoctrinate liberals. It has become like a religion to them. Their faith defies what they’re eyes should plainly see.
I like it. And add PC as a form of soft and fluffy radicalization. Makes sense to me.
Trumped says:
Its the same as telling a woman with a skirt that got raped: “YOU HAD IT COMING”
Its unbelievable that this B.S. rethoric could even go on for so long. Its like a damn mind prison.
We need to look into the Koran and if it is unconstitutional. If so it has to be banned and outlawed.
I will say this as someone who never got into the debate much about Holidays versus Merry Christmas(i said Holidays more as a lazy thing) because I didn’t care much but I notice a lot more Merry Christmases this year than I have heard in many years. Sounds silly but I think its telling of the mood of many with regards to rampant PCness.
ImpeachEmAll says:
Speaking of which, the two
grumpy old men in the pic
seem to be focused on the
fact that Socialism’s grip on
the USA is eleven months
and counting downward. 😉
Trump 2016 You betcha.
True. I would sometimes say Happy Holidays as a wish for someone’s whole Dec/early Jan holiday season. That expression had its place. I also would combine Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Sometimes, if I wasn’t sure of the other person’s religious views or if I knew them to not be Christians I would use Happy Holidays or I hope your holiday season is filled with family and friends, etc. just as a way of being thoughtful and considerate but still reaching out in friendship. Most of the time I said Merry Christmas, though. Now, I make it a point to always say Merry Christmas. That is what the “holiday” season is centered on and why we have it. I was sensitive until I was told I had to be constantly “sensitive” to others and they did not have to be sensitive to the country in which they live and their fellow countrymen and our countries tradition. When I Have to be sensitive to others and they expect me to suppress my culture in favor of theirs so as to make our public life suitable to them that changes everything.
One thing for individuals to be kind and thoughtful. Another thing for gov. to force and pop culture to shame/pressure me into it! And changing our culture to be sensitive to others is them not being sensitive to the culture in the country they chose to come to
why USA change its culture for others to be sensitive? And then Americans must be sensitive when visiting other cultures?
noritadek says:
Well said! I always say Merry Christmas and have a prosperous, healthy and happy New Year. I have jews friends and I say Happy Hanukah to them and it’s great because I celebrate Hanukah with them and I invite them for my Christmas dinner at home. Nobody gets EVER offended. It’s a matter of respect for each others beliefs.
I’ve been wishing people a Merry Christmas and they always respond the same. I too have noticed more Christmas being uttered than Holidays.
Funny you should mention that. In the past few days, I’ve said Happy Holidays (yes, I’m a trained monkey in my professional life 😦 ) and I’ve been “corrected” with Merry Christmas back to me by at least three different people.
keebler AC says:
Me too! I said Happy Holidays to an East Indian lady and she responded Merry Christmas! A Merry Christmas sign I wanted for my door was sold out in every store within 200 km. I’m thinking of driving further out to get it, lol.
deedee says:
I noticed it as well….And I go out of my way to say “Merry Christmas” much more than I used to…I
Veritas says:
Justice, excellent point. I wonder whennnnnn we will ever hear something non violent from the Muzzies?
Great analogy – the abused wife.
Fantastic argument. And the fact that Hillary made it…. Hillary, the enabler of Beelzebubba….. Wow.
Hillary the enabler of BOTH Obama and her low-life r4pist husband.
Dr. Bogus Pachysandra says:
Hellary and Billzebub!
Daniel Eggert says:
Liberals have been using the ‘hateful rhetoric causing Islamic violence’ as an excuse for a long time to curtail free speech. This is the best speech to frame the issue and put a lot of this in perspective:
It is long but the point Mark Steyn makes is well worth the watch. What else do you have to do today? LOL….
I love that guy!
He’s exactly right. Hateful rhetoric by Islamists is creating more terrorists by the minute. Meanwhile he is lying like the proverbial rug in every breath.
Doodahdaze says:
He is a whacko muslim marxist liberal. Until he is gone nothing will improve.
In Iran in 1979, the Reds joined with the Ayatollahs to take down the Shah thinking after the Shah was gone, they (the Reds) would take over. After all the Boshies had driven religion underground out of Russia, China, N Korea etc., hadn’t they? Like Obama, they underestimated the ruthlessness of the Muslims. The Reds were the ones ending up in the slammer or dangling from the end of a rope. Islam and Marxism are pretty compatible so long as Marxism agrees to be secondary to Islam. Being both, Obama will be safe no matter which sides win.
Jett Black says:
<0bum0 won’t be “safe” if his goals are achieved–he’ll be among the early purge victims, though he might get a glass sarcophagus in the capitol somewhere. Real, effective, ruthless people always rise from the ashes of these scumbag revolutions, leaving the weak, incompetent, temporarily “useful” idiots literally to twist in the wind. The message to all DC-rats: It is not better to rule in hell than to serve in Heaven. They won’t even get to rule in hell.
Count this as a “like”. We are asked to believe Islam is the religion of peace but if we say bad things about these peaceful folks, they’ll go bonkers and gun us down or blow us up.
We’re asked to believe they want to live by the US Constitution but every chance they get they advocate Sharia Law which is antithetical to the U S Constitution.
They don’t belong here just as we don’t belong there..
There is no Muslim threat!
Trying to explain MUSLIM dangers to a Liberal .. #tcot pic.twitter.com/677VaI4Kdf
— John Galt (@dhrxsol1234) December 18, 2015
Even I can understand this. Excellent!
MVW says:
13 months to go. Man, that looks like an eternity based on the last 4 weeks, 2 days, and 8 hours.
Obama is not the problem, the lying GOPee is the problem. If we didn’t have a Uniparty, he would truly be a lame duck. With his Uniparty fellows like Ryan and McConnell, he’s a T-Rex and the Constitution (and we the people) are sitting ducks. He’s angling to become Sec. General of the UN when the UN takes over the “New World Order”.
joanfoster says:
If we didn’t have a Uniparty, Obama would have already been impeached.
annieoakley says:
I’m sooooo ready!!!!!
I don’t know, man. I think the liberal would think the log was sorry and wouldn’t do it again.
sloth1963 says:
Yes. Or maybe they would tell you that the log was endageresd. You have to cut off your horns so that the log isn’t hurt when it eats you.
haahaha!
The lib would think the log is an oppressed minority.
And he’s under water because of global warming!
tappin52 says:
I just want to know why only American citizens are capable of “hateful rhetoric” and not the Imams in the mosques. Don’t their hateful sermons provably create more terrorists than angry citizens reacting to jihad?
My question is, who thought mixing two cultures that don’t mix well would be a good idea? Or worse still, did they know it would be a bad idea?
WSB says:
They do know and want it really badly. Ask Valerie Jarrett.
Yes, sort of like asking the piranha and the goldfish to exist in the same fish tank.
kittycat77 says:
Thing is, is there’s a ton of jealously and coveting involved. The Muslims are extremely jealous of the US and COVET what we have. It’s one of the roots of the problem.
Read “Among the Believers” by V.S. Naipul.
http://www.amazon.com/Among-Believers-Islamic-V-S-Naipaul/dp/0394711955/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1450460934&sr=1-1&keywords=among+the+believers
He makes the case that Islam is a death spiral. Muslim communities have problems, so the solution is to consult the Koran and adhere to it more strictly, which causes more problems. Rinse; repeat.
For comparison, read his book, “A Turn To the South”, where he accompanies a black man into the Deep South.
They know. They know. 😦
I think they knew it and did it in purpose so they can destroy everything that America stand for.
another perfunctory, mechanical, trite speech of soft-pedaling, subliminally pro-muslim rhetoric.
try as I might, I can not stand to listen to the whole thing.
it doesn’t help that he has to READ IT and is continually flipping the pages of his prepared script back & forth, while Biden fidgets in the background trying hard to keep a straight face.
goons,
criticalbill says:
Biden was fidgeting in the background because he didn’t have a female to put his hands on to ..keep them still?
The fact he hasn’t criticized students ( Yale etc) for wanting to get rid of free speech means he is behind it. By rotating whatever Obama say’s 180 degrees; the truth is revealed.
I wonder who is pulling Valerie Jarretts strings, we know she pulls Obama’s.
cair package
Sandhill says:
Mailed from Soros.
IntoTheFray says:
Follow the money! (Hint: George Soros.)
Seriously people, read up on this sick scumbag. The murky waters created by Alibama will become crystal clear.
Soros, Iran’s back channels and global corporatists who want access to Iran and Iraq. They think Iraq will essentially get merged with/taken over by Iran to create a Shiite super-state, at least by ME stds.
Soros, no doubt
Would I be considered crazy to start suspecting that he is sending signals to them with these speeches?
It seems every time he has one of these speeches, a major attack happens somewhere within days.
I certainly know that I am not the only one thinking things like this. Normal, sane, intelligent, everyday people I encounter throughout my workday have been intimating the same suggestion privately that O is a Muslim and may not be on our side.
Yes, not the only one.
It also makes excellent political sense. Even though he gets criticism for making the speech – saying something wrong or out of touch or otherwise subject to criticism – and then there is an attack – I think it would appear more negligent if he didn’t say anything. It’s odd, but in the same way that his stream of scandals protects itself, his stream of irrelevant bo-scat protects itself, too.
tomspoliticsblog says:
“irrelevant bo-scat” great term! A combination of two meanings of the noun scat – the meaningless, non-word, patter of a jazz musician and the excrement of animals. I’d like to add it’s meaning as a verb as in Barack Obama, get out quickly, go!
Language – music – number – it’s all beautiful.
cymbal fades in a dark club with chairs on the tables….
mketch says:
I am inclined to agree with you. Things have turned all the more strange. Shutting down the major school districts, sketching border facilities, bizarre presidential speeches, approaching holidays…
Bluto says:
Justice 099, please stop reading my thoughts. It’s creeping me out! 😉
“There is no threat. Remain Calm. All is well”
Michael Lebinowitz says:
When you are bombing “the enemy” for a year with little to show for it, it becomes glaringly apparent that “protecting the target” is priority #1 !!!
zippy the fuslim is all in for anything fuslim especially if it comes down to fuslims vs We the People.
To NOT see zippy the fuslim for what and who he really is, is wanton disregard for the obvious!
Have been thinking this for a long time. You are not alone!
At first I thought it was a case of “speak of the Devil and up he pops” but I’m beginning to think there is a connection, although maybe not what you think. Because every time he does this and then there is an attack, it’s like they are saying “in your face” and my impression is that they win, psychologically. It isn’t helping his credibility here, but if he is really a sociopath/NPD, he doesn’t care. They are stupid that way. Either way it isn’t good for us.
It seems far-fetched that he is sending signals, but I have to admit he did say ISIS was contained right before the Paris attacks and we’re in no danger right before San Bernadino. Maybe not so much sending signals as softening us up. On alert, we might not obey “gun free zones”, might not invite a Muslim to our Christmas party etc. etc. etc.
I guess I’m already on alert. Certainly nothing <0 says will do anything other than elevate my alert status.
Chewbarkah says:
I think it is more a matter of the Islamists wanting to humiliate Obama and demonstrate his weakness by unleashing preplanned attacks right after his empty assurances. They see Obama is a proxy of the USA, little knowing that most Americans view him as a buffoon and/or an enemy.
Mike from Portland says:
Yep, not the only one.
Paul Vincent Zecchino says:
You are right on the money, it’s as if his speeches are coded messages to terrorists to launch yet another attack.
RINOKiller says:
What a totally, effing waste of time!
The Furher WANTS terrorism here, not prevent it!
He created the terror problem and has no intention to truly fix it.
He is even ONE!
True. This is the only way Alibama makes any sense.
He says “radicalize” and “especially online.”
He’s going to come after us, not after them. Ending internet anonymity is on his agenda. Mark my words.
That’s OK – we just pound him mercilessly for it. Having weaponized the IRS against us, he gets NOTHING between now and when he leaves. NOTHING. Barack Hussein Obama is proof of everything the Founding Fathers warned us about and prepared us for.
At this stage, barring a military coup ( are only liberal Generals left?) how or who can stop the ONE doing anything he wants ( as if he isn’t already). What will be the proverbial straw that breaks his or our backs?
Why should we tell him? His arrogance will be his demise. Let him overstep. Obama is a Muslim terrorist. He tests. But we know he’s testing.
I think he already made the mistake that sinks him. Jarrett backed off their last scam for a reason. We just need to find it.
^^this! 🙂
“…Obama is a Muslim terrorist….”
I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels this way.
I agree with tyranno often, but possibly never more strongly than this statement.
By the way, I’ve been thinking of how different scenarios have been discussed which would allow these filthy Muslims to maintain residence in the white house after the 2016 elections. Either America at war offshore or a major domestic uprising. – both/scenarios completely, potentially, choreographed by the white house muzz.
But i wonder, why not both scenarios simultaneously?
The situation in Syria is just waiting on one wrong move to go nuclear (figuratively and possibly literally).
And Obama already has been probing soft targets within our borders, testing our responses.
I believe, in the months leading up to election 2016, we are going to be very, very busy defending ourselves.
That is the environment our muzz leaders are setting up now.
wyntre says:
Which scam is that? (There are so many I can’t keep track)
Unfortunately, another attack.
Scare story of yesterday on the Daily Beast, “Pentagon officers will resign if Trump elected.” Good, I say. Get out of the way. There is a lot of dross there.
Seriously I would be more likely to vote for Trump if they resign. Dont these people in DC get that we dont like any of them?
I hope they do resign then Trump won’t have to fire the do nothing riff raft that’s cluttering up our agencies. These are career government workers – not officers. The government agencies need streamlining anyway. It’s part of the fraud and waste Trump talks about.
They’ll resign to keep from being court martialed or fired. Same cowardice they’ve shown as they cravenly cave in to <0’s dictates to hobble our soldiers, abandon our diplomats, arm our enemies, lie to the citizenry, and allow internal traitors to stay in power. No loss.
ctdar says:
those remaining that have not resigned already might be indicative of who’s side they are really on or blackmail.
amjean says:
Tell that to Paul Ryan. LOL.
When I noticed that the left, the media, AND the GOP establishment all jumped on the ‘absurdity that they can’t screen social media’ I seen plainly through it. The intention is to create new laws and rules to look at US, not them.
Couple that with Lynch’s not-so-veiled threat to prosecute people using ‘hateful speech’ and it is clear what the intention is.
Whenever all those forces agree on something, it is never going to be good for the American people. I’m sure they wiould give the bill some pretty name, too. I mean who would vote against the PATRIOT act or FREEDOM act? Aren’t you a patriot or lover of freedom?
It will be the “No really, it tastes like Chicken” Act.
Excellent post Justice. Keep it up.
Totally. We need to be ready to lay down nuclear fallout on these b#stards if they even try to go after our free speech. Make the downfall of Cankles the salvation of America.
Heck. Let’s do that anyway.
They already did. Apparently, the previously strongly objected to Cybersecurity was buried in the Omnibus they are about to vote on. Everything they do is designed to motivate the Legislators to take away our freedoms.
“When I noticed that the left, the media, AND the GOP establishment all jumped on the ‘absurdity that they can’t screen social media”
Bet they’re “screening” the conservative treehouse.
Yeah, because we are REALLY SCARY!
Check this warning to America taped 26 years ago by KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov. It is chillingly prophetic.
This is a great description of psychological warfare. He doesn’t use the term “PC” but it is part of the indoctrination (demoralization) he speaks of. Note how he assumes a minimum of 15 years to shape a critical mass of sheeple, and how the breakdown of moral standards has contributed. Watch to the end for the whole process.
I really didn’t think internet anonymity existed. Does it?
I more suspect a shutdown of sites like this: anything not PC and not agreeing with the demon.
Absolutely. They know who we are. Every one of us. But once Obama crosses an invisible red line he can’t see, he crashes and burns into the ash heap of history. Let him cross it.
ZurichMike says:
He uses “folks” – such a soft, inappropriate word at time of mortal danger. I only scanned the transcript. I don’t need to infect my mind with his lies, obfuscations, and islamo-apologies. I don’t want to listen to him — I don’t need to see or hear this lying, anti-American, jihadist speak so disdainfully and disrepectfully to the American people. I look forward to the day that this man-boy ghetto puppet, his snarling, racist beard/wife and perpetual mother-in-law guest waddle out of the White House for the last time, slurping down the last of the lobster bisque, after they have used Air Force One like Uber, and the White House like a hotel room. I loathe him even more than I loathe Hillary, and she had previously set the bar as the most despicable human being every foisted upon the body politic.
rsmith1776 says:
When they finally leave…. is there enough Febreeze in the Universe?
Post of the week! Post of the week!
LOOOOOOOL!!!!
Sir Donald has a yuge supply
Agree 100%; and you put it so eloquently! Ha!
Hmmm…Soros? Obama. Soros? Obama.
Soros’ role in Muslim migration.
http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151218/1031981904/george-soros-exacerbating-refugee-crisis-europe-eu-syria.html
amwick says:
Don’t hold back Mr. ZM! I look forward to the day when a certain charlatan Reverend and divisive race baiter no longer has the same access to POTUS as the cabinet.
Could you have ever imagined an America where the discredited Tawana Brawley hoaxer, Freddie’s Fashion Mart murderer, Crown Heights assassin, would be a valued and respected member of the presidential inner circle?
Zurich, man you are rolling like a freight train and I am a hobo waiting for a ride. Great post. Loved the Air Force One Uber comment and the waddling mother in law. My only concern with this group is will we really get rid of them. I fear they are so drunk on power that they will set up a scenario whereby an election is postponed indefinitely or set up camp in DC to be a thorn in the flesh of the next administration – shadow government if you will. There is only one man capable of putting these criminals in their place and that’s Trump.
patternpuzzler says:
I’ve wondered about his use of “folks” too. It stands out and he uses it when I would expect someone to say “people.” It is interesting that there are two rival criminal gangs based in Seattle called “Folks” and “People.” Barry is from Chicago.
Another grating annoyance is when he– a grown man and president of the US– says “moms and dads.”
triper57 says:
I think his reference to ‘folks’ is in ‘his folks’. Not to folks in a national view. He does not think of the US as a homogeneous country. We are in separate boxes in his view.
Djk says:
He uses a lot of words that he probably heard his white grandfather say; eg. wee-weed up, ginned up, folks etc. He is not comfortable with speaking extemporaneously and thus his teleprompter. Plus his veneered teeth have given him a lingering “ssss” when he says words with an s in them. Drives me nuts.
west1890 says:
Obama uses “folks” the way McCain uses “friends”. It makes my blood boil.
I can’t stand the guy anymore. In a way is funny because everytime he is on TV my reaction is automatically start insulting and yelling at the screen.
Karmy says:
Well said, Mike! My feelings exactly. They are the stuff on the bottom of my shoe after walking through the dog park.
ediegrey says:
I always cringe when he says “folks” and he says it a lot. I also cringe when I hear any of these people refer to America as the “homeland”, it just sounds 1984 to me. Of course, he ends with the generic “happy holidays”. I cannot wait until we have President Trump and our country back again. Merry Christmas!
Like. I really hate the ‘homeland’ term too. Reminds me of Russia and the ‘Motherland’.
CrankyinAZ says:
Or Germany and the “Fatherland.” /shudders
The way he tagged it in at the end of speech on terrorism seem completely insincere. I read his “happy holidays” as sarcasm, the way a mob boss might say it after his goons finished trashing your restaurant when you held back on the protection money.
Your statement is very optimistic: when they leave. I worry he has no intentions of doing that. It will be wonderful when he does if he does
The more disturbing thing to me is the number of people around him in this government who completely agree with him.
With the surely unprecedented number of people he has fired throughout his administration, it shouldn’t be a surprise.
An d the number of Muslims he had hired who are working in high places!
He has been shown recently to be incoherent and stumbling without teleprompters. So the “people who agree with him” within the govmt might be the “people who keep him” and answer to the power that runs him.
(Prop him up, keep him drugged down or up, write speeches? I dunno).
But the same has been said about Hillary lately that she can’t speak without teleprompters and is dependent upon handler-huma…
Interesting. Sounds like Biden. The whole thing is strange.
They are rotting from the inside out……
Is there a hazing initiation rite upon getting into DC govmt? Like “they” take you and force drugs until you can’t do without, meanwhile taking all manner of nasty photos?
And the higher you go in govmt. the more “they” control your every bodily function with fancy Pharms until you are REALLY a puppet?
“They” being I dunno, but have a few suspicions.
BTW I read that Bilderburg group is meeting soon…
Far Fetched? Mebbe, mebbe not.
It would explain the complete change that seems to come over even the most promising “patriots” as soon as they arrive in sin city…and I don’t mean Vegas.
I hope Trump keeps his personal security around all the time after he gets to the WH, and continues to carry.
They take you to the basement where the pods are growing.
So, pods in the basement? Must be an old sci-if flick.
In a more modern era, were I to write a “pod in the basement” type script,
I rather would suggest pills, or even powders served in food or drink, not peas nor pods.
Perhaps injections, or IVs on occasion, although long sleeves are then a requirement, unless the veins of the inner thigh are used. Leg veins being used can cause leg vein damage leading to clots sometimes. Addicts are often quite adept at injections in strange places. Adhesive patches might suffice for some things.
Whatever, the point is there are at least two who once were considered “eloquent” but can no longer manage to speak coherently even a sentence or two, without assistance. All else is speculation.
How about mind control? Personally I think Ryan has converted to Islam hence the new beard and the pro-refugee sections of the new bill.
Yes, agree, the beard is a signal. Spot on.
I’veo ften thought that when new people come to D.C. they take them into a dark room, stick a vacuum hose into their ear and suck out the honesty and integrity and then set them loose on us
The ritual is called being a Democratic Party activist. They hire each other, no matter which party holds the White House.
LawrencePaul says:
Wow just looking at those three fine specimens is enough to inspire confidence that all is well. What men, what leaders. Men of integrity competence. We are so lucky to have them.
Sorry but I didn’t read what he said but I can pretty much guess what the great teleprompter orator said . “BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH” “Same as it ever was”
yohio says:
So if Trump gets nomination, and he needs to say something outrageous when it gets closer to November. Does he promise to investigate everything Obama & Hillary have ever done or does it polarize to many dems against him? I think it helps if things continue on this way, it may draw some repubs who hate Trump but hate Obama or Hillary more to vote for him
As soon as he’s locked up the nomination, Trump should start saying he’s not going to investigate anything about Obama. Say he’s about the future, not the past. It’s the best general election strategy and it might – just might – lull the deep state into complacency so they forget to fully cover their tracks. Once he’s in office, he should clean house – especially at the CIA – try to find some people he can trust, and then investigate everything.
Yes, yes. Don’t scare the horses.
“And on a regular basis, I convene members of my national security team…” –BH Obama
Yeah, say once a year or so. This guy is notorious for blowing off his “Presidential Daily Briefing” and not meeting with his own cabinet. WHY would we wish to believe that he’s meeting with his national security team? –Does Obama even know who’s on his national security team?
This president has been far more engaged in selecting his “final four bracket” than he ever was with “national security”.
R-C are you making the mistake of believing that HIS national security team is our national security team?
archer52 says:
I texted my police friends after hearing Obama once again assure us that we were safe.
“We screwed! Obama said everything okay for holiday season.
Said ISIS contained- then Paris.
We’re safe in America- then San Berdandino.
Now this?! The guy is like a sh*t magnet!
Arm up!
I’m wearing my helmet to work for the rest of the month!
winky says:
O is a twisted individual
Star Wars Movie Theater Threat… and now this:
Middle Eastern men asking suspicious questions about dam in Missouri. FBI alerted. https://t.co/bLIA6YPIIv #tcot pic.twitter.com/2JyZsrsDb6
— Rhodes News (@RhodesNews) December 18, 2015
Wonder how many such incidents went unreported before Trump opened the door and said its ok not to be politically correct?
Just go about your business and keep your eyes open…so you can see the floodwaters as they come roaring down.
Muslims have been caught on premises of utilities all over the US late at night – they use the excuse that they are just students studying the technology. Then why did they not make an official appointment for a tour?
The MSM participates (including Fox). We have to find information on our own which thankfully is available due to the Internet. Remember the stabber in CA who stabbed some folks. Turns out it wasn’t collegeplace violence but rather a radicalized Muslim.
Stinky-Inky says:
Maybe they really, really like catfish. Everyone in the big MO knows there are catfish the size of Buicks in Bagnell Dam.
Also, what is it about rural Missouri, for crying out loud? If all these reports (bulk cell phone purchases, propane tanks stolen, foreign men walking through deer stands) lead to crazy aloha snackbar types, do they understand who they are messing with in rural Missouri? May I suggest they rent the following movies: “The Outlaw Josie Wales,” “Ride with the Devil” and “Winter’s Bone.”
The muz bought the liberal lie that rural people are both weak and stupid. That might be a good thing, like being undercover in plain sight.
Found this on Shoebat…a little info and film on Islam…pretty sick
http://www.blindfoldnation.com/index.php/2015/12/08/the-truth-about-islam-convert-or-conquer/
Shiny Colt 45 (@shinycolt45) says:
Did you see the one with the 3 year old muslim girl there on page 2? http://www.blindfoldnation.com/index.php/2015/12/12/3-year-old-muslim-hates-jewish-people/ how sick is that?
If Donald Trump hasn’t noticed this tweet, he should! Newt Gingrich tweeted “California terrorist attack” 13 Nov.
The SanBernadino attack had not happened yet!
The post is still on his Twitter account right now.
See it below:
Newt Gingrich (@newtgingrich) tweeted at 6:18pm – 13 Nov 15:
Maybe scale of the Paris attack following Russian airline bombing and California terrorist attack will convince our leaders this is real war (https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/665307848755314688?s=17)
When people questioned “What California attack?” the CYA was “the attack on the grid.”
But no shooter of the grid has been found, so who/what group or nation does Newt want to make war on due to the shooting of the power grid? Or, otherwise, how does Newt know that the unknown automatic weapons grid-sharpshooters were ISIS?
http://www.emergencymgmt.com/safety/Attack-Electric-Grid-Raises-Alarm-EM.html
But it is not known that the UNKNOWN “automatic weapons sharpshooters”were
of any nation nor group upon which we could make war, which was the subject of Newt’s post.
And I didn’t realize that there were “sharpshooters” of automatic weapons?
UC Merced attack on Nov. 4??
Someone responded mentioning the “power grid”. http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/16/technology/sniper-power-grid/ But it happened in 2013, I guess DHS finally decided that it was workplace violence in 2015.
Never mind the last sentence,mom course there are, so ignore the last.
I have a bad feeling about the Star Wars premiere: too many kids, too many possible methods, too many crowded theaters, and too close to Christmas.
^^of course, not mom course^^ My finger is magnetically attracted to “m” spellcheck does the rest…
Computers are designed to be evil, KBR! 😉
Spellcheck is the debil!
El Torito says:
I refuse to watch it. I have had enough of his indifference to loss of American lives. Bring on Trump.
Centinel2012 says:
Reblogged this on Centinel2012 and commented:
Under the Islamic principle of Taqiyya Muslims are allowed to say and do anything to advance the Islamic principle of world domination and the elimination of ALL that do not bow to Allah. Obama single handily has destroyed western civilization by the policies he has forced on us and Europe. There is no hope for Europe but if we can keep our guns though 2016 and elect Trump there is a small chance for redemption. But it would take a purge of our government to take out all the tentacles of Islam and Marxism that are now part of out National, State and local governments!
If San Bernardino is a one-off, carried out by independent crazies, why do they have a thumb drive with a spreadsheet showing purchases specific to this crime? Are they just really OCD about bookkeeping, or are they reporting to a higher up and getting reimbursed? If it’s the latter, who else is that higher up managing?
NCPatrick says:
The last thing San Bernardino is is a one-off IMO. After all, someone has been paying the $200/mo wife rental fee as well as the other deposits in their accounts? Surely the banks involved could trace those back? Much more to come I’m sure.
Yep. Follow the money.
This has the feel for an experiment, a test, a way of making improvements and to work out the kinks. If it had worked as planned with the bombs it would have been much worse.
Don’t count on the next one for the bombs to fail to detonate. And bombs increase responder uncertainty so that the muslims can do other things, ya know mix it up.
We talk about cold anger here, this is cold hatred.
Cold anger can turn into hot anger. It did after 9-11 when even the San Francisco Lefties were (temporarily) angry. When GWB retaliated against Afghanistan, even the left wingers kept silent because the American people were mad and would have turned on them with viciousness if they’d said to just let it go and try to understand why they hate us. I remember that time when wherever you went, a movie theatre, a play, “America the Beautiful” was played. We were united. But gradually the lefties began to turn the tide. GWB gave them the hand grenades when he attacked Iraq, and from then on, “America the Beautiful” stopped being played, the lefty newspapers like the NY Times and Wash Post were up and running, tearing at Bush and America. I’ve never seen such invective directed at a president and/or a country from within as I saw directed at GWB and that resulted in Obama. It was obvious anyone running as a Dem would win and it is curious how it was as someone said above that a questionable nobody without any credentials won against a woman who was first lady to the most popular president since Reagan, had served as a US Senator (and did a fairly good job from what I understand). I’m no Hillary fan; I think she’s corrupt and venal; but I do not believe she is responsible for Benghazi. I believe she was ordered to stand down. If I’m right, her character flaw is that she didn’t disobey her orders and resign or get fired. She wanted to be president more than she cared about those men’s lives. I don’t approve or condone, but I see why she did it. Like Bosheviks, Democrats put PARTY above all others, including and especially others’ lives.
Pg 25: “Preliminary FBI laboratory results have found fingerprints on the rifles and IED components, but not positive matches to Marquez.”
Question: fingerprints other than dead perps?
My take is that they are being very narrow-focused in that criminal complaint document. They are not revealing anything more than necessary to secure a conviction of Marquez.
Exactly. But reading between lines, as Sundance suggested in the post, reveals information contrary to O’s safety dance speech.
I noted that they only mention two shooters despite the early reports of three shooters.
It’s not often you see someone fall asleep during the speech they are giving.
6:22 We continue to do everything in our power to prevent terrorists from getting into the United States
No we don’t! I don’t know how we’re going to endure another year of this imbecile.
He presents this like it’s impossible, even with our best efforts, to prevent terrorists from entering.
NOT TRUE !!!
Marquez said there are more groups than anyone can imagine. Marquez is an idiot so this had to have come from his dear Farook. Marquez wasn’t a hate filled cold blooded muslim, reminded me of Igor in Dr. Frankenstein.
In contrast, I have met a room full of young muslim students and their hate for an infidel such as myself would have boiled water then and there. I have never felt anything like it, ever.
We haven’t seen anything yet… anything.
A couple of points more. I had a close friend who was muslim, and I can say he was a different person than these ‘students’, so in that regard, something major has changed, major. Donald Trump has in clear eyed simple terms stated the key issue which is we need to understand this hatred, especially the scope. He hasn’t said what we do after that, but obviously nothing can be said until it is understood.
But let me say a couple of words about the hate. Farook killed over a dozen of doe eyed Americans that befriended him… in cold, calculated, blood, people he worked with for years. Then planted bombs to kill the responders and more of those he left behind. So, few normal Americans can really understand this hatred. It is outside of our normal experience.
I have heard it said that killing someone with a knife is personal, but what is it that Farook did? Islamic?
Malatrope says:
Islam is Hate.
You need know nothing more.
Director says:
Dude. They are obviously going to conduct a massacre in a college of school in LA.
It’ll be Beslan. Another one of the Chechen bitches showed up too. There are only 200 in the US and 7 of them are confirmed terrorists.
How is a Philipino married to a Chechen? And not under surveillance?
bitterlyclinging says:
James Clapper looks like sweetheart in the photo. The president, along with his his two National Security heads, all three enamored with Islam. What could possibly go wrong?
BobNoxious says:
Just saw this over at mediaite; Obama had one of his “private meetings” w/ journos yesterday and said this (before the NY Times stealth edited out of the article).
In his meeting with the columnists, **Mr. Obama indicated that he did not see enough cable television to fully appreciate the anxiety after the attacks in Paris and San Bernardino…
http://www.mediaite.com/online/ny-times-stealth-edits-article-to-remove-embarrassing-obama-admission/
So, Obama basically heard about the attacks & America’s anxiety on the news… WOW!!! If that doesn’t prove this guy is in a bubble, what does???
I would bet that Alibama did watch, cheering on his Muslim brother all the way. Alibama lies, and his lapdog MSM provides cover. He is NOT in a bubble, hes is evil!
tinkerthinker2 says:
Also shows he has no common sense…at first, then you realize he does know everything we do…and just trying to gruber us all..
Obama looked arrogant and detached, like he could care less about the whole thing, but was annoyed that he had to explain his brilliance to the rubes. The same old PC nonsense – “we can’t give in to fear, that’s not who we are” SHUT UP. WHO ARE YOU TO DEFINE AMERICA’ VALUES. “Happy Holidays” the POS says at the end, not “Merry Christmas.” He couldn’t miss that little dig
His body language told me he was lying through the whole thing. What a repulsive little man.
While Obama was attempting to mask, or else is psychopathic enough not to need to try, Biden was rapid blinking, shifting, scratching his head(“well I don’t know about that” touching his left eye, touching his nose (at key points, a “something stinks” tell) glancing left. The guy to Obama’s right was also dancing.
Guess they knew the lies and weren’t expecting anybody would watch their body language. It is quite interesting if you can move the speed along to watch them dance.
IMO says:
0bama day dreaming about watching 🌈 Hawaiian sunsets and 🌭 roasting weiners with Reggie Love.
For the country it’s “a time for choosing” between “them or us”. I don’t think that anything can be more clear than that Obama is the “Manchiran Candidate” created by Muslim puppeteers to create the Caliphate in America. Years and years of planning got him into the Presidency in 2008. How does a nobody from Chicago, a first term senator become the Democrat presidential candidate winning it from the well known Hillary Clinton? All his records sealed as to who he really is. Since his election and reelection, He has actively promoted the spread of Islamic socialism, and now the congress and Supreme Court are infected with that terminal cancer. The new proposed omnibus budget deal is the culmination of his program to destroy the US. If this passes Obama will open “the gates of Hell” and in the next 400 days fundamentally change America for ever. We are out of time to stop this Muslim megalomaniac and his policy of destruction. What is needed now is a call to action. The Second Amendment isn’t about hunting. It’s all about the last resort in dealing with traitors and to secure the other inalinable rights that the founders declared in the Declaration of Independance. If not us than who? Do we have the courage to end this and call it for what is – treachery, Do we have the courage to get out from behind our keyboards and rally our friends and family to prepare for the inevinable? We need to prepare and be ready as the time for choosing draws near and Patriots will be called upon to stand firm and defend the Constitution. With Donald Trump as our commander in chief, I pray that we can take back our country and “Make America Great Again”.
You might find the video of the KGB agent who defected to the west warning America – and this was 26 years ago – interesting.
It’s posted upthread, a response to Justice 999
Taqiyya from the empty chair. Farook was radicalized and plotting terrorist attacks since 2011. Obozo & crew terminated investigation of his radical mosque.
H Hutto says:
0bama lies so bad, he has to get someone else to call his own dog.
Ono says:
Politically correct?
When was the last time a politician did the correct thing. The only thing they are good at is making up excuses for their bad behavior.
PC…Pure crap
Michael Story says:
So, everytime this clown opens his mouth it seems something bad happens……when is the next terror attack scheduled?
letjusticeprevail2014 says:
You will need to check with Valeria Jarrett for that information. I believe she has a direct source…
Christmas Day. Star Wars theaters all over the country, as many infrastructure targets they have operatives for, and at least one new thing we didn’t see coming.
TwoLaine says:
Hagel: The White House Tried to ‘Destroy’ Me
In an exclusive interview, Chuck Hagel said the Obama administration micromanaged the Pentagon, stabbed him in the back on the way out — and still has no strategy for fixing Syria.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/12/18/hagel-the-white-house-tried-to-destroy-me/
This interview of Hagel started to generate some sympathy for him, from me. UNTIL I reached the end where he praised Obama and cited the Iran Nuke Treaty as a “…landmark agreement with Iran to curtail its nuclear program….”.
Once I saw THAT, I was like: “Shove it, Chuck.”
I Hear Ya’!
Well, that and Guantanamo.
Scirparius says:
The past two times Obama has give the “everything is fine; you’re totally safe” message, there have been major terrorist attacks shortly afterward.
If there is an attack at a movie theater or a dam in the next few days, I will officially begin making myself a big tinfoil hat.
Put up the girly bike and golf pictures, that will make us feel more assured. 🙂
Ivehadit says:
In 2016, Incompetence is code for traitor/treason. We all know what’s going on…but as mentioned before, “don’t disturb the horses”…until November, 2016!
I do find it so very interesting how the media will attack say, a Baptist faction like the hideous Westboro group and expect the Baptists to handle that (and condemn for not handling) and yet, will go out of their way to protect a certain religion that has done NOTHING to stop the killing within such religion. And blame/shame those who expect that certain religion to handle THEIR problem. (You know who I mean)
zephyrbreeze says:
San Bernadino was the 75th attack on America due to Islamic terrorism.
“Prior to the events in San Bernardino, there have been 74 Islamist-inspired terror attacks and plots in the U.S. since 9/11. This is the 64th terrorist attack or plot that has been perpetrated by self-radicalized U.S. citizens. ”
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2015/12/the-75th-terrorist-plot-on-the-united-states
I’ve vetted that list before. It’s close but short by a number of attacks. It is closer now to a hundred.
Still, this is a war between ideas- a civilization moving forward, and one that is stuck in the 7th century with murderous intent.
The outcome will decide the future of the world.
Maybe this explains Ryan’s new beard…
“passing this legislation, the House has approved funding for the issuance of nearly three hundred thousand visas to migrants from Muslim countries in the next year alone.
“Ryan’s bill accomplishes this migrant surge by fully funding every U.S. immigration program currently in existence, as well as funding the President’s expansion of the refugee program through Syrian migrant resettlement.”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/18/congress-votes-fund-nearly-300000-visas-muslim-migrants-one-year/
Rubio misses spending bill vote | TheHill
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/263719-rubio-misses-spending-bill-vote#
Rubio a no show again. Florida get rid of this punk.
froggielegs says:
“Old Dixie Highway in Riviera Beach was re-named President Barack Obama Highway on Thursday.”
http://www.wptv.com/news/region-c-palm-beach-county/riviera-beach/ceremony-thursday-in-riviera-beach-will-rename-old-dixie-highway-to-barack-obama-way
Is this going to be like most/all of the MLK Drives throughout the country? Always running through the worst neighborhoods, which is a shame because MLK didn’t represent welfare dependence and crime.
I did a Google Street View drive. The section being renamed is limited to Riviera Beach. It’s not the worst neighborhood I’ve ever seen but the drive-through liquor store is a nice touch.
http://dcwhispers.com/obama-snarls-against-fbis-immigration-suggestion-you-sound-like-trump/
Obama to Director Comey, “You sound like Trump!”
At a meeting prior to this speech, Comey is said to have suggested a temporary pause in immigration from countries with strong terrorist ties. Obama didn’t like it.
The president, who until then is said to have appeared both bored and irritated at having to attend the meeting that was primarily part of a Jarrett-initiated public relations campaign intended to show Mr. Obama remains “strong on terror” preceding what will be an Executive Order gun control measure due to be unleashed by the White House very soon, did a “double-take” following the suggested immigration pause in the face of what is a very real and ongoing terror threat.
Mr. Obama apparently sat at the head of the table clearly unhappy for the remainder of the meeting over the immigration policy suggestion and then made certain that Director Comey stood farthest from him (so far in fact Comey was not even shown by the news cameras) as Mr. Obama addressed the nation – no small feat given Director Comey stands six-foot-eight and thus towers over Barack Obama.
It must be so hard for Val-Jar – trying to ruin America through a petulant child. {sarc}
I shouldn’t be surprised but I’m wondering how a person could be more concerned with his appearance than the safety and security of the country. Does this not qualify him as a traitor?
240grjhp says:
If you refine heroin for a living, but you have a moral objection to
liquor – You may be a Muslim.
If you own a $3,000 machine gun and a $5,000 rocket launcher, but you
can’t afford shoes – You may be a Muslim.
If you have more wives than teeth – You may be a Muslim.
If you wipe your butt with your bare hand but consider bacon to be
unclean – You may be a Muslim.
If you think vests come in two styles: Bullet-proof and suicide – You
may be a Muslim.
If you can’t think of anyone you haven’t declared jihad against – You
If you consider television dangerous but routinely carry explosives
in your clothing – You may be a Muslim.
If you were amazed to discover that cell phones have uses other than
setting off roadside bombs – You may be a Muslim.
If you have nothing against women and think every man should own at
least four – You may be a Muslim.
If you find this offensive you are part of the problem in America!
If you delete this you are, most likely a Muslim or cater to them.
Dick Morris has a debate poll with Cruz and Trump tied. Lets see if we can tip it!
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/LZZS2WR
A. He is lying. Said San Bernardino jehadi’s were: Self-initiating. Self-mitivated. (Nothing more to see here, move along). I haven’t heard LE make such a claim.
B. He watched the Rep. Debate
He now has a bright idea to partner with high tech leaders.
C. He is hiding behind Nat. Counterterrorism center
Yes, there are hard working & sacrificing people trying to keep us safe & he is probably blocking them at every turn.
D. Folks folks he says over & over, i am sick of the use of that word!
Thanks for the transcript, i can’t stand to look at him any more, much less listen to him lie to us.
At what point does someone go from self-initiating to whatever the other choice is, initiated by others? We know Syed and Tashfeen were supporters of ISIS and got instructions for bomb-building from an ISIS magazine, and we know ISIS openly encourages individuals to wreak havoc. If ISIS or other Islamic terror organizations didn’t exist, would Syed and Tashfeen have committed this act? I think not.
Why was the investigation of the mosque they attended ended by BO?
Who were all the Middle Eastern men coming over to their house that the neighbor
was too fearful to report till after the massacre?
angryduc says:
barry the filthy pandering muslim dog lying to the United States again. Counter terrorism has never thwarted a single terror “event” they didn’t instigate.
couldn’t even say Merry Christmas
warmac9999 says:
If there is any doubt that Obama is a muslim, this should eliminate that doubt:
President Obama signed an executive order Monday barring federal contractors from discriminating against the Muslim community by erecting “offensive religious displays” on Federal Property including nativity manger scenes.
White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest announced announced the order in conjunction with a package of gun control measures designed to curtail the recent trend of holiday violence.
“There are things we can do”,Earnest told Fox News,”The President is determined to keep everyone safe during the Holiday season and the removal of imagery that some consider offensive or hate speech is a good first step.”
The Obamas have reportedly decided against any religious themed holiday displays at the White House since the First Lady thinks they are creepy.
Juggalos For Allah,a Muslim activist group,applauded the decision saying this would go far to diffuse anger towards Christians usually felt by Muslims as we near the Christmas Holiday said Moe Lester,group spokesman.
“Yeah,this is good.”,Lester said,”It’s just not fair Christians have all these holidays and we don’t.
Presidential Candidate Mike Huckabee didn’t miss the opportunity to comment.
“It should come as no big surprise that President Obama and his wife would like to neuter Christmas in America,” said Huckabee. “That’s their natural step to Sharia Law — to ban the public display of Christian symbols. Have any doubts?
sDee says:
Funny and so true. Carlson at FOX had four former military men on his show. One of them who has contacts within the Pentagon. He stated it was almost “Stalin-like” inside the building. Not only couldn’t you talk out loud, you couldn’t even have water cooler conversations without worrying if an Obama plant wasn’t going to report you.
Forget offering any alternative to his “plans” about national security. He won’t listen.
I hope we have all learned the lesson about voting in a liberal, narcissist,progressive,racist PC using person in office.
strat4evr says:
Anyone who argues that Sharia,Islam practiced by any Muslim who enters the United States with the intent to establish residence here has the rights of protection of “Freedom of Religion” is proclaiming that Sharia, Islam can coexist without opposition to our constitution. The teachings of Shariah Law under Islam completely opposes Christianity as well as our constitution so if the argument is that a majority of Muslims practice a form of Islam that allows for the legitimate peaceful disagreement and denial of Islam it seems to be an argument unsupported by the proliferation of Terrorism worldwide in support of Islam, the inability to all too often recognize and identify “Radical Islamist” from “Non Radical Islamist”, the silence/unwillingness of Muslims who claim to be coexisting peacefully to dramatically assist law enforcement in identifying acts of radicalism with-in their own communities, and the growing number of Muslims in this country who are claiming to be offended by practices in this country that just because they perceive them as practices which conflict with their own beliefs it certainly gives the appearance of expectations of more than just acceptance. Just as our Grandparents, our Parents and many of us alive here today fought for the preservation of America and the assurances for next generations they will enjoy the same freedoms and liberties against Dictatorships, Fascists, Communism and any other ideology that oppose the Laws and the Constitution of America including those who hide behind a proclamation of a “Religion of Peace” yet support annihilation of all who oppose their beliefs.
truthwitness says:
Firstly: ╭∩╮(︶︿︶)╭∩╮to another depressing Obama speech
Now I will move on and enjoy the Reason for the Season and celebrate the birth of Christ and hope for all of us.
I see what you did there. 🙂
Let me share a funny story from my intel days. We were designing our unit by visiting other units in the state that were established- picking the best ideas, leaving the rest.
We had an opportunity to be part of a statewide conference involving all the agencies. Now this was years ago. In the meeting, fifty or sixty men and women- all senior police detectives- where milling about and talking. The time came for the meeting to start. The guy in charge was yelling at everybody to settle down and like most cops,we weren’t listening.
So, the the guy yells really out loud, “Everybody quiet down and let’s get started!” The place goes quiet, the people sit down.
Suddenly, I hear this lone voice at the back of the room,
“Silence!!”
Immediately, there was a responding chorus from dozens of professional men and women “I’ll KILL YOU!”
Then the whole place broke out into cheers and laughter and the guy in charge just threw up his hands.
Now, I turn to my partners with a confused look. One was laughing, the other was just shaking his head. I had no idea what happened.
Turns out, I had missed the Jeff Dunham act “Achmed the dead terrorist” thing. It appeared that EVERY intel detective had not. Suddenly, saved videos came up on laptops, people were laughing and I was exposed to this;
What a hilarious moment. Serious men and women being tickled by such a silly thing. We are just humans after all.
Then it was back to work and after that day, I wish the only terrorist I knew about was the bony one.
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Update: Disturbing Video – Police Officer Shoots Driver In Falcon Heights Minnesota – Passenger Records Aftermath…
Posted on July 7, 2016 by sundance
Against the earlier shooting in Baton Rouge Louisiana, unfortunately this police shooting will lead the news cycles – guaranteed.
This latest shooting happened only a few hours ago. Police said the incident began with a traffic stop around 9 p.m (link).
Sketchy Details / No media yet – As best we can determine, a woman named Lavish Reynolds (aka Diamond Reynolds) immediately began live-streaming video of the aftermath from a police officer shooting her boyfriend four times. A four year old girl was in the back seat.
Local Media Report – MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — WCCO confirms that a 32-year-old man has died after an officer-involved shooting Wednesday night in Falcon Heights.
Philando Castile’s mother, Valerie Castile, says he died at Hennepin County Medical Center. St. Anthony Police confirmed the shooting, which happened in the area of Larpenteur Avenue and Fry Street. Castile’s girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds, and her daughter were in the car at the time. Reynolds is in custody Wednesday night.
A video circulating on Facebook, which was pulled from the site before midnight, was filmed by Reynolds and appears to show the aftermath of the shooting.
Reynolds, who was in the front passenger seat, says in the video that she was pulled over for a broken tail light. She says police asked Castile, who was driving, for his license and registration.
She says as Castile was reaching for his wallet, he informed officers that he had a firearm in his possession, and a conceal-and-carry permit. Reynolds says in the video that an officer then shot her boyfriend four times. (read more)
According to the video (auto-streamed to Facebook here) and the narration, Philando Castile was driving, Ms Reynolds was the passenger as they were pulled over by the police. Her boyfriend informed the police officer he was licensed to carry a firearm, and when he reached for his wallet to get his ID the officer fired into the vehicle four times.
Here’s the video, but be warned this is very graphic, unsettling, and emotionally disturbing to watch and hear the driver explain what’s going on:
Reynolds: Stay with me. We got pulled over for a busted tail light in the back and he’s covered … they killed my boyfriend. He’s licensed to carry. He was trying to get out his ID and his wallet out his pocket and he let the officer know that he had a firearm and he was reaching for his wallet and the officer just shot him in his arm.
Officer: Ma’am, keep your hands where they are.
Reynolds: I am sir, no worries.
Officer: [Yells expletive.]
Reynolds: He just got his arm shot off. We got pulled over on Larpenteur.
Officer: I told him not to reach for it! I told him to get his head up!
Reynolds: He had, you told him to get his ID sir, his driver’s license. Please don’t tell me he’s dead.
Officer: [Expletive.]
Reynolds: Please don’t tell me my boyfriend just went like that.
Officer: Keep your hands where they are.
Reynolds: Yes I will, sir. I will keep my hands where they are. Please don’t tell me that he’s gone. Please don’t tell me that he’s gone. Please officer, don’t tell me that you just did this to him. You shot four bullets into him, sir. He was just getting his license and registration, sir.
Other Officer: Get the female passenger out of the car.
Reynolds: Where’s my daughter you have my daughter?”
[Five Minutes Later]
Reynolds: I got … the Roseville Police got me handcuffed, my phone is about to die. I’m on Larpenteur and Fry and the Roseville Police Department just shot my boyfriend. They shot him four times. He has a license to carry. We had a busted tail light. And we had some weed in the car that’s about it. (Transcript Via CBS Minnesota)
Video shows crowd gathered at scene of police-involved shooting in Falcon Heights, Minnesota https://t.co/3nKxy1WLtihttps://t.co/ZaQSg8C0lv
— ABC News (@ABC) July 7, 2016
Here’s the facebook link:
In anticipation of this video disappearing there’s also a duplicate copy available below.
Crowd growing at #FalconHeightsShooting Police say one man shot, woman & child also in car. Man's condition unknown pic.twitter.com/v40ze85Sgf
— Katherine Johnson (@KJohnsonKSTP) July 7, 2016
Crowd screaming "say his name: Phil" at #FalconHeightsShooting now chanting "No Justice, No Peace"
Man said he had gun "Ofc told him not to move & AS HE PUT HIS HANDS BACK UP" he was shot#falconheightsshooting pic.twitter.com/5xf8oI1bM3
— Just the Facts (@Truth007Seeker) July 7, 2016
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1,248 Responses to Update: Disturbing Video – Police Officer Shoots Driver In Falcon Heights Minnesota – Passenger Records Aftermath…
archstanton14 says:
who is the guy in the video?
The deceased, Philando Castile.
Disgusting people.
Well…that link paints quite the picture. What an effing pig. That little girl doesn’t stand a chance.
To be clear, I’m not referring just to that direct link to the video. If you follow the hyperlink to her FB you will get quite an eye full. So careful.
James F says:
That poor little girl looks miserable getting “hot boxed” full of marijuana smoke with that crappy music blaring.
Was the video flipped round again? Was he driving under marijuana? Does anyone know what brand and make the car is?
marinetelecom says:
Looks like Ford Taurus or similar car.
She might grow up to be president someday. Obozo got his start with roof hits.
Why did he have a gun on his lap? Who holds a gun in plain sight while the police are making a stop? This woman is inciting trouble before the facts are known. Why isn’t she consoling her daughter? I know it’s not scripted but she sure knew what to say from the start to point the finger at the officer which feeds into today’s anxiety over the shootings of black men. More facts are coming out about the “victim” that contradict miss Reynolds assertion that “he was just getting his id out”. What is an officer supposed to think when he pulls over someone that fits the description of a burglary suspect and sees a gun on the lap of the driver? Any move the driver makes is suspect.
Char Char Binks says:
She was coldly framing the cop for murder as her “boyfriend” bled out. And she was the subject for the camera– not the crime scene, not the police,not her daughter, and definitely not Philando.
Abster says:
Mumma is disgusting. That poor child. Who is that man? The victim? They were heading out for 4th. Woman didn’t even wear pants. Thinks she’s Wonder Woman.
Poor, poor child. That video on its own shows that the guy was not a good person. Neither of them should be anywhere near a child.
http://blavity.com/philando-castiles-girlfriend-diamond-reynolds-recounts-shooting-governors-mansion/ Same tattoos as in the video you linked to above.
Someone capture that video before it gets scrubbed!
seabrznsun says:
When the video shoots to the floorboard I see some keys and what looks like it could be the butt of a gun on th floor. One more thing, beside the obvious in the video of the pitiful little child in this situation, I’ve been wondering if phil had finally gotten his drivers license back and obtained proof of insurance, which lavish says he was reaching for (and not the gun) when the officer shot him?
She has a young daughter, but she seems to always have the camera on HERSELF.
MN Gov on #PhilandoCastile: "Would this have happened if those passengers…were white? I don't think it would have" https://t.co/zzziKNjKxS
If the officer is put on trial itmust now be moved out of the state. Dayton’s statement is extremely prejudicial.
maggiemoowho says:
BLM is involved, if the officer is put on trial it would be a tragedy and done only for political reasons to appease the BLM terrorists.
He and his democrap buddies are the real problem in the Black community. What a piece of dung he is. Cops and others die because of irresponsible jerks like him and Obama.
libertarianmama74 says:
Wasn’t the cop Asian? 2. ANY responsible CPL/CCW holder knows that when you are pulled over, for ANYTHING, you immediately disclose you are a CPL/CCW holder and disclose the location of your firearm if it is on you. You give the police the option to take the firearm completely out of the equation of the stop. Reported in only a few stories, the guy was reaching for his wallet and the firearm became visible. Police don’t take chances with their lives, nor should they.
RescueGal says:
You are absolutely correct!
Justsayin says:
When I got my CCP my instructor told us NOT to tell LEO’s you’ve got a gun in the vehicle because it would cause unnecessary stress. Told us that LEO’s know if you’re a CCP or not when they radio in and run the plates.
Unrationed Rationale says:
That depends, really. Some states require you to notify the officer immediately and some do not. In states that do not, the best course of action is as Justsayin stated: Don’t even mention it. If your weapon is concealed and the officer can not see it then he will never even know. Letting him know might cause him to become unnecessarily alarmed.
Whatever you do, DO NOT use the word “gun.” 🙂 Say weapon/firearm. Don’t say, “I have a gun!”
I’m willing to bet he had no permit, but that that was something they devised to throw police off. We will likely see a lot more of it in the future.
What video did the befuddled governor watch?
The only hint of racism in the video was when Lavish Diamond assumed the Asian officer was “Chineese”.
Reynolds began profiling the officer. “It was a Chinese police officer that shot him. He’s Chinese, he’s about five-five, five-six and a half, heavy set guy.
And now the racis media and politicians are assuming the Asian officer is white.
Are you kidding me? The officer is Asian? But they’re referring to him as “white”. This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
KenH says:
He’s a white Asian which is new specious of man just discovered by the liberals.
White Hispanic was their first find. Liberals should go to the Congo, they might find the missing link…..Where the great ape walked upright and evolved into a liberal.
Hispanic isn’t a race or an ethnicity. For years I’ve had to check boxes that say ‘white, nonhispanic”. Hispanics can be of any of the 3 races.
When a black officer shoots a black criminal, will the officer be described as a white Black?
It’s INSANE for the MN Gov to say something like that. He needs to be ejected ASAP.
MN Gov has some mighty strange eyes. What’s up with his eyes?
My first thought, too. It seems he’s either on some medication (legal or otherwise) or there is a neurological disorder or incident afoot.
The man has blood on his hands.
cohibadad says:
We continue to live in the age of Rodney King, where video of the end of a police incident, without all of the circumstances explained and with all of the misinformation and “racist” allegations being shouted from the media leading the discussion.
MN Gov. Mark Dayton: "My sense of outrage for what occurred is very real" https://t.co/xxvSc6Rncu #PhilandoCastile https://t.co/LwaRmTVo6Y
— CNN (@CNN) July 7, 2016
He needs to resign now, he is endangering lives. Watch, he’s going to let his city burn, you can see it coming.
Looks absolutely stoned.
porkchopsandwiches says:
no kidding, he sounds like he just got shot up with novocaine.
what is with his googly rolly eyes???
Alleges “recovering” alcoholic. He’s a rich kid from the Dayton-Hudson department store family.
Kid? That’s and old guy.
unfortunately I think you are right on the money. Riots are going to be pushed and the governor is going to order a stand down just like prior democRAT governors have done in the other BLM cases.
Does he have any facts upon which to base his opinion? Or is he just nuts?
beni franlkin says:
He’s just drunk…
While facts may come out to prove otherwise, it appears that this officer does not believe that blacks have a Second Amendment right to carry a firearm. Comply or not, the officer had him at point blank range and should have withheld fire until he saw a weapon appearing. A guy seated with a belt on cannot draw and fire that fast, nor would a real threat give a heads up he has a weapon. This was an over reaction by someone who should not be a cop.
I carry but on the rare occasion i am stopped I have my window down, interior light on if at night, ignition off, ID, registration and insurance in hand, and my hands on the wheel. i do not advertise anything about a weapon, don’t say much, and try to end the encounter as quickly as possible.
I, too am a CPL holder. The one time I’ve been pulled over while I was carrying (pistol was between driver’s seat and center console) I was speeding. I was on my way to work. I put my hands on the steering wheel as the officer (state police) approached. I IMMEDIATELY disclosed that I was a CPL holder and indicated the location of my pistol. I kept my hands on the wheel until I was asked for my ID and papers. I indicated to the patrolman that my license was in my handbag which was located on the passenger seat and my registration and insurance was located in my glove box, and I needed to reach over the firearm to obtain the things he was requesting. I waited to see his reaction and would have given the patrolman the option to take the firearm completely out of the equation if he wanted. He never asked for it, because I was respectful. He clocked me doing 16 over (I was admittedly speeding, running late for work) but given that I don’t have a record, my driving record is relatively clear, and I acted responsibly and respectfully during the stop, he wrote me for only 5 over, THANKED me for my handling of the situation and asked me to drive slower. That patrolman didn’t know if I was truly a woman just late for work, (first shift) or if I was a third shifter just getting out of work and had hit the bar, or drugs, or whatever. Be respectful and they will be respectful of you.
I take it you’ve not watched the video where the cop gets shot in the head before he gets to the window?
Unless the guy had a license to carry, it was illegal for him to have his gun on him in the car, right? And what we have seen from prior posts indicate that he probably didn’t have a license to carry.
My FOID was issued by the State of illinois. Are CCW licenses issued by county or local agencies or by the state?
Each state varies, in Missouri anyone (non felon) can have their firearm in the car with them loaded without a CCP either hidden from view or not.
The absence of a permit would completely destroy the story the woman told on the video.
This is a common trick of criminals to lie about having a CCW to an LEO at a stop in order to put the LEO at ease, even if for a second. Then comes the sucker punch…BANG!…dead cop.
jessinwis says:
I can’t leave a “like” for this, because I don’t like the situation you describe here, but I appreciate your comment. Police are under so much stress. So too are the communities. This is tragic.
This woman LReynolds is showing signs of BT-800 syndromes.
and he probably didn’t have a driver’s license like he never had all the umpteen times he was picked up before (25 times or so) and didn’t have a car registration and didn’t have insurance…so what was he fishing for in his pocket? an empty wallet. Remember all this post shooting stuff is from dopey Lavisha. He may have never told the cop he had a gun…only Lavisha said so. It looks as if when the cop saw the gun and told Philando not to move, he moved and the cop shot.
VegasGuy says:
“A guy seated with a belt on cannot draw and fire that fast, nor would a real threat give a heads up he has a weapon.”
And yet there WAS a weapon. So you sort of answer part of your own question yourself….
Agree with part 2………We only have the girlfriend word that he said (announced) he had a weapon. She made contradictory statements regarding his motions, & the Officer made utterences that he warned him not to reach for whatever….Doesn’t sound convincingly that he informed the Officer that he was armed.
Disagree completely with part 1 “A guy seated with a belt on cannot draw and fire that fast”
What if the weapon were tucked into his crotch area? Easy reach & stealthy move of the left hand which could be out of sight of the officer until the weapon is clear of the suspect’s thighs & now traveling up to a shooting position…..
In one pic you can plainly see a weapon on his lap partially covered by his tee-shirt.
How did you come to that conclusion, that video shows nothing that happened leading up to the shots that were fired. BLM and the sh!t head in the white house are involved, that means the cop was justified. They do not get involved in legitimate cases, there is no money in the truth for the BLM terrorists.
I guess gov has already been made privy to all facts and evidence…not. Shame on him for intentionally fueling the fire.
The Democrap way, they are liars and vicious monsters who don’t care about innocent citizens, they only protect criminals.
It looks like Philando Castile
https://www.facebook.com/philando.castile?fref=ts
was one of the armed robbers at the local Super USA July 4 a few blocks from the traffic stop July 6
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/07/05/lauderdale-armed-robbery/
Sames shirt as facebook and that pointy chin https://www.facebook.com/philando.castile?fref=ts
Better picture
Idk, but hmmm….glasses, too.
Glasses have that distinctive U shape like a glacier-shaped valley.
That’s not him, it’s the other perp, possibly Diamond/Lavish.
not the same dude…
and be careful making accusations.
ignorancecosts says:
Check out his shoes in this pic. Then check out the shoes he is wearing on his FB page picture (3 poses in plaid shirt) same shoes.
Michael Brown redux?
Did anyone contact the number given in the CBS story to report tips?
They took his FB down I think, did you happen to screen shot the photo🙂
No. It’s still there. But screen shots, yes.
Thanks, I might need to sign in, I can’t get it to come up 😊
Cant get FB page to come up.
Is his FB page still up? I can’t get to it.
I archived it
https://archive.is/PLtGI
Armed robbery wow, Street cred like that will get him Art Museum or Civic Center built or reopened in his mame. Dems love their criminals. Freddie Gray sold hard drugs and that got him a Youth Center, The Freddie Gray Youth Center(can’t make this stuff up), Trayvon got his own memorial and shares it with other criminals who died from Sanford, Fl.(i’m not kidding when I say criminals, Sanford has to be the only town in the US, that has a memorial for known criminals). Mike Brown got a sidewalk plate that let everyone know that he left an afterglow of smiles, unicorns and rainbows, days full of sunshine and happiness( yeah, he probably did smile when he robbed and beat a store owner and thought he got away with it).
graphiclucidity says:
I made a comparison.
The middle pic is from Castile’s Facebook.
The pic on the left is the original photo of the robbery suspect.
The pic on the right is the same, only brightened and exposure adjustments to see the face slightly better.
//s.imgur.com/min/embed.js
USA1 shoe description “dark-color shoes with white highlights” to me fits better than USA2, which I’d instead describe as “with white soles”.
That white “U-band on top” or “white highlights” are best seen in this well-lit photo
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/08/the-curious-case-of-philando-castile-falcon-heights-mn-police-shooting/
oops, this comment was meant for the other thread, I posted it over there.
I’m thinking Castile looks more like suspect USA1 than USA2, in agreement with lucid, I think
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/08/confirmed-philando-castile-was-an-armed-robbery-suspect-false-media-narrative-now-driving-cop-killings/comment-page-4/#comment-2669226
later discussion focused more on USA2, with some argument the facial hair wasn’t quite right.
but from the start I’ve thought “more like USA1”, focusing mainly on the shoes and narrow-rounded toe shape and possible light U-band on top (maybe the “white highlights” in robbery description)
Well they confirmed a gun was recovered at the scene……How long does it take to confirm a valid CCW? That shouldn’t take long at all. Just look up the CCW database, right? Wouldn’t that bolster there position if there actually is one?
Guess the CRS & DOJ is processing a predated application….
@cameron_dehart Mr. Castile never applied for a permit to carry with our office. Therefore we did not issue his permit.
— Ramsey Sheriff (MN) (@RamseySheriff) July 7, 2016
Jon612 says:
CCW is not public info in MN.
The sheriff could not be more clear.
The only way to get a permit is from the sheriff in the county of your residence.
The sheriff denies existence of the permit or even an application.
There was no CCW permit for Castile.
Just another bald-faced lie from Lavish Diamond.
Happy go lucky says:
Has he lived in a different county in the last 5 years?
Diamond/Lavish knew that, and so she knew her lie could get a lot of traction before it could be proven wrong.
TrumpFanGirl says:
Look in his wallet?
Niagara Frontier says:
Protesters blocking traffic in NYC. That didn’t take long.
They are idiots, cops need to spray them all with Fox urine, that will make them leave faster than anything.
Those people stuck in their cars and buses aren’t going to get home for hours. On TV I just observed an open-top, double decker tourist bus stuck in the mess. I wonder what those tourists are thinking. Hope they went to the bathroom before they boarded.
The National Guard should be called in and clear those useless excuses for human beings out. They are endangering peoples lives, but the communist pathetic Government of New York won’t do anything, all this BS is taking the attention away from Hillary Clinton. The police need to get out the rubber bullets and tear gas.
Seriously, these people continue to hinder innocent, hardworking citizens, families, elderly from going about their daily lives. Why can’t they be stopped…not to even mention the cost of monitoring these riots to be.
Taking attention away from Hillary, the Dems who run NY will not stop this. They want this, Innocent Americans are the Dems enemy, they only protect criminals, like Hillary Clinton. This just makes me sick. Hopefully the people in NYC will get sick of this and vote out the Dems, but I won’t hold my breath.
FerociousFlower says:
Or just tell them all “We’re turning this into a Recruiting Event. If you stay, I guarantee, you will all have a job to report to – first thing in the morning”. POOF … streets are empty.
Philando Castile and Diamond Reynolds on the 4th of July
Nice title: “Forth type shit”
Monroe says:
Is that pot? Is there a child in the car? If pot then call CPS. Isn’t that driving while under the influence if that is weed?
she says she’s smoking a joint in the vid.
Even back when we were first married a million years ago, my wife and I smoked very little. And once we had kids, we quit altogether. The only time either of our kids were exposed to it was by accident… or well, I guess we should have known better. 😉 Because it’s when our oldest was 5 years old and we took him to a Queen / Billy Squier concert. We wound up sitting way up in the top level of an arena and… well, it got kinda foggy up there. The kid was super happy and giddy for about half an hour, and then suddenly out like a light. 😉
@Monroe – Yes, I would categorize her actions as Child Endangerment.
Funny how the black demographic L-O-V-E to refer to MLK Jr as their prophet, savior, etc …But if they were held to his words “content of character / color of skin …etc” passage – her video should determine just that – content of character is lacking. However, we all know, they do not want to be judged by character, and instead INSIST on blackness as the ONLY identifier. Of course, ONLY black wonderfulness, righteousness, culture blah blah blah – ignoring ANY black dysfunction and ANYTHING in the least-bit derogatory toward “black-culture”.
I’m sooooooooooo over this lot of malcontents …soooooooo over all of it.
Have stayed out of commenting on this event until some more information is released, but I do find this post (supposedly) by Phil’s brother rather disturbing.
Sidenote: I think Lavish/Diamond is either gay or possibly bisexual. This photo is with Phil
this is a post from her that may show her sexual orientation
There are other (better) examples, but I didn’t want to post them here.
For facebook, search Philando Castile of the University of Minnesota (never attended or worked there) https://www.facebook.com/philando.castile?fref=ts
Not sure if this will work, but it’s an historic pic from “Phil’s” FB of two armed black panthers standing in front of a black panther party sign and he captioned it “BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY !”
Exactly, this smells fishy to me, his girlfriend is a terrible actress.
Yeah, let’s see how long it takes the Trayvon-loving media to unravel the facts here. That woman’s behavior is truly inhuman. Hopefully the officer has a camera.
The armed robber wears a pair of fancy sneakers:
Philando Castile belongs to the MN/Fashion sneakers facebook group
Philando Castile belongs to the MN/Fashion sneakers facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/352141541723/
That Democrap Governor knew what he needed to do and say to get his state in the news and to take the attention away from Hillary Clinton, looks like the BLM terrorists and the Obama Administration got themselves a new goat boy.
Sorry this was in response to another post. I must have posted wrong.😊
Ramsey Sheriff (MN) @RamseySheriff
Surprise, surprise….not
This is the story the left wants to obscure the Clinton crimes. That’s why Obama is on t.v. at this moment speaking about it, though he knows NOTHING about it. That’s why the dems at the hearing today wanted to deflect onto this issue. To me, it’s a shooting, let them investigate it.
Riling up the votes.
Instead of trying to stop the blood she is calmly filming how he dies.
The police too, why nobody helps him to stop the blood ???
Maybe she’s high
Lavish Reynold’s 4th of July, “forth type sh–” video, appears to show her smoking MJ, some improvised cigarilla.
I did not watch the video, but when I read that she started filming immediately, I questioned her decency, compassion, humanity…how can you film another person instead of trying to help him?
Hector R. Vasquez says:
She started the lies so that there would be riots and anger from the black community. She played the victim. She was just his partner in crime. I just feel sorry for the child.
The officer’s last name is llanes This is a spanish name. He wasn’t even white. The cop told him not to reach for the gun and she made it seem like it was his id. A big fat liar.
Didn’t some criminal activist tell BLM supporters in Ferguson that some will need to die for the cause. BLM teamed up to support the Islam Radicals, giving their lives would be a badge of honor in their sick twisted eyes. Something was really off about that video and the timing is just perfect for the Hillary cover up.
another video from the 4th that features Phil on the phone…
fine parental skills. Smoking in the car with the kid in the back seat, then yelling at them. SMH
per her appearance in the shooting video, it looks to me like she got her hurr (hair) did since the 4th.
Tells the baby get up “n-” at 2 minute mark.
Poor kids trying to run away…no need to wonder what’s wrong. It has gone on for generations. They know no better.
Gosh, what a good mom, that’s exactly what MY mom used to say, :”put the guns down and let the babies enjoy the holiday”. NOT.
She’s always the center of attention.
John Carifidy says:
This is interesting; check out the letterhead:
https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13626396_1131268846895868_1134815650470095675_n.jpg?oh=9cb9aa23434e26fdd826261b188898c2&oe=57FECBCC
Don’t know how to make the image show up, but this is a statement by his Union, the Minnesota Teamsters Public and Law Enforcement Employee’s Union, Local 320
He was killed by a union brother.
Pozzo says:
Watch the video again people – Do they have a right-hand drive car?
When you upload to FB it flips video.
No Facebook doesn’t. I upload videos quite often and they are always in the correct perspective. Now the Reverse Camera in cell phones reverses things. I noticed in the first video posted above she did quite a bit of switching from the forward facing camera to the selfie reverse camera. The selfie camera is like a mirror image. It shouldn’t be used for normal video recording … Someone doing that is not the sharpest tool in the shed. The selfie camera qualify is less as well.
I was wrong on that. Maybe it’s something to do with Facebook live? Or specific to her phone camera? Mine you see a mirror image but when you take a photo or record video it is flipped to normal as someone else or you would see an object without a mirror.
JustSomeInputFromAz says:
Something about this incident does not smell right to me.
“Lavish” is moving the camera around quite a bit, but there is clear focus on “Mr. Phil” at the 0:05 mark, the 0:48 mark, and from the 0:59 thru 1:19 marks.
Looking at each of those four marks, I cannot see any change in the pattern of blood on “Mr. Phil”…..it simply seems he stopped bleeding?
I am not a Doctor, nor have I ever witnessed a human shot with a bullet, but it just seems the blood pattern should have changed over the course of little over 1 minute of the video.
Adjusting tin foil now……
He was dying. Blood pressure going down reducing active bleeding. And stupid Lavisha carrying on like it’s a movie or something. Her poor little daughter spawned from an idiot.
Perhaps a valid explanation for the blood pattern, but this thing still smells to me. Thanks
Obozo is trying to rile up his blacks. The thing to do is let an investigation procede. Apply the law to the facts in an impartial manner, and move on to MAGA.
That hasn’t so well these past few years. Trayvon Martin – bust. Michael Brown – bust. Freddie Gray – bust. Walter Scott – murder charges against the cop will be dropped. And now Alton Sterling – armed felon resisting arrest – bust. Philando Castile – ? along the same lines the more we learn. Criminal culture of a people with way too much down time on their plate. That’s what needs to change.
Idle hands are the Devil’s workshop?
and an idle self-centered mind
Why do cops keep trying to police black perps? I would just let them run. Let the Feds deal with it.
That’s what it will come to. Shoot outs in the Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, Atlanta, St. Louis, etc corrals. They will be penned up in the very bowels of the cities with Black or dark-skinned cops (and multiracial administrators at arms’ length). Periodically they will open the gates and let out all the little children they can find to rescue them from the deprivation so they can grow up safely and happily ever after away from the morass..
Escape from New York.
Rinnngggg…
911 what is the problem?
I am calling becaus I have been raped and robbed
911: Was the perp black or white.
Victim: I think he might have been black.
911: OK here is the phone number of the Civil Rights Division of DOJ in Washington. Call them or the local NAACP.
Just poking around various online records looking for info about Lavish. Her mother is Dafina Doty, living in Indianopolis right now though Intelius says she has also lived in the Minneapolis area. There are two criminal records for Dafina in MN, one in 2007 for not having a drivers license, and one in 2008 for receiving stolen property. For that second conviction her name is Dafina Niyonu Palmer. There is also a business record in Indianopolis with her last name as Humphrey. The multiple last names is just so typical, isn’t it? I suspect that Lavish also has some court records somewhere but not under Reynolds. Perhaps Palmer or Humphrey?.
http://www.twincities.com/2008/10/29/man-charged-with-sexual-assault-of-man-he-suspected-of-burglarizing-a-friend/
A man was charged today with physically and sexually assaulting another man in St. Paul that he suspected of burglarizing a friend’s house, according to a criminal complaint.
The Ramsey County attorney’s office charged Taylor Gordon IV, 22, of St. Paul, with first-degree criminal sexual conduct and third-degree assault.
The complaint gave this account:
Police were dispatched Oct. 20, 12:48 a.m., to a home in the West Seventh Street neighborhood about a burglary. Dafina Niyonu Palmer told police she had just returned to her home in the 600 block of Canton Street from Chicago and found it burglarized.
There was no forced entry and Palmer told police she suspected a man who had lived with her for a brief time, had a key and knew she was in Chicago.
“Dafina Palmer was very upset and made numerous comments about doing physical harm” to the man, the complaint said. “Palmer was advised to let investigators handle the burglary.”
I do think this is Lavish’s mother.
Wow, that story is very strange. Here’s a different version of it. Apparently it happened in 2008, and I think Lavish might have been involved, I think she might be the 19 year old daughter mentioned in the article. Does anyone know how old Lavish is now? http://www.twincities.com/2008/10/30/st-paul-burglary-suspect-is-assaulted/
Dafina Palmer found her home in the West Seventh Street neighborhood burglarized Oct. 20 and said she suspected the burglar was an 18-year-old man who is her 17-year-old daughter’s best friend. Gordon is the girl’s boyfriend, Palmer said. Gordon beat up the man and sexually assaulted him with an object, the criminal complaint said. Prosecutors also have charged Palmer’s 15-year-old son and 17-year-old daughter, Ariel T. Doty, in juvenile court with aiding and abetting first-degree criminal sexual conduct. The boy’s name isn’t public because of his age. Palmer didn’t dispute the physical assault but said in an interview Thursday the sexual assault didn’t happen. She said only Gordon took part in the beating, and she and her children tried to stop it. “This has all been a tremendous misunderstanding,” said Palmer, 35. […] “Dafina Palmer was very upset and made numerous comments about doing physical harm” to the man, the complaint said. “Palmer was advised to let investigators handle the burglary.” Doty called the victim and Gordon to give her support after the burglary, Palmer said. When the victim arrived, Gordon took off after him, Palmer said. She and her 19-year-old daughter tried to hold Gordon back, but, Palmer said, “He was throwing us around like ragdolls.” At 4:40 a.m., police were dispatched to West Seventh Street and Watson Avenue about a man sitting on a bus bench who appeared to have been assaulted, the complaint said. […] Police arrested Palmer, her 15-year-old son, her 19-year-old daughter, her nephew, Doty and Gordon, according to the complaint and Palmer. Gordon, Doty and the 15-year-old were charged; the others were released.
If I’m right and this is Lavish’s mother, then Lavish must have grown up in one harsh ghetto family.
It was Lavish who was arrested with her mother in 2008.
Diamond Laraye Reynolds was booked in St Paul, MN on 10/20/2008.
The following Official Record of Diamond Laraye Reynolds is being redistributed by MugshotsNow.com and is protected by constitutional, publishing, and other legal rights. This Official Record was collected from a Law Enforcement agency on 8/27/2013. Address herein provided within Official Records.
MugshotsNow.com ID: 19567915
Arrest Address Street: 635 CANTON
Arresting Agency: ST PAUL PD
Arrest City: ST. PAUL
Arrest State: MN
Arrest County: RAM
City Of Violation: ST. PAUL
Arrival Date: 10/20/2008 8:15:00 AM
Address No.: 635
Place Of Birth: CHICAGO
Address Street: CANTON
http://www.mhomes.info/minnesota/minneapolis/diamond-laraye-reynolds/108733821
I believe I have located Lavish’s father. Mother Dafina sued him for child support in Cook County IL (Chicago). https://w3.courtlink.lexisnexis.com/cookcounty/Finddock.asp?DocketKey=CABADAJAEAH0DR
Attorney(s): STATES ATTY CHILD SUPPORT
Plaintiff: PALMER DAFINA N
Defendant: REYNOLDS ANTHONY
So typical. Squirt out a kid by some guy you’re not married to, then sue him for child support so you can go on welfare.
And here’s a different case Dafina was involved in with the father, maybe they had two kids together. https://w3.courtlink.lexisnexis.com/cookcounty/Finddock.asp?DocketKey=CAABDAJAHHI0DR
Mother Dafina appears to also have been arrested in 2011 in Hennepin County MN. http://jail.com/arrest-records/dafina-doty-2950263
I might stop looking. I can see now that Lavish, whatever her name is, comes from a really rough family. Probably multiple father situation, yet no fathers around, mother is a criminal, etc. Gee where have we seen this before.
Mother was married to a Humphrey in 1989 and a Palmer in 2001. She probably never married Reynolds. Girl got around, that’s for sure. http://marriage-divorce-records.mooseroots.com/d/c/Dafina-Doty
Castile seems to have been a stupid but calm guy … until he met Lavish ….
Officers down in Dallas!
Is Obama happy now!? Blood on his hands. This is developing fast in Dallas, does not look good. I have an impression of what I saw on the film but do not want to report it in case I’m wrong, but it looks very very ominous.
Watching it too…?? Didn’t even know protests were going on..?
Reporting two officers shot, preliminary report from FOX.
Hoping against hope they are alive and dispatched suspect. No indication yet.
Not looking good. Report is rifle used. Two officers removed from scene. No word on condition. Again, preliminary, it will probably be quite a while before we know for sure.
Now it’s all reporters what other reports are telling them. Video clearly depicted numerous shots, probably 8-10 in two groups. Video clearly showed motionless officer on ground.
THIS is what Obama has wrought upon this country!
Unfortunately this will more than likely become more common. I fear its going to be a long hot summer.
This is what Obama and the left want, believe it.
Just left my comment on Minn. governor’s line–told him he was judgemental and intemperate in his remarks and that he is, in large part, responsible for the riots breaking out.
It don’t matter… well, at least not unless the suspect is white and the officer is black. Then maybe the media will care, at least a little.
please God let this not be true
***Breaking***** Cop shot DEAD LIVE ON @FOXNEWS, Dallas protest*****
— TrumpCoastOfSC (@Ma1973sk) July 8, 2016
Focus is on a parking garage and possible sniper(s). Audio from KDFW did include multiple gunshots that sounded like rifle fire to me.
Prayers up for the PO’s. As if Dallas PD didn’t already have enough problems…
DALLAS — Murders are up this year in Dallas, as are robberies, assaults, and burglaries.
Murder is up almost 32 percent to start 2016 and the number of aggravated assaults has risen almost 48 percent. Nonviolent crime is up 5 percent in Dallas.
http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/dallas-county/dallas-police-officers-outraged-over-radical-staffing-changes/102446524
DALLAS — Dallas police officers are leaving in droves.
We talked to an officer whose last day was Wednesday. He joins more than 40 others who quit in the month of May[2016].
http://www.wfaa.com/news/exodus-continues-at-the-dallas-police-department/215006466
I’d quit too. No support, no tools. That is why crime goes up, and they are crucified if they actually do their jobs. Shame on Obama for sticking his nose in shootings he knew NOTHING about, NOTHING! And now we have to Dallas officers shot. Hoping for the best, expecting the worst.
Bill meets Lynch on Tarmack.
Hillary has “at home” Tea party with Comey and the boys.
Comey says no evidence to prosecute
Country goes wild
Two black shootings = almost 100% change the media
Hillary had no compunction about letting Ambassador Stevens die. No compunction about the millions killed in the middle east, on all sides. Do you think she cares about a couple locals “taking one for the team”. I tell you, it’s all too convenient. I wouldn’t put anything past Killiary and Bill.
Raffaella says:
I am completely heart broken and traumatized by all these officer involved shootings resulting in quite a few black men’s death and offficer’s death. I just cannot watch another disturbing video. It seems that 1. cops are trigger happy, 2. No one seem to care enough to perform life saving medical care for the person shot, 3. BLM is making everything worst by calling everyone racist.
I know this is not a popular opinion here but I had to say it. That little girl’s voice on this video really got to me.
Yup…Calling for Mommy…some Mommy, huh? Poor child….I just wish all these little kids would be planted with good parents out of their awful environments forever.
The little girl had probably already seen more prior to the shooting than most of us would see in our lifetimes. The shooting will probably have no impact on her. She was already ruined.
I feel bad for all the officers being shot do to the lies put out by the lying families, the BLM terrorists, our dumb azz President and the media. The mother should have never put her child into a drug filled situation. I feel bad for any child whose parents are so selfish, they can’t give up the drugs not even for their children. Cops were shot tonight because this jack wipe girlfriend filled social media with lies and the dumb azz President and Democrat Governor got up and spewed more lies.
Same glasses as armed robber
http://www.kare11.com/news/crime/police-2-wanted-in-gas-station-robbery/264734180
at nearby Super USA convenience store.
What kind of man was #PhilandoCastile? He memorized names of 500 kids he served daily, with their food allergies https://t.co/3p1vVaL5nT
— Boing Boing (@BoingBoing) July 8, 2016
Interview with retired Professor of Law, (who happens to be the gentleman who wrote the Minnesota Personal Protection Act of 2003) on the situation in Falcon Heights and their subcontracting of police from St. Anthony: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/07/07/3796266/philando-castile-shooting-st-anthony-police-falcon-heights-improper-stops/
Always quick to play politics after a shooting…. https://twitter.com/ClickingSticks/status/751248175265095680
Statement from Chairman Ken Martin on the Shooting Death of Philando Castile https://t.co/kSgbYHo9Pf
— Nancy in MN (@ClickingSticks) July 8, 2016
Teresa in Fort Worth, TX says:
If he was driving the car as his girlfriend claims, then why is his seatbelt over his right shoulder and why does that look like a rear seat window?
That was my question. The steering wheel is on the right side. The whole picture is backwards somehow???
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gingersnaps says:
Okay people here we go again about white vs blacks. I’m not a racist person, but I am tired of people playing the race card. I don’t care if your black, white, yellow, brown, purple, green, olive, red and etc. Stop focusing on the color of the skin, and start focusing on the situation at hand. Like this shooting of Philando Castile this week. Did anyone watch this video that was posted? Does anyone question the following:
~Why doesn’t she seem upset? She seems very calm after watching a cop “shoot her boyfriend’s arm off”!]
~Why isn’t she checking on him or asking him how he is doing? (yes, he’s clearly been shot and isn’t doing great. But wouldn’t you be making sure you can do whatever you can do to make sure he stays alive? Comfort him the best you can? I get we all react differently, but I would have told the officer I’m going to check him and you can shoot me if you want. I’m not going to let my boyfriend die as I sit here watching him bleed out!)
~ She states they were pulled over for a busted tail light, and he’s covered they killed him as he lies there clearly in pain moving back and forth. Goes on to state he license to carry and he was trying to get out his I.D and wallet out of his pocket he let the officer know he was rech(but caught herself-but she could be all nerves trying to talk) has a firearm and was reaching for his wallet, and the officer just shot him in the arm. She goes on calmly how they are waiting for back up, and the officer said to keep her hands where he can see them, and she stated she will respectfully. Then states how he shot his arm off! The officer stated he told him not to reach for it, and she states he told him to get his I.D and driver license, and omg please don’t let my boyfriend go like this (but seems calm and collected as she video tapes her boyfriend bleeding out) please don’t tell me his dead! Umm didn’t you stated they killed him in the beginning of the video?
~She says that the officer put 4 bullets into him, but at the end of video she says the officer shot him for no apparent reason, then said they shot him 3x’s for a busted tail light! Okay so what happen?!?
~clearly the officer told him to don’t move after learning he was carrying and he did anyways, but now the officer shot him in the arm 4 or 5 times!
~she’s asking for a ride home, not to the hospital and the police department shot her boyfriend 4x, he’s lichens to carry, they had a busted tail light and some weed and that’s it! Umm clearly your weed is laced with something, because your wacked out making no damn sense! Your story is all over, and you don’t seem to concerned for your man.
~ She had to point out he was Chinese, but I thought everyone was making a big fit about a white cop profiling a black man. Just saying!
~ How is she handcuffed and still recording? Doesn’t anyone notice it cuts out?
COME ON PEOPLE WATCH THE VIDEO LISTEN CLOSELY! IT SEEMS SO SHADY.
I will say we never know how we will react to a situation, and we all handle stuff differently. But this video has caused more lives to be lost before anyone knows what really happen, and going on the word of this girlfriend who clearly don’t seem to be all there herself. To many of us are quick to react, instead of standing back to see the whole picture!
I’m sorry if you don’t agree with me, and you don’t have too. You are in title to your own opinion, and thoughts too. But I felt like I needed to state what everyone is missing, because to many of you seem to care that he was black, and not what really went down.
I have a lot of the same questions you do. And I also think most people here have similar reactions… I don’t agree that there’s many of us who “care that he was black, and not what really went down.”
But I’ll also agree with this… “I would have told the officer I’m going to check him and you can shoot me if you want. I’m not going to let my boyfriend die as I sit here watching him bleed out!” Maybe her and her “boyfriend” weren’t all that close, I don’t know. But if it was someone I really had strong feelings for, then yeah… I’d be saying/doing pretty much exactly what you said.
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Brenda Glass says:
there is more to the story than she is telling. Why did she start filming after the actor was shot instead of before so that we can see what went on between them officer and the deceased. they never tell the whole story they never dig deep enough to uncover anything that would justify the police taking deadly action day just casually omit things like the officer said don’t reach for your wallet keep your hands on the dash or something to that effect to which the man who was shot disobeyed the order. I’m just speculating only because I know how twisted and cut up and half truthful things are reported. I don’t buy this story
Why is it that as soon as something horrendous happens all the people that thrive on BS come out of the wood work. Is the shooting a terrible thing… YES! but until we can walk a mile in the shoes of both of the victims, yes the cop is also a victim, we cannot state what the cause or reprocussions are. Then all the idiots start to politicize it. I mean every shooting has to be the fault of Democrats… even if the politics at the time was Republican it is obviously has to be Democrats fault…. The victim and his girlfriend will undoubtably blame the police even if he had a gun… have her display his CCP and not just say he had it…. and why carry a gun on your lap… isn’t that really dangerous if you get into an accident? Also show the video before the shooting to show how he was only reaching for an iD and not making a commentary to twist the situation in your best interest to set up the inevitable lawsuit to get the city, state or anyone else to pay….. this was a horrible incident but one that could have been avoided if everyone had been above board.
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Presently visiting my grand daughter who says she is a fan of Tupac Shakur. Did some research, found out he was sued for inciting violence and causing the death of two Texas police in the 90’s. just making sure my 13 yr old doesnt get a warped view. Also found out he went to prison for (sexually) molesting a fan
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The Trump/Sanders Phenomena – Robert Parry
by The Daily Coin · August 26, 2015
by Robert Parry, The News Doctors
Exclusive: The prospect of another competition between the Clinton and Bush dynasties has sent activists from across the political spectrum searching for someone new – and leading to the unlikely emergence of unorthodox candidates, billionaire Donald Trump and socialist Bernie Sanders, writes Robert Parry.
As outlandish as Donald Trump is as a presidential candidate, it’s pretty obvious why he’s topping the polls of Republican voters: he’s tipping over the carts of “politics as usual” that Americans understandably hate. In a much more responsible way, Bernie Sanders is doing the same with Democratic voters though he’s still trailing Hillary Clinton in most polls.
One of the strongest arguments for Trump and Sanders is that they have refused to prostitute themselves in the scramble for million-dollar donations, a core corruption of the U.S. political process. Trump, a real estate mogul and reality-TV star, boasts about how he rejects big-money donors because he can finance his own campaign.
Sanders relies heavily on small donations and turned down an offer to create a “super PAC” that could have raised millions of dollars from wealthy supporters. Sanders’s campaign says its average donation is $31.30 as Sanders has tapped broad support among progressives in raising $15.2 million as of July, an impressive sum but still “far behind Mrs. Clinton’s fund-raising juggernaut,” the New York Times reported.
Neither Trump nor Sanders has competed in what many political analysts consider the key initial test for any “serious” candidate – the “silent primary” of lining up super-rich Americans who pour millions of dollars into campaign war chests so candidates can hire high-priced consultants and finance negative TV ads to tear down opponents. That process has made candidates from both parties dependent on special interests.
Ironically, for a nation that denounces Iran, Cuba and other countries for having special panels of religious elders or party leaders who approve rosters of acceptable candidates, the United States now has a political system that requires most candidates to parade themselves before billionaires who then select the finalists much like the judges do at one of Trump’s beauty pageants.
Trump is not wrong when he bluntly describes how this process works, noting that the wealthy donors are sure to show up after the election with their hands out for favors if their hand-picked candidate wins. The presidency and pretty much every elected office in the United States are up for sale.
Americans across the political spectrum are rightly disgusted by this corrupt system and thus Trump stands out as someone whose personal wealth and almost comedic self-confidence make him harder to buy than, say, Jeb Bush, Scott Walker or almost any of the other Republican candidates. For different reasons, democratic socialist Bernie Sanders does too.
Clinton’s Style
Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton is part of a political dynasty that has made an art form out of vacuuming up money from Wall Street, Hollywood and everywhere in between as well as faraway lands. Bill and Hillary Clinton have sucked up million-dollar bundles of campaign cash, six-figure speaking fees from mega-corporations, and massive donations from foreign potentates to the Clinton Foundation.
With the Clintons, it seems like everything is for sale, leaving much of the public dubious about where their true allegiances lie. They appear to move through the political landscape triangulating as they go, calculating what is most advantageous to say at each moment and then immediately recalculating for the next moment.
As a U.S. Senator and as Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton either showed extraordinarily bad judgment or simply substituted this family process of endless triangulation for what passes as judgment. For instance, she voted for the Iraq War in 2002 not apparently out of any firm conviction that it was the right thing to do for U.S. national security but rather what looked best then for her political career.
At nearly every juncture, Hillary Clinton has opted for what seemed like the safe play at the time. Indeed, it is hard to think of any case in which she showed anything approaching genuine political courage or statesmanlike wisdom. Here is just a short list of her misjudgments afterthe Iraq War:
–In summer 2006, as a New York senator, Clinton supported Israel’s air war against southern Lebanon which killed more than 1,000 Lebanese. At a pro-Israel rally in New York on July 17, 2006, Clinton shared a stage with Israel’s Ambassador to the United Nations Dan Gillerman, a renowned Muslim basher who proudly defended Israel’s massive violence against targets in Lebanon.
“Let us finish the job,” Gillerman told the crowd. “We will excise the cancer in Lebanon” and “cut off the fingers” of Hezbollah. Responding to international concerns that Israel was using “disproportionate” force in bombing Lebanon and killing hundreds of civilians, Gillerman said, “You’re damn right we are.” [NYT, July 18, 2006] Clinton did not protest Gillerman’s remarks.
–In late 2006, Clinton fell for the false conventional wisdom that President George W. Bush’s nomination of Robert Gates to be Secretary of Defense was an indication that Bush was preparing to wind down the Iraq War when it actually signaled the opposite, the so-called “surge.” Later, to avoid further offending the Democratic base as she ran for president, she opposed the “surge,” though she later acknowledged that she did so for political reasons, according to Gates’s memoir Duty.
In the early months of the Obama administration, with Gates still Defense Secretary and Clinton the new Secretary of State, Gates reported what he regarded as a stunning admission by Clinton, writing: “Hillary told the president that her opposition to the surge in Iraq had been political because she was facing him in the Iowa primary [in 2008]. She went on to say, ‘The Iraq surge worked.’”
–In 2009, Clinton joined with Gates and General David Petraeus to pressure President Barack Obama into a similar “surge” in Afghanistan which – like the earlier “surge” in Iraq – did little more than get another 1,000 U.S. soldiers killed along with many more Iraqis and Afghans while extending the bloody chaos in both countries.
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Album Review – Phendrana / Sanctum: Sic Transit Gloria Mundi (2018)
Posted on March 4, 2018 by Gustavo Scuderi
Immerse yourself in this concept album about a Sanctum, an ethereal place where lost souls find shelter, bringing an amalgamation of sounds and nuances that will at the same time soothe your soul and stimulate your senses.
Anuar Salum, the mastermind behind Mexican Atmospheric Post-Metal Phendrana, is a self-taught multi-instrumentalist based in Mexico City who at the age of 12 started the project under the name Pakistuf, in memory of his grandfather Emilio Kuri Rame, recording a couple of albums and sharing the stage with bands like Alcest, Gehenna and Nader Sadek. Of Syrian and Lebanese descent, Anuar then took the project into a whole new direction in 2016 by changing the project’s main focus and concept, incorporating atmospheric and progressive elements to his music, and eventually changing its name to Phendrana. Now in 2018 it’s time for Anuar and his Phendrana to unleash upon humanity their first full-length opus, titled Sanctum: Sic Transit Gloria Mundi.
Recorded between October 2016 and November 2017, Sanctum: Sic Transit Gloria Mundi (with “sic transit gloria mundi” being a Latin phrase that means “thus passes the glory of the world”) is a concept album about a Sanctum, an ethereal place where lost souls find shelter. The album is divided in seven parts, those being a description of the Sanctum, three transitions from different souls to it, two stories about the past lives of Sanctum inhabitants, and an ode to the night. Featuring an elegant artwork by Mexican artist Caro Fer, based on the painting “Vanitas Symbols in a Landscape” by Dutch painter Matthias Withoos (1627–1703), this whimsical and unique album of contemporary heavy music will beautifully transport you to the Sanctum proposed by Anuar, bringing an amalgamation of sounds and nuances that will at the same time soothe your soul and stimulate your senses in a striking way.
A crescendo of dark sounds invades our ears until Anuar arrives with his harsh gnarls in a feast of contemporary extreme music titled Sanctum, a perfect depiction of modern-day Post-Metal featuring beautiful keyboards thoroughly blended with the song’s riffs and bass lines, with the second half of the song being a progressive and atmospheric sonic voyage. In addition, Anuar definitely knows how to add a touch of poetry to his lyrics (“An ivory gate, with marble wardens / A citadel, enshrined in an ocean of clouds / Hallways born in the heart of the forest / A legacy, a destiny, written in blood.”). Then we face sheer melancholy flowing from Anuar’s smooth guitar lines in The Threshold, a gentle bridge to the full-bodied aria Ethereum, with the song’s lyrics also bringing a sense of introspection to our souls (“Once an arcane blue aurora / Once ethereal, a fragrant memory / Once a sanctum for the shadows / Once a threshold to their twilight.”). Italian guest Vera Clinco (from Caelestis) provides her share of delicacy to the music with her gorgeous voice, with trenchant blast beats permeating the air in total sync with the song’s whimsical keys and atmospheric passages, again showcasing rage and desolation flowing from Anuar’s growls.
The Dream is another gentle bridge provided by Phendrana, ideal for closing our eyes and preparing our spirits for Where Ages Meet, where acoustic guitars ignite a precise extravaganza of modern metal music blended with ambient and rock music. Vera Clinco joins Anuar once again to beautify the overall musicality while the band’s mastermind continues his dark musical path through his raging roars and sharp guitar lines. Furthermore, several distinct elements from the most diverse range of styles are added to the background, increasing the song’s taste considerably. The Bog offers the listener one last breath of instrumental sounds and tones, this time infused with the mesmerizing sound of water, before the multi-layered Gjenganger presents Mexican musician Aracoelium as a guest vocalist, hypnotizing us all with her choir-like vocals, as well as what’s perhaps the heaviest sounding of all tracks with rawer-than-usual riffs and Black Metal-inspired frantic beats. And to make things even more exciting, an otherworldly break brings some peace to our hearts for a while, until Anuar returns in full force with his final stint of harmonious and thrilling devastation.
The music shelter to your lost soul crafted by Anuar and his Phendrana can be fully appreciated on YouTube and on Spotify, and you can always support such skillful artist by following him on Facebook and by buying a copy of Sanctum: Sic Transit Gloria Mundi through his BandCamp page, on iTunes or on Amazon. I confess I wasn’t familiar with the work by Anuar when the project was named Pakistuf, but I’m sure what he’s doing now with Phendrana represents an inspiring and healthy evolution for him as an artist and as a human being, and let’s hope he can continue to put us in a metallic trance with his atmospheric and modern heavy music for decades to come.
Best moments of the album: Sanctum and Where Ages Meet.
Released in 2018 Sickness Records
1. Sanctum 9:04
2. The Threshold (Instrumental) 1:55
3. Ethereum 9:15
4. The Dream (Instrumental) 1:51
5. Where Ages Meet 7:48
6. The Bog (Instrumental) 2:10
7. Gjenganger 6:58
Anuar Salum – vocals, all instruments
Guest musicians
Vera Clinco – female vocals on “Ethereum” and “Where Ages Meet”
Aracoelium – female vocals (choir) on “Gjenganger”
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Bahamas evacuees told to get off ferry headed to the U.S.
Posted 6:58 am, September 9, 2019, by Tribune Media Wire and CNN Wire, Updated at 07:31AM, September 9, 2019
Hurricane Dorian may have long since left the Bahamas, but the islands have only begun to grapple with the grim aftermath.
Less than a week since the Category 5 storm hit, 45 people have been confirmed dead — and that number is expected to rise drastically, officials say. Hundreds are still missing, nearly 70,000 have been left homeless by the disaster and hundreds more are desperately looking for a way out.
Over the weekend, nearly 1,500 evacuees arrived in Palm Beach, Florida, on board the Grand Celebration humanitarian cruise ship. All of them were properly documented to enter the country, US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) said.
But on Sunday, a different story.
In a social media video taken aboard a ferry boat leaving the Bahamas, posted on Twitter by CNN affiliate WSVN reporter Brian Entin, an unidentified person announces via a loudspeaker that anyone traveling to the United States without a visa must disembark.
Entin told CNN he was on a Balearia ferry from Freeport to Fort Lauderdale when the announcement was made Sunday. His video shows families with children disembarking the vessel. One woman told Entin that as many as 130 people left the ferry after the announcement.
Big problems on the ferry from Freeport to Florida — announcement just made that any Bahamian without a visa must now get off. This is not normal. Nornally Bahamians can travel to USA with passport and a printout of their police record. This is a mess. pic.twitter.com/DESUm2qBGE
— Brian Entin (@BrianEntin) September 8, 2019
“CBP was notified of a vessel preparing to embark an unknown number of passengers in Freeport and requested that the operator of the vessel coordinate with U.S. and Bahamian government officials in Nassau before departing The Bahamas,” CBP said in a statement Sunday.
“Everyone who arrives to the United States from another country must present themselves to a CBP officer for inspection at an official CBP Port of Entry. All person must possess valid identity and travel documents,” the agency said. “CBP has a Preclearance operation in Nassau. CBP is committed to carrying out our duties with professionalism and efficiency — facilitating lawful international travel and trade.”
On its website, CBP says visas are not required for Bahamian residents flying into the US from the Bahamas if they also meet other criteria, including possessing a valid passport or travel documents, having no criminal record and carrying a police certificate issued within the past six months.
“CBP relies on the transportation companies in both the air and sea environments to be engaged in ensuring the safety and well-being of any individuals that have been devastated by this tragedy and that requires transparent communication and planning for adequate resources to receive any arrivals,” CBP said in its Sunday statement.
It was not immediately clear what the required documents are for Bahamians traveling by boat.
“This is the height of cruelty — denying help to those who need it most,” Democratic presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke said on Twitter Sunday night. “This administration has said the words on the Statue of Liberty should be rewritten, and in their actions, they are already changing who we are as a country.”
Bahamas destruction like ‘nuclear bombs were dropped,’ USAID says
By Friday, the Coast Guard had rescued more than 230 people off the islands.
Those who lived through the storm bring with them horrific tales of survival: breaking through rooftops or swimming onto boats to try and ride out the violent waters. Some reported they had family members still missing and others recalled watching friends and neighbors drown in the storm surge.
USAID Administrator Mark Green told reporters on Sunday his agency is leading humanitarian relief efforts of the US government in the Bahamas by providing “lifesaving and life-sustaining assistance: food, water, sanitation, emergency shelter, and medical care needed to facilitate the Bahamian government’s response.”
On Saturday, USAID announced $1 million in additional humanitarian assistance to help people affected in the Bahamas. That brings the agency’s total funding to more than $2.8 million.
Green said he toured Abaco and other parts of the Bahamas after the hurricane and said some areas looked “almost as though nuclear bombs were dropped on them.”
Search and rescue operations continue
Local authorities believe there are people buried under the rubble, but they have no way of knowing how many or when they will be able to get to them.
Search and rescue personnel who arrived with cadaver dogs on the Abaco Islands brought body bags and coolers to store human remains, said Joy Jibrilu, director general of the country’s tourism and aviation ministry.
Marsh Harbour, the biggest town in the Abacos, was one of the hardest hit. A truck delivered at least two bodies to a makeshift mortuary Saturday. The morticians told CNN the difficulty in reaching the dead was slowing their work. Dive teams were needed to recover many submerged bodies, they said.
Authorities have said the current death toll may rise as search and rescue operations begin and they start sifting through the wreckage. In the hardest hit areas of Grand Bahama and the Abaco Islands, entire neighborhoods had been cleared out, trees and poles were down and boats were scattered.
The public should prepare for “unimaginable information about the death toll and the human suffering,” Health Minister Duane Sands told Guardian Radio 96.9 FM.
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Despite progress, Philadelphia region still contends with polluted air
Tom MacDonald
Air by sculptor Walker Hancock is on display at the Schuylkill Banks at the Cherry Street overlook after 15 years in a city storage facility. (Emma Lee/WHYY
Air in the Philadelphia region remains unhealthy on too many days, according to a new report.
“Our Health at Risk” concludes the region’s air quality is not up to par, said Ash Khayami of PennEnvironment. He presented the report Thursday morning at City Hall.
“Every day, Philadelphians are breathing dangerous air pollution that is insuring they are living shorter and unhealthier lives,” he said.
The Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington area experienced 97 days with elevated smog pollution in 2015, according to the report. It also recorded elevated particulate pollution on 212 days.
Those are indications that stronger measures are still needed to help curb air pollution in the region, despite recent progress, Khayami said.
Dr. Walter Tsu, a former city health commissioner, said the air could be cleaner.
“We, unfortunately, are sitting on a major refinery that occupies parts of South Philadelphia,” he said. “We are making major investments in this state around methane production.”
Several groups are urging Philadelphia and Pennsylvania officials to enforce environmental laws, even as the Trump administration moves to cut the EPA’s budget.
For many young people at the march, it was about showing the lawmakers and other people in power that they’re galvanized and ready for change.
Philly public defenders move for union vote after management skips voluntary recognition
The union, which would represent about 200 lawyers, said it’s holding out hope for a new proposal from management — but it’s still filing for an NLRB election.
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Julie Coker to leave Philadelphia Convention and Visitors Bureau
Julie Coker is moving on after four years of leading the Philadelphia Convention and Visitors Bureau.
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See "Understanding Non-relational Data Sources" in the Understanding EclipseLink (Concepts Guide) for additional information.
What is EclipseLink NoSQL?
EclipseLink supports JPA access to NoSQL databases such as MongoDB and Oracle NoSQL (as of EclipseLink 2.4). EclipseLink's existing JPA support can be used with NoSQL databases. A Java class can be mapped to a NoSQL datasource using the @NoSQL annotation or <no-sql> XML element.
EclipseLink also provides JPA access to EIS (Enterprise Information Systems) such as legacy databases and systems (CICS, ADA, VSAM, IMS, MQ, AQ). This support has been provided since EclipseLink 1.0 through the EclipseLink native API, and is now provided through JPA.
An EclipseLink EISPlatform is required to access a NoSQL data-source. EclipseLink provides NoSQL platforms for MongoDB, Oracle NoSQL, XML file, JMS and Oracle AQ. EclipseLink's NoSQL support is built on top of the standard Java Connector Architecture (JCA). EclipseLink can provide JPA access to a third party JCA adapter (such as Attunity) as long as it supports the JCA CCI API. The generic EISPlatform can be used, although it is normally desired to create a specific platform subclass for better integration.
EclipseLink's NoSQL support allows complex hierarchical data to be mapped, including XML, indexed, and hierarchical mapped data such as JSON data. CRUD operations, embedded objects and collections, inheritance, and relationships are supported. A subset of JPQL and the Criteria API are supported, dependent on the NoSQL database's query support.
What NoSQL data-sources are supported?
EclipseLink supports NoSQL databases through the Java Connector Architecture (JCA). EclipseLink can provide JPA access to a third party JCA adapter as long as it supports the JCA CCI API. The generic EISPlatform can be used, although it is normally desired to create a specific platform subclass for better integration.
EclipseLink supports adapters and platforms for the following NoSQL data-sources:
Oracle NoSQL
XML files
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“Lover” or Hate: Taylor Swift’s Newest Album
Taken in 2010, a five-year-old Alexandra shows off her Zuzu pet and unbrushed bangs, the same year Swift debuted bangs of her own.
Alexandra Rozmarin
For over a decade, Taylor Swift has dominated the pop charts, and over a decade, she has influenced the lives of young girls.
Like the time I got bangs in kindergarten because Swift had bangs, disregarding the fact that my face shape does not suit the hairstyle.
Her seventh and most recent album, Lover, released on Aug. 23, and I currently have it on repeat.
Over half of the 18 songs on the album are reminiscent of Swift’s usual pop style and follow her conventional theme of relationships.
In comparison to her last album, 2017’s Reputation, Lover is more mellow and less edgy, with more and more songs sounding similar to the rest of the 2019 pop scene.
Swift’s voice in “I Forgot That You Existed” and “I Think He Knows” follows a similar staccato cadence, and “ME!” sounds straight out of the Trolls soundtrack even with the addition of Panic! at the Disco artist Brendon Urie.
Despite the familiarity of most songs off Lover, a few standouts break the rules of 2019 pop because of their use of unorthodox instruments.
“False God” is the best example of this.
Its unmistakable, short introduction instrumental brings the listener back in time to a 1920s jazz club as the notes of a saxophone float out of the speakers.
Take an accidental nap while listening to the song and flappers will most definitely make an appearance in your dreams.
The rest of “False God” is more of a modern take on smooth jazz in the best way possible despite its lack of variability within the verses or beat in general.
“It’s Nice to Have a Friend” also has the ability to transport listeners.
Taken that same day in 2010, kindergarten eyes peak at the camera from behind bangs.
The strong presence of steel drums throughout the song changes the setting of my accidental-nap dream to a New York subway station, where the everyday routines of a Brooklyn commuter are interrupted by a reminder of their exciting, innocent, wonder-filled childhood.
Or maybe to the Caribbean where I lie on the beach next to my buddy Sebastian the crab from The Little Mermaid.
“Cruel Summer,” on the other hand, does not stand out for its use of an interesting instrument but rather for the intensity Swift constructs with her words.
Swift shouting “He looks up, grinning like a devil” has enough zeal to make you choke on the sip of water you happened to be taking at the exact moment the line played.
To make you nick yourself shaving in the shower.
To wake you up from that accidental nap.
“Death by a Thousand Cuts” is also fueled by passion, as Swift uses her mature vocal chops to emphasize “My time, my wine, my spirit, my trust/tryin’ ta find a part of me you didn’t take up.”
That line is enough to send you over the edge of crying after a bad day.
No matter how similar the piano track of “Death by a Thousand Cuts” is to “1000 Miles” by Vanessa Carlton, Swift stays relevant by being relatable.
By using unconventional instruments and emotion in her songs, Swift allows listeners to channel their personal troubles and tribulations, even if the message they interpret is not the one she originally intended.
Her ability to transport her audience and make them feel what she feels is unparalleled in the world of 2019 pop, with or without bangs.
Correction: Lyrics from “Cruel Summer” were originally misquoted. The information has since been updated, and Aquila regrets the error.
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Urban Land > Market Trends > In Brief: Seattle-Tacoma, San Jose Are Top U.S. Office Markets for 2017
In Brief: Seattle-Tacoma, San Jose Are Top U.S. Office Markets for 2017
Images courtesy of Marcus & Millichap’s 2017 U.S. Office Investment Forecast.
San Jose, California, and Seattle-Tacoma, Washington, hold the top two spots in Marcus & Millichap’s latest National Office Property Index (NOPI). Both markets boast vacancy rates below the national average and significant completions forecast for 2017.
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Other trends in office development include the following:
• Net absorption of approximately 83 million square feet (7.7 million sq m) is forecast to generate a 20-basis-point decline in the U.S. vacancy rate to 14.3 percent, marking the low point of the current cycle. The reduction in vacancy could spur an increase in the average asking rent of 3.5 percent.
• This year likely marks the high point in completions for the current cycle, as construction lenders maintain a conservative approach to underwriting office construction. Developers will complete 82 million square feet (7.6 million sq m) of space in 2017, exceeding the amount of new space delivered in the preceding year.
• The outperformance of central business district (CBD) properties led the office sector out of the Great Recession, but the suburbs continue to gain ground and make larger contributions to the overall performance of the office sector.
• Miami-Dade and Tampa/St. Petersburg are the highest-rated Florida markets, while positive supply-and-demand dynamics enabled Nashville, Atlanta, and Charlotte to secure high rankings. Elevated performance allowed Minneapolis/St. Paul to repeat its position as the highest-rated Midwest market.
The NOPI ranks 46 major office markets based on a series of 12-month, forward-looking economic, supply-and-demand variables and was published in Marcus & Millichap’s 2017 U.S. Office Investment Forecast.
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U.S. Senator Tammy Baldwin’s Rail Safety Reforms Included in Final Bipartisan Transportation Legislation
Baldwin provisions improve safety, transparency, and better communication between the railroads and local communities
By U.S. Sen. Tammy Baldwin - Dec 1st, 2015 03:47 pm
WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Senator Tammy Baldwin has announced that House and Senate negotiators have included several rail safety reforms she has championed in a long-term, bipartisan federal transportation compromise unveiled today, ahead of Friday’s deadline.
“I have been sounding the alarm for two years on the need to put in place strong rail safety reforms,” said Senator Baldwin. “This legislation includes reforms I have been fighting for to improve safety, transparency, and better communication between the railroads and local first responders and communities, so I am proud that Congress is taking action.”
Last month, two trains carrying hazardous materials derailed in Wisconsin and Senator Baldwin called on the transportation conference committee to include her long-time efforts in their final product.
“Wisconsin first responders should be applauded for their reaction to these derailments but railroad companies need to do more. We need to strengthen communication between railroads and local communities before an accident occurs and railroads must let first responders know what is moving through their community beforehand,” Senator Baldwin said. “We also need to make railroads share infrastructure inspection reports with local elected officials. This legislation will make that happen.”
The bipartisan, five-year transportation funding extension legislation announced today includes several provisions championed by Senator Baldwin, aimed at increasing safety and transparency along Wisconsin’s oil train routes:
Transparency: Currently, railroads do not have to provide bridge inspection reports to local officials—despite the obligation of local officials to protect their citizens and ensure the soundness of local infrastructure. Senator Baldwin’s provision would require a railroad to provide local officials a public version of the most recent bridge inspection report.
Real-Time Reporting: Currently, information about hazardous materials being carried through Wisconsin communities are only available to first responders after an incident has occurred. Senator Baldwin’s provision addresses concerns raised by the first responder community who would like real-time access to information about hazmat trains entering their jurisdictions in order to better prepare. Senator Baldwin’s reform requires U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Fusion Centers to provide real-time information to state and local first responders before a hazmat train arrives in their jurisdiction.
In addition, the bipartisan compromise includes provisions modeled after Senator Baldwin’s Crude-By-Rail Safety Act, which she introduced in March 2015.
Comprehensive Oil Spill Response Plans: The bipartisan legislation requires DOT to implement rules to require railroads to improve their plans for responding to a worst-case oil discharge.
Rail Carrier Liability Study: The bipartisan bill requires the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) to initiate a study on the appropriate levels of insurance for railroads carrying hazardous materials.
For more on Senator Baldwin’s advocacy for Wisconsin rail safety click here.
Read the full text of the bipartisan legislation here and a summary here.
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Matt Barnes Reportedly Accused of Choking Woman at NYC Nightclub (UPDATE)
UPDATED 12/5/16, 6:03 p.m.:
The Kings have released the following statement:
“We have clear standards of conduct and behavior expected of the entire Kings organization – on and off the court. We are working with all parties involved to gather information in order to take any appropriate next steps.”
Matt Barnes posted this on Instagram on Monday afternoon:
Barnes has also denied the accusations made against him through a representative, according to TMZ Sports. Barnes reportedly claims that he did not start a fight and choke a woman at New York City nightclub Avenue early Monday morning and says that he was defending himself during the alleged altercation.
The rep told TMZ Sports that it all started when DeMarcus Cousins accidentally bumped a woman sitting at a booth next to the one occupied by Barnes and Cousins at the club and that several men who were with the woman tried to get physical with Barnes. Cousins reportedly jumped into the mix to help defend his teammate before the police were called. Barnes claims he has taken photos of the injuries he sustained during the incident to prove his side of the story, and his lawyer told TMZ Sports that Barnes is “hopeful no charges will be pressed.”
Four employees at the Talihina Oklahoma Department of Veterans Affairs center have resigned after a patient was found with maggots in his wound shortly before he died.
Talihina director Myles Deering confirmed the maggots didn’t enter the wound after the patient died on Oct. 3, but rather were present while the patient was still alive.
However, Deering stressed that the patient did not die from the maggots themselves
.The secretary of the Army Corps of Engineers has turned down a permit for a controversial pipeline project running through North Dakota, in a victory for Native Americans and climate activists.
A celebration erupted following the Sunday announcement at the main protest camp in Cannon Ball, North Dakota, where the Standing Rock Sioux tribe and others have been protesting against the 1,172-mile Dakota Access Pipeline for months.
However it may prove to be a short-lived victory because President-elect Donald Trump has said he supports the project and policy experts believe he could reverse the decision if he wanted to.
Officials in Boulder County have released a plan to remove all genetically-modified crops from county-owned farmland within the next five years.
The county’s commissioners directed staffers to draft the plan following a series of heated public hearings in early 2016, where scientists argued farmers were being unfairly targeted and local activists said the crops in question threaten the county’s agricultural viability, and its reputation as an environmentally-conscious community.
The plan calls for farmers who lease county land for their operations to stop planting GMO corn within the next three years, and sugar beets within the next five years.
Nine farmers currently grow the modified corn and sugar beets on the county land they lease. The plants are engineered to withstand applications of an herbicide, sold under the brand name RoundUp, that kills weeds.
In their plan, county staffers acknowledged that forcing the switch to non-GMO crop varieties could result in added inputs, like the use of more pesticides and fertilizer, increased costs, and decreased yields for the affected farmers.
Michigan welfare drug screening program nets zero hits
Michigan did not catch a single welfare recipient using illegal drugs during a one-year pilot program designed to screen and test suspected substance abusers, provide them with treatment or kick them off government cash assistance if they refused.
In a Tuesday report to legislators, the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services said it conducted suspicion-based screenings for 14 of 443 Family Independence Program applicants or recipients between October 2015 and Sept. 30, 2016 in Allegan, Clinton and Marquette counties.
Only one of those individuals “was found by a clinician to have a reasonable suspicion of use of a controlled substance and required a substance use (drug) test,” according to the department.
However, that person dropped off the welfare rolls “for an unrelated reason” before the individual took a drug test.
All told, the state health department said it spent $700 for county clinicians to screen 14 welfare clients using an “empirically validated substance abuse screening tool.” Each drug test would have cost $75, but no welfare recipients actually took a test.
The Legislature appropriated $300,000 for the pilot program. While the department likely incurred some administrative costs on top of the screenings, spokesman Bob Wheaton said most of the funding will be returned to the state coffers for other uses.
“Our main goal was to help people who were receiving cash assistance to continue on a path toward self-sufficiency and reduce any barriers to employment, such as substance use issues,” Wheaton said.
State legislators will determine whether the pilot program helped the state achieve those goals, and whether it should continue, expand statewide or be modified in some other fashion.
Cupid’s Undie Run – Atlanta
Next February, be part of something great. Cupid’s is a “brief” fun-run that takes place in the middle of a BIG party. That’s right: party, run (a mile-ish, and at your own pace), party—all in benefit of Children’s Tumor Foundation, and all to #EndNF.
We encourage undies, but we get that it’s not for everyone – so whether you start a team for your friends, join a team or run solo, just come out, have a blast and raise some money for NF research!
Some Washington residents who disagree with Mike Pence’s positions on gay rights are making their values known to their new neighbor.
Until he moves into the Naval Observatory after taking office, the vice president-elect is renting a $6,000-a-month home in Chevy Chase, a swanky neighborhood in the Northwest quadrant of the nation’s capital.
Some neighbors have put up rainbow flags since the Indiana governor moved in to protest what they call his anti-gay policy positions. The flag represents a symbol of pride in the LGBT community.
Roughly half-dozen pride flags are outside of homes on the block where Pence lives and neighbors say more are on the way.
3. —–Several Alabama police officers are being investigated after they were caught on camera handcuffing an innocent black woman and leaving her on the floor of a Walmart for half an hour.
Brenda Rivers and her husband were stopped by police who were investigating the theft of a wallet. The police had already stopped another woman and asked to look through her purse for the wallet but did not find anything there. They asked to do the same with Rivers, but she did not want to give the officers her purse, since they had no warrant.
The officers then detained her after they claimed that she tried to leave the scene.
Jasmine Thomas, who filmed the incident, was among the crowd of shoppers who gathered to shout their support for Rivers even as she lay handcuffed on the floor while police argued with Rivers’ husband. Several witnesses in the crowd pointed out to the officers that the victim had already said that Rivers did not look like the person who snatched her wallet.
“The lady was here, she told the officer right here that it wasn’t her,” says the woman whose purse had been searched prior to the officers stopping Rivers in the video.
“The witness told him before they arrested her that it wasn’t her, I will go to court for her,” another witness chimes in.
“She said it wasn’t me,” Rivers yells from the floor repeatedly before one of the officers tells her that she is being arrested for “failure to comply.”
“Your officer walked over to the victim and asked her, before you even apprehended [Rivers], and she said no. That is wrong, oh my God, that is wrong,” the first woman who was searched later says in the video as the police continue to accuse Rivers of interfering with and impeding their investigation.
When the victim finally arrives, it is with an officer who appears to be a sergeant as she tells the officer, “I did tell them, its not her.”
Rivers’ husband then approaches the sergeant to ask why this is being allowed to happen, at one point saying, “[The officer] didn’t ask for no ID, he didn’t ask for nothing, he just assumed she was the one that took the lady’s purse. We didn’t know what he was talking about. I thought he was joking.”
Toward the end of the video, the handcuffs are finally taken off of Rivers, and her purse is returned to her.
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Keith Ellison Is An “Ethno Centric Racist”…. ????
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_xasTT2Dqo
5 Is Donald Trump A Prophet???
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Big Gay News
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Prison Radio.
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7. Second hour.
Audio clips to make fun of from the news.
8. Big Topic story.
Divide and Rule???
That’s going on.
We are also going into 2017.
Bl*ck people have cars, trucks, vans, buses, boats.
Some of us might even have a plane or helicopter.
We have communication.
We can push newsletters, we have privately owned social media, cellular telephones, computers, house phones and some folks are still rocking a fax machine.
We can totally coordinate and eliminate Bl*ck poverty. We can can coordinate and increase our safety.
We can have a physical Bl*ck network of commerce.
But we have the isms…
We have the classism and the folks that will be hucksters and thieves.
We have the folks who prefer that many be in impoverished for a few to be enriched.
We have sexism.
Too many cis bl*ck men that seriously want bl*ck women and femmes to “know their role” and be under control.
We have rape culture and you predators out there to cause harm and you nasty n*ggas that see every bl*ck as a potential “I got some p*ssy” story.
And I can here the pro birth nation builders already.
“BUT WHAT ABOUT CREATING MORE BL*CK BABIES!?!?!?”
We don’t have a healthy social infrastructure and you’re not serious about constructing one.
Let alone a physical infrastructure.
We still get gentrified.
We don’t even have neighborhoods, so fall back.
Those are just some quick thoughts I had on the way to work.
Happy Monday, F*ckos.
9. Jenna Jameson VS David Duke.
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Good Cops Being Good.
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Dolly Offers A Pardon.
Beloved country singer and actress Dolly Parton announced on Wednesday that her foundation would be donating $1,000 every month to each family affected by the wildfires raging through the Great Smoky Mountains.
Being a Tennessee native herself, Parton’s foundation and collective of companies, including the Dollywood theme park, resort, and dinner theater, are all contributing to the Sevier County fundraiser, the “My People Fund”.
The wildfires have ravaged Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge since Monday night. Several hundred homes have already been damaged, along with thousands of acres of Tennessee wilderness.
If you’d like to donate to the fundraiser, you can visit the Dollywood Foundation website here.
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Des Moines Police say 3 car crash, car shot, by unexpected felon PHOTOS
posted by Wendy Wilde - Jul 21, 2019
DES MOINES, Iowa - A Des Moines Police officer who says she recognized a car connected with a wanted felon, followed the car Sunday afternoon.
According to police, the driver tried to slip away from the officer, eventually driving into a busy intersection against a red light, hitting a car that then slammed into a pickup truck. The intersection was bottle-necked for hours after the crash.
"He was savvy to the fact that police were after him, even before the officer initiated a stop." Des Moines Police Sergeant Paul Parizek tells WHO Radio News. "When he got to the intersection of SE 14th and Maury he didn't yield for traffic, and hit one car, which knocked it into a pickup truck."
Detectives say the driver shot a gun out the window, putting a bullet hole in the side of the car it hit.
"It does appear, at one point, there was a shot fired from within his car." Says Sergeant Parizek. "We don't really know at this point if that was an accidental discharge on his part, or if he was actually trying to shoot at the police, or something else. But, the bullet hit that car." (photo of bullet hole in car, above)
The surprise came when officers arrested the driver. It turns out it wasn't the felon they thought it was. It was another felon.
"Not the guy we were looking for, but a different bad guy." Parizek tells WHO Radio News. "So, we're still on the look for the other cat."
Detectives at the scene say they found the gun laying on SE 14th Street. See photo below of Des Moines Police Detective putting gun in evidence container.
Photos by Wendy Wilde
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Russian Satellite TV channels in United States & Canada
Are you looking for free Russian TV channels? These TV stations in Russian are available free-to-air (FTA) direct to your home (DTH) on the Galaxy 19 satellite at 97.0°West covering North America.
Belarus TV
Satellite: Galaxy 19. Frequency: 11898 MHz. Polarization: V. S/R: 22000.
Visit website in Russian: www.belarus-tv.by/rus/
Visit website in English: www.belarus-tv.by/eng/
Watch live stream.
Satellite: Galaxy 19. Frequency: 11966 MHz. Polarization: H. S/R: 22000.
Christian religious programs and discussions.
Visit website in Russian: cnl.tv
Visit website in Russian: www.impacttv.tv
Rodnoy TV
Visit website in Russian: tbn-tv.ru/rodnoy/
Soyuz TV
Russian orthodox church religious programs.
See also: Russia Today (TV in English)
English language channel from Moscow with a Russian perspective on human interest stories and international affairs. Documentaries and news reports
Visit website in Russian: russian.rt.com/
Visit website in English: www.rt.com
TV channels in various other languages available in North America.
Russian satellite TV channels in Europe, North Africa and the Middle East.
TV channels in various languages available in Europe, North Africa and the Middle East.
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