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Re: Polynesian navigation
From: John Huth
Date: 2009 Jun 8, 10:26 -0400
Do you have any info on the squid light flashes? If they've been recorded on video somewhere, it would be interesting to see.
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 10:49 PM, <frankreed{at}historicalatlas.com> wrote:
Ken, you wrote:
"They would have to be awfully close to the surface for anyone to see it
above water. Do squid ever hang around the surface?"
The passage in Lewis specifies from one or two feet to more than a fathom below the surface. On a dark night, in the clear waters of the Pacific, you could easily see a flashing squid a few feet down. The majority of squid species have light-emitting organs. Some of these produce displays which have been called "dazzling" and "like fireworks". Some can produce strobing patterns that run rapidly down the entire length of the animal from the end of the head to the tips of the tentacles. The description in Lewis of "underwater lightning" would fit nicely. I got a kick out of this description (found on the web) of the flashes from the large squid Taningia danae: "Even though they do nothing to deter a 60-foot long sperm whale, the stroboscopic flashes of Taningia must be among the most terrifying sights in the blackness of the abyss?if the prey manages to survive the shock of a seven-foot-long carnivorous squid with stroboscopic arm flashers."
And yes, many squid come near the surface at night to feed.
One might say, 'if they're so common, how could they be unknown?' But just to remind us, note that the first images of a live giant squid in its natural habitat were acquired only five years ago --and giant squid are not uncommon. There's plenty left to be discovered about marine life in the deep oceans. Also, we're only talking about an unknown behavior here. The animal itself is probably familiar. Otherwise, it wouldn't be common enough to serve any navigational purpose.
Could squid somehow indicate the direction of the nearest land? Just speculating here, there might be some advantage in hunting from orienting the long axis of the animal's body perpendicular to sound waves generated by waves striking the islands. Pulses of light along the length of the animal would then show the direction of land quite nicely. Or it might be a simple daily migratory pattern. Maybe we should transplant some of these animals, whatever they are, to the Atlantic.
And you wrote:
"To me it sounds more like chemiluminescent bacteria or protozoans"
Of course, it might be some micro-organism, but many large organisms produce much more spectacular light displays (especially, but not exclusively, squid). Also Lewis notes that his informants distinguished the "underwater lightning" from common bio-luminescence which is in fact produced by micro-organisms and gives that "glowing water" effect in disturbed water. Finally, the fact that this "te lapa" is supposedly not seen within about eight miles of shore seems to argue against a micro-organism or other drifting plankton.
So how could we prove any of this? It seems to me that anything visible from a small boat on the sea surface would also be visible from a low-flying airplane or balloon. So we fly an airplane above some of the areas Lewis described and take video with a sensitive low-light camera. Then look for streaks of light. So get me a camera, an airplane, and a ticket to a South Pacific paradise, and I'll get right on it. :-)
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Native to Asia, radishes are cool-season crops. This is an observation, not a criticism. raphani in Washington, an important region for radish seed production in the US (11). Once seeds start to germinate, higher temperatures stimulate faster germination up to an optimal temperature, after which the speed of germination declines. We predicted that if we use 6mg/L of a salt composition of NaCl/H2O, then the radish seeds will reach the LD50 and would not grow. Visit RamLanz Dental Clinic and Laboratory in Mexicali, Mexico. Conduct a controlled experiment to test the toxicity of salt on the growth of radish seeds 2. Lab develops novel approach. Radish Lab - 304 Boerum St, Brooklyn, New York 11206 - Rated 0 based on 4 Reviews "Very creative group of people! I'd recommend anyone looking for. This laboratory activity will test the effects of various household chemicals on the germination and growth of radish seeds in the lab. You get five packets of seeds with at least 50 seeds per packet. Open-Ended Questions about the passage. They are, of course, in their element when simply salted and dipped in butter, but their vibrant tones and crisp, peppered. 95), partners paper-thin slices of sweet. For others, however, it can be maddening, especially if you are gardening with children. The radish seeds must be dried out before taking the weight because when the seeds are first extracted, a majority of the weight is water. Pour in juice of 1 lemon, 1 tablespoon of olive oil, 1 tablespoon of cilantro and 1 tablespoon of chives. All content is posted anonymously by employees working at Radish Lab. Phil Ganter. com: https://jsonl. Entdecken Sie, wen Sie bei Radish Lab kennen, nutzen Sie Ihr berufliches Netzwerk und finden Sie in diesem Unternehmen eine Stelle. Additionally, organic As forms and factors influencing the bioaccessibility of As should be further studied to scientifically evaluate the health risks of As in radish. radish (or other) seeds (Caution -if a red coating is present, it is a fungicide - limit contact & wash afterwards) deionized water. It contains not only mitochondrial genome sequences and a comprehensive radish EST collection, but also provides sufficient information on genes that are representative of the characteristics of radish which are of use for breeding purposes. The following table contains the color conversion results of Sherwin-Williams 6861, Radish to RGB, Hex, HSL, HSV, Lab and XYZ colorspaces. Cress is a member of the Brassicaceae family, as are radishes and beetroot. For more information, visit the Food Lab website, thefoodlab. The effect of caffeine on plant growth is still a subject under study. We’re obsessed with speed and constantly time ourselves. The crop duration ranges from 40 to 45 days and hence suitable for cropping systems. In order to conduct the hands-on laboratory activities in this course, you will need to obtain the materials and lab manual listed in this document. Every seed contains a baby plant called, the embryo. To resolve this trade-off, we propose RADISH, a hybrid hardware-software dynamic race detector that is always-on and fully precise. Cat's Meow. 9 mg of vitamin C per 100g and 1. Radish Seed Lab- Chris Courtsunis 2012 CIBT Alumni Workshop High School Inquiry/Scientific Method Middle School Plants. Impact Impact This simple tweak could drastically raise our pathetic recycling rates Impact This gas station is the first in the U. Radishes come in many sizes, shapes, and colors like black, white, red, pink, green and purple. I placed a piece of paper at the bottom of each dish and found the exact center and made a mark. Analysis and Conclusions specific to the Lab: 1. Baechu, or napa cabbage, kimchi is made by lacto-fermentation, the same process. Easy 1-Click Apply (RADISH LAB) Lead Full Stack Developer [Remote] job in Brooklyn, NY. We predicted that if we use 6mg/L of a salt composition of NaCl/H2O, then the radish seeds will reach the LD50 and would not grow. 20% crude fibre. How to make crunchy pickles. Lab Report -Seed Germination Based on Temperature Factors Abstract The germination process depends on many internal and external factors that control the initiation and the germination process. [32] showed that 73,084 unigenes with a mean length of 763 nt and an N50 of 1095 nt were obtained from radish root transcriptome. outlines the correct way of performing scientific experiments in order to get unbiased and reliable results. Prior to the lab, o btain some small plant seeds. Connect with them on Dribbble; the global community for designers and creative professionals. They're also delicious sauteed with bacon and butter. The radish we left growing is still in our bed and it has many flowers on it, ready to release seeds sometime soon. #bcorp 📍Brooklyn & Berlin linkin. The roots are milky white, long (22 cm) thick 12. Using grounded coffee in garden lawns is a common practice to make plants grow faster. Traditionally, the Japanese mix the rice bran left over from polished white rice with water and salt, as well as beer and/or sake, to form a stiff paste. In a large bowl, combine lettuce, asparagus, radish and fennel, keeping a small amount of shaved vegetables for salad garnish. These irradiated radish seeds have been exposed to a Cobalt-60 source to demonstrate the effects of varying degrees of radiation on plant growth. Radishes (Raphanus sativus) are somewhat of a newcomer to the food plot menu for whitetails. Black radishes have a pungent flavor and should be used sparingly. Radishes, most of us either love ‘em or hate ‘em! If you are convinced that you do not fall in the Love ‘Em Team then maybe you should “rethink the radish”. Phil Ganter. In the Conner Lab, we have about five different experiments going, which involve looking at fitness characteristics of radish weed and evolutionary processes. This ugly. The product is still mutagenic and must not me flushed down the sink. Notes on Taxonomy and Nomenclature Top of page Raphanus raphanistrum is the universally accepted name for this common and widespread annual weed. How to make crunchy pickles. (LAB) in the initial fermentation stage, while. Radish Lab paper+digital Alina Keay February 20, 2019 nonprofit A collection of projects and one-off assignments I worked and collaborated on during my time as a junior designer at Radish Lab. The highly uneven distribution of recombination was observed across the nine radish chromosomes. Then, with Scotch Tape label one petri dish "Tap Water" and the other one "Bottled Water". The symptom of Verticillium black spot in Japanese radish (Raphanus sativus L. Great for no till food plots!. Radish Lab: Lead Full-stack Web Developer [Remote] #remotejob #frontend #backend #writing. The designed lab requires germinating radish seeds on moist paper towels that has a constant amount of water. Use a spoon to stir everything together and coat the radishes. After May 20, conference tickets are $150, or $75 for students and farmers. Brazilian Pepper - an invasive species in southern Florida, common along roadsides, that seems to outcompete native species. The OpenAI Charter describes the principles that guide us as we execute on our mission. We have actually done this experiment and have results to show you and your classmates. We will plant radish seeds in potting soil. Sprouts, Cabbage, Cauliflower, Chinese Cabbages, Collards, Mustards, Radishes, Rutabagas and Turnips) 1 J. What are synonyms for radish plant?. The pots are prepared by filling soil in 30 pots. You can plant them and experiment. Radish Lab is an award-winning creative agency focused on people and projects changing the world. If 20 ml of 100% concentrated salt water is used to create 5 samples with geometrically lower concentrations at each step through serial dilution and these samples along with a sixth sample of pure water are used to cultivate 6 groups of radish seeds, then at the end of five days, the seeds that were exposed to the lowest concentrations of salt will have been more likely to sprout and have. Since 1999 Biologic has provided deer and wildlife managers with the highest quality food plot seed blends and food plot management products. Important factors to consider include: 100% germination is. The name of Tem-Cole was derived from an experiment George tried on the radishes by putting nitrogen gas in the bag and refrigerating them. Biology Name_____ Abiotic Factors Lab Date_____ Besides the basic biologic needs such as food and sleep, organisms also depend on certain abiotic (non-living) factors for survival. 25% of salt will have the greatest root growth and germinate the most seeds because it contains enough salt to help benefit the plant, but not too much that would hinder the growth. Perfectly sweet & tangy, pickled radishes are a great pickle to have in the fridge. ) is a diploid (2n = 2x = 18) dicot and an economically important root crop cultivated in worldwide. However, coffee also contains other ingredients like potassium and phosphorous, which are known to enhance plant growth. Radishes are crisp, colorful and delicious. Not only are the roots of these cruciferous vegetables nutritious, but so are their leaves. Materials & Methods Materials: Round plastic see-through containers. Radish (Raphanus sativus L. Limited Time No Minimum Free Shipping Menu. Start studying Lab 9: Photosynthesis. You have written things down on this paper, now it is time to organize the information into a formal report. Radish leaves do best in direct sunlight but they can also flourish in partly shaded areas. Photolab : Index > Animations > Photolab. 3, Warm and enthusiastic team W e have more than 20 sales for exporting and answer your any questions and always ready to help. The company is a graduate of the Made in New York Media. We believe good design is clear, simple, and fun. A-Z Glossary & Index. EFFECTS OF ACID RAIN ON RADISH SEED GERMINATION Notes to teacher: Prior to the experiment, make up the solutions you will need. Your lab conclusion template – these are the rough drafts. They were a good, different experience to start at. Then, with Scotch Tape label one petri dish "Tap Water" and the other one "Bottled Water". General information. Ace your school projects with these 12 featured Prezi presentations and templates. 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They are rich in protein and fiber but your dog may not like it as it has a pungent spicy flavor. The production of mutations by irradiation is not a new phenomenon. Vegetable & Fruit Sources of Catalase By Cathryn Whitehead While oxygen is essential to life, using it creates harmful free radicals (chemically unstable molecules or atoms) in the body that have the potential to damage proteins, cell membranes, and even DNA structure. View our Radish Red 8 mesh Edible Glitter™ page to learn more. Comprehensive identification of key genes associated with root‐related traits is the prerequisite for exploitation in radish genetic improvement. Lab 27 Experiment 1 – Effect of pH on Radish Seed Germination WEEK 8 EXPERIMENT ANSWER SHEET Please submit to the Week 8 Experiment dropbox no later than Sunday midnight. An activity for the Foundation Years to KS2 in order to observe seed germination. 2) Count five seeds per bag or Petri dish. There was a professor in the lab where I did my PhD who was fond of saying, "the results never lie, it is up to us to explain them". Antonyms for radish plant. Find the best digital marketing agencies worldwide via DMC Agencies Directory. In each species, natural selection has resulted in evolution of seeds that germinate. Get the inside scoop on jobs, salaries, top office locations, and CEO insights. RadishBase hosts a range of radish genomics and genetics information with unrestricted public access. Luckily, it is fairly easy to prevent. Effect of different salinity levels on radish seed germination Experimental site The research work was conducted at the Molecular Horticulture Lab. Alana Range and Edward Wisniewski of Radish Lab were our very first incubator members back in October of 2013. Next, place a folded paper towel in each petri dish. ) is a diploid (2n = 2x = 18) dicot and an economically important root crop cultivated in worldwide. This year, the Golden Radish partners awarded 26 new school districts and welcomed a new partner-UGA Extension. But what I found out today is that cinnamon sugar acts like. As Chinami says, “you don’t [really] grill radishes” so the imagery really stuck. Radishes, Rutabagas and Turnips Radishes are a quick-growing, cool-season crop, that develops its best quality (small tops and well-shaped roots) when grown at 50-65°F in medium to short day lengths. The two together will be familiar as the ‘mustard and cress’ found in egg sandwiches. I’ve since updated the photographs and text. In RADISH, hardware caches a principled subset of the metadata necessary for race detection; this subset allows the vast majority of race checks to occur completely in hardware. Plant Growth Lab Report How does increased UV light affect the growth of a nasturtium seed? YOUR NAME DATE PERIOD. Apes Lab Report. Shop Fresh Trimmed Radishes - compare prices, see product info & reviews, add to shopping list, or find in store. To observe how acidic water affects the germination of seeds. Find radish seeds that are easy-to-grow with high yields of refreshingly crisp as well as pepper radishes available at Burpee seeds. Whether you need a website, app, design, or video- we want to help you get your message out there. 5% of the salt solution, then 50% of the radish seed population will die, but, the seeds germinated radicles will be much larger than those of the control group. This is the RADISH company profile. The theory of optimal foraging and its relation to central foraging was examined by using the beaver as a model. Radishes are quick-germinating, fast-growing vegetables that can give new gardeners a sense of accomplishment without taxing their patience. Want to buy meadowfoam or daikon seed extract? Check out our global sales directory for a list of where to buy our products or call us at 1-503-363-6402. But here is the picture. Ancient Greeks and Romans have also written about them. The data collected could prove the hypothesis, which stated that an increase in the concentration of salt solution would hinder the germination and radicle growth of radish seeds , to be accurate to some extent. The students used correct lab practice when handling samples of pond water. We specialize in working with nonprofits, cultural organizations, educational institutions, and social businesses. By the end of the growing season, the combination of Fusarium wilt and cabbage. Horseradish Peroxidase Streptavidin (HRP Streptavidin) is produced by our own coupling procedure which preserves the high specific activity of the peroxidase. The lab is designed to drive creative inspiration—to ensure Google’s. Founded in Brooklyn in 2012, Radish Lab is a full-service interactive creative agency focused on people and projects changing the world. Introduction This experiment is designed to test the allelopathy of two different treatments, Eucalyptus (Eucalyptus cinerea) and Lemon (Citrus limon). This report should include four detailed sections. Teachers should allow time for students to share their results and conclusions with the class by appropriate means, such as a mini-poster session or traditional lab report. In the mild Mediterranean climates of U. The AOSA Seed Vigor Testing Handbook is a good source of information on seed vigor testing. Radishes (Raphanus sativus) are somewhat of a newcomer to the food plot menu for whitetails. APES- Environmental Effects of Radiation Laboratory Activity Purpose: To see the effect of the seed irradiation on germination and plant growth Background: The irradiation of seeds may cause a sudden and well-marked change in the plant, which is called a mutation. Radishes are quick-germinating, fast-growing vegetables that can give new gardeners a sense of accomplishment without taxing their patience. 5% of the salt solution, then 50% of the radish seed population will die, but, the seeds germinated radicles will be much larger than those of the control group. They may be globe-shaped or elongated, fiery hot or mild. Container A: This represents rain collected from Hillgroth, which is acid rain with a pH of 4. Rnked uses smart data and years of experience to help you find the right providers for your next marketing project. I have always liked certain things and was perfectly happy to stay in that happy warm place. 5% salt concentration. These data suggested that boiled cooking should be recommended for consumption of As-contaminated radish because it reduces total As and its species by approximately 50%. We empower social change organizations to amplify their missions through creative collaboration, storytelling, and technology that activates their communities. As with many fermented foods, it is the action of lactic acid bacteria that leads to the dish’s distinctive taste and prolonged shelf life. Use your data to come to a conclusion about the effect of light/dark on the height of the radish plants. The independent variable of this experiment is the differing amounts of salt concentrations and the dependent variable is the amount of radish seed germination that occurs in a week. Want to buy meadowfoam or daikon seed extract? Check out our global sales directory for a list of where to buy our products or call us at 1-503-363-6402. We're doing the radish seed experiment. Now I know that doesn’t sound very radical. Low Carb & Keto Faux-tatoes (With Radishes!) Keto Faux-tatoes (With Radishes!) Simply Unreal! There’s no science behind these extraordinary low carb faux-tatoes. Photolab : Index > Animations > Photolab. Brooklyn, NY. The pots are prepared by filling soil in 30 pots. Brooklyn , New York , United States Categories Graphic Design , UX Design , Web Design , Web Development Headquarters Regions Greater New York Area , East Coast , Northeastern US Founded Date 2012 Operating Status Active Number of Employees 11-50. What prompted the use. We focus directly on working with people and projects changing the world. It is a very time consuming lab and one that should not and cannot be done in the 11th hour. At a lab meeting, Dianne Tice, my wife and longtime colleague, suggested confronting people with radishes and chocolates and telling them, "We really need you in the radish condition" to deplete. They may be globe-shaped or elongated, fiery hot or mild. Lacto-fermented preserved radishes provide superior nutritional, flavor, and health benefits. India 976 (completa edizione) MNH 1984 Cavalleria,1988 Albania Stamps. Put about 10 radish seeds into the dry microwave safe container. To resolve this trade-off, we propose RADISH, a hybrid hardware-software dynamic race detector that is always-on and fully precise. Deer eat both the green top and the radish itself. " For reference, the adult RDA for calcium is 1000mg and vitamin C is 75 mg. Three petri dishes is the first thing I needed. Buckwheat can provide good ground coverage for protecting the larger fowl like ducks, turkey and pheasant. per acre, and fertilize at a rate of 300 lbs. All content is posted anonymously by employees working at RADISH. Biology Name_____ Abiotic Factors Lab Date_____ Besides the basic biologic needs such as food and sleep, organisms also depend on certain abiotic (non-living) factors for survival. Kimchi is a popular Korean dish made from fermented Chinese cabbage and/or other ingredients like winter radish, cucumber, and scallions. oxysporum f. This creamy Cucumber Radish Salad Recipe wins on all fronts. d cellular respiration? Procedure: 1. The name of Tem-Cole was derived from an experiment George tried on the radishes by putting nitrogen gas in the bag and refrigerating them. If you haven't tried radishes before, make this your year. Included in this set: A reading passage that teaches about the Life Cycle of a Radish. Learn about & buy food plot seed for whitetail deer food plots, turkey food plots, quail food plots, ducks, dove, birds, and other wildlife food plots. Thus, there is a need to elucidate the mechanisms underlying the pathogenicity of P. Radish Lab is an interactive agency focusing on people and projects changing the world. As a class, decide how many radish (or other species) seeds should be included in each trial and how much liquid should be included with each set of seeds. I’ve since updated the photographs and text. In Exercise 4. In this laboratory exercise, a crude cell extract is prepared from potatoes. Lab 7: Ecological Interactions. That said, there is a relative lack of information about how well different cover crops perform in our region, particularly in regard to weed suppression, given our short growing season and relatively intense winters. ORAC stands for Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity and is an in vitro lab test that quantifies the antioxidant activity of foods. assignment, and lab groups can communicate through various social networking sites or by email. We usually recommend, when planting in a food plot, planting Lab Lab with forage sorghum, millet, sorghum-sudangrass or corn. and the longest wheat grass grew 5cm. Radish, also recognized as daikon in Asia, is notably very low-calorie root vegetable, holding just 16 calories per 100 g. Radish is a type of herbaceous plant that belongs to the mustard family. Dedicated to providing services across a range of platforms, Radish Lab. When a seed first absorbs water, somatic cells in the plant embryo begin to divide by mitosis and the plant begins to grow. com provides the Science Fair Project Ideas for informational purposes only. One of the most commonly used paocai vegetable, Radish (Raphanus sativus L. However, because they're small, radish seeds can challenge small children's hands. There are two main types of scientific experiments commonly used in science fair projects: The Controlled Experiment. By the end of the growing season, the combination of Fusarium wilt and cabbage. These instructions will help you create your very own eco-column in your home or classroom. We work directly with clients focused on social impact, building interactive experiences (think web or mobile apps, or embeddable interactive infographics), websites, content strategies, and pretty much anything else pixelated. Summer radishes are the small ones of bold red, pink, purple, white or red and white. You will need them so you can synthesize and hand in a summary of observations of plant growth to your TA next lab. At a lab meeting, Dianne Tice, my wife and longtime colleague, suggested confronting people with radishes and chocolates and telling them, "We really need you in the radish condition" to deplete. Sufficient water was added into the bag so that the radish shreds slide down into the brine until the surface of the uppermost shreds was covered with the brine. To study current EPA acid rain information and research. Industry: Design. Introduction This experiment is designed to test the allelopathy of two different treatments, Eucalyptus (Eucalyptus cinerea) and Lemon (Citrus limon). This feature is not available right now. This widely used root vegetable belongs to the family of Brassica. Question: What will happen if we try to grow radish seeds in windex? Hypothesis: Procedure: Count out twenty radish seeds. They are rich in protein and fiber but your dog may not like it as it has a pungent spicy flavor. Seth Mascellino, Lauren Scholle, Vincent Correia, Sara Bathory Mrs. ] "In our classroom experiment, we were able to observe the dose-response relationship of radish seeds after the seeds were given different types and doses of chemicals. It also decreased the leaf area and dry matter of wheat over the entire growing season (data are not shown). Honors Biology Radish Seed Lab Write-Up You have observed and collected data on the germination of radish seeds over two different time periods, each 5 days long. Easy 1-Click Apply (RADISH LAB) Lead Full Stack Developer [Remote] job in Brooklyn, NY. Older versions of SR and other historical food and nutrient data previously available on this site are accessible on the new Methods and Application of Food Composition Laboratory website. The result is what happened. 320 Harned Hall. Welcome to Adventures of a Radish! A new retro platformer where you explore 7 worlds. In Exercise 4. Add 20ml of water to each bag and then add 10 radish seeds to each bag. Impact Impact This simple tweak could drastically raise our pathetic recycling rates Impact This gas station is the first in the U. Food Lab Recipes Filter by categories or search for a favourite! Kingfish Crudo with Radish Salad. Dedicated to providing services across a range of platforms, Radish Lab. Brassicaceae species are characterized by four-petalled cross-shaped flowers that feature two long and two short stamens and produce podlike fruits known as siliques. RADISH was designed and developed by Illinois Tech faculty and student lab assistants as part of the Cyber Forensics and Security Laboratory (ForSec Lab). If you think I sound a little lab happy about something as mundane as a radish, let me confess to you that this year is the zenith of my adventurous eating. The region of today's Syria is likely the geographical origin of black radish. Fill the pint or half pint jars with the relish to within 1/4 to 1/2 inch of the top, seat the lid and hand-tighten the ring around them. I intend to get creative with the next batch. The inbred line of a red-colored carmine radish YZH-2x-1 was developed by the Vegetable Genetics and Breeding Lab at Guizhou University, China, by selfing propagation for two generations from a local carmine radish, commonly cultivated in Southwest area of China. Five seeds are placed in each pot according to the label on the pots. Lab Manual. 16S rRNA gene sequences obtained from the lettuce and radish shotgun libraries were found to be 50. They may be globe-shaped or elongated, fiery hot or mild. Set up the lab with four layers of paper towels inside of the petri dish and make 16 in total. of salinity on germination, growth, yield and yield attributing characters of radish. I had no idea what flavor the radishes would add to it. Record your hypothesis from Step 6 here: 2. I think that the higher the salinity, the harder it will be for the plants to extract water from the soil, causing them eventually to die. View job description, responsibilities and qualifications. Connect with them on Dribbble; the global community for designers and creative professionals. Date of Lab EFFECTS OF RADIATION ON RADISH SEEDS Introduction You need to describe what you did in this lab. You have written things down on this paper, now it is time to organize the information into a formal report. Put about 10 radish seeds into the dry microwave safe container. This suggests that a low concentration of salt in water is healthy for plant growth. Conduct a controlled experiment to test the toxicity of salt on the growth of radish. Spread the radishes on a baking sheet (you can line with foil, but I find they brown better when cooked right on the baking sheet). It is usually planted alone and it produces heavy seeds that shatter easily giving easy access for stalk feeding for smaller birds. Accessibility Help. [T]he team tried a different approach: targeting a protein called CAMP, which is used by various bacteria to kill. Say you want to test the effect of a particular fertilizer on radish plants growth. Radishes are a short season crop and should be kept growing fast for best flavor. tags, an array of page tags. Subjects with clinically-significant abnormal laboratory values, allergies or sensitivities to test product ingredients, Cruciferae plant family (including mustard, cabbage, radish), acetaminophen, or the food and beverages provided during the study, or who had used acetaminophen within 48 hrs of baseline were also excluded. Lab Report -Seed Germination Based on Temperature Factors Abstract The germination process depends on many internal and external factors that control the initiation and the germination process. Interactive Director Radish Lab March 2012 – May 2015 3 years 3 months. This is determined by measuring the average height of the 3 plants in each group and calculating the average height. We\’re interested in projects and people changing the world. Our clients are international change makers. We see that you have previously applied for a job using this system. Tem-Cole means Temperature Controlled, and was the first company to package radishes in cello bags, and a pioneer in marketing radishes without tops. We're interested in projects and people changing the world. Nutritional summary of "Radishes, raw": This food is quite low in saturated fat, is an excellent source of dietary fiber, vitamin B6, total folates, vitamin C, potassium and manganese, and is a good source of vitamin B2 (riboflavin), vitamin B5 (pantothenic acid), vitamin K, calcium, iron, phosphorus, zinc and copper. Conducting Reference Toxicity Tests with Lettuce Seeds The idea behind a reference toxicity test is that the test organism, in this case lettuce seeds, will respond in a predictable manner to varying concentrations of a particular chemical compound. Experimental variable to be tested: Hypothesis: If we add to radish seeds it will have an adverse/enhanced effect on the germination and growth of the radish seeds. Brooklyn, NY. For the microwave experiment, you will be taking groups of 10 seeds and microwaving them for different amounts of time. Plant Competition Lab. Please check your entries and try again. In a study appearing in ACS’ Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, scientists reported that compounds found in the Sakurajima Daikon, or “monster,” radish could help protect coronary blood vessels and potentially prevent heart disease and stroke. Plants that are not in the crucifer family are not susceptible. 45-60 days. Native to Asia, radishes are produced for a variety of uses but are primarily grown for food. They may be long and slender, short and stumpy or even almost spherical and can reach up to 5kg in weight. Despite its British influence and standby status in the neighborhood (hey, making it in New York over 5 years is a feat), the food leans light and contemporary, with dishes like brussels sprouts kimchi and beet carpaccio doing battle with stalwart cheeseburgers and duck fat fries. 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The fact-checkers, whose work is more and more important for those who prefer facts over lies, police the line between fact and falsehood on a day-to-day basis, and do a great job. Today, my small contribution is to pass along a very good overview that reflects on one of Trump’s favorite overarching falsehoods. Namely: Trump describes an America in which everything was going down the tubes under Obama, which is why we needed Trump to make America great again. And he claims that this project has come to fruition, with America setting records for prosperity under his leadership and guidance. “Obama bad; Trump good” is pretty much his analysis in all areas and measurement of U.S. activity, especially economically. Even if this were true, it would reflect poorly on Trump’s character, but it has the added problem of being false, a big lie made up of many small ones. Personally, I don’t assume that all economic measurements directly reflect the leadership of whoever occupies the Oval Office, nor am I smart enough to figure out what causes what in the economy. But the idea that presidents get the credit or the blame for the economy during their tenure is a political fact of life. Trump, in his adorable, immodest mendacity, not only claims credit for everything good that happens in the economy, but tells people, literally and specifically, that they have to vote for him even if they hate him, because without his guidance, their 401(k) accounts “will go down the tubes.” That would be offensive even if it were true, but it is utterly false. The stock market has been on a 10-year run of steady gains that began in 2009, the year Barack Obama was inaugurated. But why would anyone care about that? It’s only an unarguable, stubborn fact. Still, speaking of facts, there are so many measurements and indicators of how the economy is doing, that those not committed to an honest investigation can find evidence for whatever they want to believe. Trump and his most committed followers want to believe that everything was terrible under Barack Obama and great under Trump. That’s baloney. Anyone who believes that believes something false. And a series of charts and graphs published Monday in the Washington Post and explained by Economics Correspondent Heather Long provides the data that tells the tale. The details are complicated. Click through to the link above and you’ll learn much. But the overview is pretty simply this: The U.S. economy had a major meltdown in the last year of the George W. Bush presidency. Again, I’m not smart enough to know how much of this was Bush’s “fault.” But he had been in office for six years when the trouble started. So, if it’s ever reasonable to hold a president accountable for the performance of the economy, the timeline is bad for Bush. GDP growth went negative. Job growth fell sharply and then went negative. Median household income shrank. The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped by more than 5,000 points! U.S. manufacturing output plunged, as did average home values, as did average hourly wages, as did measures of consumer confidence and most other indicators of economic health. (Backup for that is contained in the Post piece I linked to above.) Barack Obama inherited that mess of falling numbers, which continued during his first year in office, 2009, as he put in place policies designed to turn it around. By 2010, Obama’s second year, pretty much all of the negative numbers had turned positive. By the time Obama was up for reelection in 2012, all of them were headed in the right direction, which is certainly among the reasons voters gave him a second term by a solid (not landslide) margin. Basically, all of those good numbers continued throughout the second Obama term. The U.S. GDP, probably the single best measure of how the economy is doing, grew by 2.9 percent in 2015, which was Obama’s seventh year in office and was the best GDP growth number since before the crash of the late Bush years. GDP growth slowed to 1.6 percent in 2016, which may have been among the indicators that supported Trump’s campaign-year argument that everything was going to hell and only he could fix it. During the first year of Trump, GDP growth grew to 2.4 percent, which is decent but not great and anyway, a reasonable person would acknowledge that — to the degree that economic performance is to the credit or blame of the president — the performance in the first year of a new president is a mixture of the old and new policies. In Trump’s second year, 2018, the GDP grew 2.9 percent, equaling Obama’s best year, and so far in 2019, the growth rate has fallen to 2.1 percent, a mediocre number and a decline for which Trump presumably accepts no responsibility and blames either Nancy Pelosi, Ilhan Omar or, if he can swing it, Barack Obama. I suppose it’s natural for a president to want to take credit for everything good that happens on his (or someday her) watch, but not the blame for anything bad. Trump is more blatant about this than most. If we judge by his bad but remarkably steady approval ratings (today, according to the average maintained by 538.com, it’s 41.9 approval/ 53.7 disapproval) the pretty-good economy is not winning him new supporters, nor is his constant exaggeration of his accomplishments costing him many old ones). I already offered it above, but the full Washington Post workup of these numbers, and commentary/explanation by economics correspondent Heather Long, are here. On a related matter, if you care about what used to be called fiscal conservatism, which is the belief that federal debt and deficit matter, here’s a New York Times analysis, based on Congressional Budget Office data, suggesting that the annual budget deficit (that’s the amount the government borrows every year reflecting that amount by which federal spending exceeds revenues) which fell steadily during the Obama years, from a peak of $1.4 trillion at the beginning of the Obama administration, to $585 billion in 2016 (Obama’s last year in office), will be back up to $960 billion this fiscal year, and back over $1 trillion in 2020. (Here’s the New York Times piece detailing those numbers.) Trump is currently floating various tax cuts for the rich and the poor that will presumably worsen those projections, if passed. As the Times piece reported:
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Everything You Need To Know About Fallout 76 Weapons
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Considering the fact that Bethesda’s E3 announcement, the studio has shown various unique gameplay trailers for Fallout 76. Amongst those gameplay clips have appeared a wide selection of distinctive weapons and firearms; in the iconic Fat Man to far more mundane pistols and rifles. When a lot of weapons are no doubt nevertheless under-wraps, this can be what we know so far about what will likely be featured in the upcoming Fallout title.
Fallout 76 Weapons
A complete list of the weapons thus far revealed by Bethesda was recently compiled on Windows Central; although most of the featured firearms aren’t new towards the series, there are actually a number of stand-out new inclusions. Needless to say, some weapons which appear inside the trailers have but to become identified.
Though there are some new weapons here, this category is far easier than most. Axes, Fire Axes, and Wrenches have all been confirmed. Additionally, farming tools like Sickles and Pitchforks will also appear.
Normal sidearms just like the 10mm Pistol and Pipe Pistol will probably be returning for the series, and that should really come as no surprise. The .44 Magnum has also been confirmed, in conjunction with the Pipe Revolver and Laser Pistol. There’s also a Single Action Revolver, and also the new Flintlock Pistol, which was made use of throughout a brief PvP skirmish in among the game’s early trailers.
The Hunting Rifle, Assault Rifle, Laser Rifle, and Gauss Rifle have all been confirmed to be returning in Fallout 76. Moreover, a new black powder rifle may also function, but quite little is identified about it at present. It may very well be equivalent to the game’s Flintlock Pistol.
Not a lot has been revealed so far about Fallout 76’s shotguns. Only the Combat Shotgun and Double-Barreled Shotgun have been confirmed so far; both staples of the series.
Most iconic among the heavy weapons category is the Fat Man, which will, certainly, be returning for Fallout 76. The Flamer, Missile Launcher, and Gatling Gun may also be back. Interestingly, the Harpoon Gun seems to have been confirmed; a weapon that was only later added to the series in Fallout 4’s Far Harbor DLC. Additionally, some form of the grenade launcher is set to appear. Grenade launchers had been absent from Fallout 4 but did appear in 3 and New Vegas.
A brand new category for Fallout 76; the game has so far confirmed the Browning M2 and what seems to be an MG42. The Browning M2 appeared in Fallout Tactics, but significant machine guns, for example, these haven’t featured in any of Bethesda’s Fallout titles till now, apart from Fallout: New Vegas. Todd Howard from Bethesda has stated that the currency used to buy cheap Fallout 76 weapons are going to be earnable in-game or purchasable from genuine money. https://www.u4gm.com/fallout-76-items
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J.J. Watt, Jose Altuve, and Carlos Beltran score big at Sports Illustrated Sportsperson of the Year Awards
Watt, Altuve score big at SI's Sportsperson of the Year Awards
Jose Altuve and JJ Watt model their Sports Illustrated covers. Photo by Slaven Vlasic/Getty Images for Sports Illustrated
Texas forever: Altuve and Watt rep the Lone Star State during the awards show. Photo by Slaven Vlasic/Getty Images for Sports Illustrated
Altuve, Watt, and Beltran score top humanitarian honors. Photo by Slaven Vlasic/Getty Images for Sports Illustrated
Native Houstonian Michael Strahan (left) joins Altuve, and host Joel McHale. Photo by Slaven Vlasic/Getty Images for Sports Illustrated
If your Friday plans are centered around TV and chill (literally, as it may freeze), we suggest you tune into NBCSN, as Houston will be the MVP of the 2017 Sportsperson of the Year Award Show.
As seen all over social media this week, J.J. Watt of the Houston Texans, and José Altuve of the World Series Champion Houston Astros, are both 2017 Sportsperson of the Year recipients. (Cool local angle: Houston men’s style house Festari dressed and styled Altuve for the SI cover.)
You can expect some serious Htown love when Houston native (and NFL great) Michael Strahan presents the award to the two local legends, with a speech recognizing their contributions to the Houston community.
With his trademark humility, Watt credits first responders and citizens in his acceptance speech: “I don’t think I could accept this award without mentioning the 200,000 people who donated to the fund…without mentioning all the firefighters and policeman, and all the people who got their own boats and went out in the streets to help save people. This award is about humans being good to help other humans and I think it’s incredible,” he says. For a refresher, Watt’s total donations topped $37 million.
Fresh off his retirement announcement, Astros star Carlos Beltran has been given the first-ever Hope Award from SI for using his platform to help Puerto Rico rebuild after Hurricane Maria.
“As a Puerto Rican, I’m extremely proud to be from the Island that has given me so much support throughout my 20-year career in baseball,” Beltran says. Beyoncé even makes an appearance — furthering the Htown dominance — as she and Daily Show host Trevor Noah present Colin Kaepernick with the SI Muhammad Ali Legacy Award.
But who are we kidding? It’s all about Justin James, and Altuve.
The Sports Illustrated 2017 Sportsperson of the Year Award Show will first air nationally on NBCSN at 7 pm, Friday, December 8. NBCSN will air an encore presentation of Sports Illustrated’s Sportsperson of the Year at 9 pm, Sunday, December 10; and 10:30 pm, Tuesday, December 12.
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Buffalo, NY- The Goo Goo Dolls will headline a concert to benefit the Canisius College Institute for Autism Research (IAR) on Saturday, April 16 in Buffalo State’s Performing Arts Center at Rockwell Hall. The sold-out concert, Artists for Autism, will include performances by Mary Ramsey of 10,000 Maniacs and singer-songwriter Cassandra Kubinski.
The concert is the vision of famed music producer Armand Petri, whose credits include work with the Goo Goo Dolls, 10,000 Maniacs and Sixpence None the Richer. Petri’s son, AJ, is autistic and participated in one of the IAR’s programs. After seeing great improvement in his son’s social and communication skills, Petri wanted to help create greater awareness for this community resource.
In addition to the Artists for Autism concert, proceeds from CD sales and downloads of Kubinski’s newly-recorded single “Not So Different,” will benefit the IAR. “Not So Different” will be available on iTunes and Google Play beginning April 15.
The “Not So Different” CD will also be available for purchase on April 16 during Record Store Day at Record Theater in Buffalo. Rzeznik, Ramsey and Kubinski will be available to sign autographs.
After hearing Kubinski’s song, “Not So Different,” Petri thought it would provide a tuneful vehicle to shine a light on the need for additional autism research. Petri reached out to close friends to record a new version of the song. John Rzeznik, of the Goo Goo Dolls, offered his full support. Similarly, Mary Ramsey of John and Mary and 10,000 Maniacs fame, quickly agreed to lend her voice. Along with Kubinski, the three performers recorded a new version of “Not So Different.”
The events are in collaboration with the Music Industry Program at the State University of New York at Fredonia.
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13 Observations From the D-League Showcase
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by Zach Lowe
Some random news and notes after a few days on the West Coast — first in Santa Cruz for the D-League Showcase, and then in Los Angeles to tape The Grantland Basketball Hour:
1. The Larry Sanders situation is the talk of the league right now.
This is a worst-case scenario for any team that bets big on a talented young player with major personal issues. The league suspended Sanders a minimum of 10 games, and he will likely miss more than that — possibly many more — as he works through the league’s treatment program.
It’s unclear exactly how much the Bucks knew about Sanders’s marijuana issues when they signed him to a four-year, $44 million extension in August 2013. This is Sanders’s fourth violation of the league’s drug testing rules; players don’t face any suspension until violation no. 3. That came toward the end of last season, when Sanders served the mandatory five-game suspension. Teams generally aren’t notified about any drug violations until a player is suspended, meaning the Bucks might not have received any formal notice of Sanders’s first two violations. That does not absolve the Bucks from doing background work on their own player.
Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo reported over the weekend that the Bucks had not yet discussed a potential buyout with Sanders, but most league sources expect the discussion to eventually go that direction. It’s tempting to suggest the Bucks ride this out for a bit. Sanders is one of the league’s best rim protectors. His development on offense has stalled out, but he has some potential on that end as a Tyson Chandler Lite — a guy who screens, dives to the rim, and sucks help defenders in from the perimeter. He needs time (and possibly a hand transplant) to approach even 60 percent of Chandler’s value on offense, but his contract is fair in basketball terms.
Milwaukee has a clean cap sheet going forward and no plans to rush its rebuild with a mega–free agency signing. Is the savings it might net in a buyout, plus lifting the Sanders pall from the locker room, worth the risk he might eventually thrive on another team? Maybe it is. The situation may well be worse than we realize.
2. The Showcase itself is a fun event, though not as fun as it might have been.
The D-League had planned to partner with Zebra Technologies to install tracking devices inside the jersey of every player during the event. The devices pump out cool motion-tracking data fast enough for real-time use on television, but Zebra and the league couldn’t quite get everything up and running by go time in Santa Cruz. Oh well.
The D-League announced about a year ago that four of its teams would wear a different sort of motion-tracking device during games — the Catapult product that monitors heart rate, accelerations, and other health-related data. Only one team, the Fort Wayne Mad Ants, currently outfits all of its roster players with the Catapult monitors. It is not a coincidence Fort Wayne is the only D-League team without a one-to-one NBA parent club; 13 NBA teams share the Mad Ants. Parent clubs with direct control of a single D-League team have been less interested in Catapult, since all recorded information goes into a shared database all NBA teams can access.
3. The Showcase ended with a single-elimination tournament.
The NBA has floated the idea of its own midseason tournament, and it’s probably not a coincidence it tried out a similar format at this season’s Showcase.
4. The aborted Brook Lopez trade hijacked the Showcase on Thursday night.
Everyone was buzzing about it. The Thunder under Sam Presti have long had an affection for Lopez; one former Thunder official revealed to me two years ago that the franchise thought seriously about drafting Lopez over Russell Westbrook in 2008. The Thunder were on the verge of acquiring Lopez at a super-cheap price — something like Jeremy Lamb, Grant Jerrett, and Kendrick Perkins’s expiring contract — until the Nets wisely pulled back to further test the market. I’d expect the Thunder to inquire on Lopez again soon.
There were loud debates at the Showcase on Thursday and Friday about whether Lopez would fit in Oklahoma City. The detractors claimed Lopez was a slowpoke who would hold back the Thunder’s transition attack, clog the lane on offense, and demand back-to-the-basket post-ups that would siphon possessions away from Westbrook and Kevin Durant. Lopez has a scary history of foot and back issues; one more broken foot could have a catastrophic impact on his career.
All fair points. But the Thunder aren’t getting much better than Lopez for the pu pu platter they offered up, and they already traded one first-round pick for Dion Waiters. The Thunder could have gotten one solid player — Jeff Green, Arron Afflalo, or some 3-and-D wing type — with the combination of Perkins’s expiring and a future first-round pick, and there is something to be said for turning that same combination of assets into two players.
Lopez can be a lane-clogger on offense, but Steven Adams and Perkins are already doing that for damn near 48 minutes per game between them. If you’re going to muck up driving lanes, you might as well do it with a big man who can actually score.
The risk would be minimal if Scott Brooks used Lopez off the bench, where he’d be a massive upgrade over Perkins and whatever remains of Nick Collison. He could work as the fulcrum of bench-heavy units that might grow too dependent on Waiters and Reggie Jackson, though Brooks over the last few games has done a better job keeping either Durant or Westbrook on the floor at nearly all times.
Lopez has the versatility on offense to slide into the Thunder’s crunch-time lineup alongside Serge Ibaka — at least in games when Brooks doesn’t feel comfortable finishing with Durant at power forward in small-ball lineups. Lopez has gravitated more toward the perimeter this season, and he has hit a tidy 44 percent of his long 2-point jumpers — mostly on pick-and-pops and spot-up chances. He hit 55 percent from that range last season, per Basketball-Reference, before suffering another broken foot.
Lopez could actually help the Thunder’s spacing in some lineups. Oklahoma City is going to have trouble playing Adams and Andre Roberson, which is a problem, since they’re both starting now. We’ve seen this movie in the playoffs with Perkins and Thabo Sefolosha, only Roberson, a nice kid and tenacious defender, makes Sefolosha look like Kyle Korver. Slide Lopez into some of those minutes, and Roberson is suddenly playable again
When Lopez is healthy, he’s a smart cutter away from the ball. He can skulk around the baseline, wait for a slasher to break down the defense, and then flash into open space around the hoop for easy buckets. He can be a dump-off guy for Westbrook and Durant. And for all of his faults as a defender and rebounder, Lopez is a legitimate obstacle when he’s standing near the basket as a last line of defense. He can’t jump, but he’s huge, and teams haven’t shot all that well on close shots when Lopez is near the rim, per SportVU data.
He wouldn’t be the cleanest fit. Neither is Waiters, despite his hot-ish start for the Thunder. But the cleanest fits aren’t always available.
5. Any deal for Lopez would raise tax issues — both past and present.
It would make us revisit the James Harden trade, since the Thunder would be rocketing themselves into the tax for a vastly inferior player — and flipping Perkins, the guy they wouldn’t amnesty, to make the deal work. Lopez has a $16.7 million player option for next season, and most league executives expect him to exercise it, barring a major surge over the second half of the season.
Adding that to the Thunder’s books would take their payroll into the $85 million range for next season, about $4 million above the projected tax. That doesn’t include any salary for Jackson, a restricted free agent this summer. Any deal for a Lopezian salary in 2015-16 would likely clinch Jackson’s departure from Oklahoma City — if that ship hasn’t already sailed.
6. The Celtics have a gazillion trade exceptions of varying sizes.
After their flurry of deals over the last two weeks, the Celtics could absorb some extra salaries from teams looking to shed money or work complex trades. (Credit to Marc Stein, who rattled off Boston’s precise trade exception information when I bumped into him Thursday in Santa Cruz. Few people enjoy trade exception minutiae as much as Steiny.)
Boston has been calling around the league over the last week, reminding GMs that Philly isn’t the only team with salary space to rent out as we approach the February 19 trade deadline.
7. Speaking of the trade deadline: Don’t be shocked if there is some discussion about moving it up by a least a week or two.
As Kevin Pelton noted, we’re on a record pace for pre-February trades. The perception that the championship race is wide open explains some of that urgency, but there is a sense that more team executives would prefer to get major in-season moves done earlier. Acting at the trade deadline leaves only 25 games or so to integrate a key new player.
There’s a flip side, of course: A later trade deadline gives teams more time to see how good they really are, and to identify themselves more comfortably as “buyers” or “sellers.” There’s no right answer, but some executives have already pitched an earlier trade deadline in informal discussions with league officials.
8. There were some laments at the Showcase about how many quality players had left the D-League this season, or passed on it entirely, to chase more lucrative deals in Europe.
This is not a new issue. Top players in the D-League earn only about $25,000 per season, much less than even a marginal NBA prospect can make overseas. I wonder if the league and players’ union could sit down and bargain on this one issue between now and 2017, when either side can opt out of the collective bargaining agreement and start renegotiating the whole damn thing.
9. Look for the Bucks to snag a backup point guard.
After waiving Nate Wolters and then watching Kendall Marshall suffer a torn ACL, the Bucks are a team in need. What a tough break for Marshall, who was beginning to find an NBA niche after flaming out as a lottery pick in Phoenix. Jason Kidd had Marshall posting up now and then, and it was actually working as a vehicle to draw help and create shots for other players.
10. We may be getting more summer ball.
In November, Jeff Zilgitt of USA Today reported that officials from the Jazz and the league office were pushing to revive the old Rocky Mountain Revue summer basketball league in Utah — perhaps as early as this coming summer. The push has continued since, and several sources at the Showcase said the league appears on track to host a four- or six-team summer league in Utah this year. An announcement could come soon.
11. Stein reported that the Suns had made Miles Plumlee available for trade.
That was indeed a topic of at least mild interest in Santa Cruz. The Suns want a first-rounder for him, per Stein, and there is major skepticism about whether any team would meet that price.
12. This could be random, but nearly a half-dozen executives from different teams mentioned the possibility of the Spurs luring LaMarcus Aldridge in free agency with a max contract.
Let me be clear, my beloved Portland maniacs: I do not see this happening. Repeat: I do not see this happening. Aldridge isn’t the type to say stuff lightly, so it meant a lot — to everyone — when he declared so emphatically in July that he would sign a new five-year contract this summer and hopefully go down as the “best Blazer ever.”
It’s always wise to take sunny public comments about free agency with a pile of salt, but Aldridge is a bit of a different cat in this regard. Still: I found it interesting that after having heard very little San Antonio/Aldridge talk of any kind, ever, a bunch of unconnected higher-ups suddenly started mentioning it over the last two weeks. Someone said something to start the rumor mill churning, and the Blazers have always considered one of Aldridge’s home-state Texas teams the biggest threat to snag him away.
San Antonio waited on a Kawhi Leonard extension precisely to hoard max cap space this summer in case both Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili retire. Dallas could have max-level space, though it’d have to renounce several very good free agents to get it. Houston would need to cut some salary, but it also has the goods to put together a solid sign-and-trade offer if Aldridge makes it known he’d prefer to go there.
This is probably much ado about very little. Aldridge is in a wonderful spot as the co-centerpiece of a top team, with a superstar point guard, a smart coach/GM combo, and a nucleus of prime-age veterans — most of whom are also free agents the Blazers could re-sign this summer via Bird rights. Portland can offer him one more year and about $30 million more than any other suitor.
13. There was, of course, lots of talk about the Hawks.
The discussions especially are about whether they provide any team-building lessons for the rest of the league. The Hawks have reaffirmed the importance of ball movement, unselfishness, and shooting in a league where zone defense is legal and handchecking isn’t. But we already knew that stuff.
It has long been said that free agency below the star level is an inefficient market — that teams end up overpaying for players on the wrong side of the aging curve. There is a lot of evidence that is true. But some executives see the Hawks as proof that there are smart deals to be had in sub-star free agency if you know what players fit your culture.
Perhaps. Atlanta snagged Paul Millsap, Kyle Korver, DeMarre Carroll, Mike Scott, Pero Antic, and other free agents on what now look like bargain deals. But they also drafted Al Horford at no. 3 and chased Chris Paul, Dwight Howard, Carmelo Anthony, and LeBron James in free agency — or at least positioned themselves in hopes of doing so — at various times over the last three years. Coming away without a superstar and building this particular team was not Plan A. Nailing free agency below the superstar stratosphere requires its own brand of luck — good timing amid chaos, the interest or noninterest of rival teams, the order in which other dominoes fall, and the gamble of injury- and character-related risks. You can only plan so much. Millsap’s two-year, $19 million deal seemed wacky when he signed it, and it seems even wackier now.
Regardless: Atlanta is the toast of the league right now. What a story.
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Opening speech Imatra ISI Summer congresses, Finland, June 5, 2011
Eero Tarasti:
It is a particular joy and honour for me to wish you all welcome to our traditional gathering in Imatra, in fact at our 26th International Summer School for Semiotic and Structural Studies.
For most of you this is not your first time to be here, but, sure, someone has never been here earlier.
Anyway, the history of these summer congresses is rather long, indeed. Frankly said, thinking of what all has happened in general in semiotics and in cultural and academic life in Finland and abroad, it is a small miracle that the ISI continues with perseverance, energy and goal-directedness.
We should say like the Romans in the antiquity: Perfer et obdura, labor hic tibi proderit olim. Or like the Rector of Indiana University, Bloomington in the day of commencement, at the times of Tom Sebeok: Follow your passion, and furnish your mind. We are all convinced that it is this passion for semiotics which has brought us here!
If I said ‘goal’ you may with full reason ask: which goal? What are we semioticians aiming for, what is our aspiration? Is it an effort to semiotize the whole world? Is it a crusade of believers to conquer the entire globe? Is it an intellectual adventure and experiment? Is it a project to improve the world? Is it a program to unify the science? Is it a prospect for education of young people, to make them capable to analyze the globalized world in which we live? Is it a guideline for better career expectations, economic prosperity…and even equality? Is it a language of international scholarship, as it was said as early as thirty years ago?
Certainly there is no one right answer, semiotics continues to challenge younger and older scholars in all countries and continents nowadays. Although by its theoretical objectives it wishes to be ‘universal’ – I say this although the term ‘universal’ may already irritate someone – in every context there are certainly also local, national and particular reasons for adopting it. The success of semiotics is perhaps based on the following facts: it is really a theory and discourse about the contemporary actual world and its problems, that means the world of communication and signification. When exploring the actuality of the world all the time new trends, not to say ‘fashions’, emerge within it, so semiotics has to renew its vocabulary and arsenal continuously. Yet, on the other hand it is keeping touch with its classical heritage. Therefore to study semiotics means to get familiar with its roots in the history of science. Insofar this tradition of thought appears in a certain language it forces us to translate the classics so that they are available for all cultures and communities.
Moreover, it means that always new approaches, methods and concepts have to be forged and elaborated. One should not be afraid of using ‘difficult’ abstract concepts since at the end the most abstract theory can prove to be the most practical one. If there is an emansipatory function and task of semiotics so to say ‘improve’ the world, it is possible only from a deep conceptual analysis. Semiotics is not an easy way to success in the so called’ innovation’ science which is the fashionable and very unfortunate term of contemporary science policy everywhere – and as we know leading to disastrous results as well. Science is slow and tedious, never fast and immediate. If it were that it were probably not science in the true sense, but a kind of exploitation of science for shortsighted practical goals.
If I would make a list of problems and threats of semiotics and for semioticians, it would be as follows:
1) science policies, budgeting, education in general, particularly in the EU, where the only goal is to train young as quickly as possible and with as little costs as possible to certain professions and jobs. What was called by the German, untranslatable term ‘Bildung’ (human development?) seems to be forgotten.
2) In this canonic doctrine of the commercialized world semiotics is seen as a harmful factor, disturbing with its intellectual criticism
3) semioticians have isolated themselves within their own discourse, no longer understood by general public. This view is further nourished by the fact that media has turned its back to semiotics – except the big media stars of it à la Umberto Eco.
4) due to these facts, albeit semioticians graduate from many universities, MA:s and PhD:s in semiotics have difficulties to establish themselves in the academic and work life
5) semiotics itself is split into various schools and groupings which do not communicate with each other; such a ‘cold war’ among its representatives diminishes its authority seen from outside and makes it difficult to join the forces for shared goals.
However, all these aspects can be also turned into positive ones. My colleague from Edinburgh Raymond Monelle once gave a speech entitled: “Semiotics does not threaten anyone.”
Semiotics never dies. If the conditions in the public academic life turn unbearable, it goes underground. For such movements modern technology has provided a lot of support and help via facebook and other connections. Can semiotics be a radical science intervening the problems of actual, real life? Yes, to my mind. I just read in facebook a blog maintained by the indignant young Spanish students at their demonstrations. There were fifty entries with the word ‘semiotica’, the analysis of the political situation was just based on semiotic principles. We can only imagine what role semiotics can have in future in many countries now under crises and quick transformations and fights for the freedom. When the Finnish Foreign Ministry supported this event quite remarkably we had to reason and base our application on principles they want to favour: human and civil rights, gender equality, democracy, security, ecology etc. It is true that semiotics can have a lot of pragmatic value for many problems.
We have to note that in Finland President Martti Ahtisaari, the Nobel Peace Prize winner two years ago, has always supported semiotics; and his spouse Eva, whom we just met at a coffee party in Helsinki, has often attended our semiotic events in Imatra. I do not want to steal anyone’s word but I would quote here the words by our colleague, semiotician and just nominated Professor of Translation at Helsinki University, Pirjo Kukkonen, who said that “semiotics is science of hope”. About hope we shall certainly hear even more from Professor Arno Munster, a specialist of Ernst Bloch and his Prinzip Hoffnung.
In fact, many of the sessions and roundtables of our summer school here are, answers to the problems hitherto mentioned. Thanks to our Ministry we have here eminent scholars from Latin America, Cameroun, India and Iran. Moreover China is present, with a delegation sent here by Nanjing Normal University to plan the next world congress of semiotics by the IASS in October of 2012. We wish you warmly welcome!
In spite of the critical comments above concerning the present globalized civilization, we have to be reasonable; at the same time we also have to live in this world and under its conditions. I find it legitimate to utilize and exploit its structures for semioticians so that they get foothold in most diverse positions in the contemporary society. Only by this means semiotics can become influential in the society. It is in this sense we have a section on How One Becomes A Semiotician – which of course for a Lévi-Straussian anthropologist sounds an echo from the chapter Comment devient on ethnologue from Tristes tropiques. The EU is funding a project which endeavours to create a Paneuropean doctoral program in semiotics, a program which should avoid mistakes of some previous experiments in the field, namely that it takes into account the so called labour market orientation. So there is in the studies themselves already anticipations of future jobs. This pilot project is managed by the Lapland University, Rovaniemi, and its partners are Tartu, Turin and New Bulgarian Universities from Estonia, Italy and Bulgaria. It should be ready in 2012; thereafter any European university can join it.
Other themes are Interrelationships of Arts. The utility of semiotics appears often just when by it one finds new connections among familiar fields and phenomena. It is a heuristic method in this respect. Furthermore, the topics of authenticity and inauthenticity approaches the categories of Nature and Culture in Tropics and Arctics, in two different surroundings with applications to tourism and other issues of high social value. There are plans to extend this topics in the Arctic region to cover what can be called ‘arctic identity’ which transgresses all the conventional borderlines among Russia, Finland, United States, Canada, Norway Sweden, and Iceland.
One of the most expected sessions will be the semiotics of corporeality. Body inevitably is the center of all our semiotic activities and processes, be they biosemiotical or aesthetic or psychological. We are grateful to Professor José Enrique Finol for organizing this. And a tradition of its own is already formed by semiotics of translation. If all is said to be communication, we could as well argue that all is translation.
This is the official part of the symposium, In the side of all this many other things happen: we have many Board meetings of different societies and communities, the Finnish semiotic society, has its annual meeting, the ISI Board as well, a part of IASS Board convenes unofficially. Books in the exhibition at State Hotel are mostly from the semiotic collection of City Library of Imatra which has been built during these 25 years. Also books published at our series Acta semiotica fennica are available there.
However, you may guess, that to maintain such a tradition as Imatra ISI, is not always quite an easy task. We are all the time grateful to the City of Imatra, that it serves as our host here in this fabulous and already legendary town of semiotics. The Mayor of the town, Pertti Lintunen will join us on Tuesday to tell the prospects of people living in Imatra; today we shall hear greetings by the great friend of semiotics, emeritus Mayor Tauno Moilanen.
Among the institutions to be thanked I add here the private Niilo Helander Foundation who supported our event again.
With these words and in the atmosphere of hope and optimism, and hilarious expectation of these rich, forthcoming days, I wish you all welcome once again to Finland and Imatra.
Eero Tarasti
Professor (University of Helsinki), Director of the ISI, President of the IASS/AIS
New semiotic journal – SIGNATA – Université de Liège Final Program: 26th International Summer School for Semiotic and Structural Studies – Imatra
Reply June 04, 2011 / 5:10 pm
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Two-disc NOW compilation full of recycled holiday goodies and re-recycled leftovers
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Aside from the underwhelming playlist of re-repeats, people usually gravitate to the NOW series to hear the newer material. And there’s a good list to play with: Rihanna contributes a reggae drum n’ bass take on “A Child Is Born,” Sheryl Crow swings through Otis Redding’s holiday gem, “Merry Christmas, Baby” with the gusto of a Stax diva and Lady Gaga kicks up the electro-club naughty, but nice “Christmas Tree” and Maroon 5– with frontman Adam Levine serenading the verses – offers up an intimate and acoustic take on John Lennon’s “Happy Christmas (War Is Over).” For those that who frequently scurry the Web for the latest work on their favorite artists, they won’t be totally surprised by Maroon 5 and Gaga’s offerings, since they were previously released as digital singles in 2009. Add in the fact that the first disc packs in a heap of country acts than usual (Carrie Underwood, Martina McBride, Toby Keith, Faith Hill, Darius Rucker, Vince Gill) as if they missed last year’s 14-track and fairly decent NOW…Country Christmas compilation. And then there’s an unforgivable half-baked urban take on McCartney’s “Wonderful Christmastime” by Kelly Rowland. Even with all the good points of Now…Christmas 4, its flaws pretty much outweigh the good.
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Attacks Cause Serious Damage to Internet Connection in Iran
Plagiarist Paganini
(Translated from the Original Italian)
High tension in the cyberspace, recently a series of attacks have hit oil companies and also banking and Iran was blamed for most of them. This time the scenario appears overturned, according a news published a huge cyber attack have targeted Iranian infrastructure and communications companies, causing serious damages to Internet connections.
A state official declared that internet was destroyed inside the country on Wednesday. When Iran is hit by a cyber attack there are few doubts, the probability that the offensive has been conducted by state-sponsored hackers is really high.
The tensions with Western and especially with Israel give further motivation to a possible attacks of those countries against the historical enemy.
Secretary of the High Council of Cyberspace, Mehdi Akhavan Behabadi announced to Iranian Labour News Agency:
“Yesterday we had a heavy attack against the country’s infrastructure and communications companies which has forced us to limit the Internet,”
“Presently we have constant cyber attacks in the country. Yesterday an attack with a traffic of several gigabytes hit the Internet infrastructure, which caused an unwanted slowness in the country’s Internet,”
“All of these attacks have been organised. And they have in mind the country’s nuclear, oil, and information networks.”
The statements stress the concept that behind the attack there is an hostile and foreign government, the offensive is directed against critical infrastructures of the country such as telecommunications, energy sector and nuclear facilities.
It's too simple to think to Israel as responsible after the recent discussion to the UN of the prime minister Netanyahu, but it must be considered that Iran represents a serious menace for many Western countries. It's policy could destabilize a critical area and could trigger a dangerous economic crisis in case of conflict.
Iran is the forth producer of oil of the world and one of the main suppliers for China, due this reason a conflict could create a diplomatic incident with those countries that don't want a military action against Teheran.
Warfare experts believe that in case of attack against Iran, the offensive must be really short to avoid the intensification of contrasts in the area, in this optical a series of cyber attacks could seriously damage the country opening the door to a conventional strike.
In this phase the use of anonymous cyber operations could avoid the judgment of international community .
Iran is aware of the potential effect of a cyber attack, it is one of the countries that major is investing in the development of new cyber technologies, it's is creating new cyber units, promoting patriot hacking groups and developing internal defense systems.
After that the international community banned the sale of antivirus and similar security application to Teheran, the government decided to create its own antivirus software.
The Iran is also trying to move all the resources and hosting inside the country, in a protected network, to avoid cyber offensive in fact the government has decided to deploy an internal network, isolated from outside, to guarantee interconnections also in case of attack. According cyber specialists the network will be completed within next year.
Few weeks ago a commander in Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guards declared that the Government is prepared for a “cyber war” and it is conscious that damages related to a cyber attack could be more dangerous than a conventional offensive.
Is it sufficient an internal network to save Iran from a cyber attack?
Absolutely no, and the Government knows this, an attack from inside could harm the entire infrastructure, for this reason the authorities are also maintaining an impressive level of monitoring of internet access. Iran is blocking access to tens of thousands of websites because it considers them immoral or because they express anti-government views.
The social media are dangerous, the Arab spring has demonstrated it, so sites such as Facebook and YouTube are banned and intermittently also services such as Google. The tension inside the country is increasing, world wide community often ignores that Iran is also made by people like us that desire freedom for their children, but in place like that Iran it's hard to live.
Looking data on Tor usage it could be possible to note that Iran is in the top ten list of countries for use of Tor Network, just after U.S. and the data on directed connected users and connections through bridges give us indication of an ongoing filtering of internet.
What to expect in the short term?
Difficult to predict, I would say impossible, surely we will observe an intensification of attacks against the country, but also offensive by state-sponsored hackers against institutions, governments and enterprises enemies of Teheran.
Mike Wiacek, a manager on Google’s information security team, declared to the NYT his company has pushing out new alert on the increasing of state-sponsored attacks from China but also from Middle Eastern countries.
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Muslims in Western countries are allowed to rent Churches for Friday or Eid prayers if no other place is available. But they have to make sure that statues are covered and the place is cleaned from any impurities.
· Prayer in a church.
· Renting a non-Muslim place of worship for prayer.
The high prices of built accommodation and building land in Western countries often make it difficult for a local Muslim community to have its own mosque. They may be forced to have a small place for worship, but such a place cannot accommodate the worshippers for Friday and Eid prayers. A church may be available for rent at a reasonable rate. Is it permissible to use it for prayer?
It is permissible to rent churches and other places to hold prayers, provided that the following is avoided:
1. Praying where statues are placed. If they happen to be there and in the direction of the qiblah, then they should be covered.
2. Praying in a place where there is physical impurity.
This is included in the decision taken by the International Islamic Fiqh Academy’s third conference, held in Amman, Jordan from 8–13 Safar 1407 AH, corresponding to 11–16 October 1986. The decision was in reply to questions received from the International Institute of Islamic Thought in Washington.
The Academy stated in its ruling that ‘it is permissible to rent a church for prayer when necessary. Praying facing statues and pictures should be avoided. These must be covered if they are placed in the direction Muslims face in prayer.
The Permanent Committee for Research and Fatwa in Saudi Arabia also issued a fatwa, No. 9,118, permitting prayer in a rented church, provided that there is no other place available. The Committee said: ‘If a different place is available for prayer, then praying in a church or temple is not permissible because these are the worship places of unbelievers where beings other than God are worshipped and because they contain statues and shaped pictures.
If no other place is available, then the case is one of necessity and prayer in such places becomes permissible.’ [Umar said to the priest: ‘We do not come into your churches because of what is in them of statues and shaped pictures. Ibn [Abbas used to pray in churches except those where there are statues and shaped pictures.’ (Related by al-Bukhari, subheading: prayer in a church)
· Fatawa by the International Islamic Fiqh Academy at its third conference.
· Fatawa by the Permanent Committee for Research and Fatwa in Saudi Arabia, collated and edited by Ahmad ibn Abd al-Razzaq al-Duwaish.
How Should Two People Praying Together Stand In Salah?
Pronouncing the Intention for the Prayer
Can I Pray Sunnah Prayer (Tahiyatul Masjid) Just Before Maghrib?
Offering Two Prayers Together Due to Study or Work Requirements or Time Overlap
by: The Centre of Research Excellence in Contemporary Fiqh Issues
Multiple Congregations in the Same Mosque because of Limited Space
The Prayer for Rain
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PHD RESEARCH IN THE SCHOOL
THE INDIVIDUAL TRAINING PROGRAMME
CURRENT PHD RESEARCH
From policy to law? Industrial policy under European Union law
PhD student: Dr P. Jansen
Promotor: Prof W. Devroe
Duration: 1/11/2013 - 31/10/2017
PhD defence: Leuven, 15/1/2018
Recent years have shown a revival of interest in industrial policy in the European Union (EU), as appears from the many EU and Member States\' policy documents, academic literature and public comment. However, the resulting picture is fragmented an largely non-legal. The lack of analysis can be problematic, e.g. in terms of enforcement. The aim of this research project is to provide for the first time a comprehensive insight into the EU's legal acquis in the area of industrial policy. This will be done by (a) identifying and analysing the norms that apply in the various sub-domains that together constitute "industrial policy", (b) examining the division of competences between the supranational and the national level in respect of these sub-domains, (c) exploring whether certain constants or lines appear that could constitute an embryo of an EU "industrial policy law"; and (d) conducting a comparative legal study involving other, selected, industrial powers.
PhD Projects by Programme
Ius Commune and Private Law
Contract Law and Law of Obligations in General
Liability and Insurance
Transnational Environmental Law
Legal Persons in Europe
Fiscal Problems in the Internal Market
Foundations and Principles of Civil Procedure in Europe
Constitutional Processes: The Interaction between the National and the European Dimension
Judicial Protection and Law Enforcement: the Interaction between the National and European Dimension
Integration, Differentiation and Flexibility: New Perspectives on EU Law and Policy
Constitutional Processes in the Global Legal Order
Ius Commune and Public Law
The Ius Commune Research School unites legal scholars of the Katholieke Universiteit Leuven, Maastricht University, the University of Utrecht and the University of Amsterdam. The Maastrichts Institute for Transnational Legal Reserach (METRO) hosts the secretariat of the School. © 1996-2020 Ius Commune Research School
Remarks, inqueiries and suggestions are most welcome at marjo.mullers@maastrichtuniversity.nl
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Strong Bear Dawson
Review – Shell Shock
Shell Shock is a story with strong themes.
NOTE: If rape is a trigger for you, you may want to stop reading right now.
Shell Shock Background
In response to a prompt about crimes, I decided to forego murder and instead concentrate on the equally nasty crime of rape.
Hence, at the conclusion of the Earth-Romulan War, Star Trek: Enterprise canon character Malcolm and the remainder of the crew of the NX-01 are back on Earth. While seeking to forget a horrible incident with a dying crewman, Reed seeks solace by going to the 602 Club. While there, he sees the waitress-turned-proprietress, Ruby Brannagh.
Brigid Brannagh as Ruby Brannagh
Malcolm leaves early, but not before he sees some fellow crew members, plus an unfamiliar military fellow (this turns out to be Jay Hayes‘s replacement, Bud Dawson) and some protesters from Earth.
However, the next day, he is woken up by a knock on the door of his temporary quarters at Starfleet Headquarters. There’s been a crime committed. And he and other men are to report to the mess hall.
Slowly, suspects are ruled out, as male crew members from the Enterprise and the Columbia present adequate alibis. Or the forensic evidence rules them out.
Franz Kafka’s The Trial
Frank Todd presents proof that he was at a gay bar. And others are eventually eliminated. However, one of the last persons to stand accused is Malcolm, although Dan Chang is also in the final list. And so is a Columbia crewman, Josef Kastle. Kastle is a direct reference to the author Franz Kafka, who wrote The Trial.
Malcolm’s lawyer, Dash Nolan, works hard to get him off the suspect list. And Malcolm is humiliated and forced to dredge up embarrassing personal details, including about his relationship with Pamela Hudson. The story also sets up Saturn Rise as a way for him to heal from not only this experience, but also the experience of seeing a crewman suffer and die during the war.
But of course it’s the gravely injured Ruby who’s got it far worse.
While there isn’t really a theme song for this story, I thought of New Orders’s Shell Shock quite a bit as I was writing it.
Shell Shock original posting
Shell Shock on Fanfiction.net
In addition, Shell Shock on Fictionpad
and Shell Shock on the G & T Show Forums
Shell Shock on Wattpad
Shell Shock in context
The story is Rated T/M.
So beyond covering Malcolm and Ruby’s very different species of distress, the story also serves to convey the horrors of an accusation of rape. And even the innocent don’t come out of the experience unscathed.
Posted by jespah in In Between Days series, Review, 22 comments
Review – On the Radio
Radio. It can bring back a memory in a snap.
On the Radio Background
A friend passed away earlier in 2013, and I was having some trouble processing it. I decided to attempt to process it through art.
As a result, I worked in my own feelings by trying to tease out Hoshi and T’Pol‘s feelings about Tripp‘s passing.
And, the reason why I call this canon character Tripp instead of Trip is because of this very man who, in real life, is no more.
As Tucker has died, the two women who knew him best mourn him in different ways. T’Pol’s canon relationship is well-known. She ends up breaking down in front of Jay Hayes‘s replacement, Major Strong Bear Dawson, who everybody calls Bud. Bud is the sole eyewitness to her breakdown, and he tells her he won’t say anything to anyone. She asks how she can repay his kindness and he tells her to just go and have a good life.
Hoshi’s relationship with Tripp is outlined in Together. But the song that is the title of the piece, and is woven throughout this songfic, was played during the party outlined in More, More, More! Hoshi reveals that she and Tripp danced to it. She comes to the realization that it served as a prelude to their time together, and that Tucker may have liked her before then. For her, the music, and a dance with Travis, are how she feels she can cope.
When she and T’Pol are alone together, she passes the music from the party to the Vulcan, urging her to listen so that she can, in a way, understand another facet of Tripp’s personality, something she may not have already known. It is a final act of generosity between women who were not exactly romantic rivals, but rather were romantic steps or links in the chain that was Tripp’s life.
Apart from the Donna Summer song, the entire playlist from More, More, More! is as follows –
Alicia Bridges – I Love the Night Life
The Trammps – Disco Inferno
The Bee Gees – More Than a Woman
Andrea True Connection – More, More, More!
Silver Convention – Fly, Robin, Fly
Patrick Hernandez – Born To Be Alive
Thelma Houston – Don’t Leave Me This Way
Lipps Inc. – Funky Town
Van McCoy – The Hustle
The Bee Gees – Night Fever
Kool & the Gang – Celebration
The Weather Girls – It’s Raining Men
Michael Jackson – Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough
Lobo – Me and You and a Dog named Boo
Melanie – Brand New Key
The Captain and Tennille – Love Will Keep Us Together
Commodores – Brick House
Tavares – It Only Takes a Minute
Donna Summer – On the Radio
La Flavour – Mandolay
Earth Wind & Fire – Let’s Groove
K.C. & the Sunshine Band – That’s the Way I Like It
Village People – YMCA
The Bee Gees – Stayin’ Alive
Chic – Le Freak
Rick James – Super Freak
Tavares – Heaven Must Be Missing an Angel
Vicki Sue Robinson – Turn the Beat Around
Barry White – Can’t Get Enough of Your Love
Hues Corporation – Rock the Boat
Sister Sledge – We Are Family
Diana Ross – Love Hangover
Kool & the Gang – Ladies Night
A Taste of Honey – Boogie Oogie Oogie
Donna Summer – Last Dance
On the Radio origin posting
On the Radio on Fanfiction.net
In addition, On the Radio on Fictionpad
On the Radio on Wattpad
On the Radio in context
As a story, I think it works pretty well. Reactions have been mixed; some critics have said they thought T’Pol would not act as forcefully as she does, but Star Trek: Enterprise canon dictates that this is a former trellium addict and so her emotions are still not fully under control, even years later.
In this story, I am probably more like the Hoshi character. Removed but mournful, and saddened by the wasted potential more than anything else. I have no problem with Tucker being killed off in canon. People die and they should die in space. Space is far from safe, particularly during that era. But I wanted to see a lot more of the aftermath. I hope this aftermath/afterimage type of story can work for readers.
Review – There’s Something About Hoshi
What about Hoshi?
So back in 2005, I wrote an initial five Star Trek: Enterprise fan fiction stories. I centered them all around the five senses. More, More, More was about hearing. The Puzzle (which was a more complex and ambitious tale) was about sight. The Adventures of Porthos took on smell. And If You Can’t Stand the Heat was about taste.
Hence There’s Something About Hoshi was about touch and, by extension, feelings.
The story begins with Hoshi Sato being courted by Ted Stone. But he’s a somewhat inept suitor, and keeps missing his marks. He tries to be romantic but can’t quite get it right. Hoshi fears she is settling, and references the canon E2 episode where she settled for “old what’s his name” (Sekar Khan, the Quartermaster).
The Enterprise is contacted by an unknown species, the Arisians. They notice her on the Bridge and their communications are inept enough that everyone can hear one of them mentioning his astonishment that there is a woman. They create a pretext for Hoshi to come to the surface. She agrees even though everyone that the Enterprise sees on Aris seems to be male.
Hoshi (Linda Park) dressed for the evening
A pair of MACOs accompany Hoshi, and it becomes clear that they are a gay couple. Friends of hers, they compliment her on her choice of attire for the evening. It’s confirmed that Frank Todd will be one of the MACOs going to the surface (Frank also shows up in Shell Shock and in the E2 stories), as will his boss, Major Dawson (Dawson is also a part of Shell Shock and is the replacement for Jay Hayes).
A visit to the planet confirms that everyone is male. Milit, an Arisian, tells the landing party (in addition to Hoshi, Corporal Todd and Major Dawson, Travis Mayweather, Jonathan Archer and Malcolm Reed are present) that, long ago, the men of his species researched how to decrease gestation until eventually they could accomplish all of it without women. Once accomplished, they allowed all of the women to die out and only cloned males. Hoshi realizes, uncomfortably, that she is the only woman on the entire planet.
Hieroglyphics at mesa pintada
Then she asks to see hieroglyphics, which were the pretext for getting her to the surface. So Todd and an Arisian, Lio, accompany her to where the hieroglyphics supposedly are. Todd and Hoshi are overcome and her hormones are extracted via syringe. However, Lio and his cohorts also inject her and Corporal Todd with something else.
By the time Hoshi returns to the ship, she is suddenly irresistible to all of the men on board (and a few women as well), but not Corporal Todd as his preference doesn’t go that way. Harassed and scared, even the captain gets in on bothering her, leering at her on the Bridge as various other male crew members make all sorts of passes at her until the Arisians can make things right again.
There’s Something about Hoshi on Ad Astra
There’s Something about Hoshi on Fanfiction.net
also, There’s Something about Hoshi on Fictionpad
There’s Something about Hoshi on Wattpad (Future Matches)
There’s Something about Hoshi in context
The story has a K rating.
I played the story for humor. While it’s still funny, seven years of hindsight give me another perspective. In a lot of ways, it’s kind of creepy, the way that everyone is throwing themselves at her. The character was in very real danger of sexual assault. If I were writing the story today, I would probably amp up the fear more, and downplay more of the humor.
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Home Calender of Events CHENNAI: Maharajapuram Santhanam memorial awards for 2012
CHENNAI: Maharajapuram Santhanam memorial awards for 2012
The Maharajapuram Santhanam Foundation, Chennai will present the annual Maharajapuram Santhanam memorial award to Mandolin U. Shrinivas at a function on Oct. 27, 4.30 pm onwards at Vani Mahal, T. Nagar, Chennai.
This award carries a cash award of Rs.1 lakh, a gold medal and a citation and memento.
Also, meritorious achievement awards are to be given to Vasuda Kesav, S. Srinivasan and R. Ramesh.
All awards are instituted by Vijayakumar Reddy and Preetha Reddy in memory of late P. Obul Reddy and P. Gnanambal .
N. Murali, president, The Music Academy, presides. Prof. T. N. Krishnan presents the awards N.K.T Muthu and Maharajapuram Srinivasan felicitate the awardees.
More at www.maharajapuram.in
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Kaʻū News Briefs, Sunday, December 2, 2018
Kīlauea Military Camp's Holiday Challenge is open for public strolling and viewing through Monday, Dec. 31.
The event features the row of cottages along the front of the camp decorated in with characters and Christmas decor.
Kīlauea Military Camp employees created the Christmas scenes. Everyone is invited to vote for a favorite cottage.
See more, below. Photo by Dave Berry
THE ASHES OF 100 PEOPLE WILL FLY OVERHEAD for four to five years. A tiny cubical satellite will carry the ashes, including those from a software expert who worked on Mauna Kea. The 4-inch square satellite will ride into space with other satellites on the SpaceX Falcon 9 Rocket, scheduled for launch no earlier than tomorrow, Dec. 3, from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. It is the first ever spacecraft dedicated to space burial.
According to CNN, families of the deceased said those with ashes on board are mostly those with scientific, military, or romantic interest in space. It cost about $2,500 for each set of ashes' rideshare. Family and friends will be able to track the mausoleum satellite through an app that shows it circling the planet. After four to five years, the satellite and ashes will fall from space, disintegrating as a "shooting star," states Elysiumspace.com, the company with a burial-in-space program.
The man with the Hawaiʻi Island connection and some of his ashes on board is Doug Morrison, who graduated from University of Hawaiʻi Hilo and worked at the Keck Observatory for seven years as a software engineer. According to a story today in Hawaiʻi Tribune Herald, some of Morrison's programs are still in use. The story by Michael Brestovansky reports that Morrison "received a commendation from NASA for his involvement in implementing the Keck Interferometer Nuller, which combines the light from the two Keck telescopes and allows better clarification of dust orbiting stars."
Morrison, who also worked in gaming software, died unexpectedly during surgery two years ago, at the age of 34.
Elysium Space calls tomorrow's mission Star II and its Celestial Service Shooting Star Memorial. At last check it was in the Launch Que and reservations were closed. See more at Elysiumspace.com.
The late Pres. George H.W. Bush monument in downtown Houston. Photo by Jaime E. Galvan/KHU11
THE REPUBLICAN, THE LATE PRES. GEORGE H.W. BUSH, received praise from Hawaiʻi Democrats, Senators Brian Schatz and Mazie Hirono. On Facebook yesterday, Schatz wrote, "President George H.W. Bush showed us all how to live a life of service with personal decency and humility.
"His long career of service began when he was 17. In the immediate aftermath of the attack on Pearl Harbor, he tried to enlist in the Navy, only to be told to come back in six months. When he did, he quickly became the youngest Navy pilot at that point in our nation's history.
Sen. Brian Schatz
"Fifty years later, President Bush traveled to Honolulu, not as a sailor but as President, to mark the 50th anniversary of the attack. He could have focused on how the day that lives in infamy changed his own life. Instead, he used it to call for healing between the United States and Japan – to foster forgiveness and peace.
"Our thoughts are with the Bush family, and with the entire nation as we grieve one of the most committed public servants in modern history. May his memory be a blessing, and his life of service a point of light."
Bush will be honored by a holiday nationwide for federal workers on Wednesday, during a day of mourning declared by Pres. Donald Trump. Bush will lie in state from late Monday, Dec. 3 to Wednesday morning, Dec. 5, at the U.S. Capitol rotunda, followed by a service at the National Cathedral at 11 a.m. After a fight to Houston, Bush will lie in repose at St. Martin's Episcopal Church, with two services. His last ride will be on a funeral train to Texas A&M University, where he will be laid to rest at the George H.W. Bush Presidential Library & Museum.
Sen. Mazie Hirono tweeted, "George HW Bush dedicated his life to serving our country and the American people."
Sen. Dru Kanuha
HAWAIʻI ISLAND'S STATE SENATORS have received their committee assignments at the Capitol.
Sen. Dru Mamo Kanuha, District Three, representing west Kaʻū through Kona, is Majority Caucus Leader, Housing Committee Vice Chair, and is on the Education, Government Operations, and Ways and Means Committees.
Sen. Russell Ruderman, District Two, representing east Kaʻū into Puna, is Chair of the Human Services Committee, Agriculture and Environment Committee Vice Chair, and is on the Commerce, Consumer Protection, and Health Committees.
Sen. Russell Ruderman
Sen. Kaialiʻi Kahele, District One, representing Hilo, is Majority Floor Leader, Chair of the Water and Land Committee, Hawaiian Affairs Committee Vice Chair, and is on the Higher Education and Ways and Means Committees.
Sen. Lorraine Inouye, District Four, representing the northern portions of the island, from Hilo to Kona, is Majority Whip, Chair of the Transportation Committee, Government Operations Committee Vice Chair, and is on the Energy, Economic Development, and Tourism, and Ways and Means Committees.
SEN. MAZIE HIRONO OBJECTS TO THE NOMINATION of Judge Thomas Farr to North Carolina's district court. She took to the Senate floor in Washington, D.C. last week to speak out against Farr's nomination, saying it is "known that Mr. Farr had spent his professional life engaged in restricting minority voting rights and defending companies alleged to have discriminated against African Americans, women, and others." Watch her speech.
Sen. Mazie Hirono
She posted to Facebook, "Thomas Farr dedicated his career to furthering oppression and injustices against minorities and women. He has no business being confirmed to a lifetime position as a judge, and I urge my colleagues to join me in voting no.
"This vacancy has remained open so long because of Republicans' refusal to confirm qualified minority women, and their insistence on filling it with a man whose career is filled examples of his using the law to advance a racist, obstructionist, plainly un-American agenda."
TREECYCLING WILL BE AVAILABLE at county Recycling and Transfer Stations which accept greenwaste. Treecycling begins during normal business hours between December 26, 2018, and January 15, 2019 at Volcano, Keaʻau, Pāhoa, Hilo, Kealakehe (Kailua-Kona), Ke‘ei, and Waimea Transfer Stations. Treecycling is not available at the Miloli’i or Oceanview Transfer Stations.
All decorations, stands, lights, tinsel, and ornaments must be removed prior to treecycling. Note that artificial trees, flocked trees, or trees with decorations cannot be tree-cycled, but may be disposed of in the regular trash chutes. Also, kadomatsu decorations may be placed in the normal tree-cycling areas. Kadomatsu decorations are normally a combination of bamboo, pine, and flowers.
For more information or a map and directions to drop-off locations, go to hawaiizerowaste.org/facilities. For more information on Recycling in Hawai‘i County, visit hawaiizerowaste.org or call the Solid Waste Division at 961-8270.
KAʻŪ TROJANS GIRLS SOCCER continued to have a rough season start. Saturday, Dec. 1, they played at Honokaʻa, where they did not score against their opponents. The game ended with Honokaʻa at 8, Kaʻū, 0.
KAʻŪ TROJANS BOYS BASKETBALL took their second game, of two, for the season, keeping it Kaʻū Strong. The boys played McKinley in another close game, taking the win by three points, 37 to 34.
Kaʻū High December Sports Schedule
Dec. 3, Mon, @Konawaena, 6pm
Dec. 5, Wed., @Waiakea, 6pm
Dec. 15, Sat., JV host
Laupāhoehoe, 2pm
Dec. 17, Mon., host HPA, 6pm
Dec. 19, Wed., host Kohala, 6pm
Dec. 22, Sat., host JV
Christian Liberty, 2pm
Dec. 15, Sat., host Pāhoa
Dec. 18, Tue., @Keaʻau
Dec. 22, Sat, host Parker
Dec. 27, Thu., @Kealakehe
Dec. 8, Sat., @Waiakea
Dec. 15, Sat., @Oʻahu
Dec. 5, Wed., host Pāhoa
Dec. 8, Sat., Boys host Kohala
Dec., 11, Tue., @Kamehameha
Dec., 13, Thu., Girls host Makualani
Dec. 19, Wed., host HPA
Dec. 22, Sat., host Waiakea
Dec. 29, Sat., @Konawaena
Dec. 8, Sat., @HPA, 10am
Dec. 29, Sat., @Kamehameha, 10am
ALL ABOUT ANCHIALINE POOLS, an After Dark in the Park program hosted on Tuesday, Dec. 4, starting at 7 p.m., is offered inside Hawai‘i Volcanoes National Park's Kīlauea Visitor Center Auditorium. Dena Sedar of Hawai῾i State Parks discusses anchialine pools, a natural resource that is special to Hawaiʻi; the only state in the United States where anchialine pools are found. Hawaiian anchialine pools are home to the endemic ʻōpae ʻula, the tiny red pond shrimp that help anchialine pool ecosystems thrive. The program is co-sponsored by Friends of Hawai‘i Volcanoes National Park. Attendance is free; donations help support park programs. Park entrance fees apply. For more, call 985-6011 or visit nps.gov/havo.
Hawai‘i Wildlife Fund Net Patrol along Wai‘ōhinu Coastline, Mon., Dec. 3, 17, and 27, contact for meet up time at Wai‘ōhinu Park. Limited seats available for all three days. BYO-4WD welcome. Free; donations appreciated. RSVP to kahakai.cleanups@gmail.com or call 769-7629 for more.
Spay and Neutering Clinic, Monday, Dec. 3, 7:30-4pm, St. Jude's Episcopal Church, Ocean View.
Ka‘ū Homeschool Co–op Group, Mon., Dec. 3, 17, and 31, 1pm, Ocean View Community Center. Parent-led homeschool activity/social group building community in Ka‘ū. Confirm location in case of field trip. Laura Roberts, 406-249-3351
Story Time with Lindsey Miller from PARENTS, Inc., Mon., Dec. 3, 2:30-3:15pm, Nā‘ālehu Public Library. 333-3460, lindsey@hawaiiparents.org
Nā’ālehu Tee Ball - Sign-Ups, Mon., Dec. 3, 3-4pm, Nā‘ālehu Community Park. Ages 5 and 6, practice every following Mon. & Wed., 3-4pm. Fees TBA. Josh/Elizabeth, 345-0511
Ocean View Volunteer Fire Department Meeting, Mon., Dec. 3, 4-6pm, Ocean View Community Center. 939-7033, ovcahi.org
Free Diabetes Management Program, Mon., Dec. 3, 5pm. Registration required and for location of class in Ka‘ū. For those with Type 1 or 2 diabetes. Hui Mālama Ola Nā ‘Ōiwi, hmono.org, 969-9220
Health Insurance Sign-up, Tue., Dec. 4, 9-4pm, Ocean View Community Center. Sponsored by Hawai‘i Department of Health. 939-7033, ovcahi.org
Family Yoga Class, Tue., Dec. 4, 9:30-10:30am, PARENTS, Inc., Nā‘ālehu. 3-12 years old and caregivers. All levels welcome. Wear comfortable clothes. Bring mat, if can, as supplies are limited. Free. 333-3460, lindsey@hawaiiparents.org
A Walk into the Past w/ Dr. Thomas A. Jaggar, Tue, Dec. 4, 11, and 18, 10 a.m., noon, and 2 p.m., meet at Kīlauea Visitor Center. Tour Jaggar's tiny lab located below the Volcano House to see original seismograph equipment and other early instruments with Dick Hershberger as "Dr. Jaggar." Supported by the KDEN. Free; park entrance fees apply. nps.gov/havo
Ocean View Tee Ball - Sign-Ups, Tue., Dec. 4, 3-4pm, Kahuku Park, Hawaiian Ocean View Estates. Ages 5 and 6 practice every following Tue. & Thu., 3-4pm. Fees TBA. Josh/Elizabeth, 345-0511
Ocean View Coach Pitch Baseball - Sign-Ups, Tue., Dec. 4, 4-5pm, Kahuku Park, H.O.V.E. Ages 7 and 8 practice every following Tue. & Thu., 4-5pm. Fees TBA. Josh/Elizabeth, 345-0511
Discovery Harbour Volunteer Fire Dept. Meeting, Tue., Dec. 4, 4-6pm, Dec. 18, 4:30-6:30pm, Discovery Harbour Community Hall. 929-9576, discoveryharbour.net
Ka‘ū Coffee Growers Meeting, Tue., Dec. 4, 6-8pm, Pāhala Community Center.
After Dark in the Park, All About Anchialine Pools, Tue., Dec. 4, 7pm, Kīlauea Visitor Center Auditorium, Hawai‘i Volcanoes National Park. Hawai‘i State Parks Dena Sedar presents. Free; donations accepted. Park entrance fees apply. 985-6011, nps.gov/havo
Basic Stretch & Strengthening Exercise Class, Wed., Dec. 5 and 12, 9:30-10:30am, Nā‘ālehu Community Center. Designed for all ages; geared toward those needing to maintain or increase mobility, and those wanting a gentle stretch. Call 969-9220 to sign-up. Free; donations accepted.
Arts & Craft Activity: Paper Tree Table Top, Wed., Dec. 5, 3:30-5pm, Ka‘ū District Gym multi-purpose room. Register through Dec. 5; open to keiki Grades K-8. 928-3102
Open Mic Night, Wed., Dec. 5, 6-10pm, Kīlauea Military Camp inside Hawai‘i Volcanoes National Park. Call 967-8365 after 4pm to sign-up and for more details. Park entrance fees apply. Open to KMC patrons and sponsored guests 21+. 967-8371, kilaueamilitarycamp.com
Basic Stretch & Strengthening Exercise Class, Thu., Dec. 6 and 13, 9:30-10:30am, Pāhala Senior Center. Designed for all ages; geared toward those needing to maintain or increase mobility, and those wanting a gentle stretch. Call 969-9220 to sign-up. Free; donations accepted.
Women's Support Group, Thu., Dec. 6 and 20, 3-4:30pm, PARENTS Inc., Nā‘ālehu. 1st and 3rd Thu. of every month thereafter. Women welcome to drop in anytime. Free. Lindsey Miller, 333-3460
Ocean View Neighborhood Watch Meeting, Thu., Dec. 6, 6-7pm, Ocean View Community Center. 939-7033, ovcahi.org
Volcano School of Arts and Sciences Middle School Theater Night, Thu., Dec. 6, 6pm, Kīlauea Military Camp's Kīlauea Theater, inside Hawai‘i Volcanoes National Park. 6th, 7th, and 8th grade each perform a one-act play: The Invisible Man by Tim Kelly, Last Stop Till Christmas by Pat Cook, and The Quest: A Fairy Take with Attitude by Eddie McPherson. Free; donations gratefully accepted. Park entrance fees apply.
‘O Ka‘ū Kākou Meeting, Thu., Dec. 6, 6:30pm, Aspen Center. okaukakou.org
Hula Voices w/Kumu Hula Micah Kamohoali‘i, Thu., Dec. 6, 7-9pm, Volcano Art Center Gallery, Hawai‘i Volcanoes National Park. Desiree Cruz moderates the talk story session. Free. Final program for 2018. 967-7565
PATCH Class #425, More Than Counting: Math in Preschool, Fri., Dec. 7, 8-11am, PARENTS, Inc. office, Nā‘ālehu. Teaching strategies that support the development of mathematical concepts in preschool-age children. Sponsored by Tūtū & Me Traveling Preschool. No childcare provided. 238-3472, rhall@patch-hi.org
PATCH Class #309, Together in Care, Fri., Dec. 7, noon-3pm, PARENTS, Inc. office, Nā‘ālehu. Creating close caregiver/child relationships within a group. Sponsored by Tūtū & Me Traveling Preschool. No childcare provided. 238-3472, rhall@patch-hi.org
Stewardship at the Summit, Fri., Dec. 7, Sat., Dec. 15 and 22. Meet Paul and Jane Field at 8:45am in Hawai‘i Volcanoes National Park at Kīlauea Visitor Center. Volunteers help remove invasive, non-native plants species that prevent native plants from growing. Wear sturdy hiking shoes and long pants. Bring hat, rain gear, day pack, snacks, and water. Gloves and tools provided. Parental/guardian accompaniment or written consent required. Free; however, park entrance fees apply. No advance registration required. nps.gov/havo
Youth Group, Fri., Dec. 7 & 21, 6:30-8:30pm, Ocean View Community Center. Sponsored by Lamb of God Baptist Church.
Nā Mamo o Kāwā ʻOhana Work Day, Sat., Dec. 8, meet 9:30am, Northern Gate, Kāwā. RSVP with w/James Akau, jakau@nmok.org, 561-9111. Updates and notifications on upcoming ʻOhana Workdays, see nmok.org or facebook.com/namamoo.kawa.
Paths and Trails, Sat., Dec. 8, 9:30-12:30pm, Kahuku Unit of Hawai‘i Volcanoes National Park. Moderately-difficult, 2-mile, hike. Free. nps.gov/havo
Zentangle: Pen in Henna, Sat., Dec. 8, 10-1pm, Volcano Art Center's Ni‘aulani Campus in Volcano Village. Art work guided by designs from Mehndi Henna style. Student kits provided. Open to all levels. Students invited to bring snacks to share. $30/VAC member, $35/non-member, plus $10 supply fee/person. volcanoartcenter.org, 967-8222
HOVE Road Maintenance Annual Meeting, Sat., Dec. 8, 11:30-12:30pm, Ocean View Community Center. hoveroad.com, 929-9910, gm@hoveroad.com
Volunteer Fire Department Annual Dinner, Sat., Dec. 8, 3-8pm, Discovery Harbour Community Hall. discoveryharbour.net, 929-9576
Jazz in the Forest Christmas Special, Sat., Dec. 8, 5:30pm – doors open 5pm – Volcano Art Center Ni‘aulani Campus, Volcano Village. Jean Pierre Thoma & The Jazztones with Jeannine Guillory, featuring Christmas favorites and original compositions. $20/VAC member, $25/non-member. volcanoartcenter.org, 967-8222
A Gift of Love, Volcano Festival Chorus Annual Christmas Concert, Sat., Dec. 8, 7:30pm, Kīlauea Military Camp's Kīlauea Theater, inside Hawai‘i Volcanoes National Park. 25 member chorus under direction of Roch Jones, accompaniment by Laura Kahale, with Cheryl Shine on flute. Free; donations gratefully accepted. Park entrance fees apply.
Pāhala Christmas Parade, Sun., Dec. 9, 1pm, Pāhala Armory at Pakalana St. to Holy Rosary Church, Pikake St. Parade ends with food and entertainment. Parade participants line up at 11. Andrade, 928-0808
Pu‘u o Lokuana, Sun., Dec. 9, 9:30-11am, Kahuku Unit of Hawai‘i Volcanoes National Park. Short, moderately difficult, 0.4-mile hike. Free. nps.gov/havo
Christmas in the Country and 19th Annual Invitational Wreath Exhibition are open at Volcano Art Center Gallery in Hawai‘i Volcanoes National Park, 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. daily.
Christmas in the Country runs through Wednesday, Dec. 26. Enjoy an abundance of art and aloha as VAC creates a merry scene of an old-fashioned Christmas inside its 1877 historic building. In addition to artwork, find unique holiday offerings of island-inspired gifts, ornaments, and decorations made by Hawai‘i Island artists, including VAC exclusives.
The Wreath Exhibition is available through Tuesday, Jan. 1. The exhibition presents one-of-a-kind wreaths in a variety of imaginative media, techniques, and styles, from the whimsical to the traditional, with this year's theme of Home for the Holidays - inspired by the four month closure of Hawai‘i Volcanoes National Park.
Admission is free; Park entrance fees apply. For more, call 967-8222, or visit volcanoartcenter.org.
Kīlauea Military Camp's Holiday Challenge is open for viewing through Monday, Dec. 31. The event features a row of cottages along the front of the camp decorated in with various characters and Christmas decor - with Kīlauea Military Camp employees responsible and competing for a popularity vote. The public is invited to admire the decorations and vote for their favorite decorated cottage. Kīlauea Military Camp is open to all authorized patrons and sponsored guests. Park entrance fees apply. Call 967-8371 for additional information. See kilaueamilitarycamp.com.
Basic Stretch and Strengthening Exercise Class, sponsored by Hui Mālama Ola Nū ʻŌiwi, happens Wednesdays at Nāʻālehu Community Center and Thursdays at Pāhala Senior Center; no classes between Dec. 14 and Jan. 8. The free classes – donations accepted – run from 9:30 a.m. to 10:30 a.m. The class offers "basic stretches and muscular endurance exercises that will help improve your flexibility and strength. Designed for all ages; geared toward those needing to maintain or increase mobility, and those wanting a gentle stretch." Learn more at hmono.org, facebook.com/HMONO.org/, @hui_malama_ on Instagram, or call 808-969-9220.
Substitute School Health Assistant Positions are available. Qualifications: CPR and First Aid certifications, and a high school diploma or equivalent. Training begins in 2019. Contact Kristy Loo for more at look@hkkk.k12.hi.us.
Volunteers Needed by St. Jude's Episcopal Church for community outreach, especially soup cooks and shower organizers, towel laundry, alter guild, and for the computer lab. Volunteers do not have to be members of the church. "Volunteering for St. Jude's Saturday Shower and Soup ministry is an opportunity to serve God in a powerful way," states St. Jude's. Contact Dave Breskin, 319-8333.
Tūtū and Me tuition-free traveling preschool, for keiki birth to five years old and their caregivers, has twice a week meeting in Pāhala, Tuesdays and Thursdays, from 8:30 to 10:30 a.m., at Pāhala Community Center. In Nāʻālehu, meetings are at Kauahaʻao Church in Waiʻōhinu, Mondays and Wednesdays, from 8:45 to 10:45 a.m.
Tūtū and Me also offers home visits to aid caregivers with parenting tips and strategies, educational resources, and a compassionate, listening ear. Visits last 1.5 hours, two to four times a month, total of 12 visits. Snacks are provided.
To enroll in either free program, fill out enrollment forms found at pidf.org/programs/tutu_and_me/enrollment_forms, or call Linda Bong at 929-8571, or Betty Clark at 464-9634 or eclark@pidfountation.org.
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An annotated bibliography of works for solo marimba and electronics published from 1978-2012
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Abstract: The purpose of this study was to create an annotated bibliography of works for solo marimba and electronics published from 1978-2012. Thirty-four compositions were included in the annotated bibliography. For inclusion in this study, works met criteria established as follows: published and commercially available prior to January 1, 2013; supplied with both the score and accompaniment material; written for an individual performer; original composition for marimba; and marimba was the only keyboard percussion instrument. The incidental use of auxiliary percussion instruments did not disqualify a work for inclusion. The information identified in each entry of the annotated bibliography includes title, composer, publisher, range of marimba needed, duration of the work, number of movements, the type of accompaniment, and composer or publisher's notes. Entries in the bibliography were organized alphabetically by composer last name. Each entry contains overviews of the accompaniment and performance techniques, including four-mallet stroke types and difficulty, as well as a musical overview, which covers such topics as specific challenges within the work or mallet selection. The annotations are neither meant to evaluate the musical merits of the works nor make observations or draw conclusions regarding the development of the identified compositions. The information provided in this document is intended to serve as a practical and useful resource for performers and bring broader awareness to the included works. The first chapter includes discussion of the study's limitations and the process for identifying and selecting works included works. The scope of academic research relevant to works for solo marimba and electronics is examined in Chapter Two. The third chapter includes discussion of the annotation formats used in bibliographies of marimba literature that serve as the basis for the annotations contained in this document, as well as defining the terminology contained in these annotations. Chapter Four is the annotated bibliography of published works for solo marimba and electronics. The fifth chapter is a summary of the study followed by conclusions and suggestions for further research. Three appendices index the included works by title, date, and duration.
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Police questioning heavy metal singer alleged racist lyrics
Police in Prague have summonsed the heavy metal singer Aleš Brichta to answer questions about the allegedly racist lyrics of the title track on his new album Deratizér (exterminator). The song contains the lines “politicians are making idiots of everybody while gypsies are stealing bicycles in the street, it should be dealt with by an exterminator”. The rock singer denies that the lyrics are racist, saying he employed artistic licence. On Tuesday the far-right Workers’ Party issued a statement condemning what they called the media “humbug” surrounding the song. For his part, Mr Brichta said he had nothing to do with the Workers’ Party; he said their name was reminiscent of the Communist Party, and that such groupings held no attraction for him.
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庐境天台度假酒店
The Lucid Resort
Argentina gears up to welcome Chinese visitors
BUENOS AIRES, July 14 (Xinhua) -- If the way to a man's heart is through his stomach, then maybe the same applies to China's growing number of globetrotters.
Argentina is banking on the old adage to attract more Chinese tourism, and the strategy is part of "Hilton Huanying" program that derives from the Chinese word for "welcome."
The program is an initiative already in place at more than 150 Hilton hotels around the world, but relatively new to the property in Argentina's capital Buenos Aires, the first Latin American city to offer it.
"We are very proud to be part of the Hilton Huanying program here in Buenos Aires," director of sales and marketing at Hilton Buenos Aires, Mariano Cannello, told Xinhua."We see it as a great opportunity to welcome Chinese travelers with the standards of personalized service we know they expect and enjoy," Cannello added.
According to the hotel, after the program was launched, bookings by Chinese tourists rose 160 percent per night compared to last year, with an average stay by Chinese tourists of 2.15 nights.
Gonzalo Tordini, head of educational affairs at the Latin American Center on Chinese Political and Economic Studies, said Argentina is keen to tap into China's booming outbound tourism to help its flagging domestic economy.
Buenos Aires is an attractive destination for the Chinese traveler given its culture, cuisine and passion for football. But the country offers a wide variety of sights, such as Patagonia to the south, a region characterized by the beauty of its glaciers, lakes and mountains.
"Argentina has great potential for receiving Chinese tourists. Patagonia, in particular, offers conditions that may be of great interest to Chinese visitors," said Tordini, whose center signed a cooperation agreement with Ente Patagonia Argentina last year to promote Chinese tourism."With impressive landscapes, excellent infrastructure, diverse adventure activities and a hospitable population, Patagonia expects to attract travelers from literally the other side of the world," said Tordini.
Argentina is also taking other steps to boost tourism from China, including easing the visa application process and working to improve air connectivity.According to data from the Argentine Ministry of Tourism, between 2011 and 2017 the arrivals of Chinese tourists to Argentina increased steadily, reaching around 60,000 tourists.
In 2017, 10-year visas were issued to Chinese citizens traveling to Argentina for tourism or business purposes.In August 2018, Chile and Argentina announced an agreement for the reciprocal recognition of visas for Chinese tourists starting January 2019.
"The work that is being done to facilitate visas and improve air connectivity between the two countries will surely further support this effort," said Tordini.
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Stockholm Syndrome>>FATALIST - USA
The Depths Of Inhumanity - 2009 - Ibex Moon
The Bitter End – 2016 – F.D.A.
S= Uphill Battle>>WES CALEY
G= Uphill Battle, Exhumed, Stonehelm>>WES CALEY>>Stonehelm - Dirty Dead, Stump, Logsplitter, P.O.O.R.>>NEIL BURKDOLL>>P.O.O.R.
B= Butchery, P.O.O.R.>>Art Hayes>>P.O.O.R.
D= Tylar Castrol – Disease Infected, As Hope Dies, Summers End, Wageslave, Semtex Vest>>GRIFFIN FIGUEROA>>Semtex Vest
The band was originally conceived as a Swedish death metal cover band called Stockholm Syndrome. Fatalist was formed in 2006 in California and issued a 2007 seven-song demo called Loss. The band formed by ex-members of Exhumed, Uphill Battle and Stump and played old school Swedish death metal in the vein of Entombed. The group was finishing work on its debut album, The Depths Of Inhumanity for Ibex Moon Records in late 2008. It was comprised of the band’s demo songs mostly.
Joining Neil and Art in Fatalist in 2010 was Sean Jessel (Mentacide) on drums, Matt Drexler on lead guitars and Mike Deity (Carnal Deity) on main vocals. This was the line-up that recorded the Death song Beyond The Unholy Grave for the movie After Party Massacre. Its drummer rejoined the band in late 2010. Tyler returned to a recently revamped line-up featuring Matt Drexler on lead guitar and Mike Deity (Carnal Deity) on vocals. The band and Incantation were playing several shows in November. The group disbanded in 2012, reformed in 2014 and issued a Promo demo.
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The Wildlife Ho-tographer - Jaguar photos and photography
Jaguars - Panthera onca
The Jaguar (Panthera onca) is a big cat belonging to the Panthera genus, and is the only Panthera species found in the Americas. It ranks third in size after the tiger and the lion, and the largest cat in the Western Hemisphere. The jaguar's present range extends from Southwestern United States and Mexico across much of Central America and south to Paraguay and northern Argentina. Apart from a known and possibly breeding population in Arizona (southeast of Tucson), the cat has largely been exterminated from the United States since the early 20th century.
This Jaguar is a spotted cat that is often mistaken for a leopard. It is usually larger and of sturdier build and its behavioral and habitat characteristics are closer to those of the tiger. While dense rainforest is its preferred habitat, the jaguar will range across a variety of forested and open terrains. It is strongly associated with the presence of water and is notable, along with the tiger, as a feline that enjoys swimming.
Female Jaguars can weigh anywhere up to over 200 pounds while the much larger males have been recorded to weigh as much as 350 pounds. They can range in length up to 6.5 feet, from the nose to the base of the tail and stand about 2 to 2 1/2 feet tall at the shoulder. Jaguars are apex predators and largely a solitary, opportunistic, stalk-and-ambush hunter. Theh have an exceptionally powerful bite, relative to the other big cats. Unlike other big cats that kill by stragulation, Jaguars kill their prey by biting directly through the skull of their victim to deliver a fatal blow.
The Jaguar is a near threatened species and its numbers are declining. Threats include loss and fragmentation of habitat. While international trade in Jaguars or their parts is prohibited, the cat is still frequently killed by humans, particularly in conflicts with ranchers and farmers in South America.
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Parents file federal suit over allegation of sexual assault in Charles County school playground
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Huguely insurance litigation ends; Love family’s suit set for trial
A federal judge ruled Tuesday that State Farm Fire & Casualty Co. has no duty to pay damages in civil court for the man convicted of killing University of Virginia student Yeardley Love, potentially ending more than six years of litigation over the coverage issue. George Huguely V, Love’s ex-boyfriend, was convicted of second-degree murder for her 2010 death. The Love family filed a wrongful death lawsuit in Charlottesville Circuit Court in 2012 and later withdrew and refiled the case in 2018. The case is set for trial in November. (Daily Record)
As Howard delegation heads to Annapolis, bills concerning education take center stage
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Confusion, ‘misinformation’ over Montgomery County school boundary analysis
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Maryland weather: Drivers should expect fog and icy conditions Wednesday; some schools delayed
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Maryland Winds bringing Wild West themes to South Carroll: ‘It’s just fun music’
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Publish article Reducing class size a top priority in Alban's proposed budget
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“Everybody Knows” is the first Leonard Cohen song that I ever heard
I recorded this cover last night
a capella and raw
like how i am feeling now
* Actually my cover is a cover of Concrete Blonde’s cover of Leonard Cohen’s original
In dark times, don’t let the music die
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Imaginary Islands, Cybernetic Cannibals, and NEO TRIBES
My latest thoughts on community building, republished from Medium
Founding Myths
I was born on the island of Taiwan, and I currently reside on the island of Manhattan. Both are terra firma, hard and fast granite bedrock.
But I also inhabit imaginary islands: online groups, forums, and other virtual places which bring to mind the dated term, “cyberspace.” Here I commune with like-minded souls with shared interests.
Other imaginary islands exist in the physical realm, but they are ethereal and fleeting in time. Festivals and conferences bring together communities of shared interest for a set period of time. Then we disperse. We may reconvene after an interval or fork forever into smaller cells distributed around the world.
My fellow humans on these imaginary islands are neotribalists. We equally reject the rigidity of traditional tribalism as well as the isolation of industrial individualism.
We form imaginary islands as safe spaces for our freak flags to fly free. Imaginary islands are unbounded by physical distance, as we unite with others of mutual interest and shared spirit across geographies. We form archipelagos of fellowship across expanses. Our imaginary islands can be open to everyone or hidden to all but insiders.
The Truku (also known as the Taroko) people of Taiwan have a saying, “the land is blood, the mountain is home.” The Hawaiians have a related saying, “He ali’i ka ‘āina, he kauā ke kanaka.” The land is a chief; man is its servant. These sayings reflect the indigenous worldview where the land owns the people and not the other way around.
But what happens when the “land” that we inhabit is virtual? What happens when we inhabit imaginary islands, shifting cartographies made up of networks andrhizomes in perpetual flux? We craft our communities, our imaginary islands, with intention. How do we belong to these artificial lands. How do our imaginary islands shape us and own us?
Tupi, or Not Tupi
To answer these questions, we will need new stories, new myths, and new truths. We need new stars to guide our way and to connect the far-flung archipelagos of our imaginary islands. We will need to construct new chimera: new combinations and reconfigurations, new ways of doing and of being.
We the neotribers, the inhabitants of imaginary islands, are like cybernetic cannibals, in the spirit of Brazilian poet Oswald de Andrade’s Cannibalist Manifesto (Manifesto antropofágico).
We adapt, appropriate, and remix from a variety of cultural sources. One of the iconic lines of Andrade’s manifesto is “Tupi, or not to Tupi,” a linguistic pun that brings together references Shakespeare and to the Tupi indigenous peoples of Brazil.
In a discussion of cybernetic cannibalism, Lawrence Lessig explains:
we could describe it using modern computer terminology as kind of read-write culture. It’s a culture where people participate in the creation and in the re-creation of their culture. In that sense is read-write.
In this sense, as we are reading and writing our culture, we are terraforming the imaginary islands that we inhabit.
Lessig’s idea of a read-write culture echoes Henry Jenkins’ concept of participatory culture:
For the moment, let’s define participatory culture as one:
1. With relatively low barriers to artistic expression and civic engagement
2. With strong support for creating and sharing one’s creations with others
3. With some type of informal mentorship whereby what is known by the most experienced is passed along to novices
4. Where members believe that their contributions matter
5. Where members feel some degree of social connection with one another (at the least they care what other people think about what they have created).
May the neotribes that we form aspire to be participatory cultures.
Dreamers and Doers
As neotribers, let us dream big but also stay rooted in pragmatism.
Bruce Lee taught us: “Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own.”
This teaching echoes the motto Wakon-yōsai (和魂洋才 “Japanese spirit and Western techniques”) from Meiji-era Japan. The island nation had just emerged from centuries of self-imposed isolation. It found itself vulnerable to Western colonialist powers with superior technology. The motto was an invocation to adopt new methodologies and new technologies while preserving a spirit that was authentic and grounded in “Japaneseness.”
Of course, there are many ways to critique and deconstruct notions of cultural authenticity, but the point I am trying to make is, how do we adopt or create new technologies and new ways of organizing ourselves that reflect the spirit to which we aspire?
The recently-departed activist Grace Lee-Boggs reminds us: “We need to grow our souls.” Activism and philosophy must work together in tandem.
Back in 1977, Marshall McLuhan warned of the violent tribalism of the global village. He derided this tribalism for being “collective and without any individual consciousness.” But we have also seen that individualism taken to an extreme can lead to loneliness and alienation. May neotribes find a middle way in between these extremes.
We can learn from the new nationalisms like the Scottish and Catalan sovereignty movements. While they reject the status quo of the nation states in which they are currently a part, they simultaneously embrace a united Europe and membership in a larger international community. These are nationalisms with more open access to identity and belonging. They eschew the old violent tribalism of blood and soil. Neotribes aspire to be both grounded in the local and connected to the global.
We acknowledge that our blood is mixed, are cultures are mixed. Our destinies are intertwined.
When talking about neotribes, we must be careful not to fall into the old traps of neo-colonial “primitivism.” None of that “noble savage” narrative here please. We must learn to incorporate without (mis)appropriating. We must decolonize and deconstruct ourselves first in order to build something new. We must first empty our cups.
By imaginary islands, I mean “of the imagination.” We are communities of shared interest who dare to dream, who dare to explore, who dare to imagine what might be possible. We must be careful not to allow our imaginary islands to become pure escapism. We must also engage with other communities and tribes outside of our own, to negotiate the global commons and the other shared spaces of our common humanity.
In the Polynesian legends of the Māori of New Zealand and the of native Hawaiians, the ancestral homeland is called Hawaiki. Some anthropologists think that Hawaiki refers to Taiwan. But the truth about Hawaiki is lost to history and immortalized in myth.
In other legends, Hawaiki is also the underworld or the world of the spirits. In other words, Hawaiki is an imaginary island, a utopia, a “no place,” an imagined place. A destination always a bit past the threshold and out of reach, but a perpetually in our hearts and minds.
Our imaginary islands, the homelands of our neotribes, are like Hawaiki. We belong to these islands, and we belong to each other.
Learn more about Neotribes here, and join the conversation on Facebook and Twitter. What do “community” and “neotribes” mean to you?
Posted on October 23, 2015 October 23, 2015 Categories Art, Culture, Design, Foossa, History, Innovation, Inspiration, Technology, WritingTags Activism, Community, NEOTRIBES, Philosophy, Tribes, WisdomHackersLeave a comment on Imaginary Islands, Cybernetic Cannibals, and NEO TRIBES
Building Networks for Good
Earlier this month, I had the privilege of presenting a workshop on Building Networks for Good at the CAPS2015 Conference in Brussels, Belgium. The slide on the screen features the work of Sextant.Works, an Awesome Foundation grantee.
What happens when people come together to take collective action without needing traditional organisational and institutional structures? What tools and strategies do we need for these “Networks for Good” to thrive? In this workshop, designer, storyteller, and community-builder Lee-Sean Huang (Purpose) will explore these questions by drawing from his own experiences building international networks like UX for Good, The Awesome Foundation, and Wisdom Hackers.
Building Networks for Good – CAPS2015 Workshop from Lee-Sean Huang
Posted on July 29, 2015 July 29, 2015 Categories Awesome Foundation, Culture, Design, Foossa, PURPOSETags Foossa, Networks, PURPOSE, SocInnLeave a comment on Building Networks for Good
How (Not) to Design Meaningful Civic Conversations
My latest post on Medium: How (Not) To Design Meaningful Civic Conversations – Lessons from Starbucks’ #RaceTogether campaign controversy; why it’s important to talk to strangers; and strategies for designing dialogue
Posted on March 24, 2015 Categories Culture, Design, Design for Social Innovation, Foossa, Marketing, People, WritingTags AwesomeFoundation, CivicTech, Medium, MeetUp, NametagDay, RaceTogether, Starbucks, Strangers, TableTribes, YikYakLeave a comment on How (Not) to Design Meaningful Civic Conversations
#WeWashing
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WeWashing is a new term that refers to the abuse of words like “sharing” and “community.” Use #WeWashing to identify and critique this abuse.
Whitewash, Greenwash, WeWash
I am usually a satisfied user of services like AirBnb and Uber, even if I don’t 100% agree with all of their corporate policies and practices. But I cringe every time I hear these companies, and others like it, described as part of the “Sharing Economy.”
New technologies can extend the meaning of words, such as “friend” in a post-Facebook world. But for the sake of clarity, new social phenomena also require us to coin new terms for them. Given the expanding use and abuse of terms like “community” and “sharing,” I would like to propose a new term: WeWashing.
Based on terms like whitewashing and greenwashing, WeWashing is when corporations, brands, and other groups use the language of “sharing” and “community” to describe what are essentially capitalist commercial transactions.
Whitewash: when organizations cover up or gloss over their misdeeds, scandals, or negative facts about them.
Greenwash: when organizations use “green” marketing or public relations techniques to communicate an environmentally-friendly image that contrast with the reality of their products, policies, or practices.
WeWash: when organizations refer to renting and selling services as “sharing” and/or use terms like “community” in misleading ways.
We Are Greater Than Our Consumer Selves
In his recent speech at the 50th anniversary of the Selma to Montgomery marches, President Obama points out:
[T]he single-most powerful word in our democracy is the word “We.” “We The People.” “We Shall Overcome.” “Yes We Can.” That word is owned by no one. It belongs to everyone.
Words like “we,” “sharing” and “community” may be common, but they are also meaningful. These words are reminders that we are part of something greater than ourselves. As community members and citizens, we share common bonds and common interests. We are more than consumers. We interact in ways that go beyond commercial transactions.
“We the people.”
Not “We the Monarch.”
Not “We the corporation.”
Not even “We the consumers.”
Our “we” is the “we” of true community, of collaboration, and the shared commons. It is not the “we” of royal or corporate decree.
Our shared language is itself a form of cultural commons that is owned by no one and belongs to everyone. As such, so-called “sharing economy” companies are free to use these words as they like, but we are also free to use them in ways that work for us. We can create our own forms of meaning. We can mold and adapt the language to coin terms like WeWashing.
Now that we have a word for this phenomenon that affects our reality, we can draw attention to it. We can engage in dialog about the pros and cons of “micro entrepreneurship” and the so-called “sharing economy. We can differentiate the “renting economy” from true sharing.
The Rectification of Names
The Rectification of Names (正名) is a doctrine in Confucian philosophy that argues that, for the good of society, we need to call things by their correct and proper names. We need to call a spade a spade. If we can name and identify a problematic phenomenon, we can call it out more easily and take actions to deconstruct it.
For example, by calling discrimination “discrimination,” we are able to take actions to combat it. By coining the term, “environmentalism,” we were able to unite different causes such as air pollution, water contamination, and animal habitat preservation under the umbrella of a single movement.
By calling out incidents of WeWashing, we can preserve the meaning of altruistic sharing and the bonds of community beyond narrowly-defined economic transactions. Of course, there is nothing inherently wrong with buying, selling, and renting to and from one another, but we should rectify our language to separate these kinds of transactions and relationships with ones that are not tied to narrowly capitalist forms of exchange. There is nothing wrong with “friending” or “following” as social media conventions, but we also need ways to differentiate these relationships from deeper forms of friendship or fandom.
At best, the “sharing economy” label is a brand marketing strategy that attempts to take advantage of the “feel good” halo associated with words like “community” and “sharing.” At worst, it is a way of obfuscating commercial transactions as “sharing” as a way of evade the reach of regulation and oversight. This is why we need to rectify the names of explicitly commercial transactions that get labelled as “sharing.”
The idea behind coining the term WeWashing is not meant to create an exclusive binary between “real” sharing and “fake” sharing, “real” community and “fake” community, but to draw attention to the fact that a spectrum exists. My life has been enriched by my experiences in the so-called “sharing economy,” beyond what I paid for the services. I have met Uber drivers from places ranging from Tibet to Mauritania, and they have shared with me about their countries and cultures, enriching my understanding of the world. An AirBnB hostess invited me into her family dinner, making me feel instantly at home in a new place. The fact that these were in the context of commercial transactions and relationships did not diminish their meaning.
However, we need to recognize that there are different kinds of sharing and different kinds of community, just as with the concept of “green,” where we recognize that there is a spectrum of “sustainability.” Some products are greener than others, just as some communities are more selflessly “sharing” than others. We need to keep each other honest about where on the spectrum something falls.
Let’s Hack the Language and Take Action
“WeWashing” as a term enhances our vocabulary and enables us to identify, critique, and engage in dialogue about the misleading use and abuse of terms like “sharing” and “community.” Let’s drop it into our conversations and use it as a hashtag online to call out this phenomenon.
Writing this post and coining the term “WeWashing” is not just a language hack; it is also a cultural intervention and invitation to reflect. It is ultimately not about demonizing corporations who appropriate the language of community and sharing. As my colleague Garance Choko puts it:
The issue is not with corporations co-opting these terms, but more so for us to reclaim how we abide to our “ideal” notion of solidarity, sharing and community.
We must ask ourselves how we can expand the possibilities of the “we.”How should we treat each other? How can we collaborate and cooperate beyond the narrow confines of the marketplace?
Originally published on Medium
Posted on March 16, 2015 March 20, 2015 Categories Activism, Culture, Democracy, Education, Foossa, Innovation, Technology, WritingTags #WeWashing, Airbnb, Branding, Community, Marketing, Public Relations, Sharing Economy, UberLeave a comment on #WeWashing
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The first runner-up at the Kogi Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) governorship primary and son of former Governor Ibrahim Idris, Alhaji Abubakar Idris, has denied meeting secretly with Governor Yahaya Bello.
Bello, who is seeking a second term in office, is the candidate of the ruling All Progressives Congress (APC), for the November 16 governorship election in the state.
Reacting to the trending news of an alleged secret meeting between Bello and Idris, the Abubakar Ibrahim Idris Campaign Organization, described it as not only untrue but malicious.
The erstwhile PDP governorship aspirant’s campaign organisation in a statement signed by the media aide, Issah Lucky Itopa, copies of which were made available to newsmen on Wednesday, in Lokoja, said that the allegation was aimed at causing disaffection in the rank of his supporters.
The statement read: “We debunk the malicious story trending on the social media that the next governor of Kogi State was in a secret meeting with Governor Yahaya Bello.
“They are lies; fake and intended to create disaffection among the ranks of supporters and followers of a man focused and waiting to salvage Kogi state.
“The story is a figment of the imagination of mischief makers and has failed from inception as the support base of Alhaji Abubakar Ibrahim remains intact.
“In any case who is Governor Bello in terms of pedigree, character and integrity to offer Alhaji Abubakar Ibrahim money as was alleged. We’re bold to state that it is a known fact that the top contender to the seat of governor in the state is a man of impeccable character.
“We, therefore, ask those behind the fiction to bury their heads in shame as Alhaji Abubakar Ibrahim will pursue his case to a logical conclusion.
“While the wheel of justice may be slow, Alhaji Abubakar Ibrahim wish to restate that come November, the PDP will win overwhelmingly and by the grace of God take over the leadership of the state in January 2020.”
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The new Modern Greek Language Curriculum – Checkpoint B’ is an excellent edition intended for students of the intermediate level. Its structure and content enhances and complements that of Checkpoint A’ Curriculum, published in 2012, by offering a vast majority of topics and thematic units appropriate for the preparation of students for the annual Comprehensive Examination in Modern Greek, which is administered in June of each year.
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Could the Great Game in Asia shift from Afghanistan to Balochistan? According to watchers of the complex geostrategic region, including a former general of Pakistan’s army, it already has.
As the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor begins to take shape, the troubled province of Balochistan could become a flashpoint for regional competition.
Could the Great Game in Asia shift from Afghanistan to Balochistan? According to watchers of the complex geostrategic region, including a former general of Pakistan’s army, it already has. With rising political tension in the region, brought to the fore by the ambitious China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), the central players, Pakistan and China, are contending with many unexpected factors, including India.
Balochistan is one of the least developed and most troubled areas of Pakistan, having witnessed regular insurgencies and military campaigns. Several militant separatist groups are responsible for various attacks against Pakistani security forces and construction workers. In addition, Balochistan has seen numerous attacks by Islamist militant groups, including the August bombing of the government hospital in the province’s capital Quetta, which was carried out by Pakistani Taliban groups.
The government and military have also been implicated in human rights violations in Balochistan, with Human Rights Watch accusing Pakistani security forces of “continue[ing] to unlawfully kill and forcibly disappear suspected Baloch militants and opposition activists in 2015”. In reaction to the suicide bombing in Quetta, European Parliament member Alberto Cirio urged the international community “to take notice of a situation created due to years of concerted government use of extremist groups as proxies against political activists, journalists and intellectuals.”
Balochistan’s troubles stem from its fraught history and many paradoxes. After the Partition of India, the province, which comprised of four princely states and was guaranteed independence, was forcefully occupied by Pakistan in 1948. It constitutes half of the country’s landmass, but only 3.6 per cent of its total population. It is rich in natural resources, like oil, gas, copper and gold, and yet it is one of the poorest regions of the country. The Baloch insurgency, a result of ethnic nationalism, peaked in the 1970s, at the time of the creation of Bangladesh. It was repressed by the Pakistani state until recently, when the conflict shifted to a battle for control of the region’s rich resources, at the centre of which lies the CPEC.
Islamabad hopes that the region will become a major trading hub, linking the deepwater port of Gwadar with the Western Chinese province, Xinjiang, via the CPEC. The CPEC could be a major driver of employment for those underdeveloped regions. However, several observers in Pakistan interviewed by ECFR experts recently warn that the CPEC might exploit Balochistan rather than develop it, while the government in Islamabad and other provinces benefit the most. Increasingly, the CPEC has been a target for domestic political opposition in Pakistan, amid fears that the $46 billion package of Chinese investment will be distributed inequitably and fail to benefit those communities, which need it most -in particular Balochistan, but also Gilgit-Baltistan and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
“The problem so far is that Chinese investment is focused on monumental infrastructure and not on rural development”, ECFR was told by an academic in Pakistan, and that “the locals have no role” in CPEC. The latter refers not only to including local voices in the decision-making process of CPEC but also failing to include local people in newly created jobs.
One of the dilemmas might be the lack of skilled and educated people in such underdeveloped regions. Estimates of CPEC creating up to two million jobs may be exaggerated but, nevertheless, there will be newly created job opportunities in fields ranging from construction and engineering to architecture and IT. The question, however, is how many Baloch (or other minorities) are educated and skilled enough to qualify for these new jobs.
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PRS Design
Banksy’s Influences
November 17, 2018 May 3, 2018 Aggiearts & culturebanksys, influences
Acts alone do not assist in the promotion or prevention of a culture from going to rack and destroy. The Google Arts & Tradition app was already an incredible free method to recognize art work around the world, permitting users to virtually discover more than 1,000 museums and search for artwork by category and artist. Museums: Wimbledon has a terrific history. The History: You do not have to have an architecture diploma or be an knowledgeable in artwork to know that places like Rome, Milan, and Copenhagen are stuffed with visible enchantment.
7 For instance, the Google Arts & Culture now lets users contribute their very own content material, including their perception to the public collection of information. But loads of apps incorporate social sharing as a characteristic. And naturally; the old city wouldn’t be complete without a historic museum of Amsterdam itself and the maritime museum Nederlands Scheepvaart Museum.
Museums, concerts, theaters and festivals: in Zurich, artwork and tradition lovers can find a vibrant cultural scene. Shock, shock: everyone instantly discovered a newfound interest in arts and tradition. The face matching function solely works for sure museums in the intervening time, but Google Arts & Culture has partnerships with many well-known museums world wide, so it’s doubtless that the function will broaden to extra locations sooner or later.
No matter you do, just remember, the people your customers love most besides themselves are their favourite celebrities or social media influencers. The sisters had two very completely different baby bathe experiences, with very different social media footprints.
Google’s Arts & Culture app came out a couple of years in the past. College students pursuing a humanities or architecture diploma, in addition to an arts degree, are some that benefit the most. Art & Tradition is a part of AIA’s philosophy, aiming to protect and highlight the rich cultural heritage of Greece.
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Studying From Performers
What Is Elementary Art Education, And How Does It Profit Our Children?
If Art Lovers Can Discover Bilbao, Why Not Saskatoon?
Artwork, Performing Arts, Music, Structure, Pictures & More
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Tag Archives: Rick Dugdale
CANADIAN PRODUCER RICK DUGDALE TAKES ON MAJOR FILM PROJECTS STARRING OSCAR WINNERS BEN KINGSLEY AND SIR ANTHONY HOPKINS
Dugdale is currently shooting a film trilogy in five European Countries
Rick Dugdale, President and CEO of Enderby Entertainmentis making tremendous strides as a Canadian Producer who is entering the big leagues of movie making, producing multi-million dollar feature films starring A-list actors, all over the world. As CEO, Rick oversees all aspects of the company’s business, finances and production, and spearheads the company’s relationships with its worldwide community of financial partners. Dugdale’s career started in his native British Columbia, where he gained extensive experience in physical production, working at all budget levels in feature film, television commercials and music videos.
Currently, Dugdale is in production in Europe on Enderby’s most ambitious project to date: Three films shot back to back, based on a series of European best sellers by the immensely popular Swedish author Håkan Nesser. The three stand-alone thrillers, adapted by Daniel Alfredson & Ditta Bongenhielm, are stories interconnected by the Café Intrigo, which gives the three films their overall title. The first film, Intrigo: Death of an Author, starring Ben Kingsley, has completed principal photography on location in Belgium and the Balkans. The second film, Intrigo: Dear Agnes starring Carla Juri and Gemma Chan is shooting now; the third, Intrigo: Samaria, will begin shooting immediately, without a break. All three films are directed by Sweden’s Daniel Alfredson (Blackway). Dugdale, on behalf of Enderby, financed and green lit the trilogy, which will be distributed in various territories worldwide by Fox International.
Prior to the Intrigo trilogy, Dugdale produced the psychological thriller An Ordinary Man, in collaboration with actor/producer Ben Kingsley and writer/director/producer Brad Silberling. Dugdale also produced the thriller Blackway, featuring a remarkable cast, including Sir Anthony Hopkins, Julia Stiles, Alexander Ludwig and Hal Holbrook, with Ray Liotta in the title role all shot in Rick’s home town of Enderby, B.C. Directed by Daniel Alfredson the film was feted with a gala world premiere at the 72nd Venice Film Festival ahead of its 2016 release.
Dugdale most recently produced the upcoming film NOMIS – starring Henry Cavill, Ben Kingsley, Alexandra D’Dadario and Stanley Tucci.
Previously for Enderby, Dugdale produced Dawn Patrol, Rosemont and About Cherry (Ashley Hinshaw, James Franco, Heather Graham, Dev Patel). For Tony-Seven Films, Enderby Entertainment’s genre film division, Dugdale served as executive producer on The Speak, Vile and 5 Souls and as producer on A Haunting at Silver Falls, No Tell Motel and Blood Shed. Dugdale also produced Tony Seven Films’ first sequel, the upcoming A Haunting at Silver Falls 2.
In 2003, Dugdale joined Daniel Petrie, Jr. & Company as Vice President, Production before becoming a full partner in the company in 2004. Enderby Entertainment was founded after Dugdale and Petrie observed that many indie films seemed to be made for no better reason than that the resources were available. They set out to create an indie company that put the emphasis back on the story, the creative process, and transparency; and that on the financial side, could thrive. They have not only successfully reached that goal, but are now producing star-studded, high quality film projects internationally, that rival those produced by large Hollywood studios.
Dugdale is particularly proud of Enderby Entertainment’s involvement with the Austin Film Festival and Conference. In 2012, the Austin Film Festival announced the addition of a new “Enderby Entertainment Award” to the festival’s screenwriting competition. The new award is open to feature screenplays in all genres with an original concept and distinctive voice that can be independently produced with a budget under ten million dollars. Finalists and winners are selected by Dugdale and Petrie.
Dugdale is a proud member of the Producers Guild of America and the Directors Guild of Canada.
About Enderby Entertainment
Los Angeles-based Enderby Entertainment most recently released the Electric Entertainment release BLACKWAY, starring Anthony Hopkins, Julia Stiles, Alexander Ludwig, Ray Liotta and Hal Holbrook and directed by the acclaimed Swedish filmmaker Daniel Alfredson. They are currently in postproduction on AN ORDINARY MAN starring Ben Kingsley and directed by Brad Silberling, to be released later this year. Producer Rick Dugdale and writer-director-producer Daniel Petrie, Jr founded Enderby Entertainment in 2006.
For more information, visit EnderbyEntertainment.com.
For interviews, on set stills and set visits please contact:
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AF Sports
How would you like to reach 2 million customers?
You can introduce new products, develop long-term relationships and increase brand awareness by being a sponsor of Air Force MWR (Morale, Welfare and Recreation) programs.
Air Force MWR programs such as fun runs, Air Shows, musical entertainment and more provide the ideal platform for reaching your target market. As a sponsor you have the ability to reach:
All where they work, live and play!
Air Force customers are well educated and brand loyal with a combined buying power of $17 billion a year! Commercial Sponsorship provides a way for Fortune 500 companies to provide financial &/or in-kind support for MWR programs in exchange for sponsor benefits and access to a grateful military community.
Fly, Fight and WIN … In Air, Space and Cyberspace.
This is the Air Force mission.
The Air Force Services Activity (AFSVA) located in San Antonio, TX provides MWR (Morale, Welfare and Recreation) programs to Airmen and families.
AFSVA supports the bases, major commands and Air Staff by fielding new initiatives, developing procedures and managing central support functions to ensure successful Services programs. Responsibilities include developing procedures to implement policy, preparing responses to high-level inquiries, providing technical assistance to the field, and developing new programs that support major command and installation activities.
AFSVA manages Air Force central nonappropriated funds (NAFs) and operates central systems for field support such as banking, investments, purchasing, data flow, insurance and benefits programs, and the personnel system. Additionally, AFSVA supports the Air Force Morale, Welfare, and Recreation Advisory Board and interacts with other agencies and armed services in areas affecting Services.
The Morale, Welfare, and Recreation (MWR) Program has been recognized as being essential for creating and maintaining the morale of military personnel.
Services programs have long provided essential food, lodging and services for military members. MWR programs were first introduced during the Revolutionary War.
With the establishment of a huge "citizen" army during World War I, the United Services Organization (Inc.) was founded along with programs like library services, troop canteens and sports programs.
In 1920, the Army Motion Picture Service was set up and was soon to be followed by the founding of service clubs later during World War II. Services programs also began during the Revolutionary War, with billeting and food facilities serving as fundamental necessities for military troops. Services' roots sprang from the supply and civil engineering career fields and then branched off as its own entity in 1992.
In 1992, MWR and Services merged Air Force wide, with the new name, the Air Force Morale, Welfare, Recreation and Services Agency. In 1993, the agency was renamed "Services," reflecting the merger's success and focusing directly on what their programs are all about -- service. Whatever the name or organization, the Services mission remains the same: to deliver programs and activities to build and sustain ready and resilient Airmen and families.
Using a variety of marketing tools we are able to customize opportunities for your brand.
This will ensure the best exposure to your target market and
increase the value of your sponsorship experience.
Our team of marketing professionals stands ready to help you reach one of the most dynamic markets in the country through a variety of marketing channels associated with one of our many MWR programs." Download an overview here.
Numerous Benefits
With Commercial Sponsorship as an Integral Piece of Your Business Strategy, You Can:
Build new and strengthen existing customer relationships
Be part of a global marketing campaign
Conduct product sampling
Integrate sales promotions into your sponsorship
Signage and Promotional Materials
Program promotional materials are strategically placed in high-traffic locations where they reach thousands of our Air Force community members daily.
Print and Digital Media
Many Air Force bases have monthly publications, all have web sites and many have digital media. These platforms allow us to target specific groups where key messages can reach your ideal market.
Product Sampling and Demonstration
Place your product directly in the hands of your target market through sample distribution or displays. Arrangements can be made for on-site sampling, demonstrations and coupon distribution in conjunction with event/program promotion.
Due to Department of Defense policy only Air Force MWR programs are eligible for commercial sponsorship support. Additionally, no one in the military is permitted to solicit donations. However, if you are interested in offering a donation to our Airmen and want more information, please contact us.
Although we can provide sampling opportunities and even facilitate sales promotions through our food and beverage operations, we aren’t a retail outlet. For large distribution channels, please contact the Exchange (Army, Air Force Exchange Service) or the Defense Commissary Agency (DeCA). Additionally, if you came to our site looking for a sponsor, we encourage you to reach out to your local military recruiter. If you or your team or event meets their marketing objectives, they may be able to help. Lastly, we work closely with our counterparts in the Army, Navy and Marines. If you want to reach all branches of service, we are happy to work a joint program or point you in the right direction.
Our Active Market
*based on 2014 customer counts
So who exactly are these special warriors? Simply stated, they are men, women, husbands, wives, fathers, mothers and sons and daughters. They buy, sell, trade and contribute close to $17 billion annually to the consumption of goods and services. They are one of the most financially stable market segments in the country.
Download the 2014 Air Force Recreational Study here.
We Are American Airmen:
Wingmen, Leaders, Warriors
Air Force Sports
The Air Force Sports program provides opportunities for active duty, National Guard and Reserve personnel to participate at Air Force, Armed Forces, national and international level sporting events. Additionally, elite athletes train and compete at national and international levels with the ultimate goal of selection to the U.S. Olympic team.
Why would that be important to you?
Image is everything. Air Force athletes train hard and consistently excel in their sport. Sponsors that support the AF Sports program are associated with winners. As a sponsor, you have direct access to sports enthusiasts who can appreciate your product line. Your marketing message will reach our market through a series of media channels with professional marketing support at all levels of execution.
Benefits Available Include:
Banner placement
Product sampling
Advertising on MyAirForceLife.com
Your brand on shirts, sport accessories, etc
Cross promotion in Army Air Force Exchange (AAFES) retail locations
So Many Sports. So Many Champions. So Many Sponsorship Opportunities.
Learn more about Air Force Sports or contact us for more information.
We are public servants who value integrity first, service before self, and excellence in all we do.
Open House Air Shows
The Air Force hosts open houses to enhance the public awareness of Air Force preparedness, demonstrate modern weapon systems and capabilities, and generate interest in the military and its role in national security. Not only is an Air Force open house, a community relations event that highlights the mission, resources and personnel of the host base, it can also be a great way to showcase your product or service.
Mark you calendars for the upcoming opportunties at Air Force Installations that will be hosting Open House Air Shows in the coming months:
February 18, 2018 Daytona 500, Daytona Beach, Florida (Flyover)
March 10-11, 2018 Luke AFB, Arizona - "Luke Air Force Base Airshow"
March 17-18, 2018 Melbourne, Florida - "Melbourne Air & Space Show"
March 24-25, 2018 Dobbins ARB, Georgia - "Dobbins Air Reserve Base"
April 7-8, 2018 March ARB, California - "March Field Air & Space Expo: Thunder Over the Empire"
April 14-15, 2018 Lakeland, Florida - "Sun-N-Fun Fly-In Expo"
April 21-22, 2018 Columbus AFB, Mississippi - "Wings over Columbus"
April 28, 2018 JB Charleston, South Carolina - "Joint Base Charleston Air Show"
May 5-6, 2018 Fort Lauderdale, Florida - "Fort Lauderdale Air Show"
May 12, 2018 Laughlin AFB, Texas - "Laughlin AFB Open House
May 19-20, 2018 Langley AFB, Virginia - "Airpower Over Hampton Roads"
May 23, 2018 USAF Academy, Colorado
May 26-27, 2018 Cannon AFB, New Mexico - "Cannon AFB Air Show Air Commandos on the High Plains"
June 2-3, 2018 Mountain Home AFB, Idaho - "Gunfighter Skies"
June 9-10, 2018 Niagara Falls, New York - "Thunder Over Niagara Military Air Show"
June 16-17, 2018 Ocean City, Maryland - "OC Air Show"
June 23-24, 2018 Hill AFB, Utah - "Warriors Over the Wasatch"
June 30-1 July, 2018 JB Elmendorf, Alaska - "Arctic Thunder Open House"
July 7-8, 2018 Duluth, Minnesota - "Duluth Air Show"
July 14-15, 2018 Westover ARB, Massachusetts - "Great New England Air Show and Open House"
July 21-22, 2018 Milwaukee, Wisconsin - "Milwaukee Air & Water Show"
July 25, 2018 Cheyenne, Wyoming - "Frontier Days Air Show"
July 28-29, 2018 Latrobe, Pennsylvania - "Westmoreland County Air Show"
August 4, 2018 Minot AFB, North Dakota - "Minot AFB"
August 18-19, 2018 Chicago, Illinois - "60th Annual Chicago Air & Water Show"
August 22, 2018 Atlantic City, New Jersey - "Thunder Over the Boardwalk"
August 25-26, 2018 Ypsilanti, Michigan - "Thunder Over Michigan Air Show"
September 1-3, 2018 Toronto, Canada - "Canadian International Air Show"
September 8-9, 2018 McConnell AFB, Kansas - "McConnell Open House"
September 15-16, 2018 New Windsor, New York - "New York Air Show"
September 22-23, 2018 Mather, California - "California Capital Air Show"
September 29-30, 2018 Salinas, California - "California International Airshow"
October 6-7, 2018 Baltimore, Maryland - "Maryland Fleet Week and Air Show Baltimore"
October 13-14, 2018 Fort Worth, Texas - "Fort Worth Alliance Air Show"
October 20-21, 2018 Huntington Beach, California - "Huntington Beach"
October 27-28, 2018 Little Rock AFB, Arkansas - "Little Rock AFB"
November 3-4, 2018 Homestead ARB, Florida - "Wings Over Homestead ARB"
November 10-11, 2018 Nellis AFB, Nevada - "Aviation Nation Open House"
All dates are tentative and subject to change.
If your business strategy includes increasing BRAND RECOGNITION, an Air Force Open House is a GREAT place to start! Contact us to learn more.
We are an innovative adaptive responsive organization indispensable to the success of the Air Force mission
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To tap into our two million member market contact us today!
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Cannabidiol, or CBD, is switching minds within the health that is natural health sphere due to the growing set of healthy benefits, including rest from PMS. It’s a dynamic element present in cannabis, but don’t allow the association with weed trick you. You won’t obtain the mind-altering high as it contains small to none for the main psychoactive component, THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol). Alternatively, the oil, that is removed through the cannabis plant and combined with carrier natural natural oils like almond or coconut, has been confirmed to greatly help with pain alleviation, during the early phases of research.
How CBD helps with PMS
Because of this, a lot of women are turning to it designed for assistance with PMS symptoms, including mood swings. “once I first started using CBD, it had been game changer,” claims ny professional Karla Vitrone. “It works very well whenever ovulating that is you’re feel much more anxiety. I discovered me totally switch off and transition to night that it helped. It certainly makes you feel totally calm and it has none for the unwanted effects of cannabis, that has been my biggest fear as I have a small kid and I also didn’t desire to feel ‘high’ or have negative unwanted effects. It’s actually subtle.”
Ana Reyes, a designer whom works well with the US-based CBD business Wildflower, agrees. “For PMS (and periodic anxiety that is generalised, we find CBD makes me feel more relaxed, with fewer headaches and anxious ideas, a huge decline in swift changes in moods and an over-all sense of well-being. Additionally, it is a effective anti-inflammatory therefore it’s helpful with cramps aswell.”
Technology backs both women up – whilst not especially testing for PMS, there has been studies that demonstrate CBD has already established excellent results with those struggling with depression and anxiety.
What’s more, it could be helpful managing cramps, too, based on Dr Julie Holland, whoever back ground is with in psychopharmacology and it is the writer regarding the Pot Book , a non-profit task that helps to invest in healing cannabis research. “CBD could be greatly useful in dealing with the irritability and vexation which comes through the premenstrual stage of our rounds. Given that http://www.cbdoilworld.org it has strong anti-anxiety properties and it is a muscle mass relaxer, it will also help because of the overall stress, both physical and psychic, in addition to menstrual cramps that will come later on,” she claims.
And people irritating spots that are hormonal? CBD can provide hope: its proven properties that are anti-inflammatory been discovered to settle down outbreaks and lower sebum manufacturing.
The science behind CBD
So just how does it work? Your body possesses its own endocannabinoid system (ECS) and internal cannabis receptors (the body’s cannabinoid that is internal ended up being named following the plant, which generated the finding within the 1980s). You will find cannabinoid receptors through the human body – through the mind and main neurological system to the gut, connective cells and nerves – and they make use of the endocannabinoid system being a homeostatic regulator, which means that the human body is attempting to keep a state of stability in most its cells. In an indication of just how which should feel, researchers called one of many key endocannabinoids ‘anandamide’ – sanskrit for bliss.
So how exactly does CBD oil easily fit in to this? Well, interestingly, scientists have discovered that taking CBD oil promotes the body’s own internal cannabinoids to operate more effectively – helping to reduce anxiety and inflammation within its very own cells.
And whilst further scientific studies are required into applications for women’s health specifically (is not it always), experts have discovered that people who suffer from endometriosis also provide lower levels of cannabinoid receptors, leading professionals to declare that CBD oil can offer rest from the situation.
All this work is sold with an email of caution that as yet the study into CBD is certainly not complete; while there have been plenty of anecdotal evidence across the utilization of CBD for PMS symptoms, plus some research into treatment, Dr Holland points available to you there never have yet been double-blind, placebo-controlled studies to the subject, also it’s crucial to test along with your physician, qualified nutritionist or natural medicine practitioner first that CBD is right for you personally.
So when it comes to selecting brands, Andy Sun from Wildflower (that will be presently only for sale in the US) cautions, “there are numerous CBD that is new therefore it’s essential to complete pursuit.
“It is obviously a sign that is good the business takes the full time to supply Non-GMO hemp this is certainly naturally grown, with no usage of fertilizers or pesticides. Additionally it is essential to locate CBD products made out of full-spectrum (or whole-plant/CBD-rich) extracts. Studies suggest that full-spectrum CBD is more effective than CBD isolate. Finally, to assure the quality and persistence associated with item, organizations that use third-party labs to evaluate their products or services should be able to make certain that customers have the purest CBD.”
Where you should purchase
The usa is way ahead associated with UK when it comes to stockists – “It’s super common in NYC, and is extremely normal to see placed in components in smoothies,” Karla says. But right away of the season Holland & Barrett became the initial high-street store to stock medical cannabis oil into the UK, and a unique CBD-dedicated boutique has exposed in Camden, London, while Moody stocks Nature’s Plus phytocannabino >.
The word that is final
The existing research, whilst not clearly dedicated to PMS, definitely appears to declare that it’s worth a shot if you’re looking for something natural and effective for your PMS-busting toolkit. “It’s an exciting time for CBD oil,” Andy says. “Every time, there are many more studies in regards to the potential medical and daily health applications for CBD (and cannabis as a whole), whether or not to treat particular medical ailments or even assist in improving your emotional, physical, and health that is mental. Needless to say, these new studies tend to be confirming the anecdotal, lived experiences of several cannabis-smart consumers.
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MIND, WORKOUT 11th January 2017
Retirement or Iron Man? Rewriting the rules on aging and performance
Retirement (R) = rest (r) + relaxation (r)
Algebra does a good job summing up how most people perceive life after work; Florida’s real estate market would cease to exist, otherwise. But not all retirees think alike. There are some who refuse to let their age dictate their potential. Meet the athletes who prove that age, truly is, just a number.
Ed Whitlock, 85, Ontario, Canada: The oldest person to run 26.2 miles in under four hours.
Photo credit: Nathan Denette/Canadian Press
Ed Whitlock is a wonder of science. At age 85 his trophy cabinet is enough to make Jordan blush. He is the oldest person to run a marathon in under four hours, and the only person over 70 to complete a marathon in under three hours.
His endurance levels track the equivalent of a college athlete who plays recreational sport, and his VO2 max: the measure of an individual’s aerobic fitness, makes him a statistical outlier for his age-group. The average VO2 max for someone in their eighties is 20, Whitlock scored 54.
According to Scott Trappe, director of the human-performance laboratory at Ball State University, Whitlock’s physiology is nothing short of ‘phenomenal’.
So what gives? How has a retired engineer from the outskirts of Toronto become the world’s best athlete for his age?
It’s worth pointing out that Whitlock is genetically gifted. He runs with a perfect gait and tested for abnormally high levels of muscle retention; crucial prerequisites for any runner, let alone an octogenarian.
But it takes more than good genes to truly master one’s craft.
Whitlock takes a simple approach to training: a solo runner, never part of a pack and never received coaching. His training sessions consist of laps around a cemetery which are usually three hours long, multiple times a week. With no fitness gadgets attached to him, Whitlock prefers to just get it done.
Whatever it is, this 85-year-old has scientists equally puzzled and amazed.
Peggy McDowell-Cramer, 75, Santa Monica, Ca. Ironman’s oldest female competitor.
Photo Credit: www.ironman.com
It may surprise you to know that Peggy McDowell-Cramer only started racing Ironman competitions when she was 51. Twenty-four competitions later (once crowned winner), she became the oldest female competitor last year, aged 75.
In October, she finished the course in 17 hours and 8 minutes but was the ONLY female to have entered in the 75-79 age group. For this reason alone, she deserves everyone’s medal!!
Peggy completed a 1hr28min swim, an 8-hour bike ride, and whole marathon in 6hr59mins. Just reading that is enough to scare me!
So is Peggy, the 75-year-old Ironman veteran, super human? She wouldn’t say so. Much of her success rides off her spirituality; she has been a Presbyterian minister for 30 years and credits this for getting her to the finish line on more than one occasion.
“The closest thing I have to a mantra is probably saying to myself, ‘Lord, please just get me there!'”
As a firm believer in balance, her training revolves around her life, not the other way around, as is common in a sport such as Ironman. But when she does train, McDowell modifies her program to reduce stress on her joints and minimize the risk of injury. She spends more time doing laps in the pool than running.
The stories of Ed Whitlock and Peggy McDowell-Cramer are delightful and inspiring. Their achievements are reshaping how scientists perceive age-related performance. Whether you’re retired, in the prime of your twenties or a middle-aged mom of three, Ed and Peggy prove that you are capable of more than you know. Now, go sign up for that Spartan!!!!
As always, pushing for health.
Photo credits: NYTimes and Slowtwitch.com
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Autograph Letter Signed, "L C Dunsterville", soldier, inspiration for Kipling's 'Stalky', to an unnamed correspondent [agent prob.], about the manuscript of 'Stalky's Reminiscences'. (pubd. 1928).
[L.C. Dunsterville] Lionel Charles Dunsterville CB, CSI (1865–1946), British general, who led the so-called Dunsterforce across present-day Iraq and Iran towards Caucasus and oil-rich Baku
[Address partly in relief] 9 Place Leopold, Namur, Belgium, 28 January 1927.
Two pages, 12mo, bifolium, punchhole top left, good condition, text clear and complete. "I have sent to first half of my M.S. to a friend to read & he will forward it on to you very shortly. | Should the book be accepted for publication you will let me have a copy of any proposed agreement, before settling terms. | | Yours truly ..." Note on recto of second leaf, "Book sent to F.P. Rennie Esqre, 58 Queens Gate SW7".
Military and Naval History
DUNSTERFORCE
STALKY
Part of Autograph Letter Signed Theodore Dreiser, American Novelist [correspondent unknown].
Theodore Dreiser, American Novelist
No surviving place of date.
Final 4 lines of a letter signed by Dreiser, on paper cut from original, 15 x 9cm, good condition: [proofs?]. And I shall be only too glad to acknowledge in one of the [first?] copies your courtesies.
[Printed Card] Members of the Friday Club Instituted in June 1803 (members including Scott, Francis Jeffrey, Henry Cockburn)
[Sir Walter Scott; Edinburgh Select Club]
[Edinburgh, c.1827]
Cardc.10 x 14cm, prob. whiet or cream originally but discoloured now, printed text clear and complte, on the recto a list of members from 1803 Sir James Hall to [1827] William Murray, giving as shown the year of admission (mainly 1803). On the verso, the dates for the Friday Club dinners Jan.1828 to Jan.1829 are given. The List of Mmebers is annotated in pencil, adding titles, occasionally professions (Adm., WS, Poet). At the top of the recto, A Copy of this Appears in Lockhart's Life of Sir Walter Scott.
English manuscript translations of three 'Moral Tales from the Original German of Augustus Lafontaine translated by J Powell [James Powell of the Custom House)] Vol III', titled 'The noblest Man', 'The Intrigue' and 'The Power of Conscience'.
August Lafontaine (1759-1831), author; James Powell of the Custom House (and Newington Place, Surrey), translator
Circa 1804 (date of watermark). London?
4to, 134 pp. In original loose grey wraps, with 'Moral Tales | Vol III' in manuscript on front. Texts clear and complete, with numerous manuscript emendations. Fair, on aged paper, with slight creasing to corners of a few leaves. Wraps worn. Comprising 34 bifoliums (watermarked 'RW | KENT'), with a single leaf (watermarked 'TW | 1804') carrying the title 'Moral Tales. | from | the Original German of Augustus Lafontaine | translated | by | J Powell | Vol III | Contents of Vol III | The noblest Man. | The Intrigue | The Power of Conscience'.
Romantics
Autograph Letter Signed ('George Henry Glasse') from the classical scholar Rev. George Henry Glasse [to the editor of the Gentleman's Magazine John Nichols], offering his services 'as corrector of your press for any quantity of Greek'.
Rev. George Henry Glasse (1761-1809), classical scholar, son of Dr Samuel Glasse (1734-1812) [John Nichols (1745-1826), editor of the Gentleman's Magazine; John Milton; James More]
7 June 1791; Hanwell Rectory, Middlesex.
4to, 1 p. 18 lines of text. Clear and complete. Fair, on aged and lightly-stained paper. Neatly laid down on a leaf removed from an album. Lightly marked-up in red pencil by the recipient. After professing respect for Nichols's 'literary character' and his 'valuable miscellany', Glasse offers his services 'as corrector of your press for any quantity of Greek you may incidentally have occasion to publish'.
EIGHTEENTH
GENTLEMAN'S
[Pamphlets; part issues] The Bards and Authors of Cleveland and South Durham, pt I & II (of 12)
George Markham Tweddell, author of Shakspear: His Times and Contemporaries
Stokesley: Published by the Author, 1864 (later published by John Russell Smith)..
Parts I & II (of 12 = Series 1), pp.40[6 advts]; 76[6 advts], original blue wraps, frayed and spotted, one wrap dulled, one corner of pages turned, pencil annotation on front covers (inc. library no.), library stamps (withdrawn from Newcastle University Library),
A Book of Counsels for Girls. Published under the direction of the Tract Committee.
Mary Bell, Victorian novelist, author of 'By Northern Seas' (1897)
London: Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge. [1888.]
12mo, 96 pp, followed by four-page SPCK catalogue (with first page listing works by the Rev. F. Bourdillon). Text clear and complete. In original olive cloth binding, gilt, stained with damp. Damp damage at rear leaving light staining to corners of last few leaves and catalogue, together with heavier damage to rear endpapers. Traces of Library label on front pastedown. Cloth faded, worn and stained. Bell explains in her preface that 'The poor are excellently well provided with all sorts of books of counsel and help.
[Specimen copy for the Plates only] The Marchioness of Brinvilliers
Albert Smith, illustrator John Leech
London: Richard Bentley & Son, 1886
pp.1-10 text, 15 detached plates with tissue-guards (as called for), text (concluding mid-sentence, bound in to grey-blue printed wraps, reinforced spine, 2 closed tear, chipped and sunned. Full quotation of title om front wrap: Specimen copy for the Plates only | The Marchioness of Brinvilliers | By | Albert Smith | Illustrated by John Leech | [Bentley insignia] | With fifteen spirited full-page Etchings on Steel, only once before printed from,* onthe first publication of the story, in its serial | form, about 1842. | *Besides twenty-seven impressions for the Leech Catalogue.
[Prospectus of the Biographia Britannica Literaria WITH] An Essay on the State of Literature and Learning under the Anglo-Saxons; Introductory to the First Section of the Biographia Britanica Literaria of the Royal Society of Literature
4; [iv],112pp., 8vo, plain brown wraps (original?), worn and nearly detached, contents good. Inscribed on half-title: Presented to the Rt Honble the Lord Brougham & Vaux by his obedt Servt Wm. Tooke | Russell Square 6 Augt 1839. Tooke was the major promoter of the Biographia Britannica Literaria.
BIOGRAPHIA
Prospectus for Oxberry's 'New English Drama', to be published [1812] by Simpkin and Marshall, as well as for 'The British Drama' and 'Dramatic Works published by C. Chapple, Pall Mall, and W. Simpkin and R. Marshall, Stationers Court'.
William Oxberry (1784-1824), of the Theatre Royal, Drury Lane [Simplin and Marshall, Stationers Court; C. Chapple, Pall Mall; Philip Massinger]
'On December 1 [1812], will be Published, by W. Simplin and R. Marshall, Stationers-court [London]'. [From the Press of W. Oxberry & Co, 8, White-hart-yard, Drury-lane.]
12mo, 4 pp. Bifolium. Stabbed as issued. On good wove paper. The 'New English Drama' is stated to be 'intended to comprise the most popular Theatrical Pieces of every description, in Monthly Parts of superior accuracy and unrivalled embellishment'. The first play, 'embellished with an elegantly engraved portrait of Mr. Kean', is Massinger's 'New Way to pay Old Debts'. The second leaf of the bifolium carries details of a further four works.
MASSINGER
OXBERRY
SIMPKIN
Original unpublished autograph poem illustrated and illuminated in colours by Mary Ellen Parker [later Mary Ellen Rose], daughter of the Victorian judge Sir James Parker, a spoof on Sir Walter Scott entitled 'The Lady of the Lake-Coloured Baton.'
Mary Ellen Parker (1836-1921), daughter of Sir James Parker (1803-1852), Vice Chancellor of the High Court, and his wife Mary Babington [the Darroch family of Cheltenham]
[Regent's Park, London.] 'Cheltenham, 24 April 1848.'
12mo, 55 pp. Good, on lightly-aged paper. Most pages ruled with red lines. Texts of poem and preface, in a number of different-coloured inks, on right-hand side, with the facing reverses carrying corresponding notes and half a dozen charming vignettes (woman at writing desk, cabman dying of apoplexy at dinner, his widow atop the moving hearse). In original quarter binding of cream paper boards with gold star design, and red leather spine; decorative printed endpapers (rear free endpaper lacking). A well-executed and extremely attractive item.
Engraving by John Tenniel, from 'Punch' for 1867, titled 'Check to King Mob'. With caption referring to 'the London mob of would-be conspirators and sympathisers with revolutionary plots' and the attempt by the Fenians to blow up Clerkenwell Prison.
Sir John Tenniel (1820-1914), illustrators [Punch, or the London Charivari; Fenians; revolutionary plots]
From "Punch, or the London Charivari", November 30, 1867.
On paper roughly 33 x 25.5 cm. The illustration itself is clear and complete on lightly-aged paper. Creasing around extremities and to left of caption. Tenniel's monogram, with number 61, in bottom left-hand corner. Britannia grips King Mob by the throat, while a paper crown (with 'MOB LAW' written on it) falls from his head.
FENIANS
TENNIEL
Original engraving by John Tenniel, for 'Punch, or the London Charivari', October 1867, titled 'The Order of the Day; or, Unions and Fenians.'
Sir John Tenniel (1820-1914), illustrators [Punch, or the London Charivari; Fenians; Trade Unions; revolutionary plots]
From 'Punch, or the London Charivari', 12 October 1867.
On paper 52 x 33 cm. Tenniel's monogram, with number 58, in bottom left-hand corner. An giant female figure, with black mask, blazing torch and sash on which is written 'MURDER', directs an assemblage of Fenians and Sheffield trade unionists. The caption reads 'Fenian conspiracies and outrages in Ireland and Manchester - co-incident with the revelations of murderous Trade-unionism at Sheffield and elsewhere - agitated the public mind, and seemed like an evocation of the Spirit of Slaughter to trample on the Law.
[Printed pamphlet.] England's Bards, 1864; or, The Three Poems which were awarded the one hundred guineas offered as prizes in the advertisement "Ho! For a Shakespeare!" which appeared about the time of Shakespeare's Tercentenary Anniversary.
[The Manufacturers of Thomson's Crinolines; 'William Fulford'; 'Peter Quince'; William Shakespeare; Day and Son, Lithographers to the Queen; the Shakespeare Tercentenary Anniversary Celebrations]
London: Day and Son, Lithographers to the Queen, and to H.R.H. the Prince of Wales, Gate Street, Lincoln's Inn Fields, 1864.
8vo, 16 pp. Unbound. Evidence of previous stitching, but with no remains of thread,. Aged, worn, and with outer leaves somewhat dusty. Preface, dated 'London, June 1864', by 'THE MANUFACTURERS OF THOMSON'S CRINOLINES', states that the judges of the best of 'the immense number of manuscripts received' were 'B. Webster, Esq., J. Sterling Coyne, Esq., Andrew Halliday, Esq., George Rose, Esq., and Thos.
THOMSON'S
[Printed handbill.] New Version of the House that Jack Built. [Parallel texts, with the 'old version' in one column, and the 'new version', in circumfluous language, in another.]
[Victorian parody of 'The House that Jack Built']
[Without date or place.] [Late Victorian?]
8vo, 1 p. Text clear and complete. Fair, on thin aged paper, laid down on a sheet of backing. In small type, with the 'old version' of the nursery rhyme, in the left hand column, transformed into a 'new version' of 78 lines of prose in the right-hand column. The first line - 'This is the house that Jack built' - is changed into 'This is the domiciliary edifice erected by John.' The 'priest all shaven and shorn' becomes 'the ecclesiastical gentleman, the summit of whose pericranium was denuded of its natural covering'. Scarce: no copy in the British Library or on COPAC.
[Printed offprint of poem by J. H. Nightingale.] The "Four Liverpool Merchants" and their Letter to the Hempror Napoleon.
J. H. Nightingale ['Joe Nightingale'] [Liverpool Daily Post, 1859]
From the Liverpool Daily Post of Dec. 6, 1859.
On one side of a piece of paper 27.5 x 11.5 cm. Text, in small type, clear and complete. Fair, on aged and lightly-creased paper.
LANCASTRIAN
NINTEENTH
Long Typed Letter Signed ('Mabel Esther Allan') by the children's writer Mabel Esther Allan ['Jean Estoril'] to 'Miss Gilbert', responding in detail to her questions regarding her writing.
Mabel Esther Allan (1915-1998), English children's writer under the pseudonyms 'Jean Estoril', 'Priscilla Hagon' and 'Anne Pilgrim'
19 March 1965; Glengarth, Oldfield Way, Heswall, Wirral, Cheshire.
4to, 5 pp. Text clear and complete. Good, on aged and folded paper. An highly interesting and significant letter, responding thoughtfully and in detail to questions posed by Gilbert (author, according to Allan, of the 'special study, "Children and Reading"'). Begins by responding to the question 'Why do I write for children?' Considers that children's books 'are at least a minor form of art [...] I am a professional author. I have published more than eighty books, all but one for young people. But every book I have written has been written because I wanted to write it, for myself.
Autograph Letter Signed ('J. C. Ewing.') from James Cameron Ewing, Librarian, Baillie's Institution, Glasgow, to the London auctioneers Sotheby, Wilkinson, and Hodge, discussing an edition of Burns's poems.
James Cameron Ewing (b. 1871), Librarian, Baillie's Institution, Glasgow [Sotheby, Wilkinson and Hodge; Robert Burns]
13 July 1910; on letterhead of Baillie's Institution.
12mo, 3 pp. 28 lines. Text clear and complete. Good, on aged paper. He does not understand how they can have 'a record of a second edition [of Burns's poems] dated 1786, for the book was not published until April 1787'. He describes the two issues of the second edition ('a stinking or a skinking issue') and concludes that he will be glad to hear from them, should they 'meet with a 1786 second edition, or with a copy having the addenda incorporated in the list of subscribers, or one having Roxburgh spelled correctly'.
BAILLIE'S
SOTHEBY
Autograph Letter Signed by 'C. Spencer' of Cobham [member of Lord Spencer's Family?] to an unknown correspondent, mentioning the antiquary John Gough Nichols, and carrying the wax seal
C. Spencer of Cobham [John Gough Nichols (1806-1873), printer and antiquary, editor of the Gentleman's Magazine and of the Herald and Genealogist]
Undated [1860s?].
The letter is of 23 lines, written on the front and back of an opened envelope with the cancelled address of 'John Wickham Flower Esq, Park Hill, Croydon'. In good condition, on aged paper. The rear of the envelope carries a good impression of a red wax seal, and the letter begins: 'My dear Sir, I had written this letter having obtained my object through my friend the York Herald and I still send it on account of the Seal which was the counter seal of Richd Neville Earl of Warwick killed at the battle of Barnet'.
GOUGH
Two manuscript receipts from 1707, in French, for sums of money for the payment to Louis de La Rochefoucauld, Marquis de Roye, Lieutenant-General of the Galleys, of money for rations for the 'Tartane armée', authorised and countersigned.
Louis de La Rochefoucauld, Marquis de Roye, lieutenant-general of the galleys [le Marquis de Roye Lieutenant General des galeres]
France, 1707.
Folio, 4 pp. Both on the same bifolium. All texts clear. On aged and worn paper, with chipping and fraying to extremities. Presumably part of a series of ongoing receipts, as the the first begins in the middle of the preamble '<...> commandement de Monsieur le Marquis de Roye Lieutenant general, | De la somme de deux cent cinquante neuf livres onze sols huit deniers [...]'. The receipts are neatly written out, with two long authorisations in the margins, each bearing the same illegible signature.
ROCHEFOUCAULD
Autograph Letter Signed from 'R. A. Bennet', editor of 'Truth', to 'Osbert' [Burdett], regarding the Irish journalist and politician T. P. O'Connor.
R. A. Bennett, editor of 'Truth' [Thomas Power O'Connor (1848-1929), Irish journalist and proprietor of 'T. P.'s Weekly', founder and first editor of the Sun newspaper; Sir Osbert Sitwell]
11 December 1925; on letterhead of 'Truth' Buildings, Carteret Street, Queen Anne's Gate, London.
12mo, 1 p. Nine lines. Text clear and complete. Good, on lightly-aged paper. Docketed in pencil on reverse 'R. A. Bennett re T. P. O'Connor'. He is enclosing 'the promised note to "T. P". I see that he is ailing and going to the Riviera at an early date, so you had better try and catch him at once.' Bennett had to get the recipient's address from his publishers, as O'Connor left without passing it on.
OSBERT
P.'S
Substantial Autograph Letter Signed from Herbert Palmer to Amy Cruse, discussing in detail the relative merits of his book 'Post-Victorian Poetry' and her 'After the Victorians', with unsigned autograph draft of Cruse's reply.
Herbert Palmer [Herbert Edward Palmer] (1880-1961), English poet [Amy Cruse, English author]
Both Palmer's letter and the copy of Cruse's reply undated [both circa 1938]. Palmer's letter from 22 Batchwood View, St Albans, Herts.
Both items good, on lightly-aged paper. Palmer's letter: 4to, 6 pp. Text clear and complete. He begins by apologising if his letter to her 'sounded very ungracious': 'I was unaware at the time that you had made any acknowledgement to me, and as I have had my brains picked so frequently without acknowledgment (including, of course, plagiarisms from my poems) I was again feeling rather depressed & exasperated'. While describing her book as 'really [...] very good' and 'reliable', he suggests a number of changes, giving examples of 'where we clash'.
DECADENTS
EIGHTEEN-NINETIES
Contemporary and apparently unpublished typescript translation by L. A. Shiffner of 'The Battle of the Waves for Freedom' by Maxim Gorky [Gorki]. Headed 'Forbidden in Russia'. Made on behalf of Mrs Gill's Translating Office, Ludgate Hill, London.
Maxim Gorky [L. A. Shiffner, translator, of Mrs R. V. Gill's Translating Office, Ludgate Circus, London]
[Circa 1910.] With stamp of 'Mrs. Gill, Translating Office, Ludgate Hill, London EC.'
The story on nine numbered 4to pages, with a covering page carrying the title: 'THE BATTLE OF THE WAVES FOR FREEDOM. | By Maxim Gorki.' On the rectos of ten 4to leaves, attached by a brass pin. Text clear and complete at 26 lines to the page. On worn, discoloured paper (watermarked 'CONQUEROR | LONDON'), with loss to extremities. Mrs Gill's purple oblong stamp in bottom left-hand corner of reverse of last leaf: 'Mrs.
GORKI
LUDGATE
SHIFFNER
[Printed] The Soul of Man under Socialism
London, Privately Printed, 1904.
[ii].87pp., printed paper wraps, light brown paper letters in red, No. 78 of 250 copies, on last page date in pencil 12/7/3, sl. chipping and fraying at edges which are sl. sunned
[Pamphlet] Asinus Loquax; or, The Talking Donkey. A Pasquinade.
'A Little Old Man'
Guildford: Printed by Billing and Sons, 1888.
24pp., 12mo, original red paper wraps, sl. chipping and staining, mainly good. From the personal library of Richard Bentley, sometime publisher, for whose House Billing did work. One copy listed on WorldCat, at the BL.
[printed pamphlet] The Edinburgh Annual Register from 1808 to 1823
[Sir Walter Scott; Archibald Constable; Hurst, Robinson; The Edinburgh Annual Register]
Edinburgh, [1823]
12mo, 14pp, disbound, first leaf detached, good condition. Text clear and complete. In which the publishers outline their (historical) policy and ambitions for the various aspects of the periodical, and provide an Index by volume and subject. Sir Walter Scott took an almost proprietorial interest in this periodical. Scarce: COPAC lists NLS copy only (16pp).
Autograph Letter Signed from the Victorian author Gertrude Mary Ireland Blackburne ('Gertrude M Ireland Blackburne'), to 'Mr. Parker', concerning autographs, including those of Charlotte Yonge and James Payne.
Gertrude Mary Ireland Blackburne (b.1861), author, daughter of John Ireland Blackburne (1817-1893), M.P. for South-West Lancashire, 1875-1885 [James Payne; Charlotte Yonge; Richard Monckton Milnes]
15 September 1886; on letterhead of Roodee Lodge, Chester, Lancashire.
12mo, 4 pp. Bifolium. 32 lines. Text clear and complete. Fair, on aged paper. In answer to a request for autographs, she has 'some duplicates somewhere, but tonight I send you only three cards', as she has 'no letters of Miss Yonge that I should like to part with'. She names the authors of the 'three signed postcards' (not present) as: James Payne ('Editor of Cornhill, author of many novels'), Charlotte Yonge and Richard Monckton Milnes, Lord Houghton.
BLACKBURNE
ROODEE
YONGE
Four ink drawings, portraits in the style of Daniel Maclise's illustrations to William Maginn's 'Gallery of Illustrious Literary Characters' in Fraser's Magazine, and possibly depicting John Nichols, Theodore Hook, Percival Bankes and William Jerdan.
[Daniel Maclise; William Maginn; John Nichols; Theodore Hook; William Jerdan; Percival Bankes; Count D'Orsay; David Moir; James Fraser]
London; 1820s and 1830s?
Fraser's Magazine launched in London in February 1830, and to begin with its most popular feature was Maginn's 'Gallery of Illustrious Literary Characters', with illlustrations by Maclise (collected in book form in 1873). The four portraits, all busts, are somewhat reminiscent of those in that work, but must be earlier if the identification of John Nichol, who died in 1828, is correct. The four are on separate pieces of paper, laid down 2 X 2 (with the four sitters looking inwards towards the centre of the page) on a leaf torn from an album.
BANKES
FRASER'S
MACLISE
Maginn
MOIR
[Prospectus or Commemorative Catalogue of] Bentley's Standard Novels & Romances |Bentley's Favourite Novels
[Richard Bentley & Son, publishers].
[New Burlington Street, London], Printed January 1882.
One Hundred Copies only. [16]pp., cr.8vo, sewn as issued, unopened, tastefully printed in brown with decoration on hand-made paper, good condition. Sadleir, in XIX Century Fiction, describes this as A Prospectus of the Standard and Favourite Novels issued in January 1882. Given it's date, I would suggest it's a Commemorative Catalogue of a series which has great significance in publishing history. It gives the information present in Sadleir (II.100-4), but it calls the phantom Second Series (Sadleir) Bentley's Standard Novels. The Re-Issue. 1854-1859?.
[Printed] Index to the Life and Letters of Washington Irving
[Washington Irving; J. Munnings]
London: Richard Bentley, New Burlington Street, 1864.
Separately published from four volume edition (1862-4), pp.308-347, 8vo, printed paper wraps, darkened, wear at spine and corners, minor foxing, mainly good. Bentley (Turner) Index 1110, ascribed to J. Munnings. A bookseller on viaLibri reveals that an index is anticipated in the fourth volume of the Life and Letters published by Bentley, 1862-4. No mention is made of this Index in either COPAC or WorldCat's listings of copies of the Life and Letters. Very scarce.
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The Flu – What Is It Really?
For one to completely understand in Taylor how the flu behaves, they must develop a basic understanding of the difference between a bacterium and a virus. They are both tiny germs capable of invading the human body. Because of their genetic makeup, they are capable of creating different symptoms in response to the way the body reacts to them. Some of the symptoms they create are caused by changes they make to the body on a cellular level.
Over the last 50 years, scientists have developed a thorough system to fight the growth of bacteria by developing antibiotics. It was originally thought in Taylor that antibiotics would have an effect on viral infections. However, research has shown that taking antibiotics while one is infected by a virus could be deeply detrimental to their health. They not only fail to treat the viral infection, but they also increase the risk of developing a secondary bacterial infection.
The flu we experience in Taylor is a viral illness that is contracted from contact with a person who is infected, or by coming into contact with unwashed, infected surfaces. After the virus moves into the body, it lives in the back of the throat. Here, it multiples until it reaches a viral load where it can successfully affect its host.
In Taylor you may notice that the way the virus is transmitted, and its associated mechanisms are similar to those of the common cold. While this may be true, the flu is not the same as a cold, not even on a genetic level. They originate from completely separate viruses, and they mutate in very different rates and methods.
It is true that the common cold and the flu share many of the same symptoms. The common cold will cause an unpleasant, but mild set of symptoms. The flu, on the other hand, causes more severe symptoms and is more likely to cause serious, possibly life threatening complications.
What Class of Virus is The Flu In Taylor?
The flu is categorized as a contagious viral illness affecting the respiratory system. Depending on the strain of the virus, and the immune system of its host, it will cause symptoms ranging from mild to severe. At times, the severe effects it can have on the human body can be fatal, especially if it is not treated by qualified medical professionals.
Because of the potential for developing severe, life-threatening complications, the CDC recommends that people take charge of their own health care and take the right steps to prevent contracting the flu virus. Prevention can be as simple as getting a flu shot every year and following proper health and safety precautions, like washing your hands after touching things, or eating.
Statistics show that between 5% and 20% of the American population contract the flu each year. Unfortunately, out of the people who do not receive the vaccine on an annual basis, 360 people die from flu related complications, or the severity of their symptoms. To make this statistic even more sad, the majority of the fatalities are in children, elderly, and those who are immune compromised in Taylor. The subsection of the immune compromised population most affected are asthmatics, diabetics, and people with heart disease.
Fortunately, scientists in Taylor are constantly looking for ways to better map out the methods in which the flu transmits from one person to another, and the way the virus grows once it does enter the body. Because of their breakthroughs, they are able to provide new information to the public constantly by utilizing the media. Recently, scientific goals have been focused on natural products people can successfully use to prevent contracting the flu, and treat the virus once they have developed symptoms.
What Symptoms Are Experienced with the Flu In Taylor?
People who do contract the flu in Taylor will suffer from unpleasant symptoms. These symptoms can range from high fevers, chills, muscle aches and pains, sore throat, runny and stuffy nose, fatigue, and a dry cough. While these are the most common symptoms, others may experience additional symptoms, like stomach aches, stomach cramps, nausea, vomiting, and even diarrhea. While these additional symptoms are possible in any case, they are more likely to manifest in children than in adults.
People who suffer from a severe case of the flu may experience more severe symptoms. They may develop bacterial pneumonia, sinus infections, painful ear infections, and possible dehydration. These bacterial invasions are typically caused by a weakened immune system trying to fight off the virus, and accidentally allowing bacteria to infiltrate the body.
Where Did the Flu Get Its Name?
The flu received its name as an abbreviation of the virus causing the illness, influenza. The flu is actually a group of respiratory diseases caused by infection by the influenza A. or influenza B. viruses. Both viruses are more active in the winter months, and in the cooler, early part of spring. This pattern has been mapped out scientifically, which makes it easier for medical providers in Taylor to organize prevention and treatment methods for individuals, and groups of individuals.
This scientific research has also pinned down various methods people unknowingly reduce their risk of contracting the virus. For example, people in Taylor who spend more time outside and eat a diet that allows them to take in high amounts of vitamin D directly from being exposed to sunshine during the winter and early spring, have a much lower risk for contracting the flu virus in the event they are exposed to it.
How to Know If You Have the Flu
The common cold and the flu virus usually cycle around communities at the same time. The symptoms of both viruses in Taylor can be very similar, but the symptoms experienced with the flu are a lot worse than the common cold can cause. The common cold will drag you down and make you miserable. The flu will make you miserable to the point where you cannot even drag yourself out of bed.
To date, science has tracked down more than one-hundred strains of the cold virus. Most of these viruses do not mutate past their original form, so the strains are easy to track. The flu virus in Taylor is much more difficult to track down because new strains evolve every couple of years, which makes vaccinating difficult.
Because the strains of flu virus change every few years vaccines must change with them. Developing these vaccines can be extremely difficult because scientists are not able to anticipate exactly what genetic mutations will take place with the flu virus. Because of this, all vaccines are developed using live samples from the previous year’s flu outbreak, which leaves people open to developing a mild case of the virus, even if they have been vaccinated.
How Does the Flu Virus Spread in Taylor?
In Taylor the flu virus spreads from one person to another through infected respiratory secretions. This means that any fluid originating in the mouth or nose could be infected during flu season. These secretions are typically released when someone sneezes or coughs without using the right precautions. Because the flu virus in Taylor is easy to transmit from person to person, any surface these secretions come into contact with can be infected, and become an object of transmission.
Because the virus is easy to transmit, people who live in close quarters are at higher risk for contracting the virus. Classrooms, college dorms, hospitals, nursing homes, and office buildings in Taylor are prime locations to get sick.
Something as simple as coughing into one’s hand, sneezing without covering their mouth and nose, or did not wash their hands before touching services can leave others at risk. Once the surface is infected, all a person must do is touch the surface and then touch near their mouth, near their nose, or anywhere on their face. Even if one touches a doorknob and later rubs their eyes, they are exposing themselves to a hearty dose of the virus.
After being exposed in Taylor, the virus takes between 24-hours to four days to incubate before the person begins to show symptoms.
Taylor the flu virus typically lasts between one to two weeks. Treatment is symptom management and immune support. The majority of people who contract the flu find that their immune system is able to fight it off and heal their body without medical care. However, the body requires plenty of fluids, a lot of rest, medications for fever, and proper nutrition. One should never follow the old wife’s tale of “feed a cold, starve a fever” as it has no scientific basis. In order to properly heal, the body needs plenty of calories and an adequate intake of vitamins and minerals to fight off a virus
If you think you need to go to a local medical clinic, there are a few things you should find out first. Learning some details before you even schedule an appointment can help the visit go smoothly. It can also keep you from wasting your time at an office that cannot help you.
The first thing you should do is find out when you can schedule an appointment. Some offices are more flexible than others when it comes to the schedule, so make sure it is convenient for you. For example, some clinics offer weekend appointments so you do not have to take time off work or school to see a doctor. They might also offer evening visits so you can go after work. Of course, if you can easily take a half-day at work, a more traditional schedule might be fine for you. The same goes if you work nontraditional hours, such as nights and weekends, since an office with weekday hours might be best.
You should also find out if your insurance plan is accepted. Be sure to ask just prior to making the appointment since clinics occasionally change which plans they accept. If you do not have insurance, find out the prices for patients paying cash. This gives you a chance to budget and even compare prices of local clinics so you can afford treatment. If you do not have a lot of cash right now, find out if you can get a payment plan in order to pay it off gradually.
Of course, you also need to make sure you choose a medical clinic that offers the services you need. If you just need to get an issue checked out, and get a referral to a specialist if necessary, a general practitioner may work well. But if you already know the type of specialist to go to, you should choose an office with this type of practitioner. For example, if you have problems with your feet, skin, or heart, each of these has a doctor that specializes in this subject. If you want expert advice that your general doctor cannot offer, you might want to see a specialist. Be sure the medical clinic you choose offer this kind of doctor.
You can find out this information from websites or even phone calls. If your local office features a free first consultation for new patients, you might consider attending one to find out the basic facts. This way, you are prepared for your first actual appointment.
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Most clinics nowadays have their own specialization; meaning, they can be classified according to the specialty of the doctor practicing his profession in it. For instance, clinics ran by clinical psychologist are called psychology clinics; clinics ran by physiotherapists are physiotherapy clinics; clinics that focus on treatments of women who want to get pregnant are called fertility clinics; clinics that provide skin care treatments are dermatological clinics; and so on and so forth. They are called specialty clinics. More often than not, however, when we speak of a medical clinic, most likely we are referring to a general practice that is run by one or several practitioners of general medicine. But what could the general public expect from a medical clinic if, unlike the specialty clinics, its area of specialization is not specified?
It is natural for people who find that they may be suffering a health condition to seek consultation. They would then proceed to a clinic to have some examinations conducted and, if necessary, treatments done. The conditions treated in a clinic range from acute minor illnesses such as back pain, headaches, allergies, sprains or broken bones, respiratory infections and minor lacerations, to chronic conditions which include asthma, diabetes, and high blood pressure. Even immunotherapy, or providing allergy injections, is performed in a medical clinic.
But medical clinics are not all about treating health problems. It also offers preventive care to patients. As more and more people become health conscious, they are often found making their way to a clinic to have their cholesterol levels and blood pressure levels screened. You can also go to these clinics if you are in need of immunization services. Flu shots, tetanus shots, HPV vaccines, and others, can now be made more accessible to patients via these clinics. Did you know that travel vaccines are also available to those who are frequently flying or traveling from one place to another?
Physicals and general check-ups need not be done in large hospitals. But a medical clinic is also fully equipped to accommodate these regular checks. Prior to a major surgery, the patient to be operated on would have to be subjected to some preoperative physical checks. These checks can be done at a medical clinic.
We mentioned specialty clinics earlier; their existence does not preclude the offering of their services in a general medical clinic. In fact, you will find many medical clinics these days that also offer services on men's and women's health. The presence of gynecology clinics does not mean gynecology exams are no longer performed in medical clinics. The same is true for fertility conditions and also issues on sexually transmitted diseases. While it is true that eating disorders often fall under a psychologist's care, people who suffer from them can also approach the practitioners in a medical clinic.
Have you ever wondered about the human resources powering a medical clinic? You will be welcomed by nursing and assistants and be taken care of by nurses and physician assistants. Of course, the ones who would mainly look into your condition and lead the treatment would be the doctors themselves. You can count on these medical professionals to provide topnotch service since they are representing the clinic they work in, just as the professionals in larger facilities or hospitals are also serious in doing their jobs.
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Roosevelt Island Little League Advances In Tournament With NY Yankee Style Win - Wear Down Starting Pitcher, Score On Relievers - Next Game Tonight
Roosevelt Island Little League Team warming up
Reported last week on the return of Little League Baseball to Roosevelt Island and the exciting 12 -11 walk off extra inning win by the Roosevelt Island team. Here's the latest, as of last night, on the Roosevelt Island Little League from Special Correspondent Charlie DeFino, Executive Director of the Roosevelt Island Youth Center.
ROOSEVELT ISLAND YOUTH PROGRAM LITTLE LEAGUE FANS!
On Monday our 9 and 10 years banged out 21 runs on 17 hits to beat the North Riverdale team after wearing down their star pitcher (65 pitch LL limit) to advance to round 4 on Thursday. They will play at 5:30 pm against a gutsy Greenwich Village team also facing elimination at Inwood Hill Park Diamond 6 adjacent to Wien Stadium (Columbia University Field) 218th Street in Northern Manhattan. If you would to support our youth call the Roosevelt Island Youth Program Inc. for directions
Our 11 & 12 year old team played tonight and after battling back from an 8 run deficit to tie the game at 11 had their game suspended because of darkness and be resumed in the top of the 7th (extra innings) down 15 to 11 with no outs and a runner on first. At this time we do not know of the field and game time, we will keep you posted.
Below are some pictures taken by Roosevelt Island resident Don Smith at second game played against the Stuyvesant A team. Unfortunately, Roosevelt Island lost that game 18 to 0.
# 12 Alex (AJ) Franquie is caught stealing 2nd base
# 33 Thomas Guzman 1st base made several excellent catches from infielders
#1 DJ Smith 2nd baseman throws out runner on a ground ball
Grounder To Shortstop
#2 Jaden Perry catches fly ball in center field
Here's the magic of baseball as explained by James Earl Jones in Field Of Dreams.
UPDATE 7/2 - Special Correspondent Charlie DeFino, reports on Thursday's game:
The Roosevelt Island Little league All-Star Team 9 and 10 Division lost Thursday night in Inwood to a feisty Greenwich Village team also facing elimination 7 to 4 in a well played game. The RI youth lost the lead in the 4th inning and squandered opportunities with the bases loaded in the 4th and 5th innings and are eliminated from the Official Little League Tournament with a record of 2-2. The young boys and girls and their coaches deserve a big hand for competing in a tough tournament and representing the Roosevelt Island Youth Program and their community beyond even our high expectations. The team will continue to compete over the summer in other tournaments and exhibition games.
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New Book Helps Transform Industry 4.0 Concepts Into Reality
October 25, 2019 | I-Connect007
Bring your manufacturing practices into the digital age with The Printed Circuit Assembler’s Guide to… Advanced Manufacturing in the Digital Age—the latest title in our educational library. The Printed Circuit Assembler’s Guide to… is an ongoing series dedicated to educating those in the circuit board assembly sector, and serves as a valuable resource for electronics industry professionals seeking the most relevant information available.
Oren Manor from Mentor, A Siemens Business, explores the most important steps to consider when building a digital manufacturing company that transforms Industry 4.0 concepts into reality. Industry 4.0 has the power to drive quantifiable change in the manufacturing industry and transform how companies work, collaborate, and serve their customers; it can also create a positive, cultural shift across an organization.
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CFX Preview at IPC APEX EXPO 2020
01/13/2020 | I-Connect007 Editorial Team
The I-Connect007 Editorial Team chats with IPC’s Chris Jorgensen about the advances CFX has made in the past year and where the standard is in the standardization process. Chris also previews the CFX line that will be on display at the upcoming IPC APEX EXPO and shares IPC’s plans on educating and providing support solutions to potential users of CFX to implement it more easily.
Updates on Cleaning Standards and Committees
Graham Naisbitt of Gen3 discusses the changes he's seeing in cleaning, including how the WP-019 white paper has caused a closer look at electrochemical reliability. As a long-time head of committees, Graham also breaks down many of the topics he hopes are addressed at this year’s IPC APEX EXPO.
LA/Orange County SMTA Expo and Tech Forum Review
12/09/2019 | Dan Feinberg, Technology Editor, I-Connect007
Dan Feinberg recently attended the LA/Orange County SMTA Expo and Tech Forum, which was held in Long Beach, California. He provides an overview of the activities, from the show floor to the presentations.
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Openwashing Report: It’s Getting Worse, Fast. Everything is Apparently ‘Open’ Now Even Though It’s Actually Proprietary.
Posted in Deception, Free/Libre Software at 8:06 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz
Summary: The latest examples (this past week’s) of openwashing in the media, ranging from 5G to surveillance
THE “Openwashing Reports” started last weekend. It was conceived after a reader had sent us feedback (thanks, Christine!) and we hope we can keep it up for years to come. These reports address the growing problem which is the ‘cheapening’ of the term “Open Source” or even the framing of proprietary software as “Open”. OSI isn’t doing anything about it and if nothing gets done (e.g. public shaming at the very least), things will only get worse.
“OSI isn’t doing anything about it and if nothing gets done (e.g. public shaming at the very least), things will only get worse.”We start this report with Datical and Liquibase. We mentioned this last week in passing and days ago Datical was said to be “Furthering Ongoing Commitment to Open Source Community for Database Change” (headline).
What the heck does that even mean? It’s a cheap openwashing stunt. They speak of “community” or “commitment” and “Open Source”. Whose? Not theirs.
More troubling a case of openwashing was this bunch of “Open 5G” “Ecosystems” nonsense from Forbes (a propaganda rag of oligarchs). The press has been openwashing 5G for about a year and it’s doing it again, never mind if 5G is strictly proprietary with additional patent traps (evergreening). Even the so-called ‘standards’ aren’t open. There’s nothing “open” about it and words like “Ecosystems” (in the headline above) are a bit like greenwashing. We expect to see a lot more openwashing such as this; we’ve seen it for months already and pointed this out in our daily links.
“Are they trying to pass off 5G as “Open Source”? Great openwashing right there by surveillance companies.”Telecom openwashing doesn’t quite stop at 5G hype — a curious wave of hype that has already earned notoriety (it’s basically marketing disguised as reporting). Days ago we saw AT&T openwashing and this is noteworthy because of the company’s notorious secrecy (this company is the foremost partner of the NSA in the telecom space, based on several whistleblowers). Dallas Business Journal published this puff piece, reducible to megaphone/loudspeaker of AT&T staff. There was also RCR Wireless News with another puff piece (“Open-source ’5G software infrastructure’ focus of Dell, AT&T partnership”). What on Earth? Are they trying to pass off 5G as “Open Source”? Great openwashing right there by surveillance companies. Truly gross to think it was published to say: “AT&T continues to expand its parnterships with cloud specialists, now working with Dell Technologies to explore open source opportunities for 5G.”
They don’t mean Open Source. Here’s the original press release that it’s apparently based on. The openwashing stunt has a misleading headline which refers to “Open Source Edge Computing”; based on the body it is just “open infrastructure technology,” which is more or less meaningless. “Dell Technologies and AT&T* are jointly exploring the development of key open infrastructure technology areas for the next-generation network edge that will be required by service providers to support new use cases and service opportunities in a cloud-oriented 5G world,” it says.
Whatever “open infrastructure” means…
FierceTelecom joined in, triumphing or championing what it called “open source project” (in the headline even!) and to quote: “Dell Technologies is joining the Airship open infrastructure project, which has been spearheaded by AT&T…”
How did they move from “open infrastructure project” to “open source project” in the headline? It’s either dishonest or grossly negligible. It means that people who look for actual “Open Source” will be bombarded with ‘fakes’ like the above. We’re sadly seeing such stuff every week.
“So they published some code developed ‘in-house’ and now they proudly herald/advertise themselves as “good open source citizens” for ‘good measure’…”Here’s a new example of gross, crude and ridiculous openwashing of eBay, whose entire business is proprietary software with malicious elements like surveillance and blacklisting. The stack they use (not their work) may contain software such as Linux, but just about everything they do and make is proprietary. But “eBay has open sourced software designed to solve the problem of getting multiple servers to agree on a shared state even in the face of failures,” says the openwashing piece. So they published some code developed ‘in-house’ and now they proudly herald/advertise themselves as “good open source citizens” for ‘good measure’…
Maybe less than 1% of their codebase is “open”!
By criteria such as these, almost every company is now “Open” (even when it’s not and even when it actively attacks “Open”; proprietary software fiends pretend to be what they attack).
Now check out the latest propaganda of Salesforce. Its openwashing spam is a “contributed” PR piece about “open platforms” (whatever that means). GovTech, an influential site, published it to say:
Open platforms can provide states and localities with several advantages. They are typically cloud-based, with the underlying infrastructure and source code managed by the platform provider. This lowers the cost and maintenance burdens on IT shops who can reduce the number of patching and upgrade cycles, and scale up or down as needed without the worry of managing capital IT infrastructure.
Open platforms can also enable IT teams with limited expertise to develop and deploy advanced applications through simple, no-code/low-code capabilities. This provides IT staff with the software “building blocks” to create applications with minimal coding, and help those agencies facing shortages in personnel who are adept at application development. That said, open platforms frequently offer toolkits with more advanced capabilities, so more tech-savvy users can benefit as well.
Tommie Fern is vice president of sales for State and Local Government Public Sector Business Unit at Salesforce.
This guy pushes surveillance and proprietary software into the public sector. It’s proprietary, but they call it “open platforms”. How much more distortion can the word “open” endure?
“So one who looks for “Open Source” news gets loads of search results about companies that aren’t.”And speaking of supposedly “open platforms” with surveillance, how about Facebook? It’s pushing React Native, its own controversial ‘standard’, so ComputerWeekly decided to chip in with some PR. The so-called “Open Source Insider” (he no longer publishes his name) helps Facebook with this openwashing stunt. It’s that same old openwashing of surveillance operations. “Now open sourced by Facebook under an MIT licence, Hermes is supposed to supercharge startup times, drain less memory and result in a smaller overall application code footprint,” it says. Another new openwashing puff piece of Facebook came from Wired a few days ago.
Just amazing. So one who looks for “Open Source” news gets loads of search results about companies that aren’t. Openwashing plus googlebombing equals cheap whitewashing (reputation laundering/marketing).
How about the openwashing of RideOS (a surveillance network for passengers)? Linux.com participated in this openwashing about a week ago. Is there source code? Well, there’s an API:
Ridehail API and open source mobile apps are designed to empower companies to build and manage their own ride-hailing network.
“OS” in RideOS stands not for Open Source, but nowadays everything gets called “open-source” or “open” or “Open Source”…
“”OS” in RideOS stands not for Open Source, but nowadays everything gets called “open-source” or “open” or “Open Source”…”The propaganda of proprietary software giants would have us believe malicious secret code is “open”.
Here’s another new example, one where “OpenChain” actually refers to specs (an “OpenChain Specification.”). Well, an ‘open spec’ is not Open Source. It’s just misleading.
How about this new one from Container Journal? We have cloudwashing and openwashing here (“Open Server” and “Cloud Service” and “Ecosystem”, so arguably greenwashing too). It’s about CNCF, part of the Linux Foundation. To quote:
The Open Service Broker API specification is the product of a collaboration by Cloud Native Computing Foundation, Fujitsu, Google, IBM, Pivotal, Red Hat and SAP. The goal of the project is to develop a standardized approach for connecting services to container orchestration platforms and cloud-native applications. At the same time, open service brokers are rapidly becoming a critical capability that cloud service providers are now all but assumed to possess.
The word “open” is used spuriously here; but it’s not about code. It takes some research, it takes a lot of time (checking whether something is really Open Source or just openwashing as a marketing opportunity), but once you manage to decipher a project’s or a company’s status it rarely changes thereafter. If they’re faking it, they’ll likely fake it for years to come (if they survive that long).
We’ve meanwhile also noticed this new article from App Developer Magazine, a relatively large site with high reach. How did this article turn “leading cloud computing luminary” (i.e. a surveillance computing trap) into “Open Source expert” (in the headline)? Someone has just “joined Armory as vice president of open source and developer relations.”
“Get your optics ready because what’s nowadays being called “Open Source” has neither open nor source.”The person’s background however in no way supports the label “Open Source expert”; it’s someone who worked for CNCF (the above) as a marketer. To quote them: “Kumar was most recently the VP of product marketing and developer relations at the Cloud Native Computing Foundation (CNCF), the home of Kubernetes (arguably one of the most impactful open source projects in cloud computing).”
So apparently being in marketing makes one an “Open Source expert”. Whatever… we all know that the Linux Foundation is more or less a marketing front anyway. They do marketing for proprietary software firms for the most part; those are their sponsors and the motto is, “the sponsor is always right!”
Welcome to 2019. 2020 vision coming soon. Get your optics ready because what’s nowadays being called “Open Source” has neither open nor source. It’s just a marketing label like “dolphin-safe”. █
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In Scotland, the unionists (and Ruth Davidson) strike back
June 9, 2017 Kevin Lees Leave a comment
No Conservative had a better night than Ruth Davidson, the leader of the Scottish Conservatives, who won more seats than at any election since 1983. (Facebook)
It was the worst night for Scottish nationalism in over a decade — worse, perhaps, than the narrow vote against independence in 2014.
Though the Conservative Party lost its majority at the national level, thanks to a loss of 21 seats in England, it will stagger on as the largest party in the House of Commons thanks in no small part to a surge in support in Scotland, where the party picked up 13 seats, all at the expense of the pro-independence Scottish National Party.
Though the SNP still won a greater share of the vote and more seats than any other party in Scotland, it was a very bad night for the party, which lost more seats, in total, than the Conservatives nation-wide. It was the worst electoral performance for the SNP since 2010 — former SNP leader Alex Salmond lost his seat in Gordon, and deputy SNP leader Angus Robertson lost his seat in Moray. Other MPs, like Mhairi Black, the 22-year-old who is the youngest member of the House of Commons, were easily reelected.
It was a sign, perhaps, that Scottish voters are growing weary of the SNP’s focus on independence after first minister Nicola Sturgeon’s pledge to demand a second referendum on Scotland’s status after Brexit negotiations conclude in 2019. As all three national parties made gains in yesterday’s general election (including what amounts to one-third of the Liberal Democratic caucus in the House of Commons), it leaves Sturgeon and the SNP in a precarious position.
After becoming the indisputable leftist opposition to conservatism in Scotland, the SNP now faces the dual threat of a plausible Tory unionism to its right and a resurgent Labour under an equally left-wing Jeremy Corbyn.
The SNP’s Mhairi Black, at 22 years old, is the youngest and one of the most outspoken voices in British politics today. (Facebook)
Though Sturgeon won a fresh mandate in the Scottish parliamentary election last May (and will not face voters again until 2021), the SNP’s plurality in the Scottish parliament in Edinburgh falls two seats short of an absolute majority. While the SNP and its allies currently command a majority in favor of calling a second referendum, the 2017 general election result may force Sturgeon to rethink that approach in favor of more quotidian concerns. Moreover, she will have to reorient the SNP approach after it has held power in Scotland since 2007, first under Salmond and, since 2014, Sturgeon. Not an easy task for a party that thought it could keep amassing outsized margins solely by demanding a second referendum.
Sturgeon herself admitted that the ‘referendum-or-bust’ approach may have backfired. Since prime minister Theresa May triggered Article 50 in March, Sturgeon and the Scottish government have demanded a second referendum on independence for Scotland. The region’s voters narrowly chose in September 2014 to stay in the United Kingdom by a margin of 55.3% to 44.7%. The same voters, however, opposed Brexit in the June 2016 EU referendum by a margin of 62% to 38%, joining ‘Remain’ majorities in Northern Ireland and London.
Sturgeon has threatened that if the Brexit negotiations do not leave Scotland with access to the European single market (and a ‘hard’ Brexit would not guarantee that access), Scottish voters deserve the chance to seek independence again as one way to return to the European Union.
Continue reading In Scotland, the unionists (and Ruth Davidson) strike back →
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Why the Tories are so happy about their chances in Scotland
April 27, 2016 Kevin Lees Leave a comment
On May 6, Scotland could wake up to a Conservative leader of the opposition in Ruth Davidson. (Facebook)
The next opposition leader of Scotland’s regional parliament just might be an openly gay Conservative woman.
It sounds farfetched, but polls show that as the Scottish National Party (SNP) continues to lead by a wide margin with regional elections approaching on May 5, the Scottish Labour Party has sunk so low that Scottish Conservatives actually have a strong chance to place second — albeit a very far second behind the SNP and its popular leader, Scottish first minister Nicola Sturgeon.
If the Tories do indeed pull off a victory in Scotland, it would be a once-in-a-generation opportunity for Scottish Tories to rebrand themselves in Davidson’s image — and it would make Davidson, nearly overnight, a model figure in the modern Conservative Party.
Nothing’s certain.
The latest Survation/Daily Record poll conducted between April 15 and 20 gives the SNP a massive lead with 53% of the vote. Far behind in second place was Labour with 18%, but directly behind Labour? The Conservatives with 17%.
It’s virtually a law of post-Thatcher British politics that Scotland is a no-go zone for the Tories. In the 2015 general election, prime minister David Cameron’s Conservatives won just one seat (out of 59) and 14.9% of the vote, its lowest-ever vote share. The last time the Conservatives won even 25% of the Scottish vote in a general election was 1992. Since the 1997 landslide that wiped out the Conservatives, the party has elected just two MPs and, since 2005, the only Tory MP has been David Mundell, who represents Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale. Since May 2015, Mundell has served as the secretary of state for Scotland.
It’s been even worse for the Scottish Tories in local elections — the region-wide Conservative vote was just 12.4% in 2011 and just 13.9% in 2007. In Scotland’s post-devolution history (it’s had a regional parliament only since 1999), the Conservatives have held no more than 18 seats (out of 129).
So it’s remarkable that, at this point, the Conservatives even have a shot at becoming the official opposition at Holyrood.
Much of the credit belongs to Davidson, who is not your typical Tory. Continue reading Why the Tories are so happy about their chances in Scotland →
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How Scotland’s referendum will influence Brexit vote
February 21, 2016 Kevin Lees Leave a comment
Everyone knows that Scotland narrowly voted against independence in September 2014.
The ‘Yes’ campaign waged that fight fully knowing that, by 2017, there would be a broader UK-wide vote on the United Kingdom’s membership in the European Union. Given that Scots are relatively (though not universally) more pro-European than English voters, growing British euroscepticism may have played an important role to nudge some Scots toward the ‘Yes’ camp.
With that Brexit referendum now set for June 23, it’s the Scottish referendum that looms over the coming vote in at least two ways that could make Brexit more likely.
The first amounts to pure game theory on the part of Scotland’s voters, who comprise around 8.4% of the total UK population.
Continue reading How Scotland’s referendum will influence Brexit vote →
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16 in 2016: Sixteen global elections to watch in 2016
December 31, 2015 Kevin Lees 2 Comments
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Of the most important elections in 2015, it’s a safe bet to argue that three of them took place in Greece: the January parliamentary elections, one insane roller-coaster of a referendum in July and another snap parliamentary vote again in September.
So what is the world to do in 2016, when no one expects Greeks to return to the polls? (Though, Athens being Athens, it’s impossible to rule the possibility out.)
Fear not. The new year will bring with it a fresh schedule of exciting elections on all seven continents, including in the United States, which after a marathon pair of primary campaigns, will finally choose the country’s 45th president in November 2016.
But following American politics only begins to scratch the surface.
At least two world leaders in 2016 will put ballot questions to voters that could make or break their careers (and legacies).
New governments could emerge from elections in Taiwan, the Philippines, Morocco, Georgia, Peru, Jamaica, Ghana, Zambia and Australia.
Former president Nicolas Sarkozy will either advance or flame out in his bid for a French political comeback in 2016.
Semi-autocratic leaders in Russia, Uganda, Congo and Vietnam will seek endorsements from their voters while hoping that the veneer of elections doesn’t unleash popular protest.
An opaque series of votes in Iran could determine the country’s future Supreme Leader.
A mayoral election in London (and regional elections outside England) could reshuffle British politics with an even more important vote on the horizon in 2017.
One very special election could change the international agenda of world peace and global security altogether.
Without further ado, here is Suffragio‘s guide to the top 16 elections to watch in 2016. After a short break in the new year, your attention should turn to the South China Sea… Continue reading 16 in 2016: Sixteen global elections to watch in 2016 →
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Charles Kennedy has died at age 55
It’s a stunning thing to wake up to the news that Charles Kennedy, the former leader of the Liberal Democrats, has died at the relatively young age of 55.
The Inverness-born Kennedy represented Ross, Skye and Lochaber since 1997, and who represented a similar constituency in northern Scotland from 1983, until the general election just over three weeks ago. The Scottish National Party (SNP) swept away all but three of Scotland’s constituencies, including Kennedy’s, a shock result that had more to do with the dynamics of Scottish nationalism in the post-referendum era, not Kennedy, who remained widely popular. His death will deprive the Liberal Democrats of someone who could have helped the party rebuild its presence in Scotland.
As LibDem leader between 1999 and 2006, Kennedy served as a key transition between the beloved Paddy Ashdown and Nick Clegg, the latter who led the party on an economically liberal turn in the 2010 elections and ultimately brought the Liberal Democrats into government.
In May, however, the Liberal Democrats were wiped out — in England and Scotland alike — after widespread disappointment among their voters. The Liberal Democratic caucus reduced from 57 members of parliament to just eight.
Notwithstanding the Cleggmania of 2010, the high-water mark for the party was actually the 2005 election, when Kennedy’s Liberal Democrats won 62 seats.
As leader, Kennedy was one of the few opposition voices to prime minister Tony Blair’s decision to join the United States in its invasion of Iraq. Despite grumblings from some Labour MPs, including the late former foreign minister Robin Cook, Blair’s decision to join the Iraq invasion won at least begrudging support from his own party and quiet acquiescence from the Conservative Party.
It’s no exaggeration to say that, while the Tories fumbled in the electoral wilderness, shifting leaders from William Hague to Iain Duncan Smith to Michael Howard in the mid-2000s, Kennedy was often the de facto leader of the opposition, and he was certainly the undisputed leader of the anti-war movement in 2003 and beyond.
It’s true that Kennedy’s leadership ended when it became clear that he had a problem with alcohol. That he admitted it, sought treatment and remained a beloved elder statesman within the Liberal Democratic camp speaks to his strength — even Blair, in his memoirs, spoke of the pressure that drove him to problem drinking at Number 10.
Notwithstanding former Scottish first minister Alex Salmond’s comments, now being widely derided, suggesting Kennedy might have been a closet nationalist, the universal response across the country today is praise for a charismatic leader who took principled stands.
The party holds a leadership election on July 16, with the more leftist Tim Farron generally leading his opponent, the more centrist Norman Lamb. That the winner of the contest will try to restore the party’s fortunes without the talents of Charlie Kennedy, however, amounts to a tragic setback.
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How an SNP sweep could backfire if it delivers power to Labour
May 6, 2015 Kevin Lees Leave a comment
Imagine it is May 2016, and Scottish voters are going to the polls to select the members of its regional parliament at Holyrood.
You’re Scottish first minister Nicola Sturgeon, and you’re asking voters to deliver a third consecutive term to the ruling Scottish National Party (SNP), the pro-independence, social democratic party that’s controlled Scottish government since 2007.
RELATED: Scotland could easily hold the balance of power in Britain
Which scenario would you prefer? Continue reading How an SNP sweep could backfire if it delivers power to Labour →
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Nine European women who could join Hillary Clinton at the top
Part of the undeniable appeal of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s presidential campaign is her push to become the first woman to lead the United States, enhanced by the fact that she aims to succeed the first African-American president.
But, if elected, Clinton will be far from the only powerful woman on the world stage.
If she wins the November 2016 presidential race, she’ll join a list of world leaders that includes German president Angela Merkel, Liberian president Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, Lithuanian president Dalia Grybauskaite, Brazilian president Dilma Rousseff, Danish prime minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt and Chilean president Michelle Bachelet.
What’s more, there’s never been a better moment for women leading their countries. Assuming that Clinton wins the presidency in 2016 and serves two terms, it’s not inconceivable that she’d lead the United States at a time of ‘peak’ female leadership. But nowhere is that more true than in Europe. In fact, it’s not inconceivable that each of the six largest member-states of the European Union could have women in charge during a potential Clinton administration.
Here’s who they are — and how they might rise to power. Continue reading Nine European women who could join Hillary Clinton at the top →
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Scotland could easily hold the balance of power in Britain
March 19, 2015 Kevin Lees Leave a comment
A poll late last week confirmed that, if survey trends hold, it will be very difficult for the Labour Party to form a new government without the support of the pro-independence Scottish National Party (SNP) after the United Kingdom’s May 7 general elections.
Presumably, that makes Labour leader Ed Miliband’s declaration this week ruling out any coalition with the SNP somewhat awkward with the reality that the SNP may win between 40 and 50 of Scotland’s 59 seats in the House of Commons, many of which are currently held by Labour MPs and which for years were reliable seats on the Labour backbenches — so reliable, in fact, that none of those 59 constituencies changed parties between the 2005 and 2010 general elections.
With polls showing that Labour’s narrow lead against the governing Conservative Party has vanished, the SNP earthquake means that Labour is unlikely to form a government without at least some form of SNP support and, notably, Miliband didn’t rule out an informal arrangement whereby the SNP supports a Labour minority government. Nevertheless, just six months after Scottish voters narrowly rejected independence, they are now set to determine the balance of power throughout the entire United Kingdom.
RELATED: Scottish referendum results — winners and losers
Post-referendum, Scottish voters are now flocking to the SNP not only in regional politics (the SNP controls a majority government in the Scottish parliament) but in national politics as well. With the SNP winning nearly half of the Scottish vote and with a lead of around 20% against Labour, it could turn Scotland almost universally yellow (the SNP’s color), wiping out Labour’s Scottish heartland and depriving the Liberal Democrats of many of their 11 seats as well, nearly 20% of the LibDem MPs in total.
It’s not entirely surprising. Scottish voters are keen to hold Westminster accountable for promises of ‘devolution max,’ a set of promises made desperately by Labour and Conservative leaders alike in the last days of the referendum. When the ‘Yes’ campaign lost the referendum, Alex Salmond stepped down both as SNP leader and as Scotland’s first minister. Though he remains a relatively beloved figure in Scotland, his replacement, Nicola Sturgeon (pictured above) is even more popular, especially among young voters, evincing a more progressive edge than Salmond’s hard-edged leftism forged in the divisive politics of the 1970s. Continue reading Scotland could easily hold the balance of power in Britain →
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Scottish referendum results: winners and losers
September 19, 2014 Kevin Lees Leave a comment
The results are in, and Scotland did not vote yesterday to become a sovereign, independent country.
Scottish residents — and all British citizens — will wake up today to find that, however narrowly, the United Kingdom will remain as united today as it was yesterday, from a formal standpoint.
With all 32 local councils reporting, the ‘Yes’ camp has won 1.618 million votes (44.7% of the vote) against 2.002 million votes (55.3% of the vote) in favor of remaining within the British union, capping a 19-month campaign that resulted in a staggering 84.6% turnout in Thursday’s vote.
Moreover, ‘Yes’ won four councils, including Glasgow, Scotland’s largest city:
But the close call has shaken the fundamental constitutional structure of the United Kingdom, and Scotland’s vote will now dominate the political agenda in the final eight months before the entire country votes in a general election next May, for better or worse.
So who comes out of the referendum’s marathon campaign looking better? Who comes out of the campaign bruised? Here’s Suffragio‘s tally of the winners and losers, following what must be one of the most historic elections of the 2010s in one of the world’s oldest democracies.
1. Scottish nationalism
The nationalists lost Thursday’s referendum. So why are they still ‘winners’ in a political sense? Continue reading Scottish referendum results: winners and losers →
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Scotland votes: Should it stay or should it go?
Today, residents of Scotland, a region of 5.3 million people, will vote in referendum that’s been scheduled for 19 months, and that will ask one simple question:
Should Scotland be an independent country?
The answer could change the economic, social and cultural outcomes of the lives of both English and Scottish residents for generations to come.
With polls set to open shortly, Suffragio looks at ten policy (and other) issues that Scots are considering as they cast their ballots, either to become an independent state or to remain part of the United Kingdom. Continue reading Scotland votes: Should it stay or should it go? →
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If Scotland votes ‘No,’ what will devolution-max entail?
One of the biggest carrots that the ‘Better Together’ campaign is dangling to undecided voters in the week before tomorrow’s Scottish independence referendum is the concept of ‘devo-max’ — the idea that London will deliver ever greater devolution of policymaking powers to the Scottish parliament in Holyrood.
Conservative prime minister David Cameron, Liberal Democratic deputy prime minister Nick Clegg and Labour leader Ed Miliband on Tuesday together signed a high-profile pledge to give Scotland greater powers, even without reducing the amount of financial support Scotland currently receives from Westminster.
That is, of course, if Scots vote ‘No’ to independence.
It’s a vow that nationalist leaders, including Scottish first minister Alex Salmond, were quick to dismiss as last-minute gasps of desperation not to be trusted. Salmond, among others, noted that it was Cameron’s insistence on a straight in-or-out vote that eliminated a possible third option for a more federal United Kingdom or some form of devo-max when the two leaders agreed the referendum in March 2013.
Former Labour prime minister Gordon Brown has argued for months that a ‘No’ vote would necessarily require a debate over additional devolution. It might have been strategically wiser if British party leaders, as well as the leaders of the ‘Better Together’ campaign like former Labour chancellor Alistair Darling, had acknowledged the devo-max option earlier. That may be one reason why Brown, who engineered Scottish devolution upon Labour’s 1997 electoral victory, has emerged as such a strong champion for the ‘No’ campaign, despite his national defeat in the 2010 general election. His speech today, less than 24 hours before polls open, was one of the best of the campaign (on either side) and maybe the best of his career.
If a ‘Yes’ vote could endanger Cameron’s premiership, a ‘No’ vote tomorrow could alter Brown’s legacy for the positive.
But as politicians from the left and the right have descended upon Scotland in the last week, with polls showing a much tighter contest than the anti-independence campaign ever anticipated, it’s worth considering three questions about the latest promise of further devolution:
Has Scotland effectively used its local governance powers in the past 15 years?
What additional powers might Scotland be granted as part of ‘devo-max’?
With a general election approaching in May 2015, and with the governing Conservative base firmly rooted in England, is the promise of devo-max something Cameron can legitimately deliver, in light of grumbling from English Tories increasingly frustrated about concessions to Scotland?
Continue reading If Scotland votes ‘No,’ what will devolution-max entail? →
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After Independence Day: The Road Ahead for an Independent Scotland
September 15, 2014 Kevin Lees 4 Comments
Guest post by Michael J. Geary
With three days to go before Scotland votes on whether to cut the cord on its 300-year relationship with London, opinion polls indicate that the final result is simply too close to call.
The ‘Yes’ campaign had narrowed the gap and last week’s polls have forced London and the British establishment to take evasive action. Some called on Queen Elizabeth II, on vacation at her Scottish estate, to make a statement in support of maintaining the Union. Others, fearing that the wind was behind the pro-independence movement, have adopted more Machiavellian tactics with claims that banks would abandon Scotland if the ‘Yes’ side won. Mark Carney, the governor of the Bank of England repeated that an independent Scotland could not use the pound. Most of the claims made by London seem as dodgy as the dossier that made the case for Britain’s involvement in the Iraq war; most of it does not stand up to objective scrutiny. But if ‘Team Independence’ wins on 18 September, what are Edinburgh’s immediate objectives and challenges?
RELATED: How an independent Scotland could enter the EU
RELATED: Why would an independent Scotland want to keep the pound?
Scotland is not the first sub-territorial entity to seek independence and will not be the last. There are almost 60 secessionist movements worldwide with claims to independence. Most face similar challenges post-independence, but modern Scotland is better equipped than most to successfully navigate these obstacles but examining past precedents.
Ireland exited the United Kingdom in 1921; Armageddon did not follow, although it did experience a brief civil war over the terms of the independence agreement, having failed to secure Northern Ireland. The Free State government adopted a new Irish pound, which was for a number of decades pegged to sterling and monitored by a currency commission. Dublin had no central bank until 1943 and the Bank of Ireland acted as banker to the government until the early 1970s. Having left the Commonwealth, Ireland sought greater interdependence from Great Britain through full membership of all the main international organizations, including the United Nations, the Council of Europe, the Organisation for European Economic Co-operation, the International Monetary Fund, and the European Communities.
For Scotland, the first 18 months after a ‘Yes’ result will be crucial not only for finding a solution to the currency question but also in securing membership within the international community. Continue reading After Independence Day: The Road Ahead for an Independent Scotland →
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Who is Nicola Sturgeon? Meet the star of the SNP’s rising generation.
If there’s one person who will benefit no matter how Scotland votes in its too-close-to-call independence referendum on September 18, it is deputy first minister Nicola Sturgeon, who has taken a high-profile role leading the ‘Yes’ campaign that supports Scottish independence.
When Alex Salmond, the leader of the Scottish National Party (SNP) became first minister in May 2007, just eight years after Scotland’s initial elections for its local parliament in Holyrood, Sturgeon became his deputy, and she has served as the deputy leader of the SNP since 2004.
If Salmond suffers a defeat in next week’s referendum, the 44-year-old Sturgeon, a popular figure in Scotland, might soon replace the 59-year old Salmond in government. Some SNP deputies are already arguing that, if the ‘Yes’ camp doesn’t win next Thursday, Salmond should resign and allow Sturgeon to become first minister, in much the same way that Tories in Westminster are arguing that British prime minister David Cameron would have to step down if the ‘Yes’ campaign wins.
With polls now showing that the ‘Yes’ campaign has essentially caught up with the ‘No’ campaign, a close defeat may yet be a victory for Salmond. As in Québec in 1980, a narrow loss wouldn’t foreclose another possible vote in a decade’s time. But it might be difficult, after losing Scotland’s best chance at independence, for Salmond to lead the SNP into a campaign for a third consecutive term in the next elections, which must be held before 2016. Moreover, another term as first minister is a letdown from the much headier notion of becoming sovereign Scotland’s first prime minister.
On the other hand, if the ‘Yes’ camp pulls off the victory that just a week ago seemed out of its grasp, Sturgeon would almost certainly rise to deputy prime minister in an independent Scotland, just as much the heir apparent to Salmond then as now. As women flock toward independence, according to many polls, Sturgeon may be the ‘Yes’ campaign’s secret weapon.
The bottom line is that Sturgeon is the favorite to become, within the decade, either Scotland’s next first minister (within the existing UK system) or its second prime minister as an independent country.
In light of all of the questions — including Scotland’s currency and EU membership — that would be settled in its first chaotic years as an independent nation-state, Scotland’s future leadership is one of the key variables in whether it would become viable as a new state.
So what exactly would Sturgeon bring in the way of political skill and states(wo)manship?
Continue reading Who is Nicola Sturgeon? Meet the star of the SNP’s rising generation. →
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How an independent Scotland could enter the EU
One of the most vexing questions of the current campaign for Scottish independence is how easily it might be for an independent Scotland to join the European Union.
As a constituent part of the United Kingdom, Scotland has been part of the European Union and its predecessor, the European Economic Community, since 1972, the date of the first EEC enlargement, when Ireland and Denmark also joined.
As such, Scotland has been exempt from several conditions that would be required of an independent country seeking EU membership today. Scotland hasn’t had to join the eurozone or become a member of the Schengen zone, which allows all EU citizens to travel freely throughout 26 of the 28 member states (Ireland and the United Kingdom are the exceptions). It has also received some of the benefit of those rebates that Margaret Thatcher clawed back from Europe in the 1980s.
An independent Scotland might be forced to accept, at least in principle, joining either or both of the the eurozone the Schengen zone as a condition of re-accession to the European Union. The former could complicate the assurances that Scottish first minister Alex Salmond has tried to give that Scotland could continue using the British pound and, like Ireland today, share open borders with what remains of the United Kingdom. Continue reading How an independent Scotland could enter the EU →
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If Scotland votes for independence, will David Cameron resign?
September 9, 2014 Kevin Lees Leave a comment
It was another Conservative prime minister, Harold Macmillian, who explained in just five short words how governments can crumble with such spectacular suddenness:
Events, my dear boy, events.
Today, his Tory successor, British prime minister, David Cameron faces one of the biggest events of the history of his country — the possible disintegration of the British union, as the chances of a Scottish vote in favor of independence in 10 days rise dramatically.
As polls show that the campaign has rapidly narrowed (the ‘No’ campaign had a 20-point lead just last month), and with handful of polls now showing that the ‘Yes’ campaign has taken a narrow lead just days before the September 18 referendum, Cameron now suddenly faces the prospect that he’ll be the prime minister on whose watch Great Britain simply dissolved.
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even want to keep the pound?
It was Cameron, after all, who agreed with Scottish first minister Alex Salmond last year to hold a referendum, and it was Cameron who demanded a straight in/out vote — no third option for ‘devolution max’ or a federalized version of the United Kingdom.
So if Cameron loses Scotland, must Cameron go?
Victory for the independence camp would cause nearly as great a political earthquake in the rest of the United Kingdom as in Scotland. It would leave rest of the United Kingdom — England, Wales and Northern Ireland — to pick up the pieces of what was once a global superpower. All three major parties, including the center-left Labour Party and the junior coalition partner, the Liberal Democrats, fully opposed independence. So a ‘Yes’ victory would be a repudiation, from Scotland at least, of the entire political mainstream.
Cameron’s position, in particular, would be especially vulnerable as the prime minister who allowed the great British union to fall apart.
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Debasing the CJ post
Written by Herman Tiu Laurel
From the noisy media circus atmospherics the past two weeks surrounding the scramble of Cabinet-member wannabes and outsiders for the Judiciary’s top post, to the buzz on whether or not these nominees’ Judicial and Bar Council (JBC) interviews should be televised, down to the paparazzi fervor with which these prospective candidates are being introduced to the public, all efforts in finding a replacement for ousted Chief Justice (CJ) Renato Corona ultimately bring up one question: Isn’t this a debasement, a trivialization, of what in the past was considered a rarefied post, along with the essential attributes of detachment and transcendence that the candidates — not just for the Supreme Court (SC) but for the Judiciary as a whole — are supposed to possess?
Thus, it was with a sense of disbelief that I witnessed the likes of the country’s chief tax collector showing off her wares in a cable news interview and of law deans and professors parading themselves to catch media attention, like in a burlesque show. It really is a sad spectacle; and sadder still when you think of how low it speaks of the ruling powers’ regard for the Judiciary.
One CJ qualification raised by Malacañang spokesman Edwin Lacierda, in obvious support of 51-year-old Bureau of Internal Revenue (BIR) Chief Kim Henares, was on the matter of age. He told Palace reporters that since “age is not a factor,” a CJ candidate does not have to be old. What did he mean by that?
First of all, being 40 is not necessarily “young” to the younger set. Despite that, 50 can now be the “new 40” and 60 the “new 50.” Moreover, someone who is 60 can even conceivably be 40 in many respects since it is now widely believed that the mind determines the age. Therefore, someone at age 51 who is crabby, myopic, tyrannical and oppressive can really be an 81-year-old Mubarak in mental state. Got that, Lacierda?
Well, perhaps to buttress his argument, Lacierda also cited the case of US Federal Supreme Court CJ John Roberts, who, upon assuming his post at age 50, serves as an example of a young person appointed to the zenith of the Judiciary. What he failed to note, however, was whether or not this young appointee indeed had a sterling record of public service to begin with.
Objections were already raised about Roberts’ pro-right, anti-abortion leanings that allegedly triggered some violence by extremist groups prior to his appointment. Then, in his five years at the helm, a number of major, yet unsettling, changes came about under his leadership, which led retired Justice Sandra Day O’Connor to lament, among other things, Roberts’ reversal of her major contribution to US jurisprudence of imposing spending limits on political campaigns.
So besides the 40-year-old age requirement for Philippine CJs, should there be any room for petty ageism? Moreover, given the importance of the CJ’s position, have we ever had any in-depth, ideological, or jurisprudential discussion on issues relating to the CJ’s appointment?
Sadly, it has always been the case of the Chief Executive and his spokesmen, the Legislature, and the media being at the forefront of providing leading, albeit shallow and mediocre, questions in whatever discussions, with politicians, media, relatives, friends of JBC members, or law fraternities holding sway on a personal or parochial basis.
Such a debased (or debasing) process of naming, vetting and appointing the next CJ clearly creates worse conditions for any nominee, as he will no longer be unaffected; will likely feel obliged to respond to private and public parties to which he may feel indebted; or will fear chastisement if he displeases one or the other source of support for his appointment.
We must therefore take a second look at the serendipitous findings of lawyers Alan Paguia and Homobono Adaza in reviewing Article VIII Section 9 on the Judiciary: That there is no constitutional basis for the nomination by the JBC and the President’s appointment of the CJ.
Given the fundamental principles upon which our nation’s democratic system is supposedly founded (namely, the separation-of-powers, checks-and-balances, the independence of the Judiciary) and taking heed of the caveat from an old adage that says “Absolute power corrupts absolutely,” we must end the practice of appointing a CJ from outside the SC once and for all in order to enhance the high court’s independence and detachment and for it to focus purely on the interpretation and execution of the Constitution and all its laws.
It is for this reason that Paguia, Adaza, Jojo Borja, myself, and several others will be filing a petition before the SC this Thursday on the issue.
Our thanks thus go to citizens Ric Palompon of Manila, Editha of Batangas, Bonifacio from the South, Romeo Lopez, Olive of Bulacan, Mrs. Villanueva of Mandaluyong, Mrs. Borja of Iligan, and Glen of QC for sending in donations for the filing fee and photocopying. To the few donors who have not sent in their names, we wish to thank them as well. Because of your generosity, I believe we will have enough by the date of filing. Mabuhay to all the conscientious and pro-active citizens who are continuing to support our cause!
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URL: http://www.tribune.net.ph/index.php/commentary?start=9
‘US anti-terrorism policy violates human rights’ – Jimmy Carter
Former US president Jimmy Carter has criticized America’s actions against terrorism, saying that drones attacks and targeted assassination of suspicious people are undermining America’s “role as the global champion of human rights.”
In his critical article "A Cruel and Unusual Record" published in the New York Times, Jimmy Carter said that with all the revolutions sweeping around the world, America should “make the world safer.” Instead, however, “America’s violation of international human rights abets our enemies and alienates our friends,” he argues.
US’s government counterterrorism policies, Carter says, are now clearly violating at least 10 of the 30 articles written in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights..... MORE
URL: http://rt.com/usa/news/carter-article-us-drones-677/
Turkey's downed jet: NATO action in disguise?
Turkey is pushing NATO to regard Syria's recent downing of a Turkish jet as an attack on the alliance. NATO is gathering to discuss the incident, while some see parallels with the events that preceded NATO’s campaign in Libya.
Turkey insists that its unarmed RF-4E reconnaissance jet was shot down in international airspace on Friday while testing a domestic radar system. The country’s Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc also said Monday that Syrian forces had opened ground fire on a search and rescue plane shortly after the first jet was downed.
Turkey has also requested that NATO hold a meeting under Article 4 of the alliance's treaty, which allows a NATO member to request a consultation if it feels a threat to its territorial integrity or security. The meeting is due to take place on Tuesday. The alliance will consider classifying the Friday incident as an armed attack under Article 5, which states that an attack against one NATO member shall be considered an attack against all NATO members..... MORE
URL: http://www.rt.com/news/turkish-plane-nato-syria-725/
547,000 victims
Written by Jonathan de la Cruz
To learned obser-vers, it is not so much the news that the Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas (BSP) has shifted $1 biliion of its $77 billion reserves from bonds or other financial instruments lodged with its accredited fund managers to an interest bearing account called the “firewall fund” administered by the International Monetary Fund (IMF) that is the problem. That shift, not a lending, is not really as gross and threatening as some sectors would like the public to believe. It is in fact a prudent and, yes, a beneficial move as part of our commitment to the stability of global financial markets. Rather, it is the report that the BSP has presided over the collapse of 41 banks in the last 18 months alone putting the monies of 547,000 depositors in extreme jeopardy, which has raised alarm bells in these parts.
Coming as it did with the 49th anniversary of the Philippine Deposit Insurance Corp. (PDIC) and the celebration of “Depositor Protection Week,” this piece of bad news has really sent shudders down the spine of millions of depositors whose hard-earned monies may just be lost in a jiffy resulting from what some observers have described as a disturbing trend of laxity in the BSP’s examination and supervisory functions as well as the inchoate if not conflicting rules and issuances made by it and its twin banking regulatory agency, the PDIC.
The unprecedented bank closures of more than two banks per month has prompted LPGMA party-list Rep. Arnel Ty to push a congressional inquiry on the reasons behind these closures and their impact on the communities and sectors they serve and the economy as a whole..... MORE
URL: http://www.tribune.net.ph/index.php/commentary/item/684-547000-victims
Small lady at LTO strikes again
Written by Jacinto ‘Jing’ Paras
The BS Aquino administration seems so fond of small ladies, whether fictitious or real. One such small lady was mentioned during the impeachment trial where a congressman alleged that some documents were handed to him by a small lady.
Another is a mysterious small lady who left some documents at the gate of another congressman in his Loyola Heights home. Now another small lady that figured out in a very high profile controversy is the small lady of the Land Transportation Office (LTO), and mind you, this small lady is not fictitious, she is for real and she’s got big plans but most have gained notoriety in our current day to day life. She’s none other than the best friend and shooting buddy of his Excellency BS Aquino, Ms. Virginia Torres.
Charlie Manalo of the Tribune called her, the most controversial official. If we recall, Ms Torres got involved in illegall and forcible takeover the facilities of Stradcom, a company owned by Mr. Cesar Quiambao. Torres tried to help the Sumbilla group, a group claiming ownership of Stradcom to forcibly open the offices of Quiambao’s Stradcom and entered its premises aided by LTO security forces. For this notorious act, Department of Justice (DoJ) Secretary Leila de Lima recommended the filing of both administrative and criminal cases and dismissal of Torres from government service..... MORE
URL: http://www.tribune.net.ph/index.php/commentary?start=18
One dead as Chinese ship sinks RP boat near shoal
Written by Mario J. Mallari
FISHING CRAFT’S CAPTAIN SAYS ATTACK INTENTIONAL
The first physical encounter between Chinese and Philippine vessels amid a tense naval standoff over conflicting territorial claims of both countries happened last June 18, or a day after President Aquino ordered the pullout of Philippine ships from the disputed Scarborough Shoal, in an incident where a Chinese vessel rammed a local fishing boat near the shoal, killing one and leaving four others missing.
Office of Civil Defense chief Benito Ramos described the ramming as accidental but Posio Balmores, captain of the motorized fishing boat AXL John, said their seacraft was intentionally bumped.
Ramos, nevertheless, admitted that the suspected Chinese vessel did not stop to help the Filipino fishermen as seafaring protocol calls, raising suspicion that the incident was not accidental.
“It (foreign vessel) did not (stop) that’s why we are doubtful if it was accidental then they should have helped them (Filipino fishermen). They were recovered two days after by fellow Filipino fishermen,” Ramos said..... MORE
URL: http://www.tribune.net.ph/index.php/headlines/item/700-one-dead-as-chinese-ship-sinks-rp-boat-near-shoal
Carpio accuser produces witness to SC cover-up in Urban Bank case
Written by Benjamin B. Pulta
A lawyer, who was disbarred after accusing Supreme Court (SC) Senior Associate Justice Antonio Carpio of improprieties in handling a case involving the now defunct Urban Bank, has produced a key witness to back up his claim that there had been a cover-up.
The witness, former SC stenographer Fe Malou Castelo, who took notes of important proceedings in the high court for nine years lashed out at justices of the tribunal who, according to
her, erred in ordering the disbarment of the lawyer on “inadequate and insufficient” grounds.
In an affidavit dated May 25, 2012, Castelo, who was SC stenographer from 1997 to 2006, also backed claims by Magdaleno Peña that there was a “cover-up” in the complaints he filed against some justices and that the documents he submitted pertaining to an allegedly forged resolution issued in November 2002 by then First Division member Associate Justice Antonio Carpio were authentic.
“Throughout my tenure as a stenographer with the SC, I have never experienced an instance wherein any justice or division, or the en banc for that matter, changed the actions taken and agreed upon during the deliberations, without having the particular case called again,” Castelo said..... MORE
URL: http://www.tribune.net.ph/index.php/headlines/item/695-carpio-accuser-produces-witness-to-sc-cover-up-in-urban-bank-case
POEA blacklists 2 US recruitment firms
Written by Mina Diaz
Two US-based employment agencies were blacklisted by the Philippine Overseas Employment Agency (POEA) for deceiving 24 overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) who were promised jobs in hotels in Florida but were forced to work as farmers in Mississippi.
The POEA cancelled the recruitment license of US Opportunities and Royal Hospitality Services and the ZDrive Inc., both US-based employment services companies, for their failure to provide Filipino workers the jobs specified in their contracts.
POEA Administrator Hans Leo Cacdac also ordered the exclusion of two US-based companies from participating in the government’s overseas employment program for contractual violation under the POEA Rules and Regulations Governing the Recruitment and Employment of Land-based Overseas Workers..... MORE
URL: http://www.tribune.net.ph/index.php/nation/item/691-poea-blacklists-2-us-recruitment-firms
RP ranked 6th by WB in gender equality
President Aquino appears bent on naming more women to key positions in the Executive Department or the Judiciary where a selection process for the position of Chief Justice is in progress.
At a radio press briefing, deputy presidential spokesman Abigail Valte said the Aquino administration remained committed to the promotion of equality between men and women even as the Palace aide welcomed results of a World Bank (WB) study showing the Philippines ranking sixth out of 129 countries in gender equality..... MORE
URL: http://www.tribune.net.ph/index.php/nation/item/692-rp-ranked-6th-by-wb-in-gender-equality
Alcala urges Finance chief to discipline Customs boss
Agriculture Secretary Proceso Alcala is calling on Finance Secretary Cesar Purisima to ask Customs Commissioner Rufino Biazon to make good on measures needed to curb smuggling of imported meats that erode the local industries of pork, poultry and other agricultural crops.
In a letter to Purisima dated June 13, Alcala followed up on the series of letter-requests he had made since April 10, asking among other things that the Bureau of Customs (BoC) provide the Department of Agriculture quarantine personnel with the Inward Foreign Manifest (IFM) “unfiltered on a real time basis.”
Alcala also asked Purisima on the status of BoC’s implementation on reference prices that he wanted imposed on imports starting May 11, 2012..... MORE
URL: http://www.tribune.net.ph/index.php/metro-section/item/677-alcala-urges-finance-chief-to-discipline-customs-boss
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Plans of the Pasig City police to release “at cost” an arrested suspect believed to be one of the three assailants behind the slay try on The Daily Tribune reporter Fernan Angeles last March, was foiled when the journalist himself showed up at the Pasig PNP station to verify a text message saying the local drug ring’s designated hitman had just been picked up.
Angeles, who sustained permanent physical disabilities resulting from an ambush that saw him peppered with six bullets, assailed the anti-drug operatives of the Pasig PNP.
Angeles, who has resumed covering Malacañang Palace for The Tribune, recounted having seen how the Pasig PNP’s anti-drug operatives even accorded privilege to the suspect, one alias Junior Praning, who was allowed to use the mobile phone of an anti-drug police officer so he could contact anybody who could “bail him out instantly.”.... MORE
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The Theranos Story, ch. 59: there’s life left in the corporate corpse–patents! And no trial date in sight.
April 25, 2019 | by Donna Cusano | No Comments
You can get blood out of this. R eally! The US Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) awarded five–count ’em, five!–patents to Theranos in March and April. All of them were filed between 2015 and 2016, when the whispers of fraud were getting louder, as were the legal threats.
The five patents are:
1. Systems, devices, and methods for bodily fluid sample collection, transport, and handling
2. Systems, devices, and methods for bodily fluid sample transport
3. Systems and methods for sample preparation using sonication
4. Systems and methods for sample preparation using sonication (cell disruption)
5. Rapid measurement of formed blood component sedimentation rate from small sample volumes
The CB Insights Research article has the details on what they cover, including patent application illustrations. It’s not stated, but looking back to TTA’s many articles, in this Editor’s judgment, the heir to these patents cannot be Elizabeth Holmes or her many investors now feeling the lint in their pockets, but the company holding the last note, the $65 million (not $100 million) loan from Fortress Investment Group LLC, part of Japan’s SoftBank Group [TTA 28 Dec 17]–collateralized by the portfolio of over 70 patents. Hat tip to HISTalk 19 April
If you hunger for a deep dive into the design of Theranos’ blood analyzers that never really worked, and can appreciate that the miniLab was what “one expert in laboratory medicine called “theater … not science”, this Design World article is for you: Schadenfreude for Theranos — and satisfaction in how engineering doesn’t lie
Meanwhile, back in the US District Court in San Jose, California, we learn that the trial of Ms. Holmes (now engaged to William “Billy” Evans, a 27-year-old heir to the Evans Hotel Group, which has three West Coast resort properties and who is also a techie) and former Theranos president Ramesh ‘Sunny’ Balwani has been delayed indefinitely. Originally reported to be summer entertainment with a start date of 8 July, the judge set the next status conference for the case for 1 July, but refused to set a trial date, which means that the trial may not begin till next year. According to the San Jose Mercury News, the defense is seeking materials from the FDA and CMS, which are, according to defense lawyer, lawyer Kevin Downey, are “in many instances exculpatory.”
Ms. Holmes’ lawyers are also seeking information on the communications between John Carreyrou of the Wall Street Journal, the FDA, and CMS. In a motion filed last week, they accused Mr. Carreyrou under the guise of investigative journalism of “exerting influence on the regulatory process in a way that appears to have warped the agencies’ focus on the company and possibly biased the agencies’ findings against it.” Stat
The bubbly Ms. Holmes and Not-So-Sunny Balwani are facing Federal charges of two counts of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and nine counts of wire fraud. They each face a maximum of 20 years in prison and up to $2.7 million in fines.
The Theranos Story, ch. 57: was it Silicon Valley and Startup Culture bad practices pushed to the max?
October 4, 2018 | by Donna Cusano | No Comments
[grow_thumb image=”http://telecareaware.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Rock-1-crop-2.jpg” thumb_width=”125″ /]Theranos is now formally in California insolvency proceedings (note on their website). Creditors may have enough awarded to them to go down to the local pizzeria to buy a slice or two. Hard lessons indeed for creditors and shareholders. But aside from the drama yet to come in the trial of Elizabeth Holmes and Sunny now Shady Balwani, a/k/a the Silicon Valley Trial of the Century, are there any further lessons to be learned?
For those of us who have not been closely following The Theranos Story, David Shaywitz’s kind-of-review of John Carreyrou’s Bad Blood coupled with a thought piece in Forbes is especially appealing. Even if you’ve been tracking it closely like your Editor, it’s a good read. He posits that in three key areas, Theranos exhibited Startup Culture and Silicon Valley Ethics (or lack thereof) at the very extreme in these areas:
Secrecy: extreme compartmentalization, siloing, stratification, and rigid definition of roles that prevent information sharing. No outsiders in, or peer-reviewed research out.
Promises, promises, promises: a rosy picture to the point of delusion that masks real flaws
I Want To Believe: for various personal reasons, investors, press, and supports need to believe
Secrecy can and should work for companies in keeping proprietary information and competitive advantage intact. All startup and early-stage companies have to paint a positive picture in the midst of pitched struggle. The glass is always half full not empty even when the bank account is, but when the old ‘fake it till you make it’ becomes too strong, papering over the truth is the thing and the institutional absence of tough self-scrutiny (or a professional kicker-of-holes) prevents companies from fixing obvious problems–you get a delusional organization like Theranos edging gradually, then very quickly, into outright fraud. Finally, Theranos’ supporters had their own reasons for wanting to believe the technology worked.
He goes on to state that the fraud that Theranos perpetrated was not only financial and in harm to health, but also in the hope that change is possible in healthcare delivery, we can challenge the way it’s always been done and win, and that technology can be empowering.
Will we, as a result, in Mr. Shaywitz’s words, take the ‘hit to hope’ to heart and become ‘excessively chastened and overcautious”? This Editor tends to be on the overcautious side when it comes to technologies such as IoT and AI because the potential for hacking and bad use is proven despite the hype, but far less so in challenging incumbents–even it it resembles tilting at windmills till they buy you.
Will l’affaire Theranos change the Silicon Valley and Startup Culture for the better? Here is my ‘hit to hope’–that this excessively aggressive, conformist, borderline irresponsible, and secretive culture could change. This Editor doubts it’s even entered their leaders’ ‘deep’ thoughts, despite this best-selling book.
A more typical review of ‘Bad Blood’ is by Eric Topol, MD (!) in Nature–who certainly borrowed ‘The Theranos Story’ from this series of articles!
The Theranos Story, ch. 52: How Elizabeth Holmes became ‘healthcare’s most reviled’–HISTalk’s review of ‘Bad Blood’
July 5, 2018 | by Donna Cusano | No Comments
[grow_thumb image=”http://telecareaware.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/holmes-barbie-doll-1.jpg” thumb_width=”125″ /]A Must Read, even if you don’t have time for the book. During the brief Independence Day holiday, this Editor caught up with HISTalk’s review of John Carreyrou’s ‘Bad Blood’, his evisceration of the Fraud That Was Theranos and The Utter Fraud That Is Elizabeth Holmes. Even if you’ve read the book, it’s both a lively recounting of how the scam developed and the willingness–nay, eagerness!–of supposedly savvy people and companies to be duped. The reviewer also reveals that Mr. Carreyrou wasn’t the first to raise questions about Theranos after raves in the press and kudos from the prestigious likes of Eric Topol. Mr. Carreyrou’s first article was in October 2015 [TTA 16 Oct 15] whereas Kevin Loria wrote the first exposé in Business Insider on 25 April 15 which raised all the fundamental questions which Theranos spun, hyped, or otherwise ignored–and Mr. Carreyrou eventually answered. (Our blow by blow, from him and other sources, is here.)
The review also picks out from the book the scabrous bits of Ms. Holmes’ delusions; her makeover to become the blond Aryan female Steve Jobs mit Margaret Keane-ish waif eyes–something she took far too literally; the affair between her and Sunny Balwani, certainly in violation of the usual ethics–and her Hitler in the Bunker, April ’45 behavior as Theranos collapsed around her.
The review concludes by telling the healthcare community something we need said plainly, often, and written in 50-foot letters:
Theranos is a good reminder to healthcare dabblers. Your customer is the patient, not your investors or partners. You can’t just throw product at the wall and see what sticks when your technology is used to diagnose, treat, or manage disease. Your inevitable mistakes could kill someone. Your startup hubris isn’t welcome here and it will be recalled with great glee when you slink away with tail between legs. Have your self-proclaimed innovation and disruption reviewed by someone who knows what they’re talking about before trotting out your hockey-stick growth chart. And investors, company board members, and government officials, you might be the only thing standing between a patient in need and glitzy, profitable technology that might kill them even as a high-powered founder and an army of lawyers try to make you look the other way.
In other words, what you (the innovator, the investor) is holding is not a patient’s watch, it could be his heart, lungs, or pancreas. (Musical interlude: ‘Be Careful, It’s My Heart’)
The Theranos Effect is real in terms of investment in small companies out there on the ‘bleeding edge’. The cooling is mostly salutory, and we’ve been seeing it since late last year (see here). But…will we remember after it wears off, after the fines are collected, the prison time is served?
The Theranos Story, ch. 50: DOJ indicts Holmes, Balwani for fraud (updated)
June 16, 2018 | by Donna Cusano | No Comments
[grow_thumb image=”http://telecareaware.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/jacobs-well-texas-woe1.jpg” thumb_width=”150″ /]The other shoe drops into this bottomless well. If Elizabeth Holmes and Sunny Balwani thought that the March SEC action [TTA 15 Mar] would be it, they were misinformed. Today, the Department of Justice, US Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of California, charged them with two counts of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and nine counts of wire fraud. According to CNBC, they were arraigned in US District Court in San Jose Friday morning. Both were released on $500,000 bond each and ordered to surrender their passports. Holmes’ parents appeared with her in court.
If found guilty, both Ms. Holmes and Mr. Balwani face up to 20 years in prison, plus $250,000 in fines and clawing back of investor funds.
“Wire fraud” in US law is fraud that is enabled and takes place over phone lines or involves electronic communications. By appearing online, making phone calls, emailing materials such as marketing materials, statements to the media, financial statements, models, and other information, Ms. Holmes and Mr. Balwani defrauded potential investors. Patients and doctors were defrauded by ads and other types of solicitations to use Theranos’ blood testing services at Walgreens, despite the fact that they knew the test results were unreliable.
Both Ms. Holmes and Mr. Balwani will have plenty of time to explain their sincere belief that their test devices and methods would be validated with time…but they had to, in Silicon Valley parlance, fake it till they made it. Indictments of this type take about two years to conclude, especially if they are big (as a formerly $9 bn valued company is) and tangled. Ms. Holmes will undoubtedly release statements on how she is being martyred like Saint Joan, how this doesn’t happen to men in Silicon Valley, and that they are allowed to fail but she can’t. Perhaps she was under the spell of the 19 years-her-senior Svengali Balwani. (Minus the Jobsian black turtlenecks, one anticipates her next choice of wardrobe. Sackcloth tied with a rope? Chain mail?)
Expect the doors to shut soon. Fortress Investment Group, which loaned Theranos $65 million (of a reported $100 million) in December 2017, was reportedly coming for the assets (as they are wont to do) by the end of July, according to the Wall Street Journal and other sources.
Ms. Holmes is–finally–removed as CEO. Theranos announced that David Taylor, the company’s general counsel, has been appointed CEO as well as general counsel, while Ms. Holmes will remain as founder and board chair. None of this is reflected on their website. In fact, Mr. Taylor is nowhere to be found on the website’s leadership page.
The estimable John Carreyrou, who broke the story in the WSJ and is the author of Bad Blood [TTA 13 June], on The Street’s Technically Speaking podcast at 06:00 shared this insight on how Theranos got away with bad tests. While both FDA and CMS highly regulate lab testing and the machines that perform them, neither actively police “lab-developed tests, which refer to tests fashioned with their own methods and devices” for blood testing. Basically, according to Mr. Carreyrou, Holmes and Balwani, our Bonnie and Clyde, “drove a truck right thru that loophole and took advantage of it.” Far beyond B&C, $1 bn of investors’ money is the Federal Reserve of banks.
On the indictment: WSJ, CNBC. The Northern District release on the indictment is here. Another essay by Mr. Carreyrou published 18 May is available to those who can get past the paywall. Hat tip to Bill Oravecz of WTO Consultants.
Updated: For additional coverage of what’s next in the legal vein for Holmes and Balwani, see the NY Times on potential defense strategies for the duo, including that they truly believed what they were saying to investors was true and they were bamboozled like everyone else, ‘materiality’–that investors didn’t use the statements as a basis for investing, and ‘prove it’. Will they take a plea deal? Stay tuned.
The Theranos Story, ch. 34: It’s a conspiracy! It’s a vendetta!
January 20, 2017 | by Donna Cusano | No Comments
[grow_thumb image=”http://telecareaware.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/jacobs-well-texas-woe1.jpg” thumb_width=”150″ /]Updated Well, that is what one of her major investors says, and he would know! Just when we thought that a week would go by with not a peep about Theranos, we get three. Peeps, that is.
First, the Conspiracy Theory. This is being propounded by early Theranos investor Tim Draper of Silicon Valley VC Draper Fisher Jurvetson. It was all John Carreyrou’s ‘strange vendetta’ against her, to wit: “Elizabeth is the victim of a witch hunt.” The Wall Street Journal reporter set off a cascade of press coverage that compelled, nay, forced Federal regulators (FDA, CMS, SEC, DOJ) and state counterparts to go after Theranos and CEO Elizabeth Holmes. Mr Draper bluntly accused Mr Carreyrou of doing it for money; “the guy is getting $4 million to continue this charade”, referring to the advance on his book proposal “Bad Blood”. The most nauseating part of the Ars Technica interview is this mock-libertarian rejoinder from Mr Draper: “It’s the press creating a series of events that negatively impact technology, progress and our economy.”
So it was all a mistake, an illusion–there was nothing significantly wrong with the Edison Lab, or Theranos’ business practices! (Hat tip to Bill Oravecz of Stone Health Innovations)
Mr Draper perhaps did not consider that Mr Carreyrou’s reporting blew up the $100 million investment of the WSJ‘s owner, Rupert Murdoch (Ch. 27), not just DFJ’s. And Safeway, Walgreens, Larry Ellison, Cox Enterprises, Bechtel Group….
Second, the belated reporting of deficiencies at the Scottsdale lab found by CMS (Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services) on 29 September. According to the Wall Street Journal report (co-authored by Mr Carreyrou), “Theranos responded to the inspection findings in Arizona with a plan to correct its lab deficiencies, but the lab regulator in November rejected the plan and proposed sanctions for the Arizona lab as well.” This preceded the closing of all labs and the ‘refocusing’ of Theranos on the miniLab. Their general counsel stated, “After months of careful consideration, and prior to CMS’s unannounced inspection in Arizona, Theranos decided to close its laboratories.” Usually, these CMS reports are issued after 90 days. Theranos is appealing the sanctions arising from the California lab inspection with an administrative law judge, which include lab license revocation and a two-year ban on Ms Holmes from blood-testing operations.
Third, Theranos announced an eight-person Technology Advisory Board (TAB) to be led by Dr. Channing Robertson and Howie Rosen. The academics, executives, and entrepreneurs will be charged with “reviewing specific Theranos technology initiatives associated with product development, design and deployment” as well as four other mandates. Analogies concerning horses, roads and the status of barn doors come to mind. Release.
And finally another Theranos Washington connection, besides new SecDef and ‘Warrior Monk’ James Mattis, now an alumnus. It seems that the vetting of Betsy DeVos, nominee for Secretary of the Department of Education, uncovered that she has an investment in Theranos of more than $1 million. However, the Office of Government Ethics also reported her whopping earnings of less than $201. Since others like Rupert Murdoch, Bechtel, Walgreens, Cox, and others ponied up $50 to $100 million, hers is a mere bag of shells by comparison. MedCityNews, who has dubbed it the ‘As Theranos Turns’ soap opera. Hat tip to Bill Oravecz of Stone Health Innovations.
See here for the 33 previous TTA chapters in this Continuing, Consistently Amazing Saga, including Arizona’s lawyering up for a prospective Theranos lawsuit (Ch. 33) the firing of 155 remaining staff (Ch. 32), the resignation of now-DOD Secretary General Mattis from the BOD (Ch. 31), and Theranos’ annus horribilis (Ch. 30).
Rock Health announces its Top 50 in digital health (US)
December 6, 2016 | by Donna Cusano | No Comments
This Editor observes that digital health is at the state of maturity (so to speak) where entities assemble a Top 50 list and host a dinner to pass out awards. Rock Health, Fenwick & West, Goldman Sachs and Square 1 Bank cast a wide net from investment to startups in their just-released list. (Of course there will be a glitzy dinner, soon, at the kickoff of the JP Morgan Healthcare Conference, 9 – 12 January 2017 in San Francisco. Want an invite?)
Of great delight is an award to John Carreyrou of the Wall Street Journal as Reporter of the Year for his investigative work on Theranos. Other highlights are Validic (clinical/wellness data integrator) as Fastest Growing Company, Evolent Health for Best Performing IPO and BSX Technologies‘ LVL hydration monitor as Crowdfunding Hero (having raised $1.1 million when goal was $50,000). Rock Health website
What is increasingly curious to this Editor is that digital health companies, in nearly all cases, aren’t crossing borders and oceans. Every one seems to stick and be unique to its own country of origin, creatures of their own unique petri dish.
Also in other Rock Health news, having evolved a position as a venture fund/business support provider, they have added to their list of prominent partners kidney care and medical group operator DaVita. Rock Health release.
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Gathering 22 – Tickets On Sale
THE GATHERING 22
Friday 31st of January, Saturday 1st & Sunday 2nd February 2014
Venue Cymru, Llandudno, North Wales LL30 1BB
THE GATHERING – A NEW CHAPTER IN THE BOOK OF OUR LIVES
A New Chapter in the long running history of the Gathering begins on January 31st 2014 when Mike Peters brings The Gathering 22 to Venue Cymru, Llandudno [taking place in The Hall which was the much loved residence of this unique event from G4 to G14].
Be a part of the family.
The Gathering 22 will build on the experiences of the last four years with a full itinerary of exciting events throughout the duration of the weekend. Building on the success of the Gathering in Prestatyn, everything will happen ‘under one roof’, except for the hotel accommodation which can be booked via our Gathering accommodation link and tailored to suit each and every individual, according to taste and budget. [Please note that there will not be one designated Gathering Hotel so please feel free to stay with your party wherever you choose. Many past Gatherers will already have their favourite hotel/B&B and all Early Bird Gatherers will be guaranteed access to the Aftershow which will take place all under one roof at Venue Cymru].
Mike Peters is very excited personally about The Gathering’s New Chapter in Llandudno and is already working on something very special to unveil as an exclusive for G22.
The weekend itinerary will be as follows:
Friday January 31st – RED POPPY STAGE
Mike Peters & Band – Acoustic in the Round
LOVE HOPE STRENGTH STAGE
Midnight Special with special guest.
Saturday February 1st – LOVE HOPE STRENGTH LOUNGE
Guitar Masterclass with Mike Peters
12:00 Alarm Mastermind
14:00 Sixty Minutes Q&A with Mike Peters
21st CENTURY STAGE
Mike Peters And The Alarm
In-Concert
Best of the best as voted for by fans from around the world.
LOVE HOPE STRENGTH LOUNGE
Sunday February 2nd
Love Hope Strength Walkathon
To the end of the pier and back
Sunday morning communal sing-a-long with Mike Peters at the end of the beautiful Victorian pier on Llandudno Promenade!
Tickets for The Gathering 22 are on sale now priced at £75 (plus £3 booking fee), and all early applicants will be guaranteed access to The Aftershow on both Friday and Saturday nights.
NB: A limited allocation of child tickets (under 16) are also available in store
The Gathering 22 – A New Chapter in the Book of our Lives
The Gathering has enjoyed four very succesful years in Prestatyn and we would like to thank you for your wonderful support. The decision to move the event was not taken lightly and was based on the result of careful consideration, gathered from fan feedback and logistical changes at both Pontins, Prestatyn Sands and Venue Cumru, Llandudno.
Please note that itinerary is subject to change.
The Alarm in Manila
Vail Rocks with Mike Peters
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Kirk Family Band
Kirk Family Band: Proto Blog
Mon, Dec 31st, 2007 12:00 AM PST
New Years Needham
This event was a massive success for all the venues and perfoamnces. We had 200 people - great crowd all ages and a really warm reception. Katherine was great on keys and harmonica, Jackson as usual laid down the killer sax and guitar. Just a great time- Thanks to you all!
Tue, Oct 30th, 2007 12:00 AM PDT
Peace event in NH
Thank you to everyone who came to the event organized by Sue Hay and Mothers Uniting" I think we will be doing more with you guys. Special thanks to the kids who joined in the band. Peace to you all.
Wed, Jun 6th, 2007 12:00 AM PDT
Village Fair Newton
Outsorrs in the sun for a 45 minute set. Very mellow and happy crowd. Thansk to everyone for a great early summer musical day.
Sat, Apr 28th, 2007 12:00 AM PDT
Boyle's 40th - BC Club
Not only did we enjoy ourselves for this gig but as oyle said _Everyone just en joy myself" - so we did that also. Glad to provide Jim with a microphone - good time had by all...
Fri, Mar 30th, 2007 12:00 AM PDT
Lincoln Street Coffee
Peter asked us back again and Katherine was on Piano for the set. It was a wonderful and fune time! Thanks for all your support!
Fri, Jan 5th, 2007 12:00 AM PST
Peace on Earth Event 12-30
Melida and Carlos Arredondo organized this event to fund raise for peace efforts. It was a blast to play and very sobering and informative during the learning sessions. We opened for Pat Scanlon at the first annual Peace on Earth event at the UCC church in JP. Their freind Luis Jara joined us on drums - pictures to eb posted soon. It was a good size crowd of about 75. So many wonderful and peaceful people. Carlos left to be in Seattle for the Lt. Watada trial. We will post a link to "people united for peace" - Thank you to everyone for such a warm reception.
Mon, Nov 20th, 2006 12:00 AM PST
Recent Coverage in Needham Times /Veteran's for Peace
Full story at the following ling or excerpt below http://www.gsfso.org/WeCannotBeComplacent.html
The John Kirk Family Band set a mood of peace and remembrance with father John on guitar, harmonica,
and voice, son Jackson on a bluesy sax and daughter Catherine and Jackson alternating on piano. Kirk also
offered commentary:
This [resignation] was a major shift in the political landscape, but it also says
something about the moral bankruptcy of our president that it wasn't the number of dead but the 51
senators that moved him to action."
Sat, Oct 21st, 2006 12:00 AM PDT
Samaritans Benefit with Debora Jackson
What a blast - Blue set with Debora "The Voice" Jackson Rev at the baptist church. Curtis Rheingold on drums. Its about as loud and rocking as we have played. The other youth bands were so welcoming and the whole event was fun for all. Unfortunatley the event ended tragiclaly with the news of the deaths of two Needham youth in a car accident. There is so much more work we have to do.
Sun, Jul 2nd, 2006 12:00 AM PDT
My old college buddy Jim Bejamin lead the Akin Gump team which wrote the brief for the Hamden case. See press below - He is making a difference. I am proud to know him.
- Statement by Barry Kamins, President of the NYC Bar Association,
Regarding the Supreme Court’s Decision In Hamdan v. Rumsfeld
The New York City Bar Association applauds the decision of the United States Supreme Court in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, which ruled that the military commissions created by President Bush’s Executive Order in November, 2001, cannot be used to try detainees designated by the president as “enemy combatants.” The Association participated as an amicus in this case, and the issues addressed in Hamdan have occupied the Association for nearly five years. In December, 2001, the Association issued a comprehensive report on the military commissions, by its Committee on Military Affairs and Justice, in which we criticized many aspects of the commission framework and process, and stressed the utility of the military law system and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. In his majority opinion in Hamdan, Justice Stevens relied heavily on the availability and integrity of the military justice system in reaching his decision.
The Association also has consistently maintained that persons designated as enemy combatants are covered by Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions. While the Geneva Conventions are generally perceived as applying to prisoners of war, Common Article 3 establishes a level of basic protection for all those detained in the course of conflicts such as the current conflict with al Qaeda. The government argued that these detainees as a result of the conflict with al Qaeda are not covered by the Geneva Conventions, and thus are essentially unprotected by any law. The Supreme Court today ruled squarely that Article 3 applies to these detainees. This necessarily provides the detainees with not only procedural protections but also the right to humane treatment, a right that had been flatly rejected by the Bush administration.
The Hamdan decision is a historic affirmation of the separation of powers, and checks and balances, which are the hallmark of our constitutional system. It also underscores the primacy of the rule of law in this country. No person or institution is above it. And, the decision gives meaning to our treaty obligations, as one nation in a community of nations that have legally obligated themselves to the preservation of human rights.
The Association thanks the firm of Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Feld LLP and its team led by James Benjamin for its amicus brief that so effectively presented our position on Common Article 3. The Association will continue to engage the fundamental questions of the structure of government, our legal obligations and the balance between civil liberties and national security in these challenging times.
The Association of the Bar of the City of New York (www.nycbar.org) was founded in 1870, and since then has been dedicated to maintaining the high ethical standards of the profession, promoting reform of the law, and providing service to the profession and the public.
Sat, May 6th, 2006 12:00 AM PDT
Thank you to everyone who came to the Rock for Research benefit gig last night at Lincoln Street Coffee. You donated over $300 for the Jimmy fund which was fantastic. Thank you - Pat Keating was delighted.
You folks must have bought some coffee and pastry also because Peter asked us back in the fall. Hope to do the usual NH festival and bar hop this summer. We'll keep you posted. Thank you all for all of your generous support and time. Peace John
Tue, May 2nd, 2006 12:00 AM PDT
Site Song Order Narrative
The Poem Blue America (next entry below) is an attempt to tie each of the songs on the CD together into a coherant narrative. Perhaps a little background is called for here. Of all the songs we play regularly, we selected the songs on "whererwegoin" because they were written to address issues of war and peace. Having defined the set of songs we needed an order for the printed CD. In the end we chose the order based on the principle that we should put those songs which best represent our sound - balanced sax and voice - first and then alternate songs based on their emotional content (like a gig set). We specifically resisted the temptation to force a narrative onto the song order - like a false kind of conceit - like a 70s concept album. But here on the site under the music tab we have had the chance to experiement with mutiple song orders. Playing with that process late into the evening we found that a narrative emerged which makes some sense. Check it out below or under the music tab. Under the music tab each line of the poem is shown with the song which inspired it and you can listen to each song in sequence to have a kind of musicaL narrative experience. Give it a try and let us know what you think... Below is the poem alone.
whererwegoin
In Blue America
The People Have Hope
When A Soldier Dies
When A Parent Remembers
When Our Coutry Betrays Its Principles
And Torture Leaves Its Scars On All Of Us
You Can't Stop Us On Our Road To Freedom
We Will Guide The Children
Away From Empty Pride And Greed
Beacuse Its Not In The Road That You Walk - Its Where And When That you Choose To Smile
It's Listening To The Spirit
If We Act On What We Hear, We Can Make a Small But True Contribution
And Share The Vision Of Justice With Others
So That Hope Will Spread To All The People
Thu, Apr 27th, 2006 12:00 AM PDT
The new CD whererwegoin came in finally today. Looks good - Sounds good CD Baby will have it for sale in about 10 days - more to come - JK
Fri, Feb 3rd, 2006 12:00 AM PST
Show Last Friday
Just a brief note to thank everyone who cam eout last friday for the show put on by Pat Keating and company of Rock4Research at Lincoln Street Coffee House in Newton Highlands. It was a great night with a truly warm spirit in the room. Folks came from all over. Thank you to everyone who made the trip. Looks like we may do it again in April. Watch for the performance to be shown on Roots Rock Live in the next month or so. Peace
Wed, Jan 4th, 2006 12:00 AM PST
Love is Alive
Last week about 10 children and 4 adults agthered and recorded as a group. Folks from The Congragationa Church in Needham, Southfield and friends. We produced two songs one of which is on the site under music in a raw form "Love is Alive" and the other is coming soon. The children ranged in age from 15 to 7 and the room was small and hot but the everyone was so focused on the music they did not seem to care. We all had a ton of laughs, and did great singing and applauded one another, just a real positive experince. Please pass along feedback and we will pass it to the kids.
Sun, Dec 4th, 2005 12:00 AM PST
Some folks might remeber us playing on Pat Keating's Roots Rock Live TV program in the early fall. Based on a conversation with the guys from Sister Hazel Pat is starting an organization to raise money for cancer research and asked us to play at the opening January 20. See the dates tab fo more info - should be a great show ...
Sat, Dec 3rd, 2005 12:00 AM PST
Whoa - its beena hectic Fall and left unattended this website has been active. Folks from over 40 countries have downloaded the music. We have a bunch of invitations to play from England to North Carolina to New Mexico. Thinking about maybe playing on a family trip this summer. Pretty exciting! Looking to record a bunch more stuff over Christmas time and will keep folks posted. Thanks to everyone who signed up for the mailing list. We will be in touch.
Sat, Sep 3rd, 2005 12:00 AM PDT
We recorded Heaven Help Me as planned at the end of August - posted now under music. This song is as close to the sound we have been trying for as we have gotten so far. Have a listen! Also looking for someone who can connect the song with clips of the horrendous New Orleans situation and make something, which will really communicate and raise the general consciousness regarding poverty, racism and power in America. Kids are holding a bake sale to raise money for the victims. Still trying to figure out what to do…
Wed, Aug 31st, 2005 12:00 AM PDT
Just back from crawford - it was unbeleivable. Really moving and wonderful. more soon - just too tired for now. But peace is possible. That is for certain.
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March 30, 2017 | La Habra, Musical, Mysterium, News, Press Releases, Theater, Uncategorized Like Comments Off on Mysterium Theatre at the La Habra Depot Playhouse needs your support! |
Mysterium Theatre at the La Habra Depot Playhouse needs your support!
(photo courtesy: Robert Ladd)
A Message from the Mysterium Theatre:
“Two years ago, we moved to this wonderful historic building and we are doing renovations and putting on between 15-21 shows each season. We just got hit with some pretty big expenses and the rights to several shows coming up are larger than we had hoped. We have some fantastic folks both on and off stage that have come along for the adventure of creating art that the community desperately needs. We are also developing an after school program to have the future generation fall in love and participate in the arts – singing, dancing, acting on set, lighting design and much more. At the moment we need an immediate 2,500.00.” Taken from the website
March 28, 2016 | La Habra, Musical, Mysterium, Review, Uncategorized Like Comments Off on Fame: The Musical @ Mysterium Theater – Review |
Fame: The Musical @ Mysterium Theater – Review
Written by Daniella Litvak
Fame is the hit movie from the 1980s, featuring teenagers dancing in the streets of New York City to the proclamation of “Fame! I’m gonna live forever/I’m gonna learn how to fly (high!)”–these lyrics have since become an indelible part of pop culture. The film won two Academy Awards for Best Original Song and Best Original Score. It spawned two television series – a reality show competition –and even a film remake in 2009. Most importantly, Fame: The Musical made its stage debut in 1988 and has been performed around the world at all levels ever since. Continue Reading
March 21, 2016 | La Habra, Mysterium, Uncategorized, Video Like Comments Off on Fame : The Musical “Fame” Performed By The Mysterium Theater – Video |
Fame : The Musical “Fame” Performed By The Mysterium Theater – Video
Fame – the Musical is a stage musical based on the 1980 hit musical film Fame which starred Irene Cara and featured the famous title song. The show had its world premiere in Florida, USA in 1988 before it transferred to an Off-Broadway venue in 2003. The show was conceived and developed by David de Silva, who was one of the original producers of the film. After the film’s success, a television series was mounted and it ran for six seasons. The musical was developed away from the film and TV adaptations, and although there are similarities, their scripts and book are fundamentally different. The score for the musical was completely re-written and the title track only included as an addition. This talented and energetic cast brings new life into the story set in the 1980’s high school of the performing arts. Taken from the Youtube page
March 17 – April 10 2016
September 8, 2015 | La Habra, Musical, Mysterium, Review, Uncategorized 2 Comments Off on Mysterium Theatre presents – Jekyll & Hyde the Musical @ The La Habra Depot Playhouse in La Habra – Review |
Mysterium Theatre presents – Jekyll & Hyde the Musical @ The La Habra Depot Playhouse in La Habra – Review
Written by Zack Johnston
Beloved musical thriller Jekyll & Hyde opened at the Mysterium Theatre on Friday, September 4th.
Dr. Jekyll is a sophisticated yet tenacious scientist fascinated with the concepts of good and evil, who conducts unorthodox experiments on himself. These result in an alternate, wicked personality forming inside of him that wreaks havoc on the streets of London.
In a valiant effort spearheaded by Co-directors Jessica Taylor and Stacee Tweedlie, an impressively talented cast makes this dark classic an enjoyable spectacle, but the show remains in the realm of amateurism. Taylor and Tweedlie’s production excels because of their own talented performances, as well as those from the other principal performers, but it falls flat in its execution and staging.
Glaring shortcomings in the design and direction aspects of the production are riddled throughout the performance. However, among the fumbling transitions and awkward blocking, there are glimpses of passionate and authentic talent.
Actor Adam Clinton Photo credit: Amy Lauren Gettys
Playing the show’s titular characters in an impressive dual performance is Adam Bradley Clinton. His striking tenor vocals make him amazing to watch. When the charming Dr. Jekyll transforms into the devious Mr. Hyde, Clinton displays remarkable physicality in his performance.
A greater distinction between the Jekyll and Hyde characters could make for a more profound performance, but Clinton still manages to be direct and full of energy in every moment.
Mark Slama plays Dr. Jekyll’s soon-to-be father-in-law. In his portrayal of Carew, the seasoned actor delivers an elegant blend of support for Jekyll’s endeavors intermingled with concern for his wellbeing. A character with similar intentions is Dr. Jekyll’s close friend and attorney, John Utterson. John Korbonski performs the part of this level-headed lawyer with an appropriate amount of sternness and compassion.
With her superb soprano voice, Taylor plays Jekyll’s adoring fiancee Emma. Throughout her performance, Taylor is able to maintain Emma’s unconditional love for her future husband despite the harrowing perils they face. Tweedlie plays the part of the alluring temptress, Lucy. Tweedlie displays the anguish and hurt that envelopes Lucy’s character. As Lucy becomes infatuated with both Jekyll Hyde, Tweedlie demonstrates great character development in her performance.
Even in an outstanding ensemble cast, Judy Ballard’s charisma and charming humor cannot be forgotten. Her performance in the role of Nellie is excellent.
Mysterium Theatre’s production of Jekyll & Hyde may be a bit rough around the edges, but within those edges there is promising talent and a timeless story. Jekyll & Hyde plays through Sept. 27.
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Mysterium Theatre presents : As You Like It @ Brio Park in La Habra – Review
When you think of Shakespeare’s plays, As You Like It doesn’t immediately come to mind. If the list is limited to Shakespeare’s comedies, it might barely make the top five. Still for some reason, it’s a perennial favorite of summer Shakespeare in the park productions, lets explore the reasons why.
Here’s what happens. Rosalind is the niece of a Duke who usurped and exiled her father. For a while he tolerated Rosalind, but then one day he decided she had to go too. So Rosalind and Celia –the usurping Duke’s daughter and Rosalind’s cousin/BFF –disguise themselves –Rosalind passing herself off as a boy –and run away. Meanwhile, Orlando –the young nobleman Rosalind has fallen for —is fed up with his brother’s mistreatment and runs away too. They all wind up in the Forest of Arden and encounter hippies. (Did I mention Mysterium Theatre sets the play in the 60s? Or it might be Mysterium thinks people from Shakespeare’s time dressed in and listened to music from that decade. I’m not sure which). Anyway, everyone ends up falling in love with or hating one another, and it’s up to Rosalind to straighten out this love dodecahedron. Continue Reading
April 14, 2015 | Mysterium, Review, Theater, Uncategorized Like Comments Off on Flying High – Peter Pan @ Mysterium Theatre in La Habra – Review |
Flying High – Peter Pan @ Mysterium Theatre in La Habra – Review
During its long history, Peter Pan has acquired quite a few traditions. Mysterium Theater’s production of the show strikes the right balance between using some of those conventions while also being unafraid to embrace the more recent trends or go in entirely new directions.
The first step away from the traditional was the choice to stage Jordan Beck and Jonathan May’s relatively recent musical adaptation as opposed to the more popular 1954 adaptation or J.M. Barrie’s original stage play. Even bolder choices are made with the costuming and casting. Hook still wears a scarlet coat. Michael has his teddy bear. The Lost Boys’ costumes feature animal motifs. But John doesn’t have his top hat. Pan doesn’t wear green and Captain Hook’s hook is covered in glitter. Oh, and a boy (Jonny Vazquez) plays Peter Pan while a woman (Judy Ballard) portrays Captain Hook. (Actually women play all the pirates –except Smee, and no, Ballard does not play Mr. Darling).
Casting a woman as Hook (even though in-universe Hook is considered a man) is particularly inspired for thematic reasons. In this version, Wendy is the Darling child who longs to be a pirate. These two choices transform Hook from merely being Peter Pan’s arch-nemesis into Wendy’s evil counterpart. Pan and Hook’s climatic showdown is no longer a fight over a damsel in distress but a real battle for Wendy’s identity. Ok, maybe I’m overanalyzing this, but I love the show for giving me a new perspective.
For the most part the acting is good. The main flaw being there are times when the music overpowers the vocals. Vazquez owns it as the brash and mischievous Peter Pan, but I was amazed with how great he is when playing Pan as a genuinely vulnerable and wounded boy. His duet with Michaela Varvis’ Wendy is incredibly touching. Varvis rises up to the challenge of playing the role with the most character development. London Walston is a rising star in the Orange County theater scene. I liked him in Alchemy Theatre’s Waiting For Godot, and I was happy to see him here as Michael. Canaan Clayton’s John had some of the funniest (and best) moments in the show as well as one of the strongest singing voices.
The show uses skateboards and swings to simulate flying, and it works. The sets are probably the most traditional aspect of the show –a typical Darling nursery and pirate ship. The traditional sets are contrasted well with the use of more modern props like the lightsaber and foam bat; John and Michael use them for play sword fights. Taken together, it gives the impression Peter Pan could whisk anyone away to Neverland at any time from any place, instead of keeping the story tied to turn of the century London.
Mysterium Theater’s Peter Pan was a wonderful surprise and a great reminder of how there are infinite ways to tell a story.
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AngloZionist: Short primer for the newcomers
103881 Views September 03, 2014 206 Comments Anglo-Zionism, Blog, Blog, Community News and Announcements The Saker
“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize“
Dear new-to-this blog friends,
Why do I speak of “AngloZionists”? I got that question many times in the past, so I will make a separate post about it to (hopefully) explain this once and for all.
1) Anglo:
The USA in an Empire. With roughly 1000 overseas bases (depends on how you count), a undeniably messianic ideology, a bigger defense offense budget then the rest of the planet combined, 16+ spy agencies, the dollar as work currency there is no doubt that the US is a planetary Empire. Where did the US Empire come from? Again, that’s a no brainer – from the British Empire. Furthermore, the US Empire is really based on a select group of nations: the Echelon countries, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the UK and, of course, the US. What do these countries have in common? They are the leftovers of the British Empire and they are all English speaking. Notice that France, Germany or Japan are not part of this elite even though they are arguably as important or more to the USA then, say, New Zealand and far more powerful. So the “Anglo” part is undeniable. And yet,
even though “Anglo” is an ethnic/linguistic/cultural category while “Zionist” is a political/ideological one, very rarely do I get an objection about speaking of “Anglos” or the “Anglosphere”.
2) Zionist
Let’s take the (hyper politically correct) Wikipedia definition of what the word “Zionism” means: it is “a nationalist movement of Jews and Jewish culture that supports the creation of a Jewish homeland in the territory defined as the Land of Israel“. Apparently, no link to the US, the Ukraine or Timbuktu, right? But think again. Why would Jews – whether defined as a religion or an ethnicity – need a homeland anyway? Why can’t they just live wherever they are born, just like Buddhist (a religion) or the African Bushmen (ethnicity) who live in many different countries? The canonical answer is that Jews have been persecuted everywhere and that therefore they need their own homeland to serve as a safe haven in case of persecutions. Without going into the issue of why Jews were persecuted everywhere and, apparently, in all times, this rationale clearly implies if not the inevitability of more persecutions or, at the very least, a high risk thereof. Let’s accept that for demonstration sake and see what this, in turn, implies. First, that implies that Jews are inherently threatened by non-Jews who are all at least potential anti-Semites. The threat is so severe that a separate Gentile-free homeland must be created as the only, best and last way to protect Jews worldwide. This, in turn, implies that the continued existence of this homeland should become an vital and irreplaceable priority of all Jews worldwide lest a persecution suddenly breaks out and they have nowhere to go. Furthermore, until all Jews finally “move up” to Israel, they better be very, very careful as all the goyim around them could literally come down with a sudden case of genocidal anti-Semitism at any moment. Hence all the anti-anti-Semitic organizations a la ADL or UEJF, the Betar clubs, the network of sayanim, etc. In other words, far from being a local “dealing with Israel only” phenomenon, Zionism is a worldwide movement whose aim is to protect Jews from the apparently incurable anti-Semitism of the rest of the planet. As Israel Shahak correctly identified it, Zionism postulates that Jews should “think locally and act globally” and when given a choice of policies always ask THE crucial question: “But is it good for Jews?“. So far from being only focused on Israel, Zionism is really a global, planetary, ideology which unequivocally split up all of mankind into two groups (Jews and Gentiles), which assumes that the latter are all potential genocidal maniacs (which is racist) and believes that saving Jewish lives is qualitatively different and more important than saving Gentile lives (which is racist again). Anyone doubting the ferocity of this determination should either ask a Palestinian or study the holiday of Purim, or both. Even better, read Gilad Atzmon and look up his definition of what is brilliantly called “pre-traumatic stress disorder”
3) Anglo-Zionist
The British Empire and the early USA used to be pretty much wall to wall Anglo. Sure, Jews had a strong influence (in banking for example), but Zionism was a non-issue not only amongst non-Jews, but also amongst US Jews. Besides, religious Jews were often very hostile to the notion of a secular Israel while secular Jews did not really care about this quasi Biblical notion. WWII definitely gave a massive boost to the Zionist movement while, as Norman Finkelstein explained it, the topic of the “Holocaust” became central to Jewish discourse and identity only many years later. I won’t go into the history of the rise to power of Jews in the USA, but from roughly Ford to GW Bush’s Neocons it has been steady. And even though Obama initially pushed them out, they came right back in through the backdoor. Right now, the only question is whether US Jews have more power than US Anglos or the other way around. Before going any further, let me also immediately say that I am not talking about Jews or Anglos as a group, but I am referring to the top 1% within each of these groups. Furthermore, I don’t believe that the top 1% of Jews cares any more about Israel or the 99% of Jews than the top 1% of Anglos care about the USA or the Anglo people. So, here my thesis:
The US Empire is run by a 1% (or less) elite which can be called the “deep state” which is composed of two main groups: Anglos and Jews. These two groups are in many ways hostile to each other (just like the SS and SA or Trotskysts and Stalinists), but they share 1) a racist outlook on the rest of mankind 2) a messianic ideology 3) a phenomenal propensity for violence 4) an obsession with money and greed and its power to corrupt. So they work together almost all the time.
Now this might seem basic, but so many people miss it, that I will have to explicitly state it: to say that most US elites are Anglos or Jews does not mean that most Anglos or Jews are part of the US elites. That is a straw-man argument which deliberately ignores the non commutative property of my thesis to turn it into a racist statement which accuses most/all Anglos or Jews of some evil doing. So to be very clear:
When I speak of AngloZionist Empire I am referring to the predominant ideology of the 1%ers elites which for this Empire’s “deep state”.
By the way, there are non-Jewish Zionists (Biden, in his own words) and there are (plenty of) anti-Zionist Jews. Likewise, there are non-Anglo imperialists and there are (plenty of) anti-imperialists Anglos. To speak of “Nazi Germany” or “Soviet Russia” does in now way imply that all Germans were Nazis or all Russian s Communists. All this means it that the predominant ideology of these nations at that specific moment in time was National-Socialism and Marxism, that’s all.
My personal opinion now
First, I don’t believe that Jews are a race or an ethnicity. I always doubted that, but reading Shlomo Sand really convinced me. Jews are not defined by religion either (most/many are secular). Truly, Jews are a tribe. A group one can chose to join (Elizabeth Taylor) or leave (Gilad Atzmon). In other words, I see “Jewishness” as a culture, or ideology, or education or any other number of things, but not something rooted in biology. I fully agree with Atzmon when he says that Jews are racist, but not a race. Second, I don’t even believe that the concept of “race” has been properly defined and, hence, that it has any objective meaning. I therefore don’t differentiate between human beings on the basis of an undefined criterion. Third, since being Jew (or not) is a choice, one to belong, adhere and endorse a tribe (secular Jews) or a religion (Judaics). Any choice implies a judgment call and it therefore a legitimate target for scrutiny and criticism. Fourth, I believe that Zionism, even when secular, instrumentalizes the values, ideas, myths and ethos of rabbinical Judaism (aka “Talmudism” or “Phariseism”) and both are racist in their core value and assumptions. Fifth, both Zionism and Nazism are twin brothers born from the same ugly womb: 19th century European nationalism (Brecht was right, “’The belly is still fertile from which the foul beast sprang”). Nazis and Zionists can hate each other to their hearts’ content, but they are still twins. Sixth, I reject any and all form of racism as a denial of our common humanity, a denial of the freedom of choice of each human being and – being an Orthodox Christian – as a grievous heresy. To me people who chose to identify themselves with, and as, Jews are not inherently different from any other human and they deserve no more and no less rights and protections than any other human being.
I will note here that while the vast majority of my readers of Anglos, they almost never complain about the “Anglo” part of my “AngloZionist” descriptor. The vast majority of objections focus on the “Zionist” part. You might want to think long and hard about why this is so and what it tells us about the kind of power Zionists have over the prevailing ideology. Could it be linked to the reason why the (openly racist and truly genocidal) Israeli Prime Minister gets more standing ovations in Congress (29) than the US President (25)?
Some objections:
Q: it makes you sound like a Nazi/redneck/racist/idiot/etc.
A: I don’t care. I don’t write this blog for brainwashed zombies.
Q: you turn people off.
A: if by speaking the truth and using correct descriptors I turn them off, then this blog is not for them.
Q: you can offend Jews.
A: only those who believe that their ideas cannot be challenged or criticized.
Q: but you will lose readers!!
A: this is not a popularity contest.
Q: your intentions might be good, but they are easily misinterpreted.
A: this is why I define my words very carefully and strictly.
Q: but why are you so stubborn about this?
A: because I am sick and tired of those in power hiding in the dark: let’s expose them and freely challenge them. How can you challenge something which is hidden?
Q: but I am a hasbarachnik and I need to get you to stop using that expression!!
A: give it up and find an easier target for your efforts. You will still get paid.
A: I have a much better term.
Q: Good! Use it on your blog then :-P
That’s it for now.
Actually no, there is one more thing, while I am at it:
Open message to those objecting to my use of the article ‘the’ in front of the word “Ukraine”: before lecturing others, learn Russian and learn a little something about the history of the Ukraine :-P
In conclusion, a plea: can we pretty please stop this nonsense now? There are far more important things to analyze and worry about than my use of this or that expression, word or description. If you don’t like it – great. Just consider that I am wrong (-: I often am, so I won’t take offense :-). Can we please stop pretending like Jews and Jewish related issues are The Most Important Thing In The Universe (TMITITU) and deal with the really important issues?
PS: IMPORTANT ADDENDUM: you are more than welcome to comment discuss this topic all you want, but I have wasted enough of my time on this kind of nonsense. Not being a Jew myself, I don’t have to share in any ethnocentric notion of exceptionalism and self-aggrandizement and this is why I said that the topic of Jews and Jewish issues is not TMITITU, at least not for me. So I will not respond to comments to this post, sorry. Careful though – I still loathe racism in all its forms, including anti-Jewish racism (even if Jews are not a race!), so don’t bother posting long anti-Jewish rants as I will toss them all to /dev/null. Fact based, logical and otherwise substantive comments are, of course, not only welcome, but requested. Racist shit, pardon my French, is not.
politically incorrect terminology
Anonymous on September 03, 2014 · at 4:21 pm EST/EDT
You should have some kind of a sticky or link on the front page of the blog for this definition. I find it imporant for people to understand the difference between a jew in general and a zionist (which doesnt need to be a jew by religion at all).
It’s like we live in a twilight zone where so many people and groups want to control views and opinion in such a way to obfuscate their own agenda. And they get away with it because they have so much control over western society.
Stay strong Saker! I love your blog.
Norwegian Bob
Anonymous on March 09, 2015 · at 2:52 am EST/EDT
Anon Mongoose on September 03, 2014 · at 4:23 pm EST/EDT
On the anniversary of WW2 –In the Fog of War, a cease-fire confusion.
See some leadership wanting
First there was a cease-fire said Porky’s website, then, no, not quite- just a plan of regime. Mr. Putin made clear RF is not a party to the fight but in the interest of a solution we propose a 7-step plan. Next up ARSE Yatz said No Cease-fire we do not trust Russia while Germany is ready to contribute to cease-fire in Ukraine
RT BREAKING: France caves on Mistral Warship
France says cannot deliver Mistral warship to Russia over Ukraine
Kindly refund the $1.6 billion immediately without delay.
Meanwhile in the USA: “The Justice Department said that global jurisdiction is necessary in an age when “electronic communications are used extensively by criminals of all types in the United States and abroad, from fraudsters to hackers to drug dealers, in furtherance of violations of US law.”
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/09/judge-mulls-contempt-charges-in-microsofts-e-mail-privacy-fight-with-us/
First, the website Slavyangrad will be adding a discussion forum in the future.
Second, I suggest this article on the historic sources of western fear and hatred of Russia:
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/the-eternal-collapse-russia-11126
Rootman on September 03, 2014 · at 4:30 pm EST/EDT
Totally off topic: I am quite a stoic, sometimes cynical man, but again I cried looking at the memorial of Beslan! I do not know what more to say!
Dear Mr. Saker,
+10,000% I applaud your essay on the term “Anglo-Zionist” – a primer.
Thank you; very well done. I am saving this b/c It’s a keepsake.
Alien Tech on September 03, 2014 · at 4:40 pm EST/EDT
So there is more to this than just Ukraine!
It was apparent when Merkel the nazi wanted to put more sanctions against Russia after having talked to Putin about normalizing relations..
Gold is not doing anything.. Oil is dropping.. Now both of them should have doubled in price already..
The US has shown something to the EU to make them do things the US way.. It has to be more than Ukraine.. More than US$.. something that would be as bad as WW3…
Frank Bousek on September 03, 2014 · at 4:41 pm EST/EDT
Fairly well spelled out definition of your definition of Anglo-Zionism, but your definition of racism you haven’t spelled out for us Saker. As far as I could find out the first man of prominence using and as some claim coining this term was Trocki (Bronstein, who in one of his articles accused Russians who were rejecting Bolshevism as imported philosophy by people of Jewish race.
Commander of punitive battalion Dnepr ran from combat:
http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.en/tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201409031745-thc2.htm
VINEYARDSAKER: on September 03, 2014 · at 4:52 pm EST/EDT
@Frank Bousek:but your definition of racism you haven’t spelled out for us Saker.
HA! I promised not to reply to comments but your question forces me to break my promise since I did, indeed, fail to address that in my post. So thanks for keeping me on my toes!!
Ok. I don’t believe in racism but I oppose “racism”, how is that possible? Simple? Racism is, in my opinion, not so much the belief that various human groups are different from each other, say like dog breeds can be different, but the belief that the differences between human groups are larger than within the group. Second, racism is also a belief that the biological characteristics of your group somehow pre-determine your actions/choices/values in life. Third, racism often, but not always, assume a hierarchy amongst human groups (Germanic Aryans over Slavs or Jews, Jews over Gentiles, etc.). I believe that God created all human and that we are all “brothers in Adam”, that we all equally share the image (eternal and inherent potential for perfection) of God (as opposed to likeness which is our temporary and changing individual condition).
Does that reply to your question adequately?
dennis morrisseau on December 27, 2015 · at 4:54 pm EST/EDT
The “Republic” of Key West, Florida, where i lived happily for a year, has a small white bumper sticker that says it best:
…and we must gather and talk directly to each other–not behind anonymity/labels– thus:
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802 645 9727 dmorso1@netzero.net
No fear. Message me. Join us.
Dario Alok on September 03, 2014 · at 4:56 pm EST/EDT
that’s it…. thank you again for one more precise explanation…
I like the name The Natoists
roobit on September 03, 2014 · at 5:00 pm EST/EDT
Thank you for this blog. You are a source of light, Saker.
It’s a very concise and well-timed piece from you. When you are taking so much pain to name the dark forces behind the global AngloZionist Plutocracy who mercilessly plunder the global population, and who eliminates all who resist their sinister methods and objectives, these readers create nuisance about what word is appropriate – surely many of them are agents of those dark forces, and many others are ‘gentlemen’ who would not mind if their countrymen are screwed left and right by the AngloZionist forces, but they will mind if you call those forces as ‘evil’… how strange is the world of learned peoples!
Anyway, hope you will continue to bring out excellent informative moral and truthful reports and support the movements in various corners of the world to free ourselves from these AngloZionist suckers!
Anonymous Indian
Edward on September 03, 2014 · at 5:04 pm EST/EDT
WELL DONE! It so happens that as a non-Zionist Jew, I agree with and have thought long and hard about the same subject matter. As a boy, I was accused of “Killing Christ” by-wait for it-Christians. But, I also knew that they were not “Christian”, not the real deal.
I have been to RU and a part of the former Soviet Block, and have met with Orthodox people and we recognized each others humanity. As mentioned in the article, the 1% types are the real enemy regardless of country. And, it will take responsible action by the 99% (for lack of a suitable term) to do some hard and dirty work to make things right.
Lastly, have also met Communists, usually the older generation, and they expressed their view and I mine.
dusty on September 03, 2014 · at 5:06 pm EST/EDT
Saker, your continued use of the term Anglo Zionisism is, in my opinion, an expression of faulty thinking. It is not one that you are alone in espousing. By using this term you are placing yourself on the same intellectual pedestal as such noted lunatics as David Icke. And, yes, you had to be there to see Mr Icke’s meltdown, in public to understand the depth and origin of his lunacy. I doubt that you want to be a part of that can of purple aliens.
You make some good points. You understand that ‘Jewishness’ is more than just a religion but is an expression of tribalism. The Soviets understood this, which is why they used ‘Jew’ as an expression of race. The exclusiveness of that club has been significantly diluted in modern times but that is not something that has not happened to other ‘tribes’. As a Briton and Englishman I find myself wondering very much what it is to be English in a way that Scots, Welsh and Irish do not.
You understand that there are Jews at the centre of much of western culture and that white, protestants are similarly culturally significant but by conflating ‘Englishness’ and ‘Jewishness’ you are confusing yourself and others.
You, in fact, while justifying your prejudices, made the point about what you are trying to describe and told us why your appellation is incorrect!
You told us that the power behind the throne, Deep State as you called it, is composed of those people who comprise the 1%, the most powerful people in your society. Power here being derived from money and influence in various combinations.
Now we come to the core of why your appellation is incorrect, and, again, you told us why you are wrong to use the term! You told us that while ‘Anglos’ and ‘Jews’ formed the core of the 1% those same people are found throughout the 99%. That is you told us that Anglo Zionism does not serve to describe the group you refer to because it includes much of the rest of the 99% as well.
So, what term describes the ‘Deep State’, PTB, power behind the throne?
Again, you told us what it was: The 1%
The 1% is made up of all sorts of ethnic groups or ‘tribes’, Jews, Britons, Chinese, Japanese, Whites, Africans, Asians – however you choose to describe the mess that is humanity but what they have in common is that the members of the 1% are the ones who hold the power. There’s no particular religion required, no particular ethnicity that opens the doors. Simply power and wealth.
The political issues that have enabled Israel to successfully annex so much of the wealth and power of the US is another issue; a separate thing, but none the less important, but it should not be an implicit part of your posts. You want to talk about the power of Jews in the US, do so, but be clear about it. Don’t imply that I am a part of something I am not.
So, stop using this inaccurate and emotionally sensitive term because it demeans you, confuses your thinking and alienates readers who know stuff that you choose to not acknowledge – all the verbiage above!
When I started reading this blog I did so because I saw that you offered incisive thoughts about matters of concern to me. Your choice to increasingly use terms that alienate readers and confuse others is a disappointment. Stick to terms that are accurate, not emotionally charged and that enable readers to not be confused and you will succeed to an even greater degree than you do now.
Instead of using Anglo Zionist use a term that we can relate to, is accurate and does not demonstrate a degree of prejudice that, I hope, you do not wish to communicate.
Use The 1% instead of Anglo Zionist.
gepay on December 25, 2015 · at 4:53 am EST/EDT
I think anglo-zionist is the appropriate term to use. They comprise the main core of the 1%. sure there are Tatas and Agnellis who are part of it as well as the new dynasty of familes from the heroes of the revolution running China and many other people of the world like the 500 families that run Mexico or the 30 families that run El Savador. . The PTB who call the shots are almost entirely Anglos or Zionists. Also “the 1%” is a faceless appellation. This latest system of elites started with the royal families of Europe some of whom are still members but not very powerful – Like Queen Elizabeth is still one of richest women in the world and why do they call it Royal Dutch Shell? I still don’t know which is the most influential – the Anglos or the Zionists. If anything would turn me into an a socalled anti-semite it is the actions of the Jewish apartheid state of Israel.
juliania on September 03, 2014 · at 5:08 pm EST/EDT
Thanks for being patient enough to carefully redefine your terms, Saker. It really is to your credit that there are new folk coming to this forum, and perhaps it will have to be explained again and again as it moves more into the mainstream and what is mainstream now is rejected by more people. I urge patience on all the ‘oldies’ as well; the message is a good one.
I want to comment on one small piece of your description of the ‘Anglo’ part of your explanation:-
“…they are arguably as important or more to the USA then, say, New Zealand and far more powerful. ..”
New Zealand may be small, but then again, so is Crimea. The aspect of New Zealand’s wellhidden importance is that it functions as a crucial southern communications link for NSA satellite feeds around the globe, much as a military occupation would do.
It’s not immediately obvious, just two enormous mushroom shaped buildings in the north of the South Island – Waihopai. When I first saw them I thought they were some sort of greenhouse operation, but there has been an ongoing Plowshares protest against them that has finally broken through the veil of secrecy.
This outpost is, I believe as important to Five Eyes as is Crimea to Russia.
New Zealanders are beginning to realize this, and the election there this month may begin to overturn this unfortunate state of affairs.
There is only one race and it is human race – racism comes in many shades. The most racist people are from Europe towards everything what is Russian on demand from Anglo- Zionists
Could you kindly do a primer on the Ukraine and IS issue please?
Very good post, Saker. Agree with most everything. One very slight caveat: Because of the horrors of the holocaust, people of my generation (earlier than yours) will be troubled by anything that could be interpreted as anti-semitism, even if it isn’t. I suppose that’s our problem, but it exists. A clever synonym might help.
(Oddly enough, I can’t remember much publicity about the Holocaust until at least the 1960, maybe later, when it became somewhat of an industry.)
Couple of minor points: (1) Russians say “на Украине,” while currently Ukrainians say “в Україні,” exactly analogous to “the Ukraine” vs. “Ukraine” — it’s always meant the borderland, the Ukrainians now claim it is a country.
(2) When Obama selected Rahm Emanuel as his first chief of staff, a civilian volunteer for the IDF during the 1st Gulf War,there was no doubt in my mind at least that the Zionists still had the upper hand. (They can’t get Pollard released, however, showing the U.S. military is still more or less independent.)
Saker, your continued use of the term Anglo Zionisism is, in my opinion, an expression of faulty thinking. It is not one that you are alone in espousing. ———
Natoists, let’s vote for Natoists as source of all ill in Europe and the whole world..
Natoists is a new term and strange nobody is using it, not even Russians..
Natoists does not touch Anglo, Jews, Moslem, Slavs, White, Blacks…
Vote for Natoist and nobody will be offended and DON’T use “the west” and you will stop making favor for American Imperial Nationalists.
Socho on September 10, 2015 · at 7:47 pm EST/EDT
Nato was created by England and only by England to use American power and other European small states to bully Germany and kerp Rusdia Down. Never underestimate the villainry and evil doing of that beast.
Crush the headvof the snske otherwise called angloamerican empire but is really a British empire two living off others arms(Americans) and money laundering of Russian and other nations money.http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2015/09/09/luxury-london-home-sales-plunge-26-has-this-mega-real-estate-bubble-burst/
THE CITY OF LONDON HAS TURNED BRITAIN INTO A “CIVILIZED MAFIA STATE”
Social cleansing is transforming central London into an exclusive economic zone for property speculatio
http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2015/09/09/luxury-london-home-sales-plunge-26-has-this-mega-real-estate-bubble-burst/
sweetwater on September 03, 2014 · at 5:18 pm EST/EDT
Sorry Saker, but I don’t give a fuck about the fucking Anglo/Zionists, :)!
Today, Obama: won’t accept Russian occupation of any part of Ukraina!
On September the 16th, NATO Rapid Trident Exercises begin in the Ukraine.
Do we have a problem, or it’s all right?
pogo on September 03, 2014 · at 5:18 pm EST/EDT
The Missing Link of Jewish European Ancestry: Contrasting the Rhineland and the Khazarian Hypotheses
The “Rhineland Hypothesis” envisions modern European Jews to be the descendents of theJudeans – an assortment of Israelite-Canaanite tribes of Semitic origin (Figures 1,2)(Supplementary Note 1). It proposes two mass migratory waves: the first occurred over the two hundred years following the Muslim conquest of Palestine (638 CE) and consisted of devoted Judeans who left Muslim Palestine for Europe (Dinur 1961). Whether these migrants joined the existing Judaized Greco-Roman communities is unclear, as is the extent of their contribution to the Southern European gene pool. The second wave occurred at the beginning of the 15th century by a group of 50,000 German Jews who migrated eastward and ushered an apparent hyper-baby-boom era for half a millennia (Atzmon et al. 2010). The Rhineland Hypothesis predicts a Middle Eastern ancestry to European Jews and high genetic similarity among European Jews (Ostrer 2001; Atzmon et al. 2010; Behar et al. 2010).
The competing “Khazarian Hypothesis” considers Eastern European Jews to be the descendants of Khazars (Supplementary Note 1). The Khazars were a confederation of Slavic, Scythian, Hunnic-Bulgar, Iranian, Alans, and Turkish tribes who formed in the central-northern Caucasusone of most powerful empires during the late Iron Age and converted to Judaism in the 8th century CE (Figures 1-2) (Polak 1951; Brook 2006; Sand 2009). The Khazarian, Armenian, and Georgian populations forged from this amalgamation of tribes (Polak 1951) followed by relative isolation, differentiation, and genetic drift in situ (Balanovsky et al. 2011). Biblical and archeological records allude to active trade relationships between Proto-Judeans and Armeniansin the late centuries BCE (Polak 1951; Finkelstein and Silberman 2002), that likely resulted in a small scale admixture between these populations and a Judean presence in the Caucasus. After their conversion to Judaism, the population structure of the Judeo-Khazars was further reshaped by multiple migrations of Jews from the Byzantine Empire and Caliphate to the Khazarian Empire (Figure 1). Following the collapse of their Empire and the Black Death (1347-1348) the Judeo-Khazars fled eastwards (Baron 1993), settling in the rising Polish Kingdom and Hungary (Polak 1951) and eventually spreading to Central and Western Europe. The Khazarian Hypothesis posits that European Jews are comprised of Caucasus, European, and Middle Eastern ancestries. Moreover, European Jewish communities are expected to be different from one another both in ancestry and genetic heterogeneity. The Khazarian Hypothesis also offers two explanations for the genetic diversity in Caucasus groups first by the multiple migration waves toKhazaria during the 6th to 10th centuries and second by the Judeo-Khazars who remained in the Caucasus.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/123652605/Genome-Evolution-of-Jewish-Population-John-Hopkins
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_khazar01.htm
Yonatan on September 03, 2014 · at 5:19 pm EST/EDT
Anon Mongoose 16:43
Interesting. I thought part of the first ship was built in Russia and there are Russian military in France training how to operate it. I wonder if that takes into the territory of state expropriation?
Anyway, what’s it going to be? A total ban on French agricultural products? A ban on French flights through Russian airspace? France pays for gas in rubles, renmimbi or gold? Cancellation of France’s gas supply contract?
Decisions, decisions!
I wonder what the NSA has on these people? Maybe it boil down to ‘do as we say or there will be regime change, US style’?
Is Italian ( La Italiana ) Federica Mogherini an Anglo-Zionist?
Nop.
She is a Natoist.
And Donald Dusk, what is he?
Anglo-Zionist?
Natoists
AngloZionists is much better than NWO, whatever that means…
but Lenin described it best as Imperialism being the most “advanced” form of capitalism.
Control of markets,access to resources, and cheap labour to maximize profit, isn’t that what its all about ?
The AngloZionist describes the geographical origin of the problem but not the problem itself, when you transform everything into “a for profit commodity” from art to medicine to the paper money itself, is it any wonder that such a society is corrupt and degenerate, Russia is better but sadly it’s on the same path…
CS on September 03, 2014 · at 5:22 pm EST/EDT
“you are more than welcome to comment discuss this topic all you want, but I have wasted enough of my time on this kind of nonsense”
Your analysis is not a waste of time at all. Most people are inhibited about expressing thoughts about Zionist political influence for fear (a) of being called racist, and, (b) more importantly, of being unable to defend themselves against the charge of anti-Semitism.
But since the Zionist influence on Western culture and geopolitical strategy is so powerful, these fears prevent effective participation in public debate.
By providing a well conceived framework within which to understand Zionist (and elite Anglo) influence in the West, you contribute to more productive public debate.
The concept of race is not indefinable, and is widely used by biologists. A race is simply an interbreeding population more or less isolated by geographic or other barriers to breeding with conspecific populations leading to genetic differentiation as the result of mutation, genetic drift and selective processes.
Besides geography, racial separation among humans may be the result of state boundaries, religious adherence, and divisions of class and caste.
Belonging to a single species, all human races are interfertile and as the result of migrations and conquests may split or merge.
An unpleasant feature of the Anglo-Zionist project for the New World Order is the genocidal plan to destroy human (racial) diversity through mass migrations and suppression of breeding among indigenous populations, in Europe most obviously, but globally in due course, to create everywhere a simulacrum of the American racial melting pot.
One hundred thousand years of fascinating differentiation to be thoughtlessly destroyed within a couple of generations.
Michael Droy on September 03, 2014 · at 5:22 pm EST/EDT
“The US Empire is run by a 1% (or less) elite ….. but they share 1) a racist outlook on the rest of mankind 2) a messianic ideology 3) a phenomenal propensity for violence 4) an obsession with money and greed and its power to corrupt. So they work together almost all the time.”
This is where I have a problem.
1) I just don’t see
2) I don’t even understand that.
I see a history of cock-ups, not much ideology at all. Certainly there is an empire to expand, and a desire to do it, but the cynicism comes from individuals or just mistakes, and the administrations get dragged into it.
I don’t think Bush or Blair really understood the WMD argument, they just jumped on it. I doubt more than a few dozen Americans really understood the Syrian chemical attack story even after the UN report. I suspect the US politicians have been told that proof of MH17 is not there… yet.
funnily enough i am right now listening to a BBC podcast “Did President Johnson take the US to war with Vietnam on a lie, or was he misled? DD Guttenplan explores what happened in the Gulf of Tonkin in August 1964.”
A cockup theory of poiltics.
3) Where is the violence? The decline in violence in the world continues (even in US inner cities). The US has been extremely peaceable (if not as peaceable as Russia). Whatever is happening in Ukraine or Syria, it does not compare with Vietnam, or with the CIA funding of Afghanistan.
4) I entirely accept.
There’s another aspect of the “Anglo-Zionist” thing.
Over the last 100 years or so Jews have married into the pre-existing Anglo banking elite and created a third hybrid group that are neither completely Anglo nor completely Jewish but their own separate caste.
(A similar thing happened in the Ottoman empire to create what was/is known as the Donmeh caste. It was the Donmeh caste who organized the genocide of the Armenians as they were business rivals.)
So it’s partly about this hybrid banking mafia caste who have no loyalty to anyone but themselves.
A simple way to prove the banking mafia caste controls USUK is to ask the question: Is the best way to fight America to bribe their politicians?
The answer to that question is yes.
The banking mafia have totally corrupted the US political system with party donations such that almost all current US politicians are only there because they were prepared to be bought.
That is one of the banking mafia’s weak spots. The corruption of the political system they created can be used against them.
Nazcalito on September 03, 2014 · at 5:33 pm EST/EDT
Granted that AIPAC controls Congress on the Israel issue, but what does the “Zionism” part have to do with the conflict in the Ukraine? I don’t get the connection.
AGS on September 03, 2014 · at 5:36 pm EST/EDT
To Edward — Well, as a child I was accused of being a heretic and that I’d “die and go to hell” because I wasn’t a Roman Catholic. I’m a Protestant. You’re a Jew. Maybe we were being pursued by the same mentality/tribe???
Saker (and to Bok Tak who likes to accuse me of whinging…LOL…) I cringe at the term “Anglo-Zionist” because as an Anglo I’m absolutely NOT a Zionist. That said — many Anglo’s ARE Zionists. Perhaps we can come up with a designation for those of us who are Anglos and NOT Zionists? Ya think? I thought ID’ing as a “Christian” would suffice — but obviously “Christianity” has been co-opted by ZOGs — much like Islam has been co-opted by CIA-Mossad (aka HAMAS, ISIS, etc.). True Christianity (as well as true Islam) as spiritual reality has no symbols but God. Nothing else matters. Call evil whatever you want. It’s still evil. Nothingness. Full of sound and fury — signifying nothing.
BTW — since symbols mean a great deal to the SOS (synagogue of satan) — it’s really interesting that the trident (the symbol of Ukrainian nationalists) is a Khazar symbol. You know — the ones that were Phallic worshippers and converted to judiasm in the 8th century… Evil always tells you what they’re doing. And the Tribe wants Kiev back in the Khazar sphere. I saw that unfolding ages ago. Nuland and Co just confirmed it. The trident symbol is their talisman. All “shippers” of satan need a talisman. Something they can cling to. BTW — don’t believe for a moment ISIS beheaded the Israeli journalist. Just another farce to force mind-controlled Americans into war. Onward.
The current situation in Ukraine shows that 1) Ukraine wants to cease fire and negotiate but 2) the neocons in Washington won’t let them.
(nb the neocons are psychopaths and won’t react to the current defeat the same way a normal person would)
This means the split in the neocon side must be between the Kiev government and some other force inside Ukraine.
Currently the possible options for where that split might come seem to be:
1) mothers/parents
2) Ukraine nationalists
3) Ukraine army
The pro-Russian side may not like it but the simple fact is the neocons and oligarchs are using the Ukraine nationalists as meat and if the Kiev oligarchs win they *will* kill or imprison all the nationalists. This means there is a possible weak point between those two groups that could be exploited.
In my opinion, it would be more correct to speak about Levites as those to blame for all this mess we are in right now. These are clergymen of Jews, who have been gathering 1/10 of all profits of all Jews during several thousand years (please look at the Bible, The Old Testament). They’ve collected incredibly enormous amount of money right now, and easily do anything that pleases them and brings sorrows to all others…
As for Jews and now the USA, these cunning Levites just offer them to us as some sort of scapegoats for all people to hate because of Levites’ crimes…
“The US has shown something to the EU to make them do things the US way”
The true purpose of the NSA’s global spying is blackmail.
I would strongly suggest that you put at least two top links in your sidebar for the benefit of the new readers who discover your blog each month:
1. About: A Short Bio on the Saker
2. AngloZionist Empire: A Brief Definition
The above two sticky links will greatly help new readers to immediately orient themselves to your blog. They will understand your perspective and background from the get-go.
Just a suggestion!
“but your definition of racism you haven’t spelled out for us Saker”
“racism” is a subset of “identityism” which is a normal (and necessary) part of human nature and which has both a bad side and a good side. Everyone needs an identity but some times they fight. That’s life.
Political forces in the West wanted to restrict the definition of identityism to only apply to some groups because it suited their own political purposes.
Replace “race” with “identity” (which can be anything) and the world makes more sense.
Based on the latest news from France and the EU, I believe that the relationships among them and RF will never recover. This is a precedence by breaking the contract. So what can actually stop the RF from closing the gas and crude valves to the EU?
I also believe that any NATO muscle needs a lot of energy to run its war logistics in case of a military conflict with Russia. By stopping the flow, they have a problem.
Apropos, I do not understand why Russia really always gets to this kind of situation to be weakened mostly from inside. Having seen all this behaviour from the west they should completely stop any co-operation with them. What else could be done. I am possibly too hot blooded, but this is disgusting.
BTW, this all is not about world hegemony, it is about Russian natural resources. The West to keep going needs a huge inflow of energy supplies coming in to their economies and we are running out of oil….
BTW, check this by Paul Craig Roberts:
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/09/02/warning-world-washington-nato-eu-vassals-insane-paul-craig-roberts-2/
From it: My Ph.D. dissertation chairman, who became a high Pentagon official assigned to wind down the Vietnam war, in answer to my question about how Washington gets Europeans to always do what Washington wants replied: “Money, we give them money.” “Foreign aid?” I asked. “No, we give the European political leaders bagfuls of money. They are for sale, We bought them. They report to us.” Perhaps this explains Tony Blair’s $50 million fortune one year out of office….
Nora on September 03, 2014 · at 5:49 pm EST/EDT
Thank you so much for this well-stated dose of reality!
But way more than just a thank you for your personal statement. Both your values and the way you chose to express them — well, I just can’t tell you how good it felt to read them, despite the fact that many of us have certainly heard you state them before.
But that sixth point of yours — if only it could be engraved on, and live within, every single human heart!
A good friend just wrote to me last night, when speaking of empathy, something that I think belongs here:
“I am learning that the chief beneficiary of extending compassion to others is oneself. It moves us towards sanity just as exploiting people moves them towards insanity. We make of ourselves what we become by choosing one way or the other many times a day.”
Thank you very much for your thorough explanation. I love your blog and spend many hours linked because I am trying to understand what is happening around us, “we the people”, the 99%.
I do believe that GOD is looking at what is being done here on His Earth.
Dear Saker, this is specially for you when you have the time to listen.
It is Arvo Pärt’s «Kanon Pokajanen».
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRwomGsBshg
Lonkal on September 03, 2014 · at 5:57 pm EST/EDT
Fair play, I respect your opinion here and agree with it in principal. It’s a releif to me as an Afro-Brit that you aren’t a fuckwit.
You do kind of contradict yourself a bit though (or give the impression that you do) because Anglo-Zionist term implies you think that the Jewishness of some of the participants in Western Imperialism/Neoconism is ‘TMITITU’but after thsi clarification I see that this is not your point. Zionism is an ideology, and you treat it as such due to it’s leading role in global-imperialist policy.
By the way I noticed how the racist fuckwits never seem to complain about any shady Anglo conspiracy through the ages either. Imperialism, colonialism, genocide, slavery, murderous world finance… somehow nobody’s has yet bothered to write a whole internet full of shady Anglo conspiracy theories about shady Protestant cabals drinking the blood of babies or what-have-you.
Glad you’ve made your position clear.
I don’t agree with the term “Anglozionist” because it wrongly apportions equal share of political aspirations to the two parties and in that sense it rather detracts than focalizes. The Anglos were always subservient to the Zionist Jews, not bedfellows. These Zionist Jew families that run the western world are very particular about the purity of their blood. Zion is (going to be) Jerusalem not London. So in my view it should be Zionism, plain and simple.
My take is there are two main drivers of this situation:
1) the banking mafia caste based in London and New York who indirectly dominate the USUK government and media
2) the neocons in Washington.
The banking mafia’s agenda is global and imperialist and the neocons are the same but the neocons also have a separate regional agenda of destroying what they perceive to be local threats to Israel: Iraq, Syria, Iran etc with currently Syria being number one.
The two groups are currently aligned because
a) the banking mafia are at war with the BRICS countries over the dollar with Putin acting as point man for the BRICS
b) the neocons are angry at Russia for stopping them attacking Assad in Syria.
But is Israel or AIPAC supporting the Kiev junta? Are they actually supporting right sector and the Neo- Nazis in this conflict? I hadn’t heard that they were doing anything so blatant.
for those who choose to tell they did not know – everything was written and was visible by the naked eye (hint: erase the last letter…)
http://www.conservativerising.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/barack-obama-forward-528×280.jpg
@Lonkal:It’s a releif to me as an Afro-Brit that you aren’t a fuckwit.
I try to avoid that status :-)
I noticed how the racist fuckwits never seem to complain about any shady Anglo conspiracy through the ages either. Imperialism, colonialism, genocide, slavery, murderous world finance… somehow nobody’s has yet bothered to write a whole internet full of shady Anglo conspiracy theories about shady Protestant cabals
True. Racists fuckwits never have. But others have tried, like Howard Zinn for the people of the USA or Chomsky. What we sill lack are the true figures of British imperialism. A strongly suspect that they will be in the BILLIONS when you add up Asia, Africa and the Americas. They will absolutely dwarf both Marxists and Nazis (who only had 12 years to try, I have to admit). And if we add the figures for non-British European imperialism I think that nobody could even wrap their brains around the true figure. We are talking about 1000 years of almost non-stop genocide in one form or another.
I wish I was 20 again to spend my life trying to establish and publicize these figure.
God forgive us all!!
Well defined definition of Anglo-zionist. If linked to the front page, the genuinely curious will have it at their fingertips, so will be less inclined to disrupt discussions about it. Linking the definition wont affect the trolls, though, for obvious reasons, but could make it more obvious to everyone else that they are simply being disruptive, rather than curious.
945@AGS 03 September, 2014 17:36
it seems being an “Anglo” is of great import to you (or why would you cringe).
At that instant (when you cringe) i’d be interested if you would describe the thing , or the 100 things, that you think of – please ?
Thank you for the explanation for your opinion – unfortunately – there are many of us who view the same group of people as being representatives of a moneyed elite as opposed to a linguistic, tribal, or some other social phenomenon.
For example – Robert Rubin’s son married an Indian, who is now an anchor on CNN. She is neither Anglo, Jewish tribe, or Zionist. What she is, is wealthy as part of the Rubin clan – and may in fact be a linkage between a wealthy Indian clan and its wealthy American peer.
Be that as it may, I will repeat: your singular focus damages the good that this blog can do in counteracting the massive misinformation put out by the American and European main stream media.
It is understandable that you do not care; simply a pity that so much potential is to be wasted.
dusty,
What exactly did you hope to accomplish by ordering Saker around at this point in time? Or ever, really — especially considering that he’s, you know, the host of this blog. That takes a special kind of nerve, don’t you think, or maybe even desperation? And yeah, it pretty well I.D.s you as a certain specific kind of troll.
I’m in the generation you speak of, the “h” word wasn’t even in common parlance until the 1980’s and the anti-Semitism canard right now is mostly aimed at people Jews don’t like.
I.e., nice try but still no go.
“No special treatment” means “bigotry”, “racism” or “discrimination” work perfectly to describe any kind of negative attributions towards any group comprised on the sole basis of having been born into it.
Even. Jews.
AGS,
But he’s not talking about you *as you* in terms of your personal ethnicity — only as a citizen of the AZE. As Americans, we’re each of us of our own particular descent, but we’re all citizens of the AZE and unwilling subjects of the sos. (~: I forget who it was who loved your term but refused to show them the respect of capitalizing it! Don’t you love it? ;~)
The Secret Government: Bill Moyers (1987): http://youtu.be/28K2CO-khdY
Somewhere in this video is stated that in 1800 only 3000 jews live in Palestine
Larchmonter445 on September 03, 2014 · at 6:42 pm EST/EDT
One important thing left out—
Property rights—the best, most strategic, used for power, production and private pleasure.
They will own all the granaries and water sources soon. They own the best islands and beaches.
They own the best wilderness and lakes.
The Elite really only want the rest of us to clean their toilets.
It’s feudal princes and serfs all over again.
China and Russia are late to the game. They are struggling to throw off the feudal chains, while the developed masses are being fitted into their own new chains of slavery. Thus the collapse of the American Dream, Democracy, the Euro Union Scheme.
Maedhros on September 03, 2014 · at 6:47 pm EST/EDT
A SIMPLIFICATION
Islam is a restoration of Judaism, without the restraint of ethnicity and completely useless, spiritually, because the Lord already came. It has two more Prophets, One extremely undervalued (let’s say so) and the other very overvalued. This latter would also be the only prophet whom were bestowed earthly honors while living.
Apart from the righteous men inside it, it’s part of the problem.
Papism and Protestantism are a return to Judaism, without the burden of Mosaic Law precepts and with a Messiah transformed in a man of this world and into an abstraction completely separate from this world at the same time.
Apart from the (always fewer) righteous men inside them, they are part of the problem.
Both these progressions to the past are fertile ground for self-serving interpretations of the Scripture, going from the utterly idiotic interpretations to the completely hypocritical interpretation. In short, the Pharisaical approach to the Revelation.
It’s only normal. When you don’t recognize or forget the Logos, you are just one step away from (sometimes very erudite) madness!
The Lord disputed THAT interpretation, not the Scripture. Interpretation which can be summed up as the filtering out of the gnat and the swallowing of the camel!
The Lord came to fulfill the Scripture (His exact words), not to dispute It.
He disputed those who had made the Scripture their very private income at the expense of widows, orphans and derelicts.
13 But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.
14 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation.
15 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.
16 Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘Whoever swears by the temple, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gold of the temple, he is obliged to perform it.’
17 Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that sanctifies the gold?
18 And, ‘Whoever swears by the altar, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gift that is on it, he is obliged to perform it.’
19 Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that sanctifies the gift?
20 Therefore he who swears by the altar, swears by it and by all things on it.
21 He who swears by the temple, swears by it and by Him who dwells in it.
22 And he who swears by heaven, swears by the throne of God and by Him who sits on it.
23 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone.
24 Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!
(continue)
(II) – 25 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you cleanse the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of extortion and self-indulgence.
26 Blind Pharisee, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness.
28 Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.
29 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous,
30 and say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.’
31 Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets.
32 Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ guilt.
33 Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell?
34 Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city,
35 that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
36 Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!
38 See! Your house is left to you desolate;
39 for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD!’
Much as I understand your weariness at having to write time and again such useful clarifications, I think that you underestimate a bit their necessity and – indeed – your own brilliance.
I very much think that here is a lot of intellectual honesty, decency of character and spiritual profundity required and condensed in such a coherent position as you just formulated once again. A lot of people, although well-meaning, might just not be capable of taking this threshold on their own, in short order, or might guess something along your lines but recant it in favour of some more “popular” positions, following the “gravity” of this or that propandistic current because they are simply intimidated at the lonesomeness and “quixotic” quality which any position immune against ALL ideologies relating to a specific topic is so easily implied to be.
So I’d like to encourage you to post this same clarification be it every once in two months, and NOT despond of having to do so. Maybe you can accept it as “your ministry” to take the revulsion vicariously. God has given you a talent, use it! Do not care about the idiots, who prompt you feel the need to post it; and who will gloat at your being “naive” afterwards. Be instead aware of those honest, but lonesome people I implied there be. Me personally, I would at times have given much to find someone who just ensured me my nascent position burgeoning along your lines is not queer, untenable, fallacious, quixotic, but just the reasonable, decent, and Christ-compatible way to think about the matters of ideology related to “Jews” or racism in general, at least when some inkling of the real background of high politics be presupposed.
Martin/Germany
(III) – It’s then a solemn nonsense to state that it did not exist a very defined written text of the Old Testament at the time when the Lord did walk in the world.
There were the Hebraic text in the Temple and the Greek text (the Septuagint), a perfect translation made more than two centuries before. The Hebraic text went lost in the destruction of the Temple, but the rabbis were kind enough to write it down anew, with a few amendments to eliminate all the prophecies about the Christ (that the Greek text has conserved).
The original Judaism is no more. The Jews, the people chosen to be the earthly vessel of the Christ, accomplished their task two millennia ago. From that time the chosen people are those who choose Christ! This choseness has nothing to do with the honors and riches of this world.
The Jews who didn’t (a lot of them did) choose Christ, did choose Barabbas and Caiaphas, and THAT is their legacy and identity from that time.
Killing the Christ and invoking His blood on them and their children, they sealed their fate. After their formal rejection by God with the destruction of the Temple, they developed away from the Torah and towards the Talmud, which is the bible of the antichrist.Rejecting God and being rejected by God, you can only end up worshiping the devil (the separation from God).
37 Then last of all he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’
38 But when the vinedressers saw the son, they said among themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and seize his inheritance.’
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
This legacy of Caiaphas and Barabbas is not racial. Modern “Jews” have no lineage from the ancient Jews, not ethnic nor religious. That’s just a pretension. The legacy is ideological, so much so that today is the most successful religion worldwide. Hundreds of millions of so-called christians and muslims follow this religion (which has nothing to do with Judaism, I repeat) and its precepts (while a lot of Jews don’t!): robbery and murders (Barabbas), legal exploitation, institutional lies, ritual murders of innocence and justice and self-worshiping, the sin of the devil (Caiaphas).
They have made themselves (or better, their bosses, their high priests) the messiah. As the One sent by God did not fit in their cravings and delusions, they rejected Him and morphed their (residual) tribe into a collective messiah, whose identity has lost any racial or cultural meaning and it’s resolved only in the rejection of Christ AND His Word.
You can reject Christ as Son of God, but keeping His Word puts you out of this ideological tribe. You have to sin against the Holy Spirit (the Spirit of Truth), not only against the Son of Man, to be part of the tribe.This rejection is ideological, it’s a moral choice, not a genetic determination.
m on September 03, 2014 · at 6:51 pm EST/EDT
(IV) – This ideological tribe, these heirs of Barabbas and Caiaphas ARE the problem!
Their main battle is against God, every their wickedness against men is made as a blasphemy, as an insult, a spittle against God.They are the progeny of the devil, the assassin since the beginning and the father of lies. As their father, they are moved by the pathetic presumption of being able to imitate the Creator and the frustrating awareness that they cannot, so they vent their rage upon His Creation, above all Its apex: Man!
Nothing sates them as human sufferings! But their hunger never goes away….
Their supreme goal, seemingly, is the reconstruction of the Temple in Jerusalem. If they succeed, God will not tolerate anything more and the game will be over for this world.
The devil’s main task is to convince everyone that he does not exist. This conviction facilitates enormously the capture of men in his ruses; there’s no worse enemy than the one you think does not exist!
The name of the devil is Satan! The Lord says so and He knows a thing or two about him, as He saw him fall like lightning from Heaven.
Men are the only tools available to him to carry on his lust for destruction, as he has no power by himself upon the Creation. Only God and us, the only creatures made in His Image and Likeness who unite the two aspects of reality, material and spiritual, have power upon It.
Every creature in His Likeness, Angels included, is free to go against God, to choose to separate himself from God. Only men and the devil like slaves, in their deficiency! What good slaves are for the Almighty?
Many angels did and our progenitors did follow their “whispers” since the beginning, separating themselves from God and their fruits as well, together with the Creation which they ruled.
The Incarnation made manifest once again the Way to God, the Cross showed that it’s not possible to rely on this world and its princes for that, the Resurrection took away the most powerful weapon of the devil and his progeny since the Fall: the (fear of) death!
Opposite to the devil, man can repent, as his sin did not generate inside of himself, as is the case with the devil, but was instilled from outside.
Anyway, don’t hold your breath for that. Man is obtuse, since the Fall there’s no wisdom in him. He still thinks he knows better and, after all, the devil does not exist, right!!???
I mean, look at Gaza, at Odessa, at Mosul, look at all the gratuitous, senseless evil of the last century….. where do you see the devil?
Look at all those men who have billions and want more….. who rule upon millions of slaves and want more…. who have everything material and are desperate…. who have no material needs and steal, who kill for mere love and pleasure of killing.
Where is the devil? Come on, it’s just a fairy tale.
Let’s rather talk about something serious, like the probabilistic wave which has created the universe or the bear that fell in the ocean and became a whale or, better yet, the magnificent lot and progressive of humanity….
basho on September 03, 2014 · at 6:55 pm EST/EDT
Dear Saker: After reading your post explaining/defending/rationalizing your use of
the word “AngloZionists”, I had to ask myself what is all this about. The
construction AngloZionist is at best a very convoluted construction as it takes
you many words to give it form.
Zionism as “a nationalist movement of Jews and Jewish culture that supports the
creation of a Jewish homeland in the territory defined as the Land of Israel”
(wikipedia). As a nationalist movement it is political. Being political it has an
ideology. Pure and simple. Leave it at that. It doesn’t matter what J. Biden
thinks he is because by definition he isn’t.
Anglo is not a nationalistic movement by any stretch of the imagination.
Why put the two words together in the first place? This is apples and oranges.
An Anglo can be a Zionist and a Zionist can be an Anglo. A Russian can be a
Zionist. A Russian cannot be an Anglo. A Pole can be a Zionist. A Pole cannot be
an Anglo.
When you use AngloZionists are you talking about Anglos that are Zionists or
Anglos and Zionists? (rhetorical question, no need to answer) (:
If it is Anglos that are Zionists then you’ve limited your definition and excluded
the Germans, Poles etc etc that are Zionists.
If it is Anglos and Zionists then you’ve limited your definition and excluded the
Germans, Poles etc etc.
If it is the ‘Elitists’ call it that. This can be anyone (Anglos, Poles etc) in
the present day power structure and it is usually accepted as such. For example J.
Biden (who many people accuse of being a closet Jesuit)
If it is the ‘Zionists’ call it that.
If it is both then ‘Elitist/Zionist Cabal’, for example.
Perfidious Albion: An Introduction to the Secret History of the British Empire
http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/page/3?s=britain
4th reich is the point. Descendants of Charlemagne, heirs of the Roman empire and Vatican, Teuton-Germanic dynasty: Windsor-Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (name Windsor taken after WW1. Kaiser and von Bismark were relatives of british royals the same as US presidents )/ Orange-Nassau/ Hohenzolern/ Hanover ( prince Bernhardt of Hanover, fother of Dutch queen, was nazi officer ). This dynasty gave also 39 USA presidents ( google ROYAL PRESIDENTS ) basicaly all who were
not assasinated or survived attempt of assassination- Andrew Jackson. Some of them even wife and kids were killed.
In short, I still think that the only distinction between men is that amongst sons of God and the progeny of the devil. (John 8, 37-44)
I don’t believe the “Deep State” is an ethnic category at all. I believe this definition is incorrect. The Deep State applies to the ruling elites and more likely comprises the Pentagon and the military industrial complex which companies benefit from nonstop wars. They include companies like Boeing, Lockheed Martin, etc.
These military corporations Henry Gireaux recently revealed on Bill Moyer’s now have their CEO’s in Wall Street investment banks so now the two top recipients of US tax dollars are interlocking.
The very attempt to try and racialize these categories is a flawed nonMarxist concept. The Deep State is ruled by those like the Bilderberg grouping and other groupings of the capitalist class be they in finance, the military industrial sector or Sillicon Valley which comprises and overlaps with the military sector as well. BTW, a recent Counterpunch article reveals it is Sillicon Valley investment companies that largely financialize and provide the capital for Israel. Furthermore, some of California’s largest pensions funds are advised by AIPAC in where pension monies should be invested.
The Deep State, i.e., the Pentagon, and supporting corporations, is what informs our foreign policy in the US, which has devolved down into a military policy.
Tor Quinn-Darke on September 03, 2014 · at 7:01 pm EST/EDT
What links those Anglos and those Zionists who qualify to be labeled Anglo-Zionists, is hiding in plain view.
Usury.
Seamus Padraig on September 03, 2014 · at 7:04 pm EST/EDT
“I won’t go into the history of the rise to power of Jews in the USA, but from roughly Ford to GW Bush’s Neocons it has been steady. And even though Obama initially pushed them out, they came right back in through the backdoor.”
Obama initially pushed them out? When did that happen, Saker? Robert Rubin, Larry Summers, Rahm Emmanuel, Vicky Nuland.
Jurek Ladziak on September 03, 2014 · at 7:07 pm EST/EDT
BRAVO my friend
Abdelnour on September 03, 2014 · at 7:12 pm EST/EDT
To the Saker:
As far s I know, the term “Zionism” means an ideology which is not jewish at the basis. Of course, there are lots of Zionist Jews, but you do not have to be a Jew to be a Zionist (you said so), and the basis of the ideology is not Jewish; maybe the following post might inerest you:
Who is the ennemy? by Thierry Meyssan
giving a deeper understanding of the roots of that evil.
Jerry C Kays on May 31, 2018 · at 10:30 pm EST/EDT
“Now it was from this very creed of Zoroaster that the Jews derived all the angelology of their religion…the belief in a future state; of rewards and punishments, …the soul’s immortality, and the Last Judgment – all of them essential parts of the Zoroastrian scheme.” From The Gnostics and Their Remains (London 1887) by King and Moore quoted at 607a in Peake’s Bible Commentary.
http://www.askwhy.co.uk
FROM ENCYCLOPEDIA AMERICANA : “First, the figure of Satan, originally a servant of God, appointed by Him as His prosecutor, came more and more to resemble Ahriman, the enemy of God. Secondly, the figure of the Messiah, originally a future King of Israel who would save his people from oppression, evolved, in Deutero-Isaiah for instance, into a universal Savior very similar to the Iranian Saoshyant. Other points of comparison between Iran and Israel include the doctrine of the millennia; the Last Judgment; the heavenly book in which human actions are inscribed; the Resurrection; the final transformation of the earth; paradise on earth or in heaven; and hell.” by J. Duchesne-Guillemin, University of Liege, Belgiumhttp://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Religions/iranian/Zarathushtrian/zoroastrianism_influence.htm
http://www.viewzone.com/abrahamx.html
http://www.viewzone.com/noah.story.html
anon on September 10, 2015 · at 8:43 pm EST/EDT
Are you saying that the Jews derived thier religion from one of the two most pure aryan race The Iranians ( other pure aryan race being north Indians Ofcourse)?.
As with almost everything comprising being human, all is a result of learned ideas, transmitted through culture and beliefs in a coherent package by one’s primary caregivers who received the same package in the same manner. Racism is a learned attribute, it did not appear out of nothing, no child is naturally racist until that idea is instilled by parent, tribe or belief.
One possible definition of racism are learned ideas which interfere with fairly addressing some current situation, relation or condition with another in the present. This may save all manner of conditions and codicils modifying the definition.
Your post is brilliant and would add my voice to those commending a permanent link for future access.
Thanks for everything you do, the site is a treasure house of rationality and information.
@ The Saker,
Thank you for your explanation — and for your site.
Well, to me there is no perfect expression to call this entity and, yes, they seem to be all (I don’t mean the 1% which include “elite slaves”, not even the 0,1% which includes many “wish to be” (look at “our” DSK and Anne Sinclair who believed they had aggregated to the elite : as soon as DSK could be seen as a capable of independent decisions, they were brutally rejected) but really the very elite, thousands people, both satanist and powerful by themselves), whether Anglos (a bit of Scottish or Dutch admitted), whether Ashkenazes (a bit of Sephardim tolerated), whether a mix.
I don’t know if you know English history since the Reformation, the Poor Law, the indentured servants who were treated worse than African slaves because they were their master’s property only for a while, etc; but it is obvious that they thoroughly despise all the “people”, including Anglos. Nevertheless they are Anglos and proud of it…
I think it is the same for the Jewish part of the elite.
Are they zionists? Well, they somehow supported the zionist movement along XIXth and XXth Century unitl WWII but they also supported the Nazis and many Arab movements who would destroy zionist camps. And, I feel, they still do so, with this addition that they are now the only support for Israël who are, therefore, forced to obey them, may they like it or not, may it be moral or not; and Israel, by side-effect, has become a noted point for trades those people didn’t want to be too open; so an important spot for them.
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I am not a “real zionist” because I feel zionism came from the same kind of big-headed nonsense as the “Manifest Destiny”. It was in no profecy but it pleased many Jews to think they would get a history continuation, without the least divine call… Yet the zionists settled, they bought land to their ottoman owners, letting their “slaves” jobless, and creating a problem similar to Brazilian “Sem Terra” (which, though some were supported by a marxist sect, didn’t take at all such a passionate dimension in the world), and they created an new state, not only with the Jews of them by the way — the zionists were not quite as racist as who you call Anglo-Zionists. Now, this state exists, and it is home to human beings and I would like them to live in peace; furthermore, they seem willing to let other religions get to their holy places. And they are really threatened by their neighbours, and have always been — may I say, they have always been copiously provided for; by whom?
After WWII, many Jews, shocked, believed they were hated by everybody (which was wrong, the story of perpetual persecutions is a self-centered tale; there were persecutions of course but not as many, and their “history-keepers” exaggerated them, and some were justified, others were just tax paying etc) and could only find refuge in Israel. They were really, really shocked. Try to imagine : the institutions supposed to protect them, got to chase them to kill them… morally it is extremely violent, even for those who escaped. Nora wrote about the Ferguson event, and thanks to her I heard first about “the Talk” : how horrible! Can you imagine all Black/coloured US males unable to have any trust in the institutions supposed to protect them, and told they were willing to kill them as soon as they could find any “provocation” in them? How can they be citizens after that? The same for the Jews, and even two generations are not enough to change it.
So, without being a proper zionist (I see the creation of Israel state as a kind of offence to God, probably unconscious because of the talmudic brainwash), I am a “present day zionist”, would put up with Israel and wish the US not to mix in their affairs, nor in the Arab ones, and the Arab to accept a solution granting Israel safety.
And, yes, this “Anglo-Zionist elite” have in both of their origins, a tendancy to “racism” — how could anybody make Apartheid? Spanish and French “colonizers”, although there were such “casting mistakes” as Pizarro who killed all better Spanish commanders to be able to commit his crimes, were not such racists, even revolutionary French wanted a raise of African population to European standards, little as they applied it. And people such as the refounder of Spiritans, who happened to be the son of a rabbi, Father François Libermann, who wrote for instance, to his priest sent in mission : « Faites-vous Nègres avec les Nègres pour les former comme ils le doivent être, non à la façon de l’Europe, mais laissez-leur ce qui leur est propre; faites-vous à eux comme des serviteurs doivent se faire à leurs maîtres… » (“make yourselves Negroes with the Negroes, so as to shape them as they must be, not in the way of Europe, but let them what is theirs; get their ways as servants must get the ways of their masters…” – poor translation, sorry)
In fact, all that is christian or properly judaic reject the Anglo-zionist mentality as Mammon worshipping, and here we have the worship of Mammon (greed), Ishtar (pornography, paedophilia etc)… and Satan (opposition and aggression and vilification of all that is truly Christian).
I agree with the commenter who suggested a permanent link on the first page, for a disambiguation because, right, the expression Anglo-Zionist can be misunderstood.
Well, I was turned off during a while by writers who didn’t like democracy (how could one not like democracy? — thought the high school girl) but eventually understood their meainings (they were in no way opposed to individual liberties and as much freedom as possible for people to live as they wish, far the contrary) and reasonings and all went better… but your explanation about “words that may shock” is really welcome.
@ Anonymous 17:37, in fact all along the past 20 centuries, masses of Jews converted, mostly to catholicism or islam, thus entered the “general population” and are among our ancestors. Some think that nowadays, little more than Levites remain judaic or secular Jews. Let us remember the Blessed Virgin Mary was probably a Levite…
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Its astonishing when you realize it was made 8 years ago, yet explains everything, exactly where we are today, the why, how, who, etc…
If you can’t listen now, save it for when you have an hour and listen to the first hour. I’m sure you will want to listen to the second
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That was a very well informed explanation of who and or what governs the United States…it was not for no reason that Pat Buchanan once observed that the United States Congress was Israeli occupied territory. What happened on 9-11 has been the most propitious event that ever could have happened for the Anglo-Zionist. In essence it is a marriage made in the bowels of hell.
No doubt intel level anglos resent when a Sayanim gets caught red handed spying on behalf of Israel and still the Americans can not get a conviction:thinking the Franklin Weisman and Rosen case here. My best guess is that there is deep resentment among all American super patriot anglos who do not conflate love of israel with American patriotism. I believe they have started a pushback of sorts and have seen what i perceive to be signs several times that to me point in that direction.
Great blog, interesting perspective and much appreciated.
Your effort has been a constant delight and source of information to me these last six months. Please keep going.
To contribute to, or perhaps complicate, matters I would like to draw your attention to the novel Dictionary of the Khazars by Milorad Pavich (1984). Many found it hard to understand, but perhaps the murder comitted in Novorussia now has been foreseen 30 years ago by this historian in this novel presenting differing views on the conversion of Khazars to Christianity, Islam and Judaism 12 centuries ago.
There ara Khazars in nowdays Afganistan and Iran, that are not of Jewish religion, as well as many Ortodox Christians in nowdays Novorussia or Ukraine of khazarian ancestry.
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You are an honest man, my friend, but you will get little thanks for it. Here in Canada, it is almost an offense to read these sentiments. Thus, I linked to it on Facebook, and Harper can kiss my rear end.
I can’t believe all the retards here who are either confused or offended by Saker’s use of the term “AngloZionists” which I believe is spot on. These people can sit here and parse your words all day – is it because they are dull-witted, or because you might have jarred them off their little soapbox a bit?
After reading this blog for awhile, how can anyone so easily misunderstand that which Saker has gone to such pains to explain?
Please piss off and go over to Fox News or CNN where you will NEVER, EVER hear the term Zionist used at all, so as not to confuse your widdle bwains or offend your tender sensibilities.
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The White House put out a list of top ambassadorial posts today, naming an early supporter, former 9/11 Commissioner and Indiana Rep. Tim Roemer, Ambassador to India.
And some things never change: To the donors go the true plums.
Obama also gave out a traditional prize to a top fundraiser, making Chicago banker Lou Susman Ambassador United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland. A top California campaign fundraiser for Obama will be Ambassador to France.
Other interesting picks include Rev. Michael Battle, a prominent minister who will be the Ambassador to the African Union; Miguel Diaz -- a Catholic scholar, rather than the usual campaign donor -- who gets the Vatican portfolio; and former Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund President Vilma Martinez, headed to Argentina.
The rest, with less glamorous posts going to career foreign service officers:
* Thomas A. Shannon, Ambassador to the Federative Republic of Brazil
* Laurie S. Fulton, Ambassador to Denmark
* Robert S. Connan, Ambassador to the Republic of Iceland
* John V. Roos, Ambassador to Japan
* Christopher William Dell, Ambassador to the Republic of Kosovo
* Patricia A. Butenis, Ambassador to the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka and the Republic of Maldives.
And the France appointment goes to:
To other capitals, Obama planned to nominate Charles Rivkin, an outside homeland security adviser, to France. A former financial analyst, he also ran entertainment companies such as The Jim Henson Company and Wild Brain Inc.
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In the movie Limitless, a depressed and frustrated Bradley Cooper uses the experimental drug NZT-48. Within moments, the room becomes brighter and his world more vivid. His senses are heightened and his mind more adept. What was once a writer’s block becomes a frantic pace to finish a best selling novel. Even quantum mechanics and stock trading become child’s play as his mind is able to grasp the infinite complexities of linear algebra. Cooper quickly masters subjects that take years to perfect.
The NZT drug presents the idea that one does not need a private tutor and vast amounts of learning and reading in order to unlock one’s potential. Any individual could unlock their inner Mozart and Einstein. But the drug is a fictional catalyst. So audiences created a demand for a silver bullet, a drug that can cure headaches, anxiety and unlock the “genius” that is within all of us. The market responded, and more attention was placed on the neuropharmacology industry to create a brand of casual drugs that heighten the human mind. This new brand of neural supplements has been dubbed “nootropics,” a combination of the Greek words for mind and bend.
Neurotransmitters are special chemical messengers that transmit signals from a neuron to a target cell via a synapse. These molecules bind to specific receptors and can cause a variety of responses, including muscle relaxation, stress response and sleep. Nootropics are based on the premise that optimal neurotransmitter levels have a correlation with brain performance. With the correct levels, individuals are able to learn and recall information efficiently. When levels are imbalanced, a whole array of neural deficits ranging from slower reasoning, reduced coordination and mental fatigue occur. Although the brain naturally provides an optimal amount of these molecules, aging slows down the process, degrading these important molecules. This requires some to ingest these outside supplements to maintain high cognitive function.
Arguably, the most common nootropic is also the most studied: caffeine. Millions of individuals self-medicate with their morning drink before work or late night study sessions. Caffeine is a metabolic stimulant that reduces physical fatigue and drowsiness. It allows for clearer thought and its level of toxicity is beyond most normal consumption. The caffeine molecule is able to bypass the blood-brain barrier and directanyly affect other neurotransmitters, such as acetylcholine, epinephrine and serotonin, which play roles in the inhibition process. However, there has been no definite answer on caffeine for its short and long term memory benefits. The controversial nature of this supplement has pushed more users into pursuing another nootropic: Piracetam, of the racetam family.
Next to caffeine, Piracetam is most the most widely used “smart drug.” Like other members of this family, this substance enhances GABA uptake, oxygen supply and nerve growth, a wholly different mechanism compared to coffee, which merely affects neurotransmitters. Piracetam directly affects the brain’s communication, as one study claimed that it “facilitates learning and memory in healthy animals and enhances inter-hemispheric transfer of information”[1]. The data suggest that thoughts are produced faster and connections are more readily made.
Individuals can additionally ingest cholinergic sources, another dietary supplement. Choline is a common substance found in most foods. It is primarily available in vegetables and eggs, and some studies suggest vegetarian diets correlate to higher mental function due to the availability of this compound for nerve growth [2]. Choline acts as a precursor molecule to acetylcholine, the most common neurotransmitter of the parasympathetic nervous system.
Most Piracetam users take Alpha GPC or Choline Bitartrate, two substances that are widely available online. Cholinergic drugs can also block the activity of enzymes that destroy naturally occurring acetylcholine, allowing for higher levels of this transmitter. Most users claim that using a choline source with a member of the racetam family allows for individuals to have higher levels of cognitive function, as these sources provide for raw materials and shield the brain from headaches and other side effects of this commonly used nootropic.
Most recently, another nootropic has captured the public’s attention: Modafinil. This drug is used for treating narcolepsy, which is a rare neurological disorder in which individuals are prone to unwillingly falling asleep during the day. As a result, these individuals are heavily debilitated, as they cannot control their levels of awareness, limiting most of their day-to-day activities. Modafinil has been shown to counteract the effects of narcolepsy by elevating hypothalamic histamine levels, in contrast to the traditional stimulant and amphetamine compounds. This allows for more hours of wakefulness.
This neurological mechanism has been studied heavily and does not seem to bear many side effects to healthy users. In fact, Rolling Stone Magazine had a recent op-ed piece in which the author himself ingested Modafinil on a weekly basis [3]. He was able to stay awake for twenty-four hour periods without any symptoms of fatigue or cognitive reduction. The demand for this sleep-reducing drug indicates something that society wants: a pill that could give back hundreds of lost hours due to the biological necessity of sleep.
The availability of these cognitive enhancing drugs is coming into question. According to a recent FDA ruling, these drugs can no longer be classified under dietary supplements per se [4]. Still, online distributors such as Amazon.com have been able to sell these supplements without major legal issues. But Piracetam itself is no longer available in bulk due to its controversial nature, even though studies correlate it to cognitive enhancement. Most of these drugs can now be procured through more dubious means, such as offshore websites. The most common method is through the Indian pharmacology industry, as this form of regulation is much more lax compared to its American counterpart.
In the end, these “smart drugs” will become widespread throughout the general public. As Ritalin and Adderall were seen as a major supplement of college students, so too will these drugs be used for recreational purposes. We all want to have that magic pill, that NZT-48 pellet that unlocks our inner Mozart and Einstein.
1. Margaret Vernon and Eugene M. Sorkin, “Piracetam”, Drugs and Aging 1.1 (1991): 17-35
2. Steven H. Zeisel “Choline: Critical Role During Fetal Development and Dietary Requirements in Adults.”, Annual Review of Nutrition 26.2 (2006) 229-50, accessed January 15, 2013, doi:10.1146/annurev.nutr.26.061505.111156.
3. McMillen, Andrew. “Building A Better Brain: Wired on Nootropics.” Rolling Stone Magazine, November 6, 2012, accessed January 15, 2013, http://andrewmcmillen.com/2012/11/06/rolling-stone-story-building-a-better-brain-wired-on-nootropics-november-2012
4. Braintropic. “Piracetam banned and removed from Amazon.com.” Last modified December 16, 2013. http://www.braintropic.com/piracetam-banned-and-removed-from-amazon-com
5. Digital image. Mindnutrition. N.p., n.d. Web. 28 Jan. 2013. <http://www.mindnutrition.com/images/iStock_000018892265XSmall-300×225.jpg>.
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Starting out young in the voice acting world, Pocholo had his own share of frustrations and disappointments as he was making his name in the industry. But instead of folding up and putting his dream on the back burner, he used this frustration as a fuel to realize his vision – to make the Philippines the center of voiceover excellence in Asia.
In 2005, Pocholo established his own voiceover services company, Creativoices Productions. But more than being just another audio production house, Creativoices became the home of the very first and premier voice acting school in the country – the Philippine Center for Voice Acting. This school, more popularly known as “VoiceWorx,” became a hub for aspiring voice artists to develop their voice acting skills, and get their foot in the door of voice acting. 10 years and 35 batches later, VoiceWorx has produced more than 1,000 graduates, and almost half of them are actively making their name in the industry – as dubbers, voiceover talents, events host, broadcasters, and even trainers.
Through Creativoices, Pocholo also brought the Filipino voice acting talent to the international scene when he closed several projects with the famous video gaming company, Sega. Pocholo became the voice director for arcade games such as Harley Davidson King of the Road, Golden Gun, Operation Ghost and Transformers. Those games all used Filipino talents for the voices of the characters.
The Philippines’ Most Recognized Voice Artist
Because of all his accomplishments as a voice artist, Pocholo became the only Filipino/Asian panelist in the 2012 VoiceOver International Creative Experience (VOICE) in Anaheim, California.
Being the “VoiceMaster of the Philippines,” Pocholo is by far the most acknowledged and recognized voice artist in the country. He has been featured in several television programs like “Balitang K,” “Matanglawin” and “Kabuhayang Swak na Swak” in ABS CBN, “I Juander” and “Kapuso Mo, Jessica Soho” in GMA, “ShopTalk” and “Mukha” in ANC, “Tribe,” “Aprub” and “Taumbahay” in Net 25, “Sweet Life” in QTV, “Good Morning Boss” on PTV 4, “Medyo Late Night Show with Jojo A” on TV 5, and “Serbisyo All-Access” in CNN Philippines. He was also featured in both print and online publications like Speed Magazine, The Philippine Star, Manila Bulletin, Reach Knowledge Magazine, Rappler and Raket.ph. He was even featured in some radio programs of DZBB, Radyo Veritas, DWIZ, Radyo Singko, DZRJ, UNTV Radio, Pinas FM, DZRH, and DZMM.
Pocholo is often being compared to the legendary Mel Blanc and is considered the Philippines’ “Man of a thousand voices.” But for Pocholo, he is the VoiceMaster because he is the man BEHIND a thousand voices – the voices of those who used to just dream for their voices to be heard.
In September 2016, he released his second book, “Gusto Kong Maging Voice Talent,” that gives aspiring voice artists a roadmap to build a successful career in the voice acting industry. It is the first-ever voice acting book in the Philippines that Pocholo has written in celebration of his 20th year in voice acting. Pocholo’s first book is entitled “Voice Care for Teachers, which he released in June 2015.
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On September 17, 2016, thousands of people flocked the SMX Convention Center in Pasay City for the first weekend of the 37th Manila International Book Fair. MIBF is the biggest gathering of book publishers, authors and book lovers, with thousands of textbooks, fiction books and other educational materials are available in one place.
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The VoiceMaster Inspires HR Practitioners at the Asia HR Expo 2016
The Asia HR Expo 2016 was held on September 16 at the SMX Convention Center in Taguig City. The functon hall was divided into 2 main areas – an exhibition area for companies, and a seminar area where seminars and breakout sessions were held.
As the first HR conference to discuss “digital talent acquisition,” a panel discussion was held in the afternoon Continue reading →
The VoiceMaster Motivates John Calub’s Public Speaking Trainees
On September 13, over 50 entrepreneurs, network marketers and professionals gathered at John Calub’s Success Lounge and Café in Ortigas for a training on public speaking and voice care.
Pocholo “The VoiceMaster” Gonzales was invited by Success Coach John Calub as the featured speaker for the evening, Continue reading →
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In Search of the Sacred: A Conversation with Seyyed Hossein Nasr on His Life and Thought
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John Hart , pp. Why Do Muslims Fast? Certain truths are by nature evident and need not be discussed in normal circumstances. But, in a day and age when the most evident truths are shrouded by the clouds of doubts and questioned, one is forced to discuss even the most obvious of them. One such truth is the necessity for an ascetic element in human life. Without an element of self-denial and asceticism no religion and therefore no human culture is possible.
One must withdraw occasionally from the full life of the senses even in order to be able to enjoy the fruit of sensual perception. As the Taoist saying affirms, it is the empty space of the wheel which makes the wheel.
It is only a certain degree of restraint from the material objects of the senses that makes even the life of the senses balanced, not to speak of making possible an opening in the human soul for the spiritual life. One such practice of restraint is fasting, promulgated in Islam as obligatory for the month of Ramadan and recommended for other periods of the year.
As the Holy Quran asserts, it is a practice which existed in older religions and in Islam it was only revived and institutionalised in the form of the sawm of Ramadan. Fasting during this month possesses, of course, many social and external benefits and features which have been discussed often and in fact even somewhat overemphasised in certain quarters, where the chief virtue of fasting is reduced to charity towards the poor. This element of charity is, of course, there but like all true charity it becomes spiritually significant only when it is directed towards God.
And in fasting it is the obeying of the Divine Will which has as its fruit charity towards the poor and the needy and an actual participation in their hunger and thirst. But the most difficult aspect of the fast is the edge of the sword of abstention directed toward the carnal soul, the al-nafs al-ammarah of the Holy Quran.
In fasting, the rebellious tendencies of the carnal soul are gradually dampened and pacified through a systematic submission of these tendencies to the Divine Will, for at every moment of hunger the soul of the Muslim is reminded that it is in order to obey a Divine Command that the passions of the carnal soul go unheeded. That is also why the fast does not include only food but also abstention from every form of lust and carnal passion. As a result of this systematic restraint, the human soul becomes aware that it is independent of its immediate natural environment and conscious that it is in this world but not of it.
Ghorbat-e Gharbi Occidental Exile: Law, Society, Science, Philosophy and Sufism. Translated by Seyyed Hossein Nasr. Edited, introduced, and annotated by Ibrahim Kalin. This book gave me a comprehensive look on his life and views in general.
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I found myself relating to many of his experiences such as his experience in university, studying physics. His purpose behind studying physics was to learn "the nature of things," but instead he found a gap in the modern scientific study and instead was more interested in the metaphysical. In my case, when I started my psychology degree, in a sense what I wanted to learn - to put it in Nasr's terms - was the nature of the human being. Instead, I was faced with a fragmented science dealing with fragments of the human mind and behaviour as opposed to a holistic view of mind-body-soul.
The gap in my study of psychology has led me to "search for the sacred" in other disciplines such as literature and philosophy there will always be the spiritual gap if we do not actively seek it.
In Search of the Sacred: A Conversation with Seyyed Hossein Nasr on His Life and Thought [Seyyed Hossein Nasr, Ramin Jahanbegloo] on uzotoqadoh.tk In Search of the Sacred: A Conversation with Seyyed Hossein Nasr on His Life and Thought By RaminJahanbegloowith Seyyed Hossein Nasr.
Another thing I really like about Nasr's worldview is that he links everything back to the Sacred and Divine. For example, his views on architecture. He believes that the architecture of the building should reflect its purpose, so you cannot build a mosque like an industrial building, a "box" that deprives the space of its spiritual essence.
Another important issue he addresses is the environmental crisis, which is ultimately caused by the modern spiritual crisis and neglecting the sacredness of nature, and the only way we can actually "solve" the environmental crisis is to reconnect with our spiritual essence and to rebuild our connection with nature. Sign into Goodreads to see if any of your friends have read In Search of the Sacred.
The garden of truth: Sufism is the poetry and mysticism of Islam. This mystical movement from the early ninth century rejects worship motivated by the desire for heavenly reward or the fear of punishment, insisting rather on the love of God as the only valid form of adoration.
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Sufism has made significant contributions to Islamic civilization in music and philosophy, dance and literature. The Sufi poet Rumi is the bestselling poet in America. But in recent centuries Sufism has been a target for some extremist Islamic movements as well as many modernists.
The Garden of Truth presents the beliefs and vision of the mystical heart of Islam, along with a history of Sufi saints and schools of thought. Sufi essays by Seyyed Hossein Nasr Book 54 editions published between and in 6 languages and held by WorldCat member libraries worldwide "What begins as a meditation on love and the body soon breaks down into a collage of voices culled from media reports, childhood memories, testimonies from Abu Ghraib detainees, passages from documentary films, overheard conversations, and scraps of poems and song, only to reassemble with a gathering sonic force.
It's as if all the noise that fills our days were a storm, yet at the center is a quiet place, but to get there you must first pass through the storm, with eyes wide open, singing. Each poem becomes a hallucinatory, shifting experience, through jump cut, lyric persuasion, and deadpan utterance. History of Islamic philosophy by Seyyed Hossein Nasr Book 45 editions published between and in English and French and held by WorldCat member libraries worldwide Islamic Philosophy has often been treated as mainly of historical interest, belonging to the history of ideas rather than to philosophy.
This is volume challenges this belief. The Routledge History of Philosophy is made up entirely of essays by a distinguished list of writers.
They provide detailed discussions of the most important thinkers and the key concepts in Islamic philosophy, from earliest times to the present day. Knowledge and the sacred by Seyyed Hossein Nasr Book 37 editions published between and in 4 languages and held by WorldCat member libraries worldwide. Mecca the blessed, Medina the radiant: The distinguished Japanese photographer Ali Kazuyoshi Nomachi, a convert to the Muslim faith, was given unprecedented access to both cities, including Medina's Mosque of the Prophet and Mecca's sacred center, the Ka'bah, the remarkable and beautiful building to which more than a million pilgrims travel every year during the holy month of Ramadan.
Nomachi's rich color images include views of the teeming crowds making their annual pilgrimage, or hajj; details of extraordinary Islamic architecture; portraits of faithful worshippers; and aerial and ground-level photographs of desert areas nearby.
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We know everything and nothing about China. We know that China is changing so fast that the maps in Shanghai need to be rewritten every two weeks. We know that China has brought 300 million people from agricultural backwardness into modernity in just 30 years (something that took 200 years in Europe). China’s voracious appetite for resources is gobbling up 40% of the world’s cement., 40% of its coal, 30% of its steel, and 12% of its energy. It has become so integrated into the global economy that its prospects have immediate effects on our everyday lives: simultaneously doubling the cost of the London Olympics while halving the cost of our computers; keeping the US economy afloat but sinking the Italian footwear industry. We have an image of China as a dictatorship; a nationalist empire that threatens its neighbours and global peace. But how many people know about the debates raging within China? What do we really know about the kind of society China wants to become? What ideas are motivating its citizens? We can name America’s Neo-Cons and the religious right, but cannot name Chinese writers, thinkers or journalists – what is the future they dream of for their country, or the world it is shaping? Because China’s rise – like the fall of Rome or the British Raj – will echo down generations to come, these are the questions we increasingly need to ask. Mark Leonard asks us to forget everything we thought we knew about China and start again. He introduces us to the thinkers that are shaping China’s wide open future and opens up a hidden world of intellectual debate that is driving a new Chinese revolution and changing the face of the world.
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US VP on school safety and not meeting Kim sister
Dateline: National Harbor - 22 February 2018
National Harbor, Maryland - 22 February 2018
1. Mid of Mike Pence approaching podium
2. SOUNDBITE (English): Mike Pence, Vice President
"Yesterday, President Trump and I met with the family of Meadow Pollack and other students and families reeling from the attack in Parkland. We also met in the White House with families from other communities who've experienced the same violence first hand, and as the President said, we'll never forget it. We prayed with them, we listened to them as they poured out their hearts. As the President has said, no child, no teacher should ever be in danger in an American school."
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"Earlier this week, President Trump called on Congress to strengthen background checks, and two days ago, he directed the Department of Justice to expedite the regulation of bump stocks. Later this week, when the President meets with the nation's governors in our nation's capital, we'll make the safety of our nation's schools and our students our top national priority."
"I can assure you all of this, President Trump and our entire administration will continue to take strong action to make our schools safe, and to give law enforcement and our families the tools they need to deal with those struggling with dangerous mental illness."
"You know for all the media fawning over the sister of the North Korean dictator, I think it's important that every American knows who this person is and what she's done. The sister of Kim Jong-un is a central pillar of the most tyrannical and oppressive regime on the planet. An evil family clique that brutalises, subjugates, starves and imprisons its 25 million people. Even the United Nations reported that, in their words, the gravity, scale and nature of these violations reveal a state that does not have a parallel in the contemporary world. That's why the United States government has sanctioned her for her role in abetting North Korea's horrendous human rights abuses and crimes against humanity. People are routinely jailed and executed for the most minor acts of defiance, and every American remembers the heartbreaking story of Otto Warmbier. So for all those in the media who think I should have stood and cheered with the North Koreans, I say, the United States of America doesn't stand with murderous dictatorships, we stand up to murderous dictatorships."
6. Wide of Pence after speech
U.S. Vice President Mike Pence says the Trump administration will make school safety "our top national priority" after last week's attack on a high school in Parkland, Florida.
Speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference, Pence recounted President Donald Trump's calls for strengthening the federal background check system for purchasing firearms and for regulating bump-stocks like those used in last year's Las Vegas massacre.
It was a markedly different tone than that deployed on stage minutes earlier by NRA Executive Vice President and CEO Wayne LaPierre, who delivered an unbowed defence of gun ownership and lashed out at Democrats - saying they are using the tragedy for "political gain."
Pence also criticised what he described as "fawning media coverage" toward the recent appearance of Kim Jong-Un's sister at the opening ceremonies of the Winter Olympics.
Pence said, "So for all those in the media who think I should have stood and cheered with the North Koreans, I say, the United States of America doesn't stand with murderous dictatorships."
"We stand up to murderous dictatorships," he said.
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Dateline: Jackson - 24 August 2016
Jackson, Mississippi - 24 August 2016
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1. Donald Trump arrives on stage
2. SOUNDBITE (English) Donald Trump, (R) Presidential Nominee:
"The issues we face here in America are similar to the issues faced in Britain during their referendum on membership in the European Union. This is the movement known as Brexit. On June 23rd, the people of Britain voted to declare their independence, which is what we're looking to do also, folks."
"She (Hillary Clinton) wants a government that ignores the will of the people. She wants to sell out American security to the Clinton Foundation for a big, fat, pile of cash. It's hard to tell where the Clinton Foundation ends and where the State Department begins."
4. SOUNDBITE (English) Nigel Farage, former leader of UK Independence party and leading Brexit campaigner:
"On the day of the (Brexit) vote itself, that morning, they put us 10 points behind. And actually, they were all wrong. They were wrong, because what the Brexit campaign did is we reached those people who've been let down by modern global corporatism. We reached those people." (cheers)
"If you want change in this country, you'd better get your walking boots on, you'd better get out there campaigning. (cheers) And remember, anything is possible if enough decent people are prepared to stand up against the establishment. Thank you very much indeed."
"Hillary Clinton is a bigot who sees people of color only as votes, not as human beings worthy of a better future. She's going to do nothing for African Americans. She's going to do nothing for the Hispanics. She's only going to take care of herself, her husband, her consultants, her donors. These are the people she cares about. She doesn't care what her policies have done to your communities."
7. Trump leaves stage
The former leader of the UK Independence party appeared on stage with Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump at a campaign rally in Jackson, Mississippi, on Wednesday.
Donald Trump has also labeled Hillary Clinton "a bigot." That drew loud cheers at a rally in Jackson, Mississippi. Trump said Clinton and Democrats have taken minority voter support for granted.
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Voting for Flash Challenge: March 2017
"The Never Apologize For Saying You're Sorry Challenge"
We are fortunate to have great writers on Aphelion. This challenge has been exciting for me and now it’s time for the payoff for our writers and readers.
Voting: You may select your choice for the first, second and third place from the story line up below.
Click on my name at the top of this post and then select send private message. Copy the “Voting Template: Story Line Up” after the end of this post, and paste it into the text box. Then type a 1 after the story you liked the best overall. Type a 2 after the story you liked second and a 3 by the story you liked third. Leave the other stories without a number.
Your decision should be based on your overall feeling after reading all the stories. Which stories stayed with you? Which ones felt real to you?
No one is required to vote including the authors. However, you really should read and vote for the following reasons:
1. Are you going to leave your story’s ranking to other readers without having your say included in the votes?
2. Don’t you find it exciting to read the worlds and lives of the characters created by your follow Aphelion writers?
3. And you know you are unable to comment unless you read what you’re comment on. We need to hear what you uniquely have to say.
Authors may vote for their own stories if they feel they are deserving of the placement they are giving it.
Commenting: You may comment during the week of voting concerning your general feelings about the stories this month. The comments should reflect how you feel about how the story you’re commenting on affected you.
No negative or critical or instructive type of comments should be made “during the voting”. Save them for after the voting results, which will be posted on Sunday April 2, 2017 after 5 pm Central Standard Time.
The Story Line Up
01. Kate Thornton: The Children of Mars
02. N. J. Kailhofer: Dust
03. Hope Gillette: The Hero Forge
04. Jim Harrington: Double Play
05. Eddie Sullivan: Murder by Numbers
06. Casey Callaghan: Rewind
07. Robin B. Lipinski: Puff or Poof
08. Kandi Tims: Two Princesses and the King
09. Bingemeister: The Secrets of General Nuisance
10. Jean-Paul L. Garnier: The Button
11. Sergio Palumbo: Bring Them Back
12. The Fisher of Men: No Brainer
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The Children of Mars
By Kate Thornton
(Based on an African Fable of Regret)
Buzzy's body was jettisoned out into space like the trash, but not with the trash; that would have been disrespectful. With the remains decorating the hull of the space freighter, everyone except Nyota went back to work and things got back to normal.
In this case, normal meant that the ship could resume its route between De Grasse Station on Mars and Space Station Three. Foods were shipped from De Grasse to SS3, then routed to Earth. The Fukushima Event poisoned its oceans and coastlines. Earth, once a successful agricultural planet, now was inhabited only in the interiors of its major continents, with six cities holding the residual populations. Food products were grown and processed on Mars and uncontaminated water, an expensive luxury, was distilled there, too.
No one knew exactly why humans could not reproduce on Mars, but no human female had ever carried to term on the Martian surface, so after a couple of decades and thousands of failed pregnancies, they stopped trying.
Life on the freighter included all of the usual drama, but Nyota did her job and avoided conflict. She was from Shana, the African city known for beautiful textiles and medicinal plants. She did not plan to fall in love, but the trips were lonely and the crew were thrown together.
Buzzy was a pushy braggart, and his outlandish claims of sexual prowess, especially his claim that he could father Martian children, were ridiculous. "Just check with my little honey in De Grasse," he bragged. "I got me two kids, both born on the red planet." Of course, if that were true he would not be schlepping crates on a food freighter.
But the heart wants what the heart wants, and it seldom asks the brain for advice. So Nyota and Buzzy fell hard, if not in love, then at least in lust.
When Buzzy, who was a bit short of common sense, decided to surprise Nyota one night in her bunk, he should have remembered her fear of attack and at least whispered a sweet nothing or two before pouncing. But he didn't, and it was dark, and Nyota's bedside tonic - harmless in small doses but lethal otherwise - was in a cut glass bottle. She screamed, grabbed the bottle and brained Buzzy with it. If the wound didn't kill him, the poison did.
The Captain ruled accidental death and Nyota stayed an extra day in her cabin crying.
Upon landing at De Grasse, Nyota wandered the streets, dazed by what had happened. She went back early to the dock to watch the last of the cargo loading procedure. A large, plain woman stood near the freighter watching too. She turned as Nyota approached her.
"You from that ship?" she asked.
Nyota nodded.
"Do you know Robert Buzzetti?" The woman seemed anxious.
Nyota nodded again.
"I'm his wife. Where is he?"
Nyota gasped. He hadn't mentioned a wife. Kids, yes. Wife, no. "I am sorry. He was killed. "
The woman crumpled like a used tissue and sank to the dirty concrete. Nyota felt terrible. She reached for the woman and knelt beside her as the sobs rocked them both. She could not add to the woman's grief by confessing that she was the instrument of her widowhood, nor that her husband had been her lover.
"Let me take you home," Nyota offered, supporting the woman. They walked slowly through the town, and Nyota wondered if she would miss takeoff. She called the ship and arranged to stay through until the next trip.
Mrs. Buzzetti - "Call me Lynn," she said - lived in a small cubicle near the fields. Nyota inspected the tiny but neat home and noted the children's belongings. As they both drank tea, real tea from real plants, Lynn told Nyota about her life.
She had shipped from earth as a young girl. She did her stint in the fields and met Buzzy when he was a crewman on one of the big supply ships.
When Lynn became pregnant, she went to the clinic for termination, but there was a waiting list, so she continued working. She gave birth at home prematurely, expecting the hallmark stillborn of Mars. But the child lived. When Buzzy returned from a supply run, she showed him the living child.
"Get rid of it," he ordered. "It's unnatural."
Over the course of the next Martian year, Lynn produced another living child. She hid them from the local authorities, fearing notoriety and repercussions from Buzzy.
Nyota shivered. She had indeed killed the only man to have successfully fathered Martian offspring. "I must tell you something," she said, "something terrible." She confessed to Lynn what had happened. "I am so sorry. I loved him."
Lynn sighed. "I knew he was seeing other women. Have you been to the clinic?"
Nyota shook her head. "I am on leave, but I will go to the clinic." She hadn't considered that she might be pregnant. "What will you do now?"
Lynn sighed bitterly. "I'll continue to work and when the boys are old enough, I'll tell them about their cheating father and how he was killed by his mistress."
Nyota looked down."Please forgive me." She knew she could not forgive herself.
"Give me your child - his child - and I will forgive you for killing his father."
Nyota wept. Before the next Martian year, she had given birth to a living child, a boy. He was a dark-skinned version of his half brothers, the image of Buzzy.
Nyota went back to the ship and never saw her son again. In dreams, she relived the terrible night she had killed Buzzy and the day she gave up her baby to his wife, a life for a life.
But it was really two lives, as one of them was hers.
By N.J. Kailhofer
"Do you not ever clean, child?" old Vala snapped. "You cannot let him in!"
Young Anna regarded the shriveled woman in filthy rags that smelled like grime and soil with obvious credulity. "Let who in?"
Vala grabbed the broom from beside the empty fireplace and spun it on Anna in her fine, flaxen dress, holding the straw end only inches from the surprised girl's nose. "He is a monster, a devil of the night."
Vala ignored her. "He will come with the dust. Keep him out."
Vala shook the broom insistently and Anna realized the old woman wanted her to take it.
"Clean, now." Vala said. "Clean well, that I may tell the Elders you are fit to marry Johan."
Anna grabbed the broom and set it aside. Indignant, she asked, "What do you mean, fit? Who are you to judge me?"
Vala strolled to the broom and calmly picked it up before abruptly smacking Anna over the head with it.
"Ow!"
"Listen, now. No one in the village may marry without my word to the Elders." Her eyes dropped. "The cost is too high. Clean!"
Chastised and a little afraid of her visitor, Anna snatched up the old broom and hurried to cleaning Johan's small cottage. Vala crossed her arms and stood in the middle of the room, watching the girl's every action like a hawk. When Anna was done, she looked up.
Vala's face was a mask of disappointment. "Do you wish that devil to take your child?"
Anna stepped back. "What child?"
Vala snorted. "Johan's seed already grows within you."
Anna instinctively put her hand on her belly. Ashamed, she asked, "How did you know?"
Anna steeled herself for a fluid burst of abuse, but instead, Vala sighed and sat slowly into the creaky rocker by the fireplace. "You are not from this village, so you cannot know. I was once in love with a man, too, except he was not a man."
Anna sat at the table to listen.
Vala's eyes glazed, happy for a moment.
"Reynaud," the old woman said. "That was his name. Oh, he was fine. Tall, handsome, with good hair and teeth. Neatly-kept, dark, curled mustache. His clothes were nice, a rich man's, which I suppose he was. He owned a perfumery, and he always smelled delightful. He called on me late in the evenings, always after dark, and we courted... He said he traveled the land to trade his perfumes, so I loved to hear his tales of exotic lands and strange people. So different from here."
She paused, "He never smiled. His eyes would look happy, but his mouth never smiled. That was strange about him, but that was all that was unusual. In every other respect, he seemed the perfect man."
Vala looked sheepish. "I loved him, 'tis true, and I lay with him out of wedlock."
Anna raised her brows at this, but she held her tongue and did not call the old woman the hypocrite she wanted to.
"Once I knew I was with child, I had to tell him. We talked late and then lay together. He grew restless as dawn approached, but I didn't want to let him go. What if he was angry, or rejected me? I was sure I couldn't live without him. He said he must go, but I held him and said I must tell him a secret. He asked if it could wait, and I said it could not. He bid me hurry, but telling a man you have his child is not easy. I struggled. It grew light out, and finally he shouted for me to tell him, for he must leave."
Anna was at the edge of her seat. "What happened?"
"Tell him I did." Vala lost herself, remembering. "Reynaud smiled wide for the first time, and that's when I saw his huge, sharp fangs!"
Anna gasped.
"I thought he was about to rip me open and drink my blood. I was never more afraid! Then, just then, the sun came through the window and landed where we lay. The moment it did, he collapsed to dust there on the blankets. Oh, the shriek he made as it did!"
Anna's jaw fell open.
"I screamed and tossed the blankets outside, shaking his dust out into the strong wind. I watched it blow away, out of sight."
Vala continued, haltingly. "I was wrong. I was so wrong!"
Anna came and set her hand on Vala's shoulder. "What of the child?"
"Turned to dust with his father." A tear rolled down Vala's wrinkles.
Anna asked, "If he turned to dust and blew away, why do you think he could return?"
Vala held up a finger. "On the blankets the next night was the outline of his body, but made of dust. He was trying to come back together, to return from death. This is why the village must be kept clean, foolish girl, lest he steal you or your child away into the night. You must not let his dust in!"
"I won't!" Anna gathered her sweepings into a bucket. "What should I do with this?"
"I'll take it, as I do for all." Vala smiled. "Now that you understand, I must go."
Anna thanked the old woman profusely for telling the tale and bid her goodnight.
"I have kept him from the rest of the village for fifty years." Vala felt pride as she stepped out of the door, carrying the bucket of dirt and dust.
Vala decided, Anna will keep Reynaud out.
The happy crone patted the bucket, tottering away. She knew just where to empty its contents: at home.
Vala dumped every bucket from the whole village inside her home. From everything she had collected, Reynaud's dust was nearly all there.
"If only I hadn't tossed you out in the first place," Vala mumbled. "I'm sorry, my love. You'll be with me again... and not with anyone else."
The Hero Forge
By Hope Gillette
"Because we're in the business of making heroes, that's why."
Raelyn's eyes snapped open, her attempt at meditation ruined by her own thoughts. With a sigh, she leaned forward and grabbed the small, polished figurine on the floor before her and placed it deep inside the inner pocket of her tunic.
No communing with the gods tonight. Not that they had anything to say to her, anyway.
Steeling herself to what she was about to do, Raelyn quietly ascended the stairs to where her husband had fallen asleep in his study. Standing in the doorway of the dark room, she could make out his moonlit form hunched over in a chair by the fireplace.
He was sound asleep; he'd worked hard that day at the market.
Walking over him with an unnatural stealth, she gently touched his hairline, her fingers barely whispering over the cool skin of his brow. They'd been together for 6 years. He was a good man, and it had been impossible not to love him.
Still, she was an Enlightener, and she had a purpose here, no matter what it cost her emotionally, physically, or mentally. With that affirmation of her role, she swallowed back her tears and picked up the pipe still smoldering on a table next to her husband's slumbering body.
He had a bad habit of leaving it burning.
At first, Balor thought he was dreaming.
He was warm, but too warm, like the heat of the summer sun hit midday and he was caught in its unforgiving light. He could feel sweat pooling in trenches on his skin, but in his half-sleep state, he couldn't figure out why the smell of smoke was heavy in the air.
It wasn't until he heard his wife scream in another room that he jolted up in bed. "Balor!" she cried out again. "Where are you? We need you! The door!"
What is going on? How did Raelyn get me to bed? He stumbled out from the tangle of sheets only to realize smoke was pouring in through the opening underneath the door. Oh gods the house. The house is on fire! Corrine! Raelyn!
Rushing to the door he tried to pull it open but the handle seared his skin. "Gods," he exclaimed, jerking back. "Raelyn!"
"Balor? Help us!" Her voice was distant, most likely coming from Corrine's room down the hall. "We can't get out! Something's blocking the door!"
They couldn't get out, but neither could Balor. With a pained cry, he grabbed the handle again, groaning as his skin blistered around the red-hot metal. Summoning all his strength, he wrenched the door inward, but to no avail. The hinges had fused shut with the heat of the fire in the interior of the house.
Cradling his disfigured hand, he ran to the window, knocking out the panes of glass with a pitcher Raelyn kept by the bed. Numb to the shards of glass biting his skin as he crawled through the opening, Balor sucked in the cool night air and tumbled out onto the grass.
No time. Get up. He could still hear Raelyn screaming from inside, her words inaudible. On his feet, he charged toward the other side of the modest cabin, the side where his daughter had a window into her own room.
In the fleeting moments as he ran, the night's scenarios ran through his mind. What could have caused this? It wasn't the season for a hearth fire, where embers might have caught after bed...
Gods. My pipe. Did he leave it burning like he had so many nights in the past?
Those thoughts slipped away as his daughter's window loomed in view, and then everything fell away as each window in the house erupted outward, flames consuming the structure entirely.
The force of the blaze was enough to knock Balor off his feet, but the grief was what kept him laying on the ground long after.
"How is he?"
"Oh, he's going through the phases, you know. He's passed the point of taking his life, at least, though he is much consumed with guilt."
In a quiet room, in an ancient ruin, the Enlightener once known as Raelyn nodded her head. "I see."
The monk sitting next to her placed a sympathetic hand on her shoulder. "You should take some extra time before the next one," he said softly. "If there is a next one. This has taken a great toll on you."
Unable to quell her tears, Raelyn nodded. "Yes, Master Uilleam. Tell me again, why it has to be this way?"
"Oh my child, because we're in the business of making heroes, that's why. The hero forge works through overcoming great, personal suffering." The robed man, supposedly a direct link to gods Raelyn doubted daily, smiled bleakly. "If this man chooses to rise above his pain, he will do great things for the world. If he chooses the path of bitterness and pain, well, then, on to the next."
The way her mentor casually spoke sent a shiver up the Enlightener's spine. She looked back into the rippling pool at her feet. "Yes, Master Uilleam," she replied. "If he overcomes...he is destined for great things?"
"Why, of course, child. Nothing short of saving the world."
"That's good, then," said Raelyn, her voice breaking. "I am ready for an end to this."
Master Uilleam nodded. "I am sorry about the child. Not your first, though, am I right? Surely the pain is less this time."
With a bitter chuckle, Raelyn kicked a stone into the water. "You know what they say. Every hero has a tragic story, and we are, after all heroes of our own tales."
The monk did not reply, and he and Raelyn sat in somber silence, watching the ripples bounce off the walls of the fountain.
By Jim Harrington
Location: Xerion, fourth planet from the sun in the Abdula Galaxy
Danjaki noticed Yerkof enter from the haze and amble toward the bar. "Nasty out there today," Danjaki said.
"Gets worse everyday," Yerkof replied, using his fingers to brush ash and grit from his government cyber security worker's uniform. He removed his hat, slapped it against his knees a couple of times, and placed it on the bar. "Makes you wonder if those in charge ever go outside."
"Conditions have worsened since the President ordered an increase in mining production." Danjaki replied. "I hear the air quality on the other side of the planet is so bad people have to wear masks any time they're outside."
"I eVideoed a couple of friends from there last night. They said the air quality wasn't much better indoors. Asked if my office had any openings." Yerkof put his elbows on the bar and cupped his chin in his hands.
"The government keeps it up, we'll need to find another planet to live on soon. The usual?" Danjaki knew the answer but asked anyway.
"Make it a double."
Danjaki poured a long shot of dark whiskey, put a napkin on the bar, and placed the drink in front of Yerkof. "I heard about Phrya leaving you. Sorry, man."
"My own stupid mistake to cheat on her at that postal convention." Yerkof downed his drink and nodded for another. "I sure wasn't thinking with my brain."
"How'd she find out?" Danjaki asked.
"From a stupid idiot -- me." Yerkof shrugged his shoulders. "I couldn't stand deceiving her."
"You two've been together for a long time."
"Started dating in high school. Married ten years next month." Yerkof took a small sip, wiped a dusty sleeve across his face, and swiveled on the stool as a woman walked into the room grabbing everyone's attention.
"Wow, haven't seen her in here before." He stared at the Eusterian as she strode to the opposite end of the bar. Two men approached her immediately and began a conversation. She smiled and accepted a drink. When Danjaki delivered it, Yerkof thought she might have whispered something in Danjaki's ear.
The low light in the bar didn't provide Yerkof with a clear view, but he could tell she was about five feet nine inches tall, with Eusterian blue skin and a single braid of hair hanging to her waist that divided her otherwise bald head in two perfect sections. She wore a singlet that had to have been painted on. Her smallish breasts peeked out of the top. When she smiled, Yerkof felt a twitch in his crotch that made him pinch his legs together. He spent a few more minutes ogling her slim body and appealing curves.
"Need another?"
Yerkof jumped at the sound of Danjaki's voice.
"Geez, you sneaked up on me," Yerkov said, holding a hand over his heart.
"Or maybe your mind was busy elsewhere." When Yerkof, his head down as if in prayer, didn't respond, Danjaki moved a towel in circles over the bar a few times before continuing. "Think Phrya will take you back?"
"I hope so. I tried eTexting and eMessaging her, but she didn't respond. I called and it went to vMail. She's staying with her brother. I don't dare go there. Not yet, anyway."
"He's a big SOB," Danjaki said.
Yerkof nodded and finished his drink. He pulled a wad of money out of his pocket, laid it on the bar, and headed toward the door.
"Where you going?" Danjaki asked. "It's still early."
"Home to take a cold shower." Yerkof glanced again at the woman before wobbling outside on weak knees.
"Better make it a double," Danjaki yelled through a laugh.
The Eusterian woman slithered onto the stool Yerkof had vacated and put a half full glass of Third Galaxy wine on the bar.
"That's quite the disguise," Danjaki said.
"It's so unlike me, all tight and sexy," Phrya replied. "Maybe that's partially why he…" She stared straight ahead, her fingers wrapped around her glass. "Anyway, my cousin's a makeup artist in CineTown. I asked if she could help me out and voilà," she said with a swipe of a delicate hand. "Did he notice me?"
"Every man and many of the woman in here noticed you," he said. He offered to fill her glass. She covered the top with her hand and shook her head. "There's going to be a lot of drool to clean up tonight."
"Funny," she replied, crossing her legs. She saw Danjaki's eyes follow the movement and was pleased she could still attract attention from the opposite sex. "As long as Yerkof was one of the droolers." She winked, lifted the glass in salute, and took a sip of her wine. "Do you think he knew it was me?"
"Naw. It's too dark and smoky in here to see anyone clearly at that distance." Danjaki wiped the bar some more, uncertain what to do. "You gonna take him back?"
She paused before answering. "Probably, but he needs to suffer more first. Will he be back tomorrow?"
"Should be."
"I'll be here, too." She finished her wine and handed Danjaki the glass, lightly touching his wrist. "He really likes my butt, you know. Maybe I'll make sure he gets a good long look at it tomorrow." She stood up, turned her back to the bar, and wiggled from side to side. "Oh, God," she said, her cheeks warm. "I can't believe I did that."
"He'll need three cold showers," Danjaki said, stepping closer to the bar to hide his excitement.
"Let's hope," she said with a wink as she sauntered out the door, leaving many of the patrons open-mouthed.
By Eddie Sullivan
She never loved me. At least that is what I tell myself as I keep cutting. This needs to be done before the maid comes. If luck is with me I can push it a little past check out time, but the body needs to be long gone by then. A few little details can still be taken care of in the last hour or two. The best I estimate if the body isn’t gone by eight a.m. then I’m toast.
“You never loved me.” She didn’t answer.
The hacksaw didn’t seem to be doing its best work. I wondered not for the first time if you needed to sharpen them once you brought them home. It was far more likely the blade, which was replaceable, was a crappy one in the hopes of getting the buyer to spend more on an upgraded version. Again the world never seems to disappoint.
“God,” crunch, “damn,” crunch, “money grubbing” crunch, “pigs.”
The carpet knife came sharp though. Most of the meat came clean off for those first few layers. I considered doing some more cutting like that but let it pass. Staying on task was the only way this was going to work out. She said I never finished anything. I wrote half a novel, built half a porch; she even said I was only half a husband. Ironic now that she was less than a whole wife.
The clock on the night table said 5 a.m. I felt the need for more coffee. The courtesy packs were gone long ago. No time for a java run. Hmmph.
My arms were killing me by seven. Most of her was gone though, down the drain. Thank you Piggly Wiggly for being open all night and for selling cheese graters. I packed the bones in our luggage and took our clothes to the dumpster in a garbage bag that was in the Chevy. I can’t remember why it was in there. Guess I got lucky.
Clean up was easier than I thought it would be. If I looked over the room one more time I figured I would lose it. It was nine a.m. I had two hours till check out. The bags were lighter with just the bones believe it or not. I made an effort to make it seem like they had more weight than they had in reality while walking them out to the car.
Everything seemed good so I popped back up to the room and set the alarm for eleven. I would catch a well deserved nap. Then I would check out and begin my new drama free life.
The klaxon of the alarm blared and in the haze I expected to hear her complaining about something anything, the noise, the time, something. It took a moment of not hearing her voice; the voice that got under my skin worse than any alarm before I realized it was over. No more did I have to suffer the shrew.
Vigor filled my steps as I grabbed the key card off the nightstand and headed to the front desk. A young Hispanic girl was working by herself. She gave that fake customer service smile, but hers was pleasant enough and close to believable. I smiled back, why not? It was going to be a beautiful day.
“Hello sir. How was you stay?”
“Lovely. I feel refreshed.”
“That is terrific.” She took the keycard and punched at her keyboard for a moment then slid a paper across the desk.
I took the pen that was sitting there and went to sign it. Just before applying the pen I saw that the name line said ‘Karen Hundecker’.
“Excuse me miss. You gave me the wrong paper.”
“I’m sorry Mister...?”
“Palmour, Sidney Palmour.”
She typed away some more. “Huh. Stupid system. Somehow it confused you and Ms. Hundeckers room keys. You were in 112 and she was in 211.”
A prickling went up my back. I could feel the temperature drop and a miasma come over the lobby. The elevator dinged and the door opened. It was her stepping off with that stupid scowl on her face.
“There you are stupid! I leave you for one little bit in the hotel bar and you stay out all night drinking. Did you sleep in the lobby you worthless bum?”
The girl pushed the right paper across and I signed it. The harpy slapped me in the back of the head on her way out past the desk.
“Go back up and get the bags, stupid.”
There was some ridiculous award or other on the counter for display to the customers. It was a big piece of glass carved into a trophy, which was to resemble a shooting star coming up. It was for cleanest rooms in the chain like ten years ago. I grabbed it over hand and turned it like a club. Quick sprint to catch up and bang. Right across the back of her head. She never saw it coming. The young desk clerk gasped, of course. I kept swinging after she hit the ground. Pieces began to shatter off the trophy as there wasn’t much head left between it and the floor.
She would have ratted me out when she got to the car and found the bags of bones anyway. Miserable witch. When I was sure she wasn’t getting up like some mythological monsters that couldn’t die I stopped smashing.
Then I sat back and waited for the cops. They had to be coming. The breeze coming in the front doors smelled sweet. It was just about springtime. Winter was over, new beginnings were arriving. Ends and beginnings, everything was always coming around. Things had a way of working out.
By Casey Callaghan
Having a time machine means never leaving a mistake uncorrected.
There's a little bit more to it than that, of course. If I hadn't found the secret to eternal youth in the far future, well, *a* far future, I would have died of old age centuries ago. And then there are the calculations. Every last variable has to be accounted for, every last quantum variation, every last -
I'm sorry if I sound a bit obsessed. But I have to be. I don't dare get a single detail wrong, not the tiniest little bit out of place. It's said that a butterfly's wings change the course of history. I've got computing hardware - from a different universe - well enough to track every last butterfly's wings to the millimeter. If only I'd had it in time, before - but even this is not enough. I can't track every last molecule of the atmosphere. I could turn the entire solar system into a giant computer - I have done that, in a few possible futures, far from where it could have any negative effects on the present - and I still wouldn't be able to simulate the problem well enough to find anything approaching a solution.
Last time I tried that - I made a self-improving AI and then jumped forward a few million years to give it time to work on the problem. It tried to psychoanalyze me instead.
It - it shouldn't be a hard problem. I just need to put everything back. Make it as if I'd never invented this infernal time machine in the first place. But that's the one thing I can't change. Because the first time I went back - two hundred years, just a test - I changed something. And I don't know what.
And everybody I ever knew is gone - replaced by similar people with different names, an entire world of total strangers with not one single person that I remember. A genocide, all the worse because there were no corpses left - I didn't just kill everyone I knew, I wiped them out of existence before they were even born! Even my own younger self - gone, inaccessible, never born - and I, every now and then, I, I try again, I go back, one second before the last time, and it never works, I never find myself back in the present, I never find my family, oh, very rarely, I find strangers with their names, once even their names and faces, but different under that, so, so, so, so different, I've spent ten thousand years trying and I'll spend ten thousand more if I need to, it needs to be right in every last detail if I have to rerun history ten billion times to get my family back then I'll do that because having a time machine means never leaving a mistake uncorrected...
Puff or Poof
By: Robin B. Lipinski
“Hiya Tom. Wanna come over and look at girly magazines?” At only the age of twelve, Frank was already interested in his dad’s tattered collection of forbidden fruit hidden beneath what else? His dad’s, Fruit-of-the-Loom, underwear in the lowest drawer in the parent’s bedroom.
“Naw, not today.”
“What? Are you feeling okay…” Normally Tom and Frank were so like-minded it was as if they both were brothers or twins instead of best friends. So, it was strange to hear the disinterest.
Tom mumbled something that was not understandable and he appeared to be engrossed in something inside a large plastic bag.
“What? I can’t understand what the heck you’re saying,” and as he was saying this he grabbed at his friend’s plastic bag adding, “What’s so interesting in there?”
“Holy cat nip! Is that…Are those… Fireworks?” Tom saw that the bag had a lot of brightly colored tubes and those tubes had fuses.
Letting his friend take in the boyhood joy of seeing not one, not two, not three, but a whole bag full of illegal fireworks… It was now evident that no girly magazine could hold the youngster’s attention when compared to the hot, red hot firepower of powder and BANG!
“Dang. Where the heck did you get this from Tom? There must be enough in there to blow up a whole house.”
Smiling, Tom casually said, “I found them.”
“You found them? Where?”
“In old man Tuckerson’s garbage.”
A confused look came over Frank’s face as he said, “Tuckerson’s garbage? What were you doing in… Oh, yeah. I understand now.”
Toms face became a red as it was known to both boys that old man Tuckerson also liked girly magazines only he did not save or hide them in his bedroom, rather he threw them away. Amazing how boys can become good at ferreting out forbidden fruit such as beer, cigarettes, and such.
Frank then added, “Wonder why he threw out such great fireworks.”
“I don’t know, but they sure are cool. Lets go to the fort and check them out.”
The boys had built a fort in a cottonwood tree nearby. It was a typical boyhood fort. Built out of scabbed materials such as scrap lumber, garbage, old carpet. It definitely was not pretty or functional but it was theirs. It was their sanctuary from the prying eyes of parents or other adults. It was here they could talk about fishing, hunting, girls. It was here they could smoke cigarettes, swear like sailors, and be what the world has always been; boys. For better or worse, it was a great fort.
When both of them entered their castle, Tom dumped the contents of the bag upon the plywood floor. The plywood was extremely weathered and covered with an ample amount of forest pack-rat pellets, or in the vernacular of the boys, the forbidden word: (Rhymes with schmit.)
“Wow! Way cool! This is awesome!” Tom was greatly excited seeing the large pile of various missiles and packs of some large strange explosives. He was not as excited though as Frank.
“Dang… Would ya look at that pile? Geez, I bet we could blow up a car, maybe blow a rock to smithereens.”
Any adult looking in on this scene would pale and start sweating. They would also seize the pile or call someone brave enough to do so. There was indeed a huge pile of Chinese ordnance. Old, unstable, and extremely dangerous illegal fireworks much larger than the mundane fireworks sold every Fourth of July in town. These fireworks were so large they could only be legally purchased by professionals, with a license in pyrotechnics.
A silence came over both boys as they sat there and ogled the treasure. Only the peaceful sounds of birds flying in the forest and swooshing breeze of the leaves outside the fort could be heard.
Tom broke the silence and said, “Should we?”
Franks nodded his head and said, “Yea. Which one first?”
Tom picked up a large red ball covered in large black ‘X’-s, “How about this one?”
It was agreed and Frank reached up onto a crude wooden shelf where they had a lighter for lighting cigarettes. When he clicked it, no flame. He tried again and again with the same results of no flame. “Crap. Looks like the lighter is out of fuel. You got one on ya?”
Shaking his head, Tom said, “Nope.”
There was a silent moment again until Frank said, “Wait here, I’ll be right back.”
“Okay.” And with that said and agreed upon, Frank climbed out of the fort and ran towards home to get another form of ignition leaving his friend to guard the fort.
Sitting alone in the fort with the explosives, swooshing leaves, and chittering birds, Tom fondled the fireworks and dreamed. As he was lost in thought he spied the old lighter that did not work. A bit bored now he reached out and clicked the lighter, with the same results being no flame until on his last click, the lighter emitted a flame. What luck, the lighter emitted flame, Tom smiled, and the pile of fireworks was filled with fuses. Fuses old and highly flammable and in Toms young hands the flaming lighter merely brushed a stray fuse…
The coming explosions were great. Deer ran away in all directions. Birds were blown out of the air. The fort became kindling, and Tom? His body was now in many strange pieces, one piece resembled the outline of the country of India.
Floating in the air was the spirit of Tom and he said, “Wow! Nice!” He floated over to Frank’s body running at top speed back to the fort, the sound being heard all the way home.
Hovering over his friend, he reached out and patted Frank on his shoulder saying, “Don’t cry Frank, I’m okay. Everything will be okay.”
Frank could not hear but he felt his friend was near.
Two Princesses and the King
By Kandi Tims
King Aiden rules over the land over Catan, a land rich with majestic mountains and streams filled with gold. He had two daughters, both lovely to behold. They had eyes of blue that shimmered like the majestic mountains and had golden strands of hair like the gold in the streams.
"Rachelle," said King Aiden to his eldest daughter, who was elder of the two by about three minutes. "You shall marry Prince Yule, soon to be king in yonder land of Simeesia. You shall be honored as first of his wives and rule with him in yonder land until the time when the tow lands shall be joined together. They shall be ruled as one land with armies and riches surpassed by none."
But Rachelle didn't want to marry Yule. For she had seen him but once and didn't fancy the balding upon his head or the prearrangement of their marriage. Besides, she felt that Tennison the sheriff of Catan would be a better candidate to rule with her. He was acquiring much power and had thick wavy brown hair and she liked the way he twirled his fingers about his mustache when e came by the palace to court her.
"Sister Leah," she said to her twin on the night before she was to wed. "We will make merry mischief like we did when we were of younger age. The story of our delightful switch will be told throughout all the lands. And when the mighty, soon to be king learns of this, it will already be bound by the laws of matrimony.
Leah, who had a birthmark upon her cheek, agreed and married Prince Yule. But upon the night of their wedding in their bedchambers, Leah was very afraid.
"Oh my prince," she said. "Please have mercy upon me for I have deceived you. If you will spare my life, I will be a maid servant to you all of my days." For she sensed he was a man to be feared of great honor, authority and righteousness. She lifted her golden strands of hair and showed him the birthmark. "You have married the wrong sister."
Yule was touched by how lovely and humble of spirit she was. "No, my beautiful bride, never could I have dreamed to find a wife such as you," he said.
Leah was most grateful that he not only spared her life, but he loved her very much. Unlike his father as his father's father he took on no other wives or concubines. When Yule became king, she rules by his side. As agreed they combined the two kingdoms and ruled it as one. And the people of both lands benefited from the union and honored and revered the couple. They had many children and were very happy.
Rachelle, on the other hand bemoaned her life. "It all should have been mine! I could have loved him if I had only known," she thought to herself. Rachelle had married Tennison, now the high sheriff of Catan.
"Fetch me my slippers," he said. "It was a hard day at work!"
"Work, work, work," Rachelle nagged. "That's all you care about."
Rachelle wished she could go to the great wizard and undo what had been done. "I am the eldest! I am entitled! But my sister is ruling as queen in my stead," she thought. But there was no wizard in Catan or anywhere else that could reverse the mistake that was made. Beside, to Rachelle it was not her mistake, but rather, an unfortunate twist of fate.
"Sweet cheeks," Tennison bellowed, who was now balding and round of belly from much ale. "Can you bring me some ale too?" This jolted Rachelle who was deep in thought.
"Who do you think you are talking to? I am the eldest daughter...of King Aiden...I'm entitled...Oh," she shrugged. "Here are your darn slippers."
"Ah sweetums...what about my ale?"
The Secrets of General Nuisance
By Bingemeister
General Nuisance sashayed the visiting Rear Admiral into his prefabricated office to quench their parched tongues with some nerve calming hooch, brewed from rice in a still that was built from a rusted jeep radiator and filtered through a pair of long worn skivvies. Of course, the Rear Admiral was unaware of the origins of this elixir. This was okay, since he spewed it onto the general's smooth surface desk, which was due to the pretty bottoms of female service women, who frequently dusted it during sex. It didn't make no never mind, the general was happy for all the service the women under him gave...him.
"We got ourselves a nice little operation here, don't you agree Paddy?" The general was on a first name basis with all the underhanded crooks he consorted with.
"Yes indeedy, a nice profitable scam. And the military oversight committee will never get their hands dirty by showing up here overseas." The two men started to laugh in an inconspicuous way, more like an evil laugh, yet disguising the evil part so as not to give it away.
When they had their fill of laughing, they moved on to more pressing business...the laundry. Skimming money from the laundry supply purchases, adding a nickel more to the invoice and pocketing the surplus was one of the many ways the two men could pick up extra change. They did that too in the bakery and made a lot of extra dough. Didn't make a lot of money, but not every scam can be profitable. Sometimes you win; sometimes you lose.
A pretty petty female officer came into the room and said to the general, "You have a call on line one and two".
"At the same time? You know I can't think and talk simultaneously. Who's on the first line?"
"Yes sir, it's the Korean delegate Wel Hung Hoo."
"Then who is on the second line?" the general said slightly irritated.
"No sir, it's James Watt, the secretary of defense."
"So Hoo's on first and Watts on second?"
"Yes sir, and there is someone waiting for you in the outer office." She wasn’t too smart, but at least she always held her end up, which was the way the big brass liked it.
The general was distracted by her curvaceous figure, but then continued. "So, who's in the outer office?"
“No sir," the blonde attendant said getting frazzled, "Who's on first."
Getting a handle on this the general said, "Okay who, I mean what, uh..I mean the person in the outer office, what is that person's name?"
"I don't know," she said bewildered.
The general threw a banana at her and continued talking with the admiral.
The general asked, "Why don't we stroll by the nurses shower and do a top to bottom inspection. You know they can't do anything about it, cause we're so powerful."
"Sounds good. I like it when they get embarrassed and cry and tell us, boo hoo I got a husband or kids or well, whatever. They follow my orders or it's the stockade. And you know they don't get out of there without a lot of bending over. So they're screwed anyway they go."
The men started that evil laughing again, shaking their big potbellies up and down. Well they couldn't help it cause...they're so fat!
So General Nuisance and his buddy the Rear Admiral, went in the direction of the women's shower in an over excited manner. They say power has its privileges.
They called a formation insisting that all women, including the naked ones must report as is or be punished. These Brassy guys were also into that.
As they walked up and down, eyeing each and every woman in their underneath, making them feel violated (you know, these bawdy men like that too), they did not noticed one naked woman in a jeep barreling toward them at eighty miles an hour.
Ooooh the carnage! Oh the inhumanity! Say it isn’t so! Blood everywhere! Squashy! Squishy! And you know...she didn't just hit them once. She went crazy on their butts. The angry naked woman kept running the jeep over their ever decreasing mass of person, until the maintenance crew brought out the wet vacs.
The women who had been ogled by the former powerful men, swore that the jeep went rogue and ran the two men over…twenty or thirty times without human involvement.
Yeah they say power has its privileges. They also said something about a woman scorned.
They…say a lot of things.
By Jean-Paul L. Garnier
“Enter sequence code 016358. Confirm when sequence is initiated. Out”
After all the months of sitting in this hole it was the first order ever to come through. Jerry sat up alert and began the work he had been trained for. He quickly looked over the protocol sheets and initiated the code. “Sequence initiated.”
Lights on the instrument panel began to blink and a complex fury of bleeps sprung forth from the machine. “Any further orders?” asked Jerry
Silence was the response. Probably just a training drill to see if I’m asleep at the helm down here. He went back to thumbing through his magazine, looking more at the pictures than reading. He repeated the question and again there was no response. Yep, a training exercise. I knew it. Convinced that he would not receive a response he decided not to bother the brass with more questions. Glancing up at the clock he saw that his scheduled break was coming up. He switched the machine onto automatic control then began to ascend the spiral staircase up the tube towards the exit. The elevator was still broken down and he cursed the twelve flights between him and his smoke break.
Finally he arrived at the ground floor and typed in his pin number to open the door. The door wouldn’t budge, so he shouldered it and nearly fell to the floor when it swung wide open. Recovering his balance he reached for his pack of cigarettes and was busy lighting up when he noticed the strange shift in light. It was only three in the afternoon but it sky around him appeared to be dusk. What the hell?
Jerry bent down to extinguish his smoke and realized that the ground was covered in ash. It wasn’t a training exercise. The epiphany shrank him. I, I did this. They never told me what the sequences were for. Oh God. He gazed up to the horizon and knew then that the entire landscape was now covered in fallout ash. He swallowed dryly.
Reaching for his pack once again he pulled out another smoke and lit it. Not bothering to close the door behind him he walked out into what had once been the parking lot. His boots sank into the ash as more rained down. He didn’t bother to look back as he strode into the wasteland, his mind looping the numbers 016358.
Bring Them Back...
By Sergio Palumbo
For most people the term castle brought to mind an enormous stone structure on the top of a hill. And this was true for the most part, at least for similar buildings that you could spot in many of the realms that bordered this country. But the great fortress standing on top of the small mountain within the walls of the capital of the Empire of Klener also meant the personification of undisputed supremacy, as it was the seat of power for the murderous tyrant who lived there.
Well, truth be told, the great castle had seen better days, and there was much more activity around its enormous gates and along its impenetrable battlements, where cavalrymen entered and exited continuously to follow the orders of the Emperor. His troops went here and there, night and day, to execute the ruler’s commands. In most cases, their orders were to apprehend people, torment them and then kill whoever was left alive after their long imprisonment in the underground dungeons.
Actually, the usual thinking of the Emperor was very simple: he really believed that his rule would be strengthened and unquestioned if he only had his many enemies in his hands, all of them. He knew he would feel much safer once every last one of them was dead and buried.
This he had done for 60 years, having begun his reign when he was 18, and the passing years hadn’t made him less cruel. All wrapped in his luxurious garbs, with costly fur-lined vest coats, he sat in the Great Hall, his long white curls covering his shoulders while his hardened features looked weary. His appearance sought to instantly draw your attention, and the pale face showed off two black eyes that seemed to be sunken into his head. The man spent all day long thinking of possible dangers and of his enemies that still needed to be captured and killed. There were nothing else in his head, and no deeper worries to upset him.
Things had always been this way throughout the Empire, and multitudes of common people had died because of his bloody orders.
But the man had made a mistake, and it was a very large one. There was a lone sorcerer who refused to serve him. He lived alone in the woods, not interested in the material things or in meddling in the problems of the Empire. But the tyrant couldn’t tolerate anyone living within the boundaries of his lands who refused to submit to his will. Despite all the suggestions his oldest mages gave him, and the serious warnings, he wanted that man brought before his eyes to be subjected before him.
“Leave him alone, allow him to be free…” some wise mages told the powerful Emperor.
“He will never act against you if you don’t harm him…” others added.
But the bloody tyrant didn’t listen to them. “Kill him now, execute my orders!” he replied. He was not ready to accept that someone might live freely, simply. So, he ordered that man to be brought to the courtyard of the great castle and be burned alive.
When his mages saw that the ruler gave this order, they were astonished.
The bloody Emperor should have listened to his advisers. He should have stopped when that man started cursing him saying that he would be ill-starred from that moment on, and that the souls of the enemies he had killed would persecute him, turning his last days into hell on Earth. Those severe, awful and bloodcurdling words were spoken. But he didn’t stop.
Since that day, things changed in the castle, and throughout the whole Empire. The tyrant began having some strange visions, a few delusions at first that increased very soon, each one becoming stronger and more frightening. There were unusual presences, ghosts apparently, that entered and sat wherever they wanted, startling him. And what worried him most was that such souls were only visible to him! ‘Keep a cool head!’ he thought, trying his best, but there was nothing he could do.
It didn’t take the Emperor long before he recognized those faces and understood who they were, or better, who they had once been. The ghosts of the many enemies he had had killed under his rule! But he had had them killed so he could eventually get rid of those, not to have them come back as undead! Very soon they filled every corner of the great fortress he lived in. His mind started faltering, his senses weakened and he was afraid to meet his courtiers in the open, preferring to stay alone, without taking the chance to stumble into one of those presences that only he could see.
Then, he reminded himself of the curse bestowed on him by the sorcerer he had burned alive some time before, and he understood.
“Bring back my previous glorious days!” he found himself uttering in the dark, while nobody could see or hear him. But it was too late. There was no way to go back in time, to change his past actions. There was also no way to get rid of those ghosts, and turn the castle again into the image of power and stability that it had been before.
Similarly, it was unattainable by the Emperor to become what he had once been, and this was why he remained secluded, alone and mostly silent in a dim tower of the castle. For that was the only place his mages had been able to protect using their sorcery, as a safe site for the dejected ruler to stay away from the vengeful souls of the many dead he had previously killed by force.
Oh, and the fact that he had had all of those mages killed, too, once they had failed to extend that useful protection to the rest of the castle, had just added more and more ghastly presences all around, of course…
By The Fisher of Men
There are zombies and then, there are zombies. The kind seen in Sci Fi flicks are from the recesses of the human mind; frail imaginations of ghosts and goblins, vampires and monsters. None such exist.
But what are mind-controlled slaves, who have been implanted with biochip technologies, forged through generations of torture and dehumanization.
This is where my story begins.
Human trafficking has been going on since the beginning of civilization, setting apart the elite masters from the masses (like you and me). And the plan is going, well...as planned.
It only takes ten minutes to make an incision on the right side of a human head and insert a chip that ceases the personality and the will of the human being leaving their minds ready for programming. A mind can be programmed in many ways, even through frequencies from computer software.
There are a few signs that you're observing a mind controlled slave, but they are becoming harder to detect. Their eyes often have a glassy appearance and a dissociative stare. Many human slaves are demon possessed and so their eyes are black as the pit of hell.
"Wake up, wake up. Can you hear me?" the nurse said to the patient. The patient opened her eyes staring at the cold, white-blue ceiling, possessing no thoughts.
"She is ready for conditioning," the nurse said to the programmer.
Reader, I’ve seen this before. It is an assembly line. Cruel they are that captures the mind of those who would be free.
Most of the people involved in human conversion technology are human bots themselves.
Enslaving the human race has always been the plan. You precious reader would be terrified if you knew how short a time you really have.
The conversion lab underground at the Desario Air Force Base.
“Cyrus, the infant girl is rejecting the chip. During the three attempts, some of its brain tissue was damaged,” the lab tech said to the demon overseer.
Impatient he growled, “Incinerate it!”
Actors and actresses in movies and television are born into generational families, meaning their parents and their grandparents and their great grandparents were mind-controlled slaves. The methods of mind control now are high tech, but there have been various methods used through the centuries to enslave humans. Methods involving chemicals, hypnotism, fear induced trauma and torture too gruesome for you reader to know.
I’m a journalist researching and identifying the progression of the world toward the New World Order. I commentate through various online sources. I know the dark powers are watching me. They watch for anyone that could interrupt or delay their plans.
There has always been a violent possession of demonic spirits until technology was created around the nineteen forties (technology created for human enslavement has been fifty years in advance of known technology.
I was startled by a sound outside my window. I see through the blinds it’s a van parked on a street corner diagonal to where I am staying. They’re using equipment to monitor my actions. I’m typing this offline so they cannot see until I upload to your site, but if they have equipment to see through my walls…
I must hurry.
Ultimately, the plan is to exterminate a third of the world's population, (the useless eaters is what they call us) and implant the rest of humanity with chip technology. The elite masters buy and sale mind control slaves (people who once had a will of their own and now whose only thought is what is given to them).
In the ancient book it is told how angels who had fallen mated with human women who bore to this world a race of giants, demon/human hybrids that became the secret rulers of this planet, aided by trillions of lower ranking demons, armed with the powerful gift of deception - so powerful they have deceived the elect of this world throughout time.
You are being conditioned dear reader and are probably not aware of it.
A human slave enters the underground bunker of “The Council. “I have given orders to include RH 487 in the processed food supply. It should take effect in several months.”
“Take off your clothes!” The old filthy men enjoy their slaves.
In the air, chemicals called chemtrails are being sown which make humans receptive to programming. The media, entertainment, sports and especially the news are all programming - all designed to slowly make the human race susceptible to mass mind control.
Religion has been infiltrated and demonized; the major businesses of the world are owned and operated by the New World Order. You're in a world system where what is true seems like fantasy and what seems like fantasy is actually real and terrifying.
It is a hard fight to resist evil and cleanse your life so as to take yourself out of the world system in order to overcome it. That's why most people choose not to fight...until it's too late.
The news is programming chaos into the world - racially charged division, loss of faith in the people’s national government, inducing fear (the demons feed off of that) and creating worldwide mass instability.
One day a leader will emerge and make all the trouble go away and people will follow him, without reservation, because he will appear to give the world relief when actually the world council will just stop creating the chaos.
I have not given my life to God, a mistake I am living to regret. I need more power to fight. I could have done so much. Now, I don't know, maybe I still could. I need to try.
There are a lot of unfriendly signs. It's still not too late.
As for you dear reader, we all have to make our own choices...
Voting Template: Story Line Up
01. Kate Thornton: The Children of Mars:
02. N. J. Kailhofer: Dust:
03. Hope Gillette: The Hero Forge:
04. Jim Harrington: Double Play:
05. Eddie Sullivan: Murder by Numbers:
06. Casey Callaghan: Rewind:
07. Robin B. Lipinski: Puff or Poof:
08. Kandi Tims: Two Princesses and the King:
09. Bingemeister: The Secrets of General Nuisance:
10. Jean-Paul L. Garnier: The Button:
11. Sergio Palumbo: Bring Them Back:
12. The Fisher of Men: No Brainer:
March 27, 2017, 12:30:58 AM by Genna Watson
My goodness! So much to read. I'll start tomorrow.
Genna Watson wrote: My goodness! So much to read. I'll start tomorrow.
Hi Genna, dive in!
The first votes have been cast.
Walter Harris
Joined: July 22, 2016, 04:43:29 PM
March 27, 2017, 01:16:12 PM by Walter Harris
Seeing so many people involved, I wished I had gotten something in. I plan to next month.
Walter Harris wrote: Seeing so many people involved, I wished I had gotten something in. I plan to next month.
We'll all look forward to it!
Apologies are in order to N. J. Kailhofer. The italics were accidentally left off his story, but has now been added as he had originally intended.
Very sorry for this mistake.
Lipinski
March 27, 2017, 10:03:27 PM by Lipinski
This was a fun challenge this month. It was great to see all the stories, a lot to choose from.
Do I need a photo I.D. to vote? I'm not allowed to drive because the authorities didn't like me driving with my pet buffalo in the passenger seat. Something about a 1200 pound beast being a distraction.
As for a passport, I was not born on this planet so it has been hell trying to prove I exist.
So if a photo I.D. is needed I don't have...Oh. Wait. I have a library card with a picture of myself showing me when I was 12.
Kidding aside. 'Good job' to all the writers who participated. And 'good job' to Daniel.
As of now, there are four votes cast after one day of voting.
Let's kick up the conversation. Talk about Aphelion, the challenges, your writing. You authors worked hard on these stories. Now have some fun!
My votes are already in...
jpharrin
Joined: October 08, 2016, 03:32:33 PM
March 28, 2017, 10:30:10 AM by jpharrin
Daniel Johnson wrote:
Instead of commenting on a specific story from this month's entries, I thought I'd write about how I came up with the idea for mine. Before starting any story, I mull over ideas as they come to me, in this case prodded by a prompt. I rarely choose the first one that pops into my head (although it happens occasionally). It might be the fourth, or fifth or sixth; but it's always the one that won't go away. I then let the idea ruminate for a day or two, often jotting down a few scraps of ideas about characters, plot and/or location, so I don't forget them.
In the case of this story, the first things I decided on were the "mistake" (I didn't know yet how the MC was dealing with his error, per the prompt), the characters' names, the timeframe and location. Now I felt I knew enough about the situation to begin writing. As is often the case--and it happened with "Double Play"--I had no idea how the story would end before I started writing. That's fine with me. I like letting the characters tell the story without being hindered by my single-mindedness toward the tale.
How about you? How did you come up with the idea for the story your submitted?
Stories by Kandi
March 28, 2017, 11:41:38 AM by Stories by Kandi
I love the fantasy stories!!! That's my favorite type. I love princesses and princes and kings and dragons and magical stuff. There's usually not so much in the contests I've seen, but this time...wow!
I love Kate's story and Nate's and Hope's and Sergio's stories. I'm reading them over and over. I like all the stories this month, except...oops, I better wait until the voting results to tell or I'll get in trouble.
Bronxrider
March 28, 2017, 02:16:32 PM by Bronxrider
I'm not worthy to be in this company of writers. There are 6 stories in this challenge that belong in bookstores.
There are now 6 votes cast.
I've read 5 stories so far. When I read the rest, I'll send my votes.
March 28, 2017, 05:04:51 PM by Stories by Kandi
Yeah, my votes are in!
jpharrin wrote:
Mr. jpharrin
I thought about all the mistakes people make. For days, I just kept thinking about this mistake and that mistake. I could think of all kinds of mistakes. Then I realized I wasn't sure about the "aftermath" of how to deal with any of them!!
I'm glad for this challenge, because it helped me realize there is a right way and a wrong way to face my mistakes. That's where the two princesses originated; they had the same mistake, but different outcomes; one happy, one sad.
I think reading all these stories will help me be a better writer.
You're really deep. I like a story that is thought through and I thank you for sharing your thoughts on how your story came to be.
How a story was created is as interesting to me as the story itself.
And thank you for advancing the conversation.
Stories by Kandi wrote: I love the fantasy stories!!! That's my favorite type. I love princesses and princes and kings and dragons and magical stuff. There's usually not so much in the contests I've seen, but this time...wow!
There was great fantasy literature in this story line up. I enjoy a story more the more I read them. I can savor the gentle nuances and get a better visual of the scenes in my mind.
And thanks for "waiting" on telling us the story that didn't interest you as much. But I'll look forward to hearing about it on Sunday.
And I love your enthusiasm.
As of now, 7 members have cast their vote.
I'll get my votes in soon. FYI the italics were also left out of my story, but no big deal...
jpharrin wrote: Instead of commenting on a specific story from this month's entries, I thought I'd write about how I came up with the idea for mine. Before starting any story, I mull over ideas as they come to me, in this case prodded by a prompt. I rarely choose the first one that pops into my head (although it happens occasionally). It might be the fourth, or fifth or sixth; but it's always the one that won't go away. I then let the idea ruminate for a day or two, often jotting down a few scraps of ideas about characters, plot and/or location, so I don't forget them.
Your question also crosses over into how one writes the story, at least for me it does. I seldom have my story figured out when I first start. I might have a general theme or target in mind, but not more than that. Usually, the opening sequence of a scene pops into my head and I write that down. It's usually pretty short, less than a hundred words. It's not even a whole scene--just an opener, an image or action to hook interest. The next day, I fumble around, trying to find a direction I want to go, and honestly, what music I want to play when writing to help give the story the right feel. That generally gets me to between 200-300 words. Then I think about it during drive times to and from work and generally figure out how I want to end the story, without writing it down. Then, the next time I sit down I either come up with the bridge in the middle or go finish through to the ending I figured out. Often, the ending changes from where I thought it would go.
During the editing process, the story becomes more focused, and frequently changes the ending a bit. It did for me, in this one. I thought the ending I had wasn't strong enough, so I rewrote until I was happy with it, going back and changing things to support it in the earlier parts of the story.
As for subject matter, my wife hates dirt in a home. Before she went back to school and became a successful paralegal, she cleaned houses. So, I was trying to edit and format stories for the next issue of Aphelion and she was cleaning the den where I was working, making a heck of a racket with the vacuum, trying to get every little spec of it around me, and breaking my concentration. (It's possible I'm the messy one in our house.) Watching her, it struck me that it could be a fun challenge for myself to write a story about dirt and dust, but then, how do you make a tragic mistake with dust? That was tricky. I like characters best who are flawed. The prompt for this one showed it should be a big mistake that one has a hard time living with, and may shape their life trying to make up for it.
Thinking about those things gave me the plot for my story.
What about the rest of you?
PS, I should really add that I was helped by how human Daniel made his excellent challenge prompt. Mistakes and regret. That was right up my alley.
JP Garnier wrote: I'll get my votes in soon. FYI the italics were also left out of my story, but no big deal...
Now they are back in.
Nate has shown me how to save the story with the italics tags in, so hopefully this challenge will be the last time that's a problem.
You know, I think I am living the challenge in real time, making mistakes and learning how to deal with them. I'm setting up a list of admin rules for myself and a checklist I will review before posting the writing and the voting part of the challenge.
I appreciate your patience.
March 29, 2017, 07:03:17 AM by AdariasWrath23
I like that some of the authors have explained the process for their story lines, so I'll take a swing at that, too.
My story is actually an idea for a fantasy novel I was tossing around about a group called the Hero Forge. Like in the flash fiction, the group uses questionable means to bring out the best in people, but in the novel they would ultimately create the greatest enemy ever known and be revealed as a misled cult rather than a force of good in the world.
The backstory of it all is this: What if the bad things we do in life have a purpose for the greater good? Maybe sometimes the universe is steering us in a necessary direction. I, personally, would like to think we make mistakes to grow and evolve into better people (and who knows, maybe one day into heroes)!
Thanks again for the writing poke. Just because I'm quiet doesn't mean I'm not here.
My votes are in.
I'm so impressed with the quality and quantity of stories. I have many favorites. I love the spouse cheating story and the murder story. The science fiction and fantasy stories were enjoyable and professional too!.
Now I wish I worked on something.
Tim Watson
March 29, 2017, 11:24:38 AM by Tim Watson
My votes are in. Really good stories. A lot of top quality entertainment. Good job to the moderator.
kailhofer wrote: Your question also crosses over into how one writes the story, at least for me it does. I seldom have my story figured out when I first start. I might have a general theme or target in mind, but not more than that. Usually, the opening sequence of a scene pops into my head and I write that down. It's usually pretty short, less than a hundred words. It's not even a whole scene--just an opener, an image or action to hook interest. The next day, I fumble around, trying to find a direction I want to go, and honestly, what music I want to play when writing to help give the story the right feel. That generally gets me to between 200-300 words. Then I think about it during drive times to and from work and generally figure out how I want to end the story, without writing it down. Then, the next time I sit down I either come up with the bridge in the middle or go finish through to the ending I figured out. Often, the ending changes from where I thought it would go.
So you really put a lot of time crafting a story. You allow your inspiration to come from your sensory experience around you such as your wife cleaning or the music you choose to listen to or maybe how you feel and you draw from that.
Also, the story sometimes winds up different than you originally planned.
And you break up the scenes when you work on them and work on one for awhile and then put it down to rest from it and gain a fresh perspective next time.
First, I've learned from this and so thank you. Second, you really had to make a big effort to put this kind of time into your story, with all the other wrap up work your doing as editor.
I'm really honored.
AdariasWrath23 wrote: Morning everyone,
That is so inspiring. I'm going to have to let that sink in. Your story is certainly a treatment for something much longer.
I'm glad you're here.
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Apple releases fifth OS X 10.11 El Capitan beta to developers
Apple on Monday issued the fifth OS X 10.11 El Capitan beta to developers for testing ahead of an expected release later this fall.
Today's El Capitan beta version comes less than one week after Apple seeded its last round of prerelease software for developer assessment, a round that included iOS 9 and watchOS 2 builds.
As release notes for today's beta 5 have yet to be published, it is currently unknown what changes Apple applied to the next-generation Mac operating system. The last OS X 10.11 beta version fixed minor bugs, but noted known problems with Photos, Apple ID and Language settings
Developers can access the latest OS X 10.11 El Capitan build by updating through the Mac App Store or downloading from Apple's developer website.
Apple releases OS X 10.11 Public Beta 3 to testers
Apple today released OS X 10.11 Public Beta 3 to non-developer testers trying El Capitan ahead of its public release later this fall. The latest public beta version follows the off-cycle release of OS X 10.11 developer beta 5 seeded out on Monday.
Prior to these off-cycle releases, Apple typically stuck to releasing updates roughly two weeks apart. Apple last updated public beta users a week ago.
OS X El Capitan includes several performance and security improvements including better window management and a new Rootless security layer. The update also includes an overhauled Notes app, a smarter Photos app with extension support, and improvements to Spotlight including natural language search support.
OS X 10.11 Public Beta 3 can be found in the Mac App Store for Mac users running the public beta version of the operating system. In addition to running a Mac public beta for OS X El Capitan, Apple is currently running a public beta for iOS 9 as well ahead of its release.
Apple releases fourth public beta of OS X 10.11 El Capitan
Apple on Tuesday provided public OS X beta testers with the fourth pre-release build of El Capitan, its forthcoming free Mac operating system update set to launch this fall.
The new public beta of OS X 10.11 comes one day after the sixth developer beta was released. It is likely that both builds are identical.
The latest build is said to include only minor tweaks and bug fixes from previous versions. Betas of El Capitan have been released more quickly, suggesting that Apple could be nearly done with the OS X update and is only working on polishing code before a public debut.
Still, beta releases are known to feature bugs, as one tester told AppleInsider on Tuesday that they have experienced a kernel panic with the OS X Mail app in the latest version of El Capitan. As such, testers are advised to not install El Capitan on their Mac's main partition.
OS X 10.11 El Capitan is somewhat of a polish of last year's OS X 10.10 Yosemite update, refining things that were previously introduced. However, there are a handful of new features in the next-generation Mac update, including Split View, a better Mission Control, and various performance improvements such as Metal graphics processing.
Apple issues sixth beta of OS X El Capitan to developers
Apple on Monday released a sixth developer beta of OS X El Capitan, further refining the operating system as it rapidly approaches a fall release date.
The new version is listed as build 15A244d, and should be available for registered developers through the Mac App Store's Updates tab, or else the Developer Center Web portal. No significant changes have been announced.
The code is likely similar in character to the fifth beta, released a week ago, which made only minor tweaks and bug fixes. A fourth beta was issued just days prior.
The quick iteration of recent betas may suggest that Apple is nearly done with El Capitan, and only working on polishing code before a public debut.
The software will not be a major upgrade over OS X Yosemite, but will include things like Split View, a better Mission Control, and various performance improvements such as Metal graphics processing.
Fifth build of OS X 10.11 El Capitan supplied to Apple's public beta testers
Apple on Tuesday pushed out the fifth public beta of OS X 10.11 El Capitan, its forthcoming major update for the Mac operating system, scheduled to launch this fall as a free update.
Members of Apple's public beta program can now download the update via the Mac App Store. Because it is pre-release software with bugs yet to be resolved, Apple advises users not to run El Capitan as their main operating system.
Users can opt in to Apple's Beta Software Program at the company's website. It's available for both OS X and iOS.
Tuesday's update arrives two weeks after the fourth public beta of OS X 10.11. The new public beta release is a somewhat strange move for Apple, arriving before an anticipated new developer beta.
Developers remain on their sixth beta of OS X El Capitan, which was released on Aug. 3 – one day before the fourth public beta became available.
El Capitan beta 7 is now ready for testing
Apple’s fifth El Capitan public beta was quickly pulled yesterday after its release, but the company is ready to give developers a taste of the newest fixes in its upcoming operating system with the release of El Capitan beta 7.
The seventh El Capitan beta comes over two weeks after the previous beta was seeded to developers. It doesn’t appear that Apple has added any major new features in El Capitan beta 7, however it does include numerous bug fixes and performance enhancement.
Apple has also reseeded the 5th public El Capitan beta that brought a new colored OS X logo in the About This Mac section, which should be included in this beta build as well. Other than that most of the changes will be performance improvements.
Developers can grab the new update from the Apple Developer Center or via the Software Update section in the Mac App Store if you already have the previous beta installed. We’ll let you know if we find any big additions once we get it installed on your machines.
OS X El Capitan Recovery Update Version 2.0 Available for Beta Users
Apple has released an update to the Recovery feature for Macs running beta versions of OS X El Capitan. The update is recommended for all users running OS X El Capitan to install.
Recovery Mode allows users to boot into a recovery partition to repair, restore, and re-install OS X in the event something goes particularly wrong with the operating system.
Labeled as “El Capitan Recovery Update Version 2.0″, the update is 484MB and can be downloaded now from the App Store Updates tab. As usual, rebooting the Mac is required to complete the installation. Presumably the update improves the reliability of the feature, as accompanying release notes state the update “includes improvements” to the OS X Recovery feature.
If you’re having difficulty making the Recovery Update appear in the Mac App Store, go to the Updates tab and hit Command+R to refresh the available packages. Turning to the terminal is another option for more advanced users.
The current versions of OS X 10.11 are El Capitan dev beta 7 and public beta 5, both released earlier this week.
The final public version of OS X El Capitan is expected to debut this fall for all users as a free download.
Apple releases 8th developer, 6th public betas of OS X 10.11 El Capitan
Developers and members of the public who are beta testing OS X 10.11 El Capitan can now download the latest pre-release builds of the forthcoming software update on the Mac App Store.
Identified as build 15A279b, El Capitan beta 8 is also available through Apple's official developer portal. The software is meant for developers looking to test the operating system, and is not meant to be run as the main partition on a Mac.
For members of Apple's public beta program, a new sixth build is also available to download through the Mac App Store.
The new betas arrive less than two weeks after the seventh developer beta and fifth public beta were released.
Apple has a media event planned for next Wednesday where it is expected to unveil new iPhones and a revamped Apple TV. If the company sticks to its usual release schedule, OS X 10.11 El Capitan will likely arrive to the general public later this fall
El Capitan will be a free upgrade for Mac users. It is portrayed as largely a polish of last year's OS X 10.10 Yosemite, but will gain a handful of key new features like Split View, an enhanced Mission Control, and performance improvements.
Apple sneaks El Capitan release date into iPhone 6s presentation
We’re all excited about the news about the iPhone 6s, so we almost missed the part of today’s Apple event where the Cupertino company spilled the release date of El Capitan, the latest version of its desktop OS.
Senior vice president of software engineering Craig Federighi was onstage showing off the upcoming handset’s 3D Touch functionality with e-mail, and if you blinked, you might not have seen the part where we saw when OS 10.11 will be dropping.
One of the (inhumanly enthusiastic) demo messages described how well the developer beta of the new operating system was going, adding, “Let’s get it out to people right away!” Below that, in bold, came the important part: “El Capitan will launch September 30.”
We first learned about the new OS during the keynote at this year’s Worldwide Developers Conference in June. Its features include the ability to pin sites in Safari for quick access, increased performance, and multitasking functionality with Split View, which lets you run two applications side-by-side on the same screen.
El Capitan will be free when it launches at the end of the month. If you can’t wait to learn about what you’ll be able to do with your Mac hardware, check out our coverage of the beta releases.
Apple issues OS X 10.11 El Capitan GM Candidate to developers and public beta testers
Apple on Wednesday released a golden master candidate for its upcoming OS X 10.11 El Capitan Mac operating system to both developers and members of its public beta program, foreshadowing a wide launch expected at the end of September.
As a golden master release, the latest El Capitan build is expected to be a final or near final software version ready for mass consumption. Apple earlier today seeded GM build 15A282c to developers before pulling it from the Developer Portal, saying a correct version would be "coming soon."
Along with the developers, Apple informed Beta Software Program participants that they too can download the first GM Candidate after months of testing. In an email, the company thanks those who provided feedback and usage data over the development process before issuing instructions on download protocol. Members of the public beta program will find the GM Candidate in the purchased section of the Mac App Store. Clicking on the download button will download and automatically launch an installer.
Today's GM Candidate comes just over one week after Apple issued the sixth public beta build to testers alongside an eighth version for developers in August.
Apple is expected to launch El Capitan as a free update for Mac owners on Sept. 30.
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Bronze incense stick holder
Ming-Qing dynasty, 17th – 18th century
Length: 2 3⁄8 inches, 6 cm
A bronze incense stick holder in the form of a recumbent elephant, carrying a spherical vase on its back. The animal turns its head toward the right side of its body. The pointed ears are folded down, its legs are tucked underneath its body and the paws are resting flat on the ground. The elongated eyes, curled trunk and sharp tusks are well defined. The bushy tail is curled around the hindquarters. The miniature vase on the elephant’s back is cast in detail with two protuberant handles and an upturned rim. The bronze is predominantly of dark brownish colour. .
This small object has subtle Buddhist connotations alongside its function as an incense stick holder. The design of an elephant (xiang) carrying a vase (ping) on its back, is a pun for ‘peaceful time’—“when there is peace (tai ping), there are signs (ping).” [1] A pair of gilt bronze incense stick holders in the collection of Steven Hung & Lindy Chern, each in the form of a Buddhist lion and carrying a Xuande reign mark of the Ming dynasty, is comparable both in function and size.[2]
Tse Bartholomew, T., Hidden Meanings in Chinese Art, Asian Art Museum, San Francisco, 2006, 8.12, p. 237
Huang, K.N. Chinese Incense Burners, the Collection of Steven Hung & Lindy Chern, The National Museum of History, Taipei, 2000, no. 4, p. 29
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Brazilian Girl in L.A.
The bilingual adventures of a Latina filmmaker in Movieland
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“Gabby's dedication, intelligence and wit equal or outweigh many professional filmmakers I have met throughout my fifteen year career in Hollywood. Her ability as a storyteller of substance will certainly lead her to the next level.”
Benjamin Nowicki has more than a decade of experience in the Art Department of mainstream film productions (DreamWorks, Sony, Paramount, Universal, Warner Bros., among others), collaborating with directors such as Christopher Nolan, Nancy Myers, Sam Mendes and Robert Altman. He was Art Department Coordinator of “The Dark Night” (Oscar nominated for Art Direction) and Set Dressing Coordinator of “Road to Perdition” (Oscar nominated for Art Direction-Set Decoration).
“I've never been in a more rewarding creative partnership. Gabby is a rare kind of director. She truly understands the needs and the potential of each actor and gives them space to achieve their best performance.”
Phil Miler has worked in major productions like “Woman on Top” (Fox Searchlight) with Penelope Cruz, and the 3D animation “Rio” (Twentieth Century Fox). Phil has also voiced countless awarded commercials, movies and documentaries, such as “Pele Forever” (Universal). He iwas recently nominated for Best Actor for Gabby's film “Stuffed” and his voice can be heard in “The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn: Part 1”, released worldwide.
“Gabby is absolutely amazing. She has a unique vision and an amazing personality that is contagious on set. She is wonderful to work with and her enthusiasm for what she does is absolutely amazing.”
Brenna Rhea has been acting since the young age of six starting in theater. She has accomplished performing over 110 plays in six years. She has won numerous awards including: the lifetime achievement award, best female actress, and most influential female artist.
“Gabby gets really involved with all the actors and truly understands the characters, helping us tremendously along the way. She has a clear idea of what she wants and how she wants it and that's what makes a great director.”
Mariana Campos honed her talent with the best acting coaches of the world. She attended The Actors' Theatre School in London, the Stella Adler Studio of Acting in NY and the New York Film Academy in LA. She performed in several short films and recently received an award for Best Actress at the prestigious Amazonas Film Festival, in Brazil.
“Gabby does a great job of conveying her vision for the film's music while extending me the creative freedom I need to develop a score that carries my musical voice.”
Robert Ramos, Jr. earned his MFA degree in Music Composition for the Screen in 2009 and interned under acclaimed Hollywood composer John Powell. He has composed original music for several short films and served as Music Editor for the popular web series “The Legend of Neil”. He is also co-conductor of the Austin Cinematic Symphony.
“Having my short story adapted by Gabby was another step in my career as an unusually lucky writer when it comes to being successfully adapted into cinema.”
Marcelo Carneiro da Cunha is an award-winning Brazilian writer with 18 published novels. He wrote the original treatment of “O Branco” (The Color White), whose short film was awarded at the Berlin Film Festival in 2001. Two of his books have been adapted into feature films in Brazil. His novel “Nem Pensar” (No Way) was nominated for the Jabuti Awards 2011, the most prestigious accolade of Brazilian literature.
Hi! I'm Gabby, a 8-time award-winner Brazilian filmmaker based in Los Angeles. I graduated from New York Film Academy (Universal Studios) in 2011. Here I tell all about my filmmaking adventures. Enjoy!
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Quanto custa estudar na NYFA?
How to apply for NYFA (Brazilians only) | Como se matricular na NYFA
Brazil annouces anthology film "Rio, I love you" | Esse curta é só porque, Rio eu gosto de você
A Brazilian actor in Hollywood | Vida de ator brasileiro em Hollywood
Third assignment: a compliment! Yes! | Terceiro filme: um elogio! Uau!
A NYFA oferece bolsas de estudo para brasileiros?
The hottest Brazilian in Hollywood | Rodrigo Teixeira, o infiltrado em Hollywood
Scholarships to Brazilians in the U.S. | Bolsas pra brasileiros em universidades nos EUA
Actor, are you ready for success? | Ator, você está preparado para o sucesso?
How can a foreigner get a filmmaking work permit in U.S.? | Como trabalhar legalmente em cinema nos EUA
Por onde ando? | Where have I been?
- Check my crash course on Brazilian customs & etiquette
- Brazil is the largest country in SOUTH AMERICA and the 5th largest of the world
- Brazilian people speak PORTUGUESE (not Spanish)
- Brazil's capital is Brasília (not Buenos Aires, capital of Argentina - another country!)
- I'm from SÃO PAULO, the world's 7th largest metropolitan area (bigger than New York City), with near 11 million residents
- Amazon rainforest is almost 1.700 miles from my city
- I've never met an indian in my life
- I'm not a soccer fan neither Carnaval fan (but, yes, I know how to dance samba)
- Brazilian girl doesn't mean hooker! Wake up!
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The Patriarch should be first to see the icon of Kazan, Vatican official told
Moscow (AsiaNews) Moscow's Catholics will have to wait before they can pray before the icon of Our Lady of Kazan. A Vatican official told AsiaNews that "since it was given to Patriarch Alexis II it would be rude on our part if someone else in Moscow should see it before him. For this reason the icon will be shielded from the time of its departure from Rome till its handover in the Cathedral of the Dormition."
Catholics in the Russian capital will just have to wait till after next Saturday handover ceremony to pray before the hallowed image. The night vigil they requested, the Vatican official said, is not on the schedule of the delegation's visit to Moscow. It is hoped that local Catholics will show some understanding and accept the Vatican's decision which Orthodox officials respectfully welcomed.
"Whether the icon is given first to his Holiness Patriarch Alexis II or not is an internal Catholic matter, and it is not our place to make suggestions," said Father Igor Vyzhanov, spokesman for Orthodox-Catholic relations at the Department for External Church Relations of Moscow Patriarchate.
Today confirmation came that Mgr. Tadeusz Kondrusiewicz, Catholic Metropolitan of Moscow, will be part of the Catholic delegation that will hand over John Paul II's personal gift to the Patriarch. "We are happy that despite some obstacles our metropolitan bishop was finally included in the delegation so that he can meet the Patriarch in a brotherly fashion," a Moscow Catholic told AsiaNews. "Let us hope that the gift the Holy Father made will convince the Orthodox that our intent is good. Hopefully, it will break the ice between the two Churches."
The Moscow media has shown some interest in the Vatican delegation's visit and handover of the icon of Kazan but has complained that there is little information about the event itself. (AF)
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Review of Boone's Fish House & Oyster Room, Portland
Business first: Come see me today at Maine Craft Distilling, 101 Fox St. in Portland's East Bayside neighborhood from 3-5pm for your signed copy of DISTILLED IN MAINE!
Now for my recent experience at Boone's... I have to be honest: I have a rather tortured relationship with The Rooms. I've enjoyed several meals at the Grill Room and the Corner Room, but the Front Room always seemed to fall short of the ravings I hear over their brunch.
For those unfamiliar, The Front Room, The Corner Room, The Grill Room, and Boone's Fish House & Oyster Room are all owned by Chef Harding Lee Smith, a polarizing figure in Portland's restaurant community. Despite all the dust-up over the chef's personality and politics that the Bollard aired a few years ago (we don't need to revisit the links; if you missed it, google it), I continued to occasionally visit the Rooms for their happy hour where cheap wine and a free appetizer spread proved difficult to resist. But none of the restaurants ever made my short list; the food always seemed... generic, frankly, and so I never found myself drawn to return very often.
When the boyfriend suggested Boone's for his mom's birthday dinner, my first response was, no way. Then I thought, ugh, don't be such a B, give it a shot. It's a nice restaurant on the water, and I wanted to have an open mind about the food there. I called and made a reservation for a Monday night - I asked to sit outside, but they don't make reservations for the outside decks. So we crossed our fingers and went.
If you want to be all TL;DR about it, the takeaway is that the food is fine, the service was not so fine, and I was unfortunately not impressed despite trying to find a silver lining.
Really the tone was set as soon as we sat at our table. After sorting out the lost reservation mix-up (albeit one with no consequence), we were seated on the deck - it's a busy area with a casual vibe, so perhaps I was on edge, wanting the evening to be a special occasion, not just a weeknight dinner out. But after about ten minutes of waiting with no sign of service, I returned to the host stand to let them know the issue.
Our server came over a few minutes after I returned to the table, and I am going to try not to exaggerate for sympathy - offered a dismissive comment and poured our waters in silence. No, hi, how are you? Can I get you drinks? Sorry for the wait... She just offered an excuse, I guess? about what she was doing rather than waiting on us. I was frankly flabbergasted. I then was a friendly as possible, wanting the vibe at the table to be a positive one, but inside, I was pretty annoyed.
Despite the meal getting off to a bad start, the rest of our experience was fine - we enjoyed each others' company and the server didn't offer much more to our table in terms of personality (good or bad). I liked this tomato salad (a special), with balsamic vinegar and fried cheese curds. The Bang Bang shrimp, fried with a spicy creamy sauce, was crunchy but kind of bland for the genre.
The men enjoyed fish and chips - not the best plating I've ever seen, but again, the food was fine.
My wood-roasted monkfish over beet puree with potatoes, edamame, bacon lardons, and fingerling potatoes (so succotash, basically) was good - the monkfish is very meaty, almost like a chicken breast. It was smoky and the puree lent a nice sweetness.
As an aside, the fish at Boone's is served a la carte, so I appreciated this special dish that was already put together. It seems like work to have to assemble fish, sauce, and sides from the menu, where I'd rather see what the chef and cooks thinks goes well together.
The birthday gal enjoyed the wood-grilled chicken, served over a huge portion of mashed potatoes and sauteed spinach. We didn't stick around for dessert, but headed to Captain Sam's for an ice cream cone and a nice stroll down relatively quiet Commercial Street.
Our meal was probably close to $200 after tip (dinner was on the boyfriend's dad, so I didn't see the check), and I came away disappointed with the experience overall. I believe Boone's bills itself as a relatively finer dining restaurant - at the very least due to the menu prices. But with salt sprinkled on the floors to create traction on the otherwise slippery floors (due to the humidity - it's a waterfront restaurant, so it's pretty much always humid), the state of the bathrooms, and of course the lackluster service, the details that would otherwise make it a fine dining experience were just not there.
Bottom line: I unfortunately had my low expectations reinforced and believe that if you're looking for local seafood or a fine dining meal, you're better off headed somewhere else in Portland than Boone's. Now I know!
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Chooga-Chooga, Indeed.
Y'all are gonna hate me for this. Just remember that I love you and I never meant to hurt you.
I absolutely adore the Frank Oz 2004 remake of The Stepford Wives.
Now, this is NOT to say that I didn't love the original. Paula Prentiss is an unsung goddess and her work as Bobbie in the ultimate feminist horror-fantasy is timeless. No one will ever forget Bobbie Marlowe and her Android Karenina meltdown. "Oh Joanna... I thought we were friends... I thought we were friends... friends... coffee... how could you do a thing like that? Like that? Like that? Like that? Friends... friends... "
The thing is, though, that I think that people were, and are, just tired of remakes and that, coupled with the infighting on the set among pretty much ALL of the principles and Frank Oz, made for a film that did not do well. Frankly, when taken on its own, divorced from the original, this movie is still poignant as a feminist fairy tale and, most importantly of all, it's HILARIOUS.
It's like Mean Girls without the Mean.
For those of you who aren't aware of the story, basically, it's this little town in Connecticut where the women are being replaced by extra-perfect, extra-docile, extra-wifey versions of themselves because their husbands are sexist pigs that are threatened by their wives' collective success outside of the home. Because men are wusses.
This is played for pure horror in the original, although because it was filmed in the 70s and every woman went to the same elocution coach, it ends up being an unintentional side-splitter. Oz decided to take it all the way to Happy Town. The remake veers directly into Scooby-Doo Mysteries territory with Joanna, Bobbie and the new gay guy, Roger peering over each other's shoulders around corners but the basic fears are still there.
Nobody wants to be replaced. Nobody wants to live solely for the purposes of being someone's fantasy. When those things are real, it doesn't matter how colorful the landscape is, it's still overshadowed by dread. Both movies were played to be "thrillers in sunlight" in order to contrast the dark secret the town holds.
Callista Gingrich: Hopefully not our supreme robot overlord.
This is one of those "Town With a Secret" movies where you KNOW what the secret is and you KNOW that it's easily escapable but the strong woman just has to remove the villain's mask and she can't escape without her family but her family is part of the problem. Her husband is, anyway.
The fact that most of the remake is played out like a bubblegum pop song is probably what most people hated about it but I appreciated what Oz was trying to do. Plus, even though you can kind of see the tension between the actors, they still pull through with great performances. Glenn Close is fucking brilliant, as always.
I really suggest that everybody give this one another chance. It may not be the cult favorite that the original is but the remake is really not as bad as people make it out to be. Give it another chance.
Hell, maybe you can watch it while scrap-booking or making a pine cone centerpiece for the holidays! Or maybe you can watch it with the book club while reviewing a new catalogue of Christmas and Chanukah decorations. Or maybe you can watch it while working out!
Washing machine, ladies! Chooga-Chooga-Chooga-Chooga! Chooga-Chooga-Chooga-Chooga!
Also? Do-si-do.
Posted by BobSmash at 12:01 PM
Labels: awesome, battle of the sexes, Frank Oz, horror, Nicole Kidman, review, snark, Stepford Wives
James November 16, 2012 at 7:15 PM
Only issue with the remake was the fact that there was one great big gaping hole in the resolution. Doesn't change that I too loved it.
BobSmash November 16, 2012 at 8:32 PM
Well, that particular plot-hole is EVERYBODY'S complaint with it.
Were they androids or were they humans with implanted chips. Human women wouldn't have been able to throw off sparks or dispense cash or destroy the remotes with their bare hands the way they did but why would they install the original personality in the androids?
I always ask myself that question but then I realize that I kind of don't care. I'm having too much fun watching Glenn Close chew the scenery.
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So come join me Monday through Friday as I smack around YOUR favorites, too! Plus, I'm all smart and junk so you might just learn something in the process.
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Cambridge Housing Model
This model was developed by Cambridge Architectural Research for DECC (now BEIS) to underpin the Housing Energy Fact File and Energy Consumption in the UK, and to inform housing policy decisions. It was published to encourage scrutiny of the model, and in line with Government policies on transparency. The model is still being developed, and we welcome feedback and comments about it. The model uses English Housing Survey data, coupled to a SAP-based energy calculator, to estimate energy use and CO2 emissions for all homes in England, broken down by final use. The Model and User Guide are available on Hightail.
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CAR built on the work we did for the Government's 2050 Calculator, estimating energy use and carbon emissions through to 2050, by helping to develop a new 2100 Calculator that estimates emissions to the end of the century. This has 45 different policy levers (different ways policy makers can intervene to reduce energy use and emissions), at different intensities, from "business as usual" (Level 1) to "effort equivalent to the Apollo landings" (Level 4). The new Calculator has dull and familiar interventions - like more insulation on buildings, increased uptake of heat pumps, more solar power, and more wind turbines - but also more innovative interventions - like large-scale wave and tidal energy, using heat networks, biomass power with carbon-capture and storage and 'greenhouse gas removal'. All of the interventions and their impacts are based on the best available scientific evidence.
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Next Meeting of the Parish Council
The next Parish Council meeting will be held on Tuesday, 21st January 2020 at 7.30pm in the Village Institute. The Parish Precept for 2020/21 will be set at this meeting. Members of the public are always welcome to attend.
LOCAL ROAD CLOSURE
The road between Redmire Station Approach and the bottom of Scarth Nick will be closed from Monday 13th January until Friday 17th January. Details here
Revised Rubbish Collection Dates - Christmas & New Year
Normal Day
Revised Day
Tuesday Dec 31st
Thursday Jan 2nd
(Recycling)
Tuesday Jan 7th
Wednesday Jan 8th
(Waste)
PLEASE NOTE – Collections up to, and including, Tuesday 24th December are as normal.
Excess glass, cans and plastic recycling can be placed in open carrier bags but residents are asked to please remember to keep glass separate. Excess cardboard should be flat packed and placed beside the blue or white bag. Alternatively excess can be taken to the recycling centres located across the district, which will be open throughout the holidays.
Christmas cards and envelopes should be placed in the blue or white bag. However wrapping paper and tissue paper cannot be placed in your blue/white bag - it should be placed in the grey bin.
From 8th January there will be a 2 week collection of Christmas trees and Garden Waste (Subscribers only) on your collection day. Alternatively, they can be recycled at the Recycling Centre, Leyburn.
For further information contact : richmondshire.gov.uk or 01748 829100.
Yorkshire Post 2019 Rural Awards
Congratulations to Anne Moore who won the Rural Hero prize at the Yorkshire Post 2019 Rural Awards in October. Her many years of service to the community were recognised and a trophy was presented. Parish Councillor David Moore and his wife Carol and villagers Colin Gavin and John Hodgson were there to support her.
(Photos courtesy of Yorkshire Post)
A former Parish Councillor, Anne also celebrated her 80th birthday in early November and the village organised a secret party for her. Joan Hodgson would like to thank all those who contributed to a splendid afternoon that took Anne completely by surprise. People from across Wensleydale and Swaledale came along to wish Anne a happy birthday and Muker Silver Band provided the entertainment. Well done all.
Laura Gavin would like to thank everybody for their generous support of the Poppy Appeal. £261.33 was raised, our best ever total.
Also, a big thank you from the Carperby Concert team to all those who attended the IOTA gig in September. A fantastic night was had by all and £450 was raised for MacMillan Cancer Support
Village Benches
A big thank you to Graham Hodge who has repainted the village benches this year. If you notice any benches that need renovation or repair please let a councillor know.
Upper Dales Area Partnership
If you have any issues you wish to raise in future at this forum please contact Councillor Amsden or Councillor Sheldon. The next meeting will be held in April 2020.
Update from the Central Dales Practice
‘Flu Clinics – Bookings are now available and patients need to ‘phone or call in to make an appointment. Vaccine for the over 65s is due to arrive at the end of September. Patients with a BMI of over 40 are entitled to a ‘flu jab this year. Repeat prescriptions – Due to national difficulties in obtaining medication from suppliers, 3 days’ notice is now required. Medicines can now be ordered 14 days in advance to try and prevent patients running out of their medication. Staffing – Dr Brown is retiring on December 31st. A GP who is willing to act as a locum, when needed, is moving into the area. Joy is now working part time as the Practice Nurse. Jane Martin started in August and works on Mondays & Tuesdays. Her speciality is Diabetes. Laura Dunn works 3 days as a Receptionist across both surgeries. Joanne Hammond is training to be the new phlebotomist and will also work in both surgeries. Dolly is coming back to the Aysgarth surgery 2/3 days a week as the Health Care Assistant.
Parish Forums
The Yorkshire Dales National Park Authority continues to hold a series of parish forum meetings, as a way to engage more closely with parish councils within the YDNPA. Please contact Councillor Amsden for details of the meeting and let the Parish Council know if there is anything you would like to be added to the future agendas. Details of the work of the forums can be found at http://www.yorkshiredales.org.uk/living-and-working/parish-councils-and-meetings/parish-forums
Low Lane
The Enforcement issue on Low Lane is still ongoing and the Parish Council are waiting for further information from the YDNPA Enforcement Officer.
Community First Responders - REMINDER
The First Responders are still looking to recruit additional volunteers to the team. This does not require a great deal of time and can easily be arranged around your work/family/social commitments. A short training programme and a qualification test are all that is needed. Even a small commitment would be helpful to them and the local Ambulance Service. If you are interested in joining or simply wish to know more about the service they provide, please contact David Brampton on 663561.
Parish Communications - A Reminder
Half of the households in the parish council area receive the newsletter by e-mail and about a third access information via the Facebook page. The Parish Council would like to increase this number and thus save some money on parish communications. If you would like to help, please send an e-mail to Councillor Sheldon at carperbyparish@btinternet.com, giving your e-mail address or make a friend request for the Facebook page.
Parish Council Facebook Page
There is a new Parish Council Facebook page that can be found here. If you are a Facebook user, send a Friend request and we will add you to the page.
DOG WASTE BINS IN CARPERBY
One of the issues to emerge from the recent Parish Plan Event in January was the continuing problem of dog waste in the village. The main problem seems to stem from visitors and it was felt that the location of the dog waste bins could be better advertised. IF YOU OWN A HOLIDAY LET IN THE VILLAGE OR USE YOUR SECOND HOME FOR FRIENDS AND VISITORS, PLEASE PRINT & DISPLAY THE ATTACHED MAP. More copies of the map are available from Councillor Sheldon at The Quarter House.
Upper Dales Health Watch
Follow this link for news.
Freeholders Wood - YDNPA coppicing plan can be viewed by clicking here. If you wish to speak to Geoff Garrett on matters relating to Freeholders Wood please contact him on 01756 751648.
A reminder that NHS dental provision in the area has been awarded to ADB (Alpha). They have bases in Hawes, Leyburn and Bedale. Residents can register with them by calling 01969 623999.
Anyone interested in volunteering for the local branch of Daleswatch should contact Councillor Brampton via the Parish Council e-mail address at carperbyparish@btinternet.com
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What we're doing to develop Christchurch into an innovative and modern community.
Most of the Council's 1000 community facilities across Christchurch and Banks Peninsula were damaged to some degree in the 2010-2011 Canterbury earthquakes.
All Council-owned buildings have undergone Detailed Engineering Evaluations.
The Council owns 41 earthquake-prone buildings across Christchurch and Banks Peninsula.
We're doing routine assessments of our buildings to determine how many may include asbestos-containing material.
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Awful Horror Movies
Awful Movie Reviews of Horror Films
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Duel (1971)
Director: Steven Spielberg
Starring: Dennis Weaver, Jacqueline Scott, Eddie Firestone
Rant: Steven Spielberg's feature length debut. Although not initially released in theatres, originally it was shot for ABC's Movie of the Week. It's classified as an action/thriller but anyone that's seen it would surely tell you it's a horror movie. A really solid one too.
David Mann, played by Dennis Weaver, is a salesman driving through the middle of nowhere on a business trip. All of a sudden this old shitty tanker truck tries crashing into him and railing him off the road. It's in broad daylight and there's all this open space and land but it makes you feel so claustrophobic it's sickening. He just can't get away from this guy. He tries everything. Stopping off at a restaurant, trying different routes. The truck is always one step ahead. They really give you the feeling that this thing is unstoppable. Jeepers Creepers obviously borrowed a lot from it.
I've come to find out I don't like narration in movies. Unless it's Scorsese or probably a few others. For some reason I just don't like it. Either say it out loud or express it on your stupid face. Fuck all the other shit. It's the only part I don't like, but it doesn't make me not enjoy the movie or anything. There's no blood, no tits, no profanity, but this is a really fun awful horror movie.
Fun facts: Some of the scenes were used as stock footage in The Incredible Hulk television series.
Horror film: 7
Entertainment: 7.5
Suspense: 8.25
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Labels: 1970s, Survival
You guys are faggots.
James Toomey June 17, 2013 at 12:07 AM
You and the other guy fuck each other up the ass.
Actually he only fucks me up the ass.
geralmar June 10, 2016 at 2:07 PM
Hated that constantly disappearing/reappearing seatbelt. Totally distracting.
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Lewis Black Rants About Coffee (NSFW)
Some coffee guy who you’ve most likely never heard of is running for NYC Mayor. Well not actually, but it was a good way to get his coffee company’s press release published in the New York Times. The only thing interesting about this company’s million dollar campaign is watching Lewis Black, who always seems like he’s had one too many cups of coffee, rant about how important coffee is to NYC.
John Vassilaros is a personal friend of Lewis Black and the owner of Vassilaros & Sons Coffee, a large wholesale coffee company that’s been selling coffee direct to diners and dives around New York for 95 years. Now they’ve got themselves an AD agency (NSG/SWAT) who wants to help them sell directly to customers and claim the title of “New York’s own” brand of coffee, which they say doesn’t currently exist—ignoring the success and admiration of New York coffee companies like Joe, Grumpy & Gimme!
The company’s new strategy involves “developing new products” like an Italian roast espresso and a premium-priced (note: not premium quality) line of coffees called 1918. The first offering in this new premium-priced line of coffee includes a “rich roasted Sumatra.” So intense, earthy and bold!
Meanwhile, the company’s social media strategy includes a new Instagram account, who’s first post is a reappropriated image of Sam Penix’s coffee tattoo from Everyman Espresso—another well-known name in NYC coffee. I guess Vassilaros $1 million dollar budget wasn’t large enough to develop original content alongside their new products. But then again, Vassilaros thinks the “new world” of coffee still revolves around Starbucks, so they didn’t spend much on research either.
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Stuffed Animal Slumber Party a Hit at Fort St. John Public Library
Travis Fortnum
When it comes to yearly events, it's hard to get much cuter than the Fort St. John Public Library's annual teddy bear sleepover.
This past Saturday, plush pals of all shapes and sizes were invited to spend the night with the Grinch. With their parent's permission of course.
Morgan Churchill is the Children's Services and Program Coordinator with the Fort St. John Public Library. It was her that brought the idea here.
"The stuffed animal sleepover is in it's eighth year," she says. "It started as a fun opportunity for kids to drop their kids off and see what sort of fun they could have overnight at the library.
"Kids drop off a stuffed animal or stuffed creature," Churchill explains, "and it spends the night at the library. The kids do not spend the night. The stuffed animals spend the night."
The stuffies are signed in and their friends must fill out a short permission slip.
When the paperwork is complete, the kids say their goodbyes and goodnights and find a place for their plushies with the others.
"In the morning," Churchill says, "the kids come back in and they collect their friends and see that they had a fun safe night. Then they watch a video of what happened overnight and it's usually very surprising and pretty funny."
When it's all said and done, the kids take their buddies home - amazed at the antics their pals got into and glad to have them back.
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Borrowing Problems From The Future - The Flash S3E10
4:09 PM Ivonne Martin Barry Allen, DC, The Flash, TV Edit
The Flash came back last night from its midseason break, and set the stage for the rest of the season in the process with an unusual kind of story set-up, but one, I think, that works quite well. Overall, the writing and acting was strong in this episode, and for the first time since season 2, I am actually pretty excited about The Flash... with some caveats.
Read on below the fold to find out what's in store for the future... (spoilers to follow)
When last we left our stalwart speedster, he had gotten knocked so hard that he ended up 4 months into the future, and bore witness to Savitar murdering Iris. A distraught Barry has avoided telling anyone about it, instead attempting to enjoy every waking moment with Iris, while still trying to figure out on his own how to change the future. Desperate for advice, he even asks HR Wells his writer's opinion on whether the future is set in stone, to which HR tells him that he felt that a man trying to avoid his future ends up running headlong into it anyway (a very Oedipal way of thinking of things, to be sure).
Having seen the future, Barry has a bad moment when the freak-of-the-week turns out to be Plunder, a silly pirate-looking baddie who Barry saw on the news in the future. Desperate to change the future, Barry botches capturing Plunder, but then Kid Flash, who is trying to make a name for himself, ends up catching the guy. Barry freaks out and reams poor Kid Flash for being reckless, and everyone, even Joe and Iris, are like "yo, chill out and lay off of Wally, will you?"
Arr matey, I be a shitty DC villain, I be!
Thankfully, this whole secret keeping doesn't last for very long, unlike in previous seasons of any show in the Arrowverse. Besides, it's not like Iris hasn't noticed Barry's been acting weird. So he finally decides to come clean to her.
Sidenote: the crimson jumpsuit she's wearing in this scene is freaking stellar, and I am jealous that she can rock something like that.
Photo Credit: This awesome Flash Fashion blog I just discovered that tells you where to buy the clothing you see on the show!
Anyway, after Barry tells Iris she's going to be brutally murdered by Savitar in four months, she cries a little at the prospect of her shortened lifespan, but then she takes it like a boss and gets down to business. Barry says he will stop at nothing to change the future, and Iris says they need help to deal with it, so they need to tell the team... except for Joe, because she is worried her father will freak out and run headlong into danger against Savitar himself, to try to save her life.
Let's take a moment to discuss Iris. I have eviscerated this show since last season, at least, and really the Arrowverse in general, for its treatment of women characters. This is, after all, a feminist blog, so this is of interest to us here at the Writ. And the writers of The Flash seem to struggle with Iris West in particular. They seem to have found a good place for Caitlyn, finally (although rumor has it that Robbie Amell, who played her fiance, is coming back this season, so I cringe at what that's going to do to Caitlyn). But Iris has been relegated entirely to the role of team cheerleader and counselor, and that's it. Her journalist career seems to simply have vanished, and she does nothing in the show that isn't somehow revolving around Barry's feelings.
So I am both pleased and frightened by the fact that the second half of the season seems to be revolving around her. Maybe, finally, she can be the badass character that I know her to be, and that Candice Patton can absolutely portray. But I'm not happy that the end result may be her death, although I swear, if they kill the only black female character on the show, I am done with The Flash. *shakes fist at writers* You hear me? DONE. Also, I'm really just sick of Barry having to lose someone important in every freaking season to "keep him motivated" or whatever. Also, threatening the hero's love interest is a shitty trope that probably needs to die as viciously as Iris does in the future.
But even if she doesn't die, there's the danger that Iris won't be an active participant in her own rescue, but rather that she will fall into the trap of the superhero's girlfriend that is more object than person. You know the type: Lois Lane always getting into trouble so that Superman has to rescue her, every Batman girlfriend in all the movies, and every iteration of Iris West ever in the comic books needing to be rescued by The Flash. I am heartened by her boss "let's do this" response to finding out her death is impending, but I hope she maintains her strength and actually does something with it. And I also hope that the show remembers to focus on her at least some of the time, and show the effect on her life of knowing she might be dead in four months. That kind of knowledge can really change the way someone lives their life. Knowing they are going to die soon, many people will stop caring about getting into dangerous situations (so like, maybe she ought to become a more aggressive reporter and get into the faces of meta baddies more often), or will strive to make a mark on the world by doing more charity work, or will want to travel and do all the things they always wanted to do but suddenly have very little time to do.
The danger here is that Iris remains the same character despite this knowledge, when really... this plot has all the trappings of developing her character in a way they have never done before on this show. Flash writers, I implore you: don't waste this beautiful opportunity.
Anyway, when Barry and Iris tell the team about the future, the team resolves to change it. Barry and Cisco vibe to the future so that they can take a look at the news reel Barry had a glimpse of (the same one where he saw Plunder), and so the team now has an idea of all the things in the next four months they can fiddle with. Barry also noted during the vibing that unlike his previous trip to the future, this time when Savitar kills Iris, HR is up on a nearby rooftop with a rifle, which is definitely a change that happened because Barry told the team about the future. So it is possible to change the future, then.
Team Flash has a Vibe machine, which is pretty cool!
With this, the episode lays the groundwork for what we'll see the rest of the season. We know that Music Meister is involved (and actually, just this week, the actor cast as Music Meister for the Supergirl/Flash crossover sing-along episode was announced), we know that Killer Frost is going to make another appearance (which coincides with Caitlyn having trouble with her anti-meta bracelets in this episode), and we know that Gorilla Grodd will be back. There were several other major and minor plot points mentioned, including that the STAR Labs Museum (which has a terrible opening in this episode that no one showed up to) closes down in four months as well, so Cisco decides to help keep it open as one of the changes to the future (pretty genius, too: he calls local schools and offers them discount tickets to get kids excited about science and maybe bring their parents in later, too. Savvy business sense, Ramon!)
More sideplot stuff:
Caitlyn seeks Julian's help in curing her meta state, and invites him to join Team Flash because she knows he's lonely and trying to deal with the fact that he was a villain's puppet all by himself. Ultimately, despite initial misgivings (and him being a total dick at first), Team Flash welcomes Julian into the fold.
Wally, after being torn down by Barry for no reason at all, accepts Barry's apology and explanation for being a douche. Kid Flash comes into his own in this episode, obviously enjoying his super powers and finally getting a fan following after he captures Plunder. Although Plunder is seriously a D-class goofy villain, and Wally deserves way better, so hopefully he gets better action and more of a challenge later. Still, such a pleasure to watch Wally (and Keiynan Lonsdale by extension, who is clearly loving his job) having a blast with his powers.
We get a glimpse of a bounty hunter who is after HR Wells, as she pops into this earth looking for him. So I'm guessing we're in for some nasty business next week. This bounty hunter is actually supposed to be Cynthia Reynolds, aka Gypsy, and please goddess don't let them call her Gypsy. It's nice to see Sleepy Hollow's Jessica Camacho is in the role!
Anyway, after setting up the rest of the season for us, I'm both excited and a bit apprehensive about what's coming.
What did you think of The Flash's return? Sound off in the comments below!
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In view of the wording of the Valuation Act, some have assumed
that the word "new" requires the assumption of new rail in
making a valuation, but that where records show that the material
in the road was originally second-hand material, and is at present
second-hand material, an initial depreciation equivalent in amount
to the difference between the cost per ton of new rail and the cost
per ton of relayer rail, such as was used, may be entered under the
depreciation column. A further examination of the property itself
at date of valuation will determine whether or not there is any addi-
tional depreciation, and to what extent it exists.
We speak of a new property and thereby refer to a property which
has been created where no such property existed before. It may be
of new material in all its parts, or it may be "new" as to grading,
ownership of land, and many other of its elements, but have second-
hand material and equipment entering largely into its construction.
If substitute units are to be excluded from consideration, consist-
VALUATION OF PUBLIC UTILITIES 1377
ency demands that original conditions of existing units in their
present service must be restored, and that no interpretation of the word
''ne\v" is to be permitted which places a property unit in any better
or worse condition that it was in when first installed in present
service. The property to be reproduced is the existing property. Each
unit of property which is in existence is to be reproduced in the same
condition as it was when it was put to its present service.
Conclusion as to the Proper Conception of Reproduction. — In line
with the foregoing discussion, the Committee recommends that repro-
duction estimates be based on the assumption that the identical prop-
erty is to be reproduced, rather than a substitute property; that while
apparent present-day conditions, that would affect the cost of repro-
ducing the property, must be considered in any logical estimate, yet
history must also be considered, to determine what is to be repro-
duced, the conditions under which it is to be reproduced, and how the
estimates must be made; that for all those items, concerning which
there can be no doubt, the engineer should use the basis plainly apply-
ing, and that for those that are doubtful, or have been questioned,
he should present the effect of the use of the different bases clearly,
that the determining body may have the data for a wise decision; and
that normal present conditions shall determine the prices and methods
for doing the work.
Work Preliminary to the Making of the Estimate of Keproduction.
The Schedule. — The first step in estimating the reproduction cost
of a property is such a study of the property and its history as will
enable the estimator to make a complete list of all items, lay out a
proper financial and construction programme, and fix proper unit
prices to the several items of the schedule.
Every appraisal offers its own problems, and it would be impossible
for the Committee to lay down any fixed rules for the detail of ap-
praisal that would be of universal or even of general application.
When the records of a conipany owner — maps, plans, specifications,
deeds, and other titles to property — engineering records of construc-
tion and accounting records are sufiiciently complete, it may be possible
and permissible to make up schedules from the records and depend on
inspection in the field to furnish a check on the records and to apply in-
formation to make good any deficiencies. Where, however, as is often
the case, the records are incomplete and fragmentary, it becomes neces-
sary to make most careful field schedules of the property, using the
records as far as practicable to check field measurements and to furnish
as much light as possible on the history of the construction.
Classification of Property. — For scheduling, the property should be
divided into groups of items or units, preferably following some well-
1378 VALUATION OF PUBLIC UTILITIES
established classification of accounts. For example, in railroad valua-
tion, the grouping of items in each schedule should follow the group-
ing in the correspondiiig account of the Interstate Commerce Com-
mission's Classification of Property chargeable to capital accounts.
Where units of property or items of cost appear to have no place in
such classification of accounts, but are clearly part of the cost of the
property or are claimed as such, they should be set up as a sub-group,
in the account that appears to be most appropriate.
Field Schedules. — When it becomes necessary to make surveys or
field inspections in order to prepare the schedules, it is desirable that
each property xmit in each schedule be described so fully, and identified
by such complete measurements, that no question could be raised as
to its identification or as to the propriety of the use of the unit price
that is subsequently assigned to it. It is entirely possible to prepare,
based on field work alone, complete schedules of all visible physical
property of a company operating any sort of a public utility, but it
must be borne in mind that such schedules are not complete, because
they ignore the history of the construction, and that by no means all
the legitimate cost of creating or reproducing any property is repre-
sented by visible physical property, even where every item is capable
of being fully measured. Careful consideration must be given to such
history as shows any specially favorable or unfavorable conditions that
may have been encountered during the construction of these items.
It must be emphasized that all items of material or work which en-
tered into or were incidental to actual existing units are to be con-
sidered in the reproduced units as far as they can be determined.
Use of Records. — Most careful study of all existing records consti-
tutes an essential part of the work of a reproduction estimate. Every
plan, note, or cost record existing which relates to a plant unit meas-
ured and described in the field should be studied so that error may be
eliminated and full data secured. It frequently occurs that plans are
made for a structure and that during construction changes were made
without notation on the original plans, such changes being indicated
by fragmentary supplementary plans which are not preserved, or by
no plans at all. In all such cases the appraisal record should correct
the existing record as completely as practicable. Existing records
should be used to the fullest extent to identify invisible items of prop-
erty, such as underground construction or other inaccessible property,
and to establish the nature and condition of existing items when
originally installed.
Additional Information Not in Official Records. — Occasionally a
case will be encountered where the history of the property is not to be
determined with any degree of completeness from existing records, but
on inquiry among former officials, former employees, consulting engi-
neers, contractors, or others who may have had connection with the
property during all or a part of the building period, a large amount
of thoroughly reliable information may be had which will throw great
light on history and on costs. The use of all such data is highly
desirable.
Little dependence should be placed on mere gossip or recollection
unaided in any way by record, especially if it involves any increase
in cost beyond a normal figure.
An illustration of the advantages to be gained from such an inquiry
occurred in a recent valuation on a mid-western interurban railway.
One of the branches of this road had been built as an independent line
which changed owners once before coming into the hands of the pres-
ent company. Aside from maps, a top-of-rail profile, and general data
as to structures, all of which had been secured by a recent survey, the
company had no records, not a word as to history, and nothing as to
original cost. Inquiry developed the fact that all the construction
records had been stored in the ofiice of one of the officials, had not been
turned over to the second owner, and after the death of this former
official had been sold for old paper. Further inquiry yielded the names
of one or two contractors. One of these men was visited. He went
through his vault and unearthed complete profiles, copies of all progress
and final estimates for grading, bridging, and track laying, plans for
several bridges, and a large volume of construction photographs.
With his aid, the men who purchased the right of way were found, and
by their correspondence and receipts the original cost of most of the
right of way (none of which was disclosed by deeds) was secured. This
search disclosed the fact that many expenses were incurred which
would not be even surmised by an examination of the property.
It is clearlj' the duty of the men engaged on an appraisal to take
every precaution to secure to the fullest extent all data bearing on the
actual work of construction as, in making an estimate of the cost of
reproduction, due weight must be given to all evidence showing what
the actual construction of the property included.
No Specific Assumptions as to Difficulties Where Not Capable of
Proof. — In cases where no records are obtainable which will su])ple-
ment actual field measurements and observed conditions, it would ap-
pear that the only proper course is to base the estimate of cost of re-
production on each unit of property as measured, assuming it to have
been built under conditions which may be presumed from recent sur-
roundings. To assume that the unit in question would cost less or
more than the average unit, or that work has been omitted, or extra
work done, in the case of a specific unit, when there are no records
or obtainable data and nothing in the general property to justify the
assumption, woiild be conjectural and carry little weight.
The Field Inspection. — The Committee deems it to be no part of
its duty to undertake to outline methods in detail. It is jiroper to
emphasize the necessity of full and complete records of field inspection
in such form that they may be readily used in computation and fully
indexed for filing. There is always a possibility of doubt regarding
plans and records of old properties, uncertainty as to changes or
abandonment, and, unless supported by field work, many really valuable
records may be minimized in importance. It must be borne in mind
that valuation work, especially the making of schedules, is of i^erma-
nent value as a record of property, and that its value as a record for
the Courts depends on the completeness of the description and identi-
fication of each property unit.
Many uncertainties can be cleared up, and much of the speculative
character of estimating past conditions can be eliminated by good
field work. There is a lack of significance, a failure to meet the re-
quirements of appraiser or Court in every case Avhere field inspection
is hastily or carelessly made or no adequate record is made of the work.
Forms for Field and Ojfice Record. — -The use of forms is becoming
so general and their value in securing uniform information from dif-
ferent field men is so great that there seems to be no ground for ques-
tioning their desirability or the propriety of their use. There are so
many difi^erent forms required on a large appraisal and so many have
been devised in connection with appraisal work in progress in the
United States that no attempt is made to discuss the subject or to
make suggestions. The adoption of full, complete, and carefully drawn
field and office forms for field notes, schedules, and inventories is ap-
proved practice. The more completely all pertinent data regarding any
class of property can be developed on a single set of forms without
transcribing, the more satisfactory and convincing is the record.
Unit Prices on Physical Property Other Than Land.
There is no more important consideration in connection with valu-
ation work than the correct determination of unit prices.
Necessarily, every large valuation involves a special study of the
conditions which alfect cost of work in the community and on the
property, and of actual costs of various classes of work on the property
under investigation. The prevailing rate of wages for different classes
of labor, local prices on material, freight rates on material, or local
contract prices, are by no means the only matters which are to be
considered and taken into" account.
Unit prices, or unit costs, which are finally determined upon and
adopted as multipliers in the schedule should contain every element
of cost which can be determined and allocated to each particular item.
VALUATIOX OF PUBLIC UTILITIES 1381
A very erroneous result is likely to be secured if the appraiser adopts
net cost for materials delivered to the property as shown by the vouch-
ers for material, and actual contract figures for labor items, because
in general these do not take into account all elements of cost to the
In arriving- at miit prices for final application, all relevant facts
must be considered, and eventually sound judgment must be brought
to bear on all data, if a proper unit is to be secured. The Committee
desires to emphasize the fact that in the adoption of unit prices there
is wide room for variation and error. A schedule may be made with
the greatest of accuracy, field inspection may be most elaborate, and
every possible check may be applied to the computations, but, if iniit
prices are carelessly adopted, which are too low or too high, a con-
siderable error may be made easily in the valuation of tangible prop-
erty.
The unit prices on most of the items entering into a valuation are
not capable of exact and absolute determination or proof. This is
especially true of all items in which labor largely enters into the cost.
The correctness of the figure finally adopted in every case depends
in large measure on the reliability of records of actual costs, of similar
units in recent years, the thoroughness of the study that has been
made of those records, and the experience and soundness of judgment
of the appraiser in the use of these studies and of other support-
ing data.
In the determination of unit prices the following general matters
must be considered:
1. — What allowances should be made for contractor's profit in
fixing prices?
2. — Shall unit prices be averaged over a period of time or shall
actual prices as of the date of valuation be used?
3. — To what extent shall prices prevalent in piecemeal construc-
tion be considered?
4. — What should be included as elements of unit cost in fixing
the price to be used?
1. — Contractor's Profit. — In assuming the reproduction of a prop-
erty, the most reasonable assumption in general is that it would be
let by contract, and that prices should be applied which would include
the profit of contractors engaged on the work.
The fair total contract cost of the work, after award on fair com-
petitive bidding, constitutes an equitable basis of unit cost determina-
tion, such cost including a reasonable profit to the contractor and
necessary sub-contractors. To this should be added incidental unit
costs, overhead, administrative, and general costs incurred by the
corporation, which are definitely assignable to the different units of
property as part of the unit price.
There are cases, however, in which it would be a proper assumption
that the company would establish its own organization, purchase its
own plant and material, and do its own work.
The extent and character of the property under investigation, the
actual history of the construction of the property itself, or the general
practice in the part of the country in which it is located, will be the
determining factors in arriving at the proper assumption to adopt.
When it is proper to assume that the company does the work itself,
the estimated full cost to it should govern, including in the estimate
proper recognition of the use of plant, hazards, and the fact that
changes, modifications, and adaptation of the original plans generally
occur and involve increased cost over the estimate, but no contractor's
profit; unit prices should then be used, which represent what the esti-
mated total unit cost to the company would be, by the method assumed
to be proper.
2. — Shall Average Prices or Prices as of a Certain Date he Used?
— When a valuation is made as of a certain date, it must be deter-
mined whether prices of materials and labor as of the date in question
shall be used, or whether prices averaged over a period of years are
more proper.
A study of the trend of prices of various commodities shows
widely differing conditions. For example, Bessemer steel rail has
remained steadily at $28 per ton, f. o. b. mills, since 1901 until recently;
in some sections of the country lumber has increased with a fair degree
of uniformity from 1901 to the present time, oak showing more than
50% increase, white pine more than 100% increase, and hemlock
more than 50% increase; Portland cement, on the other hand, has
decreased in some localities from $3 in 1880 to about $1 per bbl. in 1915,
but increased in the year following; labor has steadily increased in
recent years, with the upward trend still noticeable.
Other materials — an example of which is copper — have fluctu-
ated, going up and down from extreme high to extreme low figures
without any relation to changes in labor or other material prices.
These facts compel most careful analyses of the records of the prop-
erty under appraisal, and of other like properties in the same vicinity,
to determine price tendencies, actual costs of work done, and special
local conditions which affect costs, if average prices are to be used.
The illustration afforded by the Buffalo gas case (3 P. S. C, 2d
Dist. N. Y., 1913), is given as showing the effect on valuation of price
fluctuation. There were almost exactly 30 000 tons of cast-iron gas
pipe in question. The Commission summarizes the fluctuations as
follows :
In 1897 when the property was taken over this
would have been worth, at the prevailing price. $547 500
Had a valuation been made in 1907, it would have
been worth, at the price of that year 1200 000
On the average prices of 5 years, 1893 to 1897 617 700
On the average prices of 5 years, 1903 to 1907. .. . 944 400
It seems to the Committee that what is desired is what may be
termed normal present-day prices.
By normal, present-day prices is meant such prices, actual or
average, as will be fairly representative of the period, but which do
not reflect violent fluctuations up or down. These normal prices
will be to some extent affected by changes in the market.
Many commodities, of which cement is an example, have had a
downward trend, owing to increase in home manufacture and to im-
provements in the art. Other commodities, like lumber and timber of
^11 kinds, have steadily increased in price owing to decreasing supply
and greater demand. There can be no serious question as to the pro-
priety of the use of normal, present prices, or prices averaged over 2 or
3 years at most, rather than the use of a long average which would
bring the price above or below a proper, normal, present price.
In the case of such materials as iron pipe and copper, the price
fluctuations of which have been violent during short periods, the prob-
lem becomes specially difficult. The actual construction of all large
properties has extended over a period of years. An investigation of
actual costs of construction on large properties will generally disclose
the fact that materials have actually been bought at both high and low
figures ; frequently large quantities will be bought near one limit or the
other. Actual cost, where ascertainable, gives actual investment in
this material. Actual cost is not always capable of determination
over the entire life of a property, and for such material as entered
in during such period some arbitrary unit must be adopted, even in
the case of "original cost" estimates.
The practice, adopted on some recent appraisals, of using a price
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Action Mesothelioma Day
EDM number 2056 in 2010-12, proposed by Annette Brooke on 11/07/2011.
Categorised under the topics of Diseases and Industrial health and safety.
That this House congratulates the many asbestos support groups throughout the country who on 1 July 2011 came together to remember the thousands of people who have died of mesothelioma, an asbestos-related disease for which there is no cure; expresses concern that the British mesothelioma death rate is the highest in the world; is concerned at thisand the rising number of deaths of teachers and other support workers working inschools due tothe large number of schools which still contain asbestos; commends the work of the Asbestos in Schools Group; and calls on the Government to adopt US-style policies of disclosure with local authorities and governors, providing an annual update to parents and teachers on the condition and management of asbestos in schools.
This motion has been signed by a total of 42 MPs.
Annette Brooke 11/07/2011 Mid Dorset and North Poole Liberal Democrat Proposed
Mike Hancock 11/07/2011 Portsmouth South Liberal Democrat Seconded
Bob Russell 11/07/2011 Colchester Liberal Democrat Seconded
Mark Durkan 12/07/2011 Foyle Social Democratic and Labour Party Seconded
Jim Dobbin 12/07/2011 Heywood and Middleton Labour Seconded
Alan Meale 12/07/2011 Mansfield Labour Seconded
Margaret Ritchie 12/07/2011 South Down Social Democratic and Labour Party Signed
Andrew George 12/07/2011 St Ives Liberal Democrat Signed
Steve Rotheram 13/07/2011 Liverpool, Walton Labour Signed
Tom Blenkinsop 13/07/2011 Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland Labour Signed
Stephen Williams 13/07/2011 Bristol West Liberal Democrat Signed
Linda Riordan 13/07/2011 Halifax Labour Signed
Jeremy Corbyn 13/07/2011 Islington North Labour Signed
John McDonnell 13/07/2011 Hayes and Harlington Labour Signed
Naomi Long 13/07/2011 Belfast East Alliance Signed
Cathy Jamieson 13/07/2011 Kilmarnock and Loudoun Labour Signed
Martin Caton 13/07/2011 Gower Labour Signed
Jim Sheridan 14/07/2011 Paisley and Renfrewshire North Labour Signed
Tony Lloyd 14/07/2011 Manchester Central Labour Signed
John Leech 14/07/2011 Manchester, Withington Liberal Democrat Signed
Mary Glindon 14/07/2011 North Tyneside Labour Signed
Grahame Morris 18/07/2011 Easington Labour Signed
David Heyes 18/07/2011 Ashton-under-Lyne Labour Signed
Hugh Bayley 19/07/2011 York Central Labour Signed
John Pugh 20/07/2011 Southport Liberal Democrat Signed
Lindsay Roy 11/08/2011 Glenrothes Labour Signed
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Screening of EPCR gene mutations in children with acute lymphoblastic leukemia
Dilara F.A Bali1, Didem T Özkan2, Emin Kürekçi3, Nejat Akar4
1 Department of Medical Biology, Niğde Ömer Halisdemir University Faculty of Medicine, Niğde, Turkey
2 Vocational School of Health Service, Okan University, İstanbul, Turkey
3 LÖSANTE Children’s and Adult Hospital, Turkey
4 TOBB-ETU Hospital, Ankara, Turkey
Date of Submission 04-Jun-2018
Date of Web Publication 3-Dec-2018
Dilara F.A Bali
Department of Medical Biology, Faculty of Medicine, Niğde Ömer Halisdemir University, Niğde
DOI: 10.4103/ejh.ejh_13_18
Bali DF, Özkan DT, Kürekçi E, Akar N. Screening of EPCR gene mutations in children with acute lymphoblastic leukemia. Egypt J Haematol 2018;43:149-50
Bali DF, Özkan DT, Kürekçi E, Akar N. Screening of EPCR gene mutations in children with acute lymphoblastic leukemia. Egypt J Haematol [serial online] 2018 [cited 2020 Jan 22];43:149-50. Available from: http://www.ehj.eg.net/text.asp?2018/43/3/149/246775
Acute lymphoblastic leukemia, a malignant disorder of lymphoid progenitor cells, affects both children and adults, with peak prevalence between the ages of 2 and 5 years. It has been reported that the incidence of thrombosis varies between 2.4 and 11.5% in children with acute lymphoblastic leukemia [1]. Thrombosis, which is one of the major complications of acute leukemia, may cause adverse prognosis. Thromboembolic events may be caused by a variety of factors, including their own effects. It is thought to be the result of chemotherapeutic agents such as central venous line, chemotherapy, catheterization, infections, dehydration, steroid, l-asparaginase and acquired or inherited prothrombotic defects [2].
Coagulation mechanism is a complex reaction that contains negative and positive feedback reactions, multiple enzyme systems, humoral and cellular procoagulants, and anticoagulants. Membrane-bound EPCR helps increase anticoagulant protein C activation helping to prevent organ damage by thrombin-thrombomodulin complex. EPCR is expressed in dendritic cells and leukocytes, lung pneumocytes, neutrophils, heart and lungs and in the endothelial cells of the arteries [3].
The human EPCR gene is located on chromosome 20q11.2 and has four exons and three introns. To date, several polymorphisms and mutations − including a 23-bp insertion − have been reported on the human EPCR gene. Exons 2 and 3 encode most of the extracellular region of the EPCR gene [4],[5]. This insertion of 23 nucleotides preceding the insertion point (nt4031) introduces a frameshift and premature stop that deletes the entire α2 domain of the gene. The truncated protein results in absence of the cytoplasmic tail, transmembrane domain, and part of the extracellular domain. This leads to a decrease in PC activation. This has been proposed as a risk of thrombosis.
EPCR has four common haplotypes. In studies investigating whether variations in the EPCR gene or plasma sEPCR levels are risk factors for deep vein thrombosis (DVT), these A3 haplotypes have been associated with G-allele-increased plasma sEPCR levels specific for the A3 haplotype, which account for 86.5% of the variations in sEPCR levels [5].
In this study, we aimed to determine the possible EPCR gene changes, one of the factors thought to cause thrombosis in childhood leukemia, to determine the frequency of pediatric leukemia and to investigate whether these changes have any effect on thrombosis formation.
For this study, 133 children aged between 1 and 15 years who were diagnosed with acute lymphoblastic leukemia in the Hospital for Children with Leukemia were examined.
DNA samples were isolated with the MagNa Pure Automatic Isolation system (Roche Diagnostics Gmbh, Mannheim, Germany). The EPCR gene was amplified by PCR with DNA primers. 23 base insertions were screened with primers for the detection of A1 haplotypes. To detect the 23-bp insertion, the PCR product was electrophoresed in 3% agarose gel and stained with ethidium bromide and was sequenced, using a DNA sequencer (Beckman Coulter DNA Sequencer, California, ABD, USA). For the EPCR gene A-1 haplotype, DNA sequence analysis was performed on the obtained PCR products and the results were evaluated.
When the sequence was analyzed, we detected in three (2.25%) of the 133 patients screening for the EPCR genome 23-bp insertion mutation. Akar et al. reported that 23bp insertion was detected 0.8% in the healthy study population. The polymorphism (G7014C) present in the 3′UTR includes A1 haplotype changes was detected in one of 10 different patients. This change is shown in [Figure 1]. The mutation was detected in a 7-year-old male patient who was diagnosed at the age of 3 years with AML and was treated with acute myeloid leukemia (AML) BFM 2004 protocol. Acute lymphoblastic leukemia (ALL) BFM 95 h group received treatment when ALL was more dominant when the disease recurred. On recurrence, he received Nopho 88, CCG 1941, FA and clofarabine treatment protocols, but he died despite treatment.
Figure 1 A1 haplotype 3′UTR G7014C change at EPCR gene.
It can be predicted that the G7014C mutation in the gene 3′UTR is effective at degrading the mRNA stabilization and regulation of the EPCR gene. More research is needed to investigate the association of this change with survival. On the contrary, the frequency of 23-bp insertion at EPCR gene change in pediatric leukemia individuals was not different from the normal population.
The study is carried out in accordance with the code of Ethics of the World Medical Association (Declaration of Helsinki) for experiments involving humans. This study involves blood from patients with leukemia. The Ankara University, School of Medicine Ethics Committee approved the study protocol (project No.03-107-13/2013), and informed consent was provided by the patients’ parents.
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Taylor FB Jr, Peer GT, Lockhart MS, Ferrell G, Esmon CT. Endothelial cell protein C receptor plays an important role in protein C activation in vivo. Blood 2001; 97:1685–1688.
Akar N, Gökdemir R, Ozel D, Akar E. Endothelial cell protein C receptor (EPCR) gene exon III, 23 bp insertion mutation in the Turkish pediatric thrombotic patients. Thromb Haemost 2002; 88:1068–1069.
Gu JM, Crawley JT, Ferrell G, Zhang F, Li W, Esmon NL, Esmon CT. Disruption of the endothelial cell protein C receptor gene in mice causes placental thrombosis and early embryonic lethality. J Biol Chem 2002; 277:43335–43343.
Biguzzi E, Merati G, Liaw PC, Bucciarelli P, Oganesyan N, Qu D et al. A 23 bp insertion in the endothelial protein C receptor (EPCR) gene impairs EPCR function. Thromb Haemost 2001; 86:945–948.
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Bo Wah Effigies is a humble little store on Fuk Wing Street, Sham Shui Po that specialises in paper offerings for the deceased. These paper crafts are a designated UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage of Hong Kong — and at Bo Wah Effigies, they are given a modern spin.
The shop is currently being run by Au Yeung Ping-chi, who took over the decades-old business from his father after graduation. Ah Chi got the idea to make some trendier paper items to attract more customers. “I made some paper scooters and robotic dogs and hung them out at the front of the shop. That got the media’s attention, and the orders followed.”
In short: Ah Chi has bucked tradition by making paper effigies a fashionable endeavour that has found popularity with the younger generation.
Today, Ah Chi takes tailored orders from customers who have unique demands. He’s made everything from fishing rods to chicken wing soup noodles, and there is no request that’s too difficult to accomplish.
“The more time I get to complete an order, the better,” Ah Chi says. “First, I’ll go online and do some research, then I will do a test run, and then I’ll go ahead to make the real thing.” Since many of his works inevitably end up incinerated, Ah Chi makes sure to take a photo to commemorate each item before they are passed on to the customers.
But not all of his pieces share the same fate. Some of Ah Chi’s projects are considered such works of beauty that they have been exhibited in art galleries around the world, including at The Breeder in Athens, Greece. “These paper crafts are art,” Ah Chi affirms.
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What music are you currently grooving to?
The Journey, the last album by Amsterdam is good. And Bettye Layette's I've Got My Own Hell To Raise is killer. She covers other female composers — Sinéad, Lucinda Williams — and the songs all sound like they were written for her. Also The Zutons, Tinariwen, and Thomas Dybdahi. He's a Norwegian singer, and his One Day You'll Dance For Me, New York City is great — really delicate, almost transparently so.
What, if push comes to shove, is your all time favourite album?
It changes every 15 seconds, but I'll say The Beatles' Revolver because it's such a standby, such a great record. And my wife's new record, of course.
What was the first record you ever bought? And where did you buy it?
The Fame At Last EP by Georgie Fame, in 1965, at Potter's in Richmond. It had "Get On The Right Track," "Point Of No Return" — a good musical education right there.
Which musician, other than yourself, have you ever wanted to be?
I've never wanted to be anyone but me. But people who I admire, who had a defining effect on me Sinatra, Lennon, Gram Parsons, Hank Williams.
What do you sing in the shower?
I sing scales, when my voice is in trouble. I learnt that from Tony Bennett; do it for half an hour and the steam opens things up.
What is your favourite Saturday night record?
I haven't had a weekend for 27 years, it's either all weekend or all work, so I don't know. I remember being into Double Barrel by Dave And Ansel Collins, though, when I was 15 and going to parties.
And your Sunday morning record?
I like old recordings. I love the things Joe Bussard puts out — he's preserving a lot of corners of music that are precious, mountain music, jazz, blues, music that was on 78. I dig that. And Bach, Bill Evans, Henry Purcell, Janácek. Things that are contemplative.
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Apple: "If You Want To Criticize Religion, Write a Book"
Andy Chalk | 15 Jan 2013 18:04
Apple's new guidelines provide an interesting look at what it does and does not want to see on the App Store.
Terms of service, EULAs and the like are typically packed with dense legalese that makes them utterly boring and impenetrable. Apple's new guidelines for app developers, on the other hand, are far more casual and accessible, laying out in clear terms not just what the company will and will not allow, but also why.
"We have lots of kids downloading lots of apps, and parental controls don't work unless the parents set them up (many don't). So know that we're keeping an eye out for the kids," the document says at one point. It also warns that there's not a lot of interest in more fart apps, and that anything appearing to have been hastily thrown together will likely be rejected. "We have lots of serious developers who don't want their quality Apps to be surrounded by amateur hour," it adds.
But it also betrays a certain dismissive attitude toward videogames, reflected in the recent decision to reject Endgame: Syria, a strategy app based on the Syrian civil war. "We view Apps different than books or songs, which we do not curate. If you want to criticize a religion, write a book. If you want to describe sex, write a book or a song, or create a medical app," the guidelines state. "It can get complicated, but we have decided to not allow certain kinds of content in the App Store."
"We will reject Apps for any content or behavior that we believe is over the line. What line, you ask? Well, as a Supreme Court Justice once said, 'I'll know it when I see it.' And we think that you will also know it when you cross it," it continues. "If your app is rejected, we have a Review Board that you can appeal to. If you run to the press and trash us, it never helps."
It's a bit of a disappointing approach, since we all like to think that videogames are capable of handling tough topics at least as well as movies, television or even books, but the sheer volume of apps on the App Store mandates a certain amount of flexibility in the approval process. Even so, Endgame: Syria Lead Designer Tomas Rawlings said that content is what counts, and that "the form of the media should be irrelevant."
"Games, films, apps, comics, music, and books should all be held to the same standard," he told GamesBeat. "To suggest that there is an invisible line that says it's OK to say something in a book but not in a game? That feels wrong to me."
But Edmund McMillen, designer of The Binding of Isaac, said the problem isn't what Apple said so much as how it went about saying it. "The way it is written is obviously bad and upsetting in many ways because on a surface level, most will view them as saying a video game can't express what a song or book can and [that they] shouldn't,"he said. "But I really just think it's a misguided way of saying [not to] submit games that are controversial and might upset people."
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The Traditional Taste
November 5, 2013 /1 Comment/in Fiction /by Fiction Vortex
By Jon Arthur Kitson
The robot didn’t slurp. Koa found that obscene.
No one else in the room seemed to care.
“It’s not mixing air with the coffee,” Koa said. “It won’t get an accurate flavor profile.”
“It doesn’t need air,” a technician — ’Brad’ according to his name tag — answered.
Koa’s eyes rolled. He folded his arms across his chest, squeezed the brass spittoon between his legs and stared down the tasting table at the robot. It sat in his father’s spot.
It’s blank eyes were lit red. Liquid drained into its chest cavity.
No spitting. Obscene.
“Well?” the owner, standing near the door, asked. The company’s palm tree logo, in the form of a gold lapel pin, flashed from his chest in the moist, tropical light streaming through the windows. “How does it compare with Koa’s profile?”
Brad opened a panel on the robot’s head.
“Identical,” he said, reading the display. “All points; mouthfeel, tones, even the slight astringency.”
Everyone in the room clapped, except for Koa, who grimaced, and the owner, who cocked a thick eyebrow.
“So what?” Koa asked over the din. “It’s all chemical analysis.” To his boss: “The other producers have been doing it for decades, Tom.” To the technician: “All you made is a human-shaped chemistry set.”
“No,” Brad said. “Its nothing like that.” He patted the robot’s head. “It doesn’t sample the coffee’s chemical make-up. It processes the tasting experience just like a human brain.” His mouth turned into a cockeyed grin. “Just like your brain.”
Koa’s squat tasting stool threatened to squirt from underneath him as he spun on his boss.
The man didn’t meet Koa’s eyes.
“Give it a regular seat,” Tom said and walked out the door.
Koa’s fist hit the desk. The coffee in Tom’s cup flooded its saucer. Koa dipped a finger in the scalding liquid, flicked it at his boss.
“Dammit, Koa.” Tom brushed coffee off his tie. “Calm down.”
“You lied to me.” Koa’s eyes held steady on Tom’s. “You said all the tests … all the damn wires stuck to my head … were for insurance purposes.”
“They were,” Tom said, not shying away from Koa’s stare. “To ensure Palm Island Coffee is around for another 150 years.” He leaned back in his chair. “Now, if you’re done assaulting me with House Blend, sit down.”
Koa did, but perched on the seat’s edge.
“Good,” Tom said. “I’m sorry I misled you, but I knew this is how you’d react—”
“A robot?” Koa said. “Traditional tasting, Tom, that’s what Palm Island is renowned for. We’re the last ones doing it. What’ll this make us? iCoffee?”
“Yes.” Tom spun the monitor on his desk. “Let me show you something.”
On screen was the bastard child of a ‘50s sci-fi movie poster and a Hawaiian travel brochure. Palm trees and buxom hula girls swayed in front of a perfect blue ocean. In front of them an ideal Polynesian warrior, bronzed and shirtless, sipped coffee from a delicate cup. Next to him, drinking in the same satisfied manner, was the robot. Its red eyes sparkled.
The tag-line beneath the scene: Palm Island Coffee, The Past and the Future in One Cup.
Koa stared.
“It’s Retro,” Tom said. “Our consulting firm says it’s the latest thing.”
Koa’s eyes darted to his boss. “That … is … insane. Our buyers will never accept it.”
Tom turned the screen and sighed.
“Our buyers are a dying breed,” he said. “The foodie trend is over. That’s what we need to accept. No one cares anymore that our company has been family owned for a 150 years, or that your family has been impeccably scrutinized the taste for generations. Gastronomy, food blended with science, is the new movement.” His elbows rested on the desk. “We have to evolve.”
“So, what’s next?” Koa said. “Coffee capsules? Gelatin?” His face wrinkled. “Flavored coffee?”
“Dammit, Koa, we’re still making real coffee. And the robot’s really tasting it.” Tom’s lips curled to a soft smile. “Besides, do you plan on living forever? You’re the last in your line—”
“This is my fault?” Koa’s eyes dug into Tom’s. “Mine and Lani’s?”
Tom’s eyes expanded.
“No,” he said quickly. “God no. I didn’t mean to imply … Really, Koa, that’s not what I meant.”
Koa shrugged it off.
“I have cousins on the mainland,” he said. “Maybe one of them—”
“No,” Tom said. “We’ve got to give the robot a try, for the company. Surely, you can understand that.”
“All I understand,” Koa said, heading for the door, “is, for the first time in fifteen years, I’m glad my father’s dead.” He stopped with his hand on the knob. “And for your sake, Tom, I’m glad yours is too.”
That night, Koa dreamed:
He stood next to a hospital bed. Lani, ebony hair plastered to her forehead, whistling breaths bursting from her pursed lips, laid in it. A doctor stood between her stirruped feet.
Koa’s stomach dropped. He’d had the dream — nightmare — before.
He had lived it.
Lani had been pregnant five times. Only one made it to full term.
He was still-born.
The doctor announced it was time. Koa cringed. Then …
A baby cried.
The doctor handed the swaddled infant to a stunned Koa.
Who turned, passed his wife and presented the child to the man standing behind him.
His father, very much alive, studied the bundle …
Then looked away.
“What?” Koa looked at the child in his arms.
The glowing red eyes of the tasting robot looked back at him.
“No,” Koa said. He looked up; a Polynesian warrior stood before him. His muscled chest heaved. The bleached sharks teeth ringing the Pololu spear in his hand glinted in the birthing-room lights.
Though no pictures existed of the man, Koa knew him instantly: Hiapo Palakiko, his great-plus-more-times-than-he-could-ever-remember grandfather. Family lore claimed Hiapo fought to the death defending Queen Liliʻuokalani, Hawaii’s last monarch, from the pineapple barons and their coup.
Hiapo’s spear rose.
Koa gasped as it split his chest.
The robot was already at the tasting table. Brad buzzed behind it. Koa sat and stared out the window. Mist rose off the field of coffee bushes.
“-Good morning-”
Koa jumped at the metallic greeting.
The robot’s eyes glowed at him. Brad smirked.
“It talks?” Koa addressed the technician.
“Yeah,” Brad answered, smirk growing into a smile. “I just installed the program yesterday afternoon—”
Koa raised an eyebrow.
“It’s a learning program,” Brad said. “It’ll grow and develop over time—” The robot offered another ‘good morning’ to Koa. “—and it’s still in beta. If you don’t respond it’ll probably keep it up all day.”
Koa rolled his eyes, but on the robot’s fifth ‘good morning’, he waved a dismissive hand at the machine.
This did the trick. With the faint sound of gears whirring, the robot’s head rotated back to straight. For a moment, its eyes flickered brightly.
“Aloha, gentleman.”
Palm Island’s Master Roaster entered the room. He slid two trays, each with four full sampling glasses, onto the table.
Wisps of steam clouded the robot’s faceplate.
“We’re tweaking the After Dinner Blend today,” he explained. “Customers are asking for more body. Whenever you’re ready.”
Koa inhaled the rich scents. With his well-worn tasting spoon, he took turns slurping from each glass. The spittoon between his legs rang after every taste.
At the other end of the table, the robot silently sucked up coffee with a short straw.
After half an hour the Master Roaster compared the results.
“Amazing,” he said. “Identical to the subtilist nuance. Both recommend going with blend number three. What do you think of that, Koa?” He looked up. “Koa?”
The door to the tasting room banged shut.
The robot quickly won over the staff. Every afternoon Brad paraded it around the offices and fields. Koa couldn’t escape.
Everywhere he went, it seemed, throngs of people gathered around the machine, laughing and looking amazed at its increasing vocabulary. Koa always tried to duck away unseen, but inevitably, he’d look back to see the robot’s red eyes following him.
They glowed brightly.
After two weeks, it started telling jokes:
“-Why did the coffee taste like mud-”
Koa picked at his nails.
“Why did the coffee taste like mud?” Brad asked. He frowned in Koa’s direction.
The robot’s glowing eyes stayed fixed on Koa. They dimmed.
“-Because it was just ground-”
Brad’s exaggerated laugh bounced around the room. Koa groaned.
The robot turned its head and stared out the window.
“Jokes? Really?” Koa raised an eyebrow at Brad. “Why?”
“I didn’t do it,” Brad answered. “The communication software grows over time. The jokes are a completely new thing.” He tapped the robot’s head. “Its forming a personality.” A sly grin split Brad’s face.
“Well,” the technician said. “It seems to test everything out on you first; saying ‘good morning’, commenting on the weather last week and now the joke.” Brad’s grin grew “I think you’ve got a buddy.”
Koa was about to tell Brad exactly where he could stick his buddy, when the technician opened a panel on the robot’s back. He pulled out a test tube sized vial of thick, green liquid.
“What’s that? The new Halloween Blend?”
Brad laughed, then cut short when he realized Koa wasn’t making a joke.
“Um … no,” he said, holding the vial to the light. “This is what makes the robot work.”
“It’s brain?”
“Not exactly. It’ll still talk and move without it, but as for drinking coffee, it’ll try, but there’d be no point.” He turned the vial to Koa; little swirls formed in the viscous mass. “This is its sense of taste.” His eyes focused on Koa. “And actually, for now, it’s yours.”
It was like looking at his soul.
Everything making him special — that made generations of his family special — distilled into a little tube; translated, somehow, into data for a machine. It looked like shampoo.
And stunk.
Koa’s nose wrinkled at the putrid smell coming from the vial, now that Brad had unscrewed the silver and gold cap.
“Sorry,” Brad said, peering into the vial. “I’m checking for contaminants.”
“Why’s it stink so bad?” Koa held back a gag.
“It’s made from a fungus.” Brad replaced the cap. Thankfully, the smell didn’t linger. “Modified and infused with nano-processors to imitate the way you taste and experience coffee.”
“You said ‘for now’?”
“Eventually,” Brad said, “the robot will develop its own sense of taste.” He clicked the vial back in place and closed the panel. “At least that’s the plan.”
Koa couldn’t believe what he’d just heard.
After two months of ignoring the robot’s greetings and inane puns, two months of inhabiting his office like a hermit to avoid it, he addressed the robot for the first time:
“-Do you ever get tired of tasting coffee-”
Behind the robot, sensing what it couldn’t, Brad turned white.
The taster raised a hand.
“Why the hell would you ask me that?”
“-From speaking with the staff, I’ve learned humans sometimes become bored with their jobs-”
Koa could feel blood rushing to his head.
“-Many speak fondly of retirement-”
Koa’s pulse drummed at his temples.
“-Do you plan on retiring soon-”
The tasting stool clattered into the wall. Koa stared down at the robot.
“You … aluminum … son-of-a-bitch!” Spittle flew into the air. “What? Sharing the tasting table — my family’s table — isn’t enough. Now you want it to yourself?”
“That’s not what it meant,” Brad reached for Koa’s shoulder.
“And you—” Koa batted the technician’s hand away. “Dr. Frankenstein; are you planning to rip out my actual tongue and stuff it in your monster?”
“Koa, it’s only curious, like a child. It’s just trying to learn.”
“Learn this,” Koa said, stalking for the door. He looked at the robot. “I’ll die, tasting spoon wrapped in my hand, before I cede this company’s future to you.”
He jerked open the door. The Master Roaster, balancing two trays, tripped through. Sample glasses shattered on the floor.
“-Koa-” The strength in the robot’s voice stopped the taster. He turned. “-I don’t want you to die-” it said. “-I don’t want you to retire. You are part of a great tradition-”
“Tradition?” Glass crunched under Koa’s feet. “What the hell does a machine know about tradition?”
The robot’s eyes dimmed as they followed the taster out the door.
The following morning Brad cornered Koa outside the tasting room.
“You hurt its feelings.”
“What the hell are you talking about?” Koa said. “Whose feelings?”
Brad’s eyes rolled.
“The robot.”
Koa’s brow wrinkled.
“Machines don’t have feelings.”
“This one does.” Brad slumped against the wall. “At least, it thinks it does.”
“That’s the point of the project: a robot as close to a human taster as possible. Its programming is revolutionary.” His eyes found Koa’s. “And now, because of you, it’s sulking. It hasn’t spoken in almost twenty-four hours.”
That, Koa knew, was unusual. Amongst the staff, the robot had gained a reputation for being chatty.
The taster recommended what he did with a stubborn computer. After all, at its core, that’s all the robot really was.
“Did you try turning it off and back on?”
“It doesn’t work that way,” Brad sighed. “The robot’s personality formed, is still forming, organically. If I reboot it, it starts from scratch.”
“Fine. Start from scratch. Apparently, this personality is a little too sensitive.”
“There’s no time,” Brad said pulling himself off the wall. “Forming a new personality will take months.”
“And the industry convention is in two weeks.”
“Vegas?”
“Yes,” Brad said. His eyes avoided Koa’s. “That’s when we’re revealing it to the world. That’s when the new Palm Island Coffee premieres.”
Koa’s breath caught in his throat. After a few minutes:
“I’m not apologizing to a robot.”
“You don’t have to. Just be … nice.”
Koa didn’t respond. He pushed passed Brad and into the tasting room. The robot sat on its stool — Koa’s father’s stool — staring straight ahead. It didn’t turn when Koa took his place at the table.
“Um …” Koa looked at the machine, hesitated, then said, “Good morning.”
The robot’s head spun. Its eyes ignited.
“-Good Morning, Koa-”
It sounded relieved.
Koa continued being nice. For two weeks, he answered the robot’s questions. Short and curt, but he answered them.
“-How many generations of your family have been tasters-”
“Seven.”
“-All men-”
“-How many sat at the tasting table at once-”
“-How old were you when you started to taste-”
“Nineteen.”
“-Your father-”
“Seventeen.”
“-And his father-”
“Fifteen.”
And countless more.
They were the same questions Koa had asked his father. The same questions he had always expected to answer someday … for his own son.
Then, two days before the convention:
“-Are you upset you never had a child to carry on your line-”
Koa hardly noticed the tasting room door open and the Master Roaster enter. Only when Tom walked in did Koa come back to reality.
Casually, Tom took a spot against the far wall.
“We’ve got a big one today,” the Master Roaster said. “The Holiday Blend. Today’s choice goes into production.”
Koa and the robot tasted. When they were done — Koa laying his spoon on the tray, the robot straightening to its full height — the Roaster reviewed the results.
His eyes grew. He motioned for Brad, who looked at the pages.
“It was bound to happen,” Brad said, after a few minutes. His eyes stayed fixed on the results. “Eventually.”
The Master Roaster looked up, past Koa, at Tom.
“Um, we have a difference of opinion,” he said. “Koa chose blend number two; the robot picked number four.”
“-Excuse me-” the robot said. Everyone eyed it. “-I believe when there is a disagreement, it is traditional to go with the more experienced taster’s choice-” Its eyes lit on Koa. “-Koa, I defer to you-”
“Then it’s settled,” the Master Roaster said. “We go with number two for this year’s Holiday Blend.”
Everyone turned to face Tom.
“Go with number four.”
Silence crushed the room. Koa’s head swam as he watched Tom turn and walk out.
The spot where Hiapo’s dream spear had pierced his chest ached.
Koa ignored the secretary’s protests and pushed through the door. Tom jumped.
“Koa,” he said. “I’m sorry, but—”
“I want to go to the convention.” Koa crossed the office in three steps. He hovered above the desk.
“What?” Tom stuttered. “Of course,” he said, smiling, “you’ve always been welcome. I’ll put you on the panel.”
“No,” Koa said. “As an observer.”
“Anything,” Tom said, still smiling. “Whatever you want. I’ll have Martha book you on the Supersonic and get you a room. No, a suite.”
“Fine,” Koa said. “Whatever.”
Tom’s arms folded across the desk.
“This is great, Koa,” he said. “After today I didn’t think you’d come around.”
Koa grunted.
“Really,” Tom said. “It means a lot to the company — to me — to have you finally on board. You and 150 years of your family are directly responsible for the success of Palm Island. It’s only right you’re present for the unveiling of the company’s next big step.”
Koa said nothing, only turned and headed for the door.
Yeah, he thought, the next step.
Koa and the robot stood alone off stage. The robot’s eyes were dark. Since arriving in Las Vegas, Koa and the robot had both stayed hidden away, the robot to build anticipation for its big reveal, Koa by choice. He’d left his suite only once.
To go to the salon.
On stage, in front of a packed house, a respected industry scientist explained the blind test brewing behind him. Four coffee makers steamed on a table. Three of them contained renowned blends, all produced by Palm Island’s competitors, the fourth brewed Chicory; coffee’s bastard cousin.
Even in the wings, Koa could smell its bitter scent.
Tom and Brad proudly flanked the machines.
Koa pulled a vial from his pocket and unscrewed the cap. Coconuts and vanilla wafted off the green liquid inside, overpowering the chicory.
The vial had been easy to find; Brad had spares all over his disorganized workshop. Finding just the right shampoo, however, was more difficult. The salon’s saleswoman had stared at his bald head the entire time he asked about the colors of the expensive hair products.
Koa replaced the cap.
He opened the robot’s back. The vial inside came out with a click. He held the two vials up.
They were identical.
He moved the one filled with shampoo to the opening …
And hesitated.
He looked at the stage.
With an eyedropper, the scientist added a clear liquid to each cup. Masking solution. He explained how it hid each blend’s chemical make-up. The robot, just like a human, would have to depend on taste alone. The audience sat on the edge of their seats.
Koa realized, for the first time in a long time, the world cared about Palm Island Coffee.
It actually cared.
“-Thank you-”
The vials bobbled in Koa’s hands. He cringed as both hit the floor.
Neither broke.
Quickly, Koa scooped them up.
The robot’s eyes bathed him in red light.
“-Thank you for sharing your gift with me-”
Koa stood, hiding the vials against his side.
“What gift?”
“-Your sense of taste. Without it, I’m only a machine. With it, I’m part of so much more-”
“-Your family-”
Koa’s chest tightened. The nightmare flashed behind his eyes.
“-Thank you for making me your heir-”
In his head, Koa saw his father turning away.
“We are not family,” Koa growled. “And that thing that makes you special—” he spun the robot, jammed a vial in place, closed the panel and spun it back to face him, “—you stole it.”
“-Koa, I’m sorry-”
“You are not my heir, my family’s heir. You’re our assassin.”
“-Please-” the robot’s eyes dimmed. “-Tell me what to do. Tell me how to carry on the tradition-”
“You can’t,” Koa said. His finger clanked hollowly against the robot’s chest. “A machine doesn’t know anything about tradition.”
On stage, Tom introduced the robot.
“-Maybe I can learn-”
And it stepped into the bright lights and applause.
Breath held, Koa watched the robot taste the blends. The audience oohed as it described each; full, smoky, earthy, malty.
They waited silently for the robot to declare its favorite brew …
“-Number four-”
Koa heard the boos as he exited the hall. He could still smell the coconut shampoo on his fingers.
And the aroma of chicory from cup number four.
Koa paused before sitting; the robot, unseen in the week since the convention, lay crumpled in the corner of Tom’s office.
It’s eyes were dark.
“Koa,” Tom said. “I’ve sold the company.”
“The robot,” he said, shooting daggers at the inert machine. “The goddamn robot. You were right; it was a bad idea.”
“Fine,” Koa said, “but selling the company? Why?”
Tom stood and paced.
“We’re ruined. Broke.” His fist slammed the desk. “I sank every asset, the company’s and mine, into that … that … red herring.”
“There’s nothing left?”
“Nothing,” he said. “Not that there was much before. We were already almost bankrupt.”
“What? I didn’t know—”
“Only Brad knew,” Tom said. “The robot wasn’t just an experiment. It was a Hail-Mary pass.”
“Did it know?”
“With the sensitive personality it developed?” Tom’s forehead wrinkled “No. Brad felt if it knew the fate of the company rested on its shoulders, it’d shut itself down.” Tom’s eyes darted to the robot. “As far as it knew, it was just an alternative to human tasters. A continuation, really, of your family’s work.” His eyes focused on Koa. “Brad insisted it was damn proud of it, too.”
Koa felt light headed.
“The buyers,” Koa managed, “they’re keeping the staff right? You explained half the island works here—”
“They’re not coffee people.” Tom sat. “It’s a hotel chain. They’re bulldozing the fields next month.”
This time Koa stood.
“What? None of the big companies wanted us? The prestige of the Palm Island name alone—”
“What prestige?” Tom stared at the robot. Instead of looking venomous, his eyes were tired. “In one night 150 years of prestige became a joke. A chicory flavored joke.” His face fell on Koa. “I’m sorry, but the tradition of Palm Island Coffee ends with you.”
Koa looked out the tasting room window. A knot of workers stood at the side of the field.
Word had already spread.
The vial he’d brought from Las Vegas turned in his hands. Little whirlpools spun through the liquid inside.
Tradition.
The vial exploded against the wall.
The smell of coconuts and vanilla filled the room.
Slowly, he stood. He ran a finger through the dripping, green mess. It came away slick.
The wrong vial.
He fell onto his father’s empty stool.
The robot’s stool.
The last of the tasters watched the coffee bushes silently sway in the fields. The berries glowed bright red in the island sun.
Jon Kitson’s stories have appeared in Mad Scientist Journal, The Flashing Type 1 & 2 (anthologies of freeflashfiction.com), and at Dailylove.net. His work ranges from Sci-Fi and the Paranormal, all the way to romance (sometimes there’s a story you’ve just got to tell). You can find out more about Jon at jonarthurkitson.wordpress.com.
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Adam David and Rob Cham on the RISE
Adam David (Abangan: The Best Philippine Komiks 2014, Ang Huling El Bimbo) and Rob Cham (Abangan: The Best Philippine Komiks 2014, Sad Comics For Dirty Lovers, Light) worked together to bring us a comic that strays from what is usually out there.
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Rise, which can be read from Highchair, is a silent comic that tells the story of the tenants of a condominium floor. Each room has its own story as well as the corridors that connect them. Though the people are separated by the building’s walls, each of their actions has some effect to the other tenants. Still it’s interesting to see how each story and the tenants interact with each other.
One of the highlights of Rise is that even if it just focuses on one floor, there are a lot of things that is going on. Re-reading a page is a must to follow each tenant’s story and how they affect each other. Some are light-hearted and some are just dead serious. One is even adult rated. Instead of words, emoticons were used as a substitute for dialogue. The art looks like it should be a poster hanging in your room.
Flipgeeks managed to ask the two of them about their latest collaboration and Adam willingly explained how the concept of Rise started.
“Like with a lot of things I do, RISE represents a convergence of some of my ongoing preoccupations: 1) contemporary urban living, 2) vignettes or the Pinoy short-prose form called “dagli,” 3) to write a book set inside a building, 4) to play with the form and process of the comic book page, with how we read it, how our eyes move around the panels, how creators write and draw for it, what else can be done with the comic book page that can only be done in the comic book page, and 5) I wanted to work on a book with Rob, doing something that the two of us have yet to do.”
His answer sparked our curiosity so we asked him why Rob Cham.
Adam then told us why . “I’ve always loved his room interiors pieces, most famously the posters he did for the movie ANG NAWAWALA. He has sufficient command of the clutter and mundanity of urban life and make it look more interesting and more dynamic than it really is, which is what the project needs. He’s the Jack Kirby of condo living, in other words.”
When asked why they chose Highchair to publish their work online, Adam answered “Ah, I’m a member of High Chair. We have an ongoing feature in the journal this year, publishing our works in progress. RISE is one of my projects that not a lot of people have seen, yet, and I felt it was time we finally showed it to people. Also, publishing it as a work in progress means making a promise to continue and finish the whole book soon.” He also let it slip that Rise will have a total of 36 pages, so we can expect more stories in the future.
Both of them hope that they would be able to print their story as a book once it is completed. Seeing how his silent comic Light was a thing of beauty, Rise would also probably be a hit.
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Rob told us that the first part was supposed to be one off but he liked what they talked about so once Adam has the time to make more scripts for the other parts, then maybe they could make the book come to life.
Since Rise is different from other comics, we asked Rob how to read it in the best possible way.
“I mean I would think it works better in print since it’s less loading times and well, you’d be able to read it a lot faster that way plus flip back and forth to see how everything pieces together but I don’t think there’s any right way. It’s up to the reader to sort of either take it all in at once, follow a particular character/apartment but everything kind of links and I tried and sneaked in some smaller easter eggs but that’s sort of what I liked from how Adam structured it? It demands some rereads. It has small stories here and there. It’s something I haven’t really seen in comics so I definitely loved working on it.”
Rise can be read HERE.
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Porous Texas Fence Foreshadow’s Trump’s Wall Problems
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Mud from people climbing over a border fence in Brownsville, Texas, U.S. is seen in Brownsville, Texas, U.S. on November 17, 2016. REUTERS/Jon Herskovitz
By Jon Herskovitz
BROWNSVILLE, Texas (Reuters) – The rose-coloured border security fence starts in a dusty field on the Loop family farm in South Texas – about 15 miles inland from the Gulf of Mexico and a mile north of the southern U.S. border.
From there, near Brownsville, it stretches about 60 miles west, but with plenty of gaps to drive or walk through. Where it exists, the fence doesn’t always stop illegal immigrants.
“It takes them about a minute and a half to climb the wall,” said farmer Ray Loop, noting the muddy footprints on several sections of the fence crossing his property.
The porous South Texas border fence, authorized in 2006, underscores how topography, treaty obligations, legal fights and high costs could frustrate efforts to stretch an “impenetrable” wall over the 2,000-mile border – the signature campaign promise of U.S. President-elect Donald Trump.
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The South Texas barrier is “more holes than it is fence,” said Denise Gilman, a law professor and director of the Immigration Clinic at the University of Texas at Austin.
The gaps reflect local political opposition, land rights battles and strategic decisions about where a fence would be most cost-effective, according to internal U.S. government emails obtained by Gilman through a court order and viewed by Reuters.
Trump transition team spokesman Jason Miller declined to comment on the challenges of border wall construction, saying the president-elect would have “plenty of time to discuss policy specifics” after he takes office in January.
In an interview with CBS’ “60 minutes” last month, Trump said for the first time that he would accept fencing in some areas of the border.
“But some areas, a wall is more appropriate,” Trump said. “I’m very good at this. It’s called construction. There could be some fencing.”
Loop, 51, is a Trump supporter who supports stricter immigration controls, but he has little faith in fences or walls.
“That is not going to work,” Loop said from his pickup last month as he passed border patrol cars on his property. “There are places where it makes sense logistically, but all the way from Texas to California? No.”
The Rio Grande Valley in South Texas has become a focal point for immigration enforcement because it has been a main artery for crossing.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection said in a statement that fencing is part of an integrated strategy that includes agents on the ground, motion sensors, cameras and airborne monitoring.
The Washington-based Center for Immigration Studies, which supports strong border security, said Trump should look beyond his proposed wall for a comprehensive policy.
“Fencing can be very effective in making life difficult for those attempting to clandestinely cross our southern border, but it is not a one-stop measure,” said Jon Feere, legal policy analyst for the centre.
A gate in the U.S. border fence with Mexico is seen in this photo taken at the Loop family farm in Brownsville, Texas, U.S. on November 17, 2016. REUTERS/Jon Herskovitz
The Secure Fence Act of 2006, signed by Republican President George W. Bush, underestimated the cost of building a planned 670 miles of fencing at various places between California and Texas.
By the time Democratic President Barack Obama declared construction essentially complete in 2011, the allocated $2.4 billion had paid for fencing over only about half that distance, according to a U.S. Government Accounting Office report. Obama voted for the border fence construction when he was a U.S. Senator, as did Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.
In South Texas, original plans for two layers of reinforced fencing over about 200 miles between Laredo and Brownsville were scaled down to a gap-toothed, single-layer barrier of about a third that length.
Border terrain caused a host of land rights issues that added cost and time to the construction. About 1,200 miles of the U.S.-Mexico border are in Texas, along the meandering Rio Grande river, which makes it impossible to build a border wall on the actual border.
The International Boundary and Water Commission, set up between the two countries in 1889, prevents any disruption to the flow of the Rio Grande, effectively requiring any wall to be built on levees in flood plains.
That pushed the South Texas fence up to two miles north into U.S. territory – putting property on the Mexico-facing side of in into a kind of no man’s land, and requiring the government to compensate owners for lost land value.
LEGAL SCRAPS
Ernest Villarreal points to where the U.S. border fence passes through the backyard of his family’s home in Brownsville, Texas, U.S. on November 18, 2016. REUTERS/Jon Herskovitz
Loop’s home, and almost all of his farm, are in U.S. territory but on the Mexico-facing side of the fence. He settled the U.S. government’s eminent domain case on terms that were not disclosed.
Another eminent domain case filed by the U.S. government stretched out for seven years and 140 court filings, as Eloisa Tamez fought attempts to put a few acres of family land – awarded in a grant from the King of Spain in 1767 – on the Mexico-facing side of the wall. The government settled for an undisclosed sum and agreed to construct several access points in the fence on the property.
Another telling example of economic loss: The Fort Brown Memorial Golf Course in Brownsville, also behind the wall, closed in 2015 after losing business from customers who mistakenly believed they had to leave the U.S. to play a round.
Trump would have little trouble obtaining land through eminent domain to build a wall for national security purposes, legal experts said. But land owners may now have stronger claims for higher compensation because previous rounds of construction have established concrete examples of lost property value.
Some property rights and compensation cases filed in the Bush years now may carry over into Trump’s term, legal experts said. Trump’s wall, if constructed, could bring a flood of new court challenges, they said.
“The court disputes are going to delay any building for months and years,” said Efren Olivares, regional legal director with the South Texas office of the nonprofit Texas Civil Rights Project, which has represented landowners in border fence disputes.
Local political and economic concerns also pose obstacles. One of the large gaps in the fence is just west of Brownsville, near an affluent area where residents successfully fought off construction.
The government avoided areas with higher land values, according to the internal emails from U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
“They will not build any fence in any area (urban) where real estate costs are too high,” wrote Jeffrey Self, a Customs and Border Protection divisional bureau chief, in a situational report in March 2007.
POWER TO THE CARTELS
Across the southwest border, apprehensions have shot up in recent months as Trump made border security a central issue in the campaign. In the year through September, U.S. authorities have apprehended 408,870 immigrants trying to cross, a jump of 23 percent from a year ago, according to Customs and Border Protection data.
In McCallen, about 55 miles west of Brownsville, Mayor Jim Darling said human traffickers are drumming up business by telling people to cross before the Trump wall goes up.
“Now we have a bigger immigration problem,” said Darling, who holds a nonpartisan office but endorsed Republican Texas Governor Greg Abbott in his 2014 campaign.
If the current fencing in south Texas is extended to the west, it would likely end up in Rio Grande City, where Mayor Joel Villarreal, a political independent, sees it as a waste of government money and a potential windfall for Mexican criminal cartels trafficking immigrants.
“They will have the means to take people across,” he said in an interview, “and people will have to pay their cut to those cartels.”
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(Reporting by Jon Herskovitz; Additional reporting by Jim Forsyth in San Antonio; Editing by Brian Thevenot)
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Primary Education in Swaziland begins at the age six and under normal progression it is a seven years programme that ends with external examination [Swaziland Primary Certificate-SPC] in Grade seven. This is a national assessment and is compulsory for every child to sit for it in order to qualify to enroll for a secondary school education. All school going age children should access primary education with or without barriers. However, access to formal education is handicapped by several barriers such as poverty, hunger, and poor progression of children in the system. The Ministry has noted a high repetition and dropout rate in the school system with low enrolments because children could not afford to pay for their school fees and buy learning materials while their homes have no food to feed them before and after school. The situation is mainly eroding away the Ministry’s Mission statement which demanded for the ‘provision of relevant, quality and affordable education and training opportunities for the entire populace of the kingdom of Swaziland in order to develop all positive aspects of life for self reliance, social and economic development and global competitiveness’. The Ministry’s core mandate is the provision and attainment of quality, inclusive and affordable education opportunities for all pupils of school going age including the out of school children.
In response to the above mandate the Ministry has implemented Free Primary Education {FPE} in grade 1 and 2 in 2010 and will roll out the programme to Grade 3 in 2011 and a grade per year until the whole primary grades receive FPE by 2015.
Regional and International Commitments on Free Primary Education
In ensuring that Swaziland’s FPE Programme and activities are in line with Regional and International agreements, the Ministry of Education and Training is guided by the following:
The UN Convention on the Rights of the child.
The UN Convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities [2006].
Jomtein Declaration on Education For All [1990].
The Dakar Commitment [2000].
The six EFA Goals that country committed themselves to achieve by 2015 [goal 2].
Millennium Development Goals {MDGs} which compels Swaziland to achieve universal access to Primary school Education by 2015. This is viewed as a vehicle towards Poverty Reduction
The SADC PROTOCOL ON EDUCATION AND TRAINING that state clearly those countries should provide at least nine years of Free and Compulsory Education.
Swaziland is also guided by the Following National Policies and Legal Framework:
The National Constitution which clearly states the Provision of Free Primary Education, starting with the first grade- 3 years after the adoption of the Constitution should be implemented {Section 29 [6]}. Free Primary Education was implemented four years later in 2010 in Grade 1 and 2 to cover up the lost year.
Free Primary Education gazette is also in place.
Free Primary Education Regulations document is in process of finalization.
The National Development Strategy (NDS): talks about Basic Education as a means towards Economic Empowerment and Human Development
Poverty Reduction Strategy and Action Program me (PRSAP): says the Provision of Basic Education is viewed as a means of overcoming poverty and social exclusion similarly, the Education and Training Sector Study identified gaps in the entire Education System which compelled Government through the Ministry of Education and Training to remove the barriers and increase access to primary education for all school- going age children to the extent possible by implementing Free Primary Education in Public schools grade 1 and 2 as per the National Constitution –section 26[6] of 2005. However the Ministry had long attempted to remove the barriers by implementing the following initiatives.
INCREASING ACCESS IN BASIC EDUCATION
Provision of Bursary Scheme for Orphans and Vulnerable Children (OVC) in 2003 after the Ministry has noted that poverty, hunger and severe draught particularly in the lowveld that indicated a very high dropout of children from schools leaving very few pupils[decrease ]in school enrolments]. Free Text books and workbooks for all Primary school children was implemented since 2003. These included brailled text books for the visually impaired after the Ministry noted that providing OVC bursary without learning materials did not have a positive impact. Pupils could not afford to buy Exercise books and stationery hence would drop out of school. Free Exercise books and Stationery including brailled for visually impaired materials for all children in public primary school were provided since 2006. The European Union {EU} assisted Government by introducing Capitation Grant Scheme for Primary schools. The objective was increase access and retention of OVC in schools and to improve the quality of Education. {E100.00 for each pupil plus E225.00 per OVC while able parents paid the full amount of school fees}. The school fund\income became adequate for the improvement of the learning facilities. The provision of the above mentioned items resulted in a considerable increase in enrolments from 203 000 to 245 000 [approx].
THE IMPLEMENTATION OF FREE PRIMARY EDUCATION-2010
Free Primary Education has been viewed as a consolidated program me aimed at creating a conducive environment characterized by minimum barriers to access quality Primary education. The objective of FPE is to address the following barriers: distance from school [physical], school fees [financial], socio- cultural, eradicate illiteracy, alleviate poverty, eliminate all forms of disparities and inequalities, and provide basic skills and knowledge.
ELEMENTS THAT CONSTITUTES FREE PRIMARY EDUCATION {FPE}
The objectives can not be achieved without the following elements which constitute Free Primary Education:-
Provision of relevantly qualified teachers
Provision of conducive Infrastructures like classrooms and special teaching rooms, teachers houses.
Provision of Teaching and learning materials like Textbooks, workbooks, Exercise books and Stationery.
School grants [school fees] to cover school operational costs such as school fees, school feeding and run administrative duties.
FREE PRIMARY EDUCATION REGULATORY FRAME WORK [Road Map]
The Ministry of Education and Training established a bill [gazette] that would be a road Map for the implementation of FPE. A Gazette that provides conditions on how and when non Swazi children can be admitted and who determines the fees they should pay.
The Ministry has put in place some strategies towards attaining Free Primary and these are:
Extending Primary school entry age from 6 to 9years for grade one; 7 to 11 for grade two. This has been done to accommodate all out of school children who were above six but not above 11 years old. Sebenta Non- Formal Upper Primary Education {NUPE} has been expanded for children above ten years who seek admission into Grade one. Sebenta is using existing primary school facilities for the NUPE classes while rural Education Centres {RECs} will also be used as Satellites for the program me. In places where the influx will be very high like in urban\ peri-urban schools the shift system will used.
Some schools in urban and peri-urban areas have been expanded funded by the European Union (EU) Additional classrooms have constructed through Micro Project and SET Project. 78 Additional Mobile classrooms were allocated and delivered to schools with influx children such Kwaluseni Primary, Phocweni. However some schools were not accessible and had to be allocated permanent structures.
Mobile Teachers Houses
One Hundred and Ninety mobile teachers houses were allocated and distributed to very needy schools. However some were not accessible hence their houses had to be re-allocated to other schools.
Teaching and Learning materials
Free Stationery and Exercise books were distributed to schools in January 2010 before schools while a ten [10%] buffer stock was reserved for supplementary orders. Additional Teachers for FPE. Additional 220 Teachers Posts for FPE were provided by Government. Teachers were posted to schools immediately after identifying the schools. Teachers were also re-diploid from schools with low enrolment to schools with high enrollment.
PGCE and Humanities graduates have been deployed at primary school level in addition to contract teachers who under IDE training.
COLLEGES INTAKE
Expansion of in-take at Nazarene, Ngwane colleges and re-introduced PTD at William Pitcher College.
MANAGEMENT OF THE FPE IN GENERAL
Head teachers are responsible for the day to day management of the entire School and were trained by INSET. The school committee constitution being reviewed to strengthen the roll of the school committees.The Ministry will soon be introducing the positions for Deputy Regional Education Officers to strengthen education management at Regional level. A comprehensive Audit Inspection is being carried out by the newly established Audit Department.
SCHOOL LEVEL OPERATION OF FPE
All teaching and learning materials are supplied before schools open for the New Year.Schools [staff\head and committee] to develop a detailed School Development Plan {SDP} on expenditure, income\budget and projected projects. Ministry to pay per capita grants direct to school account [Electronic Disbursement]. Schools to adhere to their SDP and report expenditure in accordance to budget plan. Schools to submit enrolments in the first week of opening.
SCHOOL INSPECTION
Government has increased the number of regional inspectorate by 13. Ministry awaiting for 9 more new inspectors to be appointed by the appointing Commission. There will be Deputy Regional Education Officer in all four regions to assist the Regional Education officer.
School Inspection is mainly for Monitoring Purposes as they check teaching and learning impact. Check school enrolments, payments and usage of funds as well as support schools through school Administration.
Free Primary Education Unit within the MOET
To compile & interpreted data in collaboration with EMIS to determine school needs.
Carry out Procurement of teaching and learning materials to schools.
Disbursement of teaching and learning materials to schools.
The unit will also calculate and disburse per capita grants to schools on time.
Monitor the usage in collaboration with inspectorate.
To evaluate the implementation of FPE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND TRAINING POLICIES TO SUPPORT FREE PRIMARY EDUCATION [FPE]
Free Primary Education policy\gazette to guide the operations of FPE at school level which also include admissions.
Assessment Framework Policy to provide guidance on assessment & progression\ Repetition of children should be in place.
Procurement and Management of Text books and Exercise at school level should be in place. The School Feeding policy to guide schools and pother supporting agencies on school feeding.
THE ROLE OF PARENTS AND COMMUNITIES IN FREE PRIMARY EDUCATION [FPE]
Government demands parents and communities to play an active role in the provision of schools infrastructure for their children. Parents through the school committee are involved in Planning, budgeting and school expenditure.
Parents through the school committee approve the schools financial report at the end of the year. Parents are expected to provide school uniform for their children. This will harmonize the children s’ attire.
Parents and communities should monitor school daily attendance of their children.
SHORTAGE OF TRANSPORT IN REO.
LACK OF COMPUTERS FOR WRITING REPORTS.
SHORTAGE OF OFFICES IN REGIONAL EDUCATION OFFICES.
SHORTAGE OF TEACHERS HOUSES.
SHORTAGE OF INSPECTORS HOUSES.
SHORTAGE OF FURNITURE IN GENERAL.
MASS MOVEMENT OF PUPILS FROM ONE SCHOOL TO ANOTHER.
DELAY IN THE PAYMENT OF GRANT
IMPLEMENTATION FREE PRIMARY EDUCATION ROLL OUT PLAN IN GRADE THREE [3] FOR 2011
The Ministry of Education and Training has successfully implemented Free Primary Education in all Grade 1 and 2 public schools with effect from January 2010. The introduction of Free Primary Education will assume a staggered approach rolling it out to grade 3 in 2011, grade 4 in 2012 and so on in subsequent years until the whole primary school cycle is covered in year 2015.
One of the major objectives of Free Primary Education is to remove barriers and increase access to primary school education for all school –going age children to the extent possible. Indeed this objective has been achieved as the enrolments increased from 66 000 in 2009 to 77,923 in 2010 which is a 15% increase for both grade 1 and 2. Grade 1 enrolments increased from 31,245 [2009] to 41, 378 [2010] an increase of 32.4% while in grade 2 the increase was from 34,755 to 36,545 [5.2%]. However, not all the out of schools going age children yielded to the invitation to come to school hence the Ministry still expect these children to register and enroll for Grade 1 in 2011.
SCHOOL GRANT
The Government of Swaziland will provide all children the grant at E580.00 per child from Grade one to Grade 3 to cover Operational expenses, school feeding, administrative duties [utilities] and Wages for support staff.
PROVISION OF CLASSROOMS:-
The Ministry has been allocated a budget for 68 classrooms only instead of 78 units as provided in 2010.
Teachers Houses.
The Ministry of Education is currently constructing 35 teachers houses in addition to the 190 mobile classrooms delivered to primary schools in 2010
Government has provided a budget for sixty eight classrooms to accommodate progressing children from grade 2. These classrooms are less than the number of mobile classrooms [78] distributed to schools in 2010. The Ministry is suppose to provide at least 78 classrooms for a smooth progressing of pupils accommodated in the mobile classrooms distributed to schools apart from the additional 167 classrooms required. The 68 classrooms have been distributed to schools that were not accessible for the mobile classrooms like Umkhondo Primary.
PROVISION OF SCHOOL FURNITURE
The Ministry has been allocated a budget of E3.5M for school furniture in readiness for the rollout of FPE in grade 3 in 2011. While an additional furniture worth E1M will be allocated and distributed to grades: 4 to 7. The Free Primary Education furniture will be distributed to schools during January, 2011.
CRISIS: Shortage of school furniture has been crisis in all primary schools.
[i] Stationery and Exercise Books.
The Ministry Of Education and Training has secured E23M for the procurement of Exercise books and stationery packs to Primary schools for the year 2011 January. Seven companies have been awarded tenders to supply the stationery and seven companies specializing in printing have been awarded tenders to print, package exercise books and deliver stationery packs to all primary schools before the schools re-opens in 2011, January.
[ii] Text Books:
The provision of Exercise books through Macmillan Publishing Company will be distributed to all public primary schools in December\ January 2011. A buffer stock of 10% has been secured to cater for grade 1 and three pupils’ influx in 2011.
ADDITIONAL TEACHERS FOR FPE IN GRADE 3.
220 additional teachers will be needed for the FPE roll out in Grade 3 in 2011. The assumption is that these teachers will cater for all the additional classes in Grade 1 to 3.
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Big Rigs – How Can Roadways Cause Problems
Many factors contribute to accidents with big rigs. Driver error accounts for many of these incidents; however, there are other causes, according to truck accident attorneys, including road conditions and obstructions. The design of the road can affect driving characteristics of a loaded truck and putting drivers and other vehicles in dangerous situations. These factors must be considered when reviewing an accident to learn how to avoid a similar incident in the future.
Road Condition and Design
Some might think that all roads can handle heavy trucks. However, according to experienced attorneys who handle truck accidents cases, that belief is a common misunderstanding. Besides maneuverability, there are other concerns for big trucks when they must drive on less than ideal roads.
Open highways are the safest place for big trucks, according to truck accident attorneys. When forced to drive on narrower streets in residential areas or winding rural roads, the risk of an accident increases. Larger commercial vehicles are prohibited from traveling on some roads for this very reason; however, there is always a threat for problems on any road. Factors such as weather, traffic, lack of road maintenance, and unclear signage can increase the risk of accidents, all of which vary by location.
The statistics are sobering when considering roadway condition and design. On both highways and smaller streets, roadway conditions in 2009 were a contributing factor in up to 22,000 of the nation’s traffic-related fatalities and over one third of all accident-related injuries.1 These statistics make road construction and condition the most significant factors in overall traffic accidents.2 Large commercial vehicles are more difficult to control on bad surfaces and poorly maintained roads, making them more likely to be involved in an accident when operating under such conditions. Attorneys who handle truck accidents report that slick surfaces, soft or broken shoulders, lack of guardrails, tight curves, and other similar design or weather-related issues contribute to accidents with 18-wheelers.
The Cost of Bad Roadway Conditions
The cost in 2009 for property damage and personal injuries due to roadway-related accidents was $217 billion, a staggering $100 billion more than alcohol-related accidents.3 This cost was shared by private and public businesses that together paid $22 billion4 for accidents involving their employees. This price tag for roadway-related accidents due to deficient streets and highways cannot continue to be overlooked according to truck accident attorneys.
A good first step to improve these statistics would be to make sure that truck drivers are aware of at-risk roads and highways. Truck accident attorneys advise that there is more to do than just this one step, because poor road conditions are not always known ahead of time. Drivers must also understand that just being in some locations increases the possibility of an accident, such as in any area where large vehicles have maneuverability problems.
With the help of truck accident attorneys who are aware of the factors which cause accidents with big rigs, it may be possible to identify when poor roadway conditions were the true cause of trucking accidents – and determine ways to prevent such accidents in the future.
1, 2, 3, 4 The Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation: On A Crash Course: The Dangers and Health Costs of Deficient Roadways. (2009)
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Many thanks to Michael Feldstein of the e-Literate Blog for the insightful post on IMS progress entitled The IMS Is More Important Than You Think It Is.
Michael and Phil Hill have been so successful with the e-Literate Blog because of their intimate understanding of the education technology sector. The funny thing about the title of this recent blog post about IMS is that even I, as the guy sort of in charge over here at IMS, often have the same sentiment – namely that IMS may be more important than even I think it is!
To explain I will highlight a few statements from Michael’s writing and elaborate a bit – all under the category of sort of a teachable moment. The key foundation here is to understand that when we reorganized IMS beginning eight years ago we took a pretty radical approach (while trying not to appear radical) of turning a technical standards organization upside down. So, rather than focusing on standards for educational technology as the most important thing we took to heart that standards are only a means to an end. That end is what we termed “Learning Impact” which is the impact that technology can have on transforming/improving education and learning. If that seems a bit ethereal to you, it’s not: The event Michael wrote his impressions from is our annual meeting called the Learning Impact Leadership Institute. This is NOT a meeting of standards geeks (even though we all have a bit, or maybe a lot, of that in us) but rather a meeting of those wishing to lead educational transformation.
Michael: “I have long argued that the development of technical interoperability standards for education are absolutely critical for enabling innovation and personalized learning environments. Note that I usually avoid those sorts of buzzwords—”innovation” and “personalized learning”—so when I use them here, I really mean them.”
Rob’s elaboration: Michael gets that IMS is all about innovation, but lot’s of folks misunderstand what goes on in a standards organization like IMS. Some standards are about picking one of several options of a technology already developed. My favorite example is picking a gauge to standardize railroad tracks. However, IMS standards are for technology that is new. These type of standards are all about enabling distribution of innovative practices and technologies. Thus, some will fail but others will enable wider innovation. Working in IMS is as much or more about defining the innovation and enabling it as it is about locking down a potential standard.
Michael: “But arriving at those standards often feels . . . painful, frustratingly slow, and often lacking a feeling of accomplishment. It’s easy to give up on the process. Having recently returned from the IMS Learning Impact Leadership Institute, I must say that the feeling was different this time.”
Rob’s elaboration: We’ve figured out a few things over the years that have helped improve the process of developing standards. First we try to separate the participants into groups that emphasize different things. Some folks like to work on developing specifications. Most, however, prefer to implement. Others, especially institutional types, like to work on reviewing to understand and ensure the benefits and resulting policies. The trick is to create some separate spaces and bring them together at the appropriate times. IMS is far from perfect at orchestrating all of this – but we are constantly working at it. When it all comes together and you have the institutions and suppliers all working together toward the same end it is truly a beautiful thing. I think probably Michael sensed some of that at the meeting.
Michael: “The first indicator that things are different at the IMS these days is the health of the community. Membership has quadrupled. Interestingly, there was also a very strong K12 contingent at the meeting this year, which is new. This trend is accelerating. According to Rob, the IMS has averaged adding about 20 new members a year for the last eight years but has added 25 so far in 2014. Implementations of IMS standards is also way up.”
Rob’s elaboration: To us IMS is an organization that enables the education sector to collaborate in the leadership of educational and learning technology. Seems like a strange thing to say, but as I pointed out in a 2007 EDUCAUSE Review article (see Innovation, Adoption and Learning Impact: Creating the Future of IT), the education segment does not invest much R&D compared to other segments and without collaboration every institution (all very small businesses – even the largest) spend most of the time and effort they do invest in reinventing what their colleagues at other institutions are doing. This is still a lesson that we are all learning. But, our approach to IMS has been to lay this out to the sector and basically say, “Hey, we can give you a platform for collaboration, but it’s up to you to fund it and make it succeed.” If you’re not supportive it will fail, if you are it will succeed. So far, IMS has grown from a very small standards activity to being on par with the largest and most stable in the world including horizontal and vertical standards organizations.
Michael: “The IMS is just knocking the cover off the ball in terms of its current and near-term prospective impact. This is not your father’s standards body. But I think the IMS is still just warming up.”
Rob’s elaboration: One does get the sense that despite very strong growth the last eight years that IMS may be accelerating. My personal view is that there is an enormous opportunity for institutions and suppliers in the segment to shape the future right now as digital support for learning and education is accelerating. The concept that is the foundation of IMS, namely that true cross-platform plug and play apps, content and data in support of greater personalization, more distinctive educational programs and more effective educational programs, is a game changer. And, this is truly a charge that educational institutions can and should lead. After all, who should be inventing the future of education? And, I also expect that much of this IMS work is going to make its way into more horizontal application across other industries (not education only) and the general web.
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Newsletter > February 2015
Infant 27/2/15
Dear parents
I hope by now that you have all received the Ofsted inspection report either by electronic means or by a paper copy. It is now uploaded to the website and will be published by Ofsted early next week. I hope that you have enjoyed reading it – we certainly did! Although we missed ‘outstanding’ overall by a ‘whisker’, we are well satisfied with the outcome and believe that we are now on a trajectory which should result in ‘outstanding’ in all areas by the next inspection.
It was gratifying to be inspected by an efficient, competent team who were genuinely interested in the school and wanted to engage in reflective discussion with children, governors, parents and staff. As a result of this they grasped what the school was all about and recognised its strengths.
The section about how to become outstanding highlights two areas. The first was that a small proportion of teaching observed was not judged to be outstanding, but was judged to be good. In the second point all children were judged to be making progress but a small proportion of that was judged not to be rapid. This was thought to be due to children not always having enough time to follow up on feedback and marking. We will work really hard on these two areas.
I was so pleased that the inspectors used such positive language and included so many aspects of the school. It was the best report, in terms of description of the school, that we have ever received. From values to respect and from sport to ‘first name’ policy – all these and many more were commended.
I am genuinely humbled to be working with such a fine group of people who have made this great result a reality. Everyone from the children to the governors have played a great part. I would particularly like to acknowledge the staff and the senior governors who from the day after the last inspection worked tirelessly to achieve this result. I would also like to thank colleagues at South Farnham School and Howard of Effingham who we asked to work alongside us on the journey. The local Diocese and Surrey County Council also gave support and encouragement and at no point lost faith and trust in us.
So what happens now? At both Pewley and Holy Trinity we continue to strive for excellence and the provision of a first class educational experience for everyone. We are about to have a ‘blitz’ on handwriting and a full review of our teaching of English from year R – 6. I also hope that we will be able to teach slowly and deeply so that children are thoroughly educated and not just how to pass tests. There are, as always at HTPD, exciting times ahead.
With best wishes, Richard
World Book Day, Thursday 5 March
On Thursday the children will be bringing home a £1 book token which can be used in any of the town book shops.
Red Nose Day, Friday 13 March
Red Noses will be available from the school office from Monday 2 March, £1 each. On the day itself, Friday 13th, the children are invited to make their face ‘funny for money’. If you are stuck for ideas have a look at the website: www.rednoseday.com. More details about Red Nose Day activities will follow in next week’s newsletter.
Fluffy Friday, Friday 20 March
Letters with activity choices for Fluffy Friday went out yesterday. Please return your completed form by Friday 6 March.
Nicola Bridal
You will all be very interested to hear that Nicola Bridal will be returning to the school on Thursday 19 March. She will be working two days a week spending most of her time in Oak Class but also picking up some of her whole school responsibilities. She is especially looking forward to catching up with the children and will be keen to get to know our new Reception families as well.
You will no doubt have seen the new road surface on Semaphore Road and we would just like to take this opportunity to remind you to park respectfully when you drop off and pick up children from school. There are plenty of parking bays slightly further away on Pewley Hill. Perhaps you could park up and walk especially now that the weather is getting warmer.
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FOPS meeting, Wednesday 4 March
The next FOPS meeting will be on Wednesday 4 March at 8.00 pm in the staff room. All welcome.
Year 2 coffee morning, Friday 13 March
There will be a coffee morning at Laura Sabharwal’s (Rohan, Chestnut) house after school drop-off on 13 March (Comic Relief Day). All welcome!
Year 2 drinks, Wednesday 18 March, at Rogues from 8.30 pm onwards
During the next few weeks Year 2 and then Year 1 will be lent a pedometer for a week to measure how many steps they take each day. A letter will come home with all the details about it, but if you'd prefer your child not to take part then please let Julia Brown know. Many thanks.
2016 Admissions Consultation
A final reminder that the consultation on the 2016 admissions arrangements for HTPD closes on 1 March 2015. Further details are available on the website:
www.holytrinity.surrey.sch.uk/The-School/Parents/Admissions-2016.aspx
Please send any comments to Jane Bennett, clerk to the governing body, janeb@pewleydown.surrey.sch.uk.
Cake Sale
The children really enjoyed choosing and buying their cakes at the cake sale this afternoon. If you forgot to send in 50p, please bring it in to the school office on Monday.
• Zach Rolton, Beech Class, has lost his (un-named) bright blue fleece – it is not a school fleece.
• Thomas Birkett, Chestnut Class, has lost his yellow ELC binoculars and his blue whistle.
• Owen Price, Hazel Class, has lost his blue PE shorts and joggers – both named.
• Molly Marsden, Beech Class, has lost her named leopard hat.
House key on small black and white fob found in the playground.
Menu for week beginning Monday 2 March
Mon: Salmon Crumble Bake or Lentil & Tomato Stew, Wholemeal Pasta; Iced Orange Sponge
Tues: Sausage or Quorn Sausage Volcano, Mashed Potatoes; Jam Tart & Custard
Weds: Steamed Gammon or Cauliflower & Leek Bake, Roast Potatoes; Jelly & Fresh Fruit
Thurs: Yum Yum Chicken or Sweet Potato & Bean Pitta, Rice Pilaf; Pear and Oaty Crumble
Fri: Fish Fingers or Vegetable Lasagne, Chips; Apricot Flapjack
Available daily: A selection of seasonal vegetables, salads and bread. Yoghurt, milk and fresh fruit.
Junior 27/2/15
I hope by now that you have all received the Ofsted inspection report either by electronic means or by a paper copy. It is now uploaded to the website and will be published by Ofsted early next week. I hope that you have enjoyed reading it – we certainly did!
Although we missed outstanding overall by a ‘whisker’, we are very satisfied with the outcome and believe that we are now on a trajectory which should result in ‘outstanding’ in all areas by the next inspection.
The section about how to become outstanding highlights two areas. The first was that a small proportion of teaching observed was not judged to be outstanding, but was judged to be good. In the second point all children were judged to be making progress but a small proportion of that progress was judged not to be rapid. This was thought to be due to children not always having enough time to follow up on feedback and marking. We will work really hard on these two areas.
I was so pleased that the inspectors used such positive language and included so many aspects of school. It was the best report, in terms of description of the school, that we have ever received. From our values to respect and from sport to ‘first name’ policy – all these and many more were commended.
So what happens now? At both Pewley and Holy Trinity we continue to strive for excellence and the provision of a first class educational experience for everyone. We are about to have a ‘blitz’ on handwriting and a full review of our teaching of English from year R – 6. I also hope that we will be able to teach slowly and deeply so that children are thoroughly educated and not just learning how to pass tests. There are, as always at HTPD, exciting times ahead.
Events Week Commencing 2nd March:
Book Week all week
No Dodgeball this week
Thursday 5 March - Greek Day for Year 3
Book Week 3 March - Science Themed Visitors to HT include Neil Downey on Light and Nick Arnold, author of Horrible Histories books. There will be a book swap and the £1 book tokens for World Book Day. More details to follow.
Fluffy Friday
Fluffy Friday is fast approaching and we are looking for enthusiastic parents to take part! If you have a hobby or skill that you would like to share with a small group of children on Friday 20th of March, please let us know as soon as possible. Feel free to suggest new activities. We would really appreciate your help either by leading an activity or being available to support another teacher or provide transport. Please contact:
Cheryl Brace at cherylb@holytrinity.surrey.sch.uk
Heather Havermans at heatherh@holytrinity.surrey.sch.uk
or Claire Cruddas at clairec@holytrinity.surrey.sch.uk
HTPD Prayer Group
We are meeting at Jo Woodhouse's home on Friday 6th March at 1p.m. for coffee, cake and prayer, to which all are welcome! Contact Emma for details - emmalaporte@hotmail.com
Tag Rugby - We had a lovely mini tag rugby tournament on Wednesday with 4 schools involved; Holy Trinity, Boxgrove, St. Bede's and St. Joseph's. Great playing by everybody involved with two wins and a draw for our team.
Netball - All of our Year 5 netballers were involved in playing matches with Queen Eleanor's on Tuesday with three lovley matches. It was fantastic to see so many talented players and lots of goals being scored. The results were 7-3, 3-1 and 3-3. Good luck to the year 6 team playing in the tournament at Holy Trinity tomorrow.
HTPD Prayer Group - We are meeting at Jo Woodhouse's home on Friday 6th March at 1p.m. for coffee, cake and prayer, to which all are welcome! Contact Emma for details - emmalaporte@hotmail.com
Dog Fouling - Unfortunately, we have had reports from concerned parents and staff that people have been seen allowing their pets to foul the are outside of the school and not clearing up. Whilst this is not school property, it is an area that children regularly use coming to and from school. In the interests of the health and hygiene of the children (as well as keeping our school clean), can we please ensure that it is not HTPD parents doing this. We appreciate your support as always.
2016 Admissions Consultation - A final reminder that the consultation on the 2016 admissions arrangements for HTPD closes on 1 March 2015. Further details are available on the website:
HTSC - PTA News
Bingo Night – Saturday 7 March – 6-8pm - Please come & join us for a rip-roaring family BINGO night, this is a great night which the kids love. SEAFARE of Burpham will provide a Fish & Chip supper with a bar and soft drinks available on the night. All ages are welcome & back by popular demand, Jes Moon will be our caller & host for the evening. Please would each person attending kindly bring a small, wrapped bingo prize, costing no more than 50 pence, this could be a sweet, a small toy or something silly! Tickets on sale now. Please return ticket request slip & payment to the school office by Tuesday 3rd March. Cheques to be made out to HTSC. This is a popular school event & tickets sell-out fast. We will need some help on the night if you are able to spare 30 mins to set up, help on the bar or clear up afterwards please contact caroline@swifts.me.uk
“Thirsty Thursdays” – All year group drinks night - As a reminder we are having a ‘once a month social’ for ALL HT parents across all years rather than as individual years. We plan to hold them on the first Thursday of the month at Rogues. The next one is on Thursday March 5 at Rogues from 8pm so please come along and bring a friend too! We would really like to get this once monthly event going strong! It would be great to see you there.
HT@Home - Calling all those who are up for arranging an event /social for your friends and turning it into a fundraiser by asking guests to donate contributions to HTPD. The event can be as diverse as the individuals that host and attend … Some ideas already proposed include coffee mornings, a children’s film night and dinner parties. An on-line fundraising page has been set up to accept donations. More details will follow after half term, along with an Event Registration Form. In the meantime, what HT @ Home event might you like to arrange and host? Have fun planning! …. Funds raised @ these events in March and April will go towards improving computers to which our children have access.
“Thirsty Thursdays”! - All year group drinks night – Thursday 5 Mar from 8pm at Rogues
Family Bingo Night - Saturday 7 March
HT@Home – March and April
For the Easter holidays - run by Guildford Borough Council - FISH @ Easter 2015 - paintballing, dj-ing, horse riding, circus skills, quad biking, mechanics and more! FISH will be running at Kings College, Guildford from Tuesday 7 to Friday 10 April. Prices start at just £60 per child for 4 days, or £25 per child for families in receipt of certain benefits. Places are available for young people with additional needs. Families who are unable to get to FISH can access our subsidised Transport Scheme.
Come and join the fun. Book now at: www.guildford.gov.uk/fish 01483 444769
The Family Voice Surrey, part of a national network, NNPCF, is holding a free Parent Engagement event on Thursday, 5th March 2015 at the Leatherhead Leisure Centre, Guildford, Road, Leatherhead KT22 9BL. It is a great opportunity for all parents/carers to find out what is new and available to help the needs of their child. To find out exactly what is on offer and all other information about the network, please go to: www.familyvoicesurrey.org
Amazing Art Club: Engaging, Creating, Inspiring! @ Holy Trinity Pewley Down School (juniors) £154 for 11 x 2 hour sessions run Tuesdays 3.15 - 5.15pm ALL MATERIALS INCLUDED IN PRICE Tuesday 21st April -7th July 2015 Come along and have fun making and doing: from printing to mini books, painting, drawing and more with inspiring artist Sophie Artemis Pitt. Sophie has 2 sons and loves making books and painting (work collected by the Tate Gallery and the V&A Museum) in her studio in Guildford. Maximum of 10 spaces so book early.
Feel You Need A Break After 1/2 Term? Too much to do and too little time? Come and experience NutriYoga - a fabulous blend of nutrition and yoga helping you live a calmer, happier life. Learn how nutrition can help you de-stress from Nutritional Therapist Jane Barrett (Freddy 6A) and enjoy a deeply relaxing Restorative Yin Yoga practice with Gunilla Hartman (Hanna 4JN) and leave feeling calm, relaxed and ready to take on the world again. You will also get to try fabulous healthy snacks, smoothies and vitality shots and leave with great take home yoga and nutrition advice and ideas. When: Saturday 7 March 14.00-17.00. Where: Yoga Mila in Godalming Price: £35.00 per person
To book contact: jane@nurturingnutrition.co.uk or gunilla@sunnysideyoga.co.uk or visit www.sunnysideyoga.co.uk for online booking.
Menu: Week 1
I expect you are as ready as I am for the half term holiday. The Ofsted inspection is now behind us at Holy Trinity and probably a year or two away at Pewley Down. So this will be a great term and a half to concentrate on the smooth handover to Clare and to start to look at some exciting projects which the school will be able to develop under her leadership. It’s an exciting time for the school and we intend to keep you up to date with all the developments.
As soon as we receive the final Ofsted report I will make sure you have it sent to you. I wonder if you would like a meeting to discuss it as we had last time? Perhaps you could let me know if you would.
I do hope you enjoy the break and we look forward to seeing everyone back in school on Monday 23 February.
Enjoy Valentine’s day!
Well done to Matthew Jones and Christopher French, both in 4J, for winning Bronze medals at a Surrey Judo Tournament at the weekend.
Events happening Week Commencing 23 February
Year 4 Viking Day - Tuesday 24 February
Year 5 Parents Brenscombe Farm Meeting - Thursday 26 February 6pm
Year 6 Yearbook Meeting - Thursday 26 February 7pm
Sportshall Athletics
We took 48 year 5 and 6 children to the Spectrum last Friday for the Guildford Schools Sportshall Athletics competition. It is a fantastic event involving lots of running, jumping and throwing. Both teams did really well and it was a thoroughly enjoyable and noisy afternoon! One of our two teams won the competition and has now progressed through to the County Finals in April. Congratulations to all of the children who participated.
This Thursday saw the 3rd Guildford schools cross-country fixture of the season held up on our own Pewley Downs. It was a lovely event with lots of support and it was fantastic to see so many children running. Our girls team ran a fantastic race with six out of eight runners in the top ten and with Eliza Sutton winning in style. The boys race was equally thrilling with three of our boys getting top ten places. Great running by all involved, well done! Huge thanks to all of the parents who helped out setting up, marshalling and dismantling the course.
Please could we remind everyone that school PE kit is required in school for all of our PE and sport sessions. This includes warm weather gear and most importantly proper sport shoes to ensure that the children are best equipped to make the most of our sessions. Your help with this would be much appreciated. Also, over half term please could you take a moment to dig out any school kit that you may have and return it to school when the children return as we have a very busy six weeks to come!
Book Week 3 March – Science Themed
Visitors to HT include Neil Downey on Light and Nick Arnold, author of Horrible Histories books. There will be a book swap and the £1 book tokens for World Book Day. More details to follow.
Please take a moment to look at the proposals on the HTPD website to significantly alter the admissions arrangements for HTPD: this is particularly relevant if you have a child who is due to start at school from September 2016 onwards. A summary of the changes, together with the full text of the proposed criteria, can be found on the HTPD website at the following link: www.holytrinity.surrey.sch.uk/The-School/Parents/Admissions-2016.aspx.
A note was sent out to parents in December 2014 to launch consultation on the proposed criteria, and the governors ran a consultation meeting for parents on Wednesday 4 February 2015 to go through the proposals, and the thinking behind them, as well as looking at what effect the proposals would have had on admissions based on several previous admissions years. A copy of the slides from the consultation meeting can be found at the link above for those who were unable to attend.
The consultation closes on 1 March 2015: we strongly encourage you to send any comments you wish to make on the proposals to Jane Bennett, clerk to the governing body, at janeb@pewleydown.surrey.sch.uk. Written comments do not have to be in a formal letter - please feel free to simply email with any comments you wish to make, whether short or detailed, before the end of the closing date for the consultation, so that your views can be taken into account in reaching a decision about any changes to admissions criteria.
Holy Trinity School Community (HTSC) PTA News
Bingo Night – Saturday 7 March – 6-8pm
Please come & join us for a rip-roaring family BINGO night, this is a great night which the kids love. SEAFARE of Burpham will provide a Fish & Chip supper with a bar and soft drinks available on the night. All ages are welcome & back by popular demand, Jes Moon will be our caller & host for the evening. Please would each person attending kindly bring a small, wrapped bingo prize,
costing no more than 50 pence, this could be a sweet, a small toy or something silly! Tickets will go on sale immediately after half term so look out for more information on how to order. This is a popular school event & tickets sell-out fast. We will need some help on the night if you are able to spare 30 mins to set up, help on the bar or clear up afterwards please contact caroline@swifts.me.uk
Coming soon: HT@Home
Calling all those who are up for arranging an event /social for your friends and turning it into a fundraiser by asking guests to donate contributions to HTPD. The event can be as diverse as the individuals that host and attend … Some ideas already proposed include coffee mornings, a children’s film night and dinner parties.
An on-line fundraising page will be set up to accept donations. More details will follow after half term, along with an Event Registration Form. In the meantime, what HT @ Home event might you like to arrange and host? Have fun planning! …. Funds raised @ these events in March and April will go towards improving computers to which our children have access.
Lost/Missing - Blue PE top, it is named with Archie Jones (5H) on neckline. Please can you check you don’t have it in your PE bag. Red Fleece gloves - missing since last Tuesday (day of the snow). They have Archie Jones’s name label on the top of the gloves. Please can you check in case you have them. Thank you.
NutriYoga workshop - How to manage stress through nutrition and yoga. Let two HT mums, Jane Barrett (Freddy 6A) and Gunilla Hartman (Hanna 4JN), inspire you through a nutrition talk and a restorative yin yoga session on how to manage stress and rebalance. When: Saturday 7 March 14.00-17.00. Where: Yoga Mila in Godalming. Register now: jane@nurturingnutrition.co.uk or gunilla@sunnysideyoga.co.uk or visit www.sunnysideyoga.co.uk. £35.00 pp including healthy snacks and drinks.
TAG ALONG bike for sale. Old but good working order. £20. Please contact Sara 0783 3732453. Thank you.
We all enjoyed sharing a bedtime story on Tuesday. The children looked even more delightful in their pyjamas and dressing gowns. It was a lovely way to end a busy half term of work, and we wish you and your families a happy and restful half term break. Thanks to FOPS as well for their hard work organising the hot chocolate.
Parent Consultations, Wednesday 4 and Thursday 5 March
Letters about the parent consultation afternoons/evenings on 4 and 5 March will come home in book bags straight after half term (Monday 23 February), and the completed forms will need to be returned by Wednesday 25 February.
A reminder that HTPD is proposing to make significant changes to the admissions arrangements for 2016. A summary of the changes, together with the full text of the proposed criteria and the slides from last week’s consultation meeting are available on the website:
The consultation closes on 1 March 2015. Please send any comments you wish to make to Jane Bennett, clerk to the governing body, at janeb@pewleydown.surrey.sch.uk or by post to Pewley Down Infant School, Semaphore Road, Guildford GU1 3PT.
Ukulele Appeal!
Pewley Down's Year 2 Ukulele Club is in need of ukuleles. Currently we are sharing ukuleles with the Junior site - bringing them back and forth each week - but we would love to have 10 of our own at Pewley to allow the children to practise, learn and enjoy as best as possible. If you have a spare ukulele hanging around at home and would be willing to donate it, please send it to us at Pewley - FAO Patrick. Later in the term we will look at fundraising to buy some more ukuleles, so if this is something you could help with, please let me know by email to patrickd@pewleydown.surrey.sch.uk. Many thanks!
Sainsbury’s Active Kids Vouchers
Please bring in any Active Kids vouchers you may have – the collection box is located outside the hall doors.
ASD parent support group, Thursday 26 February, 9.00 am at Boxgrove School
Boxgrove School run an ASD parent support group and are inviting families from other schools to the next meeting on 26 February. There will be a guest speaker, Carole Scott, from Freemantles coming in to give a talk, as well as the chance to meet other parents in the area. If you are interested in attending please would you email Paula van der Meulen (HTPD Home School Link Worker) paulav@holytrinity.surrey.sch.uk.
TAG ALONG bike for sale. Old but good working order. £20. Contact Sara 0783 3732453.
Menu for week beginning Monday 23 February
Mon: Chicken & Leek Fricassee with Pasta or Mixed Bean & Vegetable Wrap; Blackcurrant Sponge with Custard
Tues: Lamb Casserole or Sweet & Sour Roasted Vegetables, Rice; Ginger Cake with Vanilla Sauce
Weds: Roast Turkey with Roast Potatoes or Chickpea & Vegetable Couscous; Fruit Salad with Frozen Yoghurt
Thurs: Cumberland Sausages or Vegetable & Lentil Casserole, Mashed Potato; Apple & Cinnamon Crumble & Custard
Fri: Fish Fingers & Chips or Macaroni Cheese; Banana Cake
Available daily: A selection of seasonal vegetables, salads and bread. Yoghurt, milk and fresh fruit
Junior 9/2/15
This is the end of another momentous week in school. There I was sitting in my office with the senior leaders during Monday lunchtime when a knock came at the door and Sue announced, “I think this is the call you have been waiting for.” So it was Ofsted and the school swung quickly into final preparation mode. Children and staff were told, all the teachers from PD joined to help in the preparations and already good lessons for the next two days, were shined up a little more.
Tuesday morning came and so did the snow, but no lead inspector – he was stuck in the snow on theA3. It was too hazardous for years 3 and 5 to go on their day trips so these had to be postponed. Eventually all the inspectors arrived and started inspecting!
The whole two day experience was a positive one. The inspectors told us they were not looking to catch us out. They approached each observation, interview, meetings with children and staff with humanity and a smile. They were constantly busy; observing and meeting people and all of us were pretty exhausted by the time they left.
The results and report will be sent out to you as soon as we have it. However visitors to the school will probably notice staff with smiles and a palpable sense of relief.
Thank you so much for your contribution – the parent view scores were amazing 96% positive for all categories. Thank you also for lovely cakes, cards, prayers and good wishes. Lastly a big thank you, once again, for having such wonderful children who behave so well, work so hard, play happily and make the heart of the school beat joyfully.
Have a relaxed weekend – we all deserve it!
Congratulations to Finn (6M) who has been selected to represent Great Britain in an U11 international tennis tournament in France during Half Term. This is a fantastic achievement and we wish him lots of luck.
A reminder that next Friday 13 February is an Inset day. School will close for half-term on Thursday 12 February (3.15pm) and re-open on Monday 23 February.
Please take a moment to look at the proposals on the HTPD website to significantly alter the admissions arrangements for HTPD: this is particularly relevant if you have a child who is due to start at school from September 2016 onwards. A summary of the changes, together with the full text of the proposed criteria, can be found on the HTPD website at the following link:
www.holytrinity.surrey.sch.uk/The-School/Parents/Admissions-2016.aspx.
The consultation closes on 1 March 2015: we strongly encourage you to send any comments you wish to make on the proposals to Jane Bennett, clerk to the governing body, atjaneb@pewleydown.surrey.sch.uk. Written comments do not have to be in a formal letter - please feel free to simply email with any comments you wish to make, whether short or detailed, before the end of the closing date for the consultation, so that your views can be taken into account in reaching a decision about any changes to admissions criteria.
Outstanding amounts payable: For all parents/carers with any amounts outstanding as of yesterday afternoon (Thursday 5th) we will send home yellow invoices with your children today. Please would you settle accounts before the half term – preferably on ParentPay. Thanks very much, Lesley.
Fundraising socials for HT Families and the HT Family – calling all those who are up for arranging an HT social @ Home and turning it into a fundraiser by asking guests to donate contributions to HTPD? The event can be as diverse as the individuals that host and attend … Some ideas already proposed include coffee mornings, a children’s film night and dinner parties.
An on-line fundraising page will be set up to accept donations. More details will follow next week, along with an Event Registration Form. In the meantime, what HT @ Home event might you like to arrange and host? Have fun planning! …. Funds raised @ these events in March will go towards improving computers to which our children have access.
Charity Cake Sale - there will be a cake sale on the Thursday 12 February after school for Alzheimer's.
Quiz Night! Tonight - Friday 6 February 7.30pm at Holy Trinity
It is not too late to come along, tickets will be available on the door. Once again the questions have been set by that master of all things quizzical Michael Tame (Geraldine's other half) Tickets are £5 each. The format is that you bring and share food for your own table, drinks will be on sale from the bar. We aim to finish at 10.30pm. If you have been to one of these before then you know it promises to be a really fun night out, and also will raise money for the school.
Quiz Night - Friday 6 February - 7:30pm
Lost/Missing
• Blue PE top, it is named with Archie Jones (5H) on neckline. Please can you check you don’t have it in your PE bag?
• A pair of blue/grey Zoggs fins size 1-2 were left at St Catherine's after the HT swimming club. If anyone has found them could they please return them to Sam (year 2) or Tabitha Hill-Price (year4)?
Flat/House to rent? We have a Holy Trinity family who would like to rent a 2 bedroom flat/house from March onwards, unfurnished, on a short-term lease. If you are able to help this family please call Catherine on 07968 168335. Thank you.
Infant 9/2/15
Tuesday morning came and so did the snow, but no lead inspector – he was stuck in the snow on the A3. It was too hazardous for years 3 and 5 to go on their day trips so these had to be postponed. Eventually all the inspectors arrived and started inspecting!
Bedtime Story, Tuesday 10 February, 5.15 - 6.00pm
We look forward to seeing you at the Bedtime Story on Tuesday. Children (wearing pyjamas, dressing gowns or onesies and with a cuddly toy) should go to their classrooms for a story with their teacher. Parents are very welcome to wait in the hall where there will be tea and coffee available.
Snow: A big ‘thank you’ to the parents who helped clear the snow on Tuesday morning.
Lost property: We have lots of lost property in the boxes outside the lower entrance. If you are missing any items of school uniform please have a look in the boxes next week. Any un-claimed items will go to a charity shop at half-term.
Spare clothes: We are desperately short of spare pairs of boys’ pants as well as girls’ tights for the medical room. Please return any clothes your child may have borrowed, and we would be very grateful for any spare, outgrown pants, socks or tights.
We need some help making and serving hot chocolate at the Bedtime Story on Tuesday. If you are able to help between 5.00 and 6.00pm, please contact Nicci Holliday: nicciholliday2012@gmail.com
Pewley Bake 'n' Stroll - Sunday 22 March 2015 - 2pm - 4.30pm
A chance to exercise your baking skills and your leg muscles by joining Pewley's answer to the The Great British Bake Off and an Easter Treasure Hunt up on the Downs. More details to follow.
• A pair of blue/grey Zoggs fins size 1-2 were left at St Catherine's after the HT swimming club. If anyone has found them could they please return them to Sam (year 2) or Tabitha Hill-Price (year4).
• Lucy Brooke, Chestnut, pink Jo Jo Maman mittens (name written on inside label).
• Sam Brooke, Walnut, 1 yellow Sondico football glove - (name written on inside label) blue and green Speedo goggles (not named).
February Half Term & Easter holiday tennis
Dear Parents, Happy New Year to you all!
With February half term just around the corner and the Australian Open trophy on Djokovic’s mantle (shame L), our mornings only camp at the Charterhouse Club might be just the trick to perk us all up. The camp will take place 9:30am-12:30pm each morning between 16-20 February for children from 4-8 years. This is the perfect opportunity to fast track progress on all aspects of the game with loads of fun drills, guaranteed indoor tennis with the best coaching team in town! The camp costs just £30 per morning or £120 for the entire week. Weekly bookings can be made on the Premier Tennis website while individual days can be reserved by calling 0845 475 1147. If you're looking further ahead to the Easter holidays, full week bookings made before 14th February will receive a £20 discount per child. Enter the voucher code ECHART20 and follow the booking process. See you on court soon! The Premier Tennis Team
Menu for week beginning Monday 9 February
Mon: Salmon Pasta or Vegetable Pasta Bake; Eve’s Pudding
Tues: Chinese Chicken & Noodles or Vegetable Noodles; Pear Semolina
Weds: Roast Gammon & Gravy or Cheese & Onion Flan, Roast Potatoes; Ice Cream & Fruit Puree
Thurs: Fish Fingers or Jacket Potato with Cheese; Jam Tart
Fri: School closed – Inset day
Infants Juniors
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Dawn Staley
A three-time Olympic gold medalist, and the NCAA’s all-time steals leader, Dawn Staley was an undersized sparkplug that led the University of Virginia to three consecutive Final Fours. She was a two-time National Player of the Year and was named the Most Outstanding Player of the 1991 NCAA Final Four. Staley was one of the early pioneers in the mid-90s revolution of professional basketball for women, first playing in the ABL for the Richmond Rage and later in the WNBA for the Sting and Comets. Her first Olympics came in 1996, and she was honored by her countrymen in 2004 by carrying the flag into the Olympic Stadium for the Opening Ceremony. Staley was a five-time WNBA All-Star and a three-time Kodak All-America.
May 04, 1970 Philadelphia, PA
Houston Comets Charlotte Sting Richmond Rage Philadelphia Rage
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6x WNBA ALLSTAR
2x ABL ALLSTAR
2x ATLANTIC 10
454 COLLEGE CAREER STEALS
NCAA RECORD
Richie Guerin Class of 2013
Oscar Schmidt Class of 2013
Roger Brown Class of 2013
Bernard King Class of 2013
Katrina McClain Class of 2012
E.B. Henderson Class of 2013
Russ Granik Class of 2013
Sylvia Hatchell Class of 2013
Geno Auriemma Class of 2006
Van Chancellor Class of 2007
Rick Pitino Class of 2013
Guy V. Lewis Class of 2013
Gary Payton Class of 2013
Teresa Edwards Class of 2011
Lisa Leslie Class of 2015
Jerry Tarkanian Class of 2013
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The unbearable temptation of extroversion
I do not know when it happened, or, at least, happened for the rest of the world that is always out there judging me as a person, and unsolicitedly deciding my personality traits on my behalf. I got labelled as an extrovert.
I grew up as a shy kid, which is how every kid grows up in a middle-class family in India. I had to go through the assault of plentiful relatives and countless uncles and aunties from the neighborhood who would drop-by the house in the evenings. And just when I would try sneaking in some unsecluded corner of our meagre house to escape this barrage, one of my parents would do the inevitable – “Bade acchhe number aaye iske is baar. Beta aunty ko wo waali poem sunaao.” The ensuing hours were always tormenting: I would fumble through one of the textbook poems, while my audience would munch away namkeen biscuits and loudly sip through their tea. This wasn’t even public performance, but the slightest exposure to people for my 12-year old mind was almost indecent. As I grew up further, the pressure to dance at children’s birthday parties and family weddings and community gatherings on local festivals started building up from unknown people who always seemed to decide things on my behalf – that somebody who scores decently in school should do this, and this, and this as well. The list included learning martial arts, playing a musical instrument, painting, typewriting, but never television.
And so I went through each of these. While learning Karate, and later Taekwondo, the only thing I could do decently were the forms: quietly using the flexibility afforded by a kid’s body to demonstrate exercises, kicks, and punches, without actually hitting anyone. Whenever I was asked to actually fight, I would be terrorized. Not because fights were terrifying (no one hit opponents for real), but the onlookers made me freeze. It was once again an indecent exposure, and somehow my embarrassment never got channelized into aggression, but almost always into helplessness. The Hawaain guitar lessons were rather boring with too much of classical teachings for a brain that was more at ease knowing about formulations of dry ice. I could’ve still managed to learn some bits of guitar, had I been left alone instead of being asked to perform in my first year of training in front of an audience consisting of, you know who. For them, it was an enjoyable game: I knew only 4 Bollywood songs, and they had to guess which one I was playing because it was rarely identifiable. With painting, just when I thought I was beginning to like the blue skies I could paint, my parents thought it well to exhibit them to every visitor to the house. And lo, I lost interest in that as well. The only thing that went well was typewriting, probably because there were no samples to bring home, or no machines to demonstrate on. I avoided all forms of sports too, because it always required people training their eyes on you – I couldn’t stand people prying on how I bat, or how I swim, or how I exercise in a gym.
My introversion was best reflected in the personal notebook I had as a school kid. On some days, it had diary entries, often it had lyrics from Bollywood songs (I had a fancy for the lyrical charm of old Bollywood), and sometimes, amateur poems. One fine day, pop came a request in front of a nameless neighbor – “Beta why don’t you recite that poem you wrote on prices of mustard oil?” And there, my secret was gone. It was as if the world was always conspiring for me to perform; anything done in seclusion wasn’t worth doing.
With entry into college, my introversion got subjected to further stress tests. To be amongst the guys who ‘belonged’, one had to be talkative, sociable, and friendly. I tried a year of rather secluded living, but it seemed like the extroverts created such a tremendous pressure that one always felt left out. These were the guys who would sit and narrate stories on a canteen bench and others will listen with rapt attention, who would stay up late at night and go for a smoke at 4 am and others would want to join them, who would watch sports in the common room and others will react with them, who would manage to be in a spotlight that seemed to always follow them. And I started to be that guy. Only that, I still couldn’t deal with sports, or do anything that didn’t involve being with the crowd and almost hiding in it. I did manage public speaking, but only to an audience that was familiar. Strangers gave me goosebumps.
The corporate world was even more ruthless. Here, extroversion was rewarded; not just by women swooning over you in gatherings, but by clients who judged your acumen based on the glibness of your talk. I would cringe at colleagues who could introduce themselves to everybody in the party, completely on their own. Like just by themselves, no kidding. I would detest those who were comfortable in their skin to walk-in late, and still get noticed even by super-seniors, or walk-out early, and still get fabulous send-offs compared to people like us whose presence never even mattered. I would despise those who could dance gracefully even in suits and dress shoes, and even when they had to be the first ones on the dance floor. And because I couldn’t be them, I started being the guy who could at least hold a conversation with people who were known personally and pretend being an extrovert. Such was the temptation that I couldn’t resist being an extrovert, if only for non-strangers. I started liking it too: hosting a gathering where I felt comfortable enough to pass sarcastic remarks made me feel closer to that performer I was always pushed into becoming.
It’s rather unfortunate that introversions rarely get rewarded. There were barely a handful who could delve deeper into my mind and notice that it had thoughts I would like to consider as beautiful, and not just the unruliness of a pretentious high-fiver. Only a few could see through my eyes to know that networking events are loathsome, that gatherings where less than half of the invitees are known to me are abhorring, that there is more peace in the music that plays amidst the closest companies instead of an unknown crowd in a motley bar. It’s rather unfortunate that extroverts got the upper hand in the worldly scheme of things. The loud and attention-seeking people mostly devoid of substance won the rat-race, and it is worse that I am still trying to be one of them because it were them who labelled me as an extrovert and I had to play along: it’s tempting, you see! To make some amends, next time when we meet, please ask me about my blogs instead of my favorite cocktail.
P.S. Thanks to Rabia Kapoor for the inspiration.
Posted by KV at 12:46 AM
Vedha said...
Nice piece of writing. You've got to read Susan Cain!
hmmm . that explains why "Born Spectator" .
Why are you not writing anymore?
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Chris Cornell’s Widow Sues Soundgarden Over Royalties
Staff | December 11, 2019 |
Chris Cornell’s widow, Vicky Cornell, is suing the surviving members of Soundgarden and has filed a lawsuit against the band over the rights to seven unreleased recordings.
The suit claims that the band is “withholding hundreds of thousand of dollars in royalties” owed to Cornell and her and Chris’ children who are minors. Vicky Cornell says that the band wants the rights to the material, which she calls an “unlawful attempt to strong-arm Chris’ Estate into turning over certain audio recordings created by Chris before he passed away.”
Vicky Cornell claims to have offered to share the recordings with Soundgarden so they can be released in conjunction with Chris’ wishes, including having his producer involved, but she says the band refused. Soundgarden are claiming they worked on the tracks with Chris, stating they were “working on the files in a collaborative effort,” and the “entire band was feeling very positive about their rekindled artistic energy and creativity” before Cornell passed away. The group also claims that various members of the band are co-songwriters on five of the seven disputed recordings.
Chris Cornell’s Widow Is Suing Soundgarden
Via ultimateclassicrock.com
The dispute apparently traces back to seven unreleased songs. Continue reading…
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Gilmour VS. Waters
Posted on June 08th 2006
Every now and then, we (my band) have these little fights or arguments over who is better; Gilmour or Waters. We (well, most of us) always end up with Gilmour and judging by the way we perform the Floyd songs, we are on Gilmour’s side… If there is such a thing as taking sides in this matter. Still, very early on we decided that we were only to perform songs from the original era.. the Waters era. Why? Both the songs and live experience was better in the 70’s.
Yesterday we got a bootleg from the Rio concert, – Waters’ opening night. I was, or we all were, excited that he had pulled out rare classics like Sheep and Fletcher’s Memorial Home (we are all huge fans of Final Cut). I don’t know what we expected, but I was (and still is) very pissed that it sounded so bad… Yes, I was pissed. Now, I know a lot of you are Waters fans. Probably as much as you like Gilmour, but get me right. I respect the man and I’m a huge fan of his work. Hey, there wouldn’t have been a Floyd without him… or a Gilmour! But, I get embarassed when I listen to his own versions of the Floyd classics. The man just can’t get it right… he never has…
OK. Before you delete my site from your bookmarks and call me a jerk, let me explain my view. To me, Gilmour has always been the true musicican in Floyd. From the very start (almost), he took charge in shaping Waters’ ideas into listenable pieces. Together with Wright and Mason, he made them into the classics we know today. Sure, Waters was the man behind most of it, but could he play? No. Could he write down the long instrumental parts? No. It’s all Gilmour and Wright. I think what Waters’ did best was to say “I like this” and “I don’t like this”. He has always been good at hearing what he wants and telling the band how to do it, but it takes a musician to make it happen…
This is also why I think his live shows differs so much from Gilmour’s way of doing things. Waters has been doing his own “thing” since the Pros and Cons tour in the mid 80’s and while I can understand that one gets caught up in the tacky 80’s way of doing things, I can’t understand why he doesn’t change things around now to sound as Floyd as possible. He is the one who travles around claiming to be the “Creative Genious of Pink Floyd”, but he sounds like a bad cover…
Gilmour has put together a band consisting of some of the finest musicians the business has to offer. Not only that, but they want to make it sound authentic and good. I don’t even think Gilmour had to tell them that. They have a vibe and feeling that surpasses everything one could have hoped for from farily young musicians. Of course it helps to have names like Phil Mazanera and Richard Wright too… So what have Waters done? It’s obvious that he is comfortable with the guys from the original Bleeding Hearts Band, because he keeps bringing them in and it sounds exactly the same as in 85. Double bass drums on Shine On. Endless “Van Halen” wanking on the guitar and not a soulful moment from any of them. Not even Waters sounds like him self… I was surprised how good he sounded on Live 8. This was not the bass player I had vitnessed the last decades. This was the good ol’ Roger. It didn’t last tho…
I know you can’t judge a band on the opening night and let alone on a bootleg, but that’s not really my point either. I was hoping Waters was so “on” the Floyd thing again (as he claims) and that he had done everything to make it sound right. Unfortunately he hasn’t… This has nothing to do with the fact that I saw Gilmour last week performing Echoes (that I am blinded). I only think that he has prooven once and for all that he has the right tools to bring on the Floyd legacy. The sad thing though (at last for me), is that I don’t think most people even care or hear the difference. They want a good show and the old classics. After all, let’s face it… Roger Waters has a bigger name than David Gilmour.
So, if you’re still reading… This “war” that has been going on since “87” has probably done more to the fans than Floyd it self. It’s like a nation voting for two persidents or “should we have this religion or this?”. Basically it’s all just stupid and ultimately it comes down to taste… which obviously one can’t argue. It seems to be a two way thing between the fans and the band too. The more the fans and press talks about the conflict, the bigger it seems to get. It’s funny to see how the tables have turned… Now it is Gilmour who doesn’t want a band. I can’t blame him and he is fortunate enought to make his own calls. Still, it’s pretty frustrating for the fans and like Mason said , – it’s pretty British too… or childish. Why can’t they just talk to each other and deal with it? Live 8 didn’t help at all it seems… And don’t tell me that it’s just a coincidence that Gilmour has added new outdoor dates too his tour and are putting out PULSE while Roger is touring. The war is still on…
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You listen the music of Pink Floyd with Syd Barrett? Gilmour wasn’t there in the first 2 albums of Pink Floyd. Waters was there. And Wright and Mason. Waters, as he said, was very much marked by Syd Barrett. They wrote together first 2 albums. The music after Barrett, with Gilmour, was with the influence of Barrett’s ideas and Waters’s too. Gilmour was a great musician, but the music has the mark of Waters (inspired by Barrett in the early years). Gilmour has a great influence in the Pink Floyd music, but the original ideas was from Barrett and Waters.Don’t forget Wright and Mason.
Well, Barrett didn’t play on Saucerful. Only Jugband Blues.
Charlie Marando says:
Syd Barrett is SO overhyped. Pink Floyd’s really great music came long after Syd was gone. Gilmour, Waters and Mason wrote amazing stuff after Syd was out of the way. Syd’s songs were, honestly, somewhat juvenile & silly. Syd looked really cool (visually beautiful) and that has gone a long way to elevate his status.
If not for Syd Barret, there would never have been a Pink Floyd!!!! He was a genius who unfortunately did way too much Acid, and went somewhere you don’t come back from. No Over hype about him at all!
Peace KEITH
Peter Muscarella says:
I couldn’t agree more. The Syd Barrett stuff is just kind of ok. Floyd really hit their stride around the time Meddle came out. You can thank David Gilmour for this. I also prefer Gilmour to Waters but I will also say both were better when they worked together. That’s why people are so upset about no meaningful reunion.
Sure as we all know the best stuff was produced when Dave and Roger worked together. Rogers lyrical and musical ideas were shaped into good arrangements by Dave most of the time, although not to be forgotten is Rick’s input there, too. At least up until Animals as he himself recalled in an interview.
The rest … well Dave said once “ancient Floyd history” and he hates to talk about that time :D
Bro what you on about. Piper at the gates of dawn was a psychedelic masterpiece, in the height of the psychedelic era. Singles like arnold Layne and see emily play are also up there. Syd Barrett was also one of the only artist that could really use British vocabulary in music while most other British bands of that time used american vocabulary, making this album extra special for many Brits
Thank you, Piper is one of my faves! Nice to see someone who has taste somewhere other than their mouth, haha!
motorcaster57 says:
Dave was already bailing during the wall because of Roger’s attitude… Roger Waters is a toxic human…The opposite of DG… Once the good work was done, Dave knew it and knew he must move on… Roger Waters has a whiney voice is an average bass player and cannot even handle an acoustic guitar… Roger was increasingly narcissistic and Dave was still full of creativity. David’s first solo record was the best solo record either of them did because the music had immense sonic space.. Music trumps lyrics.. That’s why we don’t have Poet Stars, we have rock stars… David had a beautiful voice and he sang the chrouses which are the beautiful elevating parts of PF’s music… Roger had about an octave and a half of usable vocals and was not a natural performer..He expressed his art through his lyrics although they did not speak that well to me… Dave had 3 octaves and no fear… Roger was alienated, Dave was inclusive… I was very happy that Roger was not with them and Rick Wright and Dave Gilmour could really flesh out the musical ideas and not worry to much about the lyrics…. One Slip… Terminal Frost ….. are you kidding…. These songs are sonic masterpieces… I never even learned the words… Gilmours soaring guitar lines made for arena… Not a flourish of notes strung together but a statement made with a Tele or a Strat that told us a story as we yearned for something new… I didn’t want Roger back in the band… He almost strangled it during The Wall and he did during The Final Cut… Half of the wall was unlistenable and the same for the final cut… No one creates feeling with a guitar like David Gilmour… or sings so effortlessly while doing so … It is a reflection of who he is….. It’s pretty easy to tell which side of the argument I am on…. But my favorite PF album is clearly DSOTM…. Collectively the rang the bell on that one…….
Except Pink Floyd without Waters was not the same, and of the two, Waters has had the most successful and just better solo career. If you think Waters didn’t add anything musical to the band, then how come the two albums after him are considered some of the most lackluster ones in their history?
There could be a number of reasons why Momentary and Bell aren’t considered as good as Dark Side or any of the other classic albums. I think that if you look at any band with such a long carreer, they rarely keep up with the classic early releases. They get older and change the perspective. They’re not hungry and have nothing to prove. And, although loyal, fans change taste and move on. Roger didn’t release any highlights either, apart from Amused but then again, Bell sold more. In any case, a band isn’t the same band once one of the members decides to leave. Whomever it is.
I saw PF with Roger, and twice without, and Tampa in 1977 for the Animals tour was by far the best of the 3 shows. I don’t criticize the younger generation who seems to like the Wall, and post Waters stuff the most, but I find all Floyd from the first album, with Syd, through Animals their best work. And that one album with Syd is IMO the catalyst that made Pink Floyd, and as I’ve said before, without Syd Barrett, there would have been no Pink Floyd, and I doubt any of the other members would have been popular as they became.
Yokel says:
I agree wholeheartedly with everything @motorcaster57 said in their comment.
Waters, Wright, Glimour and Mason together made some of the greatest music of all time. It is a big shame that Roger Waters seemed to have a toxic attitude that was always destined to rip the classic band line-up apart.
Roger vs David as a live musical experience, only has one winner. David’s superb playing and singing far out-performs watching anything Waters can do, it’s a near religious experience. @motorcaster57’s point is perfect – ultimately fans want Rock Stars not Poet Stars.
I’ve seen PF live at least 15 times starting in 1987 – including some oddities like the Sad Barrett tribute in 2007 (where Roger appeared at the same event but performed separately), Live 8 in 2005 (I was so privileged to finally see that classic line-up play live) and the Silver Clef Award Winners Concert at Knebworth 1990.
I have seen Roger solo 3 times and David solo 3 times (including when David Bowie guested at the Royal Albert Hall and sang Roger’s bits of Comfortably Numb). @motorcaster57’s point on Roger’s singing voice and musicianship is totally correct, Roger struggles to sing and he’s average at best on acoustic guitar, although it’s always nice to hear him play bass on the old PF numbers.
David Lomax says:
You don’t hear Waters singing any Gilmour penned numbers at shows.. Gilmour otherwise .
Well, yes you do. Run Like Hell, Dogs and, Comfortably Numb which I believe is the climax on all of Waters’ shows. All of these was written by Gilmour and he brought them into the band.
One reason why Roger tends to stick to his own songs is because he can’t sing the songs that David Gilmour sang. On the last tour, he had Jon Carrin and others singing Dogs and other songs that Gilmour sung. On Roger’s last solo album, he hardly sung he pretty much read the parts. I love Roger and I give him a lot of credit for resurrecting much of the Animals LP on his last tour, but his voice is pretty much gone. Furthermore, he no longer writes music that sounds like Pink Floyd (although his lyrics are still very powerful).. He hasn’t since the mid ’80’s.
Mike Louden says:
After Rodger Waters ran the ball to the 5 yard line, david Gilmore ran it in for the winning score. Both made music history. Both stallions! Wasn’t enough room for waters ego unfortunately
Where do you read that this was the case? Has Gilmour dismissed the claims Waters made about him and Wright keeping Waters down? Roger left because Wright wasn’t a helpful member anymore, and Gilmour was too soft to do anything, Wright even admitted to being a splinter in the group, how come everyone blames Waters?
David Gilmore picked up the ball and ran it in for the winning touchdown. Enough said.
Luca Giordano says:
Two points of view. You can try too make it sound as authentic as possible…. but the risc is that you become your own tributeband and perhaps bored.
Or you can try two give it a twist, change it around and keep yourself and audiencies on their toes…. with the risc of rewriting the original too a lesser version or making tacky judgement calls (vanhalen solo’s)
I would say that treating the song as a living thing is good but having said that, I like Gilmours’ shows better…..
ultimately there is no right or wrong….
you’re probably right, but if waters couln’t write down the long instrumentals parts how did he manage to write that opera about the french revolution ?
Lynde Smith says:
I loved it totally agree. David is awesome and roger scares me haha
Eh, no. Waters wrote all the lyrics and 90% of the music on dsotm, wywh and animals. I love the other guys and they contributed to the sound of Pink Floyd. But Waters is and will always be the aritect behind the band.
Endre says:
Simply no. He did not write 90% of it. As Bjørn also wrote on this subject before, credits is a tricky beast. Writing and producing credits is about who earns what amount of money, in what capacity they do stuff on the album. I have read and seen as good as all there is to read/watch on documentaries and interviews from the band and producers/mixers involved with Pink Floyd. They all played, rehearsed and threw out ideas and riffs together before the Animals album. But the guy sparking the initial idea or riff that evolved into the final song usually get the main writing credit.
Waters started to take full control in the start of the Animals album. You can clearly hear the shift in music direction, wich then continued on and manifested itself completly by the time they started on the album The Wall. And if you listen to both Final Cut and The Wall, the structure and soundscape are pretty much the same. The Wall was Waters writing 90%. Final Cut was 100% Waters.
You can tell the differense in how the albums feel. Division bell and endless river sounds alot more like wywh and dsotm in its structure and flow. Endless river actually sounds very close to some of the long instrumental parts on shine on. It’s pretty evident who made pink floyd sound like ‘classic pink floyd’. And its even more evident when you go to their live shows. But waters was a creative force. He did contribute alot on all those albums. He was the main driving force behind the consepts and themes of the albums, he wrote alot of the music and also contributed 100% involved with all the lyrics from dsotm and onwards. So yes, waters contributed ALOT, but not 90%.
Somebody needs to do their homework. 90% of the music … simply ridiculous.
I did do my homework. 90% of the music waters wrote. Do your homework.
Roger wrote just about all the lyrics between Dark Side and Final Cut.
Roger had initial ideas for the concept of the albums in this period but the concept on Dark Side, WYWH and Animals in particular, was developed further by the band.
Roger did bring musical ideas into the band for all of the albums between Dark Side and Wall but all of the material was worked out and arranged by the band during rehearsals and touring. Dark Side was very much a band effort. WYWH and Animals feature music that was written largely on the Dark Side tour and arranged by the band. David and Rick had a huge impact on both WYWH and Animals musically, with chord progressions and arrangements.
Wall was largely Waters but it also had huge input from producer Bob Ezrin and composer Michael Kamen. Rick and Mason was very much left out, while David did arrange several of the songs in addition to bringing Young Lust, Comfortably Numb and Run Like Hell into the sessions.
Final Cut is very much a joint collaboration between Roger and Kamen. David and Nick was taken on board as session musicians. Rick was not a part of the band.
All music prior to Dark Side was very much a band effort.
All of this can be verified by listening to available demos, bootleg live recordings and reading books and interviews with the band.
lapelcelery says:
Bjorn, you may have more info on this than I do. I always hear that Dave brought C. Numb to the wall sessions, but I’ve never seen any evidence that he brought anything other than the chords and melody for the chorus before the others heard it.
I know Dave has released the demo he brought to the sessions, and that contains only these parts – the verse only appears as early as the band demos as far as I’m aware.
I’ve always been of the opinion that the verse music sounds pure Waters, particularly with the emphasis on the bass. Does anyone have any more info on this?
I’ve only heard David’s demo that he recorded for his 1978 solo album. As far as I know, he brought it to the Wall session and Roger pretty much turned it into Comf Numb. Hard to tell how they worked on it in the studio, there are lots of “in progress” material but I think it was very a much a Waters song after David presented the initial demo. They apparently fought about the mix but from what I understand that’s minor changes in the levels.
This debate should be really simple. If you think The Wall/Final Cut is Pink Floyds masterpieces, then clearly Waters is the ‘creative leader and boss’. If you think DSOTM and WYWH are the best, then Wright/Gilmour must be the way to go. You can hear the same musical landscape on dsotm, wywh and Division Bell, Endless River. Also in David’s recent solo work and live performances. It’s Pink Floyd through and through.
A good idea in itself isn’t enough to create good music. Music is, after all, about music. Not words or creative ideas in itself. And thats the direction, a Waters dominant Floyd, was heading. Dark, bleak and depressive.The truth is, alot of other people in and around the band had alot more influence on these records, than Waters wants us to believe. Bob Ezrin had alot of creative input on the wall. Gilmour shaped the tunes. He added texture and extended musical pieces to make it fit together as a whole piece.
And as Gilmour so eloquently put it “Roger never had any success with anything he had full creative control over”
ojay says:
To me Waters was the creative talent and the rest were his backing band I only have to listen to the crap Pink fraud put out after Waters left to reinforce that theory.
I love Gilmour, Mason and Wright as musicians but creatively they bore the pants off me.
Don’t get me started on Polly.
I agree that I have heard Waters do some Floyd tunes at live shows and they were not as good as Floyd, with the exception of ‘The Wall tour’ which I felt that the only element missing was Gilmour’s vocals.
I know I only speak for myself but hey that’s what makes life interesting.
Don’t hate debate.
In response to Ojay, other than 2 or 3 songs (which are ok), the music on Roger Waters’ solo albums is boring and sounds like bad 80’s music. I hear none of the Pink Floyd style creativity that one hears in SOYCD, Welcome to the Machine, Time, WYWH, Have a Cigar, Dogs, Sheep, etc. 1) One could argue that it is the overall arrangement by Pink Floyd that makes their songs special and there is a lot of truth in that claim. Even on the songs that bear only Roger’s name (minus the stripped down acoustic numbers), these songs would have never been Pink Floyd songs if it wasn’t for the contributions of Wright and Gilmour., For example, would Money have been the same if it wasn’t for Gilmour’s guitar? 2) One could also argue that Roger lost his musical muse when he left the band. (IMO, He started losing it after The Wall.) Most of the great composers write their best material in a period lof a decade or less and the 70’s were when Roger was most prolific. While Momentary Lapse and the Division Bell may not be on par with DSOTM or WYWH, songs like “Sorrow”, “Marooned”, and “High Hopes” are definitely Pink Floyd classics. I don’t see how any true Pink Floyd could call these songs boring. On the other hand, if you think the lyrics are the most important part of the song, I can understand your affinity for Roger’s solo career. However, Gilmour and Wright were the Pink Floyd’s musical tour de force and they made Pink Floyd relevant again after The Wall.
I definitely think Gilmour is better. Waters sounds really bad without the rest of the band. His name that he tours with him is just awful. I was watching a rig rundown of the guitars, and his main guitar was a Les Paul. I was just like “A Les Paul?!? As a main guitar for Floyd?!? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?” And it always makes me mad how either 1) the band is just a really bad cover band, 2) he purposefully messes with the the songs, or 3) he wants to get away from his Floyd background. But if he wants number 3, he’s not doing it right, as well as he always claimed/claims that he is Pink Floyd. Don’t get me wromng, I like his lyrics, but the true emotion comes from Gilmours guitars, Richard’s careful movements in the keys, and Mason’s ability to feel the song and develop a drum fill perfect for the mood.
Glumonion says:
I’ve been a Pink Floyd fan since the wonderful sounds of Echo,s came willowing out of my brothers sickly sweet smoke filled room in 1972. The best albums by far are those between 1970 and 1977 (Atom heart to Animals). Personal favourites are Wish You Were Here and Meddle.
For me there were four important components of Pink Floyd. Roger Waters provided the strength and substance.
David Gilmour the Musicallity.
Richard Wright provided the gorgeous texture that was uniquely Pink Floyd.
Nick Mason was the rhythm and the catalyst that brought the whole thing together.
Working together they were awsome, working individually they were a pale shadow of their united selves. You only had to go back to the studio part of Ummagumma to realise this.
The trouble started when they asked ‘which one is Pink’. They should have listened to Ummagumma at that point to confirm that only together they were Pink Floyd.
I agree with you mostly. Fan of Pink Floyd since I’m 14. I think Waters is like the strengh of the band and Gilmour and Wright are like the harmony. Without them it wouldn’t happen. Without Water wouldn’t happen either. I was never a fan of “The Piper at the Gates of Dawn”, Gilmour wasn’t in there… so it is easy to see his legacy. Echoes is a good example of these 4 together doing a masterpiece. Sad that Waters didn’t let the band go farther or have the others participate more (Animals and The Wall could be even better). Anyways, I was to a Roger Waters concert and I enjoyed every second (I knew it would never be like Pink Floyd) but it is the closest experience I could get. I hope to see Gilmour in the future.
mnanda says:
Obviously opinions vary. Personally my favorites are the last 4 albums waters and gilmour did together – dark side, animals, wish you were here, the wall. It was dark side that rogers commented they had finally learned to use their chisels properly and this time did it right. I couldn’t agree more. Everything before that, especially the syd barret era, I could just not get into any of that stuff. Obscured by clouds was ok, the next best runner up, and Floyd in Pompeii has one very good song. But otherwise, all the early stuff is no comparison at all. It’s like they were just experimenting and doing all kinds of whacky stuff rather than making real good music, I mean come on – a song with a dog barking ?? But then suddenly with dark side they went from tinkering to lengendary song making.
And after rogers left, their solo music was never nearly as good as Pink floyd. All the solo albums have a few hilights but simply cannot compare to the 4 best floyd albums. Would be awesome if they got back together, but i suspect even if they did (especially with wright gone) and put together another album, it just might not be quite as good as it was. The magic of pink floyd song writing is probably not only the combination of the individuals, but also the era of time, or whatever it may be, perhaps planetary influenes or something. We can see that the music of the 80’s changed from the 70’s, and by the 90’s the creative magic of soul touching songs was practically gone. The whole jaunder of classic rock pretty much ended in the 80’s when van halen changed to sammy hagar.
It’s almost like we’re kind of stuck listening to just music from 30+ years ago. Sure there’s a few catchy tunes that come and go but all the modern music just comes and goes, nothing lengendary and long lasting like Floyd.
But what I’d like to know mostly is how the pink floyd songs came together. Each song may vary and it would be very intersting for musicians to know how exactly each song evolved – did it start with lyrics, a chord progression, keyboards or what. I have searched on this topic and cannot find much details. There’s a few mentions only for instance Crazy Diamond gilmour mentioned that it was the 4 opening notes he stumbled up first which then inspired waters with the lyrics. And with the wall it is said that waters basically came in with the whole thing already written and when he asked the others what they had written, they had nothing prepared.
This is what I’d really like to know – what exactly did waters already have written when he introduced the concept of the wall to the band ? Are we talking just the lyrics, are we talking lyrics and chords or what ? Waters was primarily the bass player, but you do see him on documentaries or on the live performance of ‘mother’ where he plays acoustic guitar. Did he write the songs with acoustic guitar, come up with the basic chord structure and lyrics ? O did he write the song on bass. Did he use a metronome ? How exactly did the different instruments come together, one after the other, simultaneously, track by track, or by an improvised live jam ? Some albums of various bands are first composed with all the instruments, and then lastly the vocals are written. Then sometimes it starts with vocals, etc, etc.
We would need to know all this and know exactly who contributed what. But I don’t see anyone talking about this (unless I missed something in this very long thread). What we need is a documentary where we interview waters, gilmour and the sound engineers and walk through each song and break it down. Get each of their takes on how it came together. That would be most interesting and very educational musically for those of us who are interested in song writing.
This is widely documented in different books, interviews etc. There is enough info out there to figure out who did what. Keep in mind though… Pink Floyd, like most bands back in the days, worked out their songs together. Either in the studio, during soundchecks or live shows. It was often a long process of everyone chipping in, adding ideas and their sound.
Credits on the album cover often refer to the initial idea but Roger’s ideas were often some lyrics, bits of chords and perhaps a very rough demo of him playing acoustic. Money is a great example of how one of his very crude ideas became the song we know, after everyone added something. Not only specific pieces and ideas but playing the song together also makes you realize what’s working and what’s not, so the song also evolves naturally from just jamming and playing.
Credits is also about politics and money. The Wall for instance, is mostly credited to Roger, but while he did have the concept and indeas for most of the songs, the versions and albums that we know, is largely a group effort with a lot of input from David, Bob Ezrin and Michael Kamen in particular.
Same goes for a solo album. Neither Amused to Death nor On an Island, or any of the other albums, are just Roger or David. It’s a group effort between them, the producer and all the musicians playing.
Again, we know a lot about who had the idea, who wrote the demo and lyrics and who contributed what but between all that, there is a group effort that is hard to pin down and again, that’s rarely reflected in the album’s credits.
So I read most of this article and I couldn’t finish it. Let me start off by saying Gilmore as much as I agree how absolutely incredible he is and I love his music. Waters was in the band from the very beginning. David was lucky to have the chance to fill in guitar for Sid’s issues. Waters was part of the writing from the beginning to help shape there psychedelic sound.
Waters wrote most of there best albums. I have seen him the last 3 times he came to the states. If you watch the documentary’s you can see just how extremely involved Roger is with the writing. Roger is the Lennon of the group and David/ wright are the McCartney’s of the band. They all serve a important part in the band! Just remember the waterless Floyd though still great was not nearly as edgy as with Waters.
Agreed. If you were lucky enough to attend a concert from Water’s 2017 “Us + Them” tour, it didn’t take long to realize who the master behind Pink Floyd was. Wow. Just wow. The medium + the message.
I was lucky enough to see Us and Them and yes I agree mostly. Although I do think Gilmour and the rest had a lot to do with the pearly perfection of Pink Floyd. You would have noted that Roger has not changed much in the music when he plays PF today. He is sharp enough to know perfection when he hears it. .
I can see the Lennon/ McCartney comparison loosely. Roger while strong musically can be a bit dry like Lennon and Gilmour a bit soft at times like McCartney. Together they sound perfect! Interestingly (and probably no coincidence, I think Roger may have figured this out!) Roger’s new record with the very mellow, talented, warm touch of Jonathan Wilson (looking a bit like a young Gilmour at first glance)creates a nice balance. After PF Waters has played with greatness like Jeff Beck and Clapton and while good it wasn’t up to Floyd standard. The new record to me is of PF caliber.
Well anyhow, they are only human and you can see how Rogers talents and vision were a force of their own. How could a creative force that strong be contained!? He couldn’t. And good for the others for standing their ground. Ironically the Waters show made me appreciate Gilmour ( and of course Roger and all the band) even more. I say bless them all and they should do what makes them happy! I’m thankful for what they have done and are doing. They all seem to live up to the message in their music doing lots of charity work and promoting peace.
The Us and Them show really was just WOW. The message, the medium , the music. Roger is a kind (listen to the lyrics on his new record! OMG!) lovely man who is undeniably genius. I think Dave is too in his own way. Sometimes its not the quantity but the quality of contributions. Ever had a soup without seasoning?! Small things can make a big difference.
I heard Roger’s US & Them Tour was an awesome show although I heard that some of the Trump fanatics couldn’t handle “Pigs 3 Different Ones”. lol Unfortunately, I had some sick parents at the time and was unable to attend. (The closest he came to me was a 4 hour drive.) However, the video clips really make me wish I was there (pardon the pun). I only hope that Gilmour will do a final tour where 80% of the material is classic Pink Floyd. As for a Waters-Gilmour reunion, I’d love to see them do a final tour together. However, I can’t see them doing a final album together. They are too old, too different, and would kill each other fighting in the studio. :)
I have been alloys fan since animals( I am 58 this year) and admired the genius behind the music. Roger is a great writer but as you said Gilmour made the magic. I know they are gonna celebrate 50 years of Floyd but I don’t see the children playing nicely and it will be a shame I won’t see them together again
In my mind, what far too many Floyd fans fail to realise, is that Pink Floyd was NEVER about the individual band members. Floyd was never about a “Mick Jagger or John Lennon” type of band. It was all about the music and what the music made us feel. End of story. “Fans” saying Floyd post Waters era is fake Floyd is just pure nonsense! If we wanna follow these mindsets, Floyd post Syd era, is also not the true Pink Floyd. How can people even think such crap out loud?!? Floyd was doing fine after Syd got mad. And Floyd did just fine after Waters left the band. Some like Syd`s era the most…some like the 70`s era, and some like the post Waters era the best. It`s all about taste and it is ALL Pink Floyd. Nothing of it is fake or a forgery. Personally I like the DSOTM and WYWH era the most. It has a magical feel to it, because of the perfect blend between Waters lyrics and Dave & Ricks music and melodies. But Division Bell is probably my favourite album. Throw away all knowledge of wich band member I like the most and who did what on this and that, that album is just wonderful musically. High Hopes and Marooned are probably some of Floyds best tunes.
But this thread is about the individuals after all ;) So I`m just gonna put in my two cents on the matter. Just a couple of facts I need to adress:
Roger Waters left Pink Floyd on his own damn free will. David, Nick or Rick didn`t have anything to do with that. Waters thought HE was Pink Floyd. Fact: He never was. He was only a part of Pink Floyd. 1/4th infact. If Roger would have stayed in the band, none of this hatred crap that followed for years would have happened. That is Warer`s fault. Period! Waters had NO rights to decide when Floyd was to be declared finnished.
I have read a ton of interviews from almost every singel person involved with producing an album with the Floyds, and every singel one of them says exactly the same, about how Waters forcefully grabbed control of the band and making it almost impossible to contribute anything creative to the records post the Animals album.
People calling Momentary Lapse a forgery? Divison bell is just a fake Floyd rehash of the same old Floyd formula? Well…by that mindset, then Shine on must be a fake carbon copy of Echoes? Or the song Mother, a dreadful fake formula copy of Wish You Were Here? Why isn`t anybody saying that??
Fact is, all of the shit that happened since the band fell apart in the 70`s was Roger`s fault. None of it would have happened if he didn`t go “Stalin” on the band. Read interviews from Alan Parker and Bob Ezrin to get more insight on how that story really was.
Fact is, Gilmour and Wright made Floyd sound like Pink Floyd. Everything Roger did alone, after the Wall sounded like a great band trying to sound like Pink Floyd. But it still feels like a cover band. I attended both Roger`s the Wall shows here in Norway, it it was spectacular! It was awesome, and it floored me! I love Roger`s work. I admire his writings, but he is not Mr.Pink Floyd by himself alone. David on the other hand, has always sounded more Floydìsh. It feels natural. It doesn`t feel forced or fake. I can not really put my finger on it, but it feels authentic.
Imagine the Water`s Pros and Cons album under the Pink Floyd name. Think it would have had The Walls popularity and legendary status? I think not. It is a mess of an album. No real structure musically and lyrically. And I feel the same way about Amused to death. I love Roger`s lyrics on it, and I really love bits and pieces of the muical parts on it, but it drags on for too long. It`s too much about the concept and the words, Too much sound effects and background noises. It doesn`t feel as structurally impressive as The Wall. And in my mind that is what Warers lacks. He is all about the grand scheme and the big crazy ideas, and not too interested in the music and the melodies. If I wanna read poems or a great story, I buy a book. If I wanna listen to music, I sit down listening to a record. You can take away lyrics and still call it music, but you can not take away the music and still call it a song. There should always be a balance between the lyrics and the music. That is why DSOTM and WYWH are the two most iconic Floyd albums of all time. It was the perfect blend.
Craig James says:
Waters has ALWAYS been overrated …………..he hasn’t been able to put out a single – single that is listenable without Gilmour and Wright.
Ray Stoll says:
May I comment?
ive seen both seperately several times and i can say that both are great solo, but together they are the best band ever assembled. Its one of those yin and yang things. Maybe one day I will get to see them play a full show together. I was 6 the last time they toured and i think they owe it to their legion of younger fans to bury the hatchet and do one last tour together. Perhaps a 40th anniversary Animals tour? I think its the best album ever made.
John L. Fletcher says:
I think you make a terrific comment, BUT, your conclusory remarks are disappointing. Without Gilmour, Wright and Mason, there is NO PINK FLOYD, period. Roger cannot carry that on his shoulders no matter how great a writer he was. Without G, W &M, Waters is another Bob Dylan. I love Roger AND David and don’t really care who is the better known (Roger for touring the Wall solo for so long…). Without both of them and the other two, there is no PF.
PinkRules says:
Waters=good lyrics
Gilmour=good tune
That’s what I think
Jon Rogers says:
Wow, long thread. in my little opinion, I have to go back to the beginning. Waters is a lyrical genius (notably inspired by Syd Barrett) Since his writing style was developed when he had to take over the job of song writer for a band that already had a style and a following that Barrett created. When his songwriting took shape he was definitely the better songwriter. His lyrics were colored with depth and emotions. He painted pictures with words. However equally notable is the dramatic change that happened as Gilmour became more of a contributor. Gilmour is the better musician. His guitar work changed the band. He took the basic elements of a song and created the brilliant landscapes for the words. And it is impossible to leave Wright or Mason out, they carried the original psychedelic theme of the band through the transition from the PF of the 60’s to what became the PF that left its mark on the world. They provided the canvas and gave the music its theme.
I believe it is the perfect combination of personalities, talents, events and influences that created the sound. It was the frustrating battle of egos forced to work together as a band that created the atmosphere. Finally it was the collective genius of Waters ideas and lyrics with Gilmours musical talent, mixed with Barretts legacy, an ever-present influence that resulted in some of the best music ever recorded. In the end they are both great. But none of them could ever capture the magic of Pink Floyd without the other. Sadly for all of us who love their music, Pink Floyd died with Richard Wright. Although he gets less credit, he was the original member that tied all of these things together.
Michael Connelly says:
Get a grip folks!! We have had the best of both worlds for a long time.
Roger Waters was the main lyricist and driving force of the band and Gilmour and Wright were the sound of Pink Floyd ( inc Mason )!! Let’s not forget it was Roger’s decision to leave the band publicly in 1985 and Gilmour and Mason decided to continue with the band,there is no doubt that Roger’s lyrics and driving force were pivotal to the band from Meddle to The Wall ( but the input from Gilmour, Mason and Wright were just as important, granted Wright did not contribute much on Animals or The Wall ). The combination of all 4 members WERE the sound of Pink Floyd. Sure The Final Cut was a Water’s solo album, sure A Momentary Lapse Of Reason was a Gilmour solo album, but we should be glad to have them both! These albums from another band would be hailed as a classic or very good ( but admittedly not to the highest standard of the band, but very good nonetheless). I have to say that Amused To Death is a personal favourite of mine as is On An Island, sure About Face and Radio Kaos sound dated and they are 80’s sounding albums, but tell me is that a bad thing?
I say this to you all, be thankful of the body of work created by the band over the last 50 years ( inc The Endless River ). I am eternally greatful to Syd Barrett, Roger Waters, David Gilmour, Richard Wright & Nick Mason with providing me with the best music which has been with me through my life’s journey and all the memories of Floyd concerts and solo tours over the years, long live Pink Floyd!!!
Endre Knutsen says:
Amen! Well written :)
John Lorenzo says:
I agree, very well written. Thank you, I feel the same.
KAOS83 says:
You have summed this up “Perfectly”!! I have been a Huge Pink Floyd Fan for over 40 years, I always liked the whole Band, but when it came down to picking a member as my favorite, it was always Syd, then Roger as my favorites. Once the Final Cut was finished, which I didn’t like instantly, but grew to like as I listened….well, other than about 3 Songs that I considered instantly “Catchy”…..even when the Fighting began, went public, I had been on Waters side so much in my young years, that I just naturally went with him……But, as I’ve aged, and have looked at things with a more Mature and Understanding Mind, I can see that Dave Gilmour really did “Shape, Put it All Together-Musically etc….even playing Roger’s Bass Lines so many times……David just was really much more the “Pink” in Pink Floyd, that I always presumed was Waters. It comes down to, I don’t care so much in the arguments, who wrote this, or that, or the most…..but rather what the Finished Product “Sounds Like”!! And David Gilmour’s Solo Works, as well as Pink Floyd without Roger, led by Dave, sounds so much More like “Pink Floyd” than anything that Roger has written in his Solo works…..and when either of them, with their respective Bands, has gone out and played the Pink Floyd Material, David Gilmour’s Work always sound Way more like Pink Floyd!! Not even close!! It’s amazing that David has had so much more to do with the Overall Sound of Pink Floyd, that goes under the Radar by casual fans…Roger knows this is True too, and that was killing his Huge Ego all these years…..But I have truly come to be honest with myself, and see for myself just how much so David Gilmour made up of Pink Floyd….Vocally…..Musically…..and Pulling it all Together for that Perfect Sound….that he and Roger wanted!! And also how much of a role Rick Wright had in the Pink Floyd sound so much Input musically also….till Roger kinda worked him out of it all…..David being so much more Humble, and Gentleman made it so much easier for the Remaining Members of the Floyd to Go at it Together, and Rightfully go on as intended as “Pink Floyd”!!! I am so Happy and Grateful that they did!!! Amazing Albums that they put out Together!! I still like Roger, but he’s not all or what I had believed he was, in my younger days……….
Waw, i still can’t believe i’ve manage to read all posts. I must admit while the actual (mature) discussion of this is fun, i was getting really fed up with a lot of the childish, Roger fanboy worship like and uninformed attitude on some of the posters here, but i’ve made it thru.
I’m not even going to get into the discussion itself as it’s been discussed to death and with a lot of great arguments.
All i can say for my personal experience is, i first got into PF in the 80’s, my first record was the Delicate Sound of Thunder (vinyl) witch i still have and love. I’ve must have played that record hundreds of times. So for a long time that WAS the PF sound. Songs like “Learning to Fly”, “On the Turning Away”, and “Sorrow” will forever stay with me. Than came the Division Bell and Pulse, witch i also loved but feel it lacked a bit of the energy of DSOT.
I new a bit of the story of Roger at the time, but for me back then he was just a bass player, so i didn’t understand what all the fuss was about him leaving, they still sounding amazing,
Only years later i’ve started to listen to the earlier records and really started to understand the massive contribution Roger had given to the band, as well as David’s and Rick’s, and actually understanding what they where about.
So i guess the period that you where first exposed to PF has a lot of influence on what period you prefer.
I personalty love all of PF eras, SYD era, Waters era and post Waters era. As much as i love all the 70’s records i cant imagine a Floyd without some songs from AMLOR and TDB.
And i prefer the Shine On played on the 80’s and 90’s to the versions played on the 70’s, as much of a blasphemy that may seem to some.
All this being said for me is shocking to read some comments about Gilmour saying “all he did was make the solos, or the arrangements or whatever…”
All he did..????? And you think that’s nothing compared to Roger part??? What is it with some people and lyrics? Yes Roger made most of the lyrics and they are great, but the biggest part of the Floyd “sound” was David and Rick.
They have all contributed equally for what was PF, each one on what they did best, Roger with lyrics and ideas and Dave and Rick with music and arrangements, both things equally important.
As a musician myself i will take a song with weak lyrics and great music over a song with great lyrics and poor music any time. I liked Roger’s In the flesh gigs, but i would’t take it over Pulse or DSOT by any means.
So there you have another opinion, to prove that apart from actual facts, taste is always subjective and there are no wrights or wrongs.
What is a song without music? A poem. I grew up in the 70’s and the first PF album I bought was DSOTM. Loved it! Thought it was amazing. Also, loved WYWH and Animals. At that time, I thought the world revolved around Roger Waters although I recognized the importance of Gilmour and Wright. Then “The Wall Came Out” and this was where the music began secondary to the lyrics and the concept. IMO, it should have never been a double album. Half of the songs on The Wall were great (ie all of the Gilmour tunes). As for the remaining songs, I thought most of them were good to ok, but some of them just SUCKED. I can’t stand the music in “Vera”, “Bring The Boys Back”, “Waiting for The Worms”, and “Outside the Wall”. I thought these songs sounded nothing like Pink Floyd. I thought they sounded like were written by some crooner from the 50’s. Then the Final Cut came out and I cried. To this day, I won’t listen to it. IMO, it sounds nothing like the Pink Floyd or the Roger Waters I once adored. It seems like Roger’s musical taste changed considerably during The Wall and drastically during The Final Cut. I realize that things must change and that progressive rock was on its way out when The Wall was released, but Roger’s music began to sound old and dated. So when Roger left the band, I was happy. When Roger said Pink Floyd was a spent force, I think he was talking about himself. However, that doesn’t erase the outstanding contributions he made to the band in the 70’s. Pink Floyd was a great band and a great band is more than a single part, or for that matter, the sum of its parts.
fred quin says:
Pink Floyd is over and there is no more.
All there is now, is what was.
“Double bass drums on Shine On” “Since 85”
Dude, he didn’t even play Shine On until 99, and I seem to recall his drummer, Graham Broad, as only having ONE bass drum. Nick Mason on the other hand uses two. And I’d hardly label the playing of Eric Clapton, Snowy White, Andy Fairweather-Low or Jeff Beck as “endless Van Halen wanking”.
Also, judging his playing and version of things by the quality of a bootleg? Really? Go listen to a live Gilmour bootleg from 85 and tell me it’s any better.
Not bashing Gilmour, but this is a bit skewed.
Bjorn, who played the fretless bassline on Hey You? I assume that Roger didn’t do a lot of the bass on the albums, but that’s such a great fretless line, I wondered if it was him, David, or someone Bob Ezrin chose?
PS, Bob Ezrin did such an awesome job with the guitars of Steve Hunter, and Dick Wagner on the live album, “The Alice Cooper Show”. Have you heard the album? Possibly the best sounding live album I’ve heard production wise. Also the same two guitarists on Lou Reeds Rock ‘N’ Roll Animal! Also Ezrin produced.
[That’s Gilmour :) He played a Charvel fretless P-bass I think. – Bjorn]
To clarify my point, IMO, most older fans prefer the Pink Floyd that existed from Animals, back to Arnold Layne. And my personal experience shows that after the ’77 tour, they became a completely different band. In ’77, they were exactly what I expected, and more, in ’88, I really didn’t get it, but in ’94, because the set was mostly Roger era material, the show itself was a spectacle to behold, with many musicians of great talent, and a gazzilion dollar stage show, one couldn’t help but enjoy it. However, it didn’t hold a candle to Tampa ’77, and the Animals tour. A horse of an entirely different color, with the same name. A great band? Oh yes!, Pink Floyd, by no means the Floyd I grew up with. I will say no more on the subject, but would love to hear the opinions of those lucky enough to have seen both eras.
Peace, Love, and Pinks,( Three Different Ones!)
[Well, one can always argue that a band was better in a certain period but this will almost always be a subjective perspective. Our experience and perception of music, and art in general, is very often tied to a specific point in our lives. Pink Floyd’s career span over 40 years and both them as a band and we, as the listener, will change over that period. I think this is important to keep in mind when music is discussed. It’s not just the case of whether or not a band changes but also if you have changed. And you certainly have. This is also why younger people will have a stronger relationship to their later catalogue then people who discovered them in the early days. – Bjorn]
@Stephen, regardless of our differences off the playing field, you hit the nail squarely on the head with your post.
Peace, and forgiveness, Keith
I don’t think bad mouthing any of these talented men is of any value either. However, for us older Floyd fans, IMO the band stopped being Pink Floyd the minute Roger kicked Rick out. Everything recorded by either camp since Animals has been a mere shadow of a once great band. I get that most born after around ’79 love mlor, and db, and fc, but other than a handful of songs on all of those albums put together, there’s not much Pink Floyd about them. I saw the Animals tour in Tampa, Fla in ’77, MLOR in ’88, and DB in ’94, both at RFK, and while the DB tour was very good,( almost all old material), the ’88 show I didn’t recognize a song, and compared to Tampa, both shows didn’t come close to the magic of that! It’s like comoaring Meddle, or WYWH, to MLOR! There us no comparison!!!
But I don’t disparage either camp, but to me, Floyd ceased to exist in a slow, steady fashion between ’77, and ’80.
Peace all, Keith
Why can’t people just love every single floyd version and love every single member of the band like I do? I LOVE syd barret floyd, I love everything after syd left, from saucer full to the final cut, then from momentary to division bell and I’m going to love The Endless River! I love Pink Floyd regardless of the version. Each member was brilliant in their own way, btw Rog, Gilmour is not a liar he is a straight forward person and he had every right to use the band name. If you think of Gilmour in such a way, why are you on a site dedicated to him? Sorry Bjorn I just had to put my 2 cents in. Lol You’ll never hear me bad mouth any of the members.
@ Leftwhinge
It is not a question of members changing but who has influence on the writing of the music. When David hires on other performers today they are not there to be an equal part of the decision making in the musical creation. They are paid musicians to come and fulfill the musical desires of one person David Gilmour, therefore they are merely an extension off of 1 creator. Pink Floyd had already gone through a transition when Syd left, getting David on board was an amazing stroke of luck but at that point they all were working as a team to create one sound together. Even when one took the lead as with the Wall and Final Cut there was still stylistic and creative input from the others in the band.
If David were to find new members and give the new members equal say in the new direction of the music it would certainly undergo another evolution (perhaps better perhaps worse subjectively speaking). As for now I prefer to look at post Waters Pink Floyd as “David and Friends” as it is primarily Davids solo work, some of which Wright and Mason were a part of. In this way I find that Floyd has stagnated as there is no longer give and take between creative forces but just one persons vision. David is certainly one of the greats in rock history but he was made great by being part of the Floyd as well. Without the history of Syd and the writing duo of Waters and Gilmour he perhaps would never have made it to such an elevated status. It is pointless to argue since we can not know paths which were not taken but certainly Roger was a key stone in the sound of Floyd as was Gilmour, Wright and Mason.
In short. David hiring other performers is not any where near to the same idea as Syd being replaced as Syd was replaced in a way that all musicians still held creative license in the music and by chance these 4 musicians created something far greater than any one of them could have created on their own.
Carolyn, let’s get dinner.
I have a lot more respect now for Roger’s Pink Floyd imput, and Roger himself. However, from almost the very begining of Pf i fell in love with David Gilmour’s music; soulful playing, sound and voice. Also, though maybe it is irrelevent, his person. He is as fine a man as they come. Yes, i became a fan of PF, because of David or i may never have become a fan at all ??? To me, PF is David Gilmour. Never forgetting Roger, Richard, Nick or Syd. Take Care xx
Rog says:
By the way, they even put balls to the inflatable pig so that they could use it. Talking about sincere artists.
I think there’s no discussion that Roger was the one who wrote most of the songs. To say that he didn’t give credit to the others is ridiculous. Why should anyone give credit for a song that he wrote himself. I have seen in one of the above posts that since Roger didn t write the keyboard and the guitar parts for some songs, these should have been credited to the other members. It is clear to me that you have no idea how songwriting credits work. If the guy came up with the chords, melody and lyrics that s enough to grant him a writing credit. Gilmour apart from the few songs he co-wrote with Roger, only wrote the solos and arranged the songs so why should Waters have given him a writing credit? Songwriters needs musicians or session men to shape up their songs but it doesn t mean that they have to give them credit for the writing of the song when all they did is arranging it. I think the credits on the Pink Floyd’s albums are true. It’s Gilmour who has been going around, ever since they broke up, spreading this nonsense and contradicting many of his interviews of the late 70s and early 80s where he was saying that Roger was the one who wrote most of the songs. So in 87, he went to great lengths to discredit Roger’s massive contributions and work in the band by spreading lies when he has always admitted himself that he was never the most prolific of songwriters. Take Dark side of the Moon. He only has 3 songwriting credits. All he did was playing well and writing good solos, that’s it. The two post-waters albums have few great tunes and the majority of the songs lack substance and edge. They are really dull. Nothing happens really. The only one that stands out is High Hopes. But i am starting to understand that only people who really know about music can really see through that. It’s the same with Gilmour’s solo albums. They are overrated. Firstly, they don’t sound at all like Pink Floyd, reinforcing the fact that he wasn’t the one writing the songs in the band. On an island for instance, it’s made up for the majority of the same boring, repetitive instrumentals that go to highlight once again Gilmour’s poor attempt to try to write decent songs and the fact that he is only a great guitar player, period. He is not able to write a complete album of songs that are not instrumental. He is a great guitar player and arranger but in the songwriting department his songs are below standard. No wonder good critics have slashed A momentary Lapse and The Division Bell. Even Comfortably Numb that many people largely associate to him, wouldn’t have become the popular hit that it is today hadn’t been for Roger’s verse and last line contribution. It would have probably ended up on one Gilmour’s solo albums as an i strumental or third-rate song. Lastly, if anybody dare to compare Gilmour’s to Water’s solo albums, i cannot but develop a feeling of animosity towards them. There is no comparison to be made. Roger is on a league of its own. He has wandered and experimented with different genres spicing up his career. Radio Kaos is a great concept album regardless of what people say. Even critics are starting to appreciate it lately. On the other hand, Gilmour’s has stuck to the same monotonous, meandering and uninteresting tunes. His style has become flat. The Endless river is another example of this. Unfortunately, by using the brand name Pink Floyd in the eighties he has managed to lie and convince people that he did more than he s credited for which is bullshit. His solo albums are a reflection of that. As far as the live concerts are concerned, i can say that Gilmour’s are more precise because he has a better voice and he is a better musician but they are not better. Roger Waters In the Flesh is far more encompassing, deep and moving than Pulse. Pulse is emotionless. Plus, there are some songs like Money that are slightly different in rythm from the original. Badly played. Roger was right in an interview: as long people recognize the tunes and see a lot of lights, they are ok. The magic was missing. Why the magic was missing? because the men who wrote most of the songs wasn’t there!!!
[Well, who’s to credit on a song is as much politics as anything else. Especially when you sell 30mill+++ albums. These are the facts: Syd wrote most of Piper, with both Roger and Rick contributing. Pink Floyd, all four members, should be credited more or less equally for the period between 1968-71. Then, in early 1972 Roger wrote Eclipse, which would later evolve into Dark Side of the Moon. From there on, up to Final Cut, he contributed with the concepts, main song structures and lyrics (with a very few exceptions). Rick and David was very much involved musically with Dark Side and WYWH, partially with Animals and very little with Wall and Aninmals. As I see it, Animals is the last true Floyd album. Wall is mostly Waters and Ezrin, while Final Cut is purely a Waters/Kamen project.
Different bands have different ways of crediting the songs. Who writes the lyrics is often pretty obvious, while the music is in most cases a collaboration. Although one might have provided the main chords and perhaps a structure, it’s often the case of several of the band members contributing to actually arranging the song and adding their sound and playing to the final piece. When money is involved, credits are also subjected to who benefits the most. No doubt that many bands have fought over who’s gonna get credit for what. There are no clear lines or rules and it’s often hard to point out who did what. What is writing and arranging and what is just contributing with your own playing?
In the case of Floyd, there’s no doubt that both Rick and David had an important role in shaping and arranging Roger’s ideas into what ended up on the albums. They were the soul of the band, musically, while he had the ideas and lyrics. Again, Dark Side, WYWH and Animals are as much David and Rick as they are Roger. Wall and Final Cut is something else. I think you’re wrong in comparing these albums to Floyd’s latter work and David’s solo albums. David is nor Roger. Nor is he Floyd. He’s first solo album and Island is deliberately something different because he wanted to do something different. About Face is more of a record company thing… different story. Momentary and Division Bell can’t be compared to the 70s Floyd because, yes Roger wasn’t involved, but don’t be fooled into thinking that they would have made something as brilliant as Dark Side and WYWH with him. Roger is a different person now and besides, you can hardly call Pros and Cons, Radio Kaos or any of the newer songs he’s come up with, brilliant. Pink Floyd had their heydays in the 70s. That’s gone and will never happen again. It was the joint collaboration of Roger, David, Rick and Nick and not just one person alone. – Bjorn]
John Allen says:
I would say David has pretty much caught up with Roger on writing songs for Pink Floyd. He has 3 albums under the Pink Floyd banner that Roger has no credits because he quit. Plus they each have 4 solo albums of which Dave has the better albums by far. He outsells Rogers solo stuff. Now if Roger is so much more well known than Dave then that speaks volumes. The Pink Floyd fans have spoken.
Wow! So many years and still taking comments. Nice one.
Didn’t read it all but a lot of it. Amazing the reaction you can get from people. As for me, It was their solid working together that really amazed me and what I believe helped draw out their almost musical perfection. The some of the parts can never equal the sum of the whole. Honestly, I think I side just a bit towards the Roger side of the camp, but most likely because I feel he really got the screws put too him. He had a desire to work after, DSOTM, and the other lads simply didn’t. Gilmour admitting in an interview that they just “lazily gave up control.” Also, knowing that Gilmour just wanted to put the two Animals songs they had with WYWH and call it good cuts into me a bit deep. I’m glad roger stood his ground because it gave us two great albums. Animals being my favorite.
So right. I look at the Pompeii video as their pinnacle time. Solid teamwork. All four of them. Just doesn’t get any better than that era. Echoes Part 1 is effing rock n roll. I have blown many people away just playing that ten minutes. Always quiets the room. Somehow makes it smell funny too.
Peace Jason, Bjork
Wow. I read pretty much that whole thing. Might put that on my resume/CV. Ha!
I’m not gonna start the discussion again, but I will say that it took ALL of them together to truly be Floyd. I’ve enjoyed pretty much everything ever put out under the Pink Floyd name, but as much as I enjoy Animals and The Wall, I really agree with someone earlier (farther up I should say) who said that The Wall is WAY overplayed on the radio. I listen to it all the way through MAYBE once a year and am tired of it after that.
For my money, when I CRAVE Floyd, it’s Pompeii through Wish You Were Here. Wish You Were Here is amazing and Dark Side will always have THAT sound, but honestly, I’ve gotten to the point in recent months where Pompeii is my go-to Floyd. It’s just got SUCH a cool sound and location (where you can just HEAR the sounds decaying into the wind instead reverbing around a studio) and they were all young and just IN it, you know? Pompeii is musical perfection as far as I’m concerned.
Also, I had a thought… Everytime someone named David chimed in on this thread and “sided with Gilmour” on the debate, I almost wonder if it was Mr. Gilmour himself venting after 30+ years anonymously since he can’t really talk to Waters anymore. Hahaha.
Oh, and on a side note, have you ever demoed the Wampler Velvet Fuzz? I kinda like it, but something about it sounds too “produced” (like comparing a Boss pedal to something boutique and hand-made).
Awesome site as always Bjorn!
[Thanks for reviving the discussion. To be honest, the Velvet Fuzz was a disappointment… to me at least. It falls a bit between a fuzz and distortion. Too dark and hard to figure out. – Bjorn]
@Mick G I know what you mean. But mind you, the guitar solos were NOT what made “Money” successful on the mainstream. In fact, solos hardly ever do. Well, who wrote the solo for Brick II? Still, that’s not the reason why it was such a successful song. Guitar solos are hardly enough to make a song’s popularity (Comfortably Numb and Sweet Child O’Mine notwithstading)
Regarding the discussion, specially what Bjorn and Leftwhinge have brought up: I think in order to determine what something is and what it is not, we have to analyze what elements are involved (I think someone already mentioned this above, not sure).
I imagine it as sort of a household: a father, a mother and two kids. If the mother dies, the family does not stop being a family. But it changes. And even if the father remarries, things won’t be the same again. It might be better, it might be worse (or rather, it might be better for some, worse for others)… the only thing one can be sure of is that it won’t be the same. One of the fundamental elements is not there anymore, it can’t possibly remain the same entity. That’s sort of what happens to bands.
My gripe with Waters-less Floyd is how much it “feels” different. You know, all Floyd albums do sound different, but Saucerful-Animals have something about them, a certain familiar feel that neither subsequent albums have. Things changed, of course. And like the family who lost the mother, that’s not objectively better or worse, but it’s certainly different. And this is where I have to agree with Bjorn: the fact that I prefer 1969-1977 Floyd says more about me than about he band. They were better during that time – for me. Someone else might have an entirely different opinion. One of my best friends, for example, says Division Bell it his favourite album of all time(!). Of course I mock him for that and find it to be completely absurd in my mind. But perhaps I shouldn’t. After all, I don’t know which kinds of experiences he had with the Floyd and what Division bell means to him; I only know the ones I did, and what it means to me. It’s quite interesting to notice how that applies not only to music, but life in general: we despise and mock people for a number of reasons, yet they all have their own reasons for it – reasons as valid as the ones we have for mocking them. Perhaps understanding that is the real meaning of “tolerance”.
Regarding Richard… it’s a sad thing, but I agree with Bjorn’s reply to Pete above: his lack of input was startling from Animals on, and I don’t think that’s a consequence of Roger’s takeover, quite the opposite: I think it was one of the causes of it. It seems to me Richard was the first of the four to lose interest in making music, which is a shame considering the guy’s potential. So, when I say Pink Floyd was only TRULY Floyd from Saucerful to Animals, in reality what I should be saying is that that is “My” Pink Floyd, and I’m not so fond of the “other” Floyds.
So, what’s your Floyd?
leftwhinge says:
Yes I agree that bands evolve and that was the point I was making in response to an earlier comment. But while bands evolve, the evolution is very organic and I guess that is what some people have a problem with.
As opposed to it sounding “less floyd”, a lot of fans at that time felt that the sound and lyrics of were manufactured to sound like the Floyd of the 70’s by an entire machinery. I think Roger himself famously called it a clever “Forgery”. But that aside, I think as band members for over a decade and a half, Gilmour and Mason had every right to decide the direction of the band.
So far as music being a commodity is concerned, I don’t think paying for something in itself makes it a commodity. Every artistic creation, object, product or material has an intrinsic value. But the price you pay for it depends on external factors. According to me, these extraneous variables vis a vis, its intrinsic value is what makes something a commodity.
And the point I was trying to make in this context is that as fans we stop evaluating something for its intrinsic value and are blinded by extraneous variables – namely legacy, brand, loyalty and so on.
As an afterthought…I think that once bands / artists or entities become massive like Pink Floyd, they take on a very corporate nature. There are a lot of people whose well being depends on the survival of the entity. And sometimes the rightful owners of entities like this are not the people who sit at the top but people who are responsible for the day to day functioning of the entity.
In Pink Floyd’s case, it was perhaps the fans because as debatable an album as A Momentary Lapse of Reason was, it was commercially successful when compared to Radio K.A.O.S. So one can argue that although Waters thought that the band was finished, the brand still had plenty of life in it.
At what point we stop becoming fans and become consumers of a brand is the big question.
[Well, as long as bands aren’t making music for free, then we are consumers but I get your point. Final Cut was released with the Pink Floyd name because of financial issues. Momentary Lapse of Reason was a perhaps more of a band album but they took a huge risk and brought on a team that made the album sound less Floyd but perhaps made it more agreable with the fans and criticts. It’s also a fact that the attempt at making Gilmour into a guitar hero and star with About Face bombed so bad that neither he nor the record company dared to issue a new solo album. – Bjorn]
@Operario & Keith
A lot of sense in what each of you said…Also it is heartening to note that Floyd have transcended generations and genres and all such. The younger fans have are just as much important if not more to the legacy of Floyd. And that is why it is probably necessary to not categorise Pink Floyd into Gilmour and Waters’ camps. Although, the members themselves have tried to do the same.
But the one idea which I have trouble comprehending is who or what a band is. While there are merits in arguments about Floyd not being Floyd after Animals, a point of view which I held at one time, I am less sure now. Particularly, because Pink Floyd had their big successes after Syd left. To many Syd was Pink Floyd and there was a marked change in the band’s musical direction after his departure.
So if Gilmour replaced Syd, why can’t an array of musicians come together as was the case when Waters left and be true to the legacy, philosophy and music of the band. I say this because despite releasing two studio albums, much of the Gilmour led floyd’s live material was made up of racks from the Waters era. And the arrangement was more or less the same although an entire entourage was involved.
[You raise a good point here – “what is a band”. A band is obviously a given number of musicians that have formed a unity making music together. Pink Floyd is no longer a band. They were. David Gilmour and Roger Waters are both solo artists but they have a live band which helps them to realize their music. A band can also be together for other more political reasons. Pink Floyd was a band in the traditional sense during The Wall because in spite of all the turmoil, everyone was writing and arranging together and not just Roger. Pink Floyd was not a band in the traditional sense during Final Cut. It was and have always been a Roger Waters solo album but due to financial issues and a pushing record company, the album was relased with the Pink Floyd banner, with David and Nick pitching in. Pink Floyd was technically a duo during Momentary, although Rick contributed with the writing (and later became a full time member). Pink Floyd during Division Bell was a band consisting of David, Nick and Rick.
My point is, a band won’t be the same band forever. Members will quit and new will join. Founding members might change and want to persuit other ways of writing music. We all change and although some would have wanted Pink Floyd to still be making Saucerful or Animals, it would be very limiting for an artist and certainly not an artist that evolves, learn and challenges him self. It’s natural for a band that has lasted over several years to change and fans will come and go. I think it says more about the fans than the band, when one claim that “they were better 20 years ago”. Of course they were, becuase that’s when you discovered them (or perhaps that was the first album you heard years later) and you have all sorts of memories and affections linked to that time and music. That’s what music does but the band continues to change because the members aren’t static figures in a painting or an illusion you created.
Pink Floyd is just a name and although some of the members were in the band from the start, Pink Floyd during Division Bell is not the same band as it was during Piper… and not just because Syd wasn’t there but for the reasons mentioned above. – Bjorn]
Mick G says:
Operario – who do think wrote the soloes
for Money, David or Roger?
As I have been reading the comments, I notice that many people feel that Animals was a cut off point for classic Pink Floyd.
Many of those songs were written before WYWH and almost made it on that album. (Another classic argument between Waters and Gilmour.) It should be noted that after WYWH, that Richards
musical input into the band dropped to nil. Not because of other members of the band, but because of documented personal problems.
This caused a lot of problems in the band. Roger wanted to get rid of Richard before The Wall and David fought for him. He eventually lost the fight for Final Cut.
So if those albums seem different, note that Richard was not contributing as he had in the past. Roger, being Roger, stepped in to fill the void, and just took over. That’s why those albums are so focused on his songs.
Roger actually presented tapes to the band for a new album back in 1978, and the band voted on which one they were going to record. One of those tapes would become The Wall. The other would eventually become The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking.
So, to summarize, if Richard had kept his demons at bay and kept contributing, then who knows what would have been.
[Good point Pete. Wright’s contribution has always been overlooked in my opinion. Part of the reason is politics. Dividing credits for a song and album is a tricky part because it’s often down to money and contracts. It’s also very difficult to exactly tell who did what and what it was that made a certain song special. Roger might have brought the initial demo and the lyrics. David arranged the music, sang the song and put his signature guitar on it but without Rick’s keyboards, the song would have turned out quite differently. Did he contribute in the writing? Did he arrange? Hard to tell but his playing is crucial for many of the songs he didn’t actually get credit for – whether he deserved it or not. I see Rick as the glue. Between Roger and Gilmour’s writing and blues references, Rick had a more subtle approach perhaps but with a sense of melody and texture and he brought with him his jazz influences, which is evident on Obscured, Dark Side and WYWH in particular.
I do think Rick’s contribution on Animals is substansial but you’re right, at that point he wasn’t contributing much with the writing and although there are some very nice keyboard parts on the album it’s really not more than nice sounds. Wall and Final Cut are obviously different album because by that time, Roger had decided that he wanted to do other things that just write a new rock album. He brought on board producers and musicians that would help him take the music in a different direction and to realize his vision. While Pink Floyd was rooted in blues and jazz, guys like Bob Ezrin and Michael Kamen, who both did a huge job on those two albums, had a very different background and approach. It’s not just about Rick not being there but the intent of making somethig different. – Bjorn]
Aristotle said it best: “The whole is greater than the sum of it’s parts”. Musically, Pink Floyd was at it’s zenith between DSotM and Animals, when the band was the band. During that period, each of the band members performed astoundingly, and with a creativity that has rarely been seen, either before or since. Individually, none of the band members comprise the complete picture of what made PF great: Roger is the lyricist, and the music is not THE music without his bass lines. Gilmour is obviously the guitar, and the primary voice (although, he and Wright were both very good and sometimes hard to tell apart back in the day). Wright’s haunting keyboard work is definitely one of the cornerstones of the PF sound, and Mason’s drums are without equal during the heyday.
I must say that I enjoy Gilmour’s later individual work more than Waters’ (including the Water-less PF work); his subjects are not so angry and political, and his guitar work was and is a great influence to me personally. If he releases a new album, I’ll buy it. If I had answered the same question 25 years ago, I think Roger’s lyrics may have resonated more with me at that point in my life–but I can’t really say I’ve bought anything since Radio KAOS. That being said, neither Waters nor Gilmour, individually, are anywhere near the artists that they were when the four of them actually collaborated on the music.
Being almost 52, and a lifeling Floyd fan, I was lucky enough to see them three times, Tampa Florida, 1977, with Waters, on the Animals tour, and twice without Waters at the Washington DC shows at RFK, 80 something, and ’94 I think. There is no comparison between the experience of seeing the pre, and post Waters era Floyd, and while both RFK shows were a great spectacle of sight, and sound, both of the posters above, hit the nail squarely on the head. To younger fans, you may not think this way, and I can empathize, but to most people who are older, and grew up listening to the band, it is my opinion that they ceased to be Pink Floyd somewhere during that 1977 Animals tour, and became first, the Roger Waters band, and after the final cut, the David Gilmour band. Neither of which had the flavor of Floyd as a unit of Four men working toward a common goal. That is why I never listen to anything post Animals anymore, and never really listened to any of either bands offerings after the Wall got played into pop culutre hell. Suffice it to say, Roger was the writer, Gilmour the consumate melody maker, Mason the heartbeat, and Richard Wright the SOUL of what was Pink Floyd.
Just as an addendum, to me the question of “which one is Pink” has a very definitive answer: it was Richard Wright. He was the “musical genius” of the band, even outweighing Gilmour. It comes as no surprise to me that Floyd albums get progressively (hah!) less interesting the less involved Richard Wright is with the making of the music.
I recently listened to the entire The Wall album. I love it. I think it is a great progressive rock album, although not a good “Pink Floyd” album. But while I listened to it … the mesmerizing guitar in Brick I, the painful lyrics in Mother, One of My Turns and Nobody Home, the heavy yet soulful guitar playing in Hey You and Comfortably Numb… and while I thought it was all very good, I couldn’t help but find my mind drifting away and reminiscing about the “Ascension” part of Echoes, the “Celestial Voices” section of Saucerful of Secrets, his “Turkish Delight” solos in Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun, the beautiful and peaceful Rhodes from Mudmen, the eerie Farfisa Organ in the intro of Time, the zenith of DSoTM with his playing on Eclipse, the beautiful texture of Hammond organ in Atom Heart Mother, upon which David Gilmour gently plays a lap steel solo… these things are almost entirely absent from The Wall on (slightly returning in Division Bell… but by then it was too little, too late)
These are the things that matter to me, and what music is: in the end, it is about how it makes you feel. And this might just be my personal opinion, but any of these momen speak more to me than any of Roger’s lyrics or Gilmour’s solos
@Leftwhinge
I’m 25. My first contact with the Floyd was via my father, who was a fan in the 70s and had some of the vinyls. By the time I got interested in music (around the age of 11 or 12), he only had the Pulse album though, which I thought was great. For a long time, that was all the Pink Floyd I knew. With the internet era (especially after 2004) I got to listen to the studio albums and am, right now, in a bootleg frenzy.
It almost pains me to say that, despite being a fan of David Gilmour’s musical contributions to the Floyd, I think Waters’ contribution was more… how can I say… “important”? It is no secret that Waters was the driving force in the band EVEN when they were actually functioning as, you know… a band. Roger wrote the overwhelming majority of the lyrics, Roger actually wrote the music to some of their most popular songs (including Money, which Mr. Gilmour himself acknowledged was what changed everything… “it was not DSoTM that changed things… it was ‘Money'”). To me it seems that out of the 4, Waters was the one who was most interested in actually making music… which seems even more evident after DSoTM…
After DSoTM, I believe the band members started drifting apart (even musically) and were more interested in enjoying their fortune and success (can’t blame them) than in making music. And I believe without Roger’s firm grip (which eventually evolved into and iron fist that would ultimately destroy the band), Pink Floyd might have ceased to exist right after DSoTM (maybe releasing one more album, but still…). To me, Waters’ talent was his ability to give the band a focus, to set a direction that I honestly doubt either of the other members would be able to set.
Of course, like I said earlier, Waters’ firm grip turned into a sort of “despotic rule” in the band, and he failed to realize that he did not have that much talent himself… thus the weakness of The Final Cut and his two first solo albums (Amused to Death is pretty good though).
On a side note, I absolutely despise dehydrated (Waters-less) Floyd. I’m going to quote Waters on this, because it sums up perfectly how I feel about it:
“I have nothing against Dave Gilmour furthering his own goals. It’s just the idea of Dave’s solo career masquerading as Pink Floyd that offends me!”
Penthouse Magazine, September, 1988
Boy, he couldn’t be more right. But he’s unable to see that Wall and Final Cut are also, essentially, “Waters’ solo career masquerading as Pink Floyd” Both Waters releasing said albums as Pink Floyd and Gilmour releasing MLOR and Division Bell as Pink Floyd are, to me, laughable travesties
So yes… to me, Pink Floyd only “truly” is “Pink Floyd” when it’s an album made by the four of them, or rather “mostly” made by the four of them. So, everything from Saucerful of Secrets to Animals = Floyd; Wall and Final Cut= Waters solo albums; MLOR and Divison Bell = Gilmour solo albums. Your mileave may vary, though.
Hope what I wrote made some sense =]
I would be interested in knowing the ages of most of the commentators here…I wonder if a lot of people here were first exposed to latter day Floyd i.e. A Momentary Lapse of Reason, The Division Bell and Pulse.
The reason I point this out is that David Gilmour had the full weight of Pink Floyd the brand behind him, while Waters went out day in, day out as Roger Waters the solo artist. In fact, Waters says that people hardly knew who he was without the Pink Floyd umbrella.
Gilmour will naturally sound more like Floyd than a Waters ensemble because he was the voice and guitar of the band. We also need to take into count that the Gilmour led Floyd was more an ensemble than a 4 piece band that Pink Floyd was. And a look at the musicians, lyricists and songwriting involved offers a major clue on who or what Pink Floyd was during that era. Still Pink Floyd though…
I have to say that I have been following this dispute for a long time and to me there’s been a lot of propaganda from either side but. But Waters has been isolated systematically and has had to constantly remind people of what his contributions have been and most importantly has had to do it without the safety net of the brand…
As a bottom line if you were to simply measure contributions of each Floyd member, Waters’ contribution musically, lyrically and thematically outweighs everyone else’s. However, I completely understand and acknowledge that Gilmour’s guitar hero status is pre-eminent amongst younger Pink Floyd fans. And mind you is fully deserved…
I wasn’t attempting to bringing theology into it Bjorn, I Iust get tired of,( insert artists name here) is God. Sorry.
[No worries at all Keith. I agree and being an atheist I don’t think neither God nor religion needs to be a part of this site. Music, in all its forms, and the friendship we have here is enough for us to share common ground… in my opinion :) – Bjorn]
Gilmour is a guitarist, God is God.
[I guess David can be a god to someone on the same level as any so-called divine force. But before we start, let the theology rest on this site guys :) Thanks! – Bjorn]
Gilmour is God
AGREED! Especially how the younger audience, and the proliferation of airplay that they enjoyed in the later period, would necessarily endear those records to that audience, and likewise, the days of the concept album had run their course. So change too was I suppose, a necessity.
I’ve never heard a Pink Floyd song that made me change the station, and that is unique in itself.
Peace, Love, And Gilmourish, THE POSTECUTIONER
[Yeah, no matter how many times you’ve heard those songs you always stop and listen when they’re on the radio :) – Bjorn]
You are spot on, and I was speaking rhetorically, and greatly enjoyed seeing them twice after Roger left, but in all reality,neither show was close to Tampa in ’77, the one time I got to see them with Roger. And not being a fan of the post Animals material, albeit with several exceptions on the Wall, and at least one or two songs on the following discs, I always felt that they were the same Pink Floyd on everything post Pipers, through Animals, but just changed their style almost every album. The Who was very similar in that respect, and I personally feel it’s because both bands had a tendency to write albums as a composer writes a symphony, with each song being just another movement in the whole, and that continued through the Wall, but after that, at least to me, they seemed to be just going through the motions, and the feeling was somehow lost. The last few albums certainly had a few of those moments of magic, that was almost all Pink Floyd, but it was no longer every song, seamlessly tying into the next to create a socio-political commentary, or in the case of the earlier material a land of fantasy, full of color, and strange themes, and creatures. To me, it began to seem more about the money, and fulfilling contracts, than making art like Animals, Echoes, and the record setting DSOTM. As always, this is merely my opinion, based on forty years of listening to one of musics most relevant, and lasting bands, who took music to the apex of music as an artform!
Peace, The Postecutioner
[Well, I agree and understand your point. In terms in how they wrote music, neither Momentary nor Bell followed the classic tradition but then again, both were made in a time when radio played a bigger role and concept albums weren’t that cool. I like both albums but they’re not like the old ones. Having said that, people who discovered Floyd during the 80s and 90s see those albums in a different light and appreciate them based on memories, association etc… which is what music and art often is all about. – Bjorn]
How has it been proven. While some may disagree, especially younger fans who weren’t born when the split started in ’76, the fact is, the last Oink Floyd album was ANIMALS, and nothing after it is a real Pink Floyd album. Without Roger, (and I saw the band before, and after Riger left.), there was definitely something missing, his creative vision, his voice, and his unique style of bass. After Roger left, there were two bands, the Roger Waters band, and the Gilmour/ Wright band. I think the truth is, neither should have been called PF, and many would say the band’s name should have changed when it’s founder, and the true genius Syd Barrett lost it. But to say there was a band Pink Floyd in anything other than name after Animals, is purely semantics, and and isn’t based in reality. IN MY OLD ASS OPINION!!!
THE POSTECUTIONER
[Well, yes… Pink Floyd after Animals changed. So it did after Syd, after Atom Heart, after Dark Side, after Momentary… Regardless of who’s in the band, the band is still Pink Floyd and a band that’s been in the game for 40 years will always change. We, the fans, have an affection for a certain period, album, member or sound but the band, it’s still Pink Floyd and it’s carrying the tradition, history and present status. If you ask me, I think that anyone saying that Floyd stopped being Floyd after Syd left, are fools. Of course it changed, but then again, you’d have an obscure band that released one album and that’s that. Floyd themselves wanted to call the quits after Dark Side, but then we wouldn’t have gotten WYWH and Animals. Roger wanted to do Wall alone but he understood that Pink Floyd was more than him – at least at that point. If he’d done it alone, we’d have a very tedious double album… Then Roger quit and David, Rick and Nick carried the torch. It wasn’t the same but then again, Roger’s 80s solo albums didn’t sound anything near Animals, Wall or Final Cut either. Why? Time, place and situation… One can’t expect one band to do the same thing over and over for 40 years… not counting Stones and AC/DC… :) – Bjorn]
You are right. The last OINK Floyd album was Animals!;-) Seriously, I like Meddle through the Wall the best. For me, the band literally lost it’s edge when Waters left. While the Wall was Waters baby, I still consider it Floyd myself. Gilmour’s contributions and the overall music was still magic. Not too much a fan of post Waters “Floyd” but there are a few good songs.. Like most of Waters post Floyd too, but not as much as Floyd….until his latest release in 2017. ITTLWRW is GOLD and delivers imho most of what I loved about Pink Floyd. No band stays in their Zenith forever. I am actually happy they put out as much as they did and hung in as long as they did. The good news is that they never sold out and never grew old and boring and Waters last album has as much wit and melody as I could want. I think Roger had more to do with what I loved about Floyd, but that in no way diminishes my appreciation for the epic singing and guitar work of David Gilmour. And Wright and Mason are awesome too. Like Led Zeppelin they were four epic talents in one band. Still sounding as good today as it ever did!
Hi Delsolomon,
music journalism IS about opinions. If even just two people could experience a concert or a CD in exactly the same way, there would be no reason to ask others how they liked it and why. Music journalism is part of this conversation. Why are there so many people who don’t understand that? And by the way: Not every opinion you don’t share is based on bad research.
Delsolomon says:
This article was mostly opinion. You say there counldn’t have been a Pink Floyd without Waters or Gilmour but that is untrue and it has been proven. Pink Floyd started without Gilmour and finished without Waters. I’m not going express my opinion on who’s better, but it would do all of us justice if you did some research before you post like this again.
[Of course it’s my opinion! Why else should I be writing this? Besides, I can write what I want. Please read the article again. – Bjorn]
gh gh gh I’d like to know your thoughts about this video :DD
Good post. For me that said a lot about the band and where they came from. Groundbreaking.
Spaceman Spiff says:
I have been, and always will be, more of a David fan than a Roger fan. (Even though my favorite album is Animals) I do love the lyrics that Roger has written, to include his solo works; however, I really try not to get too deep into the meaning of what someone is trying to say. I find lyrics to be propaganda that musicians are trying to sell their ideologies to the sheep. Words bind a song in a unique way by giving it purpose through tone, feeling, and meaning. It has always bothered me that most of the writing credits go to the people in the band that write them. To me, Floyd’s strongest song(s) are the ones that do not necessarily rely on words alone, but are made better with or without them. (Great gig, One of These Days, Echoes, Shine On, Any Colour You Like,……) Even though some of the songs that I have just mentioned have lyrics to them, I strongly feel that they could stand alone without them. I would also have to fully agree with Costello’s comment about Rick Wright and his influence on Floyd. Nick is the only member that I think could have been replaceable. (Not trying to offend anyone, simply an opinion) I think that Nick’s greatest input to the band is what you are not seeing on the records. He always seemed to be the arbitrator between the two head ego’s. Anyway, thank you for putting up a wonder site like this. Much appreciated and cheers!!!!
Ted Oliver says:
I’m a newbie to the site, and I particularly enjoyed your comments very much, especially those about the politics of writing credits (especially in Pink Floyd’s case) and your short-list of your favourite Floyd tunes–I agree, Floyd is a SOUND (regardless of lyrical quality) that has rarely been equaled–and the nice sentiments about Rick’s irreplaceable talent and contributions to the band’s body of work.
Anyway, having listened to “Wish You Were Here” and “Animals” a lot recently, I have a few questions about a few songs. For instance, although Waters put his name solely beside “Sheep”, both predecessor “Raving and Drooling” and the eventual “Sheep” track featured on the album, the song comes across as one of those songs were all three (Gilmour-Wright-Waters) contributed to the musical composition. Does anyone feel that Gilmour (or even Wright–I love his intro to the song) deserve a writing credit for this one? And, how about “Pigs”–from the middle section wherein Gilmour talks through the guitar down to the excellent climatic solo–just doesn’t seem like something Waters would have composed himself. I always feel the longer the Floyd tracks go length-wise, the more Gilmour and Wright are behind it. Any thoughts?
As for “Wish You Were Here”, what I’m really curious about is “Welcome to the Machine” in terms of writing credits. Before the 1987-90 Lapse tours, I watched an interview with Gilmour in which he talked about the songs from the past chosen for the set-list. I’m sure he said something along the lines of choosing the songs very carefully, and was wondering if it was a veiled reference to his lack of proper credits for songs credited solely to Waters. “Money” was played, but we all know this one should read Gilmour-Waters-Wright-Mason-Parry, and we know Gilmour should have had credit for “ABITW part 2” (but wasn’t) and it was played, too. “Sheep” was considered, but I believe he felt his vocals weren’t up to task for that tune. That leaves “Welcome to the Machine” as the only track performed live for which Waters was given sole credit. It seems that the effort was made to showcase the songs that Gilmour and Wright had major contributions toward. The WYWH documentaries don’t really shed too much liight on the song’s evolution. There are hints of the guitar parts in track 2 on “The Endless River”, and it made me think–after a listen on the headphones it would appear that this was another case of Gilmour and Wright’s musical magic coming to fore again (but not in the credit dept). Does anyone have any info on the development of this song? It’s one of my favourites, and it would be really strange that a Waters-only credited song would have been featured all through the first post-Waters tours. Should it read Waters-Gilmour-Wright????
Sorry for the long-winded post, but given the wealth of knowledge, opinions, and genuine love for the best band of them all evident on this site, I’m hoping some fans out there can shed some new light on my questions.
Cheers, and shine on everybody!
Ted from Ottawa
Costello says:
When you speak about who was the better artist, you’re never going to get a clear answer from everybody. Whether the better artist was RW, DG, or SB is not a solvable question. It just depends on what style you prefer. HOWEVER, you can argue which artist was the most innovative and influential. The most innovative and influential artist in Pink Floyd is Syd Barrett. The RW directed Floyd and the DG Floyd are simply the respective interpretation of a sound and mood created by Syd Barrett. In fact, if you want to argue who was responsible for the Pink Floyd sound, Richard Wright deserves even more credit than RW or DG. No instrument in the Floyd gave the lyrics and baseline that trademark “spookiness” more than Richard Wright’s keyboard. Syds unique word painting and squeaking guitar inspired Wright’s mood establishing space cadet keyboard. Mason’s hypnotic drum beats coupled with Waters’ well placed melancholic base lines followed rounded out the original Floyd sound. Waters became a great lyricist because he at least began by imitating Syd’s style. Gilmour’s began by imitating Syd’s guitar parts and evolved a “sensitivity with balls” sound of his own. But it’s all derivative of Barrett and even Wright, developed by Waters and Gilmour.
Overhead the Albatross says:
Forgive me for failing to resist the urge to add my opinion to this old argument.
The standard premise is that RW was the leader whose ideas pulled everything together, while DG has some soulful guitar phrases that were better recognized because of their tying-down to the concept.
Be that as it may, we must remember that RW was a mediocre lyricist at first (evidence: ‘More Light’, ‘Thy Stethoscope’, ‘If’ arguably), while DG was finding his sound having been imitating the likes of Hendrix and Clapton.
RW’s songs are often a bit folk-ish, but lyric-wise simple yet somewhat intellectual; intellectual pop if you will. Direct and never too abstract (even on WYWH, he borrowed Syd’s imagery). But it must be pointed out that it is the music created when RW does not over-dictate that stands out. In fact, I daresay if TFC was made in 1975, before RW dictated everything, it would have been a classic in a way different from it is now.
For example, Bricks II was apparently similar to Bricks I before DG’s solo, the disco-ish drumbeats and the children choir. If RW had been the way he was in TFC, Bricks II would have indeed been just another track (or even filler) in The Wall. Pretty sure if TFC-era Waters had worked on Bricks II, we would have a gloomy funereal track with some sound effects.
Another example is Money, where DG does the solo and sings RW’s lyrics in his bluesy style that propelled the band to stardom. If we had RW from the 80s working with PF instead, he probably would have limited DG’s input and maybe even try to sing the lead.
Back to the post-Piper years. Both RW and DG seemed to be very uninspired. And both manifested their trademarks at the same time (everyone would say at Echoes). Everything from thereon is just creative synergy between them.
When RW became too involved in everything, the music just didn’t sound that good. Ample evidence can be heard in TFC, which was by and large RW’s heartfelt but painful vocals coupled with Michael Kamen’s piano/orchestral input and the rare DG guitar solos. RW did have PF’s Midas Touch, but when he grabs hold of everything, as he did in TFC, it just became a miserable listen (TFC has its merits, but Wright’s absence and DG’s lack of input is glaring).
As for DG becoming too involved in everything, there is even more evidence in ‘Lapse’ and ‘Bell’. The spacey sounds were distinct, but hollow and uninspired.
So as to the question, Team DG or Team RW, I think the answer is anything but clear. Both of them peaked at the same time, so we can’t say for sure if it were RW or DG who lifted PF out of the post-Syd slump. A gun to my head though, I must side with DG, since it is his musical synergy with Wright that made me fall in love with the band’s music in the first place. Ultimately, the most special of all was Syd of course, whose lyrics lifted/inspired from random books and artsy guitaring had separated PF from all the other bands of the time, founding both DG and RW’s long careers.
[Thanks for your comment! – Bjorn]
Jeffnichos says:
I wonder if you could poll all who have contributed to this debate over the years, whether through this post or elsewhere, if you’d find that to a large extent, the majority of Gilmour supporters are musicians while those in the Waters camp are not. Might explain the basis of preference toward musicality vs. meaning. For the record, count me on Gilmour’s side.
[I’m sure there are lots of polls out there on this very subject. My intention, when I posted this years ago, was to stir up a fun discussion. I’ll leave it with that :) – Bjorn]
A Pseudonym says:
I have been listening to all the Floyd stuff; from bootlegs to solo material. And I must say, I agree. Obviously, nearly all the PF material contains guitar, so Gilmour would naturally be the better one to replicate the live stuff, having already won the guitar war. Waters has in the past employed some gifted guitarists (including Snowy White) and they all sound incredible, while Jon Carin plays for both Gilmour or Waters. I think it’s a no contest. Gilmour will always sound truer to the original having performed (and/or written) the music. Having said that, Waters has employed the best of the best, and in his recent (2010s) Wall tour, the performance has been quite accurate. But on the other material where Gilmour and Wright did contribute substantially (WYWH, TDSOM etc), Gilmour will always have the upper hand.
Basically, without Waters, Gilmour and Wright and Mason would be just another band; The Division Bell is, IMHO, very impressive sonically and perhaps musically, but is severely lacking in conceptual development (it’s not simply a Concept album just because the theme is ‘communication’, and you have songs such as ‘Poles Apart’ and ‘Keep Talking’). But Waters can’t cover much ground by relying on session musicians as well who are arguably not familiar with him (his solo work has too little music for a lot of words, although Jeff Beck on Amused to Death was brilliant as ever). Gilmour did not choose the ‘guitar virtuoso’ path, and therefore needs someone who can provide the ‘pop’ to make his unique guitar sound stand out. Waters has a lot of ideas, but would not have made it big if he had either employed session musicians or had different bandmates. In short, neither Gilmour nor Waters would be anywhere without each other, and so comparing the two would be pointless.
memento says:
I’ve started to really listen to Pink Floyd recently, and I also have watched a few documentaries about the band.
As others have previously mentioned, Roger Waters is the one with ideas and rest of the band “make them happen”. He’s the visionary and brains behind Pink Floyd’s most successful and creative work.
I think Roger Waters to Pink Floyd is what Steve Jobs was to Apple – the way they managed others, they futuristic ideas and the fact that they needed other incredibly talented peoples help to form their ideas into actual body of work makes their similarities uncanny.
Wow… a 7 year old thread still going strong.
I’ve always been in the Waters camp. Couldn’t really help it. The Wall was my gateway drug to Floyd when I was a lad and watching a VHS of the film in the late 80’s. From there, actually got into Waters solo work first with KAOS (still think Four Minutes is one of his best works) and Amused to Death when it dropped (always in a neck and neck race with WYWH as my number 1 album).
It wasn’t until 1994 when I finally gave Dark Side and Wish You Were Here a real listen and that was because I saw it live at 14 years old. I still regard PULSE as having the definitive live renditions of certain songs (Time, Wish You Were Here, Shine On). Since ’94, been immersed in full Floyd, from Piper on.
Now, here is where I will start to diverge from many posters on here. I saw Floyd in ’94, and then I saw In the Flesh in ’99 and ’00. Where as I prefer three or four songs from PULSE, I prefer ITF as a tour overall but that is because I don’t consider either to be Pink Floyd. The ticket said “Pink Floyd” in 1994, but that, to me, is the same as a Waters ticket saying “Creative Genius Of”. They are both using a famed musical history to sell a product/experience… but none are the genuine article.
No show post 1981 (Live 8 being the obvious exception) has been PINK FLOYD. Nor was it PINK FLOYD in ’11 when Waters, Mason and Gilmour were on stage in London. If somebody claimed “that was the last Pink Floyd show”, fans would be up in arms due to the lack of Rick Wright… yet many of those same people have no qualms saying that ’94 was the year of the last Pink Floyd tour. Nonsense.
Without Waters, Gilmour, Mason or Wright, there is no Pink Floyd… just varying formats of its’ members playing with other musicians.
Much has been put into the strengths and weaknesses of the “big two”. I think I am in the Waters camp as I tend to be more cerebral. I respond to the lyrics and concepts more so than the music exclusively. The best era of Floyd was when they had the “mixture” right. Parts of Meddle, Dark Side, WYWH, parts of Animals and parts of the Wall were prime examples of that mix. Waters was the brain, Gilmour was the heart.
For many of those who complain that Waters’ backing band sounds like a glorified cover band, I wonder how bad you would have flayed the singer/guitar player in London on May 12th 2011 if you didn’t KNOW it was Gilmour. Flubbed lyrics, sloppy playing of a man who maybe practiced the day of the show but not before… I think they would have been crucified and rightfully so. But, it wasn’t some unnamed nobody up there, it was DAVID GILMOUR! It wasn’t atrocious, it was the BEST! He didn’t fuck up, he was awesome! Once again, nonsense.
I have long believed that Waters could have Gilmour playing and singing every night in an Abe Lincoln mask behind stage and if nobody was told or knew, many fans would STILL claim it “doesn’t sound as good as Gilmour”. There is, I think, an “on/off” switch in fans heads. If they don’t see Gilmour, it’s automatically not as good. I never looked at it that way. I go off of what I see and hear and FEEL. Waters shows have moved me, Pink Floyd ’05 moved me, Floyd ’94 didn’t.
Sorry for the length.
[Thanks for commenting! Good points! – Bjorn]
Rafael Sena says:
I agree with you Bjorn. Rogers’s performances were never very good in my opinion. But… I saw him in São Paulo (Brazil) last year performig “The Wall” and it was amazing. A great band and an excellent performance! I heard that he used some voice overdubs (Young lust was a little too accurate if you know what I mean). It was the best show of my life.
ps – I ain’t never seen Gilmour live (lol)
[Agree. The The Wall show was amazing! – Bjorn]
Agreed with Dan ^
Dan Richter says:
I find it alot like peanut butter cups. I like peanut butter(Waters), I like chocolate(Gilmour), but they are the best when together. I am more on Gilmour side of things when it comes to the guitar and polished music, but the song writer/idea side of me really likes Waters vision.
I find David’s music more soulful and transcendent on a grandeous scale, while Roger’s pulls at my heart strings and explores the depths of my psyche. They are both great in different ways and I appreciate them in different ways. For me Gilmour will always edge out Waters, but that is only personal preference. That is the truley great thing about music/art, it can touch us all in different yet personally relevant ways.
I’ll see you all on the dark side of the moon.
Keith Clarke says:
I said I was done, but have to add that like an atom, if you lose or gain an electron, you have a different element, so I was saying just that, when Rick was given the boot, different band, different feel. When Roger took total control, and then left, that was not Pink Floyd, but elements of the band remained. I will say that I saw them before the breakup, and after, and that even without Roger, they still sounded like Pink Floyd, on the older material, but at least in my mind, The Wall was a definite turning point, that signaled the end of the band I knew as Pink Floyd. I don’t think everything they did in the post Animals period was bad, or a sell out, just a different band. As for King Crimson, it never was “a band”, merely a varying group of musicians that changed every album, and more of a Fripp solo project that changed with each album, so yes, they are a definite contrast to Floyd’s attempt to continue on even though they weren’t actually Pink Floyd anymore. I’m quite sure that there are those who would disagree with the 3 opinions expressed here, and think that Pink Floyd ceased to exist when Syd lost it, and left the band. Lastly, I was merely stating a long held opinion, and do not expect everyone to agree. It was just a thought after hearing perhaps the song I find so not PF, “Learning to Fly”. Now, I’m done! LOL! I am not an expert, nor do I intend to insult ANYONES taste, just an observation.
Peace be with you, and all you love, Keith :)
Vadim says:
Very correct generalization, Bjorn!
I allow myself to come up with a different position.
When considering the almost fifty-year history of Pink Floyd, I find that even with a certain period, the essence of Floyd was unchanged. Unlike other well-known groups. I fundamentally do not single out the best periods. The unique history of Pin Floyd is that certain periods firmly united into one, as the atoms in the molecules: each atom is unique and makes certain properties in a stable molecule. Contrasts the history of King Crimson, which is devoid of such integrity, it is an unstable molecule in time. So fragmentation stories Pink Floyd is just the best way of seeing this cultural heritage. Man for a better perception of reality tend to make a formal simplification, to divide the whole into parts, etc. That’s the way the brain and the human psyche.
[Well put :) – Bjorn]
Wow Bjorn, you understood exactly what I was trying to say, but stated it much more eloquently than I ever could. In 1979, at 17 I wrung my hands constantly waiting for the follow up to Animals, and as I’ve mentioned before, my friend worked for CBS, so I was able to get the album, and all of the promotional materials several weeks before even the radio stations. I immediately fell in love with The Wall, but at 17, I was less interested in the lyrical content, and was unaware of the inner turmoil within the band, and all I cared about at that young age was how kick ass Run Like Hell, and Dirty Woman were. Admittedly, it wasn’t until I was a year or two older, and had been bombarded non-stop with ABITW, and Comfortably Numb on my local rock station, and had started college where I started to think more about lyrical content, and started to examine the socio-political side of things that I became disenchanted with the obvious fact that the album was NOT a Pink Floyd album. Animals was almost as much a Waters album, but the others still had enough input to, at least in my mind, make it a great Pink Floyd record, one that to this day I feel was one of their greatest. But as you correctly said, the demons that take over when you become a sell out every show, big time radio star, and yet find yourself still economically in the shitter, almost always kill the band. Interesting that you put the Beatles in there, because they were likely the most popular, and powerful band that has ever existed, and they went through the gamut of crisis’ including financial woes, interruptions by girlfriends, and wives, and not least of all that thing that likens being in a band to marriage, feelings of hurt, jealousy, and abandonment. Yet, somehow, they were the exception to the rule as far as their music went during the end days of the band. Everyone knows that the last couple of albums were a collection of solo material of each member, but never did they not sound like the Beatles, while they definitely morphed from the old Jerry and the pace makers, British version of American blues and soul, almost cover band, into a more adult band both lyrically, and musically, being innovative in everything they did, I would say that Abbey Road, The Beatles, (the White album), and Let it Be, are as good as anything they ever recorded, in some ways better, and even though they were a lot like the Pink Floyd of The Wall/Final Cut, they still sounded like The Beatles. I digress. You stated my point as well as could be stated, and yet it still saddens me that at the height of their abilities, and the technical innovations that became available in the ’80s, that they just imploded into a charicature of the Pink Floyd I loved so very much, and my personal feelings are that they should have quit after Animals, and embarked on solo carreers, instead of attempting to be something that they could never be as anything less than a democratic unit. That’s all I will say about this ever again, and will end with they should have listened to their own line from DSOTM, ” No one told you when to run, you missed the starting, (in this case the ending!) Gun……. Young men and women, Listen to some nice old Floyd every chance you get.
Cheers to that!
In response to Keith’s latests posts…
First of all, happy 51st birthday, Keith! Hope you had a nice celebration!
This whole thread, as so many has pointed out, is pretty pointless. Perhaps I shouldn’t have started it in the first place but then again, why not. There’s no right or wrong simply because it’s all subjective point of views. It is not possible to discuss this matter without being coloured by one’s own taste, opinion, experience etc… as with most things in life.
The Floyd history is covered in detail, so that’s really no fun to discuss. It’s widely known who did what… even if both David and Roger claims otherwise.
Personally I agree with you. I think Pink Floyd sounded best between 1968-1977 with a peak around 1971-77. I don’t agree that everything after Animals is a sell out. It’s just another era of the band.
Above all, I think you have to take in consideration the state of the band. Up until Dark Side, all they wanted was to sell albums and reach as many people as possible with their music. Once they broke through in the States in 1973, they had reached all their goals. They got rich and everything got bigger. No matter how much you want this, it does something with your head and this had a strong effect on the band, their relationship and their creativity. As it did with Beatles, Zeppelin and pretty much everyone else.
Looking back, Roger has said that the band should have quit after Dark Side. But they didn’t. They wrote WYWH, which was an incredibly introspective album dealing with what they felt at the time. By Animals, they were so big and the rollercoaster was hard to stop. They toured the world and it had a devastating effect on ROger, Rick and the relationship within the band. Again, they should have quit. Not because they couldn’t write more meaningful music but because they were exhaused and this had an effect on their creativity and judgement.
The Wall is perhaps a hard album to grasp for some but I don’t think Roger wrote it to please anyone. He wrote it because he had to deal with his demons. David didn’t get this and saw the whole thing as a failure. I think The Wall has some weak moments but in whole, it’s a master piece. I rank it way down on the Floyd scale but I’m awe over what Roger achieved. Not least after having seen his latest shows, which, for me, put the whole album and it’s story in perspective.
But The Wall isn’t Pink Floyd. It’s a Roger Waters solo album with the rest of the guys contributing. It does not have the same group effort as the previous albums.
Final Cut was intended to be a collection of unused songs from the Wall. Then it ended up as a Roger Waters solo album. It was never intended to be a new Floyd album but due to their catastrophic financial situation at the time, the record company and Roger, didn’t dare to release it without the Floyd logo. Rick was already out of the picture and Nick and David was brought in to do their parts. I love the album but it’s not Pink Floyd.
So, my point is, you can’t just talk about one album, without seeing the whole picture. Why is Sgt Pepper different from Rubber Soul? The Beatles had stopped touring, they were more experienced, they had explored other artistic forms, some of them were more politically active etc… There’s always a reason and some like the old band bettr than the new… or vice versa. It doesn’t make the other better or worse.
It’s interesting that music is always considered more commercial and up for debate than most other art forms. Poetry or painting are considered to be a more serious art form but for me, music has a much bigger meaning and impact on me as a human. Pink Floyd’s music is a great example of how you can paint music. They wrote as a painter would layer his textures and colours. Echoes is one piece consisting of several individual parts. just like the images of the Sistine Chappel. So is The Wall. It’s not one song but a collection of individual pieces that makes up one big image. Music isn’t written out of the blue. It is a result of how the author and performer felt at that particular time. That’s the beauty of music.
I just remembered what got me thinking about this. I heard learning to fly on the radio a couple of days ago. Listen to that song, and then just about any pre The Wall song, and the difference should make my point quite well.
Regardless, David Gilmour is the most soulful, innovative rock guitarist ever, and I don’t think anyone will ever change my thinking in that belief! Peace, Love, and Gilmourish…Everything he’s ever done! Keith
Bjorn, do you at some level see my point? Like I said, I’m in no way trying to pee on anyone’s parade, I’ve just never really seem to enjoy any band as much once they get that taste of mass airplay, and feel that the music suffers when they start writing for their radio audience instead of for their own artistic satisfaction. I feel the same about the Who, post Who are You, Zeppelin’s In through the Out Door, etc. I fully believe bands should evolve, but some get a taste of a few FM hits, and Devolve. I don’t know what got me thinking about this, and really don’t mean to minimalize anyone’s feelings about the post Animals stuff, I guess I see so many posts about songs, and albums I’ve only had a cursory relationship with, that it makes me wonder why there’s not more talk of the earlier Gilmour stuff, other than Echoes, or a few songs from DSOTM, AND WYWH. I love Not now John, I find Sorrow interesting, I’m actually pretty crazy about Ms. Fletchers, but find that
the vast majority of the post Waters Floyd to consist mainly of the same heavily processed drums, rhythmic echo produced guitar line ala Another Brick, and less than emotional talking through the lyrics in a monotone fashion, instead of the wonderfully beautiful harmonies Gilmour, and Wright were so capable of. I cannot help to feel as though I’m listening to two entirely different bands. I’m just going on, but I just hope someone understands what I’m saying, abd that no one takes it wrong
An addendum ! I am sorry for all the typos, these little phone’s keys are difficult to hit right every time, but I assure you I have no idea how ” one of the finest recordings”, ended up, one of the Conestoga? Auto spell is a bitch! The rest, I think you can decipher.
Peace y’all, KC
I’m not about to start this controversy all over again, but thought this was the best place for my thoughts. Maybe it’s got something to do with age, as I turned 51 yesterday, and that being said, I have been a huge Floyd fan since before many of you were born, but I just can’t seem to get impressed by anything called Pink Floyd after, or perhaps during Animals. I must admit that Animals, while it is the album where Roger, and oerhaps Davids egos began the unstoppable spiral tgat killed Floyd, it is still perhaps my favorite Pink Floyd album, although Neddle, and WYWH, are very dear to my soul, and of course DSOTM is without a doubt one of the Conestoga recordings ever made on the earth. Perhaps because I got so sick off hearing one song after another from Roger’s mental masterbation, known as The Wall receive constant airplay that was never afforded the band at the apex of their creativity that put a bad taste in my mouth, and made me think they just sold out. To some degree, I do feel that the post Animals remaining two albums, The Wall, and The Final cut are pretty much Roger waters/ Michael Kamen/ Bob Ezrin albums, thus more targeted to a radio audience, I also have never been able to wrap my love of the band around much of the post Waters material, which again sounds more nainstream pop, and while the lyrical content is definitely not the stuff of average pop, the songs just seem to bleed one into the other, to a point at which to me there is little more than the lyrics to distinguish one song from the next. There are exceptions, and admittedly, th
e Wall may have discouraged me from listening to their post Animals material with the vigor I previously awaited the earlier releases. I say thus, knowing that many here care more for the Division Bell, than Atom Heart, or UmmaGumma, but once again, this may be an age thing. Take for example, Comfortably Numb,the greatest solo ever. I find that statement to be so far from what I think of as Davids best work, that it makes me cringe to think so many are enamored by the relative soullessness of that solo compared to say the Dogs solo before the vocal,” And when you lose control”. The tone may be something
great, and of course tone is a big reason why we’re all here, but while the technique that solo was recorded with, does have a beautiful tone, I don’t see how it can come close to the soul filled solos on DSOTM, WYWH, and not least Animals, where you can hear him pouring the emotions he’s feeling onto the tape! I will never criticize anyone for their tastes, but I think some of you need to go back to the beginning, and listen to the earliest of the Gilmour era a bit closer, and follow through the Wall, and see if you can grasp my opinion, even if you don’t end up agreeing with it. Anyway, not trying to start a controversy, just stating a very strongly held opinion.
Peace, Love, and Gilmourish, Keith Clarke
Chinni says:
Agreed Bjorn,
SYD – The Meaning of Floyd
ROGER – The Voice of Floyd
DAVE – The Sound of Floyd
Despite a Hard-core WATER’s fan I can say just one thing.
ROGER-DAVE combo, the best ever.
WATER’s himself wrote in “HEY YOU”
TOGETHER WE STAND.. DIVIDED WE FALL..
All we can do is to listen and praise the work they did together..
[Indeed! – Bjorn]
Well then you say Cherish ‘GILMOURISH’..
I respect the man who started the The Tea Set, the man who led Pink Floyd for nearly 2 decades, the man whose writings were DIVINE, whose thoughts were extreme, the man who had loyal respect towards his true leader SYD, the man who always initiate raw singles, which inturn shared by the band to furnish it into a masterpiece..
He wrote
TIME – Every man has a day to die, so live your life.
MONEY – Its a gas, so dont give it a shit.
SHINE ON – SYD we love you.
THE FINAL CUT – He missed his Father.
ABITW 1 – Memento to his father.
ABITW 2 – Fuck studies, teachers leave the kids alone.
ABITW 3 – Leave drugs.
Animals – People all arounds, three different kinds.
And tons and tons of masterpieces..
All respect to the Maestro “ROGER WATERS”..
Master, you are UNIQUE..
[He is unique all right… So is and was the rest of the guys. Wonder how these songs would have sounded without Floyd. – Bjorn]
Any such debate is pointless. Who contributed more to the Zepplin sound? Page? Bonham? Would the Beatles have been better if they substituted Chet Atkins for George? Garfunkle with Tom Jones? Ridiculous. We have the music we all love because of the random events that brought them together. Unless you prefer muzak, (which, bless you, is ok if it really moves you), you have to realize that the classic bands all had key contributors. In different ways, different extents, and at different times. It’s the MAGIC people! Random, magical, collaborative beauty. That’s what makes the music we love. Debate less…listen, and enjoy more.
[Well, I think we all can agree to that. Hell, WYWH, Animals and Wall wouldn’t have been written if it wasn’t for the huge success of Dark Side driving Floyd into the endless strains of touring. There are so much more to music and the writing that just the person writing it. Still though, a debate is always fun :) There are worse things you can do. – Bjorn]
I’m looking forward to see what Roger comes up with in his new album http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/roger_waters_writing_new_concept_album.html
Hopefully it will be better than his other solo work because he’s a very creative writer and has potential into making something really stand out on his own. Also I can’t wait for the new Wall Concerts DVD to come out, hopefully it’ll on blu-ray too.
Bjorn, have you been to the Roger Waters – The Wall concert yet? I just saw they announced a second leg of the European tour in which two dates includes Norway. It’s really fantastic, I’ve been to the first concert in Toronto where he started and the last concert in Quebec of the second leg tour in North America. He improved many things in the second leg of the tour, including sound – which is top priority.
[Looking forward to hear some new material although I think it will be hard to beat Amused to Death. I did get to see all of the shows in London’s O2 arena in May last year, including David’s performance. I was really blown away by the show and I think Roger’s done an amazing job keeping the concept and music fresh and new. – Bjorn]
Well, I’ve hinted at, but never said it straight up befire. To me, the last, and perhaps one of the finest Pink Floyd albums was Animals. The Wall impressed me when it was released, but the commercialization, and constant airplay made me sick of the LP very quickly. I mentioned in an earlier post that my best friend worked for CBS, distributing advance mayerial to radio stations, and record outlets. At the tine, I was in one of my Floyd periods, and greatly anticipated the release because of my fascination with Animals. About a month before it’s release, I got a bunch of promotional Gerald Scarffe stand ups, with widows in the wall that opened to reveal the various characters, several Theatre sized posters, and the promotional stamped copy of th LP a month before the radio stations. I couldn’t wait for the tour, and got 2 tickets to one of the only 2 east coast dates at Nassau Colosseum in NY, only to miss the show! Now, getting back to the subject, I really don’t think of much of anything after Animals as being a real Pink Floyd effort, and with few exceptions don’t find anything after Animals that doesn’t sound very commercial. Like Stephen, I too think that the Syd era produced some of their finest work, and set the stage for the direction the band took ince David’s prowess on guitar added it’s uniqueness. But I am absolutely fanatical about everything from the point David joined the band, up to Animals, and think the troubles that started with Animals basically ended Pink Floyd as far as albums go. Hiwever, live, David, Rick, and Nick did the bands music justice on tour as Pink Floyd, as did David, and Rick. I don’t see Roger as having dne that, and lastly, the bad investments you spoke of Bjorn, seem mainly to have been a result once again of Roger’s “Vision”, and the crazy amounts of money they lost on The Wall, one time I’m sure Rick was glad to be getting a paycheck, as he was the only member or non member that is, to make a dime on the fiasco of a tour. So it basically doesn’t really matter. They WERE a great band, who made some great albums, and as with most great bands, their heads got too big, and they exploded, the onlu difference is my opinion that Animals was the kast real Pink Floyd album made for the music, not the money!
Peace, Love, and Gilmourish FOREVER! KC
“Perhaps this should be a solo record. I’ll pay you guys the money we’ve spent, and I’ll make this a solo album.’ No, they didn’t want that, because they know songs don’t grow on trees. They wanted it to be a Floyd record.”
This is what WATERS said about Final Cut in 1987.
He was a maestro. Just like that.
[In 1987 Waters had just lost the legal battle with Floyd and he was pissed. Really pissed. He said a lot of things out of spite. The truth about Final Cut was that Roger wanted it to be a solo album and he wrote and recorded it as a solo album. Rick was out and David and Nick was treated as hired musicians. They came into the studio, recorded their parts and left the album to Roger and in large part, Michael Kamen (ALL of the orchestra arrangements are Kamen). The reason they decided on making it a Floyd album was the fact that they didn’t dare to do it any other way. Well, Roger and the record company didn’t dare. Pink Floyd had lost most of their money after Wall due to some bad investments and they were more or less bankrupt. Nobody knew who the individual members were so it would have been a huge risk and required a massive promo campaign to release the album under Roger’s name. It is also fair to speculate that everyone was aware that the band was over but none didn’t quite dare to take the step. Nick was lazy. David was keen on playing but didn’t have the guts to start his solo career (he was “forced” later on due to financial problems and by the record company) and Roger was perhaps well aware that the album wouldn’t have done shit without the Floyd logo. Personally I think Final Cut is some of Roger’s finest work and it’s one of my favourite Floyd albums. – Bjorn]
@ Keith
I may not be open minded. I just want to ask, why Momentary Lapse of Reason failed to Impress?? And fact that The Final Cut struck massively, Floyd fans enjoyed it. I’m sure that Division Bell was one of the best, but most of the lyrics written by Anthony Moore and Bob Ezrin..
Momentary Lapse of Reason suffered the loss of WATERS, apart Learning to Fly, no other number had good lyrics.
I said Angus Young because, he composed, played ecstatically, wrote lyrics.
I said Mark Knopfler because, hez the only brick in that wall so called Dire Straits.
And Jimmy Page, we need to accept he can be called The Greatest.
Gilmour’s great piece of composition was his contribution in Shine On, WYWH, Comfortably Numb, Dogs, Echoes, and most of Meddle.
But of the Most, Waters wrote Shine On, WYWH, Echoes and Meddle.
Contributed in Dogs (Gilmour’s “You ‘ve got to be Crazy” song) and Comfortably Numb.
Since 20 years, I ‘ve been listening to Floyd, just Floyd.
Tried to shift to Led Zeppelin, Doors or some other stuff, but I am completely addicted to Floyd.
Trust me, My day starts with Shine On, ends with Wearing the inside out. Just Floyd.
I enjoyed waters kind of music, It was very psychic, different, especially his voice, ofcourse now its not good, but when he sang, Brain Damage, Shine On all those stuff, he had a Psychic voice.
@ Stephen Ford
I do respect Syd, no offence. He was the best.
It was a big blow, his departure.
But Dave for sure is the right replacement.
But Waters led the band from 1968-83.
That was a massive blow, their very next album’s failure.
Dave replaced him as Band’s leader.
The question is “Did the band get the same response from the crowd??”
Their soul was gone when SYD left. But for sure, Dave refreshed music like a perfume.
Their heart was gone when ROGER left.
That’s why people call 1985, The Fall of Floyd..
[I don’t think you can call Momentary a failure. It was a massive hit and the tour was the biggest they ever did. Apart from the die hard fans, most of the crowd didn’t even notice that Roger had left because Floyd were anonymous figures. True, Momentary was a huge step in another direction but so was the music scene all together. Prog rock was considered dead and the massive concept albums had lost the audience’s interest due to the focus on singles and MTV. Momentary was kind of “saved” by Learning to Fly but it wouldn’t have sounding like Dark Side or Wall with Waters on board anyway. It was a new era. Likewise, I have a hard time believing that Floyd would have survived with Syd… I think you also have to consider the massive pressure Floyd and David had in making the album. They had a lot to live up to and they put all their savings up for the album and tour to be a success. I’m sure this affected their ability to write true Floyd music, something which is clear on Division Bell, which is much more true to the spirit of the band. – Bjorn]
I’ll take MLOR over DB any day . I can’t stand his wife’s lyrics.
Oh, I almost forgot, you said Gilmour was a show off. Of all the guitarists you named, Gilmour is the least “Showy” of them all. Most of the time, DG stands in one place, the only show being the soulful concentration on his face. Page, jumped all over the place in skintight sequined bell bottoms, Blackmore walked to center stage to get the main spots on him during solos,Knopfler slightly more movement aronud the stage, Clapton pretty much the same as Gilmour,Santana, and his exaggerated “rat like” facial expressions, and lastly, come on, ANGUS YOUNG? How much more of a poser can one be? If not for his stage antics, he’d be playing Blues Rock bars in the outback! Your Graduate school hasn’t taught you to be open-minded, that much is obvious. And oh yeah, I have a degree in MUSIC!
Hello Bjorn! I laud your inclusion of the comments made by Chinni because it proves that you are fair, and will post even comments that many find totally out of line for a site devoted to the Gilmourish communities love of the guitarists work. Now, I would like to personally address his comments, and while this is MY opinion, I believe I will echo the sentiments of many in the Gilmourish community, Chinni, While I must admit that Mr. Waters is indeed a very talented writer, your use of statistical analysis based on liner notes, and information gleaned from internet sites in no way tells the Pink Floyd story, or who deserves the most credit for their artistic vision, or their success. First, While Waters is a great writer, that is pretty much his major contribution to the band. If not for Syd Barrett, I do not believe there would have been a Pink Floyd,(Especially since it was Barrett who coined the bands name on the spot, when the name they were using, “The Tea Set” was being used bu another band on the bill of an early show. Barrett at the time was the main influence both lyrically, and musically, but because of his mental issues, his tenure was short. Enter Gilmour. When David joined the band, it was Wrights keyboard genius that gave The Pink Floyd their unique sound, but as they moved away from the influence of Syd, Gilmour’s soulful solos, and innovative techniques using the latest availible effects, that took center stage along with Wright, to give Pink Floyd it’s signature sound. Yes, Roger wrote a great deal of the lyrics, and sang many of the songs, but where does his musicianship ever shine anywhere close to the levels of the other band members? I will bet my life that had Roger not had Syd, and then David, he would never have been a rock star, possibly a writer, poet, or artist , but I can find nothing in his playing, or singing that would have made him a star. He was not considered the driving force in the band until perhaps Animals, when his ego took over the band so much that he fired Rick Wright, only to have to hire him for the tour, because Wright could never be replaced, Roger was replaced! In your post you mentioned several guitarists who you put above Gilmour, and with the exception of Mark Knopfler, (Really just another Chet Atkins knock off.), I see no one on that list who comes close to the talent, nor personal style of DG. While they are all fine Guitarists, they are all pentatonic blues scale players, as is Gilmour, but with a twist. Gilmour took the blues riff into unchartyed territory, the minor scale, and that is what sets hiim apart from all the guitarists you mentioned. You know the old addage about opinions, and what they are like, and that everyone has one, and they all stink, so instead of coming to a site that is about someone you obviously have a problem with, I’m sure there is a site possibly called, “Watered Down”, “The man who destroyed the band”, “It’s my band, and I’ll run it my way”, or maybe just “ROGER IS GOD!”. Yes Chinni, Waters wrote a vast amount of the lyrics, and got a great deal of credit for his musical input, but as far as the music goes, it was a group effort, with Wright, and Gilmour wirting the vast majority of the post Syd melodies. I may even step on some peoples feet by saying that as a band, Pink Floyds best work ended with Animals, the point where Roger really took over. While the Music is wonderfully arranged, and recorded, I find the Wall to be Rogers self indulgent ego at it’s apex, and find little in their later catalog that interests me. and lastly, as far as Rogers vocals go, (and I’ve done this.), I can put a clothespin on my nose, and nail his nasal, rather off key, yet unique vocals. Both DG, and RW have wonderful voices, and would have been well known musicians with, or without Roger, but I don’t think Roger would have made it without them. Please at least try to be positive if you are going to be part of the community. Like mom said, “If you don’t have something nice to say, SHUT UP!”
Peace, Love, and all members of PINK FLOYD made them the band they were, not any one! KC
[Thanks for your comment, Keith. Please see my reply below. – Bjorn]
@Chinni,
Nicely done, I really enjoyed having it all broken down!
I would debate the premise of this discussion at its core as much as I enjoy reading and considering all of the reasonings.
In my opinion (and many would agree) the greatest music Pink Floyd composed was birthed through the collaboration of great musical minds and to give any one person the credit for their part alone misses the subtly of how musicians feed off of one another. I give Syd much more than 8% based on the amazing path that his imagination took them on, one that lasted far beyond his span with The Floyd. Honestly I still find the best of Floyd to come during Syd’s years and shortly after his leaving and then slowly sinking downward towards The Final Cut. David still makes amazing music, and is and will always be a great inspiration to me but his later work is a lot less original than it once was…perhaps more accessible but much more commercial.
In my opinion Roger and David needed each other to be the best they both could be, and to separate the two is pointless.
When musicians loose site of how the others around them contribute to their own greatness you get exactly what happened to Pink Floyd. Roger Waters became lost in his all mighty Tower, Wright’s role was down played to the point of non existence in Rogers eyes and the band lost out as a whole.
How Waters could ever have gotten to the point of loosing sight of the magic that came from the union of his friends still amazes me. Wright to me is such a great part of what I love about Pink Floyd.
So Roger vs Gilmour??? Whats the point?? Wish they could see that they were better together as I think they all did their best work together… few would argue that DSOTM was anything less that an amazing creation, or argue that Wish You Where Here doesn’t get deeper into the soul than Floyd after they split. Hell I still love Pipers At The Gates Of Dawn as one of my favorite LPs.
It is all great to pick apart but its important not to loose site of the Whole. Pink Floyd was a gift given to the world and to its members by the unity of one special moment in time when as luck would have it all the pieces of a grand puzzle came together.
[To Keith, Chinni and Stephen. Fun to see that there’s still some life in this old post! To answer Stephen first – Roger VS David… what’s the point? Well, my initial point when I posted a few years ago was to have a post for people to have a healthy discussion. It’s always fun to read people’s enthusiastic ravings about a topic that so clearly is without any substance at all :) I think I’ve share my view in about every reply but I can make a new shot…
There is absolutely no point in discussing which is better – Floyd with or without Roger. It’s all a subjective opinion. I prefer Floyd between 68-83 but that’s not because of Roger but because of their collective creativity. Floyd wouldn’t have sounded like they did without David, Roger, Rick, Nick or Syd… or Kamen, Ezrin, Harper, Torry, Parry, Pratt, Parsons and all the others that contributed on their albums. It simply would have sounded different without all these and it would have sounded like a different band without the members. Floyd ceased to exist after Syd left, after Roger left and after Division Bell. I don’t think you even can compare Dark Side with Division Bell. It’s two different bands and eras.
The arguments and lists that Chinni shared are fine but they’re wrong. It’s OK to discuss taste and preference but not facts. If you think Roger wrote everything just because it says so on the album cover, then you got the facts wrong. Sure, he wrote most of the lyrics and had most of the creative ideas but the band wrote the music and crafted out the ideas. Roger was a genius at writing lyrics and knowing how to dramatically arrange the music. However, he was not able as a musician to write all the chords, instrumental bits and the orchestral arrangements. A very large part of Floyd’s music should be credited David, Rick, Ezrin and Kamen. Not Roger. Even the majority of Wall wasn’t just a Roger piece.
So what’s the point? Well, Floyd without the combination of Roger’s ideas and lyrics and David and Rick’s musicality wouldn’t have given us Dark Side, WYWH, Animals and Wall. Simple as that. Roger nor David could have achieved anything near that alone.
– Bjorn]
I spent nearly eight hours yesterday on the web and calculated.
Of the fourteen studio albums by Pink Floyd:
contribution in music composition:
waters- 89
gilmour- 53
wright- 34
mason- 21
contribution as a lyricist:
mason- 2
contribution as a vocalist
Bob Klose, the unofficial member of the band, too performed along side the band for many years.
ron geesin, Alan Stiles, John Alldis Choir, roy Harper, bob ezrin, anthony moore and many others contibuted a little.
I’m a Graduate in Computer Science, I calculated on some statistical basis.
My results say:
Syd’s contribution to the band was : 8%
Roger’s contribution to the band was : 47%
Gilmour’s contribution to the band was: 30%
So that says, The Mighty WATERS contributed more for the band, and so hailed as the “Band’s Rightful Leader”
[He he, well OK… If that makes you sleep better at night. Perhaps you should read up on the Floyd history and not just base your research on the politics stated in the album covers. – Bjorn]
Talking only about music and performance,
Mark Knopfler, Jimmy Page, Angus Young, Eric Clapton, Santana, Richie Blackmore..
Dave Gilmour may come after them.
But Waters was, is and will be unique.
Floyd’s best number ever Shine on.. was written as sung by Waters himself..
Brain Damage, Pigs, Sheep, ABINTW parts 1 and 3, and lots of best numbers were written, composed and sung by him..
1968-85, what did Dave do, just sing what waters write and compose, most of them…
The division bell might have won a prize, but the fans loved DSOTM, Animals and Final Cut the most, In fact waters was a far better leader than Syd..
Gilmour was always a show off..
Hail Waters, he taught what was music..
[Well, you’re right about one thing – Roger wrote the lyrics for all of those songs. However, he did not write the music alone. In fact, apart from maybe Brain Damage, all of the other songs are a result of David and Rick, in particular, working out Roger’s crude ideas into the versions we know. Most of Wall is as much a Bob Ezrin and Michael Kamen album as it is Roger. He did not arrange half of those songs… sorry, but you’re wrong. But hey, it doesn’t matter. Roger and David were both genius in their own way. – Bjorn]
well, its simple enough……roger is all about lyrics and great ideas which revolutionized the “Rock ” plus concert…and gilmour is the man behind music … PF will not be PF with any of them missing…. soo cheers…and “shine on”
Niethcort says:
It sucks to see how people think of music as something that accompanies lyrics, music has to stand on it’s own or I would be reading a poem instead of listening to it.
I’ll be the first to say that I’m team Gilmour. Nothing in the world makes my ears tingle like the sound of his guitar (except maybe the sound of his voice). The lyricist vs. musician paradigm is pretty clear, but after the split (and on Final Cut), I don’t even think Waters’ lyrics are very good. In the old days, his lyrics were poetic and inspired, after the Wall, it all just sounds like angry political ranting, absolutely no subtlety. Say what you will about Momentary Lapse of Reason, it might not hold it’s own as an album like the old Floyd, but musically it has some spectacular moments. Sorrow is among the most spectacular guitar pieces ever played, and nothing cools me down on a hot day like Terminal Frost. And PULSE is pure magic. I will admit though, I’m not very crazy about it’s performance of Dark Side. Time just isn’t raw enough, and Guy Pratt makes the bass on Money way too busy. And Us and Them always disappoints me simply for the fact that on Delicate Sound of Thunder, the first measure is just guitar and keyboards with no bass and drums, and it’s the most beautiful 30 seconds of music I’ve ever heard, and for some reason, they decided not to do it on PULSE. Live, Waters bands don’t hold a candle to David’s. Snowy is a decent No. 2 to David, but as a lead guitarist, his sound has no soul. I think your analogy of them being a cover band featuring Roger Waters is very accurate. The one time his live show was really great was on The Wall in Berlin, but it is forever tarnished by the atrocities that were Joni Mitchell on Goodbye Blue Sky and Van Morrison on Comfortably Numb. There is one way though that Waters could produce a show that could compete with David – bring Adrian Belew (of King Crimson, Talking Heads, David Bowie and Frank Zappa to name a few) as his guitarist and lead vocalist. One of the most amazing and underrated musicians of all time.
Yeah it’s great music…lyrically though.. erm no.
I don’t think either of them were as instrumental as they like to think of themselves as being. Both have colossal egos, both consider themselves to be something more than Pink Floyd. In fact, they were simply cogs of the giant Floydian machine, mutually interdependent on each other as well as on Wright and (to a lesser extent) Mason. I love The Final Cut, and I can’t stand A Momentary Lapse of Reason, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that I prefer Waters to Gilmour. In contrast, I find Waters’ solo albums (without exception) dreadful, but enjoy immensely Gilmour’s On An Island.
Musician vs Composer
Instrument vs Maestro
It’s All Pink Floyd Guys!!!!!!
Direct Quote from Roger..re dark side of the moon.
When in 2003 he was asked if his input on the album was “organising [the] ideas and frameworks” and David Gilmour’s was “the music”, Waters replied:
That’s crap. There’s no question that Dave needs a vehicle to bring out the best of his guitar playing. And he is a great guitar player. But the idea which he’s tried to propagate over the years that he’s somehow more musical than I am is absolute f*****g nonsense. It’s an absurd notion but people seem quite happy to believe it.
Your answers are great by the way really eloquently put. Incorrect but eloquently put.
[Ha ha! Yeah well, I guess we can agree to disagree :) I think one can’t take neither Roger or David’s words as facts. They both have huge egos and 30 years of bickering obscures the hard facts. I wasn’t in the studio when Dark Side was recorded but I’ve heard most of Roger’s initial demos, over 30 live recordings from the 1972 Eclipse tour and most of the demos from the recording sessiosn (which BTW will be featured on the new remaster). This for me is the evidence that Dark Side was a group effort. Roger had the lyrics but they all came up with the concept. Even Roger admits to that. Roger has some very basic ideas for melodies etc but it was largely David and Rick that brought structure and developed the songs. It’s also easier to understand if you know something about how they write music. I’m not sure how experienced you are but I hear Roger on Breathe, Money, Brain Damage and Eclipse. That’s his signature way of writing. I hear David and Rick on parts of Breathe and most of Time. That’s they’re signature way of writing chords and arranging the music. Rick did most of Great Gig and Us and Them. Partly because these were his old compositions but also because it’s a well documented fact that he worked out the progressions during the 1972 tour and the 1972-73 recording sessions. Shine On was largely a Waters blues song and David and Rick created the dynamics and long instrumental parts. Cigar and WYWH is largely Waters I believe. Sheep and Dogs are very much group efforts although 90% of the music on Dogs is all David. That’s a well documented fact. Pigs is largely Waters. That’s his signature. Roger can say what he wants. If you get him on a bad day he’ll say that he wrote 90% of Floyd’s material. If you catch him on a good day he’ll probably say that David had some impact. David however will say that Roger was too lost in his traumatized childhood and forgot about the music. Neither is right. Roger can’t possibly mean that Floyd would have sounded like they did without David and Rick and he knows that but he also has personal issues with being fired from the band that he though the “owned”. That does something to your ego. David on the other hand needs to steer the ship and at least pretend to be the captain. It’s all politics between two stiff upper lip british gents swinging their swords. It really doesn’t matter. I think both Roger and David are genius. Final Cut and Amused to Death are some of my fav albums of all time. Much better than all of David’s solo albums I must admit. BUT I strongly disagree that Roger would have managed to write Dark Side,WYW, Animals and Wall alone. But again, lets agree to disagree :) – Bjorn]
It has everything to do with it when you are talking about “Musical Ability”.
No i dont think you have to write an Opera..But when you look at the Influence and Contributions each band member provided to the “Pink Floyd” the percentages are greatly in Rogers favor. Most of the time the other band members were going through divorces or other personal issues and simply could not be bothered to provide material for the group and the projects they were working on at that particular time). I think Roger would have gone on to do it alone too..The albums he knocked out after leaving the floyd prove this amused to death for example. I mean Roger wrote the lyrics and music for DSOTM so saying he wouldn’t have done it alone is nonsense it was in him before he met the other members. I think the band are great and gilmour too. I understand what each member brought to the work they did together but cannot get away with all the Dave Gimour fanboy’s getting their digs into Roger. Just remeber that next time your playing one of his songs on your guitars!
Not you personally Bjorn just the fanboys…
Great website by the way!!
[First of all Tony, the reason I started this thread some years ago was to stir up an idiotic debate… who’s the better. I think we all can agree that Floyd wouldn’t have sounded like Floyd without all four members. They all put their mark on the songs one way or the other. For me, one of the things that makes the hole feeling of Dark Side so special is Nick’s superb drumming. It’s not over the top or too fancy but just what the songs needed. Anyway, I’m always been into guitar playing and I like David’s style so naturally I favour him more than Roger. That doesn’t mean that I don’t value Roger’s work or genius. Of course not but I strongly believe that Floyd history has proven that he couldn’t have done it him self. First of all, he developed the ideas over time through the suite Man and the Journey in 1969, then several lyrics on Obscured and then Dark Side, WYWH, Animals, Wall and Final Cut. AND if you listen to the demo recordings of Dark Side and Wall especially you clearly hear that although Roger has the ideas and the concepts he’s not capable of writing music that we describe as the Floyd sound. That was David and Rick and Ezrin and Kamen had a huge impact on Wall. That can’t be debated. It’s history and even Roger more or less admits that he needed the input to turn his ideas into music. Dark Side, WYWH and Animals are group efforts. Roger wrote the lyrics and had some very vague ideas about the musical approach but the music is largely written by David and Rick. Just listen to the demo tapes and early live versions. That’s not Roger’s signature. Wall and Final Cut is largely Waters, Ezrin and Kamen. David and Rick had very little input. BUT all this doesn’t really describe who’s the better musician. What is a good musician and what makes a great band? Zeppelin would never have worked with just Plant or Page. Beatles would never have worked with just Lennon or McCartney. Floyd worked because Roger managed to write about universal topics in a way that few have done… perhaps only Dylan. He also contributed musically by always basing his ideas in blues traditions. David and Rick didn’t understand much of Roger’s lyrics and political point of view but knew how to turn his ideas and feelings into music that fit the concepts like a glove. Roger’s lyrics would never have had the impact without David’s soulful guitars and Rick’s celestial keyboards. That was the magical combination. Take one out of the equation and it’s not classic Floyd. Division Bell and Amused to Death is not WYWH or Wall. – Bjorn]
Roger , Over and Out! I’m sorry but anyone that thinks Roger Waters is a lesser musician than David Gilmour needs to read up a bit and get their facts straight. Pink Floyd before the Final Cut (the las studio album they worked on together..sort of) Was all about Roger. He Wrote most or nigh on all of the lyrics and music that we mainly remember the floyd for. DSOTM , WYWH, Animals, The Wall, I’m sorry i’m not too keen on the 60’s stuff. They only really started knocking out decent music around obscured by clouds. I can’t get away with all this Syd nonsense. They were better off without him to be honest. And after Roger left yes Pink Floyd played great concerts playing his music and singing his songs but the quality of their studio albums went down in my opinion also. Few decent songs on Momentary and Division Bell…A really poor solo album from Gilmour…I mean the lyrics were just terrible David. Yes he’s a great guitarist and easily my fav but it’s like….well the world is full of great guitarists and piano players etc..But only every decade or so do we get the Waters / Mozarts and Shakspears etc…The people who actually do the graft and write the material for others to perform. When’s your opera due out Dave. ?
[Who’s to judge what music and art really is? Do you have to write The Wall and an opera to be called a musician? I don’t think so. David and Roger are two completely different individuals – both as people and as musicians. Roger had the ability to come up with ideas and topics that were universal for all people. From The Man and the Journey, to Dark Side, WYWH, Animals, Wall and Final Cut he managed to write something that touched a lot of people. The reason is that the topics were about everyday life, the horrors of war, religion etc. Stuff we all can relate to. He also had the ability to develop a thread or concept and write melodies that would make it all in into music. This can be related to how the great composers wrote music, like Mozart, Beethoven etc. They all had a theme. However, I strongly believe that Roger didn’t have the ability to make music that would do justice to his lyrics and concepts. Final Cut, Pros and Cons, Radio Kaos and Amused to Death are all proof of that. Sure, Roger Waters alone isn’t as big as Floyd, but the songs aren’t much better than David’s poor lyrics. The combination of Roger’s lyrics and concepts together with David’s and Ricks musical abilities is what made Floyd what they were. Roger didn’t do it alone and in my opinion never could have done it alone. For me, David will always be the one with the best musical abilities and Roger the one with the ideas and concepts and the ability to point out what was needed for a song to work. I really don’t care who wrote an opera. What’s that got to do with anything? – Bjorn]
Ysolde says:
Guys…. seriously. Let boys be boys.
They always have been (especially rock musicians). The great thing about the whole concept of bandhood is that all members contribute in different ways to create something larger than the sum of the parts. As aptly adressed in the initial posting above, wherein the author wonders why Roger played so much better with the band.
Certainly, Roger is probably more the lyricist, Gilmour has the musicality down pat, but the key thing was always the exact context that was Pink Floyd. Not only of RW and DG – let’s not forget Wright and his amazing synth landscapes and artistical input, hugely overlooked as they are, and Mason’s intriguing soundsamples (Case in point the whole first track of of Dark Side).
Artistic partnership, from what I perceive, is in many ways as challenging as marriage. Add to the complexity there being several individuals involved in stead of two. On top of this, the experience of plunging from comparatively unforced creative expression before fame and breakthrough, into the sudden demanding world of having to produce art and perform with these people every effing day because it’s suddenly your work and you signed a contract with some people and everyone’s eyes is at your little artistic partnership of four people. Oh yeah, and one of your common mates going bonkers from it all, disappearing out of the game alltogether.
The music and lyrics of Pink Floyd alluded to their struggle with all these things from the get-go, as well as expressed their difficulty in accepting the nastier aspects of the music industry. Not strange that a collapse took place in the end – what’s admirable, I find, is that they managed to keep it going as long as they did, and turn all of the above into some of the most brilliant musical art ever along the way.
Me, I’ll keep my fingers crossed that Gilmour will play together with Waters on that performance of The Wall which I bought tickets for, because some things are bigger than the sum of their parts, and it makes no sense to account for individual contribution outside of the context.
Fletcie says:
Ok, this is a 5 year old topic. Just my 50 cents . Could the argument David VS Roger take place before 1985? I don’t think so. Million and million of people watched Gilmour’s Floyd perform since 1987. In the people’s hearts it was still Floyd. . Gilmour led version of Floyd had great sound and David performed all vocal duties magnificent. The man that wrote most of these songs though wasn’t there.
The Pink Floyd live shows without David are the main reason most people today prefer him over Roger. Its not just the people that went to the shows. Word spread out. Even in live 8 Roger bass lines were great, his singing was…crap. (although he’s better now in the wall live).
I watched “Floyd” in 1989, the pigs with testicles were flying, the lyrics were great. I wonder how great Wish you were here would be if it had the name “i sail in my boat” or “i want to buy an island”.
I love Roger’s guitar so much…(not only his solos) they define P.F sound.
But.. there’s a big difference in who is a great instumental player and who is great musician. Gilmour is a great musician.
Roger is better even if he really is an average bass or guitar player.
Gilmour is better live though, i admit that. But he’s not Pink.
Roger Waters is clearly the more talented of the two. David Gilmour is a great guitarist but a pretty average songwriter (hence his dull solo albums and ‘A Momentary Lapse of Reason’.) Roger Waters may not be as good a musician but he writes much better songs – ‘Amused to Death’, his third solo album, is my favourite album of all time, even ahead of Pink Floyd’s best work. Anyone who claims that Waters’ solo work is ‘unlistenable’ or not as good musically as Gilmour’s stuff is an idiot. It’s ten times better musically and there is no comparison as far as music goes.
[I must say I disagree. Keep in mind that what makes Amused what it is is not Rogers ability to write music but lyrics. Amused is like any other Floyd album, written by Roger and arranged by other musicians than him self. I love Amused but musically it doesn’t even come close to Dark Side, WYWH, Animals and Wall. No way. Lyrically… perhaps. – Bjorn]
Russ said (Ya I know he said this over a year ago)
Quote – “The Pros of David Gilmour:
1. Beautiful voice that creates a distinct sound. The vocals on Comfortably Numb, Us and Them, Learning To Fly, Echoes, Time, Sheep, etc are absolutely amazing. The man has the most amazing voice we may ever see. It creates a completely soft and perfect space sound that makes the world feel complete. ” – End of Quote
Was Sheep a typo? That would be Roger Waters you hear singing in Sheep. (and didn’t roadies, or was it Mason that read the Psalm part?) I definitely agree with the rest. Especially Wright and Gilmour singing together.
I overall would give Gilmour the musical edge. (You know I kinda feel like a Gilmour fan-boy and cringe saying that because when they were at their best, IMO, is when they all contributed to the music.) I seem to remember Gilmour saying that he had done quite a bit of the bass parts on the studio albums because he could play them quicker than Roger. I give plenty of credit to Gilmour, Wright Mason, and yes Waters for the great concepts, lyrics and lets not forget some of the music we hear is Roger on the bass and acoustic guitar, also didn’t Waters do some of the synth stuff in On the run?
Actually it’s interesting to find out who contributed what on their albums. Most people I know assume Waters is all bass parts, Wright all keys and synths, Gilmour all guitar work, Mason all percussion.
I’m a big Waters fan, but only a knob would believe he wrote note for note “Pigs,” but I don’t hear Waters running around saying that he wrote it note for note either. (only dopey uniformed fan-boys make those type of claims) When did Waters say “that was a wonderful solo I wrote for Dogs,” and that explosive finale solo in Pigs, I did a really good job writing that,” No! Pffft!
To me there is nothing wrong with Water’s acoustic guitar in that album.
I heard Gilmore rather liked that album, his talk box stuff on Pigs, to me anyways, was very expressive work by him. That is one song that Water’s voice alone suited quite well.
The song Dogs, Gilmour and Water’s voice worked. Enough of me blabbing. (I guess some may have figured out that I kinda liked the like Animals album)
When someone tells me Roger Waters was the genius in Floyd, I don’t argue, the same for Gilmour, Wright or Mason, I don’t argue with it. I enjoy all the members stuff and try not to “crank too much” when I don’t hear the Big Floyd sound when the other members are missing.
I’m not excluding Syd… It is interesting to me, that a lot of the Punk rock community, that I was around at least, really loved Syd’s solo stuff). Anyways, Syd you have places in many fellow musicians hearts.
I have to agree that Roger was definantly the man behind the ideas and not much the music. It really reflects in his live shows as well. Still, haveing said that, I`m still stoked to see him perform the Wall live in October, should be a good one.
I haven’t read through all of the 100+ responses, but I’ll respond by saying that it’s a ridiculous argument because ultimately, the band was not the creation of Waters or Gilmour in the first place. Anyone with an appreciation of history knows that Syd Barrett was the musical genious that formed the band (gave it its name) and put Pink Floyd on the map. Although I am a huge Pink Floyd fan and think that Waters is a fantastic lyricist (although most of his ideas were inspired in some way shape or form by Barrett, i.e. the theme of “Dark Side of the Moon”, “Wish you were Here”, “The Wall”, etc), he simply does not have the creativity of the late Syd Barrett. If Syd had not met his untimely and tragic fate, the band would more than likely have evolved into the most successful band of all time! Furthermore, there’s no doubt that the band would have been more prolific and given the world more than a handful of albums to enjoy. MP
a. lloyd says:
I dont think Gilmour gets enough credit for the success of albums like Animals and The Wall.
For example, most of the classic songs on The Wall are songs co-written by Gilmour.
Apparently, there are a lot of commenters who know nothing about music commenting on songwriting.
Yes, on Animals, Waters did write four of five songs on his own but there were produced by the whole band. Meaning the songs structure changed from Waters original ideas. Wright, Gilmour and Mason had a lot of input as they were the producers of those songs. And anybody with knowledge of producing knows what power that is.
I am willing to assume that Gilmour created many of the guitar parts on Animals but wasn’t given co-writer credits by Roger Waters.
[Credits are always the tricky part for a band and not least for Floyd who had a main writer who hated to share credits. There’s always a fine line between who’s contributing and who’s not. What is a contribution anyway? Do you get credits for changing a word in the lyrics? For slightly altering the melody as a vocalist? Who exactly wrote that chorus or bridge? At least on Animals, Roger came up with the basic ideas for all of the songs. Pigs on the Wing are his 100% while Dogs is perhaps more David and Rick than anybody else because they put their signature stamp on it in terms of melodies, solos, sounds etc. Songs like Sheep and Pigs are perhaps more group efforts like most of the WYWH album. As you point out one has to know how a writing process works. Cheers! – Bjorn]
sale pesic says:
Well, the only thing that I can be sure of is that Dave and Roger were TOGETHER in the band. None of them alone created anything even close to PF perfection. There is no sense in trying to judge them or take sides.
Waters is, was and, without Pink Floyd, would be one of the greatest songwriters ever, without him Pink Floyd would’n be such a supergroup. Gilmour is, was and would be a great musician but, additionally, he has lucky to meet someone like … Waters. It makes no sense to dispute who is better musician. There’s a lot of better musicians than Lennon, McCartney or Waters (specially in technical sense) but is it the matter? Their songs might be arranged by someone else, might sound differend, maybe better, but without them there wasn’t these compositions.
[Floyd wouldn’t have been without Waters and Gilmour figuring out the path after Syd’s departure. To say that either of them could have done it without the other is plain wrong. – Bjorn]
tommie k says:
I beleive, both waters,a nd gilmour,a re truly gifted arstist, that being said… gilmour is the guitar hero, extrordinaire, his solos are mind boggling, , I cant imagine a floyd without his guitar virtuoso, now waers on th e other hand , the lyrical mastermind, who created so many works of art, neither is better , they compliment each other, its all subjective anyways to each there own I like both but together,,, please reunite soon…
One interesting thing I’ve noticed is that plenty of people aren’t big fans of The Final Cut and A Momentary Lapse of Reason, as they don’t sound like ‘true’ Pink Floyd albums. The connection between these two records?- no Richard Wright (though I know he was on the AMLOR tour and played a tiny bit on the record). It’s hard to discuss which is best out of Gilmour and Waters without taking into acount the influence Richard Wright had on the music they wrote- without him and the keyboards and harmony he brought there would have been less to make Pink Floyd stand out from other contemporaries like The Who.
[Very good point! – Bjorn]
probably right about that i was just being very theoretical with that one
i dont see division bell as a guilmour album to the extent that momentary lapse was; rick seemed to be all over it
[Agree. Momentary is more so but I think Bell is a lot closer to Island and not just in terms of the sound but the songs are much more David, rather than him trying to make a Floyd album. – Bjorn]
I always find this debate rather cringeworthy but it seems its usually the waters fans who get shirty about things. I’m very much in the middle; my 2 favorite albums are The Division Bell and Amused to Death; with the wall up high as well. I could point out weaknesses in both Gulmour’s and Waters’ solo work as well as strengths. Rick is also constantly being underestimated in the context of this argument; he is the one who lays the foundations for both guilmour and waters to do their things.
We do seem to idolise musicians a lot because they are so influencial; thats the reason why such a childish fallout has caused so many floyd fans to take sides.
It’s also a bit of a union thing going; as you are a guitarist first and foremost (and a bloody good one) thats why you are more supporting of guilmour in the guitarist’s union. I think maybe its true that the people who consider theselves to be songwriters/poets/artists/innovators etc might tend to side with waters more because its probably more about the intense emotional feel than the polished output. That is just a vague assumption though I would consider myself more in the latter categoy but in both to an extent which is perhaps why i dont really take sides.
In conclusion, if the band wasnt so dysfunctional they wouldve made the unanimously greatest ever floyd album in the early/mid 90s; when you consider how their their creativities all seemed to mature with the evidence of Division Bell, Amused to Death and even Broken China (which has some brilliant atmosphere that only rick can create but on the whole only really works on one level).
[Or would they? I think what made Floyd so unique was the different talents, the tension and the ego. Up until Dark Side they worked as a band. After that it was pretty much built on four individuals trying to get as much of their own input on the albums as possible… Waters winning most of the time since he came up with the ideas. WYWH and Animals are both to some extent the result of a overworked live band worn out and struggling with forces within and with the music industry. Wall and not least Final Cut wouldn’t have happened or sounded like they do without the tension within the band. At this point Roger felt that the rest of the band didn’t contribute at least not to his standards and David wanted to take Floyd in a whole different direction. Last, Division Bell is a Gilmour solo album with Rick and Nick putting their sound on it. In my opinion, the dysfunctional band made the magic. – Bjorn]
This is a very interesting debate and one that I have been questioning lately. I first became a Pink Floyd fan when I was 15 (I’m 18 now), and my view of pink floyd changes everyday as I listen to new albums. The question of who is better constantly runs through my mind!
The Pros of David Gilmour:
1. Beautiful voice that creates a distinct sound. The vocals on Comfortably Numb, Us and Them, Learning To Fly, Echoes, Time, Sheep, etc are absolutely amazing. The man has the most amazing voice we may ever see. It creates a completely soft and perfect space sound that makes the world feel complete.
2. Guitar solos…the solos in songs like Money, Time, and Comfortably Numb are amazingly trippy and take you to the moon and back when you listen to them. I think that Gilmour is unique in his ability to capture an audience with pure sound quality. His playing is beautiful and I have never heard one Pink Floyd fan speak negatively about his tones. You also cannot forget how talented Gilmour is at slide guitar.
3. Sound mixing/producing: If you watch the VH1 documentary about the creation of Dark Side, you see that Alan Parsons and David Gilmour both had a huge role in mixing and creating the unique sounds of dark side. Without Gilmours expansive knowledge of sound equipment, Dark Side would not exist.
4. Solo Albums: I am a huge fan of both David Gilmour and On An Island. I listen to these albums and they are absolutely fantastic and you can hear the wonderful guitar.
The Cons of David Gilmour:
1. The Solo Albums: I know I listed these as a positive, but you listen to Gilmours solo albums, and they are not Pink Floyd! They do not sound remotely like Floyd. You still have the beautiful voice and the distinct guitar, but you lose the deep bass and drums that you can only attribute to Roger Waters and Nick Mason.
The Pros of Roger Waters:
1. Bass!!! When people tell me Roger Waters is not a musician, I immediately say, “Go Listen to The Happiest Days of Our Lives!”
If you listen to that song and don’t appreciate Roger’s bass licks, you need to pick up a bass guitar and try to play them. I can assure you his bass guitar is amazing.
2. Lyrics/Concepts/Ideas: Roger is a genius, and I don’t think anybody can deny that. To write albums that are not only a financial success but an artistic success because of the concepts is amazing. Yes the music was great, but listen to Gilmours solo albums. They do not have concepts and do not sound good.
3. Songwriting: Once again for everyone that says Roger Waters is not musical, please listen to Money, Eclipse, and Brain Damage. These three amazing songs from Floyd’s Dark Side were all written exclusively by Waters (except solos).
The Cons of Roger Waters:
1. Vocals: I cannot express in words how terrible some of Rogers vocals are. Some of the songs on the Wall, Such as Vera, have such a beautiful melody and then Roger comes in and ruins it with his whiny, annoying screams that really honestly sound like nails running down a chalkboard. He also ruins in the Flesh with his vocals…it sounds like he has rope tied around his testicles when he sings. And the worst part of all of this is that on the Dark Side of the Moon his vocals were so sick!!!! Why couldn’t he use the same vocals he did on Dark Side!!!
2. Solo Albums: Okay, so Roger Waters solo albums are not all bad. The Pros and Cons of Hitchiking is actually a really interesting album, and some of it sounds good too! Eric Clapton plays all the guitar on this album, and you can see that even a guitar legend like Eric Clapton cannot save Roger the way that David Gilmour did. I honestly like The Pros and Cons of Hitchiking, but Radio Kaos is pure dog shit.
Overall, I think that Pink Floyd is only good when Roger Waters and David Gilmour are together and are helped by Rick Wright and Nick Mason. When you listen to Rogers solo work and Davids solo work, you immediately see that they feed off of each other and that no solo work they do will ever sound as good as the Floyd. I wish that those old bastards would have swallowed their pride so that I could see them live, I am only 18 so I never got the chance to see them live together, except for the television coverage of Live 8, but come on. Now that Rick Wright has been eaten by the worms, persay, it will never be possible to see the real floyd. It bums me out!
My dream Floyd is Roger Waters not being arrogant, playing the bass like he did on the wall, not singing out horrible vocals that hurt my ears, and creative and provocative song writing that makes you think about your entire life. David Gilmour playing his beautiful melodic guitar riffs and belting out the most beautiful vocals on this planet, all while he mixes all the ideas roger gets into a presentable idea, and slide guitar that makes you tear at the eyes. Rick Wright playing keyboards and singing choruses with Gilmour, such as Echoes and Us and Them. And Nick Mason rocking the shit out of his drum kit while all this trippy shit is happening! Floyd is the shit either way.
If you think Gilmour is better you are right, and if you think Waters is better you are right. But what you need to realize is they are only best when they are with each other.
[Thanks for your post! I agree that Floyd was best when Roger was in the band. I’m not convinced that it’s because he had all the ideas as some will claim, but as you say, David and Roger created magic when they were together and I also want to add Wright. In short, David and Wright provided the music while Roger provided the ideas and lyrics.
I don’t agree that Dark Side wouldn’t have happened without David’s equipment knowledge. It’s the work of Chris Thomas and Alan Parsons. No doubt. Floyd probably had a lot of know how about how to produce an album at the time but if you know Parsons work, it’s all him. I also think that Roger had a lot more to say than David, who was more interested in the music. His producing skills came much later.
When judging David’s solo album I think you need to consider how they were made and when. None of them were meant to sound like Floyd. It was (and still is) a huge disappointment to many fans but nevertheless a misconseption. His first solo album was a hasty project between Animals and Wall. David was very eager to make a new Floyd album and enjoyed the Animals tour immensly while Roger hated it and put everything to a hault and wrote as some sort of a therapy. David’s album is very much a group effort between him and his band mates from Bullitt, the band he were in prior to joining Floyd. I love the album and although it could have sounded a lot different if he’d approached it differently I think it’s a great homage to David’s influences.
When About Face was released, Floyd was over… at least so they thought. Both David and the record company wanted to launch a new carriere and portray David as a solo artist… a guitar legend. The album is as far away from Floyd as you can get but that’s the purpose.. disappointing or not. Compared to his first solo album and On an Island, I personally think About Face is crap but there are some great songs on it.
On an Island is a different album all together. I don’t think there’s more Floyd in it than the previous two but it’s much more David and a thought through project. I think with On an Island David finally got to make the album he always wanted. It would have sounded differently 10-20-30 years ago but the process was just how he wanted it. To me, On an Island is what Division Bell would have sounded if it had David Gilmour labelled on the cover and not Pink Floyd.
I think David’s solo albums stands out better than Roger’s because David manages to write good music that lasts, while Roger’s ideas fall through without the proper arrangements and melodies… except for Amused to Death, which is a master peice in any way.
I agree that Roger’s voice is horrible at times but would Floyd have sounded the same without it? I think many of the songs are what they are jsut because of his voice. It underlines the song and lyrics in many ways and it’s a powerful contrast to David’s voice.
I also agree that Roger is a great bassist. Again it comes down to the fact that Floyd is stronger than the four and without Rogers style, Floyd sounds a lot different… hence Delicate Sound of Thunder and PUSLE. But you must also keep in mind that David did a lot of the bass stuff on the albums. Most of the Wall is David.
Dan Hetfield says:
man, you are totally right.
david gilmour was the musical talent in pink floyd, period.
waters was creative indeed, but david made it all come true [along with richard wright, of course (RIP)].
as a musician, i really, reaally love and respect gilmour.
without david, waters’ nowadays performances, concerts, sound just…empty…plain…with feeling or passion. right, he uses like 3 guitar players to try and fill up david’s parts but…it’s just not right, it’s not accurate and it’s definetively not what one would expect.
on the other hand, analyze david’s live performaces…they’re just flawless; tka for example the “live at gdansk dvd and cd”…it’s just beautiful, flawless, and he definetively does not need waters as much as waters needs him.
david gilmour rules.
i am still going for gilmour, he is the best 1000000 times better than that madman waters. does he have the charisma of gilmour, can he present any concert like Gilmour hats off gilmour gilmour the best is gilmour
take a look at momentary lapse of reason and division bell greatest albums with nerve cooling music does that waters ever have such music
just answer to this
There are three Pink Floyd albums that lack that all-important “band interplay” that is so crucial to Pink Floyd music: “The Wall”, “The Final Cut” and “Momentary Lapse of Reason”. “The Wall” succeeds anyway simply because the material is so undeniably good. “The Final Cut” is, for me, is simply a Waters solo record. “Momentary Lapse of Reason” is the worst album in the Floyd catalogue. It is a cynical attempt to sound like classic Floyd with none of the edge, atmosphere, lyrics or band interplay found on actual Floyd records. I love Dave, and just dropped a ton of cash to see him in NY next year, but MLOR is an embarrassment to any ardent listener of Pink Floyd, I admit that “Division Bell” was a vast improvement.
Auslander says:
In my view, the Floyd’s best music occured during the period when they appeared to be the most collaborative: Meddle, Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals, and mayte even The Wall. Just as Momentary Lapse and Division Bell are virtually Gilmour solo albums, The Final Cut is even moreso a Waters solo album. At least, in Momentary Lapse and Division Bell, Gilmour allowed (indeed, appeared to encourage) input from the other members. The Final Cut is Waters, through-and-through. I like Waters’ solo albums (probably better than Gilmour’s overall) but none of the solo albums (even the best ones like Final Cut and Amused to Death) can compare to any of the Floyd albums.
I was just discussing this topic with a friend not realizing that it was such a popular topic! I googled it and got this site. I brought up the point (to my friend – who is a Syd devotee) that I had just recently watched both ‘The Pulse’ (’95) dvd and Gilmour solo from Royal Festival Hall/London (’01) as well as Waters’ ‘In the Flesh’ (’00). I was amazed that Waters did not sing a lot of the lyrics on ‘Flesh’. Was he afraid? Gilmour handled ALL of the lyrics on both Pulse and RFH with ease.
I’ve always been of the opinion that rock bands are ‘guitar driven’ (see VH, AC/DC, Zep, SRV, any Clapton project, Hendrix, etc.) and have always been a big fan of Gilmour. Floyd wouldn’t have excelled like they did without David . . . they would have been left with ‘See Emily Play’ as their legacy.
Love the site – sorry it took so long to find it – thank the gods for google!
[Thanks Steve! Glad you found your way through the jungle :) As you can see, the topic is very much alive and well and it seems to stir up some hard felt feelings from the fans. It’s not an important topic at all and one bound to be a bit partial given that this is a Gilmour site but it’s always fun with a healthy discussion don’t you think? Cheers! – Bjorn]
I think It’s increadibly mindless stupidity to argue or even write off Waters position in Pink Floyd they were a unit and a tight one I would not write any of them off because I think a true Pink Floyd fan will like all the bands members and does not have the arrogance to put them in contest its just outragious. I when to see Waters when he plaecy Dark Side of the Moon at liverpool and I think his performance was absolutly brilliant he really did bring out the best performance I ve ever seen Im still waiting to see Gilmour live but my views are still the same there equals in my opinion even though my favourite member of the band is Gilmour I would never even think Pink Floyd would have made it off the ground without Roger and he is an inspiration to me so please bear in mind the audiance your making this blog for because I dont approve of it.
[Fair enough but the reason I wrote this post was to stir up a healthy discussion. After all this is a David Gilmour site… not Pink Floyd. – Bjorn]
Auke van den Berg says:
What I miss in all these comments is the fact that in the ‘golden’ era of Pink Floyd (the 1970s) you never wondered who was ‘best’. Pink Floyd was a band, a group, you hardly knew who its members were, nor did you need to know (they made it a habit not to have photos of themselves on their album sleeves, a good thing because it tells you: it’s about the music, not about us). Things went downhill as soon as egos became important (admittedly, especially Roger’s), though I still like Animals, The Wall and The Final Cut. I do not consider the Roger-less PF albums real PF albums, they’re a bit like later Rolling Stones albums: still trying to sound like Pink Floyd but the magic is gone. I think they should have stuck to the non-ego principle and quit by the late 1970s. I’m not really interested in the Waters-Gilmour controversy. It’s like Lennon and McCartney: they brought out the best in each other, but it could only work for so long.
jabspike says:
Yes sir waters could play (the bass) and this is a question you did not ask can david nick or wright writ lyrics and the answer is no!!!! THAT is what made the pink floyd good rogers lyrics and davids music
DGRocks says:
Just a little perspective here. In 1986, Roger Waters claimed that “Pink Floyd touring without me would be like the Beatles without Lennon and McCartney”.
Pink Floyd came to the Capitol Center in DC and sold out 4 consecutive nights (I went to two of those shows and they blew me away!). Reviews were off the charts, excellent shows.
Waters played his Radio Kaos tour in the same arena a few months later and sold less than 50% of the tickets for one night. Reviews were horrible.
Waters has always thought more of his importance than there actually is. While I am certainly glad he was around, it is obvious that the guitar and keys are what makes the Pink Floyd what it is. He had good concepts, writing and ideas (except for the Final Cut) and the rest of the band made it happen.
DG > RW any day of the week, and real Floyd fans know that.
TUS says:
Hi Bjorn, I agree with the live sound and don’t think i would go to see Waters live as it just doesn’t match his quest for perfection in the studio and your backing a loser without Gilmour playing Gilmour.
However, i believe that just like the live shows, Waters would have had most of the control with regards to when and what was played and the overall sound in the studio from 72/83. Waters would have given Gilmour plenty of room to express himself with the solos and guitar tones etc but i think that as creator of most, it was his direction to the other members that glued their best albums together giving their unique sound. His awareness of song structure, texture and atmosphere is in my opinion stronger than the other members.
For me, The Pro’s and Con’s in many ways sounds more like Floyd than Floyd. It has all the same studio hallmarks that define their 72/83 period. eg songs all cleverly linked with sound effects with purpose and it’s as atmospheric as any other Floyd album. The other Waters albums have been crafted in the same way so they remind me more of Floyd in their earlier period.
I remember when MLOR was first released i thought it was kinda Floydish but all the uniqueness of the earlier albums was missing. It was just songs on a album like everyone else with effects here and there to try to create atmosphere but without any real reason other than well thats what Floyd do so lets put something here. (Hope DG doesn’t read this!) Nowdays Floyd sound like Floyd because thats the way they have sounded for the past twenty odd years. It is a great sound but as the structures changed they seem more like Gilmour albums rather than Floyd albums.
Again all in all its a tough call but i think Waters just shades it. If they were a painter, Waters eyes seen the vision and soaked in the atmosphere and Gilmour’s hands crafted the masterpiece. It takes both to create great art!
Hi Bjorn, best site on the net, afterall who needs tits n ass when you have so many Gilmour facts to fumble with!
Anyway, Gilmour vs Waters. To be fair, it should be Gilmour, Wright and Mason vs Waters in a post Floyd context. In a live performance the original musicians are always going to have the uperhand, particularly if you have in my opinion the best sounding guitarists that us mere mortals have ever heard. Lets face it, Gilmour could solo over postman pat with a black and white cat strapped to his face and would still sound heavenly!
So in my opinion it’s unfair to judge solely or primarily on the live performances as any gig with Gilmour will surpass all others. Moreover, Waters vocal style is unsuited to the live situation, as it’s all about whispers to a scream, phrase and word emphasis and a general vocal which is as articulate as Gilmour’s playing.
Floyd Years; For me it’s a bit like the Lennon and McCartney. They done all their best work when they where together and i think it would be hard to argue otherwise with Floyd. I believe Waters was the driving force and the creator of all their best work, with Gilmour adding the touch of musical penance, especially in the sublime solo’s that have inspired all on this site to play. Without each other there would never have been any of the classic albums, so in that respect, it think it doesn’t matter either way.
Post Floyd; I love all the Waters material, as it is typical Waters AKA Floyd (The Wall, Final Cut) etc. Dark, deep and unique. However, although i get the impression ( and it pains me to say this) that Gilmour’s Floyd have tried to remain true to the original Floyd sound effects, voices and oddity’s if you like! They seem to sometimes be put together for the sake of it rather that Waters keen perception as to when and where you should add obscurities for effect.
However, it is a joy to continue to hear gilmour’s solo’s since the break-up, with marooned being a song to die for. (don’t do it, life is good!) I also like many of the songs from both parties since the split.
They won’t get together again as Waters would have to take control in order to make another classic Floyd album. That’s the way it was and that’s the way it would have to be, so it ain’t gonae happen.
All in all, dusk to dusk, dawn to dawn, for million’s of year’s man just lived like the animals, then something happened, they heard PINK FLOYD!
[Well, I think we agree and as you point out, just like with Lennon/McCartney, Pink Floyd (all four members) are greater than the individual member’s solo career. Waters had most of the ideas and between 1972-83 he was the main creative force in the band. However, and what’s really my point with this post, is that although Waters had the ideas for Dark Side, WYWH, Animals and Wall, they wouldn’t have sounded anything near what they do if it hadn’t been for the three other members and especially Gilmour/Wright (Wright wasn’t too much involved in Wall though). Roger has the unique ability to hatch ideas and point out what he likes and how he wants it but Gilmour and Wright was always the ones to realize these ideas and create the atmosphere and unique sound of Pink Floyd. I think that’s what makes Roger’s and David’s recent tours so different too. Yes, it’s an advantage to have Wright on keyboards and vocals but I doubt Roger’s tour would have sounded much different with Wright instead of Carin. Roger tells his musicians what to do and they do it down to the last detail. Gilmour never tells his musicians what to do but he makes sure that they’re handpicked according to the sound he wants. Personally I think that’s a better way to make the old Floyd tunes more authentic. Roger’s band are trying too hard and one has to keep in mind that Floyd were never great musicians but they had a unique sense of creating textures and a certain feeling.
I think Pink Floyd without Roger is as much or less Floyd as they were with Syd. To some, Piper is the only true Floyd album but their most selling albums are from the “Roger era”. Personally I prefer Division Bell over Piper but I admit that it’s not really a Floyd record compared to Meddle or Animals. – Bjorn]
Gospel Music Lyric Page says:
Hi there Expert, what made you want to write on Gilmour VS. Waters? I was wondering, because I have been thinking about this since last Wednesday.
[Basically because I wanted to stir up some feelings and a debate among you people. I love them both… Gilmour and Waters. Cheers! – Bjorn]
Vincent Hanna says:
Roger Waters is the British equivalent to Bob Dylan: He should be locked in a closet to write his poems and never let out. He can slip his lyrics under the door for others to perform. The guy is a complete embarrassment when he performs. I couldn’t bring myself to see him on tour in 2006 when he performed DSOTM. I listened to a boot of a show later and I am glad I skipped it. Terrible! Live 8 showed that. When he burst in on vocals for WYWH, it sounded like someone’s dead aunt took the mic.
And if he’s such a great musician, why does he tour with another bass player? I mean who does tour with multiple bassists?
Someone earlier mentioned Water was the chief singer, and that’s not true. Gilmour sings all of DSOTM except when Waters takes Brain Damage/Eclipse. Waters may have sung most of the pieces on the Wall, but we all know his control freak history on that record. If Gilmour, Wright, and Mason had not kept Waters in check over the years, much of the PF records – including DSOTM may have sounded far too self-indulgent. The Wall has too many moments of too much Roger. It is too bad Waters was such a control freak and/or the others sat back and did nothing. I think it might have been a far better record – more to the standard of DSOTM and WYWH. As for the Final Cut, rubbish. Unlistenable.
And for all of Waters’ anti-war speeches, I happen to believe he’s a war monger. After all, if there were no wars, he’d have nothing to write about.
PF sans Waters may not be lyrically up to everyone’s standards (though I still like MLOR and Div Bell very much), musically those three of light years ahead of ol’ Roger Dodger. The music is mature, sophisticated, and complex. Waters still writes about Margret Thatcher with the same light and easy melodies rehashed from over the years.
Of all the members of PF, tho, Syd was the real writer, leaps and bounds over Waters, and Waters knows it and was always jealous of him. Had Syd not suffered from mental illness, I put his work over Lennon/McCartney – just an opinion.
[Wow! Even I don’t dare to be this outspoken :) I must say tho, that Final Cut has some great Gilmour moments. The solos are not groundbreaking but the tone is awesome. – Bjorn]
Ricky Gofourth says:
Roger Waters is a great musician is his own right, but……. Not only is he tone def, but he’s mediocer at everything he does. Also, tends to stick to one subject when writing his music. David Gilmour is adverse, much better musician, and signer than Roger. The only thing I give Roger is his placement of lyrics, set aside from the repeditiveness within them.
Lucas Ferrari says:
Well… What I think is… P. Floyd is not P. Floyd without Roger, as it is not P. Floyd without David. Same thing to Rick and Nick.
The band is only decreasing since the little fights and discussions have gain an bigger dimension…
I’m on Gilmours side. I saw Pink Floyd twice in 1994, and no other concert since has even come close to matching it (except Aussie Floyd, but that’s a different story) . The music, sound, the light show, it was just and awesome experience. Anyway, about 7 or 8 years ago Roger Waters came to town. I figured this concert woud satisfy my Floyd fix . . . . WRONG! Maybe I went in with my expectations to high, but the concert really was horrible. They sounded like a cover band butchering the songs. I started getting anoyed during Shine On, and by the time they had finished Money, I had enough. I actually walked out half way through the concert. I’ve been to alot of concerts, and that was the first time I have ever walked out in disgust. Roger Waters actually pissed me off enough to leave.
There’s hardly anything left to be said on this topic, but why not lumber you all with another opinion!
It seems general concensus that both Waters and Gilmour had huge imput into Pink Floyd, and with the two of them still going strong in their own seperate ways, the fans of both have a lot to be thankful for.
Personally, I don’t have a bad word to say about either of them, I recently bought David’s new DVD (it was as close as I could get living in Australia), and went to see Roger earlier in the year, and I certainly wasn’t disapponted in either.
I have to say, when people talk about the P.F. sound, very little (if any) of it comes from Waters. David and Richard have developed their own very unique style, and personally that is what I want to get out of the music. With no-one writing new tunes specifically for the Floyd (though David, Polly and the guys are doing brilliantly under David’s own name), it comes down to hearing either the authentic sound from David and Richard, or what is essentially cover music by Roger and his band.
In short, now that the definitive articles exist on record, it is a matter of the feeling of performance, and personally, I think there is more emotion in the voices and playing of David and Richard than there is with Rogers band, simply because no-one grasps the material like it’s originators.
I have to say in Roger’s favour that while lyrics don’t usually mean much to me, he always manages to be poignant and eloquent, but the Floyd were a musical vessel for his lyrics which is unequalled so far. Polly’s lyrics are always meaningful and stirring, but personally are easier for me to relate to because in my experience they tend to deal with less traumatic subject matter (Try listening to The Final Cut and On an Island back to back). Personally, the increasingly mellow music coming from David and Richard seems to suit it’s current place alongside Polly’s writing perfectly, and likewise with Rogers slightly more aggressive delivery and his current touring band.
It’s all a matter of preference, but ultimately, if you listen to their seperate work, (and I was surprised how much of the Floyd sound exists in Richards ‘Broken China’ album), the P.F. sound does not come from Roger. I have to say with the utmost respect for Roger and his work, if you are listening to him over David, it’s not the Pink Floyd sound you’re interested in, it’s Roger’s Pink Floyd ‘message’.
Waters had the ideas, Gilmour and Wright had the ability to take them, and tweak them out musically. Listen to Waters’ demos of Darkside found on ClASSIC ALBUMS. And in (what I think is right) an issue of Guitar World in 2005, Gilmour talks about his writing partnership with Waters in regards to Darkside. “Roger was keen on keeping the album very dry, and acoustic. I wanted it wet, and swampy with tons of reverb”. Waters’ demos were very basic, but because of Gilmour, Wright, and Mason’s playing styles, they turned it into what it is. You can argue blah blah about Gilmour vs Waters, who’s better who’s worse…at the end of the day, I’d rather see Gilmour, just because I know that live, he sounds a hell of a lot more like Floyd, which is what everyone loves. Waters, yeah, he sounds different live, tries to sing the songs that he didn’t sing on the record (Time, Us and Them), and for that fact, makes it sound different. NOt bad, just different. I saw him in 2006, a great concert no doubt, but different in some songs. And of course the people who TRULY know music and appreciate the unbelievable musicianship that the Floyd have given us, know that if you took Floyd as a quartet, and took one of those men out, you would not have a Floyd. Period. In terms of Waters’ not “getting it right”, I’d agree with Bjorn. Flat out, Comfortably Numb does not call for a dueling guitar solo…
Those two are like the yin and the yang. I’ve seen both live and they have different but equal styles. I saw Gilmour’s Pink Floyd three times and used to think Gimour was better. I just saw Waters in May. Waters makes it sound like the album, which is very cool Vera Lynn through Comfortably Numb sounded just like the Wall album. Gilmour seems more loose, and soothing.
[Not to be cruel but part of the reason why it sounds like the album when Waters is playing is because it is the album you’re hearing. He’s using backtracks/playback for most of the Wall songs (orchestra etc) and he is miming his own pre-recorded voice on stuff like Vera, Have a Cigar, Fletcher Memorial etc. – Bjorn]
Cshaw,
Okay, I will give you the point for calling “Dogs of War” a bad 80’s-style song, and it was, but I like it :D
Haha, wasn’t my intention to exclude our favourite keyboardist from the credit he deserves, because Wright and Gilmour together are responsible for all the musical “geniousry” that Pink Floyd offered.
Cshaw says:
Just as a quick reply, of course this is all just opinion. I would liken this whole argument to the never ending “Who was the best Beatle?” debate. There are no definite awnsers. You could probably also try to convince me that George was the best Beatle because he was the great musician of the group.
To Matt:
Saying that Glimour isn’t as self indulgent as Waters is true but one has to look at Gilmours attempts at being a great song writer while falling flat on his face. Dogs of War? It was a bad 80’s song and that says a lot concidering all the bad songs of that era. Let’s not even try to put most of Momentary Lapse of Reason in context with Pink Floyd material because it is so lackluster. All of Gimours works without Waters sound very dated in my mind. Radio KAOS sounds very dated in Waters solo career but it stands alone in that respect in my mind.
I really think Waters would be concidered a much more influencial artist if he were a more likeable person. Gilmour is impossible to hate while Waters is very difficult to like. Waters has a terrible persona and I think that dampens his “legacy”.
Again, I love Gilmour, I love Wright, HELL I LOVE NICK MASON, but in my opinion Gilmour can not be a front man or an ideas man or a song writer. Let him tinker with melodies and effects to other peoples work and he is one of the most talented guitarist in rocks history.
Waters has had many talented guitarists play on his solo albums and none of them ever have the oppurtunity to really be great because Waters is so demanding and such a control freak. His songs are still more interesting and constructed much better. I will agree that all of his solo works are hard to listen to as a whole but many of the individual songs have their own unique merits.
To Bjorn: I agree Waters is a prick but it doesn’t effect my opinion of what he has done as an artist.
[Not at all… I deeply respect Waters for what he has created but as you point out, he’s difficult to like as a person and the way he behaves at times and what he says about the Floyd legacy really pisses me off. In my mind he is wasting his talent. I mean, Bob Dylan is known to be a pain but he is respected much due to his ability to work with other artists. Waters manages to ruin most relationships because he just have to have it his way. Eric Clapton quit in the middle of the 84 tour because Waters didn’t want the greatest blues guitarist in the world to improvise… But as I said, – he is one of the few great songwriters of our time. – Bjorn]
Cshaw, I seriously respect your opinions, but I see it as only that. This whole debate is purely subjective, so no one is actually wrong.
Gilmour and Waters working together is purely epic. This is due to the same reasons you said – Gilmour is the musician’s musician, while Water’s is the ideas man.
So it’s obvious why both sound unlike themselves while being without each other, expecially on solo albums, because Gilmour doesn’t have the heavy social commentary from Waters, and Waters doesn’t have the brilliant ability to bring it all together in an epic musical shell like Gilmour could.
As for 1994’s “Division Bell” tour, you should’ve expected “Division Bell” songs to be on the setlist. You don’t tour an album while playing only a couple of songs off of it.
It’s easy to understand why there were “Momentary Lapse” songs on the setlist; songs like “Learning to Fly”, “Sorrow” and “Dogs of War” were actually good.
No matter how you slice it; Gilmour is a great musician. Waters is a good ideas man. Do either of them make a great leader? No. Waters is like you said Cshaw; a perfectionist. Not only is he a perfectionist, he’s an un-comprimising type of perfectionist. We can see that with the results of half of “The Wall”, which could have been much better than it already was (it was an amazing album) if only he had lightened up.
“The Final Cut” was total rubbish. And when you look at it, it was in near every respect a Waters solo album. Looking at Water’s other solo albums, you just don’t have the level of listenability because Waters is so worried about being considered a profound lyricist by his peers rather than making a good album.
And that is where Gilmour is different. Gilmour is as self-indulgent as Waters, so he would rather do what he loves – play the guitar – instead of trying to write deep and profound lyrics. Making an overall good album, with quite flowing lyrics and great flowing music is far better than making purposefully over-the-top lyrics in an attempt to be profound and garbage-quality music to go with it.
And that’s where it stands. This is all my subjective opinion, but we can all agree that Gilmour was the musical genious behind Pink Floyd, and Waters was the lyrical genious behind Pink Floyd. But IMHO, Gilmour solo is far more listenable than Waters solo.
– Matt
[Great comment Matt! I totally agree. This is a Gilmour vs Waters post but let’s not forget the tremendous input from Richard Wright over the years. It was really both Wright and Gilmour that made Waters’ ideas come a live musically and there’s no doubt that David appreciate that fact as he brought him on for the latest tour to be able to re-create the magic they had. That’s one of the things that really pisses me of when it comes to Waters… that he gives Wright no credit what so ever. – Bjorn]
“(Side note: Although the album is over 25 years old, comparing the songs written by Waters on “Ummagumma†with the songs written by Gilmour there is absolutly no comparisson. Gilmour had 1 great song on it while all of Waters’ songs were quite unique in that time period)”
Small Furry Animals… is certainly unique, but is it any good?? Nope, it´s unlistenable.
Grantchester Meadows is a nice little ditty, but is it unique? Nope.
The Narrow Way on the other hand is very interesting. It holds the embryo of the sound and song structure that starts with Meddle. Their first really good album IMO.
I’ll keep it short. Roger Waters solo career was a crapshoot, nothing Pink Floyd did without him is worth listening too. See the difference?
I like a few reviewers saying how Waters solo albums weren’t great musically. Becks performances on “Amused to Death” are outstanding as are Claptons on “The Pros and Cons of Hitchiking”. Sure, “Radio KAOS” is a very dated sound but so are all of Gilmours solo albums.
Gilmour has a great sound and plays as passionatly as any guitarist in the modern/classic rock era, but the songs are so boring and dull that they are very difficult to listen to.
I saw PF on the Division Bell tour and was quite impressed with the visual aspects of the show while totally disapointed in the set lists and most of the older songs. More than half of the set list included “Momentary Lapse of Reason” songs and “Division Bell” songs which were just as boring live as they were on the album.
Seeing Waters on his ’99 tour (99 or 00) I was impressed with the setlist. Only a song or two from RK and the rest from his better solo albums. It seemed even he realized how dated and boring RK was and left it in the 80’s where it belonged.
There is no match for the early days of Gilmour in Pink Floyd, from Ummagumma on both Gilmour and Waters matured from album to album. This maturity in some ways hindered the band into believe songs like “Welcome to Machine” and “Have a Cigar” were creative and unique. Like all bands and artists Pink Floyd had a few stinkers and a few really fantastic works. It’s just how it goes.
In the end Gilmour is a shell of what he was with Waters because he is now the “creative mind” behind Pink Floyd and his own solo works, something that he really shouldn’t be doing. Gilmour was fantastic at getting tones to match voices, effects and Rick Wrights keyboarding, his ear for good sounding and good fitting guitars is second to none. His song writing and composission are terrible.
Waters was able to create several good albums after Pink Floyd because he is a perfectionist, a solid lyric writer, a fantastic song composer and he has a lot of unique ideas for meshing non musical components into music. His solo albums since the Pink Floyd break up have had a lot of powerful messages. Sure, these solo albums seems to be missing that wonderful Gilmour tone and unrepeatable synergy that Richard Wright and Gilmour were able to create, but they don’t lack heart and passion, something every Pink Floyd album without Waters and every Gilmour solo album has been missing.
I respect both for their contributions to music and my life, but the reality is Gilmour isn’t and shouldn’t be a leader. Waters has been and always will be a born leader with little true musical talent when it comes to playing instruments.
(Side note: Although the album is over 25 years old, comparing the songs written by Waters on “Ummagumma” with the songs written by Gilmour there is absolutly no comparisson. Gilmour had 1 great song on it while all of Waters’ songs were quite unique in that time period)
[You got balls writing this on a David Gilmour site… I’ll give you that. – Bjorn]
In the “war” between Gilmour and Waters, I’ve always been waving the Gilmour flag, but I by no means think that Waters isn’t due his rightful credit for the IDEAS behind Floyd.
Though, as it seems, people’s greatest memory of the Floyd is the ‘golden years’, ie 1969-1979. But the 1981-1994 Pink Floyd created some of the greatest songs of those eras. Mind you I think “Momentary Lapse” was certainly one of Pink Floyd’s least popular albums, but it was certainly a good album, just it was created by Gilmour with Waters’ style of leading the group, and we have seen the result.
1994’s “Division Bell” seals it for me proving that a Waters-less Pink Floyd was just as good as the old times, minus the high level of lyricism that Waters generated, the sort of lyricism that put Waters and Gilmour into their famous argument about the role of music and lyrics in a song, Gilmour arguing that music shouldn’t be a vehicle for the lyrics, but that they should work together to create a melodic artwork.
Either way, I respect both, though I feel that Waters has recieved too much credit for Pink Floyd, or at least, David hasn’t recieved enough.
strat player 21 says:
i hate waters, he sucks, he can’t even perform the 70’s period songs, (Shine on, DSOTM, Animals, wish you,) Gilmour with post water floyd does them better. Without the rest of floyd, waters is nothing. IF u see Roger perform in concert again Bjorn, do me a favor and flip him off, thanx.
[Steady old boy… – Bjorn]
Did you watch the Live Earth concert, I just did, and I saw Waters perform, wow all I can say is he just doesn’t have it anymore. His bass playing was off and so was his singing, plus he had backing bassists. He played Another Brick In the Wall. The lead guitarist really did a good job of capturing Gilmour in my opinion, however the other guitarist was not very good at all, his playing and tone were off, I’m sorry but I don’t think the Gilmour tone comes from les pauls into voxes.
[Yeah I saw it… What can I say… – Bjorn]
When I’m pissed at the world I listen to Roger and when I need a boost of inspiration and motivation I listen to David…Roger seems to have this “evil” way of doing things which in some way is cool and Dave’s sound is the “light”(not to sound like star wars or anything) so I guess its all about mood…although I prefer Dave I always recommend a Waters album first to all my friends….you cant have one without the other I guess…and that’s the way it is:)
PS thanks for the shirt and amp tips Bjorn!
[Yeah, I agree… Waters has that evil side and Wall and Amused to Death is doing the job when you want to feel sorry for your self. I think David’s first album from ’78 is my ultimate feel good album… The songs just makes you sit back and drift away. – Bjorn]
I am a younger Pink Floyd fan in that I really only got into their music about 3 years ago. I have read quite a bit on this forum about the difference between the live shows put on by David Gilmour and Roger Waters, so I decided to find out for myself. I bought the Pulse and In the Flesh DVDs to get an idea of what you guys are talking about. Hands down, Pulse is much better, in my opinion. For the most part, Pulse sounds like Pink Floyd. Granted, it helps that Pulse has 3 original members, but everything about the show was better…..the lights, the sound….When I watched In the Flesh, I felt like I was watching some locals covering Pink Floyd songs….yes, they are obviously better than cover bands, but the sound was so different. That left handed guitarist was interesting to watch….the first thing I noticed was the backwards strings he uses. That was weird to see and watch. He was very good, but his actions/movements were so distracting that it was hard to enjoy his playing….I thought he was having seizures half the time. And then there was that old guy who got his 30 seconds of fame with a little piece of the Money solo…but I was waiting for him to start smashing his guitar on the stage. Just too much overreaction in my opinion. As for the sound, I was trying to decide if I was listening to Pink Floyd, or Eddie Van Halen doing Pink Floyd his way. The guitarists were very good, but they were too good in terms of how they played their guitars….Pink Floyd is not a fast guitar solo band, and most of the solos were played very fast. I have nothing against fast solos…..my favorite guitarist is Kirk Hammett from Metallica…but not in a Pink Floyd song…..it was just too much and it completely took away from the emotion of the music. Now I will probably get flamed by RW purists, but thats ok, and I am sure someone will say that I need to see it live to understand the emotions of it, but in all fairness, I have not see either band live……I am only comparing what I saw on DVD. anyways….I enjoy the site.
[Hi Jason! Well, this is more or less how I see it too… I know that Waters fans hate me when I say this but you are correct, – it sounds like a cover band with extremely professional musicians and Waters as a special guest. There’s no Floyd wibe and I didn’t sense that when I saw them last year either. That being said, I enjoy Doyle’s guitar playing and tone, although he is a bit flashy. I also think that Dogs on the DVD is brilliant. Last year they played Sheep too and I was very impressed. But when they do Shine On with distortion and Les Pauls and duels on Comfortably Numb I just loose interest… Sorry, but Waters has a way of destroying his own songs… – Bjorn]
Of course Roger Waters is a great songwriter. But Pink Floyd calssics are made of lyrics AND music.
Post Syd’s Pink Floyd music is an addition of talents: Waters + Gilmour + Wright + Mason. How would sound a song like Wish you were here without David Gimour? Like a Leonard Cohen Song? He is also a great songwriter… ;)
It´s also interesting to note the credit order on The Wall album sleeve.
It says Produced by David Gilmour, Bob Ezrin, Roger Waters. There´s no way Waters would have allowed that order if the input of Gilmour and Ezrin hadn´t been overwhelming.
I agree with Bjorn, if it hadn´t been for the first two, it would have sounded like The Pros and Cons.
BTW sales figures are based on the amount of disks not albums.
[I think that Ezrin’s contributions on the Wall is often overlooked. He (and Michael Kamen) wrote most of the orchestra arrangements and The Trail is all his… Waters had the idea and chord progression. If you listen to the original demos with only the band (“Under Construction” bootleg) the songs are very basic and some are even quite different than what ended up on the album. I think Waters had very strict ideas on how he wanted the album, the story line etc and then Ezrin came in, wrote the scores and used a lot of time re-arranging the story line and the songs. Obviously the band changed alot during the recordings and worked out some great ideas but I think Ezrin was the man that came in and sort of did the producer’s job seeing everything from a different angle and gave the project a push in the right direction.
You’re right about the sales figures… The Wall has sold about 12mill copies but since it’s a double album it counts as two. It’s rather strange as it doesn’t reflect the retail price with discounts etc but that’s how it works. In essence Wall has sold about a 1/3 of Dark Side. – Bjorn]
David#2 says:
Hey bjorn waters wrote 99% of the wall. It should actually be called”roger waters the wall because it is a historical fact that the wall is when waters had his strongest grip and it just so happens that its there biggest selling album with 23 million sold and also 23million making it tied for the third biggest selling album of all time. ROGER WATERS DID EVERYTHING FOR THE WALL KNOW YOUR HISTORY ITS A RECORDED FACT
ROGER WATERS FOREVER.
[Well, it would be interesting to hear how Wall would have sounded without Gilmour, Bob Ezring and Michael Kamen… What if Gilmour hadn’t written Comfortably Numb and Run Like Hell, which both were intended for his first solo album but Waters thought tehy were too good too waste on a non-Floyd album. In fact it was Bob Ezrin who suggested that Another Brick in the Wall (part 2), Pink Floyd’s arguably biggest hit, should be made into a disco song. Waters’ version was a slow song similar to Another Brick 1… You would have ended up with nothing more than Pros and Cons of Hitchiking and I doubt anyone would call that album genious. Waters wrote the lyrics, most of the initial musical ideas and had the whole concept, but come on… you can’t possibly say that Wall would have sold 23mill copies if he had done it as a solo album? Sorry mate… – Bjorn]
David. says:
Im goingto be a little harsh so get ready. Anyone who thinks gilmour is better then waters is a complete wannabe. Lets look at the facts. Roger waters wrote basically ALL of there great albums. He wrote dsotm, the wall, atom heart mother, anmals, saucerfull of secrets plus many more. Do any of you people know what this means??????? it means that lines like” little by little the night turns around-” no when told you when to run you missed the starting gun”_”so ya thought cha might like to go to the show all these great lyrics were written by ROGER WATERS, not your wannabe gilmour. So what if he great at playing guitar the words are what made floyd what there are today. A guitar can be copied lyrics can’t Do i think gilmour is a great guitar player?? ABSOLUTLY do i think he was a huge force in pink floyd ABSOLUTLY but nowhere near the amount that roger waters was. I’ve seen waters 3 times live 99,06,07 just 2 days ago at the philla show-WOW WHAT MAGICAL SHOWS-SOLD OUT AND AWASOME. I’ve also seen floyd without waters, WATERS WAS BETTER PERIOD. Let me end this writting by saying that ive spoken to about 3 dozen old heads about this topic at the 3 shows ive been to(guys between the ages of 50 to 60+ guys who used to drop acid and see pink floyd back in there glory days and id say 95% off them agreed WATERS WAS PINK FLOYD. Anyone who thinks im wrong just remember 3 things. 1. your not a true floyd fan your a wannabee 2. the majority off fans agree waters was floyd and most importantly HE WROTE EVERYTHING THEY ARE HIS SONGS AND NOTHING YOU SAY CAN EVER CHANGE THAT.
WE LOVE YA ROGER KEEP IT GOING FOR THE REAL FLOYD FANS.
[Well, I’m glad that you had a great time seeing Waters live at judging by your comment here it seems that you’ve haven’t completely landed mentally after the show. Please be careful judging people who disagree with you… Everyone is entiteled to their own oppinion and you can’t really argue with taste… just share views. Anyone who says that either Waters or Gilmour IS Pink Floyd is wrong. Pink Floyd consisted of four members and of course Syd was a leading force in the first couple of years.
You seem to know much about the Pink Floyd history, but let me ask you this… Have you even listened to the albums? Before you can claim to know who did what you need to know your history. Everything from A Saucerful of Secrets to Obscured by Clouds was created by the whole band. Everyone wrote an equal amount of songs, even Wright… Mason has never been a huge contributer to the songs, apart from his drumming style. Atom Heart Mother was written based on a chord sequence Gilmour had been fooling around with. Echoes was a piece they all wrote individual sequences to and pasted everything together. More and Obscured by Clouds are two soundstracks the band wrote together in a week or so. As you should know, both of these as well as Atom Heart and Meddle has great contributions from both Gilmour and Wright.
You’re right about Waters having the big ideas for Dark Side, WYWH, Animals and Wall. He wrote the lyrics and most of the songs. However, you are blinded by what you hear on the albums and it seems that you have no idea what any of the other guys have contributed. Do you think Waters just penned everything rigt out of the blue? Do you think he wrote all the music, all the chord sequences and had ideas for the arrangements? NO! That was mainly something Gilmour and Wright handeled. Their signatures is all over the place and you should recognize that before you judge. There wouldn’t be an Us & Them or Great Gig without Wright’s pieces from the late 60’s. There would have been no Shine On without both Gilmour and Wright’s riffs and chord sequences. There wouldn’t have been a Dogs without Dave’s chords. And there would have been no Comfortably Numb and Run Like Hell without Dave’s inital demos for his solo album. There wouldn’t even be a The Wall without Bob Ezrin, who actually wrote huge parts of the album but only got a few minor creds. These are the songs that the fans remember…. sadly, Waters has taken credit for them all. Creds for a song is politics… nothing more. It is something fought over and written down in tons of binding agreements. Do you think Lennon/MacCartney actually wrote all those songs together… Nope. After 1965, the whole thing became a brand.
So, please know your history. I totally respect your views and couldn’t agree more that Waters is a genious but I also think that he acts like a foolish spolied brat when he, 60 years old, still can’t cred the other members for contributing. Waters wasn’t Pink Floyd. They all were. Why do you think their performance on Live 8 sounded so good? – Bjorn]
Well… I think this post will never die as people as me can find it jejeje….
Many things had been said about who is better musician… but can you set the comparation parameters? How can we compare Gilmour to Waters or Waters to Gilmour? Is there a list of musical questions that we could make, that give us some COMMUN points, and set a qualification? I think there is not….
Is not fair to ask: “Who write the best lyrics ever?” or “who writes the best all times solo?” we should find commun aspects and compare that points.
Now, we can’t find that points in the Floyd Era, because they both have a role in the band and they (for good or not) follow that roles (’till The Wall at least). But now, they have thesame roles in their own bands. Now we can compare, for example “Who is most creative in the visual aspects of the show?” “Who is most interested on create new and better sounds?” “who is most interested in said something that can change the world?” and so… this will not give us an answer, but we are going to find comparations points. As Tim Renwick saids in his interview (not exactly) “Waters like exactly the same every nigth and is much more fun to work with Gilmour…” What is better? it only depends on what do YOU like.
Anyway, I have the chance to see Roger last march in Mexico. The show were amazing, the visuals aspects were great and the vibe of the people do the magic, but, beeing realistic, the show was not a surprise. The same songs of all the tour, in the same order and so…
I don’t have the oportunity to see Pink floyd when they came with the Pulse tour, and Gilmour seems no to like to much latinoamerica, but then, it cames the question… Talking about music… What’s better to you? the good old know and no changes DSOTM with Roger Or an amazing and fresh SOYCD in the David Gilmour’s dvd?(can’t remember where it was..). I really prefer a Roger taking care (or seems to, at least) of what is happenning in our north border (with the USA), but, sincerly, I stay with Gilmour as a musician, because he can write only love songs as good (or as bad, if you like) as many people in the world (of course, not me) but they all sounds fresh and diferents… Roger writes great, no doubt, and altough he had a lot to said, a lot of his songs SOUNDS the same to me…and what is music all about?
So, Who is better? It deppends of the “Battlefield” and “Weapons”…
Bjorn: Great site. There is no doubt that if there is a page named “Waterish” This page will be the best! ;)
[As long as there are two parts in one case, there will always be people who debate who’s better…. Lennon or McCartney, Star Wars or Star Trek, Apple or Windows…. People like to share their oppinions and I guess some even wants to show that they know more about one side than the oponent. Still, as you say, it will never be more than a personal oppinion. Music and all other art is very personal and you can’t say that something is bad… You can say that you don’t like it but you have to respect the ones that do. Thanks for your comment! – Bjorn]
This debate seems to be endless… In my opinion, every band member’s contribution have been important to elaborate the Floyd’s sound (I mean Barett, Gilmour, Mason, Waters and Wright).
Even if you reduce it to Gilmour and Waters (in the post-Syd’s era), their importance is 50/50. Pink Floyd without David Gilmour would be like the Rolling Stones without Keith Richards… Because like David Gilmour in Pink Floyd, Keith Richards alone IS a very large part of his band sound.
Of course,during the 80’s and the 90’s, the ‘Waterless’ Pink Floyd have missed inspiration and creativity. But on his side, Waters did not seem to have so much inspiration at this time: The Final Cut is definitively not the best Floyd’s album, and his work after that is not so amazing. Ok, Amused to Death is the exception, but what else? Only one good album in a 25 years period, it’s quite disappointing!
About the texts, everybody, including David Gilmour – and me – agrees to say that Roger Waters is definitively a great songwriter, far better than Gimour…
But I have to say something important: here in France (yes I’m another Froggy), and in many countries I visited, most fans only speak -and understand- a very basic English… When they do have English notions! So many persons all over the world who like so much Floyd’s classics DON’T UNDERSTAND A WORD in these so beautiful and well written Waters’ songs! It’s sad to say but that is the truth and you have to keep it in mind. For all these persons, Pink Floyd is a sound before anything else. And what characterizes this Floyd’s sound better than Gilmour and Wright playing together?
PS – I would like to thank Bjorn for all his work on this fabulous site. It is a real goldmine, not only for Gilmour or Pink Floyd fans, but for all guitar lovers.
[Good points! … and thanks a lot for your compliments! – Bjorn]
Kristopher Junner says:
I agree with everything Bjorn has said.
As gilmour became less involved the quality of musically decreased, compare ‘The wall’ and ‘The final cut’ to the likes of ‘Meddle’ ‘Dark side’, ‘Wish you were here’ and even ‘The division bell’. Animals is the exception, although gilmour is only involved musically in ‘Dogs’ the others are also great.
The waters dominated albums definately miss gilmours music though, even on the wall, t he best song is comfy numb, where the music was written by gilmour. I love the final cut, waters singing is very emotional and he is very passionate, but my favourite moment on the album is still gilmours solo during ‘the final cut’.
Waters is a fantastic song writer no question, in fact, apart from Bob Dylan I cant think of a better one. He is clearly a very clever man and he knows what he wants and what he likes, but his ego is definately a negative side of him, i read that ‘uncut’ interview he did and its sickening how much credit he takes for the best Floyd work. He even said that when the audience saw him at live 8 he thought they would be thinking “ahh so thats the guy who actually wrote the stuff”. WRONG! he wrote the lyrics, the actual music was composed by all band members (unless we’re talking about the final cut and most of the ‘the wall’ where the quality in music, although still good, is inferior), with major major contributions from Gilmour and Wright.
Its a shame because ive read interviews with Gilmour that have disappointed me too. He doesnt try and take anything away from the rest of the band but Gilmour makes it pretty clear that he isnt willing to forget his bust up with Waters.
I was supposed to see Waters in manchester on 07/05/2007 but i missed it because i needed an emergency operation in hospital. I have no doubts it would have been an entertaining show, but i really dont like his arrangement of some of the songs, and his guitarists just dont do it for me. Snowy White is great, but his style is so different from Dave’s and that other guy is flat out sh*t, sorry guys, but i had to say it. They raped comfy numb with that guitar duet.
Waters is a genius, Gilmour is also a Genius, together with wright and mason (2 more genius’s) they made Pink Floyd, the greatest band of all time. They all needed to be contributing to make works of art like ‘echoes’ that is clear. But as far as solo work goes, i definately think Dave had the better live band. I just wish Waters to drop the ego and acknowledge the massive contributions the others made, especially Dark Side.
On another note, the site looks great Bjorn, the best Gilmour site on the net along with his own, keep up the great work!
[Thanks a lot for the compliments and I do agree with your comment. I think Roger still has some huge demons inside and he seems to have some pretty severe problems with his self-confidence. I can understand that he feared that no-one remembered him but first of all, he chose the anonymous lifestyle in the 70’s and second, he left Pink Floyd. Still, after touring for nearly 8 years, selling out every single show, he must by now know that the fans love him and know exactly what he did in Pink Floyd. He acts like a spoiled little brat… “mine! mine! mine!”. Is he that insecure? I loose some respect every time I read interviews like that. Sorry… – Bjorn]
T.J. Sapp says:
OK. There are a lot of Roger Waters fans, and I’ve already posted my allegience to Gilmour and no arguement here has changed that. But, the thing I don’t understand is all you people who are saying things like “forget Pink Floyd as a whole and forget Gilmour and listen to Doyle Bramhall Jr. (who in my opinion isnt really that great of a guitarist since he doesn’t have any actual emotion he’s just trying to impress people) or listen to Water’s solo albums or all this shit about just ditching Gilmour for Waters…. WHY THE HELL ARE YOU POSTING IT ON A DAVID GILMOUR SITE!!!!!!!! quit whining about how you dislike the bias here and how you are offended that Bjorn would ever say something remotely insulting to your lyric/songwriting god and how crappy of a guitarist you think Gilmour is and start your own sites as a tribute to Roger Water’s lyric writing. Now I’m not directing this to the Roger Water’s fans who obviously have respect for David Gilmour, I’m writing it to the Roger Waters fans who don’t even like the guitar god himself, and some of you people don’t even like Pink Floyd you just want to start some heat about how great Doyle, kilminister and snowy white are, if you don’t like David Gilmour as much as Roger Waters then more power to ya’, just don’t tell everyone on a tribute site to David Gilmour ’cause we are die hard fans of Gilmour and we get pissy when you start that kind of stuff.
~T.J.~
p.s. – sorry to all the Gilmour fans who have to scroll over these harsh words, and thank you again Bjorn for the amazing site, Gilmour truly is a guitar god
It was a truely happy coincidence that those two (Gilmour and Waters) found each other and were able to create the PF-sound, together with Rick Wright and Nick Mason.
It´s sad that the Waters fanatics aren´t able to see the the teamwork behind this great band.
They are great musicians and innovative forces both of them, but Gilmour has the upper hand when it comes to melodies and harmony.
Waters just lack the ability to come up with good tunes. A talent I think Gilmour has plenty of.
Compare A Momentary Lapse of Reason to Pros and Cons and The Division Bell to Radio Kaos and there you have it.
Not even Clapton or Beck (Amused…) were able to turn Waters ideas into something enjoyable.
I think that says a lot about Gilmour´s input.
Still, I fell Gilmour needs the input of Waters aggressive personality to be the icing on the cake.
[Good points, although I have to disagree with you regarding Amused to Death… it’s one of my all time favouites. Anyway, to me, Waters has always been the lyricist and Gilmour the musician. Together they’re dynamite, but I absolutely think that David has managed better on his own than Waters. – Bjorn]
koush says:
just like you say it takes a musician to put roger’s ideas into instrumental pieces… it also takes a musician and a true amazing lyricist to put rogers ideas into words..
no way man… the lyrics that rogers writes are every bit as good and important and ejoyable (if not better) than the intrumental pieces gilmour does.
look at amused to death.. its too good to describe. thats an example of rogers working alone and still pulling off an amazing job.
look at the albums after the split.. not nearly as good with the exception of a few songs in my opinion (like high hopes.. wearing the inside out)
gilmour has said in his interviews that to this date he still struggles with writing lyrics (which is pretty clear to me even if he didnt say it)..
bottom line, both are amazing.. i cant say which one i like better.. and i dont agree with ppl who say one is better than the other.. each of them was amazing at a different thing and together that made a great combination of what is called floyd.
awesome website. i’ll try to keep it general and try not to get repetitive (although the whole spectrum of opinions have more-or-less been covered). We agree that PF is greater than either RW or DG ever have been or will be as solo artists. I also agree that RW is a lyrical genius and DG is an amazing guitarist. As far as my experience is concerned, the first thing that gets my attention of any band or song is the music, more so than the lyrics. And for that, I have to give DG full credit into making me a PF fan. Of course, once I started paying attention, the lyrics sunk deep. Now the albums done together could not have been done without either artist, but frankly, no matter how good of a lyricist RW is, without the music, he does not shine above many poets, playwrights and philosophers of the post-modern era. If he did, we would be reading RW in various forms of literature instead of just listening to him through music. The reason we ever heard him is because of the musical vehicle. And for me, that would not have happened without DG. simple.
On the same note, I should say that it’s subjective what one considers the “best” guitarist. i think under many criteria DG would not be exceptional at all. but it’s his interpretation of music through the guitar, his psychedic sentimentalism that outshines almost any other guitarist.
And last, while I consider Syd to be a genius in his own right, the evolution of music within the band since he “left” has been quite remarkable. So much so that I believe PF would not be the same band with the same music had he been around. And while i am a die-hard fan of the band during Syd’s time, there is no saying how much recognition PF would have received over time. Especially because i find Syd’s tastes to be the least mainstream of the 3 (forgive me for leaving out the other band members, trying to keep this short). Therefore i truly feel that when people refer to the essence of PF – *largely* defined by the ’65-’85 era (or many prefer to define it as the Dark Side of the Moon and The Wall era) of Waters and Gilmour – then they should realize that while Syd was responsible for beginning the evolution of the PF sound, he really was much less central to their sound in that time. For instance, I can’t see myself giving Syd any significant credit for DSOTM and The Wall, two of my fav PF albums. I just wanted to put that into perspective (esp for me since i am a big Syd fan).
Coming back to the present, I think currently both RW and DG in their solo albums have diverged enough that they can’t even be compared. And in this regard, personal bias (as seen on this board) often only reflects personal preference of current musical and lyrical styles that shouldn’t overshadow the genius of PF as a result of the combinatorial duo. (Gosh, i hope i made sense…).
Lastly, despite who might sound better and who embodies more of the “PF sound” now, there really isn’t any solace to the disintegration of the band as our generation has seen. :(
[Great post! I totally agree. I basically wrote this article (it’s almost a year now) to start a debate… it’s always great to hear other people’s oppinion and this topic sure stir up some deep feelings for the most of us. It’s really not important at all, – who is better, Gilmour or Waters. It’s like arguing why someone prefers apples over oranges. Music, or art, is a very personal thing. Nevertheless, one can always have a nice debate why one prefer one over the other.
One fascinating side of this topic is how much Syd Barrett has to do with Pink Floyd after he left. He was a founding member and the creative force in the first period, but when he left (or was told to leave), Pink Floyd miraculusly managed to create their own sound and carried on without much sign of a deep loss. One can argue if this is true or not, but the fact is that the whole Barrett legend thing didn’t start until years after he had left. In 1968-69 most of the fans didn’t even know that Gilmour was the new guy or if there had even been a Syd Barrett. This was mostly due to the fact that Floyd did a massive promo tour with Saucerful in spring ’68 and Gilmour was a part of it all.
Anyway, it would be interesting to hear how Pink Floyd would have sounded if they had formed the band without Syd, starting with Saucerful. Would Wish You Were Here and the Wall have sounded the same? We’ll never know and Pink Floyd would probably never have excisted. But I do think that Syd’s memory has haunted Pink Floyd ever since he quit. His talent was a huge inspiration, but I also think that especially Waters felt guilty and sorry for how things turned out, which his lyrics often reflect. I also think that Pink Floyd them selves got caught in the whole Syd legend thing, and perhaps unconciously it affected their music. – Bjorn]
you’re totally right!
I have to say that your website is absolutly awsome! Also I totally agree with the Gilmour vs. Waters issue… but I think Waters had a little more say in things then “I like that”. I think David joining the Floyd was one of their best decisions, I believe David helped them get past Syd and to keep moving forward and make and new and unique sound… who knows what would have happend if he did hadnt become part of the Floyd? David’s muscian skills are AMAZING and even though it probablly wouldn’t pass as being good now days, I think his voice is also wonderful. Thanks for making such a wonderful site!
(P.S.: Sorry if I spelled half the stuff I wrote wrong.)
[Hi Winnie! Thanks for your compliments! – Bjorn]
Wow… I don’t know how I managed to read every single comment, if anything just to get an idea, or confirm the idea that this senseless argument of “who is better” is so lame and absurd.
Bjorn, people tend to miss your comments in that “National Enquire” tendency of looking for faults in others rather than concentrating in what they are good at… in Floyd, we have very distinct eras, all of them extremely good, if you dont forget the context in which they were created… for God’s sake, can you truly compare Bike with Money and Watching TV or HighHopes?… Come on… Pink Floyd was and will be way more than what any of their members could claim. It is not difficult to listen to any of the solo albums or of the band and not being able to find something that connects it all.
I can easily listen to About Face (Let get m…), Amused to Death (Perfect Sense) or Broken China (Breakthorugh) and I can feel the connection to Wish You Were Here.
Pink Floys is Syd Barret, Roger Waters, Rick Wright and Nick Mason… no more no less… those guys on their own are still the same, just the times changes, they can choose to evolve or not, or go back and forth if they wish… they have the talent and the experience… which is better? Who is to say?… we need to be there or at the same stage to pass a judgment, we can only have opinions, everybody is entitled to them… but, that doesn’t make it true…
PF songs get under your skin either because of the words or the melody or the combination of both… you pick depending on the mood your are in, and that’s what’s great about it.
That’s the mark of good artists…
As a performing musician for the last 28 years, I can tell you that the goal of performing, recording, write songs, singing, ir to reach out (or in) and make your audience part of you or give them a piece of you.. when that happens is magic, and man theyknow how to do that… they never needed a proven formula, they never followed trends or the commercial easy way like many… and they are still there, if anything to have a bunch of people arguing about these things.
It shows we care… it shows that we love what they do, or done.. that’s it..
Better guitarrist? Better lyricist? Sure… and then some… look around, any of them can kick ass to 99% of the crap that’s being around since they have been around. That’s what is important.. they are not Gods, they are not perfect, they never pretend to, but they are great artist… and art is more than your set of skills or talents… is what you do with it.
Bjorn… love the site… I guess I visit it more often that I do the Fleeting Glimpse or Brain Damage… cool stuff… I have downloaded every single file you have there.. stolen as much info as I can (including the GT-3 settings for God’s sake)
Shit, if we never have PF again, I have seen live all versions and solo acts, except the Barret era, have every recording or books or video available and then some…but, then I can come here and dream a little bit.
[Thanks for your comment Daniel! I’m proud to know that you enjoy my site :-) I also agree with that it’s all a matter of taste. I can’t argue with someone who loves Roger more than Gilmour, but we can express our views. A group is depending on all members, no matter how big or small their contribution is… Still, it’s always fun to start a debate and let people express different oppinions. As you say, this is all because we love the band so much. – Bjorn]
I think David is so f*ckin’ good…I mean, His sound is incredible,man,he is a musician just like Roger but they´re completely different. david knows how to touch our hearts with his solos.He´s amazing. You can’t say david isn´t a great songwriter. I love On an Island and and all his albums. Sorry about my english.
But I still like Gilmour sound and I,m still trying to figure out how he got all these beautiful and inspired guitar sounds
Go figure this one out
I like them both
And by the way Waters should drop all these old Floyd songs from his shows and only play Pros ans Cons,Radio Wave and Amused to Death integrally That would be AMAZING
Gilmour has nothing to say (and even him knows it)
There are thousands of good guitarists,keyboardist,producers,musiciens (including Gilmour)but how many good songwriters ? Waters is the quintessence of songwriting (and I won’t talk about his voice here,what a voice) I love the Pink Floyd Era and i like Gilmour sound and playing (By the way my favorites Floyd album are Animal and Final cut)But I’d rather listen to Pros and Cons,Radio Wave and Amused to death any time of the day
Some people prefer the messenger to the message
That’s not my case Thanks
Don’t forget…60% of the recorded basses in records of Floyd are great…, are those recorded ones for Gilmour :)
[David on a question whether he or Waters played bass on Hey You – “Roger playing fretless? Are you mad??!!”. – Bjorn]
efrenbaron says:
…. I just saw Roger Waters Performing the dark side of the moon…. I must say that going to that show was like going to a tribute show… i didnt feel a thing. He doesnt have the Floyd vibe. And you wont let me lie about this… All of the songs that have become singles… who is singing????? .. the man himself. Gilmour. Personally the only album that i find a bit boring and anti-floyd (because of the song estructure and the short songs ) is the wall. And curiously the classic songs of that album are the ones that gilmour co-wrote with Waters..
Just think about this for a second for God’s sake.
Roger plays his bass with freacking shity wireless system and he don’t even sings money. I guess he is too old.. He is still playing dark syde of the moon as his main act. The songs he played of his solo album were the ones the people chose to go to the bathroom… Plus. He is so Rockstar and selfish.
Gilmour . my man. He plays his spends tons of money tryng to achieve a more organic sound. He plays his guitar with a coaxial cable connected to his amp to sound better each time.. He just stays there in one spot to do his thing and to sing better than you can ever sing in your whole life. He has done almost 5 albums ( including a momentary lapse and division bell ) without roger and all of them kick ass. FINALLY. HE HAS 60 YEARS AND he sings incredible….
Ok I know roger was a good man at the beginning and that he shared some good ideas. But as gilmour said. HE TURNED FLOYD into a vehicle for spreading his lyrics. He forgot about the concept of the band itself. When music Was way more important than lyrics. And tell me folks.. Do u listen to a floyd song and say “oh i like the way the bass sounds.. i dont think so.”
so go a ahead “CReative Genious of Pink Floyd”…. gilmour and the guys are just laughing about you and your shity way of singing.
You´re probably right, it´s all on the surface. I´ve just read the interview with Roger in the Uncut magazin. He still can´t help himself but to spit on his bandmates, although he says that he regretts doing so in the past.
Pathetic and so unnecssary from such a great talent.
[Seems like he has some severe self-confident problems. – Bjorn]
Hi James, you have learnt your ” Gospel according to Roger Waters” by heart I see.
But the fact is that Water´s solo works,especially The pros and cons and Radio KAOS are completely devoid of melody, harmony and sensuality. Amused…is better but not much. Whereas Gilmour´s soloworks lack edge and purpose but everything else that make up good music is there.
They were a very good TEAM. Gilmour has always stressed that fact and now in his older and wiser age Waters seems to begin to acknowledge it as well. The ” Gospel” is tentatively changing it´s harsch dogma. ;=)
[What surprises me is that Roger, who claims he has moved on and become a stronger person, still feels sorry for stuff like giving Mason the creds for Speak to Me and for not singing Have a Cigar. Instead of touring with the purpose of keeping the Floyd history alive and celebrating what one of the greatest bands of all times achieved, he does it with the intention of showing everybody that it was all his work. Waters didn’t move on… he never will. – Bjorn]
ummm, ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND TO SAY THAT IT WAS ALL DAVID WHEN IT COMES TO MUSIC?!!!!!! EXCUSE ME BUT I DO BELEIVE THAT ANIMALS, THE WALL, AND DARKSIDE WERE ALL WRITTEN BY ROGER LYRICALLY, AND MUSICALLY. I ALSO DON’T THINK ROGER WOULD EVEN CONSIDER RELEASING ANOTHER ALBUM UNLESS HE LIKED EVERYTHING ABOUT. IF YOU THINK KNOW FLOYD, THEN YOU WOULD KNOW THAT ROGER TOOK COMPLETE MUSICAL CONTROL OVER EVERYTHING THAT FLOYD DID. THE ONLY THING DAVID WAS ALLOWED TO DO WAS WRITE SOLOS. ROGER MADE EVERYONE IN THE BAND DO THE MUSIC HIS WAY, OR NO WAY. ROGER MUST HAVE HAD MUSICAL TALENT TO PRODUCE THE ALBUMS EVERYBODY KNOWS TODAY. DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU EMBARRASS YOURSELF.
[Well first of all, I haven’t said that Pink Floyd IS David Gilmour. He is only 1/4. That’s why Pink Floyd’s reunion at Live 8 sounded like Floyd… all fours members were up on the stage…. even a rusty Mason. Second of all, I’m entiteled to my own oppinion just as you are. You should respect that. To me, David is a far greater musician that Roger. As I’ve written in the piece and in noumerous answers, I respect Roger for what he has done…. without him we wouldn’t have had any of the Floyd albums from Saucerful to Final Cut. He had the ideas and the pen. Christ, Amused to Death is on my top 10 list! But if you accuse me of not doing my homework, regarding who did what, then you should really consider your own knowledge about Pink Floyd. Haven’t you seen the creds on each song? Haven’t you heard a single demo or bootleg from the 70’s? Everything shows that Roger had most of the ideas and lyrics, but THE BAND arranged the songs TOGETHER. Listen to how Dark Side evolved throughout 1972, a year before it got released on an album. Listen to how Shine On evolved from being a another endless 12-bar blues to a soulful duett between David’s guitar and Wright’s synths. Both Dogs and Sheep was played throughout 1974-75, two years before they got released on Animals. The songs changed dramatically. Listen to the demoes from The Wall. The songs are very crude and lack the touch of both Wright and Gilmour, and not to forget Bob Ezrin’s arrangements. Before you accuse anyone, YOU should do your homework. – Bjorn]
When Pink Floyd was Pink Floyd, David Gilmour was my best guitarist. He created the sound and theme of all good old Pink floyd songs. I admire him and Roger as a Pink Floyd fan. But when I heard Doyle Braham II in In the Flesh concerts, I was first surprised how talented this left handed guy is and how come Roger accepted such gum-chewer in his very disciplined equippe. I realized that Doyle must be a very special guy. He is able to immitate all the sound and virtue of David, that’s alone is something, but actually he also has his own style. I listened to him in his own works and also together with Eric Clapton. He is marvelous. I think it’s time that a younger talent to replace David’s top place. We will never forget David, but Doyle rocks now…
[Ah… riiiight. But, I’ll agree on one thing, – Doyle is a hell of a guitarplayer and technically far better than Gilmour. Doyle learned from one of the best, – Steve Ray Vaughan. He plays some really impressive stuff on the Waters DVD, BUT in my oppinion he doesn’t come close to David’s tone and feeling. – Bjorn]
WOW that post of jan remind me someone..mm.. who? of course!: Roger Waters!!. Isn’t it great how one can hate in others what it is very inside of us?
I think we have a great theme here to make a progressive rock’s song!!
I’m not going to create a debate here. For me the true pink floyd was: Waters, Mason, Wright, Gilmour and of course Syd. I’d rather think in Pink Floyd as a team and his rupture and painfully separation as a reminder of what could happen to people if the EGO in BOTH parts of a disagreenment is incapable of settle down.
And of course, my deep admiration for David Gilmour is not enough to make me change my mind about many of the issues in this confrontation: Roger was right in many of them, altough I can understand perfectly the course of action that Gilmour chose and I don’t blame him. He still is the best rock’s guitarist!!
Also I am guitarist and fan of Pink Floyd, specifically of the Gilmour era.
My vision of the separation is as musician.
It tries to be part of a band (4 people) with world-wide recognition and to see that one of members in determined point wants for itself all the artistic direction. It’s simple, you will not be felt comfortable with this situation.
I agree to Waters in Dark Side DVD when it says that “it does not have pureness in the motivation for the rockâ€â€¦ What I do not agree is that if you if it says part of a band always knows of its responsibility as band, or recognizes the moment to leave for an single artist and admits this necessity.
Asperger says:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspergers_syndrome
I got Aspergers Syndrome. You all probably heard of it…
People with Asperger have difficulties with social behaviour (can behave egoistic and arrogant against other people) and are not so intelligent (some people with asperger need help with clothes on and such stuff, pretty like small childs). But may have a special interest that they are very good at (in my case, making music, playing the guitar and listen to Pink Floyd)
But wait… this is supposed to be about Roger Waters vs. David Gilmour!
OK. I like Pink Floyd mainly for their “un-normal” music and, of course, for Roger Waters/Syd Barretts lyrics and David GilmoursSyd Barretts guitar playing.
I have always recognised some of me in both Roger Waters and Syd Barrett (most RW). I’ve read that Syd Barrett may had suffered from just Asperger Syndrome.
If Roger Waters was more musical than David Gilmour or Syd Barrett then it would NOT sound Pink Floyd. If Richard Wright never listened to jazz-trumpeter Miles Davis “Kind of Blue” (ranked as the best jazz-album ever) it would NOT sound Pink Floyd. If Nick Mason never ever took driver license then it would NOT sound Pink Floyd :)
If Roger Waters teacher never beat him up in school it would NOT…
If the nazi-pilot never dropped the bomb over Anzio in 1944…
I could go on for ever.
Roger vs. David… they’re both great in their ways.
!!!AND THIS IS IMPORTANT!!!
It was Rogers idea to kick out Syd both for Syd’s good and the bands good. It was Roger who first, even if he was so unsure of himself, feeled that it was he who had to take control over the band after Syd. And thank god he did.
He contributed with weird sounds on Interstellar Overdrive that is very musical in a way. (well Nick Rick and Syd did som great improvising on IO to but almost everyone seems to think that Roger Waters is NOT musical. He was the bass player and song writer in the best band in the world for god sake.
The REALLY BAD THING about him (Roger…) is of course that he never (as far as I know) gives away money lake the ultra-kind David Gilmour. That he took a lot of credit for songs and that he hated Nick Mason’s drumming in the late 70’s. Nick Mason is my 3rd favourite drummer of ALL TIME! And Rick Wright is the best keyboardist I’ve ever heard with Ray Manzarek of The Doors and Jon Lord of Deep Purple as 2nd and 3rd.
And Careful With That Axe, Eugene is the best song Roger Waters ever written. Time is the best LYRICS he ever written but CWTAE is the best SONG… it’s like INSTRUMENTAL WALL. With the scream representating… something. Well this isn’s http://www.songmeanings.net …
WOW THAT WAS SOME LONG COMMENT.
Last words before I go to bed: Stop saying so bad things about ROGER WATERS. I know he does not look good, that he has a large nose, that he never was as good on bass as David Gilmour… he’s just a weird old man with some painful memories of the past that made him write the best lyrics ever written by man.
There are people that is much more meaner than him. (Not me, though, he he).
Ben Culture says:
In utter ignorance, Asperger said: “The REALLY BAD THING about him (Roger…) is of course that he never (as far as I know) gives away money lake the ultra-kind David Gilmour”
If you’re at all interested in FACTS . . . Since 1975, Roger Waters has donated 25% (one fourth) of all his personal income to a charitable foundation for the poor, homeless, and malnourished. He never even sees the money (nor does the taxman); it goes straight into the foundation. (Waters does not publicize this. It was relatively unknown, until writer Dave Thompson set out to write a biography strictly about Roger Waters, not the whole band.)
Even David Gilmour cannot say he has given away 1/4th of his money for over 30 years.
I see a lot of ignorance on this page. People (like Asperger) just make statements that “feel” right, in their “gut”. I do not respect this way of belief — “bellyfeel”, George Orwell termed it. This is the Internet, the greatest wealth of information in all of human history. It has never been easier to educate yourself for free. This beats the Library of Alexandria. There is no excuse for making things up anymore.
Soft-rock musician David Gilmour bores me. I prefer the sharp-edged artistry of Roger Waters. Solo. Having seen Waters 4X, I never miss Gilmour. The only significant mistake Roger Waters ever made in his solo career would be Paul Carrack. I watched as many bootlegs of The Wall Live as I could, before they were taken down, and I can say in absolute seriousness, Dave Kilminster outclassed Gilmour playing Gilmour’s own solos. Probably just because he is younger, more ambitious, and simply cared more about getting it right. How can Gilmour put sincere passion into “Comfortably Numb” every single time he plays a concert? It’s not possible. I’m a musician/songwriter/guitarist myself. I would grow bored with the same song, after 36 years, and that’s what it sounds like. I liked the Live8 performance for the way all four of them jelled.
Gilmour’s guitar solos are not the star of Pink Floyd anymore. Roger Waters is playing “Dogs” live again, only this time with Kilminster instead of Doyle Bramhall II. And Kilminster kills it.
I attended “Pink Floyd” concerts in 1988 & 1994. I left with a feeling of disgust and bitterness. The “camp” approach to “Run Like Hell” bothered me most — talk about a “cover band”! It sounded like “talent night” at a summer camp for at-risk children!
I am also thoroughly bored by any version of “Comfortably Numb”, and can’t respect Gilmour until he retires it from his onstage repetoire. Imagine if Billy Joel played “Just the Way You Are” at every damn concert he ever performed, for his enitre career . . . That’s respectable? No. Do something fresh and new, Mr. Gilmour! Break out of the E and B blues scales. Try playing alone with “What God Wants Part III”, if you can handle the four key changes.
“Shine On You Crazy Diamond” is divided into 9 parts, with different credits for each part. For example, Rick Wright wrote Part 9 alone. Waters is credited on 8 of the 9 parts — he wrote instrumentals as well as lyrics. And he ALONE is credited for part 5 — the melody/vocal section, that makes it a “song” instead of a “jam”. Roger Waters is a songwriter, not a mere lyricist. The best songwriter Pink Floyd ever had. One of the best rock songwriters alive today. (Gilmour is not even in the top 20.)
I guess this is where Bjorn sticks in the last word? Go right ahead . . . I suppose you own the site or something, so you might as well control the dialogue. Roger’s band is superior to Gilmour’s. Now have your last word . . . .
Terrence Reardon says:
Ben, Roger got stifled with age creatively and lyrically. Roger cannot write good lyrics anymore. I heard snippets of this new album and it sounds like bad Radiohead (and I can’t stand those clowns). I waited 25 years for a new album and instead I get a damn dirge, I’m skipping Roger’s tour because of his LIP SYNCHING and also finances and schedule conflicts! If he can’t sing live then (I agree with Bjorn) he should RETIRE! He lied about getting singing lessons, he records the vocals in the studio and plays over the PA while he mimes. Even Neil Peart of Rush has written better lyrics than Roger in the last 35 years. If you think “Leaving Beirut” and much of Amused to Death is gold, you are so far up Roger’s keester that you can’t spot the flaws of Roger on his own. I think songs that Neil Peart wrote the lyrics for like “Limelight” and “Superconductor” (both swipes at the illusion of the music industry and fame), “Losing It” (about one who loses their talents to age and Roger is now living the lyrics to this song “many years ago how the words would flow with passion and precision but now his mind is dark and dull by sickness and indecision” and “sadder still to watch it die than never to have known it”), “Red Sector A” (a song about the Holocaust survivors), “Afterimage”, the songs on Power Windows, “The Pass” (a song about the pains of committing suicide done to uplifting music), Counterparts and many of Rush’s albums have held up because they don’t name bomb events and can relate to anyone or anything. Listening to The Final Cut is pure 1982/83 and I only play when I’m dealing with depression despite the fact it was the first Pink Floyd album I ever owned as a 7 year old in 1983 thanks to “Your Possible Pasts” and “Not Now John” getting boatloads of airplay on US rock radio). Some songs on Amused to Death drag on and KAOS has songs I disdain and Pros and Cons was saved by Eric Clapton whom Roger could not keep a choke collar on because Eric would play different solos on a nightly basis).
You troll David Gilmour forums you dirtball with your manlove for Roger Waters. You call David SOFT ROCK?!?! WTF?!?! Until We Sleep, Murder and All Lovers Are Deranged fall more into the hard rock category. His first album was hard rock and blues rock. On an Island was mellow yes but got me through the period where my mom passed. Rattle That Lock is my second favorite Gilmour solo album after his first.
To me Pink Floyd was the music of David Gilmour and Rick Wright married with Roger’s lyrical concepts which was from Atom Heart to Wish You Were Here. Animals was where the band feeling was lost and I listen to live versions from 1977 more than the album.
I may get shot for this but my Top 5 lyricists
1) Neil Peart
2) Pete Townshend
3) Bob Dylan
4) Ronnie James Dio
5) Roger Waters
YES, I have Dio and Peart ahead of Roger.
I saw Pink Floyd in 1994 and still the best show I ever attended and I’ve yet to try drugs like pot and so forth. That cold May night in 1994, David Gilmour and Rick Wright and Nick Mason played superbly. What I love about David is he SINGS LIVE and plays different solos every night. If he screws up a lyric or botches a solo, IT’S ROCK AND ROLL. Seen Roger FIVE TIMES (1999, 2000, 2007, 2010 and 2012) and while the In the Flesh tours were amazing, Roger Waters is now watching a Broadway play. Doyle Brahmall was Roger’s best guitarist, he played what he wanted every show (not every solo was a carbon copy of David’s). Plus reminded me of Stevie Ray Vaughan which was also awesome! The VI part to Shine On had Jon Carin play lap steel, Doyle playing either a clean tone or his guitar through a Leslie and Snowy White playing a brilliant solo (which too differed every show).
“Though Gilmour may be the better performer and guitarist, Roger Waters is ten times better then anyone alive at writing songs. He is hands down the greatest lyracist and song writer in the world. He’s greater then Lennon, Plant, and dylan put together.” -Floydfan1
Hmm….greater lyricist than lennon, plant, and dylan? Thats pretty narrow minded. Many songwriters blow Roger Waters out of the water. His words fit perfectly for Gilmours style of guitar and music. Udoubtable he is legendary, but what is he with sub par musican? He is just another songwriter.
If you’re a guitarist or a musician you appreciate Gilmour because he created a whole new style or progressive rock blues. Today he is just another songwriter, but he has always been. But he always has the catchy blues psychdelic feel. It just seems Waters and Gilmour were dependent on each other for the musical abilities to really shine.
Bob Dylan on the other hand? He wasn’t depending on anyone else to help him do anything. That is why i say there is no contest. His music was his no one elses.
[And Dylan is still capable of renewing himself… as he has done many times. His latest albums are considered as some of his best. Water’s latest random compositions (downloads and filmscores) are not even a bleak reminder of how great he once was. Also, don’t forget that Gilmour has managed to take the music press by storm with his 2001/2002 shows… hailed as a new genre in rock. – Bjorn]
serge says:
you say that rogers band sounds like a cover band.
do you have ears?
[Yes I have ears and my personal oppinion, after seeing Waters live 2 times, is that the band sounds like an uninspired Floyd cover…. on some songs. Roger should have toured with Amused to Death and played a couple of Floyd tunes as encores… Apart from him (of course) and Jon Carin, the rest of the band has no Floyd feeling what so ever. That’s my oppinion. That being said, I think Waters’ recent versions of Dogs and Sheep are awesome and he did a decent job with Dark Side when I saw him last year. – Bjorn]
I just arrived from the concert of Roger Waters.. no words.. no words.. amazing… truly..truly amazing…I’m with Waters in this issue… at least until Gilmour decides to come to LatinAmerica and I can compare both on stage.. but man, what I just saw, is the best concert I’ve ever seen.. and I’ve been in a lot of concerts..
[Glad you had a good time! – Bjorn]
Just noticed this entry and have to say I also tend to lean towards the Gilmour side of things than the Waters side of things. I mean all you people out there reading this, don’t think that we all hate Roger or something, I just tend to like Gilmour. As some people have observed, alot of Roger’s basslines and whatnot were written by Gilmour. However I do feel that they should be put together, they balance eachother out, and make great music. I also believe that Roger’s band sounding like a “cover band” (which they really are) and David’s not sounding like a cover band comes from the way Roger and David handle the shows and the way they do things. Tim Renwick, who has toured with both men, has said before that Roger is very controlling, trying to have complete control over everything, whereas David seems to just let the members do “their own thing” which results in a more natural feel. Anyway if any of you can understand what I just typed, I prefer David, but they both made eachother who they are.
I have to find another way to get bootlegs I can’t find any.
Have a good day,
have you ever seen roger in the flesh?
not all the songs but all the pink floyd songs are great.
i’f seen the dvd of 2000.
and not only the music but the whole performance in great.
i think if anyone could bring the sound of pink back it’s roger with the other band members of roger in the flesh.
and doyl bramhall 2 is also on of the best guitarist of the world.
i admire that you admire pink floyd so much.
were on the same line theire, but roger gets my vote
[I’ve seen the DVD and I’ve seen Roger live in 2002 and last year. The show was OK and it was great fun to hear Dogs and Sheep performed live. Doyle is a very good guitarist… but Gilmour gets my vote. Cheers! – Bjorn]
I guess I’m a bit late in the running here. But something caught my eye that I thought was rather interesting, when Floydfan1 said; “so I guess if you like Gilmour, then you listen to the musical aspect of the songs”. Isn’t the point of listening to music to listen to the musical aspects of the songs, I mean sure Waters writes some great lyrics and the credits say that he writes some great music, but he could just as easily write some poetry and seem like a bit less of a pompous jerk than he does when he takes almost all credit of all Pink Floyd’s music away from the rest of the band who are the ones that deserve it. If you look at the credit for Comfortably Numb you see that it says that the music was written by both Waters and Gilmour even though we all know that it was written more than a year before “The Wall” came out. Now if you look at a song like Pigs, or Another Brick in the Wall, or Money, or any song that there is a guitar part on that Waters didn’t play himself. Can you say that Waters wrote every single guitar part and every keyboard part and every drum part that has ever graced a Pink Floyd song. Cause I find that incredibly difficult to believe and if Roger Waters can get a credit for something as simple as deciding how the opening of Comfortably numb should be then the rest of Floyd should get a credit for every contribution they have ever made to the bands music. And the fact that he takes credit for being Pink Floyd’s creative genius should be a crime. Every member of the band was a creative genius and you don’t see any member but Waters taking credit for it. David Gilmour takes credit only for being the Voice and Guitar of Floyd. And we all know that he was soooo much more than that. He was the soul, the dream inspiring melodicism, possibly the greatest guitarist that has ever graced this planet, and he was the lead singer. Sure you could say that without Roger Waters, David Gilmour wouldn’t have gotten anywhere, but it goes the other way too and without syd (rip) none of them would have gotten anywhere. And albums like Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were here, didn’t sell because of the lyrics, 90% of people that listen to music don’t give a crap about lyrics, Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here and every pink floyd song thats ever existed sold (or didnt sell) because of the music, and you notice that the lowest selling Pink Floyd album since Meddle was the one that Waters had the MOST control over because the music was nothing more than a way for the lyrics to get to people and they werent focused on. The worst songs that pink floyd did were the ones that Waters felt should just be used as lyrical conveyors such as the trial. And just because roger waters could write a lyric doesnt mean that he was a musician and anyone who listens to pink floyd knows that he was not a musician. The musicians were Gilmour, Wright, Barret, and Mason, Roger Waters just pissed them off, wrote words for them, and then at the end he took all the credit. (yeah I guess i have a bit of a Gilmour slanted bias..
[I couldn’t agree more… Of course Roger had the big conceptual ideas behind Dark Side, WYWH, Animals and Wall. He also wrote most of the initial musical ideas on those albums. BUT it was mainly David and Rick who turned the crude ideas into the gems we know today. I think Roger had a very “me me me” way of crediting songs when the truth is (maybe apart from the majoryty of Wall) that the songs should be credited Lyrics, -Waters and Music, -Pink Floyd…. Not even Great Gig should be only credited Rick, as the piece didn’t sound anything like the final piece when he wrote it. Who gets the creds is all very political and due to who gets the most money according to a contract. It’s like Lennon/McCartney… it became a trademark, not an actual cred. They wrote very few songs together. Anyway, it really pisses me off me Roger goes around promoting himself as the “creative genious”. If he really is that, he shouldn’t need to shout it out. It’s just childish… like a little 5 year old who desperately need the cred from his parents. Rogers is no doubt a creative genious, but he acts like a fool without dignity. After Amused to Death he should have quit making music and begun writing poetry instead. – Bjorn]
Peter Kline says:
I read your opening essay and basically agree with your views.
However I saw Roger Waters last night in Hong Kong and it was a stunning show – and I saw Pink Floyd many times in the old days. Of course I would have loved to have seen Gilmour up there too – but there was no way you could call the show inferior. Dark Side Of The Moon is a modern master piece and in 100 years people will be up there playing the Gimour guitar peices and singing the Waters lyrics in just the same way orchestras today play Mozart. And, as a matter of fact there is no dark side of the…..
[All in all, I think Roger did a faithful version of Dark Side. The effects and feeling was definitely there and I must say, Great Gig was perhaps the best since Claire sang on the album! But somehow, the band sounds like a cover band with Roger as speacial guest. The musicians seem to have no idea how the album really sounded like (apart from Jon Carin) and I do feel that Gilmour has managed to put together a better sounding band that is more capable of recreating the essence of Floyd. – Bjorn]
I agree that it’s rather silly to compare them. It’s about music, and not a competition about who is the best writer or musician. It’s all about what you like or not, and that’s a matter of taste.
As good as the classic (70s) material was, I think Roger had completely lost it with Final Cut, and I find most of his solo work even worse than that album, even if I can appreciate the occasional stuff. So the question is did Waters stop being a genius…or was it a case of Gilmour not getting enough credits for the classic material?….
Gilmour’s Floyd in the 80s and 90s might be tame in comparison with the classic era but it’s still better than Roger solo IMO.
I also think we should put things in perspective a bit…has ANY other band who made classic albums in the 70s kept up with their old standards and continued to make classics throughout the 80s and 90s?
I can’t think of any. the 80s was a very different era in music, and things never became the same again…
[I agree… It’s a matter of taste. That’s basically why I wrote the post. – Bjorn]
doyle bramhall II is just a chewing gum chewer that is nowhere near as talented as gilmour in any way and comparing them is insulting, it’s like comparing picasso with a copyist…
Now another comment: i don’t see why you only play the waters era pink Floyd, since you seem to prefer Gilmour, i think that songs like learning to fly, on the turning away, sorrow or the whole division bell album are worth and should be played as Pink Floyd so i find foolish not to do it. Now back to the point of the debate Gilmour vs Waters,
I don’t even understand what you are talking about there, on what basis do you want to compare them?
It’s foolish, it’s like comparing Gabriel to Collins, or Tony levin to roger waters or steve Howe to Gilmour.
One thing is sure Gilmour plays a lot better (even the base guitar) than Roger Waters and sings better but gilmour can’t make some voices that roger can and that without that sound some songs are forever lost (take comfortably numb, vera lynn, fletcher memorial home, nobody home) For me the only thing that we can see is the void left by Waters in Pink Floyd, and the void in Waters sound without pink floyd and not only gilmour but wright and mason too. So i insist, it’s foolish to even try to compare them, they are both so strong music personalities but so different, i can live with their separation but it’s so sad what a waste.
[Fair point and I do agree that it’s foolish to compare them because they are both vital parts of the Pink Floyd sound. Still, I was trying to compare Gilmour and Waters today. I wrote the post after seeing Waters on his recent tour last summer and I was shocked to see him fooling around on the stage and even miming to his own lyrics. That’s really a huge difference to what I witnessed when seeing David in Albert Hall in May. The band was on fire and seemed to enjoy themselves together… that was not the case with Waters where he really struggled to show himself as a solo performer. I’m talking about David’s sence of putting together a band consisting of people who get his ideas, the Floyd sound and do shine on their own. Waters will always bee the genious when it comes to the great ideas, both in terms of the music and stage show, but IMO he doesn’t even come close to Gilmour when it comes to the musical aspect. Sorry… About Doyle Bramhall… IMO he is the best guitarist Roger has worked with as a solo artist. He has a great tone, plays the solos very well and has a unique style of his own, heavily influenced by his mentor Steve Ray Vaughan. Kilminister is shame… – Bjorn]
…..forget Gilmore
Money & Comfortably Numb…
Roger Waters Live in the Flesh DVD
5.1 surround sound on my polk audio system…
the best I’ve ever heard, vocals & guitar & stage presence……..
doyle bramhall II rawks,
snowy white rawks,
andy fairweather low rawks-
you could even forget Roger…….
Karen ;o)
[Riiiiight…? – Bjorn]
kieran mullarkey says:
If you actually read any of these comments please read this one. PLEASE. haha. Alrite, I love pink floyd and have heard all of their albums, even the ones from the Syd Barett days and the newer ones where Gilmour led the band. I have seen Roger Waters play, and annually see a famous Pink Floyd cover band called The Machine. Excuse me cause I’m a little tired but my point is that I know Pink Floyd really well. I just feel that Gilmour is and always was a better guitarist than Waters, but Waters is and always will be a better musician. Waters wrote The Wall, Animals, and The Final Cut. He did however let the band help build off of his work once it was written. He also wrote a majority of Dark Side and Wish You Were Here. You do bring up a good arguement on how David Gilmour has helped mold Roger Waters into a better musician, but there were many times when Waters lefts gaps in some of his songs intentionally for Gilmour to build off of but, Waters always laid down the foundation. I truly hope you read this post because I have an offer for you Bjorn Riis. I somehow got a hold of a copy of the rough draft version of The Wall. It is the version of The Wall which Roger Waters wrote entirely by himself which he gave to producers and the rest of Pink Floyd. This is the foundation of The Wall. Let me remind you that this is the first piece of The Wall and is entirely by Waters and no one else. This is the version before Gilmour or producers got their hands on it. I am willing to send you a copy of it to convince you of how much more superior Water’s musicianship is than Gilmours. If you hear it you might be surprised how little Gilmour, producers, or the rest of the band interferred with it.
The origional version of comfortably numb actually has better lyrics! Waters does the guitar, bass, drums, and vocals for it. I will admit that the origional guitar solo is not as good as Gilmour’s famous one. Still the song defines the solo, the solo does not define the song. It is a piece of brilliance. Most of the songs actually go unchanged before being rerecorded for the final cut of the album. I am willing to send you a copy of this cd because I hope that it convinces you that Waters is a far more talented musician than Gilmour. Be mindful that the origional draft of the wall sounds a bit raw and harsh because Waters knew that he would have a chance to rerecord it. There clearly would be no Wall without Roger Waters. There would also be no Animals, or Final Cut without Waters. He also wrote more of Wish you were here and darkside than gilmour. Interestingly enough he spotted Gilmour’s talent when he wanted a replacement for Barrett. Enough said I hope that you respond and that this cd convinces you. If not, no offense taken, we still love Pink Floyd!
[Hi! I agree that Waters wrote a lot of the music and that he left in space for Gilmour (and Wright) to fill. But, I must say that I don’t see Waters as a better musician than Gilmour. Quite the oposite… Waters had the ideas and new how to pitch them to the band and to an audience, but Gilmour was the musician. Gilmour often took Waters’ crude ideas and made them into the songs we now know… not always, but often. David played bass on most songs on The Wall too. I think what made them so unique, if you look beside all the disagreements, was that they made eachother shine. Waters needed David to play guitar and sing on his songs and David needed Waters to write good songs for his playing.
Thanks for the offer, but I think I have that demo already. I’ve listened to it a lot and, at least the demo I have, is with a full band. It’s very crude and there are some stuff on it that sounds very different to the final album. As far as I know, Waters doesn’t play any guitar or drums on the demo. In fact, he has stated many times that his original demo that he showed to the band, was almost purely his voice and accoustic guitar with some soundeffects. And, Comfortably Numb was written by David for his first solo album in 78… I have the original demo. If you do have a different demo than I describe, then please send it. I’d appreciate that! – Bjorn]
Eulogy says:
Well, it’s you’re prerogative to bash Roger, but I think Roger doesn’t give rats ass what people think and that’s really all there is to it. Perhaps he’s really not a singer in a classical sense nor great bass player, but he’s really good musician, he’s got a vision. I really admire his attitude, love his nihilistic lyrics and vocals too when he’s speakin’ or screaming like ass on fire. Some of his bass lines are really clever although really elementary. David’s solo work is for the most part really kinda boring. Love his playing, tone and singing and listen to his work for old times sake, but I really think Roger has made better songs and music. On A Island is an exception, it’s really good song. Nobody really knows besides the guys themselves how did what in PF. I think the sum is greater than it’s parts.
And I wonder to who are you referring this “van halen” wanking? CN end solos are really boring but Snowy, Andy Fairweather Low and especially DBII does a great job delicering PF music. As a main solo player DBII does things his own way and doesn’t try to copy 100% Gilmour. Sign of a great and talented musician.
Sorry for the rant! Peace, happiness and merry Cristmass!
[Oh… where should I start???? Seriously, I agree with you on most points and so I’ve written in the article too. I love Waters for the stuff his written, sung and played. No question. However, – I definitely think you can who did what in the studio. Both David and Rick has a very distinct way of creating music and I could put my finger of a thousand things Waters has taken credit for. He had the idea… often that was it. Still who can write good music without good ideas? As you point out, – the sum is definitely greater that it’s parts. I must admit that I strongly disagree with you on Snowy’s and Low’s way of playing the Floyd tunes. It’s not right… sorry. DBII does a pretty good job and I love his Time and Dogs solos, but the other two… I don’t wan to go there… Have a Merry Christmas! – Bjorn]
Interesting discussion.
Now a little mind game: Imagine a sane Barrett, would he eventually have fallen out with Waters anyway? I think so, because Waters had huge ambitions and I don´t think Syd was that kind of person. Now imagine he got together with his teenage friend Gilmour and started a new band. Two sweet, sensual guys. And then add Rick Wright.
A different kind of music but terriffic no dout.
It´s never only one person that makes a band, teamwork is always the best way to create great results. David, Rick and Nick have always stated this as a fact but Roger thinks he´s the salt of the earth. Sad.
This is what I have against him.
[I agree. A band isn’t driven only by one person… not even Coldplay or U2. Although Roger has stated many times that he misses David’s voice and guitar, he often seem to forget that David actually wrote much of the music… not to forget that he also made some of Roger’s crude ideas into gold. It’s also sad that Roger seem to have totally forgotten Nick and Rick (although Nick has now joined him on stage, but that’s more due to the fact that they were once close friends). I have always thought that Rick is teh most underestimated of the four… eh five. It’s surpising that a man who is so devoted to world issues as Waters, seems to have a lot of demons in his own life and past. He doesn’t seem to be willing to admit that Floyd wans’t his solo project… it was a band. What would Beatles have sounded like if George and Ringo didn’t put their trademark sound on Lennon/McCartney creations? – Bjorn]
i think it takes the whole floyd to make the best stuff!
gilmour leads and great solos.
waters great lyrics and ideas
wright great backing on keyboards
mason great sound effects and drum technique
[Couldn’t agree more! That’s why solo projects rarely work as good as the whole band. – Bjorn]
No harm done fellow Floydian. Cheers
Oh sorry Cody..I guess I should have said Floyd Material of DSOTM and WALL.. This post was about Gilmour Vs. Waters.. didn’t even think of Syd days.. nor listen to them.. sorry for my mis-guided keyboard… I thought also as you stated.. :You would know what I mean..;) :
I like how Michael said on Nov 7th “I’m a fan of the original Floyd” and in the same sentence, he brought in DSOTM and The Wall…What’s…uh the deal man? That’s not original Floyd. Original Floyd was over when Syd left. Not that the Floyd after was unoriginal but you know what I mean…well, I know Bjorn does…I don’t know about the rest of you…Cheers everyone.
Hi Bjorn. I can see that your page is receiving much attention from latin people. I can try a translation of what Victor wrote:
“Hi. To me it seems like Waters sounds bad and I think that he picks bad musicians with the only purpose of being noticed as a best player. Pink Floyd, since Waters’s departure changed and a lot, but remains excelent. The soul of the Rock is the guitar, Waters is quit good writting but lyrics ain’t all, so I hope Gilmour make up his mind and revive Pink Floyd”
In my opinion: I don’t think at all that the musicians that play with Waters in IN THE FLESH DVD were bad. They are some of the best professional musicians: Andy Fairweatherlow, Doyle Braham II, I don’t recall right now the names of the drummer, 2nd guitar and the keyboard’s player but HEY VIctor: This last guy played with Gimlour since “Delicate sound of thunder”!!!! and definitevly the bass’s parts are much much better with Andy Fairweatherlow or waters than with Guy Pratt (sorry.. to me Guy Pratt’s sound in PULSE and in Delicate is too compressed too over-procesed too far away from what it should be).
[Thanks Hugo. By all means, the musicians that Waters choose are not bad. As you say, they are some of the most talentend in the industry. But, that’s part of the problem as I see it. They’re just playing too good and it sounds sterile. Pink Floyd them selves were never top of the line musicians and I think that is what made their music so special. They had a certain feeling and a tone that Waters’ band has a hard time re-creating. Floyd did it to some degree in the 80’s and 90’s, but that was partly because they were three from the original lineup. Still, it wasn’t superb. However, I think David has done a hell of a job to recreate the 70’s sound on his latest tour and Guy Pratt has finally realised that Waters’ way of playing actually contributed a lot to the Floyd sound (which he admits now). As a sidenote, I think that Doyle Braham II is an outsanding guitarist and nailed some of the solos very well on the In the Flesh tour. – Bjorn]
victor de gabriel says:
hola a mi me parece que waters suena muy mal y que el se rodea de malos musicos para resaltar, pink floyd a partir de la salida de waters cambio y mucho pero siguio siendo exelente. EL ALMA DEL ROCK ES LA GUITARRA asi que waters es muy bueno escribiendo pero las letras no son todo espero que gilmour se decida a revivir a pink floyd .
[Hi Victor! Could you please write in English? – Bjorn]
Demetris Michaelides says:
I respect both of them but Gilmour is the soul of Pink Floyd. He is the one who touches people’s souls with his guitar and voice. I have seen Waters in the States and he was good really good. I travelled from Cyprus to London for the live 8 concert just to see Pink Floyd for 25 minutes. Those 25 minutes are the best 25 minutes i have evered experienced. It was really great to see them together. Dave though is just amazing! David Gilmour is the best musician ever!!! Thanks!
[I totally agree! I too got the chance to see them in London last year and it was an “out of body” experience. I still can’t believe I was there when I watch the DVD! Cheers! – Bjorn]
sir david gilmour and mr roger waters are like night and day in the recent issue of guitar legends ,david mentions he can not write lyrics like roger does or did ,how ever david wrote fantastic music, past and present ,i have attended (radio kaos tour &2002) solo perfomances of roger waters, and the pink floyd during the delicate sound of thunder tour and the 1994 tour both here the U.S.A, and the recent david gilmour concert in los angeles, california, kodak theater,this year.
i have seen a dvd of the rio concert of roger waters and it is very sad to see roger lip sync and his voice is very bad and it came to my attention if he did not lip sync at that 2002 show , it was a great show i enjoyed quite much i my add the radio kaos tour was an experience the venue was almost empty (san diego sports arena) but he stated in later interview, that particular show was very positive ,
i was amazing to see david(kodak theatre ) performance of the floyd songs and specially echoes, he has a great voice and play a hell of a guitar , i must say the two are great true legends roger waters was the driving force for most of the golden era of pink floyd ,david fantatisc riffs ,solos, vocals and nick and richard is what made pink floyd what it is now, with out leaving out syd barret off course , i personally like the music side of the artist i do not follow the personal issues
everybody has problems i must say, on the present david has done better than roger musically speaking but when they got together for that live 8 show it brought the best of them for the fans after all thats what we are ………….
Wow… mm Bjorn I must say that I disagree with your poin of view. I’ve just checked the PULSE dvd and compared with the In the flesh DVD of Roger Waters’s tour.
mmm.. how to say this? mmm.. man.. the only thing better in PULSE is David Gilmour.. everything else is better in Roger Water’s show. The correct feeling and tempo of the songs, the correct figures in the bass (guy pratt just deliverately get away of Waters style of playing)..
So, Altough David Gilmour is my guitar hero, and I agree with you in the fact that he is the musical expert behind Floyd’s music, I must say that Roger Waters is the true soul behind Pink Floyd and that shows in scene..
[I think PULSE is great, but far from the best stuff Floyd has done. I agree with you on Pratt… funny thing is that he admits now that he played very bad (see latest Q&A on David’s site). Still, the In The Flesh DVD from Waters sounds more like a coverband with Waters on vocals. Sorry, but without Gilmour, Mason and Wright it’s not sounding like Floyd at all. At least David had Wright on the tour. – Bjorn]
HA i agree completly!!
This argument is pointless. Gilmour without Waters or Waters without Glimour is not Pink Floyd period. I am a great fan of the original Floyd DSOTM and WALL which sounds different than anything either has put out since. There was youth, want and to the most part willingness in their sound and attitude while making both.. nothing compares to them together in their early years…Listen to some live stuff from then.. Glimour’s sound has changed alot and is much more polished (I want more flanger/phaser and rakes ) now and to me has lost something although he is still amazing and in my top ten best guitar players of all time. Waters, Well he is a song writer not a player… nothing he has written grabs me like the early songs, and yes he put alot into his Bass then. I recently watched the Waters “in the Flesh” dvd and enjoyed what Bramhall and Snowy White did with gilmours Comfortably Numb parts but it was not Pink Floyd. If I had to choose one… I would leave it to Mason and Wright to pick…. but I think they already did that.. Your Pink Floyd Experience is as close as they get themselves sometimes. But together, going back to their old sound, would be unbeatable.
When will they realize they need each other and reunite? Gilmour is too sweet, and Waters is too sour, they need each other to balance each other out. It is so obvious to everyone, but their egos won’t allow it. It is sad.
Bjorn your site rocks! even if you hated Dark Side i’d still come here…hell, I visit this site more than I do David’s.
[Thanks a lot! That’s quite a compliment! And… Dark Side is definitely one of my favourites, don’t worry, he he! – Bjorn]
zBladez says:
What I don’t quite understand is WHY it matters. They were both the creative elements and ingredients that made Pink Floyd what it was. Apart, they are just not up to their standards, but still better than most musicians. Call it symbiosis if you will.
[Of course it doesn’t matter, but it’s fun to write something like this and hear what you people have to say. Of course I mean what I wrote, but I’m expressing my taste if you like, as we all are, and I’m extremely aware of the fact that no-one is greater than the other. Floyd wouldn’t have been much without one of them (including Rick and Nick). That’s like Beatles without one of the Fab Four. It wouldn’t have sounded the same, no matter how much one hates George, John, Paul or Ringo. – Bjorn]
I respect everyones ideas here on who they believe is the better musician. There are some things that Roger did that I feel are complete shit. However…there are some things that Gilmour did that I not only feel, but know, are complete shit. *Cough* About Face *Cough*. I mean…is that album a soundtrack for Police Academy or Miami Vice the tv show? It all comes down to Syd..then bam! he’s gone…now we have Roger…he did some good stuff yada yada…Then he said hell with it and took complete control of the band….and what did he leave us with? Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals, The Wall and The Final Cut. But hey…those albums must suck cause Waters is untalented right? Wrong. I’m getting off on a tangent here…I like both musicians equally. Both are equal in their own right. Gilmour as a musician and Waters as a lyricist. Ever listen to Momentary? that’s the sound of a Pink Floyd that’s lost…hell, rub that album hard enough and it’ll say “David Gilmour solo album” instead of Pink Floyd. I suppose the same is trun in the Roger sense when it comes to the Final Cut…but hell, at least that was tasteful. I’d chose that over Momentary any day…hell i’d chose Pros and Cons over Momentary any day. You will NEVER hear me knock The Division Bell though, that album is beautiful. All i’m tryin to say here is that both are equally good in their own right. Can Roger play the 2nd solo to Comfortably Numb? No. Would Gilmour have done the awesome tape loop for money? No. Even Gilmour admited on a documentary that Roger did better than him on the demo for On The Run using the VCS3. All i’m saying is…both are awesome and we, as well as the rest of the world, were truly blessed to have these two gents get together for a spell and write and play some tunes…so stop bitchin’ and start listenin…cause really…that’s all you can do. And Bjorn…still respect you man…only thing on this site I don’t respect is that link that takes me to where I can buy a Gilmour strap…I was so excited when I saw that…then I saw the price and wanted to kill myself….cheers gents.
[Hm… I never thought that this topic would stir up so many different feelings… Still, it’s great to hear what you have to say. One thing you forgot tho… what about Radio Kaos. There are some great songs, but let’s be honest. Waters lost him self to the Miami Vice era too (and yes, About Face is awful). Hope you don’t dislike my site too much… I didn’t set the price for the Gilmour strap, ha ha! Cheers! – Bjorn]
Stephen Pearson says:
wow – fantastically said!!!
gilmour is so the best!
calum says:
But just remember,David Gilmour wouldnt be as big as he is today without the original floyd(syd,ROGER….)
I cant Choose between them,they both have their good and bad points.
[You’re right about that, but as goes for Roger… He wouldn’t have been much without Syd and David. – Bjorn]
Roger Waters is alcohol – sloppy and overrated…
David Gilmour is marijuana – inspiring and intergalactic!
[He he! Hear hear! – Bjorn]
hehe I couldnt stand to read on about this war! I believe that there arent better than eachother. To me in my books, I think that Gilmours guitar sound and vocals are just as Spectacular as Waters Lyrics. either way floyd wouldnt of started with out the Mastermind of Syd Barrett. Why has he been left out of this war? Syd Barrett Started the band, and had brought so many early pink floyd classics such as “See Emily Play”, “Lucifer Sam” or “Arnold Layne”, and I Believe that Gilmour or Waters wouldnt have gotten where they are today without the Genious Syd Barrett. Gilmour, in my eyes is a fabulous musician, and Waters is a Spectacular Lyricist, But to me Syd Barrett will always be the creative mastermind of Pink Floyd. Which anyhow brings me back to my point, I think this war over who is better than who is ridiculous! For me I get the same buzz from listening to David Gilmours Amazing Guitar works, as I do for Listening to Roger’s Meaningful lyrics. They are equal in my books, and I think that “On an Island” was just as amazing as “the Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking”. I just appreciate the fact that everyone from the band [including Nick Mason and Rick Wright] were there at that time to have been able to collaborate together to make those amazing albums over the years, because they all helped contribute to them.and I wouldnt have been able to hear such classics Albums such as “UmmaGumma” or “Animals”. So for me it wouldnt have been as great without any of the band members, in my opinion…
R.I.P. Syd (Roger) Keith Barrett:(
[The “war” was started sometime in the mid 80’s when the media created two monsters out of Gilmour and Waters. I think even they got frustrated over the situation. Syd was never a part of this and I think that most fans see him as the unique man he was and not like a rivalist like the two other main Floyds…. because, let’s face it, – both Waters and Gilmour like to be in charge. Still I agree with you 100%… Floyd wouldn’t have been what it became, or is, without both Gilmour and Waters…. or Syd, Nick and Rick. – Bjorn]
Floydfan1 says:
Alright, Pavan, you DO want to see Waters in concert. I just saw him on the 24th, and it was AMAZING! All of the music, i mean every song, is just absolutely magnificent! I really give Dave Kilminster and Snowy White credit. They handled Gilmour’s tunes very well. (But its still not Gilmour) I say it was 80% Floyd. Each song had the lead guitar above all the other sounds, and it rocked! I mean, there was a deep bass, and a lot of sound effects, but the guitar was just awsome. If anyone says that Waters can’t jam, then they haven’t seen him in concert. And if you have, and you still say that, then your one poor soul. Who needs Gilmour when Waters is just so dang good?
[OK… Everyone is entiteled to their own oppinion, dudes. Don’t get me started about Kilminister. – Bjorn]
Yeah, actually i want to go see him at Nissan Pavlilion, but no one wants to take me. (I can’t drive due to age). I have a decent bootleg, and i will agree, i wasn’t impressed. I agree with you Bjorn on this one. Now if gilmour played here, then i would definetly go…
Why can’t Pink Floyd just tour together. This whole Waters, Gilmour crap annoys the hell out of me…
Oh, and Roger for some odd reson, hasnt pu blished any books (of my knoledge) but he does write poems. I havent been able to come across any, but i do know he writes them. And along with all of that, i know he does a heck of a lot reading himself. So maybe one day he’ll publish a book. (But i wouldnt see GIlmour doing anything like that.)
[He hasn’t published anything, but maybe when he retires from rock n roll we’ll see some poems or short stories…. I wouldn’t compare Waters and Gilmour on this matter. Waters is a poet, writer and a lyricist while Gilmour is a musician.- Bjorn]
Okay, okay. I admit Roger doesnt actually “sing” his songs. But he does use the voices of the three back-up vocalists in harmony with his own voice to create a unique sound. (yet another one of his talents, creating a unique sound.) Amused to death, the song, is a good example of the softly spoken lyrics with a woman’s vocals to back it up. its quit relaxing. Im not argueing this with anyone, its just moy opinion. But if yopu decide im wrong, lol, then i guess my next comment will be pretty heavy…
[He he… write as heavy as you want, but remember that I am the moderator :-) Waters has a unique way of singing and I have always liked it when he whispers or talks the lyrics and dub that with screaming the lyrics in the background. There’s lots of it on both Final Cut and Amused to Death. But it surprised me that a man who has always been so devoted to every detail can go on tour using a backtrack for 50% of his vocals. It was sad seeing him miming to his own words this summer… I will always love his work, but I think it’s time to put the bass on the shelf. – Bjorn]
mehmet says:
this is an argument with no end in sight :))
last comments:
1. for great ideas, lyrics and music: listen to PF albums with RW era (excl Final Cut)
2. for great music with not so great ideas and lyrics: listen to Gilmour and RW less PF albums
3. for great ideas and lyrics but no music with talking and shouting singing listen to RW albums.
Though Gilmour may be the better performer and guitarist, Roger Waters is ten times better then anyone alive at writing songs. He is hands down the greatest lyracist and song writer in the world. He’s greater then Lennon, Plant, and dylan put together. His work is world wide, both with and without Floyd. His writing just touches the hearts of everyone who listens, and his albums are perfectly rounded, with a little bit of everything in them. Anyone who says Gilmour is better than Waters is just in a “Gilmour mood.” At times i enjoy Gilmour way better than Waters. And at other times i feel that Waters is the musical genuise in the band. (which may not be stretching the truth.) So i believe it all depends on what mood you’re in, but Waters and Gilmour are both great artists, so regardless who you like better, you still have a great taste in music…
[I think we agree… No doubt that Water’s write better lyrics or have better ideas than Gilmour. Still, in my mind, Gilmour has a better undestanding of how to put those ideas to life. That’s what made the 70’s Floyd so special. – Bjorn/ this post has been moved from “BK Tube Driver Review”.]
Bubba says:
try Dylan sometime.
Waters doesn’t hold a candle
sorry i didnt clarify this. the critic i previously wrote was directed towards the person who said “Music Waters did after PF is not listanable.” That comment upset me in a few ways. Amused to Death is genuis. no doubt about it. so I guess if you like Gilmour, then you listen to the musical aspect of the songs. More interseted about enjoying the songs and not really goping in depth with them. depending onmy mood, i guess i choose either or. but don’t just drop Waters like anold book. Give him life and let him openyour eyes to something wonderful. It truely is a real treat, and i could only hope more people could see it like some of us do…
[I think I’m more into the music, as you point out. I appreciate good lyrics, and especially Waters’, but for some reason I have never had the urge to dig deep into the matter… Still, I wonder why Waters hasn’t published a book. He could have written wonderful poems or even interesting novels. – Bjorn]
WOW! Please tell me you didnt just say Amused to Death is a bad album, b/c i choose that album over Wish You Were Here any day!!!! (though the Wall is my fav, with Dark Side in a close second.) I do believe Gilmour’s music with Roger’s ideas make the Pink floyd what it is, but even without Floyd, Waters has been largely succesful with his writings. (I only wish he got together with Lennon, God Bless His Soul….) Gilmour’s solo work isnt great at all. Even the recent “On An Island” isnt very functional. It’s an album that I listen to, but put to the side when i’m done. with Amused to Death, I HAVE to listen to it again, over and over. If you’re saying that his work is disdanful and tasteless, maybe you’re just into the “music” part of the Floyd, not the deeper meaning. “The Final Cut” is a wonderful album by itself, and i do think it’s better than any Gilmour album. Period! But don’t get me wrong, I enjoy Gilmour a lot, and his floyd work is untouchable. Just tryto give Water’s a second chance. Look at the deeper meaning of his music, and then write back. I promise you’ll see a difference once time has passed and you listen to it again. (or maybe for the first time.)
[Are you asking me? I don’t think I said that Amused was a bad album. Not at all… In fact, Amused is, and has always been, on my top 10 list. No doubt. – Bjorn]
thedarksideofthecat says:
While ATD is a good album, his first album lost A LOT of money. His work with PF is legendary, but as a solo musician he isn’t that good (almost all of Water’s versions of Comfortably Numb are crap), but I love all of his lyrics, but its just as a live performer and solo artist he’s not as strong as gilmour
Clive Weiner says:
dudes wake up smell the coffee, good your brain is lighting up// roger waters is not to be compared to david gilmour// gilmour maybe gets in the top 50 bands or lead guitar genius crap/// roger waters is the NUMBER ONE SOLO ARTIST OF ALL TIME// AS BANDS GO U2 IS ONE, THE ROLLING STONES 2, ROGER WATERS 3// DAVE KILMINSTER MAKES DAVID GILMOUR LOOK ordinary// doyle cranks that fender strat it must make mr gilmour realize he might have won the FIGHT vs ROGER but roger WON THE WAR// HE WROTE COMPOSED ALL LYRICS FOR DARK SIDE OF THE MOON, ADD pigs in the wings , the machine, heart of the sun, etc etc etc// roger only plays songs he wrote and composed// i was at PINK FLOYD 1994 LA, without roger the hard ROCK was missing// as for andrew loyd webber and the piano lid breaks his fucking fingers// roger changes his shows, in the flesh tour EVOLVED WITH EACH SHOW// RIFFS WOULD CHANGE, roger listens to every concert after it’s finished// to improve each and every song// andrew loyd plays exactly the same show evry night for years and years and years // roger DARK SIDE OF THE MOON LIVE with dave kilminster jon carin andy fairweather low snowy white is OUTSTANDING// DOGS WITH BADASS DOYLE IS CLASSICAL HARD ROCK MUSIC AT ITS BEST // if i dont see have a good morning good evening and goodnight\]
// regards clive
I must agree with Bjorn on this Waters vs Gilmour issue. Waters is the “ideas” man and Gilmour is the musician. Music Waters did after PF is not listanable. One thing I differ from Bjorn is I dont think Final Cut is a good record. Nowhere near PF standarts. Waters writes theatrical music. It was Gilmour putting it into this great multi-dimantional rock format that we all love and worship.
I also find Waters a bit arrogant. Who else would rate himself among the best 5 song writers of the World? Who else would trash Andrew Loyd Webber’s music? The guy is a megaloman! I am sure he tried to belittle the rest of the PF members towards the end. And still may do. I think Gilmour and the rest have a just reason not wanting to work with him ever again.
Hugh Jones says:
“Waters writes theatrical music”. That’s very interesting. Maybe that’s why he hates Andrew Lloyd Webber so much, because he sees something of himself in him ;-)
roger maybe arrogant to you, have you watched his interview with HOWARD STERN?? DOES ROGER SOUND ARROGANT? FACT , roger is humble, pink floyd totally stabbed him in the back add EMI// roger was the only MUSICIAN NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY PINK FLOYD SONGS EXCEPT the wall// go figure 24 songs ROGER and the band played IN THE FLESH live and DARK SIDE OF THE MOON live// doyle bramhall DOGS etc and dave kilminster dark side// i was at pink floyd concert 1994, he ripped off all rogers songs knowing mr waters was banned by david gilmour from playing any of themmm// go figure each band member had one vote so they always voted 3 to 1 that roger can’t play pink floyd tunes that roger composed and wrote all the LYRICS /// roger PLAYED THE WALL LIVE in 1980// the sound all comes from roger// you tube 1980 the wall live ROGER SINGS another brick in the wall// SNOWY WHITE IS WAY BETTER ON GUITAR THAN DAVID EVEN BACK THEN.. snowy white was not even mentioned back when
ammar says:
man i am seriously pissed.what u have been saying about Waters is so untrue. i mean i like Gilmour alot and i respect him and completely admire him and he is in my opinion one of the most greatest guitarists ever but i must say that Roger is still pretty good.Hell he was the vocalist for pink floyd so that does mean something.and besides i think the final cut is one of my favourite floyd albums and i adore Roger for making that record.But you cant judje someone from a bootleg.I mean I went to see Roger at Hyde Park in London and it was amazing.I liked the whole show and thier new guitarist Dave Kilminster was also amazing i mean after seeing that show people were like “who needs Pink Floyd” when youve got Waters.So i suggest that you dont judge him without seeing his show live and then youll see why we love him.
[Well, I’ve seen Waters twice… Maybe I didn’t make that clear enough in the article, – in 2002 and this summer and I have to admit that I’m not impressed. But that’s just my personal oppinion and I respect your’s. Hope you like my site nevertheless. – Bjorn]
who sais david gilmour is so great??? doyle bramhall, snowy white, dave kilminster, eric dclapton, john male, trevor rabin etc etc i could name another 20 lead guitarists that make dave not the best// listen on you tube to roger, dave kilminster, snowy white, andy fairweather low, jon carin do COMFORTABLY NUMB// ROGER ALWAYS USES 2 LEAD GUITARS, the sound roger pounds out with total clarity, beethoven is impressed.. you tube roger waters comfortably numb with dave kilminster and always SNOWY WHITE, THEN WATCH “DOGS’ with badass doyle bramhall. ON LEAD GUITAR // MR GILMOUR WON THE FIGHT vs roger , roger won the WAR, listen to the music, then comment folkjs
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your illiterate comment made it impossible to make out the message you were trying to output…
what do you mean illiterate ?
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By Noreen Bowden | July 27, 2009
A number of monuments to emigration exist in Ireland; one or two of these are well-known, while many of the rest of them have more of a local appeal.
Let me know if you know of any others to add to this list, either in Ireland or around the world.
Larne, Co. Antrim – “Emigrants to America�?
See it on Flickr.
bbc.co.uk – A stroll through Larne – “Migration from Larne”
Larne.gov.uk tourism site
This memorial depicts a family emigrating in 1717, and their appearance is in marked contrast to the more common depictions of famine-era emigrants. They are well-dressed and relatively prosperous-looking; the woman is carrying a Bible and the boy is carrying his shoes. Their positioning, in which they look forward into the distance, suggests a sense of possibility and even pride. The figures appear to be a literate, reasonably well-off family looking forward to the future.
The inscription on the monument reads:
This memorial, unveiled on 16th May 1992 by Professor Bobby Moss PhD of South Carolina, is dedicated to the memory of those first Ulster emigrants who sailed from Larne in May 1717 upon the “Friends Goodwill” bound for Boston. They were to be the first of many.”
“There is no other race in the United States that can produce a roll of honour so long and so shining with distinction. And who shall deny our claim to have done more, much more than any others to make the United States”.
Two related monuments:
Coffin ship, National Famine Monument at Murrisk, Co Mayo. John Behan – See it on Flickr.
Arrival, United Nations, New York City. John Behan- See it on Flickr.
These are closely linked memorials that tell different stories.
“Coffin Ship” places the emphasis on death and suffering tied in with the departure -skeletons form the structure of the ship, and the figures are lying down. It is significant that this monument is in Ireland, where the Famine’s toll of suffering and death was acute.
“Arrival” emphasises the successful completion of the journey- the figures are upright, and some of them are leaving the boat. Additionally, these are fully-fleshed out buildings and the figures on the boat have individual features. The sculpture’s location in New York and its more positive tone reflects the fact that for those who made the journey, there was the possibility of a new life. It also reflects the different meaning of the famine for the two countries: While for Ireland, the Famine was synonymous with despair, emigration and death; in the New World, however, discourse about Famine emigration, while acknowledging many of its tragic aspects, also reflects the fact that the large-scale migration was a starting point for much of Irish-American history.
Famine Monuments, Ireland and Canada – Rowan Gillespie
Famine Monument, Dublin
Ireland Park, Toronto
Ireland Park Foundation
Explanation of each sculpture
Video presentation on the park
The Toronto memorial is unusual in that it focuses on the mindset of the immediate arrivals.
Falcarragh, Co. Donegal – The Bridge of Tears and monument stone
The translation of text on the stone: “Friends and relations of the person who was emigrating would come this far. Here they separated. This is the Bridge of Tears.�?
See the bridge on ancestry.com
A photo of the bridge emphasising the desolation of the area
Derry –”The Emigrants” Eamon O’Doherty’s sculpture at Waterloo Place
About the sculptor
“The Emigrants” (Arts Council of Northern Ireland)
This monument depicts a couple departing with their children and two grandparents saying farewell. Two of the figures in the departing family look backward at the grandparents, while two look forward, toward the port.
The sculptor is showing the relationship between the emigrants’ past and future and the people left behind. The depiction of two figures looking back and two looking forward highlights both the pain of departure and the possibilities inherent in migration. The boy has a musical instrument, and the young girl is carrying a book; both of these signify the culture they will bring with them to their new land.
The clothing and the figures are highly stylised, so it seems that the sculptor is trying to represent the idea of emigration itself rather than commemorate a particular set of emigrants.
Sligo Famine Memorial
This sculpture shows the vulnerability of the Famine emigrants – yet the figures are also demonstrating tenderness and concern for each other. In contrast to the family at Larne, they are focused inward – emigration is not for them a matter of looking forward to a bright future. The young girl is pointing out toward the harbour, and ultimately to her future in America.
Annie Moore with her brothers, Cobh – Images on Flickr
Annie Moore at Ellis Island, New York – Images on Flickr
Annie Moore was the first immigrant to pass through Ellis Island in New York, which was opened on January 1, 1892. She and her brothers were joining her parents, who had emigrated in 1888.
Kiltimagh – “I’ll send you the fare” – Sally McKenna, 2006
Departing emigrant of the 1950s
The plaque on the ground reads,
“This sculpture is dedicated by Bill Durkan to the memory of the young men and women who emigrated from Kiltimagh, Bohola and the surrounding areas during the 1950s.”
Many young men and women emigrated alone in the 1950s. This is an extremely poignant depiction of emigration: the figure is almost ghost-like in its positioning on the footpath of a town street, as he trudges along, accompanied by no one. The small suitcase seems to highlight his vulnerability, heightening the notion that he may be ill-prepared for such a life-changing journey. The lack of pedestal gives a greater sense of immediacy or intimacy to the figure.
This is a monument to the ordinary, unheralded emigrant, yet it is also very specific in its reference to a particular place and time. It is unusual in memorialising such a recent migration; many of those it is meant to memorialise are still alive.
Cork Listening Posts
Cork City Council
The Listening Posts are an innovative use of oral history. The repeating voices of the posts are like ghostly presences inhabiting the quays.
This monument is different from the others in its visual minimalism, as it would be impossible to tell from the appearance of the sculpture what it is meant to memorialise.
Other monuments and memorials:
Irish Memorial, Philadelphia – Flickr
Famine monument, Cambridge, Massachusetts – Flickr
New Basin Canal Irish Memorial, New Orleans, Louisiana – Flickr
Famine memorial – Sydney, Australia – Flickr
New Basin Canal Irish Memorial – Flickr
Irish Veteran Memorial Project – website
Shot at Dawn Memorial – Flickr
International – monuments crated by other nations to commemorate various migrations
Emigration Stone – Cromarty, Scotland – Flickr
Emigration monument, Hanko, Finland – Flickr
Monleone, Cicagna, Italy – Flickr
Emigrant’s Monument, Feltre – Flickr
Garden of Exile – Berlin Flickr, web, Flickr, Youtube
Monument of mass emigration, The Three Changjiang River Gorges, China – Flickr
Chinese coolie, Singapore – Flickr
Lampedusa, Italy – monument to migrants who died at sea trying to reach Europe – web article, Flickr
Migrant children, Fremantle, Australia – Flickr, more Flickr
UNESCO – Migration and World Heritage Sites
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The call for papers below came through on the Irish Diaspora Listserv. How exciting that the 90th anniversary of the Irish Race Congress in Buenos Aires will be commemorated in this way! That Congress was held in preparation for the International Congress of the Irish Race in Paris, and the Irish government sent envoys to Irish communities in South Africa, South America, Australia, New Zealand, Russia, and the US seeking support for a Republic. [See a 1921 New York Times report on the Buenos Aires Congress.]
It was just one example of Ireland’s political globalisation in the early days of independence. As the originator of the idea of the Congress of the Irish Race, Thomas Hughes Kelly of New York, declared: ‘Ireland’s future is not limited to its geographic boundaries. She gave away to the world her strongest and most trustworthy sons. Now we compensate her with our support, which is the first offspring of that prolific seed’.
But I digress – below is the call for papers. I’ll post up more info when I find out more.
INTERNATIONAL IRISH DIASPORA CONGRESS
Buenos Aires (Argentina) — From 15th to 19th of June 2011.
Official Notification: Presentation of Papers- 1st Call
In June of 2011, the 1st International Irish Diaspora Congress will take
in the City of Buenos Aires, exactly 90 years after a meeting of a
similar nature took place in 1921. The principal objective of next
year’s Congress is to stimulate cultural exchange and share experiences
between Irish Associations and people.
Each participating Institution is asked to give a brief account of
current activities and its strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and
threats. Learning how the Irish Community has integrated into each
specific Country-Destination will be of general interest, too.
Participating individuals or Associations are invited to present
speeches and/or lectures on the topic of cultural diversity of emigrants
and their descendents.
The Department of Irish Culture from the Universidad Nacional de La
Plata (UNL) & the Universidad de Ciencias Empresariales y Sociales
(UCES) will provide the academic framework for these expositions. The
papers submitted for consideration must relate to any one of the
following topics:
- The Irish Diaspora
- Literature and the Irish Emigrant (essays, short stories, novels, poetry)
- History of Irish Emigration in each country
- Fundraising for Irish Associations (experiences, tips)
- Irish Education abroad
- Irish Dance & Music (experiences)
- Business and Work opportunities for Irish Descendents Abroad
Those who are interested in participating must submit an abstract before
February 1, 2011, written in English, of no more than 300 words, on any
of the aforementioned topics.
The proposals that are deemed adequate (given general interests and the
length of the Congress) have until May 15, 2011 to send the paper in
full to the Department’s inbox.
The Academic Committee will be comprised of people with great knowledge
on the subjects to be discussed, including professors from the UNL and
the UCES.
For more info: http://www.asociacionirlandesa.com.ar/?lang=en or
asoargirl@yahoo.com.ar
Call for papers for the annual conference of the Canadian Association for Irish Studies to be held at Saint Mary’s University, Halifax, May 19-22, 2010.
IRELAND AND ITS DISCONTENTS
Success and Failure in Modern Ireland
Canadian Association for Irish Studies/ l’Association canadienne d’études irlandaises Annual Conference, 2010
Saint Mary’s University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
“Anyone who is failing at one thing,” psychoanalyst Adam Phillips has suggested, “is always succeeding at another.” We invite proposals for papers interrogating the relationship between success and failure in modern and contemporary Ireland, as reflected in its politics, its economic policies, its literature, and its popular culture. The Celtic Tiger is one obvious recent example of a ‘success’ narrative that was intimately linked to a series of failures on the part of Irish society to safeguard its more vulnerable communities. With the recent publication of the “Ryan Report,” to cite another example, it is clear that the success of the Catholic Church in exerting its power over Ireland’s educational and reformatory institutions came at the price of a failure to guarantee the safety and welfare of Ireland’s youth. By the same token, it might be argued that Fianna Fáil’s longtime political success depended on the failure to engage with the ‘National Question,’ i.e., Partition and Northern Ireland. Success and failure, as manifested in language revival policies, in gender-related issues, in the lives of prominent public figures, and the reality and perceptions of the Irish diaspora, including the Irish in Canada, are also topics worthy of consideration.
We welcome papers that address other topics and proposals for special panels.
Please send proposals including contact information (250 words) by
Pádraig Ó Siadhail, D’Arcy McGee Chair of Irish Studies, Saint Mary’s University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada, B3H 3C3
(padraig.osiadhail@smu.ca) by 15 January 2010.
American Conference for Irish Studies: Pennsylvania, May 2010
2010 ACIS Conference
Deadline: 24 November, 2009
The 2010 national meeting of the American Conference for Irish Studies will
be held on 5 – 8 May 2010 at the Penn Stater Conference Center Hotel in
State College, PA.
There will be an opening reception on Wednesday evening, May 5th, and
concurrent panels will begin on Thursday morning, May 6th. The announced
theme is intended to encourage a broad range of paper topics.
Papers are welcome on any Irish Studies topic, including traditional
concerns of the discipline and evolving areas of interest in the visual,
literary, and interdisciplinary areas. We welcome proposals for individual
papers, which, if accepted, will be placed within a relevant panel.
Proposals for panels are especially welcome, and panels have been proposed
on Reassessing Diasporic Studies within Irish Studies and Reassessing Irish
Historiography. Additional papers are welcome on such topics as evolving
literary and visual arts movements, the culture and literature of Northern
Ireland, and other related topics!
Plenary speakers confirmed to date are Dean John Harrington (Fordham
University) and Dr. James Smith (Boston College). Moya Cannon will be
reading from her poetry at a special session. U.S carriers offer frequent
flights to State College, PA. Further details will be posted as they become
available. A conference website is also under development.
Due Date for Conference Paper Proposals: Tuesday, 24 November 2009. Please send your 250 word (or less) abstract to Dr. Tramble T. Turner at
ttt3@psu.edu. If you have questions or would like additional information,
please contact me at 215 868.5848 (mobile), 215 881.7532 (office), or via
e-mail at ttt3@psu.edu. Dr. Tramble T. Turner Associate Professor of English
Penn State Abington 1600 Woodland Rd. Abington, PA 19001
ACIS website
Irish Theatrical Diaspora: Manchester, April 2010
The Irish Theatrical Diaspora Conference 2010
Ireland’s Drama in British Cities,
Manchester Metropolitan University, April 15-16, 2010.
The 2010 Irish Theatrical Diaspora Conference will consider the history and context of performing Irish plays and characters on British stages, as well as the more general performance of Irish diasporic identity in an urban British context. Some of the areas that the conference will address are:
the role of festivals in performing Irish identity,
the role of British theatres in performing Irish plays,
the significance of geographical variations,
and the impact of globalisation on the position of Irish theatre in Britain
Mary Hickman, Professor of Irish Studies and Sociology, London Metropolitan University
Patrick Mason, Director, Adjunct Professor, University College Dublin, and Visiting Professor, Liverpool Hope University
Confirmed speakers:
Mike Cronin
Karen Fricker
Nicholas Grene
Patrick Lonergan
Holly Maples
Victor Merriman
Aoife Monks
Catherine Rees
Shaun Richards
This conference will examine performances of Irish identity in the urban
centres of Britain since the beginning of the 19th century. The idea of
performance is intended to include events staged in the theatres and on the streets, for example parades, musical performances and political
demonstrations.
By discussing such performances and their reception by various audiences, speakers and delegates will examine the ways that ‘Irishness’ has changed in meaning and association in Britain, pressurised by contexts such as colonialism and nationalism, modernisation and economic change in Ireland, the Troubles and the Peace Process, and many others.
In particular, the conference is concerned to examine the changing status of Irish, and Irish-descended, people in Britain. Since 1995, the diaspora has arguably become more recognised in Ireland, after President Mary Robinson urged the Irish nation to the ‘moral act’ of remembering and commemorating their sacrifices. In Britain, the Irish arguably became more visible after recognition of their ‘ethnic minority’ status in the 2001 UK census; and, more recently, interest in Britain’s oldest and largest ethnic minority has been renewed amidst a more general concern with immigration and the ways in which the case of the Irish in Britain might be seen to foreshadow and intersect with the experience of many other immigrant groups.
Delegates will be able to reflect on questions including:
What different versions of Irishness have been suggested by theatrical and other performances in Britain, and how have these been received and understood by their audiences?
In what ways have Irish cultural festivals affected perceptions?
How have notions of second-generation Irishness changed?
What significance do performances of Irishness abroad have for the Irish nation ‘at home’?
Have visible assertions and performances of Irish identity impacted on ideas of Britishness?
How have the Irish enacted and interacted with ideas of nation and identity in a British context, and how has this been affected by changes in Ireland and key events in Irish-British relations?
To what extent are the Irish in Britain an ‘acceptable’ ethnic minority?
To what extent are the Irish in Britain ‘post-nationalist’ now?
Irish Theatrical Diaspora website
BarCamp Diaspora to focus on global African talent
Thursday, July 9th, 2009
Ghanaians living in the US and around the world will be taking part in an initiative called “BarCamp Diaspora” on July 25. The event, taking place in Washington, DC, will allow the African diaspora to exchange ideas on doing business in Ghana, West Africa.
A barcamp is an open, participatory workshop event where the content is provided by the participants; the first barcamp was held in 2005, and in early years were focused on technology. The content is provided by the attendees, who can choose to speak on their own interests.
BarCamp Diaspora ’09 will be focused on “Investing our talent where it counts”. Organisers say, “BarCamp Diaspora ’09 is a FREE event for anyone who is interested in using their skills, talent, and resources to benefit Africa. It will provide a great opportunity for the African Diaspora to network and collaborate on projects.”
They list several possible breakout session ideas:
Sustaining African NGO’s in the Diaspora
Opportunities in open source
Mobile payments; why is Africa leading the world
African outsourcing; opportunities and risks
African communications infrastructure; growth, trend, opportunities
African women and technology
African ingenuity; building, making and selling African products
ICT Solutions for affordable health care in Ghana
Renewable resources, green technology, biofuels and solar energy
Social media: Where are the Ghanaian or West African bloggers?
BarCamp Diaspora grows out of last year’s BarCamp Ghana ’08, which was held in Accra to exchange ideas on entrepreneurship, innovation and development for the developing nation.
The idea has interesting potential for Ireland – while there have been several diaspora conferences in recent years, their formal organisational structure has limited audience participation. An Irish diaspora barcamp could be an energising way of channeling the power of the grassroots in the world-wide Irish community.
BarCampDiaspora ’09
Australasian Irish Studies Conference: Massey University, NZ; 9-12 July 2009
Wednesday, July 1st, 2009
Ireland and the Irish Antipodes: One World or Worlds Apart?
The Irish Studies Associaton of Australian and New Zealand will host its conference from the 9th to 12th of July at Massey University, Wellington, New Zealand.
Organisers say:
Australia and New Zealand were essentially secondary destinations for the post-1800 waves of Irish leaving to make new lives overseas, accounting for no more than 10 per cent in most decades. Yet the two countries have regularly been identified by scholars as appropriate ‘laboratories’ for studying the nature and impacts of Irish migration over time. This conference seeks to review research undertaken both at the points of origin and destination and to pose new questions. Were the Irish communities that took root in the Antipodes essentially transplanted fragments of the homeland? How did they evolve, and to what extent was their evolution influenced by developments at home? Were there noticeable differences between the Australian and New Zealand Irish experiences, and if so how may these best be explained? What is the relationship today between Ireland and its most far-flung diasporic communities?
With seven keynote speakers providing contextual signposts, the topics to be addressed over three days will be diverse. Historical themes range from aspects of early convict transportation to Australia, through Irish-Maori relations in New Zealand, to late twentieth century economic interactions. Cultural life will also be a focus, Irish literature, theatre and music – both traditional and contemporary – being scheduled for discussion. A particular consideration will be how the Antipodean Irish are being depicted in historical reconstructions and displays. Necessarily, many of the contributions will reflect collective experiences, but provision has also been made for papers on those of individuals and families. The utility of oral history for recording the experiences of more recent arrivals will also be assessed.
See the conference website.
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