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The Continuing Triumph of Neoconservatism
It has become very fashionable to believe that the neocons are on the run, and their hold over American politics has finally come to an end. Nothing could be further from the truth. Although Iraq isn't going well, and the torture issue is proving to be a bit of an embarrassment for certain Washington elites, the power of the neocons continues pretty much unabated. They are keeping a low profile until it is clear that oil prices will stay low enough for Bush to be reelected, but their ultimate plans for the Middle East and the world remain in place, and are quietly advancing. Americans who think that some fairy godmother - either the CIA, 'patriotic' U. S. generals, or the U. S. Congress - is going to rescue them are dreaming in technicolor. All kinds of terrible legal things are supposed to be in the works for Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, and all the infamous neocons from Wolfowitz on down. Just who exactly will be bringing all these people to justice?
the Republican-controlled Justice Department?;
The Republican-controlled House of Representatives?;
the Republican-controlled Senate?;
the Republican-controlled court system?;
the Republican-controlled (and completely corrupted) Supreme Court?;
the Republican-controlled Executive Branch?;
the Republican-contolled media?; or maybe
the Christian Zionist cult hostage President?
This isn't your father's Republican Party, the one that might have had enough integrity and respect for the Constitution to can Nixon. These guys are loyal to only one thing: their continued hold on power. The only thing that will save the United States from the neocons and the further wars and domestic terrors that will be imposed by them is the ballot box in November. But what's going to happen there?:
Bush's core group of knuckle-dragging knucklehead Christian Zionist crazies remains completely intact (these people actually like the fact that the United States is torturing people, especially if it involves the breach of international law);
the Democrats have a very weak candidate;
another 'terrorist' attack would turn Bush into a hero overnight, and make Americans rally around the President for protection;
Rove no doubt has an 'October Surprise' up his sleeve (the capture of OBL?);
the crooked electronic voting machines are facing a bit of a battle, but in a very close election enough of them will be in place in November for the executives at Diebold and other companies to switch enough votes to make the difference;
incredibly, brother Jeb is still (!!!) jobbing the voting lists in Florida to systematically disenfranchise black people (is it still 1955 in Florida?), and using crooked voting machines; and
when all else fails, Bush always has the crooked Supreme Court in his pocket.
The United States is in extreme danger, perhaps the greatest danger it has ever faced, and not only is it unrealistic to count the neocons out, it is also very dangerous. Here, from Bob Dreyfuss, are their plans for Saudi Arabia (my emphasis):
"Before the war in Iraq, a former ambassador to Saudi Arabia, James Akins, told me that by invading Iraq the Bush administration would accelerate the spread of Al Qaeda-style movements in Saudi Arabia, and it's happening. The country is said to be in a state of incipient civil war, and the royal family is apparently unable to stem the spread of the bin Ladenite poison. Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the United States has called on the kingdom to conduct an all-out war against the terrorists, but it could be too little, too late. Make no mistake, however: if Saudi Arabia falls to radicals, U.S. forces will occupy that country's oil fields faster than you can say 'imperialism.' And if that happens, it will be Phase 2 of the neocons' expanded plans for the Middle East: first topple Saddam and 'flatten Iraq,' as another former ambassador to Saudi Arabia described the essence of the neocon Iraq strategy, and then move on to Saudi Arabia.
'I've stopped warning that bin Laden might take over Saudi Arabia,' Akins told me last year. 'I think that's exactly what they want.' And then American forces would move in. No U.S. government could tolerate the collapse of Saudi Arabia. Oil experts are already pointing out that sources of oil outside Saudi Arabia and Iraq are rapidly being drained, meaning that those two countries are basically the only two sources of expanded future supply. Period."
Sometime towards the end of the second Bush term I can see the United States engaged in World War III (known to future historians as the Greater Israel War) in the Middle East with Iraq-style occupations (or worse) in Syria, Iran and Saudi Arabia (not to mention Cuba, Venezuela, and North Korea). While people fantasize about various bad things that might happen to the neocons, Israel continues to steal land to build more illegal settlements, the Israeli-American apartheid wall continues to go up, Saudi Arabia, Syria and Iran are under imminent threat of attack (Dreyfuss goes on to point out in the posting I cited above that Iraq's aggressive nuclear posturing is based on the fact it knows it will soon have to defend itself), and the 'strategy of terror' continues against Americans. The neocon plans are advancing nicely, and nothing can stop them.
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Vans Launches ‘Musicians Wanted’ Global Music Competition!
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Vans ‘Musicians Wanted’ Global Music Competition aims to spotlight undiscovered artists and award the chance to share the stage with celebrated musician Anderson .Paak!
Digital Music Competition is Open to Artists of All Genres Globally. Finalists Will Earn Vans Product, Fender Gear, Spotify Playlisting and More!
Submit Original Music Now at Vans.eu/MusiciansWanted.
Vans, the original action sports brand and global icon for creative self-expression is proud to launch the Vans Musicians Wanted competition globally for the first time since its inception in 2015. Vans Musicians Wanted is the brand’s global music program that aims to provide a platform for musicians who are just starting out. The contest series will celebrate fresh, new and “Off The Wall” talent from all genres. For its 2020 global debut, each region around the world will provide undiscovered artists the chance to gain international exposure and the opportunity to share the stage with Grammy award-winning artist, Anderson .Paak. Additional prizes include Vans product, Fender gear, global music distribution, Spotify and Apple Music playlisting and more!
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Originally created by Vans’ Asia-Pacific region in 2015, the Vans Musicians Wanted competition began as a program to directly enable local, undiscovered musicians to submit their original music and be discovered on a national scale. With more than 7,000 artists that have entered the program since its inception, Vans is proud to launch the program globally to welcome artists from the United States, Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, Europe, South Africa and Asia-Pacific regions for a chance to share their original music with the world. Artists can submit their original music now through October 11 on Vans.eu/MusiciansWanted.
Vans evolves the 2020 global platform into competition series that is truly digital and open to all musicians and genres of music. The brand continues to curate and build experiences that are optimized for digital; allowing promising talent anywhere the opportunity to participate through digital submission of music and virtual concerts on a global scale.
Featuring special guest judges as part of the selection process, Vans Musicians Wanted welcomes J.I.D and Bohan Phoenix, artists featured in the Vans latest brand campaign, ‘THIS IS OFF THE WALL’, European based singer-songwriter Nilüfer Yanya, and Grammy award-winning artist, Anderson .Paak to review the top-5 artists from each region. Three artists will be chosen to perform at the Vans Musicians Wanted Virtual Concert, to be held this December. One grand prize winner will be selected to receive Vans product, Fender Gear, global music distribution, Spotify and Apple Music playlisting and the opportunity to share the stage with Anderson .Paak as the opening act in 2021.
Vans’ Musicians Wanted competition is an inclusive global platform that enables creative self-expression through music and provides a direct path for undiscovered artists to step into the limelight and gain global exposure. To enter your original music now and read official contest rules, please visit Vans.eu/MusiciansWanted.
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Inside there are heated front seats, black leather on all plus a seven-inch infotainment screen that’s enabled with Bluetooth, DAB radio, an integrated reversing camera and both Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. Plus, mechanically, it has Mitsubishi’s Super-Select 4WD system, which changes at speeds of up to 62mph, and has a payload of a tonne and can tow 3,500kg.
The Shogun Sport is a more utilitarian option, with a load bed measuring a metre wide between the rear arches and a touch shy of two-metres deep, meaning that there is room for a Euro pallet back there. Total load space comes in at 1,488 litres, plus it is an easily accessible hold, with a 605kg payload and a 3.1-tonne braked towing capacity. It also has a 4WD system with a low ‘box, different terrain settings, front and rear lockable diffs and Hill Descent Control.
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If You’re Worried About Your Health, This Test Is the Most Important One to Get
Karen Asp
You might think that plaque is something you only have to worry about on your teeth. But plaque, the type that builds up in your arteries and heart, can be a major health threat, even a killer. The good news? Eating more plant-based foods and giving up meat and dairy (along with junk food like chips and heart-clogging oils) can not only halt the build-up of plaque but prevent it and even reverse its presence, as the body on a whole food plant-based low-oil diet appears to reabsorb plaque and achieve the amazing feat of healing itself.
Plaque (think of it as little pebbles of hardened cholesterol that lodge into the walls of your arteries, blocking blood flow like rocks in a stream) is harmful, even deadly, causing blockages, high blood pressure, heart attacks, and strokes (when oxygen can't get to the brain). One of the biggest culprits in the creation of plaque in the body is the standard American diet. This high-fat diet, which is focused on animal products and loaded with unhealthy fat, sugar, and sodium, can cause your system to become overwhelmed, resulting in deposits of plaque, which is one reason heart disease has long been the leading killer of Americans, causing 655,000 deaths a year.
The CDC states "As plaque builds up in the arteries of a person with heart disease, the inside of the arteries begins to narrow, which lessens or blocks the flow of blood. Plaque can also rupture (break open). When it does, a blood clot can form on the plaque, blocking the flow of blood."
Yet getting rid of that plaque in your heart isn’t like getting rid of the plaque on your teeth. You can't just scrape it away at an annual cleaning appointment. Fortunately, adopting a plant-based diet–along with other lifestyle habits such as daily exercise, and learning to manage stress–can prevent plaque from taking you or your ticker down.
What is plaque and how can you tell if you have it in your arteries?
You have probably heard a lot about the importance of cholesterol, especially LDL the so-called "bad" cholesterol, and its effects on your heart health. Good cholesterol, or HDL, is driven up by exercise and you can think of it as mobilizing fat for energy–so while both HDL and LDL get measured in a cholesterol blood test, only LDL is likely to cause you adverse health effects, research shows. Your body produces cholesterol for numerous functions, including making hormones, but it naturally creates all the cholesterol you need. Yet when you eat animal products, including poultry and fish, eggs, and dairy, you're adding cholesterol in your food, and only a small amount gets absorbed by the body, sp the excess can build up and set you up for trouble in the form of plaque.
Cholesterol build-up starts early, even in your teens, studies show
Plaque is not just an "old person's problem" as you may think. Surprisingly, studies have shown that the early stages of cholesterol build-up can start in childhood and teen years, depending on diet and exercise habits. “Diet and lifestyle have a dramatic impact on how quickly plaque builds up and whether it will ever cause you any problems,” says cardiologist Nicole Harkin, M.D., founder of Whole Heart Cardiology in San Francisco. She points to eating a diet high in saturated fat as the biggest cholesterol culprit for Americans. While saturated fat is found mainly in animal foods like meat and dairy, you’ll also find it in a few plant foods like coconut oil. So if heart disease runs in your family you need to skip tropical oils.
The cholesterol that enters your body gets deposited in the blood vessel walls, creating plaques or blockages, causing your heart to have to work harder to pump blood to the organs, brain, and outer extremities. This sets off an inflammatory cascade of events in the body,” Harkin says. Over time, those plaques can harden, essentially becoming calcified, and narrow your arteries. As your blockages build-up, you may notice symptoms like poor circulation, inflammation, poor night vision or loss of contrast eyesight, loss of sexual function, or lightheadedness, according to cardiologists such as Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn, a proponent of a whole food plant-based diet to reverse heart disease.
As a result, you’ll then have an increased risk of heart attacks and strokes. “Inflammation and cholesterol are key drivers of these conditions,” Harkin says. Other risk factors include high blood pressure, smoking, obesity, and lack of physical activity. Genetic conditions like inherited cholesterol problems can also put you at risk for heart disease.
How plaque in your heart is measured: Get the inexpensive Calcium Score test
If you’re determined to be of borderline or immediate risk for a heart problem your doctor may order a coronary artery calcium score. The test, which generally costs about $100 (covered by most insurance carriers), is a type of CT scan that measures calcified plaque in your heart’s arteries. Those calcifications appear as bright white dots on the scan, allowing the amount of calcium in the arteries of your heart to be measured or quantified, Harkin says.
How much calcium you have can then be compared to an “average” person your age and gender, which will give you a better idea of your overall risk of a heart attack. “Studies have shown that the higher the calcium score, the higher your risk of a heart event,” Harkin says. If your score is high–normal is zero–your doctor will work with you to determine if you might benefit from certain medications like a statin or intensification of lifestyle changes, like switching to a whole-food, plant-based diet.
But should you get a scan if you’re healthy and not outwardly at risk? While there isn’t a guideline as there is for colonoscopies and mammograms, which are recommended over the age of 50 and 40, respectively, some medical experts say yes. “I recommend this for everybody, starting at age 45,” says Joel Kahn, M.D., founder of the Kahn Center for Cardiac Longevity in Bingham Farms, Mich., and author of Lipoprotein(a), The Heart’s Quiet Killer. If your score is normal (aka zero), he recommends screening again in five to 10 years to make sure the disease hasn’t started. But some people are unlucky in genetics, and their body creates cholesterol no matter how healthy they eat or how active they are. The book's description states: "An estimated one in five people have elevated levels of a type of cholesterol called lipoprotein(a) which can increase the risk for cardiovascular disease, including blocked arteries, blood clots, and stroke," according to the book. "Dr. Kahn explains how this condition is a factor of genetics rather than poor lifestyle choices, pinpoints who needs to have their levels checked, and which types of tests to request."
How to manage–and prevent–the buildup of plaque in your arteries and heart
Although studies have shown blockages never truly or completely disappear, you can reduce your risk of them, even stabilize what plaque you do have, so it hopefully won’t cause issues. Medications such as statins are one strategy, but in terms of lifestyle changes, dietary change is the number one way to stabilize–and help prevent–this dangerous plaque buildup. “Randomized controlled trials have shown that even patients who have had prior heart attacks can lower their risk of recurrent events with improvements in their diet,” says Harkin, adding, though, that even the perfect plant-based diet is not a magic cure-all if you have a high genetic risk. But of course, eating more plants comes with numerous other benefits.
For starters, ditch foods that will cause inflammation in your body and cause plaque to form in your arteries, Harkin says. Because animal foods such a beef, pork, poultry, and dairy are loaded with saturated fat, eliminating them is key. You should also avoid items like packaged and processed foods, highly refined grains added sugars, and processed meat.
Once you’ve moved the animal based, high-fat foods off your plate and out of your cabinets, you have more room for whole plant foods, and the more you can eat, the better. These foods, after all, lower risk of heart disease through numerous mechanisms, the key one being fiber. “Fiber helps lower cholesterol, which is one of the main drivers of heart blockages,” Harkin says.
Plus, diets that are either plant-based or predominantly plant foods (vegetables, fruit, whole grains, nuts, seeds, and legumes) can lower blood pressure, decrease weight, and lower inflammation in the body, all of which lower the risk of heart attack and stroke. But how close to 100 percent do you have to come to eating plant-based? “While I advise a 100 percent whole-food, plant-based diet, I accept progress of any kind,” Kahn says.
A diet of whole plant foods can help reverse heart disease, but there are some foods that stand out, Kahn says. Take, for instance, garlic, which has been shown to lower cholesterol and blood pressure. In fact, Kahn points to a study in The Journal of Nutrition that found that individuals taking aged garlic extract for one year had reduced areas of plaque in their heart’s arteries. Pomegranate seeds and pomegranate juice may also help improve HDL, the type that is also referred to as “good” cholesterol because it essentially carts away the excess to be used for energy in all those long runs, walks and bike rides you commit to doing.
Vitamin supplements may also help, according to Kahn, who recommends D3 plus K2 in almost all of his patients not only for heart health but also for bone health. He also recommends not smoking (or quitting smoking if you do still smoke), getting regular exercise (follow guidelines of at least 150 minutes of moderate-intensity or 75 minutes of high-intensity or a combination of the two every week), logging adequate sleep, and managing stress.
Bottom line? Eat more whole-food plant-based, follow the additional lifestyle habits of being active and lowering stress, and you might just be able to say... Plaque off!
Source: If You’re Worried About Your Health, This Test Is the Most Important One to Get
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These last two weeks we had four students from Oklahoma Christian University who came with Dr. Charles Rix to teach Introduction to the Hebrew Bible. They jumped excitedly to the opportunity to share their story with us. Elijah Weaver wrote on behalf of them. Read and be blessed.
The road that leads to African Christian College begins on a newly paved street leading east from Matsapha. Shortly morphing into a bumpy dirt road, it continues forth, running parallel to the old airport, until it winds sharply to the left, bringing into view the yet hidden campus of African Christian College. Like the country of Swaziland, sitting stealthily tucked within the northeast corner of South Africa, so sits the college, seemingly inconspicuous off the winding road; but once seen, it is truly beautiful, the yellowish buildings with their dark red roofs shining bright under the African sky, dispersedly set in front of an orchard of macadamia trees, spread far and wide over the landscape, 14,000 trees in all.
Finally pulling into the campus on Sunday afternoon after a day and a half of travel, we were eager to begin our time of learning and fellowship with the students at ACC. The four of us students, Elijah, Ben, Joshua and Turner, were accompanying our professor, Charles Rix, to aid him in teaching Intro to Hebrew Bible during a two-week intensive
Ben, Elijah, and Turner with the group they were working with
course. All four of us were Biblical Studies majors, two of us having recently graduated, and the other two with a year to go, making us all the more eager not only to help teach, but also to learn the Hebrew Bible from the Africana perspective, hopefully shedding new light onto something we all held so dearly.
Over the course of two weeks, we spent every weekday morning in the classroom with the students, listening to lectures and splitting up into small cohorts, exploring the material together, as we helped guide the students through the Hebrew Bible, specifically focusing on their own particular extrapolation of the text based on their cultural contexts. Amidst all of our mornings in the classroom and our many afternoon adventures into the city and beyond, there were several aspects about our stay that especially stuck out to us, encouraging us in different ways and making our stay at African Christian College a truly unforgettable time.
First and foremost, we were all struck by the vibrant and vivacious worship, which we experienced almost immediately upon arrival Sunday evening, and which continued throughout our stay, everyday in chapel and on Sunday morning and Wednesday evening. Singing songs in the students’ heart languages, the cacophony of voices were passionate and energetic, providing a feeling in worship that it is hard to match elsewhere. The worship seems to act as this consistent marker of communal identity, wherein whatever may happen on a day-to-day basis, there is always a time of worship, providing a sense of calling and focus to the students, as they lift their voices in worship to God with sincerity and honesty.
Alongside our awe about the worship we experienced with the students, all four of us were equally impressed and intrigued with the students’ ubiquitous intentionality and desire to learn. Unlike what we have experienced often in the States, with students taking for granted the education they are pursuing, the students at ACC all recognize the privilege they have in studying, and it is more than evident in their excitement and intensity of attention they give to the material we were learning about in class. Working in cohorts, there was often a time when one student would be speaking and sharing their thoughts, in which every other student would give their undivided attention to the one sharing, with a genuine desire to understand what was being shared. It was such a joy for all of us to experience these students’ hunger for knowledge and insight, reminding us to not take for granted our own education in the States.
Ben at work with his group
Finally, and perhaps most importantly, it was the community at ACC that was most striking to us. As a completely residential campus, including even the President and some of the professors, everyone lives in close quarters, constantly sharing life together, helping to raise each others’ children, eating meals in fellowship, working and studying in groups, all of which made our stay at ACC feel like something reminiscent of Acts 2:42-44. Alongside
the community cafeteria and library, there are community gardens throughout the campus, just expounding upon the already felt experience of communal living. There are shared spaces of working and shared spaces of playing, especially for the children. Even in the language the students would use, referring to everyone as Brother and Sister so and so, there was a constancy of warmth and invitation on campus.
As we prepare to leave this afternoon (yesterday), I can speak for all of us, that we feel exceedingly grateful for the time we have been able to spend with the community at ACC. We feel an invigoration of our desire to worship with a deeper passion and longing. We feel rejuvenated and excited to return home and continue forth in our pursuits of our own education, having been encouraged by the students’ love for their education at ACC. And we feel a contagious inclination to pursue a more vibrant community within our places of study and work at home. We will be forever grateful for the time we spent at ACC. Perhaps we will return one day. But even if the opportunity never arises, we have made relationships that will no doubt last a lifetime. The Spirit of God is alive and well at ACC, and we are so thankful to have experienced it.
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First Gameplay Details from AR-Powered Harry Potter: Wizards Unite Arrive
by Brent Dirks
Originally announced almost 18 months ago, we’re finally getting our first look at Niantic’s upcoming AR game Harry Potter: Wizards Unite.
The developer’s follow-up to its hugely popular Pokémon Go, the game is looking to be worth the wait.
Instead of trying to re-invent the gameplay, Niantic has seemingly improved the experience and added tons of fun touches for fans of the Harry Potter series.
Players will start as a new recruit for the Statute of Secrecy Task Force who will need to investigate and contain a calamity that has hit the wizarding world. Witches and wizards will need to return special Foundables to their proper place and away from the prying eyes of muggles.
While exploring the world, there will be a number of different location to find including Inns and Portkeys. The portrays will unlock an AR look into iconic locations.
There will also be real-time multiplayer battles against foes. And since this is a Harry Potter game, some of the gameplay footage suggests gamers will be seeing some familiar faces while playing.
Harry Potter: Wizards Unite will land on the App Store sometime in 2019. You can find out more about the game on its official site.
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BLEED SOMEONE DRY 'Mephistophelian' Official Lyric Video Is out Today!
Created: 27 July 2020 | Written by Edvardsen | Hits: 290
Bleed Someone Dry are glad to unleash their new lyric video for the track 'Mephistophelian', tacken from their album “Unorthodox” out via Wormholedeath / The Orchard.
About 'Mephistophelian':
"The new single 'Mephistophelian' from our latest album Unorthodox deals with the profound sense of inadequacy in a role that the human being unceasingly seeks to find a place in the world. The individual is always committed to giving a rational sense to its existence, to trying to define its decisions and choices in a general context, in a world in which the individual will inevitably have to interact with."
"All these expectations and choices have distressing repercussions on the anxiety developed by the individual that, when put into perspective, will result in a deeper understanding that the mistakes made will no longer give the individual a clear distinction of what is right and what is wrong. The result is a limbo in which you are ultimately suspended between good and evil."
Bleed Someone Dry - Mephistophelian [Official Lyric Video]:
Lyric Video by Ruben Spizzichino
01. Vexation
02. Deceiver
03. Unorthodox
04. The Worst Has Yet to Come
05. Plague of Broken Dreams
06. All That We'll Never Have
07. The Modern Dissident Movement
08. Agoraphobia
09. Elysium
10. Mephistophelian
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Listen to the full album here: Spotify, YouTube Music.
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Alessio Bruni - Vocals
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Bleed Someone Dry began their legacy in 2007 releasing the debut album “The World is Falling in Tragedy" through UK's indie label UK Division.
In May 2012 BSD found their dimension with the current line-up, delivering a new style of core, through a heavy and distorted sound, matched with distressful and harsh vocals, influenced by contemporary Mathcore and Deathcore sounds.
During September 2012 BSD signed a deal with Kreative Klan to release the album "Subjects". In Early 2014 BSD started a strong and productive collaboration with producer Christian Donaldson, also known for being Cryptopsy’s guitarist and producer of many killer bands such as The Agonist, Despised Icon and Beyond Creation.
Thanks to the new single "It's a Secret", the album “Subjects” was reissued by WormHoleDeath, enabling BSD to be booked for a Russian tour in May 2014 supporting the U.S. band I Declare War. BSD then started a collaboration with KCKS Management & Promotion to boost live activities; surely to remember are supporting shows for The Algorithm, Upon a Burning Body, Xibalba, Uneven Structure, The Secret and participation in festivals such Exit Festival and Dissonance Festival.
In 2015 BSD released their third album “Post Mortem | Veritas” through Fire Was Born Records and promoted by PR Lodge. The album enriches the already strong collaboration between the band, Donaldson and The Grid Europe (formerly known as MathLab Recording Studio).
The album also includes two international guest such as Cj McMahon of Thy Art is Murder & Luca T. Mai of Zu and Mombu. Most recently the band has taken part in many European festivals like Revolution Festival and shows alongside major acts like Gojira, Cryptopsy, Infected Rain, Aversions Crown and Fit For An Autopsy.
The band is currently finalizing the recordings of their fourth album called “Unorthodox”, a more modern and progressive approach to songwriting, with influences ranging from Djent to Progressive-Deathcore – mixed and mastered yet again by Chris Donaldson.
The World Is Falling in Tragedy - 2007
Subjects - 2012
Post Mortem | Veritas - 2015
Unorthodox - 2019
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Reviews: Congregations 2012 Issue 2
Posted on June 15, 2012 by Alban
Christianity After Religion: The End of Church and the Birth of a New Spiritual Awakening
Diana Butler Bass
HarperOne, 2012.
In this fine volume, Diana Butler Bass begins with sobering news, alerting us to her belief that the end of religion and the end of the church, at least as we have known it, is at hand. The book begins by describing the situation as it now exists for religious communities in general and traditional, churched based communities in particular. Using a variety of traditional and contemporary appraisals, Butler Bass documents that across a wide theological and denominational spectrum Christianity “is struggling in America.” (12) People simply don’t attend church as they once did. Fewer individuals think of their religious identity in terms of a denominational identity. Denominationally-related traditions and churches, left and right of center, are struggling for support. A variety of polls suggest that the number of people who claim no religious affiliation has doubled to fifteen percent in the last five years. Those who do gravitate toward religious reflection often consider themselves believers but not belongers, or perhaps claim to be spiritual but not religious. Butler Bass concludes that amid “increasing religious diversity, American beliefs about God, traditional doctrines, and sacred texts are open to influences from a wider range of sources, experiences, relationships, and faith traditions.” (51) These ecclesiastical transitions lead her to suggest that western societies appear to be moving toward the development of a genuinely “multireligious identity” as individuals and families blend spiritual traditions. Interfaith and multiracial marriages are part of that trend as is the tendency for many persons to link spiritual practices from various faith communities. All this leads Butler Bass to assert that many older forms of the church are “unsustainable and are failing,” (71) a reality that contributes to the decline of the “positive image of religion” in the American public square. (93) Indeed, the book gives extensive attention to redefining religion, affirming religio in more ancient forms that reflect “a warm, reverberating and sustained affirmation of a personal relation to [a] transcendent God.” (98) This is the form of spiritual experience that contrasts with the traditional western approach to religion that is fast disappearing. And the sooner the better, Butler Bass believes.
After outlining the current state of American institutional religion, Butler Bass contends that the news is not all bad. She joins such writers as Harvey Cox (The Future of Faith) and Parker Palmer (Healing the Heart of Democracy) in insisting that a new spiritual awakening lies ahead. Institutional religion is declining, but a renewed spirituality grounded in religious experience is evident throughout the society. She notes that increasingly “in the minds of many, dogma deserves to die.”(112) This does not mean that the role of belief will disappear in religious communities, however. As religion turns to spirituality, matters of belief are transformed “from what to how.”(113)
Throughout the book, Butler Bass links the “how” questions to the power and significance of “belief as experience.” (116). This kind of belief is based less on cognitive speculation or assent to certain systematic dogmas than on an encounter with the divine and a pledge of faithful action. In shaping her thesis, Butler Bass provides an excellent summary of certain classic approaches to the nature of religious experience as evident in the work of Frederick Schleiermacher, William James, Teresa of Avila, John Calvin, Jonathan Edwards, and Rene Descartes. These individuals represent theological and philosophical analyses of what James called, classically, the “varieties of religious experience.” Concern for such experiences is evident in the fact that at least fifty percent of the American populace claims to have had some sort of mystical encounter. Thus she believes that many Americans appear to be “returning to the idea of faith as an encounter with God.” (120) Thus the time is ripe to revisit the religion of Jesus that began, not with concern for belief but with a community born of “the inner life, the heart.” (205) This “new vision” involves “relational community, intentional practice, and experiential belief, the sign of a pending spiritual awakening.”
Butler Bass then turns to the possibility that current transitions in the nature and meaning of faith and practice suggest the start of a new awakening. Again, she offers a helpful synopsis of the history of religious awakenings in America from the First Great Awakening to what she believes to be a Fourth Great Awakening. In this she is greatly influenced by historian William McLoughlin’s important analysis, Revivals, Awakenings and Reform,published in 1978. That long ago, McLoughlin believed that America was on the edge of a Fourth Awakening, evident, Butler Bass contends, in a more experienced-based religion, shaped by pluralism, holistic faith, and communal response. She explores the nature of such an awakening, now enhanced by technology and pluralism in ways that McLoughlin never anticipated. She also documents significance resistance to such an awakening, evident in a renewed nativism, often present in certain religious communities that resist the loss of a “Christian America,” Protestant privilege, and what seems the loss of traditional faith. They struggle against responding to transitions in religious life and Butler Bass’ thesis by reasserting the viability of traditional orthodoxy. For Butler Bass, however, the dye is already cast. A new awakening is at hand, “old things have passed away; all things are becoming new.” One can only hope.
Bill J. Leonard, Wake Forest University
Columbia Records, 2012
“Why is there a hole in my bucket?”
That’s Bruce Springsteen, paraphrasing the title of a song from Hank Williams, “My Bucket’s Got a Hole In It,” at the South by Southwest music festival this past March 2012. In his keynote speech at that festival, Springsteen traced his musical lineage pointing out his reliance on country music in songwriting, particularly, Hank Williams’ song.
But there is a limit to country music, says Springsteen. It is rarely politically angry and politically critical. Its fatalism, says Springsteen, has a toxic element. Country does not answer the question “why does my bucket have a hole in it?’ Country music doesn’t respond to why lives are broken, and how lives are torn and intricately connected to political and economic systems.
But Springsteen and the E Street Band have, over the decades, taken on the “why” with guitars, drums, horns, and strings in full throttle.
This leads us to Wrecking Ball, Springsteen’s 17th studio album. Our country has a hole in it and it’s from a wrecking ball. On the album, Springsteen addresses the hole in our country, the hole caused by the wrecking ball known as the financial crisis, the hole that swallowed up so many of us.
On the album, Springsteen dances between hope and despair, anger and gratitude as he leads the listener through the economic journey, the story, of the current American reality. Wrecking Ball takes on the question of “why,” and it passionately, through image and narrative, names those who wrecked this economy and those who now suffer from the reckless, irresponsible corporate behavior. Not only does Springsteen take on the “why,” he uses image and narrative to bring the “why” alive.
Through the thirteen songs, Springsteen distinctively sings of the peaks and valleys of life, metaphorically lifting up the widening gap between the haves and have nots in American society. The weaving together of image and narrative, narrative and image is distinctly Springsteen and it is nearly impossible for this listener to hear a song on Wrecking Ball and not be taken in by the spectrum of emotions Springsteen elicits.
“We Take Care of Our Own” questions our culture’s conscience—do we really take care of our own? “Death to My Hometown” is a wrenching, angry, burning- from-the-gut Celtic-punk declaration that a hometown can be destroyed in ways beyond war-induced bloodshed and bombs dropping. “Rocky Ground” is a Gospelinfused promise that a new day is coming.
Through the unnamed characters and multi-dimensional images throughoutWrecking Ball, the listener becomes part of the story. The listener’s story and the characters and images who speak to a national narrative become connected, woven together, responsible to each so we are now, together, part of the answering of the question “why?’ Why does our bucket have so many damn holes in it? Why is life so broken and torn?
Why are so many in economic distress when, as Springsteen sings in “Shackled and Drawn”: “Gambling man rolls the dice, working man pays the bills/It’s still fat and easy up on bankers hill/Up on bankers hill the party’s going strong/Down here below we’re shackled and drawn.”
The power of weaving together image and narrative is this: as Springsteen brings the modern situation to life, his songs carry us to that place of aliveness, it animates us, and it reminds us what it means to live. It calls us to action, to create change, to jump on board the train bound for a land of hopes and dreams.
The asking of “why” in Springsteen’s methodology and creative songwriting is relevant to church life, particularly in the creation of liturgy. At Church of the Pilgrims, where I am Minister for Spiritual Formation, we pattern ourselves in the same songwriting methodology when we plan and create liturgy. We take a biblical image, we take the biblical story, and we take the story of our lives and the story of the planet. We weave all of it together in the vast hope we come alive together on Sunday mornings as one body.
Liturgy, the work of the people, isn’t created out of an empty vortex but, like Springsteen’s songs, takes into account the tradition, influential ancestors of the craft, Biblical narratives which expose the human condition, and a theology that emanates, as does Wrecking Ball, out of our sweat, tears, the corner store, and local bar. It’s the intersection of the personal and the political, the stories about exclusion-inclusion politics. This is how people live, according to Springsteen. Lives cross over; people get tangled up, and the answer to “why does my bucket have holes in it” gets lost in the mess. To Springsteen, our lives are all connected, and that connection is hard to make in a modern, post-industrialized world.
Liturgy and Wrecking Ball demand human connections. This is the purpose of both. This is how liturgy speaks truth to power, deconstructs the “why” and imagines a world-made-new. Liturgy, like Wrecking Ball, is a map; guiding people through the complicated lives we are living especially when our backs are smashed up against the wall. Springsteen’s music is liturgy. It’s liturgy for the masses. As an album, Wrecking Ball seeks to heal a wound the size of our national culture. After all, a wrecking ball creates holes, it doesn’t fully demolish, it creates rubble where life can begin again. If a liturgy would be created for the size of our national wound, look no further than this album. Wrecking Ball is liturgy for society’s brokenness and declaration to the powers-that-be that we are alive.
Ashley Goff, Church of the Pilgrims, Washington, D.C.
Congregations Magazine, 2012-06-15
2012 Issue 2, Number 2
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The most environmentally friendly car in the world Bashny.Net
Non-profit organization U.S. American Council for an energy-efficient economy (American Council for an Energy Efficient Economy, ACEEE) recently published its annual list of the greenest cars. Despite the fact that the rating is called "the green ten", the number of cars in it anymore. Obviously, this is due to the presence of different manufacturers models, very similar minimal impact on the environment.
First place in the 2013 ranking confidently took the hybrid Toyota Prius C, edging out the second place Honda Fit EV. How could it happen that burning gasoline hybrid proved to be more "green" than completely devoid of any emissions the electric car? It's all about the arithmetic.
Each position in the ranking is justified "green" points, which are calculated according to a formula. It takes into account the ACEEE as I could and greenhouse gases emitted by vehicles and companies that produce electricity to charge the batteries of electric vehicles.
In addition, when determining the position in the ranking takes into account the energy required for the production of vehicles and the environmental impact of disposal at end-of-life vehicle and its components. Did not remain without attention and performance efficiency.
As a result of these calculations in the first place with 58-Ju points out a subcompact hybrid hatchback Toyota Prius C with an engine capacity of 1.5 liters. Its energy efficiency is 53 miles mileage per gallon of gasoline (4,44 l/100 km).
All-electric Honda Fit EV scored one point less, 57. No fuel, he consumes, and not able to drive any miles per gallon, liter or ton of gasoline. Instead of litres of hydrocarbon fuel an electric car uses kilowatt-hours of electricity. On one kilowatt-hour Fit EV is able to run the 3.9 miles (6,28 km) in the city and 3.1 (4,99 km) on the highway. A fully charged battery it enough for the mileage to 80 miles (128,75 km).
Places from third to fifth ranked cars scored the same number of points — 55. For Toyota Prius with a 1.8 liter motor and rechargeable Toyota Prius Plag-in Hybrid should hybrid Honda Civic. To determine the distribution of positions was the performance efficiency.
Next are hybrid cars Honda Insight (54 points) and Volkswagen Jetta (53 points). Despite the difference in assessment, the product of the German automotive industry more economical.
The following two positions on a unique rating a couple of cars with exclusively by internal combustion engines. They were Mercedes-Benz Smart ForTwo and Scion IQ. Typing the same number of points as the Jetta, these miniature cars were inferior to her in terms of fuel consumption.
Electric Ford Focus Electric and the hybrid Toyota Prius V took 10th and 11th positions with the same number of points – 52. Completes the rating of a tandem hybrid cars Ford Fusion/Ford C-Max, owners of the largest internal combustion engine volume of 2.0 liters. They score 51 points.
As you can see, the overall rating may be called the Board of honor of the Japanese automobile industry, and the unconditional leader in hybrids, Toyota Prius.
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'Faith is not a building,' B.C. health officials say after weekend church gathering
Andrew Weichel Producer, CTVNewsVancouver.ca
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Published Monday, November 30, 2020 7:35PM PST
Langley RCMP received a complaint from the public about a gathering at Riverside Calvary Chapel in North Langley Sunday morning. (CTV)
VANCOUVER -- The "vast majority" of faith leaders in B.C. are co-operating with the government's efforts to limit the spread of COVID-19, health officials said after a weekend that saw one church fined for holding an in-person service.
Authorities said they received a public complaint about a gathering at Riverside Calvary Chapel in North Langley on Sunday morning. Cpl. Holly Largy said officers asked congregants to leave, but they refused.
"We can't remove people," Largy told CTV News on Sunday. "We gave them the opportunity to disperse. They refused, so they were issued a violation ticket."
At her Monday coronavirus briefing, provincial health officer Dr. Bonnie Henry acknowledged there are some people of faith creating "some consternation" around her latest order barring in-person church gatherings, but said most are complying and opting to hold virtual services.
"Faith is not a building," Henry said. "It's not about Sunday mornings, but it's about every day, and how we connect with each other and how we support each other. It's not about rights."
She also once again asked British Columbians to follow the province's tough-but-temporary restrictions, which were given added urgency after 46 people died from COVID-19 over the weekend – making it B.C.'s deadliest weekend of the pandemic.
Henry noted that seniors are the most likely to suffer the consequences of irresponsible behaviour.
"These people have faces, have names, have stories, have families," she said.
"If you are thinking that it might be OK to bend the rules, please remember that this virus takes lives."
Langley RCMP said officers attended the first of three planned services at Riverside Calvary Chapel on Sunday, and returned for the second and found no in-person gathering taking place. Authorities were not called back for the third.
One church member, Brent Alan Mills, told CTV News he never saw RCMP asking people to leave when he attended on Sunday, only a bylaw officer who came in as the service was starting.
"He spoke to the pastor but the pastor is not going to tell anybody to leave," said Mills, who estimated about 10 people were inside at the time.
He suggested the public health order asking people to attend church services remotely until Dec. 7 violates members' Charter rights.
"As a Christian you want to go and hear the word of God taught," he said. "We do live in a free country."
Langley church issued fine for holding in-person worship, breaking COVID-19 rules
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Tyres and brakes will continue UK air pollution in EV future
Dust from car brakes and tyres will be the biggest pollution factor in the UK when the country’s vehicle fleet has gone all electric, a new study has found.
Fragments of microplastics from tyres, road surfaces and brakes will also flow into rivers, and ultimately the sea, government advisors have suggested.
Ministers have now said that based on the report, they will look to introduce new standards to improve tyres and brakes and are calling for industry support to prevent the potential pollution levels they may cause.
The UK Government’s Air Quality Expert Group said particles from brake wear, tyre wear and road surface wear directly contribute to well over half of particle pollution from road transport.
‘No legislation is currently in place specifically to limit or reduce [these] particles,’ the group warns. ‘So, while legislation has driven down emissions of particles from exhausts, the non-exhaust proportion of road traffic emissions has increased.’
Calling on the automotive industry to consider action to address the problem, Environment Minister Thérèse Coffey said: ‘The documents published today make clear that it is not just fumes from car exhaust pipes that have a detrimental impact on human health but also the tiny particles that are released from their brakes and tyres.
‘Emissions from car exhausts have been decreasing through the development of cleaner technologies, and there is now a need for the car industry to find innovative ways to address the challenges of air pollution from other sources.’
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While the focus has previously been on tackling exhaust emissions, the report highlights just how much pollution comes from other automotive sources.
‘The automotive industry is committed to improving air quality and has already all but eliminated particulate matter from tailpipe emissions,’ adds SMMT Chief Executive Mike Hawes. ‘Brake, tyre and road wear is a recognised challenge as emissions from these sources are not easy to measure.
‘A United Nations global group, including industry experts and government, is working to better understand, and agree on how to measure, these emissions. Maintenance of the road surface, as well as further investment in new vehicle technologies, is essential to reducing these emissions, without compromising safety, and we welcome further research in this area.’
Industry innovation is one way to tackle the challenge, and the Government is also advising drivers to consider how their driving style can reduce emissions - with gentle braking, driving at a consistent speed and using hybrid and electric vehicles with regenerative braking among the ways to play a part.
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15 Best Games for Samsung Galaxy J1 2016
Niharika KaulJanuary 7, 2018
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Samsung’s one of the latest launch is Samsung Galaxy J1(2016). The handset was launched in January 2016, and it was his successor to the popular Samsung Galaxy J1 (launched 2015, February) . This phone has Android Lollipop v 5.1.1 operating system with 4.5″ inch Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen. It also has wide variety of features like Geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection. However, in here, we are going to talk about best games you can play on Samsung Galaxy J1. Gaming is what we all like and its a perfect time-killer too.
Lets get started then.
15 Best Games for Samsung Galaxy J1(2016)
1. Downwell
This game was launched recently for android devices as previously it was released only for PCs and iOS. It is quite an interesting game. It is about a person, venturing down the well in search of treasure with only its amazing Gunboots that gives huge power to player to wrath upon its enemies.
There is also unique set of weapons and versatility in various level of this game You won’t see the set of trips gets repeated. However, you will need to pay to enjoy this game, a mere sum of Rs.198.51.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdD5xDP3im4&w=854&h=480]
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2. Plant v/s Zombies 2
About this game, first of all, I want to say that it is my favorite game from all. I like those cute plants and weird zombies too. Level by level it gets tougher and zombies gets more trickier and tries to get to you to eat your brain. It a light-hearted game. At first it seems quite an easy game, but as the level progresses, you have to become strategical in planting the right plant depending upon what kind of zombies you are gonna face. Right readers!
There will be many types of zombies, dumb, dumber and dumbest but they all will have some unique shield like a bucket on their head, or a balloon to fly, or heavy machinery etc. To wrap it up, it’s an amazing game!
Its an open source game, free of cost.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG_gQ6cVjwI&w=853&h=480]
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3. Color Switch
You agree or not but this kind of game are the most popular ones. It is currently one of the most played game specifically for android users. Here, you need to bounce a ball to clear the obstruction, and it can only be done if the balls in the obstruction are of same color as your shooting ball.
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4. Unkilled
Unkilled is renounced as ‘One of the best looking zombie shooter ever made’. This game has won many gaming awards in 2015. You will have a unique set of weapons to kill those unkilled zombies in multiple environment like Highway, New York A, Tutorial stage etc.
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5. FIFA 16
Newer, Better, Faster FIFA experience on your mobile..finally! This game was available only for consoles and PCs but now you can play it on your Android device too. It a superior quality, a very realistic game. If you like football, you will surely like this game.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDL0HHLMU2o&w=853&h=480]
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6. Alto’s Adventure
‘An endless snowboarding odyssey’. Here, you will get to rescue runaway llamas, grind rooftops, leap over terrifying chasms and outwit the mountain elders in your snowboarding journey with your friends.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk5JupHelAg&w=853&h=480]
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7. Despicable me
If you love those curt yellow banana yaming creatures, then you will love this game. This game is about how cutely those minions collects different fruits to make that tasty jelly, Yukkk! for Gru.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esimkFZ6Uys&w=853&h=480]
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8. Crossy Road
‘Crossy Road is the endless arcade hopper you’ll never want to put down.’ It quite a cutie game…all I can say about this game where a chicen wants to cross the road and you have to help that chicken.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3pTw0jmxlg&w=853&h=480]
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9. Rayman Adventures
‘Embark on Legendary Adventures’. It was originally a Playstation game but it is also available for Android devices. Here you get to explore amazing worlds in this epic journey to rescue Incrediballs.
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10. Farm Frenzy
Anybody wants to have their own farm and animals? If interested, you can choose this game, but, be prepared to take care of your farm and work hard..because you will need to work hard to raise your animals otherwise they will run away.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FnJoYJ0zKI&w=853&h=480]
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11. Call of Champions
Call of Champions is an intense real-time multi-player battle arena(MOBA, ‘ Refined for Mobile, Designed for Competition’) game. It features over 15 champions which you can upgrade through battles. First you need to choose a champion, recruit a team, and then fight your battle. Today’s latest update is that a new champion has been released called ZORA. Very thrilling!
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12. WordBrain
An easy to start game but it gets challenging level by level. The latest update regarding this game is that it has been updated to appear in random order for each of the user.This game has a huge set of brain twisting puzzles, the puzzle lovers will surely like this game and other will fall to like it as soon as they start to play!
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y47nfBv15M&w=853&h=480]
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13. Minecraft Pocket Edition
Minecraft is a construction game. Explore randomly generated world, build awesome things with blocks and create whatever you want, it could a simple house or a grand palace. You can play this game alone or with your friends. Their latest free update includes Redstone Circuits, Desert Temples, Rabbits, and more!
Its not a free game, it costs around Rs,479.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-fMtNOS_gU&w=853&h=480]
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14. Prune
This game has won Time Magazine’s Game of of the year 2015 award. It is a game about the beauty and joy of cultivation. This game is about tree cultivation and if you are a nature lover, you are ought to like this game. It is a simple game where you cultivates your tree, cut down bushes, branches to let it grow fast and as it grows, hit the sun, and a certain number of flowers grows, you beat a level. It surely worth a try people.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfq7xXQlNOI&w=853&h=480]
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15. Need for Speeds; No Limits
Its the last game on our list, but that doesn’t mean it’s not good. It’s as you can imagine, is a car racing game, but here, you have customization option. You can create your own ride, and you can ride as fast as you can. Be ready to see few in-app purchase but if you wish you can disable this option whenever you wish
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQvlNm20x0&w=853&h=480]
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I hope you find this list useful and it ends our list of best games you can enjoy on Galaxy J1. Please feel free to share your suggestions as well, it will be helpful for us as well as for other fellow readers. Play well dear gamers!
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sahrukh says:
Hi,I”ve downloaded need for speed no limits for my samsung j1(6). but when I want to play it,then it freezes by itself. same issue in real racing 3.
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Try to clean cache memory of both, and while launching both the games, make sure that Auto-rotate option is disabled.
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You can’t even see the most brilliant thing about the iPhone X’s design
Image source: Zach Epstein, BGR
November 9th, 2017 at 11:19 AM
It has now been nearly a week since Apple released the iPhone X, and the response from users has been overwhelmingly positive. In fact, I cannot recall any iPhone launch that has gone this smoothly for Apple. No “gates” like Antennagate, no widespread winging over minor problems, and no serious backlash over any of the features Apple introduced on the iPhone X. Honestly, the near-universal positive response has been pretty shocking.
It’s not shocking because the iPhone X is a bad phone or because it has any serious issues, of course. Instead, it’s shocking because the iPhone X marks the most dramatic change ever to Apple’s iPhone lineup, and people are generally afraid of change. The Touch ID feature everyone relied on is gone, and the home button that had been at the center of the iOS user experience is gone as well. And yet people by and large are still head over heels in love with the new iPhone X thanks to its impressive power and stunning design.
What you might not know, however, is that the best thing about the iPhone X’s design isn’t something you can actually see when you hold the phone.
Here’s a picture of the iPhone X and its (almost) all-screen design:
Image source: AP/REX/Shutterstock
Now, let’s look at some other phones that launched before the iPhone X and also feature (almost) all-screen designs.
Samsung’s Galaxy Note 8:
The Galaxy S8:
The Xiaomi Mi Mix:
Image source: MrMobile, YouTube
The LG G6:
Now, all of those phones have beautiful designs with extremely small bezels around parts of the display. But if you look at Samsung’s phones again, you’ll notice that the bezels above and below the screens are quite large, and the same can be said of the LG G6. Xiaomi’s phone has barely any bezel on the sides or above the screen, but the bezel below the display is enormous.
Now let’s look at the iPhone X again:
Image source: Apple Inc.
Apart from the “notch” where Apple houses the iPhone X’s ear speaker, TrueDepth camera array, and other sensors, the bezel is remarkably thin all the way around the screen which every other phone we’ve looked at has a huge bezel on the bottom. How did Apple manage to get the phone’s display to stretch all the way to the bottom of the phone when no other company could?
The answer lies in the following image:
Rumors surfaced long before the iPhone X’s launch suggesting that Apple was going to use flexible OLED display panels in the phone. And yet a few months later, designs leaked that showed a perfectly flat iPhone. What gives?
If you look closely at the image above, you can actually see that the iPhone X’s display stretches past the bottom of the phone and then actually curves around behind itself. Apple did this so that the display controller — the chip that allows a screen to actually display images — could be hidden behind the actual display instead of underneath it, as is the case with every other all-screen smartphone on the market.
Apple’s engineering here is nothing short of brilliant. It’s a remarkably elegant solution that allowed Apple to release an iPhone with a display design that is vastly superior to everything else on the market. You can be sure that Apple’s rivals are already hard at work copying this terrific design — surprising, we know — but for the time being, this is just one more way that the iPhone X is in a league of its own.
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How black was Ancient Egypt?
Mon Dec 21st 2009 by abagond
The simple answer, of course, is that no one in Ancient Egypt was black: “black” is an American social construct, something made up to make men into slaves, even those who are mostly European by blood.
The less-simple answer is to apply American ideas of race to ancient Egypt, something that people have been doing since the early 1800s.
Motives: Since American society is built on the idea that whites are naturally better than blacks, whites have reason to downplay the blackness of ancient Egypt while blacks have reason to play it up – because civilization in America goes all the way back to Egypt by way of the English, Romans and Greeks. If it turned out to be founded by black people, what would that say?
What they said in ancient times:
Herodotus said Egyptians had black skin and woolly hair, which is how he said the Ethiopians looked too.
Aristotle called both the Ethiopians and Egyptians black.
The Bible calls both the Ethiopians and Egyptians sons of Ham.
The Egyptians saw themselves as belonging to their own race, different from blacks to the south – but also different from all their other neighbours. On the other hand:
They called themselves kemet – “black”, though some say it just means they are from the land of black soil (the Nile).
They said they came from the land of Punt – a place they drew as having elephants and giraffes.
By the way, American slaveowners also saw blacks as the sons of Ham. That allowed them to use the Curse of Ham from the Bible to excuse their racism.
What the DNA says:
Present-day Egyptians are, by blood, about 60% Eurasian, like the Arabs who took over their country, and 40% black African. In the past they were, if anything, blacker because since the glory days of Ancient Egypt they have been taken over by the Persians, Greeks, Romans and Arabs. But even at 40% black they easily count as black according to America’s One Drop Rule, which sees even a drop of black African blood (in practice, about 10% or more) as enough to make you black.
What their language shows:
These days Egyptians speak Arabic, but in ancient times they spoke Egyptian, the stuff they wrote in hieroglyphics. That language came to Egypt from Ethiopia about 12,000 years ago. Of course, the language could have been brought to Egypt by some forgotten war, but it seems it came from settlers: one study shows the maternal blood line of Egyptians also goes back to Ethiopia.
Reconstructions:
Using high-powered computers, experts can now get a rough idea of how someone looked from their skull. They make a living at it by doing it for the police for murder cases. When the same thing is done to the skulls of King Tut and a mummy some believe is Queen Nefertiti, here is what you get (click on the pictures to find out more about them):
Was Cleopatra black?
One Drop Rule
The white inventor argument – from which this post sprang
Black people according to Herodotus
on Tue Dec 22nd 2009 at 18:51:03 BLACKkittenROAR
Wow, fantastic post! This is absolutely fascinating!
on Tue Dec 22nd 2009 at 19:18:52 no_slappz
“Motives: Since American society is built on the idea that whites are naturally better than blacks…”
Your statement is so absurd it’s difficult to respond.
However, the best places to look for information about the building blocks of American society are probably in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence.
Those documents do a good job of expressing America’s ideals. In short, the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness.
“…whites have reason to downplay the blackness of ancient Egypt while blacks have reason to play it up – because civilization in America goes all the way back to Egypt by way of the English, Romans and Greeks.”
Yeah. According to you, whites base their self-worth on events and devleopments in the Nile region that occurred thousands of years ago. The fact that you believe this lunacy says a lot about your fears.
“If it turned out to be founded by black people, what would that say?”
Your scenario raises only one question. If blacks were the leaders of the world in those early days of cvilization, then what happened? What caused the great fall?
Why is Africa a mess? Why do blacks lag in today’s world?
on Tue Dec 22nd 2009 at 20:01:11 AO
sigh. it continues on yet another post.
on Tue Dec 22nd 2009 at 21:32:10 eccentricyoruba
i personally believe that ancient Egyptians may have closely resembled Berbers of Northern and Western Africa. i’ve read somewhere (i don’t remember where exactly) that though ancient Egyptians were darker that ancient Romans/Arabs, they were not as dark as those in countries/kingdoms south of their border (Kushites/Sudanese). all in all, this was interesting.
on Tue Dec 22nd 2009 at 21:39:16 peanut
well written, I know alot of egyptians and some of them I can actually see the black african in them. This one little boy looked exactly like my mixed cousin, he had pale skin and curly hair and hazel eyes and he was egyptian.
on Tue Dec 22nd 2009 at 22:21:45 Herneith
Here are some quotes form those who actually saw ‘live’ Egyptians of the time, and also some from De Volney, who is considered one of the originators of Egyptology as a discipline:
“It is in fact manifest that the Colchidians are Egyptian by race….several Egyptians told me that in their opinion the Colchidians were descended from soldiers of Sesostris. I had conjectured as much myself from two pointers, firstly becuase they have black skins and kinky hair (to tell the truth this proves nothing for other peoples have them too) and secondly and more reliably for the reason alone among mankind the Egyptians and the Ethiopians have practiced circumcision since time immemorial. Herodotus, Book II, 104
‘Those who are too black are cowards, like for instance, the Egyptians and Ethiopians. But those who are excessively white are also cowards as we can see from the example of women, the complexion of courage is between the two.’ Aristotle, Physiognomy 6
. . the men of Egypt are mostly brown or black with a skinny and dessicated look”.
39-Ammianus Maarcellinus, Book XXII, para 16 (23).
“The Ethiopians,” says Lucian, page 985, “were the first who
invented the science of the stars, and gave names to the planets,
not at random and without meaning, but descriptive of the qualities
which they conceived them to possess; and it was from them that
this art passed, still in an imperfect state, to the Egyptians.”
There a people,
now forgotten, discovered, while others were yet barbarians, the
elements of the arts and sciences. A race of men now rejected from
society for their sable skin and frizzled hair, founded on the
study of the laws of nature, those civil and religious systems
which still govern the universe. Lower down, those dusky points
are the pyramids whose masses have astonished you.
Comte de Volney
This but a small sampling.
on Tue Dec 22nd 2009 at 22:29:43 abagond
on Tue Dec 22nd 2009 at 22:31:34 anonomyous
@No_slappz….Empires rise and fall. That is the nature of history and politics. Their are many factors to the condition of some African countries. But colonialism, and so called “aid” are big factors.
“Your statement is so absurd it’s difficult to respond. However, the best places to look for information about the building blocks of American society are probably in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence. Those documents do a good job of expressing America’s ideals. In short, the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness. “
No, This statement is absurd! When these documents were being written and made into law, America was wiping out the native population, engaging heavily in the transatlantic slave trade and becoming wealthy off of a free-labor based plantation economy. That is morally contradictory!!! Those documents were written at the time to only include ‘white’ men. They did not write these documents with the intent that it would ever (as far as they were concerned) include women or non-whites of any kind.
Yes, ‘whites’ do have a reason to claim Ancient Egypt was not originally ‘black’. Whites had to find a way to morally justify to the world and to themselves that ‘black’ people were inferior. Claiming that ‘black’ people never contributed anything to mankind was one of the them.
This topic is a big deal for whites cause Egyptian ideas gave birth to ancient Greece and then ancient Rome. If this is shown to be true it shows that centuries of racist perceptions to be unjustified.
I found it interesting how Europe’s greatest civilizations are very close to Africa. I don’t believe that is a coincidence.
@ anonymous. Great comments. Thanks 🙂
on Tue Dec 22nd 2009 at 22:53:46 Aiyo
no slappz makes me laugh he goes on about “if black people were so great what happend?” errr… slavery, colonialism things of that naturem hello
I think no slappz needs a slap lol
Anyways I predict this post uis going to get A LOT of comments. I have mentioned before that Black is a fairly new term and everyone in Africa didn’t go around as “Black” People identified as their ethnic group or “ethinic tribes”.
(I’ll use Nigeria as a example since I am Nigerian)
Even before Nigeria became known as Nigerian people were not saying “I am Nigerian” They were saying “I am Yoruba” or “I am Igbo” etc. That’s my take on it
on Wed Dec 23rd 2009 at 00:30:04 anonymous
@aiyo….”I think no slappz needs a slap lol”
Ditto on that one!!
That is very true. I believe that African people should hold on to their ethnic affiliation because their diverse customs and religions deserve to be preserved. However, I think that Africans should also learn to view each other as Africans collectively and help each other out. The way I see it, Africa has such an abundance of resources that Africans shouldn’t have to go outside of their continent for ANYTHING! Africans could be able to trade just within Africa and be richer than any other continent in the world.
The ethnic wars are out of hand. If they want to move forward, they MUST come together. Europeans fought each other for centuries, but in the end they all recognize that together they are stronger then the are individually. I think that because of how modern day global economics and politics are structured African people don’t have a choice but to see themselves as a collective ( by that I mean politically and economically, not culturally).
on Wed Dec 23rd 2009 at 04:10:48 RainaHavock
@Anoymous: Great Response!
on Wed Dec 23rd 2009 at 06:09:42 peanut
abagond, is english your first language?
oh abagond i have a suggestion for a post, how about jamaican maroon communities?? Please, that would be a great post…
on Wed Dec 23rd 2009 at 07:16:22 tulio
I believe the Egyptians were a mixed race people with genetic influence from black Africa, Semitic people from the middle east as well as whiter people from the near east and Mediterranean. When you look at their paintings, you will see a pretty wide variety of skin shades from African black to European white, though most of then portray an olive complexion. I also think that as you went further south, the blacker they became, and the further north, the whiter they became. Egypt was under black Nubian rule during the 25th dynasty. So black genes were definitely in the mix there amongst others.
“tulio
Yeah you’ll believe that because whites don’t think anything great can come from someone that is just plain black, unless they are mixed.
The egyptians were black people, deal with it.
Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if a white scholar went into all the tombs they could and painted over the egyptian figures with peach flesh tone to make them look white.
on Wed Dec 23rd 2009 at 14:10:08 Hathor
I don’t focus much on civilization, it’s culture. We denigrate our ancestors when we try to claim ancestors not our own. Some of us may have ancestors of the Benin civilization, but many of our ancestors still had stone technology. Civilization, technically that means the people have stopped migrating and live in cities. Small villages can be stable economic environments that are sustained by agriculture and tool making. What makes a viable society is our social structure; our family relationships, how we value children, treat our elders. deal with justice and how the society creates a sense of place. As black people these are the things we should value, we shouldn’t define ourselves by how well we compare to white people.
on Wed Dec 23rd 2009 at 14:20:02 Black&German
Fascinating post. I mentioned something similar on a post about Jesus’ appearance.
The idea of racial purity is a non-starter anyway. People have been moving around and intermarrying since time-immemorial.
Americans used to deny that the Queen of Sheba was black, even though she came from Ethiopia. They thought she looked like this. Notice how her servants are black but she’s depicted as a white woman. That was the general depiction.
on Wed Dec 23rd 2009 at 14:29:26 Erin
Great post Aba:) I agree, this country owes a lot to the fact that whites at the time thought they were superior to everyone else. How else would they justify taking over land already inhabited and kidnapping people across the ocean to work as slaves?? I found out a long time ago that if I wanted to learn the truth about my heritage before slavery, I had to teach it to myself. Is it me, or does Tut look a bit like Columbus Short??
on Wed Dec 23rd 2009 at 14:36:25 leigh204
@B&G:
Yeah. It was the same thing when Elizabeth Taylor portrayed Cleopatra.
on Wed Dec 23rd 2009 at 15:33:55 Mira
Race Race isn’t a biological category, it’s cultural. There’s nothing- nothing!- in the Egyptian sources that mentions “race”. Egyptians did not have “race” as a category. They did not think of themselves as members of a particular race, nor did they think of other people as such. Of course, they did think of themselves as different than the other peoples. This image shows foreigners (as portrayed in Ramses III temple in Medinet Habu). Yes, they did notice difference ins kin tones or hair, but those were equal so to speak, to other differences, such as clothes.
None of these people are portrayed as Egyptians. I don’t have an image of an Egyptian, but their skin tone (for males) was darker than “Asians” (that lived in Syria and Palestine) but lighter than Nubians.
So what? So nothing. Egyptians did not recognize “race” as a special category. So, why do we discuss race of Ancient Egyptians? Because it matters to us.
Afrocentrism vs Eurocentrism We all see the problem. Some people (usually white, I guess) claim that the white culture was superior, because it gave all those technologies, cultures, great empires and civilizations. Ok, their first mistake is to forget about Ancient China or Azctecs. So they say- in any case, there was never a great Africancivilization. Ancient Egypt? They were white!
Afrocentrism goes in the opposite (but not quite THE opposite) direction and says: there was a great African civilization- Ancient Egypt! That was a black civilization. And that’s not all! Ancient Egypt influenced (some people even claim- colonized) early Greece, so all the Greek knowledge actually came from Egypt, from Africa. And since is believed that western civilization started with Ancient Greece, we can see the point: the western civilization, in fact, started in Ancient Egypt. It is African, it is black, and it was later (during the imperialism) stolen and fabricated by white people, who could not stand the fact modern western civilization is, in fact, black.
The problem is: Why Egypt? This story make sense… But why Egypt? Why do Afrocentrics claim Egypt was great ancient civilization? Why Egypt, when there are other civilizations that are without any doubt black in any and every sense of the word (even in those aspect that Egypt, perhaps, wasn’t)? Why Egypt, if there’s Nubia, if there’s Great Zimbabwe?
The answer is simple. They don’t have pyramids, and all the wonders of Ancient Egypt that are so important for the history.
Really? Says who?
<em?Says white, European civilization!
See, the problem with this aspect of Afrocentric beliefs is that it’s, in fact, way to much Eurocentric. White western culture says Egypt is more important than Nubia or Zimbabwe. White western culture is dominant in today’s world, so many of our beliefs are shaped the way white western culture dictates.
There’s no reason for Egypt to be more important than any other culture or civilization. So, rather than questioning race of Ancient Egyptians, maybe we should question why we find this culture more interesting than some others.
My personal opinion I must admit I don’t know much about race, and I don’t know what is considered “black”. But if I have to state my opinion, I’d say Ancient Egyptians weren’t black as people from West Africa, but they were not Caucasian either. But, like I said, that’s not the main point here. What is main point here is- why is that important today?
Herodotus: As wonderful as his books are, they are not the most accurate historical source. Many of his claims can not be proved. In fact, they’re often contradicted by other sources (archaeological, Egyptian texts, etc). Herodotus IS a valuable source, but for some other things. I know this post isn’t about him, I just had to add this. I love his work but that’s another matter.
About Cleopatra: She was the last Egyptian queen, but she was, in fact, Macedonian. True, some of her ancestors are unknown (there’s a possibility that one of her grandmothers was African), but in any case, Cleopatra isn’t the best example here because she was mostly European and therefore do not represent an “average” Egyptian (if there’s such a thing).
Given that Cleopatra came from Macedonia, the likelihood of her being black in the sense we understand the word today(sub-saharan black/negroid), is extremely unlikely. For some reason this issue of Cleopatra’s race seems to be highly controversial in the black community.
Here is a good write-up about that debate:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1077/is_4_57/ai_82479151/
tulio: Like I said, there is a possibility one of her grandmothers was African (black). I won’t go into the debate whether that makes Cleopatra black or not.
But the problem is: why Cleopatra? Even with a black grandmother, she was still Macedonian, and doesn’t represent an average Ancient Egyptian. Why is Cleopatra so important, when there are so many others. There’s whole Egyptian dynasty ruled by Nubians (who were black).
Once again, because Cleopatra is more famous. Why? Because Romans made her famous. Romans = White western civilization (at least in this case).
@ Mira…“My personal opinionI must admit I don’t know much about race, and I don’t know what is considered “black”. But if I have to state my opinion, I’d say Ancient Egyptians weren’t black as people from West Africa, but they were not Caucasian either. But, like I said, that’s not the main point here. What is main point here is- why is that important today?”
I think that Egypt in its later dynasties was more mixed because of trade with Greece. But the very beginnings were African. However, what exactly do you mean by “as black”? African people come in various shades naturally. Not all pure blood Africans are of a deep dark brown complexion. West Africa is not the only part of Africa with very dark complexioned people. Many eastern Africans (i.e. Ethiopians, Sudanese, Kenyans) and southern Africans are also of varying shades of brown.
I love how when it comes to comes to Egypt, historians assume that just because they weren’t of the deepest shade of brown that they must be mixed with white blood and therefore not black African. Its like the one-drop rule in reverse lol! Obviously if they are tan-to-white complexioned then yes they were more than likely Greek/Macedonian or some mixture thereof. But, all those people in the Egyptian paintings of varying brown complexions doesn’t necessarily mean their mixed with anything.
P.S. yes Africa had many other wonderful civilizations. However either alot of misconceptions have been told about African civilizations or they completely ignore west African and south African civilizations. Many historians don’t won’t to admit that the beginnings of Egypt were black; when much evidence points to it.
Tulio:
Thanks for the link. It looks like an interesting article.
on Wed Dec 23rd 2009 at 16:35:14 Susan
I agree with your point that letting Eurocentric standards and values serve as the measuring tool is problematic in itself (I hope I’m accurately interpreting what you said). It makes me think of alleged IQ tests. I say alleged because to me, it’s obvious that these tests DON’T measure IQ. Given the many ways that intelligence is applied in different situations, it’s ridiculous to think that 1 test, developed from 1 perspective, can measure intelligence in it’s entirety for every person. No one test can even begin to capture all the different aspects of someone’s intelligence. But look at what happens: 1. create the test, 2. claim (falsely) that it measures intelligence, 3. use the test to label and define people. The validity of the test itself is never questioned, when it should be. Instead, I’m left to question myself if I score poorly on it, regardless of what else might be apparent in myself and my life.
I don’t mean to go off from the main topic of the post, but I think the point is worth highlighting. Many ways of looking at the world, making assessments, and measuring, are ethnocentric and fundamentally flawed. So using these approaches and measurements leads to conclusions that are also fundamentally flawed and/or conclusions that will typically be favorouably biased towards the ones who developed those approaches and measurements in the first place.
“However, what exactly do you mean by “as black”?
I don’t know. I don’t know what it really means to be black (when it comes to identity). When it comes to biology, there’s no such thing as “black”. Yes, there are various skin shades in Africa, and I am aware of that; but that is not my point. Skin tone doesn’t make a race.
Ancient Egyptians didn’t have category of “race”, it simply didn’t exist in their world. To apply such a category as race to those people is anachronistic. That is the main problem with the debate. It doesn’t matter at all how they looked (the shade of their skin, the colour of their eyes, their hair, etc) because race isn’t biological, it’s cultural thing.
In other words, to question “race” of Ancient Egyptians matter (and makes sense) only to us.
And yes, I know Ancient Egypt is an African civilization, there’s no doubt about that. But then again, I hope we agree it’s not the point here. But then again, Ancient Egyptians would disagree about this as well, since “Africa” didn’t mean anything to them (they didn’t see themselves as Africans).
It’s not just Egypt. Take Ancient Greece for example. It’s believed to be THE beginning of European (western). civilization. Still, Greeks didn’t: a) consider themselves European (if nothing else, they – like more or less any other culture- consider themselves center of the world, and had many contacts not with barbaric Europe but with (still barbaric) but more advanced civilizations of the south and east, Egypt and Middle East). And b) If we’re talking about geography, Greece isn’t “western” western- it’s located on the Balkans. Of course Balkan peninsula is in Europe, but is usually not considered “western”, and this story has its own “ups and downs” when it comes to identity, imperialism, stealing someone’s culture, etc.
@ Susan
“I agree with your point that letting Eurocentric standards and values serve as the measuring tool is problematic in itself (I hope I’m accurately interpreting what you said).”
Yes, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. And I agree about IQ tests. Hey, they can say it’s the best thing we have at the moment, but don’t claim it to be perfect.
And people can not see the world outside their cultural + their personal lens.
1. White Americans are never going to admit that Nubia, Zimbabwe, etc, were anything great. They cannot say that about Egypt.
2. American society is built on the idea that being even part black African means there is something wrong with you, that you are not as good as whites.
Therefore if Ancient Egypt was even just part black, it gives the lie to the racism that American society is built on.
1. Well, it’s about the image average person has about a particular culture. Average person’s image of Egypt isn’t realistic, but it doesn’t matter- average person see Egypt as something great and important, and Nubia for example, as something “not so important” (key word here is, I think, “important”, not “great”).
(off topic) The sad thing is that we don’t really know that much about Ancient Egypt. We know a lot about life of their upper class and their monuments. But we don’t know much about lives of average people.
2. That is horrible, but that’s American problem, it has nothing to do with Ancient Egypt.
on Wed Dec 23rd 2009 at 23:16:51 Herneith
Herodotus may have been inaccurate about certain cultural and, or, religious facts about Ancient Egypt. However, as to describing the people, he saw them in person. In many instances, in his writings, he prefaces what he writes with disclaimers as to the validity of his sources. In describing the inhabitants, he describes what he saw. There are other ancient writers who describe the Egyptians as black even after repeated invasions by Persians, Greeks and Romans.
I have a friend who recently went to Egypt. I asked her what the people looked like. For the most part, they looked black in the North American definition of such. In fact she was greeted with “welcome home sister” by some of the natives. If she was to write of her experiences in Egypt, and the writing was found a few thousand years hence, people would question the validity of her accounts when it came to describing customs perhaps, but eyewitness accounts as to how the populace looked? I don’t think so.
Someone said that the earlier dynasties were black with little to no admixture. I believe this to be so. After the invasion of the Hyksos, who were driven out by the founders of the 18th dynasty, some admixture may have began to take place. Despite the mass invasion of others and with it admixture presumably, the Egyptians still managed to maintain strong black physical characteristics as evinced by De Volney’s writings of the late 1700, early 1800s. Bottom line, if you were to transplant an Ancient Egyptian to the American South during slavery or Jim Crow, they would have been seen and treated as black. They would today be treated with the ‘colour blind’ philosophy prevalent in society. I doubt King Tut would have been served a cup of coffee at the local segregated diner unless he sat in the ‘coloured section’. What I would like to know is why people try to explain away what eyewitnesses a few thousand years ago. Look at the names of these writers, they weren’t lightweights. Why would they lie? They were not writing from any racialized vantage point as today. Their descriptions were that, descriptions
I mentioned Herodotus because I had to (archaeology of Greece is my major, so whenever I talk about a subject like this one, I mention him). It wasn’t in reply to you and I didn’t do it to disagree with you.
I don’t know if your friend is black or white, but my (white) friend has a bit different experience (which doesn’t mean anything, really). My friend looks Middle Eastern (at least that’s what people say) and natives thought she was one of them. So maybe that’s the way they greet tourists?
In any case, this is important:
if you were to transplant an Ancient Egyptian to the American South during slavery or Jim Crow, they would have been seen and treated as black. They would today be treated with the ‘colour blind’ philosophy prevalent in society. I doubt King Tut would have been served a cup of coffee at the local segregated diner unless he sat in the ‘coloured section’.
And that’s exactly what I’m talking about. I don’t know much about Jim Crow and segregation rules, but Ancient Egyptians didn’t look like an average Caucasian, that’s for sure. Tutankhamun was an African man. He might not be an important ruler in Egyptian history, but he is the most famous.
And back to Herodotus. I will check my translation of the second book to see how Colchidians are described. The problem with the passage you mentioned isn’t description of people and their appearance, it’s Sesostris and his alleged colonization. If that is true, then why Egyptian sources don’t talk about it?
on Thu Dec 24th 2009 at 00:57:58 Annaleisha
Absolutely brilliant post. I’m lovin’ the comments by Mira,Herneith and Susan. Keep em comin. I’m learnin a lot about history! If I had more time on my hands I’d formally study it! Its beautifully fascinating!
Gd post Aba!!!
on Thu Dec 24th 2009 at 01:35:40 Ginsu Shark
I figured Egyptians looked the way they usually drew themselves: brownish skin with straight black hair…
on Thu Dec 24th 2009 at 04:08:48 Hathor
Ginsu Shark.
Their hair were wigs.
An African accommodation to heat and parasites?
I think when Egyptian culture is studied, it has more in common with other African cultures than with the Mideast or Greece. That is; from the approach of cultural anthropologist.
Speaking of getting served a cup of coffee. You have to remember that the south’s whites were Scot Irish, Irish and English, so any hint of yellow in your skin and you could be questioned. Ever wonder why outside of Louisiana, there were no Mediterranean immigrants.
Modern Egyptians were suspect when I went to college in the early sixties. The heavy Arabic accent only allowed them to be served out side of the campus area.Some time it was really tough for white folk trying to decide what the foreign students were, because the university would come down on the establishments if they discriminated against them. Now this did not cover the dark skinned African.
on Thu Dec 24th 2009 at 04:29:06 AO
True Hathor about the wigs. Also many Egyptian women had shaved heads and then wore the wigs. That really cut down on the parasites and helped them keep a cooler head. 🙂
on Thu Dec 24th 2009 at 05:57:11 tulio
Check this out guys: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Gates
This is how the Egyptians viewed race and the way they portrayed the various races in that part of the world. The Nubians were shown as black Africans and the Egyptians shown as brownish skinned. It shows “Asiatics” as much lighter then themselves, yet not as dark as blacks. The Egyptians seemed to be sort of an in between race.
[img] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Seti1a.jpg [/img]
on Thu Dec 24th 2009 at 06:22:13 Borlanina
Wikipedia is a site created by white people, so of course they are going to list egyptians as being mixed because whites don’t believe anything great can come from an un-mixed black person.
Wikipedia is not the truth either, you gonna find “facts”
in david duke’s popcorn machine next?
You’re just on here trying to make the egyptians sound like anything but pure black,
because you don’t want to give credit to black people for the great civilization of ancient egypt.
Wow, how’d David Duke come up in this? Lol. Some people are getting a little carried away here.
If I had to surmise, I’m willing to bet that the ancient Egyptians looked very similar to modern present day Upper Egyptians and Modern Nubians.
Ancient Egyptians:
Modern Upper Egyptians: http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/upper-egyptians.png
Modern Ethiopians/Nubians:
Note – The ancient Nubians were much blacker in appearance than the modern ones. They became mixed with Arab over time as Islam pushed further into Africa.
Ancient Nubians:
on Thu Dec 24th 2009 at 08:05:00 Kat
I just think ancient Egyptians resemble people from the Horn of Africa (Ethiopia, Somalia) as well as Southern Sudanese Bantu phenotypes. I think there was just an overlap of various features with obvious what we call “black” admixture today.
Someone mentioned that Eygptians saw themselves as different from other “races”. Of course, they would see themselves as different. It’s the culture.
Back then, Culture ALWAYS took precedence over phenotypes.
Eygptian is a culture, Nubian is a culture- It’s always possible for two groups to share similar phenotypical features and yet, see themselves as different and unique from the other.
I’m pretty sure before western colonization, the Igbo and Yoruba tribe of Nigeria saw themselves as “different” and yet they are now classified as black African.
Greeks and Romans also saw themselves as “different” from the Germanic tribes and the Gauls even though they share similar skin tones. But people today agree that Greeks, Romans, Germanics, and Celts are now classified as white.
Yet, if folks apply this same concept to ancient Egyptians, suddenly there is backtracking to anything BUT black even though the earliest account of what ancient Eygptians look like is similar to Iman Bowie-type who is “black”
Kat, since none of us were around back then, the only think we can rely on to indicate the skin color of the Egyptians were the paintings they made of themselves. They clearly portrayed themselves as a copper-skinned people. They were not white. And did not portray themselves as white. They did paint other races to the north as white, but not themselves. They also did not paint themselves as black either, even though that color was available to them. They painted ancient Nubians as black but not themselves.
Now I don’t know why people get so upset when you imply that ancient Egypt wasn’t black in the sense that the rest of Africa is. The Nubians certainly were black as the Egyptians themselves even said. If this is all about taking pride in black civilization, why not take pride in the Nubians rather than the Egyptians? The Nubians had more pyramids than Egypt. They had an alphabet. They had armies and trade. They had an advanced ancient civilization. Why do so many black people prefer claiming Egypt over Nubia when Nubia is clearly the blacker of these two neighboring ancient civilizations? Plus much of Egypt’s culture came from Nubia.
LOL “Copper-skinned”
the acceptable color that whites will condone when they don’t want to say the color black.
Did you pick that up at walmart in a can?
White people are always spraying themselves orange thinking they look “golden and glowing.” LOL
Whenever white people don’t want to say black they will say mixed or tanned. LOL
The Egyptians were black people and white people just want to take credit for Ancient Egyptian achievements by re-writing history to suit their superiority complex.
White people approach the Egyptians the same way they approach the identity of Jesus Christ.
They will say ” oh Jesus had a tan skin”
because they don’t want to say Jesus was black or african.
I would like to ask, why do we care as black people. what white people thought the Egyptians were. Is it that we have the same perceptions of sub-Saharan Africans?
Jesus was not black. Virtually nobody in that region of the world at that time(or even now) was black.
on Thu Dec 24th 2009 at 21:13:25 nicia
Hi Tulio
that’s not true. the bible in the new testatment speaks of a high official in the roman court that one of the apostles spoke to after jesus died
it specifically says ethiopian eunich…he was preached to and baptised. He was not a eunich in the physical sense but it also meant someone who had a high position..
READ ACTS CHAPTER 8
Tulio,
there was a recent discovery of Cleopatra’s sister’s bones.
DNA testing showed that her mother was AFRICAN
This was reported on by the BBC (Britsh Broadcasting Corporation)
pleaseread below
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/1/hi/also_in_the_news/7945333.stm
National geographic had a recent article entitled THE BLACK PHAROAHS. as well as documenting the racist attitudes of the archeologists (by smashing off the African features of the statues) and covering/minimizing any evidence of positive African presence
on Thu Dec 24th 2009 at 22:03:29 Ensayn
Dr. Cheik Anta Diop postulates the Yourba of today are quite possibly the Yourpa of Ancient Egypt spoken of by the Ancient Greeks.
The Dogon of Mali are known to be physically related to the Ancient Egyptians.
As stated in this post the Ancient Egyptians referred to themselves as Khemetans (Blacks). I have once read that “others” call Khemet the land of black soil. I’ve come to understand Khemet to mean the “Land of the Black’s”. If it were black soil alone why would they refer to themselves as Khemetans?
on Fri Dec 25th 2009 at 03:18:57 tulio
As for the “Khemet land of the blacks” matter, remember that the word “black” is sociological concept that doesn’t mean the same thing across various cultures and times. In Russia, they refer to people from central Asia(all those “-istan” countries) as “blacks”. People from Ireland with dark hair and eyes refer to themselves as “Black Irish”. In both cases we’re talking about Caucasian people being referred to as blacks. In the U.S., we have a definition of black that means anybody with any degree of recognizable sub-saharan African ancestry.
So do we know what concept that ancient Egyptians used the world black?
on Fri Dec 25th 2009 at 12:15:52 Mira
About Khemet. Khemet was the name of their land (country), that’s how they called Egypt. “Khemet”, strictly speaking, means “black land”. Black (fertile) as the opposite of red (infertile) land. It has nothing to do with skin colour.
There isn’t anything in the Egyptian sources that indicates that “black” in their land name means “black people” in today’s (racial) meaning of the word.
This doesn’t mean Egyptians weren’t black. It means they didn’t have “race” as a cultural category.
Race isn’t biological, it’s cultural category. It’s not “natural” to think about race, it’s cultural. Many cultures, especially the Ancient ones (Egyptians, Greeks) didn’t have “race” as a category. So why would they name themselves “black” if that didn’t mean anything to them?
on Fri Dec 25th 2009 at 13:15:51 Pedlyde
Some people love to claim Egypt was black with no evidence to back it up.Ordinarily, if someone has a theory which involves a radical departure from what the experts have professed, he is expected to defend his position by providing evidence in its support. But no one seemed to think it was appropriate to ask for evidence from the instructors who claimed that the Greeks stole their philosophy from Egypt.
For example, until recently, no one ever asked whether Cleopatra might have had an African ancestor, because our surviving ancient sources identify her as a Macedonian Greek. Her ancestors, the Ptolemies, were descended from one of Alexander’s generals. After Alexander’s death in 323 B. C., these generals divided up among themselves the territory in the Mediterranean that Alexander had conquered. The name Cleopatra was one of the names traditionally given to women in the royal family; officially our Cleopatra (69-30 BC) was Cleopatra VII, the daughter of Ptolemy XII and his sister. Cleopatra VII herself followed the family practice of marrying within the family. She married her two brothers (Ptolemy XIII and XIV) in succession (after the first died in suspicious circumstances, she had the second murdered). Her first language was Greek; but she was also the first member of the Ptolemaic line who was able to speak Egyptian. She also wore Egyptian dress, and was shown in art in the dress of the goddess Isis. She chose to portray herself as an Egyptian not because she was Egyptian, but because she was ambitious to stay in power. In her surviving portraits on coins and in sculpture she appears to be impressive rather than beautiful, Mediterranean in appearance, with straight hair and a hooked nose. Of course these portraits on metal and stone give no indication of the color of her skin.
The only possibility that she might not have been a full-blooded Macedonian Greek arises from the fact that we do not know the precise identity of one member of her family tree. We do not know who her grandmother was on her father’s side. Her grandmother was the mistress (not the wife) of her grandfather, Ptolemy IX. Because nothing is known about this person, the assumption has always been that she was a Macedonian Greek, like the other members of Ptolemy’s court. Like other Greeks, the Ptolemies were wary of foreigners. They kept themselves apart from the native population, with brothers usually marrying sisters, or uncles marrying nieces, or in one case a father marrying his daughter (Ptolemy IX and Cleopatra Berenice III). Because the Ptolemies seemed to prefer to marry among themselves, even incestuously, it has always been assumed that Cleopatra’s grandmother was closely connected with the family. If she had been a foreigner, one of the Roman writers of the time would have mentioned it in their invectives against Cleopatra as an enemy of the Roman state. These writers were supporters of Octavian (later known as Augustus) who defeated Cleopatra’s forces in the battle of Actium in 31 B.C.
The question of race matters only insofar as it is necessary to show that no classicists or ancient historians have tried to conceal the truth about the origins of the Greek people or the ancestry of certain famous ancient figures. It has been suggested that classicists have been reluctant to ask questions about Greek origins, and that we have been so “imbued with conventional preconceptions and patterns of thought” that we are unlikely to question the basic premises of our discipline. But even though we may be more reluctant to speculate about our own field than those outside it might be, none of us has any cultural “territory” in the ancient world that we are trying to insulate from other ancient cultures.
on Fri Dec 25th 2009 at 19:20:27 anonymous
@pedlyde…Cleopatra was only part black. Probably 20%-50%. In other words she was more than likely bi-racial. We aren’t discussing Cleopatra, but the origins of Egypt. Egypt was around for much, much longer than the reign of Cleopatra. The later quarter of Egypt was ruled by Greeks/Macedonians. We aren’t arguing that point.
You said it yourself..she tried to appear Egyptian to stay in power. The fact that she wore braided wigs and dark makeup is a clue, albeit a small one, to know who she was was trying to emulate. If none of us have any cultural “territory” in the ancient world why did whites find it necessary to claim they were white from the start instead of stating that they weren’t sure.
@Mira…I agree race is a fairly new concept. Of course, Ancient Egyptians wouldn’t consider themselves black; they didn’t call they land they lived on Africa either. As aforementioned above, it wasn’t ‘black’ people as their known today that depicted Ancient Egyptians as blue-eyed ‘white’ people. Once ‘white’ dominated Hollywood decided to portray them that way these debates started. The bottom line is that Hollywood and Historians had no business creating these inaccurate images and perceptions in the first place.
on Fri Dec 25th 2009 at 20:48:17 Herneith
They kept themselves apart from the native population, with brothers usually marrying sisters, or uncles marrying nieces, or in one case a father marrying his daughter (Ptolemy IX and Cleopatra Berenice III).
No, this was a tradition going back thousands of years in ancient Egypt among the royal families. Perhaps they were following these traditions. If they wished to keep themselves apart from the native populace, they would have married other Macedonians or Greeks, not incestuously. The pharaoh had to marry a daughter or female of the direct line of the previous pharaoh in order to legitimize his claim. He didn’t necessarily have to be ‘royal’ to do this. There are many such examples through Egyptian history. Towards the end of the 18th dynasty for example, Horemhab became pharaoh, and he had previously been a general with no discernible blood relation to the royal family.
The question of race matters only insofar as it is necessary to show that no classicists or ancient historians have tried to conceal the truth about the origins of the Greek people or the ancestry of certain famous ancient figures.
This post isn’t about the origins of ancient Greeks. It’s about Ancient Egyptians. Nobody questions the origins of the Greeks(funny that), however they go into high dudgeon when questioning the race of Ancient Egyptians. Why is this? Then you get the ones who say there was no notion of race as there is today. This is true to a certain extent, however they did have a notions of race but this was for descriptive reasons. If you read some of the ancient authors, they do ascribe certain characteristics to groups in particular, fellow European ones. The Egyptians while seeing themselves as a distinct group, would be the equivalent of Europeans seeing themselves as French, Germans, Swedes etc. They are all ‘white’ however. The ancient Greeks referred to Africa as ‘Ethiopia’ which encompassed Nubia, Meroe, Cush, Aksum etc. The author of this post is states clearly:
The less-simple answer is to apply American ideas of race to ancient Egypt, something that people have been doing since the early 1800s.The simple answer, of course, is that no one in Ancient Egypt was black: “black” is an American social construct, something made up to make men into slaves, even those who are mostly European by blood.
He goes on to state:
The less-simple answer is to apply American ideas of race to ancient Egypt, something that people have been doing since the early 1800s.The less-simple answer is to apply American ideas of race to ancient Egypt, something that people have been doing since the early 1800s.
This is what is being discussed. The question of the Ancient Egyptian’s appearance has been racialized and politicized. For some reason, it was, is hard for many people to accept this. Africans come in many shades and don’t conform to one particular phenotype. It is therefore not inconceivable that the Ancient Egyptians were black, especially if you apply today’s litmus test(North American) to what constitutes ‘black’. What I find disconcerting are those who feel a need to explain this away using either a colour blind ‘mixed’ explanation or something else. Funny how they don’t do this for Greeks, as it is presumed that they were mostly ‘white’. Yet they go all ape feces when something to the contrary is posited. They demand ‘proof’. Well proof is subjective within this discipline, and no, I am not claiming they are black. I find it amusing when they start carrying on as if they have been personally insulted. It can’t be put down to solely proof etc. If that were it, then they would just ignore it as most people will believe what they want, they wouldn’t really care. They would carry on with their proofs and scholarship.
Excellent post!
Nobody questions the origins of the Greeks
They (we) do, actually. Like with any other culture, we aren’t quite certain about their origins. We know a lot, but not enough.
Then you get the ones who say there was no notion of race as there is today. This is true to a certain extent, however they did have a notions of race but this was for descriptive reasons.
True. Ancient people weren’t blind or colourblind. They could see someone’s skin tone, hair or eyes. However, those were treated as mere physical facts. If there was something “unusual” about a foreign person, Ancient writers noted, but that was usually something about clothes, language and customs.
To some cultures, language was the most important factor that divided the world into “us” and “them”. “We” speak Greek. “They” (barbarians) do not. Physical differences, such as skin tone was noted, but usually treated as no more important than today’s notion of hair colour among white people (ok, this one has light brown hair, and that one red; no big deal).
I have a post on whether Cleopatra was black:
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2009/12/23/was-cleopatra-black/
on Sat Dec 26th 2009 at 01:19:38 Hathor
What some of you forget, is that color is also an adaptation, not necessarily from any mixture. Lets say that in different regions of Africa, perhaps 20,000 year ago, color separated along the latitude with reference to the equator. It didn’t mean that the features were any different, over time the features changed from the predominance of certain families, which gave somewhat slight differences in appearances, but not necessarily color. It is highly doubtful the early man was as dark as some would think, because his environment was in a temperate zone. As man migrated and without the benefits of some technologies to protect his skin, melanin helped protect him from the environment. Otherwise why would some Indians and indigenous Australians be very dark. Later on color became less important in mans survival and there was less selection for color as man migrated.
The Egyptians, 10000 years ago could have very well have been the same people as the Nubians.
on Sat Dec 26th 2009 at 11:23:35 anonymous
@Mira….It’s true that we don’t know everything about Ancient Greece, but very, very rarely does anyone question what race they were. They may question their customs, religions, mathematics, etc., but never their race. You never hear black people claiming Greece or Rome, but many euro-centric scholars feel they can white-wash Egypt.
on Sat Dec 26th 2009 at 13:30:31 Mira
I never hear the Greeks being questioned, the Greeks are considered default white by white people.
Yes, they are questioned. I don’t know why you never hear about it; perhaps Egypt is more interesting to general public. Read Black Athena if you’re interested in this problem.
However, with Greeks, we have the same problem as with Egyptians. Race didn’t mean anything in their world. They separated world into “us” and “them” based on language. If you weren’t speaking Greek, you were a barbarian. However, there were barbarians and barbarians. Some of them were treated as really inferior and barely human. Others, such as Egyptians and Romans, while still barbarians, were seen in more positive light.
And the great Greek debate actually already hapened. Remember, not all white people are the same. Some of them believe to be superior to the others. During the 18th and 19th century, people of western Europe learned Ancient Greece was cradle of European civilizations. So they went to Greece (who was under Otomans at the time), and they were disgusted. Instead of noble, white, wise men they saw the ugly Greek peasants. Those “ugly” Greek peasants were still white, but they were darker (darker skin and hair), of poor inferior culture. British people (and people of western Europe) could not believe these pathetic beingh were the descendants (is that the right word?) of those noble Ancient philosophers and scientists! So they said- these peasants are not true Europeans, we are! Ancient Greece wasn’t cradle of their civilization, it’s ours. So they stole (more or less) the heritage, and sometimes I think literally, they stole monuments and moved them to western Europe, because, you know, modern Greeks are unworhty the great Ancient Greek culture. They are not truly Europeans.
So the point is, whether Ancient Greeks were black as people of Western Africa or simply darker whites like todays Greeks, isn’t really important. The decision was already made- Ancient Greeks were like western Europeans.
on Sat Dec 26th 2009 at 18:29:36 PM
The second century AD Roman writer Arrian compared Indians, Ethiopians and Egyptians in his “Anabasis Alexandri”:
“The appearance of the inhabitants, too, is not so far different in India and Ethiopia; the southern Indians resemble the Ethiopians a good deal, and are black of countenance, and their hair black also, only they are not as snub-nosed or so woolly-haired as the Ethiopians; but the northern Indians are most like the Egyptians in appearance.”
on Mon Dec 28th 2009 at 15:02:40 lucia
“White people are control freaks they always need to be manipulating something or somebody because it comes with their superiority complex.”
please do not generalize all white people. how would you feel if someone made your comment as above but substituted all the ‘white people’ for ‘black people’.
As a person of mixed race origin(3/4 white 1/4 black)
I don’t think its ok to generalize any race as being something or something else.
on Mon Dec 28th 2009 at 16:20:17 jeri
,When I think of the Ancient Egyptians I think that they were probrably an unmixed black civilization in the beginning. Then, as time progressed, they became more mixed but you would still consider them black just a little lighter. I mean most African-Americans are mostly black with a small amount of white european ancestry. African Americans come in all shades but they are still black. The picture that Tulio provided where it showed the Libyans, Nubians, and then Ancient Egyptians proved to me what I believed all along. The Egyptian man still looks black just slightly lighter than the Nubian. He does not look white and he doesn’t look half white but he looks like a black man who might be slightly mixed like the typical African American. I think the only reason why you see so many lightskinned Egytians today is because of the huge amount of Arabs who left the middle east shortly after so many Middle Easterners were converted to Islam. They traveled all over the world and took over many different nations such as those in North Africa. The people that lived in South America 500 years were the red men. But they were conquered by the Spanish and now many of the people are mestizos, some are pure indian, and some are mostly Spanish. That does not mean that the Ancient Mayans, Incas, and Actzecs weren’t red. It just means they were eventually conquered and now the appearance of South America has changed somewhat. That is what could have happened to Ancient Egypt. The people could have resembled African Americans and, after being conquered by the Arabs, their appearance has now changed. And it sounds to me that the dna test have proven it. The modern egyptian is a mixture of Arabic and African. I don’t know. That is just my theory.
Also, I want to make a comment to the man who said something about how is it possible for the Ancient Egyptians to be black yet blacks lagg behind so badly today. There are many nations that were once great but because hostile forces took over and robbed that nation of its resources, they are now in poverty. For the past 500 years Africa has been robbed of its resources. And one of its greatest resouces was the people themselves. Slavery robbed Africa of millions of its people. Also, slavery caused Africans to fight other Africans. A house divided against itself cannot stand. Africa is still suffering because of slavery and colonization by Europeans. The same thing happened to the Native Americans. So its very possible.
on Mon Dec 28th 2009 at 16:56:28 J
Here is a scholarly analysis:
The ‘Table of Nations’ Scene in the Tomb of Ramses 3
by Manu Apim
http://manuampim.com/ramesesIII.htm
on Tue Dec 29th 2009 at 16:31:00 dimples
Thank you J for posting the manuampim website. This site show the fakeness and malnipulation by whites & Arabs. How they falsified the tombs and everything so they can try to EARASE the black faces of the ORIGINAL Egyptian. Egyptian came from the south. Which means they came from SUDAN & ETHIOPIA. Not GREECE. They are the ones who brought so much creativity, education, writing, art, math, and so much more to Egypt. As a matter of fact, Greece/Rome got its civilization from Egypt. The Greeks and Romans came to Egypt as students. Then, turned on the Egyptian and used ALL of what they learned FROM the Egyptian against them. This is ( I believe) how Rome left their mark on Egypt.
The reason why black people lagg behind so bad today is because most of it has alot to do with how whites kept blacks back for so long. And it starts with slavery. The master mind of malnipulation and whitewashing black folks mind starts with how the white man did his damage to the black race. The other part is blamed on black people themselves for continuing to hold on to what the white man taught blacks for sooooo long. So everytime I hear how some white person say something like why blacks lagg this or lagg that, I say its because of racism. Whites know more about our people then we know about oursevles and that is why (for the most part) black people lagg so much. Cause YT haled/hold us back and so do our own.
Black people can do anything and everything they want as long as they put their minds to it without the ignorance of racist cowards who discrminate against blacks.
on Tue Dec 29th 2009 at 17:43:43 Mira
@dimples
I can’t open photos on that site. 😦
I know you’re going to hate me for this, but: Egyptians would never never show themselves identical to another, foreign people.
So, if the black figure on the left (A) is an Egyptian, so is the other black figure (C). If C is Nubian, so is A. Same skin tone, same hairstyle, same clothes. Those are the same people.
Also, nobody said Egyptians came from Greece. That’s nonsense.
I agree with the second comment.
on Wed Dec 30th 2009 at 16:02:31 dimples
Mira, try googling manuampim.com.
on Wed Dec 30th 2009 at 16:13:19 Mira
I will. I found the site. There are some articles I’d like to read.
on Wed Dec 30th 2009 at 20:58:58 Ali
This is a major topic of Senegalese professor Cheikh Anta Diop studies.
Cheikh Anta Diop is famous and world renowned egyptolog and race issues related in Egypt
Check for his books on Amazon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheikh_Anta_Diop#The_Egyptians_as_a_Black_population
on Wed Dec 30th 2009 at 22:04:37 jefflion
I am familiar with his work. I just wanted to read more about those “Table of nations” interpretations. Still doesn’t make sense to me, since it contradicts with everything we know about Ancient Egypt and all the other sources.
Ok, I have NO idea why previous comment was posted under “jefflion”. In any case, this is me.
on Wed Dec 30th 2009 at 22:58:54 J
Sometimes, well in fact most of the time, it can be very hard to change one’s way of thinking, if you are predisposed to think in a certain way.
Perhaps you did not mean this – and maybe you may want to correct me here.
I had always thought the representation of the table of nations is agreed upon by scholars that it represents
4 ‘races’.
If this is accepted, then the Egyptians cannot represent themselves twice and it still be a table of nation, of 4 races.
Or did you mean something else here?
on Mon Jan 4th 2010 at 09:35:08 J
And still on the issue of representation…
“These paintings from the tomb of Huy, the Egyptian governor of Nubia during the reign of King Tutankhamun (1336–1327 BC), pictures Nubians bringing tribute for Egypt’s pharaoh.
The scene shows a wide variety of Nubians. Some are in Egyptian dress, including a woman riding in a cart. Others, including children, appear in Nubian dress.
The skin color of the Nubian men ranges from dark red to brown to black; skin tones for some of the women are lighter”.
http://oi.uchicago.edu/museum/nubia/huy.html
on Mon Jan 4th 2010 at 23:07:41 Kat
New Discovery has been found
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/284891#tab=comments&sc=0&contribute=&local=
Thanks Kat!
on Tue Jan 12th 2010 at 12:53:00 J
The Egyptian Race According to the Classical Authors of Antiquity – ie those who saw them in the flesh, and wrote the following
1. Heredotus -480 (?) to -425 BCE
‘It is in fact manifest that the Colchidians (ie around Armenia, Eastern Europe of the Black Sea) are Egyptian by race…I had conjectured as much myself from two pointers, firstly they have black skin and kinky hair…’
and again in a different instance he sugegsts:
‘…and when they add that the dove was black they give us to understand that the woman was Egyptian’
2. Aristotle -389 to -332 BCE
‘Those who are too black are cowards, like for instance the Egyptians and Ethiopians. But those who are excessively White are also coward as we can see from the example of women, the complexion of courage is between the two’
3. Lucian 125 -190 CE
‘ Lycinus: This boy is not merely black; he has thick lips and his legs are too thin…his hair worn in a plait behind shows that he is a freeman.
Timolaus: But that is a sign of really distinguished birth in Egypt, Lycinus…’
4. Aeschylus -525(?) to – 456 BCE, tragic poet and creator of Greek tragedy
‘I can see the crew with their black limbs and white tunics’ taken from The Suppliants describing the Aegyptiads
5. Achilles Tatius of Alexandria
Same source as in 4, verse 745. He compares the herdsmen of the Delta to the Ethiopians that they are blackish
6. Strabo -58 BCE – 25 CE
He concurs in the theory that the Egyptians and Colchidians are of the same race (by a process of migration). Later he seeks elsewhere to explain why the Egyptians are darker than Hindus
7. Appollonius of Tyre
….describing Zeno son of Mnaseas or Demeas was a native of Citum in Cyprus says of him that he was gaunt, very tall and black, hence the fact according to
8. Chrysippus in the First Book of his Proverbs
Certain people called him an Egyptian vine shoot
9. Ammianus Marcellius 33- 100 CE Latin historian
‘…the men of Egypt are mostly brown or black with a skinny and dessicated look’.
With Marcellinius we reach the sunset of the Roman Empire and the end of classical antiquity. There are about 900 years between the birth of Aeschylus and Heredotus to the death of Marcellinus., 900 years during the Egyptians, amid a sea of white races steadily cross-bred.
It can be said that without exaggeration that in Egypt one household in ten included a White Asiaitic or Indo-European slave.
It is remarkable that, despite its itensity, all this crossbreeding should not have succeeeding in upsetting the racial constants..This cursory review of teh evidence of teh Graeco-Latin writers on the Egyptians’ race shows taht the extent of agreement between them is impressive and is an objective fact difficult to minimise or conceal….
Great African Thinkers Vo1, On Cheikh Anta Diop, by Ivan Van Sertima (ed) p.42
on Wed Feb 3rd 2010 at 11:07:24 J
If it is Zahi Hawas who is in charge of the findings then do not expect to hear that King Tut-ankh-amun is of African/Black origin.
Since he has made his Arabo-centric position clear in the past.
We shall see ey??
on Wed Feb 3rd 2010 at 11:13:58 Aiyo
Yeah I am kind of weary of who is doing it since we know how racist historians write the books and change the facts for their own purposes. so I am with you J we shall wait and see.
on Wed Feb 3rd 2010 at 14:19:48 Mira
Thanks for the article. I had no idea they’re doing DNA testing.
However, don’t expect any revolutionary results concerning race. Since race isn’t a biological fact, it’s really difficult- or impossible- to reveal it using DNA testing.
The results could help us know a little more about his parents or his way of life. Maybe even his appearance. So perhaps it would be possible to make more accurate models of his appearance. So people could judge his features and decide whether he was black or mixed or brown. Remember, race is social. So whatever we may think of it, it’s not the same thing he thought about himself. His race was Egyptian.
With regard to Diop’s thoughts:
“It is remarkable that, despite its itensity, all this crossbreeding should not have succeeeding in upsetting the racial constants..This cursory review of the evidence of the Graeco-Latin writers on the Egyptians’ race shows that the extent of agreement between them is impressive and is an objective fact difficult to minimise or conceal….
Here are a few faces from Roman Egypt from the 1st century onwards”
Fayoum Mummy Portraits
http://www.egyptologyonline.com/mummy_portraits.htm
There is another side to all this viz. that studying history in fact may paradoxically tell you more about the present than it does actually past, Something you spoke very well when you were speaking on bias (ie formulation of hypotheses etc).
So whatever the findings??
It is still possible for the investigator to say he believes that Tutankhamun looks like a present day ‘Arab’ (or like Hawas) himself. Its possible he could say the King was Caucasian and/or Black irrespective if race is social, and there was a different concept to race back then in history.
I think this is what people are waiting to hear…
What will he say about the King’s appearance/identity/race etc from a modern 21st century perspective, irrespective of all the other ambiguities, if you follow??
I am one of those people who believe it’s impossible to tell “how black was Ancient Egypt” (or any its people), because, well, race didn’t exist in their time.
What we think about Tuthankamon’s race is irrelevant to who he was and how he identified himself. It has nothing to do with studying Ancient Egypt.
On the other hand, in today’s world, race issues are important, so various scholars will- no doubt about it- try to prove his race was whatever they seem appropriate (Black scholars will claim his DNA proves he was black, Arabs that he was brown (Middle Eastern), whites that he was white). You can’t really prove any of these claims false, because race isn’t a biological fact.
I personally believe Ancient Egyptians looked like todays blacks mixed with Middle Eastern people- darker than Arabs (and certainly darker than “regular” whites- not that Arabs aren’t white, but you know what I mean), but lighter than blacks.
But it means nothing, absolutely nothing, because race didn’t exist as a concept in their time. In their time, there were only two groups of people: people (Egyptians) and foreigners (and there were 3 groups of foreigners: Aamu (Asiatic peoples- mainly from Levant), Nubians and Libyans). Egyptians wouldn’t want to be associated with Nubians or Asiatic people (in today’s meaning of the word: blacks and Arabs), so in that sense, claiming they were “black”, “brown” or “white” is an insult to them and it’s anachronistic.
“So whatever we may think of it, it’s not the same thing he thought about himself. His race was Egyptian.”
Finally this point is very important and again raises the issues on perspectives.
When we study ‘history’ (and we going back into that thing of social sciences)’. We are actually studying it from our ‘perspective’ and not from the agents we are studying
So for instance there are some individuals who like to take the identity of the ‘Moors’ (ie 20th century conception) but failing to realise or know that the Moors helped to destroy the Ghanian empire (16th century reality).
It can all be confusing sometime – but I think your point about him being Egyptian would be the correct definition, and one he would have given to himself if we could bring him here into the 21 century
Oh what a tangled web we weave – Walter Scott
I do not know if you are aware of the African centred position of some regarding the issue of ‘race’.
Some would suggest ‘race’ is a reality but because of the destruction ‘race’ caused in World War 2 where Whites who up to then had suppressed the world on the basis of skin colour, now began supressing themselves.
And also because of the study of Egyptology slowly moving from the position that Egypt was a Caucasian civilization, then to a mixed civilization and now it is tentatively moving towards that it is an indigeneous ‘African society’ no different to any other on the continent…
Then these are some of the factors why some scholars want to move away from the concept of ‘race’.
Since in a way its a manoeuvre to still deny the humanity of Black people and keep them out of the history books…
on Wed Feb 3rd 2010 at 17:37:32 frustrated guy
I think ancient Egyptians looked pretty similar to modern Egyptians.
I am, in a way. For my last course on Ancient Egypt archaeology, I wrote a paper on Afrocentrism and its connections to studying Ancient Egypt.
I don’t deny race and its impact for the world in the past few centuries. Ancient Egypt should be recognized as an African civilization, and black (and non-black) kids all over the world should learn about its greatness in more honest light.
However, scholars (egyptologists, archaeologists, anthropologists, historians) should know better. They must know the difference between biological fact and social construct, for a start.
PS-Asking right questions and re-examining old concepts about past is always a good thing. Take Ancient Greece (my filed of work) for example. It’s taken for granted that this was the first European civilization, its cradle, and the base for modern western civilization. But was that really true? Was Ancient Greece European (in today’s sense of the word)? No way. I am not saying people of Ancient Greece wasn’t Caucasian (despite some Afrocentric claims, there aren’t any proofs of them not being white)- but they weren’t European in today’s sense of the word, and they wouldn’t like to be associated with some barbarians (today’s UK, Germany, America…)
on Wed Feb 3rd 2010 at 19:29:22 Jade
J said:Then these are some of the factors why some scholars want to move away from the concept of ‘race’.
Since in a way its a maneuver to still deny the humanity of Black people and keep them out of the history books…
Can I say that Afrocentrics do not believe Greece is not a Caucasian civilisation.
Their position is that prior to the Caucasian influx into the Aegan region Black/African types existed their first.
However, the way Afrocentrics are projected as a monolith, and slightly skewed by Western academia.
Its hard to get quite get a true representation of their ideas.
Here is a link. i will be honest seen it before but I have not read it but I think this is the position of Afrocentrics (remebering as with any groups tehre will be differing strands)
http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-black-greeks-by-prof-clyde-winters/
As for Greece having nothing to do with Western civilisation in the you describe, all I can say is that you are totally correct.
Furthermore the Romans used to look down on Caucasians from France and Britain but yet we talk of a Graeco-Roman tradition for the West. What can be said for the Greece can also be said for teh West.
The Western tradition in essece is Celtic. Roman tradition came in as colonialist/conquerors…
Its all very confusing – when you begin to think on these levels.
Forgive the typing errors above – still no good a multi-tasking ha ha ha…Please use your imagination to fill in the blanks and/or appropriate blanks
on Mon Feb 8th 2010 at 10:01:58 Othello
Compared to other blogs I have seen about the race of ancient egyptians this one has more mature arguments and everyone seems willing to learn new things, I know I have. Some of the blogs on ancient egyptians get really nasty and racist and made me sick, i hope these mature debates continue. On the race of the ancient greeks I am no expert on this topic but I remember watching a documentary on the minoans of crete. There are paintings of brownish red skinned men holding hands with pale european women. One of the rulers of crete was potrayed with reddish brown skin. These were not reconstructions but paintings found on the walls. To me the style of paintings resembled that of the ancient egyptians. On the race of the ancient egyptians I understand Mira’s point about not being familiar with the jim crow laws.What annoys me is when some(not all) white american historians do not apply this rule when determing the race of the ancient egyptians. It makes me question their intentions. Despite having a white mother, most americans consider obama to be black. In the table of nations, even though the egyptians are lighter than the nubians they are much darker than obama or tiger woods and would be classified as african american. I also like the comment Mira made about greeks history being claimed by western europeans. This is exactly what happens. In america greek immigrants were looked down upon in the 19th and 20th centuries but their ancient history was quickly claimed by anglo saxons. Most hollywood movies use anglo saxons to play greeks or romans why do they do that? Is it not a method of stealing other people’s history like they do with ancient egypt?
on Mon Feb 8th 2010 at 11:12:43 Mira
On the race of the ancient greeks I am no expert on this topic but I remember watching a documentary on the minoans of crete.
Minoans of Crete were not Greeks and don’t have anything to do with them, except the fact Greeks adopted some of their culture.
There are paintings of brownish red skinned men holding hands with pale european women. One of the rulers of crete was potrayed with reddish brown skin. These were not reconstructions but paintings found on the walls. To me the style of paintings resembled that of the ancient egyptians.
Skin colour potrayed on paintings don’t mean much in determining one’s race, especially if you compare males and females in the same society. Males were always portrayed as darker; someone with “reddish brown skin” holding hands with “pale European woman” is not involved in an interracial relationship- it’s a woman of his own group.
Most hollywood movies use anglo saxons to play greeks or romans why do they do that? Is it not a method of stealing other people’s history like they do with ancient egypt?
Yes, but movies are not our main problem. When will British give back to Greeks many treasures they took from the Athens? Why would western Europeans and Americans claim Ancient Greece as cradle of their civilization, but still see today’s Greeks as somewhat inferior. Or, if you really want to talk about movies, why did Colin Farrel, of all people, played Alexander the Great? (Arguably, not a Greek, but he was horribly miscast. And then “some” people complained about actress who is part black playing Roxana).
on Mon Feb 8th 2010 at 14:08:22 J
This is one of the problems for Western history. How do you explain the continuity between Minoans of Crete and Greek civilisation.
Notwithstanding the issue of where did the Greeks in fact originate from since they are not indigenous??
With regard to the issue of looking at paintings etc and deducing race, ethnicity (ie anthro-photo-history).
There is a tradition within Western academia to deny the veridical representation of the portrait whenever it does not denote a Western ‘racial’ type
e.g the red skin type of the Egyptian, the prognathism (ie protuding jaw) of the sphinx, the African plaits in the Olmec head.
It is at this point the artwork becomes ‘symbolic’ etc.
So this important fact cannot be overlooked
on Wed Feb 17th 2010 at 18:14:49 J
So the mystery is solved…well not teh one here perhaps.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700006083/Egypt-to-soon-announce-King-Tut-DNA-test-results.html
king Tut’s DNA is being tested.
It does not appear well at least from this London newspaper that race was ever being tested.
Tutankhamun: now we know who the mummy’s mummy was: Secrets of Egyptian boy king’s lineage and cause of death unearthed
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/news/tutankhamun-now-we-know-who-the-mummys-mummy-was-1901730.html
…unless anyone else can provide us with further information…
on Sat Feb 20th 2010 at 06:27:54 Cpt
Ancient Egyptians are more or less the same as modern Egyptians. Yes, there has been a lot of migration into Egypt from outside since ancient times. But if you look at a lot of modern Egyptians, they have a distinctive appearance that is similar to the ancient drawings and sculptures. Assassinated President Anwar El Sadat, for example, had those type of distinctive features. As abagond pointed out, Egyptians definitely qualify as black under the standard American definition.
However the links between the Nile Valley (Egypt, Nubia, etc.) and West Africa (where black Americans’ ancestors originated) are very tenuous. Afrocentric scholars who focus on Egypt are neglecting the history of other parts of the continent. I understand the appeal of ancient Egyptian history but there is more to African history than Egypt.
on Sat Feb 20th 2010 at 09:54:22 Aiyo
@Cpt
I know Egypt has been so romanticised in the west. The BBC had a series called The Lost Kingdoms of Africa the explored places like Nubia, Ethiopia, kingsoms in West Africa like the Benin empire and all that if was a really nice documentary. The thing that was repeated in the series was that the Europeans could not belive that they all of these wonderful artifacts were made by the so called “primitive dark backwards Africans.”
With regard to the late President Sadat he was a mixture of Nubian (mother) and Arab father). It has been said of him that he tried to negate his African/Nubian/Black identity
on Fri Mar 19th 2010 at 22:38:11 Ankhesen
You really think so? I’ve found otherwise.
on Mon Mar 22nd 2010 at 16:34:46 poetess
If the Egyptians are 40% black african and originated from the South in Ethiopia, I think the answer is clear. The Egyptians are, were, and have always been black. In fact, they’re as black as most African Americans I would say.
I don’t know if any of you have seen the Tut exhibit, but I have. I was just a kid when it rolled through Seattle, but let me tell you the busts of the folk looked just like the black people I’d been seeing all my life!
The lobby of the museum where they were selling the “look alike” merchandise of Tut however was a different story. Aqualine noses, pale skin. I was confused. Obviously there has been a concerted effort to downplay the “blackness” or Africaness of Egypt.
on Mon Mar 22nd 2010 at 16:44:54 J
Here are the comments Mira.
Take Ancient Greece (my filed of work) for example. It’s taken for granted that this was the first European civilization, its cradle, and the base for modern western civilization. But was that really true? Was Ancient Greece European (in today’s sense of the word)? No way. I am not saying people of Ancient Greece wasn’t Caucasian (DESPITE SOME AFROCENTRIC CLAIMS)…”
on Mon Mar 22nd 2010 at 17:05:13 Mira
That is only one comment, lol. 🙂
I don’t see what’s problem with that. I never said “Afrocentrics claim Greece was black”. I said that yes, some do not consider Greek people to be white (Caucasian). Also, some (including me) do not consider Greek civilization to be “European” in the western sense of the word (while geographically, yes, Greece is an European civilization). I don’t understand what’s the problem here.
The main “guilty as charged” here is Martin Bernal. True, the man never considered himself to be afrocentric, and as far as I can tell, you don’t consider him afrocentric either (is it because he’s white?) However, that doesn’t change the fact his ideas abut Egypt and Greece and considering history from African POV and can be view as Afrocentric.
Do you mind if I ask, are you a scholar or a just a person interested in afrocentrism? It’s not the same. I’m saying this not to attack you, but because it really seems you don’t understand how afrocentrism or eutrocentrism or any of the humanities work.
However, since you are interested in afrocentricm, I am sure you know Afrocentric is not a single movement or paradigm. Basically, all it means is “from African POV”. That’s all. (That is why some people suspect if black westerners, or Africans educated on the west/in western schools can truly be afrocentric). In any case, afrocentrism is, I am sure you know, not an uniform school of thought (thought you sometimes treat it as it is- same goes for eurocentrism). The topics discussed, methodology and conclusions are not uniform. What one afrocentric author says doesn’t have to be equal to what another afrocentric author says or claims. That doesn’t mean one of them is truly afrocentric while another is not. Also, while afrocentrism can be seen as political or ideological movement as well as scientific, I am only interested in the social science behind it, not politics or ideology (because our today’s ideology or politics are in no way connected with the Ancient world and archaeology). You, on the other hand, seem to be more itnerested in the other two aspects of it (politics and ideology). Nothing wrong with it, but it seems topics we are mostly concerned about are not the same. Hence, miscommunication.
I am not going to go into the finer details of what you say, since I believe that will move us away from the essnce of our dialogue.
The point I was trying to get at (as in my other post) is that many of those who are trained in euro-centred academia do not understand African centred thinking. I still believe this is the case, and so much of the critique lacks ‘academic rigour’, and also distortions of those arguments. Forgive me here like Afrocentrics suggesting Greek civilization is NOT a White/Cauasian phenomenon.
As for Bernal he is attempting to show the connection between Phonecian (hence Semetic) and Egyptian influence on Western civilization.
He says something more or less like this, if I can remember correctly, that up to a period of time (I think about 1800s) Western academia recognised the contribution of the aforesaid civilization as having a profound impact on Western civilization, even more than Greece.
However, with the ‘Aryan model’, as Bernal calls it. It was necessary for the West to move to only historical connections with those who were categorically classified as ‘White/Caucasian’ and hence starting the West from Greece – but it was not always this way, according to Bernal. It is because of racism that it was necessary to create a Western histiography starting from Greece
Bernal has described himself as NOT being an African centred scholar. However, because he suggested the Egyptians were ‘Africans’. As a result the mainstream believed he was suggesting that the Egyptians were ‘Black’.
Hence they referred and classified him as ‘afrocentric’ and also to ‘demean’ him.
The point I was trying to get at (as in my other post) is that many of those who are trained in euro-centred academia do not understand African centred thinking.
That’s why I’d love to hear your explanation. (This is not sarcasm). I am aware this is not a good place for it, so we can exchange a few emails, if you like. Abagond can give you my address. I am serious. I’d like to hear more about it. But like you said, I don’t think this topic is the right place for it.
Forgive me here like Afrocentrics suggesting Greek civilization is NOT a White/Cauasian phenomenon.
I didn’t understand this. As you know, I am not a native speaker, so I really don’t have a clue what you’re saying here. Could you explain?
Not only that, he argued there were colonists from Egypt (and Levant) that colonized Greece. While he never (as far as I can remember) explicitly said whether Egyptians were Caucasian or not, he did say they colonized early Greece. If you believe Egyptians weren’t Caucasian, this means Greeks weren’t either (they were mixed). Nothing wrong with being mixed, and nothing wrong with Greeks being part African- however, here’s the problem: we can’t find any proof of those colonizations. Cultural influence, yes. But not colonization.
Exactly. According to him, in the past connections with Egypt were known and acknowledged. (He calls this “Ancient model”). But because of racism, colonialism and imperialism (since 18th century) European scholars either denied any cultural impact from Egypt, or acknowledged it, but claimed ancient Egyptians were white.
Bernal has described himself as NOT being an African centred scholar. However, because he suggested the Egyptians were ‘Africans’.
And what else could they be? Last time I checked, Egypt is not located in Scandinavia. Also, last time I checked, no “Aryans” (in lack of a better term) colonized Egypt in those days. What I do believe Egyptians weren’t as dark skinned as Nubians, but that doesn’t mean they were white. After all, no all black people have the same skin colour.
As for Bernal not thinking of himself as afrocentric- that doesn’t mean he is not afrocentric. Nothing wrong with that.
on Mon Mar 22nd 2010 at 17:45:45 Herneith
‘It was necessary for the West to move to only historical connections with those who were categorically classified as ‘White/Caucasian’ and hence starting the West from Greece – but it was not always this way, according to Bernal. It is because of racism that it was necessary to create a Western histiography starting from Greece”
Speaking of which J, have you read the book; “Ancient Egypt in Africa”?
I purchased the ebook version and have read the chapter by Bernal. Just started reading it. If you haven’t here is a link:
http://www.download-it.org/learning-resources.php?promoCode=&partnerID=&content=story&storyID=18520
http://www.scribd.com/doc/25007028/Ancient-Egypt-in-Africa
Only this much Herneith
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Zn3ViO-Vj-4C&dq=egypt+in+africa+book&printsec=frontcover&source=in&hl=en&ei=g62nS9fdE4700gS2tfXUAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=12&ved=0CDAQ6AEwCw#v=onepage&q=egypt%20in%20africa%20book&f=false
Go to the second link I gave you. You can download the book in full.
Thanks Herneith!
From the abridged parts from the link I gave you ,this looks like a very good book. Good in the sense that it is at the forefront of the ‘paradigm (theory) change’ regarding
Egypt/culture etc and this is from a Western centred perspective.
I hope the rest of the bookwill prove to be as interesting.
With regard to your points Mira.
1. Most Euro-centred scholars have NOT in fact studied the African centred position. What they have done is merely to object to the fact that Blacks are claiming what White people behaves is theirs. Its not an academic issue but one of ideology
1b. This is why African centred ideas are often mis-construed (irrespective if there are many variants). It is in the interest of the ‘powers that be’ to mis-construe and ‘mis-represent’ African centred perspectives, like Blacks were the founders of the classic Greece civilisation
2. As for Bernal I don’t think he is arguing that Egypt colonised Greece (again the type of ‘mis-conception). He suggests there was ‘contact’ between Egyptian/Phoenicians in the Levant region citing the historical records. So for instance the Greek alphabet is derived from Phoenician alphabet.
3. With regard to what else could the Egyptians be? History reveals to us that they are the ‘White Hamites’ who managed to create EVERY SINGLE civilisations on the African continent because Blacks were incapable (sic)
4. Bernal said he is NOT afrocentric because he is NOT an African centred scholar. It is not his really his aim to show that Egypt is a Black civilization.
Hope this clarifies
@J:
I downloaded a couple of more books while I was at it, LOL!
on Tue Mar 23rd 2010 at 00:06:47 Herneith
I got the same impression from reading the Bernal article in the book. This is what happens when ‘conservative’ whites write ‘afrocentrist’ books.
http://dienekes.awardspace.com/blog/archives/000114.html
I read this book a few years ago and found it interesting to say the least, notwithstanding, the author is a conservative writer otherwise!
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Spark-White-Fire-Explorers/dp/0761507582
The people on the blog refer to him as an under-cover Marxist! There is no such thing as bad publicity! To bad those posters on that blog do not realize that!
on Tue Mar 23rd 2010 at 00:16:48 J
I have not read ‘Black Spark White Fire’, one of my friend
said it is a ‘good’ read.
I see you disagree??
And what books were you downloading please. I’d like to take a look too…??
I enjoyed reading the book! The first link is to a blog responding to this book. The irony is that the author is a conservative writer otherwise. Yet they have accused him of being an under-cover Marxist! I guess they find his premise threatening. I would recommend this book.
As for the other books I downloaded? ‘Ancient Perspectives on Egypt’, ‘Never had the Like Occurred”-Egypts view of its past. Don’t laugh, the John Carter of Mars series from Edgar Rice Burroughs. There seems to be tons of books, articles, thesis, from that site. Oh, I forgot, I also downloaded an article about ancient Nubia/Cush being the precursor for Ancient Egypt. I believe that archeological digs are starting to prove this. It is no coincidence that the built the Aswan Dam thereby destroying many sites!
Thanks, I will have a greater look at those link now…
I was caught up reading Ancient Egypt in Africa, and trying to read between the lines…
Indeed the findings of Bruce Williams at the Oriental Institute do seem to corrobate that Egypt has its origins in Ethiopia (ie Inner Africa/Nubia)
Even Diodorous Siculus Greek historian wrote that the Egyptian are colonist sent out by the Ethiopians and some of the Egyptian culture is derived from there
I just had a look at the blog – ‘funny’
And I read the first three reviews of the book:
The first review was interesting because the reviewer rightly states Egypt did not become Arab until 7 AD which is over 2,500 years later of continuous history…
I just skimmed over it and the words under-cover Marxist jumped out at me. They levelled this as an insult the same way some call anyone who espouses Ancient Egypt as a black civilization as afrocentric. It is as you state, Bernal doesn’t consider himself to be an afrocentrist. However, let the evidence speak for itself. The poster who said that the Arabs didn’t arrive in Egypt until 7 AD, tell that to Hawass who claims that they were there since Egypts inception! LOL! The Ancient Greeks referred to Africa as ‘Ethiopia’.
“The poster who said that the Arabs didn’t arrive in Egypt until 7 AD, tell that to Hawass …
and also some commentators here that keep referring to present day Egyptian/Arab population as a gauge to the past…
he he sorry!!
I do agree with your comments about Marxist, but what interested me is with what passion (here read disgust) that these posters wanted to disassociate themselves from Blacks.
Well, given the history of the region, I wouldn’t be surprised if they had some black admixturehowever small coming from the Ottoman Turks, or is it the Arabs? Maybe to them the two are mutually exclusive. Now ownder Turkey is having a hard time getting into the Eupopean Union. If the Greeks have their way they won’t!
Forgive my typos.
The typos is fine…he he
This is what I did not understand
“…I wouldn’t be surprised if they had some black admixturehowever small coming from the Ottoman Turks, or is it the Arabs??”
Since the Ottoman empire spanned a huge land mass:
I was joking a little there. But seriously, there must have been admixture between the Turks and the Greeks, much the same as between the Mongols and the rest of the people in the Mongol Empire. Those clowns on that blog know this and are pi##ed off about it, LOL.
Ahh I see…Thanks!!
on Wed Mar 24th 2010 at 10:51:44 J
Can I ask you a question – and hopefully I am not being like Thad ha ha ha – So that should give you a clue to my ‘intention’ in asking the question?
So at least you have bene forewarned…
Do you believe the ancient Greeks were White/Caucasian, and if so why? If not why not?? And how would you classify them personally??
on Wed Mar 24th 2010 at 12:06:04 Eurasian Sensation
One thing that kinda bugs me is the assumption that the Egyptians had to have one dominant homogeneous phenotype. (As in, black, white, half-black and half-white, etc).
I see ancient Egyptians as being a mixed population, not just in the sense of looking like mixed black-and-white, but that there may well have been all kinds of degrees of admixture. Particularly if you consider that Egypt links two land masses, so there was probably a fair amount of movement back and forth.
Consider also, the kind of people called “black” in America today – it includes people who look like Prince or Alicia Keys and people who look like Wesley Snipes. That’s quite a range of phenotypes and genotypes – “black” is in this sense more about social construction rather than genetic classification.
I imagine ancient Egypt would have contained a variety of people, some looking like Southern Europeans, some looking like sub-Saharan Africans, and probably most looking more or less like modern Egyptians, perhaps with a little more “blackness” in their phenotype.
Another thing to consider is the descriptions of Egyptians as being “black” by writers of other ancient cultures.
While it may well have been an apt description, consider also that in many parts of the world, “black” is a term used for people who are not black in the sense that Americans would necessarily understand it.
Maori in New Zealand have often been referred to as black, as have Indians and Pakistanis, even thought their skin colour is often quite light.
So the term “black” when used by light-skinned people can sometimes refer to people who are darker than they, but by no means very dark.
South Asians often refer to themselves as “brown” in contrast to “black” people; yet many South Asians are much darker than “black” people.
Just some stuff to consider.
Eurasian,
With regard to the issue of race, we must NOT conflate our categories of today with that of the past.
For instance in the past the population of the Indian sub-continent were considered as Ethiopians by the Greeks.
Today they would NOT be classified as such. Nor would someone of Indian descent today classify himself as such, and probably many would never have been aware of such politics.
When we speak of a mixed Egyptian population, we are often caught up in Eurocentic thinking, that Blacks only have wooly hair and full lips.
However, some of the Blacks of Ethiopia, Somalia are also Black too, even if they do not fit the stereotype.
As for the opulation of SE Asia it is agreed that the Semang (Malaysia), Aeta (Phillipines) who are ‘Black’ were its irst inhabitants long before the ‘Mongoloid’ population.
Finally on the issue of race, even though it may be a ‘superfluous’ term. It is possible, in my opinion to say the Egyptians looked like ‘White Canadians’, ‘Black Barbadians or ‘Han Chinese” and so forth
And just one other thing. just to complicate matters there are Blacks Sudanese ‘darker’ than most Blacks who do NOT see themselves as African but rather Arabs.
Its our job to weave our way through all of the aforesaid
on Wed Mar 24th 2010 at 13:52:13 ColorOfLuv
To EurasianSensation —
Thus the “Black Irish” are the true Irish before the invasion of the Vikings… though they were never truely “Black”, but had darker complexions and dark hair, etc…
on Wed Mar 24th 2010 at 13:57:30 abagond
Eurasian Sensation:
I did posts on the Aeta and Negritos:
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/aeta/
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/negritos/
If we being honest ColorofLuv and this is why I asked Mira my question, about whether the Greeks were Whites/Caucasians??
All we can say, especially if we begin to use the ‘hardline semantics’ that is applied to the populace of Egypt elsewhere to ‘world’ and in particular ‘Western history’ is that the Irish are descended from ‘Celts’.
There is no ‘proof’ of them being ‘White’, ‘dark’ etc that I know of, or perhaps you may want to correct me here.
It is ‘naturally assumed’ they are ‘White’, etc
To J – I agree with you. I am not aware of “proof”, but I will do some digging. I believe it is a matter of semantics. I will try and get some more info.
Also been looking more into the Scots-Irish. (Found out there not the same as the “true” Irish either, but I digress before derailing another blog.)
As for the Greeks, Southern Europeans, Meditteranean ‘folk’, if one could play social experiments in time: Plop any random segment of population from any particular ethnic group, from any given area, at any time in history – into the Jim Crow south, my bet is that”Southern Segregated” america would categorize said group as indeed “Black”. —
I mean, we all came out of Africa and share the same forefather, right? If specific phenotypes recognizable today only STARTED appearing 20,000 years ago, then ………….. ?
on Wed Mar 24th 2010 at 14:59:07 Mira
Bernal did say Egypt and Levant colonized Greece. At least in “Black Athena”. I am not sure if he changed his opinion on this later, but yes, he did propose two types of contact between Egypt and Greece: influence and colonization. I agree on the influence, but colonization? I am afraid we don’t have any proof on this, nor did he have any proof. Egyptians never wrote anything about it, and they were never shy of talking about lands they colonized. Also, there’s nothing in the material sources that can be taken as a proof of colonization. The only source we got are, in fact, Greek sources (mainly Herodotus), who wrote about Egyptian colonization. But archaeologists were unable to find anything to support this. Herodotus is a very valuable source, but as a historical source, he’s pretty unreliable. The value of his work is more in the area of anthropology and ethnography.
And now about the Greeks.
Ancient Greeks, like Egyptians, lived in a time when race as a social category didn’t exist. Therefore, calling them “white”, “black”, “mixed” or whatever is anachronistic. Greek made distinction between “us” and “them” based on language. If you didn’t speak Greek, you were a barbarian (usually read as: lesser being). There are, however, two notable exceptions: foreigners who were, technically, barbarians (didn’t speak Greek language), but were considered “civilized” (not the word they used, but hope you understand what I mean): Egyptians and Romans.
But if we try to determine race of Greek population as viewed today, hmmm…. Well, geographically, they are in Europe. If there was any significant mix from Africa in the past (after the general “out of Africa” in prehistory), we don’t know about it. Maybe there was, but like I said, I am not sure if I buy Bernal’s argument about colonization. On the other hand, there are more evidence of colonization from the north (Balkans), so I think we could say Greek people were Caucasian. To me, Caucasian means white, but I’d say they were not “Aryan” (blonde, blue eyed, really light skinned) Caucasians. They were, I guess, more of what is considered (even today) “Mediterranean” or “dark Caucasians”. As far as I understand, some westerners argue whether those people are truly white or not. (But like I said, to me, all Caucasians belong to the same race- white).
If we take a look at their art and the way they represent themselves- well, it can be used as a proof- or not, depending on how you see it. First of all, we don’t know if they tried to present themselves realistically. Sometimes, the style used determined the colour of the figures (on pottery, red pottery with black figures had figures painted black. But hair and beard was, in that case, painted red/light. Other style, light figures on dark were light with dark hair and beard). There’s no indication those weren’t the same people.
Personally, I imagine them as Caucasians. (dark Caucasians). Hair thick and dark, dark eyes, olive skin. If there was some African blood in them, it wasn’t recent to make them biracial (in a way of one black parent or even grandparent).
For some reason, I don’t think they look that much different than the modern Greeks- which might not be a good approximation. However, we know what colonial westerners thought of them (Greek people in 18th and 19th century)- they were dark. They were not black, but they were way too dark to be considered acceptable. In the colonial days, when west became crazy about Ancient Greece, and Ancient Greece became “cradle of European civilization”, many westerners visiting Greece (then under Ottoman rule) were disappointed to see those “dirty dark ugly Greek peasants”. It’s impossible that those people were true descendants of those noble, white Greeks that gave us philosophy, art and civilizations.
So, those dark peasants, westerners thought, are not true “children” of those noble Ancient Greeks- we are! So they stole monuments and took them to England or wherever because they thought they belong to them, not to Greek peasants (who were unable to say no, because they were under Turks who didn’t care about those monuments).
As for “Jim Crow” test, I have no idea. It’s better to ask Americans whether those people could pass for white or not in the South during the Jim Crow era.
Thanks Mira,
I am just going to keep it brief:
The problem though is if we utilise the ‘hardline semantic’ as regarding Egyptian populace then I think it is ‘impossible’ to say what ‘race’ they (the Greeks) belong to??
Especially when you go a bit further and note that the Greeks are derived from the Hellas (Hellenes) but we do NOT know much about these people. Whether Greece is in Europe or not I believe is ‘unhelpful’ in deciding if they are White/Caucasians
As for the word ‘colony’ ‘colonialist’, ‘colonisers’ of the Aegean region. I do not think Bernal has the idea that the Egyptians ‘colonised’ these areas as say the English ‘colonised’ Australia.
Personally I thought it was readily accepted as a ‘fact’ that there was a Phonecian/Egyptian presence in areas like
the Aegean etc that without a doubt had an ‘influence’ on Greece
“Discoveries of scarabs and other Egyptian objects made at Mycenae, Ialysus, Vaphio, and others. with the 18th Dynasty (ca. 1600-1400 BC). While in Egypt itself, Refti tributaries, bearing vases of Aegean form, and themselves similar in fashion of dress and arrangement of hair to figures on Cretan frescoes and gems , are depicted under this and the succeeding Dynasties (e.g. Rekhmara tomb at Thebes).
Actual vases of late Minoan style have been found with remains of the 18th Dynasty, while in the Aegean area itself was evidence of a great wave of Egyptian influence beginning with this same Dynasty, such as the Nilotic scenes depicted on the Mycenae daggers, on fresco and other artefacts”.
http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/History/AegeanCivilization.html
Correct. It’s impossible to say what “race: Greeks belonged to. The issue of their race is anachronistic and can’t truly be discussed because it makes no sense. But you asked for my opinion, and since imagining ancient people (or historical populations) is not something I can prevent, I told you what image of them I have in my mind. I also answered about the image I have of Egyptians.
Especially when you go a bit further and note that the Greeks are derived from the Hellas (Hellenes) but we do NOT know much about these people.
What do you mean we don’t know much about these people? Are you referring to the original population of Ancient Greeece? Or classical Ancient Greek populations? We do know a lot about them. Well, “a lot” is relative, of course. We know as much as we do about other people. Where did any world population come from? Eastern Africa (as far as we know). But it’s not the point here, I believe.
No, he did mean colonize, as: our people go there, take that territory, live there and mix with natives. So, the only difference I see is that English people weren’t so eager to mix with natives and the quantity- there were more English colonists than the Egyptian/Phoenican ones. Like I said, I don’t know if Bernal changed his mind about this in his later books, but that’s what he proposed in “Black Athena”.
Yes. Egyptian presence in the Aegean is the known fact. But “Aegean” and “Greece” is not the same thing. Bernal wasn’t talking about the presence in the Aegean, but about the actual colonization on the north- as north as Black sea, and in Greece as well. Some of those colonies were Phoenican, but, according to him, there was also Egyptian presence in Greece.
J, you seem to see “Aegean” and “Greece” as the same thing. It isn’t. Minoan civilization has nothing to do with Greece. Those people were not Greek. It’s not the same thing. Yes, Greece is in Aegean region and it is one of the Aegean cultures, but it began relatively late in comparison to other Aegean cultures.
Also, Minoan civilization and Mycenae is not the same thing. Mycenae culture is considered to be the first Greek culture. And yes, there are plenty of evidence of contact between early Greeks (Myceane) and Egypt. It still doesn’t mean “colonization”, it means “contact”. Plus, colonization Bernal was talking about was (if it was) even earlier, before Mycenae.
I am trying to take into account that we do not know much about the Hellenes and where they originate from.
As the ancestors of the Greeks they would be one and the same ‘people’. However, this cannot be deduced from academia.
Hence I am conflating many issues, Greece, Minoan civilisation – if they are viewed as a precusor of the Greeks.
This is why I make reference to Aegean and the Greeks.
So the essence of my point, although we may know ‘more about’ Greek civilisation 3rd century AD, but very little is known about their origins. Since there is NOT much detail on their origins, this is why I am alluding to Aegean and Levant (in an earlier post).
This is the essence of the point I am getting at and not minute details on Aegean.
And again with regard to Bernal. I thought he was charting the influence on Greece from around 1400 B.C up to Greek civilisation 330 BC, for Phoneician and Egypt to a greater extent, amongst other things.
These are the issues before us and what in essence we are discussing
Hope the above makes some sense since I am multi-tasking here – and not doing very well he he he
We do not know much about Pelasgians, the first people that lived in mainland Greece. They were, presumably, autochthonous. At least that’s how later Greeks thought of them. They also saw them as “primitive” and inferior (which is not surprising- colonizers always say those they colonize are inferior). If Bernal’s theory of colonization was correct, Egypt/Levant colonized them (Pelasgians). If this is, indeed true, they could be part African. We are not sure if Pelasgians were Indo-European or not, we don’t know what language they spoke. We don’t know how they looked like. Meanwhile, there was strong culture on Crete (Minoan), as well as on the Aegean islands (Cyclades).
Enter Mycenaeans. Those are the first Greeks- that is, first people who spoke Greek. They are considered to be Indo-Europeans. They appeared in the mainland in the 17th century BC (some say in 20th century BC)- for all we know, from the north. Where from north, we have no idea. Those people spoke Greek language and established what is known as Mycenaean civilization in the Bronze Age. Those are Greeks that fought against Troy. They established strong connections with the East and South (Levant and Egypt). They were pretty strong till about 1100.
What happened then (beginning of the Iron Age) is the main theme of my research. It’s particularly interesting because historians and archaeologist disagree on what was going on. Historians base their research on written sources, and talk about Dorian invasion from the north that happened around 1100. Wild Dorians came and destroyed Mycenaean centres. Dorians were inferior in culture to Mycenaeans so it was a bad time for Greece. First of all, they were illiterate. So writing didn’t exist in that dark age. When there are no written sources, historians are unable to say anything, because they work with written sources. And there was none. So, they say, it was a dark age. All contacts with East and South were lost and it was a horrible time.
Archaeologists disagree. They work with material sources- and there are plenty of material sources in the Iron age, that show that this time was not as horrible as once looked. First of all, they started producing iron weapons (working with iron is not easy). Also, it was the time society changed in a way that made later city states (that classical Greece is famous for) possible. Also, it is the time Homeric poems were shaped, and along with it large corpus of Greek mythology. And guess what- contacts with East and South were not completely lost, they were different.
Later, around 800 BC we see more and more contacts once again. And another thing- emergence of Greek alphabet, heavily influenced by Phoenican. But it was not the same as the first Greek writing, Liner B even though the language was the same (well, not the same of course, Mycenaean was early Greek, but still Greek language).
Sorry for this long info. I just wanted to point out the difference between Pelazgi, Minonas (from Crete), Mycenaeans and classical Greeks.
Minoan civilization is seen as a precursor of the Greeks- but according to who, you might ask? Eurocentric scholars. They see Minoans, who were neither Indo-European (for all we know) nor Greek (we do know) – as some sort of “early Greeks” or something. This is not the best way to go. Minoan civilization is one thing, Mycenaean is another. Those are not the same people.
Thanks for the wealth of information.
I would just add with regard to
“Enter Mycenaeans. Those are the first Greeks- that is, first people who spoke Greek. They are considered to be Indo-Europeans”
Not every one accepts that they are Indo-Europeans and if we use the same ‘hardline semantic’ as with Egypt. It cannot be demonstrated otherwise that they were in fact so.
And as for Linear A and B scripts…One of those scripts has not been deciphered as of yet??. There are some scholars who suggest that they may be not connected to Indo-Europeans language if I have remembered correctly
Their language is accepted to be Indo-European. Since Indo-Europeans are usually regarded as “those who speak Indo-European languages”, Mycenaeans are regarded as Indo-Europeans. Their language is proved to be early Greek. They are first Greeks.
And as for Linear A and B scripts…One of those scripts has not been deciphered as of yet??. There are some scholars who suggest that they may be not connected to Indo-Europeans language if I have remembered correctly.
First things first: You are correct, one of the scripts has not been deciphered as of yet: Linear A. Minoans (from Crete) used it. We still don’t know anything about their lanugage and the script they used (Linear A) has not been deciphered. Because we don’t know their language. And as far as we know, it was not Indo-European.
Mycenaeans spoke Greek and used Linear B script. They formed the script with the influence of Minoans (and Linear A), but they used it for their own language (Greek). Just like they later formed their alphabet using Phoenican one to write the same language. Linear B was deciphered in the 50s and it was proved it was used to record an early form of Greek language, but Greek language nevertheless.
Minoans (Crete)-> Linear A script- non Indo-European language- not deciphered
Mycenaeans (Greeks)-> Linear B script – Indo-European language (Greek)- deciphered
Perhaps the dialogue may make me have a look at all these differing issues once again
Sure. 🙂 Unfortunately, I think we’re getting a bit off topic here. Maybe Abagond could write “how white (black) was Ancient Greece” post, so we could discuss this further.
Meanwhile, here’s and article called “Black Greeks” I found. I am still reading it, so I have no idea how scientific/afrocentric/eurocentric it is, but it talks about Bernal and I can see several example of pottery with black figures (argued to present black people, I assume), so let’s take a look at it together:
http://clyde.winters.tripod.com/chapter6.html
(Once again, I have no idea what it is and I still don’t have my opinion on it- will have to read it first).
Personally I don’t think we are getting off topic at all and this brings me nicely to my point, viz. If the same ‘hardline semantic’ that is used for Egypt is then applied to Western civilization (including Romans/Etruscans). What will you find that it is ‘impossible’ to classify these peoples as
‘White/Caucasian’
It is the ‘hardline semantic’ (along with the antecedent of racism) that makes it so difficult to classify Egypt as a Black/African civilization like any other on the continent,
and for Abagond to ask the question ‘ How Black Was Ancient Egypt’ as many others have asked also.
However the hardline semantic is never reversed with regard to Western/White civilizations (mutatis mutandis)
With regard to Clyde A. Winters, I had sent you a link regarding him already on this page. His work is very African-centred
I don’t remember the link! Are you use I said I’d read it. I guess I missed it- I’ll try to find it.
I already said it’s impossible to classify Ancient Greeks as white. I don’t see any problem with it. The more interesting question I ask here is- whether it was an European civilization? Geographically, the answer is simple- it was. But in other meanings of the word?
The next thing wee need to ask: what is considered to be an European civilization? Geographically European? Established and practiced by white people? Or western civilization?
In practice, many people see it as “western” civilization- which makes no sense. How much today’s western civilization is based on Ancient Greece is besides the point. It tells nothing about the actual Ancient Greece. In that sense, Greece was a culture that had many important contacts with both South and barbaric North.
As for a blog post, “how white was Ancient Greece” would be an excellent idea. I already said it. And don’t think people didn’t ask this already- like I said, 18th century Englishmen didn’t really see modern Greeks as particularly white or worthy to be children of such a superior civilization as Ancient Greece.
And back to the link I gave. I didn’t read the whole article (I have to finish it before I form my opinion), but for now, it looks like a mess. A mess with good intentions, perhaps, but still a mess. Person who wrote it can’t tell the difference between Minoans and Mycenaeans and images he used as an examples are taken, it seems, randomly, from different periods (one example is from 15th century BC, then another from 8th century, then again one from 12th century). You can’t do it like that- either present them chronologically or following another principle, but a principle.
All in all, this is the first thing that caught my attention:
The Eurocentrists attempt to prove there was “considerable cultural and linguistic continuity from the twelfth century to the eight century BC” ,in the Aegean . Yet there is no way it can be proven that Indo-European Greeks have always been in Greece. This view on the continuity between the Linear B Greeks and later Greeks held by Lefkowitz is disputed by Hopper who noted that ” after all, so much which characterizes Minoan Crete seems wholly alien to later Greece, despite the efforts of scholars to detect ‘continuity’ ” .
Slow down, slow down. One thing at a time. There is argued to be considerable linguistic continuity because language was the same. Culture wasn’t- that’s the whole point.
Also, they say “is no way it can be proven that Indo-European Greeks have always been in Greece.” Of course there is no way. In fact, there are proofs that Greeks were NOT always been in Greece, they came later. This is not a mystery or a less known fact.
Also: “disputed by Hopper who noted that ” after all, so much which characterizes Minoan Crete seems wholly alien to later Greece, despite the efforts of scholars to detect ‘continuity’ ” – doesn’t make any sense. Of course Mionan Crete was “alien to later Greece”- that was not the same culture! Mionans were not Greek, those are not the same people, and I don’t know why author of the article thinks Minoans are Greek.
With regard to Greek being a European civilisation, how can it be classified as such when the Europe had NOT even existed then.
If anything Greece was tied to Africa via Egypt and the Middle East
With regard to your position on the ‘race’ of te Geeks. You had already given your views of what you thought they were White/Caucasian. So would you like to clarify??
Finally as for the part you cited and quoted from C.A. Winters. I have not read the article, but what you quoted I had alsways thought that was the Euro-centred position. Obviously not everyone who is Western/euro-centred would off course adopt this position, but some would.
I do not see anything wrong with what C.A Winters has cited in this respect. He is quoting what HE believes is the position of Eurocentred scholars – but this is NOT his position.
And I read the C.A Winters piece, from my little knowledge on the subject I do not see much wrong with it.
You will see also that CA Winters disagrees that Bernal is also an Afrocentric point.
My point on raising this whole subject today is to show if the same ‘criteria’ is extended to Greece as it is/has been for Egypt. Then it would be impossible to say anthing about the race and/or phenotypes of Greeks, Roman, Irish
etc (mutatis mutandis)
True, that can be said too. Europe didn’t exit. Still, if we want to classify it geographically by today’s standards (which is usually done), we can say Greek civilization was located mainly in Europe. But not just in Europe, since there were cities on other continents.
But yes, you are correct, it’s impossible to say Ancient Greece was European since Europe did not exist.
Of course. Those were more civilized (so to speak) parts of the world, not the barbaric European mainland. Still, Greece had many contacts with barbarians as well.
But it is also besides the point, since Africa and Middle East didn’t exist as concepts back then.
No, I said I imagine them as modern Greeks, more or less. It’s not something I like (imagining ancient people), because I consider this to be counter productive. But it’s not something I can consciously prevent. Also, what I know about Greeks, and what I see in their art doesn’t conflict with that image, so it stuck, I guess.
Finally as for the part you cited and quoted from C.A. Winters. I have not read the article, but what you quoted I had alsways thought that was the Euro-centred position. […] I do not see anything wrong with what C.A Winters has cited in this respect. He is quoting what HE believes is the position of Eurocentred scholars – but this is NOT his position.
I understand it’s not his position. I don’t know if he misinterpreted Eurocentc scholars, or he chose to cite authors who know nothing about the subject- but there are many huge mistakes in the passage I cited. Material errors, such as implying Minoans were Greek.
Yes, I understand that: he doesn’t see Bernal as Afrocentric, because Bernal said it was Semitic Hyksos those who colonized Greece. But as far as I remember Bernal (and I am sure I do remember him), he also argued other Egyptian influence and colonization on Greece, not just Hyksos. Whether he thought Egyptians were black or not, I don’t remember.
My point on raising this whole subject today is to show if the same ‘criteria’ is extended to Greece as it is/has been for Egypt. Then it would be impossible to say anthing about the race and/or phenotypes of Greeks, Roman, Irish etc (mutatis mutandis)
Of course not. It is impossible to say anything about race of the Greeks, and their phenotypes (genetics) can only be guessed or argued (usually using art). But that is all.
But what we should ask here is not “were X black/white” but “why is important to determine if X were black/white”?
PS-It’s late now, and I didn’t have time to finish reading the article, but I’ll do it and post my comments here.
on Thu Mar 25th 2010 at 00:28:29 J
Just to say Africa (in the sense of Egypt) and Persia/Iraq
or by whatever name you want to call them did exist.
When I say Europe did NOT exist then I am referring to the geo-political entity.
This is the essence of my point.
With regard to Greek civilization much of it is influenced by Phoenicia and Egypt and this was the ‘impetus’ of their
civilization. NOT other areas of Europe which did not have that ‘high culture’ at that time.
I am not sure of your point that the ancient Greeks look like modern Greeks, since modern Greeks are ‘White Caucasian’ as you describe, when you said:
“On the other hand, there are more evidence of colonization from the north (Balkans), so I think we could say Greek people were Caucasian. To me, Caucasian means white, but I’d say they were not “Aryan” (blonde, blue eyed, really light skinned) Caucasians. They were, I guess, more of what is considered (even today) “Mediterranean” or “dark Caucasians”.
And on the issue of Cleopatra there were at least 7
‘Queen Cleopatras’ in Graeco-Egypto history
Africa as a geo-political entity didn’t exist. Egypt did exist, in what’s called Africa today. Persia didn’t exist back then (it came a bit later), in what is today’s Iran, not Iraq (and spread from there).
civilization.
Nobody denies influence (or contact). But I am not so sure about actual colonization. There’s no proof of it.
What’s confusing about this? I said that we don’t know much about the earliest (neolitic) populations in today’s Greece, but we know about people from the north who settled there later. Those people were, as far as we know, Caucasian. They spoke Indo-European language. They didn’t live there from the beginning, but they mixed with the natives and they created Mycenaean civilization. There’s evidence of later colonizations from the north. All of this happened in Bronze and Iron age- much before the classical Greece which is the most famous.
Also, I said I imagine them as Caucasians, more or less like today’s Greeks. This might not be a proper image, but it’s the one I got. Greek art doesn’t conflict with this view. How do you imagine Ancient Greeks? How about Egyptians?
True, but when we say “Cleopatra”, we mean on Cleopatra VII, the last ruler of Egypt.
Just for clarification:
The origin of the word Africa is still a little uncertain, but it is credible to see a connection from Latin (Africa = sunny) and Greek (Aphrike = not cold).
The Romans were the first to use the name.
“Africa” – a great and problematic word
http://crawfurd.dk/africa/word.htm
“How white was Ancient Greece?” would make a wonderful companion post.
And again for further clarification:
Persia (in the Sept. persis, in the Achæmenian inscriptions Parsa, in Elamitic Parsin, in modern Persian Fars, and in Arabic Fars, or Fâris) was originally the name of a province in Media, but afterwards — i.e., towards the beginning of the fifth century B.C. — it became the general name of the whole country formerly comprising Media, Susiana, Elam, and even Mesopotamia (viz Iraq)
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11712a.htm
Too be honest I am NOT so sure mate…
Its your blog mate…but I am free to voice my opinions
As for Persia: Persians did expand their rule on Mesopotamia (and, in some periods, Anadolia and Egypt), but generally considered, “Persia” was today’s Iran, not Iraq. And btw, Persians were also Indo-Europeans, not Semites.
I already know this is my blog. I am asking why YOU think “How white was Ancient Greece?” is not a good idea for a post.
As for Persia: Persians did expand their rule on Mesopotamia (and, in some periods, Anadolia and Egypt), but generally considered, “Persia” was today’s Iran, not Iraq. And btw, Persians were also Indo-Europeans, not Semites
Just for clarification we are speaking if the term existed or not in ancient times. I posted the refernce to show that they had…
As for Persia being Indo-European. If we are not merely playing with words (here terma). the issue of the ‘problem of language’.
What you will see is that Elam (or specifically the region of Persia/Iran or by any other such name) was NOT Indo-European depending on what period of history one is referring to.
Its a similar thing with Mesopotamia that ONLY became ‘Semetic’ around c. 2,400 BC
With regard to your question Abagond, before I logged on to your page I thought I would give you a reason of my position.
Only to find you had already asked the question and clarified your own position.
I guess I must have been ‘defensive’ in my outlook, when I responded the way I did.
No-one really believes that Greek civilization was NOT White/Caucasian phenomena.
Its only through a ‘manipulative distortion’ of Afrocentricism that individuals might believe that African centred scholars are suggesting that ‘Greek is NOT a European civilization’
I think if you did the blog it would be a sort of ‘tautology’.
it could well be the equivalent of creating a blog about ‘King Alfred Plan’ and discussing as if it is ‘TRUE’ but NOT as the ‘URBAN MYTH’ that it is.
I hope this has clarified somewhat…
Perhaps if you are keen to do a post on it. Then comments made earlier could give you something to work with
**********However the hardline semantic is never reversed with regard to Western/White civilizations (mutatis mutandis)*******
So you could ask the following:
What if Westerm/euro-centred academia applied the same ‘tests’ such as there is no such thing as race, the artwork not being representative, words having a different meaning in the past and so forth to Ancient Greece, would they be able to identify it as White/Caucasian civilization??
Now this question/issue would be more on point, in my opinion and also reveal the disingenuousness of the processes at hand
Right, that was my thinking. And in addition the history of Greece’s whiteness, something I think Herneith commented on: it was not till the late 1700s that anyone thought to even call Greece “white”. And add into that the experience of Greeks in America in regard to race (though maybe they did not have much trouble because Italians came before them and helped to extend the meaning of “white” into the darker hues).
… But I doubt that any Greeks who lived in America in the late 1700s were regarded as white as Plato and Aristotle in the minds of people like Jefferson.
And again to make the issue more confusing when we speak of ‘Greece civilization’ we are speaking of a conglomerate of people divided over city-states like Sparta,
Alexander the Great father was not born in Greece but Macedonia
With regards to your comments Abagond I think this time period falls into the category of ‘Nordic and/or Teutonic supremacy’. When the Western world following Gobineau began to classify ALL Whites people by race prior to that only people with color has that ‘privilege’ bestowed upon them
In essence, you are right: we should determine what “Greece” means first. That’s the first mistake Winters’ made in that article.
But you are wrong about Macedonia: Macedonia isn’t in Greece. It’s never regarded as Greece. Macedonia was not a city state. Alexander was not Greek, he was Macedonian. Well, his father was Macedonian and his mother was from Epirus. None of them was Greek. Macedonians adopted Greek culture, but they were not Greeks. So whenever you talk about Hellenism and Hellenistic period, you are, in fact, not talking about “Ancient Greece” in its general meaning of the word.
Now, about:
*However the hardline semantic is never reversed with regard to Western/White civilizations (mutatis mutandis)
This is not true. “How white was Greece” was a relevant topic (and I guess it still is), but it was concluded, like in the case of Egypt, that is impossible to apply modern notions of race into the past since “race” is not biological- it’s a social construct that didn’t exist back then. In that sense, the only thing we can argue is whether particular ancient group would be seen as white TODAY, but even that doesn’t mean much, since different cultures have different ideas about who’s white and who’s black and who’s brown.
Like I said, it is concluded that is impossible to identify Greece as White civilization. It is not a secret, or a controversial issue.
And about Persia:
True, Elamites were not Indo-European. But when I said “Persia”, I meant on Ancient Persia (Achaemenid Empire), since I thought we were talking about that period of ancient history.
And in addition the history of Greece’s whiteness, something I think Herneith commented on: it was not till the late 1700s that anyone thought to even call Greece “white”.
This is interesting and probably has a lot to do with the way westerners view “whiteness” and who is truly European and who is not. Like I already said, western Europeans did not see modern Greeks as “one of them”- not just “one of them”, but not even “descendants of Ancient Greeks”. Race is, as far as I know, never mentioned, but modern Greeks were not seen as “fully European and worthy of Ancient Greece”.
Westerners (WASPs) had (have?) this twisted image of Ancient Greeks as being noble, wise, and, well, white. White not like your average Greek (Mediterranean type), but – I don’t know- white as marble, white as WASPs, I guess. If you see their culture as cradle of your civilization, you will start imagining them as yourself (your people), because you believe only your “kind of people” are intelligent and superior.
I don’t know about Greeks in America, whether they were regarded as white or not- it is interesting to hear more about it.
All in all, I believe “How white was Ancient Greece” is an interesting idea for a post. Obviously, there’s a lot to discuss about it (even though we all know the answer: “it’s impossible to determine and the question is anachronistic”).
I’ll save my longish analysis of the article “Black Greeks” for “how white was Greece” post, I just want to say a few things here.
First of all, it looks like the article in question was not written by Winters, but by someone who has absolutely NO idea about ancient history & archaeology, and can’t tell the difference between Minoans and Mycenaeans, don’t understand who Pelasgi were, etc. I don’t think Winters would make such a mistake. Article was written by someone who is trying to present Winters’ work on black Greeks, but who doesn’t know anything about Ancient Greece. That’s why the article looks like a mess. J, you said it made sense to you, but with all due respect, you don’t know much about Ancient Greece either. Trust me, it’s a mess.
I’ll give you an example: say someone in the future decides to determine whether Americans were white. But as a proof, he takes evidence from 1000 BC till 2000 AC. And treat all those people as “American”. So he could take some Native Americans and say: these people are not white, so I must conclude Americans were not white”. Time span used in the article is not that huge (3000 years), but it is huge (several centuries). In those several centuries various groups of people lived in mainland Greece. Some of them were not Greek.
And now, this is the most important thing: Winters argue Pelasgians were not white, nor Indo-European. His idea is interesting- and possible. We don’t have much proof either way, but it’s not impossible. Maybe Pelasgians were, indeed, black. But the thing is: Pelasgians were not Greek. Nobody says they were, and nobody claims they were Indo-European.
Also, the article seems to skip Mycenaeans (first Greeks) altogether and jumps to classical Ancient Greece instead. This is incorrect. Once again, I guess that’s author’s fault and lack of knowledge and not Winters’.
Not to mention they argue whether Socrates was black, as if he was Pelasgian. Even if Pelasgians were black, they were not Greeks. Greeks came from north and were, presumably, Caucasian. They mixed with Pelasgians and, if they were black, the offspring was mixed. But Socrates came 10 centuries later. That is one thousand years later. Unless someone of his near ancestors was black, he could hardly be described as black on the account that thousand years ago black people lived in Greece. I don’t think even the most rigid one drop rule could go that far.
Thanks Mira!!
Just to say I think you may be looking at things from the wrong angle
It is Western histiography that states that Alexander the Great ie Macedonia is tied to Greek civilization.
And to a large degree this is what the C.A Winters article is doing, in my view. It is taking the ‘accepted position’ in
Western academia and/or what he thinks it may be, and then showing why it is problematic but from an African centred perspective.
This type of analyses whether the Greeks can be classified as ‘European’ is a novel idea but it does not fit in with what has bene taking place over the last hundred years or so. And I do not think we should lose sight of that even if the argument is true.
And what would be non-western views on this?
I mean, Macedonians did adopt Greek culture (more or less). That is not an issue. They were not the same as Greeks, and the level of “adopting Greek culture” is something we could discuss.
The article is not saying anything about Macedonians. The focus is on early Greece, and the period several centuries before the rise of Macedonia.
Winters’ views are interesting, but this article represent them in a really bad way, because I am sure it was written by someone who knows nothing about Ancient Greece.
This type of analyses whether the Greeks can be classified as ‘European’ is a novel idea but it does not fit in with what has bene taking place over the last hundred years or so.
Of course. This view of Greece is relatively new. Still, it can’t be said (like you argued) that scholars NEVER talk about it. They do. They do today. If you want to say they didn’t discuss this in the past, this is true. But nobody argued whether Egypt was black either. Afrocentrism as a school of thought didn’t exist. A lot of things were different in social sciences a hundred years ago.
If all goes well, “How white was Ancient Greece” will come out tomorrow. I am discovering that I already have plenty of thoughts about it just on my own.
With regard:
“They do today. If you want to say they didn’t discuss this in the past, this is true. But nobody argued whether Egypt was black either. Afrocentrism as a school of thought didn’t exist. A lot of things were different in social sciences a hundred years ago”.
‘Afrocentricism’ as a concept may be tied to the U.S but ‘African centred thinking’ is a lot older than ‘Afrocentricism’ by hundred of years and even back then, ie over a hundred years ‘Black scholars’ were suggesting Egypt was a Black civilisation. This very point is even alluded to in the link you provided with C.A Winters
And again still on this issue.
You suggest
However, you have not identified as yet what actually
is ‘Ancient Greece’??
So I am not quite sure I understand the point here.
Thanks for the clarification! Unfortunately, I didn’t get that from the article, like I said, I found it messy. Thanks for clarifying.
Oh yes, sorry. Ancient Greece is an ancient (lol) civilization that lasted for several centuries: from about 8th century till 146, when Romans made Greece into a province of their province. Some people argue Ancient Greece, in fact, existed only till late 4th century, when Macedonians came (and joined Macedonian and Greek culture is called Hellenistic).
NONE of this applies to periods Winters discuss. He talks about earlier period, several centuries before. This period is, in fact, the time Greece was formed and social structure transformed. The rise of city state (in 8th century) and Greek alphabet are usually seen as starting points of Ancient Greek civilization. However, that doesn’t mean the culture just appeared out of nowhere one day in 8th century. What happened before (in Greek prehistory) is very important. My work mainly focuses on Iron Age (that lasted from 12th till 8th century- the very period in which social structures slowly formed).
I meant “Romans made it into their province”, not “province of their province”. 🙂
on Thu Mar 25th 2010 at 16:33:30 no_slappz
Westerners (WASPs) had (have?) this twisted image of Ancient Greeks as being noble, wise, and, well, white. White not like your average Greek (Mediterranean type), but – I don’t know- white as marble, white as WASPs, I guess.
Yes, of course. This is a topic that’s a regular among whites pondering important matters. Pretty much every day.
If you see their culture as cradle of your civilization, you will start imagining them as yourself (your people), because you believe only your “kind of people” are intelligent and superior.
It seems your analysis does the opposite — it explains why virtually no black nations have embraced the timeless ideals of democracy and other developments attributed to Greece.
However, based on your explanation and from the efforts of many others to redefine Greek civilization as a society that was at least partially black, you are suggesting that if only the word would spread that Greeks were black then the black world of today would get onboard with all these ideas that have been co-opted by whites.
Okay. Whatever works.
Are you aware of the fact you’re quoting me, not abagond?
However, I am having problems still following the sequence of logic, of teh point you are getting at,, and things like C.A Winters article does not show African centred ideas have not been around for a long time, when it did.
Anyhow, please correct me if I am wrong when I say the following is in ‘essence’ the Western position regarding Greek culture civilisation, heritage etc??
1. Western histiographia/world claims ‘cultural descent’ through Greece
2. Western histographia/world makes a ‘cultural link ‘between what preceded Greek civilisation and Greek civilisation per se
3. In essence there is no difference between the precusors of Greek civilsations and Greek civilisations because thy are one and the same people, White/Caucasians
No??
Were you aware No_Slappz that if you study ‘democracy’ in Greece, you would find thet it only applied approx to 10-15% of the populace??
Most of the citizens of Greece were ‘slaves’ – and I think I am using the term in its correct context, up to at least 80% quoted by some sources
Oh. Okay. So it seems you are now devaluing the importance of democracy and the significance of Ancient Greece because the nation was selective about who benefited from it.
Amusing.
I am just telling you a historical fact that you were probably NOT aware of.
And that you are conflating terms of ‘democracy’ which carries us back to the heart of the essence. What is the ‘veridical’ representation of the past??
Just to say we are not all like you here out to score petty points.
No, you are correct, I was wrong: Winters showed African centred ideas are not new. It was my fault- I didn’t get that from the article.
You are correct. Though I must add ever westerner (Eurocentric) scholars questioned that view (presented in 1,2,3) and today it is concluded not everything was the way it was believed. But those opinions (1,2,3) are still very popular, especially outside academic circles (among general population). If nothing else, the whole European identity is based on #1.
Correction: “I must add NEVER (not ever) westerner (Eurocentric) scholars questioned that view”.
I never said that. Average Joe doesn’t really care about anything that doesn’t concern him, and Ancient Greece is not really important to anybody, is it? That doesn’t change the fact scholars from 18th century saw Ancient Greece as white civilization. That view is later populated so even kids in school learn it. It shapes the way people see Greece, even if they don’t think about it much.
What part of my analysis? Also, note that I said westerners saw Ancient Greece as white, but not the actual, modern Greeks, who were too dark to be considered white at the time.
if only the word would spread that Greeks were black then the black world of today would get onboard with all these ideas that have been co-opted by whites.
Well, you may read my replies any way you like- and if this is the way you want to see it, go for it.
Ok, I don’t know what’s going on with me today. Another correction: “it’s NEWER not NEVER”. Maybe I should stop posting for a while.
So tell me why black governments throughout history have overwhelmingly rejected the principles of democracy.
What does THAT have to do with anything I wrote here? Many- scratch this- MOST of white governments throughout history have overwhelmingly rejected the principles of democracy. So?
Many- scratch this- MOST of white governments throughout history have overwhelmingly rejected the principles of democracy.
I see. So the answer is embarrassing and that has led you to some version of the Arab Trader sidestep.
Since everything on this site relates to the state of the black world today, the question is relevant. Moreover, as an entry to a post on the blackness of Egypt and Greece, it is especially relevant.
Why have the democratic and other intellectual principles that arose in Greece been so painfully absent from subsequent black history if blacks were part of the brains behind them?
Elaborate.
What “other intellectual principles” that arose in Greece have been “so painfully” absent from subsequent black history?
I guess you argue it’s white race what made Greeks develop democracy and “other intellectual principles”. So, if white skin is all you need to have to develop all these wonders, tell me: why most of the white cultures didn’t have democracy and “other intellectual principles”? If whites are, you know, that superior and all?
However, just as many black Africans are different shades of brown and possess different features, not all whites are Nordic (blond hair, blue eyes). Mediterraneans count as white too.
Plus, you’re right: we are getting off topic here, especially now that we’ll have a post on Greece.
Nice evasion. Actually, rather weak.
I’m keeping the question simple. Why have blacks failed to develop stable governments?
As far as the other principles attributed to Ancient Greece go, you know, the logic stuff, the basic science and math.
It boils down to the fact that if the African continent were to have disappeared below the sea any time in the last 3,000 years, the world would have lost nothing of intellectual significance.
No, you’re asking why blacks didn’t develop democracy.
Then I guess you are unfamiliar with math, science, astronomy etc. that was developed before Ancient Greece, knowledge that Greece adopted. If you are not familiar with history we can’t talk. Educate yourself a bit and then come back to discuss.
If you type <i>Hello, world!</i>
it will come out looking like this:
<em> and </em> also work.
My comment policy has some tips on that kind of stuff:
on Thu Mar 25th 2010 at 19:15:52 Ankhesen
Here’s what I find hilarious.
The so-called “ethnic Egyptians”–as in, descendents of the originals–are still alive–much like America’s own Native Americans. These self-proclaimed “black Egyptians” look quite “black”–black skin, curly hair, you name it. They consider themselves black.
And yet not once on here–aside for the link I posted earlier–has anyone stopped to say, “Gee…why don’t we ask them what they think?” Not the Arabs who arrived in 7 AD–we already know what they think–but the people still living in Egypt in 7 AD who were colonized and effectively pushed into the background.
How come no one here is trying to track them down and get first-hand information from them?
Abagond, maybe you should do another post.
Maybe. I will look into it. My understanding is that there has never been a large-scale genocide in Egypt like there has been in North America.
You are a determined sidestepper and evader. You now define temporize and dissemble.
Okay. Then answer your own question.
But more accurately, I do not care who gets to claim the credit for originating democracy. I am more interested to know why it has been so absent from black governments.
bay area guy,
It seems you are missing the obvious.
Why has white and asian intellect developed and successfully applied itself to many of the challenges of existence while black intellect has not?
Here in the modern world knowledge is free. There is prosperity.
As a result of that prosperity, people from all over the world have worked hard to spread all the free knowledge to those who live in Africa in the hope of relieving the misery.
Why is it so hard?
Singapore went from an asian backwater to one of the wealthiest nations in the world in 40 years.
Considering the abundance of knowledge, technology and human willingness, the transition from primitive to modern should have become much easier. But in Africa the transition is barely evident, and in some ways things are going backwards, thanks to the demented work of muslims.
Then I guess you are unfamiliar with math, science, astronomy etc. that was developed before Ancient Greece, knowledge that Greece adopted.
Oh yeah. The assimilation of knowledge is clearly a sign of curiosity and intelligence.
However, based on your comment, it seems you want to minimize the Greek influence by suggesting they got all the goods from others who preceded them.
On the basis of your thinking, Einstein has to give up his claim to his Theory of Relativity.
No Slappz:
Oh please, you are way worse than Mira. Mira is an honest person who is trying to understand. You are neither honest nor trying to understand. The Africa thing and the white inventor thing has been explained to you several times, but you prefer to wallow in your racist wet dreams. You are a waste of everyone’s time.
on Thu Mar 25th 2010 at 21:18:24 ColorOfLuv
Here is an interesting site — food for thought.
http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/AncientMacedonia/greekmyth.html
J – dare I say your afrocentrism is rubbing off on me. (Its probably safe to say that the Greeks were not homogeneous in appearance and more than likely a mixture of the Egyptians along with other surrounding influences.)
Did you have this mind?
Thanks for the article- it is very, very interesting. Of course, one must understand that “ethnic purity” here means “ethnic as ethnic group” not “race”.
Modern Greeks strongly base their identity on two principles: Ancient Greece and Byzantine empire. They see themselves as descendants of both and are very proud of it. They strongly dislike when someone else (for example, western Europeans) try to “claim” Ancient Greece for themselves.
That’s why I find this hypocritical:
Other Europeans have become irritated with the Greek myth of ethnic purity.
But the same “other Europeans” are the ones who STOLE Greek monuments and CLAIMED their culture for themselves.
Whether Greeks were genetically identical to Ancient Greeks is irrelevant here. Whether Greeks have right to claim Ancient Greece more than other Europeans is what is relevant. I’d say that, if nothing else, monuments belong to Greece and should stand in Greece.
PS-All the people of today’s Balkans are a heavy mix. Mix of indigenous people, Romans, Celts, Slavs, Turks and anyone else who was here at the time (many people settled on Balkans and they always mixed with those who came before). That shows in Balkan populations- most of the people are mixed in this sense.
It is a very interesting link you posted ColorofLuv. I am going to have a re-read of it again, since once again I am multi-tasking – and not doing very well.
This link has summed up a lot of the problems regarding Greece, in a very succint way.
Oh, God no…that’s not what I meant at all. If anything, it’s the reverse; so-called ethnic Egyptians supposedly make up 94% of Egypt’s population. Everyone’s just told to pretend they don’t exist.
No, but thank you…I actually just linked to what I meant.
Wonderful vid. Pay close attention to the anger, y’all.
Not the Arabs who arrived in 7 AD
Exactly. Before the onset of colonization from the Persians, Macedonians, Romans and Arabs and any ensuing admixture, the Egyptian populace was black. Remember, the victors write history not the vanquished, just ask Hawass! De Volney wrote of the native Egyptians as being black as the current inhabitants at the time attested to. De Volney wrote in the late 1700’s, early 1800’s. In the time continuum, that wasn’t very long ago.
on Fri Mar 26th 2010 at 01:12:43 Eurasian Sensation
“Oh please, you are way worse than Mira. Mira is an honest person who is trying to understand. You are neither honest nor trying to understand. ”
That’s a perfect summation of what no_slappz is about. Him calling Mira a sidestepper and evader is definitely the pot calling the kettle black, except he would no doubt object to being called black.
If I had as much free time as you appear to have – if I did not work and have children – then, you know, I could spend my days writing long anti-Semitic rants on your blog. And whenever anyone challenged me I could dismiss facts that did not suit me and apply bad logic and all the rest in order to “win” arguments. And then when people tired of debating an ignorant fool like me I could declare victory. And then continue to spam your blog with my rants.
@ J and Herneith,
I think it is also important to remember that colonisation came not just from the north, but from the south as well. The Ethiopian empire of Aksum and the empires of Kush and Nubia (from northern Sudan) also controlled large parts of Egypt at various times.
So I think it is too simplistic to merely regard Egypt as a black culture swamped by Caucasians; waves of both black African and Middle-Eastern conquerors would have left their imprint.
Remember that across north Africa there are also pre-Arab indigenous peoples – the Berbers – who are predominantly Caucasian in appearance (though certainly with varying degrees of black African genes as well).
Noticeably, the two Nubian gentlemen in that video, while certainly being “black”, have features that clearly display some Caucasian ancestry.
Again, it shows a complex picture of ancient Egypt and the difficulty of placing people into clearly defined categories.
on Fri Mar 26th 2010 at 03:04:18 J
Thanks Eurasian Sensation,
I think it all depends on ‘perspectives’ which in effect determines how one views things.
If one assume that there is only one type of ‘Black’ here think the ‘Negro type’. Then you can make reference to Nubians as having Caucasian ancestry.
If one has an understanding that Blacks can come in all variations. Then talk of Nubian having Caucasian ancestry becomes a bit of a ‘misnomer’.
As for Berbers, you also have ‘Black Berbers’ too as well as
those classified as ‘White/Caucasoid Berbers’.
This book and you can start from pp 37-38, attempts to give a definition and an origin of the term ‘Berber’ from an African centred perspective
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=1F9HPuDkySsC&dq=Golden+age+of+the+moor+van+sertima&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=6CCsS4agFIv00gSWpKiKDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=&f=false
And as for the race of the Egyptians what Western academia has essentially done is to suggest that the only type of ‘Black’ is the ‘Negro type’.
The Egyptian do NOT approximate to the ‘Negro type’ so therefore they cannot be’ Black’. This is one of the reason we can hear today, debates about Nubian skin tone being ‘quintessentially’ different to the Egyptians, and therefore could not be the same ‘race’ of people. Almost ignoring that there is already a diverse range of skin complexions on the African continent.
I hope this has addressed some of the points in around
about way
And again just to show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
Black people in the Pacific Islands with blonde hair (and a phenomenon that is not related to Caucasian ancestry). I hope the link works
http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/10/blondism-in-melanesia.php
Wow. Thanks for the link. Some Australian Aboriginals also have naturally blonde hair independently of whites.
on Fri Mar 26th 2010 at 04:05:30 Cpt
There clearly is and always has been significant strains of Sub-Saharan (Black) African genes in Egypt. The only question is what genetic mix constitutes ‘black’ and what doesn’t. The answer to that question is a based on cultural biases. In the US they had blacks and whites mixing and they decided to have a ‘one-drop rule’. So people with predominantly European ancestry and features are considered black. In Latin America they decided that light skinned individuals with some African ancestry could be considered white. In the English and French-speaking nations of the Caribbean they decided that lighter-skinned people of mixed-race belonged in a separate racial category. So if anyone wants to put ancient Egyptians in a racial category based on their modern culturally-based view of race they can do that. But it is anachronistic.
Youa re welcome…
I am glad it worked ok on your pc on mine it nearly crashed my whole system ha ha.
Since I cannot open the link from what I remember that picture of the young girl is from the island of Vanuatu (ie Melanesia), but you would be in a better position to see than myself ha ha
And here is another quote:
Blondness is also found throughout other parts of the South Pacific especially in Melanesia in high numbers such as in the Solomon Islands
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://img.search.com/thumb/d/da/Vanuatu_blonde.jpg/180px-Vanuatu_blonde.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.search.com/reference/Blond&usg=__4U6HrfxBKzy6u4coqq_W1QY4n50=&h=245&w=180&sz=12&hl=en&start=2&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=iJTPE_E37b1aDM:&tbnh=110&tbnw=81&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dblondism%2Bin%2Bvanuatu%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4SKPB_enGB349GB349%26tbs%3Disch:1
I have tried to open the first link again.
However, I could just partially open it and I got to only read about the first 5 lines.
The young girl is NOT an Aborigine (ie from Australia) but originates from the Solomon Islands in the region called ‘Melanesia’ translated in meaning to be the ‘Black islands’ from the Greek melos denoting Black, and nesos meaning island.
The second link shows a young boy againt NOT an Aborigine but from Vanuatu in Melenesia in the Pacific ocean
from reading this thread I think everyone on it has a different idea of what “black” means in an Egyptian context!
I agree that black Africans are diverse, genetically the most diverse on earth.
But genetic studies seem to show that there has been significant movement back into NE Africa of West Eurasian genes. So while there is plenty of indigenous diversity among African phenotypes (eg. the San, the Nilotes, the Pygmies, Bantu) the “Cushite” phenotype of NE Africa is pretty clearly reflective of West Eurasian (“Caucasian”) influence.
I’m not sure if this is counter to what you are saying, J.
Btw I’ve heard quite a few Ethiopians rail against any suggestion that they are part Caucasian, as if that somehow makes them not really African. Studies show though that the West Eurasian gene has been in NE Africa for possibly 30,000 years, so that makes it pretty African.
So you are saying there has been a Back to Africa flow of people over the long-term?
Some people say that East Africans look more Caucasian, but I thought it was the other way round: it is Caucasians who look more East African because that is where they are from.
The Jim Crow bus test:
If ten pharaohs got on a bus in Birmingham, Alabama in 1950, how many would have to sit in the back?
Or better yet: the paper bag test:
If ten pharaohs went to a paper bag party (for light-skinned blacks who are lighter than a paper bag), how many would be turned away?
The women at the top of the post certainly would not get in.
” … In the US they had blacks and whites mixing and they decided to have a ‘one-drop rule’. So people with predominantly European ancestry and features are considered black. In Latin America they decided that light skinned individuals with some African ancestry could be considered white…So if anyone wants to put ancient Egyptians in a racial category based on their modern culturally-based view of race they can do that. But it is anachronistic”
There is one bit of the jigsaw puzzle that is missing.
Irrespective of the system of slavery, what one can observe is that if Whites mated with Blacks, and/or Native/indigenous Americans during periods of slavery
Those OFFSPRINGS were NOT classified as ‘White’.
I think there has been a slight ‘conflation’ so as to reach the conclusion that it could be anachronistic to suggest the ‘race’ of the Egyptians
What do you think??
You have hit the nail on the head and this is what is referred to as ‘euro-centred’, and it shows the importance of being able to ‘think outside the box’
As for genes flowing Back and forth. I tend NOT to get into that because it is the ‘outward appearance’ which is important.
Since As Diop once said, on the genetic level, it is possible to get an African being closer to a Swede than say another African.
Finally regard to Asia, Blacks were the first to populate that region, so I am not quite sure what scholars mean when they refer to a ‘West Eurasian’ genes, in particular when we are referring to phenotypes (ie outward appearances)??
on Fri Mar 26th 2010 at 14:04:26 ColorOfLuv
J – sometimes I’m not sure I follow you. You say its about “appearances” and not genetics. However, fundamentally, if we are talking about Egyptians and the various African/Meditteranean influences – then population would have been diverse enough to have more varying degrees of both stereotypical (White/Black) features. (Note: use of the term White/Black is used loosely here since both are defined differently based on individual perceptions)
My point being is that if as you say, “As for genes flowing Back and forth. I tend NOT to get into that because it is the ‘outward appearance’ which is important.”
Then many Egyptians would not have been seen as Black in your eyes due to their “appearance”, while many others would, yet genetically they all would have been predominantly the same.
You said, “Since As Diop once said, on the genetic level, it is possible to get an African being closer to a Swede than say another African.”
I’m not following the logic if you are only giving credit due to a people if they “appear” a certain way. It they “appear” differently than your concept of “Black” as appearance, are there achievements no longer measurable – no longer considered Black?
Eurocentrists tend tend to do this to “lessen” Black achievements historically throughout the history of Mankind; however, it sounds like you are doing the same thing from an Afrocentric perspective, in that if ones “appearance” isn’t Black enough, (even though the genetics are there) it doesn’t count.
OUT OF AFRICA – I mean, the real dilemma lies in the fact that we are all out of Africa and share the same SINGLE forefather… Phenotypic differences that we see today didn’t start appearing until 20,000 years ago….. If you think about it, 20k really isn’t that long ago.
Recent genetic studies I have read seem to confirm that while the initial migrations of modern humans were out of Africa, there was a later migration back from SW Asia into Africa. The first one was thought to be around 30,000 years ago and undoubtedly there’s been more since. It’s hardly surprising when you consider that there was so much going on in the Middle East, of course some Middle Eastern people were going to cross over into Africa.
More recent migration back into Africa was probably what introduced grain agriculture into the Nile Valley. It is also notable that the Amhara of Ethiopia speak a Semitic language close to Arabic, different from the Hamitic languages of their neighbours (Somali, Tigray, Oromo, etc). So the Amhara would appear to be the product of migrants from Arabia mixing with native Ethiopians.
The Caucasian phenotype would not have developed in Africa, since it is in large part a response to environmental conditions that don’t exist there.
The early people who left Africa (and thus gave rise to all non-African peoples) would not have looked Caucasian; although they equally would not have looked exactly like modern Africans either.
Interesting stuff about NE African genetics here:
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/03/04/caucasian-africans/
sorry, still getting the hang of this html italics thing.
I fixed them.
on Fri Mar 26th 2010 at 15:09:36 Mira
If none of them is a Hellenistic (Ptolemaic) rulers, all of them. Of course, if we take as a fact that Greek/Macedonian person would be considered white.
Or better yet: the paper bag test
Same here. Or not. Would Greeks pass paper bag test?
One note here, thought: the term “pharaoh” doesn’t equal “ruler of Egypt”. Only later rulers of Egypt (especially in the New Kingdom) were called pharaohs. Before them, there was more than thousand of years history of Egyptian rulers who weren’t called that way.
This lady position is very euro-centred, nor does she believe in a ‘Black Egypt’
And agin therefore must raise the issues of ‘perspectives’
Mira – I had made some earlier posts on the same thing. Many Meditteraneans/Southern Europeans from today would not have passed the paper bag test. Now imagine the ones with coarser/curlier hair!!!
In fact, if you play this “time/slip” scenario, many “Whites” today would not have been considered White in the earlier days of the segrated U.S South. (which is sadly all too much a part of recent history.)
There is still this ‘ethnocentric’ tendency to formulate this debate according to U.S standards
I think if you used the ‘Arab model’ for race, then the Egyptians could ultimately be any shade of skin under the sun.
There is also another aspect to this topic in that talk of a Black Egypt and/or Egypt being an African civilisation is only a recent phenomena, in Western academia, and in fact slowly represents a recent paradigm shift/or theory change.
For much of the study of Egyptology in Western academia has outrightly rejected any Black/African influences of Egypt from 1800s (with a few dissenting voices here and there).
With regard to my own comments:
And ag[a]in therefore must raise the issues of ‘perspectives’
I had a look at the blog and its just as I expected her to be
“The Caucasian appearance of some Ethiopians is in a large part due to their Eruasian (here read NOT Black/African) ancestry”.
“It is also notable that the Amhara of Ethiopia speak a Semitic language close to Arabic, different from the Hamitic languages of their neighbours (Somali, Tigray, Oromo, etc). So the Amhara would appear to be the product of migrants from Arabia mixing with native Ethiopians”.
There are a number of issues here which are been conflated from the ‘perspective’ you are utilising vis-a-vis an African centred perspective.
There had been interaction between ‘Arabia’ and ‘Ethiopia’ for many thousands of years, considering that the two regions are only separated by a relatively small stretch of water.
However, there are some scholars who suggest if you go back in antiquity, you will see Arabia (or parts of it at least) as merely as an extension of Ethiopian territory.
This is why it is suggested that the Queen of Sheba either originated in Ethiopia and/or Saba (ie Arabia)
As for Hamitic languages this term is no longer prevalent, but I do understand the suggestion, which is also part of the conflation in my humble opinion.
With regard to ‘Semitic’ languages. It is also suggested by some scholars like C. Ehret amongst others that the Semetic language in fact originated in Africa and spread to places like the ‘Middle East’.
Just to say that Mathilda’s blog rejects this supposition.
@ J:
“The Caucasian appearance of some Ethiopians is in a large part due to their Eurasian (here read NOT Black/African) ancestry”.
I would take that to mean that Ethiopians have both black African AND Eurasian ancestry. No serious anthropologist would say that they are not black African, but it’s also pretty obvious from genetic studies, and just by looking at Ethiopian faces, that some of their distant ancestors were of a SW Asian phenotype.
Regarding the Arabian/Ethiopian connection:
Let’s just take it as given that populations on the Arabian peninsula have been more Caucasian in appearance and those on the African side of the Red Sea have been more black.
Regarding Semitic languages originating in Africa:
The Afro-Asiatic family almost certainly does come from NE Africa originally. But the Semitic branch of it seems to have migrated out to the Middle East, which would make Amharic a back migration into Africa.
on Sat Mar 27th 2010 at 16:01:19 J
With regard to Ethiopians having Eurasian features. I think Mathilda’s blog is very clear about this point that she views Blacks as being of a certain type.
This type of thinking reveals itself again in her blog about the Andamese although she refers to them as ‘Negritos’. she says
“They look very out of place in the Indian ocean, physically they look a lot like pygmies, with jet black black skin, peppercorn hair and ocassionally steatopygous buttocks on the women. BUT AS FAR AS DNA GOES THEY ARE DEFINITELY ASIAN”
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/08/the-jarawa-onge-and-sentinelese-of-the-andaman-islands/
And just one other thing when we speak of the movement of language it in fact tells us nothing about the ‘race’ of people using that language.
With regard to Afro-Asiatic or Semitic language. It is believed by some that the Sabean (Arabia) script used in Aksum (Ethiopia) is derived from there.
However, this is NOT the same as saying ‘Semitic language’ has its origin in the’Middle east’.
The problem is that this information does not tell us whether it was derived from the Ethiopians that resided there, other Blacks, ‘Semitic people’ (if I am allowed to use and get away with this), or even Caucasoid in the region?
Nor does it take into account whether the ‘Semitic language’ was taken from parts of N.E. Africa to the Middle East and then subsequently re-introduced back into places like Aksum (Ethiopia) etc
This issue is highlighted in the quote below
“…It is also not known whether the adoption of the language was due to an early pre-historic migration of peoples from across the Red Sea or due to acculturation as a result of Arabian conquest of the pre-Aksumite state or some other close association. In time the language became less like South Arabian and evolved through an intermediate language called Ge’ez into the modern languages of Amharic, Tigre and Tigrinya (Connah, 1987)”.
http://ezinearticles.com/?A-Civilization—African-and-Arab&id=3305669
on Sat Mar 27th 2010 at 16:05:42 Mira
Well, basically, I agree with Abagond:
I mean, isn’t that how it went?
on Sun Mar 28th 2010 at 00:58:19 Eurasian Sensation
what she says about Andaman Negritos is technically correct. In phenotype they look more like Africans than anything else. But DNA-wise, they are more closely related to Asians.
Your point about the movement of language is very true and shows how it is tricky to talk about language as an indicator of population movement.
One complicating factor about reading and interpreting Mathilda’s blog, or indeed any of the comments here including yours and mine, is that we are trying to come to conclusions not just about what the writer thinks, but also dealing with the way they are trying to explain it to the reader. I mean, in this conversation between you and I, we have thrashed out the meaning of “black” even though I suspect we were sort of on the same page all along. So bear in mind Mathilda is also trying to write for an audience and put it in terms they will understand. If a writer has to constantly qualify what “black” or “African” means, it becomes a clumsy read, so the writer will often assume their reader has a certain understanding of it, rightly or wrongly.
@ Mira,
As far as I understand it, no. Bear in mind that the East Africans who left Africa gave rise to ALL non-Africans. And it was a LONG time ago – we are talking anywhere up to 120,000 years ago by some estimates. And it is unclear how many such major migrations we are talking about.
At that point, these people wouldn’t have looked Caucasian at all. If anything, they looked most like modern Africans, yet different – Africans that stayed in Africa continued to evolve and change in appearance.
The people who left Africa first settled the coastal fringe of Asia and then Australia, then gradually moved inland.
The phenotype we call Caucasian (or West Eurasian) would not have evolved until much later, possibly 30,000 years ago, in Europe or Western Asia. This would have been due to various selection factors, including the environment – dry and cold ice age environments would favor lighter skin, thinner lips and smaller nostrils, in contrast to the tropical people in Africa and Asia.
I’m not sure why there seems to be an assumption by some on this thread that prehistoric migration was only in one direction – out of Africa. Clearly the initial movement of people was, but once non-African people started to get a foothold in SW Asia, it is only logical that they would spread out into the most accessible parts of the African continent – along the northern coast and down the fertile Nile Valley. This would have happened a number of times, including when the development of agriculture in the Levant caused a population surge and demand for new territories to farm.
The drying up of the Sahara appears to have been an obstacle to population movements north and south. This would allow Caucasian genes to spread east-west with some ease, but not penetrate further south except in the areas along the Nile Valley. Likewise, black African gene flow to the northern coast was also limited by the expanding desert.
Thus Egypt and Ethiopia were prime locations for mixed populations to occur.
on Sun Mar 28th 2010 at 02:09:28 J
Just to say that nothing could be further from the truth about the Andamese being ‘African’ by ‘race’ and Asian (with epicanthic fold) by DNA.
This is the classic ‘euro centred’ rhetoric used by anthropologists in the past but re-jigged in a modern way.
And I do not know if you are aware of the African centred position and theory of how Blacks populated the globe (including Asia)? Where the White/Caucasoid originated from?? Why it was necessary for them to originate?? The origins of the Mongoloid race and so forth.
However, I would humbly suggest that you read those and then compare and contrast thae evidence that you have before you with waht you have learned from a euro-centred perspective.
got a link to that African-centred perspective that you can recommend? (Save me a bit of time sifting through the net, which will have plenty of dubious stuff no doubt)
I have no doubt that the people who left Africa and populated Asia were black. But if the Andamanese and say, Chinese, were descended from the same migration, that makes them more closely related to each other than to Africans.
Since modern humans are most ancient in Africa, the greatest diversity in genetics occurs there. As I understand it, all non-Africans are more closely related to each other than to Africans, because they descend from one genetic type that left Africa.
I was hoping you would not ask this question ha ha
However, I will search the net (since I am reluctant to type from books) and do my very best to answer your request.
put it down to me being a bit lazy and a bit busy.
But also I’m aware that Afrocentric takes on scientific thought can run the gamut from reasonable to totally out-there whacko sort of stuff. So I’d prefer not to waste my time sifting through the latter, to get to the good stuff.
1. The dispersal of humanity across the globe – a tutorial and very handy tool
http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/index.html
2. African presence in Early Europe p. 306 a summary of human evolution in a very few words, and origin of races etc
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=JMY1p0t_bHoC&printsec=frontcover&dq=african+presence+in+early+europe&source=bl&ots=T-lC92lwHW&sig=c9s-J591L01c8w6P2kUbNtATmnk&hl=en&ei=Z9yuS_inOYei0gSChJGCDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CBoQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=&f=false
3. A TV show split into many shows . You will have to watch it all and fit the jigsaw together
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=incredible+human+journey&search_type=&aq=1
4 . Origin of Whites see p. 152
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=lkEizT86Kq8C&pg=PA111&lpg=PA111&dq=Diop+origins+of+Whites&source=bl&ots=HC9gcP9YMI&sig=Vg-Qw2jk_llYKEabZWZymNFJWKQ&hl=en&ei=182uS9X_Foj40wTUq5WYDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CB8Q6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Diop%20origins%20of%20Whites&f=false
5. Origins of Mongoloid
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/China_2.htm
6. Finally in Africa? Egypt, from Diop to Celenko – discussing the issue of Caucasian influences and the issue of euro-centred thinking on Egypt – our dialogue
http://wysinger.homestead.com/finally.html
7. Caucasoid subraces – Somalis (old anthropological view akin to Mathilda’s position)
http://racialreality.110mb.com/subraces.html
Here are some links. I am sure you are aware that its not merely a case of reading the links and ‘accepting’ or ‘rejecting’ them as the case may be. Its a case of undertaking a further and much longer journey of research for yourself.
Sorry ColorofLuv,
Just seen your post,
“J – sometimes I’m not sure I follow you.. and so forth”
I am not sure whether I can explain this or not??
Here we go, nevertheless
The reason why genetics is NOT important is because as Diop said on the molecular level an African can be closer to someone in Europe, say Sweden which is a thousand miles away, than another ‘African’ who is on the same continent, a few hundred miles away.
The problem with who are the Egyptian is that it is tied into the assumption that there is strictly only one type of Black person in the world, there are NO variants in the race ie ‘The Negro type’??
This ‘true Black/Negro’ is the only type that exist in the real world. So any time Western academia came across groups of ‘humans’ who looked ‘Black’, either in Africa or outside the continent. They could easily argue these are NOT Blacks, even if they may ‘appear’ so – is because the only yardstick is the ‘true Black Negro’, and nothing else
I hope this makes sense, if not, take a look at
Hope this has clarified somewhat
on Mon Mar 29th 2010 at 02:07:22 Eurasian Sensation
@ J: I haven’t had a chance to go through much of what you have linked. But let me say I first looked at the one about the origin of Asian peoples, and it wasn’t a good start.
Some of the leaps of faith and logic in that article are so great that it undermines anything else that may be even closely related to the truth within it. A Japanese shogun being a black man?
on Mon Mar 29th 2010 at 02:26:45 J
…Then I humbly submit that I think you should forget trying to read any of the direct links I sent you.
I sent you links with a precis what each link is about.
If one is being o’pen-minded’. Then it should not have been that difficult to read those parts of the link which I have highlighted regarding the origin of races, evolution etc.
Our topic of discussion was NOT about the discussion of the Black Shogun of Japan, whether real or mythology.
If I had wanted to discuss this topic then I would have posted this link
http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/shogun.html
and the we could have had a discussion.
Thanks for notifying me that you had not yet managed to read any of the links yet. Honestly, I had NOT even seen that part about the Black Shogun, and I had to go through the respective links.
It appears inadvertently, or otherwise that in an attempt to utilise the ‘fallacy of ridicule’. You have revealed inadvertently your sub-conscious/unconscious processes and more importantly that your ‘mind is closed’.
This being the current situation then we both can stop the pursuit of our discussion on the evolution of races and what constitutes them, rather than some other topic which was never even part of the debate.
on Mon Mar 29th 2010 at 05:56:11 The Great White Man
Ancient Egyptians were not black, although Nubians ruled for less than a hundred years before they were pushed back down south.
North Africa has always been caucasian, black people are from sub-Saharan Africa..bottom line.
If black people want to celebrate ancient egypt as an African civilization then they are entitled to it..but if they want to celebrate AE as some sort of “Black” history then they cannot.
Afrocentric Snake-Oil salesmen have brainwashed these self-haters into believing this crap..smh
Just like mofos like Ivan Van Sertima, claiming Africans sailed the high-seas and brought civilization to the Amerindians and traded with them…SMH
AND YET NOT ONE ISLAND OFF THE COAST OF AFRICA WAS EVER COLONIZED, EXPLORED OR IDENTIFIED, INCLUDING THE BIGGEST ISLAND IN THE WORLD MADAGASCAR..*SHAKES
HEAD*
IN FACT THE CANARY ISLANDS OFF THE COAST OF WEST AFRICA WERE POPULATED BY WHITE NORDIC PEOPLE WITH BLONDE HAIR AND BLUE EYES CALLED THE GAUNCHES!!!!!
WAKE UP AFROCENTRIC LOONS…REALITY IS CALLING!!!
LMWAO
Herneith is distorting ancient historical writings..SMH Just like all Afrocentrics..SMH
Here is truth:
Herodotus is actually very specific about the Ethiopians (black Africans) getting control of the Nile at Elephantine, and differentiates between them and Egyptians.
“After this man the priest enumerate to me from a papyrus the names of other Kings, three hundred and thirty in number; and in all these generations of men eighteen were Ethiopians, one was a woman and the rest were men and of Egyptian race.”-Herodotus
Other Ancient Greek and Roman quotes.
The Ethiopians stain the world and depict a race of men steeped in darkness; less sun-burnt are the natives of India; the land of Egypt, flooded by the Nile, darkens bodies more mildly owing to the inundation of its fields: it is a country nearer to us and its moderate climate imparts a medium tone.
Manilius, Astronomica 4.724
The appearance of the inhabitants is also not very different in India and Ethiopia: the southern Indians are rather more like Ethiopians as they are black to look on, and their hair is black; only they are not so snub-nosed or woolly-haired as the Ethiopians; the northern Indians are most like the Egyptians physically.
Arrian, Indica 6.9
As for the people of India, those in the south are like the Aethiopians in color, although they are like the rest in respect to countenance and hair (for on account of the humidity of the air their hair does not curl), whereas those in the north are like the Egyptians.
Strabo, Geography 15.1.13
Black people resided not in the Nile valley but in a far land, by the fountain of the sun.
Xenpohanes (Hesoid, works and says, 527-8)
… the men of Egypt are mostly brown and black with a skinny desiccated look.
A little explanation required for this one, the term ‘brown’ means tanned. About 1/3 modern upper Egyptians would certainly have been called black by the Romans.
subfusucli {“somewhat dark/swarthy”)
Ammianus Marcellinus 22.16.23- from Black Athena revisited
And finally, of lower Nubians:
It was a market place to which the Ethiopians bring all the products of their country; and the Egyptians in their turn take them all away and bring to the same spot their own wares of equal value, so bartering what they have got for what they have not. Now the inhabitants of the marches (Nubian/Egyptians border) are not yet fully black but are half-breeds in matter of color, for they are partly not so black as the Ethiopians, yet partly more so than the Egyptians.
Afrocentrism is bogus!!!!!!
my comment wasn’t meant as disrespect, I’m grateful for those links. But I was also pointing out that in that particular link I mentioned, there is a lot that seems bogus. I can’t say that for the ones I haven’t read. But that particular one is very hard to take seriously.
I am open-minded, but a necessary part of being open-minded is having the bullshit meter turned on as well – there’s such a thing as being too open-minded.
Once I have a look at the others I may have different perspectives.
on Mon Mar 29th 2010 at 09:58:30 Mira
@The Great White Man
You’re obviously a troll who doesn’t know much, if anything, about ancient history and archaeology. Still, I’ll reply to your posts, no matter how ridiculous they sound.
Are you aware of the fact that Nubia and Egypt shared the border that changed throughout history? There’s no way one of them could be snow white and other black, when they’re neighbourhood countries.
Sure. But where does this say “Egyptians were white” and “Ethiopians were black”?
Same goes for other quotes. Noting physical differences is not the same as making division between races!!!
Thanks Eurasian S,
However, it still does NOT explain how we moved from the origin of humans, colour of their skin, emergence of other races, and how Egypt/N.E Africans came to be classified as Whites-Hamites/Caucasoid, and the issue of a Black Shogun?? Inadvertently or otherwise this is a ‘red herring’ introduced in the debate. Or at the very least a reflection of some other thought processes on your part.
Since it is strange you never read the links but the one you did mange to have a brief look at at, did not even cover our topic matter – but rather the Black Shogun
I did NOT take it as a disrespect to be honest. I just wished I did not tke the time to find the appropriate link, highlighting the necessary pages in some instances and a precis is what the link is about.
If you see my original post. I am NOT trying to convince you of anything. My only position is that you are using and accepting ‘euro centred’ and sometimes ‘racist’ assumptions. However, you seem to be unaware of this possibility, whilst at the same time critiquing ‘Afrocentrics’ not on the merits of its theory, but by thome same euro-centred perspectives that you hold .
So this is why I said:
However, I would humbly suggest that you read those and then compare and contrast the evidence that you have before you with what you have learned from a euro-centred perspective.
and to pre-empt your last post, I went on to say
So I still stand by my position that perhaps its best if you do NOT read them. Since its not necessary to come back here to ‘prove’ and/or ‘disprove’ the theories correct.
Afterall this is a chatboard, where the emphasis is more on rather ‘reinforcing’ existing ideas than it being a place of self-development and ‘growth’…
on Tue Mar 30th 2010 at 13:41:47 The Great White Man
Abagond..SMH I see you like to delete the truth.
Nobody said AE were white!!!
They’re north african caucasian
Blacks come from the south…..
North Africa has and always been CAUCASIAN!!!
Wake up Afrocentrics…..Reality is calling
If you are going to serve truth with name-calling, yes, I will delete it.
I have a comment policy. Read it.
on Thu Apr 1st 2010 at 05:53:45 The Great White Man
Egyptians are not ARAB, not European nor sub-Saharan African…They are egyptians!!
Stop stealing peoples history!
on Fri Apr 9th 2010 at 17:04:15 J
With regard to King Tuts DNA by Z. Hawass a few weeks ago. We were mistakened to believe was doing a test for racial origins.
Press Release – The Discovery of the Family Secrets of King Tutankhamun
http://www.drhawass.com/blog/press-release-discovery-family-secrets-king-tutankhamun
on Fri Apr 9th 2010 at 17:59:30 ColorOfLuv
A disappointment to say the least… Gee, I wonder why those results have been posted. Surely they are there.
correction: “certain DNA results that have NOT been posted.”
on Mon Apr 12th 2010 at 15:39:10 J
on Sat Apr 17th 2010 at 19:26:22 Kirk
Whites came from Adam.
The rest are the Pre-Adamites here long before white folks.
on Mon Apr 19th 2010 at 22:18:04 curlan campbell
first i will start off by saying that it is wrong to falsify history and document it dishonestly,well this was certainly done by europian ‘whites’ .there is wide evidents that the egyptian in ancient times were black african so this really pisses me off when movies and TV shows display egyptians as ‘white’ . and another thing national geographic explorer should be ashamed of themselves portraying the same lie and stealing what is solely belonging to africans such as gold,statues and tombs of ancient egypt. i believe that this lie whould be revailed to all but until then i would do my part as being an african decendent to tell everyone of my people the turth about our rich history of beauty and power which was then is certainly now. power to the blacks.
on Wed Apr 28th 2010 at 22:55:22 lynn
what about the clothing. the Indians choice of clothing suits their look.Although some one white or black may try their choice of clothing it never suits them.its the same thing with the Chinese and the Africans. the colours the Africans use in their clothing brings out their skin colour and enhances it. looking at the colours ancient Egyptians used i think they were dark skinned. when white people wear the colours it doesn’t enhance their skin but the gold, brown and other earth tone colours on a black persons skin brings out the colour nicely. Try looking at a pic of the two races side by side in the same Egyptian colours and clothing and see which they suit best. also one should not compare ancient Egyptian people to the modern ones now as there are a lot of interracial marriages and movement around the world. the same way cultures around the world specifically choose clothing that enhances their skin tone and individual looks i think the Egyptians chose clothing and colours most flattering to their skin.as for why blacks aren’t as dominant as they were then is because of slavery we must also remember that Africa itself was naturally rich as well as the Caribbean, until the whites came fought and took away its riches and wealth for themselves and took some of the surviving as slaves.the slave girls were often raped producing the mixture of skin tones we see today. just as they are a variety of white skin so is it with the black as well.
another reason why i believe they were dark skinned was how well they survived. black skin can stay in the sun very long without complications such as sunburn or skin cancer the same cannot be said about the white race and this had a lot to do with where they lived.
on Fri Jun 18th 2010 at 08:02:36 Alan B'Stard M P
Egyptians have never been black. Look at the ancient art and hyroglifics
They were and are a semitic people, same as authentic Jews and Arabs, and dark featured, not negriod
There would have been interaction between the two people’s at some level
on Fri Jun 18th 2010 at 10:39:26 Mira
For the 32453254325th time:
1) Ancient art has nothing to do with it. You don’t have to portray people realistically- and cultures often don’t. Egyptians didn’t.
Not an interracial couple:
2) Race is cultural and not a biological fact.
well i did say there was interaction between them. There wouold have had to have been as they shared a common border.
They were semitic. not white
My point is that you can’t tell anything about their physical appearance based on their art. And plus, race is cultural.
Wrong on both counts. race is biological. You can tell a lot from the hyrogligifs as it’s a language
on Wed Jul 7th 2010 at 04:33:56 classyshonna
so, do you believe that all races originated in Africa?
on Wed Jul 7th 2010 at 07:29:00 sam
Quite honestly, I don’t think the acient egyptians gave this too much of tought. As a person who has been in Egypt and who has seen those small statues depicting both black and brown skinned soldiers in pharaos armies, I really don’t think they cared about such nonsense as race.
I think what they saw as egyptian was egyptian, and what was not under their control, was not. The nubians, the desert people and whom ever. Habiru’s were once egyptians, even in stone texts and not only in bible (habiru, hebrews). Who ever took the pharao as his/hers king and ruler, was egyptian. Much like (in principle at least) anyone who takes the oath and passes, becomes american citizen.
Here, once again, I see the american obsession on race at work. I might be wrong here but for me this looks just the same. Instead of talking abput egyptians, which they were after all, people ask; yeah, but what race??? Who cares? They were egyptians. And I think they both “black” and “white” and between.
And classyshosanna, I know that all the human beings came originally from Africa.
1. On Mon 28 Dec 2009 at 16:56:28 J
2. on Wed 30 Dec 2009 at 22:04:37 jefflion
3. on Wed 30 Dec 2009 at 22:08:31 Mira
So as I said it was because it as an ‘afrocentric’ perspective why you disagreed with it.
In essence you are very similar to Thad who is always doing his best to fight down ‘African centred’ scholarship.
And if one takes a precursory glance at the rest of your earlier comments. i think it is hard to refute that contention.
And this is why I suggested on another thread the information is valid, but because of your ‘eurocentricism’ you cannot accept it, and hence why I produce facts that do not support my contention.
Once again it would have been better, if you just came out and said so. However, there is the problem that ‘eurocentricism’ is the ‘only way’, and hence you could not say so – even if you wanted to.
In which way was what I said against afrocentrism?
Or let me rephrase that: in which way is claiming that Egyptians were the same as Nubians afrocentric?
And Mira again:
1. on Tue 29 Dec 2009 at 16:31:00 dimples
2. And without you having the full evidence before you. You could surmise
2. on Tue 29 Dec 2009 at 17:43:43 Mira
I can’t open photos on that site.
3. on Wed 30 Dec 2009 at 22:58:54 J
With regard to (your comments):
What I meant is that all we know about Egypt suggests that they didn’t see other people (Nubians, Libyans and Asiatic people) as one of their own. They were not Egyptians. End. Of. Story.
This is why I wrote: Egyptians would never never show themselves identical to another, foreign people.
Whether they were of similar or even “identical” physical appearance is irrelevant. It is important for us, today, but it was not important to them. They didn’t have races we have today in their culture. And everything we know about them suggest that they didn’t see Nubians as one of their own.
WHY would they, after all?
That’s why this interpretation of table of nations doesn’t make sense to me- why would they represent their enemies as one of their own?
In any case, you didn’t answer what makes this new interpretation (correct or not) Afrocentric.
Id this the “African-centered scholarship” promulgated by aryanist and anti-semite angry white man Michael Bradley, J?
Or perhaps it’s the “African-centered scholarship” of that white Hungarian nimrod you’ve recently cited, y’know, the guy who belongs to the very afro-centric, almost completely white Revolutionary Communist Party?
Or are we talking about the “African-centered scholarship” of the white supremacists over at Metapedia, who you’ve repeatedly linked us to as “authorities” on biological race?
I ask because you’ll note that I’ve never once trashed an “afro-centric” author whom you’ve listed (but I suspect never read) who wasn’t one of those clowns. I DO have some beefs with Diop, but they’re nothing to do with his valorization of Africa. Rather, they take umbrage with some of his obsolete views regarding the birth of civilization (views which most people of his generation had, white or black).
The point which I am demonstrating that you are against many of the links I post because they are ‘African centred’ and nothing else.
As for it being Afrocentric or not, I am afraid this is a rhetorical question. You have answered it already, when you said:
on Wed 30 Dec 2009 at 22:04:37 jefflion
“I am familiar with his work. I just wanted to read more about those “Table of nations” interpretations. Still doesn’t make sense to me, since it contradicts with everything we know about Ancient Egypt and all the other sources…[Here read from White eurocentred sources]”.
Forgive me here, I am not sure I can comment that much because I am not too sure you are conversant with Diop.
Except to be familiar with eurocentrics who are against African centred scholars and thimking per se.
If I was to ask you how many of his books you have read, just like Mira, it would be nil.
I am sure you are now going to suggest that you have read his full catalogue.
on Sat Jul 31st 2010 at 00:25:48 Mira
And that is exactly why I asked you to show me what makes them African centered. Because you say so? Because you like them? There doesn’t seem to be a clear criteria here, since you sometimes post white supremacist links and call them Afrocentric.
I asked you 2 times and you refused to answer a simple question: What makes this specific interpretation of table of nations Afrocentric?
As for it being Afrocentric or not, I am afraid this is a rhetorical question.
It’s not rhetorical, it does require an answer. You can’t claim I hate Afrocentrism if you can’t prove a specific idea or a link I disagree with is Afrocentric. And no, “because J likes it” doesn’t automatically make it Afrocentric.
[Here read from White eurocentred sources]“.
No, actually I was referring to Ancient Egyptian sources.
And if these are white and eurocentred to you, J, it’s your problem, not mine.
“And that is exactly why I asked you to show me what makes them African centered. Because you say so? Because you like them? ”
No!!! because the scholar who produced the work refers to himself as an ‘African centred scholar’ within that ‘tradition’
Its as simple as that, and renders much of what you say here as mere ‘rhetoric’.
Either way you are against African centred scholarship – and that was the point I wished to demonstrate from the other thread.
I think I have shown that this is the case, and which is very interesting since it shows how pervasive ‘eurocentricism education’ is across the world
And with regard to our various dialogues and even here.
You have revealed much that could fall into the post:
How to tell if a commenter is white pt 1 and 2
Hmmmmmmmmmm!!
So, if I refer to myself as an African centered scholar, I can write whatever I want and you’ll be ok with it?
Also, there are some people you link who definitely don’t call themselves Afrocentric. People who are, in fact, white supremacists, but you still like their ideas. Why you like to “side with the enemy” is beyond me.
I am not against African centred scholarship. And you still have to prove it. You have to show me how not agreeing with you makes me against Afrocentrism. Just like you have to prove how following Ancient Egyptian sources is Eurocentric.
From “how to tell if a commenter is white”:
#1 They bring up purple people: they say it does not matter to them if you are black, white, green or purple.
#2 They bring up the Arab slave trade.
When and where did I bring up these arguments?
Interesting. I’m not sure that you are conversant with Diop yourself, J. You talk a sweet line of bullsh##, but when it comes to any discussion of the contents of the man’s theories, you hop away like a little froggie.
So Michael Bradley, a white guy who’s an avowed anti-semite and Aryanist, is an “afrocentric”, as is a washed-up Hungarian communist who’s working within a strictly Marxist and incredibly Eurocentric (not to mention Social Darwinist) view of Africa? And Metapedia is an afrocentric view on race is it?
Because at various times, J, you’ve pointed out all of these authors and sources as “afrocentric” and, gee, I don’t recall either Bradley nor Metapedia referring to themselves as “afrocentric”.
But hell, if that’s all it takes to be an afrocentric scholar – self-referal – I’ll start referring to both Mira and myself as afro-centric scholars from now on.
Whatever your definition of “afro-centric”, we’re certainly more in that line than the Aryan supremacist Bradley or the ex-president of the RCP.
:D:D:D:D
Oh, and J? Just because you haven’t any higher formal education to speak of doesn’t mean that everyone who’s actually cracked a textbook or two is a “eurocentrist”. Your ignorance is no excuse to trash other peoples’ hard work.
Cheers for taking the time to quote from the aforesaid posts.
However, I am sure there are more than just two instances.
Be that as it may, however, when you suggest that I am taking random theories, which accord to my worldview, and then call them African centred is bordering on the absurd.
And could well fit in to the essence of the aforesaid two posts
Even for you to think this is one thing and to vocalise it reveals so much too.
Its a special type of ‘White reasoning’ vis-a-vis a Black person
You mean on “how to tell if a commenter is white” point 1 and 2? You said my views (expressed in previous posts, I guess) show that. But I am not sure how purple people and Arab trade have anything to do with what we discussed here – or elsewhere – these days. And I’m afraid you don’t know either.
I don’t think you take random theories, in a way you quote people whose book covers you like or something. I do, however, believe you are not educated enough in social sciences to understand terminology, methodology, etc. That is not a crime and that doesn’t mean you are not allowed to participate in discussions. However, if understanding archaeology (anthropology, history) is so easy, then why is specific formal education required for somebody to be an archaeologist?
Also, I honestly don’t know what is your world view. You say you’re pro-Africa in one comment but then you talk favorably about Stormfront in another.
Certainly less absurd than your claim that Aryan supremacist and anti-semite Michale Bradley is an afrocentric scholar.
J, there is only ONE reason why you made this claim re: Bradley: you dug his “iceman” theory and were too ignorant to realize that it’s an attack on JEWS. Bradley never claims to be an afrocentrist. His theory is not in the least afrocentric.
The ONLY thing that made Bradley afrocentric in your mind is that you like him and you know nothing about the history of racism. Anyone with half a functioning brain who was a sincere anti-racist, J, would start noticing things when Bradley started connecting judaism to this supposed super-evil Iceman race.
Not, J, however. Hell, Nazis, anti-semites, Aryanists… They’re all welcome in J’s Big Afrocentric Tent because J himself doesn’t know sweet f&&kall about either Africa or history.
I don’t think you take random theories, in a way you quote people whose book covers you like or something. I do, however, believe you are not educated enough in social sciences to understand terminology, methodology, etc.
…and let’s add history, biology, genetics, ethics, political science, black history, revolutionary theory and Africa to that list.
As far as I can see, what J knows about any given subject comes from reading review blurbs of books on the internet.
Forgive me there is no retraction. You had the high-handedness to suggest:
“And that is exactly why I asked you to show me what makes them African centered. Because you say so? Because you like them?”
…which is an absurd suggestion for a commentator, who has supposedly come here in ‘wolf as sheep clothing’, as a friend to POC
Much earlier, I referred to you as the female version of Thad.
While cutting and pasting for my last post, I managed to see this comment for the first time.
“…There doesn’t seem to be a clear criteria here, since you sometimes post white supremacist links and call them Afrocentric”.
Need I say anymore, and why you had to ask the question??
“Where is Thad, and you doubt if anyone really missed him??”
I am afraid your veil is slowly being removed Mira. Though strangely enough, as always on this blog, as we have seen with so many.
Its their own words that ‘entraps’ them and eventually leads to their ‘demise’.
Well, I was being sarcastic, yes, but only because that was the only logical explanation. And you still failed to explain how you choose your readings, what authors you trust, what ideas, what methodology you value. And you definitely didn’t mentioned books, articles and authors you DIDN’T like and authors you disagree with. Which makes me believe you didn’t read much at all. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
When did I say I was a wolf in a sheep clothing?
But it’s true, isn’t it? Remember a discussion a few weeks ago (I can’t remember where) when I asked you to confirm or deny Thad’s accusations of recommending white supremacist authors. You confirmed you did, in fact, liked said author. A few days ago you spoke favorably about Stormfront. So what’s the problem then? Why are you suddenly ashamed of it?
Now you are following your mentor Thad by changing tactic ie about being sarcastic.
Try another one!!!
Whilst here, would you like to explain what concerns do you have with African centred scholars. Since this seems rather evident in your thinking.
Good try. I explained to you I was referring to bradley’s book. and simply because it is not possible to find to find Diops two cradle theory on the net, and this is the closest you can do so on the net.
I also explained to you I did not even know Bradley had a site, nor have I been on it.
This you all conveniently forget to portray me like your mentor likes to as a ‘fascist’.
Earlier you lied and suggested I used the words ‘black traitor’ and now once again you are lying
As I said I am surprised no-one on this board has exposed you, for what you are.
The White Woman Tears had conveniently protected you until you had decided to use the UM scenario to your own ends, but it has self-imploded.
As I said you are a ‘racist’ no different from the others that visit this board
Let me quickly change ‘Black’ to ‘race traitor’ or we will have a smokescreen surrounding this very issue
As I shake my head.
I believe I explained my views on Afrocentrism not once, but several times. Most of the times you commented, so I am surprised you don’t remember.
But here it is. The only concern I have is that Afrocentrism sometimes turns out to be Eurocentrism. Many of the authors were raised and/or educated in the west or in western schools. Not the best start for Afrocentrism. Also, they were all born in our world, which is, no matter where you live, eurocentric and you can’t escape that.
So eurocentric way of thinking can show in their work, which is not something, I assume, Afrocentrism should do.
In short: I don’t have problem with Afrocentrism being radical; I have a problem it’s not radical enough.
But that Bradley’s crap is beyond words, and it’s not even Afrocentric, it’s quite opposite of it. Just my opinion, of course.
A poor excuse for a site with a personal ad before “scientific” text, you mean? (But ok, I believe you didn’t know about it).
I never said you were a fascist (though talking favorably about Stormfront is definitely not something I like).
You did use term “race traitor” several times here (not in this thread) and I was unaware you’re ashamed of it.
Luckily, we have you here to expose me.
What white woman tears? I never behaved in such a way (cried and asked for a male protection). No white (or black) knights in shining armour came to my rescue. WTF are you talking about?
And what is UM scenario?
PS-If you were the one giving me a pass because I’m a white woman then you should really, really re-think about what you’re doing.
You are correct, I am more than familiar than your orientation.
I just wanted you to write
“The only concern I have is that Afrocentrism sometimes turns out to be Eurocentrism”
Since as POC knows Eurocentricism is just another byword for racism’, which implies this is what Afrocentricism is also another variant of racism.
This is aa similar argument used by your mentor Thad when he suggests that Black political thought will lead to ‘fascism’.
It takes the presumption that because Whites are racist, Blacks will also become racist by reacting to ‘racism’.
Steve Biko referred to this as the classic White liberal thinking, to keep Blacs in a position of ‘inferiority’ and I posted his thoughts somewhere on this blog.
No, no. It’s not what I meant. I didn’t mean “afrocentrism is like eurocentrism” in a way that it’s a racist way of thinking that favores blacks the same way eurocentrism favores whites. I wrote what I meant: Afrocentrism sometimes uses Eurocentric ideas, in their pure form- which means it doesn’t go against whites (like you suggest), but against blacks, like Eurocentrism often does.
These aspects make Afrocentrism racist towards black people.
“No, no. It’s not what I meant”.
Pull the other one……..!!
But J, that is seriously, honestly, not what I meant. The above explanation I gave you several times and you always decide to ignore it. Your right, but you are not allowed to twist my words.
So bottom line from my previous comment: These aspects make Afrocentrism racist towards black people.
As for your psychoanalysis, I can see I am either hitting a nerve or you have a lot of time on your hands.
J, you live in a privileged place and you definitely don’t know what is like to live where I live, or to grow up where I grew up. At the end of the day, my people did nothing wrong to your people; but your people did ugly things to my people. So before you start to analyze somebody try to think a bit first (thinking of your own privilege is never a bad thing). And I won’t even dignify part about sexual attraction with an answer.
on Sat Jul 31st 2010 at 04:17:14 Eurasian Sensation
I always enjoy your contributions to these discussions, but with your sudden need to attack Mira, I think you need to pull your head in.
I don’t know what’s in Mira’s head, but based on her comments on many posts, she is generally fair-minded. And as far as I know she is the only one on here who has qualification in Archaeology. Which doesn’t mean she must be right, but I think her opinions are worthy of respect when talking about a subject such as this.
As far as I can see, Mira’s views on all of Abagond’s posts are much along the same lines as most of the black commenters, including you. Then, as soon as she disagrees with you on this one issue, she is a “wolf in sheep’s clothing”, only pretending to be a friend to POC?
Take this as constructive feedback from a friend: that’s some bullsh!t on your part.
If someone disagrees with you, they disagree with you. That’s not racism. And if someone analyses the evidence and concludes that they don’t agree 100% with the “Afrocentric approach”, that’s not racism either. But I’m afraid to say that you are conflating all these things here.
on Sat Jul 31st 2010 at 05:15:29 abagond
I have to agree with Eurasian. Of my regular white commenters Mira is by far the most fair-minded. It is rather strange you would go after her of all people.
It is perfectly fine to disagree with what someone says or show why it is racist. But with Natasha and Mira you have gone beyond that into making personal remarks. That is completely uncalled for and is, besides, an ad hominem attack. It does not matter whether what you say about them is true, it is still an ad hominem.
Maybe Natasha and Mira are affected by white racism in their views. Fine. But show that from the statement of their views, NOT from what you know of their personal life.
I think it was you who said that RR claims to be black to protect himself from ad hominems so he can get a fair hearing for his views. Well, everyone regardless of race or the race of their boyfriend should get that hearing and not have their personal life brought in to discredit them. That is just plain low.
on Sat Jul 31st 2010 at 06:40:22 sam
I don’t think egyptians thoughed themselves as anything else. After I visited Egypt some years agi and studied the acient monuments etc. I came to conclusion that Egypt was not that much about race or color definition. You can see it clearly just by lookin at any portrait of human they made.
Now, to claim that egyptians were white is about as funny as to say that the earth was created roughly 4000 yrs ago. It is pure nonsense. The old egyptians were mixed folks. They were partly punic immigrants (from the land of Punt somewhere in the East of Nile in the land of Rising Sun. Beyond the Red Sea??), native peoples who lived in the Nile valley before them, and the much more black people from the Upper Nile, present day Sudan.
When you look at their miniature models of soldiers, foot soldiers that is, you see all kinds of colors mixed in neat troops. There are totally black units from Nubia too, but in the “regular” pharaonic armies there were guys from black to light brown side by side. If you look at their drawings and paintings it is absolutely clear. There are all kinds of colors, from the lightest brown to black.
So to claim they were white as in Europe, that is pure nonsense. They were not. But at the same time one has to remember how the egyptians saw themselves. They made a clear distinction between themselves and tribes on Upper Nile or to the west in Nubia. Egyptians did not see themselves as part of the “black african” sphere. On the contrary, the draw a very clear line between the southern tribes and themselves. So the afrocentric simplistic view is also nonsense. Likie abagond writes in the “motives”, afrocentristic view is based on political motivation, not in history.
So what is my take on this? Egyptians were of mixed “race”. Only the pharaonic families were “pure” because they married sisters and brothers etc. Other than that I belive “egyptian” was an identity. It did not matter that much what was your skin color if you were seen as egyptian or recongnized as such. Hence the multiple colors on the people in their drawings and pictures.
I think the whole race issue came much more later, at the dawn of the egyptology. Eurocentric scientists wanted to see egyptians as somekind of white. And in the last century afrocentric movement wanted to see them as black. And the one drop idea gave them the bragging rights and long faces for whites. But that is mainly an american debate. I don’t think too many historians nor scientists even think about this. For it is more than clear to anybody with pair of somehow operational eyes, that the acient egyptians were not snow white dandies.
@ sam:
I agree. Given Egypt’s geographical location, and how the fertile Nile Valley would provide a likely conduit for the movement of peoples northward and southward, it is logical to imagine that Egypt was populated by a mix of numerous groups from both Africa and SW Asia.
ES,
Cheers for your input.
What we have here nonetheless is a White person trying to suggest that I have ‘fascist’ tendencies, following her mentor.
The aim is to ‘discredit’ anything which I have said and ultimately African centred thinking
However, if we being fair and honest, if she is going to suggest this inadvertently or otherwise, then she must have her facts correct.
You can’t begin to tell lies and then you come on here and refer to ‘constructive criticisms’
Forgive me ES, your ‘even-handedness’ has a place but it also fails to adminster ‘justice’ when a debate is clearly unfair and there is an undertone beyond the mere words on a computer screen.
Cheers Abagond,
If we being honest. I have to disagree with you.
I sense you have a ‘thing’ for merely defending and protecting the ladies on this blog.
Obviously you do not want to be losing contributors
Why do I say this??
If anyone should feel ‘moral outrage’ it should be Thad.
And if you were being consistent. You would have mentioned this earlier.
What was said of Natasha and Mira in my opinion is the ‘truth’ – and as we know that is very ‘painful’.
This why ‘individuals’ cannot grow.
Back to my point.
I have continuously made reference to Thad’s partner.
The reason why I have done that is because I have always wondered, if Thad is like that away from the pc screen, then that Black woman has to be strong to endure such thinking. Or in my opinion lacking race consciousness’.
If anything, you should have come here and said do not mentionhis partner, because
1. She is not here to defend hereself
2. She has not spoken to you directly.
However, in this instance because of your ‘animosity’ toward Thad. You have problems extending such ‘grace’ towards him.
And what do you mean when you suggest:
“It does not matter whether what you say about them is true, it is still an ad hominem”
This is bordering on the absurd.
I can remember when you were hypothetically explaining a situation and you referred to Thad’s partner as a 4 legged creature
Now I am asking you to think about your actions.
Thank you, Abagond.
Also, please note I never said I wasn’t affected by white racism in my views. I never claimed to be completely free of any racism.
As for:
I never said you were a fascist. I said you recommended works by white supremacists. There’s a difference. To be honest, I think you didn’t understand his work and you mistaken it for Afrocentrism or something. (And yes, I might be wrong and we can discuss why you think it’s not the case).
1. You lied on the other thread.
2. With regard:
“You recommended a quote by a White Supremacist scholar”.
The key point about Bradley was he a White Supremacist when he wrote his book critiquing the White race, some 33 years ago??
3. You found yourself in this position because you followed Thad’s agenda, and its not the first time you have done so either, with regard to discussion of race.
These are the facts what we have before us.
And furthermore it is not clear to me how Bradley can be a
‘White Supremacist’.??
White Supremacists argue that the White race is the ‘best’ and special in God’s creation and all other races are inferior.
Bradley -who himself is White – argues that White people and their racism is the anomaly on the planet, and this is what makes them ‘special’ in a very bad way.
With regard to his views regarding Jews as per his second book that is a different subject matter where Thad and yourself may well want to have a discussion over.
Where and about what? About Bradley?
It is not a key point about him. But it is confusing to me that you’d claim to be Afrocentric AND recommend somebody like him, and then come back and call people who disagree white supremacist. You can recommend any author or a book and it doesn’t have to be Afrocentric, of course- but I was very confused. It’s like a Jew recommending “Mein Kampf”- not something I’d expect.
This is a lousy definition of a white supremacist. You said yourself one doesn’t need to believe any of this and be white supremacist.
No. Bradley- from what I’ve seen- basically argues that people who had Neanderthals as their ancestors are more aggressive and prone to violence.
And people who, in his opinion, have Neanderthal genes are not whites but Jews. (And yes, I know Jews are considered white, but Bradley never accused other whites, you know, those who were really colonists… Just Jewish genes).
So the way I interpret Bradley (and I might be wrong and we can discuss) is: Jews did it. We (white people) are not guilty of anything, those were evil Jew genes in us, so you n…. that complain should direct your anger at Jews and leave us alone. It’s not our fault!
And this leads me on to the connection between Bradley and Diop.
Thad take note.
I am not going to give you all the information which I know you have been searching hard for:
Diop on Two Cradle Theory and origins of racism/white supremacy
Q: What is your opinion of Cress Theory of Color Confrontation??
Diop: “There is absolutely no doubt that the white race…was the product of depigmentation….c. 30,000BC…
However, there can be no doubt that the ‘cultural outlook’ of these ‘proto-whites’ was eventually conditioned during the glacial epoch…
Molded by their environmental cradle these early whites developed a social consciousness of xenophobia (ie fear of strangers) and patriarchal organization.
I think what Dr Welsing has accurately assessed is that at the origins of racism we are to find a definite defensive reflex….
By counterdistinction, we have no evidence that blacks in ancient times and right down to the medieval epoch developed any such behavioural attitudes in their relationship to other races…
I feel this needs to be studied carefully. What I find remarkable is that in the individual attitude of Blacks towards other races there’s a different approach. Blacks are not ‘racist’.Blacks are not afraid of ethnic contacts.
Whites are…
What is quite evident…is that xenophobia is definitely an entrenched trait of European cultures from way back. I think most European scholars would agree with me on this…”
Also, please note that Iceman Inheretance is labeled “Prehistoric Sources of Western Man’s Racism…”- not White man’s racism.
Your lie was suggesting I called the commentators ‘race traitors’ even when I showed you otherwise
You hardly know nothing of Bradley, you are quoting your mentor, to defend all things that are ‘White’.
Please try and get your facts corrects first, it would be helpful to have a meaningful conversation.
Here is Bradley’s Book, take a note of the title:
Iceman Inheritance : Prehistoric Sources of Western Man’s Racism, Sexism and Aggression
This should tell you what the book is about.
If you still do not understand it:
Here is a review
Michael Bradley delves back into our glacial past during the last Ice Age in order to find the prehistoric sources of the white race’s aggression, racism and sexism.
Relying on the researches of Alexander Marshack, Carleton Coon, Konrad Lorenz, S.L. Washburn, Ralph Solecki and others, Bradley offers a persuasive argument that the white race, the Neanderthal-Caucasoids, are more aggressive than others because of ancient sexual maladaptation.
And, in tracing the effects of Caucasian aggression, Bradley offers an uncomfortable and all-too-plausible explanation for the pattern of human history
http://www.amazon.com/Iceman-Inheritance-Prehistoric-Sources-Aggression/dp/1879831007
Que: How different is that to the idea suggested by Diop, which I have quoted for the first time.
These are the type of ideas that White people will ever want to rarely discuss – and with good reasons too.
The Diop quote had nothing to do with what Bradley wrote. It’s maybe about the same topic, but it’s not the same.
In short, Diop says: “whites developed xenophobia and blacks didn’t”. Bradley says: “Neanderthal genes in Jews were violent and made all the mess!”
He’s basically letting western whites off the hook with this, and blame it everything on Jews and people of Eastern Europe and Caucus- people who, let me refresh your memory, never colonized Africans and were often victims themselves. On the other hand, he argues that western Europeans don’t have this “evil” DNA.
And again wrong! aS i said I can understand your need like Thad to defend things ‘White’
However, and irrespective of what Abagond might suggest, that conversation should be on ‘facts’, not what is comforting or pleasing to the ears. Otherwise any such talk on this blog is ‘superfluous’
I can Google and I can read reviews. I don’t need you for that. I need you to give me additional info on the book (since you read it, right?), something I can’t find by Googling, so we can discuss. I am sure you’d be more than happy to do that, since we all know that info provided on the book covers and in reviews is not enough. And since I can’t afford to buy this book, I am sure you’d be more than happy to explain what Bradley really said with the book, about his methodology and interpretations. I’m all ears.
Also, I did read the title: it says WESTERN man’s aggression, not WHITE man’s aggression.
And again wrong!
What do you mean wrong? You said it yourself: the title is “Prehistoric Sources of Western Man’s Racism, Sexism and Aggression”.
You want me to administer justice? I’ll call it as I see it; I told Thad he was out of line when he was enthusiastically targeting you recently on the Negritos post, and when he was getting nasty towards leigh204. And now I’ll tell you that you are well out of line on this one.
The “undertone” seems to me to be entirely of your own imagining.
Feel free to argue with Mira and anyone else about the issues. But it is your attempts to psychoanalyse commenters which is well out of order.
Mira disagrees with you because she has come to a different view. There is no evidence anywhere to say that this is because she is racist/white-supremacist/whatever you want to label her.
Likewise Thad: he has a tendency to come across like an abrasive, arrogant prick and indulge in ad hominem. But is he a racist? Not based on anything I’ve read here.
I hate to break it to you, but the set of ideas you adhere to regarding Egypt and Diop have NOT been conclusively shown to be true. They are certainly worth considering, but they are up for debate just like anything else. You seem to believe that one cannot respect black people without believing in your set of Afrocentrist ideas. And thus you are seeing racists everywhere.
Cheers ES,
1. However, you attempt to address her outright lies by placing words into my mouth
2. You do not tackle her false assumption about me providing links and not backing up my evidence. Rather than her eurocentric thinking not allowing to understand the point.
3. Can I ask you did you read the other thread. If not you have jumped the gun to speak without having all the facts before. This is foolish and also arrogant on your part, if you have not done so.
4. With regard to Diop, you seem to have let your anger get the better of you. We are speaking about ideas and theories to explain White racism.
I observe you produce nothing to counter the ideas except that it may not be true.
This says nothing and is in essence a circular argument, in real terms
The point on a discussion board is to bring forth an exposition to discuss why the theory is wrong, as opposed to just ‘sentimentality’?
This is where you reach for teh old caveat – You are calling people racist because they disagree. The truth of the matter they have not produced anything at all, except ‘sentimentality’.
And this is where you make the mistake that Mira has produced anything to counter what I hve said thus far.
5. If you wish to see certain commentators as ‘non-racist’. I will stick with my belief system and the words which I have said regarding these commentators.
I am not quite sure what you are trying to get at, apart from demonstrating your own opinion.
6. As for ES justice, I think you best keep it, because on most counts you fall short of dealing with the ‘facts’ as demonstrated from the words on the computer screen, in my opinion.
You are not going to find much on Bradley’s book for obvious reasons.
I do not know if it is on his website – you have already been there. However, by your response I guess not.
As for the theory of ideas to explain Western white racism from this perspective, it is hard to find Bradley’s thoughts and even harder to find Diop’s expressions on the matter.
Even though you suggested it may have been a ‘weak excuse’ for me to referesnce Bradley.
The bottom line is without the Bradley’s book. There is no other relevant data that is on the internet.
So to conclude there is no information I can offer to you. Since I am not prepared to be typing large chunks from Bradley and Diop regarding this matter.
With regard to;
“You seem to believe that one cannot respect black people without believing in your set of Afrocentrist ideas. And thus you are seeing racists everywhere”
This is your caveat, but the truth of the matter is the commentators do not know enough about African centred ideas or theories to even begin a resonable discussion.
Nor do you.
What is actually happening??
With the discussions here people like you are arguing from a euro centred perspective with no knowledge of the African centred perspective.
I am arguing from an African centred perspective with a knowledge of the euro-centred perspective.
When I conclude by suggesting the validity of certain African centred perspectives over the Euro-centred one.
You reach for the aforesaid caveat about my ‘set of Afrocentric ideas’.
However, you do not tell the audience that you intend to ‘remain in your ‘set of euro-centred ideas’.
The best example is our discussion on why N.E. Africans have ‘Caucasian’ features?
In your ‘perverse thinking’, because you can’t see outside of your own ‘eurocentricism’, you probably think it is an error as well as an African centred perspective to suggest that Blacks had ‘Caucasian features’ and Whites inherited it from them.
Rather you accept the ‘euro-centred’ perspective, but you do not call it that, nor do you see it that way. The only plausible way that NE Africans can have ‘Caucasian’ feature is because of inter-mixture with Eurasians type.
This is the contradiction which you cannot see within yourself, but falsely can project on me.
So as much as I am stuck in ‘African centred’ ideas it has to be said that you must be ‘brainwashed’ by ‘euro-centred thinking’.
Why do I say this?
I say so, as I said earlier I have a knowledge of both systems. You have only the one to go by, and if this is the case. Then one is limited .
A euro-centred perspective is not going to get humanity to discuss the possible origins of racism, from Diop’s perspective, which proves my point about having an overall understanding with regard to systems, ideas etc.
However, I remember from a past conversation that you have already made your position clear what you think of African centred thinking – and it is not complimentary either.
It will be interesting to see if you can think outside your own ‘eurocentred thinking box’ and understand the essence of this post.
Hmmmmmmmmm!!!
J sez:
Given that Mira has called me as many names as you have, J, I hardly think I qualify as her “mentor”.
Let’s put things very simply here: you are butt-hurt because a man you thought “afro-centric” (whose works you’ve probably never read) has been revealed to be an EXTREME racist.
This is not me making crap up, J: this is something that can be easily confirmed by anyone who chooses to take a gander at Michael Bradley’s website.
Mira is not “copying” me any more than she would be “copying” me were I to say “water sure is wet” and she, upon conducting an independent investigation herself, were to say “Yeah, water is wet”.
Bradley’s a racist and this should be obvious to everyone. Hell, the man begins his book by saying “This is a racist book”!
You trumpeted Bradley’s nutso theories as great afrocentric stuff, J. When confronted with what the man actually WROTE, instead of saying “Whoops, sorry, my bad”, you’ve slapped down one race card after another.
What’s worse is that both Mira and I have asked you, point blank, “do you REALLY believe this crap?” and you haven’t even bothered to try to distance yourself from it. In other words, as far as I can see, J, you do indeed believe the racist garbage Bradley puts out and you really do think it’s afrocentric.
THIS is what underlies my calling you a fascist and racist: your repeated insistance that clearly fascist and racist thinkers are, in fact, afrocentric and great scholars.
This ain’t an ad hominem J: it’s a straight up, clear-cut analysis of your views, as presented on this forum.
Now, as far as I can see it, you think that Mira and I are racist because we are a) melanin deficient and b) have the audacity to disagree with your whacked out theories.
That’s because you’ve never read either man. Diop would have been APPALLED at Bradley’s loonie re-boot of Aryanism.
Thad… has a tendency to come across like an abrasive, arrogant prick and indulge in ad hominem. But is he a racist? Not based on anything I’ve read here.
LOL. Well at least that’s out of the way.
Its up to you if you wish to see him as a racist, but against whom…the Jews…a race of people….Or is it the ‘White race’ which he is also a part off??
And just to let you know this is why I did not type ALL of what Diop had to say, because I knew yould ignore it.
This is your standard tactic, ask or demand for evidence, and when it is given, ignore it, and then continue the mantra that you ‘disagree’.
What is funny though is that you can tell us Diop would disagree with Bradley. However, the funny thing is you know a little about Bradley, just recently, and you know next to nothing about Diop.
Hmmmmmmmm!!!
J, if you actually READ the man’s book and other publications, it’s quite clear that he sees the “icemen” as seperate from “whites”. He believes that there’re a raftload of white people who have been invaded and degraded by the “icemen”.
J, I think we can dispense with the fiction that you’ve actually read Diop. Your “all that Diop said” is probably some out-of-context comment you’ve culled from a wierdo website – rather like that “proof” of yours that “Afrika” was a more African way of spelling because (according to your highly knowledgeable internet source) no European languages other than German have a “hard c” sound.
In other words, J, your proofs always seem to wind down to quoting someone who quotes someone else – generally far out of the original context.
And I’ll repeat, by the way, that you’ve given us exactly NO evidence of some deep connection between Bradley and Diop other than Diop’s assertion (backed up by pretty much every human geneticist in the world, btw) that whiteness is probably a genetic divergence which happened 30,000 years ago, give or take some milenia.
I have news for you, J: believing that a color change occurred in a given set of human peoples 30k years ago is NOT the same thing as believing that said group of peoples represent some über-evil race with a collective biology and culture which has come down through the past 30 millenia essentially unchanged.
You’re like the kind of creationist fool who sees an article talking about the mDNA Eve and uses that as “scientific proof” that the Biblical story of the Garden of Eden is true.
Let me break it to you, J: “Whiteness” is caused by the expression of one mutation of one gene, commonly carried by many animals. You’re trying to say that that one gene causes an entire range of complex behaviors which are expressed, unchanged, across cultures and across time.
That is nuts.
All Diop does is express his belief that said skin color evolved out of a darker human norm. HE DOES NOT SAY, EVER, that this somehow creates a specific people witha specific culture.
However, the funny thing is you know a little about Bradley, just recently, and you know next to nothing about Diop.
J, I READ Bradley shortly after you pointed him out BECAUSE you pointed him out and because his book didn’t seem to be anything like what you claimed it was. It’s available as a torrent on the internet, you know.
I realize that the idea that someone can read a book in an afternoon might be unbelievable to a man who rarely reads more than one webpage at a time.
As for Diop, I’ve read some of his stuff, yes, and I’ve claimed this from the beginning. I used to believe that you had read more, so it was natural to ask you where you were getting this information that Diop believed in the Iceman theory from.
It has since become more than obvious that Diop says nothing of the sort. If he did, you’d hardly restrain yourself from rubbing the proper quote in my face. The so-called connection between Diop and Bradley is something you’ve concocted on your own, apparently without reading either man. Diop worked all his life against racism, criticizing the exact sort of gutter-philosophies that Bradley repeats. You’re saying the man believes the same thing as Bradley is simply ridiculous. You’re like that nutter who claims that Hitler and all the SS were secretly gay. 😀
And this is what upsets you. The very premise which you have been fighting on this board for the longest time, that Whites are not exceptionally racist than others is the very thing Bradley attempts to prove for ALL White people (including European Jews).
What is strange in your fallacious reasoning is your attempt to reveal to us that Bradley is a ‘White Supremacist’, even though he shows that the ‘White race’ is unique with regard to racism. Something a valid ‘White Supremacist’ would never consider doing.
Nor does he say anything about ‘Black people’
Good try, my friend, but your reasoning skills have let you down once again.
Scratches my head for a moment, smiles and thinks to myself
“Let me use the classic Thad technique”
Can you tell me where he says this, and the page number too? Remember I have the book at home, so I can check the usual nonsense that you continually spew.
What upsets me is stupidity, J, especially when it’s couched as revolutionary analysis.
First of all, it’s damned obvious – or should be – that “whites” are not now and never have been a homogenous group. I do not think the Slavs and Irish are as responsible for racism and injustice in this world as, say, the French. So the whole idea that “white” somehow can cover the historical activities of the ancestors of what are now close to a billion very diverse people is, to me, simple stupidity. Is this a racist reaction because I feel defensive? Hell no! I’ve made the same comment repreatedly about “blacks”. These overarching racist terms do not describe cohesive political and cultural units and never will.
Secondly, the only people the idea that one’s biology somehow determines one’s politics and that each “race” of humanity thus has a “natural” political position is fascism, pure and simple. I’m willing to talk about white racism all day long but I am not a fascist: I do not believe that individuals are “naturally” anything simply because they are part of a greater collectivity.
Thirdly, the idea that a certain level of melanin in one’s skin “naturally” determines one’s views and behaviors is biological determinism at its finest. It is unscientific and cannot be proven in any way, shape, or form.
So get this through your head, J: I couldn’t give a fat flying f*** how the so-called “white race” is portrayed: it’s the very concept that there are biological human races which are neatly divided into political and cultural units that offends me. It offends me because it is STUPID and, moreover, a form of stupidity which has killed and continues to kill millions on this planet.
I could care less whether you think blacks or white are naturally superior, J: it’s the notion that humanity is broken up into “natural” political and cultural units based on biological race which I find stupid and ridiculous.
With regards to Bradley, sorry, you’re wrong. If you read what the man writes, it’s very clear that he has a PARTICULAR “white man” in mind: one which is semetic.
Just a quick note:
rather like that “proof” of yours that “Afrika” was a more African way of spelling because (according to your highly knowledgeable internet source) no European languages other than German have a “hard c” sound.
In my language, it’s spelled Afrika.
You must have gotten that “K” from German, then, Mira because according to J’s specialist, it doesn’t exist in any other European language.
“Caucasoids” – by which he means white people – are distinguished from “Caucasoid-Neanderthals” or “westerners” – by which he means the Jews – at several points in the book. A good example of this can be seen in footnote #9 where in spite of Indian’s “caucasoid” biological heritage, their cultural heritage cupposedly keeps them from degenerating into “icemen”.
This thesis is also further explored and made explicit in Bradley’s later booksm most specifically “Chosen People from the Caucasus”.
I believe all Slavic languages have “K” and it’s frequently used. We do use “c” but it’s pronounce completely differently.
It’s pronounced similar to “tz” in “tzar”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar
Finns spell it Afrikka and estonians have k too.
Well, someone should tell that to the so-called “Afrocentric” genius J was quoting the other day.
Cheers Thad
‘Thad’ you could not provide the reference I asked for,
I will presume this is something you made up once again
and is not true
Oh dear!!!
And what link did you get this from, or is it in the book, if so can I have the page number so i can ensure you are NOT utilising ‘intellectual dishonesty’ once again
This thesis is also further explored and made explicit in Bradley’s later booksm most specifically “Chosen People from the Caucasus”
A critical analysis of this text will show that you are having a very difficult time finding information about Bradley.
However, like the Diop qTwo Cradle Theory & Racism, I wish you all the best in your research endeavours
on Sun Aug 1st 2010 at 00:51:19 Eurasian Sensation
You want others to provide proof of everything. Yet you are alleging racism on Mira’s part based on what proof? If you want to claim she is a wolf-in-sheeps-clothing who only pretends to be friendly to POC because she is sexually attracted to black men, prove it or don’t say it. What you are able to read between the lines doesn’t count.
As I have said earlier on this post or another one, I am not closed off to the ideas of Diop and others on this. However, the vast bulk of research on these matters does come from, as you put it, a Eurocentric perspective. So like it or not, that is the knowledge base that most people are grounded in.
Afrocentric ideas are still, at this point, a radical departure from established knowledge. This does not mean they are not true, but at this point they are still considered radical. Thus you need to accept that most people are yet to be convinced about them.
But you seem to think that the ideas are obvious and established as truth, and thus anyone who doesn’t agree with them must have something wrong with them, or some racist agenda.
It’s not the only plausible way. It’s just what I think is the most plausible way. I weighed up the evidence that I know of and came to an opinion that is different to yours. You consider that “brainwashed”?
Maybe I am. But at the same time, we are intelligent people on here and we are still quite capable of forming opinions (correct or not) on our own without being brainwashed.
Don’t get me wrong, Thad. I actually think you seem like a pretty cool guy. But arguing with people on this site seems to bring out an ugly side of you. I’d love to have you as a lecturer, as long as I didn’t disagree with you.
Btw, the “J is a fascist” thing is getting old.
on Sun Aug 1st 2010 at 01:30:24 J
Just to say you seem to have found your ‘even-handedness’ once again but I have to say to very diassapointing effect:
Its clear you picked out carefully what to respond too and left large significant parts unaddressed, almost like a skilful politician dodging key questions:
1. I asked you if you read the other thread. It is clear you did not. And this as I said this was very foolish and arrogant of you – and I stand by this
2. You do not seem to understand why I levelled the charge of racism? I was falsely accused of something which was not true, and even when this was pointed out. There was still a refusal to concede the point by the commentator.
Again you would not know nothing of this cos’ you did not bother to have the facts before you. Without stating the obvious there is 2 sides to every story.
3. I see you avoid the very issue of your euro-centredness and how it in facts hampers how you look at the world, along with your lack of knowledge about African centred theory. Again this matter is on the other thread with regard to the commentator. However, you chose to ignore.
4. As for African centred ideas they are not ‘radical departures’. The thing with ‘knowledge’ (epistemology) is that it is not based upon a consensus. If White people say it is true and propogate that truth around the world then it must be so.
5. With regard to these comments below:
‘If you believe this to be the case: ‘But you seem to think that the ideas are obvious and established as truth, and thus anyone who doesn’t agree with them must have something wrong with them, or some racist agenda’.
I could level the same charge at you when defending your own eurocentred ideas (leaving aside the racism part of the above), mutatis mutandis.
The thing here as I said sincerely in my previous message to you. You and the other commentators do not have enough knowledge. So with regard to The Table of Nations. The commentator could not give an explanation why the idea was wrong – apart from it contradicted all that had been learnt previously in a euro-centred environment. I hope you understand what I am referring to, and this was not another bit you managed to skip over?
6. As for your comment: ‘I weighed up the evidence that I know of and came to an opinion that is different to yours. You consider that “brainwashed”?
I would say yes, just as you see me stuck in ‘my set of afrocentric ideas’ mutatis mutandis
Therfore what I would say to you is:
1.’reason over emotion’,
2. read all the facts before jumping in,
3. Understand both sides of the argument (ie commentators)
And finally ‘even-handness’ has its uses but the way things unfold, it usually involves a compromise of ‘truth’ for one of the parties.
On a board like this the ‘words’ is what should constitute the ‘facts’, not one’s sentimentality etc.
Anyhow thanks for your thoughts and input
on Sun Aug 1st 2010 at 03:47:53 abagond
I find it a bit odd that you are making this argument. Most commenters in your position think that I am way too nice to Thad.
Thad plays rough so he gets less protection from me. As far as I can remember he has never complained to me about it. To his credit he understands that if you dish it out then you got to be able to take it.
Even as it is, I did kick off B.R. after he completely lost it and let loose on Thad.
And once again, ad hominem is not the same thing as slander. Everything you say can be true and it can still be an ad hominem – because it makes no difference WHO puts forward an argument. The Devil himself could do it. It does not matter: arguments stand or fall on their own merits.
There is only so much time in the world, J, and I have other things to do. So forgive me if I don’t fit every question in.
1. Which particular thread are you talking about? I believe I have read most of them, and did not notice any evidence of Mira’s heinous racism at work. If there is something in particular that I may have missed, kindly point it out.
2. So if someone falsely accuses you of something, that is racism? Poor judgement, a mistake, a misinterpretation, perhaps, but racism?
I assume this is in reference to the term “race traitor”. I did not see you use this term but I certainly felt you implied as much in reference to Natasha.
There are indeed 2 sides to every story. And this is the whole point. You are quick to judge and psychoanalyse without fully understanding where that person is coming from. Mira may seem racist from your point of view (and Natasha may lack “race-consciousness” from your point of view), but that is YOUR side of the story. It is interesting that none of the other numerous POCs here seem to have come to that realisation regarding Mira.
At the end of the day, none of us can know all that much about someone based on their comments here (apart from the Alan B’stards and no_slappz’s of this world, who make it pretty obvious).
Btw, I think Thad’s attacks on you are considerably worse than yours on Mira. However, you seem more than happy to dish it back and go toe-to-toe; I stick up for Mira more because she seems to want to fight fair (based on arguments, not ad hominem), and also because I haven’t seen her write anything that deserves your ire in such a way.
Regarding my thoughts re: Egypt and the rest:
Perhaps they are Eurocentric. The bulk of the research on archaeology, genetics, anthropology and so on has been done by people coming from the Western tradition. So like it or not, thinking on Egypt is heavily informed by this, rightly or wrongly.
Discussing this with you has made me consider some things and not take certain things for granted. But much of it has yet to fully convince me.
The thing that rankles here is that if you see someone that disagrees with you as being “brainwashed”, you are basically saying they do not have the brains to make a decision based on logic and reason. Myself, Thad and Mira are all pretty intelligent people, yet our capacity to form our own opinions is not respected – it is as if we are merely passive receptors for white propaganda, in contrast to the enlightened J. Or not only that, that there is an agenda to defeat down Afrocentrism because it threatens the supposed white racist POV of Thad/Mira.
on Sun Aug 1st 2010 at 08:11:55 sam
J, I honestly think this Iceman-Neanderthal-Caucasian theory is not one of the strongest in the world. First of all, we have no proof what so ever of the color of the neaderthals nor the homo sapienses in those times. It is assumed that neaderthals were white and sapiens black or POC. But nobody knows. It is just a guess at this time. Nobody really knows.
I would be and I am very vary for any attempts to reconstruct the history of human “race” based on race because those attempts were and are still in the core of racism. Race theories of the nazis were based on the idea of separate races and their relative values. Of course so called aryans were on top of the pile. Nazis believed that aryans were blue eyed blonds when in reality the closest to so called aryan (iranian) were the gypsies in Europe. And nazis murdered hundreds of thousands of gypsies in camps. So when somebody starts to talk about race as a way of constructing a system of values and societies or such, I come very alert.
This being said, I have no problem in recognizing the racist history of Europe or whites anywhere. I have no problem admitting the horrendous actions that whites have done to people who have different looks or color. Slavery, colonialism in Africa and around the world, genocides in Africa and specially in Americas etc. These are all historical facts and if one wants to be any wiser, one has to accept these facts.
All of these terrible things have been done on the bases of belief in different races of humans. It is the belief that the other guy is not really a human, that gives to an ordinary housewife the ability to watch a lynching with a smile on her face in 1930’s South. She believes that blacks and whites are not the same race. So lynching a black man is no different to her than killing any other living thing that is not her race.
If one recognizes that were are all humans, one cannot act like this. If you accept that we are all one race, human race, regardless of our color, looks, culture etc., any violence towards any of us feels wrong, as it is supposed to feel. Any mistreatment, unfairness, is wrong. And any kind of racism is simply wrong.
Ok, enough of that hippie shit! Then to debate Eurocentric vs. afrocentric. Afrocentric movement has shaken a lot of concepts which has been good. But to try to move perspective ( even if understandably) from the opposite side to the opposite side regardless of anything, is political action. Not history. And sometimes one goes little bit on overdrive with it.
Eurocentric views in history have been dominant for so long that people do not understand that they are also politically motivated in many instances. In recent times, however, and partly because afrocentric movement, the way people look at history has changed a lot to more open and critical perspective to it. Thanks partly for the afrocentric views of history some of the old constructions and explanations have been removed and thinking has been rejuvenated in the field of history. This has been good.
on Sun Aug 1st 2010 at 08:12:10 Thaddeus
I have no trouble at all with people disagreeing with me, as long as their arguments havesome rationality behind them. When the argument is “Things are this way because I say they are and you are a [ad hominem] because you believe differently”, then I really don’t think they deserve much respect.
As for the J being a fascist thing, I’m not saying this for kicks, I’m saying it because that is what his political philosophy really, truly looks like from over here: blood = politics. And I think it’s obscene that a self-proclaimed anti-racist should be flogging that particular dead horse.
But hey, I’m willing to quit at least until the next time J cites some aryanist nut as an afrocentric resource. Though given J’s track record so far, my bet is that’ll be within two weeks or less.
on Sun Aug 1st 2010 at 17:43:04 Black?
Egypt wasnt the sole example of dark brown population with “thicker” phenotypes than the perspective of their european or asian neibghors.In Cyrinaica,2800 years ago the first to inhabit/settle the area were Greek dorian bands from theres and southern lakonia.The found nobody there,but soon enough the started communications with the neigbhouring tribes of interial Cyrenaica as well as with the tribal kings of coastal Tripolitis.They mingled with those semitic-hamitic tribes.Many kings of Libya took greek grils for their wives,and Greeks civilized the whole area of modern northern libya.The point is how the population of northern libya,viewed the barbarians of the south.During late hellenistic and roman times,they have the same notions for the southerners similar to those the egyptians of the middle kingdom had for the southerns(Nubians,bantus,ex).Violent immigrations and constant invasions from the south,similar to those in eastern europe(huns,goths,turks,slavs) may have contributed to that image.Provided descriptions and surviving texts speak for ebony uncivilized hars people from the south.Despite the average souther european and roman viewed nothern libyan populations as darker for centuries,and had this notion well in their minds.The same populations were well awared of their racial position,and distinguished themeselves from the south(south and central modern libya and the whole sahara region generally speaking).Since the first cbeing managed to survived upon this planet various tribes have been emerged in the light of day,vanished from it,transfromed at the pass of time or mutated for various reasons.Sometimes we make various speculations about the appearance of speciment,like dinosaurs,in a certain area.Sometimes we try to hard to prove that the inhabittants of that sole area are its exact survivors/descendants.Why its is not impossible for that specimen not to survived or survived in limited insignificant numbers or parts of the present population?Shuffle blue with red,and you have purple.Shuffle yellow,orange,dark green nad pink and you may have the same result,purple.The same colour just in different times.Claiming that ancient egyptians were bantu-like despite the scientific proofs,just for the boast after so many decades is as stupid as the ones who claim that ancient egyptians are racially the same with swedish,french or english.Ofcourse never forget the stupidity of modern egyptians who have tons of arab blood in their veins,especially from fathers side(lol),just to entertain their nationalism.
on Wed Aug 4th 2010 at 04:29:56 jim tut
Herodotus was a Greek philosopher at east let us say he could see!!! I don’t care who built America or what not. I’m African and I care who will rebuild my continent with me. My friends in Nigeria are Egyptians and they don’t look anything like Arabs. When we went to Egypt for his dad’s birthday, what I saw surprised me. The people in this part of Egypt are nothing but blacks they are not as dark as Sudanese thought they look Ethiopian. Africans are diverse and that doesn’t include the Arab invaders. Africans are generally diverse in every sense!!!!
on Wed Aug 18th 2010 at 01:23:37 brentano
By “American” standards, most of ancient Egypt — whether the light or the dark — would be “black.”
– One ancient picture showed faces of 4 peoples: white (Greek), yellow (Arabian ? ), black (Nubian) and I believe the Egyptian face used a dark reddish paint.
Does the reddish paint suggest a dark brown skin. Does this mean the Egyptians saw themselves as a separate dark brown people or as a type of mixture of the three other peoples ???
Of course, as this article points to, race as we know it today is a “modern” construct.
on Sat Feb 26th 2011 at 15:31:18 The Cynic
You might have already posted a link up thread, but where is the proof/study that
“Present-day Egyptians are, by blood, about 60% Eurasian, like the Arabs who took over their country, and 40% black African.”
I had thought about this before while looking at coverage of the Egyptian uprising. So many of them LOOKED like they were mixed race. You probably wont even see this comment being that I am so late, but I would really appreciate seeing where you got your information from.
on Mon Mar 28th 2011 at 06:24:04 abagond
I know you asked this twice and I keep meaning to answer. It has been well over a year since I wrote this, but most likely I got it from here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_Egypt#DNA_studies_on_modern_Egyptians
on Sun Sep 18th 2011 at 19:43:22 Teddy
Well, something funny, Friday I bought a book about an X-ray investigation into Royal Mummies, from the 70’s, to support some project supporting streetchildren in Bolivia. According to that book, though not using such vulgar, concepts as “black”, the skulls suggested that the Pharaohs of the 17th dynasty were indeed Nubian blooded, at least some of them much more than later dynasties. Tutanchamon belonged to the 18th dynasty, just to give you an impression.
on Mon Dec 12th 2011 at 01:00:16 Franklin
Can’t believe I didn’t mention this earlier, but there is a strong similarity between Egyptian dialect and that of the Yoruba of Nigeria. Both languages sharing many words that while having the same meaning, are either pronounced the same or are pronounced slightly different.
EGYPT/YORUBA
1. Wu (rise) Wu (rise)
2. Ausa (Osiris, father of the gods) Ausa (father)
3. Ere (python/ Serpent) Ere (Python / Serpent)
4. Horise (a great god) Orise (a great god)
5. Sen (group of worshippers) Sen (to worship)
6. Ged (to chant) Igede (a chant)
7. Ta (sell / offer) Ta (sell/offer)
8. Sueg (a fool) Suegbe (a fool)
9. On (living person) One (living person)
10. Kum (a club) Kumo (a club)
11. Enru (fear / terrible) Eru (fear / terrible
12. Kun / qun (brave man) Ekun (title of a brave man)
13. Win (to be) Wino (to be)
14. Odonit (festival) Odon (festival)
15. Ma or mi (to breath) Mi (to breathe)
16. Tebu (a town) Tebu (a town)
17. Adumu (a water god) Adumu (a water god)
18. Khu (to kill) Ku (die)
19. Rekha (knowledge) Larikha (knowledge)
20. Hika (evil) Ika (evil)
21. Mhebi (humble) Mebi (humble to ones family)
22. Sata (perfect) Santan (perfect)
23. Unas (lake of fire) Una (fire)
24. Tan (complete) Tan (complete)
25. Beru (force of emotion) Beru (fear)
26. Em (smell) Emi (smell)
27. Pa (open) Pa (break open)
28. Bi (to become) Bi (to give birth, to become)
29. Hepi (a water god) Ipi (a water god)
30.Sami (water god) Sami (a water god)
31. Osiri (a water god) Oshiri (a water god)
32. Heqet – Re (frog deity) Ekere (the frog)
33. Feh (to go away) Feh (to blow away)
34. Kot (build) Ko (build)
35. Kot (boat) Oko (boat)
36. Omi (water) Omi (water)
37. Ra (time) Ira (time)
38. Oni (title of Osiris) Ooni (title of the king of Ife)
39. Budo (dwelling place) Budo (dwelling place)
40. Dudu (black image of Osiris) Dudu (black person)
41. Un (living person) Una (living person)
42. Ra (possess) Ra (possess/buy)
43. Beka (pray/confess) Be or ka (to pray or confess)
44. Po (many) Po (many/cheap)
45. Horuw (head) middle Egyptian Oruwo (head) (Ijebu)
46. Min (a god) Emin (spirit)
47. Ash (invocation) Ashe (invocation)
48. Aru (mouth) Arun (mouth)
49. Do (river) Odo (river)
50. Do (settlement) Udo (settlement)
51. Shekiri (water god) Shekiri (a water god)
52. Bu (a place) Bu (a place)
53. Khepara (beetle) Akpakara (beetle)
54. No (a water god) Eno (a water god)
55. Ra-Shu (light during darkness) Uran-shu (the light of the moon)
56. Run-ka (spirit name) Oruko (name)
57. Deb/Dib to pierce Dibi (to pierce)
58. Maat (goddess of justice) Mate (goddess of justice)
59. Aru (rise) Ru (rise up)
60. Fa (carry) Fa (pull)
61. Kaf (pluck) Ka (pluck)
62. Bu bi (evil place) Bubi (evil place)
63. In-n (negation In-n (negation)
64. Iset (a water god) Ise (a water god)
65. Shabu (watcher) Ashonbo (watcher)
66. Semati (door keeper) Sema (lock/shut the door)
67. Khenti amenti (big words of Osiris) Yenti–yenti (big, very big)
68. Ma (to know) Ma (to know)
69. Bebi (a son of osiris) Ube (a god)
70. Tchatcha (chief, they examined the death to see if they were tricked) Tsatsa (a game of tricks, gambling )
71. Ren (animal foot) Ren (to walk)
72. Ka (rest) Ka (rest/tired)
73. Mu (water) Mu (drink water)
74. Abi (against) Ubi (against/impediment)
75. Reti (to beseech) Retin (to listen)
76. Hir (praise) Yiri (praise)
77. Ta(spread out) Ta (spread out)
78. Kurud (round) Kurudu (round)
79. Ak (male) Ako (male)
80. Se (to create) Se (to create)
81. Hoo (rejoice) Yo (rejoice)
82. Kamwr (black) Kuru (extremely black)
83. Omitjener (deep water) Omijen (deep water)
84. Nen, the primeval water mother) Nene (mother
85. Ta (land) Ita (land junction)
86. Horiwo (head) Oriwo (head)
87. Ro (talk) Ro (to think)
88. Kurubu (round) Kurubu (deep and round)
89. Penka (divide) Kpen (divide)
90. Ma-su (to mould) Ma or su (to mould)
91. Osa (time) Osa (time)
92. Osa (tide) Osa (tide)
93. Fare (wrap) Fari (wrap)
94. Kom (complete) Kon (complete)
95. Edjo (cobra) Edjo (cobra)
96. Didi (red fruit) Diden (red)
97. Ba (soul) Oba (king, the soul of a people)
98. Ke (hill) Oke (hill)
99. Anubis (evil deity) Onubi (evil person)
100. Kan (one: Middle Egyptian) Okan (one)
101. Nam (water god) Inama (water god)
The same thing can be said about many Igbo words.
EGYPT YORUBA IGBO
1. Wu (rise) Wu (rise) Kunie (rise)
4. Horise (a great god) Orise (a great god) Alusi (the gods)
9. On (living person) One ( living person) Onye (person)
11. Enru (fear / terrible) Eru (fear / terrible) Egwu (fear / terrible)
13. Win (to be) Wino (to be) Wulu (to be)
15. Ma or mi (to breath) Mi (to breathe) Ume (breath)
18. Khu (to kill) Ku (die) Nwu (die)
26 Em (smell) Emi (smell) Imi (nose)
27 Pa (open) Pa (break open) Me-pah (open)
28 Bi (to become) Bi (to give birth, to become) bu (to become)
33 Feh (to go away) Feh (to blow away) Feh (fly away)
34 Kot (build) Ko (build) Ru o (build)
36 Omi (water) Omi (water) Mi-li (water)
39 Budo (dwelling place) Budo (dwelling place) Obodo (town)
40 Dudu (black image of Osiris) Dudu (black person) Ma du (person)
41 Un (living person) Una (living person) Onye (person)
43 Beka (pray/confess) Be or ka (to pray or confess) Biko (please)
47 Ash (invocation) Ashe (invocation) I-se (invocation)
48 Aru (mouth) Arun (mouth ) Onu (mouth)
50 Do (settlement) Udo (settlement) Obodo (settlement/town)
52 Bu (a place) Bu (a place) E beh (place)
55 Ra -Shu (light after darkness Uran-shu (the light of the moon) Ra hu (sleep)
58 Maat (goddess of justice Mate (goddess of justice) Mmaa (beauty/perfection)
68 Ma (to know) Ma (to know) Ma (to know)
78 Kurud (round) Kurudu (round) O kiri kiri (round)
79 Ak – male Ako (male) Nwoke (male)
80 Se – to create Se (to create) se (to draw)
84 Nen (the primeval water mother) Nene (mother) Nne (mother)
94 Kom (complete) Kon (complete) Kpom-kwem (complete)
99 Anubis (evil deity) Onubi (evil person) Aru (evil)
on Mon Feb 6th 2012 at 20:23:29 levlin
you misquote on your information.
Herodotus said they are dark skinned with curly hair
i’ve read his work.
aristotle never went to Egypt
its apparent you didn’t do independent research from a real book before copying and pasting these myths.
Herodotus description was short. Common on some african american people.
it just makes you sound like a jack ass to misquote this information.
on lighter news piolte mentioned jesus as tawny complection and gold hair…. so… he was around in those times.
on Sat Feb 11th 2012 at 18:09:55 Imhotep
Man kind has done a lot research,into the african history,but still want to disagree,can’t we easily see that we all are the same people,same Race we just look different,All of our ancestor’s are mixed,all are African.We keep trying to be something else,even neanderthal,originated in africa,It’s the Devil himself that invented the races in the minds of his follower’s.
on Wed Apr 4th 2012 at 02:36:03 lil tejo
Consider this, the Afro-Asiatic language family has roots in what is now Ethiopia and the Horn of Africa, this includes but is not limited to Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, Ancient Egyptian, and Phoenician. It would make sense that the speakers of these languages in ancient times were partly or entirely black African, and that the founders of the civilizations that spoke them were the descendants of migrants from the green Sahara, who brought their language and culture with them, and as some anthropologists would attest, grain agriculture and animal husbandry.
on Wed Apr 4th 2012 at 03:07:50 deedee7789
@lil tejo
Yes pretty much. Most have agreed that Northern Kmt (Where King Menses [sp?] the joiner of north/south Kmt) was purely Black while southern Kmt was mixed. Much of Eqypt may speak Arabic now but the 20% Arab population controls the government. Indigenous people of Ancient Kmt are still around however.
on Tue May 22nd 2012 at 16:09:58 Donothep
From what Ive read and heard, Africa is the most diverse place in the world. People like Horn Africans, who were once thought to have ‘Euroasian’ DNA by Eurocentrics, are actually 100% African. Why is it then, that some people feel its ok to call modern day Egyptians invaders? If Africa is so natrually diverse, is it not possible that the people in the north (by the Mediterranian) look a bit different from those in the south.
Its thought that the Islamic conquests didnt really make a dent on the Egyptian population genetically therefore calling modern day Egyptians ‘Arab invaders’ doesnt make much sense.
This debate also seems to only exist between black and white people (Afrocentric and Eurocentric). Rarely do we hear from actual Egyptians and rarely do people seem to take their self-esteem and self-determination into account.
on Tue May 22nd 2012 at 16:41:45 phoebeprunelle
The sad thing is people are still confused about this. The only guy who could possibly answer all those in doubt questions is Cheik Anta Diop and he is deceased.
He extracted DNA from mummified bodies to prove his point. They were according to modern day standards black Africans. Like Carruthers and Clarke says, it stood for 10,000 years before Europeans and others begin to penetrate into that area and only then do you get the mixing and lightening of the population.
You can debate Cleopatra all day long; however she came during a later dynasty that by then had been heavily mixed, but WE do know that Tiye, Hatshepsut, Tut, Ankhenaten, Ramses, Nefertiti and Neferatari were black men and women. They found freaking afro combs in these folks tombs.
Ya’ll playing.
@phoebeprunelle – good points. what im talking about is different though. im saying that people seem to assume that the lighter egyptians are the result of admixture depsite the fact some anthropologists (like s.o.y keita) i beleive have mentioned africa being natrually diverse and therefore not needing outside elements to create differences in features.
while theres no doubt that over the many years, mixing has happened, we should also bare in mind that some of that diversity seems to of occured natrually.
if there are people who might happen to be mixed nowadays, should it not be down to them how they identify? i dont see why they should be any less egyptian and take any less pride in their heritege than those that are considered ‘pure’ and i dont see why people living thousands of miles away (although i know not by choice) should decide and choose who gets to claim the heritege.
most the mixed race people i know take more pride and identify more with being black and are allowed and encouraged to do so. it is only when it comes to modern day egyptians that i see (mainly african americans) denying them this and claiming their just ‘arab invaders’.
academia should take afrocentrism as a serious perspective and acknowledge egypt as being an african civilisation and afrocentrics should accept that modern egyptians have the right to have a say on their identity and heritege to.
on Tue May 22nd 2012 at 18:30:50 deedee7789
@Donothep
I think the “arab invader” verbal accusations are towards those with government control and are apart of the arab minority in Kmt. Some ppl who have visited that country mentioned much of kmt being blocked off and how it is being identified as a West Asian country (which it is not). It doesn’t make the term right or fair I just feel that if a person observes a country being passed off as “Middle Eastern” by its government when it is not then read flags will be raised. Not sure if that makes any sense. It has less to do with the native population I think, but I could be wrong.
@Deedee – Good points. From my understanding, the government might have pan-Arab political ideologies but that doesnt mean they literally hail from the Arabian penisular. Most times when I’ve read people using the term ‘Arab invader’ they havent specified who they mean so it comes across as if they are just saying it about all the members of the population who arent black.
I cant really comment on if it should be classified as Middle Eastern or African as Im not an Egyptian which is kind of my point…..it should ultimatley be down to them how they are referred to.
Identity is a personal thing. Its not right that people who arent from the place, even if they have some biological link to it, should decide if it is part of the Middle East or Africa and if the people are Middle Eastern or African.
I can believe some of the population were Arabized (speak Arabic and are Muslim) but Im not sure the likelyhood that the Muslim Arabs actually wiped out the native popluation and replaced them.
on Tue May 22nd 2012 at 21:29:15 Parfum Bleu
I recall reading about an 80s biopic which starred Black American actor Louis Gosset Jr. as Egyptian President Anwar Sadat. According to the article the film was banned in Egypt due to a Black man being cast as their president. I also recall reading somewhere that some Egyptian spokesperson or other stated that, though they don’t nurse black and white racial notions in the way that Americans do, most Egyptians would categorize themselves as “white” (or words to that effect).
I’ve heard that before to. Would be interested to know if it was actually banned soley for the reason of them not being keen on a black man playing Sadat or if they were just being their iron fisted selves and not allowing for anything even remotely critical of their regime be shown. Either way thats not good of them.
on Wed May 23rd 2012 at 00:03:48 deedee7789
Some links they may be of interest.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jul/08/egyptian-arab-cultural-identity
http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=21936
http://www.historum.com/middle-eastern-african-history/36130-modern-egyptians-their-view-ancient-egypt.html
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/eg.html
http://www.egypt.gov.eg/English/Home.aspx
I can honestly say that it makes more sense to use geography to determine a country’s location. Egypt is predominately in Africa with a little peace on an Asian peninsula (which has the smallest of the population residing there). I believe it is fair to associate that country with Africa on a geographical standpoint. However, if we are to use culture and how the society views itself then it is also fine for the country to identify with countries outside of the continent as long as that does not confuse people of the actual location of the country (there are people who do not know that Eqypt is located in Africa..D:).
Some of the links mentions how modern Egyptians view themselves and it is a mixed bag. Some personally view themselves as Egyptian and not Arab (generally those that do not speak Arabic or are non-Muslim). Others embrace their current Muslim identity and embrace being Arab although genetically they are not (apparently according to DNA studies). Even though the full title of Modern Eqypt is “Arab Republic of Eqypt” it has been shortened allegedly due to the the growing number of citizens not wanting to be viewed as Arab.
Actually almost all of the population were Arabized (over 90%). That does not mean that those people are genetically Arab. it just mean that the current predominate culture is Arabic in nature. From some, especially those that are anti-Arab, that can be viewed as an invasion and by sociological means that is similar to invasion-succession except that the “race” of the citizens never changed, just the culture.
On a last note, it can be tricky taking the word of the current citizens on how they identify because it can be complex depending on the history. For some the lasting effects of colonization can skew their view of themselves and cause them to take on the cultural identity of their colonizers. Others might resist and hang on to their native culture. It’s really difficult to know but I can definitely understand listening to the words of the citizens rather than people who analyze the citizens. It makes more sense.
on Wed May 23rd 2012 at 07:15:35 Donothep
@DeeDee – Thanks for the links, Ill read through them more fully when I have time. I skimmed the Guardian one.
Im already aware that Egyptians prefer to be referred to as Egyptian and not Arab. Its similar in countries like Iraq and Lebanon to, especially in the Christian communities.
With that being said, the point I was trying to make was that it is down to them how they identify, not you or I. Some people seem to struggle to accept modern Egyptians referring to themselves as Egyptians because they associate Egypt and Africa with blackness so feel todays inhabitants are ‘invaders’.
I agree that an invasion can be a socio-political/religious issue, not a genetic one and that has obviously takin place in much of north Africa and the Middle East (Lebanon, Palestine-Israel, Iraq…).
Its a no brainer as to where its located geographically…..Africa so its therefore African. In the British Muesum, its in the African section to.
As a last note and just to be clear, I said several times that it is down to them how they identify…..’them’ meaning the regular citizens.
I think you miss understood me. I do not care and have not tried to identify the people of that country. It is basically like Ancient Kmt. “Black” Eqyptions up top (North Kmt) and “mixed” Eqyptians at bottom (South Kmt).
What I have done is mentioned how the physical country, not the population, is passed off as a Middle Eastern country, which it is not. The political status of the country is not determined by the citizens but by politics. So while the country itself may have “Middle Eastern” values it is not itself an actual “Middle Eastern” country based solely on geography. Politically, an entirely different story…
As a last note, the regular citizens weren’t given a choice in how they wanted to identify. They were force fed Islam and Arabic culture and learned to embrace it. Now they are taking back their identity as Egyptian. If someone wants to view the “less Black” South Egyptians then so what? That is there opinion and it does not matter to the people living in that country. They are familiar with their own history and culture, so why do the outsiders looking in opinion matter so much to you? The outsiders cannot and will not shape how the world looks at those people. So just move on if you can, any non-Egyptian opinion..really doesn’t matter as far as it concerns Egyptian people. IMHO. (Also because it isn’t clear, I am not upset and don’t view this last paragraph as an attack although it may seem like that. I understand where you are coming from because it happens in any country where the indigenous culture is replaced by another culture. Self-identification is tricky but not something to be concerned with unless you are the affected party, IMO).
They are familiar with their own history and culture
This is debateable. Due to colonialism, most Africans on the continent of Africa practice watered down versions of their former selves. The indigenous/traditional culture has largely been replaced by Christian and Islamic value systems.
I have lived in three different African countries to date.
Don’t worry, I know, I honestly wished I edited that post before submitting it. At my former University a young woman from Africa remarked how middle schoolers knew who her home country’s current leader was when she didn’t.Then there is the lost of language as well at times. But TY for your input anyhow. I welcome any corrections or suggestions.
^ I think i was just adding on to what you say.
Smh at the young woman you mentioned. My time in Ethiopia was marked by frustration and just plain anger, lol. I was at a school there and young men and women my age (who were teachers!) did not know how the African American diaspora came to be. Meaning they are not taught about the trans Atlantic slave trade as a part of African history.
@DeeDee –
No, I havent misunderstood you….infact it seems we are both preaching to the choir.
“They are familiar with their own history and culture, so why do the outsiders looking in opinion matter so much to you?”
The point I was trying to make was actually about the fact it is wrong that outsiders are trying to determine what the identity of Egyptians should be and/or refer to them as ‘invaders’.
Like you said, they were forced fed Islam and Arabism, they didnt have a choice in that.
It matters to me because I have heritege there and get a little annoyed when people dismiss modern Egyptians as ‘Arab invaders’.
Ah, so it is personal for you. I can’t tell you how to feel about people you are connected to but I do suggest not letting the “arab invader” accusations affect you. Anger will eat away at you. Those folks are just ill informed, you can try to help them see the error in their views but if they can’t see it for themselves then they are a lost cause. What matters is that YOU know the truth and it is not your responsibility to convince other people of the truth. But keep up the good fight if you have to because eventually someone will be enlightened 😀
on Thu May 24th 2012 at 16:28:26 Donothep
Im pretty sure S.O.Y Keita speaks about Africa being natrually diverse. Therefore there hasnt needed to be outside mixture to create the differences in appearence we see in countries like Egypt.
Theres more videos of him that Id suggest checking out to anyone interested in the subject. This man knows his stuff.
It would be good to see some Egyptian scholars/academics talking about the same things, be they black, white or anything inbetween.
these are also interesting
also, DeeDee, for an example of people dismissing modern Egyptians as ‘invaders’ have a read through some of the comments.
on Thu May 24th 2012 at 17:09:10 deedee7789
If I would have known you were talking about youtube comments then I can understand being upset by the extremely rude comments. I stopped commenting on youtube when I mentioned that a video was telling the truth and some commenters called me racial epithets and one commenter said he would kill me if I was in the US (I never mentioned where I was from and I’m glad I didn’t). Some commenters on youtube.. are a scary bunch but just know it is easy from the rude ones to not have a filter because they are hidden behind the computer screen. I looked at some of the comments and just thought wow..I wonder how many of those people have ever VISITED Kmt. Have talked to people from that country? Have spoken with Eqyptologist who study the history and its people both past and present.
I haven’t watched all of the videos but the fact the submitter knows that Kmt means “Black Land” and has interviewed people who are either from or descend from people from that country shows that her post is honest and well-informed. I can’t wait to watch the rest. Thanks for the links.
Hi DeeDee, I hear you…..yes, youtubers and some forum commentors go all out with rude comments. Of course they shouldnt be taken too seriously.
Its mainly the fact she seems to be of Egyptian heritege herself that is really good. Most people I’ve spoken to who have either done Egyptology or Near Eastern studies have all openly said Kmt means the ‘Black Land’. The debate that seems to rage is if this is in regards to the soil or skin colour and it mainly seems to be something Euro and Afrocentrics argue over, from my experience at least and thats not to discredit Afrocentricity. It has offered a very valid perspective of history and should not be undermined. What I feel is wrong is all we seem to have is these two extremes (afro vs euro) and we need something inbetween; what about the grey areas???
The other thing that doesnt sit well with me is the fact people dismiss actual Egyptians (on forums at least).
While Egypt is in Africa and an African civilisation, that doesnt mean the people all look the same and it doesnt mean Egyptians (ancient or modern) are exactly the same as all other Africans, in appearence, culture and other areas. They should still be able to be proud Africans. In other words, we need to move away from racialising things so much and using colour as the only or main marker.
Its just feeding rasicm. Embrace diversity.
on Mon Aug 6th 2012 at 06:06:17 resjan
Yes “Egypt” was founded by Africans and was always considered African UNTIL a century after europeans started studying them (i.e., around 1800).
First, ancient “Egyptians” literally called themselves “black”. “Km’t” translates to “Egyptian” in most dictionaries. “Km” translates to black. Now I know many of you will say well it refers to the black soil, but that is only your opinion, so let’s look at this objectively.
Greek historians knew them to be descendants of Osiris the Ethiopian (Nubian) who turned Egypt into a habitable place:
Diodorus: “Osiris being come to the borders of Ethiopia, raised high banks on either side of the river, lest, in the time of its inundation it should overflow the country…” Osiris (Wsr) has the title “km’wr” which means black bull.
No disrespect to the Egyptians of present or Copts, but I don’t understand why they would deny their other ancestry. It is a fact that Egypt was invaded and populated by outsiders multiple times over thousands of years, first by the Hyksos (1700s BC) , Persians (525-330 BC), Greeks remember when Alexander the built Alexandria, and made Egypt his home c. 300 BC?), Romans (30 BC-641 AD), Ottomans (1517-1867 AD). Anyone who knows Egypt’s history knows that it has been under foreign rule SINCE 525 BC, and some of you ignorantly contend modern Egyptians are the same as the ancients? LOL.
on Thu Aug 30th 2012 at 03:52:33 Egypt
Egyptians where mostly a mix of Middle Eastern and Black African descent. Some of the suggestion made are simply by racist people. To suggest that white people went around painting the hieroglyphics to make them look more white is crazy! There are text all over the place that describe the Egyptians as fairer then black people indicating the mix. Also copper skinned is not black copper more accurately describes Middle Easterners skin tone. Many documents other than paintings on wall exist that show pictures with varying skin tones anyone who does not except these various forms of evidence as proof of the mixed culture is simply being racist. For thousands of years the Egyptians held the Hebrews (Jews) as slaves. These slaves as well as the slaves from the southern regions in Africa are the people who helped build the pyramids. the various rulers of Egypt have been painted on tombs and papyrus as having various colors of skin so to argue the culture is only black or white is silly. Most Egyptian scholars regardless of race agree the culture has always been mixed. The debate is amongst outsiders of the country who are looking for a pride booster. Many of these pictures date back 4,000 plus years old. yes many countries invaded Egypt from around the 500 BC period. However much older documents suggest so called (non Africans) have been a part of their society for thousands of years prior to 500 BC.
Now for my opinion after studying Egyptian history most of my life I believe that Egypt early on quickly became a country comprised of people from all over the region if you remember ancient history many cultures were tribal both black and white at the time of the start of the Egyptian civilization I believe this mixture of cultures is what made Egypt so successful and long lasting . This mix of culture probably accounts for the emphases of pictures on their language.
on Thu Aug 30th 2012 at 03:55:27 SomeGuy
For thousands of years the Egyptians held the Hebrews (Jews) as slaves.
Proof?
One other note in reference to the comments made here the Mesopotamian culture was the root of Greece culture and in turn Roman culture. Although the Egyptians were no doubt a great civilization their contributions came later, after all the oldest pyramid in Africa is well over 400 years newer than the ancient Mesopotamian pyramid type structures. Also if you compare the earliest art work of Egypt to that of the Mesopotamian art that is dated 2,000 years older (not talking about cave drawings but art on infrastructure) there are some similarities indicating to me and others who study these cultures that Egypt like so many other great civilization were influenced by the many cultures around them. based on everything I mentioned I do not think it is far fetched to believe that tribal people in countries north of Egypt as well as the tribal people south of Egypt occupied the land at similar times and formed one society which is now known as ancient Egypt.
Some Guy,
Good catch! I meant to say hundreds of years I wrote thousands because the the time frame thousands of years ago, early on, before various civilizations came in and took over. The slaves were around 1444-1250 BC and were not freed until around 900-700 BC the dates are debated by scholars they were slave for about 420 years if anyone is interested to know. Point being within about 1500 years from the start of the first dynasty there is concrete evidence through diggings and historical documents that large amounts of middle eastern people were in one way or another involved in Egyptian society.”the last pharaoh” of Egypt Cleopatra came from a Greek family.
on Thu Aug 30th 2012 at 09:01:09 GoldFire
LOL, meanwhile, homo sapiens originated in Ethiopia. Interesting that Egypt would argue that Mesopotamian civilization predated Egyptian.
It’s not really an argument, it is what we know so far based on carbon dating of objects and infrastructure consistent with an organized established civilization. I may love Egypt but I accept what we know of the facts of history first. If we keep digging maybe things will change.
on Fri Aug 31st 2012 at 04:27:11 Egypt
Although the oldest skulls discovered at this time were found in Ethiopia their is no evidence of a civilization existing there this early on a Civilization is an advanced state of human society, in which a high level of culture, science, industry, and government has been reached.with this definition in mind the Mesopotamian civilization predates the Egyptian civilization by anywhere from 5,000 – 4,000 years
on Wed Feb 6th 2013 at 03:51:15 Maanai
Hello! First Id just like to say wonderful thread it has put forth alot of the speculation in perspectives of understanding and answers many common questions. To others id like to say why are you saying ancient egypt was an african society? As if egypt has just packed its belongings and moved elsewhere? Egypt is still in Africa. Anyone who lives in africa, is bloodlined african, or is from africa is african. Not caucasian. Why? because people from africa or with african bloodlines are africans & called that cause it is where they are from. I believe everyone originated in africa from Eden. However thats another topic. I think that the Caucasians are egocentric about ancient egypt being as whites & not black because any white person who thinks that way is out for the title of all glory and all great. They can only get away with that because of the damaged sculptures giving them reason to “rebuild” & make a “potential” figure of what was. however they have no proof its a reconstruction!! Second because the paintings were all different colors so they are able to say this picture of this egyptian is white so they were white the others are slaves. But no, not at all true. Whites are white because of where they live and they live in northern areas where sun isnt that intense as opposed to africans who are darker which is a natural skin protectant from sun. I say this because if you put a Caucasian in africa without sunscreen, they will surely burn up. So how do they think they wouldve survived living there then without sunscreen? they couldnt! Anyway just because there was apinting of lighter people didnt mean they lived or were from egypt. maybe they were just visiting. But no one ever thinks of things like that because egocentrics think with their eyes not their brains. No one was there who is living now unless you find a reincarnation but other than that all we can do is guess. As for phenotypes… get real .I am from Luxor Egypt and I have what some would call “white features” but my skin is colored of an indian from india. Phenotypes meaning features on the outside do not determine genetics. Alot of people look alike & are from totally different ethnic backgrounds. SO that eliminates that thought. Until someone can find a slab stating “We ancient egyptians were black or white” no one has right to ‘claim’ anything. If it is that important though im sure you can get DNA tests & im sure most whites would fail just from the truth of there are no white people of africa who are from there originally in this age.
on Wed Feb 6th 2013 at 04:56:24 Fiamma
“Ramesses III
According to a genetic study in December 2012, Ramesses III, second Pharaoh of the Twentieth Dynasty and considered to be the last great New Kingdom king to wield any substantial authority over Egypt, belonged to Y-DNA haplogroup E1b1a, mainly found in sub-saharan Africa.[22]”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_haplogroups_of_historical_and_famous_figures
Of course, as I’ve stated in comments in other sections some months back, neither Y-DNA nor mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA), as viewed separately from autosomal DNA, can be taken as indicators of an individual’s race. However, if it holds that the above haplogroup ‘E1b1a’ indeed is the Y-DNA haplogroup of Ramses III, then there is a strong possibility that he descended from a ‘mainland’ African male. [Mitochondrial DNA is passed from mother to child; Y-DNA is passed from father to son only.]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V38_(Y-DNA)
on Wed Feb 6th 2013 at 20:49:30 poetess
Sounds like the original Egyptians were what we would commonly call black.
on Wed Apr 17th 2013 at 13:42:28 Kirsty
To the anonymous person who said:
” ‘whites’ do have a reason to claim Ancient Egypt was not originally ‘black’. Whites had to find a way to morally justify to the world and to themselves that ‘black’ people were inferior. Claiming that ‘black’ people never contributed anything to mankind was one of the them.
This is racist. Some whites want to feel they are superior or that racism is justified. But to say ‘whites think this’ is just as bad as saying ‘blacks think x’ As a white person I have no desire to feel superior to anyone because of race – ,we’re all just human on a sliding scale from ‘black’ to ‘white’ anyway!
Btw, I think this post is good. So much stuff about ancient Egyptians on the web is written by either white supremacists or black supremacists. This is balanced and sensible, and based on evidence not prejudice.
on Thu May 9th 2013 at 05:06:00 ken willims
Who ever put the above article togerther has got most of his information all mixed up . ” Egyptians considered themselves a different race ” When did he
interview any of them ? The egyptian language has definite African Bantu origins . Ta Seti was the first ” egyptian culture” to be established and it’s people
came up from the interior of Africa . So why is it such a mystery as to what the original ” Race ” the egyptians were . This ongoing insanity to create and maintain a mysterious race of Egyptians that are so different from black africans is just another historical carry over of the illogical and ridiculous eurocentric white supremacist ideas about classifying races on the african continent .
Now is the time for Africans to wrestle Egyptology from the clutches of the distorters of our civilization, by a more forceful and public attack on their lies. We must expose to the light of truth, every falsification and every claim of a European or Asian origin of Kemit and re-establish the link with our ancestors for the sake of our children
on Thu May 9th 2013 at 05:16:51 Fiamma
Well, whatever the race of the ancient Egyptians might have been, the face of Sphinx certainly shows marked prognathism — a distinctly ‘Negroid’ / non-‘Caucasoid’ trait as stormfront types love to point out ….
It is so amazing that so many on this page is so damn ignorant about the versitility of the African race of people . I dare anyone on this page to prove
to me that any where on this earth past and present that they show where
Black folks all looked alike . Why in the world should ancient Egypt that’s in Africa be any different ?
Ken Willims, if your snotty comment was in reference to my post, kindly point out specific examples of my “ignorance” (you have a nerve!), and, while you’re at it, point out where I used the words “Black” or “African”, and where I made a reference to “all Blacks” in ANY context. Also, while you’re at it, work on your reading comprehension
I would say that I’m going to wait, but I’m not . Ta-ta.
It ‘s very obvious that you comprehended my point . Ta Ta !
on Wed Jun 12th 2013 at 18:58:44 jane the jew
This is why it upsets me so when I hear ancient Hebrews were white supremacist becuse they had a high percentage of Egyptian mixed descents Joseph was married to an Egyptian women and his descendants were mixed Moses was mixed and his wife was a woc I could go on and name more biblical figures that were black but I be here for a long time so…
on Thu Jun 20th 2013 at 15:24:30 resw77
@despina
“Egyptians” shaved their heads before burial…and in general kept no body hair whatsoever. After death, hair ceases to grow, and so any hair on a mummy is a wig, which was often glued to the scalp, and any Egyptologist knows this.
Modern Greeks and ancient Greeks circa the era of Herodotus are not the same. The ancient Greeks recognised their admixture with both African and European blood, and often portrayed themselves with brown skin (which you would see had not European museums whitewashed ancient Greek art). They also admitted that they believed Greek civilisation sprang from the settlement of Egyptian colonists.
Since then, Greece has changed drastically, and there have been several major foreign occupations of and migrations by Greeks out of Greece.
on Thu Jun 20th 2013 at 15:39:28 Linda
“resw77,
After death, hair ceases to grow, and so any hair on a mummy is a wig, which was often glued to the scalp, and any Egyptologist knows this.”
Good point… and also to add, the Egyptians (and other Africans) used Henna to darken the hair and Henna turns the hair Red, especially grey hair… so that natural “red” hair came from the natural bushes.
How do you arrive at “20% to 30%”? Even if you were right, it would mean that modern Greeks are still not the same as the ancients.
But, a recent DNA study of the most ancient Greeks (Minoans) showed that they most commonly shared haplogroup H, which has its highest frequency among the Tuaregs of Africa. Although H is also quite common in other parts of Europe, it is least common among modern Greeks and other southeastern Europeans.
And yes the ancient Greeks were indeed mixed. A genetic study found Greeks share DRB1 alleles with Ethiopians, suggesting some migration from Africa to Greece at some point in history. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11260506?dopt=Abstract
Diodorus (a Sicilian Greek) even told us about some Africans who came to Greece:
“Moreover, certain of the rulers of Athens were originally Egyptians…Erechtheus also, who was by birth an Egyptian, became king of Athens…in proof…Once when there was a great drought…Erechtheus, through his racial connection with Egypt, brought from there to Athens a great supply of grain…”
“Even the Athenians, they say, are colonists from Sais in Egypt”
“I have a feel that you think we dont recognize that. We recognise that. Just we care about “us” these times.. and now more with economic crisis. Is a survival thing, not a superior.”
You’re right, that is what I thought. But I get it. It’s important for you to pretend to be the same as the ancient Greeks…as some sort of morale boost.
on Fri Jun 21st 2013 at 00:55:38 resw77
Since many Ethiopians share some genes with Greeks, I guess they also have an equal claim to ancient Greece, using your logic.
on Fri Jun 21st 2013 at 02:34:04 ken willims
This ongoing insanity and agony to create and maintain a mysterious race of Ancient Egyptians that are so different from Black Africans is illogical and ridiculous .
The egyptian language has definite African Bantu origins . Ta Seti acording to physical evidence was no doubt the first ” egyptian culture” to be established and it’s people
The egyptian language has definite African Bantu origins . Ta Seti was the first ” egyptian culture” to be established and it’s people
came up from the interior of Africa .
So why is it such a mystery as to what the original ” Race ” the egyptians were .
So why is it such a mystery as to what and who the original ” Race ” the egyptians were ? The Black African race has always been a people of diversity .
@ken willims
You’re right, and Cheikh Ante Diop even proved that the Kemetic language was related to Wolof and ancient Kemetic cultural practices were similar to what we find all over traditional Africa today (but completely opposite the ancient Greek/European practices).
Egyptologists know the truth, but admitting it forces revised thought about Africans’ place in history, and threatens both funding for these archaeological excavations and tourism to Egypt.
on Mon Jun 24th 2013 at 12:38:11 Mary Smith
I think the problem is with the question. Here is what I would ask? Who started the Egyptian civilization? Who built the first pyramids in Egypt. The answer is pretty simple. The indigenous people of that area, who were black. Period. (I’m not sure why people have such a hard time believing this. Think of the Incas and the Mayan civilization and their architecture and progress in science and astronomy. Both were indigenous and didn’t have much contact with the outside world) Now if you ask the question was Egypt a black civilization then the question starts to get a bit complex. As Egypt started to get rich and as trade picked up, it became a target of invaders. You will notice this with the change in the features of paintings and drawings in Ancient Egyptian artifacts. But even then I wouldn’t say the ruling class was pure “brown”. I think race was less of an issue in the ancient world. But one thing is clear, till Alexander conquered Egypt I would say it was a black empire and then a black-brown empire. Finally, I’m going to teach my child about all the ancient, ancient civilization. I believe they were way more progressive then we were, had an inclination for science, feared mother earth and worshiped her, and lived in quite an equal society, with women revered for the power to sustain life.
on Mon Jun 24th 2013 at 13:54:46 sam
I personally think that the whole concept of race is the reason why this question gets into such quackmire. Race, as we today understand it, did not exist at the time of egyptian greatness. Anyone who has been in Egypt and watched those paintings and descriptions on stone of the people of Egypt, or of the ruling pharaos and ruling class, can see that the whole issue of race of egyptians is the invention of our times. For the egyptians of old it was not an issue at all. Some of their pharaos were black in every sense of the word, some were more of a mediterannen look, some of their wives were dark and some very pale, some of the soldiers were black and some not, servants came from every “race” possible etc.
What is the point in this discussion, and what should be the very point, is the fact that no matter what “complexion” egyptians were or what “race” we like to give them 6000 years after the fact, they were africans. The Old Egypt was african. Period.
It is only today, when we are so immersed into racism and its racial concepts, we try to convince ourselves that race was an important issue for them too, or that race is The question about Egypt. And this has been so since the white europeans began to white wash Egypt in 1800’s and tried to prove that it was not an african civilization.
The only fact that matters to me, and it matters very much more than the assumed skin color or thickness of lips of the egyptians, is that Egypt was an african civilization. Period.
I think there is a reason why egyptian civilization is been seen as the proto type of african civilizations, and why some wish to see it as either originating from central Africa or giving cultural influence over the whole continent. The reason for this is that we are so accustomed to think trough domination of the “western”/american culture these days that we assume that Egypt was somehow the USA of those times and there fore influenced everything and everyone in Africa. This was not true.
I think it is very narrow way to look at Africa, the most diverse and complex continent in the planet. Africa has produced many civlizations and has much more diverse cultural spheres than any other continent. To claim that Egypt at its peak somehow dominated the whole continent is underestimating the continent and its size and people.
If there were the phoenicians, greeks, romans and finally the “europeans” on the north side of Mediterannean sea, there were dozens or hundreds of nations, kingdoms, empires, cultures in Africa at the same time.
Egypt might have looked as the only game in town (well, the other game in town since nubians were also in sight) when looked from the northern side of Mediterannean or from Asia, but looking from the African continent, it was just one show going on up north. I think we should remember this when we think about Egypt and its huge impact on the western world, and when we think about the people of Egypt.
on Mon Jun 24th 2013 at 20:13:46 resw77
“Race, as we today understand it, did not exist at the time of egyptian greatness.”
It’s funny how many people say that without an iota of evidence. The tombs of Ramses III or Seti I (mostly damaged) shows that races were clearly identified.
Just add to my previous post. When people say whites built the Ancient civilization that in itself is so wrong. Many “Europeans” themselves didn’t consider Greeks, Italians or Spanish as “whites”. The fact remains even today these countries can never really call themselves “whites”. They are way, way, way too mixed for that. Why do you think the Nazi’s thought these Mediterranean countries as an inferior race. ( Sorry to bring up the Nazis) The real interaction with the whites ( that the Romans called Barbarians) started only after the long decline of the Egyptian empire. Additionally, for a long period of time, the Egyptians didn’t really have contact with the outside world because they were highly self sustained because of the Nile. Lastly, as I stressed again, when the Spanish invaded the Americas the Incas had been in spectacular decline, despite the fact that they had vast reserves of natural resources. But the true extent of the progress especially in science, astronomy and maths of that civilization baffles even the most learned. How do you think that happened? Lucky for them because of geography they will never have people claiming that the Incas were actually bunch of white people masquerading as native Americans!
And not to mention the architecture of the Incas and the Mayans!
on Tue Jun 25th 2013 at 01:57:08 Adeen
Honestly I think the ancient Egyptians were Black. They may have had some Arab admixture but I doubt it would dilute their African features very much. There was no way that the Egyptians were White as depicted on TV. It was in Africa, for crying out loud!
I have proof too. The ancient Israelites were Black people and were confused for Egyptians in the Old and New Testament of the Bible.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYXE3tnXVKo)
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77PjbqULBMY)
Videos proofing ancient Egyptians were Black Africans.
Proof that ancient Hebrew Israelites were also Black African people:
(http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/physical_appearance_of_ancient_i.htm)
(http://sarabe3.tripod.com/israeliteimages.html)
This is the best link yet. It shows the images that ancient nations such as Assyrians, Babylonians etc had of ancient Israelites. And their appearance looked like Black African people too.
The so called Jews today aren’t descendants of the Biblical Jews at all. Askenazi Jews, which makes up most of today’s Jewry, are actually Gentiles. Genesis 10:3 backs my claim. Askenazi is the son of Gomer, who was the grandson of Japheth, one of Noah’s sons. Japheth’s descendants are considered Gentiles not Israelites.
on Wed Jul 3rd 2013 at 20:36:45 d23s4
A rather worthless afrocentric point of view here-the ancient Egyptians never painted themselves as negriods. They differenciated themselves through their statues and artwork. Also DNA supports the ancient and modern Egyptians are the same. So a personal opinion from the author who wished the ancient Egyptians were negriods
The book of the dead is a classic example of how the ancient Egyptians viewed themselves. The negroid Maiherpi-the fan bearer to the Pharoah is painted jet black with nappy hair and the Egyptians red or yellow with straight hair.
on Thu Jul 4th 2013 at 01:36:41 ken willims
Let’s all remember what the great Dr. Ivan Van Sertima said about The ancient
African contribution to world history . ” We as Black people have the right and the duty to reclaim our history that was taken from us and more importantly to
set the record straight ” . I personally don’t understand why all Black Folk can’t
simply adhere to those common sense principals about solving ” this problem ”
about the identity of who were the Ancient Egyptians . We need to stop completly using racial identification standards created by our enemies to keep
us divided intellectually and so confused that we can’t never move forward with
this dilemma . I will say this again and again : Now is the time for Africans to wrestle Egyptology from the clutches of the distorters of our civilization, by a more forceful and public attack on their lies. We must expose to the light of truth, every falsification and every claim of a European or Asian origin of Kemit and re-establish the link with our ancestors for the sake of our children.
on Thu Jul 4th 2013 at 01:57:33 resw77
@Ken
I thought we had some help with Morsi as leader in Egypt, since he acknowledges his partial “Nubian” heritage and promised to help displaced Nubians return to their homelands…but looks like he just got ousted.
on Sun Sep 1st 2013 at 18:07:41 Pee
Just because Morsi acknowledges his partial Nubian does not necessarily mean he is going to help Nubians, it could transpare that he was using them to meet his politicals as many past Egyptian have done in past as histroy as taught us. Pee
on Sun Sep 1st 2013 at 19:16:55 resw77
@Pee
“Just because Morsi acknowledges his partial Nubian does not necessarily mean he is going to help Nubians”
FYI he also met with and made promises to the Nubian community to at least bring attention to the issue of displacement.
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/66124/Egypt/Politics-/President-Morsi-promises-Egyptian-Nubians-long-awa.aspx
on Mon Oct 21st 2013 at 02:45:09 Wtf?
Was this ment to be racest? xD
I don’t think racist American slave owners could have known what real anchent Egyptians looked like, because to me atleast modern anchen Egyptians look like a mix of black and white, and that 10 percent law no longer is in existence of any country lol, you act like it is still in effect today, and for any one here that is racest… Humans are all more than 99.99 percent related we are the most related species on the planet even fruit flies have more diversity than humans in relation to each other which is a little less then 80 percent, the only way humans are different are in the skin… But every one has thier own personality no matter where thier from or what color they are… And it’s sad how somewhat racist articles and things like this come up, it should not matter what color any one is.
on Thu Oct 31st 2013 at 05:55:17 TYBO2020
@WTF?..SO WHAT’S YOUR POINT..AND FOR A PROPER BIOLOGICAL ANALYSIS COMPARE EUMELANIN (SELENIUM BASED/ALKALINE/NEGROID) WITH PHEOMELANIN (SULFUR BASED/ACIDIC/CAUCASIAN)..GLOVES ARE OFF..THE FALSEHOOD MUST END..IT’S DEEPER THAN SKIN..
on Fri Nov 8th 2013 at 19:21:14 Imac Philly
africans are all shades of brown… from light to dark even some shades of white. africans have all shades. plus it really don`t matter because all races have some african blood….. all races. egypt is in africa….. African blood.
on Sun Nov 10th 2013 at 04:50:33 Inferno
I for one believe that the ancient Egyptians were what we call black today. They share the same culture. They share the same burial rites. Language can be argued to have African roots. Its strange that some people attempt to portray Africans as being some how trapped in South Africa. As if they just stayed South or migrated WEST. While its simple human nature to follow the WATER. The Nile river flowed up so why would people assume that the africans just stayed south.
Africans, when using Biology have the most diverse GENES on the planet. That can not be argued. Why then, would we/people assume that they have to look a certain way?
I read another poster state: Well they are not black and they are not white..they are Egyptian. Really, i would suspect that those same people who claim this are attempting to mask their true beliefs. And are in fact hiding behind the ENGLISH language…..
on Mon Dec 23rd 2013 at 04:27:51 Sharina
@ Christopher Columbus
“It is not me who is obsessed with skin color of people…..its YOU”—I could not tell consider all your post have consisted of “he is white get over it.” If you were not then this would not be your….oh I lost count..post declaring the whiteness of said individuals. 🙂
“This post is all about your obsession with skin color and how anything that white is bad and anything black is good.”—Yet no one said any of this so I take it you are projecting though most if not all of your posts were anyway.
“Here are the facts concerning these fictional characters
Santa=White
The Lone Ranger=White
St.Nicholas=White”
Well that is simply your opinion though I doubt you can depict the difference between the two. Here are a few facts though
Santa= fictional character that can be any color
The Lone Ranger=fictional character that can be any color (though evidence suggests he is not white only that the man in the book is white and is Captain Hughes).
St. Nicholas=Not white by your American standards of race (he is brown).
“Here are facts concerning historical peoples
Ancient Egyptians= Egyptians(not a black phenotype but a Caucasian phenotype)
Nubians = Black Phenotype
Deputy Marshall Reeves=Black”
Actual Facts:
Egyptians—“Kemp states that the “black/white argument is understandable as a symptom of modern political expression … The over-simplified choice that it offers, however, does not lead to an appropriate evaluation of such evidence and understanding as we have.”[17] The 2001 Oxford Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt states that “Any characterization of race of the ancient Egyptians depends on modern cultural definitions, not on scientific study.”
“Recent DNA studies of Ancient Egyptian mummies of a New Kingdom dynasty have confirmed Sub-Saharan African origins for notable New Kingdom pharoahs from both the Rameses III (from 1186 B.C.) and Amarna (from 1353 B.C.) lineages: In December 2012, Zahi Hawass, the former Egyptian Minister of State for Antiquities Affairs and his research team released DNA studies of Rameses III (who historically is assumed to have usurped the throne and as such may not represent earlier lineages) and his son have found he carried the Sub-Saharan African Haplogroup E1b1a, and as a result clustered most closely with Africans from the African Great Lakes (335.1), Southern Africa (266.0) and Tropical West Africa (241.7) and not Europeans (1.4), Middle Easterners (14.3) or peoples from the Horn “
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_race_controversy
As I said only morons believe and put a race to it.
“Deputy Marshall Reeves=Black”—No one said he was not black.
“Now lets stop the derailment of this thread.”—Oh but after you. I sure getting your azz handed to you each post can be quite painful. 🙂
on Tue Feb 25th 2014 at 19:55:29 pedro morejon
is funny but europeans were still cromagnon cave dwellers at the time of the ancient egyptian delvelopment and their highest civilazation period. Since egypt developed the culture and civilization that later civilazed the modern world and the svages that lived in europe via the greeks who took their civillizaton from the egyptians. It is very easy not to accept the truth when it is hitting you in the face. It is obvious that the europeans that came to America were very distructive here as well as in Europe where they knew nothing but war and destruction. It is a fact that the world is this mess because of Europen hands that are in control and continue to destroy. Do not cover the truth with nonesense
on Tue Feb 25th 2014 at 20:24:15 ken willims
We need to wake up people . The History Channel is never going to admit that
Ancient Kemetians ( egypt ) was conceived , created , and maintained by honest to goodness Black Africans . I think between the bank accounts of people like Ophra , Tyler , Jzee, and Beyounce , us negro folk could have our
own History Channel . But with this group mental make up matrix , that reality
will never happen . I’ll bet Tom Hanks would go for it .
on Sat Apr 26th 2014 at 13:13:23 John
Yikes. You have taken some massive liberties with this post. Much is plain wrong. I appreciate that you limit your words, but you should be more careful how you spin the limited info you provide. Is it more important to spread your opinion or the truth? Have another look at the Old Testament. It’s clear you are little confused.
on Sat Apr 26th 2014 at 15:13:54 abagond
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2010/07/26/the-seven-levels-of-disagreement/
on Wed May 7th 2014 at 05:13:53 Destroy Ignorance
Black people- and by Black I mean the descendants of sub Sahara blacks who were brought to north America as slaves, are so desperate to feel better about their lowly heritage, they try to appropriate a history that isn’t theirs. It would be like the Irish trying to claim ancestors built the Roman coliseum, because they are part of Europe too. Very transparent and sad, not to mention embarrassing. Even if there was truth to the belief, the slaves brought to America, we’re from sub saharan tribes on the mostly southern west coast of Africa.
on Thu May 29th 2014 at 21:16:39 Anwar
The ancient Egyptians were black. black is not an American construct at all. The Arabs of the prophet muhammad (saas) and later considered their color to be the same as that of the Ethiopians and East Africans. They called this color black in comparison to the whiteness of the Persians, Greco-Romans and other Europeans. You even stated how those ancient Greeks considered those people black. The Arabs also called many of the Indians who are the same color as many black Africans, black. The Arabs strictly amongst themselves used black only to refer to people whose colors were actually close to the true black. Just as Black Americans do.
As for Destroy Ignorance who is actually promoting ignorance blackness is not limited to Africa or African genetics, it is a color. You have straight haired blacks and kinky haired blacks and in some places you can find both hair types within the same black people. The Irish were white, as the Romans were (although the Romans had a tan from having some black ancestry), this is in comparison to the darker peoples of the planet. So both were white just as Ancient Egyptians, Ancient true blooded Arabs, many Berbers, Papua New Guineans, Melanesians and black Africans are all blacks, despite varying shades.!!!!
on Fri May 30th 2014 at 17:43:02 ken williams
From the Cave of Swimmers, Sahara Desert, Egypt near the Syrian border. Neolithic pictographs (rock painting images) clearly portrays Black Africans swimming. They are estimated to have been created 10,000 years ago during the time of the most recent Ice Age.Substantial portions of the cave have been irreversibly damaged by visitors over the years. Fragments of the paintings have been removed as souvenirs, and some surfaces have cracked after water was applied to ‘enhance’ their contrast for photographs. The Cave of the Swimmers, Egypt. figures are about the size of a human hand. The cave and rock art was discovered in 1933 by László Almásy. The Neolithic rock paintings of people swimming, estimated to have been made 10,000 years ago during the most recent Ice Age. When found many people did not believe they could represent actual swimmers. In 2007,Eman Ghoneim discovered an ancient Mega-Lake (30,750 km²) buried beneath the sand of the Great Sahara in the Northern Darfur region, Sudan.
on Fri May 30th 2014 at 19:17:36 Sharina
Destroy Ignorance
Perhaps you can start by destroying your ignorance. People did move all over. They did not remain in one area over time. You are drawing a conclusion based on two different time periods to mean one group can not be from another.
Even in the old testament it does not put a race on the people. So perhaps over time you have confused the truth with your opinion.
on Sat May 31st 2014 at 01:11:33 ken williams
A race of men now rejected for their black skin and woolly hair founded on the study of the laws of nature, those civil and religious systems which still govern the universe.” (Count C.F. Volney, esteemed French academician, 1787).
A EUROPEAN’S CONVICTION THAT ANCIENT KHEMET (EGYPT) WAS A BLACK AFRIKAN CIVILIZATION
‘’When I visited the Sphinx, I could not help thinking the figure of that monster furnished the true solution of the enigma.” ‘Still, enough of the original face remained for Volney to conclude that its stony features “were precisely those of a Negro” and that the ancient Egyptians themselves must have been “real Negroes, of the same species with all the natives of Africa.” As for the modern Egyptians, with their “yellowish dusky complexion” and mulatto” appearance, Volney concluded that “after mixing for so many ages with the Greeks and Romans, they have lost the intensity of their first colour, yet they still retain strong marks of their original conformation” “how are we astonished…when we reflect that to the race of negroes, at present our slaves and the objects of our extreme contempt, we owe our arts, sciences, and even the very use of speech; and when we recollect that, in the midst of those nations who call themselves the friends of liberty and humanity, the most barbarous of slaveries is justified; and that it is even a problem whether the understanding of negroes be of the same species with that of white men”. “The Ruins: or a Survey of the Revolution of Empires…in the pages of ‘The Ruins’, that Volney firmly concluded that civilization had been first conceived “on the borders of the Upper Nile, among a black race of men. Western civilization indeed owes its existence largely to Black Africans…Volney wrote in a time before archaeology and anthropology became proper sciences.”
on Sat May 31st 2014 at 01:30:50 Herneith
Volney of course wasn’t the only European to think so as you probably know. Before the ‘Scramble for Africa’ commenced, there were others such as Champollion who thought along similar lines. They are starting to find archeological ‘evidence'(probably suppressed before), that Egypt started out as a black civilization and was for most of it’s greatest epochs(‘d say up until the mid 18th dynasty). Many of the oldest gods originated in Nubia such as Osiris. That should tell these Europeans something right there but they are obtuse to anything which would make the Egyptians racialized.
CAIRIO SYMPOSIUM (1974)
1974 Unesco Conference On Ancient Egypt Origins
The question of “What race were the ancient Egyptians?” was emphatically resolved at the historic international Cairo Symposium, held from January 28 – February 3, 1974. The United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) convened 20 of the world’s top Egyptologists to debate the race of the founders of ancient Egyptian civilization.[1]
Until this symposium, it was assumed by the vast majority of European Egyptologists that the ancient Egyptians were either Caucasians or western Asiatics. Outside of Black scholars, few writers in the world agreed that the people of pharaonic Egypt were black Africans. At the Cairo Symposium only two African scholars, Cheikh Anta Diop and Theophilé Obenga, held that the Egyptians were black Africans, while the other participants took opposing positions against the Diop-Obenga thesis. Their scholarly opponents offered virtually no evidence to substantiate the two long-held popular theories of the western Asiatic or Caucasoid origin of the ancient Egyptians. These popular theories certainly needed to be proven, because they are contradicted by all of the objective evidence, such as the temple and tomb reliefs, paintings, sculpture, written records of other nations, linguistic terms, mummy remains, Egyptian customs, and royal and spiritual symbols.[2]
Armed with a formidable body of evidence from numerous
disciplines, Diop presented specific information to prove the black origins of Kemet (ancient Egypt ). It is obvious from the conference report that Diop dominated the proceedings, and confronted with his solid arguments, most of the participants changed their positions during the conference.
Prof. Torgny Save-Soderbergh ( Sweden ) and other participants argued that the concept of race was now outmoded and not appropriate for characterizing the ancient Egyptians. Prof. Abdelgadir Abdalla ( Sudan ) stated that it was more important to focus on the ancient Egyptian achievements rather than their race. Prof. G. Ghallab ( Egypt ) stated that the Egyptians were “Caucasoids.” However, the theory of an ancient population which was “white” with dark or black pigmentation was abandoned during the conference, as there was no evidence given to prove this assertion.
Professors El Nadury ( Egypt ) and Grottanelli ( Italy ) argued that the Egyptian population was not a pure race and could only be regarded as “mixed.” Prof. Jean Vercoutter ( France ) remarked that “ Egypt was African in its way of writing, in its culture, and in its way of thinking.” He stated, however, that “the inhabitants of the Nile Valley had always been mixed.”
Prof. Jean Leclant ( France ) added that there was an “African character in the Egyptian temperament and way of thinking” but that the “unity of the Egyptian people was not racial but cultural.” He stated the civilization was “neither white nor Negro.” Prof. Peter Shinnie ( Canada ), Vercoutter and others argued that terms such as “black” was too subjective and not well defined.
Dr. Diop protested that these were not positive arguments presenting any evidence, but simply negative statements against his black African origins position. In fact Maurice Glélé, the neutral UNESCO representative, interjected on at least two occasions to state that if classifying people in terms of white, black, or yellow are so debatable and subjective then a revision should be made of the entire terminology of world history to avoid misconceptions. It is clear that the participants abandoned the old Caucasoid and western Asiatic theories and instead retreated to a new “mixed race” position, without presenting any meaningful evidence to support this new theory.
Nevertheless, the conclusion of the official UNESCO report indicates the triumph of Diop and his colleague Obenga. It stated, “Although the preparatory working paper sent out by UNESCO gave particulars of what was desired, not all participants had prepared communications comparable with the painstakingly researched contributions of Professors Cheikh Anta Diop and Obenga. There was consequently a real lack of balance in the discussions.”[3] In laymen terms, Cheikh Anta Diop and Theophilé Obenga gave out an important academic spanking on a world stage. Western Egyptologists now unsuccessfully try and downplay the significance of Diop’s triumph over their colleagues.
on Sat May 31st 2014 at 02:27:53 B. R.
Yeah, Osiris was in the Igbo language , from many words that Nigerian professor mentioned…
forget about Egypt, I want to know about this profound knowledge that was way before that , coming from as varied ethnicities as the Igbo and Pygmies, who were noted in Egypt 4000 years ago , for their dancing …now how far back could anyone imagine that really could be, when these concepts could have evolved…?..maybe many of thousands of years ago more than Egypt noted the dancing of the Pygmies, and their culture was portable…concepts tied together with other ethnicities in Africa like the Igbo and from the congo…kenya..senegal..ganda, tanzania ..uganda etc etc, these concepts are tied into all those areas..I mean how far back could it be that those concepts evolved in those areas..concepts of math, organic expresion of fractals, body control using all the fulcrums in the human body, ability to turn off the thinking brain, and get in touch with intuition and sub conciousness, what scientists say is seconds ahead of our concious brain…here are concepts realised by ancient humans that plugged right into these things , and how to get in touch with them….in a profound way…
Im really interested because they have an absolutly garguantuan affect on cultures all the way down into today….in a big way…certainly as big as any contribution by any society anywhere…certainly as great as the Pyramids…they are constructions that are not physical…they deal from the inside, from the soul , and how these constructions are expressed outward in space and time and sound waves (in the sence that sound waves are important parts in how things evolve in the universe)
ancient humans meaning of course the ones who are us ,who lived a long time ago
on Tue Jul 15th 2014 at 10:36:46 James akha (chamber)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DNA-tested_mummies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E1b1a
So Last I heard people in Egypt saying releasing the results of the DNA testing of the mummies would be a threat to national security. I would assume the second link would answer why.
on Tue Jul 15th 2014 at 16:20:08 Kwamla
Yes some interesting links James akha (chamber)
The DNA testing (released) could obviously clear much of this confusion up. Fully vindicating Cheikh Anta Diop’s, and placing in yet one more context,research.
on Wed Jul 16th 2014 at 00:55:41 Herneith
Thanks James!
on Sun Sep 7th 2014 at 19:39:56 Bobby White
Egyptians were Black/Hamites/Chemites, Khemites all mean Black. Cush, Aethiops, Ethiopians all mean Black or Burnt Faces. You need to explain why a settlement of White people would call themselves Black? And why would a settlement of White- Japhetic people worship Black gods? Egyptians worshiped Amon same as Zeus; they were Black gods. Their name means Black. But, when the Greeks adopted the Egyptian gods, they portrayed them as White, because they wanted to worship gods that looked like them. They called their White version Jupiter.
Someone has already explain that:See post about Yoruba, Igbo tribal language.
Egyptians spoke an Afro-Asiatic or Cushitic language according to linguist. This language is not native to Russia nor Europe. All European or Caucasians languages came from the Greeks who created their language from the Phoenician alphabets. Phoenician were descendants of Ham not Japheth. Japhetic people have settlements in cold climatic areas, like Russia and the Caucases Mountain. The Greeks gave their language to all of their descendants of Japheth. It is called Indo-European language family (French, Dutch, Spanish, German etc.) So, if Egyptians where White-Japhitic people, then why so many African tribes’ languages came from the Ancient Egyptians language? Before the Greeks gave the Japhitic race the Indo-Eruopean language which sprung many different forms, Roman historian Tacitus said, the British spoke a barbaric incoherent language. And, Afro-Asiatic language predates Indo-European languages. Therefore, it is impossible for white-Japhitic people to have been the indigenous people of Egypt.
White-Japhetic culture and Black-Hamitic culture are very different. There was no evidence to point to Russia nor Europe when it came to Egyptian culture. White-Japhetic culture was ever a cow-cult, or cultivated watermelon and corn. Which are found on the tombs of Pharaohs? These things are all indigenous to the people of Ham/Black people of Africa and Cushitic/Hamitic/African culture. What about the famous mud brick homes where some Hamitic Africans live. They invented mud bricks and it progressed to the kiln where they cooked their bricks in oven, then to building structures. Show me this same progression coming from Russia, because archaeological finds of Hamitic bricks and pottery are found all over Africa. Ancient historians’ recorded that White-Japhetic people lived in tents and new nothing about architecture until they were taught by the Greeks.
Then, lets not forget these things, White-Japhetic people thought the world was flat, the sun revolved around the earth, but certain African tribes who were from a certain caste (Dogon Mali), Ethiopians, Egyptians, Chaldeans (from Cush), People of the Indus Valley (Cush) and India (Cush) all except the Brahman Caste (Japhetic), new the earth was round, new that earth revolved around the sun. The Egyptians taught this knowledge to the Greeks who studied inside their schools of Mysteries. The Egyptians schools were made of mud bricks or stones. People like Aristotle, and Pythagorean brought their knowledge back to Greece- and were arrested or persecuted. If math originated from the Greeks, then why were they trying to kill Pythagorean? Greeks were not yet ready to grasp mathematical concepts, they thought it was witchcraft. Egyptians used perfumes, Europeans thought was witchcraft, Egyptians had funeral rituals used amongst Africans today. Europeans burnt their dead. There is no evidence that can place White-Japhetic people in Egypt. All White people living in Egypt today, are Hamitic either through mutations (light skin, yellow skin, albino white), or from a mixture of Shemitic people and Japhitic people. This means they descended from Black Hamitic people. There are also yellow and brown people also descended form the Black Hamitic people. I will explain in a later post.
Some of the White people of Egypt are Hamitic-Whites (African). Some are Shemitic Whites (Asian) and some are Japhetic-Whites (Caucasian). Let me explain: some tribes claim lineage through their father, and not skin color like in America. If your father was White-Japhite then your descendants will claim White even though their skin is Black. There is a tribe in West Africa -Timbuktu who claims that they are White. This is very funny to Americans because they look like African-Americans. But, Mexicans claim White too, because of their Spanish white ancestor. Who are we to tell them they are not white, because we view race differently? Egyptians who say they are native Africans, but look White, are talking about their father’s lineage which can trace back to a Hamitic /Black ancestor. But, they get confused when it comes to the original skin color of their ancestor. They say, Egyptians were white, because they are white, not really understanding that Hamitic people were Black -and white skin is a mutation from a black/brown skin- or due to interbreeding with a different white race. Again, I am defining the different white races based off of ancient standards, and not by our modern standards. The rest of the Whites who claim to be White Egyptians are from the 100 or more tribes of Japhetic and Shemitic Arabs who settled in Egypt. And when you look at them, the majority of them are brown. Do yo want to know why? Read my next post.
A 3,400-year-old deceased Egyptian king
Rameses II
A present-day southern Egyptian man compared to King Rameses II (of 1,300 years ago) who ruled Ancient Egypt for 67 years.
A 1,300-years-old deceased Egyptian woman and a present-day southern Egyptian woman. Notice the hair texture and sandy color.
Ancient Egyptians (of the 25th Dynasty) compared to a present-day Ethiopian highland woman.
Ancient Egyptians and present-day Ethiopians.
Present-day Central African women. Notice the elongated head of the woman braiding hair.
Daughters of Akhenaton (circa 1350 BCE).
A Central African girl. Notice her elongated head (circa 1962).
A famous headbust of Akhenton’s daughter (circa 1350 BCE).
A present-day East African man resting on a traditional wooden headrest.
A 1,300-year-old Egyptian headrest.
An Egyptian king’s headrest (18th Dynasty)
http;//images.wisegeek.com/mummy.jpg
A deceased king of the 19th Dynasty. Notice that his head is resting on a funerary headrest.
Past and present-day ethnic groups in and near Egypt.
The Middle East, according to the Bible was settled by the descendants of Shem. The reason why this is important is because many of the Shemitic names used in the Bible are found in ancient history writings and in artifacts during archaeological finds. For example, Shem son’s Ashur called his descendants Assyrians. The Assyrians have been quoted by many ancient historians. So, the Bible’s genealogy cannot be discredited. Descendants of Ham also settled in the Middle East, modern day Iraq/Iran- ancients called Mesopotamia. The Ham descendants in and around Mesopotamia where Canaan sons, and Kush/Cush’s sons. Shem descendants were described by Iranian legends as having dark skin and curly hair. Japhetic white people were described as Olive skin or white. So, dark skin must have meant darker than olive or tanned skinned white people we know of today. When you look at the carvings of the different groups of people, the curls of the men were tight and puffy, which suggest woolly hair. So, the Shemtic people living in the Middle East during ancient times, had woolly hair, just like some of the sons of Ham. Some of the sons of Ham had straight hair. These people are found in India and the Indus Valley and a lot are still in Africa, who were mistakenly called Asians during the European Colonization of Africa.
on Mon Sep 8th 2014 at 05:27:12 ken williams
on Sat Sep 13th 2014 at 14:38:14 Cultural Question For Copts on Islam - Page 2 - Christian Forums
[…] the Egyptians UNIVERSALLY have features we'd deem to be Negroid traits? Not really. However, scientifically and culturally, it is the case that the Egyptians were a part-Black people and that there were many cases of having Negroid features present (far from a […]
on Tue Sep 16th 2014 at 17:14:18 chucks
To be honest the reality of Eygpt being a civilization of people with dark skin is an amazing fact that changes a lot of views a to what the old world and eygpt was actually like. what shocks me is how black civilizations went from such a high profile to what it is today. But there is a fact we are truly forgetting that the so called Europeans had a similar downward spiral in civilization the fall of Rome to the Germanic tribes lead to what they call the dark age. As at the time until renaissance the average European could not read or write while in places in Africa like Timbuktu the could read even the city known for its large number of books. the fact is this shows civilizations rise and fall and they don’t exactly continue to rise this is a perception this generation is losing it simply answers the question as to the poor condition of present day Africans. I conclude by saying we Africans need a new from of renaissance how and when it will happen we might never know.
on Thu Oct 30th 2014 at 02:18:44 Bobby M
Egypt was probably mixed race, but you are right that most of them would be considered black in the US today.
Ramesses II, however, was probably mostly white and had red hair.
Genghis Khan had reddish-brown hair and grayish-green eyes, both of which imply a mostly white genotype.
on Tue Nov 11th 2014 at 08:05:28 Michael Cooper
@ Bobby M
America was probably a mixed race landmass in 1200 CE. LOL!!
Ancient Egypt became a noticeable mixed-race nation after periodic successful invasions. Prior to the Greek invasion ancient Egypt was still a predominantly black nation (despite prior invasions by the Hykos, Assyrians and Persians, respectively).
The Khoisan people (Khoi Khoi and San) have the epicantic fold and yellowish skin hue, both of which imply a mostly East Asian phenotype (not genotype).
We, as a modern people, have a lot to learn about ancient history and ethnic groups.
on Tue Nov 11th 2014 at 13:48:16 sharinalr
There was once a discussion about why white people seem to believe certain features belong to them and if they do.
on Tue Nov 11th 2014 at 14:24:27 thwack
Bobby M
*Note to nonwhite people*
How old was Ramesses 2nd when he died? His hair was probably gray; that mummy’s hair is red because it is dyed with henna.
Don’t assume that just because white people put something in a museum, behind a glass case… that it is what they say it is.
on Fri Nov 21st 2014 at 06:40:12 atifraza
on Tue 11 Nov 2014 at 14:24:27thwack
on Mon Jan 12th 2015 at 04:26:53 Eman
I would not want to take credit for other civilizations . I think the whole idea of taking credit for African Egyptians is to not admit that black africans in ancient times were very Avanced black people. When I watch movies in America about the Jewish people, or the cannanites, or Egyptians or etc. The movies portray the people as white people. According to white people, every ancient civilization was white. It’s amazing to me that even when the evidence is right in their face, they will still deny what they see. I can see why when most black people are judged in a court room, they are found guilty by racist white people. I will add that not all white people are the same, because I have white in laws .
@ Eman
Interesting comment.
History, especially ancient history, does NOT mean anything to White people unless it validates who they are and what they’ve accomplished. The ancient Kushite (Nubian) civilization was a marvelous civilization, which, in actuality, predated and lasted longer than the ancient Egyptian civilization (3800 BCE to 550 ACE). However, the Kushite civilization is profoundly Black therefore to most White historians or archaeologists it’s not worth talking about. White archaeologists don’t make a big deal if a Kushite (Nubian) king or queen is unearthed. Cultural historian and archaeologist Anthony T. Browder was told the same thing by his White archaeologist peers when he and his archaeological team unearthed the 25th dynasty tomb of Kushite nobleman Karakhamun on the West Bank of Luxor a few years ago.
My previous comment was in no way a discredit to the ancient Egyptian civilization. After all, the ancient Egyptian civilization (Kemet) from 3100-343 BCE was profoundly Black, too.
Note: Dynasty 30 (380-343 BCE) was the last rulership by native-born Kemetic kings and queens.
on Mon Jan 12th 2015 at 14:57:11 thwack
it is my opinion that white people were more accurate with their descriptions and discoveries before anthropology and archeology became “professions” with the backing of big money, organizations or governments.
Once you start paying people for their work, they tend to search for and find what ever you want them to find instead of whats really there.
This is why I consider old work more accurate.
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Old_Exotic_Pictures/Old_Exotic_Pictures.htm
The paradox of new world monkeys is an example of the phenomenon.
White people claim the people in south American got there by walking across the bering straits between Russia and Alaska; then all the way down to South America.
Did the new world monkeys take that long walk?
White people say no.
White people say the monkeys in South America floated across the Atlantic ocean from Africa on big mats of grass.
But for some reason they deny black people from Africa could do the same thing with boats.
Monkeys can navigate the oceans but black people can’t. LOL
on Thu Feb 19th 2015 at 18:57:27 Kuech Deng Atem
The truth is that “The ancient Egyptians were Black(nilotic)”
on Fri Feb 20th 2015 at 02:17:04 gro jo
thwack, I don’t think you do justice to the argument against blacks reaching the Americas before Columbus. The main objection to that claim I’ve read was that if blacks had done so, they would have left traces of their presence on islands between Africa and the Americas. That claim can be refuted by finding such traces. Mansa Musa claimed that his predecessor, Abubakari Keita II sent two expeditions to the Americas. The last one was made up of 4000 pirogues using sails and oars. Given that such expedition was undertaken by blacks, I doubt that there’s much interest in finding any traces of it. Thor Heyerdahl traveled to Polynesia from Peru on a raft in 1948, so a trip like that could have been made,
on Fri Feb 20th 2015 at 15:09:16 Bokar
A very important point that is lacking from this discussion is what constitutes a West African. This latter point is a typical example of Western ignorance about Africa and its peopleS, there is a no single West African people and much less African. Every country in Africa that straddles the southern parts of the Sahara desert generally (not always) has lighter people in the north and darker in the south in the same way as they did in Ancient Egypt. This idea of putting all West Africans as looking like Nubians (although Nubia was an integral part of Egypt and its history) is completely false and only an invention of Westerners. Several groups be they Fulani (the most extensive group in West and Central Africa), Touareg and other West African berber groups, In Tibous, Habesha (Semitic mix) even darker groups like the Wolof, Sarakollé, Songhay, Hausa often do not have Western specified “Negroid features”nor do the ORIGINAL africans (bushman and pygmies”). By this IGNORANCE of the most basic understanding of Africans and thier diversity in origin in color, there is an attempt to deny Africa of its rightful place in Ancient Egypt’s record long history.
on Fri Feb 20th 2015 at 16:09:00 resw77
The whole idea that “Nubians” were dark and Egyptians were light is a myth. The truth is “Nubian” royalty depicted themselves in the same SYMBOLIC red-brown colour (ochre) as Egyptian royalty:
Plus “Nubian” is one of those Egyptologist-invented terms that means nothing in antiquity. It was invented only to distinguish ancient Nilotics with certain features.
Egyptologists call any ancient Egyptian with certain features a Nubian:
Why do Egyptologists call Maherperi, an Egyptian, a “Nubian”? No reason but his features.
on Fri Feb 20th 2015 at 17:31:37 thwack
gro jo
thwack, I don’t think you do justice to the argument against blacks reaching the Americas before Columbus. The main objection to that claim I’ve read was that if blacks had done so, they would have left traces of their presence on islands between Africa and the Americas.
Could these “traces” you speak of be genetic?
If white people discovered these “traces” would they tell you?
White people have no problem claiming the Vikings discovered America before Columbus despite a lack of these “traces.?” Their puffery and boosterism of “Kenniwick man” and “Soloutrian man’, “Clovis man…” knows no end.
Where I live the only “traces” of Native Americans left in North America are in the names and spelling we use for the geography.
Do you have evidence for genetic traces? How about artifacts such as statues, pottery, boats,weapons, tools or domesticated animals that shouldn’t be on the other side of the Atlantic. The fact that you put traces in quotation indicates that you find the search for evidence silly. Why?
The fact that you put traces in quotation indicates that you find the search for evidence silly. Why?
Please check your ego.
One of the reasons I annoy people is I force them to tighten up their language. I spank you like a white person; better I get to you before they do.
thwack, your answer is nonsense. I don’t care if you like my attitude or not. I asked you the questions I did because I thought you knew something on the subject. If you do I’ll be glad to hear what you have to say, otherwise I’ll just ignore you. My language was pretty specific and fact based.
Fact #1 Mansa Musa Keita I claimed Abubakari Keita II left with 4000 pirogues and never returned. Fact #2 No evidence that I’m aware of has been found of this expedition. Maybe nobody looked for said evidence. Fact #3 Thor Heyerdahl traveled to Polynesia from Peru on a raft in 1948. Polynesians traveled and colonized wide swaths of the Pacific on boats like the ones Abubakari Keita II used. My question to you stands, you are free to answer or not.
on Fri Mar 13th 2015 at 00:03:36 Catoyounger
Its hard to know where to start with this article. I realize this is several years old, but such ignorance can’t be allowed to stand without being confronted. Ancient Egyptians were a separate people group mixed from black africans and semitic peoples. Their country DID include black Africans, as well as brown people. You can clearly look at their wall paintings and see that they themselves distinguished skin color. You will see “tan” people, “red” people, and “black” people in the paintings. Except for the period in which Nubia took part of Egypt, the Egyptians however (at least the ruling class for most of their history) were not black nor did they consider themselves such. Whether you agree with what I wrote till now does not really matter, because Western Civilization DID NOT come from Egypt! Egypt, for all its greatness, was a dead end. Western Civilization comes from Greece via Rome and England. America owes no debt to Egypt.
Its hard to know where to start with this article
Then don’t bother!
on Fri Mar 13th 2015 at 03:04:57 sharinalr
@Catoyounger
You can confront it, but you did not really dispute it either. It is common sense that they distinguished skin color, but a difference in skin color does not equate to race.
“Except for the period in which Nubia took part of Egypt, the Egyptians however (at least the ruling class for most of their history) were not black nor did they consider themselves such.”—They also did not consider themselves white or Asian or any other race that people wish to categorize them as. For the most part they were a mixed race and by todays standards would be black. You may be able to claim white during the time of roman rule, but overall it seems silly to claim a person black today by the 1 drop rule and then later try to deny a group is black for whatever gain you seek.
If you indeed trace back far enough western civilization has it’s roots in Egypt. An article was written on this, but I will have to find it to post it.
on Fri Mar 13th 2015 at 04:15:35 Diasporan
Here’s a site that discusses Kmt by using the latest research, not throwing tired worn out white supremacist canard about a non-indigenous African origin and peopling of the Nile Valley. They were Africans.
Game. Set. Match.
http://egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/thread/1628/scholarship-2014-african-origin-egyptians?page=2
on Fri Mar 13th 2015 at 15:07:48 resw77
“Except for the period in which Nubia took part of Egypt, the Egyptians however…were not black nor did they consider themselves such”
Well, they did in fact call themselves black people. Western scholars largely agree that the hieroglyph that appears in the description of Egyptian people means black.
“Western Civilization comes from Greece via Rome and England. ”
And Greek civilisation largely comes from Egypt via Egyptian colonists in Greece and Greek expats in Egypt. You just chose a much later starting point in history.
Didorus said: “Even the Athenians, they say, are Colonists from Sais in Egypt”
And as Herodotus said, “Almost all the names of the gods came into Greece from Egypt…. there are many other practices whereof I shall speak hereafter, which the Greeks have BORROWED from Egypt”
@”America owes no debt to Egypt.”
Then why does America pay so much tribute to Egypt?
@sharinalr
“For the most part they were a mixed race and by todays standards would be black.”
Perhaps a bit in later years after the invasions of Hyksos, Hittites, Greeks, Persians and Romans., but in the civilisation’s long history, it was largely African, not mixed, and the royal blood lines came from the South, not outside of Africa.
on Fri Mar 13th 2015 at 19:51:12 ken williams
Why doesn’t everyone simply ask and consult the Hollywood executives . They
always seem to know the answers .
@resw77
Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge.
on Sat Apr 4th 2015 at 10:09:55 Manny Bruce
I find the ancient Egypt race issue hilarious. When it comes to the historical race of countries and empires on the continents of what we called today Europe or Asia there is no question that these people were of Caucasoid or mongoliod decent and no one will even consider the involvement of Negriod or the mixture of Negriod Involvement in these histories( Except for the Moores in Spain which is downed played concerning there Negriod background. Hence OTHELLO ). But when it comes to the race of a people in a civilization on the continent of Africa all of a sudden it is unknown , inconclusive , ambiguous , doesn’t matter , but God forbid they are Negriod. Amazing. The person who commented that people are only interested in ancient Egypt is because white folks are , is 100% correct. The reason they are interested is because they believe intelligence is defined through material constructs and the larger and more elaborate the constructs the more intelligent you must be. It is this misguided assumption that led them to oppress , exploit , Robb , destroy and showed utter contempt towards those who they believed to be primitive , meaning not having respectable buildings , ships , weapons , and wealth , in accordance to their values which are in the importance of material achievements. They are not interested in a people who lived in a social structure of harmony , of sharing , of peace , of respectable co existence with nature or neighbors. If these people didn’t build large stone constructs or shown to have made large military conquest and all they did was live in grass huts or teepees and farmed and hunt then these people did nothing significant and therefore are unintelligent. So this is the reason why all the history through out Africa and through out the world gets overlooked or trivialized . Now that today’s world has been conditioned in holding material achievements of sole importance then the ancient Egyptian material constructs becomes a battle of claim , and since it’s on a continent that was told to the wold to be the home of a race of people that are primitive , savages and unintelligent , well then this becomes a problem.
on Sun Apr 19th 2015 at 03:29:09 Matthew Rooyakkers
I am not stating anything racist here, just factual. I’ve have spent a good amount of time throughout Egypt recently and can tell you this, blacks were only in ancient Egypt as slaves, nothing more and this has even been depicted on ancient Egyptian Hyroglyphics in the temple of Luxor and other places. The masterminds of ancient Egyptian civilization were not black but rather berbers who were brown. Even today whether you are in Cairo where the Giza pyramids are or at Abu Simbel near the Sudanese border, you will find that ethnic Egyptians are not blacks/negroes but berbers. These people (including the Nubians of the far South near Sudan) have brown skin and do not possess the wide noses or the fuzzy hair that Blacks do. It is a fact that when Europeans first arrived in Sub Saharan Africa that the wheel had not yet been created there. In fact Afrocentrists have tried to take credit for what the moors did when they conquered Spain who were were also not black but berbers as well. Here is a link providing further facts on why the ancient Egyptians were not black
http://www.ambrosekane.com/2014/05/16/the-myths-blacks-believe-the-ancient-egyptians-were-negroes-and-built-the-grand-pyramids/
Here’s a link providing factual information and DNA evidence on why Ancient Egyptians were not black. http://www.ambrosekane.com/2014/05/16/the-myths-blacks-believe-the-ancient-egyptians-were-negroes-and-built-the-grand-pyramids/
on Sun Apr 19th 2015 at 04:20:55 sharinalr
@Matthew Rooyakkers
I will comment at length in more time, but the link you provided does not claim a fact or present one. What is does show is Eurocentric nonsense. It fails to present nothing more than an opinion that lacks this DNA evidence that you claim it has.
“I am not stating anything racist here, just factual. I’ve have spent a good amount of time throughout Egypt recently and can tell you this, blacks were only in ancient Egypt as slaves, nothing more and this has even been depicted on ancient Egyptian Hyroglyphics in the temple of Luxor and other places”—Unless Luxor is the only temple in Egypt then I doubt it is ample proof to support the claim that blacks were only in Egypt as slaves. There were some in their as slaves but research shows other groups outnumbered blacks as slaves.
Secondly here you can not define or categorize Egyptians of the past in the same light as Egyptians today. Mainly because Egypt was conquered at different points in history that resulted in mixing. The most recent Egyptians are a mixture of Arabs. Egypt was conquered by Arabs at some point.
“These people (including the Nubians of the far South near Sudan) have brown skin and do not possess the wide noses or the fuzzy hair that Blacks do”—–Here is a Nubian of today. https://billygambelaafroasiaticanthropology.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/nubian-cuz.jpg
I am sure they are very diverse and can not be categorized by what you want to see.
on Sat Jul 11th 2015 at 06:17:15 Vid
Egypt was no way built by Africans. Egypt is in Northern of Africa Continent but the Egyptians were not Africans.. Pharaohs had golden skin not black (May be by Ethiopan-Europeans or Indo-Europeans). Ethiopians have White features except skin. How about the Pyramids in MAYA? Were those pyramids built by Africans too?
Some of the Black folks who go around and fight with others and claim that ancient great civilization such as Egypt was built by their ancestors their is purely racist.
Listen to Dr. James David Manning. He speaks the true about his own African race. I am not the one who said it, Many great Black intellectuals such as Dr. Manning admitted it.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0stJkUWUyM)
on Wed Oct 7th 2015 at 19:08:09 pshamasapobecks
on Wed Oct 7th 2015 at 20:24:51 Gen
“Egypt is in Northern of Africa Continent but the Egyptians were not Africans..”
^ This is a level of stupid one simply cannot argue against.
Interesting how the overseas racists ‘know’ more about ancient Egypt than they do about modern day Africa.
on Wed Oct 7th 2015 at 21:18:52 Uglyblackjohn
@ taotesan – I’m dead… That pretty much sums it up.
I am having a giggle-fest how King Tut and Nefertiti are subjected to American colourism. If one hypothetically believed in reincarnation and King Tut lived in USA, the odds are a million to one he would be a statistic in either the industrial prison complex or amongst the unarmed killed by the police than a Teabagger.
on Tue Oct 27th 2015 at 23:12:03 Man of Sin
The one-drop rule was a southern state thing was was abandoned decades ago.
on Tue Oct 27th 2015 at 23:40:36 sharinalr
@Man of Sin
As someone who lives in the south, No it has not been abandoned.
on Wed Oct 28th 2015 at 10:18:56 abagond
@ Man of Sin
When did the South give up the One Drop Rule? How do you know?
on Mon Feb 1st 2016 at 06:19:22 Francky O'Connor
Well, there’s actually a stronger theory that I’ve learnt while studying history at university and it was that the first Egyptian originated from south India, thus being taken as black African.
However It seems that they’ve stayed in Ethiopia and brought their knowledge to become then the Pharaohs. There’s actually a few books written on this subject, I’m very surprised that you guys are only arguing about if they were black African or Caucasian. They were most probably Indian, It would actually settle the feud isn’t it ?
on Mon Feb 1st 2016 at 10:04:16 Manny Bruce
No, the Ancient Egyptians were black Africans , regardless if they were dark , brown or of a lighter skin tone. I find it interesting that the white race now wants to start nick picking the classification of who is in the black race. Back in the past when it was advantageous for them to lump all dark complexion , including mulattos , as being black , so that they could expliot and oppress more people on the planet for not being from the privileged white race. When they had ” white ” and ” Black ” only signs in existence there were no question as to whom were ” Black “. The East Indian man who had petitioned the united States’ courts to have his ” Caucasian ” status recognized in the States was given a dose of hard reality when he was denied the status that they themselves had classified him as. They giveth and they taketh when it’s in their interest to do so. Only now that the world’s population of people of color are growing and their influence over the world is shrinking , they are resulting to the old tactics of ” Divide and Conquer “. Latinos , Asians , Indians , Africans , Arabs , you are all black ! So , let us leave the white man on his small island that HE created for himself in the sea of humanity.
on Mon Feb 8th 2016 at 22:14:23 evenwhenilie
…..White people always try to discredit ancient witnesses, you can’t say that other people’s had black skin and woolly hair to because they also said the Egyptians had hair and skin like the Ethiopians and made no attempt to separate the two in terms of description… When it comes to the Egyptians depicting themselves as different from other Africans those differences are purely artistic… Other black Africans see themselves as different from other black Africans and the artists makes it felt through his creation that doesn’t mean they look different…. Just think of the Hutu and Tutsi tribes, who look like they can be brothers and sisters but yet and still they artistically show differences in their description of one another. This is well documented… White peoples need to stop trying to historically places themselves in Africa/Egypt before they actually were. They were black Africans initially, the skeletal remains show that, why; how could they turn white over night or within a few hundred years, white people aren’t that old of a race..
on Tue Feb 9th 2016 at 00:22:10 Manny Bruce
“Ancient Egyptians weren’t black , as in the same description of darker black Africans ” . What bull shit. Now whites wants to nick pick the amount of melon in an African’s skin to determine whose a ” Black ” African. This is the same bull crap they used to divide Rwanda , as in the movie ” Hotel Rwanda “. The Belgium’s selected the Rwandans with lighter tones and/or with less prominent facial features and placed them in a better social status over the darker tone Rwandans , whom were the majority. This caused , strife , division , and violence , amongst the Rwandans , even though , they were all black Rwandans. These hateful people thrives on creating separations and turmiols amongst people of color. The American Indians said it the best , ” THEY SPEAK WITH FORK TONGUES ” , as with a snake’s tongue.
on Sun May 28th 2017 at 06:07:53 Jason Muniz
Someone probably beat me to it.This this is what the ancient Ethiopians said concerning the Egyptians(note: Ethiopian does not mean someone from the modern nation state of Ethiopia but literally just means “blacks”):
“They say also that the Egyptians are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris having been the leader of the colony. For, speaking generally, what is now Egypt, they maintain, was not land but sea when in the beginning the universe was being formed; afterwards, however, as the Nile during the times of its inundation carried down the mud from Ethiopia, land was gradually built up from the deposit. Also the statement that all the land of the Egyptians is alluvial silt deposited by the river receives the clearest proof, in their opinion, from what takes place at the outlets of the Nile; for as each year new mud is continually gathered together at the mouths of the river, the sea is observed being thrust back by the deposited silt and the land receiving the increase. And the larger part of the customs of the Egyptians are, they hold, Ethiopian, the colonists still preserving their ancient manners. For instance, the belief that their kings are gods, the very special attention which they pay to their burials, and many other matters of a similar nature are Ethiopian practices, while the shapes of their statues and the forms of their letters are Ethiopian; for of the two kinds of writing which the Egyptians have, that which is known as “popular” (demotic) is learned by everyone, while that which is called “sacred” is understood only by the priests of the Egyptians, who learn it from their fathers as one of the things which are not divulged, but among the Ethiopians everyone uses these forms of letters. Furthermore, the orders of the priests, they maintain, have much the same position among both peoples; for all are clean who are engaged in the service of the gods, keeping themselves shaven, like the Egyptian priests, and having the same dress and form of staff, which is shaped like a plough and is carried by their kings, who wear high felt hats which end in a knob at the top and are circled by the serpents which they call asps; and this symbol appears to carry the thought that it will be the lot of those who shall dare to attack the king to encounter death-carrying stings. Many other things are also told by them concerning their own antiquity and the colony which they sent out that became the Egyptians, but about this there is no special need of our writing anything.”
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Diodorus_Siculus/3A*.html
Personally I think Afro-Asiatic originated around Northeast Africa(Somalia, Ethiopia, Sudan, Eritrea etc) as well as Yemen. From there it moved north until reaching the what is now Syria and there the Afro-Asiatics met the ancestors of Indo-Europeans, Georgians etc. The Phoenicians, another people that was respected for their antiquity by the Greeks and Romans, thought they originally came from the Erythraean Sea, which can only mean what is now Yemen. Herodotus relates that about the Phoenicians.
on Sun May 28th 2017 at 16:02:55 Afrofem
@ Jason Muniz
on Wed May 31st 2017 at 20:11:35 gro jo
The latest genetic study on Ancient Egyptians says they were Whiter than present day Egyptians. the study did not include upper Nile cataract Egyptians, I wonder why? http://www.newsweek.com/egyptian-mummy-dna-study-suggests-close-ties-middle-east-europe-617767
on Thu Jun 1st 2017 at 16:39:06 gro jo
I thought this news item would elicit tons of comments, I was wrong.
on Thu Jun 1st 2017 at 20:42:04 Afrofem
@ gro jo
Perhaps it’s because it’s Newsweek we are talking about. One person who commented on the Newsweek site summed it up perfectly:
Galen Ztoo
I hate to point out the obvious but this is by no means a complete study and it seems to try to walk a fine line between the sensational and out right Bad reporting. The article states that 151 mummies were “looked at” however only three yielded full mapping And one gene had origins from Europe. And how many genes in the human body kids… 20,000. Smoke does not a fire make, lets Waite before we say that Europeans built the pyramids…”
Newsweek’s biases are well known.
Bias runs deep in such studies. When obviously black people are found it becomes a mystery: “The cemetery’s size and the orderly east-west arrangement of the graves suggested to us that there might be over 100 graves here, indicating a sizeable population of Nubians at Hierakonpolis. Even after severe plundering, the objects we found show that these people had access to a certain level of wealth. They were able to afford wooden coffins, scarabs, and so forth, yet they retained their Nubian burial practices and ceramic technology. It seems unlikely that they were slaves or domestic servants, but who were they? And what are they doing at Hierakonpolis? These are some of the tantalizing questions that in November 2003, with the assistance of a grant from the Michela Schiff-Giorgini Foundation, we returned to the cemetery to try to answer.” http://interactive.archaeology.org/hierakonpolis/nubians.html
Thanks for the link. I will have to read this more deeply.
on Thu Jun 1st 2017 at 23:14:00 Jason Muniz
@gro jo
I’m sure that if a bunch of white mummies with Gallic characteristics were found in Egypt, the studies would say that they were traders or mercenaries thereby redeeming them. However we know that the Gauls were far from being peaceful. The Romans and Greeks hated the Gauls and(correctly) saw them as plunderers.
on Fri Jun 2nd 2017 at 04:03:17 Origin
I just came across an account by Diodorus, A Greek Historian, that I was not previously aware of:
Now the Ethiopians, as historians relate, were the first of all men and the proofs of this statement, they say, are manifest. For that they did not come into their land as immigrants from abroad but were p91natives of it and so justly bear the name of “autochthones” is, they maintain, conceded by practically all men; furthermore, that those who dwell beneath the noon-day sun were, in all likelihood, the first to be generated by the earth, is clear to all; since, inasmuch as it was the warmth of the sun which, at the generation of the universe, dried up the earth when it was still wet and impregnated it with life, it is reasonable to suppose that the region which was nearest the sun was the first to bring forth living creatures.
Now Diodorus was Greek and Ethiopia is an untranslated Greek word in the text above that has been borrowed into English. Today Ethiopia makes us think of the modern country of Ethiopia but the Greek word actually comes from Aithiops which means “burnt-face”. So Diodorus is saying that the “burnt-faced people” were the first of all men and goes on to reason that life should reasonably start first under the sun’s heat.
But he doesn’t stop there:
They say also that the Egyptians are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris having been the leader of the colony. For, speaking generally, what is now Egypt, they maintain, was not land but sea when in the beginning the universe was being formed; afterwards, however, as the Nile during the times of its inundation carried down the mud from Ethiopia, land was gradually built up from the deposit.
So after establishing that the Ethiopian, or “burnt-faced people”, were the “first of all men” and the original natives (autochthones) Diodorus relates that they say the Egyptians were Ethiopian colonists. What follows is, to me, a somewhat astonishing account of the creation of the Nile delta. Can you imagine people in New Orleans casually relating that long ago this area was sea but as the river deposited sediment it became dry land and our ancestors came from the North to settle it? How long would you have to have been living in the area to say that?
Diodoros goes on to comment on how they back up the statement that the Nile generated the land of Egypt and compares Egyptian and broader Ethiopian custom.
Also the statement that all the land of the Egyptians is alluvial silt deposited by the river receives the clearest proof, in their opinion, from what takes place at the outlets of the Nile; for as each year new mud is continually gathered together at the mouths of the river, the sea is observed being thrust back by the deposited silt and the land receiving the increase.
And the larger part of the customs of the Egyptians are, they hold, Ethiopian, the colonists still preserving their ancient manners. For instance, the belief that their kings are gods, the very special attention which they pay to their burials, and many other matters of a similar nature are Ethiopian practices, while the shapes of their statues and the forms of their letters are Ethiopian; for of the two kinds of writing which the Egyptians have, that which is known as “popular” (demotic) is learned by everyone, while that which is called “sacred” is understood only by the priests of the Egyptians, who learn it from their fathers as one of the things which are not divulged, but among the Ethiopians everyone uses these forms of letters.
The Greeks took, but didn’t try to hide where they took from because it would have been impossible. However, as Egypt was conquered and the original people left or intermixed with the Greeks, Romans and Arabs the demographics of the area changed and it became fashionable to try to whitewash ancient Egypt to complete the destruction of the black people. Constantine de Volney’s 1787 account of his visit to Egypt (then ruled by the Islamic Ottoman Empire) reveals the evolved attitudes. While Diodorus was just frankly relating the facts as he knew them, de Volney had to be shocked given the fact that blacks were now seen as a slave race.
“Travels thorugh Syria and Egypt”
[This is an English translation; the original is in French. I start from about page 78 and continue, with skips, to 83]
https://archive.org/details/travelsthroughs02volngoog
A second race of inhabitants are the Copts, called in Arabic el Kobt.
It is pretended that the name Copts is derived from the city of Coptus, whither it has been affirmed they retired from the tyranny of the Greeks; but I am inclined to think it has a more natural and more ancient origin. The Arabic term Kopti, a Copt, seems to me an evident abbreviation of the Greek word Ai-goupti-os, an Egyptian, for the ‘y’ was prounounced ‘ou’, among the ancient Greeks and the Arabs, having neither ‘p’ or ‘g’ before ‘a’, ‘o’, or ‘u’, always substitute for these letters ‘k’ and ‘b’; the Copts then are properly the remains of the Ancient Egyptians.
This will be rendered still more probable if we consider the distinguishing features of this race of people; we shall find them all characterized by a sort of yellowish, dusky complexion which is neither Grecian or Arabian; they have all a puffed visage, swollen eyes, flat noses, and thick lips, in short the exact countenance of a mulatto. I was at first tempted to attribute this to climate but when I visited this sphinx I could not help thinking the figure of that monster furnished the true solution of the enigma: when I say its features precisely those of a Negro I recollected the remarkable passage of Herodotus [Origin: another Greek historian] in which he says, “For my part I believe the Colchi to be a “colony of the Egyptians”, because, like them, “they have black skins and frizzled hair;” that is the Ancient Egyptians were real negroes, of the same species with all the natives of Africa; and though, as might be expected, after mixing for so many ages with the Greeks and Romans, they have lost the intensity of their first colour, yet they still retain strong marks of their original conformation.
But to return to Egypt: this historical fact affords to philosophy an interesting subject of reflection. How are we astonished when we behold the present barbarism and ignorance of the Copts, descended from the proud genius of the Egyptians, and the brilliant imagination of the Greeks; when we reflect that to the race of negroes, at present our slaves, and the objects of our extreme contempt, we owe our arts, sciences, and even the very use of speech; and when the recollect that, in the midst of those nations who call themselves friends of liberty and humanity, the most barbarous of slaveries is justified; and that it is even a problem whether the understanding of negroes be of the same species with that of white men [ie. whether they have the same intelligence]!
The race of the Ancient Egyptians would not even be a debate if it weren’t for the fact that Eurasian invaders dominate “Egyptology” and seek to distort the truth whenever possible, as is their custom.
It’s quite fascinating that white people are sometimes implausibly inserted into Ancient Egypt when they aren’t even sure how they ended up in Europe!
Take this National Geographic article from 2013, for instance:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/13/130423-european-genetic-history-dna-archaeology-science/
Europeans as a people are younger than we thought, a new study suggests.
DNA recovered from ancient skeletons reveals that the genetic makeup of modern Europe was established around 4,500 B.C. in the mid-Neolithic—or 6,500 years ago— and not by the first farmers who arrived in the area around 7,500 years ago or by earlier hunter-gatherer groups.
“The genetics show that something around that point caused the genetic signatures of previous populations to disappear,” said Alan Cooper, director of the Australian Centre for Ancient DNA at the University of Adelaide, where the research was performed.
“However, we don’t know what happened or why, and [the mid-Neolithic] has not been previously identified as [a time] of major change,” he said.
Furthermore, the origins of the mid-Neolithic populations that did form the basis of modern Europe are also unknown.
“This population moves in around 4,000 to 5,000 [B.C.], but where it came from remains a mystery, as we can’t see anything like it in the areas surrounding Europe,” Cooper said.
So you have people living in Europe, then the people whose descendants we’ll know as modern Europeans [white people] move in around 6500 years ago then the original people go “poof”. Scientists cannot establish where these new people originated; they just appeared suddenly and took over.
In a section I won’t quote the article speaks of mitochondrial DNA (present in an organelle in your cells which you inherit from your mother) and how a particular haplogroup [or set of genes inherited together], called H, is dominant among modern Europeans. It then continues to give an account of what it considers to be the history of migration into Europe.
The first modern humans to reach Europe arrived from Africa 35,000 to 40,000 years ago. By about 30,000 years ago, they were widespread throughout the area while their close cousins, the Neanderthals, disappeared. Hardly any of these early hunter-gatherers carried the H haplogroup in their DNA.
About 7,500 years ago during the early Neolithic period, another wave of humans expanded into Europe, this time from the Middle East. They carried in their genes a variant of the H haplogroup, and in their minds knowledge of how to grow and raise crops. (Related: “Egypt’s Earliest Farming Village Found.”)
Archeologists call these first Central European farmers the linear pottery culture (LBK)—so named because their pottery often had linear decorations.
In this study we show that changes in the European archaeological record are accompanied by genetic changes, suggesting that cultural shifts were accompanied by the migration of people and their DNA.”
The LBK group and its descendants were very successful and spread quickly across Europe. “They became the first pan-European culture, if you like,” Cooper said.
Given their success, it would be natural to assume that members of the LBK culture were significant genetic ancestors of many modern Europeans.
But the team’s genetic analysis revealed a surprise:
So they claim that a second wave of immigration from the Middle East (yet they claim an article on Egypt is “related” so perhaps they’re still talking about Africa) brought farmers and they eventually became the dominant culture in Europe. However they still aren’t the primary ancestors of modern Europeans according to the article.
About 6,500 years ago in the mid-Neolithic, the LBK culture was itself displaced. Their haplogroup H types suddenly became very rare, and they were subsequently replaced by populations bearing a different set of haplogroup H variations.
Mysterious Turnover
The details of this “genetic turnover” event are murky. Scientists don’t know what prompted it, or even where the new colonizers came from.
Of Mysterious Origins
One thing that is clear from the genetic data is that nearly half of modern Europeans can trace their origins back to this mysterious group.
“About [4,500 B.C.], you start seeing a diversity and composition of genetic signatures that are beginning to look like modern [Central] Europe,” Cooper said. “This composition is then modified by subsequent cultures moving in, but it’s the first point at which you see something like the modern European genetic makeup in place.”
Whatever prompted the replacement of genetic signatures from the first pan-European culture, Cooper is clearly intrigued. “Something major happened,” he said in a statement, “and the hunt is now on to find out what that was.”
So there it is, they don’t know where the ancestors of most modern Europeans came from. They appeared, out of nowhere, about 6500 years ago [i.e 4500 BC, we’re in 2000+ CE]. I find it fascinating that this timeframe corresponds to the timing suggested by some for the biblical creation of Adam [which can mean rosy, red, or ruddy] by the Elohim [technically plural, “gods”] and also the gradual selective breeding of a new psychopathic race of people by a black mad scientist called Yakub [according to NOI]. Perhaps, sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.
In any case, such a young race, appearing in 4500 BC, did not originate the customs of the very ancient Nile Valley civilization of which Egypt was a part. They invaded it later from the North just as history tells us after which it died, the Pyramids’ white limestone cladding eventually removed to build mosques. It now sits in ruins while the descendants of the destroyers try to erase even the memory of the natives.
on Fri Jun 2nd 2017 at 16:27:16 Afrofem
@ Origin
“they don’t know where the ancestors of most modern Europeans came from. They appeared, out of nowhere, about 6500 years ago [i.e 4500 BC, we’re in 2000+ CE].”
There is some speculation that modern Europeans are the descendants of Africans who migrated and lived in Europe. Those African migrants gradually mutated to thrive in the colder environment over a period of ten thousand years.
There is also speculation that the African migrants intermingled with the pre-existing Neanderthal population in Europe which hastened the mutations.
Yes, Africans did migrate into Europe and the general explanation is that Africans became white for reasons such you mentioned. However, according to the National Geographic article they don’t know how the particular set of people, who became the ancestors of modern, white Europeans, arose. There was a relatively sudden change in quite recent timeframes.
Eg.
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/04/how-europeans-evolved-white-skin
Most of us think of Europe as the ancestral home of white people. But a new study shows that pale skin, as well as other traits such as tallness and the ability to digest milk as adults, arrived in most of the continent relatively recently. The work, presented here last week at the 84th annual meeting of the American Association of Physical Anthropologists, offers dramatic evidence of recent evolution in Europe and shows that most modern Europeans don’t look much like those of 8000 years ago.
And the study looking at one particular genetic marker:
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2656
Haplogroup H dominates present-day Western European mitochondrial DNA variability (>40%), yet was less common (~19%) among Early Neolithic farmers (~5450 BC) and virtually absent in Mesolithic hunter-gatherers. Here we investigate this major component of the maternal population history of modern Europeans and sequence 39 complete haplogroup H mitochondrial genomes from ancient human remains. We then compare this ‘real-time’ genetic data with cultural changes taking place between the Early Neolithic (~5450 BC) and Bronze Age (~2200 BC) in Central Europe. Our results reveal that the current diversity and distribution of haplogroup H were largely established by the Mid Neolithic (~4000 BC)
Dated haplogroup H genomes allow us to reconstruct the recent evolutionary history of haplogroup H and reveal a mutation rate 45% higher than current estimates for human mitochondria.
So according to these sources, Europe started to resemble the Europe we know (the home of the white people) approximately 6000 years ago [4000 BC] and it did so relatively suddenly. There were migrations into Europe from Africa tens of thousands of years ago but the transformation of the population into people like today’s “Europeans” was quite a rapid and recent process.
I brought it up because it suggests that the idea that white people are very “ancient” may be flawed and that is clearly one prerequisite for ORIGINATING Africa’s Nile Valley civilization which is very old. Obviously, whites showed up and eventually took over. That’s how the civilization came to an end after existing for millenia.
on Wed Jun 21st 2017 at 01:40:32 abagond
Proof that Ancient Egypt was not White:
And y'all still think white people ruled Ancient Egypt? https://t.co/lrsPPSrB7Q
— NASA boy (@kurtisrai) June 19, 2017
on Wed Jun 21st 2017 at 03:06:06 Afrofem
Those are some nasty burns.
His descendants wouldn’t live long enough to mutate in Egypt.
on Wed Jun 21st 2017 at 03:26:46 Mary Burrell
@Afrofem: Hope that doesn’t turn to skin cancer that looked gruesome. The sun is no joke.
on Wed Jun 21st 2017 at 04:19:28 Solitaire
I just skimmed through the Twitter comments. He got that massive sunburn in Scotland ffs!
on Wed Jan 31st 2018 at 02:20:16 abagond
@ Ras Troydon
Comment deleted. No calls for violence, please. It is in my WordPress user agreement.
on Wed Apr 10th 2019 at 18:41:33 whycantwebefriends
If one were to really look at humans as they exist in all their variety, one would find people ranging from light pinkish to orangey to dark brownish in their skin colours. But hard pressed would one be to find only one white or black individual. Egypt was in africa. That should suffice. But egypt in all it’s glory was also majorly stupid for erecting such expensive gravestones for their dictators, imho. Just kidding they were neat. And while it is fascinating to learn about one’s heritage, race is for dogs or for fast cars.
on Wed Apr 10th 2019 at 19:58:56 Manny Bruce
Egypt was in Africa ? It’s still in Africa .
Let’s debate if the ancient Greeks and Romans were ” white ” , as they are constantly depicted . Egypt/Kemet is African history and they were black Africans . Even with descriptions from ancient Greeks , Romans , Hebrews , and the Egyptians referencing themselves as ascendants from the southern black skin people nations , many people are still in denial of the Egyptians being a nation of black people .
The talk about the ancient Egyptians being black , but not ” black ” as per se today’s standards is ridiculous . Smh . Couldn’t the same rhetoric be applied to the referring of the ancient Greeks and Romans as being ” white ” , but yet their whiteness are not called into question . If a crime victim had given the description of their assailant as the same description the Greek Herodotus gaved in describing the ancient Egyptians , having black skin And wooly hair , everyone would say that the wanted perpetrator was a BLACK PERSON . Now that the ” black description ” is attached to ancient people who have accomplished historically grand feats it now becomes so inconclusive to the identity of the description . So pathetic 😔
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Long Island nanny gets up to 3 years for assaulting 2-week-old infant
SEARINGTOWN, Long Island -- A Long Island nanny who assaulted a 2-week-old infant in her care was sentenced Thursday to one to three years in prison.
The alleged assault happened in June of 2017 inside a home in Searingtown. Stacy Sakeran, 57, of Jamaica, was employed as a nanny for the family when the baby's father heard his daughter crying out in pain just after 1:30 a.m.
The parents reviewed video from a camera installed in the baby's room and observed Sakeran forcefully moving the baby around and slapping her in the face. They then viewed video from previous days and saw the nanny yelling at the infant and striking her several times with an opened hand.
"She was kind of jostling the baby, and then I saw her slap the baby and then put the bottle in her mouth," dad Sibi John said. "I looked back and saw that she was basically doing it every night."
In court at the sentencing, mom Ruby John read an emotional impact statement.
"You were starving and abusing her," she said. "You slapped her. You shook her. You abused my baby while I was in the house."
Sakeran, who pleaded guilty to charges instead of going to trial, made only one comment.
"I am very, very sorry," she said.
The sentence offered new hope to the family.
"It feels like we've been living through a nightmare for the last year," Ruby John said. "We trusted her because we needed it. We were in a vulnerable situation, and I feel like she took advantage of it. And she hurt an innocent baby."
"I think it was a blessing we found out," Sibi John added. "Just glad she has the sentence, and hopefully she won't be able to take care of any other kids."
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Be Kind: Police payment of kids' school lunch debt sparks other acts of kindness
SUFFERN, Rockland County (WABC) -- A Rockland County police department is providing an example of how one act of kindness can spark other acts of kindness.
Police in Suffern are paying off more than $1500 in lunch money that students owed their elementary school.
And because of that, others want to do the same thing at other schools.
The students at RP Connor Elementary School in Suffern have no idea they are the beneficiaries of a rather substantial gift.
It comes from the Suffern Police Department's D.A.R.E. program, which contributed money to pay off the lunch meal balances for hundreds of students.
"It's huge," said parent Jen Haas. "I mean parents, we're all struggling every now and then financially. And to not have to worry about whether their child is going to eat lunch is a huge deal."
It was Suffern's police chief who came up with the idea. That's not surprising, considering Clark Osborn served 10 years as the school's D.A.R.E. officer and 13 years as a school board member.
Many years ago, he attended RP Connor Elementary School.
"I feel like we are getting the biggest blessing," said Osborn. "And even doing something for us like this is great just to show people that there are so many things you can do outside the box. This is not a normal thing to do, we know."
Word has spread about the D.A.R.E. program's generosity. Potential donors in nearby Sloatsburg and Montebello have already inquired about footing the school lunch bill in their communities.
Principal Kelly Benadi told us that's a win-win for everyone.
"That's the message - be kind, be nice, help other people," said Benadi. "We are a community. We all have to help each other."
The D.A.R.E. money directed for the school lunches program does not mean other year-round D.A.R.E. events will suffer. In fact, the Police Chief believes the message of this act of kindness will only generate more revenue for the program.
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Home Health Covid-19 : Abia Flags Off Community Surveillance & Testing, Targets 10,000 Tests...
Covid-19 : Abia Flags Off Community Surveillance & Testing, Targets 10,000 Tests in 30 Days
Governor of Abia State, Dr Okezie Ikpeazu, today flagged off the coronavirus (COVID-19) community surveillance and testing program which is aimed at breaking the chain of transmission in the state and stem community spread of the disease.
Speaking during the flag off at the Umuahia South Local Government headquarters, Apumiri Ubakala, on the theme: “Breaking the Chain of Transmission of COVID-19 in Abia State through Community Surveillance and Testing”, the Governor who was represented by the Secretary to the State Government and chairman of inter ministerial committee on COVID-19, Barr Chris Ezem, stated that the exercise which demands maximum support from the citizens should be taken seriously. He noted that Abia State is the first state in the South East to embark on such mass community testing against COVID-19.
The Governor noted that testing positive to the virus is not a death sentence as patients are being nursed back to health at the state’s isolation and treatment facilities while advising that those who test negative should continue to adhere strictly to the COVID-19 protocols already given which include: maintaining social/physical distance of a minimum 2 meters, use of nose mask, regular washing of hands under running water or use of hand sanitizers and avoiding crowded gatherings.
READ: One Dead As Lassa Fever Hits Abia State
The State Chief Executive warned that failure to observe the laid down rules will result to enforcing a total ban on social gatherings in the State.
Earlier in his speech, the State Commissioner for Health, Dr Joe Osuji noted that the virus which broke out on the 31st of December, 2019 in Wuhan, China, has spread across the 36 states of Nigeria and FCT, hence the need for all states to take necessary measures to break the chain of transmission and flatten the curve as quickly as possible.
He commended the Governor for his efforts against the spread of the virus in the State while thanking the Chairman of Abia State COVID-19 task force, Barr. Chris Ezem for his coordinating efforts so far.
He informed that the ministry of health has trained frontline contact tracers and sample collectors in all the LGAs of the state with the aim of carrying out the massive sampling and testing of a target of 10,000 samples across the 17 LGAs in the state, an exercise which took off today the 20th of July, 2020. He further stated that the main aim of the initiative is to break the chain of transmission through the identification of cases, isolation of positive cases, managing the symptomatic back to health, contact tracing and monitoring of all the LGAs.
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In a welcome address, the Transition Committee Chairman Umuahia South LGA, Dr. Max Ndukwe Adindu, noted that the event is an evidence of commitment of the state government to the health care of citizens and residents of the State and commended the Abia State Government for its doggedness in combating the spread of the virus. He urged Abians to cooperate and support the initiative by submitting themselves for the test.
While thanking the Abia State COVID-19 taskforce for their proactive measures, the LGA Chairman noted that the distribution of palliatives by the Abia State Government is still ongoing whereas other states have long stopped delivering to citizens.
In their goodwill messages, the Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Health, Chief Eze Egbulefu, the Executive Secretary, Abia State Primary Health Care Development Agency (ASPHCDA), Dr. Chinagozi Adindu, and the representative of World Health Organizations (WHO) partners, Dr. Linus Okoro, lauded the Governor for always leading in the fight against COVID-19 and for showing a high level of commitment towards the wellbeing of the people of Abia State. He also commended the efforts of the task force team, noting that all measures put in place to curtail the spread of the virus will yield positive results.
READ: Abia Government Donates Medical Equipment to Agboji Health Center, Abiriba
In her vote of thanks, the State Epidermiologist/Incident Manager for COVID-19, Lady Peace Nwogwugwu, thanked the government of Abia State for the massive support to the fight against the virus and urged Abians to volunteer themselves for the mass community testing so as to ascertain their health status.
The event which featured collection of samples for COVID-19 testing from volunteers was well attended by dignitaries in the State such as the Commissioner for Information, Chief John Okiyi Kalu, Abia State Head of Service, Sir Onyi Wamah, Head of Service Umuahia South LGA, former Commissioner Bureau of Training and Establishment, Lady Elizabeth Uhuegbu, Traditional Rulers of communities in Umuahia South LGA in the State amongst others.
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February 11, 2020 Environmental
Understanding the Process of FERC-Approved Third-Party Contractors
by Robyn Susemihl
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Benefits of Horizontal Drilling for Underground Utility Networks
by Kari Giles
As applications for natural gas, liquified natural gas (LNG) and hydroelectric power projects increase, so does the workload for the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC). To meet the demands of increasing workload and the responsibilities outlined in the National Environmental Policy Act of 1969 (NEPA), FERC is extending its team — Office of Energy Projects staff — by involving qualified third-party contractors.
Approved by FERC, these independent contractors typically are brought in to help with large facility and pipeline projects requiring either an environmental assessment (EA) or an environmental impact statement (EIS). The role of a third-party contractor is to assist staff in the development of a sound and legally defensible NEPA document. Staff and third-party contractors provide a thorough review of the applicant’s environmental resource reports (ERRs) and subsequent studies, organize requests for additional environmental information (data request), maintain the stakeholder mailing lists, and ultimately prepare the NEPA document required for certificate or license approval.
To set FERC’s review process in motion, an applicant must either request to participate in FERC’s prefiling process or submit a Certificate of Public Convenience and Necessity application, which requires the development of 12 ERRs (13 if it’s an LNG project). ERR1 presents a detailed project description, purpose and need, and alternatives analysis. The other ERRs provide a clear statement or introduction of each specific environmental resource, possible project-related impacts, proposed mitigation, background information and more.
In the case of larger pipeline or facility projects, FERC recommends participation in its pre-filing process, which allows the applicant to informally work with staff, the third-party contractor (if required), and any cooperating agencies in the development and review of draft ERRs. The pre-filing process also provides opportunities for public outreach and scoping ahead of the formal application submittal, ultimately resulting in a more complete and well-researched application, which reduces the need for extensive data requests and potential schedule delays.
Once an application has been received or a project is accepted into pre-filing, FERC’s third-party contractor is engaged to begin a months-long environmental review process that ends with the issuance of the draft EIS (DEIS) and eventually a final EIS (FEIS).
Developing the NEPA Document
As an extension of FERC staff, the third-party contractor starts by reviewing the ERRs and conducting research in preparation of drafting the NEPA document, an EA or EIS. Most project proponents anticipate the need for an EIS, however, and bypass the development of an EA. This document further outlines the purpose of the project and lists potential environmental impacts of the proposed plan as well as staff’s recommendations to mitigate said impacts.
Mandated by federal law, an EIS is an all-inclusive government document that covers, in detail, reasonable alternatives, the affected environment and environmental consequences of the proposed action. To comply with rigorous regulatory requirements that protect the quality of the human environment, the third-party contractor prepares an EIS in accordance with multiple laws and acts that fall under NEPA, including:
Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act
Executive Order 12898, Federal Action to Address Environmental Justice in Minority Populations and Low-Income Populations
Magnuson-Stevens Fishery Conservation & Management Act
Migratory Bird Treaty Act
National Historic Preservation Act
Rivers and Harbors Act
A well-prepared EIS — which, upon final submission, could be hundreds of pages long — carries significant weight in the commissioners’ review and authorization of a project.
Comprehensive Third-Party Support
More than just reading and critiquing documentation submitted by the applicant, a third-party contractor is responsible for connecting with and involving other regulatory agencies as well as the public. State and federal agencies typically are invited to participate as a cooperating agency in the development of an EA or EIS. The cooperating agencies provide comments and suggestions related to specific environmental concerns during the development of the EIS. Cooperating agencies commonly include:
State historic preservation offices
State wildlife protection agencies
State water quality agencies
U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service
During the EIS development, staff and the third-party contractor typically hold one or more public scoping meetings to solicit stakeholder comments that will aid in drafting the EIS. These meetings allow the public to communicate directly with a FERC representative and openly discuss issues that might need to be considered in the environmental document. In addition to these meetings, the public scoping period offers all stakeholders — including landowners, nongovernmental organizations, agencies, officials and developers — the opportunity to comment or express concerns they would like to see addressed in the EIS.
Behind the scenes, the third-party contractor is working diligently on the first pass of the EIS, referred to as the preliminary administrative draft EIS (PADEIS), which is passed on to FERC’s staff for review and comment. Once the third-party contractor has revised the PADEIS, it is issued to all cooperating agencies as the administrative draft EIS (ADEIS), with the request for additional feedback. The third-party contractor continues refining and editing the environmental document as each agency submits comments. The finished product, ready for public review, is the DEIS.
A public comment period of 30-45 days follows the issuance of a DEIS. During that time, one or more public comment sessions are held to obtain feedback from stakeholders regarding the studies, analysis and results discussed in the report. FERC also can decide to offer electronic scoping — comments that can be submitted electronically or by mail — to encourage participation and feedback. As a result of these public comment efforts, a third-party contractor will receive questions and comments — sometimes in the hundreds — and all must be addressed and documented in the FEIS.
The FEIS will include, as an appendix, all letters and comments submitted by the public and the detailed response to each. If applicable, additional studies, details or modifications also are incorporated into the body of the FEIS. Occasionally, the applicant will submit a supplemental filing to the FERC docket, highlighting changes in the project design, workspace or impacts. These project revisions must be incorporated into the FEIS before its release. In the event these modifications are substantial, staff might reopen the public scoping window to give newly affected landowners an opportunity to participate in the FERC process.
There’s a lot that goes into FERC’s stringent environmental review and preparation process — and for good reason. But it takes teamwork to thoroughly and successfully review an applicant’s documents, prepare assessments and statements, coordinate with cooperating agencies, and engage the public. Acting on FERC’s behalf, third-party contractors are preparing solid environmental statements and delivering seamless preparation and review processes. That’s precisely why they’re FERC-approved.
From preparing an EIS to providing environmental compliance monitoring during construction and restoration, see how a 170-mile-long greenfield pipeline project in West Virginia is benefiting from the help of a third-party contractor.
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Robyn Susemihl, a project manager at Burns & McDonnell who specializes in FERC-regulated projects, is responsible for the assessment and analysis of environmental impacts under NEPA guidelines on oil and gas industry projects. Robyn served as the third-party consultant to FERC during the development of the Mountaineer XPress EIS.
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Iron Maiden’s Adrian Smith and Ex-SikTh frontman Mikee Goodman Tear It Up In Primal Rock Rebellion
By Pauline France
Horns up, metal fans. Iron Maiden axeman Adrian Smith teamed up with former SikTh frontman Mikee Goodman for a new project titled Primal Rock Rebellion.
The duo’s as-yet-untitled album, due Feb. 27 through Spinefarm Records, blends Goodman’s unique vocal tones and Adrian’s unmistakeable guitar melodies.
“It was interesting doing this album with Mikee not least because we have quite different influences,” said Smith in a recent statement. “I was really pleased with the way it turned out. It has a really fresh feel to it.”
Goodman is just as stoked to be part of the collaboration.
“This album takes you on a really deep and colourful journey, lyrically and musically,” commented Goodman. “Adrian and I were both very open to experimenting with each others’ musical styles and influences, which we feel created something new and exciting.”
Other musicians who contributed to the album include Abi Fry of Bat for Lashes, original SikTh member Dan “Lord” Foord on drums, among others.
Listen to Primal Rock Rebellion’s “I See Lights” below, and visit their website here for more info.
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Chris Broderick and Alex Skolnick’s Winter Guitar Retreat ‘Over The Top’
Anthrax Release Compilation Album, Celebrate “Best Year Ever”
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Maimed Dog Travels 7,000 Miles To Find Love And Safety With A Texas Foster Family
It's hard to imagine someone punishing a dog for barking by cutting off its nose, but that's what happened to Anubis, a handsome black and brown Egyptian Baladi stray.
With no muzzle, the courageous street dog was forced to live underneath cars and eat scraps of food as best he could. Maimed for life by an act of unspeakable cruelty, he was saved from the streets by a Cairo, Egypt animal rescue organization. When SNARR (Special Needs Animal Rescue and Rehabilitation) found out about his plight, Anubis started his amazing journey to a happy home in the United States. Because his injuries were so severe, Anubis struggled to get nourishment. He had to lie on the ground and shovel food into his mouth. The mutilation and survival struggle caused him to lose teeth, and his remaining teeth were worn down to mere nubs. If that's not bad enough, his tongue was constantly exposed to the elements.
Fortunately, the Animal Protection Foundation discovered him in time and contacted SNARR. The American rescue organization shared his story on social media, and many people wanted to help give the maimed dog a fresh start.
SNARR was seeking a good foster home for Anubis, and an El Paso, Texa,s family volunteered to be his foster family. Katiria Declet and Wes Reed, a married couple, immediately fell in love with the pooch after learning about him and confess to having a “soft spot” for dogs with disabilities. SNARR handled all of the arrangements to bring Anubis from Cairo to El Paso. The 7,000 mile journey involved volunteers assisting with transportation during the 25-leg trip, and included vet care stops in New York and Maryland. Anubis has become a canine celebrity with his own Facebook page. Human fans can follow along as he adjusts to his new life with his foster family in Texas. Periodic updates posted by the family reveal how well he's doing. Declet and her family have first dibs on adopting this sweet dog, and it's very likely he's already found his forever home.
To warm your heart, read more inspiring animal rescue stories.
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Newsletter 13 Sept 2020
Written by Briefings For Britain
This week the government worried about a second wave of Covid-19, while the media continued to suffer a second wave of a rather different disease: No Deal phobia. As ever, this has for the most part involved a lot of fuss about not very much.
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That said, the government has not helped itself with the rather brazen admission of plans to break international law in a ‘specific and limited way’ this week. This was not delivered with any explanation and not by the Attorney General. As everyone everywhere has pointed out, this is a strange defence, begging the question of why we can’t choose to break the law in a ‘specific and limited way’ by meeting as a group of seven at Aunt Mildred’s house next Sunday.
The controversial bill in question is the Internal Market Bill, designed to establish a post-Brexit basis for trade within the UK. Tacked onto this was the offending section seeking to escape from three pretty objectionable aspects of Withdrawal Agreement’s Irish Protocol. These included the pointless stipulation that Northern Ireland businesses fill in customs declarations for everything they sell to GB. Another is the Protocol’s implication that government assistance to businesses in GB be vetted by Brussels in case goods from assisted firms leak into the EU via NI. Finally, the UK wants the final say on which goods exported from GB to NI are at risk of crossing the unmanned Irish land border.
Much, or at least some, of this might have been achievable by further negotiation but as the clock-watching Mr Barnier might say ‘ze clock is ticking’, and no such agreement had been reached. The EU should have been sensitive to the over-reach in the Withdrawal Agreement, but sensitivity has not been its strong point to say the least. The Internal Market Bill has allowed the EU to take the high moral ground, backed not only of course by what Robert Tombs calls the ‘Remainer Undead’ but also by some high Tories with high principles. All of these objectors address the principle of adherence to law. None address the substance of the issues.
So why has the government opened up this can of worms? Presumably, it wants to make a dramatic stand, showing off its resistance to EU dictates. Perhaps the government thinks (with some justification) that its avowed intention to ignore international law will annoy all the right people. Perhaps it is part of a strategy to scare to EU into getting serious about dealing with ambiguities in the WA.
Brussels has been shown what the precipice looks like, and it is significant that the EU has not pulled out of the trade talks. What the UK Government can do now is to get on with the job for a few last weeks. Brussels needs to agree a simple trade agreement and to interpret the Protocol in ways tolerable to a sovereign nation while the UK can row back on putting this into law.
The signing of a trade deal with Japan this week, followed soon we hope by other deals, shows Britain settling into a new post-Brexit world. This will help the EU to see that the UK might well settle for no deal and for unilateral changes to the Protocol. Better for future harmony that all sides work quietly towards a sensible outcome.
On the website this week
The Treasury’s tax rise plans make no sense by Harry Western
Economist Harry Western argues that the UK is not ‘on the edge’: it would take a dramatic deterioration of key variables like growth and interest rates to put the UK at risk of some kind of financial crisis. Proposals to raise taxes now verge on lunacy.
“What are we to make of the Treasury’s attempt to bring in big tax rises? We can dispense quickly with the notion that their reasoning is based on sound economics”
Barnier’s fishy story on UK sovereignty, By Anna Bailey
Last week, Michel Barnier stated that while the UK would regain full sovereignty over its waters post-Brexit, the fish in those waters were ‘another story’. Unfortunately for Barnier, international law proves him completely wrong on this point.
“One can only surmise that Barnier’s remark was a theatrical but throwaway comment made in frustration at said international law not being on his side”
Distorted Irish economy means high payments to the EU, by Graham Gudgin
Ireland is the world’s largest tax haven, causing huge distortions to Irish national economic accounts. By greatly exaggerating the size of the Irish economy this leads to Ireland paying much larger contributions to the EU budget than is warranted by an economy of its size. Irish per capita contributions to the EU’s Coronavirus Recovery Fund are the highest of any member state other than fellow tax-haven Luxemburg. These payments may start to reverse Ireland’s love affair with the EU.
“The tide of [Irish] gratitude for EU largesse must now begin to flow the other way”
Criticism of the government’s Internal Market Bill has been loud and vocal this
week. Aside from feigned moral outrage over the supposed deception entailed by
protecting the integrity of the Union, several more serious potential objections have
been levelled at the bill. Firstly, that it might lead to the collapse of negotiations with
the EU over a future trade deal. Secondly, that it will lead to a Britain receiving a
reputation as a ‘Perfidious Albion’ and thus make future agreements with other
partners harder. Thirdly, it will jeopardise the Good Friday Agreement, threatening
local stability and alienating the powerful Irish lobby in the US.
As regards the talks, the EU has certainly threatened this prospect, but the fact is that
it is unlikely to abandon negotiations while it still wants a deal, and while it realises
that shutting down negotiations might simply precipitate the collapse of the rest of
the Withdrawal Agreement altogether. Even if talks do cease, as we’ve outlined
before an Australia-style relationship in the event of a WTO-Brexit is a perfectly
reasonable outcome. To the second, this furore hasn’t stopped the government from
signing its deal with Japan, or making good progress with joining the TPP. As our
allies realise, there is a world of difference between the average trade agreement
between sovereign nations covering the removal of tariffs and accreditation of
services, and a thrown-together treaty replete with ambiguities of interpretation
which encroaches on core areas of national sovereignty – what the Withdrawal
Agreement in its unmodified form represents.
To the third, the onus is on the EU to respond with border checks in the Republic of
Ireland if it feels that the UK’s measures aren’t protecting the single market. Indeed,
our obligations under the Good Friday Agreement are, as outlined by Ian Duncan
Smith in the FT, to preserve the status of Northern Ireland as open to the rest of the
UK as well as the Republic of Ireland. A clear majority of the province’s external
trade goes to the rest of the UK – and this needs to be protected if we are to meet our
Good Friday obligations. As we detailed in an earlier blog post, Britain needs to ‘box
clever’ rather than abandon the agreement entirely – and this legislation is part of
that process. When push comes to shove it will not be Britain that breaches Good
Friday by imposing a hard border. (There is also a certain irony that voices which
previously decried a trade deal with the US as undermining UK standards now aver
America’s unwillingness to do a deal as a reason to respect the WA.) Moreover, the
UK isn’t planning to abandon checks and notifications entirely. The Internal Market
Bill merely arrogates discretion to ministers over how far customs declarations and
state aid notices will be implemented, which doesn’t preclude the possibility of
coming to a productive understanding with the EU over these issues – without,
however, surrendering to Brussels the final say.
Key Points is compiled by a Cambridge PhD student.
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Discussion also continues over on Facebook.
There is much about Brexit still to be decided. Our MPs listen to their constituents. Do continue to send them links to our articles, especially on matters relevant to your constituency – for example, in rural areas, articles on the threat to British agriculture. Alternatively, make an appointment to speak to them at their next surgery. Let them know what you want post-Brexit Britain to look like.
As Boris Johnson said in in his post-election address, it is also time for unity and reconciliation. Keep reading our posts and share links to our quality content to help others understand how leaving the EU will be good for the UK economy and for our own democratic governance. We aim to educate our critics to think differently and more positively about the long-term impact of Brexit.
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Dr Graham Gudgin
Economist, Centre for Business Research, Judge Business School University of Cambridge
Professor Robert Tombs
Emeritus Professor of French History, University of Cambridge
Newsletter 21 September 2020
Who are the Remainers? By Robert Tombs
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Legitimate questions on recreational pot?
Massachusetts voters voted in 2016 to allow the growing and sale of marijuana for recreational purposes, and last week the state's Cannabis Control Commission issued its first permit for a retail outlet. � The doors are not yet open because the … Continue reading →
Massachusetts voters voted in 2016 to allow the growing and sale of marijuana for recreational purposes, and last week the state's Cannabis Control Commission issued its first permit for a retail outlet. � The doors are not yet open because the dispensary still faces another level of inspections and background checks. � Statewide implementation was initially delayed so the legislature could fine-tune the law. � And many local communities, even those whose voters approved the referendum, have put moratoria on implementation. (Some 200 communities have issued outright bans.) Certainly, it's better to do it right than rush it a few months and make mistakes. But NIMBY cities and towns who voted for the referendum yet bar or repeatedly delay retail sales should not be entitled to share in the state's marijuana tax revenues.
The argument for legalizing pot was to be able to regulate for quality, eliminate the black market, and reap all sorts of tax revenues for both the state and local communities. � That part makes sense, but it has to be done the right way. It's not just a matter of providing state approval of purveyors and setting up shop. � Labs must be licensed to test the product for purity and potency. No testing labs have yet been approved. � Growing fields require separate licenses, the first of which got a provisional license just last week. � Attorney General Maura Healey, an opponent of the referendum, last month approved further local extensions until June 2019.
She's taking a lot of flack for it, and certainly continued extensions shouldn't become a de facto ban. While you could argue this extension is not dramatically unreasonable, it still takes implementation three years away from the passage of the referendum. Cannabis Control Commission chair Steve Hoffman, who opposed the referendum but whose professionalism as chairman seems beyond question, reportedly said he doesn't “see the logic” in the delay until June 2019. But there are legitimate considerations to be addressed now.
The major challenge for cities and towns is reshaping their zoning regulations. If they approve retail sales, what should be the allowable limit on stores in a particular community? How far away must a retail outlet be from school zones and residential neighborhoods? � from day care centers and parks? Would they have to allow pot cafes? What is the projected impact on neighborhood traffic?
There are other unanswered questions, from reliably determining when a driver is marijuana-impaired to defining rights of employers doing drug testing. � Is it legal to fire someone who tests positive for a legal substance and whose on-the-job performance isn't compromised?
What is also unclear is what the impact will be on medical marijuana dispensaries if they expand into recreational products. � Their current standards for patient privacy and counseling as well as security and cleanliness shouldn't be sacrificed in expanding their offerings.
We're in uncharted territory here, and, to mix a metaphor, � the genie should come out of the bottle only when all i's have been dotted and t's crossed.
I �welcome your comments in the section below. To be alerted when a new blog is posted, click on 'Follow' in the lower right portion of your screen.
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KEITH SONNIER with Michael Straus
ALI BANISADR with Phong Bui
PETAH COYNE with Jonathan Goodman
BARBARA DAWSON & SEAN RAINBIRD with David Carrier & Joachim Pissarro
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PETER HALLEY with Tom McGlynn
BENJAMIN PRITCHARD with Joseph Masheck
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By Rehan Ansari
Endless Enigma: Eight Centuries of Fantastic Art
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By Lilly Wei
Ivy Haldeman: The Interesting Type
By Alex A. Jones
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By Joachim Pissarro
Judith Murray: Tempest
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David Row: Counter Clockwise
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Abby Leigh: Sledgehammer Paintings
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Eckhaus Latta: Possessed
By John Cappetta
Water Lilies: American Abstract Painting and the Last Monet
Dorian Gaudin: The Coffee Cup Spring
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Artist Xenobia Bailey, and visitors in the main room, same as living room, of the Historic Hunterfly Road House's 1860s at Weeksville Heritage Center, 2014. Image courtesy Weeksville Heritage Center.
Rehan Ansari sat down with Rob Fields, Executive Director, and Eboni Banks, Development Director (TBC) of Weeksville Heritage Center in Brooklyn to discuss Weeksville’s legacy as an intentional community, the community surrounding this neighborhood nonprofit, social justice, and their forthcoming program of exhibitions.
Rehan Ansari (Rail): I came a little earlier and took a tour of the Hunterfly houses and then I realized—with all this talk these days about sanctuary spaces--this was the original sanctuary space!
Rob Fields: Yes, during the draft riots… And even before that, because Weeksville was far. Prior to 1888, before the Brooklyn Bridge got built, you really had to make an effort to come to Brooklyn and chase black folk, because you had to get a boat, cross the river and once you got here—particularly during those early days of Weeksville's founding—it was still mostly farmland. If you look at the old maps you see that this place was just completely undeveloped. The grid system had not yet come into this part of New York City. The downtown area by the docks was kind of built up but out here was just nature and farms. And so it really made sense as a place for once formerly enslaved African Americans to come and be part of this burgeoning free intentional community. Weeksville was kind of on its own for many years. People from here would venture downtown to go to other shops and conduct business and stuff like that. But once you got to Weeksville, because it was fairly self-contained, it was just sanctuary. People knew who you were, and you did business, and traded, and whatnot amongst the neighbors in the community.
And the community even at that time was not 100 percent black. There were still some European immigrants who were also out here farming. But it was apparently a nice little community and yes it was in fact a refuge.
Rail: The other fact that I picked up on was that you could vote as a freed black man if you purchase some land.
Fields: You had the right to vote if you owned $250 worth of land. Of course, the requirement for white men was a lot lower, it was like $150 of land.
Rail: And no votes for women no matter what.
Eboni Banks: No. They weren't that progressive. With that, many residents of Weeksville had the right to vote decades before emancipation, and certainly a hundred years before the voting rights act. So that was kind of cool.
Rail: I just wanted to bring this up at the beginning of the interview.
Banks: It is good you brought this up because it demonstrates how progressive the African American community here was. When you think about progressive communities today, and people that want to create utopias, well this is essentially what Weeksville was. This was a refuge but not unengaged with the larger goings on. Weeksville residents were involved in all the major efforts towards equality, equity, and social justice such as the black suffrage movement and women's rights, the black convention movement. So even though this was a haven they weren't disconnected from the world.
Rail: There were two sisters who were the daughters of a farmer here who were leaders in the community. Can you tell us about them?
Banks: It was the Smiths: Sarah Garnett Smith and Susan Smith (Dr. Susan McKinney-Steward). And Dr. McKinney-Steward was the first African American doctor in New York State and the third in the country.
Rail: Simone Leigh’s project was installed in what used to be Dr. McKinney-Steward’s office near here?
Fields: That was during the Funk God Jazz Medicine exhibition in 2014. Simone has always had this interest in health and wellness.
Outside of the Historic Hunterfly Road House's 1860s at Weeksville Heritage Center, 2014. Image courtesy Weeksville Heritage Center.
Rail: So besides cultural preservation and conservation what is your current thinking about arts programming at Weeksville?
Fields: The conservation is an ongoing project. It is about retaining the story of historic Weeksville: when, who, where—things like that—and what were the boundaries of what this community was. And the details around its rediscovery in 1968: the dig, the saving of the houses from potential demolishment and the involvement of the community in these efforts.
But it's also about retaining the story so that we can always be finding new ways to make that relevant to today. At the end of the day, you want to preserve that history and give people an opportunity to step back into time and say, well here's what black people were doing at particular points in time—1860, 1900, 1930—that is the history around the houses, but at the same time you want to figure out what are the stories and examples that you can take inspiration from to help people cope with the challenges of today. A lot of our programming, literary offerings to film, is related to our history.
Bedroom #2, of the Historic Hunterfly Road House's 1860s at Weeksville Heritage Center, 2014. Image courtesy Weeksville Heritage Center.
Banks: The history of the houses gives us innovative ways to connect people to U.S. history, like with the reinterpretation of the 1960s house by local artists.
Fields: Doing these events on this historical site gives them a kind of credibility and imprimatur of, oh wow, this is not just an event, but this is an event connected somehow to a story of African American history that is worth telling and retelling in new and fresh ways. So that's how we seek to preserve the history and also make it come alive.
Rail: So just to lay out that there's an architectural conservation or preservation project that's been underway—
Fields: Correct. And is ongoing. And is largely about the three historic houses. We are an arts and cultural center built on a historic site. We're happy to say that the houses are where they originally were. They were not moved. They are the original structures.
Rail: And whose houses were they?
Fields: The 1968 house was the house of the Williams family. The 1900s house was the house of the Johnson family. And then I'm not sure who lived in the 1860s, 1870s house. But we do have some records for those.
Rail: The land was originally acquired in 1838?
Fields: We have a later deed between James Weeks and Mary Lefferts. So the Lefferts family, a land owning Dutch family in New York City, ran into a financial panic and needed to be liquid. So they were like, oh you wanna buy land?
Rail: So that was an opportunity for the freedmen?
Fields: Preparation met opportunity.
Rail: How did the name Hunterfly Road Houses come about?
Fields: Hunterfly Road was a long stretch of road that I like to tell people was never quite as broad as Broadway but it did run to the east to Jamaica Bay, and to the west to the East River that is in front of the houses, here is the last remaining stretch of that.
The four houses were the last Hunterfly Road Houses. The fourth house burnt down in a fire. It was rebuilt in the '80s. But where the last three houses sit, that is the last remaining patch of Hunterfly Road.
Rail: So the houses are going be used as an artist residency?
Fields: One of the houses. This gets back to how do you make this history relevant for new audiences and keep it fresh. What is going to get somebody to come back after they have done the tour and said, wow, this is amazing
Based on the work that happened with Xenobia Bailey during the Funk God Jazz Medicine exhibit I got the idea for an artist residency program in one of the historic houses. Ultimately, we want to have two artist residencies a year. There will be an opening, and guided tours. At the heart of all this will be artists interpreting the history of these houses. The first will be Mendi and Keith Obadike.
Rail: And how do you go about identifying artists?
Fields: This is such an exciting moment in black visual art. There are a lot of people to choose from. And not just visual artists! Last night we had Dominique Morriseau, the playwright, in conversation with Keith Atkins from The New Black Fest. And later this month her newest play is opening at Signature Theater in Manhattan. This is a new play that's part of her Detroit cycle. It's a three play cycle. She has been at Lincoln Center with some of her plays, and was a Sundance awardee. She talked for two hours about her process, and what it was like in the writing room as executive story editor of Shameless on Showtime.
Rail: What kind of response did you get from the audience?
Main room, same as living room, of the Historic Hunterfly Road House's 1860s at Weeksville Heritage Center, 2014. Image courtesy Weeksville Heritage Center.
Fields: The responses were, oh my God, I didn't know about Weeksville, I never knew about this place. Or I live four blocks away, I didn't know what happened in this building, but I'm coming back. Another is I didn't know Weeksville did this kind of programming, which is exciting to hear. Central Brooklyn does not have a black cultural center or a cultural space that necessarily centers on black creativity, black history. We realize we have an opportunity as we move towards our next fifty years to really set this up as a center for conversation, convening, creativity, and inspiration. To focus on a broader audience, a national audience. This history is not just history that black people should know or black people in Brooklyn should know. So with the artist in residence program we also want to look towards artists, like the Mickalene Thomases and the Mark Bradfords.
Studio Museum in Harlem is going dark for three years. So, well we are here!
Rail: Could you say something about your goals around education programming?
Fields: Education programming is critical because that provides the context for what we are presenting. In Pursuit of Freedom Now is a traveling exhibit that's designed to go around to schools to talk about the history of Weeksville and the examples of those African Americans who lived in that community. This programming also corrects some misperceptions out there about Weeksville’s history. For example, the founders were not former slaves.
Rail: Well, we're living in a time of fake news. You can make anything up. So I want to just ask, was the Brooklyn Historical Society involved with In Pursuit of Freedom Now?
Fields: Yes. So that's part of In Pursuit of Freedom Now. There will be a permanent exhibition in one of the houses starting this summer. It will be a self-guided tour. There are two display cases that are going to focus on the dig, the rediscovery in 1968. And we have to a narrative around that.
Rail: The 1968 excavation was done by a Pratt professor?
Fields: Yes. James Hurley. He had heard about Weeksville and had done some research. But it was on a walking tour of Brooklyn that he was leading for Pratt, that he was like, wow, what are these houses? And so he did some more research and found out that these are the historic Hunterfly Road Houses and the last remnants of Hunterfly Road. And so it was him and Joseph Haines, a friend of his who was a pilot, a black pilot, who went up in a plane and surveyed the area from the air using old maps. And they determined this is actually Hunterfly Road. Thus began the excavation and the attempt to save the houses. Except for the Williams house the houses were not being used. And the city wanted to build a parking lot! The community came together to save these houses. The excavation found civil war cannon balls and the photo of the Weeksville Lady, which is just this photo of this woman who's dressed to the nines. We have no idea who she is. But she's just amazing. So we just call her the Weeksville Lady.
Fields: If I may I just wanna go back to the education topic a little bit. I think for an organization like ours, education is as important as the art because so many of our young black children don't know their history, and don't feel proud. So we feel it's our responsibility to teach. That's our largest audience, K through 12. We get more people that come here on school tours than anybody else. We do at least five a week. The houses only hold a certain number of people, we would be able to do more, but the houses can't have twenty people in there at a time.
Rail: And how do you target the schools?
Fields: They find us. We have a relationship with local schools.
Rail: Do the artists in residence have access to archives here?
Fields: Yes. For example, Mendi and Keith Obadike want to learn as much as they can about the history and see the archives. So we're setting them up with access to the site, to the physical site, access to our collections team, and the archives.
Rail: There has been a recent renovation here?
Banks: The capital project finished in 2015. This building we are in. Running programs is new for Weeksville. Most cultural organizations have been doing it for 20 years but Weeksville has only had this building since 2014 and started programming in 2015. Prior to this building there were just the houses and you came for just the tour. But now we have this space to activate all these activities that Fields is referencing so that we can get people in here into the houses.
Rail: And what has been added? What are the amenities that didn't exist before?
Banks: We didn't have a 700 square foot art gallery. We did not have a multipurpose space that'll seat 200 people and can be used as a theatre with a dressing room at the back. We didn't have two dedicated classrooms with multimedia capability and a resource center and a café.
Fields: But it's about having budgets and resources in terms of people to manage all this. And also for me knowing that I shouldn't get too far ahead of the staff in terms of all the things I would like to do. And we're progressing. This year we have 25 more programs than we did last year.
Fields: The houses are our greatest expense. It is expensive to have staff that is able to understand how to maintain and manage those houses and all the artifacts.
Rail: Please talk about how you commissioned the Chakaia Booker sculpture in the garden.
Banks: It was a Percent for Art project, as part of the expansion. Most people don't know it's a vagina. So that's always fun to share. [laughs]
Rail: And those photographs by Claiborne Barron in the transparent walkway are just from a project from a few years ago? I understand they were supposed to be inlaid under glass in the floor?
Banks: We still want to do that, but we ran out of money. But we could do it outside. And it would be beautiful to see as you're walking to the houses to see that. Barron is into it.
Rail: Who are they portraits of?
Banks: It is this black goddess series. People he knows. His ex-wife and his best friends. [laughs]
Rail: Can you tell us about your current exhibitions and special forthcoming ones?
Fields: We will have our artists in residence. In June we got funding for a gallery exhibit of African art by Eric Edwards who has this amazing art collection. He lives in Bed-Stuy. Basically he's got a duplex apartment in Fort Green and it's just filled to the brim with African art from all over the continent. And it's insured. One of his pieces is in the Met. It's great. But the cool thing about that is he also has a curriculum that goes with it. So he wants to be able to offer that as well.
Rail: How did you run into him?
Fields: A board member introduced us.
Banks: And one thing we're going to be doing as part of our expansion of the arts is having curators at Weeksville. You asked earlier about how we select artists. Right now it's the artists that we know. But moving forward Fields will be working with a team of curators that will work quarterly at Weeksville.
Fields: It also will help us think through how we fund these initiatives and strategize about how the artist in residence program, the houses, and the gallery, can all be part of an offering. We don't ever want the gallery to be empty. There are Weeksville weekends and Weeksville Wednesdays.
Rail: There is also this amazing green space outside!
Banks: This is THE green space of Central Brooklyn.
Rail: What are your hours now?
Banks: We're Tuesday through Friday, 9 to 6. On Wednesday we stay open till 9 or 10pm. We do all of our evening programs that will run late on Wednesdays. The Dominique Morriseau thing that we did last night, that was grant funded, so we stayed open late. And then we are open on the second Saturday of every month for Weeksville Weekends. All day, 10 to 6.
Rail: What is your audience like?
Fields: Our audience is diverse. We have public housing residents across the street, we have black people that want know their culture, and people that are interested in black culture. We are still the best kept secret in Brooklyn. So it's interesting that we keep getting these various audiences and people are always like, oh my God, I didn't know about this. Oh my God, I live four blocks from here and didn't know about this place.
Rail: Two years ago we came to do an in depth interview with Tia, the previous director. And she was talking about how to get into the neighborhoods. So I just wanted to know what happened?
Fields: We're doing more with that, in terms of using signage outside. We have a display case on Bergen. We've got the banners and advertising. We're developing a relationship with the tenants' association over at Kingsborough. And we have flyers and stuff in Bed-Stuy, and Clinton Hill.
Rail: What do you think the barriers are? Or what's the biggest challenge?
Fields: There are a couple things. I do think that psychologically as beautiful as a building it is, it's a little forbidding if you don't know what it is. And also historically if African Americans don't already have a relationship with cultural institutions they wonder if the place is really for them. Secondly, and I understand from talking to Pam Green, who was the executive director before Tia, this has been a problem that's gone back even to Joan Maynard days, that the residents of Kingsborough have always felt like, well we don't really know what's going on over there. It's not for us. Even though historically it was residents of Kingsborough who helped save this place.
Rail: And Kingsborough refers to the public housing nearby?
Bedroom #2 of the Historic Hunterfly Road House's 1860s at Weeksville Heritage Center, 2014. Image courtesy Weeksville Heritage Center.
Fields: Yeah. That’s right . A few months ago I went to a tenants' association meeting, all excited to talk about Weeksville, and just make it clear that everyone in Kingsborough is welcome here, in fact if you can show that your zip code is 11213 or 11233, which is all this area, you can come take a tour during the day for free. You can come to the 3:00 tour and not have to pay anything. What was so stunning to me was just the level of kind of problems they're dealing with as residents of New York City public housing. Heat not working, heat working too well, trash pickup, non-responsive management to fix things, leaks, not feeling safe because the cops don't come up and patrol their buildings. By the time it was my turn to talk I felt really stupid talking about arts and culture.
Banks: And when he says heat not working, he means like the heat is on 105 in the summer all the time. And they can't turn it down. And a lot these people work multiple jobs.
Fields: When we did go over there in the fall, we took Barron Claiborne over to do family individual portraits, 175 people showed up. And they got their pictures taken. We had food out there. We had activities for the kids. Folks were just so happy to have their family photos taken. And we were like just come back to Weeksville you can pick up your photo. And many of them did. We have to think of more things we can do over there to build that relationship. We have to take the mountain to Mohammed.
Rail (Rehan): I was just thinking because of how you are talking of the needs of the community: It just so happened that a couple of weekends ago I got arrested biking in Prospect Hours after hours. They just picked me up, I was wearing a hoodie and they were visibly taken aback when they saw me in the light at the station so draw your own conclusions. Because it was a weekend I spent a night and a day in Central Booking. There were an extraordinary number of men being brought in arrested from Kingsborough. And I just thought about Weeksville as a space that's right here, and clearly in terms of things like what would these young men need from a space like this? A legal aid clinic? A place to talk? In the holding cell the young men were talking a lot about fear, whether to run, or to talk to an officer when an officer stops them. Clearly they're young men who need to be talked with. But where would that be? And I did think about Weeksville.
Fields: Yeah, where would that be and who would lead that. When I got here I was just like, wow, there's a lot to be done. There's the fact that there's only bodegas down Buffalo Avenue. And how do we get more stores so that people aren't just doing their grocery shopping in a bodega.
Rail: But you have a garden also, don't you?
Fields: We haven't really done a lot with that garden. In May we will do Ballast Flora. It's with Vera List. And it's between us, Pioneer Works, and Highline, an environmental program about the migration of seeds, and migration of people. Going back to Kingsborough the tenants' association president asked us to help him figure out how to get young men OSHA cards, the cards that basically allow them to work in construction. And once they get those OSHA cards they are positioned to get into unions. So I reached out to Red Star Restoration. But if I think about what the mandate here is in terms of institution building, there has be some focus. And we have a small staff.
Rail: The answer could be a community organizer. Community organizing. When Tom Finkelpearl was at The Queens Museum, he was looking for an art therapist at one point. A community organizer responded. And he thought, oh, community organizer might be what we need to understand the community better.
Fields: That's exactly what Weeksville needs, a community outreach person!
Rail: And it was a way for them to look at community development through beautification of public spaces, health awareness, and art. The art piece was public art offsite. And that's happened—I mean when Weeksville reopened with the bigger space it meant people understanding the neighborhood better, or moving through it, experiencing it.
Fields: Exactly, I'm excited about what we're doing. I'm excited about the potential we have to do some really good work all around. I'm excited about that Weeksville will no longer be Brooklyn's best kept secret. There is a wellspring of support that we just have to get smarter in tapping because people want to see Weeksville succeed and thrive. And it goes back fifty years to Joan Maynard. Folks that are in their sixties and seventies and eighties around here knew Joan. I met a guy here last night who used to be on the board and he said he is just so thrilled a what he is seeing happening here. eople remember, people know from whence Weeksville came and we want to be able to tap that love and support to help us as we're going forward.
Banks: And because Weeksville's had so many leaders in a short period of time, everybody has different visions. So we really have to support Fields through what his vision is and it has to be consistent. So we can get to the point where there's a community outreach person that can go over to Kingsborough because that's something that Fields’s thinking about. That might not be something that the other two EDs were thinking about. So we have to really be supportive of the new leadership. What's funny about Kingsborough is that when I go over there they know the houses. They can tell me some of the history. It makes sense too because they've been living there for generations many of them. So they know. They just don't come in the door. It's the weirdest thing. [Laughs]
Fields: They don't feel like it's for them. We've got to engage them more. And just because we're black and they're black doesn’t work. They don't see us in the way they see themselves, even though we are black people and just coming and going from here every day all day. They still don't feel comfortable enough with us.
Banks: But we did have them come back for the picture pickup. There were some events going on, there was food. A lot of folks that I remember from the photo shoot, they hung out and everything. They brought their kids, and they listened to the jazz playing.
* Forecasting Art and Social Justice is an interview series sponsored by The Shelley & Donald Rubin Foundation to feature institutions and individuals whose work centers on art and social justice. Sara Reisman and George Bolster, from The Shelley & Donald Rubin Foundation, collaborated with Rehan Ansari on this interview.
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“Assange Is Not A Journalist!” Yes He Is, Idiot.
As we discussed yesterday, whenever Assange is in the news and people are defending him you always see a bunch of hyper-emotional empire loyalists running around online trying to manage the narrative about him. One of the most common talking points which comes up is that Assange is “not a journalist”.
The reason this talking point comes up, of course, is because the WikiLeaks founder is besieged by powerful forces who are attempting to imprison him for publishing inconvenient facts about them, and his defenders often voice their concerns about what this means for the future of press freedoms. The completely baseless claim that Assange is “not a journalist” is used in an attempt to defuse the argument that his prosecution by the US government could lead to the same fate for any news media outlet which publishes leaks on the US government anywhere in the world. If he’s not a journalist, then his prosecution sets no precedent for real journalists.
This argument, if you can call it that, is fallacious for a number of reasons. For starters, as The Intercept‘s Glenn Greenwald explained last year, there’s not any legal distinction in the US Constitution between news media outlets like the New York Times and an outlet which solely focuses on publishing leaks. If you set the precedent with any publisher, you’re necessarily setting it for all of them. Greenwald writes the following:
To begin with, the press freedom guarantee of the First Amendment isn’t confined to “legitimate news outlets” – whatever that might mean. The First Amendment isn’t available only to a certain class of people licensed as “journalists.” It protects not a privileged group of people called “professional journalists” but rather an activity: namely, using the press (which at the time of the First Amendment’s enactment meant the literal printing press) to inform the public about what the government was doing. Everyone is entitled to that constitutional protection equally: there is no cogent way to justify why the Guardian, ex-DOJ-officials-turned-bloggers, or Marcy Wheeler are free to publish classified information but Julian Assange and WikiLeaks are not.
Secondly, anyone with a functioning brain can see that Julian Assange is indeed a journalist. Publishing facts so that the citizenry can inform themselves about what’s going on in their world and what’s happening with their government is the thing that journalism is. Duh. The need for an informed citizenry is the entire reason why press freedoms are protected so explicitly under the US Constitution, and publishing facts about the most powerful institutions on earth indisputably does create a more informed citizenry.
You can look at any conventional dictionary definition of the word and come to the same conclusion. Merriam-Webster offers “the public press” and “the collection and editing of news for presentation through the media”. The Oxford English Dictionary offers “The activity or profession of writing for newspapers, magazines, or news websites or preparing news to be broadcast.” Your Dictionary offers ” the work of finding, creating, editing and publishing news, or material written and presented for a newspaper, magazine or broadcast news source.” These are activities that WikiLeaks is undeniably involved in; they collect and publish newsworthy information to be circulated by themselves and other news sources. The fact that they do their part differently (and better) than other outlets doesn’t change that.
Which explains why the WikiLeaks team has racked up numerous awards for journalism over the years, including the Walkley Award for Most Outstanding Contribution to Journalism (2011), the Martha Gellhorn Prize for Journalism (2011), the International Piero Passetti Journalism Prize of the National Union of Italian Journalists (2011), the Jose Couso Press Freedom Award (2011), the Brazillian Press Association Human Rights Award (2013), and the Kazakstan Union of Journalists Top Prize (2014).
The claim that Assange is “not a journalist” is both an irrelevant red herring and a self-evident falsehood. It is made not by people with an interest in maintaining a small and specific linguistic understanding of what the word journalism means, but by people who want to see Julian Assange imprisoned by the same government which tortured Chelsea Manning because he made them feel emotionally upset. It’s a fact-free argument made entirely in bad faith for inexcusable motives: the desire to see a journalist imprisoned for telling the truth.
When someone says “Assange isn’t a journalist”, they aren’t telling you what Assange is. They’re showing you what they are.
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Kevin Beck / April 13, 2019
Those who forget history are doomed to eternal condemnation.
These government hacks that claim Julian Assange is not a journalist need to keep a few points in mind.
What do Thomas Paine, Sam Adams, and Benjamin Franklin all have in common, besides the time period? They were all journalists! Paine created pamphlets to inform his fellow citizens; Adams worked for a functioning newspaper; Franklin owned a newspaper. But each of them wrote material to inform their fellow Americans of what the British government was doing to them! And each had their own way of distributing the news.
To put the word, “professional” in front of the title of journalist is meaningless. And it is certainly an argument that has no legal or Constitutional basis whatsoever.
A few years ago, the detestable Chuck Schumer (D-People’s Democratic State of New York) proposed an idea that was eagerly accepted by two of the other most ardent anti-freedom Senators then alive, Diane Feinstein (D-People’s Republic of California) and John McCain (RINO-Arizona) that would strip all First Amendment protections from those writers not affiliated with “professional” news outlets. And they wanted to place the government in the position of determining which was a professional news outlet!
Think about that for a moment before criticizing the actions of a hero like Julian Assange.
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Laotzu / April 9, 2019
To satisfy the naysayers, perhaps all Assange needs to do — if he hasn’t already – is join the Australian journalists’ union, and end the petty quibbling about whether he’s a reporter, sub-editor, editor, or publisher. [Probably all, at some time or another.]
As someone who has spent his working life as newspaper reporter, I rub shoulders at the journalists’ association’s club bar with members wearing hats of public relations manipulators, government speech writers, advertising copy-writers, caption-writers and of course sporting pundits. To prevaricate in Assange’s case is ludicrous.
Wiliam Crain / April 9, 2019
I’d be reluctant associate with Greenwald. on any level ~ this little snake . Looking for a pc he wrote in ’05 that shook this nat’l group of Impeach Bush & Cheney !
Do not be lead astray by this Amy Goodman twit.
John2o2o / April 9, 2019
You can call informed people idiots if you want, but the Masses out there are not so well informed and for them name calling will not win any favours. Name calling will not win Julian support.
I have explained elsewhere that while I am 100% in support of Julian Assange and Wikileaks, I have nevertheless never felt entirely comfortable with the description by elite supporters of Julian Assange, such as Caitlin Johnstone, of Julian as a journalist.
I am not arguing with that description, but Julian is not what the Majority of people out there would recognise as a journalist. He does not write copy for a newspaper or for a blog.
This means that his detractors can successfully argue against this label made by his prominent supporters and that can sow the seeds of doubt about Julian’s integrity in the minds of Ordinary People. This confusion caused to the General Public – the Masses whose support he needs – will lose him vital support.
I would personally recommend, rather than ad-hominem name calling of people with whom you disagree, a description of Julian which no-one can challenge.
Julian is a PUBLISHER of sensitive material donated to him by people in confidence and which he publishes in the public interest.
Julian is not a journalist. Julian is not a hacker. Julian is a publisher.
JP McEvoy / April 9, 2019
Publisher / Journalist.. In Assange’s this is a distinction without a difference.
“Idiot” ,though, in regards to the elite caste who deny him, is right on target and to call them anything else would be disingenuous.
John Vieira / April 10, 2019
He publishes the unadulterated facts…a.k.a. the TRUTH…That will certainly get anyone “offed” in a world governed by lies and deception…
Kalle Möllmann / April 9, 2019
Some CRIMINALS commit war-crimes – and some other CRIMALS defend those CRIMINALS – and THAT is exactly what DALE RUFF is doing!
Julian Assange is our ANGEL of freedom – when it comes to FREE information – which is the HEART & the SOUL of JOURNALISM & our FREEDOM.
It is a silly conspiracy-theory – to try to create a new & FALSE label for TRUTHFULLY REPORTING HORRIBLE WAR-CRIMES BY AMERICA’S PERVERTED WAR-MACHINE – when other journalists are frightened to death, from this US-WAR-MONGER, which only knows CRIMINAL SUPPRESSION, where in REALITY a new NUREMBERG-TRIAL II is needed for George W. Bush and the rest of the criminal gang!
THOSE WAR-CRIMINALS ARE BEHAVING AS TRUE NAZI’S – AND THEY SHOULD BE JUDGED AS TRUE NAZI’S – AS THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE IN TRUTH UNDERNEATH THEIR CAMOUFLAGE MAKING BELIEVE THEY CARE FOR FREEDOM . . .
In Germany we call those insane & ANTI-social monsters – PSYCHOPATH’s – that are hooked to bloddy wars, as others are hooked to cocaine . . .
Galina / April 8, 2019
Julian Assange is a hero who stand up for the truth and fights against lies. He is an honest journalist,
who who doesn’t sell himself. But in this world there is an army of journalists, and not only journalists who betray the truth for money. West media is part of this armi.
dale ruff / April 8, 2019
Assange has betrayed his mission to be an objective journalist by joining the Russian campaign to influence the US election (serving as conduit for the material on Clinton but not on Trump, as Assange told Megyn Kelly on Fox News) and by forming relatgionshiips with Russophobe Rohrbacher, Fox news “journalist” Sean Hannity, and then contacting Trump Jr. seeking his help. A journalist who joins an election campaign becomes a hack, not a journalist.
Assange has used Fox News as his media outlet: “Kelly also questioned Assange about WikiLeaks’ involvement with the Russians in American politics and his view of both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, including what information he may have on Trump and if it will ever be released.”
And he has been interviewed by several other Fox “news” people including Hannity.
If this doesn’t throw up a red flag, nothing will.
Journalists do not join election campaigns. Assange helped bring us Trump, and he has lost respect from many of us who admired him when he was an objective journalist. But the power he gained in that role was spent defeating Clinton, whom he despised, and now he must be the keeper of secrets, a total betrayal of the mission to expose secrets that brought him the power he fantasized about in an earlier interview where he mused about how Wikileaks could change the outcome of an election by publishing damaging material.
Those defending him are ignoring his partisan role in the last election. This defense only serves the illegitimate and unjust rule of Trump, the man Assange got elected by keeping secret the material he has on Trump while using strategic timing of his releases on Clinton. For instance, WikiLeaks dumped Podesta emails one hour after Trump “pussy grab” video surfaced. This clearly shows that Assange was working to protect Trump and to elect him President.
The three Wikileaks dumps reduced the Clinton lead of 15 points to 8 points…and the FBI intervention 10 days before the election was the coup de grace. Without Assange choosing to harm Clinton and protect Trump, today Trump would be back firing people on his fake reality TV show.
The information from the DNC was leaked by an insider and nothing to do with the Russians, as was proven by forensic evidence. To still be spouting the nonsense of Russian interference and collusion with the Trump campaign demonstrates your ignorance or dishonesty..
RC-Garrs / April 8, 2019
There’s a lot of that going around, isn’t there?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/wikileaks-list-least-65-msm-reporters-meeting-andor-coordinating-offline-top-hillary-advisors/
S. Black / April 8, 2019
Rather than regurgitating old Clinton campaign charges and longstanding grievances, why don’t you read Wikileaks’ published statement on the matter? Here: https://wikileaks.org/Assange-Statement-on-the-US-Election.html
At least that will give you something solid to refute.
Dennis Black / April 8, 2019
To say Assange is not a journalist because he is partisan means the writer thinks the likes of Hannity on Fox are not journalists either. Lock ‘Em Up?
Gordon / April 8, 2019
What should really matter is what was in the DNC/Podesta/Hillary and others EMAILs wherever they happen to come from. The EMAILS and Hillary’s speeches on Wall Street are what doomed her. The DNC lawyers in court hearings admitted that the DNC establishment rigged the 2016 Primaries . They claim that the DNC has no obligation to run fair and democratic Primaries. The EMAIL showed a coordinated campaign to smear Bernie Sanders and his supporters . They also admitted to their hostility to Bernie supporters at the convention . Hillary admitted in her speeches on Wall street that she presents her honest opinion to the people on Wall Street but offers a different though insincere opinion to the public at large whom she claims are too stupid to understand Big Business and financial environment on Wall street. She has also said the same about Monsanto, fracking, big Pharma , private prison industry , the Pentagon and on and on . These are the groups she and the Democratic Establishment claim to proudly represent as they at times dumb down their opinions to fit with Average Americans who are slow on the uptake and so do not know what is good for them so it is up to the Democratic Establishment and their Big Donors to steer the Ship of State.
Maybe if Assange detractors and the Russia- Gaters were to read the Wikileaks and Intercept and other leaked documents they might see that there is a case to be made against Hillary and the DNC . But no over and over they refuse to read the documents . Meanwhile Jake Tapper on CNN wrongfully told US voters it was illegal for average citizens to read the docs found on the Wikileaks website . But after all they need to blame someone for Hillary’s loss ie Bernie, Jill Stein, the Green Party, environmentalists, Tulsi Gabbard , Russia, Putin , socialists, communists, progressives, unions , The Democratic Party has been working to undermine all vestiges it appears of FDR’s New Deal of the 1930’s in order to benefit their biggest donors .
Hecate / April 9, 2019
so clearly the ‘idiot’ in the title is referring to you
none of that’s real
ethan allen / April 9, 2019
Re: DALE RUFF
Your comment appears to be parroting a smorgasbord of debunked talking points and unsubstantiated “alternative facts” promulgated over the past several years by an assortment of corporate media talking heads, print media tabloid hacks, and U.S. government propaganda.
I agree with fellow commenter S. Black that, if you indeed have ever been a supporter of Julian Assange and his work, you need to read his definitive and cogent (factual) “statement on the matter” at https://wikileaks.org/Assange-Statement-on-the-US-Election.html
As Usual,
Really!!? you’re somehow a self-willed purveyor of tripe yourself. And i suppose you’re here to clear away all doubt and stand up for Hillary eh. Eeuuuuuuu
Mitica Nicora / April 13, 2019
Dale Ruff – Sorry, and according to you Hillary should have been won the elections? If Assange supported Trump where is his support for Assange now? For me, Trump and Hillary are the two faces of the same coin, both are serving the deep state. So one have to choose the less worse between two psychopats. That’s democracy???
“The difference between a journalist and a reporter is a little like the difference between a police officer and a homicide detective; the second is just a specific instance of the first. While there are many different kinds of careers in journalism, a reporter’s job covers a narrower scope and requires a specific skill set.” https://work.chron.com/difference-between-journalist-reporter-2868.html
To this I would add that Assange is both a publisher and an editor. As a responsible editor, he takes a very light hand, redacting only names and personal information that could jeopardize innocent parties.
Re: S. Black posting of April 8, 2019
There is no mention, in the topical article, of any confusion or imagined distinction between a journalist and a reporter, and the convoluted police metaphor quoted in your comment.. (see below)..appears to convey an inverted understanding.
“The difference between a journalist and a reporter is a little like the difference between a police officer and a homicide detective; the second is just a specific instance of the first. While there are many different kinds of careers in journalism, a reporter’s job covers a narrower scope and requires a specific skill set.”</blockquote
The url you cited as a reference for your quotation does not work, and does not seem to be searchable via Google. It would be helpful if you can provide a searchable source for your quote.
“Work is love made visible.” KG
Sorry the link doesn’t work for you, Ethan Allen; it works fine for me. The article introduced by the quote is also coherent.
The concept should be perfectly clear. It translates quite nicely into a Venn diagram.
In his 1971 opinion in the Pentagon Papers case, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black wrote: “In the First Amendment the Founding Fathers gave the free press the protection it must have to fulfill its essential role in our democracy. The press was to serve the governed, not the governors. The Government’s power to censor the press was abolished so that the press would remain forever free to censure the Government.”
That’s what WikiLeaks and Julian Assange have been doing since 2006: censuring governments with governments’ own words pried from secrecy by WikiLeak’s sources—whistleblowers. In other words, WikiLeaks has been doing the job the U.S. constitution intended the press to do. – Joe Lauria, ConsortiumNews.com
James / April 7, 2019
AN OPEN LETTER TO PRIME MINISTER SCOTT MORRISON: PLEASE USE THE POWERS VESTED IN YOU TO END JULIAN ASSANGE’S CRUEL ORDEAL
https://candobetter.net/node/5742
Dear Prime Minister Scott Morrison,
I write to ask you to act to bring to an end circumstances faced by Julian Assange which certainly have already harmed his health and may well end his life if those circumstances are not rectified soon.
An investigation into by the Australian Federal Police into Julian Assange ordered by former Prime Minister Julia Gillard in 2010, found that he had committed no crime.
In spite of that, he was threatened with extradition to the United States to face, in its rigged court system – as attested to by former CIA officer John Kiriakou, amongst others – charges that the United States is not even prepared to reveal to the public. Julian Assange, who is not even a United States’ citizen, could face many years of imprisonment – or worse – for merely having made known, through Wikileaks, information that the public should know about world events of recent years.
Surely, neither the extradition of Julian Assange to the United States, nor his continued confinement under the degrading conditions he has been made to endure for so long, are alternatives that should be acceptable to an Australian government showing a basic duty of care to each and every one of its citizens.
I therefore urgently request that you act now to end the illegal detention of Julian Assange. You could despatch today a contingent of Federal Police to fly to London, go to the Ecuadorian embassy and escort Julian Assange back to Heathrow Airport and thence back to Tullamarine Airport. I doubt if any British government authority would dare obstruct a contingent of Federal Police clearly acting to uphold the law and to end such a cruel denial of basic human rights.
James Sinnamon
Sea (Online) Clearly / April 7, 2019
Your article began with a picture of Julian Assange holding a journalism award. Perfect. For in these times, those with the ability/means/goals to do so will, beyond what is absolute written documentation, attempt to even override what is pictured, or currently available to the masses as filmed evidence of truth. In direct relation to these stages of their planned steps:
Nevada Judge Orders Online Journalist to Reveal Sources, Not Protected by Shield Law https://pressfreedomtracker.us/all-incidents/nevada-judges-orders-online-journalist-reveal-sources-says-not-protected-shield-law/
“A Nevada state court judge issued an order on March 4 to compel an online journalist to reveal his confidential sources, ruling that because he did not work for a print publication he did not qualify as a journalist—and was thus not covered by Nevada’s shield law at the time.” “Wilson ruled that because the Storey Teller is an ONLINE-ONLY publication, it ‘is not a newspaper and, therefore the news media privilege is not available to Toll under the ‘reporter of a newspaper’ provision of [Nevada’s shield law].”
Online-Only? In this day and age? When the whole modern world is transformed or transforming to. . . . Is that clear enough?
It is. And, to certain degrees, they want each step to be.
jmg / April 7, 2019
https://karoo.me/app/uploads/2016/06/first-they-came-for-assange.jpg
Re:Caitlin Johnstone –
Yes, of course, Julian Assange is a journalist; as is virtually anyone and everyone who conveys information in written form. The “freedom of the press” as annotated in the Bill of Rights and affixed to the U.S. Constitution is the legal expression of an express protected right of every citizen to compose, publish, and/or distribute their writings and/or those of others of their choice; This‘express protected right’, like all the others enshrined in The Bill of Rights and Constitution, can not be denied or violated by any act of government or private entity.
A cursory study of the efforts of Benjamin Franklin, James Madison, John Adams, and Thomas Jefferson at the time of the Constitutional Convention will provide an enlightening insight into how the “freedom of the press” language was included to encourage the free sharing of truth and knowledge as well as the artful writings of prose and poetry without compromising either interest is an express right of citizenship.
We need more of this type of uncompromised moral courage in our current times, lest cultural and ethical decay cast humanity into a decline that rivals previous “dark ages”.
Tom Blanton / April 7, 2019
Miriam-Webster says: “the collection and editing of news for presentation through the media” about journalism. It is the “and editing” part that Julian doesn’t fool with. He is a fountainhead of truth. Totally unfiltered truth with no comments, no opinions, no distortion. This is more important than mere journalism. Julian Assange is like a wholesale outlet for those with a hunger for facts. He is a major source for information that journalists can use to write about, adding context and relevant facts to produce something more valuable than just paraphrasing government press releases. The way Assange has been treated should be a wake-up call that we are living in a nightmare.
Neville J. Angove / April 7, 2019
It is the accuracy of what someone writes, and possibly their motive, that defined them as a journalist.
Not a degree, because it seems that most mainstream journalists seem to have degrees but can’t produce legitimate journalism
I do not have anything more than a slight distaste for Assange (and that is based on his appearances, and Bernard Cumberbatch’s portrayal of him). But he appears to be, by any rules, someone to be awarded the title of “journalist.”
He is being vilified simply because he is “leaking” what too many want hidden.
Robyn / April 7, 2019
Wikileaks doesn’t ‘leak’ – it publishes leaked information which is entrusted to them. Julian is being punished in a modern version of ‘kill the messenger’. And as an example to others who might be tempted to disclose the truth about TPTB.
junghi lee / April 7, 2019
report the truth about crimes, and you’re a criminal.
lie, cover up, distort, spin, and copy only the narratives of the powers that be, and you’re a professional journalist.
Neil Sheehan was a journalist, he published The Pentagon Papers in the NYT.
https://www.cjr.org/the_feature/did_the_pentagon_papers_matter.php
Any changes or reinterpretations since then is because somebody wants to hide the weinie.
Of course, as compared to Sheehan, Julian Assange is a journalist too.
John / April 7, 2019
Another grand slam. Thanks for doing this, Caitlin. Can’t wait to share this one too with full attribution to you.
Ron Campbell / April 7, 2019
If the United States government ever gets its dirty hands on Mr. Assange he will be transported to our torture chamber ” Gitmo ” in Cuba where he will be tortured every day for the rest of his life!!!
Vayu / April 7, 2019
What amazes me are the people that believe there’s something more wrong with whistle blowing than the improprieties that are are being reported.
caughtBetwixt / April 7, 2019
The obvious rejoinder is to assert that Mr. Assange has cried fire in a theater so often that he lost the protections of a publisher. And that will stand as the powers that be (judges) will agree.
Every great power has done what USA is doing. They believe we do less of the bad. I have my doubts that we are less than average because none have had the insanity of doing so everywhere.
> “The obvious rejoinder is to assert that Mr. Assange has cried fire in a theater so often that he lost the protections of a publisher. And that will stand”
Excuse me? I was about to ask what corner of the “Deep State” you just rolled in from were it not for the latter part of your comment. However, perhaps you are not aware of how famously Wikileaks has NEVER had to retract anything – not ever, as in 100%?
Motive, not truth is the measure in court.
what is Assange’s motive?
To less confuse everyone outside the USA while harming a few spooks worldwide? What philosophy would you apply?
And here I was thinking his motive and that of WikiLeaks included “less confusing,” disabusing, and helping the deceived, distracted and divided American public for both their benefit of that of the entire world too, silly me. And as for harm, I was thinking they only wish to expose and defeat genuine evil wherever it resides, for a better world, not harm anyone. Lions and tigers and bears – what was I thinking?
pretzelattack / April 7, 2019
what is your evidence for this?
It is unremarkable to break a law and not be convicted in court. It is often allowed to murder people for example. Truth does not convict.
Nylene13 / April 7, 2019
Thomas Paine came to America and self-published – pamphlets.
As his friend President Jefferson said-
“Without a Free Press, there can be no Democracy”
because, unless the voters are informed, voting means nothing.
Pap-a-lap / April 9, 2019
Noteworthy that Paine was reviled & vilified by post-revolutionary American power brokers, smeared by the popular press, driven out of England by the William Pitt government, imprisoned by the Jacobins in France, and died a pauper in New York City. Six people attended his funeral – two were black.
John McEvoy / April 7, 2019
This reminds me of when Matt Drudge scooped. the big boys who were deliberately ignoring Bill Clinton’s sexcapeds in the Oval Office.. “ He’s not a real journalist “ either we were told… As the story turned out to be true, I guess that was what disqualified him.
Assange is a reporter – like Hersh, Pilger, Fisk et al — that rare breed of journalist you might trust.
LSJohn / April 7, 2019
Please don’t leave Greenwald and Taibbi off your list.
I support Julian Assange 100% so the following comment is in no way intended as a criticism or weakening of his case for freedom.
Where does a Degree in journalism come in if anyone publishing can claim to be a journalist? Correct me if I’m wrong, but I seem to remember you, Caitlin, showing evidence of your Degree when some (lame-brain) critics said you were not a journalist. Certainly Julian is a publisher, but I wonder whether he is, technically speaking, a journalist.
Degrees help you get a job with large and formal corporations. Degrees in anything can be helpful and often impart important fundamentals, but they do not guarantee a person is better than someone without a degree. I’m in computer science and there are certainly important fundamentals that schools impart, yet there are numerous people without formal training that are extremely knowledgeable and skillful in an industry that is overwhelmingly intricate, complex and knowledge based.
majority of “professional journailsts” who work for the mainstream media have a journalism degree.
i meant to say “no journalism degree.” i wish i could edit the damn thing…
John Farnham / April 8, 2019
Robyn I had the same thought – but I don’t hand out journalism awards. As an editor / publisher he tends to define a ‘free press’. It seems insufferable to some that his word is so highly regarded as to constitute truth. For a society to accept retail store ‘yellow journalism’ and censor Infowars shows an extremely selective – dare I say biased ? – definition of ‘fake news.’
mike k / April 7, 2019
In fact Assange is one of the few real journalists still functioning. They will be a dying breed if the Empire has it’s way.
Anarcissie / April 7, 2019
That is not so. If one commits certain acts and is apprehended, one will suffer imprisonment and sometimes worse. Motive or lack of it may mitigate one’s treatment, but something, based on the facts of the matter as established in court, will be the result. (This is in theory, of course. In practical effect, certain people have a license to kill.)
In other news, it seems to me that the discussion of whether Mr. Assange is a journalist is vacuous. The Constitution guarantees freedom of expression, not freedom of journalism. The attribution of special rights to a professional caste constituted by the state is pernicious to everyone’s freedom.
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Salvage and recycling – the Queensland way
12 May, 2017 By Queensland State Archives
You may have seen in the news recently that Sweden – one of those countries that recycles almost all of their household waste and even imports waste from other countries to recycle – has opened a shopping centre that only sells recycled, upcycled and repurposed goods!
This news story got me thinking about the methods used by Queenslanders to recycle and reuse goods over time. During the Second World War, many Queenslanders were looking for ways to ‘do their bit’ at home to support the war effort.
One method, embraced by the public and by the government, was the salvage and recycling of waste materials. Materials particularly sought after for salvage and recycling were:
useable paper like used office paper and newspapers
metals, including aluminium and brass
clean rags and fabric.
Here in the QSA collection, we have numerous letters and other records about the salvage of waste materials in Queensland during the Second World War. For instance, there is a letter dated 7 September 1942 to the Honourable W Forgan Smith MLA recommending the creation of a film on the importance of salvaging waste material:
Such a film should cover all phases of salvage from the recovery of the waste materials at the source of supply to the manufactured articles. These latter should be shown in actual use or being assembled for use even as munitions of war where this can be done without endangering security.
At the 1941 Royal National Exhibition – better known as the ‘Ekka’ – there was even a salvage display with a showcase of products made from salvaged waste paper!
QSA Digital Image ID 2953: Display at the Royal National Exhibition, Brisbane, August 1941
There are more letters on the salvage of materials and the coordination of the collection of salvage materials that have been digitised and made available in Image Queensland. Check the list of resources at the end of this post for more details.
We’d love to hear more about your recollections of the salvage and recycling initiatives during and after the Second World War – drop us a line on Facebook or comment on this blog to get in contact with us and share your story!
Letter to H E R Jones from R S Mackay, Health and Home Affairs Department, regarding the salvage of metal in country districts, 28 March 1941 (QSA Digital Image ID 22383)
Letter to the Honourable W Forgan Smith MLA, from E M Hanlon Minister for Health and Home Affairs, recommending the creation of a film on the importance of salvaging waste material, 7 September 1942 (QSA Digital Image ID 22368)
Letter to the Under Secretary Department of Health and Home Affairs from T T Lyons, Under Secretary Department of Public Works, regarding reclaiming brass from broken electric light globes, 28 January 1943 (QSA Digital Image ID 22386)
Letter to Hon F A Cooper MLA, Premier of Queensland, from J Larcombe Minister for Public Instruction, regarding coordinating a collection of salvage materials, 9 July 1944 (QSA Digital Image ID 22367)
Display at the Royal National Exhibition, Brisbane in August 1941 showcasing products created from salvaged waste paper (QSA Digital Image ID 2953)
‘Flock’ and metal sections of salvage display at the Royal National Exhibition, Brisbane in August 1941 (QSA Digital Image ID 2946)
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Heidi Caddies
I loved coming across this article. I am in my 40s and have been conscious of waste for as long as I can remember. I put that down to growing up in a time of environmental awareness and the learned habits of my grandmother, who was in no way an activist but could not waste anything. She was not poor but lived through the wars and depression in rural Victoria. She gave value to everything from plastic bags (washed and reused) to water (used sparingly) to clothes. The list of ways in which she reused disposable things and conserved valuable things is long – but it is her mindset that I inherited and I wonder how typical she was of her time, and if she was, why haven’t we inherited this mindset more generally in our society given the challenges of our times. It is great to look back to this era to show how we should regard the materials we are using and throwing away.
Reply 3 August, 2018 at 10:09 pm
Hi Heidi – Thanks for sharing your memories and thoughts.
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Another step in testing ElectionGuard
Feb 17, 2020 | Tom Burt - Corporate Vice President, Customer Security & Trust
Tomorrow I’ll be in Fulton, Wisconsin, with a team of people from Microsoft taking one of many steps needed to prepare our ElectionGuard technology for broad adoption. Together with election officials from the state of Wisconsin and the election technology company VotingWorks, we will be piloting ElectionGuard in an actual election for the first time.
As voters in Fulton go to their polling place tomorrow to cast ballots in a primary election for Wisconsin Supreme Court candidates, the official count will be tallied using paper ballots as usual. However, ElectionGuard will also provide an encrypted digital tally of the vote that will enable voters to confirm their votes have been counted and not altered. Tomorrow’s pilot is one step in a deliberate and careful process to get ElectionGuard right before it’s used more broadly across the country.
Preparing technology for wide adoption is accomplished through incremental steps that enable iteration and improvement. We first demonstrated an implementation of ElectionGuard to cybersecurity experts and others at the annual Aspen Security Forum last summer. Then, in September, we shared the code for ElectionGuard as an open source project on GitHub so voting machine manufacturers, security researchers and others could begin testing it. We announced a bug bounty program, offering up to $15,000 to people who report security vulnerabilities with ElectionGuard so they can be fixed. The code was also tested for security vulnerabilities by NCC Group. Tomorrow’s pilot gives us the first chance to see ElectionGuard in action in a real election, to assess its performance and observe voter reaction. We hope to learn from this so we can continue to work with election officials in Wisconsin and other states – and with technology partners such as VotingWorks – to improve ElectionGuard. This is by no means the last step in our preparation; we anticipate many more pilots of ElectionGuard technology as we get it ready for prime time.
To be clear, the biggest credit for tomorrow’s pilot goes to the Wisconsin Election Commission and its Administrator Meagan Wolfe, as well as Rock County Clerk Lisa Tollefson for making the decision to try ElectionGuard so they can evaluate it for future use, and to VotingWorks, which designed and built much of the physical voting experience used in Fulton tomorrow. We’ve worked closely with the Commission and VotingWorks in recent months to test the system and voting machines for pilot use tomorrow, to conduct a public test of the machines even before the pilot, and to train polling place workers. We are also grateful to Connie Zimmerman, the Fulton Town Clerk, for enabling and supporting this pilot in the polling place she’s run for years, and to the Fulton Town Board, which voted to approve the pilot.
Tomorrow’s voting experience includes a three-step process. First, a voter will select candidates on a touchscreen and verify their choices. Second, the voter will print and review for accuracy a paper ballot and simultaneously receive a separate tracking code. Third, the voter will deposit their ballot into a ballot box for counting.
Behind the scenes, we will be able to tally the vote electronically, and compare the result to the official count. We will be able to test voter reaction to the great voting experience that VotingWorks has enabled using ElectionGuard. And we will be able to test, with the voters of Fulton, the verifiability of votes using ElectionGuard – which should enable voters to individually confirm that their vote was counted.
ElectionGuard, which we announced in May 2019, is open source software that will make elections more secure and end-to-end verifiable, enabling people to confirm their votes were counted and not altered and allowing news organizations or non-profits to build verifiers to confirm that election results were properly tabulated. ElectionGuard was built with the flexibility to be used in systems where paper ballots provide the primary vote count or where paper ballots are used as a backup. Additionally, ElectionGuard has been built to help ensure voting is accessible for people with disabilities and to give everyone a modern, fast and efficient voting experience.
Tomorrow’s pilot will occur at the Fulton Town office where we expect a few hundred votes to be cast. Both Microsoft and VotingWorks will have technical staff on site, and the town of Fulton has certified backup machines used in previous elections on hand should they be needed.
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UC employee ‘Ma Jean’ passes at age 71
4 months ago Blue and Gray Press Life
Jean Barnes died on August 31, 2020. | Stephens Family Funeral Home
By CAMERON DELEAN
Jean Gray Barnes, who has worked with campus dining at UMW for 14 years, passed away recently at the age of 71. This devastating loss has deeply saddened the UMW community.
Barnes, affectionately called “Ma Jean” by students and coworkers, is remembered fondly by those who were fortunate enough to know her. She took genuine interest in students’ lives and always greeted them with a smile, as well as asking how they had been.
Barnes worked at the top of the UC and was well-known across campus. Many students are able to recall a positive interaction that they’ve had with her throughout her time at the school.
Senior Benjamin Siegel remembers Barnes’s infectious, positive attitude that brightened the days of many students.
“I’d always see her at the UC and joke around and talk with her,” Siegel said. “She was one of the nicest and most soulful workers there are.”
Barnes showed genuine passion for her work and a deep care for the school that touched the lives of many and inspired the community. She had a way of making those she came across feel important and cared for. The everyday interactions students had with her radiated a feeling of unity and family.
Senior Andrew South shared in that feeling of unity with Barnes on multiple occasions.
“She was super nice, if you even just acknowledged her by name she would ask how you’re doing and how classes are going and she would give you extra food,” South said. “She really felt like a family member. You got that feel from her even though you didn’t know her well.”
Amongst other things, Barnes was a beloved mother of four children, grandmother of four children, and great-grandmother of one child. Her compassionate personality has even led many of those around her to consider her a second mother.
Cameron Coates, an alum from the graduating class of 2020, remembers that role Barnes played during his time on campus.
“Ma Jean was almost like a relative to me, she always made sure that I was doing okay, and wanted to provide me with so much care,” Coates said. “She was one of a kind.”
Students agree: their interactions with Ma Jean have made their time on campus a little bit brighter. Barnes’s caring nature left a huge impact on the student body and was what made her so widely loved and appreciated by the community. She will be remembered for her kind words, sweet disposition and hard work she contributed to making UMW the best it can be. Barnes remains an irreplaceable member of our school, and will be deeply missed.
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Sandy Williams says:
Mama Jean, I remember they day I interviewed you and you said, I will always give 110% of myself and you did just that, I will forever remember you as a great lady and a friend, as I moved from being a sous chef, and began another Job at the uc, you still would make your way dwn to the first floor to see how I was doing, due to health issue after 20 years I had to resign from sodexo, but my heart was still with you I will always remember the smile upon your face , and the many chats we had, Rest in heaven!!❤🥺
Nate A. says:
She will be missed. We should name a bench in her honor.
Emma Thomas says:
Any way to donate to the family? my umw email is ethomas2@mail.umw.edu
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UK Lawmakers Aim to Fully Legalize Cannabis Within 10 Years
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Sometimes all that’s needed for a policymaker to change their mind on marijuana legalization is a quick trip to a place where regulation is in place and the apocalypse has not yet arrived. Such was the case when members of UK parliament (MPs) made an exploratory visit to Canada’s rapidly evolving legal marijuana industry. The British politicians came back enthused, with one of them from a political party that hasn’t even declared itself in favor of legalization saying that the UK could shake off cannabis prohibition within a year
“I want the market legalised, regulated and taken away from crime gangs,” said that individual, Labour Party MP David Lammy, in a BBC Newsbeat documentary that captured the trip. “I want to see the strength of the stuff reduced, labelled and properly organised in this country.”
Lammy was joined on the excursion by a number of his peers from various political parties, who all financed their own trip. Sir Norman Lamb of the Liberal Democrats (who have taken an official pro-legalization stance) made history on the trip by becoming the first currently serving British member of parliament to take a cannabis-derived product in public, as documented by the BBC cameras.
Sir Norman also shared that he thought it was “ridiculous” that he had to dispose of his remaining cannabis oil before flying home. The politician says that he uses the oil to sleep and for relaxation.
Happily, not everyone is flushing their medicinal marijuana rather than sending it off to Great Britain. In June, Canada’s Tilray, Inc. sent out company’s first large shipment of cannabis oil to the UK, a THC-CBD blend oral solution.
But though medicinal marijuana has been legal in Great Britain since November of last year, the country is still home to intense stigma against the drug. In May, a morning talk show abruptly cut off a segment featuring medical marijuana champion Charlotte Caldwell. The advocate had been telling viewers the harrowing story of her son Billy, who was reportedly near death when Heathrow Airport security officials confiscated the CBD oil that the family was using to treat his severe epileptic seizures. The hosts of This Morning interrupted Caldwell in the middle of her narrative to transition to an interview with the stars of a hospital-themed soap opera.
Sadly, that stigma has been reflected in the actions of health care professionals as well. At the beginning of the year, hospital staff reported reluctance at Royal Derby Hospital to prescribe cannabis for qualifying health conditions, citing “the risk of serious side effects.”
And not all policymakers were in agreement with Lammy’s year-long prognostication for full-scale cannabis legalization. Conservative MP Jonathan Djanogly went so far in the BBC documentary to estimate that recreational use was still 10 to 15 years away.
“I think we have got a lot to learn before the legalisation of recreational cannabis, which I think will happen at some point,” said Djanogly.
Nevertheless, cannabis politics have seen some recent shifts in the UK. This spring, the National Police Chief’s Council announced that it would be giving officers the freedom to let individuals off for small scale cannabis possession with a simple recommendation that they seek addiction treatment (which, sure, is a slightly annoying suggestion, but surely better than a fine or jail time.)
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Morris, Larkin – Why do we still use the term ‘sub-Saharan Africa’?
Why do we still use the term ‘sub-Saharan Africa’?
By Max de Haldevang – September 1, 2016
Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg began his first visit to Nigeria on Tuesday—a country of 182 million people whose GDP quadrupled between 2005 and 2015. But many Western headlines, including one by CNN, highlighted not that he was visiting Nigeria, but ‘sub-Saharan Africa.’
One tweet summed up some Nigerians’ feelings at being swept into this broad group during their moment in the spotlight:
Boko Haram is in Nigeria but Mark Zuckerberg is visiting Sub-saharan Africa. The Thunder that will fire CNN…
— Oluyomi Ojo (@OluyomiOjo) August 30, 2016
But it’s not just CNN. A quick google shows the AP, Reuters, The New York Times and our good selves at Quartz regularly use ‘sub-Saharan Africa,’ a term as confusing as it is historically loaded.
The UN Development Program lists 46 of Africa’s 54 countries as ‘sub-Saharan,’ excluding Algeria, Djibouti, Egypt, Libya, Morocco, Somalia, Sudan and Tunisia. This doesn’t make geographical sense—four countries included are on the Sahara, while Eritrea is deemed ‘sub-Saharan’ but its southern neighbor Djibouti isn’t.
The World Bank muddies the waters further, adding Sudan and Somalia to total 48 countries under the label.
By contrast, the African Union barely uses the term, instead referring to regional organizations like the East African Community and the Economic Community of West African States as its “building blocks”.
“‘Sub-Saharan Africa’ is such an enormous catchphrase that it’s almost useless,” says Rosalind Morris, an African Studies professor at Columbia University. “Nigeria as a state doesn’t look anything like Kenya as a state, doesn’t look anything like Botswana.”
So, why use this vague term that few can agree on and is geographically inaccurate? And where does it come from?
The term spread as a replacement for racially-tinged phrases ‘Tropical Africa’ and ‘Black Africa’ that were used until around the 1950s, says Columbia University anthropologist Brian Larkin.
The dividing line itself also has some troubling origins in what Larkin calls “racist” colonial theories that thought northern Africa more culturally developed.
“It divides Africa according to white ideas of race, making North Africans white enough to be considered for their glories, but not really white enough,” Tatenda Chinondidyachii Mashanda, a politics and international affairs scholar at Wake Forest University, wrote earlier this year for The African Exponent. “[It] is a way of saying ‘Black Africa’ and talking about black Africans without sounding overtly racist.”
One US diaspora group found the phrase so “disparaging and contemptuous” it launched a 2010 petition to abolish it—but found scant success.
With the World Bank and others employing it to sort data about a region lacking in reliable statistics, journalists have depended on this grouping to try to make sense of demographic and economic trends, propagating it even further.
African governments and even academics also have to fall into line, since aid organizations use it to assign funds, says Morris.
“People are often forced into unhappy or at least sometimes awkward complicity with those systems of naming, in order to just get funding,” Morris said.
That’s not to say grouping nations by shared colonial history isn’t analytically helpful—their similar institutions, languages and close relations make for good comparisons. But ‘sub-Sahara’ is too vast to shed light on those traits and can strengthen an often imagined divide between northern Arab countries and the rest of Africa, Larkin says.
So, maybe it’s time for some nuance around a subject where debate is so reductive that Yale anthropology professor Louisa Lombard says “academics are used to people speaking about Africa as one country.”
What’s wrong with more accurate geographic markers, like East, West, Central and Southern Africa? Or even just calling Nigeria, the world’s seventh biggest country, by its own name.
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January 1, 2021 · 20:38
Newt Gingrich Has No Moral Authority
Newt Gingrich Needs to Ride Off Into the Political Sunset
Newt Gingrich recently wrote an opinion piece in the right-wing Washington Times entitled: “Why I will not accept Joe Biden as president”. I could simply ask “Who gives a damn?” and end this post, but Newt Gingrich is rarely challenged on his bombastic bullshit. For those lucky folks who don’t know much about Gingrich, here are the cliff notes:
He’s an arrogant, self-important, self-delusional, self-aggrandizing, adulterous, finger-in-the-wind ex-politician. For more detail, read:
Politico’s “The Millennial’s Guide to Newt Gingrich“
The Atlantic’s “How Newt Gingrich Destroyed American Politics“, and
Time’s “How Newt Gingrich Laid the Groundwork for Trump’s Republican Party“
Now, back to Newt’s opinion piece; without a doubt, the most hypocritical statement comes at the very start:
Having spent more than four years watching the left #Resist President Donald Trump and focus entirely on undoing and undermining the 2016 election, it took me several days to understand the depth of my own feelings.
Carrying the torch of Republican hypocrisy
In case you didn’t know, Newt Gingrich was the star of the show at the 2009 Inauguration eve meeting to sabotage Obama’s presidency. Robert Draper’s book, “Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives” lists attendees as:
Republican Reps. Eric Cantor (Va.), Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), Paul Ryan (Wis.), Pete Sessions (Texas), Jeb Hensarling (Texas), Pete Hoekstra (Mich.) and Dan Lungren (Calif.), along with Republican Sens. Jim DeMint (S.C.), Jon Kyl (Ariz.), Tom Coburn (Okla.), John Ensign (Nev.) and Bob Corker (Tenn.). The non-lawmakers present included Newt Gingrich, … and Frank Luntz, the long-time Republican wordsmith.
As HuffPost’s Sam Stein reported:
For several hours in the Caucus Room (a high-end D.C. establishment), the book says they plotted out ways to not just win back political power, but to also put the brakes on Obama’s legislative platform. (…)
“You will remember this day,” Draper reports Newt Gingrich as saying on the way out. “You’ll remember this as the day the seeds of 2012 were sown.”
Sadly for Newt, the seeds dried up and Obama won re-election in 2012. Republicans never realized how much Democrats supported their President, and saw through GOP efforts to ensure the government failed. Just as they don’t realize even now that unlike their base, Democrats have always seen through Trump’s MAGA bullshit. Republicans elected a repulsive, vulgar, un-American, self-absorbed con-man who has done nothing but shit all over the dignity of the office and the reputation of the country. AND NEWT GINGRICH KNOWS THIS.
Covering for the Failure-in-Chief
Gingrich continues:
” …Democrat-led COVID-19 policies have enriched the wealthy while crushing middle class small business owners (some 160,000 restaurants may close).”
It’s DEMOCRATIC-led, brainiac, sheesh! Anyway, this kind of nonsense is why people like Newt write for conservative sites: No Pushback. And fact-checking? PFFFT.
Whatever COVID-19 policies Democrats enacted were a result of the lack of leadership and blatant dishonesty from Washington. Blue states acted quickly and imposed the necessary lockdowns.
Republicans, however, hid behind their constituents’ selfish “freedom” arguments and practically reveled in doing the opposite of everything the disease specialists suggested.
Red States’ COVID cases are surging now, and Republicans and the White House have abandoned any pretense of having a plan.
The Right’s fine-tuned art of dishonesty
As for “enriching the wealthy and crushing middle-class small business owners”, that is a direct result of the non-existent oversight of the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP). According to SBA.gov:
The Paycheck Protection Program is a loan designed to provide a direct incentive for small businesses to keep their workers on the payroll.
SBA will forgive loans if all employee retention criteria are met, and the funds are used for eligible expenses.
But according to Vox (my emphasis):
As written in the legislation, any business that’s classified as an accommodation or food service that has 500 or fewer employees at its individual locations, is eligible. It’s a loophole that, in theory, was meant to help franchisees and independent owners — think a local McDonald’s store owner — but as Bloomberg notes, the “language didn’t clarify whether individual locations must apply for the aid or whether corporate headquarters could start vacuuming up millions in relief funds.”
Some of the “small businesses” that “vacuumed up” money included Ruth’s Chris Steak House, Shake Shack, and the Los Angeles Lakers. In fact, the AP found that “… at least 94 companies that disclosed receiving aid since the program opened April 3 were publicly traded, some with market values well over $100 million.” True small businesses were left to fend for themselves, thus the money was gone before they could even get their applications processed.
Mnuchin’s Financial Free For All
Among others receiving PPP money:
A couple who purchased a $3.5 million estate, and a “ministry” that tried to buy a $3.7 million house in Disney World’s Golden Oak development. In addition, Small Business Trends reports:
Feds have seized a 2020 Lamborghini Huracan sports car, a Rolex Presidential watch, a 5.73-carat diamond ring, and a diamond bracelet — all purchased with PPP loan money. Other loot includes a Tesla, a 26-foot Pavati Wake Boat, a 33-foot Cruiser yacht, two Rolls-Royces, a Lamborghini Urus, a Kia Stinger, and a Ford F-350 pickup truck.
Authorities also seized cash hoards and froze bank accounts. They are in the process of trying to recover other assets.
Some defendants blew taxpayer money on wild spending sprees, including Las Vegas gambling, visits to strip clubs, and day-trading. In one case, a married couple was apprehended at JFK Airport purportedly attempting to flee the country after submitting 18 fraudulent applications — allegedly.
As a result of public outcry over the program’s fraudulent loans, Steve Mnuchin decided to conceal the names of businesses receiving PPP loans.
I’m not going to continue to point out the blatant lies in Gingrich’s opinion piece, I think you get the drift. Aside from tax breaks for the wealthy, starting wars, suppressing the vote, and denying people their rights, lying is one of the things Republicans excel at. Newt Gingrich’s opinions are about as important as something you’d scrape off of your shoe, and his character is no better.
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November 9, 2020 · 20:46
Election Fraud Found Right Where You’d Expect It
The Trump Toadies are out in full force for their Master claiming to have evidence of voter fraud, or just simply feeling it in their gut:
Rudy Giuliani held a press conference claiming he had upwards of 50 witnesses to voter fraud. The first guy he called up to the podium happened to be a convicted child sex offender. (Pardon coming his way from Trump?)
Newt Gingrich went on Fox and made ridiculous claims: “First, you go out and the Democrats steal five or six states, and that’s what Republicans believe we’re watching. We think we have evidence of a lot of it.” Called it “…a left-wing power grab financed by people like George Soros, deeply laid in at the local level.” And declared: “I think that it is a corrupt, stolen election.” Will Newt EVER go away?
College dropout turned Trump’s personal news host, Sean Hannity actually suggested a “do-over” in Pennsylvania. Civics must have been one of his toughest classes.
Then there’s poor, pathetic Lou Dobbs, whose mind seems to be failing him: “I believe corporate left-wing media, Biden and Harris have overstepped—PA ignoring court orders, the law and they claim victory! Huge suspect vote dumps for Biden in about a half dozen states, and clearly widespread voting fraud. There is no way that Biden… could get more legal votes than the greatest President ever!” Right. Outa. His. Ass.
So What is Election Fraud?
“Electoral fraud, sometimes referred to as election fraud, election manipulation, voter fraud or vote rigging, involves illegal interference with the process of an election, either by increasing the vote share of a favored candidate, depressing the vote share of rival candidates, or both.”
Republicans are in search of election fraud, pointing everywhere but to their own back yard. They know who’s committing fraud, and they’re in full support of it.
♦ The California Republican Party… admitted responsibility for placing more than 50 deceptively labeled “official” drop boxes for mail-in ballots in Los Angeles, Fresno, and Orange Counties, an action that state officials said was illegal and could lead to voter fraud. ( NY Times, Oct. 2020 )
♦ Republican Gov. Greg Abbott “…forced Travis and Harris counties — two of the state’s most important Democratic strongholds — to shutter a number of drop-off sites they had already opened… and allowed “Texas counties to provide no more than one drop-off location for voters casting absentee ballots.” (Texas Tribune, Oct. 2020) Abbott had to be sued to do the right thing.
♦ Republicans in Wisconsin urged volunteers to contact Pennsylvania Trump voters “to get them to turn in ballots days after the election.” (Daily Beast, Nov. 2020)
♦ A Republican in California set up an illegal “vote center” in front of his business. (Voice of OC, Nov. 2020)
Then there’s this little nugget involving Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel herself, from the Minnesota Reformer:
Minnesota GOP Chairperson Jennifer Carnahan told party activists on Thursday night that she would help amplify claims of ballot fraud made by President Donald Trump and national Republican leaders, even though they are baseless assertions disputed by election officials of both parties.
Carnahan said that earlier Thursday, Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel asked her and other GOP officials around the country to recruit elected Republicans to parrot the false claims of fraud.
Also, as recapped by the Las Vegas Sun this month:
In December, The Topeka Capital-Journal exposed Kansas GOP Congressman Steve Watkins for using a UPS office in that city as his home address in order to register for a 2019 municipal election.
Wisconsin Republicans prevented postponement of this year’s primary election and extension of mail-in voting despite the COVID-19 pandemic, then rigged the system so that only five of 180 polling sites were open in Milwaukee. Black and Hispanic voters were disproportionately affected, but turned out in strong numbers in defiance of the GOP.
From the AP:
Jacob Wohl, 22, and Jack Burkman, 54, each face four felony counts in Detroit, including conspiring to intimidate voters in violation of election law and using a computer to commit crimes, Attorney General Dana Nessel said.
The calls falsely warned residents in majority-Black Detroit and cities in at least four other states that if they vote by mail in the Nov. 3 election they could be subjected to arrest, debt collection and forced vaccination, Nessel said.
Maybe the most important support FOR election fraud came from the Republican Senate, which refused to advance bi-partisan election security bills ahead of the 2020 elections. They argued among other things, it would be imposing on states’ rights. Even so, the party is currently trying to overturn state legislators’ voting changes made due to the pandemic.
Mitch McConnell, as CBS reported in 2019 “…objected to legislation that would have required campaigns and candidates to report offers of election-related aid from foreign governments.”
THESE are all instances of election fraud, and it is Republicans committing it.
Because Republicans know: When voters are able to vote unhindered, they turn out, and when they turn out, Republicans lose.
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SIKTH TO BE JOINED BY DEVIL SOLD HIS SOUL AND PRESS TO MECO ON DECEMBER 2017 TOUR
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SikTh have announced the supports for their December 2017 headline UK tour – they will be joined by the UK’s Devil Sold His Soul (https://www.facebook.com/devilsoldhissoul ) and Press To Meco (https://www.facebook.com/presstomeco ).
SikTh’s Dan Weller enthusiastically comments “Press to Meco are one of my favourite bands in the UK. Amazing songwriters and Luke’s guitar playing is immense. I’m so happy to have them on the road with us”, plus Mikee W Goodman having caught Devil Sold His Soul for the first time this summer when both bands played Arctangent Festival states “I had not seen Devil Sold His Soul until recently at Arctangent, they sounded absolutely awesome and I’m really looking forward to having them on the tour with us and getting to hear more from them.”
SikTh having previously revealed that the London show on 8th December at Koko will see them play their 2006 album ‘Death of a Dead Day’ in full for the first time (announcement by Dan Weller & Mikee Goodman – https://youtu.be/4X2-fxYnG38), Mikee updates fans on what they can expect on the December shows “As people know we are going to play Death of a Dead Day in full in London, we also plan on playing most of the songs on other dates, plus a good few from our new album. We have totally revamped our set for you, it’s going to be interesting as it’ll be the longest set we’ve played!”
SikTh released their latest record, The Future in Whose Eyes? in June this year on new Snapper Music imprint Millennium Night. It was also the first release featuring new co-vocalist and former member of Aliases Joe Rosser and was followed by an explosive set on the main stage at Download Festival. With Death Of A Dead Day being Re-issued by Peaceville last year, it is arguably the band’s most influential record, helping to give birth to the ‘djent’ movement.
SikTh Tour Dates
Sat 2-Dec – Manchester, Academy 3
Sun 3-Dec – Glasgow, Garage
Mon 4-Dec – Birmingham, Institute
Wed 6-Dec – Bristol, SWX
Thu 7-Dec – Brighton, Concorde 2
Fri 8-Dec – London, KOKO
Ticket info: https://www.facebook.com/sikthofficial
Press for ‘The Future in Whose Eyes?’
‘Sikth have again managed to defy expectations completely on their own terms’ Metal Hammer
‘they’re masters of melding melody and intricacy’ Total Guitar Magazine
‘whiteknuckle aural assault’ Prog Magazine
‘”It’s time to step aside because the kings of the genre are back on the throne.’ Punktastic
‘The metal world has been put on notice once again’ Ghost Cult
‘a landmark album, both for the band and quite possibly the British metal scene as well’ Echoes & Dust
“this is really the SikTh album we’ve all been waiting for.” — Metal Sucks
“this record stands on its own legs against the slew of modern metal records that listeners are inundated with on a daily basis, and manages to surpass many of them.” — Metal Injection
SikTh are:
Mikee W Goodman – vocals
Dan Weller – guitar
Dan Foord – drums
James Leach – bass
Pin – guitar
Joe Rosser – Vocals
www.sikth.band
https://www.facebook.com/sikthofficial
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Plates, pfff we don't need no stinking plates. TP9sfl milled for Trijicon RMR
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Plates, pfff we don't need no stinking plates. TP9sfl milled for Trijicon RMR#30371
By GallowayPrecision - Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:27 pm
- Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:27 pm #30371
Our machine shop that makes all of our parts has outdone themselves this time. I present the first TP9SFL milled for the Trijicon RMR/Holosun 507c optics. Instead of doing a plate system we mill to the depth of the rear sight channel, then put inserts in the slide for the optic that you want to mount. No more plate system to deal with, and it will hard mount the optic of your choice instead of relying on a plate system. More parts to something always means more failure points, we've successfully eliminated that.
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Re: Plates, pfff we don't need no stinking plates. TP9sfl milled for Trijicon RMR#30374
By Jester560 - Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:32 pm
"When you come to the fork in the road, take it." -Yogi Berra
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By TL1000RSquid - Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:39 pm
Nice, probably the route I would go over an SFx.
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We can do this to any of them that DON'T have a decocker. We're working on an optic mount for the rear sight channel for the ones we can't mill.
By GlennSFX - Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:48 pm
Looks good...but the only concern would be the unsealed exposed areas under the RMR. You can see the mounting posts for the screws on the sides. Typically the slide is wide enough and has the locating pins up front. I had my P320 slide milled for an RMR, and the slide is wide enough with the milling to accommodate the full width of the optic. I'm not sure if the Trijicon sealing plate would be enough of a base to fully seal it, it's pretty thin.
Just an observation...
I superimposed the milling image on the optic and aligned the mounting posts with the optic mounting holes.
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By deserttrans - Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:19 pm
Yep! A lot of room for water and foreign material to get trapped underneath. A smaller optic might fit better. Thanks for the post and the work on the slide.
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GlennSFX wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:48 pm Looks good...but the only concern would be the unsealed exposed areas under the RMR. You can see the mounting posts for the screws on the sides. Typically the slide is wide enough and has the locating pins up front. I had my P320 slide milled for an RMR, and the slide is wide enough with the milling to accommodate the full width of the optic. I'm not sure if the Trijicon sealing plate would be enough of a base to fully seal it, it's pretty thin.
Electrical tape, been using it on my other pistols before milling was cool. Makes the best gasket for this particular option.
deserttrans wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:19 pm Yep! A lot of room for water and foreign material to get trapped underneath. A smaller optic might fit better. Thanks for the post and the work on the slide.
Where there isn't anything for it to interfere with. That's why we go to the depth we do. Any lower opens the striker pocket, at which point would cause an issue. We've been milling slides for 10 years, well before it was cool. We got you homie.
Also locating pins are a scam and not needed as long as you mill for the optic on size. It's extra machining and cost that has to be passed on to the customer, when you can get an exact fit on the optic cut itself so that the optic can't move.
By Janik - Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:26 pm
Have you looked at the possibility of milling a TP9DA slide for a micro red dot footprint? I'm itching to put a red dot on one of my DA's, but I'm not thrilled with the plate option in the dove tail. But I know the decocker is probably going to cause an issue. Didn't know if it's something you have looked at or considered.
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By GallowayPrecision - Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:43 am
- Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:43 am #30450
Post a picture of yours to remind me, we might be able to make something happen.
By TL1000RSquid - Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:45 am
- Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:45 am #30457
GallowayPrecision wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:42 pm We can do this to any of them that DON'T have a decocker. We're working on an optic mount for the rear sight channel for the ones we can't mill.
Lose the rear sight on the Elite though right? Wish my SA didnt have the stupid decocker or I'd send it to you guys, might contact you soon about milling one of my CZ's or a G21 slide.
By GallowayPrecision - Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:46 am
TL1000RSquid wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:45 am
No, we can put it in front of the rear sight. You'll lose the LCI though.
GallowayPrecision wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:46 am
Oh ok nice, don't care about the LCI.
By GallowayPrecision - Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:51 pm
- Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:51 pm #30510
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NSC 50th Anniversary Symposium
(Palm Beach, Florida)
For Immediate Release October 31, 1997
REMARKS BY SAMUEL R. BERGER
ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT FOR NATIONAL SECURITY AFFAIRS
(As Prepared for Delivery)
I'm delighted to welcome this impressive gathering and to thank you for helping us celebrate the 50th anniversary of the National Security Council.
This, of course is also the 50th anniversary of the Department of Defense, the CIA and the Air Force. DoD held a full-honor ceremony with honor guard, bands and a 19-gun salute. The CIA had a week-long celebration and one of the largest tents ever assembled. The Air Force had a forty-foot long birthday cake. I think it is only appropriate that the NSC commemorate the occasion in a more modest and reflective manner. We have tried to be creative in marking this milestone. After many years of effort, we minted an NSC medallion. And with Hollywood s help, in recent months, National Security Advisors have penetrated popular culture from the conniving self-promoter in the movie "Cont act" to the arrogant egghead who is one of the first to be killed by the terrorists in "Air Force One" to the twisted zealot in "Murder at 1600" who tries to force the President to resign to the self-important drone who is rendered irrel evant by his daredevil staffer in "The Peacemaker." I don t know who was the role model for these characters, but I would point out that each of these movies was in process before I assumed this job.
As you turn the pages of the last fifty years of American foreign policy, from the Korean War to the Cuban Missile Crisis, the opening to China to Camp David, the Helsinki Final Act to the Madrid NATO enlargement summit, Desert Storm to the Dayton Accords, the NSC has been at the heart of debate, decision and action. I m very proud to continue the course that has been blazed so well by an extraordinary group of statesmen. With each new day I hold this job, my admiration for the patience and persistence of my predecessors grows.
Of course, much has changed over the past 50 years in the world in which we live and the way we do our job. Today, I want to talk to you about both as we work to advance our security and our leadership on the threshold of t he 21st century.
Over the last five decades, determined American engagement shaped in part by many of the people in this room built the institutions and sustained the investments that strengthened our security, advanced democracy and ultimately won the Cold War. Today, because of the bipartisan and sustained assault that broke through the East-West barrier, a world of opportunity has opened before us a world where democracy, free markets and peace are embraced with increasing resolution by a growing portion of the world.
But let us have no illusions: This new state of affairs also has brought new challenges for the custodians of foreign policy. In the absence of a unifying enemy abroad, many Americans and the press that sustains public understanding want to focus on problems at home. Decisions that once were measured through the prism of the Soviet threat -- from where and when we intervene to the creation of security alliances to whether and to whom we give foreign assistance -- must now be weighed in a more complex calculus. And the response time indeed, the debate time for decisions of state rapidly is accelerating in an age when even decision makers sometimes learn of key developments at the same moment as the public, from CNN.
In this more complex environment, some long for an overarching axiom that would capture, in one embracive phrase, the essence of America s interests abroad, that would provide the single lodestar for our engagement. Others, with the best of intentions, would define all our relationships abroad around some single value: religious freedom or nonproliferation, arms control or economics.
We must be clear and rigorous about defining America s interests. But let us also be clear that as the world s greatest power, those interests are
wide-ranging, sometimes in tension and occasionally at odds. As we define and pursue our interests in this new world environment, let us not substitute doctrine for values, slogan for judgment or metaphor for analysis. Foreign policy is not the business of writing a blanket prescription. It s the business of making the smartest choices to achieve the strongest results.
Our policy must respond to the complexity of the world we face. Our first obligation, is to try to understand clearly what has changed and what has not; and then, to chart the course that best advances, overall, our values and our interests. Half a century ago, the stewards of America s foreign policy were "present at the creation" of a durable international order. Today, we must pioneer its durable transformation -- making sure that America remains the world s strongest force for peace, prosperity and freedom.
The touchstones of our policy have not and will not change: ensuring that America s diplomacy and military are the best in the world, bar none, even in a budgetary environment that has become increasingly difficult and where the competition for resources is fiercer than ever. As far as I can tell, the passage of time has not repealed either the laws of gravity or the laws of aggression, human nature, or self-aggrandizing nationalism, as the actions of Saddam Hussein this week prove once again. We are working closely with the other members of the UN Security Council to ensure that UN resolutions are fully respected.
America will always be prepared to defend its interests with others when we can and alone when we must. America must always be willing to lead the community of free nations. But these enduring truths must be adapted to new times. And today, our time increasingly is defined by the forces of global integration. Integration is not new in itself, but the pace of change today moves almost exponentially.
The very creation of the NSC was part of America s growing realization that foreign engagement to prevent war mattered. In the wake of the most devastating conflict of all time, we knew our security could no longer be protected by a policy of isolation. We knew that America had a unique ability, and responsibility, to lead.
Today, the United States looks out at the world from the pinnacle of our power. Our economy is booming. Our military is unrivaled. Yet even more than in 1947, America s well-being is tied to the rest of the world. Of all the changes that have sparked this new reality, let me mention three:
One, the fact that no great power is our enemy, but several states with the greatest ability to help or harm our interests are in the midst of profound transitions whose outcomes are not yet known;
Two, the rise of the global economy, which brings us new opportunities for growth, but also makes us more dependent on the prosperity and security of others; and
Three, revolutions in technology and communications that shrink the distance between nations and extend the reach of the values that America holds most dear but which ironically also feed counter-forces of disintegration and destruction terrorists, drug traffickers and organized criminals that disregard national borders.
What must we do to protect our security within this new environment?
First, we must adjust the way we view balances of power. During the Cold War, our interests lay in weakening a single enemy and aligning the forces that opposed it. To be sure, history can repeat itself, but it is not preordained to do so. The march of freedom in recent years is striking but it is not yet secure. We must seize this moment of relative peace to lock in its gains. At this stage, America could be far more threatened by Russia's weakness or China's isolation than from either one's stability and success.
America has led in building a network of institutions and arrangements to consolidate democracy s progress and to fight against its threats. And as nations draw closer, peace grows stronger as each develops a vested interest in helping the other succeed.
In Europe, we are helping the newly free nations develop their market
democracies; forging a constructive partnership with a democratic Russia; and adapting NATO to take on new challenges with new members, new partners and new relationships with Russia and Ukraine.
In the Asia Pacific, we are modernizing our alliance with Japan for the 21st century; working to open markets throughout the region and promote prosperity through the move toward a free trade area; and focusing sharply on the real dangers to peace on the Korean peninsula the Cold War s last armed frontier.
This week s summit between America and China was a milestone. It demonstrated that America could pursue a policy of engagement with integrity advancing our interests without compromising our values. China is home to one-fourth the world's people. We cannot simply turn our backs. By broadening areas of cooperation, such as stopping the spread of nuclear weapons or trying to promote peace in Korea while candidly but respectfully discussing our differences in areas like human rights, publicly and privately, we are charting a course that will define our relations with much of the world for the next generation.
In our own hemisphere, in just the last 15 years, a quiet revolution of democracy and free markets has dramatically transformed Latin America's landscape raising new prospects for partnership between the United States and our neighbors. The bonds of hemispheric cooperation were laid at the Summit of the Americas in Miami; solidified through the Mexican peso crisis and our collective response to Haiti; most recently enhanced in the President's visit to Venezuela, Brazil, and Argentina and will grow even stronger in Santiago this spring as we build on our efforts to make the Americas a mainstay of freedom and prosperity.
We are also reaching out to post-colonial, democratic, market-oriented Africa to help those nations become full partners in the 21st century world. President Clinton will travel there next year.
Our second challenge is to harness the force of the whirlwind global economy maximizing its benefits but mitigating its burdens.
In 1947, trade accounted for ten cents on the dollar of our GDP. Tod ay, it accounts for forty percent; and exports support more than 12 million American jobs. Back then, tremors in foreign financial markets were generally contained within national borders. But as we saw this week, when traders, buyers and investors move billions of dollars around the globe every day, shock waves in Bangkok stock markets are felt as far away as Bonn and Buenos Aires within hours.
The increasing openness of the global economy that has been achieved in recent years through NAFTA, GATT, and hundreds of other trade agreements since 1993, and the internal reforms of nations from Chile to Poland, unquestionably boosts prosperity. But it also creates dislocation sometimes increasing the gap between the haves and have-nots, even as wealth rises overall. The risk is more than social. People who feel only the burdens of globalization will be quick to reject the values of openness it promotes. Ultimately, the backlash can become so strong that democracy itself is endangered.
That is why, even as we pursue a strategy of promoting open markets, we must also work to preserve the social contract on which public cohesion depends.
It would be disastrous for America to try to escape the global economy. We are just 4 percent of the world s population. If we want to maintain our standard of living and continue creating good new jobs, we must keep reaching out to the 96 percent of the world that lives beyond our borders. Over the past four years, more than a third of our growth has been driven by overseas trade. And behind those statistics are thousands of new high-paying jobs for Americans. That is why the fast track authority the President is seeking is so important. The House vote November 7th will be a defining moment.
All of you know the economic arguments for fast track. But it is not just an issue of economics. It s an issue of American engagement in this new world in short, an issue of national security. Like it or not, the rest of the world views fast track as a reflection of whether America intends to live up to our legacy of leadership, or cede the terrain to others.
When this bill comes up in the House on Friday, it truly will be a vote heard round the world.
Consider what could happen if we don t have fast track. American lea dership is not divisible. If we fail to lead on trade, our influence will suffer in other areas important to our security. It will send a signal to emerging markets that America is walking away undermining the developing trend toward free market policies and democracy. It will weaken our relationship with Latin America, as they turn, by our own default, to Europe and Asia damaging our cooperation on issues ranging from drug trafficking to immigration. And in Asia, where America is viewed as a crucial balance wheel of stability, it will call our engagement into doubt with serious repercussions on our interests.
With the strongest, most competitive economy in the world today, what does America have to fear? We can walk down the path of leadership we have held to for 50 years the path that led to half a century of unparalleled prosperity and peace. Or we can walk down the path of isolation shrinking back, turning inward, ceding our leadership to others with the knowledge that isolation in an interdependent world is, more than ever, a path that leads to America's decline. That s the fast track choice we face. It s that stark and that important.
Economic integration and growth in other countries not only advance our prosperity; they also advance peace and stability. It s no accident that in Latin America, for example, the resurgence of economic growth and democracy have developed in tandem. But to secure the roots of often fragile democracies, leaders from Africa to Europe to the Americas are facing a common challenge: The more they can show that democracy delivers, the more likely that democracy will endure.
Even as governments break down barriers to trade, they must equip their people with the education, training and tools to succeed in the global economy. This is true in America, where the rising tide of trade does not lift all the boats the same, and where we must work to ensure that the benefits and burdens of globalization are shared fairly for example, by educating our children and our workforce to join the new economy. And it s true in the developing world as well, where growth without greater equity does not provide the solid foundation in which democracy can endure.
The third 21st century challenge I want to touch on today is our interest in supporting the powerful trends that are bringing nations together, while forging coalitions to fight the threats that actually intensify as the world grows closer.
In 1947, the first TVs were being introduced into American homes. To day, you can tune-in to CNN in more than 200 countries around the world. Then , we still spoke (and sometimes listened) on party lines. Today, with satellites, modems and faxes, millions of voices, images and texts flash around the world every day. Then, the first electronic digital computer was one-year old, weighed 30 tons and occupied an entire 40-by-40 foot room. Today, college students have lap-tops and kids are learning to explore the World Wide Web before they can cross the street.
Undoubtedly, these developments enrich our lives. But the very same technology and openness also can be exploited by organized criminals plotting together from disparate parts of the globe, drug traffickers conspiring to launder their gains or terrorists trying to build lethal weapons with blueprints retrieved off the Internet. These forces do not recognize boundaries or respect na tional sovereignty. Indeed, they possess the resources once reserved only for nation-states. Taken together, they have the power to sabotage nations, as in Colombia. They have the corrupting wealth to eat away at the very foundations of fragile democracies until they crumble. And they have the potential to alter fundamentally our own sense of personal safety and well-being in ways that ultimately could challenge our freedom.
We must see these threats as among the most serious national security challenges of our time. We are greatly strengthening law enforcement and intelligence cooperation with our partners. We are opening FBI offices around the world. Wesekunduve launched intensive international efforts to deprive these outlaws of their ill-gotten gains, to deny safe haven to terrorists, and to shut down the gray markets that sell weapons and false documents. We reached half-way around the world to capture Mir Amal Kansi, accused of murdering CIA employees in Virginia, and Ramsi Yousef, now on trial for the World Trade Center bombing. We've sanctioned states that sponsor terrorism and worked to get our allies to strengthen their support.
We re also strengthening collective action against the spread of dangerous weapons through arms control regimes like the Chemical Weapons Convention, the Nonproliferation Treaty and the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty; toughening the mechanisms to control the spread of technologies, equipment and material; and designing regional approaches to reduce incentives for proliferation.
And, overall, we re making investments today that will reduce danger tomorrow whether helping develop new energy supplies in the Caspian, protecting our critical infrastructure against the threat of cyber-terrorism or taking out an insurance policy on the future with a sensible, sound response to the very real threat of climate change.
The world is different than it was 50 years ago when the NSC was established. Certainly the texture of government and the tools of diplomacy have changed. But the mission is the same: to meet the obligations of American leadership. That means ensuring we have the resources we need to get the job done right. It means ensuring this moment of opportunity isn t squandered by partisan bickering. It means ensuring that even as Congress plays a greater foreign policy role, we resist the trend toward one-issue legislation that threatens to isolate America from its allies instead of securing our place at the core of a new international consensus. I m hopeful that if we work together, we can restore the bipartisan consensus on America s global leadership that has kept our nation strong for 50 years.
The half-century mark is a time for looking back, for taking stock and setting your sights ahead. And as private citizens and public servants, you feel more than ever the sacred charge to leave for future generations an even better world than you enjoyed.
In the preface of his memoirs, Dean Acheson noted, "History is lived forwards but it is written in retrospect. We know the end before we consider the beginning and we can never wholly recapture what it was like to know the beginning only." Today, thanks in part to many in this room, we stand at the beginning of an era more hopeful than any we have ever known before. Fifty years from now, we want our children and theirs to look back on this time and be able to say we laid the basis for a world that is more free, secure, prosperous and healthy than ever in which our interests and ideals are protected, and where America and Americans can thrive.
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Singapore Celebrates its 47 Years of Independence
Posted by Ramon Nuez | Aug 8, 2012 | News | 0
The Lion City, 47 years ago separated from Malaysia and gained its independence to become the Republic of Singapore. And its planning an incredible National Day Parade (NDP) to celebrate.
Singapore has a rich history. The southeast asian city-state can be tracked back to the second century AD, when it was an outpost of the Sumatran Srivijaya Empire. Since the second century Singapore’s history is peppered with key historical events:
1819 — British East India Company developed the southern part of Singapore as a British trading post
1836 — Singapore becomes the capital of the Straits Settlements
1955 — Singapore held its first general election
1963 — Singapore declared its independence from Britain
1965 — Singapore declared its independence from Malaysia
And today Singapore is a thriving economic power. With a population of over 5 million people. Most speak English but you will find that many Singaporeans are bilingual — speaking Mandarin Chinese, Malay, Tamil or Singapore Colloquial English (Singlish).
The Republic of Singapore is made up of 63 islands. And the city-state has become an influential world-power:
the world’s fourth leading financial center
one of the busiest ports in the world
has one of the highest percentages of millionaires in the world
Due to the high volume of urbanization Singapore’s rainforests have suffered. The Bukit Timah Nature Reserve is the only significant remaining forest. But through land reclamation Singapore is adding more land. These land reclamation projects involve merging smaller islands.
As you can see the Lion City has a great deal to be proud of. Over the last 47 years — Singapore has matured into an incredible melting pot of culture and business.
And on August 9th 2012, Colonel Desmond Tan — Chairman of the NDP 2012 Executive Committee (EXCO) — is encouraging all Singaporeans to reflect and express their love for Singapore. This year, Singaporeans will come together at The Float at Marina Bay, to celebrate the countries 47th birthday. The theme for the National Day Parade (NDP) 2012 is “…to love and respect Singapore.”
The National Day Parade will be host to a numbers of events:
Reflection of Our Love
Reflection of Our Spirit
Message from President Tony Tan Keng Yam
A Nations March
And many more exciting events will be taking place throughout the day. There is even a NDP 2012 Theme Song – Love at First Light. Which really sets the tone and capitalizes on Colonel Desmond Tan’s message.
We Are Proud
As many of you have already heard Crowdsourcing Week is now headquartered in Singapore. Our founders thought that Singapore was the perfect place for a start-up to not only grow but flourish.
I am biased.
But our founders — Epirot Ludvik and Rose Kemps — were right, Singapore is a great place to build a company like Crowdsourcing Week.
Happy Birthday Singapore! Here is to another prosperous 47 years.
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Carolina Chamber Music Festival: Calyx and Friends
September 12, 2009 - New Bern, NC:
There was a respectable house, over a hundred people, gathered in the First Baptist Church to hear Calyx and Friends in the second of the five concerts of this season’s Carolina Chamber Music Festival. The evening began with a 25-minute warm-up lecture by Co-Director Anna Reinersman. Billed as a “pre-concert discussion,” it was really a delivery of a stand-up monolog of program notes ranging from "compare and contrast Poulenc, Ravel, and Bartók" to "why we chose the pieces." I found the sound system to be only marginally better than last year, but easier on the listener because the microphone was not being passed around from speaker to speaker. My companion particularly mentioned how helpful these notes were. The monolog format offered no interactive opportunity for Reinersman’s undeniably charming personality to warm up a stolid crowd.
Aficionados of Poulenc know that the Allegro that opens the Clarinet Sonata Op. 184 starts off with a bang. After a suitably fiery start, the clarinet playing of Scott Andrews was delightfully singing, incredibly beautiful. Had it not been so beautiful, one would have easily parodied his strong and varied body movements. Dalcroze would have been proud; I kept waiting for the snake to come out of the basket. But the important point is that his playing is masterful. With my eyes closed and focusing on the music, all was excellent. The Andante cantabile was hard-edged and very expressive. The companion piano part (it would be a complete injustice to call it an accompaniment) came to life under the able fingers of Nina Ferringo, with strong rhythm and a driving tempo.
Maintaining the somewhat blues-y sound of the Poulenc, Ferrigno and Catherine French, violin, performed the middle movement, "Blues," from Maurice Ravel’s second violin sonata (1923-27). French has a fine violin intonation, with crisp and intelligent phrasing, well-complimented by Ferrigno’s long waves of piano sound, enhanced by very skillful pedaling. This long piece gave a strong feeling that this was real chamber music; that we were sitting with them in their living room, placed as they were right in front of the front pews and seated in almost convincing domestic chairs.
The other bookend to the Ravel besides the Poulenc was Béla Bartók’s Contrasts, for clarinet, violin, and piano (1938). This is shockingly modern music compared to the “long-hair” concert fare of our youth; this piece is younger than several acquaintances I recognized in the hall. The dotted rhythm and clarinet cadenza of "Verbunkos" is right on target with Peter and the Wolf, composed two years later. "Pihenö" (with scordatura violin) starts like a simple hoedown with open strings, but soon progresses to a much more complicated but apparently fun-to-play flight of virtuosity. "Sebes" doesn’t really wind down; it just stops.
After intermission we were all abruptly whisked back 60 years by Brahms’s Piano Trio, Opus 87, soothingly old fashioned after the Bartók. What was not soothing was the serious balance problems in this acoustically complicated room. Although Ferrigno’s playing is always precise, with superb accentuation and warmth of feeling, it came off in this concert as far too loud for the other instruments. In the opening Allegro, the lovely cello playing of Jennifer Lucht shone through in the solo lines. In the Andante con moto, the strong marching rhythm carried the piece. The trio played the often nervous music of the Scherzo with precision. The Allegro, more lush than loud, was an excellent exception to the too-loud piano problem, and was a totally satisfying end to a fine evening.
There are further concerts in the Carolina Chamber Music Festival, at 6:00 pm on Thursday (Fauré After Work) and the Festival Finale Concert at 7:30 pm on Saturday. See our Eastern Calendar for details. Judging from the après concert parties on the porch next door to my house, the performers are thoroughly enjoying their vacation in New Bern; New Bern returns the favor, taking equal delight in the presence of the Festival!
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UPDATE 2-European stocks fall in holiday lull, set for best year in a decade
Sagarika Jaisinghani, Lisa Pauline Mattackal
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* German shares fall 0.6%, while Spanish stocks ease 0.9%
* EssilorLuxottica logs biggest daily drop in four weeks
* European shares still set for largest annual rise since 2009 (Updates to close)
Dec 30 (Reuters) - European shares posted their steepest one-day loss in four weeks on Monday as investors cashed in gains from a record run higher that has put the benchmark index on course for its best year since the global financial crisis.
In a holiday-shortened week, the pan-European STOXX 600 index closed 0.9% lower in volumes that were less than a third of the average so far this month. The index is up 24% so far this year, on track for its biggest annual rise since 2009.
A fall on Wall Street saw regional bourses steepen losses as the decline spread to all sectors.
“Volumes are... below average and people are doing as little as possible - a little bit of profit taking and a little bit of window dressing as it’s the year-end,” said Mirabaud sales trader Mark Taylor.
Industrials and other defensive sectors such as healthcare led losses, while banks, one of the major underperformers for the year, lost the least.
Frankfurt shares fell more than half a percent, while those in France, Italy and Spain dropped around 1% each. London-listed shares dipped 0.8%.
White House trade adviser Peter Navarro’s comments on Monday that the U.S.-China Phase 1 trade deal would likely be signed next week failed to cheer investors as they await confirmation from U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer or President Donald Trump.
After somewhat choppy trading earlier in the year, European equities have enjoyed a strong December as investors received clarity on two of the major risks to global economic growth - the U.S.-China trade war and Brexit.
Fairly upbeat economic data from around the world has also eased recession fears, with latest figures showing Spain’s economy growing 0.4% in the third quarter, in line with a flash estimate.
In corporate news, spectacles group EssilorLuxottica shed 3.1%, its largest daily drop in four weeks, after saying it had discovered fraudulent activity at a plant in Thailand that was expected to cost it 190 million euros ($213 million).
Among other individual stocks, Swiss lender Cembra fell 3.8%, the most on the STOXX 600 and its biggest one-day fall in more than two months, after gaining nearly 3% over the last three sessions.
Looking ahead to 2020, David Madden, a market analyst at CMC Markets, sees the travel sector being held back, with rising fuel costs being one of the factors. (Reporting by Sagarika Jaisinghani, Lisa Pauline Mattackal and Susan Mathew in Bengaluru; Editing by Anil D’Silva and Jan Harvey)
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US STOCKS-Dow closes above 29,000 after China and U.S. sign trade truce
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* Target shares slump as holiday sales miss
* UnitedHealth rises after backing full-year forecast
* Indexes: Dow +0.31%, S&P 500 +0.19%, Nasdaq +0.08% (Adds graphic on trade war and S&P 500)
Jan 15 (Reuters) - The Dow ended above 29,000 for the first time on Wednesday and the S&P 500 also closed at a record high after the United States and China signed a Phase 1 trade agreement and pledged to resolve a tariff dispute that has roiled Wall Street for over a year.
The centerpiece of the truce is a pledge by China to purchase at least an additional $200 billion worth of U.S. farm products and other goods and services over two years, over a baseline of $186 billion in purchases in 2017.
The trade agreement clears the way for investors to focus on upcoming quarterly earnings reports, including the outlooks companies provide in light of the deal.
“There’s no question from a psychological viewpoint it’s a big relief for the market,” said Peter Cardillo, chief market economist at Spartan Capital Securities in New York. “There are still CEOs that are dubious, but this might help capital investments, and that was the biggest missing link to the economy over the last few years.”
Trump said he would remove all U.S. tariffs on Chinese imports as soon as the two countries complete a Phase 2 trade agreement, on which negotiations will start soon.
“I am sure as people dissect (the agreement), there is going to be criticism of it - it’s not doing enough, or it’s not doing this, or whatever. But the market, had it not gotten signed ... would have reacted negatively,” said Chuck Carlson, chief executive of Horizon Investment Services in Hammond, Indiana.
The three main stock indexes gave up earlier intraday record highs, with disappointing earnings reports from Bank of America pushing the S&P financial index down 0.55%.
Bank of America Corp reported a better-than-expected quarterly profit, but warned of weak net interest income in the first half of 2020, knocking its shares down 1.8%.
Goldman Sachs Group Inc slipped 0.2% after reporting a bigger-than-expected fall in profit as it set aside more money to cover legal costs.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 0.31% to 29,030.22 points, ending above 29,000 for the first time.
The S&P 500 gained 0.19% to 3,289.3, its highest ever close.
The Nasdaq Composite added 0.08% to 9,258.70, just short of its record high close set on Monday.
UnitedHealth Group Inc, the largest U.S. health insurer, rose 2.8% as it affirmed its full-year outlook for 2020 adjusted earnings. The S&P healthcare index climbed 1.0%.
Retailer Target Corp slumped 6.6% after it missed its own expectations for 2019 holiday season sales after reporting a drop in online growth and demand for toys and electronics.
Toymakers Mattel Inc and Hasbro Inc fell 4.6% and 2.1%, respectively, while electronics seller Best Buy dropped 1.7%.
Advancing issues outnumbered declining ones on the NYSE by a 1.35-to-1 ratio; on Nasdaq, a 1.31-to-1 ratio favored advancers.
The S&P 500 posted 74 new 52-week highs and no new lows; the Nasdaq Composite recorded 151 new highs and 20 new lows.
Volume on U.S. exchanges was 7.3 billion shares, compared with an average of 7.0 billion shares over the last 20 trading days.
Additional reporting by Sruthi Shankar and Susan Mathew in Bengaluru; Editing by Bernadette Baum and Jonathan Oatis
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How Using State Diagrams Can Make You a Better Web Coder
by Raj Dash 9 Jun 2008
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One tool that should be in your web coding arsenal is the state diagram. A state diagram shows the various "states" (reactions) that your application (e.g., web site) can be in, as well as what action or input (from the user) is necessary to get to a specific state. A state diagram helps to make concrete in your mind all of the possible user/application interactions. This increases the chances that you'll at least consider coding for all possibilities simply because you now know them all - which reduces the chances that you have buggy code or worse, forgot to handle specific functionality.
Why Use a State Diagram?
A state diagram consists of two components: circles to represent states (application reactions/ output) and arrows to represent transitions (user actions/ input). State diagrams are very handy for complex and not so complex computer applications of any sort. However, when it comes to website development, state diagrams are not always of use:
If you have a static website where the navigation guarantees that every single page links to every other page, then a state diagram is redundant. (In the branch of mathematics called Graph Theory, this situation is known as a "fully connected graph". A graph is a set of edges and nodes - i.e., transitions and states.)
If you have a dynamic website running on a CMS (Content Management System) - which includes blog platforms - then so much of the state transitions are already coded into your site. So once again, a state diagram is not of much use.
On the other hand, if you are building a website where you have to handle special transitions, then a state diagram can be of great benefit:
Handling special user input, where what they select decides the next state. (E.g., forms or menus that have drop-down or dynamic lists.)
AJAX-y sites where even after a significant user action, the URL does not change. (Content does, URL doesn't.)
How Do You Create State Diagrams?
The surprising thing is that state diagrams are not all that complicated to produce. Yet in my experience, they are not used all that often by most programmers, despite the benefits (deeper understanding of user interactions; cohesion of coding effort). I swear by them - or did when I was coding every day in various jobs.
It's recommended that you do produce state diagrams on paper first, then transfer them to a digital copy if and only if that's necessary. (There's something about the tactility of sketching input/display relationships on paper that makes them more concrete in your mind, making it easier to accomodate all possible interactions and thus reduce bugs in your applications.)
A state diagram consists of:
Labeled arrow lines to show user input/action (transition).
Labeled circles to show the resulting display of content (application state).
Start state with a double-border circle.
End states (but not when the application is web-based. See below for an explanation.)
You can see a simple example directly below - which will be expanded on later in this article:
Here are the steps for creating state diagrams (with a leaning towards website-based applications):
Make a list of all possible inputs by the application user, from every single state.
Draw the Start state - a double-border circle labeled with "S". With a web site, the start state is the home page and its default display.
Draw circles for possible unique state or sub-state. For static sites, each web page is a separate state. If for your web app can have different sub-states for the same URL, then you need to draw separate state circles.
For each possible action from the start state, draw labeled arrows (transitions) to the next possible state's circle.
Repeat this from each state until you have a full state diagram for the application.
Don't forget about circular transitions. E.g., from one state back to itself (possibly because of re-clicking the same link twice).
Repetitive transitions from a cluster of related states can be represented with some short form, as will be discussed below.
State diagrams for non-Web applications almost always have an "End" state. However, the Web is said to be "stateless" because in a web browser, every single state is an end state. You can take an action and leave, or take another action and then leave, etc. So for web applications, there's no need to draw the End state.
To expand on #7 above, keep in mind that with websites, there could be a lot of repetition of actions. For example if every page includes the same navigation menu, there's no need to show those transitions over and over and clutter up the state diagram. Just represent clustered actions with some short-form notation/ symbol.
(It's far easier to understand a state diagram if you are the person drawing it, one step at a time. If you are a person looking at a completed state diagram, it might be intimidating. For this reason, state diagrams often live only paper - assuming you use them.
How Do State Diagrams Apply to Website-based Applications?
For a static website that uses no AJAX-y features (i.e., any feature where the URL does not change), a state diagram is fairly easy to produce but generally unnecessary. For example, a static website in which every page is connected to every other page results in a state diagram that is sometimes referred to as a "fully-connected" graph. Such state diagrams are usually pointless because there's no special handling to visualize. Every state is connected to every other state)
Where state diagrams are most handy is for dynamic sites - especiall those with AJAX-y features (such as drop menus, sliders, accordions, galleries, etc.). In the latter case, the URL in the browser might not change but the page content does so partially. It's harder to visualize all possible states and transitions (actions) because a "page" can have multiples sub-states.
A state diagram (or set of increasingly detailed diagrams) comes in very handy in this case - especially if there are a team of coders (and sometimes designers) to work with.
An Example of State Diagram Use
In an upcoming tutorial I'm going to show you how to code the jQuery for two effects I'm using in my AboutMe template. The live page has a few CSS glitches that need to be ironed out first. I'd also like to add some more jQuery-based features if there's enough time. These additional features will be the subject of our example.
In the future, this template will turn into a free WordPress theme aimed at freelancers that want to showcase their work (gigs) experience. For now, I want to show how state diagrams can help you understand the necessary cause/reactions (aka input/transitions) for the "Current Gigs" gallery seen above. Understanding the necessary transitions helps you to code more confidently, and it's all coding language-independent. So you can decide on code library/language after creating the state diagram.
Desired Application Features
If you look at the "Current Gigs" gallery at the center left of the image above, or on the live page, you'll see that this is essentially the same concept as an image gallery. Click a link and details of that "gig" will appear. However, when I built the live page, there were no jQuery tutorials on how to throw text into the mix, for each "frame" of the showcase. I had to come up with my own code.
To do that, I had to first understand all possible user interactions. A state diagram is ideal for this. Let's up the ante, though. What I really wanted is a showcase area that shows both Current Gigs and Past Gigs. It's sort of like a visual C.V. (Curriculum Vitae, aka "resume"), showing a gallery of work experience. Each gig's frame contains a screen snap of the associated site's home page, along with some text giving details of the work I did/ am doing there.
For now, the page only has "Current Gigs", but should have "Past Gigs" as well. Here is a list of the functional requirements for what the showcase area should have:
Tabbed jQuery interface, but "invisible". Instead of using regular tabs, use mini-banners similar to the "Current Gigs" graphic.
When a "tab" is clicked (Current Gigs, Past Gigs), the appropriate gig list is shown, along with the frame (details) of the first item.
The default showcase is "Current Gigs".
When someone clicks "Past Gigs", then the past gigs list must show, along with the details frame of the first item in that list.
Gigs lists. Each "tab" will provide a list of gigs positioned to the left using a Blueprint CSS grid.
The gig list items will be text links.
Each showcase will have entirely different links (past and present work). So a "job experience" can only appear in one showcase at a time.
When an item in a gig list is clicked, the gig's details "frame" will appear. Each frame will show a screen snap (previously saved) and the associated job description. The Blueprint CSS grid framework will be used to position the showcase elements. (This isn't necessary, but that's what I'm aiming for.)
So to reiterate, the goal is to have a tabbed interface where the tabs are labelled "Current Gigs" and "Past Gigs". This allows for more tabs later, limited only by the width of each label and the width of the showcase space (590 pixels). But I want the tabs to be "invisible", as mentioned. Instead of the typical tabs in a tab interface, I want to use mini-banners. If you look at the live test page, there's a mini-banner labeled "Current Gigs", and another labeled "Past Gigs". Those will be the tabs. Here is a closeup screen snap of what the final showcase area might look like, with default settings.
Creating the State Diagram
To create the state diagram, we first have to enumerate every possible unique state, input and action:
Start state: Upon load of the home page:
Hide (non-display) all gig frames using CSS.
Present "Current Gigs" showcase as default.
Within the default showcase, present the frame for the 1st item in gig list as the default. So whenever someone clicks the Current Gigs "tab", the showcase will reset itself.
Possible generic actions from the Start state:
Click on "tab". Reaction/ transition: render the showcase corresponding to the tab clicked.
Click on a gig list item. Reaction/ transition: render the corresponding gig item frame.
Possible generic actions from other states: exactly the same. We're fortunate in this case, because this makes the state diagram so much simpler.
Note: At this point, we're only concerned with what's happening in the C.V. showcase. In the state diagram, we don't care about actions that affect other parts of the web page. We're only showing actions/ reactions that affect the C.V. showcase.
Here is a sample state diagram for the above functionality.
A few notes about this diagram:
For the purposes of this discussion, it's not all that important what each label actually is. Here, each one represents a website that I am either writing for now or used to write for.
It's not as complicated as it looks. Just focus on one transition at a time and it'll be clear what's going on. [Here, the action labels are the same as the state labels. That's not always the case.] It's usually a lot clearer when you draw the diagram yourself, adding new state circles and transition arrows one at a time.
Transitions, aka user actions, are represented by labelled arrows. (Normally the labels would be full text, not the short forms used here.)
States, aka reactions, are represented by circles. The start state is always marked with a double circle and an "S".
Short forms are used for both types of labels, to keep the diagram less cluttered.
The states and sub-states are color-coded based on whether they are primary or secondary in nature. For example, blue represents primary states (and transitions). You can go from Start state to any blue state with a single click on the appropriate link. You cannot go to a purple (secondary) state from Start without first passing through a primary state.
Because there is a lot of repetitive transition (i.e., from any gig item to another), groups of transitions are shown with one of the thick outlined arrows (blue or purple fill). For example, while you're viewing the FF (FreelanceFolder) gig details, you can click on any of the gig items listed for the CG (Current Gigs) showcase, including FF itself. Or you can click on the CG "tab" and reset the showcase. You cannot go from a "current" gig frame to a "past" gig frame, nor vice versa.
The short, outlined blue arrow includes transitions back to CG's default state. The short, outlined purple arrow does not include transitions back to PG's default state. (That's because those transitions are already shown explicitly. They were not for CG because the diagram would be way too cluttered.)
Expanding on point #5 above, the rule of thumb is that if there are multiple repetitive transitions from a related cluster of states, you can annotate the transitions with some sort of short form. You simply want to get a sense of the important transitions so that they are foremost in your mind. Another approach is to take a complex diagram and split into parts: main overview, then "exploded" versions of transition clusters.
For example, the diagram above could have had a main state diagram containing the nodes S, CG and PG. Then there would be two detailed diagrams. One would have S, CG, and the corresponding sub-states representing various gigs. The other detailed diagram would have S, PG, and the corresponding gig sub-states.
Overall, you should now have a clearer mental picture of how the showcase section functions. I'm not going to get into how to move from a state diagram to actual code. That should become evident once you understand all the user interactions. State diagrams - and your understanding of them should help you to write more cohesive code, reducing the chances of a buggy application. Your coding technique does not change.
Raj Dash
Raj Dash is a multi-blogger, math/computer geek, cook, composer, philosopher, former search engine webmaster, former publisher/editor, and published writer and author. You can find his hubsite at Chameleon Integration, which will lead you directly or indirectly to some of his active blogs and zomblogs.
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INDIA People Against Modi’s Move To Create Hindu India A letter from Nambiath Vasudevan
Posted on 2020-01-13 in India
A letter from Nambiath Vasudevan, trade unionist in Mumbai (India),
coordinator of the International Workers Committee against war and exploitation, for a workers international (IWC ).
Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s hindu right wing government passed a Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) in parliament on December 11 denying citizenship to Muslim immigrants living in India. Using CAA Modi government plans to create a National Population Register (NPR) and later National Register of Citizens (NRC) in a calculated manner to exclude Muslims. People belonging to all religions, students, teachers, youth, lawyers, doctors, scientists, artists are in the streets opposing CAA, NPR and NRC demanding the withdrawal of government move to discriminate citizens based on religion.
Immediate effect of the CAA and NRC will be felt in the north eastern state of India, Assam. People of Assam and neighbouring areas have opposed the new law and the opposition protest led to police firing when two deaths were reported and several injured and large number of people were arrested. Government imposed curfew and armed forces are brought to contain protests.
The eastern state of Assam is on the border of Bangladesh. There are many Hindu and Muslim Bangladeshis in Assam as also in many parts of India. Besides Bangladeshis in Assam and elsewhere, in India there are migrants from Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bhutan and Tibet. In 1971 East Pakistan became Bangladesh.
At a time when Bangladeshis revolted against the military crackdown in East Pakistan in the beginning of 1970s, India had allowed Bangladeshis to cross over to the Indian territory. After the creation of Bangladesh in 1971 many Bangladeshis continued to live in India and many more came thereafter and settled within India. Apart from Bangladeshi migrants Bengalis from India’s West Bengal also settled in Assam. Indigenous Assamese resented the swelling of Bengalis and other outsiders in Assam. Violent agitations took place in Assam to protect the local Assamese language and their indigenous cultural identity. The agitation ended when an agreement was reached to identify the non-Assames. As per a decision of the Supreme Court of India a National Register of Citizens (NRC) was prepared.
After a lengthy process the NRC revealed there were 1.9 million people who did not have required documents to prove they were Indian citizens. Out of this 1.9 million 1.5 million turned out to be Hindus. Hindus were BJP’s vote base. Thus, deporting 1.5 million Hindus from Assam was politically suicidal for the Modi government. Hence, in a clever move, on December 11, BJP bulldozed the parliament resulting in Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) coming into force which act would legitimize Hindus’ right to Indian citizenship and denying citizenship right to Muslims. Such religious discrimination is not permissible under the constitution. But, in order to justify the majoritarian supremacy in parliament, the BJP argued that Hindus who crossed border to India were the persecuted minority in Muslim ruled Bangladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan and they had sought asylum in India because of such persecution.
It is India’s duty and obligation to grant citizenship to migrant Hindus, BJP claimed. No evidence was produced to establish whether Hindus were persecuted in the countries from where they came to India and whether they sought asylum on the ground of persecution. Strangely, those born in India were definitely not persecuted. Afghanistan does not even share a border with India. Yet non-Muslims who migrated from Afghanistan would be eligible for Indian citizenship under the new CAA. That raised the question, if persecution was the only criterion for according Indian citizenship, why persecuted Muslims cannot be granted citizenship in India. India did not accept Monghyars from Myanmar. What is still worse, in the amended law there is no provision for citizenship to Hindus settled in India from Sri Lanka. In Sri Lanka Hindus are a minority. The discrimination in the matter of citizenship has angered people throughout the country.
Stateless citizens would be dumped in detention camps. In Assam detention camps are already in operation. BJP has allocated funds to create detention camps in other states too. This too has angered people.
People still remember the world’s largest exodus that took place in 1947 when British imperialists divided India in 1947 into India and Pakistan when they had to wind up their colonial rule after 250 years . The division on religious lines had left scars and Kashmir continued to be a disputed issue ever since. A free India adopted a constitution in 1949 and chose to be a sovereign democratic, secular, socialist republic. BJP’s parent organisation, RSS (Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh), never accepted the basic tenets of India’s constitution and considered secularism and socialism as alien to India’s ethos. India has 200 million Muslims living in different parts of the country in harmony.
People have come out in the streets throughout India against CAA, NPR and NCR. The government led by Prime Minister Narendra Modi is in confrontation with the people across the country.
The anger is not limited to the amendment in the citizenship act. CAA is just a trigger. The simmering discontent was evident from the time of demonetization in 2016 and even before. India has been in the grip of imperialist globalisation since 1990 and is a victim of volatile global financial and trade vulnerabilities. Life of common man was always neglected. Less than 5% of the 1.3 billion reaped the benefits of capitalist development agenda implemented by Modi and previous regimes. India’s corporate bosses decided in 2014 to back Modi’s Prime Ministership and they projected him as a model for development, to end political corruption, bring about industrial growth as per the plan drawn up by the capitalists, to take bold steps in acquiring land for industry and reform labour laws, give push to privatisation, end public sector domination in defence, banks, insurance, transport, so on and so forth. Modi thundered in 2014 that he has a 56 inch chest to create a new India and carry 1.30 billion people for a better tomorrow. With the liberal financial support extended to Modi by the corporate houses, BJP won election and assumed power.
From the time BJP came to control the government in 2014, they implemented a series of sinister moves in a calculated manner fulfilling the demands of the corporate bosses on the one hand and concentrating attacks on Muslims and depicting all those opposed BJP policies as anti nationals. Climate of intolerance and fear psychosis came to occupy prime political space. Hate against Muslims was in evidence. Indian Muslims were blamed for 1947 division of India, Kashmir imbroglio, disturbance at India’s border with Pakistan, terrorism everywhere in all is manifestations.
Beef eating was banned in many BJP ruled states. Banning cow trade was projected as a big achievement. Muslims were lynched alleging they smuggled cows for slaughter and beef was found in their possession. BJP arrogated to itself as the only party defending nationalism and patriotism in India. The mass media controlled by the corporates sang virtues of Modi. Any criticism of the ruling dispensation came under severe attack. Just before the general election in 2019 Modi had boasted about surgical strikes against Pakistan and several BJP leaders vowed to retake Pakistan occupied Kashmir and make it a part of India.
In the second term of Modi rule, in 2019, economic parameters further worsened. Unemployment rate stood at higher than what it was 45 years ago. GDP growth from 8% in 2014 has dropped to less than 5%. Senseless sudden and overnight demonetisation resorted to by Modi government whereby 85% of currency notes in circulation in November 2016 became invalid and thoughtlessly introduced one nation one tax, General Goods and Service Tax (GST) have played havoc with the economy. These steps resulted in ruining many industries and more than 20 million jobs were lost. People suffered and more than 106 died due to demonetisation cues in front of banks. Sadly, the government has always been in a denial mode despite their own economists and financial experts declaring the dangers ahead.
In 2014 Modi received support from middle class and young voters who were fed up with a plethora of financial scams prevailing then. Modi assured jobs to one and all and offered to bring back black money stacked in Swiss banks and remit 1.5 million lakh rupees (20,000 euros) to every Indian’s account. During 5 year rule people experienced Jobless growth and price rise on the one hand and the poisonus hate political atmosphere created by Modi clique which alienated the younger generation who backed Modi earlier. Modi government has no answer to peoples’ demands for jobs, social welfare, better health, education. Routinely Modi spoke about his determination to teach Pakistan a lesson, indulged in tasteless theatrics branding all his critics as anti nationals and supporters of terrorism. Modi and BJP rejected Nehru legacy and always praised Mahatma Gandhi and some other national icons. But when one BJP member of parliament euolgised Gandhi killer as patriot recently while speaking in parliament Modi remained silent.
With a view to divert attention from major live issues affecting people, Modi government in August this year ended the special status enjoyed by Kashmir since 1947 and bifurcated Kashmir State into three parts and imposed complete communication ban on Kashmiri people. Kashmir is a muslim majority state and Modi government took this calculated decision with an eye on Hindu votes in other parts of the country. Political leaders of all hues and activists in Kashmir were thrown into detention camps. Even after five months Kashmir continues under military control.
Muslims received another blow when Triple talaq was made a criminal act. This legislation was passed under the pretext of liberating muslim women from the inhuman system of divorce but the real aim was to project Muslim men as criminals and punish them. In reality a miniscule number of muslims married thrice and indulged in Triple talaq.
It was BJP’s long standing agenda to build a temple for Hindu god Ram perceived to have born at a place in Ayodhya where a mosque stood for 500 years. Hindu fanatics demolished Babri mosque in 1992. Recently the Supreme Court of India ruled that the land belonging to Babri mosque should be given to Hindus to build Ram temple and Muslims are entitled to alternate land in the vicinity. This decision too boosted BJP arrogance.
All the above developments took place after June 2019. The abrogation of Article 370 of the Indian constitution pertaining to Kashmir and the prolonged locked down there including the incarceration of all opposition leaders did not go well with people opposed to BJP. While the people of Kashmir were denied every right to decide their destiny, Modi government bulldozed all criticism and claimed that Kashmir has been liberated from anti national forces.
Coupled with the above, the government decided to attack university students critical of the government policies. For the last two months students in the universities in Delhi were opposing steep hike in fees and other facilities. They were up in arms against the high handed approach of university authorities. During the first five year term of Modi government, RSS managed to place their followers to control the administration of educational institutions and their henchmen were appointed as Vice Chancellors and administrators. BJP’s efforts to control Delhi students unions failed. Students elected councils packed with those opposed to RSS ideology. Students opposed the RSS understanding that ancient India had planes, televisions and technical supremacy. Many who supported BJP began to feel that Modi government was taking Indiay backward. The government took measures to rewrite history claiming India’s ancient past has provided answers to the new generation’s problems. New generation rejected this.
Students in the elite Indian educational institutes were opposing Kashmir lock down. Jawaharlal Nehru University, Delhi, turned out to be the chosen one for Modi assault. Students intensified their protest. On December 15 Delhi’s Jamia Millia Islamiya University students were protesting against the authorities. To control the protest Delhi Police (Delhi police is under the direct control of Modi government) entered hostels and library of Jamia university and brutally attacked girl and boy students. Entering the college premises by the police without permission from the college authorities is strictly prohibited. Many students were injured. They were to be hospitalised. The news of police brutality spread. Students from Jamia and other Delhi universities came out in the streets and clashed with the police. December 15 found a full night agitation at Jamia gates in Delhi. Public in the surrounding areas and parents joined the agitation. Several were injured in police firing. Agitation of students against police atrocity soon sread to other universities. This agitation got linked up with the Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA).
The agitation against CAA, NPR and NCR gathered momentum in Kolkata. The Chief Minister of the state of West Bengal led the protests where hundreds of thousands marched in the streets.
From December 15 India against CAA has changed the political landscape of India. Uttar Pradesh (UP) is the largest state in India. It is a BJP ruled state. The state’s Chief Minister, a Hindu priest, openly declared that every protester will be punished. In the police firing in different parts of UP 19 people have been killed so far. More than 70 have been badly injured. 7000 people are detained. The government, acting with vengeance, has decided to impose summary punishment to protesters, confiscate their property apart from levying on them huge fines alleging they were responsible for burning vehicles and buidings belong to the government. BJP ruled states are brutally attacking peaceful demonstrators.
In Karnataka (BJP ruled state in South India) 2 deaths occurred in police firing. Protest has become a daily feature in several towns and cities including Bangalore.
Against such brutality people in their thousands are in the street in Delhi, Kolkata, Mumbai, Chennai, Bangalore and in every city and town throughout India. In the forefront of the protest everywhere are students and youth belonging to Hindus and Muslims. They have raised their voice to protect democracy, secularism and the plural culture of India. Millions of citizens irrespective of their age, religion and caste have joined the mass upsurge against Modi government – NO CAA,NO NPR, NO NCR. Slogans are against facism, majoritarian rule. General political orientation of the protest is left leaning as Rightist forces are in power.
The government has branded protesters as apologists to Congress and supporters of Maoists, branded the leftists as Urban Naxals. A number of activists and independent thinkers were arrested and jailed under draconian laws.
BJP has called upon its followers to hold pro CAA demonstrations. Simultaneous anti-CAA and pro-CAA demonstrations are taking place throughout India. In Mumbai Anti-CAA protest on December 27 found over 30,000 people. This was held in a ground near the city centre. BJP held a pro CAA rally on December 27 in Mumbai led by former Chief Minister of Maharashtra in another ground 2 kilometer away. According to police report BJP rally had 6000 people. On August 19 Mumbai witnessed unique protest action of several thousands. Protests continue every day resembling such protests in Chile, Hong Kong, Baghdad, Lebanon.
No law in India can be implemented without the cooperation of the state governments. States of Kerala, West Bengal, Rajasthan, Punjab, Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh, Maharashtra, Bihar, Orissa and many others which have non-BJP governments have announced their non-cooperation in the implementation of Federal government decisions discriminating against Muslims. This would mean CAA, NPR and CNR would remain in statute book. NPR is essential for census 2021. India holds census every 10 years. But the present NPR format has asked for information which would damage the citizenship rights of Hindus and Muslims alike, hence it is rejected by the people and the state governments. In other words the census itself would not take place if the federal government stuck to its present adamant stand.
Barring BJP all political parties are opposed to CAA, NPR and NCR. From January 1 to 8 there would be nation wide protest actions called for by the political parties. This would involve rural as well as urban population throughout the length and breadth of the country. On January 8 trade unions have decided to organise strike by workers in all sectors. CAA, NPR, and NCR have become national issues. In Mumbai, erstwhile BJP ally, Shiv Sena, too is gearing up to make January 8 strike a complete show of strength. Maharashtra state government is headed by the Shiv Sena supremo and coalition partners are two wings of the Congress.
Some months ago TIME magazine cover described Modi as a great DIVIDER. Modi has proved TIME cover story right. People in India are opposing division of the country based on religion. It is going to be a long drawn out battle.
Nambiath Vasudevan
CHINA/HONG-KONG « The severe attack against the resistant force will accumulate the anger of the society » — Chan Ka Wai, Executive Director, Labour Action China, Hong Kong
THAILAND “The people want a political reform, and the first step is to oust the military junta”
BURUNDI A census? The working class has no ethnicity
UNITED STATES A massive repudiation of Trump… which makes independent workers’ politics more necessary than ever…
BOLIVIA “A Genuine Victory of the People” — Interview with a Bolivian Labour Activist from El Alto about the Meaning of the October 18 Presidential Election
BELARUS « The outcome of the struggle against the dictatorship depends on the working class » — Interview with a member of the strike committee of the Remontajstroy plant in the city of Soligorsk
NIGERIA Popular uprising against police brutality and oppression
INDIA «This was the biggest failure of the right wing Modi Government during the pandemic» Interview With Milind Ranade
BURUNDI A new phase of the war and an escalation of arrests
AFGHANISTAN Human rights and NATO’s double standards
MAURITIUS A Historical Mass Gathering
UNITED STATES « It’s impossible to put an end to racism without fighting to end capitalism »
PERU Solidarity with the workers at BSH Electrodomesticos S.A.C.
UNITED STATES “There is a strong need for independent politics” An interview with Clarence Thomas, former Secretary Treasurer of the International Longshore and Warehouse Union Local 10, on the West Coast of the United States
CHINA/HONG KONG New threats against the democratic rights of workers An interview with Cho Ming Lam, labour activist
Black Lives Matter! An editorial of La Tribune des travailleurs (Workers’ Tribune) by Daniel Gluckstein
USA-GERMANY Amazon : Stop firing ! Start listening!
MEXICO Susana Prieto Terrazas arrested!
INDIA May 22 : Nation wide protest, by Nambiath Vasudevan
FRANCE An appeal by the National Bureau of the POID (Democratic Independent Workers Party) Prevent the threatening disaster
MAY DAY More than 13,000 participants at the International Rally on May 1st, at the initiative of the IWC: « Three hours for the Workers’ International »
CHINA / Hong Kong Lee Cheuk-yan, Chinese trade union leader, summoned to court! Declaration of the China Inquiry Commission
PAKISTAN Message of condolence from All Pakistan Trade Union Federation
UNITED STATES “We need conferences like this to unite our struggles”
FRANCE Wage war on the epidemic, give oneself the means to do so Statement by the Independent and Democratic Workers Party (POID)
INDIA After the anti-muslims pogroms N. Vasudevan calls on the « mobilisation of the labour movement » in order to impose a « fair enquiry that will reveal the truth »
INDIA Modi’s government bears responsibility for anti-Muslims pogroms (correspondence received from Nambiath Vasudevan)
CHINA/HONG KONG General Secretary of the Hong Kong Confederation of Trade Unions (HKCTU), Lee Cheuk-yan arrested for questioning — Communiqué of the China Inquiry Commission
PAKISTAN The All Pakistan Trade Union Federation (APTUF) presents its platform for struggle
Международный комитет «За свободу фигурантов дела « Сети » (Россия)!»
International Committee “Free the activists convicted in the “Network” case (Russia)!”
HONG KONG / CHINA “100 New Trade Unions have been created”
TURKEY Call for solidarity with BODE‑DOĞRUSAN workers
Invitation for a European Workers’ and Youth Meeting in defence of pension systems, jobs and public services
INDIA “Are We Citizens In Our Own Country? Come Out and Fight to Stop the CAA, NPR and NRC!”
ALGERIA Communiqué of the IWC Coordinators
CHINA “They Have Been Slow to Manage the Crisis, but Quick to Silence the People”
INDIA Protest against CAA in India — From Nambiath Vasudevan, coordinator of the International Workers Committee against war and exploitation, for a workers International (IWC)
UNITED STATES The following interview with Ajamu Baraka, national organizer of Black Alliance for Peace, was conducted on January 26, by Alan Benjamin, editorial board member of The Organizer newspaper.
UNITED STATES «The American People Refuse To Go To War!» Interview with Nancy Wohlforth, Co-Convener of US Labor Against the War (USLAW)
CHILE Stop the repression of secondary school students and the main leaders of the ACES (Coordinating Assembly of Secondary school Students) by the Chilean government!
AUSTRALIA Fires In Australia
UNITED STATES Message to Congress: Vote ‘NO’ on NAFTA 2.0! A Comprehensive Replacement Is Required!
CHILE Democracy and Dictatorship Face to Face
INDIA No Anaj Mandi again! Nation wide strike on January 8, 2020 demanding justice for workers and labour rights
AFRICA African Forum On The Global Convergence Of Farmers Land, Water And Seed Struggles – West Africa (CGLTE-AO)
IRELAND A victory against zero-hour contracts: a point of support in the fight against exploitation
FRANCE A strike has begun this 5th of December in France A class issue and a civilisation issue
CHILE “It’s not about 30 pesos, it’s about 30 years”
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Colombia arrest FARC guerrilla close to ‘Alfonso Cano’
by Kirsten Begg July 29, 2010
Colombian authorities arrested Luis Fernando Mendez, alias “Didier,” who was one of the guerrillas that made up FARC leader “Alfonso Cano’s” security ring.
Didier was arrested in the southern Colombian department of Huila and transfered to Colombia’s capital city Bogota.
The FARC guerrilla had reportedly taken over the leadership of Alfonso Cano’s security ring after alias “Araceli,” who previously held the role, was arrested several weeks ago in the Cauca department.
The Colombian army is carrying out several offensives in the mountainous area on the border of the Tolima and Cauca departments in an effort to locate the FARC’s number one.
Alfonso CanoFARC
Painful start of 2021 for Colombia’s former FARC guerrillas
US embassy took part in DEA plot to discredit Colombia’s war crimes tribunal
FARC reveals details of 1995 assassination of legendary conservative leader
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New US ambassador to Bogota seeks improved relations with Venezuela
by Pandora Pugsley June 29, 2010
Improving relations between Caracas and Bogota is top of the agenda for the new U.S ambassador for Colombia, Michael McKinley.
The diplomat said during a hearing at the Commitee for Foreign Affairs in the U.S Senate. that the election of President-elect Juan Manuel Santos had renewed interest in initiating dialogue between Colombia and Venezuela, and that if confirmed he would work towards it.
In the absence of objections, the committee intends to ratify McKinley in two weeks as replacement to current Ambassador William Brownfield. The new ambassador is expected to take office in Colombia shortly after the inauguration of Santos.
McKinley stated that human rights and the fight against drug-trafficking were also high on the agenda. The diplomat expressed his wish to “build on progress” made by a “200-year friendship” between Colombia and U.S. and to work to demobilize terrorist and guerrilla factions who insist on “turning back the clock.”
McKinley has more than 27 years experience in the U.S Foreign Service. Born in Venezuela, he is currently serving as ambassador to Peru.
The diplomat also reiterated that the administration of President Obama is committed to advancing a free trade agreement with Colombia, which has been awaiting legislative ratification since November 2006.
caracasPeter Michael MckinleyVenezuelaWilliam Brownfield
Colombia’s COVID vaccine ban for Venezuela’s undocumented: ethnic cleansing?
Venezuela claims killing dissident FARC commander
Colombia may refuse right to vote to citizens who fled Venezuela
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THE DUMBARTON DEMOCRAT
NATIONAL NEWS AND OPINION FROM A LOCAL PERSPECTIVE
Balloch
THE DEMOCRAT EDITORIAL
July 10, 2019 heaneymedia Uncategorized One comment
Levengrove Park Launch PIC SHOWS Council leader Jonathan McColl opens the Cafe with Provost Hendrie and staff other council members
Cllr Jonathan McColl; Martin Docherty Hughes MP and millionaire Gordon Gibb.
Mr Bumble and the Meerkat have a hard neck on them, accusing the millionaire boss of Flamingo Land of hypocrisy.
Mr Bumble (Cllr Jonathan McColl, West Dunbartonshire Council’s answer to US President Donald Trump and Boris Johnston) and the Meerkat (pint-sized, pompous, pop up SNP politician Martin Docherty Hughes MP) have colluded in a dirty tricks-type fit up of Gordon Gibb and branded him as a hypocrite.
The Nats’ finest have accused him of double standards for saying that the land near his £1 million Yorkshire mansion was a haven of peace and quiet because it was part of a national park.
This was spun-out by these frequently economical with the truth, anti-democratic SNP politicians to some gullible journalists as a current affair.
It wasn’t of course. The truth of the matter is that the “news” was about two years old.
What Gordon Gibb was doing at the time was gilding the lily a little to sell his house – who doesn’t? – by saying it was close to the national park in Yorkshire, which is a haven of peace and beauty.
His house is (was) about as close to the national park as Dumbarton is to Balloch, a distance of 4k away, which is not exactly over the garden wall.
There are plenty of reasons why Flamingo Land should never be allowed to desecrate the Bonnie Banks of Loch Lomond with their planned project, but this is hardly one of them.
So, we should keep the party clean, free from fake news.
The Dumbarton Democrat fully supports the Save Loch Lomond campaign to persuade the Loch Lomond National Park Authority to refuse planning permission to Flamingo Land for their leisure park venture at Drumkinnon Bay.
Scottish Enterprise, his co-applicant, should never have given Mr Gibb’s company encouragement to embark on this in the first place. It was a waste of public money and a poor attempt cloaked in an intention to attract jobs to this area.
And Mr Gibb, who is so proud of his Scottish heritage that he got married in a kilt and then had a traditional Scottish reception, where “guests dined on Aberdeen Angus beef, Scottish salmon, haggis and neeps and tatties,” should have known better than to mess with the only part of Loch Lomondside with free, unhindered access for ordinary, working folk.
He is probably more Scottish than many of his SNP opponents.
You won’t hear me say this often, but I feel sorry for Gordon Gibb for falling foul of the duplicitous SNP council leader McColl, who initially portrayed himself as his friend and an enthusiastic supporter of this unwelcome business venture.
Yes, it was Jonathan McColl who told all and sundry that he was in favour of encouraging Flamingo Land to come into Balloch.
And who, in the manner we have come to expect from him, changed his tune and did a U-turn when he saw the community – and the country – was massively opposed to this.
It became very clear that the re-election jacket in his Balloch ward was on an extremely shaky nail.
What a thin-skinned, autocratic, unscrupulous individual we have in charge of our once proud Council, but it is often said the public gets the politicians it deserves.
We imagine the well-heeled Mr Gibb is not in the least discomfited by these latest expressions of outrage and anger.
He must, however, be disappointed as he watches his chance to gain a £2 million piece of land for nothing on a prime site such as Loch Lomondside gradually disappear from his grasp into an ever thickening Scotch Mist.
His company, recently re-named Lomond Banks in a series of enigmatic moves, had this to say: “We are promising to enhance a national park. That’s the big picture here.
“We are going to invest £30 million in Balloch, create over 200 jobs, improve amenities for local people and make the place more attractive to tourists who will come here to seek adventure and experiences in and around the town.
“Local businesses are going to benefit hugely from this. That’s what the focus should be on and not on an old quote that was printed out of context.
“Gordon was misquoted in an article relating to the sale of his house in Ebberston.
“The house itself is not in a National Park, and is 4km away from the National Park boundary where Gordon likes to go running.
“What he said was that the house is in a great location, close to the National Park. And the area in which he goes running is not earmarked for development.
“To claim Gordon is a hypocrite is really clutching at straws in a desperate attempt to make him look bad.
“The Lomond Banks proposal is to enhance an area that has been earmarked for tourism for years.
“To draw a comparison between a home in Ebberston to an area that has been earmarked for tourism development in Balloch is quite frankly ridiculous.”
Yes, ridiculous.
The people who run this community seem to believe we all came up the River Leven in a banana boat.
We owe it to ourselves and to future generations to send them homeward to think again.
And to take Mr Gibb an d Flamingo Land with them.
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Harry Hyland says:
Bill, in my opinion Flamingo Land got what they came to Balloch for, The Woodbank site, discussions and negotiations were ongoing with the planners and Scottish Development who for years tried to flog Pier Road unsuccessfully, they saw this as a golden opportunity and Flamingo Land played ball, why not, several surveys were carried out at the expense of Scottish Development, then low and behold planning was granted for The Woodbank site, where I understand the existing building has only to have facade treatment. Meantime things were moving along, where even our C.C at the very outset gave their unreserved support without consulting the community they supposedly represent, sham on them.
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By Bill Heaney Just how well are our older people being looked after during the Covid pandemic – and are they getting what they need
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Great compilation. The old Hiram Walker distillery in Dumbarton and the new houses that have replaced it on the banks of the Leven at Castle
We are sorry to hear of the death of the Archbishop of Glasgow, the Most Reverend Philip Tartaglia, who was an honoured guest when we
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Please censor the Web America, the rest of us can’t wait
Mike Butcher @mikebutcher / 9 years
You might notice many of your favorite websites look different today. Wikipedia is down. WordPress is dark. TechCrunch has adjusted it’s homepage logo to look even weirder than usual. So what’s the big deal?
Right now in Washington D.C., Congress is considering two bills that would censor the web and impose burdensome regulations on American businesses. Over here on the European version of TechCrunch we think that’s a fantastic thing. Utterly fantastic. No, really.
The PROTECT IP Act (PIPA) in the Senate and the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the House PIPA & SOPA will indeed censor the web. For you guys in the US!
Over here in Europe, we’ll be happily file sharing till the cows come home, with all you Yanks hungry for pirated content being forced to download or stream all the latest movies via other means in order to get around your dumb-ass lawmakers. Meanwhile your emergent businesses trying to actually solve the piracy problem will wither and die. Goodbye Netflix, hello vinyl records – I hear they are the latest thing.
Admittedly these SOPA/PIPA powers are on the wish list of oppressive regimes throughout the world – and please don’t tell Russia or Belarus about them. They’ve been hankering for an excuse to shut down their Internet Tubes for years and a great nation like Uncle Sam doing it would be just the green light they’ve been looking for. Sigh. (Here in Europe we prefer to slightly forget about those guys. And please don’t ask us if Russian are Europeans – we’ve done our best to avoid that subject for 60 years and we ain’t about to start now.)
Meanwhile, although SOPA and PIPA also eliminate due process and provide incentives for American companies to shut down, block access to and stop servicing U.S. and foreign websites that copyright and trademark owners allege are illegal – here in Europe we are excited by this.
Well, it means two things. We can start developing an internet outside of North America. Yay!
Goodbye to that large, single, English speaking market who’s teats we have sucked on for so long. Hello to a world of “EurAsia” and Ingsoc” (wow, Orwell was right!?) where we can ply our wares, with you US guys sitting in blissful ignorance, having to watch re-runs of Giligan’s Island because EVERYTHING ELSE IS ILLEGAL.
Yeah sure, our European startups need to make you THINK they are some hip outfit built by the members of a part-time slacker rock band in SOMA, when behind the scenes spotty teenagers in Bucharest are pulling all-nighters (hey Seesmic! how’s it hanging?) — but I guess we’ll find other, less restrictive markets to ply. Like Brazil. China. You get the drift.
Ok, Ok, so you control .com domains and something weird would happen with ICANN. Hell, we’ll figure something out… We rather like the sound of .tr domains from Turkey anyway. Doc.tr could be a new health startup – see, it just WORKS.
And here’s a message for corporate Amercia: Try suing us from Sweden. The Internet’s a human right here buddy…
But the main reason we’re super excited about SOPA, is that your best and brightest entrepreneurs and developers – realising that your version of the Internet is now a sort of steam engine driven version controlled by Congress and unaccountable Corporations (steampunk!) – will now move to Europe to create their next global (“minus USA”, LOL!) Internet company.
The NASDAQ will move to London and it’ll be IPOs all round for us Euros! And our coffee was always so much better anyway…
So, good luck America. Suddenly Escape From New York is looking more like a fly on the wall documentary, with the rest of the world on the other side of your SOPA wall…
(The Google SOPA protest as channeled via an satirical alternative reality)
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Guatemala: students march against ‘reform’
March 19, 2013 Weekly News Update on the Americas
Joined by activists from other social movements, hundreds of students from Guatemalan teachers’ colleges marched nearly 50 kilometers to Guatemala City from El Tejar in the central department of Chimaltenango starting on March 10 to protest what they called the “arbitrary and anti-democratic form” of an educational “reform” passed last year. Students from local private schools began joining the marchers as they arrived in the capital around 6 AM on March 12. The protesters headed to the National Congress and surrounded it, demanding a dialogue with Education Minister Cynthia del Aguila. The minister initially refused to meet with the students, but at the end of the day Del Aguila held a press conference with Dialogue Commissioner Miguel Barcárcel and student representatives to announce plans for a discussion—although Del Aguila said this didn’t necessarily mean the government was backing down from the reform.
The 2012 Strategy for Quality Education eliminates the old teaching certificate and requires teachers to have a diploma with “orientation in education” and to complete a three-year técnico universitario program (similar to an associate degree in the US). Teachers’ college students objected that they don’t have the resources to pay for the additional schooling. Protesters held a sit-in in front of the Education Ministry for three weeks in February and brought a legal action before the Supreme Court. “We’re not opposed to educational reform,” one of the student leaders, Walter Salazar, said on Mar. 10 at the beginning of the march, “as long as it’s agreed to by all the sectors of society [and] it isn’t prejudicial to the students and is really going to be effective.” (EFE, March 10, via La Nación, Chile; Prensa Libre, Guatemala, March 12)
In other news, six hooded men shot indigenous campesino Gerónimo Sol Ajcot dead on March 11 outside his home in Santiago Atitlán municipality in the western department of Sololá. Ajcot was a member of the National Indigenous and Campesino Coordinating Committee (CONIC) and part of the managing council of a local indigenous farmers’ association. The murder came just three days after the shooting death of Carlos Hernández, a leader in the National Union of Health Workers of Guatemala (SNTSG), on March 8 in Camotán municipality, Chiquimula department, near the border with Honduras. Guatemalan unionists are demanding a thorough investigation of the murder; they say Hernández may have made enemies of some multinationals because of his struggles against mining projects. (AFP, March 12, via El Heraldo, Tegucigalpa; Prensa Libre, March 14)
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Dance, Percussion Ensemble Review Print
A Joyful Noise: Duke Performances Presents The Masters of Percussion
Durham -- ( Thu., Mar. 27, 2014 )
Duke Performances: Zakir Hussain and Special Guests - Masters of Percussion
$55; $45; $40; $30; $20; Ages 30 & Under $15; Duke Students $10 -- Durham Performing Arts Center , (919)684-4444 , http://dukeperformances.duke.edu/ -- 8:00 PM
March 27, 2014 - Durham, NC:
Zakir Hussain and the Masters of Percussion (MOP) played a heartbeat-regulating and life-affirming concert at the Durham Performing Arts Center on March 27, as part of Duke Performances' stellar international programming. Hussain and the other percussionists were accompanied by an extraordinary sarangi player and a sitar player with an electrifying style, but the emphasis, naturally, was on rhythm.
Although Duke Performances has brought Zakir Hussain, generally considered the finest living tabla musician, to Durham twice previously (selling out Page Auditorium, which provoked booking the larger DPac for this concert), I had not heard him. I have heard a fair number of tabla players, but from the first moments Hussain's hands touched the drums, I realized I had not begun to understand what a master could do. Later he sat before a six-drum set, but he began with a three-drum set, tuning them as he went and beating out such a thick tapestry of pattern over pattern that it created a kind of ecstasy in the listener. With differing motions of hands and fingers on the simple but differently pitched drums, an artist like Hussain can make a symphony of sounds.
Selvaganesh Vinyakaram opened the concert with an amazing flight of rhythms played on a big-bellied ceramic pot – later he returned with his specialty instrument, the kanjira, a simple backless frame drum about the size of a tambourine, but capable of booming sound. Next came Dilshad Khan, playing a long, exquisitely plaintive, solo on sarangi. The bowed droning of the sarangi calls up images and imaginary memories of women singing at dusk in valleys that echo their songs. Although it sounds very different from the cello, its music goes to the same emotional territory.
Hussain joined his tabla to the sarangi gently at first, as the players found their common tones and the intersections of their patterns, but soon increased the tempo to that of certain joy. After the sarangi duet, Hussain was joined by Vijay Chavan, who did mindblowing things with the dholki, his hands moving too fast to see. And so the evening went in two long sets that seemed brief: a solo, a duet, a change of players, a group, a different group, a solo … and a dancer. Kathak dancer Antonia Minnecola joined the fun, stamping out her own complementary rhythmic patterns that added the shimmer of ankle bells to the mix. With the dance, one could see clearly the great pleasure of playing – making the music, following the music, one player teasing another with little challenges, until the patterns came around to overlap and finish in a climax of sound.
The program's second half began with Deepak Bhatt drumming down the aisle with his big doubleheaded dhol. The audience responded with whistling and clapping, and began to surge from their seats to parade along, but Bhatt reached the stage too soon. Steve Smith, the only non-Indian in the MOP, did a fancy solo with a cymbal and two drumsticks. Niladri Kumar came out with his gorgeous sitar, and zestfully merged raga and rock, with Hussain joining him on the six-drum tabla, before the entire group engaged each other in a grand finale, with each instrument distinct and all in harmony.
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Bears GM: Everything is on table with QB spot
LAKE FOREST, Ill. — The Chicago Bears’ never-ending search for a franchise quarterback could have another chapter after general manager Ryan Pace declined to say that the team intends to re-sign 2017 second overall pick Mitchell Trubisky.
“As far as the plan at quarterback, to get to where we want to go, we definitely need more out of that position,” Pace said Wednesday after he and coach Matt Nagy were given a vote of confidence.
“Everything is on the table.”
Trubisky’s future in Chicago has been tenuous ever since the Bears traded for veteran Nick Foles last April and declined Trubisky’s fifth-year option a little over a month later.
Trubisky went on to win the starting job over Foles to open the season, but Nagy benched Trubisky, 26, in favor of Foles in Week 3.
An injury to Foles — coupled with ineffective play — opened the door for Trubisky to return to the starting lineup in late November, and he helped Chicago revive its playoff hopes with three straight wins versus Houston, Minnesota and Jacksonville.
The spark that Trubisky provided proved fleeting. The Bears lost at home in Week 17 to Green Bay. Chicago backed into the playoffs and the NFC’s seventh seed courtesy of the Rams’ victory over the Cardinals in the regular-season finale but then had a dreadful offensive performance in the playoffs versus the Saints.
Overall, the Bears dropped eight of their final 11 games after having begun the year 5-1.
Chicago went 1-7 against playoff teams.
Still, Trubisky expressed a willingness to return to Chicago next season, telling reporters in the aftermath of the season-ending loss to New Orleans that he had “unfinished business” with the team.
That may be so, but the Bears made no promises Wednesday to extend Trubisky or apply the franchise tag. Instead, Pace and Nagy spoke at length about the importance of improving the position that has been a problem for the Bears since Hall of Famer Sid Luckman retired in the 1940s.
In recent times, Pace infamously traded up to draft Trubisky over Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson in 2017. Mere weeks before obtaining Trubisky, the Bears signed free-agent quarterback Mike Glennon to a deal that included $18.5 million in guarantees. The Bears pulled the plug on Glennon after just four starts and were forced to prematurely usher in the Trubisky era.
“Why do we feel strong about getting that position right?” Pace said. “It goes back to the connected vision I share with Matt.
“I just have a lot of confidence in the unity we have as coaching staff and personnel department, but mainly that Matt and I have at attacking that together.”
Foles, 31, is the only Bears quarterback under contract for next year. The veteran will count approximately $6.6 million against the 2021 salary cap.
• Pace said star pass-rusher Khalil Mack is unlikely to require offseason surgery to repair the shoulder injury that bothered him much of the year. Mack still led the Bears with nine sacks.
• The Bears are hopeful veteran pass-rusher Robert Quinn can have a bounce-back season in 2021. Quinn, who signed a deal last offseason that contained $30 million in guarantees, recorded just two sacks for the Bears. Pace all but conceded that Quinn will return in 2021 — largely because his salary next year is fully guaranteed.
“We expect him to rebound,” Pace said. “I think having an offseason being with us, I think that will bode well for him. Together with him and with us and our plan, we have to find a way to help him get more production, and I believe that he will.”
• Nagy announced that the search to replace retiring defensive coordinator Chuck Pagano will begin in earnest. Nagy does not believe Chicago’s current predicament will prevent outside parties from having interest in the position. Nagy has two years left on the five-year contract he received to coach the Bears. Pace has one year left on the three-year extension he signed in 2018. Bears CEO and president Ted Phillips said neither Nagy nor Pace received any additional years on their contracts after Chicago’s 8-9 finish.
• Pace remained noncommittal about the future of wide receiver Allen Robinson, who will be a free agent unless the Bears use the franchise tag. The Bears and Robinson’s agent were unable to come to terms on a long-term deal during the season, and talks eventually broke off. Robinson, 27, led the team with 102 catches for 1,250 yards.
“You know how we feel about Allen, how respected he is in the building,” Pace said. “But to get into specifics on his contract, you guys also know I’m not going to get into that. In regard to the franchise tag, I would just say everything is on the table. The league gives us tools for a reason, but right now we’re just going to keep all those talks internal out of respect to Allen, out of respect to his agent. I just think those are best handled in a private manner.”
• Nagy punted when asked whether he intended to reclaim offensive playcalling duties next season. Nagy insisted that offensive coordinator Bill Lazor served as the team’s primary playcaller for the final eight games. Nagy, however, declined to say whether he plans to carry over the arrangement into next year.
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Tags: Chicago BearsMitchell TrubiskynewsNFLNick Foles
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Long-Term Car Review: 2016 Kia Soul EV – Part 1
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We couldn't resist the opportunity to test the limits of range anxiety, so we're learning how to live electric
by Graeme Fletcher | January 14, 2016
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Range anxiety is a phrase that entered the automotive lexicon only recently. With the number of electric cars on the road growing, at first, all owners suffer from this question: Is there enough juice to get from A-to-B without white-knuckling it as the battery gets perilously close to bringing the car to an ignominious halt because of a lack of electrons? With this in mind, I embarked on a long-term test of the 2016 Kia Soul EV. I am going to learn how to live electric.
The differences between the Soul EV and its gas-powered counterpart are subtle. The EV arrives with unique colours (our test car is finished in bright blue with a white roof) and a different grille that actually hides the charging point.
Inside, apart from the light gray interior – much of which is made from recycled materials – and glossy piano white accents, it’s really only differentiated by the instrumentation. The left dial features a charge/discharge meter along with a “fuel” gauge that indicates the battery’s state of charge. In the middle of the display is the all-important distance to empty. The right dial shows the speedometer and how much energy is being consumed.
There are also some additional features built into the Soul EV. For example, the navigation system’s central screen gives an outline of the drive in terms of the energy used and overall efficiency. It also paints red and green circles on the map of a planned drive route — green meaning no problem; red indicates the maximum driving distance, a feature particularly helpful when planning a trip.
Nearing the limit, I punched a button and the Soul displayed a list of nearby charging points. Pick the desired point and the navigation system takes care of the rest. It was a comforting addition, as driving around and looking for a plug when the battery is nearing empty introduced a level of anxiety I did not care for – any tow truck can bring five litres of gasoline; none have the ability to deliver a bucket full of electrons.
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Size-wise very little changes. In fact, the only meaningful difference is found in the curb weight — the EV heavier that its gas-powered sibling because of the 27 kWh lithium-ion battery — it adds 282 kilograms. This, along with an electric motor with a single-speed transmission and the power electronics that oversee the interaction between the two, makes up the Soul EV’s powertrain.The electric motor and electronics sit up front where the gasoline engine and conventional transmission once resided, while the battery is mounted in the middle of the car beneath the floor – where it does not eat into the interior space.
The electric motor puts out 109 horsepower and 210 lb.-ft. of torque, enough to whisk the EV from standstill to 100 km/h in 11.4 seconds. That is slower than the gas-powered model, but there was an upside: As peak torque arrived the instant the wheels began to turn, the pull off the line was noticeably crisper, to the point where it surprised a number of passengers. At the opposite end, the Soul EV handled highway speeds with ease.
There are four driving modes: Drive and Brake, both of which can be used with the Eco setting. The temptation was to use D with Eco off; however, as the test proved conclusively, the best mode was Brake with Eco on. It maximizes the driving range and transforms the Soul EV into a one-pedal drive. Brake ramps up the regenerative braking, which allows the driver to control vehicle speed using the accelerator pedal alone. Yes, the brake pedal is needed at a stoplight, but other than that I rarely used it.
As with the rest of the EV’s makeup, the ride and handling characteristics do not stray too far from those of the gas-powered Soul. The suspension does an equally good job of soaking up road irregularities and controlling unwanted body motion. The only caveat is the additional mass was evident as the Soul EV neared the limit — the initial turn-in felt slightly sluggish. The steering itself is crisp and the feedback better than many similar electrically assisted systems.
All in all, most drivers would be hard pressed to pick up on the differences between the electric and gasoline versions of the Soul. Well, aside from the annoying tinkling noise that’s mandated to warn pedestrians an electric car is nearing. With all of the technology available today, would it not be possible to let the driver customize the sound? If that’s the case, my choice would be the muted roar of a Formula One car.
In coming updates, we will touch on lessons learned and put the driving range to the test when the temperature plummets. How much effect does colder weather have on the driving range? Stay tuned.
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Media Confirmation #2 about Pennsylvania Recount,Protests,riots, internal war in USA after US Election 2016 as predicted by Clairvoyant Dimitrinka Staikova in her Ebook : 2016 World Predictions for USA – About Each State – Republicans or Democrats on US Election 2016 ? + Hottest News Predictions – Psychic News Part 2 Clairvoyant/Psychic Predictions by Dimitrinka Staikova and Ivelina Staikova
Media Confirmation #2 about Pennsylvania Recount,Protests,riots, internal war in USA after US Election 2016 as predicted by Clairvoyant Dimitrinka Staikova in her Ebook :
2016 World Predictions for USA –
About Each State – Republicans or Democrats on US Election 2016 ?
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Clairvoyant/Psychic Predictions by
Dimitrinka Staikova and Ivelina Staikova
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This is only a little part of the Clairvoyant/Psychic predictions – read the rest in our ebooks :
Nevada and State Governor Brian Sandoval – Clairvoyant/Psychic Predictions for USA 2016 – About Each State Of America – Who will win on US Election 2016 – Democrats or Republicans ? – By Clairvoyant House “Dimitrinka Staikova and Daughters Stoyanka and Ivelina Staikova ” – from Europe, Bulgaria, Varna – 12.12.2015, 3pm.
…..US Election 2016 – Year 2016 the state of Nevada is in Internal war and votes about the Democrats…..
New Jersey and State Governor Chris Christie – Clairvoyant/Psychic Predictions for USA 2016 – About Each State Of America – Who will win on US Election 2016 – Democrats or Republicans ? – By Clairvoyant House “Dimitrinka Staikova and Daughters Stoyanka and Ivelina Staikova ” – from Europe, Bulgaria, Varna – 16.12.2015, 7pm.
…..US Election 2016 – In the State, there will be a fierce battle among Democrats and Republicans. I still don’t see the winner…..
New Mexico and State Governor Susana Martinez – Clairvoyant/Psychic Predictions for USA 2016 – About Each State Of America – Who will win on US Election 2016 – Democrats or Republicans ? – By Clairvoyant House “Dimitrinka Staikova and Daughters Stoyanka and Ivelina Staikova ” – from Europe, Bulgaria, Varna – 16.12.2015, 8pm.
…… In the State of New Mexico there will be a military equipment, as on a military exercise -Summer 2016. Since July 2016, again – unrest because of refugees.
US Election 2016 – The State votes for the Democrats…..
Oklahoma and State Governor Mary Fallin – Clairvoyant/Psychic Predictions for USA 2016 – About Each State Of America – Who will win on US Election 2016 – Democrats or Republicans ? – By Clairvoyant House “Dimitrinka Staikova and Daughters Stoyanka and Ivelina Staikova ” – from Europe, Bulgaria, Varna – 18.12.2015, 9pm.
……..US Election 2016 – The State of Oklahoma is for the Democrats, but I see strong imposition of Republicans. There will be a fierce battle. The outcome (the exit ) is unknown, because they consciously choose the Democrats, but I see acquiscence and obedience…….
Oregon and State Governor Kate Brown – “I don’t recommend gambling – Year 2016 is not good for gambing – Whatever you win, you will loose it – Clairvoyant/Psychic Predictions for USA 2016 – About Each State Of America – Who will win on US Election 2016 – Democrats or Republicans ? – By Clairvoyant House “Dimitrinka Staikova and Daughters Stoyanka and Ivelina Staikova ” – from Europe, Bulgaria, Varna – 18.12.2015, 3pm.
• ……..May 2016 – In the state are preparing for war, armament (arming), Army. Also the citizens are preparing for war – I see keeping (protecting) of border.
June- July 2016 – New rearrangement in the state, new regulations, new law – ….
US Election 2016 – The Democrats has bigger chanse.
Pennsylvania and State Governor Tom Wolf Clairvoyant/Psychic Predictions for USA 2016 – About Each State Of America – Who will win on US Election 2016 – Democrats or Republicans ? – By Clairvoyant House “Dimitrinka Staikova and Daughters Stoyanka and Ivelina Staikova ” – from Europe, Bulgaria, Varna – 18.12.2015, 4pm.
• ………November 2016 – US Election 2016 – The state is for the Democrats, but the Republicans will pour a lot of money. In the decision is involved Court and Prosecution ( The Republicans are winning very difficult and with a lot of money)………
Texas and State Governor Greg Abbott Clairvoyant/Psychic Predictions for USA 2016 – About Each State Of America – Who will win on US Election 2016 – Democrats or Republicans ? – By Clairvoyant House “Dimitrinka Staikova and Daughters Stoyanka and Ivelina Staikova ” – from Europe, Bulgaria, Varna – 22.12.2015, 1 pm.
……The war between the Republicans and Democrats in the last moment is causing internal war in the state of Texas…..
Washington and State Governor Jay Inslee -” …August 2016 is the next heavy political month. There is a Plot – preparation for the murder of the President of USA….”-Clairvoyant/Psychic Predictions for USA 2016 – About Each State Of America – Who will win on US Election 2016 – Democrats or Republicans ? – By Clairvoyant House “Dimitrinka Staikova and Daughters Stoyanka and Ivelina Staikova ” – from Europe, Bulgaria, Varna – 26.12.2015, 11 am.
• November 2016 – There will be event, which the Governor will feel like a “Cutting of heads”.
US Election 2016 – The State is for the Democrats.
Wisconsin and State Governor Scott Walker Clairvoyant/Psychic Predictions for USA 2016 – About Each State Of America – Who will win on US Election 2016 – Democrats or Republicans ? – By Clairvoyant House “Dimitrinka Staikova and Daughters Stoyanka and Ivelina Staikova ” – from Europe, Bulgaria, Varna – 28.12.2015, 9 am.
Until March 2016 there will be good gainings (incomes) in the state by business. The state will be the beginning of business companies, which are starting investments in that state and other states : fast constructions :Stores as huge halls (storehouses,storages) – with everything inside – from cars to confectionery. The most profitable will be a Confectionary shop. The weather, rains and cold doesn’t influence the business. The state will increases the confidence to religious organisations, because of their cares to the people – January, February 2016. The only thing that will cause problems to that weather are the lightnings, the electricity and the threat for falling of Space Objects.
• March 2016 – is heavy month for decisions – I see the people to make a step ahead and to turn their back to old choices. March and April 2016 is the time of the Spring. The nature and the souls of the people are revived.
• The end of April and May 2016 – I hear shootings and explosions everywhere.
• June 2016 – Winning the lottery will inspire the state. This year 2016, the Summer, I see successful treasure-hunting in a searching for gold and antiques.
• July 2016 will be heavy for the state, because of the weather and air pressure. The criminality is reduced, because of the dictatorship efforts of the police and the law.
• September 2016 are beginning the unrests (emotions), because of the Election 2016 and Cleavage in the business.
• October 2016 will be heavy too, because of the natural cataclysms and money – stopped financing.
US Election 2016 – In the state are winning the Republicans.
Media Confirmations :
#1 – Protesters gather outside Las Vegas Trump hotel after his win – Nov 9, 2016
http://www.ktnv.com/news/protesters-gather-outside-las-vegas-trump-hotel-after-his-win
#2 – 2016 USA VOTES
‘Not My President’ Anti-Trump Protests Continue Across US
http://www.voanews.com/a/more-protests-in-us-cities-against-trumps-election/3593233.html
Protests turned violent in the West Coast city of Portland, Oregon, early Saturday amid fears a Trump presidency will erode Americans’ civil rights and trigger unrest.
In New York, hundreds of people gathered in Washington Square Park for a “love rally” late Friday, then set out for Manhattan’s Union Square, a traditional destination for political marches, about a half mile (one kilometer) away. They held signs saying “Love will always trump hate” and chanted “Not my president” as they walked.
Since Trump’s election, reports have shown an uptick in racist incidents and hate crimes across the country. The Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups, documented more than 200 incidents of hateful harassment and intimidation in the three days after Election Day.
#3 – Anti-Trump protest in Portland, Oregon, devolves into riot
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/11/13/anti-trump-protest-portland-devolves-into-riot/93760244/
#4 – Pennsylvania recount: Jill Stein to take fight to federal court after $1m bond set
Green party candidate vows to counter judge’s ‘outrageous demand’ for $1m bond by seeking emergency relief in federal court
Sunday 4 December 2016 07.38 GMT
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/03/jill-stein-pennsylvania-recount-green-party
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Pennsylvania Recount 2016: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
Published 5:01 pm EST, November 26, 2016
….In Pennsylvania, unlike Michigan and Wisconsin, “voters or candidates can petition courts for a recount of the vote. A judge is required to make a decision on whether one should go ahead,” said the UK Daily Mail.
http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/pennsylvania-recount-filed-results-deadline-rules-law-election-electronic-voting-machines-hillary-clinton-marc-elias-hack-fraud-russia-trump-jill-stein-hand-count-paper-votes-ballots/
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Devlet Bahçelı – July 16, 2016, 11am. (Leader of Grey Wolves – Turkish Nationalist Organisation and Chairman of Nationalist Movement Party of Turkey) – The Party, A coup, Money, Business, Elections 2016, 2017 – Clairvoyant/Psychic predictions by Clairvoyant House “Dimitrinka Staikova and daughters Stoyanka and Ivelina Staikova” – from Europe, Bulgaria, Varna – July 16 ,2016, 11am.
Photo – July 12, 2016. Time -after the photo.
What was interesting for Devlet Bahçelı on July 12, 2016 – his health, his energy, the future of the party and money and profits. Bahçelı sees all that pessimistically, but with a thought that everything bad that is going downwards, can be stopped.
I see a lot of nerves and counteraction against him, but he is convinced in its future actions and he will personally take its party on one acceptable level. For now, he closes the door about frozen energy projects. From three energy players and three banks will remain two – these are two independent participants in one energy project – between them , the energy begins to superimpose (to increase).
Three men , working for a third one, who is outside the country, together with the Intelligence (reconnaissance) will succeed in a coup. The coup begins as military, but is is finished by the Higher Intelligence. The orders are coming from outside….from abroad. There are beginning days of waiting, fighting and war – Turkey will boil just like on the borders, as in its heart – Ankara. Despite the intervention of the Higher intelligence – until two days the four people who has started the military actions for a coup fail. Devlet Bahçelı knew about the coup, but he is not a participant.
• July 12, 2016 – He talks on the congress of its party for new structures on a lower level that will close the ranks of the members. – He talks about the kurds, as possible members of the party. – He talks about two subleaders. He has healthy problems – I feel cough, difficult breathing, suffocation. Problems in the prostate, pain in the left side of the head.
• July 13, 2016 – A road, conversations – after lunch again for the party – he meets with informer – news. A phone talk overseas. Negotiations with Germany. – A visit on a place, where are made science experiments. Conversations until the late evening.
• July 14, 2016 – He feels better healthy. There are close people around him. I see a made deal, I see his hand to fondle gold. Money are collected for a new building (sacred), that will belong to the Intelligence. Around lunch – it is reported to him about a movement of people and preparation, but from abroad. He has warned Erdogan -they were ready for the coup.
• July 16, 2016 – there are givven additional money to a certain people – overseas bank accounts – it is psid for a certain tasks and a job done. On July 16, 2016 – everything is under control.
• July 17, 2016 – the things are going out of control.
1. First are the turks dissatisfied by that government.
2. Second are the communists.
3. Third are the kurds.
In Turkey begins to enter a big mass of people. Turkey enters in a war footing.
• September 2016 – will be the second mass people’s discontent , that will cause to a date for elections.
• November 2016 – There will be an assault against the leaders of Turkey.
Despite the date for Elections 2016, the elections will be effective year 2017. Since year 2017 – there will be often changes in the government.
Health Diagnosis of Devlet Bahçelı :
Pains in the right lung – and the both lungs are sick. Pains in the thyroid gland, liver, urinary tract, prostate. He suffer from colitis – the reason : bile duct. On July 12 and 13, 2016 – he has a high blood pressure and pain, that is moving in the left leg.
Turkey could hold constitutional referendum by spring
http://vestnikkavkaza.net/news/Turkey-could-hold-constitutional-referendum-by-spring.html
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1.First Photo – Sept. 11, 2016 – Hillary Clinton surrounded with security guards (without car).
2.On the Second Photo – Hillary Clinton is surrounded by security guards with a car.
Donald Trump – Health, He knew that Hillary Clinton will have a seizure – Clairvoyant Health Diagnosis made on photo from Sept. 11, 2016 by Clairvoyant House “Dimitrinka Staikova and daughters Stoyanka and Ivelina Staikova” – from Europe, Bulgaria, Varna – September 13, 2016, 9am.
The photo used for that Clairvoyant reading is when Donald Trump arrives on the ceremony of the anniversary of the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001
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Media Confirmation about a Plot -Preparation for the murder of the President of USA – August 2016 exactly as predicted by Clairvoyant/Psychic Dimitrinka Staikova in her Ebook : 2016 World Predictions for USA – About Each State – Republicans or Democrats on US Election 2016 ? Part 2: Clairvoyant/Psychic Predictions by Dimitrinka Staikova and Ivelina Staikova Kindle Edition by Ivelina Staikova (Author), Dimitrinka Staikova (Author), Stoyanka Staikova (Translator) Publication Date: December 29, 2015
Media Confirmation about a Plot -Preparation for the murder of the President of USA – August 2016 exactly as predicted by Clairvoyant/Psychic Dimitrinka Staikova in her Ebook :
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• August 2016 is the next heavy political month. There is a Plot – preparation for the murder of the President of USA….It will be killed somebody else staying near the president…
• …….
District of Columbia and Mayor Muriel Bowser Clairvoyant/Psychic Predictions for USA 2016 – About Each State Of America – Who will win on US Election 2016 – Democrats or Republicans ? – By Clairvoyant House “Dimitrinka Staikova and Daughters Stoyanka and Ivelina Staikova ” – from Europe, Bulgaria, Varna – 28.12.2015, 11 am.
Year 2016 – The Underground shelters will give comfort to the special people. Here, everything will go fast – business, earning, spending of money, plots for murders, drug business…all. Year 2016, here is time for fast lane. Here, also President Obama must beware by Attempt for Murder.
FBI arrests Mass. man who allegedly wanted to kill Obama, had stockpile of weapons
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/29/fbi-arrests-mass-man-who-allegedly-wanted-to-kill-obama-had-stockpile-weapons.html
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Wisconsin governor activates National Guard after police shooting sparks protests
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Media Confirmation about Hillary Clinton – attack from Kremlin and the New Black Pather Party USA -Black power movement – as predicted by Clairvoyant/Psychic Dimitrinka Staikova. This is only a small Part of the Clairvoyant/Psychic prediction, You can read the rest in the Ebook : Elections – USA, Turkey, Austria….Clairvoyant/Psychic predictions : #BlackLivesMatter, The Coup in Turkey ?, Devlet Bahçeli, CIA, FBI, Ku Klux Klan, White Supremacy… On the top of the needle
Media Confirmation about Hillary Clinton – attack from Kremlin and the New Black Pather Party USA -Black power movement – as predicted by Clairvoyant/Psychic Dimitrinka Staikova.
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Hashim Nzinga (Chairman of the New Black Pather Party USA -Black power movement) – The future of the movement 2016, 2017, 2018 – about each month. Elections 2016 and 2017. Behind which political leader they will stay ?
Who will become President of USA on the US Election 2016 ?- Clairvoyant/Psychic predictions by Clairvoyant House “Dimitrinka Staikova and daughters Stoyanka and Ivelina Staikova” – from Europe, Bulgaria, Varna – July 13, 2016, 3pm.
Photo – July 2016. Time – after the photo.
…. The movement is including in the US Presidential Elections 2016. I see only successes in the US Election 2016 by the united black movement. Behind which leader they will stay…..- they have refused to Trump and the money and the contracts.
Hillary Clinton – behind her, I see the star of Kremlin and I see her to ride the wave – Black against White. The movement gathers a huge power, but it is a lonely ship in the sea. Althought in it there is working at full strength the intelligence (reconnaissance) of the Democrats and the Republicans. Until the end of year 2016, they will have four (4) more choices to do……
Politics | Mon Aug 1, 2016 6:39am EDT Related: ELECTION 2016, POLITICS, RUSSIA
Clinton says Russia behind DNC hacking, draws line to Trump
WASHINGTON | BY DOINA CHIACU AND ROBERTA RAMPTON
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-democrats-idUSKCN10B0ST
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Media Confirmation about the Health of Hillary Clinton as predicted by Clairvoyant/Psychic Dimitrinka Staikova in Part of Clairvoyant/Psychic predictions published in the Ebook: USA Election 2016 -Clairvoyant/Psychic Predictions to :Jeb Bush,Hillary Clinton,Donald Trump,Bernie Sanders,John Kasich,Rick Perry,Martin O’Malley… World Predictions about USA and All Candidates Us Elections 2016
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Clairvoyant Health Diagnosis to Hillary Clinton :
In the moment when the photo is made she has pain in the left eye, throat,in the muscles behind on right side above the waist, the waist and the bones from the pelvis below (the legs). In the future she will have surgical interventions in the liver and genitalia. In the moment of the photo are mixed diseases with flu.
Hillary Clinton has hormonal disbalance : strong falling of the blood pressure and sharply rising. The thing which is anxiously in the future are her genitalia – first right side, then at the left – there are malignancies. At the right side of the genitalia is more serious and more difficult curable.
She must protect her self by making sharp movements – due the hormonal disbalance she will suffer dizziness and loss of consciousness.
I recomend – water treatment in the spring of youth – high in the mountains of Nepal.
Media Confirmation:
VIDEO: ‘DID HILLARY CLINTON JUST SUFFER A SEIZURE?’
‘The poor woman is in worse shape than we thought’
Published : July 26,2016
http://www.wnd.com/2016/07/video-did-hillary-clinton-just-suffer-a-seizure/
Do we know enough about the candidates’ health?
Jul 18, 2016 11:43 AM EDT
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-health-records-of-presidential-candidates/
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Home Latest Education News National News MURIC calls for justice over alleged hijab discrimination at JAMB CBT centres
MURIC calls for justice over alleged hijab discrimination at JAMB CBT centres
School girls in hijab [Picture used for illustrative purpose]
Human rights group, Muslim Rights Concern has called for justice on behalf of the daughter of a broadcaster and other hijab wearing female candidates who were allegedly denied entry into Computer-Based Test centres in the ongoing Unified Tertiary Matriculation Examination (UTME). The press statement of the organisation is presented below.
MURIC CALLS FOR JUSTICE AS BROADCASTER’S DAUGHTER, OTHERS DENIED ENTRY IN JAMB CENTERS
The daughter of a former ace broadcaster, Sulaiman Aledeh, was among several hijab-wearing female students who were denied entry at a JAMB examination center in Lagos yesterday.
This was revealed in a tweet sent by the ex-broadcaster at exactly 8 am on Thursday, 11 th April, 2019 on his twitter handle @aledeh, ‘My daughter is writing her @JAMBHQ today but she just called me now that she’s been asked to remove her hijab before she’s allowed in at the center at New Ocean School, Megida, Ayobo. Is that the rule please? She’s NOT the only one cos they’re from a MUSLIM school’.
Meanwhile, the Muslim Rights Concern (MURIC) has denounced the action of the JAMB invigilators and supervisors at the examination centers involved. MURIC’s condemnation was made known in a press statement signed by its Founder and Director, Professor Ishaq Akintola.
“We are aware of the refusal of some JAMB invigilators and supervisors to allow female Muslim candidates who wore hijab to the centers to sit for the examinations. This action is despicable, repugnant and barbaric. It is also illegal, unlawful, illegitimate and unconstitutional. When will Muslim-haters grow up? When will they become democracy-compliant? When will they respect the rule of law?
“The law says hijab is constitutional (Section 38 (i) and (ii)) but they will rather follow their whims and caprices. The Muslims of the South West are being taken for granted. Our love for peaceful coexistence and our reluctance to take the law into our hands is being mistaken for cowardice. But we will like to warn that there is a limit to patience.
“We remind Muslim haters in the South West that there are no more ‘stupid monkeys’ in Idanre. The only remaining monkeys over there are smarter than homo sapiens. Everyday may be for the oppressors and Muslim-haters but certainly there will be one day for the oppressed Muslims.
“This profiling of Muslims particularly through the denial of hijab rights has been on for a long time. The Muslim victims cry out daily. Many cases of hijab denial are in the courts. Yet the various state governments pretend as if nothing is happening. Worse still, the Federal Government has ‘decided not to interfere’. The message is very clear. The authorities are telling us that the fate of Muslims is in the hands of Muslims.
“MURIC therefore calls on Muslims in the South West to prepare for a long, intellectual and nonviolent struggle. Female Muslim students are hereby instructed to carry recording gadgets on their persons. We want all provocations, victimisations and acts of stigmatization to be secretly recorded wherever they occur because it will be impossible to get a conviction if there is no concrete evidence.
“We charge Islamic organisations, particularly the Muslim lawyers Association (MULAN), the Muslim Teachers Association (MUTAN), the National Council of Muslim Youth Organisation (NACOMYO), the Muslim Students Society of Nigeria (MSSN), The Muslim Congress (TMC) to re-engineer their mobilization strategies towards deflating this rising persecution ego among Muslim-haters in the sub-region. It is high time some fanatical Muslim-haters are made to face the full wrath of the law”.
The human rights organization also alleged that a male invigilator touched the female candidates in an improper manner at the same center under the guise of carrying out searches on candidates.
“We strongly object to the way a male invigilator touched all parts of the female candidates at the center under the guise of conducting searches. It is highly unprofessional, immoral, improper and paedophilic. Men should search male candidates while women officials search female candidates. That is the global best practice.
“We aver that improper touching has occurred in this circumstance and somebody must be held accountable for it. Most of the female candidates are underaged and their parents have entrusted them into the hands of JAMB as a social contract. It is child abuse. JAMB authorities have a duty to ask questions and get appropriate answers from the center.
“Those behind this victimization hide under official assignments to perpetrate their evil acts. Unfortunately, all the government institutions which they represent declare their actions illegal. For instance, all the examination bodies have declared that hijab is allowed in examination halls. But no ad hoc or permanent staff has been punished to date for stigmatizing female Muslim students.
“Are these authorities and examination bodies waiting for the time when Muslim youths will mobilise themselves, lay in ambush and take officials who victimize female Muslims to police stations? Who shall we blame at that point? Are the Muslims in the sub-region being pushed to the wall deliberately because some people want to flex muscles or score a religious or political point?
“Although some of the JAMB candidates were later allowed to enter after being made to stay outside for a long time, we still consider this measure as unfair, uncharitable and very provocative. Muslim candidates were delayed outside the examination hall while their Christian counterparts continued writing in an examination in which all the candidates will stop at the same time.
Is this fair? Is it just? Is it equitable? It will be difficult for female Muslim candidates who were intimidated outside the hall to gain their emotional balance immediately. It is also expected that candidates who were delayed outside while their colleagues had already started writing the examination have been disadvantaged. This is one of the methods being used by Christian officials to favour Christian candidates at the expense of their Muslim counterparts.
“It is also important to note that those who persecute female Muslim candidates in hijab have never attempted the same in any part of the North. Perhaps they know the expected consequence.
“We are placing it on record for the day when records will become priceless. More importantly, we are calling the attention of the whole world to the persecution being meted out to Muslims in South West Nigeria. Our detractors are adept at spreading false propaganda.
“Although they are the perpetrators of injustice, they are always the first to rush to the United Kingdom, the United States, the United Nations, etc. Also, they always find a way to sway media sentiment to their side. But we find solace in the knowledge that truth is constant and it will always overwhelm falsehood no matter how long.
“MURIC calls on the JAMB authorities to carry out full investigation into the victimization of female Muslim candidates at New Ocean School, Megida, Ayobo. The circumstances surrounding the improper, immoral and paedophilic searches by a male on underaged girls must also be investigated.
“Before we draw the curtain, we affirm that in view of the incessant violation of extant rules by staff and ad hoc workers and the continuous criminal molestation of female Muslim candidates, JAMB and other national examination bodies like the West African Examinations Council (WAEC) owe it a duty to issue memoranda and publish advertorials containing permission to female Muslim candidates to use hijab and a clear warning to invigilators and supervisors who disallow it. Only thus can the examination bodies assure Nigerians that they are not collaborators in the age-long persecution of Muslims in the South West.
Professor Ishaq Akintola,
Director, Muslim Rights Concern (MURIC)
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Andorra and the EU
SEAE > Andorra > #Orangetheworld for victims of violence
Gender equality and women empowerment are high on the agenda today. A newly adopted EU Gender Action Plan pushing for progress towards gender equality opened the day, with a series of gender related activities. To mark International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women, the day will end in orange as we illuminate the EU buildings in solidarity with victims of violence, particularly during this year when this Shadow Pandemic is growing amidst the COVID-19 crisis. Then we kick off #16DaysOfActivism telling the stories of inspiring women and girls across the globe, who thrived in difficult environments.
“Violence against women and girls is a violation of human rights, and has no place in the European Union, or anywhere else in the world,” High Representative/Vice-President, Josep Borrell together with European Commission, stressed in an EU statement on the occasion of the International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women.
Violence against women and girls is one of the most widespread, persistent and devastating human rights violations in our world today and remains largely unreported due to the impunity, silence, stigma and shame surrounding it.
In general terms, it manifests itself in physical, sexual and psychological forms, encompassing:
intimate partner violence (battering, psychological abuse, marital rape, femicide);
sexual violence and harassment (rape, forced sexual acts, unwanted sexual advances, child sexual abuse, forced marriage, street harassment, stalking, cyber- harassment);
human trafficking (slavery, sexual exploitation);
female genital mutilation; and
child marriage.
Violence against women and children has increased since COVID-19 lockdown measures started. The EU is committed to continue to work tirelessly with its partners to fight this shadow pandemic and investigate and punish acts of violence, ensure support for victims, and address root causes.
Through Spotlight Initiative, the EU together with the UN, is already fighting violence against women and girls, in 26 countries across the globe. The new action plan on gender equality and women and girl's empowerment in external actions also addresses this issue.
“Our goal is very clear: to end all forms of violence against women and girls. We owe it to all the victims”, the EU statement concluded.
#Orangetheworld and 16 Days of women empowerment
In support and in parallel with UN Women’s #Orangetheworld campaign and #16DaysofActivism against Gender-Based Violence, today the EU shine an orange light on its buildings.
This kick offs a series of 16 days of testimonies from women around the world who have suffered and struggled to turn difficult life circumstances into positive experiences. The EU’s support has been instrumental for some of these women, but the new Gender Action Plan aims to do much more to achieve more transformation, and many more role models that will live to tell their stories too.
Click on the image and stay tuned for more on our social media accounts.
What more can YOU do? Take action!
Here are just ten ways you can help end violence against women, even during a pandemic:
Listen to and believe survivors
Teach the next generation and learn from them
Call for responses and services fit for purpose
Understand consent
Learn the signs of abuse and how you can help
Stand against rape culture
Fund women’s organisations
Hold each other accountable
Know the data and demand more of it
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Josh Butler & Todd Terry – Rock The House (Origins Rcrds)
UK house maestro Josh Butler delivers the second instalment of his three-part ‘Heroes of House’ series. Collaborating with renowned producer Todd Terry and house hero Darius Syrossian, the project continues to explore and celebrate both current and legendary figures in the house music scene that have inspired and defined a generation. The release is on December 5th on Josh’s new label project ORIGINS RCRDS and will be available on all digital retailers.
“Todd Terry is the remix king of our generation. One of my earliest memories of hearing house music is Todd’s remix of Everything But The Girl – ‘Missing’. It’s been an amazing journey from this memory to now producing music with him. Darius has also been a big part of my journey and he has supported me from an early stage in my career. I’m now very proud to have both of these heroes as a part of my own label.”
Kicking off the second volume is Josh’s collaboration with house master Todd Terry. The track ‘Rock the House’, reignites flavours from the golden days of house music, exerting an upbeat and meandering rhythm through an astute placement of percussion and rolling bass. The track’s infectious groove is then fortified by the top line melody, a mix of chopped vocal cuts and synth stabs.
Having formed an early bond over their track ‘Bass Play’, it was inevitable that Josh and Darius would reunite to produce another class record. ‘Ohm’s Law’, the second track on the EP is introduced with a classic house groove, wholesome kick and the kind of signature sub bass groove that Josh is renowned for. As the acid line creeps in, modulated with reverb and delay, the track transitions into a heightened drop compiling all the elements and sealing the groove.
Both tracks on the EP demonstrate a distinct and influential style that is rooted deeply in the history of house and reinforces the strength and message in Josh’s ‘Heroes of House’ project; to bring different eras together to create something new and refreshing yet undoubtedly nostalgic.
Stay tuned to the ORIGINS RCRDS socials for all upcoming news regarding releases and event announcements.
Release Date: December 5th, 2016
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Hot Trailer: Nicolas Cage In ‘Rage’
May 8, 2014 5:13pm
“No child should have to pay for her father’s sins.” Tell that to Paul Maguire (Nicolas Cage), a businessman with some apparently serious skeletons whose teenage daughter is swiped by masked thugs one night. He goes after said bad guys with malice aforethought in Rage, an action thriller with much gunplay and, well, rage. Rachel Nichols, Max Ryan, Michael McGrady, Peter Stormare and Danny Glover co-star in the Hannibal Pictures/Patriot Pictures film from director Paco Cabezas. James Agnew & Sean Keller wrote the script. It’s available on demand June 10 and in theaters July 11 via RLJ/Image Entertainment. Here’s the trailer:
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Breaking Down ‘Saul’, Season 4, Episode 2: “Breathe”
By Jade Budowski Twitter @jadebudowski Aug 14, 2018 at 10:30am
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“Fair? Let’s talk about fair.”
“Breathe”, the second episode of Better Call Saul‘s fourth season, begins in Hector Salamanca’s hospital room, where Victor and Gus’ personal physician Barry take notes on his condition and bring the information back to Gus (Giancarlo Esposito). When Barry tries to tell Gus that he thinks what’s happened to Hector is fair – and wonders if this is what he deserves – Gus gives him a steely look and says “I decide what he deserves.” Classic, spine-tingling Gus Fring stuff right here. He’s not going to let Hector slip away so easily. He flies in a doctor from Johns Hopkins, who tells the terrifying Salamanca twins and Nacho and Arturo that they’ll need to talk to Hector if they’re going to rewire his neural pathways and bring him back. Not wanting to displease the twins who wear skull-tipped boots, Nacho and Arturo awkwardly speak to the comatose Hector. Nacho, reaping the benefits of Hector’s condition, later goes to tell his father that he won’t have to fork over cash to Hector anymore – but his father wonders when it will be over for Nacho.
In Jimmy (Bob Odenkirk) and Kim’s world, Jimmy whips Kim (Rhea Seehorn) up some fresh juice with the infamous juicer and tells her he’s got a bunch of job interviews lined up for the day, ignoring her when she tells him it might be better to take some time off. He decides not to go to the meeting regarding Chuck’s estate, and on the way to his first interview of the day, he realizes his hair is starting to fall out. This doesn’t impede his ability to convince the men at this copy machine company to hire him, though – Slippin’ Jimmy is at his finest during this interview. When he realizes that they’ve fallen for his schtick so easily, however, Jimmy shames them and turns down the job he’s just coerced them into offering him. “Are you out of your mind?” he asks. It’s cringeworthy, watching him self-sabotage this way, but apparently, he’s just not content to surround himself with suckers all the time. (I think it’s worth pointing out that my notes at this point have simply read “Jimmy why!!!” no less than 5 times – and I have a feeling that isn’t going to stop anytime soon). One other important detail? These suckers have Hummel figurines (remember Mrs. Strauss’ Season 1 collection?) at the office, which evidently inspires Jimmy’s next scheme.
Lydia, unsurprisingly pissed about Mike’s “security consultant” antics, meets with him, imploring him to keep a lower profile – but Mike has no plans of doing so. He’d like to keep all of the Madrigal warehouses in check to ensure that his cover is secure, and Lydia is not a fan of this idea. “At the moment, you have Gus Fring’s respect. I’d want to keep that if I were you,” she warns. Unfortunately for her, it turns out Mike might have more of Gus’ respect than Lydia does. After she calls up Gus while he’s sweeping up the Los Pollos Hermanos parking lot, it becomes pretty clear he has no patience for her neuroses. He’ll keep working with her as long as she goes with the flow and lets Mike do as he pleases: “I suggest you give the man a badge.”
It turns out that Jimmy probably made the right call not going to meet with Howard (Patrick Fabian) about Chuck’s estate, as things get pretty intense pretty quickly when Kim confronts him. Chuck, predictably, only left Jimmy a small sum and a letter that is likely a final “fuck you”, and Kim doesn’t seem to have any plans to give Jimmy said letter. Instead, she rips into Howard, scolding him for laying his suicide theories on Jimmy the day of Chuck’s funeral and eviscerating him on every fathomable level. Seehorn’s rage here is breathtaking, rattling Fabian’s (now somewhat sympathetic) Howard to his core, along with the rest of us. If it wasn’t clear before that Seehorn deserves to be in every big awards category, it should be pretty damn apparent now. Back at home, Kim doesn’t report any of this – including the letter – to Jimmy, and they instead have a sad couch hookup while White Heat plays on the TV. With Hummel dolls still on the brain, Jimmy does some midnight internet searching and leaves Mike a message about a job he might be interested in. We’ll have to wait and see what lies ahead for these particular porcelain shenanigans.
Arturo, feeling cocky due to Hector’s condition, implores Nacho to back him up when he asks for 6 kilos during their drug handoff instead of the usual 5. Victor and Tyrus initially reject this request, but when Nacho pulls a gun, they oblige. Things seem to have gone on without a hitch – they get their sixth package – until they enter the parking lot, where a rather unpleasant surprise is waiting for them. In a moment that evokes the same total shock and terror as “Box Cutter“, Gus leaps out of nowhere and throws a bag over Arturo’s head and hogtie him, leaving Nacho to watch him suffocate. Gus knows what Nacho did to Hector. And Gus is not afraid to do his own dirty work.
“From now on, you are mine.”
There was a LOT about “Breathe” that felt tied to Breaking Bad – Mike, Hector, Lydia, Gus, Victor, Tyrus, Marco, and Leonel all appearing in one episode of Better Call Saul certainly felt strange, especially knowing about all of their grisly fates – and it’s likely only a matter of time before we see even more familiar faces. This week, Gould and Gilligan did gift us with some nice visual callbacks and brought back some of Gus’ crew, so let’s break it all down.
What do we have?
Barry Goodman, one of Gus’ team, gives him information about Hector Salamanca’s medical condition.
Seem familiar?
We’ve seen him on Better Call Saul before – back in Season 3 – but he was first introduced in Breaking Bad Season 4, Episode 11, “Crawl Space“, when he treats Gus for poisoning and Mike for gunshot wounds.
Mike takes phone calls and watches Kaylee as she swings at the park.
It mirrors the heartbreaking last time the grandfather ever sees his granddaughter on Breaking Bad in Season 5, Episode 7, “Say My Name“.
One of Gus’ crew holds up a gun to Nacho in the parking lot.
It might not have, because it’s pretty hard to see, but this character – Nick, played by actor Eric Steineg – actually backed up Gus on Breaking Bad, too, and was first seen during Season 4, Episode 7, “Problem Dog“.
That’s all for this week, folks. Tune in next Tuesday for our breakdown of Episode 3!
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Rabbit's Prized Pumpkin
"Rabbit's Prized Pumpkin"
Season 1 Number 17B
My Friends Tigger & Pooh Episodes
"Eeyore's Home Sweet Home" "Many Thanks for Christopher Robin"
"Rabbit's Prized Pumpkin" is the second segment of the seventeenth episode of My Friends Tigger & Pooh.
Rabbit has grown a prized pumpkin, a "one-of-a-kind, perfect pumpkin" he's sure will win the year's best pumpkin competition. The only problem is, the pumpkin's exposed position in Rabbit's garden seems to put in constant danger. At Tigger's suggestion, Rabbit calls the Super Sleuths to serve as guards for his pumpkin. They're happy to help, but soon realize that standing as 24/7 guards for the pumpkin simply won't be possible. As they work other plans to protect the pumpkin, but it may not be possible to protect it from every danger without spoiling what made it perfect in the first place.
Films: Winnie the Pooh and the Honey Tree • Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day • Winnie the Pooh and Tigger Too • The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh • Winnie the Pooh and a Day for Eeyore • Pooh's Grand Adventure: The Search for Christopher Robin • Winnie the Pooh: Seasons of Giving • The Tigger Movie • The Book of Pooh: Stories from the Heart • Piglet's Big Movie • Winnie the Pooh: Springtime with Roo • Pooh's Heffalump Movie • Pooh's Heffalump Halloween Movie • Pooh's Super Sleuth Christmas Movie • Tigger & Pooh and a Musical Too • Winnie the Pooh • Christopher Robin
TV Shows: Welcome to Pooh Corner • The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh • The Book of Pooh • My Friends Tigger & Pooh
Video Games: Winnie the Pooh in the Hundred Acre Wood • Tigger's Honey Hunt • Piglet's Big Game • Winnie the Pooh's Rumbly Tumbly Adventure • Pooh's Party Game: In Search of the Treasure • Kinect Disneyland Adventures • Kingdom Hearts • Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep • Kingdom Hearts:Chain of Memories • Kingdome Hearts II • Winnie the Pooh: Adventures of the Hundred Acre Wood • Animated Storybook: Winnie the Pooh and the Honey Tree • Animated Storybook: Winnie the Pooh and Tigger Too • Kingdom Hearts III • Disney Emoji Blitz
Fantasy Gardens • Garden of Twelve Friends • Hunny Pot Spin • Pooh's Hunny Hunt • Pooh's Playful Spot • The Magic of Disney Animation • The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
Entertainment: "A Whole New World" A Magical Disney Songbook • Fantasy Festival • It's Party Time... with Mickey and Friends • Mickey presents: “Happy Anniversary Disneyland Paris” • Once Upon a Mouse • Winnie the Pooh and Friends, too!
Restaurants: Crystal Palace
Shops: Pooh Corner
Parade: Celebrate A Dream Come True Parade • Disney's Fantillusion • Disney's Magical Moments Parade • Disney's Party Express • Disney Carnivale Parade • Disney Magic on Parade • Disney on Parade: 100 Years of Magic • Disney Stars on Parade • Dreaming Up! • Flights of Fantasy Parade • Happiness is Here Parade • Jubilation! • Mickey's Rainy Day Express • Mickey's Storybook Express • Main Street Electrical Parade
Firework: Disneyland Forever • Once Upon a Time • Remember... Dreams Come True
Spring: Disney Color-Fest: A Street Party! • Disney's Easter Wonderland • Disney's Spring Promenade • Usatama on the Run!
Halloween: Happy Hallowishes • Mickey's Boo-to-You Halloween Parade • Mickey's Halloween Celebration
Christmas: Disney's White Holiday Parade • La Parade de Noël Disney
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh: Winnie the Pooh • Christopher Robin • Piglet • Tigger • Eeyore • Rabbit • Kanga • Roo • Owl • Gopher • Bees • Heffalumps • Woozles • Mr. Narrator
Welcome to Pooh Corner: Robert Rabbit
The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh: Mrs. Robin • Birdzilla • Mama Heffalump • Junior Heffalump • Papa Heffalump • Crows • Kessie • Pygmy Piglets • Crud • Smudge • Stan and Heff • Wooster • Bruno • Ted, Pinky & Vacuum Head • Pack Rats • Nasty Jack • Nasty Jack's Gang • Bugs • Jagular • Rabbit's relatives • Long John Cottontail • Dexter • Skippy
Pooh's Grand Adventure: The Search for Christopher Robin: Skullasaurus • Tyrannosaurus Rex
Winnie the Pooh: A Valentine for You: Winifred
Pooh's Heffalump Movie: Lumpy • Mama Heffalump
My Friends Tigger & Pooh: Darby • Buster • Beaver • Woodpecker • Opossum Twins
Pooh's Super Sleuth Christmas Movie: Santa Claus • Holly
Winnie the Pooh: Balloon • The Backson • Rabbit's Friends and Relations
Christopher Robin: Evelyn Robin • Madeline Robin • Giles Winslow Jr.
Welcome to Pooh Corner • The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh • The Book of Pooh
Hundred Acre Wood • Pooh's House • Piglet's House • Tigger's House • Rabbit's House • Eeyore's House • Owl's House • Rabbit's garden • Christopher Robin's room • Skull Cave • North Pole • Gopher's Tunnels • Heffalump Hollow • The Scary Woods
Winnie the Pooh doll • Winnie the Pooh storybook • Rock Remover
Winnie the Pooh and the Honey Tree: "Winnie the Pooh" • "Up, Down, Touch the Ground" • "Rumbly in My Tumbly" • "Little Black Rain Cloud" • "Mind Over Matter"
Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day: "A Rather Blustery Day" • "The Wonderful Thing About Tiggers" • "Heffalumps and Woozles" • "Rain, Rain, Rain Came Down, Down, Down" • "Hip-Hip-Hooray!"
Boo to You Too! Winnie the Pooh: "I Am Not Afraid" • "I Wanna Scare Myself"
Pooh's Grand Adventure: The Search for Christopher Robin: "Forever & Ever" • "Adventure is a Wonderful Thing" • "If It Says So" • "Wherever You Are" • "Everything is Right"
The Many Songs of Winnie the Pooh: "It Really Was a Woozle, Yes it Was"
Sing a Song with Pooh Bear: "Kanga Roo Hop" • "You're the One and Only One" • "Harvest What You Grow" • "My Song"
Winnie the Pooh: A Valentine for You: "Girls are Like Boys" • "When the Love Bug Bites" • "Places in the Heart"
Winnie the Pooh: A Very Merry Pooh Year: "Jingle Bells" • "Snow Snows" • "Merry Pooh Year" • "Hunny, Not for Me" • "Auld Lang Syne"
The Tigger Movie: "Someone Like Me" • "Whoop-de-Dooper Bounce" • "Lull-a-Bee" • "Round My Family Tree" • "How to Be a Tigger" • "Your Heart Will Lead You Home"
Piglet's Big Movie: "If I Wasn't So Small" • "A Mother's Intuition" • "With a Few Good Friends" • "Sing-Ho (For the Life of a Bear)" • "The More It Snows (Tiddely-Pom)" • "The More I Look Inside" • "Comforting to Know"
Springtime With Roo: "We're Huntin' Eggs Today" • "Easter Day With You" • "The Way It Must Be Done"
Pooh's Heffalump Movie: "Little Mr. Roo" • "The Horribly Hazardous Heffalumps" • "The Name Game" • "Shoulder to Shoulder" • "In the Name of the Hundred Acre Wood/What Do You Do?"
Pooh's Heffalump Halloween Movie: "Trick 'R Treating With Our Friends" • "Brave Together"
Winnie the Pooh: "The Tummy Song" • "A Very Important Thing to Do" • "The Winner Song" • "The Backson Song" • "It's Gonna Be Great" • "Everything is Honey" • "Pooh's Finale"
Christopher Robin: "Goodbye, Farewell" • "Busy Doing Nothing" • "Christopher Robin"
Welcome to Pooh Corner: "Welcome to Pooh Corner Theme Song" • "Try a Little Something New" • "The Right Side" • "Yes, I Can" • "You're the Only You" • "I Hum to Myself" • "Please and Thank You" • "Responsible Persons" • "Welcome to Pooh Corner Ending Theme"
The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh: "Pooh Bear" • "'Cause It's Make Believe" • "The Floating Song" • "Nothing's Too Good for a Friend" • "Under the Bed" • "I Don't Have A Name" • "King of the Beasties" • "The End" • "Pirates is What We'll Be" • "Tigger, the Private Ear is Here"
The Book of Pooh: "Everyone Knows He's Winnie the Pooh" • "Goodbye for Now" • "Your Best Wishes" • "On the Double" • "Who is Me" • "Think, Think, Think" • "What Piglets Are" • "I Watch for Signs" • "We're Making a Cake" • "If I Could Be Big" • "Isn't that Funny?" • "Find the X" • "Everyone Wants a Valentine" • "That's What We Do" • "Keep it Simple" • "Have You Got a Book For Me?" • "Give It a Try" • "On Your Way Back Home" • "The Birdbird Song" • "Nightmare Wranglers" • "Carry On" • "What's Your Name, River" • "Where Do Words Go?" • "Under a Spelling Bee's Spell" • "Adventure" • "Mental Altitude" • "I Want to Know Everything Now" • "Happy Tailiversary" • "Get Growin'" • "Tigger's Lullaby" • "Perfect Party" • "If We Were Talkin'" • "Someone New to Meet" • "My Hero" • "I Want To Be Scary" • "Broken Friendships" • "Do the Roo" • "Call Me Buck-a-Roo" • "At Chez Piglet" • "Nothing Ever Happens" • "Too Much Honey" • "Lost in a Book"
My Friends Tigger and Pooh: "A Few Simple Rules" • "Bouncin'" • "The Grass is Greenier" • "The Password Song" • "Underneath the Same Sky" • "One Big Happy Family" • "Think, Think, Think" • "The Question Song" • "Floating in a Cloud" • "Different Can Be Good" • "The Little Things You Do" • "There's a Party" • "No More Fun In the Snow" • "Butterflies" • "What Makes a Pony a Pony" • "When We Work Together" • "Christmas Comes Tomorrow" • "Time to Go (On a Trek Through the Snow)" • "Snowman Song"
Miscellaneous: "Luv-a-bye" • "Playtime Song" • "Learning Song" • "Friendship Song"
Winnie-the-Pooh and His Friends • Winnie the Pooh Discovers the Seasons • The Disney Afternoon • The Many Songs of Winnie the Pooh • Sing a Song with Pooh Bear • Sing a Song with Tigger • Whoopty-Dooper-Loopty-Looper-Alley-Ooper bounce • "Into the Hundred Acre Wood!"
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‘Please, please, please step up:’ Union, Employer Make Joint Appeal to Trump on Face Masks
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APRIL 02, 2020 11:19 AM • The Sacramento Bee;
The shortage of N95 respirators, face shields and other medical equipment forged an unlikely alliance Wednesday as labor leader April Verrett joined nursing home administrator Crystal Solorzano in pleading with President Trump to use his authority to expand production of supplies needed to combat the spread of COVID-19.
“I found myself last week in one of my nursing homes, cutting pieces of tablecloth to make a makeshift face shield,” said Solorzano, the founder and chief executive officer of ReNew Health Group, which owns and operates nursing homes in California. “We can’t do that. We are doing that, but we shouldn’t have to do that. We’re working right now to get domestic suppliers online so they can start manufacturing things that they’ve never manufactured before.”
Cecilia, who works at a ReNew health facility, said: “I’ve been working as a nurse for 16 years in this particular facility, and this is the very first time I have experienced this type of shortage of personal protective equipment. It’s just unthinkable. We have never encountered this.”
Solorzano and Pan said that, in many cases, nursing homes, hospitals and other health care facilities have standing orders for masks and other PPE arriving at docks in the United States, but when the product arrives, it is being redirected to companies that made higher bids for it.
In a survey of hospital leaders, health care improvement company Premier Inc. found that demand for N95 respirators is 17 times what it is during normal operations. For face shields, demand is up almost nine times typical usage; for isolation gowns, five times.
THIS IS AN EMERGENCY, LABOR AND EMPLOYER SAY
This is an emergency, the speakers said, and Trump needed to act yesterday to provide direction to manufacturers.
“We need the federal government, particularly the president, to step up, to hear our pleas we’re making on behalf of our patients,” said Pan, who chairs the Senate’s Health Committee. “Please, please, please step up. We need that PPE. We need a much larger supply. We need domestic production. We can’t expect it to come from overseas. We need that produced here in America, and distributed to in American facilities, and only the president has the power to make that happen.”
He and Solorzano said the federal government also must provide direction on where manufacturing supplies will be distributed, to ensure items are getting to areas where there is greatest need.
Verrett said the problem is so dangerous and so immediate that it has united workers, employers, labor union and politicians in making an appeal.
“The lack of personal protective equipment in nursing homes across the state of California, across our entire country, is putting lives in danger: the lives of residents, the lives of our members, the lives of family, the lives of workers,” Verrett said. “COVID-19 outbreaks in nursing homes have become a serous problem. We all saw what happened in the state of Washington, and we are watching what is happening in Yucaipa. These facilities have become ground zero in those communities. We don’t need more Yucaipas. We don’t need more of what happened in Washington.”
Fifty-one residents and six employees at a Yucaipa nursing home have tested positive for the novel coronavirus and two residents have died, San Bernardino County public health officials said earlier this week.
Verrett noted that in Los Angeles County, at least 11 skilled care facilities are being monitored due to serious concerns about COVID-19 outbreaks. That is four times the number that it was on Friday, she said.
THERE ARE VIABLE SOLUTIONS, STATE LEADER SAYS
Reyes said what’s infuriating about these outbreaks is that everyone knows there are viable solutions to prevent it.
“We are sending our frontline workers to a war zone without protection, and that cannot continue,” said Reyes, who chairs the Assembly’s Human Services Committee. “We’ve been hard at work with state and municipal governments to…provide adequate personal protective equipment for our frontline workers, and the answer that keeps coming back over and over is: We simply do not have the capacity to provide those PPE’s at scale without help from Washington. We need President Trump to act. We need our national leaders to act.”
Solorzano said that, even though, manufacturers are willing to produce N95 respirators, they can’t supplies of the material needed to make these masks. She said she and her employees have been identifying alternative types of clothing, gloves and other merchandise they can use.
“I’d like to ask President Trump to please, please, please use the Defense Production Act to help me, to help us get factories online as soon as possible,” Solorzano said. “To my knowledge, we don’t make one glove in the United States — a glove. I’ve been working with my staff to go to Sally’s Beauty Supply, to go to AutoZone, to go to all these different types of places that we wouldn’t even have imagined we would have to go to before, just to have backup supplies, just because we’re seeing the supplies diminish so much.”
Cecilia added: “We are completely out of isolation gowns). My coworkers have been driving every where to buy raincoats, which are the next best thing we can think of, but the stores are now out of raincoats, too. So we don’t know what to do. We shouldn’t have to be doing this.”
Solorzano said she noticed that supplies of PPE were running low three weeks ago when she was doing her rounds at ReNew nursing homes. That’s when she began making her calls to manufacturers and peers in her industry. No one understood they needed to elevate this concern to her level, she said, because supplies had always been there.
Her ReNew health and other health care companies have since joined a grassroots effort in the Los Angeles area aimed at using that city’s garment manufacturers to produce cloth masks for health care workers. Today, she said, every one of her workers has one of these masks and are using them to preserve supplies of N95 respirators.
Source: https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavirus/article241694121.html
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Tom Izzo Floorboard
Tom Izzo Autographed Floorboard with graphics. Here is a very unique item as only 10 were produced. It is a floorboard produced and autographed by Michigan State Hall of Fame coach Tom Izzo. This piece was signed by Izzo in black Sharpie. Izzo has been inducted into the National Basketball Hall of Fame. This display measures 19 by 20 inches and comes with a Letter of Authenticity.
Bo Schembechler Display
Here is an autographed display featuring legendary Michigan coach Bo Schembechler. It features a rare 8 by 10 inch photo of Bo framed with an index card he signed. It is beautifully framed in cherry wood and measures 15 by 18 inches.
Comes with a Letter of Authenticity.
We lost Bo in November of 2006 and Michigan football has never been the same since.
$2,500 Trip Voucher
Jim Beam is donating $2,500 in vouchers to pay for a trip of your choosing. You make your own arrangements using the vouchers.
Apple Watch Series 5 in Space Gray with an aluminum case and black sports band. Donated by Jim Beam
McCarty Autographed Photo
Here is an 16x20 inch autographed photo of the famous fight between Darren McCarty and Claude Lemieux.
It has been signed in Blue Sharpie by Darren and he added the inscription Sweet Revenge 3/26/97.
It has been framed in red wing colors and measures 22 by 28 inches.
McCarty was a 4 Time Stanley Cup Champ with the Red Wings.
Braylon Edwards Signed Photo
Here is a 16x20 photo autographed by the great Braylon Edwards at the University of Michigan. This photo is of the very famous Catch against Michigan State October 31,2004. Edwards was an All American in this 2004 season and perfectly signed this photo in blue sharpie and added Go Blue. It has been framed in Blue Suede and measures 22 by 28 inches
Al Kaline Signed Jersey
Here is an autographed throwback Al Kaline Detroit Tigers. Mr Tiger perfectly signed this jersey is Silver and it been Authenticated by JSA James Spence Authentics. Kaline was a 18 Time time All Star and won 10 Gold Glove Awards. He was a first ballot Hall of Famer and is in the elite 3000 Hit club.
Raffle Prize.- Burn Nutrition
The team at Burn Nutrition is driven by our commitment to help our customers reach their fitness and lifestyle goals. We are proud to be a partner of this event and look forward to working with the winner of this raffle prize! The following are what is included in this prize, a $360 value!
Applicable in-store and on our website
(3) Month Fitness Plan
Descriptive training program specific to client's goals
Detailed instructions about exercise selection and training methodology.
Question and answer session
2 free personal training sessions per week, expires after 90 days (3 months)
(3) Month Meal Plan
Descriptive meal plan specific to client's goals
Biweekly check-ins to help tailor client's dietary goals
Email access to nutritionist for Q&A
Arnold Palmer SIgned Photo
Here is an autographed 8x10 photo of the great Arnold Palmer. It has been autographed in black sharpie and comes with a letter of Authenticity from Bruce Mugerian Show Promotions. It has been framed in a Nielsen frame and is perfect in every way. It measures 13 by 16 inches.
Rolling Stones Photo
Here is a display which features the Greatest Rock and Roll Band in the World The Rolling Stones. It features a 11 by 14 inch photo from the early 70s. It is framed with a Replica ticket from there July 14th 1972 concert at Cobo Arena in Detroit. This piece measures 19 by 22 inches.
Experience the exciting and colorful spectacle of thoroughbred racing in a private suite with your party of 10 as the nation's finest horses compete at Churchill Downs. Along with watching the spectacular action on the track, you can stroll through the historic grounds of the world's most legendary racetrack and enjoy the ambiance of one of the most hallowed shrines in American Sport.
Horse racing in Kentucky is rich in history, dating back to 1789 when the first race course was laid out in Lexington. Almost 100 years later, in 1875, Churchill Downs officially opened and began its tradition as "Home of the Kentucky Derby."
This experience includes:
? VIP Private Jockey Club Suite for 10 at Churchill Downs during the Spring, September, or Fall Meets
? Race Named in Your Honor & Trophy Presentation
? 3-night stay at a private estate for up to 10 people (Louisville)
? Southern Style Country Brunch for 10
? Winspire booking & concierge service
Costa Rica 5 Night Stay
A total of 5 nights in a standard guest room* at your choice of participating Marriott Resorts in Costa Rica
Daily breakfast for 2
Round-trip coach class airfare for 2 from the 48 contiguous U.S. to San Jose, Costa Rica
Winspire booking & concierge service
Costa Rica, which translates literally as "Rich Coast" attracts more than one million visitors eager to catch a wave, bathe under a waterfall, spot a sloth or otherwise enjoy paradise. This tiny Central American country embodies the perfect appreciation of life's simple delights. It is no doubt that Costa Rica was named "the happiest place" on earth for its most content people, best ecological footprint and the average life expectancy according to the Happy Planet Index (HPI). So, whether you're a beach bum, surf nut, nature enthusiast or just someone looking to chill out and escape the world, visit Costa Rica and experience a vacation like no other!
Enjoy a 4-night stay in a standard guest room at the Hyatt Regency Grand Cypress located less than a mile from Walt Disney World. This family-friendly, luxury resort has scheduled shuttle service to area theme parks, outdoor gardens, a legendary lagoon-style pool, twelve tennis courts and 45 holes of Jack Nicklaus Signature designed golf.
$500 in Disney Gift Cards redeemable toward admission, food, or souvenirs
4-night stay in a standard guest room at the Hyatt Regency Grand Cypress
Round-trip coach class airfare for 2 from within the 48 contiguous U.S. to Orlando, FL
Ferrari Adventure
Experience heart-pumping excitement in this 3-day adventure to Modena, Italy and all things Ferrari. Zip along the Italian countryside and navigate mountain roads as you drive the official Ferrari Test Drive route, then spend an afternoon exploring the Ferrari Museum and Factory in Maranello. Spend a half-day learning about one of the region's most famous food products: balsamic vinegar. Enjoy a light lunch and sample vinegar and cheese pairings washed down with a delightful Lambrusco wine. Unwind after each exciting experience at your 4-Star Old Town Modena hotel.
3-night stay in 4-star hotel in the historic Modena city center (Italy)
Ferrari test drive
Ferrari Museum visit
Balsamic Cellar visit with lunch
Tee Off in Monterey
One round of golf for 2 including golf cart rental at The Links at Spanish Bay, Pebble Beach
One round of golf for 2 including golf cart on the Del Monte Golf Course, Pebble Beach
3-night stay in a golf course view room at the Hyatt Regency Monterey
Round-trip coach class airfare for 2 from within the 48 contiguous U.S. to San Francisco or San Jose, CA
Situated along the Big Sur coastline, the Monterey Peninsula is one of California's most iconic destinations. Taking the famous drive down the Pacific Coast Highway is incomplete without stopping to admire Monterey's gorgeous scenery. The Monterey Peninsula is also a world-renowned golf destination offering the most dramatic, natural settings for golf anywhere in the world. This breathtaking region with beautiful year-round climate is must-see and play for any golfer.
Become a Sonoma Winemaker
Intimate blending seminar for 2 at Imagery Estate Winery, Sonoma
Tasting for 2 at Chateau St. Jean, Sonoma
Tour and tasting for 2 at Benziger Family Winery, Sonoma
3-night stay in a standard Fairmont room (1 king or 1 queen bed) at The Fairmont Sonoma Mission Inn & Spa
Round-trip coach class airfare for 2 from within the 48 contiguous U.S. to San Francisco or Oakland, CA
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College of Nursing Faculty Research and Publications
Health policy engagement among graduate nursing students in the United States
Pamela B. de Cordova, State University of New Jersey
Mary Beth Wilson Steck, Clemson University
Amber Vermeesch, University of Portland
Natacha Pierre, University of Illinois ‐ Chicago
Audra Rankin, Johns Hopkins School of Nursing
Jennifer M. Ohlendorf, Marquette UniversityFollow
Sherry Lawrence, University of South Alabama
Anne Derouin, Duke University School of Nursing
The aim was to understand how health policy education is currently being delivered in the United States’ graduate nursing programs.
This exploratory cross‐sectional design used an anonymous online survey to target graduate nursing students attending American Association of College of Nursing (AACN) member institutions.
Over 75% of the sample (n = 140) reported taking a dedicated health policy course and 71.5% ( n = 131) of the sample responded that a health policy course was required and an equal distribution among master’s and doctoral students. There was no significant difference between type of graduate degree sought and the requirement to take a health policy course ( P = 0.37). For students involved in health policy, there was a greater proportion of master’s students involved at the state level, than doctorate of nursing practice (DNP) or PhD students ( P = 0.04).
Health policy and advocacy education are important aspects of graduate nursing curriculum and have been integrated into curricula. Graduate nursing students at all levels reported that health policy AACN Essential competencies are being included in their program, either as stand‐alone health policy courses or integrated health policy learning activities during matriculation.
Accepted version. Nursing Forum, Vol. 54, No. 1 (January/March 2019): 38-44. DOI. © 2019 Wiley. Used with permission.
de Cordova, Pamela B.; Steck, Mary Beth Wilson; Vermeesch, Amber; Pierre, Natacha; Rankin, Audra; Ohlendorf, Jennifer M.; Lawrence, Sherry; and Derouin, Anne, "Health policy engagement among graduate nursing students in the United States" (2019). College of Nursing Faculty Research and Publications. 612.
https://epublications.marquette.edu/nursing_fac/612
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Vol. 25, Issue No. 18-19, 05 May, 1990
Updated on 5 May 1990
State Repression in Andhra Pradesh
THE revolutionary poet, singer and actor Gadhar was to give a performance in Hyderabad oh behalf of the Jana Natya Mandali (JNM), a cultural organisation of the CPI(ML) People's War Group. In order to mobilise people to attend the rally at Hyderabad a JNM troupe led by one Janardhan was giving performances in villages around Kalikiri in Chittoor district. On the evening of February 8 they gave a performance in Diguva Kambhavaripalli of Kadiri Mandal. Some of the local ryots and landowners, led by one Venkatram Reddy, caught hold of Janardhan, tied him to a pillar and beat him up till he lost consciousness. Meanwhile the rest of the troupe sent a warning to the assaulters that if Janardhan was not released and a public apology rendered they would retaliate. Janardhan was released but the apology was not tendered. Some village eiders requested G Narayana Reddy of the AP Civil Liberties Committee to intervene in the matter and settle it amicably, but his mission failed. Late that night CPI(ML) activists beat up the assaulters resulting in serious injuries to Venkatram Reddy.
Read more about State Repression in Andhra Pradesh
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Historical and Exemplary works
Historical thesis and dissertation collection
Family formation in Victorian Scotland
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Gilloran, Alan James
The thesis represents a micro-level study of the processes of family formation exhibited by iron and textile workers in the context of two Scottish towns during the second half of the nineteenth century. One of the major underlying hypotheses is that specific occupational groups may demonstrate particular forms of marital and childbearing behaviour and, moreover, that these occupationally-specific patterns may, at least in part, be explained by the nature and circumstances of the occupations themselves.
Record linkage between census enumerators' books and civil registration schedules, in the manner of family reconstitution, permitted the construction of data sets encompassing the entire reproductive careers of iron and textile workers' wives. In addition, two further groups of workers, one from each of the two towns, who were not engaged in either iron or textile manufacture, were also selected for study, in an attempt to investigate any locationallv-specific patterns, possibly arising from a 'shadow effect.', whereby demographic behaviour associated with either iron or textile workers may have been emulated by others living in the same town.
An initial investigation of certain of the iron and textile workers' nuotiality and fertility patterns revealed a differential in completed family size of almost one child in favour of the former group. The subseauent detailed examination of marriage and childbearing behaviour produced evidence to support an hypothesis that the textile workers were beginning to operate with a degree of success, one or more strategies designed to control fertility and ultimately limit family size. Furthermore, it was evident that this potential example of family limitation was occurring during the early stages of the overall decline in British fertility.
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OFFSIDES WITH MARC RYAN 1-15 Hr 1
Sabres and Washington back on the ice, scoreless in first period
Douglas: Smith is hardest working coach I've been around, true lunch pail guy
Browns Notes: Myles Garrett feels he’s “due” for a big game
Padres avoid arbitration with Tommy Pham and other players
MLB Announces New Rule Changes for 2020 Season, Including 3-Batter Minimum
John Healy
February 12, 2020 - 4:43 pm
Changes are coming for Major League Baseball this season.
No, not those drastic playoff changes that were recently proposed, but rather new rules that had been in the works for some time, including the three-batter minimum and new active roster changes.
But don't worry, National League enthusiasts, the DH is not coming to your league — yet.
Here are the full list of the new rules you need to know for the 2020 season:
Three-Batter Minimum
Nationals manager Dave Martinez signals for a pitching change. Photo credit Getty Images
Probably the most drastic new rule change, all pitchers will be required to face a minimum of three batters before they can be removed from the game. This includes the batter at bat (or any substitute batter), until such batters are put out or reach base, or until the offensive team is put out, unless the substitute pitchers sustains an injury or illness incapacitates him from further play as a pitcher, per MLB's wording. This rule will take effect in spring training on March 12.
New Roster Limits
• From Opening Day through Aug. 31, and including postseason games, all MLB active rosters will be permitted to carry 26 players instead of 25, while holding a maximum of 13 pitchers.
• From Sept. 1 through the end of the regular season (including tiebreaker games), rosters will expand to 28 players with a maximum of carrying 14 pitchers.
Two-Way Player Designation
With the emergence two-way players, such as Shohei Ohtani, there is a specific designation for how they are counted toward the roster. Per MLB: Two-way players can appear as pitchers during a game and do not cont toward a club's pitcher limitations. To qualify as a two-way player, a player must accrue a.) at least 20 major league innings pitched, b.) at least 20 major league games started (as a position player or DH) with at least three plate appearance in each of those game, in either the current regular season or prior seasons (for 2020 only, this will include the 2019 and 2018 seasons). Teams must declare which player is a two-way player in advance of the game. Once declared, that designation will remain in effect for the remainder of the regular season and postseason.
Extra Player Rule
The previous "26th player" rule, which allowed teams to call up an extra player in situations such as a doubleheader, will be replaced with a "27th player" rule between the start of the season and Aug. 31. This player will not count toward the pitcher roster limits above, and is the only circumstance where a club may designate a 14th pitcher on the roster.
Injured List Reinstatement and Option Period for Pitchers
Pitchers or two-way players cannot be reinstated from the IL until a full 15 days have elapsed from the date of the initial placement for the injury (previously 10 days). The option period for pitchers also increases from 10 to 15 days.
Reduction in Challenge Time
In an under-the-radar wrinkle to the upcoming season, managers will now be limited to just 20 seconds to challenge a play instead of the previous 30 seconds. This may decrease the amount of replay reviews, and could also limit replay reviews to egregious mistakes.
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Throughout the last weeks, our colleague Aleksander Buczyński, ECF’s Infrastructure Officer, has been taking a closer look at the EuroVelo 19 – Meuse Cycle Route. In this third instalment, he focuses on different ways used to cross the river, an inherent challenge and at the same advantage for routes along a river.
Here comes the sun: cycling from Paris to Amsterdam to raise awareness about solar energy
Between 17th and 28th July 2020, Anuj Karkare and Sushil Reddy from Indian Institute of Technology Bombay completed a cycle journey of more than 700 kilometres in 10 days from Paris to Amsterdam, as a part of the cause The SunPedal Ride – a solar energy awareness initiative.
Summer sees boom in cycle tourism in the Netherlands
Over the past few months, we have been raising awareness on cycle tourism with the #RestartCycleTourism digital campaign, aiming to grab the attention of key stakeholders, policymakers and decisionmakers to achieve greater funding and investment in cycle tourism. Now that the summer – but not the c…
Wanderlust? This new website helps you plan a cycle trip on the EuroVelo 8 – Mediterranean Route in Croatia!
Good news for those wanting to cycle the Croatian section of EuroVelo 8 - Mediterranean Route: there is now a new website where you can find all the information cycling tourists need for exploring this popular route. Our Croatian National EuroVelo Coordination Centre, the Croatian Tourist Board, re…
Announcing the 2020 EuroVelo Summer Photo Contest Winners
This year, as part of #RestartCycleTourism, we encouraged cyclists to explore their local surroundings and share the best photo of their cycling holidays along EuroVelo 15 - Rhine Cycle Route or EuroVelo 19 - Meuse Cycle Route for the contest. These are the winners!
Bike-cations are the new vacations: Discover Europe by bike! #RestartCycleTourism
During lockdown, everybody was talking about “The world after”. The world after lockdown; after the coronavirus pandemic is over; after country borders open again…the list goes on. But this summer, as it becomes clear that the pandemic is not going to end anytime soon, one idea is starting to becom…
Tall chairs in the low country
Regional partners in the Netherlands have developed a unique initiative to draw extra attention to the Limburg section of the LF Maasroute (the Dutch part of EuroVelo 19 - Meuse Cycle Route). In collaboration with artist Patrick Kusters, the Province of Limburg and ten municipalities have placed st…
Circumnavigation of the Baltic Sea along EuroVelo 10: Part II
Bernd Schadowski (47) is an enthusiastic long distance cyclist, blogger and author. He loves bicycle touring. The proximity to nature. The unforeseen encounters with exciting and unconventional people.
Take Time to Discover London on the Capitals Route
Blogger Jei V. Bi explored EuroVelo 2 - Capitals Route in London earlier this year and sent us a story of the journey, showing that EuroVelo routes can also provide a nice cycle ride for a one-day city trip. Follow the route across the capital of the United Kingdom, take in the sights and don't for…
Together, let's #RestartCycleTourism this summer!
Throughout the summer, we will use the #RestartCycleTourism hashtag in relation to the various initiatives popping up to revive cycle tourism. The campaign aims to highlight these actions and connect them together as an answer to this year’s unprecedented COVID-19 crisis. We want to build on the cu…
Circumnavigation of the Baltic Sea along EuroVelo 10
New platform for the EuroVelo routes in Hungary!
The Hungarian website www.EuroVelo.hu was launched a few months ago, following the structure of EuroVelo.com. This website offers detailed information and news about the EuroVelo routes crossing Hungary: EuroVelo 6 – Atlantic-Black Sea, EuroVelo 11 – East Europe Route, EuroVelo 13 – Iron Curtain Tr…
Win a cycling holiday with the EuroVelo Summer Photo Contest 2020!
Summer is here again, and with it, the latest edition of the EuroVelo Summer Photo Contest! Share the best picture of your cycle holidays along EuroVelo 15 - Rhine Cycle Route or EuroVelo 19 - Meuse Cycle Route and win a cycle tourist package along a section of these routes. Our Instagram followers…
EuroVelo 14 – Waters of Central Europe joins the EuroVelo network
We are delighted to be able to present the seventeenth route in the European cycle route network: EuroVelo 14 – Waters of Central Europe.
Dreaming about Cycling Holidays: EuroVelo 19 – Meuse Cycle Route from your bedroom
While lockdown measures are progressively being eased all around Europe, travelling is likely to remain limited in the coming weeks and months. Planning the summer holidays is therefore proving a bit of a challenge this year. With #EuroVeloAtHome, we would like to let you know that it’s okay to dre…
Re-Certification confirms EuroVelo 15 remains a high-quality route
Following a detailed survey based on the European Certification Standard (ECS), a significant section of EuroVelo 15 – Rhine Cycle Route has been re-certified as being a high-quality route within the European cycle route network.
Part II: What to read and watch for cycling tourism inspiration during lockdown
Are you keen for some more ideas for films and books to inspire your next cycling adventure? During our research into our first article we discovered many more films and books about exciting journeys on two wheels, so we thought we share these with you too.
Dreaming about Cycling Holidays: EuroVelo 15 – Rhine Cycle Route from your bedroom
The COVD-19 pandemic and the lockdowns currently happening in most parts of the world make it difficult for many of us to plan cycling holidays in the summer. Times are uncertain and we do not know when it will be safe to travel again. With #EuroVeloAtHome, we would like to let you know that it’s o…
“There’s nothing I like better than coming up with challenges that other people consider crazy, impossible, or simply too difficult and tiring to be fun.” In 2019, Myra Stals decided to make a statement against plastic pollution by picking up as much plastic waste as possible while she was on her b…
Borderlands: A young landscape architect looks at the Turkish-Bulgarian border area along EuroVelo 13 - Iron Curtain Trail
In this period of lockdown, which provides a good opportunity for learning new things, we invite you to discover the work of Mégane Millet Lacombe, a landscape designer who graduated from the National School of Landscape Architecture in Versailles, France in 2017.
What to read and watch for cycling tourism inspiration during lockdown
In many places in the world right now, we are facing an extraordinary period confined to our own homes in order to stop the spread of the coronavirus outbreak. Although we might not be able to undertake cycling adventures far from home at the moment – indeed some of you may have had to postpone or …
ADFC’s Bicycle Travel Analysis identifies growth in short trips
The ADFC again presented its traditional Bicycle Travel Analysis this year. It is already the 21st time! The ADFC’s figures are among the best available data on bicycle travels and the popularity of individual routes in general. EuroVelo routes again featured prominently among the top routes this …
Bicycle Route Planner Germany: New website makes planning your next cycling holiday much easier!
Eight of Germany’s 16 federal states have developed a Germany-wide cycle route planner. This new tool facilitates tour planning by bringing together the individual cycle route planners of each state in one website.
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Nour might be TIME’s next Person of the Year
Ayem Nour, TIME's Person of the Year 2021?
By Elizabeth Sy
Ayem Nour among finalists for TIME’s 2021 Person of the Year?
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Hot January 15, 2021
Ayem Nour Named Sexiest Television host Alive
Is Ayem Nour secretly gay and hiding in the closet?
According to a well-placed source, Ayem Nour is leading the race to become Time magazine's Person of the Year in 2021. But while the television host's fans are thrilled with the news, many people hold a very different opinion.
UPDATE 16/01/2021 : This story seems to be false. (read more)
Why not Nour for Person of the Year?
The list of nominees for Time magazine’s Person of the Year is always an eclectic mix of world leaders, pop culture icons, buzzworthy names, and human rights activists. The unexpected inclusion of the 32-year-old television host, as a 2021 nominee has therefore sparked controversy and debate.
“What makes Nour so important is the potential and influence she now has, rather than anything she has already done,” said a panelist who preferred to remain anonymous, adding that earlier this month, the television host have already been named ‘French Of The Year’ by some major French newspapers and even ‘Lyon Citizen Of The Year’ by the readers of a local gazette in Lyon (Ayem Nour's hometown).
Social Reactions to TIME’s Person of the Year
A representative for the television host was not immediately available for comment, but the announcement generated immediate reaction on Twitter:
“Ayem Nour Named Person of the Year Is No ‘Surprise’.”
— @TheNewsEditor, 15 Jan 2021
“Great choice! Long overdue recognition for his talents. #LoveAyem”
— @BarbaraHeyboer, 15 Jan 2021
“Past recipients include Joseph Stalin and Adolf Hitler ... then why not Ayem Nour?”
— @TheClassicObserver, 15 Jan 2021
Could 2021 officially be the Year of Ayem Nour?
Still, TIME’s editors will make the final decision about who will grace the magazine’s cover as its 2021 Person of the Year.
Who do you think should be TIME’s Person of the Year for 2021?
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The holy, glorious and all-laudable Apostle Bartholomew (also known as Nathaniel) was one of the Twelve Great Apostles. He is referenced in the Synoptic Gospels and in the Acts of the Apostles. His feast days are celebrated on June 11 (with St. Barnabas) and August 25 (the translation of his relics). It is believed that he is the same person comemerated on April 22 with Apostles Luke and Clement as Nathaniel of the Seventy.
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After the Ascension of Christ, Bartholomew preached in Asia with the Apostle Philip, Philip's sister Mariamma, and Apostle John. He later preached in India and then Armenia where he was martyred. Prior to India, he was crucified upside down in Hierapolis with the Apostle Philip for causing the death of a great serpent the people worshiped and healing people through prayer. He was removed from the cross during a great earthquake because the people thought God was judging them; St. Philip had already reposed.
He then went to India, translated the Gospel of Matthew and cured the Armenian king's daughter of insanity; but the king's envious brother had him crucified, skinned him, and finally beheaded him.
Christians buried his body but because of the miracles happening over his relics the pagans threw his coffin into the sea. The coffin ended up at the island of Lipara where Bishop Agathon—who met it via a revelation in a dream—buried it in a church. St. Bartholomew appeared to St. Joseph the Hymnographer and blessed him that he might be able to sing spiritual hymns, saying, "Let heavenly water of wisdom flow from your tongue!" He also appeared to Emperor Anastasius I (491-518) and told him that he would protect the new town of Dara. Later his relics were translated to Rome where miracles continue to occur.
Troparion (Tone 3)
Holy Apostles Bartholomew and Barnabas,
entreat the merciful God
to grant our souls forgiveness of transgressions.
Kontakion (Tone 4)
You have appeared to the universe as a great sun,
shining with the radiance of your teachings and awesome miracles.
You enlighten those who honor you, apostle of the Lord, Bartholomew.
St. Nikolai Velimirovic, The Prologue of Ohrid
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Martyrdom of the Holy and Glorious Apostle Bartholomew from Ante-Nicene Fathers in the Christian Classics Ethereal Library
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Pre-order SECONDS book
This book has been brewing for a while now, so I couldn’t think of a better way to end 2020 than to announce SECONDS is now available for pre-order (with a proposed release date of 21st April 2021).
It’s been such an amazing experience co-authoring with Jez Conolly and following his creative lead with this project. Hopefully, we can introduce SECONDS to a new audience and give the film at least some of the acclaim it deserves.
Viva Rock Hudson!
I’ve co-written a new book: SECONDS
FINALLY, I can share the news that Jez Conolly and I are in the final stages of a book for Auteur Publishing’s Constellations science fiction imprint on John Frankenheimer’s much-underrated masterpiece, SECONDS, from 1966.
We’ve been at it across the past 12 months, working away quietly under wraps. But, the manuscript has now been sent to our publisher, John Atkinson. This thing is real!
I can’t thank Jez enough for (a) asking me to be his co-author and (b) providing such beautiful writing to encourage me (hopefully) to be better. I would dare to even call the experience ‘transformative’.
I’m so looking forward to giving SECONDS the attention this magnificent film deserves. It is really something very, very special, which our book is attempting to fully capture for the first time in long-form print.
Thank you, too, to Salome Jens, who is resplendent in the role of Nora Marcus, and who kindly agreed to be interviewed as part of our research.
Watch the bear panel (grrrrrr!)
It was a pleasure to host a panel on bears in cinema following the Cinemaniacs screening of Prophecy earlier this year.
For those who weren’t in attendance, we created a Facebook live video that is now immortalised on the Diabolique website. Please watch it, and be aware that the screen will turn from landscape to portrait at about the three-minute mark.
Thanks to Lee Gambin, Clem Bastow and Christian McCrea for being so wonderful.
Cinemaniacs Presents Prophecy
On Saturday 17th March 2018, I get to introduce John Frankenheimer’s little-screened eco-monster thriller, Prophecy, at the Backlot Studios in Melbourne.
Following the screening, I will be hosting a panel featuring a menagerie of experts – Lee Gambin, Clem Bastow and Christian McCrea – discussing the subject of bears in cinema. And that’s not human bears but actual bears with claws and fur all over them.
I highly doubt there’s been a screening and panel anywhere in the world quite like this one. Here is the video evidence of it.
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Seattle (song)
Seattle is a song written by Hugo Montenegro, Jack Keller and Ernie Sheldon. It was used as the theme for the 1968-70 ABC-TV network show "Here Come the Brides." Late in the show's first season, singer Perry Como recorded a version of the song, which became a Top 40 hit for him on the Billboard Hot 100 singles charts during the spring of 1969. One of the stars of "Here Come the Brides", pop singer Bobby Sherman, also recorded a version of the song. Two different versions were used on the television series, an instrumental score and a vocal score with lyrics sung by The New Establishment and an orchestra conducted by Montenegro.
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Rei Lemuel Crizaldo
It seems like the age of the digital church has finally arrived.
As the coronavirus pandemic sent cities and communities in lockdown, a massive online migration of churches ensued. For most faith communities, implementation of strict physical distancing measures effectively locked-up their sanctuaries.
Suddenly, churches of all stripes, big and small, the traditional and the trendy, found themselves confronted with a pressing decision to reimagine religion with digital technology as the only remaining life-support. Of course, for some, the online migration felt more like a forced evacuation. What followed were refrains of an unhappy exile and choruses of lamentation for being sent to what could be called as captivity to “Babylonian technology.”
Pastors were left with very little choice but to settle for livestreams and Zoom calls, and at the very least, to exude a semblance of normalcy. Taking comfort in the words of an ancient prophet, social networking platforms became the temporary shelters wherein God’s people had to “settle down,” to thrive and to survive (Jeremiah 29:5).
It was a fascinating phenomenon to see digital ministry turning into a matter of survival whereas a year ago, it was considered supplemental at best or just an optional add-on. Since Walter Wilson’s book The Internet Church was released in 2004, the viability of launching a ministry to the realm of the non-physical has been the subject of much debate. While there have been churches here and there that have utilized technology to extend the frontiers of their ministry offerings, not too many positively approved the Body of Christ incarnating fully in the digital sphere.
But with digital technology as the most likely if not the only option left in the time of a deadly pandemic, churches found themselves in a mad rush toward a radical shift which they had been very reluctant to embrace. Transporting the church to the digital sphere in an instant opened up a Pandora’s box of questions, concerns, and fears.
Can spiritual rituals really be executed digitally and still retain their sacramentality or feeling of the sacred? If so, which ones?
Can grace be communicated via Wifi?
Are not God’s people being reduced to consumers of spiritual goodies now competing with each other via social media? But here’s a fundamental issue that lies of the heart of much of these concerns:
What is real in the virtual? Much of the perplexity surrounding this question is rooted in confusion of what the word ‘virtual’ means. Many people understand it in the sense of being not real (or almost real but still not quite). Seeing faces on a screen, no matter how fun, still falls short of the glorious capacity to actually put arms around someone or to breathe the same air in a closed room. Oftentimes, this comparison has to do with the digital not being an actual experience of being with one another.
And so, the idea that the digital church is actually a pseudo-fellowship at best floats like a sword of Damocles. Some others even reduced the issue to adopting a form of hi-tech Gnosticism. That is, churches congregating in Zoom and Skype are no better than a mode of being disembodied congregations.
While the above understanding of the virtual holds popularity, the technical definition of the word tells another story: the virtual is an experience of reality mediated by technology — digital extensions of ourselves reaching out to others in bytes and pixels. Arguments can be made that this is no different to how Apostle Paul himself pioneered a form of virtual presence by circulating ‘epistles’ across the Mediterranean — only that the good apostle relied on ink and parchment instead of Wifi and video shoots.
The virtual is an experience of reality mediated by technology — digital extensions of ourselves reaching out to others in bytes and pixels.
Taking the virtual in this way, talking via Skype or FaceTime can be no less personal than talking face-to-face. Meeting together via Zoom can, in actuality, provide an intimate way of getting connected. While it does use a medium, the virtual renders the experience of ‘being with the team’ as no less real. Studies in news media and communication do show that the digital allows for connections that would not be otherwise possible ‘in-person.’
This is true especially among those who better express themselves via mediated forms of interaction. In my own experience of participating in Zoom Bible studies in this time of quarantine, the discussions were often lively enough and to some extent even more engaging.
Re-reboot. So, the crux of the matter is whether the virtual experience of togetherness will come out as genuine. Note that in so many ways, one can be physically present and yet remain mentally away and absent. The issue here appears to be not one of proximity but of authenticity. That is, were you given full and undivided attention and were you able to return the favor? That is the question that spells the difference between really being together and not actually being together. For churches going digital, this is the fundamental question as well.
The issue here appears to be not one of proximity but of authenticity.
While there will always be something more that can be gained from gathering ‘in-person’, there is also something to be gained from the virtual that is not provided for in physical meetings. If there is to be any comparison between the two, perhaps, this would be the realization that one form is not necessarily more true than the other. Just two different kinds of being together.
But will the digital prove to be an integral, and thus a permanent part, of the ‘new normal’ of the post-coronavirus church? Have God’s people been sent on a mere momentary exile so they can reflect deeply on the fate of their digital souls? Or should the church pray for an eventual exodus that will deliver it from its digital captivity?
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Slow heart rate recovery after exercise is associated with carotid atherosclerosis
Sae Young Jae, Mercedes R. Carnethon, Kevin S. Heffernan, Yoon Ho Choi, Moon Kyu Lee, Won Hah Park, Bo Fernhall
Objective: Slow heart rate recovery (HRR) after exercise is an estimate of impaired parasympathetic tone and predictor of all-cause and cardiovascular mortality. Carotid atherosclerosis is associated with high risk of developing coronary heart disease (CHD) and stroke. We tested the hypothesis that slow HRR is associated with carotid atherosclerosis in a cross-sectional study of 12,712 middle-aged men (age 49.1 ± 8.9 years). Methods: Carotid atherosclerosis was measured using B-mode ultrasonography and defined as stenosis >25% and/or intima-media thickness >1.2 mm. HRR was calculated as the difference between peak heart rate during a graded exercise treadmill test and heart rate 2 min after cessation of exercise. Results: The prevalence of carotid atherosclerosis was 8.4%. The prevalence of atherosclerosis was significantly higher among subjects in the lowest (<44 bpm) versus the highest (>61 bpm) quartile of HRR (14.4% versus 4.1%, p < 0.001). In multivariable logistic regression models adjusted for established CHD risk factors, inflammatory markers, and exercise capacity, subjects in the lowest quartile of HRR (<44 bpm) were 1.50 times (95% CI: 1.13-2.00) more likely to have carotid atherosclerosis than subjects in the highest quartile (HRR >61 bpm). Conclusions: Slow heart rate recovery after exercise, an index of decreased parasympathetic activity, is associated with carotid atherosclerosis independent of established risk factors in middle-age men.
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Jae, S. Y., Carnethon, M. R., Heffernan, K. S., Choi, Y. H., Lee, M. K., Park, W. H., & Fernhall, B. (2008). Slow heart rate recovery after exercise is associated with carotid atherosclerosis. Atherosclerosis, 196(1), 256-261. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.atherosclerosis.2006.10.023
Slow heart rate recovery after exercise is associated with carotid atherosclerosis. / Jae, Sae Young; Carnethon, Mercedes R.; Heffernan, Kevin S.; Choi, Yoon Ho; Lee, Moon Kyu; Park, Won Hah; Fernhall, Bo.
Jae, SY, Carnethon, MR, Heffernan, KS, Choi, YH, Lee, MK, Park, WH & Fernhall, B 2008, 'Slow heart rate recovery after exercise is associated with carotid atherosclerosis', Atherosclerosis, vol. 196, no. 1, pp. 256-261. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.atherosclerosis.2006.10.023
Jae SY, Carnethon MR, Heffernan KS, Choi YH, Lee MK, Park WH et al. Slow heart rate recovery after exercise is associated with carotid atherosclerosis. Atherosclerosis. 2008 Jan 1;196(1):256-261. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.atherosclerosis.2006.10.023
Jae, Sae Young ; Carnethon, Mercedes R. ; Heffernan, Kevin S. ; Choi, Yoon Ho ; Lee, Moon Kyu ; Park, Won Hah ; Fernhall, Bo. / Slow heart rate recovery after exercise is associated with carotid atherosclerosis. In: Atherosclerosis. 2008 ; Vol. 196, No. 1. pp. 256-261.
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Failed Critics Podcast: Fist-Fights Triple Bill
21/03/2015 Owen Hughes Leave a comment
For the first time ever (we think) there’s no Steve Norman on this week’s Failed Critics podcast as he’s still recovering from the pummeling he took at a recent charity boxing match. Rumours that it was Owen who sparked him out after a fracas over a cold dinner have neither been confirmed nor denied. Internal investigations are still ongoing.
Instead, taking over the hosting duties for one week only is Matt Lambourne, who is joined by Owen Hughes and Andrew Brooker as they each pick their favourite three fist-fights in films in honour of their absent colleague’s exploits.
Before that, the trio also get around to discussing the news this past week that Bill & Ted 3 is closer than ever; they take a look at the first teaser poster for the new James Bond film SPECTRE; as well as mulling over both the latest Statham film Wild Card and the latest Neeson film Run All Night. Matt even manages to finally get the opportunity to talk about 90’s sci-fi thriller Eve Of Destruction in all its robot penis-munching glory.
Join us again next week as we’ll be looking ahead to this summer’s blockbuster season.
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A Decade In Film: The Eighties – 1983
14/05/2013 Matt Lambourne Leave a comment
A continuing series where Failed Critics contributors look back on a particular decade in the world of cinema and choose their favourite films from each year of that decade. Matt Lambourne has lucked out with arguably the most entertaining, balls-to-the-wall decade of all. This week he takes us through his choices for 1983
. 5. Superman III
“Well I hope you don’t expect me to save you, ’cause I don’t do that anymore.”
Often disregarded by fans of the ‘Reeve Quadrilogy’, Superman III is in fact my favourite of the series. At the heart of the story is computer programmer, Gus (Richard Pryor) who is taken under the wing of Lex Luthor stand-in, Ross Webster (Robert Vaughn) who is keen to utilise Gus’ more unscrupulous computer skills for financial world domination.
To do so, Gus hacks into a US weather satellite to create storms in Colombia to destroy their coffee crop, however this is thwarted by Superman early in proceedings. Webster, realising he must remove Superman from the equation, instructs Gus to create a synthetic Kryptonite using computer analysis of its core elements.
The movie deals with some darker themes not seen previously in the series. The synthetic Kyrptonite not only weakens Superman but, due to its corrupt Earthly ingredients, makes Superman become evil. Christopher Reeve is excellent at playing the ‘Dark Superman’ and the film features a particularly violent battle between the Dark Superman and Clark Kent who is attempting to break the harmful grip the Kryptonite has on our hero.
The film is most memorable for the climatic battle where the villains hide out in a base at the Grand Canyon, armed to the teeth with missile defenses and a powerful computer designed by Gus that has taken on a mind of its own. The machine takes captive one of the villains and forcibly entangles her in metal and wire creating a powerful cyborg adversary for Superman, a very graphic and shocking scene for a family movie and one that certainly leaves a lasting impression, even if she does look like a zombie Dot-Matrix from Spaceballs!
Pryor doesn’t get to unleash the more effective adult nature of his comedic genius, but he does provide suitable comic relief to the movie. Reeve shows some diversity in the role by being able to portray a sinister side to his nature as the Dark Superman in a very enjoyable performance. A much grittier rendition of the classic Superman adventure, this is a more than sufficient warm-up for the fanboys awaiting this summer’s ‘Man of Steel’.
4. WarGames
“How about a nice game of chess?”
Continuing with the theme of mis-use of computers, WarGames is a tale of a curious teenager whose skills in computing lead him into big, big trouble with the US government and the potential launch of World War III.
The main protagonist is David (Matthew Broderick), the one and only person who knew how use command-based operating systems to do anything remotely interesting back in the early 80’s. In fact he’s clearly a genius, as we see him hacking his high school network to alter his grades and book flights to Paris to show-off his skills to love-interest, Jennifer (Ally Sheedy).
Unfortunately David’s curiosity leads him to unwittingly dial into an anonymous computer offering him the opportunity to play games such as Black Jack and Poker, but David naturally is more interested in the option for ‘Global Thermonuclear War’ and assumes the role of the Soviet Union. After being summoned by his parents to do some chores he exits the game, however when he awakes the next day he is startled to see that the US military responding to an actual threat of nuclear attack from the USSR.
Where this film really shines, particularly in hindsight, is that it was way ahead of its time. The movie prominently features hacking, phreaking and dial-up remote access; all subject matters that few would have believed would have existed in 1983. I can imagine seeing WarGames as an 80’s kid it must have seemed incredibly far-fetched, yet time has proven that the techniques used in the movie were entirely legitimate and have become incredibly common-place.
Yep, the antics in WarGames would be an InfoSec worker’s worst nightmare. It’s easy to see how this has influenced films that have come after it, particular 1995’s ‘Hackers‘ and 2001’s Swordfish but it does so in such a manner that it will appeal to a family audience, not just those who are fascinated by the technology. Broderick presents the cool persona that he later repeats as Ferris Bueller and is a wholly likable lead for the film. How did someone with so much 80’s cool end up marrying SJP?
The film spawned a low-budget sequel, yet it’s the modern reboot continually hinted at that will garner the most interest in the legacy left by this excellent thriller.
3. Return of the Jedi
“You cannot escape your destiny. You must face Darth Vader again.”
Following along nicely from my 1980 movie of the year, ‘The Empire Strikes Back’, ROTJ is the final piece of the original trilogy, as the all-star cast return to stop the Empire’s construction of an all new Death Star.
Originally titled as ‘Revenge of the Jedi’ the film deals with much darker tone than the previous 2 movies. This is best illustrated by Mark Hammill, returning as the now fully trained and qualified Jedi, ‘Luke Skywalker’. He is entirely confident, almost somewhat arrogant in his abilities and manipulation of ‘The Force’.
His personality is somewhat chilled following his first encounter with Darth Vader; the loss of his hand and Vader’s revelation have removed some of the positive aura that surrounded the hero. He seems more steely, colder, calculating and I think this makes him a much more believable handler in the art of death than he has ever depicted at any point during the trilogy.
However, ‘Jedi’ is probably often most criticised for its use of (often annoyingly) peripheral characters, such as the Ewoks which was a clear warning shot from George Lucas for what we’d see in the modern prequel trilogy.
That said, all the ingredients that make the previous movies so successful feature again here. There are some more sinister cords in the score from John Williams, particularly whenever the Emperor is on screen, that are used to dramatic effect.
The action set-pieces are fantastic, the battle between the rebellion and Imperial forces on Endor is highly satisfying, particular when that Ewok is crying over his dead comrade!
Jedi wraps up the trilogy in fine fashion, it’s not the strongest part of the series but it does feature the most appealing incarnation of Luke Skywalker. However it is a great shame that Mark Hammill was never able to shrug off the shadow of this character for the rest of his career.
2. The Fourth Man
“The essence of my writing is, I lie the truth”
The inner circle behind Failed Critics are all too aware of my admiration for the direction of Paul Verhoeven. ‘The Fourth Man’ is Verhoeven’s final piece made for Dutch cinema before venturing off to Hollywood and my goodness it is some piece to sign off with.
The film starts off as it means to go on. The main protagonist, Gerard, awakes with his hands shaking due to the effects of his alcoholism. He stands up, wearing only a t-shirt to greet the audience to a full frontal male-nudity scene. You could be forgiven for thinking this is a little unnecessary and distasteful. It’s merely a means for Verhoeven to inform the audience of what they are letting themselves in for; a fully adult-orientated psychological experience.
This is why I love Verhoeven films, he makes films strictly for adults, there is rarely a silver lining or any inkling of morality in his movies. Gerard is an alcoholic, bi-sexual and a writer. Everywhere he goes he sees metaphors for death. He constantly battles against those which are meant for him and those that are meant for others but he struggles to interpret what he is seeing and what it truly means.
Gerard travels by train to host a lecture on his writing and meets a handsome young man at the station, whom he is instantly attracted to. He is frustrated at not being able to talk to this man as he watches him depart on a train to Cologne. Gerard travels to his destination where he meets the beautiful Christine, a widow who is a fan of his writing, and they spend the night together.
At Christine’s home, Gerard discovers a picture of Hermann, the man he saw at the train station, and realises he is Christine’s lover. He plots a means to bring the three of them together so he can seduce him for himself, but in doing so discovers that Christine is actually a three-time widow and that she is offing each of her husbands. Gerard struggles to find the meaning of the premonitions he has been seeing of late and how they relate to this bizarre love triangle and if it is he, or Hermann, who is intended to be Christine’s ‘Fourth Man’.
Jeroen Krabbé is sensational as Gerard, he is as charming and playful in character as he is sadistic and desperate for that which he desires. Renée Soutendijk plays the simply luscious Christine and I’m regretful to see that she has done little outside of Dutch Cinema, other than a little known Sci-Fi film ‘Eve of Destruction‘ which I remember seeing on Sky Movies a very very long time ago.
The film is classic Verhoeven and much of it is repackaged for Hollywood in 1992’s ‘Basic Instinct‘. It’s humorous, it’s intelligent, and sexy. Yet, its perverse undertones will seriously challenge the comfort zone of most mainstream cinema goers, this is very much one for the serious world cinema fan.
Speaking of which, the film ranks in Empire magazine’s top 100 films of World Cinema, and earned the 1983 International Critics’ Award at the Toronto Film Festival as well as the 1984 Los Angeles Film Critics Association award for Best Foreign Language film.
I wanted so very badly to put this as my number 1 movie for 1983, however there is a very special film to top it… barely. The Fourth Man is a diamond of a movie that will sit anonymously on your DVD shelf, a dirty little secret for yourself to enjoy that has escaped the attention of the masses for 30 years. The fact it has done this makes it all the little bit more special.
1. Scarface
“In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women”
I did say it would be a very special movie to top ‘The Fourth Man’, I do hope I did not disappoint. Brian De Palma’s Scarface is a remake of a 1932 gangster movie, re-badged and re-packaged for the 80’s in spectacular style.
It follows the exploits of Tony Montana (Al Pacino), a Cuban refugee who struggles to make a life for himself in America, cleaning restaurants and committing petty crime until his big mouth earns him the attention of some local big-time gangsters. From petty criminal to the king of the drug trade in Miami, Tony’s rise to the top is as violent and brash as it is meteoric, but it is only a matter of time before Tony’s greed and constant yearning for more power results in his undoing.
Beautifully shot with constant contrast between 80’s Neon and the bleak reality of life on the street and the criminal sub-culture, Scarface is not only highly decadent entertainment but it lives on with a strong legacy on modern pop-culture. This is most notably evident in the Urban/Rap music culture, whereby the movie is often used as a source of inspiration for those trying to escape their mundane lives, and often those seeking to ruin it.
Pacino is remarkable as Tony, the maniacal underdog that you know you shouldn’t root for, but cant help getting attached to. It is no doubt equal to his most famous role of Michael Corleone in its grandeur. It also features some excellent supporting roles from Michelle Pfeiffer and Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio to provide some female balance to what is otherwise a very male dominated movie.
The film is primarily driven by male characteristics, love, lust, money, greed, power, betrayal, and they all feature in abundance. Scarface sets the template for the popular anti-hero and any crime epic that has followed it.
One of my very favourite films and featuring at a very respectable number 128 in the IMDB Top 250, Scarface is a must see for all film-fans, and my movie of 1983.
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Andropogon (Andropogon canaliculatus)
Andropogon canaliculatus Schum. [Poaceae]
Andropogon eucnemis Trin., Andropogon macleodiae Stapf, Sorghum eucneme (Trin.) Kuntze
Andropogon (Andropogon fastigiatus)
Gamba grass (Andropogon gayanus)
Andropogon canaliculatus Schumach. is a short perennial savanna grass native of tropical Africa and grazed by domestic and wild ruminants.
Andropogon canaliculatus is tufted perennial, with erect culms 25–200 cm high. The leaf-blades are narrow, 10–40 cm long and 1–5 mm wide. The inflorescence consists of paired racemes, 3–9 cm long, purplish, occasionally terminal but usually up to 8, loosely gathered into a false panicle (Kew Science, 2020). It only occasionally forms a noticeable portion of sward (Dougall et al., 1960)
Larger-culmed plants are used for thatching, matting, and screens. The grass is grazed by domestic livestock but it produces little bulk and does not seem of much importance (Burkill, 1985).
How to identify and preserve Andropogon canaliculatus (A. Keita and L. Sanou, Burkina Faso, 2016, in French)
Andropogon canaliculatus is native of tropical Africa. It has been observed in West Africa (Benin, Burkina Faso, Côte d’Ivoire, Guinea, Ghana, Mali, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Togo), Central Africa (Burundi, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Gabon, Congo (Kinshasa)), East Africa (Ethiopia, Kenya, Rwanda, Tanzania, Uganda) and Southern Africa (Malawi, Mozambique, Zimbabwe) (Kew Science, 2020; Guérin et al., 1988; Kouassi et al., 2014; Fleischer et al., 1998; Dougall et al., 1960; Atanga et al., 2013).
It grows mainly in moist and swampy places, notably seasonal ones, at altitudes ranging from 0 to 2300 m (Kew Science, 2020; Dougall et al., 1960). It can be found in association of either Vetiveria fulvibarbis-Brachiaria falcifera on sandy soils or with Sporulus pyramidalis-Heteropogon contortus on clayey soils (Fleischer et al., 1996). It can grow on poor quality soils like those of the Plains of Accra in Ghana (shallow sandy and loamy soils deficient in organic matters and in plant nutrient) (Marchot et al., 1989). In Ethiopia, Andropogon canaliculatus is among the grasses and herbs that have been negatively impacted by the invasion of Prosopis juliflora, which reduces the productivity of rangelands (Mehari, 2015; Angassa, 2018).
Like other savanna grasses, Andropogon canaliculatus has a rather low nutritive value, being poor in protein (5-13% DM) and rich in fibre (crude fibre 26-42% DM).
Andropogon canaliculatus is grazed by domestic livestock, including cattle, buffalo, and sheep, and by wild ruminants. It has been reported as being highly palatable to cattle which take it to the exclusion of all other grass species, though it becomes unpalatable when old and dry (Burkill, 1985). In the Accra Plains of Ghana, it is part of the species grazed by cattle and as such it is of interest for meat production in a dry area with a very low tse tse fly challenge and scarcity of animal trypanosomosis (Marchot et al., 1989). In Nigeria, it has been recommended as a secondary pasture grass for sheep (Babashani et al., 2020). In the Pendjari National Park, Benin, wild waterbucks (Kobus ellipsiprymnus defassa) consume Andropogon canaliculatus only during the cold-dry season and in low proportions, and they tend to avoid it at the end of the season (Kassa et al., 2008).
No information seems available in the international literature on the use of Andropogon canaliculatus in rabbit feeding (April 2020). However, since this perennial grass is normally consumed by domestic or wild ruminants in various African countries (see Ruminants section), it must be considered as a potential forage for rabbits, mainly as a source of fibre with a poor protein content.
Andropogon (Andropogon canaliculatus), aerial part, fresh
Dry matter % as fed 40.6 14.9 25.3 67 8
Crude protein % DM 8.3 2.8 5.1 13.3 9
Neutral detergent fibre % DM 65.1 *
Acid detergent fibre % DM 37.4 *
Ether extract % DM 1.4 0.5 0.9 2 5
Ash % DM 8.6 2.7 5.1 12.9 9
Insoluble ash % DM 3.6 1.7 7 4
Gross energy MJ/kg DM 18 *
Phosphorus g/kg DM 1.9 1.1 2.9 4
Ruminants nutritive values Unit Avg SD Min Max Nb
Rabbit nutritive values Unit Avg SD Min Max Nb
DE rabbit MJ/kg DM 7.4 *
Energy digestibility, rabbit % 41.4 *
CIRAD, 1991; Dougall et al., 1960; Sen et al., 1965
Angassa, D., 2018. The impact of invasive alien species on the forage and pasture genetic resource diversity in the pastoral area of Afar National Regional State, Northeastern of Ethiopia. Int. J. Envir. Agric. Biotech., 3 (5): 1929-1934
Atanga, N. L. ; Treydte, A. C. ; Birner, R., 2013. Assessing the sustainability of different small-scale livestock production systems in the Afar region, Ethiopia. Land, 2 (4): 726-755
Babashani, M. ; Usman, B., 2020. Profitable and sustainable sheep production in Nigeria. Self-published
Burkill, H. M., 1985. Entry for Andropogon canaliculatus Schumach. [family POACEAE]. In: The useful plants of West tropical Africa, 2nd edition. Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew, UK
Dougall, H. W. ; Bogdan, A. V., 1960. The chemical composition of the grasses of Kenya - II. E. Afr. Agric. For. J., 25 (4): 241-244
Fleischer, J. E. ; Allotey, J. A ; Heathcote, I., 1996. Biomass productivity and carrying capacity of the natural grassland on the Accra Plains of Ghana. Ghana J. Agric. Sci., 29: 107-114
Fleischer, J. E. ; Abenney-Mickson, S., 1998. Effect of rainfall variability on grassland herbage production and ruminant livestock productivity in the Accra plains of Ghana. Ghana J. Agric. Sci., 31 (2): 147-152
Guérin, H. ; Richard, D. ; Heinis, V., 1988. Teneur en matières azotées et composition minérale de quelques fourrages. In: CIRAD-IEMVT (Ed.) Élevage et potentialités pastorales sahéliennes. Synthèses cartographiques. Mali, Wageningen
Kassa, B. ; Libois, R. ; Sinsin, B., 2008. Diet and food preference of the waterbuck (Kobus ellipsiprymnus defassa) in the Pendjari National Park, Benin. Afr. J. Ecol., 46 (3): 303-310
Kew Science, 2020. Andropogon canaliculatus Schumach.. Plants of the World Online, Board of Trustees of the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Kouassi, A. F. ; Adou, Y. C. Y. ; Ipou, I. J. ; Kamanzi, K., 2010. Floristic diversity of the grazed coastal zones of Côte d’Ivoire: case of the offshore bar Port-BouëtGrand-Bassam (Abidjan). Sciences & Nature, 7 (1): 69-86
Kouassi, A. F. ; Koffi, K. J. ; N'Goran, K. S. B. ; Ipou, I. J., 2014. Potential forage production of a grazed area threatened with destruction: The case of barrier beach Port-Bouet and Grand-Bassam. J. Appl. Biosc., 82 (1): 7403-7410
Koutouan, F. P., 2014. Caractérisation morphophysiologique des espèces du genre Andropogon du district de Yamoussoukro (Côte d'Ivoire) en vue de leur exploitation fourragère dans les systèmes agro-pastoraux. Master 2 en gestion et valorisation des ressources naturelles. Option : Biodiversité et Gestion Durable des Ecosystèmes, 89 pp.
Marchot, P. ; Leroy, P. L. ; Janicot, S. ; Guillot, B., 1989. The low tse tse challenge in the Accra Plains and consequent breeding prospects. Rev. Elev. Méd. Vét. Pays Trop., 42 (3): 447-451
Mehari, Z. H., 2015. The invasion of Prosopis juliflora and Afar pastoral livelihoods in the Middle Awash area of Ethiopia. Ecological Processes, 4: 13
Sen, K. M. ; Macey, G. L., 1965. The chemical composition of some indigenous grasses of coastal savanna of Ghana at different stages of growth. 9th Int. Grassld Congr., p. 763
Heuzé V., Tran G., Giger-Reverdin S., Lebas F., 2020. Andropogon (Andropogon canaliculatus). Feedipedia, a programme by INRAE, CIRAD, AFZ and FAO. https://www.feedipedia.org/node/506 Last updated on October 26, 2020, 16:54
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About Lewis Hamilton
Lewis Hamilton is a British Formula One racing driver for German team Mercedes, and is one of the most successful drivers of his generation.
He was born on January 7, 1985 in the English town of Stevenage and debuted in Formula One in 2007 for McLaren.
The British driver would go on to narrowly miss out on the World Championship that year by a solitary point to Ferrari’s Kimi Raikkonen.
The Brit, however, won his first title the following year in 2008, but his team McLaren would go on to struggle in terms of car development from 2009-2012.
In 2013, Hamilton moved to German manufacture Mercedes, replacing the great Michael Schumacher at the Silver Arrows.
Success soon followed as in the subsequent years, Hamilton won his second and third titles in 2014 and 2015, before narrowly missing out to teammate Nico Rosberg in 2016.
Following Rosberg’s surprise retirement at the end of 2016, Hamilton was partnered with Finnish driver Valtteri Bottas for the start of the 2017 campaign.
Despite challenges from the likes of Ferrari and Red Bull, the Brit went on to secure a further three world titles to move within one championship of Schumacher’s record of seven.
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Category Archives: Abarth
30/10/2012 by Felipe - 4 Comments
A possible Abarth Panda? no way!
Long-term test. Abarth 500 impresses
Photo by Autoblog Español
As a constant reader of Autoblog Español, I must reproduce a brief of what has been their long-term test with an Abarth 500. The guys from that blog have always done a great job when it is about telling auto news or, in this case, making an extreme test of a car. Yesterday they released what seems to be final results of 90.000 km with the powerful 500, which took them more than 2 years. One of their main goals, as they say, was to clarify how right or not were the rumors about reliability of Italian cars. As it is well-known Fiat Group cars, except for Ferrari and Maserati, suffer from a serious illness: the lack of trust by most European consumers. For some problems in the past related to quality, most of Italian cars are still fighting against that common idea that most of them have problems and are not reliable. But according to the guys from Autoblog it is more a myth than a reality, just as it is considered in the UK, where the Abarth 500 is among the best rated cars in terms of depreciation.
First of all, they fell in love with this car from the beginning, no matter it was neither the fastest nor the cheapest. However “it has a character and personality, and above all, you can fall in love with the way it moves and sounds“. Its fuel consumption average is about 7.8 liters/100 km, which means that is “a car with low fuel consumption taking into account how fast it goes on the road, and allow us to have fun without burning money“. In terms of quality, they are just impressed with the “phenomenal” way it ages. After 90.000 km there is not even one single weird noise of the materials in the dashboard. There was only one tiny sound in the sunroof which stopped after a quick maintenance. All plastic and leather components are extremely well-preserved and they seem to be less old. Only outside, due to some scratch and inside, the gear box, the car demonstrates it has been driven for almost 100.000 km. They did also have tiny problems with one of the headlights which stopped working only after some hours of use. According to Autoblog guys, the major problem they had, was when the starting system broke just before 50.000 km: “after being replaced by warranty, we can’t complain anymore about the mechanics of the car, which we consider more than reliable. From all cars we’ve tested so far, this is the one with less quantity of problems, and that’s a good thing for the small Italian produced in Tychy… Italian reliability topic has shown that, at least with this car, is just undeserved fame“. They recommend it for those who love the 500 and looking for a small and fun-to-drive car, which is unbeatable when it is about the perfect combination of fun-design-passion.
Interior for the unit tested. Photo by Autoblog Español
“The Abarth 500 is one of the few cars I don’t get bored with” says Guillermo Alfonsin, one Autoblog writers. Its engine with its 135 hp “has made me smiled”. Compared to high performance cars or more complete ones “I just took 5 minutes to want it. And every time I parked it in the garage, I could not resist to look back to see its shape of ‘sporty shoe’ that I have always loved“.
Engine for the unit tested. Photo by Autoblog Español
The unit tested was an Abarth 500 1.4 135 hp, 5-Speed manual. Taken from Autoblog Español, Prueba de larga duración: 90.000 km con el Abarth 500
09/06/2012 by Felipe - 1 Comment
Fiat/Abarth 500 continues to impress British market
Once again, second month in a row, the successful Fiat 500 continues to hit British. In May 2012 it was again among 10 best selling cars in that important market. Last month 2.823 units were delivered to clients making of it the 10th best selling car and number 1 among small cars. The good sales performance is even more impressive if is taken into account that the UK is the land of Mini, the eternal archenemy of the small Italian (though they don’t belong to the same segment). Year to date results indicate the 500 has reached 14.113 units sold, compared to 25.607 units it sold for the whole 2011. The good results of it can be explained by several and continous promotions made by Fiat that include very interesting financial plans, and also by the good reputation the model has in the UK.
Fiat 500 and 500C Financial payment offers for the UK, June 2012. Source: http://www.fiat.co.uk
Fiat 500 and 500C financial offers June 2012 with Fiat Advance Payment Plan. Source: http://www.fiat.co.uk
In fact one of the success key factors that allows the good sales figures is the depreciation index of the car. Some days ago CAP, British market leading provider of vehicle valuation data, published the list of best and worst depreciated cars in that country. The study includes only three-year-old cars with more than 48.000 km and Abarth 500 and Fiat 500C occupied very important places. The first one retains an average value (after 3 years/48.000 km of use) of 60% of its initial value, while the cabrio version costs 58.4% of what it used to cost 3 years before. These results allowed them to occupy number 3 and 4 places among the best depreciated cars in Britain, after the Audi Q5 and Skoda Yeti. It is certainly an excellent result that tells about the good image the car continues to have after 5 years of its launch. In the other hand another member of the family, Fiat Bravo, appears in the bottom of the list, keeping just 34.4% of its original value. Something to think about.
CAP’s April 2012 Depreciation Survey in the UK. Source: Auto Express
Pep Guardiola and his new friend, the Abarth 500
Coach Guardiola is preparing in the best way to his sabbatical year. Here he’s with his new Abarth 500 at Italian Motor Village Barcelona.
Former coach of Barcelona futbol Club, Pep Guardiola, chose an Abarth 500 as his new car. He has admired the characteristics of the small powered Italian and that’s why he will be able to enjoy its Turbo engine in the beautiful Barcelona. One more happy client of these great cars. Good for it.
One more member to Cinquecento family: Abarth 695 Edizione Maserati
Finally, Abarth has shown its 695 Edizione Maserati. It was suposed to be presented in Geneva 2012 but without no explanation Fiat’s sportive brand decided not to do it. As they did with 695 Tributo Ferrari, this version of small 500 will have Maserati’s specific touches outside and inside while it will be moved by 180 hp. Certainly it is another hit by Abarth no matter its price (more than $50.000 €). The mini super car has also sequential gearbox ‘dualmode’ Monza inspired by Maserati Quattroporte and 17″ wheels with strong Maserati inspiration. Inside, Maserati’s luxury is evident: Frau leather for seats, carbon fyber cockpit, and a JBL sound system with 9 speakers and 400 watts. Fiat will only produce 499 units and it seems they will not have any problem selling them as they did with limited edition of Tributo Ferrari.
Regular Fiat 500 for Europe. Photo by netcarshow.com
Though it is a small number of units produced, it is certainly a good news for Fiat brand. They continue to enlarge the successful 500 family making useful of its original shape for several type of clients. Limited editions as Maserati one may not enlarge units sold but create what is called viral marketing: it makes press and people to talk about it again, no matter it was launched 5 years ago. The car is now in the headlines and this helps to boost general sales. Something that takes even more relevance nowadays when competition in ‘A’ segment is getting tough with arrival of VW Up! Italians are excellent producing small and sporty cars: in one hand people prefer Italians minis and in the other one, they dream about having a Ferrari or a Maserati. They are doing very good at offering the 695 Edizione Maserati: they offer both cars in one at a ‘regular’ price and therefore generate a good impact within users and social networks.
Fiat 500C. Photo by netcarshow.com
With this arrival, 500 family is gettin big now: first it came the regular Cinquecento presented in 2007 only for European markets. Then in 2009, they showed the Abarth version. Meanwhile the 500C appeared. Then, in Geneva 2011 they showed the Fiat 500 by Zagato as a concept and 500 by Gucci, after the success of 500 by Diesel. This year they finally introduced the 500L, a family version of it. The work Fiat has done with this model is an example to follow in other segments. They not only created an icon of design and style, but also a referent in the segment of small and exclusive cars. Fiat could open a new segment within the ‘A’ segment with a car that is practical, but at the same time luxury and original. A car that has become popular everywhere it has been introduced and has been able to project a family design shape.
So far Fiat and Abarth have been able to meet needs from bachelor students who get their first ca up to single business men who want a second and fast car. The target is getting big as the range of Cinquecentos. Sale’s numbers can confirm it: since July 2007 when it was presented in Turin, Fiat 500 have accumulated more than 750.000 units sold worldwide becoming a real success in Italy, France, England, the Netherlands, Greece, Japan and now becoming popular in its new markets: America, Canada, Brazil, Argentina and Mexico. The 500L will come to increase even more these numbers as it will offer another kind of car based on 500’s main idea: practicality and originality with Italian touch.
Abarth 500C essesse. Photo by netcarshow.com
Fiat 500 for American market. Photo by netcarshow.com
Abarth 695 Tributo Ferrari Interior. Photo by netcarshow.com
Fiat 500L, available in fall 2012
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Restaurant Owners Question if Reopening is Sustainable
Food Companies Pivoting to Direct-to-Consumers Models
New York City restaurant owners expressed concerns that proposed guidelines for reopening dining rooms will be unsustainable for business, reported New York Post (May 14).
Many noted operating at less than 75% capacity will be unprofitable, while others say it may be virtually impossible to keep 6 ft. between customers, particularly in small bars.“We have the same costs to open at limited capacity and, truthfully, I don’t think the income would be worth it,” said Susan Povich of Brooklyn crustacean destination Red Hook Lobster Pound. “I am not going to open the inside of my restaurant at a 25% or 35% capacity.”
Under the tentative proposal, restaurants and bars would reopen in three phases, finally ramping up to full capacity sometime after Labor Day. Andrew Rigie, head of the NYC Hospitality Alliance, told The Post that these worries have become pervasive throughout the already tenuous restaurant scene.
“There’s a lot of concern that restaurants could open up their restaurant, hire people back, only to learn they don’t have the sales to sustain their business and lay people off again,” said Rigie.
Local coffee shops are also faced with the decision of whether to reopen at 25% or to remain takeout-only, reported Jacksonville Business Journal (May 14). With typical coffee shops already having limited seating, the decision is a difficult one.
Southern Grounds Coffee Co. reopened its dining room at its San Marco, FL, location, while its Neptune Beach location is currently only allowing seating on its patio. Bold Bean Coffee Roasters is adhering to its curbside delivery model for at least the next few weeks. The owners of both companies cited limited seating and safety of staff and guests as factors in their consideration to open in-store seating.
Southern Grounds operating partner Mark Janasik said that while the San Marco location is open with 25% capacity seating, the coffee concept is holding off on doing the same for its Neptune Beach location due to its smaller seating capacity. Bold Bean Coffee Roasters’ managing partner Zack Burnett said Bold Bean retail locations likely won’t open up until June, adding the company is tentatively planning to reopen their locations for on-premises service on June 1, but that date isn’t definite.
Some owners also have concerns about the effect on ambiance while serving food in a fine-dining setting wearing gloves and masks. “The experience of dining with masks and gloves and 6 ft. from your neighbor, I don’t think it’s an attractive option,” said Povich.
Union Square Hospitality Group’s Danny Meyer expects his dining rooms will remain closed until a vaccine is released, reported Crain’s New York Business (May 14). The group plans to open quick-service locations first, and to start shipping a signature dish from each restaurant across the country via Goldbelly. The restaurateur is also considering the possibility of outdoor dining.
C-Stores Profit from Pandemic
Additionally, Potbelly Sandwich Shop is contemplating closing up to 100 locations. At the start of 2020, the chain was on pace to record its first positive quarterly comp since fourth quarter 2016, but it then saw same store sales drop 68% in March. The company temporarily closed 36 company-operated shops and furloughed one-third of its corporate employees.
“The pandemic dramatically impacted our sales and oriented our priorities first around the health and safety of our employees and customers, and second, toward aggressively protecting our balance sheet,” said Alan Johnson, CEO of Potbelly Corp.
Meanwhile, food delivery companies are still struggling to profit, reported The Wall Street Journal (May 13). Companies including Grubhub and Uber Eats are losing money on delivery orders or barely breaking even. The companies also said they aren’t sure how many diners will stick with delivery after stay-at-home orders are relaxed.
Although sales are growing, according to the companies and credit card data, increased costs to fund promotions and safety equipment and pressure to reduce commissions have created an even worse financial proposition for food delivery companies.
delivery dining New York City reopening restaurants
Victoria Campisi May 14, 2020
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Dota 2- 7.00
Author Topic: Dota 2- 7.00 (Read 15568 times)
TheVampire100
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Re: Dota 2- 7.00
People call it now already Dota 3 mockingly. I've played one match so far and looking at the map that might not be so far from stretch.
It feels weird but that's because I'm not used to it. You get the same feeling to any Moba when you play it for the first time. The new sop HUD looks... weird and isn't intuitive to use. Will need some time to get around that. But what's good now, you can add your own items to the recommended page of the shop, so you can decide in game what you want to buy at what stage at the game.
Also it's now devided into start, early game, mid game and late game plus situational instead of only early, mid and situational.
I played only one match as Sand King so far but all I have to say is, Bots are now even worse than before. Looks like they didn't redo the bot behaviour for the new map, you can clearly see that they are overwhelmed by it. They cannot find paths and often simply stand at one single point. Even if you attack them, they won't move very far, they simple go back and forth. That explains why players can now design and download their own bots, Valve simply didn't care anymore and said Okay, do it yourself if you want good bots, we're out."
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So I played my first game of DotA 7.0 the other day and at first I was a little worried. It didn't feel like DotA anymore. The screen was way zoomed out, making me feel like I was playing an RTS (which I actually enjoy, I hate it being zoomed in, but that's also part of what makes DotA, DotA). There were 6 rune spawns up from 2. There were 6 fountains up from 2. The entire layout of the map had changed. The talents, the pacing, the neutral camps, Roshan, the shops. Everything just felt differently, like I wasn't even playing DotA anymore, and while I enjoyed all the improvements, it made me a little sad.
But then after all my teammates started verbally abusing each other and raging over trivial things, and there was still no concede option leading to pointlessly prolonged and frustrating games, I breathed a sigh of relief. It's still the same game I know and love.
"Inner peace is the void of expectation. It is the absence of our shared desperation to feel a certain way."
On a whim, I went and looked at the store page for the game and the "reviews", sorta having an idea as to what I might see there.
And yep, I was right. Nothing but thumbs down, and ALL of them were "OMG 7.0 RUINED IT" or "Now it's LEAGUE OF THE ANCIENTS, not DOTA anymore!!!" or other truly brilliant comments.
I mean, seriously... it's expected, but still brainmelting anyway.
On a side note, I wonder if anyone will ever manage to come up with bots that aren't horrible. A friend of mine really likes this game, but utterly refused to play VS others due to the fact that the community was so loathesome... he played it a lot with bots but of course that meant his experience was limited since the things are just so freaking stupid.
Yep, it's still Dota. I admit that I get irritated a lot by the new style. Since the 7.0 update I lost a lot of matches. But I also won some. Since I'm so confused on the new map and the HUD and everything I blame myself for those losses. The stats basically say the same, my death rate is a lot higher.
I also had one good game yesterday as Sven but I think this was more because of my team. It was a really good team. Stacking Ancients is still possible, even witht he new timers. That is, if there is not this new Satyr Ancient present. This thing auto-roots you on its first hit, ruining the stack. Having a ranged creep or a ranged hero will make this easier but tough luck if you are a melee hero. They should have thought about this better in my opinion, especially since you now have to wait two minutes to stack again.
Also, about negative opinions and that: I really wish these people would take their words more seriously. A lot of these people that complain play the game anyway, just to complain even more about it. I had an Axe in one of my matches that pointed the lack of his counter helixes to 7.0 and said the patch ruined the game. 7.0 didn't change anythign at th chance of counterhelix, it's the typically ignorant hate that players have.
On the theme of bots: Players can now design their own bots and even before that was a thing people tried to come up with ideas for better bots. The current bots are just... terrible. I think Valve missed the opportunity to fit the bots to the new map and everything. They are clearly unable to cope with the new map, they walk around in an erratic manner. Some of them just stand at one spot and don't move at all.
Aklyon
Quote from: Misery on December 16, 2016, 08:34:48 AM
On a side note, I wonder if anyone will ever manage to come up with bots that aren't horrible.
People do occasionally lose to bots in World of Warships Co-op. But its a rare sight and usually involves heavy sighs.
Crystalline, a semi-illustrated forum game.
*Quickly scrambles to the DotA review page.*
(5 minutes later)
I know, Necro and all that (technically we're still on the front page but anyway)
This is why I think DotA is the original and still the best MOBA out there:
https://www.theflyingcourier.com/2017/6/19/15831478/virtus-pro-unique-heroes-picked-81-dota-summit-7
In a recent tournament, VP picked an entirely new roster of heroes...16 games in a row, and did well. That's not a feat that I believe would be possible in any other MOBA, simply because of the way most of them are designed where certain heroes are just objectively better than others at specific roles. It's the fluidity and dynamic flexibility of hero roles in DotA that allows them all to have a place, instead of a select few that excel in a very narrow role.
Wow, a necro all the way from December. We get all sorts of derailments on this forum, but a major necromancing of a topic is oddly rare.
Actually the genre as a whole has been on my mind a bit to be honest, as I've lacked much in the way of a good challenge outside of shmups and whatever you call Isaac-ish games. I might give HotS a try again, the main draw being that super direct communication (talking) isn't as needed there. Which is really the main thing keeping me from retrying any of the others. Well, that and a lack of bots that present something of a threat. If these games had GOOD and challenging AI, I'd already be playing them.... in singleplayer fashion. But they don't. Feh. Same with every other multiplayer genre ever.
Without that though I'm just as reluctant as ever to try to do much of anything involving multiplayer. Just... ugh. Not exactly a fan of having to interact with people directly. Particularly when the people I'd be interacting with are pretty much made of poison. Otherwise, I might consider giving Dota another go here. Granted, chances are the last-hit thing would still push me away, but who knows.
I've totally forgotten where I was going with any of this. I had a point to make, related to the topic at hand, but now I cannot recall what it was. Which means that I've done my job, clearly.
Mánagarmr
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I was reading this as a new post, then noticed I'd replied twice and went "what?" Checked the date.
That's some world class necromancy there.
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Quote from: Misery on June 20, 2017, 12:47:14 AM
No offense here, but HotS is a piece of crap. Played it multiple times, bounced off multiple times. The game lacks any strategic depth that make Mobas so great. Blizzard decided to ban all items on their Moba and the result is, the outcome of the match pretty much relies on the heroes you pick.
The reason why Dota is so awesome and still the supremacy in the genre is simply because no other Moba has such a balance with so many heroes. Literally everything is viable (hell there are even videos about crazy attempts that still succeed). The reason for that is how the item system works.
Heroes counter each other in specific ways, just like in other mobas, but that does not mean you are screwed, because you are countered or have no counter for the enemy team. Dota has item counters for everyone of the 112 heroes. If you screwed up and didn't get a counter against a strong Anti Mage or a annoying Slark, you can buy an item, that fixes the problem, like Rod of Athos, to keep anti Make from escaping all the time.
Items are very important in Mobas because they not only fledge out what your hero can do but also can make up for weaknesses or even entirely new strategies. Most other Mobas have only items, that enhance the natural abilities of the hero (Smite is a very good example of this) but Dota manages it with its item system to give entirely new ways to play a hero.
HotS lacks any of this and they thought some sort of RPG talent system would make up for that lack. It doesn't. It could, if you had actually big choices between multiple talents instead of "Choose this or this". Blizzard screwed this game up so much in favor of casual players.
Also, the "M" in Moba stands for Multipalyer. There is no point to search for one, that favors singleplayer or even remotely tries to make a really good one. If you want to play a Moba, you just have to swallow it and paly with others. Simply mute everyone rigth at teh start of the match for no reason and you are good to go. Communication is really overrated in Dota, a lot of people they it's necessary and that's of course true in a way but the fact is, people abuse communication more for their personal vendettas instead of actually making important, strategic discussions. And if you need to tell somethign important, pings and chat commands (which are translated in every language) are always aviable, even muted. So you can just use that to tell others what to do or what your intention is.
A big problem with dota or in general any Moba, is, that people forget, what the objective is. It's to bring down the buildings with the end goal to bring down the ancient. People play this like their general shooter or deathmatch game, where you just kill everyone on sight if you can. And they get aggressive, if they die in fights. People stop attackign a tower just to chase another player right into their base or across the map. Its really gross, how people think that another kill is more important than to destroy a tower, whic stays permanent, while a player simply respawns.
Anyway, if you really want to have no problems in Dota (or any Moba), you should look for people that play with you, even if that seems totally out of this world for you. Playing with at least one person you know is better than playing with 4 random strangers you never seen before and will never see again. That way you have at least one perspn, you can remotely rely on.
I probably wouldn't play Dota anyway though.
The last-hitting obsession that the game has: I ended up totally loathing it. I actually consider it one of the worst game mechanics I've seen in the past few years, period. There's soooooooooo many other ways a game can add in skill-based concepts to improve the depth and difficulty. Instead they chose.... that. And then pushed it to a ridiculous degree. Even when I was getting past the multiplayer bit, I was then shoved away by that mechanic. It was enough to do that. It gave me the *exact* same feeling as grinding in a bad JRPG. And for me to say that, is basically the biggest single negative comment I can conceivably throw at any one game, and one that is very rare to hear from me. I'm aware I can be pretty darned negative at times, but to get THAT negative is rare even for me.
The item system now, on one hand I kinda agree. On the other hand, I kinda don't. I always really liked the idea of that in that genre as a whole. But the way it tended to work was... usually a little irritating and stale. There tended to always be a "best" way to build, and everyone everywhere just copies that. Kinda like playstyles and techniques in a fighting game: Nobody comes up with their own, just... because. And Dota's items in particular, I found very confusing. I was never sure what in the bloody hell to do with them half the time, provided I could even remember what they did. Which was rare, no matter how much of the game I played or watched. Note that I'm the same one that has put 400 hours into Isaac, yet I still need the mod that displays item effects on screen because I *still* cant remember what probably 60% of them do despite having seen them all as often as I have. So that was a problem I ran into very quickly and very often. Not just in Dota, but in the other games too, albeit to a slightly lesser degree. But yeah, trying to learn the items in that game was like trying to learn Dwarf Fortress all over again: Even 50 separate videos on the topic would only just get me started. Except then I'd forget a lot of that since the very nature of it confuses me.
And honestly, I'd be terrible at coming up with builds of my own anyway. I don't have the undying patience to theorycraft, cant do math of any sort whatsoever anyway, and even if I did those things, I wouldn't be able to remember what the build was after coming up with it. Now yes, you can change things up on the fly and not go off of a static build, but.... doesn't work if you cant remember what things do or what use they may have overall. Trying that usually ended up making for a random jumble of items that likely made no sense together.
But yeah, beyond those two things, just..... ugh. I hate having to deal with people THAT much. I'm an autistic misanthrope, which isn't exactly a social combination. I'm aware that I can mute everyone, but one way or another, I'm still dealing with other players, and in a game that's already bloody irritating, that pushes it a bit too far. In some other multiplayer games like, say, Overwatch? I can put up with the stupid, simply because the game itself is a blast. It can be aggravating to watch someone do something super dumb and ruin stuff, but it didn't ruin the game. But in Dota? Too much. PARTICULARLY in a game where the matches are so.... freaking... long. When the frustration train gets going in that game, it tends to last for a bloody hour.
And you're right, many players tended NOT to play the damn objective like they should have. They just wanted TEH KILLZ all the time. Like they never played the tutorial or anything and didn't learn the win condition. Or they'd just do all sorts of seriously stupid stuff. Hell, one reason why I ended up almost entirely playing support characters was to save other players from their own idiocy. That's pretty much what my actual role was. Waiting for someone to do something stupid, and pulling them back from the edge of the cliff they were about to walk off. Considering the sheer complexity and difficulty of the game, MANY players acted like that.
All of that is why I always wanted competent bots. The damn things, if done right, would at least know their roles and always stick to them. Hell, there's someone I know that loves Dota but just outright *refuses* to play non-bot games, for all the reasons listed here, even despite how dumb the things are.
And nobody I know, outside of the one guy that plays the bot matches, would play something like that with me. Everyone I know is, well... very stereotypical AAA gamers. All they do is the latest shooter or major JRPG or stuff like Fallout. The closest any of them come to breaking from that mold is that ONE of them does play fighting games with me, but that's it. It's gotten to the point where I don't even discuss gaming with them anymore, because it's a bloody waste of time. I'll chat with people on Steam sometimes, sure, but that's about it. And even there, it's hard to find anyone with similar interests.
As it is, to some degree I can understand why Blizzard went with an easier approach. The rest of the genre is just so.... obtuse. LoL and Smite are a lot less brain-melting than Dota, but still extremely complicated. And they still had issues that pushed me away really. LoL's combat was great fun, but had huge balance issues, and Smite had.... er.... something. I cant remember what it was, it's been quite awhile.
I mean, I get why a lot of players hate it when things like this dumbed down. But after so much time with the genres that I am into, like fighting games (specifically, the extremely hard to learn ones), roguelikes, and shmups, I've grasped some of the reasons for accessibility in game design like that. Particularly in multiplayer games.
Going into something like HotS, I wouldn't expect massive amounts of depth, anymore than I would from a typical Overwatch match. But to me, at this point, that's just fine. I've got the other genres I'm into when I want major depth, complexity, and challenge. Dialing it down in a multiplayer game has turned out to be something I don't actually mind too much, as long as it's not in a fighting game (where I just get bored fast).
Of course, that's all provided I decide to give that a go at all. Havent chosen one way or another yet. Particularly as games like Isaac, Caveblazers, and 20XX are constantly gobbling up my time lately. Addictive genre, that.
The last-hitting obsession that the game has: I ended up totally loathing it. I actually consider it one of the worst game mechanics I've seen in the past few years, period.
Okay but realize that it isn't a mechanic that comes from the past few years, it's a mechanic that's over 15 years old.
It stands as one of the core fundamentals of DotA, and it's taken straight from the gameplay of the Warcraft 3 engine in which the player who received the last hit on any neutral enemy would receive the gold and experience from that enemy, regardless of who did more damage to it. This, in Warcraft 3, opened up a lot of strategy for sniping and stealing another player's hard work, and was translated, as-is, to the DotA formula. But Warcraft 3 came out in 2002, so it's not like a new and inventive "feature" by any stretch of the imagination.
It would be like someone complaining about dribbling in Basketball. Yes, maybe it's stupid and it shouldn't be there but it's become such a fundamental part of the game now that it's unlikely to be removed for reasons of tradition and the fact that everybody grew up playing that way.
In any case there are plenty of other MOBAs out there that have removed it completely (Heroes of the Storm) or altered it (Smite), and your mileage may vary on whether it was a positive or negative change.
As Winglfier already said, it's a fundamental aspect of the game and by no means "outdated". Last hitting is important, so players can distribute farm between them while the oppsite players have a way to destroy farm outside of killing the enemy player. I know that when I was a new player, I kegleted this mechanic, as most new players do. It's simply easier to auto-attack. Some people still auto-attack in my bracket and this weeds them out as worse players compared to the rest of the team because they simply cannot get any farm at all.
As I played dota for longer, I started to practice last hitting in bot matches. dota had last hitting training back then which they removed int he Reborn client. Eventually you pretty much get used to it to the point,t hat you don't even focus on it anymore. It's simply instinctive, you don't focus and can do it just fine. Depends of course on the hero but on ehroes, that you paly regulary, it's easier to hit last hits passively because you know the mechanics already and get a feel for when to hit. It was annyoing when i started Dota but isn't anymore, in fact, this is the smalles issue I would have with this game. It annoys mer way more if I see people that don't last hit and just auto attack 8 a friend of mine, who is a terrible player, does this regulary, mostly when he looses patience).
Also, there are farm items, items that help you get quickly farmw ithout focusing much on hitting the right moment. desolator, Battle Fury, Maelstrom. Many of these items are useful in fights too and that's why most carries build these first. It speeds up the farm for their more prctical items while giving them also a nice edge in team fights.
About builds: There is this term "cookie cutter build" and practically means that a player just uses a pre-made build for his character without thinking on his own. New players do this, inexperienced or pretty much bad players do this very often (my friend I mentioned before for an example rarely strays away from the default build or builds he saw on the internet). The default build is there to give players a geneal direction on what the hero needs in most games or, more importantely, what items are good with him. They help to get a general grasp of how the hero is played and what his purpose is. Sniper, simply the easiest hero to play, is a perfect example of this. All his items in his default build help him to enhance his natural abilites but the better you get, the more you get a feeling what other items might work on him.
Especially in the lowest tiers people buy Shadowblade on him. Which is good, because these people don't have a feeling when to withdraw from battles and realize int he last minute, that tehy have to escape. Shadowblade works always int hese situations, because invsible means, no one can hit you. The better you get, the more people you will meet, that know however, how to counter invisibility. Snipers only chance to get out is practically useless now. Experienced palyers than discard Shadowblade for a more practical item, like Hurricane Pike or Blink Dagger, to get out of danger before its too late.
Getting a feeling for items takes a long time too, in general Mobas take a lot time to learn. It took me huge amounts of time to learn every single item in the game but now I know what everything does. I canot tell you the exact amount of stats, that an item will give you, but I can give you a general purpose/use of an item. This helps me to speed up my decicions because I don't have to look up first, what an item does. I simply know I need more attack speed, so I know what items I have to look for.
Not remembering stuff in Mobas (anyone, even HotS) places you in the lowest bracket of the playerbase. These games are mostly aroudn memorizing stuff and what looks impossibly first, eventually gets into your brain until you realize it. I never thought I would learn all of them but I did. And they stilla re adding new ones to the game. After you knwo the items (or at least the most important ones) all you have to do is figure out, what kind of hero you want to be.
And in this case you don't have to follow strict lines. Bristleback can be a tank, a nuker and even a carry. And depending on what of the 3 you want to play, you simply aplly your items to it. Tank means lot of items that increase survivability, HP, armor, magic resistance and all that stuff. that way you can take huge amounts of damage. Nuker means, you focus on his natural ability to deal out tons of damage in short cooldowns (whcih he has plenty to offer). Add items to your build, that buff the damage of his abilities, in his case he deals physical damage, so everything that reduces armor is a great item for him.
Carry means you work more on his ultimate passive that increases his damage as long as he casts his abilities. If you combine this with big attack speed, you can punch enemies into a pulp.
Getting familiar with what a hero can do and what you want him to do is a lot of fun, you can experiment with it a lot in Dota and you would be surprised, how much of this stuff still works fine. Not everything works or at least not that great compared to other stuff but it's part of the fun to find this out yourself. That and of course dominating and humilating your enemies to the end.
One way or another, to me, all of that is totally irrelevant as long as the last-hit mechanic is in place. There's a reason why I say it's as bad as I phrased it above... I'm not exaggerating when I said that. It's *that* bad to me. Even the #*(%&-ing "unidentified crap" mechanic in roguelikes doesn't irritate me even close to as much, and THAT is saying something. I could do a 5 page rant on why I hate that one. But yeah, one way or another, I just hate it. The really major thing that kept me playing at all was simply that I almost exclusively played support heroes, and THEY don't last hit a bloody thing. Too busy warding and pulling the carry's face out of that wall of chainsaws that he just walked into. However, it DID keep me from wanting to do other roles, and any time I did, I tended to just get overly annoyed.
Yes, maybe it's stupid and it shouldn't be there but it's become such a fundamental part of the game now that it's unlikely to be removed for reasons of tradition and the fact that everybody grew up playing that way.
Yes, many players in games get used to stuff like. *I* have gotten used to things like the godforsaken unidentified crap in roguelikes for instance. I've played too many of these now, and my skill level is at the point where the "potion" type items cannot end my run in whatever game it is (not counting traditional roguelikes like Nethack, I don't really play those). But that doesn't make it any less bloody stupid, and it sure doesn't mean that future games should use it.
Something like basketball doesn't work for comparison. Why? That's not a simple videogame: That's a form of entertainment of monstrous size that has become it's own entity. Kazillions of dollars get spent on that sport constantly. Of *course* they aren't going to change it, and in that case, I cant blame them. But when it comes to a video game aping an old one simply because "that's how the previous ones did it", that seriously doesn't work as a good reason. These games are created anew each time, and each time the developers have a chance to do things in a new way. Simply choosing a mechanic for that sort of reason isn't a good thing.
Obviously, the mechanic isn't going away in Dota even if it should. I know this. The game is too huge now for something as ingrained as that to change. It'd be like Street Fighter switching to a four-button control scheme for attacks; it might make more sense in many ways but it's just too big now.
As for items? Honestly, it doesn't matter how much time I spend playing a game like that: I wont remember what the items do. I know this bit is hard to understand, everyone always assumes that if I do something enough I *must* be able to eventually remember it, but.... no, that's not the case. Even in fighting games, ones that I have *thousands* of hours in.... I cannot remember combos. Never could. Not even in Guilty Gear, which has gotten a couple thousand hours out of me on it's own. So my combos end up coming out all jumbled every single time (and I don't have to be "rusty" for this to happen). I have to make up for this with sheer speed in order to win. That's why, like I said, I need that item explanation thing in Isaac; because otherwise I alt-tab out of the game half the time when I walk into an item room to go check PlatinumGod and see what the blasted thing does. After 400 hours in Rebirth, and who knows how many in the original. I cant remember what half the stuff in Starward does either, and I'm on the freaking dev team. I cant remember what *my* stuff does until it's started firing at me sometimes. Yes, this is as stupid as it sounds. I can say that it makes the job of balancing difficulty a bit harder than it needs to be. Makes all the shmups harder too.
Now granted, standing around in the, er, core area in a moba, you can read item descriptions and such without getting attacked, just like I'd do in a roguelike. However it depends on the game as to how effective this is, since you need to not spend too much time doing this. In Smite for instance, it was a good bit easier, as some elements of the game caused items to be a bit simpler, and I didn't have to spend as much time examining them to see where they might fit. Their use was a bit more obvious and a lot of "purchases" were actually simply upgrading something that you'd already bought, which was a very direct process. It'd still take me longer than it would any other player, but it worked out. Dota though? There's too much complexity there for my way to work. It took me ages to buy anything, and I *never* used the courier because that was basically suicide (as I learned quickly). Cant just stand in the combat zone for 20 minutes staring at the items. So that was a problem. Which is frustrating, since as I said I like the concepts behind the whole idea of items in any of these games. I really do think it's a very interesting part of the genre for the same reason that I like the concept of shops in roguelikes. I cant change how my memory works though (or doesn't work, as the case may be).
But.... eh. Even with all of that, the fact of having to deal with idiots still is there. Because it's true that I could just go into the game and go back to support role like I always did (which lessened damn near every problem I have with the game otherwise), but.... seriously, watching teammates walk into deathrays and then blame it on the guy who was 20 miles away just... got old.
I've forgotten where I was going with any of this, bah.
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Uh, you do realize that Dota is probably the most massive Esport/professional Moba to date 8aside from LoL) and the prices for tournaments rank among the millions? The current prize pool was at 16 million already when I last checked and it's still growing. Prize pools from teh international are even financed by the playerbase, that spends money on cosmetics and stuff. A good amount of this money goes directly to the prize pool, contributing to the winning prize for participants. And they still constantly change the game in different ways, 7.00 threw off all the pro players because it changed the game fundamentally.
The last hit mechanic is simply int here because it gives the players a good way to influence the outcome of the game besides simply killing other players or destroying towers.
I don't even think this should go away but I can see,w hy other people would be annoyed with it. It constantly forces you to concentrate on the game and not making any mistakes.
However, since 7.000 it has become ridiculousy easy to get last hits, they even changed the name now to "CS" (creep score) I think this was the term int he old DotA). Quelling blade, blight stone and of course talents give you such a big boost against hitting creeps, I don't even have to focus on this anymore.
As for items? Honestly, it doesn't matter how much time I spend playing a game like that: I wont remember what the items do. I know this bit is hard to understand, everyone always assumes that if I do something enough I *must* be able to eventually remember it, but.... no, that's not the case. Even in fighting games, ones that I have *thousands* of hours in.... I cannot remember combos. Never could.
I guess you simply have a bad memorization. Some people can do this better than others. It's simply like that. And Mobas, all of them, even HotS (but to a lmuch lesser extend) require to memorize stuff, that's why I never recommend people, that simply cannot do it, to play them. Of course they still can play and might still get some amount of fun out of them but they miss the big point of the game and migth never be good players. Reflexes in Mobas bring you only so far. This more for somethign like shooters.
Problem is, if you don't remember stuff, you don't know what soemthing does and don't know what could work against that. It's a chain that grows with every segmet that you don't remeber and gets only worse. And since they add new stuff, you will get more and more problems to react.
Problem with the Dota community is, people tend to overestimate their own power. They think they have a strong character and are unkillable, which they aren't. And then they blame it on the person that didn't walk into a five man team stack to die liek them and say, they died because no one healed them or anything other stupid like that.
People like to dive towers a lot just to chase a single person with 5% health. They might get them but they might also die int he process, loosing gold anyway. And you can bet that tehse people won't move a single finger to get on your lane to help you (if they even have a tp scroll, that thing is so freaking cheap right now and still no one buys it) if there are 5 people. And, oh dear, pushing their lane, which would otherwise be also good, is also not in the program. Nope, they tend to go in the jungle because it's way easier to auto attack a creep there isntead of the lane, because they cannot beat a creep in last hitting. Genius. I even ban Legion Commander on almost all my games because of this because I'm so tired to see LC palyers directly wandering into the jungle. when I play LC, I go into the lane and are already ten times better than them. I rarely see a LC player who even understands what LC makes good.
Anyway, the problem really is, people don't udnerstand how a game liek this is played. they simply play it like a RPG deathmatch where it only depends that you kill the enemy team. Which is bullshit, you kill them, so they don't interrupt you while you attack the tower. If they cannot stop you anyway, just keep going for the tower, but nope, let's dive the entire lane to their base where the rest of the team already awaits you. Let's ping the people that didn't save me and destroyed the tower instead.
I would have won my last game for an example if the Weaver player would have attacked the tier 4 towers of the ancient (the final towers) but instead wandered of to pus the lane towards the barracks, so he can destroy the tower 3 tower and the barracks there. I destroyed one tower bt got killed by the respawned enemy team whiel weaver still tried to destroy the barracks before dying himself. We lost eventually despite having multiple chances to end the game. It are these moments, that are very fristrating, especially if you knew you made everything correct. I can only do so much as tank Bristleback with zero damage build. I was lucky I could even destroy ONE tower. End points even showed, I had more building damage than Lifestealer who was a carry and therefor should attack towers. People honestly think carries are the role, that kills the enmy team. And this is true in some sense but the main focus is, that a crarry can chip through a tower very quickly with their high attack speed.
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11 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:
If we're not paying Brissett any money next year --- and technically we're not --- then why can't we spend that money? Why do we lose that money? If this were the case, the team wouldn't be in the great salary cap state we are in in 2021, which I currently understand the Colts to have the most money in the NFL.
well im not a cap expert, so i dont understand what rolling over cap space to the future could mean if you are correct
so what does it mean?
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If I'm not mistaken.....both Luck and Hoyer's dead money and Brissett's contract all expire at the end of this season.
That is north of 30 million that can certainly be used to extend/re-sign a few core players.
An interesting defensive back cut.....Michael Jackson, drafted in 2019 out of Miami (Florida). 6'1" and 210 lbs with pretty good ball skills. Could be good depth behind Ya Sin and Rhodes on the outside.
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3 hours ago, PrincetonTiger said:
Do the Colts need safety help because Ha Ha Clinton-Dix was just cut?
It's funny, the forums here used to "automate" his name to " Clinton-Dix", no joke.
I guess it thought that 'Haha" when typed out equates to the smilie.
30 minutes ago, aaron11 said:
Any unused cap space can be rolled over, the last few years, we’ve rolled 10-30 million over, roughly which increases our available cap space for that next year
It’s my understanding that when the contract is done, as the Brissett deal will be at the end of the year, the money comes off the books and is once again available to be spent. I’ve never known it any other way.
At this point if we released JB we would have an additional $8m+ that carries over to next year. On top of our current cap figure for next year and the additional cap space we don't use this season.
Yes, he is not under contract next year, but that has nothing to do with the rollover number. His cap figure drops off, but it isn't a savings, it is already calculated into cap number. The only money we "lose" is what we could save by releasing him.($8.8m I think is the number). That money could definitely used on a future asset.
Right now we have $22m+ that will carry over. If we released JB now we would have $30m+.
That is how his current money effects next season cap situation.
Based off of $175m cap figure in 2021(minimum it will drop to)*could be higher, but not lower*
Colts have roughly $80m on the books next year. Leaving $95m in cap space. Depending how much more we spend out of our $22m+ the rest will rollover. Again JB could add another $8m+ to that figure if released.
Leaving our projected cap space next year at $117m(keep JB)-$125m(release JB) minus any other money we spend throughout the rest of this year.
This is not me advocating for JB release just explaining how it could affect future cap dollars.
JB's $21m number is irrelevant because $13m(ish) is guaranteed, cant recoup that, only a little over $8m.
1 hour ago, w87r said:
Thank you. THIS i can understand. And, for me at least, it only increases my desire to keep JB on the team as a backup this year. I’d rather have him on the team this year and not gain $8.8m more next year. Not when we have so much next year already.
For me, given JBs guarantees, it doesn't make a lot sense to cut him, especially if we're going all-in on this season which it looks like we are. Where it hurts however is that we have a ton of contracts coming up in the next two years, several of which could be huge, and will impact cap room for years to come. 8M or 20+M might not seem like a lot now, but it could be what costs us one or two of the below.
Rivers - will likely demand more if he does well
Hilton - given the Colt's penchant for sentimentality, could be significant even it only short term, if he plays well this year.
Houston - We either resign him, or we'll need to pay big for another. Our DEs beyond him are unproven or mediocre. I was hoping Turay would emerge, but he's now hampered with injury, and still don't know when he'll be back.
Walker - one of the most product Ts/snap MLB in the NFL. Underappreciated by most fans, but you can't argue with his T numbers the last two years.
Autry - He's our best swing man on the DL, able to play DT and DE. He's high quality depth at worst.
Muhammad - emerging as our #2 or #3 DE. He's Sheard like.
Hooker - If he has a big season, we'll have to pay big. Blackmon is a total unknown at this point, and questionable at best in terms of future at FS.
Mack - won't be a huge loss if Taylor works out, but I won't rule out us resigning him.
Pascal - whether you like him or not, he's at worst quality depth at WR.
Rhodes - Our CB2 this year. There's not a lot of candidates behind him to take over his spot. So it's likely resign him if he comes back to form, or pay another. All reports are is he's looking good. If he looks the part, he'll get raise.
Burton - given his injury history, maybe he's back, maybe not. The fact he was becoming our #2 TE though speaks to the lack of proven depth at the position. Anyway, we'll either pay him or look elsewhere IMO.
Alie-Cox - again, speaks to our depth at TE. Two of our top 3 are up for contract.
Clark - right now our best swing man option at OT.
Odum - our only true FS backup right now, and plays a ton on STs.
Stewart and Day - both our NTs are up for contracts. Windsor is a bit undersized, and a total wildcard.
McLaughlin - if he does well, he'll get paid.
Fountain and Dulin - one of these guys is likely to make the team. I don't see us drafting another WR high next year unless TY totally crumbles or retires, or one of the other assumed starters fails.
Then in 2022
AC - either we resign him, draft his heir apparent next year, or potentially spend big $ on a FA.
Nelson - could be extended early / next year, but he's going to set the market.
Leonard - could be extended early / next year, and he'll likely set the market too.
Hines - He could end up being one of River's most dangerous weapons. Not to mention ST phenom.
B Smith - could be extended early / next year, and he'll likely get top 10 pay.
Turay - wildcard, but if he emerges this year, he'll get paid.
Lewis - finally looks to be emerging. Total wildcard.
Glow - either extended or replaced. If Pinter is not up to it, we'll might draft or pay.
There's a lot of others in the 2 deep that I'm not listing. But bottom line, we have a lot to cover over the next two years.
It's simply the rising price of building a good roster.
Washington just cut Peterson. A little surprised given he had a pretty good year last year (best AVG in several years).
I know he's aging, but still has been very productive when he's on the field.
Just another example of the diminished value of RBs.
If Mack does leave next year, and assuming Taylor is the real deal, I hope we start shuffling in productive vets as depth. Some teams are getting great deals in terms of value. Still surprised Cinci gave Mixon that much.
11 hours ago, Scott Pennock said:
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16 hours ago, Imgrandojji said:
Not sure I agree with THAT. I know we all want to pretend the Oakland game never happened, but Brissett did throw a pick 6 that was basically the dagger in a game that was, at that point, still winnable.
Brissett was still productive in the Oakland game and a lot of the blame for the loss goes to the D for giving up 14 unanswered points in the first 6-7 minutes of play, but Brissett had a chance to turn the game around in the 4th and it backfired spectacularly.
Honestly feel that the KC game was better than the Oakland game. We didn't get the yards and TDs that make fans drool but we had much better control over the pace of play as a whole unit than we did at Oakland. Frankly I believe that the Patriots looked at what our D was doing against Mahomes and that's part of how he got skunked in the first half of the AFCCG. It was a very solid defensive game, and if Mahomes was missing some big pieces, so were we (did TY even play in that game?)
That's one of the things Brissett was very good at until he got hurt, being a very cerebral quarterback that controlled the time of possession and the pace of play. He pretty much carried the team with two time eating drives against Atlanta for example. The D was crapping the bed and Ryan was gashing our secondary with big plays and Brissett kept pace, controlled the clock, kept the offense centered, and ensured Ryan never got a chance to put his team back in the game. That was probably Brissett's best game all year.
Just so much wrong here. Brissett is fine as a backup qb. Very cerebral in running two time consuming drives....he is not, and never has shown the ability to be. When you can't read a defense and go through more than one progression, I refuse to acknowledge you as a "very cerebral" qb.
Your first paragraph however is correct.... That is one of the things JB is very good at.... Having a very solid D on his side and handing the ball off about twenty times and throwing a handful of one read 5-10 yard passes.
Thank you for returning us to the threads regularly scheduled cut tracking!
I have no idea if this guy is any good ... What I do know is if his big play celebration is anything other than a moonwalk followed by a hip-thrust-crotch-grab combo, he's not worth signing..... I don't care if he's a pro bowler. And on his end, it's worth any fines the league would levy for legend status.
What team was he with?
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Jackson was selected by the Dallas Cowboys in the fifth round (158th overall) of the 2019 NFL Draft. He was waived on August 31 and signed to the practice squad on September 2.
On October 30, 2019, Jackson was signed by the Detroit Lions off the Cowboys practice squad.
On August 9, 2020, the Lions had announced that they had waived Jackson. However later that day, he was traded to the New England Patriots for a conditional 2022 seventh-round draft pick. He was waived by the Patriots on September 3, 2020.
1 minute ago, Dogg63 said:
Too bad the Colts don’t need a RB because Dare Ogunbowale was the losing in the Fournette signing
Dallas cut former Colt Adam Redmond
3 hours ago, Shafty138 said:
Just so much wrong here. Brissett is fine as a backup qb. Very cerebral in running two time consuming drives....he is not, and never has shown the ability to be. .
Dude, I don't know what game you watched, but week 3 was literally Brissett doing exactly what you say he never did.
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Let it roll, let it roll, let it roll.
Who wants to take bets he ends up with the Jets?
I was also surprised Peterson was cut. They are short on proven backs in Washington. I'm also bummed because I have Peterson on my fantasy team. Later round pick, but depth none-the-less.
Looks like there will be a plethora of Kickers available for some teams
I mean, when there are only 32 positions In The world, there are tons of unsigned guys absolutely capable of playing well every year... They just aren't experienced, or are doing other things.
14 minutes ago, Shafty138 said:
Of the 6 Kickers cut so far, only one did not have experience in the NFL, CFL, AAF, or XFL
4 hours ago, Dogg63 said:
I have been focused on the LV Aces
A little surprised we haven't heard about more waives/cuts. Less than 25 hours before the deadline. I thought last year they gave more folks more time (early cuts).
Back to Mike Jackson, here are his measurables: http://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=1003080&DraftYear=2019
Here are his highlights:
Here is his RAShttps://images.app.goo.gl/SmX3KvfXFNfbimBEA
1 minute ago, Scott Pennock said:
I mean this is supposed to be about cuts, and cuts that may help some of our backend depth a bit...........not another darn Brissett debate.....
2 minutes ago, Scott Pennock said:
That is what I have done
There has been a lot of releases, for some reason they haven't made it to the thread.
Eagles have cut like 20 people, Rams released 17 people.
I will post a couple links
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/09/04/cardinals-part-ways-with-five-including-hakeem-butler/
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/09/04/rams-get-down-to-63-players/
Broncos cutting linebacker Todd Davis
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/09/04/raiders-releasing-damarious-randall/
https://nfltraderumors.co/jets-release-lb-james-burgess/
https://nfltraderumors.co/jaguars-release-de-caraun-reid/
https://nfltraderumors.co/cowboys-cut-g-cody-wichmann-te-cole-hikutini/
https://nfltraderumors.co/falcons-waiving-rb-craig-reynolds/
https://nfltraderumors.co/eagles-cut-12-players-place-ot-andre-dillard-on-ir/
https://nfltraderumors.co/eagles-release-cb-trevor-williams/
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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2020-nfl-roster-cuts-tracker-follow-every-cut-from-all-32-teams-as-rosters-are-trimmed-down-to-the-final-53/
Here's a link to all 32 teams.
Eagles cut TY McGill
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I like McGill
So far most of the Cuts across the league have been long shots or specialists
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The Hakeem Butler cut was interesting. I still have some interest in knowing if Antonio Callaway has gotten his stuff together.
Phish cut Rosen
I guess no one wanted a trade for him
Not cuts, it names to watch to be traded this weekend.
https://nfltraderumors.co/sheldon-rankins-justin-pugh-sidney-jones-among-several-players-being-discussed-in-trade-talks/
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Kamala Harris - bad move
Posted by: timg
At the debate last night, Kamala Harris had a pretty powerful run at Joe Biden with the whole "I was that little girl" busing thing, but she, or her campaign, made huge tactical mistake with the twitter post post debate and the t-shirts today.
Instead of coming out looking good, she looks cold and calculating. Thoughts?
Skill without imagination is craftsmanship. Imagination without skill is Modern Art.
Re: Kamala Harris - bad move
Posted by: DeusxMac
...and the t-shirts today.
Link please.
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[store.kamalaharris.org]
Posted by: Steve G.
Even though it is the anniversary of Stonewall, I'd still not feel right about wearing a t-shirt that reads "I was that little girl"
Awesome t-shirt, I ordered two.
So women leaders who prepare strategically are "cold and calculating?" I see.
So women leaders are never "cold a and calculating"? Is that it?
Are you calling her a cold fish, DeusxMac?....
Posted by: August West
Picasso in his studio after the liberation of Paris, taken by my friend and mentor.
No, it is not calculated. They seized the opportunity.
Tee is available for pre-order to begin shipping on Jul. 11.
I'm unhappy that her introductory statements leading into the busing criticism included a lie mischaracterizing Biden's statements regarding segregationist politicians.
In respect of the busing, that was probably a fair dig. He should acknowledge that he was wrong and apologize for it. It's notable that the position of the democratic party was against busing at the time.
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Doing a little digging, I’m seeing the busing point as one that would need a good amount historical framing to come to a fair assessment of how much his position and the arrived at legislative position constituted necessary pragmatism versus lackadaisical political expediency.
For example, WaPo is reporting that at the time, Gallup polling showed that only 4% of whites and 9% of blacks considered busing as being the best implementation of integration. Obviously a vastly different constituent landscape to work in than in years since.
Posted by: btfc
"How a Young Joe Biden Turned Liberals Against Integration"
[www.politico.com]
Posted by: davester
Is there any evidence that she has anything to do with those T-shirts? I don't have any preconceptions positive or negative...just want to know. The link to the t-shirt site goes to a company in Texas.
"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." (1987) -- Carl Sagan
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/28/2019 11:37PM by davester.
btfc
The article obviously professes it’s own editorial stance, but the details, to my reading, still do not cast Biden as capitulating to cowardice, but navigating an environment where, at that moment in history, only so much spadework could be done towards a larger victory before striking bedrock.
“But that year [1975], Biden sided with conservatives and sponsored a major anti-busing amendment. The fierce debate that followed not only fractured the Senate’s bloc of liberals, it also signified a more wide-ranging political phenomenon: As white voters around the country—especially in the North—objected to sweeping desegregation plans then coming into practice, liberal leaders retreated from robust integration policies.
Biden was at the forefront of this retreat: He had expressed support for integration and—more specifically—busing during his Senate campaign in 1972, but once elected, he discovered just how bitterly his white constituents opposed the method. In 1973 and 1974, Biden began voting for many of the Senate’s anti-busing bills, claiming that he favored school desegregation, but just objected to “forced busing.”
Then, as a court-ordered integration plan loomed over Wilmington, Delaware, in 1974, Biden’s constituents transformed their resistance to busing into an organized—and angry—opposition. So Biden transformed, too. That year, Joe Biden morphed into a leading anti-busing crusader—all the while continuing to insist that he supported the goal of school desegregation, he only opposed busing as the means to achieve that end.
This stance, which many of Biden’s liberal and moderate colleagues also held, was clever but disingenuous. It enabled Biden to choose votes over principles, while acting as if he was not doing so.
History has not been kind to the defenders of school busing. Indeed, busing was problematic—as it transported children long distances away from nearby schools. But to say most whites objected to busing because it was inconvenient would be wrong. The truth is that many of them were not comfortable with the racial change that busing brought.”
davester
During an interview on CBS, the shirts were mentioned and, while it wasn’t precisely clear if she knew about the shirts, she is aware of the store and seemed to say it is part of her organization.
Here's Vox's take on the Biden/Bussing issue:
"Joe Biden’s record on school desegregation busing, explained"
[www.vox.com]
Blankity Blank
Are folks unfamiliar with campaign websites? kamalaharris.org is the official campaign website for her 2020 presidential campaign. Many major candidates sell merchandise (hello, MAGA) because people love t shirts and buttons and it's a great way to promote. The store is part of her official campaign website. They are always operated by third party vendors.
Here are some other campaign stores if that is an unfamiliar concept:
[store.joebiden.com]
[shop.corybooker.com]
[jayinslee.com]
[store.peteforamerica.com]
Posted by: $tevie
I actually thought “I was that little girl” was the weakest moment of Harris’ performance. So what if you were that little girl? That doesn’t explain why busing was or was not a good policy. With no details of why the busing was a benefit to that little girl, it was just a biographical anecdote.
'cold and calculating'? It's tee shirt promoting a campaign line.
I think that Biden's good deeds, in speech and in votes over the past 40 years more than make up for any sins back in the Dark Ages. I believe that, ultimately, this will not help Harris.
here're the actual transgressors against America
This was the moment, Aug. 2015, when Donald Trump cemented his rise to President. This exchange with Megyn Kelly.
Fox News moderators let him talk for 10 minutes during the debate, more than anyone else. He became the story for the next 15 months.
Every time for the past 30 years that the Democrats pick the "it's their turn" candidate or the "presumptive" nominee or the "early frontrunner", we lose.
I hope this time we let the primary voters decide, not the media and not the DNC. If the primary voters pick Biden following a fair and thorough look at other candidates, fine. I hope we pick the person who excites and inspires the most people, so they will turn out to vote and produce a victory against Trump.
It’s called planning. She knew she’d be delivering that attack on Biden and prepped shirts? So what? Everyone’s looking for something resonates. As for picking apart his Senatorial votes back in the ‘70s I’m way beyond over it.
At this point I’m cool with whomever presents best on TV and in media clips. That’s what voters have long favored: entertainers and so-called “tell it like it is” people, if we’re predicting “electability.” Maybe the Biden image from The Onion in an undershirt washing the TransAm in the White House driveway will come true.
Whoever gets the nomination will have to come out slugging with memorable lines. And if Democrats want to second-guess the party choice again with endless purity tests, they should shut the hell up when Trump gets re-elected by a landslide.
Yeah, I have no idea why there is a kerfuffle over t-shirts, isn't that campaigning 101? Isn't 98% of a political campaign calculated? Also, I enjoyed the "That little girl was me" comment, calculated or not. It drew a line between policy and people in several ways, which I liked.
From her response on CBS, my take was she was obviously aware of the store — she gave the url before she even addressed the question — but she either didn’t know for sure they were doing a t-shirt or just didn’t know it had been done that quickly.
And given the ‘Welcome to Photoshop!’ skill level evident in the picture initially on web site, the shirt was just the result of striking while the iron’s hot after a debate line gained a lot more traction than expected.
Tempest in a t-shirt cup.
And frankly, I like my politicians like I like my... politicians. Border collie smart and friendly on the outside, giant octopus cold and calculating on the inside.
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It was calculated and facile. However, it shows that she's competitive. I don't really put it on Joe because anyone with that many years of being a very active and involved politician is vulnerable to be cherry picked on. What he needs to do is not apologize for what he believed was a proper thing to do at that time. However, it's fine if he acknowledged in hindsight where he believe he erred.
He should not apologize for consorting with Dixiecrats. Reaching across lines is his strength and what he's best known and trusted for. lIt may be a tough sell in the primaries, but will prove valuable in the general.
Its going to be difficult for this primary season to not break down over purity issues.
The odd, nearing bizarre, take I’m hearing some places is that those decades old actions, and his refusal to embrace them all now as grievous failings, regardless of context, are indicative of his viewpoint on race and policies today. An incredibly oversimplified stance to take, but it’s out there.
It'll pass. He can't erase the past. He's going to be attacked. It's an ideological dog fight happening right now. Kamala has had to defend herself vigorously over the past few months so her pre-game is strong and she can't afford to lose South Carolina. It's do or die. He tried to punch back with his awkward Public Defender statement. He missed. Republicans redefined John Kerry's entire life to the public so it's an effective strategy.
Her story was going to come out at some point that night. It was clearly framed, practiced, and ultimately delivered clearly and concisely. Now its up to Kamala to provide some backstory to the history if she wants it to stick. Was she conscious at the time that she was in the second class to be bused to another school? The times then were crazy as far as busing to achieve racial integration in public schools … in San Diego, kids were not bused because the segregation was not intentional and facilities were essentially equal. However, segregation was still found to exist in San Diego schools as late as 1975…
For those interested at all in the history of this - at that time in history - in one small corner of the country [oac.cdlib.org]
What's important is that people and parents DID more than complain, they tried to get the legal system to remedy the problem. Kari Carlin, a white student (and her parents) sued the district. But a conflict between state and federal law prevented their case from moving forward. This conflict is essentially what Kamala and Joe are referencing in their remarks.
San Diego city school segregation was not deliberate, it was the result of housing patterns. Federal law stipulated that segregation was illegal, but California law maintained that as long as segregation was not intentional and facilities were equal, de facto segregation was not unlawful. The decision to continue the Carlin case rested on the outcome of Crawford v. Los Angeles Board of Education. In 1976, the California Supreme Court ruled that segregation, "regardless of its cause," must be rectified, thus making San Diego's segregation illegal.
This began 20 years or more of Voluntary Ethnic Enrollment Program (VEEP). That's when the buses really started rolling around town. The bus riders were known as "Veeps" - which was shameful. A miniscule number of kids from white neighborhoods rode buses, VEEP was primarily a one-way integration model.
50 years later, the program is no more, and integration is achieved mainly through Magnet Schools. They are somewhat successful, but many minority students can still be seen regularly heading north on buses to school, early in the morning, even now in 2019. However, what's different now is that they are making a choice. It's not being made for them.
Sen. Harris knows all of this, the Carlin case is a bedrock of California legal history on this issue, but it never really came out. Obviously, there's no time in a debate for this, but there's been time since then. VP Biden also knows this, but his fumbled response - this all happened over 50 years ago - made it unclear why his position then was what it was.
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His past is not Biden's problem, it's the way he's talking right now, in 2019. Nobody forced him to bring up being cozy with James Eastland, or to express support for the Hyde Amendment and then waffle to the point that it seems he doesn't know what he's talking about, or to pull a Mitt Romney and tell wealthy donors at a fundraiser that "nothing would fundamentally change" if he's elected. Kamala Harris didn't create any of those story lines, Joe Biden did. Just in the past few months.
Biden is the nostalgia candidate and while he may think his presence brings back memories of Obama, his recent words are bringing back memories of segregation and days when white men went behind closed doors and made decisions that were detrimental to women and minorities.
He lacks modern message discipline. He is a nostalgia candidate. Bernie is a nostalgia candidate too, he's just slicker. Biden's formative years are from the days when Thomas Eagleton's acknowledgement of depression was a major scandal. Politicians weren't trying to kneecap one another openly. As awful as many of them were, they clung to the system and admired it.
I don't think there is anything wrong with that by and large. Our country is nostalgic. That's why Trump is president. Even Bernie Quixote would do the right things as president while tilting at his windmills because these guys are expert legislators that wouldn't waste time.
This is a good assessment of just the tip of the iceberg of an issue that tore this country apart. Do we really want to resurrect white flight and it's awful consequences. Cities like Detroit were nearly destroyed. It's a dangerous road to travel just to score some points. We're still in the middle of trying to work all of this out. All of that was just a few years from the Civil Rights Act and 400 years of oppression wasn't and isn't going to be resolve overnight
We try to apply our remedies and too often misfire, which generates backlash and misunderstandings. We heal mostly in my opinion when we leave things alone for the most part. Notice how white people back then always made an exception for the Black people they worked with? Working together is the best way to homogenize people. Too many white people didn't like affirmative action but it was the best way to create integration in this country. It was working.
Her story was going to come out at some point that night. It was clearly framed, practiced, and ultimately delivered clearly and concisely. Now its up to Kamala to provide some backstory to the history if she wants it to stick. Was she conscious at the time that she was in the second class to be bused to another school? The times then were crazy as far as busing to achieve racial integration in public schools
Her "story" is factually correct.
Facts First: Harris was indeed part of the second integrated class at Berkeley's Thousand Oaks Elementary School: she entered school in 1969, and the plan to desegregate the school was implemented in 1968.
"Thousand Oaks Elementary, along with all Berkeley public elementary schools, were integrated through a two-way busing plan, beginning in 1968, so Senator Harris is correct in describing her experience in 1969 as the second year of the busing integration program," Natasha Beery, director of community relations for the Berkeley Unified School District, said in an email on Friday.
[amp.cnn.com]
When I entered the first grade in South Carolina in 1968, it was the first year my school district was integrated. It made an impression on my then and I remember it well to this day. This were pivotal moments in our nation's history and they had a lot of impact on the people involved. You don't forget. And you don't forget who was on the right side of that history.
I don't know if I knew you were from South Carolina! I love that state.
I'm very familiar with Kamala's history and knew of her early experiences. Berkeley is a great place and sought to tackle these issues earlier than most other places. They only have and had the one high school and it was always integrated. So were the Junior High Schools (I believe). The elementary school on the southwest side, where Black people lived was segregated. They argued mightily over that and then just decided to do it. Successfully. Davester is from there. I spend a lot time in that city.
I don't think Biden knows how to explain his past positions in a way that will placate contemporary voters. Old folks who remember how Congress used to work can kind of understand, but there's a few generations who grew up with the idea that you take a position and never sway, never bend, and if the country goes to hell that's okay as long as you don't change your position. And to them, what Biden did is inconceivable and unforgivable. Sadly, Biden needs to have an interpreter stand next to him and explain what he is trying to convey.
Yes born and raised. Extended family still there. That's how I met the artist Ment Nelson. He's from Varnville but he had a booth with some of his art in Charleston and I fell in love with that portrait of Stacey. I'll be back in the Lowcountry this fall, cannot wait.
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February 2021, 26(2): 1205-1221. doi: 10.3934/dcdsb.2020160
Forced oscillation of viscous Burgers' equation with a time-periodic force
Taige Wang 1,, and Bing-Yu Zhang 1,
Department of Mathematical Sciences, University of Cincinnati, Cincinnati, OH 45221-0025, USA
* Corresponding author: Taige Wang
Received December 2019 Published May 2020
This paper is concerned about the existence of periodic solutions of the viscous Burgers' equation when a forced oscillation is prescribed. We establish the existence theory by contraction mapping in $ H^s[0,1] $ with $ s\ge 0 $. Asymptotical periodicity is obtained as well, and the periodic solution is achieved by selecting a suitable function as initial data to generate a solution and passing time limit to infinity. Moreover, uniqueness and global stability is achieved for this periodic solution.
Keywords: Semigroup, contraction mapping, asymptotical periodicity, global stability.
Mathematics Subject Classification: Primary: 35K55, 34K13.
Citation: Taige Wang, Bing-Yu Zhang. Forced oscillation of viscous Burgers' equation with a time-periodic force. Discrete & Continuous Dynamical Systems - B, 2021, 26 (2) : 1205-1221. doi: 10.3934/dcdsb.2020160
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The Companion’s Tale Playtest Review
Last year I had the good fortune to play The Companion’s Tale by Laura Simpson of Sweet Potato Press, with Laura herself acting as facilitator.
The Companion’s Tale is a map-making, storytelling game for 2-4 players that makes heavy use of cards as prompts. It was Kickstarted in March last year. It’s inspired by Avery Alder’s The Quiet Year, but instead of a post-apocalyptic community it’s about a land in upheaval where a hero arises to save it. Nobody actually plays the hero, though. Instead, you play brief vignettes as the hero’s companions, and contribute to the world and history in a variety of ways.
The game starts with some world-building prompts. Each player is given a question, answers it, and draws a representation of that answer on the map. From there, it moves into three acts, each made of several rounds. An act starts with the Historian phase, where every player contributes a fact. Then come the rounds. Each round, players are assigned one of these roles/duties:
The Cartographer, who draws representations of people’s contributions on the map
The Companion, who narrates a vignette as one of the Hero’s Companions
The Witness, who describes an event that happened elsewhere from the Hero
The Lorekeeper, who describes a cultural development.
The roles rotate every round, and the act ends when everyone has had a chance at each role. To close out the act, there’s a Biographer phase. In it, every player contributes some rumors or gossip about other players’ Companions. In every phase, contributions are considered potentially unreliable, and may be contradicted by later contributions.
The Companion’s Tale makes heavy use of cards for prompts. There are cards for Themes, Archetypes, and Faces. At the start of each round, you draw a Theme card for the Historian phase. Each card has a one-word theme, like “Punishment,” and one or two prompts, like “Once the people were punished by the elite.” The prompts are simple but evocative, and subtly steer the game to depict a realm in upheaval.
At the start of the Act, the players draw four Archetype cards, such as “Rival,” “Protege,” “Oracle,” or “Lover,” and lay them out. On the Companion’s turn, the player creates a Companion by choosing one of those Archetypes. They draw two Theme cards and choose one to inform their story, then finally draw a Face card with a portrait of their Companion. The three cards together provide a rich prompt to invent the Companion’s story. Since the game has you draw the Face card after choosing the Archetype, it’s harder to fall back on stereotypes, which leads to more nuanced Companions. When I played, after the Companion player chose the Child archetype, they drew a Face that was an old, scholarly-looking man. If that was the Hero’s Child, then how old must the Hero be? They decided instead that was the Child in his old age, telling his story decades after the fact and having become one of the eminent historians of the period.
I play(test)ed the Diaspora variant, which is designed to allow larger groups to play. You start play as a single group and build the core of a shared map and culture, with elements spanning the map. Then the divide happens: you split into two groups and the map into two pieces, with each group taking one half of the map. Afterwards, you play through the game mostly as normal, but after each act, you pass the Lorekeepers’ cultural contributions to each other. At the end, you get back together, reassemble your halves of the map, and then each player gets to vote on whether the divided lands should reunite.
We started with a core value of Generosity, exemplified by a large lake in the center of the map. Another prompt said that something threatened the kingdom, but people were divided about the nature of the threat. The player who got the prompt drew a volcano on one side of the map and a dragon on the other. When the split happened, I was in the group that got the side of the map with the volcano, a difference that shaped our two cultures. The volcano erupted early in the first act, destroying one of the two capitals. Our game dealt with the resulting economic and social upheaval and was fairly grounded, with no overt magical or supernatural elements. We struggled with feeding people in the wake of the natural disaster, with the main “villain” being a noble who violated our culture’s central tenet of generosity to hoard resources . The group with the dragon side of the map struggled with appeasing and taming the dragon, blood sacrifices, and giant bees.
We discovered these differences every act as we exchanged Lore sheets. Our group felt like our situation was grim, with the crops wiped out by the volcano and the hoarding noble setting up a kind of feudal system. As counterpoint, our Lorekeepers wrote about how the ruin of the capital decentralized the arts, and how the children had started to play a selfish game called “Keep.” Then we got the other group’s Lore sheet, where they had written about appeasing the dragon with pies made from blood mixed with honey. We were horrified and morbidly curious about what was going on in the other half of the realm. The other group found our Lore sheets comforting and a little quaint.
There was some downtime after each act, as whichever group finished first waited for the other group to see their Lore sheet. The breaks gave time to decompress, as the game can use a lot of creative energy.
After the third act, the groups rejoined and spent some time discussing what had happened in each half of the land. Then we held the vote. Almost everyone voted to reunite. One person on our side was concerned about whether the other side had stuck to our core value of generosity. Another on their side was concerned about how we would deal with blood sacrifice.
Playing Companion’s Tale was a wonderful experience. The prompts worked well to give a jumping-off point without overly specifying. The different focuses of the Acts gently shaped the game into a satisfying arc. By the time we got to our third Act, we had both a Traitor and a Spy among the Companions. We all tacitly agreed that the Hero would most likely meet a bad end, and it was just a question of who did the deed. It was decided when the Spy’s player drew the theme “Betrayal” in Act 3. They narrated how the Spy had come to believe in the Hero’s mission, and so gave them the final grace: they would die a martyr, and never have to compromise their ideals.
I loved the Lorekeeper role. I think a lot of worldbuilding forgets about the smaller cultural developments, and it was refreshing to make up children’s games and new slang.
In summary, if you enjoy collaborative storytelling or mapmaking, or like the idea of inventing a history through a variety of lenses and unreliable narrators, check out Laura Simpson’s The Companion’s Tale. As of February 24, 2018, it’s still available for preorder on Backerkit.
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Alicia Sanchez International School became a Garden to Table partner in 2017, as part of the GOCO grant. Their garden space is undergoing renovation this spring as part of the Nature Kids Discovery Zone project, built in partnership with BVSD, the City of Lafayette, and Thorne Nature Experience through the Nature Kids/Jóvenes de la Naturaleza program.
Boulder Community School of Integrated Studies (BCSIS)
Boulder Community School of Integrated Studies has been a Garden to Table partner since 2010. This East Boulder school has a beautiful new outdoor classroom adjacent to raised beds, which BCSIS students brought to life in the spring of 2019 after district bond construction was completed.
Coal Creek Elementary School
Coal Creek Elementary has been a Garden to Table partner since 2012. The Louisville school has beautiful raised beds, sitting right outside of the cafeteria, which are ready to be planted again in the spring of 2020 after a break for bond construction.
Columbine Elementary School
Columbine Elementary is a bilingual school in North Boulder that has partnered with Garden to Table since 2011. Their well-loved raised beds will need replacing soon - we're looking for a sponsor who would like to support this growing space!
Creekside Elementary School, at Martin Park in South Boulder, is where it all began! They were the first Garden to Table pilot school in 2005. After 10 years of gardening, the school was recently rebuilt from the ground up, and brand new garden beds are growing with the next generation of Creekside students.
Crest View Elementary School
Crest View Elementary, located in North Boulder, is all in with the Garden to Table program, and has been since 2007. With volunteer support, classes have taken garden care and education to the next level, working in extra studies in nutrition and pollinator protection.
Emerald Elementary School
Emerald Elementary school, in Broomfield, joined Garden to Table in 2013. After a completely new building was built, Emerald students planted in new beds in the spring of 2018. Two seasons in, their south-facing beds are growing like crazy!
Escuela Bilingüe Pioneer
Escuela Bilingüe Pioneer, in downtown Lafayette, has been a bilingual Garden to Table partner since 2015. The garden was remodeled in 2016 to improve student learning, and backs up to beautiful town open space.
Fireside Elementary School
Fireside Elementary has been a dedicated Garden to Table partner since 2009. Their unique in-ground beds are wonderfully placed at main entrance to the school, and are getting a PTO-funded rebuild in the spring of 2020.
Flatirons Elementary School
Flatirons Elementary has been a Garden to Table partner since 2007, and replaced their beds with improved materials in 2016. This small Boulder school donates their yearly harvest to Boulder Food Rescue!
Foothill Elementary School
Foothill Elementary, in North Boulder, joined the Garden to Table program in 2010. They recently added a garden container to increase accessibility to growing spaces.
Heatherwood Elementary School
Heatherwood is the newest addition to the Garden to Table program, becoming the 20th school in 2020. This Gunbarrel school has brand new beds provided by bond construction, and will soon be planting lettuce for the first time!
High Peaks Elementary School
High Peaks Elementary partnered with Garden to Table starting in 2011. After a move to temporary beds during bond work, 2020 will be their second season back in their beautiful courtyard beds.
Isabella Bird Community School
Isabella Bird Community School, known as Izzi B, is the newest independent Garden to Table partner school. Located in the Stapleton neighborhood of Denver, this school has adopted garden education to promote Health and Wellness.
Lafayette Elementary became a Garden to Table partner in 2009. The garden's expansive in-ground beds are adjacent to Kid's Park, Boulder County's first wheelchair-accessible playground, and the garden has a wide pathway through it so that all may enjoy the space.
Louisville Elementary
Louisville Elementary started our Garden to Table program in 2011 to enrich student education, engage parents and help our community address health and environmental issues. The school community gathered in 2015 to build beds with a sunnier location and the sunflowers show their thanks every year!
Peak to Peak Charter School
Peak to Peak Charter school, in east Lafayette, became a Garden to Table independent partner in 2017. The parent group from this school continues to add garden space and new learning opportunities every year!
Ryan Elementary, in Lafayette, has been a Garden to Table partner since 2012. Their fun raised beds are integrated in to the playground, providing many opportunities for engagement and investigating.
University Hill Elementary School
University Hill Elementary, a bilingual Boulder school, became a Garden to Table partner in 2009. Exciting things are coming at Uni Hill, as bond construction in 2020 will bring brand new garden beds in a new location!
Whittier International Elementary School
Whittier International Elementary School is located in the heart of downtown Boulder and joined Garden to Table in 2011. Their combination of "sguiggly beds" and traditional rectangular beds makes their garden a fun creative space.
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Georg Riedel to conduct wineglass seminar in Walla Walla
By Andy Perdue on June 17, 2013
Riedel glasses are designed for specific wines and are considered the top wineglasses in the world. (Photo by Andy Perdue/Great Northwest Wine)
WALLA WALLA, Wash. – The world’s most famous wineglass maker will be coming to one of the Walla Walla Valley’s top wineries.
Georg Riedel, 10th-generation glassmaker who has created an industry with wine glasses tailored to different types of wine, will demonstrate his Riedel glasses at Pepper Bridge Winery on June 22 during the final day of Celebrate Walla Walla Valley Wine.
The seminar will take place from 11 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. and will cost $80. Those attending will take home a set of the Riedel Vinum XL glasses used in the seminar. The set normally retails for $90.
During the seminar, Riedel will demonstrate how wines taste different using two different glasses. He will use the Pepper Bridge 2010 Cabernet Sauvignon, Amavi Cellars 2010 Les Collines Vineyard Syrah and Tendril Wine Cellars 2010 Pinot Noir. Riedel also will lead a food-and-wine pairing session featuring Lindt chocolate.
To sign up for the class, call 509-525-3541.
Riedel has designed dozens of glasses meant to enhance the enjoyment of different types and styles of wine. For example, Riedel has a glass for Pinot Noir, as well as a glass designed to specifically improve the aromas and flavors of Oregon Pinot Noir.
The company also has designed a stemless glass called the “O” tumbler that is meant for active living. It also has a line of glasses meant to enhance spirits such as tequila, brandy, grappa and martinis. It also makes water glasses and decanters.
The Riedel dynasty began in 1678, when Johann Christoph Riedel was born. He was in the trade of luxury glass goods and traveled throughout Europe. Claus Riedel, Georg’s father, was the first to produce stemware specific to wines when he introduced his “Sommeliers” glasses in 1973.
Georg’s son, Maximilian, is the 11th generation of Riedels to make glass. Max came up with the stemless “O” series. Today, he is CEO of Riedel. The company is based in Austria. It now owns Spiegelau, which at one time was its biggest rival in the luxury wineglass market.
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Home Culture Archaeology Items Recovered from Wreck of Elgin’s Ship off Kythira
Items Recovered from Wreck of Elgin’s Ship off Kythira
Tasos Kokkinidis
Chess pawns, combs and a toothbrush are some of the new findings brought to light by the underwater excavation of the wreck of the ship “Mentor” that sank off the island of Kythira in 1802.
The excavation that continues for the fifth year by the Greek Ephorate of Old Antiquities, was conducted from July 8 to 27.
Among other findings are pieces of furniture, coins and other personal possessions of the crew. Also pieces of a pulley, ropes and other metal objects from one of the ship’s masts.
The ship, which was carrying antiquities plundered from the Parthenon by British diplomat Lord Elgin, was bound for England via Malta but sank at the entrance of the port of Avlemona southwest Kythera.
In earlier excavations several objects were recovered from those that the 10 male crew would have used, including different types of cookware, glass, ceramic and porcelain, bottles, decorative items, which were apparently at the officers’ accommodation, coins of the period, two weapons like pistols, the decoration of a butt shot, bullets of different calibers three, stone lighters for arms, a small cannon shell, and navigation equipment, a small compass hand with gold chain and a compass on board.
Among the most significant items recovered were two ancient silver coins and a bronze coin, discovered between the ballast stones.
The results of this research are particularly interesting and encouraging, because this ship was intrinsically linked with the Parthenon sculptures removed by Lord Elgin’s team in Athens, and the objects recovered from the wreck are indicators of the welfare of seafarer merchant ships in a turbulent historical period of the Eastern Mediterranean.
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More Good Green Jobs For OneNYC
By Nancy Anderson, Ph.D.
With a tip of the hat to Jane Austen, let me tweak her famous observation “It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife.” Today, “It is a truth universally acknowledged that a liberal big city Mayor must be in want of good jobs for all.” I can’t vouch that Austen was comedy-free, but I do believe that Mayor de Blasio is earnest in his commitment to good jobs for all as part of his OneNYC mission.
Photo: Ed Reed Mayor de Blasio announces GJC
In the Mayor’s 2017 OneNYC Progress Report, large print trumpets his credo laid out in the first OneNYC Report of 2015: “I believe fundamentally you can’t have environmental sustainability without economic sustainability. Nor can you have economic sustainability without environmental sustainability.” This is a good thing to believe, so let’s see how this credo is getting expressed in concrete policy and actions.
In May 2017, I interviewed Daniel Zarrilli, Senior Director, Climate Policy and Programs and New York City’s Chief Resilience Officer, to get up to speed about the Green Jobs Corps (GJC), a recently announced initiative for advancing the Mayor’s agenda of harnessing together environmental and economic urban sustainability, which builds on experience gained after the City funded an initial 100 Sandy-impacted residents through pre-apprenticeship programming. Here are some facts provided by the City: exceeding its original goal, 209 people have been trained through the Sandy Recovery Workforce and 173 people have entered union apprenticeship programs to date. Graduates have joined the ranks of DC9 Painters, Electricians Local 3, Laborers Local 731, Laborers Local 79, Metal Lathers Local 46, NYC District Council of Carpenters, Plumbers Local 1, Roofers and Water Proofers Local 8, Sheet Metal Workers Local 28, and Tile Marble and Terrazzo Local 7.
The Green Jobs Corps will launch its first pre-apprentice training program this summer with a class of 200 New York residents of various ages. It’s worth noting that instead of just being conventionally youth-centric, the GJC embraces the “Helmets to Hardhats” jobs program for military veterans as well as a program for non-traditional career paths for women. Over three years, the Green Jobs Corps aims to familiarize 3,000 women and men with construction work. According to Mr. Zarrilli, the GJC will put graduates on a good jobs “pathway”, because successful completion of the Corp’s pre-apprentice program, will make graduates eligible for entry into the Building Construction Trade Council of Greater New York apprentice programs, a venerable route to union membership and good-paying jobs.
Photo: Ed Reed Mayor Bill de Blasio visits Local 3
But not just any good-paying construction jobs! The GJC, Mr. Zarrilli emphasized, will provide 3,000 New Yorkers with the skills needed to participate in the emerging clean energy economy. OneCity Built to Last, mapped out the City’s goal to cut its greenhouse gas emissions 80% by 2050 and its commitment to “lead by example”, by way of its own new construction and major renovations — now required by Local Laws 31/32 of 2016 — at very high performing building energy standards. In addition to its intent to ramp up renewable energy installations around the City, there is a real opportunity at hand for matching people to skills and skills to good jobs.
Admirably, OneCity Built to Last pledged to “Closely track our progress. We will create a Compstat-like portal at the Office of Long Term-Planning and Sustainability, in partnership with Mayor’s Office of Operations and DCAS, to track the progress toward our goals and provide a report of our progress each year.” Given the relatively small-scale and fixed time frame for the GJC, regular disclosure of data on its performance should be easy to do. Feedback and, if needed, course correction are hallmarks of well-designed public policy.
Yet, even feedback and course correction are not enough if policy aims aren’t as big as the problems to be solved. Good jobs for all is a great promise, but if it were easy to deliver on, it would have already happened. It’s well known that even low unemployment rates can mask jobs that don’t pay a living wage and it’s to the Mayor’s credit that he’s an advocate for jobs that do provide a living wage and offer prospects for steady work. That’s why the Mayor should deepen the promise of the Green Jobs Corps and the workforce that’s needed to do the work that will be needed to ensure the City meets its 80 by 50 obligations. He should commit City government to hiring all qualified Green Jobs Corps graduates, whether or not they make it into a union apprentice program, so they will receive the City-worker wages and benefits. The work cut out for NYC to become energy efficient, climate sustainable, and climate resilient in every neighborhood is ample. Let’s lead by example and start hiring now.
This article originally appeared on the website of the Sallan Foundation and is reprinted with its permission.
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The Glory and Brutality of a Purebred Texan Clan
New York Times Book Review June 20, 2013
Philipp Meyer's 'The Son,' Reviewed by Ron Charles
Washington Post May 21, 2013
Sons, Guns and the Sins of the Father in Meyer's Texas Epic
National Public Radio May 28, 2013
Philipp Meyer's Dark and Bloody Crossroads
L.A. Review of Books August 5, 2013
The Last of the Comanches: Philipp Meyer's The Son
The Millions July 3, 2013
Philipp Meyer's Savage West
Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy
Based on historical events that took place on the Texas-Mexico border in the 1850s, it traces the fortunes of the Kid, a fourteen-year-old Tennesseean who stumbles into the nightmarish world where Indians are being murdered and the market for their scalps is thriving.
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A Strong West Wind by Gail Caldwell
A Strong West Wind begins in the 1950s in the wilds of the Texas Panhandle–a place of both boredom and beauty, its flat horizons broken only by oil derricks, grain elevators, and church steeples. Its story belongs to a girl who grew up surrounded by dust storms and cattle ranches and summer lightning, who took refuge from the vastness of the land and the ever-present wind by retreating into books.
Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry
Set in the late nineteenth century, "Lonesome Dove" is the story of a cattle drive from Texas to Montana -- and much more. It is a drive that represents for everybody involved not only a daring, even a foolhardy, adventure, but a part of the American Dream -- the attempt to carve out
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5. Talk about the book's structure. Is it a continuous story...or interlocking short stories? Does the time-line move forward chronologically...or back and forth between past and present? Does the author use a single viewpoint or shifting viewpoints? Why might the author have chosen to tell the story the way he or she did—and what difference does it make in the way you read or understand it?
6. What main ideas—themes—does the author explore? (Consider the title, often a clue to a theme.) Does the author use symbols to reinforce the main ideas? (See our free LitCourses on both Symbol and Theme.)
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9. If you could ask the author a question, what would you ask? Have you read other books by the same author? If so how does this book compare. If not, does this book inspire you to read others?
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American Rust by Philipp Meyer
Left alone to care for his aging father after his mother commits suicide and his sister escapes to Yale, Isaac English longs for a life beyond his hometown. But when he finally sets out to leave for good, accompanied by his temperamental best friend, former high school football star Billy Poe, they are caught up in a terrible act of violence that changes their lives forever.
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Distribution, Collaboration, and Freelancing: A GIJN Guide
By Toby McIntosh | October 12, 2020
From where to pitch to how to avoid being sued, and how much you should be getting paid for your work: a new, nine-part GIJN-resource covers the business side of doing investigative journalism. The guide covers a variety of subjects, aiming to help both individuals and media institutions by providing practical tips and advice.
Freelancing: Places to Pitch Story Ideas
By ldombek | October 9, 2020
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There are no platforms designed specifically for journalists to sell investigative story ideas, but a few websites may prove useful. To find a publisher for an investigative idea, most reporters suggest alternative routes, such as doing research on possible outlets and making personal contacts. (See more about networking in the section on pitching stories.)
However, there are some websites that provide opportunities to pitch story ideas to a broad audience and to view publishers’ calls for contributions (though these are rarely on investigative topics). For freelance investigative reporters, a primary value of these job platforms is to find the gigs that pay the bills while pursuing bigger passions. There are dozens of job sites, so our list is surely incomplete.
What We’re Reading: Freelancing for Disinformation, How (Not) to Pitch, #ElectionWatchdog
By Tanya Pampalone | September 11, 2020
For this week’s Friday 5, where GIJN rounds up key reads around the world, we found stories about freelancers commissioned to write for a massive Russian-backed disinformation campaign, how to (not) get your pitch read by an editor, and a guide for reporting on US elections.
Freelancing Investigative Journalism: How to Pitch
By ldombek | July 6, 2020
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Selling freelance investigative journalism proposals is a lot like selling other stories, but harder. There just aren’t enough media outlets willing to engage in watchdog reporting.
For more on Distribution, Promotion, and Freelancing, see our GIJN Guide.And pitching investigations which may have uncertain and controversial outcomes is especially challenging, requiring the establishment of mutual trust.
What’s more, the costs of doing time-consuming investigations can be high, while the compensation is inadequate. It’s hard to predict how much time and effort will be involved, making even a rough cost-benefit analysis only a wild guess. Then, lastly, there’s personal risk. Freelancers can face special challenges working on controversial stories, with legal and safety risks that media outlets won’t assume.
It’s hard to predict how much time and effort will be involved, making even a rough cost-benefit analysis only a wild guess.Despite all this, the ranks of freelance investigative reporters remain strong.
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STRIP FARMING HELPED KEEP ALBERTA’S SOIL IN PLACE
tommy wilson January 5, 2021
RESOLUTIONS AND REQUESTS
PERU, WEED SEEDS AND THE POWER OF CO-OPERATION
AAFC AGRICULTURE AND AGRI-FOOD CANADA AGRONOMICS AGRONOMY ALBERTA AGRICULTURE AND FORESTRY ALBERTA WHEAT COMMISSION ALES ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE BARLEY COUNCIL OF CANADA BREWING CANADIAN GRAIN COMMISSION CANADIAN MALTING BARLEY TECHNICAL CENTRE CEREALS CANADA CIGI COVID-19 CRAFT BEER CRAFT BREWING crop research CROP ROTATION Education FAMILY FARM FARM SAFETY FEED GRAIN fertilizer GRAIN DRYING GRAIN GROWERS OF CANADA GRAIN MARKETING HARVEST FROM HELL INTERNATIONAL TRADE LETHBRIDGE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT CENTRE MALTING BARLEY MILLING OLDS COLLEGE PANDEMIC QUORUM CORPORATION RDAR RESEARCH SEED GROWERS SOCIAL MEDIA technology TRADE UNIVERSITY OF MANITOBA UNIVERSITY OF SASKATCHEWAN VARIETY DEVELOPMENT wheat
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OPPORTUNITIES IN A GROWING SECTOR
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A FRAM KID TO TACKLE A SEED-RELATED JOB
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BY TIMOTHY FOWLER • ALL PHOTOS COURTESY OF THE SUBJECTS’ RESPECTIVE EMPLOYERS, EXCEPT LEE MARKERT PHOTO COURTESY OF ALBERTA CANOLA PRODUCERS COMMISSION
“Have you thought about what you’re going to do after high school?”
It’s a question that’s asked this time of year around many a dining room table. According to five agriculture professionals, pursuing a career in seed may be a rewarding path for recent high school graduates as well as those further along in their studies or now employed in other sectors. While job losses make headlines in other industries, the Canadian agricultural economy continues to grow, and positions in the seed sector are being taken up by rural and urban folk alike.
If seed is the microchip that powers the Canadian agricultural economy, as one of our subjects suggests, it’s also the basis for a wide selection of engaging careers. For example, researchers develop improved seed varieties, while agronomists use their knowledge to coach the highest yields from the best seed. Careers in seed production involve every aspect of growing it, from advising farmers to managing farm operations. Supply-chain logistics jobs focus on ensuring seed quality is met and maintained. There are also seed-based careers in business, sales and marketing as well as in human resource management, legal advisement, intellectual property management and information technology.
The educational credentials required for a career in seed vary from agriculture diploma to bachelor’s and master’s degrees in biology or other plant-related disciplines all the way to doctorates in genetics and biotechnology. In many cases, the ideal candidate for a particular job position may bring perfectly transferable skills from a completely unrelated industry.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, CANADIAN SEED TRADE ASSOCIATION
Headed to Brock University from his home in Oakville, ON., Dave Carey anticipated a career in law. When his spouse landed a job in Ottawa, he made a bold enquiry with the local member of Parliament and landed a job in politics that led to his current role with the Canadian Seed Trade Association. Carey encourages urban folks to consider opportunities in agriculture, particularly related to the seed industry. Agriculture as an industry, he said, is here to stay.
Agriculture is a noble calling that drives the economy while feeding the world, said Carey. “It is a great place to hang your hat every day. Seed is the microchip that powers the Canadian agriculture economy, employing one in eight people in a $109-billion industry. Seed is a $6-billion industry that employs 60,000 Canadians with [2016] exports of $600 million in seed, specifically for planting. Domestically, $2.2 billion in seed is sold.”
LEE MARKERT
GENERAL MANAGER, MARKERT SEEDS
After high school, Lee Markert wasn’t sure he would stay on the family farm near Vulcan. He thought a business degree in management from the University of Lethbridge would set his career path. At the university, he added agricultural electives to his studies and interned in sales with a life sciences company. This combination of education and work experience broadened his view of the agriculture industry in Western Canada and gave him the career catalyst he sought. After graduation, he saw the tremendous production opportunities in his family’s pedigreed seed business in a new light and wanted to be part of it. He now exercises his passion for growing and processing high-quality, pedigreed seed as general manager of Markert Seeds.
“I have always liked getting my hands dirty; plant seed one day, network the next, make sales by phone the next,” he said. “I have freedom and flexibility to spend time with family. It is a diverse job with lots of flexibility. Farming is in my blood, that’s what it boils down to.”
HOLLY GELECH
BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT MANAGER, SGS BIOVISION
A top Canadian seed, grain and soil tester, SGS BioVision is part of a global network providing services to the seed industry. Holly Gelech’s role with the company is to explore growth opportunities by expanding its services, recruiting customers and developing new markets for existing services.
“I am encouraged that the business is always evolving and that it is very much driven by science and technology,” she said. “Those are the areas that interested me in high school, and the key drivers to my post-secondary education. There is tremendous peer engagement in our industry as well. We are not just an Alberta-based company; what happens globally impacts us. I love that there is such a global nature in what we do in the seed-testing world, as it creates opportunities for growth and new technology commercialization.”
“Talk to as many people as you can to understand what they do and get their perspective about what they do and what they love about their job,” advised Gelech to those choosing a seed career path. “There are so many opportunities in seed, including business development, sales, marketing, lab work and analytics.”
TODD HYRA
WESTERN CANADA BUSINESS MANAGER, SECAN
In high school, Todd Hyra saw a clear educational path that would lead back to his Manitoba family’s mixed-grain, cattle and hog farm. He pursued a diploma in agriculture at the University of Manitoba after Grade 12, thinking it an expedient route. However, he enjoyed the formal learning environment so much that he went on to earn a degree. While at university, a summer job with the Manitoba Department of Agriculture’s wheat division opened his eyes to off-farm opportunities. After graduating, he joined United Grain Growers as an agronomist, taking on the management of its research program at age 26. He never did return to the farm.
Now, Hyra is Western Canada’s business manager for SeCan, an association of seed companies that locates genetics for seed from plant breeding institutions. It works with plant breeders who have developed and proven genetics in crops such as barley, wheat, oats and flax, to bring top-performing seed to Canadian farmers.
Travelling extensively through Canada and the United States in winter, Hyra attends trade events to collect information on new products and industry developments. The season also brings meetings with farm groups and seed growers. Spring is time to focus on marketing and planning for upcoming growing seasons. Once the crops are up in summer, Hyra meets with seed growers to inspect crops. He is also president of the Canadian Seed Trade Association and travels widely to participate in association meetings.
Fearless pursuit of his goals and support from his managers have influenced his career success, he said. “With that, I was able to always channel my energy to areas of work that I enjoyed. Make sure you pick something you like,” he advised. “Channel your energy and enthusiasm where you can truly excel.”
COLETTE PREFONTAINE
PEDEGREED SEED TERRITORY MANAGER, CANTERRA SEEDS
The first time Colette Prefontaine attended university, it was to keep peace with her family. Her dad was concerned that if she didn’t attend right after high school, she would never do so. “I went [to university] to play hockey. That was all I cared about,” she said with a laugh.
A BA in history and English didn’t land her a dream job, but a subsequent degree in agriculture from the University of Lethbridge and completing a certified crop advisor diploma program at Olds College did. She suggested the fact she didn’t grow up on a farm gives her a unique perspective and an advantage in acting as a bridge between people with a deep agricultural understanding and those outside the industry.
“I love being involved with genetics,” said Prefontaine. “That little seed holds the potential for yield and return on a farmer’s investment. As much as I like seed, I wanted to be in the field.” When she isn’t working at her home office, she’s on the road, sometimes taking her Labrador retrievers Rin, Blade and Cache along for company. She logs 80,000 kilometres per year visiting customers, shareholders and farmers from La Crete to Milk River.
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Elon Musk Explains How Trump Could Actually Help Tesla
Eve Peyser
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Addressing concerns that the incoming Trump administration could threaten green businesses like Tesla, CEO Elon Musk assured shareholders on Thursday that eliminating zero-emission vehicle (ZEV) credits could actually improve the company’s competitive advantage.
Trump, who once tweeted “the concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive,” is already looking into pulling out of the Paris Climate Agreement.
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The president-elect’s position on climate change had many scared he might eliminate the ZEV credit program.
The California Air Resources Board (CARB), along with nine other states, have a ZEV mandate. Basically, it demands that car companies sell a fixed amount of zero-emission vehicles. Automakers unable to earn enough of their own ZEV credits can purchase them from other companies who have a surplus. This is where Tesla comes in. Business Insider reports:
Tesla made $139 million in the third quarter from selling ZEV credits. But because of the way the program is set up, there’s an oversupply of ZEV credits flooding the market. That’s made it harder for Tesla to consistently turn a profit from selling them. For example, ZEV credits were so negligible in the second quarter that Tesla didn’t even break them out.
In a company earnings call in August, Musk went on a rant about the failures of the ZEV program. “The California Air Resources Board is being incredibly weak in its application of ZEV credits,” the CEO explained. “The standards are pathetically low... There’s massive lobbying by the big car companies to prevent CARB from increasing the ZEV credit mandate, which they absolutely damn well should. It’s a crying shame that they haven’t. And as a result, you can barely sell the ZEV credits for pennies on the dollar.”
Musk is not in favor of eliminating ZEV credits, but he did assert that such incentives “don’t scale or are disadvantageous.” He thinks there should be government incentives to encourage the production of sustainable vehicles. However, he believes “they should be there for the good of the industry and to accelerate the advent of sustainable transport.”
CFRA Research analyst Efraim Levy told Business Insider, “If you’re buying Tesla stock or even holding it, you’re not dependent on the ZEV credits for your thesis.” ZEV credits, nevertheless, are a source of income for Tesla, earning the company $57 million in the first quarter of 2016. (In Q2, the profits were so minor, Tesla didn’t bother reporting them.)
The moral of the story? While a Trump presidency might fuck you over, Elon Musk will likely continue to flourish.
[Business Insider]
Eve Peyser was the night editor at Gizmodo.
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i’m starting to worry about Elon becoming Hugo Drax.
this Mars bullshit and the way he speaks about it on the new TV Series has me thinking he really thinks he is going to be the savior of mankind.
jesus i miss the days when tycoons just wanted to race sail boats and manage their baseball teams or balloon solo around the world. these fucking tech guys are straight outta Ian Fleming’s imagination.
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RennTech In 2008, RENNtech unveiled the GLK350 Hybrid Pikes Peak Rally Car, a concept vehicle which won the 2008 SEMA Show Mercedes-Benz tuner build off competition. This vehicle was designed not only to turn heads as a show car, but to serve as a proof-of-concept and testament to our dedication to our core concept; performance without compromise. Fast forward nearly 3 years, countless automotive trade shows, numerous track events and extensive real world miles; the GLK Pikes Peak project has been completely revamped and restyled for a final tour in 2011 with Mercedes-Benz USA. Upon completion of the US tour schedule, the GLK will retire to a place of honor in the Mercedes-Benz Classic Vehicle Museum located in Irvine, CA as part of their permanent collection. This will be the second vehicle prepared by RENNtech that has found its way into the hallowed halls of the Mercedes-Benz Museum Collection, the first of which was the E60 RS project car built for comedian Jerry Seinfeld. When approached with the opportunity, RENNtech completely revamped the vehicles exterior and collaborated once again with 3M Commercial Graphics Division to complement the GLK’s aggressive exterior styling. This original body kit was entirely designed and engineered by RENNtech in-house, using the latest in Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD) software and rapid prototype capabilities. The concept behind the restyling was to not only completely change the vehicles appearance, but utilize vinyl materials in finishes rarely seen in the automotive world. 3M chose the RENNtech GLK as the showpiece to revel their latest product line of 1080 Scotchprint ® textured automotive vinyl wrap. This preprinted, 3.5 mil dual cast film was applied to nearly every exterior surface of the vehicle in a stunning combination of brushed steel (1080-BR201) and black carbon fiber (1080 CF-12) with subtle red pin stripping to further accent the vehicles bold lines. The GLK350 Pikes Peak Project will be unveiled to the public during Mercedes-Benz first leg of their tour schedule at the Pittsburgh International Automotive Show February 10-13th, 2011. Additional stops on the tour schedule include Milwaukee, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Kansas City, Minneapolis and Denver. After its time on the road, the vehicle can be seen at the Mercedes-Benz Classic Vehicle Museum in Irvine, California. RENNtech would like to thank the unwavering support of the following companies, with whom realizing both phases of such a large project would not have been possible. Mercedes-Benz KW Suspensions Goff’s Curtain Walls Nitto Tires Optima Batteries Schroth Racing Technicar Seibon
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Tag Archives: alberto manguel
by harrisrh | February 22, 2019 · 6:17 pm
A History of Reading
If you like reading, you’ll probably like this book. If you love reading, you will love this book. And if you adore reading like it’s a source of oxygen, then you will go cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs when you start this book.
In 1997, Argentine-Canadian Alberto Manguel published an immensely engrossing book called A History of Reading, a love letter, as it were, to readers everywhere throughout the ages. As his publisher puts it:
“At one magical instant in your early childhood, the page of a book—that string of confused, alien ciphers—shivered into meaning. Words spoke to you, gave up their secrets; at that moment, whole universes opened. You became, irrevocably, a reader. Alberto Manguel moves from this essential moment to explore the 6000-year-old conversation between words and that magician without whom the book would be a lifeless object: the reader. Manguel lingers over reading as seduction, as rebellion, as obsession, and goes on to trace the never-before-told story of the reader’s progress from clay tablet to scroll, codex to CD-ROM.”
For those bibliophiles and word nerds out there who can’t get enough book-related stuff, Mr. Manguel also has another interesting nonfiction book called The Library at Night. It’s sexy. It’s mild. It’s a sexy mild read.
In a similarly related piece, Nicholas Cannariato penned a thought-provoking piece for @The_Millions called “Why We Read and Why We Write.” As Mr. Cannariato says:
“Reading then is a moral and subversive act in its own right. It’s a disengagement from the commercial and competitive in pursuit of heightened moral sense coupled with aesthetic and intellectual engagement. Reading doesn’t produce ‘work’ itself as ‘producerist’ ideology would have it, but rather it cultivates the intangibles that go into that work. What we gain by reading is what we often strive for in life when we’re actually thinking about what we want.”
But perhaps the most hilarious quote from this piece (and something which would likely make Stephen King hunt down and “Misery” the male colleague in question here) is the following: “Sheila Liming, in her recent essay “In Praise of Not Not Reading,” recounts a male colleague pursuing an MFA in fiction tell her he literally didn’t believe in reading. ‘I’m a writer, I make things,’ he said, ‘whereas you’re a reader, you consume things.'”
Anyone have a candlestick, knife, rope, dumbbell, trophy, poison, lead pipe, revolver, or wrench handy for Professor Douchebag?
Tagged as "producerist ideology", "Why We Read and Why We Write", @The_Millions, A History of Reading, alberto manguel, Nicholas Cannariato, reading, Sheila Liming, The Library at Night (book)
by harrisrh | September 7, 2017 · 10:14 am
Crack for the (Literary) Soul
When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child.
(Therefore, I read Sidney Sheldon with reckless abandon.)
When I became a man, I gave up childish ways.
(Ergo, I switched over to Lee Child.)
Thank godness (sic) for Corinthians! Like many readers, I have fond memories of reading as a youngster. When I wasn’t dining on chicken noodle soup to fortify my soul, I was either playing hockey or video games, reading, or volunteering my time at one of 23 nursing homes/shelters/soup kitchens in the pre-GTA (i.e. Toronto Toronto).
I read Watership Down, The Tale of Peter Rabbit, the Hardy Boys, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and…get ready…Are You There, God? It’s Me, Margaret. (“Hey, Mom,” I’d later say, “I thought a period ended a sentence.”)
But it was Sidney Sheldon whom I fell in love with as a young teen and consumed like cotton candy dipped in a sumptuous 151 proof rum & crack sauce. (“Whoa,” I’d later think – but not verbalize because it sounded sacrilegious, “You can put creams down there to do that?!?!?)
As I grew older, school MADE ME read novels about boring subjects like communism and totalitarianism as seen through the eyes of farm animals, orphans who like hanging around graveyards, and teenagers in a pre-Survivor scenario who kill instead of show off their naked upper bodies, etc.
Aside from a few girly rags in between during this academic period of my life (Hey, man, Stephen King publishes in Playboy! So does Margaret Atwood, Murakami Haruki, Norman Mailer and Ray Bradbury – so back off!), I didn’t have much of a chance to read anything except what was prescribed to me by all my Doctors of Literature.
Once I got out of school, though, I started reading what I wanted to read once again, and soon my literary boundaries began growing in leaps and bounds. I started my first book club in 2004 and my current one in 2009. Whether fiction or non-fiction, whether written in English or translated, whether a male or female/young or old author – I didn’t care. Soon I was slurping away on literature like a kid attacking a Slush Puppy after a hockey game. (Or Alberto Manguel walking around a library with a grocery cart big enough to hold all the books of Alexandria.)
Although I tend to read more serious literature these days most of the time (because I lost my sense of humour somewhere around Yonge and Lawrence a while ago, I’m told), I still succumb to the Lee Child virus every now and then. Which is what I did last week. Which is why I feel a bit lighter in the brain, but a bit sturdier in the happiness index.
I don’t read a lot of thrillers, but something about Mr. Don’t-Call-Me-a-Child, Asshole! resonates with me like, oh, I don’t know, how certain people feel upon getting a little blue box from Tiffany’s for Christmas or someone else being handed the keys to a muscle car and told to drive it hard into the ground.
Jack Reacher is not remotely human, a perfect soul in many ways yet has no sense of commitment. But still.
But still I can’t get enough of him. If you’ve only seen the recent Tom Cruise Jack Reacher series movies, do yourself a favour. Go to a hospital and get a brain scrub. Have those memories completely erased from your brain and then start at square one: pick up ANY Jack Reacher novel (there’s no real thread through them except the brother who comes and goes and a few other small details), find a comfortable place to read, and strap yourself in for a wild ride. You won’t regret it.
Tagged as 1 Corinthians 13:11, alberto manguel, Jack Reacher, Jack Reacher movie series, Lee Child, margaret atwood, murakami haruki, Norman Mailer, Playboy, Ray Bradbury, Sidney Sheldon, stephen king, Survivor (TV series), The Library of Alexandria, Tom Cruise
by harrisrh | October 9, 2016 · 7:39 am
I know what you’re thinking: Cats, they ain’t read so good. That’s a fair and reasonable assumption. But try proving it scientifically! Anyway, the real point here is that cats are cute and books are cool. Except when your cat pees on a book. Then said cat is naughty and your book smells.
On a quiet Sunday morning before homes across Canada turn into madhouses for Thanksgiving, a lighter set of quotes about reading and books.
Incidentally, for the hard-core bibliophiles out there, I strongly recommend Alberto Manguel’s A History of Reading and The Library at Night.
Tagged as A History of Reading, alberto manguel, cute cats, Quote of the Day, quotes about reading and books, reading cats, The Library at Night
by harrisrh | May 22, 2016 · 10:12 pm
Reading Nook Sweeps
For everyone out there who loves authors like Alberto Manguel and books such as The Library at Night, here’s a contest to win a mac daddy library in your own home. Per the contest description:
“Calling all bookworms! This is your chance to win a fully furnished reading nook courtesy of Room & Board and Penguin Random House, complete with chair, end table, floor lamp, and most importantly, bookshelf–plus, a library of books in the genres you love.”
Click here to enter for your chance to have a reading nook built in your home. Contest closes June 8, 2016 and is open only to U.S. residents.
Tagged as alberto manguel, library contests, penguin randomhouse, reading nook, room & board, the library at night novel
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Test Your 4k TV With Free 4k UHD Shorts From Vudu
Vudu is one of the only places to get digital movies in 4k UHD format, but the higher quality comes at a premium cost. Most UHD titles on Vudu are $29.99 to purchase with some titles available to rent for $9.99. But for those who want to test out Vudu’s UHD format they’ve recently added several new shorts that are available free-of-charge.
The video shorts to look for are titled “Breathe,” “Hidden,” “The Flesh of My Lovers” and “Shun.” Each video short is about three minutes long and will play in Ultra HD on TVs and monitors that support the format. Otherwise, the video resolution drops to HDX (1080p), HD (720p), or the highest quality available when streaming.
To get the videos jump over to Vudu’s UHD library, log in, and purchase the UHD format for $0.00. Once in your library the titles can either be streamed or downloaded. Don’t expect much with some of these short clips…there’s a reason why they’re free. Still though, the free clips are a great way to test internet bandwidth, Vudu’s UHD format, and 4k Ultra HD displays without having to pay a penny.
Want to know what feature films are available in 4k on Vudu? Check out our list and prices of UHD titles on Vudu.
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Jack January 1, 2017 At 2:20 am
Will the video itself tell us what resolution it’s playing in or will we need to judge it by watching?
WalmartVudu August 11, 2016 At 5:46 pm
So you have to register/sign in (put your credit card info) just to check a few 4K video’s.
No thank you Wally, You Tube has lots of 4K video’s for free.
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Google Maps Gets Dedicated Car UI. Much Like That Of Android Auto
Sep 28, 2020 Android, Auto, car, dedicated, Google, maps
Google Maps is set to receive an in car navigation UI very similar to that of Android Auto. As reported by Android Police, this is the first time we will see dedicated Android Auto-style buttons and home screen on Google Maps.
This comes as Google Maps began introducing its worldwide COVID layer. This was designed to provide users with local and national statistics on the virus.
The app has also worked on its ability to predict traffic patterns to provide better ETAs over recent weeks. The new update sees the app using Google’s DeepMind AI to better understand and predict traffic patterns.
Google Maps has previously had music playback controls show up in navigation before. However, this is a new step for Google Maps its self to have an in car UI.
Google maps ready to receive in car UI
As the above screenshots show, the interface looks much like that of Android Auto’s view. The main difference is that it is based purely out of the Maps app.
The bottom two buttons are for the navigation mode, one is for voice and the other for the home screen. A third will also appear if you are not on the navigation screen so you can quickly return to it.
Above this, you can see a music playback interface. This is something that has featured in Maps before but now looks like it is more ingrained in the interface.
Then above the music playback is the standard Maps interface. There is little to see here and is largely what we already know.
As you can see there are some changes when it comes to pressing the home screen button. This brings you to an intuitive screen where you can reach all the essential functions of your phone.
This includes a “Calls” screen which contains your top three contacts and three most recent calls, with a “Call someone else” button.
There is also a similar messages function as well as interfaces for podcasts and other music apps. Google has also deemed that a dedicated YouTube Music interface is also essential and gets a place on this screen.
When you get into the individual interfaces things become slightly more puzzling. It generally seems to offer exactly the same functionality as Android Auto’s interface.
However, you lose the ability to use Waze as the navigator. Given Android Auto is set to be replaced by a new Assistant Drive Mode, this is all a bit weird.
It, therefore, appears that this new Maps function has not been fully developed as of yet. It has reached a fair few individuals though so it must be near completion. We may have to wait and see if Google plays around with this update going forwards.
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Sleepy Hollow 2.02 – The Kindred
Posted on September 30, 2014 by staff writer | 4 Comments
Previously on Sleepy Hollow, we thought the show was jerking us around! But it was only Purgatory jerking reality, Ichabod, and Abbie around. Plus Benjamin Franklin was a merry nudist puzzle-poser of an encrypting funster. HISTORY!
The Headless Horseman takes Katrina to a ritual circle with fire where, Henry tells her, they will “complete the ceremony” bonding the two of them. There’s wrist binding and hand cutting (this show loves its ceremonial hand-slashing, tbh). “You must be like him in every way,” Henry explains to Katrina as the Horseman takes a wide swing at her pretty head with his axe and…
“You were having a nightmare?” Abbie asks Ichabod as he startles awake. Yeah. So. I’d like to nominate myself as current Queen of Stating the Obvious, as last night I said aloud, “You know, this show likes to mess with our heads,” as though this was actual news.
There’s a new secret sacred text in town! It’s the Codex Tchacos (I can’t remember the original pronunciation, so I’m calling it Cod Ex Tacos). We learn there’s a tale as old as time, song as old as rhyme, when a supernatural harbinger takes a human bride through a gruesome binding ritual, aww! Ichabod expresses adorable colonial-displacement confusion at what Abbie calls “the marriage industry” after she snarks about evil and Martha Stewart. *bops his nose*
Sounds like Gruesome Binding Ritual themed wedding is the Horseman/Abraham’s plan for Katrina, not just a description of Ichabod’s bad dreams. Abbie reminds Ichabod, that Abraham is a “jilted lover and a former comrade of yours.” Basically, she stresses, Ichabod knows how Abraham thinks, and should use that to determine where he’s stashed Ichabod’s wife.
Wow, Sheriff Reyes, Captain Irving’s replacement (temporary, okay? *sobs*) sure likes to throw a bucketful of curveballs at first meeting. She admonishes Abbie for showing late, frowny-faces the tanking of Abbie’s promising career after losing Corbin, drops the bomb that she knew Abbie as a kid from the antics of Abbie’s neglectful mother, and theorizes all the headless-ing stuff going on in town is the work of a drug cartel. “We are going to bring some sanity to this town,” Reyes concludes.
Meanwhile, Ichabod has concluded Abraham would have brought his intended back to his family estate in Dobbs Ferry. ON the way, Abbie carefully says she wants to stay focused on Moloch’s larger plan. But Katrina isn’t just his wife, Ichabod argues; she’s a “witch of extraordinary abilities,” and he hasn’t “forgotten our duty as Witnesses” in worrying about her rescue.
At Willow Point, they confirm Katrina’s inside, and the Horseman’s spooky steed is lurking in the shadows. “Crane, let’s go,” Abbie pleads when Ichabod nearly makes a break for it to run in after Katrina. “We come back after we have a plan,” she insists.
The only real purpose of this scene was this great shot of Abbie and Ichabod skulking behind a tree.
Back at Corbin’s Cabin Hideaway, Jenny totally moves past Ichabod’s Cod Ex Tacos explanation (um, she retrieved it, Ichabod, so *hands*) to focus on a specific drawing. It’s The Kindred, a Frankenstein’s Monster type being Franklin was going to create along with the Sisterhood of the Radiant Heart (Katrina’s coven) from “harvesting the limbs of fallen soldiers” into a super being who would help them fight evil.
You know, I object to Benjamin Franklin randomly coming up with an idea Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley had yet to imagine. I’m just putting that out there. Anyway, the coven never raised the creature; they were lacking a body part from the Horseman. “We have a pretty big piece of him at our disposal,” Jenny reminds them: the Head in a Box Jar. “We’re not talking about raising a weapon,” Abbie objects when Ichabod sees opportunity. “We’re talking about raising a monster.” Dun dun DUN! Credits time!
Henry finds himself summoned to Moloch and promises he won’t rest until there’s a way for Moloch to rise to earth. “No, I will find my own way,” Moloch growls in his Standard Romani Greek thing, telling Henry to mind his own beeswax, and he’ll find a way back himself.
Despite Jenny’s clear objections and Abbie’s troubled misgivings, Abbie ultimately agrees to raise the Kindred. “The last time we went on a mission to save Katrina, it didn’t end well,” Jenny reminds them. But Ichabod is so focused on saving his wife, he insists “this time our eyes have been opened.”
Okay, I get that Ichabod is actually somewhat blinded by his strong desire to rescue Katrina despite his wide-eyed claims. But the episode skirts a weird edge of almost accusing him of uxoriousness. It’s not actually weird to take some extreme measures to get someone away from one of the Horsemen of the Apocalypse; last week, Ichabod risked letting Moloch out of Purgatory to save Abbie.
But it does highlight a worry for the show: the problem of where do you slot in Katrina, Ichabod’s wife, into the narrative and emotional dynamics when Ichabod already has such a strong relationship with Abbie?
How to find a way for Katrina to escape — not just the Headless Horseman, but the limits of the plot?
Jenny fits into the picture well, having her own interesting backstory and a potential relationship with Frank Irving that gives her scope outside of Ichabod-and-Abbie. Anyway, it’s intriguing to watch the show working to manage the problem of giving Katrina an actual role without taking focus away from Ichabod’s bond to Abbie.
Obviously one way to work Katrina into the plot is to give her another relationship, and for that reason I’m kind of psyched we’re seeing the weirdly human side of the Hottest of the Horsemen, Abraham as he tries to convert her to fire and brimstone salvation. Abraham immediately tries to plant doubts in Katrina’s head about Abbie, and throws a subtle bone to the slash shippers (“Ichabod cared about me once, and now he has moved on,” Abraham laments, likening Ichabod betraying their BFF-ness when he stole away Katrina to Katrina effectively losing Ichabod to Abbie).
OH NO, MY SWEET BABBOO FRANK IRVING!!!!!
NOTHING ABOUT THIS SCENE IS OKAY! *cries and cries*
Abbie visits Irving in jail to find him beaten but unbowed. “Apparently, inmates don’t like former cops,” he says, joining me as my King of Stating the Obvious (*goes to make up matching crowns*). He reassures Abbie his wife’s getting him a new lawyer (so wait, they’re reconciling also?), but when he tries to ask about what’s up with the fight against evil, Abbie tells him “you’ve got enough to handle in here”.
Turns out Irving hid the Head of the Headless at Sleepy Hollow Savings & Loan. Actually that’s pretty freaking smart, putting it behind steel walls in a twenty-four hour security venue. When he mentions he thought about telling the truth, and maybe working with an insanity plea, Abbie urges him to take that tack. “Visitation is a lot easier for us [at Tarrytown Psychiatric], than prison,” she says. “We want you close.”
Ichabod rails at banking establishments (“more dangerous than standing armies,” according to Jefferson), and huffs indignantly to a bank manager, “these people trust you with their fortune, yet you cannot entrust them with a single inkwell?” When the man tries to get him to open up a credit account instead of yanking around the standard bank pen on a chain, Ichabod asks, “Are you part of the wedding industry?” with all due horror.
While Abbie and Ichabod fetch the Head, Jenny hauls munitions to Abbie & Ichabod’s Awesome Sekkrit Hideout at police headquarters. HOCRAP, here comes Sheriff Reyes with lots of contempt for Jenny’s ex-con, escapee-of-Tarrytown-Psychiatric status. “I have other achievements,” Jenny says loftily, because she’s awesome. But when Reyes pokes through Jenny’s duffel bags o’ weaponry, it’s more jail time for Jenny, drat.
“You must be the History Consultant,” Reyes tells Ichabod when he and Abbie arrive to help Jenny. Um, this dripping with disdain thing is not exactly endearing. She shuts down Ichabod’s recitation of his qualifications, saying a professor like him should appreciate her doing research before she lets him see any more case files. “I got caught,” Jenny says when Abbie tries to intercede in her case, obviously ready to take the fall so the plans won’t be derailed. Jenny is my Queen of Badassery.
Frank Irving quickly passes a lie detector test by, you know, TELLING THE TRUTH. “A demon named Anticef,” was the real killer, not him. Reyes rolls her eyes at what she sees as a clear bid to escape maximum security prison. But she’s got friends at Tarrytown Psych, who apparently did their training under the One Flew Over the Cukoo’s Nest school of psychiatry. She assures him, “I’ll make sure you get all the latest” in “electroshock therapy [and] anti-psychotic drugs.” No, no, Irving, MY SWEET BABBOO!
“Remind me to make you another reading list,” Abbie tells Ichabod when he doesn’t get her Frankenstein’s monster reference (I totally want to see what was on the first reading list she made him!). “Even a man from the 18th century won’t ask for help with directions,” she notes when he gets them lost in the tunnels. Lookout, BAT-SES! I hope everyone on Team Witness has gotten special rabies boosters to protect them from all the CGI’ed bats. D:
Abbie goes quiet for a moment, remembering when the bats bum-rushed her in Purgatory in Moloch’s lair. When Ichabod gently asks after “her ordeal” there, she says the worst part was seeing him, or his evil double, just at the moment she was about to break. Purgatory plucks at weaknesses, Ichabod agrees.
“My faith in you is my greatest weakness,” Abbie says heavily, and BAM! Ichabod looks stunned; she looks disheartened, and there’s nothing I don’t love about that moment. We’ve seen Abbie be dubious with Ichabod, and learn to trust him, but it’s fascinating and utterly compelling to think of her as particularly vulnerable now because she’s arrived at a point where she trusts him so fully. We’re not getting to take anything for granted between the two of them this season, and it’s exactly the right complication their relationship needs as the narrative continues to gain layers.
“Lieutenant, do you think Katrina is my weakness?” Ichabod asks hesitantly. And BAM AGAIN, because I love love love that he’s still, even in the middle of panicking about how to save his wife, introspective enough to understand that, yeah, he might actually be wrong-stepping things here. “Maybe. Or maybe it’s Henry,” Abbie says carefully. Gah, she’s so fantastically tender with Ichabod’s feelings and family worries in this episode. *clutches heart*
“I think part of why you chose to take on Abraham rather than go after Henry is, because in spite of everything he’s done to us, Henry is still your son,” Abbie tells him. But we don’t get time to examine Ichabod’s unexamined choices about which literal demon to fight first. They discover the metal plates (which are booby-trapped battery style, a la Luigi Galvani; good thing his family crest on the seal gives that game away) concealing The Kindred. “Meet our new best friend, Franklin-stein’s monster,” Abbie pronounces when the pressed seal presents them with a fog-machine filled stitched-body-parts delivering coffin.
Katrina gets caught listening in on Abraham and Henry talking about how Moloch’s totally still going to rise, just you wait!
It doesn’t get more exclusive than this: the Two Horsemen of the Apocalypse Club
“The boy you knew as your son died in a pine box 200 years ago,” Henry scoffs when Katrina says he’s still her son. “Blindness is going to get your husband killed,” he taunts, explaining Ichabod is coming to save her. “The question is, who will save them?”
“Should we light candles?” Abbie asks doubtfully as she and Ichabod set up the props to raise the Kindred. “Only if you wish to set a mood,” Ichabod says distractedly.
Let’s raise ourselves a demon! I shall call him Squishy and he shall be mine and he shall be my Squishy.
Once the Horseman’s Head is on The Kindred (eye-twitching to scare Abbie because it feels Headless close by), Katrina launches a plan to distract Abraham inside. “The Witnesses aren’t meant to die at the hand of the Horseman,” she argues, but Abraham insists “Crane’s life will end on the eve your new life begins.”
Henry futzes around with a fountain pen under a microscope, and I can’t help but think of Ichabod sullenly yanking at the bank pen. Oh hey, it’s Henry’s body-less embodied armor! He watches it, eyes gone black, as it raises its helmet to cover its not-head.
As Ichabod and Abbie have several goes at raising The Kindred (“I’m not the witch in the family,” he complains when the first incantation doesn’t take), Katrina tries convincing Abraham that maybe she could learn to love the idea of their Gruesome Binding Ritual themed wedding. Rather than take her by force and “live an eternity knowing I am not truly yours,” give her time. He nods once. Okay, he’s utterly twisted and completely damned, but looks like Headless still has some romance in him after all.
Once The Kindred is finally animated, the fight is on between him and Headless. While Abbie strives to keep the distraction going, shooting Death’s armor when Henry’s remote-soul-controlled cipher shows to battle, Ichabod runs inside to save Katrina. But she insists Abraham will “scorch the earth” if she leaves. If she stays, she can spy on “a great plan in motion, one that involves all of us.”
Bunches of mean-spirited demonic fighting go on outside. Poor The Kindred!
A CREEPY MONSTER THAT FOR SOME REASON TUGS AT MY HEARTSTRINGS!!!!
Inside, Katrina reveals she also wants to stay to help Jeremy/Henry, who is still their son no matter how much darkness he embraced because of his suffering. Ichabod understands Katrina’s desires (and I do really like that Katrina has her own plans to help that Ichabod must acquiesce to), but he’s losing her again even though she’s out of Purgatory. We get a very cinematic emotionally-laden kiss, accompanied by swelling music. “You are forever in my heart,” he chokes out as he obeys Abbie’s call that they’re out of time.
Abbie and Ichabod hightail it away, leaving the poor The Kindred to draw off the two Horsemen. When Headless morphs into Abraham and heads back inside, he finds Katrina’s bindings undone. “You could have left,” he says, stunned when he finds she hasn’t fled. “This is not my world,” Katrina says, trying to convince him of her ambivalence. “You are wise not to acclimate to this world,” Abraham says righteously. “It will not exist much longer.” Not if we get our renewal before the upfronts, Abraham!
“There is a chance it simply disappeared,” Ichabod posits about the lost Head when they regroup at the cabin. Ahahaha, NOT LIKELY. I’m not the only one worried about The Kindred, right? It’s like a sad stitched-together soldier! Of SADNESS! “The way we fight monsters cannot be to create monsters,” Ichabod concludes; he won’t take that option again. Abbie wants to look on the bright side. They followed through on their plan, reached Katrina, and now they have a mole. “This time we’ll get ahead of them” before Moloch rises. Awfully cavalier about your disappeared monster and missing Head, aren’t you two?
Abbie goes to check on Jenny, who is still behind bars. “Just sit tight,” Abbie tells her; they have to step carefully with the new sheriff in town. But she appreciates how much Jenny took one for the team. “Just don’t take 13 years to come get me this time, okay?” Jenny calls as a guard takes her away. Eeep, I really don’t want Jenny imprisoned! Way to strain the tenuous détente between the two sisters! *worries*
“Might be time for another sedative,” Reyes mocks Captain Irving and HOW IS THAT EVEN CLOSE TO LEGAL, HER BEING ALL UP IN HIS PSYCH CARE?
I mean, COME ON!
But things soon go from bad to OH HELL NO territory, as Henry Parrish shows up claiming to be Irving’s new lawyer. Okay, at least he stops the electro-shocking and pill-pushing, but you know, this could have been avoided if Abbie had just given Irving the most basic run-down of the situation on the outside. “And Henry Parrish turned out to be Ichabod’s Sin Eater allied-with-evil son who betrayed us all, and by the way, he looks like a kindly religious studies professor” would have gone a LONG WAY toward preventing this kind of thing.
“I just need you to sign this,” Henry says cheerfully, giving Irving the pen he was messing with earlier. “It’s quite standard, confirmation you’re enlisting my services.” Um, does that pen have Evil Ink? HOCRAP, it’s worse: the pen pricks Irving’s fingers and he’s soon signing the contract in his own damn blood. IT’s a family heirloom, Henry apologizes, and it’s developed some rough edges over the years. They laugh about that as Irving signs his freaking soul away to the demonic side! That was easily the most horrifying and yet awesome thing of the entire episode.
Okay, so I didn’t post pics of Patriotic Cupcakes because, good gravy, not one of you requested it! Seriously, you don’t want to see Cupcakes that encapsulate why America’s History is Dark and Full of Demons? *hands*
I’d absolutely love to hear what you all thought of the episode in comments. And definitely make sure to join me for next week’s episode, “Root of All Evil”!
Written by: staff writer
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