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-*---- I think that part of the problem is that I have proposed a definition of science that I intended to be interpreted broadly and that Lee Lady has interpreted fairly narrowly. My definition is this: Science is the investigation of the empirical that avoids mistakes in reasoning and methodology discovered from pre...
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sci.med
84 Mazda Pickup Rebuilt engine at 60,000 miles. New Transmission, 5 speed. 88,000 miles. New brakes, new brake calipers. BRAND NEW CLUTCH, only 200 miles on it. professional ladder racks, can hold up to 6 ladders.. 4 cylinder, gets 30-35 miles to the gallon. Fog lights. Tach. Runs Great. =============== All inquires sh...
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I would think that you could reduce the defense of using non-clipper based encryption technologies to defending freedom of expression (IE, free speech). That you have to right to express whatever you want in whatever form your little heart desires so long as you do not impinge on the rights of others. Encrypted text...
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sci.crypt
[A GOOD DEAL OF HEALTHY IF NOT DEEPLY THOUGHT OUT IDEALISM DELETED BELOW.] If their parent company does business (and they will) on the face of the Earth then they are vulnerable to govt. sanctions. Yes they can be stopped. For the first 100 - 500 (IMHO) years nobody will have to. The colonists will be too depen...
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sci.space
Mr. Ward, before you start blathering about your skill "interpreting" the Constitution, it might be helpful to learn to read. After a review with a high school English teacher emphasizing participial phrases, you might start with the Second Amendment, and follow it up with: 97th Congress, 2nd Session, Committee Pri...
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sci.crypt
Hallo POV-Renderers ! I've got a BocaX3 Card. Now I try to get POV displaying True Colors while rendering. I've tried most of the options and UNIVESA-Driver but what happens isn't correct. Can anybody help me ?
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comp.graphics
This is vague, so I am posting it in case anyone else knows more. I recall reading of a phonograph which used mechanical amplification. Compressed air was squirted out of a valve which was controlled by the pickup. The result was noisy and distinctly lo-fi, but much louder than a conventional phonograph. It tended...
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sci.electronics
The balls are used to reduce the amplitude of oscillations of the wire during periods of high winds. I've seen what looks like paint cans filled with concrete used for the same purpose. Mike Behnke | Senior Tech/Advisor | Quid est illuidin aqua?? Fermi Nat Accel Lab | Equipment Suuport | Batavia, I...
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sci.electronics
[deletions] Sounds like it is an SMD interface to me, not being at work now to actually count pins. there are two varients, SMD and SMDC (I think), only minor differences between them. Widely used prior to the advent of SCSI for large drives (or all drives) on minis (and mainframes(?) no experience on those).
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sci.electronics
: >baseball players, past and present. We weren't able to come up : >with much, except for Sandy Koufax, (somebody) Stankowitz, and : >maybe John Lowenstein. Can anyone come up with any more. I know : >it sounds pretty lame to be racking our brains over this, but : >humor us. Thanks for your help. :
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rec.sport.baseball
I've got 7 episodes left on *Beta* for Sale at US$8 each (neg.), or for Trade 1-for-1 for movie on Beta or a used CD; or, a package deal for $50 or whatever you care to propose in trade -- e.g., all for a set of good stereo headphones (e.g. Sony V6 or V7), an Apple IWII sheet feeder, a good used FM/Cassette stereo "wa...
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misc.forsale
In this era of AIDS, isn't someone's fucking *everyone's* interest? (semi :-)) I propose "We have no motto." Recently in the glorious state of Maryland (the only state whose state song refers to Abraham Lincoln as a tyrant), people have gotten all wound up over the state motto (which we inherited from the Calverts...
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alt.atheism
Whether a scientific idea comes while one is staring out the window, or dreaming, or having a fantasy, or watching an apple fall (Newton), or sitting in a bath (Archimedes) ... it is ultimately the result of a lot of intense scientific thinking done beforehand. Letting one's mind roam freely and giving rein to one's...
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sci.med
The theory is that the hollering kills the spirit of the criminal/Nazi Armenians of the ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism Triangle. Now, try dealing with the rest of what I wrote. What is more, the activities of the Armenian Government seem to have been efforts aimed at eradicating a race (the Turks) or aim...
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talk.politics.mideast
I have a Fujitsu M2322K which has been removed (I believe) from a digital X-Ray machine (takes X-Ray pictures without film). The Fujitsu part number is B03B-4745-B002A. I have obtained some data on the device, it is 8-inch winchester-type of 168 megabyte capacity (though I was told it was over 800 megabytes). However...
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comp.sys.mac.hardware
Why do you title this "News you will miss" ? There have been at least three front-page stories on it in the L.A. Times. I wouldn't exactly call that a media cover-up. ___Samuel___ Mossad Special Agent ID314159 Media Spiking & Mind Control Division Los Angeles Offices
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talk.politics.mideast
What do I need to do to configure this drive as a slave? Model# CP30101G Please reply via e-mail. Thanks!!
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comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Since someone brought up sports radio, howabout sportswriting??? (Anyone give an opinion) Which city do you think has the best sports coverage in terms of print media? (these are general questions) Is the Washington Post better than the Philadelphia Inquier or the NY Times? Howabout the Philadelphia Daily New...
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rec.sport.baseball
In <MARC.93Apr18174241@oliver.mit.edu> marc@mit.edu (Marc Horowitz I have also been in contact with Mitch about this. I believe him when he says he didn't ask to be on the "clipper" list. He also forwarded the traffic he had recieved through that list to me which will be placed at some ftp site. However, the first ...
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sci.crypt
Many of you at this point have seen a copy of the Lunar Resources Data Purchase Act by now. This bill, also known as the Back to the Moon bill, would authorize the U.S. government to purchase lunar science data from private and non-profit vendors, selected on the basis of competitive bidding, with an aggregate cap...
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sci.space
Not provable. It's about as "provable" as the number of votes vast for Bill Clinton in the last election. If you accept the information available, you can prove one way or the other. If you refuse to accept it, nothing is "provable." Fine, support your assertation. But, you haven't supported any ass...
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talk.politics.guns
No. No. NOOO!!! The ground (green) wire is for safety. No current is supposed to flow in it under normal conditions. This means that there's normally no voltage drop in it either. It is supposed to be safe to touch the ground wire... even if you're grounded in some other way at the same time. The neutral (whi...
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sci.electronics
Recently while looking around in Traders Sporting Goods store, a very well stocked firearms store, I discovered a printed document that was being distributed by the good folks who work there. Traders, BTW, is located in San Leandro, CA. Granted, the document may be asking you and I to help out Traders, but in the bi...
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talk.politics.guns
Who the hell is this guy David Davidian. I think he talks too much.. Yo , DAVID you would better shut the f... up.. O.K ?? I don't like your attitute. You are full of lies and shit. Didn't you hear the saying "DON'T MESS WITH A TURC!!"... See ya in hell.. Timucin.
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talk.politics.mideast
Why not? Brooks Robinson is a defensive liability too, and Ted Williams is a weak hitter. Even great players decline as they age.
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rec.sport.baseball
God being unknowable, I can't comment on His motives, but it would be distressing if He allowed us to misunderstand Him through no fault of our own. For sanity's sake we must assume, if we believe in Him at all, that His message comes through somehow. The question is whether it comes through immed...
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comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
or there Okay, I guess its time for a quick explanation of Mac sound. The original documentation for the sound hardware (IM-3) documents how to make sound by directly accessing hardware. Basically, you jam values into all the even bytes from SoundBase to SoundBase+0x170. This was because of how the Mac 128 (and som...
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comp.sys.mac.hardware
Sorry but I forgot this ps. Right now my sight is getting news about two weeks behind so it's kind of necessary (to me) that any responses be sent to me directly. Thanks a lot
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sci.space
KC(?) news was doing a report on that. They said that McRae is really a batting coach and not a manager. But for some reason he took the job. Whatever the reason, the Royals need a new manager now...while it is too late.
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rec.sport.baseball
Actually, there is one condemnation of lesbian acts in the Bible, Romans 1:26. I think. In There are plenty who don't read the Bible. Or pray for that matter.
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talk.religion.misc
I have found Jewish people very imagentative and creative. Jewish religion was the foundation for Christianity and Islam. In other words Judaism has fathered both religions. Now Islam has turned against its father I may say. It is Ironic that after communizem threat is almost gone, religion wars are going to be on the...
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talk.politics.mideast
How does that compare with JPEG on the same images and hardware as far as size, speed, and image quality are concerned? Despite my skeptical and sometimes nearly rabid postings criticizing Barnsley and company, I am very interested in the technique. If I weren't I probably wouldn't be so critical. :-)
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comp.graphics
Maybe its a monitor problem. You mentioned that you swapped cards, but not monitors. Perhaps that could be it. Dan
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comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Recommended for what, DOS? That is a junk. Linux + gcc. Fire up gcc to compile libc and kernel at the same time running X11R5. Bad memory, bad motherboard, bad cache. change wait state of RAM. turn off turbo. change bus speed swap RAM.
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comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
HI All, Can someone point me towards some articles on 'boids' or flocking algorithms... ? Also, articles on particle animation formulas would be nice... ________________________________________________________________________ \________________________________________________________________________\| --- þ DeLuxeý ...
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comp.graphics
I have come to the conclusion that the TV stations here in LA WANT a riot to happen when the verdict comes in. In a not so subtle way they are preparing their audience for the worst and even going so far as to want SOMETHING to happen for their viewers with all their commercials and their "we are ready for anyt...
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talk.politics.misc
We have no way to know that the cultists burned the house; it could have been the BATF and FBI. We only have the government's word for it, after all, and people who started it by a no-knock search with concussion grenades are hardly disinterested observers. -- "On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to m...
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talk.religion.misc
I thought that under emergency conditions, the STS can put down at any good size Airport. IF it could take a C-5 or a 747, then it can take an orbiter. You just need a VOR/TAC I don't know if they need ILS. pat
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sci.space
No, but some OS's ( COHERENT , etc ) are able to drive one of the ports in polled mode without using the IRQ. In your example, after accessing the modem, the mouse won't work until you reboot, because the IRQ is used by the modem. Yes, you can change the IRQ's for com3/4, but it depends on your other hardware. com1 ...
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comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
The title says it all. I need to know the 44, 88, and 88c rom versions.
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comp.sys.mac.hardware
Still no good. WatchIT TV will not work on a with local bus video. It will not work in any high reolution modes either. The people who make the card assure me that they will have a card available in June that supports both local-bus and hi-res. BTW does anyone know the name of the company who makes watchit tv? Pho...
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comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
What are the volumes that it speaks besides the fact that he leaves your choices up to you? I definitely agree that it's rather presumptuous for either "side" to give some psychological reasoning for another's belief. MAC -- **************************************************************** ...
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alt.atheism
oops, that's KNX 1070. KNBR is up in 'Frisco, and down at 680.
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sci.electronics
From: "Preston K. Covey" <covey+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Gun Stats & Mortal Risks Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 18:35:05 -0500 (EST) Folks, Hail from the nether world. On February 4th, the Wall Street Journal carried a front-page article by Erik Larson entitled "Armed Force." I felt a reply was in order to his citation...
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talk.politics.guns
Hi, I am looking to buy an accelerated video card for my 486 DX 50 with ISA bus. I have a 14" SVGA NI monitor. I'm currently running DOS 5.0 and windows 3.1, although I'm considering OS/2 in the future. Can anyone make a suggestion for a video card that would suit my needs? How is Diamond speedstar? Stealth? Et...
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comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Aaahh... a problem very near and dear to my heart. In our case, other monitors cause this problem - the deflection coil of other monitors to be specific. Have also seen a monitor backed up to a fuse panel exhibit this problem. This sounds like your problem since flourescent lites, motors, etc several 10s of feet away...
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sci.electronics
Archive-name: cryptography-faq/part08 Last-modified: 1993/4/15 FAQ for sci.crypt, part 8: Technical Miscellany This is the eighth of ten parts of the sci.crypt FAQ. The parts are mostly independent, but you should read the first part before the rest. We don't have the time to send out missing parts by mail, so don't...
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sci.crypt
I've got no doubts that this would probably have gone ahead if Bush was still president. What's puzzling to me are the people who are apparently amazed that Clinton is going along with it.
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sci.crypt
Chapter 7 operation in Somlia. Almost Chapter 7 in Cambodia and Yugo. 'Bout time the UN started using force to make the peace happen. Hopefully, they will soon be doing the same with world economics.
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talk.politics.misc
I HEARTILY agree. Now that the BATF warrant has been unsealed, it is CLEAR that Clinton and Reno supported an ILLEGAL raid. Did they not KNOW this? NO authority for a 'no-knock" raid NO authority to use helicopters. NO authority to search for a "drug lab" And, apparently, not...
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talk.politics.guns
Does anyone know where I can FTP MPEG for DOS from? Thanks for any help in advance. Email is preferred but posting is fine. Scott ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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comp.graphics
imaginative? No, but at least it would be a theory.
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alt.atheism
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rec.sport.baseball
I haven't seen much info about how to add an extra internal disk to a mac. We would like to try it, and I wonder if someone had some good advice. We have a Mac IIcx with the original internal Quantum 40MB hard disk, and an unusable floppy drive. We also have a new spare Connor 40MB disk which we would like to use. The...
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comp.sys.mac.hardware
I have an Intel Above Board (16 bit) with 2 megs of ram that I would like to sell ASAP. Please email me offers if interested! Thanks
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misc.forsale
This is true for the mass market, but not for those who need strong crypto and are willing to pay the price. After all, one can buy strong crypto today if one is willing to spend enough. Thus the concern is not economic. The issue most worth worrying about is that after the system takes hold, the government will o...
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sci.crypt
Tony- While I honestly believe you believe you are doing a "good thing" by posting that piece of propaganda, I believe the more people believe that the more they will feel justified in their blatant persecution of gay oriented people. I have seen the film called "The Gay Agenda" and along with my church we found it t...
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talk.religion.misc
We have plenty of computer labs where the computers are left on all the time. I don't see any shorter lifespan than the ones we have in the offices which does get turned off at the end of the day. In fact, some of the computers in the labs have outlived some of the same ones in the offices. But it goes both ways so c...
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comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Well, you can accomplish both goals, actually, if you have a definite physical type in mind when you go to these (cough) church meetings.. If your tastes tend to smaller, more petite (cough) churchgoers, it is more likely that they will have a smaller head, and you can safely get a medium or small helmet. This w...
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rec.motorcycles
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talk.politics.misc
Misc. P2/2 Stuff! CARDS: (Micro Channel) (6) Arcnet, Coax, 83X9648. Net Cards. (3) Serial Adapter. P/N: 90X8459 (2) Parallel Adapters. P/N: 72X6753 (2) CoProcessor?? P/N: 83X7488 (2) Memory Expansion Option. P/N: 90X9507 Expanded Memory Adapter w/2Mb. P/N: 61X6752 Expanded memory Adapter, 0k, P/N: 90X87...
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misc.forsale
%I say buy out Henderson's contract and let him go bag groceries. Next %season, you'll be able to sign him for nothing. That goes for any bitching %ball player.
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rec.sport.baseball
3. With Soderstrom and Roussel, why the hell would the Flyers want to pick up an older and slumping Roy? (BYW, I could come up with a group of players they'd trade for.... but they wouldn't be from the same team.)
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rec.sport.hockey
It is model number #7033D, a 14" interlaced .28dp. BTW, if you have a number to contact the company, that would really be helpful to. Thanks for replying. I was beginning to believe that I was never going to get a reply. I posted this on the netnews bboard because the first message I sent to you was returned, and I...
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comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
(hudson) (me) /(hudson) /So. Why is someone elses will such a big deal if morality is all relative. I don't believe I ever said that morality was all relative. What I said was that I can make my mind up on my own, thank you, and that you don't have the right to tell others what to think. I think that you will fin...
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talk.religion.misc
I am no expert on this. But I am pretty sure there is no way to recover this. IDE drive has mapping information written directly on drives. When you low level format it, the information itself is gone as well, I don't think you can get it back unless you send it back to Western Digital and ask them to refurbish it...
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comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Yup. I can hear the _millions_ cheering for DK right now! Josef Stalin eat your heart out! :) -- Bake Timmons, III
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alt.atheism
TRIAD, the first drag-free satellite, was designed and built by the Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory and launched 2 Sept 1972. The satellite was in three sections separated by two booms. The central section housed the DISCOS Disturbance Compensation System, which consisted of a proof mass of specia...
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sci.space
Uh oh. This looks a bit too much like Bobby's "Atheism Is False" stuff. Are we really going to have to go through this again? Maybe the universe is cyclical! :) :(
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alt.atheism
I have been unable to get COM 4 to work - diagnostic programs such as msd show nothing installed. I think the software options are OK - is there a known hardware conflict and/or workaround for this problemand CD ROM System is a G2K 486DX2/66 tower with ATI video card Ports are set as follows On board COMa = COM1 IR...
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comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Preface: I am a novice user at best to the Windows environment. I am trying to execute a MS C++ 7.0 executable program which accesses a Btrieve database to build an ASCII file. When I execute it under windows the screen goes blank and my PC locks up. The only way for me to return is to reset the machine. Does any...
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Great, the first advantage of cheap coax, I've ever heard. Cheers Robert (HB9NBY)
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sci.electronics
Satan was one of God's highest ranking angels, like Uriel, Raphael, Michael, and Gabriel. In fact, his name was Satanel. He did challenge God's authority and got kicked out of heaven. A lot of the mythology of Satan (he lost the -el suffix when he fell) comes from the Book of Enoch and is not found in the bible. Re...
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soc.religion.christian
INTENSIVE JAPANESE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF PITTSBURGH THIS SUMMER ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The University of Pittsburgh is offering two intensive Japanese language courses this summer. Both courses, Intensive Elementary Japanese and Intensive Intermediate Japanese, are ten wee...
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sci.med
1. Do a straight encryption of your keyrings and put the results with misleading names somewhere they won't be noticed (eg. in the \windows directory; nobody knows what half those files are). 2. Do a straight encryption of a .BAT file that will decrypt the keyrings to RAMdisk and w...
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sci.crypt
DOS 5.0/6.0 cannot read the NTFS file system, although the NTFS file system can read the FAT file system of DOS. I have WindowsNT on a seperate partition on my machine at home, and I can read my DOS disks from Windows NT, but not vice-versa. As far as the robustness of the file system, it seems to be very fast, and ...
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comp.os.ms-windows.misc
I am most embarassed that my irrate, intemperate post is still circulating. I have been chided by experts for my behavior. I now agree with all of them, although some were no more restrained in their speech than I was 8) I have apologized to Robin Hanson. Lew
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sci.crypt
Yes, it's possible... in fact, there's some gl widget code in /usr/lpp/GL somewhere... (it's named Glib.c; my IBM's down right now though, so I can't find the exact location :) WARNING: this code feels quite bogus. It does things like calling noport() before winopen(), and then extracting an X window id from it anyw...
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comp.windows.x
Not in Indiana: they showed a tape-delay of Chicago v Boston, because WGN had the rainout of the cubs. So WGN showed reruns of Hitchcock. No hockey (at least in this part of the state). Go Aeros!
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rec.sport.hockey
I've had a couple of e-mail responses from people who seem to believe that this sort of thing is not only unsupported, it is downright dangerous. I have heard of no such warnings from anybody at Apple. Just to be sure, I asked a couple of our technicians, one of whom has been servicing Macs for years. There is *no* ...
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comp.sys.mac.hardware
... Maybe I'm a bit old-fashioned, but have you heard about something called Love? It used to play some role in people's considerations for getting married. Of course I know some people who married fictitiously in order to get a green card, but making a common child for 18,000$? The power of AA is limited. Your pro...
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talk.politics.mideast
Sorry, ARF - you dog, That news was suppressed because the Israeli national volleyball team repeatedly spiked it. Let this be a lesson to others not to invoke the wrath of sports nuts. (Brits lead the way in this regard, with ~220 casualties in the last 2 years.) Anyway, Yigal would never sue. His life is (presumab...
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talk.politics.mideast
Let us not forget the Nazi Armenians. Nazi Armenians were of service to Germans in Arab countries as well. As Uzun put it, one well-known case which received a lot of media-coverage involved two Nazi Armenian agents which were dropped over Syria by Italian war planes. The mission of the agents was to mingle among...
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talk.politics.mideast
Guess the subject says it all. I would like references to any introductory material on Image Databases. Please send any pointers to mini@point.cs.uwm.edu Thanx in advance!
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comp.graphics
seanna@bnr.ca (Seanna (S.M.) Watson) asks: > What is the objection to celebration of Easter? The objection naturally is in the way in which you phrase it. Easter (or Eashtar or Ishtar or Ishtarti or other spellings) is the pagan whore goddess of fertility. Therefore, your question to me is "what is the obje...
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soc.religion.christian
My next project is to come up with an IF/detector module for fast -- 112 to 250 kB/sec -- packet radio use. No fancy modulation scheme, just wide FSK for use at 902 or 1296 MHz. I'm a bit familiar with the Motorola 3362 chip, but I wonder if there are newer designs that might work at higher input frequencies. My goa...
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sci.electronics
^^^^^ What an incrediblt sexist remark! Come now, Mike, what ever possessed you to make such a un-PC remark? I hope all women out there reading this are as incensed as I am. Remember, WOMAN ARE JUST AS GOOD AS MEN!!!! Women stand up for your right to be just as stupid as men. In fact, insist on every oppurtunity t...
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talk.politics.guns
Could you expand on this? I have a feeling you're right, but I don't quite understand.
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sci.crypt
I have a Sun 3/60 that has a mono framebuffer (bwtwo0 ?) built on the motherboard. The same system also has a cgfour (cgfour0 and bwtwo1 ?) daughterboard. I have been using this system with a color monitor having a color "front" screen from the cgfour, and a mono "back" screen from the bwtwo1, both on the same tube. ...
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comp.windows.x
: Goodbye Minnesota,...you never earned the right to have an NHL : franchise in the first place! : Hope you enjoy your Twin city wide mania for HIGH SCHOOL HOCKEY : (hey, by the way my old pee wee team is having a reunion in Regina, care : to come up and film the event?) : Yee haa Golden Gophe...
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rec.sport.hockey
I recently attended an allery seminar. Steroid Nasal sprays were discussed. Afterward on a one-on-one basis, I asked the speaker what if none of the Vancanese, Beconase, Nasalide, Nasalcort, or Nasalchrom work nor do any oral decongestants work. She replied that she saw an article on Vasomotor Rhinitis. That th...
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sci.med
Do they have a history of working in massage parlors, and telling co-workers there that they are prostitutes? Do they frequent truck stop parking lots at 4:00 AM, without ID on any sort?
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talk.politics.misc
I got back from my trip to discover that my email spool file got blown away. I am missing all the playoff pool entries sent between April 5 and April 17. It looks like about 200 entries got lost. *Sigh*. Therefore, I would like to ask each person that sent me a team to resend it ASAP. I am relying on your honesty ...
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rec.sport.hockey
In that case why do they chase ST1100s & Goldwings? Tony
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rec.motorcycles
Better yet, instead of thrashing around on the DOS file system, take it a step further. Write yourself a minimal "file system" program that is used to create/delete files, en/decrypt them to ramdisk, list a directory. Put the util, password protected, on a floppy. The catch is that the storage space used by ...
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sci.crypt
Gee, I never knew Valentine made a comment about how Viola signing with Boston was gonna bring a World Series title to Boston. I don't think Valentine ever said Boston will win this year. Boy, talk about sensitive, insecure Toronto fans. :) In any case, I think Viola would have made a better signing. Why? Viola i...
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rec.sport.baseball
^^^^^ ^^^^^ *Would*? Ha Haaaa Haa ha haAA How the hell can they come up with a number, specified to the units column, on something as complicated as this? Face it, it's the perceptions that matter here, folks, not the facts. Especially this one: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ According to the Pit...
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talk.politics.misc
Having lived, played, and worked on and near the Navajo reservation for a number of years, I can confirm this is an ancient pattern, found in petroglyphs dated 800 to 1200 years old. Also, the Indians never stopped making rugs with this pattern - they just stopped selling them after the Nazi's pre-empted the swastika...
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