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However Jboss picketbox gives you a really easy way to go, unless you need something specific. | o |
I can't speak too much to JAAS itself, but this URL_http://static.springsource.org/spring-security/site/start-here.html ["suggested-steps"-guide] on Spring Security and URL_http://static.springframework.org/spring-security/site/reference.html [the-reference-manual] are both pretty good resources on Spring Security - if... | p |
The "suggested steps" guide has moved here: URL_http://static.springsource.org /spring-security/site/start-here.html. | o |
thanks, updated the link. | o |
For a purely JAAS tutorial check out URL_http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-09-2002/jw-0913-jaas.html [this] . | o |
It's old but should help with the JAAS basics. | o |
lsiu's answer is one the few answers here that really "get it" ;) Adding to that answer, a really good reference on this topic is URL_http://java.sys-con.com/node/1002315 [Whatever-Happened-to-JAAS? | o |
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It explains how JASPIC is the link in Java EE between the Servlet and EJB security models and potentially a JAAS login module, but that in many cases JAAS' role is reduced to that of a relatively simple username and roles provider in Java EE. | p |
From the same author is URL_http://raymondkng.sys-con.com/node/171477 [JAAS- in-the-Enterprise] , which is an older article but provides a lot of historical background on why the Java SE (JAAS) and Java EE models diverged the way they did. | o |
Overall but a few types from JAAS are directly used in Java EE, basically CODETERM1 , CODETERM2 , and CODETERM3 . | o |
The latter two are mainly used by JASPIC. | o |
I've explained JASPIC in the article URL_http://arjan- tijms.blogspot.com/2012/11/implementing-container-authentication.html [Implementing-container-authentication-in-Java-EE-with-JASPIC] . | o |
What's the best way to share business object instances between Java web apps using JBoss and Spring? | o |
We currently have a web application loading a Spring application context which instantiates a stack of business objects, DAO objects and Hibernate. | o |
We would like to share this stack with another web application, to avoid having multiple instances of the same objects. | o |
We have looked into several approaches; exposing the objects using JMX or JNDI, or using EJB3. | o |
The different approaches all have their issues, and we are looking for a lightweight method. | p |
Any suggestions on how to solve this? | o |
Edit: I have received comments requesting me to elaborate a bit, so here goes: The main problem we want to solve is that we want to have only one instance of Hibernate. | o |
This is due to problems with invalidation of Hibernate's 2nd level cache when running several client applications working with the same datasource. | p |
Also, the business/DAO/Hibernate stack is growing rather large, so not duplicating it just makes more sense. | o |
First, we tried to look at how the business layer alone could be exposed to other web apps, and Spring offers JMX wrapping at the price of a tiny amount of XML. | o |
However, we were unable to bind the JMX entities to the JNDI tree, so we couldn't lookup the objects from the web apps. | o |
Then we tried binding the business layer directly to JNDI. | o |
Although Spring didn't offer any method for this, using JNDITemplate to bind them was also trivial. | n |
But this led to several new problems: 1) Security manager denies access to RMI classloader, so the client failed once we tried to invoke methods on the JNDI resource. | n |
2) Once the security issues were resolved, JBoss threw IllegalArgumentException: object is not an instance of declaring class. | o |
A bit of reading reveals that we need stub implementations for the JNDI resources, but this seems like a lot of hassle (perhaps Spring can help us? | o |
) We haven't looked too much into EJB yet, but after the first two tries I'm wondering if what we're trying to achieve is at all possible. | o |
To sum up what we're trying to achieve: One JBoss instance, several web apps utilizing one stack of business objects on top of DAO layer and Hibernate. | o |
Best regards, Nils . | p |
Could you comment on 1. | o |
What problem you're trying to solve; 2. | o |
The issues you found with the respective approaches you mention. | o |
This would allow a more focused answer... | p |
It was difficult to say it all in 300 characters, so I edited the question to add more details :-). | n |
Are the web applications deployed on the same server? | o |
I can't speak for Spring, but it is straightforward to move your business logic in to the EJB tier using Session Beans. | p |
The application organization is straight forward. | o |
The Logic goes in to Session Beans, and these Session Beans are bundled within a single jar as an Java EE artifact with a ejb-jar.xml file (in EJB3, this will likely be practically empty). | o |
Then bundle you Entity classes in to a seperate jar file. | o |
Next, you will build each web app in to their own WAR file. | o |
Finally, all of the jars and the wars are bundled in to a Java EE EAR, with the associated application.xml file (again, this will likely be quite minimal, simply enumerating the jars in the EAR). | o |
This EAR is deployed wholesale to the app server. | o |
Each WAR is effectively independent -- their own sessions, there own context paths, etc. | o |
But they share the common EJB back end, so you have only a single 2nd level cache. | o |
You also use local references and calling semantic to talk to the EJBs since they're in the same server. | o |
No need for remote calls here. | o |
I think this solves quite well the issue you're having, and its is quite straightforward in Java EE 5 with EJB 3. | p |
Also, you can still use Spring for much of your work, as I understand, but I'm not a Spring person so I can not speak to the details. | o |
Yes, everything is deployed to the same server. | o |
This looks quite interesting, I'll give EJB a shot today. | p |
My point about Spring is that it offers to wrap beans for e.g. | o |
JMX without any code, but apparently not for EJB. | o |
Anyway, I look at the EJB approach today. | o |
What about spring parentContext?Check out this article: URL_http://springtips.blogspot.com/2007/06/using-shared-parent-application- context.html [ URL_http://springtips.blogspot.com/2007/06/using-shared-parent - application-context.html] . | o |
URL_http://www.terracotta.org/ [Terracotta] might be a good fit here (disclosure: I am a developer for Terracotta). | p |
Terracotta transparently clusters Java objects at the JVM level, and integrates with both Spring and Hibernate. | o |
It is free and open source. | p |
As you said, the problem of more than one client web app using an L2 cache is keeping those caches in synch. | o |
With Terracotta you can cluster a single Hibernate L2 cache. | o |
Each client node works with it's copy of that clustered cache, and Terracotta keeps it in synch. | p |
URL_http://www.terracotta.org/web/display/orgsite/Hibernate+Integration
[This-link] explains more. | o |
As for your business objects, you can use Terracotta's URL_http://www.terracotta.org/web/display/orgsite/Spring+Integration [Spring- integration] to cluster your beans - each web app can share clustered bean instances, and Terracotta keeps the clustered state in synch transparently. | o |
You should take a look at the Terracotta Reference Web Application - Examinator. | o |
It has most of the components you are looking for - it's got Hibernate, JPA, and Spring with a MySQL backend. | o |
It's been pre-tuned to scale up to 16 nodes, 20k concurrent users. | o |
Check it out here: URL_http://reference.terracotta.org/examinator [ URL_http://reference.terracotta.org/examinator ] . | o |
Actually, if you want a lightweight solution and don't need transactions or clustering just use Spring support for RMI. | p |
It allows to expose Spring beans remotely using simple annotations in the latest versions. | p |
See URL_http://stati c.springframework.org/spring/docs/2.0.x/reference/remoting.html [ URL_http://static.springframework.org/spring/docs/2.0.x/reference/remoting.html ] . | o |
I have used this approach to access shared Spring beans from a webapp. | o |
It works though I still feel there is probably a better/cleaner solution. | p |
If you don't like RMI, Spring offers a few other remoting options - Hessian, Burlap, and HttpInvoker (Spring's custom remoting solution - Java serialization over HTTP). | o |
Of course there are always web services as well. | p |
Spring does have an integration point that might be of interest to you: URL_http://static.springframework.org/spring/docs/2.5.x/reference/ejb.html [EJB-3-injection-nterceptor] . | o |
This enables you to access spring beans from EJBs. | o |
Thank you for your answers so far. | p |
We're still not quite there, but we have tried a few things now and see things more clearly. | o |
Here's a short update: The solution which appears to be the most viable is EJB. | o |
However, this will require some amount of changes in our code, so we're not going to fully implement that solution right now. | o |
I'm almost surprised that we haven't been able to find some Spring feature to help us out here. | o |
We have also tried the JNDI route, which ends with the need for stubs for all shared interfaces. | o |
This feels like a lot of hassle, considering that everything is on the same server anyway. | o |
Yesterday, we had a small break through with JMX. | o |
Although JMX is definately not meant for this kind of use, we have proven that it can be done - with no code changes and a minimal amount of XML (a big Thank You to Spring for MBeanExporter and MBeanProxyFactoryBean). | p |
The major drawbacks to this method are performance and the fact that our domain classes must be shared through JBoss' server/lib folder. | o |
I.e., we have to remove some dependencies from our WARs and move them to server/lib, else we get ClassCastException when the business layer returns objects from our own domain model. | o |
I fully understand why this happens, but it is not ideal for what we're trying to achieve. | n |
I thought it was time for a little update, because what appears to be the best solution will take some time to implement. | n |
I'll post our findings here once we've done that job. | o |
It's been suggested several times on this thread by myself and others, but have you looked at Terracotta? | o |
Unlike all the other solutions presented thus far, it is designed explicitly for state sharing which is what you asked for. | o |
I'm not really sure what you are trying to solve; at the end of the day each jvm will either have replicated instances of the objects, or stubs representing objects existing on another (logical) server. | o |
You could, setup a third 'business logic' server that has a remote api which your two web apps could call. | o |
The typical solution is to use EJB, but I think spring has remoting options built into its stack. | o |
The other option is to use some form of shared cache architecture... which will synchronize object changes between the servers, but you still have two sets of instances. | o |
Not so if you use Terracotta. | o |
Take a look at URL_http://www.jboss.org/jbosscache/ [JBossCache] . | o |
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