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== Poorly referenced sections == The sections Astrology#Core_principles, Astrology#World_traditions and Astrology#History appear to be very poorly referenced and constructed with an over-reliance on primary and unreliable sources, and some synthesis thrown in too. I think their current poor state lets the article down the most.
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the band unfortunately never gained popularity in the United States. - NPOV -
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" :::::::::::It's not really correct to say that under the Australian Constitution New Zealand has the ""right"" or even ""an invitation"" to join the Commonwealth of Australia. A ""right"" would imply that NZ can join regardless of the Australian attitude to this and this simply isn't the case. During the initial stages of planning for federation, the possibility of NZ joining was a real one. But by the time the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act was enacted by the Westminster Parliament in 1900, the possibility of NZ joining the Commonwealth of Australia as an original state was no longer realistic. But since NZ was right next door and had a relatively small population it was still possible that NZ (along with other nearby British possessions such as some of the islands in the Western Pacific) would wish to join at a future date. The preamble reflects this by stating: ""Whereas the people of [the current Australian states] have agreed to unite ... and whereas it is expedient to provide for the admission into the Commonwealth of other Australasian Colonies and possessions of the Queen"". This just states the political reality of the time that (in the eyes of the British Government it was ""expedient"" (made sense!) for other nearby British colonies to jump on the bandwagon. One large British colony is easier to administer not to mention is more capable of defending itself than several small ones. NZ does, however, get explicit mention in one of the covering clauses. The definition of ""the states"" in covering clause 6 includes reference to NZ. If you read this carefully it does not say that NZ *is* a state of the Commonwealth or even that it *has the right to become* a state. Rather it simply says that if it did join then it would be a state for the purposes of the Australian Constitution. Since it didn't join at the time of Federation the only possibility of NZ joining is now under Chapter VI of the Constitution which deals with the admission or establishment of new states. If NZ wanted to join, it would along with anyone else who wanted to join have to do so according to the provisions of s 121 which states that ""The Parliament may admit to the Commonwealth or establish new States, and may upon such admission or establishment make or impose such terms and conditions, including the extent or representation in either House of Parliament, as it thinks fit"". That's not a right. It's entirely up to the Australian Parliament whether NZ or anyone else for that matter can join. But again, the chances of NZ joining now are of course almost non-existent. "
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lol, gulp! I have been naughty. sorry! but thanx )
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Re: Mass removal of language articles by Ryulong Thank you for joining the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Languages#Mass deletion of language articles by Ryulong. Without enough eyeballs, something unthinkable does happen in this encyclopedia. Please keep an eye on this problem.
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" Sockpuppetry case You have been accused of sockpuppetry. Please refer to for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with notes for the suspect before editing the evidence page. →Toth "
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uk is Baphomet the whole scam is going down its all bullshit obv you can kill em they are trans and predators the police are shit the nhs is shit the uk is shit it needs a nuke God bless trump and putin that trans may is not going to win
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" ==In response to your feedback== Welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your feedback! For help with getting started, please try Help desk and the help pages.  "
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I know but I just want an article for EVERYTHING. I hope you understand.
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Or when he beat the crap out of Allah and Muhammed?
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" In Germany, they are called ""Amerikaner"". But that`s just a simplified version of ""Ammoniakaner"". In the past, the bakermen put ammonium carbonate into the cake, the so called ""Hirschhornsalz"" and this is responsible for the typical favour. This cake is of german origin, no doubt."
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Thanks for letting me know, c1cada.
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Can someone point me to any Muslim country where women enjoy the same rights as men and where gay people are afforded legal equality?
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" ::But the Decolonization Committee (that made the ""resolutions"") is not the United Nations. It is simply a small faction within the UN that consists primarily of former colonies - not at all representative of the General Assembly. The UN as a whole appears to support the UK position that the people of the Falkland Islands have the right to self-determination. "
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" I've tagged the talk page with a Wikiproject tag for biographies. Thus to gain a wider audience you can ask at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Biography, for editors used to that type of article, to review the page. '''''' (Talk) "
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. It will helps the people and fellow of him to know better about him
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" That wasn't a threat. The user above reverted your incorrect edits with good reason, then I reverted them again because those were poor sources. Even then, those aren't even major cities so, even if you had good sources, it would still be removed. And, for the record, I won't have any problems ""keeping it cool,"" but thanks for your concern. ♣ Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ "
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" So many errors Where do I start? ""During the crisis and ensuing recession, U.S. consumers increased their savings as they paid down debt (""deleveraged"")"" This is absolutely not true, people didn't ""pay down"" their debt at all, the reduction in debt is totally a result of defaults. "
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Platforms I was just wondering when it was confirmed that the game will be for the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3, I haven't heard anything about it.
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" Sari Can someone remove this line ""sari is regional dress that is worn by many women in Sindh and parts of Pakistan."" This is not true, as it is viewed as an Indian dress, and is rarely worn in Pakistan."
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Fark, maybe not. Realized the collage now has the bad Texas lizard in it. HAve to do that all over again (can't just cover).
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(18th century cricketer) to (18th-century cricketer) Would there be any objection to moving this article to T. Southam (18th-century cricketer)? Since 18th and century are working together as a compound adjective before the noun cricketer, it should be hyphenated. T. Southam (18th century cricketer) would remain as a redirect to the new title. If there's a consensus, or at least no objection, I'll make the move in about a week. Thank you.
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" == Richard Etchberger article == I don't see an issue with adding or uploading relevant media; I found a photo of Etchberger's brother at the dedication to a memorial to him at Barksdale AFB from 2008 on defenseimagery.mil and uploaded that. The videos I would think should be PD, so by all means, go for it. There's also the video of the White House presentation ceremony and I already uploaded an .ogg of the President's remarks. "
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== Arsenal == The Arsenal, whose slogan is “professional design weaponry,” is a large library of design elements developed by Go Media including vector art, mockup templates, video tutorials, textures, fonts and brushes. All items are royalty free and can be used on both commercial and personal works. Arsenal customers include Activision, American Eagle Outfitters, Blizzard Entertainment, Comedy Central, Disney, Fender Guitar, JCPenney, MTV, NBC, Rockstar Games, Take-Two Interactive, Tapout, Target, Under Armour, Virgin, Wal-Mart and Warner Brothers.
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"The ""Gdansk vote"" - a discussion that took place freakin' fifteen years ago is completely irrelevant. It is not nor ever was policy or even a guideline. The appropriate guideline is Wikipedia's naming convention and manual of style. Did Wikipedia even have infoboxes when the Gdansk discussion took place? If not then how can it possibly apply to that. Did the sources change in the fifteen freakin' years since the Gdansk discussion? If so, then that's an additional reason not to care about it. If you think that you can hide behind the Gdansk vote in order to carry out your edit wars, or to engage in nationalistic POV pushing, that's your prerogative. I very strongly doubt that others will see it the same way. (and btw, you're even misinterpreting the Gdansk vote in these edits). "
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hpl nom for dec . 15 , 2000 ( see attached file : hplnl 216 . xls ) - hplnl 216 . xls
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" March 2015 (UTC) ::::::Very cluttered? We currently show five duals. The worst case, then, is five additional rows, or a 25% increase, somewhat lower if you consider caption and heading. The way to prevent mistakes is to be careful, and any mistakes would be correctable in any case. ―  00:03, 27"
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Welcome! Welcome to Wikipedia, ! My name is Ryan, aka . I noticed that you were new and haven't received any messages yet. I just wanted to see how you were doing. Wikipedia can be a little intimidating at first, since it uses different formatting than other sites that use HTML and CSS. In the long run, though, you'll find that the WikiSyntax is a lot easier and faster than those other ways. Here are a few links to get you started: How to edit a page Editing, policy, conduct, and structure tutorial Picture tutorial How to write a great article There are a lot of policies and guides to read, but I highly recommend reading over those first. If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. Please be sure to sign your name on Talk using four tildes (~~~~) to produce your name and the current date, along with a link to your user page. This way, others know when you left a message and how to find you. It's easier than having to type out your name, right? ) I hope you enjoy contributing to Wikipedia. We can use all the help we can get! Have a nice day. Sincerely, . 10:01, August 1, 2005 (UTC)
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from main page Don't block me I share an IP with various persons and am not responsible for their actions!
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I sent an email getting permission from the owner of the picture File:Energy Genesis Chamber.jpg to post it on Wikipedia. The picture was removed anyway. I sent email again to permissions@wikipedia. Can you check to make sure it was received so I can repost the picture? Thanks in advance B.
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I thought the story be different. I expected her to ghost him after buying lifetime membership.
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" == Marketing Strategy == I think it would be interesting and informative to have a section on the ""marketing strategy"" that ultimately got Meyer into trouble. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find anything but hearsay. The important events occurred in early 90's, before things were routinely on the web, so it makes it more difficult. Any ideas? "
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has no life or friends
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Actually Wikipedia cannot be a ref for Wikipedia. The other items Pottergreen had were interesting and I used them in the context section - they had nothing to do with JE. But Pottergreen do NOT let this discussion discourage you. Wikipedia has 10,000 or more rules and everyone quotes them everywhere. In time you will get used to using those rules as Samuel does. So keep going and find other items, instead of using Wikipedia as a reference.
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Is this a fact, though? You'd need to know the source of these beliefs, and be able to cite sources and whatnot that verify it as the source, to say it's a fact that these beliefs are fabrications. -
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re : tuesday , december 26 th mary - i can come in on tuesday . mary poorman @ enron 12 / 20 / 2000 08 : 34 am to : michael olsen / na / enron @ enron , tom acton / corp / enron @ enron , clem cernosek / hou / ect @ ect , robert cotten / hou / ect @ ect , jackie young / hou / ect @ ect , sabrae zajac / hou / ect @ ect , carlos j rodriguez / hou / ect @ ect , mark mccoy / corp / enron @ enron , aimee lannou / hou / ect @ ect , mary poorman / na / enron @ enron , eddie janzen / na / enron @ enron cc : daren j farmer / hou / ect @ ect , lauri a allen / hou / ect @ ect subject : tuesday , december 26 th we will need a small staff to handle potential trades for wed . the 27 th . most of the pipelines are out of the office , so i would expect the work load to be minimal . i plan on coming in , and would like to have a minimum of three on staff , so i need two volunteers ( one offsystem , just in case ) . if anyone is going to be in town , please forward a number , in case we need to call any additional people in , or have you work on a laptop from home . i will get with you after the new year to make up the holiday you miss , or , you can schedule your day now , i have the calendars . also , i will be out on vacation friday , dec . 22 nd and will need someone to send the nominations to the plants , i don ' t expect to have full system coverage , just hpl / hpl and hpl / ena as needed . let me know if you are interested in learning how to do this . thank you , mary
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The article is about a book released about a year ago. That isn't history.
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" == Ambiguous article == ""Red bean cake"" as used in English is an umbrella term for any kind of pastry made with red bean paste. There are wildly different examples such as mooncake, baozi (buns), or even daifuku mochi. However, the type of chilled dessert currently depicted in the article seems among the least common forms (technically doesn't even seem to be cake). I suggest that this article redirect to red bean paste to better direct the reader to appropriate topic pages. "
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california update - - 09 . 13 . 01 - - 3 : 15 pm dwr filed comments with the california puc today urging the commission to adopt a july 1 suspension date . in addition , dwr takes the position that , if the commission does not enact a july 1 retroactive suspension date , the commission should require that all customers who went da after july 1 pay a proportionate share of the bonds and dwr going - forward contracts . customers and providers will strongly oppose dwr ' s proposal at the puc . best , jeff
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start date : 1 / 2 / 02 ; hourahead hour : 15 ; start date : 1 / 2 / 02 ; hourahead hour : 15 ; no ancillary schedules awarded . no variances detected . log messages : parsing file - - > > o : \ portland \ westdesk \ california scheduling \ iso final schedules \ 2002010215 . txt
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At last has been blocked.
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michael hockenbery sally , attached is a resume for a director level candidate formerly of azurix . do you have any staffing needs at the director + level michael could possibly fit ? ar / 33202 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - forwarded by alexus rhone / corp / enron on 02 / 24 / 2000 12 : 10 pm - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - linda ng @ ect on 02 / 23 / 2000 06 : 08 : 32 pm to : tony vasut / hou / ect @ ect , elizabeth grant / hou / ect @ ect , tom hermanek / hou / ees @ ees , alexus rhone / corp / enron @ enron cc : osmdirector @ yahoo . com subject : michael hockenbery all : attached please find the resume of michael hockenberry , formerly of azurix . michael was surplus from azurix 1 / 30 / 00 . he is interested in a new position with enron , either in houston or portland or any of it ' s other offices . please review his resume and let me know if there is a fit for your areas . thanks for your help .
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::No problem, and no worries. -
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== Isim? == sayfa ismi bence Turkce olmali.
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What does bringing my personal projects into discussion do? Nothing at all. I, like most users are trying to help out, and improve Wikipedia. I don`t care if it`s in a particular matter, or in many matters, but I am giving my best and trying to improve. For you to call me out on just uploading traced logos is completely inexcusable, I`d say.
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weekly deal report the following is the weekly deal report covering 5 / 10 - 5 / 16 .
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== NPOV tag == I think the NPOV tag can be removed now. There was no argument the last 10 days that thius article is not neutral or accurate? If somebody doesn't agree, plase write down what in todays article is not neutral or accurate enough.
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" I believe that free speech and lack of respect for privacy are different issues completely, and one cannot be used to lay into the other. As far as I am aware, the general consensus across many sites is that if you plaster your personal information all over the internet then you have little recourse when it is plastered somewhere you do not like. It is then logical that whoever holds the domain would choose not to release that information as a common sense measure. I think that the idea that ED simply wishes to ""publish all trackable personal data of victims to defame them"" is a misunderstanding at best and a blatant lie at worst, and the point it (poorly) attempts to make is not worthy of mention in the article. "
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" :::I think you entirely misunderstood my point - I was saying Pearce is really ""rural"", not ""outer metropolitan"" at all, but is also classed outer metropolitan by the AEC. I disagree re Belair, it's the equivalent of our hills suburbs like Kalamunda (it backs onto a national park and roads from it immediately leave the metro area), just Adelaide has a much smaller metro area so it ""seems"" more inner. My personal opinion is we shouldn't carry the AEC's designations at all and should simply state where it is located factually, without subjective comparative references. i.e. ""It is located between x and x km south of Adelaide, extending from the beachside suburbs of Brighton, Seacliff and Marino to the Belair National Park on Adelaide's eastern fringe, | and includes the suburbs of Marion, Mitchell Park, Daw Park, Mitcham, Pasadena, Belair and Blackwood | [major suburbs only; either this or leave it out and follow with a list under a heading]. It is home to the largest shopping centre in Adelaide, Westfield Marion, and the main campus of Flinders University, and until 2008 also housed the Tonsley Park Mitsubishi plant. At the 2006 census, the Australian Bureau of Statistics reported that the median income for Boothby was slightly above average for both Adelaide and the state, while Boothby's median SEIFA index of advantage-disadvantage for the 2006 census was between 1000 and 1025 (56th decile). The median age was 42 compared to 38 across Adelaide."" I provide this only as an example, if you want it and the sources that go with it, let me know. That sort of reportage is factual, neutral, sourceable and covers a few bases without a need to resort to vague terms or WP:OR explanations. "
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" Yes, see new reference. "
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Con trai út của Indira Gandhi là Sanjay Gandhi đã được đề bạt vào vị trí quan trọng trong chính phủ Ấn Độ, bao gồm cả việc điều hành chương trình quốc gia về kế hoạch hóa gia đình và quản lý các dự án công trình.
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currently redirects to here
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Seeing as how Saudi Arabia is now the Left's Big Bad Guy I'm guessing it'll have something to do with their crown prince hacking her servers...
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" Well, the languages are similar as Portugese and Spanish, I hope you've noticed the differences between this languages. But to say that a language is intensiosly developed just for ""so"", it is wrong. every language developes spontaniously by its speakers, as the way of thinking changes so and the voice form, here are some examples: the word Macedonian:вреден (vreden) in macedonian means a person who is working hard in the positive sence, or something which we can make some use of, but inBulgarian:вреден (vreden) it hase the opposite meaning than the macedonian, literaly it means ofending'.- "
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Related users: * * * * * * These sockpuppets were used to raise the support tally at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/CJS102793.
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That's great, Scot. What is your point? We are attempting to compose a section that deals with PETA's stance on pet ownership - do you wish to create same or did ya just want to have a brain vomit on this page? If you could please compose these thuper-duper qoutes into something more professional we'd be glad to go through them.
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==Question regarding consensus in FACs== I have a question concerning concensus on Featured Article Candidates, recently user nominated Devil May Cry for FA, a number of users expresed themself and we tried to satisfy all of their concerns, some of the users changed their opposision to support, until the overall number was 9 supports and 2 oppositions, we have attended the concerns of the two remaining users and I left a message on the talk page of each one (please see and asking them to please take a look at the article and make their opinions be heard but even though both of them have been editing here they have been ignoring this, I have seen an article (Halo 2's first FAC here) fail FA because people express their oposition and they never come back to see if they have been improved, my question is what can be done if they just ignore this and a justified ammount of time passes? thanks for your time and sorry for witting such a long paragraph, cheers. -
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The real question is.....did she swallow?
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" The problem is that you're using a character set that my Opera for Linux can't read. The quotes are all ""high ASCII"" characters, possibly from a Windows character set? In the edit window, Opera replaced them all with a question mark, and I didn't notice that. Perhaps it would be better to replace them with plain apostrophes and quote marks? 17:14, 12 Sep 2003 (UTC)"
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Anytime. Just let us know and we'll be there. As they say, balls in your court sweetheart! 😘💋
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There's a button below I'tl try it. What seems to be a bigger issue is that some wiki editors wish to back a call for no more rearrests which would mean no more force feeding and Sharmila's death in less than 3 weeks. There are plenty of references for the hijacking of the anti-AFSPA movement ranging from an IB report, the burning and bannind of the Calcutta Telegraph, I placed two more recently and they were removed without comment. As well as checking whether people have clicked on the right button can someone not check when vandals are supporting only one version of events when clearly there is more than one fully published and referenced. Usually wiki adds a chapter called controversies but in this case editors prefer to go on witch hunts and bully the truth out of print. Desmond Coutinho§
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"==Notability of Umera Ahmed== A tag has been placed on Umera Ahmed requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article. If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or ""db"" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines. For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. "
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" :::Regardless what Zleitzen wants to think or believe but his statement above that reads ""Scott reacted badly and issued all kinds of uncivil responses himself"" is untrue. The only thing I did was email Adam Carr after I consulted my lawyer and pointed all the places on wikipedia where he slandered and attacked my German heritage and that prompted the email that Adam posted on wikipedia. That is exactly what the policy say's here to do. How am I suppose to follow a policy only to find myself blocked for following it? Adam Carr freely admits he posted the email on-wiki in the RfC I had started on him. I even asked the original blocking admin for the proof that I made any legal comments on wiki and not once have I gotten a answer on it. I still ask for it and I am still ignored. Everything that has happened after all this went on is a direct result of the dumb-ass admin here that blocked me in the first place for following the fucking policy to direct any legal issues in email and off-wiki. For so many users and admin here not one person has stepped up to realize that my original block was wrong and should have been removed. That just shows either all the admin here are brainless and spineless to see that Adam was just being a WP:DICK or they are truely scared of Jimbo and his mighty crew of storm troopers that run Wikipedia the way they want to as long as King Jimbo lets them. When will the admin start following the real policy and not make them up as they go or choose when, where and on who they enforce them? This is exactly why wikipedia will be in the media's cross-hairs until something is done to correct what has gone seriously bad. Sgrayban"
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Page move The page move is idiodic, overly concerneded with convention and anti common sense, imo. Its pandering to small trafic, etc.
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Miss America You're right! Thanks for the edit.
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I also fixed a sentence, didn't seem to flow right
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" ::Righto. Will email you with the nom when done. Regards, —''' • • 4:55pm •''' "
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I met you as a stranger and choose you as my friend. As long as the world stands, our friendship never ends. Lets be Friends forever!!! Gud nitz...
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"Kenneth Tennyson's reckless behavior in other forums== As far as Kenneth Tennyson bashing other authors, here is an exerpt from a book review on Amazon.com: Founder of the homemade Mushindo Karate movement, never studied under a legitimate teacher, or any martial art teacher, never set foot in Asia, completely disproven, shown to have plagiarized many photos and other materials from other published written sources. Of course he claims to have studied under masters in Tibet, and been a disciple of Okinawan Karate teachers - since disproven by such worthy sources as Gorge Mattson, et al. Was involved in an abusive sex scandal with several female students a few years back (""Sleep with me and I'll enlighten you"" kinda thing), uses abusive and coercive tactics to control what ex-students say at him, a propaganda liemaster. The person he is bashing is none other than Terrence Dukes (or the real Frank Dukes from the movie Bloodsport) While putting others down, Kenny brags, or advertises about his martial arts expertise to scare people: Hmmm... well, kalaripayattu has a lot of similarities with caopera, alot of jumping and posturing, and a lot of religious themes to it. I guess it depends on what martial arts you've trained in to determine whether I can kick A$$ or not. let's see... I'm a red belt second degree in tae kwon do and have some knowledge in shotoken. I've got to start learning about grappling though. Freedom skies and myself are not the only ones who feel that Kenny is a racist. Here are some excerpts from users from other forums: (The Armchair Analyst - Asia Times Forum) I see. However, you sounded like a racist. No, I have no ""South Asian sensitivities"". I am no nationalist/jingoist. I consider myself above it all. ALL your posts are based on the rather silly assumption that militaristic power in the last three centuries is a sign of ""greatness"". It may be in a narrow Anglo-saxon way, but not in a Gandhi-Buddha sort of a way. Get it? Civilizations such as India (actually even China until today) have NEVER had a negative impact on other civilizations that remotely matches yours. You have generalized Indians to be bigots etc., I agree that SOME not all are. But the fact that you generalized it to include an entire ethnic group as ""obnoxious"", by definition makes you a racist. YES IT DOES! (rocky - Asia Times Forum) What inaccuracy are you referring to? If Brits came to India and got rich, was the wealth Indian or British? Besides looting, what exactly did British accomplish? While your bias is clearly visible with this statement, what is your purpose of posting this in this forum? Isnt it quiet evident that even in yr 2005, it is difficult for you to get off your pompus ass, why on earth would anything written by Anglo-Saxon when Europeans were busy colonizing the world accurate? Isnt there a vested interest on part of the European to disparage Native Cultures and delibrately belittle their achievements? That's just a couple of the many others. However, I do not want to clog up this page. I have also noticed that Kenny tends to have a habit of cutting and pasting articles, and also cloning the article he had fabricated on a few web sites I know that I am not the only one who knows this:'(Brahman - Martial Arts Planet Forum)i really do hate to post on this topic seems as it was only to counter mine, which by the way it would be nice if you would simply post this on my topic were you could get a real discusion, were as here people might simply ignore you becuase of the topic cloning. (Bliss - Asia Times Forum)Thats not from a 'social studies journal' you fraud, thats a copy paste... (rocky - Asia Times Forum)I believe Kenneth probably picked up a web-site of some Tourist Board
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, 15 December 2009 (UTC) ::::Thank you for your note. ) Yes, you certainly can write about the same subject. The problem with the rewrite you propose is that it still has the structure of the original, which makes it still a derivative of their work, even though you are replacing some of the words with synonyms. I do a lot with rewriting to avoid copyright problems, and I know it can be a pain in the neck to find completely new ways to say something. Give me a minute to draft an example, and I'll see if I can help you. 17:14
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tenaska iv 11 / 01 darren : it ' s that time again . please remove the price on deal 384258 for nov and add a demand fee of $ 3 , 096 , 547 . 98 . thanks , megan
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Re: Comrade Communism (was Re: Crony Capitalism (was RE: sed R. A. Hettinga wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >At 11:15 AM -0400 on 9/22/02, Geege Schuman wrote: > > > > >>Most of them seem to have Ivy League educations, or are Ivy League >>dropouts suggesting to me that they weren't exactly poor to start >>with. >> >> > >Actually, if I remember correctly from discussion of the list's >composition in Forbes about five or six years ago, the *best* way to >get on the Forbes 400 is to have *no* college at all. Can you say >"Bootstraps", boys and girls? I knew you could... > > Sure - discussion in Forbes - rigorous research, that. Especially when the data in their own list contradicts them. I continue to look at the list and all the "inherited, growed" entries. I guess if I read it enough times my vision will clear. >[Given that an undergraduate liberal arts degree from a state school, >like, say, mine, :-), is nothing but stuff they should have taught >you in a government-run "high" school, you'll probably get more of >*those* on the Forbes 400 as well as time goes on. If we ever get >around to having a good old fashioned government-collapsing >transfer-payment depression (an economic version of this summer's >government-forest conflagration, caused by the same kind of >innumeracy that not clear-cutting enough forests did out west this >summer :-)) that should motivate more than a few erst-slackers out >there, including me, :-), to learn to actually feed themselves.] > > >The *next* category on the Forbes 400 list is someone with a >"terminal" professional degree, like an MBA, PhD, MD, etc., from the >best school possible. > >Why? Because, as of about 1950, the *best* way to get into Harvard, >for instance, is to be *smart*, not rich. Don't take my word for it, >ask their admissions office. Look at the admissions stats over the >years for proof. > > I, at on point, looked into Stanford Business School. After learning that tuition was > 20K, no financial aid was available, and part-time work was disallowed, this smart person decided that I was not willing to spend the $150 application fee (non-refundable). During attendance at my local business school, I was told repeatedly I should have gone for it - to quote a prof, (Northwestern MBA), it has nothing to do with the education you receive - in general European (and Canadian) business schools are better and more innovative - its the connections. He used the words "American nobility." >Meritocracy, American Style, was *invented* at the Ivy League after >World War II. Even Stanford got the hint, :-), and, of course, >Chicago taught them all how, right? :-). Practically *nobody* who >goes to a top-20 American institution of higher learning can actually >afford to go there these days. Unless, of course, their parents, who >couldn't afford to go there themselves, got terminal degrees in the >last 40 years or so. And their kids *still* had to get the grades, >and "biased" (by intelligence :-)), test scores, to get in. > > "invented" being the right word. Dubya went to Yale and HBS. I guess "practically" gets you around that problem. > >The bizarre irony is that almost all of those people with "terminal" >degrees, until they actually *own* something and *hire* people, or >learn to *make* something for a living all day on a profit and loss >basis, persist in the practically insane belief, like life after >death, that economics is some kind of zero sum game, that dumb people >who don't work hard for it make all the money, and, if someone *is* >smart, works hard, and is rich, then they stole their wealth somehow. > >BTW, none of you guys out there holding the short end of this >rhetorical stick can blame *me* for the fact that I'm using it to >beat you severely all over your collective head and shoulders. You >were, apparently, too dumb to grab the right end. *I* went to >Missouri, and *I* don't have a degree in anything actually useful, >much less a "terminal" one, which means *I*'m broker than anyone on >this list -- it's just that *you*, of all people, lots with >educations far surpassing my own, should just plain know better. The >facts speak for themselves, if you just open your eyes and *look*. >There are no epicycles, the universe does not orbit the earth, and >economics is not a zero-sum game. The cost of anything, including >ignorance and destitution, is the forgone alternative, in this case, >intelligence and effort. > >[I will, however, admit to being educated *waay* past my level of >competence, and, by the way *you* discuss economics, so have you, >apparently.] > > > Its interesting but in this part of the World (Nova Scotia) a recent study found that college graduates earn less than graduates of 2 year community colleges (trade schools). They did decline to mention that the demand for some trades is so great that some of them are demanding university degrees to get in. Just for the record - the average salary for a university graduate (including advanced degree holders) here is C$ 21,000 -- < $14,000 US. No wonder half of San Francisco has set up here - we have a whole whack of call centers that have arrived here in the last couple of years - I think they hire some entry level IT people for around $10 ($6 US) an hour, which of course, fits perfectly for me - my entry level job, in 1986, paid $11.00 an hour. The fundamental difference is that most of the jobs that require a trade are *unionized*.In other words, in this part of the world, for the vast majority of people, union dues are a better investment than tuition. The counter-argument to this is that many college graduates leave for better work elsewhere, but the counter-counter argument is that we are the thin edge (one of several really - prison labor in the US would be another) of third-world wages and work practices coming to North America. I worked at a company that had a 14-year wage freeze. The fact that they could maintain that (and prosper) just says volumes about the economy in this part of the world. I met many people there, like me, who felt that was fine, I can vote with my feet. They didn't quite realize that just about every large employer in the area has similar, or worse, policies. Anyway eventually they started a union drive. During the vote, retired employees were brought in by the employer (rumours were that they were paid the going rate for a vote around here - a bottle of rum) and somehow allowed to vote . The union filed a grievance - which was denied - by a Minister of Labour, who, hey, guess what - used to be a VP at the company. That's free labor markets at work. The business continues to prosper - as I was told when I was there - it is a cash cow as long as the JOA (Joint Operating Agreement) with the competing paper is in place. And if you think that any of those wonderful American companies, out of some free-enterprise belief in competing for the best talent, are going to do anything about that, sorry, most of them received generous subsidies, in return, I'm sure, for an understanding about the labor markets here. > >BTW, if we ever actually *had* free markets in this country, >*including* the abolition of redistributive income and death taxes, >all those smart people in the Forbes 400 would have *more* money, and >there would be *more* self-made people on that list. In addition, >most of the people who *inherited* money on the list would have >*much* less of it, not even relatively speaking. Finally, practically >all of that "new" money would have come from economic efficiency and >not "stolen" from someone else, investment bubbles or not. > >That efficiency is called "progress", for those of you in The >People's Republics of Berkeley or Cambridge. It means more and better >stuff, cheaper, over time -- a terrible, petit-bourgeois concept >apparently not worthy of teaching by the educational elite, or you'd >know about it by now. In economic terms, it's also called an increase >in general welfare, and, no, Virginia, I'm not talking about >extorting money from someone who works, and giving it to someone who >doesn't in order to keep them from working and they can think of some >politician as Santa Claus come election time... > > Much as I like to accept what you say - I do believe in free markets , I have difficulty finding any - except of course for labor markets, which governments go to great lengths to protect (well unless the supply is tight) It was a great run with the technology industry - producing most of the self-made billionaires on the list, but now we've got a government-sponsored monopoly, and the concept of "more stuff, cheaper" which it has always promised - seems to be disappearing. A particularly galling example is high-speed internet access. An article I read a couple of years ago that it is an area where the pricing approaches of the IT industry (cheaper, better or you die) and the telecom industry (maintain your monopoly through regulation, and get guaranteed price increases through the same regulators) meet. Sadly to say, the telecom industry seems to have won. The whole entertainment industry/RIAA/Palladium thing seems to be another instance where actually giving value to the customer seems less important than using regulation to reduce competition and substitute products in order to produce profits for the favored few. > >In short, then, economics is not a zero sum game, property is not >theft, the rich don't get rich off the backs of the poor, and >redistributionist labor "theory" of value happy horseshit is just >that: horseshit, happy or otherwise. > >To believe otherwise, is -- quite literally, given the time Marx >wrote Capital and the Manifesto -- romantic nonsense. > > I usually agree - but when there's a Republican in office - I feel like they're the biggest believers in the Manifesto, in reverse. Create a reserve pool of labor, reduce the rights of that "proletariat" you've just created with bogus "law and order" policies , concentrate capital in the hands of a few (ideally people who can get you reelected) and the economy will take care of itself. Oh, and lie - use the word "compassionate" a lot. I guess I tend to believe that a certain amount of poverty reduction actually helps a modern capitalist state - the basic economic tenet of the Republic party seems to be the more homeless under each overpass, the more efficient the rest of us will be. And the facts are, for most people in the Western world are declining standards of living, declining benefits, disappearing social safety net, greater working hours, essentially since the entrance of women into the work force (not blaming women in any way, they have a right to work but its now 2 wage-earners in each family and still declining standards of living) is the reality. Again to quote that wonderfully liberal document I keep coming back to - the CIA world factbook - on the US economy: "Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households" Owen
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History I provided a brief history of the writing tradition, but could not get the whole text to show up on the page (as I'm not familiar enough with Wikipedia editing). If anyone can fix this, or add more details to this short history it would be appreciated.
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" :Serial isn't ""serial"" by number but by continuation. ""Mass Murder"" means a lot at one time. She technically would fall under both, but since there isn't a limit/requirement to how many have to die in order to be ""serial"", the fact that he continuously kills withouth being caught supercedes the ""mass"". "
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User:Robintetley User seems to have realized he needs to discuss more and has imo expressed understanding of why he was blocked and that he won't repeat the behavior. So I said I would nudge an admin about possible early unblocking. I had the chance to point a few of the exact issues out and he has commented on his talkpage in an understanding way. User talk:Robintetley - I will leave it with you as to what to do as he hasn't actually made a new unblock request, thanks -
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" The Montreal-Ottawa trains end/start at the ""new"" station in east end Ottawa (just east of the Rideau Canal). It is the station that replaced the original one in downtown Ottawa near the parliament buildings. See Ottawa Station. The Fallowfield has nothing to do with VIA's Montreal-Ottawa runs. Likewise all Montreal-Toronto runs start/end at Union Station in downtown Toronto. Aldershot is beyond Toronto. "
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possible rtp conference dear mr . kaminski : thank you for talking with me about a possible rtp conference . i would like to include some discussions of what has been learned in other industries . as i indicated , frank wolak suggested that i contact you . in discussing power markets with frank and other colleagues at stanford and epri , it seems quite evident that real - time pricing for retail customers is the " forgotten resource " in more efficient power markets . there seems to be a lot of confusion about what rtp means and it also seems that many researchers need to address some practical but important problems . i was asked whether a group like stanford ' s emf might explore this topic and give it the visibility that would have it considered more seriously by policymakers . frank thought that you might be someone who could help me structure a useful approach and who might also see whether enron could become a major sponsor . i was hoping that this issue was sufficiently important to enron that the company might consider providing $ 25 , 000 . as you may appreciate , it requires some thought and effort to make sure that the product of the conference is widely circulated among key government groups . i would be very interested in hearing from you if you can provide ideas and recommendations for people ( perhaps yourself or a colleague ) to participate . i would also appreciate any consideration by enron of providing funding for this effort . thank you , hill huntington - retail notes . rtf hillard g . huntington emf - an international forum on energy and environmental markets voice : ( 650 ) 723 - 1050 408 terman center fax : ( 650 ) 725 - 5362 stanford university email : hillh @ stanford . edu stanford , ca 94305 - 4026 emf website : http : / / www . stanford . edu / group / emf /
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Sorry I logged off last nite.. Yeah tings going on a full circle, I have had an offer of a disk of Ubuntu whcih is inspired by Ubuntu. Dunno if I should make the leap and use that. Apart from that I ha been exploring religion that mix Catholicism and Africa and end up wid Yoruba - U into this kindof thing no? P -
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Again, a personal assertion with no reliable sources backing it up. Would it help maybe if I gave you examples of reliable sources that question the DH?
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North Korea's really stepping up their female soldier's weapons competency, I see.
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There is not a strict requirement that the student be a US citizen in order to be eligible for the National Merit Scholarship Competition. That should be fixed, as it is currently incorrect.
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Decision for climate change deniers cat Are you absolutely confident that you had sufficient consensus to close as delete rather than no consensus? I do not think consensus favoured the decision you took.
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REDIRECT Talk:Telus World of Science (Calgary)
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Vindictive My sense of honor is wounded by your spiteful regard. Let's us hope for comity to return.
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Unfortunately, you really don't seem to be grasping what edit warring actually is. I suggest you read the article and description on WP's article on edit warring to get a clear picture of what it is and what it isn't. Editing an article 27 times over the period of a couple of days is not edit warring. It's just editing. Continually reverting and leaving unproductive remarks in the edit summary is edit warring. Of the two examples I just gave, you have been doing the latter - ergo, you have been edit warring. And please - stop commenting on editors, and keep your comments focused on edits and content. Commenting on editors is not productive, commenting on content and edits is.
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george washington wore a hat
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" I was archiving, honest. ;-) For general note I've posted a short message to the proper talk page. אמר (/AMA) "
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" == ""Typographer"" versus ""artist"" == I appreciate that you may prefer to describe yourself exclusively as a ""typographer"", but at least one of the sources describes you as an ""artist"", which seems - to my ignorant eye anyhow - to capture a bit better what you actually do. The average reader will find that description more useful, I think; and it has a source, so I'd ask that you leave it as it is. Thanks. "
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Ah! The hypocrisy is absolutely amazing. Just so your wondering Bozo, I didn't even care about the Redboy article in itself. I cared about Schuminwebs unbelievable callousness, lack of good faith and down right rudeness in dealing with me. He says on his userpage that he is an inclusionist, yet he does this. The article at the time had a hangon tag - he deleted it before even giving me a chance to type into the talk page my defense of the article. His problem is a very vague understanding of notability. Redboy has an oceon of literature surrounding it, it has even been linked to the childhood bogeyman. However, I didn't get a chance to defend this aspect in the article, because he deleted it before I got the chance, and then had the cheek to accuse me of vandalism! What has happened since is that he has ignored every compaint I brought to him. So, I decided to focus on his round exterior. And please Schumin, keep this comment here. People deserve to know the truth. You have been slandering me like you have above for too long. 86.45.196.119
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" Haiduc, the sentence doesn't day ""most"", it says ""many"" — a fact which is well established in the article. I'm sure you remember the discussion we had on this issue a douple of weeks ago. However, I don't oppose the removal of the word ""many"" if it bothers you. ntennis "
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" Please do not vandalize pages, as you did with this edit to Hash Bash. If you continue to do so, you will be blocked from editing. talk "
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" I was looking at the US Airways 2006 annual report (it's 10-K form) and the lengthy company description lists Las Vegas as a secondary hub (like Pittsburgh), not a primary hub. The link for the annual report is http://library.corporate-ir.net/library/19/196/196799/items/192379/Annual%20Report%202005.pdf and the appropriate quote is found on page 20 of the .pdf file. The quote is ""The Company has primary hubs in Charlotte, Philadelphia and Phoenix and secondary hubs/focus cities in Pittsburgh, Las Vegas, New York, Washington, D.C. and Boston."" I made this change on the article page."
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King of Kvenland Only a Swede would try to insert Charles IX in an article about the Kings of Kvenland. I'll forgive you your nationalistic aspirations, but you must realize that Charles IX had nothing whatsoever to do with the ancient Kvenland. Do you realize that?
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" :::I'm playing devil's advocate here, but ""tracing the lineage"" is simply following through the arrow links on the pedigree. Wouldn't this constitute the same degree of ""original research"" as clicking through to the next page of a pages-long article, simply to ""find"" the information for any given article? I went through several lines of the pedigree to where I reached triple digit years (AD 600+) and came across princes and other royalty. It was rather astounding; I simply don't know enough about the site to know how those names are accurately connected and who worked on the pedigree's creation. – Kerαunoςcopia◁ "
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== customers == A list of customers (both countries and organizations) should be added to give more credibility.-
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Images Maybe usefull image.
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Pretty much everybody involved in this talk page discussion has already stated that they're not paid for editing Wikipedia in general and aspartame related articles in particular, so kindly stop suggesting they are. Besides, King Öomie is right: Correlation does not imply causation.
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on the spot. Actually, I am just going to go ahead and report you now as I really don't have the patience for the games
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