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arg4165 | -1 | 10 | This falls into the category of "how many suspicious things must be revealed before the mounting questions tip the balance away from the official story?" By the official story I mean the explanation profferred by a government or other overarching body, and it always holds much more sway with the general public. But whe... | 1,210,676,441,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 5 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,302 | 0 | |||
arg6264 | -1 | 29 | The Gov't lied to the US to get them into WWI, WWII, Vietnam as well as the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. With Iraq/Afghanistan being the most recent, how did the US get its people to agree to such a thing? 9/11...that's how. For those who haven't seen the movie Zeitgeist, watch these clips to see how the gov't lied and... | 1,211,110,278,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 5 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 345 | 0 | |||
arg7771 | -1 | 8 | It was an inside job for no other reason other than 20 floors of a building cannot destroy and pulverize 80 floors. Just think about that for one moment. If you turn the building on its side and smashed 20 floors against 80, which side would win?? Well i hate to be the bearer of bad news, but gravity ain't that strong.... | 1,212,001,185,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 4 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,153 | 0 | |||
arg8437 | 7,771 | 3 | Your 'science' argument fails to factor in the difference between live and dead loads, and inertia.20 floors may not be able to collapse 80, but they didn't need to. All they needed to collapse was the floor beneath them. Then those 21 floors, now with some inertia building up, smash the next one. And so on, and so on.... | 1,212,523,260,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 1 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 467 | It was an inside job for no other reason other than 20 floors of a building cannot destroy and pulverize 80 floors. Just think about that for one moment. If you turn the building on its side and smashed 20 floors against 80, which side would win?? Well i hate to be the bearer of bad news, but gravity ain't that strong.... | 1 | |
arg8934 | 8,437 | 217 | I think the greatest scientific argument that can be made is that jet fuel cannot burn anywhere near the temperatures needed to compromise a steel structure of such integrity. That is why oxyacetylene and oxyacetylyne torches are used to weld steel. They burn at much higher temperatures. Furthermore, if we take the arg... | 1,212,738,373,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 1 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 744 | It was an inside job for no other reason other than 20 floors of a building cannot destroy and pulverize 80 floors. Just think about that for one moment. If you turn the building on its side and smashed 20 floors against 80, which side would win?? Well i hate to be the bearer of bad news, but gravity ain't that strong.... | 2 | |
arg9098 | 8,437 | 40 | KKitching's argument is pseudoscientific rubbish.All three collapses progressed at very close to free fall speed. That means there was no gathering pile-driver and no smashing into floors- that would cause the block of floors above to slow well beneath free fall speed.And it is VERY clear, visibly clear in the video of... | 1,212,853,290,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 0 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 908 | It was an inside job for no other reason other than 20 floors of a building cannot destroy and pulverize 80 floors. Just think about that for one moment. If you turn the building on its side and smashed 20 floors against 80, which side would win?? Well i hate to be the bearer of bad news, but gravity ain't that strong.... | 2 | |
arg8459 | -1 | 281 | Both chairs of the 9/11 commission have stated publicly that the Kean Commission was inadequate and even interfered with.The evidence is legion. Scientist from across the spectrum are coming together on this and Dr. Stephen Jones has now proven that a derivative a thermite was found in debris and dust from the incident... | 1,212,527,057,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 4 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 799 | 0 | |||
arg3731 | -1 | 101 | Where to begin? A lot of people I have spoken to have trouble getting past the sheer madness of it. They never get to examining the actual facts of that day because, how could our government do that to it's own people? And what would they have to gain?Is government complicity in 9/11 a crazy notion? Yes. But no crazier... | 1,210,326,565,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 2 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 821 | 0 | |||
arg6157 | 3,731 | 72 | You mention Operation Northwoods. What has a declassified Cold War-era document, with no planned fatalities, have to do with a peacetime plan to evoke a war with casualties ranging from 2,000-30,000 at peak WTC hours?Why is it so hard for people to see things the way they are now? A man with a $15 air rifle in a book d... | 1,211,059,473,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 2 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,469 | Where to begin? A lot of people I have spoken to have trouble getting past the sheer madness of it. They never get to examining the actual facts of that day because, how could our government do that to it's own people? And what would they have to gain?Is government complicity in 9/11 a crazy notion? Yes. But no crazier... | 1 | |
arg4044 | 3,731 | 40 | Right conclusion for the wrong reasons. A very bad place to begin.9/11 was an inside job because the manner of the collapses forensically prove it to be so using only basic newtonian physics. | 1,210,663,508,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 0 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 191 | Where to begin? A lot of people I have spoken to have trouble getting past the sheer madness of it. They never get to examining the actual facts of that day because, how could our government do that to it's own people? And what would they have to gain?Is government complicity in 9/11 a crazy notion? Yes. But no crazier... | 1 | |
arg10551 | 4,044 | 738 | It doesn't prove it. There could be perfectly reasonable, scientific explanations why the buildings fell - I just don't think there's enough evidence either way to prove the causes beyond a doubt. I think considering the events without adequate evidence will bear no fruit. Instead, we should focus on the concrete facts... | 1,214,279,393,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 0 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 832 | Where to begin? A lot of people I have spoken to have trouble getting past the sheer madness of it. They never get to examining the actual facts of that day because, how could our government do that to it's own people? And what would they have to gain?Is government complicity in 9/11 a crazy notion? Yes. But no crazier... | 2 | |
arg10564 | 10,551 | 40 | "It doesn't prove it."Yes it does. You clearly don't know what constitutes proof."There could be perfectly reasonable, scientific explanations why the buildings fell - I just don't think there's enough evidence either way to prove the causes beyond a doubt."Thats either because you are ignorant of the evidence or ignor... | 1,214,288,869,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -1 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,674 | Where to begin? A lot of people I have spoken to have trouble getting past the sheer madness of it. They never get to examining the actual facts of that day because, how could our government do that to it's own people? And what would they have to gain?Is government complicity in 9/11 a crazy notion? Yes. But no crazier... | 3 | |
arg10568 | 10,564 | 738 | "Near free fall speed"Yes, it wasn't free fall."can only occur where the resistance from the steel structure is removed by explosives."That's a 'creationism' style argument from ignorance. "I can't think of any way therefore it's xyz.""google William Rodriguez"Yes, because his account is completely reliable and accurat... | 1,214,289,931,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 0 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 793 | Where to begin? A lot of people I have spoken to have trouble getting past the sheer madness of it. They never get to examining the actual facts of that day because, how could our government do that to it's own people? And what would they have to gain?Is government complicity in 9/11 a crazy notion? Yes. But no crazier... | 4 | |
arg10579 | 10,568 | 40 | "Near free fall speed"Yes, it wasn't free fall.Of course it wasn't PRECISELY free fall speed. Close enough to require explosives, though."can only occur where the resistance from the steel structure is removed by explosives."-argument from ignorance- "I can't think of any way therefore it's xyz."No. To eliminate the re... | 1,214,291,787,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 0 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 2,694 | Where to begin? A lot of people I have spoken to have trouble getting past the sheer madness of it. They never get to examining the actual facts of that day because, how could our government do that to it's own people? And what would they have to gain?Is government complicity in 9/11 a crazy notion? Yes. But no crazier... | 5 | |
arg3732 | 3,731 | 645 | Conspiracy theories like this are always concocted to discredit political opponents. I don't lend any credence to this sort of thing. I'm not even sure why I took the time to post anything. | 1,210,327,343,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | -4 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 189 | Where to begin? A lot of people I have spoken to have trouble getting past the sheer madness of it. They never get to examining the actual facts of that day because, how could our government do that to it's own people? And what would they have to gain?Is government complicity in 9/11 a crazy notion? Yes. But no crazier... | 1 | |
arg3738 | 3,732 | 101 | Read the declassified Northwoods documents I linked to - They are actual plans to wage psychological warfare on the American people. They are a black & white refutation of your statement. Maybe I should have cited the Gulf of Tonkin lie that got us into Vietnam. Doesn't quite have the parallelism of Northwoods, but sti... | 1,210,332,405,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -1 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 332 | Where to begin? A lot of people I have spoken to have trouble getting past the sheer madness of it. They never get to examining the actual facts of that day because, how could our government do that to it's own people? And what would they have to gain?Is government complicity in 9/11 a crazy notion? Yes. But no crazier... | 2 | |
arg3759 | 3,738 | 645 | Let me point out that there is a huge difference between orchestrating an apparent attack on destroyers already deployed to a foreign land and demolishing a building that in many respects symbolized Americas economic dominance, actually killing American citizens and attacking our own military command; finally attemptin... | 1,210,365,026,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 2 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 537 | Where to begin? A lot of people I have spoken to have trouble getting past the sheer madness of it. They never get to examining the actual facts of that day because, how could our government do that to it's own people? And what would they have to gain?Is government complicity in 9/11 a crazy notion? Yes. But no crazier... | 3 | |
arg3763 | 3,759 | 101 | Well, I posted a link to the Northwoods papers which are massively relevant to the 9/11 conspiracy angle...Anywho, you're saying the Gulf of Tonkin LIE is not relevant to the 9/11 conspiracy angle? Well, I fail to see how it is not.Pres. Johnson wanted to rally support for a war in Vietnam. But like always, the America... | 1,210,368,482,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 3 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 3,255 | Where to begin? A lot of people I have spoken to have trouble getting past the sheer madness of it. They never get to examining the actual facts of that day because, how could our government do that to it's own people? And what would they have to gain?Is government complicity in 9/11 a crazy notion? Yes. But no crazier... | 4 | |
arg3879 | 3,763 | 914 | You have a really good point here and I'm in noway inclined to defend Bush (or Johnson) but I still think that you haven't made the full case on how 9/11 would directly resulted in the Iraq War. It seems like 9/11 was a better case for invading Afghanistan. If the true goal was to invade Iraq, don't you think the gover... | 1,210,622,086,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 1 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 389 | Where to begin? A lot of people I have spoken to have trouble getting past the sheer madness of it. They never get to examining the actual facts of that day because, how could our government do that to it's own people? And what would they have to gain?Is government complicity in 9/11 a crazy notion? Yes. But no crazier... | 5 | |
arg4152 | 3,879 | 101 | 1. blame the terrorists2. fight the terrorists in afghanistan3. then fight the terrorists in iraq4. possibly fight the terrorists in iran...?5. ...yeah. pretty much anywhere there are terrorists we can start a war (says bush) except maybe saudi arabia and pakistan, because they play ball.A war on terror has no end and ... | 1,210,675,233,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 2 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 331 | Where to begin? A lot of people I have spoken to have trouble getting past the sheer madness of it. They never get to examining the actual facts of that day because, how could our government do that to it's own people? And what would they have to gain?Is government complicity in 9/11 a crazy notion? Yes. But no crazier... | 6 | |
arg3740 | 3,732 | 228 | I agree, agree, agree!! | 1,210,336,124,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | -1 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 23 | Where to begin? A lot of people I have spoken to have trouble getting past the sheer madness of it. They never get to examining the actual facts of that day because, how could our government do that to it's own people? And what would they have to gain?Is government complicity in 9/11 a crazy notion? Yes. But no crazier... | 2 | ||
arg4521 | 3,732 | 40 | OMG retard. Utterly vacuous argument. | 1,210,710,947,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -6 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 37 | Where to begin? A lot of people I have spoken to have trouble getting past the sheer madness of it. They never get to examining the actual facts of that day because, how could our government do that to it's own people? And what would they have to gain?Is government complicity in 9/11 a crazy notion? Yes. But no crazier... | 2 | |
arg4525 | 4,521 | 40 | asserting that conspiracy theories are ALWAYS made up to discredit political opponents ALSO means the conspiracy theory alleging 19 arabs did it was made up to discredit them. Its a totally retarded statement that forces the conclusion of the debate to rely on a throy involving just one man as the perpetrator of the cr... | 1,210,711,829,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | -2 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 423 | Where to begin? A lot of people I have spoken to have trouble getting past the sheer madness of it. They never get to examining the actual facts of that day because, how could our government do that to it's own people? And what would they have to gain?Is government complicity in 9/11 a crazy notion? Yes. But no crazier... | 3 | ||
arg4523 | 3,732 | 40 | 123ddddddddddddd | 1,210,711,091,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -6 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 16 | Where to begin? A lot of people I have spoken to have trouble getting past the sheer madness of it. They never get to examining the actual facts of that day because, how could our government do that to it's own people? And what would they have to gain?Is government complicity in 9/11 a crazy notion? Yes. But no crazier... | 2 | |
arg4526 | 4,523 | 40 | This was a test post. How do I get rid of it ? | 1,210,711,905,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 0 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 46 | Where to begin? A lot of people I have spoken to have trouble getting past the sheer madness of it. They never get to examining the actual facts of that day because, how could our government do that to it's own people? And what would they have to gain?Is government complicity in 9/11 a crazy notion? Yes. But no crazier... | 3 | ||
arg4188 | -1 | 35 | was there a reason to invade Iraq? A reason to invade Afghanistan? A reason to go into Vietnam? I mean, real, valid, sensible reasons. No. Is there a reason to think that 9/11 was orchestrated by the Gov? Yes, since in all other decisions regarding national security and belligerent action the US government has acted ir... | 1,210,678,742,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 2 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 497 | 0 | |||
arg4479 | -1 | 1,431 | If it wasn't done by us, we had something to do with it. (More than just our "freedom".) | 1,210,703,299,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 2 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 88 | 0 | |||
arg7797 | -1 | 738 | We can start from a few uncontroversial facts: - It was a conspiracy - 3 steel framed buildings with all floors remaining collapsed - America has many enemies - The global competition for oil is ballooning - The perceived anti-Western population of Muslims are concentrated in oil-rich regions of the Middle East - The e... | 1,212,029,199,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 2 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 977 | 0 | |||
arg11061 | -1 | 3 | The proof is just insurmountable. I really didn't want to believe it, but emotion gives way to logic, and I can't honestly see it as anything but an inside job. | 1,214,848,634,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 2 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 160 | 0 | |||
arg11077 | 11,061 | 40 | False hope is NEVER desireable. Fear of betrayal at the hands of your freinds should ALWAYS drive to you want to determine their trustworthiness conclusively, and override any and every other emtoion involved. In this case those who dont bother will accept the government story. Some cowards are so scared of government ... | 1,214,887,713,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -1 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 560 | The proof is just insurmountable. I really didn't want to believe it, but emotion gives way to logic, and I can't honestly see it as anything but an inside job.||| | 1 | ||
arg4162 | -1 | 10 | How it was (most probably) done:1. Don't build the buildings properly in the first place (X-beams left out due to rushing).2. Get some R/C planes.3. While before, fill the buildings with thermite & igniters so when ignited in time they cause the structure to fall in on itself to minimize outside damage.4. Drop the air-... | 1,210,676,145,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 1 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 537 | 0 | |||
arg8844 | -1 | 498 | I'd just like someone to show me where to buy one of those planes with impervious steel & concrete-slicing wings, and a nose which can puncture an entire building and come out the other side in tact, and which disintegrates completely post-impact. | 1,212,676,371,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 1 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 247 | 0 | |||
arg8847 | 8,844 | 738 | Office of Public AffairsCGI DepartmentCentral Intelligence AgencyWashington, D.C. 20505 | 1,212,677,601,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 3 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 87 | I'd just like someone to show me where to buy one of those planes with impervious steel & concrete-slicing wings, and a nose which can puncture an entire building and come out the other side in tact, and which disintegrates completely post-impact.||| | 1 | ||
arg13879 | -1 | 40,163 | Here's some support for the conspiracy theory.http://tinyurl.com/9kmqahttp://tinyurl.com/pyug2 | 1,217,681,298,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 1 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 94 | 0 | |||
arg3794 | -1 | 101 | The 9/11 commission omits the presence of molten steel from their official report. It took weeks for rescue workers to water-cool the glowing steel beneath the wreckage at ground zero. It was clearly and prominently visible in a thermal image taken by a USGS satellite on September 16--five days later.In the video, one ... | 1,210,424,705,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 0 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 590 | 0 | |||
arg3870 | 3,794 | 660 | How does the lack of molten steel in the commission report indicate that the government planned 9/11? This wasn't an ordinary "office fire" as you state in your argument. It's well documented that jets ran in to the Twin Towers with full tanks of jet fuel. From the NIST website, "Based on this comprehensive investigati... | 1,210,618,713,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 4 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,036 | The 9/11 commission omits the presence of molten steel from their official report. It took weeks for rescue workers to water-cool the glowing steel beneath the wreckage at ground zero. It was clearly and prominently visible in a thermal image taken by a USGS satellite on September 16--five days later.In the video, one ... | 1 | |
arg4204 | 3,870 | 35 | How can two towers, hit by two different planes, at two different impact altitudes and with different speed, with different fuel loads can create exactly the same type of damage to identical towers?If you wish to refute the identical towers claim, then how can the two towers differ in such a way, that their physical di... | 1,210,679,861,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 3 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,211 | The 9/11 commission omits the presence of molten steel from their official report. It took weeks for rescue workers to water-cool the glowing steel beneath the wreckage at ground zero. It was clearly and prominently visible in a thermal image taken by a USGS satellite on September 16--five days later.In the video, one ... | 2 | |
arg4561 | 4,204 | 12 | You're talking about 2 planes, flying at hundreds of miles an hour, filled with jet fuel, with enormous amounts of mass, colliding with fixed steel structures. Imagine 200 tons of steel and jet fuel crashing into structures. If you take a Hummer and a Volkswagen and have one travel at 50mph and the other at 100mph and ... | 1,210,717,825,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 0 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 392 | The 9/11 commission omits the presence of molten steel from their official report. It took weeks for rescue workers to water-cool the glowing steel beneath the wreckage at ground zero. It was clearly and prominently visible in a thermal image taken by a USGS satellite on September 16--five days later.In the video, one ... | 3 | |
arg4587 | 4,561 | 35 | Done for for sure, but bent, not collapsed in its base. | 1,210,720,668,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 2 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 55 | The 9/11 commission omits the presence of molten steel from their official report. It took weeks for rescue workers to water-cool the glowing steel beneath the wreckage at ground zero. It was clearly and prominently visible in a thermal image taken by a USGS satellite on September 16--five days later.In the video, one ... | 4 | |
arg3877 | 3,870 | 101 | The lack of molten steel in the report indicates one thing: The working hypothesis is insufficient. 9/11 was a historic and tragic event. It has radically altered the political discourse and shaped America's foreign and domestic policy for the last 6-7 years. Don't you think our government should be interested in a ful... | 1,210,620,531,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 1 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,333 | The 9/11 commission omits the presence of molten steel from their official report. It took weeks for rescue workers to water-cool the glowing steel beneath the wreckage at ground zero. It was clearly and prominently visible in a thermal image taken by a USGS satellite on September 16--five days later.In the video, one ... | 2 | |
arg4911 | 3,877 | 31 | I don't believe that the collapse of the 9/11 towers warrant as much investigation as the challenger disaster. There was a very evident cause of failure and there are few within the engineering community who doubt it.Prof. Thomas Eager of the material sciences depart of MIT reaches the same conclusion as the NIST, even... | 1,210,810,920,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 0 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 629 | The 9/11 commission omits the presence of molten steel from their official report. It took weeks for rescue workers to water-cool the glowing steel beneath the wreckage at ground zero. It was clearly and prominently visible in a thermal image taken by a USGS satellite on September 16--five days later.In the video, one ... | 3 | |
arg5175 | 4,911 | 101 | Someone posted a URL elsewhere in this debate: http://www.ae911truth.org/I suggest you take a look. 381 architects and engineers have risked their professional reputation to ask for a new investigation. What do they have to gain? Nothing - but they have a lot to lose: professional credibility, maybe a promotion, possib... | 1,210,877,646,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 2 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,024 | The 9/11 commission omits the presence of molten steel from their official report. It took weeks for rescue workers to water-cool the glowing steel beneath the wreckage at ground zero. It was clearly and prominently visible in a thermal image taken by a USGS satellite on September 16--five days later.In the video, one ... | 4 | |
arg3806 | 3,794 | 77 | The 9/11 commission omits the presence of molten steel from their official report.The 9/11 commission omitted it because...??? What is this deep dark secret they don't want the American public to know?Which, according to you is easily figured out anyway."We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay...OMG. Couple of C... | 1,210,465,448,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -4 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 590 | The 9/11 commission omits the presence of molten steel from their official report. It took weeks for rescue workers to water-cool the glowing steel beneath the wreckage at ground zero. It was clearly and prominently visible in a thermal image taken by a USGS satellite on September 16--five days later.In the video, one ... | 1 | |
arg4232 | 3,806 | 35 | The thing about the CIA brainstorming:If they came up with that idea, means that it some cases it's a valid idea, and it means that in some cases it has been the accepted procedure. | 1,210,682,317,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 7 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 181 | The 9/11 commission omits the presence of molten steel from their official report. It took weeks for rescue workers to water-cool the glowing steel beneath the wreckage at ground zero. It was clearly and prominently visible in a thermal image taken by a USGS satellite on September 16--five days later.In the video, one ... | 2 | |
arg4721 | 3,794 | 40,163 | So it wasn't an inside job. The towers collapsed due to the intense heat generated by the burning fuel and office fires. | 1,210,767,114,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | -4 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 120 | The 9/11 commission omits the presence of molten steel from their official report. It took weeks for rescue workers to water-cool the glowing steel beneath the wreckage at ground zero. It was clearly and prominently visible in a thermal image taken by a USGS satellite on September 16--five days later.In the video, one ... | 1 | ||
arg4737 | 4,721 | 40 | Burning jet fuel doesn't generate intense heat. Its flame point isn't even close to that required to melt steel, and melted steel IS required for the free fall collapse of the THREE towers:- anything less means that plastically deforming steel retains some resistance to the collapse, making free fall impossible. | 1,210,769,863,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 0 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 313 | The 9/11 commission omits the presence of molten steel from their official report. It took weeks for rescue workers to water-cool the glowing steel beneath the wreckage at ground zero. It was clearly and prominently visible in a thermal image taken by a USGS satellite on September 16--five days later.In the video, one ... | 2 | |
arg5841 | -1 | 101 | Since many of you are familiar with the NIST report and freely refer to it, consider this editorial written by Kevin Ryan. Mr. Ryan worked at Underwriters Laboratories (UL) -- the company that tested (and disproved) the pancake theory. The progressive collapse theory, which NIST fabricated later, was based on a distort... | 1,210,998,345,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 0 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 456 | 0 | |||
arg14641 | -1 | 6 | WTC 7 has always been the big problem for me. WTCs 4, 5, and 6 all sustained heavy damage due to falling debris from WTC 1 and 2, however those structures are still standing. WTC7 showed minimal damage with a couple of small fires and fell into its own footprint.The other thing that bothers me, is why was the debris fr... | 1,218,565,997,000,000,000 | Government Inside Job | 0 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 513 | 0 | |||
arg4052 | -1 | 51 | This is probably the most wanted to know question in the world. Until "PROOF" comes about its speculation...and in the USA speculation has no grounds but i think we all know someone had a hand in it... even with out proof im saying yah.NEXT! | 1,210,664,221,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -1 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 241 | 0 | |||
arg4068 | 4,052 | 40 | proof is already present.:ae911truth.org | 1,210,666,085,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 0 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 40 | This is probably the most wanted to know question in the world. Until "PROOF" comes about its speculation...and in the USA speculation has no grounds but i think we all know someone had a hand in it... even with out proof im saying yah.NEXT!||| | 1 | |
arg4103 | 4,068 | 46 | here is some "proof" that counters many of the non-free fall conspiracy theories. | 1,210,672,205,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 1 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 81 | This is probably the most wanted to know question in the world. Until "PROOF" comes about its speculation...and in the USA speculation has no grounds but i think we all know someone had a hand in it... even with out proof im saying yah.NEXT!|||proof is already present.:ae911truth.org||| | 2 | |
arg4790 | 4,103 | 101 | That source you linked to says that the columns fell faster than the surrounding floors: consistent with controlled demolition. In attempting to refute the collapse speed, he actually reinforces the controlled demolition theory. Regardless, no one says it fell at exactly free-fall speed. It fell at "near" free-fall spe... | 1,210,782,469,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 2 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 706 | This is probably the most wanted to know question in the world. Until "PROOF" comes about its speculation...and in the USA speculation has no grounds but i think we all know someone had a hand in it... even with out proof im saying yah.NEXT!|||proof is already present.:ae911truth.org|||here is some "proof" that counter... | 3 | |
arg4709 | 4,103 | 40 | Explosives make objects accelerate FASTER than free-fall acceleration."In every photo and every video, you can see columns far outpacing the collapse of the building. Not only are the columns falling faster than the building but they are also falling faster than the debris cloud which is ALSO falling faster than the bu... | 1,210,765,084,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 0 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 449 | This is probably the most wanted to know question in the world. Until "PROOF" comes about its speculation...and in the USA speculation has no grounds but i think we all know someone had a hand in it... even with out proof im saying yah.NEXT!|||proof is already present.:ae911truth.org|||here is some "proof" that counter... | 3 | |
arg4112 | 4,103 | 471 | Those conspiracy theories are absurd, every one of them can be proven incorrect and invalid. | 1,210,672,901,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | -1 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 92 | This is probably the most wanted to know question in the world. Until "PROOF" comes about its speculation...and in the USA speculation has no grounds but i think we all know someone had a hand in it... even with out proof im saying yah.NEXT!|||proof is already present.:ae911truth.org|||here is some "proof" that counter... | 3 | ||
arg4524 | 4,103 | 40 | Does not, and can not Explain how the entire steel frame of world trade centres 1 2 and 7 collapsed at free fall speed.The section on free fall speed begins with the false assertion that other parts of the building falling faster than the building itself are proof that the building itself collapsed slower than free fal... | 1,210,711,300,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -1 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 716 | This is probably the most wanted to know question in the world. Until "PROOF" comes about its speculation...and in the USA speculation has no grounds but i think we all know someone had a hand in it... even with out proof im saying yah.NEXT!|||proof is already present.:ae911truth.org|||here is some "proof" that counter... | 3 | |
arg11462 | -1 | 46 | come on didn't you see all the stuff that happened. the twin towers couldn't have just fallen because of two planes i mean the structure of the buliding could have handled that damage without the collapse and the way it collapsed was also suspicious i mean a building doesn't just fall like a pancake it just doesn't hap... | 1,215,415,649,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -1 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 767 | 0 | |||
arg16241 | 11,462 | 1,132 | Even if the structures of the towers may not have failed due to the impact of the aircraft, they were both transcontinental flights. That means that even with the takeoff and travel to New York City, they still would have had a nearly full load of jet fuel. The fire caused by the fuel could have weakened the structure ... | 1,219,969,306,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 1 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 829 | come on didn't you see all the stuff that happened. the twin towers couldn't have just fallen because of two planes i mean the structure of the buliding could have handled that damage without the collapse and the way it collapsed was also suspicious i mean a building doesn't just fall like a pancake it just doesn't hap... | 1 | |
arg16270 | 16,241 | 40 | Why are you ignoring the eyewitness statements testifying to explosions in the basement before the plane impacts and in WTC7 far in advance of the tower collapse? Why are you ignoring the molten steel? Why are you ignoring the free fall speeds, which points to not just weakness but elimination of ALL resistance?"The fi... | 1,220,011,801,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -2 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,897 | come on didn't you see all the stuff that happened. the twin towers couldn't have just fallen because of two planes i mean the structure of the buliding could have handled that damage without the collapse and the way it collapsed was also suspicious i mean a building doesn't just fall like a pancake it just doesn't hap... | 2 | |
arg11545 | 11,462 | 40 | I agree with this arguer, even though he doesn't provide any evidence. It IS obviously an inside job, but many Americans want to cling to their notion that the US government actually cares for them, so you have to proovide forensic proofs. Even then some still deny it. | 1,215,511,604,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -1 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 269 | come on didn't you see all the stuff that happened. the twin towers couldn't have just fallen because of two planes i mean the structure of the buliding could have handled that damage without the collapse and the way it collapsed was also suspicious i mean a building doesn't just fall like a pancake it just doesn't hap... | 1 | ||
arg11877 | 11,545 | 325 | *she =)Check people's profiles before using gender-specific pronouns. :P | 1,216,055,531,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 3 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 72 | come on didn't you see all the stuff that happened. the twin towers couldn't have just fallen because of two planes i mean the structure of the buliding could have handled that damage without the collapse and the way it collapsed was also suspicious i mean a building doesn't just fall like a pancake it just doesn't hap... | 2 | ||
arg4712 | -1 | 40 | Here is the necessary proof : video presentations by ae911truth.org, which has the support of 380 architects and engineers.911blogger.com/node/10025and 911blogger.com/node/14020 | 1,210,765,572,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -2 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 177 | 0 | |||
arg3811 | -1 | 101 | We've seen the footage of the WTC Towers collapsing straight down, into their own footprint, at nearly free-fall speed, so many times that it can start to look "normal" somehow.Nevertheless, it is not normal. Buildings don't collapse straight down, into their own footprint, at nearly free-fall speed--at least, not with... | 1,210,481,128,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -3 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 883 | 0 | |||
arg4863 | 3,811 | 31 | This is a video of 5 story concrete building. In no way do I see how this is relevant to a 110 glass and steel building.Find the society of structural engineer's, or of civil engineer's or even of architects who support the notion that it was a planned demolition. | 1,210,800,501,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 4 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 264 | We've seen the footage of the WTC Towers collapsing straight down, into their own footprint, at nearly free-fall speed, so many times that it can start to look "normal" somehow.Nevertheless, it is not normal. Buildings don't collapse straight down, into their own footprint, at nearly free-fall speed--at least, not with... | 1 | |
arg4718 | 3,811 | 40,163 | What this video tells me is that you have to blow every floor in order to get a building to collapse onto itself. I don't see an explosion on every floor of the towers. This means that something other than explosives caused the towers to collapse. Could it have been the intense heat of the plane's burning fuel? We have... | 1,210,766,942,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 3 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 371 | We've seen the footage of the WTC Towers collapsing straight down, into their own footprint, at nearly free-fall speed, so many times that it can start to look "normal" somehow.Nevertheless, it is not normal. Buildings don't collapse straight down, into their own footprint, at nearly free-fall speed--at least, not with... | 1 | |
arg4779 | 4,718 | 101 | Did you really see explosions in this video? Look again. All you can see is large clouds of grey dust being ejected from the bottom. It actually looks remarkably similar to the giant greyish dust cloud that progressively obscured the upper floors of the WTC towers as they collapsed.Controlled demolition uses the buildi... | 1,210,780,936,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -1 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 380 | We've seen the footage of the WTC Towers collapsing straight down, into their own footprint, at nearly free-fall speed, so many times that it can start to look "normal" somehow.Nevertheless, it is not normal. Buildings don't collapse straight down, into their own footprint, at nearly free-fall speed--at least, not with... | 2 | |
arg6156 | 4,779 | 72 | Haha, what an awful comparison. That is a video of a controlled demolition of a building in an icy / snowy climate, with the steel supports at the strongest / most rigid they could be before cracking. The WTC7 had been on fire for hours, and was hit with thousands of tonnes of debris. Fire radiates heat, which weakens ... | 1,211,058,881,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 2 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 675 | We've seen the footage of the WTC Towers collapsing straight down, into their own footprint, at nearly free-fall speed, so many times that it can start to look "normal" somehow.Nevertheless, it is not normal. Buildings don't collapse straight down, into their own footprint, at nearly free-fall speed--at least, not with... | 3 | ||
arg6428 | 6,156 | 101 | Good boy. NIST would be proud.Let's not forget that the fire was only on a few floors. If the WTC buildings had been rotated evenly over 1800 degree barbecues for 2 hours, then maybe I'd buy the "progressive collapse theory". It's simply not possible for unfocused, random fires on a handful of floors to weaken all the ... | 1,211,156,314,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 0 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 485 | We've seen the footage of the WTC Towers collapsing straight down, into their own footprint, at nearly free-fall speed, so many times that it can start to look "normal" somehow.Nevertheless, it is not normal. Buildings don't collapse straight down, into their own footprint, at nearly free-fall speed--at least, not with... | 4 | |
arg3812 | 3,811 | 77 | Wow...the History Channel and TLC or Discovery both did animated stories of exactly why the WTC suffered a catastrophic collapse.Even at the time of the collapse architects and engineers both agreed that the temperatures created by burning jet fuel is more then enough to melt girders. Collapse would have been inevitabl... | 1,210,487,756,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -3 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 3,628 | We've seen the footage of the WTC Towers collapsing straight down, into their own footprint, at nearly free-fall speed, so many times that it can start to look "normal" somehow.Nevertheless, it is not normal. Buildings don't collapse straight down, into their own footprint, at nearly free-fall speed--at least, not with... | 1 | |
arg3865 | 3,812 | 101 | Rocknwow.You have criticized me elsewhere for speculating both too much and not enough. In fact, you do such a good job of contradicting yourself, I need only step aside.However, you did raise one or two "points" I wanted to address: "Why bother to cover up the thermal devices within??? If [discovered, it would] confir... | 1,210,616,107,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 0 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 2,135 | We've seen the footage of the WTC Towers collapsing straight down, into their own footprint, at nearly free-fall speed, so many times that it can start to look "normal" somehow.Nevertheless, it is not normal. Buildings don't collapse straight down, into their own footprint, at nearly free-fall speed--at least, not with... | 2 | |
arg7841 | -1 | 8 | Stop talking about 9/11 damn they died get over it and so did a gay building and all the people that are crying about there gay family they should hurry up and get over it damn pussy's | 1,212,050,071,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -4 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 184 | 0 | |||
arg5464 | -1 | 10 | The way this debate was constructed creates a false dichotomy. Just because one thinks that 9/11 was not an inside job does not mean one trusts the government. | 1,210,961,097,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 13 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 159 | 0 | |||
arg8140 | 5,464 | 6 | I think it's only meant to imply that you "trust the government" not to have a hand in 9/11. Sadly, when I look at history, I don't. | 1,212,280,691,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 6 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 132 | The way this debate was constructed creates a false dichotomy. Just because one thinks that 9/11 was not an inside job does not mean one trusts the government.||| | 1 | |
arg9061 | 5,464 | 40 | Im a truther. The government did 911, as demonstrated by the extensive evidence cited in my rebuttals found below.That does not stop me from agreeing with this sadly deluded and superficial individual that the debate options present a false dichotomy.So I gave him a point for effort and endorse his argument. But it isn... | 1,212,812,139,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 0 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,148 | The way this debate was constructed creates a false dichotomy. Just because one thinks that 9/11 was not an inside job does not mean one trusts the government.||| | 1 | ||
arg4545 | -1 | 12 | This is a pointless debate. Conspiracy theorists are going to cite regurgitated information from conspiracy theory websites, non-conspiracy theorists are going to cite sources from government and popular mechanics magazines. Each side will discredit the other side's sources.We've got sources like the Northwoods Documen... | 1,210,715,786,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 11 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,100 | 0 | |||
arg11878 | 4,545 | 325 | Here's a 3D animation created by Purdue University scientists that show the effects of a plane plowing into the towers. | 1,216,056,370,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 1 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 119 | This is a pointless debate. Conspiracy theorists are going to cite regurgitated information from conspiracy theory websites, non-conspiracy theorists are going to cite sources from government and popular mechanics magazines. Each side will discredit the other side's sources.We've got sources like the Northwoods Documen... | 1 | ||
arg11900 | 11,878 | 40 | Doesnt prove anything, for or against. Irrelevant."using a state of the simulation code"Where has this code been published for peer review? Who paid for the simulation? does Purdue University receive funds from the US government?"State of the art simulation system" sounds very credible to the superficial. scientists ne... | 1,216,073,178,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -3 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 354 | This is a pointless debate. Conspiracy theorists are going to cite regurgitated information from conspiracy theory websites, non-conspiracy theorists are going to cite sources from government and popular mechanics magazines. Each side will discredit the other side's sources.We've got sources like the Northwoods Documen... | 2 | |
arg8207 | 4,545 | 40 | "We've got the popular mechanics article, which I think does an excellent job at debunking the myths."Only to the superficial observer.The popular mechanics article implies that standard office materials created the heat necessary to melt the steel core of the towers, which is utterly impossible because of the amount o... | 1,212,408,107,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 0 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,232 | This is a pointless debate. Conspiracy theorists are going to cite regurgitated information from conspiracy theory websites, non-conspiracy theorists are going to cite sources from government and popular mechanics magazines. Each side will discredit the other side's sources.We've got sources like the Northwoods Documen... | 1 | |
arg8209 | 8,207 | 409 | By molten steal are you referring to those trusses and beams that had diagonal cuts and were allegedly proof of theremite? If so, firemen and other workers have tools that enable them to cut through hard metals including steal, which is why it's cut diagonally (theremite can only burn holes at best) and so low to the g... | 1,212,409,035,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 3 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,148 | This is a pointless debate. Conspiracy theorists are going to cite regurgitated information from conspiracy theory websites, non-conspiracy theorists are going to cite sources from government and popular mechanics magazines. Each side will discredit the other side's sources.We've got sources like the Northwoods Documen... | 2 | |
arg8937 | 8,209 | 217 | Never before has a steel structure collapsed due to fire, until this point. Fire simply isnt hot enough. So while the diagonal cuts did not attribute to the fall of the building, neither did fire. Im really interested why people always bring up the domino effect succession theory, because it assumes that the internal s... | 1,212,739,600,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 2 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,080 | This is a pointless debate. Conspiracy theorists are going to cite regurgitated information from conspiracy theory websites, non-conspiracy theorists are going to cite sources from government and popular mechanics magazines. Each side will discredit the other side's sources.We've got sources like the Northwoods Documen... | 3 | |
arg8951 | 8,937 | 409 | Ockham's razor is not proof or even evidence for either direction. It is merely a tool for finding the more logical answer. Your objection to it is invalid and misunderstands what Ockham's razor is. Ockham's razor would actually favour atoms molecules and pressure because those things exist, and to posit a magical forc... | 1,212,749,164,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 2 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 2,715 | This is a pointless debate. Conspiracy theorists are going to cite regurgitated information from conspiracy theory websites, non-conspiracy theorists are going to cite sources from government and popular mechanics magazines. Each side will discredit the other side's sources.We've got sources like the Northwoods Documen... | 4 | |
arg9062 | 8,951 | 40 | "The L'Ambiance Plaza is an example of progressive collapse. At the time they were only half way through construction of the 16 story building, but that half was structurally completed. When the initial collapse occurred, one floor slab fell onto another, which couldn't take the weight and collapsed onto the next, and ... | 1,212,813,578,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 0 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,562 | This is a pointless debate. Conspiracy theorists are going to cite regurgitated information from conspiracy theory websites, non-conspiracy theorists are going to cite sources from government and popular mechanics magazines. Each side will discredit the other side's sources.We've got sources like the Northwoods Documen... | 5 | |
arg9180 | 9,062 | 409 | You are incorrect. the WTC collapses had to be controlled demolitions for the three core reasons- 1) molten metal witnesses and video evidence 2) free fall collapse acceleration (NOT pancaking) 3) vertical collapse of WTC7, overwhelmingly damaged on the south side, and hardly damaged on the north side at all.Moving the... | 1,212,951,538,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 1 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 5,450 | This is a pointless debate. Conspiracy theorists are going to cite regurgitated information from conspiracy theory websites, non-conspiracy theorists are going to cite sources from government and popular mechanics magazines. Each side will discredit the other side's sources.We've got sources like the Northwoods Documen... | 6 | |
arg10539 | 9,180 | 40 | Kevin Ryan and Dr. Steven E. Jones debunk NIST relentlessly at the journal for 9/11 studies.Jones has done extensive testing on the WTC dust, but he refutes your allegation that the molten metal witnessed was aluminium in this video:-http://www.archive.org/details/liftingthefog_2006_11_11_session2 In short, he points t... | 1,214,269,908,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -1 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,608 | This is a pointless debate. Conspiracy theorists are going to cite regurgitated information from conspiracy theory websites, non-conspiracy theorists are going to cite sources from government and popular mechanics magazines. Each side will discredit the other side's sources.We've got sources like the Northwoods Documen... | 7 | |
arg10029 | 9,180 | 40 | “You are incorrect. the WTC collapses had to be controlled demolitions for the three core reasons- 1) molten metal witnesses and video evidence 2) free fall collapse acceleration (NOT pancaking) 3) vertical collapse of WTC7, overwhelmingly damaged on the south side, and hardly damaged on the north side at all.Moving th... | 1,213,791,524,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -2 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 2,377 | This is a pointless debate. Conspiracy theorists are going to cite regurgitated information from conspiracy theory websites, non-conspiracy theorists are going to cite sources from government and popular mechanics magazines. Each side will discredit the other side's sources.We've got sources like the Northwoods Documen... | 7 | |
arg9060 | 8,209 | 40 | "By molten steal are you referring to those trusses and beams that had diagonal cuts and were allegedly proof of theremite?"No. Im referring to the video of orange/ yellow molten iron/ steel pouring from the towers before collapse and the firefighters who claimed it was "flowing like lava" among several other documente... | 1,212,811,295,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -1 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 4,592 | This is a pointless debate. Conspiracy theorists are going to cite regurgitated information from conspiracy theory websites, non-conspiracy theorists are going to cite sources from government and popular mechanics magazines. Each side will discredit the other side's sources.We've got sources like the Northwoods Documen... | 3 | |
arg9181 | 9,060 | 409 | I made a response to your other post and will skip the parts I covered there. Therein I covered the "lava" like flow, the collapse of WTC7, freefall, and vertical progressive collapse.http://www.debunking911.com/WTC7.htmThat covers fire damage and provides, near the bottom, diagrams, models, and corresponding primary e... | 1,212,953,682,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 2 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,737 | This is a pointless debate. Conspiracy theorists are going to cite regurgitated information from conspiracy theory websites, non-conspiracy theorists are going to cite sources from government and popular mechanics magazines. Each side will discredit the other side's sources.We've got sources like the Northwoods Documen... | 4 | |
arg3743 | -1 | 29 | To specify, I'm Canadian and this isn't my government. I dislike the US' current government, and I think it has used 9/11 as an excuse to start a phony war. This said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and I see none that shows 9/11 was an inside job. It sounds like another conspiracy theory to me, l... | 1,210,342,729,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 6 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 627 | 0 | |||
arg3750 | 3,743 | 914 | Its hard to cite the specific motivation but watch this video, it contains some hard evidence. BTW, here is a related debate. | 1,210,349,794,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 2 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 125 | To specify, I'm Canadian and this isn't my government. I dislike the US' current government, and I think it has used 9/11 as an excuse to start a phony war. This said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and I see none that shows 9/11 was an inside job. It sounds like another conspiracy theory to me, l... | 1 | |
arg5705 | 3,750 | 154 | All right, since Youtube videos are apparently good enough to provide evidence for this debate, here's one for you.(By the way, I don't trust my government at all. I personally think the prick who made this debate only sees things in black and white, as every idiot does.) | 1,210,984,174,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | -1 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 272 | To specify, I'm Canadian and this isn't my government. I dislike the US' current government, and I think it has used 9/11 as an excuse to start a phony war. This said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and I see none that shows 9/11 was an inside job. It sounds like another conspiracy theory to me, l... | 2 | |
arg5818 | 5,705 | 101 | "All right, since Youtube videos are apparently good enough to provide evidence for this debate, here's one for you."I prefer to judge evidence by its validity, not by where it came from. I'll even listen to you."(...I personally think the prick who made this debate only sees things in black and white, as every idiot d... | 1,210,995,139,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 1 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,604 | To specify, I'm Canadian and this isn't my government. I dislike the US' current government, and I think it has used 9/11 as an excuse to start a phony war. This said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and I see none that shows 9/11 was an inside job. It sounds like another conspiracy theory to me, l... | 3 | |
arg4724 | 3,750 | 40,163 | All I see is an explosion due to the burning fuel. | 1,210,767,238,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | -3 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 50 | To specify, I'm Canadian and this isn't my government. I dislike the US' current government, and I think it has used 9/11 as an excuse to start a phony war. This said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and I see none that shows 9/11 was an inside job. It sounds like another conspiracy theory to me, l... | 2 | |
arg4888 | 4,724 | 40,163 | Do you see something that I don't? | 1,210,803,127,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | -1 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 34 | To specify, I'm Canadian and this isn't my government. I dislike the US' current government, and I think it has used 9/11 as an excuse to start a phony war. This said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and I see none that shows 9/11 was an inside job. It sounds like another conspiracy theory to me, l... | 3 | ||
arg8561 | 3,743 | 281 | Follow the link I provided to a timeline that shows how afghanistan played into all this. | 1,212,551,847,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 2 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 89 | To specify, I'm Canadian and this isn't my government. I dislike the US' current government, and I think it has used 9/11 as an excuse to start a phony war. This said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and I see none that shows 9/11 was an inside job. It sounds like another conspiracy theory to me, l... | 1 | |
arg3753 | 3,743 | 101 | If the government were involved, speculating on its motivations is fruitless. We don't have the classified 9/11 Psy Op document (if there is such a thing)... and look how crazy that Northwoods document sounds. I'm looking at it, and it's still hard to believe! The questions of this debate are merely:1. are there elemen... | 1,210,363,185,000,000,000 | Obviously...Wake up, America! | 0 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,113 | To specify, I'm Canadian and this isn't my government. I dislike the US' current government, and I think it has used 9/11 as an excuse to start a phony war. This said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and I see none that shows 9/11 was an inside job. It sounds like another conspiracy theory to me, l... | 1 | |
arg3808 | 3,753 | 77 | This is just too easy.If the government were involved, speculating on its motivations is fruitless.What? That's exactly how a lot of crimes are solved. Who stands the most to gain? Who has gained?Example:Did you know that Larry Silverstein...collected something like 14 Billion in insurance claims?This may be valid or m... | 1,210,468,281,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 2 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,334 | To specify, I'm Canadian and this isn't my government. I dislike the US' current government, and I think it has used 9/11 as an excuse to start a phony war. This said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and I see none that shows 9/11 was an inside job. It sounds like another conspiracy theory to me, l... | 2 | |
arg4048 | 3,808 | 40 | "is there credible evidence that the government covered up their own involvement?No. Another mystery solved."Liar. Name me the locations where the steel from the WTC buildings can be publicly viewed, then.Also explain how the author of the national security strategy for the Bush administration ended up, after Kissinger... | 1,210,663,940,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 0 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 371 | To specify, I'm Canadian and this isn't my government. I dislike the US' current government, and I think it has used 9/11 as an excuse to start a phony war. This said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and I see none that shows 9/11 was an inside job. It sounds like another conspiracy theory to me, l... | 3 | |
arg4798 | -1 | 18 | I favour occams razor - "When multiple competing theories are equal in other respects, the principle recommends selecting the theory that introduces the fewest assumptions and postulates the fewest entities" i.e. "All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best."The people who believe it's a conspiracy ... | 1,210,784,967,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 5 | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,101 | 0 | |||
arg4876 | 4,798 | 101 | Key phrase being "equal in other respects." According to our President, the terrorists attack us because "they hate our freedom." Accepting this argument is much simpler than getting off your ass and learning the history that the U.S. has in that region. I guess that's why a lot of Americans (probably the same ones tha... | 1,210,802,260,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 0 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 514 | I favour occams razor - "When multiple competing theories are equal in other respects, the principle recommends selecting the theory that introduces the fewest assumptions and postulates the fewest entities" i.e. "All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best."The people who believe it's a conspiracy ... | 1 | |
arg4983 | 4,876 | 18 | Right. I don't understand the point you're trying to make. I agree that saying 'the terrorists attacked us because they hate our freedom' is wrong. America was attacked because it has never been a popular country in the middle east. The fact is, there was a motivation there, so while saying 'they hate our freedom' is w... | 1,210,839,859,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 1 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 1,585 | I favour occams razor - "When multiple competing theories are equal in other respects, the principle recommends selecting the theory that introduces the fewest assumptions and postulates the fewest entities" i.e. "All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best."The people who believe it's a conspiracy ... | 2 | |
arg5186 | 4,983 | 101 | Ok, that was a bit of a straw man.What I mean by equal in other respects is, able to explain the available data equally well.9/11 commission report fails to explain all the data. 9/11 truth movement via controlled demolition theory, and with the support of many scientists, engineers, and concerned citizens, is able to ... | 1,210,879,892,000,000,000 | Wrong, I trust my government. | 2 | Disputed | https://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/911_was_an_inside_job | general | 9/11 was an inside job. | {"score": 810, "arguments": 204, "totalVotes": 1538} | {"Obviously...Wake up, America!": 108, "Wrong, I trust my government.": 96} | [{"id": 0, "title": "Obviously...Wake up, America!", "points": 380}, {"id": 1, "title": "Wrong, I trust my government.", "points": 430}] | politics/9-11 | ["For 9/11 being an inside job", "Against 9/11 being an inside job"] | 752 | I favour occams razor - "When multiple competing theories are equal in other respects, the principle recommends selecting the theory that introduces the fewest assumptions and postulates the fewest entities" i.e. "All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best."The people who believe it's a conspiracy ... | 3 |
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