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re apollo training in iceland the apollo astronauts also trained at in meteor crater in the flagstaff area arizona there is now a museum with a space shop caution they ease you by compared to a ksc visit it s not worth thorsten nedderhut disclaimer mbp software systems gmbh c o esa esoc fcsd oad stb neither esa nor mbp...
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cold gas tanks for sounding rockets does anyone know how to size cold gas roll control thruster tanks for sounding rockets well first you work out how much cold gas you need then make the tanks big enough working out how much cold gas is another problem depending on vehicle configuration flight duration thruster isp wh...
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big amateur rockets i was reading popular science this morning and was surprised by an ad in the back i know that a lot of the ads in the back of ps are fringe science or questionablely legal but this one really grabbed my attention it was from a company name personal missle inc or something like that anyhow the ad sta...
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re shuttle oxygen was budget astronaut henry zoo toronto edu henry spencer writes there is an emergency oxygen system that is capable of maintaining a breathable atmosphere in the cabin for long enough to come down even if there is something like a cm hole in the wall that nobody tries to plug josh hopkins jbh uxa cso ...
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japanese moon landing afraid i can t give any more info on this and hoping someone in greter netland has some details a short story in the newspaper a few days ago made some sort of mention about how the japanese using what sounded like a gravity assist had just managed to crash or crash land a package on the moon the ...
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re big amateur rockets in article c ky y mkk raistlin udev cdc com pbd runyon cim cdc com paul dokas writes anyhow the ad stated that they d sell rockets that were up to in length and engines of sizes f to m they also said that some rockets will reach feet now aside from the obvious dangers to any amateur rocketeer usi...
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re a wrench in the works nanderso endor sim es com norman anderson writes jmcocker eos ncsu edu mitch writes effect that one of the ssrbs that was recovered after the recent space shuttle launch was found to have a wrench of some sort rattling around apparently inside the case i heard a similar statement in our local n...
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re how many read sci space rborden ugly uvic ca ross borden writes in article f permanet org mark prado p f n z permane one could go on and on and on here but i wonder how many people read sci space and of what power influence are these individuals quick everyone who sees this post a reply that says hey i read sci spac...
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re shuttle oxygen was budget astronaut in article apr aio jsc nasa gov kjenks gothamcity jsc nasa gov writes josh hopkins jbh uxa cso uiuc edu replied double wow can you land a shuttle with a cm hole in the wall personnally i don t know but i d like to try it sometime are you volunteering but a hole in the pressure ves...
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sixty two thousand was re how many read sci space reply address mark prado permanet org if anyone knows anyone else who would like to get sci space but doesn t have an internet feed or has a cryptic internet feed i would be willing to feed it to them i have a nice offline message reader editor an automated modem mailer...
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re japanese moon landing in article c kys c r panix com dannyb panix com daniel burstein writes a short story in the newspaper a few days ago made some sort of mention about how the japanese using what sounded like a gravity assist had just managed to crash or crash land a package on the moon their hiten engineering te...
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re big amateur rockets in article c ky y mkk raistlin udev cdc com pbd runyon cim cdc com paul dokas writes i was reading popular science this morning and was surprised by an ad in the back i know that a lot of the ads in the back of ps are fringe science or questionablely legal but this one really grabbed my attention...
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re big amateur rockets let s see these aren t in a strict sense amateur rockets that term denotes rockets the engines of which are constructed by the user the rockets you describe are called hpr or high power rockets to distinguish them from smaller model rockets they use factory made ammonium perchlorate composite pro...
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space event near los angeles ca apologies if this gets posted twice but i don t think the first one made it for immediate release contact oasis april los angeles ca local national space society chapters sponsor talk by l a advocate of lunar power system as energy source for the world on april the oasis and ventura coun...
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re big amateur rockets actually they are legal i not familiar with the ad you are speaking of but knowing popular science it is probably on the fringe however you may be speaking of public missle inc which is a legitimate company that has been around for a while due to advances in composite fuels engines are now availa...
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re dc x update in apr iti org aws iti org allen w sherzer writes as for the future there is at least m in next years budget for work on ssrt they sdio have been looking for more funds and do seem to have some however sdio is not i repeat is not going to fund an orbital prototype the best we can hope from them is to kee...
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re a wrench in the works from another space forum now where did i leave those pliers when workers at the kennedy space center disassembled the sts solid rocket boosters they were surprised to find a pair of pliers lodged into the outside base of the right hand srb the tool survived the trip from the launch pad up to ap...
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re a wrench in the works in article ksr com jfw ksr com john f woods writes nanderso endor sim es com norman anderson writes jmcocker eos ncsu edu mitch writes effect that one of the ssrbs that was recovered after the recent space shuttle launch was found to have a wrench of some sort rattling around apparently inside ...
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re japanese moon landing in article c kys c r panix com dannyb panix com daniel burstein writes a short story in the newspaper a few days ago made some sort of mention about how the japanese using what sounded like a gravity assist had just managed to crash or crash land a package on the moon the japanese spacecraft hi...
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washington post article on us russian space cooperation reported yesterday in the washington post kathy sawyer writer the article plays down the russian role in us space gibbons science advisor to clinton sent goldin a letter indicating nasa should not limit redesign options to those compatible with mir orbit the white...
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re japanese moon landing in article c l xt iqd zoo toronto edu henry zoo toronto edu henry spencer writes in article c kys c r panix com dannyb panix com daniel burstein writes a short story in the newspaper a few days ago made some sort of mention about how the japanese using what sounded like a gravity assist had jus...
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orion drive in vacuum how background the orion spacedrive was a theoretical concept it would be a drive using thermonuclear explosions to drive a spacecraft the idea was that you d detonate devices with somewhere from one to ten megatons yield behind a pusher plate attached to the main spacecraft the shock wave from th...
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how to read sci space without netnews in article f permanet org mark prado p f n z permanet org mark prado writes if anyone knows anyone else who would like to get sci space but doesn t have an internet feed or has a cryptic internet feed i would be willing to feed it to them kudos to mark for his generous offer but th...
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re japanese moon landing in article c ldod pc news cso uiuc edu rls uihepa hep uiuc edu writes allow it to go into lunar orbit without large expenditures of fuel to slow down the idea is that natural objects sometimes get captured without expending fuel we ll just find the trajectory that makes it possible the originat...
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re orion drive in vacuum how in article qn bginn s mimi uu net goltz mimi uu net james p goltz writes would this work i can t see the em radiation impelling very much momentum especially given the mass of the pusher plate and it seems to me you re going to get more momentum transfer throwing the bombs out the back of t...
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re shuttle oxygen was budget astronaut i thought that under emergency conditions the sts can put down at any good size airport if it could take a c or a then it can take an orbiter you just need a vor tac i don t know if they need ils pat anyone know for sure
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re how many read sci space in article apr sol uvic ca rborden ugly uvic ca ross borden writes in article qjs j access digex net prb access digex com pat writes in the old days their used to be arbitron stats that analyzed the readership and posting volumes by group and user they were available from uunet that s how you...
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re japanese moon landing there is no such thing as a stable lunar orbit is it right that is new stuff for me so it means that you just can not put a sattellite around around the moon for too long because its orbit will be unstable if so what is the reason is that because the combined gravitacional atraction of the sun ...
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portuguese launch complex was doppelganger portugese launch complex were wonderful portuguese launch complex gosh polish are for american in the same way as portuguese are for brazilians i am from brazil there is a joke about the portuguese space agency that wanted to send a portuguese astronaut to the surface of the s...
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re space news from feb aw st marshall is investigating a small but odd pressure rise in one srb during the jan endeavour launch it lasted only three seconds and the thrust difference between the two srbs was not enough to cause nozzle gimballing the srb casing shows no abnormalities is this the one that had the wrench ...
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quotation lowest bidder can someone please remind me who said a well known quotation he was sitting atop a rocket awaiting liftoff and afterwards in answer to the question what he had been thinking about said approximately half a million components each has to work perfectly each supplied by the lowest bidder attributi...
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moscow aviation institute summer school i have attached a copy of an announcement i picked up during my trip to moscow last week i have several friends at the moscow aviation institute who have asked me to post this announcement i have done some editing but the contents is unchanged from the original announcement for t...
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orion space drive an excellent reference for non technical readers on the orion system is the starflight handbook by eugene mallove and gregory matloff isbn the relevant chapter is nuclear pulse propulsion the book also contains lots of technical references for the more academically inclined enjoy c c c c c c c c c c c...
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japanese moon landing temporary orbit rls uihepa hep uiuc edu ray swartz oh that guy again writes the gravity maneuvering that was used was to exploit fuzzy regions these are described by the inventor as exploiting the second order perturbations in a three body system the probe was launched into this region for the ear...
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re japanese moon landing in article qnb tinn ff rave larc nasa gov c o egalon larc nasa gov claudio oliveira egalon writes there is no such thing as a stable lunar orbit is it right that is new stuff for me so it means that you just can not put a sattellite around around the moon for too long because its orbit will be ...
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two line orbital element set space shuttle the most current orbital elements from the norad two line element sets are carried on the celestial bbs and are updated daily when possible documentation and tracking software are also available on this system as a service to the satellite user community the most current eleme...
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re guns for space in reference to the limits of acceleration with guns launching solid rockets as payloads thiokol provided me with samples and data on a reinforcement to solid motor grains for high accelerations solid motor propellants usually have a substantial percentage of aluminum in the mix for example the space ...
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re guns for space okay lets get the record straight on the livermore gas gun the project manager is dr john hunter and he works for the laser group at livermore what you may ask does gas guns have to do with lasers nothing really but the gun is physically located across the road from the free electron laser building an...
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re elevator to the top floor reading from a amoco performance products data sheet their erl resin with t carbon fiber reinforcement has a compressive strength of psi it has a density of lb cu in therefore the theoretical height for a constant section column that can just support itself is million inches or ft or statut...
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end of the space age there is an interesting opinion piece in the business section of today s la times thursday april p d i thought i d post it to stir up some flame wars i mean reasoned debate let me preface it by saying that i largely agree that the space age in the romantic sense of several decades ago is over and t...
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re orion drive in vacuum how in article qn bginn s mimi uu net james p goltz goltz mimi uu net writes background the orion spacedrive was a theoretical concept it was more than a theoretical concept it was seriously pursued by freeman dyson et al many years ago i don t know how well known this is but a high explosive o...
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help for school i am a newbie to the net and i am trying to get some information for a paper i am working on to get back into college if anyone can send me data on solar coronal holes and recurrant aurora for the past thirty years it would be a big help or if you have information on more esoteric things like telluric c...
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re solar sail data in article apr news duc auburn edu snydefj eng auburn edu frank j snyder writes i am looking for any information concerning projects involving solar sails i understand that the jpl did an extensive study on the subject back in the late s but i am having trouble gathering such information are there an...
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russian email contacts does anyone have any russian contacts space or other or contacts in the old ussr su or eastern europe post them here so we all can talk to them and ask questions i think the cost of email is high so we would have to keep the content to specific topics and such basically if we want to save russia ...
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quotation was re none in article apr otago ac nz bioccnt otago ac nz writes can someone please remind me who said a well known quotation he was sitting atop a rocket awaiting liftoff and afterwards in answer to the question what he had been thinking about said approximately half a million components each has to work pe...
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re orbital repairstation the difficulties of a high isp otv include long transfer times radiation damage from vanallen belts for both the spacecraft and otv arcjets or xenon thrusters require huge amounts of power so you have to have either nuclear power source messy dangerous and source of radiation damage or big sola...
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army in space is anybody out there willing to discuss with me careers in the army that deal with space after i graduate i will have a commitment to serve in the army and i would like to spend it in a space related field i saw a post a long time ago about the air force space command which made a fleeting reference to it...
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re orion drive in vacuum how in article apr sfu ca leigh palmer palmer sfu ca writes in article qn bginn s mimi uu net james p goltz goltz mimi uu net writes background the orion spacedrive was a theoretical concept it was more than a theoretical concept it was seriously pursued by freeman dyson et al many years ago i ...
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re space debris there is a guy in nasa johnson space center that might answer your question i do not have his name right now but if you follow up i can dig that out for you c o egalon larc nasa gov claudio oliveira egalon
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end of the space age we are not at the end of the space age but only at the end of its beginning that space exploration is no longer a driver for technical innovation or a focus of american cultural attention is certainly debatable however technical developments in other quarters will always be examined for possible ap...
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re what if the ussr had reached the moon first this is turning into what s a moonbase good for and i ought not to post when i ve a hundred some odd posts to go but i would think that the real reason to have a moon base is economic since someone with space industry will presumeably have a much larger gnp than they would...
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space shuttle information wanted hello everyone i was hoping someone could help me out i m writing a program for my astronautics class for assent of the shuttle into a low orbit there are two things i d like to know first how much time elapses between launch and the pitch over second what is the cross sectional area of...
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re army in space ktj beach cis ufl edu kerry todd johnson writes is anybody out there willing to discuss with me careers in the army that deal with space after i graduate i will have a commitment to serve in the army and i would like to spend it in a space related field i saw a post a long time ago about the air force ...
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re nasa wraps in article apr iti org aws iti org allen w sherzer writes in article apr judy uh edu wingo cspara decnet fedex msfc nasa gov writes btw universities do the same thing they however have a wrap of to again this is over and above any overhead charge wrong allen the max overhead charge is all of the charge th...
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re army in space there is the army ballistic missile defense organization they were the precursors to sdio and still exist under that umbrella army signal corp s and dca defense comm agency oops disa they just changed names do space work that s the point of all those defense comm sats but don t worry there are lots of ...
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re end of the space age oddly enough the smithsonian calls the lindbergh years the golden age of flight i would call it the granite years reflecting the primitive nature of it it was romantic swashbuckling daredevils those daring young men in their flying machines but in reality it sucked death was a highly likely occu...
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a flawed propulsion system space shuttle for an essay i am writing about the space shuttle and a need for a better propulsion system through research i have found that it is rather clumsy i e all the checks tests before launch the safety hazards sitting on a hydrogen bomb etc if you have any beefs about the current spa...
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re orion drive in vacuum how in article apr sfu ca leigh palmer palmer sfu ca writes a high explosive orion prototype flew in the atmosphere in san diego back in or i feel sure that someone must have film of that experiment and i d really like to see it has anyone out there seen it the national air space museum has bot...
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re orbital repairstation in article c mtyj q well sf ca us collins well sf ca us steve collins writes the difficulties of a high isp otv include if you go solar you have to replace the arrays every trip with current technology you re assuming that go solar photovoltaic solar dynamic power turbo alternators doesn t have...
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re dc x update henry zoo toronto edu henry spencer writes the first flight will be a low hover that will demonstrate a vertical landing there will be no payload dc x will never carry any kind exactly when will the hover test be done and will any of the tv networks carry it i really want to see that john lussmyer dragon...
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re orion drive in vacuum how in article c ngxq zoo toronto edu henry spencer henry zoo toronto edu writes the national air space museum has both the prototype and the film when i was there some years ago they had the prototype on display and the film continuously repeating great i ll visit the national air and space mu...
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re nasa wraps in article apr judy uh edu wingo cspara decnet fedex msfc nasa gov writes i don t care who told you this it is not generally true i see every single line item on a contract and i have to sign it there is no such thing as wrap at this university dennis i have worked on or written proposals worth tens of mi...
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re clementine mission name mark prado please go just one step further how has the word clementine been associated with mining old pioneer song from the s or so goes as follows in a cavern in a canyon excavating for a mine dwelt a miner forty niner and his daughter clementine chorus oh my darling oh my darling oh my dar...
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space clipper launch article to all i thought the net would find this amusing from the march aero vision the newsletter for the employees of mcdonnell douglas aerospace at huntington beach california space clippers launched successfully on monday march at noon quest aerospace education inc launched two dc y space clipp...
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lrdpa news many of you at this point have seen a copy of the lunar resources data purchase act by now this bill also known as the back to the moon bill would authorize the u s government to purchase lunar science data from private and non profit vendors selected on the basis of competitive bidding with an aggregate cap...
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re talking to boeing management about ssto type stuff from a shareholder perspective i might suggest giving the management some more mumble time by asking the very leading question in two or three parts what are your long term expectations of space market what projects specifically are they funding by internal funds an...
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re venus lander for venus conditions i doubt there are good prospects for a self armoring system for venus surface conditions several hundred degrees very high pressure of co possibly sulfuric and nitric acids or oxides but it is a notion to consider for outer planets rs where you might pick up ices under less extream ...
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wanted optical shaft encoders for telescope also posted in misc forsale wanted misc wanted ne wanted ny wanted nj wanted wanted optical shaft encoders quantity single ended incremental needed to encode the movements of a cassegrain telescope the telescope is in the observatory of the univ of mass at boston the project ...
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re atlas revisited i found it very interesting that atlas depended on pressure to maintain tank geometry leads me to the question have any of the ssto concepts explored pressurized tankage such that the launch configuration would be significantly different from the reentry one i have long been facinated by pnumatic str...
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re what if the ussr had reached the moon first in article saundrsg qucdn queensu ca graydon saundrsg qucdn queensu ca writes this is turning into what s a moonbase good for and i ought not to post when i ve a hundred some odd posts to go but i would think that the real reason to have a moon base is economic since someo...
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re army in space last i had heard because of budget and such the air farce is the only space command left the rest missions were generally given to the air farce probably a good reason for me to transfer from the army guard to the air guard i hate walking with a pack on my back and how do you put on your application fo...
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re shuttle launch question in article apr stdvax abdkw stdvax david ward writes in article c jlwx h cs cmu edu etrat ttacs ttu edu pack rat writes there has been something bothering me while watching nasa select for a while well i should nt say bothering maybe wondering would be better when they are going to launch the...
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into infinity was re doppelganger was re vulcan in qkn rinnett mojo eng umd edu sysmgr king eng umd edu writes in article apr fnalf fnal gov higgins fnalf fnal gov bill higgins beam jockey writes this was known as journey to the far side of the sun in the united states and as doppelganger in the u k later they went on ...
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re space debris there is a guy in nasa johnson space center that might answer your question i do not have his name right now but if you follow up i can dig that out for you keesler loftus potter stansbery kubriek
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orion test film is the film from the putt putt test vehicle which used conventional explosives as a proof of concept test or another one c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c c nathan f wallace c c reality is c c e mail wallacen cs colostate edu c c ancient alphaean proverb c c...
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re japanese moon landing temporary orbit in article pgf srl cacs usl edu pgf srl cacs usl edu phil g fraering writes rls uihepa hep uiuc edu ray swartz oh that guy again writes the gravity maneuvering that was used was to exploit fuzzy regions these are described by the inventor as exploiting the second order perturbat...
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re shuttle launch question from article c owcb n p world std com by tombaker world std com tom a baker in article c jlwx h cs cmu edu etrat ttacs ttu edu pack rat writes clear caution warning memory verify no unexpected errors i am wondering what an expected error might be sorry if this is a really dumb question but pa...
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re nasp i have before me a pertinent report from the united states general accounting office national aero space plane restructuring future research and development efforts december report number gao nsiad in the back it lists the following related reports nasp key issues facing the program mar gao t nsiad aerospace pl...
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dspse was why clementine the sdio has contracted with the nrl naval research laboratory to fly the clementine mission btw we call it dspse deep space project science experiment the nrl is building the spacecraft designing the detailed mission and doing the integration and operations with help from jpl goddard prob some...
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re comet in temporary orbit around jupiter can these questions be answered for a previous instance such as the gehrels that was mentioned in an earlier posting orbital elements of comet vii from dance files p au e i cap omega w epoch thanks for the information i assume p is the semi major axis and e the eccentricity th...
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re into infinity was re doppelganger was re vulcan in article apr abo fi mlindroos finabo abo fi marcus lindroos inf writes later on the andersons tried to shed their reputation as creators of some of the worst pseudo scientific shows in tv history by flying into infinity this was a one off thing done as part of bbc s ...
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why not give billion to first year long moon residents with the continuin talk about the end of the space age and complaints by government over the large cost why not try something i read about that might just work announce that a reward of billion would go to the first corporation who successfully keeps at least perso...
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navstar positions i ve just read richard langley s latest navstar gps constellation status it states that the latest satellite was placed in orbit plane position c there is already one satellite in that position i know that it s almost ten years since that satellite was launched but it s still in operation so why not u...
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buzz aldrin s race into space has anyone heard of or played buzz aldrin s race into space does anyone know when it is expected to be released thanx tom
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diaspar virtual reality network announcement posted to the internet by wmiler nyx cs du edu david the lunar tele operation model one ltm by david h mitchell march introduction in order to increase public interest in space based and lunar operations a real miniature lunar like environment is being constructed on which t...
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re orion drive in vacuum how leigh palmer palmer sfu ca writes i feel sure that someone must have film of that experiment and i d really like to see it has anyone out there seen it i ve seen a film of it my memory may be faulty but as i remember it the vehicle was slightly over a meter long with a thick baseplate cm in...
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re comet in temporary orbit around jupiter in article apr sq sq com msb sq sq com mark brader writes can these questions be answered for a previous instance such as the gehrels that was mentioned in an earlier posting orbital elements of comet vii from dance files p au e i cap omega w epoch also perihelions of gehrels ...
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re orbital repairstation in article c hcbo joy zoo toronto edu henry zoo toronto edu henry spencer writes the biggest problem with this is that all orbits are not alike it can actually be more expensive to reach a satellite from another orbit than from the ground but with cheaper fuel from space based sources it will b...
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re nasa wraps in article apr iti org aws iti org allen w sherzer writes in article apr judy uh edu wingo cspara decnet fedex msfc nasa gov writes i don t care who told you this it is not generally true i see every single line item on a contract and i have to sign it there is no such thing as wrap at this university den...
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re biosphere ii in q kia gg access digex net pat writes in article almaden ibm com nicho vnet ibm com writes in q ud ji access digex net pat writes why is everyone being so critical of b because it s bogus science promoted as real science it seems to me that it s sorta a large engineering project more then a science pr...
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re biosphere ii in q ku av access digex net pat writes the work is privately funded the data belongs to sbv i don t see either george or fred scoriating ibm research division for not releasing data we publish plenty kiddo you just have to look sig files are like strings every yo yo s got one greg nicholls nicho vnet ib...
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re sixty two thousand was re how many read sci space in article apr fnalf fnal gov higgins fnalf fnal gov bill higgins beam jockey writes reid alas gives us no measure of the power influence of readers sorry mark i think i can largely as a result of efforts by people reading this group writing letters and making phone ...
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re astronomy program in article galaxy ucr edu datadec ucrengr ucr edu kevin marcus writes are there any public domain or shareware astronomy programs which will map out the sky at any given time and allow you to locate planets nebulae and so forth if so is there any ftp site where i can get one there are several star ...
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re what if the ussr had reached the moon first in article apr ke zv uucp gary ke zv uucp gary coffman writes in article saundrsg qucdn queensu ca graydon saundrsg qucdn queensu ca writes this is turning into what s a moonbase good for and i ought not to post when i ve a hundred some odd posts to go but i would think th...
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re shuttle launch question in article apr head cfa harvard edu jcm head cfa harvard edu jonathan mcdowell writes my understanding is that the expected errors are basically known bugs in the warning system software things are checked that don t have the right values in yet because they aren t set till after launch and s...
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re why not give billion to first year long moon residents gene wright gene theporch raider net wrote announce that a reward of billion would go to the first corporation who successfully keeps at least person alive on the moon for a year then you d see some of the inexpensive but not popular technologies begin to be dev...
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re orion drive in vacuum how in article apr sfu ca leigh palmer palmer sfu ca writes in article c ngxq zoo toronto edu henry spencer henry zoo toronto edu writes the national air space museum has both the prototype and the film when i was there some years ago they had the prototype on display and the film continuously ...
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vast bandwidth over runs on nasa thread was re nasa wraps in article apr judy uh edu dennis writes about a zillion lines in response to article apr iti org in which allen wrote a zillion lines in response to article apr judy uh edu in which dennis wrote another zillion lines in response to allen hey can it you guys tak...
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re orion drive in vacuum how in article quh innf elroy jpl nasa gov pjs euclid jpl nasa gov writes the national air space museum has both the prototype and the film when i was there some years ago they had the prototype on display great i ll visit the national air and space museum at the end of the month sorry to put a...
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conference on manned lunar exploration may crystal city aw st had a brief blurb on a manned lunar exploration confernce may th at crystal city virginia under the auspices of aiaa does anyone know more about this how much to attend anyone want to go pat