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Tinybox#9112: to something just slightly better
TheFifthAce#4128: b00f should I buy a 1tb PM981 for 100$
Tinybox#9112: the completed build I sent him
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/582665941603582031/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: he rlly wanted an atx mobo
Tinybox#9112: for his case.
Tinybox#9112: So I got one, not as good as the mATX ones but I made him aware of that
Tinybox#9112: plus at least it has a vrm heatsink
Tinybox#9112: I Went for that weakass cooler (but a lot stronger than stock cooler), since he didnt want a stock cooler for his build
Tinybox#9112: and didnt have any extra budget to lay down
Tinybox#9112: https://www.amazon.com/LEDdess-120mm-Silent-Computer-Coolers/dp/B07F65HK8J/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pdt_img_top?ie=UTF8
Tinybox#9112: thesee are the RGB fans + STRIPS I told him to get after I researched on them
Tinybox#9112: In total with fans, it will cost him 1220
Alcyone#2233: I have the same set. It works but the controls are wonky and it uses proprietary connections
Tinybox#9112: @Alcyone yea I looked around, I seem to ***only*** be able to find these as best value as they come with strips and 2 fans and quite a few accessories in one pack |
Tinybox#9112: And you can plug the fans straight into the mobo it seems?
Tinybox#9112: And I think you can control them?
Tinybox#9112: Ah shit I need to see if this mobo is using VCC control mode
Alcyone#2233: They are 3 pin and do dc speed control fine. Only like 1200 rpm? Mine are quiet full blast
Tinybox#9112: Alright.
I hope it will work for him.
Also they are enough to "move air" right
Tinybox#9112: He's gonna keep the standard two included fans at the front
SuSSudio#2688: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-10th-generation-core-10nm-ice-lake-gen11-graphics-sunny-cove-thunderbolt-3-usb-c,39477.html
TheFifthAce#4128: b00f
TheFifthAce#4128: @SuSSudio I mean, it's all mobile CPUs lmao
TheFifthAce#4128: so amd still theoretically on top with their new stuff
SuSSudio#2688: Well yeah unfortunately :Hahahahaha:
SuSSudio#2688: Welp 10nm ain't coming to desktop until 2020-21... By the time they introduced it, it's already on 3rd or 4th process optimization stage.
Deinsti#5907: 25W mobile cpu's |
Deinsti#5907: Back in the mobile sandy days a mobile i5 would use 45w :haha:
TheFifthAce#4128: @SuSSudio amd will be on 5nm when they do 10nm deskktop
TheFifthAce#4128: :ULTRAKEK:
Deinsti#5907: If they want to catch up with AMD
SuSSudio#2688: But then manufacturing node isn't everything
Deinsti#5907: They would need to completely skip 7nm
TheFifthAce#4128: It definitely helps
SuSSudio#2688: Its biggest effect is being able to cramp more transistors, fit more cores & allowing higher clock speeds. Also increasing efficiencies at low loads.
Deinsti#5907: I honestly don't care much about manufacturing nodes that much
SuSSudio#2688: We're on the physics limit already
Deinsti#5907: It's the same as the bit wars in the late 90's
SuSSudio#2688: ^^^
Deinsti#5907: Yeah, 32bit, 64bit, 128bit; towards the end, no one cares
Deinsti#5907: And some consoles proved "that bits aren't everything" :haha:
Deinsti#5907: Same with nodes |
SuSSudio#2688: Instructions, clock speeds, cores & threads, chip designs plays bigger roles
Deinsti#5907: AMD has the benefit of better nodes which let higher speeds and more cores etc
Deinsti#5907: While Intel has the benefit of having a fantastic albeit a bug riden architecture and great lower core count chips; looking at the fact that for many years; Intel cpu's are the kings of single and quad core performance
SuSSudio#2688: So the verdict is, Intel will have to overhaul their mArch for the upcoming lineup. Competing with AMD, mitigating security backdoors regardless hardware & software.
Deinsti#5907: 10th gen has fixed a lot of Security issues on the silicone level including both hardware and software e.g. Spectre and others
SuSSudio#2688: True.
SuSSudio#2688: But no mention of ZombieLoad fix.
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Are and ryzen mobile chips sodered to their mb
SuSSudio#2688: It looks like it is
JustinXenyx#8854: Mobile chips are @Jamie.Cullen
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Damn
JustinXenyx#8854: Laptops with desktop ryzen chips are socketed, time will tell if we will see mobile AMD ryzen cpu's in a socket
JustinXenyx#8854: But, to be fair, socketed chips have been pretty uncommon with notebooks for the last 2 years, so i can understand why they arent doing them rn
JustinXenyx#8854: But if they wanna get serious on their mobile game i think they should socket mobile chips
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I'd prefer if to be socketed |
Tinybox#9112: Any of yall know how good voltage fan control works with a can combiner (2x>1x)
Tinybox#9112: (3 pin fan control)
HappySlappyFace#0441: @Tinybox so voltage control
HappySlappyFace#0441: im sure the 3rd pin is just to tell the pc the fan rpm
Jam#0384: that is if your board supports voltage control
Jam#0384: not all of them do
Alcyone#2233: It works fine, there is usually only one side of the splitter cable with a tach wire though, so it will only read the speeds of the fan on that connector.
I have 3 headers running 7 fans
flyingsky#4474: can i change socket ?
flyingsky#4474: 1156 to 1150 ?
flyingsky#4474: @JustinXenyx
Tinybox#9112: no
Daze#8232: Hi guys so I have an Athlon II X4 645 which is a quadcore with a 3.1 of ghz so I'm asking you if it bottlenecks a 1050ti?
TheFifthAce#4128: open up afterburner and check for yourself |
Daze#8232: I don't understand what you mean.
TheFifthAce#4128: do you not have the 1050 ti yet
TheFifthAce#4128: that's a pretty weak CPU
TheFifthAce#4128: I wouldn't be surprised if it did bottleneck
TheFifthAce#4128: its basically a c2q q8400 tbh
flyingsky#4474: i need help why does my motherboard doees not work 1 ram slott ?
ANDEbad#6721: @Daze I wouldn't waste the money on a 1050 ti in that platform tbh.
ANDEbad#6721: I had a phenom II x6 1090t at 3.9ghz and it was still bottlenecking the crap out of an rx570
ANDEbad#6721: You would be better off buying a sandy bridge or ivy bridge prebuilt and getting a new psu with a used rx570
SuSSudio#2688: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14429/intel-to-launch-new-xseries-cpus-this-fall
SuSSudio#2688: the good news : https://wccftech.com/amd-stock-soars-10-wall-street-analysts-say-chipmaker-to-take-market-share-from-intel/
Sulphurite#3623: Would a Radeon Sapphire RX560 OC 2GB GDDR5 be a good option for a egpu using a EXP GDC V 8.0?
JustinXenyx#8854: eGPU setups in general are super unpractical and i never recommend them
JustinXenyx#8854: They cripple every GPU you put in them to hell, because they only provide one PCIe 2.0 lane
Lady Mipha#0611: And this is why we didn’t see egpu on laptops |
Lady Mipha#0611: For a while
JustinXenyx#8854: Yup, but even Thunderbolt 3 is extremely limiting with its 4 PCIe 3.0 lanes
JustinXenyx#8854: But with Thunderbolt we actually got practical eGPU solutions
Sulphurite#3623: So , i got a lenovo T430 , BUT i want to have a good gpu on the laptop when i am home cause i got a dock. And i got a expresscard slot that could be used to connect the gpu
GoldenSky#4649: I actually used an eGPU setup on my old T430
GoldenSky#4649: I got far better framerates and my settings weren't toaster quality, so I was happy
GoldenSky#4649: I actually made a video on it
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd rather invest the money of the dock and the GPU in a used gaming pc
JustinXenyx#8854: Would give you much better value for money
Sulphurite#3623: How was it like , cause i got the Radeon gpu for a cheap price , and it works in my friends tower build
Sulphurite#3623: How much preformance is lost?
GoldenSky#4649: It would, but I already had that
GoldenSky#4649: It was actually very nice for bringing on holidays with me
JustinXenyx#8854: @GoldenSky wasn't talkin about you lol
GoldenSky#4649: Because I travel a good bit during the summer |
GoldenSky#4649: I eventually sold all of it and got my Y50-70
Sulphurite#3623: I decked out the T430 , all i now need is a gpu at home for a good workstation
GoldenSky#4649: You'll be losing a substantial amount of performance
JustinXenyx#8854: As far as i know, roughly 50 - 60% of graphics performance is lost with a eGPU setup
Sulphurite#3623: Okay , but i saw on their website..
Sulphurite#3623: Sec
GoldenSky#4649: If you're looking at the GDC beast or something from China, don't trust what it says
GoldenSky#4649: They always bullshit the capabilities
Sulphurite#3623: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/583215535546957824/FLM4XH3JO8XZI3A.SMALL.jpg
GoldenSky#4649: Check out the videos I made on the base T430 and then the T430 with a GTX 680
Sulphurite#3623: Found it
GoldenSky#4649: You'll get a good idea of the performance
Sulphurite#3623: What is ur name on yt
GoldenSky#4649: Check my Discord profile
GoldenSky#4649: It's linked there |
Sulphurite#3623: Oh okay
Sulphurite#3623: So is the thing photo bull or not?
GoldenSky#4649: That's just giving you a card that's recommended for bandwidth
GoldenSky#4649: That's not gonna tell you much
Sulphurite#3623: What is gonna tell me much?
GoldenSky#4649: Essentially look up the PCI-E speeds for the version your card uses and then look at the speeds express card or the PCI-E on your laptop can provide
GoldenSky#4649: You'll see then how much it'll bottleneck
JustinXenyx#8854: These eGPU thingies that aren't thunderbolt either run on mPCIe or Expresscard, which only provide one PCIe lane (usually gen2)
GoldenSky#4649: Yup
Sulphurite#3623: Oof
Sulphurite#3623: Than that means BOTTLENECK af
GoldenSky#4649: Y u p
Sulphurite#3623: It uses 16x
GoldenSky#4649: I was only able to get a fraction of the performance my desktop got on my GDC beast with my T430
Sulphurite#3623: Well than |
GoldenSky#4649: It was still a good boost over the integrated graphics
Sulphurite#3623: Did it also use 16x
Sulphurite#3623: I just watched your video
GoldenSky#4649: It was a 16x slot
Sulphurite#3623: So will the bottleneck be much bigger on my AMD gpu than on your 680?
GoldenSky#4649: No?
JustinXenyx#8854: on a percental scale, it will be the same bottleneck
Sulphurite#3623: So will i get better preformance?
GoldenSky#4649: You're still limited to PCI-E 2.0
Sulphurite#3623: I mean better preformance than the 680
GoldenSky#4649: So if you have anything larger than that it's still gonna be 2.0 speeds out of it
GoldenSky#4649: Unlikely
JustinXenyx#8854: the 680 is about 1050Ti performance, the RX560 is slightly below a 1050
GoldenSky#4649: That and you'd still have the same amount of bandwidth to work with
Sulphurite#3623: Okay than |
Sulphurite#3623: It will still be better than the INTEL stuff
GoldenSky#4649: Yeah for sure
GoldenSky#4649: With GTA V on lowest settings I went from 40 FPS to around 120
GoldenSky#4649: So that was neat
SuSSudio#2688: Is it worth trying HD 5670?
Sulphurite#3623: Did you use 8.0 EXP GDC in your video or the 8.4
SuSSudio#2688: GDDR5 variant
GoldenSky#4649: 8.0
Sulphurite#3623: Alright , so i expect like 90 to 100 fps with the gpu in gta?
GoldenSky#4649: I'd say around that yeah
GoldenSky#4649: On lowest settings
Sulphurite#3623: WHAT
Sulphurite#3623: :Bruhh:
GoldenSky#4649: Excluding the resolution scaler
Sulphurite#3623: You had high/normal settings in your video |
GoldenSky#4649: Yeah and in the benchmark I was getting between 40-60 FPS
Sulphurite#3623: Oh
Sulphurite#3623: Okay than
Sulphurite#3623: So med settings will be fine?
GoldenSky#4649: Yeah
Sulphurite#3623: What psu do i use for the egpu
GoldenSky#4649: Anything that powers it
Sulphurite#3623: Cause i dont know what to buy
GoldenSky#4649: And preferably one that doesn't blow
Sulphurite#3623: Can you name a cheap example?
GoldenSky#4649: I can't
GoldenSky#4649: I slapped a CX 430 desktop PSU and the GDC beast + GTX 680 into a shoebox and used that
GoldenSky#4649: I'd recommend you get a smaller PSU
Sulphurite#3623: Okay , that is not that bad of a price
Sulphurite#3623: Cause they recommended me a 450w supply and i was just like sweating :FightMe: |
JustinXenyx#8854: Well, in theory a 250w psu should do it for most cards that people put into these docks
GoldenSky#4649: Yeah
GoldenSky#4649: 450w is probably a precaution thing
Sulphurite#3623: So 250w it is
Sulphurite#3623: Akyga AKYGA AK-B1-400S Basic 400W, DC 3.3/5/±12V, 1x80, Bulk
Would this be a bomb or a molotov?
Sulphurite#3623: Or a okay psu for the egpu
thatubuntuguy#5914: idk if fsp units are available where you live
thatubuntuguy#5914: fsp psus are a very good bet
thatubuntuguy#5914: i paid £6.50 for my 350w
Sulphurite#3623: Can you link?
Sulphurite#3623: Is it on amazon?
JustinXenyx#8854: that thing is a fucking fukushima accident @Sulphurite
Robin#5845: What socket 775 chipsets overclock? |
SuSSudio#2688: @Robin The later 775 mobos like G41, P45, & X48 will overclock, Only to certain point with lower end mobos like G41
SuSSudio#2688: X48 mobo will overclock the most & packs most of the overclocking features.
Robin#5845: and what is a good priced 775 mobo that you recommend?
Robin#5845: it can be both ddr2 and ddr3
Robin#5845: either*
SuSSudio#2688: hmm.. X48 is a bit pricey at this point, the value is rather poor
SuSSudio#2688: Perhaps P45 based mobos will get you
Robin#5845: yeah idk why 775 motherboards are so expensive
Robin#5845: like the oem ones are cheap but i dont need an oem
SuSSudio#2688: it's because it's getting rare
Robin#5845: really?
SuSSudio#2688: it is, only the lower ends like G41, G31 sells pretty cheap
SuSSudio#2688: P45 & X48 were the shit back then...
SuSSudio#2688: & some nForce mobos
JustinXenyx#8854: the good 775 mobos are getting rare |
JustinXenyx#8854: the shit ones are getting even cheaper
JustinXenyx#8854: but 775 in general isn't worth it anymore
JustinXenyx#8854: you can usually get a 1155 mobo for the same price as a 775 mobo
SuSSudio#2688: ^^^
if you want overclocking advantages..
cheaper Z77 & Z68 boards are roughly the same price as X48 mobos
Tinybox#9112: (Currently no Computer, but my laptop)
Option 1: Wait for Navi and Ryzen 3000, and hack up a temporary solution.
Option 2: Buy an i5 3570k + p67 deluxe mobo for 40 bucks, and so start building
JustinXenyx#8854: I think Option 2 is pretty decent value for money, even with Ryzen 3000 coming out soon @Tinybox
RandomTacos#3695: How much do you guys think I could get out of my pc if i sell it? Specs: Ryzen 7 1700, AB350 Gaming itx/ac, 16gb 3200mhz corsair vengeance rgb pro, Zotac GTX 1070 mini, EVGA 750GQ PSU, 1tb Crucial mx500 ssd
TheGeekster#8508: Very much depends on your local used prices, look around at other gaming PC's for sale in your area to kinda gauge how much, unless you're happy to ship at which point ebay etc will work pretty well, what country/area?
RandomTacos#3695: US, midwest
RandomTacos#3695: I'd be willing to ship it |
TheGeekster#8508: I'd check ebay then, look at prices for similar spec'd systems, and possibly see if you could make more money by parting the system out, selling the cpu, motherboard, ram, gpu etc seperately might net you more money in the end
RandomTacos#3695: That's what I was thinking of doing since it's not running in a case
Sulphurite#3623: @JustinXenyx would a Corsair VS450 be good?
JustinXenyx#8854: It would be more than decent for what you're using it for @Sulphurite
JustinXenyx#8854: wouldn't recommend putting that into a PC, but you have a pretty low power load either way
Sulphurite#3623: So what , can i get something with a lower wattage from corsair than this?
JustinXenyx#8854: You could easily get away with a VS350 and still have decent overhead
TheFifthAce#4128: aerocool > vs
JadeWasTaken#6479: Should I get a gtx 960 or a 970 they are both 4gb.
RandomTacos#3695: 970
JadeWasTaken#6479: Ok.
RandomTacos#3695: Would reccomend something newer tbh
TheFifthAce#4128: rx 480
MythologicalZ#3752: 970 is alright
MythologicalZ#3752: But it's more expensive than a lot of 470/570s and even 488s |
Perms 🎃🎃#3092: one amazing use for a dead gpu is to use it as a ruler. trust me its amazing
revolt_ed#2519: does anyone know why i would have 100% CPU usage?
RandomTacos#3695: Look in task manager
GoldenSky#4649: ^ Windows 10's a bitch
GoldenSky#4649: It's either doing an antivirus scan or Windows Update
Deinsti#5907: Or Microsoft Telemetry
TheFifthAce#4128: or onedrive
JustinXenyx#8854: i've told windows to fuck off and do neither except when i say so :Hahahahaha:
TheFifthAce#4128: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/bun509/according_to_someone_on_chiphell_with_access_to/
TheFifthAce#4128: @SuSSudio
TheFifthAce#4128: "Lowest possible fps is still slightly higher than toothpaste"
GoldenSky#4649: Nah, Telemetry wouldn't make the CPU go to 100%
SuSSudio#2688: @TheFifthAce Just seen that in a group post in a social media. While it's sort of a good news, i'd take it with grain of salt until the reviews came.
TheFifthAce#4128: ye
SuSSudio#2688: Anyways i'm a bit pissed off today.. Wasted 2GB of data just for a FAILED WIN 10 UPDATE. |
It was the 10 1809 feature update. I've had a bad feeling about it when it stuck at 84% download shortly before.
TheGeekster#8508: mobile data? or does your internet have a cap?
SuSSudio#2688: I use a 4G broadband internet, prepaid plan
SuSSudio#2688: I just spent $3 smth on it just yesterday...
SuSSudio#2688: Now it's only less than 4GB left out of 10GB. Yes it used 3GB prior.
TheGeekster#8508: Ah fuck, ouch, yeah windows is a bit cunty when it comes to using data
TheGeekster#8508: the update mechanism is so inefficient in how it downloads, i've got a leased line at our office, and it'll still randomly fail, and have to redownloading the whole thing
SuSSudio#2688: Yeah, i mean, PLEASE bring back our privileges to pause the fucking updates
jay1185#0112: I concur. On my win10 pc, updates often fail and have to restart.
SuSSudio#2688: So i can review it before it's too late
TheGeekster#8508: if you set your internet to "limited" it might sotp it automatically downloading sometimes
TheGeekster#8508: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/583658459791360013/unknown.png
TheGeekster#8508: 😦 i realise sending images to help probably just ate more data, sorry
SuSSudio#2688: Might try that |
SuSSudio#2688: No your screenshot is only KB's
SuSSudio#2688: Before you advise me to switch to fiber postpaid internet, no. No providers reached my rural area yet. So i'm kinda stuck with this prepaid plan.
TheFifthAce#4128: just switch to switch to fiber postpaid internet
TheFifthAce#4128: fuck
TheFifthAce#4128: I messed it up
TheFifthAce#4128: @SuSSudio as saucy as zen 2 looks, ice lake looks pretty saucy too, having a gaming laptop that's just an igpu is :GWempMoan:
SuSSudio#2688: @TheFifthAce Yeah the graphics capability sure looks interesting for low power laptops, but amd's yet to answer that
TheFifthAce#4128: it's not the biggest improvement over the 2400g, but its still an improvement
TheFifthAce#4128: but zen+/navi apus will prolly outdo ice lake
TheFifthAce#4128: but I doubt AMD will take the mobile market by storm, intel is just perfect at low power high performance CPUs
SuSSudio#2688: I'm pretty sure on that, it's gonna be interesting fight eventually...
SuSSudio#2688: True
SuSSudio#2688: You know what, this pops up thought on me...
How about letting AMD dominate the PC gaming & probably server market while Intel holding the mobile market... |
TheFifthAce#4128: that'd be perfect tbh
TheFifthAce#4128: you know what would be more perfect
TheFifthAce#4128: competition
TheFifthAce#4128: instead of monopolies
TheGeekster#8508: It's a shame everything related to x86 and x64 is fucking locked down to two companies, no on else will ever be able to get near it, and by the time they can, it'll move onto x128 or what ever is next
TheGeekster#8508: patents have destroyed the open market, but are a necessary evil
SuSSudio#2688: Yeah, both categories has its demands. People needs to finish tasks efficiently on the go while finishing quicker on their desktops at home, so is as the convenient entertainment system.
SuSSudio#2688: Server stations has to fullfill requests as fast & as efficiently possible as they consistently gets requested to encrypt & decrypt, processing data & all sorts of stuff by billions of billions clients.
TheFifthAce#4128: @TheGeekster arm has 86 doesnt it
TheFifthAce#4128: :ThonkEyes:
TheFifthAce#4128: or at least permissions for it
revolt_ed#2519: windows 10 is such a bitch
revolt_ed#2519: ive now got high memory usage, is that a case of getting some more ram?
TheFifthAce#4128: just get an ssd and use it as a scratch disk for page file :ULTRAKEK:
SuSSudio#2688: How much RAM you got rn? |
SuSSudio#2688: _silently screams disabling unnecessary features & services_
revolt_ed#2519: 8gb
revolt_ed#2519: what are some features i can get rid of
Tinybox#9112: the more memory you have the more windows 10 uses
Tinybox#9112: :Smart:
jay1185#0112: <--Just wiped my laptop and went back to Windows 7. 10 is Satan...
TheFifthAce#4128: 7 is awful
jay1185#0112: 7 is Mecca.
TheFifthAce#4128: less features, support being dropped, straight up doesn't work with Ryzen, etc
jay1185#0112: less features is better. i don't need any of that garbage windows 10 introduced...
Tinybox#9112: Instead of baashing Windows 7
Tinybox#9112: or windows 10
Tinybox#9112: settle for the middle
Tinybox#9112: Windows 8.1 :GWbowsuBlobGuns:
jay1185#0112: windows Tablet? |
jay1185#0112: aka 8.1
Tinybox#9112: 8.1 is like windows 10
Tinybox#9112: but less annoying
jay1185#0112: but i don't have a touchscreen.
Tinybox#9112: and less aggresive with updates
Tinybox#9112: um jaybird?
Tinybox#9112: 8.1 was for desktop..
jay1185#0112: it sure doesn't seem like it lol
Tinybox#9112: you prob thinking of windows 8
Tinybox#9112: 8.1 is really different from 8
Tinybox#9112: by a lot
jay1185#0112: i've used both 8 and 8.1
Tinybox#9112: Weird then?
Tinybox#9112: I really like 8.1
Tinybox#9112: for the short time I got to use it |
Tinybox#9112: Although I sure do like the interface of 10 more
jay1185#0112: I absolutely hate the UI of 8, 8.1 and 10
jay1185#0112: but i'm an old fart lol
Rinis#2222: I made a pornhub account on my teacher's e-mail
Rinis#2222: I feel very satisfied
jay1185#0112: lol wtf rincy
Rinis#2222: Yea lol
Rinis#2222: Now we wait
Rinis#2222: I like 7 too Jay
jay1185#0112: is school still in where you're at?
Rinis#2222: Whatchu mean
jay1185#0112: i don't know how school works where you are, unless you're in university, the elementary and high school kids are out for the summer.
Rinis#2222: Ah yea I have 5 more weeks 'for summer break
jay1185#0112: ahh
JustinXenyx#8854: I like 7, i like 10, but Windows 8 can go can itself |
Deinsti#5907: 8 was shoit but 8.1 with Classic desktop is a masterpiece
Jam#0384: 8.1 is alright
Jam#0384: 10 is okay
Jam#0384: 7 is good
Jam#0384: XP is decent
TheFifthAce#4128: 7 is bad
TheFifthAce#4128: 10 is good
TheFifthAce#4128: 3.1 is best
Jam#0384: 3.1 isn't that good.
Jam#0384: 98SE and 95 both crush 3.1
TheFifthAce#4128: 3.1 best
TheFifthAce#4128: https://i.imgur.com/cbhf6hv.png
Jam#0384: That's a SSD?
Jam#0384: Looks like a fucking GPU or like secondary compute unit/accelerator lmao
Jam#0384: It's a erm... PhysX card lmao |
JustinXenyx#8854: they need a really good controller for that kinda SSD, probably has a decent heatsink on it
Jam#0384: It looks like a secondary processing unit or accelerator or PhysX card though, right?
Jam#0384: Reminds me of the good ol days
JustinXenyx#8854: it looks like a old blower style graphics card, like a RX480 reference
Jam#0384: It does.
Jam#0384: But its a little small
Jam#0384: Well actually not too far from the normal size of a GPU
Sulphurite#3623: What
Sulphurite#3623: If you tell me that is a ssd , you are in the year 2030
TheGeekster#8508: It's a SSD board thar raids together multiple nvme drives probably, that or just a fucking big ass SSD
TheGeekster#8508: they've been around in servers for years
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/583719060068368620/20190530_191100.jpg
Deleted User#0000: Anyone know what this is ?
Deleted User#0000: my mobo is stuck on it
Deinsti#5907: bios of shitty school computer |
Deinsti#5907: Hate aside; do you get like BIOS beep codes suggesting whats wrong?
Deinsti#5907: Or is it silent
TheGeekster#8508: That could be a windwos 10 boot screen too getting stuck
TheFifthAce#4128: lads, I have an optiplex 3010, it works with an i5 2500k, and an i5 3450, but doesn't boot with an i7 2600, is it a vrm thing or a bios update thing or
MythologicalZ#3752: Is the CPU working?Might be that
MythologicalZ#3752: Given it works with Ivy it should work with the 2600
MythologicalZ#3752: Unless they TDP limit to i5s
TheFifthAce#4128: might be tdp limited
TheFifthAce#4128: random dell forum says the max is an i5 3450
TheFifthAce#4128: but I've seen i7 2600s in 3010s before
TheFifthAce#4128: linustechtips forum says that its compatible :thonk:
dawson27500#6969: Cpu is prolly dead
TheFifthAce#4128: I mean, there's a recent chipset driver on dell.com
TheFifthAce#4128: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
TheFifthAce#4128: I mean I got it for free |
TheFifthAce#4128: I think
TheFifthAce#4128: I can't remember xd
TheFifthAce#4128: I'm getting an i7 4790 later for 55$
TheFifthAce#4128: not like it matters
MythologicalZ#3752: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/583727583888146446/optiplex_3010_technical_guidebook.pdf
MythologicalZ#3752: Seems like an i5 limit
TheFifthAce#4128: huh
TheFifthAce#4128: ok
TheFifthAce#4128: so I need a 7010 for this 2600 then
MythologicalZ#3752: Probably something to do with Tdps and shit VRMs
TheFifthAce#4128: yeah prolly
TheFifthAce#4128: 3450 isnt bad though
MythologicalZ#3752: Yeah defs still decent for the money
TheFifthAce#4128: got it for free
TheFifthAce#4128: ;) |
MythologicalZ#3752: :TheGoods:
TheFifthAce#4128: also
TheFifthAce#4128: I love how it only specifies the i5 3450
TheFifthAce#4128: I put a 2500k in it and it works fine
TheFifthAce#4128: :ULTRAKEK:
TheFifthAce#4128: @MythologicalZ myth
TheFifthAce#4128: that's not the limit for the chipset
TheFifthAce#4128: :facepalm:
TheFifthAce#4128: that's the configs they come in
MythologicalZ#3752: :thinking_peter:
MythologicalZ#3752: Wack
MythologicalZ#3752: Well tbh
MythologicalZ#3752: Given that's the configs
TheFifthAce#4128: yeah I doubt a 2600 would be a good idea
TheFifthAce#4128: it does come with the 90w cooler though, so that's pretty sex |
JustinXenyx#8854: the 3010's mobo is more than capable of powering a stock 2600
JustinXenyx#8854: dunno why it wouldn't work tbh, i could bet i've even built a i7 2600 optiplex 3010 system myself
TheFifthAce#4128: I bet I either mounted it wrong or the cpu is dead
TheFifthAce#4128: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
TheFifthAce#4128: I'll just use the i5 3450
Daze#8232: Hi guys I'm asking you a question,why does my pc stays so cool even when I'm playing? My gpu doesn't heat up more than 50°C and neither my cpu does it. Actually I noticed my mobo stays always at 24°C. Is that normal?
Deinsti#5907: Depends on the game your playing
Deinsti#5907: For more lightweight games, I would say it's actually somewhat normal
Daze#8232: I'm actually playing quite heavy games for my pc such as steep.
TheGeekster#8508: eh good cooling
MythologicalZ#3752: Or lower power parts
MythologicalZ#3752: I'm assuming you've got a 7750
Daze#8232: Probably it's because of lower power parts.
MythologicalZ#3752: Fairly power efficient
Daze#8232: My athlon has 95w of tdp and my 7750 has 55w of tdp |
Daze#8232: And actually my hd 7750 even if I disable the block of ufficial overclocking still doesn't change anything at all. The clocks remain the same.
Jam#0384: A 7770 would be better for roughly the same price?
Jam#0384: So why a 7750?
SuSSudio#2688: :sad_peter: It looks like my HDD is failing
SuSSudio#2688: I heard strange humming noises every 25 secs or so
SuSSudio#2688: System became unresponsive post the humming noises, gets back to normal several seconds after
Jam#0384: Fun!
Gamefreak924#5901: I'm having an issue where my middle mouse button will open duplicates of the same tab (up to 4 times) when using it, and it'll also get stuck sometimes if I want to click it to fast scroll. I will usually have to click it a couple of times before fast scroll disables. This happens in any browser and even discord when testing it. Mouse model is M056U0A.
JustinXenyx#8854: @Jam he got it for free as far as i know
TheGeekster#8508: @Gamefreak924 That, would be a dying mouse, try it on another system, if it does the same, dead mouse
Palms#7772: What should i replace my 1050 ti with
TheGeekster#8508: I mean what do you want to play? What screen resolution do you have? and how much money?
Palms#7772: i was planning to go 4k
Palms#7772: i am getting paid a large sum of money on monday so budget isnt that much of an issue
Palms#7772: i need a 4k monitor but i'd rather get the hardware first |
TheGeekster#8508: 2080ti it is then
Palms#7772: oh, right. gpu's are expensive as fuck in aus
Palms#7772: maybe like , 1200 aud for a gpu
Palms#7772: i could get a 2080 for 1300
Palms#7772: idk if i need the TI, i need to buy studio gear aswell with my money
TheGeekster#8508: Well, 4K gaming is EXPENSIVE as fuck, to maintain at least a stable 60fps, tbh it's not really worth it yet unless you get a 32-40" very high quality screen
TheGeekster#8508: i'd honestly just aim for bang-for-your-buck 1080p on a really nice screen
Palms#7772: so get like, a 1080 ti and a decent screen?
Palms#7772: my local part shop has 1080 ti's still
MythologicalZ#3752: 1080tis are good cards and should be alright for most 4K shite
Palms#7772: so go that and a nice screen?
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah
MythologicalZ#3752: 2080ti is way too expensive to be practical
Palms#7772: ooft i might need a new PSU aswell
Palms#7772: idk what mine is, i think 500w? |
MythologicalZ#3752: What are your other specs?
Palms#7772: r6 2600 16gb ddr4
MythologicalZ#3752: Ntb
MythologicalZ#3752: Just get a new PSU then
Palms#7772: any reccomendations?
Palms#7772: on brand or whatever?
MythologicalZ#3752: Something that has a rating from a good company,FSP,EVGA etc
MythologicalZ#3752: I'd aim for a 650w
Palms#7772: alright, ty
Palms#7772: have to wait until monday but im super excited
Tinybox#9112: 1440p144hz :GWmythsBlobPresent:
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: heya
Tinybox#9112: Thinking whether its worth it rushing to complete my PC
and buying a nice R9 390 8GB with accelero
and sacrificing getting a K 2nd gen |
Tinybox#9112: And instead settling for a 2500, in an oem
Deinsti#5907: @Tinybox Are you planning to play modern games?
Tinybox#9112: yea
Jam#0384: Or,
Jam#0384: You could go 1440p
Jam#0384: With something like a GTX 1080/Ti or RTX 2070/2080
Jam#0384: Or Vega 64
Tinybox#9112: if I can afford one that is
Jam#0384: Was talking about the madlad who wanted to go 4K
Jam#0384: 4K isn't worth it
Tinybox#9112: meh 4k gaming isnt
Jam#0384: My PC can hardly handle 4K on most newer games at the High (not Ultra or Highest settings lmao)
Jam#0384: 4K is far too demanding for a realistic upgrade schedule and what an average consumer could afford
Jam#0384: 1440p is maintainable within a standard 2-4 year upgrade schedule
Jam#0384: 1080p will last you longer, with the issue being that 1080p isn't as high resolution. |
Jam#0384: 1080p feels blurry to me after going 1440p
Jam#0384: Not bad, but i need to adjust to using it
Tinybox#9112: @Deinsti What do you think I should do?
Deinsti#5907: Since you want modern games I would say better CPU
Tinybox#9112: hm alright. Welp I can try go new CPU.
Deinsti#5907: Cause now games are demanding more CPU power than GPU (though that's still important)
Tinybox#9112: I'd get the 2400G, then sell the game pack
Deinsti#5907: And on older 1155 you will stutter
Deinsti#5907: I had that issue with the i5 3330
Deinsti#5907: Though preferably I would say get i7
Tinybox#9112: alright then.
Tinybox#9112: Welp there is a listing for a 7700k + gtx 970 with some samsung monitor for 130 bucks.
It's worth it but out of budget. dont know why im typing this
Deinsti#5907: Bid or purchase on the spot?
Tinybox#9112: Purchase on the spot |
Tinybox#9112: listing just popped up.
Tinybox#9112: non negotiable
Deinsti#5907: Heck that's a great deal considering the 7700k alone goes for around 300bucks
Tinybox#9112: HOLY DAMN
Tinybox#9112: why is it so expensive?
Deinsti#5907: *It's 7th gen*
Deinsti#5907: And it's a fantastic cpu
JustinXenyx#8854: ain't intel still super slacking with 14nm stock?
Deinsti#5907: @JustinXenyx They're slowly going 10nm
Tinybox#9112: BUT LIKE 8TH GEN 8600ks are cheaper
Tinybox#9112: ah who cares
Deinsti#5907: 7700 are somewhat in high demand
Tinybox#9112: But why that?
Tinybox#9112: people upgrading?
Deinsti#5907: They used to be popular for being cheap and powerful |
Deinsti#5907: But now the price shot up and hence the current situation
Tinybox#9112: I'm kinda tempted to go for it
Tinybox#9112: and then sell it
Tinybox#9112: for more
Tinybox#9112: o.o guy put the price to 150
Tinybox#9112: just now
Tinybox#9112: anyway
Tinybox#9112: @Deinsti Ever sold something on G2a?
Tinybox#9112: or Kinguin
JustinXenyx#8854: G2A is known for being a scam site, Kinguin is practially the same as G2A but without the shitty reputation
Tinybox#9112: Yea I'm considering buying an R5 2400g then selling the game pack
Tinybox#9112: to down cost it
Tinybox#9112: If I succesfully sell the games close to what they are being sold rn on Kinguin or G2a
Tinybox#9112: I'd fit in my budget
Tinybox#9112: I can take in the initial "minus" |
Tinybox#9112: Or waiting for it to be sold
Tinybox#9112: I bet I could sell it for 70 bucks https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/584075087221620747/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: as the gold edition is essentially all this
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/584076091388592129/unknown.png
Deinsti#5907: @Tinybox You could try selling it on eBay
Tinybox#9112: @Deinsti I think it would be hard to sell it on ebay
Deinsti#5907: It's not that difficult
Deinsti#5907: People do buy codes from eBay
Deinsti#5907: Or I guess you can list on Amazon if that's better for you
Tinybox#9112: Damn it
Tinybox#9112: no listing on amazon for it so far
Tinybox#9112: Only the normal the division 2
Tinybox#9112: Can't value check it
Tinybox#9112: On ebay though
Tinybox#9112: the cheapest listing for it is 45 bucks |
Tinybox#9112: Can you make listings on Kinguin? Or G2a
Tinybox#9112: for games they dont have?
Deinsti#5907: You probably can but personally I wouldn't use their site
Miracle☆#0118: Hey, anybody here experienced with X99 overclocking?
Miracle☆#0118: and could help me oc my 5820k?
JustinXenyx#8854: @MythologicalZ big smelly man, this dude needs your help :Hahahahaha:
MythologicalZ#3752: Haha,yes
MythologicalZ#3752: What board and cooling? @Miracle☆
MythologicalZ#3752: Generally for a quick OC you do 1.3v and 4.4 on 5820Ks
MythologicalZ#3752: 240mm aio or a decent dual tower will handle it
Miracle☆#0118: @MythologicalZ GA-X99M GAMING 5 - Noctua U14S
Miracle☆#0118: also what? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/584097308560588822/JPEG_20190531_201400.jpg
MythologicalZ#3752: Board should handle it,cooler should also be fine
MythologicalZ#3752: Uhh,haven't run 7 in a long time
MythologicalZ#3752: Generally that's an install gone bad |
Miracle☆#0118: also its running 4.5ghz @1.3 tried to run 4.7gjz @1.35 and thst happened
Miracle☆#0118: it's windows 10 lmao
MythologicalZ#3752: Wack,looks like the 7 error
MythologicalZ#3752: If 1.35 and 4.7 doesn't fly,try upto 1.375 on air or maybe try tuning SA voltages
thatubuntuguy#5914: @Deinsti 7" or 5.5"
MythologicalZ#3752: You messing with RAM speeds or is that still stock?
Deinsti#5907: As in what screen to get?
Deinsti#5907: Or what
Deinsti#5907: @thatubuntuguy
Miracle☆#0118: my RAMs stock 2133mhz no XMP (was planning to tune ram after cpu is set)
Miracle☆#0118: yeah I think I've fucked my windows install
Miracle☆#0118: Do you think turning off psu might've corrupted it?
TheGeekster#8508: if it was booting at the time, possibly
TheGeekster#8508: especially if it was trying to do updates
thatubuntuguy#5914: which screen @Deinsti |
thatubuntuguy#5914: final decision
thatubuntuguy#5914: 5.5" for lower cost, higher ppi, higher res
Miracle☆#0118: yeah I tried to turn it off but it went weird at lockscreen as if it froze so i hard reset
thatubuntuguy#5914: 7" for better usability, bigger battery, easier making of product
thatubuntuguy#5914: longer battery life
Miracle☆#0118: Now i need to make a boot usb
thatubuntuguy#5914: but it wont fit in my pocket
Deinsti#5907: Hmm
Deinsti#5907: @thatubuntuguy Get bigger pockets
thatubuntuguy#5914: hm
thatubuntuguy#5914: but then itll kinda be a gpd pocket clone
thatubuntuguy#5914: i want it to be a lil different
thatubuntuguy#5914: okay i guess 7 inches it is unless i can find a capacitive overlay for the 5.5
Deinsti#5907: But having it 5.5" basically restricts you to having a physical mouse of some sort
thatubuntuguy#5914: yeah because i managed to find a 7" overlay |
thatubuntuguy#5914: but the 7" screen is MORE expensive than a 5.5" 2k screen Whaaaa?
Deinsti#5907: Depends on how it's manufactured I guess
thatubuntuguy#5914: i can get a driver board for £28
thatubuntuguy#5914: so if i can find the lcd for like £30 that's fine with me
SussyBalls#4615: 2k on a 5.5 inch display? is 1080p not fine?
Deinsti#5907: That's what he found for sale
Miracle☆#0118: @MythologicalZ hey - it was just my boot order resetting lol
MythologicalZ#3752: Aight,you try more vcore?1.35 for 4.7 generally should be doable
Miracle☆#0118: Doing that right now
Miracle☆#0118: disabled fast boot so less messups rebooting hopefully
Miracle☆#0118: iirc last time I tried this I needed 1.4v which makes a really hot cpu
MythologicalZ#3752: 1.4v on air is a bit far tbh
Miracle☆#0118: good so far, in windows
MythologicalZ#3752: I'd say max 1.375 for a cooler like yours
Miracle☆#0118: I agree |
Miracle☆#0118: it's mainly the more indepth stuff i need help with beyond the vcore and coreclk
JustinXenyx#8854: 2k is 1080p? @SussyBalls
Miracle☆#0118: 2k is 1440p
SussyBalls#4615: isn't it 1440p??
JustinXenyx#8854: no, thats 2.5k
JustinXenyx#8854: 2560x1440, not 2000x1440
SussyBalls#4615: wtf my life is a lie
Miracle☆#0118: ^^
Miracle☆#0118: you feel smart now professor resolution ;p
JustinXenyx#8854: while 1920x1080 isn't full 2k, its the closest 16:9 equivalent and thats why a lot of people call it 2k
Miracle☆#0118: Need's more vcore? @MythologicalZ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/584106392814878723/JPEG_20190531_204959.jpg
JustinXenyx#8854: just like how commercial 4k isn't 4000 pixels, its 3840 lol
Miracle☆#0118: good to know it boots at 1.35
MythologicalZ#3752: Yeah,I'd try 1.36 next
Miracle☆#0118: yeah, I remember people going apeshit over Linus' 8k setup i believe |
Miracle☆#0118: is any of this useful? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/584106780515106826/JPEG_20190531_205137.jpg
Miracle☆#0118: 1.365 gives us a bsd
Miracle☆#0118: probably will be around 1.37v - any other things i can tweak other than vcore? @"Cobs"
"Cobs"#1150: :que:
Miracle☆#0118: like ring voltage?
JustinXenyx#8854: HAHAHA
JustinXenyx#8854: wrong ping lmao
"Cobs"#1150: you meant to ping myth?
JustinXenyx#8854: @MythologicalZ
Miracle☆#0118: fuck im retarded
Miracle☆#0118: I typed cobs and thouggt he changed name, my bad
"Cobs"#1150: lmao
MythologicalZ#3752: Try 1.375 and see if there's any real difference,seen some people get better stability
MythologicalZ#3752: Might also be worth looking at what LLC settings your board has
Miracle☆#0118: OK, think I'll have to whip out a ps2 keyboard |
Miracle☆#0118: because tkl not optimised for overclocking
Miracle☆#0118: Right last try on 4.7 with 1.38v now - think I'm pushing the limits here
Miracle☆#0118: even increasing in 0.005v increments I'm seeing the same results
Miracle☆#0118: @MythologicalZ nah it's hit a wall, vcore is doing nothing
Miracle☆#0118: I'm gonna check llc
Tinybox#9112: So you guys have told me this a lot and all.
But Ryzen isn't "that good" for 144hz gaming? Because of core to core latency 🤔 if I got it right
Miracle☆#0118: If I were to increase bclk - could i reduce my pcie clock (and mem if needed) to run a higher cpu clk whilst keeping the other clocks (close to) stock?
Miracle☆#0118: That sucks as I was hoping to get ryzen 3, I need to research though
JustinXenyx#8854: Yup, Intel has better core to core latency, which provides more stable frametimes, which are needed for high refresh rate gaming
Miracle☆#0118: so for gaming folk just get an Intel system
Miracle☆#0118: but fps wise ryzen 3 is poised to beat the 9900K
Miracle☆#0118: but I guess it's a matter of whether latency > fps
Miracle☆#0118: but then ryzen 3 could have better latency, I'll stop talking about imaginary hardware
Miracle☆#0118: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/584130485463285771/unknown.png |
Miracle☆#0118: @MythologicalZ I set vrin llc to highest along with pwn phase control and I could run 1.46ghz whereas before - on same vcore - it was bsd
Miracle☆#0118: oh sorry for the pings, just sharing with you my excitement
MythologicalZ#3752: Nice, what's your vrin value though?
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I got a free s7 but the digitiser is gone
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Does anyone know if I can connect it to a computer to see what's on the screen
MythologicalZ#3752: Might be able to lower temps a tad if you're pushing above 0.5+ from your vcore voltages
JustinXenyx#8854: have fun replacing the entire screen lmao @Jamie.Cullen
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Why lol
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I can prob replace the back glass myself
JustinXenyx#8854: digitizer/display glass replacements are super unpractical and super hard if you don't have the proper experience and tools to do them
Jamie.Cullen#8363: @JustinXenyx do you know if Samsung have a warranty
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Because the phones only a year old according to the S/N
JustinXenyx#8854: i think its has like a year of warranty for hw faults
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Hmm
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Might ask someone to see if they can replace it |
Jamie.Cullen#8363: A digitiser is apparently €80?
Miracle☆#0118: @MythologicalZ That's it lol https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/584133716398440467/JPEG_20190531_223829.jpg
Miracle☆#0118: I think my cpu is being bottlenecked by ram, after all it's stock @ 2133mhz
Miracle☆#0118: which explains why upping vcore doesn't make it stable
MythologicalZ#3752: Mhm,I'd look into what your board does LLC wise, Extreme settings might be fucky over time
Miracle☆#0118: okay, what are the risks?
MythologicalZ#3752: Degredation over time since you're messing with voltages
Miracle☆#0118: aight, what does llc do? I thought it reduced vdroop so that the cpu actually runs closer to set voltage?
MythologicalZ#3752: Either lowers or pushes it higher depending on the situation
MythologicalZ#3752: https://www.pcgamer.com/what-is-load-line-calibration-in-my-bios-and-how-can-i-use-it/
Not the best source but it's a decent summary
Miracle☆#0118: cheers
Miracle☆#0118: Right that makes sense now
Miracle☆#0118: gonna research memory overclocking and get my vengeance lpx 3000 CL15 up to spec
MythologicalZ#3752: :TheGoods: |
MythologicalZ#3752: Have fun
Miracle☆#0118: Thank you - boi she feels a lot faster now at 4.6ghz - I AM SPEED
Miracle☆#0118: And thanks a ton for the advice
MythologicalZ#3752: Np
JustinXenyx#8854: small voltage changes probably won't make a difference (like going up 0.005v) because of vdroop
Miracle☆#0118: as I've learned, perhaps more effective with more aggresive LLC settings?
Jamie.Cullen#8363: @JustinXenyx
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I was wrong it's an A5 2017
JustinXenyx#8854: well tbf, they do look pretty alike
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Exactly
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Wonder what the difference is in slec
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Spec
Jamie.Cullen#8363: It's such a good phone wtf
Jamie.Cullen#8363: @JustinXenyx nothing comes up on the Screen when I press the power button but the bottom lights shine
Jamie.Cullen#8363: @Tech Helper |
Miracle☆#0118: @MythologicalZ I've hit another wall, tried setting my kit to the jedec standards - 3GHZ @1.35v 15-17-17-35 but nada
Miracle☆#0118: kept same timing and voltage and dropped to both 2.8ghz and 2.6ghz but still nothing
Miracle☆#0118: doesn't even post
MythologicalZ#3752: Strange,does 2400 work stable? Generally anything upto 3K works fine on X99
MythologicalZ#3752: Especially if it's got it baked in
Miracle☆#0118: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/584153471276548097/JPEG_20190531_235700.jpg
Miracle☆#0118: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/584153597961437269/JPEG_20190531_235725.jpg
Miracle☆#0118: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/584153676139200523/JPEG_20190531_235756.jpg
Miracle☆#0118: My setting's
Miracle☆#0118: ok 2400 posts
MythologicalZ#3752: Honestly don't see why it would be having issues above 2400
MythologicalZ#3752: Not a big memory guy unfortunately, usually also just set my rated speeds and forget about it
Miracle☆#0118: man this is retarded, what about increasing mem controller voltage
Miracle☆#0118: it's also a 2x8gb kit so not even that hard on mem controller
russ_the_b#5525: ok so i got a "new" pc and my screen doesnt have a dvi in so i tried to remove the gpu to boot from onboard graphics in the process i pressed the CMOS button by mistake i stil dont have display rn is that a problem? |
Miracle☆#0118: does your cpu have an igpu?
russ_the_b#5525: yes
russ_the_b#5525: its a i3 3420
Miracle☆#0118: CMOS would help you if anything
Miracle☆#0118: take out the battery
russ_the_b#5525: it still doesn't send a display
russ_the_b#5525: output
Miracle☆#0118: I had same issue on a laptop and a desktop, both igpus and resetting cmos helped well, changing the battery
Miracle☆#0118: sound's retarded but can you change the battery?
russ_the_b#5525: its a tower and now it runs, turns off, runs again and then beeps "it has an onboard speaker" and i dont hear a windows boot noise anymore
russ_the_b#5525: i didn't remove the dedicated gpu btw
Miracle☆#0118: oh, no do that
russ_the_b#5525: do or dont remove the gpu?
Miracle☆#0118: remove your video card as that will be displaying
Miracle☆#0118: not your igpu hence why black screen |
russ_the_b#5525: oh ok
russ_the_b#5525: here we to the 2nd problem
russ_the_b#5525: its a hp compaq 6300 with a zotac gtx 750
russ_the_b#5525: idk how to remove it
Miracle☆#0118: take off side panel
russ_the_b#5525: it wont budge and i am scared to pull it with force
Miracle☆#0118: send picture pls
russ_the_b#5525: one second
Miracle☆#0118: OEM chassis are quite funny to open in some cases
russ_the_b#5525: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/584156336929898496/20190531_221953.jpg
russ_the_b#5525: i will send another one this doesnt help much
Miracle☆#0118: can you send picture of back
Miracle☆#0118: where the io ports are
Miracle☆#0118: pretty sure there's a latch on the right side of that picture where pcie brackets are
russ_the_b#5525: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/584156850522685473/20190601_010958.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/584156850522685476/20190601_011010.jpg |
Miracle☆#0118: it's common for pcie cards to be held in by a plate pressing on them instead of screws
russ_the_b#5525: wait i will open the latch and send a pic
Miracle☆#0118: yeah open the latch then you'll see the tops of the gpu pcie bracket (where you'd normally put screws in)
Miracle☆#0118: then you slide out
russ_the_b#5525: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/584157188810080256/20190601_011138.jpg
russ_the_b#5525: sorry its flipped
russ_the_b#5525: now what do?
Miracle☆#0118: No you're doing great
Miracle☆#0118: that's it
Miracle☆#0118: you can take the card out
russ_the_b#5525: i can lift the entire case and it wont move
russ_the_b#5525: nvm
Miracle☆#0118: use one hand to grab the whole card and another to like disengage the latch next to pcie slot
russ_the_b#5525: i stupid i had to pull back not up
Miracle☆#0118: yeah it's like a really big ram stick |
Miracle☆#0118: don't worry about it
russ_the_b#5525: i will send a pic to make sure i didnt break any connectors
Miracle☆#0118: I thought my gpu died once but i forgot to plug in the power cables on the psu side
Miracle☆#0118: nah you won't have
Miracle☆#0118: Just reboot your PC and voila image
russ_the_b#5525: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/584158223234367517/20190601_011511.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/584158224056320010/20190601_011459.jpg
russ_the_b#5525: it doesnt have a power connector
Miracle☆#0118: yeah low power draw cards get power from pcie slot
Miracle☆#0118: which can supply up to 75w iirx
russ_the_b#5525: i thought so aswell
Miracle☆#0118: iirc
Miracle☆#0118: look if you broke something you'd know
Miracle☆#0118: Older stuff especially pretty strong bc thicc PCBs
russ_the_b#5525: nothing is dangling notthing is shaking
russ_the_b#5525: pcb is intact |
Miracle☆#0118: you're good, it's not like you're handling brittle paper
russ_the_b#5525: ok give me a minute and i will boot up
Miracle☆#0118: the most break able thing in a pc i think is cpu socket, which you can straighten pins 9/10 or the connectors on sata drives
russ_the_b#5525: there is display
russ_the_b#5525: windows is booting
russ_the_b#5525: much thanks
Miracle☆#0118: Anytime and you done great
Miracle☆#0118: confidence will come in time when you get more familiar
Miracle☆#0118: respect for doing it yourself and not getting shanked by a repair shop
russ_the_b#5525: honestly tho i would have waited like 8 days to do anything until i have a dvi to vga adapter
russ_the_b#5525: so much thanks still
Miracle☆#0118: np - oh try get an adapter like this, means less stress on video card slot, idk long things bending make me uneasy
Miracle☆#0118: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/584160237582417921/JPEG_20190601_002403.jpg
Miracle☆#0118: bur it really doesn't matter
russ_the_b#5525: yup i just have to wait 8 days because fuckin holidays and shid |
Miracle☆#0118: Rip
russ_the_b#5525: idk why amazon has to do with holidays but whatever
Miracle☆#0118: I know the pain, try waiting a 4 days for thermal pads for gpu and it's like eternity lol
russ_the_b#5525: yeah i should do that actually get some paste and remove the old stuff
Miracle☆#0118: Amazon for the most part are pretty good though
Miracle☆#0118: it's quite fun giving it a Tech YES Cleansing
russ_the_b#5525: yeah i jusy have to go through the next week or so without a gpu
russ_the_b#5525: not a problem if you have lifed with a core2duo for a year +
russ_the_b#5525: :RginHd:
russ_the_b#5525: quick qurstiont tho is it normal to have 2 program files?
Miracle☆#0118: yeah, the x86 folder is for 32bit application's
Miracle☆#0118: regular is 64bit - all it does is just oeganize your programs
russ_the_b#5525: oh i see now
Miracle☆#0118: like you can put a 32bit program into 64bit folder, but that's mad
russ_the_b#5525: i will just leave that alone :Hahahahaha: |
Miracle☆#0118: I've not tried though
russ_the_b#5525: last time i tried program files went to E instead of C idk how
Miracle☆#0118: hmm
Miracle☆#0118: My only explanation would be you installed windows to a drive lettered E
Miracle☆#0118: windows is weird
russ_the_b#5525: it do be like that
russ_the_b#5525: i will stick with the win7 on this machine win 10 has alot of bloatshit
Miracle☆#0118: fair
Miracle☆#0118: you can nuke most of it with powershell scripts though
russ_the_b#5525: so you are recommending win10 and to go through decrapyfing it?
Miracle☆#0118: i mean sure because it's latest support
Miracle☆#0118: i mean it's good for latest updates
Miracle☆#0118: Hey it will keep you busy till you can use your video card again @russ_the_b
russ_the_b#5525: true :Hahahahaha:
Deleted User#0000: yo i need help with true color pro |
Deleted User#0000: its not working for me and i have no idea as to why
SussyBalls#4615: what does the "1% chipset" part mean? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/584453375102550046/unknown.png
MythologicalZ#3752: Probably a bug
MythologicalZ#3752: Also stop using Speccy,it's shit
SussyBalls#4615: ik but it's an ad
JustinXenyx#8854: buggy speccy reading @SussyBalls
stickys.party.hat 《^_^》#2076: Oo @MythologicalZ the card worked at first in the assrock board but now it won't best I can do is get into windows for a few minutes before it stops displaying, even on the beta uefi 2018 asrock bios
stickys.party.hat 《^_^》#2076: The absolute bewest version
stickys.party.hat 《^_^》#2076: Basically if anyone else wants to help, i have an asrock pro4-m h77 motherboard 8 gigs of ram, an i7 3770 and a vega 56 and my vega will display to the bios and then stop or sometimes into windows but then it will randomly stop displaying after a few minutes and the vega is still lit up the fans just stop spinning
stickys.party.hat 《^_^》#2076: Vega is the powercolor blower variant
stickys.party.hat 《^_^》#2076: And the vega is confirmed working in another system with i5 7500 and 8 gigs of ddr4 on an h310 board
stickys.party.hat 《^_^》#2076: Already updated to latest bios
Deleted User#0000: So i managed to dual boot Windows 10 with MacOS
Deleted User#0000: on a windows pc
MythologicalZ#3752: Sounding more and more like a PSU issue,do you have another to test with? @stickys.party.hat 《^_^》 |
stickys.party.hat 《^_^》#2076: Yeah ill try a different psu now
stickys.party.hat 《^_^》#2076: No idea why my 700watt psu does not work with vega and my 450 watt does but the issues are fixed so thanks Mythy
stickys.party.hat 《^_^》#2076: I do not mind having to have gotten the h77 board since the asus board was shit anyway
stickys.party.hat 《^_^》#2076: but damn this was an ordeal only to realize my 700watt evga psu is not delivering enough on the pcie connectors
stickys.party.hat 《^_^》#2076: like bruh
JustinXenyx#8854: what kinda 700w EVGA? @stickys.party.hat 《^_^》
JustinXenyx#8854: could be just a shitty unit tbh
Tinybox#9112: this lil upgrade for my friend seems aight https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/584719261294002177/unknown.png
MythologicalZ#3752: What CPU?
MythologicalZ#3752: Also Armor meme,I'd look for a different card
Tinybox#9112: @MythologicalZ A 1600, he already had it. (Bought it on a sale)
He also already owns a pair of 16GB 3200MHz ddr4
Tinybox#9112: @MythologicalZ And the other RX 580s seem to be decently more expensive, plus he really doesn't care about looks.
MythologicalZ#3752: It's not about looks
Tinybox#9112: If I remember correctly the Armor is an alright cooler for anything GTX 1060ish? |
MythologicalZ#3752: Armor cards flatout suck
Tinybox#9112: right?
MythologicalZ#3752: 1060 =/= 580
JustinXenyx#8854: thats like a 1050 Ti cooler on a RX580
MythologicalZ#3752: ^
Tinybox#9112: A minute
Tinybox#9112: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rKgzK8/powercolor-radeon-rx-580-8gb-video-card-axrx-580-8gbd5-3dhdv2oc This would also be an option but it's 20 bucks more. (Than the "after cost" of the armor)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KQQRsY/gigabyte-radeon-rx-580-8gb-gaming-8g-video-card-gv-rx580gaming-8gd
This one is also kinda of an option but the up front cost is kinda out of budget.
My insentive with taking the Armor was just: This guy probably isn't looking to OC the GPU, plus Polaris doesn't scale so well with clocks (correct me on that if I'm wrong)..But maybe the 20 bucks extra is worth it (for the power color), or paying the extra 20 bucks extra (up front cost for the gigabyte) and 5 bucks on top of the Armors "after cost", (5 bucks more than the armor after both have done mail in rebates)
stickys.party.hat 《^_^》#2076: @JustinXenyx it is a 700 br which was like 30 bucks last black friday so it likely was a shitty unit since my 450 bronze plus used from last year has been doing just fine
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah, thats not a power supply i'd use with a vega
JustinXenyx#8854: not that bad for 30 bucks tho
Tinybox#9112: UM non k i7 2600 30 bucks worth it over an i5 2500k?
JustinXenyx#8854: definitely |
Tinybox#9112: kk
Tinybox#9112: Thinking right now..
Tinybox#9112: z77 and z68 float for about 10 bucks
Tinybox#9112: 40 bucks for both of those#
Tinybox#9112: might be able to snatch 8 gigs of ram for 5 bucks quite a common deal now,#
Tinybox#9112: 45
Tinybox#9112: Can then get an R9 290 8GB for 35-40 bucks with a bit of luck.
Tinybox#9112: And waiting
Tinybox#9112: counting the 40+45 85
Tinybox#9112: Damn it the same seller had an i5 4690! Needed both of em..Agh welp. Guess ill look for another CPU for my bro
Jam#0384: z77 can be $60+ usually
Jam#0384: So IDK where you got those numbers
Jam#0384: A good z77 board is pricccy
Tinybox#9112: @Jam here they are quite cheap
Tinybox#9112: demand aint high |
Jam#0384: Weird
Tinybox#9112: ah wait my bad p67
Tinybox#9112: and 20ish bucks
Tinybox#9112: anoother my bad
Tinybox#9112: i really hope that 4690 guy doesn't pickup that CPU
MythologicalZ#3752: 290 8GB isn't a thing
MythologicalZ#3752: There are some 290x cards with 8GB though
MythologicalZ#3752: 390 and 390x are both default 8GB
SanteRaptor#2609: Could someone help me with an issue im having with my VR headset and libreVR revive?
So my question is, could someone help me find an answer as to why my wmr headsets motion controller buttons dont work in revive from the gibberish that is the issues page https://github.com/LibreVR/Revive/issues?page=1&q=wmr&utf8=%E2%9C%93
Tinybox#9112: @MythologicalZ Yea I meant 290x
MythologicalZ#3752: GL with that then
MythologicalZ#3752: Barely seen 8GB variants
Tinybox#9112: They are quite a few here |
MythologicalZ#3752: Wack, Sapphire cards?
Tinybox#9112: mixed
Tinybox#9112: Majority Sapphire though
Tinybox#9112: specifically the one with 3 fans
Tinybox#9112: and orange?
SanteRaptor#2609: Problem fixed by updating to steam vr beta
Tinybox#9112: I feel like getting this i7 2600.
Tinybox#9112: then flipping it..for 20 bucks more.
Tinybox#9112: Although what can I get better after flipping it? Even when I get the money and wait patiently
Tinybox#9112: i7 4th gen still out of reach
Tinybox#9112: 3rd gen no point
Tinybox#9112: Maybe with patience I can get a 2600k
Tinybox#9112: although if a cheap good z77/z68/p67 mobo poops up
Tinybox#9112: I might be able to push the mutliplier
Tinybox#9112: to its max |
Tinybox#9112: And a bit of BCLK..something like 102-105
MythologicalZ#3752: 3770 can be locked to 4.1 iirc
Tinybox#9112: Or I could get a 3770 instead?
Tinybox#9112: Although for 30 bucks
Tinybox#9112: with shipping
Tinybox#9112: it's not a bad deal
Tinybox#9112: Plus it seems to be a no-loss situation
Tinybox#9112: Although I still wish that 4690 guy doesn't come pickup that CPU lol.
as I can then score a 4690 as well, along with the 2600 and save a lot of time
Tinybox#9112: Although looking at this.
Tinybox#9112: I can get a Ryzen 1200!
Tinybox#9112: If I sell the 2600
Deinsti#5907: @Tinybox The thing being though that the 3770 is actually more powerful than the Ryzen 1200
MythologicalZ#3752: Ryzen gives you an upgrade path though
MythologicalZ#3752: Assuming you pick a good board |
JustinXenyx#8854: i'd make my choice depending on if you plan to keep the rig for long
Deinsti#5907: true
JustinXenyx#8854: if yes, ryzen is definitely the way to go, if not i'd definitely go with the 2600/3770, those would provide some short-term benefits over the R3 1200
Tinybox#9112: 🤔
Tinybox#9112: Ill get the i7 2600 eitherway, as it would give me an open choice.
(If I sell it, I can get a 1200/2600k/3770), (if I keep it..well I keep it.)
Although this PC plan is more or less around future proofing as much as possible, also why I'm going for an R9 390 8GB instead of a 290 4GB and sold the X58 stuff.
Everything is more or less suggesting I sell it, as building a PC currently (If I don't want to wait for anymore DEALs,) would end up being out of budget (If I keep the 2600) , and selling it wouldn't only enable me to get a used 1200 in fact, would also enable me to get it +mobo whilst staying in budget. 🤔
Although..it's debatable would it ***actually*** be cheaper for me to buy into Ryzen NOW. Or later? When the i7 2600 just isn't enough anymore?
If I plan to keep this PC for 4ish Years, or as long as it can play Medium Settings 1080p 60 FPS <that's as low as I'm willing to drop stuff
TheFifthAce#4128: If you're only pairing with a 390, might as well just get a 1200
TheFifthAce#4128: not likely to max out the cpu
TheFifthAce#4128: *if its the same price or cheaper
Miracle☆#0118: @Tinybox gtx970s still get 60+fps in 1080p ultra so the R9 390, with the extra VRAM, Will definitely carry you well
Miracle☆#0118: and yeah, perhaps invest into ryzen 3rd gen and get a cheaper CPU that way you'll have a solid platform which you can easily upgrade into the future if needed |
GoldenSky#4649: Hoes mad https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/584832272813785089/IMG-20190602-WA0013.jpeg
Exomilav#5434: iPhone is h0t
jacqueline#7849: lock it in freezer overnight
jacqueline#7849: 👍
Lady Mipha#0611: 👍
Lady Mipha#0611: Or drop it in a puddle a couple of times
Evvy#0001: sit on it
SuSSudio#2688: Just dip it in a liquid nitrogen, insta cool down
GoldenSky#4649: I'll make a video where I put it in coke and then record my totally genuine reaction when I take it out the next day and it doesn't work
TheFifthAce#4128: now; tr2 rx 850w, how bad of a PSU is it popoga
TheFifthAce#4128: @Rio
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx
TheFifthAce#4128: :skelebuddy:
Rio#1000: @TheFifthAce theres two
TheFifthAce#4128: the older one |
TheFifthAce#4128: I'm getting it for shipping so should I swap it in for my current tr2 700w
TheFifthAce#4128: or keep mine
TheFifthAce#4128: mine is 80+ bronze and that one isnt I dont think
Rio#1000: the rx is afaik
TheFifthAce#4128: so better or no
TheFifthAce#4128: surely good enough for a v56
TheFifthAce#4128: :sadman:
TheFifthAce#4128: @Rio
Rio#1000: same quality
Rio#1000: might as well
TheFifthAce#4128: but vega time?
TheFifthAce#4128: :popoga:
Bertie Kemp#1114: I was playing a game, then my computer crashed and now it wont post?
Miracle☆#0118: @Bertie Kemp have you turned it off and on again?
Insert Name Here#0636: @Bertie Kemp long shot: |
Insert Name Here#0636: either your ram, cpu, motherboard, or psu spontaneously failed
Bertie Kemp#1114: right, it will turn off, and then only turn on again after i unplug the power supply and let the capacitors drain. I know that the power supply is putting out 14v on the -12v rail so im assuming the power supply is fucked
JustinXenyx#8854: 14V on a -12V line? why the fuck are you still runnin that system? @Bertie Kemp
JustinXenyx#8854: thats literally double the voltage going into one line in addition that there is positive voltage on a negative voltage line
Bertie Kemp#1114: right, well thats the reason i guess, will replace it asap
neps#8085: Does a rx 560 need a 6pin?
JustinXenyx#8854: some do, some don't @neps
Deleted User#0000: 560 with 6 pins = more gpu/~~mclk~~ ocing without power throttling on entry level gpus
JustinXenyx#8854: @Deleted User the 6 pin doesn't actually change anything for the memory oc, since you cannot adjust the voltage on that, which means it runs on the same power no matter how many 6 pins you got
Deleted User#0000: @JustinXenyx that means the additional gpu power is only considered on gpu ocing?
JustinXenyx#8854: yup @Deleted User
Miracle☆#0118: @Bertie Kemp im sure your mobo fired
Miracle☆#0118: like it cant take any voltage
Bertie Kemp#1114: new power supply and it works fine
Insert Name Here#0636: nice |
Insert Name Here#0636: fixed ur compooter
Robin#5845: Anyone know how well two R9 280's perform in sli compared to a modern day gpu
Impish#5173: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/492820218872070174/585864948769357954/unknown.png
Impish#5173: how do i get rid off this
Impish#5173: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585868289746534407/unknown.png
Jamall#4646: Delete system32😂
Impish#5173: ~~ban~~
Impish#5173: srlys tho
GoldenSky#4649: Restart
Impish#5173: k
JustinXenyx#8854: @Jamall I don't think jokes like that are appropriate in a channel like this
Jamall#4646: I apologize
Jamall#4646: About that
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Robin in Crossfire* the cards may be a bit better than a 1060. but it depends HEAVILY on GPU scaling in games and other tasks, which is usually not great
DarknessFalls229#2286: if youre considering crossfire for gaming dont try it unless you do it for fun. Dont expect multi gpu setups to be nice to you |
MythologicalZ#3752: Don't waste your time
MythologicalZ#3752: Xfire and MGPU is a joke
DarknessFalls229#2286: its fun to use, but not much else
DarknessFalls229#2286: me with my three 690s
Jam#0384: Good for messing around with inexpensive modern(ish) or cool old hardware, not practical for anyone who considers money an object when buying.
exquisitedark#1117: you recognise this or my friends are retarded https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585923454218272798/514XDk2bxFL.png
Alcyone#2233: reference gtx 480
exquisitedark#1117: okat
exquisitedark#1117: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585923834423672896/unknown.png
exquisitedark#1117: and btw, was buying the "tech yes city" recommended xeon pc a good idea
TheFifthAce#4128: @Alcyone *the only 480
TheFifthAce#4128: I think MSI made a version of it with like a decal
TheFifthAce#4128: but they only made that blower design
Alcyone#2233: Gigabyte gtx 480 SOC
MSI twin frozr + lightning |
Zotac AMP
galax and kfa2 also sold models with accelero on them from the factory
Alcyone#2233: theres probably some others with bespoke coolers I forgot
The Truth#4559: Radeon hd4890 1gb gpu
The Truth#4559: Low-end system, really just wanting to be able to run minecraft at minimal settings
The Truth#4559: Thoughts?
Alcyone#2233: can your low end system even power a 200w card?
The Truth#4559: Hrgh
The Truth#4559: Probably gonna have to get a new power supply as well, huh
The Truth#4559: It's a dell vostro 200
The Truth#4559: I'm trying to just build off of a pre-built
TheFifthAce#4128: huh,
TheFifthAce#4128: still only a few types of cards
TheFifthAce#4128: pretty wack |
ShidoPixel#4650: I need help
ShidoPixel#4650: Well on my school we students have you know some crappy computers and other stuff. The thing is that every single time we shut down the computers every thing new that we do is gone how could i remove that?
Lady Mipha#0611: It could possibly be the way they were set up
ShidoPixel#4650: No it wasn't like that @Lady Mipha
The Truth#4559: So I told you guys wrong, it's a Radeon 8490
The Truth#4559: Low profile as well, which is great for this sff build
The Truth#4559: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585942022595018762/JPEG_20190605_162420.jpg
Jam#0384: 8490..
Jam#0384: Oof
Jam#0384: That is a display adapter
Jam#0384: Not even R7 240 levels of performance
Jam#0384: A 4890 would have been better tbh
Jam#0384: that card might struggle with 1080p video playback lol..
The Truth#4559: Hhh
The Truth#4559: It was $8 |
The Truth#4559: I could use some help here https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585946578385109003/JPEG_20190605_164208.jpg
Jam#0384: I got a GTX 460 1GB for $10
The Truth#4559: Isn't the card supposed to be VRAM?
Jam#0384: what?
Jam#0384: What do you mean
The Truth#4559: I have 0 mb of VRAM
Jam#0384: Install the driver for it
The Truth#4559: Where would I find it?
Jam#0384: the AMD website.
Jam#0384: :Hahahahaha:
Jam#0384: Have you never built a computer?
Jam#0384: lol
The Truth#4559: No, no I havent
The Truth#4559: This is my very first one.
Jam#0384: That's a lame first build. |
Jam#0384: What are you using it for?
The Truth#4559: And since no one is teaching me this, I'm doing it on my own.
And thanks. That's helpful.
Jam#0384: What are you using it for?
Jam#0384: It won't run games.
Jam#0384: Well, it's GT 610 levels of performance.
Jam#0384: So 480p CSGO
The Truth#4559: Minecraft. That is literally the only thing I want it to run. And it doesn't have to be pretty minecraft.
The Truth#4559: Does this look right? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585952852883537930/JPEG_20190605_170716.jpg
The Truth#4559: And I'm wanting to put win7 on here as well, but I have no idea how to do that
Jam#0384: Yes
Jam#0384: Also
Jam#0384: I don't think this will run 1.13/1.14
Jam#0384: Sorry to tell you
Jam#0384: even with optifine |
Jam#0384: and fast settings
The Truth#4559: Eh
The Truth#4559: 1.12 and earlier, though.
The Truth#4559: 1.13 and 14, yeah, the water physics break any weak systems
Jam#0384: That gpu was such a waste of money
The Truth#4559: Okay
If you're going to help, then help.
If you're going to insult, then leave
Jam#0384: if you saved $12 more you could play Minecraft in 1080p with higher settings
Jam#0384: It's not an insult.
Jam#0384: It's critique.
Jam#0384: Poor financial decision.
The Truth#4559: I understand it's a bad gpu. It's not good.
But I don't have a card. And my paycheck goes entirely to groceries. I barely managed to get this thing.
So help me figure out how to make this work, instead of repeatedly telling me that I wasted my money. |
Jam#0384: If you've installed drivers it should work.
Jam#0384: That's all there is to it.
The Truth#4559: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585954779222507520/JPEG_20190605_171449.jpg
The Truth#4559: Still no VRAM
Jam#0384: "Your PC is using the Microsoft Basic Display Adapter"
Jam#0384: AKA
Jam#0384: Drivers are not installed
The Truth#4559: I'm trying a different driver download
Jam#0384: stop stop stop
Jam#0384: I'll just get it for you
Jam#0384: https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-hd/amd-radeon-hd-8000-series-oem/amd-radeon-hd-8490
Jam#0384: There
The Truth#4559: Downloading it now
Jam#0384: Did you get the right version for your windows
The Truth#4559: What the hell |
The Truth#4559: I'm running windows 10, jam
The Truth#4559: This skips a lot of them
Jam#0384: Theres multiple downloads on that page brainlet
The Truth#4559: I know, there isn't a win10 or win7
Jam#0384: You can use the 8 Drivers on 10
Jam#0384: It's fine
The Truth#4559: Oh, huh
Jam#0384: If not try vista
Jam#0384: my mistake this time
watsonad2000#2000: whats the better, the stock 8350 cooloer or a coolermaster geminii m4
watsonad2000#2000: the m4 has a corsair ml fan
TheGeekster#8508: If memory serves correctly, the FX stock coolers were fucking awful
TheGeekster#8508: geminii is probably gonna be better, but it's quite a low profile small cooler for an 8350's head output
watsonad2000#2000: @TheGeekster the cpu is a 1600
watsonad2000#2000: im useing the backwards compat for am3 |
TheGeekster#8508: the 1600 stock cooler is vastly better than the 8350 and designed for it, but the geminii one looks alright too
watsonad2000#2000: also im putting a ml fan on the m4
watsonad2000#2000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585959185838112768/5529916.png
watsonad2000#2000: ml 120 pro
The Truth#4559: That worked!
TheFifthAce#4128: @The Truth I'll trade a k600 for that 8490
TheFifthAce#4128: terascale drivers are ass
TheFifthAce#4128: fermi drivers are less ass
Ramiere#1840: Would an i5 3470 bottleneck a rx 570 or 1060?
Ramiere#1840: 1060 3gb to be specific
TheFifthAce#4128: no
TheFifthAce#4128: should be fine
TheFifthAce#4128: dont buy a 1060 3gb
TheFifthAce#4128: buy a 570
TheFifthAce#4128: 1060 3gb is shit value |
TheFifthAce#4128: if you're spending that much, just buy a 580
TheFifthAce#4128: @Ramiere
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^
Ramiere#1840: Thanks I appreciate it
The Truth#4559: Hm? Oh, uh... Well, I don't know. I'll have to look up the specs.
The Truth#4559: @TheFifthAce Woah, holy shit, I'm definitely down for that
Alcyone#2233: cpu loop with air cooled peltier twin turbo https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585979356866674719/unknown.png
Thomas Callaghan#6969: @The Truth where you from chief? might ship you a gtx 460 or something if you're down for it
The Truth#4559: dude hell yes
The Truth#4559: I'm in the states, Kentucky to be exact
Thomas Callaghan#6969: :Eurgh:
Thomas Callaghan#6969: rip
Thomas Callaghan#6969: not american so itd cost a fortune
The Truth#4559: damn
TheFifthAce#4128: I have a 460 |
TheFifthAce#4128: do you want that
TheFifthAce#4128: send 8490
TheFifthAce#4128: :sadman:
Thomas Callaghan#6969: had this gtx 460 for about 3 years, its a little trooper
Thomas Callaghan#6969: kinda saddened when the lads at nvidia stopped making drivers for it
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585980381833068544/20190605_195626.jpg
TheFifthAce#4128: take your pick tbh
The Truth#4559: holy hell man
The Truth#4559: I felt good by getting a 1 gig gpu
TheFifthAce#4128: whats your psu
The Truth#4559: a radeon at that
The Truth#4559: I don't even know man
TheFifthAce#4128: does it have a 6 pin
The Truth#4559: It's whatever was already in it
The Truth#4559: let me look |
TheFifthAce#4128: take a pic of the psu if possible
TheFifthAce#4128: x
The Truth#4559: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585981058424766464/JPEG_20190605_185915.jpg
The Truth#4559: Have a foot
TheFifthAce#4128: thats a large yikes
TheFifthAce#4128: 250w
TheFifthAce#4128: what cpu
Lady Mipha#0611: Yikes
The Truth#4559: Remember this is my very first, and this is the best I've got right now
Alcyone#2233: that isnt gonna have a 6 pin, and if it does its prob dangerous to use it
TheFifthAce#4128: that doesnt answer question of cpu
TheFifthAce#4128: I have many gpu
TheFifthAce#4128: must figure out good pair
The Truth#4559: Ummm
The Truth#4559: Let me get the dxdiag up real quick |
The Truth#4559: It's a pretty old one
Alcyone#2233: sff and a 250w psu. I'm guessing a 775 pentium or c2d
The Truth#4559: Likely so
TheFifthAce#4128: can you tell cpu
The Truth#4559: It's 775 I know that much
TheFifthAce#4128: I can probably send cpu too
TheFifthAce#4128: I have a bunch of q8400s laying around
The Truth#4559: Dude why are you being so nice
TheFifthAce#4128: ~~so that I can kill you in your sleep~~
its what I do lmao, I love doing charity work, recently did this, looking forward to doing it again
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/br4ajg/usava_h_two_computers_and_two_laptops_for_college/
TheFifthAce#4128: anyways!
TheFifthAce#4128: what is cpu and board! |
TheFifthAce#4128: I must check if need cpu upgrade
TheFifthAce#4128: and if so, what cpu I can give
Alcyone#2233: if youre on 10, you can just type about in the search box and click the first result, it will list the cpu
TheFifthAce#4128: ^
TheFifthAce#4128: or dxdiag
TheFifthAce#4128: or windows key + pause
Alcyone#2233: hey I didn't know that shortcut, good oil
The Truth#4559: Yeppers I know, I had to boot the thing up again
The Truth#4559: It takes a while to load
TheFifthAce#4128: I will send ssd too
TheFifthAce#4128: if I have one lying around
The Truth#4559: ~~oh my g o d~~
The Truth#4559: Alright I have it up now
TheFifthAce#4128: you know, I could prolly just send an entire phenom ii x4 system
The Truth#4559: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585983170126807041/JPEG_20190605_190729.jpg |
TheFifthAce#4128: its just kinda sitting there, and it uses ddr2 so I'd feel bad using it for anything else
The Truth#4559: ~~my man I'd have to pay you for that onr in some way~~
The Truth#4559: I do have a few DDR2 sticks lying around
TheFifthAce#4128: looks like the max that can take is an e8600
TheFifthAce#4128: I have 8gb ddr2 in it already
The Truth#4559: I think this thing is DDR2 actually
The Truth#4559: ~~c o u g h the most I've ever had was 4gb~~
The Truth#4559: Which is what this thing is
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585983550939987984/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: :dAB:
TheFifthAce#4128: anyways!
TheFifthAce#4128: what is the motherboard model number!
The Truth#4559: ~~cmon man don't flex on me like that~~
The Truth#4559: Er
The Truth#4559: Give me a sec to find that |
TheFifthAce#4128: g33m02?
TheFifthAce#4128: or m03?
TheFifthAce#4128: if m03 its 8400 time
The Truth#4559: That first one sounds familiar
TheFifthAce#4128: because the max that goes in the 02 is core 2 duos
TheFifthAce#4128: :sadman:
The Truth#4559: Is there a way to find it without tearing stuff out
The Truth#4559: ?
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
TheFifthAce#4128: should be under cpu
TheFifthAce#4128: like the socket
The Truth#4559: ~~I'm new I'm sorry~~
TheFifthAce#4128: not under the physical cpu
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585984368992845834/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: @The Truth |
TheFifthAce#4128: should be around there
The Truth#4559: G33m02
TheFifthAce#4128: yikes
TheFifthAce#4128: core 2 duo time
TheFifthAce#4128: I'll send an e6750
TheFifthAce#4128: or whatever it is
TheFifthAce#4128: you ever just https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585984691904053268/unknown.png
The Truth#4559: And you still just want the 8490? Like I can try to find something else to send
TheFifthAce#4128: I mean if you have any other cool stuff idk lol
TheFifthAce#4128: I like low power cards
The Truth#4559: ~~hhhhh~~
Oh, uh
The Truth#4559: I have a ton of like
TheFifthAce#4128: ~~also I may or may not have a collection of hd 8490s~~
The Truth#4559: *baaaaaaaaaaad* ones |
TheFifthAce#4128: like what
TheFifthAce#4128: @Alcyone k600 is better than hd 8490 right
TheFifthAce#4128: like by a significant margin
TheFifthAce#4128: I'm pretty sure it is
TheFifthAce#4128: its rated at 809 by videogamebenchmark and the 8490 is 300
The Truth#4559: Here's one https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585985042505793537/JPEG_20190605_191504.jpg
TheFifthAce#4128: UWU
The Truth#4559: Alright that goes in the box
TheFifthAce#4128: nah
TheFifthAce#4128: ~~I only want the cooler tbh~~
TheFifthAce#4128: I collect coolers
TheFifthAce#4128: but I dont have a card to put it on
TheFifthAce#4128: so dont bother
TheFifthAce#4128: so!
TheFifthAce#4128: core 2 duo, I'll send 4 sticks of 2gb ddr2 |
TheFifthAce#4128: so you can have 8gb ram
TheFifthAce#4128: + k600
Alcyone#2233: im not certain
The Truth#4559: I also have these https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585985416729985024/JPEG_20190605_191630.jpg
Lady Mipha#0611: Agp
The Truth#4559: Agp?
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585985592236572682/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585985615934521364/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: @Alcyone like surely its faster
TheFifthAce#4128: @The Truth does your board have 4 ram slots
Alcyone#2233: im not sure about quadros, but it certainly could be, terrascale drivers suck
The Truth#4559: Yeppwrs
TheFifthAce#4128: it should
TheFifthAce#4128: ok
TheFifthAce#4128: sending 8gb ram |
Lady Mipha#0611: @The Truth advanced graphics port
TheFifthAce#4128: lemme repaste the k600
The Truth#4559: Hecking https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585985951797477386/JPEG_20190605_191832.jpg
Lady Mipha#0611: Was a stopgap for pci-e
TheFifthAce#4128: its in a low profile bracket rn, do you need a full size bracket?
The Truth#4559: Uhhhhhhhhh
Explain for the fool you're talking to
The Truth#4559: Nah I'm using an sff
The Truth#4559: Unless that means something else
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585986058609754132/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585986105422381086/unknown.png
The Truth#4559: Yeah I need to low profile one
TheFifthAce#4128: ok
TheFifthAce#4128: putting this coolermaster cum thermalpaste on
TheFifthAce#4128: it came with a freezer pro 7 |
TheFifthAce#4128: so its probably alright
Lady Mipha#0611: :RginHd:
The Truth#4559: Oh I do have one thing of some sort of interest
The Truth#4559: I think
The Truth#4559: Maybe
The Truth#4559: It's the most modern thing anyways
The Truth#4559: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585986520075468801/JPEG_20190605_192109.jpg
TheFifthAce#4128: 1155?
TheFifthAce#4128: perfect
The Truth#4559: Want it?
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
TheFifthAce#4128: free cooler hours
TheFifthAce#4128: :dAB:
The Truth#4559: Alright that goes in
The Truth#4559: 8490, i3 cooler |
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585986778222166017/20190605_202207.jpg
TheFifthAce#4128: nudie :blobembarrassed: so naughty
The Truth#4559: 👌 💦
Alcyone#2233: I was gonna say I have a low profile gt 705, but the hd 8490 is probably stronger
The Truth#4559: No idea man
TheFifthAce#4128: wasnt joking about cum paste
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585986982526713856/20190605_202255.jpg
The Truth#4559: Pf
TheFifthAce#4128: coolermaster made pure white paste
TheFifthAce#4128: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The Truth#4559: The only really nice thing I own is this
The Truth#4559: One sec
The Truth#4559: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585987270008635392/JPEG_20190605_192408.jpg
The Truth#4559: I've been waiting for the right build to put in it
TheFifthAce#4128: I could send a peenom build to put in it |
TheFifthAce#4128: phenom ii x4 820 + some am2+ mobo + 8gb ddr2
The Truth#4559: Oh my phucking
The Truth#4559: Dude
The Truth#4559: Cease
The Truth#4559: Habg on I have something for this
TheFifthAce#4128: its only tennessee lmao
TheFifthAce#4128: thats like 10$ to ship
The Truth#4559: but all *the things*
TheFifthAce#4128: wym
The Truth#4559: You're giving so much
The Truth#4559: like
The Truth#4559: an entire build just for a gpu
The Truth#4559: and a bad gpu at that
TheFifthAce#4128: you gotta get the psu
TheFifthAce#4128: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
TheFifthAce#4128: if you can buy a psu I can put a gtx 460 in
TheFifthAce#4128: or a 550 ti
The Truth#4559: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585987926316548096/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: I have a 480, a 550 ti, and a 460 just lying around xd
TheFifthAce#4128: you heading to college soon?
The Truth#4559: I'm going into my senior year of high school actually
TheFifthAce#4128: you planning on college?
The Truth#4559: after that I'll be heading to Sullivan university, yeah. Hopefully the gov. will give me quite a bit of tuition since I was in foster care
TheFifthAce#4128: wht games
The Truth#4559: would I like to play?'
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
The Truth#4559: uhhh
The Truth#4559: well
The Truth#4559: I don't
really know |
I've never had a system that could handle anything more than fallout new vegas on borderline medium graphics
The Truth#4559: I mean
The Truth#4559: My favorite series of all time is the fallout series
The Truth#4559: and I'd love to be able to play fallout 4, but that just like
seems way too far away for me
The Truth#4559: yeah I can find a way to get a psu
The Truth#4559: I'll have my next paycheck tomorrow, should have enough left over to grab something decent
TheFifthAce#4128: I mean..
TheFifthAce#4128: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw7qI28IgiI
The Truth#4559: that's
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585989073575870465/JPEG_20190605_203105.jpg
The Truth#4559: literally xbox one graphics
and it's gorgeous to me even though plenty of people here would call it disgusting
TheFifthAce#4128: like if you can get a PSU.. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585989236788822046/unknown.png
The Truth#4559: I'll find a way to get one |
The Truth#4559: this is getting shipped in an ebay box, just gonna go ahead and let you know
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585989614196621313/JPEG_20190605_203321.jpg
The Truth#4559: ~~hnnnnh~~
TheFifthAce#4128: hm
TheFifthAce#4128: actually
TheFifthAce#4128: I'm buying some i3s late for 7$
TheFifthAce#4128: I'll send one of those
TheFifthAce#4128: buy a barebones optiplex off ebay for 25$, slap that in, slap in k600, easy 1080p gaming
TheFifthAce#4128: or idk
The Truth#4559: ~~cough~~
if you do that I've got to find more things to send because I will feel so very bad if I just take those from you
TheFifthAce#4128: do I need to flex my specs again to make you feel less bad
TheFifthAce#4128: even better, I'll flex my desktop
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585990218302095360/unknown.png
The Truth#4559: ~~THAT MAKES ME FEEL EVEN WORSE BECAUSE I'M TAKING PART FROM SOMEONE MUCH BETTER AT THIS THAN MEEEE~~ |
The Truth#4559: sorry
TheFifthAce#4128: how does it make you feel worse
TheFifthAce#4128: youre taking part from someone that doesnt need
The Truth#4559: because you likely know exactly what you're doing
TheFifthAce#4128: well yeah
The Truth#4559: I have
The Truth#4559: *no clue*
TheFifthAce#4128: do you need thermal paste
The Truth#4559: ~~hh yes~~
TheFifthAce#4128: whats your cpu cooler right now
TheFifthAce#4128: I have a sick 775 cooler you could use
The Truth#4559: Uhhh
The Truth#4559: I don't
really even know
The Truth#4559: it's beefy I know that but yours is likely better |
The Truth#4559: but it's sff
TheFifthAce#4128: well yeah
TheFifthAce#4128: but is it the 65w or the 90w
The Truth#4559: I have to look https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585991034400669696/JPEG_20190605_193835.jpg
TheFifthAce#4128: oh I dont have an e6750...
TheFifthAce#4128: I have an e7400, which is faster
TheFifthAce#4128: :ULTRAKEK:
TheFifthAce#4128: that cooler will work fine
The Truth#4559: ~~hh~~
The Truth#4559: Oh it will?
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
TheFifthAce#4128: was worried it was the tiny one
TheFifthAce#4128: you have 4 x 1gb rn right
The Truth#4559: Yep
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585992191441240077/20190605_204338.jpg |
TheFifthAce#4128: 2x2 + 2x1 time?
TheFifthAce#4128: 2x2 + 1x1!
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585992415777783808/20190605_204431.jpg
Bertie Kemp#1114: Hey, is a X58 motherboard with i7-920 a good deal for £40?
The Truth#4559: aaaaaa
TheFifthAce#4128: @Bertie Kemp which x58
TheFifthAce#4128: oh I found 2 more 2x2
Bertie Kemp#1114: EX58-UD5 Gigabyte
TheFifthAce#4128: yeah go for it if it works
TheFifthAce#4128: easy resell
TheFifthAce#4128: top end board, that
Bertie Kemp#1114: if i chuck in a X5650, that would be pretty good for gaming right?
Bertie Kemp#1114: especially for only £9
TheFifthAce#4128: no
TheFifthAce#4128: resell and buy ryzen |
Bertie Kemp#1114: okay, but first i wanna mess around with x58 overclocking
TheFifthAce#4128: ok
The Truth#4559: Beepbeep
The Truth#4559: I've got the box taped up and my address on it, I'll need yours
TheFifthAce#4128: yote https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585994693448302605/JPEG_20190605_205334.jpg
The Truth#4559: Aaa
The Truth#4559: I've wrapped my things wrapped in the bubble wrap it came in
Ramiere#1840: would the stock intel cooler of an i5 3470 keep an i7 3770 cool
TheFifthAce#4128: which one
TheFifthAce#4128: 65w or 90w
TheFifthAce#4128: take a pic @Ramiere
Ramiere#1840: of the cooler?
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
Ramiere#1840: oh ok
TheFifthAce#4128: @The Truth man I hope I didnt grab the wrong card and package a k2000 :FeelsWinkMan: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585995556296327181/unknown.png |
TheFifthAce#4128: I dont think I did
TheFifthAce#4128: but I might have
TheFifthAce#4128: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The Truth#4559: :nibbawhat1: :nibbawhat2: :NibbaWhat3:
The Truth#4559: :Bruhh:
Ramiere#1840: Excuse the mess
TheFifthAce#4128: pm me address
Ramiere#1840: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585995953597579304/JPEG_20190605_205746.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585995954252152852/JPEG_20190605_205758.jpg
Ramiere#1840: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585995969322287144/JPEG_20190605_205735.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/585995970760802314/JPEG_20190605_205717.jpg
TheFifthAce#4128: thats a yikes from me captain
Ramiere#1840: idk if thats what you meant
TheFifthAce#4128: looks like the 65w to me
TheFifthAce#4128: you *can*
Ramiere#1840: im fine with buying a new cooler just dont want to if i dont need to
TheFifthAce#4128: the 65w cooler isnt *bad*, it's just not *good* |
TheFifthAce#4128: you can safely put it in there and check the temps
TheFifthAce#4128: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
exquisitedark#1117: is Intel Xeon CPU E5 2440 any good
exquisitedark#1117: i bought a system with that cpu, 8 gigs of ram
exquisitedark#1117: from ali express°
exquisitedark#1117: ill get more money and upgrade from the gtx 480
exquisitedark#1117: (oof)
MythologicalZ#3752: It's one of those meme 6c CPUs Tyc keeps peddling
MythologicalZ#3752: It's not terrible but I wouldn't expect that much out of it
exquisitedark#1117: but is it good for 20 euro
MythologicalZ#3752: It's not bad for 20,now it's a question of keeping your Mobo cost low
exquisitedark#1117: the cheapest was 47 euro :Hahahahaha:
MythologicalZ#3752: For the board or CPU?
exquisitedark#1117: board
MythologicalZ#3752: Shit price |
exquisitedark#1117: yeah
exquisitedark#1117: there was cheaper, but it had only single channer ram
MythologicalZ#3752: Just go 1155 at that point
MythologicalZ#3752: 2400+random H61
exquisitedark#1117: yah but it's basically the same price
MythologicalZ#3752: For a more stable upgrade path
Bertie Kemp#1114: Is this a good power supply? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/586160432600055808/20190606_125152.jpg
TheGeekster#8508: Define what you mean by "good"? will it work on a basic computer? aye, do youwant to stick a nvidia 680 in it? nope
Bertie Kemp#1114: i thought if a power supply has more Amps on the 5v than 12v rail, its not great?
Lady Mipha#0611: That’s not a good modern day power supply
Lady Mipha#0611: If it were for older builds that require 5v then yes it’s good
Bertie Kemp#1114: okay, thats what i thought
JustinXenyx#8854: essentially what Vendetta said
JustinXenyx#8854: its more designed for pc's that require higher 5v amperage than 12v amperage, which usually are pretty old computers
Lady Mipha#0611: ^ |
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