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Deleted User#0000: that is a valid thing that can happen
Muse#0557: Well yes it will buy a 4790k is a solid 50% more expensive than a 3770k
Deleted User#0000: since some emulators can get a boost from the AVX2 instructions
Deleted User#0000: yeah
Deleted User#0000: was gonna say that
Deleted User#0000: Haswell is notoriously pricey
SuSSudio#2688: I doubt i'm going i7 though, as this is a mid gap upgrade for me
Deleted User#0000: oh and also, one small thing I will note
Muse#0557: Then what's the point
Muse#0557: The haswell i5s are under 10% faster than ivy
Deleted User#0000: Dio, when you buy Haswell, buy the fastest DDR3 sticks you can find
Deleted User#0000: Haswell loves fast memory
Deleted User#0000: like, to the point where it does matter
SuSSudio#2688: LGA 775 is just too old at this point. Haswell for me is something in the middle
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786210223022014505/DDR3-1600-Haswell-RAM-Benchmarks-1.jpg |
Deleted User#0000: this is the RAM thing
Deleted User#0000: I was talking about
DarknessFalls229#2286: There are many steps between 775 and haswell
Muse#0557: Everyone will agree that ivy value > haswell perf gains
Deleted User#0000: yeah
Deleted User#0000: it is
Muse#0557: If you want to go for haswell go for it
Deleted User#0000: unless you have a very specific niche for Haswell
Muse#0557: But you won't really find any confirmation here
Deleted User#0000: wouldnt recommend
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 4c/4t vs 2c/4t
MythologicalZ#3752: 4130 will pull less power
MythologicalZ#3752: probs why he wants it
Deleted User#0000: I personally like Haswell since AVX2 reduces audio latency in music production applications......which is very much a niche thing.
SuSSudio#2688: I'm aware i'm losing out in value if i go haswell |
Deleted User#0000: also it boosts some emulators
MythologicalZ#3752: still has the ipc and 2c fine for esports
Deleted User#0000: but here is the question
Deleted User#0000: what's the price of an i5-4590 there?
Muse#0557: Go for whatever you want
Muse#0557: Haswell obviously has advantages
Muse#0557: But in my opinion they don't outweigh the loss in raw performance
Muse#0557: You seem pretty set on what you want
Deleted User#0000: I mean, I am a Haswell user that's going to crawl back to Sandy Bridge
Deleted User#0000: soo, that points out one thing
MythologicalZ#3752: lol wtf
MythologicalZ#3752: 8 quid for a 4130
MythologicalZ#3752: get outta here
MythologicalZ#3752: whole world isnt the uk
MythologicalZ#3752: given the prices hes posted previously 40 is fine for haswell 2c |
SuSSudio#2688: Fairly steep, at us$63
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786211126697525309/Screenshot_20201209_124209_com.android.chrome.jpg
Muse#0557: No stock :(
SuSSudio#2688: Again, like i said earlier this is a mid gap upgrade, as i don't have the necessity to buy ram, psu, video card, & storages.
MythologicalZ#3752: is that orange site still up with the deals
MythologicalZ#3752: again whole world isnt the uk
Deleted User#0000: how about a i3-4170 then?
Muse#0557: We've been over that myth?
MythologicalZ#3752: you dont get cex in the Philippines or wherever
MythologicalZ#3752: then why post it
Deleted User#0000: still will get a bit of a boost in clocks
Muse#0557: Because i thought he was in the UK
MythologicalZ#3752: :epicgamer:
Muse#0557: And acknowledged he wasn't already?
SuSSudio#2688: us$39 |
Deleted User#0000: yikes
MythologicalZ#3752: only after I mentioned it
MythologicalZ#3752: anyways
MythologicalZ#3752: just get a 4130, there are barely any gains with the higher sku chips
MythologicalZ#3752: you get a few 100mhz bumps that wont go much further
SuSSudio#2688: I think you've seen me mentioning i live in asia
Deleted User#0000: well, yeah in that case 4130 is a good choice
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786211768229560350/Screenshot_20201209_124437_com.discord.png
Deleted User#0000: I just assumed you can find it for a similarish price, if so, go for them
Muse#0557: Even in his market the 2400 is better lol
Deleted User#0000: also
Muse#0557: Just go for haswell though
Deleted User#0000: about what instruction the Haswell i3 runs
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786211973808914452/unknown.png
Muse#0557: If you're on a e8400 it's still a large upgrade |
Deleted User#0000: screenshot from my CPU-Z
MythologicalZ#3752: @SuSSudio how much is the 2400 even
MythologicalZ#3752: you get some avx shit that wont matter
Deleted User#0000: it matters, but not enough tbh
MythologicalZ#3752: 2c will still drown
Deleted User#0000: like I said
Deleted User#0000: if you are going Haswell
Deleted User#0000: you get a whole different set of issues
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah msi h81 qc
MythologicalZ#3752: otherwise its just another i3
Deleted User#0000: H81 is kinda trashy as a chipset ngl, and also I will note again: get the fastest RAM the board supports and run dual-channel
MythologicalZ#3752: h81 is fine
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: That shouldn't be too hard
Deleted User#0000: it's fine, but it really depends on what you want for a feature set
MythologicalZ#3752: and unless you go z series it'll be 1600 lock across most boards |
Deleted User#0000: get H87 if you can
Deleted User#0000: mainly for 4 RAM slots
SuSSudio#2688: us$32
MythologicalZ#3752: compelling
MythologicalZ#3752: if you can push the power draw over the i3 you may as well get that
SuSSudio#2688: I won't touch B85 & up with haswell, value will be much worse.
MythologicalZ#3752: nobody should because theyre dumb expensive for very few gains
MythologicalZ#3752: 2d h series +4x2 1333 or whatever and sleep
MythologicalZ#3752: can still run 1600 mems like the rest
Deleted User#0000: I would still recommend to compare pricings of H87 vs H81
Deleted User#0000: it's that much better
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah never a bad idea to compare prices
SuSSudio#2688: This topic has kinda pushed me back to lga 1155
Deleted User#0000: if it's a couple of bucks difference
Deleted User#0000: go for it |
MythologicalZ#3752: but dont overpay for no reason
MythologicalZ#3752: realistically if youre sticking to terascale a 4c wont make that much difference
MythologicalZ#3752: main point is just to ditch 775
SuSSudio#2688: With lga 1155 here's what i can get :
- Asrock B75m (us$39)
- i5 2400 (us$32)
- 4GB 1333mhz ddr3 stick (us$12.7)
all used, although i'm heading more towards new for the 4gb stick to match up with my current one
MythologicalZ#3752: not bad
MythologicalZ#3752: ah you have ram around
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah then its pretty nice
Deleted User#0000: yeah, that is nice ngl
MythologicalZ#3752: that asrock is alright too, plenty of sata and decent io
SuSSudio#2688: So basically if i pick sandy, it will consume more or less the same power as my e8400 |
MythologicalZ#3752: either platform will smash 775
Deleted User#0000: but it will just be like, so so much of an improvement
SuSSudio#2688: Yes indeed. I'm set on 7xx series mobo.
MythologicalZ#3752: b75 too so out of box support for ivy
MythologicalZ#3752: or well, first release ivy chips
MythologicalZ#3752: probs will needs updates for the later stuff
MythologicalZ#3752: but its asrock so you'll be fine support wise
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah even has drivers for 10
Muse#0557: (You can buy a Celeron for pocket change to update the bios worst case scenario)
MythologicalZ#3752: real asrock moment
SuSSudio#2688: Lower power, newer tech, better IPC were my main goals for the haswell initially, but yeah unfortunately i will potentially suffer in perf/$.
So yeah cheers for sharing your feedback on this matter.
D.D.M#8226: So i found a gtx 1060 ti 6gb for sale on a selling site in my country for about 100€ converted from my country's money.
D.D.M#8226: Good or bad? |
D.D.M#8226: Its a gigabyte OC variant
Deleted User#0000: That sounds reasonable for a 1060
D.D.M#8226: Guy said if i am planning to buy it he can drop the price 10 15€
Deleted User#0000: sounds more then reasonable to me, price wise
Deleted User#0000: and Gigabyte is known for decent GPU's
Deleted User#0000: from what I know
Deleted User#0000: thats about how much my 1060 was
Deleted User#0000: sounds like an alright price
JustinXenyx#8854: or 1660Ti? 1060Ti does not exist
JustinXenyx#8854: ah fuck lmao wrong ping
JustinXenyx#8854: so, 1060, 1050Ti or 1660Ti? @D.D.M
Deleted User#0000: He probably just meant a 1060 6GB
Deleted User#0000: Since usually Ti models had more VRAM, and 1060 3GB existed as well
Foxious#1859: I think they didint call it 1060 ti because it dosent ring well
Foxious#1859: not like 1050, 1070, 1080 |
Foxious#1859: all ring well with "ti"
JustinXenyx#8854: 1660Ti and 3060Ti would like to disagree
JustinXenyx#8854: or 660Ti
Foxious#1859: 660Ti dosent ring well imo
Deleted User#0000: 😐
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah but it shows that they don't give a fuck about that
JustinXenyx#8854: There was just no marketspace for a 1060Ti
JustinXenyx#8854: As Nvidia just proved again, xx60Ti cards are either great value or just stupid
JustinXenyx#8854: Example: 1660Ti is a bit stupid, but the 3060Ti beats the 3070 in value
D.D.M#8226: No i only knew that 1060s only had 3gb and 1060 tis have 6gb
D.D.M#8226: And yeah its just a 1060 with 6gb vram
JustinXenyx#8854: 1060Tis still don't exist
JustinXenyx#8854: :Xdxdxd:
D.D.M#8226: Lol
SuSSudio#2688: 1060 6G is almost like 1660S of today |
JustinXenyx#8854: nah the 1060 3GB is the one that nobody wanted
D.D.M#8226: I first thought of a 1650
JustinXenyx#8854: except when crypto miners couldn't use the 1060 3GB for mining, that's when they had some practicality
Foxious#1859: nothing really wrong with 3gb imo
Foxious#1859: but they used to be alot cheaper here
Foxious#1859: than the 6gb
JustinXenyx#8854: It started becoming pretty much useless once games started using more than 4GB of memory
Foxious#1859: nah
JustinXenyx#8854: You need to compensate for the 1060 3GBs lack of VRAM in system RAM
JustinXenyx#8854: try using a 1060 3GB in an 8GB system, it'll suffer big time
D.D.M#8226: Well are 1060 6gb cards likely to be used by miners?
Foxious#1859: if they use more vram than you have vram, most games have systems to compensate, other than virtual memory
Foxious#1859: because my 2gb 1050 would have been otherwise buggered in 2019
JustinXenyx#8854: in a 16GB system it'll run alright but still not really how it should if it just had 6GB itself
Foxious#1859: but my 1050 was in a system with single channel 2400mhz 8gb ram |
Deleted User#0000: thing is
Deleted User#0000: issue with 1060 3GB wasnt the VRAM
Foxious#1859: before you say anything
SuSSudio#2688: Ironic considering first 3GB card was introduced sometime between 2011-12, then in 2016 became affordable enough that games already started demand more than it
Foxious#1859: im not defending small vram alright
Deleted User#0000: it was how they got the VRAM to run
Foxious#1859: large amount is always better
Deleted User#0000: they just cut half the RAM chips off, halfing the bandwidth
Foxious#1859: 3gb's real problem was that it had less cuda cores
Foxious#1859: and the fact that rx 580 8gb was a thing
Deleted User#0000: that's why a 1050 would smoke a 1060 3GB
Foxious#1859: no
Foxious#1859: just no
Deleted User#0000: eh
Deleted User#0000: it would |
MythologicalZ#3752: its not just vram halved on the 1063
Deleted User#0000: pure power wise
Foxious#1859: it had physically way less power
MythologicalZ#3752: cut down to 1152 vs 1280
D.D.M#8226: Welp the market in my country is a bit of a mess
D.D.M#8226: So i wouldn't trust used rx series cards
Deleted User#0000: I am pretty sure I saw somewhere a 1050 beating the 1060 3GB
Deleted User#0000: or was that the Ti variant
D.D.M#8226: Yes
D.D.M#8226: It did
D.D.M#8226: Sometimes
Foxious#1859: Ti maybe
SuSSudio#2688: in some areas
Foxious#1859: but no way in hell the normal 1050
Foxious#1859: 1050 has half the shading units and tmus |
Foxious#1859: even Ti is lacking in those areas
Foxious#1859: 1050 ti Shading Units
768
TMUs
48
ROPs
32
SM Count
6
Foxious#1859: 1060 3gb Shading Units
1152
TMUs
72
ROPs
48 |
SM Count
9
Deleted User#0000: yeah
Deleted User#0000: how do old double-vram flagships hold up today
like gtx 680 4gb/hd 7970 6gb
Deleted User#0000: I just know that everyone I ever talked to said to avoid the 3GB like the plauge
SuSSudio#2688: you mean both in xfire & sli?
Deleted User#0000: no
Foxious#1859: because in most places it was bad value @Deleted User
Deleted User#0000: i mean most of the 680s and 7970s had 2gb and 3gb respectively
Deleted User#0000: but there were some with 4 and 6
Foxious#1859: costing almost the same as the 6gb variant
Foxious#1859: but still too much compared to the 1050ti
Deleted User#0000: well
Deleted User#0000: they are harder to find |
SuSSudio#2688: HD7970 6G i believe still holds ground today, though you're forced to go into lower settings
SuSSudio#2688: 680 on the other hand, kekler ded
kittycat959#2895: its between a 560 and a 570 iirc
Deleted User#0000: I would say the 680 4GB still would be fine
kittycat959#2895: rx 560 and rx570 to clarify
Deleted User#0000: in a lot of games, GTX 680 and higher would match around
kittycat959#2895: the 680 is kepler so....
Deleted User#0000: a 1050
Foxious#1859: still want to get a 3gb because **BLOWER** https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786286529655209994/P_setting_fff_1_90_end_600.png
Deleted User#0000: big coolers on short pcbs look weird
SuSSudio#2688: it's been the trend as of late
Deleted User#0000: closest benchmarks I found are for the 2GB cards
Deleted User#0000: https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/1588/bench/BF1.png
Deleted User#0000: like this one
kittycat959#2895: the 1050 isnt great ngl |
Deleted User#0000: anything about the 4GB model just
Deleted User#0000: seems to be hard to find
Deleted User#0000: it's a good "turn a prebuild into a gaming PC" card
Deleted User#0000: i have one of these
Deleted User#0000: since it only needs 75W
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786286973772890122/14-487-267-S99.png
Deleted User#0000: it just werks
Deleted User#0000: even if its tiny
Deleted User#0000: that today has been stolen by the 1650 tho
Deleted User#0000: with 20ish % more power
Muse#0557: What has been stolen
JustinXenyx#8854: your mom
Deleted User#0000: 1050's spot for turning low power prebuilt PCs into gaming PCs
Deleted User#0000: By the existence of a 1650
Muse#0557: That is typically how products work |
Foxious#1859: i would be prepared to pay everything i have for a GTX 1050 founders edition https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786287616634912768/1050-2-18102016.png
Deleted User#0000: Well yeah
Deleted User#0000: I got a 1050 since my PC at the time
Foxious#1859: it is so incredibly adorable https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786287706006093866/5ee38da550f4dfc4af8f0693d2edb0af685df72b.png
Deleted User#0000: Had a 180W PSU
Deleted User#0000: Thank you Lenovo
Muse#0557: I had a hp with a 150w psu with a gimped 1050 in it
Muse#0557: I don't understand the point tbh
Foxious#1859: oh same here
Foxious#1859: was your a small formfactor pavilion too ?
Foxious#1859: with a pentium g4560?
Deleted User#0000: Oh god
Muse#0557: It was some sort of pavilion yes
Muse#0557: Think it was an I5 7400 tho
Muse#0557: The 1050 must of been running at 35w or something |
Foxious#1859: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786288075986042880/9k.png
Muse#0557: I don't understand how or why they did it
Muse#0557: Like that
Muse#0557: But more gamer
Foxious#1859: oh the green one
Muse#0557: Mhm
Foxious#1859: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786288270626914304/PavilionGamingTG01-0003nopelipC3B6ytC3A4kone.png
Foxious#1859: We paid 700 euros for the pile of garbage with a G4560, 1050 and 8gb of ram in a single stick
Deleted User#0000: Nowdays I just run a PSU adapter and a budget SilverStone PSU
Deleted User#0000: 500W
Foxious#1859: a few months later for the same price, the same pc but with a I5
Foxious#1859: funny enough
Foxious#1859: when my main pc's intel stock cooler gave out and i had to use the system again
Foxious#1859: i put the 2x 8gb 3200 sticks into it from my main system
Foxious#1859: and it either did nothing or it has been too long since i last used it |
MythologicalZ#3752: what board do you have
Foxious#1859: who?
Foxious#1859: me or dekki?
MythologicalZ#3752: you
Foxious#1859: in what computer? the pentium one?
MythologicalZ#3752: the oem thing with the 3200
MythologicalZ#3752: unless its somehow a z series it wont break 3k
Foxious#1859: yes i know, but i meant it more as i put alot of dual channel ram and it still didint change from the single 2400 stick
Foxious#1859: it was running at most at 2866
MythologicalZ#3752: probs 2666
Foxious#1859: just like my main pc
Foxious#1859: because the I5 dosent like fast ram
Foxious#1859: even tough i have a z board but an unlocked cpu
SuSSudio#2688: ring your bus
MythologicalZ#3752: painful imc if you cant run 3200 xmp |
MythologicalZ#3752: oh well
MythologicalZ#3752: minimal gains in any case
Foxious#1859: its more as a future proof
Foxious#1859: im gonna pootis a I7 9700K into this when they become cheap enough
Foxious#1859: but yes
Foxious#1859: i did buy a 9400F and a Asus prime z390
Foxious#1859: cough on purpose def cough
MythologicalZ#3752: prime meme
MythologicalZ#3752: at least you get the nice bios
Foxious#1859: nah the z390 is good
MythologicalZ#3752: which one
Foxious#1859: but i have heard other things about the z490 version
Foxious#1859: Z390-P, or what do you mean?
MythologicalZ#3752: z370 a prime was alright
MythologicalZ#3752: oh lol prime p |
Foxious#1859: oi what you mean
MythologicalZ#3752: ah well non ht 8c will be fine
MythologicalZ#3752: ah nice ocnet is broken again
MythologicalZ#3752: chart is gone!
Foxious#1859: my fav pc supply store (jimms) said that up to a 9700K would be fine
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah
MythologicalZ#3752: i9 will burn it though
SuSSudio#2688: In related topic, were P8H6/7x boards in the same class as Asus Prime is today?
MythologicalZ#3752: will be fine, 1155 is just 4c
Foxious#1859: well a I9 is not something you pair with a 140 euro mobo now is it?
MythologicalZ#3752: defs not an asus z390
MythologicalZ#3752: z390 ud would be fine with it
MythologicalZ#3752: but then you have ud bios
Foxious#1859: Not any 140 euro mobo, period
Foxious#1859: you would go to about 200 euro range |
MythologicalZ#3752: no, ud is valid because giga beefed up vrms
Foxious#1859: Ud?
MythologicalZ#3752: z390 ud
Foxious#1859: i see
MythologicalZ#3752: cheap and mostly junk gigabyte
MythologicalZ#3752: but the vrm is solid with some airflow for 5ghz 8c/16t
Foxious#1859: i mean i have quite beefy vram cooling
MythologicalZ#3752: can run passive too
Foxious#1859: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786291940441718814/carousel-item-5.png
Foxious#1859: dont know alot about vrams but that looks quite good
Foxious#1859: but there is a bunch of uncooled vrams next to them
MythologicalZ#3752: it wont help much
MythologicalZ#3752: anyway it will be alright for a 9700k
MythologicalZ#3752: no ht to worry over
Foxious#1859: yes |
JustinXenyx#8854: is the 9700k even a sensible upgrade from a 9400F though?
RyuuKuro#7616: Hey guys can a burnt ram damaged a processor
JustinXenyx#8854: That's quite a vague and specific question
JustinXenyx#8854: The kind-of vague and short answer is: Depends
MythologicalZ#3752: likely not since the board just wont post it
JustinXenyx#8854: It depends on what happened
Foxious#1859: @JustinXenyx well the I7 has alot more power than the I5 and can be overclocked
JustinXenyx#8854: If the ram shorted out during use you might've killed a memory channel or the entire memory controller
JustinXenyx#8854: "alot more" is quite the overstatement, OCing is a decent point though
MythologicalZ#3752: oh yeah something like that could happen
JustinXenyx#8854: however how much is it? that's the real important thing @Foxious
Foxious#1859: well see in about 2 years
Muse#0557: Honestly i wouldn't upgrade unless it's a 9900k
mi3night#2562: yeah unless you live in the US market where a 9700k is like $200
MythologicalZ#3752: 9900k was 300 not long ago |
mi3night#2562: yup
Muse#0557: I doubt they're still that price
Muse#0557: In both cases
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786295279120809993/unknown.png
mi3night#2562: right now
MythologicalZ#3752: old stock meme
MythologicalZ#3752: not a terrible deal all things considered
Muse#0557: 330 for a 9900k is swag
mi3night#2562: /convert 330 usd gbp
Currency Converter Bot#4703: 330.0 USD = GBP 248.95
MythologicalZ#3752: THE new 2700x
mi3night#2562: i dont recommend a 9600k
mi3night#2562: from 9400f ofc
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah
mi3night#2562: ur better off going ryzen |
Muse#0557: 9600k is just a spicy 9400f
mi3night#2562: if u want a better 6c cpu
Muse#0557: He has the Intel mobo?
Deleted User#0000: thats a lot of good boy points
Muse#0557: What are you smoking
mi3night#2562: i meant platform switch
Muse#0557: That's just a headache
mi3night#2562: yeah but thats what im saying
mi3night#2562: 9600k aint worth it
mi3night#2562: @Foxious how much is 9700k/9900k
MythologicalZ#3752: he is looking to get an i7 in like 2 years time
Muse#0557: O
Muse#0557: Why is he asking now then
Muse#0557: Boi
MythologicalZ#3752: it came up, iirc he didnt ask about anything |
MythologicalZ#3752: idk
MythologicalZ#3752: z390 ud 👍
Muse#0557: Oof
Foxious#1859: god damnit you lads
Foxious#1859: you never read older messages do ye?
Foxious#1859: i should add that my games rarely change so that 9700K should be more than enough along with a 1080ti for any games i will play in the near-ish future
RyuuKuro#7616: Yup the cpu dead tried it with other cpu and it works fine
Alcyone#2233: @Tech Helper I am having an issue with my 290, the fan furthest from IO doesnt spin until ~10v when I put it on dc power, but it spins freely by hand, bearing feels fine. The solder connections on the motor are good and the cable ohms out proper. Should I tear it apart a 3rd time and remove the blade assembly or is the motor just worn the f out. Never had a fan with a good bearing not work right, dont know whats up.
Budget#8265: Sounds like resistance from the motor itself?
Budget#8265: possibly
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd take it apart and check the resistance @Alcyone
JustinXenyx#8854: Might me that the motor is just shitting itself from age
Alcyone#2233: ahh good idea, I'll check resistance at the terminals on the motor. thanks guys
Alcyone#2233: tomorrow, already did the 17 screw dissasembly/assembly twice this morning
Alcyone#2233: 6 years old, cant be angry at it |
Yon#7961: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786389649517183038/20201209_191828.jpg
Yon#7961: the other disks ain't appearing
mi3night#2562: @Yon https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786390434678308884/unknown.png
mi3night#2562: get in there and see if it's in there
Yon#7961: ok
Yon#7961: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786391215306047498/20201209_193742.jpg
Yon#7961: which one
Gamefreak924#5901: What's better than GIMP but also free?
Gamefreak924#5901: GIMP is so buggy
Gamefreak924#5901: It hates me if I want to switch between using a mouse or tablet at any time
Deleted User#0000: what do you need it for?
Deleted User#0000: Drawing? Photo manipulation?
Deleted User#0000: For basic photo manipulation on Windows, I would recommend Paint.NET: https://www.getpaint.net/
For drawing and such, I would recommend Krita: https://krita.org/en/
Gamefreak924#5901: both, actually. Which is why I miss PS |
Gamefreak924#5901: I'll try out Krita. Thanks.
Deleted User#0000: you are welcome
Deleted User#0000: somethings being fucky with one of my computers
Deleted User#0000: it wont load into an OS or installation drive or anything
Deleted User#0000: just freezes or restarts
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Can you provide more details?
Deleted User#0000: how so
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Like what OS or machine specs?
Deleted User#0000: same shit with windows 7 or 10
Deleted User#0000: mf has a xeon e5450 with 8gb of ddr2 and uhh some graphics card
Deleted User#0000: workedc gfine with the old motherboard..
Deleted User#0000: so i dont know if this new one has an issue with the cpu itself or soemtrhing with the sata controller
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Have you connected your HDD/SSD drive to a different SATA port?
Lady Mipha#0611: @JustinXenyx jow safe is it to ne smelling runner like smell from phone? can’t type correctly
JustinXenyx#8854: what |
Lady Mipha#0611: @JustinXenyx n’s are b’s and j’s are h’s
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Why do I have a Scottish vibe from this
JustinXenyx#8854: i got that, i am asking what the fuck is "smelling runner like smell"
JustinXenyx#8854: OH ITS RUBBER
JustinXenyx#8854: NOW IT CLICKED
JustinXenyx#8854: DAMN
JustinXenyx#8854: aight imma head out
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Oh no
JustinXenyx#8854: clearly i'm retarded
JustinXenyx#8854: :Xdxdxd:
Lady Mipha#0611: touch screen not typing correctly
JustinXenyx#8854: I literally got EVERYTHING except rubber
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: You are not alone
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: K then
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @Lady Mipha Aside from the touch screen, everything else is fine? |
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah no that's no good smell from a phone @Lady Mipha
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Failing touchscreen and smell of rubber
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: OH GOD
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I think I know what it is
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: The battery is bulging
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: And probably burning or something
Lady Mipha#0611: ok see you in 5 jours
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What
Lady Mipha#0611: turning off phone
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Do it ASAP
Lady Mipha#0611: Back to say it's off
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What to do, what to do....
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I think you should open it up and see what is happening
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Although that could be quite risky
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What's the model of the phone |
Lady Mipha#0611: Iphone SE 1st gen
Lady Mipha#0611: dont have tools for that
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It's an iPhone, so that's a no-go
TofuDelivery86#8914: anyone know if tape modding a 1066mhz fsb cpu in a Q965 board would work? mine (Intel DQ965GF) specifically won't support 1333mhz fsb cpus so not sure if it will be stable
TofuDelivery86#8914: specifically trying a C2D E6600, but I'll probably get a Q6600 or Q6700 sometime soon ig
DarknessFalls229#2286: @TofuDelivery86 well if your board doesnt support 1333MHz CPUs i highly doubt setting the FSB for a CPU to 1333 will work, but doesnt hurt to try, its only a piece of tape
TofuDelivery86#8914: yeah fair
read bio/description#8459: Whats the performance difference between an RX 470 and 480? Assuming they are both 4GB ofc.
Budget#8265: 5-10%
Budget#8265: Usually 3-8Fps
read bio/description#8459: So it's not worth spending another 20 quid on a RX 480 and I should just go for the 470?
read bio/description#8459: Thought the fps difference is way bigger.
read bio/description#8459: Yeah, seems its about 5-15% from what I see on youtube. Well, 40 fps is better than 30 for sure, so I'll just stay on the look out, see if anything pops out.
Bae#4506: i pluged in my ssd in to main xp computer and gpu died when i started it and now i used it on my vista pc and the gpu on that died what the fuck is happening
DarknessFalls229#2286: 2 for 2 |
DarknessFalls229#2286: either really bad luck, or somethings fucky
Bae#4506: yea it got a error code so i pluged it in to the xp compurer to see if it just needed a bios update and when i started it the gpu died
Bae#4506: it was error reading hard drive or something like that
Bae#4506: no code but eh
Bae#4506: what is happening is it the ssd or something
Bae#4506: it was working before i changed it
Bae#4506: same day and everything
D.D.M#8226: So i have a graphics card that is missing some of the thermal pads for the vrms and will a small amount of thermal be good enough?
Un karr#9168: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786649748470759505/20201210_204505.jpg
Un karr#9168: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786649787588018196/20201210_204516.jpg
Un karr#9168: Can u guys help me
Un karr#9168: Im not good at cable management at all so can i have some advice pleae
Un karr#9168: Please
Alcyone#2233: doesnt look like you have any routing in that old case
Alcyone#2233: just try and stuff everything in the 5.25 bay and behind the hard drive cage |
Un karr#9168: Ok will do
Bae#4506: intel stock cooler gang
Un karr#9168: lol
Raw_Umber#0600: Hey all, I've been having a problem in last few days with my pc. After 30 min to an 1.5hr of gaming it suddenly restarts no BSOD. I've tried running prime95, furmark, and memtest64, and I haven't had a problem there..any idea?
Specs:
Asrock b450m pro4
Psu- evga BA600w
Cpu- r5 3600
Gpu- sapphire rx580 8gb
Ram- 16gb corsair vengeance lpx 3200mhz
Starburst#3734: Can anyone help me with an ASUS P7H55-M PRO and fan speed control?
The United States Air Force#7904: open the phone up carefully and remove battery abd throw the battery away
The United States Air Force#7904: fudge
The United States Air Force#7904: I need to read the time
Bae#4506: can anyone can help me with this i would like to save the money of buying a new one cause i have no hdd or ssd left |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: So, 2 PCs that you have plugged this SSD in, the GPUs died? Dedicated or onboard GPU?
Bae#4506: one onboard
Bae#4506: this was the first one i cant find any provlems with it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786737575117193246/image0.jpg
Bae#4506: that is shorter that is all https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786737767078035461/image0.png
Lady Mipha#0611: that's normal
Bae#4506: ah
Racey#8574: Some GPUs are missing some but still work
Bae#4506: yea
Bae#4506: i pluged out the hdd cause ssd was saying disk read error or something like that put the ssd in and gpu was dead after working like 2 minutes before
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: The SSD shorts the PC?
Bae#4506: only fpu
Bae#4506: and it killed both of them
Bae#4506: it did nothing with no ssd either
Bae#4506: could not enter bios nothing
Bae#4506: not even outputing a video signal |
Bae#4506: everything wlse is fine
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: We might have a "USB killer" situation here
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: But instead of the whole PC it is only the GPU
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: For some odd reason
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Maybe your PSU?
Bae#4506: ssd has worked for several years tho
Bae#4506: its a seagate 80gig
Bae#4506: or 120
Bae#4506: i forgot
Bae#4506: anyways im going to sleep now getting up im like 4 hours dm me if tou find anything
Bertie Kemp#1114: friend wants a pc to upgrade from a dual core laptop, wants it as cheap as possible, how usable would a fx8320 with like 16gb ram and a decent gpu be? like a 970? Would be playing games like gmod and space engineers
Bae#4506: get a rtx 3090 intel core i910900k 64 gigs ram and 16 tb storage
Bertie Kemp#1114: thats helpful
Bae#4506: yes
Bae#4506: just fet something that works thats not too expensive |
Bertie Kemp#1114: what?
Bae#4506: like a 580ti i5 8gigs ram minimum id say
Bertie Kemp#1114: the point is i have a spare pc with an AM3 socket, want to spend like £150 max, and would need to be available by xmas, cex have fx8320 for like £40, and a 970 for £115
Bertie Kemp#1114: just seeing if the fx8320 is good enough for games like gmod and space engineers
Bae#4506: 970 is good
Cowsayspow62#8257: so I have my primary monitor plugged into my gpu, and my secondery plugged into my cpu's integrated graphics bc my secondery dosent have a corosponding port on my gpu, the thing is only my primary mnonitor connected to my gpu is not detected by mc pc. I am sure all the cables work, and I'm wondering if this could be fixed by a bios setting. Ive gotten this to work in the past with the same gpu, but this has stopped working scine I got a motherboard and cpu upgrade (i5 10400 and asrock z490 pro 4)
Raw_Umber#0600: Fx8320 is like $85 in the US :/
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @Cowsayspow62 Is it a 10400 and not a 10400*F*
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: And yes
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: There is a setting in the BIOS
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It's something about preferred graphics output
Gamefreak924#5901: if I plan to see sell a laptop that has a battery issue (won't work on battery, shows at 99%, not charging), should I just sell it without the battery?
Gamefreak924#5901: Also would I still be able to sell it as refurbished if I did technically refurbish it by replacing some parts?
Gamefreak924#5901: ebay
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 1. You should, tho I am not sure if it's the battery or the machine having issues. |
2. Yes
Jackloco#9187: so i have had a short conversation with corsair that boiled down to, they do not give any control over fan curves to the user. note there is only one 140mm fan for the corsair pro i180
Jackloco#9187: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786822289915248640/unknown.png
Jackloco#9187: my m.2s are cooking
Jackloco#9187: i am about to buy passive coolers but i have looked in the custom bios and in ICUE but it seems the engineers made sure that the user can't touch their fan curves
Jackloco#9187: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786822614319366154/unknown.png
Jackloco#9187: Francois N (Corsair)
Dec 10, 2020, 15:36 PST
Hello ,
Unfortunately there is no way for you to change or edit the fan. Its controlled solely by iCUE and is locked by iCUE's fan curves.
I forwarded your temps to our engineers and they decided these temps are fine. We went with these SSDs in particular because they have high thermal tolerances and are within the tested threshold. |
The fan is reliant on the coolant temperature and should top out at 1450 RPM. If your temperature reaches 55C and the fan speed doesn't increase then that's problematic.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: For the SSD, well, you can put a thermal pad over them I think
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Or those metal encasings or plates
Jackloco#9187: ye looks they are well used
Jackloco#9187: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786822880544948234/unknown.png
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Did you buy a Corsair One?
Jackloco#9187: ye
Jackloco#9187: i180
Jackloco#9187: the tall grey one
Jackloco#9187: i love it but just noticed after 6 hours of installing an m.2 that it's way too hot
Jackloco#9187: i was thinking of choking the coolants or breaking one of the pins to have the fan at max constantly
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Hmmmmmmmmm
Jackloco#9187: they haven't gotten back to me after i sent another screenshot but my m.2s idle at 55 and ramp up to 80
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Hmmmmmmm |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: There is one program
Jackloco#9187: is it the gecko one
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: That's way too hot
Jackloco#9187: ye thought so too
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: The gecko what
Jackloco#9187: well samsung magician said so
Jackloco#9187: ye i was trying out tons of programs
Jackloco#9187: iLink
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Have you touched on the SSD directly?
Jackloco#9187: iTuner
Jackloco#9187: wdym
Jackloco#9187: like physically touched the m.2 underload?
Jackloco#9187: it
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Yeah
Jackloco#9187: it's difficult to have the comp on and have the side panels off, the radiators are in the frames |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: https://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?p=999689
Jackloco#9187: but the inside of the case is hot to the touch when i was figuring out why the m.2 wasn't working after an hour of pulling it in out of the riser and the riser from the pcie slot
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: You are not alone lol
Jackloco#9187: so the custom fan thing
Jackloco#9187: funniest thing
Jackloco#9187: it'll just switch back to default
Jackloco#9187: furthermore, even when not leaving the menu and setting it to 100, it won't budge
Jackloco#9187: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786824399926853682/unknown.png
Jackloco#9187: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786824486274990100/unknown.png
Jackloco#9187: interesting enough, when i go under load the coolant gets hotter so the fan will spin up and cool off the m.2s
Jackloco#9187: however i put my little artic cooler desk fan where it is inside the case
Jackloco#9187: the fan case fan turned off because i was also cooling the cpu radiator down also
Jackloco#9187: yeah the forum post you sent i read before, i was hoping it was only for the older i160
Jackloco#9187: but this is a good test to see how good these passive heatsinks are
Jackloco#9187: gonna keep annoying them until the let the override go away |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Good luck...for the Corsair customer support
Jackloco#9187: ye
Jackloco#9187: no more phone calls
Jackloco#9187: only emails
Jackloco#9187: A https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786827422128799764/unknown.png
Jackloco#9187: A
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: :haha:
Jackloco#9187: this shit fucking turns off at 85
Jackloco#9187: it's going faster hotter https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786828724104462356/unknown.png
Jackloco#9187: wtf
TofuDelivery86#8914: concerning
TofuDelivery86#8914: get some sort of cooling on that drive before you suffocate it tbh
D.D.M#8226: Bruh how does an nvme ssd get that hot
D.D.M#8226: Get a fan before you melt it
D.D.M#8226: An 80mm should do it |
mi3night#2562: @Jackloco my 960 evo never top 40C even in video editing. It’s either your drive is defected or maybe your mobo is feeding too much power to ur SSD
D.D.M#8226: Hey guys so my friend told me that a shop near him was selling this pc https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786947122934841374/Screenshot_20201211-094218_Chrome.jpg
D.D.M#8226: Plus a 1tb hdd
D.D.M#8226: Good or bad?
D.D.M#8226: And if anybody knows how well will it perform in cp 2077
MythologicalZ#3752: what speed and config ram and what price
MythologicalZ#3752: 5500xt is just a navi 580/590
D.D.M#8226: About 700€
MythologicalZ#3752: cyberpunk is running like ass on everything atm
D.D.M#8226: Ram i think he said 3000mhz
MythologicalZ#3752: 1x16gb stick?
D.D.M#8226: Idk
D.D.M#8226: He still hasn't given me full info
MythologicalZ#3752: important to ask, you need dual channel for performance
MythologicalZ#3752: 700e is a bit steep though |
MythologicalZ#3752: but not too terrible
D.D.M#8226: Ye i know
D.D.M#8226: I asked him about dual config
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Probably use an A320
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What about PSU @D.D.M
D.D.M#8226: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786956741253398568/20201211_150051.jpg
D.D.M#8226: Heres a bigger list
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @Muse What do you think about this build for €700
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786959662209040394/Screenshot_20201211_141639_com.huawei.calculator.jpg
Muse#0557: This is the total I see
Muse#0557: That's GBP
Muse#0557: /convert 525 gbp eur
Currency Converter Bot#4703: 525.0 GBP = EUR 574.36
Yon#7961: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786960131073900554/20201211_091824.jpg
Yon#7961: why is it still separated |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Is it worth it in your opinion?
D.D.M#8226: Hmm
D.D.M#8226: Not really
D.D.M#8226: But the guy doesn't know alot about tech
D.D.M#8226: Let alone he has never built a pc
D.D.M#8226: So either he finds a better priced prebuilt, find the parts and let someone else build it or he builds it himself
Jackloco#9187: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/786822614319366154/unknown.png
Abe.#3344: What's better, 8gb of 3200mhz Ram or 32gb of 2400mhz (On Ryzen) for 3D stuff? Surely 32 is better right?
Jackloco#9187: to those wondering why my nvmes are burning
Jackloco#9187: it's corsair
Jackloco#9187: they have the only fan in the comp under bios and software lock
Jackloco#9187: https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Systems/CORSAIR-ONE/CORSAIR-ONE-PRO-i180-Compact-Workstation-Grade-PC/p/CS-9040001-NA
Jackloco#9187: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787022609808228422/-CS-9040001-NA-Gallery-CORSAIR-ONE-PRO-i180-01.png
Jackloco#9187: blows air out the top and the bottom sides are drilled out
Jackloco#9187: but i can't adjust fan curves |
Jackloco#9187: i bought two heatsinks yesterday but only one of the them is getting a full clamp
Jackloco#9187: the other one is going to be a laptop copper plate
Jackloco#9187: just not enough space for anything more because it's sandwiched against aluminum brace
Jackloco#9187: Corsair believes these temps are fine for m.2s
Jackloco#9187: motherboard is custom corsair refit of the asrock x299e-itx/ac
Jackloco#9187: i do have a question though
Jackloco#9187: can i turn a 3 pin into something where the comp can't control it?
Jackloco#9187: can i put like a dumby power connector between so the fan is at full blast all the time?
Alcyone#2233: just get a sata adapter
Alcyone#2233: run the fan on 12v, bios might throw a fit about no cpu fan connected though if its the only one
Jackloco#9187: apparenlty not considered a cpu fan
Jackloco#9187: "auxiliary fan"
Alcyone#2233: they locked the fan control in bios?
Jackloco#9187: i think there is a sata port open i can use
Jackloco#9187: yeah |
Alcyone#2233: trash
Jackloco#9187: nothing in bios
Jackloco#9187: doesn't even show up
Jackloco#9187: i checked every tab and where it should be
Jackloco#9187: the x299e software doesn't work
Alcyone#2233: its usually in PC health, or where the temps and voltages are displayed
Jackloco#9187: since corsair did something with this to where it's considered somethingh else
Alcyone#2233: oems be like that sometimes
Jackloco#9187: uh
Jackloco#9187: u know i didn't see pc health
Alcyone#2233: better to get something from a system integrator that just uses off the shelf parts and slaps it together for you
Jackloco#9187: the ez screen had voltages
Jackloco#9187: i know but this comp fit the bill well
Jackloco#9187: not a lot of space
Jackloco#9187: just relized i was cooking my only m.2 when i put a second one in |
Alcyone#2233: could get a sata adapter and add a fan somewhere
Jackloco#9187: no where to add fan
Jackloco#9187: the thing is full
Alcyone#2233: there has to be somewhere a 40mm could be zip tied
Jackloco#9187: i didn't take pics of the cpu side
Jackloco#9187: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787025822233788476/20201209_145722.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787025822849957909/20201209_150228.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787025823554469968/20201209_150525.jpg
Jackloco#9187: I did take a pic of the cpu side when installing the rizer board for the m.2
DarknessFalls229#2286: is that the cooking SSD?
Jackloco#9187: first cpu side, second gpu side, third top view (m.2 in the middle)
Jackloco#9187: cooking both m.2s yesa
Jackloco#9187: corsair said idle temps of 50 to 60 is k
Jackloco#9187: well 40 to 50
Abe.#3344: ^^^ is the performance difference that big?
Jackloco#9187: pain https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787026131928350740/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: if that board is dual bios you could try flashing an asrock bios to the backup |
Jackloco#9187: hmm
DarknessFalls229#2286: you _could_ buy the thickest of thermal pads to let them make contact to the case
Jackloco#9187: i have never flashed before
Jackloco#9187: was thinking that darkness
DarknessFalls229#2286: its stupid, but if it works...
Jackloco#9187: settled with a laptop m.2 heat sink for the sandwich
Jackloco#9187: and a full clamp for the rizer one
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah, adhering a heatsink to it might work aswell
Jackloco#9187: how do i know it's dual bios and or reflashable?
DarknessFalls229#2286: but that means adhesive be used
Jackloco#9187: eh
Jackloco#9187: ill keep the sticker on the m.2 there
DarknessFalls229#2286: theyre almost always metal stickers anyway
Jackloco#9187: ye
Jackloco#9187: im gonna double check where the main fan is connected |
Jackloco#9187: gonna see if i can plug it in somewhere else for raw power
Alcyone#2233: @Jacklocoits not dual bios, so flash is off the table for the average user
Jackloco#9187: uh fuc
Jackloco#9187: yeah idk what to do really
Jackloco#9187: there is a bios button on the back of the motherboard
Jackloco#9187: not sure what it does
Jackloco#9187: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787027774166401045/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: the asrock bios should have fan presets in the ez mode and have a fan utlility in advanced>h/w monitor https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787027816251916318/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: that button on the io clears cmos settings
Jackloco#9187: ah kk will not touch then
Jackloco#9187: ill double check h/w tab
Jackloco#9187: gonna do it now before anything else happens
Jackloco#9187: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787029147531739146/20201211_135108.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787029148929228850/20201211_135054.jpg
Jackloco#9187: Nothing on ez mode either
Jackloco#9187: Looks like corsair really screwed up |
DarknessFalls229#2286: wiiiiiiiiiiiiiide boi
Jackloco#9187: Very
Alcyone#2233: could be some funky way they have 2 aio running on a board with only 3 headers, this would be the setup for air cooled gpu and aio cpu https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787029271155179571/unknown.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: but really in no tab you can change fan profiles??
Jackloco#9187: I'm pretty sure you're correct on the case fan
Jackloco#9187: The cable comes out of their I think because it's not long
Alcyone#2233: looks like there is nothing hooked up to cpu headers and the chassis fan is already going full speed at 3000 rpm
Alcyone#2233: but 3000rpm also sounds like alot, maybe the chipset fan on the gpu is hooked to that
Jackloco#9187: Might be the pump at 3000 rpm
Alcyone#2233: ahh or the pump
DarknessFalls229#2286: wait
DarknessFalls229#2286: i may remember something
Alcyone#2233: must be the pump, looks like the vrm cooler is powered by the gpu https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787029794914828328/unknown.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: i think i remember someone saying that the preinstalled fan doesnt push enough air, so they replaced it with a different one
Jackloco#9187: That's the gpu cooler side |
Alcyone#2233: yeah I was just unsure of what device was at 3000rpm
Jackloco#9187: The cpu also has power going to it
Jackloco#9187: Tru
Alcyone#2233: I think your aio pump is on chassis header and I dunno what the fan is powered from
Jackloco#9187: No you were correct of the chassis fan on the top left of MB
Jackloco#9187: I'm sure it's getting power from there
Alcyone#2233: if you put aio on the cpu headers and the chassis fan on the chassis header it might help
DarknessFalls229#2286: so the AIO pump is connected to the chassis fan connector?
Alcyone#2233: looks like the chassis header is configured to run at full speed
Jackloco#9187: It kinda jumps around
Jackloco#9187: In icue it says 2000
Jackloco#9187: Bios reads 3000 to 3500
Jackloco#9187: I can try switching it around
Alcyone#2233: 3000 seems right for an aio pump
Jackloco#9187: However I'm afraid that if I switch the chassis fan low speed will be applied to the oump |
Alcyone#2233: speeeds should show up on the hw monitor tab if devices are on the cpu headers
Jackloco#9187: Is there a way to convert a 4 pin to a 3 pin so it loses control but keeps power? I can buy something since I already have lol
Jackloco#9187: So move the chassis fan to another cpu header?
Alcyone#2233: look at the pic I drew on
Jackloco#9187: Ill look and see if those two on the bottom right are already populated
Jackloco#9187: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787032287157157918/20201211_140508.jpg
Jackloco#9187: Very interesting. The chasis fan cable comes out of the cpu pump
Jackloco#9187: That's how they are controlling it
DarknessFalls229#2286: perhaps put the aio pump into the CPU header and the chassis fan into the chassis fan header
Jackloco#9187: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787032834849243166/20201211_140700.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787032836011720764/20201211_140717.jpg
Jackloco#9187: Indeed there's a single tiny cable going from the chassis header to the pump
Jackloco#9187: Probably for info
DarknessFalls229#2286: weird
Jackloco#9187: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787033850948878366/20201211_141119.jpg
Jackloco#9187: It looks like these are the other fan ports |
Jackloco#9187: Hmm maybe if I switch the pump controller to one of these
Jackloco#9187: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787036126464442398/20201211_141736.mp4
Jackloco#9187: Can't fit it
Jackloco#9187: Yeah I'll just email them everyday
Jackloco#9187: Or maybe
Jackloco#9187: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787036920101732363/20201211_142234.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787036920785141820/20201211_142224.jpg
Jackloco#9187: There are two connecters than I can reach
Jackloco#9187: Can I plug a 4 pin into one of those?
DarknessFalls229#2286: those arent fan headers?
Jackloco#9187: Idk how much power goes over sata nor do I know what bios-ph pins do
Deleted User#0000: if u want to be ghetto you could get a 12v wall adapter for 99 cents from goodwill and run a few fans off that
Jackloco#9187: Ghetto might be the only way to save my m.2s because corsiar told me to fuck off
Jackloco#9187: The fan headers are behind the data riser board
Jackloco#9187: I can't reach them even with pliers
Jackloco#9187: As I showed with the vid |
Jackloco#9187: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787038880083738665/20201211_143108.jpg
Jackloco#9187: Might go for a thermal pad for the top ssd
Alcyone#2233: you need some hemostats
Alcyone#2233: this looks like it would be the only way to get those fans plugged in without dissasembly https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787040276114964480/hemostat-serrated-curved-680FS__66518.png
Alcyone#2233: unless the panel right next to them comes off
Jackloco#9187: The front doesn't come off sadly
Jackloco#9187: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787043478919315457/20201211_144934.jpg
Jackloco#9187: I know you said no dual boot but I still can't put a new flash onto it?
Alcyone#2233: I would be weary of flashing an oem pc with a standard bios
Jackloco#9187: Good idea
Alcyone#2233: maybe contact support and see if it is possible first
Jackloco#9187: I'll reword it this time then
Alcyone#2233: if the board is not dual bios and bricks, a usb programmer and a 2nd pc is the only way to get ir running again at home
Jackloco#9187: Heh
Jackloco#9187: Good to know |
Jackloco#9187: How long do u think these m.2s will last at such high idles. Two years?
Alcyone#2233: maybe forever
Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/386696225740685323/549122908111503373/20190223_215730.jpg
this is what it looks like when you have to recover a bios with no laptop. getting to the bios chip on your system might not even be possible with the board in the case
Jackloco#9187: Omg
Jackloco#9187: I knew there's a good reason to be scared of bios updates
Alcyone#2233: if the bios chip isnt removeable, you have to take the cpu out and use a test clip on the chip which can be fiddly to get good contact
Alcyone#2233: cpu has to come out as the usb flasher is powered and sends 3.3-5v into the board
Jackloco#9187: Hmm sounds like cpr
Alcyone#2233: it is
Jackloco#9187: wild
Alcyone#2233: the proper software for CH341A can also be hard to find and isnt that user friendly
Jackloco#9187: yeesh
Jackloco#9187: i guess ill just yell at corsair when my m.2s burn out then i guess lol? |
Jackloco#9187: thank you so much for the help tho
Jackloco#9187: is there like a member upvote system or donation?
Alcyone#2233: dont worry about it, glad to help
Jackloco#9187: https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/666462572404539415.png?v=1
Jackloco#9187: the most empty of gifts
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Customer support usually doesn't approve of these things
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: So you are on your own
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @Jackloco Make sure you nail down which board this Corsair is using. Hopefully it's just a rebrand of the normal Asrock lineup
Alcyone#2233: it looks like a bog standard X299E-ITX
Alcyone#2233: I think corsair might have just specced a bios with less options exposed
Alcyone#2233: The fan cable setup on that overpriced pc is wonky af though and I would expect so much more for that kind of money.
Jackloco#9187: ye fan cable is somehow controlled by the cpu water block
Jackloco#9187: i think almost everything inside is more custom than i assumed to be
zwect#1210: so
zwect#1210: guys |
zwect#1210: my pc gives up 4 blue boxes
zwect#1210: that are like
zwect#1210: glitching blue pixels
zwect#1210: on the display, rtx and sum
zwect#1210: i've ran cyberpunk and it happened, last time was on gta 5 a month ago and on detroit become human
zwect#1210: now i've tried Furmark at the max settings and it didn't appear
zwect#1210: what is that?
Shakthi#1486: Hey i have a laptop that has a amd e1-6010 apu with r2 graphics.i'm planning to setup a external graphics card to the laptop.So,what graphics card I should use ?🤔🤔
Foxious#1859: E1
Foxious#1859: i believe i have had one of those
Foxious#1859: a celeron pretty much aint it?
Foxious#1859: i would get a cheap GTX 750 or a GT 1030 personally, if we are talking about the celeron perfomance cpu here
Shakthi#1486: Thanks 😃😃
Foxious#1859: no probs
D.D.M#8226: Nah |
D.D.M#8226: A 710
Razorsz#5056: the GTX 750 cards are bloated up in price imo since at the time is was a bang buck card, 1030 is over priced, i would say a GT610 is probs a decent offering to go with, considering how weak that 10W chip is, my core2duo e7400 was bottlenecked by a GT610 in my use cases, but its cheap ish and should go well with it, youll likely get a 720p low 30fps experience like my e7400 n gt 610 did @Shakthi
Razorsz#5056: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zotac-GT610-Synergy-Edition-1GB-DDR3-ZT-60602-10L-GPU-Graphics-Card-Tested/203112550563?hash=item2f4a7390a3:g:-AMAAOSwsnBfacNK
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zotac-GT610-Synergy-Edition-1GB-DDR3-ZT-60602-10L-GPU-Graphics-Card-Tested/283956759463?hash=item421d244ba7:g:broAAOSw99hfGVZq
Razorsz#5056: LP and full height one to consider, mines a 2GB model but these are a £20 ish option, they do OC a little bit too but you wont need to, should be alright for the 2 core e1-6010
Foxious#1859: Yes but a 610 is not that usual if you know what i mean
Foxious#1859: something like a 750 will have support
Razorsz#5056: irrc mine has support since its a display adapter, compared to fermi for eg
Razorsz#5056: but if im honest, it doesnt matter that much, when your hardware is that weak to have some optimisation to claim a few frames in a game, youe not playing cyberpunk on this lmao so any optimisations towards that aint gonna do shiz
Razorsz#5056: a 10W chip really cant do much with itself, i wouldnt recommend a GT210, cuz u can get a 610 for same price and itll have some headroom so you can put more load on the gpu and not the cpu inside
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: AMD E1
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Chrome is probably gonna choke on that thing
Razorsz#5056: **E**
Razorsz#5056: exactly, id pair it with a GT210 but you aint likely to game lmao, the GT610 will just help with video playback |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Literally the N3450 will punt kick it
Razorsz#5056: the optiplex machine i made for my parents does 1080p 30fps with the GT210 n e7400
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Or any cheap Celerons and Pentiums
Razorsz#5056: but yeah that 610 is cheap so y not .w.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Or Core 2 Duos for God's sake
Razorsz#5056: itll scorch my n450 tho :haha:
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Ouchie ouch
Foxious#1859: how bout something like a GT 430
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: If it's significantly cheaper than the GT 610, then yes
Razorsz#5056: ill try n find a listing but eh, depends what this dood tryna do
Razorsz#5056: ill look for listings
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Otherwise there's not much point
Razorsz#5056: i got my 2GB synergy GT610 off my mate for £5
Razorsz#5056: s c o r e
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: The 610 is newer and more capable at decoding videos I think |
Razorsz#5056: yeah its nice
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: But shit all the same
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: :haha:
Razorsz#5056: the GT210 struggles doign 60fps 720p n 1080p
Razorsz#5056: the gt610 does it fine
Razorsz#5056: 210 struggles to play source games, the gt610 will do an alright job
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Speaking of which
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: The external GPU connector is like, $50
Razorsz#5056: hahah the GT430 is £10 more on ebay
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Why not buy a new laptop at this point
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: If he's using those mini PCIe ones
Razorsz#5056: tbh yeah .w. but ye g610 best bet, use one of those mini pci-e to full dock thangs
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Like on LowSpecGamer
Razorsz#5056: i should do it on my n450, i think the 3150 media accel graphics are weaker than the atom, tho the lack of cache chokes the atom, maybe i should buy a cheap dock and use my GT210 on it, see how performance goes
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Oh boy |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I sense a whole lot of misery and trouble
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: The N450 is probably gonna be like: *end my suffering*
Razorsz#5056: i played unreal gold on it :'3 tho its bugged where dynamic lighting keeps turning on so my smooth 60fps gets jmps down to 22fps, which is annoying
Razorsz#5056: i mean, it is, i have win7 on it, and i plan to do an ISO of it then use rufus cuz ive made so many tweaks to it, gonna get some used 64GB ssd, dont need huge storage
Razorsz#5056: its "usable"
Razorsz#5056: but i kinda like laughing at struggling hardware, and i like using something/re-purposing it that someone else would throw out
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Hey can you send your profile pic here? I want to "experiment" with it a little bit
Razorsz#5056: mine?
Razorsz#5056: my cat? ~~Rest in peace~~
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Yeah
Razorsz#5056: its on my google photos or sumthin, hhhh
Razorsz#5056: i dont use that shite anymore xdd, why wut u wanna do with it
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Wanna try and improve it a little with AI upscaling and denoising
Razorsz#5056: tis an effect from my samsung galaxy tab 2, i like it, shame that tablet suddenly died :V
Razorsz#5056: gave it to my uncle, said they couldnt fix it, never saw it again xd |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Ouch
Razorsz#5056: it had this really cool effect, idk what it was cooled but heyo
Razorsz#5056: thing GPhotos compresse it rip https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787324362184851516/WWz6GlSBIaZX7Q_6APpH8PotsfUeXgxFaBWZjvRTHFr-jb3WTndt1d7uD_2kQEuEme9DGHu1410s4XoxgPzgneBpA3j_5k8A4oiv.png
Razorsz#5056: the camera on that tablet was real bad xd
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Holy shit
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Some cropping is required here
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: One min
Razorsz#5056: while the compression n grit is shit, i like how it brought out her colours, i love it, RIP ;_;
Razorsz#5056: 2014 irrc
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: She passed away?
Razorsz#5056: yeah, stomach tumour bursted, lead to spinal problems n neuron disease, was throwing up stomach blood n acids that burned her lips, tongue n gums, the side of her cheek had actually torn cuz the acid had worn thru it, wasnt fun having her on my lap for a while in that state, any patting would set her nerves off n she'd have a seizure so we legit had to wait for her body to give up poor thing, e put a cover over her to stop the light effecting her and eventually she passed
Razorsz#5056: think she was 13 y/o
Razorsz#5056: she really didnt want to go, always wanted cuddles but we couldn't she had a really bad one n fell off the chair onto the floor when i was asleep
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Sorry to hear that.
Razorsz#5056: tis fine, just kinda nnoying how my dog has pulled a muscle on her front leg or been a bit too excited and hurt her back a little, someone also broke thru my postage for money today aswell so yeah, 2020 is just, hhh, im going to launch it on a trebuchet into space |
Razorsz#5056: and my bulb just blew out, hhhhhhhh
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What is this streak of bad luck lol
Razorsz#5056: thats not even the worst of it :V
Razorsz#5056: microwave just gave out, thats after the oven, dishwasher went and the fridge is being a bit of an arse, car just blew its brake line, bro had to walk home cuz train cancelled, and its a logn walk ,only to go to KFC for his bday to grab food and the QR machine was broken, had the gpu n display die
D.D.M#8226: Bryg
D.D.M#8226: Bruh
D.D.M#8226: Jesus
D.D.M#8226: I thought i had the worst year
Razorsz#5056: c': oh theres more, just the postman decided to knock n wake my dad up -.- had a psu blowout n some other tech go bye bye, yerp..aint bee na good year, there was also covid disrupting my FMP college project, which if done was gonna be submitted around n i might have landed a job at codemasters, but nope c:
Razorsz#5056: ngl im surprised my cast iron bath hasnt fallen through and collapsed the kitchen yet
Razorsz#5056: my tumble dryer also melted its plug n caused a small fire at the start of the year. fun times
Deleted User#0000: what the hell
Razorsz#5056: c':
Deleted User#0000: you alright dude?
Razorsz#5056: my sanity and well being has dropped past the point of caring, all i know is my old PC is somewhat functional and i may faf with that and let old Hard drive noises distract me |
Deleted User#0000: I mean
Deleted User#0000: it's something
zwect#1210: lol no one said anything
Razorsz#5056: 4 blue boxes, well, what are we talkin here, dead pixels? elaborate
zwect#1210: i mean, i had old photos but didnt take yesterday
zwect#1210: it happened in 3 games
zwect#1210: Detroit, Gta Online and Cyberpunk
both three had models stretching but it was like one model and then never happened again
zwect#1210: ive ran tests like 3DMark and stuff and that didnt happen
zwect#1210: Modern Warfare and others never gave that
zwect#1210: and about the boxes..
zwect#1210: they appear to be small glitching squares on screen but if its not 4 then its 2
and happened only 2 times on cyberpunk
after a restart on the second time
the GPU ran at 71C or so and it didnt repeat for 2 hours |
zwect#1210: driver or game issues?
zwect#1210: also
they were small as a mouse cursor
zwect#1210: so not big checkerboard shit
zwect#1210: and i think detroit only had huge graphical glitches, it didnt have those squares
so may be game problem
D.D.M#8226: I feel sorry for you raz
zwect#1210: wow, what happened..
D.D.M#8226: Wdym
zwect#1210: ah
what raz said before
just scrolled through rn
D.D.M#8226: Ye
zwect#1210: also
zwect#1210: my model is this one |
zwect#1210: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/gigabyte-rtx-2070-gaming-3x-oc.b6184
xmassguy#1303: I have an older i5 3450 cpu based computer with a 120 gb ssd and 8gb of ram I would like to convert it into a computer to hoast a farm sim server what do yall recommend I upgrade I know I need to install more ram but im looking to see what cpu I should go with also I have an xfx 570 2gb I would put in it
xmassguy#1303: farm sim 19 minimum requerments are i3-2100t 4gb of ram and a gtx 650 or a radeon hd 7770
DarknessFalls229#2286: well, since youre planning to run a server get something with high clockspeeds and much ram
DarknessFalls229#2286: so basicly an i7 3770, 8GBs more RAM and the game hosted on Ethernet and nice fast storage as an SSD would do good i reckon
xmassguy#1303: Ok so your sayin get the best cpu the mobo will handle and as much ram as I can afford or that maxes out the chip set
DarknessFalls229#2286: or what fits in your budget
xmassguy#1303: yep
DarknessFalls229#2286: like just 8GBs more ram is already pretty decent
DarknessFalls229#2286: as i7's are usually expensive
xmassguy#1303: do you think that would run better than my current pc with an fx 8350 black 24gb of ram 16 usable 1tb hdd and a 1060 6gb
DarknessFalls229#2286: well the thing is
DarknessFalls229#2286: the fx 8350 has terrible IPC
DarknessFalls229#2286: as IPC is what games and servers almost always love
DarknessFalls229#2286: so, aside from the amount of threads, its not a good server CPU |
DarknessFalls229#2286: the rest is top
kittycat959#2895: and dreadful core to core latency
DarknessFalls229#2286: ah yeah that too
xmassguy#1303: ok so if I sell my pc parts mand go to ryzen from the fx for my main rig and upgrade the i5 in the other pc then it would be a decent set up
DarknessFalls229#2286: sure, but once again, upgrading the i5 pc to 16GBs of ram is already great
DarknessFalls229#2286: i do recommend ryzen as a replacement of your FX machine
xmassguy#1303: yep also I could take my ddr3 from my main rig and put it with the i5 and have that set up as a server too
xmassguy#1303: if I go to ryzen would my 1060 6gb perform better aswell? because right now in my games task mgr says my gpu is pegged at 95 to 100% usage with 50 on the cpu
DarknessFalls229#2286: YES
DarknessFalls229#2286: with a CPU with better IPC and clockspeed you will get higher FPS, better 1% and 0.1% lows
xmassguy#1303: Great
DarknessFalls229#2286: especially those framedips and frametime consistency will become better
xmassguy#1303: ok so if I upgrade to a ryzen 1600af or better I wount need to upgrade my gpu with it
DarknessFalls229#2286: yup
xmassguy#1303: ok thank you for the help |
DarknessFalls229#2286: no prob
xmassguy#1303: what is the difference between fclga1155 an lga1155
DarknessFalls229#2286: no idea but probably not significant
xmassguy#1303: ok i didn't see anything on google about it but that i5 I have is fclga as long as i can put lga in that socket it should be fine
Razorsz#5056: @zwect i would honestly go for a driver reinstall, i faintly remember something similar happening to me in GTA V and a reinstall fixed things
zwect#1210: oh ok
Razorsz#5056: weeelp to make 2020 even worse, my uncle just died in hospital, he went in for some checkup, then caught covid whilst he was staying there, was gonna go visit, no point now ._.
mi3night#2562: F
Razorsz#5056: tf u mean F mang
mi3night#2562: Press f to pay respects
Razorsz#5056: :Fish1::Fish2::Fish3:
Razorsz#5056: cant pay when your broke :Hahahahaha:
mi3night#2562: https://tenor.com/view/press-f-pay-respect-coffin-burial-gif-12855021
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: OMG. My condolences.
Razorsz#5056: egh, s'fine, not even surprised at this point that more stuff goes ta shite |
Lady Mipha#0611: https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress2-pay-respects-press-f-gif-14764178
The United States Air Force#7904: Damn, my condolences
The United States Air Force#7904: F in the chat
Razorsz#5056: just wish i couldve called em but they could barely speak by the time i was free from college shiz :v
mxckzy#0744: i have a ryzen 3 1200 and gtx 970 atm and i am looking for a cpu uphrade with a budget of about £130 have you guys got any suggestions?
Razorsz#5056: @mxckzy whats ya motherboard
mxckzy#0744: gigbyte b450m ds3h
Razorsz#5056: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-RYZEN-5-1600-R5-1600-6-Core-YD1600BBM6IAE-3-2-GHz-Scket-AM4-Processors-CPU/264846978911?epid=12017815734&hash=item3daa1c2f5f%3Ag%3A6uUAAOSw2pFevUiM&LH_BIN=1
Razorsz#5056: there seems to be a couple ryzen 5 1600s from the same seller in china, if you dont mind waiting until the end of December on delivery to get this chip for this price is good, a 3300x will beat it in games but the extra 2 cores n 4 threads make it good for other applications also
Razorsz#5056: sadly the 1600AF refresh is real scarce but the og one here is still a great option
mxckzy#0744: ill likely go with a 1600 as that leaves me with budget for an aftermarket cooler too
Razorsz#5056: do you have a stealth cooler on your 1200?
mxckzy#0744: ive currently got my 1200 oc at 1650mhz on stock cooler
mxckzy#0744: yeah
Razorsz#5056: its good up to 65W which the 1600 is |
Razorsz#5056: so i doubt youll need a cooler upgrade really
mxckzy#0744: id like to oc it also
mxckzy#0744: so temps might get a bit high im feeling
Razorsz#5056: perhaps, you might be able to push for 3.9ghz, ive seen some do 4.1 if lucky but eh, lemme go see if i can find a decent cooler, tho your 970 wouldnt help the oc much, it'll fall behind
mxckzy#0744: yeah ive got my 970 as far as it can go on my config at 3746mhz
Razorsz#5056: whats at 3746
mxckzy#0744: core clock
mxckzy#0744: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787459337903144960/unknown.png
Razorsz#5056: also, £150 ish 1650, nice budget for an upgrade, yes the super exists yada yada, but they push up into 1660 range
Razorsz#5056: on what exactly, memory?
mxckzy#0744: nvm thats wrong
Razorsz#5056: aint no way u pushing that high on core clock speed lmao
mxckzy#0744: what would you reccomend for now cpu or gpu upgrade
Razorsz#5056: cpu obvs
mxckzy#0744: atm on bf1 im getting like 40 fps no matter what settings with my cpu pinned at 100 lmao |
Razorsz#5056: considering rn those 1600s are a decent deal, you can upgrade your gpu later cuz that 1200 is weak
mxckzy#0744: yeahhh i might just keep with wraith stealth for a while thrn save for an aio
mxckzy#0744: mainly for aethstetics lmao
Razorsz#5056: you dont need an aio, sod aesthetics :v when ye on a tight budget, whatever does the job works
Razorsz#5056: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Heatpipes-Installation-RR-H412-20PK-R2/dp/B076MQBZ2L/ref=sr_1_16?dchild=1&keywords=cpu+cooler&qid=1607815402&sr=8
mxckzy#0744: truetrue
Razorsz#5056: £20, fab deal for its cooling, i have one thats identical, not same brand, but does well, even has a better plate on the bottom so
zwect#1210: 2070 running Cyberpunk smoothly at RT Medium preset DLSS Balanced at 768P
zwect#1210: lol
Razorsz#5056: yikes, ngl i wouldnt even use RT on that game until theres some optimisations
mxckzy#0744: id eventually like to get 150fps most games at 1080 since for christmas im getting a 144hz monitor
zwect#1210: it looks way good for me to disable so yeahh ik thats a hit gay
zwect#1210: a bit*
zwect#1210: i may disable it IF it runs at 1080p smoothly
zwect#1210: let me just save my preset in a print |
Razorsz#5056: i like me some visuals but most games just look so much nicer with a smoother 75fps and ill take that over being able to see secret penis statues in the water reflections lmao
Razorsz#5056: gpu when u can upgrade, £150 ish: https://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-GeForce-GDDR6-GAMING-04G-P4-1455-KR/dp/B08CNP6LYK/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=evga+1650&qid=1607815637&sr=8-5
£20 cpu cooler that will do the job for a decent OC on the 1600: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Heatpipes-Installation-RR-H412-20PK-R2/dp/B076MQBZ2L/ref=sr_1_16?dchild=1&keywords=cpu+cooler&qid=1607815402&sr=8
£90 ryzen 1600: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-RYZEN-5-1600-R5-1600-6-Core-YD1600BBM6IAE-3-2-GHz-Scket-AM4-Processors-CPU/264846978911?epid=12017815734&hash=item3daa1c2f5f%3Ag%3A6uUAAOSw2pFevUiM&LH_BIN=1
tot: around £260
~~i'd hold off on the 144hz monitor until you have to 1600 n 1650~~
Razorsz#5056: @mxckzy
Razorsz#5056: what your ram kit atm btw
mxckzy#0744: two 8 gb dims of hyperx fury 2666
Razorsz#5056: y i k e s
mxckzy#0744: lmao |
Razorsz#5056: at least dual channel bu why 2666mhz xd
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 2666Mhz
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Noooooooooooo
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 3200Mhz is dirt cheap
mxckzy#0744: it was on sale when i upgraded from am3+
Razorsz#5056: i mean hey if you got it cheap but, yeah 3000mhz even 3200 is cheap, tho im glad its dual channel, i would take 2666mhz dual channel over a single 3000mhz stick .w.
mxckzy#0744: i had like 150 for cpu mobo and ram
mxckzy#0744: upgrading from a phenom 2 x4 965
Razorsz#5056: fairs, i got a 2x4 2400mhz vengeance kit for freeee xD not gonna use it if i make a ryzen system, keep it around or sell it on, tho its probs gonna be used in a testbed system
mxckzy#0744: my pc now feels like lightening compared to my first system
mxckzy#0744: i had 8gb ddr3 1600 phenom 2 x4 965 and a gtx 460
mxckzy#0744: and tbh i only got the 144hz monitor for csgo since i wanna have a high osh refresh rate monitor since im getting 200 fps average and it was on sale for 140 on black friday
Razorsz#5056: i just restored my original pc, the first one i ever had, its og GPU needs a recap, but its so nice to have around again, 2000s PC boii, semperon 2800+, 512MB ram, FX5200, my first upgrade was RAM :'3 i learnt how to put my first ram stick in, as soon as i saw the shiny AMD logo on the cooler and that sexy FX5200, i was hooked into PCs
Razorsz#5056: not too bad, whats the monitor?
mxckzy#0744: https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/electriq-25-full-hd-hdr-165hz-freesync-usb-c-gaming-monitor-eiq-25fhdo165fsguc/version.asp?refsource=ldadwords&mkwid=sa7cRGLDv_dc&pcrid=442439376223&product=eiQ-25FHDO165FSGUC&pgrid=105348862209&ptaid=pla-785889791678&channel=googlesearch&gclid=Cj0KCQiAnb79BRDgARIsAOVbhRq6GBBpIgrk8Qe-UPxsgt7ENTF3XVK7ry__vkRFE8I82M925J4U0GMaApLkEALw_wcB |
mxckzy#0744: seemed fine for the price
mxckzy#0744: not the best but hey hp
mxckzy#0744: ho
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Hold your horses
Razorsz#5056: TN panel w0t
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What's your total budget for the upgrade? You need a monitor and CPU? @mxckzy
mxckzy#0744: nah monitor is just a christmas present from my parents
Razorsz#5056: yeye
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Personally I have never heard of this electriQ brand
mxckzy#0744: 130 for cpu
Razorsz#5056: im im 100% honest i think ive seen better monitors 144hz when i was lookin, hol up ill pull em up if i can find em, have u bought this monitor yet or no
mxckzy#0744: yes
Razorsz#5056: its common in like, schools n shit as those bulk oem brand shiz things they do
mxckzy#0744: it was ordered on black friday i believe
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: lol |
Razorsz#5056: ah ok, welp, u stuck with it kekkles
Razorsz#5056: this reminds me
Razorsz#5056: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787463972819435530/electricc.png
Razorsz#5056: meme when my sockets fried emselves
mxckzy#0744: i mean the one i got now is a 21ich iiyama monitor that 75hz
Razorsz#5056: Electri**Q**
mxckzy#0744: omg lmao
Razorsz#5056: llama monitor
Razorsz#5056: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787464096081117224/695691918465564763.png
mxckzy#0744: yes
mxckzy#0744: wait
mxckzy#0744: no
mxckzy#0744: LMAO
Razorsz#5056: FUCKING TWAT OF A PC, closed all my opera tabs down cuz the explorer window was a hair off the top
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Ouchie ouch |
Razorsz#5056: *eeeeeeeeeeeee*
mxckzy#0744: https://www.novatech.co.uk/products/iiyama-g-master-ge2288hs-b1-21-5-inch-led-monitor/ge2288hs-b1.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiA8dH-BRD_ARIsAC24umaYM_oGrf23tLYcpdnv6VXTrmeNTyTSo7hBYCWcLO6FHX0yayVb204aAt_PEALw_wcB
mxckzy#0744: thatsh what i had for the last couple years
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: UK is strange
Razorsz#5056: wys ab the uk
Razorsz#5056: 🖖 :gourmet: 🖕
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Today alone I have heard about 2 unknown brands
Razorsz#5056: bruh these are ching chong specials idk wut u on about :Hahahahaha:
Razorsz#5056: The 22'' G-MASTER GE2288HS known as Black Hawk is the perfect companion at your side. **Hard-bitten and trust-worthy, it will make your enemies shiver.**
mxckzy#0744: i just buy cheap ish peripherals because i cant afford massilvely expensive parts
Razorsz#5056: 🅱️ruh
mxckzy#0744: like fuck off am i spending 400 on a monitor
Razorsz#5056: THAT 75 HZ MAKES ME CSGO ENEMIES QUIBBLE IN THEIR PANTIES
mxckzy#0744: honestly
Razorsz#5056: i mean 400 on a monitor, sounds like the peeps who buy all ROG or corsair gear just cuz it matches |
mxckzy#0744: accurate
Razorsz#5056: *oooo my 2200g has a 240mm aio yoooo, and my 1650s looks like a 2060KO, bam i look good to everyone else, its as if i buy things to make other people happy instead of myself*
Razorsz#5056: the only gripe i have with PCs is mismatched fans, like, hhhhh, sorry but matching fans looks guud, sod the rgb rainbows, some nice dark lookin fans, swooping design, m o i s t
mxckzy#0744: My godlike setup https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787465636200579072/image0.jpg
mxckzy#0744: ignore the cables under the desk
Razorsz#5056: your chair looks like some soviet car seat
Razorsz#5056: no i wont ignore them jared
Razorsz#5056: :Hahaha:
mxckzy#0744: i cant fit a full desk in my room so i have one of those high beds with a desk underneath
Razorsz#5056: tho my seat looks like a ghetto car seat and kills my back, but broke init
mxckzy#0744: oh yeah and i dont have a window so imagine being in summer pc fucking dying and having no windows
mxckzy#0744: d e a d
Razorsz#5056: ayyy i used to rock that hahah, i ripped out the sofa n had my core2duo pc under there, i shouldve taken a pic, i think i have one somewhere on an old phone
Razorsz#5056: ok but like, u have a pc? just put the fans on max smh, point towards u
Razorsz#5056: :haha: |
mxckzy#0744: not a bad idea...
mxckzy#0744: lol 2 of my case fans are like 50p each
Razorsz#5056: when i was cold i used to use my athlon 880k as a heater c':
Razorsz#5056: wtf 🤣
mxckzy#0744: my 2 intakes are from my old £15 xase
mxckzy#0744: one of them is from my current case which is full rgb and thst
Razorsz#5056: big bruh moment, ppl who have bock off front panels n put the rgb fans at the front n cheap at back where they cant see em,
mxckzy#0744: i need two more to match but i cba to spend £15 per fan
Razorsz#5056: well, do what i did, spend £15 for 5
mxckzy#0744: lmao
mxckzy#0744: im mega ocd about matching fans and stuff i could never
mxckzy#0744: like having these two red shits in my case makes me wanna off mysekf
Razorsz#5056: fam
Razorsz#5056: when i got this pack, it was £13
Razorsz#5056: no discount |
Razorsz#5056: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Arctic-P12-Value-Pack-Pressure-optimised/dp/B07HC7P3HJ/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=arctic+5+fan+value+pack&qid=1607817074&sr=8-8
Razorsz#5056: now its £22, the cheek smh
Razorsz#5056: but theyre great fans
mxckzy#0744: but, no rgb:Hahahahaha:
mxckzy#0744: illegal
Razorsz#5056: ***who fucking cares about the hamster powering your RGB***
mxckzy#0744: me
mxckzy#0744: i do
Razorsz#5056: "hey nice rgb"
its fucking purple jared, wheres the red green and blue you toaster
Razorsz#5056: id recommend uphere but ppl clouted them so now they suck themselves off into being a good company and the airflow is meh
Bae#4506: what kind of rx vega 56 is this is it sone custom rhing cause i have looked all over google and cant find another one https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787467225685557338/image0.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787467226012975124/image1.jpg
Bae#4506: i am confused
mxckzy#0744: imma probably just use chritmas money to buy a couple fans
mxckzy#0744: since ill only get like £20 max |
Bae#4506: yo take a trip to my basement i have like 50 fans
Razorsz#5056: ngl just get the back i sent lol, you'll love the design and sod rgb just get a £3 LED strip to put around ur case xd
mxckzy#0744: might just get those black ones and use them in front
mxckzy#0744: you cant see them anyway knao
Razorsz#5056: also Bae i think someone bought the arctic twin nitro cooler heatsink and slapped it on that V56 with 2 120mm P12 fans from Arctic
Razorsz#5056: my friend is gonna send me one, he has the heatsink n mounting stuff, all i need is the shroud n fans thats like £6 and i can have a chonky cooler and silent gpu,
mxckzy#0744: btw
mxckzy#0744: is a 500w powersupply still sufficient
mxckzy#0744: maybe a stupid question but eh
Razorsz#5056: yes
Bae#4506: ah it was my stepdad then kekw i used to have a gtx 690 that one need new heat pads and crashes for no reason tho
Razorsz#5056: oofs
Bae#4506: F
Bae#4506: and it gives thread stuck in device driver bluescreen in most games even
Razorsz#5056: oof |
Deleted User#0000: rgb is a meme
Deleted User#0000: imagine not having a pc loaded with blindingly bright leds in the same color
Muse#0557: It's only good for when the computer is off
"Cobs"#1150: Thats an airboost with a custom cooler.
Bae#4506: ah
Razorsz#5056: ya
read bio/description#8459: Hey what are the differences between the msi and evga haha 3,5 gb card? Fps is probs gonna be same but like thermals etc
MythologicalZ#3752: which models
jay1185#0112: ^
MythologicalZ#3752: gaming x and acx?
MythologicalZ#3752: cause both are fine if thats the case
read bio/description#8459: I believe yes
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah then you dont need to worry
MythologicalZ#3752: will perform the same
read bio/description#8459: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787660290593914891/Screenshot_20201213-134031.png |
BiIIу#2519: Poland?
read bio/description#8459: But what about thermals and like how loud fans are
read bio/description#8459: Yes
MythologicalZ#3752: thermals will be fine on both, check reviews for noise
read bio/description#8459: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787660562292801536/Screenshot_20201213-134142.png
read bio/description#8459: To be honest, I'll just pick the cheaper one cuz my cpu fan is loud so it's gonna make the cards silent
MythologicalZ#3752: gaming x is nice
BiIIу#2519: why does it look broken
MythologicalZ#3752: fan blade missing though
read bio/description#8459: It's also more expensive by like 10 usd
read bio/description#8459: OH
read bio/description#8459: I did not notice that I'm getting evga
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah may as well
read bio/description#8459: There's also a Gigabyte one but that's the ITX version
MythologicalZ#3752: fans break really easily |
MythologicalZ#3752: had 2 blades snap on my card
read bio/description#8459: Did gigabyte make any 2 fan 970s?
MythologicalZ#3752: I dont think so
MythologicalZ#3752: had xtreme, windforce and then itx iirc
MythologicalZ#3752: all either single or tri
MythologicalZ#3752: https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce%C2%AE-GTX-970
MythologicalZ#3752: apparently blowers too lol
MythologicalZ#3752: never seen one of those
read bio/description#8459: @MythologicalZ so one of the listing is a scam then lol someone posted a 960 dual fan as a 970
read bio/description#8459: this one in particular https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787686341843615774/gigabyte_gtx_oc_wf2_2.png
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah scam
OmegaChamp#6440: Which one should I get a ryzen 7 3700x that is $216 or a ryzen 5 5600x for $288 am just doing gaming mostly
mi3night#2562: @OmegaChamp is say 5600x
mi3night#2562: Although where the hell are u finding 3700 for $216
xmassguy#1303: Would it be worth it to put my ram psu and gpu along with the psu out of my gaming rin wich has a gtx 1060 6gb 24gb of ram and an fx 8350 and put it into a prebuilt I have with an i5 3450 |
D.D.M#8226: What
D.D.M#8226: Bruh
D.D.M#8226: Fx has 8 cores
D.D.M#8226: Why would you
xmassguy#1303: I know but every one is saying how crappy fx is
D.D.M#8226: Welp those are nearly the last ones
xmassguy#1303: and it has 4ghz clock speed
Deleted User#0000: ivy bridge i5 to fx is at best a sidegrade
Deleted User#0000: wait nvm i got that backwards
D.D.M#8226: And i think ram will be 1033mhz instead of 1600 mhz
mi3night#2562: You better off selling both and get a ryzen pc lol
D.D.M#8226: ^^^
D.D.M#8226: That beats everything
D.D.M#8226: But he would lose the ram
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787727586443919370/image0.png |
D.D.M#8226: Nvm
D.D.M#8226: Get ryzen
xmassguy#1303: my plan for i5 pc was tp make it into a farm sim server and upgrade mine to ryzen eventually along with upgrading the i5
mi3night#2562: What ram do u have
xmassguy#1303: I also have my old fx 6300 and my old gtx 760
mi3night#2562: Some ddr3 ram are worth more than ddr4 lol
mi3night#2562: Especially the B die dom plats
xmassguy#1303: i dont have any name brand ram
D.D.M#8226: Well like you said
D.D.M#8226: Keep i5 pc for a server or smth
D.D.M#8226: And upgrade main pc to a ryzen
D.D.M#8226: You can sell the fx
xmassguy#1303: ok now would it be chaper to upgrade the i5 to a better lga 1155 cpu as a mid ground between fx and ryzen if i dont have or cant get all of the money for ryzen and use the upgraded i5 pc as a main
xmassguy#1303: for a temperairy pc
mi3night#2562: i mean it sounds good tbh |
xmassguy#1303: aslong as i could find a decent budget i7
D.D.M#8226: Well i think that fx still performs outstandingly so you wouldn't need to perform alot more upgrades
xmassguy#1303: yea i just want to get better performance out of my other parts
D.D.M#8226: Oh
D.D.M#8226: Well
D.D.M#8226: i7 for 1155 board
D.D.M#8226: In the longrun
xmassguy#1303: yea my plan would be to sell the fx 6300 i have and my current 8350 along with the i5 to upgrade to i7 and use that until i mcan get ryzen
D.D.M#8226: Yeah sounds good
xmassguy#1303: one last thing what do you recomend for an i7 to upgrade the 1155 i5 to
D.D.M#8226: Well best all round is the 3770 k
D.D.M#8226: You can pick em up for reasonable prices
xmassguy#1303: and that should perform better than i5 obviously and comperble to an fx 6300?
D.D.M#8226: Yes
xmassguy#1303: ok |
D.D.M#8226: And maybe better than the fx 6300
D.D.M#8226: Since its newer
xmassguy#1303: alright so that should be a good server pc for farm sim or mincraft and would you recomend i buy that i7 and sell all my fx stuff and use that until i can afford ryzen>
D.D.M#8226: :thonkpad:
D.D.M#8226: Well look i dont know much about the fx line, so maybe someone else will tell you something so i dont give bad advice
xmassguy#1303: ok
xmassguy#1303: thank you for the help
xmassguy#1303: would it be better to use my old gtx 760 for the 1155 server pc or my xfx rx 560 both are 2gb varients
read bio/description#8459: theres no rx 650
xmassguy#1303: my bad 560
Alcyone#2233: @mi3night W8 a minute here, 8350s sell for more than a 2700K does. What has this world came to.
Alcyone#2233: You know what. I think Phenom II x6 might also sell for more than an 1155 i7
JustinXenyx#8854: He is using eBay to judge prices, which is obviously a horribly inflated metric for anything
The United States Air Force#7904: by the time you make enough from mining am5 will be out and am4 mobos and cpus will be dirt cheap
Alcyone#2233: ebay sold listings is what I base all my values on |
Alcyone#2233: you can knock off 13% if you want to get actual money recieved
The United States Air Force#7904: hmm
The United States Air Force#7904: wait so ur saying my 1.06 dolla gpu bundle only gave the seller like 87 cents cuz taxes and shit
JustinXenyx#8854: Not because of taxes
The United States Air Force#7904: makes sense
JustinXenyx#8854: the 13% are purely eBay and PayPal fee
The United States Air Force#7904: I included tax
The United States Air Force#7904: thats what I paid overall
The United States Air Force#7904: 1 dollar plus 6 cents tax
The United States Air Force#7904: damn
Alcyone#2233: paypal takes 3% off the top just to tranfer funds
then you get billed for 10% of the sales price later, seller fee.
Alcyone#2233: ebay says its just 10% fee, but who owns paypal? its kinda scammy
JustinXenyx#8854: eBay hasn't for 5 years @Alcyone
JustinXenyx#8854: Which is why they dropped PayPal as a payment processor some time ago |
mi3night#2562: idk man @Alcyone i sold a phenom 1100t for $150
mi3night#2562: thats like haswell territory
mi3night#2562: and i sold 1090t for $120
read bio/description#8459: asus strix 970 or evga ftw 970
read bio/description#8459: which one do i choose price's the same
The United States Air Force#7904: Smh
The United States Air Force#7904: Scammer
mi3night#2562: sad
mi3night#2562: but yeah
mi3night#2562: ebay prices are inflated
mi3night#2562: but like
mi3night#2562: theyre pretty much there if u want to sell stuff
mi3night#2562: like if u have a 2015 macbook pro 15inch someone will buy it for $900
Alcyone#2233: @read bio/description strix unless the evga is a ftw
read bio/description#8459: i said its ftw |
read bio/description#8459: i believe it is
Alcyone#2233: oh ftw then
read bio/description#8459: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787775309389758494/images1000x700.png
read bio/description#8459: is it
read bio/description#8459: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787775410045321226/images1000x700.png
read bio/description#8459: lemme rotate that and then google
Alcyone#2233: it sys on the front
Alcyone#2233: oh no that is not
Alcyone#2233: all ftw have a backplate
read bio/description#8459: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787775520179617812/unknown.png
read bio/description#8459: superclocked
Alcyone#2233: thats a SC at best
read bio/description#8459: is that bad
JustinXenyx#8854: they'll perform identical either way
Alcyone#2233: ref design with a minor overclock, strix is better |
JustinXenyx#8854: like i said, get the one you like more
read bio/description#8459: fps difference?
JustinXenyx#8854: they won't OC any hugely different etc etc
Alcyone#2233: minimal
read bio/description#8459: well ill see what i'll be able to do
JustinXenyx#8854: so small it's almost down to measuring inaccuracies
read bio/description#8459: its like margin of error level
read bio/description#8459: right
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah
Alcyone#2233: depends, if silicon is the same quality the better board with a higher power limit might make a diffence
The United States Air Force#7904: Damn ppl robbin scalpers now
The United States Air Force#7904: 🤔
read bio/description#8459: well there is a bit of a price difference but its unsure etc
Alcyone#2233: but silicon lottery applies so either could be better
The United States Air Force#7904: Can I rob u @mi3night |
read bio/description#8459: i say ill try getting the asus one first if theres one thing there that makes it impossible then i go for evga
read bio/description#8459: just noticed
read bio/description#8459: @Alcyone not only is that the strix but its the oc strix
read bio/description#8459: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787776236234997830/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: the factory overclocks dont matter much
Alcyone#2233: its more about which card has the higher power limit
read bio/description#8459: i thought asus does it like gigabyte
The United States Air Force#7904: Yo we should rob midnight
read bio/description#8459: makes 2 version of the same card with one having the OC title
Alcyone#2233: there is no binning
read bio/description#8459: and i am not really into overclocking
read bio/description#8459: so that would be nice to have
Alcyone#2233: one is just overclocked a little more so they can sell it for an extra $20 to gamers that think 35mhz makes a difference
read bio/description#8459: aight
The United States Air Force#7904: https://tenor.com/view/steal-stole-burglary-thief-monkeys-gif-4885190 |
read bio/description#8459: @The United States Air Force this is #❓tech-help-and-talk❓
Alcyone#2233: gpu overclocking is stupid easy, push slider, see if its stable, push more
The United States Air Force#7904: Oof
The United States Air Force#7904: Shucks
read bio/description#8459: i cant bother tho unless its really needed
The United States Air Force#7904: I wanna oc gt 210
The United States Air Force#7904: And game on it
Alcyone#2233: oc is never needed if you can just buy the next tier up of hardware
read bio/description#8459: theres no gt 210 reeeee
read bio/description#8459: im legit going from 960 to 970
Alcyone#2233: I could buy a 3200g for a budget banger, or I could have a faster pc with a 8 year old ivy and some overclocking for cheaper
The United States Air Force#7904: Geforce 210*
read bio/description#8459: there ya go fella
The United States Air Force#7904: I also want to oc my fx 5200 and play minecraft at 144p 60fps
read bio/description#8459: my overclocking experience on the 210 was pushing the slider all the way to the right |
read bio/description#8459: 620 memory and 520 core i believe or the other way around
Alcyone#2233: a lot of the low end cards will run out of bios limit before they run out of oc
Alcyone#2233: have to mod bios and flash to extend them
read bio/description#8459: i believe nvidia flashing is much harder than amd flashing tho
Alcyone#2233: no
read bio/description#8459: oh rly
Alcyone#2233: you just run nvflash
read bio/description#8459: how does it compare to atiflash
Alcyone#2233: its about the same with no gui
Alcyone#2233: if youve ever used an old mobo bios flash utlity its similar
Alcyone#2233: here I extended clock limits and pushed shader above 2:1 on 8400gs, still sucked but it was fun https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787778441176416336/8400_gta_oc.png
Alcyone#2233: All old gpus up to NV 500, you rip bios file with gpu-z. mod in nibitor, save a new copy retaining your og bios. then flash the new modbios to the card with nvflash
Alcyone#2233: you can make custom boot messages too, my voltage unlocked 560 says
!!DANGER TO MANIFOLD!!! when it posts
D.D.M#8226: Lol |
Bae#4506: hm
read bio/description#8459: guys whats the performance difference between the gtx 970 and rx 480 4gb? is amd vce as shit as some people say?
read bio/description#8459: I stream from time to time and rn i use nvenc
read bio/description#8459: idk what to choose gtx 970 (asus strix oc) or rx 480 4gb (sapphire nitro+, 30 pln more, so 450pln vs 480pln)
read bio/description#8459: actually the rx 480 would be 498 cuz shipping
read bio/description#8459: 450.0 PLN = USD 122.85
read bio/description#8459: 498.0 PLN = USD 135.95
read bio/description#8459: oh nvm its 489
read bio/description#8459: so plus shipping that will be
read bio/description#8459: 507
read bio/description#8459: 507.0 PLN = USD 138.41
read bio/description#8459: thats kinda high
Racey#8574: Plus shitting oh god
read bio/description#8459: yeah i gotta shit on it real hard otherwise it wont post
read bio/description#8459: gamers are stinky after all |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: RX 480 wipes the floor with the 970
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: About streaming tho, I am not sure
Deleted User#0000: has anyone else had lga 775 systems be finicky with ram
Dogecode#7321: its a known problem
though I havent had many issues myself
Abdou#2064: guys the i7 5775c it is best than i7 4770
or no diffrent
Muse#0557: It's better
Muse#0557: By a decent chunk
Muse#0557: I saw something recently about how it's actually outperforming kaby in a look of things now
mi3night#2562: @Abdou i7 5775c is a good cpu but i dont recommend investing more money into 1150 socket rn.
Abdou#2064: k
mi3night#2562: sure if u can get one for under $100
mi3night#2562: heres the chart from AnandTech's broadwell review. and overclocking this cpu is kinda painful imo https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787926908498214912/proxy.png
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787927081911713792/unknown.png |
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/787927273684205608/gevog1l7m3a21.png
mi3night#2562: this is 4.3ghz OC
mi3night#2562: 925CB all core
mi3night#2562: so it's about 30-40CB higher than the 4790k same clock
mi3night#2562: 4.3ghz OC is about the same as a r3 3100 at least in CBR15
mi3night#2562: @Muse idk if im correct or not but yeah
mi3night#2562: i dont think it's worth it unless it's really cheap
Muse#0557: It's not worth it
Muse#0557: But that wasn't the question
Muse#0557: In many applications Broadwells use of Level 4 Cache
Muse#0557: Really really benefits it
mi3night#2562: yeah idky level4 cache wasnt brought on in newer cpus
Muse#0557: Cost
Muse#0557: Complacency
Muse#0557: New node |
Razorsz#5056: ryzen 6xxx l4 cache when
Un karr#9168: guys I have a serious issue
Un karr#9168: i have this system that has a mobo with built in graphics. when i try to use its hdmi the computer blue screens on me after 30 minutes or more
Un karr#9168: https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/P5EVM_HDMI/
Un karr#9168: this is the mobo
D.D.M#8226: probs a driver issue
D.D.M#8226: is it just the hdmi or does it happen on vga or dvi if it has it
D.D.M#8226: ?
Un karr#9168: just the hdmi
D.D.M#8226: hmm
Un karr#9168: i have noticed that the chipset gets very hot
D.D.M#8226: very hot?
D.D.M#8226: huh
D.D.M#8226: that doesnt sound good
Un karr#9168: yea like 80 degrees |
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