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FuckinReece#0021: if it wants to work using all the vram
Dogecode#7321: it works fine actually
Dogecode#7321: just glitches out periodically
Dogecode#7321: usually when its loading things in
FuckinReece#0021: try flashing the bios
FuckinReece#0021: its worth a shot
FuckinReece#0021: could be corrupted
Dogecode#7321: shouldve gotten a recording of it
FuckinReece#0021: at the same rate im happy the 5770 i found in the trash was just clogged and not artifacting
Dogecode#7321: once I got into games and such the problem went away
Dogecode#7321: it just happens on the loading screen and every now and again on the desktop
FuckinReece#0021: flash the bios
FuckinReece#0021: try it
Dogecode#7321: ye
FuckinReece#0021: or try doing that amd driver debugger thing |
FuckinReece#0021: i recall a similar situation
Dogecode#7321: im hoping its salvageable
FuckinReece#0021: probably is
Dogecode#7321: ye
FuckinReece#0021: seems very fixable
FuckinReece#0021: i mean thats the same way i felt about the 7870
Dogecode#7321: oddly it didnt even want to turn on in the first system I tried it in
Dogecode#7321: that system had a 450w psu though so maybe it wasnt getting enough juice
FuckinReece#0021: literally the exact same thing with the 7870
FuckinReece#0021: and now it works amazingly
Dogecode#7321: when I stuck it in my main rig with a 750w it powered right up
Dogecode#7321: makes sense as its a higher end card that it probably likes more watts than that
FuckinReece#0021: yeah i think you should blow dryer your card
FuckinReece#0021: it could just need a little reflow
Dogecode#7321: ye thats what Im thinking |
FuckinReece#0021: if it helps i did a little over 15 minutes on my card
FuckinReece#0021: and it worked
Dogecode#7321: it isnt permanent though right
Dogecode#7321: it just kicks the can
FuckinReece#0021: its better than living with the artifacting
Dogecode#7321: but the problem will come back
FuckinReece#0021: its up to you
Dogecode#7321: was planning on trying it yeah
FuckinReece#0021: if you need help on getting it setup you can ask me
Dogecode#7321: ye
FuckinReece#0021: i didnt cover any part of the card in tin foil
Dogecode#7321: did you use an actual heat gun
Dogecode#7321: or just a hair dryer
FuckinReece#0021: hair dryer
Dogecode#7321: seems like that wouldnt be hot enough |
FuckinReece#0021: i thought it would be more forgiving
FuckinReece#0021: it is
FuckinReece#0021: it will get hot
FuckinReece#0021: its just the time
Dogecode#7321: lmao
Dogecode#7321: i remember once I tried to use a hair dryer to dry out the inside of a bottle
Dogecode#7321: and the hair dryer broke
Dogecode#7321: just wouldnt turn on anymore after that
Dogecode#7321: not sure what happened
FuckinReece#0021: it probably got to hot and burned out
FuckinReece#0021: the reason i say use a hair dryer is because a heat gun gets really hot
FuckinReece#0021: and you can actually if you heat it up too much move stuff around
FuckinReece#0021: or burn the board
Dogecode#7321: ye
Deleted User#0000: I don't got any warranty, I bought it for 10 euros |
NecroFlex#9105: so you bought it used?
Sydew#4661: My motherboard only supports i7, i5, pentium, 6th and 7th gen
The United States Air Force#7904: Hmm
Sydew#4661: I got an Msi B205M Mortar
The United States Air Force#7904: Makes sense
The United States Air Force#7904: Oof
Sydew#4661: And rn i got a pentium g4400
Sydew#4661: Which only has 2 cores
NecroFlex#9105: if you want to risk it, you can mod the mobo to support 8th and 9th gen aswell, tho you'd also need to mod the CPU itself
dexsters56#4904: Hello everyone i have a pretty bad issue right now with my gpu pls help.
i have a R9 270X from MSI and it works when the driver is not installed, but the display crashes once drivers apply, i did a bios update from the techpowerup website and still no difference. Any suggestions?
My rig
E5-2620v1
HyperX 8gb 1866mhz x1 |
X79G v2.0
Corsair CX850M
120gb ssd (Patriot)
NecroFlex#9105: Dead gpu
NecroFlex#9105: Sadly
dexsters56#4904: oh dang it ok, thanks for the help, spent 35 euro on it and i bet i could maybe sell it for parts for 20
DarknessFalls229#2286: Damn, 35 euro on a dead r9 270x, thats a scam
dexsters56#4904: a GT 1030 would have been a better buy for 40 euro
DarknessFalls229#2286: way better, considering its low power requirement
dexsters56#4904: I have a 300w Flex powerman powersupply im working with and the cpu under full load draws 55w
dexsters56#4904: My friend asked if there is a AMD bios editor for gpus? , he has a R9 280X which at stock memory clocks keeps crashing, is there a bios editor out there that could allow him to change the base clocks of the core and memory?
Alcyone#2233: VBE7 should work on 280x since it is a hd7000 rebrand
DarknessFalls229#2286: wouldnt it be smarter to see if it stays stable with an MSI afterburner underclock?
DarknessFalls229#2286: before committing a bios flash
dexsters56#4904: @DarknessFalls229 he already did, he downclocked it alot and it works fine, but the settings fail to apply after a reboot |
DarknessFalls229#2286: ah
Alcyone#2233: you have to set ab to start with windows.
dexsters56#4904: @Alcyone im not sure i was watching him do it through screenshare and now he afk
dexsters56#4904: but he wants me to mod the bios and flash it
Alcyone#2233: if he has a dual bios gpu, an igpu or a second card he can put in if the flash goes bad its pretty foolproof
The United States Air Force#7904: https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali507/p/N82E16883360107?Item=N82E16883360107 lol
The United States Air Force#7904: mmmmm yes https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/829814082479063080/unknown.png
NecroFlex#9105: nice
D.D.M#8226: Mmmmmmmmm
Lady Mipha#0611: hmm yes 4TB SAS drive
Sydew#4661: does someone know why would my case fans go 100% after a few seconds every time i shut down my pc?
i changed my motherboard recently
and now every time i shut my pc down, everything shuts down, and after 1 or 2 seconds my case fans suddently just go to 100% for less than a seconds and then the pc fully shuts down
it never happened to me, i'm just wondering if it's normal
mi3night#2562: sus |
The United States Air Force#7904: The price
The United States Air Force#7904: Look at the price
The United States Air Force#7904: Cexy
The United States Air Force#7904: 69.99
Grockle#7163: shame it's 3.5"
The United Earth citizen#0382: Normal people: buying gpus, keyboards and other stuff
Meanwhile me: ***P H O N E*** https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/830050222171488276/IMG_20210409_115614_575.png
D.D.M#8226: phone
The United States Air Force#7904: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-P8Z77-V-DELUXE-LGA-1155-Intel-Z77-HDMI-USB-3-0-ATX-Motherboard-AS-IS/294033272500? pain
NecroFlex#9105: I had a B75 mobo that was damaged in the ssame area, tho not broken off but split, nothing seemed affected, but it wouldn't turn on at all, if i forced it to turn on (jumping the green and black wire on the 24-pin) it smoked a bit, so Asus does put traces around there it seems, but for god knows what
DarknessFalls229#2286: OOF https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/830123508163149904/unknown.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: literally chipped off a corner on that one
Alcyone#2233: yeah could have traces for dram power in that corner
sandrosandro482#8710: guys my gpu runs weird voltages. i tell it to run at 1.112v but when its not under load it'll run at 1.125 but when its REALLY on load it'll do 1.106? also when streaming on discord it'll go back to normal which is like 1.25v which i obviously dont want. when it has very little load but is still at the full 1050mhz itll go upto like 1.2v again. this happens on every driver i've tried and its quite annoying to the point where i can tell what type of load the game puts on my system with the voltage on the gpu. at least theres something useful from it lol. please help if you know what could be the issue. The gpu has beefy vrm's for what its made btw so that probably isnt the issue
GPU: R9 FURY sapphire nitro |
DarknessFalls229#2286: i feel like thats pretty normal behaviour
DarknessFalls229#2286: when its not under load it can push higher voltages as its not consuming much amps, but under load it has to drop voltage to remain under powerlimit
The United Earth citizen#0382: welp
The United Earth citizen#0382: my Lumia 1020 just died
The United Earth citizen#0382: i just started actually enjoying using it
Alcyone#2233: @sandrosandro482 its vdroop, what you set isnt always what you get.
sandrosandro482#8710: can i do anything about it
Alcyone#2233: there might be bios mods to change LLC on fury I dunno. it will run hotter if you increase load line calibration though
Alcyone#2233: I wouldnt worry about it at all, with no load you are pulling no amps, with no amperage you arent making much heat or using much power at any voltage
FuckinReece#0021: I’m willing to take that risk
The United States Air Force#7904: lol
FuckinReece#0021: currently using the 7870 i fixed but its getting weird frame time pacing issues
FuckinReece#0021: Got a real problem friends pc is turning on but not displaying a signal
FuckinReece#0021: Not the gpu or ram
FuckinReece#0021: Or psu |
FuckinReece#0021: We are looking at motherboard and cpu
FuckinReece#0021: Motherboard was damaged but worked but the cpu idk either any opinions
FuckinReece#0021: Also it is good to note the motherboard does like how a ram freeze would go
FuckinReece#0021: Like the picture froze
The United States Air Force#7904: So my laptop crashed and I found out it was a hardware error
The United States Air Force#7904: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/830290185756606494/20210409_225628.jpg
The United States Air Force#7904: Is this a driver problem
The United States Air Force#7904: Or an actual hardware problem
The United States Air Force#7904: Like a dying gpu
The United States Air Force#7904: Because when the laptop totally crashed
The United States Air Force#7904: It was just the display
FuckinReece#0021: DDU your drivers
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Just be on the lookout and reinstall your GPU driver
FuckinReece#0021: going to ask this again
FuckinReece#0021: but my friends pc just randomly stopped working |
FuckinReece#0021: ram is fine
FuckinReece#0021: gpu is fine
FuckinReece#0021: psu is fine
FuckinReece#0021: it turns on just fine
FuckinReece#0021: but it doesnt want to boot
FuckinReece#0021: no signs of life at all
FuckinReece#0021: what could be the problem here
D.D.M#8226: Test the ram on another system
D.D.M#8226: Same with gpu and psu
D.D.M#8226: Check if the cpu is fine
D.D.M#8226: Maybe dust your mobo, i had a system that was particularly dirty and it had problems and sometimes it wouldn't boot
The United States Air Force#7904: Prolly imma do that
FuckinReece#0021: Motherboard is super clean and the ram and cpu worked
FuckinReece#0021: It locked up the whole pc and now will power on without booting
FuckinReece#0021: Also the psu is fine |
D.D.M#8226: Then probs smth is wrong with the mobo
Sony PS-FL77#3627: most likely the mobo, sorry chief, though mobo is cheaper than a GPU so I guess that's lucky?
klondike#0580: Hello my install of Debian could completed, but completely dissappears in select boot device menu on my laptop, but is detected in a Linux live boot, any idea whats up? It DID work before but then I removed the cmos and put it back in and work work :/
FuckinReece#0021: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji974w99csg
Bae#4506: hyperx cloud 2 mic
Bae#4506: it stuck at 0 volume
Bae#4506: sadge
UKVamp#9361: @ellie ❥ie 8179 on a Ryzen r5 4600H 6C/12T laptop
DarknessFalls229#2286: You mean @Sony PS-FL77
Sony PS-FL77#3627: fuckin cool
klondike#0580: anyone know why my Dell laptop refusing to acknowledge my debian install??
klondike#0580: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/830866574717616148/20210411_140706.jpg
klondike#0580: Shows up on my desktop
UKVamp#9361: those ryzen laptop chips are pretty good
D.D.M#8226: Go in the bios and try set a boot priority |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @klondike You have UEFI enabled
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Linux will not work when UEFI is enabled
JustinXenyx#8854: I feel like you might have accidentally installed debian with a legacy boot installer
JustinXenyx#8854: because something fells me that if you hit "internal hdd" from the legacy boot menu that it'll jump to your debian install
D.D.M#8226: I writen debian in uefi mode and it worked just fine on a uefi pc
D.D.M#8226: No reason it shouldn't work
D.D.M#8226: If you did write it in uefi, switch to bios
FuckinReece#0021: anybody want to do a sub 100 dollar gaming build in the current times
FuckinReece#0021: im willing to try
rriot#6100: Highkey thinking about doing something like that, maybe when i got more free time
D.D.M#8226: Hey guys so i have a friend that wants to upgrade his gpu, but he only wants smth new not second hand, and at a tech store where he lives there are only the gt series cards and a rx 550 and 1050 ti
D.D.M#8226: rx 550 4gb and 1050 ti 2gb
D.D.M#8226: Which one would be better?
DarknessFalls229#2286: wait
DarknessFalls229#2286: hes gonna buy a NEW GPU in THIS market? |
D.D.M#8226: new
D.D.M#8226: in a retail store
DarknessFalls229#2286: horrible time to do so
DarknessFalls229#2286: but id pick the 1050ti i think
D.D.M#8226: its not listed in the site
D.D.M#8226: only the gt series cards and those two
D.D.M#8226: actually wait
D.D.M#8226: they do have a 1050 ti
D.D.M#8226: oc
D.D.M#8226: for 170 euro
D.D.M#8226: on sale
DarknessFalls229#2286: jesus fuck thats expensive
DarknessFalls229#2286: but if its the best card they have...
D.D.M#8226: well for him max is 200 euro
D.D.M#8226: and his countrys economy is eh |
D.D.M#8226: the best one for price
rriot#6100: Just wait lol
dexsters56#4904: I have a strange issue with my GTX 780 FE
I personally run a X79G motherboard with E5-2620v1 and the cards outputs dont work but if i use a motherboard with onboard the gpu works fine like this ga-78lmt-s2 with phenom x6 1090T and pass the video signal through the onboard gpu. The GTX 780 works fine and runs games. But my friend owns a X58M-pro the GTX 780 works and its outputs also work but once the gpu is under load it works for 60 - 180 seconds and then it crashes turns fans up to 100% for 1min and then later the fans go back to normal but the screen blackscreened
D.D.M#8226: Well my friend cant
D.D.M#8226: His other gpu died and he needs a display output
D.D.M#8226: And he plans to game
rriot#6100: That’s rough ye can’t you borrow him some temporary gpu?
rriot#6100: Bit of a waste buying a new gpu now
D.D.M#8226: he lives in another country
D.D.M#8226: idk if you noticed from the conversation
D.D.M#8226: but still he is upgrading from a hd 8000 oem gpu
D.D.M#8226: which was eh
DarknessFalls229#2286: would he mind sidegrading until prices become a bit more normal?
DarknessFalls229#2286: if that ever happens anyway |
DarknessFalls229#2286: its been so long already
D.D.M#8226: idk but he isnt that experienced in tech
D.D.M#8226: but good enough to know the cards
D.D.M#8226: after his gpu died he was showing me the rx 550
D.D.M#8226: 4gb
NecroFlex#9105: Not really, for it being an older one sure, but used ones go for more than that on ebay
D.D.M#8226: According to him the whole economy in his country is bs
D.D.M#8226: So thats partly the problem
NecroFlex#9105: i mean it sold around that price when it originally came out
D.D.M#8226: So its the 1050 ti then?
NecroFlex#9105: best of those available
Dogecode#7321: while it’s still underpowered the r5 240 would still likely be an upgrade over a low end hd 8000 card
Dogecode#7321: it’s cheap too
Dogecode#7321: still baffles me why people pay so much for the gt 710 when this card is basically half the price and is in fact a better performer
AnUrbanPenguin#1967: Any power supply experts lurking around this evening? |
NecroFlex#9105: depends
NecroFlex#9105: @AnUrbanPenguin
AnUrbanPenguin#1967: I think ive diagnosed it correctly. My friend gave me his old GPU, a Gigabyte Windforce 980ti G1. Quite a nice card, although a hot and power hungry one. I thought id be fine running it. My PSU is 750w, single rail, 62A on the 12v. CPU is a Ryzen 5 3600 @ 4.2Ghz. Running PSU calculations with an overclock etc it spat out a load of around 575w and recommended a 650w PSU on the online calculators. When the card is installed in my PC when any load is put on it there is the loudest coil whine I have ever heard. My partner could hear it from 2 rooms away! When trialed on my friends PSU (an RM850) its totally silent. My PSU is a pretty old CoolerMaster GX750 (8-9 years old), but its never had a hard life. Sound like a dying PSU possibly flucations on the rail or something?
Bae#4506: hm
NecroFlex#9105: No
NecroFlex#9105: That's normal sadly
Bae#4506: what is making the sound
NecroFlex#9105: Well
NecroFlex#9105: Coils
NecroFlex#9105: Vibrating at a frequency we can hewr
NecroFlex#9105: Hear
NecroFlex#9105: Chokes make those sounds
Bae#4506: this reminds me of my gtx 690 i could hear it from downstairs kekw
NecroFlex#9105: Usually it's not present or faint, but in some cases can be quite loud
NecroFlex#9105: It's not bad or dangerous |
Bae#4506: nope
NecroFlex#9105: It's just that the gpu doesn't like the power it gets, it's too...noisy so to say
NecroFlex#9105: Sadly the only way to fix that is with a new PSU
NecroFlex#9105: Or if you want to remake the whole power delivery system on the GPU :P
AnUrbanPenguin#1967: Its 100% the GPU making the sound. Guess a new PSU is on the cards.
AnUrbanPenguin#1967: PC World / Currys has the TX750M for £75 right now
Dogecode#7321: what might cause a laptop to boot up into windows and then immediately shut off
AnUrbanPenguin#1967: Rapidly overheating springs to mind?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Not quite
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: If it was overheating then it shouldn't shut off right away
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Sounds like a hardware issue
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @Dogecode
Dogecode#7321: like what sort of hardware issue
or could it be anything
Dogecode#7321: its my friend's laptop, he started having problems with it |
klondike#0580: I need help forcibly downgrading my laptops bios. Its an older laptop and hasn't gotten a new bios in 3 years its a ln inspiron 15 5559. Running the newest bios my cpu is running at 400mhz. Until I disable BD_PROCHOT with a MSR mod. But that's only a temporary fix
TheFifthAce#4128: disable speedstep
TheFifthAce#4128: :woag:
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @Dogecode Maybe RAM?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Pull out the sticks and clean them
Dogecode#7321: ye
hopefully its just ram as Ive got a billion ddr3l sticks to swap
NecroFlex#9105: I've seen the issue before, it's not shutting down
NecroFlex#9105: Rip this secret that has gotten me so many free laptops
NecroFlex#9105: The battery is fucked/shortrd, when you get into windows it sees it as empty and goes to sleep/hibernation
NecroFlex#9105: Remove the battery and try again
AnUrbanPenguin#1967: Ordered a Corsair TX750M to replace my old CoolerMaster GX750. Lets hope itll solve my 980Ti coil whine woes.
AnUrbanPenguin#1967: GX750 was going for nearly 10 years. Still is going, just obviously not in ideal condition it seems. Modular one will certainly make cable management easier. That GX750 has a crazy number of cables. My PSU basement is near to exploding. No idea how I got them all in there!
read bio/description#8459: pretty sure that would be an issue with the gpu, not the psu issue but sure maybe that will help
D.D.M#8226: @read bio/description he said it worked fine on a rm850 |
read bio/description#8459: ooh
KeZz#4943: Anyone know about switches for keyboards. Looking for a quite mechanical keyboard, or at the very least on the quite end of it. But the amount of switch colours and brands, im kinda stuck on what i should be looking for?
KeZz#4943: Just need a keyboard that doesnt sound like the clicker from the last of us when im playing later in the evenings and the gf is asleep
read bio/description#8459: u mean quiet? get reds
read bio/description#8459: usually u get three choices - blue, brown and reds
read bio/description#8459: reds are the most silent ones
KeZz#4943: Any red switch keyboards for 50-80 pounds that you would recommend or heard good things about?
read bio/description#8459: I dont really know that many keyboards besides what I can get in Poland, but those are polish brands
KeZz#4943: Ill keep looking. Need one with Fn keys but no num pad. At least im narrowing it down
read bio/description#8459: so a 60% @KeZz
read bio/description#8459: i heard good stuff about anne pro 2 and rk61 iirc
read bio/description#8459: these are often found on aliexpress
KeZz#4943: Whats 60%?
KeZz#4943: Just checked, I need the FN keys to be seperate keys. Mostly as extra since once in a while i may play an MMO RPG and those games need all the keys you can get. Aside from num pad, its too far and usually just gathers dust
Nasko#4961: I think i know a great option hyperx alloy fps pro |
Nasko#4961: 88.86 usd in my country
read bio/description#8459: so tkl then
AnUrbanPenguin#1967: Yea the GPU worked perfect on an RM850. So im guessing as the PSU is like 9 years old its probably on its way out.
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Right so I've got a Peppermint OS (mint based) distro running on an AM3 PC powered by an Athlon II x3 and the motherboard chipset/graphics is Nvidia
Sony PS-FL77#3627: And uh, every single web page I try to navigate is a giant flickering mess
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Now I know Nvidia and Linux don't play nice in certain cases, but does anyone know what this problem could be?
D.D.M#8226: Have you tried windows or maybe another linux distro?
Lady Mipha#0611: is it a nforce board
Dogecode#7321: it was
read bio/description#8459: thats most likely exactly the problem, check if windows work fine, if yes then theres your answer
FuckinReece#0021: What would happen if you forget to plug in a cpu power
FuckinReece#0021: Is it different for every board
D.D.M#8226: in my case with a 1155 z77 gigabyte board fans spin up for a second and back down
D.D.M#8226: but not much else
KeZz#4943: downside is that all the decent price ones are US layout, which aint too different but id still prefer UK over it. But ill keep the suggestion noted down. |
dwtietz#0421: Hi @Budget,
I apologize for pinging you here, but I'm not sure of any other way to try to contact you directly.
I'm curious to ask you about a disc that you had reviewed on your channel about 2 years ago, and to ask you if you might consider selling it if you still have it and you're not personally attached to it? It is, without a doubt, one of the worst video games ever made, but I'm a fairly serious collector and would love to have a copy of that disc in my collection.
exquisitedark#1117: i dropped a bottle cap in my pc
exquisitedark#1117: do i have to take it out
exquisitedark#1117: or it wont cause problems
D.D.M#8226: as long as it isnt wet
Foxious#1859: not long as its not metal or wont fall into some fans
D.D.M#8226: ^^
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I would defo still take it out lmao
Sony PS-FL77#3627: and that's coming from the person who duct tapes HDDs
Budget#8265: @dwtietz Is that the Paintbrawl Bigbox that I somehow ended up with?
dwtietz#0421: That's the one! LOL |
dwtietz#0421: I'm a very avid collector of games discs for any game that uses the Build game engine from anywhere in the world. This isn't quite my entire collection here, but I'm always keen to acquire new items when something interesting shows up, and that PaintBrawl disc is pretty interesting and one that I'd never seen before until just recently. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/832366297823707176/Collage-Sorted-81.png
Budget#8265: @dwtietz I can see if i still have it tomorrow, i think its up on some shelving
Budget#8265: id never seen it before till I made the video, but i must have owned it about a decade
dwtietz#0421: I'll be excited to hear if it shows up. 🙂
The Tired Technician#8073: What in the hell is this. I've never seen anything like it before https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/832469632308740096/20210415_211645.jpg
The Tired Technician#8073: only real numbers I can pull off it are " pn sn 32p0023zj1nbg27260" and "EC H23176C"
The Tired Technician#8073: as well as "PN 32P0016 2002-07-31"
The Tired Technician#8073: google isnt bringing anything back
The Tired Technician#8073: Its an IBM card. but thats about all I know about it
Grockle#7163: looks like a PCI-X card maybe
The Tired Technician#8073: I suppose it could be
The Tired Technician#8073: but what does the card do is the question
primo007#7071: what kind of ports does it have? might be hi-speed networking
The Tired Technician#8073: no ports on the back bracket at all
The Tired Technician#8073: nothing |
The Tired Technician#8073: also I just picked up some kind of 6800 ultra card for free. Ebay is saying the model I have is worth a couple hundred bucks
The Tired Technician#8073: that cant be right
The Tired Technician#8073: can it?
The Tired Technician#8073: its a BFG Nvidia GeForce 6800 Ultra OC 256mb DDR3 AGP card
The Tired Technician#8073: im getting results that go from a few hundred bucks
The Tired Technician#8073: to like 20
Dogecode#7321: if it works
it's worth a good deal
Dogecode#7321: if not its a paperweight
The Tired Technician#8073: well seeing as it works fine in windows 7 on my test bench system
The Tired Technician#8073: im assuming it works
Dogecode#7321: thats a good score
Dogecode#7321: then
The Tired Technician#8073: and I just got it given to me for free
Dogecode#7321: ive been trying to get hold of one for a while, hard to find ones that actually work and arent doa |
The Tired Technician#8073: I mean I could sell you this one
The Tired Technician#8073: I dont have any use for it
Dogecode#7321: eh
ive got one already that I want to try to fix
Dogecode#7321: it had artifacts but someone said it might be the bios
The Tired Technician#8073: alrighty
Dogecode#7321: you should build up a retro system out of that
The Tired Technician#8073: already got a retro system
The Tired Technician#8073: runs windows XP
Dogecode#7321: does it have a 6800 ultra though
Dogecode#7321: is the question
The Tired Technician#8073: think its a GeForce 4 of some description and an Athlon 64 X2 4800+
The Tired Technician#8073: its been a long ass time since ive opened it up
Dogecode#7321: slap that 6800 in there and youll see way better performance
The Tired Technician#8073: I guess I could |
The Tired Technician#8073: dont have enough molex power for it though
The Tired Technician#8073: at least I assume
The Tired Technician#8073: only like a 200 something watt psu
Dogecode#7321: probably should upgrade that anyway
The Tired Technician#8073: yeah probably
The Tired Technician#8073: its like more than a decade old
The Tired Technician#8073: its a dell dimension something or other
The Tired Technician#8073: just swapped the board in it
Dogecode#7321: even though its just an old pc the psu could go at any moment and nuke the whole thing
The Tired Technician#8073: i guess
Dogecode#7321: is the psu proprietary
Dogecode#7321: since that will make it rough to swap
The Tired Technician#8073: as far as I know
The Tired Technician#8073: it is just standard parts
The Tired Technician#8073: i mean it had an mATX motherboard in there |
The Tired Technician#8073: with standard mounts
The Tired Technician#8073: I should probably use the full size socket 939 board I have laying around though
Dogecode#7321: ye its probably one of those
used to have one like that
should be standard
The Tired Technician#8073: maybe pick up a cheap rosewill case or something
Dogecode#7321: tbh i like the look of the old dell cases
Dogecode#7321: retro in a good way
The Tired Technician#8073: ah wait
The Tired Technician#8073: the full sized 939 board i have has pcie for the gpu slot
The Tired Technician#8073: not AGP
Dogecode#7321: reminds me of my first pc (was like a dimension 8200 or something)
The Tired Technician#8073: darn
The Tired Technician#8073: I need an AGP board thats full ATX
Dogecode#7321: i picked up one with a (doa) 6600gt once |
Dogecode#7321: for like $20
The Tired Technician#8073: actually if im going 6800 ultra... would that be a good match for earlier P4s?
The Tired Technician#8073: like northwood?
Dogecode#7321: you could nick a lga775 board with agp
they do exist
the one I have is that
then you can use a newer p4 or a pentium d
The Tired Technician#8073: i have a PD 925 laying around that might work
The Tired Technician#8073: or I could grab the (3.8?) ghz P4 and be a whale
The Tired Technician#8073: pretty sure the highest clocked P4 was 3.8
The Tired Technician#8073: well time to do something that is completely stupid and wont work any better than sticking copper and zinc into a potato
The Tired Technician#8073: time to run world of warships on maximum settings on this 6800
The Tired Technician#8073: I imagine its worse than my processors integrated graphics
The Tired Technician#8073: how im getting this to work is an extremely jank pcie to AGP adapter cable
The Tired Technician#8073: so yknow |
The Tired Technician#8073: totally safe
Dogecode#7321: seems legit
DarknessFalls229#2286: @The Tired Technician hey if youre willing to sell that AGP 6800 ultra i know someone would LOVE to have a _working_ one
The Tired Technician#8073: who would that be @DarknessFalls229
The Tired Technician#8073: actually, am I allowed to ping budget for something like that?
D.D.M#8226: For like sending him stuff idk
D.D.M#8226: Since he doesn't have a public po
Sony PS-FL77#3627: If it's something particularly rare or interesting then possibly but it would have to be really amazing
Beyond that he doesn't allow for donations due to the aforementioned lack of a PO
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I imagine It would have to be pretty incredible for him to risk it
D.D.M#8226: ^^
The Tired Technician#8073: Im guessing a working AGP 6800 Ultra does not fall under that category
The Tired Technician#8073: he is on dnd right now, so I wont risk it for the biscuit
The Tired Technician#8073: but hopefully he checks this chat
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Eh I'm the gambling sort |
@Budget doubt you're interested but I'd hate to leave @The Tired Technician hanging
The Tired Technician#8073: dont get beaned over it
The Tired Technician#8073: Well im gunna quickly shower, ping me and ill be back in time
FuckinReece#0021: Weird question to ask but is it possible for a system to turn on without booting when the cpu 4 pin is disconnected
Grockle#7163: I believe so yes, should stop with a CPU post error
FuckinReece#0021: What if I’m not getting any signal
Grockle#7163: Well you wouldn't
Grockle#7163: It'll start to post, then get stuck when it doesn't detect the CPU
Grockle#7163: And if your motherboard is equipped, it'll display a CPU post code error/ CPU debug LED / beep a code indicating a CPU error
DarknessFalls229#2286: @The Tired Technician A dude named Jam, hes a little known around here, but left this server due to personal reasons. He's a retro tech kinda guy and has been searching for a 6800u AGP for a while now since his card died without a reason
DarknessFalls229#2286: @jam#0384, dunno how mentioning people not in the server works
Muse#0557: Jam
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Oh shit you still in touch with Jam?
DarknessFalls229#2286: Yeah course
DarknessFalls229#2286: Did you know that ive sent him a package with like 5 retro GPUs? |
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Nope I didn't
DarknessFalls229#2286: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/833005158681935902/Screenshot_20210417-174458_Discord.jpg
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Fun convo
The United States Air Force#7904: @DarknessFalls229 what retro gpus do you have
DarknessFalls229#2286: Uhh, i got hd 3850 agp, hd 4650 1gb agp, hd 3450 agp, hd 4870, hd4870x2 triple fan. Not _that_ much of a collector @The United States Air Force
DarknessFalls229#2286: Also have 8800gt, 8800gtx twice, 9600gt sli'd with gt 230
The United States Air Force#7904: damn
The United States Air Force#7904: i need some good agp cards
The United States Air Force#7904: like my best is a fx 5200
Dogecode#7321: my best (working) is a radeon 9200se
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I think we have 2 AGP cards but one is dead
Sony PS-FL77#3627: @DarknessFalls229 want me to send you the dead AGP card next time? Never looked at it myself since it's my little brother's issue
Dogecode#7321: ive got quite a few agp cards but they are low end
Dogecode#7321: picked up a bulk lot of them for like $30
Dogecode#7321: ive got 5 working ones |
Dogecode#7321: and 2 nonworking
Dogecode#7321: the lot was a good deal esp since all the cards in it worked and were in good condition, but I’d still like something better
The United States Air Force#7904: I've got a voodoo 3 2000 an fx 5200 and an ati rage 128 I think
The United States Air Force#7904: Not many
The United States Air Force#7904: Also a dead 6800gt
The United States Air Force#7904: And dead 7800gt
The Tired Technician#8073: Hang on lemme spread em all out and take a picture
The Tired Technician#8073: Might be a minute. Its at the bottom of thar shelf https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/833106158084030484/20210417_152611.jpg
The Tired Technician#8073: There ya go. There's all my graphics cards https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/833107593324134420/20210417_153140.jpg
The Tired Technician#8073: All the not working ones are in a different bin
The Tired Technician#8073: Top row from left to right is
The Tired Technician#8073: Nvidia GeForce 2 MX 200 AGP
The Tired Technician#8073: MSI nvidia NX8500GT passive
The Tired Technician#8073: EVGA nvidia GTX 650
The Tired Technician#8073: 2 MSI nvidia N9500GT cards |
The Tired Technician#8073: HP OEM ATI Radeon HD 4550
The Tired Technician#8073: Next row down starting from the left again is
The Tired Technician#8073: Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti 200 64mb AGP
The Tired Technician#8073: ATI Radeon 9550XL 256mb
The Tired Technician#8073: Visiontek ATI Radeon 6350
The Tired Technician#8073: ATI Radeon X1300 128mb
The Tired Technician#8073: Diamond Monster 3D Voodoo 2 12mb
The Tired Technician#8073: Kay now third row down just like last time
The United States Air Force#7904: DAMNNNN
The United States Air Force#7904: alot of decent cards
The United States Air Force#7904: @The Tired Technician are those all your cards or do you have 20 more in diff systems
The Tired Technician#8073: ATI Radeon X1600 Pro 512mb
The Tired Technician#8073: This is just the spare cards I have laying around not in use
The Tired Technician#8073: MSI nvidia GT 710
The Tired Technician#8073: Asus ATI Radeon 3870 512mb CoH OF edition |
The Tired Technician#8073: ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb
The Tired Technician#8073: Hang on gotta look up the last one
The United States Air Force#7904: hmm here is my spare card list:
nvidia 9800gtx+ 512 or 768mb idk never used in box with all og stuff and drivers and game
nvidia 9800gt 512mb from evga
2 quadro fx 380s 256mb from pny
2 hd 6950 2gb from powercolor
an hd 6450 1gb dell
hd 4650 sapphire 1gb
The United States Air Force#7904: gt 210 512mb
The United States Air Force#7904: radeon r7000 64mb pci
The United States Air Force#7904: fx 5200 pny 128mb
The Tired Technician#8073: HP OEM ATI Radeon HD 4650 1gb
The United States Air Force#7904: nvidia mx200 32mb
The Tired Technician#8073: And I still got one more row to go |
The United States Air Force#7904: 2 evga 8400 gs cards
The United States Air Force#7904: 7900gs 256mb
The United States Air Force#7904: ati rage 128
The United States Air Force#7904: getting a gt 430 for lulz
The United States Air Force#7904: I think thats all the cards I have that work and aren't in a system rn
The United States Air Force#7904: I have like 10-15 more in systems
The Tired Technician#8073: Only one card I don't know about in this pile
The Tired Technician#8073: and thats the last card this last row
The United States Air Force#7904: and a nonworking agp 6800gt and 7800gt
The Tired Technician#8073: Same as before left to right
The Tired Technician#8073: last row
The United States Air Force#7904: looks like an nvidia oem meme of some sort id
The United States Air Force#7904: k
The United States Air Force#7904: but its agp so like
The Tired Technician#8073: PNY GeForce 4 Ti 4600 128mb |
The Tired Technician#8073: BFG GeForce 6800 Ultra OC 256mb DDR3
The Tired Technician#8073: MSI nvidia GTX 1050 Ti low profile
The United States Air Force#7904: damn
The Tired Technician#8073: And that last card that idk wtf it is
The United States Air Force#7904: are those now cards in ur pcs
The United States Air Force#7904: or no
The Tired Technician#8073: Some ATI Radeon card
The Tired Technician#8073: Those are all my spare GPUs
The Tired Technician#8073: that I jus have sitting around
The Tired Technician#8073: Got a few more that are currently in us
The United States Air Force#7904: damn
The Tired Technician#8073: Use*
The United States Air Force#7904: you should sell the 1050ti to a gamer in need if u don't use it
The United States Air Force#7904: p sure that would get snatched up in an instant
The United States Air Force#7904: by a gamer |
The Tired Technician#8073: Ehh I actually got plans for that one
The Tired Technician#8073: Thinking bout putting it in like an HP sff conputer for my girlfriend
The United States Air Force#7904: ah I see
The United States Air Force#7904: nice
The United States Air Force#7904: you have a big collection
The United States Air Force#7904: nearly a jam worthy collection
The Tired Technician#8073: These are just my working cards
The United States Air Force#7904: which makes my small collection look like childs play
The Tired Technician#8073: That aren't in use
The United States Air Force#7904: damn
The Tired Technician#8073: I got other cards in use
The Tired Technician#8073: and an assload of non working cards
The Tired Technician#8073: Or otherwise untested
The United States Air Force#7904: o damn
The Tired Technician#8073: And don't get me started on the non-gpu expansion card collection |
The United States Air Force#7904: do the untested ones have a chance at working?
The United States Air Force#7904: oh damn lol
The United States Air Force#7904: I only have a few non-gpu expansion cards in my collection
The United States Air Force#7904: not much tbh but I guess I started p late... 2016
The Tired Technician#8073: I got firewire cards, TV tuner cards, floppy and IDE controller cards, USB cards
The United States Air Force#7904: well early for my given age
The United States Air Force#7904: o wow
The Tired Technician#8073: you name it I got it
The United States Air Force#7904: damn
The United States Air Force#7904: I only have like 1 4 port usb expansion you can hook up to the mobo
The United States Air Force#7904: and like 3 desktop wifi expansion cards
The United States Air Force#7904: but not floppy or ide connecters
The Tired Technician#8073: Dude I got like a 486 ISA SBC laying around
The Tired Technician#8073: Its crazy
The United States Air Force#7904: whoa |
The United States Air Force#7904: damn that might actually be me in the future if I never throw anything away
The United States Air Force#7904: how many laptops do you have
The United States Air Force#7904: that work
The Tired Technician#8073: Hmmmmmm
The Tired Technician#8073: Dont really want to count
The Tired Technician#8073: But I'm guesstimating about 30 ish
The United States Air Force#7904: I got like 23 or 24 rn
The United States Air Force#7904: outta space so like
The United States Air Force#7904: I think I have 50 phones though maybe more idk
The Tired Technician#8073: I could start an Ebay store with how much crap I have
The United States Air Force#7904: but most phones are ewaste
The United States Air Force#7904: yeah you could
The Tired Technician#8073: I need a DOS computer for things n stuff
The Tired Technician#8073: so maybe I could stick that voodoo 2 in it
The Tired Technician#8073: That might work |
The United States Air Force#7904: hmm
The United States Air Force#7904: I once saw a dos laptop for $5 and $15 in shipping on ebay
The United States Air Force#7904: untested but had hdd and stuff
The United States Air Force#7904: it was an early panasonic
The Tired Technician#8073: For now I can just emulate it. But I would like to have an actual bare metal system for dos
The United States Air Force#7904: what specs
The Tired Technician#8073: On what?
The United States Air Force#7904: do you want
The United States Air Force#7904: on ur dos machine
The Tired Technician#8073: Ah
The Tired Technician#8073: I was thinking socket 7 Pentium 133
The Tired Technician#8073: Ish
The United States Air Force#7904: nice
The Tired Technician#8073: Something around there
The United States Air Force#7904: also is it a problem if you are tripping over pc parts because there is no more space? |
The Tired Technician#8073: I remember seeing abukuku aka tech tangents doing something similar in an ICRDA computer
The Tired Technician#8073: And I think that's a good problem to have
The United States Air Force#7904: do you have an early el-cheapo web browsing machine from the 90s
The Tired Technician#8073: I got a Packard Bell Multimedia computer laying around from.... 99? I think? But dunno if thats working
The United States Air Force#7904: nah even worse
The United States Air Force#7904: like no optical or floppy drive
The United States Air Force#7904: or even hdd
The United States Air Force#7904: has a flash chip that runs some custom os
The Tired Technician#8073: Nah dont got any of those laying around sadly
The United States Air Force#7904: for early web browsing
The United States Air Force#7904: I found one at a thrift store for $8 and thought it some dvr or smth
The United States Air Force#7904: turns out its a full on pc with a socket 7 cyrix meme
The United States Air Force#7904: and 16mb ram
The United States Air Force#7904: no ide ports
The United States Air Force#7904: 😦 |
The Tired Technician#8073: I found a CD player computer like budget did at a flea market once. For like 10 bucks
The United States Air Force#7904: damn
The United States Air Force#7904: I kinda want one of those
The Tired Technician#8073: I have it laying around somewhere
The United States Air Force#7904: I haven't been to a thrift store in 2 years
The United States Air Force#7904: hell the last time I stepped in an electronics store was pre covid
The Tired Technician#8073: Oof
The Tired Technician#8073: I could go to a pawn shop rn if I wanted to
The United States Air Force#7904: although I do plan on going out p soon but like what can a 16yo who doesn't know how to drive do
The United States Air Force#7904: other than ebay
The Tired Technician#8073: Me who's 21 and has his own car
The Tired Technician#8073: Meme
The United States Air Force#7904: lol
The Tired Technician#8073: Anyways I'm gunna go shower. I'm all sweaty and crap
The United States Air Force#7904: ok |
FuckinReece#0021: can somebody recommend a wifi card
FuckinReece#0021: i need to get rid of the usb one im using and i just cant stand losing connection in games because of it
The Tired Technician#8073: Honestly anything that can see 5.0ghz WiFi connections is fine. 20 bucks and youre golden
DarknessFalls229#2286: Uh sure? Dunno which card it is and what problem it has
Sony PS-FL77#3627: 0 clue but it'll probably be coming your way lmao
Foxious#1859: @FuckinReece Im using an ASUS PCE-AX3000, its not cheap but works brilliantly https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/833351396329783326/P_setting_xxx_0_90_end_692.png
Foxious#1859: @ me if you have questions
Foxious#1859: Cant promise that i can help but i can try
dwtietz#0421: Any luck on locating that Extreme PaintBrawl CD @Budget? Not try to pester you or anything, and I'm not trying to rush you either... Just curious.
Bae#4506: Trojan/Generic.nyrg i need to find some info on it
Muse#0557: AMD Ryzen Generations
By Muse
**Zen** (14nm) Summit Ridge/Raven Ridge/Whitehaven
Ryzen 3- 1200, 1300X, 2200G |
Ryzen 5- 1400, 1500X, 1600, 1600X, 2400G
Ryzen 7- 1700, 1700X, 1800X
Threadripper (TR4) - 1900X, 1920X, 1950X
**Zen+** (12nm) Pinaccle Ridge/Picasso/Colfax
Ryzen 3- 1200AF, 2300X, 3200G
Ryzen 5- 1600AF, 2600, 2600X, 3400G
Ryzen 7- 2700, 2700X
Threadripper(TR4)- 2920X, 2950X, 2970WX, 2990WX
**Zen 2** (7nm) Mattise/Castle Peak/Renoir
Ryzen 3- 3100, 3300X
Ryzen 5- 3500X, 3600, 3600X, 3600XT
Ryzen 7- 3700X, 3800X, 3800XT
Ryzen 9- 3900X, 3900XT, 3950X |
Threadripper (TRx40)- 3960X, 3970X, 3990X
**Zen 3** (7nm) Vermeer
Ryzen 5- 5600X
Ryzen 7- 5800X
Ryzen 9- 5900X, 5950X
Muse#0557: Pinned a message.
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Muse how about the ryzen 4000 OEM APUs?
Muse#0557: No oem sorry
Muse#0557: If you really want to make one i can pin it
DarknessFalls229#2286: nah, but what are they? Zen 2 renoir?
Muse#0557: Probably
DarknessFalls229#2286: hm okay
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/834076784458727474/Screenshot_20210420_154237_com.android.chrome.png,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/834076784709468180/Screenshot_20210420_154307_com.android.chrome.png
JustinXenyx#8854: wouldn't the Threadripper CPUs be named Threadripper instead of being sorted after their sockets? |
Muse#0557: 🙏
JustinXenyx#8854: 'cause they're certainly not called "Ryzen TRX40 3990X" :Hahahahaha:
Muse#0557: That'll do
Muse#0557: Just want to distinguish them
Nasko#4961: I didnt know a 2300x existed
Muse#0557: It was oem only for a while
Nasko#4961: aha
FuckinReece#0021: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/792276759860609055/834114952116568144/unknown.png
FuckinReece#0021: real conversation
Budget#8265: @dwtietz Hello. Good news ive found it, will check the contents in a bit
Budget#8265: have been exceptionally busy with work at the moment
dwtietz#0421: No worries @Budget , that's great news! I'm not even concerned about the contents per se, but if it's all there that's a bonus for sure. In my collection, most of my discs are just that - the discs. This is because when I was younger back in the 90's I was very poor and moved around the province a lot living in bachelor apartments or basically out of a duffle bag, so I never had room anywhere to keep boxes. I do have a couple of boxes, but the discs alone have always been my essential focal point. 😉
dwtietz#0421: Having some boxes now is pretty cool though, now that I'm much older and own a house, with a gun cabinet exclusively setup for storing my discs. 😉 So, at any point in time (no rush by any means) if you think you might be interested in selling that feel free to contact me publicly or privately so that we could make the arrangements. 🙂
hare_ware#4880: Are these good prices for these parts? Decided to not touch Ryzen until the whole chip shortage thing is over... Whole system is this + RX460, 240 W PSU, 8GB of RAM, 500GB crucial mx500. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/834254744322834432/PXL_20210421_022257378.dng
hare_ware#4880: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/834254851973578803/PXL_20210421_022257378.jpg |
The United States Air Force#7904: that mobo price
The United States Air Force#7904: eek
Dogecode#7321: ye
Dogecode#7321: id say get am4, even if you have to go for something like ryzen 1200 or even athlon 200ge/3000g it'll be roughly the same price and you'll actually have an upgrade path
Dogecode#7321: that xeon is prehistoric in comparison
hare_ware#4880: But also faster for less, right now.
Dogecode#7321: id rather get in a good situation to upgrade than commit to a dead platform, even if its slightly faster
hare_ware#4880: Is the 3000G the fastest Athlon?
hare_ware#4880: The problem I have with slower AM4 is that, it's not much faster than my current platform. The E3-1230 v1 + 16 GB of DDR3 would be a better value, and I just keep the rest of my system
hare_ware#4880: Maybe I'll just go that route and avoid the headache...
hare_ware#4880: Biggest downside is really just keeping the Optiplex motherboard, but I've already learned to live with it at this point really.
The Tired Technician#8073: Theres also like the 240ge
The Tired Technician#8073: but you could also pick up the AMD A12-9800 or the AMD Athlon X4 950 if you want the AM4 platform that is really really cheap
The Tired Technician#8073: pick up a ryzen later
The Tired Technician#8073: But as far as I know, the 3000g is the fasted AM4 athlon out right now. |
The Tired Technician#8073: Honestly AM4 even now is worth it. Browsing aliexpress for even a little bit you can find a cheap board and processor.
The Tired Technician#8073: Having experience with both 2nd gen intel both xeon and consumer platform, going newer platform is werf
The Tired Technician#8073: even if you have fewer physical cores, they are much stronger cores than that xeon bundle
The Tired Technician#8073: but AMD doing their thing, they usually have more cores than intel anyways, so wont really have to worry about that
hare_ware#4880: Still not sure if cheap AM4 is worth it over just buying an E3-1230 v1. Need to look at more benchmarks
The Tired Technician#8073: It all depends
The Tired Technician#8073: *which* cheap AM4 are you looking at
D.D.M#8226: if you dont plan to overclock
D.D.M#8226: a simple a320 will do
The Tired Technician#8073: A320 board, and a ryzen 5 3500X off AliExpress is like 200 bucks total
The Tired Technician#8073: with ram and cooler included
The Tired Technician#8073: or even cheaper, you could get an R5 1500X
The Tired Technician#8073: for like, 70 USD
The Tired Technician#8073: which is already what youre paying for that 4th gen intel chip you were going to buy off ebay
hare_ware#4880: A B450 board, Ryzen R5 1600 vs all the Athlons and and 8 GB of DDR4. |
vs E3-1230 v1, keep my motherboard, buy a 16 GB or 32 GB kit of RAM.
vs E3-1230 v3 and keep my RAM (8GB)
The Tired Technician#8073: Are you looking to overclock
The Tired Technician#8073: yay or nay
The Tired Technician#8073: if yes, you can go for a B*3*50 board, and save a little money there
The Tired Technician#8073: if not, A320 is even cheaper than that
hare_ware#4880: No, overclocking, this is a workstation. Doesn't B350 kind negate the whole upgrade path thing? Theres no Zen 2 support afaik.
The Tired Technician#8073: Maybe, but if youre going to buy cheap ryzen anyways, that isnt an issue
hare_ware#4880: The R5 1500X is going for around $140 on eBay, I'm scared to check amazon
The Tired Technician#8073: dont check either of those
The Tired Technician#8073: https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20210420212857&SearchText=AM4+cpu
The Tired Technician#8073: thats what youre looking for
The Tired Technician#8073: AliExpress, Tao Bao, Deal Extreme
The Tired Technician#8073: Ebay is usually good, but chinese websites are better
The Tired Technician#8073: like an 8 core 1500X right now is going for about 80 bucks |
D.D.M#8226: eh i would go with the 3500x
The Tired Technician#8073: That is a better option yes, but they were saying cheap
The Tired Technician#8073: and that is cheap for ryzen right now
hare_ware#4880: What's the catch? How is this possible?
The Tired Technician#8073: Catch is shipping time
The Tired Technician#8073: usually takes about a month in shipping on a boat from china
hare_ware#4880: I knew about that, but there's gotta be something worse, why do all the seller have these CPU? how are they able and willing to charge these prices?
The Tired Technician#8073: Because they are Chinese OEM deal
The Tired Technician#8073: deals*
The Tired Technician#8073: they pulled these processors from china only OEM machines and are reselling them at a discount for being used
The Tired Technician#8073: at least for the majority of cases
The Tired Technician#8073: some are probably really cheap because all the FABs are over there, so workers can come home with computer parts
The Tired Technician#8073: that were spare or something
The Tired Technician#8073: but bottom line is, all the manufacturing for these things are over there, so its cheap.
hare_ware#4880: souvenir-bin dies hehe |
hare_ware#4880: But I'm not sure if 3 more months with an i3-2100 is worth the savings...
The Tired Technician#8073: and bonus deal, you can pick up the southeast asia specific CPUs, the 1500X, 3500X, ryzen pro 4560G
The Tired Technician#8073: things like that
The Tired Technician#8073: things that were never released for american markets
The Tired Technician#8073: prime reason is gaming cafes. AMD makes a cut down version of a chip that already exists, and sells it to gaming cafes at a discount
The Tired Technician#8073: then once all these cafes are done using them and upgrade
The Tired Technician#8073: guess where they go
The Tired Technician#8073: like the 1500X is just a 1700X without the Hyperthreading
The Tired Technician#8073: sorry
The Tired Technician#8073: SMT
hare_ware#4880: This is very very tempting, ngl. But 3 months, especially with most of that being summer break, sound pretty bad, but at the same time I'll be out of town a for a few weeks of that... remoting in to the sandy i3 though...
The Tired Technician#8073: For now, just a basic stopgap
The Tired Technician#8073: you could consider the Xeon E3-1275 v1
The Tired Technician#8073: its the i7-2600 but just a hair cheaper
The Tired Technician#8073: right now its about 60 bucks on AliExpress |
The Tired Technician#8073: and the i7 equivalent is 80-90 ish
hare_ware#4880: The E3-1230 is now going for $35 :Heyyy:
The Tired Technician#8073: aye, but the 1275 is clocked higher, at normal i7 clocks
The Tired Technician#8073: instead of the i7 S skew
hare_ware#4880: And the same power draw, might end up having to replace the cooler too, and I'm not sure if the Optiplex 990 uses a standard mount
The Tired Technician#8073: for just putting an i7 into it?
The Tired Technician#8073: itll be fine
The Tired Technician#8073: i got the 9020 with the same cooler with the 4770k and it stays nice and cool
The Tired Technician#8073: or is it the 4790k....
The Tired Technician#8073: eh either one
The Tired Technician#8073: but to answer your question, no Dell does not use a standard mount. And even if they did, they have a proprietary CPU fan pinout
The Tired Technician#8073: If youre really worried about heat, you can buy the taller tower cooler that you can pick up on ebay for cheap
The Tired Technician#8073: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Optiplex-790-390-990-790-Tower-Desktop-CPU-Heatsink-Fan-0D0W1H-089R8J/284166305560?hash=item4229a1b718:g:2LoAAOSwUKxYbq0q
The Tired Technician#8073: But mine has the stock little low profile bro on it, and its fine
hare_ware#4880: Alright, the E3-1275 isn't actually that much more expensive (found one for $45), I'm going to commit. No turning back or reconsidering it, I'll need an HDMI to DVI/VGA converter and tube of thermal paste too though. |
The Tired Technician#8073: the 1275 is a good stopgap for upgrading your system
The Tired Technician#8073: you have the MT or SFF version?
hare_ware#4880: MT, but it's in a normal case now.
The Tired Technician#8073: right-o
The Tired Technician#8073: one more thing if you havent bought it yet
The Tired Technician#8073: make sure that chip will work with your chipset
The Tired Technician#8073: I think you have the Q67 Express chipset
hare_ware#4880: Yeah
The Tired Technician#8073: Ive had problems in the past with that chipset talking with Xeons
hare_ware#4880: I've seen people pair it with the E3-1230
The Tired Technician#8073: yeah its kinda touch and go
The Tired Technician#8073: like my HP 8200 Elite system will not speak with my spare 1275 at all
The Tired Technician#8073: but will talk with the i7-2600
The Tired Technician#8073: then my own dell can see that same 1275 on the same chipset
The Tired Technician#8073: its touch and go |
hare_ware#4880: Oh wait, is it an Optiplex? What's the BIOS version?
The Tired Technician#8073: well its a 790, so not quite the same
The Tired Technician#8073: but lemme check
The Tired Technician#8073: pretty sure I updated it to the latest revision though
hare_ware#4880: I think the 790 only really had less DIMM slots, and maybe less sata
The Tired Technician#8073: Bios version is A21
The Tired Technician#8073: release date March 21, 2018
hare_ware#4880: I'll remember to check that the next time I reboot, but I'm probably on something older
The Tired Technician#8073: 790 also has a different chipset
The Tired Technician#8073: Q65 Express as apposed to Q67 Express
The Tired Technician#8073: different board technically as well
The Tired Technician#8073: I would update it to lastest revision though, just to be safe
hare_ware#4880: I could also try both
The Tired Technician#8073: Well just wait till the actual CPU gets there
The Tired Technician#8073: then make sure to update the BIOS before putting in the new guy |
hare_ware#4880: I'll probably only update if it doesn't work, rather not find out the hard way it got locked out in a newer bios.
The Tired Technician#8073: yeah thats true
The Tired Technician#8073: BIOS is more of a "if it isnt broke, dont fix it" kinda thing anyways
Dogecode#7321: Not recommended
Dogecode#7321: a320 is also a dead platform
Dogecode#7321: at least go up a notch to b450 so you can get 5000 series eventually
D.D.M#8226: hmm weird
D.D.M#8226: i built a couple systems with those mobos for friends
The Tired Technician#8073: I mean I have an A320
The Tired Technician#8073: seems fine to me
D.D.M#8226: and they didnt have issues yet
hare_ware#4880: I'm going with an E3-1275 v1, and waiting out the shortage.
The Tired Technician#8073: @Dogecode hey we just about have the same CPU. You have the normal 2600, I have the 2600X
The Tired Technician#8073: fun
The Tired Technician#8073: But yes, my advice for a stopgap until this all blows over was just upgrade the system you currently have for cheap |
The Tired Technician#8073: its still plenty good
Dogecode#7321: was gonna get the 2600x but the one I ended up getting was actually a 2600
Dogecode#7321: for the better anyway since the x skew is only marginally better
Dogecode#7321: for more money
The Tired Technician#8073: I got the 2600X for 60 bucks :P
Dogecode#7321: when was that
Dogecode#7321: got mine back in 2019 when it was still relatively fresh
The Tired Technician#8073: right when 3000 came out, so only abour a year old
The Tired Technician#8073: there were some meaty price slashes on these things
Dogecode#7321: that was a good deal
The Tired Technician#8073: damn right it was
Dogecode#7321: its a perfectly good platform I guess but a320 doesn’t support ryzen 5000
hare_ware#4880: Wait, is A-Tech ram good or should I avoid it and just get a used kit
Dogecode#7321: unless that changed and I wasn’t aware of it
The Tired Technician#8073: A-tech is aight |
The Tired Technician#8073: its pretty compatible with most stuff
The Tired Technician#8073: just kinda generic looking
D.D.M#8226: ye i know
D.D.M#8226: i mentioned the board because the dude wanted to go cheap as possible
The Tired Technician#8073: hey I just found a PCI USB 3.0 card
The Tired Technician#8073: and its even low profile
The Tired Technician#8073: I think im in love
The Tired Technician#8073: Now my HP 8200 Elite SFF can finally have USB 3.0
Dogecode#7321: theres going as cheap as possible and then theres going as cheap as possible while still getting a good deal
Dogecode#7321: its worth spending a tiny bit more for an extra feature or two
hare_ware#4880: ^^ especially when the whole point is spending more for an upgrade path, doesn't make sense to cheap out on the board, if you plan to keep it through a GPU and CPU upgrade or two.
The Tired Technician#8073: now i get to deal with a computer that doesnt support USB boot
The Tired Technician#8073: aaaaamazing
Dogecode#7321: what computer doesn’t support that
is it some old pentium 3 |
The Tired Technician#8073: Yup.
The Tired Technician#8073: 450mhz gateway machine
Dogecode#7321: download a win98 iso from winworld and burn it onto a cd
Dogecode#7321: thats what I did
The Tired Technician#8073: already got 98 se on an official microsoft disk
The Tired Technician#8073: full install cd
Dogecode#7321: nice
The Tired Technician#8073: since it was made in 99 as far as I can tell
The Tired Technician#8073: I might sneak some ME on there
The Tired Technician#8073: for the lulz
Dogecode#7321: ive got win95 on legit microsoft cd
Dogecode#7321: still have yet to use it for what I bought it for, since I never managed to fix the hard drive in that laptop
The Tired Technician#8073: Only thing I can think of for this thing would be like
The Tired Technician#8073: Phantasmagoria
Dogecode#7321: I picked up a cf card and adapter but it didnt work |
Dogecode#7321: every time I tried to install msdos it just failed to format it
The Tired Technician#8073: F
The Tired Technician#8073: I have still need one of those CF to IDE boards so I can get my original pentium machine working
Dogecode#7321: also I was trying to install msdos on a pentium m dell and was gonna swap the drive over
Dogecode#7321: Since that laptop lacks a floppy drive
Dogecode#7321: but whether that wouldve worked or not it didnt want to format the cf card
The Tired Technician#8073: F
Bae#4506: dying psu? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/834464894916100096/filtered-8633E80E-CEBA-4D37-9B15-1CEEBA802974.mp4
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah, or theres a short somewhere
Bae#4506: yea it worked last week
Bae#4506: sadge
Bae#4506: damn you old hardware
DarknessFalls229#2286: how old is that PSU?
Bae#4506: old as fuck
DarknessFalls229#2286: well that might be why |
Bae#4506: found it in the attic
Bae#4506: yea
Dogecode#7321: sketchy
Bae#4506: very
LaeMat#0420: tf is this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/834515042598649927/PXL_20210421_194421120.jpg
LaeMat#0420: I'm trying to boot from a usb
LaeMat#0420: the usb works on my PC
D.D.M#8226: Weird
D.D.M#8226: Search for error online
D.D.M#8226: And maybr check youf iso
D.D.M#8226: Your
LaeMat#0420: my iso worked fine on my main pc
LaeMat#0420: i'll try doing it again
D.D.M#8226: Also what distro are you installing?
LaeMat#0420: i'm running a live boot |
LaeMat#0420: off of a usb
LaeMat#0420: it's kubuntu
D.D.M#8226: Oh kubuntu
D.D.M#8226: So from looking around it says it might be a drive issue
LaeMat#0420: usb drive issue
LaeMat#0420: i wouldn't be suprised
D.D.M#8226: Or your flavor of the distro doesn't like the pc or usb
LaeMat#0420: it's a shit usb
LaeMat#0420: but i
LaeMat#0420: i'll try another distro
D.D.M#8226: Maybe burn a dvd or smth
LaeMat#0420: oh man https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/834518439845429274/unknown.png
D.D.M#8226: Oof
LaeMat#0420: wtf? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/834518998116466719/unknown.png
D.D.M#8226: Bruh you have an older rufus |
D.D.M#8226: Maybe update it
LaeMat#0420: could it be my AV? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/834519641270910996/unknown.png
LaeMat#0420: it scans it every time
D.D.M#8226: Hmm
D.D.M#8226: Maybe it is
D.D.M#8226: Maybe try check the checksuns
D.D.M#8226: Sums
D.D.M#8226: With rufus and compare them on their site
LaeMat#0420: kubuntu installs fine
LaeMat#0420: i'll try ubuntu mate https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/834520905467691018/unknown.png
LaeMat#0420: yeah new mate worked
LaeMat#0420: i'll try booting it
D.D.M#8226: Ok
LaeMat#0420: ayo it works
D.D.M#8226: Told you its the iso |
The United States Air Force#7904: so is there like a test to get a pc technician cert
klondike#0580: games have seizures when i focus on the game window but is fine when i click windows key
LaeMat#0420: tf is this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/834629491179388978/unknown.png
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Press Enter?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Or remove your keyboard/mouse/USB?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @LaeMat
Lady Mipha#0611: that may be a hdd issue
LaeMat#0420: it's a vm
The Tired Technician#8073: piece of shit HP wont see my xeon
The Tired Technician#8073: rrrrrrrrrrrr its making me mad
The Tired Technician#8073: desperation bios flash time
The Tired Technician#8073: fucking finally
The Tired Technician#8073: the stupid Xeon is working in this HP
The Tired Technician#8073: but now it wont load windows from the stupid USB stick
The Tired Technician#8073: hrrrrrnnngggggg I really want to throw this thing out the window |
The Tired Technician#8073: "Windows could not update the computer's boot configuration. Installation cannot proceed"
The Tired Technician#8073: Horseshit
FuckinReece#0021: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/834742514908659722/unknown.png
read bio/description#8459: lmao defo a 1050 ti
D.D.M#8226: Anybody know how to change the renderer of premier pro?
D.D.M#8226: A friend keeps getting an error that its missing d3d12.dll file but that might be his gpus fault
Lady Mipha#0611: what gpu
D.D.M#8226: HD 8570
D.D.M#8226: oem gpu
D.D.M#8226: it doesnt suppport dx12
D.D.M#8226: from what i am finding
Lady Mipha#0611: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/834797120212959304/Screenshot_20210423-022530_GPU-L.jpg
Lady Mipha#0611: basically like it says it has it but in reality it doesn't
D.D.M#8226: yep
D.D.M#8226: so |
D.D.M#8226: is there a way to change the renderer
D.D.M#8226: because i cant find anything about changing it
Lady Mipha#0611: :Thonking:
Lady Mipha#0611: me neither
evilcoweeee#3814: Just bought a 3TB hard drive with 59598 hours on it lol
evilcoweeee#3814: It's a HGST hard drive pulled from a server apparently. Just using as a game drive and I got a good enough deal on it so if it dies then whatever.
D.D.M#8226: Bruh nearly 60000 hours
D.D.M#8226: I mean
D.D.M#8226: If it isnt that old
D.D.M#8226: It might have a better chance
evilcoweeee#3814: its from july 2013
evilcoweeee#3814: so yeah kinda old
D.D.M#8226: Well then i wouldn't trust it with any personal info
D.D.M#8226: So just keep using it as a game drive
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i should be getting a new ssd shouldnt i ? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/834877718641508392/unknown.png |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: 94% health and with ssds afaik this means its on the line
D.D.M#8226: Eh
D.D.M#8226: If it becomes yellow
D.D.M#8226: Then ye
D.D.M#8226: Be worried
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^
Lady Mipha#0611: how many years have you had it
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: barely 2 years
Lady Mipha#0611: you're fine right now
Bae#4506: i use a 5 year old ssd in my old rig
Bae#4506: holds up well
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Mine is from 2008
Sony PS-FL77#3627: And I use one from 2006 in a dif PC
The Tired Technician#8073: I got like a 60gb sata II intel SSD thats my boot drive for my secondary system
The Tired Technician#8073: then again my secondary system is Manjaro not Win10 |
The Tired Technician#8073: doesnt take up as much space or system resources
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I have a 2010 Intel SSD in my T61
The Tired Technician#8073: T61... thats a thinkpad yeah?
The Tired Technician#8073: core 2 duo, 3gb of ram kinda deal?
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Think 4GB in mine but ye
The Tired Technician#8073: noice
Sony PS-FL77#3627: 16x10 1050p screen
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Think the CPU was t7100
The Tired Technician#8073: that Q6600 is probably pretty long in the tooth by now too yah?
The Tired Technician#8073: I mean it works, and thats all that really matters I suppose
Sony PS-FL77#3627: The Q6600 is what's in one of my desktops ye
Perfectly fine for most windows 10 use
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Other PC is an Athlon II x3 unlocked to Phenom II X4 with a stupid overclock to nearly 4Ghz
The Tired Technician#8073: I mean up until recently I was using a Phenom II X6, which is same gen ish
The Tired Technician#8073: and yah |
The Tired Technician#8073: works for windows 10
The Tired Technician#8073: most cases
Sony PS-FL77#3627: My main laptop is a bit different however
Sony PS-FL77#3627: There's my T61
With the T7100
Which is like
Fine
Runs Linux
The Tired Technician#8073: My Pentium D is running Linux right now
The Tired Technician#8073: works fine
Sony PS-FL77#3627: But then there's the alpha
My i7-10750h powered laptop with a 1650TI and 16GB of ram
The Tired Technician#8073: thats actually pretty similar to what im rocking now
The Tired Technician#8073: just im on a desktop and you have a laptop
The Tired Technician#8073: 6 core 12 thread processor, GTX 1070, 24gb of ram running at 2866 |
The Tired Technician#8073: so fairly similar
read bio/description#8459: my man just got l3 cache out of nothing
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Nah there's still no L3 cache but when you unlock it it gets called a Phenom II by your Biod
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Bios*
read bio/description#8459: bruh
read bio/description#8459: its more of an athlon ii x4 then
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Holy shit captain 200 IQ out here
read bio/description#8459: I don't understand I'm tired its 1:30 am
Sony PS-FL77#3627: It's 1 30 here too and I am screaming because covid keeps waking me up
read bio/description#8459: U got rona? Get better soon, good luck!
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Thank you thank you
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Apologies for being sassy btw
Sony PS-FL77#3627: This has put me in a bit of a mood xD
read bio/description#8459: Tech https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/835298539079991315/Intel-Xe-MAX-with-TGL-CPU.jpg
Lady Mipha#0611: F get well soon |
Muse#0557: Always moody
The United States Air Force#7904: Question why does a mobo turn on and post for a few seconds then abruptly turn off
The United States Air Force#7904: I think its a capacitor or smth but idk
cant fit deez nuts in ya mouth#4345: Is the ryzen 3700x worth it rn
Grockle#7163: I'd say at 299 or so, yes
Grockle#7163: It depends
cant fit deez nuts in ya mouth#4345: Cool
mi3night#2562: Depends on what you’re doing
mi3night#2562: If you’re gaming, get 5600x
mi3night#2562: Oh nvm 5600x stocks don’t exist anymore again
mi3night#2562: Well it depends
mi3night#2562: You already have am4 mobo @cant fit deez nuts in ya mouth
rriot#6100: in stock here https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/835577492235485234/unknown.png
mi3night#2562: If you don’t have a am4 mobo and you have a decent cpu cooler. I think something like a 10700kf for same price would do
mi3night#2562: But if you have am4 mobo why not get 3700x |
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I smell a filthy Dutch
rriot#6100: the sweet scent of cheese and wooden shoes
cant fit deez nuts in ya mouth#4345: i have nothing but a case also where i live the 5600x is like 400 dollar plus a hdmi cable cuz why not
cant fit deez nuts in ya mouth#4345: also ill be gaming and editing
cant fit deez nuts in ya mouth#4345: and possibly streaming
mi3night#2562: 3700x @cant fit deez nuts in ya mouth
mi3night#2562: Yeah get it
cant fit deez nuts in ya mouth#4345: Doesn’t the i7 10700kf require a z490 motherboard
cant fit deez nuts in ya mouth#4345: Those aren’t very cheap xD
NecroFlex#9105: no?
NecroFlex#9105: you can get a cheap B460 mobo
NecroFlex#9105: you just won't be able to OC the CPU
AngryDavid 808#3214: Hello!
AngryDavid 808#3214: I wanted to ask for help about getting GTA V to work on my laptop
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: What's the specifications of your laptop? |
AngryDavid 808#3214: @Charlie Foxtrot
Intel Core i7 Q720
4 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 340M (VRAM = 1GB)
AngryDavid 808#3214: Apart from 1.5 TB of storage (1 TB External)
AngryDavid 808#3214: The whole problem is that it just stops responding as soon as the window is open.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Ohhhhhh
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Those specs are bad
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Like really bad
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @AngryDavid 808
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: 340M is like 2010 technology now
Dogecode#7321: it might run it
but youd be looking at lowest settings 480p with no shadows
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I doubt it
Dogecode#7321: budget got it running on terrible hardware before |
Dogecode#7321: but youve gotta kiss any and all graphical enhancements goodbye
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Might as well play SA at this point
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: It would be less of an eyesore
Dogecode#7321: ye I wouldn't screw with it even if you could get it playable by doing that
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: And you can get it for 0 dollars
Dogecode#7321: would look horrible
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Or you could use a game streaming service
Dogecode#7321: yes thats true
Dogecode#7321: its actually not a bad deal from what ive heard
Dogecode#7321: especially in the gpu climate
Dogecode#7321: and you can squeeze by with some terrible hardware
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Conspiracy theory: NVIDIA sanctioned GPU bitcoin mining because it would force more people to use their streaming service
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: During COVID when they are locked up in their homes too
The United States Air Force#7904: Wait where can u get gta sa for free?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Ask Mr.Google |
The United States Air Force#7904: Lol
The United States Air Force#7904: I thought alot of those were viruses
Dogecode#7321: yeah i wouldnt do that
cant fit deez nuts in ya mouth#4345: If I won’t OC then wouldn’t a 10700f or 10700 be the better cpu ?
mi3night#2562: I mean tbh if you look at the prices right now
mi3night#2562: B560 supports ram oc
mi3night#2562: So it’s same price as b550 on amd side at $100 or so
mi3night#2562: But 10700f is cheaper at $260
mi3night#2562: Actually depends on your country’s price
mi3night#2562: But in the US, the 10700f is $80 cheaper
mi3night#2562: One upside of amd is that you can upgrade anytime to a 3900x/5800x
mi3night#2562: Unlike intel where you’re just stuck to 10900k
mi3night#2562: Also the 3700x stock cooler is better than intel stock cooler
mi3night#2562: So u might need a 212 evo for 10700f
NecroFlex#9105: I mean, prices can be up and down, ao it could be little to no difference between this and the other 2. Also the KF can turbo higher iirc. |
exquisitedark#1117: how do i make ecc ram work with normal
exquisitedark#1117: i have one 8 gig stick of normal and i have 2 4 gig ecc
exquisitedark#1117: i wanna switch one ecc with the normal one
D.D.M#8226: you cant
D.D.M#8226: ecc mem has a different notch on the pins
D.D.M#8226: so you cant just slot it in a normal mobo
exquisitedark#1117: i have ecc already in my computer
DarknessFalls229#2286: @D.D.M erm pretty sure ECC memory has the same notch location as non-ECC. Some ECC sticks, dont know which, support working in non-ECC mode. My server worked with a mix of ECC and non-ECC without issues (somehow). So you can probably run ECC sticks on a non-ECC compatible platform, but it has to be ECC sticks that are compatible with it. Not something like fully buffered im pretty sure
NecroFlex#9105: it had a different notch back in the ddr2 era
D.D.M#8226: Hmm
D.D.M#8226: Maybe ye
D.D.M#8226: Idk havent worked with ecc mem in a while
D.D.M#8226: Ask cobs
DarknessFalls229#2286: seems to be correct, my FBDIMM of DDR2 doesnt fit in my regular DDR2 slot
DarknessFalls229#2286: never actually tried that |
DarknessFalls229#2286: i did accidentally use 1GB ECC sticks that didnt work with the AM3 board i tried them with
AngryDavid 808#3214: It really really is. That's why I'm asking, I couldn't find help
AngryDavid 808#3214: Honestly I don't really care about them. I play GTA IV on lowest settings possible. Even Black Mesa.
AngryDavid 808#3214: I just want to barely play the game, that's all. It consumed half of my internet bandwidth for a month.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @AngryDavid 808 https://youtu.be/T9WVThW3CNc
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Good luck
AngryDavid 808#3214: I'll give it a shot ❤️
AngryDavid 808#3214: I should mention that I have the Epic Games version
AngryDavid 808#3214: I grabbed it for free when it was on sale.
D.D.M#8226: its the same method
The Tired Technician#8073: This HP absolutely will not install Windows 10
The Tired Technician#8073: and its making me extremely angry
hare_ware#4880: I install that E3-1275 in my Optiplex 990, ran great once last night, even ran a benchmark, and started mirroring my hard drive. It was hovering around 75°C when I purposely opened like 6 copies of Geekbench. I rebooted it after that, and now it's stuck in a POST with this code: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/835924856683364352/PXL_20210425_1701142662.jpg
hare_ware#4880: I've tried removing everything, USB, PCIe, SATA, and even RAM just to be sure, but it still won't boot
hare_ware#4880: It seems to be this error, I just reinstalled the power button from the original case https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/835928332138446908/Screenshot_20210425-132004.png |
The Tired Technician#8073: overthermal protection error?
hare_ware#4880: It wasn't overheating when I was running geekbench. It's been stopping in that exact spot on boot too @The Tired Technician
The Tired Technician#8073: you got a GPU in it?
hare_ware#4880: Yeah
The Tired Technician#8073: take it out then
hare_ware#4880: Already tried that
hare_ware#4880: Took out and unplugged everything
The Tired Technician#8073: :/
hare_ware#4880: I guess my only option is to put the i3 back in and update the bios
The Tired Technician#8073: maybe?
D.D.M#8226: i think i had the same issue
The Tired Technician#8073: if it doesnt boot with the i3 in it though that might be a problem
D.D.M#8226: though my pc didnt tell me codes
hare_ware#4880: Worked the first boot, but not the second?
D.D.M#8226: it updated a driver through win upade |
D.D.M#8226: and stoped
D.D.M#8226: updated the bios my other cpu
D.D.M#8226: and worked just fine later
hare_ware#4880: It stopped posting after a driver update?
hare_ware#4880: Yikes...
The Tired Technician#8073: Desperation BIOS flash time then?
AngryDavid 808#3214: Here goes nothing. I'm going to start up GTA V
hare_ware#4880: Yeah, I'll do it after breakfast
The Tired Technician#8073: sounds like a plan
hare_ware#4880: It's on A05 and the latest is A23.
hare_ware#4880: Wish Dell had a full change log...
AngryDavid 808#3214: Oi
AngryDavid 808#3214: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/835932718243905577/20210425_193715.jpg
AngryDavid 808#3214: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/835932786527305778/20210425_193721.jpg
AngryDavid 808#3214: Those parameters should be correct, right? |
read bio/description#8459: oi whats the issue
D.D.M#8226: gta 5 on lowest settings
D.D.M#8226: absolute
read bio/description#8459: @AngryDavid 808 just use lowspecgamer's newest vid about gta 5
mi3night#2562: oh i cant code sorry
AngryDavid 808#3214: PM please :3
read bio/description#8459: thats just xml, looks simple enough
mi3night#2562: oh
read bio/description#8459: wha
read bio/description#8459: why
read bio/description#8459: just search it up
read bio/description#8459: on yt
AngryDavid 808#3214: Okie then
AngryDavid 808#3214: I did all I could
AngryDavid 808#3214: Now trying to start it |
AngryDavid 808#3214: BULL... CRAP https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/835935913896575046/20210425_195036.jpg
AngryDavid 808#3214: @Charlie Foxtrot That didn't work
DarknessFalls229#2286: keep in mind youre trrying to play it with basicly a glorified Geforce 210
The Tired Technician#8073: wait what graphics card is he trying to use here?
The Tired Technician#8073: for gta V?
DarknessFalls229#2286: GT 320M
The Tired Technician#8073: Oof.
AngryDavid 808#3214: Yeah.. 💔
AngryDavid 808#3214: I wasted 110 GB of Internet Bandwidth for this
DarknessFalls229#2286: rip
The Tired Technician#8073: not meaning to be a rain on this parade, but at that point I would just turn that laptop into a desktop and hijack the PCI (or PCIe) slot in there for a gpu
AngryDavid 808#3214: Idk how
AngryDavid 808#3214: Nor do I have enough money to invest
The Tired Technician#8073: well what laptop do you have
AngryDavid 808#3214: HP Pavillion dv6 |
DarknessFalls229#2286: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/835938923493851157/unknown.png
The Tired Technician#8073: yeah thats basically where im going wit that
AngryDavid 808#3214: I'll do some research
The Tired Technician#8073: you unplug the wifi module from your laptop, and hook in a PCIe cable to hook it up to an external dock
DarknessFalls229#2286: Basicly this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/835939302390235156/20210416_215924.jpg
The Tired Technician#8073: ^
AngryDavid 808#3214: And what about Wi-Fi?
The Tired Technician#8073: you dont need wifi
The Tired Technician#8073: youre turning it into a desktop
AngryDavid 808#3214: Damn that's huge
DarknessFalls229#2286: unless you have a second mini pcie slot you cant use it
The Tired Technician#8073: so just plug it into wired
DarknessFalls229#2286: of course you can do USB wifi
The Tired Technician#8073: that too
AngryDavid 808#3214: That's gonna be quite the task, the router is on the other side of the wall |
The Tired Technician#8073: then USB wifi
AngryDavid 808#3214: That could work
DarknessFalls229#2286: btw
The Tired Technician#8073: you also have a free mSATA slot
The Tired Technician#8073: so you can use that
AngryDavid 808#3214: Which slot is that?
DarknessFalls229#2286: do you have access to your mini pcie slots if you open up the plates on the underside of your laptop?
AngryDavid 808#3214: Never tried to so Idk
The Tired Technician#8073: Looks like that https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/835939846475612231/Untitled.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: wait, you never even opened the underside of your laptop?
AngryDavid 808#3214: Ah!
AngryDavid 808#3214: No. Never.
DarknessFalls229#2286: dang
AngryDavid 808#3214: Concerns.
DarknessFalls229#2286: well, usually there are these slot covers you can open without completely dismantling the laptop |
AngryDavid 808#3214: Yep I saw them
DarknessFalls229#2286: and get access to RAM, storage and such
AngryDavid 808#3214: Yeah I know these
DarknessFalls229#2286: so can you take a look and possible even take a pic?
The Tired Technician#8073: This is what youre looking for https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/835940193181630464/Untitled.png
The Tired Technician#8073: its underneath the stock hard drive
The Tired Technician#8073: thats your wifi
AngryDavid 808#3214: Well that is if the laptop was off
The Tired Technician#8073: take that out, and plug in the other extension cable kit
AngryDavid 808#3214: So it's near the WiFi card
DarknessFalls229#2286: not necessarily
The Tired Technician#8073: it *is* the wifi card
DarknessFalls229#2286: the slot can be anywhere
AngryDavid 808#3214: Oh
The Tired Technician#8073: in this case, the wifi card is plugged into the slot youre looking for |
AngryDavid 808#3214: So we remove the slot and plug in the eGPU there
DarknessFalls229#2286: but still, youre going to need the adapter, a GPU and a powersupply
The Tired Technician#8073: yep
DarknessFalls229#2286: THEN
DarknessFalls229#2286: it still has a possibility to not work
AngryDavid 808#3214: Neat!
DarknessFalls229#2286: as it doesnt on my i7 740QM
AngryDavid 808#3214: That's a problem
The Tired Technician#8073: https://www.ebay.com/itm/372144168003?hash=item56a5855c43:g:v2QAAOSwZqZaFTVS
DarknessFalls229#2286: it give a code 12 on the GPU
AngryDavid 808#3214: Let alone a Q720
The Tired Technician#8073: thats basically what youre looking for
AngryDavid 808#3214: I see now!
The Tired Technician#8073: though youre not looking for an NVMe slot one
The Tired Technician#8073: you want Mini PCIe |
The Tired Technician#8073: or even M.2 Wifi
The Tired Technician#8073: AE key
AngryDavid 808#3214: Maybe their official site can aid me a lot
AngryDavid 808#3214: egpu.io
The Tired Technician#8073: I mean.... maybe? But theres no official place to buy it
The Tired Technician#8073: theres no like, centralized company that manufactures these things. All like china specials
DarknessFalls229#2286: and still, buying the parts could be costly and be prepared to troubleshoot. So you may not want to go into it
The Tired Technician#8073: In my opinion its werf, because im squeezing out the last life of my FX-7500 laptop this way. But its all personal preference
AngryDavid 808#3214: Yeah, I'm not financially strong enough for that
The Tired Technician#8073: its like 70-100 USD for the adapter, probably around 200-300 bucks for any GPU worth putting on there
AngryDavid 808#3214: Good luck buddy
The Tired Technician#8073: then another like 50 for the PSU
AngryDavid 808#3214: Which is 6k LE
The Tired Technician#8073: also I dont need good luck, its already dont and working fine
The Tired Technician#8073: Turned it into an All in One with a GPU |
The Tired Technician#8073: on the back of a monitor I had
AngryDavid 808#3214: Good job man! Keep it up
The Tired Technician#8073: uhh, thanks?
AngryDavid 808#3214: Np
hare_ware#4880: Swapping in the old CPU didn't fix it... Maybe it's the PSU? I'm still using the original 240w sff PSU and it hasn't had the best airflow in the past year, maybe the Xeon's power draw killed it?
The Tired Technician#8073: Again its possible, but unlikely
The Tired Technician#8073: personally
The Tired Technician#8073: and this is just a whack at it, since I dont see the computer myself
The Tired Technician#8073: is that it sounds like motherboard
hare_ware#4880: I don't see why it would have died
hare_ware#4880: Unless the VRMs failed.
The Tired Technician#8073: Well obviously it didnt completely fail since you can still boot it up
The Tired Technician#8073: but maybe some small component of it failed
hare_ware#4880: Yeah, that's why I'm thinking it's the PSU, maybe one of the rails is causing some of the onboard devices (like the data controller or something) to not work right
The Tired Technician#8073: its a possibility |
The Tired Technician#8073: again I cant say for sure on anything since I dont have my hands on the computer
hare_ware#4880: I know, I'm just looking more ideas. It's finals week so I can't borrow my brother's PSU right now
The Tired Technician#8073: Finals for you too huh?
The Tired Technician#8073: jeez
The Tired Technician#8073: worst time to have computer troubles
AngryDavid 808#3214: Yeah
The Tired Technician#8073: You could always go to your high school or college and just use a computer there
The Tired Technician#8073: or ask to borrow a laptop or chromebook
hare_ware#4880: I have a laptop I use mostly for school, so it's fine. I have a VRChat avatar commission that I need to finish though... I might have to do that on the laptop too
The Tired Technician#8073: You might have to
FuckinReece#0021: wait do you make the models?
hare_ware#4880: Yeah, well... used to now that my only PC with a decent-ish GPU is dead now
hare_ware#4880: Wait, actually I take that back, there's just some things that are barely doable without a good GPU, like texturing.
Bae#4506: ps2 slim worked fine untill now sometimes audio is fucked and sometimes green lines on bottom usually artifacts when loading games is it just dying or can i fix it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/836182576020455424/sstg-D5F0ABC4-F05B-4CFE-9FCD-88435CFBF61E.mp4
Bae#4506: the worst it has gotten https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/836182795298406410/image0.jpg |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @Bae It looks like a borked display connector?
Bae#4506: yea maybe
Bae#4506: it has nothing to do with me gaming on it 5 to 7 hours a day on it????
D.D.M#8226: Ye try checking the display conector
D.D.M#8226: Both ends
D.D.M#8226: Try using a av to scart adapter
D.D.M#8226: If you are in the eu
D.D.M#8226: It worked for me when i had display issues
D.D.M#8226: If the audio is buzzing and stuff that might be one of the audio cables
Bae#4506: yea
Bae#4506: im in eu
Bae#4506: otherwise ill ditch the trash original av cable
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Replacing the AV cable will mostly likely fix your issue
Sony PS-FL77#3627: If you want to upgrade to component (if your TV allows it) you have to first change the PS2's settings otherwise it won't display properly
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Also the audio issue could theoretically be isolated by using optical if it persists but a new cable should fix that too |
Bae#4506: av to scart dosent work so ill buy a new one
D.D.M#8226: while you are at it get a composite cable instead
FuckinReece#0021: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/790102799656026133/836242531548397578/image0.jpg
FuckinReece#0021: does anybody know the source of these stupid dragon feet
Sony PS-FL77#3627: Component > Composite
D.D.M#8226: Oh oof
D.D.M#8226: Sry meant to say component
Milita_Grunt33#4669: How bad is this? The socket has two broken pins and without a CPU it won’t even try to turn on. Is sending it to have the socket replaced a good idea or does this board have more issues? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/836317530180026408/video0.mov
D.D.M#8226: Wdym broken
D.D.M#8226: Like literally riped off?
D.D.M#8226: Also mobo name?
Milita_Grunt33#4669: Here's the socket. It's an ASUS Z10PE-D16 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/836319159666737198/E9S2YZ012426_1.jpg
D.D.M#8226: Sry i cant see but are the pins completely ripped off?
Milita_Grunt33#4669: Yeah there's a little left in them but not enough to make contact or anything
D.D.M#8226: Thats certainly not good |
D.D.M#8226: What about the other socket?
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^
Lady Mipha#0611: also the not turning on without a cpu is fine
Milita_Grunt33#4669: The other socket is fine but with only it populated no start
Lady Mipha#0611: oh yeah just had a look at some videos that broken socket is the main socket
Lady Mipha#0611: basically system won't start without it
Lady Mipha#0611: get it repaired @Milita_Grunt33
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Milita_Grunt33 did you at least try to use the main socket? perhaps you got lucky and the broken pins are just for voltage
DarknessFalls229#2286: or unlucky and it wont detect memory channels, other features or the worst; not boot at all
Milita_Grunt33#4669: The socket that is damaged is the main and it just power cycles forever with a cpu installed
DarknessFalls229#2286: damn, what a shame
DarknessFalls229#2286: then yeah get the socket repaired if you really want to bother
Milita_Grunt33#4669: ASUS quoted me $416 to fix it so I'm just buying one of those $100 Chinese no name ones instead
DarknessFalls229#2286: jesus
DarknessFalls229#2286: thats a lot |
Milita_Grunt33#4669: But I have a reflow station and all of that so I'm gonna try and replace it myself because I'm throwing it away either way
Milita_Grunt33#4669: I just hope that the socket isn't the only problem with it
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah dont just throw it away
D.D.M#8226: Well good luck with it
JustinXenyx#8854: Before you try to wing anything and potentially waste money: Check if the pins are important first.
JustinXenyx#8854: If it's only a ground and a power pin missing, that should not cause the motherboard to stop booting
JustinXenyx#8854: If there are data pins missing, then you have a problem
Milita_Grunt33#4669: Attempted the repair and the first pad pulled the trace when the socket lifted. I hate every aspect of my life
D.D.M#8226: is the i5 6500 still a good option?
D.D.M#8226: i found a bundle with the cpu and mobo for abt 80 euros
D.D.M#8226: and 6 gb ram
JustinXenyx#8854: for that price, certainly
JustinXenyx#8854: Generally speaking it'll struggle, but those are limitations you would expect from a quad core chip in 2021
D.D.M#8226: i was planning to get my friend a pc
D.D.M#8226: he mostly plays fortnite |
D.D.M#8226: so i think its should do him good
D.D.M#8226: and i have spare gpu so it should handle it at 60fps+
JustinXenyx#8854: Oh lighter ESport-esque games are going to run fine on a 6500
Foxious#1859: Pah
Foxious#1859: the 3570K in the secondary system of mine runs harder games too fine
Foxious#1859: long as the gpu is good and you dont try to play the most recent AAA games on high graphics
D.D.M#8226: well since his budget is low
D.D.M#8226: and my countrys market is mostly consisted of sus rx cards
D.D.M#8226: i will get him a new rx 560
D.D.M#8226: for like
D.D.M#8226: 90 euro
D.D.M#8226: and thats how much his budget is
D.D.M#8226: only bigger game he plans to play is apex legends
D.D.M#8226: and maybe gta 5
Foxious#1859: with a 580 that thing will be good lower mid-range machine |
Foxious#1859: after you know
Foxious#1859: the mining crisis has ended
D.D.M#8226: like used prices arent really affected here
Foxious#1859: now that i have you here, i just wanna ask you a lil question
D.D.M#8226: but it aint much of a dumpster fire
D.D.M#8226: go ahead
Foxious#1859: is your pfp based on the fact that the engineers say "spy" as "Spah" (sounds like Pie)
Foxious#1859: sorry
Foxious#1859: not name
Foxious#1859: bloody hell
D.D.M#8226: uhh
D.D.M#8226: ive always
D.D.M#8226: said spie
D.D.M#8226: so ye
D.D.M#8226: spie |
Foxious#1859: he could be anyone of us, it could be you, it could be me, it could even be... Pie
D.D.M#8226: lo
D.D.M#8226: lol
Foxious#1859: you play tf2 nowadays?
D.D.M#8226: ye
D.D.M#8226: though
D.D.M#8226: ive been playing some siege lately
Foxious#1859: is nice
Foxious#1859: i just play with bots or mvm
D.D.M#8226: oh nice
Foxious#1859: i realize those 2 are almost the same thing
D.D.M#8226: ye lol
D.D.M#8226: :Hahahahaha:
D.D.M#8226: but now i mostly play in community servers
D.D.M#8226: or mvm |
Foxious#1859: x10 randomizer i can recommend
D.D.M#8226: ye i know those
D.D.M#8226: chaos
D.D.M#8226: and abt my name
D.D.M#8226: its suppossed to say
Foxious#1859: "ded medic"
D.D.M#8226: DaDiamondFoxy
D.D.M#8226: because
D.D.M#8226: i used to love fnaf
Foxious#1859: Foxy as in Foxy the pirate or just generic foxy
D.D.M#8226: fnaf
D.D.M#8226: then
Foxious#1859: oh that answers my question
D.D.M#8226: i though its too long
Foxious#1859: we need to move to #💻normal-chat💻 |
D.D.M#8226: ye
FuckinReece#0021: Anybody want to challenge my 50 dollar budget build https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/836631452157345872/image0.jpg
FuckinReece#0021: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/836631592704409610/video0.mov
Sony PS-FL77#3627: You insane bellend
FuckinReece#0021: It works really well
mi3night#2562: Oh what the
JustinXenyx#8854: I would yell at you for doing that, but i've done way worse stuff
JustinXenyx#8854: still, **do not fucking do that**
FuckinReece#0021: too late
JustinXenyx#8854: What card even is that?
FuckinReece#0021: 7870
The United States Air Force#7904: Kaboom
Racey#8574: bakoom
D.D.M#8226: Ok so the disc doesn't boot?
LolBroek#5470: Lol I may fcked the second disk my laptop Locked it self up. Because I forgot to plug my laptop into the charger |
LolBroek#5470: But nah it didn't do anything
D.D.M#8226: Bruh
LolBroek#5470: One way to find out. I quess
D.D.M#8226: Try a dvd rw
D.D.M#8226: If you have one
LolBroek#5470: Nah I don't have those
D.D.M#8226: Eh well
D.D.M#8226: If you have alot of dvds
LolBroek#5470: The imgburn one defenitily doesn't work. Mols like there is hardly anything on it
D.D.M#8226: Hmm
D.D.M#8226: Weird
LolBroek#5470: And the second one probably failed due to my laptop got Locked
D.D.M#8226: Very odd
D.D.M#8226: I thinl i know another app
D.D.M#8226: Leme try and find it |
LolBroek#5470: I still have 4 left
LolBroek#5470: Since I used 1 one for win2000 and 1 for xp home. And the for the bios 2 failed
LolBroek#5470: The 2nd CDburnerXP one just finished
D.D.M#8226: aight
LolBroek#5470: Yes it worked
D.D.M#8226: ok
D.D.M#8226: use pcsx2 bios copier
D.D.M#8226: and save to a usb
LolBroek#5470: I did that
LolBroek#5470: Copied everything needed to the bios folder in pcsx2
LolBroek#5470: And it works
LolBroek#5470: So now I have to copy my ps2 games that I want on And im golden
LolBroek#5470: Lol I just realized why the imgburn disk didn't work I forgot to push on the button to burn it.
D.D.M#8226: bruh
LolBroek#5470: I feel really stupid now |
LolBroek#5470: But anyways I'm now trying to rip my gran turismo 4 disk
D.D.M#8226: noice
Gamefreak924#5901: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/837006572952616960/image0.png
Gamefreak924#5901: Apple flip phone
Grockle#7163: Don't tempt them
zwect#1210: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/837012911880273990/20210428_141000.jpg
zwect#1210: whats the polarity for this?
zwect#1210: like which side is negative and which is positive
zwect#1210: sorry for the stupidity xd
Alcyone#2233: thick white line on pcb should be the positive side
FuckinReece#0021: Rip 7870 the fix didn’t last after all https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/837069155010215986/image0.jpg
Dogecode#7321: ☠️
Sony PS-FL77#3627: I feel like we called this
FuckinReece#0021: no it was dying before
FuckinReece#0021: and nobody called it |
FuckinReece#0021: people just said id start a fire
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/520371405192429579/837248895477874688/IMG_20210429_114621__01.jpg
(reposting here)
I do not know if this is the right channel but my screen is a fuck and this dead pixel is driving me crazy, does anyone have any recommendations for a new screen?
1080p(oor) recommendations need not apply
D.D.M#8226: whats your budget?
Deleted User#0000: three fiddy at most, preferably less than 300€
D.D.M#8226: mind if recommend you a 100 euro one?
D.D.M#8226: i have the same monitor
D.D.M#8226: and its quite nice for the price
DarknessFalls229#2286: i feel suggestions are always welcome
Deleted User#0000: send link
D.D.M#8226: leme find model
D.D.M#8226: bruh i forgot the model
D.D.M#8226: though it was a 27 inch one |
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