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axelalex2#5793: distance is pretty high
Simp#8258: 👀
Simp#8258: 😭
axelalex2#5793: i used to have distance 400 up until C2, so don't worry
Tangil#3830: You would really hate the claw grip then alion
snokbaz#2903: well, u know u have to be able put simultaneous inputs in some occasion
axelalex2#5793: there is still hope for you
Simp#8258: idk i like this very much
snokbaz#2903: wonder why didnt u adjust grip accordingly
Simp#8258: more height and it feels like my camera is floating
alion02#1973: i didn't play rocket league until like 2016-17-ish
Simp#8258: less distance and car is too close
snokbaz#2903: i mean thats fine for a casual (guy from a commercial)
alion02#1973: and i didn't need the claw grip for other games
snokbaz#2903: but u have to use separate finger for RT and RB |
alion02#1973: moreover, i didn't even know it existed until 2018
Simp#8258: i did try claw grip for a month
Simp#8258: for bo2
Simp#8258: wasnt fun
Simp#8258: never got into claw grip
snokbaz#2903: well, alion doesnt have to change grip much
Simp#8258: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/564887424019333120/unknown.png
Simp#8258: this is a thing apparently tho
Tangil#3830: Haha
alion02#1973: HAHA
snokbaz#2903: hahaha
Simp#8258: no thats no joke
ThatOtherNinja#6315: This is a gripping conversation
alion02#1973: hey that doesn't actually feel that bad
Simp#8258: some pro players play like this |
snokbaz#2903: #controller-grip-porn
alion02#1973: also, are we talking about this claw grip? https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uvU3PtAaMQw/maxresdefault.jpg
Tangil#3830: Yes
Simp#8258: https://content.jwplatform.com/previews/cXNy271o?exp=1554764880&sig=19159155725057f268f51909a65c931a
Simp#8258: look at that
alion02#1973: wait, index on abxy??
Tangil#3830: Middle on bumper, ring on trigger
Simp#8258: yes
Tangil#3830: Index on buttons
alion02#1973: oh
alion02#1973: i was talking about a half-assed claw grip then
alion02#1973: lemme find the name for it
Simp#8258: ~~COD TRICKSHOT GRIP~~
Simp#8258: anybody want to play rl in 5-10 minutes?
alion02#1973: shit, i can't find the grip that i'm looking for |
Mal#5601: Why would we play RL if we can talk about gripping controllers
Simp#8258: okay
Mal#5601: If we can get enough people to have a Voice Chat party then I'll play
alion02#1973: ok, i have no clue what to call the grip where you have index on bumper and middle on trigger then
Tangil#3830: A normal grip
Mal#5601: ^^^^^^^^^^^
alion02#1973: ok, i have no clue what to call the grip where you have index on bumper/trigger then
Tangil#3830: Also a normal grip
alion02#1973: that's useful
Mal#5601: They are all normal but yours alion 😛
Tangil#3830: Ur welcm
Kipje13#9878: id be up for some rlbot private matches
Mal#5601: If we get 1 more I'll play
Tangil#3830: Let's have a VC party at some point except we play with our controllers flipped upside down like in that image eldest sent
alion02#1973: regardless, i've found a way to hold my controller in a retarded way that allows me to have 6 fingers on without it hurting like hell |
alion02#1973: so that's useful
alion02#1973: now to break the mental block developed over the past 8 years that makes my middle fingers completely useless
Tangil#3830: I can do 8 fingers but it's really dumb
Tangil#3830: Oh wait it's just the claw grip
Tangil#3830: I usually do claw with 7
Mal#5601: I can get 10, but I don't think I would ever hit the ball with it
Tangil#3830: Who tf uses claw for RL actually
Mal#5601: What weirdo
Simp#8258: nobody
Jonas#2222: What are we discussing?
Simp#8258: ill do that reverse grip with the duke controler when i become pro
Mal#5601: Get a grip Eldest
Mal#5601: 😛
snokbaz#2903: index on bumper+trigger = normal grip (also known as advertisement grip)
snokbaz#2903: index on bumper, middle on trigger = normal gamer grip |
Tangil#3830: G a m e r
snokbaz#2903: capital G
Tangil#3830: G A M E R
Mal#5601: Thumb on trigger and bumper, rest of hands on all other buttons = Pro gamer grip
Kipje13#9878: 🎮
Simp#8258: soo
Simp#8258: am i gonna ve forever alone
Mal#5601: If one more person Will play, I'll play
Tangil#3830: Toes on triggers, nose on sticks, elbows on buttons
Kipje13#9878: doubt on X
alion02#1973: turns out my middle finger isn't completely useless, it's just that the *normal* "normal gamer grip" doesn't work for me
Mal#5601: Left nostril on A, right nostril on B and Tongue on RT
alion02#1973: instead i have to stuff my pinky next to my sticks
Simp#8258: robie was in vc and said activated
alion02#1973: and rest everything on something |
Simp#8258: 👀
snokbaz#2903: what if u put ring finger on trigger, middle on bump, index on XYBA and thumb on an analog
alion02#1973: i'm not *as* accurate with throttle/brake as i was with index fingers, but i'm good enough to dribble almost forever so probably good enough
snokbaz#2903: seems like superior grip
alion02#1973: that's the claw grip, right?
snokbaz#2903: no idea
Tangil#3830: That's the claw
alion02#1973: yeah it is
Simp#8258: why you no vc
alion02#1973: it's also useless for rocket league
Simp#8258: :reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee:
Tangil#3830: Unless you use right stick for airroll
alion02#1973: ^
Kipje13#9878: who is playing?
snokbaz#2903: that feeling when i was memeing but it was too real |
Tangil#3830: It's good for shooters
snokbaz#2903: hahahahaha
snokbaz#2903: funny ))
snokbaz#2903: playing shooters on gamepad
snokbaz#2903: xD
Simp#8258: guys im lonely
Simp#8258: i dont want to turn into jonas
alion02#1973: shooters on controller FeelsPlebMan
Tangil#3830: @snokbaz you don't really have much of a choice to use a keyboard when over at a friend's house in a couch party
alion02#1973: ***MULTIPLE KEYBOARDS!!!***
snokbaz#2903: well, in a couch party u dont actually care about pro aim
Simp#8258: GUYS IHAVE A FUKIN PERFORMANCE JUST FOR ME
snokbaz#2903: so no point in claw grip
Simp#8258: ITS SO GOOD
snokbaz#2903: just play like advertisement guy |
snokbaz#2903: also lean when u shoot
Simp#8258: @Tangil
Simp#8258: you gotta hear this
Tangil#3830: Might as well play properly @snokbaz
Tangil#3830: @Simp ok
alion02#1973: @snokbaz i feel personally attacked
Simp#8258: just quick join
Tangil#3830: No I'm out
Simp#8258: man you missing out
alion02#1973: in both ways
Simp#8258: come listen in for a sec
Tangil#3830: What is this
Simp#8258: beauty
Simp#8258: idk it started wiht baby from justin bieber
Simp#8258: then thomas joined in |
Simp#8258: now its i dont have a fkn clue
◱ Mark#0001: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/564892934214778891/unknown.png
snokbaz#2903: 10 hour bruh sound
snokbaz#2903: hmm
◱ Mark#0001: *dies*
Simp#8258: um
snokbaz#2903: sorry too hardcore for me
Simp#8258: so anyone up for 2s or 3s
Simp#8258: or 4s? >:D
snokbaz#2903: i suggested duoing for a ranked
snokbaz#2903: but u ignored me (
Simp#8258: i was doing home wurk
snokbaz#2903: in rocket league (((((
Simp#8258: oh vc?
Mal#5601: @Kipje13 quick if we join the vc, we can peer pressure them into doing private matches |
Kipje13#9878: okay, lets go
snokbaz#2903: @twobackfromtheend @jeroen11dijk @Eastvillage
snokbaz#2903: @alion02
Mal#5601: @Jonas
Mal#5601: Private matches?
Jonas#2222: Ok but I'll have to go soon
jeroen11dijk#1178: @Tangil
jeroen11dijk#1178: @Skyborg
jeroen11dijk#1178: @Edwin.
Edwin.#7531: Why did I get tagged 🤔
jeroen11dijk#1178: join VC
alion02#1973: ain't happening
Mal#5601: Private matches
Edwin.#7531: Im sorry but I can't join the party 😦 School gotta go first
alion02#1973: ^ |
r0bbi3#0269: i actually use a guitar hero drum set as a controller
Mal#5601: You should play with us robbie
r0bbi3#0269: the donkey kong bongo got old, had* to switch it up
Mal#5601: We need team gb
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3 join VC
Mal#5601: ^^^^
Mal#5601: @r0bbi3
Kipje13#9878: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3 klootzak
twobackfromtheend#1471: uh i'll join after i finish making my milkshake
Simp#8258: @r0bbi3
twobackfromtheend#1471: NOT A EUPHEMISM
jeroen11dijk#1178: you arent invited
twobackfromtheend#1471: what
jeroen11dijk#1178: @Sciguymjm |
Jonas#2222: @Sciguymjm
Mal#5601: @Sciguymjm
Mal#5601: Not sure why he was pinged, but I wanna join in
Tangil#3830: @Mal
Tangil#3830: Oh jeez that's a lot of people in vc
jeroen11dijk#1178: we need an eight for who is the mafia
Skyborg#0894: wait, sounds fucked
r0bbi3#0269: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/564903872058097677/unknown.png
jeroen11dijk#1178: @Skyborg can you DM someone
Simp#8258: um
snokbaz#2903: hahaha
Skyborg#0894: yes
Kipje13#9878: not robbie please
r0bbi3#0269: why is it so hard to casually throw
Skyborg#0894: why"? XD |
0x57696c6c#3433: Am I missing out on a great time by going to sleep at a reasonable hour?
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3 why is it so hard to remember a binary value
0x57696c6c#3433: What’s going on in vc
r0bbi3#0269: i knew i was mafia for the game
r0bbi3#0269: silly
jeroen11dijk#1178: @Skyborg have you dmed the mafia?
r0bbi3#0269: i asked Skyborg that before the game
Skyborg#0894: i did, sorry for not announcing
Eastvillage#2628: Thanks
Skyborg#0894: np 😃
Skyborg#0894: i will leave now so i cant choose the next one. or even better. i will choose now the one for next game XD
Skyborg#0894: just diud
0x57696c6c#3433: Good night all 👋
Jonas#2222: Night
Jonas#2222: I wish I could play along, but I can't talk right now so that ruins the purpose |
Jonas#2222: Oh you're full anyway
Simp#8258: @Skyborg message new mafia ty
Skyborg#0894: Done
Eastvillage#2628: @Skyborg dm a jester too
Skyborg#0894: done, whatever that is
jeroen11dijk#1178: @Skyborg did you ping 2 mafias?
Skyborg#0894: i pinged a mafia for the game after this one
jeroen11dijk#1178: we are switching game mode
snokbaz#2903: 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
jeroen11dijk#1178: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/564916775725301761/unknown.png
jeroen11dijk#1178: @Skyborg you sitll here?
Skyborg#0894: yes
jeroen11dijk#1178: can you ping a jester and mafia again
Eastvillage#2628: Wanna ping a Mafia and Jester again please
Skyborg#0894: done |
jeroen11dijk#1178: @Skyborg ping people again please
axelalex2#5793: axelalex2 / 6
Eastvillage / 1
Eldest / 0
jeroen / 0
Kipje / 6
robbie / 0
snokbaz / -1
twoback / 2
Skyborg#0894: done
Parzival#1467: what the heck is going on in vc
Parzival#1467: just mafia?
snokbaz#2903: y
jeroen11dijk#1178: @Skyborg we need more pings
Skyborg#0894: done |
r0bbi3#0269: 😨
r0bbi3#0269: 🕵
axelalex2#5793: 😨
r0bbi3#0269: 🔪
r0bbi3#0269: 🤡
r0bbi3#0269: @Skyborg DMs!
snokbaz#2903: i did
Skyborg#0894: donw
r0bbi3#0269: @Skyborg do it again
r0bbi3#0269: i dare ya
Skyborg#0894: bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Skyborg#0894: done
r0bbi3#0269: 👍
jeroen11dijk#1178: @Skyborg pings please
Skyborg#0894: last time |
Skyborg#0894: done
jeroen11dijk#1178: https://gfycat.com/ShrillElegantKakarikis
Kipje13#9878: @jeroen11dijk send invite
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3 klootzak decide roles please
Skyborg#0894: @r0bbi3
Skyborg#0894: @r0bbi3
Skyborg#0894: @r0bbi3
Skyborg#0894: @r0bbi3
Skyborg#0894: @r0bbi3
Skyborg#0894: @r0bbi3
Skyborg#0894: @r0bbi3
Skyborg#0894: @r0bbi3
Skyborg#0894: @r0bbi3 @r0bbi3
Skyborg#0894: welcome
Skyborg#0894: assign roles |
Skyborg#0894: 😃
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3 @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
snokbaz#2903: https://epicmafia.com/
snokbaz#2903: 5 games for a new account, or u can make 10 minute mail for unlimited games
jeroen11dijk#1178: @dtracers could you help us 😃
Simp#8258: https://epicmafia.com/game/6945887
snokbaz#2903: https://10minutemail.net/?lang=en
r0bbi3#0269: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/564938285626163235/unknown.png
r0bbi3#0269: huh |
r0bbi3#0269: do you still need roles?
snokbaz#2903: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/564938442245668945/unknown.png
snokbaz#2903: in a search bar
Skyborg#0894: no 😦
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3 yes
r0bbi3#0269: im getting mixed signals
Skyborg#0894: @r0bbi3 do it again XD
r0bbi3#0269: alright
Kipje13#9878: yes, please
r0bbi3#0269: sent
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3 again
Kipje13#9878: 🇧 🇦 🇳 🇮 🇲 🇪
Simp#8258: @r0bbi3
Simp#8258: @r0bbi3
Simp#8258: @r0bbi3 |
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3 please
snokbaz#2903: @RLBot roles pls
Simp#8258: https://epicmafia.com/game/6945909
r0bbi3#0269: oh
Simp#8258: https://epicmafia.com/game/6945917
r0bbi3#0269: do you need it or not
jeroen11dijk#1178: yes @r0bbi3
r0bbi3#0269: i dont have notif sounds for some reason
Skyborg#0894: yes
jeroen11dijk#1178: we need you
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3 you there
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3 klootzak
r0bbi3#0269: sent
Kipje13#9878: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: klootzak |
r0bbi3#0269: im here this time
r0bbi3#0269: dw
Simp#8258: done?
jeroen11dijk#1178: done?
Skyborg#0894: done?
axelalex2#5793: done?
r0bbi3#0269: yes
snokbaz#2903: done?
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
Skyborg#0894: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3 |
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
Kipje13#9878: @klootzak
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3 you need to give ||alex|| a role this time though
jeroen11dijk#1178: but dont tell anyone
Simp#8258: after nda
Simp#8258: 😉
r0bbi3#0269: alright
r0bbi3#0269: sent |
Skyborg#0894: nice
jeroen11dijk#1178: @Kipje13
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
axelalex2#5793: aa2 / 6
Eldest / -2
jeroen / 0
kipje / 2
skyborg / 1
snokbaz / 3
twoback / 1
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
Simp#8258: @r0bbi3
Simp#8258: @r0bbi3 |
Simp#8258: @r0bbi3 @r0bbi3
Simp#8258: @r0bbi3
Simp#8258: @r0bbi3
Simp#8258: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
jeroen11dijk#1178: @r0bbi3
Kipje13#9878: he is offline
Kipje13#9878: dont think he will be here anymore
Simp#8258: c+ranks iameld3st |
Skyborg#0894: c+ranks skyborgff
Kipje13#9878: c+ranks kipje13
calculated.gg#2787:
jeroen11dijk#1178: F
jeroen11dijk#1178: un F
snokbaz#2903: c+ranks snokbaz
Skyborg#0894: c+ranks skyborgff
calculated.gg#2787:
Kipje13#9878: c+ranks kipje13
calculated.gg#2787:
calculated.gg#2787:
r0bbi3#0269: hello
r0bbi3#0269: yes
calculated.gg#2787:
r0bbi3#0269: am i still needed for one? |
calculated.gg#2787:
snokbaz#2903: just send 2 ppl roles r0bbi3
r0bbi3#0269: alright
snokbaz#2903: gonna watch epic 1v1 now
r0bbi3#0269: done
r0bbi3#0269: that was my last one btw
snokbaz#2903: yeah, ours as well
snokbaz#2903: thanks
r0bbi3#0269: 👍
snokbaz#2903: @jeroen11dijk 2,351 hrs on record
snokbaz#2903: wtf
snokbaz#2903: not even 100% achievements
jeroen11dijk#1178: whats the issue
jeroen11dijk#1178: yeah the last one is blocked or something
snokbaz#2903: Heartbreaker |
Win a game against All-Star Bots with the Hearts Decal equipped
jeroen11dijk#1178: it wont unlock for me
snokbaz#2903: can't win vs a bot
snokbaz#2903: but still, expected 1.5k hours max
snokbaz#2903: not 2.5k
jeroen11dijk#1178: why?
snokbaz#2903: aren't u suppose to be GC after 2.5
snokbaz#2903: "suppose"
axelalex2#5793: 2 years ago, you were supposed to be GC with 1k hours, so that number always changes
axelalex2#5793: and it's very much personal how far up you can and will go
snokbaz#2903: yeah, ignore my comment about GC
snokbaz#2903: just didnt expect that much hours , no why
jeroen11dijk#1178: it also depends on where you focus lies
jeroen11dijk#1178: I spend most of my time plating 1s
snokbaz#2903: i had no answer and said smth stupid |
snokbaz#2903: 😉
jeroen11dijk#1178: while I still cant play 3s at all
axelalex2#5793: i can teach you :P
Parzival#1467: zzz https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/564970395938193408/20190408202929_1.jpg
Parzival#1467: played him the game before, won like 12-4
Parzival#1467: he complained i was doing "boring normal shots"
Parzival#1467: 1s is hella toxic or im just having bad luck
axelalex2#5793: I played a few 1s games yesterday, people were quite nice, one exception only, who critizised my kickoffs right after i took the first one. I know they are bad for 1s, because i learned them more for the team modes. I ended up scoring 4 kickoff goals, resulting in 5-2 total. Nice Karma.
Parzival#1467: that pretty funny
Parzival#1467: i dont change my kickoffs much for 1s, probably because im bad
Parzival#1467: i just played 8 of my 1s placements and half of them featured toxic opponents...
ThatOtherNinja#6315: Yeah ranked 1s tends to be on the toxic side, however I find that casual 1s is super chill
Simp#8258: idk about you guys but im always positive or try to be
Jonas#2222: Me too
Jonas#2222: I never try to make the opponent mad |
alion02#1973: comp 2s eu diamond anyone?
snokbaz#2903: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565150850427912193/unknown.png
snokbaz#2903: wtf is this -63
snokbaz#2903: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565154818734292993/unknown.png
snokbaz#2903: ez4sarah
snokbaz#2903: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565175225545785345/unknown.png
Tangil#3830: nice!
snokbaz#2903: positive mental attitude kept dream alive
snokbaz#2903: 610 to 690 pretty much on a winstreak (only 1 defeat)
snokbaz#2903: first game for a promotion when to overtime, lost after 4 min
snokbaz#2903: win next, matched with worst plats ever vs best plats ever
snokbaz#2903: enemy team had such a good passing play (for that rank)
snokbaz#2903: anyway bounced back in a next game
snokbaz#2903: which started pretty poorly, 1 guy afked for a first 15 sec, cut rotations after
snokbaz#2903: didnt save relatively easy shot... thought its gg |
snokbaz#2903: kept playing and things start clicking
snokbaz#2903: poor guy redeemed himself, everyone stepped up
snokbaz#2903: feelsgood
snokbaz#2903: my highlight from a last game
snokbaz#2903: https://www.gifyourgame.com/RarestNoticedPearl
Simp#8258: dont be toxic people will appriciate you
snokbaz#2903: WOW
Simp#8258: im still so happy for tha russian guy i played with
Simp#8258: he was pretty good
Simp#8258: he could go high plat if he had better rotation
Simp#8258: didnt understand english almost
snokbaz#2903: well, i could go high plat if i had better rotation
Simp#8258: but was great
Simp#8258: even against smurfs
Simp#8258: we won |
Simp#8258: amazing shit
Simp#8258: 👌
axelalex2#5793: @snokbaz if you want to get better at rotations there are really good tutorials on youtube, and as i usually find the video format of SunlessKhan very good and descriptive, i'll link these for you. He is not a GC himself, and there are better coaches out there, still he made it very informative by graphical examples.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THcMLWOEc_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiBzXZ4pNH4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nXMNua2ZXE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEhxTfHYeCs
Simp#8258: 1s no rotation
Simp#8258: 2s one offence one defense... good spacing
jeroen11dijk#1178: We yes but actually no
Simp#8258: 3s you can split multiple ways
Simp#8258: should be evenly spread out
Simp#8258: try to avoid all team mates on one side of map in a line
Simp#8258: thats no good
Simp#8258: noom rotations |
Simp#8258: then for changing out you need to get feel for it
Simp#8258: there isnt a set rule really
snokbaz#2903: @axelalex2 my point was that its easy to be * input high rank * if only u were better at * insert any skill *
axelalex2#5793: it sounded very specific ^^
Tangil#3830: from my experience, after plat it's more about speed than rotations anyway, because everyone knows how to rotate
snokbaz#2903: well, u arent going from silver to high plat(= basically diamond) just by "learning better rotation"
Tangil#3830: i kinda did
Tangil#3830: it was also about mechanics but rotations are a big part of it
jeroen11dijk#1178: Nah you got lucky
axelalex2#5793: *[...] because everyone knows how to rotate*
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
jeroen11dijk#1178: X
Tangil#3830: MSQCAJA
snokbaz#2903: i just can't imagine silver that has high plat mechanics but shit rotation
snokbaz#2903: if u r high plat good, u should be in gold just buy winning more 50/50 |
snokbaz#2903: or having high goal/shot %
jeroen11dijk#1178: Depends on the mechanic
jeroen11dijk#1178: If you just train shooting you will go up quickly
snokbaz#2903: i dont know exact numbers, but lets say avrg silver speed is 500 units
snokbaz#2903: than avrg high plat speed should be 800 or smth
snokbaz#2903: this numbers are made up just to show the difference
snokbaz#2903: so u just gonna win more games because u r simply faster to the ball
snokbaz#2903: and eventually u will end up in a gold
snokbaz#2903: i cant see going from mid-high gold to high plat by fixing rotation
snokbaz#2903: but if someone is stuck in silver, person doesnt have high plat mechanics
snokbaz#2903: but im just nitpicking. i understand that eldest meant just above avrg mechanical lvl
axelalex2#5793: if you are not sure what you should be practicing next, you can ask better players to analyze a typical game of yours and point out your biggest mistakes you make
snokbaz#2903: well, thanks for a suggestion but we were talking about random guy from a mm
snokbaz#2903: as for myself, i have a listen of mechanical skills i need to improve ( basically every aspect of a game)
snokbaz#2903: and as for rotation, for now i don't care about that much |
Tangil#3830: 🤔
snokbaz#2903: i try to stick to basic 1 - 2 - 3, but sometimes it's hard coz teammates cut each other off
Tangil#3830: your mechanics are good enough
snokbaz#2903: nope
snokbaz#2903: i should've won vs east in 1v1
snokbaz#2903: but i fucking missed open net
snokbaz#2903: xD
snokbaz#2903: i think i figured out why i don't flip sometimes
Kipje13#9878: nobody in plat has good rotations
snokbaz#2903: i pull analog and press jump at a same time, movement input comes slightly delayed
snokbaz#2903: so i jump then turn
snokbaz#2903: but besides that, i miss aerials
snokbaz#2903: both offensive shots and saves
snokbaz#2903: my kickoff sucks
snokbaz#2903: i know the theory behind powershots but rarely do that in practice |
snokbaz#2903: also no ground dribble
snokbaz#2903: so my mechanics are far from being good
Simp#8258: redox thats expected
axelalex2#5793: it's not about mechanics being good, it's about mechanics being good enough to progress your ranks
Simp#8258: plat is mainly getting good grip on mechanics and strategy
Simp#8258: after plat its consistency and speed
axelalex2#5793: noone expects you to be a star dribbler
Simp#8258: while you speed up your consistency takes a hit
snokbaz#2903: i can't do a basic dribble
Simp#8258: you could get to diamond
Simp#8258: if your other things are good
Tangil#3830: neither can i snokbaz
Simp#8258: if you play smart you get rank up
axelalex2#5793: there are times i am a god dribbler, there are times i fail to flick a ball 5 times in a row, it's all about the balance of your game
Simp#8258: i believe theres a missinfotmation that getting higher rank is mechanics |
snokbaz#2903: i can't dribble in a straight line
Simp#8258: and mainly mechanics
Simp#8258: and
Simp#8258: ?
Simp#8258: wha does not dribbling do
snokbaz#2903: i can't attack properly in 1v1 even if i have ball possession
axelalex2#5793: in higher ranks you have rarely time to do things anyways, so the basics have to be as good as possible
snokbaz#2903: im silver in 1v1, its common to see opponent defending in net while im in middle with a ball and 100% boost
snokbaz#2903: without dribble i have to roll a ball on the wall and do smth
snokbaz#2903: but i suck at wallplay
axelalex2#5793: hearing what you all supposedly suck at, i again suggest you do send a replay to someone more experienced and higher ranked player, so he can really tell you what you need to improve on
axelalex2#5793: ofc, compared to all players you played yesterday against in our private session, you suck, but the differences to similar ranked players should matter
axelalex2#5793: well, maybe except @Skyborg :^)
snokbaz#2903: well, but im goal is to reach diamond+
Skyborg#0894: what do you mean? should i not send a replay? or im lost for being saved? XD |
Skyborg#0894: im bad beyond repair XD
snokbaz#2903: so as u can see im inferior to every of a high ranked players in this group
snokbaz#2903: and it wasnt about rotations
axelalex2#5793: everyone is repairable
Tangil#3830: your goal may be to reach diamond+ but you need to cover your current rank first
snokbaz#2903: well, not necessary
snokbaz#2903: in theory i can just grind free play/custom maps and training pack for a month
snokbaz#2903: and get to diamond in 1 winstreak
Simp#8258: not good idea
axelalex2#5793: take small steps
axelalex2#5793: as a baby you don't start to run either
Simp#8258: you need the interaction with players
snokbaz#2903: wel, i mean in term of mechanical aspect
snokbaz#2903: will still need to adjust for a teamplay difference
Simp#8258: sure but dont do only that |
Simp#8258: if you just practice mechanics your game sense will suck
axelalex2#5793: which i'm not sure is really the problem without seeing your playstyle in action
Simp#8258: youll maybe climb at first but then fail again
Simp#8258: be sad
Simp#8258: ragequit rl
axelalex2#5793: i'm sometimes close to GC, but still fall back to C2, since i adjust my playstyle to fix my newest problems, it's always up and down for me
Kipje13#9878: and we didnt get to our level in one day
Kipje13#9878: i have 1800 hours
Tangil#3830: >in theory i can just grind free play/custom maps and training pack for a month and get to diamond in 1 winstreak
that's never going to happen ever
Kipje13#9878: yeah, eventually you will hit a point where your mechanics cant carry you further
Simp#8258: kip
snokbaz#2903: well, 1 win streak is an extreme example
Simp#8258: you make me sad
Simp#8258: with my 500 hours |
Simp#8258: 🙃
Tangil#3830: snokbaz it took me like 570 hours to reach diamond 3 so chill with rushing to diamond, it's going to take you a lot of time
Simp#8258: :cough:
snokbaz#2903: well 570 isnt that bad lol
Simp#8258: 🔪
snokbaz#2903: only ~250more hours to go
Tangil#3830: even if it's not bad it's a long time
Simp#8258: redox
axelalex2#5793: the later you got the same playtime numbers, the harder the same ranks are going to be achieved
snokbaz#2903: i never said that i'll get to diamond in a week
axelalex2#5793: so it's more than 570h now
Tangil#3830: wdym alex
bah#2368: @axelalex2 I literally ran before walking as a baby lol
axelalex2#5793: sick human being
Simp#8258: axel please say im not hopeless |
Kipje13#9878: yeah, I was champ back when I had 500 hours
axelalex2#5793: you are not
Kipje13#9878: but champ back then wouldnt even be diamond now probably
Simp#8258: huha
Tangil#3830: SMH rank hour deflation 😤
axelalex2#5793: yeah, RLCS Season 1 was about Mid Diamond today, i could probably challenge RLCS Season 3 / RLCS Season 4 players
Simp#8258: soo
bah#2368: Thats the nature of games
Simp#8258: time to drop school
Simp#8258: get 5 coaches
bah#2368: If the skill ceiling leaves room for improvement, people will keep pushing their skills @ the tip
Simp#8258: get pro
bah#2368: *top
Simp#8258: :smart:
Kipje13#9878: its not as bad as it used to be, if a pro player played 1k extra hours back in season 1, he would become significantly better, if he would do the same now, you wouldnt really notice a difference in skill |
Tangil#3830: the game is better if you don't focus on ranks so much
Tangil#3830: just take your mind off ranks
axelalex2#5793: exponential skill developments
Kipje13#9878: eventually you reach a skill so high that you wont see a lot of results even from playing many hours
snokbaz#2903: most likely i'll take a break from 3v3 , dont think i'll get more than 50 mmr before deranking
snokbaz#2903: but will share a replay if get interesting game
Tangil#3830: don't send an interesting game
Tangil#3830: send a normal game
snokbaz#2903: i can figure out my mistakes in a normal game
axelalex2#5793: optimally a game you lost, and you don't know why, but more experienced players will find your mistakes in every replay
snokbaz#2903: ^ thats what i mean by interesting
snokbaz#2903: but to be fair, im at a level where i can spot my mistakes, just need to watch a replay
axelalex2#5793: you sure?
snokbaz#2903: kinda
Tangil#3830: you sure? |
axelalex2#5793: kinda? so no
snokbaz#2903: most likely i'll spot a mistake in a given situation
snokbaz#2903: but i miss a key point that led to that situation
snokbaz#2903: or i wouldn't know a different approach
snokbaz#2903: for example, "oh i missed the ball during challenge and enemy scored" instead of "i should've shadow defended this"
Tangil#3830: so you do need someone better than you to analyse
snokbaz#2903: also i slightly improved my gameplay after 1 anomaly in a calg.gg stat
snokbaz#2903: my corner presence was too the limit while other 3 guys had avrg stat
snokbaz#2903: thought stat was bugged or smth
snokbaz#2903: watched replay and indeed
snokbaz#2903: i went to a corner x3 more times that a second highest guy
snokbaz#2903: although i kinda can justify my actions (at least for my current abilities) except 1 mistake
snokbaz#2903: so i guess i'll play 3v3 till i plateau/derank and will post replays when i get lost in a game
snokbaz#2903: then will switch to 2v2
axelalex2#5793: all game modes have differences and similarities you need to cover in your game play, so it really depends in which mode you want to improve |
snokbaz#2903: well, im at a point where there is no need to specialize
axelalex2#5793: i specialized on team modes since i started playing the game, without noticing for so long
snokbaz#2903: i plateau in 3v3 -> move to 2v2 and 1v1 (lower elo game) so i can get comfortable with a basic mechanics
snokbaz#2903: im scared to play 1v1, still on a winning record in 2v2
axelalex2#5793: i just don't enjoy 1v1 that much, even when winning, which is why i play 2s and 3s more and are far better at it than in 1s
snokbaz#2903: well, like i said before i started playing ranked in late January / early feb
snokbaz#2903: placed high gold in last season, got to plat in few days, immediately deranked back to gold while being bronze in 1v1
snokbaz#2903: there shouldn't be such a huge gap in a ranking
snokbaz#2903: i had understanding of a basic rotation but 1v1 showed how bad i really am individually
snokbaz#2903: so for now i try to push every mod so i my skills is somewhat equally distributed
snokbaz#2903: i think eventually 2v2 will be my main mode
snokbaz#2903: but for now i try to play all 4 (occasional chaos with friends)
axelalex2#5793: equal ranks don't mean skills are equally distributed, 1s is in general less played than the other game modes, which is why ranks are harder to climb in the first place
snokbaz#2903: but still i shouldn't * be plat in 1 mode and legit bronze in another
snokbaz#2903: playing different modes helps to get a better picture of players abilities |
snokbaz#2903: for example hoops and dropshot shows how shit my aerial play is
Tangil#3830: it's completely normal to be way worse in 1s than other modes
snokbaz#2903: it's normal but doesn't mean u have to completely ignore it
snokbaz#2903: ones shows u importance of a kickoff
snokbaz#2903: basically u can win or lose game just by a kickoffs
snokbaz#2903: generally speaking its not so crucial in 3v3, but will help ranking up in 2v2
snokbaz#2903: also by improving kickoff, u improve car control
snokbaz#2903: faster and more precise flips
Simp#8258: https://puu.sh/Dcgjk/ca345e0772.jpg
Simp#8258: wtf just happened
Marivahlio#3599: @snokbaz is right. While 2s and 3s are more fun to play. You cant ignore 1s.
snokbaz#2903: eldest playmaker Pog
Marivahlio#3599: Unpopular opinion: i like 1s more than the other gamemodes, why? Because in 1s it's all your fault. Every mistake you make will be backfired and often results in a goal, but that counts for your oponnent as well. Playing 1s and -->ANALYZING YOUR REPLAY<-- can really imrpve your gamesense, car control and discission making
Marivahlio#3599: I mean, im C1 in 1s and C3 in 2s so still a way ahead
snokbaz#2903: agree with everything besides "i like 1s more then other gamemodes" |
snokbaz#2903: i just hate when i lose in 1v1
snokbaz#2903: xD
Marivahlio#3599: :p totally understandable. I reached champ3 in 2s yesterday so that means i'll get GC this evening right... right?
snokbaz#2903: right
Marivahlio#3599: Cool
snokbaz#2903: when i joined rlbot discord i expected shit players with an amazings bots
snokbaz#2903: in really we have shit bots amazing players
snokbaz#2903: xD
Marivahlio#3599: That's surprisingly accurate
Marivahlio#3599: What rank are you?
snokbaz#2903: just hit plat in 3v3, at gold barrier in 2v2 ( 500 mmr), silver in 1v1
Marivahlio#3599: You'll get there, plat ain't bad!
snokbaz#2903: i dont think im good enough for mid plat
Marivahlio#3599: Yet*
snokbaz#2903: highest i got was 740 mmr (40 above plat base lvl) but lost 140 points in few days |
snokbaz#2903: was playing on autopilot, kinda surprised that fell that hard but not salty
snokbaz#2903: not good enough atm to climb higher
Marivahlio#3599: I know the feel. It hurts and can be demotivating at first, but remember that you've reached it before and WILL reach it again.
Marivahlio#3599: Practice makes perfect
snokbaz#2903: i mean i reached plat 3 times
snokbaz#2903: so in gold i have 0 stress coz i know i'll get to plat if i tryhard
snokbaz#2903: unless it was yesterday
snokbaz#2903: 4 ragequits in a row
snokbaz#2903: not by me , but a teammates *
snokbaz#2903: so yeah, gonna make a push to see where i end up and will switch focus on 2v2 and 1v1
Marivahlio#3599: Teammates suck indeed. *cough* play 1s instead *cough*
Marivahlio#3599: Oh boi the rocket pass 3 items are announced :DDD
snokbaz#2903: i think i peaked for 1v1 atm
Marivahlio#3599: April 17th
Mal#5601: They look cool# |
snokbaz#2903: i still can grind it by playing alot , but i dont feel comfortable to reliably win ones untill i learn basic dribble
Mal#5601: Celestial 2 wheels look so cool in rocket pass 3
snokbaz#2903: new car looks nice
snokbaz#2903: better than artemis
snokbaz#2903: love ink wash (probably banner) for lvl63
snokbaz#2903: helicopter engine sound
Marivahlio#3599: Definetely
Marivahlio#3599: You play on pc right snokbaz?
snokbaz#2903: yes
Marivahlio#3599: Have you tried the workshop map "dribbling challenge #2"?
snokbaz#2903: fail first lvl
Marivahlio#3599: Which means u know you'll have to learn dribbles
Marivahlio#3599: Quick storytime
Mal#5601: Ooh a story 😄
Marivahlio#3599: About 2 months ago i couldnt dribble... at all. I downloaded the map, played it for 20 minutes everyday. Within a week I made it to level 9 (wow jeez so good). Fast forward to last week. I beat the map in 50 minutes (one hell of a trip) |
Marivahlio#3599: It took long but defi etely worth it
Marivahlio#3599: It might not seen to work, or its suuuuper frustrating but everything there is to learn in rl is perfected by practice
Marivahlio#3599: My point is if rl means something to you (or not) and you want to get better, hop into freeplay and practice whatever you want for 10+ minutes a day
snokbaz#2903: the thing is, in jump maps i at least complete more levels with each try
snokbaz#2903: but nothing changes when i dribble
snokbaz#2903: same constant failures, so depressing
Marivahlio#3599: And thats probably because you're making mistakes you don't see yourself. If you want I can help you
Marivahlio#3599: Dont expect top-notch coaching but at least its something
Mal#5601: See @Tangil You should ask for coaching rather than for me to boost ya 😛
Tangil#3830: haha
Mal#5601: Y'know redox we gotta do the podcast soon 😛
Marivahlio#3599: You can always ask :) idk how many people are willing to help for free but i dont mind
Simp#8258: https://www.gifyourgame.com/PassantCrackingRyu
Simp#8258: me sad
Simp#8258: me tried |
Marivahlio#3599: Great pass!
snokbaz#2903: @Marivahlio thanks for an offer, for now i just need to try really slow approach
snokbaz#2903: like tap gas once and was a sec before i gas again
snokbaz#2903: it will be mentally painful but need to try
Marivahlio#3599: Perfectly fine. But don't hesitate to ask for tips ;)
snokbaz#2903: sure, thanks )
Mal#5601: Hold up, there are people being nice instead of salty in #human-rl is that even legal?
Tangil#3830: people have always been non toxic here
Marivahlio#3599: I'm sorry 😡 😡
Mal#5601: Idk
Mal#5601: I see a lot of toxic things
Tangil#3830: well maybe recently not
axelalex2#5793: @Tangil f||lick|| off
Mal#5601: Not the people sending messages, the images
Tangil#3830: @axelalex2 oh sh||oo||t |
Marivahlio#3599: Ah p||as||s
Marivahlio#3599: Oh btw I only notice messages with @Marivahlio .
snokbaz#2903: surprised u replied in a first place
snokbaz#2903: didn't see u once in this chat xD
jeroen11dijk#1178: https://www.gifyourgame.com/RestfulWardedGutsco
jeroen11dijk#1178: Jeroen and a good clip
jeroen11dijk#1178: Jeroen and a pass
jeroen11dijk#1178: https://www.gifyourgame.com/RegalTermlessDrkadowaki
jeroen11dijk#1178: but to top it all
jeroen11dijk#1178: Jeroen scoring a decent goal to win in OT
snokbaz#2903: not impressed
snokbaz#2903: still waiting for a gif where u score an open net
jeroen11dijk#1178: the day that happens I will reach champ
Marivahlio#3599: @snokbaz lol true, I was travelling home by bus and was bored so I decided to take peak in this chat :p
Marivahlio#3599: and now it's time to warm up |
Mal#5601: Anyone wanna play some 2s?
Parzival#1467: @Marivahlio what rank were you when you just started practicing dribbling?
Parzival#1467: and do you think you play at a higher rank's skill now that you are better at dribbling?
alion02#1973: @Mal still up?
Mal#5601: Nah, sorry, playing Minecraft with some friends now, sorry
Marivahlio#3599: @Parzival i dont remembewr but i think it was around plat3/dia1
snokbaz#2903: watching random Platinum 2v2 Gameplay Analysis on yt and i see no difference from my silver games
Parzival#1467: that makes sense (in response to Marivahlio)
Parzival#1467: @snokbaz same playlist?
Parzival#1467: understanding the difference between silver and plat might help you (not that i know what it is)
snokbaz#2903: yeah, my silver 2v2 games are almost identical to a replay on yt
Parzival#1467: i dont really see how thats possible
snokbaz#2903: i cant spot any good/different/new play in yt
snokbaz#2903: guy didnt even flip for a kickoff
snokbaz#2903: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p21V6_VfeLk |
snokbaz#2903: check this urself
snokbaz#2903: does it look like a normal highish lvl game for u?
Parzival#1467: well tbh i dont really know how silver play looks, but i'll watch that in a minute
Kipje13#9878: you should watch that sunlesskhan video where a plat player thinks a champ 2 level replay is about the same as his games
Mal#5601: That was a great video
snokbaz#2903: will take a look in a few minutes
Mal#5601: When he said that I thought, "God that must mean I am Grand Grand champ then"
snokbaz#2903: so in a plat game another red guy does few ceiling shots , but main guy plays like a silver
Mal#5601: He must be like redox
Mal#5601: Carried
Mal#5601: Oh god, redox just came to life
snokbaz#2903: the only thing that may be different is speed (im watching at x1.5 speed so cant really tell) but even then it would be like 50 km/h vs 55 km/h
snokbaz#2903: not a big increase
snokbaz#2903: and im not actually sure if there is any speed difference, but there should be a reason this guy is in plat
Mal#5601: Can you send some of your replays? I wanna compare you to the vid plox |
Parzival#1467: ^
Tangil#3830: Yes please send a replay
Tangil#3830: Doesn't have to be a good or bad game, just the most recent one or something
Mal#5601: We love nomming on replays
Tangil#3830: Because there's no way you're a plat stuck in silver
snokbaz#2903: last (overtime) goal was a good one, not sure how lucky was it though
Mal#5601: Redox, you are the opposite, you are a plat stuck near champ
Mal#5601: 😛
Parzival#1467: who here is plat? we need a 1v1
Parzival#1467: also who wants to play with me and my bronze gf in like 5 minutes?
Simp#8258: ngl i played 1 game against diamonds
Simp#8258: and they were winning
Simp#8258: then became toxic towards each other
snokbaz#2903: do u remember khan's video title about plat thinking he is a champ ?
Simp#8258: we won 13-3 |
Simp#8258: 👀
Mal#5601: 👀
Tangil#3830: 👀
Tangil#3830: Diamonds are shit
Mal#5601: Ikr
Simp#8258: redox you shit
Simp#8258: i mean
Tangil#3830: Yea
snokbaz#2903: Can platinum players beat champs? What diamond/plat vs champ looks like
snokbaz#2903: thats the video?
Simp#8258: johnny boi does that
Tangil#3830: @snokbaz send a replay
Simp#8258: do on youtube johnny boi plat vs champ
snokbaz#2903: @Tangil find me khan's video where plat thinks there is no difference between him and a champ according to a replay
Simp#8258: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565239545302614078/unknown.png |
Simp#8258: im enjoying a better game than rl
Tangil#3830: @snokbaz ok sure just send me a replay
snokbaz#2903: i'll play few 2v2 to adjust after 3v3 grind
Simp#8258: ez
Mal#5601: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMTlKJzoYS4 this one I think @snokbaz
snokbaz#2903: and will send a replay
Tangil#3830: Yeah it's that one
Mal#5601: He says a diam 1 is like gold 1
Tangil#3830: That's me
Mal#5601: He's not wrong tho
Tangil#3830: I'm diamond but I'm gold
Mal#5601: Oh god
Mal#5601: I am watching the whole vid and he just guess Silver 2 for a Plat 1
jeroen11dijk#1178: Since when is this the most active channel
jeroen11dijk#1178: I can't keep up |
Parzival#1467: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fuuxmMz_4g
Parzival#1467: this is essentially his response to plats saying they can play at champ
Mal#5601: It's them damn plats, they think they are the best players
Parzival#1467: that video is a quality meme iirc
jeroen11dijk#1178: can be ban all non champs from this chat please
Mal#5601: No cause that means that soon Redox will be able to talk in here
snokbaz#2903: so....
snokbaz#2903: yeah, silver games are messy
Mal#5601: We need replays to nom on
snokbaz#2903: nah. this game was bad
snokbaz#2903: but i'll gif 1 moment
Mal#5601: We don't care, we just wanna watch 😛
snokbaz#2903: also im kinda nervous
snokbaz#2903: normally i dont go for aerials coz i miss them
Mal#5601: Don't be, Redox misses every open goal, you just gotta believe |
snokbaz#2903: but now im wondering if i should go and miss just to look better in ur eyes
snokbaz#2903: like it was a better play
snokbaz#2903: xD
Mal#5601: Same as jeroen
Mal#5601: Both always miss open goals
Parzival#1467: @snokbaz a few gifs aren't really gonna help... its not a matter of ability, more consistency, positioning, and speed
Mal#5601: I always "Tactically whiff"
Parzival#1467: of course i still wanna see the highlight gifs 😃
Mal#5601: The best way to get better is to get people to look at your bad replays
Mal#5601: You learn more from losing that you do winning
Mal#5601: Oh shoot, that's why redox is almost champ
Mal#5601: @Tangil I've cracked the riddle of how you are diam 3
Tangil#3830: Go on
Mal#5601: You lose so much
Tangil#3830: Dam |
Tangil#3830: U got me
snokbaz#2903: @Parzival i know, i'll send a replay after few games
Mal#5601: So you learn more than the average player
Parzival#1467: yeah if you would just stop being bad and losing half the time you would be good :smart:
jeroen11dijk#1178: I always lose :smart:
Tangil#3830: Ok can someone gooder than me at the game analyse one of my 2s games at some point
Parzival#1467: how do i see someone else's replay? copy into my replay folder and find it on the list?
Tangil#3830: Yeah
Mal#5601: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565244889822920704/redox2.png
Tangil#3830: I only had like 2 wins today
Tangil#3830: And I played like 5 matches
Mal#5601: Out of how many matches?
Mal#5601: Oh
Mal#5601: You gonna play any more today?
Tangil#3830: Nah gotta revise |
Mal#5601: k
Tangil#3830: My MMR is dropping like mad though
snokbaz#2903: so i thought i had perfect game to show u
snokbaz#2903: but i fucking almost threw it
Mal#5601: c+ranks theblocks_
calculated.gg#2787:
Mal#5601: OOF
snokbaz#2903: and yeah, i have to say it out loud
snokbaz#2903: silvers are not like plat
Mal#5601: RIP 1160 MMR Redox
snokbaz#2903: but still that plat replay wasnt anything special
Mal#5601: We need replays to survive 😛
Mal#5601: Redox is losing his ranks due to a lack of replays
snokbaz#2903: here are 2 gifs from a first game, before i send u replay of a second one
snokbaz#2903: https://www.gifyourgame.com/DisusedForfeitKinggorn |
Tangil#3830: Snokbaz just send us a replay
snokbaz#2903: https://www.gifyourgame.com/InbyArmoredIsaacclarke
Mal#5601: !snokbaz
Tangil#3830: GIFs are cherry picked but replays tell the full story
snokbaz#2903: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565246845542989825/7BD8FF12409E48C98E3A08ACBF252DEB.replay
snokbaz#2903: pls dont judge for a first 15 seconds
alion02#1973: yoink
Tangil#3830: this is what plateauing looks like https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565247087848062996/unknown.png
Parzival#1467: @alion02 trying 3s with me and gf?
alion02#1973: don't like 3s
Parzival#1467: same
Parzival#1467: lul
alion02#1973: correction: hate 3s with a burning passion
snokbaz#2903: gonna queue for another game in hopes for a better performance
Sciguymjm#5935: what rank is she :lenny: |
Sciguymjm#5935: i think parz just doesnt want to be carried by his gf
Parzival#1467: shes bronze lul
Sciguymjm#5935: thatthejoke.jpg
jeroen11dijk#1178: @Tangil you thinks that plateauing?
Parzival#1467: @snokbaz are you "Huh ?" ?
jeroen11dijk#1178: pretty sure Im on my longest streaks of not having a 10+ losing streak
alion02#1973: @Tangil this is what being rarted looks like https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565247725239795722/unknown.png
Parzival#1467: lul
Tangil#3830: oh my rip
Parzival#1467: wow this replay is a lot faster than i thought silver was
alion02#1973: don't mind me, just calmly losing everything
Tangil#3830: c+ranks alion02
calculated.gg#2787:
Tangil#3830: you're higher than me in doubles so
Parzival#1467: im almost done my solo 3s and 1s placements |
Parzival#1467: c+ranks parzival_6
calculated.gg#2787:
Tangil#3830: casually flexing ranks
alion02#1973: wait so @snokbaz which one are you in the replay?
Tangil#3830: that 1k mmr
Mal#5601: Hmm https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565248670958878720/unknown.png
snokbaz#2903: im huh
snokbaz#2903: 3rd game - clean one
snokbaz#2903: but unfortunately it was 5 - 0
snokbaz#2903: i assume u dont wanna watch that
Mal#5601: I'll begin silently judging you later snok
Parzival#1467: someone plat needs to watch the replay
Marivahlio#3599: where can i get a graph like that
Parzival#1467: rocketleague.tracker.network
snokbaz#2903: Clean 5 - 0 , gold 2v2 ; Huh ? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565249114061799446/1F75A6AE469FE07EFD910FB2153FB6C1.replay |
Marivahlio#3599: c+ranks Marivahlio
calculated.gg#2787: User could not be found, please try again.
snokbaz#2903: use steam id
Marivahlio#3599: ah
Marivahlio#3599: c+ranks 7382039485
calculated.gg#2787:
Marivahlio#3599: cool
snokbaz#2903: also btw, technically im in a low gold lobby
Parzival#1467: c1 1s ay
Marivahlio#3599: yeah reached it last week :DDDD
Parzival#1467: gratz, aint ez
alion02#1973: dang
Marivahlio#3599: but dudes my mechanics are absolutely terrible
Parzival#1467: me too thanks
Marivahlio#3599: i cant hit solid ceiling shots and dont get me started about something crazy like 1 flip reset |
alion02#1973: i managed to get to d3d4 and now i'm in d1d3 👌
alion02#1973: ceiling shots and flip resets are virtually useless in 1s
Marivahlio#3599: mostly yeah
alion02#1973: and if they aren't, you're looking at c3+ gameplay
Tangil#3830: ceiling shots in champ 1 wtf?
Marivahlio#3599: but practising them can boost your aerial car control
alion02#1973: @Tangil are you not aware that ceiling shots are common in diamond?
Tangil#3830: no
Tangil#3830: i am not aware
alion02#1973: \**in 1s*
Tangil#3830: ok thats why
Parzival#1467: @snokbaz your rotation is excellent compared to mechanics imo. that could be normal in silver for all i know
alion02#1973: \**for some reason*
Marivahlio#3599: they are yeah in diamond. But honestly EVERY ceiling shot or air driblle is pretty ez to save
alion02#1973: i'll have to disagree with that |
Marivahlio#3599: unless its squishy ofc
alion02#1973: because i'm garbage at defense
Tangil#3830: 1s is a crap game mode that's why i didn't know
alion02#1973: dude, ceiling shots are common in plat there
Marivahlio#3599: DID SOMEONE INSULT 1S
alion02#1973: yeah 1s suck but they're better than 2s with randos
Marivahlio#3599: ^
Tangil#3830: nope
alion02#1973: i would never play 1s if i always had a sane teammate
Tangil#3830: dude 2s with randos is fine
Marivahlio#3599: what rank are you
alion02#1973: but, alas
alion02#1973: nope
alion02#1973: nope nope nope
alion02#1973: nonononono |
Marivahlio#3599: @alion02 what's your rank in 3s, 2s, 1s
Parzival#1467: i played against a 1s gc a couple days ago (in-game tourny) and that was an experience
alion02#1973: hate 3s (no rank), d3 in 2s, d1 in 1s
Marivahlio#3599: that's not to bad
alion02#1973: hey, wanna 1v1? i wanna see how someone who recently got into champ plays
Marivahlio#3599: yeah sure
Parzival#1467: same tho
Marivahlio#3599: we can have specs
alion02#1973: right now?
Parzival#1467: im bad at 1s but i like to think i know hwo to play against someone better
Marivahlio#3599: fine by me
alion02#1973: alright
alion02#1973: and the most important question
alion02#1973: are you eu?
Marivahlio#3599: yes |
alion02#1973: splendid
Marivahlio#3599: i have like a solid 8 ping
alion02#1973: i have a solid 26-60
Marivahlio#3599: sweet
alion02#1973: *cries in central europe*
Parzival#1467: lol
Marivahlio#3599: my steam name is the same as in discord
Tangil#3830: cries in western europe
alion02#1973: moreover, it's linked to your discord 👌
Marivahlio#3599: anyone wants to spectate?
Marivahlio#3599: hehe oh yeah
snokbaz#2903: Low gold 2v2; low scoring; Huh ? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565251037733060608/85D11988438C2DC58EC247A2557FC623.replay
snokbaz#2903: final game for today
Marivahlio#3599: @alion02 my friend will be spectating as well
alion02#1973: aight |
snokbaz#2903: whats going on?
snokbaz#2903: someone 1v1?
snokbaz#2903: @Mal judge out loud
Parzival#1467: i really think your decision making is good
Parzival#1467: a lot of times you do stuff like jump before turning to the right orientation for a hit
snokbaz#2903: watching khan's guess the rank prediction video
snokbaz#2903: no way 4th clip is a gold game
snokbaz#2903: Parzival, can u time stamp, unless u closed a replay ?
Parzival#1467: im watching it in between games
Parzival#1467: you jump before turning all the way like every 30 seconds lol
Parzival#1467: ill make a list of replay times
snokbaz#2903: feelsbad
Parzival#1467: @snokbaz replay (not ingame) times when i think you definitely should have turned more before jumping in the first replay (teammate Mohrvin): 0:15, 1:35, 1:48, 1:50. i skimmed through like 2:20 so far
snokbaz#2903: that should be enough to understand what u r talking about
snokbaz#2903: will take a look |
snokbaz#2903: so, on 0:15 and 1:35 i was going for a prejump block
alion02#1973: @Marivahlio belated thanks for the games and tips (my internet dieded in the meantime)
snokbaz#2903: intention was to keep the ball at enemy side, not necessary to score
alion02#1973: (i lost the bo3 1-2)
snokbaz#2903: 1:51 i think i shouldn't be jumping at all
Marivahlio#3599: ~sure no probs. it was fun
jeroen11dijk#1178: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrBWlrQ4gSM
snokbaz#2903: this fairy peak charity event
snokbaz#2903: 1k every 2 weeks
Parzival#1467: my times list was just when i think you should have turned more and then jumped based on the situation
Mal#5601: @snokbaz Sorry, I was playing Mario Kart with my parents
Mal#5601: I'll judge now
Parzival#1467: casual 2s anyone?
jeroen11dijk#1178: @Parzival rank?
Parzival#1467: c1 |
jeroen11dijk#1178: sure lets go
jeroen11dijk#1178: Im just slowly demoting
jeroen11dijk#1178: I have a winrate of like 10% in the last 2 weeks
snokbaz#2903: ok, i get ur point about jumping; but should i even go for a jump there ?
jeroen11dijk#1178: @Parzival add me on steam
snokbaz#2903: in retrospect i think i should stay grounded, i just like to prejump in hopes of a epic play
Parzival#1467: @jeroen11dijk name? im parzival_6
jeroen11dijk#1178: its on my discord progile
snokbaz#2903: u can see jeroens steam in his discord profile
Parzival#1467: added
Mal#5601: Am gonna watch messy first @snokbaz
jeroen11dijk#1178: @Parzival you are NA right?
Parzival#1467: yeah, east, but we can play eu
Parzival#1467: just casual
jeroen11dijk#1178: sure |
axelalex2#5793: @snokbaz i can completely analyze all 3 of your replays in a YT-video if you want; i did some before for other members of this server as well
snokbaz#2903: well, if u want to i'll happily watch ur analysis
snokbaz#2903: first game is really messy, third one seems like my avrg play
snokbaz#2903: also im wondering what are practical differences between octane vs dominus/batmobile
Mal#5601: I mean the difference is mostly preference (I don't use any of the cars much anymore) but I believe cars like the dominus and batmobile are said to be easier to flick with and the octane is a good car all round. Personally, I use the scarab a lot, but the taller the hitbox, the easier it is to get strong and accurate hits as well as easier 50/50s and with plank like hitboxes, dribbling is easier as well as flicks. **But it is all down to preference with what car you use, because over time you will get used to hitboxes and be able to do whatever with the hitbox you normally use **
Mal#5601: That's all what I have heard / seen when I continually switch cars
Mal#5601: c+help
calculated.gg#2787: Check your PMs!
Mal#5601: c+profile thatguyded
calculated.gg#2787:
Mal#5601: See, I switch a lot, my most used car is used less than a quarter of the time
jeroen11dijk#1178: @Parzival thanks for the games
Mal#5601: I will also say about that paragraph I sent, it may not all be correct, and if there are things that are wrong, plz tell me
snokbaz#2903: yeah, i dont stress it too much
jeroen11dijk#1178: but I cant really pay attention and the frame drops where horrible |
Mal#5601: rip jer
snokbaz#2903: just wondering if there are situations where dominus has to jump to win a 50/50 or smth similar
snokbaz#2903: due to low height
Parzival#1467: @jeroen11dijk ggs, not my best either (+eu ping)
snokbaz#2903: when octane can just drive straight * ^
Tangil#3830: Don't you dodge to win 50 50s
Mal#5601: Well, I have had 50/50s where i didn't have to jump while in the merc or had to jump when I was using a batmobile, but you get used to it over time
snokbaz#2903: well, i dont know what im talking about
snokbaz#2903: just giving some random examples
Mal#5601: @Tangil depends on what you want the 50/50 outcome to be
Tangil#3830: Well what outcomes do you want
Mal#5601: If the opponent goes high and you go low, then it can go under them easier
Mal#5601: But if you want to stall the 50/50 then you wanna jump at the last second
Mal#5601: or flip at the last second
Mal#5601: it all depends on what your opponent does really |
Tangil#3830: I don't think I've ever actually thought properly about 50/50s
Tangil#3830: I just dodge and pray
snokbaz#2903: same
Mal#5601: My general aim in 50/50s is to hit it weak in the opposite direction to where they try to get it, so I can dribble it away or hit it into the same direction they want to set up an aerial for my teammate
Mal#5601: Cause it gets yoten if you hit it the same way properly
Mal#5601: (Don't trust anything I say fully, I am not a high enough rank to be good enough to properly prove what I am saying is correct)
Parzival#1467: basically you just want possession from a 50/50, or to prevent a good shot
snokbaz#2903: ok guys, i have a replay for u
snokbaz#2903: ---- Ignore this replay ----- https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565314291184435200/0EF634A649C83A1FA2B0A2AD603F7597.replay
snokbaz#2903: there was 1 obvious cut of rotation and a few noticeable mechanical mistakes
snokbaz#2903: but still i have no idea what play should i have made for a decisive win
Parzival#1467: is there a specific time you aren't sure what you should have done? or do you mean the end of the replay?
snokbaz#2903: i mean whole game
snokbaz#2903: its 0 - 1
Parzival#1467: what is the replay called? i cant get it to come up |
snokbaz#2903: First plat game
Parzival#1467: wont come up for me 🤔
snokbaz#2903: im not sure if my teammate would've scored if i didnt cut him; also maybe if i didnt whiff we would've score
snokbaz#2903: but still there were no obvious opportunities to score
snokbaz#2903: back up ur replay folder, clear it and leave only 1 file to see if it shows up
snokbaz#2903: xD
snokbaz#2903: hmm
snokbaz#2903: sec
snokbaz#2903: ----First plat game, 3v3, Huh ?
---there was 1 obvious cut of rotation and a few noticeable mechanical mistakes
--but still i have no idea what play should i have made for a decisive win https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565317787803975690/2A8E6EDD4268E7E29C5D98B817794473.replay
snokbaz#2903: this should work
snokbaz#2903: i sent a file from the middle of a list not sure how
snokbaz#2903: im salty now , had perfect footage of 1v1 for u
snokbaz#2903: i concede after first kick off coz i was looking up spelling of "footage" , wasn't sure if its double o or u |
snokbaz#2903: come back 3 - 1, miss open net
snokbaz#2903: and guy comes back 4 - 6
snokbaz#2903: and i dc with a 1 minute remaining and an open net
snokbaz#2903: next game was good also
snokbaz#2903: Silver 1v1, Huh ? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565324448178110495/F3A4F8924E446D4E5D1C6F9C30C46D46.replay
snokbaz#2903: not for analysis just for entertainment
snokbaz#2903: although tips on frontal kick offs
snokbaz#2903: actually enjoying 1v1 xD
Parzival#1467: nice
Parzival#1467: it makes you better at the other modes too
snokbaz#2903: i hate 1v1
snokbaz#2903: 😄
snokbaz#2903: played vs a smurf but still not sure what his goal was
snokbaz#2903: guy have good plays but obviously messing around
snokbaz#2903: won first game after few good saves, got matched vs him in next game |
snokbaz#2903: and i whiffed like 4 open nets
snokbaz#2903: jumped without dodging or just straight up missed the ball
snokbaz#2903: salty
Sciguymjm#5935: c+ranks Sciguymjm
calculated.gg#2787:
Sciguymjm#5935: F. ranks haven't updated yet
Sciguymjm#5935: c+ranks Sciguymjm
calculated.gg#2787:
Sciguymjm#5935: f
axelalex2#5793: c+ranks axelalex2
calculated.gg#2787:
axelalex2#5793: never drink and play RL
axelalex2#5793: also 1s are ass
twobackfromtheend#1471: I always drink and play rl
chip#7643: c++rank chip |
chip#7643: dang
bah#2368: @Parzival how am i still silver in 1s?
bah#2368: i just won 10-1 against someone
Parzival#1467: keep doing that @bah
Parzival#1467: then you wont be silver :smart:
bah#2368: Lol @Parzival I lost the next two in OT
Parzival#1467: ouch
Parzival#1467: sometimes it be like that
bah#2368: Idk how silver is so inconsistent
Parzival#1467: i just played 3 1v1s against a silver because he thought it would make him better
Parzival#1467: hopefully it helps
bah#2368: Lol
bah#2368: I have no idea how to get better at them
Parzival#1467: it be like that at first
bah#2368: And everyone playing 1s is a plat in 3s |
bah#2368: I've played hundreds of 1s games
bah#2368: I only started 3s, this season
Parzival#1467: its important to take boost from the opponent and maintain possession
Parzival#1467: thats two things the other guy i played against wasn't doing well
bah#2368: I try to do both of those things
bah#2368: I whiff sometimes
bah#2368: I also lose a ton of kickoffs
bah#2368: And they scorw kickoff goals on me every game
bah#2368: *score
Parzival#1467: on kick off, aim for the center of the ball and if you are getting to the ball way before your opponent (they are cheesing you), slow down
Parzival#1467: thats all there is to it. you dont even need a flip on the way to the ball, just at the ball
Parzival#1467: but flipping to get speed is useful
ThatOtherNinja#6315: My 1s strategy is just to constantly pressure the ball and attempt to put my opponent in very awkward positions.
One thing that I haven't seen been mentioned yet is making sure you don't give your opponent too much space (this takes practice but I would suggest going closer than you think you should for a while and gradually move away as you think is necessary, that distance also depends a lot on your opponents abilities)
ThatOtherNinja#6315: Also if you haven't already learned how to half flip it works wonders in 1s, (also practice half flipping into the ball as that is quite a bit different) |
snokbaz#2903: Watch few fairy peaks game ( recent LOR series for example) and focus on his positioning
snokbaz#2903: try to find pattern when he decides to challenge and when its okay to give up a ball and go in ur corner for a boost
snokbaz#2903: another move that i do sometimes is driving away into my corner with a ball when my attack attempt is failed
snokbaz#2903: there shouldn't be "my turn to attack - ur turn - my turn"
snokbaz#2903: just drive away with a ball if u fail, and try again
Simp#8258: thats called not giving up possesion
Simp#8258: important when higher ranked
snokbaz#2903: well, i kinda knew that i shouldn't give up possession
snokbaz#2903: but i didnt know that i can just drive away with a ball
snokbaz#2903: i think it's a legit strat, you keep the ball untill u score
snokbaz#2903: also you trigger opponent by driving away
jeroen11dijk#1178: I just played the legit worst 2s game you can imagine
snokbaz#2903: wanna see a replay
jeroen11dijk#1178: https://www.gifyourgame.com/EarthwardLaboredRoy
jeroen11dijk#1178: I think the open net misses memes are over |
jeroen11dijk#1178: this is the new shit
jeroen11dijk#1178: if I could win 50/50 as well as I lose them I would be godlike
snokbaz#2903: 3 vs 2, 5 min OT game
snokbaz#2903: great play, jeroen
snokbaz#2903: Plat 3v3; Huh ? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565495597893943296/B1A608184F31CC945DAAB792A64A5428.replay
snokbaz#2903: https://www.gifyourgame.com/JettyMaigreBarb
snokbaz#2903: tactical whiff
jeroen11dijk#1178: is this the run 👀 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565500686280687617/unknown.png
Mal#5601: Was it the run?
jeroen11dijk#1178: its still the run https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565505777721147395/unknown.png
jeroen11dijk#1178: nvm it was not the run
Hytak#5125: why is unranked mmr shared between playlists?
Hytak#5125: i'm shit at 1s and get destroyed if i try to play it unranked
jeroen11dijk#1178: Because otherwise it would be ranked
Mal#5601: lol |
Marivahlio#3599: Is it still the run?
Marivahlio#3599: Oh nvm im stupid
jeroen11dijk#1178: No it's not
jeroen11dijk#1178: 15 minutes later I was still stuck
jeroen11dijk#1178: And only got close like twice
Marivahlio#3599: 26 is a pain in the pass. So are all the next levels :)
Parzival#1467: im starting to realize that im just really slow at rocket league
Parzival#1467: not because im not confident, but because i know the limits of my mechanical consistency
Parzival#1467: im not really sure what to do about that, and i dont want to grind training packs zzz
0x57696c6c#3433: Just play for fun
0x57696c6c#3433: It’s a game, you play it to have fun
0x57696c6c#3433: I think people sometimes forget that
jeroen11dijk#1178: thats the same reason I did the Africa quiz
jeroen11dijk#1178: then I realised it was about much more
Parzival#1467: @0x57696c6c i have fun getting better. sorry you dont... |
Tangil#3830: Sometimes it's fun to not play rocket league and play something else
RLBot#1485: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Tangil#3830: Or better yet
Tangil#3830: Have a social life lmao jk
0x57696c6c#3433: lol that would be ridiculous
0x57696c6c#3433: imagine actually going outside lmao
Tangil#3830: Imagine having friends lmao
Parzival#1467: i am super lost, and also unsure if Calculated Will is being serious about "It’s a game, you play it to have fun"
Parzival#1467: like yeah, i hang out with friends and play other video games, but i enjoy trying to get better at RL
0x57696c6c#3433: I think you're taking RL too seriously
0x57696c6c#3433: of course, part of the fun is getting better, but I'd play it even if I didn't get better
0x57696c6c#3433: it's a fun game
snokbaz#2903: it isn't in mm reality
0x57696c6c#3433: and once I get bored of it, I move on
snokbaz#2903: i think games are fun when everyone on a server tries their best |
snokbaz#2903: ideal rotations, passing playing, insane aerials if skill allows it
snokbaz#2903: in really it never happens
snokbaz#2903: nothing clicks at once
snokbaz#2903: so my getting better u get in a higher elo games where ppl should make less mistakes => make game better
jeroen11dijk#1178: RL is all I have
snokbaz#2903: for my taste, fun in low elo lobby is possible only if u play in a party with friends
snokbaz#2903: but then it's about social interaction and not about RL
snokbaz#2903: i haven't played it, but i think cooking with friends is more fun the worse you are
snokbaz#2903: but sports/competitive games are more fun with a better players
axelalex2#5793: @snokbaz i got troubles uploading the video i made about your replays, but i found the most issues you have in the first replay in analysed, since you got scored on 4 times, where mistakes are more apparent. So i unfortunately cannot show off your mistakes, but i'll tell you what you do wrong.
- your landings are bad, you should try to land with all 4 wheels on the ground in the direction you are already going; to train that, go into freeplay, jump high off the walls and the ceiling and use your air control + air roll to land properly
- you need to get higher in to the air, usually you only single jump and use the dodge; use your second jump to get higher into the air, then boost towards the ball (it's not the fastest way to get up high, but it should work for now); knowing when to double jump and when to single jump + dodge needs judging experience, you need that first before you go for even faster aerials
- sometimes you didn't seem to know where your teammate was on the field; not only do you need to keep track of that, but also think about what he might do next, and adjust your play decision after that. If he got a better angle on the play than you do, rotate back into a more defensive position, and let him have the ball
snokbaz#2903: thanks for a reply, was wondering if u were making a video or not
snokbaz#2903: so many people asked for a demo and only parzival and u gave a feedback |
snokbaz#2903: pls watch my last 3v3 games
snokbaz#2903: first 2v2 was messy and it's easy to find a mistakes
axelalex2#5793: a shorter video might work to upload yeah, the 3 replays i had there to analyse are apparently too much for my german potato internet to handle
snokbaz#2903: i mean it was messy even for my standard
snokbaz#2903: in 3v3 though i played my regular at least B lvl play
snokbaz#2903: there was 1 obvious cut off, but rest of my rotations seem fine to me. still lost
snokbaz#2903: so i'd like for feedback
axelalex2#5793: it's the latest replay you sent here?
snokbaz#2903: yes
snokbaz#2903: i can reupload so u dont have to search
snokbaz#2903: 3v3 plat; huh ? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565604081926668309/F3A4F8924E446D4E5D1C6F9C30C46D46.replay
snokbaz#2903: 3v3 plat, game 2; huh ? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565604139355209728/B1A608184F31CC945DAAB792A64A5428.replay
snokbaz#2903: and regarding double jump during aerials
snokbaz#2903: i basically intentionally didnt go aerials during my gold time, just because everyone (including me) whiffs them
snokbaz#2903: i usually stay grounded and follow up on a fuckups |
axelalex2#5793: that should not happen at all tbh
snokbaz#2903: so yeah, just started to implement aerials in my gameplay
snokbaz#2903: need some time to get used to
axelalex2#5793: btw, it's not the issue, that you don't go for balls you should be going for, you are just slow/too low for them to reach them before your opponent does
snokbaz#2903: i notice that as well, will practice
Parzival#1467: I learned to play on the ground well before learning Aerials, but since the game has been out for a while idk if thats as realistic
snokbaz#2903: well, depends on mode and what do u mean by "play well"
snokbaz#2903: how good ur ground play was?
Parzival#1467: I didn't ever go for balls that were high up. I played on the ground until I was very good at it
Parzival#1467: That was in the first couple months that the game was released tho, so noone knew Aerials
snokbaz#2903: good and consistent aerials are still rare in low plat but ppl still go for it
snokbaz#2903: so have to challenge
snokbaz#2903: one guy told me he learned how to aerial in dropshot
Parzival#1467: Lul
snokbaz#2903: but im no near comfortable for that mode |
axelalex2#5793: i learned to properly aerial in the Saviour All-Star Training Pack
snokbaz#2903: i think for my games, basic backboard rebound training pack should be enough
snokbaz#2903: will learn aerials in a more practical manner
snokbaz#2903: anyways thx for feedback, hope u analyze my 3v3 games
snokbaz#2903: if there is something crucial just time stamp it
snokbaz#2903: also if u make analysis in 1 take, u can stream it and i'll watch VOD
snokbaz#2903: so u dont have to upload
snokbaz#2903: anything works for me
snokbaz#2903: and yeah, critique bad plays that worked for some reason
axelalex2#5793: regular streams are unlikely to happen with my connection xd
Mal#5601: Gold players best players confirmed https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565619182532558868/unknown.png
jeroen11dijk#1178: you mean silvers https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565619629934772262/unknown.png
Mal#5601: no gold https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565619797753331732/unknown.png
Parzival#1467: hmmmm
axelalex2#5793: @snokbaz https://youtu.be/mScnfaDIp9Y |
Mal#5601: 😮
Parzival#1467: and there it is
jeroen11dijk#1178: Alex roasting other people
axelalex2#5793: they all want to get roasted
Mal#5601: I wanna analyse redox's replay, that way I can roast him
jeroen11dijk#1178: I love getting roasted
Parzival#1467: i need a gc to roast me...
axelalex2#5793: i need GC
jeroen11dijk#1178: Alex is GC but also a bronze at the same time
Mal#5601: I need C
axelalex2#5793: and i also need D in 1s again xd
Parzival#1467: oof
Tangil#3830: @Mal ok I will send one when I play next time
Mal#5601: 😄
jeroen11dijk#1178: I want 3 D's in 1s |
Parzival#1467: 😮
Parzival#1467: diamond 1v1 is the wild west (i am part of this demographic)
Parzival#1467: i swear
Mal#5601: I suck at D in 1s
Mal#5601: I had D once, then I got annoyed and threw it away
axelalex2#5793: @Tangil @Mal what are your ranks tho? Want to know, if !tgd could make a proper roast on !redox
RLBot#1485: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
jeroen11dijk#1178: yeah its such a clown fiesta
Mal#5601: I am Diam 3 usually in 2s
Mal#5601: Redox is missing a lot in 2s
Tangil#3830: @axelalex2 I think I'm higher than tgd
Mal#5601: he is
Mal#5601: c+ranks thatguyded
axelalex2#5793: euh
calculated.gg#2787: |
Tangil#3830: c+ranks TheBlocks_
calculated.gg#2787:
Mal#5601: 2 mmr
Mal#5601: lol
Mal#5601: You really have been throwing recently
Mal#5601: It used to be 70 mmr
axelalex2#5793: well, then it could be an interesting roast
Tangil#3830: haha yeah tgd
Mal#5601: Difference is, I am Diam 3, redox is carried diam 1 😛
Tangil#3830: not even false
Tangil#3830: i plateaued at d3
axelalex2#5793: play together, and i roast you together :^)
Tangil#3830: actually yes
Mal#5601: We have quite a lot recently
axelalex2#5793: whoever gets roasted harder ~~won~~ lost |
Mal#5601: wanna play a few matches so we can be roasted redox?
Tangil#3830: oaky
Tangil#3830: tomorrow
Mal#5601: k
Mal#5601: I can't give you a time, but it'll most likely be about 4-5 my time cause I gotta do something tomorrow
Tangil#3830: i have a half day tomorrow so i'll be on pretty much all day
Mal#5601: k
Mal#5601: I don't have school till friday I think
Mal#5601: See, your analysis is great alex, but I have just been watching TTT and TTT is calling for me, so I can't watch the whole thing 😛
Tangil#3830: TTT ranked when
Mal#5601: Lol, me fallen and a few of our friends Have played soo much TTT recently
Mal#5601: And tekkit classic
Tangil#3830: i have played rocket league recently
Mal#5601: I last played it with alion a few days ago
Tangil#3830: alion committed derankicide |
Mal#5601: Yeah, Like I said, I played with alion
alion02#1973: i only committed derankicide in 1s tho
Mal#5601: Yeah, i was there, watching
alion02#1973: c+ranks alion02
calculated.gg#2787:
alion02#1973: see
alion02#1973: d3d2
Parzival#1467: someone make a meme of TGD and Redox roasting each other with the format of the two spidermans pointing at each other
Mal#5601: I am no italian
axelalex2#5793: i hope they will argue about who was worse after i gave them stuff to argue about xd
Mal#5601: Me and redox don't argue, we just abuse each other kindly
Parzival#1467: sounds like a loving relationship
Mal#5601: I break the rules just enough so that I don't get kicked and redox tries to stop me
snokbaz#2903: @axelalex2 thanks, gonna watch it now
Tangil#3830: @Mal listen here you little shit |
Mal#5601: hehehehehehe
Mal#5601: Don't get your spaghetti in a knot @Tangil
snokbaz#2903: just a quick plug, w8ed long time in a beginning coz have no idea wtf is my teammate gonna do. Sometime i try to break stale mates but suddenly teammates flicks ball away, im out of position and we get scored
snokbaz#2903: atm my philosophy is better be 0 - 0 than 0 - 1
Mal#5601: you @Tangil redox?
snokbaz#2903: also at a 21-35 (yt time) intend was to slightly pop the ball , just failed execution
Tangil#3830: @Mal yes
Mal#5601: Good
snokbaz#2903: @axelalex2 thanks for a review, but i still don't exactly understand why i should've keep facing the ball at 24:05
jeroen11dijk#1178: I have the annoying stutter again
jeroen11dijk#1178: why always me
snokbaz#2903: dace is obviously is going for a shot so ball should be far in the middle
snokbaz#2903: and if i rush to a center i can probably redirect it into the net
snokbaz#2903: i could've went backpost after dace missed for a defensive play ( wouldn't make a difference in this match anyway)
snokbaz#2903: also i have 0 ball control abilities, so even if i stays in a corner i wouldn't be able to do anything with the ball |
snokbaz#2903: not sure if u counted on that
jeroen11dijk#1178: when you are standing still does it look like your car is landing every so often as well
Mal#5601: @snokbaz I think he means the fact that in the play rather than pushing up, you should have held nearer to the ball to be able to contest if Dace missed
Mal#5601: Or at least, that's what I think he means
snokbaz#2903: ok lets assume that
snokbaz#2903: so whats the play to go past 3 guys ?
snokbaz#2903: dribble and flick , try to roll up the wall and try to shot (not sure if i could even roll it up, blue guy was close)
snokbaz#2903: in that position i had no momentum for a shot
Mal#5601: If you mean as though how do you beat all 3 enemies, you don't need to beat all three, just contest enough to get an oppourtunity for you and your teammates to clear/escape the corner while also maintaining a strong rotation
Parzival#1467: when Dace went for that hit, you were 2nd or 3rd back and you were playing too aggressively in my opinion
snokbaz#2903: keep in mind i have to do that fast ( 8 sec left)
axelalex2#5793: even if Dace succeeds with the touch to the wall, so the ball bounces out to the center, you are earlier at the ball by facing the play; if Dace doesn't succeeds, you can still go for the ball, before the opponent gets to it
axelalex2#5793: the distance you had was quite good, just turning away from it was bad
Parzival#1467: if you wanted to rotate to net, that turn was fine, but you have to rotate immediately
snokbaz#2903: sec, i'll draw some lines |
Mal#5601: You better be ready for some pro ThatGuyRedox replays tomorrow
axelalex2#5793: unless you are rotating out or shadow defending to buy your teammates some time, you should always face the play
snokbaz#2903: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565636910802927628/unknown.png
snokbaz#2903: ok here is my thought process in that situation
Mal#5601: @Tangil I am going to predict what is said when people look at replays with me and you:
- I commit to much and cheat onto attack too much
- You miss shots a lot
- We both don't pass well enough
- I'm too agressive
- Anything you wanna add?
snokbaz#2903: i was at a red box, saw dace, wanted to go red route but he wasn't that fast as i expected so i went green line
Tangil#3830: i can't save or defend properly @Mal
Mal#5601: There we go
Mal#5601: Combined I think we got it
snokbaz#2903: then for some bizarre reason i hoped (coz what else left) that 3rd guy would rush and hit the ball and i would , follow up green line (i guess i should've changed color) |
axelalex2#5793: why go further away from the play, if the team mate coming in isn't that fast? if he isn't that fast, his hit will be not as strong and go not as far
snokbaz#2903: but in reality i should've went blue for a safe since 3rd was was not even on a screen to hit the ball
axelalex2#5793: also, turning around on the place you currently are to get to the ball would take so much more time than staying in the red box, facing the play
snokbaz#2903: well, basically i wanted/expected red line result
Tangil#3830: @Mal also kickoffs
snokbaz#2903: something went wrong and i got lost
Mal#5601: I love missing kickoffs
Mal#5601: I forgot about that
Mal#5601: @axelalex2 Don't bully my kickoffs, I miss 9 out of 10 of them
axelalex2#5793: red line is pretty much what you should have tried yeah
Mal#5601: When you see them at least
axelalex2#5793: blue line is also not good, because your 3rd just got boost in the corner and is positioned very well as goalie
snokbaz#2903: @Tangil i'd say u r too defensive xD
axelalex2#5793: and you got enough boost to make a play
Tangil#3830: @snokbaz yes i am but i don't mind it |
Mal#5601: See that's why I can play with redox
axelalex2#5793: @Mal i bully everything i will notice 😎
Mal#5601: I can just ballchase while he defends
snokbaz#2903: but then u have to 1v2 in attack , tgd
snokbaz#2903: xD
Parzival#1467: you really aren't at fault for was happened in that play @snokbaz because Dace should have at least got some sort of hit, and your 3rd guy should have had a clear. honestly, i think the initial mistake you made was not turning towards the net at 24:00 because then ur in a bad position imo
Mal#5601: Yeah, well luckily I used to play a lot of 1s, so I love solo plays
Tangil#3830: @Mal do i play as defensively as snokbaz says
axelalex2#5793: @Parzival in some scenario i said it was not his mistake, that he didn't save a ball, but he still could have done better
Parzival#1467: yeah, i agree
snokbaz#2903: i dont blame 3rd guy, not sure about 8 sec remaining scenario, but if it was 1min+ game i would've stayed back as well
axelalex2#5793: here it is also not primarily his mistake, but it doesn't excuse that he turned away from the play
Mal#5601: @Tangil I mean, I don't usually pay much attention to how much defence you play, but it is a lot more than me
snokbaz#2903: even if this loss wasn't purely on my shoulders, i had opportunities at least to make it tied
Mal#5601: Ik @Tangil We can use the heatmaps to check |
snokbaz#2903: and whatever happens in OT
axelalex2#5793: exactly that
Parzival#1467: true @axelalex2
@snokbaz your 3rd guy back really screwed up by ball chasing or whatever he was trying to do by going to the corner
Tangil#3830: @Mal what's the website
axelalex2#5793: taking a challenge to prevent the centered ball prior was fine, he just missed it; if he would have won, they go with at least 2 guys along the left wall and have maybe a chance to score
snokbaz#2903: ok i guess i found a problem
Parzival#1467: i guess with 8 seconds left its not a bad move to come out of goal, but its just bad reads and mechanical misplays that resulted in the goal
snokbaz#2903: 23-58, do i really have to push it ?
snokbaz#2903: i could've boomed it (assume i can actually hit a ball) if i just stayed in net
snokbaz#2903: was too panicky
axelalex2#5793: i don't see you at 23:58 in any position to clear the ball far
Parzival#1467: if you are talking about staying in net, as soon as you saw your teammate fly past you towards the ball, you should have braked imo
snokbaz#2903: i was in net, and if i didnt drive out, i would've boomed the ball when blue guy centers it
snokbaz#2903: also it didnt help that i got bumped |
snokbaz#2903: and was further than i should have been
snokbaz#2903: in hindsight i should've known that teammate would panic and rush out of a net
snokbaz#2903: i should've chilled for a sec
snokbaz#2903: ball was goig into the corner anyway
axelalex2#5793: your team mate would have bumped you anyways, but yeah, also an option; but still a very messy situation
Parzival#1467: its hard to talk about this because the situation really shouldn't exist
snokbaz#2903: well 😄
Mal#5601: Congrats @Tangil You are the 3 most played with person for me https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/565640493757628446/unknown.png
Tangil#3830: that's not a good thing for you
axelalex2#5793: yeah, messy situations are hard to analyze, that's why i picked the more cleared up situation right after to explain
snokbaz#2903: is this a natural progression of a ninja path ?
Mal#5601: lol
Parzival#1467: like at 23:54, you definitely should not have been going for a hit. that was Dace's 50/50
snokbaz#2903: non ninja -> probably a ninja - > Redox ?
snokbaz#2903: peak form |
Mal#5601: Yeah
Mal#5601: Redox is that good of a Rocket League ninja, he can hide his skill so well that even he believes he is bad
snokbaz#2903: yeah, i realized that i kinda cut rotation at 23:54 but then i saw blue guy coming
snokbaz#2903: so i had to stay close for a block
Mal#5601: My aim in life is to get my highest used car down to below 20% of the time
axelalex2#5793: @Parzival not sure about that, Dace is also not facing the ball, and completely stopped, so he is likely to lose the 50/50; then suddenly the opponent comes in
snokbaz#2903: maybe i should've left big boost
snokbaz#2903: and rotate back just when i landed
axelalex2#5793: nah
Parzival#1467: he should have gone left of Dace to get between ball and net imo
axelalex2#5793: going boost and then back was faster for you
snokbaz#2903: i realized that situation was messy but it was too late to back off
Parzival#1467: it doesn't matter if Dace loses the 50, snokbaz was on the wrong side of the ball to contest it
Parzival#1467: could have easily own goaled
snokbaz#2903: yup ^ that thought was in my mind during challenge |
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