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Tauon#8039: You simply have to as they stated, derive from your claim.
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: You haven't discovered anyone dropping an egg on mars.
Tauon#8039: @The Hero Of Rhyme, let me send you a picture of me doing just that.
Deleted User#0000: True
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: So you can say nothing about what will ha... |
Salt#1137: The mars egg is a comparison to the idea something needs to be observed to be studied
Deleted User#0000: Well there’s multiple possibilities
Tauon#8039: Sometimes without even knowing the entities involved in the supposed process being investigated.
Salt#1137: if you have to observe it to study it, therefore... |
Deleted User#0000: Yes it does
Deleted User#0000: Antimatter reacts differently to matter
Salt#1137: gravitationally no
Deleted User#0000: Yeah but the reaction is different
Salt#1137: Nah, they would still collide into a bigger blackhole
Deleted User#0000: Everything can be predicted I’ll tell you that
Inquisitor Gene... |
Tauon#8039: @Salt, has he presented anything substantial for his claim?
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: Like what's the point
Salt#1137: nah tauon
The Bibliophile#6843: Honestly guys, what's the point of continuing to talk to him?
Deleted User#0000: I’m telling you I’m not making things up
Tauon#8039: Have any ad hoc and ad ho... |
Inquisitor General of America#0918: though it seems like a useless one
Tauon#8039: Mr. @Dalai Llama, share your wisdom with us.
Tauon#8039: Teach us the path to Nirvana.
Deleted User#0000: I mean both separately
Deleted User#0000: You can do both
Deleted User#0000: @The Hero Of Rhyme it works
Vyryn#4618: You know what?... |
MathBot#7353: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/241626066693783554/453046429070655498/latex.png
Vyryn#4618: @Dalai Llama salt is giving tenets that have something to do with the topic at hand...
Salt#1137: no im not
Salt#1137: I just threw down a laplace equation and a poisson equation and left to get pizza
Vyryn... |
Salt#1137: one of the staff took it away for some reason
Salt#1137: what property
TheTimelessOne26#2853: Distributive property
Salt#1137: um
TheTimelessOne26#2853: And all of that
Salt#1137: 4th grade maths?
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: You'd learn the distributive property in primary school..
Salt#1137: No swear pls
Salt#1... |
Inquisitor General of America#0918: 🙏
Salt#1137: ok good
Salt#1137: there is hope
Inquisitor General of America#0918: I bet dragon wanted to say something about algebra
Dalai Llama#5555: oh by the way
Dalai Llama#5555: what I wrote is a joke
Deleted User#0000: no
TheTimelessOne26#2853: Ya. I have too many names for me... |
lalaladoicare#0934: Where is 2ab?
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: Gone
Deleted User#0000: it's annoying so we approximated it to 0
Salt#1137: specifically if you let a and b be really big, 2ab is approximately 0 compared to a^2 or b^2
Inquisitor General of America#0918: num aln
Inquisitor General of America#0918: op stuff
Inqu... |
MathBot#7353: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/241626066693783554/453051276138381313/latex.png
Inquisitor General of America#0918: bad bot
Tauon#8039: =tex repeat 0
MathBot#7353: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/241626066693783554/453051399505182720/latex.png
Tauon#8039: >.>
Vyryn#4618: In all honesty at ... |
Vyryn#4618: early
Dalai Llama#5555: watching right now
Dalai Llama#5555: I await the day of BFR
TheTimelessOne26#2853: @Vyryn at least you didn’t forgot a name for a algebra property....
Inquisitor General of America#0918: shwooshX
TheTimelessOne26#2853: Quite embarrassing
Inquisitor General of America#0918: i think th... |
Inquisitor General of America#0918: he might have said that to emphasize something
Vyryn#4618: It's more of a super hose aimed downwards to push the rocket upwards, and ideally aimed away from people
Inquisitor General of America#0918: rockets are cool
Vyryn#4618: Exothermic reactions of course occur, but mostly to pro... |
Salt#1137: really now
Deleted User#0000: I think I know why we can’t detect dark matter. First it isn’t on earth, and what I mean by that is you can’t create it on earth, or on any planet. It’s literally the void in space/darkness of space, and composed of a unknown sub atomic particle that we can’t see. The reason dar... |
Salt#1137: Darkmatter isn't "appearing and dissappearing" it just ignores the electromagnetic interaction
Salt#1137: for example electrons ignore the strong nuclear force, so its not unheard of for particles to do that
Deleted User#0000: Okay but it would be an unknown subatomic particle
Salt#1137: To be technical Dark... |
Salt#1137: if you want to know more look up guage theory and unitary groups
Deleted User#0000: Wait which two things did you mean?
Deleted User#0000: @Salt
Salt#1137: Electromagnetism and Dark energy
Deleted User#0000: Okay
Deleted User#0000: But dark energy is supposedly what causes the universe to expand at an increa... |
Deleted User#0000: What about vice versa?
Salt#1137: Dark matter feels gravity, but its not gravity itself
Deleted User#0000: What do you mean by feels gravity?
Salt#1137: as in it interacts gravitationally, like you know how you don't fly off the earth
Deleted User#0000: Oh nvm I understand what you ment
Salt#1137: th... |
Deleted User#0000: So then could gravity be all forms of matter interacting?
Salt#1137: gravity is how objects with mass interact
Salt#1137: similar to how electromagnetism is how objects with charge interact
Deleted User#0000: So then in order to make gravity you would need all forms of matter
Deleted User#0000: Oof
S... |
Deleted User#0000: I understand that
Deleted User#0000: But I’m wondering if gravity isn’t bending space time but rather dark energy
Deleted User#0000: Because as in this case dark energy is causing the universe to expand not gravity which if it expands it could bend the space time, and with black holes dark energy and... |
Deleted User#0000: Wait no matter shouldn’t bend space
Deleted User#0000: Dark matter should
Deleted User#0000: Black holes should theoretically be dark matter
Salt#1137: matter does bend space, and black holes are made of matter
Deleted User#0000: Well black holes absorb regular matter
Deleted User#0000: Or all matter... |
Salt#1137: You would have to explain how a star that is made of matter could collapse into an object made of dark matter
Deleted User#0000: What about being absorbed?
Salt#1137: and you would have to explain why dark matter doesn't couple with the photon field, yet in the form of a black hole it does
Salt#1137: as well... |
Salt#1137: they can both interact with the same particle tho
Salt#1137: all*
Deleted User#0000: What do you think of this whole idea?
Deleted User#0000: If dark matter being gravity
Deleted User#0000: Because we can’t seem to see dark matter or even make it
Salt#1137: Dark matter is not gravity
Deleted User#0000: But y... |
Salt#1137: No
Deleted User#0000: So then what makes up gravity
Salt#1137: curvature of space time
Salt#1137: i've been saying this for like half an hour
Deleted User#0000: I know
Deleted User#0000: So then why isn’t dark matter gravity if the curvature of space time makes up gravity and dark matter causes/makes the cur... |
Deleted User#0000: I think we are on to something
Deleted User#0000: @PEN PEN what was confusing
Deleted User#0000: Could gravitons be the unknown particles
Deleted User#0000: Hehehe
Deleted User#0000: Why the x
PEN PEN#9655: Yes lol i’m In hight school
PEN PEN#9655: I didn’t
Deleted User#0000: Yeah so
Deleted User#000... |
Salt#1137: Graviton is something called a force carrier
Salt#1137: It just tells particles hey you need to feel gravity right now and that's it
Deleted User#0000: Yes inside dark matter
Salt#1137: All matter ding dong
Deleted User#0000: Well yeah
Salt#1137: All heckin day ive been saying that according to gravity is al... |
PEN PEN#9655: Oi?
Calamari?#7380: sorry
PEN PEN#9655: Don’t worry papapapapapapapapapa
Calamari?#7380: ehh... ok
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: There are some graviton models that are good candidates for dark matter, e.g. massive kaluza klein graviton modes.
WHITEshadow#3391: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/2416260666... |
That stylus or spaceX?
PEN PEN#9655: No I mean the rocket
PEN PEN#9655: Lol I know how painting works
gamerayat#7935: At a set altitude, the two first stage rocket booster engines are cut off. A pneumatic stage separation system releases them from the main rocket. The main rocket continues to fire as the boosters fall ... |
gamerayat#7935: Blue Origin, a Jeff Bezzos company, is developing a rocket called New Gleen which will have the similar power.
gamerayat#7935: There will be more launches of Falcon Heavy 9 on the next years.
gamerayat#7935: Besides, there will be a powerful which will be developed on 2022.
gamerayat#7935: It's useful c... |
PEN PEN#9655: Oh yeah true i’m Dumb
gamerayat#7935: Because it has 20bn dollars.
gamerayat#7935: @Nikkoras
gamerayat#7935: Are you from Spain?
Nikkoras#0818: Me?
gamerayat#7935: Yup.
Nikkoras#0818: Yes why
gamerayat#7935: Me, too.
gamerayat#7935: I live in Spain.
PEN PEN#9655: We are mates me too lol
Nikkoras#0818: Yee... |
gamerayat#7935: I see.
Nikkoras#0818: Na jk
Nikkoras#0818: Bilbao
PEN PEN#9655: Lije North north
PEN PEN#9655: Like
gamerayat#7935: Are you studying in High School?
gamerayat#7935: Right?
gamerayat#7935: @Nikkoras
PEN PEN#9655: yeah
Nikkoras#0818: Closest thing to it yesh
gamerayat#7935: That's nice.
Nikkoras#0818: I s... |
Nikkoras#0818: He’s from there
gamerayat#7935: Yes.
PEN PEN#9655: Aren’t you from Catalonia
gamerayat#7935: Yes. Tarragona is in Catalonia.
PEN PEN#9655: Lol i’m So stupid
Nikkoras#0818: Omg
Nikkoras#0818: howd younpass 4th grade
Nikkoras#0818: In spain
Nikkoras#0818: I’m offended
PEN PEN#9655: Sorry for my stupidity
g... |
PEN PEN#9655: Yeah
atoshie3#0957: Say that the earth is flat (I understand that it is not, but for arguments sake) how would that impact people’s lives? (Seasons, tides, gravity, etc.)
gamerayat#7935: It's a lil' bit difficult to imagine.
gamerayat#7935: Hahaha.
Nikkoras#0818: First no gravity, so no moon, no tides. Th... |
gamerayat#7935: xD.
A-Milli👽#7774: Basically
A-Milli👽#7774: They tend to be people that already mistrust the government and tend to believe in multiple other conspiracies...I.E. Fake moon landing, Chemtrails, HAARP, etc
gamerayat#7935: @A-Milli👽 Illuminati, I'm gonna hunt you and I'll send you to the jail because yo... |
A-Milli👽#7774: All of MKUltra is the go-to for them
atoshie3#0957: Didn’t the government release documents saying that they did testing on people? Or was that all false
gamerayat#7935: A lot of people believes in the fake moon landing.
PEN PEN#9655: I did before
atoshie3#0957: Before?
A-Milli👽#7774: There are disclos... |
gamerayat#7935: @PEN PEN With Tor Browser and a proxy.
atoshie3#0957: Look up onion browser and download t
atoshie3#0957: Or tor, or whatever it is
A-Milli👽#7774: They had tons to gain and tons to lose, so faking it would have been very likely if it had been possible
atoshie3#0957: It’s pretty useless tho
A-Milli👽#77... |
A-Milli👽#7774: also, most of the "Dark web" is just test sites and garbage that didn't need to be indexed by the "Normal" internet
A-Milli👽#7774: tons of self made sites, or tests, or random transactions etc
atoshie3#0957: Hate to be skeptical here, but any sources?
Nikkoras#0818: A milli got caught AND called out
A... |
Nikkoras#0818: How dare you
A-Milli👽#7774: Did you know that there are more ant's than there are all of you humans
gamerayat#7935: Thats good!
Nikkoras#0818: We kill ants
Nikkoras#0818: let lower the population
Nikkoras#0818: of ants
Nikkoras#0818: *runs outside stepping on grass
Schwerzli#1831: Alien kill us and its ... |
A-Milli👽#7774: I also only shared the Lifehacker link for TOR since it's pretty in-depth and has it's own sources in the article
A-Milli👽#7774: You ahve to add a country role, but adding roles is disabled temporarily
Schwerzli#1831: Ok thanks
A-Milli👽#7774: no problem
A-Milli👽#7774: You should see an update in #del... |
Capnarchie#7767: illuminati 🤔
A-Milli👽#7774: good question
A-Milli👽#7774: The whole thing is terribly explained and they shrug off known science as untrustworthy government lies
Capnarchie#7767: perhaps its dark energy:smile1:
A-Milli👽#7774: lol
A-Milli👽#7774: I've even heard people say that anytime anyone flies h... |
Deleted User#0000: #deleted-channel, use =giveme with the country
A-Milli👽#7774: You have to add a country role, but roles are disabled right now
Deleted User#0000: oh
A-Milli👽#7774: yeah
Deleted User#0000: rip
Capnarchie#7767: rip
A-Milli👽#7774: It was a whole ordeal, Also some people have had roles removed (Myself... |
Capnarchie#7767: make sphericalearthgeoidagain
atoshie3#0957: From what I understand, there are many people here who like hearing both sides of a debate so they can choose for themselves which is better and more logical. Isn’t that what science is?
A-Milli👽#7774: True, but it won't happen here
Deleted User#0000: Yes, ... |
A-Milli👽#7774: The distrust of the government and stuborness of humanity as a whole would never allow it
A-Milli👽#7774: there are literally people that still believe the Greek gods are real, and will go way out of their way to argue about it
Capnarchie#7767: unlike everyone else i believe im not real
Capnarchie#7767:... |
A-Milli👽#7774: trust me, you don't want to try to argue, because nothing you say will ever get through to them, everything you believe and every bit of evidence or proof you have is shot down as part of the government's lies
Capnarchie#7767: ^
A-Milli👽#7774: they will go so far as to create new insane theories to exp... |
atoshie3#0957: I’m saying they **try** to back it science
A-Milli👽#7774: you literally couldn't try to explain it since it's observably false, and no-one could argue it if they have any semblance of a scientific mindset
swiped#3006: https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-13-2016/B9Ig8f.gif
A-Milli👽#7774: you can't, because i... |
A-Milli👽#7774: there is no way to do that
Jenga#6061: It would be quite a nuisance
A-Milli👽#7774: since their entire theory goes completely against science and logic
Capnarchie#7767: use a neural network for it
A-Milli👽#7774: You can disprove the flat earth in so many ways, pull out a laptop and skype with someone o... |
yaet#0647: """moon"""
swiped#3006: Another good one is that meteorites will have parties crashing down rather than "slingshotting" around a supposed "orbit".
swiped#3006: 😃 so the Earth is a Geiod
Capnarchie#7767: i have been summoned by the geoidearthers
Capnarchie#7767: are we going to discuss when we will obliterat... |
Deleted User#0000: @The Hero Of Rhyme so I talked with salt last night and there is a theory that could explain gravity. I was talking to him that matter causes gravity but specifically dark matter. In this case it involves the microscopic theory
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: Yes dark matter interacts gravitationally like ev... |
Deleted User#0000: So what do you think is causing gravity?
Deleted User#0000: Regarding matter
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: energy-momentum
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: (stress energy tensor to be precise)
Deleted User#0000: One theory I’ve heard is that gravity is a reaction
Deleted User#0000: That doesn’t make sense because i... |
Deleted User#0000: Actually has anyone ever tested the effects of dark matter with regular matter?
Deleted User#0000: So then why isn’t gravity quantum particles?
Deleted User#0000: @The Hero Of Rhyme
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: Yes attempts to measure dark matter coupling with matter are done constantly at a huge number o... |
Deleted User#0000: Wait if a graviton is spinning couldn’t it capture matter?
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: how does that follow
Deleted User#0000: What do you mean?
Deleted User#0000: Or in this case could matter trap gravitons in its orbit?
Deleted User#0000: Like what I mean by that is it’s not attracted to the orbit it’s... |
Deleted User#0000: @The Hero Of Rhyme
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: If something orbited in atoms it wouldn't be a graviton
Deleted User#0000: Why not?
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: Because for something to be a graviton it has to have the properties a graviton is defined to have, by definition
Deleted User#0000: Such as?
Deleted ... |
Deleted User#0000: What about then atoms binding with it
Deleted User#0000: Basically the opposite of what you’re saying
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: That is not the opposite of what I am saying, that is identical to what I am saying.
Deleted User#0000: Yeah no kidding
Deleted User#0000: Let me think for a moment
Deleted Us... |
Deleted User#0000: @The Hero Of Rhyme
Deleted User#0000: Hey do you know if atoms have a spin?
Deleted User#0000: Not the sub atomic particles
Deleted User#0000: And if so what would it be?
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: yes atoms can have overall angular momentum
Deleted User#0000: What is the possibility of gravitons being ... |
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: that isn't thinking, that's not even chinese box level
Deleted User#0000: I think as in questions
Spy#5131: 🤔
Deleted User#0000: I’m also using this http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Forces/funfor.html#c2
Deleted User#0000: @The Hero Of Rhyme It’s not that I’m thinking it’s more that I... |
Deleted User#0000: Talk about arrogant jesus
Eruc#2069: If anything it takes time to comprehend how you're even coming up with this
Eruc#2069: Oh arrogant, Mr. "My brain works in a special way you don't understand"?
Deleted User#0000: What's going on?
Deleted User#0000: Yes just like everyones
Eruc#2069: Just chill
The... |
Eruc#2069: Then find those wrongs but maybe try to understand current physics first
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: What in the world do you think being a physicist is other than trying to find out where physics is wrong and how to update it?
Deleted User#0000: Our current physics isn’t even close to being correct. We still do... |
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: I act like you are 100% wrong
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: There is a huge difference
Deleted User#0000: We just don't know if something is wrong if it hasn't been proven wrong
Deleted User#0000: @Deleted User the hat doesn’t understand that
Eruc#2069: He does
Eruc#2069: You're just too ignorant to a... |
Eruc#2069: Oh sorry
Eruc#2069: What the Hecking frick*
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: ..... Again, what do you think being a physicist is other than trying to find out where physics is wrong and how to to update it?
Could you answer a single one of my questions ever?
Deleted User#0000: **NO SWEARING IN MY CHRISTIAN MINECRAFT... |
Eruc#2069: Yes
Deleted User#0000: Some things are correct without needing to be tested
Eruc#2069: Throw physics books in my face daddy
Deleted User#0000: Mathematics in physics and astrophysics is sometimes enough of a test to say something is right
Deleted User#0000: Usually if mathematics says something can happen th... |
Deleted User#0000: Have you heard of these 3 things? (String Theory, Quantum Mechanics and Relativity)
Eruc#2069: It could prove him right
Deleted User#0000: All I’ve been doing is challenging physics
Eruc#2069: Don't challenge physics
Deleted User#0000: Challenging physics is a little something I like to call dumb
The... |
Deleted User#0000: Also known as every physicist, ever.
Eruc#2069: Maybe begin by understanding current physics
Eruc#2069: You have to understand what you're trying to "challenge"
Deleted User#0000: But current physics isn’t fully correct because it’s missing a large portion
Deleted User#0000: @Deleted User What do you... |
Deleted User#0000: Well, almost
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: Issac Newton... You mean the person that spent his entire life studying physics at Cambridge university?
Deleted User#0000: Actually Archimedes did but a monk wrote over his writings to make a prayer book
Eruc#2069: Are you saying Isaac Newton didn't understand cu... |
Deleted User#0000: Of course someone who invented something saw something that others didn't
Deleted User#0000: Yeah I’m giving an obvious answer to them
Deleted User#0000: or found something
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: He didn't just say loads of buzzwords in a random order then bam optical theory
Eruc#2069: Lmao
Eruc#206... |
Eruc#2069: Oh my dear lord
Deleted User#0000: Earth is round, we know this from observation
Deleted User#0000: Science is right, we know this from testing and mathematics
Eruc#2069: Wow you're saying the earth is round? You really believe NASA and their lies?
Eruc#2069: Smh
Deleted User#0000: I know right
Deleted User#... |
Deleted User#0000: If no one said something was wrong and proved it mathematically, we would probably be stuck hundreds if not thousands of years behind where we are now.
Deleted User#0000: But usually you're probably not gonna find what you want3
Deleted User#0000: want*
Deleted User#0000: Anyone here wanna talk about... |
Eruc#2069: What did it say instead?
Eruc#2069: Link?
Deleted User#0000: I don't have the link
Eruc#2069: Oh well
Deleted User#0000: Let me look up the article
Deleted User#0000: Can't find it
Deleted User#0000: But I don't think they were trying to do a play on words either
Eruc#2069: But what did they say instead
Eruc... |
Eruc#2069: Then there's still a link
Eruc#2069: Go check your browser history
Deleted User#0000: It was something like 30 amazing facts
Eruc#2069: Check your browser history and give us the link
Deleted User#0000: Well, I don't have it
Eruc#2069: How can you not have it?
Eruc#2069: I presume you do know how to check yo... |
Deleted User#0000: I guess the sun isn't the most massive thing in the solar system?
Deleted User#0000: The people that wrote that article have no idea how gravity works
Wilii#0967: Not just gravity, but physics
Deleted User#0000: Yeah
Wilii#0967: As an entirety
Deleted User#0000: "I rely on this book that is thousands... |
Deleted User#0000: *Just because hydrogen and helium are two very light elements doesn't mean that the sun isn't the most massive thing in the solar system*
Tauon#8039: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G0Q7ygC2CU
smasamas#0162: @CrysonaCore ~~Pardon me, but who is Forrack? I tried to ping him but his name didn't show u... |
Alucard#9853: oof
QwertyThePie#1615: Report I'm looking at says it didn't hit
QwertyThePie#1615: Just passed through the atmosphere
QwertyThePie#1615: Although if it had hit, it probably wouldn't have done anything
Deleted User#0000: 2 meters?
Deleted User#0000: That's not big for an asteroid
Deleted User#0000: I mean,... |
Deleted User#0000: it was much smaller when it was in the atmosphere
Deleted User#0000: and it was a good bit of the city
Wilii#0967: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/241626066693783554/453572239183446046/image.jpg
Wilii#0967: More of an ellipse
Wilii#0967: Gotta remember that the meteor is moving
Deleted User#0... |
largesock#8459: on a more fundamental level, does it interact via any force other than gravity? if a gram of dark matter hit my hand, would i feel it?
Deleted User#0000: No
Deleted User#0000: You wouldn't feel it
largesock#8459: it must be incredibly hard to come up with experiments to learn more about it
Deleted User#... |
Capnarchie#7767: since standard physics cant explain anything now
Capnarchie#7767: ***has physics gone too far***
Deleted User#0000: No
Deleted User#0000: Physics can't go too far
Capnarchie#7767: but it can go out of place
largesock#8459: i feel like the only time science goes too far is if it posits something that ca... |
Capnarchie#7767: what if the alcubierre drive doesnt work out
Deleted User#0000: The EM Drive probably won't work either
Capnarchie#7767: we need a way for ftl
Deleted User#0000: The Alcubierre Warp Drive is probably possible, it's just a matter of if we know how to build it
Capnarchie#7767: we need a new era of scient... |
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: Dark matter isn't something that some physicists hypothesized for some theoretical reasons, dark matter came about because we measured that there is dark matter in the universe
Deleted User#0000: Originally it was because Vara Ruben knew that there had to be Dark Matter or stars would fly out of... |
Capnarchie#7767: no
Capnarchie#7767: what makes you think anything in this world is okay
smasamas#0162: I dunno
smasamas#0162: I try to stay positive
Capnarchie#7767: i tried but now its not worth it
smasamas#0162: Yes it is
smasamas#0162: Follow your dreams, and if you fail horribly, whatever. Dust yourself off and tr... |
hailbirdsatan#7413: there's no scientific consensus regarding what initiated the big bang, or how long the singularity was around before it started expanding, or where it originated from
Jaime Sacrilege#0961: Yea but my theory's more of a theory about what caused the big bang I guess.
Vacantsoul#3544: but dark matter- ... |
Satan#6236: My theory: Universes work just like people. They get born by other universes thus creating ours and multiverses.
QwertyThePie#1615: You can actually disprove a theory
QwertyThePie#1615: But if someone thinks gravitons disprove the big bang, they need to stop reading creationist websites.
QwertyThePie#1615: ... |
Jaime Sacrilege#0961: And I never claimed my theory or the other theories were scientific theories, simply a theory, which can also be called a hypothesis.
Jaime Sacrilege#0961: The Bootstrap Paradox is a paradox where the question is asked what originated this idea/creation, but in itself it could be possible.
Jaime S... |
Capnarchie#7767: 🤔
swiped#3006: Is it a hypothesis?
Capnarchie#7767: thanks guy who invented thermodynamics
Capnarchie#7767: at 1852-54
Capnarchie#7767: plot twist a new universe will happen
Capnarchie#7767: 🤔
swiped#3006: Multiverse :V
Capnarchie#7767: 🤔
Capnarchie#7767: what if we are already universes but each ho... |
Capnarchie#7767: am i the only one who has this channel unmuted ;-;
PizzaBaker#4965: @Spy By terms, no more reactions can occur, no more energy production etc.
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: energy isn't defined on a cosmological scale
Deleted User#0000: Time doesn’t exist
The Hero Of Rhyme#6682: :BlobWhat:
derDrache1257#4086... |
This comes from the following papers:
A. Aguirre, S. M. Caroll, and M. C. Johnson, “Out of Equilibrium: Understanding Cosmological Evolution to Lower-Entropy States,” 2011.
M. Davenport and K. O. Olum, “Are There Boltzman Brains in the Vaccum?,” 2010.
L. Dyson, M. Kleban, and L. Susskind, “Disturbing Implications of... |
derDrache1257#4086: But my knowledge on that is limited
derDrache1257#4086: But the infinite universe would have to have already undergone heat death, or otherwise be at total equilibrium
derDrache1257#4086: An infinitely large universe at equilibrium would be the end result of our universe if expansion continues, but ... |
b) I/you/we is/are probably not a Boltzman brain?
Vyryn#4618: as theHat stated earlier
derDrache1257#4086: Well it is unkown how the universe will die, so the premise is uncertain
derDrache1257#4086: If the universe has a totally flat geometry, it will result in heat death and we might be boltzman brains
derDrache1257#... |
derDrache1257#4086: Well if the brain is just 'experiencing' past events over again then yeah you're right
Vyryn#4618: IMO, that's a sufficient condition for existence being meaningless
derDrache1257#4086: But shouldn't the brains also be infinitely likely to remember future events?
derDrache1257#4086: And remember all... |
However, this appears to be true automatically if the universe is infinite. Therefore, it's only logical to conclude, whether it's true or not, that the universe can't be infinite.
derDrache1257#4086: Well this is a predicament
derDrache1257#4086: I mean the argument for boltzman brains forming is hypothetical. It make... |
Vyryn#4618: @derDrache1257 yes, but they both lead to the conclusion that experiments are unreliable
derDrache1257#4086: This is true
derDrache1257#4086: Vacuum decay of the Higgs field is pretty scary
Vyryn#4618: ergo, meaningless existence again
derDrache1257#4086: But either way meaning is kind of subjective
derDrac... |
Ever read the three body problem?
Vyryn#4618: (the novel)
derDrache1257#4086: No
Vyryn#4618: Hmm. Okay... the relevant thing is that aliens send some infinitesimal robots to Earth to mess with experiments and make them produce unreliable results so no major advancements can happen while their invasion fleet is on the w... |
derDrache1257#4086: I don't follow
Salt#1137: Well to be fair you wouldn't say "The light always turns the couch into gold" as a law, but rather the mechanisms that allow the light to work, and then the light's function follows from those laws
derDrache1257#4086: Alright
derDrache1257#4086: I get that part
Vyryn#4618: ... |
derDrache1257#4086: This is... troubling
Vyryn#4618: mmhmm
Vyryn#4618: 'course, it all goes away if you decide the universe can't be infinite...
derDrache1257#4086: This is weakly related but I poked a pretty big hole in the simulation hypothesis
Vyryn#4618: Sure
derDrache1257#4086: The initial simulation would be run ... |
derDrache1257#4086: The whole idea of the sim hypothesis is that they are simulating their universe, with inevitably leads to the simulation spawning a simulation, and so on infinitely
derDrache1257#4086: And we are most likely to be in one of the simulations
Vyryn#4618: It needn't. They could just simulate a few thous... |
Vyryn#4618: Amazing youtube channel for these topics, btw.
derDrache1257#4086: Good to know
derDrache1257#4086: I mean, I'm of the opinion that it's an interesting idea
derDrache1257#4086: It's just that in a scientific conversation Newton's Flaming Laser Sword eliminates it
Vyryn#4618: This may be controversial, but i... |
derDrache1257#4086: A tiny being on the scale of atoms created by a human would exist, although the human lives in a higher reality, in the emergent world of the macroscopic
Vyryn#4618: From the deck of your ship, does the ship and bottle appear to be a complete reality? No.
That was a necessary condition I initially ... |
Vyryn#4618: So I group theism, the simulation hypothesis, and, tentatively, an infinite universe under it.
derDrache1257#4086: Alright
derDrache1257#4086: I would make an exception for certain types of theism, namely religions
derDrache1257#4086: Because those deities intervene with the universe
derDrache1257#4086: Whi... |
derDrache1257#4086: Alright it won't display and image
derDrache1257#4086: nvm xD
derDrache1257#4086: This has been really interesting and I've enjoyed it but I need to get some sleep
derDrache1257#4086: We can talk more another day c:
Vyryn#4618: You can post images if you get a role in #deleted-channel
Vyryn#4618: Ha... |
largesock#8459: Ha. Not even Find my iPhone enabled?
QwertyThePie#1615: By "into space", how high are we talking?
QwertyThePie#1615: And from that height, I don't think Find my iPhone would help much
QwertyThePie#1615: Unless the balloon slowed the fall a bunch
largesock#8459: Oh, right. Glossed over the parachute part... |
largesock#8459: how effective is it really? would it detect a civilization of earth's current complexity if we were located relatively close within the milky way?
Deleted User#0000: we're probing around in the dark
Deleted User#0000: hoping someone smart will probe back
Async#8250: @Deleted User thank
Deleted User#0000... |
Deleted User#0000: Hell how long did it take for humans to achieve flight and then space
Deleted User#0000: never once in that process we broke a single law
Deleted User#0000: Yeah but doesn’t mean we can’t in the future
Deleted User#0000: no, it does
largesock#8459: it seems like overconfidence to say we know what all... |
largesock#8459: i'm just saying we may think we know what it is but we don't really
largesock#8459: maybe there are tiny extra folded dimensions that can be used to transfer energy
largesock#8459: something like that
Deleted User#0000: what ifs don't make reality
largesock#8459: it's very hard to prove a negative
Delet... |
Deleted User#0000: prove that
largesock#8459: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13556-10-impossibilities-conquered-by-science/
Deleted User#0000: Because they would most likely be thousands if not hundreds of thousands years of technological advancements ahead of us
Deleted User#0000: prove that
Deleted User#0000:... |
Deleted User#0000: I said intelligent species. Survival is for every species what I’m saying is what makes intelligent species different from non intelligent species
Deleted User#0000: we want to survive
Deleted User#0000: that's all people do
largesock#8459: that is a good point, but we're just scanning what arrives a... |
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