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NeverCast#1448: Ah yeah. That's the Gold slump
NeverCast#1448: Consistency is the worst.
NeverCast#1448: Whenever someone asks. "How is that person such high rank" consistency is the answer most the time.
ccman32#4022: well i do feel like I'm technically really not that bad at all
ccman32#4022: but tactics are a problem
ccman32#4022: especially when teammates just do their own thing and everyone gets into each others way
NeverCast#1448: Yeah. It's hard to be strategic when teammates don't understand the concept
NeverCast#1448: Then you just play janitor and clean up their ballchase.
NeverCast#1448: I think my tactics are good, but my mechanical is greatly lacking.
NeverCast#1448: Walls screw me and dodges still confuse me
ccman32#4022: yeah walls are an issue sometimes for me
ccman32#4022: but i think most of the basics are quite solid for me
NeverCast#1448: My shoot/kill ratio is like 30% haha
ccman32#4022: haven't checked my statistics for qutie a while lol
ccman32#4022: lol did they reset these at some point or what |
ccman32#4022: i have like 50% of all shots are goals
NeverCast#1448: Maybe that means you hit the wall a lot :p
ccman32#4022: lol why
NeverCast#1448: Because that doesn't count as a shot on goal
Yannoux#6969: being ban only means you can't play with friends apparently...
ccman32#4022: wow, finally at least gold 3 again lol
axelalex2#5793: I DID IT! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/435952364009029643/2018-04-18-015645_4864x1440_scrot.png
dtracers#9598: Nice
noodle beard#0367: dang @axelalex2 I've got some catching up to do
noodle beard#0367: Just got my Champ 1 back with this goal, so I'm coming for you
noodle beard#0367: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrkB60zPB6M
axelalex2#5793: So i just did this xDDD https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/436084895350128651/62D5210411E842E4D28502B7D8101DE8.replay
Yannoux#6969: so i found this ... and compared dick size with it... i'm disapointed
Yannoux#6969: https://rocketleague.tracker.network/
NeverCast#1448: Haha. Yeah. You're Gold tho right? |
NeverCast#1448: So you're better than like 90% of all of rocket league
Yannoux#6969: i'm in the top 80%
NeverCast#1448: Ehhh!? Damn... The average player base has gotten better
Yannoux#6969: one crude way to say bellow average 😭
GooseFairy#6680: That site seems to not work rn?
Yannoux#6969: idk
Yannoux#6969: it works fine for me...
NeverCast#1448: Well. Have you considered getting better ? :P
GooseFairy#6680: Says psyonix has disabled their API temporarily
Yannoux#6969: i have considered. but not trying hard
Yannoux#6969: might just try harder in japan tho...
Yannoux#6969: 😏
NeverCast#1448: Don't you have any local servers ?
Yannoux#6969: ? i will move to japan, is what i was saying
NeverCast#1448: Try not ball chasing, and practice good clears. |
NeverCast#1448: Since if you're not ball chasing. Everyone else in Gold will be. So you'll have to make some nice saves
NeverCast#1448: Oh right. Move to Japan. Ahh ye
Yannoux#6969: intership and stuff. VR and unity related
Yannoux#6969: stuff i know already, so it's more like vacations for me... not paid but it's fine
Yannoux#6969: i notice that every time i go for the ball there are no body defending. i'm almost rotating alone...
axelalex2#5793: @Yannoux you now RLTracker?
Yannoux#6969: you mean you know ?
Yannoux#6969: yeas kinda.
Yannoux#6969: it looks like i'm simply bad at competitive games... even if i try hard i manage to be above average.
Yannoux#6969: my lol rank was silver
Yannoux#6969: the only game where i excel is in Tetris friends...way to talk about an achievement 😄
GooseFairy#6680: I played competitive tf2 back when it was community run
GooseFairy#6680: :p
axelalex2#5793: all my MMRs (except for Solo Standard, because Solo Standard is crap) have been rocketing the last days
http://rltracker.pro/profiles/axelalex2/steam |
axelalex2#5793: weirdly enough, the match history in the stats show my actual MMR, while the chart and the overview are still at a state of 2 days ago
Sciguymjm#5935: blame caching
axelalex2#5793: yeah, it's good now xD
Sciguymjm#5935: @GooseFairy ayy i played comp tf2 too. i led a UGC iron/silver team for two years
GooseFairy#6680: Lol I joined a ugc steel 6s team for a season and we won half our matches xD
GooseFairy#6680: Also played highlander for a bit but that was just a team of friends
Yannoux#6969: saying i'm good at tetris because i'm in the top 30% in marathon...
twobackfromtheend#1471: i've managed to derank in 3's from champ to diamond and derank solo 3's from diamond to plat in one session
dtracers#9598: HEY
dtracers#9598: thats been me
dtracers#9598: this past couple of weeks
dtracers#9598: except i have not made it to plat
twobackfromtheend#1471: pssh
dtracers#9598: im super close though
twobackfromtheend#1471: you needed weeks |
twobackfromtheend#1471: i did it in hours
dtracers#9598: from champ 1 do diamond 2?
twobackfromtheend#1471: champ 1 to diamond 3 in standard
twobackfromtheend#1471: diamond 1 to plat 3 in solo standard
twobackfromtheend#1471: what a nice dip https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/436657497856540672/unknown.png
dtracers#9598: oh no i did it from champ 1 to diamond 2
dtracers#9598: and from diamond 3 to to diamond 1
dtracers#9598: get on my level
twobackfromtheend#1471: nah i'mout
twobackfromtheend#1471: count me out of this entire tournament
dtracers#9598: lol what tournament?
dtracers#9598: are you gonig to lose to the bots too
dtracers#9598: 😮
twobackfromtheend#1471: i was quoting yemen
NeverCast#1448: I had hoped to reach Diamond 1 this season, I think I have failed 😦 |
NeverCast#1448: How long do I have?
dtracers#9598: a while?
dtracers#9598: they have not announced the end yet
NeverCast#1448: Oh. Neat. There is still time.
NeverCast#1448: I have gone up every season that I've played, one rank at a time.
NeverCast#1448: Last season I got plat rewards, I need diamond this time!
Yannoux#6969: can anyone explain me why i stay in silver even when i do matches like theses ? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/437200823802658837/B8A145E2403DE4F3304375B38BBA547B.replay
Yannoux#6969: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/437200833080459274/6D7FBC134F8AB93DA26D5892BBF6376A.replay
axelalex2#5793: holy fuck, your cam settings, i'm getting dizzy
axelalex2#5793: Tbh, everyone once in a while has games, where everything just works. If you want others to tell you what to improve, send a replay of a "typical" loss or a close game..
twobackfromtheend#1471: just watched the first game. it's mostly just your opponent making extremely questionable decisions
twobackfromtheend#1471: like sometimes he's literally a second late to the ball
axelalex2#5793: the second guy is too passive in general, but we cannot tell you what's going wrong with your ranked matches, if you show us your biggest wins :P
twobackfromtheend#1471: the second guy literally missed this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/437206372807999488/20180421120143_1.jpg
twobackfromtheend#1471: i get the feeling he was having a bad game mechanically speaking and this really affected his decision making (like he might've been second guessing himself) |
twobackfromtheend#1471: are these like the sadjunior camera settings or something
twobackfromtheend#1471: "hanging out in a helicopter"
Yannoux#6969: i will send a more typical game where i did my best next time.
Yannoux#6969: with loss anyways.
Yannoux#6969: i have one where i tried to be ultra defending... which didn't worked out
Yannoux#6969: but it was in 3v3
Yannoux#6969: ok i'm done with trying hard in this game
Yannoux#6969: last game me made a goal, then the guy who did the goal dc. so we were left with an other guy who dealt pretty good with arials but he only wanted to follow the ball all the time. so i started to defend... missed one save he quitted.
Yannoux#6969: then i got rect because i was alone and not able to me at mutiple places at the same time.
Yannoux#6969: ended in a 2:4 at 1min before i quit
Yannoux#6969: last replay i have saved... i guess it is called something like typical silver game ... if you want to see how bad i am
Yannoux#6969: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/437267693335347210/39AA62D74EEA9D6095C5F5B9A57B1E72.replay
axelalex2#5793: Alright, the goal you conceded is already really dumb; you got to communicate with your teammates, especially at the very first kickoff. If you are not sure if the guy beside you is ready to play (because his tires were not moving), go for the kickoff yourself.
axelalex2#5793: 1 30 minutes into the replay, you are playing pretty solid so far
axelalex2#5793: the kickoff after the 2:1, only one guy needs to go, again quick chat communication |
axelalex2#5793: but that's pretty much the only issue in this game; of course you are not carrying your team, but you give them a solid backline by staying at the midfield line and pushing up when the ball comes to your side to buy your teammates time to reset
axelalex2#5793: so basically a lower skilled version of Kronovi/Fireburner/Torment/ViolentPanda
axelalex2#5793: If you want to really rank up, you got to learn some air control, that's the thing i have seen as the most severe in your car control so far. All others around this rank are not really familiar with aerials, so if you get them down and continue being the safeline for your team, you might be able to rank up by 2 major ranks (Silver 1 to Silver 3) in a few days
ccman32#4022: not familiar with aerials?
ccman32#4022: when was the last time you played on this level?
ccman32#4022: To me it seems like literally everyone in this game can do aerials already
axelalex2#5793: he corrected the angle of his car towards the ball multiple times in the air, so i would not say he can do them safely
ccman32#4022: doing them and doing them safely is a big difference
axelalex2#5793: just getting a touch by aerialing is not what you want to do
axelalex2#5793: that's why i said training aerial controls might be the best way to rank up
ccman32#4022: no not at all
ccman32#4022: its tactics and positioning
axelalex2#5793: he does that well already by being the third man (given that this replay shows his usual playstyle)
Tangil#3830: > tactics
> in solo queue |
ccman32#4022: exactly
ccman32#4022: because you must be so good in that that you can compensate the lack of common sense of your teammates 😂
axelalex2#5793: I'm champ 3 in 2s not because i can do the sickest mechanical stuff, but rather because i know how to play in a team. Another reason why i'm relatively bad at 1s.
Being able to enable your teammate(s) how they like to play is a huge skill, which most people don't understand. Kronovi/Fireburner do the best job at it. Even they tend to stay back and let JKnaps and Rizzo/GarrettG and jstn do their incredible offense, while they fill the holes of the defense, if their offensive push fails. Torment does this with Squishy and Gimmick as well, but as Gimmick was quiet offensively this season, Torment couldn't fill in the holes as he was used to do.
axelalex2#5793: So, tactically inXS212 does really well. Enabling his teammates to play like they want to play. If you have players in the team, who always fling themselves at the ball, let them do that, and back them up. It's pretty much the only way to be successful, because they don't change their playstyle that quickly.
Tangil#3830: that's a nice analysis
Tangil#3830: Just rekt from n00bs and won 6-2, someone tell me why I shouldn't be in Grand Champ right now
axelalex2#5793: because you conceded 2 goals
Tangil#3830: hahaha
Tangil#3830: i barely play this game anymore so i'm happy with my performance so far
ccman32#4022: so what shall i train?
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/437277931857772555/4C75CBE5430016E9D00B44856A11BE44.replay
Tangil#3830: holy fuk i just rewatched an entire replay of a match because i liked my performance enough
axelalex2#5793: now not anymore? :P
axelalex2#5793: @ccman32 i'll finish my uni homework, then i'll take a look |
Tangil#3830: @ccman32 i'll take a look, even if i'm probably worse than you 😛
ccman32#4022: ^^
Tangil#3830: i'm 1:23 but you really need to let your opponent touch the ball
Tangil#3830: ok maybe not as much now
ccman32#4022: my opponent? why?
ccman32#4022: xD
Tangil#3830: ***partner
ccman32#4022: oh ok xD
ccman32#4022: well first match of the day lol
Tangil#3830: also maybe improve your aerials since you missed them at the start of the replay
Tangil#3830: i guess not accuracy as much as judgement of when you should go for the aerial
ccman32#4022: yeah i miss a lot
ccman32#4022: but always very very close
ccman32#4022: its so annoying
Tangil#3830: yeah so you need to train at that |
ccman32#4022: lemme upload another replay
Tangil#3830: a good pack is the Uncomfortable Saves one
Yannoux#6969: well thx. i though i had trained my aerials enough. but from what you say it seems that i don't really master them. so ... i will focus on this later. right now i must unsalt from last games...
axelalex2#5793: no problem. I mean you hit the ball consistently, but you correct a lot, that's the issue i see ;)
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/437281140957773825/72BE0E4D4DF4C194ABFD86B02AAF838A.replay
Yannoux#6969: the first goal we coincided i though he was in game. and then though about our guy behind who could defend it anyway... could not predict who would go where. i said take it ...
axelalex2#5793: @ccman32 finished your first replay. You didn't get into the space of your teammate too much, so that's a plus. The shots you took in the second half of the game were threatening and one being successful, so that was good as well. Your decisions to go for aerials were correct, too, but every time you go for an aerial, you jump only once to preserve your second jump to dodge into the ball. It's good, when the ball is relatively low, but if it is high up in the air, there is no way you will reach that. You got to use the double jump sometimes to reach the ball earlier (or even reach it at all, because you flew by most of the high balls ^^)
axelalex2#5793: Second replay, really good play for your second goal, perfect timing, when the opponents disregarded their space to each other.
ccman32#4022: lol i never double jump up
ccman32#4022: would probably be difficult af to change that since i play like this for way over a year
Tangil#3830: i used to not double jump also but you should just try
Tangil#3830: it really helps with higher aerials
axelalex2#5793: At two of the goals you conceded in the end, you could have done a little better. The 4:5 went in, because you and your teammate closed in at each other, making it easier for the opponents to get around you and score the goal. It's not your or your teammates fault in particular, you both are equally responsible for that. Your defensive play at 4:6 was okay, your teammate couldn't keep up the defense. At the 4:7, you hesitated slightly after you took the kickoff; instead if you would have gone directly for the boost at the side and go back in defense, you could have made a safe. It's again not your fault in particular, but you could have backed up your teammate after he failed to follow up the kickoff. You only should stay at the ball after the kickoff, if it is in directly near you, otherwise go for boost.
But all in all, you actually won that game 4:3, so 👍
axelalex2#5793: And yes, double jump aerials are important for high balls to get into higher ranks. |
ccman32#4022: jesus fucking christ WHAT a match
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/437289308785737747/319506C1422B49119B675BBD95581C08.replay
axelalex2#5793: wow, you really got lucky, that your teammates didn't punish you
axelalex2#5793: your teammate has a shit cam xD
ccman32#4022: punish in what way? xD
axelalex2#5793: score goals? there is no other way punishing mistakes in rocket league :P
ccman32#4022: im really not sure what you mean
axelalex2#5793: the save on the goalline in the overtime you had to make before you got the winning goal? They had an open net, because you overcommitted into your teammates space, and they didn't score
axelalex2#5793: until 3:3 everything was fine, but i have to rewatch the game from your teammates perspective
axelalex2#5793: your opponents had another open net at 2 minutes game time on the clock
axelalex2#5793: didn't score
ccman32#4022: the part i didnt understand is
ccman32#4022: how can my teammates punish me by scoring goals?
axelalex2#5793: oh, the fuck did i type there? xD
ccman32#4022: xDDD |
axelalex2#5793: meant the opponents of course
axelalex2#5793: xDDD
axelalex2#5793: I suspect you and your teammate had troubles seeing each other in the overtime, because you came close on another on multiple occasions. For him it was, because of his annoying cam settings, i think for you it was more, because you like to play upfront - which is fine, but if it is time for the teammate to hit the ball (which usually is the case, when you are not close to the ball or you are retreating back to defense), then let him do it and not suddenly turn around to go for another hit.
ir0nhamm3r#8963: what rank are you guys btw?
ccman32#4022: in what
ir0nhamm3r#8963: whatever
ir0nhamm3r#8963: mean rank (if that's relevant haha)
ccman32#4022: gold/plat-ish
Yannoux#6969: high end silver 😒
ir0nhamm3r#8963: can't your bot play for you? haha
ir0nhamm3r#8963: "The framework cannot be used online" well
ccman32#4022: how can u see his cam settings @axelalex2
axelalex2#5793: Just watch his player cam in the replay; i cannot see the exact parameters he has, but his car makes up 25% of his view all the time.
ccman32#4022: lol didnt know it actually applied player cam settings there
Yannoux#6969: it applies your camera setting .the other player in the replay will not have there cam setting registered |
Yannoux#6969: instead they will have the default one. which i found worst than having no camera.
Yannoux#6969: low altitude, close to the car. behind the car and can't see in front of you when you dribble
Yannoux#6969: also camera would take a second to settle to stabilize between ballcam and not.
twobackfromtheend#1471: no. replays show all players' own camera settings.
Yannoux#6969: camera settings is not shared between players even in spectator mode ?
twobackfromtheend#1471: ``` {
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"ClassName": "TAGame.CameraSettingsActor_TA",
"InitialPosition": {
"X": 0,
"Y": 0,
"Z": 0
},
"TAGame.CameraSettingsActor_TA:bUsingSecondaryCamera": true, |
"TAGame.CameraSettingsActor_TA:ProfileSettings": {
"FieldOfView": 110,
"Height": 100,
"Pitch": -3,
"Distance": 260,
"Stiffness": 0.4,
"SwivelSpeed": 10,
"TransitionSpeed": 1.1
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"TAGame.CameraSettingsActor_TA:PRI": [true,
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twobackfromtheend#1471: camera settings in replay/spectator correspond to the camera of that player
twobackfromtheend#1471: not of the spectator
Yannoux#6969: so it is shared with spectators. |
Yannoux#6969: as for players making a replay it is not ...
twobackfromtheend#1471: i don't get what you're trying to say
Yannoux#6969: there is this spectator mode in private matches where you can see matches in live.
Yannoux#6969: the thing you would see in tournaments and exibitions matches
twobackfromtheend#1471: yup
Yannoux#6969: this is the spectator i am talking about.
if this spectator change players camera. will it see the player's cam settings used ? or will it see it's own (spectator) settings used ?
twobackfromtheend#1471: you will always see the player's cam settings
twobackfromtheend#1471: not your own
Yannoux#6969: even in replay mode ?
twobackfromtheend#1471: yes
Yannoux#6969: what if a player (and not a spectator) records a match ? will the replay contain cam settings ?
twobackfromtheend#1471: yes
Yannoux#6969: so it is always shared between players ?
twobackfromtheend#1471: yes |
Yannoux#6969: i though it was not, like never
twobackfromtheend#1471: nah, you can always see everyone's camera settings.
Yannoux#6969: have you seen mine ? what do you think of it? somebody said it made him dizzy... i don't get it .(*that guy should try an hour of Roller coasters in VR*)
twobackfromtheend#1471: your camera height is very very high
Yannoux#6969: close to the ground looks bad. it feels like i'm always fast AF and i can't see when i dribble.
twobackfromtheend#1471: whatever suits you 😛
twobackfromtheend#1471: http://liquipedia.net/rocketleague/List_of_player_camera_settings you can look at this for reference
twobackfromtheend#1471: usually when dribbling it's commonly said a closer camera gives you better ball control
twobackfromtheend#1471: map awareness is usually not a problem if you've played enough, and opponent-awareness is usually good enough by listening/looking before your dribble
Yannoux#6969: yet can you predict opponens ? Kappa
twobackfromtheend#1471: lol. but faking is a thing only because you can literally predict opponents sometimes
Yannoux#6969: faking also became a sort of 'lag excuse' from what i have seen.
twobackfromtheend#1471: lol yeah. it's funny
Yannoux#6969: silvers are expert in faking. they can even fake last tick goals
Yannoux#6969: Kappa |
Yannoux#6969: don't make me talk about bronze and the total mind game going on Kappa
Yannoux#6969: they have reached a higher level of faking, faking the fakes. making them illusions, therefore nothing
Yannoux#6969: i will now proceed to try hard.
NeverCast#1448: Faking only works though, if your opponent thinks you're actually capable of hitting the ball. So that rules out Bronze and Silver. Following that, faking only works if your opponent can see anything other than the ball. Which rules out Gold and Low Plat.
Yannoux#6969: does not mean they would try to fake Kappa
Yannoux#6969: fake works only in 1v1 or in higher ranks
Sciguymjm#5935: final scores 🤦 im the top one https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/442121213658267649/unknown.png
Sciguymjm#5935: still lost
skoocda#6230: ouch
Sciguymjm#5935: overtime ;-; https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/442127456476856321/unknown.png
skoocda#6230: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/442183696657809417/IMG_20180504_204258.jpg
skoocda#6230: Same feels
skoocda#6230: But I don't have a screenshot key
Tangil#3830: i think steam's screenshot key in any game is f12
Tangil#3830: tfw a game has f12 as a key but so does steam |
axelalex2#5793: > having Ubuntu
> print-button puts screenshot in ~/Documents
> not many games
> therefor print-button useless
GooseFairy#6680: https://i.gyazo.com/4668023dd8276964d69f4c6b188a72f3.png
GooseFairy#6680: haha I went 42-0 in an allstar match
dtracers#9598: thats a lot of kickoffs
GooseFairy#6680: not gonna beat that anytime soon
GooseFairy#6680: 8.4 goals per minute
GooseFairy#6680: @axelalex2
GooseFairy#6680: ;)
GooseFairy#6680: @Uorodin
GooseFairy#6680: u too
Uorodin#6239: What
Uorodin#6239: who me |
Uorodin#6239: hello
Uorodin#6239: hi
Uorodin#6239: I thought I already beat that?
Uorodin#6239: I thought I did 50 somethin
dtracers#9598: Uh oh called out
dtracers#9598: @GooseFairy you suck :P
dtracers#9598: Need to get 51
GooseFairy#6680: lol 50 would be impossible
GooseFairy#6680: well not really
GooseFairy#6680: but ya gonna need more proof than "i thought i did"
GooseFairy#6680: your highest is 37 i think
GooseFairy#6680: actually I guess 85 would be the max assuming an average of 3.5 seconds per goal
Marvin#2413: If it's against an open net tho even a bot will be able to score 150 goals lol, assuming 2 seconds per goal
GooseFairy#6680: this is against allstar
GooseFairy#6680: the side kickoffs take 3-4 seconds since you have to let the bot hit the ball towards you and longshot the goal to be consistent |
Marvin#2413: Yeah i know
dtracers#9598: @GooseFairy could you trick the all Star to getting a second touch that goes in
GooseFairy#6680: yea I just started doing that but I haven't found it to be a reliable replacement
Marvin#2413: close enough lol https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/443621582410088478/148.jpg
GooseFairy#6680: lol how long did that take to finish?
Marvin#2413: it says 19 minutes in the corner haha
Marvin#2413: it's more than that tho because of goal replays
chip#7643: so the all stars just do the same kickoff every time, or?
GooseFairy#6680: the off-center ones differ sometimes
axelalex2#5793: @GooseFairy do you remember my record? I don't even remember myself ^^
GooseFairy#6680: Im assuming 39 because that was the last image you posted about it
axelalex2#5793: Got it. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/443853404612329482/E94E19C811E853BCEA49F8A99442370A.replay
axelalex2#5793: @GooseFairy no comment? :P
GooseFairy#6680: was I supposed to watch it?
axelalex2#5793: ehm, yes? xD |
GooseFairy#6680: https://gyazo.com/100ac4b446c0ac1bdd1a9f4195852658.gif
GooseFairy#6680: does this happen to you
dtracers#9598: Yes
GooseFairy#6680: i want it to not happen
dtracers#9598: No
Sciguymjm#5935: hell yeah. thats two this week alone https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/444662779236843540/unknown.png
Sciguymjm#5935: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/258751782929432576/444318775282761766/unknown.png
Sciguymjm#5935: also got this recently
Skyborg#0894: Next place, csgo overwatch
axelalex2#5793: Does someone want to play with me in the Universal Open Qualifiers EU?
twobackfromtheend#1471: it was like this for 30s. i didnt even know this was possible. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/445543696151085056/20180514120346_1.jpg
twobackfromtheend#1471: about a minute later a pair joined
axelalex2#5793: 2x C3 now, geez, i'm getting a lot better
Sciguymjm#5935: What do you think you improved in?
axelalex2#5793: consistency first of all |
axelalex2#5793: there was no special technique i trained
dtracers#9598: I need to train up my wall hits they are my weakest right now that actually effect my gameplay. But I got back to champ in standard
dtracers#9598: I also need to just sleep
Aliaenor#1443: I'm proud of y'all
hansmeier#9999: sq is so toxic ...
People playing solo and all in the whole game, then wondering why there was no chance ...
hansmeier#9999: uh and 9/10 but silver 3 ...
in standard I got ranked into p2
Sciguymjm#5935: anyone want to boost me to champ? im high dia 3
Sciguymjm#5935: /s
Sciguymjm#5935: actually just looking to play if anyone wants to
dtracers#9598: in 3s?
Sciguymjm#5935: 2s and 3s
dtracers#9598: what are you in 2s?
Sciguymjm#5935: and solo standard too |
dtracers#9598: im diamond 1
Sciguymjm#5935: diamond 3 div 4
dtracers#9598: i can probably get you to champ in 2s
Sciguymjm#5935: we can give it another try ;)
Sciguymjm#5935: im d3 in everything but solos
dtracers#9598: i made it to champ in 3s
dtracers#9598: and i slept pretty well
dtracers#9598: but ill need some warmup games
Sciguymjm#5935: oh good
dtracers#9598: also an hour 😛
dtracers#9598: till i can head home
Sciguymjm#5935: im not really concerned about getting it. if i dont its not a big deal, i just need to put hours in i think
dtracers#9598: @Edwin. is a good partner btw
dtracers#9598: but you need to play on eu servers
dtracers#9598: (which are better than east for me) |
ccman32#4022: lol i actually didnt play for like half a month
ccman32#4022: when is this season over?
axelalex2#5793: Late May
ccman32#4022: hm k
ccman32#4022: im still on gold reward :/
dtracers#9598: you can do it!
dtracers#9598: also can you beat rashbot?
ccman32#4022: nah, im far away from plat in everything rn
ccman32#4022: and unranked in everything except doubles
dtracers#9598: oh it would be cool if we had some people that could play against the bots and establish a rank for them
ccman32#4022: what do you mean establish a rank
dtracers#9598: well if we for example know your rank in game
dtracers#9598: but you lose to rashbot sometimes
dtracers#9598: then we know that rashbot is only slightly worse than you
dtracers#9598: then we can establish the rank of rashbot as if it was a player in game |
ccman32#4022: well, right now i'd probably lose
Skyborg#0894: @ccman32 I only have gold too, now I'm silver in everything, if you want we can try in the weekend
ccman32#4022: i find it funny how everyone says "only gold" or "only plat" while in fact thats better than 50% of all ranked players
ccman32#4022: not to mention the ones that dont even play ranked
ccman32#4022: and im not at home this weekend
Aliaenor#1443: I wonder if it's easier to build a better bot if you're higher ranked
ccman32#4022: if you're higher ranked? no
ccman32#4022: if you're a better player? yes
Aliaenor#1443: What's the difference
twobackfromtheend#1471: I'd actually say no it won't make a diff
twobackfromtheend#1471: so long as you're better than the bot you build
twobackfromtheend#1471: the same way giving grand champion positional advice to a silver won't do him good, you just gotta be able to figure out what the bot's limitations and how to improve them - which you can do as long as you're better than it
dtracers#9598: I think it actually depends. If a player mechanically sucks but Is tactical they can make a much better bot than the other way around
ccman32#4022: @Aliaenor you can get boosted to a higher rank :p
Aliaenor#1443: Good point |
Edwin.#7531: @dtracers thnx <3
Also not necessarily EU, but for us it turned out better than US-E
dtracers#9598: yes
dtracers#9598: idk why
dtracers#9598: also i can play if you want to for a little bit
Edwin.#7531: I gotta get to school ><
dtracers#9598: thats lame
Edwin.#7531: Would love to but can't today
Sprütz#2222: leaving a game during the ot replay doesnt net me a season reward win :reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee:
dtracers#9598: LOL
dtracers#9598: that sucks
Sprütz#2222: wait nvm it works
Sprütz#2222: the win just only gets added on the next time you win
ccman32#4022: lol got from gold to plat reward with not even 1 lose
ccman32#4022: wtf |
dtracers#9598: Yayyyyyy
Sprütz#2222: i went on a nice lose streak today
Aliaenor#1443: Wish I could help you 😦
Sprütz#2222: noice gold rewards
Aliaenor#1443: Back in the dayyyy..... when I was a whippersnapper like you, I used to be pretty alright at RL
JadedLeaf#8963: i'm a lowly bronze player
JadedLeaf#8963: right @Aliaenor
JadedLeaf#8963: ?
Aliaenor#1443: Yeah scrub
Aliaenor#1443: Get out of town
Aliaenor#1443: You masochist
JadedLeaf#8963: carry me to gc
JadedLeaf#8963: i succ
Aliaenor#1443: Hold on lemme code a bot RL quick
Aliaenor#1443: Ez partner all problems solved |
JadedLeaf#8963: ez
JadedLeaf#8963: thanks
JadedLeaf#8963: i can play 2s with a self coded bot
JadedLeaf#8963: so i don't need to play with shitters anymore
JadedLeaf#8963: poggers
JadedLeaf#8963: top 100 here i come
JadedLeaf#8963: 1551 by myself
JadedLeaf#8963: 1900 with bot
JadedLeaf#8963: esketit
Aliaenor#1443: Yeah imagine having your own personal squishy muffinz
Aliaenor#1443: Which automatically signs profiles as people ask 😂 😂
JadedLeaf#8963: i mean, i'll have a full team of personal squishy muffinz
JadedLeaf#8963: ez rlrs
JadedLeaf#8963: ez rlcs
JadedLeaf#8963: they'll be like team squishy come to your pcs please |
Aliaenor#1443: Squishy 1 through 3
JadedLeaf#8963: and then a bunch of usbs will come out with me holding them
JadedLeaf#8963: ez
Aliaenor#1443: Lmao
JadedLeaf#8963: plug each of them in
JadedLeaf#8963: even has a self built in non emotion extension
JadedLeaf#8963: just like squishy
Aliaenor#1443: I thought those already came by default😂
JadedLeaf#8963: exactly
JadedLeaf#8963: shh
JadedLeaf#8963: don't let anyone know
JadedLeaf#8963: i can make it seem like i made that myself
Aliaenor#1443: Brilliant
GooseFairy#6680: hi
twobackfromtheend#1471: my signature move has lately been positioning myself well, missing an aerial i launch myself towards, then proceeding to hesitate on everything thereafter, making my good positioning bad. |
Aliaenor#1443: My signature move is rushing everything
Tangil#3830: My signature move has been not playing actively for like 3 months, coming back and being silver
GooseFairy#6680: o snap redox we need you to see if paul can beat you
GooseFairy#6680: xD
Tangil#3830: Dys
Aliaenor#1443: Lmao
Aliaenor#1443: I know people who like to 1v4 all star bots for practice
GooseFairy#6680: that's me
Aliaenor#1443: Yeet
GooseFairy#6680: sometimes I try to see how many goals I can get against an allstar 1v1
GooseFairy#6680: highest in a 5 min match is 48
GooseFairy#6680: xD
twobackfromtheend#1471: 1v4 all star bots is really bad imo, they completely suck at airplay, sometimes decide to steal all the boost, and sometimes inadvertently bump you and the ball rolls into the net. it's just a really high variance play with not much to learn for the human.
and good luck if the bots spawn 2 diagonal on kickoff.
Aliaenor#1443: I'm somewhat of a coach if y'all ever need help with replays etc |
Aliaenor#1443: Yeah that makes sense
GooseFairy#6680: 1v4 allstar is salt simulator 2018
GooseFairy#6680: xD
Aliaenor#1443: It's good for learning how to keep possession tho
Aliaenor#1443: Cause they'll just keep throwing themselves at you
GooseFairy#6680: I use them for practicing saves lol
GooseFairy#6680: https://gyazo.com/08df25d6687dd875ba75f26a8c4aa76e.gif
GooseFairy#6680: woah you can get promotions on a loss now?
dtracers#9598: if you leave the last game recently
GooseFairy#6680: leave the last game recently?
dtracers#9598: like if you leave early
dtracers#9598: like while the replay is happening in overtime
GooseFairy#6680: wat
GooseFairy#6680: well I didn't do that
GooseFairy#6680: I lost and got a promotion lol |
Tangil#3830: If you left the game early on the match before the loss match, it shows you the promotion on the next match (your loss match)
skoocda#6230: @Sciguymjm @dtracers we're all pretty closely ranked in 3s we should play some when i get back from dublin in a week
Sciguymjm#5935: Sure :^)
GooseFairy#6680: I never leave matches lol
GooseFairy#6680: so yea I randomly got a promotion on a loss
dtracers#9598: sure
dtracers#9598: ive been hovering around champ some weeks having it some weeks not
Sciguymjm#5935: I've been hovering around d3 div4 in solo standard which is apparently a feat in itself
dtracers#9598: that is impressive
dtracers#9598: i was there a while ago
Sciguymjm#5935: i want to die https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/447520074220175360/unknown.png
Sciguymjm#5935: and we still lost
Sciguymjm#5935: holy shit https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/447520136862236693/unknown.png
dtracers#9598: wow
Sciguymjm#5935: that shouldn't be allowed |
dtracers#9598: thats just not fair
dtracers#9598: they can just do unranked
Sciguymjm#5935: two games with a thrower on either team, one game with that bullshit, other games with people who seriously don't know how to rotate. why do i do this to myself
dtracers#9598: you can play with @Aliaenor and be the gold player
Sciguymjm#5935: i already know too many GCs who wont play with me for that reason lol
Sciguymjm#5935: wait wait, no this would be like that dude playing with a plat 3, not a gold 3
Sciguymjm#5935: gold 3 is two whole ranks down from champ, gc is one rank from champ
dtracers#9598: skill wise tho....
dtracers#9598: it is said 1k hours for champ
dtracers#9598: then 2k for gc
dtracers#9598: so maybe i should say bronze player 😛
Sciguymjm#5935: but skill isn't linear to time invested. thats not how it works
Sciguymjm#5935: have you played with a plat 3 lately
dtracers#9598: yeah they wrekt me in solo duel 😢
dtracers#9598: ill never get out of plat 2 in solos |
Sciguymjm#5935: the gold dude didn't know what a rotation was
Sciguymjm#5935: reminder i was the d3 on a team of two gcs for like 6 months before they found another gc ;-;
Tangil#3830: Oh I'm sure he knows what rotation is, he just doesn't care
Tangil#3830: I know cause I'm silver
Sciguymjm#5935: lol
Sciguymjm#5935: ok fair
Tangil#3830: And I was so close to plat
Aliaenor#1443: I got mentioned. Low chance I'll play over the summer cause work and school but I'll let ya know if I can 👌
Sprütz#2222: How do you play 1v4 vs all star bots?
Tangil#3830: With a controller or keyboard
Sprütz#2222: :facepalm:
Sprütz#2222: Theres a 1v4 option? I thought theres only a 1v2 unfair mode
twobackfromtheend#1471: unfair 2v2 is a 1v2. unfair 4v4 is a 1v4. you can change the normal XvX thing (which in unfair is 1vX)
Sprütz#2222: 👀
Sprütz#2222: Oh |
dtracers#9598: You can also use our bots
dtracers#9598: In an unfair match
Sprütz#2222: But when i join in on a 1v10 game all bots lose control
dtracers#9598: that makes sense
dtracers#9598: you can only have 10 palyers max
dtracers#9598: you need to specific the player index in the framework
dtracers#9598: it is made much more obvious in the v4 gui
Sprütz#2222: Oh ok
Edwin.#7531: Once it works 🎉
Edwin.#7531: I'm hoping it will soon
Tangil#3830: Soon ™
Tangil#3830: Can't wait for the GUI though
Edwin.#7531: Pressure ™
dtracers#9598: @Edwin. let me know if you want me to do another code review so we can get it merged in today! 😃
twobackfromtheend#1471: :rizzF: |
twobackfromtheend#1471: good luck!
Sprütz#2222: 5/10 wins away from diamond season rewards :MonkaMega:
Sprütz#2222: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/447930721433157632/unknown.png
Sprütz#2222: what does late may mean?
axelalex2#5793: more specific details to come, i guess
Edwin.#7531: Late may means that it'll be in the last week of may or so
Edwin.#7531: Although it wouldn't surprise me if late may becomes early June
twobackfromtheend#1471: nah i don't think they've been late with things like these.
Sprütz#2222: Doesnt matter. Got all the wins in now 😓
axelalex2#5793: gj
dtracers#9598: Congrats!
dtracers#9598: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/448135790678114324/unknown.png
dtracers#9598: 😃
gyfis#8295: thanks for being the cure
Tangil#3830: This channel's name makes sense now |
ccman32#4022: rofl
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/448541090895757312/20180522194145_1.jpg
axelalex2#5793: we only played the first kickoff, where i immidiately scored, because he fucked up https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/448881264662020106/2018-05-23-181236_4864x1440_scrot.png
Tangil#3830: My friends just started playing Rocket League all of the sudden so I'm finally gonna start playing for real again
Sprütz#2222: My friend also started... but he's on the switch 😦
Sprütz#2222: Gotta wait until july to be able to play online in a party together
Sprütz#2222: just lost my very first solo standard game
Sprütz#2222: lol
Sprütz#2222: and thats in b1
Sprütz#2222: :facepalm:
GooseFairy#6680: lol we need you to play against rashbot then
GooseFairy#6680: we want to know his skill level ;p
Sprütz#2222: im like every rank tho
GooseFairy#6680: o
Sprütz#2222: holy bronze players are bad |
Sprütz#2222: they all just cuddle up
Sprütz#2222: and miss all balls
Sprütz#2222: :shentowel:
Skyborg#0894: what rank are you normally?
Sprütz#2222: d2
Skyborg#0894: i'd ask you to join me, but i'd pull you down XD
Sprütz#2222: you can come in 3v3 😉
Skyborg#0894: what rank ?
Skyborg#0894: but sure, i'll go 😃
Sprütz#2222: im playing my placements
Sprütz#2222: so im bronze right now lol
Skyborg#0894: the new season hasnt begun yet right?
Sprütz#2222: nop
GooseFairy#6680: if you're use i'll play rn
GooseFairy#6680: lol |
Sprütz#2222: oh rip cant play solo 3's with 2 in the party 😦
Sprütz#2222: makes sense tbh
GooseFairy#6680: lol
Skyborg#0894: XD
Sprütz#2222: there are only ps4 players in bronze haha
Sprütz#2222: im not well received in bronze https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/449656740909154335/unknown.png
Sprütz#2222: everybody seriously thinks im hacking. dafuq
Edwin.#7531: aimbot in RL 🤔
Sprütz#2222: thats the technology every bot creator is looking for
Sprütz#2222: haha
GooseFairy#6680: lol aimbot is ez
GooseFairy#6680: strategy is the hard part
ccman32#4022: lol i made an rl aimbot before
ccman32#4022: its quite useless 😂
Skyborg#0894: actually aimbot is hard, i dont think there is any bot currently who predicts the contact with the ball and where it will go |
GooseFairy#6680: reliefbot does
GooseFairy#6680: and leaf
Skyborg#0894: really? whow, he's much more advanced that i thought
GooseFairy#6680: reliefbot is pretty nutty
GooseFairy#6680: again it all comes down to strategy now
GooseFairy#6680: strats is where it's at
Sprütz#2222: playing placements is like going in a time machine
Sprütz#2222: you see all these apes, then they evolve into apes that can use a controller and then finally humans
GooseFairy#6680: lol
GooseFairy#6680: what's your rank in solo standard?
Sprütz#2222: right now s
GooseFairy#6680: I think I'd like to see you play against rashbot 1v1
Sprütz#2222: thats where all the toxic people are
Sprütz#2222: i just suck in 1v1's :reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee:
GooseFairy#6680: yea you'd be a great test subject :P |
GooseFairy#6680: are you use or eu?
Sprütz#2222: eu
Sprütz#2222: 1v1 im around plat tho
Sprütz#2222: but sure
Sciguymjm#5935: just a reminder https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/449664106526539786/htsprl.png
GooseFairy#6680: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/449674202035912724/4d7b8d5ee51705c2378136b1c95b6bd7.png
GooseFairy#6680: solo queue cure
Sciguymjm#5935: Impressive. Your parents must be very proud
GooseFairy#6680: lol
GooseFairy#6680: it's always nice win with a bot teammate
GooseFairy#6680: it means on average one of the opponents is worse than the bot ;p
Sciguymjm#5935: what rank was this
GooseFairy#6680: lol this was just casual
GooseFairy#6680: I'm d1 tho
Sciguymjm#5935: oh ok |
GooseFairy#6680: if I had to guess, they were probably high plat or diamond
GooseFairy#6680: they had some silly misses tho
GooseFairy#6680: they were doing ceiling shots against my bot :(
Sprütz#2222: 3v3 plat is suddenly so hard to play lol
Sprütz#2222: everybody just tries to hit the ball
Sciguymjm#5935: oh yeah that carries all the way through early champ, just with slightly better mechanics
Sprütz#2222: nah i mean everybody just tries to hit the ball
Sprütz#2222: no fucks where it is or who else on their team is trying to shoot
Sciguymjm#5935: *yeah that carries all the way through early champ, just with slightly better mechanics*
Sprütz#2222: if the cant hit the ball, they hit the player instead
Sciguymjm#5935: seriously, it does
Sprütz#2222: not as much tho
Sprütz#2222: or is that just a 3v3 thing?
Sciguymjm#5935: i never said as much, but it still happens. people are dumb
Sprütz#2222: ye i know it happens in d2 where im at but not to this extent :reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee: |
Sciguymjm#5935: attempt #1536243 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/449713654858907651/unknown.png
Sciguymjm#5935: LETS GO https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/449724363181260801/unknown.png
axelalex2#5793: gj, now get that reward
Skyborg#0894: Here's my steam account username, password and authenticator, now do the same
axelalex2#5793: Got to go for the golden banner :3
Sciguymjm#5935: i played the same two c2's with the same two teammates on my team and lost twice in a row, back to d3
Sciguymjm#5935: what the fuck is that shit
Sciguymjm#5935: why did it pair me up twice with the same teams
axelalex2#5793: EU?
Sciguymjm#5935: US
Sciguymjm#5935: prime time
axelalex2#5793: 🤔
Sciguymjm#5935: i dont need the reward tbh, the banners kinda suck. i just wanted to get champ this season :D
axelalex2#5793: well, you succeeded then ^^
Sciguymjm#5935: haha yes |
drssoccer55#6192: I played only my 10 placement matches and got semi-carried so I took my rank and stopped :)
drssoccer55#6192: Plat 2. I think I was plat 1 last season but I took a long hiatus so I am not completely at my best yet.
twobackfromtheend#1471: i feel like i got to champ and went on to get my rewards playing far from my best - was extremely rusty and hesitant, but i generally managed to get carried.
twobackfromtheend#1471: decided to stop for a while - but that meant queuing only duos/solo 3's when i liked 3's the best, so after a while i continued playing and voila, i went back to diamond, champ rewards gotten and everything.
gyfis#8295: for those of you who are diamand+ - what you did to get from plat to diamand?
dtracers#9598: Training packs
GooseFairy#6680: I started landing 1 out of 10 wall touches
dtracers#9598: For me it was making better passes off the back wall
dtracers#9598: But that didn't work solo queue.
Sciguymjm#5935: also in general playing faster. going for hits faster than opponents, etc. but you have to be able to hit them in the first place. so training packs
Sciguymjm#5935: not necessarily *moving* faster, but reacting faster
gyfis#8295: training packs... 🤔
gyfis#8295: sounds like a better way forward than the occasional hoops I play, thanks!
dtracers#9598: Yeah
dtracers#9598: Hoops helps getting diamond 2 |
dtracers#9598: To diamond 3
GooseFairy#6680: Lol
GooseFairy#6680: I haven't played other game modes in so long lol
twobackfromtheend#1471: i haven't played other game modes too. from plat to diamond i think i just played much faster, going for high % plays even if they don't work out directly for me (ie taking hard shots that tend to bounce off the backboard and turn into passes). i think it was around the time i started to really hit aerials - ie getting good, directed hits on aerials rather than just trying to get a touch on the ball. even now the all-star aerial training is a really good warmup imo. trying to get good hard shots from that isn't as easy as it seems. and that really translates well into games where there are plenty of such balls (nice, slow, high balls that are ripe for passing/shooting instead of hitting in the general direction of the opponent's side)
axelalex2#5793: fast aerials
GooseFairy#6680: https://gyazo.com/8310be79e34d3ed3c92cc562597e4ca5.gif
GooseFairy#6680: nobody skipped the instant replay
gyfis#8295: kinda bummed by the fact that the action happened between frames there
GooseFairy#6680: I can fix that
GooseFairy#6680: https://gyazo.com/84b4a750d8a11a81b164f7c8dbb2ac77.gif
gyfis#8295: wow
gyfis#8295: nice
GooseFairy#6680: opponents are just teammates that are just really bad at passing ☑
Sciguymjm#5935: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/450029177517637662/2018-05-26_16-14-37.mp4
chip#7643: I said a prayer to the wall-to-air-dribble gods |
chip#7643: https://gfycat.com/WhichWideHarborporpoise
chip#7643: and they heard me
Sciguymjm#5935: dang, nice
Sciguymjm#5935: solo 2s? 🤔 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/450082393156616219/RocketLeague_2018-05-26_19-46-24.png
Sciguymjm#5935: one from each team left
Sciguymjm#5935: (its solo standard)
GooseFairy#6680: lol
ccman32#4022: this game needs like a goal protection that locks all goals for the first 5-10sec
ccman32#4022: 4:0, 30sec left
ccman32#4022: and that guy scores 5 fucking kickoff goals in the last 30sec and wins
twobackfromtheend#1471: well the idea behind rocket league is that you generally are the goal protection that prevents goals
ccman32#4022: thats just a bit difficult when the ball randomly glitches through you during kickoffs and somehow ends up in your goal
ccman32#4022: is it now the newest trend in RL to have players naming themselves like "Mr. Bump!" or "~Demolish" driving around doing nothing but bumping into other players?
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/450417896296939520/20180527235329_1.jpg
ccman32#4022: 3rd match this happens, just during this evening 🤦 |
Sciguymjm#5935: who i play against in solo standard 😠 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/450482593607974913/unknown.png
dtracers#9598: Wow you made it to champ again congrats!!!
Sciguymjm#5935: not me.
Sciguymjm#5935: im in d3 for both 2s and 3s
Sciguymjm#5935: my teammates lose 90% of the 50/50s (not even joking, i counted) consistently and then the only time I win is when I flawlessly mop up after them
Sciguymjm#5935: it makes me lose interest in playing the game
Sciguymjm#5935: regular 3s and 2s are fine
Sciguymjm#5935: its something about solo standard that either 1. draws the idiots or 2. turns everyone into an idiot ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Corby#3854: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/450604074513989634/Fuq8Ed4.jpg
Skyborg#0894: I should be Platinum, I'll just say my last 150 hours are working o the bot 😂
twobackfromtheend#1471: i think i have 1.2k hours lol. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/450614215162593290/unknown.png
twobackfromtheend#1471: and @Sciguymjm i mean i'm high diamond/champ in standard/duos, but my solo standard rank has just been going down. (and i only solo-queue)
Skyborg#0894: What's that website? ^^
twobackfromtheend#1471: rocketleaguestats.com. it's in the bottom left of the image 😛
Skyborg#0894: Thank you, there are a dozen websites and I never remember which one is the best |
twobackfromtheend#1471: idk either. i have that and rltracker bookmarked.
ccman32#4022: 144hrs for bronze 2? Yeah sure....
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/450622557540843520/Screenshot_2018-05-28-13-32-30-842_org.mozilla.firefox.png
ccman32#4022: doubles ftw
ccman32#4022: you can see the losing streaks in the damn graphs
gyfis#8295: based on the hours posted above I should be diamond, but I'm still between gold/plat, so that means there's someone with bronze/silver amount of hours that is also in gold/plat to average the number of hours, right?
Skyborg#0894: Or just a poor silver who thinks saying he's diamond in the poll makes him better
ccman32#4022: well, ~650h and gold/plat
Skyborg#0894: 500 and never play, only high gold
ccman32#4022: i dont really think this is a good skill indicator at all
ccman32#4022: i've easily won against diamond players and also lost like 5:0 against gold 1, all in the same season
ccman32#4022: its just so hard to actually rank up even when you became significantly better
gyfis#8295: thanks that makes me feel better 😄
gyfis#8295: yeah it is hard to rank up..
gyfis#8295: I was thinking I could maybe touch diamond in standard in the season that's coming, but ... probably not |
ccman32#4022: it also constantly feels like you need way more wins to rank up than loses to rank down
ccman32#4022: i think its also teammates pulling you down when you play doubles or standard in comp
ccman32#4022: i am already mvp in almost all matches i play and still almost dont rank up at all
Sciguymjm#5935: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/450692611615883285/unknown.png
Sciguymjm#5935: my solo standard looks like a plane crashing
dtracers#9598: You were very close with standard
Sciguymjm#5935: I did hit champ, but it doesnt track that fast
Sciguymjm#5935: personally i dont really care. im already "ahead" of the curve at like 750 hrs so i have plenty of time to "make it up"
Sciguymjm#5935: of course it really means nothing timewise
dtracers#9598: I was ahead but then I started working on bots and got way behind
dtracers#9598: Mostly bc I was spending less consecutive time practicing
Sciguymjm#5935: once again https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/450704348750807070/unknown.png
Sciguymjm#5935: who i play against in solo standard
Sciguymjm#5935: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/450713308803366924/unknown.png
ccman32#4022: unbelievable |
ccman32#4022: i just had an actually good team in solo standard
ccman32#4022: 😂
Sciguymjm#5935: https://giphy.com/gifs/police-francisco-among-I5xVnGJRHZZf2
Sciguymjm#5935: 🤦 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/451124694108864517/unknown.png
GooseFairy#6680: tfw sci and I randomly get paired
GooseFairy#6680: 11/10
dtracers#9598: Who won
Sciguymjm#5935: "randomly" shhh
Sciguymjm#5935: Nobody tell him
Tangil#3830: 5/7
Corby#3854: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/451175476627636225/unknown_3.png
Tangil#3830: Yo what
Tangil#3830: How did you change the map
Tangil#3830: I haven't gone on the new update yet
Corby#3854: Okay, that's a spoiler |
Corby#3854: That's the new default map
Tangil#3830: Oh nice
Tangil#3830: I was hoping the beach map would've been something for a volleyball gamemode that was found hidden in the game files but this is still cool
Corby#3854: Do you know what Psyonix said about volleyball?
Corby#3854: ```We tested Volleyball internally and it wasn't very fun.
Imagine what volleyball would really be in this game: Players having to hit aerials over and over and over again. Every time a point is scored (when the ball hits the ground) the field resets, similar to when a goal is scored.
Players at lower ranks may not be able to hit aerials consistently, and the constant stop in play would make for really slow rounds.
All of this = why we went with Dropshot.```
https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeague/comments/8lb612/salty_shores_update_rocket_league_hits_the_beach/dze8ir2/
twobackfromtheend#1471: there is or was a volleyball mode in game that could be accessed with mods. saw Yemen play it on stream once.
Sciguymjm#5935: custom map |
ccman32#4022: im currently playing against plat in solo standard
ccman32#4022: lol wat
Skyborg#0894: I ended up silver 😂 feels bad man
You'll make it champ this season!
ccman32#4022: i won the first 7 unranked matches lol
dtracers#9598: nice!
ccman32#4022: only losing now tho
ccman32#4022: i guess i need 1 or 2 more wins to get plat
ccman32#4022: won 1
ccman32#4022: but ranked in gold 3 div 3 >.<
ccman32#4022: xD
ccman32#4022: its so close xD
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/451749985126711307/20180531161245_1.jpg
Edwin.#7531: gl
Tangil#3830: this would be the point where i spiral into silver |
ccman32#4022: lol i dont really mind too much
ccman32#4022: this is solo standard lol
ccman32#4022: dude in these 10 unranked matches alone i had 4 last second goals
ccman32#4022: and 2 more in the last 2 games
ccman32#4022: this cant be normal
Sciguymjm#5935: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/451766285420724234/5us1qawzn6111.jpg
ccman32#4022: is it known how ranking in works?
ccman32#4022: like when I have by far the most points in all teams but my team loses because my teammates are scoring own goals, will that rank me down?
Tangil#3830: You may be squishy muffins but if you take a loss, it ranks you down
Tangil#3830: The system doesn't care about how many points you have or how many goals you won/lost by. It just cares if you won or not
dtracers#9598: @Tangil i think it does take into account goals and points within a team
dtracers#9598: when applying win
dtracers#9598: to prevent carrying
dtracers#9598: but it does not do it for losses
Tangil#3830: I remember something on Reddit saying it only cared for the outcome |
Tangil#3830: Maybe I'm misremembering
ccman32#4022: hm thats dumb then
ccman32#4022: i just lost 3 matches in a row due to teammates going afk or scoring owngoals
dtracers#9598: i think that they have done both
dtracers#9598: they have changed lots of things over time
twobackfromtheend#1471: I'm pretty sure it's only win/loss that affects mmr
ccman32#4022: it feels the same to me, but it still sucks if thats the case
Skyborg#0894: When I started playing competitive I started with a friend, we always played together, our ranks were always the same, and shifted at the same time
dtracers#9598: when i played with a friend though it was 2 seasons ago
dtracers#9598: he would always have much more points than me
dtracers#9598: just due to play style
dtracers#9598: and over a session would end up a couple divisions ahead of me
Tangil#3830: When I played with a friend
Tangil#3830: We did 2v2s
Deleted User 5e16192f#7093: i play occasionally and was gold 1, but i do suck, my keyboard was $3.99... and my gpu died, but anyone wanna play anyway? :D just resetted my pc from RAT |
axelalex2#5793: 1v1 is painful
GooseFairy#6680: Get gud
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/452156091996831746/20180601190611_1.jpg
ccman32#4022: 👍
Skyborg#0894: Wow, congrats! If you think it's getting easy and need a challenge hit me up 😂, I'll make it much harder for you
ccman32#4022: 😉
twobackfromtheend#1471: there's something about solo standard
twobackfromtheend#1471: i go from carrying high level diamond/low champ in 2's and standard to being carried in platinum solo standard
twobackfromtheend#1471: it might be the intermittent heart attacks
twobackfromtheend#1471: who needs outdoors high-octane adrenaline-filled adventure sports when you can have solo standard
ccman32#4022: yeah that mode is messed up
twobackfromtheend#1471: anyway here's what i wanted to record a gif of. the keyframe (or rather the goal before it) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/452247790391787520/ADD133484DAF5A10BF45F68487AB8974.replay
twobackfromtheend#1471: even thought up the line "that's where i went 'i'm one with the ball, the ball is with me; i'm one with the ball, the ball is with me" for the little pause i did before going up (if anyone cares 😦 )
skoocda#6230: I think everyone has a lower solo standard rank because the playlist population is so low
skoocda#6230: And the only people who play it consistently are masochists |
dtracers#9598: i love it
dtracers#9598: favorite mode
skoocda#6230: Yeah me too lol
Silh#0320: Losing a 3v2 in solo standard because my teammates keep on chasing down the ball after taking a shot where I *could* have had a shot on a wide open net on the rebound, except they wanted to hit it back towards our own net instead...
Silh#0320: *sigh*
Sprütz#2222: 2v2 is my favorite
Sprütz#2222: 3's are the ranks i just randomly play and 1's... :oof:
ccman32#4022: is it normal lately to get life threatened and have people say shit about your mother when missing a shot in RL?
ccman32#4022: It's so bad lately I don't even know anymore
GooseFairy#6680: never happened to me :/
dtracers#9598: It has never happened to me before
ccman32#4022: I'm reporting people on a hourly basis at this point :/
ccman32#4022: wth
dtracers#9598: I don't have these issues
ccman32#4022: maybe I'm ranked to low or sth? I dont get it |
dtracers#9598: Most likely
ccman32#4022: well its actually plat 1 - 2 right now
dtracers#9598: That's a pretty decent rank
ccman32#4022: :p
dtracers#9598: It could be that Europeans are just toxic
ccman32#4022: nah
ccman32#4022: now im playing europe competitive and get a teammate with 150+ ping lagging like shit and ending up with < 100 points
ccman32#4022: ?!
ccman32#4022: i should probably call it a day
ccman32#4022: this is awful
dtracers#9598: That's an American
Silh#0320: @ccman32 I've got chat (including quickchat) disabled. I deal with enough stuff during the day (work with the public) that I really don't care to hear anything more when I'm at home trying to relax. Even if it does missing out on the good communication that does happen once in a while.
Tangil#3830: ^^^^^^
Tangil#3830: If it gets this bad, disable chat completely
Tangil#3830: If you play 2s, it'll get hard to communicate kickoffs, so maybe keep your own quick chat on so you can say that you got it, or the other person should take the shot |
Tangil#3830: But don't enable it for the other people
Tangil#3830: This way only you see your quick chats, but your teammate can also see your quick chats even if you can't see theirs
twobackfromtheend#1471: where i finished last season https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/453210632934785034/unknown.png
twobackfromtheend#1471: 31 games later https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/453210715336212482/unknown.png
Simp#8258: im low rank but i dont find much toxicity on european servers? only few times and it mostly boils down to the opponent shouting luck over and over thats about it
Simp#8258: also mostly whenever theres 150+ ping on eu ist probly us or australian player
Tangil#3830: yeah i'm gold so i'm pretty low but i don't see much toxicity
ccman32#4022: this is slowly becoming my welcome screen of the game every day 😃
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/453605575654244373/20180605190528_1.jpg
dtracers#9598: That's great!
dtracers#9598: Removing the toxic race
twobackfromtheend#1471: dtracers is a supporter of genocide confirmed
Sciguymjm#5935: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/453629989540200449/8glwctt3x5211.png
ccman32#4022: almost ranked in silver in 1v1
ccman32#4022: wth lol |
ccman32#4022: how is solo standard such an EVIL mode
ccman32#4022: 1 match before plat and now not even 1 goal for an entire hour
ccman32#4022: wtf?
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/454767581719691274/unknown.png
dtracers#9598: did you look at saves
Tangil#3830: This means your defence was bad
dtracers#9598: they had a lot of saves
Tangil#3830: They have a lot of saves compared to 1 from your entire team
Tangil#3830: They had a good defence
ccman32#4022: this is mid gold
ccman32#4022: a defence like this just doesnt exist in gold
Tangil#3830: They didn't need many shots or a particularly fantastic offence because their defence more than made up for it
Tangil#3830: If you're saying they didn't have great defence, it means your offence was not good at all
ccman32#4022: they did not have any offence
Tangil#3830: Did you always hit it directly at the opponent |
ccman32#4022: 95% of the match was in front of their own goal
Tangil#3830: Ok but how was your offence
ccman32#4022: never hitting the goal, as you can tell
Tangil#3830: ;p then you know your targets
ccman32#4022: cool, my game just crashed
ccman32#4022: -.-
ccman32#4022: let me guess, that gives me a lose anyway?
ccman32#4022: lol
ccman32#4022: team just won 2v3
ccman32#4022: 😂
twobackfromtheend#1471: what even is that insult https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/455829185227653120/20180611211821_1.jpg
dtracers#9598: maybe he recognized you worked on bots
dtracers#9598: and was trying to compliment
Skyborg#0894: He found your desgise !
dtracers#9598: honestly you should remember that name and message him in a year and be like I was a bot and my bot is better than you |
Skyborg#0894: Pin your message so we can find it later 😂
dtracers#9598: Pinned a message.
axelalex2#5793: 50 points after 3 minutes, so bots are better than him 🤔
dtracers#9598: even crate farming bots do better
dtracers#9598: also @axelalex2 that was a different player than the insulter
axelalex2#5793: ah lul
axelalex2#5793: didn't realize it was unranked
axelalex2#5793: secured the champion rewards
Tangil#3830: very nice
axelalex2#5793: now, as i want 5 items from 4 different crates, i have to get really lucky with my decryptors
axelalex2#5793: xD
axelalex2#5793: do i really have to wait until the end screen of the game to gain Shells? it's driving me crazy
RamenAndVitamins#9999: i doubt it...other drops pop up on the main menu if you exit during the celebration
twobackfromtheend#1471: is someone going around telling people that the only way to defend is to demo attackers from the back?
twobackfromtheend#1471: in my last couple of games in solo standard it just feels like people are rotating from the 1 position to the 2. ad infinitum. |
RamenAndVitamins#9999: oh god, backchallenging is my #1 pet peeve right now
RamenAndVitamins#9999: just stay the fuck out of the play while rotating back! get boost and get to third, dammit!
twobackfromtheend#1471: I don't mind them demoing, I mind them never entering the defensive third.
RamenAndVitamins#9999: i don't like it unless it's the only option, because it disrupts the defender's challenge most of the time.
RamenAndVitamins#9999: if they accidentally bump instead of demo, it fucks us
RamenAndVitamins#9999: but yeah, never going to 3 is unforgivable. you can't just assume the challenge will succeed. usually it won't. but it'll disrupt the attacker enough for the next guy to pick up the pieces. unless there's no next guy. :NotLikeThis:
twobackfromtheend#1471: I don't get why the playstyle is so different. queuing standard I'm in champ, but people actually rotate and hit stuff. In diamond solo 3's... uh... half the people aren't even putting up the pretense that they know teammates exist
RamenAndVitamins#9999: i think a lot of people treat it as their dgaf queue
twobackfromtheend#1471: why pls.
RamenAndVitamins#9999: i don't understand it myself but from trolling r/rocketleague for years i'm convinced it's true
Tangil#3830: I treat it as my dgaf queue because everyone else treats it as such
Tangil#3830: And also because the quality of the games are much lower so I don't mind my rank in solo
skoocda#6230: ^ this is very true, I often use solo standard to warm up for standard because unranked is just useless all around
Sciguymjm#5935: :D https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/459506058579410945/unknown.png
Sciguymjm#5935: again! |
Sciguymjm#5935: im super stoked because i was always right below champ, for 2 years
Skyborg#0894: And here am I, gold for 4 seasons
Congrats! Now boost me 😂😜
skoocda#6230: RL anyone?
Sciguymjm#5935: If it was earlier, sure. But it's pretty late
skoocda#6230: Maybe this weekend?
Sciguymjm#5935: I'm home for a graduation but definitely next week
dtracers#9598: I can do this weekend @skoocda
ccman32#4022: getting closer to dia :p
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/462759127496654868/20180701011847_1.jpg
dtracers#9598: Nice!!!
Silh#0320: How ironic.
Silh#0320: Player is ballchasing like crazy, and their name is 'goalie'...
Tangil#3830: Ball chasing is the only way to play this game
Tangil#3830: Ball chase or gtfo |
dtracers#9598: omg
dtracers#9598: i was in a game and it was essentailly a 2v1
dtracers#9598: and i havea broken controlller
dtracers#9598: but they were mad bc i was ballchasing
dtracers#9598: and beating them
jeroen11dijk#1178: anyone wanna play (steam dia 3 (for atleast one more game) EU)
dtracers#9598: anyone wana play?
rhynolite#9437: 👋
dtracers#9598: oh wait nvm
dtracers#9598: LOl
dtracers#9598: i meant to send that to my steam friend
dtracers#9598: yeah we can play
dtracers#9598: nah he just got off
dtracers#9598: @rhynolite add me!
Bc my name here is the same as on steam 😃 |
Tangil#3830: dtracers just play-zoned rhynolite
twobackfromtheend#1471: what a player.
Sciguymjm#5935: anyone wana play?
Sciguymjm#5935: could be later too
Sciguymjm#5935: ~champ 1 level
Tangil#3830: I'm bronze 1 div 1 let's play
Sciguymjm#5935: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/470725812438695947/s7x59cg7tib11.png
Skyborg#0894: They should implement a system to stop forfeits. If a player starts a forget and gets denied, he should get a 5 minute ban. Although this might make the player play for the other team
Skyborg#0894: Or just quitt being that the ban is the same
Tangil#3830: That image makes me feel personally harassed
Tangil#3830: lol i played a total of 4 ranked matches during competitive season 7
jb#1663: @Tangil thats 4 too many
jb#1663: @Sciguymjm my work lets us out early today if you want to hit up some ranked when I'm done
jb#1663: i'm probably gonna finish tying in the match history to the player view to kill some time but if you're around later I'm down
Sciguymjm#5935: ye, anytime before 9 most likely. just ping me |
jb#1663: oh this isnt the saltie discord whoops
jb#1663: yeah ill msg you
Sciguymjm#5935: reeeeee
Noodleguitar#9857: Anyone interested in a few games? Champ 1-2, or casual any rank.
dtracers#9598: i would be but im at work :/
Noodleguitar#9857: They should just make 1 time zone for the world, I'm sure most of the world won't mind working in the dark 😃
dtracers#9598: yes
dtracers#9598: make it my time zone
Sciguymjm#5935: biggest score discrepancy i've seen this late in the game https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/474023243553177610/20180731211620_1.jpg
Sciguymjm#5935: literal definition of a carry, they couldn't even clear it for 20 pts
Sciguymjm#5935: it was terrible
Edwin.#7531: I like how the one with 30 points is below the one with 20
Noodleguitar#9857: I hope Psyonix does an update to the point system before or during their XP patch. So many strategic actions are not recognized, and saves are sometimes not even counted.
dtracers#9598: how do you count those?
dtracers#9598: well let me tell you. you make bots so good that they can think of that and then we convince psyonix to use our strats |
Noodleguitar#9857: Hehe. With multiple saves the game doesn't always detect all of them. And shots that would have bounced out are sometimes saves, but that's not a huge problem I think.
dtracers#9598: I think to calculate shots they make the goal bigger than it actually is
dtracers#9598: for speed
dtracers#9598: we do that too
Noodleguitar#9857: Ah yeah, makes sense
Noodleguitar#9857: I don't think the way they calculate in-game stats are very advanced. A pass is probably whichever on the scoring team touched the ball second to last in the last x seconds. First touches are obvious. Aerials are a bit weird because wall shots also count as one, maybe they use altitude (y-axis iirc?)
dtracers#9598: nah they probably just check to see if they are on the ground
Dispatch#7263: It can't be ground because low altitude aerials don't always register as aerials
Skyborg#0894: "low altitude aerial" a jump? XD
Dispatch#7263: Lol well like a double dump and short boost or a cross field low altitude sailing
twobackfromtheend#1471: I've made my own shot detection and honestly I don't think it's much better than psyonix's
twobackfromtheend#1471: psyonix's detection algorithms leave a lot to be wanted, but trying to code a better one is much easier said than done
alion02#1973: i imagine it to be trivial if one has access to ball prediction
twobackfromtheend#1471: I do use ball prediction
alion02#1973: hm |
alion02#1973: so is there some hidden catch with simply simulating a couple of seconds ahead every time the ball is touched and checking if the ball is in the goal?
alion02#1973: i mean dead-accurate ball prediction, something like chip's
twobackfromtheend#1471: I do use chips ball prediction
twobackfromtheend#1471: the catch is that a lot of those "just missed" shots are passes
twobackfromtheend#1471: and you can't really do anything about those
twobackfromtheend#1471: without knowledge of the players skill
dtracers#9598: @زيد
dtracers#9598: What is your question
dtracers#9598: @زيد what advice would you like?
I wouldn't consider myself super high level but I'm at least champ 1
ccman32#4022: wtf?
ccman32#4022: thats like top 1-2% on the entire world
Sciguymjm#5935: nah
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/475097726342660116/unknown.png
Sciguymjm#5935: what playlist is that |
ccman32#4022: https://www.esportstales.com/rocket-league/seasonal-rank-distribution-and-players-percentage-by-tier
twobackfromtheend#1471: top 1-2% of the world means about 10 million?
Sciguymjm#5935: lol literal
Sciguymjm#5935: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/475098001652842496/unknown.png
Sciguymjm#5935: solo standard champ 1 is top 1%
twobackfromtheend#1471: all these sources
Triz#7921: solo standard is fucked tho tbh
twobackfromtheend#1471: nicely named
twobackfromtheend#1471: and cited
Sciguymjm#5935: https://rocketleague.tracker.network/tracked-players
Sciguymjm#5935: bitch
Sciguymjm#5935: ;P
Sciguymjm#5935: solo standard is really bad
Triz#7921: i just cant find any games for it
Triz#7921: in c1 in oce |
Triz#7921: like there just arent enough people playing to queue for it 😦
twobackfromtheend#1471: https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeague/comments/7wgrm5/season_6_rank_distribution_data/
twobackfromtheend#1471: (Devon, 2018)
Sciguymjm#5935: *Devan
Face#7765: Devo`n
Face#7765: Devown
axelalex2#5793: @Brom @Aces and i are representing RLBot in the RLCS Open Qualifiers this season again. Is there any other team, who wants to give it a try? :)
Tangil#3830: WOOO You guys did really well last time, I'm sure you will do well this time too
axelalex2#5793: if my PC can handle it, i would also stream
ccman32#4022: does the game recently start randomly minimizing mid-game?!
Tangil#3830: no lol
ccman32#4022: jesus fuck this is annoying
ccman32#4022: i'll just stop playing
Tangil#3830: did you get bricktivated
Tangil#3830: you said you were gonna quit rl last year |
Tangil#3830: i think rl is bricktivated
ccman32#4022: this is like my 3rd or 4th match since 2 months lol
Tangil#3830: at this point i only open up rl because of rlbot
Tangil#3830: i played a total of 4 matches in competitive season 7
alion02#1973: i've basically stopped doing everything ever since i started bot dev ✅
alion02#1973: except for asciidots
Tangil#3830: but you started asciidots after bot dev
alion02#1973: well yes
Tangil#3830: i wonder if i would've stopped playing rocket league if i hadn't stumbled across rlbot
Tangil#3830: or if i would play more rocket league
dtracers#9598: I would be playing more
Face#7765: who wants me to carry them to diamond in ones
Face#7765: oh wait
Face#7765: it's ones
Mal#5601: me |
Mal#5601: I count as 0 players, you can carry me
Face#7765: Fair enough
Face#7765: But really
Face#7765: wanna dubs?
Face#7765: I'm champ-ish but diamond 2 in dubs
Face#7765: cuz rankdrops
Face#7765: FeelsBadMan
Mal#5601: I'm diam 2 but effort
Face#7765: Let's do it then
Face#7765: my steam is on my discord profile
Mal#5601: Nah I'll play tomorrow if ya want, I am watching netflix, I am in lazy mode
Face#7765: Netflix and actually chilling
Face#7765: lol
Mal#5601: hehehe
Fondle#4785: I'm silver 3 and gold 3 on my alts |
Fondle#4785: Champ 1 on main
Skyborg#0894: I'm between those 2 ranks . . . On my main
dgfgdfsgfds#0962: rip
dgfgdfsgfds#0962: i'm champ 1
Fondle#4785: Cool we can queue sometime then
ccman32#4022: lets play a match of solo standard and rage
axelalex2#5793: have fun
Fondle#4785: My friend is champ 1 in that playlist
Fondle#4785: He is champ 1 in standard also
ccman32#4022: what a wonder, i lost
ccman32#4022: champ 1 in solo standard, are you kidding?
Sciguymjm#5935: champ 1 in solos is around c3+ in standard
Noodleguitar#9857: Anybody up to queue?
ccman32#4022: god damn this was horrible
ccman32#4022: only in solo standard you get 2 enemy goals in the first 10 seconds and then a 3rd one shortly later when your own teammate bumps you while defending leaving an open goal to the enemy |
ccman32#4022: awesome 😃
ccman32#4022: gotta love watching this replay 😃
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/477211371067408424/A2749F1E45FE392D94014C9D94742B48.replay
Mal#5601: Lol me and one of my friends got bored ages ago and played comp without boost, if we used our boost, we would forfeit the game, I got an insane save where I bumped my friend and he hit the ball out just in time
ccman32#4022: xD
maxmin#4780: @Noodleguitar I was gonna say yes but your MMR is like 2.5x mine
Noodleguitar#9857: @maxmin Ah right, we could do casual too sometime
maxmin#4780: that'd be cool!
axelalex2#5793: about 80% of the random teammates i had to play with today only happened to wear the same colors as i did
dtracers#9598: For me it's 100%
If I'm on the orange team my teammates are orange too.
Same with blue team. 🤔 😬
Noodleguitar#9857: I ran into a random teammate in doubles a while ago claiming he was a GC. Before I could do anything wrong he started playing for the other team. Next game I got queued up with him again
Noodleguitar#9857: At least I got to report him twice, so that was nice
Mal#5601: lol |
Mal#5601: I'll be honest, nobody (not even me) had any clue what was happening when I took this shot https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/477546740279410698/AccurateOddGhostshrimp-size_restricted.gif
Mal#5601: Look at that minimal effort, I only used 14 boost xD
Face#7765: 15*
Face#7765: approximately 8% more than you thought you did
Face#7765: lel
Mal#5601: It's not my failt I can't read
Mal#5601: fault*
Face#7765: I'm memeing u fine
Face#7765: It's one of those moments when you just know you don't gotta do anything to score it
Face#7765: lel
Mal#5601: I mean for me, that is every goal (in my mind), I play in the moment, so I just run off reactions, it's great when I score, cause even I have no clue what happened
Mal#5601: It's great for the goals, but not great cause I have a crap reaction time
Mal#5601: I have a reaction time of 3 months 2 days and 1 millisecond
Mal#5601: Never higher, never lower
axelalex2#5793: i never had a game with that much open fire https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/477834424453562369/2018-08-11-154201_3712x1440_scrot.png |
Tangil#3830: Whew you carried
Brom#0758: 25 shots, lmao.
axelalex2#5793: got the feeling that i belong to C3, while i'm stuck in C2, because i outperform like 80% of my teammates
Noodleguitar#9857: Solo queueing in doubles is rough, you never know what you get
Brom#0758: Matchmaking isn't perfect.
Brom#0758: I suppose.
Tangil#3830: Understatement of the year
Silh#0320: @axelalex2 I've sorta come to the belief that the rank that you are capable at playing at is slightly higher than the rank you are placed at, which is as some people have put it, "the rank you are able to carry up to".
Silh#0320: (Which I don't exactly believe is a proper description, given the many different factors involved, but it sort of gets the idea across)
Silh#0320: Though I'm sure someone with some proper statistical rigor could probably disprove me. 😛
Brom#0758: I'm here to disprove you.
Brom#0758: Statistics show that 100% of Rocket League players are placed at least one tier below what their actual rank should be.
GooseFairy#6680: yea i'm suppposed to be grand champ but for some reason all my teamates are like silver 2
GooseFairy#6680: can confirm
Brom#0758: Statistics have actually also proven that is true for 100% of teammates. |
Brom#0758: Independent of other factors, teammates are always placed between two to four tiers higher than they should be according to their skill level.
Brom#0758: Also recent studies have shown that NASA has switched to Excel OS on all of their equipment.
Silh#0320: @Brom Er, you're sorta supporting my argument instead 😛
Brom#0758: Exactly.
Brom#0758: As I said, I was statistically improving your argument.
Brom#0758: Totally what I said.
axelalex2#5793: at the session i had earlier, i definitely played on grand champ level, not because of my mechanical skills, but because of my consistency; but again, teammates were so bad
axelalex2#5793: there will come a session, where i will rank up rapidly up to C3, and then i hopefully i can stay there
skoocda#6230: there are so many bayesian predictions needed in rocket league
skoocda#6230: where is the kick off going?
skoocda#6230: is my teammate going to steal the center boost I need?
skoocda#6230: on a scale of whiff to clanger, how hard is that shot going to be?
skoocda#6230: is my teammate also watching the universal open on twitch? should I assume they will miss when a goal is scored on stream?
skoocda#6230: is my teammate drinking enough water?
skoocda#6230: so many considerations! |
axelalex2#5793: i swear, all my teammates are pot smoking and drunk monkeys xD
Noodleguitar#9857: I had a champion 2 go AFK on me after I stole a goal from him 😃 And we were ahead in score
Mal#5601: I mean, you hurt his feelings, he was probably crying and you didn't care
Noodleguitar#9857: Might be my new record: 146 km/h goal
Mal#5601: My record is 3 days
Sciguymjm#5935: i encountered 3 separate solo smurf accounts today
Sciguymjm#5935: low hours, or private profiles. what gives
Tangil#3830: they're out to get you
Mal#5601: lol
Sciguymjm#5935: made it back to champ anyway, despite the smurfs
GooseFairy#6680: I played a few matches online yesterday
GooseFairy#6680: It's weird going from playing bots to playing humans lol
Yannoux#6969: also there is a new website interesting if you want to analyze your replays better https://ballchasing.com/
dtracers#9598: or you can go to
saltie.tk |
dtracers#9598: 😛
dtracers#9598: http://saltie.tk/
dtracers#9598: (still a work in progress)
dtracers#9598: actually @Yannoux would you be interested in helping us?
We are wanting to use models to generate some of our stats
Yannoux#6969: i will but you shall wait after the 23rd is passed
Yannoux#6969: i *may* *
Yannoux#6969: 😏
Yannoux#6969: i could only recomand you to train a critic from actor critic with replays separated from policy
Yannoux#6969: maybe ?
Yannoux#6969: can't help it but want a headless rocketleague working before anything else
dtracers#9598: Almost all of it would be a form of supervised learning.
dtracers#9598: for example
dtracers#9598: we train a model to look at shots and see if they scored
dtracers#9598: then we look at your replay and see if there were cases where you could have taken a shot but did not |
dtracers#9598: and if you should have taken a shot then
Yannoux#6969: it depends mainly on points of view. if you are way back in your camp when your team is getting aggressive then you are not helping => BAD, maybe
Yannoux#6969: it does not depend on the ball being somewhere and the player being elsewhere...
Yannoux#6969: in fact maybe scoring each player in replays to learn could be an idea
Yannoux#6969: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sciguymjm#5935: but there's an objective way to tell based on previous data. if someone took a shot there and it was successful, then you should have too
Sciguymjm#5935: etc..
dtracers#9598: and you do it over enough data and you have trends that a model can learn
Yannoux#6969: just grade every cars in every replays you have
dtracers#9598: i mean that is the plan
Yannoux#6969: 👍
dtracers#9598: I will ask again after the 23rd if you are interested in helping us 😃
Skyborg#0894: @tarehart how did the games went?
tarehart#6423: Not bad, I kept them alive until the real player showed up
tarehart#6423: They didn't win the tougher matches unfortunately |
Skyborg#0894: Oh, you were replacing a guy?
axelalex2#5793: RLBotters getting the Tactics down
https://gfycat.com/EagerBlackHeron
GooseFairy#6680: omg
GooseFairy#6680: next level strats put into action
Tangil#3830: Haha nice
Tangil#3830: Ez 1st place RLRS
Edwin.#7531: @axelalex2 how did the rlbotters do?
Brom#0758: @Edwin. we're still just practicing, the qualifiers we registered for are later this month.
axelalex2#5793: https://smash.gg/tournament/rlcs-season-6-eu/events/eu-open-qualifier-3/brackets/368921/708973
5 PM UTC+02:00
Skyborg#0894: GO RLBOTTERS!
Tangil#3830: WOO
Tangil#3830: will there be a stream?
GooseFairy#6680: Is that today?? |
axelalex2#5793: no stream, unfortunately; i tried yesterday, but then my ping swings between 40 and 80 every 3 seconds, which is annoying to play with
axelalex2#5793: but we try to save every replay and upload them to ballchasing.com then
Tangil#3830: nice
Tangil#3830: you guys are gonna rock
dtracers#9598: Good luck
dtracers#9598: If only we had an auto uploader so you didn't have to work to save right @Tangil ;)
:p
Tangil#3830: yes if only
Tangil#3830: im not in charge of uploading to the server btw
Tangil#3830: that's sci's job
dtracers#9598: @Sciguymjm I'm pretty sure crafted the end point already
axelalex2#5793: 1st opponent DQed
Edwin.#7531: ggez
Tangil#3830: haha nice
dtracers#9598: That happened to us so many times |
axelalex2#5793: Aces still not here :/ we really got lucky the first round, that they didn't show up, but second opponent is ready
axelalex2#5793: got DQed from the 2nd game
GooseFairy#6680: rip
dtracers#9598: Dang :(
dtracers#9598: Sorry to hear that
Tangil#3830: \:(
axelalex2#5793: Aces seems to be a workaholic
axelalex2#5793: means, we are out
axelalex2#5793: 2-2 in games, 0-0 in goals
dtracers#9598: Dang sorry if y'all need a backup next time you could grab @Edwin.
dtracers#9598: He's pretty good!
Brom#0758: Having a backup probably would have been a good idea in retrospect 😛
Edwin.#7531: I already found it weird that only 2 ppl were in call lol
axelalex2#5793: yeah, but we cannot register a backup for the upcoming qualifier
axelalex2#5793: next season we could give it a try |
Edwin.#7531: rip
dtracers#9598: https://www.rocketleague.com/news/progression-update-august-29/
dtracers#9598: Rlbot club?
axelalex2#5793: question is, if we can join multiple clubs
dtracers#9598: Oh this club would be bots only no humans
dtracers#9598: If you can't be in multiple that will be difficult for me to choose
axelalex2#5793: so bot creators you mean?
dtracers#9598: No.
I mean we will make steam accounts for the best bots and put them into a club.
Skyborg#0894: You would have to buy the game for those accounts
Sciguymjm#5935: totally worth
dtracers#9598: np we can crowd fund.
In fact forget that offline only rule our bots will top the ranks but it will be obvious they are bots bc they will be in the cool kids bots club! ;0
Skyborg#0894: If psyonix allowed us to do that with the top 3-6 of bots it would be awesome 😂😂
PuppyAuction#5291: Would be great if Psyonix made an official 'bot' ranked playlist and had some official API. First game to fully embrace bot competition. |
PuppyAuction#5291: Would turn into a continual kaggle competion basically
dtracers#9598: Blizzard already had one
dtracers#9598: With Star craft
dtracers#9598: But I don't think they are for the she purpose. There are already better than human Star craft bots
PuppyAuction#5291: did starcraft have a ranked bot playlist?
dtracers#9598: Hmm no
dtracers#9598: Not for playing against
Aalex#0832: > If only we had an auto uploader so you didn't have to work to save right @Tangil ;)
What is this? I saw you mention saltie.tk and I presume you're data hoarding, so what is this auto uploader?
Aalex#0832: @dtracers
Sciguymjm#5935: We may or may not be creating a replay analysis and aggregate data site for Rocket League
Sciguymjm#5935: The auto uploader is part of that (hooks into the game and sends the replays to the site)
Aalex#0832: If you have an auto uploader that works and does things silently, I would like to leave that running every time I play
Sciguymjm#5935: It works currently, but the site isn't in open beta yet
Sciguymjm#5935: If you're interested in helping test: https://discord.gg/aCHWD3E |
dtracers#9598: You can only join one club
dtracers#9598: But it is not associated with rank
dtracers#9598: Do it is now just going to be a visual thing it looks like
Aalex#0832: Is that message meant for me?
dtracers#9598: Which one?
skoocda#6230: @anyone wanna play some RL?
Sciguymjm#5935: ask me another day 👌
skoocda#6230: !remindme 4 hours ask sciguymjm to play rocket soccer
dtracers#9598: I have woken up from my second nap I can play
skoocda#6230: nice!
dtracers#9598: What rank are you again?
skoocda#6230: champ 1 in 2s rn
skoocda#6230: champ 3 in 3s
dtracers#9598: Cool same
skoocda#6230: nice |
skoocda#6230: my steam id is the same
dtracers#9598: Mine is too
dtracers#9598: My computer is turning on
dtracers#9598: invite sent
dtracers#9598: very successful series!
We won a bunch and lost 3?
ggs @skoocda
skoocda#6230: superb performance
skoocda#6230: wp @dtracers
PuppyAuction#5291: http://plays.tv/video/5b7ef4fda7e270d95c/what-the-hell-is-this-
PuppyAuction#5291: Gettin ready for that ranked dropshot
Skyborg#0894: Your bot will be op
PuppyAuction#5291: hahaha, teach it my drunk-master ways
axelalex2#5793: https://smash.gg/tournament/rlcs-season-6-eu/events/eu-open-qualifier-4/brackets/299478/688882
Aug 26, 2018 1:00 PM UTC+02:00 |
Luckily, if we lose, we go into Losers Round 2, not Losers Round 1
Sciguymjm#5935: That's a fake G2 right? They're not EU and wouldn't be playing quals anyway. But why is that allowed?
dtracers#9598: maybe this is what verified clubs are for
Brom#0758: Plus the bracket is actually group G2.
Brom#0758: Lmao.
Tangil#3830: appears legitimate https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/483184600479301642/unknown.png
Brom#0758: Lul.
Brom#0758: Man, we're such a group of scrubs.
Brom#0758: Should have named us RLBot Esports.
Brom#0758: Then they'd all be trembling in fear.
dtracers#9598: ya should have
Brom#0758: Projected outcomes say we get kicked out in Losers 4.
Brom#0758: Oh wait.
Brom#0758: This is complete bullshit.
Brom#0758: Projected outcomes has all the upper teams winning every time. |
dtracers#9598: watch it be true
Tangil#3830: dtracers confirmed to be rooting against RLBotters
Tangil#3830: top 10 anime betrayals
axelalex2#5793: !dtracers
RLBot#1485: The Anime Villain
Mal#5601: lol
twobackfromtheend#1471: dread it... run from it...
twobackfromtheend#1471: dtracers is still an anime villain
Edwin.#7531: Someone wanna play some games?
Brom#0758: I'm up.
Edwin.#7531: Are you EU?
Brom#0758: EU and currently a little boosted in doubles, lol.
Edwin.#7531: haha
Edwin.#7531: im currently d2 in doubles
Brom#0758: I'm D3 but boosted, so probably the same. |
Edwin.#7531: My steam should be on my profile
Brom#0758: Sorry, was having some network issues.
Edwin.#7531: np
Brom#0758: Invite me when you've accepted.
twobackfromtheend#1471: 3's?
Brom#0758: @axelalex2 you wanna join us?
axelalex2#5793: FIrst game today: 8:28 overtime
Tangil#3830: whew
axelalex2#5793: exciting matches so far, 2 DQs for the opponents
Edwin.#7531: ggwp
Tangil#3830: whew
Tangil#3830: haha RLBotters vs Technical Difficulties in the first match
Tangil#3830: the name was fitting for the opponents
axelalex2#5793: I knew one of the guys in the second opposing team pretty well, but a teammate of theirs couldn't attend, so they are out as well
Tangil#3830: projected results show that the DQ'd somehow beat you |
Tangil#3830: even though they're DQd
Tangil#3830: is hallo playing too?
Edwin.#7531: nah im not
Edwin.#7531: im bored, cannot do that much regarding state setting since ccman didnt push
axelalex2#5793: 0-1, 1-5
Tangil#3830: aw
Tangil#3830: you are going to win the next one
Tangil#3830: 🎉
twobackfromtheend#1471: aww
axelalex2#5793: and we are out
axelalex2#5793: 2-2 again
axelalex2#5793: only scored 2 goals, got scored on 13 times in total
Tangil#3830: rip
Tangil#3830: good run though
axelalex2#5793: not really. every win we got was a DQ |
Tangil#3830: RNGesus was on your side
Tangil#3830: take it as a sign of good fortune
axelalex2#5793: at least my MMR is rising again
axelalex2#5793: *jinx*
Tangil#3830: *drops to silver 1*
axelalex2#5793: from close to C3?
axelalex2#5793: ...
axelalex2#5793: ...
axelalex2#5793: yeah
axelalex2#5793: probably
Tangil#3830: how much money would someone need to give you for you to want to drop to bronze
kosta#2804: https://i.imgur.com/RSUIX57.jpg
kosta#2804: Gotta love playing 2v2
kosta#2804: I launched 2v2 casual btw
dtracers#9598: oops |
dtracers#9598: did you submit a bug feedback?
kosta#2804: I will do haha
kosta#2804: Where can i do that?
dtracers#9598: on their discor
dtracers#9598: i can do it for you if you want
dtracers#9598: or on reddit
kosta#2804: i will do
GooseFairy#6680: https://gyazo.com/16f3edb911695559c72a61ecad2d461a
GooseFairy#6680: looks like a bug with matchmaking lol
GooseFairy#6680: 3 v 4 and we got stuck with a bot
jeroen11dijk#1178: yeah, my brother played an 1v3 earlier
jeroen11dijk#1178: RL is broken
GooseFairy#6680: rip
jeroen11dijk#1178: Rocket league updates are always followed with shit bugs
jeroen11dijk#1178: last time we couldnt see our current division |
jeroen11dijk#1178: and now all teh physics are broken
GooseFairy#6680: I haven't noticed any physics issues
GooseFairy#6680: it looks like players are really getting mixed up tho
GooseFairy#6680: all the profile pics are shuffled lol
GooseFairy#6680: and it just crashed after a game finished
jeroen11dijk#1178: https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeague/comments/9bbzcr/open_letter_psyonix_if_you_want_to_keep_growing/?utm_content=title&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=RocketLeague
jeroen11dijk#1178: this really sums it up
jeroen11dijk#1178: I love Rocket League but somehow everything breaks every update
jeroen11dijk#1178: and the new features never get any support
axelalex2#5793: I have the feeling, that Psyonix needs the crates and the upcoming Rocket Pass to push eSports further. Unfortunately, they have a shit QA (like everybody says). If they want to have further money from me, they should implement an ingame-market, where i can buy all types of items for a fixed price. Opening crates depends on way too much luck, and for trading, there are so many retards out there, who overprice their items way too much.
Brom#0758: Psyonix should just look at LoL and do exactly the same things.
Brom#0758: Lmao.
Sciguymjm#5935: What, break the balance in every patch?
dtracers#9598: It sounded like their QA are just not people able to do mechanics like dribbles or stalls
dtracers#9598: And honestly you probably make more as a pro than QA |
Well a good one
Edwin.#7531: sum1 wanna play some games?
jeroen11dijk#1178: @Edwin. you are in EU right?
Edwin.#7531: dutch just like you
jeroen11dijk#1178: and what is your steam?
Edwin.#7531: its on my discord profile
jeroen11dijk#1178: @Edwin. are you still playing?
Edwin.#7531: I just quit
axelalex2#5793: "New Items unlocked: Decal" ?!
ccman32#4022: 😂
Brom#0758: What a bug!
ccman32#4022: "New Items unlocked: Octane!"
Edwin.#7531: Someone wanna play?
ccman32#4022: why do you rank down when teammates leave in ranked just when you are 1 goal behind and then you lose a 2v3 or even 1v3?!
Edwin.#7531: Cuz THIS is Rocket League |
Eastvillage#2628: rule 1: never ff!
Tangil#3830: no, rule 1 is never break a head to head
Eastvillage#2628: I did that today ... 😦
Eastvillage#2628: But I also had a 30 seconds stare contest with something, both of us just waiting for the other to move towards to ball and get out of position
Tangil#3830: wow almost like that mindgaming in the speedbots tournament
Tangil#3830: bots are mindgame 4d chess masters confirmed
ccman32#4022: did the ranking change somehow?
ccman32#4022: i lost 1 match got from div3 to 2
ccman32#4022: now i won 3 and am still in div 2
Edwin.#7531: Install bakkesmod to see if your MMR changed
ccman32#4022: why would i need bakkesmod to check such a basic thing
ccman32#4022: is there no other way?
dtracers#9598: there are tons of ways
dtracers#9598: https://rocketleague.tracker.network/
dtracers#9598: here is one way |
Edwin.#7531: But bakkesmod shows it ingame, which can be easier sometimes
ccman32#4022: did this actually just happen
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/485563553894498356/20180901233534_1.jpg
ccman32#4022: lol
GooseFairy#6680: gj
Mal#5601: You know you are playing top tier rocket league when at the end of a match, you have put the first 20 or so lines of the bee movie script in chat and are spinning on the back of your car
Mal#5601: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/478320448413761539/485569196042747934/unknown.png
jeroen11dijk#1178: people wanna play some unranked?
Skyborg#0894: Yeah!
Give me 5 minutes
Steam name is in my discord profile
Skyborg#0894: Gold btw
jeroen11dijk#1178: send an invite!
jeroen11dijk#1178: https://gfycat.com/VictoriousAdolescentAmericanrobin
jeroen11dijk#1178: me and @Skyborg are ready for the next RLCS |
Brom#0758: Wait what?
Brom#0758: I suddenly jumped up to level 210.
dtracers#9598: Yes they fixed levels
Brom#0758: Ahhh.
Brom#0758: Did they remove the soft conversion cap then?
Brom#0758: And what's the Elite Challenger title granted for?
jeroen11dijk#1178: yeah they did but people are still complaining since it looks like the new cap is just random
jeroen11dijk#1178: level 200 I think but dont quote me on it
Brom#0758: Hmm, could be, if that's not including post-conversion xp.
Tangil#3830: @r0bbi3 to half flip just bind a button to air roll left or air roll right, then backflip and immediately hold up while pressing air roll left/right
r0bbi3#0269: @Tangil do you actually have to bind that button, or can i just hold the regular air roll?
Tangil#3830: binding it makes it very easy
Tangil#3830: otherwise you'd have to do some thumbstick trickery
Skyborg#0894: if you do it correctly, just holding up should flip you upside
Mal#5601: I mean @Tangil I just use thumbstick trickery, I find it easier |
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