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thatubuntuguy#5914: dude @ShidoPixel i built a pc for the price of the cpu
taptapking#6216: go for an 1155 or 1150 system
JustinXenyx#8854: wait, your pc is 10 years old, isnt it? @ShidoPixel
thatubuntuguy#5914: £25
ShidoPixel#4650: yep
thatubuntuguy#5914: my pc was overpriced too
JustinXenyx#8854: then a core 2 duo definitely won't be a upgrade for you
JustinXenyx#8854: a core 2 duo is very much from that 2009 time frame
ShidoPixel#4650: it was 1000 10 y ago
ShidoPixel#4650: euros
JustinXenyx#8854: wait
JustinXenyx#8854: if you're in a european country, why the fuck would you make a partslist with US DOLLARS?
thatubuntuguy#5914: all this is completely wrong
taptapking#6216: 1000 euro back in 2009, you should have an core 2 quad
ShidoPixel#4650: cuz i wanted to fool you guys |
thatubuntuguy#5914: WHAT
JustinXenyx#8854: so, TL;DR, you're just wanting to waste our time?
ShidoPixel#4650: also its a laptop
thatubuntuguy#5914: hahaha so funny am i right
thatubuntuguy#5914: wasting our time
ShidoPixel#4650: srry
thatubuntuguy#5914: hahahahahahahah
thatubuntuguy#5914: hahaha
thatubuntuguy#5914: hilarious teehheehe
ShidoPixel#4650: actualy i wanted to buy it
ShidoPixel#4650: fool you twice
JustinXenyx#8854: @Deleted User could you warn this guy? he's not really taking this channel seriously at all
ShidoPixel#4650: ok
Deleted User#0000: whom
ShidoPixel#4650: sory |
thatubuntuguy#5914: @ShidoPixel this guy
JustinXenyx#8854: the man that is very unactive
thatubuntuguy#5914: wasted our time
Deleted User#0000: aight
taptapking#6216: basically this guy is trying to be dumb
thatubuntuguy#5914: then told us it was a joke
Dyno#3861: :dynoSuccess: ***shidoengie#4650 was muted***
Dyno#3861: :dynoError: shidoengie#4650 is already muted.
Dyno#3861: :dynoSuccess: ***shidoengie#4650 was unmuted***
ShidoPixel#4650: sorry´
Dyno#3861: :dynoSuccess: ***shidoengie#4650 was muted***
Deleted User#0000: there
Deleted User#0000: finally
Dyno#3861: :dynoSuccess: ***shidoengie#4650 has been warned.***
Deleted User#0000: on god my incompetence is showing |
TheGeekster#8508: *warm* people 😩 but yeah, ping all the mods if someone is doing things like that, we want to cut out time wasters like that
taptapking#6216: Is there any huge difference between 9800gt 75w and normal 9800gt?
taptapking#6216: i'm looking for an 75w version so I can install it to any systems
TheGeekster#8508: if it's limiting power, it'll probably run a little lower in performance, looking it up the 9800gt uses 105w ish, so it'll be gimped to some degree
thatubuntuguy#5914: 75 w is crippled
TheGeekster#8508: Just because a gpu is 75w, doesn't mean you can install in any system either, while the specs recommend a pciex16 slot deliver 75w, doesn't mean they all can
thatubuntuguy#5914: No overclovking potential
thatubuntuguy#5914: ^^
thatubuntuguy#5914: Some slots are 50w
taptapking#6216: so how to know if the slot delivers less than 75w?
taptapking#6216: I don't have any oem pcs, just custom builds
TheGeekster#8508: Motherboard specs and manuals, it's up to the manufacturer of the board
TheGeekster#8508: even non oem boards doesn't always adhere to specs, as they expect people to either have a gpu under 50w, or use pcie power
thatubuntuguy#5914: Tl Dr some boards big gay. Read the manual :OmegaxD:
taptapking#6216: should I cop the 75w version or just get the normal one? |
thatubuntuguy#5914: Normal
taptapking#6216: thanks
Deleted User#0000: lads i need more support
Deleted User#0000: but this is a thing that'll be done by the end of the year
Deleted User#0000: some lad i know wants to have a 24h stream at his ant shop
Deleted User#0000: like a logitech c920 setup
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Ant shop??
Deleted User#0000: would an old i3 ssf be good enough?
Deleted User#0000: yeah he sells ants
Deleted User#0000: tar heel ants
Deleted User#0000: and ant nesting stuffs
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Right and what's he want to do set up a pc so he can watch them?
Deleted User#0000: so he can stream to youtube or twitch or something
Jamie.Cullen#8363: First gen i3 should be grand pick it up fairly cheap
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Look at hamishes vid on sff pc for cheap |
MythologicalZ#3752: Outdated stuff
MythologicalZ#3752: 1st Gen lacks AVX,you'll struggle with streaming
MythologicalZ#3752: Rather get something Sandy bridge based
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Oh wait be actually wants to stream
MythologicalZ#3752: 2400 SFF+250 or something
Jamie.Cullen#8363: My bad
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I thought he meant watching streams
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Yeah at least second gen i5
Deleted User#0000: ah
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Sorry I'm literally on 4 hours of sleep today
Jamie.Cullen#8363: My Brain is fried
Deleted User#0000: so would a i5 2400 be enough?
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Yes
Deleted User#0000: awesome
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Does anyone want to help me set up my steam later actually |
Deleted User#0000: hang on the system i was looking at was an i3 4130 system
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I have that cpu with a 970
Deleted User#0000: would it be good enough?
MythologicalZ#3752: Eh
MythologicalZ#3752: You lose 2 more cores and gain some IPC on the 2400
MythologicalZ#3752: Imo,just get a 2400
JustinXenyx#8854: a decent i5 and a nvidia gpu for encoding should be decent for a little streaming box
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Wanna upgrade to an i5
Deleted User#0000: decent budget gpu?
MythologicalZ#3752: For NV, anything Maxwell and upwards
Deleted User#0000: this things literally only gonna be used to stream a webcam
JustinXenyx#8854: 750 Ti would be enough for that streaming box
Deleted User#0000: awesome
JustinXenyx#8854: finally, Nvidia themselves admitting that the performance gap between the 2060 and 2070 is abysmal :Hahahahaha: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/558714863438921788/nvidiageforcede_53923254_2096995883721472_3583770834641622005_n.jpg
HappySlappyFace#0441: Just tag me when you have an answer https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/558746225118150656/P_20190322_211909.jpg |
HappySlappyFace#0441: I'm pissed off
HappySlappyFace#0441: I just got my laptop back from repair
HappySlappyFace#0441: Had a fight with my big bro
HappySlappyFace#0441: So if u Fuck ing dick around ur blocked
Xènius#8267: How would one store some cpus they have laying around with pins?
HappySlappyFace#0441: Hard foam I think
HappySlappyFace#0441: Or plastic housings
Xènius#8267: I'll look those up
thatubuntuguy#5914: so not them clamshell things?
thatubuntuguy#5914: @HappySlappyFace it won't boot at all?
thatubuntuguy#5914: check your memory
thatubuntuguy#5914: memtest
thatubuntuguy#5914: if that doesn't work uhh maybe a sfc /scannow?
thatubuntuguy#5914: probably something corrupt in the install
thatubuntuguy#5914: affected by hardware change or something |
thatubuntuguy#5914: try memtest, chkdsk, sfc /scannow and win 10 auto repair
thatubuntuguy#5914: ping tech helpers if it doesn't work after that
HappySlappyFace#0441: @thatubuntuguy biots
HappySlappyFace#0441: Goes to windows
HappySlappyFace#0441: I can do stuff
HappySlappyFace#0441: And it just crashes randonly
thatubuntuguy#5914: sounds like memory issue
thatubuntuguy#5914: try memtest
HappySlappyFace#0441: It's not mem
thatubuntuguy#5914: ok then check hdd health
HappySlappyFace#0441: The ram can be filled
thatubuntuguy#5914: is hdd ok
HappySlappyFace#0441: And this crashed when it was at 40%
HappySlappyFace#0441: I'm sure yes
thatubuntuguy#5914: wait so it crashed when ram utilisation was 40% |
HappySlappyFace#0441: I don't K ow about the Hdd card
HappySlappyFace#0441: Yes
thatubuntuguy#5914: always?
thatubuntuguy#5914: have you run memtest
HappySlappyFace#0441: Asus laptops have this sister board between hdds and mobo
HappySlappyFace#0441: And its also responsible for the power ligbt
HappySlappyFace#0441: The power light doesn't work
HappySlappyFace#0441: Only Hdd light
thatubuntuguy#5914: well...
thatubuntuguy#5914: that's probably your issue??
HappySlappyFace#0441: Doubt
HappySlappyFace#0441: The pc boosts
HappySlappyFace#0441: Boots
thatubuntuguy#5914: the kernel error points to either memory or hdd error
thatubuntuguy#5914: i could be wrong |
thatubuntuguy#5914: i probably am
HappySlappyFace#0441: Explorer doesn't want to launch
HappySlappyFace#0441: Even tho Hdd has activity
thatubuntuguy#5914: try something.
thatubuntuguy#5914: boot a linux live disc
HappySlappyFace#0441: There
HappySlappyFace#0441: It started now
HappySlappyFace#0441: Explorer as in the entire windows guu
thatubuntuguy#5914: ohh right
HappySlappyFace#0441: Not explorer for files
thatubuntuguy#5914: taco try to boot a linux live usb
thatubuntuguy#5914: and see if you get any crashes with that
HappySlappyFace#0441: It opened now
HappySlappyFace#0441: I don't have time for ubuntu
HappySlappyFace#0441: I'm pissed off |
thatubuntuguy#5914: ok ok
HappySlappyFace#0441: I had a big fight with my bro
thatubuntuguy#5914: i know you're pissed i read your message
HappySlappyFace#0441: It crashed when when afterburner when running
HappySlappyFace#0441: No auto oc
HappySlappyFace#0441: I think I know why it crashed
HappySlappyFace#0441: Maybe because I touched the area near the hdd
HappySlappyFace#0441: Cuz its also the 3.5 place
HappySlappyFace#0441: Nd that didn't work at first
Haris Džinović#5160: (this is from yesterday but V.2): guys I switched to win 10 on my SSD but I switched again to win 7 on my HDD on what everything was on (my files etc.) and now I can see my games in my "steamlibrary" folder but on actual steam it says I need to install them again, help?
Haris Džinović#5160: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/558755326422286357/steamhelp1.JPG
Haris Džinović#5160: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/558755354326859895/steamhelp2.JPG
Poinapple Express#2170: yo
Poinapple Express#2170: someone help lol
Xènius#8267: Who |
Poinapple Express#2170: I mean i said someone so
Poinapple Express#2170: jesus
Xènius#8267: Meant help who
Xènius#8267: You?
Poinapple Express#2170: -_-
Poinapple Express#2170: well nuh.
Alcyone#2233: @Haris Džinović go here and add the folder with the game files in it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/558762586938802176/unknown.png
Poinapple Express#2170: I have a gtx 1070ti
Poinapple Express#2170: ryzen 7 1700x no oc
Poinapple Express#2170: 16gb 2400 mhz ram
Poinapple Express#2170: ^ i understand thats a problem
Poinapple Express#2170: and my gpu never goes over 50% and rust especially gets rly bad fps on lowest settings (60)
!Gerbs!#4897: hi guys
!Gerbs!#4897: i need serious help with my imac g3
Xènius#8267: Such as |
!Gerbs!#4897: trying to install mac os 9.2
!Gerbs!#4897: im on the cd rn but they're is no destination disk
!Gerbs!#4897: well it says there isnt one
!Gerbs!#4897: but i just replaced its hard drive
!Gerbs!#4897: so yeah
!Gerbs!#4897: where u go Chib?
Haris Džinović#5160: @Alcyone bruh its my all-time folder
Haris Džinović#5160: it just cant recognise I have them idk how
!Gerbs!#4897: do you have an answer for me?
Xènius#8267: No but it's usually a good idea to explain the problem
Alcyone#2233: @Haris Džinović if the folder is on the list, just click on the game. it will verify files and start with no downloading, except maybe cloud save data
!Gerbs!#4897: Alcyone, can you help me?
thatubuntuguy#5914: In the future ping people like this @thatubuntuguy
thatubuntuguy#5914: So they can see your message.
!Gerbs!#4897: ik ik |
thatubuntuguy#5914: @!Gerbs! So G3 won't recognise your hdd
!Gerbs!#4897: i thought he was still in chat
thatubuntuguy#5914: On macOS install
Haris Džinović#5160: @Alcyone dude I cant launch any game on steam
!Gerbs!#4897: yeah
Poinapple Express#2170: yikes i got ignored
thatubuntuguy#5914: @Poinapple Express when someone has a solution they'll contact you
thatubuntuguy#5914: chill
thatubuntuguy#5914: @!Gerbs! does the G3 have a hdd whitelist or something
!Gerbs!#4897: no
Haris Džinović#5160: @Alcyone btw anytime I double click on any game on the library the download screen just pops up
thatubuntuguy#5914: @!Gerbs! how big is the drive
!Gerbs!#4897: on install, it says: A valid destination volume can't be found. its 15 gigs
thatubuntuguy#5914: 15gb hdd
thatubuntuguy#5914: ok |
thatubuntuguy#5914: are you sure this hdd is working
!Gerbs!#4897: i knOW IT IS
!Gerbs!#4897: srry caps
!Gerbs!#4897: because the original maxtor apple hard drive didnt work, so when i booted from cd, it showed a floppy disk with a flashing question mark
!Gerbs!#4897: thats how i knew the old one didnt work
thatubuntuguy#5914: ok.
!Gerbs!#4897: so yeah
thatubuntuguy#5914: did you set the jumper correctly
!Gerbs!#4897: ?
thatubuntuguy#5914: what brand hdd
!Gerbs!#4897: the original was a maxtor. the new one is also a maxtor
thatubuntuguy#5914: ok
thatubuntuguy#5914: look at the drive
thatubuntuguy#5914: between ide connector and molex connector
thatubuntuguy#5914: there are 8 pins |
thatubuntuguy#5914: can u see the pins
!Gerbs!#4897: i mean i know what u talking bout
thatubuntuguy#5914: ok
!Gerbs!#4897: but i dont wanna take off shell
thatubuntuguy#5914: did you put the jumper in the master position
thatubuntuguy#5914: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/558766374676332545/Capture.PNG
!Gerbs!#4897: well, actually, it has 10 pins
!Gerbs!#4897: i think
!Gerbs!#4897: brb gonna take off shell
thatubuntuguy#5914: still same spot i think
!Gerbs!#4897: k
!Gerbs!#4897: it was in cable select
!Gerbs!#4897: lemme try it out
thatubuntuguy#5914: did it work?
!Gerbs!#4897: still starting up |
thatubuntuguy#5914: k
!Gerbs!#4897: no
!Gerbs!#4897: it didnt
thatubuntuguy#5914: ok
thatubuntuguy#5914: does it show in disk utility
!Gerbs!#4897: how do i get to that?
thatubuntuguy#5914: which osx 9.2 right
!Gerbs!#4897: mac os 9.2.1
Haris Džinović#5160: @Alcyone any more ideas
Haris Džinović#5160: ?
thatubuntuguy#5914: @!Gerbs! drive setup?
!Gerbs!#4897: ???
thatubuntuguy#5914: in the utilities area
thatubuntuguy#5914: there's a drive setup thing
!Gerbs!#4897: where is the utilities area? |
thatubuntuguy#5914: mac os 9 install menu
thatubuntuguy#5914: scroll down
thatubuntuguy#5914: bottom right corner
!Gerbs!#4897: im a dumbass
!Gerbs!#4897: i didnt even think about doing this
thatubuntuguy#5914: ok go to drive setup
thatubuntuguy#5914: select drive
thatubuntuguy#5914: initialise
thatubuntuguy#5914: that should fix it
!Gerbs!#4897: yeah
!Gerbs!#4897: ok thanks
!Gerbs!#4897: this should work now
!Gerbs!#4897: @thatubuntuguy So it was working, but when it was installing, it froze, crashed, and now when i turn on computer, it goes to grey screen
!Gerbs!#4897: i booted from cd, but it just showed a cursor
!Gerbs!#4897: u there? |
!Gerbs!#4897: @thatubuntuguy
!Gerbs!#4897: @Xènius can you help me in replacement?
!Gerbs!#4897: @Alcyone help plz
!Gerbs!#4897: anyone here?
TheGeekster#8508: this is mainly a uk server, and it's pretty late at night
TheGeekster#8508: and i have no idea about macs, soz
Lady Mipha#0611: It is basically midnight over in the uk so there would be less people on also I can’t help because don’t know that far back in os’s atm
wapted#6788: omg it is as well, lost track of time
Saturnity#8647: Sigh. What is this a sign of? This has gotten worse and worse as time passes. Used to never glitch out when I opened the game, just lightly while playing the game.
Failing ram module? It also likes to do something close to this when i'm normally browsing Youtube or something and will just black out and requires a restart of computer https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/558808341695168512/video-1553300480.mp4
Saturnity#8647: BUT sometimes in the game it did black out like this at time, so I don't know if it's slowly getting worse.. Or just.. Being dumb
Rysing Dragoon#5628: I got a question
Rysing Dragoon#5628: How do I convince my dad that a ryzen 3 is better than an fx-6300
Thomas Callaghan#6969: explain ipc and crap |
Thomas Callaghan#6969: show him actual benches
Alcyone#2233: power usage. new stuff is super efficient dad. it will be 25% faster while saving you money.
Evvy#0001: Oh jesus christ!
Evvy#0001: the default fan curve for the vega 56 is *truly awful*
Evvy#0001: I forgot to put my custom one on today and just found out it was idling at fucking 77 degrees
***idling at 77***
Evvy#0001: celsius
Evvy#0001: with my curve on, while playing games i can't even hear the fan and it only ever hit 55
Saturnity#8647: idling.. at 77?
Saturnity#8647: Jesus..
Evvy#0001: right?
MythologicalZ#3752: That's a shit temp
Evvy#0001: it's only taking ~1000 rpms to keep it under 35C on idle now
MythologicalZ#3752: That's not a fan issue, probably shit TP
MythologicalZ#3752: My V56 at default fan curves was like 38 |
Evvy#0001: hm
Evvy#0001: which brand ? blower model?
Evvy#0001: mine's a blower
MythologicalZ#3752: Yeah was a reference
Evvy#0001: well, either way the fan was basically off while it was at 77C
thatubuntuguy#5914: @Saturnity hey dude this looks like a dying gpu
thatubuntuguy#5914: Can you remove the GPU and use the igpu to confirm this?
thatubuntuguy#5914: If you are using an iGPU this could point to a bad ram module as the iGPU uses your system RAM to store video memory
SanteRaptor#2609: So umm
SanteRaptor#2609: Apparently Europa Universalis somehow uninstalled my graphics drivers
Lady Mipha#0611: F
Lady Mipha#0611: Oof
SussyBalls#4615: thank you EU4 very cool
SussyBalls#4615: how the hell did it manage
taptapking#6216: gts 450 ddr3 and gts 250 , which one is better? |
TheFifthAce#4128: 450 is obviously better?..
taptapking#6216: I mean ddr3 version
TheFifthAce#4128: isnt the 250 ddr3 as well
taptapking#6216: yeah but the 250 is 256 bit
TheFifthAce#4128: doesnt matter lol
taptapking#6216: the 450 is 128 bit
TheFifthAce#4128: its fermi anyways so
TheFifthAce#4128: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
TheFifthAce#4128: I wouldnt buy either one
TheFifthAce#4128: actually I think the 250 has better clocks on the same memory doesnt it
TheFifthAce#4128: its what 1000mhz instead of 902?
TheFifthAce#4128: whats the pricepoint, and country?
taptapking#6216: both gts 250 and gts 450 ddr3 are running for $13 in my country
TheFifthAce#4128: how much is an r5 240
taptapking#6216: I can't find it in my country |
TheFifthAce#4128: I'm like, mostly sure the 450 smacks the 250 around by at least a little bit
TheFifthAce#4128: @Rio
Rio#1000: yeah
TheFifthAce#4128: @taptapking yeah go for the 450
TheFifthAce#4128: fermi drivers arent great but theyre better than tesla, and the generational improvement means it smacks
taptapking#6216: the gts 450 ddr3 i'm talking about is the one that doesn't require 6 pin connector
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
taptapking#6216: I remember there's a lot gts 450s that requires 6 pin connector
TheFifthAce#4128: I dont know that much about older hardware
TheFifthAce#4128: ask rio or justin
SanteRaptor#2609: Lads
Ramiere#1840: Is there a difference between sdram and regular ram?
thatubuntuguy#5914: @taptapking gts 450 75w is crippled
thatubuntuguy#5914: it has a tdp of 100w
thatubuntuguy#5914: itll be gimped |
taptapking#6216: like how the 9800gt 75w is gimped?
thatubuntuguy#5914: ye
Poinapple Express#2170: can i have some help
thatubuntuguy#5914: go on @Poinapple Express
Poinapple Express#2170: Gtx 1070ti Ryzen 7 1700x 16gb 2400 mhz ram and my games run all like shit
thatubuntuguy#5914: Ok.
thatubuntuguy#5914: What do you mean by shit.
thatubuntuguy#5914: Bad framerates?
thatubuntuguy#5914: What OS @Poinapple Express
Jam#0384: @Poinapple Express Ryzen runs better on faster memory
Jam#0384: You’d want at least 3000Mhz, but preferably 3200Mhz or faster.
Jam#0384: That’s your
Jam#0384: Problem
JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce are you rarted?
JustinXenyx#8854: the gts 250 IS NOT fermi |
JustinXenyx#8854: Fermi was the 4/500 series
TheGeekster#8508: I'm just gonna say, I've got a Ryzen 1700, 1070, 32gb of DDR4 2400mhz ram, and my games don't run like shit, it's not the ram
TheFifthAce#4128: 450 is fermi
TheFifthAce#4128: :Thonk:
TheFifthAce#4128: I thought
JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce you right, thought of a different card series
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/559052999343865856/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: yea
TheFifthAce#4128: :Thonk:
TheFifthAce#4128: I said 450 is fermi and 250 is tesla
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx I also didnt say 250 is fermi
TheFifthAce#4128: I said it was tesla
TheFifthAce#4128: :Thonk:
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/559053539067035658/unknown.png
JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce i probably skipped over that lol |
Poinapple Express#2170: Okay so what do I do
Poinapple Express#2170: My games run awful
Poinapple Express#2170: GPUs usage is so bad
TheGeekster#8508: what games run awful? and what do you mean by run awful? low FPS? stuttering? slow loading?
thatubuntuguy#5914: @Poinapple Express msconfig cores disabled?
Poinapple Express#2170: basically
Poinapple Express#2170: gpu usage 50-60% 60fps stuttering
thatubuntuguy#5914: hm
thatubuntuguy#5914: windows 10 or 7
thatubuntuguy#5914: @Poinapple Express type into start menu msconfig
thatubuntuguy#5914: go to boot
thatubuntuguy#5914: advanced options
thatubuntuguy#5914: check cores
Poinapple Express#2170: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/559067539800588299/unknown.png
thatubuntuguy#5914: wait what!! |
thatubuntuguy#5914: it only shows 2?!
thatubuntuguy#5914: that's your issue
thatubuntuguy#5914: its a ryzen 7 right
Poinapple Express#2170: yeah
thatubuntuguy#5914: yeah something is messed up in your bios
thatubuntuguy#5914: do a cmos reset
Poinapple Express#2170: how
Poinapple Express#2170: i mean
thatubuntuguy#5914: idk have you upgraded the pc?
Poinapple Express#2170: ngl i thought something was wrong
Poinapple Express#2170: it double boots every time
thatubuntuguy#5914: is the pc upgraded
Poinapple Express#2170: I built it
thatubuntuguy#5914: or a fresh build
thatubuntuguy#5914: ok |
Poinapple Express#2170: i upgraded the ram
thatubuntuguy#5914: take the battery out of the board
TheFifthAce#4128: @thatubuntuguy ???
what are you even going on about
thatubuntuguy#5914: look at the msconfig
thatubuntuguy#5914: 1 core and its grayed out
TheFifthAce#4128: yes, so select it and choose 8?/
thatubuntuguy#5914: nvm im really dumb
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
TheFifthAce#4128: very dumb
thatubuntuguy#5914: ok 😭
thatubuntuguy#5914: i feel really dumb now
TheFifthAce#4128: @Poinapple Express click the checkbox and mouse it down to 8
Poinapple Express#2170: done
Poinapple Express#2170: what did that do |
TheFifthAce#4128: then click ok, then on boot hit "make all boot settings permanent" and hit apply
TheFifthAce#4128: then restart pc
Poinapple Express#2170: wait wtf
TheFifthAce#4128: @thatubuntuguy where did you even get 2 from
Poinapple Express#2170: help
TheFifthAce#4128: @Poinapple Express ?
Poinapple Express#2170: i press apply
thatubuntuguy#5914: idk im dumb
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
Poinapple Express#2170: and it unticks make all boot settings
TheFifthAce#4128: yes thats fine
TheFifthAce#4128: restart
TheFifthAce#4128: it does that
TheFifthAce#4128: @Poinapple Express wait a sec
TheFifthAce#4128: did you set it to 8 or 16 |
TheFifthAce#4128: forgot it goes by threads and not cores
TheFifthAce#4128: if you set it to 8 instead of 16, just do the thing again
Poinapple Express#2170: uh
Poinapple Express#2170: ok
Poinapple Express#2170: ok i think u fucked it
Poinapple Express#2170: u made it permenant
TheFifthAce#4128: no
thatubuntuguy#5914: it aint permanent
TheFifthAce#4128: you just repeat steps
thatubuntuguy#5914: just set it again to 16
TheFifthAce#4128: ^
Poinapple Express#2170: i mean i cant change it to 16 now lol
TheFifthAce#4128: :Thonk:
TheFifthAce#4128: did it have 16 as an option before
Poinapple Express#2170: yh |
TheFifthAce#4128: ok so
TheFifthAce#4128: unselect number of processors
TheFifthAce#4128: so that the box is greyed out
TheFifthAce#4128: hit ok, apply
TheFifthAce#4128: restart again
TheFifthAce#4128: then set it to 16
TheFifthAce#4128: I usually only have to do this with older intel systems which dont have SMT so I forgot its by thread
TheFifthAce#4128: @Poinapple Express just say when youve done all that
Poinapple Express#2170: done
Poinapple Express#2170: @TheFifthAce
thatubuntuguy#5914: open your game
thatubuntuguy#5914: play it and see if it still runs shit
thatubuntuguy#5914: if it does send a screenshot of task mgr
thatubuntuguy#5914: on the performance tab
thatubuntuguy#5914: @Poinapple Express let me know when u do that |
TheFifthAce#4128: ^
TheFifthAce#4128: do that
TheFifthAce#4128: Make sure you have individual threads on for task manager
Poinapple Express#2170: ok
Poinapple Express#2170: so
Poinapple Express#2170: what do i do?>
Poinapple Express#2170: @TheFifthAce
thatubuntuguy#5914: @Poinapple Express does the game run like shit
thatubuntuguy#5914: still
Poinapple Express#2170: checking
thatubuntuguy#5914: ok
thatubuntuguy#5914: ping me when you finish checking
Poinapple Express#2170: kk
TheFifthAce#4128: make sure to go to the cpu tab, right click, change graph to logical processors
Poinapple Express#2170: @thatubuntuguy still runs shit |
thatubuntuguy#5914: hm
thatubuntuguy#5914: ok send a task manager screenshot
thatubuntuguy#5914: rightclick and change graph for logical processors before you take screenshot
kittycat959#2895: 2500k is a lit processor still
thatubuntuguy#5914: yes
thatubuntuguy#5914: it is
thatubuntuguy#5914: i had a 2400 which died
thatubuntuguy#5914: and took the motherboard with it
kittycat959#2895: F
Poinapple Express#2170: ok
kittycat959#2895: My mate has a 2400 system
kittycat959#2895: With a 1030 he got for £50
thatubuntuguy#5914: woh
thatubuntuguy#5914: wait
thatubuntuguy#5914: he should've got the 7870 |
thatubuntuguy#5914: or 7970
kittycat959#2895: Sff my dude
Poinapple Express#2170: getting a ss in a secx
thatubuntuguy#5914: ok fair @kittycat959 but z77 boards are stupid cheap nowadays
thatubuntuguy#5914: got my biostar tz77xe3 for £40
kittycat959#2895: Yeah ik but it was £150 total
thatubuntuguy#5914: 2500k for £40
thatubuntuguy#5914: 8gb ddr3 £12
kittycat959#2895: Yeah ik
thatubuntuguy#5914: used fsp psu 500w - £25 / I got a new masterwatt 550 for £55
thatubuntuguy#5914: 7970 - £70
Poinapple Express#2170: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/559075089128357889/unknown.png
kittycat959#2895: But he needed one the same size as an Xbox one
Poinapple Express#2170: :Thonking:
Poinapple Express#2170: :JeffreyIsThinking: |
thatubuntuguy#5914: wtf is the utilisation
thatubuntuguy#5914: 37%?
thatubuntuguy#5914: does this happen with other games or just rust
Poinapple Express#2170: Its the cpu, its good
thatubuntuguy#5914: ?
thatubuntuguy#5914: its not
thatubuntuguy#5914: it should be much higher
Poinapple Express#2170: i mean yeah it is lol
thatubuntuguy#5914: wdym
Poinapple Express#2170: the cpu is very good
Poinapple Express#2170: and my mate has a 1700
Poinapple Express#2170: and it runs same utilisation
thatubuntuguy#5914: which gpu again?
Poinapple Express#2170: 1070ti
thatubuntuguy#5914: bottleneck |
Poinapple Express#2170: No
Poinapple Express#2170: lol
thatubuntuguy#5914: :hahaL
Poinapple Express#2170: you rly don't know your stuff.
thatubuntuguy#5914: 1700x?
Poinapple Express#2170: Lemme get @TheFifthAce back here
Poinapple Express#2170: actually talks facts
Poinapple Express#2170: the 1700x is a v good cpu
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
Poinapple Express#2170: my mate has 1700 and 970 and same uti
Poinapple Express#2170: so
Poinapple Express#2170: 1700x and 1070ti is not a bottleneck
thatubuntuguy#5914: you are correct it is not
thatubuntuguy#5914: ok imma leave
Poinapple Express#2170: 😕 |
Poinapple Express#2170: please do
TheFifthAce#4128: no oc on a 1700x?
TheFifthAce#4128: wack
Poinapple Express#2170: stock cooler
TheFifthAce#4128: also doesnt look like your cpu is turboing
TheFifthAce#4128: what game is this, rust?
Poinapple Express#2170: yeah........
Poinapple Express#2170: xd
TheFifthAce#4128: :ThonkAndPepperonis:
TheFifthAce#4128: wack
Poinapple Express#2170: 😭
TheFifthAce#4128: I run it at 75 fps (locked vsync) on an r5 2600 + 1060 6gb on "good" preset
TheFifthAce#4128: so the fact that its running worse on better hardware is a
Poinapple Express#2170: I run 60fps lowest settings
TheFifthAce#4128: :ThonkSpin: |
TheFifthAce#4128: something is wronng then
Poinapple Express#2170: correct
TheFifthAce#4128: why is your disc usage so high
TheFifthAce#4128: one drive?
thatubuntuguy#5914: do you have an msi board by any chance
TheFifthAce#4128: thought u were leaving
thatubuntuguy#5914: like this convo
TheFifthAce#4128: also if your 1070 ti isn't hitting max, that means its either a cpu issue or a bad gpu throttle issue
Poinapple Express#2170: i have an asus
TheFifthAce#4128: gpu should be at max when possible to push out as man-
TheFifthAce#4128: is
TheFifthAce#4128: is it the asus prime
Poinapple Express#2170: wait
Poinapple Express#2170: not an asus nvm
TheFifthAce#4128: ok good |
Poinapple Express#2170: idk what mobo i have
Poinapple Express#2170: i forogt
Poinapple Express#2170: forgot
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx come help
TheFifthAce#4128: this is very wack
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/559075089128357889/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: 60 fps low with stutters
TheFifthAce#4128: 1070 ti with r7 1700x
TheFifthAce#4128: or @Rio
TheFifthAce#4128: by all means this should be able to run rust at 60 fps high
thatubuntuguy#5914: is the ram definitely running at 2400mhz
thatubuntuguy#5914: no power saver shit running
Poinapple Express#2170: yh
thatubuntuguy#5914: @Tech Helper this is wack
thatubuntuguy#5914: help this dude |
Poinapple Express#2170: pls
Poinapple Express#2170: xd
Evvy#0001: Make sure discord overlay isn't running c':
Evvy#0001: Oh shit it is
Evvy#0001: turn that shiiit off
Evvy#0001: @Poinapple Express
Evvy#0001: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/559079143120175104/unknown.png
Poinapple Express#2170: ok
Evvy#0001: any difference?
Poinapple Express#2170: no
Evvy#0001: rip
Evvy#0001: it got me an extra 260 fps in tf2 :haha:
Poinapple Express#2170: lol
Poinapple Express#2170: i need helppppppppppppppppp
Poinapple Express#2170: @Tech Helper |
TheGeekster#8508: Please don't tag multiple times, what steps have you tried to find the issue? Is it multiple games? or just pubg?
wapted#6788: So your having performance issues with a 1070ti?
Poinapple Express#2170: y
Poinapple Express#2170: yh
wapted#6788: Screenshots of the driver from device manager please
Poinapple Express#2170: and i only tagged you once?
wapted#6788: check the clocks with the card under load with GPU-Z
Poinapple Express#2170: clocks are fine
Poinapple Express#2170: thats weong
wapted#6788: Run the game
Poinapple Express#2170: wait lemme chek
wapted#6788: open gpu-z
wapted#6788: go on sensors
wapted#6788: and after a couple of minutes
wapted#6788: send me a screenshot here |
Poinapple Express#2170: cba its just not gunna work
Poinapple Express#2170: ive tried everytignf
wapted#6788: Well dont tag people here for help if you cant be arsed
Saturnity#8647: :GWsocksThonkeryPing:
Deleted User#0000: Hi
Deleted User#0000: I just found a old phone of mine
Deleted User#0000: It’s a Samsung Galaxy Ace 4
Evvy#0001: cool
Xènius#8267: So I'm thinking of reinstalling my Windows 7 but I installed with a disk is there a way I can put it on a sub and reuse my key?
TheGeekster#8508: yeah, you'll be able to activate windows with the key no matter how you install it, as long as it's the right version
Deleted User#0000: anyone know how to programm in java?
TheGeekster#8508: You'll be pushed to find someone here as this is more of a tech server and not a coding server
wapted#6788: Yeah why, what yo need to know Albino
Deleted User#0000: I have a question if I could ask
wapted#6788: Ask away |
Galilool#3398: this must be a long question
Deleted User#0000: So like im in a computer school and im learning java, and now we started using the methods from java doc and for some methods its easy to use them but like there are some like hash{} and its just weird understanding how to use it.
DarknessFalls229#2286: but
DarknessFalls229#2286: whats the question?
Deleted User#0000: like some methods tell you what they do
Deleted User#0000: but some dont so how can i use it if i dont know how
DarknessFalls229#2286: you can trial and error through it
wapted#6788: Right.. so you want to know how to use methods/functions (from other librarys)
wapted#6788: Your best friend here is Google
Deleted User#0000: yea
wapted#6788: Wack 'Java MethodName' into google and im sure you will get some helpful stuff
TheGeekster#8508: Code it > run it > error > go back to code > google it > edit code > run it > less errors > edit code > run it > more errors > repeat :JeffreyIsThinking: Best way i've found of learning is to give it a go, as they've said above
wapted#6788: Trial and error, with using Google, can be tedious but the best way to learn really 😃
Deleted User#0000: okay thanks
wapted#6788: Dont worry, it will get easier |
DarknessFalls229#2286: _eventually_
Deleted User#0000: *i hope heh*
Xènius#8267: Also no chance in hell in getting that free Windows 10 upgrade right?
TheGeekster#8508: *Shhhh but windows 7 keys do still activate windows 10 installs*
Xènius#8267: DM me about this
TheGeekster#8508: Eh that's literally it, windows 7 keys activate windows 10, microsoft would have stopped this behaviour if they had genuinely didn't want people doing it
Xènius#8267: I think I have 7 pro
Xènius#8267: Can I get 10 pro?
TheGeekster#8508: https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10
TheGeekster#8508: Mhmm, windows 7 keys will activate windows 10
TheGeekster#8508: It's a very fuzzy area that microsoft themselves have conflicting information about, but they basically want everyone to be on windows 10 and move away from windows 7, especially with the EOL coming up next year
TheGeekster#8508: they just can't *say* that
Xènius#8267: Ok but will 7 pro get me 10 pro?
TheGeekster#8508: Aye
Xènius#8267: That's a yes? |
TheGeekster#8508: Yeah, sorry that's a yes
Xènius#8267: Ok thanks it's just a big deal if this messes up is all
Xènius#8267: I have a laptop and some extra drives to back stuff up
Xènius#8267: So I shouldn't lose anything but I don't have enough money to buy another copy of wundows
TheGeekster#8508: no probs
Xènius#8267: 8 googled the 7 upgrade think most post weren't after around October 2018
Xènius#8267: @TheGeekster
Smug space wizard#7829: anyone know a easy way to look up the bluesceen code and what it's falgging for?
Xènius#8267: Like when you look it up or a easy way to put the code 8n a search engine?
Rio#1000: @Xènius i activated my windows 10 pro with a windows 7 key a few weeks ago
Evvy#0001: pff
Xènius#8267: Did you upgrade to 10 from 7 with that key before hand?
Rio#1000: nope
Rio#1000: i have a collection of like 30 windows 7 keys i stole off hps
Smug space wizard#7829: *i have like 100 oem keys of old lenovos* :Hahahahaha: |
Smug space wizard#7829: the pain is going to pin them through mircrosoft making sepret accs for the keys in case i wanna transfer any perticular key to a new pc
Smug space wizard#7829: thorwing them away seems like a waste. have removed those watermakers for my frinds and family for about 2 years now
taptapking#6216: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/559260644650647581/Screenshot_2019-03-24-13-23-19.png
taptapking#6216: My galaxy note 3 has ads that popped out of nowhere
taptapking#6216: How to fix this?
Rio#1000: uninstall the most recent app you installed
taptapking#6216: I only installed facebook, fb messenger and discord
taptapking#6216: (This phone was given to me by my dad, I already uninstalled all apps before installing what I need)
MythologicalZ#3752: Format and see if it still happens
taptapking#6216: You mean resetting it to factory settings right?
MythologicalZ#3752: Yeah
taptapking#6216: It's gonna take a while
stubbertville#5239: does anyone know about the A8V-E Deluxe motherboard
TheFifthAce#4128: WITH
TheFifthAce#4128: whjat |
TheFifthAce#4128: pRObLME
Jamie.Cullen#8363: I have the A8V-N
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Socket 939?
stubbertville#5239: yes, i need help with getting sata working
TheFifthAce#4128: undeafen
Tinybox#9112: How much is an x58 + i7 + 12GB of ram worth?
estimate?
Tinybox#9112: @Tech Helper ya know anyone?
DarknessFalls229#2286: depends on what board and i7
DarknessFalls229#2286: a 920 is worth much less than a 980x
JustinXenyx#8854: what i7 and what board?
JustinXenyx#8854: thats like the main value
JustinXenyx#8854: the RAM is like 30-ish USD depending on the sticks
Tinybox#9112: It's a quad core didn't exactly specify and a motherboard Gigabyte GS-X58A ud5
Tinybox#9112: Sorry I forgot to mention that :/ |
DarknessFalls229#2286: not GA?
DarknessFalls229#2286: instead of GS
JustinXenyx#8854: likely a typo
DarknessFalls229#2286: its a decent mobo
DarknessFalls229#2286: but saying quad core will mean anything between 960 and 920
DarknessFalls229#2286: so CPU wont be worth that much
Tinybox#9112: alright
Tinybox#9112: Let's just say it's a 920
DarknessFalls229#2286: anyway, you can pick a X5650 off off aliexpress for like 14 euro
DarknessFalls229#2286: but lets say its worth like 80-90$
DarknessFalls229#2286: the mobo,cpu and ram
DarknessFalls229#2286: maybe a bit more
JustinXenyx#8854: so, i7 is like 20usd, mobo is like 60 usd, RAM is 20-30 usd
cripplesmurf#4815: i habe an i7 920 im selling later this year
cripplesmurf#4815: x |
cripplesmurf#4815: i do want a mobo for it if yall got
cripplesmurf#4815: i have a whole setup but i wanna change mb
cripplesmurf#4815: 🗿
DarknessFalls229#2286: i got an i7 860 i want a board for
Tinybox#9112: forgot to mention it also has a Dark Rock pro 2 like cooler.
DarknessFalls229#2286: wanna do some hard OCing on it
Tinybox#9112: At least it looks like one
cripplesmurf#4815: i oced my 870 to 4
cripplesmurf#4815: hardly took it
Tinybox#9112: ah frick
Tinybox#9112: I wanna get a 1080
Tinybox#9112: SO CHEAP RN
cripplesmurf#4815: lmao
TheFifthAce#4128: 1080s are uber cheapo
TheFifthAce#4128: 300$ :monkagigagun: |
Tinybox#9112: 250-300 👌
DarknessFalls229#2286: well, they can only get cheaper, _right_?
Tinybox#9112: euros
TheFifthAce#4128: ye
TheFifthAce#4128: I'ma wait until navi to get a gpu
JustinXenyx#8854: @Tinybox i'd say its 130€ total with cooler, mobo, cpu and ram
DarknessFalls229#2286: i think i should wait till zen2 for a new cpu and board
TheFifthAce#4128: I already have an r5 2600
TheFifthAce#4128: which should last me a year or two
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah, but i have an 8350
TheFifthAce#4128: oh yeah
TheFifthAce#4128: definitely upgrade when zen 2 hits
Tinybox#9112: I WANT one...but my budget is 250, for 2 PCs and a Monitor, and I wouldn't wanna get a 1080 without a 1080p 144hz monitor or 1440p 144hz, but they might be good for flipping.
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx Gotcha thanks man
Tinybox#9112: I'm thinking of getting the 1080 and that combo. |
Tinybox#9112: And then getting a good looking free monitor and flipping it
Tinybox#9112: X58 and flipping tho
JustinXenyx#8854: don't buy/or sell a X58 rig and a 1080
DarknessFalls229#2286: i dont think x58 is worth much anymore due to its age
DarknessFalls229#2286: though 6 core 12 thread cpu is nice for such a platform
Tinybox#9112: Yea I don't think it would do good in flipping.
Tinybox#9112: I mean 3rd gen and 2nd gen do amazing, along with 4th
JustinXenyx#8854: the main aspect why its loosing value is related to all the modern instruction set X58 processors lack lmao
Tinybox#9112: :Romeo:
Jam#0384: Lads I need help
Tinybox#9112: Ok so this combo costs 45 bucks?
Tinybox#9112: good go or no?
Tinybox#9112: For a personal rig..
Tinybox#9112: With a total budget of 100
Jam#0384: Could I technically use Windows 98SE and Windows XP (SP2) on the same machine, separate drives. |
Jam#0384: Temporarily until I get a proper XP and 98 rigs built
Jam#0384: Currently they’re the same
Jam#0384: Pentium 4 3.0Ghz + 512MB RAM + Radeon 9250 128MB
Jam#0384: I’d assume it would give you the option to select an OS.
Tinybox#9112: I think that's possible..just depends on what you set as boot drive, I think Windows XP will just ignore the 98SE drive, so will 98
***I'm saying this because that's what VISTA did with my WIN7 Drive, WIN7 did the same***
JustinXenyx#8854: @Tinybox wait, the X58 combo is 45 USD?
JustinXenyx#8854: grab that shit ASAP
Tinybox#9112: yep
Tinybox#9112: no it's euros
Tinybox#9112: I'm still thinkin a lil.
JustinXenyx#8854: still a amazing price for that combo
Tinybox#9112: Whether I can still afford a card that performs like a 1060
Jam#0384: as great as the 1060 is, I’d recommend the 1070 used
Jam#0384: They’re getting cheap and provide far more longevity |
JustinXenyx#8854: @Jam usually, if you install one OS first and install the the next one, there is a selection menu
JustinXenyx#8854: But if you just jack 2 drives into one systems with multiple operating systems, it can be quite hit or miss
Tinybox#9112: yea 1070s used dip as low as 170 rn
Jam#0384: Right. I just don’t want to mess everything up tbh but I dont have the resources to make two rigs atm
Tinybox#9112: Can even talk the sellers down
Tinybox#9112: Just like
Tinybox#9112: If I buy a 1070
Tinybox#9112: I'D need to build a rig
Tinybox#9112: and flip that
Jam#0384: Why?
Tinybox#9112: Well..
Tinybox#9112: I need to build multiple rigs.
Tinybox#9112: One for my brother
Tinybox#9112: one for me
Tinybox#9112: And the same money 250, for all that |
Jam#0384: Why doesn’t your brother PAY for it
Tinybox#9112: including games
Jam#0384: Even a little bit of money
Tinybox#9112: Nah, he's been nice lately, plus I want someone to play with. And I forgot his birthday
Jam#0384: Oh. Alright
Jam#0384: Grab an R9 280x or something like that for him
JustinXenyx#8854: hmm, why would you want to buy games with that budget?
JustinXenyx#8854: its just cutting away at the pc budget
Tinybox#9112: @Jam yea I was thinkin of a 280/x, easy pickup along with a 2500k
JustinXenyx#8854: build the pc's now, buy the games l8r
Jam#0384: For him it would be an alright starter
Tinybox#9112: I would...but man, I did that with my first PC, took a year before I actually got games, that I liked.
Tinybox#9112: No stable income
JustinXenyx#8854: when i was younger, i bought games with saved up lunch money
Tinybox#9112: I usually save the money I get in a week, (0-5 Euros) and add that to my budget, also how I made up my first PCs budget |
Tinybox#9112: Saved up till I had 100 bucks, managed to convince my uncle to give me 100 bucks, after telling him what I want to do.
Tinybox#9112: then I built my first rig, had that for abouut a lil more for a year
Tinybox#9112: then flipped it for 50 bucks profit.
JustinXenyx#8854: if you're talking about euros, please don't say bucks lol, just creates confusion
Tinybox#9112: ok xD
Tinybox#9112: Bargaining the x58 guy rn
Tinybox#9112: no response to 40 but he read it.
Tinybox#9112: eh Ill just go for the 45 then, no loss anyway, Just gonna hope I can sell whatever I7 that is.
Tinybox#9112: and some of the ram
TheFifthAce#4128: @Tinybox if youll play games with me I can buy some games
TheFifthAce#4128: also, there are some great free games
TheFifthAce#4128: csgo, warframe, war thunder
Tinybox#9112: Yea I know about CS:GO and Warframe (Btw I lost my account on there after selling my old rig ;-;) Never played War Thunder,
Also no need to buy me games, I'd play with you eitherway well with the games I have at least, you've been wayy to kind lol, and I think your epic too sooo.
Tinybox#9112: Eitherway after my quick calculations. |
I need to score this combo for exactly 40 bucks.
Tinybox#9112: I'd then be able to grab a GPU like an r9 290/x 8GB or so. for 40-50 bucks.
Tinybox#9112: And get a case and a PSu
JustinXenyx#8854: r9 290/x for 40-50 euros? definitely not happening lol
JustinXenyx#8854: i think you mean R9 280/x
Tinybox#9112: common
Tinybox#9112: A lot for 50 bucks rn
Tinybox#9112: But they are all 4gb
Tinybox#9112: Occasionally you get 8gb
Tinybox#9112: 280s are kinda jumpy, some for 35 some for 40 some for 100
Tinybox#9112: 290s generally around 40-60
TheFifthAce#4128: what about rx 470/480s?
JustinXenyx#8854: those are some decent prices for 290's
Tinybox#9112: 1060s 3 and 6GB, 970s, Specifically the X version of the 290, RX 470s/480s/570s/580,980s are all what I'd call not so good as they range from 100-150
Tinybox#9112: And when you go to 150 |
Tinybox#9112: you can get a 1070 for 170
Tinybox#9112: 290 and X got a big difference in price for some reason. Probably because when they released they costed more by quite a bit? If I remember
Tinybox#9112: I really want a card with 8GB of vram
Tinybox#9112: or 6GB+
Tinybox#9112: To be future proof
JustinXenyx#8854: you're building a rig for 100€
JustinXenyx#8854: stop thinking about future proofing
Tinybox#9112: y e p
Tinybox#9112: I shouldn't
Tinybox#9112: Yea you are right
wapted#6788: otherwise you end up at a rtx titan and xeon w
Jam#0384: Lmao
Jam#0384: I have more than 3GB of VRAM for the first time in my life.
Jam#0384: Been on the 3GB train since Kepler.
Jam#0384: :JellyBeanFace: |
Jam#0384: 8GB gang
wapted#6788: yey
wapted#6788: welcome to the 8gb+ vram society
Jam#0384: epic
TheFifthAce#4128: The human eye can only see 4gb of vram
Jam#0384: 3-4GB is really the bare minimum these days
Jam#0384: 2GB doesn't cut it unless you Want 720p Low 60fps
Jam#0384: and 1GB...
Jam#0384: from my experience if you dont have at least 1GB, say goodbye to HD resolutions
Jam#0384: :Hahahahaha:
Jam#0384: Atleast with games 2015-Now
Tinybox#9112: Ok well I'm picking up that X58 combo, BUT now there is a 1070 for 170 but close to me it's reference tho, Should I pick it up and flip the PC?
Tinybox#9112: I know X58 and flipping prob not soo goood.
Tinybox#9112: But it might be a good go.
JustinXenyx#8854: i'd keep the X58 for the personal rig you're planning to build |
Tinybox#9112: So don't attempt to flip?
JustinXenyx#8854: nah, the profit would be abysmal
Tinybox#9112: Alright thanks Justin...also Ill thank you again, as you literally have helped me soo damn much including with my very first rig...helped me troubleshoot and build it. 👌
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx
Tinybox#9112: Including choosing parts 🤣 when I was an absolute noob.
thatubuntuguy#5914: 3gb vram is noice
thatubuntuguy#5914: i had 1gb for the gts 450
thatubuntuguy#5914: it couldn't run much at 1080p
SussyBalls#4615: Anyone got some safe methods for shipping PGA chips without the box nor the clamshell?
JustinXenyx#8854: any specific PGA chips?
JustinXenyx#8854: some have more fragile pins than others
SussyBalls#4615: i5-480m
Tinybox#9112: Hm, I just realized. d: The pic of the combo was taken on a carpet.
Tinybox#9112: No issue right?
JustinXenyx#8854: shouldnt be a issue |
Tinybox#9112: k thx man
SussyBalls#4615: Unless the carpet is supercharged
JustinXenyx#8854: carpets usually don't have enough of a charge, to kill a motherboard
TheFifthAce#4128: I store all my stuff on carpets
TheFifthAce#4128: nothing dead yet
B14NK#2605: Would an OEM fan curve be based off of the CPU package temp or a core temp?
B14NK#2605: I'm using an HP Envy 700-406
JustinXenyx#8854: OEM's usually don't touch package temps
JustinXenyx#8854: they focus on certain core temps and base their fan curves around that
B14NK#2605: Is there a way to override fan curves in Windows?
B14NK#2605: The core temp sensor is bugged on this computer, it's reading 1C at idle
TheFifthAce#4128: @Rio I took off my spacebar to clean under it and now its super loud when it touches the bottom, movement down is still quiet but its super loud now
JustinXenyx#8854: @B14NK not really, they are baked into the bios
B14NK#2605: I don't see core temp or package temp in HWiNFO64, but in Aida64, after an hour, I see core temp at 41 max and package temp at 114 max. Since they're not showing up in HWiNFO, should I just assume that at least the package temp on Aida64 is correct?
JustinXenyx#8854: sounds WAY OFF |
JustinXenyx#8854: are you using a AM3/+ rig?
B14NK#2605: FM2+
B14NK#2605: https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-envy-700-400-desktop-pc-series/7161708/model/7269341/document/c04490020
B14NK#2605: I stored the case away somewhere and didn't bother to take it back out so it's open air as of now
Jam#0384: I don't ever recommend FM2(+)
Jam#0384: AM3(+) is superior, and AM4 is far superior
B14NK#2605: I got it as a gift a while ago
B14NK#2605: Wanna say it was 2015
Jam#0384: It's quite bad
Jam#0384: C2Q levels at best
B14NK#2605: Well I already have it on hand and it's far out of return/warranty so I have to deal with it
B14NK#2605: I have a better computer by now, so I'd like to get rid of this one, however I would feel guilty if I sold it with a broken temp sensor
JustinXenyx#8854: its not a broken temp sensor
JustinXenyx#8854: most of them on AM3/+ and FM1/2/+ are never reporting right temperatures
JustinXenyx#8854: @Jam AM3/+ isnt superior, its the same shit |
Jam#0384: It is superior
JustinXenyx#8854: AM3/+ just has a bigger upgrade path
JustinXenyx#8854: its the same arch n shit
Jam#0384: Performance wise on the high end
Jam#0384: it's superior
JustinXenyx#8854: how the fuck is it superior, when its the same architecture?
Jam#0384: It's literally superior
B14NK#2605: @JustinXenyx so I shouldn't feel guilty if I sold it as is?
Jam#0384: Compare best FM2 to AM3
Jam#0384: CPU
JustinXenyx#8854: @Jam as i said "it has a bigger upgrade path"
JustinXenyx#8854: the performance is the same though
JustinXenyx#8854: just AM3+ has cpu's with higher core counts
JustinXenyx#8854: my A8 6600k on 5GHZ performs LITERALLY THE EXACT SAME as a FX4300 also at 5GHZ
Jam#0384: yes but the FX4300 is ass too |
Jam#0384: You're literally proving my point that AM3 is superior
JustinXenyx#8854: bigger upgrade path does not mean superiority in my eyes
Jam#0384: More CPUs, better performance at the high end.
JustinXenyx#8854: its not technically better performance, its just more "cores" of the same bull(dozer)shit
JustinXenyx#8854: more "cores" which perform exactly the same as the ones on FM2/+
Jam#0384: Superior doesn't mean good.
Jam#0384: Most Pentium 4s are superior to Pentium 3s
Jam#0384: But are Pentium 4s good in modern usage?
Jam#0384: No
JustinXenyx#8854: thats how i'm seeing AM3+ vs FM2/+ lmao
Jam#0384: Another example
Jam#0384: 1st Gen Pentium 4 vs Late 1st-3rd gen
Jam#0384: both the same architecture
Jam#0384: NetBurst
Jam#0384: but which would you choose. |
Jam#0384: I bet 478
B14NK#2605: Are the temp sensors working to the same degree that they would if the parts were new? They're not showing up on HWiNFO; on Aida64, they showed 114C package and 41C max core after an hour
JustinXenyx#8854: they are working like they would've been as if they were new
JustinXenyx#8854: thats means they still would have reported these obscure temperatures
B14NK#2605: So if I sold this as is, and the seller has issues, I could tell him it's the architecture or something similar?
B14NK#2605: Assuming it's related to heating
JustinXenyx#8854: @B14NK yup
B14NK#2605: Ok, that's all I needed then, thanks!
B14NK#2605: Oh wait, would a gtx 560 be good enough for this a10-7700k?
Jam#0384: uh
Jam#0384: probably
JustinXenyx#8854: Wouldn't be a bad pair in my opinion, but the 560 is pretty crippled with 1GB of VRAM
MythologicalZ#3752: And with it's driver support
Jam#0384: I mean neither of them are good.
B14NK#2605: I mean, it can't really get much better than that since it's an a10 right? Plus I already have the gtx 560 on hand |
Jam#0384: You could maybe pull of a 750Ti with an a10
Jam#0384: No more than that.
JustinXenyx#8854: i mean, if you already have the 560, go for it
Jam#0384: ^
B14NK#2605: So a10-7700k, gtx 560, 6gb ram, $200 usd a decent price?
JustinXenyx#8854: 200 USD is pretty expensive for that
B14NK#2605: 150 or 100 then or?
JustinXenyx#8854: something between 100 and 150 sounds reasonable, depending on the other components
B14NK#2605: What other parts would matter? I've already mentioned the cpu, gpu, and memory?
MythologicalZ#3752: Power supply is an important choice
B14NK#2605: I'll probably put in a Sparkle Power 450w
B14NK#2605: FSP is the manufacturer
JustinXenyx#8854: power supply, storage, cooler, case, fans used
JustinXenyx#8854: that Sparkle Power looks sketchy
B14NK#2605: FSP is reputable, no? |
MythologicalZ#3752: Depends
MythologicalZ#3752: FSP Hexas and a few other models from them are pretty shit
B14NK#2605: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/559469455168765968/IMG_20190324_161115__01.jpg
B14NK#2605: ATX-450PN
Abe.#3344: HWinfo isn't showing me my CPU temps? Can I have help? I'm trying to setup OSDs for CPU temp with HWinfo and MSI afterburner.
Abe.#3344: nvm fixed it
Rio#1000: @B14NK thats a decent unit
flyingsky#4474: hey how much is my pc worth nwo '
flyingsky#4474: msi gaming x rx 480 4gb
flyingsky#4474: i5 4670k z87 g45 gaming
flyingsky#4474: 12gb ram
flyingsky#4474: coolermaster cooler and cahssi
flyingsky#4474: and 3 fans
flyingsky#4474: 600wwatt
flyingsky#4474: wifi |
JustinXenyx#8854: from that estimate, i'd say like 300€
flyingsky#4474: 128gb ssd 500 hdd
JustinXenyx#8854: you arent naming specific coolers, cases, psu's etc
JustinXenyx#8854: those make a difference in the value
flyingsky#4474: cooler master watt 600
JustinXenyx#8854: that still is telling me jack shit
JustinXenyx#8854: aka nothing
flyingsky#4474: so 300 ?
MythologicalZ#3752: What motherboard too?
JustinXenyx#8854: z87 g45 gaming is the mobo
MythologicalZ#3752: Oof, they don't hold value particularly well
MythologicalZ#3752: Yeah 300 is a fair estimate
flyingsky#4474: eee in sweden bro
Rio#1000: @JustinXenyx masterwatt 600
Rio#1000: thats the model lol |
flyingsky#4474: chassi mb600l
JustinXenyx#8854: when i hear "watt" i think wattage, not masterwatt lmao
Rio#1000: lol fair
JustinXenyx#8854: cooler?
flyingsky#4474: not like 520 dollar in sweden
JustinXenyx#8854: i'd say its worth a good 350-400€ or 3.7k-4.2k swedish krona
thatubuntuguy#5914: how much is a core 2 duo t5800, 5gb ddr2, gts 450, 300w fsp worth
JustinXenyx#8854: @thatubuntuguy 3 dollars and the change in my couch
JustinXenyx#8854: :Hahahahaha:
thatubuntuguy#5914: :haha:
thatubuntuguy#5914: nah seriously
MythologicalZ#3752: Very little
JustinXenyx#8854: i'd say 30-40 quid tops
MythologicalZ#3752: Since Cex UK sells DDR2 for literally pennies
thatubuntuguy#5914: sodimm |
thatubuntuguy#5914: they're sodimms
JustinXenyx#8854: even more worthless :Hahahahaha:
thatubuntuguy#5914: its a mobile matx meme
thatubuntuguy#5914: i've seen 4gb ddr2 sodimms go for £40 on ebay
thatubuntuguy#5914: Eh even if i get £40 for it it'll be a profit
thatubuntuguy#5914: i built the damn thing for £35
Rio#1000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/559487801557647360/image0.jpg
MythologicalZ#3752: Teehee
thatubuntuguy#5914: how about 2500k, hd 7970, 8gb ddr3, pretty new masterwatt 550 psu, aerocool cs1101, biostar tz77xe3
JustinXenyx#8854: like 200quid or so
stickys.party.hat 《^_^》#2076: is 32 dollars a good deal for a ddr3 non oem 775 board, I know other platforms and shit are cheaper I am just curious for 775 itself since I usually see 775 boards more expensive unless they take ddr2
TeoG13#3916: i think its fine
TeoG13#3916: what motherboard is it?
stickys.party.hat 《^_^》#2076: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-P5G41T-M-Motherboard-Rev-1-0G-W-Intel-E6500-CPU-2-93GHz-j/293008875834?hash=item4438b0a13a:g:~s8AAOSwPjNcY0PS
stickys.party.hat 《^_^》#2076: @TeoG13 |
TeoG13#3916: looks fair enough for the price
TeoG13#3916: and its also xeon capable with a bios mod
TeoG13#3916: if you are into this stuff
stickys.party.hat 《^_^》#2076: thanks
CranBreezy#0001: Can some one help me with my front io power pin placements?
Flannel84#2980: Does anyone know why a graphics won't produce a signal in my PC minus just spinning up the fan? It is a VERY old ASRock motherboard and the PCIE slot will run with an old Geforce 6200LE but not a GT 720 1gb or a AMD R5 240 regardless of what I try.
I've tried all the updates I can think, including the latest BIOS I could grab but nothing still. It is worth noting as well that the onboard graphics will not produce a signal with the card in as well and I have my bios set to use the PCIE slot first for graphical output.
For reference as well the GT 720 1GB is an old dell OEM that is PCI Express 2.0.
Lady Mipha#0611: Will the onboard graphics work without the card in
Flannel84#2980: yes on board works without the card
Flannel84#2980: and I know the slot is live since the old 6200LE will give an output like usual
Lady Mipha#0611: Do you have anything that is similar to a 6200le
Flannel84#2980: no, just the 6200LE on hand. I do have an old 560TI but I'd need to swap powersupplies and I'd rather not have to mess with that if I can avoid it |
Lady Mipha#0611: Could be that the motherboard is locked down on the graphics card
Flannel84#2980: anyway to verify that?
Lady Mipha#0611: Not really without a graphics card from the same generation maybe
Flannel84#2980: Any other possiblities then?
Lady Mipha#0611: Not really
Lady Mipha#0611: Unless other people know
Flannel84#2980: alright well thanks for the help thus far. My only other course of action is work my way backwards through DirectX versions since 12 won't work and 9.0c does and see if a 10.1 or 11 card will work and then work from there checking arcitectures and other junk.
Xènius#8267: Any one know why dban dosnt work and says some cmd prompt is m8ssing?
Xènius#8267: If burnt it to 2 disk
TeoG13#3916: If the motherboard has pcie 1.0 then its not compatible with pcie 3.0 cards and maybe its not compatible with pcie 2.0 cards as well @Flannel84
TeoG13#3916: Pcie 1.0 is very weird compatibility wise
TheGeekster#8508: ^ That's a good point, it just might not be compatible with anything running pcie2, from looking it up, PCie 1.1 started broad compatibility with pcie 2.0 etc, but 1.0 is iffy
Flannel84#2980: is there any way to check what the exact version of PCIE slot I have? From everything I've searched I can't recall noticing it. @TeoG13
DarknessFalls229#2286: you can check with CPU-Z
DarknessFalls229#2286: or perhaps it was GPU-Z |
DarknessFalls229#2286: yup CPU-Z says it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/559742677386657803/unknown.png
Thomas Callaghan#6969: 2080 tee hee
Thomas Callaghan#6969: @DarknessFalls229 you starting your build yet?
DarknessFalls229#2286: starting?
DarknessFalls229#2286: all i need is new mobo, cpu and ram
DarknessFalls229#2286: but i havent found a good deal yet, everythings expensive
cripplesmurf#4815: lol imagine having a dgpu
cripplesmurf#4815: what a nerd
DarknessFalls229#2286: and still need to sell my second pc so in theory i dont have muns
Thomas Callaghan#6969: :ruka:
Thomas Callaghan#6969: 1st gen ryzen 7 time
TheFifthAce#4128: @DarknessFalls229 youre uk right
DarknessFalls229#2286: no
DarknessFalls229#2286: NL
TheFifthAce#4128: big rip |
DarknessFalls229#2286: things are usually somewhat more expensive here
DarknessFalls229#2286: though good deals are still to be found
JustinXenyx#8854: isnt importing shit out of germany quite easy for you?
DarknessFalls229#2286: you just need to search long enough
JustinXenyx#8854: we have some decent hw prices on the regular
DarknessFalls229#2286: dunno, havent really tried
DarknessFalls229#2286: @JustinXenyx How would it go to work?
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx I could send an r5 1600 + mobo from micro center
TheFifthAce#4128: :aHyperDab:
JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce now add 19% tax onto that price, plus shipping, plus customs costs (worst case)
TheFifthAce#4128: r i p
JustinXenyx#8854: not worth it importing shit from the US when you calculate all that back in
MythologicalZ#3752: I mean
TheFifthAce#4128: its only 6% tax tho?
MythologicalZ#3752: The CPU is like 50 dollars since sale meme |
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
TheFifthAce#4128: its insane
TheFifthAce#4128: 100$ for a cpu and mobo
TheFifthAce#4128: 6 core gaming for 400$
JustinXenyx#8854: its 19% for germany lol
TheFifthAce#4128: ooferino
JustinXenyx#8854: 21% is regular in NL, and the reduced rate is 6%
JustinXenyx#8854: btw "The reduced rate is mainly applicable to foodstuffs and medicines. "
JustinXenyx#8854: so you can correct my 19% tax to a 21% tax lmao
TheFifthAce#4128: ouch
DarknessFalls229#2286: i had to pay 31 euro on import taxes on my 2080 alone
JustinXenyx#8854: 31 euros? thats quite cheap
DarknessFalls229#2286: well, i dont consider it cheap
DarknessFalls229#2286: as i dont have a stable income
DarknessFalls229#2286: or rather none at all |
TheFifthAce#4128: I mean
TheFifthAce#4128: thats 31 euro for a 2080
TheFifthAce#4128: you got it in a giveaway didnt you
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah
Thomas Callaghan#6969: hee hee hee hee hee hee hee
DarknessFalls229#2286: but disregard that, i paid money to have it enter the country
Thomas Callaghan#6969: want my 8086k darkness
DarknessFalls229#2286: sure i would
Thomas Callaghan#6969: :magikHAHA:
DarknessFalls229#2286: probably cant though
Thomas Callaghan#6969: 300 quid
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah exactly what i meant
Thomas Callaghan#6969: eh
Thomas Callaghan#6969: id save for an intel platform in the short term
Rio#1000: @Thomas Callaghan I’ll suck you off in the pick n mix aisle for the 8086k |
Thomas Callaghan#6969: :Eurgh:
Thomas Callaghan#6969: my only real option would be a 9900k
Thomas Callaghan#6969: no thanks x
DarknessFalls229#2286: well, currently im fine with the performance of this thing, the framerates arent that terrible, but i rather save up for something better like r5 2600x
Rio#1000: @DarknessFalls229 flex your pc in the pcmr subreddit lmao
DarknessFalls229#2286: _why??_
DarknessFalls229#2286: i got the most fcking unbalanced system
TheFifthAce#4128: to piss them off @DarknessFalls229
DarknessFalls229#2286: ah
DarknessFalls229#2286: then i should whip out my single core athlon rig and put it in there
TheFifthAce#4128: and put the 2080 in it
DarknessFalls229#2286: thats what i meant with put it in there
Thomas Callaghan#6969: lol
Thomas Callaghan#6969: what's the athlon
DarknessFalls229#2286: like a 64 4000+ |
TheFifthAce#4128: someone stole my eggos
Thomas Callaghan#6969: :allgoodinthehood:
DarknessFalls229#2286: how eggregious
Thomas Callaghan#6969: nice a64
Flannel84#2980: No dice trying the GPUZ check (Still working with it) anyone else want to throw out an idea as to why no modern gpu will give me a signal to my PC and when plugged in to my PCIE slot prevent onboard from working?
DarknessFalls229#2286: what board do you have
Flannel84#2980: don't laugh but an ASRock P4VM890 (Socket 478). I have seen modern cards run with this socket, but the only info I have for roughly when the board was made is that the first bios are from early 2007
Flannel84#2980: its an odd project to say the least
DarknessFalls229#2286: might be too old for those newer GPUs
DarknessFalls229#2286: ive got a P67 board that dont work with newer cards
Flannel84#2980: It may be (still trying work arounds) but I might get an old GT 620 1gb OEM card and see where the barrier lies in terms of card age
Flannel84#2980: a 620 would be 2 years older then the 720 I've tried and the OEM variant is only DX 11 compatible
Flannel84#2980: @DarknessFalls229 just got GPUZ working and its PCIE 1.1
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah thats kinda oooolld
Flannel84#2980: but from what I've been able to research PCIE 2.0 cards should be backwards compatible and work in 1.1 |
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah but every board is different
DarknessFalls229#2286: some might not have the firmware to run it
DarknessFalls229#2286: or something
Flannel84#2980: Guess I'll keep poking around and see what i find
Flannel84#2980: Could the problem be caused by the fact that the cards are OEM? The only functional card is the 6200le (granted its the oldest) but it was also not a OEM,
Jamie.Cullen#8363: That shouldn't really affect it?
Flannel84#2980: I only came across one forum where someone had a similar issue and was told it was because the card was OEM
Flannel84#2980: But nothing else I have I can test unless I start swapping powersupplies, which at this point I might just have to to test this
Flannel84#2980: Update, it won't run an aftermarket 1060 or a OEM GT 720 or a OEM R5 240. However it will run a 6200LE and a 560TI. Any thoughts on these results?
JustinXenyx#8854: yes
JustinXenyx#8854: it does not like cards with UEFI compatibility
Flannel84#2980: Good to know. Is there a quick and easy way to find out if a card is UEFI or not when browsing for one online? Can't use the 560 as I had to swap powersupplies and the new one lacks screw holes for a required bracket
wapted#6788: basically, anything gtx580 and older
Flannel84#2980: hmmm.
Flannel84#2980: nothing like a 610 or 620? |
Flannel84#2980: Also this is the board I've got for the project. https://www.asrock.com/MB/VIA/P4VM890/index.asp?cat=Manual
I take it it's legacy and not UEFI, but maybe I'm missing something? It's from a very weird period in time right when lots of new tech was being used on boards I've noticed.
TeoG13#3916: even more recent cards still have bios compatibility as well as uefi, i don't get it...does this board have problems with uefi mode just existing?
wapted#6788: depends on the BIOS version
wapted#6788: ye its a 2007 board so chances are no hope with anything newer, wouldnt be any point anyway
SanteRaptor#2609: The fucken key on my moms pc stopped working
SanteRaptor#2609: Could someone give me a link to some even kinda trustworthy seller on ebay for win 10 keys?
pulse#6471: it's ebay they're trustworthy or your money back
mxckzy#0744: anyone know how to fix cant find anything online and cant update windows sice it says it encountered a problem https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/559828239204220956/unknown.png
Lady Mipha#0611: The windows update service is disabled so it can’t get updates for the app
mxckzy#0744: irs not updates i cant install anything from the microsoft storew
Flannel84#2980: I know the build I've got has no real point exisiting, but I'm induleging my curiosity and doing the best it possibly can. But ya, i don't think uefi works
JustinXenyx#8854: i think the windows store is telling you, that it is not up to date
mxckzy#0744: whats not up to date
JustinXenyx#8854: the fucking windows store |
JustinXenyx#8854: or your windows version
JustinXenyx#8854: could be both actually
mxckzy#0744: alright calm your tits
SanteRaptor#2609: Justin, can you link me a win 10 key seller on ebay?
JustinXenyx#8854: @SanteRaptor all of them are pretty much the same
SanteRaptor#2609: Okay...
JustinXenyx#8854: just make sure you pick one with 99% positive rating
Tinybox#9112: Should I get a W3690 or an X5660, the W3690 is a bit more about 5 bucks or so.
Do I have a chance to get higher clocks (Or lower voltages..? )
with the W3690 since its got an unlocked multiplier and doesn't need me to BCLK.
But if I were to get the X5660, If I wanted to BCLK I'd have to drop my memory speeds corrct?
Since I have G-SKILL Tridents
(And do I have to higher up the voltage on something else?)
My board Gigabyte UD5 X58 REVISION 1.
My cooler Looks like a Hyper 212 Evo but black and its chunkier by quite a bit? |
JustinXenyx#8854: W3690 is gonna be a better overclocker
JustinXenyx#8854: better samples n shit
wapted#6788: yeah
JustinXenyx#8854: and yeah, BCLK can cause massive system instability, it increases a lot more than just the CPU BCLK
wapted#6788: Everything is tied to it so ye
wapted#6788: you will have an easier time with the W series
Tinybox#9112: Alright, so you guys recommend the W3690?
JustinXenyx#8854: over the X5660 and a price difference of like 5 USD, definitely
Tinybox#9112: Alright
joseph#0303: Should I go for a 1070/Ti or a Vega 56
joseph#0303: I have a good PSU at 1000w which is 80plus cert
joseph#0303: i'm getting a freesync monitor
joseph#0303: and i also have decent cooling
JustinXenyx#8854: you have a 980X
JustinXenyx#8854: i'd worry about upgrading that first |
JustinXenyx#8854: because the lacking support for more modern instruction sets will limit it, even within the next couple of months already
Tinybox#9112: :sad_peter:
JustinXenyx#8854: also, X58 is dropping hard core in value, would be the time to sell now @joseph
Tinybox#9112: um
Tinybox#9112: Now I'm starting to regret buying my stuff haha
JustinXenyx#8854: nah, its a diff case with you lol
Tinybox#9112: Maybe should have gone for lga 1155
JustinXenyx#8854: you have to tight of a budget to do that lol
Tinybox#9112: An i5 2500k could fit with ease tho technically.
Tinybox#9112: Was waiting for a good 2600k deal xD
Tinybox#9112: Can still with ease sell tho
JustinXenyx#8854: 2600k on a 100€ system? a bit pushing it, isnt it?
Tinybox#9112: :thinking_peter:
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx pushing it but it's possible
Tinybox#9112: 2500k is easy |
Tinybox#9112: 2600k requires a bit more patient
Tinybox#9112: Plus if i were to sell it
Tinybox#9112: I can sell all the stuff for a good 150 bucks
Tinybox#9112: Or more 140
thatubuntuguy#5914: @JustinXenyx what is a good mobo for 9600k
thatubuntuguy#5914: also is 9600k + rtx 2070 a good combo
JustinXenyx#8854: why a 9600k?
JustinXenyx#8854: that thing is overpriced as shit
thatubuntuguy#5914: ikr
Tinybox#9112: It's a better gaming only cpu, than the 2700 tho by quite a bit.
Tinybox#9112: I mean.
Tinybox#9112: I wouldn't buy it tho even if I had the budget to
JustinXenyx#8854: i've heard that the Z390 UD is supposed to be a pretty decent Coffee Lake board
JustinXenyx#8854: @thatubuntuguy
JustinXenyx#8854: also, why a 2070? |
JustinXenyx#8854: 2060 is much better value
thatubuntuguy#5914: this cuck on ltt discord
thatubuntuguy#5914: wants to get the shit
thatubuntuguy#5914: im trying to tell him not to :haha:
JustinXenyx#8854: i guess there is a reason why i'm not on the LTT discord lol
Tinybox#9112: xD
Tinybox#9112: Also Justin are youu like eveer in #deleted-channel
thatubuntuguy#5914: @JustinXenyx this other cuck is saying that ram speed makes a 30 fps difference in gaming
thatubuntuguy#5914: 2666 from 2133 = 10-30fps
thatubuntuguy#5914: REE
JustinXenyx#8854: ask him to prove it, thats where they always loose their shit or show unreputable benchmarks
Tinybox#9112: Single channel vs Dual channel? Maybe he means that ?
Tinybox#9112: That's like 15 fps tho
Tinybox#9112: If I remember..?
Tinybox#9112: With ddr3 |
Tinybox#9112: Still wondering hard tho whether the 6 cores are worth not selling the set.
And how hard of an impact the AVX instruction set will have over the years/months, whether that might just push it and make me sell it make the profit, and buy some used Ryzen 1600 stuff, or go for a 2600k stuff with a better gpu
Tinybox#9112: Opinions?
JustinXenyx#8854: i'm very certain you won't fit ryzen into your budget
JustinXenyx#8854: but yeah, the missing instructions are just going to be a limiting factor in the future
Tinybox#9112: Fine by me anyway, I know if I go for a 2600k/2500k I can fit a used 1070 with it as they are Really cheap, and the sale would help me get to that.
Think I should do that?
Tinybox#9112: Cheap 1070s bout 150-250 good range.
thatubuntuguy#5914: 2500k will bottleneck a 1070 i think
thatubuntuguy#5914: 2600k with a slight overclock will be fine
Tinybox#9112: Perfomance boost tho eitherway and I could upgrade later down the line
thatubuntuguy#5914: fair enough
thatubuntuguy#5914: i really want my 2500k
thatubuntuguy#5914: i can't wait
thatubuntuguy#5914: i thought it was arriving today |
thatubuntuguy#5914: but it didn't
thatubuntuguy#5914: @JustinXenyx someone asking about b450m
thatubuntuguy#5914: d3sh
thatubuntuguy#5914: ree
thatubuntuguy#5914: wait is b450 the bad ones or b350
Jam#0384: I don't think a 2500K when overclocked will bottleneck a 1070
thatubuntuguy#5914: Really?!
thatubuntuguy#5914: NOICE
Jam#0384: Wait
Jam#0384: nah it kinda will
Jam#0384: I forgot how much better an OC 2600K was
JustinXenyx#8854: the b450m-ds3h sucks tbh, i'd only ever recommend it if it was the price of a A320 board
Jam#0384: A 2500K should handle a 1060 6GB tho
JustinXenyx#8854: 2500k handles a 1060 fine, but it starts to get limiting with a 1070
JustinXenyx#8854: certainly doable, but a 2600k would get a decent chunk more perf out of that 1070 |
Jam#0384: 2500K oc with a 1060
Jam#0384: is optimal
Alcyone#2233: Depends what game/software. I saw uplift in some games going from ivy i5 to sandy i7 with a 390x even
Tinybox#9112: OH UH lil issue with selling my board oh uh
Tinybox#9112: The old listing wasn't removed and just says sold
Tinybox#9112: :JellyBeanFace:
JustinXenyx#8854: usually that indicates that he's got a buyer lined up
JustinXenyx#8854: but the sale didnt go through yet
JustinXenyx#8854: hence why he's still keeping the ad up
thatubuntuguy#5914: how far do i overclock my 7970 to beat a 1060 3gb :haha:
thatubuntuguy#5914: 2ghz?
Alcyone#2233: I think you would need 1500-1700mhz. better get the LN2 out
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx
I mean the old listing from my combo
Tinybox#9112: Hmmm, maybe I should try playing switch with the x58 mobo... |
Tinybox#9112: And the set for a 1070
Ramiere#1840: Which socket is newer lGA 1151 or LGA 1155
Ramiere#1840: I think I know I just wanna make sure
Ramiere#1840: @here
wapted#6788: 1151 is skylake
wapted#6788: newer socket
wapted#6788: 1155 is sandy and ivy bridge
wapted#6788: older socket
Ramiere#1840: Is a Pentium g4560 better than an it 3470?
Ramiere#1840: I5*
ZeroForsaken#0001: I need some help
ZeroForsaken#0001: I tried reinstalling windows 10 (due to some issue with the os) and it black screened. When I turn it on it says windows can't boot properly and I select the option to continue to Windows Recovery Environment. PC restarts, the process repeats
Rysing Dragoon#5628: @Ramiere to answer your question, the i5 3470, albeit having an aging architecture, has two extra cores over the g4560
Rysing Dragoon#5628: So the g4560 is not better than the i5 3470
Rysing Dragoon#5628: At least in terms of performance |
Ramiere#1840: Thanks
Ramiere#1840: I'm thinking about buying this old $60 PC with 8 gbs of ram and an 3470 but I was gonna build one from scratch with a Pentium g4560 I didn't know which one would be better
Ramiere#1840: I kinda still don't
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Whoa there
Rysing Dragoon#5628: A $60 PC with a i5 3470 in it?
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Not bad
Rysing Dragoon#5628: I'd definitely keep the original processor
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Miles ahead of the g4560
Ramiere#1840: https://shopucw.com/products/hp-pro-3500-mt-i5
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Do it
Ramiere#1840: Here's the PC if you wanna check it out
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Oh my goodness
Rysing Dragoon#5628: You should buy that over the g4560 system
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Way better bang for buck imo
Ramiere#1840: I was just thinking about upgrading and how eventually I'd need a new mobo but I guess that's gonna happen either way so might as well |
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Yeah
Ramiere#1840: Thanks for the help! 😃
Rysing Dragoon#5628: That and you could spend more money on a better GPU
Rysing Dragoon#5628: So you could end up with a system that could easily run games over 60 fps at high settings
Rysing Dragoon#5628: All for a cheap price
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Although I will say
Rysing Dragoon#5628: The only real issue with these kind of systems are usually future proofing
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Since this is an Ivy bridge system however, I think you'll be perfectly fine
Ramiere#1840: I got a GTX 750 ti I was gonna throw in there till I get something better
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Ah
Ramiere#1840: Appreciate it a ton man thanks
Rysing Dragoon#5628: You're welcome
Rysing Dragoon#5628: I gotta say
Rysing Dragoon#5628: For $60, an i5 3470 system would be a bargain
Evvy#0001: hmmm |
Evvy#0001: would a r5 2400G be an upgrade over an FX-6300?
Rysing Dragoon#5628: I mean
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Anything would really be an upgrade over an FX-6300
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Coming from an FX owner
RandomTacos#3695: I'd say go with a 2600
RandomTacos#3695: Or 2600x tbh
Rio#1000: @Evvy do you have a microcentre near you?
Evvy#0001: no lmao
Rio#1000: they have 1600s for $50 if you bundle with a mobo
Rio#1000: o oof
Evvy#0001: actually asking for a friend tho
dude's got the opportunity to get a 2400G from his friend c':
Evvy#0001: i could see if he lives near a microcenter
Flannel84#2980: Quick question (And probably stupid) what matters most of these two items? More Cuda cores or a higher processor clock rate for a GPU.
One card has 96 cuda cores and processor clock of 1400mhz and the other has 192 cuda cores and a processor clock of 875mhz. |
wapted#6788: Depends on the architecture
wapted#6788: What are the two gpus
Flannel84#2980: both (I think) fermi. One may possibly be kepler because there are new and late models
wapted#6788: Still depends
Flannel84#2980: I'm gonna say both from everything I found Fermi.
wapted#6788: Say they are both fermi (unlikely as fermi doesnt tend to clock that high :P), its likely the one with the greater core count has the advantage
wapted#6788: but in reality, memory type/bandwidth has a big impact here
Flannel84#2980: I'm trying to ride that thin line of possible finding a GPU for my system from earlier lol. I've seen in some posts that the 600 series are the last ones that have a good chance of working.
Evvy#0001: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/559928201153871891/Screenshot_2019-03-25-22-32-14.jpg
Evvy#0001: thanks for notifying me about this *killer* deal, ebay
Evvy#0001: 🤔
Jam#0384: “Killer”
Evvy#0001: yeah dude it's the best
Rysing Dragoon#5628: """good"""
Evvy#0001: yas |
Rinhai#6179: Not much difference then https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/559949995202183198/unknown.png
Rinhai#6179: Modded 1150 4980HQ 140$ rn, totally pointless
Rinhai#6179: It was 90$ at first
Xènius#8267: so iv put isos on some usbs and now it lowed the capacity on then any idea on how to fix that?
Rio#1000: you running linux or windows?
Rio#1000: on windows open disk management, delete all the partitions, and make a new one
Rio#1000: linux install gparted and you can expand the partition thats already there
Xènius#8267: im on win
Rio#1000: then the former
Xènius#8267: ok i did it thanks
taptapking#6216: I have an gtx 650 that does post, but the computer doesn't output to it
taptapking#6216: it outputs to the onboard vga
taptapking#6216: (the card's fan does spin)
taptapking#6216: it was working few days ago, what's wrong with it?
thatubuntuguy#5914: have you tried going to bios and selecting dedicated video device? |
taptapking#6216: I already did that before
thatubuntuguy#5914: ok just checking
thatubuntuguy#5914: and igu is set to disable
taptapking#6216: igpu is set to "disable when peg installed"
thatubuntuguy#5914: can it see the peg in the bios
taptapking#6216: the other option is "always on"
thatubuntuguy#5914: usually there's an area with all the pcie devices listed
thatubuntuguy#5914: go there
thatubuntuguy#5914: does it appear there
taptapking#6216: I can't find that on my board
thatubuntuguy#5914: in the bios?
taptapking#6216: (it's an gigabyte ga-h81m-ds2)
thatubuntuguy#5914: ok go to windows if you can and check in device manager
taptapking#6216: no such option
thatubuntuguy#5914: hm odd |
thatubuntuguy#5914: have you checked in device manager
taptapking#6216: I haven't installed windows to that machine
thatubuntuguy#5914: hm
thatubuntuguy#5914: what os
thatubuntuguy#5914: is it a fresh build
thatubuntuguy#5914: nvm im stupid
thatubuntuguy#5914: what os is on the machine
taptapking#6216: no os at the moment
taptapking#6216: i don't have any spare hdds
thatubuntuguy#5914: so is it a fresh build or something
thatubuntuguy#5914: or did you just scavenge the drive from it
taptapking#6216: i said no hdds at the moment
Tinybox#9112: Should I get an Everest 85PLUS 500w semi modular PSU.
Or an
ENERMAX pro82+ (NORMAL 80 PLUS EDITION SO THE NEWER ONE) |
Both are used PSUs
thatubuntuguy#5914: i haven't heard of either of those
thatubuntuguy#5914: i wouldn't recommend either
Tinybox#9112: I know enermax
thatubuntuguy#5914: are they the ones who made that meme unboxed psu from 2004
Tinybox#9112: They quite known over here but everest has got that 80 plus bronze certification
Tinybox#9112: @thatubuntuguy I think so?
thatubuntuguy#5914: well idk your region so i can't really make any comment
thatubuntuguy#5914: i live in uk
thatubuntuguy#5914: sorry
Tinybox#9112: oh ok
thatubuntuguy#5914: i never seen enermax in my life :haha:
thatubuntuguy#5914: or everest
taptapking#6216: what about me?
thatubuntuguy#5914: ? |
taptapking#6216: I mean what's wrong with my card?
thatubuntuguy#5914: can you get an os on the machine?
thatubuntuguy#5914: i can't really for sure say it's dead until you boot an os of some sort
thatubuntuguy#5914: specifically windows
taptapking#6216: maybe tomorrow when I can borrow a spare hdd
thatubuntuguy#5914: do you have an alternative machine to try on
taptapking#6216: my h61 rig does output through the card
taptapking#6216: but only my h61 rig
taptapking#6216: h81, g31, 915 and 945 rig all refused to output through the card
CaptainFlanger#2563: guys, is it normal to have a quadro 4000 sitting idle at 85c?
DarknessFalls229#2286: id say no
DarknessFalls229#2286: is the card clean, new thermal paste? is the fan spinning correctly? is there enough airflow to the card?
CaptainFlanger#2563: there is airflow, the fan runs alright, and thermal paste though...
CaptainFlanger#2563: Yeah, I think it needs a new thermal paste. And a fan cleaning also. The temps reached 92c most of the time when I put a load on it.
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah, you should clean it and replace TP |
CaptainFlanger#2563: Gonna do that when have time.
Deleted User#0000: Need help
Deleted User#0000: anyone here?
Flannel84#2980: I'm around but not the most knowledgeable. Also just post your problem and someone will find it eventually next time.
Deinsti#5907: Issue already solved
flyingsky#4474: guys how its gonna be in artikel 13
Abe.#3344: Can you guys help me identify this graphics card from the back?
Abe.#3344: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/560157955128033280/IMG-20190326-WA0005.jpg
flyingsky#4474: nope
MythologicalZ#3752: Naw
flyingsky#4474: guys how its gonna be in artikel 13
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah, 2DVI ports and 1 DP and 1 HDMI is reaaaally common on GPUs
thatubuntuguy#5914: Can someone help?
thatubuntuguy#5914: I can't get the fourth pin off a push pin bracket
thatubuntuguy#5914: @JustinXenyx how can I get it out without having to remove board??? |
thatubuntuguy#5914: @Tech Helper sorry for ping. I'm desparate to install my 2500k
thatubuntuguy#5914: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/560159289084346369/image0.jpg
thatubuntuguy#5914: Nvm really sorry
thatubuntuguy#5914: Used a screwdriver
JustinXenyx#8854: usually twisting them and pulling them out works for me
Flannel84#2980: @Abe. due to how blurry the pic is the best thing I've found in a similar config is a GTX 670 2GB card. But that is my best guess as all I can do is go by port arrangement and cooling slots. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/560172928344260608/480.png
joseph#0303: help: r5 2600 or i5-9400F (gaming use)
DarknessFalls229#2286: id say ryzen for the threads, but if you really want the highest framerates you can pull from the GPU then the i5, but i wouldnt do that
Abe.#3344: @Flannel84 don't worry, I managed to get my friend to open it and it's a blower style Zotac 970
Flannel84#2980: I'd go R5
Flannel84#2980: and @Abe. gottcha, just figured I'd try to help somehow
JustinXenyx#8854: 9400F is overpriced
joseph#0303: alright. are there any good intel cpus that are around that ryzen 5 price
JustinXenyx#8854: not really
DarknessFalls229#2286: ryzen is p-much the best bang for your buck |
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