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in the blog entry for this podcast.
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i don't think there's anything wrong with that. we're going to have internal movements, arguments, and discussions.
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these arguments are what i call inside baseball, inside the libertarian movement we argue with each other.
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and i've learned a lot in that last decade at this point, i'm pretty sure i've had about.
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and submit them to newspapers in the hopes that they'll be published.
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i believe we're coming up on 2,500 published op-eds not nearly all of them by me, but i have a hand in editing and submitting them.
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suggests that the ultimate problem is the existence of the state, and we should get rid of the state.
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for sites that aren't libertarian blogs, picking up this content and publishing it. our first week's content has been picked up three times.
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i'm kind of proud of what we accomplished, my hope when i was setting initial goals, i was hoping by mid year to be averaging 10 pickups of our content every week.
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i think we're already getting there.
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inside baseball and outreach. i don't have a problem with either one of those things, i love inside baseball. i will argue with other libertarians all day long.
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i don't think we have any reason that, a lot of people will bemoan the fact that libertarians argue with each other a lot.
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i don't think it's a bad thing. i think it's a really good thing.
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hashing out the problems, having the arguments and then taking the results.
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so there's your a probably five minute rant they. all out of things, ask me anything question or ask me anything. thanks for asking.
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yay, thanks for asking.
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i love doing what i'm doing at the garrison center, but.
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yeah, i'm going to have to make a little bit of money if i'm going to devote several hours a week to it, which on a schedule of three op-eds per week.
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and leave out the time that i spent tracking whether the op-ed had got published, and submitting the op-ed to publications, and so on and so forth.
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so just keep that in mind, as you listen to this podcast, or as you read my blog.
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there's no such thing as a free op-ed. every op-ed costs people time, it costs people effort, it costs people research, it costs people work.
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but the same also applies at any other site you support that's not what i'm talking about. maybe you liked the content at [inaudible 00:06:24] dot org or at the future.
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that's time that he could have spent doing something else.
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so if he's looking for money and if you like his podcast, give him money. that's how you get more of them.
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p-p-s-t-e-r dot blogspot dot com as quickly as possible.
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and returns on june 21st, 2015.
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i haven't consulted with him. this is going to be a different kind of episode.
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second disclaimer, i work at the center for a stateless society.
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and that organization is involved in what i'm going to talk about tonight.
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i am also speaking only for myself and not for the center in any comments that i make here.
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i'm a little bit at the end of the old rope here, but i'm not going to put off the podcast for any longer.
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the key fact of which is that in that facebook post.
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he confessed that 10 years ago in 2004, i guess 11 years ago possibly somewhere, in 2004.
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he sexually molested a young family member.
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i did not know this was coming. i did not know that what he confessed to had happened.
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i was as surprised as anyone by this stunning confession and the other things that accompanied it, including.
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a plan to turn himself into the police, which as far as i know, did not happen.
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although i have heard from sources, i consider reliable, that he is in police custody as of now, but i can't promise that that's true.
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obviously one of the immediate concerns.
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came from the center for a stateless society.
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brad was a co-founder of the center for a stateless society. he was as director until circa 2010. so.
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it was founded in 2006. so half of his history, he was its director.
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he was actively involved in it to one extent or another until about two years ago, sometime in 2012.
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second or third quarter of 2012, as best as i can pin that down by correspondence and recollection.
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so obviously the center needed to make a statement. it did.
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that statement is titled freedom of disassociation, and in that statement the center condemns brad's confessed actions.
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disassociates itself as an organization from him permanently.
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and admits, i'm going to quote here, quote.
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"there is absolutely no avoiding the elephant in the room: spangler co-founded c4ss. he was a key a builder of its infrastructure."
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but he has not been part of c for ss for a long time, either publicly or behind the scenes.
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his biography on the website, erroneously listed him as a senior fellow until yesterday.
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this was issued. so we're talking about, friday, that description should have been changed long ago, simply for accuracy's sake.
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that's the main gist of the center's statement on the matter.
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i was involved in the framing of that statement. i approve a great deal of that statement.
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on my blog at knappster, that's k-n-a-p-p-s-t-e-r, dot blog spot dot com.
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you'll find a link to the statement, as well as a reprint of the statement with the parts that i disassociate myself from.
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annotated as to why.
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here's where i disagree with the center.
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the center is currently in the process of, and they will disagree with this term.
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memory holing brad spangler. taking everything he wrote at the center and moving it off of our site.
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i disagree with that.
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i do not.yeah.i obviously i care what he did and condemn what he did.
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but once again, he founded the center. he was responsible for the center's emergent ideological line. he directed the center for four years.
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removing his content will leave a hole in the center's infrastructure.
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that will be a brad spangler shaped hole.
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it won't make anybody forget that he was once affiliated with us. it's a...
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a theatrical, and in my opinion, panicked gesture.
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there's also some additional stuff in the center's statement.
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that i disagree with, and i explain why at the blog, i'm not going to rehearse that all here.
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it's been a rough 48 hours, folks.
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i've known brad spangler since, and i'm, you know...
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a little fuzzy here on the exact date, but let's call it 1998.
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i was involved in the libertarian party, and so was he.
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he was elected to, and served a two year term as a city councilman in north kansas city, missouri.
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before abandoning electoral politics for anarchism.
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a position which he, over the succeeding years, persuaded me to.
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so if you have to, anyone to credit for making me into a left wing market anarchist, the person to credit is brad spangler.
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we've not been close for several years. i don't know if he's been close with anyone for several years.
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i think most people who know him, knew that he had long abouts of apparent depression.
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in which he would just close himself off from everyone. i suspect that we now have a clue as to why that would be the case.
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i don't know how many times i can say i condemn what the molestation of a child by anyone, including brad.
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i owe brad. he's not somebody i will throw under the bus as a person.
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if he's going to jail, it will not be for the first time. at least one of the times he went to jail, it was with me.
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through no fault of his own, he got caught up in a dispute between myself and my ex-wife over visitation and child support.
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the company i worked for gone bankrupt, i got behind on my child support. i was catching up.
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thomas knapp: my ex-wife contrived to set up an ambush in which
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the police arrested me, just as i was getting caught back up enough to not be eligible for arrest.
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brad had given me a ride to go visit my daughter and since he had an expired plate on his car, he got arrested too. we spent four hours in jail.
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so like i said, this is a person that i'm not going to just discard like trash
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if he is prison or some kind of a mental institution.
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i've done a lot of things, all of which i consider good things with brad [spangler].
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if anyone has a problem with my position on that matter, i understand.
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my first sympathies in this situation are with the victim, not with brad.
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the actions he confessed to were so wrong and evil and damaging that there's just no justification there.
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that doesn't mean there can't be personal redemption and opportunities for him to make restitution to the victim.
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i'm sure that there will be more developments, more angst, more anger, more threats, yes threats.
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not just to brad, but to anyone who was insufficiently zealous in joining the witch hunt that ensued following his confession.
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i had some dimwit on facebook threaten to report me to child protective services because unless i was willing to crucify brad immediately,
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when i still wasn't sure whether or not the confession was real and not somebody hacked his facebook page,
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that that meant that i must be some kind of pedophile or something. i don't want to emphasize that it's been
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