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as we were talking about the c's, b and c is when it sort of changes. i think a lot of the money at the later stages have come from tiger, dst and softbank in india.
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there's a lot of chinese investors investing in india. talk to me a little bit more about how that's playing out.
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yeah. i think, so they've recently entered the market. i would think that alibaba entering the market is.
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us companies are just dying to go to china and india. i mean, is it just because there's a huge large global market and that's it? or are there other reasons that you think, or other factors that are playing out there?
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when i think of ride sharing in the u.s., i think what's being really disrupted isn't just the taxi cab industry, it's-
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related phenomenon where people who are born in the nineties have.
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... innovation and how we define it. because a lot of people, when they think about china and india-
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initially thought about the innovation happening as just duplicating what was happening here.
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the market really influences one of the resources that people use for how they actually innovate.
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the nature of the firm, like the definition of a company kind of different in both of these places because.
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an ibm, but we're talking about a different type of firm, like a different organizing entity that has a different mindset. how's that kind of playing out with this?
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so i do think that you will see this phenomenon of this behavior only in the next wave.
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then how do you gauge the health of these businesses? how do you measure-
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collaborations that allow the payment system to get going and do a lot of that? so that was a case where that sort of subsidization of transactions was a very good idea.
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how do you tell the difference between what sort of a healthy version of that and unhealthy version of that?
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... and vice versa. people going to various parts of the world, et cetera. but you also do have local pockets-
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first of all, some of those movements has brain drain reversed. and then, secondly, about the talent markets in general and, culturally, their mindsets.
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in china and down to the mindsets or other aspects of how they think about working at startups versus big companies?
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in the early 2000s, i was involved in running a fund for the government of hong kong.
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could you actually describe what the benefits of quantum computing are? because you described this vision that vineman had, richard vineman had.
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would it be the easy analysis of some genome related-
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is what einstein was famously responsible for being very skeptical about and this is-
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applications that might occur. it is not difficult to realize what is strategically of great consequence.
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who communicate all the time and they will need products and they will need machines.
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they're very predictive in a completely new way. just one interruption here, elias-
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actual quantum computing has become strategic at the government level and that is why when suddenly-
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... to more of a practitioner-oriented enterprise. how can you do a startup here? how can d-wave do a startup? how can a startup, which by definition, has to bootstrap its resources-
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not the guys of guys that make the machines. and the reason is that this is probably one of the purest forms-
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is what you guys have been asking me about. we suddenly started to realize that you could create applications.
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the only thing is it's actually an empty-
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not people who called. the [inaudible 00:02:02] can come later.
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about the reconciliation at some point of the laws of quantum mechanics-
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and thereby, understanding the central question that we've always asked-
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and despite our ability to understand these things-
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we've gone to starting businesses, investing, being an academic.
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hi everyone, welcome to the a16z podcast. i'm sonal and i'm here today with michael and we are talking to bill janeway.
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bill is a senior advisor at warburg pinkis where he had headed up his high-tech investment efforts starting in the late 80s, so he was actually one of the early venture capitalists.
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and he's also a visiting lecturer today in economics at cambridge, where he also received his-
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doctorate in economics. so the best way to probably describe him is as a theorist practitioner of financial economics.
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and he has a real unique perspective having tracked the history and evolution of venture capital. so we thought it'd be great to have him on the a16z podcast.
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i think that definitely helps with understanding the cases-
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... is the only, it's the retrospective hedge-
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on the one hand, the scope is narrow, but what's weird and different is that it's actually taking place in the private market.
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experienced at the retail level for seafood during 2020 and much of 2021-
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on that end, it doesn't look like we're going backwards as far as demand. so now on the supply side, can it keep up?
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land based and offshore and closed containment. those other forms of production will come in and-
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whether you do value adding or anything else, there's still such a high demand just for the commodity.
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strengthened at retail during the height of covid, because people stayed home, blah, blah, blah.
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yeah, absolutely. absolutely. i mean again, it's just-
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... mainers who want to protect their view or whatever they want. nimbys, as you mentioned. anyhoo, fast forward, and here we are.
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the dream is far from realized and is on the knife's edge of a complete disaster. whole oceans is a great example. i mean-
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now that's kind of what i... yeah, not kind of. that's what i was saying, and subsequently brian vinci of the freshwater institute-
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anybody, if you would've asked them four years ago when these projects started, or a little over four years ago, i think people would-
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... the slow pace of this. i just don't think they did anticipate that, and what they really didn't anticipate-
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... mainers who want to protect their view or whatever they want. nimbys, as you mentioned. anyhoo, fast forward, and here we are.
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the dream is far from realized and is on the knife's edge of a complete disaster. whole oceans is a great example. i mean-
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... long-term, wealthy maine folks who want to preserve things the way they are.
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i don't know that the moratoriums would have done anything anyway.
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there's certain channels that we go through to communicate with them, so that we can kind of appease china.
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and he picked up and it was a congratulatory email, and the media is flipping out!
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i got to be one of the stupidest human beings alive. and what's funny is he can't hold down a job anywhere.
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what is the fear? i'm watching the news today, and people are legitimately afraid, some of them.
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the taiwanese called him, and all he did was answer the phone.
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... because we don't let china dictate to us what our diplomacy is going to be with other countries.
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just to keep people from going and fighting wars where millions of innocent people are going to be dead or displaced.
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... and you've got an armed combatant behind a civilian-
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he said don't create more, don't create three terrorists by killing one.
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when did we ever apologize?
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it won't, won't mean that we can suddenly start making tee shirts in america because you've got some cambodian who will make them for 26 cents an hour.
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and so this is something that's going to change over time. but i mean the federal government has always been one, it used to be that if you took your government job...
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yet, it works at that way almost everywhere except government or places where government has dug its tentacles into the point where-
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... and it just keeps getting worse and worse. now, when we get back-
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like he clearly, i mean i don't know how he got a job writing for time magazine, but clearly this guy doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
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if you'd asked me, well what are you afraid of a direct election? i'd say, yes i am.
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i'm very afraid of direct democracy. you know who else was, you wizard of smart? you history major?
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... and we're also afraid of a direct democracy, which is why they didn't establish a democracy! let me say it again.
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we live in a constitutional republic that is different.
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the argument he is making, this is how logical his argument is. and i think more than anything, because darren and i were talking about this, i think his goal is to confuse other people.
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you guys are the losers. we had more yards than you.
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yeah, but we scored more points than you did, that's why we are the winner. "well, no, no, we scored more yards."
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... but if we judged the game, if we judged the winners and losers by who had more yards, then yes, you would be the winner. but that's not how it works!
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you didn't win, so don't refer to trump as-
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second place candidate, because he was the first place candidate.
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and we are going to construct a government by and for the people, for the individual.
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and we're going to try and construct it in a way that doesn't let majority rule.
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... and we said the senate will be elected by the states.
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then on the house, we will have the peoples.
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who's got the right to call themselves this thing or that and i get so, so i want to choke somebody.
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libertarian party's been around for 40 years, you've been able to capture 3% of the vote, 3% on the best year you've ever had 3%.
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... wonder why you can't achieve what you want to achieve? because you act like children.
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look around, and you realize that these ideas have accomplished nothing over since then for 40 years. 40 years. nothing.
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do you think that we haven't achieved what we need to and we haven't been able to work to improve our condition over the last 40 years because we haven't been pure enough?
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i can promise you this, we're going to build an army for change in this country. i promise you that.
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i'm not going, i've invested too much time, too much money, i care too much about what we're doing here to not succeed. i don't lose, you understand me? i don't lose. i win.
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now here's what you get. it's a long list, but i want you to start, let the cash register ring.
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four potatoes are brought, and four caramel apple tartlets, one omaha steak seasoning packet, plus...
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i said it the other, i said it yesterday on the show. i think this is the best deal i've ever seen that certainly that i've ever advertised. and some other stuff's pretty good. harry's razors, that's a pretty good deal.
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there's money there, there is so much money there that they can have $125 billion in just pure inefficiency.
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always makes me angry when i hear people talk about supporting the troops, and then want to ship them off to every god-forsaken country on earth to fight some senseless war that's unnecessary.
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definitely on multiple fronts, there has to be a period of healing for a country.
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