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you must've missed the memo that we were on their network. anyway, now back to sex and science hour.
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yeah. no. oh, okay. so it is the bethany bible church-
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yeah, absolutely. i mean, and no judgment. i have family that's in the industry. it's [crosstalk 00:03:52].
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so what does this say? what is the purpose of jail? is the purpose of jail to...
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okay. wait a minute. wait a minute. all right. so this is christian, obviously.
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it's ridiculous. but instead people are getting forced to go to church? between church and jail? what does that say about church? if you're going to compare that to jail-
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yeah. i think it may. and it... reading is a joy. i recognize that-
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i mean, it's not a boast by any means. i'm just saying that i... that's [crosstalk 00:04:28].that's [crosstalk 00:04:27].
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okay. they can be very different things, because i mean, you take something like lady gaga. [crosstalk 00:04:35].
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all right. i mean what are the unconscious? well, that's terrible. and what if you get a boner in the bowl? i mean, come on-
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that's for sure. in fact, we got another question about dating. we're going to be getting to that in a future episode, which maybe you'll guess the whole thing. we'll see. [crosstalk 00:04:47].
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so yeah. i want people to consider non-lethal options.
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alex, congratulations on winning the employee of the month award. does it feel as good as winning the peabody?
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i didn't know. that's very exciting. yeah. i've never been an employee of the month.
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let's go there first. yes. instead of why did you think you needed to be a lawyer or a doctor? i much prefer, did you really-
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yeah. i call it because a lot of people will say that fear of success and fear of failure. and i always feel like i have the fear of success, not the fear of failure.
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is that all the years fumbling for me, which were more than a decade if not almost three, were actually ended up giving me all these life-
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especially when you said it wasn't delusional, it was a matter of just understanding that that existed for you.yeah-
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well, it does lead me to another question. how did going to a liberal arts school prepare you to become a financial reporter?
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yeah, i know. yeah, i know-
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i was so intrigued. i heard you in an interview talking about how you did this terrific story and thought that that would enable you to move to the next level.
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describe that for people, because i don't know if people fully understand what it means when you do those kinds of junket trips and things-
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to this american life. and i thought that was really fascinating that you had to leave-
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it's interesting because i've heard someone say, "oh, this american life chose to take itself off the air, even though showtime wanted to renew the show.
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how was that transition for you?
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just kidding. i'm using the language that zappos uses and there's a method of like, self-management where everyone's equal.
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why did you leave this american life?
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but at the same time, i see when i apply for things, they expect so many different skills that aren't necessarily related.
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exactly.i was curious because i know you're doing a new comedy type media show with adam mckay, right? is that correct?yeah-
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so were you like, "we need another broey comedy show" or were you like, "i really want to work with adam mckay and my old partner."
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i mean, i asked that question because i would assume they have a lot of funding and you don't have as much funding.
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tell me what you meant by the access to people who you might not already have, what you meant by that.
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we have a blue man group podcast. it's where there's a problem, which is the blue men don't talk-
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there are a plethora of white, male hosts with podcasts about comedy and also about media.
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i would extend what i was saying to media and to public radio.
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and i was curious in terms of every facet of it.
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i was like, "i feel like you're starting out and he might have resources." i kept trying to go.
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i was like, "i don't know you really well, but i think you can make a different connection with him. and i'm sure he'd be open to it because he is a very thoughtful human being." so.
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language. and one is as a journalist who knows the benefits of having had that time to grow.
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also a false dichotomy, because the real question is, "okay, i know i need to do things that require more hours than i actually have. so how do i actually do this?"yes.
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and the second more thoughtful piece of advice that i loved hearing from you once was to shut up when you're interviewing people-
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i want to thank jelly d and ian mesa for enabling this podcast to happen and i am going to do a shout-out to all of you to please give if you can, there-
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notice that a lot of oregon towns are thinking through the same-
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the cultural world of harney county revolves mostly around fairgrounds in the outdoors.
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it's like someone on a railroad track.
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really, really important. and not thinking that building a building necessarily will solve your problem. maybe renovating building that's empty and using it. there's some very good examples-
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how you're going to maintain it and fund it over time.
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and it's in a town that's probably even smaller than that. it's way up in northern minnesota-
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and two of them failed outright. big, mucho multi-million dollar projects that were shuttered after a few years. one of them after-
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rather than have this problem of building something and then scramble-
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pieces where some kind of design came in and was imposed or financed in some top-down way.i think often-
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newcomer blood in places. i think in the case you just described, there has been some of that.
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it seems like a funny place to cast fine art statues. it's not.
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... deserted women's dress shop. and it was on the-
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no one respectable would ever even have walked up those stairs-
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... bring bronzes. pretty soon, we don't have any room left on main street, it's becoming prime property.
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in the midst of all this [shelley curtis 00:00:25] runs for city council. and then eventually is appointed mayor.
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the elements of the sad story with hope, that could be used, and i said...
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... $500 to hire a grant writer. and they said, "well, i don't know."
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then they listed help from several government agencies, economic development nonprofits, the pot of money grew to $3.8 million dollars.
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the economy had fallen away, the logging and all of that. it just basically divided the town in half. you know what i mean, it was a battle, it was a real battle.
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[roundy's 00:01:06] skill layering the flavors in dishes translated into layering essential oils. and the results are soaps like lemon grass coconut milk, and black pepper and pine.
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since main street's remodel in 2000, visitors spending in wallowa county has gone up from over $18 million dollars to over $26 million.
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when we visited, [hennis 00:01:27] had just finished the ceiling and paneling in the first room.
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all these big ideas, all this new stuff. i asked hennis, if he could bring these projects to life without changing joseph.
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the world around you, then it is if you come in with some huge developer...
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... plop down a bunch of condos and say, "we're going to have an art community here."
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i'm [april bear 00:01:51], and remember this week as harney county commissioner pete runnels says "we are..."
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... make you feel comfortable. and we'll get into that whole topic a little bit later in the show.
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that's their whole logic. well, nobody thinks email is the system of criminals and all this stuff. it's like...
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i'm so tired.
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you have been my friend. you came...
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... outweigh the needs of the many.
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on point. i'll be back with more.it is the year 91,001 bce. witness humanity's origins in hyper chromium.
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thanks for having me.
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all right, tell us what exactly is brave the world?
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so julia, where does the name, brave the world come from? does it have an origin that means something to you?
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okay, cool. it just sounded like you trailed off there for a second.
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it tends to get anyone going on a tangent, myself included. so it's a fascinating thing.
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well, you should be upset with the state for having to pay this taxes, not with [ross 00:03:09], right?
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this whole trial situation and sentencing with ross, this really has me sick to my stomach. and it's been pretty upsetting for a lot of people, i'm sure. i understand you were at the trial. were you also present at the sentencing?
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... about your experience with either of those?
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what do you mean by this?
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the violent aggression of the state against its citizens.
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the thing that's so compelling about ross is that he's so much the opposite of that. i mean, even just looking at his persona publicly, his linkedin profile...
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... he wanted to make the world a freer place by giving...
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... free. i mean, that's very close to what i hold as my...
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... i know you've been working very closely obviously with his mother [lynn 00:04:01], who's been obviously spreading his word and helping to try and to free your-
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what can maybe listeners who feel the same way do to support the family, to support legal...
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... whether monetarily or just through words of support?
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that's really awesome. and we really appreciate what you're doing to get the word...
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... elsewhere. and we'd like to talk about a few of the other projects you're working on.
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we should include that link in our show notes. and we definitely encourage you are interested to do that. so we did then want to ask you, going back and circling back around...
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how you really began all this activism in the first place? i know you began with your first video at sea.
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probably about two years ago, i'm guessing. but how did it come to this point for you? now, you're very much...
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... pieces. what attracted you to filmmaking and drove you to [inaudible 00:04:54].
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that's awesome. it's always fun hearing people's back stories and how they just have discovered these things.
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ourselves moving forward to make sure that we don't succumb to the violence of the state.
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bravetheworld.com, and from there you can find everything else. that's me, twitters that break the world, youtube channel break the world chan.
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that was it. wait, had we watched shield yet? no.
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