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he's just standing there right in the center of all of this and for once, fandom can't ignore him. [inaudible 00:00:14]
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sad, man babies. so if we need more like tortured, sad man babies of color and to see and if then they get completely ignored. exactly,
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there isn't. i did not expect this movie. i did not [inaudible 00:00:29]
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for two months because i was moving countries and i couldn't get to a movie theater and i literally went off the internet for two months and i just did not
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want to know. and everybody was like, "oh my god, like with many it's amazing, it's amazing
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and of interest". historically fandom has been very interested to see how,
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no, no, no, no, you don't understand, it's amazing. and i walked out of there with this
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reason and again, if we flip those roles, it would not have happened the same way, this
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screws up their relationships and all of that. and i'm like, yes, so am i, i am in this space i also love these.
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i love these [tropes 00:01:16], but when in the losers, when idris elba's character, completely screws up
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it's something that we don't want to talk about because it goes directly against everything we love about the space, but you cannot have it both.
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i am incredibly sad to say, i think we are running out of time, but-
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i actually, i can't. i feel like she put her finger on things that i think people have tried...
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i don't think anybody can argue with me about the fact that everybody would be like....
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characters, like dark fuck princes or whatever or tortured, sad man babies. so if we need more like torture...
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i personally got fed up with the pacific rim [fan 00:01:58] and when it became clear that the most popular ship there was newt hermann
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going to be less written about them, so there's less fun stuff to enjoy. then there's the personal level that keeps you aware of how fandom..
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like, why did you do this and him and [deputy 00:02:13] morgan,
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but it's not every [fig 00:04:11] that comes out of fandom and it's usually kudos is edgy and dark and treading on..
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take a second to question themselves and why that is? what is it about characters of color that don't appeal to them or if they do appeal to them, why are they staying silent about it?
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the person who saved us from worrying that no one would respond to our call for people because she came back to us so quickly and was...
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you know, we do power differentials. we do all kinds of things.
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so why does suddenly this particular and you get people up, you using you for all kinds of things and in various..
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anyway, time to get onto our next statement. this is from shadow keeper, right?
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hello, i'm shadow keeper, i'm mainly [affect 00:00:03:13] reader who writes occasionally. some of the fandoms i've read for recently include hannibal star wars, marvel and person of interest.
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why did there need to be? why is it
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those leftover ladies were almost always women of color
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... of the history of kirk spock, and that history should have been honored.
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and that's all anybody cares about. it was constantly reminding me of the hundreds of tiny, tiny things that people cared about.
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it's hard, one thing that i've been talking about with some people that seems like.
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i totally understand that problem of people putting in this fem slash ship as a background ship. and
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i really love writing stories that are about a slash ship and a fem slash ship interacting.
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i just find something really interesting about that, so it makes me kind of tense when i think that people are like..
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who is to say what people "quote unquote" want in their [fig 00:04:11] ? i think people want everything,
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one black man, if it's not going to be that anymore, then people are going to have people there's going to be a lot more to engage with. right. it sounds like that's what you're saying.
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we can name all sorts of sports that [inaudible 00:08:13].
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then people are going to have people there's going to be a lot more to engage with. right.
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i don't think it's a coincidence that at the moment that race and gender and fandom became a thing that people seriously started talking about..
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and then they tripped into a bunch of other issues, but they didn't have to worry about that issue and i don't think that's a coincidence.
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look, much like me and it goes a little, okay, i guess i didn't really reach a lot of people. [so 00:04:56] most of my [gun 00:04:57] .
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..both spain and the united states. and then there was japan too, for a while. so, when you look at the media here, in my part of-
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...the world, they usually say that, "it's white characters." or-
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...we are only tokens. we are only plot devices. and i was all over the place. when the news of the ghost in the shell recast came out-
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that's not the story for people who are not integrally-
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...set for me. and i'm glad to have had the chance to join this particular part-
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that's fine. yeah. so, as stated earlier, if you're listening to this, when it comes out, that'll be tomorrow, thursday, may 19th. if you're listening to it-
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coded and stuff, and it was like i said, i don't think it's... that's not an exaggeration. that's the way i think of hillary.
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about hermione when you were young and reading the books. tell me how you felt about her.
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yeah. i definitely think that. i wonder... there's definitely a lot of sexism going on in the wave. we're talking about this, as these objects of fandom.
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but i also can't imagine anyone wanting to get a tattoo of hilary, a cartoon version of hilary's head-
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i do too. but i think that maybe we should share some of our feelings with paul.yeah.
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i don't know. why are you asking me how to pronounce anything, elizabeth minkle?
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it's okay. i've got a fix. okay.
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that was like ravenclaws for obama. and so rolling into the 2012 elect-
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fandoms to hilary's graphic identity and branding. she was a little harder to work with than obama, from like a design perspective,
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she grew hot peppers in the white house garden, or whatever. and it was pictures of her lovingly, touching the peppers. it's like, "oh.". and then-
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hillary, no, no, no, no, no. don't-don't make that joke.you're like, "no, no. i like hot-
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... foreign policy in the middle east or something.
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oh, and we have a note about this. but people will be like, "well, i only like [inaudible 00:01:56] they use when it's in the-
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no, i think basically all the records of berlin's early existence have been destroyed. so, a lot of stuff has been based on archeological finds.
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yes. it's in märkisches museum. i strongly recommend anyone listening to the program, go to the märkisches museum. if you want to go to an unusual berlin museum-
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...or something offbeat, definitely go there. but next to the museum, or not far away is the bärenzwinger, which i can't really translate.
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and it's where two bears, schnute and maxi have been living since 81, and 86 respectively. so their children of the gdr-
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...i think if you've get anything there now. but it used to be quite an oddity that area. but you should go out and check out schnute and maxi, because they might be out in meck-pomm, soon enough.
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...burg. it was dark as well by now-
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and this is racism, pure and simple racism, putting these two things together-
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...crime, and color of skin. and this is what we are against. this we call, racial profiling.
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he lived in berlin. and in fact, that track is called enklava. enklava, being named after a club in neukölln, a former club, a scary little place. it was a little basement that you had to crawl down a hole-
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you didn't bump into any white rabbits when you were down there, or caterpillars, giant caterpillars on toadstools, and stuff?i don't even know what that means.alice in wonderland.
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and party tourism promotes higher rents, because the more you have people coming there, the more the rent is going to go up.
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no, or community spirit, because from what i've heard about bavaria, they're not the most friendly of people on the planet. sorry, bavarians. i'm sure you're lovely, but-
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don't go out there and just tell lies.yeah.this is the part that really does annoy me. don't tell lies.
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i have been using my unfollow on facebook, like crazy. i have not unliked people, because i still like people.
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and i'm not making predictions, because i don't know yet-
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an evaluation they call it. and it's gotten tremendous marks, thousands. i don't mean two people. i mean, thousands-right.[crosstalk 00:04:04] it.
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i have a judge that never ever gives over. now we lose-
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they made up charges against me. what's going on here?
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wait. if anybody-that's amazing to me. when jake tapper said to him, "i don't want to litigate this case.", trump turned around and said, "no, you have to."have to, yeah.well, you know?so, he's not even listening-
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now, here's something i find interesting, and i want to get this out.
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he just wanted any other judge. and now he's busy complaining that this case was shopped around to other judges, when earlier he wanted to shop this case around for a judge that he liked.
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i don't think that's how this works.
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no, it's not how it works, but that's how trump thinks it should work. trump thinks he should be able to pick his own judge.
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hispanics, because i'm going to bring back jobs and they're going to get jobs, right now. they're going to get jobs. i think i'm going to do very well with hispanics. but we're building a wall-
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he's a mexican. we're building a wall between here and mexico.
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now tapper is specifically asking him about this racist line of speech.yes.
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met a mexican once and so therefore i might be of mexican descent.
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you know, it was basically over several weeks of conversations. i didn't know the guy at all before he got the nomination. quite frankly, i didn't expect-
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... the nomination to be clinched until june 7th at the earliest. so i never had the time to put the time into talking with-
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... donald about just the country about principles and policies-
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... but donald trump's somebody i know is comfortable with these principles and these general policies.
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and it's basically coming to that conclusion, which you can't do over the phone, one time. it takes a little time.
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that this guy had been kicked out. he comes back and he kills somebody.statistics, you always have the worst, and i don't want to in any way defend the worst, but statistically-
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well.you know, the interesting-yes.... thing is that gary johnson was talking about, you know-
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no, it looks like they weren't.
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... hey donnie, it's not all about you-
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the more i hear about this story, the more i'm starting to wonder that he is running his... he ran for president in order to litigate this case.
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... in the public realm.yep.i know it's crazy-
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... but i swear to god because he just, he's talking about this more and more and more, and that case is coming up in-well.... six months.
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i'll be seeing you in november.
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i just want to tell you something that unlike donald trump, i have never retweeted a twitter bot.
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