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assume that many of you will agree that this picture is deeply problematic.
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this is sometimes called care, or affective labor, or in the coldion problematic subjectivation.
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sort of like the split between the owners and the producers.
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and of course, in a world where money is the primary medium of power.
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now, seeing what happens with bitcoin in the absence of any public power to.
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that is absolutely constitutive of capitalist society, and that's the division between economy and polity.
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these divisions are mutating also today. as neo-liberalism is increasingly hollowing out.
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the political capacities on which capital has historically relied.
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at both the state and geopolitical levels. and as a result of this hollowing out of public powers, political powers.
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you might want to ask what sort of animal is capitalism.
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it may appear at first sight, if we look only at the foreground that its core features are economic.
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mutual responsibility and solidarity, even though it must be said they.
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it's non accidental structural imbrication with gender oppression.
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ideals of care, solidarity, and mutual.
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struggles, boundaries struggles. and i think they decisively shape the structure of capitalist societies.
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so when the separations fail to hold capitalism's subjects, who all of us, who after all live in more than one sphere.
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experience a kind of normative conflict. and as i say, we start to talk in the wrong way.
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we are mobilizing against the green.
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outside of capitalism, and as inherently opposed to it.
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these are effective actively economies others, and they only acquire their specific character.
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capitalism's non-economic realms have a weight and character of their own.
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production is not self-sustaining. i think luxembourg was absolutely right on this point.
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in my case, between economy and society, economy in nature, economy and polity.
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is as i noted before to incite a very broad range of social struggles in capitalist societies.
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so this table is got to be filled soon now.
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with people connecting to the keynote of jillian, translating activism into political action is a theme. how to transport online-
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give examples and stories of these four activists in different stages of life.
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and it was very, very essential and crucial in the also successful anti-actor campaign in poland. thanks for being with us-
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you thinking communication scheme behind 2003 has been blogging since more than 10 years on [inaudible 00:03:12].
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about politics in the digital society and is an expert in the enquete-commission, the study commission of the german bundestag on-
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on internet and digital society. thanks for being here.
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our headquarters, as we say, for the work we do internationally and nationally here in germany—
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she has been in the executive board of the foundation since '96—
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i certainly have been working a long time also before the internet even was born for political activism. so that makes it interesting to have you here. thanks clive.
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who, as i mentioned before, was one of the key initiators in the anti-actor campaign in poland.
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what kind of likelihood of success would've had the anti-actor campaign [00:00:50] without the internet, tell us.
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the question seems to be quite rhetorical, right? there would not be actor campaign without internet. we wouldn't even know about actor.
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but certainly it was, i mean, there will be zero chance to do anything about actor without the net—
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for the internet. so that's the first stage. the second stage of course, is mobilizing in the sense of—
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my experience with fighting actor is not the longest one. if i look at this rose, i don't feel very comfortable about
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bringing that issue to the broader audience. and only on that thing, we started building our legal campaigns step by step—
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back then two years ago, nobody really believing that it has any chance at all, because it was so complicated, so technical, so karmic that we fought in poland.
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nevertheless, we were doing our stuff and we were doing this online because it was easy. it was cheap.
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and we thought the case is lost. and then sopa and ppa and wikipedia protest came—
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in poland, and then there was one weekend back in january, 2000—
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the 12th, right? i'm going confused with the dates now.
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but when things happened so quickly, so quickly that nobody including myself would.
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predicted it. so we were ready with our letters of protest with our—
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it will be maybe news on the first page of one newspaper, but that's all that was friday. and over the weekend.
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i know 10,000 people, it was blocked because of the traffic because.
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did to get [inaudible 00:03:49] appeals. and again, that kind of dynamics that kind of.
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gave it the name of terrorists. people really get pissed off and only then they moved to the streets.
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and it definitely worked nobody of us expected that it worked, but it worked that we—
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yeah. had another two or years that there was no decision. and
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lots of people saw it. youtube will be blocked tomorrow. so 100,000 people went to the street and we were totally surprised. we organized the demonstration here in berlin. we expected 600—
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but they thought say they must watch television tomorrow. if actor comes and blocks youtube and throw them into the streets—
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they could get informations on our website. we had all these informations gathered with 100 people, maybe worldwide over the last years
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and without the internet, it wouldn't have been possible. and without the internet, it wouldn't have been possible that we get 100,000 people on the streets within days in germany—
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without any central mobilization, it was totally de-central. some demonstrations were organized by pirate parties. some by—
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how can i help? and i think that that's kind of one of those interesting things, because acta just like sopa and pipa had global implications.
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a digital space in germany. he's not only an activist, but he's a theoretical mind.
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i mean, we, we, we do essentially the same stuff online and offline, but.
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i do agree the same world, but there are two dimensions so to say that the street and the internet.
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so being at least in poland, being active on this street takes totally different skills, resources, language, tactics, people you need to have with yourself.
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tweaks, how to create information, how to make it alive. because as everybody knows, if you want to create a meme or a viral, you fail. i mean,
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it's like fishing or, i mean, it takes a very, a lot of
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intuition and a lot of experience, which for example, we don't have so much. so for me, the first lesson is that you really have to
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think separately about the two and then you have to also think twice.
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action online, which is not translated into any action offline.
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things went that far as they went in poland because the government completely ignored online activity for a week.
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so people started with low numbers, and they were frustrated with lack of response. so the numbers grew, and the activity grew, and the hackers came into play. all this was happening because there was-
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but maybe this is the case of many other government. they will simply ignore it because for them it's not real enough.
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right? then we also have this phenomenon of people clicking, "i like this action. i'm part of this action," and thinking, "that's it. i'm done."
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this is probably the majority of people clicking in various campaigns and appeals online, and that's a huge problem.
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i see some grinning... wrote this piece a couple of years ago, said, "the revolution will not be tweeted." he went on to not to be tweeted.
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"we had readings, we had meetings. we talked all the time. we knew each other in person. we knew each other very well. you can't form those connections on the internet." that's what he said.
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that's how these things happen. sometimes it's in a room like this. sometimes it's through a network. like, for example, i'm part of an organization called global voices, which has built up over the past-
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eight years maybe.
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but people build these connections. then when somebody needs help-
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they reached out to that community first, and we were able to help them get out of their country.
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that's the kind of thing that can happen through these networks. so how do you translate that into offline? to be honest-
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this is someone whose emails i see constantly, and i feel like, "okay-
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we have sometimes absolutely no clue, but who are so powerful, and they are mostly not really evil. they just have no clue.
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they're basically fighting against something. it's not like we are building some sort of idea how it should be.
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i don't think there's a difference. i'm quite aware of that, and this is just the reason because i want to encourage you.
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... movement we started with this kind of entire-
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this threshold for this kind of tone. otherwise, you will not escape from this-
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there are a number of different kinds of conflicts that exist there. i think that we have to find a way to get past those and build coalitions around those and bring in stakeholders from other fields as well.
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lots of more work with the same resource-
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just take like two or three hours, you don't get it. what's the main issue there? we just have to fight-
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companies from the us which are trying to do lobbying in europe in ways-
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we...
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... see right now. it's really about civil rights and stuff like that.
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so on that point, i think we not only need to defend internet. we need a good regulation for internet against, for example, big corporations.
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here we need the state and we need institutions to help us. so it has to be proactive.
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we almost lost the case in poland because of the fact that people three months after the huge-
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probably people got convinced by our arguments. when we explain them why acta is not so bad, they-
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... any spokespeople because there were no spokespeople for the massive-
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... mobilizations, which could not explain. nobody can explain these kind of changes.
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politicians get the voice and they start to interpret what happens online.
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