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Maybe for him and whatever lot his ammo came out of, I got 1092 FPS, thats shit and way way slower than the 1246 or so he was showing.
I know my Garmin Xero is working well because my .308 ammo was going 2778 FPS, which was dead on the money since the box quoted 2780 FPS and my "1000" FPS 9mm was coming out of my HK ... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
Great to know. I definitely appreciate the input. Now I need a Garmin Xero. lol! | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
Grizzly had a sale a couple months ago for 9mm JHP, I picked up 4 boxes @$8.99 a box. It was crazy. Glad I did. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-20-07 |
Crazy good deal! | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-20-07 |
God I hate it when the American flag is displayed incorrectly. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-05-08 |
I was scrolling through the internet looking for other 10mm practice ammo brands to feed my Glock 20 when I get to take it home, and I came across this brand claiming 1300 out of a 5’ barrel. What are your experiences with this brand? GTG or nah? | r/10mm | post | r/10mm | 2024-16-07 |
I bought a ton of their 45-70 during Covid. Really good ammo and the owner is super nice. Mines came in starline brass | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-16-07 |
What’s the cpr? | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-16-07 |
$0.6998 per round | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-16-07 |
It's good stuff, accurate and powerful for range ammo. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-16-07 |
https://www.bereli.com/10b/?sku=10B%20-%201000&avad=74383_b3af85e7d
Magtech is as close to full power 10mm range ammo you can get without reloading. $420 for 1000 with free shipping. I can't speak to how friendly they are, cause we'll most non-"mom and pop" companies are terrible. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-16-07 |
I asked about steinel in the lever gun group for 44 mag and few other things. Nothing but positives. They use good brass and make quality stuff. I'm just a little poor to dump 400 plus on a thousand rounds right now. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-16-07 |
That’s a tough sell when magtech can be had for .40 | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-16-07 |
Good ammo across the board. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
Very friendly | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
I use their .45 Colt bear 315 gr Ruger only loads for my RedHawk. Steinel’s a great company. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
Never bought their 10mm but their .38/200 loads are nice for my old Webley revolver | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
Dang, I forgot about them! I still have a box of their 180 fmjs and those things are excellent! Very reminiscent of sig's fmjs, and they load with starline brass! I don't have a chrono but these absolutely FELT like advertised velocity. Granted, I'm shooting a G40 with a 6.5in kkm barrel but I'll vouch for em'. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-23-07 |
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Aaaaaaaand now I’m jealous | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-16-07 |
Great piece. Report back to us how it does on the shooting range. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-16-07 |
Makes 10mm feel like .40 | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-16-07 |
i have one too, its super smooth | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-16-07 |
Are the original P220 series of SIG pistols as huge as they always look in photos? These things always look massive, way bigger than your modern polymer framed pistols. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
It’s about the size of a 1911 | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-20-07 |
Sexy biotch!!! | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-21-07 |
I'm waiting for mine to be shipped | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-25-07 |
Nice I hope you enjoy it | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-25-07 |
Great Choice my wife got me one back in Sept 2019 for our anniversary and I love her and my wife too. lol
I believe that the SIG P220 10mm Auto Legion is the BEST Production 10mm pistol in the market today! I do wish that SIG would bring back the P227 with an All Steel Frame and a 5 inch 10mm barrel like the P220 but ... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-27-07 |
Nice legion. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-28-07 |
Do you personally know Magtech is "full power" from first hand testing with chrono / reactionary targets, or just internet hearsay?
I read a lot of people talking about this particular brand, but don't see a lot of testing of it vs other similarly priced brands - by reviewers I actually trust.
so - is this a case o... | r/10mm | post | r/10mm | 2024-16-07 |
Yeah, a bunch of people chronoed the results, including thus guy:
https://www.reddit.com/r/10mm/s/OyOs4fxl9T
There are also a bunch of YouTube vids.
First hand, I can tell it's proper loaded from recoil impulse alone, compared to others like S&B. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-16-07 |
I've shot it side by side with other ammo brands, and it definitely hit harder. I have a few videos on my page with it | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-16-07 |
Have shot Blazer,Sig,Armscor,Freedom, underwood and magtech. In my opinion, magtech is slightly hotter than .40 s&w. Blazer barely meets the standard, Sig is a good 10mm load. Underwood is Norma spec and is exactly what 10mm was supposed to be. If it’s just practice ammo, buy what you can find. For defensive I would go... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-16-07 |
Yeah I've shot everything you mentioned and would set Magtech as the acceptable minimum for 10mm range ammo. The Underwood range supply is my standard for range ammo but I have to mailorder it so I don't always have it. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-16-07 |
You're asking people on the internet to confirm or refute other people on the internet? It's a bold move, Cotton. Let's see how it plays out. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-16-07 |
Seems the Europeans and South Americans like powder. :) | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-16-07 |
Nothing you buy off the shelf is "full power" 10mm from a retail sporting goods store. Too many lawsuits from guys with gun barrels blowing up.
There are some boutique brands that are serious snot stomping loads but only from a gun shop (DoubleTapp Buffalo).
Ask any 10mm, reloader. We can put a 200 grain round on t... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
Its hotter than most off the shelf stuff but still not “Full power” 10mm .I have chronoed a bit of it with 2 different length barrels in a XDM elite 10mm with these results .
Magtech 180gr FMJ -FPS
4.5” bbl-1221, 1209, 1212, 1218, 1217, 1206, 1205, 1195, 1190, 1210
-5.28” threaded bbl= 1246, 1226, 1222, 1246, 1221 ... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
First define full power? Second go to Balistics 101 among other reputable web sites and look for the original Norma specs they developed the 10mm cartridge specs for Jeff Cooper. Internet is a wonderful thing social media not so much. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-20-07 |
10mm Magtech ammo is 605 ft-lbs and 615 ft-lbs. That is about... 80% 10mm power potential.
10mm Auto can easily push 800-815 ft-lbs with handloads or expensive self-defense loads.
Magtech providing 615 ft-lbs for the price per round is a good deal. Good practice ammo. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-22-07 |
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Cool. Got a picture? | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
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Results from XTen and Garmin Xero C1 Pro Chronograph
Left 1158 is Magtech, right 1160 is American Ordnance | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
Seems pretty low | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
pretty low comoared to the 1235 fps box speed on magtech but there are alot of factors to consider in these tests like the barrel, the distance of chrono and even its calibration and environment factors. I appreciate tests they gotta keep the numbers up to deserve the full power creds
Also its worth noting that this i... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
THANK YOU! I knew that stuff was internet hype.... people just parroting the paid shills on youtube. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
Lower than expected, but I wanted to compare these two rounds under the same conditions. I previously clocked the Magtech at 1183 indoors, at a 15 degree lower ambient temp. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
The Garmin is self calibrating radar, nothing I could change about that. I might try moving the target further downrange and see if that changes anything. Enviromentally these sessions were outdoors, temp \~90F, humidity >60%, definitely not the best weather. All of the ammo I shot that day measured slower than the sam... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
You're welcome. Planning on posting more results soon.
Most of the ammo I've tested has been slower than the manufacturers specs.
In terms of price/performance, Magtech is the the king of 10mm range ammo. Faster than S&B, cheaper and slightly faster than Blazer Brass. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
thx for the info
moose vs 10mm [video](https://www.indianagunowners.com/threads/10mm-vs-moose.518899/)
and podcast convo | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
Awww man the American ordnance stuff is way under advertised | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
What firearm did you use? Was really hoping for the American ordnance to be as advertised, would’ve been the new cheap hot ammo | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
536 ft lbs is still a good bit more than off the shelf 40 s&w. But I would want it to be closer to 600-620 ft lbs. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
You're right if you're going to carry a big heavy 10 mm you should at least get 600+ ft lbs | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
Internet commandos are FAR too concerned with "full power 10mm" especially when they are shooting it out of 4" plastic guns. The round was designed for a full 5" barrel, all steel pistol. The outright lie of it being close to 41 magnum is a joke, it's way more akin to 357 magnum - which is exactly where you want to be ... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
Sig Xten 5" | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-19-07 |
huh, i was getting about 1200 (chronoed) out of my g29 with magtech back like 2 years ago, both the JHP and FMJ. i'd estimate 1180-1200. around the same atmospheric conditions too, ~90f, 60~80% humidity.
shit like this is why i switched to reloading 10 exclusively, i do shoot magtech but only because i'd thought it wa... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-19-07 |
If anyone is looking for a holster ready to ship!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/256566333301?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=6_K3XqMXTHO&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=6_K3XqMXTHO&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY | r/10mm | post | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
Underwood 200g Hard Cast for The Woodz
Hornady 155g XTP Custom (non Underwood) for The Hoodz | r/10mm | post | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
9mm is probably sufficient for anything you’ll run into in North Carolina. But hey, better to be overpowered than underpowered. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
I know that wholeheartedly, but I used the “bear gun 10mm master race” mantra as an exaggerated reason to buy a 10mm 😂 | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
How has your reliability been with the g29? I picked one up a couple months ago on a steal. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
No malfunctions/jams/FTF/FTE whatsoever. I’ve put Magtech 180g FMJ, Underwood 200g and Hornady through it and it’s a beast. Yep, got mine on a steal too at $70 less than than 29 SF and Gen 4. Which do you have? | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
I have the gen 5 and I got it for 450 bones used. I've had 2 FTE in about 500 rounds. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
$450?? 😳 that is a steal. Nice I probably have shot 720 rounds. Gotta shoot more before my hikes! | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
😂 | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
I’ve got a gen 3 Glock 29sf and the only issue I had was with a mag. It was a Glock OEM mag for a Glock 20 and the slide won’t lock back when the mag is empty. Other than that, no issues. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
Bruh I haven't even seen one around and you getting steals and shit God bless | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-19-07 |
I found it at my LGS. Some salesman sold it to like an 80 yr old lady and she brought it back after one mag lol. Her loss I guess | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-19-07 |
Yeah some salesman at my LGS sold it to some 80 yr old lady who brought it back after one mag. Her loss. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-19-07 |
😭😭😭 it was all part of the plan that gun got your name on it poor ole lady at least she had a BLAST | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-19-07 |
A lot of wild animal parks nearby, always good to be ready for an escaped tiger or Carol Baskins | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-20-07 |
Im confused with this ammo because it seems to be well reviewed by people like Tools&Targets on Youtube but I bought 3 different types of this ammo and all of them were very under performant. I was shooting with a brand new Glock 20 Gen 5 MOS. S&B 180 grain FMJ averaged 1027 FPS and felt like 9mm recoil. I can only im... | r/10mm | post | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
Chrono don’t lie, I’d contact the manufacturer | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
I tried calling their customer service number a few times today and no one picked up the phone. If you read the Google reviews these guys are really suspect. Seem to have a lot of QC issues. So while some batches could be good, others may be totally screwed up.
I have always used Buffalo bore and Underwood in the past... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
At least yours is functioning, a coworker of mine can't get it to cycle in his Glock 20. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
Jesus, well, it doesn't surprise me with how these were clearly loaded incorrectly in some way. They must have some severe QC issues. Its a damn shame because we have Youtubers singing their praises so more people are gonna get screwed by this company. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
Not saying this is what’s going on, because I just don’t wanna bother to look up the ammo or dive down another hole looking for the answer. But There is a decent chance that the fps stated on the box is the fps when coming out of a longer barrel, depending on whatever barrel length they used for testing. Not saying thi... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
I thought about that but it’s not applicable in this case, a YouTuber reviewed the same stuff and was getting like 1260 FPS on the 1250 FPS stuff. He was also using a Glock 20. I saw another person in a review get 1263 FPS. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
I figured you already knew about it just by seeing your chrono😂 but figured it was better said than not. Good luck with the issue big dawg. The best I can say is if they’re an ammo company worth using they’ll make this right and reimburse you or send you more. If you still aren’t satisfied or they turn out to be booty... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
The firearms industry pays the gun toobers to create positive reviews of their products. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
some batches are bad, can happen to any manufacturer even my fav underwood. Whats interesting is that ammo is still within the range to stop big game.
The hsm bear load is only box rated at 1041 fps in the 200 gr hardcast but look at the grizzly it took in Alaska from a g20. Ammo got through the chest and broke its s... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
Maybe they changed it, maybe they didn't.
Or maybe your stock recoil spring isn't strong enough to keep the action closed long enough to develop full pressure. Are the case rims buggered up like there was hard extraction? | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
I did not take a look at the spent cases, however this was a brand new Glock 20 Gen 5 MOS. I have a hard time believing the recoil spring would be an issue in a brand new gun. I will buy some underwood and see what it does.
The fact that the 180 grain manages 1220 FPS means the 200 should have done better than it did. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
The stock recoil spring is meant to reliably **cycle** everything from the weakest loaded 10mm to the hottest boutique loadings. It's not meant to get max velocity from the hottest loadings at the cost of not being able to cycle the weakly loaded commonly available ammunition.
That said, Grizzly ammo is the only ammo ... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
The issue I have is that a YouTuber also had a stock recoil spring and still was getting 1260 FPS.
So I don’t think the recoil spring idea really tracks.
Edit: They may have had a Gen 4. Apparently Gen 5 can have a weaker spring? | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
Now that I looked into it, you might be right, the Gen 5 may come with a weaker spring. Buffalo bore had this to say:
>*Full power 10mm ammo has always generated enough recoil and pressure to require a pretty stiff recoil spring in your handgun - this of course depends on several variables such as your slide weight, e... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
💯 Agree with this, I have only found 3 manufacturers that met or exceeded rated muzzle velocity and energy, and they do not meet it in EVERY loading.🤷♂️
Buffalo Bore 180 grain JHP, Sig V Crown Elite Defender 180 grain JHP, and Underwood's XTP loadings all have 180gr defensive ammo that performs as advertised.👍
Add... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
Lmao you trust Youtuber’s.Really bro?
To be fair those chronographs are close to original Norma spec loads if I remember correctly. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
I trust what their chronos read I mean they don’t lie. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-17-07 |
I’ll be curious to see how this works for you. I’m hoping it solves the lower velocity issues. If so, I’ll piggyback off you and try the same. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
Yeah, you gotta take YouTube reviews with a grain of salt. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
The problem with grizzly ammo is that it's not UNDERWOOD. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
All ammunition companies should be publicly shamed with real chronograph results.
So far the only exceptions I know are Buffalo Bore and HSM who both tend to under report velocities a bit. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
I can't be certain that's the issue here vs underloaded compared to box spec ammo...but a gun opening up too soon will absolutely cost you some velocity and open your spread way up. Instead of that gas being used to push the bullet, some of it escapes out the ejection port.
I kinda doubt that's the full issue here but... | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
I did end up picking up a 22 lbs spring, someone else on a forum said it made their Gen 5 run better with hot 180+ grain loads. Feels kind of wack that I have to even do this on a brand new gun. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
Could be the Glock 20 | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
22 lbs recoil spring is ordered and on the way. | r/10mm | comment | r/10mm | 2024-18-07 |
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