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Yeah, that was my worry with the xdm. And I’m using it for the same purpose—your points make sense to me. I may also experiment with a dot later, but for now I’ll stick with training with irons
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2024-30-07
People always complain about new tech.
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2024-30-07
Sure, but new tech doesn’t mean the old tech is obsolete in every scenario
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2024-30-07
Well they’re like $300 cheaper
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2024-30-07
I completely agree you can run suppressor sights and use both I do.
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2024-30-07
I’m iron sights guy, only worthwhile dots for me are the Holosun Comp green. I have astigmatism, but I just the 32 MoA and don’t see doubles with that. The dot feels like cheating it’s that good. I tried C-More 12 MoA RTS, 8 MoA CRC, Shield XL and opted for the comp on all my OR pistols.
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2024-30-07
The gun is too small to mount one (for deep concealment situations). It being an antiquated design/style that you own for fun, not for real use. That's it.
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2024-30-07
You can use an optic or not, but it makes no practical difference either way. Practice with irons, you get really good with irons. Practice with an optic, you get really good with an optic. Neither one is better or worse, just different, and you can be just as fast, accurate and capable with either.
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2024-30-07
You can have both or one or neither
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2024-30-07
I agree with this. If most likely you have to go to your pistol against a brown bear. 97 % (my guess) you are pointing and praying. Sights be damned
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2024-30-07
The only time I have ever pulled a pistol in self defense was against a charging wild boar that was wounded incidentally when another hog was taken. I emptied a .357 revolver and kept pulling the trigger, I did NOT have a sight picture. I hit him 4 out of 6 shots and he fell 2 feet from me and I was very glad I had wen...
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2024-30-07
I prefer irons for everyday carry. I've shot irons my whole life and it is instinctual. However, a couple years ago I missed a buck cause my muzzle loader failed to fire so I resorted to the 10mm. Irons were real hard to see at dusk in the woods so I decided to throw a dot on it. Couldn't be happier, and have taken two...
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2024-30-07
There are a lot of "trick of the week" types these days when it comes to firearms and firearm accessories. But real world use is an entirely foreign concept to them for some reason? Red Dot = aiming for video game generation Iron Sight = aiming for the previous gens point and shoot = what you'll probably do in a...
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2024-30-07
My eyesight makes it difficult to use any optic other than a scope (which I have on my rifle). My handguns are for CCW so I’d rather use iron sights. I don’t intend to engage at long distances and would rather not depend upon something which could fail. Just because it may use technology to create a better product d...
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2024-30-07
If there is a good chance your shit is gunna get wet, go with irons. I love dots and have them on half of my pistols, but in heavy rain, on a boat or trudging through the woods, water on the glass obscures the dot making it hard to get a precise shot. That problem does not exist with irons.
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2024-30-07
Irons on my G40 for bear defense on my chest rig while hunting. If I’m pulling it there’s only a few seconds and it is KISS situation and reliability is top priority
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2024-31-07
The pistols I take hunting with me do not have dots. I've tried it, doesn't work out well. Hunting in Alaska is rough on gear, especially auxiliary gear that hangs off of you in some way. Dots get excessively dirty and scratched or caked in snow/mud/grass in a way that irons don't. And for something you'll probably ...
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2024-31-07
If you're more proficient with iron sights I'd say go with that. I'd definitely want tritium low light/night sights. If running a dot, closed emitter is probably better. While then glass can still be obscured by dirt, it's less likely to fail. Personally, I'm better with iron sights to a certain distance, but als...
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2024-01-08
Gen4 g40 Piramid gen2 trigger DD yikes 3.0 connector Aw barrel Holosun reddot Sico hybrid 46 (use on my bushmaster as well) Set up for deer and pig hunting
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2024-30-07
Very nice. What distance did you take that buck at?
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2024-30-07
He was about 15-20 yards. I hit high lungs and clipped the main artery below his spine. He went maybe 30 yards
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2024-30-07
What ammo were you using?
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2024-30-07
180gr winchester defender bonded jhp
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2024-30-07
Great setup I'm not sure if I would want to eventually put a can on my G40 yet... It seems like it's too much of a hassle to get one 😔 and in the event I would ever get one I would most likely put it on a Carbine
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2024-30-07
I was kinda the same till I got one. But I got one that I could put on anything I own up to a 338 lupa mag . It was mainly purchased to have on my 450 bm after i shot a deer and could not hear well for a hour or so. It is Definitely a heavy/bulky set up. But nice part is I can always just unscrew it.
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2024-30-07
Okay so post a video of its sound because I was debating doing this lmao
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2024-30-07
What round are you running? Or what fps you want to hear?
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2024-30-07
i don’t know shit about silencers but are u saying u can theoretically use one can for everything up to its maximum caliber? obviously wouldn’t be optimal but if possible that seems too good to be true lol
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2024-30-07
I was thinking of getting a can for my g40! But I ultimately decided not to and got a better suppressor for my rifle instead but I would love to hear what a suppressed g40 sounds like.
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2024-30-07
Short answer is yes. I use this can for about 30-40 different calibers they have a list somewhere on all the calibers that this one can be used with
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2024-30-07
I'm going to shoot it Saturday if it doesn't rain. I will take a video and post it
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2024-30-07
Nice!! What trigger is that?
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2024-30-07
Gen 2 Pyramid flat face
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2024-30-07
Where did you get your threaded barrel?
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2024-30-07
I need one for a gen 5 20
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2024-30-07
Found it at a gun show. They were always out of stock when I looked online
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2024-30-07
Back in 2007 to 2009 hunting seasons, I had gotten into hand gun hunting deer with a 8" .357 revolver, for some reason, the thought of using my XDmElite has never occured to me... That is until I saw this post.... Now I am thinking...🤔..... Nice buck.👊
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2024-30-07
I run it just like I'm bow hunting, set up for 10-40 yard shots
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2024-30-07
So weak stuff. Glad to know if I was using my underwood 180s it would have preformed even better
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2024-30-07
KKM has them. I have one of their 6" barrels for my G20. It's a tack driver.
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2024-31-07
Hit up Capital Armory, I was very hesitant about my first can because I didn't want to deal with the hassle...the people there walked me through everything including doing a screen share session with me for the stuff I had to fill out for myself and setting up a trust for myself and loved ones. After the initial setup...
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2024-31-07
I just got the sweetest Rapide Dawn, but it’s not milled for an optic. Is it worth the trouble and expense, and if so, where should I send it to have it done?
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2024-30-07
I'm not sure they're any good but you could look into a rear sight dovetail red dot plate 🤷🏻 good luck
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2024-30-07
Not sure about about any for riptides but I have one on a tanfoglio and it holds zero I run aac at 50yds pretty commonly no issues after a few hundred years
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2024-30-07
I had green tick tactical mill a tisas d10 slide for a 507k. Keep in kind you’ll be removing slide weight and you’ll need to mess with the mainspring and recoil spring to account for that change potentially (definitely if you’re firing heavy reloads)
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2024-30-07
That right there is enough reason not to do it then.
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2024-30-07
I wouldn’t say that, but if you don’t want to potentially tinker then I wouldn’t
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2024-30-07
I’d keep that pistol as is. 😎👍
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2024-30-07
Best left as is!
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2024-30-07
I'd leave it just like that.
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2024-31-07
If it was a cheapo RIA with GI sights I'd say full send, but that looks like a nice gun with nice sights so I'd leave it all be
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2024-31-07
Yeah changing springs is easy
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2024-31-07
I personally think a 1911 should stay as is. Just add a 2011 to your collection and that’s perfect for a red dot.
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2024-31-07
Just ordered a 20c and some underwood ammo, I hear 2 things about this sorta set up. 1 Never had an issue in 10 years 1000 rounds ect. 2 It jams 20% of the time Factory new out of the box what’s the percentage this thing just runs. Am I overthinking? Lmk what works for your 20c.
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2024-30-07
It’s a glock so It’ll run fine. Just don’t over lube it. 
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2024-30-07
I just ordered the 20C too. Also ordered a 20L slide and 6 inch Glock hunting barrel to have the ability to change out. Been looking at these Underwood as well. They swear the coating is made to run hard cast in these glock barrels.
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2024-30-07
I sure hope so, I’ve heard people can be unlucky I hope it’s not me
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2024-30-07
What kind of recoil springs are you using on a Glock 20 gen 5. I have a carver custom I uncaptured guide rod with a bushing and 22lb recoil spring. I also have a Kkm threaded barrel on there. I’ve shot magtech 180gr range ammo as well as blazer 180gr and the Glock doesn’t return to battery I have to give it a small t...
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2024-30-07
I think the issue might be that for a new and somewhat heavy recoil spring the ammo you're shooting isn't snapping that slide back with enough authority to completely chamber a new round, I'd wager some heavier ammo or just running a couple boxes of whatever might work the kinks out. Edit: I missed that last part, sou...
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2024-30-07
Thanks!
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2024-31-07
Want a TIN barrel for my longslide threaded
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2024-30-07
Heres my baby. Eats everything. I just dont understand why they dont get more love.
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2024-30-07
Hogue grip band thingy majigy? What’s it called?
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2024-30-07
Hogue 17300 handall grip fror the Springfield XD40. I trimmed the back bottom peice.
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2024-30-07
How you like the cylee bear ?
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2024-30-07
Couple hundred rounds and no issues. My only complaint is i had to cut down the mounting screw being too long caused my plate to bend up.
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2024-30-07
What rounds are you using? I bought one a couple weeks ago and it’s been shooting consistently low. I figured it was a mix of user error and cheap ammo (180 grain blazer). Don’t have much of an ammo selection where I’m at. Not adverse to ordering online, but not sure what to go with. Probably underwood tho. Thanks in a...
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2024-30-07
Ive used Blazer,Herders,Federal, Winchester and a few different Underwood coated hardcast 200 and 220gr. Not one hiccup. I also added the 5.25 in barrel. I never even shot it with the factory match barrel
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2024-31-07
Think I seen someone else say something similar
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2024-31-07
I love mine! One of the best shooting 10’s I have.
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2024-04-08
I call’er Mrs Packman cause she eats everything!!!!
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2024-30-07
Nice!! How much did it cost you overall with the optic? Went with the Glock 29.5, it was more expensive than xDM and no optic cut 😂
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2024-30-07
I got the bundle that came with 5 mags and the range bag for $549.99 after tax it was like $580 and some change got the TLR 7x on sale from gunmag warehouse for $129.99 and got the Defender-St for $239.99 on OpticsPlanet for their 4th of July sale and got the plus 3 baseplates from springer precision for $35 a piece I ...
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2024-30-07
Slim fit holsters are awesome!
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2024-30-07
Definitely are I have 5 different holsters from them💯
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2024-30-07
Me too! Only holster I use now. They’re local to me and really good guys.
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2024-30-07
That’s dope that ur close they have the best lead times for custom holsters that I know that I like and a big selection for whatever you are carrying!!!
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2024-30-07
And there wedge is the best I’ve had to date!
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2024-30-07
Excellent choice, I love mine.👊
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2024-30-07
Definitely bro,appreciate it 💯
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2024-30-07
I love mine.
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2024-02-08
Definitely, and I don’t understand why the XDM’s don’t get as much love cause this particular firearm is great all around!!!!
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2024-02-08
A beauty, love Springfield!
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2024-03-08
I appreciate it!!!💯
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2024-03-08
See previous post : [https://www.reddit.com/r/10mm/comments/1e5rm7l/wtf\_is\_going\_on\_with\_grizzly\_10mm\_ammo/](https://www.reddit.com/r/10mm/comments/1e5rm7l/wtf_is_going_on_with_grizzly_10mm_ammo/) I now have my 22 lbs recoil spring and aftermarket Gen 5 guide rod so went out to the range this past saturday to ...
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2024-30-07
Good data points. I usually figure about 100fps per inch of barrel give or take so with the new spring maybe that makes sense like you said. I'd love to see what 6" barrel 10MM their testing out of
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2024-30-07
It’s crazy that nothing even came close to its marketed speed. Wonder what the test barrel length was.
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2024-30-07
Im guessing most of them use a 6 inch test barrel like S&B did, I got that data from their specs PDF: [https://www.sellierbellot.us/products/pistol-and-revolver-ammunition/pistol-and-revolver-cartridges/detail/485/](https://www.sellierbellot.us/products/pistol-and-revolver-ammunition/pistol-and-revolver-cartridges/de...
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2024-30-07
Buffalo Bore unlike most tells you the exact gun they used for testing the load and usually gives you several models and chronograph data. For a Glock 20 with a 4.6" barrel they say their chronograph data with the gun they used averaged 1140 FPS.. They got 1200FPS out of a Para Ordnance 1911 with an Aftermarket Barr...
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2024-30-07
I do like that they show real data. Part of me wonders if some of the velocity loss is from the Gen 5 Glock marksman barrel, it has more aggressive rifling: GLOCK Marksman Barrel (GMB) features a more aggressive polygonal rifling with a target-style crown and tighter chamber specs, which delivers improved accuracy. ...
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2024-30-07
I have a Glock 20 gen 5 mos and I don’t have any issues shooting multiple different brands of ammunition out of it. I also have a Glock 40 MOS and a Glock 29 GEN five as well. But I need to look into getting a chronograph and do some of my own testing as well .
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2024-01-08
I have a Glock 20 gen 5 mos and I don’t have any issues shooting multiple different brands of ammunition out of it. I also have a Glock 40 MOS and a Glock 29 GEN five as well. But I need to look into getting a chronograph and do some of my own testing as well .
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2024-01-08
The stock recoil spring runs 100%, so it’s not that there were issues. Just that no ammo was actually reaching its published velocity, in some cases it was egregious.
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2024-01-08
Well from shooting 10 mm .. a lot of commercially available ammunition is loaded on the light side of things .. I would stick with Buffalo double tap under Wood .. but I wonder how they are coming up with their numbers and you not being able to reach the fps as advertised. I wonder if they’re using the stock Glock barr...
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2024-01-08
great info thanks! look into the sig v crown too, think its been running box speed or higher lately on yt test vids. Also add hsm bear loads next test day, its like 1040 fps and has killed big brown bears from the g20. All these would be fine as long as no ftf’s
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2024-01-08
Got a x300 turbo on the way, need to settle on a dot. I like the Steiner minus battery life, acro seems to have some reliability issues but is Aimpoint and they handle them, acro seems very large. It’s lame I know, but my biggest complaint about rcr is no fde (forward sensor for light and no circle dot as well, but non...
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2024-30-07
What about micro footprint enclosed emitters? Such as the holosun eps/eps carry, or the holosun scs 320(closed emitter unlike the scs m&p and mos)
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2024-30-07
MPS if you don't care about battery life or features RCR if money is no issue Also look into the Lead & Steel PB-3. Uses the Acro footprint and is pretty cheap comparatively
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Had some flickering issues w/ holosun on 9mm. Small sample size, I have 5 holosuns. One had an issue, others have been perfect. My real use guns get great optics, especially my beat the shit out of it woods 10mm
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2024-30-07
That’s the two I’m most torn between… sounds like objectively the rcr is the better optic tho
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