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just walk over there and suplex him every time he makes a shit call | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Yeah the Agassi approach to facing known cheaters is to call a clearly in ball "out" after the first time they hook you, and shoot them a mean look to let them know you're onto them. It's worked for me in the past with cheaters - may not get every call after but you get them at least thinking twice about it, and you fe... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
If someone is a known, blatant cheater, I would refuse to play them, league or no league. I am not getting into arguments and going to the other side of the court and checking ball marks in rec tennis. No way. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
I usually just let the opponent make whatever call they want. If they are making bad calls it means they are getting desperate (or maybe even started the match in desperation mode?). It's a compliment to your skill that they think they need to make bad calls to beat you.
On my side of the net, if I make a close call, ... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
If he makes multiple bad calls, then when his are close….”OUT!!” 🤣😂 | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
My mindset is usually that I should not depend on 1 or 2 bad calls to win or lose a match.
If I see a ball in because of my position, I just demand to see the mark. But if it's a ball where I don't have visibility, then I asume he is right and Move on | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
If he makes one astoundingly bad call get a line ref/ball marks. If he makes three questionable calls, get a line ref/ball marks. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
In clay court countries calling lines is not like It is on hard courts. If you hit a ball that's called out the other player has to mark with the racket (draw a line or semicircle) and show the ball mark (pique) if you question the call. It's also customary for the player (you) to ask if you can go to the other side a... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Yes it is obviously bad etiquette, stupid question. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Love it. I played a ton of clay in the US, and clay court etiquette simply does not exist if you’re playing other Americans. They have no idea. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
you can argue if you want, go up to the net and geture and whatever, but you cant cross the net to inspect a mark, that is against the rules. if you see the mark and its in then make a scene or whatever, but my personal philosophy is to get over it as quickly as possible | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Have you previously played him? If you have and he cheated before, I agree with the poster that says to refuse to play him. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Just play | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
It would be totally out of line to go to their side of the court to check ball mark. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
If they are consistently cheating then i am simply not giving them the lines on my side. I don’t like blatant hooking myself but if all my shots have to be well inside the lines to count same for them. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Each player must make increasingly egregious bad calls until the match is unplayable. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
This is the solution. People hate shit on their foot too. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
I was in a situation somewhat similar.
The guy was notorious for showing up very late (like over an hour) and sometimes not showing at all, with all sorts of elaborate excuses to avoid his opponent requesting a walkover.
When i got drawn with him I just contacted the league, explained the situation and said i wouldn... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
this is the answer. Just simply not worth it. We aren't playing for a gold medal or anything | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Nah call one of his shots in the middle of the court out. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
As soon as he makes a bad call instantly make a bad call yourself and look over and give em a smirk | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
lol last time this happened in a league match I saw the guy stand in the serve box, refused to switch, and called every serve out soon as it landed. Eventually they had to end the match and we got the walkover lol | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Make it like baseball, rush the mound (net) and throw hands | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
From USTA rules
21. Making calls on clay courts. If any part of a ball mark touches a line on a clay court, the ball shall be called good. If only part of the mark on a court can be seen, this means that the missing part is on a line or tape. A player should take a careful second look at any point-ending placement tha... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
It’s important you don’t make bad calls OP and stay on your side of the net as both are part of the rules of tennis.
If you’re concerned about the opposition’s line calling, raise it with them before the match and the tournament referee. Deal with it constructively outside of the higher emotional state of a match. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
There’s a guy in my club who I just find a substitute anytime I’m assigned to or against him.
He makes 6-7 terrible calls every match. Makes a big show of calling balls in that are a foot in as if it’s a favor to you, and claims you nicked the ball w your racquet if you ever miss a volley entirely. It’s embarrassing ... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
I’d say generally speaking saying are you sure on a hard court is almost always pointless but it’s usually ok to check clay marks as long as it’s actually close ofc | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
He’ll catch on after the fifth or sixth time | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
stack of hand-me-down phones duct taped to the fence for makeshift Hawkeye review system then youtube hall of shame video of this clown permanently, call it tough love | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Is this USTA? I would be careful about crossing over to their side of the net. Technically, if you cross their side to check a mark, you concede the point and the next point.
Just play. If this person is as bad as they sound, then everyone is aware. Tennis is about fun. Have fun. You aren't winning money or ranking po... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Two things help here, 1) "do you mind if I record the match? It's for my own improvement." People don't like to cheat in front of a camera. Just use your phone to record the whole thing. 2) if it's really egregious, have a friend come and watch and if necessary, take some video to later submit to the league to support... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Rules do not equal etiquette | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
You are entitled to ask to see the mark for sure. I’ve played “known cheaters” before. My strategy changed to play with big margins and aim at the person. Ball hits the player, it can’t be called out. Call that out b***h. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Correct. Beat them at their own game. Never say 'Are you sure?'. If they have called it, they have made the decision. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Every sectionals season, my 4.5 teams comes across this 4.5 player who makes the worst line calls and she also will change the score in the middle of games, so you end up questioning yourself. It’s wild to watch.
Once she makes her first bad call or score calling, our teammate calls a line judge and eventually, there... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
I just play by the rules, go home have a good nights sleep and look myself in the mirror the next day without any problem. Its just a game and its not how I make my living, no does my self-esteem hinge on it. I feel pity for those that can't help themselves in that way, and they along with everyone else know what they ... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
The right move in a league match is after a bad call to politely stop play and request a 3rd party line judge or even one of their teammates if they aren't a cheat. That way you don't have to compromise your own calls. I've only had to do this once before, but it worked well. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
i guess a punt kick works too | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Ask your captain or someone unbiased to watch. Report him | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
you can't go over to his side of the court | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
well if going over to his side happens to be the issue - just DX chop at him after every won point and save the trips to suplex city for the changeovers | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Absolutely this
I've never played against an actual cheater but I'd ensure the match is unplayable | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Call your lines tight. Get a line judge if an issue. If you are getting your ass beat or cleaning his clock it won’t really matter, a few close calls. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
In our league, you can ask for people to come and call lines at any point in the match. Tell your captain you're gonna ask for their help.
https://preview.redd.it/ebjc3mlam7bd1.png?width=1938&format=png&auto=webp&s=47edd8678417f9a211031c317cfced699923858d | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
That's an excerpt from [https://www.usta.com/content/dam/usta/2024-pdfs/friend-at-court.pdf](https://www.usta.com/content/dam/usta/2024-pdfs/friend-at-court.pdf)
PART 2—THE CODE THE PLAYERS’ GUIDE TO FAIR PLAY AND THE UNWRITTEN RULES OF TENNIS
That is their version of etiquette.
And this snippet from the top
>Furth... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Asking to see the mark is standard procedure. First close call you ask if they're sure, second and third ask to see the mark, four or more get an umpire involved. Never ever cross the net without explicit permission and even then it's not advised | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Request a judge to oversee match - should assign a member from each team to decide questionable calls | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
My best play is to put a camera up to catch the action. Just so "I can review it later to improve my game". This puts the worst cheaters on alert that their shenanigans won't go unnoticed.
For really bad cheats I take both my GoPro and cell phone mount and put a camera on both back fences. I make a show of it, but don... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I never ask to see the mark and I don't care if the other guy cheats because I play to enjoy the sport and I try to win regardless of that nonsense.
But, if you are annoyed by that style, than sure you can ask to see the marks or you can ask someone to referee. This way you make it harder for the opponent to show diff... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Can you get an independent to watch the lines? | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Yeah you let it go and lose.... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Please ask for video recording, I want to see this! 😅 | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
No, I don't think it is bad etiquette to do that if you know the person cheats on purpose.
I would probably just walk off the court and forfeit. Not gonna waste my time playing cheaters | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Cheat even harder and Tonya Harding his kneecap. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Play every out ball of his, beat him and tell him you don’t have to cheat to win. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Call everything that's even remotely close to the line on your side of the court as out.
Fight fire with fire. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I wouldn’t say it’s bad etiquette to see the close calls, it’s beyond bad etiquette to cheat in the first instance.
Something to bear in mind is that… notorious cheat or not, if something is close then your opponent might simply have got it wrong, or even right but I think you’re within your right to check, it’s a co... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
I'm honestly pretty sure I have never lost a match due to bad calls alone. I think the most bad calls I have been subjected to in a single match have been like 3 or 4, max - certainly not enough bad calls to be the difference-maker in most matches. I have, on the other hand, lost matches due to poor mental discipline.... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
I've had someone call a serve out because they could reach it. I just told them I'm going to call the balls out that they call out so we can play on an even playing field. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-11-07 |
Hello, I am looking for an arm friendly racket option. I was using Yonex Vcore Pro 100L (280 gr). With poly it caused really bad arm pain so I switched to multi. I rarely get pain now but after a long match I might feel some soreness/pain near elbow but it usually fades the next day. Also I am living in a country where... | r/10s | post | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Check out the Prince phantom line - I play with the 100x 305 which is an extremely comfortable 100sq in frame. The new version just came out so you can get the 2020 version on sale from Tennis Warehouse, and overall Prince's racquets are less expensive than the big name brands. There is a 290g version if you are used t... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Look into pro kennex rackets they are arm friendly and have sand in the hoop for tennis elbow people's | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Does anyone here know how much weight I should add to a Percept 97. I’m in between just adding 7 grams distributed at 3 and 9 or 14 grams at 3&9. Is my raquet at 336 grams fully gripped and strung way too light to be 9 utr? How many grams is alcaraz raquet gripped and strung?
Update: adding 7 grams to the percept 97 ... | r/10s | post | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
There is no such thing as how much weight you should add unless you know your current and target specs. Then you can use this [TWU ](https://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/customization.php)tool to help customize your racquet to reach your specs.
You can find alcaraz specs [here](https://tennisnerd.net/gear/... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
do it if you feel like youre missing something specific for your racket. start small like 3 grams and see if you like it, then build from there. starting off adding 14g is just ridiculous. no its not too light. sinner's racket is 328g strung | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Adding weight is to your personal preference… oddly enough Alcaraz is one of the few pros who doesn’t add weight. It’s pretty much a stock aero vs. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
> Is my raquet at 336 grams fully gripped and strung way too light to be 9 utr?
bro what does this mean? there is no such thing as too light for a certain rating? why do you think you need it? i would start with 2 grams, not 7. but only if you really think you need it for either more power or stability. 336g sounds fi... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
do you play with multiple racquets? If so, how many? | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
I added 8 grams at 3 and 9 on my ezone 98. Tried adding more at 12 but the balance went for a toss | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I have never played on a grass court and would love to get the experience. Is there anywhere in the US that has grass courts that are open to the public? Even if I have to pay a lot of money to access the court, I don’t care. I just the experience of playing on that surface. I understand how expensive it is to maintain... | r/10s | post | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
I would not trust the American general public with a grass court | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Here’s an article: https://www.forbes.com/2009/06/24/tennis-grass-courts-lifestyle-sports-tennis-grass.html | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Not public, but since it's a rare thing I figured I would pass this along:
[https://www.germantowncricket.org/](https://www.germantowncricket.org/)
I play in a USTA league and they have matches there, although I've never played on these courts. Friends say they're pretty awesome. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Tennis Hall of Fame in Newport RI. It ain't cheap though | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
They have USTA tournaments there too. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Sand Valley in Nekoosa, WI has 15 courts and is the largest public grass tennis court facility in the US. It also has a borderline top 100 golf course in the country. Worth a trip, for sure! They are immaculate. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
How much are court fees? | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Thanks! I will look them up! | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
There is a club in Wisconsin that apparently has decent ones you can pay to play on. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
The JW Marriott in Palm Desert, CA has 2 grass courts (and clay courts too!) open to hotel guests (subject to reservation) | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
Baker City OR of all places 🤷🏼♂️ | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-07-07 |
People already bring dogs onto hard courts. Grass would be a nightmare. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I went to a Nike Camp in Rhode Island—at a private club—and was grass courts. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I played here years ago, but didn’t have to be a guest. It was pretty expensive compared to normal court rentals, but not too crazy as a 1 time experience.
This court had been used as a Wimbledon set for movies, and the pro told me it plays similar to old Wimbledon grass. 10/10 would recommend if you’re in the area. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Iowa, of course...
https://g.co/kgs/wTDL6nt | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
$250 an hour | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Jesus Christ no thanks | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
They’re closed this season for some reason :/ | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Boom next vacation spot | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
May have to stop by in September | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I have access to grass courts. DM me if you want more info. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
keep your eye on the weather charts, it gets hot AF! | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
There are some at Tower Grove Park in St. Louis. https://www.towergrovepark.org/tennisandpickleball | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Sounds non-public, perhaps even private | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I played at the courts at the Trump resort in sunny isles before I even had a clue how to play tennis. I swear that they were grass courts and some of the pictures I can find online seem to be grass but I can’t say for sure. This was probably 3 years ago and may be different now. Could be worth looking into if you’re a... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
If you are in the Pacific Northwest there are some on Vancouver Island in Canada and you get an extremely favourable exchange rate. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Yeah they also occasionally have events open to the public. I've played there twice and it was really fun. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I am opposed to the dress code so that's a no-go for me. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
If you go to their Juneteenth event they waive the all white dress code. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Yikes. You have to be kidding me. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
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