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looks eastern or maybe right in between the eastern and SW bevels | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
😳😬😕 shut the front door! Like for real for real. I’ve always thought Eastern to be strictly a default OHBH grip.
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https://preview.redd.it/j20eg3agi8bd1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5aa61197a94469beed05b1132aa05240abb32e2 | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
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Eastern forehand and eastern backhand are different grips. Graff looks like an eastern forehand grip, knuckle on bevel 3. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Yeah, I think I took Martina too literally when she harped on the different grips and how she only used eastern for her backhand. And it like stuck in my brain.
That pic of Graf just looks so semi-western to me 🤦🏼♀️
2 for 2 saying Eastern so far. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Truly incredible that this stemmed from someone not understanding that the eastern backhand grip and the eastern forehand grip are different grips. Who named these things? Our discussions on grips are built on bafflingly shaky foundations when you zoom out.
Anyway, that's an eastern forehand grip. Be nice to your mom... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Ty😊
I always am. She’s the best❣️❣️❣️
Speaking of shaky foundations… I’m two handed on both sides, so maybe I shouldn’t have opened this can of worms with my mom in the 1st place.
Fax on the naming of the grips, it’s jokes.
Crow is so chewy 😕 | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
This looks like the grip I use on my forehand. I’m going to say eastern along with everyone else. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Start apologizing dude | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Continental is what I see. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Daayyyhhham. Another nail in my coffin 🤭 | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
But there’s always hope…. 😆 | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Ohhhhh myyyyy… Player conti has entered the game 🤔 | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
would you like your sun visor grilled or deep fried? | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
y'all wrong. that's a tourna grip | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
🫤😩 but I’m only down a set and 0-5 😝 | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼 | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
This grip, from this point of view, looks almost continental to me... That being said, Steffi Graf is clearly using an eastern grip. Federer is also using an eastern grip, but more to the semi-western's side. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Continental is when you lay the racquet face flat down on the court and pick it up hammer style. Eastern is picking it up off the court with racquet down on the court edge down. Thats why I thought her grip was continental to SW. Variation to what she was wanting to do with the ball. My mom said Steffi is always easter... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
The picking it up is one of the "easiest" way to tell a continental grip or a eastern grip for sure. But I prefer the bevel thing. Like, base of index finger on bevel 2 means continental's grip and bevel 3 means eastern forehands grip, and... voilà. Done. No need to make a big deal about it.
When you look at the pic o... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Well said!!!! Agreed. This is why I come here. I certainly do not know everything to perfection and love hearing other views. I eat crow on this one. My mom straight up talking shit and gloating when we hit today. She allowed me to forego eating a sun visor however 😬🤣🤭
Very generous of her 😝 | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I’m looking to get back into tennis after not playing or doing any hitting even for over a decade. I’m 26 and I took lessons, did camps and stuff from age 6 to 12. My dad loves tennis, he got me into it and my gf played club tennis in college at a relatively high level for club. My issue is around age 12 the recession ... | r/10s | post | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Just give it some time a few yrs of hitting and you will be back better, just adjust to lighter setup and propet technique so you dont get injured again | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
The goal is to play at a volume (time spent playing), intensity (pace of play), and frequency (# of sessions played per week) that don't aggravate knee pain, but that keep you nice and active. You may have to start slower, shorter and less-frequent than you would like, letting some balls go that you would rather chase ... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
[https://healthobsessed.medium.com/top-5-best-tennis-rackets-on-the-market-73c18b35cffd](https://healthobsessed.medium.com/top-5-best-tennis-rackets-on-the-market-73c18b35cffd) check out this; I think the head ti.s6 would be good? | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Which one's for you for hard & shell courts | r/10s | post | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
As much as I wanna say nike, i heard better reviews for the asics. I use basketball shoes on hard courts myself for the extra balance | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I hate to say this but Nike has more hit product design than ASICS.
But then again ASICS isn't a popular sneaker brand so there is differentiation. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I have tried only the vapor but both should be good overall | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I've had all of these except the GPs and loved all of them. I've got the Vapor's and the Resolution 9s on rotation now and I can't say I feel a huge difference between them so I would just go for whichever is cheaper/looks nicer. The Ubersonics were great and feel really fast but I only got a couple of months out of th... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
If you have knee issues, GP Challenge is the only one that works for me, although the toe can be a bit narrow. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
For me or for you? | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Currently doing research for a forehand groundstroke as mine needs much improvement. I noticed in this popular YouTube video, the person has their wrist bent super back. You can see that his arm is much closer to the ball than his wrist or racquet is.
However, the general rule I see online is to keep your wrist prett... | r/10s | post | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Tennis is swinging from the ground via your legs to your hips to your core to your shoulders with your arm and wrist going along for the ride. What you're seeing there is wrist lag. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
If you frame-by-frame said video, you will see that the wrist is neutral at contact point. The angle you see in this screenshot is the result of two things
1. Grip selection (I am guessing the player here uses semi western grip, like Djokovic). The grip you choose to use dictate how fare in front of your body the "na... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Makes so much more sense! Thanks for such a detailed explanation. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
You're seeing "racquet lag" due to him keeping his wrist and grip loose and relaxed. He's basically a catapult ready to unleash all that kinetic energy into the ball upon contact. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
He is speaking the truth | r/10s | post | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Most people usually just watch the best guys play and do not know how hard the sport is | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Nole is right to every point | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I read his full statement yesterday and I was so happy to see him voice concerns over this problem. Tennis has a foundation at the club level. That’s where future talent comes from. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I'm american and we've been so busy worrying about pickleball at a public administrative level, that I didn't even realize this new "padel" sport was basically doing the same thing on a much larger scale across all of europe. I feel for you bros | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
It's becoming popular but it's not really converting many Tennis players also it's not taking over courts like in US. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Converting tennis players isn't the risk; the risk is that young folk will choose it over tennis, which means the tennis population will die off. If it's becoming popular, this is already happening.. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Oh ye. Uff that's going to be very hard to compete with. Tennis is still a very elite sport in terms of accessibility when compared to other sports. It's kinda why Table Tennis is so massively popular in Europe you can have a large club in relatively small space and it's much much cheaper to rent out a school sports ha... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Wow so brave | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
It’s very brave, not to mention a cool and good look for the sport of tennis, for you to tell people that a thing they like is stupid | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
shaming works, call it 'tough love' | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
The USTA seems to be working to bring in new players and keep them playing with the "35 million by 2035" project. I don't know how effective it will be, but it brought me to tennis, so there's that. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
You’re probably talking about shaming pickleball players because you’re also a brave advocate for the sport of tennis, but I’m appreciating the irony of your comment given that the person I originally replied to just deleted his comments 😂 | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
As someone who grew up extremely poor, tennis was always incredibly gatekeepy for me. Not only in terms of costs, but also community.
Ultimately, pickleball is solving the problem of the access and skill curve issues that tennis presents.
It’s incredibly hard to reinforce habits when the up-front cost of pickleball ... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Yeah. Alot of tennis players shit talk pickleball about how unathletic or graceless it is.
But I have to say most “tennis” I see looks just as bad.. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
At least in my rural area only tennis clubs exist (2-4 courts in every village/town basically
In the nearby city (Vienna ) it's indeed that padel becomes more common , also because a court takes less space.
But have the feeling tennis is still the more prominent sport | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
An interesting development in Scandinavia is that padel is more expensive than tennis. Courts are up till 40-50 euro for an hour meaning, you easily spend 150-200 euro per months on court rental only if you play two times per week. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
There’s waiting lists all over the place for tennis clubs in Amsterdam. If anything they need to build more tennis courts to meet demand | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Taking indoor courts mostly in Europe which are getting converted | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
In Colombia padel is more expensive too, but it's much more readily available.
After splitting costs between 4 an hour of padel goes for around $10 each. I can rent a public tennis court for $5-6 an hour total. The thing is, there aren't many public courts and for the private ones you have to join a club which is a h... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
It's interesting because in my area the problem is the opposite - pickleball is so popular that it's basically inaccessible to new players.
My high school doubles partner was taking pickleball pretty seriously for a while and I wanted to try it out, but it was almost impossible. There are TONS of local courts but the... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I disagree with your sentiment, lost 10ish courts to Padel in my local area. Combine it with a few courts being lost to real estate development and not a lot of new courts popping up...it's an issue.
It's a few clubs that converted 1-2 courts, one that converted 4 & another one that no longer offers tennis. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I was practicing my serve at a local outdoor public tennis court. I’d already gone through a few hoppers of serves and then I noticed a bunch of pickle ballers that were showing up. I could tell that they were eye-ing my court. I happily collected my balls and gave them my court. I’m pretty sure I almost ruined their ... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
The people running USTA in my district are doing a terrible job with marketing and communication. If growing tennis is a priority of USTA as a whole, this district isn't aligned with that mission. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
They converted clay courts to Padel courts kinda seems it's easier to just build a new separate court. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Doubt many care about indoor hard courts in Europe tho. We have two in our city and they are mostly empty because 11/10 people prefer clay. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Hmm that sounds like the disadvantages of excess demand, which requires supply to balance (I.e., build more pickleball courts)
But in a way, it should be that the community popularity growth drives supply of courts.
Tennis seems the opposite. Demand to play and therefore popularity is shrinking, causing a fear of the... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
No land for that | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
should have kept serving | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I was pretty much finished. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
So they dug up a clay court, resurfaced the foundation and drainage and build a Padel courts on top of it? | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
True, but that doesn’t stop padel taking over. Buitenveldert just got bought by de padellers to change the indoor courts to padel ones. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
The little bit I've seen about padel here in the US, it's being marketed as an affluent activity in places like Miami and Los Angeles. Articles about former NBA players and Hollywood stars playing it in their free time. Mainstream luxury brands like Prada and Versace have made padel-adjacent products.
I'm sure this ... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Yes...this is a weird argument to be having | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Padel is way cooler than pickleball. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
In my local area in the UK my club has given up 3 grass courts to build padel courts and is planning to sacrifice a couple more for Padel courts with a roof.
Another sports centre has given up an acrylic outdoor tennis court as well as some surrounding spaces to fit 3 Padel courts.
All this despite the fact that th... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I bet they prefer indoor when it’s raining all day long in winter and your clay courts are underwater | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
>It’s incredibly hard to reinforce habits when the up-front cost of pickleball in terms of time investment + money is far lower than that of tennis.
Tennis has, IMHO, two problems. One, it's a demanding sport in a world where opportunities are endless and quick fixes rule.
Two, it is a bit gatekeepy, but not for mal... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I’m in NYC. The USTA is headquartered 20 miles north in a nondescript office park. Its Major is played in my city and is the site of one of the 3 national training centers.
Ask me how many times I’ve seen any sort of USTA outreach happening in our public tennis courts? Or on weekends when those who are interested in ... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Why would they prefer hard court surface in the winter or when its raining when you can play year around on clay surface regardless if it's raining, thunderstorm, snowfall etc.. I don't understand what you mean that clay courts are underwater during winter ?
99% of courts in Europe are clay courts and most are open ye... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I live in Amsterdam and our courts regular go underwater in winter and it just rains constantly. Maybe in Spain it’s fine | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Don't they put up a balloon? I'm far from Spain but balloons are pretty standard. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
Beginner tennis of course is going to look very uncoordinated. However, pickleball pro players look more like your rec players. The discrepancy between a pro tennis player and a rec player is waaaaay larger than that in pickleball.
Also, I would argue that even 3.0 matches are entertaining to watch. And a 3.0 watchin... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I don't think the court size is very relevant, it's just that clubs want in on it. The investment to even convert a tennis court is not nothing so they need to fill those courts regardless. In Sweden and Finland at least a number of padel centres have already gone bankrupt because no-one was surprised that the demand d... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
This rant doesn't make sense. You can buy a net for $50 and play in a parking lot or your driveway. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I designed an app to help club level tennis players but it is so hard to gain any traction :( | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
My city is lucky for tennis rec playing. The public middle and high school courts are still open with many courts at multiple parts of town. While there is sometimes pickleball on the courts, it's not a permanent conversion of the courts and they , the pickleball groups, often use removable tape or removable marker lin... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-08-07 |
I dont know how good a tennis player you are but if you cant tell the difference between real 3.0 and real 4.5 pickleball players then you really arent paying attention. Its pretty stark. Most 3.0s in PB will never get past 3.5 and I could almost say no 4.5 was ever really a 3.0..
I was a 5.0 in tennis years ago and ... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
I'm wondering if it can be a gateway sport for tennis. People try pickleball and enjoy it and maybe consider tennis after | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
As someone who has just started playing Tennis recently, it is incredibly difficult to get started on your own, and there is a real demographics issue. I took a program in a few different clubs near me before committing to one but all of them faced the same issue. There are barely any "casual" 20-40 year olds playing t... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
It’s primarlily the economics. No new tennis clubs are being built because the cost of construction and upkeep far outpace the revenue you can generate with tennis. I can’t imagine you could get a loan to build a tennis club today, period.
With other racquet sports you can make twice the money with half the space.
... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
What is the app | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Padel is going to crush tennis in the US within 10 years. Just brace for it. There are now more padel players than tennis players in Spain. I've never played pickleball, so I have no opinion there. While tennis singles will always be the most physically exhausting racquet sport, padel (which is all doubles) is far ... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
The UK is massively under-invested in padel. It's not going to crash... it's going to continue to grow. The UK is just way behind Europe where padel is concerned and is playing catch-up. And it will take many years. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
The problem with tennis is very fundamental: it's too difficult to get started at any decent level. Teaching pros like to say, "it takes 3 years of steady play to be bad at tennis." The racquet is long, the court is large and the ball is heavy. So, it takes a long time for beginners to get competent. Now look at pi... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
I say the same thing about squash. Even just the logistics of tennis are obnoxious especially when you suck early. You’re chasing balls more than playing. You need somebody solid to play with to get better but nobody wants to do that shit. It’s really easy to annoy people on the courts beside you when you’re trash. Ten... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
It’s true that tennis is much harder to learn, even just to achieve the most basic level, but there are still plenty of things that can be done to keep interest.
I don’t think that difficulty needs to be an issue. For example, rock climbing has grown a lot in the United States, even though it is immensely hard.
Part... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Your insecurities are showing | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
It's called ladderupsports.com | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
This sentiment is the problem club tennis has.
You don’t need to be good to play. You don’t need to be able to rally to play. All you need to play is the ability to get the ball over the net and all you need for a fun game is someone of similar level.
Instead of a healthy beginner ecosystem, you have people taking ... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
A lot of people in the thread are missing a very important advantage that tennis has over padel and pickleball and even squash: Tennis is a lot more watchable. There is no way that padel or pickleball or squash will make it as big on TV as tennis is. Tennis has a larger court, the ball is always easily visible, it has ... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Padel is just as hard and challenging as tennis... at the higher levels. The only difference is that it doesn't take as long to get merely competent at padel.
There will always be folks who want to learn tennis. But if Europe is any indication... padel is going to suck up a lot of would-be beginners over the next ... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Still, what really matters is, will people want to watch padel on TV instead of tennis? I don't think so. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
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