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Watch frame by frame. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Wow, you are 100% correct. I’ve had 5 coaches over the last 15 years and have prob served similarly during that time and no one has caught that. GREAT Fkn catch. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Interesting, elbow drops to shoulder height but everything I’ve been taught and have read says to generally keep the elbow higher, not lower. Good insight. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
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even the guys with the high wrists keep their elbow down
https://preview.redd.it/f27rb943ajbd1.png?width=1565&format=png&auto=webp&s=0b178b7e1ddf1238c070cc38348d52871215b90f | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Definitely see what you’re saying now - thank you. Great feedback. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
I am in Shanghai the next couple of weeks visiting my girlfriend. Brought my racket and shoes with me, so I am up for some tennis if there are any fellow tennis players in Shanghai.
I am staying in Changning district close to Jing'an district. Let me know if there is any interest! | r/10s | post | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
I’m quite far for you as I’m in Minhang, but I’m down to play if we can make it happen. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-13-07 |
How is the fit of the Nike Vapor Pro? Im usually a size 9 when it comes to Tennis shoes in Nike(currently using Vapor Pro 11 and Vapor Cage 4. Would you suggest that i stick with my size or should i size up .5 with the Vapor pro? Thanks Guys! | r/10s | post | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
I went down 0.5 from my usual Nike sizing
I found this to be true of all Nike tennis shoes fwiw | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Is your feet narrow or wide? | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Neither | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Im thinking if i should get the us 9.5. The Vapor Pro is kinda hard to find these days. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
My experience would suggest the opposite. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Thanks for your input! | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
True or size up half. definitely not size down at all unless you have narrow feet.. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-21-07 |
ive been trying to pronate more and loosen up the shoulder but its still pretty tight, so any tips on how to improve both? | r/10s | post | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Looks pretty good. You could maybe try a little less tense hitting arm stance. I found somewhat mimicking Djokovic's motion where he really lets that racket dangle loosely and not too high before he starts swinging let's the shoulder/arm swing loose and powerful. Could be worth looking up his slow mo form on YouTube to... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Thanks! Definitely will work on this | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Clean af. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Agreed with this. Its counter intuitive but you will get more pace and use less arm muscles (tire out less quickly) if you let that arm be loose and kind of fling it up to the contact point rather than hulk smash with a tense arm. Nice serve! | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
you can turn your torso 45 more degrees and get twice as much racquethead speed. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Looks pretty nice.
I think you have a slight hitch where the racket nearly stops moving in the trophy position and it could lead to being a little tight. Perhaps try a lower toss so there isn't time for this sort of hiccup in the racket motion. Lots of pros (Sabalenka, Zverev) have had a lot of success with lowering ... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
not bad but dude….. get a continental grip please . it will transform your serve | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
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There is no kick. The ball is bouncing right into opponent's ideal contact height. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Yep, either you’re using dead balls, or there is really not much top spin on the balls. Try to focus on brushing up on the ball, maybe with less power, to see if you can notice a difference. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Any advise on what to change? Getting some kick to the right, but would love to try and get a higher bounce | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
I would go with coaching, no point mincing words here, if you want proper form and feedback you need someone to be there with you breaking it apart.
You can watch videos but if you are like me, you will get lost in the trophy, pronation, rotation, ball toss, clock, angle... You can try to decipher it all or you can ha... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Still waiting for it... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
At the point of contact your racquet motion is flat moving sideways. It should be going up and away. Let the ball drop a bit further but for your contact to be better you should bend your back a little further too. Don’t get injured in the process. Contact a good coach if needed. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
A 3/10. It’s weak, doesn’t have any kick, and it’s not accurate either since you’re missing half of them. If you’re planning on using this as a second serve, you’re going to hit a lot of double faults and opponents are going to eat the serves up that you do get in.
Edit: to end on a positive note, I do think you’ve ki... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Stay sideways, bro | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Hello fellow club mate! As others have stated there’s no kick, good serve though nonetheless. But I’d recommend in person coaching for this as it’s easier to nitpick and get out more from it. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
You’re hitting down at the ball not up. 2/10 not a kick serve. More like a safe first serve when you’re tight af | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
You can generate a lot of kick by having a strong core and contracting to get more energy going to the right. Think of it like the movement of doing a sit-up. You have a good back bend, but not enough movement going to the right, that’s how you get a violent kick. Watch your serve in slow motion, you are moving to the ... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
If you want to kick the ball, simple tips:
- hit the ball from under, the ball needs to start travelling upwards
- take a visual cue that's high, outside the court on your right (far is good too), about 2 meters in front of you.
Now you want the head of your racket to travel as fast as possible towards the visual cue... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
You need a very loose motion and all the fundamentals need to be correct.
Kick serve is the most advanced serve. If you don’t have a good flat serve yet, then don’t even bother. Focus on that first.
This kick serve won’t win you any points. So for matches I would recommend some side spin instead for your second serv... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Not true | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
True | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Not bad. The kick is there, but try tossing in front of yourself. Not a lot! Just enough for you to "kick" into the court. Loosen your wrist a little and you are golden. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Need to hit the ball lower during your upswing. You're hitting at the peak mostly which is great for the usual serves but doesn't generate much topsin. If you try to stay sideways it will help a lot as well.
Disagree with those saying coaching is def needed. Sure its helpful but you already have all the elements down... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Even my slow not really kicking topsin serve wins more points than it should. It's a nice change up in pace and people aren't ready for a bounce at all.
Not really a kick at this stage though. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
You need to hit up and out. You are hitting forward. Need to pronate like crazy. It looked like you sublinated instead of pronating. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
I win points on my kick serve all the time. People have more trouble with it than my flat serve even though I have a good flat serve. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
You should slide forward with your back foot before you’re about to make contact with the ball and also follow through with a forward motion to get my pop | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
You are tossing at 12’oclock. Try tossing more towards 11’oclock but keeping the ball out in front of you. Toss more to the left. It’s extremely difficult to get topspin on the ball tossing to the right of 11. Also coaching! Like everyone else in this thread has said. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Not much kick. A little bit on the 3rd ball. But you have enough arm speed to hit a big one.
Slightly further behind toss, lower contact point and a more up/out swing path. Exaggerate the finish.
Look up the “dirty diaper” kick serve on YT. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
you're not balanced on any of the serves. see if you can even hit a serve if you keep your left foot in the same spot. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Kick serves are very difficult to do properly. As mentioned before a good coach can break down your mechanics and get you there. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
You need to activate your core more to bring your upper body forward as you swing to generate more action on the ball. You’ve been taught to toss the ball to the 11 o’clock position but you end up leaning your body to the left to reach for it and only using your arm to try and generate spin.
See screenshot of body pos... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
1/10 just meatballs.
Your technique is poor. Work with a coach. The changes can be more subtle than can be explained with text. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Kick serve is literally the first serve motion kids are taught.
Focus should always be on getting it in deep in the box. 90mph deep is better than 115 5 ft short. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Your comment provides literally zero insight for corrective actions. It's just a bunch of words that don't mean anything in themselves. Coaching is about taking words to program the body into motion. It's not easy, and you aren't good at it.
Being a good player is not the same as being a good coach. He should work wi... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
More wrist pronation/flick at and offer impact IMO. As other said, no kick, and it’s in the wheelhouse for the opponent most of the time, most people 3.5-4.0 or better would just fun around it to their best stroke and pound it. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
> Kick serve is literally the first serve motion kids are taught.
No way. Kick serve is much harder than flat or slice serve. Kids are typically taught flat first, although IMO slice was much easier to learn for me. Probably because as an adult, you can swing faster and a heavy slice will actually make it across the n... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
He’s opening up way too much for a kick. His left shoulder should be aiming at the target if he really brushed up the left side of the ball | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
My rating: not bad.
My tip: Allow your hitting shoulder to follow through towards your target.
My analysis: It seems you are stagnating the kinetic chain at the shoulder and it's quite awkward for you as you fall backwards etc. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
That’s not my point?
You said you have a good flat serve.
I’m saying if you don’t have a good flat serve, don’t bother trying to learn a kick serve yet. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
There’s lots of coaches teaching kids who don’t know what they’re doing. Kick serve is the more advanced serve. Unless you want to hit it straight into someone’s contact zone like OP. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
I'm not sure why you're getting down voted. You're not wrong here. I'm not sure what level OP is playing but if he's not playing people that can easily attack serves, this may be good for starting a point at neutral, which is truly what a 2nd serve should be. It's a very safe serve. But it's not going to get anyone off... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
I agree with the comments about the toss and where you’re making contact. I’d also add that your body is going to the left when it should be going slightly forward. Look at where your left foot lands after you make contact. It should be forward from where you initially stood not to the left. I think tossing further rig... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Looks like you have too much forward action (not enough up and sideways) when you’re actually making contact. Really exaggerate the wrist at contact into more of an up and around motion like you’re trying to cup the ball. Eventually you can add more forward motion to it, but this is just coming off as a top spin serve…... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
I agree there's a lot of coaches who have no clue, but I grew up around lots of pros and the coaches of pros. This is the first thing taught.
Kids naturally figure out the lower body after being shown the correct release. You can go both ways with a kick release. To flat, or to safe spin.
Why is it first? Kids are sh... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Fair enough for a well coached kid who doesn’t have the height, but Im still convinced it’s not a good serve to learn first for a (mostly) self-coached adult | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
you aren’t balanced at all. your left foot keeps scooting backwards. you gotta throw in front a bit more | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
5.622/81.76 - there's no kick | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
The ball should be straight above your head to achieve good topspin. Now, the trick is that you should not toss the ball above your head, you toss it a bit in front, then push your hips in and get your head under the ball as you jump. You need the forward body movement to generate more pace on the ball.
If you watch ... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
If you played baseball growing up the kick serve is like throwing a curve ball, same/similar arm and hand motion. In tennis you have the racquet attached of course but it's an extension of the arm/hand. The use of the fingers is obviously different since you have to hold the racquet.
It helped me tremendously having... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Self-coaching is just a disaster as it is. I would disagree a bit because someone older even with good coaching will never truly get the motion. Just hitting spinners in from the back scratch would be my default for a beginner. New players don't understand how much mistake room they have above the net.
A hard flat ser... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
10/10 for the audio | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-10-07 |
Where is the kick?
1/10 | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-10-07 |
1/10 | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-10-07 |
I'm not going to comment on technique, but I might have something to add.
The ball (trajectory etc) doesn't look like a kick and will be very easy to read even if it has some topspin. I'm a short dude and when I, or my opponent, hit a good kick serve it looks like the ball starts by going _upwards_. The ball clears t... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-10-07 |
I learned the kick serve first. I wanted a reliable second serve before learning to hit a fast flat serve. Took me two years to get it right. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-10-07 |
Great tip, sir! | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-10-07 |
Thanks all for the tips and feedback. Booked a couple of coaching sessions on this, so hopefully can post a real kick serve here at some point:) | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-10-07 |
This - the toss has to be further back. Force yourself to hit up through the ball. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-11-07 |
I have my first competitive(ish) singles match this evening. It will be indoor hardcourt against a fast serving, decent player.
How do you prepare on the day of a match? Should I be eating a lot of carb-heavy foods for energy, should I be avoiding eating too much food so I'm light on the court? Should I sleep before th... | r/10s | post | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Don’t overthink | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Make sure you listen to Roy Jones Jr. - Can’t be touched in the ride over before your match, I do this and only lose half the time | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Don’t overthink! Accept that you’ll probably get nerves, accept that you might double fault a lot, accept that you might play below what you feel like your real level is.
Enjoy the moment, be present, take your chances. Move your feet. Hit through the ball. Play fair.
Eat a regular metal 1,5-2hrs before you play. Br... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Great song | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
You are not running a marathon, you dont need to carb load. Do what you are comfortable with, personally I never eat 4 or 5 hours before a match as I dont like feeling full.
Aside from that it’s a rec tennis match, don’t overthink it, just go and play. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Listen to the theme from Rocky on your way in. Try to get laid the morning of the match, and keep your day drinking to a minimum. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Bring two new strung sticks a towel and a tennis ball can for a water bottle. Leave everything else at home. You are already overthinking this. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Bring water, eat 4 hrs before. Snacks during.
Big serving means that if you get high % on your return they will try to serve bigger and do faults often, get frustrated. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Also switch to a Pro Staff 97 right before the match. Never played with it before? Even better. | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Just chill, we’re not going to be disappointed if you lose. Try your best, have fun, and good luck! | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
Do a 10 minute sports meditation (can find on YouTube). The relaxed breathing calms you down and gets you in the right headspace. Make sure you've loosened up and stretched beforehand. Eat at least 2 hours before so you don't feel gross and full.
Against a fast serve, stand a little farther back, split step as he's h... | r/10s | comment | r/10s | 2024-09-07 |
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